Speaker 1: Last week, with little to no coverage from mainstream media,
Speaker 1: was an important ruling that came out of a federal
Speaker 1: court in New York by a George H. W. Bush
Speaker 1: appointed judge named Loretta Presca. Judge Presca entering an order
Speaker 1: that states that grand jury materials that were previously sealed
Speaker 1: by another federal judge in the lawsuit that was for
Speaker 1: defamation that was brought by the late Virginia Geoffrey against
Speaker 1: Glen Maxwell, well, those grand jury materials can be unsealed.
Speaker 1: Those materials were provided two federal prosecutors that were seeking
Speaker 1: the indictment against Jeffrey Epstein. They were grand jury materials.
Speaker 1: They were a part of that case that was built
Speaker 1: against Jeffrey Epstein, and they have been under seal since then.
Speaker 1: And then you have to think about the universe of
Speaker 1: information that's there that could be incredibly helpful in the
Speaker 1: pursuit of transparency.
Speaker 2: In this federal judge.
Speaker 1: Said, despite Glenn Maxwell's attempts to quote Lodge a veritable
Speaker 1: kitchen sink of objections to the government's request to publish
Speaker 1: the sealed materials in compliance with the Epstein File Transparency Act,
Speaker 1: Judge Presca said, I am going to unseal the remaining
Speaker 1: materials in the government's possession because they should quote become
Speaker 1: part of the public record, subject to any victim protecting
Speaker 1: redactions authorized by the Act end quote. Now think about this, though,
Speaker 1: these are documents quote in the possession of the government.
Speaker 2: Remember these were grand jury materials.
Speaker 1: So there is a very real likelihood that there is
Speaker 1: going to be a challenge to dislodge these materials in
Speaker 1: any meaningful way to be able to discern information from them,
Speaker 1: because they are held by the Trump DOJ. All of
Speaker 1: that being said, that is not the end of the
Speaker 1: fight when it comes to transparency. There was other news
Speaker 1: an order that was entered just yesterday that deals with
Speaker 1: a lawsuit that was brought by Epstein victims against the government,
Speaker 1: specifically against the FBI for its failure to investigate, do anything,
Speaker 1: especially after this information was provided by people like Maria
Speaker 1: Farmer and by a woman named Andre Christiansen, a former
Speaker 1: Playboy playmate who was living in the Hugh Hefner Playboy mansion,
Speaker 1: told Hugh Hefner that she had been raped and trafficked
Speaker 1: by Epstein. Hugh Hefner himself calling the FBI and repeatedly
Speaker 1: advising that she had been abused, raped, and trafficked by
Speaker 1: Epstein and the FBI did nothing. Those are the allegations
Speaker 1: that are made by Christiansen. We know that Maria Farmer
Speaker 1: decades ago let the FBI know what the hell was
Speaker 1: going on, and they did nothing. And so this lawsuit
Speaker 1: asserts that the FBI failed these victim survivors in their inaction.
Speaker 1: I went into great detail about all of this news
Speaker 1: Insidebar Live. Take a listen. Okay, let's pull up this
Speaker 1: order Sidney. Okay, this is fresh out of the Southern
Speaker 1: District of Florida. People, here's some breaking news. Now what
Speaker 1: you're looking not here is something called a report and
Speaker 1: recommendation from a magistiate judge. Now you've heard me explain it,
Speaker 1: Katie Fang News. You've got federal courts that have the
Speaker 1: district court judges, and then you have these judges called
Speaker 1: magistrate judges who are assigned to those district court judges.
Speaker 1: And these mag judges, as we call them in short hand,
Speaker 1: these mag judges take over some of the work that
Speaker 1: the federal judges would do or could do. But you
Speaker 1: know they're very busy handling stuff, right, and so this
Speaker 1: report and recommendation you're looking at here was just entered
Speaker 1: today in a federal court in Florida. And this lawsuit
Speaker 1: was brought by several Jane Does. They are victims of Epstein,
Speaker 1: Maxwell and others, and they sued the United States government because.
Speaker 2: The FBI failed them.
Speaker 1: The allegations in this lawsuit is that the phone calls
Speaker 1: and the reports were made I'm talking decades ago people
Speaker 1: by somebody like Maria Farmer, one of the original reportees
Speaker 1: of this abuse and of the crimes. Maria talked to
Speaker 1: the FBI. The FBI told her we will look into this,
Speaker 1: and then they did nothing. And then there was a
Speaker 1: woman who was a Playboy playmate, and maybe you've seen
Speaker 1: these headlines and you didn't understand what was going on.
Speaker 1: Her name is Odra Christiansen. She alleges that she too
Speaker 1: was a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. She talked to a
Speaker 1: man named Hugh Hefner. Do you remember Hugh Hefner, the
Speaker 1: guy who was the Playboy magnet. I guess is what
Speaker 1: we could call. So apparently Playboy playmate Odra Christiansen was
Speaker 1: living in the Playboy mansion. She was sexually abused by
Speaker 1: Epstein and trafficked to other men by Epstein. She was
Speaker 1: so upset by what happened. She told that to Hugh Hefner.
Speaker 1: Hefner said, Audra, report it to the FBI. She said, please,
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner, will you call the FBI in my behalf,
Speaker 1: because I think that you have connections and clout and
Speaker 1: that people would take it seriously if you were.
Speaker 2: To do so.
Speaker 1: Here we go, folks, Hugh Hafner, and look, I see
Speaker 1: your comments. I'm not saying Hefner gets his angel's wings
Speaker 1: at all. Let me be clear, but I want you
Speaker 1: to listen to this carefully because this deals with the FBI. Ready,
Speaker 1: Hugh Hefner called the FBI multiple times to report Jeffrey
Speaker 1: Epsen to the FBI, and the FBI ignored it. Okay now,
Speaker 1: for more than fifteen years, according to this lawsuit, the
Speaker 1: FBI failed to investigate tips filed by Maria Farmer, Audra
Speaker 1: Christiansen and others. Now, after Epstein dies mysteriously in twenty nineteen,
Speaker 1: as we know, Christiansen again reached out to the FBI
Speaker 1: to report that she had been raped by Epstein and
Speaker 1: by a Hong Kong billionaire by the name of Stanley Hoe.
Speaker 1: She also claimed to the FBI that she had been
Speaker 1: trafficked for ten years. Do you think the FBI did
Speaker 1: anything about it back in twenty twenty No. As we
Speaker 1: sit here today as well, twenty twenty six, do you
Speaker 1: think we think the FBI has done shit.
Speaker 2: Nope.
Speaker 1: Now you want to get a little bit angrier about
Speaker 1: them not doing anything.
Speaker 2: Listen to this.
Speaker 1: The FBI, in defending this lawsuit that has been brought
Speaker 1: by these victims of Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell and others, says,
Speaker 1: too late, so sad, too bad. The FBI claims they're
Speaker 1: not liable because these women should have called again to
Speaker 1: the FBI.
Speaker 2: The FBI said, you.
Speaker 1: Know what, victims, you should have been on notice that
Speaker 1: if you didn't hear from us at the FBI, that
Speaker 1: you should have been letting us know again. And guess what,
Speaker 1: you dropped the timing ball. So your claims are now
Speaker 1: time barred from being able to move forward.
Speaker 2: Right now.
Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors defending this lawsuit, and by the way, kudos
Speaker 1: to Julie Brown, one of my personal heroes.
Speaker 2: But listen to this.
Speaker 1: Federal prosecutors defending this lawsuit said that the victims must
Speaker 1: have known about the Epstein crimes for years, given the
Speaker 1: extensive media coverage, But because they failed to file their
Speaker 1: claim against the FBI within a reasonable time span, their
Speaker 1: lawsuit should be dismissed. Close your ears. Those that are
Speaker 1: easily offended, are you fucking kidding me? Timely complaints are
Speaker 1: filed with the FBI. We've seen some of those three
Speaker 1: O twos, haven't we in the Epstein files that had
Speaker 1: been publicly disclosed footnote not all of the handwritten FBI
Speaker 1: interview notes that are a part of my lawsuit right now,
Speaker 1: right in the prellminary injunction. But the FBI, I'm not surprised,
Speaker 1: right if you guys think about it. I mean, it's
Speaker 1: kind of on brand for the Trump DOJ to take
Speaker 1: the position that the victims should be doing more, that
Speaker 1: the victims should be doing more. It's kind of similar
Speaker 1: to this idea, like you know, when they're like, well,
Speaker 1: you know these quote illegal aliens, Well, they should have
Speaker 1: come here legally. What about all the people that are
Speaker 1: here that do the legal process and then they get
Speaker 1: their asylum or their temporary protective status or they don't
Speaker 1: even you know, get to participate in the process, and
Speaker 1: then they're deemed to be illegal, and then they get
Speaker 1: their asses right round it up, deported, and maybe they
Speaker 1: even die.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's the same idea, right, It's.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, the victims, you should be doing more because
Speaker 1: we're not going to do our own damn job, and
Speaker 1: or we're just going to sit there and make it
Speaker 1: more difficult for you to be able to do stuff.
Speaker 2: It's outrageous, people, It.
Speaker 1: Truly is so thou now that you have the background,
Speaker 1: are you ready that order that I was showing you.
Speaker 1: What's so great about this order is it is denied
Speaker 1: the FBI's motion to dismiss. The FBI filed a motion
Speaker 1: to dismiss this lawsuit brought by these Epstein survivors, these victims.
Speaker 2: Now listen.
Speaker 1: It's a reported recommendation, which means that the FBI can
Speaker 1: quote like do like a mini appeal to the presiding
Speaker 1: district court judge. But this is a well reasoned opinion
Speaker 1: that it's been done by the magistrate judge.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: This this is important because if there's accountability to be had,
Speaker 1: we have to find it every which way we can,
Speaker 1: and we have to pry that accountability out of the
Speaker 1: cold dead hands of this Trump dj and this Trump administration.
Speaker 2: And this is yet another way of doing it.
Speaker 1: Now, some more good news on the Epstein files Transparency
Speaker 1: Front check this out. Just last week, a federal judge
Speaker 1: in New York, her name is Loretta what's her last name,
Speaker 1: dunt dund dum.
Speaker 2: I just had it right here.
Speaker 1: Loretta Presca, us district or Judge Loretta Presca ruled that
Speaker 1: the late Virginia Gufrey's twenty fifteen civil lawsuit against Glenn
Speaker 1: Maxwell can be unsealed. She this federal judge has ordered
Speaker 1: the public release of the files from Virginia's defamation lawsuit
Speaker 1: against Glenn Maxwell. Now, remember I mentioned Julie Brown a
Speaker 1: couple of minutes ago. Well, let's mention her again, and
Speaker 1: let's give her a amazing round of applause for her
Speaker 1: tenacious reporting and for her and the Miami Herald local
Speaker 1: journalism doing good fighting for the unsealing of this civil lawsuit.
Speaker 1: To refresh uracollection, or perhaps to let you know what happened,
Speaker 1: Glenn Maxwell defamed Virginia Duffrey when Glenn Maxwell publicly stated
Speaker 1: that Virginia Gufrey was a liar when she said that
Speaker 1: she had been sexually abused and trafficked by Epstein and others.
Speaker 1: And let me be clear, Virginia brought this defamation lawsuit
Speaker 1: all the way back in twenty fifteen. People, that's eleven
Speaker 1: years ago, because Glaigne Maxwell publicly said Virginia is a
Speaker 1: liar who had made up allegations of being sexually abused
Speaker 1: by Epstein, Maxwell and other powerful men like Alan Dershowitz
Speaker 1: and the former Prince Andrew. So, Virginia sued Glenn Maxwell
Speaker 1: for defamation and as a part of that lawsuit, can
Speaker 1: you imagine how specific and detailed the discovery was that
Speaker 1: went back and forth from side to side. That lawsuit
Speaker 1: settled in early of twenty seventeen. The former presiding judge
Speaker 1: on that civil defamation lawsuit, who this guy's now dead.
Speaker 1: His name is Robert Sweet. He issued a blanket order
Speaker 1: that sealed the entire documents because he said they were
Speaker 1: too sensitive and private. He says, there's a protective order.
Speaker 1: We're not going to let things like hearings, judicial decisions,
Speaker 1: depositions and other evidence be released. But now, but now,
Speaker 1: this other judge, Loretta Presca, says, because of the Epstein
Speaker 1: Files Transparency Act, having been passed into law in November
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. This judge says that Epstein Files
Speaker 1: Transparency Act trumps and I will use that pun all
Speaker 1: the way to the successful end of my own lawsuit.
Speaker 1: The Epstein File Transparency Act trumps any of these prior
Speaker 1: protective orders or any of these blanket sealing orders that
Speaker 1: came from this other judge who's now dead over this
Speaker 1: defamation lawsuit. So all of this information can be released
Speaker 1: to the public. But wait, let's talk about the details.
Speaker 1: What I always say here at Katie fang New is
Speaker 1: the devil is always in those details. Check this out now,
Speaker 1: Judge Presca, up until now has been doing a victim
Speaker 1: by victim evaluation of what should be released and what
Speaker 1: should not be reased, Like whose name stays redacted? Whose
Speaker 1: name doesn't stay redacted? Does that kind of sound familiar
Speaker 1: to you? You know what I am struggling with in
Speaker 1: my own case that now Blanche has allowed people and
Speaker 1: my lawsuit to self identify as victims, or to allow
Speaker 1: them to use lawyers to it to identify themselves as victims.
Speaker 1: And that is why Blanche is redacting everybody's names from
Speaker 1: being able to be revealed.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: We're not talking about thousands of documents that are currently
Speaker 1: held in some random location in this lawsuit that was brought,
Speaker 1: this defamation lawsuit. We are talking documents that are a
Speaker 1: part of the Epstein files as defined by the ones
Speaker 1: that are held by the DOJ. So guess what's going
Speaker 1: to happen Now we now get this order from Judge
Speaker 1: Presca saying unseal and release, and that is going to
Speaker 1: collide with who Todd Blanche at the DOJ. So according
Speaker 1: to Julie Brown, the documents are in the possession of
Speaker 1: the DOJ. The DOJ will have to redact and then release.
Speaker 1: But we're talking almost a ninety one hundred thousand pages
Speaker 1: of documents. We're talking a lot of documents here, and
Speaker 1: they speak directly to the allegations. And remember we talk
Speaker 1: about this a lot here. Defamation is a very interesting
Speaker 1: legal claim to make because when you sue somebody for defamation,
Speaker 1: you put at issue what is claimed by one side
Speaker 1: to be a lie and the other side to be
Speaker 1: the truth. And that is why you put at issue
Speaker 1: the story. And so you can I can imagine the
Speaker 1: nature of the discovery in this lawsuit the depositions, the interrogatories,
Speaker 1: the production of documents, the communications. I mean, there is
Speaker 1: some serious overlap here. Especially remember my lawsuit seeks the
Speaker 1: production of the entirety of the Epstein Files as held
Speaker 1: by the DOJ, and that would necessarily include these documents
Speaker 1: that have now been ordered to be unsealed by Judge Presca.
Speaker 1: So I foresee a battle on the imminent event horizon
Speaker 1: with Todd Blanche and the DOJ. But you have the
Speaker 1: power of another federal judge stating that the Epstein Files
Speaker 1: Transparency Act, the purpose of it is to make this
Speaker 1: type of public disclosure, and that is exactly the crux
Speaker 1: of my lawsuit. It helps my lawsuit, folks. So I
Speaker 1: am grateful for this order. I'm grateful for the continued
Speaker 1: or reporting, and I want to just say again thank
Speaker 1: you to jul Brown and the Miami Herald for pushing
Speaker 1: for suing to get to get these records unsealed. It
Speaker 1: is a basic tenet of journalism that the public deserves
Speaker 1: to know the information in this type of lawsuit, of course,
Speaker 1: with protections for victims that.
Speaker 2: Are afforded those protections. But as Judge EMMITTT.
Speaker 1: Sullivan said on Thursday, at the hearing that we went
Speaker 1: to that status hearing in DC. The public and the
Speaker 1: victims have the right to know what the hell is
Speaker 1: going on in my case and now in this other
Speaker 1: case that had been brought by the late Virginia Giuffrey
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Speaker 1: consider this reporting from the New York Times because I
Speaker 1: found it to be absolutely fascinating. There was no public
Speaker 1: polling ahead of the Democratic primary for the United States
Speaker 1: Senate seat in Florida that is currently held by incumbent
Speaker 1: Republican Ashley Moody, and that Democratic primary last night resulted
Speaker 1: in a huge, a huge upset by current Florida State
Speaker 1: Representative Angie Nixon against alex Vinman. And I'm talking big,
Speaker 1: big numbers for Angie Nixon. Now, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: labeling that's going into this announcement or this analysis, right
Speaker 1: because Angie is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.
Speaker 1: But during our conversation I wanted to explore that with
Speaker 1: her because for me, in my opinion, the labeling is
Speaker 1: not helpful. In my opinion, we should be looking at
Speaker 1: the candidate and the issues and the policies and the
Speaker 1: positions that the candidate holds. And for somebody like Angie Nixon,
Speaker 1: who understands how hard it is to earn a dollar
Speaker 1: and let that dollar stretch, she's somebody who understands the
Speaker 1: value of affordability in the truest sense of the word.
Speaker 1: So I wanted to speak to Angie immediately after her
Speaker 1: amazing win and talk about the prospects going into the
Speaker 1: general election against Ashley Moody in November, and why going
Speaker 1: back to what it really means to be a grass
Speaker 1: roots campaigner, why that made sense for her joining me
Speaker 1: now is the person that is going to be the
Speaker 1: next United States Senator from the state of Florida. Angie Nixon,
Speaker 1: first and foremost, congratulations on a race well run.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited.
Speaker 1: Look, may I call you Angie, because look, I know
Speaker 1: you technically have a title of state representative, but I'd
Speaker 1: love to be able to let the viewers know, Angie,
Speaker 1: just how much hard work went into this incredible win.
Speaker 1: I want to stay on the numbers. The numbers are
Speaker 1: so important here always. You secured at least fifty six
Speaker 1: percent of the vote, and when it came to fundraising,
Speaker 1: nine hundred and seventy five thousand versus Alex Vinman's sixteen
Speaker 1: point three million, and you still pulled off the primary win.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we pulled off the primary win with old fashion organizing.
Speaker 4: And what's important to know, we knew we were going
Speaker 4: to win because we are organizers. We just didn't know
Speaker 4: we were going to win by that much. Look, Katie, we
Speaker 4: traveled all across the state of Florida, having conversations with
Speaker 4: tens of thousands of Floridians from the Payhandle all the
Speaker 4: way down to the Keys, and we had tough conversations
Speaker 4: with people as well, folks who we didn't agree with ideologically.
Speaker 4: But you know, at the end of those conversations, they
Speaker 4: respected me because I showed up. And they literally told
Speaker 4: me that they respected me because I showed up and
Speaker 4: I didn't run away from those conversations. And that's what
Speaker 4: we need in the next United States senator. Too often,
Speaker 4: many of our lawmakers, particularly unelected Ashley Moody, they won't
Speaker 4: even have in person town hall meetings. She very rarely
Speaker 4: goes on the news unless it's a favorable news organization
Speaker 4: like Fox, and people don't want that. People want someone
Speaker 4: who is accountable and will answer their question, someone who's transparent.
Speaker 3: And I'm looking forward.
Speaker 4: To being that type of person for them when I
Speaker 4: become their next United States Senator.
Speaker 1: Well, it's consistent, it's who you are. You'll just have
Speaker 1: it with a different title as you a senator. But
Speaker 1: I think this is important. I want people to know this. Enerji,
Speaker 1: you drove yourself sometimes in your own personal call. You're
Speaker 1: those couches. If that's what it took, I mean you
Speaker 1: did what we've always called grassroots. I think people have
Speaker 1: lost sight of what it means to be grassroots. I
Speaker 1: think people use it as a throwaway term because look,
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're driven by technology these days. It
Speaker 1: is the twenty first century, but nothing beats the literal
Speaker 1: look me in the white of the eyes, sit me
Speaker 1: down and talk to me about what makes the difference
Speaker 1: in my life.
Speaker 4: You are exactly right, and folks love that because they
Speaker 4: crave community, especially in a time where we are so
Speaker 4: disconnected via social media and people are going through a
Speaker 4: lot right now. People are working harder than ever and
Speaker 4: they are still struggling. And meanwhile you have folks like
Speaker 4: Ashley Moody and Donald Trump who are working less and
Speaker 4: less and less and they're getting richer. And so that
Speaker 4: grassroots organizing is something that they understood. They saw me
Speaker 4: when my tire split on the road. I told my
Speaker 4: videographer who was with me, I was like, girl, go
Speaker 4: ahead and video tape is because people will not believe
Speaker 4: what I'm going through right now.
Speaker 3: And that really resonated with folks.
Speaker 4: They want someone who understands what they're going through. And me,
Speaker 4: having been a single mom for twelve years.
Speaker 3: I number one know how to stretch a dollar.
Speaker 4: Okay, So that's why we were able to do what
Speaker 4: we did on this campaign. But also I know about
Speaker 4: grit and I know about what it's like when I
Speaker 4: had to decide whether or not I could afford my
Speaker 4: daughter's EpiPen and asthma pump, or if I wanted to
Speaker 4: make sure she had enough food to eat, And those
Speaker 4: are decisions that people shouldn't have to make and there's
Speaker 4: so many people in our country that are having to
Speaker 4: make a decision about what to do in that situation,
Speaker 4: and it should never happen.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and let's be clear, number one, these poor economic
Speaker 1: conditions are the fault of Republicans. And in Florida it
Speaker 1: has been Republicans for decades now. We got governors that
Speaker 1: are Republicans, we got state Senate that's run by Republicans,
Speaker 1: we got a state legislator for our state reps run
Speaker 1: by Republicans. Right, so, if there's anything going on in Florida,
Speaker 1: it's Republican. And then you also have a what I
Speaker 1: call the power trifecta on the federal level. You got
Speaker 1: a Republican president, a Republican controlled Senate, a Republican controlled
Speaker 1: House of Representatives.
Speaker 2: Which is why these conditions, even though.
Speaker 1: We're all being effected regardless of our party affiliation, it's
Speaker 1: because of Republicans that have become lazy.
Speaker 2: They are entitled.
Speaker 1: And for example, something like Ashley Moody, she never even
Speaker 1: had to run.
Speaker 2: For the job that she has.
Speaker 1: She was hand picked by Ron DeSantis to be able
Speaker 1: to serve in the role that she has right now.
Speaker 4: And she was hand pied after she allowed ten million
Speaker 4: dollars that was supposed to go to wars our most
Speaker 4: medically needy kids, to actually be diverted to defeat two citizens.
Speaker 4: We had ballot initiatives that we signed petitions to get
Speaker 4: placed on the ballot. They decided to push back and
Speaker 4: use money to make up lies about what it would
Speaker 4: have done, and so it defeated those ballot initiatives even
Speaker 4: though an overwhelmingly big majority voted in favor of it.
Speaker 4: And y'all, that is so corrupt. But I mean, that's
Speaker 4: who Ashley Moody is. She also is the rubber stamp
Speaker 4: and the water holder for Donald Trump, who is the biggest,
Speaker 4: the biggest scammer in our country's history as a president.
Speaker 4: And folks are tired of it. And so I'm looking
Speaker 4: forward to going to Washington, d C. To provide every day,
Speaker 4: hardworking people with some relief after we work to you know,
Speaker 4: impeach and I vote to remove Donald Trump and we
Speaker 4: hold his administration accountable. I'm so excited, Katie. I'm really
Speaker 4: looking forward to Ashley Moody calling me her senator.
Speaker 2: Well me too.
Speaker 1: So here's the thing, Angie, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: something because I think this is a really important part
Speaker 1: of letting people understand what you are all about. So
Speaker 1: I am over people getting too attached to a label. Right,
Speaker 1: So I'm a Democrat, You're a Democrat. You technically, quote unquote,
Speaker 1: we'll say technically you you are a member of the
Speaker 1: Democratic Socialists of America.
Speaker 2: And I urge everybody to calm down.
Speaker 1: Calm down, and I urge everybody to look beyond what
Speaker 1: these labels are, because what's really important is finding out
Speaker 1: what does somebody stand for and what do they fight for.
Speaker 1: And as a mom of an eleven year old daughter,
Speaker 1: as a wife, as a working mother, as a working person,
Speaker 1: as a business owner, that's where my priorities are.
Speaker 2: Am I going to be able.
Speaker 1: To afford healthcare for myself, my family, my aging mom?
Speaker 1: Can I make sure that my taxes are affordable so
Speaker 1: I can continue to have the American dream of owning
Speaker 1: a home, running a business. Will my child be safe
Speaker 1: when she goes to school from gun violence? Will there
Speaker 1: be enough food and basic necessities that are at an
Speaker 1: affordable price for no matter who you are across that
Speaker 1: financial spectrum, these are the things that are priorities for me.
Speaker 1: Unless so the labels. How important is it to unite
Speaker 1: people going into the general election in November, Angie, behind
Speaker 1: the person, not what somebody wants to label you.
Speaker 3: It's very important to unite people just period. Right.
Speaker 4: I think it's important for me to highlight that I
Speaker 4: am a recent member of DSA as well as a
Speaker 4: recent member of the Working Family Party. I joined those
Speaker 4: organizations because they were organizations that were actually pushing for
Speaker 4: medicare for all, right. They were pushing for universal childcare,
Speaker 4: they were pushing for housing being a right of folks,
Speaker 4: and unfortunately the Democratic Party was not always necessarily pushing
Speaker 4: for that. And so I want to be perfectly clear.
Speaker 4: The Democratic Party is supposed to be a big tint
Speaker 4: of a lot of folks and a lot of thoughts,
Speaker 4: and DSA and moderates and Conservative Democrats and liberals and whatever.
Speaker 4: They should all be welcome under this big tint. That's
Speaker 4: what makes us stronger. Our country is super diverse. It
Speaker 4: makes we made up of different socioeconomic statuses, and so
Speaker 4: that is how our party should be reflected as well. Look,
Speaker 4: I believe that hard working, everyday people should get to
Speaker 4: shape what their economies look like and what their communities
Speaker 4: look like and as a big ten, we should want
Speaker 4: this diverse thought and opinion so that we can actually
Speaker 4: work towards building these beautiful multi racial, working class community
Speaker 4: and country and state so that we can make sure
Speaker 4: that everyone benefits and no longer just survives.
Speaker 3: But we can thrive and always flourish.
Speaker 1: You've been a state representative since twenty twenty and one
Speaker 1: thing that was a remarkable act of courage was protesting
Speaker 1: in Governor Ron DeSantis's office recently over the illegal jerrymandering
Speaker 1: and redistricting efforts that have been plaguing the state of
Speaker 1: Florida at the hands of Republicans.
Speaker 2: And talk about why.
Speaker 1: It was important enough for you to actually be there,
Speaker 1: speaking up, speaking out. It ended up getting you arrested.
Speaker 1: And you know, I feel like a lot of people
Speaker 1: talk the talk, but they certainly don't walk that walk
Speaker 1: when it comes to being committed to the ideas of
Speaker 1: of real free speech, real protest and the bringing you know,
Speaker 1: and highlighting the things that are the inequities that impact
Speaker 1: all of us, because when you have this illegal gerrymandering
Speaker 1: and redistricting, it's gonna affect your ability to vote. Because
Speaker 1: we tell everybody, quote, we'll just go out and vote.
Speaker 1: But if you can't even vote in a way where
Speaker 1: your vote actually has value, then that defeats the purpose.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 4: And so you know, we just have to make sure
Speaker 4: that we are talking to folks, we are uplifting them.
Speaker 4: And look, democracy was under attack, Katie, it was. And
Speaker 4: I could not sit idly by as a black woman
Speaker 4: who had elders that are still alive that were protesting
Speaker 4: and risking their lives for me to be able to
Speaker 4: have the right to vote, for them to be able
Speaker 4: to have the right to vote.
Speaker 3: And as I.
Speaker 4: Witnessed, you know, Ron Desanta's doing the bidding of Donald
Speaker 4: Trump so that he could help ring maps. I couldn't
Speaker 4: just sit there like democracy is literally falling and under attack.
Speaker 4: It's not falling, they are attacking it. Our institutions are
Speaker 4: under attack. And so now is not the time to
Speaker 4: send strongly worded emails, Katie. Now is the time for
Speaker 4: us instead of just going high when they go low,
Speaker 4: Like First Lady Michelle Obama stated, we need to get
Speaker 4: loud and we need to push back because if we don't,
Speaker 4: they're gonna do a little bit and see what happens.
Speaker 4: We don't say anything then it gets normalized and they
Speaker 4: can do a little bit more. And what was just
Speaker 4: normalized is like it's not a big deal, and so
Speaker 4: they gonna keep going and keep going. And right now
Speaker 4: it has to stop, Katie. People are struggling.
Speaker 3: Right now.
Speaker 4: There are parents that are killing their children because they're
Speaker 4: so stressed out, and then they're taking their lives because
Speaker 4: they lost jobs, right and like that's what Donald Trump,
Speaker 4: Donald Trump presidency has gotten us. I have seen so
Speaker 4: many parents killing their babies because they just they're hurting.
Speaker 4: Folks are hurting, and it doesn't have to be this way.
Speaker 4: And I am going to fight like hell to make
Speaker 4: sure that we stop it and we build a Florida
Speaker 4: and an America that benefits us all.
Speaker 1: One of your main campaign pillars is the idea of affordability,
Speaker 1: and that includes the idea that we have free health
Speaker 1: care Medicare for all, we have free childcare, a federal
Speaker 1: minimum wage of at least twenty.
Speaker 2: Five dollars per hour.
Speaker 1: What do you say to critics that may say, well,
Speaker 1: that sounds good, but how do you actually make it
Speaker 1: happen financially. It's not like there's just this pot of
Speaker 1: money that's available. There to be able to fund all
Speaker 1: of these programs in these policies.
Speaker 4: So number one, we're already paying the cost of Medicare
Speaker 4: for all right now, paying that cost because there's so
Speaker 4: many people that don't have any insurance and they're already
Speaker 4: going to emergency rooms. And the government gets that bill,
Speaker 4: we get left hold in the bag. And so we
Speaker 4: can stop that from happening by going ahead and passing
Speaker 4: universal healthcare Medicare for all. The only people KD that
Speaker 4: don't want that to happen are these insurance companies because
Speaker 4: they're mad that they won't be able to deny people's
Speaker 4: claims so that they can make a larger profit.
Speaker 1: And the billionaires that own the insurance companies.
Speaker 4: Are not exactly KD exactly. And so these things are
Speaker 4: a no brainer. Universal childcare. For every dollar the government spends,
Speaker 4: it puts three dollars back into the economy because it
Speaker 4: allows people to be able to get to work. And
Speaker 4: so these are things that would benefit us all. And again,
Speaker 4: the only folks that don't want it, like you said,
Speaker 4: are these greedy billionaires and these corrupt corporations. And I
Speaker 4: don't care about any of them. I care about every
Speaker 4: day how are working people.
Speaker 2: Angie Nixon.
Speaker 1: I want to wrap up our conversation by quoting your
Speaker 1: victory statement, we have seventy seven days to flip Florida blue,
Speaker 1: win the Senate seat, and help take back the US Senate.
Speaker 1: We cannot waste a single one. They tried to stop us.
Speaker 1: We won anyway, Now we're coming for the US Senate.
Speaker 1: You know, I don't want to call you a former
Speaker 1: community organizer because in my mind, I feel like you're
Speaker 1: always organizing, honey, but number one, but number two, I
Speaker 1: think community organizers should be and are our politicians right,
Speaker 1: They should be the people that represent us because they
Speaker 1: understand the community best. So what is your message right
Speaker 1: now to people that are watching this and listening to
Speaker 1: this interview and saying, I'm in Florida. I care about
Speaker 1: my kid, my neighbor, my family, people I haven't even met.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a decent person who wants to make sure
Speaker 1: that there is a good, promising future for Floridians and
Speaker 1: for Americans.
Speaker 4: What I would say is they need to come on
Speaker 4: and join our people Power campaign at Angie Nixon dot com.
Speaker 3: Sign up to volunteer so that we can.
Speaker 4: Expand our people powered infrastructure that's actually going to help
Speaker 4: uplift our communities to a point where we are no
Speaker 4: longer just surviving, but we're thriving and we're flourishing. And
Speaker 4: I'm looking forward to take building a new vision this
Speaker 4: next two hundred and fifty years alongside these folks to build.
Speaker 3: A Florida and an America for all.
Speaker 1: Katie, power of the people, people over the profits. And
Speaker 1: Angie Nickson, the next United States Senator from the great
Speaker 1: state of Florida. It's good to see you. Congratulations and
Speaker 1: we can't relent. Put the pedal to the metal on
Speaker 1: this one. We got only a few days left between
Speaker 1: now and November.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank you so much, Katie. Let's do you get
Speaker 3: into existence.
Speaker 2: Have a good day, absolutely, Katie Fang.
Speaker 1: Here, we launched the Katifang News Channel in partnership with
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Speaker 1: a high information America together. We've got some major developments
Speaker 1: out of the criminal prosecution of journalists Don Lemon, Georgia
Speaker 1: Fort and some incredible organizers in Minnesota that were protesting
Speaker 1: the draconian immigration enforcement tactics by the Trump regime. Earlier
Speaker 1: this year in Minneapolis Saint Paul, as you'll recall, several
Speaker 1: people were indicted and charged with a conspiracy relating to
Speaker 1: an incident that occurred at a local church. The allegations
Speaker 1: being that people like Don Lemon, Georgia Fort and others
Speaker 1: were intimidating and they were violating the Federals actually called
Speaker 1: the FACE Act fac Act. The FACE Act stands for
Speaker 1: the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety four. It criminalizes the actions taken to be able
Speaker 1: to prevent or obstruct somebody from being able to gain
Speaker 1: entry for a place that provides reproductive health services or
Speaker 1: to a place where people go to exercise their First
Speaker 1: Amendment right of religious freedom, like a place of religious worship,
Speaker 1: or if you intentionally damage or destroy the property of
Speaker 1: a facility that provides reproductive health services, or you intentionally
Speaker 1: damage or destroy the property of a place of religious worship.
Speaker 1: So these people were all alleged to have conspired to
Speaker 1: do so earlier this year.
Speaker 2: Now we know.
Speaker 1: That Don Lemon and Georgia Ford have been fighting back,
Speaker 1: as have the other co defendants, But I want to
Speaker 1: focus specifically on a motion that was filed by them
Speaker 1: a few months ago to be able to disclose the
Speaker 1: grand jury proceedings because there has been a lot of
Speaker 1: very bad, unconstitutional behavior by the Department of Justice prosecutors
Speaker 1: and other jurisdictions, including in Minnesota, concerning this particular prosecution.
Speaker 1: So just yesterday a federal judge, Judge Laura Provenzeno in Minnesota,
Speaker 1: enter this order. It's entitled Order for in camera Review,
Speaker 1: and what she has said is this, the Department of
Speaker 1: Justice must turn over no later than August twenty fifth
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty six, a copy of the transcripts and
Speaker 1: a thumb drive of any multimedia evidence that will be
Speaker 1: reviewed in chambers by the judge. And it's going to
Speaker 1: cover the waterfront when it comes to the presentment of
Speaker 1: evidence to the grand jury to obtain the indictment that
Speaker 1: was entered and returned against Don Lemon, Georgia Ford, and
Speaker 1: the other co defendants. This includes the presentation by the
Speaker 1: Department of Justice attorneys and case agents to the grand
Speaker 1: jury on January twenty ninth, twenty twenty six, resulting in
Speaker 1: the indictment and the presentation by the Department of Justice
Speaker 1: attorneys and case agents to the grand jury on February
Speaker 1: twenty six, twenty twenty six, resulting in the superseding indictment.
Speaker 1: The materials should comprise any introduction, legal instruction for the
Speaker 1: two counts, witness testimony, and closing, including answers to questions
Speaker 1: from the grand jurors. And that's an exact quote from
Speaker 1: the judge's order. Now, how did this come to pass?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: As I mentioned a few minutes ago, Don and Georgia
Speaker 1: filed a motion to disclose the grand jury proceedings. But
Speaker 1: what happens in a federal case is a magistrate judge,
Speaker 1: who is a judge that works in tandem with a
Speaker 1: district court judge. But if you had to look at
Speaker 1: the hierarchy of things, it's the district court judge here
Speaker 1: and then below is the magistrate judge. And oftentimes the
Speaker 1: magistrate judge takes over listening to motions, maybe handling disputes,
Speaker 1: over discovery, whatever, because the district court judge is very busy.
Speaker 1: But again they work together, right, they are within the
Speaker 1: same division.
Speaker 2: So the magistrate.
Speaker 1: Judge in this case Judge Douglas Mico, he denied Don
Speaker 1: and and excuse me Don and Jorge's motion for disclosure
Speaker 1: of the grand jury proceedings. Now, as it also works
Speaker 1: in federal court, a report and recommendations is entered by
Speaker 1: a magistrate judge or an order is entered by the
Speaker 1: magistrate judge, and you, as a litigant, have the right
Speaker 1: to object an appeal that magistrate judges findings to the
Speaker 1: district court judge. So I'm going to repeat this again
Speaker 1: for clarity. Let's say that the magistrate judge that is
Speaker 1: assigned to your division in which your case is located
Speaker 1: makes a ruling on an issue specifically here on whether
Speaker 1: or not the great and Jury materials should be disclosed
Speaker 1: to defendants Don Lemon and Georgia Ford. If you disagree
Speaker 1: with what the magris Should judge decided, you can appeal
Speaker 1: it to the district court judge. Now that is the
Speaker 1: judge whose word is going to be the final word
Speaker 1: in that court. Of course, you can try to appeal
Speaker 1: that ultimately to an appeals court. But just for interests
Speaker 1: of time and for interests of this conversation, we're focusing
Speaker 1: just on the magris Should judge and the.
Speaker 2: District court judge.
Speaker 1: So the district court judge, Laura pardon me, Provenzeno gets
Speaker 1: the objections to what this mag judge decided, and she says,
Speaker 1: I actually need to look at all of the grand
Speaker 1: jury materials to determine whether matri should Judge Miko's order
Speaker 1: is appropriate. Makes sense, right, She says, give me everything,
Speaker 1: because I need to decide whether or not the mag
Speaker 1: judge made the right decision. And hey, by the way,
Speaker 1: this judge, Judge Miko, had actually previously said maybe a
Speaker 1: little bit of material can be disclosed, but this judge,
Speaker 1: she says, uh uh, I want to see all of
Speaker 1: this material now. I want to read to you some
Speaker 1: portions of the objections that were filed at the end
Speaker 1: of June by Don Lemon and Georgia Ford's lawyers to
Speaker 1: this ruling by the magig judge who said, Nope, you
Speaker 1: don't get your hands on the grand jury materials introduction
Speaker 1: page one quote. There's substantial evidence of grand jury irregularities
Speaker 1: in this case. Multiple judges, including at the Eighth Circuit,
Speaker 1: which is the federal appeals court, found that there was
Speaker 1: no probable cause to charge Lemon and fort A federal
Speaker 1: agent fossely attested repeatedly to judges that Lemon and Fort
Speaker 1: engaged in quote chanting inside the church, including to obtain
Speaker 1: a search warrant for Lemon's iPhone, an allegation not originally
Speaker 1: present in the denied complaint affidavit, and which was subsequently
Speaker 1: revised in future affidavits to clarify that only quote some
Speaker 1: individuals engaged in chanting. Another judge found no probable cause
Speaker 1: for warrant seeking subscriber information from Lemen and Fort's YouTube channels,
Speaker 1: and the government persuaded the grand jury to indict at
Speaker 1: least one person, only to concede she was completely uninvolved
Speaker 1: in the events. Meanwhile, the government emits to making material
Speaker 1: misrepresentations about four and at least eight affidavits, but tellingly
Speaker 1: refuses to confirm whether it repeated those falsehoods to the
Speaker 1: Grand jury. Despite these glaring irregularities, or perhaps because of them,
Speaker 1: the government has yet to produce all but one of
Speaker 1: the Grand jury transcripts, even those plainly containing Brady material,
Speaker 1: meaning material that is required to be turned over to
Speaker 1: a defendant because it has exculpatory value, such of those
Speaker 1: containing misstatements that led to the indictment of an innocent
Speaker 1: person and the accusation that Lemon and Fort conspired with her.
Speaker 1: Given this prosecution's checkered history, Lemon and Fort respectfully asked
Speaker 1: if the court reviewed the grand jury proceedings to ensure
Speaker 1: no further improper conduct occurred. The grand jury is not
Speaker 1: merely an investigative tool of the prosecution. It is also
Speaker 1: a protector of citizens against arbitrary and oppressive government action
Speaker 1: and unfounded criminal prosecutions. There is every indication that the
Speaker 1: government prohibited the grand jury from playing that pivotal role here.
Speaker 1: Review of those proceedings is therefore warranted. And that, my friends,
Speaker 1: is how you practice law. And that is what was
Speaker 1: presented to the federal judge and that resulted in her
Speaker 1: entering this order yesterday demanding that the Trump Department of
Speaker 1: Justice turn over the entirety of the grand jury materials,
Speaker 1: including transcripts, and including any type of multimedia evidence, maybe
Speaker 1: a power point, and other evidence that was presented to
Speaker 1: this grand jury to convince them to return a true
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Speaker 2: Now, I want to.
Speaker 1: Also turn back the hands of time a little bit
Speaker 1: to go to the original motion that was filed by
Speaker 1: Don Lemon and Georgia Ford to get their hands on
Speaker 1: these grand jury proceedings, because there's some allegations contained within
Speaker 1: that motion that are powerful, and it just highlights exactly
Speaker 1: how far and how low the Trump doj will go
Speaker 1: to be able to go after political opponents of Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: simply because he's asking them.
Speaker 2: To do so.
Speaker 1: Back in February of this year, Don and Georgia's lawyers
Speaker 1: filed this motion to disclose the grand jury proceedings, and
Speaker 1: I'm on page eighteen of thirty two of this motion.
Speaker 1: It's entitled the sections entitled the substantial Likelihood that the
Speaker 1: government carried gross misrepresentations and material issues of fact and
Speaker 1: law into the grand jury preceding Warren's disclosure of the
Speaker 1: grand jury materials. This is another way of saying that
Speaker 1: the prosecutors who went into that grand jury room made
Speaker 1: such egregious misrepresentations of material issues of fact and law
Speaker 1: that that would be the only way that these grand
Speaker 1: jurors could return an indictment against Don and Georgia. So
Speaker 1: because of that action, and because of the extraordinary scent
Speaker 1: of events that led to this indictment. Even coming into fruition,
Speaker 1: it calls into question the validity of the indictment, and
Speaker 1: the federal rules allow disclosure of grand jury materials when
Speaker 1: they are quote needed to avoid a possible injustice in
Speaker 1: another judicial proceeding. Don and George's sought disclosure of these
Speaker 1: grand jury transcripts to determine if the grand jury's probable
Speaker 1: cause determination was based on the same inaccurate or misleading
Speaker 1: representations that the government is making publicly, which would cast
Speaker 1: great doubt that the decision to indict them was free
Speaker 1: from substantial influence of these violations.
Speaker 2: Now here's the thing.
Speaker 1: This motion also cites to the fact that not only
Speaker 1: was the Department of Justice making public statements that were
Speaker 1: wrong on the law when it comes to the Face Act,
Speaker 1: but there was a very real risk that will be
Speaker 1: confirmed by these grand jury transcripts, that these DOJ lawyers
Speaker 1: are presenting the wrong law and it sounds like the
Speaker 1: wrong facts to the grand jury to convince them to
Speaker 1: indict Dawn and Georgia. They gave an example in this
Speaker 1: motion that I wanted to make sure that we remembered
Speaker 1: back in November of twenty twenty five, a federal judge
Speaker 1: in the Eastern District of Virginia granted former FBI Director
Speaker 1: James Commey's request to be able to access all of
Speaker 1: the grand jury materials. Remember when he was indicted for
Speaker 1: some BS allegations of mortgage fraud and all that other stuff, right, Well,
Speaker 1: he sought the same relief there. He wanted access to
Speaker 1: the grand jury materials, including the transcript of the grand
Speaker 1: jury proceedings when no witness was present, because the indictment
Speaker 1: that was returned against him was f and nuts, and
Speaker 1: a magister judge said, yeah, I agree, I'm gonna give
Speaker 1: it to you. And I remember eventually that was a
Speaker 1: Lindsay Halligan special right, and this insurance Lauryer Lindsay Halligan.
Speaker 1: It was found by a judge that she was invalidly
Speaker 1: and illegally appointed as the acting US Attorney for the
Speaker 1: Eastern District of Virginia, So that indictment against Comy, in
Speaker 1: the indictment against his James gone. But it was important
Speaker 1: to remember that there was such bad irregularities and bad
Speaker 1: conduct by the DOJ that a judge says, absolutely, I'm
Speaker 1: turning over these records to James Comy. The Court's reasoning
Speaker 1: in Comy applies with egal force to down in Virginia,
Speaker 1: including the Court's concerns that quote statements by their prosecutors
Speaker 1: to the grand jurors on their face appeared to be
Speaker 1: fundamental misstatements of the law that could compromise the integrity
Speaker 1: of the grand jury process. The motion goes on to
Speaker 1: cite that in this case, if you'll recall, the doj
Speaker 1: tried to get this indictment, couldn't get it. Then they
Speaker 1: tried to strong arm the chief judge of this district
Speaker 1: to do it, couldn't do it. Then they went above,
Speaker 1: went to the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to do it.
Speaker 1: It's it's like, whoa piece of the hell out, what
Speaker 1: are you doing here? You can't do this. And eventually
Speaker 1: they secured a grand jury indictment against Georgia Don and
Speaker 1: the other defendants. But it was just so irregular, and
Speaker 1: it was outrageous, the pressure campaign and the conduct that
Speaker 1: was done by these federal prosecutors just to be able
Speaker 1: to satisfy the lust and the need to punish of
Speaker 1: somebody like convicted vollon Donald Trump. We all know it rots.
Speaker 1: It stinks and it's really bad. And the reality is
Speaker 1: you now have people that are having to pay attorney's
Speaker 1: fees and have to go through the stress, anxiety, and
Speaker 1: the whole pressure of having to be prosecuted illegally and unfairly.
Speaker 1: So this ask by Don Lemon and Georgia Fort is
Speaker 1: incredibly reasonable because the allegations in the grand jury indictment
Speaker 1: against Don and Georgia Fort are almost exactly total mirrors
Speaker 1: of the allegations in the original affidavit when the judge
Speaker 1: found no probable cause to arrest them.
Speaker 2: Right, So think about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there is a law, and the law militates towards
Speaker 1: protecting grand jury proceedings their secrecy and confidentiality.
Speaker 2: But it's not absolute.
Speaker 1: And if you, as a defendant, can show that and
Speaker 1: meet the burden that your need for these wreckords outweighs
Speaker 1: this idea of preserving grand jury secrecy, then yes, you
Speaker 1: can get your hands on these grand jury records. And
Speaker 1: that's exactly the case here, at least at this point. No,
Speaker 1: let me be clear, it's not like Don and Georgia
Speaker 1: and the others are going to get their hands on
Speaker 1: the Grandeur materials right now. The presiding District Court judge says,
Speaker 1: give me all of the materials Trump Department of Justice,
Speaker 1: and I will decide whether the magigate judge appropriately ruled
Speaker 1: to deny Don and Georgia their access to these materials.
Speaker 2: It is good news.
Speaker 1: For the rule of law. And look, there's always so
Speaker 1: much going on these days. It's hard to keep track
Speaker 1: of everything. But you and I both know that this
Speaker 1: criminal prosecution is always top of mind for people like
Speaker 1: Lemon and Georgia Ford and the other people that were
Speaker 1: unfairly and unconstitutionally and illegally indicted in this case. And
Speaker 1: that is the reason why we have to stay on
Speaker 1: top of all of it. So when we have developments
Speaker 1: of this, I make sure that you know them here
Speaker 1: at Katie Fang News. Like and subscribe. Also, don't forget
Speaker 1: we have an audio podcast that you can subscribe subscribe
Speaker 1: to excuse me for free. In the meantime, be mad,
Speaker 1: be outraged, demand accountability. That is exactly what Don and
Speaker 1: Georgia are doing when they are seeking these grand jury records.
Speaker 2: I'm off to rattle more.
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