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<v Speaker 1>Last week, with little to no coverage from mainstream media,

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<v Speaker 1>was an important ruling that came out of a federal

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<v Speaker 1>court in New York by a George H. W. Bush

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<v Speaker 1>appointed judge named Loretta Presca. Judge Presca entering an order

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<v Speaker 1>that states that grand jury materials that were previously sealed

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<v Speaker 1>by another federal judge in the lawsuit that was for

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<v Speaker 1>defamation that was brought by the late Virginia Geoffrey against

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<v Speaker 1>Glen Maxwell, well, those grand jury materials can be unsealed.

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<v Speaker 1>Those materials were provided two federal prosecutors that were seeking

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<v Speaker 1>the indictment against Jeffrey Epstein. They were grand jury materials.

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<v Speaker 1>They were a part of that case that was built

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<v Speaker 1>against Jeffrey Epstein, and they have been under seal since then.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you have to think about the universe of

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<v Speaker 1>information that's there that could be incredibly helpful in the

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<v Speaker 1>pursuit of transparency.

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<v Speaker 2>In this federal judge.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, despite Glenn Maxwell's attempts to quote Lodge a veritable

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<v Speaker 1>kitchen sink of objections to the government's request to publish

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<v Speaker 1>the sealed materials in compliance with the Epstein File Transparency Act,

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Presca said, I am going to unseal the remaining

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<v Speaker 1>materials in the government's possession because they should quote become

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<v Speaker 1>part of the public record, subject to any victim protecting

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<v Speaker 1>redactions authorized by the Act end quote. Now think about this, though,

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<v Speaker 1>these are documents quote in the possession of the government.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember these were grand jury materials.

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<v Speaker 1>So there is a very real likelihood that there is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a challenge to dislodge these materials in

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<v Speaker 1>any meaningful way to be able to discern information from them,

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<v Speaker 1>because they are held by the Trump DOJ. All of

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<v Speaker 1>that being said, that is not the end of the

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<v Speaker 1>fight when it comes to transparency. There was other news

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<v Speaker 1>an order that was entered just yesterday that deals with

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit that was brought by Epstein victims against the government,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically against the FBI for its failure to investigate, do anything,

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<v Speaker 1>especially after this information was provided by people like Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Farmer and by a woman named Andre Christiansen, a former

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<v Speaker 1>Playboy playmate who was living in the Hugh Hefner Playboy mansion,

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<v Speaker 1>told Hugh Hefner that she had been raped and trafficked

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<v Speaker 1>by Epstein. Hugh Hefner himself calling the FBI and repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>advising that she had been abused, raped, and trafficked by

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and the FBI did nothing. Those are the allegations

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<v Speaker 1>that are made by Christiansen. We know that Maria Farmer

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<v Speaker 1>decades ago let the FBI know what the hell was

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<v Speaker 1>going on, and they did nothing. And so this lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>asserts that the FBI failed these victim survivors in their inaction.

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<v Speaker 1>I went into great detail about all of this news

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<v Speaker 1>Insidebar Live. Take a listen. Okay, let's pull up this

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<v Speaker 1>order Sidney. Okay, this is fresh out of the Southern

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<v Speaker 1>District of Florida. People, here's some breaking news. Now what

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking not here is something called a report and

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<v Speaker 1>recommendation from a magistiate judge. Now you've heard me explain it,

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Fang News. You've got federal courts that have the

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<v Speaker 1>district court judges, and then you have these judges called

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<v Speaker 1>magistrate judges who are assigned to those district court judges.

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<v Speaker 1>And these mag judges, as we call them in short hand,

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<v Speaker 1>these mag judges take over some of the work that

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<v Speaker 1>the federal judges would do or could do. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know they're very busy handling stuff, right, and so this

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<v Speaker 1>report and recommendation you're looking at here was just entered

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<v Speaker 1>today in a federal court in Florida. And this lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>was brought by several Jane Does. They are victims of Epstein,

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell and others, and they sued the United States government because.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI failed them.

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<v Speaker 1>The allegations in this lawsuit is that the phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>and the reports were made I'm talking decades ago people

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<v Speaker 1>by somebody like Maria Farmer, one of the original reportees

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<v Speaker 1>of this abuse and of the crimes. Maria talked to

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI. The FBI told her we will look into this,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they did nothing. And then there was a

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<v Speaker 1>woman who was a Playboy playmate, and maybe you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>these headlines and you didn't understand what was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Her name is Odra Christiansen. She alleges that she too

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<v Speaker 1>was a victim of Jeffrey Epstein. She talked to a

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<v Speaker 1>man named Hugh Hefner. Do you remember Hugh Hefner, the

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<v Speaker 1>guy who was the Playboy magnet. I guess is what

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<v Speaker 1>we could call. So apparently Playboy playmate Odra Christiansen was

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<v Speaker 1>living in the Playboy mansion. She was sexually abused by

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein and trafficked to other men by Epstein. She was

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<v Speaker 1>so upset by what happened. She told that to Hugh Hefner.

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<v Speaker 1>Hefner said, Audra, report it to the FBI. She said, please,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Hefner, will you call the FBI in my behalf,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think that you have connections and clout and

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<v Speaker 1>that people would take it seriously if you were.

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<v Speaker 2>To do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we go, folks, Hugh Hafner, and look, I see

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<v Speaker 1>your comments. I'm not saying Hefner gets his angel's wings

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<v Speaker 1>at all. Let me be clear, but I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to listen to this carefully because this deals with the FBI. Ready,

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<v Speaker 1>Hugh Hefner called the FBI multiple times to report Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epsen to the FBI, and the FBI ignored it. Okay now,

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<v Speaker 1>for more than fifteen years, according to this lawsuit, the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI failed to investigate tips filed by Maria Farmer, Audra

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<v Speaker 1>Christiansen and others. Now, after Epstein dies mysteriously in twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 1>as we know, Christiansen again reached out to the FBI

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<v Speaker 1>to report that she had been raped by Epstein and

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<v Speaker 1>by a Hong Kong billionaire by the name of Stanley Hoe.

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<v Speaker 1>She also claimed to the FBI that she had been

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<v Speaker 1>trafficked for ten years. Do you think the FBI did

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<v Speaker 1>anything about it back in twenty twenty No. As we

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<v Speaker 1>sit here today as well, twenty twenty six, do you

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<v Speaker 1>think we think the FBI has done shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you want to get a little bit angrier about

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<v Speaker 1>them not doing anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>The FBI, in defending this lawsuit that has been brought

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<v Speaker 1>by these victims of Jeffrey Epstein, Maxwell and others, says,

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<v Speaker 1>too late, so sad, too bad. The FBI claims they're

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<v Speaker 1>not liable because these women should have called again to

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI.

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<v Speaker 2>The FBI said, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Know what, victims, you should have been on notice that

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't hear from us at the FBI, that

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<v Speaker 1>you should have been letting us know again. And guess what,

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<v Speaker 1>you dropped the timing ball. So your claims are now

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<v Speaker 1>time barred from being able to move forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Federal prosecutors defending this lawsuit, and by the way, kudos

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<v Speaker 1>to Julie Brown, one of my personal heroes.

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<v Speaker 2>But listen to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Federal prosecutors defending this lawsuit said that the victims must

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<v Speaker 1>have known about the Epstein crimes for years, given the

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<v Speaker 1>extensive media coverage, But because they failed to file their

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<v Speaker 1>claim against the FBI within a reasonable time span, their

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<v Speaker 1>lawsuit should be dismissed. Close your ears. Those that are

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<v Speaker 1>easily offended, are you fucking kidding me? Timely complaints are

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<v Speaker 1>filed with the FBI. We've seen some of those three

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<v Speaker 1>O twos, haven't we in the Epstein files that had

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<v Speaker 1>been publicly disclosed footnote not all of the handwritten FBI

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<v Speaker 1>interview notes that are a part of my lawsuit right now,

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<v Speaker 1>right in the prellminary injunction. But the FBI, I'm not surprised,

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<v Speaker 1>right if you guys think about it. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on brand for the Trump DOJ to take

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<v Speaker 1>the position that the victims should be doing more, that

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<v Speaker 1>the victims should be doing more. It's kind of similar

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<v Speaker 1>to this idea, like you know, when they're like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know these quote illegal aliens, Well, they should have

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<v Speaker 1>come here legally. What about all the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>here that do the legal process and then they get

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<v Speaker 1>their asylum or their temporary protective status or they don't

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<v Speaker 1>even you know, get to participate in the process, and

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<v Speaker 1>then they're deemed to be illegal, and then they get

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<v Speaker 1>their asses right round it up, deported, and maybe they

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<v Speaker 1>even die.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's the same idea, right, It's.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, oh, the victims, you should be doing more because

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<v Speaker 1>we're not going to do our own damn job, and

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<v Speaker 1>or we're just going to sit there and make it

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<v Speaker 1>more difficult for you to be able to do stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It's outrageous, people, It.

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<v Speaker 1>Truly is so thou now that you have the background,

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<v Speaker 1>are you ready that order that I was showing you.

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<v Speaker 1>What's so great about this order is it is denied

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<v Speaker 1>the FBI's motion to dismiss. The FBI filed a motion

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<v Speaker 1>to dismiss this lawsuit brought by these Epstein survivors, these victims.

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<v Speaker 2>Now listen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a reported recommendation, which means that the FBI can

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<v Speaker 1>quote like do like a mini appeal to the presiding

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<v Speaker 1>district court judge. But this is a well reasoned opinion

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<v Speaker 1>that it's been done by the magistrate judge.

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<v Speaker 2>And let me tell you something.

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<v Speaker 1>This this is important because if there's accountability to be had,

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<v Speaker 1>we have to find it every which way we can,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to pry that accountability out of the

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<v Speaker 1>cold dead hands of this Trump dj and this Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is yet another way of doing it.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, some more good news on the Epstein files Transparency

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<v Speaker 1>Front check this out. Just last week, a federal judge

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<v Speaker 1>in New York, her name is Loretta what's her last name,

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<v Speaker 1>dunt dund dum.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had it right here.

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<v Speaker 1>Loretta Presca, us district or Judge Loretta Presca ruled that

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<v Speaker 1>the late Virginia Gufrey's twenty fifteen civil lawsuit against Glenn

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell can be unsealed. She this federal judge has ordered

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<v Speaker 1>the public release of the files from Virginia's defamation lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>against Glenn Maxwell. Now, remember I mentioned Julie Brown a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of minutes ago. Well, let's mention her again, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's give her a amazing round of applause for her

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<v Speaker 1>tenacious reporting and for her and the Miami Herald local

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<v Speaker 1>journalism doing good fighting for the unsealing of this civil lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>To refresh uracollection, or perhaps to let you know what happened,

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Maxwell defamed Virginia Duffrey when Glenn Maxwell publicly stated

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<v Speaker 1>that Virginia Gufrey was a liar when she said that

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<v Speaker 1>she had been sexually abused and trafficked by Epstein and others.

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<v Speaker 1>And let me be clear, Virginia brought this defamation lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>all the way back in twenty fifteen. People, that's eleven

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, because Glaigne Maxwell publicly said Virginia is a

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<v Speaker 1>liar who had made up allegations of being sexually abused

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<v Speaker 1>by Epstein, Maxwell and other powerful men like Alan Dershowitz

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<v Speaker 1>and the former Prince Andrew. So, Virginia sued Glenn Maxwell

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<v Speaker 1>for defamation and as a part of that lawsuit, can

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<v Speaker 1>you imagine how specific and detailed the discovery was that

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<v Speaker 1>went back and forth from side to side. That lawsuit

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<v Speaker 1>settled in early of twenty seventeen. The former presiding judge

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<v Speaker 1>on that civil defamation lawsuit, who this guy's now dead.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Robert Sweet. He issued a blanket order

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<v Speaker 1>that sealed the entire documents because he said they were

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<v Speaker 1>too sensitive and private. He says, there's a protective order.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not going to let things like hearings, judicial decisions,

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<v Speaker 1>depositions and other evidence be released. But now, but now,

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<v Speaker 1>this other judge, Loretta Presca, says, because of the Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>Files Transparency Act, having been passed into law in November

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty five. This judge says that Epstein Files

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<v Speaker 1>Transparency Act trumps and I will use that pun all

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<v Speaker 1>the way to the successful end of my own lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 1>The Epstein File Transparency Act trumps any of these prior

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<v Speaker 1>protective orders or any of these blanket sealing orders that

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<v Speaker 1>came from this other judge who's now dead over this

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<v Speaker 1>defamation lawsuit. So all of this information can be released

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<v Speaker 1>to the public. But wait, let's talk about the details.

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<v Speaker 1>What I always say here at Katie fang New is

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<v Speaker 1>Judge Presca, up until now has been doing a victim

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<v Speaker 1>by victim evaluation of what should be released and what

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<v Speaker 1>name doesn't stay redacted? Does that kind of sound familiar

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<v Speaker 1>to you? You know what I am struggling with in

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<v Speaker 1>my own case that now Blanche has allowed people and

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<v Speaker 1>them to use lawyers to it to identify themselves as victims.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is why Blanche is redacting everybody's names from

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not talking about thousands of documents that are currently

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<v Speaker 1>this defamation lawsuit. We are talking documents that are a

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<v Speaker 1>that are held by the DOJ. So guess what's going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen Now we now get this order from Judge

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking almost a ninety one hundred thousand pages

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<v Speaker 1>they speak directly to the allegations. And remember we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this a lot here. Defamation is a very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>legal claim to make because when you sue somebody for defamation,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. And that is why you put at issue

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<v Speaker 1>the story. And so you can I can imagine the

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<v Speaker 1>nature of the discovery in this lawsuit the depositions, the interrogatories,

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<v Speaker 1>the production of documents, the communications. I mean, there is

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<v Speaker 1>some serious overlap here. Especially remember my lawsuit seeks the

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<v Speaker 1>production of the entirety of the Epstein Files as held

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<v Speaker 1>by the DOJ, and that would necessarily include these documents

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<v Speaker 1>that have now been ordered to be unsealed by Judge Presca.

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<v Speaker 1>So I foresee a battle on the imminent event horizon

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<v Speaker 1>with Todd Blanche and the DOJ. But you have the

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<v Speaker 1>power of another federal judge stating that the Epstein Files

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<v Speaker 1>Transparency Act, the purpose of it is to make this

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<v Speaker 1>of my lawsuit. It helps my lawsuit, folks. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am grateful for this order. I'm grateful for the continued

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<v Speaker 1>or reporting, and I want to just say again thank

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<v Speaker 1>you to jul Brown and the Miami Herald for pushing

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<v Speaker 1>for suing to get to get these records unsealed. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a basic tenet of journalism that the public deserves

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<v Speaker 1>to know the information in this type of lawsuit, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>with protections for victims that.

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<v Speaker 2>Are afforded those protections. But as Judge EMMITTT.

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<v Speaker 1>Sullivan said on Thursday, at the hearing that we went

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<v Speaker 1>to that status hearing in DC. The public and the

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<v Speaker 1>victims have the right to know what the hell is

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<v Speaker 1>going on in my case and now in this other

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<v Speaker 1>case that had been brought by the late Virginia Giuffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Katie Fang. Here, we launched the Katifang News Channel in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with the Midas Touch Network, so we could bring

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<v Speaker 1>can build a information America together. I want you to

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<v Speaker 1>consider this reporting from the New York Times because I

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<v Speaker 1>found it to be absolutely fascinating. There was no public

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<v Speaker 1>polling ahead of the Democratic primary for the United States

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<v Speaker 1>Senate seat in Florida that is currently held by incumbent

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<v Speaker 1>Republican Ashley Moody, and that Democratic primary last night resulted

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<v Speaker 1>in a huge, a huge upset by current Florida State

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Angie Nixon against alex Vinman. And I'm talking big,

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<v Speaker 1>big numbers for Angie Nixon. Now, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>labeling that's going into this announcement or this analysis, right

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<v Speaker 1>because Angie is a member of the Democratic Socialists of America.

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<v Speaker 1>But during our conversation I wanted to explore that with

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<v Speaker 1>her because for me, in my opinion, the labeling is

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<v Speaker 1>not helpful. In my opinion, we should be looking at

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<v Speaker 1>the candidate and the issues and the policies and the

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<v Speaker 1>positions that the candidate holds. And for somebody like Angie Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>who understands how hard it is to earn a dollar

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<v Speaker 1>and let that dollar stretch, she's somebody who understands the

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<v Speaker 1>value of affordability in the truest sense of the word.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to speak to Angie immediately after her

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<v Speaker 1>amazing win and talk about the prospects going into the

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<v Speaker 1>general election against Ashley Moody in November, and why going

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<v Speaker 1>back to what it really means to be a grass

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<v Speaker 1>roots campaigner, why that made sense for her joining me

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<v Speaker 1>now is the person that is going to be the

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<v Speaker 1>next United States Senator from the state of Florida. Angie Nixon,

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<v Speaker 1>first and foremost, congratulations on a race well run.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you so much for having me. I'm super excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, may I call you Angie, because look, I know

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<v Speaker 1>you technically have a title of state representative, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to be able to let the viewers know, Angie,

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<v Speaker 1>just how much hard work went into this incredible win.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stay on the numbers. The numbers are

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<v Speaker 1>so important here always. You secured at least fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the vote, and when it came to fundraising,

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<v Speaker 1>nine hundred and seventy five thousand versus Alex Vinman's sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>point three million, and you still pulled off the primary win.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we pulled off the primary win with old fashion organizing.

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<v Speaker 4>And what's important to know, we knew we were going

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<v Speaker 4>to win because we are organizers. We just didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>we were going to win by that much. Look, Katie, we

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<v Speaker 4>traveled all across the state of Florida, having conversations with

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<v Speaker 4>tens of thousands of Floridians from the Payhandle all the

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<v Speaker 4>way down to the Keys, and we had tough conversations

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<v Speaker 4>with people as well, folks who we didn't agree with ideologically.

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<v Speaker 4>But you know, at the end of those conversations, they

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<v Speaker 4>me that they respected me because I showed up and

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't run away from those conversations. And that's what

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<v Speaker 4>we need in the next United States senator. Too often,

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<v Speaker 4>many of our lawmakers, particularly unelected Ashley Moody, they won't

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<v Speaker 4>even have in person town hall meetings. She very rarely

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<v Speaker 4>goes on the news unless it's a favorable news organization

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<v Speaker 4>like Fox, and people don't want that. People want someone

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<v Speaker 4>who is accountable and will answer their question, someone who's transparent.

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm looking forward.

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<v Speaker 4>To being that type of person for them when I

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's consistent, it's who you are. You'll just have

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<v Speaker 1>it with a different title as you a senator. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is important. I want people to know this. Enerji,

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<v Speaker 1>did what we've always called grassroots. I think people have

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<v Speaker 1>think people use it as a throwaway term because look,

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<v Speaker 4>You are exactly right, and folks love that because they

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<v Speaker 4>crave community, especially in a time where we are so

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<v Speaker 4>disconnected via social media and people are going through a

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<v Speaker 4>lot right now. People are working harder than ever and

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<v Speaker 4>they are still struggling. And meanwhile you have folks like

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<v Speaker 4>less and less and they're getting richer. And so that

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<v Speaker 4>grassroots organizing is something that they understood. They saw me

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<v Speaker 4>when my tire split on the road. I told my

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<v Speaker 3>And that really resonated with folks.

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<v Speaker 4>They want someone who understands what they're going through. And me,

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So that's why we were able to do what

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<v Speaker 4>grit and I know about what it's like when I

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<v Speaker 4>had to decide whether or not I could afford my

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<v Speaker 4>make sure she had enough food to eat, And those

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<v Speaker 4>are decisions that people shouldn't have to make and there's

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<v Speaker 4>and it should never happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and let's be clear, number one, these poor economic

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<v Speaker 1>conditions are the fault of Republicans. And in Florida it

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<v Speaker 1>has been Republicans for decades now. We got governors that

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<v Speaker 1>are Republicans, we got state Senate that's run by Republicans,

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<v Speaker 1>we got a state legislator for our state reps run

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<v Speaker 1>by Republicans. Right, so, if there's anything going on in Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>it's Republican. And then you also have a what I

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<v Speaker 1>call the power trifecta on the federal level. You got

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<v Speaker 2>Which is why these conditions, even though.

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<v Speaker 1>We're all being effected regardless of our party affiliation, it's

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<v Speaker 2>They are entitled.

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<v Speaker 1>And for example, something like Ashley Moody, she never even

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<v Speaker 2>For the job that she has.

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<v Speaker 1>She was hand picked by Ron DeSantis to be able

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<v Speaker 4>And she was hand pied after she allowed ten million

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<v Speaker 4>medically needy kids, to actually be diverted to defeat two citizens.

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<v Speaker 4>We had ballot initiatives that we signed petitions to get

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<v Speaker 4>use money to make up lies about what it would

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<v Speaker 4>though an overwhelmingly big majority voted in favor of it.

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<v Speaker 4>And y'all, that is so corrupt. But I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 4>who Ashley Moody is. She also is the rubber stamp

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<v Speaker 4>and the water holder for Donald Trump, who is the biggest,

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<v Speaker 4>the biggest scammer in our country's history as a president.

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<v Speaker 4>And folks are tired of it. And so I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to going to Washington, d C. To provide every day,

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<v Speaker 4>impeach and I vote to remove Donald Trump and we

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<v Speaker 4>hold his administration accountable. I'm so excited, Katie. I'm really

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<v Speaker 4>looking forward to Ashley Moody calling me her senator.

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<v Speaker 2>Well me too.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the thing, Angie, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something because I think this is a really important part

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<v Speaker 1>I am over people getting too attached to a label. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm a Democrat, You're a Democrat. You technically, quote unquote,

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Socialists of America.

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<v Speaker 2>And I urge everybody to calm down.

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<v Speaker 1>Calm down, and I urge everybody to look beyond what

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<v Speaker 1>these labels are, because what's really important is finding out

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<v Speaker 1>what does somebody stand for and what do they fight for.

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<v Speaker 1>And as a mom of an eleven year old daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>as a business owner, that's where my priorities are.

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<v Speaker 2>Am I going to be able.

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<v Speaker 1>To afford healthcare for myself, my family, my aging mom?

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<v Speaker 1>Can I make sure that my taxes are affordable so

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<v Speaker 1>I can continue to have the American dream of owning

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<v Speaker 1>a home, running a business. Will my child be safe

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<v Speaker 1>when she goes to school from gun violence? Will there

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<v Speaker 1>be enough food and basic necessities that are at an

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<v Speaker 1>affordable price for no matter who you are across that

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<v Speaker 1>financial spectrum, these are the things that are priorities for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Unless so the labels. How important is it to unite

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<v Speaker 1>people going into the general election in November, Angie, behind

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<v Speaker 1>the person, not what somebody wants to label you.

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<v Speaker 3>It's very important to unite people just period. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's important for me to highlight that I

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<v Speaker 4>am a recent member of DSA as well as a

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<v Speaker 4>recent member of the Working Family Party. I joined those

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<v Speaker 4>organizations because they were organizations that were actually pushing for

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<v Speaker 4>medicare for all, right. They were pushing for universal childcare,

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<v Speaker 4>they were pushing for housing being a right of folks,

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<v Speaker 4>and unfortunately the Democratic Party was not always necessarily pushing

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<v Speaker 4>for that. And so I want to be perfectly clear.

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<v Speaker 4>The Democratic Party is supposed to be a big tint

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<v Speaker 4>of a lot of folks and a lot of thoughts,

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<v Speaker 4>and DSA and moderates and Conservative Democrats and liberals and whatever.

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<v Speaker 4>They should all be welcome under this big tint. That's

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<v Speaker 4>what makes us stronger. Our country is super diverse. It

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<v Speaker 4>makes we made up of different socioeconomic statuses, and so

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<v Speaker 4>that is how our party should be reflected as well. Look,

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that hard working, everyday people should get to

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<v Speaker 4>shape what their economies look like and what their communities

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<v Speaker 4>look like and as a big ten, we should want

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<v Speaker 4>this diverse thought and opinion so that we can actually

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<v Speaker 4>work towards building these beautiful multi racial, working class community

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<v Speaker 4>and country and state so that we can make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that everyone benefits and no longer just survives.

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<v Speaker 3>But we can thrive and always flourish.

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<v Speaker 1>You've been a state representative since twenty twenty and one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that was a remarkable act of courage was protesting

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<v Speaker 1>in Governor Ron DeSantis's office recently over the illegal jerrymandering

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<v Speaker 1>and redistricting efforts that have been plaguing the state of

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<v Speaker 1>Florida at the hands of Republicans.

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<v Speaker 2>And talk about why.

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<v Speaker 1>It was important enough for you to actually be there,

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<v Speaker 1>speaking up, speaking out. It ended up getting you arrested.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I feel like a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>talk the talk, but they certainly don't walk that walk

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to being committed to the ideas of

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<v Speaker 1>of real free speech, real protest and the bringing you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and highlighting the things that are the inequities that impact

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<v Speaker 1>all of us, because when you have this illegal gerrymandering

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<v Speaker 1>and redistricting, it's gonna affect your ability to vote. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we tell everybody, quote, we'll just go out and vote.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you can't even vote in a way where

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<v Speaker 1>your vote actually has value, then that defeats the purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 4>And so you know, we just have to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that we are talking to folks, we are uplifting them.

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<v Speaker 4>And look, democracy was under attack, Katie, it was. And

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<v Speaker 4>I could not sit idly by as a black woman

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<v Speaker 4>who had elders that are still alive that were protesting

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<v Speaker 4>and risking their lives for me to be able to

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<v Speaker 4>have the right to vote, for them to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to have the right to vote.

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<v Speaker 3>And as I.

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<v Speaker 4>Witnessed, you know, Ron Desanta's doing the bidding of Donald

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<v Speaker 4>Trump so that he could help ring maps. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 4>just sit there like democracy is literally falling and under attack.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not falling, they are attacking it. Our institutions are

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<v Speaker 4>under attack. And so now is not the time to

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<v Speaker 4>send strongly worded emails, Katie. Now is the time for

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<v Speaker 4>us instead of just going high when they go low,

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<v Speaker 4>Like First Lady Michelle Obama stated, we need to get

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<v Speaker 4>loud and we need to push back because if we don't,

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<v Speaker 4>they're gonna do a little bit and see what happens.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't say anything then it gets normalized and they

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<v Speaker 4>can do a little bit more. And what was just

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<v Speaker 4>normalized is like it's not a big deal, and so

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<v Speaker 4>they gonna keep going and keep going. And right now

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<v Speaker 4>it has to stop, Katie. People are struggling.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now.

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<v Speaker 4>There are parents that are killing their children because they're

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<v Speaker 4>so stressed out, and then they're taking their lives because

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<v Speaker 4>they lost jobs, right and like that's what Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 4>Donald Trump presidency has gotten us. I have seen so

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<v Speaker 4>many parents killing their babies because they just they're hurting.

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<v Speaker 4>Folks are hurting, and it doesn't have to be this way.

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<v Speaker 4>And I am going to fight like hell to make

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<v Speaker 4>sure that we stop it and we build a Florida

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<v Speaker 4>and an America that benefits us all.

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<v Speaker 1>One of your main campaign pillars is the idea of affordability,

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<v Speaker 1>and that includes the idea that we have free health

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<v Speaker 1>care Medicare for all, we have free childcare, a federal

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<v Speaker 1>minimum wage of at least twenty.

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<v Speaker 2>Five dollars per hour.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you say to critics that may say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds good, but how do you actually make it

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<v Speaker 1>happen financially. It's not like there's just this pot of

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<v Speaker 1>money that's available. There to be able to fund all

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<v Speaker 1>of these programs in these policies.

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<v Speaker 4>So number one, we're already paying the cost of Medicare

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<v Speaker 4>for all right now, paying that cost because there's so

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<v Speaker 4>many people that don't have any insurance and they're already

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<v Speaker 4>going to emergency rooms. And the government gets that bill,

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<v Speaker 4>we get left hold in the bag. And so we

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<v Speaker 4>can stop that from happening by going ahead and passing

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<v Speaker 4>universal healthcare Medicare for all. The only people KD that

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<v Speaker 4>don't want that to happen are these insurance companies because

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<v Speaker 4>they're mad that they won't be able to deny people's

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<v Speaker 4>claims so that they can make a larger profit.

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<v Speaker 1>And the billionaires that own the insurance companies.

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<v Speaker 4>Are not exactly KD exactly. And so these things are

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<v Speaker 4>a no brainer. Universal childcare. For every dollar the government spends,

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<v Speaker 4>it puts three dollars back into the economy because it

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<v Speaker 4>allows people to be able to get to work. And

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<v Speaker 4>so these are things that would benefit us all. And again,

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<v Speaker 4>the only folks that don't want it, like you said,

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<v Speaker 4>are these greedy billionaires and these corrupt corporations. And I

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<v Speaker 4>don't care about any of them. I care about every

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<v Speaker 4>day how are working people.

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<v Speaker 2>Angie Nixon.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to wrap up our conversation by quoting your

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<v Speaker 1>victory statement, we have seventy seven days to flip Florida blue,

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<v Speaker 1>win the Senate seat, and help take back the US Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>We cannot waste a single one. They tried to stop us.

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<v Speaker 1>We won anyway, Now we're coming for the US Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I don't want to call you a former

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<v Speaker 1>community organizer because in my mind, I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>always organizing, honey, but number one, but number two, I

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<v Speaker 1>think community organizers should be and are our politicians right,

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<v Speaker 1>They should be the people that represent us because they

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<v Speaker 1>understand the community best. So what is your message right

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<v Speaker 1>now to people that are watching this and listening to

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<v Speaker 1>this interview and saying, I'm in Florida. I care about

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<v Speaker 1>my kid, my neighbor, my family, people I haven't even met.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I'm a decent person who wants to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that there is a good, promising future for Floridians and

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<v Speaker 1>for Americans.

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<v Speaker 4>What I would say is they need to come on

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<v Speaker 4>and join our people Power campaign at Angie Nixon dot com.

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<v Speaker 3>Sign up to volunteer so that we can.

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<v Speaker 4>Expand our people powered infrastructure that's actually going to help

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<v Speaker 4>uplift our communities to a point where we are no

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<v Speaker 4>longer just surviving, but we're thriving and we're flourishing. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm looking forward to take building a new vision this

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<v Speaker 4>next two hundred and fifty years alongside these folks to build.

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<v Speaker 3>A Florida and an America for all.

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<v Speaker 1>Katie, power of the people, people over the profits. And

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<v Speaker 1>Angie Nickson, the next United States Senator from the great

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<v Speaker 1>state of Florida. It's good to see you. Congratulations and

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<v Speaker 1>we can't relent. Put the pedal to the metal on

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<v Speaker 1>this one. We got only a few days left between

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<v Speaker 1>now and November.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, thank you so much, Katie. Let's do you get

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<v Speaker 3>into existence.

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<v Speaker 2>Have a good day, absolutely, Katie Fang.

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<v Speaker 1>Here, we launched the Katifang News Channel in partnership with

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<v Speaker 1>the Midas Touch Network so we could bring you the

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<v Speaker 1>a high information America together. We've got some major developments

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<v Speaker 1>out of the criminal prosecution of journalists Don Lemon, Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>Fort and some incredible organizers in Minnesota that were protesting

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<v Speaker 1>the draconian immigration enforcement tactics by the Trump regime. Earlier

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<v Speaker 1>this year in Minneapolis Saint Paul, as you'll recall, several

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<v Speaker 1>people were indicted and charged with a conspiracy relating to

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<v Speaker 1>an incident that occurred at a local church. The allegations

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<v Speaker 1>being that people like Don Lemon, Georgia Fort and others

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<v Speaker 1>were intimidating and they were violating the Federals actually called

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<v Speaker 1>the FACE Act fac Act. The FACE Act stands for

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<v Speaker 1>the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act of nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>ninety four. It criminalizes the actions taken to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent or obstruct somebody from being able to gain

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<v Speaker 1>entry for a place that provides reproductive health services or

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<v Speaker 1>to a place where people go to exercise their First

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<v Speaker 1>Amendment right of religious freedom, like a place of religious worship,

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<v Speaker 1>or if you intentionally damage or destroy the property of

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<v Speaker 1>a facility that provides reproductive health services, or you intentionally

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<v Speaker 1>damage or destroy the property of a place of religious worship.

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<v Speaker 1>So these people were all alleged to have conspired to

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<v Speaker 1>do so earlier this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know.

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<v Speaker 1>That Don Lemon and Georgia Ford have been fighting back,

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<v Speaker 1>as have the other co defendants, But I want to

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<v Speaker 1>focus specifically on a motion that was filed by them

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago to be able to disclose the

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<v Speaker 1>grand jury proceedings because there has been a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>very bad, unconstitutional behavior by the Department of Justice prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>and other jurisdictions, including in Minnesota, concerning this particular prosecution.

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<v Speaker 1>So just yesterday a federal judge, Judge Laura Provenzeno in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>enter this order. It's entitled Order for in camera Review,

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<v Speaker 1>and what she has said is this, the Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice must turn over no later than August twenty fifth

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty twenty six, a copy of the transcripts and

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<v Speaker 1>a thumb drive of any multimedia evidence that will be

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<v Speaker 1>reviewed in chambers by the judge. And it's going to

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<v Speaker 1>cover the waterfront when it comes to the presentment of

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<v Speaker 1>evidence to the grand jury to obtain the indictment that

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<v Speaker 1>was entered and returned against Don Lemon, Georgia Ford, and

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<v Speaker 1>the other co defendants. This includes the presentation by the

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<v Speaker 1>Department of Justice attorneys and case agents to the grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury on January twenty ninth, twenty twenty six, resulting in

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<v Speaker 1>the indictment and the presentation by the Department of Justice

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<v Speaker 1>attorneys and case agents to the grand jury on February

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<v Speaker 1>twenty six, twenty twenty six, resulting in the superseding indictment.

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<v Speaker 1>The materials should comprise any introduction, legal instruction for the

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<v Speaker 1>two counts, witness testimony, and closing, including answers to questions

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<v Speaker 1>from the grand jurors. And that's an exact quote from

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<v Speaker 1>the judge's order. Now, how did this come to pass?

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<v Speaker 2>Well?

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<v Speaker 1>As I mentioned a few minutes ago, Don and Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>filed a motion to disclose the grand jury proceedings. But

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<v Speaker 1>what happens in a federal case is a magistrate judge,

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<v Speaker 1>who is a judge that works in tandem with a

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<v Speaker 1>district court judge. But if you had to look at

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<v Speaker 1>the hierarchy of things, it's the district court judge here

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<v Speaker 1>and then below is the magistrate judge. And oftentimes the

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<v Speaker 1>magistrate judge takes over listening to motions, maybe handling disputes,

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<v Speaker 1>over discovery, whatever, because the district court judge is very busy.

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<v Speaker 1>But again they work together, right, they are within the

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<v Speaker 1>same division.

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<v Speaker 2>So the magistrate.

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<v Speaker 1>Judge in this case Judge Douglas Mico, he denied Don

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<v Speaker 1>and and excuse me Don and Jorge's motion for disclosure

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<v Speaker 1>of the grand jury proceedings. Now, as it also works

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<v Speaker 1>in federal court, a report and recommendations is entered by

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<v Speaker 1>a magistrate judge or an order is entered by the

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<v Speaker 1>magistrate judge, and you, as a litigant, have the right

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<v Speaker 1>to object an appeal that magistrate judges findings to the

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<v Speaker 1>district court judge. So I'm going to repeat this again

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<v Speaker 1>for clarity. Let's say that the magistrate judge that is

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<v Speaker 1>assigned to your division in which your case is located

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<v Speaker 1>makes a ruling on an issue specifically here on whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not the great and Jury materials should be disclosed

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<v Speaker 1>to defendants Don Lemon and Georgia Ford. If you disagree

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<v Speaker 1>with what the magris Should judge decided, you can appeal

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<v Speaker 1>it to the district court judge. Now that is the

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<v Speaker 1>judge whose word is going to be the final word

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<v Speaker 1>in that court. Of course, you can try to appeal

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<v Speaker 1>that ultimately to an appeals court. But just for interests

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<v Speaker 1>of time and for interests of this conversation, we're focusing

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<v Speaker 1>just on the magris Should judge and the.

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<v Speaker 2>District court judge.

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<v Speaker 1>So the district court judge, Laura pardon me, Provenzeno gets

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<v Speaker 1>the objections to what this mag judge decided, and she says,

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<v Speaker 1>I actually need to look at all of the grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury materials to determine whether matri should Judge Miko's order

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<v Speaker 1>is appropriate. Makes sense, right, She says, give me everything,

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<v Speaker 1>because I need to decide whether or not the mag

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<v Speaker 1>judge made the right decision. And hey, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>this judge, Judge Miko, had actually previously said maybe a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of material can be disclosed, but this judge,

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<v Speaker 1>she says, uh uh, I want to see all of

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<v Speaker 1>this material now. I want to read to you some

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<v Speaker 1>portions of the objections that were filed at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of June by Don Lemon and Georgia Ford's lawyers to

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<v Speaker 1>this ruling by the magig judge who said, Nope, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't get your hands on the grand jury materials introduction

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<v Speaker 1>page one quote. There's substantial evidence of grand jury irregularities

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<v Speaker 1>in this case. Multiple judges, including at the Eighth Circuit,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the federal appeals court, found that there was

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<v Speaker 1>no probable cause to charge Lemon and fort A federal

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<v Speaker 1>agent fossely attested repeatedly to judges that Lemon and Fort

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in quote chanting inside the church, including to obtain

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<v Speaker 1>a search warrant for Lemon's iPhone, an allegation not originally

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<v Speaker 1>present in the denied complaint affidavit, and which was subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>revised in future affidavits to clarify that only quote some

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<v Speaker 1>individuals engaged in chanting. Another judge found no probable cause

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<v Speaker 1>for warrant seeking subscriber information from Lemen and Fort's YouTube channels,

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<v Speaker 1>and the government persuaded the grand jury to indict at

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<v Speaker 1>least one person, only to concede she was completely uninvolved

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<v Speaker 1>in the events. Meanwhile, the government emits to making material

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<v Speaker 1>misrepresentations about four and at least eight affidavits, but tellingly

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<v Speaker 1>refuses to confirm whether it repeated those falsehoods to the

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<v Speaker 1>Grand jury. Despite these glaring irregularities, or perhaps because of them,

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<v Speaker 1>the government has yet to produce all but one of

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<v Speaker 1>the Grand jury transcripts, even those plainly containing Brady material,

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<v Speaker 1>meaning material that is required to be turned over to

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<v Speaker 1>a defendant because it has exculpatory value, such of those

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<v Speaker 1>containing misstatements that led to the indictment of an innocent

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<v Speaker 1>person and the accusation that Lemon and Fort conspired with her.

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<v Speaker 1>Given this prosecution's checkered history, Lemon and Fort respectfully asked

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<v Speaker 1>if the court reviewed the grand jury proceedings to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>no further improper conduct occurred. The grand jury is not

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<v Speaker 1>merely an investigative tool of the prosecution. It is also

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<v Speaker 1>a protector of citizens against arbitrary and oppressive government action

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<v Speaker 1>and unfounded criminal prosecutions. There is every indication that the

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<v Speaker 1>government prohibited the grand jury from playing that pivotal role here.

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<v Speaker 1>Review of those proceedings is therefore warranted. And that, my friends,

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<v Speaker 1>is how you practice law. And that is what was

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<v Speaker 1>presented to the federal judge and that resulted in her

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<v Speaker 1>entering this order yesterday demanding that the Trump Department of

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<v Speaker 1>Justice turn over the entirety of the grand jury materials,

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<v Speaker 1>including transcripts, and including any type of multimedia evidence, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a power point, and other evidence that was presented to

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<v Speaker 1>this grand jury to convince them to return a true

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<v Speaker 1>bill indictment against Don Lemon, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 2>Ford, and the other defendants in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing and to do process point, which is

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<v Speaker 1>where I live in a courtroom. Everybody gets somebody whose

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<v Speaker 1>Medicare process is about thirty five claims every second, over

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<v Speaker 1>a billion a year, and when yours comes back tonight

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<v Speaker 1>or the bill is wrong, nobody inside that system has

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<v Speaker 1>the job of arguing for you. A clean claim clears

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<v Speaker 1>in about two weeks. One dispute and you're sixty days

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<v Speaker 1>in on hold up again, something counting on you to

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<v Speaker 1>just give up and pay it for me. That's troubling.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's what I want you to know about Chapter.

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<v Speaker 1>part almost nobody knows. Once you've chosen a plan, you'll

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<v Speaker 2>Now, I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Also turn back the hands of time a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the original motion that was filed by

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<v Speaker 1>Don Lemon and Georgia Ford to get their hands on

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<v Speaker 1>these grand jury proceedings, because there's some allegations contained within

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<v Speaker 1>that motion that are powerful, and it just highlights exactly

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<v Speaker 1>how far and how low the Trump doj will go

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to go after political opponents of Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>simply because he's asking them.

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<v Speaker 2>To do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in February of this year, Don and Georgia's lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>filed this motion to disclose the grand jury proceedings, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm on page eighteen of thirty two of this motion.

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<v Speaker 1>It's entitled the sections entitled the substantial Likelihood that the

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<v Speaker 1>government carried gross misrepresentations and material issues of fact and

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<v Speaker 1>law into the grand jury preceding Warren's disclosure of the

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<v Speaker 1>grand jury materials. This is another way of saying that

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<v Speaker 1>the prosecutors who went into that grand jury room made

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<v Speaker 1>such egregious misrepresentations of material issues of fact and law

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<v Speaker 1>that that would be the only way that these grand

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<v Speaker 1>jurors could return an indictment against Don and Georgia. So

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<v Speaker 1>because of that action, and because of the extraordinary scent

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<v Speaker 1>of events that led to this indictment. Even coming into fruition,

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<v Speaker 1>it calls into question the validity of the indictment, and

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<v Speaker 1>the federal rules allow disclosure of grand jury materials when

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<v Speaker 1>they are quote needed to avoid a possible injustice in

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<v Speaker 1>another judicial proceeding. Don and George's sought disclosure of these

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<v Speaker 1>grand jury transcripts to determine if the grand jury's probable

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<v Speaker 1>cause determination was based on the same inaccurate or misleading

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<v Speaker 1>representations that the government is making publicly, which would cast

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<v Speaker 1>great doubt that the decision to indict them was free

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<v Speaker 1>from substantial influence of these violations.

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This motion also cites to the fact that not only

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<v Speaker 1>was the Department of Justice making public statements that were

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<v Speaker 1>wrong on the law when it comes to the Face Act,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was a very real risk that will be

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed by these grand jury transcripts, that these DOJ lawyers

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<v Speaker 1>are presenting the wrong law and it sounds like the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong facts to the grand jury to convince them to

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<v Speaker 1>indict Dawn and Georgia. They gave an example in this

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<v Speaker 1>motion that I wanted to make sure that we remembered

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<v Speaker 1>back in November of twenty twenty five, a federal judge

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<v Speaker 1>in the Eastern District of Virginia granted former FBI Director

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<v Speaker 1>James Commey's request to be able to access all of

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury materials. Remember when he was indicted for

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<v Speaker 1>some BS allegations of mortgage fraud and all that other stuff, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he sought the same relief there. He wanted access to

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<v Speaker 1>the grand jury materials, including the transcript of the grand

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<v Speaker 1>jury proceedings when no witness was present, because the indictment

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<v Speaker 1>that was returned against him was f and nuts, and

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<v Speaker 1>a magister judge said, yeah, I agree, I'm gonna give

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<v Speaker 1>it to you. And I remember eventually that was a

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay Halligan special right, and this insurance Lauryer Lindsay Halligan.

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<v Speaker 1>It was found by a judge that she was invalidly

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<v Speaker 1>and illegally appointed as the acting US Attorney for the

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern District of Virginia, So that indictment against Comy, in

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<v Speaker 1>the indictment against his James gone. But it was important

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<v Speaker 1>to remember that there was such bad irregularities and bad

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<v Speaker 1>conduct by the DOJ that a judge says, absolutely, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>turning over these records to James Comy. The Court's reasoning

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<v Speaker 1>in Comy applies with egal force to down in Virginia,

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<v Speaker 1>including the Court's concerns that quote statements by their prosecutors

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<v Speaker 1>to the grand jurors on their face appeared to be

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental misstatements of the law that could compromise the integrity

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<v Speaker 1>of the grand jury process. The motion goes on to

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<v Speaker 1>cite that in this case, if you'll recall, the doj

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<v Speaker 1>tried to get this indictment, couldn't get it. Then they

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<v Speaker 1>tried to strong arm the chief judge of this district

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<v Speaker 1>to do it, couldn't do it. Then they went above,

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<v Speaker 1>went to the Eighth Circuit Court of Appeals to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's like, whoa piece of the hell out, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing here? You can't do this. And eventually

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<v Speaker 1>they secured a grand jury indictment against Georgia Don and

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<v Speaker 1>the other defendants. But it was just so irregular, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was outrageous, the pressure campaign and the conduct that

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<v Speaker 1>was done by these federal prosecutors just to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to satisfy the lust and the need to punish of

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<v Speaker 1>somebody like convicted vollon Donald Trump. We all know it rots.

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<v Speaker 1>It stinks and it's really bad. And the reality is

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<v Speaker 1>you now have people that are having to pay attorney's

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<v Speaker 1>fees and have to go through the stress, anxiety, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole pressure of having to be prosecuted illegally and unfairly.

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<v Speaker 1>So this ask by Don Lemon and Georgia Fort is

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly reasonable because the allegations in the grand jury indictment

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<v Speaker 1>against Don and Georgia Fort are almost exactly total mirrors

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<v Speaker 1>of the allegations in the original affidavit when the judge

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<v Speaker 1>found no probable cause to arrest them.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So think about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there is a law, and the law militates towards

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<v Speaker 1>protecting grand jury proceedings their secrecy and confidentiality.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's not absolute.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you, as a defendant, can show that and

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<v Speaker 1>meet the burden that your need for these wreckords outweighs

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<v Speaker 1>this idea of preserving grand jury secrecy, then yes, you

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<v Speaker 1>can get your hands on these grand jury records. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's exactly the case here, at least at this point. No,

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<v Speaker 1>let me be clear, it's not like Don and Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>and the others are going to get their hands on

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<v Speaker 1>the Grandeur materials right now. The presiding District Court judge says,

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<v Speaker 1>give me all of the materials Trump Department of Justice,

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<v Speaker 1>and I will decide whether the magigate judge appropriately ruled

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<v Speaker 1>to deny Don and Georgia their access to these materials.

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<v Speaker 2>It is good news.

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<v Speaker 1>For the rule of law. And look, there's always so

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<v Speaker 1>much going on these days. It's hard to keep track

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<v Speaker 1>of everything. But you and I both know that this

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<v Speaker 1>criminal prosecution is always top of mind for people like

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<v Speaker 1>Lemon and Georgia Ford and the other people that were

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<v Speaker 1>unfairly and unconstitutionally and illegally indicted in this case. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is the reason why we have to stay on

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<v Speaker 1>be outraged, demand accountability. That is exactly what Don and

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<v Speaker 1>Georgia are doing when they are seeking these grand jury records.

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