Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back. Thank you very much for
Speaker 1: joining me. My name is Staborah hatswell, and you're listening
Speaker 1: to BBR Investigations tonight. I am sharing with you a
Speaker 1: chart that I had with a gentleman named Barry who's
Speaker 1: from the Cheshire area, and we discuss paranormal bloodlines and
Speaker 1: our connection to our ancestors, and some have very strange
Speaker 1: experiences and how hard it is to deal with frustration
Speaker 1: and the rage that comes after a traumatic event, regardless
Speaker 1: of what that event is. I believe many people have
Speaker 1: to carry emotions and feelings not ours, and we don't
Speaker 1: understand them as children, and we have to carry them
Speaker 1: into our teens and adult years. Combine that with human's
Speaker 1: ability to absorb their surroundings and the emotions of others
Speaker 1: without ever knowing that you are a sponge soaking up
Speaker 1: all manner of enerture, whether that be negative or positive.
Speaker 1: During the interview, we were both moved to tears. We
Speaker 1: were sharing some emotive experiences and you will hear that
Speaker 1: as we speak and I will put it out. The
Speaker 1: interview may be hard to listen to at times, because
Speaker 1: Barret is real living events that still hold confusion and
Speaker 1: pain for him. I encouraged him to let the emotion
Speaker 1: out as he shared his paranormal experiences, effect that they've
Speaker 1: found him, and with chat about how rage and frustration
Speaker 1: of guilt from trauma, any trauma, regardless of what it is,
Speaker 1: can also be changed to absolution and deliverance. Barris had
Speaker 1: two near death experiences when he was even born and
Speaker 1: where he was saved by unseen hands, and on both
Speaker 1: of those occasions he was fine. He's seen the shadow
Speaker 1: being Enterity in his room after an attachment. Last year
Speaker 1: during COVID Burried, he and his partner had a terrifying
Speaker 1: experience when something crushed its way through the trees as
Speaker 1: it went from four legs up to two right up
Speaker 1: to the back door of the car. And we discuss
Speaker 1: the ever ending battle between negative and positive energy, good
Speaker 1: versus evil, and how our beliefs, still regardless of what
Speaker 1: they are, can be an answer to our troubles and
Speaker 1: the path forward. I have a listen to what Barry
Speaker 1: has to say and I'll catch up with you at
Speaker 1: the end.
Speaker 2: Of It's your perception of things that way the rest
Speaker 2: of the world.
Speaker 3: Do I see what you understand? What you are going
Speaker 3: through because you know, you're just a child, did you
Speaker 3: fin you with that? So from the beginning, so weird
Speaker 3: things are always.
Speaker 2: Have around as a young boy, and not just around me,
Speaker 2: around my cousins and stuff too as well. So they
Speaker 2: they had a lot more.
Speaker 3: Strange interactions than I would say I.
Speaker 2: Did any in the early years. Whatever happing was going
Speaker 2: on with me was always using alone at night, strange
Speaker 2: all the time.
Speaker 3: I wake up from a sleep when I was a
Speaker 3: young boy, yeah, under the age of seven, and I
Speaker 3: would wake up when it would be as we to
Speaker 3: describe a bit was inside like a spait.
Speaker 2: Of static, and it was always.
Speaker 3: It was almost like fractal shape colored static, always be around.
Speaker 2: Me, like a space, like a sphere around me when
Speaker 2: a wake up, and.
Speaker 3: It was the most uncomfortable feeling of what was on
Speaker 3: the opposite side of the sphere, almost like it was
Speaker 3: a bubble of protection my mum's as it was very
Speaker 3: little and was.
Speaker 2: Quite traumatic, a break up, a lot of violence.
Speaker 3: And I think that triggered something I was very little,
Speaker 3: talking two years old, maybe bloodshed, anger and rage. When
Speaker 3: they split up, I started to talk to something that
Speaker 3: wasn't there.
Speaker 2: He's got it from imaginary friends and whatever.
Speaker 3: Well guess that's really when it all sort of started
Speaker 3: a little bit odd for me to become fear all
Speaker 3: of my.
Speaker 2: Jack in a box and my.
Speaker 3: Clowns, heavies and understanding. I used to like them and
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden fear over all of these things.
Speaker 3: So my mum and her mum and stuff were give
Speaker 3: a quite a spiritual stuff. You have tyching readings.
Speaker 2: These things, but they're not badly people. When people put
Speaker 2: off I don't believe in you know, my e lives
Speaker 2: quite often if this happened a.
Speaker 3: Munple times, they go off these regions stuff, and I always
Speaker 3: come back and saying that their children not.
Speaker 2: Just my brother Bo and my cousins.
Speaker 3: But sensitive because my cousins are also my half brothers.
Speaker 3: My dad was sleeping with my mum's systems, so it's
Speaker 3: something from his sides as well. There's something to do
Speaker 3: with my mum's side as well. Ms The names Lewis
Speaker 3: Soot on one side and heine As was my mum's
Speaker 3: father's side, which is Germanic right, she can be Gramatic,
Speaker 3: but it's more Old English as well. But on my
Speaker 3: father's side it's Robinson which his son of Robin, which goes.
Speaker 2: From Germanic and thought.
Speaker 3: It roots with them, became scotch Irish and then became
Speaker 3: English all the time. Bloodlines family not ancient even everall
Speaker 3: which is a very.
Speaker 2: Old, old old English name.
Speaker 3: So I think it's something to do with genetics more
Speaker 3: than anything.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think it comes from our ancestors.
Speaker 2: M hmsly.
Speaker 3: I've got a bit of research into this, mysel, and
Speaker 3: strong indications that it's something to do with the lost tribes.
Speaker 3: Is where we where we come from, especially on the
Speaker 3: nor Gramanic side, which is probably the Danites or the
Speaker 3: dan or the lost.
Speaker 2: Tribe of Dan to offer the dan and all the
Speaker 2: same thing.
Speaker 3: People don't get this, so the Danish or the Danish
Speaker 3: London not London. It was Danish, not Danish. So on
Speaker 3: the Danube River they sort of Telvics not It was
Speaker 3: used to Europe for a long time. So I've been
Speaker 3: doing a little research into family history, heritage. I haven't
Speaker 3: had any blood test. I want all that stuff on fire,
Speaker 3: so my cousin is coming. They would always see entities
Speaker 3: in their bedroom.
Speaker 2: There was a woman on top of the boardrobe exercise
Speaker 2: and it was a man a long black coat.
Speaker 3: The black super black top part and the sort of
Speaker 3: Van Dyke style go tea mustache and enjoy stood in.
Speaker 2: The room and I always tell the parents, but the
Speaker 2: parents didn't believe it.
Speaker 3: They're still youngest cousin Robert came along and he started
Speaker 3: to talk about it as well, and he went to
Speaker 3: my nines one day and he sat down and.
Speaker 2: I've got full while marsh look appearance, you're finally right
Speaker 2: as my great grandu guide before I was born, and
Speaker 2: the eldest grand children you'd be coming to visit them.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Nice. So this was kind of right, pretty well established
Speaker 3: quite early on that we were all having odd experiences
Speaker 3: young childhood.
Speaker 2: But it all kind of hes offered gving it about
Speaker 2: the age of seven or age. Since you've lived at
Speaker 2: basically every.
Speaker 3: Seven years, you may be selling your body regenerates, and
Speaker 3: since he's a cycle of life, they'll be selling your
Speaker 3: body regenerates. You are literally a new person every seven
Speaker 3: years in physical so you know, at age seventeen seventy,
Speaker 3: it's almost like the first vale that's put over here
Speaker 3: exactly bet understanding fourteen second bale and the alder you get,
Speaker 3: the more.
Speaker 2: Bails with them.
Speaker 3: This is how I understand it.
Speaker 1: Does it kick back in when you were about fourteen fifty?
Speaker 1: Did it kick back in a guess?
Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah. There was always an entity in my room
Speaker 2: at night, always in the corner. And it wasn't just
Speaker 2: made a sort of friends had seen it. It was
Speaker 2: always every night.
Speaker 3: But between the building wardrobe and the window there's only
Speaker 3: a gap of how you know, you know.
Speaker 2: We're talking about ninety fifty council houses. It was only
Speaker 2: a gap of fIF six inches between.
Speaker 3: The world and the window, and whatever would hear there
Speaker 3: was much darker than the shadow should have been, almost hooded,
Speaker 3: cloat like he was wearing a ahooded robe essentially, as
Speaker 3: the best way to describe it. Was always stood the
Speaker 3: same place, never moved.
Speaker 1: Was he hiding? Is what he was from you?
Speaker 2: Yeah? It was used. He was always he was actually
Speaker 2: wasn't always there, and usually whatever.
Speaker 3: Would manifest shadow was too big to be the natural
Speaker 3: end that would be cast in that corner. And I
Speaker 3: just me and my brother and a friend who stayed
Speaker 3: over a few times and noticed that, and he says
Speaker 3: that company.
Speaker 2: When you know someone in the corner of the room
Speaker 2: where things happened like get the call.
Speaker 3: You know, cos goes draft and opening doors. And I
Speaker 3: shook the living door he had click pulled the handle
Speaker 3: to know it was shut, making screaming at the door,
Speaker 3: and then the doors open up and it wasn't the
Speaker 3: draft actually the handles.
Speaker 2: It as a very big saying for my brothers. Strange
Speaker 2: things that, yes, always happened. That's I should be, that's
Speaker 2: the best. But they fell from a tree. When I
Speaker 2: was one boy, I was about ten. I was living
Speaker 2: in northward of the time in fields. I was with
Speaker 2: my brother a few of the friends in the back
Speaker 2: of the river day where you live.
Speaker 3: And behind the back of the old house. I was
Speaker 3: basically just like the slope run down down to the
Speaker 3: field down to the river. We bushes and trees, and
Speaker 3: we were in the tree behind the back of my
Speaker 3: friend's house and I climbed up this it's like a
Speaker 3: bush sense they were growing so big and also high
Speaker 3: house from slope. I climbed up, me in steam of
Speaker 3: it and being a little monkey that it was at
Speaker 3: like ten years old, it looked like it looked higher
Speaker 3: and higher until I got too high that the branch
Speaker 3: started to bend over and couldn't get back.
Speaker 2: So it was a sly upside down upside down on
Speaker 2: a tree, and then as an upside down.
Speaker 3: And see there's someone that basically look up an old
Speaker 3: slam pole.
Speaker 2: Thirty inches of steel. That was I knew it was
Speaker 2: gonna die and falling and slept and falling, and I'm
Speaker 2: freshening the air and from my slow motion and just
Speaker 2: pushed the right of my side, move move the an
Speaker 2: my body.
Speaker 1: That emotion is okay, let it out, don't pep holding
Speaker 1: it in, letty out. Just let it out and.
Speaker 2: Steep and moved me change anles fell and this.
Speaker 4: Piece of steel just grazed my side, came to sweet
Speaker 4: my arm and body should have missed me and one
Speaker 4: It's sort of it's like my whole body was landed
Speaker 4: in time on this tongurete, so.
Speaker 2: No one area got impacted. It's almost like hits it level.
Speaker 3: It's not hard way to describe it. None of my
Speaker 3: limbs were touched before this biggest ball of tongue.
Speaker 2: He was the boy. I was stretched perfectly over it.
Speaker 2: It's not the wind that I mean.
Speaker 3: And every bone in my body cracked and the I
Speaker 3: got with no engines about the breeze on my side
Speaker 3: and I couldn't describe it into the stayble.
Speaker 2: All remember is that the hands the first time, I
Speaker 2: mean yea, or when it was the bit of barn
Speaker 2: when I was about eleven. And there's some woods behind
Speaker 2: the school there. We've got pump house woods on Google Maps.
Speaker 3: Used to call it the school that sused to camping
Speaker 3: there the summer, maybe some holidays, groups of.
Speaker 2: Us winning take ten and just like that the fire
Speaker 2: would make a show and we're just sleep in the day. Yeah.
Speaker 2: From the nineties it was great.
Speaker 3: And once some holidays, but a friend of mine died
Speaker 3: a few months he hung himself.
Speaker 2: He was about thirteen. Following the time it was so
Speaker 2: at ninety ninety seven, yeah.
Speaker 3: Something, And we made the zipline in the woods so
Speaker 3: as the biggest trees and the wes that blue night
Speaker 3: a lot of washing. So we climbed up and was
Speaker 3: like coming into the fig of two houses where this
Speaker 3: tree were in the zipninely down to another tree.
Speaker 2: On the forest floor where the tree that fell.
Speaker 3: So the zipline overshot the tree that fell. You know,
Speaker 3: he's tied to the three further back and there was
Speaker 3: like a badger set or something past the tree where
Speaker 3: he tied it onto. You see all the sand of
Speaker 3: bin up excavated by badges or farm.
Speaker 2: The first out at the bottle of what I made
Speaker 2: and put.
Speaker 3: It inside this badger whole yeah stick and a friend
Speaker 3: who killed himself.
Speaker 2: His brother turned up in the woods later on and
Speaker 2: he seems working for me. And a prend jowl both
Speaker 2: scrambled up the tree and were lucky for me. I
Speaker 2: was the first one in the time. I mean, I
Speaker 2: thought lucky for me. I show off. But we had
Speaker 2: like a lanyard on it. It was like it was
Speaker 2: that heavy duty material with a lanyard. Clicked the lanyard
Speaker 2: and run along the main branches. Jumped out of the
Speaker 2: tree and as I judged a few meters out and
Speaker 2: I felt it as it snap as the landed but
Speaker 2: snatty and I started moving. It starts.
Speaker 3: As he snaps and turned in the air and going
Speaker 3: face first and down towards the ground, and everything slowed down.
Speaker 3: I knew I was going to die because I could
Speaker 3: see I was falling towards the failing three head first.
Speaker 3: I was going to spare it and break my neck.
Speaker 3: I knew I was going to happen.
Speaker 2: I just knew that more.
Speaker 5: I'm dead.
Speaker 3: As I'm following everyone like I can see the shot
Speaker 3: them up on the faces as it goes.
Speaker 2: I remember is two hands nowhere from above me, naps
Speaker 2: around me. One of my.
Speaker 1: Yeah turned out my waist and.
Speaker 2: It didn't stop it from further. It just slowed my descent,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, in the air. It made
Speaker 2: me overshoot the.
Speaker 3: Log and you want a million chance I would head
Speaker 3: first into that badger whole had that bottle of live aid,
Speaker 3: and he went into the whole. Spirit of the ark
Speaker 3: store was at my feet, presentially arms.
Speaker 2: Over my back when the sand gave away and basically
Speaker 2: come out of them. And that was screwed. And I
Speaker 2: I told me one though, and I suppose I can
Speaker 2: even weeks. Yeah, somehow I.
Speaker 3: Sup Everyone's like you're you're two step twelve step part collapse.
Speaker 2: And my pes and I couldn't say something on I
Speaker 2: felt that these warm.
Speaker 3: Hands were massive as well. They were not step big hands.
Speaker 3: He's like three or four times the size of his hands.
Speaker 3: They were abnormally large.
Speaker 2: They were huge. They with gigantic hands that I could
Speaker 2: feel them. They were warm. I could feel that when
Speaker 2: when I was hanging on me and protection safety. But
Speaker 2: I don't have to describe it. No.
Speaker 1: I know it's hard, isn't it.
Speaker 3: That's when it really like that first time I felt
Speaker 3: from achievement was young. I kind of put the harm
Speaker 3: in my mind after this happened, and there was a
Speaker 3: lot of people and my best friend was my bro
Speaker 3: in his best mate, I'm one of my other best
Speaker 3: friend and.
Speaker 2: His brother who passed away.
Speaker 3: They didn't see the hands, so I didn't see hands.
Speaker 3: He was just feel the things that was I mean, rechards,
Speaker 3: your angels. I don't know it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I put that out in my mind for
Speaker 2: a long time, but he keeps coming back to me.
Speaker 1: It's trauma. And how do you explain that as a
Speaker 1: child when you grow up like me on a council
Speaker 1: estate with all your mates, and like, how do you
Speaker 1: have that discussion? It's not it's not something you can
Speaker 1: just bring up, is it when you're playing Wally or
Speaker 1: something like that? Trying to explain all that. I think
Speaker 1: if your children, I think we learned to disassociate.
Speaker 3: Like I know what it felt like to me.
Speaker 2: I was falling into something slowed my fall and changed
Speaker 2: my trajectory and I can't deny it. It was almost
Speaker 2: like it shooped me up as it was falling from
Speaker 2: the air and kind of.
Speaker 3: Shuck me forward in a way. I don't know how
Speaker 3: use to describe it. So je me past I was
Speaker 3: going to die, and I brought my neck and back
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be and I knew what was coming. And
Speaker 3: you know, it's like all there were things that happened.
Speaker 2: I mean, I've forgotten more now remember of a lot
Speaker 2: of things that it was so much.
Speaker 3: In the way of events, things that moved around the house,
Speaker 3: especially when either child myself and the daughter, whether it
Speaker 3: was nineteen and a huge, a little over the big
Speaker 3: voices over the baby monitor, like someone is in the
Speaker 3: room singing nursery rives to her.
Speaker 2: I mean most of the time she'd be asleep and
Speaker 2: it was like there's someone in there singing to it.
Speaker 3: And I was thinking all the time, its interferous wing.
Speaker 3: But actually, when I was listening to this nursery rhyme,
Speaker 3: it's not like anything ever heard in my life.
Speaker 2: It's it was something old, yeah, than any any of
Speaker 2: our old nursery rhymes that we've seen.
Speaker 3: It's seen something before my time, something before the time
Speaker 3: of those who sang nursery rhymes something.
Speaker 2: It was old wherever it was, and the boys sounded off.
Speaker 3: Baby bottles and fly off the kitchen side glass things
Speaker 3: like that's also just fly.
Speaker 2: Off the kitchen side.
Speaker 1: You got to see the kids, you've got to have
Speaker 1: a normal relationship, and you've got all of that going
Speaker 1: on around your you know. And I think it's easier
Speaker 1: for women to say their experiences if I don't think
Speaker 1: it's like that for men. I think it's much harder.
Speaker 5: Oh, we live in a time where we're convinced, where
Speaker 5: we're being told that myth and all this sort of
Speaker 5: myth and all that stuff, it's all just in your imagination,
Speaker 5: and it's it's like we've been programmed to not see
Speaker 5: or acknowledge these things anymore.
Speaker 3: With our re education system. The whey we have been
Speaker 3: broken down and build back up to. I guess you
Speaker 3: live in a different vibration to not perceive the perceivable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we shadows of what we should be, you know,
Speaker 1: we shadows. We shut down at birth. It shut us
Speaker 1: down at birth because if people understood how powerful they
Speaker 1: actually were, and we celebrated that and played to those
Speaker 1: those skills that you have would be very different human
Speaker 1: beings if we were told as children. We don't know
Speaker 1: why this is happening, but I believe you. I understand.
Speaker 1: I saw it myself as a kid. I think it
Speaker 1: would be different for us going forward. You know, I'd
Speaker 1: love that for everybody where it was just a normal
Speaker 1: conversation that you can have. You know, this shit's happening around.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing it in the kids. I'm seeing it in
Speaker 1: the grand kids, because that's the thing. You'll watch your
Speaker 1: own go through it and then there's nothing you can do.
Speaker 1: And then you've got to watch your grandkids go through
Speaker 1: it as well, you know, and then you think, well,
Speaker 1: their kids are going to go through it, aren't they.
Speaker 3: What I'm worried about trying to break the cycle of things.
Speaker 3: I've always been a great person times, and I'm a
Speaker 3: much better man than I am now, But I was
Speaker 3: always very self destructive.
Speaker 2: And I said that my parents, like my moment and
Speaker 2: mynn and my cousin is mum.
Speaker 3: We go to psychics and the spiritual mediums and stuff,
Speaker 3: and they can both come back.
Speaker 2: Seeing hildren Gift, I believe that had the ability to
Speaker 2: see stuff. Cousins, But I don't think me the same ability.
Speaker 1: It's different for everyone. It's eating everyone of us. It's different.
Speaker 3: We all have.
Speaker 1: I mean, people call it the gift, don't they, But
Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes it's a it's a blessing, and sometimes it's.
Speaker 2: Mine. I'll tell you what I feel other people's pain.
Speaker 1: I was going to suggest that to you, that you
Speaker 1: feel emotion, I would imagine you take on everything when
Speaker 1: you walk into a room, carry a lot of rage,
Speaker 1: or carried a lot of rage because you don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can read between the lines what people are saying.
Speaker 2: That someone can say something to me, I don't know
Speaker 2: what you really mean.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean. It's it's hard because people
Speaker 3: want and somehow nimitated to how they're feeling, and they
Speaker 3: can tell you. You know, it's been you a yarn
Speaker 3: to trying to brush off what's going on inside. And
Speaker 3: I always know what's going on. So I think that's
Speaker 3: where my curse or gift is being able to read
Speaker 3: the unreadable that.
Speaker 1: Tells me you're a really good person, because your first
Speaker 1: start was that you didn't want to intrude on that
Speaker 1: person's emotion, where someone who was negative would think I
Speaker 1: could use this to my advantage.
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't understand that I can use it
Speaker 2: to my advantage.
Speaker 3: I tried to use it to the advantage to help
Speaker 3: the people who mean rather than.
Speaker 2: Have people. I don't want to advantage over people.
Speaker 1: No, I know, I can see, I can feel it
Speaker 1: in your energy and everything. What you've got is a confusion.
Speaker 1: If somebody could have set you down at age four
Speaker 1: and gone right, this is what happens in our family, yeah,
Speaker 1: and told you all of the things that they'd experienced
Speaker 1: going forward, you'd be like, oh, this makes sense. Mum
Speaker 1: talked about this, or Dad talked Their generations were very different.
Speaker 1: It was you go out to my Mum and me,
Speaker 1: Nan and the Aunties. They all get dolled up and
Speaker 1: they got a spiritualist and they come back. But if
Speaker 1: anything happened in the house or Nan saw something or
Speaker 1: Mum saw something, we weren't allowed to talk about it outside.
Speaker 1: It was like a shameful thing. So for me, I've
Speaker 1: always carried that guilt or that shame that oh God,
Speaker 1: it's me as well. And now I'm fifty eight, I'm
Speaker 1: a lot older than you. So fifty eight you realize
Speaker 1: there's a reason you've got that gift. There's a reason
Speaker 1: that your ancestors are helping you at every moment you're
Speaker 1: supposed to be here. And the other people out there,
Speaker 1: men who've never shared, never spoken up, Well, hear you
Speaker 1: speak and think he's just like me. It's no different
Speaker 1: to me, you know. And I've gone through this A B, C,
Speaker 1: D or whatever the way up it's different for all
Speaker 1: of us. You study it yourself. You've got Welsh, Irish, Scottish, English,
Speaker 1: Germanic blood. You're a Saxon, you know in nor Way.
Speaker 1: You know you're in Norwegian. You carry all of that
Speaker 1: within you and when you walk on that land, bid
Speaker 1: you take on that energy.
Speaker 3: I've never got my way to her for people, always
Speaker 3: hurt myself, drugs, drink, burying what I was feeling, having
Speaker 3: a not going effect the people around me while trying
Speaker 3: to destroy myself. But to come back to the sort
Speaker 3: of psychic medium thing to put in more context into this,
Speaker 3: my ex ex well, I got three kids where we
Speaker 3: were together for sixteen years from seventeen and so was
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen. And her sister, lovely girl, she's just got
Speaker 3: drinking is lich and all that, and she put into a.
Speaker 2: Guy who was an ex police officer.
Speaker 3: He was a police officer, but he was also a
Speaker 3: cited media spoke about.
Speaker 2: Being given a crown one night in sleep and from
Speaker 2: that film which I tied to know things.
Speaker 3: Basically, it just come up to her said, look, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: it's my sound weird, but your great grandmother want me
Speaker 3: to pass this message on to lots of things about
Speaker 3: you know, my kids, saying, oh, my great grandma doesn't like.
Speaker 2: The kid's names. So apparently also said a message was
Speaker 2: saying your brother in law's very true. And then I
Speaker 2: met to my partner with school weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, but she she's gone to see the Dave, he's
Speaker 3: a spiritualist, the psychopedium and the same message. Again, it's
Speaker 3: always seems to happen. Other people go to go to
Speaker 3: a message.
Speaker 2: For themselves and the message for me.
Speaker 3: To tell me that I really want to speak to
Speaker 3: me because I have a gift. I guess is a
Speaker 3: way to call it.
Speaker 2: But I've never pursued it, never gone chasing after I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want anyone else telling me what is that
Speaker 2: I am or what is that but what they believe anyway,
Speaker 2: just turned forty two on the second.
Speaker 3: So it's not like I've not been around, been around
Speaker 3: a little bit, seen seeing enough crazy stuff. But it
Speaker 3: seems to be a reoccurring fems three or four times,
Speaker 3: and people are certain it's a message from their visits
Speaker 3: with mediums to tell me that there's.
Speaker 2: A message for me, to let me know that I've
Speaker 2: got something inspite of me. That's much a high level
Speaker 2: of awareness.
Speaker 3: Of such a good teenage boy, compassionate, empathetic care, and
Speaker 3: rare is most teenagers are, meaning prual. I was built
Speaker 3: different mentally. If you army private people, I would take
Speaker 3: on too much of other people's pain.
Speaker 1: That's that's exactly it. Your a sponge for emotion. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: I'm an amplifier and a mirror.
Speaker 3: I spent a lot of time looking into this to
Speaker 3: try to understand it, because like with mental health problems,
Speaker 3: you can sit there and let doctors tell you what
Speaker 3: it is. You find out, you know, diagnog of all these.
Speaker 2: Different mental health conditions and shout medications down my throne,
Speaker 2: and I'll just wean myself off all the got myself there.
Speaker 2: I don't need.
Speaker 1: I really really want to make a podcast where I
Speaker 1: see a lot of men online and the rage is
Speaker 1: there and the emotions there, and then I see the
Speaker 1: breakdown and I see him kind of apologizing for that rage.
Speaker 1: Really want a way to get it across to people
Speaker 1: that we've warmed with that rage for a reason, because
Speaker 1: we know that every single act and thought and the
Speaker 1: moment we come out is used to control us, and
Speaker 1: even as children, we feel it.
Speaker 2: Into view. That's what the whole point of schooling is.
Speaker 2: I understand as I've looked at it. And in nineteen twenties,
Speaker 2: the Rockefeller Foundation.
Speaker 3: Reorganize the education system as well as music and sound.
Speaker 2: The way that the standard tuning of sound went from
Speaker 2: four three two.
Speaker 3: To four four hurts it was four F two in
Speaker 3: a progression and symphonic sounds, so it moved progressively. Now
Speaker 3: what they've done, the way that if tune sound it
Speaker 3: caused something called the Devil's interlude, which causes like a feedback.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like it locks us into ourselves in
Speaker 2: a sense.
Speaker 3: So that's why they use music in a sense to
Speaker 3: control the masses as well as the media and other things.
Speaker 2: Be those starts in the education system. School it's like
Speaker 2: you tell you things as a kid, and you feel
Speaker 2: it in your heart that is.
Speaker 3: Wrong, but they're telling you that that's right, and they
Speaker 3: break you down think their way. And if you gotter tests, then.
Speaker 2: You're not part of the group.
Speaker 3: You're you're you're.
Speaker 2: Outside the floor. I never Then.
Speaker 3: They locked me in classrooms, like to take out the
Speaker 3: windows and climb out. They tried to force me to
Speaker 3: have attentions to lock me on.
Speaker 2: The second floor and put the window out and climb out,
Speaker 2: jump out the outside before window. I wanted help from
Speaker 2: them and Dyvid because I understood that they were trying
Speaker 2: to teach me a life.
Speaker 3: I was budgeting and I was against learning. It was
Speaker 3: they didn't want to try to help me. They said,
Speaker 3: you know, I had ADHD or whatever.
Speaker 2: I was harder than most of my peers and an
Speaker 2: Q tests for logic and things that I was like,
Speaker 2: no way about my peers.
Speaker 3: But for some reason they couldn't get me to apply
Speaker 3: it to baby. So there's to be logic tests and
Speaker 3: other people. And then they try and get me to
Speaker 3: write stuff down and couldn't do it.
Speaker 2: It was a disconnect between.
Speaker 3: And what they consider intelligence and I know that I'm
Speaker 3: twelve and eleven years old. It was like it was
Speaker 3: like a big beacon in the room and they were
Speaker 3: trying to teach me it was your brainwatching bullshit.
Speaker 2: I told teach that.
Speaker 3: So there's a just there's no bearing in the real world.
Speaker 3: And I would tell them and hating me for it,
Speaker 3: hating me for being honest.
Speaker 1: Yeah they were, and they hating you that having the
Speaker 1: bars to actually say it and as on it.
Speaker 2: I do a lot more than that, So I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't better need to them no matter how I tried.
Speaker 3: And my punishment't be through it me no matter what
Speaker 3: is that they wanted and what they wanted to enforce, I.
Speaker 2: Would find a way out of it. And they couldn't.
Speaker 3: You know, they have to try and physically respecting and
Speaker 3: that won't end well they've decribed.
Speaker 2: I understand it.
Speaker 3: I do. It's kind of it's like there's like a
Speaker 3: beacon and a room to have known since a boy,
Speaker 3: rebellion was.
Speaker 2: Kind of it's that rebellion for rebellion's sake. It is
Speaker 2: because who were these people to tell me that I'm bad?
Speaker 3: When they contradictory and they judge you by a standard
Speaker 3: that they don't call themselves to.
Speaker 1: Well, it's just station it just builds and builds and builds,
Speaker 1: you know, and then then you're the narti kid. And
Speaker 1: once you've got the naughty kid. And if you're empathic
Speaker 1: and you are picking up on feelings, you're in a
Speaker 1: school with about fourteen hundred kids, all teenagers, all going
Speaker 1: through stuff, and you're picking up on that. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: how were you supposed to sit there and do times
Speaker 1: tables and geography and you've put all of that going
Speaker 1: on around.
Speaker 2: You being washed over with the tide of emotion.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So it's that's kind of how my mindsets always been
Speaker 3: being established, even from me. I mean I understood this
Speaker 3: at the age of six or seven as well. When
Speaker 3: people don't get that I was rebellious, then you're.
Speaker 1: The type of person that won't let somebody be bullied
Speaker 1: or pushed into a corner or told that they're stupid,
Speaker 1: are told at the dents or just imagining, and it's
Speaker 1: your own fault. It's because you drink, it's because you
Speaker 1: do drugs, it's because you do that. There are hundreds
Speaker 1: of men and women out there in the UK going
Speaker 1: through all of that, and one of the things that
Speaker 1: I do is so not everyone's like me and you.
Speaker 1: Not everybody can stand up to that. So it will
Speaker 1: drain them, It will attach to them, and it will
Speaker 1: drain the living life out of him, you know. And
Speaker 1: people like me and you have this ability, so we
Speaker 1: can rid that attachment, so we can explain to them,
Speaker 1: you know it yourself wants something no longer scarce. It
Speaker 1: has no power over you whatsoever. And you see that
Speaker 1: person change because you've suddenly got a tool and somebody
Speaker 1: who understands, and that attachment then goes because he needs
Speaker 1: to go and look for something that's more weaker.
Speaker 3: Last year as well, there was something attached to me
Speaker 3: up until a year ago. In March last year. See,
Speaker 3: I was in such a dark place that I drove
Speaker 3: everyone away. Tom and she has to leave, I said
Speaker 3: my son at home.
Speaker 2: I can feel this.
Speaker 3: Oppressive force upon me, and everyone thought it was being
Speaker 3: cruel and mean to them, but actually it was self
Speaker 3: preservation and needed to leave because I understood there was
Speaker 3: a war about to happen.
Speaker 2: And then I know.
Speaker 1: The scariest thing you've ever done, h.
Speaker 2: M hm. And for about five or six days I
Speaker 2: just went through help. Something here in my flat oppressed
Speaker 2: and I was unintentionally fasting, and I was like, I
Speaker 2: couldn't eat. I was so worked up and actually needs
Speaker 2: to build my own blood. Trying to make us out
Speaker 2: and cut myself up. I was like losing my mind, and.
Speaker 3: As watching some podcasts, I was trying to work out
Speaker 3: all this simpleness that is happening. I was piecing, just
Speaker 3: like laying a web so I could see some connective
Speaker 3: lines and stuff.
Speaker 2: I just heard a vois in my head.
Speaker 3: Said deliverance, and it was like like an artillery shell
Speaker 3: going off and sound pretty container.
Speaker 2: It was from my body. And then a second voice
Speaker 2: screamed polipans, but it sounded evil.
Speaker 3: It was furious. Whatever happened, it was ripped from me.
Speaker 3: And I woke up from this for past out and
Speaker 3: I woke up the entity was in my room. I
Speaker 3: wanted to see it as much. I just I feel it,
Speaker 3: and it was there. The darkness was powerable. It was
Speaker 3: a shadow cast up my room. H and as I said,
Speaker 3: I went to speak, say Jesus name. I never spoke
Speaker 3: his name before, and at the moment I went to
Speaker 3: say it, the left side of my face when.
Speaker 2: Paralyzed, so I couldn't pronounce.
Speaker 3: The jay, so I had to go back to saying, yes,
Speaker 3: you were rather than Jesus. And the moment that left
Speaker 3: my lips the room cleared.
Speaker 2: And face.
Speaker 3: What is the ship.
Speaker 2: And in the moment's spiritual warfare over my soul?
Speaker 1: Yes exactly that that was a choice, that was a
Speaker 1: test so connected to the positive, loving energy that you
Speaker 1: spoke his name.
Speaker 2: Belief.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what it is that you believe in.
Speaker 1: It's the belief and the understanding that is more than you.
Speaker 1: There is a higher power.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I was Christian as a young boy.
Speaker 3: I don't go to church. I don't read the Bible.
Speaker 3: I believe that he is the action about creation.
Speaker 2: I don't. It's difficult to understand. It's like a knowing
Speaker 2: without knowing that.
Speaker 3: I don't think he's the only one that's clearly a
Speaker 3: higherarchy and there's more than one good, good.
Speaker 2: Enterity on his side or on the side of you.
Speaker 2: Days afterwards, my mind so became clear.
Speaker 3: And I walked up to the local church and har
Speaker 3: I just need to set out. I was been trapped
Speaker 3: in my flat for days mental torture, and it was
Speaker 3: like this freedom. So I walked up the church, just
Speaker 3: sat in the church gardens. I walked up the shops sandwich.
Speaker 3: On the way back, I thought near the scenes was local,
Speaker 3: just a road. I'm just outside of it.
Speaker 2: Being. A voice came to me in my head one.
Speaker 1: Word absoluttion, absolution.
Speaker 3: And at that moment, if I got how else to
Speaker 3: describe this, I'll try to describe as I can. It
Speaker 3: was like every cell in my body swelled, flexed, separated,
Speaker 3: and then was put back together. I don't know, I
Speaker 3: don't know how to describe. It's almost like was turned
Speaker 3: to sand or stone or marbles.
Speaker 2: Felt whatever. This voice is so powerful, and in that
Speaker 2: moment it was I think there's gonna lying in.
Speaker 3: Hit between the two hemispheres of my brain, clouds cleared,
Speaker 3: some might come through.
Speaker 1: And it lifted feeling.
Speaker 3: It was like every cell of my body charge atrified.
Speaker 3: It was like every cell separated and came back to.
Speaker 2: I don't describe it. It was the feeling is better
Speaker 2: than any drop it was. It's the best way to
Speaker 2: put it.
Speaker 1: You look different, your eyes shine, You're a completely different person.
Speaker 1: There's a kind of a blow to you almost because
Speaker 1: you've rid yourself of all that darkness that's been just
Speaker 1: hanging onto you since you were born.
Speaker 2: Well.
Speaker 3: A couple of days later, my neighbor across the brains,
Speaker 3: but he plays me in the dark arts, one of
Speaker 3: them does, and he is he.
Speaker 2: Is spiritually oppressed. He said to me, and he said,
Speaker 2: you're glowing. This is his words. What is it? What's
Speaker 2: different about you? You're glowing? And I could tell that
Speaker 2: the darkness and wanted it. It took my arm. M hm.
Speaker 6: I felt like poortly electricity on me. The darkness that
Speaker 6: was on him, the blackness transverred it onto me, and
Speaker 6: I had to go.
Speaker 2: We got away from him.
Speaker 1: And yeah, get rid of it. You've got to rid
Speaker 1: yourself on the.
Speaker 3: Doing that spiritual battle again, as he projected his darkness
Speaker 3: onto me.
Speaker 2: So let's take extra precautions. Now I've sold the threshold
Speaker 2: of my house and nothing can get through.
Speaker 3: I realized since then as well. It's like the spiritual
Speaker 3: I have now is insane. I was from by my
Speaker 3: girlfriends and we're.
Speaker 2: Not together now.
Speaker 3: We were sat in her house six months ago and
Speaker 3: bang on three o'clock in the morning. The room blows
Speaker 3: ice cold, and then the smell of ship she starts
Speaker 3: to permeate the room and it has the sweet smell
Speaker 3: of rotten flash.
Speaker 2: And then sulfur so powerful, and I knew in that moment.
Speaker 2: I couldn't see it, but I knew where it was.
Speaker 2: He was study fund me to the right of me
Speaker 2: and even my my a.
Speaker 3: She has the spiritual medium for a while. She's in
Speaker 3: the work of Feathers and Northwark. She's open to all
Speaker 3: of this stuff. Was close down a long time and
Speaker 3: she was like on high alert. And I just stood
Speaker 3: up and faced it and just said, I bind you
Speaker 3: repeat in the name of Christ. I cast you out
Speaker 3: to where you came. And just as soon as as
Speaker 3: soon as I, with a fart empowerment, just said him,
Speaker 3: it's gone.
Speaker 2: And a few years before that she was attapped by
Speaker 2: well you only described as a yes, a shadow, and
Speaker 2: at sunset she just left her place.
Speaker 3: She was lives in Barns with down the one way
Speaker 3: street where the old toilets are on the one way
Speaker 3: street and barn the closing and she's going down to
Speaker 3: go to the premiere on n Cart Road to won
Speaker 3: take a parcel and on the way past she said
Speaker 3: she'd seen something that looked like a shadow in the
Speaker 3: old doorway of the toilets and shot out feeling. And
Speaker 3: on the way back, the sun's obviously.
Speaker 2: Lowering the sky, and she's worked at the one wave.
Speaker 3: It projected its voice in to her and to her
Speaker 3: is going to kill her through her own voice, abusing
Speaker 3: its voice, frow her boys. And she came back with
Speaker 3: scratch from the back of her neck down her back.
Speaker 3: And there's no way should have done this herself because
Speaker 3: it was under.
Speaker 2: Her braw straps.
Speaker 1: He's looking for another house, so.
Speaker 3: She had three three lines down her neck shoulder, backing down.
Speaker 2: So when she got into straps and I looked, and
Speaker 2: there's no way should have done itself.
Speaker 3: One, there's no where your arm can reach in that
Speaker 3: place from that lane, you know, and just went from
Speaker 3: top to bottom, not from bottom to the top.
Speaker 2: And it was under the brass.
Speaker 1: And you were to recognize the fair enough you've been
Speaker 1: able to feel how frightened she was, what it had
Speaker 1: done to her.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: Well, I went straight away down to the toilets, and
Speaker 3: I walked straight up to the door where it manifest
Speaker 3: and challenge that was going to rip it so loud.
Speaker 2: I was going to destroy it. And a night where
Speaker 2: was hers?
Speaker 3: For nights after sense it was in the back of
Speaker 3: the garden in the shadows, and I stand there challenging it.
Speaker 2: I knew it was there.
Speaker 1: You know it's there.
Speaker 2: Challenge it to show itself a cigarette and has It's
Speaker 2: like if you stepped.
Speaker 1: Your mind.
Speaker 3: I challenge it, draws spruit to life for it. If
Speaker 3: you cross this line, you're done. I'm going to pull
Speaker 3: you to pieces hands. And I did that the night's
Speaker 3: time and it ended, and.
Speaker 1: It always will. It won't always be an easy battle.
Speaker 1: There will be some some situations where you can cure
Speaker 1: it in a minute, and there'll be some situations where
Speaker 1: you've got to work on it for a year, two years,
Speaker 1: three year. It's really hard because these dark entities are
Speaker 1: looking for a weakness. And when I say that, I
Speaker 1: don't mean weak people. I mean a weakness changing the armor. Yeah,
Speaker 1: just sorrow, sadness, loss.
Speaker 2: I got rid of that thing that was over me.
Speaker 2: I think it's attacked herself to my I mean the
Speaker 2: amount of crazy things have happened well with have been together,
Speaker 2: especially during lockdown. We go out driving at night because
Speaker 2: the board would get out.
Speaker 3: We played around with ranking article once which probably she'd
Speaker 3: had it during guided meditation. She'd had an encounter with.
Speaker 1: A b access right, and he gave her a key
Speaker 1: mm hmm.
Speaker 3: To something and he wanted her to join him. She
Speaker 3: didn't join him, but he gave her a key. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the fact that she accepted the key being good for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she was basically a guide.
Speaker 3: She chose to see me.
Speaker 1: It was just what we were paid. That's it will
Speaker 1: be like. You're like a lighthouse, right, I'm like a
Speaker 1: lighthouse in the dark, in the darkest that venture black,
Speaker 1: the darkest black that there is. And he's a pinprick
Speaker 1: of light. And that pimpric is me or you or
Speaker 1: Danny or Joe or Elaine, that person that picks up
Speaker 1: on energy.
Speaker 2: Well, I walked the woods a lot on my own
Speaker 2: at night, so late at night, and it was late
Speaker 2: sunset sometimes something before, and I tend to.
Speaker 3: Be out on my own. I sit on my own
Speaker 3: for hours and place, and I know what walks out,
Speaker 3: and I know what comes out when the sun goes down,
Speaker 3: when the portal opens and steps through. That guy from
Speaker 3: Wincey seeing the dog Man, I listened to his story
Speaker 3: when he spoke to you, and I know exactly where
Speaker 3: he was. I worked out and listened to where he's talking.
Speaker 3: He was at the top flashes. I listened to and
Speaker 3: I looked at the maps, and I broke it down.
Speaker 3: So from went to the ridge and I know what
Speaker 3: walks his lands I see when we were using one.
Speaker 3: But for what he pulled up outside of Marbins about
Speaker 3: one o'clock the main gate. Outside the main gate of
Speaker 3: Mark Park, you've got a time car park just opposite.
Speaker 3: Burst the car in so that the lights were facing
Speaker 3: the main gate. So like got out of the car
Speaker 3: and leaning against the back of the back of the
Speaker 3: driver's side, the back and the passenger side on the
Speaker 3: driver's side side, the passenger at the back, so.
Speaker 2: Leaning against the back of the car. As long as
Speaker 2: the slipper of woods.
Speaker 3: There as a road under it was called Devil's Head
Speaker 3: with feet lights and the Goblet bridge. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of slipper of woods with that car park is so
Speaker 3: I could see the street lights from the road down
Speaker 3: beneath and over there was like a slipper of woods.
Speaker 3: So over to the far side, which I started to
Speaker 3: hear something on all fours coming towards me.
Speaker 2: Is that a bad yet there's no way that way too,
Speaker 2: and like a fucking sheep or a cow got into
Speaker 2: that field, and that's how heavy it was.
Speaker 3: But it's got to be back the cow, because not
Speaker 3: only was the branches snapping underneath its feet, they were
Speaker 3: rushing underneath its feet. And it went from walking on
Speaker 3: two legs the forelegs, to bipedally and whatever it was
Speaker 3: walked right up to the back.
Speaker 2: End of the car. It was six or eight feet
Speaker 2: away from me.
Speaker 3: See the street lights behind it, whatever was there, I
Speaker 3: should have been able to see it.
Speaker 2: It was invisible. And I tell by the weight of its.
Speaker 3: Body, the way it was walking, the sound of its footfall,
Speaker 3: and the weight of this what the devastation of the
Speaker 3: cracking the sticks were just snapping, were crushing.
Speaker 2: It was heavier than free men for mine. It was massive.
Speaker 2: It was. It was at least two of me.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what fifteen stonework fish because at least two
Speaker 3: of me at least it was massive.
Speaker 2: Whatever it was, and it walked right on the back
Speaker 2: of the car, and my x is freaking out.
Speaker 3: You can hear it's using a car with a radio
Speaker 3: one and you can hear the footsteps and she's going
Speaker 3: to get in the car.
Speaker 2: I'm smoking car. I wasn't freaked out in that sense,
Speaker 2: like I knew it was a little more easy.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't consumed by fear, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: I just stared down into that boy that was there.
Speaker 2: I knew where it was.
Speaker 3: I could tell by the sound exactly where it moved to.
Speaker 3: I couldn't see her. I got in the car because
Speaker 3: she in the end that she was freaked out and
Speaker 3: only moved on because she she was like this gal there.
Speaker 3: Whatever it was was right. It was right at the
Speaker 3: back of the car, and it was six foot away
Speaker 3: from me minimum april maximum. It was within that range.
Speaker 2: It was close. I mean I should have been able
Speaker 2: to able to breathe, but couldn't. I I just heard
Speaker 2: the football. But I mean that's I wouldn't even say
Speaker 2: that's the strangest one.
Speaker 3: We've gone for a drive again during what that was
Speaker 3: about the same time, roughly one o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: But we've gone to.
Speaker 3: Were to Owen Park and that little car park almost
Speaker 3: as your past part slightly and he is a little
Speaker 3: right and turn into a little car parkers.
Speaker 2: Of nature trail and parts and that part. Quite a
Speaker 2: few ways things to happen in that car park. I'll
Speaker 2: be honest swell.
Speaker 3: I'm driving less in the passenger seat in front and
Speaker 3: in the back passinger.
Speaker 2: Window on her side. The uh an all of light
Speaker 2: around a swan an inch inch and a half in
Speaker 2: diameter and amber and color just appeared by the back
Speaker 2: window and.
Speaker 3: Thinks that I'm looking around trying to work out, thinking
Speaker 3: that's it's that torch, and I'm trying to look for
Speaker 3: the source of dislike and that someone shot and the
Speaker 3: torch at the park and that's not a torch. It's
Speaker 3: like a laser ped stub jected to see the reflection
Speaker 3: through my windows. Nothing, and I'm looking at it. I'm
Speaker 3: looking at I'm like, that's independent on its own. It's
Speaker 3: about two inches away from the window. It was about
Speaker 3: an inch and a half to two inches maximum in diameter.
Speaker 3: Then it starts to spin around in a circle by
Speaker 3: the back bundle. It starts moving in a circular motion,
Speaker 3: almost like an It starts like a big great pad
Speaker 3: and it splits into three ups. I don't know if
Speaker 3: you've ever seen the video of the flight MH three seventy,
Speaker 3: the Malaysia fight.
Speaker 2: They disappeared and then.
Speaker 3: There was some footage it was released a little later
Speaker 3: of these three orps around in the plane, and it disappeared.
Speaker 1: No, I didn't see that, but I ever heard of
Speaker 1: him before.
Speaker 3: These three orpes died interlocking in a We were moving
Speaker 3: in a circular motion about him through each pattern, and
Speaker 3: he started speeding up and getting bigger and let.
Speaker 2: You see that, and then a little weird did that
Speaker 2: look like? And then a voice, not my own voice.
Speaker 3: So one word into the back of my head, which
Speaker 3: was basically just but it was it was more like
Speaker 3: I could not I could feel the urgency in his voice.
Speaker 2: And it was that one word spoke a thousand words
Speaker 2: describe it. I knew it was in danger. It told
Speaker 2: me that one word, I knew we were. We were
Speaker 2: in danger. So I just peeled that in the car.
Speaker 2: And I mean the fact that this voice, whatever it was,
Speaker 2: it wasn't my voice. It was powerful. It was a forestative.
Speaker 2: And I smoke one.
Speaker 3: Word and told me a fast into a thousand things
Speaker 3: in one saying it was I felt the urgency, I
Speaker 3: felt the.
Speaker 2: What it was trying to relate to me. It's like,
Speaker 2: I'm in danger. I have to go.
Speaker 3: It was on the old probably would have stayed a
Speaker 3: little longer, but no, no, I got a partner with
Speaker 3: me and I would put it.
Speaker 2: So I appealed that Hart there and on the way back,
Speaker 2: going down the A forty nine, coming up to.
Speaker 3: The Cabbage Hall on the right hand and the opposite lane,
Speaker 3: it was earlier hours of the morning, like a shadow
Speaker 3: started appear on the road and started to stand up
Speaker 3: like a call, like something was manifesting ahead, was on
Speaker 3: the back lane and looking enough a truck can be
Speaker 3: aware as soon as it has had it gone.
Speaker 2: It dispersed whatever it was.
Speaker 3: But we could feel like on that old coach road
Speaker 3: as we're just feeling away from feel like there was
Speaker 3: something following us alongside.
Speaker 2: Us, something ancient, Yes, something something very ancient.
Speaker 3: Whatever that was like that would probably freaked me out
Speaker 3: more than the thing walking up to the back of
Speaker 3: the car.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that there was a voice telling
Speaker 2: me to go.
Speaker 1: As you can tell, quite a lot happened to Burry
Speaker 1: over the years. This was our initial chat. It was
Speaker 1: just supposed to be a phone call at first, but
Speaker 1: allowed me to record the conversation as we went along.
Speaker 1: So I'm going to sit down with him again next
Speaker 1: week and we're going to cover some of the experiences
Speaker 1: again because he wants to add some more detail and
Speaker 1: some other events that have happened. I think one of
Speaker 1: them is paranormal in the fact that he's seeing a
Speaker 1: ghost or a spirit. I think there's a cryptid account
Speaker 1: as well. We haven't really gone into much detail at
Speaker 1: the moment, so I'll be back in about two weeks
Speaker 1: time with the second half of that. If you've got
Speaker 1: any questions for Barry, or there is any advice or
Speaker 1: anything that you want to pass on, please make a
Speaker 1: comment in the comment section below and I can bring
Speaker 1: them up with him when I speak to him next week.
Speaker 1: I understand more than most people how the frustration of
Speaker 1: not being believed as a child, or the frustration of
Speaker 1: having things happening around you that others don't understand can
Speaker 1: literally turn to rage, and it can run you for
Speaker 1: many a year like an attachment. And when we're going
Speaker 1: through those things that sometimes when an attachment can take
Speaker 1: hold of us. I don't know a man yet that
Speaker 1: hasn't grown up. There's got some rage in him, you know.
Speaker 1: And you've heard me say it before. We take all
Speaker 1: of the tools away before they've even started to walk,
Speaker 1: and then we expect them to live in twenty twenty
Speaker 1: five when we were really built for, you know, to
Speaker 1: sit in a cave really and eat berries. And that
Speaker 1: might sound like I'm being facetious, but I'm not. Human
Speaker 1: beings are not made to put up with and live
Speaker 1: under the stress that we have now. So just having
Speaker 1: to navigate that through when I'm hard enough. And then
Speaker 1: tie that into the fact that most people are natural empaths.
Speaker 1: That's why you walk into a room and you suddenly
Speaker 1: know that someone's not right, and you walk into the
Speaker 1: pub and you know which one you need to be
Speaker 1: wary of something you know your lasses sped up with
Speaker 1: you are one of the kids is sick some natural
Speaker 1: intuition and we've kind of had that taken from us
Speaker 1: and we are to ought to disbelieve all of that,
Speaker 1: and that can lead to rage. But on the other
Speaker 1: side of rage, there is a kind of a calmness.
Speaker 1: I think Barry used the word an absolution, a deliverance
Speaker 1: from that and when you reach that side of it,
Speaker 1: you want that for other people. And that's the reason
Speaker 1: that Barry's come forward to share. He lives in an
Speaker 1: area that has a lot of high activity, and he
Speaker 1: was born in an area that's very similar to that
Speaker 1: as well. He has a connection to the land. He's
Speaker 1: happier out in nature, and most of us that have
Speaker 1: the rage eventually realized that nature's the answer for us,
Speaker 1: whether that be walking, you know, hiking, fishing, playing golf,
Speaker 1: whatever it is, like me and my horse is, whatever
Speaker 1: it is that sues your soul, do more of that,
Speaker 1: and when you look back going to meet someone who's
Speaker 1: going to the rage that you used to have, hopefully
Speaker 1: you'll have tools where you can help them through that. So,
Speaker 1: like I say, I'll sit down with Barry again this
Speaker 1: week and I will chat, we'll record the call again,
Speaker 1: and I'll bring that to you. Not this city coming
Speaker 1: next Saturday, but I'll put a reminder up on the
Speaker 1: YouTube channel.