Speaker 1: Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and
Speaker 1: I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't
Speaker 1: help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as
Speaker 1: our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested
Speaker 1: in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm
Speaker 1: going over the same parenting topics over and over.
Speaker 2: So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we
Speaker 2: thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,
Speaker 2: if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,
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Speaker 1: Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of
Speaker 1: an older entertainment property. And for this week of December ninth,
Speaker 1: we are continuing with Lost season one, episode twenty three,
Speaker 1: Exodus Part one. Yes, indeed, folks, we have finally come
Speaker 1: to the exciting two part season finale that we've been
Speaker 1: marking time for a few episodes now. And you know,
Speaker 1: on the one hand, there's a monster chasing people through
Speaker 1: the jungle, and the crazy French lady has shown up again,
Speaker 1: and there's black smoke and possible terrible things afoot. But
Speaker 1: at the other hand, the raft took off.
Speaker 2: They did it.
Speaker 1: They're going to rescue everybody, so it's nothing to worry about.
Speaker 1: You know this. I thought this show went on for
Speaker 1: like five seasons, but it looks like it's almost over
Speaker 1: because you know they're off. They're off to find rescue again.
Speaker 2: I remind you of is Island.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, but.
Speaker 2: It looked good. It looked good.
Speaker 1: The raft.
Speaker 2: Look pretty solid.
Speaker 1: I said to my husband, would you want to go
Speaker 1: off into the open ocean on that thing making? Making
Speaker 1: the island and the column of smoke and the monster
Speaker 1: looked actually like possibly a better option, but I could
Speaker 1: possibly go wrong. Yeah, you know, I'm sure they're near
Speaker 1: a sea lane and so there will be no time
Speaker 1: at all before a boat comes and picks them up.
Speaker 2: I mean that's what artist said, right like, or maybe
Speaker 2: he did. I don't. This guy says a lot of things. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: shows up out of nowhere, talking a lot.
Speaker 1: This episode was particularly one for extras. Yes, every time
Speaker 1: they showed a group shot, there's who the heck is that?
Speaker 2: Who's There's a.
Speaker 1: Guy with an elaborate beard, and there was an old dude,
Speaker 1: and who are you people? Why have we never seen
Speaker 1: you before? But okay, it's got to look like there's
Speaker 1: forty people there and not just the handful of name actors, right.
Speaker 2: Which I mean maybe it'll come into play later, but like,
Speaker 2: they didn't need to have that many people, do you
Speaker 2: know what I mean? Like, well, but have just killed
Speaker 2: off more on.
Speaker 1: The plane they could have, but you need a certain
Speaker 1: amount of cannon fodder, I think, right possibly, that's the
Speaker 1: only reason I would think of having the extras, although
Speaker 1: they do at some point start trying to tell those
Speaker 1: people's stories, which was a mistake, but we'll get there.
Speaker 1: Turns out we really don't care about them, right, but
Speaker 1: we threw them a bone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Danielle Rousseau shows up and says, you have
Speaker 2: three choices. You can run, hide, or die, which she
Speaker 2: didn't give the choice of try to fight. I guess
Speaker 2: she knew that was not going to ever work, right,
Speaker 2: I mean, this idea of going into the hatch, like, okay,
Speaker 2: then you're just sitting ducks, like you're just right all
Speaker 2: down in there. If they can even get in, they
Speaker 2: don't know what's in there, Like, yeah, I realized this
Speaker 2: is all going to be covered. But at this point,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that sounds real dumb.
Speaker 1: You know, yes, you didn't. Also, why would you assume
Speaker 1: that they weren't in that hatch.
Speaker 2: Or they don't they know about it?
Speaker 1: And presumably longer than you are, you're just the first
Speaker 1: head discover. Yeah. And also where are you going to
Speaker 1: run to? You know, there's like if they're everywhere and
Speaker 1: you have a limited area to run before you have
Speaker 1: to swim, how is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Scary though?
Speaker 2: And also what does like have they the others just
Speaker 2: decided that they can leave Brusso alone? Like I guess
Speaker 2: she said she knows how to hide, Yeah, but why
Speaker 2: does she? Why does she care about our castaways?
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, it's the island, it's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's always the answer.
Speaker 1: Isn't it. Yeah. But as much as the last few
Speaker 1: episodes have been marking time to this two episode finale,
Speaker 1: this one is sort of marking time a little bit.
Speaker 1: It's setting up all the pieces for next week in
Speaker 1: which a great deal happens. So right, right, just gotta
Speaker 1: be you gotta budget your action, you know. Mostly her
Speaker 1: only function here is just be be weird and unsettling. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and she does that very well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's good at that. I mean, I guess we're
Speaker 2: not surprised after her how she's spent the last sixteen years, right.
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, But I mean this is not spoilering
Speaker 1: or foreshadowing at all. I'm just saying that from their
Speaker 1: point of view, how did they know that she's not
Speaker 1: one of the bad guys? Is just playing them? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know there's these bad guys, trust me.
Speaker 2: Right, exactly, just because say, has encountered her before, that's right.
Speaker 1: Oh well, it's hard when you're in a scary world
Speaker 1: to parent an unruly group of children to safety. Poor Jack, right,
Speaker 1: he's like he has to make all the decisions. What
Speaker 1: are we going to do? What do you think should
Speaker 1: we run high or die? Which one? What should we do?
Speaker 2: And then he's like, okay, everybody, here's I'm going to
Speaker 2: go get this dynamite. You here's the list of tasks
Speaker 2: you need to do while I'm gone.
Speaker 1: You stay here alone and undefended on the beach.
Speaker 2: No, he told them to go to the caves.
Speaker 1: Oh that's right, that's right, which again, still like I.
Speaker 2: Mean, and they're just alone in the cave.
Speaker 1: Half of the men capable of protecting people went off
Speaker 1: on a raft and half of them went off toward
Speaker 1: black Rock. Who's left in the caves? Is Charlie going
Speaker 1: to defend them?
Speaker 2: He's going to defend Claire? He thinks, yeah, hey, he
Speaker 2: he killed a guy.
Speaker 1: Remember Charlie and a bunch of random dudes basically there
Speaker 1: to protect all the women and child.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did kill a guy before, so I guess.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the most badass woman Kate took off. So it's
Speaker 1: if the if the idea was to make an easy
Speaker 1: target for the bad guys. I think they did a
Speaker 1: great job.
Speaker 2: Check that off the list.
Speaker 1: But you know what, you got to make a decision,
Speaker 1: and you got to sell it, and you got to
Speaker 1: do it like you mean it. So you know, not
Speaker 1: for the faint of heart, is is parenting or leading people.
Speaker 1: But at least Jack got at least Sawyer as his
Speaker 1: supposed parting gift. Gave Jack the story of having met
Speaker 1: his father in a bar.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 1: He left off the part about and I knew it
Speaker 1: was your father because he told that super joke about
Speaker 1: the was it the red Sox? I think? Because otherwise
Speaker 1: how does how does I mean? Jack has to be saying, well,
Speaker 1: how did you know that was my dad? But or
Speaker 1: is he just thinking it must be if you told
Speaker 1: him about the joke, then it's for sure you know
Speaker 1: the connection.
Speaker 2: But uh, you know, yeah, but he was like he's
Speaker 2: a doctor and he and he's his son was a doctor. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, and I mean when he says his name was Christian,
Speaker 1: then Jack knows it's his dad. But how would Sawyer
Speaker 1: have known it's his dad? Right? Oh, you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's fine, but it was nice. I was glad that
Speaker 1: Sawyer did that he did not have to, and it was,
Speaker 1: you know, just the question Jack needed to hear. Right then,
Speaker 1: is that his dad believed in him, but not enough
Speaker 1: to actually call him up and tell him. Still to
Speaker 1: tell another drunk guy in a bar, well, it means something.
Speaker 2: He was just too drunk to actually.
Speaker 1: Yes, too drunk and too much of an sob. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but still I think that was more the thing than
Speaker 1: the drink. But yeah, agreed. So that was a lovely
Speaker 1: little moment between the two of them, and then off
Speaker 1: they went to their their respective doomed endeavors.
Speaker 2: Right, what do you mean to tell me this doesn't work?
Speaker 1: It's both gonna work. Everything's gonna work. It's a one
Speaker 1: season show, so next week gonna wrap all this stuff up.
Speaker 2: Right, I'm triumphantly back with the.
Speaker 1: Raft with some there can be just more seasons that
Speaker 1: are like Gilligan's Island, like you know, island comedy. Some
Speaker 1: of them just decided to stay in this nice place. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well have hijinks, Yeah, hijinks galore. I think that's that's
Speaker 1: the general reputation. The show has one season of moody
Speaker 1: genre drama and then a bunch of high jinks. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think I think hijinks is accurate, but I think
Speaker 2: the way they're perceived is maybe not.
Speaker 1: I think high jinks are mostly on the part of
Speaker 1: the writers of the scripts. But anyway, so Son and
Speaker 1: Jin had a nice moment. They made up. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I noticed for the first time that Sun has a
Speaker 1: really nice watch. Did she have that watch all along?
Speaker 2: I didn't notice it? And how I just noticed that
Speaker 2: her nails are very clean.
Speaker 1: Despite her digging in the garden.
Speaker 2: Yes, well again, the Island spa has a manicares.
Speaker 1: The Ellen spa absolutely. But I just when she was
Speaker 1: hugging him, I noticed she had this It looked like
Speaker 1: brand new out of a box watch, very shiny with
Speaker 1: a leather band that was very crisp and nice looking.
Speaker 1: And I just being around my house, I can break
Speaker 1: and damage things. How is it possible that you can
Speaker 1: be through a plane crash and live on a beach
Speaker 1: or low these many days and your watch looks like
Speaker 1: it just came out of a box. I don't know
Speaker 1: the island. Have we mentioned that the island is weird?
Speaker 1: It has an odd dug quality of keeping time pieces?
Speaker 2: Christine, there you go.
Speaker 1: That sort of thing should not catch your eye. Wardrobe
Speaker 1: people right, like, don't introduce hair color, don't you introduce
Speaker 1: new looking things? What else went on?
Speaker 2: Well, we have Claire just holding the baby and looking
Speaker 2: very worried, which I'm sure well she should, Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: You know that when Rousseau is talking about her own
Speaker 2: baby and Claire is just like holding her baby tighter
Speaker 2: and tighter and tighter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just like, Yeah, I would, I would keep an
Speaker 1: eye on Rousseau visa VI your baby, Claire.
Speaker 2: She'll never sleep again, Claire, Oh my gosh, nor should she.
Speaker 2: We've already she's already had so much trouble in that area.
Speaker 2: And now Sawyer's gone. He's the only one who could
Speaker 2: read to the baby.
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, that's right. That kid's going to be crying
Speaker 1: until he comes back. Vincent's going to be watching the
Speaker 1: ocean for his boy. Baby's going to be crying for
Speaker 1: his reader. You know this is these people leave a
Speaker 1: hole in the community.
Speaker 2: Can't take take people's comfort objects away from them.
Speaker 1: Oh no, poor Vincent, you know he's already.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now he stuck with Shannon person.
Speaker 1: Who is actually his master, and then he devoted himself
Speaker 1: to the boy who has now left him. Although, would
Speaker 1: Vincent look at that raft, buddy, you you're much better right,
Speaker 1: first thing, time that thing hits a wave, you're going
Speaker 1: off the edge. But yeah, Shannon, Shannon, and we got
Speaker 1: the many, many flashbacks of all the different characters, including Shannon,
Speaker 1: like fingering sayid to the security at the airport for
Speaker 1: leaving his bag, asking her to watch his bag. So
Speaker 1: fortunately he apparently does not remember that. Yeah, and uh
Speaker 1: and Jack met uh met a nice lady at the
Speaker 1: bar right right all that away. I was in the
Speaker 1: tail section of the plane. Did you hear she was
Speaker 1: in the tail section? That would be the same section
Speaker 1: of the plane as Rose's husband, would it not, Yes,
Speaker 1: In the bathroom. Yes, no reason, but hi, Michelle Rodriguez,
Speaker 1: Wonderfu'll see you again?
Speaker 2: Wonder?
Speaker 1: Hmmm.
Speaker 2: Interesting.
Speaker 1: Also Jack mentioned he isn't married anymore.
Speaker 2: Right in that scene? What happened to Julie Bowen?
Speaker 1: Will we get flashbacks about that sometime in the next
Speaker 1: four or five years of this show?
Speaker 2: Pretty sure?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking yes, But uh and uh ours. This is
Speaker 1: what I don't understand. People who get frightened of something
Speaker 1: that's going on and say I'm going to run back
Speaker 1: through the jungle by myself to safety. Right, That doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense to be right? What I mean, this is
Speaker 1: terribly scary, But there's a bunch of other people, So
Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna get eaten, there's a possibility it's not me.
Speaker 1: On the other hand, if I'm running by myself, there's
Speaker 1: a decent chance I'm going to get lost or caught
Speaker 1: in a trap or you know, or.
Speaker 2: Any number of other disasters.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he se numbers buddy.
Speaker 2: He thinks he's you know, knows everything. Apparently he does.
Speaker 1: And I resented when he said, if you want to
Speaker 1: keep something secret, don't tell the fat guy because you're
Speaker 1: not so svelt yourself. Mister don't be disinhurly, come on.
Speaker 2: And also what like, where does that come from?
Speaker 1: I've never heard I guess. I guess they were going
Speaker 1: into the into the jungle to find this black rock
Speaker 1: and this dynamite, and I guess Hurley knew about it
Speaker 1: and told ourst right.
Speaker 2: But like, what is that being overweight have to do
Speaker 2: with keeping a Yes.
Speaker 1: Well, that's true. I guess it's just the the shallow
Speaker 1: person's way to remember who all these characters are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I don't think that they're bending over backwards to
Speaker 1: make ours particularly likable. So no, we should just call
Speaker 1: him Arst because that bothers him. But or Leslie, that guy, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he thinks he's pretty smart. You know what happens to
Speaker 1: people on this island when they think they're pretty smart.
Speaker 2: Nothing good, that's fine, we won't miss them. Oh.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we got more of the story about the plane,
Speaker 1: the little toy plane. Thank goodness. We're dying for information
Speaker 1: about the plane. We got old scene about the plane,
Speaker 1: but the detective just explains the entire story, so we
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but it was the whole stuff we basically already knew.
Speaker 2: We still don't know how it got from the car
Speaker 2: to the safe deposit box.
Speaker 1: I would guess that he's the agent that's been following her.
Speaker 1: He got it from the car.
Speaker 2: And then he put it in the safe deposit box.
Speaker 1: I believe. I think that's what he was saying.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, all right, whatever, dude.
Speaker 1: But boy, he seems like a very unpleasant fella. Yeah,
Speaker 1: based on that scene. I mean, not that Cake comes
Speaker 1: off that grade either, but he seems unnecessarily yeah, not nice.
Speaker 2: So and you know, if you were going to put
Speaker 2: it in a random safe deposit box in the middle
Speaker 2: of New Mexico, like I don't know, maybe have have
Speaker 2: like a staff member there who's who you're paying to,
Speaker 2: like pictures of Kate in the in the bank, and
Speaker 2: say like, if this lady shows up, that's bad news.
Speaker 1: But is this how we handle evidence? Yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 1: put in some random place this this precious piece of evidence.
Speaker 1: You know, it's not like it's a weapon used in
Speaker 1: a crime. It's a toy airplane, right. I think that
Speaker 1: they're trying really hard to make this thing significant, and
Speaker 1: I guess maybe the fact that it's a plane gives
Speaker 1: it all sorts of irony, but.
Speaker 3: All right, yeah whatever, Yeah, and uh Sawyer, we saw
Speaker 3: Sawyer getting well, I guess he gets arrested in a
Speaker 3: bar fight and then their Australia's answer is to deport him.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't living there particularly, he just went there
Speaker 1: to kill somebody, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean like he was deporting, as in,
Speaker 2: like you're out of here right now, never come back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, I hope the Raft doesn't end up in
Speaker 1: Australia and all sorts of trouble.
Speaker 2: In trouble.
Speaker 1: Say, oops, can't land here. I'm going to take the
Speaker 1: raft back. So I see you later. Oh goodness, ye, sorry,
Speaker 1: getting everybody's a little bit of backstory, Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: bit more before stuff starts to happen. But all of
Speaker 1: this is for nothing because the Raft is gonna totally
Speaker 1: find a boat right away rescue them before anything bad
Speaker 1: can happens, right yay. So next Tuesday we will end
Speaker 1: season one try with episode twenty four Exodus Park to
Speaker 1: the exciting season finale in which the Raft lands, they
Speaker 1: all get rescued and they go, ah shows up or not.
Speaker 1: We will see you back here tomorrow to discuss shrinking.
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