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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Parenting Roundabout podcast. I'm Terry Morrow and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Catherine Jileco. As parents and parenting writers, we can't

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<v Speaker 1>help but see everything through a parenting lens. But as

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<v Speaker 1>our kids have become adults, we find ourselves more interested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting caught up on movies and streaming than I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going over the same parenting topics over and over.

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<v Speaker 2>So since we're pretty sure we can find parenting wisdom anywhere,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to talk about what we're watching, what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought about it, and maybe what we can learn from it,

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<v Speaker 2>if only what not to do. Watch and listen along,

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<v Speaker 2>and let's all make like we're doing something important for

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<v Speaker 2>our families.

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<v Speaker 1>Each Tuesday we bring you a watch or rewatch of

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<v Speaker 1>an older entertainment property. And for this week of December ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>we are continuing with Lost season one, episode twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>Exodus Part one. Yes, indeed, folks, we have finally come

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<v Speaker 1>to the exciting two part season finale that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>marking time for a few episodes now. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the one hand, there's a monster chasing people through

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<v Speaker 1>the jungle, and the crazy French lady has shown up again,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's black smoke and possible terrible things afoot. But

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<v Speaker 1>at the other hand, the raft took off.

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<v Speaker 2>They did it.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to rescue everybody, so it's nothing to worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>You know this. I thought this show went on for

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<v Speaker 1>like five seasons, but it looks like it's almost over

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<v Speaker 1>because you know they're off. They're off to find rescue again.

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<v Speaker 2>I remind you of is Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, but.

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<v Speaker 2>It looked good. It looked good.

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<v Speaker 1>The raft.

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<v Speaker 2>Look pretty solid.

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<v Speaker 1>I said to my husband, would you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>off into the open ocean on that thing making? Making

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<v Speaker 1>the island and the column of smoke and the monster

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<v Speaker 1>looked actually like possibly a better option, but I could

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<v Speaker 1>possibly go wrong. Yeah, you know, I'm sure they're near

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<v Speaker 1>a sea lane and so there will be no time

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<v Speaker 1>at all before a boat comes and picks them up.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's what artist said, right like, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>he did. I don't. This guy says a lot of things. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>shows up out of nowhere, talking a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>This episode was particularly one for extras. Yes, every time

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<v Speaker 1>they showed a group shot, there's who the heck is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Who's There's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Guy with an elaborate beard, and there was an old dude,

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<v Speaker 1>and who are you people? Why have we never seen

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<v Speaker 1>you before? But okay, it's got to look like there's

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<v Speaker 1>forty people there and not just the handful of name actors, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which I mean maybe it'll come into play later, but like,

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't need to have that many people, do you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean? Like, well, but have just killed

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<v Speaker 2>off more on.

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<v Speaker 1>The plane they could have, but you need a certain

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<v Speaker 1>amount of cannon fodder, I think, right possibly, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason I would think of having the extras, although

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<v Speaker 1>they do at some point start trying to tell those

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<v Speaker 1>people's stories, which was a mistake, but we'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Turns out we really don't care about them, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>we threw them a bone.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So Danielle Rousseau shows up and says, you have

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<v Speaker 2>three choices. You can run, hide, or die, which she

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<v Speaker 2>didn't give the choice of try to fight. I guess

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<v Speaker 2>she knew that was not going to ever work, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, this idea of going into the hatch, like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're just sitting ducks, like you're just right all

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<v Speaker 2>down in there. If they can even get in, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't know what's in there, Like, yeah, I realized this

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<v Speaker 2>is all going to be covered. But at this point,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, that sounds real dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, yes, you didn't. Also, why would you assume

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<v Speaker 1>that they weren't in that hatch.

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<v Speaker 2>Or they don't they know about it?

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<v Speaker 1>And presumably longer than you are, you're just the first

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<v Speaker 1>head discover. Yeah. And also where are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>run to? You know, there's like if they're everywhere and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a limited area to run before you have

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<v Speaker 1>to swim, how is that?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Scary though?

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<v Speaker 2>And also what does like have they the others just

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<v Speaker 2>decided that they can leave Brusso alone? Like I guess

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<v Speaker 2>she said she knows how to hide, Yeah, but why

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<v Speaker 2>does she? Why does she care about our castaways?

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<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, it's the island, it's weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess that's always the answer.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it. Yeah. But as much as the last few

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<v Speaker 1>this one is sort of marking time a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>It's setting up all the pieces for next week in

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<v Speaker 1>which a great deal happens. So right, right, just gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be you gotta budget your action, you know. Mostly her

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<v Speaker 1>only function here is just be be weird and unsettling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and she does that very well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's good at that. I mean, I guess we're

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<v Speaker 2>not surprised after her how she's spent the last sixteen years, right.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. Yeah, But I mean this is not spoilering

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<v Speaker 1>or foreshadowing at all. I'm just saying that from their

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<v Speaker 1>one of the bad guys? Is just playing them? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you know there's these bad guys, trust me.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, exactly, just because say, has encountered her before, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, it's hard when you're in a scary world

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<v Speaker 1>to parent an unruly group of children to safety. Poor Jack, right,

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<v Speaker 1>he's like he has to make all the decisions. What

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<v Speaker 1>are we going to do? What do you think should

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<v Speaker 1>we run high or die? Which one? What should we do?

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<v Speaker 2>And then he's like, okay, everybody, here's I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>go get this dynamite. You here's the list of tasks

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<v Speaker 2>you need to do while I'm gone.

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<v Speaker 1>You stay here alone and undefended on the beach.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he told them to go to the caves.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, that's right, which again, still like I.

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<v Speaker 2>Mean, and they're just alone in the cave.

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<v Speaker 1>Half of the men capable of protecting people went off

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<v Speaker 1>on a raft and half of them went off toward

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<v Speaker 1>black Rock. Who's left in the caves? Is Charlie going

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<v Speaker 1>to defend them?

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to defend Claire? He thinks, yeah, hey, he

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<v Speaker 2>he killed a guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember Charlie and a bunch of random dudes basically there

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<v Speaker 1>to protect all the women and child.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he did kill a guy before, so I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the most badass woman Kate took off. So it's

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<v Speaker 1>if the if the idea was to make an easy

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<v Speaker 1>target for the bad guys. I think they did a

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<v Speaker 1>great job.

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<v Speaker 2>Check that off the list.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know what, you got to make a decision,

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<v Speaker 1>and you got to sell it, and you got to

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<v Speaker 1>do it like you mean it. So you know, not

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<v Speaker 1>for the faint of heart, is is parenting or leading people.

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<v Speaker 1>But at least Jack got at least Sawyer as his

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<v Speaker 1>supposed parting gift. Gave Jack the story of having met

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<v Speaker 1>his father in a bar.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>He left off the part about and I knew it

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<v Speaker 1>was your father because he told that super joke about

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<v Speaker 1>the was it the red Sox? I think? Because otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>how does how does I mean? Jack has to be saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you know that was my dad? But or

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<v Speaker 1>is he just thinking it must be if you told

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<v Speaker 1>him about the joke, then it's for sure you know

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<v Speaker 1>the connection.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, you know, yeah, but he was like he's

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<v Speaker 2>a doctor and he and he's his son was a doctor. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, and I mean when he says his name was Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>then Jack knows it's his dad. But how would Sawyer

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<v Speaker 1>have known it's his dad? Right? Oh, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fine, but it was nice. I was glad that

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<v Speaker 1>Sawyer did that he did not have to, and it was,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just the question Jack needed to hear. Right then,

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<v Speaker 1>is that his dad believed in him, but not enough

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<v Speaker 1>to actually call him up and tell him. Still to

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<v Speaker 1>tell another drunk guy in a bar, well, it means something.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just too drunk to actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, too drunk and too much of an sob. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but still I think that was more the thing than

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<v Speaker 1>the drink. But yeah, agreed. So that was a lovely

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<v Speaker 1>little moment between the two of them, and then off

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<v Speaker 1>they went to their their respective doomed endeavors.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, what do you mean to tell me this doesn't work?

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<v Speaker 1>It's both gonna work. Everything's gonna work. It's a one

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<v Speaker 1>season show, so next week gonna wrap all this stuff up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm triumphantly back with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Raft with some there can be just more seasons that

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<v Speaker 1>are like Gilligan's Island, like you know, island comedy. Some

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<v Speaker 1>of them just decided to stay in this nice place. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>well have hijinks, Yeah, hijinks galore. I think that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>the general reputation. The show has one season of moody

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<v Speaker 1>genre drama and then a bunch of high jinks. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think hijinks is accurate, but I think

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<v Speaker 2>the way they're perceived is maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>I think high jinks are mostly on the part of

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<v Speaker 1>the writers of the scripts. But anyway, so Son and

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<v Speaker 1>Jin had a nice moment. They made up. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed for the first time that Sun has a

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<v Speaker 1>really nice watch. Did she have that watch all along?

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't notice it? And how I just noticed that

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<v Speaker 2>her nails are very clean.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite her digging in the garden.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, well again, the Island spa has a manicares.

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<v Speaker 1>The Ellen spa absolutely. But I just when she was

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<v Speaker 1>hugging him, I noticed she had this It looked like

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<v Speaker 1>brand new out of a box watch, very shiny with

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<v Speaker 1>a leather band that was very crisp and nice looking.

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<v Speaker 1>And I just being around my house, I can break

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<v Speaker 1>and damage things. How is it possible that you can

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<v Speaker 1>be through a plane crash and live on a beach

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<v Speaker 1>or low these many days and your watch looks like

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<v Speaker 1>it just came out of a box. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the island. Have we mentioned that the island is weird?

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<v Speaker 1>It has an odd dug quality of keeping time pieces?

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<v Speaker 2>Christine, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That sort of thing should not catch your eye. Wardrobe

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<v Speaker 1>people right, like, don't introduce hair color, don't you introduce

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<v Speaker 1>new looking things? What else went on?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have Claire just holding the baby and looking

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<v Speaker 2>very worried, which I'm sure well she should, Yeah exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>You know that when Rousseau is talking about her own

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<v Speaker 2>baby and Claire is just like holding her baby tighter

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<v Speaker 2>and tighter and tighter.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just like, Yeah, I would, I would keep an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on Rousseau visa VI your baby, Claire.

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<v Speaker 2>She'll never sleep again, Claire, Oh my gosh, nor should she.

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<v Speaker 2>We've already she's already had so much trouble in that area.

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<v Speaker 2>And now Sawyer's gone. He's the only one who could

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<v Speaker 2>read to the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes, that's right. That kid's going to be crying

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<v Speaker 1>until he comes back. Vincent's going to be watching the

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<v Speaker 2>Can't take take people's comfort objects away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, poor Vincent, you know he's already.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, now he stuck with Shannon person.

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<v Speaker 1>Who is actually his master, and then he devoted himself

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<v Speaker 1>to the boy who has now left him. Although, would

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<v Speaker 1>Vincent look at that raft, buddy, you you're much better right,

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<v Speaker 1>first thing, time that thing hits a wave, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>off the edge. But yeah, Shannon, Shannon, and we got

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<v Speaker 1>the many, many flashbacks of all the different characters, including Shannon,

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<v Speaker 1>like fingering sayid to the security at the airport for

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<v Speaker 1>leaving his bag, asking her to watch his bag. So

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<v Speaker 1>fortunately he apparently does not remember that. Yeah, and uh

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<v Speaker 1>and Jack met uh met a nice lady at the

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<v Speaker 1>tail section of the plane. Did you hear she was

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<v Speaker 1>in the tail section? That would be the same section

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<v Speaker 1>of the plane as Rose's husband, would it not, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>In the bathroom. Yes, no reason, but hi, Michelle Rodriguez,

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<v Speaker 1>Wonderfu'll see you again?

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<v Speaker 2>Wonder?

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<v Speaker 1>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Also Jack mentioned he isn't married anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Right in that scene? What happened to Julie Bowen?

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<v Speaker 1>Will we get flashbacks about that sometime in the next

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<v Speaker 1>four or five years of this show?

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty sure?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking yes, But uh and uh ours. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what I don't understand. People who get frightened of something

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<v Speaker 1>that's going on and say I'm going to run back

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<v Speaker 1>through the jungle by myself to safety. Right, That doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make sense to be right? What I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 1>terribly scary, But there's a bunch of other people, So

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<v Speaker 1>if somebody's gonna get eaten, there's a possibility it's not me.

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<v Speaker 1>On the other hand, if I'm running by myself, there's

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<v Speaker 2>Any number of other disasters.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but he se numbers buddy.

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<v Speaker 2>He thinks he's you know, knows everything. Apparently he does.

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<v Speaker 1>And I resented when he said, if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>keep something secret, don't tell the fat guy because you're

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<v Speaker 1>not so svelt yourself. Mister don't be disinhurly, come on.

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<v Speaker 2>And also what like, where does that come from?

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard I guess. I guess they were going

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<v Speaker 1>and this dynamite, and I guess Hurley knew about it

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<v Speaker 1>and told ourst right.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, what is that being overweight have to do

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<v Speaker 2>with keeping a Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's true. I guess it's just the the shallow

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<v Speaker 1>person's way to remember who all these characters are. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't think that they're bending over backwards to

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<v Speaker 1>make ours particularly likable. So no, we should just call

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<v Speaker 1>him Arst because that bothers him. But or Leslie, that guy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he thinks he's pretty smart. You know what happens to

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<v Speaker 1>people on this island when they think they're pretty smart.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing good, that's fine, we won't miss them. Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, and we got more of the story about the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>the little toy plane. Thank goodness. We're dying for information

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<v Speaker 1>about the plane. We got old scene about the plane,

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<v Speaker 1>but the detective just explains the entire story, so we

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it was the whole stuff we basically already knew.

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<v Speaker 2>We still don't know how it got from the car

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<v Speaker 2>to the safe deposit box.

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<v Speaker 1>I would guess that he's the agent that's been following her.

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<v Speaker 1>He got it from the car.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he put it in the safe deposit box.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe. I think that's what he was saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, okay, all right, whatever, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>But boy, he seems like a very unpleasant fella. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>based on that scene. I mean, not that Cake comes

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<v Speaker 1>off that grade either, but he seems unnecessarily yeah, not nice.

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<v Speaker 2>So and you know, if you were going to put

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<v Speaker 2>it in a random safe deposit box in the middle

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<v Speaker 2>of New Mexico, like I don't know, maybe have have

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<v Speaker 2>like a staff member there who's who you're paying to,

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<v Speaker 2>like pictures of Kate in the in the bank, and

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<v Speaker 2>say like, if this lady shows up, that's bad news.

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<v Speaker 1>But is this how we handle evidence? Yeah, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>put in some random place this this precious piece of evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's not like it's a weapon used in

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<v Speaker 1>a crime. It's a toy airplane, right. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying really hard to make this thing significant, and

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<v Speaker 1>I guess maybe the fact that it's a plane gives

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<v Speaker 3>All right, yeah whatever, Yeah, and uh Sawyer, we saw

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<v Speaker 3>Sawyer getting well, I guess he gets arrested in a

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<v Speaker 3>bar fight and then their Australia's answer is to deport him.

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<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't living there particularly, he just went there

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<v Speaker 1>to kill somebody, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I mean like he was deporting, as in,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're out of here right now, never come back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, boy, I hope the Raft doesn't end up in

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<v Speaker 1>Australia and all sorts of trouble.

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<v Speaker 2>In trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Say, oops, can't land here. I'm going to take the

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<v Speaker 1>raft back. So I see you later. Oh goodness, ye, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>getting everybody's a little bit of backstory, Yeah, a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more before stuff starts to happen. But all of

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<v Speaker 1>this is for nothing because the Raft is gonna totally

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<v Speaker 1>find a boat right away rescue them before anything bad

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<v Speaker 1>can happens, right yay. So next Tuesday we will end

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<v Speaker 1>season one try with episode twenty four Exodus Park to

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<v Speaker 1>the exciting season finale in which the Raft lands, they

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<v Speaker 1>all get rescued and they go, ah shows up or not.

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