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Speaker 1: Jonathan and Jacob and we talk about the elongated skulls.
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Speaker 2: Hello and welcome to the show. This is the Cults
Speaker 2: of Conspiracy and my name's Jonathan. I'm Drake, and today
Speaker 2: we bring back your boy Justin from Prometheus Lens Podcast.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Cult. Brother.
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, man, I had my old man nap.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for a late night session. Brother.
Speaker 2: Hell yeah, that's the way we gonna tell you.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 4: Before we started, we started talking about the topic at
Speaker 4: hand here. And honestly, Jonathan, for as long as you
Speaker 4: and I have been doing this program, running this show,
Speaker 4: we have never done an episode about the elongated skulls.
Speaker 3: Had been found at different places around the world.
Speaker 4: It's always been a topic that I think we may
Speaker 4: have mentioned it at time or two, but we've never
Speaker 4: actually done a deep dive on it.
Speaker 3: Justin when you told us that that was what you
Speaker 3: wanting to.
Speaker 4: Get into tonight, not gonna lie, got really excited, got
Speaker 4: really excited, bro.
Speaker 1: Got bricked up again. I just got to have it
Speaker 1: of doing that to you.
Speaker 4: Brother, I'm telling you, slightly bricked, slightly bricked, no doubt.
Speaker 2: No, it is cool learning about the elongated skulls and
Speaker 2: everything because it kind of tells a little bit of
Speaker 2: a different story about you know, our past and where
Speaker 2: our genes manipulated and that whole story, you know. And
Speaker 2: then you see like there are people who were trying
Speaker 2: to emulate, you know, the elongated skulls by stretching out
Speaker 2: their baby skulls and stuff like that. So I don't know, dude,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the what the truth is behind it,
Speaker 2: but I can't wait to hear what you found.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's just one of those things that throughout
Speaker 1: studies and just look at it stuff. That was one
Speaker 1: thing that really fascinated me. And what I do is,
Speaker 1: you know, Michael Heiser said it best. He never even
Speaker 1: had original idea. It's just stumbling across and reading other
Speaker 1: people's stuff and just kind of compiling the puzzle pieces
Speaker 1: and maybe putting your opinion and perspective on the thing.
Speaker 1: So like just going through like Ala Marzouli's films and
Speaker 1: his books and being friends with like doctor jud Burton
Speaker 1: and doctor Aaron Judkins who've actually went down there to
Speaker 1: Peru and hailed these skulls and studied them and took notes.
Speaker 1: And it's pretty cool just being able to compile all
Speaker 1: this stuff and just kind of look at it and
Speaker 1: learn from these guys and stand on their shoulders.
Speaker 2: Oh man, it is. It is so great to have
Speaker 2: just a wealth of information at your fingertips, especially whenever
Speaker 2: you go down the right rabbit holes you start following
Speaker 2: the right people that are that are doing like the
Speaker 2: right kind of research and they're not doing it just
Speaker 2: for likes and shit like that, but like pure researchers,
Speaker 2: And that's that's really the people that we want to
Speaker 2: come in contact with. That's that's the people that you know,
Speaker 2: we admire, like because it's like, what are we doing
Speaker 2: on here if we're not searching for truth? Right? Like
Speaker 2: we all want to know what the truth is. I
Speaker 2: don't know where the hell we came from. We can
Speaker 2: all say that we have faith and all that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff, but you don't know. So it's cool to
Speaker 2: like come across like this kind of stuff here, and
Speaker 2: maybe it kind of paints a little bit weirder of
Speaker 2: a picture elongated skulls. Dude, I mean, what are you
Speaker 2: gonna do with that?
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say too, And we're I have
Speaker 1: the whole biblical worldview and the Nephelum giants and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. It filters just like straight through there, and
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where you go. It's the same story.
Speaker 1: It's just different verbiage and who's putting their spin, you know,
Speaker 1: or flavor to the sauce. Because the Native Americans they
Speaker 1: call them star people that they came from the stars,
Speaker 1: and then that they took their women. And then here
Speaker 1: you have these these giants that come in and they're
Speaker 1: ravaging the land and stealing stuff and just murdering their people.
Speaker 1: And then at the same time you have benevolent ones
Speaker 1: that are teaching them civilization how to grow corn and
Speaker 1: how to cultivate their crops and build these megalithic structures.
Speaker 1: And then you go to the Middle East and they
Speaker 1: have Oannus and the Seven Sages. Then you have the
Speaker 1: Nephulham giants, and Genesis six and you know Quatsi, Kettle, Vericoca.
Speaker 1: All these different cultures have very similar stories. And it's
Speaker 1: funny because when you look into these elongated skulls, they
Speaker 1: are found at all these locations where you have these
Speaker 1: kind of stories. It's like a little common thread that's
Speaker 1: left behind.
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you that next. Now I know
Speaker 3: that the image of the.
Speaker 4: Elongated skulls right now, famously this was found in Peru,
Speaker 4: and there's this one story about how the like Jonathan said,
Speaker 4: the parents to strap this to their babies heads while
Speaker 4: the hoods are still forming, to try to emulate what
Speaker 4: they thought the gods would look like. But I do
Speaker 4: know that there have been other elongated skulls that have
Speaker 4: been found across the world other than Peru. Can you, like,
Speaker 4: off the top, name a few places where we found them.
Speaker 1: They found some in Russia, they found some in Iraq
Speaker 1: and the Middle East. They found them that in South America.
Speaker 1: Trying to think, I think they even found some in China.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you find these things just scattered everywhere.
Speaker 3: I thought that in America.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, see I thought I heard something about China,
Speaker 4: But I also couldn't remember if I was getting that
Speaker 4: in feet binding mixed up, because I know China did
Speaker 4: feet binding for forever, so it's like, I'm not sure
Speaker 4: which type of deformations they did to their kids, but okay,
Speaker 4: the elongated skulls too, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And what's wild is you can you can look
Speaker 1: at them and especially like like I said, looking through
Speaker 1: doctor jud Burton's work and doctor Aaron Judkins, I mean,
Speaker 1: they're anthropologists and archaeologists. They know this stuff. You can
Speaker 1: tell by looking at them. The ones that are headboarded,
Speaker 1: they have telltale signs. They got the flat spots and
Speaker 1: the indentions, and how they wrap the head gives it
Speaker 1: a different look. Some of them are more canonical, some
Speaker 1: are more elongated towards the back, like you see a
Speaker 1: lot of the Egyptian iconography. So it's kind of like
Speaker 1: a stylization type thing. But you can look at them
Speaker 1: and see and there's telltale signs. There's a good percentage
Speaker 1: of them that they find there is no evidence of
Speaker 1: headbinding whatsoever. And as we go through some of this
Speaker 1: and go through some of my notes, I've even got
Speaker 1: documented cases of infants and fetuses still in the mother's
Speaker 1: womb that they have dug up and found these elongated heads.
Speaker 1: So this was a whoa genealogical thing. And this shows
Speaker 1: you that the people that were headbinding, this is why
Speaker 1: they were trying to emulate what they might have called
Speaker 1: their gods, their their royal class that.
Speaker 2: Is freaking nud stewed. All right, So I know that
Speaker 2: you're a Christian guy, you're kind of looking at it
Speaker 2: through a Christian lens just out of curiosity. Do they
Speaker 2: say where these elongated skull beings came from? Did they
Speaker 2: come from the sky, did they come from the dirt,
Speaker 2: did they come from the ocean? Or did they ever
Speaker 2: mention that?
Speaker 1: It doesn't just come right out and say, but like
Speaker 1: there's little hints and you've got to kind of sift
Speaker 1: through them and connect the dots yourself.
Speaker 3: I think the Native Americans called them the star people were.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I kind of like that because like in the
Speaker 1: Hebrew Bible you had the Genesis six event and it sounds,
Speaker 1: you know, almost identical to these other stories that these
Speaker 1: angelic beings came down and bred with the daughters of
Speaker 1: men and created these nephelem giants. And one of the
Speaker 1: best things I've ever discovered and I'm not some scholar,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just a layman that likes looking into
Speaker 1: this stuff. But with modern day software, you're kind of
Speaker 1: without of excuse. Now you got all these inner lineers
Speaker 1: and these concordance you know, books and things like that,
Speaker 1: and everything's hyperlinks now, so you could sit there and
Speaker 1: go through the Bible and highlight these words and look
Speaker 1: them up and see their alternate translations and mess with
Speaker 1: the context and see, you know, which fits better. Kind
Speaker 1: of like what we talked about on the last show
Speaker 1: that I came on, and you find just all kinds
Speaker 1: of like little hints like leading to these people having
Speaker 1: an elongated skulls. It doesn't just come right out and
Speaker 1: say it, but it's like the Anakim tribe. To Anakim
Speaker 1: was a Nephelin giant tribe that God's people. It was
Speaker 1: one of the people that they were to devout to
Speaker 1: destruction when they were clearing out the Holy Land. But
Speaker 1: their name in Hebrew, when you go through and look
Speaker 1: at that, that means long necked people. And some of
Speaker 1: the res searched that these scientists and doctor's degree people
Speaker 1: have looked at these elongated skulls. They're for Raymond Magnum
Speaker 1: is pushed all the way to the back, so it's
Speaker 1: basically where your spye anchors to this skull. And even
Speaker 1: with the ones with headbinding that for Raymond Magnum doesn't move,
Speaker 1: it doesn't adjust, it just just the shape of the head.
Speaker 1: It doesn't mess with where the anchor point is. But
Speaker 1: these ones that they found that they believe are you know,
Speaker 1: genetic that for Raymond Magnum is pushed all the way
Speaker 1: to the back to compensate and balance this head. And
Speaker 1: they even said in there that's it is their estimation
Speaker 1: that these heads were so irregular that they would have
Speaker 1: to have had extra long necks to compensate for the
Speaker 1: balancing of this head. So that kind of ties right
Speaker 1: into this Anakin. When I was reading through this.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, that is so crazy. It is.
Speaker 2: It is just nuts how so many stories just interlink.
Speaker 2: And you know, not to sound like that guy, but like,
Speaker 2: I think that there's really something to the coexist bumper sticker.
Speaker 2: Not saying you got to believe every one of them,
Speaker 2: but I think that there is information that you can
Speaker 2: pull from each you know, each people's story and what
Speaker 2: they believe in stuff like that. I mean I think that,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe the whole picture wasn't really painted in
Speaker 2: one book. I think that maybe you pull it from
Speaker 2: multiple books. I don't know. I mean, what are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: And that's with me is you know, I have a
Speaker 1: Christian worldview, but I do tend to ruffle some feathers
Speaker 1: because people, you know, hear me say that I have
Speaker 1: a Christian worldview and then I'm a Christian. But then
Speaker 1: they listen to my show and I'm talking to like
Speaker 1: doctor Venite Agravall and he's an expert in Hindu mythology,
Speaker 1: and we're talking about their belief system and their creation
Speaker 1: stories and their flood stories. And some people, they do
Speaker 1: they get being out of shape because they want to
Speaker 1: isolate themselves. And I'm like, how are you gonna learn anything?
Speaker 1: How are you gonna find these common threads and cipher
Speaker 1: all this stuff? Because like you said, I believe that
Speaker 1: we all have puzzle pieces, none of us has it all,
Speaker 1: and so we have to sit down and see how
Speaker 1: our stories, you know, line up, and where they differ,
Speaker 1: and exchange pieces with each other. That way we can
Speaker 1: get a fuller picture.
Speaker 2: And honestly, whenever you do that, doesn't it just like
Speaker 2: more concrete the idea that your beliefs are correct whenever
Speaker 2: you find compelling like similar stories from other lineages and
Speaker 2: from other histories and stuff like that. Like to me,
Speaker 2: that's what I would be looking for. And it seems like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know why that would rough anybody's feathers,
Speaker 2: Like you know, where nobody's changing up their philosophy or
Speaker 2: their faith just by looking into other literatures. I think
Speaker 2: it's just more of the curiosity. It's not a sin
Speaker 2: to be curious.
Speaker 1: Right, you know, That's been my experience that when I
Speaker 1: go digging into these other mythologies and start comparing and
Speaker 1: other religions and see all the common threads and things
Speaker 1: like that, it does it just solidifies my faith. It
Speaker 1: gives me like a good foundation to stand on.
Speaker 2: Right right, So you know, I had a question. This
Speaker 2: is just you know, out of my own curiosity, and
Speaker 2: it will tie back into what we're talking about here,
Speaker 2: but just out of curiosity, FRO. I just want your
Speaker 2: thoughts on if you had to imagine where Heaven and
Speaker 2: Hell are Are they in another dimension? Are they literally
Speaker 2: physically above and below us? Are the states of mind,
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: If I had to pick one, it'd probably be like
Speaker 1: a different realm. But of course they have physicality to them,
Speaker 1: because you know, when you go through the Bible, you
Speaker 1: hear about the bread of Heaven and the man I
Speaker 1: came down, so that that's physical. And then you know,
Speaker 1: like Timsey Albarino talks about all the time, it's like, well,
Speaker 1: then you have to ask the question. Then they must
Speaker 1: have crops and fields to grow this grain to make
Speaker 1: this bread. They must have a grinding and processing and
Speaker 1: processing of this manner in this wheat, and you hear
Speaker 1: about feasting and drinking, and in the Bible you have
Speaker 1: Angel showing up and having meals with Abraham, and you
Speaker 1: have all these descriptions of heaven and also Hail being
Speaker 1: like physical places, and Adam and Eve was was kicked
Speaker 1: out at this place. So it's kind of like the
Speaker 1: way I always seen it was. It was kind of
Speaker 1: like a your brain being the supercomputer and your eyes
Speaker 1: being the receiver, and you have the ability to get
Speaker 1: all channels. It's like the when I was a kid,
Speaker 1: that that box that had the card and you got
Speaker 1: the cheap channels. You got everything with that card. But
Speaker 1: then if they zapped that car boom, you only had
Speaker 1: five or six channels. It's kind of like at the Fall,
Speaker 1: our car got zapped and we were restricted on the
Speaker 1: channels that we could watch.
Speaker 2: Okay, you know, And I guess to build on that,
Speaker 2: I have heard other people, you know, people who are like,
Speaker 2: you know, into the channeling, and people who are talking
Speaker 2: to other deities and whatever. I'm not going to make
Speaker 2: this a woo woo episode, but one thing that I
Speaker 2: do find very interesting is how they say they do
Speaker 2: connect with them. And they say that in order to
Speaker 2: connect with these higher dimensional beings let's just use that
Speaker 2: as a term, call them angels, call them whatever, how
Speaker 2: they do connect with them is that they have to
Speaker 2: raise their own frequency and kind of match them and
Speaker 2: meet them in the middle. And so I just out
Speaker 2: of curious, Well, this was kind of something that I've
Speaker 2: been thinking about here lately, and I promise I'm gonna
Speaker 2: be going somewhere with this. But you know, whenever you
Speaker 2: have to raise your frequency to meet you up meet
Speaker 2: somebody else up in the middle, I almost wonder if, like,
Speaker 2: all right, so, yes, we like we perceive everything around
Speaker 2: us as physical reality, but Also, I also think that,
Speaker 2: you know, the higher dimensional beings call them angels or whatever,
Speaker 2: are also experiencing their version of physical reality, right, Like,
Speaker 2: if they are indeed higher dimensional as we as, I'm
Speaker 2: sure that we don't even like truly understand what that
Speaker 2: fuck that even means. But like, if they are, you know,
Speaker 2: higher dimensional, they seem to have kind of a physical
Speaker 2: body and they're surrounded by a physical plane. And that's
Speaker 2: just kind of strange. And the reason why I asked
Speaker 2: that is because I feel like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: people that think that like Heaven is in like somewhere
Speaker 2: in the universe, and Hell is somewhere like beneath our feet.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with that.
Speaker 2: I don't know personally, but just I think that it's
Speaker 2: more than likely that these things are interdimensional or coming
Speaker 2: from different realms, or it could just be, you know,
Speaker 2: like you said, kind of just a connector to the
Speaker 2: radio the that is your mind.
Speaker 4: Canna, let me try to all right, you on my
Speaker 4: back patio, I got an ant pile right now, to
Speaker 4: an ant inside of that ant pile that might look
Speaker 4: up and see me stepping over it to go into
Speaker 4: my house.
Speaker 3: Okay, I am in the same physical playing field that
Speaker 3: that ant is in. However, that ant has no concept
Speaker 3: of my world, my reality, my day to day, the house,
Speaker 3: a car, a kitchen where I cook my food like
Speaker 3: that ant has no and there's no way, even a
Speaker 3: few words yes in this contrived example. If I was
Speaker 3: to get to the ant's level of intelligence or something
Speaker 3: where we could communicate and I could explain to this
Speaker 3: ant what my life is like, this ant would have
Speaker 3: no not even in a dream state, not even imagination.
Speaker 3: Under ant version.
Speaker 4: Of DMT has no fucking concept of what that even
Speaker 4: looks like.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But it's in the same play micro cosms. Micro cosms.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but we are living on the same plot of land,
Speaker 4: like not even like a country mile, Like I sleep
Speaker 4: less than fifteen yards away from this ants whole world.
Speaker 3: You see what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: I think that the angelic realm, demonic realm, if you
Speaker 4: want to call it, that is physical quote unquote. I
Speaker 4: don't believe that our flesh shoots could physically go there, right,
Speaker 4: but I do believe that they exist within the same
Speaker 4: playing field, but in a completely different realm that we
Speaker 4: have no concept of if that makes sense.
Speaker 2: So kind of more like the uh what is it?
Speaker 2: The like the the Viking tree of life kind of situation.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, if we're gonna but if we're gonna take
Speaker 4: it on that uh, okay, the chakras, I'll speak to
Speaker 4: you in your language. Let me let me try to
Speaker 4: go there. Okay, gets not saying like we're living in
Speaker 4: the sacral. Now, what's like mid tier, what's like belly section?
Speaker 2: M I honestly don't know a whole lot about chakras.
Speaker 2: So I don't even know why said that was my language.
Speaker 4: Okay, fair so, but we have all seven or nine
Speaker 4: or whatever chakras within the same physical body, right, and
Speaker 4: they all work together. You can't have one without the
Speaker 4: other as a matter of fact. But this chakra down
Speaker 4: here is operating at this level. It doesn't speak the
Speaker 4: same language as this chakra. They don't even operate in
Speaker 4: the same world, but they're within the same body.
Speaker 2: So you're leaning more towards interdimensional play.
Speaker 3: Then I think it's both.
Speaker 4: I think it's yes, interdimensional but also a physical place
Speaker 4: at the same time. But like, what does a six
Speaker 4: dimensional physical place look like to a third dimensional eyeball,
Speaker 4: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: It probably a difficult story.
Speaker 1: I can't remember who it was, but they explained it
Speaker 1: pretty well that I thought anyway. But they were talking
Speaker 1: about three D worlds and two D worlds, and they
Speaker 1: drew out two stick fee a male and a female,
Speaker 1: and they said, this is Tom and this is Sally.
Speaker 1: And Tom and Sally live in their two D world.
Speaker 1: We in our third dimension world can get right face
Speaker 1: to face with Tom and Sally and they can never
Speaker 1: even know where they're And it says, and even Tom,
Speaker 1: he looks over at Sally, and he doesn't even see
Speaker 1: Sally for what she truly is. He looks over at
Speaker 1: all he sees is a straight line, and he said,
Speaker 1: And I can take this pencil, he said, and stab
Speaker 1: straight through their two D world. He said. The only
Speaker 1: thing they're going to see is a dot, a small
Speaker 1: dot getting bigger and bigger and bigger. He said, then vanish,
Speaker 1: he said, that's kind of how I perceptualize the spiritual
Speaker 1: realm and these other realms and higher entities and things
Speaker 1: like that. And I was like, yeah, to me, a simpleton,
Speaker 1: I was like, that makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Dude, Yeah, I think you explained that perfectly. I can
Speaker 2: vibe with that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I like that a lot.
Speaker 4: We are literally stick figures on a fucking notebook in
Speaker 4: the realm of the spirit world and we yep, I like.
Speaker 3: That a lot.
Speaker 2: Damn that was on it right there. I like that,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of thought process that you just you
Speaker 2: just like threw a thought bubble into my head and
Speaker 2: just created a whole different world. That's awesome. But so
Speaker 2: the reason I was asking all that is because I
Speaker 2: wanted to see. You know, some people they say that
Speaker 2: they've been seeing UFOs. Now I know that a lot
Speaker 2: of them are kind of government controlled. Maybe they have
Speaker 2: some well, they definitely have some kind of technology that
Speaker 2: we're absolutely not aware of as a result of reverse engineering,
Speaker 2: possible fallen craft, or just the advancement of technology as
Speaker 2: it proceeds and progresses along time, like through time. I
Speaker 2: could be either one of them, could be both. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I've been seeing so. Just earlier today,
Speaker 2: I was walking outside. It was my first time going
Speaker 2: outside all day. I've been sick. I've been watching just
Speaker 2: for ball and uh then we watched the Santa Claus movies.
Speaker 2: But like, uh, just laying on my couch basically all
Speaker 2: day right, just sick as a dog. And so I
Speaker 2: finally went outside earlier today I had to go pick
Speaker 2: up like a grocery order, and I looked outside and
Speaker 2: I was like, I wonder if I can see one
Speaker 2: of these things that electro Nick is always talking about, like,
Speaker 2: because I always look up, no doubt, bro, I'm always
Speaker 2: looking up and I never see anything right, Like, oh no.
Speaker 4: Now have you talked to him about his process, because
Speaker 4: somehow you always knows exactly where to look, like it's
Speaker 4: calling to him. Now when you went out and looked,
Speaker 4: did you just scan the skies? Did you go off
Speaker 4: a vibe and be like it's over my left shoulder,
Speaker 4: like what happened here?
Speaker 2: So he always talks about how it's just kind of
Speaker 2: a knowing like kind of situation there. And so I
Speaker 2: went out, and originally Luisa was going to be going
Speaker 2: to go get the groceries. I was like, you know what,
Speaker 2: I haven't been out of the house all day today.
Speaker 2: Let me go out and and I'll I'll go pick
Speaker 2: up the groceries. And so I walk outside and I
Speaker 2: look just for whatever reason. I mean, I probably will
Speaker 2: probably look up every night and try and find this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, and I look up, dude, and I
Speaker 2: see one. Finally I saw one on my own today
Speaker 2: without electro nick having a hold my hand. It was
Speaker 2: crazy and so and it just looks like a tiny
Speaker 2: little star that is just moving, that's all like a
Speaker 2: tight like not even one of the big stars, just
Speaker 2: like one of the small ones. And at first I
Speaker 2: was like, you know, cause I've been feeling sick and
Speaker 2: fevery all day. I was like, is my perception really
Speaker 2: off right now? And so I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: I thought it was just like the way I moved
Speaker 2: my head, that that's what made the star perceived to
Speaker 2: me as if it was moving. But then I stared
Speaker 2: at it and I was like, oh my god, this
Speaker 2: thing's actually moving, and it's moving at the same pace
Speaker 2: as the ones that we saw in Florida, which was
Speaker 2: pretty crazy, right, And I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 3: First Pleaadians on your own.
Speaker 2: I'll be damn well, there's Pleadians. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can all we can really do is just take
Speaker 2: Nick at his word for that. But what I saw
Speaker 2: was a seemingly look alike star that just so happened
Speaker 2: to be traversing the night sky, and and I went
Speaker 2: to go in. I was getting ready to take a
Speaker 2: step and go back into my apartment and go tell Luisa.
Speaker 2: And I wanted to get the baby. Wouldn't really give
Speaker 2: a fuck about that, but you know, I want to
Speaker 2: tell her. And as soon as I had that thought
Speaker 2: that I was getting ready to take a step to
Speaker 2: go back inside, dude, it disappeared and it's completely clear sky,
Speaker 2: no clouds at all. And I was like, ah, I
Speaker 2: guess that was just for me, all right, I appreciate that.
Speaker 2: And so have you ever seen anything like that justin
Speaker 2: where you just look up in the night sky and
Speaker 2: you feel like maybe there's a star moving, not like
Speaker 2: a comment like this thing is not shooting across the sky.
Speaker 2: It's almost like going at the speed, almost as as
Speaker 2: like what an airplane would go, but it's there's no
Speaker 2: blinking lights and they turn off and then they turn
Speaker 2: on and it's I don't know that's what Nick has
Speaker 2: told us what he, you know, views the Pleadians as
Speaker 2: or whatever. But have you ever looked up in the
Speaker 2: in saw like a UFO or anything like that.
Speaker 1: No, I have it, but I've not really spent a
Speaker 1: whole lot of time looking for them, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's kind of like the blue Honk DA Civic.
Speaker 1: You really don't notice them or see them until you
Speaker 1: get one, or you actually start paying attention and watching
Speaker 1: for them. I always thought, you know, that the stars
Speaker 1: are beautiful, especially like where I'm at there's no light pollution,
Speaker 1: and I'm way up in the mountains. You can go out,
Speaker 1: like if I'm going outside of smoke or something like that,
Speaker 1: and I look up and I'm you know, in awe
Speaker 1: a lot of times. But it's like, I love looking
Speaker 1: into astronomy and the stars and the mythology and all
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff behind it. But I'm that person
Speaker 1: I cannot pick stuff out, so I get overwhelmed. I
Speaker 1: look up, I'm like, Okay, there's the Big Dipper obviously,
Speaker 1: but the rest of them, no, I'm just lost.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm the same exact way. I don't know
Speaker 2: constellations and all that other stuff. I mean, it's cool
Speaker 2: to like look into and have other people talk about
Speaker 2: and you know, astronomy and astrology and all that fun jazz,
Speaker 2: but I wish that I understood it more, to be
Speaker 2: honest with you, So I can have a better understanding
Speaker 2: of what the hell it is I'm looking at out
Speaker 2: in the night sky.
Speaker 4: You know, we need to invest in a telescope and
Speaker 4: or do a show at an observatory one night.
Speaker 3: I think we should.
Speaker 4: We should, really should, especially now that you're moving back
Speaker 4: to Louisiana.
Speaker 3: This is something that can happen.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, well, especially one of these nights, were
Speaker 4: at the clear Night and you could see a decent
Speaker 4: shot of Mars or a Saturn or something and we
Speaker 4: could just talk that shit.
Speaker 2: Yeah you want to. I want to say, last, the
Speaker 2: Highland Observatory. You ever been to that one?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been there multiple times. They do bonfires every
Speaker 4: Friday during the summer.
Speaker 2: All right, we're doing it. We're definitely trip.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's I think LSU puts it on as
Speaker 4: a matter of fact. But so all of this to
Speaker 4: tie in here, we'll talk about aliens. We're talking about
Speaker 4: other planes of existence now to tie back into the
Speaker 4: skull elongation, right, we're saying that we have seen these
Speaker 4: primarily in Peru, but you're saying Russia and China and
Speaker 4: all these other places, Now, do all of them have
Speaker 4: a similar story about the gods that they were trying
Speaker 4: to emulate coming from the sky, or did any of
Speaker 4: them have some sort of weird nuances that you know.
Speaker 1: Of the ones that I've looked at, I mean that
Speaker 1: there might be just little different caveats, but the overall
Speaker 1: arch and theme is the same. And of course you
Speaker 1: even have the same kind of story. But like with Georgio,
Speaker 1: you have the ancient aliens or ancient astronaut theories or theorists,
Speaker 1: but it's it's the same baseline story. You know, a
Speaker 1: higher being came down and stuck their hands in Earth
Speaker 1: and messed with the gene pool and taught them to knowledge.
Speaker 1: So I mean, once again, I mean you can fight
Speaker 1: with people over verbiage and what you want to call it,
Speaker 1: but I mean it's the pretty much the same throughout
Speaker 1: the world.
Speaker 3: Damn.
Speaker 4: Now you hold up an image of one of a minute,
Speaker 4: Actually not an image, you have a whole model in
Speaker 4: your house.
Speaker 1: M hm, bro, where the hell did.
Speaker 3: You get that?
Speaker 1: You would actually laugh when I tell you I found
Speaker 1: this on Etsy?
Speaker 3: Hell yeah I did.
Speaker 1: But this is a model, uh, And it's too scale,
Speaker 1: identical to the one of the ones in Perracas. And
Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of autographs on here. I've got
Speaker 1: Timothy Albarino, Georgio from Ancient Aliens, uh La Marzouli, doctor
Speaker 1: Lor Sanger, a bunch of people. But I take this
Speaker 1: with me to conferences and just you know, accumulate autographs.
Speaker 1: But the first one I got it because I was
Speaker 1: going to meet La Marzouli for the first time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'll never forget. I got pictures and stuff. But
Speaker 1: like when I walked up with this thing, his eyes
Speaker 1: got as big as golf balls. Because he's actually been
Speaker 1: to produce several times. But he's the I think, the only.
Speaker 1: If he's not the only, he's definitely a small handful
Speaker 1: of people that has studied these things, like he has
Speaker 1: held them in his hand, he has took DNA samples,
Speaker 1: he has worked with optometrists and anthropologists and all these
Speaker 1: other specialty fields and done probably the most extensive testing
Speaker 1: on these skulls. So he knows them better than anybody. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and when I held it out, he was freaked out.
Speaker 1: He was like, oh my god, where did you get this?
Speaker 1: And then because he had.
Speaker 3: He thought it was a real he thought you had
Speaker 3: like stole artifact.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or in the very least. He thought that this
Speaker 1: was a from a mold that Joe Taylor had made.
Speaker 1: And Joe Taylor went with him on one of his
Speaker 1: trips down there, and they'd done moldings, the first moldings
Speaker 1: of these proocous skulls. So when he's seen that where
Speaker 1: it was so identical to scale, he thought it was
Speaker 1: from Joe Taylor's mold and he was like, how did
Speaker 1: you get this? Because that's supposed to be the only
Speaker 1: mold in existence, so these things are not supposed to
Speaker 1: be floating around. But he was just blown away at
Speaker 1: how identical it was, because even the saddrisseutral lines are missing,
Speaker 1: the demandible is missing. And then like I talked about
Speaker 1: the forrae and magnum, yeah, all the way in the
Speaker 1: back because in a normal skull it mounts right here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so he's just blown away at the end.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ask you this too, the little then the
Speaker 4: bumps across kind of like what would be right above
Speaker 4: our actual forehead, But on that thing, it's like the
Speaker 4: midway point. Those nodules, if you will, are those indicative
Speaker 4: of all of the skulls or that you said, there's
Speaker 4: actually there's been some differences, right, there's some flat ones,
Speaker 4: some dips and stuff like that. So what is that
Speaker 4: supposed to be on that?
Speaker 1: To tell you the truth, I've not really looked that
Speaker 1: far into it, but I do know that there's all
Speaker 1: these different and novel malise. You know, it's just like
Speaker 1: a different I don't know what you would call it,
Speaker 1: genetic markers, sure defects or or something like that. But
Speaker 1: what's wild is how the ones that are result from headbinding.
Speaker 1: They all have this sad or sutra line that all
Speaker 1: humans have, even the headbinding ones. Yeah, but these ones
Speaker 1: that they found they believe to be genetic. As you
Speaker 1: can see, Yeah, it's absent, and.
Speaker 3: I mean thinking about that first of all.
Speaker 4: First of all, before we can send you talking about
Speaker 4: this skull, because I have so many more things to
Speaker 4: bring up. But Jonathan, if any of our listeners would
Speaker 4: like to see this alien skull, this elongated skull that
Speaker 4: we're talking about so much, because you know, talking about
Speaker 4: it's one of things. But a picture's worth a thousand words, Jonathan,
Speaker 4: tell them where they can go.
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Speaker 4: And again, we cannot stress this enough. I don't know
Speaker 4: one that's very important. We know, commercial suck, I get it.
Speaker 2: Did your head just transform to an elongated skull to
Speaker 2: say that or what?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 4: I just had to I had to drop the base
Speaker 4: of my voice a little bit, you know, I can't
Speaker 4: just throw that out for everybody. So I love this
Speaker 4: fucking soundboard dude. Anyway, Okay, so back to these skulls here.
Speaker 4: You're saying that line and with the line you're talking
Speaker 4: about here is for anybody who doesn't can't see this.
Speaker 4: When you look at a human skull, there's usually the
Speaker 4: X marker across the top, right, and that's where the
Speaker 4: skull finishes forming after the child is born. Right, Whenever
Speaker 4: a baby is born, very top of the skull is
Speaker 4: still not bone yet. It's still open pretty much, and
Speaker 4: we have to be very careful with babies.
Speaker 3: It takes a.
Speaker 4: Little bit longer for the brain to finish forming, and
Speaker 4: that's so that the baby can easily squeeze through the.
Speaker 3: Pelvic canal of a woman. And I get this.
Speaker 4: You look at that elongated skull, and let's just say
Speaker 4: that this wasn't from binding. Let's say this was one
Speaker 4: of the examples like you're saying, because this doesn't have
Speaker 4: that line going down it. This was genetic. This baby
Speaker 4: was born this way, right. I don't think the skull
Speaker 4: would have any issue coming out, Mom, Gonna be honest
Speaker 4: with you, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's kind of.
Speaker 2: Built for right, Yeah, I was actually thinking about this too.
Speaker 2: So whenever my niece was born, my oldest niece, whenever
Speaker 2: she was born, she had like her head got stuck
Speaker 2: in the canal, right, And dude, her fucking skull was
Speaker 2: looking a little bit like that, right, And I was
Speaker 2: just thinking, I mean, instead of you know, hiking up
Speaker 2: some kind of rods to be able to stretch these
Speaker 2: skulls out, wouldn't they just couldn't they just leave the
Speaker 2: skulls in there a little bit longer and have the
Speaker 2: vaginal canal stretch it out for them.
Speaker 3: But not always. The case depends on the childbirth right.
Speaker 1: As the skullcap right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the other thing too.
Speaker 4: If this, let's say it was because same situation my
Speaker 4: youngest right, my baby boy when he was born. My
Speaker 4: wife is a tiny framed woman with a very small
Speaker 4: hit frame. Okay, this child was over ten pounds. Needless
Speaker 4: to say, it was an emergency c section. Neither here
Speaker 4: nor there after, like thirty four hours of trying to
Speaker 4: push the top of his head was cone shaped as hell.
Speaker 4: You could clearly see where like the pelvic bones started
Speaker 4: and where the rest of this child began. It was
Speaker 4: there was no fucking way this child was coming out
Speaker 4: of this.
Speaker 3: Let's be honest with you, not even for the skin.
Speaker 4: The bones would have had to have snapped to make
Speaker 4: that happen, but neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: I know you feel bad when you're looking at it too.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh, I just did my sister just give
Speaker 2: birth to fucking dan Ackroyd back in the nineties, or
Speaker 2: what's going on over here? Dude?
Speaker 4: It wasn't my first time seeing a baby with that
Speaker 4: kind of struggle, so I didn't think nothing of it
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: But my point is, though, even in.
Speaker 4: The most extreme cases of that, right talking ancient times
Speaker 4: eight hundred years ago, where like it may have taken
Speaker 4: a woman three days to have a child, maybe that
Speaker 4: head would have been lodged there for who fucking knows. Fine,
Speaker 4: let's say this was to naturally happen that skull, give
Speaker 4: it six months. I could probably give it two months,
Speaker 4: but just for the sake of argument, an extreme case,
Speaker 4: six months, that skull would have formed back to the
Speaker 4: natural way it's supposed to go.
Speaker 3: And even if it didn't, even if.
Speaker 4: This was that one rarest of cases of somebody who
Speaker 4: just accidentally naturally had a crazy cone shaped head, fine,
Speaker 4: it would be a one off, not groups of them
Speaker 4: in a tribal setting with gods that had the same
Speaker 4: type of image. You see what I'm saying, There's no
Speaker 4: way that this was by accident.
Speaker 2: Well, I was just looking up over here, and I'll
Speaker 2: share the screen to be able to show what I've
Speaker 2: been looking at over here. I just typed in elongated
Speaker 2: skulls on Google, and it talks about all the different
Speaker 2: people who you know, you can find these elongated skulls
Speaker 2: with talks about the Maya, the Parakas, the Alcone, al Cone,
Speaker 2: the Apache, Mojave, Yuma, and Pueblo Indians, along with the
Speaker 2: Mayans in Mexico, Nicaragua and Costa Rica, Guatemala, Jamaica, Cuba,
Speaker 2: Puerto Rico, and the Andean region of South America, and
Speaker 2: they all are talking about a artificial cranial deformation. None
Speaker 2: of them are agreeing that any of this is any
Speaker 2: kind of alien. They're just saying, oh, it's just all artificial.
Speaker 2: None of them talk about how you know what you
Speaker 2: were just talking about before, as far as like the
Speaker 2: skulls already looking elongated before they're even coming out of
Speaker 2: the mother's womb. So it's It's like, this is the
Speaker 2: kind of stuff that you know, It really just makes
Speaker 2: you scratch your head because if there is proof that
Speaker 2: a lot of these you know, deformed skulls were happening
Speaker 2: within the womb before being stretched out or before having
Speaker 2: rods to elongate their skulls, it would be something that
Speaker 2: either they are too dumb and they didn't do enough
Speaker 2: research or it's a cover up. And now why would
Speaker 2: they cover it up? Is my big question? I mean,
Speaker 2: do they do they want to cover up aliens? Do
Speaker 2: they want to cover up nephelum? I mean, what are
Speaker 2: your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: Justin And that's the thing because these scientists stuff, they
Speaker 1: have to be in two camps because they're not ignorant.
Speaker 1: So it's like they are either in straight up denial,
Speaker 1: because if you think about it, these are not the standard,
Speaker 1: they're the exception. And with any exception, there's a lot
Speaker 1: fewer count and a lot fewer number and it doesn't
Speaker 1: matter where you go. Like we talked about all these
Speaker 1: different cultures, a lot of them talk about seven there
Speaker 1: were seven sages. There was seven magi wise men sages
Speaker 1: that come with o Annas. When Vericocha came out he
Speaker 1: had seven Vericocha like disciples with him, So it's like
Speaker 1: these true elongated ones, there was just a very small,
Speaker 1: select pure blood type of hybrid being, and then the
Speaker 1: ones they chose to breed with, they probably passed some
Speaker 1: of these anomenal he's on to the children. So this
Speaker 1: is a very small pool. So where these scientists are
Speaker 1: finding all these headbinded ones, they're just saying, oh, well,
Speaker 1: ninety percent of them can be explained. There's only a
Speaker 1: very small percentage that's not explained by conventional science. But
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's an exclamation. There is no supernatural there
Speaker 1: is no such thing as ET's alien, so therefore it's
Speaker 1: just we've not figured out why yet. So it's kind
Speaker 1: of like they're in denial.
Speaker 4: But then recently they're admitting more and more about aliens
Speaker 4: being real, but.
Speaker 1: Like a yeah, and then there's a certain small handful
Speaker 1: that knows the truth and they're suppressing that truth. Whether
Speaker 1: it's to quote unquote to protect the population, not to
Speaker 1: get them freaked out, or it's they want to find
Speaker 1: out if there's any of these things left, if they
Speaker 1: can hybridize them, genetically modify them, if there's any kind
Speaker 1: of technological or knowledge type stuff they can pull from
Speaker 1: these entities. It's kind of like scientists that find a
Speaker 1: new discovery. They don't come right out and tell everybody
Speaker 1: they've done it. They repeat the process and make sure
Speaker 1: they can replicate it and that, you know, and do
Speaker 1: all these spel safe tests before they make sure they
Speaker 1: milk it dry or they let the public know.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So that's what I believe. I believe these scientists are
Speaker 1: either in denial because they are the exception and not
Speaker 1: the rule, or the small handful that know that just
Speaker 1: keep it under wraps.
Speaker 2: Well, there's you know, there's mainstream science. There is what
Speaker 2: is commonly accepted by the you know, the masses of
Speaker 2: whoever is controlling the narrative of science. And then there's
Speaker 2: the people who kind of go off the beaten path
Speaker 2: and they do their own research, they do their own
Speaker 2: scientific you know, reasonings or whatever they do, and those
Speaker 2: people are typically not looked at in a in a
Speaker 2: light manner.
Speaker 3: Like.
Speaker 2: Those people are typically shunned because they believe maybe they
Speaker 2: believe in the ether, or maybe they believe that, you know,
Speaker 2: just talking about like Graham Hancock, maybe they believe that
Speaker 2: there was some kind of asteroid, And you know, like
Speaker 2: it's like those people for some reason they can't mesh
Speaker 2: with what mainstream science is. And I understand it, but
Speaker 2: only to a point. Like I anytime you say, well,
Speaker 2: this is actual proof that there were aliens or elongated
Speaker 2: skulls or something like that, why on earth is that
Speaker 2: so hard for mainstream science to accept? Is it because
Speaker 2: it changes their narrative? Does it make them look like
Speaker 2: they're too stupid and they didn't look into it? Does
Speaker 2: it make the people that are bringing it up look
Speaker 2: a lot smarter? And does it knock the you know,
Speaker 2: mainstream science down a notch.
Speaker 1: Right legacy and ego? Because you have people that has
Speaker 1: dedicated twenty thirty years of their life to specializing in
Speaker 1: a certain field and they are the leading expert. They
Speaker 1: don't want to let that go. If they admit that
Speaker 1: they were wrong, they lose their notoriety, they lose that
Speaker 1: authority position, and their life's work is flushed down the commode.
Speaker 1: So I think even some of these people that hold
Speaker 1: to certain ideas, they have to know that they're wrong
Speaker 1: and that or they have a high probability of being
Speaker 1: wrong in these some of these other people have good
Speaker 1: ideas or good theories or speculations. It's just they will
Speaker 1: never admit that because then they have to step down
Speaker 1: from their throne and their life's work is meaningless.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just really a shame that science got political,
Speaker 2: and we saw exactly what that manifested into itself back
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty. And basically, you know, the rest is history.
Speaker 2: But you know, it's just crazy. Whenever you got people
Speaker 2: disagreeing with each other, even whenever you're showing actual artifacts
Speaker 2: or actual facts in general or stuff like that, I
Speaker 2: can't look at that. That doesn't apply to what I understand.
Speaker 2: It's like, God, damn, dude.
Speaker 3: Take it back to the back in the day.
Speaker 4: How many times have we read stories about like Admiral
Speaker 4: Bird is coming to mind, but not even him. Right,
Speaker 4: there's these Global Exploration Society or the World Adventurer Society, Right,
Speaker 4: These really wealthy explorer types, all of them somehow just
Speaker 4: come together in England once a year to sip scotch
Speaker 4: and tell tales of their travels to Africa and their
Speaker 4: travels to the North Pole and all these things.
Speaker 3: Right, we've heard these stories.
Speaker 4: These dudes at a certain point, they were self funded, right,
Speaker 4: they were like nobility class guys.
Speaker 3: But eventually they.
Speaker 4: Couldn't fund their own explorations to come and big diket
Speaker 4: to their boys about what they did over the summer.
Speaker 4: So then they had to start looking for wealthy benefactors
Speaker 4: to fund their research and their exploration and all this stuff.
Speaker 4: And that's all fine and good to a point, but
Speaker 4: then they realized that if they come back with no
Speaker 4: story and no big findings and nothing interesting to talk about,
Speaker 4: it won't get the funding. And then it gets to
Speaker 4: a point to where the person writing the check says, Hey,
Speaker 4: I really really am into.
Speaker 3: This type of thing.
Speaker 4: Dot dot dot name, your flavor doesn't matter, and I
Speaker 4: am really interested in finding this, So if you could,
Speaker 4: I can fund more research out in that direction.
Speaker 3: But if nothing is found there, well we're just gonna
Speaker 3: scrub the project.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the scientist who's trying to have a job for
Speaker 4: the next fifteen years. Oh, we found this. We did
Speaker 4: find this one thing. I will say this, Yeah, what
Speaker 4: didn't mention it? But we found this one thing. It
Speaker 4: could be dot dot dot. It all gets blurred, you
Speaker 4: see what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seems like a dude, it's just crazy. But
Speaker 2: all right, I want to get back to this elongated
Speaker 2: skull and just see, you know what kind of research
Speaker 2: you've really done into this? Is it understood that the
Speaker 2: like was the people with the elongated skulls? Were they
Speaker 2: like smarter? Do they have bigger brains? I mean, does
Speaker 2: a bigger brain necessarily mean that you're smarter if you're
Speaker 2: looking at just the mass of the brain. I don't
Speaker 2: know how that works. But what would be the reason
Speaker 2: or is it just you know, like why would you
Speaker 2: elong get your skull?
Speaker 1: And see, that's what I wanted to say earlier. I
Speaker 1: didn't want to interrupt you guys because you were talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, why do scientists believe this or ignore this?
Speaker 1: And that was something I wanted to bring up. Is
Speaker 1: like any good researcher, why should be one of the
Speaker 1: first questions with anything that you're looking into. Why would
Speaker 1: they do this? If this is headbinding? Why?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: This? This takes a lot of time, patience and pain.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine the pressure, the constant pressure on your
Speaker 1: braincasing as you get this deformation, especially as an infant,
Speaker 1: and you're going to do this to your newborn child? Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: it's important, So it's no different than Like I've said
Speaker 1: to people on the show, it's kind of like Morgan
Speaker 1: Wallen in the Mullet. He brought the mullet back, but
Speaker 1: all it took was for him, someone famous, someone that
Speaker 1: the culture looked up to and idolized, to do something,
Speaker 1: And every single thirteen to twenty five year old man
Speaker 1: cut their hair just like him and brought the mullet back.
Speaker 1: And that's what kind of what this is. This is
Speaker 1: the ancient version of the mullet.
Speaker 2: Oh shit.
Speaker 1: They were emulating someone that they held in high regard
Speaker 1: and wanted it to be.
Speaker 3: Like so I've heard that and I don't know.
Speaker 4: I've heard that they did this to emulate their gods
Speaker 4: or a specific god or something like that, and that
Speaker 4: very well could be the case.
Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily a shit is what.
Speaker 1: They said in South America.
Speaker 4: I mean, and there's examples, but that also doesn't make
Speaker 4: all of the sense to me, Like you have a
Speaker 4: god figure that has a skull like this cool, doing
Speaker 4: that to yourself, right, this makes sense? Doing it to
Speaker 4: your child that it doesn't. It doesn't check out to me,
Speaker 4: Like if they were doing this to try to emulate it,
Speaker 4: did they think that this would give them some sort
Speaker 4: of godlike powers.
Speaker 3: Did they think this would make them smarter? Or in?
Speaker 3: What were going? Like? You know what I mean? Was
Speaker 3: it just for the look.
Speaker 4: That sounds wild to me, But again it's because I'm
Speaker 4: looking at it from my perspective.
Speaker 1: I guess it's veneration, because if you look at the
Speaker 1: ancient cultures, all the things that they did for veneration,
Speaker 1: to us it sounds crazy, It's like, why'd you do that?
Speaker 1: But they were stretching their ear lobes, you know, the
Speaker 1: big ear pieces you see and stuff from Easter Island,
Speaker 1: all that that showed status symbol. The longer the ear
Speaker 1: and the bigger the holes, the higher class person you was.
Speaker 1: And when the Spaniards went down into South America, they
Speaker 1: talked about seeing amongst these people all these dark skinned
Speaker 1: people that couldn't grow facial hair. I mean, they have
Speaker 1: their certain genetic markers. But they said, amongst these people
Speaker 1: with some pale skin, people with elongated heads, and the
Speaker 1: men had full beards, dick beards like they did. And
Speaker 1: they asked the Peruvians, who are these people? And they
Speaker 1: say that they are the remnant of the very coachin
Speaker 1: is saying that these people are the genetic leftovers of
Speaker 1: these gods.
Speaker 3: And where the people.
Speaker 1: That the Spaniards that came down into Peru in South
Speaker 1: America when they first started coming into there, that they
Speaker 1: documented them in some of these explorers journals. And they
Speaker 1: seen these pale, skin fully bearded men, and they had
Speaker 1: elongated skulls, and they stood out like a sore thumb
Speaker 1: in the population. So they asked, you know, who are
Speaker 1: these people, and that's what they said. They said that
Speaker 1: they are the remnant of the Vera coaches.
Speaker 3: See even that, Yeah, and when you.
Speaker 1: Look into Veracocha. Brian Forster wrote a really good book
Speaker 1: called The Path of Avercocha, and their tradition says that
Speaker 1: you know, Vericocha came and taught them, you know, how
Speaker 1: to build these great you know, architectural buildings, taught them
Speaker 1: how to grow crops. That he was a world civilizer.
Speaker 1: You know. It's the same filter as the Book of
Speaker 1: Enoch and Genesis six. They came down, they bred with
Speaker 1: the daughters of men, made hybrids, and they taught them
Speaker 1: all this quote unquote forbidden knowledge. They were world civilizers.
Speaker 1: But it describes this path that they took, and it
Speaker 1: has cities listed that they went to, and when you
Speaker 1: draw a line and track their path, they called that
Speaker 1: the path of Viracocha. And every single one of those
Speaker 1: cities and every single town that is in line with
Speaker 1: those cities to that path, every single one. You find
Speaker 1: megalithic structures, you find advanced civilization, and you find elongated skulls.
Speaker 2: Whoa dude, So I just looked it up. This. I
Speaker 2: have never heard of the Verracocha before in my life,
Speaker 2: which is interesting because I feel like we cover a
Speaker 2: lot of weird shit on here for us to never
Speaker 2: have come across that term.
Speaker 1: So I look, additions are wild?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just did a little research. Just went to
Speaker 2: the Britannica, which is like an encyclopedia kind of thing,
Speaker 2: and it says Vericocha or the creator deity. Originally worshiped
Speaker 2: by the pre Inca inhabitants of Peru and later assimilated
Speaker 2: into the Inca pantheon. He was believed to have created
Speaker 2: the sun and moon on Lake titty Kaka. It's one
Speaker 2: of my favorite words to say, titty Kaka word. But
Speaker 2: it says, according to tradition, after forming the rest of
Speaker 2: the heavens and the earth, Vericocha wandered around, wandered through
Speaker 2: the world, at teaching men the arts of civilization at Manta,
Speaker 2: which we would know is Ecuador. He walked westward across
Speaker 2: the Pacific, promising to return one day. He was sometimes
Speaker 2: represented as an old man wearing a beard a symbol
Speaker 2: of water gods, it says, in a long robe, and
Speaker 2: carrying a staff.
Speaker 6: Holy whoahit?
Speaker 1: How have I never the reason why the Spaniards took
Speaker 1: over South America so quickly, Because in their tradition Vera
Speaker 1: Coocha said that he made it to the coast, and
Speaker 1: him and his followers loaded up on a boat and
Speaker 1: sailed away. But he promised to come back, and that
Speaker 1: when he came back, you know, it'd basically be like
Speaker 1: a heaven coming down to Earth, that the Golden Age
Speaker 1: would return, and he was going to do all these things.
Speaker 1: So when the Spaniards came up river on their exploration,
Speaker 1: they were looking for gold. They were treasure hunters, basically mercenaries,
Speaker 1: treasure hunters. And when they come up the river on
Speaker 1: their boat, they seen them. They seen them, these till men,
Speaker 1: pale skin, thick beards, and then they had on this chrome
Speaker 1: armor glowing like a god, and that it looked identical
Speaker 1: to their stories of Verrakochia, and Vera Coacha said he
Speaker 1: would return, and he left on a boat. So the
Speaker 1: word spread that Vericocha had returned and all his warriors
Speaker 1: that were with him, those were the Vera Coach were his,
Speaker 1: those were his apostles. So when they showed up, they
Speaker 1: welcomed them with open arms, showered them with golden gifts,
Speaker 1: and then the conquisadors was like, hey, hate you got
Speaker 1: any more gold if you're giving it up man, And
Speaker 1: they just handed them over everything, and they took advantage
Speaker 1: of these people's cultures and their beliefs, and they just
Speaker 1: posed themselves as their gods and walked out an entire civilization.
Speaker 1: They satan dropped the drwbridge and let them ride in.
Speaker 2: This is freaking awesome.
Speaker 4: So I heard we actually did an episode about something similar.
Speaker 4: We had just talked about the whole white god symbol
Speaker 4: from the stories of and again it's not all of
Speaker 4: the religions talked about this white god, but the god
Speaker 4: that the Spaniards came back and.
Speaker 3: Said, oh, well, he was a white guy or whatever.
Speaker 4: There was never any depiction of his skin color However,
Speaker 4: there was absolutely depictions of them being taller and with
Speaker 4: a beard, which was something that these local inhabitants did
Speaker 4: not have.
Speaker 3: For sure.
Speaker 4: Then I'm looking up more about the Mochi or I'm
Speaker 4: probably pronouncing that their culture.
Speaker 3: They had all kinds of depictions of dudes with.
Speaker 4: Beards talking about that culture, which was like a pre
Speaker 4: incing culture. So it's like that, at least the idea
Speaker 4: of these great big dudes with big beards.
Speaker 3: In an area where that was not commonplace. I mean, dude, what, Yo?
Speaker 3: Check out that image I forgot. Yes, yes they do.
Speaker 4: I don't know who the artist is that made this image,
Speaker 4: but he's done this with every pantheon of God's making
Speaker 4: him look like Marvel superheroes.
Speaker 5: Yo.
Speaker 3: Blow that shit up. That's fucking fire.
Speaker 2: Isn't that awesome?
Speaker 3: Dude?
Speaker 2: Let's see.
Speaker 4: Oh I saw it. This was a couple of years
Speaker 4: back on Facebook. He had done this with like the
Speaker 4: Egyptian gods and the Mayan gods and all that, and
Speaker 4: they were fucking sick.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, dude, why does uh Kataquil kind of look
Speaker 2: like oh what is his name?
Speaker 1: Yeah? The stone guy? I was thinking our stone guys,
Speaker 1: the purple skin stone looking.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does kind of look like Danos a little bit.
Speaker 2: And also, damn, I cannot remember his name. Uh the
Speaker 2: newer guy that got canceled because he allegedly raped somebody.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but oh he's talking about the old
Speaker 4: uh silver bullet and I so shit, I was thinking
Speaker 4: quicksilver or I was thinking something else a flash.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no he was he was grooming little kids. No,
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about I'm talking about Oh Kang, the Emperor.
Speaker 2: Kang kind of looks like this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no shit, I see it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is crazy, dude, wild shit.
Speaker 4: So yeah, this, So you're saying that these these they
Speaker 4: were doing it to try to emulate these higher beings
Speaker 4: or gods or something like that. Now, I mean, we
Speaker 4: have no way of knowing how these people live their
Speaker 4: lives with these elongated skulls other than these accounts. I
Speaker 4: wonder if these people like, like, were they okay you
Speaker 4: know what I mean, like with a head like that,
Speaker 4: were they like functioning?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And that's the thing too, is like like some of
Speaker 1: the notes I got, you know, Brian Forster lives down there.
Speaker 1: You know, he's kind of assimilated into the culture. He
Speaker 1: knows the local legends, he knows the people. They trust him,
Speaker 1: they tell him the stories that's been passed down and stuff.
Speaker 1: But La Marzouli went down there with a team. It
Speaker 1: was in twenty and thirteen and twenty fourteen, and doctor
Speaker 1: Jedd Burton went with him, doctor An Judkins, and they
Speaker 1: investigated these skulls and they are the only ones that's
Speaker 1: actually done DNA samples on these skulls. And you remember
Speaker 1: how I mentioned that they sounded Middle Eastern, that they
Speaker 1: had the long robes, paler skin, bullbeards. Well, when they've
Speaker 1: done this these samples that they found that that these
Speaker 1: elongated skulls, the ones that were not from headbinding, that
Speaker 1: they were not indigenous to South America, and that most
Speaker 1: of them came from Europe in the Middle East. They
Speaker 1: tested highly positive for the gene strand T two B
Speaker 1: and that that comes from the Middle Eastern and the
Speaker 1: Levant area. So there were some so there were some wats,
Speaker 1: and it goes along with their stories that they came
Speaker 1: from the East. They were pale skinned, had these beards,
Speaker 1: and it is their theory that because of course Ala Marzoulia,
Speaker 1: he's got the biblical world view too. And what he
Speaker 1: says is that when Joshua and Caleb and the boys
Speaker 1: were coming out of Exus and clearing the Holy Land
Speaker 1: of these Nephelone giant tribes. Because a lot of people
Speaker 1: get hung up and they're like, oh, that's a mean,
Speaker 1: nasty god that endorses genocide, well every single tribe, because
Speaker 1: if you look and map it out, there are people
Speaker 1: groups in tribes that they went right by and never
Speaker 1: even attacked or bothered. But all the tribes that were
Speaker 1: listed were giant clans and giant tribes. They were these
Speaker 1: hybrid offspring beings. So he says that he thinks that
Speaker 1: there was a great diaspora that once they started moving
Speaker 1: through the Holy Land and taking out these tribes and
Speaker 1: just kept winning battle after battle, that these were, you know,
Speaker 1: like the Phoenicians, they were great seafaring people that they
Speaker 1: grabbed their stuff and packed ship and they jumped on
Speaker 1: these ships and took off to settle and explore new
Speaker 1: lands to stay alive. And that's why you find all
Speaker 1: this same story spread out, the same kind of culture,
Speaker 1: the same elongated skulls and characteristics of these people, and
Speaker 1: you even find remnants in archaeology remember how I talked
Speaker 1: about you guys last time. In Sardinia, you have the
Speaker 1: same traditions of these Nephelim giants passing the children through
Speaker 1: the fire, the mathons dancing in the street with the
Speaker 1: harry goat demons. And then at the northern tip of Africa,
Speaker 1: they found a big pillar with ancient Phoenician script and
Speaker 1: it said that we, the Phoenicians, lay claim to this
Speaker 1: land because we were run out of ours by the
Speaker 1: great robber Joshua. So it was since telling you that
Speaker 1: they were pushed out, and they were and they took
Speaker 1: off on the run. And then it goes into North America,
Speaker 1: the copper mines of Michigan. That copper is unique, it's
Speaker 1: more unique, and it has distinct markers unlike any other
Speaker 1: in the world. It's ninety eight point eight percent pure.
Speaker 1: But you find the scientists have said, it's like, I
Speaker 1: can't remember how many millions, maybe billions of pounds of
Speaker 1: copper that are missing from these mines up in northern Michigan.
Speaker 1: But you find all of this copper throughout the world, China, Africa,
Speaker 1: the levant, Europe, and they all test ninety eight point
Speaker 1: eight percent pure, showing you that that's where it came from,
Speaker 1: because these seafaring people, these Phoenicians, these Nephelum tribes were
Speaker 1: traveling to North America and mining this copper during the
Speaker 1: Bronze Age and spreading it out over the world. And
Speaker 1: now you even have it proof in DNA testing with
Speaker 1: these parocous skulls of South America.
Speaker 3: No, dude, let me ask you this though, I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: you go ahead, go ahead. Here's the saying.
Speaker 1: Oh, but I was gonna say it said, but it
Speaker 1: happened to show that the pinpoint and all the samples,
Speaker 1: nothing nuclear was found, proving the samples had no modern
Speaker 1: DNA on them. They took extreme care, wearing suits, gloves,
Speaker 1: masks and all at all times in the presence of
Speaker 1: the skulls. And one of the skulls tested was a
Speaker 1: baby skull that dated back just shy of two thousand
Speaker 1: years old. But of course this is carbon dating and
Speaker 1: that's that's the best we got. But fair, I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not down with it. I don't trust it. It
Speaker 1: tested positive for the geneenome strand of U two e one,
Speaker 1: and this was European descent.
Speaker 4: Now when you say European, now are we talking like
Speaker 4: the northern Europe, like Denmark. We're talking like South Europe,
Speaker 4: like Turkey. You know what I mean, Europe's got a
Speaker 4: wide span on it.
Speaker 1: And that's what that gene Strand is because it's so.
Speaker 6: Big.
Speaker 1: It's like that gene Strand is like just a big
Speaker 1: hotspot circle of that general area.
Speaker 3: Well, when you said like Persia and the Arabic area,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 4: That is such a crossroads for everything from a to
Speaker 4: Africa to Europe to everything in between. So I mean
Speaker 4: it really could just be any mixture of them. But
Speaker 4: you when you said, now you're saying like the Phoenicians,
Speaker 4: excuse me, and like it got me thinking, as we're
Speaker 4: just talking here, Jonathan, this will blow your fucking mind,
Speaker 4: because it just did mine.
Speaker 3: If we are to believe that maybe these born.
Speaker 4: Into it elongated skull people were of Arabic and Levant descent,
Speaker 4: and maybe they were the descendants of a Phoenician tribe
Speaker 4: that just got booted out of their land or something
Speaker 4: to that. Realm, Jonathan, just off the top of your head,
Speaker 4: do you know which god in the Phoenician pantheon had
Speaker 4: an elongated skull?
Speaker 2: I don't have one coming to mind.
Speaker 3: Fucking Bail.
Speaker 4: Dude, Bail had the elongated skull. As we are just
Speaker 4: talking about potential demonic and nephylemic impersonations here, we got
Speaker 4: dudes on the other side of the globe doing the
Speaker 4: ball thing.
Speaker 2: So I don't know, Wow, that's pretty crazy. I didn't
Speaker 2: know the ball actually incarnated into physical form that was
Speaker 2: more of a demograton and I got him.
Speaker 1: As a bull than I got him. He's got this,
Speaker 1: you know, long rectangular head with like horns, and whether
Speaker 1: it was a hay helmet or that was his actual
Speaker 1: head covering, but that's how he's depicted.
Speaker 3: And they have other the showdown.
Speaker 4: As a matter of fact, between God and Bail, the
Speaker 4: idol that they were praying to was an elongated headgud.
Speaker 4: They were trying to call it to make fire happen.
Speaker 3: It was a whole thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, dude, let me blow your mind on top
Speaker 2: of that. Okay, because this was something that I was
Speaker 2: talking about on the last episode about Hathor and the
Speaker 2: woman in the red dress and stuff like that, Well,
Speaker 2: me and Sean ended up doing an episode. We went
Speaker 2: a lot deeper into what the what the hell all
Speaker 2: that is? Talking about? Sec Met who is the daughter
Speaker 2: of Raw, and then you know that that yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: she's a cat person kind of being who she happened
Speaker 2: to cuddle me one night, which was very weird. I
Speaker 2: was tripping on mushrooms. It's a long story. Maybe it
Speaker 2: was her, I don't know, but anyway, so I was
Speaker 2: looking into that and looking in about how seg Met
Speaker 2: was like real blood thirsty, and Raw was like, yo,
Speaker 2: you're killing all of our fucking people. If you kill everybody,
Speaker 2: there's not gonna be anybody left to worship us. And
Speaker 2: so basically he fooled her into drinking all this this
Speaker 2: red beer or whatever. There's like this long story, but
Speaker 2: he fooled her into drinking all this red beer, which
Speaker 2: she ended up actually liking a lot more than blood.
Speaker 2: And so whenever she woke up the next day, the
Speaker 2: story goes that whenever she woke up the next day,
Speaker 2: she came to her senses and she started feeling really
Speaker 2: bad for all the people that she was killing, just
Speaker 2: so that she can, you know, have all their blood
Speaker 2: and everything. And then she turned into like transformed into
Speaker 2: a whole nother deity. She goes from Sekmet into what
Speaker 2: is known as hathor and Hathor is a very interesting
Speaker 2: thing because.
Speaker 1: There it goes, what's that she's a fertility guys, she's
Speaker 1: like the guy at Mother Earth to protect.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, well here's the crazy story about Hathor. So
Speaker 2: you already had who she was before, which you segment right, Well,
Speaker 2: seg Met was always depicted as the cat or like
Speaker 2: a like a lioness or a cat or something along
Speaker 2: those lines. Well, whenever she transforms into Hathor, she's understood
Speaker 2: to be seen as a as like a cow, like
Speaker 2: a bull. Kind of situation there, right, And so we
Speaker 2: started looking a little bit more into that story.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 2: This ties into the Bible a little bit, and I
Speaker 2: think that both of you might might actually get a
Speaker 2: kick out of it if it's to be believed. I
Speaker 2: don't know if this is confirmed or whatever. Thank you.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's confirmed or whatever. But we
Speaker 2: were kind of just drawing some strings here, and what
Speaker 2: we found is that Hathor was allegedly who the people
Speaker 2: were building the Golden Calf story whenever Moses went up
Speaker 2: into Mount Sinai.
Speaker 3: Right, that makes sense.
Speaker 4: A fertility there coming out of Egypt and they got
Speaker 4: to replenish their numbers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that does this makes sense.
Speaker 2: That's fucking nuts, right, And so some people are well,
Speaker 2: like they usually always whenever they're talking about the golden calf,
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, it's Bail, it's Bail, it's Bail. Could
Speaker 2: it be could it also be athor like if we're
Speaker 2: talking about Egyptian mythology, like that's that t hies perfectly
Speaker 2: into the story.
Speaker 4: Well, now, the Egyptians didn't have Bail, right, Egyptian didn't
Speaker 4: have him in their in their pantheon. They knew him
Speaker 4: as a god of another tribe, but they did have
Speaker 4: golden calves.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And so it was like it all shows up in
Speaker 1: that story as like a spiritual warfare thing that a
Speaker 1: lot of people miss. When they're coming up to the
Speaker 1: Red Sea. There's a part in there where God tells
Speaker 1: his people to turn like they're head in this certain direction.
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, God tells them to turn in
Speaker 1: an opposite direction and stop set up camp. And it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: we got the Egyptians coming after this, and we're stuck
Speaker 1: in between this mountain ridge and this waterway. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you want us to stop. That doesn't make sense, but
Speaker 1: it tells them to turn towards bales of Fawn, and
Speaker 1: bales of Fawn was on the opposite side of the
Speaker 1: Red Sea. But that was Bale's holy mountain. That's where
Speaker 1: his divine council assembled. And he was a storm god.
Speaker 1: He was a fertility god, and he was a storm god.
Speaker 1: So this was wow basically a spiritual warfare type thing
Speaker 1: where God is saying, okay, storm God, hold my beer
Speaker 1: and watch this, because I'm going to divide this Red
Speaker 1: Sea with what a strong east wind, and you got
Speaker 1: to stand there and watch.
Speaker 4: And then protect their backside with a wall of fire
Speaker 4: so they can safely cross.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny about what's funny about that whole
Speaker 2: red Sea? That's the Nile, isn't it?
Speaker 3: No, the Red season, the Red Sea?
Speaker 2: Yeah, separate things.
Speaker 1: Caterpillar licking piece of water in Saudi Arabia.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, well I was I thought that they were
Speaker 2: the same thing, because I'm kind of an idiot whenever
Speaker 2: it comes to historical landmarks mixed up.
Speaker 3: He turned the Nile river red of blood.
Speaker 4: That might be where you're getting confused, because around the
Speaker 4: same period it's Moses, same dude.
Speaker 2: So what Okay, perfect. So the Nile River. I just
Speaker 2: found this out too whenever I was doing that research.
Speaker 2: Remember how I told you that basically she was bloodthirsty
Speaker 2: and so he flooded the streets with like this. It
Speaker 2: was beer, but it was dyed red. They used some
Speaker 2: kind to die and that's what she drank and realized
Speaker 2: and she turned into the loving one or whatever. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: it turns out that you know, a lot of people
Speaker 2: back in those times, they would make like these mythological
Speaker 2: stories to be able to correlate which with what is
Speaker 2: really going on in you know, real physical reality. And
Speaker 2: so what people said or what I what I researched.
Speaker 2: What I found was is that that Nile River. The
Speaker 2: reason why it's red, or the reason why it occasionally
Speaker 2: gets red, it only happens during the summer. It's because
Speaker 2: it has uh no, it's not analgae. It's a oxygen
Speaker 2: iron oxide, that's what it is. It's iron oxide that
Speaker 2: rolls down from the mountains and that's what causes the
Speaker 2: whole uh seed to turn red like that. And isn't
Speaker 2: that crazy?
Speaker 3: Like how see yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I see, now I'm getting a mixed up.
Speaker 2: I thought it was the Nile. Maybe it's the Red Sea,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure, but anyway, it's one of them. The
Speaker 2: turns really red like that, and that was supposed to
Speaker 2: be like an allegory for you know, Hathor coming down
Speaker 2: and drinking all the red beer.
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, dude, the story of the uh
Speaker 3: what was her name.
Speaker 2: Before Hathor uh se sect.
Speaker 4: That story and again, this is another way you could
Speaker 4: find where these cultural crossovers happened, right like the Toath
Speaker 4: to the Hermes to the Mercury. Right, this story kind
Speaker 4: of lines up with the Core that turned into Persephone
Speaker 4: because when she was Core, she was the world destroyer
Speaker 4: and she tore up shit so bad that her mom
Speaker 4: pretty much had to put her into a coma, and
Speaker 4: she was reborn as the Bringer of Spring in the
Speaker 4: life goddess of Persephone.
Speaker 2: Oh well, you're talking about you're talking about Greek mythology now, right.
Speaker 4: Right, that's the Egyptian to the Greek crossover. That same
Speaker 4: story made in appearance in the Roman.
Speaker 2: So what what I was finding is that actually segment
Speaker 2: was also almost a very identical story. Whenever we're talking
Speaker 2: about the Greek pantheon of mythology as aphrodite.
Speaker 3: Oh, very interesting.
Speaker 2: So pretty cool. I just love learning about all this,
Speaker 2: like all these old myths and stuff. It's like, dude,
Speaker 2: this because it does tie into some of the real
Speaker 2: shit that happened here on earth. On Earth, you know.
Speaker 2: It's kind of like people that are that are real
Speaker 2: into astrology, right, Like there's all these different you know,
Speaker 2: astrological stories that are happening in the sky, and you
Speaker 2: got the the bull plowing the weed and all that
Speaker 2: fun jazz. But it's really just like stories to help
Speaker 2: remember you.
Speaker 1: Know, uh, you of ancient knowledge. Well they're entertaining stories.
Speaker 2: Right, but I mean there's that, but it's also like
Speaker 2: a remembering of all, right, well now is harvest season
Speaker 2: because the bull is doing this or whatever. Right, It's
Speaker 2: all pretty cool. I love learning about all that shit. Sorry,
Speaker 2: I didn't mean to take you off of the path here.
Speaker 2: I just thought that it was interesting. Maybe it played in.
Speaker 1: There a little bit, Oh yeah, definitely. And you were
Speaker 1: asking about like the one of you guys was asking
Speaker 1: about the the brain case volume. You know, does the
Speaker 1: elongation of the skulls you'll make them smarter? You know,
Speaker 1: that's some of the things that you find with these
Speaker 1: because you know, all humans have that satasutra, even all
Speaker 1: the ones that they find that are from headbinding have that.
Speaker 1: And they're finding skulls like this one that doesn't have it.
Speaker 1: And then another anomaly is that a small percentage of
Speaker 1: them that match the description of it being genetic. The
Speaker 1: brain case volume is increased by like I think, like
Speaker 1: twenty percent. So all the ones that they have from heady,
Speaker 1: it doesn't increase the brain case volume. It's still the
Speaker 1: same size. You're just squishing it and making it a
Speaker 1: different size. But these anomalies that they find, the brain
Speaker 1: case volume is up to like twenty percent larger. So
Speaker 1: you have this weird shape, you have the saddresuits or missing,
Speaker 1: you have the brain case volume even bigger. But then
Speaker 1: like you have the framing magnum like I mentioned, that
Speaker 1: doesn't change with the people that binds their head. And
Speaker 1: then the eye sockets if you look at this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're larger, they are.
Speaker 1: They're thirty percent larger. So one of the doctors that
Speaker 1: went with La down there to study these skulls and
Speaker 1: they measured them and everything. An optometrist went with them also,
Speaker 1: and the eye orbits worth thirty percent larger. The pupullary
Speaker 1: distance was reduced by like eight to ten percent, and
Speaker 1: so the eye eyes would be bigger, the pupils would
Speaker 1: be bigger, and where this is closer.
Speaker 3: That means they were more predatory.
Speaker 1: It increases depth perception, and it could give them vision
Speaker 1: like awl. This optometrist theorized that he believed these people
Speaker 1: had night vision, and it goes along with the legends. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these Nephelum giants being cave dwellers, and even when you
Speaker 1: go into the Greek translation of their name got gantes,
Speaker 1: it means they're earth born, they're from the earth.
Speaker 3: Bro the cave dweller one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Because of the larger eyes, they not I mean night
Speaker 4: vision like we're thinking when the sun goes down they
Speaker 4: could see. No, no, no, they only could see in
Speaker 4: the dark. Then chronicles are rittic type shit. But like, okay,
Speaker 4: hold on, I didn't notice that about the eyes until
Speaker 4: you put it straight on, because as you're looking at
Speaker 4: the whole skull, it's like the larger size.
Speaker 1: Offset dome takes all the attention.
Speaker 4: They really doesn't right right right, But when you put
Speaker 4: it straight on like that, I started to see those things.
Speaker 3: Bro the eye sockets are bigger, they are closer together.
Speaker 3: That is insane.
Speaker 2: My god, that would be so creepy to see in
Speaker 2: real life.
Speaker 5: Dude, we are looking at a hybrid race and their
Speaker 5: predatory that the eyes forward like that, you know, the
Speaker 5: only predator creatures have that, right, Any type of herbivore creature,
Speaker 5: any type of prey creature, their eyes go out towards
Speaker 5: the sides of their skull.
Speaker 4: Look at deer, look at different types of fish, right,
Speaker 4: because they have to be always looking around to see
Speaker 4: if they're safe. Predatory animals humans included, eyes go straightforward
Speaker 4: because we are trying to attain our hunt. These creatures
Speaker 4: were even higher up on that food chain than we were,
Speaker 4: if we are to believe this little bit of information here.
Speaker 3: That's wild.
Speaker 2: Look at Jacob knowing some shit about eyes and predatory.
Speaker 2: You blew my mind with that one. I never heard
Speaker 2: of that either.
Speaker 3: I know things about stuff sometimes.
Speaker 1: That's another genetic distinction. Is uh, These little holes like
Speaker 1: if you look at a skull like a normal skull,
Speaker 1: you have like little pair holes like in certain locations
Speaker 1: like here and down here on each side.
Speaker 3: Where the sinus go in.
Speaker 1: Ye, yes, they're for nerves, sized cavities, and for veins
Speaker 1: for the circulation of blood. Is what these are four
Speaker 1: And it's like the Sadristutra line. It's genetic markers for humanoids.
Speaker 1: All of them have them, right. But these very same
Speaker 1: skulls that that that they believe are genetic have a
Speaker 1: whole different set of holes.
Speaker 4: I thought you were about to say none whatsoever. I'm like,
Speaker 4: you tell me they didn't bleed.
Speaker 1: No, they had a whole different set and the holes
Speaker 1: that they had were larger. And it says uh that
Speaker 1: the human skull normally has three pairs of small holes
Speaker 1: in the front called one is the the foremen, and
Speaker 1: it says it's just below the eye sockets into the
Speaker 1: outside near the cheekbone. And then the third one is
Speaker 1: the mental foreman, and it's in the lower jaw to
Speaker 1: the outsides. But it says almost all elongated skulls of
Speaker 1: perracus have a fourth pairer called the parential foreman, and
Speaker 1: this is very uncommon in most human skulls. This is
Speaker 1: a set that is found bilatterally near the sagital margin
Speaker 1: posterity and when present, transmits an emissary view to the
Speaker 1: superior sagutus sinus, a large vein found in the human head.
Speaker 1: This view travels along the top portion of the head,
Speaker 1: beginning at the top of the skull, and moves back
Speaker 1: to the back part of the skull and then splits
Speaker 1: away into two, carrying blood back to the heart. It
Speaker 1: says this extra feature is to assist blood flow do
Speaker 1: to the abnormal shape of the head, meaning that it
Speaker 1: was programmed in they were born with to compensate for
Speaker 1: their extra long heads.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, Oh that's not what Google's saying. I
Speaker 2: like it.
Speaker 4: Hold on, hold on, hold on, So just off the
Speaker 4: information before we go into what Google said. We're talking
Speaker 4: about completely different circular systems, cardio vascular systems, I should say,
Speaker 4: than the human body.
Speaker 3: Like similar, yes, but distinctly different.
Speaker 4: Some of the humans do not have No matter if
Speaker 4: it was for binding or whatever, you're not going to
Speaker 4: form new blood vessels through your skull.
Speaker 2: It's a different happening. It's a different breed for sure.
Speaker 4: A legitimate different breed. I would postulate a different species.
Speaker 2: So you know, I know that this A lot of
Speaker 2: this kind of dates back to you know, you said,
Speaker 2: like two thousand years like kind of biblical times there.
Speaker 2: You know what I find very strange is that almost
Speaker 2: almost all the stories, if not all of the stories
Speaker 2: talking about the Bible, it never talks about like beings
Speaker 2: from other planets do they like is it's always like
Speaker 2: fallen angels or demons. It's never talking about Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: there was this asshole from Saturn, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 4: It only talked about you, if we're going to be
Speaker 4: technical one area of the planet for that amount of time,
Speaker 4: Like it didn't talk about what was going on in
Speaker 4: what we now call France, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: It wasn't talking about what's going on in China. These
Speaker 4: people allegedly didn't even know the North and South America existed, allegedly,
Speaker 4: so like it makes sense that they would only talk
Speaker 4: about what was going on in that area.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but the old mean and yeah, it's getting
Speaker 1: involved in the verbage too. You can't get hung up
Speaker 1: on the verbage. And you got to remember, this is
Speaker 1: an ancient text written by ancient people that is constricted
Speaker 1: to what these ancient people knew and their worldview. So
Speaker 1: it's like I tell people all the time, it's like gods,
Speaker 1: you know, angels, demons, all these different things. They are
Speaker 1: not of this world, right, So by our definitions today
Speaker 1: textbook wise, all those things could be filed under the
Speaker 1: category of extraterrestrial because they're not of this world. So
Speaker 1: just you know, they didn't have that concept and framework
Speaker 1: back then. So them they were just saying they were
Speaker 1: from heaven, and heaven was a blanket turn for the place,
Speaker 1: the big place above that we don't know crap about
Speaker 1: pretty much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, could very well be.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you were the dude writing it down
Speaker 4: on a scroll three thousand years ago and you just
Speaker 4: saw a fighter jet fly through the air, what would
Speaker 4: you write because you now we today would look at
Speaker 4: this etching and be like, that's in a patchy attack
Speaker 4: helicopter pop up, but like the person riding it a
Speaker 4: giant metal dragon very loud.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well overhead, which convance was chariots. So I've seen
Speaker 1: a chariot of fire go across the sky.
Speaker 4: But the only reason they would say chariot is if
Speaker 4: they saw occupants within it, right otherwise or who knows,
Speaker 4: maybe they would have known immediately that noise couldn't have
Speaker 4: been from a creature. That had to be a craft
Speaker 4: of some type, and they only knew about chariots or
Speaker 4: boats like I who.
Speaker 2: Knows, Well, yeah, somebody wasn't walking or running, right, and
Speaker 2: they're in some kind of vehicle. So that's probably the
Speaker 2: only vehicle that they were really accustomed to outside of boats.
Speaker 2: And you're not going to be sailing a boat in
Speaker 2: the sky, so I guess you would call it a chariot.
Speaker 4: That concept to them a skyboat was preposterous to them,
Speaker 4: you know what.
Speaker 1: I mean Egyptians. I mean, you know, they're they're what
Speaker 1: do you call it, their their soul journey. You know,
Speaker 1: they rode the boat, you know, across the sky.
Speaker 2: That's true, that's right.
Speaker 3: That was like the limit of their imagination.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean yeah, but and also think about like
Speaker 2: some of the Egyptian cave drawings. They look like fucking
Speaker 2: abatchy helicopters and shit like that in there, right M
Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of that. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't know when those were, you know, carved or whatever,
Speaker 2: but I think it's pretty safe to say it was
Speaker 2: carved in there before we had helicopters.
Speaker 4: Is it possible that that was from some other species
Speaker 4: from another planet that had come to Earth and that
Speaker 4: they were depicting what they saw. Possibly could that be
Speaker 4: the creation of an interdimensional being or inter timeline being
Speaker 4: very possible? Could that have also been the the remnants
Speaker 4: of a demonic or nephilimic technological thing that they were
Speaker 4: trying to teach mankind to pull them away from the
Speaker 4: glory of God and put them on the path of Ooh,
Speaker 4: look at the new shiny technology.
Speaker 3: We don't need God. Look also equally possible.
Speaker 2: Who knows, you know, there's just so much speculation for
Speaker 2: all of this, and you know, it's hard to really
Speaker 2: get inside the minds of these people. All we can
Speaker 2: really do is just look at, you know, whatever they
Speaker 2: were able to document throughout time and try to interpret
Speaker 2: it through their own words into our words kind of things.
Speaker 4: So, but then we see these skulls and fuck whatever
Speaker 4: the text is saying, these skulls ain't human.
Speaker 1: Dot one thing too is like the ones down in
Speaker 1: Perracas especially actually across the world. But they talked about,
Speaker 1: you know, this was the last of the Vera Kocha.
Speaker 1: But all these elongated skulls that they found that were
Speaker 1: the anomalies, you know, that they thought was genetic and
Speaker 1: they couldn't explain and had so many of these differences.
Speaker 1: Like I'm explaining to you today, ninety percent of them
Speaker 1: had red hair.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: I was just about to ask if we knew about
Speaker 4: you said the white skin earlier, but do we know
Speaker 4: what color hair?
Speaker 3: I was hoping that was coming up.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because a lot of them, they like Mummy wrapped
Speaker 1: their heads and their faces, and where this is arid desert,
Speaker 1: it's perfect for preserving these bodies. And La in his book,
Speaker 1: he's got pictures like they actually got to unwrap one.
Speaker 1: It was like an infant skull and I think they
Speaker 1: said it was like six or seven years old. It
Speaker 1: was tiny, but it was wrapped in this burial cloth.
Speaker 1: But it was starting to decay and smell and it
Speaker 1: was stinking up the museum. So the curator allowed his
Speaker 1: team to chemically treat this thing and soak it and
Speaker 1: pull these wraps off. And when they did, this head
Speaker 1: that they were working on had a head full of
Speaker 1: red hair. Oh and I think that's it over on
Speaker 1: the right right there, Yeah, all that red hair on top.
Speaker 4: So this goes more into the realm of the red
Speaker 4: headed giants, which, yes, we are to believe all of
Speaker 4: the stories that are floating and some of those that
Speaker 4: are still being said today. We could talk about the
Speaker 4: Afghanistan the red headed giant that was killed in the
Speaker 4: mountains and what was it five three something early in
Speaker 4: the war.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh shit, look.
Speaker 3: Same area.
Speaker 2: Alien like skulls are unearthed in a thousand year old cemetery.
Speaker 2: Looks pretty familiar, right it does.
Speaker 3: Indeed, what is that?
Speaker 1: Looks like some of the CGI puts skin on some
Speaker 1: of these And.
Speaker 3: Look at that. That's NBC. Right, Oh, look at that
Speaker 3: image you have you in the book. Damn this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say I would be pretty
Speaker 2: damn intimidated if I saw old long fuehead over there.
Speaker 4: Dude, Bro, could you imagine being an archaeologist? All Right,
Speaker 4: you got twenty fucking years in the field, You've written
Speaker 4: thesis papers, you've taught at colleges, like you are a
Speaker 4: dude who knows how to dig a site, okay, And
Speaker 4: you hear about some crazy thing going down in Peruse,
Speaker 4: and you know you got a team available, and you,
Speaker 4: for whatever reason y'all get the contracts and you go
Speaker 4: down there and you on earth that fucking head.
Speaker 3: Like, how are you, as.
Speaker 4: A respected archaeologist supposed to be like, uh, I found
Speaker 4: this non human dog dude.
Speaker 2: This site that they found in Mexico, all these different burials,
Speaker 2: there was twenty five burials, and it says seventeen of
Speaker 2: them were children between the months or between the ages
Speaker 2: of five months and sixteen years.
Speaker 1: So I wonder if the heady line they can't they
Speaker 1: can they can't start the head binding until six years
Speaker 1: of age. They have to or wait a minute, what no,
Speaker 1: six or eight months. There's a certain timeframe that they
Speaker 1: have to wait. They can't do it as soon as
Speaker 1: they're born. So it's like the ones they're finding that
Speaker 1: are infants and really young, it's even if they weren't
Speaker 1: in the womb, it was scientifically impossible for them to
Speaker 1: produce that effect.
Speaker 2: And how about this rate here of the twenty five
Speaker 2: skulls that they found, are the twenty five skeletons that
Speaker 2: they found of this burial site in Mexico, only one
Speaker 2: of them was a female.
Speaker 3: Now that's interesting.
Speaker 4: I wonder if there was more males with the elongated
Speaker 4: skulls than females, because maybe in their culture, maybe they're
Speaker 4: more of a patriarchy, you know, maybe men kind of
Speaker 4: ran shit more so they were seen as closer to
Speaker 4: the gods or some I mean, you never know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is crazy that this when was this article
Speaker 2: twenty twelve? Okay, so it was like twelve years ago
Speaker 2: they found this.
Speaker 3: That's still wild in Mexico.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: It says although cranial deformation and dental mutilation were common
Speaker 2: features among the pre Hispanic populations of Mesoamerica and Western Mexico,
Speaker 2: scientists had not previously seen either in Sonora or the
Speaker 2: American Southwest.
Speaker 4: So yeah, yo, when you said the Apache did that earlier,
Speaker 4: I didn't know that about now. I'm not like an
Speaker 4: all knower of American Native American tribes and their culture
Speaker 4: and all, but I was not under the impression that
Speaker 4: any United States Native American tribes were doing this skull elongation.
Speaker 3: That was new information to me.
Speaker 1: And did you guys know, I'm probably gonna blow your
Speaker 1: minds with this because I just recently found out about it.
Speaker 1: And I like to think I know my Bible and
Speaker 1: stuff pretty well, and I didn't know this, But there's
Speaker 1: commandments in the Bible against headbinding, and it shows you
Speaker 1: that people were doing it. Obviously why I make the rule,
Speaker 1: but it's kind of hidden in the original language, and
Speaker 1: it's been mistranslated.
Speaker 3: And okay, you don't have to break this one down
Speaker 3: for me a little bit more. Where is that one at?
Speaker 1: Go to Leviticus in chapter nineteen, verse twenty seven. I
Speaker 1: got here in my notes that says the Bible even
Speaker 1: gives commandments not to do this headbinding. The kjav says
Speaker 1: you shall not round the corners of your heads. Many
Speaker 1: other English translations says this refers to haircuts, shaving of
Speaker 1: the head and leaving a patch at the top or
Speaker 1: the back like Native Americans.
Speaker 3: That's how the monks did it.
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, that's the iconic friar whatever haircut for sure.
Speaker 1: But when you go to the Hebrew, this word for
Speaker 1: round in Strong's concordance, its numbered is fifty three sixty two,
Speaker 1: is nikov, meaning to surround or encircle. This word is
Speaker 1: also closely associated to nick pa, which is Strong Concordance
Speaker 1: fifty three sixty four, which is a rope that encircles it, says.
Speaker 1: The English word for corners here in Hebrew is pa,
Speaker 1: and that Strunk's Concordance sixty two to eighty five, which
Speaker 1: means a region, an extremity, a side, or a corner
Speaker 1: and side is the most common that it's translated, and
Speaker 1: it's sixty four times previously in the same chapter, but
Speaker 1: in verse nine it uses this word telling the farmers
Speaker 1: not to cut down the outside edges of their fields. Yeah,
Speaker 1: to leave it for the poor. So this is God
Speaker 1: telling his people not to encircle their heads with rope,
Speaker 1: thus rounding the edges of their head. And this is
Speaker 1: talking about headbinding. So it shows you that the people
Speaker 1: even there were binding their heads to emulate, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: these Nephelum giants who had elongated heads. Now like you
Speaker 1: had ana you remember the anachemin the long necked people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so like that didn't necessarily talk about
Speaker 4: binding with a board. Not in so many words, bind
Speaker 4: it means, but head binding by any other name. Here
Speaker 4: you're one hundred percent on it.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, I just found a picture in this book
Speaker 1: if I can find it again. Not all of it
Speaker 1: was bored. They write pictures of people with just rope. Really, yeah,
Speaker 1: let me find it again. I've just seen it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just want to read this while you're trying
Speaker 2: to find that. It says in the Bible the Anachem
Speaker 2: where a race of giants who lived in Canaan before
Speaker 2: the Israelids arrived. The Anachem where a warlike people with
Speaker 2: a name that may mean long necked or tall.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Now people have taken that and read the tall portion
Speaker 4: to mean that they were Nephelum giants, and.
Speaker 3: Yes, the but also they had long necks.
Speaker 4: Who knows now, I wonder if that word long is
Speaker 4: being used correctly or if it means like thicker, like
Speaker 4: bigger next, because if they're holding up a a bigger head,
Speaker 4: I would think they would have thicker, not longer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're talking about me.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're talking about rock lessener here. You know, with the here.
Speaker 1: As anthropologists that studied the Procue skulls, you know that
Speaker 1: frame and magnum where it mounted at. That's what they
Speaker 1: said before they even knew about I mean, these guys
Speaker 1: weren't scholars. They didn't know about the Anachem or any
Speaker 1: of that stuff. They just said, with this head, the
Speaker 1: way it's shaped and where it mounts, they would have
Speaker 1: to have an extra long neck to counterbalance the weight
Speaker 1: of this head.
Speaker 4: Now that's true too. You could look at where it
Speaker 4: goes into the skull. It goes like higher up for
Speaker 4: where like for way at the brainstem connects, that's like
Speaker 4: where their throat was. So with that, yeah, maybe right,
Speaker 4: adding an extra two or three even six inches to
Speaker 4: a neck to like in theory, that doesn't sound like
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 3: But if you looked at it, yeah, oh no shit.
Speaker 3: Look at that binding with.
Speaker 2: Rope literally squeezing for the listeners there there. It looks
Speaker 2: like just like some ropes that are on that are
Speaker 2: connecting from the forehead. It's almost the back below the
Speaker 2: nod of your head, and it's squeezing it in a yeah,
Speaker 2: like almost like a cone.
Speaker 3: Into a cone shape one hundred percent. Look at that.
Speaker 4: I mean the same way that I like tie a
Speaker 4: bandana around my head, but to do that with ropes
Speaker 4: and then every day have them tightened and re tightened
Speaker 4: and retightened throughout the day. And we're going to do
Speaker 4: that for about ten years or so to make sure
Speaker 4: it really sticks.
Speaker 3: And like, bro, what.
Speaker 2: It's really No, it's almost like ancient like like when
Speaker 2: you would get braces, but for your head, like because
Speaker 2: you know, whatever you go in for braces, you got
Speaker 2: to keep on getting them tightened and tightened and tightened,
Speaker 2: and very similar that way.
Speaker 1: That is interesting and the most craziest one they actually
Speaker 1: gave a name for and they called this uh and
Speaker 1: this was a skeleton. This wasn't just a head. This
Speaker 1: was a body with an elongated skull, and they named
Speaker 1: it wiki and says that this one was a very
Speaker 1: strange elongated infant less than twenty inches long, had elongated head,
Speaker 1: large eye sockets, and the front and nail the soft
Speaker 1: cap that we were talking about earlier was still open,
Speaker 1: but it had molars.
Speaker 2: Bro what a little baby boo.
Speaker 1: And I got tons of pictures I'm going to show you.
Speaker 1: And it says that this was definitely not a dwarf
Speaker 1: because the bones were thin and smile and it was
Speaker 1: found on this path of Viracocha.
Speaker 4: Okay, so I'm glad they mentioned because you could tell
Speaker 4: if somebody had dwarf isn't based off of bone density,
Speaker 4: right and very basic anatomical look alike. So I mean,
Speaker 4: I get it. This is a This baby was not born.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, look at this ship.
Speaker 4: And the skull hadn't completely closed up, right, So I mean,
Speaker 4: and you said this it was a newborn or it
Speaker 4: actually hadn't been born. It was newborn a newborn that
Speaker 4: died for whatever reason complications. Especially back in that day
Speaker 4: and age like that was very common to have a
Speaker 4: baby die in child birth.
Speaker 2: A newborn with a newborn with molars though, that ain't bowlers.
Speaker 3: And with that, look at those eye sockets, dude.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, dude, these are nefhelin fucking babies.
Speaker 4: Look and you hear stories of babies being born with
Speaker 4: teeth like maybe one or two popping out and that's
Speaker 4: like crazy.
Speaker 3: That's yeah.
Speaker 1: Look at the head versus the body frame. The head
Speaker 1: is almost as big as the torso. Bro.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's that's fucking insane.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is crazy.
Speaker 4: And like, okay, people, I know that babies have a
Speaker 4: slightly larger head at birth, not like that whole thing,
Speaker 4: not like this, not even and not even because of
Speaker 4: the shape. We're fucking the width of the jaw of
Speaker 4: the skull as it relates to the shoulders and rib cage.
Speaker 3: That's there's no fucking way.
Speaker 2: That is so creepy. Jacob. Imagine you wake up, you go,
Speaker 2: you know, you had to take a league and middle
Speaker 2: of the night, you gotta go take a league. Maybe
Speaker 2: go get a little glass of water. You see, that
Speaker 2: little fucker running down in your hallways. What are you doing?
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm shooting it like. I'm just gonna be straight up,
Speaker 4: you know. I stay with it on me, even.
Speaker 1: To the cemetery. Now, I want to play.
Speaker 3: Nah, we fuck got silver bullets. We're gonna fire it
Speaker 3: all at it.
Speaker 2: What was that kid's name? It was a Sebastian, wasn't.
Speaker 1: It Gauge Gauge Gage.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yo, but that is why.
Speaker 4: And that's a newborn and that doesn't have the crack
Speaker 4: down the skull like a human would have.
Speaker 3: Yep, whoa, and it has those extra holes. Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That is, sir, freaking nutty. Well, I wanted to read this.
Speaker 2: This is uh. It says as far as the an Achem,
Speaker 2: it says that whenever it's talking about its descendants and whatnot,
Speaker 2: but it says the Anachem were the descendants of a knock,
Speaker 2: the son of Arba, and were thought by the Hebrews
Speaker 2: to be descended from the Nephelin.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, remember I was when I come on your
Speaker 1: guys a show and I talked about Esau interbreeding with
Speaker 1: the whole writes that he bred his nephew was a
Speaker 1: Malik who his name burnt. The whole tribe called the Amalekites,
Speaker 1: which in Hebrew means the blood liquors.
Speaker 4: And they had to be slaughtered the Amalekites. Wasn't there
Speaker 4: King Agag Yes, that's the one that the prophet had.
Speaker 1: To ha had his throat.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the prophet himself, because that's how that's how
Speaker 4: religious men get down in the old days.
Speaker 3: That is falling the.
Speaker 2: Word so freaky, dude, that little that little bastard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wiki, yeah, yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 2: The baby, oh yeah, I was just talking about the
Speaker 2: baby that is that's gonna haunt my fucking dreams, bro.
Speaker 2: Like that is a scary picture right there.
Speaker 4: No imagine a whole race of them, dude, No, imagine
Speaker 4: a whole army of fact, the whole tribe.
Speaker 1: And this one is pretty wild to you, guys. You'll
Speaker 1: appreciate this one. And I got pictures to this and
Speaker 1: guys that's listening and not seeing this. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: La Marzouli's book. And this book gets about sixty bucks,
Speaker 1: but it's like five hundred pages full color pictures of
Speaker 1: all these explorations and just on the trail of the Efeline.
Speaker 3: The quality of those pictures you know, print ain't cheap.
Speaker 4: Okay, just for the quality of the pictures inside that book,
Speaker 4: I could tell you sixty bucks is I.
Speaker 3: Mean, they ain't like you boys getting rich off it.
Speaker 2: Well, especially that type of paper too, that's like a
Speaker 2: glossy paper that's more expensive of itself.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you boy, he put his
Speaker 4: time and effort into this book. I'm giving the props
Speaker 4: for sure.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, dude. But in there, man, it says, uh
Speaker 1: that they found a journal written in eighteen forty eighteen
Speaker 1: forty two called the Peruvian Antiquities, and it talks about
Speaker 1: these elongated skulls even back then, that they were finding
Speaker 1: them and researching them and asking these questions, you know,
Speaker 1: what were these things? And in this journal they were theorizing,
Speaker 1: you know, back and forth what they thought it was.
Speaker 1: But it says that in this journal that even back
Speaker 1: then that they proposed that this was a different race
Speaker 1: of people, that the and they even said that the
Speaker 1: Peruvian people were emulating this race and boarding their heads
Speaker 1: and their children's heads to look like them. But an
Speaker 1: apostolistic bull, you know, a paper bull from the Catholic
Speaker 1: Church was passed in the sixteenth century prohibiting the binding
Speaker 1: of heads. And in this journal they mentioned finding an
Speaker 1: elongated skull that was a child, But then in the
Speaker 1: same tune found a mummy of a woman with an
Speaker 1: elongated feet is still in the womb.
Speaker 4: WHOA now, real quick, a papal bull just in case
Speaker 4: anybody didn't know, call that a Catholic law that that's
Speaker 4: essentially the short and dirty of It's when the pope
Speaker 4: makes a decree and this is not to be taken
Speaker 4: away when the new pope comes in. This is supposed
Speaker 4: to be a from now on, etch this bitch and
Speaker 4: stone kind of thing. It's not to be taken lightly.
Speaker 4: So for the Pope to have to come out in
Speaker 4: the fifteen hundreds and say, hey, y'all, don't bind anybody's skulls.
Speaker 3: Bro, who the fuck was binding skulls?
Speaker 4: For the pope to make that little proclamation, except they
Speaker 4: were still doing it.
Speaker 3: Come to find out.
Speaker 2: You said that was in the fifteen hundreds.
Speaker 1: Justin it was a sixteenth century papal bull.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, wow, So five hundred years
Speaker 2: ago people were doing this shit.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And then they were talking about in the eighteen forties,
Speaker 4: let this one Marinate bro. Right before the American Civil War,
Speaker 4: they had exploration teams in Peru asking why the fuck
Speaker 4: they're strapping boards to their babies heads.
Speaker 3: That's fucking wild.
Speaker 2: That is so random to find something like that. And
Speaker 2: like the Civil War.
Speaker 4: We had locomotives and shit, dude, right right, well, I
Speaker 4: found this right here, And some people were speculating as
Speaker 4: to why they would have done that, if not the
Speaker 4: ones that are born that way, but the ones that
Speaker 4: were trying to emulate those elongated skull people.
Speaker 2: There are some theories out there. Some say that it
Speaker 2: is to prevent injury from the evil winds, which is
Speaker 2: pretty interesting. And how where was that I had? I
Speaker 2: had it pulled up here, But it was basically like
Speaker 2: the evil wins, like the evil spirits. So to say, right,
Speaker 2: I guess like because your your head was elongated, that
Speaker 2: it made it more aerodynamtymic. Yeah, isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: So it would it would prevent from the evil winds.
Speaker 2: It would protect young people's souls, which is why you
Speaker 2: know your your parents would be prone to elongating your
Speaker 2: skull because the theory was that it would protect your
Speaker 2: young's soul.
Speaker 4: Protect you from the English spirits and shit, just like
Speaker 4: certain people believe baptizing their baby make sure that they
Speaker 4: go to heaven and like it has nothing to do
Speaker 4: with them whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 1: Here's that drawing that was in that journal. It said
Speaker 1: that they found this, this mummy of this pregnant woman
Speaker 1: with this elongated skull fetus steal in the womb in
Speaker 1: a cave two leagues from tomorrow. And it says in
Speaker 1: that book, it says, and which at this moment is
Speaker 1: in our core. But to this day, nobody's been able
Speaker 1: to find this thing. But in this journal they said
Speaker 1: that they were sending some of these skulls and skeletons
Speaker 1: to Britain, but they just disappeared from the pages of history.
Speaker 3: When was this found? The pregnant woman.
Speaker 1: That there's the drawing that was in the journal.
Speaker 4: That's why I'm asking, because, like, Okay, did they find
Speaker 4: this through like some sort of scan or did they
Speaker 4: perform a sea section or like an autopsy sea section
Speaker 4: to find this?
Speaker 3: Do we know how they got it?
Speaker 1: It doesn't say, but I would assume.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's just the bones. You'd be able to
Speaker 2: see the bones of the baby in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: It was like in the last couple of decades, they
Speaker 4: could have done like a scan and seen that.
Speaker 1: I don't know this journal was from. It was old
Speaker 1: when we look.
Speaker 4: Okay, so they did a fourteen Oh no, they pulled
Speaker 4: the baby out by hand.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, that's what it sounds like. And as far
Speaker 2: as the league, I didn't know what that meant. A
Speaker 2: league is three statute miles according to this. Yeah, and
Speaker 2: that's downwards, so six miles. Yeah, all right, yeah, it's
Speaker 2: pretty damn close. Then that is insane.
Speaker 4: And keep this in mind too. The mom didn't have
Speaker 4: an elongated skull. It wasn't like it was a genetic.
Speaker 3: Trait for mama.
Speaker 2: No, it did have an elongated skull, right. That picture
Speaker 2: you just show was an elongated skull of the mom.
Speaker 3: The baby had an.
Speaker 1: That was a drawing of the fetus.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, I thought that was the mom.
Speaker 1: I didn't think of that.
Speaker 3: No, the mama, DA can have it. Otherwise they would
Speaker 3: have mentioned it.
Speaker 4: If the mom, they would have said, we found an
Speaker 4: elongated skull, woman pregnant with an elongated skull baby.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's not what was said.
Speaker 4: This was a normal woman that was mummified, So like,
Speaker 4: clearly there was some sort of special care given to
Speaker 4: this woman, whoever she was. But she didn't have the
Speaker 4: elongated skull.
Speaker 3: Her baby did.
Speaker 4: And this is before childbursts, so it wasn't like this
Speaker 4: baby was struggling to get out the canalary thing.
Speaker 3: Damn she was.
Speaker 1: It just says a pregnant woman. It doesn't say that
Speaker 1: she had an elongated to go out. Didn't catch that, damn.
Speaker 3: So the daddy had to be where that came from.
Speaker 4: Does this lead more credence to a nephilim breeding with
Speaker 4: the human female?
Speaker 3: I kind of think it does.
Speaker 2: That might be the that might be the best physical
Speaker 2: proof that there is that, you know, the the Inanaki
Speaker 2: came down and bred with human people, not the Inaki, dude.
Speaker 1: I mean that once again, it's that's all verbage.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: The ancient astronaut theorist can use that very same idea
Speaker 1: and be like, see, we told you alien down and
Speaker 1: manipulated the gene pool.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but in Anaki, I mean, that's where the
Speaker 2: Nephilim come from. Right, Nephilim is just a mix of
Speaker 2: a man in in Anaki, I thought, right.
Speaker 3: No, Nephilim is the mix of a man and a
Speaker 3: fallen angel.
Speaker 1: Okay, so fallen angels context, he's saying the Mesopotamians that,
Speaker 1: to you know, the sages, the Alcolu were heavenly being,
Speaker 1: so therefore it's kind of like an equivalent to a
Speaker 1: fallen angel.
Speaker 4: Well, sure, the fallen angels came down and the humans
Speaker 4: thought they were gods and they just start fucking them all. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, they had different names to them.
Speaker 2: Sure, that's what I'm saying, fallen angels and anaky. It's
Speaker 2: usually said within the same pretext or context. Gotcha, my bet,
Speaker 2: my bet, dude, this stuff is insane. And knowing that
Speaker 2: they were like not even that long ago, finding these
Speaker 2: bones now, I don't know. I mean, it was were
Speaker 2: those bones you said that they were mummified, they were wrapped,
Speaker 2: or they were just found you know, dug up.
Speaker 1: I just said it was mummified found in a cave.
Speaker 4: But I mean there was that one in Mexico that
Speaker 4: they had found that didn't have any kind of mummification.
Speaker 4: So I guess kind of depends on where you find
Speaker 4: it and what their culture did or the age or
Speaker 4: day and age of which that body was buried.
Speaker 3: I mean, who knows.
Speaker 4: I don't know when mammafic I'm being honest, I don't
Speaker 4: know when Mamma the Wesson was like in vogue in
Speaker 4: Central America or when it fell out of fashion.
Speaker 3: I honestly have no idea.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the higher classes, like down in Peru,
Speaker 1: you know, the people that had either good status or
Speaker 1: just money that they would have these fancy burial cloths
Speaker 1: and they would wrap them in a kind of like
Speaker 1: a mummy and stuff. So some of the the mass
Speaker 1: graveyards that they found down there in Peru, these I
Speaker 1: think they call them Sijarro's, but they're like basically grave robbers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they just got to the desert and just start digging,
Speaker 1: and that's how they found a lot of these. But
Speaker 1: a lot of these skulls that were elongated, either they
Speaker 1: weren't wrapped to begin with, or they're so old that
Speaker 1: the raps just deteriorated. But then they find these ornate
Speaker 1: burials where they got these really fine multicolored burial cloths
Speaker 1: wrapped around them, like the one I told you about
Speaker 1: the baby wrapping. I actually show you a picture of
Speaker 1: that one that Taylor actually had to unwrap that I
Speaker 1: was talking about earlier, because it was starting to smell.
Speaker 1: It had a really expensive ornate textile wrapping around its head,
Speaker 1: and it was starting to decay and smell bad. And
Speaker 1: that's why the curator asked if Joe would remove it.
Speaker 4: That's the other thing too, for this to start smelling bad,
Speaker 4: I mean, this couldn't have.
Speaker 3: Been an old corpse sample, if you will. This had
Speaker 3: to have been relatively recently deceased.
Speaker 1: The arid desert. Well, the arid desert man, it preserves.
Speaker 4: You're saying when they brought the body into a human environment,
Speaker 4: it started to I see what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, So, as far as mummification goes, whenever it started
Speaker 2: and whenever it stopped. It says Egyptians stopped making mummies
Speaker 2: between the fourth and seventh century a D.
Speaker 4: So oh yeah, no, I'm talking about in Central America,
Speaker 4: not in Egypt. Well, I'm where these bodies are being found. Yeah, Egypt,
Speaker 4: they stopped doing that. It said seven hundred a D.
Speaker 3: Well, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: That's like as far as it goes. But it says
Speaker 2: when many Egyptians became Christians. But it's estimated that over
Speaker 2: a three thousand year period, more than seventy million mummies
Speaker 2: were made in Egypt. Seventy million mummies, Holy shit. And
Speaker 2: it says while the ancient Egyptians may be the best
Speaker 2: known mummy makers, they were not the first. And then
Speaker 2: it talks about, wait, what are we looking at right here?
Speaker 1: This is the infant with the head binding. But look
Speaker 1: at the textile. It's got gold leaf or gold dread
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, what is that?
Speaker 3: That's the rap?
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the rap of that infant that was at.
Speaker 3: One point cloth.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that is insane.
Speaker 3: And again the pictures are very well put together.
Speaker 4: It's clearly why the book is sixty dollars, to be
Speaker 4: honest with you, But.
Speaker 2: Damn shocked, it's not more to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: because that's a fucking sweet ass book. But I wanted to.
Speaker 1: Look how decayed looking that thing is. Yeah, red hair
Speaker 1: they found underneath. Wow.
Speaker 4: And again like they that was perfectly preserved in the
Speaker 4: desert and was dried out jerky style.
Speaker 3: Basically they brought it into an exhibit.
Speaker 4: In pretty much any environment with any little bit of
Speaker 4: humidity over time is going to rehydrate that flesh, which
Speaker 4: will in turn kickstart more of the decomposition.
Speaker 3: So yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 2: So does this mean, like it has long been speculated before,
Speaker 2: for all the redheads out there, are all the redheads
Speaker 2: descendants of Satan? Is that what we're talking about here, dude?
Speaker 2: Because it's always been said as like a joke, but
Speaker 2: it always seems like these motherfuckers always got red hair, dude,
Speaker 2: and it's always you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I mean, didn't they just I forget when they did
Speaker 4: the study and showed that redheads have the closest genetic
Speaker 4: a similation to the Neanderthals or whoever our prethinking man's
Speaker 4: you know whatever that was. Apparently they're the closest genetic relative.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but like, eh, I mean.
Speaker 2: Dude, every redhead I've ever met, they've always been pretty
Speaker 2: damn fiery, you know what I'm saying, Like they always
Speaker 2: got a little extra something to them.
Speaker 1: I'm just like scanned like the Vera Koca legends and stuff.
Speaker 3: All right, never met a boring redhead, I'll put it
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 2: No, they don't exist.
Speaker 3: They never met a Kuia one either.
Speaker 2: Gonna be honest, right right, calling out to all the
Speaker 2: red headed cult members out there, do you feel like
Speaker 2: the blood of Satan runs through your veins? Hit us
Speaker 2: up on Actually, you can actually just leave us a
Speaker 2: review on Apple Podcasts. That'd be the best way. Or
Speaker 2: you can hit us up on Patreon or Instagram. We
Speaker 2: are on all the things and the stuff. But I
Speaker 2: want to know, like, do you feel like your blood
Speaker 2: has been tainted by the dark one.
Speaker 4: I'm just like your audience, man, I've never met a
Speaker 4: or boring Italian either.
Speaker 3: No, I don't think they make them.
Speaker 2: Dude, you want to hear a fun fact. So it
Speaker 2: says today mummification is rare, but some places still preserve
Speaker 2: dead bodies, for example, the mummified body of Alan Billis,
Speaker 2: who died in twenty eleven at the Gordon Museum. It
Speaker 2: says Vladimir Lenin's body was also mummified using modern techniques
Speaker 2: after his death in nineteen twenty four. So people still
Speaker 2: less than one hundred years ago. I mean that one
Speaker 2: was in twenty eleven mummifying their shit. That might be
Speaker 2: the way to go. Fuck the Viking send off, dude,
Speaker 2: Mamma fi me fuck.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Man. When I was reading, like as
Speaker 1: a kid, like I was always fascinated with history. But
Speaker 1: when I looked into the momification stuff, even like in
Speaker 1: my you know, middle school textbooks, that just freaked me out.
Speaker 1: And they showed these depictions of these guys with these
Speaker 1: long meat hooks that they'd shove up your freaking nose, bro,
Speaker 1: and hook your brain and pull it out like a
Speaker 1: big string of spaget and put it in a jar.
Speaker 1: I know I'm dead, but just the idea of having
Speaker 1: my brains pulled it out of my nostrils, I'm not
Speaker 1: too keen.
Speaker 3: On, bro.
Speaker 4: There's no way they could have known they got it all.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna say what everyone's thinking here, Okay, there's
Speaker 4: no fucking way these dudes pulled out the entire brain.
Speaker 3: Was like, yep, nothing else in there. We got it all.
Speaker 2: They're hit no way shake it. So well. The idea
Speaker 2: of the idea behind why you would mummify, though it
Speaker 2: says uh uh, to preserve a deceased person's body so
Speaker 2: that their soul could recognize and inhabit it, habit, inhabit
Speaker 2: it in the afterlife, so you could basically preserve like
Speaker 2: your form in the afterlife if your body was mummified.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what the Egyptians believe basically, they they believed
Speaker 4: that they didn't put these organs, specific organs in these jars,
Speaker 4: and if they didn't do these things, then like you
Speaker 4: wouldn't even be a whole thing.
Speaker 1: Like your whole self reanimate.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: They believe that in some way, shape or form, your
Speaker 4: body went with you to the afterlife. And there's a
Speaker 4: lot of religions that still preach that in one way,
Speaker 4: shape or form. Hell, I know Christians that believe that.
Speaker 4: I mean that, you know, people believe different things as
Speaker 4: far as what the afterlife looks like. But I mean,
Speaker 4: the mumification was for that purpose.
Speaker 2: What did they think if you didn't mammify it, were
Speaker 2: you just going to be like an energy form?
Speaker 1: Like you had a ka and a ba. The Egyptians
Speaker 1: they believed that your your spirit body was splintered and
Speaker 1: you had a ka and a ba and your CA
Speaker 1: was basically like your soul. But what we I guess
Speaker 1: can conceiptulize as a soul. But the Ba was weird.
Speaker 1: It was a part bird, part human head type entity.
Speaker 1: And that was what took the journey that flew through
Speaker 1: the the soul journey and tried to go through these
Speaker 1: these seven gates and the judgment and all that stuff,
Speaker 1: and then the Ba if it went through everything, well,
Speaker 1: would go back to the body where the Ba was,
Speaker 1: and the Ba and the Ka would reunite and reanimate
Speaker 1: the body.
Speaker 4: Supposedly this is where you also get kabba law.
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, very well, could.
Speaker 4: That would be where the that's the so if anybody
Speaker 4: who doesn't know, that would be the quote unquote oldest
Speaker 4: form of black magic to the Western world. It is
Speaker 4: the Hebrew and the Egyptian pagan pantheon god of witchcraft,
Speaker 4: so to speak, blended into one. It's basically Jewish esotericism,
Speaker 4: Jewish dark occultism in a nutshell. And to say that
Speaker 4: that was the combination, especially when we're talking about the
Speaker 4: human's spirit journey kaba law, this makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking it up. It says the word kabbala
Speaker 2: comes from the Hebrew root of cough be it lamed,
Speaker 2: which means to receive or to accept. The word is
Speaker 2: usually translated as tradition. Hm, hey, you never know that
Speaker 2: is just google a eye. By the way, So I
Speaker 2: don't google a eye. You ain't been around long enough
Speaker 2: to know this kind of shit, all right.
Speaker 3: I pulled. But it makes sense.
Speaker 1: It does stands from Egypt, you know, even the alchemy.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, the Black the Land of cam that's black.
Speaker 1: That was the referring to the fertile soul of the
Speaker 1: nile when when the floods would come.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh, it says it's supposed to be the Yeah, it
Speaker 2: says it right here. As far as you know, the
Speaker 2: people that didn't mummify their body, it says if the
Speaker 2: body was destroyed, the spirit might be lost. Yep.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what Birdie with the human head
Speaker 1: would be flying around lost for all eternity.
Speaker 4: That's your boy, both Jacob, that's your best friend, him
Speaker 4: and his coum Crown, just you know, giving people writing
Speaker 4: and information and shit. But I don't know why the
Speaker 4: Central Americans, the Peruvians, any of them would have done
Speaker 4: the mummification. If that was just out of respect, if
Speaker 4: there was some sort of cultural significance, if it was
Speaker 4: for body preservation, for some afterlife type of thing.
Speaker 3: I mean, who really knows.
Speaker 1: China, That's what's so frustrating. You'll never know because of
Speaker 1: the conquistadors and the Roman Catholic Church went over there
Speaker 1: and they accept them with open arms, thinking that they
Speaker 1: were you know, vericocha or quasi kettle because it matched
Speaker 1: their legends. And they just destroyed these people and then
Speaker 1: they were christianizing them. And I'm a Christian, but I
Speaker 1: mean this aggravates me to no end. They went in
Speaker 1: and burnt all their writings, all of their statues, all
Speaker 1: their you know, sacred not tying. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: they called. It was like his ship or something like that.
Speaker 3: They just looked at that. Today. It's the only type
Speaker 3: of written language.
Speaker 4: That quote unquote that they could have had, and we
Speaker 4: will never be able to decipher it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we lost it all because they you know,
Speaker 1: burnt and destroyed all of their stuff to quote unquote
Speaker 1: christianize them. And and that's why it's such an enigma
Speaker 1: and we'll never know.
Speaker 2: That is frustrating.
Speaker 3: I did I wish we could read the knot tying. Dude,
Speaker 3: that is so sick. Jonathan.
Speaker 2: You ever looked into this, uh what specific kind of
Speaker 2: not tying?
Speaker 4: So they didn't have hieroglyphic language that we know of,
Speaker 4: They didn't have a written down scroll work that we
Speaker 4: know of. The only thing that survived was these little
Speaker 4: bits with little some of them are longer, some of
Speaker 4: them are short of of like rope or string or
Speaker 4: twine or whatever. And every so many inches they have
Speaker 4: a certain knot tied into them and a little bit down.
Speaker 4: It might be a different type of not tied in,
Speaker 4: or it might be the same knot and whatever. And
Speaker 4: we don't know if they use this as a way
Speaker 4: of tracking numbers, like a like an abacus type of thing.
Speaker 4: We don't know if this was a way of them
Speaker 4: right contracts or morse code or their signature or a calendar.
Speaker 4: We have no clue what they were using this for.
Speaker 4: But we know that their entire culture was using this
Speaker 4: as some form of like a record, and we will
Speaker 4: never be able to decipher it because with their language
Speaker 4: and with their customs and with everything else, went any
Speaker 4: knowledge of what those knots mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just looked it up. It's called kippoo.
Speaker 3: Oh you were close. Justinge my boys on it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says, particularly with the inca kippou system, where
Speaker 2: different knot arrangements on strings conveyed numerical and even narrative information.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, But we have no idea what, dude, and
Speaker 2: we never will. It's wild just thinking.
Speaker 1: About like the old traditions is all we have? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could have been over time.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, talking about oral traditions. What's that?
Speaker 4: A there's a language that is about to die and
Speaker 4: there's only two dudes on the entire earth that still
Speaker 4: speak it, and they refuse to speak to each other
Speaker 4: because of an old blood feud.
Speaker 3: Have y'all heard about that.
Speaker 4: It's somewhere in Central America And I want to say Mexico,
Speaker 4: but I might just be throwing that out because of
Speaker 4: the largest country on that part. But I know it's
Speaker 4: some ancient dialect of an ancient language.
Speaker 3: And literally only two dudes, both of them in like.
Speaker 4: Their eighties or nineties, are the only two guys on earth, people,
Speaker 4: human beings on Earth that can still fluently speak this
Speaker 4: language or even know it at all. And they refuse
Speaker 4: to speak it out loud because the only person they
Speaker 4: could speak.
Speaker 3: It to hates each other.
Speaker 2: That would be Manual Segovia and is it is it?
Speaker 6: Is it?
Speaker 2: Dro Velasquez, the last two fluent speakers of Aya Panico
Speaker 2: as sure, an indigenous Mexican language, who on it, who
Speaker 2: reportedly refused to communicate with each other, putting the language
Speaker 2: at risk of extinction.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're not going to last another twenty five years,
Speaker 4: so like there's another one biting the dust.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it says. The exact reason why they won't talk
Speaker 2: is unclear, but some reports suggest that they never really
Speaker 2: liked each other, that's all.
Speaker 4: Until I found said, and they didn't go way into
Speaker 4: detail with it, but they did say it was because
Speaker 4: of some long standing family blood feud. Now that could
Speaker 4: have been a complete fabrication to make it all spicy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 4: But the fact of the matter is that that's another
Speaker 4: language that's about to die.
Speaker 3: This language.
Speaker 4: Although yeah, a lot of their shit was passed down
Speaker 4: orally they did have something, but yeah, because of the
Speaker 4: Jesuits and the Roman Catholic Kurts and the conquistadors, it's
Speaker 4: gone forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And Brian Forster, he has a different perspective that I've
Speaker 1: never thought about, but you have to entertain, especially now
Speaker 1: that I've been exposed to it. But he was talking
Speaker 1: about because he, like I said early in the show,
Speaker 1: he lives there. He's been down there for thirty years
Speaker 1: and assimilated with the culture and the people and the
Speaker 1: Shamans and all that. He said, you have to question
Speaker 1: even the oral traditions that they were possibly tainted by
Speaker 1: the conquistadors and the Christian religion. He said, because he said,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it. He said, I'm not saying it's
Speaker 1: a fact. But you have to entertain and ask the
Speaker 1: question that the stories of Quasi Kettle and Varicocha, how
Speaker 1: they were white and bearded. He said, these were Catholics
Speaker 1: trying to Christianize a nation. He said, how easy would
Speaker 1: it be for them to be like, oh, this guy
Speaker 1: you're talking about, that was Jesus. Jesus was white and
Speaker 1: had a beard in a robe, and he had apostles right,
Speaker 1: And he said, even when they left the very coach,
Speaker 1: just that they walked on the water. Oh, and he
Speaker 1: talks about some of the some of the legends that
Speaker 1: they have have like a lot of Christian undertones. And
Speaker 1: he said it could very well be in you know,
Speaker 1: the fact or the truth. He says, but you know, it.
Speaker 3: Would be.
Speaker 1: Very negligent if you didn't ask the question. You know
Speaker 1: what the Mormons was these traditions altered by the Roman
Speaker 1: Catholic Church.
Speaker 4: The Church of Latter day Saints believes that Jesus made
Speaker 4: an appearance to the Native Americans and gave them certain
Speaker 4: lessons and traditions that have been lost in time, and
Speaker 4: then Joseph Smith found the record of it, apparently for
Speaker 4: them to use that as a tactic to try to
Speaker 4: convert these people, the same thing that a lot of
Speaker 4: the Catholic Church did to the Gallic and the Druidic
Speaker 4: and the Nordic tribes right saying, oh you ever got
Speaker 4: to do that?
Speaker 3: Bro, we have a saint that has that exact story.
Speaker 3: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: And if you look, actually I've seen it's like an
Speaker 4: encyclopedia set basically of all of the saints on record
Speaker 4: currently there's not like only a handful. There's a fuck Ton, okay,
Speaker 4: a metric fuck Ton, and some of these people, guys
Speaker 4: and girls, their story is like takes up three front
Speaker 4: to back pages of this encyclopedia, and.
Speaker 3: Some of them it's like five sentences.
Speaker 4: How many of those quote unquote saints existed possibly maybe
Speaker 4: in the realm of legend, but are definitely canonized, but
Speaker 4: they were thrown into the mix to convert a certain
Speaker 4: tribe somewhere with a certain belief Look, I mean, look,
Speaker 4: who knows, who knows?
Speaker 2: Yeah, modern day conquistadors. I suppose.
Speaker 3: Well, look, I mean not modern.
Speaker 4: That's that's back in the Last Crusade when they were
Speaker 4: taking on the Vikings and shit.
Speaker 2: But you know what I mean, yeah, not two thousand
Speaker 2: years ago, I guess is what I was trying to say.
Speaker 3: But semi yeah, I got you.
Speaker 2: But uh, but justin dude, I love the fact that
Speaker 2: you brought this whole elongated skull conversation over here. I
Speaker 2: feel like I learned a shitload about the like especially
Speaker 2: the baby being born with the elongated skull, Like it
Speaker 2: kind of changes what we view reality as whenever you
Speaker 2: start seeing shit like that, which is why I love
Speaker 2: it so much, because you know, there a lot of
Speaker 2: us were kind of we're kind of just thinking that, hey,
Speaker 2: this reality, this matrix that we live in, it's the same,
Speaker 2: It's always been that way. But then you start to
Speaker 2: find bones that say, you know otherwise, And I feel
Speaker 2: like that is just so cool learning about all this
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. And I mean, Jacob, what did you
Speaker 2: think about all this?
Speaker 4: I mean, I love it, dude, especially as like, okay,
Speaker 4: we know that they have been hiding giant skeletons, okay,
Speaker 4: and like even bringing that up there's a whole group
Speaker 4: of people in the academic community that will just scoff instantly,
Speaker 4: and then there's another group that are like, okay, now,
Speaker 4: but we really have been hiding the giant skeletons that
Speaker 4: are all over the earth.
Speaker 3: The elongated skulls.
Speaker 4: They're not hiding because they can't because there's too many
Speaker 4: of them that have been found from everybody from grave
Speaker 4: roberts to archaeological dig teams. They can't refute them. They
Speaker 4: can't say that this was dot dot dot. Yeah, there's
Speaker 4: examples clearly where this was humans that were doing this
Speaker 4: to their babies. But then what do you say about
Speaker 4: the fetuses right, what do you say to the children
Speaker 4: that were way too young or the ones that are
Speaker 4: showing clear signs that they weren't human or at least
Speaker 4: not our type of human. I mean, we know that
Speaker 4: they're repressing information, and you know me, I'm somebody that
Speaker 4: harps on the side of academia, but I'm also not
Speaker 4: so crazy to believe that they're not holding information from us.
Speaker 4: I think this is a lot of the at least
Speaker 4: the parts of this that we don't know. I feel
Speaker 4: like the guys at the top are not.
Speaker 3: The shadow government, not the CIA.
Speaker 4: No, Yeah, I'm telling like the people that actually know
Speaker 4: way more than they allow us to know. I feel
Speaker 4: like they know exactly what they are and who they're
Speaker 4: from and where they're from or when.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, but.
Speaker 4: I believe that that is also a lot of the
Speaker 4: reason why things are shaping out the way they are.
Speaker 3: Now. Why is the Space Force a thing, right, Why
Speaker 3: are we as America making the certain moves that we're making.
Speaker 3: Why are they coming forward with all this crazy UFO information,
Speaker 3: Why are they still pushing vaccines? I feel like all
Speaker 3: of this really does tie in, not all to the
Speaker 3: elongated skulls, but I feel like the elongated skulls are
Speaker 3: a puzzle piece to the overall mosaic. I mean, who's
Speaker 3: to say, maybe these.
Speaker 4: Were half fallen angel DNA, maybe these were alien and
Speaker 4: like that's why the Space Force is being created all that,
Speaker 4: because those cone headed fuckers are coming back in a
Speaker 4: couple of years and they know that.
Speaker 2: Could be both.
Speaker 3: Maybe that is maybe that has nothing to do.
Speaker 1: Back in the nineties guys, back in the nine the
Speaker 1: cone Heads movie, Yeah, they were tailing us back then.
Speaker 4: Maybe all of that has nothing to do with any
Speaker 4: of it, and very soon we will be finding out
Speaker 4: that the nephilum side of things was the correct way
Speaker 4: and that things that will be shaking out here in
Speaker 4: Israel here soon really are more dominoes falling into place
Speaker 4: for the end times.
Speaker 3: Look, there's so many possibilities.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there definitely is. So I guess your final thoughts
Speaker 2: on this justin? I mean, are these nephilum babies nephelum
Speaker 2: people like? Is this something that you've grown to accept
Speaker 2: or is there still more research to be done in
Speaker 2: order to better paint the picture.
Speaker 1: I think with the research that's been done, I mean
Speaker 1: there's been you know, everything that we can do to
Speaker 1: them that we know of. They've been carbon dated, they've
Speaker 1: had optometrists look at the eye sockets in the eyes.
Speaker 1: They've had anthropologists study the skull and measure the dimensions
Speaker 1: of the he and measure the brain case volume, the
Speaker 1: placement of the framing magnum in the back, the absence
Speaker 1: of the sajisseutral, the extra pocket holes that humans don't
Speaker 1: have for more blood flow to this bigger brain. I
Speaker 1: think the evidence is clear that there was a hybrid
Speaker 1: race that walked amongst us and was venerated as gods.
Speaker 1: You can call them a hybrid race. You could call
Speaker 1: them aliens, you could call them angels, you can call
Speaker 1: them nepheline. Regardless what you call them, they were here.
Speaker 2: Yes, dude, I feel like we're living in a fucking
Speaker 2: weird movie and we're just finding all these little all
Speaker 2: these little breadcrumbs that lead us to believe that, like,
Speaker 2: oh man, this place is just such a crazy, crazy
Speaker 2: like place that we're in, Like it's so As far
Speaker 2: as the idea of these cone heads, do you believe
Speaker 2: that they've all died out or do you believe that
Speaker 2: possibly some of them are still existing?
Speaker 3: Good question.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I think that would be pretty hard
Speaker 1: to hide, man, But the genetic marker still has to
Speaker 1: be here, ever, how diluted that it may be. Because
Speaker 1: we know the theory of entropy, you know, with science,
Speaker 1: we that's something we can observe. You could put an
Speaker 1: apple out on the table and within a couple of
Speaker 1: weeks that thing's going to start to rot. Nothing gets
Speaker 1: better with time, It only gets worse with time. And
Speaker 1: that DNA strand is not immune to the law of entropy.
Speaker 1: It's going to weaken over centuries and over time and
Speaker 1: through inner breeding, it's going to breed itself out and
Speaker 1: it's not going to be noticeable anymore, but that genetic
Speaker 1: marker is still going to be there.
Speaker 3: Now. With that being said, what are your thoughts on
Speaker 3: the Giant of Kandahar?
Speaker 4: Because, as Jonathan saying, do you think that these creatures
Speaker 4: may still exist? And I agree with you one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: It'd be very hard to hide, extremely hard to hide.
Speaker 4: And like you're saying, with the inner breeding and all
Speaker 4: these things, you're right, genetically.
Speaker 3: It would have weeded itself out.
Speaker 4: But the same thing is to be said about the giants,
Speaker 4: and allegedly we had one only twenty some odd years ago.
Speaker 3: Do you believe that story? Better? Question?
Speaker 1: I have to because it's it's my supernatural view. And
Speaker 1: how you know, even Jonathan was talking about how recently
Speaker 1: I've discovered how weird and strange and how little I
Speaker 1: know about this thing that we call reality. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: there's so many stories and testimonies of cryptid spottings, of UFOs,
Speaker 1: of spiritual entities, and yeah, of course there's probably some
Speaker 1: people that's just making stuff up for attention, but you
Speaker 1: can't rule them all out. And all it takes is
Speaker 1: one you know, my Kaiser said at night, I love it.
Speaker 1: He said, all it takes is for one person to
Speaker 1: be right, and it busts a paradigm. And if these
Speaker 1: nefilo elongated skull with thirty percent larger eye sockets and
Speaker 1: pupillary distance and predatory vision and night vision, and they
Speaker 1: were known to be cave dwellers, you know, I think
Speaker 1: it's crazy that we're spending all this money to go
Speaker 1: out in space and to explore space, but there's seventy
Speaker 1: percent of our oceans have not been explored. All the
Speaker 1: caverns and caves up and stuff underneath our feet have
Speaker 1: not been explored. If these things are cave dwellers and
Speaker 1: have night vision and all that stuff, it would be
Speaker 1: very simple to navigate these tunnel systems and these caves
Speaker 1: and keep hidden. And maybe these US military guys just
Speaker 1: happened to be at the wrong place at the wrong
Speaker 1: time and had an encounter.
Speaker 4: I agree, especially Afghanistan, their mountains and their cave systems
Speaker 4: are so vast and no way, and I mean, we
Speaker 4: have mountain ranges in America that I personally believe all
Speaker 4: of the caves and caverns have not been explored, so like,
Speaker 4: I'm not saying this proves anything, but who's to say
Speaker 4: that these elongated heads, larger eyed, predatory cave dwelling entities
Speaker 4: are not still living under the earth somewhere? We talk
Speaker 4: the crazy conspiracy joke for the longest time has been
Speaker 4: the underground civilization of the mole people, right, ha ha.
Speaker 4: Maybe there was a little bit more of a kernel
Speaker 4: of truth to that than what we originally thought.
Speaker 2: Who's to say, justin let the good cult members of
Speaker 2: the universe know where they can find Prometheus Lens Podcasts.
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Speaker 1: how you grow, and that's what I'm in it for, man.
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Speaker 2: Awesome. Man, Hey, we really appreciate you coming and hanging
Speaker 2: out with us tonight and talking about fucking crazy elongated skulls.
Speaker 2: I thought it was a myth for the longest time,
Speaker 2: but here we are. The proof is in the pudding,
Speaker 2: and we just so happen to be living in that pudding.
Speaker 2: So Jacob, do you want to give some knife hands brother?
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Speaker 4: Thanksgiving meals are gonna be going down, and we know
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Speaker 4: too much to drink. We all have him, and he's
Speaker 4: gonna start talking some anti government. He's gonna be talking
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Speaker 3: We want you to send him our podcast.
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Speaker 2: And with that being said, this was another beautiful episode
Speaker 2: of the Cults of Conspiracy and my name is Jonathan,
Speaker 2: I'm Jake, and there's one very important, extremely vital piece
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