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<v Speaker 1>Oh it's showtime.

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<v Speaker 2>People say good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When they go out to a theater, they are cold sodas,

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<v Speaker 3>hot popcorn, and no monsters.

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<v Speaker 4>In the Protection Booth, everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.

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<v Speaker 5>Done it as.

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<v Speaker 1>Murphy's law is this. If something can't go wrong, it

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<v Speaker 1>will go wrong at the worst possible time.

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<v Speaker 5>Careful what to see for? Yeah, well everything's unstable.

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<v Speaker 6>Speak for yourself.

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<v Speaker 5>I killed for some action.

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<v Speaker 2>The best action is no action.

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<v Speaker 5>This back. We are getting robbed and we need back up.

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<v Speaker 5>We're being jams.

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<v Speaker 1>Anybody at home, don't waste time there. You come out

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<v Speaker 1>now it.

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<v Speaker 5>We'll get you to a hospital. Helping the doors but.

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<v Speaker 1>Dead, be smart, that's not your money.

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<v Speaker 5>You didn't do this plan to keep two witnesses alive.

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<v Speaker 3>If you could blow these doors open, you wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>here negotiating with me.

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<v Speaker 5>Bad choice. Posing.

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<v Speaker 1>There's only one way out of this thing where you're

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<v Speaker 1>still breathing.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of The Projection Booth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host, Mike White. On this episode, I am

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<v Speaker 2>proud to say that I spoke with Dash Mike Cock.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been wanting to speak with him for years. If

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<v Speaker 2>you don't know the name, you definitely know the face.

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<v Speaker 2>You've seen him around in quite a few things, including

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<v Speaker 2>the new film Armor. It also starred Sylvester Stallone and

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Patrick. It'll be out in theaters and on digital

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<v Speaker 2>and on demand November twenty second, twenty twenty four. Had

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<v Speaker 2>a great time talking with mister Mihawk. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>have a great time in listening to the interview. Enjoy.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to ask you about Armor, but I'd love

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<v Speaker 2>to know a little bit more about you. How did

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<v Speaker 2>you get your starting acting?

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<v Speaker 6>I grew up in New York and my parents were

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<v Speaker 6>actually theater actors. They met each other when earlier television

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<v Speaker 6>was being produced and the starving actors would actually work

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<v Speaker 6>together to teach early television camera operators at RCA how

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<v Speaker 6>to shoot television, and they would hire actors to do scenes.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's how my mother and father met. But because

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<v Speaker 6>of that, they never wanted me to be an actor.

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<v Speaker 6>I never thought I would be. I wanted to be

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<v Speaker 6>a scientist, a biochemist. I went to bron Science and

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to That's what I really wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 6>I never thought about it, but it crept up on

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<v Speaker 6>me and I had always done things on the side.

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<v Speaker 6>Was fortunately introduced to an agent instead of having a

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<v Speaker 6>knock on somebody's door, and I probably booked, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 6>my first Law and Order or something like that everybody

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<v Speaker 6>does in New York and I went, well, I could

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<v Speaker 6>do this, and they were like, yeah, you guys were

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<v Speaker 6>in theater. So that really from there on. I don't

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<v Speaker 6>really have any formal training. I didn't go to school

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<v Speaker 6>for it, but I just kept working and learning by

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<v Speaker 6>experience with being around it. So that's the truth now.

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<v Speaker 2>I know if you've played a lot of roles over

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<v Speaker 2>the years, a lot of different types of characters, but

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<v Speaker 2>for me, it's that menace with a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>comedy that I always appreciate. So things like I'm punish

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<v Speaker 2>your war zone or a kiss kiss bang bang, It's

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<v Speaker 2>just like, oh, I love when this guy shows up.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. Yeah, I'd like to think that I've run

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<v Speaker 6>the gamut. I've done a couple of rom coms too

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<v Speaker 6>that nobody's seen. I'm kidding, but I have. But I

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<v Speaker 6>just like to play everything. I think it adds to it.

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<v Speaker 6>And yeah, if there isn't humor within a villain, I

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<v Speaker 6>don't unders then I think it's boring.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I really liked you in Sex and Death one

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<v Speaker 2>on one.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh my goodness, Mike, you're pulling out them gems. Wow. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>I love that you saw that movie. That was fun.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you. As many colors as you can bring. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>still learning, and it's this kind of thing is I

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<v Speaker 6>appreciate very much because it reminds me that this is

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<v Speaker 6>why I've been doing it for so long. And I

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<v Speaker 6>have to sometimes come back to oh okay because actually

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<v Speaker 6>people saw it and they liked it, and not that

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<v Speaker 6>I'm an actor and human so we all need validation.

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<v Speaker 6>But it doesn't happen all the time as we close

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<v Speaker 6>off our bubble. So thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't working with Sylvester Stallone and Armor.

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<v Speaker 6>That's the question that everybody's gonna ask me, you want

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<v Speaker 6>to work with Sly? It was really I've been telling

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<v Speaker 6>people like, first off, he really responded to the things

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<v Speaker 6>that I was doing, and he's a legend, and I

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<v Speaker 6>believed his brain. What I love the most is that

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<v Speaker 6>we both were sitting there like trying not to overdirect

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<v Speaker 6>the movie together because he definitely has that brain and

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<v Speaker 6>I definitely have that brain. So in that sense it

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<v Speaker 6>clicked really well of how do we get things done

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<v Speaker 6>in a short period of time. So that was really

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<v Speaker 6>nice and now we both know how it would cut.

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<v Speaker 6>And he was just kind and a gentleman. He would

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<v Speaker 6>give me a note and he would take a note

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<v Speaker 6>if I gave it, and I felt comfortable in doing so.

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<v Speaker 6>He wasn't unopened, and this is the way it has

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<v Speaker 6>to be. And coming from somebody who's done when he's done,

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<v Speaker 6>obviously that was fun.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I know he's got very much an actor's brain, but

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<v Speaker 2>very much like you said, that writer's brain, that director's brain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it must have been nice to be able

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<v Speaker 2>to go back and forth with him, because you're no

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<v Speaker 2>slouch either when it comes to directing and especially being

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<v Speaker 2>able to do what you do as well as even

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<v Speaker 2>being a musician. That's got to add a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>shading as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Is that a segue to me being a musician?

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<v Speaker 2>If you want it to be, it can be.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>I appreciate it because people don't normally ask about that.

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<v Speaker 6>I enjoy all forms of expression, and the older I get,

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<v Speaker 6>the more interested and also freed up, but not in

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<v Speaker 6>a way because you don't. It has to be a

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<v Speaker 6>certain way to some people, and you don't want to

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<v Speaker 6>be like actors and musicians or people like, oh do

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<v Speaker 6>I want to do that? But the older I get,

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<v Speaker 6>the more I'm like, that's who you are and that's

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<v Speaker 6>how you grew up, and that's okay. I'm not trying

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<v Speaker 6>to be something i'm not. And if I make alternative

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<v Speaker 6>orchestral hip hop, then that's fine. And my two children

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<v Speaker 6>play piano and violin and we do. That's just it is.

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<v Speaker 6>So I'm happy for that. I'm happy to express ourselves

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<v Speaker 6>in any way we feel. But the hardest part is

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<v Speaker 6>just continuing to be comfortable in your own skin, obviously,

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<v Speaker 6>and it comes with age more so you also have

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<v Speaker 6>to navigate things in a certain way. But with regards

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<v Speaker 6>to Sly, we both could see the writing and we

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<v Speaker 6>can go, Okay, that's not gonna work. That work. Why

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<v Speaker 6>don't we try this line here? Well, it's like shorthand

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<v Speaker 6>we're gonna have to shoot this. You weren't here for this,

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<v Speaker 6>I wasn't we're going to pop this off here? And

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<v Speaker 6>it was like it was effortless, and it made me

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<v Speaker 6>appreciate and also look back that because in my mind,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like I'm twenty five and I haven't been

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<v Speaker 6>doing this for thirty years, but I have, and our

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<v Speaker 6>technical aptitude is such that it is, and we can

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<v Speaker 6>make things go faster and also take care of our

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<v Speaker 6>fellow actors and our crew at the same time and

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<v Speaker 6>make your day. And so that was fun to be

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<v Speaker 6>with someone who's done it way more than I have

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<v Speaker 6>and been on a lot bigger sets. But it was

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<v Speaker 6>like he trusted me, and we trusted each other, and

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<v Speaker 6>that's what it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 5>Always.

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<v Speaker 2>This might be a stupid question, but what was the

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<v Speaker 2>weather like when you were out there? Because it feels

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<v Speaker 2>like you're probably on that bridge for a long damn time.

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<v Speaker 6>My friend, It's not a stupid question. You can see

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<v Speaker 6>and you can see that he had his own makeup artists,

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<v Speaker 6>and that goes without saying, because I was like, it

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<v Speaker 6>was one hundred degrees and humid in Louisiana's last Mississippi,

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<v Speaker 6>and I was wearing a lot more gear. I was

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<v Speaker 6>telling somebody yesterday. I think I was like, I kept

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<v Speaker 6>trying to bust his ball that he wasn't wearing a

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<v Speaker 6>flat jacket because he doesn't have to big and I

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<v Speaker 6>wish that I had. That's what I can aspire to

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<v Speaker 6>in the future. Right, I'm not wearing an extra two

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<v Speaker 6>layer because it was hot. Everybody, Yeah, everybody was about

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<v Speaker 6>hydration these days, but that was very much a part

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<v Speaker 6>of it. It was brutal. Thank god, Jason and Josh

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<v Speaker 6>got to shoot most of their stuff in a build

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<v Speaker 6>in the studio. But that's what it is. I've done

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<v Speaker 6>it before. I used to run up hills in the

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<v Speaker 6>thin Red Line when I was twenty six, chasing cranes

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<v Speaker 6>for twe hundred and nineteen days. So this one was

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<v Speaker 6>not other than my age. Now it's not that difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>I know. We just have a few minutes left, but

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<v Speaker 2>could you tell me a little bit about some of

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<v Speaker 2>the work that you do for Tourett's and the charity work.

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<v Speaker 6>I have towards the Jim Touretts doesn't have me as

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<v Speaker 6>what they like to say it's a cliche, but I

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<v Speaker 6>had take since I was six. Well, they've subsided to

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<v Speaker 6>an extent after I was like eighteen, but they were

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<v Speaker 6>really bad when I was a kid, and I think

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<v Speaker 6>that kind of need to why I became an actor

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<v Speaker 6>looking back now, just in terms of always watching everybody

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<v Speaker 6>who I think was watching me or not. But then

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<v Speaker 6>the character study was subconscious, like somebody's looking at me

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<v Speaker 6>because I'm doing this and what are they thinking?

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<v Speaker 5>And whatever?

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<v Speaker 6>And I think ultimately because I wasn't destined to be

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<v Speaker 6>an actor, but that was the underneath. Yeah, I've been

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<v Speaker 6>working with the THAA now Direct Association of America. It

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<v Speaker 6>was the TSA since I was eleven. I did like

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<v Speaker 6>a VHS video for them back when. And I just again,

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<v Speaker 6>I feel like people are a misdiagnosed and people who

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<v Speaker 6>don't have it are misdiagnosed. If I could say it

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<v Speaker 6>like that, because you have to. It's a hard one

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<v Speaker 6>for people to understand. It doesn't make sense and it

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<v Speaker 6>doesn't click itch to scratch that we have You'll never

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<v Speaker 6>understand it fully and and but I want people to

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<v Speaker 6>get as close as they can to to what it

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<v Speaker 6>it feels like in their skin. And if I can

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<v Speaker 6>help that in any way, I always will because I

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<v Speaker 6>believe that you know, would acceptance and surrender to certain things. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 6>the world will be a better place.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there a good place for people to keep up

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<v Speaker 2>with you online?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not a huge social media I'm a fairweather person,

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<v Speaker 6>but you can go to dashmihowk dot net and isn't

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<v Speaker 6>the fan my bandesfa dot com But I don't also

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<v Speaker 6>and since I have threats, I have OCD and it's

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<v Speaker 6>creating a post takes me like an hour because I

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<v Speaker 6>want it to be perfect and it's really hard. I

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<v Speaker 6>have two young kids and when I'm doing that, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 6>I could be spending more time with my children. But yes,

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<v Speaker 6>obviously because of this, I'll be more prominent. But is

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<v Speaker 6>my hawk is normally where you can find mek.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister my Hawk. Thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 2>This is great time.

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<v Speaker 6>Did he ask you a quick question? Yeah, because I

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<v Speaker 6>worked with Mike White, the other one a long time ago,

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<v Speaker 6>and now I'm glad that he's working. How many people

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<v Speaker 6>ask you about that? And is it annoying?

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<v Speaker 2>Not very many, And no, it's never annoying. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's actually opened up a couple of doors. It was

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<v Speaker 2>I got an interview with oh, got Brenda Vaccaro once

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<v Speaker 2>and she thought I was the other Mike White. And

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<v Speaker 2>then there was a director who I won't name, who

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<v Speaker 2>is just like you know how it is, and he

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<v Speaker 2>just kept saying, you know how it is? Like it

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<v Speaker 2>was before we were on zoo or not.

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<v Speaker 6>He had never met.

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<v Speaker 2>No picture, no picture, yees yeah. And then he was like,

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<v Speaker 2>where you located these days? I'm like Detroit, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>like Detroit, that's so odd.

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<v Speaker 6>I was like, yeah, Mike's a great guy. You wrote

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<v Speaker 6>or something and it didn't go sadly, but I'm glad

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<v Speaker 6>that everybody's doing well, and I'm glad to talk to you,

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<v Speaker 6>and I would love to do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love that too. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 5>Too.

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<v Speaker 6>Shots.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the evil that men do. And this

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<v Speaker 4>is the evil that men do. And this is the

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<v Speaker 4>evil that men do.

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<v Speaker 5>Any and your sin and then when he consent you and.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the evil that men do. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>evil that men do. This is the evil that men do.

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<v Speaker 4>Any and you sin, and that's when you consent.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it out a thought, just to see that

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<v Speaker 3>was swimming unconscious. Father didn't bother. You're gonna bring with

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<v Speaker 3>this woman. I'm gonna protect it from the start. How

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<v Speaker 6>Don't you know? You play a bard. There's a message

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<v Speaker 6>you said, give me your chance.

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<v Speaker 3>know the cycle. You don't like you, So your heart

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<v Speaker 3>is in gold. And though it's honest me the men

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<v Speaker 3>about it. Honor your promise, the one.

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<v Speaker 5>You gave them Mama when you knew she'd let you

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<v Speaker 3>masters within violence and petty crime, there's no violence.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all alone on this island.

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<v Speaker 5>The life of the thing of shoves.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the evil that men do, shut and this

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<v Speaker 4>is the evil that men do. This is the evil

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<v Speaker 4>that men do any ain, And that's when he can

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<v Speaker 6>And this is the evil that men do. This is

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<v Speaker 6>the evil that men do. This is the evil that.

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<v Speaker 5>Men do any in sin, and that's when he can

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<v Speaker 3>Now I'm a young man looking for acceptance when the

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<v Speaker 3>repts came men over me. This neckless changed to signify

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<v Speaker 2>Never fire the eliable.

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<v Speaker 6>Appeel I feel.

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<v Speaker 3>The story is like when you in your hate day

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<v Speaker 3>and you got this a day that you used to day.

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<v Speaker 3>You're going to get in great shape with your lily

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<v Speaker 5>This is fucking day rate.

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<v Speaker 3>They snakes and altas gambo, queen creep blue ship you

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<v Speaker 5>They just tricked you.

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<v Speaker 2>The promise of.

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<v Speaker 3>The pride of a man a war than a shame

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<v Speaker 3>was no plan. Heartland of the hood, and your boots

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<v Speaker 3>will be shaking it when you're steering that language.

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<v Speaker 6>You're trained to be taken on the shoves.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is the evil that men do shut and.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the evil that men do.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the evil that men do an engend and

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<v Speaker 4>that's when he can send you a shust. This is

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<v Speaker 4>the evil that men do on shust and this is

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<v Speaker 4>the evil that men.

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<v Speaker 5>Do that shust.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the evil that men do and the engend

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<v Speaker 4>and that's when he can.

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<v Speaker 7>Send you is more, the moms lost to the wars,

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<v Speaker 7>the real soldiers that fight for their brothers and sisters.

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<v Speaker 5>Anything of life is not a game.

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<v Speaker 3>Shame of those who just to use their influence to manipulate.

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<v Speaker 7>The young and im barbarised, and those who take metains.

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<v Speaker 5>On their own hands. Shust shall have.

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<v Speaker 7>Only blood, and they're consisted therewith the shust.

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<v Speaker 6>This is the evil that men do, Shust. This is

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<v Speaker 6>the evil that men do.

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<v Speaker 4>This is the evil that men do in the as

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<v Speaker 4>and And that's when you can send you