Speaker 1: The more radical people become in these positions or in
Speaker 1: these attitudes, then you get justification for the reactions.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a problem reaction solution situation to
Speaker 1: where the more people begin to, you know, think that, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to criticize Israel or not Y'ah here
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then I get called anti Semitic, then
Speaker 1: I guess I'll just be in seymnical. I guess I'll
Speaker 1: like Hitler now, right, So it just sort of pushes
Speaker 1: people into these extremes, and then that extreme can be
Speaker 1: exploited and can be capitalized upon. And ironically, the more
Speaker 1: people adopt the Hilarian perspective, the more people in Israel
Speaker 1: will then feel justified in their counter reaction to that.
Speaker 1: So it's a problem reaction dialectic that necessitates one another.
Speaker 1: And you know, it's the same when people ask and
Speaker 1: try to get me arguing about the issue between Oh,
Speaker 1: it's so, who do you like Palestinians and Hamas or
Speaker 1: do you like you know, Zionism and Yahoo? And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: you don't think I can from a real, sincere nuanced
Speaker 1: position criticize both of these positions and say that I'm
Speaker 1: not really into either one, and I would have a
Speaker 1: long time ago, maybe ten years ago, probably been more
Speaker 1: on the side of the the Hamas side of things,
Speaker 1: not because I am pro hamasra but I was ignorant
Speaker 1: of Islam, and it took me the last seven years
Speaker 1: of debating a lot of the top Muslims and studying
Speaker 1: Islam pretty in depth. Right now on my channel, we're
Speaker 1: lecturing through an FBI consultant's book.
Speaker 2: On al Qaeda.
Speaker 1: And you know, and I'm not saying I don't believe
Speaker 1: the nine to eleven, you know, conspiracy narrative.
Speaker 2: I do. I think it was a conspiracy.
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make it even if Islam and Islamic
Speaker 1: radicals who happen to be CIA proxy soldiers like Kai,
Speaker 1: even if they're the ones that are sort of the
Speaker 1: front group and they're Muslims, like, that doesn't make Islam
Speaker 1: good a my, you know what I mean. So it's like,
Speaker 1: if I'm an Orthodox Trician, I have a long pedigree
Speaker 1: of opposing both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam.
Speaker 2: They're both wrong.
Speaker 1: But these dialectics entrap so many people, and unfortunately there's
Speaker 1: just no way to talk about this topic without being nuanced.
Speaker 1: But most people don't want to be nuanced, and most
Speaker 1: people in the power structure in these different systems want
Speaker 1: people to be radicalized and not nuanced, and a lot
Speaker 1: of these people don't even care that you're going to
Speaker 1: be nuanced.
Speaker 3: I'm so happy to welcome my guest, Jay Dyer.
Speaker 4: He is an author, comedian, TV presenter known for his
Speaker 4: deep analysis of Hollywood, geopolitics, and culture. His graduate work
Speaker 4: folks on Psychological Warfare and Film, and he's the author
Speaker 4: of two books, Esoteric Hollywood one and two, and the
Speaker 4: co creator and co host of the television show Hollywood Decoded.
Speaker 4: He's been featured on numerous popular shows and podcasts, and
Speaker 4: in debates the World's Top Debaters. You can follow him
Speaker 4: at Jay Dyer, on YouTube, Jay'sanalysis, dot com, and on
Speaker 4: This might be an auded date bio because are you
Speaker 4: working on a third I think you're working on a
Speaker 4: third Esoteric hollywoods that come out yet, Jay.
Speaker 3: Welcome to the chew, sir Ah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's ship's actually in a few days. I'm glad
Speaker 1: you mentioned that. Yeah, that will be my third Hollywood book,
Speaker 1: completing the trilogy. And then I have a couple of
Speaker 1: philosophy books, so technically five books, but yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: final of the trilogy.
Speaker 4: I was going to say, it's is it easier or
Speaker 4: harder for you? Because and I love the first two
Speaker 4: esoteric Hollywood books. I'm looking forward to the third. But
Speaker 4: you know, when you wrote the first two, they it
Speaker 4: seemed like they still tried to conceal it. It seemed like,
Speaker 4: you know, you had to find things in little symbols
Speaker 4: and this is what this means, and this is now
Speaker 4: you got Lady Gaga dressed up like Satan with a
Speaker 4: bunch of like naked women writhing in pain underneath it.
Speaker 4: And it's like, do we even need to analyze this anymore?
Speaker 4: Can we just point at it and go, look, guys,
Speaker 4: look at what they're doing. I mean, is it easier
Speaker 4: or harder for you? With how sort of upfront they
Speaker 4: are about their evil?
Speaker 1: Now it seems like there was a real pivot moment
Speaker 1: when Bruce Gender was Woman of the Year. It seems
Speaker 1: like after that, in around twenty sixteen or whatever it was,
Speaker 1: things got way more overt openly satanic. If you remember,
Speaker 1: little nas X had his satanic shoes, his devil shoes
Speaker 1: sort of marketing Gemmick. Yeah, a lot of its marketing
Speaker 1: gimmicks for sure, but also there is this you know
Speaker 1: layer to which I think some of these people are
Speaker 1: serious about their ritual magic and their occultism. So I
Speaker 1: would say you're right, like most of most of them,
Speaker 1: and most movies that come out are just not really
Speaker 1: any good anymore. It's really hard you have to search
Speaker 1: for I spent more time like looking for a decent
Speaker 1: movie and watching trailers and trying to find old movies
Speaker 1: that I do actually watching movies.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker 4: Heres well, and how has that affected the way that
Speaker 4: the bad guy approach things? Because obviously Hollywood was an
Speaker 4: incredibly powerful tool for shaping minds. Now Hollywood's not nearly
Speaker 4: as powerful as it once was. Nobody really cares about
Speaker 4: what they're doing, and it's amazing when you go back
Speaker 4: and watch things from the pre Trump era, I always
Speaker 4: forget what a big deal celebrity was back then.
Speaker 3: It's sort of fallen off back then.
Speaker 4: I mean, you could listen to a radio show and
Speaker 4: the only thing they'd be talking about was Tom Cruise
Speaker 4: and his daughter, and it was all celebrity gossip. That's
Speaker 4: sort of fallen by the wayside. Are they less powerful
Speaker 4: now or are they changing the way they're doing things?
Speaker 1: Yeah, social media, for good and for ill, has had
Speaker 1: a huge impact on that whole domain. It's sort of
Speaker 1: replaced the old ideas of the celebrities, and so now
Speaker 1: celebrities actually kind of try to also be social media people,
Speaker 1: and they've begun sort of putting social media people.
Speaker 2: Into movies action the last year.
Speaker 1: So your role is sometimes dependent upon the degree to
Speaker 1: which you have a following, but a lot of that
Speaker 1: can be you know, fake and be created. We know
Speaker 1: that people buy bots all the time, so both things
Speaker 1: are happening.
Speaker 2: Hollywood's dying. It doesn't have the power that it had.
Speaker 1: It served its purpose though, because it was there too
Speaker 1: well to do many things, but to control the population
Speaker 1: through giving us new mythologies and new stories, new narratives
Speaker 1: to guide our lives by kind of a replacement for
Speaker 1: Biblical Christianity and the purpose that it served in Western civilization.
Speaker 1: But also now you know, video games are taken over
Speaker 1: and the brain blast through brain rot of TikTok, it's
Speaker 1: pretty much taken his place and serves us purpose. So
Speaker 1: you talk to young people, they don't know what movies
Speaker 1: are or music art, but they can tell you don't.
Speaker 4: Even know what planet they're on half the time. Short
Speaker 4: short break. We'll be right back with Jay DIYer. Don't
Speaker 4: go anywhere, all right, Welcome back, ladies and gentlemen. Jayder
Speaker 4: is my guest. You can find his website Jay'sanalysis dot com,
Speaker 4: and he's on YouTube at Jay Dyer. And you're on
Speaker 4: x as well. I know what's your what's your account?
Speaker 4: How do people find you there?
Speaker 2: Yeah? Pretty much Jay Dyer everywhere.
Speaker 1: I think on Instagram, I'm Jay's Analysis, but you can
Speaker 1: still find me pretty easily.
Speaker 2: So yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, the the Hollywood mass mind control
Speaker 1: complex served its purpose, and it's kind of it's kind
Speaker 1: of shedding its skin and sort of morphing into something new.
Speaker 2: And I think video games are taken over.
Speaker 1: You know, the younger you go, the less kids care
Speaker 1: about movies, and they don't have the attention span to
Speaker 1: sit through even you know, a one and a half
Speaker 1: hour movie, much less of two hour movies. So I
Speaker 1: think video games have done their job, and TikTok has
Speaker 1: done this job to sort of destroy attention spans. I
Speaker 1: was listening to some research that some teachers were citing,
Speaker 1: and they were talking about how bad it is in
Speaker 1: their grade school and even high school classes that no
Speaker 1: one can read.
Speaker 2: They don't know anything.
Speaker 1: They have the attention span of I think eight seconds
Speaker 1: is the max or the average. So I mean we
Speaker 1: we're raising up a zombie generation that will just be
Speaker 1: a mindless horde of orcs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, nothing blows my mind more than the
Speaker 4: man on the street. Interviews will go around like usually
Speaker 4: it's like a you know, New York Times Square or something,
Speaker 4: and people don't know I mean, they don't know how
Speaker 4: much a quarter is worth. They don't know that Utah
Speaker 4: is a state. They don't know how many moons we have.
Speaker 4: It's like, I I worry. I worry quite a bit.
Speaker 4: And it almost seems like Hollywood sort of destroyed itself, right,
Speaker 4: because they've spent so long undermining the things that humans
Speaker 4: connect to that they can't even make good stories anymore.
Speaker 4: They've destroyed the concept of a hero. So it's like
Speaker 4: nobody wants to watch a movie about a girl boss
Speaker 4: who has every you know, has everything she needs and
Speaker 4: everybody else just needs to get out of her way.
Speaker 3: It's like, no, we want the struggle.
Speaker 4: We want, you know, to see people fall and then
Speaker 4: rise up against all odds, and Hollywood just can't seem
Speaker 4: to make that stuff anymore. And in a way it's
Speaker 4: a consequence of their own ideology, sort of coming to fruition,
Speaker 4: isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Frankfurt School many years ago, the cultural Marxist warriors,
Speaker 1: put out a book about the authoritarian personality, and they
Speaker 1: said that the real root of the authoritarian personality isn't
Speaker 1: a political leader or a tyrant in government. It's actually
Speaker 1: the father, the data of a family, is the archetype
Speaker 1: and the root of all fascism. So the roots of antifa,
Speaker 1: which you could say go all the way back to
Speaker 1: something like the Bolsheviks, go all the way back to
Speaker 1: the Fabian Socialists, actually had a lot of terminology and
Speaker 1: slogans that you still see being used by social justice
Speaker 1: warriors maoism, et cetera.
Speaker 2: That's the roots of that.
Speaker 1: And it's this weird inverted envy based system where you
Speaker 1: have to destroy anything that is better because better could
Speaker 1: only happen on the basis of some form of oppression.
Speaker 1: And so in this weird inverted morality or anti morality,
Speaker 1: I guess you could say morality. It's actually a form
Speaker 1: of greed, a form of envy that cloaks itself as
Speaker 1: equality and fairness, as I'm sure everybody in this audience
Speaker 1: knows in terms of Marxism and equalitarianism, But same principle
Speaker 1: applies for what we're talking about here where Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: I mean, there was a study I think Alex mentioned
Speaker 1: that where some high percentage of Gen Z and Gen
Speaker 1: alpha are beginning to think as they come up that
Speaker 1: capitalism has failed and so the only answer is socialism, Marxism.
Speaker 2: So Marxism making.
Speaker 1: A return, and there were British Ministry of Defense papers
Speaker 1: that were being written, I think about eighteen years ago.
Speaker 1: You can read the one of the Guardian where they
Speaker 1: said they predicted that Marxism would make a comeback.
Speaker 2: So that's where we are.
Speaker 1: Destruction of the family, destruction of the archetype of the Father,
Speaker 1: destruction of God, the Father who is the ultimate archetype
Speaker 1: of the Father. All those things go together to create
Speaker 1: this technocratic future that we're going into.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's it's it's something that's like I noticed it,
Speaker 4: but I don't exactly know how to define it exactly,
Speaker 4: because what you're talking about has really you know, crazy,
Speaker 4: real world, real world implications. We talk a lot about
Speaker 4: the Kindler study in Germany, and you know that's the
Speaker 4: one where they were literally handing out children to pedophiles.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so you look at that and you go,
Speaker 3: what why would they do that? Right?
Speaker 4: Okay, are there pedophiles, obviously, and they you know, there's
Speaker 4: the the obvious reason why they'd want to but how
Speaker 4: did they justify it? And what you learn is that
Speaker 4: the guy who conducted the experiment, his dad was a
Speaker 4: Nazi and his whole thing was, Okay, Nazism, Fascism descends
Speaker 4: from sexual purity, so we got to destroy that to
Speaker 4: you know, so we never have fascism again. So it
Speaker 4: goes right to the heart of what you're saying that
Speaker 4: it's like the father and sexual purity has been identified
Speaker 4: by these people as something evil. And then the other
Speaker 4: thing that comes to mind is that image of that
Speaker 4: I reference all the time. I really should just have
Speaker 4: it like taped to the desk or something, because to me,
Speaker 4: it just goes again right to the heart of the leftist,
Speaker 4: which is that image of the nineteen fifties happy family,
Speaker 4: but over each person it's like, you know, the dad's
Speaker 4: like I'm secretly gay, you know, the daughter, you know,
Speaker 4: the wife is like I was lobotomized and have to
Speaker 4: take all these drugs just to deal with my life.
Speaker 4: And there's something about seeing a nice, happy family and
Speaker 4: Americana cooking out that left to see that and they
Speaker 4: go there has to be something evil and sick and
Speaker 4: twisted underneath it. Nothing can be good. And I'm so
Speaker 4: we recognize it, but I can't quite define it. I
Speaker 4: can't quite like sink my teeth into like what is
Speaker 4: what drives that mentality?
Speaker 1: Saint John Chrystalstom said that the family is a little church.
Speaker 1: It's a small icon of what the church is a
Speaker 1: bigger version of the family. So that's a fundamental concept
Speaker 1: in the Orthodox Church that we we always go back
Speaker 1: to because the reason that the left hates that. It's
Speaker 1: the same idea that when people, you know, vampires see
Speaker 1: across they shriek because anything that it's an icon or
Speaker 1: an image or a reminder of the good, the pure,
Speaker 1: the holy, or the archetypal referencing back to God, those
Speaker 1: things are innately going to cause a recoil reaction from
Speaker 1: vampires and the Left is pretty much a bunch of
Speaker 1: orc goblin vampires that are demonically energized, and that's why.
Speaker 2: They act that way.
Speaker 1: I would add, too funny you mentioned the sexual revolution
Speaker 1: because you just brought to mind speaking of the Frankfurt School.
Speaker 1: One of the other characters connected to it was Wilhelm Reich.
Speaker 1: You may know him from Oregone Fame, which is this
Speaker 1: bizarre con artist thing that he came up with, which
Speaker 1: is like a bunch of trash stuck together in a
Speaker 1: piece of plastic, which somehow mystically brings good vibes. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it's supposed to do. It's obviously some
Speaker 1: sort of nonsense. But Wilhelm Reich is also known for
Speaker 1: being connected to the Frankfurt School and a proponent of
Speaker 1: sexual sexual revolution and liberation, all the pan type stuff
Speaker 1: that we talk about, and he was very candid about
Speaker 1: why he was such a big proponent of it. He
Speaker 1: said that in order to get rid of the patriarchy,
Speaker 1: you have to have the rise of feminism, the goddess
Speaker 1: and sexual revolution, because that would be the only way
Speaker 1: the society would disintegrate as long as there was fallocentric
Speaker 1: or logos based masculine order. There would be boundaries. Men
Speaker 1: set boundaries, God sets boundaries. That's the purpose of law,
Speaker 1: and you can't have love without law and without boundaries,
Speaker 1: and that's why all those things necessarily go together. So
Speaker 1: to destroy the male archetype, destroy the archetype of God
Speaker 1: the Father, results in the necessary destruction of the family
Speaker 1: and the sexual liberation of society as a whole, end
Speaker 1: the rise of and promotion of the Goddess. And so
Speaker 1: Wilhelm Reich said that the New Age movement would have
Speaker 1: to endorse and promote in the sixties countercoastal revolution as
Speaker 1: well feminism and feminine sexual liberation in order to have
Speaker 1: the society that we're going into. And he was absolutely correct.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's evil, but he was open about it.
Speaker 3: Right, as so many of these people are.
Speaker 4: It seems almost like they think that if they're open
Speaker 4: about their evil, it doesn't make it evil anymore. I'm
Speaker 4: sure you've noticed that where the streamer Destiny comes to mind,
Speaker 4: where he's just engaging the most disgusting stuff, but just
Speaker 4: because he's just upfront about it, he acts like it's
Speaker 4: like no big deal, and it's like, no, it's still
Speaker 4: your what you're doing is still deeply immoral. You just
Speaker 4: aren't shy about it for some reason, which is really
Speaker 4: more of an indictment of you than anything else. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Or you know, order versus I'm just like taking notes
Speaker 4: as you're writing, William Reich, order versus chaos, because that's
Speaker 4: another thing that I think that people pitch chaos as
Speaker 4: if it's freedom. They see order and they say that's
Speaker 4: a trap, that's oppression, you're being controlled. But in reality,
Speaker 4: when you really think about it, I mean, to have liberty,
Speaker 4: you have to have peace, to have piece, you have
Speaker 4: to have order. They want to extract us from the order,
Speaker 4: throw you into a world of chaos and say you're free,
Speaker 4: have fun, And that's not really how it works, right,
Speaker 4: But it's a very compelling argument they make when they say,
Speaker 4: these rules that are being set down restricting you, you
Speaker 4: have to break free from them.
Speaker 3: How do you make the argument for order?
Speaker 1: Well, for anything to function, there has to be some obviously,
Speaker 1: some set of rules, some of authority, some set of
Speaker 1: agreed upon principles. So I mean, to me, that's just
Speaker 1: the most common sense that anyone would argue against that
Speaker 1: as kind of like I don't even know if you
Speaker 1: could wait Ei there's no point in wasting time even
Speaker 1: arguing with a person that doesn't see that at But
Speaker 1: I mean most of society unfortunately, has been brainwashed into
Speaker 1: this position.
Speaker 2: So it's actually a very popular position.
Speaker 1: And the idea I think is that freedom necessitates all
Speaker 1: removal of restraints, no boundaries. Right, love is love. These
Speaker 1: phrases that we hear, these sort of slogans that people say,
Speaker 1: and really what they mean is whatever my body desires,
Speaker 1: whatever I want is quote love. Or they mistake it
Speaker 1: for an emotion or a passion or you know, as
Speaker 1: we would say, like biological desires or passions.
Speaker 2: These kinds of things.
Speaker 1: They're not inherently bad, but if they're misordered or misdirected,
Speaker 1: then they end up being a net negative for the
Speaker 1: individual and for society as a whole. So you can't
Speaker 1: have a society that functions, for example, where say theft
Speaker 1: is legal. I mean, if theft is legal, nobody can
Speaker 1: run a business, nobody can have a home, nobody can
Speaker 1: have private property, nobody can have you know, their family.
Speaker 1: So very basic ideas that are obviously essential to running anything,
Speaker 1: whether a business or a school or a home, would
Speaker 1: have to be would be impossible in situations where there
Speaker 1: were absolutely no boundaries. But this is really the root
Speaker 1: of liberalism and leftism. I remember reading a famous essay
Speaker 1: by the famous Semiititian Lumberto Eco. He wrote an essay
Speaker 1: I think it was in the New York Times maybe,
Speaker 1: but it was many years ago, and he's a sort
Speaker 1: of super liberal postmodernist.
Speaker 2: But he was very honest in this article.
Speaker 1: It's called or fascism, and he says that the real
Speaker 1: enemy that the left must always combat isn't political, it's
Speaker 1: actually the idea of capital t truth or the idea
Speaker 1: that there is such a thing as truth. In other words,
Speaker 1: fascism in his mindset, is anything that says that there's
Speaker 1: objective truth, that there's right and wrong, that there's values.
Speaker 1: That's all fascism. And so the left is that, he says,
Speaker 1: an eternal war against truth. So that's a lot more honest. Right,
Speaker 1: part of the left who tries to have the moral
Speaker 1: high ground. Whorse, they don't believe in morals anyway, So
Speaker 1: don't let them have the moral high ground because they
Speaker 1: don't believe in morals.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 4: And it again, it seems like this is sort of
Speaker 4: a through line through so much of what we're talking
Speaker 4: about the battle between subjectivism and objectivism. And of course,
Speaker 4: as you think about that, it's obvious what that really
Speaker 4: is is battle between man and God. Right, objective truth
Speaker 4: is God is just how the world is, and subjective
Speaker 4: truth is the worship of the self. What I think
Speaker 4: and how I feel must be true. Yes, so this
Speaker 4: really is.
Speaker 2: And it's like.
Speaker 4: I can't remember what I was talking about yesday, but
Speaker 4: I probably went on a five minute ranch about subjective
Speaker 4: or subjective Yes, I don't remember what it was, but
Speaker 4: it was some political thing because it's just this through line.
Speaker 4: Do people even realize that that's what they're doing? Like,
Speaker 4: this is my struggle is, like how do we even
Speaker 4: get through to people who genuinely don't care about objective truth?
Speaker 4: It's even worth it to try to get through to them,
Speaker 4: Like as a Christian, I have to think it is.
Speaker 3: But at a certain.
Speaker 4: Point you see some of these people and you go,
Speaker 4: they are too lost for us to gather back into
Speaker 4: the fold, Like we just have to destroy them. I mean,
Speaker 4: how do we deal with the population almost willfully engaged
Speaker 4: in this subjectivism that just completely eradicates any ability for
Speaker 4: us to connect to one another On the basis of
Speaker 4: anything other than our own selfish desires.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did a live stream this week on my channel,
Speaker 1: and I'll be doing a live stream right after this.
Speaker 2: People want to come to my channel after your show
Speaker 2: and check.
Speaker 1: Out a lot of these topics that we discuss pretty
Speaker 1: frequently on Jadier channel on YouTube. But I was talking
Speaker 1: about how well, you know, the scriptures often discuss characters
Speaker 1: called sons of ballial or sometimes translated as worthless persons.
Speaker 2: Now, that's not to say that people can't.
Speaker 1: Be saved if they're evil, because of course anybody can
Speaker 1: conceivably be saved. Even if you're Paul on the Road
Speaker 1: to Damascus, you're a very wicked person killing Christians, you
Speaker 1: can still convert. But the thing is that the more
Speaker 1: that you sink into evil, a lot of times it
Speaker 1: takes really intense things to repent. In other words, sometimes
Speaker 1: people have to have really serious illnesses, death of a
Speaker 1: family member, war times.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: A lot of those things are the strong medicine that
Speaker 1: we end up having to have to induce us to repentance,
Speaker 1: which shakes us out of that sort of narciss narcissus
Speaker 1: mirror staring that we have when we are not a
Speaker 1: believer in objective truth when we think that we are
Speaker 1: our own gods. And that was the temptation that Satan
Speaker 1: gave and the garden was that man would be his
Speaker 1: own god, he would determine right and wrong, he would
Speaker 1: determine reality, etc. All those are the things that Satan offers.
Speaker 1: And everybody born into this world who's born fallen necessarily
Speaker 1: grows up with that fallen perspective.
Speaker 2: That they are themselves their own little gods.
Speaker 1: And by God's grace, as you said, you know, some
Speaker 1: of us are brought out of that. Sometimes it takes,
Speaker 1: you know, really intense personal things to get us out
Speaker 1: of that. But ultimately, I think it's a case by
Speaker 1: case basis. If you're talking with somebody that you're trying
Speaker 1: to wake up and they're you know, excessively wicked, they're
Speaker 1: a Destiny type person, I would move on.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have anything to do with.
Speaker 1: In fact, people tried for years to get me to
Speaker 1: do debates with Destiny. Offered one time to do a
Speaker 1: theistic debate, and he would only do a political debate.
Speaker 1: I didn't think that was worth my time. And I
Speaker 1: had another friend that debated Destiny, and I warned that
Speaker 1: person that you know, he's not a good faith debate
Speaker 1: or you're just kind of I think it's a waste
Speaker 1: of time. And I think Destiny's really that was years ago.
Speaker 1: I think he's really shown his true colors. My psychological
Speaker 1: profiling assessment of Destiny was accurate. That he's not worth
Speaker 1: anyone's time. He's just really a son of Ballial. Again,
Speaker 1: he can repent, he can you know, God's grace can
Speaker 1: reach anybody. But that doesn't mean that you have to
Speaker 1: be a doormat and let.
Speaker 2: Wicked people walk all over you. That's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: That's more of a weird evangelical teaching. It's not the
Speaker 1: biblical teaching. It's not the teaching of historic Christianity. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's why I believe that there is and should be
Speaker 1: the death penalty. There should be by the state. It
Speaker 1: should be practiced for heinous crimes. You know, it's what
Speaker 1: paul A's out in Romans thirteen. So that I think
Speaker 1: would be a restoration of the notion of justice and
Speaker 1: society would do a lot to heal some of the
Speaker 1: ills in our system. But again, the system's also corrupt
Speaker 1: in a very vast systemic way. I'm not saying Trump's
Speaker 1: all evil or anything like that. I'm just saying, like
Speaker 1: the system itself, when it becomes systemically corrupt, it's it's
Speaker 1: difficult to turn things around, and sometimes it takes generations. Right,
Speaker 1: we might not turn this around, you know, for several decades.
Speaker 4: Well, it's about it's about interrupting that feedback loop, right
Speaker 4: because once once you reach that critical mass of corruption,
Speaker 4: it becomes okay, you have to be corrupt to even
Speaker 4: play the game. And so you know, obviously that's sort
Speaker 4: of where we're opening up the door to at a
Speaker 4: map yesterday of the you know, map of the world
Speaker 4: by in countries by corruption, and you can see it's
Speaker 4: you know, Western Europe, in America have so little corruption
Speaker 4: and in Australia, you know, basically anywhere the diaspora out
Speaker 4: of Europe goes you at very low levels of ruption.
Speaker 4: Everywhere else extremely high levels of ruption. You know it,
Speaker 4: if you go to Mexico, you're probably going to get
Speaker 4: pulled over, You're probably going to get shaken down for
Speaker 4: fifty to one hundred bucks by whatever cop can pull
Speaker 4: you over. And it's like man, once that practice gets symbedded,
Speaker 4: it's almost impossible to extricate. So we're really losing like
Speaker 4: two thousand years of like building up trust as a community.
Speaker 4: Is you know, incredibly rapidly is the u n you know,
Speaker 4: floods our country with people from you know, the third world?
Speaker 2: That?
Speaker 4: And again it's I'm not even saying it to like
Speaker 4: be offensive. Like if you talk to people from the
Speaker 4: third world, there will be video of a of a
Speaker 4: you know, Indian politician just handing out money as he
Speaker 4: drives through the town. And to us, that's like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, the symbol of corruption paying for votes, you know,
Speaker 4: just hey, I'm rich, so pay you vote for me.
Speaker 4: But he's not shy, he's not doing it clandestinely. It's like, no,
Speaker 4: I do this. And you talk people from third one
Speaker 4: and they're like, well, you gave me the most money,
Speaker 4: why wouldn't I vote for him?
Speaker 3: Like that's how things work.
Speaker 4: So like we're losing something really really fundamental here as
Speaker 4: we as we drift, you know, ever towards ever, towards
Speaker 4: the abyss, is it too late to stop it?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 4: How do we you know, intercede and halt this feedback
Speaker 4: loop and and then how do we reverse it?
Speaker 3: Is that possible?
Speaker 1: I think probably where I would differ with a lot
Speaker 1: of people is that I'm not saying politics doesn't matter
Speaker 1: and that you can't affect it, but it seems like
Speaker 1: to be politically effective it takes a significant amount of money,
Speaker 1: and unless you're in the one hundred million billion dollar class,
Speaker 1: as an individual, you're probably not going to be super effective.
Speaker 1: Not that you can't on an individual level, share the videos,
Speaker 1: get the word out, support you know, Alex by going
Speaker 1: to in for Wars or Alex store and all that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I tend to think that the best
Speaker 1: change happens when individuals themselves undergo change. Particularly I know,
Speaker 1: the Orthodox Church is definitely all about changing you as
Speaker 1: an individual and making you get on a path of improvement.
Speaker 1: So I think it's the real self improvement model, and
Speaker 1: that's the thing that for example, that's the real change,
Speaker 1: not that politics is irrelevant. The politics is a downstream
Speaker 1: I think from these issues. These issues are more fundamental because,
Speaker 1: for example, a lot of right wing leaders in the
Speaker 1: last few decades have turned out to be very morally corrupt,
Speaker 1: and so the right doesn't get anywhere because so many
Speaker 1: people or compromised and so forth. And I'm not saying
Speaker 1: we have to be saints and angels to be in
Speaker 1: politics or whatever.
Speaker 2: Nobody's nobody.
Speaker 1: But I mean if we can expect basic levels of
Speaker 1: like you know, just don't put things in your butt, don't,
Speaker 1: you know, little kids? Right, then like let's start there.
Speaker 1: For people that are going to be in public office,
Speaker 1: we have.
Speaker 3: The lowest and they still can't cross it.
Speaker 2: It's no I mean, a long story short, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: What all I'm trying to say is like the guys
Speaker 1: that I saw converting, for example, to Orthodox that were
Speaker 1: my good buddies back in say twenty seventeen eighteen, those
Speaker 1: guys are married, starting families. You know, they're moving in
Speaker 1: the right direction. If you're you know, twenty and you're
Speaker 1: an inceel and you're having rage and you are all
Speaker 1: upset about politics, you got to get your your own
Speaker 1: situation ironed out first. I think the Orthodox Church is
Speaker 1: very good at helping in that regard. And then beyond that,
Speaker 1: I think things like getting independent with your own monetary
Speaker 1: sovereignty through things bitcoin, you know, trying to get out
Speaker 1: of these cities, moved to the country home, studying, all
Speaker 1: those things are great, great pluses.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, not only are our politicians, you know,
Speaker 4: utterly corrupt, but there's also you sort of hinted at
Speaker 4: it before, there's this strain of Christianity, or at least
Speaker 4: there's an excuse that Christianity gives. I think a lot
Speaker 4: of our leaders where they go, hey, I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I can't we got to forgive these people. We can't
Speaker 4: be too harsh. There's there's like a weak strain of
Speaker 4: Christianity that I think is is sort of working in
Speaker 4: tandem with the corrupt to give them the excuse that, hey,
Speaker 4: we have to forgive and forget. That's not our place,
Speaker 4: and it's like, no, that kind of is our place.
Speaker 4: And this is you know, really injured back into the
Speaker 4: conversation or been a major topic of conversation since Charlie
Speaker 4: Kirk's murder and his wife saying that she forgave the killer,
Speaker 4: which I would think is Christians like, we are called
Speaker 4: to forgive people even that do horrible things to us.
Speaker 4: But you got a lot of people going, well, I
Speaker 4: don't forgive them, and even Trump going yeah, I still
Speaker 4: hate my enemies. How have you interpreted that whole conversation
Speaker 4: since since Charlie Kirk's memorial on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is really the influence of evangelicalism and Pietism,
Speaker 1: which I've tended to think that the state itself is
Speaker 1: an evil institution or an institution that.
Speaker 2: Is itself Antichrist.
Speaker 1: Do you have a history of Protestants and the Emagelicals
Speaker 1: identifying the papacy or even the state itself as Antichrist.
Speaker 1: Roger Williams, of course, the famous Baptist, was one of
Speaker 1: the first to actually said that there should be absolute separation,
Speaker 1: not just of church and state, but God from state.
Speaker 1: And I think that this is just really kind of
Speaker 1: getting further down the road as we go down the
Speaker 1: path of church history, severing not just a church and state,
Speaker 1: which actually the Byzantine model. For example, you have one
Speaker 1: bird with two heads. That's not a Masonic symbol Mason's
Speaker 1: appropriate to that. That's church and state working together with
Speaker 1: the same body. Because there are two powers, one directed
Speaker 1: towards the timboreal the state, the other directed towards the spiritual.
Speaker 1: But they kind of have to work together because God
Speaker 1: is God of also the secular realm, So there is
Speaker 1: no such thing really as a secular realm. There's just
Speaker 1: different domains and different provinces that have, for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: even back to the Enlightenment and the Reformation, et cetera,
Speaker 1: completely divorced the idea of the divine and the transcendent
Speaker 1: from government and from society. Oh, that's your personal private stuff.
Speaker 1: Nothing like that. In the history of Christianity, first thousand
Speaker 1: years of Christianity is Christian emperors and Christian kings.
Speaker 3: Everywhere, kingdoms, it seems like this.
Speaker 2: So this is a very modern thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's almost a scam that our churches are
Speaker 4: buying into because the government doesn't have to come in,
Speaker 4: and so you stay out of our business.
Speaker 3: Churches themselves go whoa, whoa.
Speaker 4: We want nothing to do with that, and it's like, well,
Speaker 4: why do you think you're losing so bad? Obviously, we'll
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Speaker 3: Have you seen the video, Jay, of this?
Speaker 4: Uh it's a Jewish service, I guess it's Rashashana and
Speaker 4: they're talking about how human sacrifice is still a thing.
Speaker 3: Have you seen?
Speaker 4: This has gone viral today, so I want to watch it.
Speaker 4: I want to get your take on it, if you
Speaker 4: don't mind.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm familiar with the trends and traditions of
Speaker 1: certain sects and groups within Judaism and the Sabatians and
Speaker 1: others to think that sometimes these things can be done
Speaker 1: for magical ritual purposes, but I'm not familiar with the
Speaker 1: specific video.
Speaker 4: All right, I want I want to go this vid
Speaker 4: because it's you know, it's at some big, big templar
Speaker 4: or synagogue somewhere, and it's just it's just kind of
Speaker 4: bizarre and it's got a lot of people wondering, like,
Speaker 4: what is this woman talking about? What is the what
Speaker 4: is the spiritual background of this? And I just want
Speaker 4: to get your interpretation of it, and yeah, this is
Speaker 4: this in no way obviously condemns all Jews in any
Speaker 4: way at all. In the same way, if I saw
Speaker 4: a church service with a pastor saying something creepy about
Speaker 4: how we have to have human sacrifice, well let's watch
Speaker 4: it and get and get Jay's analysis. On the other side.
Speaker 4: You'll see a clip and then it the audience, the
Speaker 4: radio audience will hear, you know, the audio go down.
Speaker 4: Whoever edited this put little title cards in the middle
Speaker 4: where they just sort of put their own comments. We
Speaker 4: can ignore those, and as far as I know, this
Speaker 4: video is legit. And I'm I'm just I need some
Speaker 4: spiritual advice on exactly what's happening here. Let's go to
Speaker 4: clip number eighteen. This was filmed over Rashashana this year.
Speaker 3: Let's watch.
Speaker 5: The greatest lie humanity tells itself is that we have
Speaker 5: outgrown human sacrifice. We call it by different names now
Speaker 5: and make our offering two different gods. We offer young
Speaker 5: men we call soldiers, as if the designation means that
Speaker 5: their mothers.
Speaker 3: Cry less when they die.
Speaker 5: We call masses of humanity collateral damage, and turn our
Speaker 5: eyes away from the pictures of their lifeless bodies as
Speaker 5: we sip our morning coffee. And the truth is, we
Speaker 5: don't do it because we are heartless. We do it
Speaker 5: because we believe that it is necessary for the world
Speaker 5: to keep running. We do it because we believe that
Speaker 5: the gods whose favor we so desperately seek freedom, security, prosperity, flourishing,
Speaker 5: that they demand blood as the price of their favor.
Speaker 5: We do it because we cannot see any other choice.
Speaker 5: And maybe that's why we read the ake Dah the
Speaker 5: Binding of Isaac on Russiashana, because the story of the
Speaker 5: Aqda isn't about inconceivable obedience. When Abraham prepares to sacrifice Isaac,
Speaker 5: he is just accepting the same bargain of blood. We
Speaker 5: still accept today that some need to die for the
Speaker 5: world to flourish.
Speaker 4: All right, So there's the video again. I just I
Speaker 4: don't know interpreting that sort of in my most charitable way.
Speaker 4: It's about kind of trying to come to terms with
Speaker 4: sort of the the inevitability of war and just the
Speaker 4: whoors that they see and trying to sort of interpret
Speaker 4: it in a in a biblical mindset. But I mean,
Speaker 4: just what's your takeaway from from watching that?
Speaker 1: Well, I guess would be that's probably some form of
Speaker 1: reform Judaism, given the fact that the woman is doing
Speaker 1: the readings. I'm not sure it could be a conservative
Speaker 1: perhaps even orthodox Judaism. And I think that what they're
Speaker 1: getting at is not that Judaism does this intentionally.
Speaker 2: On end mass to say sacrifice to deities.
Speaker 1: I think she's saying, like as a lot of leftists
Speaker 1: do in most reformed Judaism, or any synagogue that has
Speaker 1: a woman sort of doing that would be more liberal minded.
Speaker 1: I think what they're saying is like, we still have
Speaker 1: human sacrifice today. It's done to gods that we call
Speaker 1: safety and security. I don't think she's saying that Judaism
Speaker 1: in mass practices human sacrifice, even though there are sex
Speaker 1: within extreme versions of Rabbinic Judaism that have seemed to
Speaker 1: accept it and do it. You read about this in
Speaker 1: the Book of Jeremiah, for example, when some of the
Speaker 1: Jews fall into this practice. So there are history, there
Speaker 1: is historical precedent for Sabatin Francas or groups within Judaism
Speaker 1: that do this. But i'd my first initial take on
Speaker 1: that is not that she was saying that we ought
Speaker 1: to do this and this is a good thing. She's
Speaker 1: saying that the world today thinks that we've advanced beyond
Speaker 1: human sacrifices, but we in fact still do it. It's
Speaker 1: just not to gods that we believe our personal deities.
Speaker 1: But it's two things like war.
Speaker 3: Okay, that that that does make sense.
Speaker 4: I guess it's kind of like, you know, Christian saying, yeah,
Speaker 4: we still practice U and sacrifice a look good planned parenthood,
Speaker 4: that kind that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Exactly, although Judaism typically doesn't believe that abortion is bad.
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, but having a having a woman at the front, obviously,
Speaker 4: I would think means they're not exactly traditional in a sense,
Speaker 4: and it does.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say that's that's got to be reform
Speaker 1: or Conservative Judaism, which is open. I think both of
Speaker 1: them have maybe Conservative doesn't have women rabbis, but they
Speaker 1: would let them speak.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's one of those two.
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just thought, and you know, maybe the
Speaker 4: way it's edited cuts out some context or something, but
Speaker 4: obviously that that clip's been been going viral, and on
Speaker 4: the face of it, it seems like kind of a disturbing message.
Speaker 4: But I do think that your your interpretation is probably
Speaker 4: more accurate, and I think that the more I listen
Speaker 4: to it, the more I'm like, Okay, I think I
Speaker 4: get where she's coming from. But it's also weird. That
Speaker 4: sounds like she said gods. But maybe you're right that
Speaker 4: she's referencing these things.
Speaker 1: I think she's saying, like we worship the gods like money, security, etc.
Speaker 1: But also, you know the story of Isaac that she's
Speaker 1: talking about. A lot of atheists and people misinterpret that
Speaker 1: the purpose of the passage is an anti human sacrifice message.
Speaker 1: Yahweh is the deity that is not going to require
Speaker 1: human sacrifices. And in fact, even the sacrifice of Christ,
Speaker 1: the son of God, willingly taken on humanity and dying
Speaker 1: willingly isn't a human sacrifice that pacifies divine vengeance or
Speaker 1: something like that. That's more of a pagan reading in that sense.
Speaker 1: It's an end to the power of death, which we
Speaker 1: believe is an unnatural power that Christ did as an
Speaker 1: act of love, So far from it being one divine
Speaker 1: person paying off an angry divine person in some sort
Speaker 1: of zeus pagan.
Speaker 2: Type of transaction.
Speaker 1: Orthodox Christianity and the Christianity the first thousand years has
Speaker 1: always interpreted this as an action of love that's intended
Speaker 1: to actually destroy the power of death and give us
Speaker 1: victory over death.
Speaker 4: Well, and there's a difference between sacrificing yourself and sacrificing
Speaker 4: somebody else, right, That I think is what sort of
Speaker 4: disturbed me about is framing people who have been killed
Speaker 4: in war as a sacrifice by the people who killed them.
Speaker 4: And it's like, you don't have a right to sacrifice
Speaker 4: somebody else's life in the same way, you know, But
Speaker 4: even you know, for the people that worshiped Molock, at
Speaker 4: least it was their kid they're giving ostensibly. As horrifying
Speaker 4: as that is, that's still a form of personal sacrifice.
Speaker 4: But you know, just killing an enemy, I think portraying
Speaker 4: that as sacrifice is a little bit, a little bit,
Speaker 4: a little bit of an odd perspective.
Speaker 3: But anyway, I know that video has been going viral
Speaker 3: and I didn't.
Speaker 4: Play it to be like see Jews sacrifice you I
Speaker 4: don't believe that, But it's just I've been seeing people
Speaker 4: interpret it that way. And I don't think that's the
Speaker 4: way it was meant to be interpreted. But I still
Speaker 4: think it represents sort of a something that I wouldn't
Speaker 4: when she says God's I think your interpretation's right. But
Speaker 4: originally I heard it, and it's like, okay, if you
Speaker 4: define Jews as one thing, it's the fact they believe
Speaker 4: in one God. It's kind of what they're all about. Actually,
Speaker 4: it's kind of what made him, you know, totally different
Speaker 4: than everybody else around them in ancient times. So it
Speaker 4: was weird to me that she kept referencing gods. But
Speaker 4: maybe you're right, she's refrescing just these things we almost
Speaker 4: treat as gods.
Speaker 2: I'd say, yeah, well, I.
Speaker 1: Mean you'll get as many Jews as you talk to,
Speaker 1: that's as many Judaisms as you'll get. So I mean,
Speaker 1: and I mean, Judaism is an interesting The way it
Speaker 1: functions is basically like you don't really question what the
Speaker 1: rabbi says. So if your rabbi says this, and then
Speaker 1: there's three rabbis down the road that contradict him, you
Speaker 1: just go with your what your rabbi says, so you're
Speaker 1: not really it's not really a religion predicated on this
Speaker 1: the same ideas of we that we think of in
Speaker 1: terms of like objective truth, and everybody can be wrong,
Speaker 1: but this position is correct. It's a lot more, I
Speaker 1: guess you could say it's dependent upon not just the
Speaker 1: rabbinical structure, but it's more so focused at worshiping the
Speaker 1: idea of Judaism or the race of the people itself.
Speaker 1: Particularly when we get to modern Zionism, that's a lot
Speaker 1: more of an atheistic, socialistic type of movement.
Speaker 2: And Moses has basically.
Speaker 1: Says that it's kind of a worship of the nation
Speaker 1: state itself, that's the real deity in terms of Zionism.
Speaker 4: Right well, and on that note, you know that's obviously
Speaker 4: another giant topic of conversation right now.
Speaker 3: Soar from New York Post today.
Speaker 4: Gen Z's casual anti semitism is growing seated by influencers
Speaker 4: like Tucker Carlson. There's a video from earlier today, or
Speaker 4: at least it was, you know, went viral earlier today.
Speaker 4: I think it was maybe from a thing yesterday, clip
Speaker 4: forty seven. Here this is the ADL CEO Jonathan Greenblatt
Speaker 4: talking about the rise of anti Semitism, and I want
Speaker 4: to get your your take on this, not even necessarily
Speaker 4: a spiritual take, but just the geopolitical take of this,
Speaker 4: because I don't know what Israel's going to do at
Speaker 4: this point. We've got, you know, maybe we'll just play
Speaker 4: some of these as as beruls, so we don't waste
Speaker 4: your time going to these videos. But you know, Jonathan
Speaker 4: Greenblatt was bemoaning the fact that they say half the
Speaker 4: people in the world now are any Semitic, and the
Speaker 4: children are even more anti Semitic than that. And then
Speaker 4: net Yat who's giving a speech to the UN and
Speaker 4: everybody standing up and walking out. That's clip twenty four
Speaker 4: if we want to play that as b rol. It
Speaker 4: seems like Israel is losing all of its you know,
Speaker 4: adherents or supporters around the world. Seems like they've got
Speaker 4: the American Congress pretty locked down, but the American people
Speaker 4: are sort of slipping through their grip. And obviously Europe
Speaker 4: is starting to recognize Palestine as a state and they've
Speaker 4: cut off weapons transfers to them. How does this tie
Speaker 4: into maybe some of the end time prophecies the world
Speaker 4: turning against Israel? And then geopolitically, how do you think
Speaker 4: they're going to deal with this. I mean, it seems
Speaker 4: like they are on a downward slope in terms of
Speaker 4: anti Semitism, and nothing they're trying is reversing that trend.
Speaker 3: What do you think comes next?
Speaker 1: Well, I don't necessarily know that it relates to the
Speaker 1: end times. I mean, it certainly could. But you know,
Speaker 1: when you get into again the.
Speaker 2: Way that a lot of.
Speaker 1: Israel functions in the modern world, it's it's it has
Speaker 1: a lot of parallels with kind of an organized crime structure.
Speaker 1: So they have a kind of an organized crime government,
Speaker 1: and you could say you have net Yahoo kind of
Speaker 1: heading up or a very important player in that. That's
Speaker 1: why Israel has a tendency to protect a lot of
Speaker 1: international criminals. And I'm speaking there at the government level,
Speaker 1: but I think amongst the population there, I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: quite a bit of diversity, and there are quite a
Speaker 1: few other people groups in Israel, for example, the so
Speaker 1: it's not one size fits all, all collective thing. For example,
Speaker 1: the third largest landowner in Israel is the Orthodox Church.
Speaker 1: People don't know that, but it's the third largest lander
Speaker 1: and I'm sure that the Israeli government hates that and
Speaker 1: probably wants to get rid of all of the you know.
Speaker 2: The churches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, they're taking churches and turning Christian quarters that
Speaker 1: are historic districts into you know, gay bars and gay areas.
Speaker 1: So what does that tell you? I mean, I think
Speaker 1: that there's so many layers of this. First of all,
Speaker 1: as Victor Ostrowski says, the former Masaud writer, he gave
Speaker 1: a lecture that's still on YouTube, and he says that
Speaker 1: the anti Semitism card is a card that's been played forever.
Speaker 1: You know, it's you just roll that out, throw throw
Speaker 1: that card down, just like when the left calls everybody
Speaker 1: racist and hitler. And the problem is that that's not
Speaker 1: working anymore because people, you know, you can kind of
Speaker 1: use that up and it eventually loses its effect. Uh,
Speaker 1: And so people don't really care about being called anti
Speaker 1: Semitic anymore. And also people are figuring out that it's
Speaker 1: it doesn't really consistently apply.
Speaker 2: You know. It's like, well, if you read Genesis.
Speaker 1: Arabs or I guess you could say Muslims or you know,
Speaker 1: hagar writes or Hagarens, as the traditional Christian description calls them,
Speaker 1: they are also Semitic peoples. So why is it that
Speaker 1: we get this sort of you know, group of people,
Speaker 1: many of whom are actual much later Kazari and converts.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying everybody. I know that there's Mizrahi, and
Speaker 1: there's Sephardic, and there's Ashkenazi, and I'm aware of all that,
Speaker 1: but obviously quite a few people are converts, and so
Speaker 1: they're not technically.
Speaker 2: Speaking Semitic people.
Speaker 1: So it's just sort of like laying claim to the
Speaker 1: title of shim or Semite as if no one else
Speaker 1: is of that genetic lineage. But then it can kind
Speaker 1: of flip between a genetic description of a people group
Speaker 1: and then flip over to a religious description so whenever
Speaker 1: it needs. So it's kind of a morphous in that way.
Speaker 1: But people i think are learning that if you look
Speaker 1: at really serious rabbinic Judaism, I'm not saying every person
Speaker 1: is bad, but the religion itself is very superstitious. It's
Speaker 1: very cult like. If you look at the way that
Speaker 1: you know, the Jewish areas function, where they will get
Speaker 1: around the Sabbath rule by putting up a string around
Speaker 1: the neighborhood so that you walk around inside on the
Speaker 1: Sabbath even though or outside. But there's a string around
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. So and there's all these sorts of like
Speaker 1: tricks to trick God within actual rabbinic Judaism.
Speaker 2: And the Internet is kind of making this.
Speaker 1: Easily accessible and well known when probably, you know, fifty
Speaker 1: sixty years ago, people didn't really know that unless they
Speaker 1: studied religion or went you know, into the Jewish district
Speaker 1: or whatever in New York and saw at first hand.
Speaker 1: So people are figuring out that a lot of what
Speaker 1: they're told, especially say evangelical dispensationalists, so called Christians in America.
Speaker 2: That's all a hijacked thing that was.
Speaker 1: Bought off and influenced by foreign lobby groups decades ago.
Speaker 1: And that isn't Christianity. It's nothing to do with historic Christianity.
Speaker 1: It's a sect and it promotes and is there to
Speaker 1: foist geopolitical ideas upon dumb Bible belt people. But that
Speaker 1: stranglehold is starting to break. So that's why people are
Speaker 1: not caring about being called anti Semitic. The card has
Speaker 1: been used too many times. And also Israel is brazenly
Speaker 1: acting according to Talmudic principles by trying to get rid
Speaker 1: of all the Palestinians and calling everyone amlek ameleik is
Speaker 1: the Old Testament enemy of Israel, who when the Jews
Speaker 1: were traveling, the Amelek killed the people who were at
Speaker 1: the back, like the women and the children. And so
Speaker 1: amlek is then a perpetual term for anyone who is
Speaker 1: an opponent of Israel or a design a state in
Speaker 1: this case, and so they're all called amlek, and thus
Speaker 1: they're able to be eradicated. And I think Netanya who
Speaker 1: made reference to this right before there was the movements
Speaker 1: in terms of getting rid of the people in Gaza
Speaker 1: of a year or two ago whenever that was Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so that that all plays into what is going
Speaker 1: on here. And then you have actual people who are
Speaker 1: going too far to there and then thinking that they
Speaker 1: have been a right to hate all Jewish people or
Speaker 1: to hate an entire group of people, which is not correct.
Speaker 1: And both of these things can be true. You can
Speaker 1: have a religion that is false, that is like a cult.
Speaker 1: And at the same time, as Christians, we're not allowed
Speaker 1: to hate these people. We have to love and hope
Speaker 1: for repentance and salvation, as Paul talks about in Romans
Speaker 1: nine through eleven.
Speaker 4: For Jews as well, yeah, absolutely, Yeah, And what I
Speaker 4: was going to say is that, yeah, I believe the
Speaker 4: statement from nannyahoo Are calling his enemies Amelek was like
Speaker 4: used as evidence in his trial for genocide, going, look,
Speaker 4: this is what this means, because that's you know, the
Speaker 4: how the Bible uses or you know, refers to Amelek
Speaker 4: destroy them, all of them, you know, men, women, and child,
Speaker 4: and you know the reason why these things used to work.
Speaker 4: They don't work as well now. But for the most part,
Speaker 4: especially American people, we're actually genuinely good people. We don't
Speaker 4: want to be mean, we don't want to be, you know,
Speaker 4: enemies of anybody. So when you're told something is racist,
Speaker 4: most people really genuinely go, oh gee, well I don't
Speaker 4: want to be racist. I better avoid that. I'm not
Speaker 4: anti Semitic, I would you know, I don't hate the Jews.
Speaker 4: I better not say that right now. But then it
Speaker 4: gets used so much, and it gets used. I've got
Speaker 4: videos today the head of the Massad saying, you know,
Speaker 4: talk about Jeffrey Epstein being a part of Masad makes
Speaker 4: you anti Semitic. And it's like you say that enough
Speaker 4: and people stop taking it seriously or they embrace it.
Speaker 4: And they go, you're gonna keep calling me to asom
Speaker 4: I guess I am an anti Semite, And I of
Speaker 4: course think that's just you're just letting your mind be
Speaker 4: controlled again by really the same forces. It's just you're
Speaker 4: allowing it to control the opposite way than people who
Speaker 4: you know, really are scared of that, of that term
Speaker 4: and shy away from it. But we have to be
Speaker 4: able to talk about this, and I think that's the
Speaker 4: big issue and why I sort of almost have a
Speaker 4: responsibility to talk about it because we can't.
Speaker 3: We're not going to come to any solutions.
Speaker 4: And it's obviously not good for anybody, least of all
Speaker 4: the Jews when you know they're you know, anti Semitism
Speaker 4: is being used to protect the Jeffrey Epstein pedophile connections.
Speaker 4: Like we have to be able to talk about this openly,
Speaker 4: we have to be able to see it with And
Speaker 4: I've always said, you know, I treat extremist Jews like
Speaker 4: I treat extremist Christians, Like, Yeah, every religion has people
Speaker 4: sort of on that far into the spectrum, and it's
Speaker 4: one of the peoples in that religion to go, hey,
Speaker 4: that's not us. I'm not Westboro Baptist Church. Okay, I
Speaker 4: want nothing to do with them. They can call themselves
Speaker 4: Christians all they want, but that ain't me all right,
Speaker 4: And drawing that distinction I think is important. And again,
Speaker 4: obviously this conversation is a difficult one and it's one
Speaker 4: that really doesn't happen around the country. How do you
Speaker 4: think we have this conversation in a way that is
Speaker 4: productive and is not reductive and is not in with
Speaker 4: people going you're gonna call me an as might I
Speaker 4: guess I am now, because again I don't think that's
Speaker 4: that's valuable or helpful at all.
Speaker 1: Well, the problem is this is a nuanced discussion, and
Speaker 1: a lot of people just do to everybody kind of
Speaker 1: being dumbed down, don't want to be nuanced. And I
Speaker 1: think a lot of people also want people to be radicalized,
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of advantage that can be had
Speaker 1: through radicalizing people. And so the more radical people become
Speaker 1: in these positions or in these attitudes, then you get
Speaker 1: justification for the reactions.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So it's a kind of a problem reaction solution situation
Speaker 1: to where the more people begin to, you know, think that, oh, well,
Speaker 1: if I'm going to criticize Israel or not Y'ah here
Speaker 1: or whatever, and then I get called anti Semitic.
Speaker 2: Then I guess I'll just be in seminical. I guess
Speaker 2: I'll like Hitler now, right.
Speaker 1: So it just sort of pushes people into these extremes,
Speaker 1: and then that extreme can be exploited and can be
Speaker 1: capitalized upon. And ironically, the more people adopt the Hilarian perspective,
Speaker 1: the more people in Israel will then feel justified in
Speaker 1: their counter reaction to that. So it's a problem reaction
Speaker 1: dialectic that necessitates one another. And you know, it's the
Speaker 1: same when people ask and try to get me arguing
Speaker 1: about the issue between Oh, it's so, who do you
Speaker 1: like Palestinians and Hamas or do you like, you know,
Speaker 1: Zionism and Yahoo. And I'm like, well, you don't think
Speaker 1: I can from a real, sincere nuanced position criticize both
Speaker 1: of these positions and say that I'm.
Speaker 2: Not really into either one.
Speaker 1: And I would have a long time ago, maybe ten
Speaker 1: years ago, probably been more on the side of the
Speaker 1: the Hamas side of things, not because I am pro Homasra,
Speaker 1: but I was ignorant of Islam. And it took me
Speaker 1: the last seven years of debating a lot of the
Speaker 1: top Muslims and studying Islam pretty in depth. Right now
Speaker 1: on my channel, we're lecturing through an FBI consultant's book
Speaker 1: on al Qaeda. And you know, and I'm not saying
Speaker 1: I don't believe the nine to eleven, you know, conspiracy narrative.
Speaker 2: I do. I think it was a conspiracy. But that
Speaker 2: doesn't make it.
Speaker 1: Even if Islam and Islamic radicals who happen to be
Speaker 1: CIA proxy soldiers like ka, even if they're the ones
Speaker 1: that are sort of the front group and they're Muslims,
Speaker 1: like that doesn't make Islam good, am My, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like if I'm an orthodoxtrician, I
Speaker 1: have a long pedigree of opposing both Rabbinic Judaism and Islam.
Speaker 2: They're both wrong.
Speaker 1: But these dialectics entrap so many people, and unfortunately there's
Speaker 1: just no way to.
Speaker 2: Talk about this topic without being nuanced.
Speaker 1: But most people don't want to be nuanced, and most
Speaker 1: people in the power structure in these different systems want
Speaker 1: people to be radicalized and not nuanced.
Speaker 2: And a lot of these people don't even care that
Speaker 2: you're going to.
Speaker 4: Be nuanced, right, right, And they're just going to assert
Speaker 4: things regardless, and yeah, the false dichotomy kills me. It's
Speaker 4: it's you know, I had somebody I said something good
Speaker 4: about Charlie Kirk, obviously because he was a great man.
Speaker 4: And you know, I had somebody who generally agrees with
Speaker 4: me on the topic of Israel.
Speaker 3: Go, oh, but he was a pro Zionist. How can
Speaker 3: you be sad for him?
Speaker 4: And it's like, you think that's how I see the
Speaker 4: world through that dialectic, through that dichotomy. Either you're you know,
Speaker 4: a Zionist and deserve death, or you're an anti Zionist
Speaker 4: and I'm on you. It's like, no, no, no, I
Speaker 4: can have I can pick my own side, thank you
Speaker 4: very much. And it's the American Christian side, And yeah,
Speaker 4: I got I got problems with both as well. Again,
Speaker 4: it's it's sort of a difficult to discussion happening. It's like,
Speaker 4: we have to have this discussion. We have to recognize that,
Speaker 4: like you, Christianity and Judaism are in fact two different religions.
Speaker 4: I don't know why people can't don't see they're recognize.
Speaker 3: That, but it's true, and you know, you got to
Speaker 3: you gotta deal.
Speaker 1: With it, just like Islam and Christianity are also too
Speaker 1: irresolvably different religions. I mean, first of all, Christianity teaches
Speaker 1: number one to Trinity and the Deed of Christ. That
Speaker 1: right away tells you that the deity of Islam and
Speaker 1: Judaism are different. Right And by the way, Islam and
Speaker 1: Judaism do not believe that Christians have the same deity.
Speaker 1: So those two religions do not believe there is a
Speaker 1: Judeo Christian or Islamo Christian parallel synthetic thing that we
Speaker 1: could could erect.
Speaker 4: But they're trying to merge them. We all have a
Speaker 4: minute left. This is like the biggest topic in the world.
Speaker 4: But they're trying to merge these right there. You know,
Speaker 4: the part of the New World Order is to combine
Speaker 4: all three Abrahamic face.
Speaker 3: How close do you think they are to that goal.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a challenge to get people on board with that.
Speaker 1: And you know, the more that all the foundations think
Speaker 1: takes and the power leads push the ecumenist New World
Speaker 1: Religion agenda. You know, they they put a lot of
Speaker 1: money into it. They build the Abrahamic Faith Center in
Speaker 1: Abu Dhabi, and they get the Pope on board and
Speaker 1: he comes and blesses it, and I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: it's difficult to get and I'm just going to be
Speaker 1: frank here with a lot of say Muslims, you have
Speaker 1: a lot of people who believe Islam in countries where
Speaker 1: the IQ is around eighty uh so you're you're not
Speaker 1: going to get a lot of nuance out of people
Speaker 1: with ad i Q and places like Pakistan and Somalia,
Speaker 1: and so you know, it's a challenge to get everybody
Speaker 1: on board with a new age religion in a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways. And there are a lot of Muslims are.
Speaker 4: Our structure that they that they you know, as long
Speaker 4: as the you know, the Saudi Arabian clerics are down
Speaker 4: with it, then everybody downstream will be.
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