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Speaker 1: Want to make some money. That's what the show is

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all about. You're watching the best betting show ever. Myself,

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Joe and Airey and Art de Caesar, we got actionable information.

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It's Wednesday. On today's show, we're gonna tell you what's

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going on over at the Westgates Sportsbook where all the

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bets are Chargers line moving, Green Bay line moving, many

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lines moving. We're gonna find out why. We're gonna give you, guys,

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the parlay of the day. I lost the parlay of

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the day for the team yesterday, fade or not. There

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are six zero to three teams in the NFL. Do

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we bet on them? Do we bet against them? Joe

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and I will give you an NFL best bet and

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a college football best bet, the MLB Rundown or the

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Jay's Gonna screw it Up? And of course our mail

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bag section. Guys, let's go hit the like button, subscribe

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to our channel. Art Look look at Joe. Look out,

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handsome Joe is looking right now. Use this as your

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Speaker 2: No, no, I do not press, but thank you very much.

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I'm sure I'd get a ton of dates with you

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and my tender profile. Sure that did work well?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I should we check out Joe's tender profile?

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Speaker 2: Please do? Yeah, please do? What is this twenty fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: Stop it?

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Speaker 1: Oh? Sorry, your grinder profile? So how are you picking

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up women these days? Joveniary?

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Speaker 2: Who has time press? I'm here with you for sixteen

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hours a day, so or at least it feels like

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that during this hour.

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Speaker 1: So fair enough, okay, But any ladies out there, Joveniary

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is single? Uh and he does stand at a supermarket like.

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Speaker 2: This and just wait, so that is true? None of it?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 2: Art?

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Speaker 1: What's going on over at the Westgate bro?

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Speaker 3: Not much? Man? This is you know, we start, not

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that we don't see stuff earlier than we we do,

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but we start to really define in some of these games.

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You know, you look at a couple of these NFL games.

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I think it's a bad game because it's you know,

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two zero to three teams. But Titans Texans, where the

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Texans have pretty much been seven, haven't moved off that

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despite the Texans being ozer and three and not being

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a good team. Right now, we'll need the Titans in

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the game. They're gonna bet the Texans, They're gonna put

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them in Parlays money line. They're gonna put them in teasers,

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so we'll be fighting that Texan money basically all week.

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The local game that's seen a little bit of a

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downgrade with the Raiders. That was a look ahead line

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of Raiders minus two and a half. Now it's minus one.

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I think you got a little bit of a bump

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from what the Bears did last week. So there's some

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love there where they're saying, Okay, maybe the Bears have

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kind of figured it out. Caleb look great. Probably more

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about what the Cowboys are. And then obviously one of

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the big games of the week Ravens Chiefs that basically

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was a look ahead line of three. We reopened it

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two and a half, got back up to three on it.

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Ravens are minus three. That's probably where the line should be.

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I'll be shocked if we get to three and a half.

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We'll probably be at three and kind of play with

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the juice on either side. But obviously the initial money

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on that two and a half came in for Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: And what else are you It's kind of funny early week.

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Tomorrow night, we've got a Thursday night game which doesn't

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seem to be moving an awful lot here, although in

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a lot of spots to look like Arizona might have

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been the slight favorite. Then maybe we thought Seattle would

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go the other way. But are you seeing quality two

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way action on that game? Both ways?

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Speaker 3: That has seemed pretty good two way action. I mean, obviously,

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when we talk about our Thursday game like we always

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do tomorrow, there will probably be more of a one

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side like hey, we're gonna need this side or that,

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or maybe a group comes in the morning and moves it.

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But right now it's been pretty steady on the two

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Speaker 1: The season joining us, I want to stay with NFL

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for a quick one of our listeners and we're going

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to get to some college football info shortly. One of

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our listeners wants to know. Let's have a Survivor discussion,

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they said, and I'd like to know just really quickly,

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your thoughts on Survivor going into this week. Just assume

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you have all teams available. Is only three weeks. And

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my wife took Buffalo and said, okay, I just want

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Speaker 2: I was originally.

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Speaker 1: Thinking, Houston, get it over withhold your nose and hope

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the two of you guys are saying, what are you

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mad Art. I'll go to you first. What jumps out

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at you, Survivor wise.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think you've said it all season, right, pres

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go against the Saints. You'll be fine. I think we

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all know Buffalo being a seventeen point favorite, that is

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going to be the number one team if you have

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not already used them. A lot of people did use

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them last week against Miami. I think if you have

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multiple selections, I think Houston's in play. I think unless

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you use green Bay last week and now you're out,

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maybe use green Bay this week. They'll be popular. It's

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a tricky spot. I know you and I don't like

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the spot for them, but you know people are gonna

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use the Chargers. They like to find the teams that

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are basically touchdown and more favorites. Those are going to

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be the popular teams. Now, if you have Survivor, you

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know you got five to ten survivors. You could spread

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it around and take some shots, but I think those

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are basically going to be your group of teams.

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Speaker 2: Joe, if you haven't used Buffalo yet, use them. I

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mean to me, it's it's survive and move on. At

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this early in the season, you do not want to

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be taking stupid chances at this point in week four

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the NFL season because you're worried about what's coming up.

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I mean, Buffalo schedule for the next until November is

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kind of piece of cake. And I know a lot

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of guys aren't used Buffalo. I think last week against

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Miami on that the early game. So if you haven't,

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now seems like a pretty decent time to consider Buffalo

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here and just advance. And because once we get to October,

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these teams are not the same that you are witnessing

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right now in September.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's an interesting theory, Joe, because you know,

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do you keep teams you try to sneak the Houston's

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through now and hold the big boys for later, or

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do you or do you use you know, or do

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you just try to get through week to week and

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recognize that hey, later Josh Allen might be injured. Later,

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you know, Baltimore might be out of the playoffs, and

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you know, feeling down on themselves. So it's an interesting

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Survivor question, and it's really why I suggest to all

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people playing Survivor to play two teams. One of those

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teams survive, the other team try to play that sort

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of long game. I'll likely I'm gonna tell you guys

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tomorrow what my survivor pick will be. I definitely will

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be using Houston in one of my picks, but I'll

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figure it out. I'll let you guys know tomorrow. Hit

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is Mike raffo Art, what's going on in college football?

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Speaker 3: Well, college we have a huge week with huge games.

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We'll touch on all three of them right here. I mean,

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probably the best game of the day Oregon at Penn

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State that and a look aheadline was Penn State six.

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Over the summer, we reopened it three and a half.

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We've seen Oregon money at three and a half. We're

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now three. The Bama Georgia game that over the summer

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was Georgia four. We reopened it three and it's been

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pretty steady with us on three. Seen really nice two

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way action on that game. Now both those games are

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going to see tremendous handle and a little bit under

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the radar game Auburn at A and M that over

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the summer was seven, and now we reopened it six

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and a half for a and m to be almost

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a touchdown favorite at home. So no real movement there yet.

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But I would say out of the three games, the

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team that has seen the most money is Oregon. Moved

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us off that three and a half. We kind of

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wanted to see sometimes when we are at of three

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three and a half, we don't mind taking a couple

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of bets see if someone we respect or a group

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we respect wants to take a position on a game.

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Because sometimes when you're at three, you just get the

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two way action and you're just booking the game. We

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kind of wanted to see, hey, what's the kind of

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perception out there on this game? And at the three

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and a half, the money was Oregon.

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Speaker 2: We've had a couple of interesting line moves so far.

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Art you mentioned yesterday on the show. One of the

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big movers, of course was that LSU Old Miss game.

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I mean, when you're going back now you're talking about

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this game, was LSU was considered a bigger favorite. They

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opened up a slight favorite, and we've seen nothing but

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Old Miss money coming in and now Old Miss is

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the thing. We saw a lot of Virginia money come

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in also against Florida State, which I think is ironic.

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I'm wondering where are the head fakes here? Are we

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expecting Old Miss and LSU maybe to reverse? Are we

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expecting everyone look bet Virginia now because we're gonna try

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to get under a touchdown and go Florida State closer

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to the game. What are you seeing right now with

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Speaker 3: You know, Joe, that LSU Old Miss game is interesting

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because when you're basically at one one and a half two,

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that could easily by kickoff flip back to LSU being

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minus one. I don't see you know that not happening.

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That could absolutely have because even when we were at

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Old Miss minus one minus one and a half, they

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were taking LSU at plus one oh five even money

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on the money line, so they were looking at that angle.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: The Florida State Virginia game is interesting because it's a

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Thursday game, so it's a short week game, home team,

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all that type of stuff. And they took Virginia over

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a touchdown. They took him at eight, they took them

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at seve onn and a half, we're at seven. I'm

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with you, I think that could be one of those

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pump fakes where they're trying to get the nooles under

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seven and then they will come in and steam roll

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that back up to a kickoff number, back to the

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original number seven and a half.

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Speaker 1: E ah, this information from you, artist Gold. Thanks for

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doing this, guys. Let's turn our attention too well. The

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par lay of the day, yesterday's parlay lost. Dude to

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this guy right here, it does happen. I had to

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hear about it all night last night. Yeah, so that's

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where we're at. I lost yesterday's parlay. We move on.

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I'm going to go whenever in doubt, whenever you need

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a win, you gotta go back to the teams you

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know best. Max Chers are on the mound, the Blue

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Jays plus one to eleven. This team has got mojo going.

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I know that they are. They screwed it up last night,

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but I'm telling you the vibe coming out of the

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dressing room, everybody is ready to go, and it was

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really the damn ups that stupid foul bawl call mock

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the whole game up. Let's move on. Leg one Toronto

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plus one eleven Joe.

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Speaker 2: Ooh is impressive and we're gonna see whether or not

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that actually comes to fruition. Here, I'm gonna go another way.

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I think it's put up a shut up time for

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Houston against the Athletics. Art. Now, the Athletics last night,

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Houston sends Hunter Brown to the mound tonight to go

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up against Severino, and Severino is the worst at that

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Sacramento ballpark. So I'll take a shot with Houston getting

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it done here tonight with their ace on a mound

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at a pretty decent prize. Art.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that one, Joe, That's one I definitely

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thought about. And you're right, this feels like the game

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of the year for Houston. They lose this, they will

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be done. I'm gonna go with my theme. I know

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they're still fighting and they're playing, but I thought they

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have lost last night. They celebrated a little last night.

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I know the division is still in play, but I'm

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gonna take the White Sox plus one and a half.

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I think they could win the game or keep it

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to a one run game like they did last night.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you flat out, Art, I'm prepared to

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lose this parlay for the Chicago White Sox to win tonight.

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So my priority right now is for Chicago to win.

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I am a Blue Jay fan, and the city is

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electric when one of our sports teams is in the

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hunt doesn't happen often. I'm really hoping it does now.

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And I'm going to the game on Saturday. Okay, Joe

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and his moaning this, let's get into a fade or not. Guys,

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yesterday we gave you all the three and OH teams

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and whether we should bet on or against those three

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and OH teams. I want to show you guys something

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before we get into the and this is created by

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Ralph Michaels and Ralph Michaels will be on wager Talk

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today another showover on the wager Talk TV network, and

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we'll be doing a deep dive. As you can see,

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three and O teams in their fourth game are twenty

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and twenty three against the spread, so betting three and

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O teams in their fourth game is a losing proposition. However,

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I'd like to turn your attention to row two, column

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one two, three or I six seven, eight, twenty seven,

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fifteen and three. This is a chart from twenty and fifteen.

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If you bet against, if you bet against, if you

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bet on oh and three teams, so you're betting on

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OH to three teams, you are sixty four point three

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percent against the spread twenty seven, fifteen and three. So

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with that said, Art, Joe would that is? Does that

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shock you that three and ohero teams are twenty and

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twenty three against the spread and OH and three twenty

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seven and fifteen? I would It doesn't shock me. It

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seems totally reasonable, Joe Art.

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Speaker 2: So as a Jet fan, do I root for the

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tie against the against the Dolphins? How in the hell

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they put that game on Monday night is beyond me? Art.

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How can't we fletch out even in week four and

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get those two bands of crap off the television screen?

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But I don't know what to do with those two

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on and three teams, But somebody has got to win

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that game, I guess. But the idea that a desperate

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and yes prays. I don't think it's zero percent chance

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being oh and three of making the playoffs, although it's

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very slim to none. But I can guarantee you oh

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and four you ain't ever making the playoffs again. So

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it doesn't shock me that oh and three teams do

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well against the spread because the market heart has probably

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stuck to forking them at this point. Ain't nobody looking

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to bet them, just fade them anyway.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and especially if it's an O and three team.

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Maybe you had good feelings about in the you know, preseason,

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and you thought, oh, this team might be all right.

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Now you're probably getting value on that team. And even

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president you said the three and oh teams, Well, those

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three and oh teams have probably been overvalued. Even if

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they're really good. Their numbers have been pushed up and

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they're fat and happy and they're three and oh. Maybe

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they're playing a bad team, and the league is it's

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just parody the league, right, I mean, they want all

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these teams to basically be ten and seven, nine and eight.

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That's what they want. So it doesn't shock me that

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those numbers are what they are.

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Speaker 1: Just to give you guys some statistics, it's two point

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eight percent that you flop a flush in Texas, hold them.

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It's two point five percent that an zero to three

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team makes the playoffs. New Orleans Saints aren't bet against.

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With that said, the line's not going to help us

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bet against this team, and it doesn't. This Sunday, I

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feel like New Orleans could lose every game this year,

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and I'm curious how many of those games are.

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Speaker 2: Going to cover.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I am not betting on them no

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matter what Joe.

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Speaker 2: The Saints, yeah god, no, oh no, they are absolutely

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a fade. And listen, I think there might be there

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might be a benefit it somewhere along the line for

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the Saints to continue to suck. Not that I think

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they have much of a choice, but why fight it? Right? Like,

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you know, recognize that you are terrible, purposeful in order

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to restart defranchise. So I don't know why you go

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against that art and hope that things get better because

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they won't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Art, You know this is a motto that Joe

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uses when picking up women. It's like, if you suck,

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lean in, Okay, Art, going go on? Now?

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Speaker 3: The Saints have been a faid all year. I think

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we all recognize how bad they are. I think if

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you're gonna start betting in seats, you might have to

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look for another angles. Maybe first quarters, first halfs do

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a lot of player props for the other team, like this,

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sprends might be so ridiculous you might not even have

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any value there. You might have to just find different angles.

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Speaker 2: Or just look for threesomes. That's what you do with

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the you know, the homely teams. You just, Joe, I'm

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just saying you look for a third team, But I

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don't know what you're talking about. I'm just saying threesomes

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is the way i'd look.

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Speaker 1: Especially with teams that suck. Correct Now that, now that

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I have packaged our metaphors, let's move on to the Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't know if this is a.

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Speaker 1: Fade team, Joe. Moving forward, you know, I think we're

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going to find some opportunities to be on this team.

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And I wouldn't be surprised if they cover seven this

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week against Houston. So I'm not vating this team. I

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think there's gonna be some moments where we could bet

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on them. What do you think?

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Speaker 2: I agree? I listen, the whole purpose of the Tennessee

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coaching staff this year is to bring along cam Ward,

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their future franchise quarterback. They have dealt with some injuries

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now on the defensive side of the ball, especially on

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that defensive front, But I think when healthy and you're right,

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pick your spots. This isn't a team that's gonna go

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winless all year. They will have an opportunity to win

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some games, but they will never unless I'm missing something on.

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They're never going to be a favorite that you got

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to go, Oh, no, I can't. I mean they're going

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to be a dog a lot, and there's gonna be

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some value at some point along the way here.

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Speaker 3: No, yeah, and I think you hit it. The whole

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season is about we are going to bring along our

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franchise quarterback. Unless he's injureds he's going to play every game.

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I'm sure he's gonna want to play and get better

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every week. I think there will be opportunities to take

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the Titans, especially in games like this, like you said present,

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where you're getting seven or you're getting over a field goal,

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you're getting some of the numbers. I think they're gonna

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be good spots.

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Speaker 1: Art, what were the odds that two people in the

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same division would wear capri pens on the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: Off the board?

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Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn and the New York Jets. I kick, I

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don't even I mean, honestly don't even know. Fade not fade.

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I mean, I'm looking to bet against this team, but

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I'm gonna tread carefully. Joe.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, the ironic part about this Jets team

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is that they could be two and one right now. Easily.

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They could easily be and we'd be having a totally

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different conversation contentually about what this Jet team is. So

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it was always going to be a work in prog

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The effort is there, they're just they're lacking on some

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of the execution. But they have the playmakers, whether it's

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Tyrod or Fields, there are gonna be opportunities to get

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behind this Jets team. They will win some games they're

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probably not supposed to. I think it all evens out,

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so I'm not They're not a pure fade for me.

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I think they're you got to look for the spots

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to back them here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that too. The one thing that

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worries about me with the Jets is their defense. The

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defense is really not that great right now, and I

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mean you guys said it. They lost on basically two

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walk off field goals, so they could be two and one.

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I think they'll play hard for Aaron Glenn. I don't

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think the quarterback matters. I said it last week. I

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think Taylor maybe is a better option than Fields, but

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I don't think there's really much of a difference. They

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got to fix fix that defense, especially the secondary. Secondary

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is really not that great, but there probably will be

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some spots down the road where the Jets maybe get

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it together and play spoiler.

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Speaker 1: I feel the same way about the Giants, Arte I think,

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especially with Jackson Dark coming in, I think this team

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is going to play spoiler. I wouldn't be surprised if

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they cover on Sunday. I think there's a chance they

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win the game outright on Sunday based on what a

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bad Spotless is for the Chargers, I am going to

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be looking for spots to bet on the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: Joe, I agree one hundred percent. Listen, the only reason

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they're really bringing him out week three. Don't forget. The

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whole plan with him was to stash him on the

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bench for a year, let him learn the game, let

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him get to the pro level. And that was why

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you brought in Winston, It's why you brought in Ross, right,

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So okay, but here we are now for three weeks

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and we're throwing them to the Wolves. And the only

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reason we're doing it is because obviously Dable and Joe

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showing the GM their asses on the line, so they

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got a hope that, yeah, maybe there's a spark here,

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and I think there will be judging just from the

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reaction that we watched in the preseason, from when he

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was at quarterback and when they were scoring points and

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touchdowns and they looked confident. You know, if these guys

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rally around Dart, then Art, We're not going to get

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them in a favorite role a lot. Again, we might

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very well be able to get some value with.

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Speaker 3: The Giants, well, no doubt. I think we all like

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their defense. Their pass rush is really good. They can

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get after the quarterback. I just hope they and this

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is a lifelong Giant fan talking, I hope they let

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Dart loose. I hope it's not. You know, let's just

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put the training wheels of a kid who cares. You're

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owing three. See what you have, go out there. I

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like them this week. I think it's a bad spot

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for the Chargers, and I think they will rally around

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the fact that Dart's gonna give them some energy. I

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just worry late in the season if they're like still

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two and eleven, like, are they gonna quit on Dable.

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I don't know if the locker room loves Dable, so

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I'd be a little worried about that.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Miami Dolphins it's basically this week or

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it's sober for the whole entire coaching staff and this team.

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From my perspective, and I like them this week, and

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I think that if you look at their schedule moving forward,

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and they can get through this week, they got the Panthers,

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they got the Browns, they got the Falcons, they could

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technically turn their season around. I'm looking to bet on

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them this Monday, but from a moving forward perspective, I

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actually need to see what they do this Monday.

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Speaker 2: Joe, they're not beating the Jets. They haven't beaten the

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Jets when they've had better teams. They're not beating the

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Jets this week either. And then I think it's all

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she wrote. Listen, you want to talk about dead man walking.

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That entire staff, that entire organization needs at the recent button,

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they all know it's a matter of time before Tyreek

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Hill gets traded because the more they lose, the more

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he's not involved, the worst it's gonna get. That locker

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room is a hot mess. It's filled with a bunch

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of guys that have never played in the They have

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no affiliation with the Dolphins organization outside of being here

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this year. There's no leadership. It's over before she wrote,

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at least culturally in the Jets side of the thing,

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they're building something there. There's nothing to there's nothing redeeming

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about what we're getting from the Miami Dolphins this season. Hark.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is fascinating from that standpoint, Joe, because it

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is one regime that's new in building and one regime

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that's going out the door. I kind of lean with you,

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pres I do like him this week. Now Listen, if

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they lost this week, I would never look at them again.

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I said it. I don't think the Jets secondary is

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that good right now. But the problem is to a

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can't push the ball down the field, even with those receivers.

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So I do like them as a you know, small

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home favorite this week. But man, it's hard to back

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Miami moving forward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel the same way about Houston guys.

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Speaker 2: C J.

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Speaker 1: Stroud just isn't turning out to be what we expected.

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And this is not a small sample size. He struggled

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most of last year as well. The team's obviously a

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film on him. They've obviously figured him out, and you know,

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they just lack weapons. Nico Collins great, but other than that,

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I don't know where they're going. Their defense is also

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not playing well. This Houston team feels like a fade

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team moving forward and a fade team on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Joe, the organization didn't do him any favors here by

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making the offensive line worse, if that's even possible, than

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they were a year ago. They can't run the ball.

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The mix and injury to start the year again was

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not great for them. But if you can't run the

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ball with a job and you can't take some of

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the pressure off of them, it's getting worse. And you

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can tell it's not because of a athletic you know situation,

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because he doesn't have the talent. It's because above the shoulders,

487
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you're losing this kid. He's actually playing his way out

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of a extension, or if that's even possible with the

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way it's started off, he's actually losing money every week

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here by looking like this and what is it, his

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second offensive coordinator now in three seasons. So it's a

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recipe for disaster for this kid. It's a fad for me.

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They're two one dimensional.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the offensive line is so bad. It just there's

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no way you could lay seven with them. I don't

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care that you know the Titans are owing three as well.

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I don't know. The line is so bad that I

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just think you have to fade them moving forward. Stroud,

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he's not what he thought we thought he was. And

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we do this with these quarterbacks. O Nicks. Oh great

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rookie year. Now let's put him in the Hall of Fame. Well,

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he's struggling. This happens with a lot of these early quarterbacks,

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and I absolutely happened with Stroud.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Art ten out of ten. Brother, love having you

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on the show. Spectacular work, like always have yourself a

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monster day, and we're gonna see you tomorrow Thursday's show.

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Art to Caesar. We're gonna take apart the Arizona Seattle game.

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Thanks for doing this, brother, Art to Caesar.

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Speaker 2: Everyone.

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Word of the day, microphone, just say that or Mike,

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that yellow thing. Cue the clock, let's get into it.

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And I like the Atlanta Falcons plus the one at home.

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It was minus two and a half, it was minus two,

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it was minus one and a half, and now Washington

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is minus one. A ton of money has come in

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on Atlanta, and I get it. It makes total sense

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to me. Why is everyone completely overreacting? The Green Bay

535
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Packers went to Cleveland last week and lost. Now they're

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a minus seven dollar favorite on the road in Dallas.

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Atlanta lost to Carolina. Now they're a home dog. I

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don't understand the overreaction on this Atlanta Falcons team. Firstly,

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we've got no Jaden Daniels on Washington. Secondly, this Atlanta

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team is not only two and one, but they played

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outstanding ball under my Michael Pennix Junior towards the end

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of last season. This Atlanta team is stacked, I mean

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loaded with talent offensively and defensively, they are. They sucked

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against Carolina, they were great the two games prior, and

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they have built that defense up. I think Atlanta has

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a better defense than Washington. I think Atlanta with Jada

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Daniels out, has a better offense than Washington. And I

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think they're playing at home. I love this play Atlanta,

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plus the one joe Ah wilds.

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Speaker 2: It's ugly, it's gross, it's disgusting. Hold your nose, but

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call me crazy. I'm a believer in the Jackson Dart era,

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and I believe this switch at quarterback is exactly what

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the Giants need to at least be somewhat competitive offensively.

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It's an early kick for the Chargers, who just played

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in a big division rivalry game, which again they squeaked

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it out here. It's not like they've been blowing teams

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out of the and while yes, you know Herbert's been great,

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gotta travel East short week. Giants have everything to play for,

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nothing to lose here, and I am sure they're gonna

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want to get behind their young quarterbacks, so I'll take

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the points there. Press.

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Speaker 1: I am with you on that, Joe, college football best bets.

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Let's go. I like Oregon or Oregon or Oregon plus

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three and a half, and I like them at three

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to two, Joe, and I wouldn't be surprised if they

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win this game. This is a strange one. You take

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a look at this Oregon Penn State game and this

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is just a classic case of one team being battle

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tested and ready looking like a dominant powerhouse, and another team, well,

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they've played no one. Let's start with Oregon. This team

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has looked like one of the best teams in the

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country in their last four d games. They are dominant,

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they are sharp, They have been blowing out decent teams.

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Their offensive line has given up one one sack all

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your their quarterback moor is playing like a Heisman candidate.

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And their defense they've given they haven't given up a

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single touchdown pass this season. As for Penn State, love

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bottom line, the South Alas has team played nobody. Their

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schedule has been embarrassingly easy, a complete cupcake tour, and

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even against weak teams. Their quarterback Alar has been misfiring.

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He's been looking shaky. He struggled against Fyu, he struggled

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against Villanova, on and on and on and on. Joe,

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I'll make the Seas take Oregon, Oregon, all right?

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Speaker 2: Like where you ahead with that one, Frez. I'm gonna

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throw total out for you here, and it's gonna involve

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USC traveling and take on Illinois, who just got their

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ass handed to him by Indiana giving up a ton

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of points here. This total opened up fifty nine and

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a half. It's starting to creep off sixty sixty and

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a half right now, and I think it's gonna continue

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to go high. There is no way, Jordan Maavin this

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offense with Lincoln Riley, if you think they're just because

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they're traveling east going to Illinois, that somehow this defense

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of Illinois, which just got embarrassed and shredded, is gonna

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stop them. You're out of your mind. Both teams will score,

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USC will score more likely, and I'm all about the

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over in that one.

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Speaker 1: Press Joe and are there are not three baseball games. Breathe,

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get ready, go all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Prez, let's do it to MLB Rundown. One game

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already done. Probably by the time you watch this, the

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Braves that we'll have beaten the Nationals, trust me. The

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Brewers taking on the Prodres Dylan Cees on the mount

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for the Padres, which Dylan Cees shows up for the Padres.

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I have no idea, but they blanked the Brewers last night.

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They won't like them again here tonight. I think the

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Brewers get it done. Meanwhile, the O's and the Rays

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with Wells and Boz. Boz has been a absolute dumpster fire.

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Was one of the hotter teams down to stretches here.

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I love Tyler Wells. I like them to win this game.

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The Tigers you want to talk about dumpster fire. My goodness,

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Flaherty is not saving them here against the Guardians today.

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Tanner Byby on the mound, he has been electric lately.

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I like the Guardians to continue to pull away the

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Reds while Skeens is who they gotta be today because

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they couldn't win yesterday. Hilarious. But the good news for

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the Reds they have Hunter Green on the mound. If

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I'm the Pirates, I let Paul Skeens go exactly two

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innings and then get his ass out of the game.

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The season is over. Let him rest up here. He's

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got a big career ahead of him. Meanwhile, the Phillies

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lost in extras to the Marlins. Ryan Weathers against Lozardo here.

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I like the under in this game. I don't think

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we get nearly as many runs. Oh Max freed on

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the mound against the White Sox. Stop its three dollars.

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Favorite stop it the Blue Jays and Red Sox. Pres

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likes the Jays. I like the Red Sox. In the

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first five the Twins in res Rangers refuse to win

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any more games. Who blames them? I'll back the Twins.

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While the Mets they should be able to get it

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done once again against the Cups because it comes have

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no interest in winning games anymore. The Royals will get

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it done with colling them out over the Angels. The

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Mariners might still be drunk from last night, but let's

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face it, they're gonna beat the Rockies, Diamondbacks continuing to

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roll like them. The roll again tonight against the Dodgers

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and the Giants. While they just suck Ray with scratched

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Cardinals will win that one, and so will the Astros. Finally, Pres,

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and that is your MLB rundown.

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Speaker 1: Great stuff, Joe, Wow, a lot of games. We're gonna

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be doing that for all of the NHL games as well,

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moving forward once that season starts. Joe Q the clock.

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That's getting into the mailback section of the show. David

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Takarski rights, the book killed it last week? Why did

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Art say they did? Okay, David, Art is coming on

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here and telling us the truth. I don't know what

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kind of connection you have. I'm guessing that you don't

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know how the Westgate did any better than Art knows,

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given that he works there. Art is telling the truth. Joe,

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I want to talk about our customer service team. Neil

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Those pres haven't heard it for a while, but you

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must give a shout out to the customer service team.

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Those folks are outstanding. If you could pick winners at

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of the way we treat people and how fast we

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If you've never worked with our customer service team before,

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on our end too all the time, right, I mean,

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that for a while. By the way, they've always been

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on top of their game. And yeah, there's no running,

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there's no hiding there. If you have a question, you

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have an issue, it gets addressed right away. We all

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move on. We're adults after all.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so massive shout out to our customer service team.

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And I will end with Blake Pearson's comment, Prez sounds

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like an old Jewish women who smokes two packs a day.

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And on that note, okay, let's call it a show.

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