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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Dick Gabrielle my last day of vacation today

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<v Speaker 1>before football really starts and then morphs into basketball and baseball.

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<v Speaker 1>So one more edition of the Best of the Big

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<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider, and I'm going to take you back to March,

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<v Speaker 1>first day of March, and forgive me right away for

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that in this particular show very weak voice,

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<v Speaker 1>I was coming off a bad cold, but John Caliperi

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<v Speaker 1>was still Kentucky's head coach when we spoke and reed

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<v Speaker 1>Sheppard was still a Wildcat. Here it is the best

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<v Speaker 1>of the Big Blue Insider from the first day of March.

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<v Speaker 1>The Wildcats tomorrow take on Arkansas. It is not the

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<v Speaker 1>Arkansas team we thought we would see this year. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not clearly the Arkansas team that razorback fans thought they

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<v Speaker 1>would see. Some pick this team to win the SEC.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not even a factor right now except for being

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<v Speaker 1>a spoiler, and of course the Wildcats hoping to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>that fate tomorrow. But based on obviously the way playing

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta think Kentucky now, I would think I would

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<v Speaker 1>hope is like a kid with a new toy, and

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<v Speaker 1>by that I mean, hey, you're learning how to play defense,

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<v Speaker 1>make it work for you. Let's see what you can

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<v Speaker 1>do with it. So we'll find out. We're gonna talk

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<v Speaker 1>about that a lot tonight with Tom Leech, voice of

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats. Sewn Wood's the unforgettable guard. We talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Sean each week. Sewan of course played for the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>and also a longtime college basketball coach. And then our

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<v Speaker 1>West End burea G. Gary Moore. We were bumped on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday by the State Wide Show. So we will talk

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<v Speaker 1>with Gary coming up in our number two. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's still spinning and beaming and twirling talking about the team,

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Nation after that win over Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 1>And it wasn't that they went down there and won,

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<v Speaker 1>it's how they won in my opinion, because remember now

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<v Speaker 1>they were playing essentially without Rob Dillingham for much of

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<v Speaker 1>the game. He played a total of sixteen minutes. He

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<v Speaker 1>was in foul trouble. As you know, Justin Edwards wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>quite himself, got in the early foul trouble and just

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't playing back to the form he had shown. So

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like they were kind of, you know, hamstrung

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. Fortunately, big performance from Big z even

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<v Speaker 1>though he didn't rack a lot of numbers, but his

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<v Speaker 1>plus minus was best for the team seventeen, which I

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<v Speaker 1>find amazing. But the Cats hit three pointers ten out

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<v Speaker 1>of thirty doesn't sound like it's great. And in fact,

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<v Speaker 1>between Thiero and Dillingham they were two for eight and

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<v Speaker 1>Reeves was two for seven himself. But Shepard had a

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<v Speaker 1>good day shooting. DJ Wagner hit two for four. So

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<v Speaker 1>enough went right so that when Kentucky down the stretch,

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<v Speaker 1>put together a good defensive run and lord Mississippi State

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<v Speaker 1>into a running gun game. And that's when State was

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<v Speaker 1>missing shots and shooting quickly and didn't know how to

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<v Speaker 1>do it. Kentucky, of course does and that's how the

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<v Speaker 1>Cats came back sixty one percent shooting in the second half,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen of fifteen from the line. Now, State shot seventeen

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty four in the second half, got inside way

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<v Speaker 1>too much, and thanks to Hubbard, six to sixteen from

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<v Speaker 1>the arc. But Kentucky took care of the ball a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit better until the last seconds and got it done,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks of course, to a lot of different things. But Reed,

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<v Speaker 1>Shepherd was huge and Cali Perry. John Caliberry talked about

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<v Speaker 1>him on his show with Tom Leach the other night.

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<v Speaker 2>He has the ability to stay calm and not worry

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<v Speaker 2>about losing. You only worry about winning. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>win not? You can't play not to lose it. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like a defensive team playing prevent defense. What does that

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<v Speaker 2>prevent you from doing?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So he goes.

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<v Speaker 2>Down and you know, again, in a normal situation, you

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<v Speaker 2>don't call it time out. In those situations, you let

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<v Speaker 2>it play out because you take the other coach out

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<v Speaker 2>of it. Their team is saying, don't foul, so you'll

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<v Speaker 2>get a shot off because they're not going to fool you.

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<v Speaker 2>And Reid had the sense to go and shoot that

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<v Speaker 2>shot and he was guarded.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I want to talk to Sean Woods more about that.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked in the past about why you call it

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<v Speaker 1>time out, why you don't call time out. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>getting back to read Shepherd, it was amazing to me,

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<v Speaker 1>first of all what he did in the last minute

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen seconds. But secondly, and I don't mean this

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<v Speaker 1>with any disrespect, how bad that pass was that he

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<v Speaker 1>threw away. I mean that's something you see in middle school,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe in high school. And I can't say he panicked

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<v Speaker 1>because as Caliperi pointed out, he doesn't panic. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think he has so much confidence in his own ability

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<v Speaker 1>to advance the basketball and he saw his teammate, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like a football pass that hangs up

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<v Speaker 1>and gives the safety a chance to come over and

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<v Speaker 1>pick it off, and it almost costs him the game.

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<v Speaker 1>But all's well. That ended well, and it certainly ended

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<v Speaker 1>well for the Wildcat Well, like I said, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about it with Tom Leach and with Sean Woods.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up in a little bit was Gary Moore the

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<v Speaker 1>come mine underway. And you might have read a little

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<v Speaker 1>something here and there about Trevin Wallace, Wildcat linebacker, gave

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<v Speaker 1>up his last year to try his hand to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get this, and we knew he's a great athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>But yesterday was the day linebackers and defensive tackles and

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<v Speaker 1>ends were tested, and Trevin Wallace tied for third in

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<v Speaker 1>the forty yard dash time among linebackers four point five

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<v Speaker 1>to one seconds, tied him with the Edgerrin Cooper of

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<v Speaker 1>Texas A and M, so that'll get your attention. And

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<v Speaker 1>in the vertical jump thirty seven and a half inches

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<v Speaker 1>second to a kid from University of Washington, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he shows up in the broad jump second by an

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<v Speaker 1>inch to the kid from you dub Ulu Full show

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<v Speaker 1>is that kid's name? Now, you know you could scoff

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<v Speaker 1>at all his testing, But what it does is measure

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<v Speaker 1>out their fast twitch capabilities. Kind of athlete are they

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't necessarily mean he's going to be a great player,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you don't test well, it doesn't mean you won't.

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<v Speaker 1>But it puts him front and center, doesn't it. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta go back and look at how he played

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<v Speaker 1>at Kentucky. And if you don't, you're a fool. If

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<v Speaker 1>you go just on combine, you know you're asking for trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>But if you ignore this, you're a fool as well.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, that the real headline came in

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<v Speaker 1>the d Lineman when a kid from Penn State named

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<v Speaker 1>Chop Robinson d Lineman six three two fifty four did

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<v Speaker 1>a forty and four point four eight seconds. That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Will he be a great player, I don't know, but

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<v Speaker 1>he probably moved up a little bit. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>full tenth of a second faster than the next kid.

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<v Speaker 1>Pretty amazing. I'm not a big combine guy. I know

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people tune in. I follow it a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit. I like to see how the Kentucky kids

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<v Speaker 1>will do. Obviously, I want to see how Andrew Phillips does.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I've said before, I met that kid and me

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<v Speaker 1>he was like one. His father interned for me at

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<v Speaker 1>Channel twenty seven and then later in life bumped into

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<v Speaker 1>him at a UK practice. Here's my son, Andrew. One

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<v Speaker 1>other note before we go to break. Tubby Smith is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be honored at the SEC Tournament as an

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<v Speaker 1>SEC Legend. They'll be part of the Legends class past

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<v Speaker 1>greats from all fourteen SEC institutions. And you know what

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<v Speaker 1>he did here from ninety eight to oh seven, nca

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<v Speaker 1>Tournament champion, ten conference titles, five League, five Tournament, and

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<v Speaker 1>more than anything, carried himself like one of the great

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<v Speaker 1>gentlemen in all the college basketball. Tip of the BBI,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain w Smith. You're listening to the best of the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider more to come here on six thirty

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<v Speaker 1>WLAP welcome back Dick Gabriel with you the best of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insiders that wrap up vacation. On this

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<v Speaker 1>particular clip, we're going to take you back to that

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<v Speaker 1>day in March, where we talk about the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Mitch Barnhardt and John Caliperi got together and decided that

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<v Speaker 1>Caliperi would remain, at least for the time being, the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach of the Kentucky Wildcats. Here it is the

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<v Speaker 1>best of the Big Blue and s you might be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say, it's well, we'll have to look back

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<v Speaker 1>and see if this was hump day for the John

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<v Speaker 1>Caliperry era, because, as we all know, last night, Mitch

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<v Speaker 1>Barnhardt announced via Twitter that John Calipery will be back

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<v Speaker 1>to coach again next year for the Wildcats, to the

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<v Speaker 1>chagrin of some to to relief for the coach, I'm certain,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's got some people scratching their heads what happens next.

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<v Speaker 1>But we had to wait until Barnhart released the statement saying,

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<v Speaker 1>as we normally do at the end of every season,

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<v Speaker 1>Coach Caliperry and I have had conversations about the direction

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<v Speaker 1>of our men's basketball program. I can confirm you will

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<v Speaker 1>return for a sixteenth season as our head coach. Quick

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<v Speaker 1>note on the final part of that sixteenth season, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will never forget when I was talking to Tubby

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<v Speaker 1>Smith and I actually got to have conversations with Tubby.

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<v Speaker 1>He was head coach. I could just walk up, say

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<v Speaker 1>hello and have conversations with him. Imagine that. Tubby told

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<v Speaker 1>me that Lou Holtz told him that Kentucky basketball was

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<v Speaker 1>like Notre Dame football, said, basically, it's a coach killer.

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<v Speaker 1>It'll grind you up and spit you out. And Holts

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<v Speaker 1>was urging Tubby to get out of there. And this

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<v Speaker 1>was well before Tubby left. But I don't know. Caliperry's

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<v Speaker 1>built differently, I think than Holts. And and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Holts didn't leave Notre Dame because of the stress. He

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<v Speaker 1>left because they raised the academic standards back to what

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<v Speaker 1>they had been before he got there, and he took

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<v Speaker 1>advantage after they dropped the academic standards, brought in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of I'm not saying they were bad kids, but

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<v Speaker 1>kids who ord nearly might not have gotten into Notre

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<v Speaker 1>Dame and won a national title and almost one another one.

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<v Speaker 1>Then they raised him back up over his strenuous objections

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<v Speaker 1>and he left. But he wasn't wrong when he was

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Tubby. And you look at the before and

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<v Speaker 1>after pictures of Tubby from when he first got here,

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<v Speaker 1>and when he left Man, you could tell the stress

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<v Speaker 1>had taken a toll. It's hard to see how much

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<v Speaker 1>stress has taken a toll of Caliperi because I think

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<v Speaker 1>of that disconnect, we don't know him that well, at

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<v Speaker 1>least media fans. He has definitely changed, there's no question

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<v Speaker 1>about that. And I do think that the fans and

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of this, of course, comes from the stress

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<v Speaker 1>of losing, of premature exits. You know, you're gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy when your team wins. You're not gonna like

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<v Speaker 1>a guy so much when your team loses, obviously, but

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<v Speaker 1>when he refuses to do a postgame radio show after

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<v Speaker 1>a loss, he refuses to talk to the media, meaning

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<v Speaker 1>to the fans indirectly. Prior to just about every game,

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't do much of a speech at Madness this year.

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<v Speaker 1>It was almost like, let's get this over with and

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<v Speaker 1>get on with it, you know. And that was one

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<v Speaker 1>instance where and I don't know if it's because Eric

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay is gone. I think Eric wrote those speeches when

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<v Speaker 1>he was a sports information and They'm not pointing fingers

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<v Speaker 1>at anybody who's there, because if Calberry wanted a speech

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<v Speaker 1>like that, they could have done it for him. But

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<v Speaker 1>there just isn't the feeling right now toward the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>as we all know. And yeah, so many people wanted

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<v Speaker 1>him gone, but as I've always said, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>that is I'm angry and someone needs to be punished.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you punish the coach? You fire him? The

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<v Speaker 1>Barnhardt's statement conversations about the direction of our men's basketball program.

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<v Speaker 1>And this could be a standard line in every release

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<v Speaker 1>about any coach at the university, successful or otherwise, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's particularly important now, of course, because the direction of

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<v Speaker 1>It is becoming irrelevant to the NCAA tournament. And as

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<v Speaker 1>But that's a terrible thing to say for Kentucky because,

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<v Speaker 1>getting to the tournament. And yes, Kentucky's won only eight

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<v Speaker 1>NCAA titles only and how many you havever many years

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<v Speaker 1>many times, and in fact was a contender under Caliperi

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<v Speaker 1>Neck and quick Who do you like Experience? Those were

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<v Speaker 1>with Billy Rudgles and Aaron Gersha on Monday night. We

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<v Speaker 1>of that too was Caliperry needed to keep them in

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<v Speaker 1>And you know one thing I didn't get into either

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<v Speaker 1>and Cali Perry needs that group when it comes to recruiting.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's all intertwined. But bottom line is I still

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<v Speaker 1>like the notion, as I said, of bringing those two

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<v Speaker 1>these guys come in and change everything. Of course, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a mood point now because you know Dillingham's leaving. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't know so much about Reed Shepherd. We'll find out soon,

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<v Speaker 1>but also find out on the fifteenth of April when

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<v Speaker 1>that portal door swings open again, what happens and it

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<v Speaker 1>stays open for two weeks? Who comes, who goes? And

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<v Speaker 1>will Kentucky get older? As Cali Perry said on a

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<v Speaker 1>show money, we need to get older? How much older?

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<v Speaker 1>How many players can he bring in? He's got what

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<v Speaker 1>six freshmen coming in? What if Bradshaw comes back? What

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<v Speaker 1>if Shepherd comes back, which they should. They all should, really,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's who's ready to pay them. Because remember, you've

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<v Speaker 1>League and learn your craft. Oscar she Way's killing it

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<v Speaker 1>in the G League right now. Of course, he was

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<v Speaker 1>older and more mature, but that's what Kentucky needs, maturity

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<v Speaker 1>on their team. And I played a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>this the other night. I was going to share with

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<v Speaker 1>you if you didn't hear it the first time. After

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's loss, the talking heads got together on both CBS

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<v Speaker 1>and ESPN and chopped it up. And Jay Wright, who

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<v Speaker 1>everybody seems to think would come back with the right price,

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<v Speaker 1>he ain't coming back. And by the way, two national

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<v Speaker 1>titles of Villanova a lot of dry spells, the same

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dry spell Kentucky has in Villanova. While it's

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<v Speaker 1>not Kentucky, it's close. When it comes to success in

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<v Speaker 1>the postseason, it doesn't have eight, but of late it's

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<v Speaker 1>been pretty damn good. But anyhow, everybody thinks that Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Rod not everybody, but a lot of people think Jay

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<v Speaker 1>Wright would take over Kentucky. He's not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he's doing a great job on CBS.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is what he had to say about where

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<v Speaker 1>not just Kentucky, but teams that might be dependent too

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<v Speaker 1>much on young players. Where are they right now, especially

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<v Speaker 1>given the fact that it's now the portal and NIL

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<v Speaker 1>kind of ruling college sports.

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<v Speaker 4>An era of taking these young freshmen and trying to

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<v Speaker 4>play against older players is over.

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<v Speaker 5>He did it.

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<v Speaker 4>I think he did a phenomenal job with the guys

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<v Speaker 4>all year, getting them to be as successful as they were.

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<v Speaker 4>You can see they're playing against grown men. The guys

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<v Speaker 4>on Kentucky will be far better pros than any of

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<v Speaker 4>these guys on Oakland or any of these guys in

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<v Speaker 4>the tournament, but they're not as good college basketball players.

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<v Speaker 4>It's at this point in their career. They're not as

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<v Speaker 4>disciplined yet as the guys from Oakland. And it's not

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<v Speaker 4>Coyle's fault. It's they're eighteen years old and they're in

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<v Speaker 4>this era where everyone's telling them how great they are.

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<v Speaker 4>Just show up in college and you're gonna win. It

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't happen that way. And the more the guys stay

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<v Speaker 4>in college because of NIL is going to be tougher.

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<v Speaker 4>For young teams like this to be successful.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was talking specifically about Kentucky there, and he's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right, absolutely right. You're listening to the best of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider. More to come here on six

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<v Speaker 1>thirty wlap. Hey, it's Dick Gabriel and you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the best of the Big Blue Insider. Joining us now

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<v Speaker 1>is a friend and a blogger and an author and

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<v Speaker 1>a Kentucky man, John Wong Wong's whinings when you read

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<v Speaker 1>his bloggie also is a writer a reporter for Nolan

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<v Speaker 1>at Media Group. And that's right, isn't it Nolan Media Group.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dick.

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<v Speaker 6>It's always an honor to be on here with you.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm not just saying that because you asked me.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm periodically, but I was. I was actually out of

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<v Speaker 6>town for about five weeks doing a little research and

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<v Speaker 6>writing on the West Coast and it was great to

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<v Speaker 6>be able to tune in to Dick Gabriel and dus

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<v Speaker 6>Lynn on the SEC Plus and you made me feel

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<v Speaker 6>like I was writing Kentucky brout Park even though I

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<v Speaker 6>was three thousand miles away. You guys do a great job.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>You shot me at text when you were out there.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't realize you were going back after the coach

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<v Speaker 1>of your daughter's out there? Are you did I hear

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<v Speaker 1>you say your researching? Are you writing another book?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I'm actually working on a little fiction novel, my debut

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<v Speaker 6>fiction novel. So part of the setting took place out there.

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<v Speaker 6>I wanted to do a little bit of research and

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<v Speaker 6>make it a little bit more realistic.

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<v Speaker 5>Plus southern California pond trees.

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<v Speaker 6>When sky see sand, you can't beat it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it a sports backdrop kind of book? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>completely straining away from your comfort zone? No?

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<v Speaker 6>No, We're all product of our experiences. And one of

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<v Speaker 6>the main characters in here is a sports.

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<v Speaker 5>Writer, believe it or not.

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<v Speaker 6>And the premise of the book is a hall of

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<v Speaker 6>fame basketball coach gets brutally murdered.

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<v Speaker 5>During the quarter of a championship season.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, and it's called get this Name, Image and Murder.

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<v Speaker 5>I got to strike while the iron is hot. I

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<v Speaker 5>love it.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it now. Is one of the ancillary characters

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<v Speaker 1>a dashing on orthodontist.

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<v Speaker 5>Perhaps, Well, you'll just have to wait and see. But

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<v Speaker 5>like I, like I said, we.

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<v Speaker 6>All write about things that we're familiar with.

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<v Speaker 5>So a lot of.

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<v Speaker 6>These characters are composites. There's a lot of Big Gabriel

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<v Speaker 6>and this sports.

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<v Speaker 1>Writer got it well. And you've written books you also

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<v Speaker 1>kind of processed and what the better word is for

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<v Speaker 1>your father's books, your father's book that came out recently.

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<v Speaker 1>But what is it like now, John, to try to

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<v Speaker 1>fashion this story at a cent air when in the

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<v Speaker 1>past you've been able to listen to other people, talk

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<v Speaker 1>to other people, draw upon their experiences, and put fact

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, it's completely different writing.

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<v Speaker 6>Fiction, boding nonfiction, completely different areas. And that's one of

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<v Speaker 6>the reasons why I wanted to kind of explore that

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<v Speaker 6>life is short. You want to take advantage of all

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<v Speaker 6>these opportunities, explore different options. But it was very, very different.

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<v Speaker 6>For example, in some of my other books, I had

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<v Speaker 6>to really focus in on making sure that I got

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<v Speaker 6>the scores correct and the facts and the figures and

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<v Speaker 6>the historical aspect of it. I include a lot of

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<v Speaker 6>history in this fiction book, But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm able to craft a lot more with it than

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<v Speaker 6>I usually would with some can already happen that's already

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<v Speaker 6>Who cares, I'll just make it up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fiction, right when in your many endeavors, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>wearing your journalist cap, you have to be accurate. You

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<v Speaker 1>have to strive to be as accurate as possible. And

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<v Speaker 1>in this case, who cares?

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<v Speaker 6>Right, Well, there are probably some people who will still care.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't want to purposely go mawaligning anybody. You want

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<v Speaker 6>to say bad things that are completely untrued.

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<v Speaker 5>But you can leave a lot of things to the imagination.

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<v Speaker 5>And I had a.

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<v Speaker 6>Lot of fun with this. I've always wanted to do a.

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<v Speaker 5>Fiction book, and I may still crash and burn.

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<v Speaker 6>But hopefully I built up enough of an audience that

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<v Speaker 6>people be interested. It's first and foremost it's a who

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<v Speaker 6>done it? It's a murder mystery. But on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 6>it's given me kind of a platform and I can

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<v Speaker 6>write an exposition on everything that I think.

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<v Speaker 5>Is wrong in the world of.

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<v Speaker 6>College sports right now, all this nil transfer portal onset

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<v Speaker 6>of sports gambling. I certainly give my personal take into

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<v Speaker 6>all of that, and it'll be interesting to see what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking forward to that you and I've talked before,

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<v Speaker 1>and I teach you about you know, a former Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you'll always be a dentist. I mean, you don't lose

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<v Speaker 1>that status, but you are retired. Orthodonisy turned basically to

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<v Speaker 1>sports writing and reporting, and in your second career, as

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<v Speaker 1>it were, you happen to hit it. You just referred

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<v Speaker 1>to this this period of college athletics, and you and

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<v Speaker 1>I were at UK at the same time, giving away

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<v Speaker 1>your age a little bit, didn't know each other. But

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<v Speaker 1>what that means is our backgrounds are similar when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the sports and teams we followed. And now

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<v Speaker 1>you and I and everybody really we're having to a

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<v Speaker 1>just to this period of college athletics. It is really unprecedented, John,

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<v Speaker 5>Well, you have to have the right mindset, Dick, because.

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<v Speaker 6>If you let it, it can really get It's easy

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<v Speaker 6>to be the old guy. Get off my lawn. It

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<v Speaker 6>was better in the old.

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<v Speaker 5>Days, And realistically, I do think.

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<v Speaker 6>It was better in the olden days.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I'm not saying that there wasn't a lot

422
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<v Speaker 5>of payment to players going on.

423
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<v Speaker 6>There was pay to play going on. Ever since the

424
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<v Speaker 6>dawn of civilization. I'm sure some of it was underhanded

425
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<v Speaker 6>and such, but there was still more of a sense

426
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<v Speaker 6>of the purity of the game. People playing for the

427
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<v Speaker 6>name on the front of the jersey, people playing for

428
00:25:41.440 --> 00:25:44.599
<v Speaker 6>the love of the game. And it's so different right now.

429
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<v Speaker 6>It's a whole new world. But you know what, you

430
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<v Speaker 6>better get used to it because it's not changing. The

431
00:25:50.079 --> 00:25:53.440
<v Speaker 6>force is already out of the barn. All this legislation

432
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<v Speaker 6>that they're kind of coming up with to try to

433
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<v Speaker 6>limit the collectives out there and the influence of parties, well,

434
00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 6>when it comes right down to it, I say, who

435
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:05.599
<v Speaker 6>you do. It's still paid to play. Sure, whether the

436
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:09.200
<v Speaker 6>collectives are paying or whether the school's paying, it's all

437
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<v Speaker 6>different right now.

438
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well, in the ruling that came down the settlement

439
00:26:12.960 --> 00:26:16.240
<v Speaker 1>two point seven billion, I just saw something where UCLA

440
00:26:16.319 --> 00:26:20.559
<v Speaker 1>has six hundred scholarship athletes and they may be divving

441
00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:23.400
<v Speaker 1>up as much as twenty million dollars among them. So

442
00:26:24.039 --> 00:26:26.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, the thing to remember is if you're a

443
00:26:26.519 --> 00:26:30.319
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky fan, you're gonna be okay. You know, your school

444
00:26:30.839 --> 00:26:34.960
<v Speaker 1>isn't a power conference. It has a it's dealing from

445
00:26:34.960 --> 00:26:37.480
<v Speaker 1>a position of strength. John, I worry about it. I

446
00:26:37.519 --> 00:26:41.640
<v Speaker 1>always say that's the Ekus, the Murray States, the Moorhead States,

447
00:26:41.839 --> 00:26:44.440
<v Speaker 1>even to a degree, the Western Kentucky's because that's not

448
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<v Speaker 1>in a big media outlet, not in a huge D

449
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<v Speaker 1>one conference. And I really wonder in the next decade

450
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<v Speaker 1>what it's going to look like. I hope I'm around

451
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<v Speaker 1>to see it. But you're right, it's nothing like when

452
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<v Speaker 1>we were and it never will be again like when

453
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<v Speaker 1>we were in school.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that they play a big, big part

455
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<v Speaker 5>of this landscape of why we.

456
00:27:06.960 --> 00:27:10.000
<v Speaker 6>Enjoy sports so much. I love seeing the Westerns and

457
00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.160
<v Speaker 6>the Easterns them doing.

458
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<v Speaker 5>Well and to see them kind of fade out.

459
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<v Speaker 6>Or be sucked up into.

460
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:18.880
<v Speaker 5>Some other big board Texas that's coming, where all we have.

461
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:20.599
<v Speaker 6>Are the big boys playing the game.

462
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<v Speaker 5>That scares me. But even within UK, Dick, I'm a

463
00:27:25.519 --> 00:27:27.480
<v Speaker 5>I'm a sports fan, but I think.

464
00:27:27.279 --> 00:27:31.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm first and foremost at University of Kentucky sports fan.

465
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<v Speaker 5>I'd rather watch UK ping pong than.

466
00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:38.119
<v Speaker 6>I would probably the NBA Championship because I love the

467
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:43.079
<v Speaker 6>University of Kentucky and right now, what with all these

468
00:27:43.200 --> 00:27:47.039
<v Speaker 6>changes that are coming, they're gonna be sports in which

469
00:27:47.039 --> 00:27:49.920
<v Speaker 6>you're gonna have to pick and choose. You know, Kentucky

470
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<v Speaker 6>is gonna obviously they're gonna support men's basketball and football,

471
00:27:54.200 --> 00:27:57.599
<v Speaker 6>and women's basketball and baseball. But some of these other

472
00:27:57.720 --> 00:28:00.359
<v Speaker 6>minor sports are gonna have to pick and choose switch

473
00:28:00.480 --> 00:28:03.160
<v Speaker 6>ones that that want to be throwing that money into.

474
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<v Speaker 6>And that's going to be a difficult decision.

475
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<v Speaker 1>Yep. And as all of this evens out, uh, there

476
00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.200
<v Speaker 1>are gonna be schools that make tough decisions. And you're

477
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<v Speaker 1>gonna see, and I've said this from day one, You're

478
00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna see Olympic sports disappear at some schools. I don't

479
00:28:16.920 --> 00:28:19.440
<v Speaker 1>think it will happen to Kentucky, but I do fear

480
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:22.279
<v Speaker 1>for and I love you know, I cover baseball, volleyball

481
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.880
<v Speaker 1>for the SEC network, you know, every now and then

482
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 1>women's basketball, soccer, stuff like that. So I fear for that.

483
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<v Speaker 1>But in terms of the name on the front of

484
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<v Speaker 1>the jersey, Kentucky with a basketball coach now who has

485
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<v Speaker 1>pledged that that will be job one representing that name.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider

487
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<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six thirty WLAP He it's

488
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel and you're listening to the best of the

489
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<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. We're talking with blogger, author reporter John

490
00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Wong of Wong's whinings and the Nolan Media Group. I

491
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<v Speaker 1>don't know that you and I have spoken on the air, John,

492
00:28:59.519 --> 00:29:02.720
<v Speaker 1>since Mark Pope was hired, because it's we said you've

493
00:29:02.759 --> 00:29:06.319
<v Speaker 1>been traveling. But I had some of his comments that

494
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<v Speaker 1>he that he said on the Fine Bomb Show yesterday.

495
00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:10.480
<v Speaker 1>They've been making the rounds and I played some of

496
00:29:10.519 --> 00:29:13.640
<v Speaker 1>them earlier on the show tonight, and as I was

497
00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:15.599
<v Speaker 1>preparing for the interview with you, I got to think,

498
00:29:15.599 --> 00:29:20.279
<v Speaker 1>and this guy is perfect for John Wong because he

499
00:29:20.559 --> 00:29:25.759
<v Speaker 1>loves UK. He has talked from literally day one about

500
00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:27.599
<v Speaker 1>the name on the front of the jersey as opposed

501
00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:29.920
<v Speaker 1>to the back. He's a man of faith, he's a

502
00:29:29.960 --> 00:29:35.640
<v Speaker 1>family man. You are Mark Pope, aren't you. Maybe without

503
00:29:35.640 --> 00:29:38.279
<v Speaker 1>all the basketball acumen, but in so many.

504
00:29:38.119 --> 00:29:43.519
<v Speaker 6>Ways right, And I think he probably enjoys winning as much.

505
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:46.440
<v Speaker 5>As I do. Also, So the proof is going to.

506
00:29:46.359 --> 00:29:48.640
<v Speaker 6>Be in the polding. Ultimately, there's going to be a

507
00:29:49.640 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 6>there's a period in which was kind of a lot

508
00:29:52.000 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 6>of slack just because of who he is, but ultimately

509
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:57.839
<v Speaker 6>it's going to come down the winning ball games and.

510
00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:01.440
<v Speaker 5>Dancing in the tournament. Different than it is with any

511
00:30:01.480 --> 00:30:06.240
<v Speaker 5>other coach. But yes, very very exciting. Yeah, I left.

512
00:30:06.039 --> 00:30:10.960
<v Speaker 6>Town the day before his news conference. I missed all

513
00:30:11.000 --> 00:30:13.920
<v Speaker 6>of that albolo. Of course, I streamed everything online, but.

514
00:30:13.880 --> 00:30:16.240
<v Speaker 5>As you know, it's not the same as being.

515
00:30:16.079 --> 00:30:19.079
<v Speaker 6>There in person and soaking it all in. But on

516
00:30:19.119 --> 00:30:21.640
<v Speaker 6>the other hand, it gave me a little chance to

517
00:30:21.720 --> 00:30:24.680
<v Speaker 6>kind of step away from the hubbub that was brewing

518
00:30:25.079 --> 00:30:28.359
<v Speaker 6>within the town. I was three thousand miles away. People

519
00:30:28.400 --> 00:30:31.880
<v Speaker 6>there in California. They didn't ever know who Mark Pope is,

520
00:30:31.920 --> 00:30:38.680
<v Speaker 6>Mark wu what'd you get him for? They're interested at Dagers, Lakers, whatever.

521
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<v Speaker 6>And it really made me realize how Kentucky centric we

522
00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:48.119
<v Speaker 6>are living here in central Kentucky. This was the first

523
00:30:48.200 --> 00:30:51.519
<v Speaker 6>Saturday of May. Of course, I'm waking up Kentucky Derby,

524
00:30:51.599 --> 00:30:53.839
<v Speaker 6>I'm in my yoga class, and I.

525
00:30:53.799 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 5>Say, hey, everyone, first Saturday of May.

526
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<v Speaker 1>Hooray.

527
00:30:56.960 --> 00:30:59.039
<v Speaker 5>They didn't know what I was talking about.

528
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<v Speaker 6>But we really are Kentucky centric, and that's a good thing.

529
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<v Speaker 6>There are things that we're just very, very passionate about.

530
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<v Speaker 6>But yeah, I've had.

531
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<v Speaker 5>A chance to kind of kind of sit back and

532
00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:12.240
<v Speaker 5>the way things worked out thick.

533
00:31:12.359 --> 00:31:16.119
<v Speaker 6>It was probably as well as we could have even

534
00:31:16.200 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 6>drawn it on the board. The way that fan base

535
00:31:18.839 --> 00:31:22.400
<v Speaker 6>was divided over coach John Caliperry, I don't think there

536
00:31:22.440 --> 00:31:24.039
<v Speaker 6>was any way we could have.

537
00:31:24.279 --> 00:31:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Come back the next year and had any.

538
00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 6>Sort of success. I mean it was literally I think

539
00:31:29.319 --> 00:31:32.960
<v Speaker 6>split fifty fifty down the middle. People loved him, other

540
00:31:33.079 --> 00:31:36.200
<v Speaker 6>half hated him. But with Pope on board, boy, there

541
00:31:36.240 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 6>was a little bit of initial pushback, but within twenty

542
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:44.079
<v Speaker 6>four hours that was so amazing. The tie turned completely

543
00:31:44.160 --> 00:31:46.519
<v Speaker 6>And everybody I talk to you now is the full

544
00:31:46.559 --> 00:31:48.599
<v Speaker 6>support of them. Do I wish he had a couple

545
00:31:48.640 --> 00:31:52.160
<v Speaker 6>more great scores? Yeah, I wish she could have done that.

546
00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.960
<v Speaker 6>But Mark Pope supposedly a great offensive mind. He'll put

547
00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.279
<v Speaker 6>it together. That's why we're paying him the big bucks.

548
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<v Speaker 1>Well, and may get one or two great scores because

549
00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:03.680
<v Speaker 1>that that's not over yet. Now, Well, were these deadlines

550
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:06.920
<v Speaker 1>coming and going? You know, you may you bring up

551
00:32:06.920 --> 00:32:09.640
<v Speaker 1>an interesting point about if Calipari had stayed. I do

552
00:32:09.680 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 1>think they would have had success. It would have won

553
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a lot of games, But you would have had this

554
00:32:14.519 --> 00:32:16.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it was a pallor or a

555
00:32:16.279 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 1>dark cloud or whatever hanging over the program because it

556
00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>seemed like there was this win or else vibe that

557
00:32:23.480 --> 00:32:26.799
<v Speaker 1>that arose. You know, you had the uncomfortable meeting between

558
00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Caliperi and Barnard and they appeared on on TV. Some

559
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:32.319
<v Speaker 1>said they looked like hostages. Others said they looked like,

560
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:34.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, people in couples therapy.

561
00:32:34.920 --> 00:32:35.039
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

562
00:32:35.519 --> 00:32:38.640
<v Speaker 1>And clearly it was uncomfortable. But everybody in the big

563
00:32:38.640 --> 00:32:41.279
<v Speaker 1>Blue Nation, good or bad, you know, pro or con,

564
00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 1>would have been waiting to see just how far they

565
00:32:44.079 --> 00:32:46.799
<v Speaker 1>went in the NCA tournament, John, and I don't think

566
00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:48.400
<v Speaker 1>it would have mattered how far they went short of

567
00:32:48.440 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 1>the final four. People would have gone I don't want

568
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.400
<v Speaker 1>to They wouldn't have gone crazy, but especially if they

569
00:32:53.559 --> 00:32:55.440
<v Speaker 1>got knocked out in the first round. But it just

570
00:32:55.480 --> 00:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>would not have been palatable. I don't think so. Now,

571
00:32:59.079 --> 00:33:00.839
<v Speaker 1>like you say, it's a fresh start with.

572
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<v Speaker 6>Mark Pope, Yeah, you are correct in that for the

573
00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:08.240
<v Speaker 6>very first time. And this is what's extremely, extremely scary, Dick.

574
00:33:08.759 --> 00:33:12.920
<v Speaker 6>I knew people who were just as avid Kentucky fans

575
00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:16.720
<v Speaker 6>as I were. Was cheer for the program always, and

576
00:33:16.759 --> 00:33:19.000
<v Speaker 6>there were a couple of those guys who were actually

577
00:33:19.079 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 6>cheering against cal Perry. They wanted the team to do

578
00:33:23.119 --> 00:33:27.079
<v Speaker 6>poorly just so that it would kind of hasten his exit.

579
00:33:27.559 --> 00:33:31.960
<v Speaker 6>That to me is extremely, extremely scary. We're fans, we're passionate.

580
00:33:32.160 --> 00:33:33.000
<v Speaker 6>We should cheer for.

581
00:33:32.960 --> 00:33:34.240
<v Speaker 5>The program no matter what.

582
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<v Speaker 6>Now, of course I'm talking everything, not not regarding our

583
00:33:39.759 --> 00:33:42.799
<v Speaker 6>media hat. You know, that's a whole different ballgame.

584
00:33:42.839 --> 00:33:46.519
<v Speaker 5>But as a fan, to be cheering against your team.

585
00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 6>Just because you have an agenda with the coach, to me,

586
00:33:49.680 --> 00:33:52.039
<v Speaker 6>that crosses the line. That's not good.

587
00:33:52.279 --> 00:33:56.039
<v Speaker 1>And that said, you mentioned cutting some slack to Mark Pope.

588
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.440
<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Big Blue Nation is capable of that?

589
00:33:59.519 --> 00:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And I will And I mentioned this on the show earlier.

590
00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:05.680
<v Speaker 1>We saw that in Patino's first year because we you

591
00:34:05.720 --> 00:34:09.719
<v Speaker 1>know where the program was then it hit below rock bottom.

592
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:13.719
<v Speaker 1>That's that wasn't the case, even though the roster was empty.

593
00:34:14.400 --> 00:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>That's not really the case in this day and age

594
00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>of the portal. But nobody expected much of anything from Patino,

595
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 1>and he delivered well beyond I think their expectations. Mark Pope,

596
00:34:26.440 --> 00:34:28.880
<v Speaker 1>who of course played for Rick, I don't think has

597
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:32.559
<v Speaker 1>that luxury, does he? I mean, will people cut him slack?

598
00:34:34.159 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 6>I think He's got a one year honeymoon period for sure.

599
00:34:38.239 --> 00:34:41.679
<v Speaker 6>I think they could do extremely, extremely poorly this year,

600
00:34:41.719 --> 00:34:44.320
<v Speaker 6>and they're not going to get rid of them or

601
00:34:44.360 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 6>anything like that. There'll be a few natives who are restless,

602
00:34:47.320 --> 00:34:51.280
<v Speaker 6>but that's to be expected. This does remind me a

603
00:34:51.280 --> 00:34:54.079
<v Speaker 6>little bit of that eighty nine year, that first Patino year,

604
00:34:54.119 --> 00:34:56.679
<v Speaker 6>and I think a lot of the excitement that was

605
00:34:56.800 --> 00:35:00.360
<v Speaker 6>generated that year was because of who the player were,

606
00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:04.400
<v Speaker 6>you know, the unforgettable, the in state stars, plus the

607
00:35:04.519 --> 00:35:07.719
<v Speaker 6>style of play that they played, you know, that ustle

608
00:35:07.880 --> 00:35:10.280
<v Speaker 6>up and down the court. I think that played a

609
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.679
<v Speaker 6>lot into how how the fans got into it and

610
00:35:13.719 --> 00:35:18.000
<v Speaker 6>got got after him. I think this year, with Travis

611
00:35:18.079 --> 00:35:22.280
<v Speaker 6>Perry and and Trent Nolan there in the Kentucky connections,

612
00:35:22.320 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 6>there's a lot of similarities associated with that. So yes,

613
00:35:26.320 --> 00:35:29.079
<v Speaker 6>I think they well cut him from slack. I think

614
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:34.000
<v Speaker 6>he's got a complete free range this one. Ear the excitement,

615
00:35:34.199 --> 00:35:39.559
<v Speaker 6>the brand new fervor of Kentucky basketball back again. I

616
00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:42.639
<v Speaker 6>think that'll carry the team through. That'll carry Pope through

617
00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:43.199
<v Speaker 6>a few.

618
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<v Speaker 1>Minutes left with John Wong, blogger author Kentucky fan, Wong's whinings,

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<v Speaker 1>Staying with this parallel interesting that you had. We talked

620
00:35:53.199 --> 00:35:56.760
<v Speaker 1>about Patino when he first got here. Pope played for Patino,

621
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<v Speaker 1>but played for a lot of guys in the NBA

622
00:35:59.360 --> 00:36:01.679
<v Speaker 1>and draws a lot of the lessons he learned from them.

623
00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:05.760
<v Speaker 1>But when Patino got here, yeah, his roster was not

624
00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.559
<v Speaker 1>full of all stars. Mashbourne wasn't here yet. But now

625
00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Sean Woods about this on the

626
00:36:10.480 --> 00:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>show last night. Patino inherited guys who knew how to

627
00:36:13.840 --> 00:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>play the game, and I'm talking. You talked about the

628
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:20.599
<v Speaker 1>unforgettables of Sean and Pelfrey and Feldaust and Richie. Those

629
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<v Speaker 1>guys knew how to play basketball, basketball players and which

630
00:36:25.360 --> 00:36:27.400
<v Speaker 1>Cali Perry talked about this year, and he wasn't wrong

631
00:36:27.440 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 1>about that. He had guys with high basketball IQ starting

632
00:36:30.599 --> 00:36:35.119
<v Speaker 1>with Reed Shepherd. I think Pope's gonna have a similar

633
00:36:35.239 --> 00:36:39.079
<v Speaker 1>roster because he's gonna have veterans and he has vetted

634
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<v Speaker 1>these guys. Plus he's a pretty good coach.

635
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<v Speaker 5>Right, Absolutely.

636
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<v Speaker 6>I think when when you mentioned those guys the Unforgettables

637
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:57.559
<v Speaker 6>fell House and Farmer and pil and Woods, those guys

638
00:36:57.679 --> 00:37:01.639
<v Speaker 6>were not only high I but they were very coachable.

639
00:37:01.760 --> 00:37:04.440
<v Speaker 5>Yes, they had good coaching.

640
00:37:04.079 --> 00:37:08.480
<v Speaker 6>Throughout their high school careers, and I think that that

641
00:37:08.559 --> 00:37:12.760
<v Speaker 6>kind of parlayed into being able to accept a guy

642
00:37:12.920 --> 00:37:16.880
<v Speaker 6>like Patino who was extremely demanding coming in and essentially

643
00:37:16.960 --> 00:37:20.199
<v Speaker 6>telling them you will do this this, You're going to

644
00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.079
<v Speaker 6>do it my way too. He ran those guys ragged,

645
00:37:23.159 --> 00:37:26.639
<v Speaker 6>and they were able to accept his coaching acumen and

646
00:37:26.760 --> 00:37:28.119
<v Speaker 6>parlay it into.

647
00:37:27.920 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 5>The success that they did that year. I'm hoping that

648
00:37:30.639 --> 00:37:32.920
<v Speaker 5>you're going to see the same thing with some of

649
00:37:32.920 --> 00:37:34.880
<v Speaker 5>these guys on this team, this roster.

650
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<v Speaker 1>Well, as we wrap this up, speaking of the portal

651
00:37:38.360 --> 00:37:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and coachable players and building with guys who are transferring in.

652
00:37:43.679 --> 00:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>What a job Nick min Joon and his staff have

653
00:37:45.960 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 1>done really the last two years of blending their recruits

654
00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:52.519
<v Speaker 1>three year guys like Devin Burks and Nolan McCarthy and

655
00:37:52.559 --> 00:37:56.239
<v Speaker 1>Evan Byers with the portal guys, and that's all been

656
00:37:56.239 --> 00:37:58.760
<v Speaker 1>a part of the fabric of college baseball for decades.

657
00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:01.480
<v Speaker 1>People transferring in because they only have eleven and a

658
00:38:01.519 --> 00:38:05.960
<v Speaker 1>half scholarships, but they've put together another contender and now

659
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:09.639
<v Speaker 1>an SEC champion. John and I know you've covered several

660
00:38:09.639 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>of the baseball games since you've been back you got

661
00:38:12.039 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>to be looking forward to this weekend.

662
00:38:14.440 --> 00:38:17.159
<v Speaker 5>This This is amazing, Dick. When you think.

663
00:38:16.960 --> 00:38:20.239
<v Speaker 6>About where men young and the program lost two to

664
00:38:20.320 --> 00:38:22.119
<v Speaker 6>three years ago. This was a guy who was on

665
00:38:22.159 --> 00:38:24.840
<v Speaker 6>the hot seat. People really wanted to do it and

666
00:38:24.880 --> 00:38:28.360
<v Speaker 6>to see what they've accomplished the year after in which

667
00:38:28.360 --> 00:38:31.480
<v Speaker 6>they made to run the SEC Tournament, and then last

668
00:38:31.559 --> 00:38:34.679
<v Speaker 6>year and now this year. It's a little bit different

669
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:35.599
<v Speaker 6>than basketball.

670
00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:38.880
<v Speaker 5>We're not going to be judging this team on the success.

671
00:38:38.440 --> 00:38:41.320
<v Speaker 6>In the postseason. I'd like to see him make him run.

672
00:38:42.119 --> 00:38:45.519
<v Speaker 6>One of my bucket list items is still Omaha College

673
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:48.360
<v Speaker 6>World Series. But even if they don't make it out

674
00:38:48.400 --> 00:38:50.920
<v Speaker 6>of the regional I think what they've accomplished during the

675
00:38:51.000 --> 00:38:55.760
<v Speaker 6>course of the season these past seasons, that's pretty amazing.

676
00:38:55.840 --> 00:38:57.199
<v Speaker 6>That speaks for usself.

677
00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:58.599
<v Speaker 5>Thanks Dick, Thanks so much.

678
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<v Speaker 1>See at the ballpark Listening to the Best of the

679
00:39:01.159 --> 00:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Big Blue Insider. Hour number two is next here on

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty w LAP. It's Dick Gabriel, Welcome back to

681
00:39:40.400 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 1>the Best of the Big Blue Insider. Joining us now

682
00:39:43.320 --> 00:39:45.159
<v Speaker 1>is a longtime buddy at, a friend of the show,

683
00:39:45.199 --> 00:39:50.119
<v Speaker 1>former WTVH sports director. Now the sports director WHS said Louisville,

684
00:39:50.159 --> 00:39:52.880
<v Speaker 1>Kent Spencer, who, as I like to say, is one

685
00:39:52.920 --> 00:39:54.800
<v Speaker 1>of only two guys on the beat that I know

686
00:39:54.840 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>of who's been hitting the mouth in a college football game.

687
00:39:57.079 --> 00:39:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Him and Jeff pcorro So. I love talking football with

688
00:40:00.719 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 1>uh SEC media days in Dallas. It's going to be

689
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.840
<v Speaker 1>a zoo down there, Kent. But if your Mark Stoops,

690
00:40:07.320 --> 00:40:09.079
<v Speaker 1>what do you think is going to be the message

691
00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:12.480
<v Speaker 1>about your team? Because last year I think everybody bought

692
00:40:12.480 --> 00:40:15.199
<v Speaker 1>into the Kentucky hype and I think rightfully so, and

693
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Kentucky underperformed. I got to think he back sat down

694
00:40:18.519 --> 00:40:19.400
<v Speaker 1>a little bit, don't you.

695
00:40:20.639 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 7>I think cautious optimism is probably, you know, his his

696
00:40:25.480 --> 00:40:28.480
<v Speaker 7>best thing. And you know, I think if if he

697
00:40:28.599 --> 00:40:30.760
<v Speaker 7>has a few question marks or if he has a

698
00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.360
<v Speaker 7>few unknowns, even if it feels good about him, I

699
00:40:33.440 --> 00:40:35.599
<v Speaker 7>think it's okay to put things out like, look, hey,

700
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:38.159
<v Speaker 7>we're gonna have to see We're gonna see have to

701
00:40:38.199 --> 00:40:40.199
<v Speaker 7>see how these guys perform. We're gonna have to see

702
00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.199
<v Speaker 7>how these guys hold up and this in this situation.

703
00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:46.599
<v Speaker 7>But I think you know, if you're Mark Stoops, you're

704
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:48.760
<v Speaker 7>you're one hundred percent right. He was pretty he was

705
00:40:48.880 --> 00:40:51.960
<v Speaker 7>very bullish on his team last year, and to be

706
00:40:52.039 --> 00:40:55.239
<v Speaker 7>quite honest, I mean they were, you know, they were

707
00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 7>really close to having a really good season, but you know,

708
00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 7>some of those losses I South Carolina and a few others,

709
00:41:04.039 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 7>you know, they were real letdowns and underperformed in certain situations.

710
00:41:08.360 --> 00:41:10.159
<v Speaker 7>I mean, even look at the at the bowl game.

711
00:41:10.280 --> 00:41:13.000
<v Speaker 7>Great great moments, right, yeah, but you can't get it

712
00:41:13.039 --> 00:41:16.519
<v Speaker 7>done against a Clemson team that's a that's a notable brand.

713
00:41:16.880 --> 00:41:19.079
<v Speaker 7>That would have been a huge victory for them, you know,

714
00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 7>and and propelled them into the offseason. Just didn't work

715
00:41:21.920 --> 00:41:22.440
<v Speaker 7>out that way.

716
00:41:22.719 --> 00:41:26.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think Kautia's optimism is fair because there are

717
00:41:26.119 --> 00:41:29.760
<v Speaker 1>so many question marks starting at quarterback, but defense has

718
00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 1>question marks two so uh and and they can't mess

719
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.000
<v Speaker 1>around ken as you know, the scheduled demands, they'd be

720
00:41:36.079 --> 00:41:37.559
<v Speaker 1>ready to go almost immediately.

721
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:41.880
<v Speaker 7>No, you're right, and and you know you you mentioned

722
00:41:41.960 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 7>you mentioned quarterback. They felt so good about Devin Leary

723
00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 7>going into last year and that he was more of

724
00:41:48.880 --> 00:41:52.599
<v Speaker 7>a proven product than than Brock vandergriff Is. And so

725
00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:55.800
<v Speaker 7>you know, I think when you and I think for

726
00:41:55.920 --> 00:42:00.440
<v Speaker 7>me and and probably most people would would agree, Devin

727
00:42:00.599 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 7>Leary experiment was more of a disappointment than it was

728
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 7>a positive there. You know, I just don't think, you know,

729
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:09.719
<v Speaker 7>anybody he had the season that anybody thought he was

730
00:42:09.760 --> 00:42:12.400
<v Speaker 7>going to have. I thought, you know, I think everybody

731
00:42:12.400 --> 00:42:13.880
<v Speaker 7>thinks that they were going to be a lot better

732
00:42:13.920 --> 00:42:17.199
<v Speaker 7>in that in that department. So you know, those kind

733
00:42:17.199 --> 00:42:19.679
<v Speaker 7>of things, especially early on, that's going to be tested.

734
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:24.400
<v Speaker 7>And then also, you know, I think the offensive line

735
00:42:24.440 --> 00:42:27.280
<v Speaker 7>showed a little bit of improvement last year, as you know,

736
00:42:27.400 --> 00:42:31.320
<v Speaker 7>but but it needs that it needs to get back

737
00:42:31.360 --> 00:42:33.800
<v Speaker 7>to where it used to be, and that's tougher. You

738
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.639
<v Speaker 7>and I have talked about this before. You know, the

739
00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:41.079
<v Speaker 7>longer that John Schlarman is is not there anymore, the

740
00:42:41.159 --> 00:42:45.320
<v Speaker 7>more you know, the Big Blue Wall is only the

741
00:42:45.360 --> 00:42:48.599
<v Speaker 7>Big Blue Wall in name only at the moment. And

742
00:42:49.000 --> 00:42:51.480
<v Speaker 7>it's a I almost kind of equate it to remember

743
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:53.920
<v Speaker 7>when Nebraska's defensive line used to be known as the

744
00:42:53.960 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 7>black Shirts. Yeah, and they would have the black Shirts.

745
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.599
<v Speaker 7>You know, they still do that at Nebraska. That's a

746
00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:04.119
<v Speaker 7>name only, like they don't play that way anymore, and

747
00:43:04.199 --> 00:43:08.400
<v Speaker 7>so and that used to come from the tom Osborne days. Well,

748
00:43:09.119 --> 00:43:13.159
<v Speaker 7>you know, tom Osborne is long since gone, so you know,

749
00:43:13.679 --> 00:43:18.239
<v Speaker 7>you almost have to redefined or find your own identity now.

750
00:43:19.119 --> 00:43:23.400
<v Speaker 7>And so you know, they really need their offensive line

751
00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.119
<v Speaker 7>to get back to protecting the quarterback, to be in

752
00:43:26.199 --> 00:43:30.760
<v Speaker 7>physical on a on a consistent basis, and they just

753
00:43:30.800 --> 00:43:34.119
<v Speaker 7>weren't that anymore. And I look at their their secondary

754
00:43:34.239 --> 00:43:37.199
<v Speaker 7>so many question marks there, like, hey, what's what's going

755
00:43:37.280 --> 00:43:40.360
<v Speaker 7>to happen there? You know, I think there are a

756
00:43:40.400 --> 00:43:42.679
<v Speaker 7>lot of question marks, and they're going to be tested,

757
00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:45.079
<v Speaker 7>Like you said, with that schedule early, with with the

758
00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 7>likes of South Carolina and Georgia. You know, early, man,

759
00:43:49.199 --> 00:43:50.719
<v Speaker 7>they're going to be put to the test early.

760
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:55.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you can't losing Andrew Phillips and and right away

761
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>think oh we'll be fine, maybe we'll be even better.

762
00:43:57.360 --> 00:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>Now you've got to go out and prove that. And

763
00:43:59.760 --> 00:44:02.280
<v Speaker 1>they've got some opportunities to do that. But the last

764
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:06.360
<v Speaker 1>time we saw that defensive backfield, it had been decimated

765
00:44:06.360 --> 00:44:08.440
<v Speaker 1>by injuries by the end of the bowl game. And

766
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:10.559
<v Speaker 1>we all know what happened at the end of that game.

767
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 1>So so much to prove isn't there.

768
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.199
<v Speaker 7>You know, they've they've had guys though that have had

769
00:44:17.280 --> 00:44:19.239
<v Speaker 7>rough outings and bowl games and at the end of

770
00:44:19.239 --> 00:44:24.320
<v Speaker 7>the season season and they've specifically in the secondary, and

771
00:44:24.480 --> 00:44:27.599
<v Speaker 7>those guys have used that in the past as a

772
00:44:27.639 --> 00:44:31.679
<v Speaker 7>motivation for the future and really have have bounced back

773
00:44:32.280 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 7>and had great seasons the very next year. And so

774
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:39.360
<v Speaker 7>that's that's one of those things that I'm curious to

775
00:44:39.960 --> 00:44:44.840
<v Speaker 7>see and and you know, to be to be quite

776
00:44:45.320 --> 00:44:47.800
<v Speaker 7>to be quite honest, you know, I look at a

777
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:52.800
<v Speaker 7>Barry and Brown at wide receiver, who I think had

778
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.800
<v Speaker 7>nice moments last year, and even maybe Dame Key at

779
00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:01.239
<v Speaker 7>wide receiver. I think some of those guys had nice moments,

780
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:04.000
<v Speaker 7>but I think they would even probably tell you their

781
00:45:04.039 --> 00:45:08.239
<v Speaker 7>season as a whole was largely a disappointment, yeah, because

782
00:45:08.280 --> 00:45:10.880
<v Speaker 7>they had set so much of expectations on them, on

783
00:45:10.960 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 7>themselves and what they did. I think both of those

784
00:45:14.000 --> 00:45:18.440
<v Speaker 7>guys had had had nice Bowl games there, Well, how

785
00:45:18.480 --> 00:45:20.800
<v Speaker 7>do you use that back and how do you have

786
00:45:20.840 --> 00:45:24.559
<v Speaker 7>a more consistent season Because those guys, they have the

787
00:45:24.599 --> 00:45:27.079
<v Speaker 7>talent to be able to play on Sundays, but you

788
00:45:27.159 --> 00:45:29.639
<v Speaker 7>got to be consistent in what you do. You got

789
00:45:29.679 --> 00:45:32.199
<v Speaker 7>to be consistent in how you prepare and your knowledge

790
00:45:32.199 --> 00:45:37.519
<v Speaker 7>for the game. So I'm curious to see how they react.

791
00:45:37.800 --> 00:45:41.199
<v Speaker 7>I'm curious to see how they perform in bush Hampden's

792
00:45:41.679 --> 00:45:43.559
<v Speaker 7>offense that they're going to use this year.

793
00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Talking to Ken Spencer, sports director whas Over in Louisville,

794
00:45:47.840 --> 00:45:50.119
<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad you brought up bush ham down because

795
00:45:51.039 --> 00:45:54.519
<v Speaker 1>it's interesting. One of the things that Mark Stoops I

796
00:45:54.519 --> 00:46:00.039
<v Speaker 1>think has done at Kentucky is built consistency in the

797
00:45:59.800 --> 00:46:05.639
<v Speaker 1>world way they recruit and develop and win games. But

798
00:46:05.840 --> 00:46:08.519
<v Speaker 1>he's not afraid to make changes. And it's not often

799
00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.679
<v Speaker 1>his decision like you know, Liam Cohen suddenly bolts. But

800
00:46:12.840 --> 00:46:16.679
<v Speaker 1>he has had more than one offensive coordinator. They have

801
00:46:16.800 --> 00:46:21.440
<v Speaker 1>not all been cookie cutters. But you know, I think

802
00:46:21.480 --> 00:46:25.599
<v Speaker 1>that he is willing Stoops to go with a guy

803
00:46:25.639 --> 00:46:27.920
<v Speaker 1>like bush Hamon and say, let's see what you can bring.

804
00:46:28.480 --> 00:46:31.119
<v Speaker 1>And you know, in basic philosophy is what he needs.

805
00:46:31.760 --> 00:46:33.920
<v Speaker 1>But he's always gonna want to run the football, isn't he.

806
00:46:33.960 --> 00:46:35.440
<v Speaker 1>It's always going to have to be balanced.

807
00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.360
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I mean, they want they want to be fifty

808
00:46:39.400 --> 00:46:41.480
<v Speaker 7>to fifty. They want to be better in the passing game.

809
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:46.920
<v Speaker 7>They want to be explosive. You know, I think you

810
00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.639
<v Speaker 7>know everybody talks about Okay, Kentucky football is here. Okay,

811
00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:54.360
<v Speaker 7>and they've had a few years where they've been able

812
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.760
<v Speaker 7>to kind of make that jump and get up there

813
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:02.400
<v Speaker 7>and and you know, have have really really a really

814
00:47:02.440 --> 00:47:06.760
<v Speaker 7>really nice season. And so for me, when I look

815
00:47:06.800 --> 00:47:10.000
<v Speaker 7>at when I look at them kind of going forward,

816
00:47:10.239 --> 00:47:16.039
<v Speaker 7>I think that they need consistency in the offensive coordinator position.

817
00:47:17.159 --> 00:47:18.360
<v Speaker 7>They just haven't had it.

818
00:47:18.639 --> 00:47:18.840
<v Speaker 5>Dick.

819
00:47:19.000 --> 00:47:21.519
<v Speaker 7>I mean, you know, yeah, Liam Cohen came back for

820
00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.599
<v Speaker 7>two different stints, but it was to one year stints.

821
00:47:25.119 --> 00:47:28.519
<v Speaker 7>I believe, Yeah, that's just not that's just not enough.

822
00:47:28.960 --> 00:47:32.599
<v Speaker 7>And you know, Rich Gangarello and then even before that,

823
00:47:32.679 --> 00:47:35.800
<v Speaker 7>obviously there was there was the one year even though

824
00:47:35.880 --> 00:47:38.599
<v Speaker 7>Eddie granted had been there a long time. But I

825
00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:41.800
<v Speaker 7>mean we're talking what bush Hampton is is the fifth

826
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:43.360
<v Speaker 7>offensive coordinator they've had.

827
00:47:43.239 --> 00:47:45.519
<v Speaker 6>In five years.

828
00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, and and you know, maybe you know, some things

829
00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 7>stay the same, but verbiage always changes and how things

830
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:57.119
<v Speaker 7>are called in different things. So that's these kids happened

831
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:00.119
<v Speaker 7>to learn five different you know, five different systems in

832
00:48:00.199 --> 00:48:02.639
<v Speaker 7>five different years. Now some of those are coming in

833
00:48:02.679 --> 00:48:05.519
<v Speaker 7>to new and freshmen. You know, they really haven't had

834
00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:09.320
<v Speaker 7>to learn that much. That's so much change, you know,

835
00:48:09.519 --> 00:48:12.199
<v Speaker 7>and it's impossible to say, like, hey, we're going to

836
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.920
<v Speaker 7>keep an offensive coordinator for five ten years, but you know,

837
00:48:16.199 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 7>you could really benefit by having somebody for three to

838
00:48:19.800 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 7>four years. And so I think they really need consistency

839
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.679
<v Speaker 7>at that position in order to be able to take

840
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.960
<v Speaker 7>the next step. It's impossible to do it with so

841
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:30.800
<v Speaker 7>much change.

842
00:48:31.519 --> 00:48:34.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, as you say that, I flash and it

843
00:48:34.079 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 1>doesn't take much to the Bill Curry era when Bill

844
00:48:37.719 --> 00:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>changed his offensive coordinator so many times. But the difference

845
00:48:42.159 --> 00:48:46.519
<v Speaker 1>is they change their style. You know, they go from

846
00:48:46.639 --> 00:48:51.679
<v Speaker 1>pro style to eyebone to optionists, you know, and it

847
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:55.239
<v Speaker 1>affects your recruiting patterns. That's the one thing they haven't

848
00:48:55.280 --> 00:48:58.880
<v Speaker 1>really had to change. They've they've kind of stayed pro style,

849
00:48:59.360 --> 00:49:01.119
<v Speaker 1>so they haven't had to go out and you know,

850
00:49:01.119 --> 00:49:03.159
<v Speaker 1>maybe get a whole bunch of fullbacks or a whole

851
00:49:03.159 --> 00:49:07.480
<v Speaker 1>bunch of more wide receivers or different kinds of old linemen,

852
00:49:07.519 --> 00:49:08.079
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean.

853
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:11.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, But but here's my here he would be the

854
00:49:11.880 --> 00:49:15.239
<v Speaker 7>only pushback on that. So personnel is always the same, right,

855
00:49:15.239 --> 00:49:19.360
<v Speaker 7>But when you change burbage so much, when you change

856
00:49:19.400 --> 00:49:22.320
<v Speaker 7>burbage and plays and all of this this so much,

857
00:49:22.360 --> 00:49:24.119
<v Speaker 7>it can be the same concept, but it can be

858
00:49:24.159 --> 00:49:28.239
<v Speaker 7>completely different is what is the one thing that coaches

859
00:49:28.280 --> 00:49:31.039
<v Speaker 7>want their teams to do. They want them to play

860
00:49:31.079 --> 00:49:34.480
<v Speaker 7>without thinking. They want them to play fast, right, I

861
00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.280
<v Speaker 7>want them to be free of mind, so you can

862
00:49:37.320 --> 00:49:41.440
<v Speaker 7>play fast if you are learning a whole new playbook

863
00:49:41.480 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 7>each and every year. Man, it is impossible to do

864
00:49:45.760 --> 00:49:51.239
<v Speaker 7>that thing without thinking. And so and in college football

865
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 7>and in the SEC when you take a moment and you're

866
00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:59.239
<v Speaker 7>thinking about it, the plays already passed, You're you're long gone.

867
00:49:59.239 --> 00:50:01.960
<v Speaker 7>If you're a steps low in that league, you're losing

868
00:50:02.000 --> 00:50:07.000
<v Speaker 7>by thirty and so you know, it's it's one of

869
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:10.440
<v Speaker 7>those things where I think, you know, these guys in

870
00:50:10.480 --> 00:50:12.920
<v Speaker 7>some moments are thinking so much. That's why it's so

871
00:50:13.039 --> 00:50:15.320
<v Speaker 7>tough for true freshmen to really be able to exel.

872
00:50:15.679 --> 00:50:18.719
<v Speaker 7>They can excel in certain positions because maybe certain some

873
00:50:18.840 --> 00:50:22.119
<v Speaker 7>positions are a little simpler but or they have a

874
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.639
<v Speaker 7>certain package, but you know, you put a you put

875
00:50:25.639 --> 00:50:28.360
<v Speaker 7>a true freshman in there, let's say an offensive line

876
00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.360
<v Speaker 7>or something like that. Man, that game moves really really fast.

877
00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:33.920
<v Speaker 7>It takes a long time for it to slow down.

878
00:50:34.000 --> 00:50:36.599
<v Speaker 7>So I just think that benyl side of things, it

879
00:50:36.719 --> 00:50:39.880
<v Speaker 7>needs to get easier. And with that comes consistency.

880
00:50:40.440 --> 00:50:43.599
<v Speaker 1>Ken Spencer's my guess he is a sports director. Whas

881
00:50:43.719 --> 00:50:46.199
<v Speaker 1>and Louisville will come back and talk more Kentucky football

882
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:48.519
<v Speaker 1>with Campada. They're listening to the best of the Big

883
00:50:48.519 --> 00:50:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. More to come here on six thirty w lap. Hey,

884
00:50:53.000 --> 00:50:55.320
<v Speaker 1>it's Dick Gabriel and you're listening to the best of

885
00:50:55.400 --> 00:50:59.199
<v Speaker 1>the Big Blue Insider talking with Ken Spencer talking Kentucky

886
00:50:59.239 --> 00:51:02.719
<v Speaker 1>football with This Furts director W h As This week

887
00:51:02.840 --> 00:51:07.280
<v Speaker 1>in Dallas, Dion Walker, I think will captivate the writer's room.

888
00:51:07.360 --> 00:51:10.119
<v Speaker 1>I think, really any room he's in own you. He's

889
00:51:10.119 --> 00:51:12.920
<v Speaker 1>one of the three players. And I think Derek Jackson

890
00:51:12.920 --> 00:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>will be fine. Marcus Cox will be fine. Old Limaner usually,

891
00:51:16.599 --> 00:51:19.400
<v Speaker 1>as you know, pretty good interviews. But there's just something

892
00:51:19.440 --> 00:51:21.320
<v Speaker 1>about Walker. He's charming, isn't he.

893
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so he not only is he charming, but he's

894
00:51:26.840 --> 00:51:28.880
<v Speaker 7>not afraid to be bullish.

895
00:51:29.079 --> 00:51:29.679
<v Speaker 1>That's true.

896
00:51:32.199 --> 00:51:35.760
<v Speaker 7>You know, there might be some they may tell him

897
00:51:35.800 --> 00:51:40.000
<v Speaker 7>not to say certain things, but sometimes you just you

898
00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:43.440
<v Speaker 7>you know, you can't put him in a cage. First off.

899
00:51:43.679 --> 00:51:46.440
<v Speaker 7>First off, he's too big and he's too good, and

900
00:51:47.079 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 7>there may be a few things that come out of

901
00:51:49.119 --> 00:51:51.400
<v Speaker 7>out of his mouth that will make Mark Stukes cringe

902
00:51:51.440 --> 00:51:54.639
<v Speaker 7>a little bit. But yeah, he's one of those kids

903
00:51:54.639 --> 00:51:57.440
<v Speaker 7>like once you sit down with him and then you

904
00:51:57.559 --> 00:52:00.519
<v Speaker 7>get away from the conversation, you look at whoever you're

905
00:52:00.519 --> 00:52:04.400
<v Speaker 7>with and you're like, man, I really enjoyed that. Yeah,

906
00:52:04.719 --> 00:52:07.400
<v Speaker 7>that's just the way, that's just the way that he is. Yeah.

907
00:52:07.760 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 7>I think that he'll be a kid this week that

908
00:52:11.119 --> 00:52:13.079
<v Speaker 7>everybody enjoys talking to.

909
00:52:13.480 --> 00:52:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I'm curious to see how de Eric Jackson

910
00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:18.360
<v Speaker 1>does and I think he will do well. He's a

911
00:52:18.400 --> 00:52:22.800
<v Speaker 1>smart kid, but he is soft spoken. As you know.

912
00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:26.039
<v Speaker 1>He's not a bad interview. But generally when it came

913
00:52:26.079 --> 00:52:29.440
<v Speaker 1>to linebackers, we would gravitate to Trevin Wallace, wouldn't we

914
00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.960
<v Speaker 1>His running made and now. But of course Derek D.

915
00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:35.519
<v Speaker 1>Jack is a veteran. He's played a lot of football

916
00:52:35.920 --> 00:52:37.239
<v Speaker 1>and he knows what's coming at him.

917
00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:41.239
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, the funny thing about it is

918
00:52:41.119 --> 00:52:45.360
<v Speaker 7>is sometimes like you know a kid and you don't

919
00:52:45.559 --> 00:52:48.519
<v Speaker 7>know if they're the best talker or not, or you know,

920
00:52:48.559 --> 00:52:51.920
<v Speaker 7>you don't maybe necessarily go with them to interviews. So

921
00:52:52.039 --> 00:52:54.119
<v Speaker 7>when it comes to coaches and fans, they don't care

922
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:56.280
<v Speaker 7>about that stuff. Like, are you solid?

923
00:52:56.639 --> 00:52:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

924
00:52:56.920 --> 00:53:01.039
<v Speaker 7>And Eric Jackson for Kentucky's defense is as solid as rock.

925
00:53:01.639 --> 00:53:05.440
<v Speaker 7>I mean, I really think that he took a massive

926
00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:09.280
<v Speaker 7>step forward last year on that defense. And I think

927
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:14.440
<v Speaker 7>when you look at their defense outside of Dion Walker,

928
00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.039
<v Speaker 7>who's always going to be, you know, a one man

929
00:53:17.039 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 7>wrecking crew up front, I think the Eric Jackson at

930
00:53:20.280 --> 00:53:23.840
<v Speaker 7>linebacker is as as solid as a gainst. He always

931
00:53:23.840 --> 00:53:26.760
<v Speaker 7>seems like he's in the right He always seems like

932
00:53:26.800 --> 00:53:29.800
<v Speaker 7>he's in the right place. And when he arrives, he

933
00:53:29.920 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 7>arrives with bad intention.

934
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:36.880
<v Speaker 1>When you lose a running mate, like like a Trevin

935
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Wallace who obviously was a great college player, he's in

936
00:53:40.320 --> 00:53:44.639
<v Speaker 1>the NFL now and came out a year early as

937
00:53:44.639 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>a linebacker, what what are the adjustments you have to make?

938
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.639
<v Speaker 1>What kind of challenge is it going to be for Jackson?

939
00:53:51.679 --> 00:53:54.599
<v Speaker 1>And again an experienced guy, but he's going to be

940
00:53:54.679 --> 00:53:56.760
<v Speaker 1>flanked by a new running mate, you know what I mean?

941
00:53:57.840 --> 00:54:01.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, but that that running mate has already had some experience,

942
00:54:01.760 --> 00:54:05.960
<v Speaker 7>a ton ton of experience at the SEC level. And

943
00:54:06.039 --> 00:54:09.199
<v Speaker 7>so you know, the one thing about you know, playing

944
00:54:09.280 --> 00:54:12.760
<v Speaker 7>with a linebacker for a couple of years is you

945
00:54:12.840 --> 00:54:14.480
<v Speaker 7>know where they're going to be you know, kind of

946
00:54:14.519 --> 00:54:17.280
<v Speaker 7>how they do things and this and that you know,

947
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:21.119
<v Speaker 7>it will it will come, and it can and I

948
00:54:21.119 --> 00:54:24.440
<v Speaker 7>think at linebacker honestly that I think it can come

949
00:54:24.480 --> 00:54:28.039
<v Speaker 7>in practice. You know, sometimes you don't really know things

950
00:54:28.119 --> 00:54:31.519
<v Speaker 7>until you get in a game, but I think you

951
00:54:31.559 --> 00:54:35.760
<v Speaker 7>can feel of each other at that position in practice.

952
00:54:36.480 --> 00:54:39.199
<v Speaker 7>And the way that that that Brad White and and

953
00:54:39.280 --> 00:54:42.760
<v Speaker 7>those coaches they you know, they've they they've coached those

954
00:54:42.760 --> 00:54:45.960
<v Speaker 7>linebackers up really well, you know, over these you know,

955
00:54:46.119 --> 00:54:50.639
<v Speaker 7>last handful of years or how however many long so

956
00:54:51.199 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 7>you know, inside linebacker for them, in my opinion, has

957
00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 7>has generally been a strength for what they do. They've

958
00:54:59.159 --> 00:55:01.920
<v Speaker 7>always found the fips and they found guys who kind

959
00:55:01.960 --> 00:55:03.079
<v Speaker 7>of compliment each other there.

960
00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:06.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, they've done a good job at that and

961
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.559
<v Speaker 1>they need to. That has to happen because if they're

962
00:55:09.559 --> 00:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>not communicating, that could be a real disaster. A couple

963
00:55:13.239 --> 00:55:16.480
<v Speaker 1>of minutes left of Ken Spencer Kent covers U of

964
00:55:16.639 --> 00:55:19.519
<v Speaker 1>l Indiana whatever it takes there in the city of Louisville,

965
00:55:19.960 --> 00:55:24.079
<v Speaker 1>and I watched again that Louisville Kentucky game. I was

966
00:55:24.159 --> 00:55:26.599
<v Speaker 1>laid up recovering from surgery, as you know, when they

967
00:55:26.639 --> 00:55:31.000
<v Speaker 1>played that game, and what a great football game. But

968
00:55:31.559 --> 00:55:34.559
<v Speaker 1>I had kind of forgotten how talented Louisville was going

969
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:37.719
<v Speaker 1>into that game. It was the favorite, an eight point favorite,

970
00:55:37.719 --> 00:55:41.199
<v Speaker 1>I think in that game Ken. So now it's almost

971
00:55:41.280 --> 00:55:45.719
<v Speaker 1>a rebuilt roster for Jeff Brohm and they've already been

972
00:55:45.760 --> 00:55:49.199
<v Speaker 1>predicted to be better than Kentucky. That's that's a win

973
00:55:49.519 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 1>from most prognosticators for Louisville when they look at the schedule,

974
00:55:54.360 --> 00:55:57.199
<v Speaker 1>what can we expect from from the Cardinals and when

975
00:55:57.760 --> 00:55:59.719
<v Speaker 1>UK and U of L get together. A lot of

976
00:55:59.719 --> 00:56:02.599
<v Speaker 1>foot ball has to happen between then and now. But

977
00:56:02.639 --> 00:56:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be interesting again, isn't it.

978
00:56:05.800 --> 00:56:07.920
<v Speaker 7>Yeah. I mean, you know, when you look at the

979
00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:12.719
<v Speaker 7>when you look at the cards I think that most people,

980
00:56:12.840 --> 00:56:17.280
<v Speaker 7>even though I mean, you know they Louisill played so

981
00:56:17.360 --> 00:56:21.400
<v Speaker 7>well last year, but you know, their their biggest disappointment was,

982
00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:23.840
<v Speaker 7>you know, they lost the last three games of their season,

983
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 7>and Jeff Brown was he has not been shy about

984
00:56:29.599 --> 00:56:32.400
<v Speaker 7>the fact that even in those three games, his most

985
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:37.360
<v Speaker 7>disappointing loss were the Kentucky loss because that's a rivalry game.

986
00:56:37.480 --> 00:56:40.559
<v Speaker 7>That's the game that he desperately wants to win. He

987
00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:43.719
<v Speaker 7>knows his fan base desperately wants to win. It's not

988
00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 7>been easy going for them in that series the last

989
00:56:48.159 --> 00:56:51.559
<v Speaker 7>handful of years, and so it's it's the one game

990
00:56:51.599 --> 00:56:55.519
<v Speaker 7>that that he wants. I also think that most fans

991
00:56:55.559 --> 00:57:00.239
<v Speaker 7>would tell you that they thought that Jack Plumber was

992
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:03.280
<v Speaker 7>not the best answer for them at quarterback, even though

993
00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:05.440
<v Speaker 7>I think he was by far the best quarterback they

994
00:57:05.480 --> 00:57:08.719
<v Speaker 7>had on the roster. Right, they wanted more out of

995
00:57:08.760 --> 00:57:12.440
<v Speaker 7>that position, right, And let's be honest, I think Kentucky

996
00:57:12.480 --> 00:57:14.559
<v Speaker 7>fans wanted more out of that position for them last

997
00:57:14.599 --> 00:57:18.519
<v Speaker 7>year as well. So Jeff Bron brings in Tyler Shuck

998
00:57:19.199 --> 00:57:22.679
<v Speaker 7>transfer from Texas Tech. He is going to be I

999
00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:25.239
<v Speaker 7>want to say, he's going to be twenty five years

1000
00:57:25.239 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 7>old at some point in like August or September, right,

1001
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:34.880
<v Speaker 7>and he's a talented kid. Actually he's a talented man.

1002
00:57:35.000 --> 00:57:37.960
<v Speaker 7>When you're twenty five, you're told you're a man. But

1003
00:57:39.760 --> 00:57:42.920
<v Speaker 7>he is a talented man who has not been able

1004
00:57:43.000 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 7>to stay healthy. They have to keep him healthy, they

1005
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.119
<v Speaker 7>have to keep him upright for them to be able

1006
00:57:49.119 --> 00:57:53.039
<v Speaker 7>to win football games. I think that they believe that

1007
00:57:53.079 --> 00:57:56.800
<v Speaker 7>their offensive line is even though they lose a Brian Hudson.

1008
00:57:56.840 --> 00:58:00.280
<v Speaker 7>I think they think their offensive line is you know, uh,

1009
00:58:00.920 --> 00:58:03.840
<v Speaker 7>one of their strongest assets that they have coming back.

1010
00:58:05.079 --> 00:58:08.840
<v Speaker 7>Their question marks obviously are at quarterback if you can

1011
00:58:08.920 --> 00:58:12.280
<v Speaker 7>keep him healthy running you know, they running back. They

1012
00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.239
<v Speaker 7>lose two of their running backs, their their top two

1013
00:58:15.320 --> 00:58:19.239
<v Speaker 7>running backs to the NFL. And then wide receiver. You know,

1014
00:58:19.280 --> 00:58:21.119
<v Speaker 7>you had a lot of wide receiver turnover. Now you

1015
00:58:21.480 --> 00:58:24.880
<v Speaker 7>do have some guys coming back, but not you know,

1016
00:58:25.000 --> 00:58:28.079
<v Speaker 7>not your high end producers. So they do have some

1017
00:58:28.280 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 7>question marks. He's you know, he has lived in the portal.

1018
00:58:33.400 --> 00:58:36.519
<v Speaker 7>You know, they they've really attacked the portal and so

1019
00:58:37.480 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 7>you know, we'll kind of see, you know, not so

1020
00:58:40.320 --> 00:58:42.679
<v Speaker 7>much early on because you know they kind of they

1021
00:58:42.760 --> 00:58:45.760
<v Speaker 7>kind of ease into this thing right a little bit

1022
00:58:45.800 --> 00:58:48.920
<v Speaker 7>schedule wise, but at some point you know you're gonna

1023
00:58:48.920 --> 00:58:52.039
<v Speaker 7>be tested and you'll see how those guys perform. But no,

1024
00:58:52.239 --> 00:58:54.440
<v Speaker 7>I think, you know, with the way that they you know,

1025
00:58:54.480 --> 00:58:56.320
<v Speaker 7>some of the guys they got out of the portal,

1026
00:58:56.760 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 7>they feel good, but you've got to be able to

1027
00:58:59.840 --> 00:59:04.679
<v Speaker 7>to to mesh and go forward and be successful as

1028
00:59:04.719 --> 00:59:05.480
<v Speaker 7>a unit.

1029
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 1>So I guess by the time UK and U of

1030
00:59:07.679 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 1>L play. We'll find out which team is meshed the best.

1031
00:59:11.440 --> 00:59:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I guess and stayed healthy.

1032
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.039
<v Speaker 7>I think that's the Dick. I think that's the biggest

1033
00:59:17.039 --> 00:59:21.000
<v Speaker 7>thing right Like also, I think, what what are you

1034
00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:26.280
<v Speaker 7>playing for when that game rolls around? And are you

1035
00:59:26.440 --> 00:59:28.840
<v Speaker 7>healthy enough to be able to perform at your best?

1036
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 7>I think those two are huge, huge factors.

1037
00:59:33.440 --> 00:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Ken Spencer sports director Whas and Louisville give everybody your

1038
00:59:37.960 --> 00:59:43.239
<v Speaker 1>ex handle at WJS eleven ten. It's just that simple.

1039
00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, brother. We'll see it on the road. You're

1040
00:59:46.679 --> 00:59:49.039
<v Speaker 1>listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider. More

1041
00:59:49.079 --> 00:59:52.800
<v Speaker 1>to come here on six thirty w LAP. Welcome back

1042
00:59:52.840 --> 00:59:55.039
<v Speaker 1>to the Best of the Big Blue Insider. Dick Gabriel

1043
00:59:55.119 --> 00:59:58.159
<v Speaker 1>with you my last day of vacations. So we're taking

1044
00:59:58.199 --> 01:00:01.840
<v Speaker 1>you back to a conversation and I had with Ryan

1045
01:00:01.920 --> 01:00:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Walschmidt later in the season. The Wildcats were rolling. They

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01:00:05.760 --> 01:00:09.639
<v Speaker 1>were coming off the sweep of Alabama. This particular segment

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01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:13.639
<v Speaker 1>aired the night of the Kentucky Samford game down in Birmingham.

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01:00:13.760 --> 01:00:16.920
<v Speaker 1>In fact, Samford beat the Wildcats, but Kentucky went on

1049
01:00:17.280 --> 01:00:20.719
<v Speaker 1>to win a series at Auburn. Again, another road series

1050
01:00:20.800 --> 01:00:23.840
<v Speaker 1>win at Auburn the Cats on their way to an

1051
01:00:23.920 --> 01:00:27.239
<v Speaker 1>SEC title. So my conversation with Ryan Walshman, who would

1052
01:00:27.360 --> 01:00:30.159
<v Speaker 1>go on to become a supplemental first round draft pick

1053
01:00:30.159 --> 01:00:32.840
<v Speaker 1>and signed for a couple of million bucks, they're listening

1054
01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:35.440
<v Speaker 1>to the best of the big doingsider. Yeah, that's a

1055
01:00:35.440 --> 01:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>big road week for the Wildcats, but they are rolling. Man.

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01:00:38.400 --> 01:00:41.920
<v Speaker 1>They come off a sweep of Alabama. That's their fifth

1057
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:45.320
<v Speaker 1>sweep of the season, three in the conference, two in

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01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.280
<v Speaker 1>non conference. And one of the guys in one of

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01:00:48.320 --> 01:00:52.119
<v Speaker 1>the biggest reasons, quite frankly, is Ryan Walshmidth Kentucky's left

1060
01:00:52.119 --> 01:00:56.039
<v Speaker 1>fielder who blew his knee in the summertime playing summer ball,

1061
01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 1>but had the surgery and then made it all the

1062
01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:01.559
<v Speaker 1>way back just about for the start of the season,

1063
01:01:01.880 --> 01:01:04.760
<v Speaker 1>began as a DH They finally put him back and left.

1064
01:01:04.800 --> 01:01:07.599
<v Speaker 1>He has been killing the ball and I had a

1065
01:01:07.679 --> 01:01:09.239
<v Speaker 1>chance to sit in and talk with him in the

1066
01:01:09.280 --> 01:01:14.039
<v Speaker 1>dugout after the win on Sunday against Alabama. Well, first

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01:01:14.039 --> 01:01:17.719
<v Speaker 1>of all, congratulations on another sweep. You guys. Your confidence

1068
01:01:17.800 --> 01:01:19.159
<v Speaker 1>level's got to be off the charts.

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01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Yeah for sure.

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01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:22.519
<v Speaker 8>I mean just coming out here every day having a

1071
01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 8>good time with each other and just enjoying playing baseball.

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01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:26.440
<v Speaker 3>You know, when you do that.

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01:01:26.440 --> 01:01:28.400
<v Speaker 8>I think it takes a lot of stress off of everything,

1074
01:01:28.599 --> 01:01:31.119
<v Speaker 8>just making the pitch, making the play, getting the hit.

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01:01:31.400 --> 01:01:32.920
<v Speaker 8>I think when you're just out here having fun with

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01:01:32.960 --> 01:01:36.199
<v Speaker 8>each other and just enjoying everyone's company makes it a

1077
01:01:36.280 --> 01:01:39.119
<v Speaker 8>lot of stress free baseball, And I think that accounts

1078
01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:40.840
<v Speaker 8>for a lot of winning too. So I think that's

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01:01:41.079 --> 01:01:43.159
<v Speaker 8>the biggest part of our success so far.

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01:01:43.760 --> 01:01:46.119
<v Speaker 1>It's a happy time right now. But take me back

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01:01:46.159 --> 01:01:49.079
<v Speaker 1>to to your injury. Had you ever had an injury

1082
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:49.400
<v Speaker 1>like that?

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01:01:49.599 --> 01:01:51.440
<v Speaker 3>What happened? Just a bad step or what.

1084
01:01:52.320 --> 01:01:55.519
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I stepped in a hole in the cape trying

1085
01:01:55.519 --> 01:01:57.719
<v Speaker 8>to make a throw to the plate, and you know,

1086
01:01:58.079 --> 01:02:00.559
<v Speaker 8>I felt the tear when I did it.

1087
01:02:00.599 --> 01:02:02.440
<v Speaker 3>I was hoping I broke my leg. Wasn't ended up

1088
01:02:02.480 --> 01:02:03.440
<v Speaker 3>being the case.

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01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:05.840
<v Speaker 1>It's funny to say that I hope I broke my mind.

1090
01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:06.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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01:02:06.440 --> 01:02:09.000
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Usually when it's that bad, you're hoping for just

1092
01:02:09.239 --> 01:02:11.360
<v Speaker 8>the most positive thing that could happen.

1093
01:02:11.639 --> 01:02:14.159
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it was tough. I had an injury way

1094
01:02:14.199 --> 01:02:15.679
<v Speaker 3>back in high school. I hurt my arm.

1095
01:02:16.079 --> 01:02:17.840
<v Speaker 8>I was out for a little bit, but nothing to

1096
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:22.079
<v Speaker 8>this extent of tearing your ACL, and I think the

1097
01:02:22.119 --> 01:02:24.440
<v Speaker 8>hardest thing about it is just you gotta be able

1098
01:02:24.440 --> 01:02:25.800
<v Speaker 8>to deal with it as quick as you can and

1099
01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:27.719
<v Speaker 8>just move on because you can't change it. You just

1100
01:02:27.719 --> 01:02:29.960
<v Speaker 8>gotta change your mind and change how you think about it.

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01:02:30.559 --> 01:02:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I rehab three knees, not an ACL, but still some

1102
01:02:34.400 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 1>serious surgery. And isn't it weird how your body just

1103
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:40.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't feel like it's yours, that part of you, that limb.

1104
01:02:40.880 --> 01:02:42.039
<v Speaker 3>You're like, what are you doing to me?

1105
01:02:42.599 --> 01:02:42.840
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

1106
01:02:42.960 --> 01:02:43.639
<v Speaker 3>No, for sure.

1107
01:02:43.719 --> 01:02:46.440
<v Speaker 8>Sometimes I'm doing stuff and I'm like, man, I don't

1108
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:48.400
<v Speaker 8>remember doing it feeling like this when I did it.

1109
01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:51.480
<v Speaker 3>But you know it, Just gotta keep pushing.

1110
01:02:51.159 --> 01:02:53.559
<v Speaker 8>Every day, just get healthier and just keep going down

1111
01:02:53.599 --> 01:02:58.440
<v Speaker 8>that path of just positive mindset, positive just things that

1112
01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.400
<v Speaker 8>happened for me, and just keep getting strung longer and

1113
01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:01.599
<v Speaker 8>keep getting better every day.

1114
01:03:01.960 --> 01:03:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Was the timetable first put to you, You should be

1115
01:03:05.920 --> 01:03:06.800
<v Speaker 1>able to play this year.

1116
01:03:06.840 --> 01:03:08.280
<v Speaker 3>Did you think it would take longer?

1117
01:03:08.320 --> 01:03:10.079
<v Speaker 1>Did the doctor sink it would take longer?

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01:03:10.800 --> 01:03:14.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, So as soon as I got hurt, I obviously

1119
01:03:14.559 --> 01:03:17.320
<v Speaker 8>mapped out the chart. I took the calendar out, accounted

1120
01:03:17.360 --> 01:03:19.800
<v Speaker 8>the month, so I was like, okay. They at first

1121
01:03:19.800 --> 01:03:23.000
<v Speaker 8>there telling me, eight months is the earliest possible. And

1122
01:03:23.639 --> 01:03:25.960
<v Speaker 8>you know, I'm I'm a pretty positive guy. I'm pretty

1123
01:03:26.000 --> 01:03:27.920
<v Speaker 8>hard worker, and I think the first thing I said

1124
01:03:28.079 --> 01:03:30.280
<v Speaker 8>was like, I'm gonna be back for the first game.

1125
01:03:30.320 --> 01:03:31.920
<v Speaker 8>Like that was my goal was to be out there

1126
01:03:31.960 --> 01:03:34.760
<v Speaker 8>for February seventeenth. I was like, that's the day I'll

1127
01:03:34.800 --> 01:03:38.800
<v Speaker 8>be back. And I came really close. I mean I

1128
01:03:39.239 --> 01:03:42.119
<v Speaker 8>was right there. I pressure Doc, We all pressured Doc,

1129
01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:44.880
<v Speaker 8>like hey man, he's ready, and he was like, I'll

1130
01:03:44.880 --> 01:03:46.719
<v Speaker 8>give him that bat for the first weekend. So I

1131
01:03:46.719 --> 01:03:49.400
<v Speaker 8>got one pinch hit, remember, made it back. I got

1132
01:03:49.400 --> 01:03:52.559
<v Speaker 8>to DH one game the next week. Take taking the

1133
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:55.519
<v Speaker 8>baby steps, but that was just always my goal. I

1134
01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.679
<v Speaker 8>set the data being ready for the first game, and

1135
01:03:57.760 --> 01:03:59.440
<v Speaker 8>that's that's why I put my mind to And usually

1136
01:03:59.480 --> 01:04:00.599
<v Speaker 8>when I my mind.

1137
01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.440
<v Speaker 3>Of something, I don't I don't like to do anything

1138
01:04:02.519 --> 01:04:02.840
<v Speaker 3>but that.

1139
01:04:03.039 --> 01:04:05.880
<v Speaker 1>So what was it like for you when you could

1140
01:04:05.920 --> 01:04:07.880
<v Speaker 1>we talk to you after you got to finally play

1141
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:11.239
<v Speaker 1>defense and you got to get back to patrolling left field.

1142
01:04:11.599 --> 01:04:12.559
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, it's awesome.

1143
01:04:12.599 --> 01:04:15.079
<v Speaker 8>I mean obviously just being able to play the game

1144
01:04:15.119 --> 01:04:17.480
<v Speaker 8>again was a big thing for me. And you know,

1145
01:04:17.760 --> 01:04:20.719
<v Speaker 8>still dhing was awesome, but I like to try and

1146
01:04:20.800 --> 01:04:22.760
<v Speaker 8>impact the game in as many ways as possible, so

1147
01:04:22.840 --> 01:04:25.000
<v Speaker 8>getting back out there on defense was just another big

1148
01:04:25.039 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 8>step for me, and it was a little nerve wracking

1149
01:04:28.039 --> 01:04:30.599
<v Speaker 8>at first. I think the first ball I got was

1150
01:04:30.639 --> 01:04:33.199
<v Speaker 8>the groundball to throw someone out of the plate, and

1151
01:04:33.280 --> 01:04:34.880
<v Speaker 8>I missed it. I ended up messing up to play

1152
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:37.039
<v Speaker 8>and I was just like, man, I was thinking about

1153
01:04:37.039 --> 01:04:39.000
<v Speaker 8>it obviously going in. I'm like, of course, this is

1154
01:04:39.039 --> 01:04:41.159
<v Speaker 8>the first play I'm going to get. But you know,

1155
01:04:41.239 --> 01:04:42.760
<v Speaker 8>every game I get to go back out there, every

1156
01:04:42.800 --> 01:04:45.239
<v Speaker 8>day that goes by, I just feel more comfortable playing

1157
01:04:45.280 --> 01:04:48.719
<v Speaker 8>the field. Confidence is back, and I'm just getting back

1158
01:04:48.719 --> 01:04:49.880
<v Speaker 8>to playing like I normally do.

1159
01:04:50.519 --> 01:04:52.639
<v Speaker 1>I don't remember the game, but I was feeling it

1160
01:04:52.679 --> 01:04:55.840
<v Speaker 1>for Darren on the radio, and I remember I was seeing, Yeah,

1161
01:04:55.880 --> 01:04:58.599
<v Speaker 1>he's coming back from the ACL slowly, blah blah blah,

1162
01:04:58.639 --> 01:05:00.119
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know much we're gonna see him on

1163
01:05:00.159 --> 01:05:03.199
<v Speaker 1>your stole second. How was that for you when you

1164
01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:05.199
<v Speaker 1>really got to turn it loose on a base pass.

1165
01:05:05.559 --> 01:05:07.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's a big thing for me.

1166
01:05:08.039 --> 01:05:10.159
<v Speaker 8>I think my base running and my ability to run

1167
01:05:10.199 --> 01:05:12.119
<v Speaker 8>the bases is one of my better tools as a

1168
01:05:12.119 --> 01:05:14.559
<v Speaker 8>baseball player, and I think being able to do that

1169
01:05:14.639 --> 01:05:16.920
<v Speaker 8>again and just feeling the freedom to be able to

1170
01:05:17.000 --> 01:05:19.119
<v Speaker 8>run the bases how I want and being aggressive and

1171
01:05:19.199 --> 01:05:21.440
<v Speaker 8>just not really thinking about my knee too much on

1172
01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:23.119
<v Speaker 8>the basis is a huge thing for me, and I

1173
01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:25.480
<v Speaker 8>think it might help me in some extent where the

1174
01:05:25.519 --> 01:05:28.400
<v Speaker 8>other teams probably know about my injury, probably heard about.

1175
01:05:28.199 --> 01:05:30.519
<v Speaker 3>It, like be any of the season. Probably, Yeah, he's

1176
01:05:30.559 --> 01:05:31.840
<v Speaker 3>most likely probably not gonna steal.

1177
01:05:31.880 --> 01:05:34.400
<v Speaker 8>He came back from ACL recently and I go take

1178
01:05:34.440 --> 01:05:37.360
<v Speaker 8>it off and catch him off guard. So I'm sure

1179
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.440
<v Speaker 8>that might not be the case anymore. I've gotten some

1180
01:05:39.480 --> 01:05:41.800
<v Speaker 8>stolen bases and play a little bit of games, But

1181
01:05:42.800 --> 01:05:45.119
<v Speaker 8>it's just it's awesome to be able to do things

1182
01:05:45.159 --> 01:05:47.360
<v Speaker 8>and just not have anything in my mind about it

1183
01:05:47.400 --> 01:05:48.760
<v Speaker 8>and just be able to play free again.

1184
01:05:49.280 --> 01:05:51.519
<v Speaker 1>And I know you were so hungry to get back

1185
01:05:51.559 --> 01:05:54.320
<v Speaker 1>this your second year here. You knew this team was

1186
01:05:54.360 --> 01:05:56.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna be special, or at least you hoped it would be.

1187
01:05:56.960 --> 01:05:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you knew it would be, so that had to

1188
01:05:59.039 --> 01:06:00.800
<v Speaker 1>be even tougher for you coming back.

1189
01:06:01.119 --> 01:06:03.760
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, definitely, I think that I was just looking forward

1190
01:06:03.760 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 8>to being out there and playing with the guys. I

1191
01:06:05.480 --> 01:06:07.920
<v Speaker 8>got to watch all fall, got to do track lan.

1192
01:06:08.079 --> 01:06:10.880
<v Speaker 8>I got to help out in practice and I saw

1193
01:06:11.079 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 8>a really similar team to last year.

1194
01:06:13.079 --> 01:06:14.400
<v Speaker 3>I saw the group of guys we had.

1195
01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:17.000
<v Speaker 8>I got to really get to know everyone off the field,

1196
01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:18.760
<v Speaker 8>as I couldn't really play much on the field, so

1197
01:06:18.800 --> 01:06:20.119
<v Speaker 8>I did my best to do that.

1198
01:06:20.599 --> 01:06:22.480
<v Speaker 3>And it's just really similar to the guys we had

1199
01:06:22.519 --> 01:06:24.320
<v Speaker 3>last year. We built the culture last.

1200
01:06:24.239 --> 01:06:26.280
<v Speaker 8>Year, we're continuing it this year, and I think that's

1201
01:06:26.800 --> 01:06:29.119
<v Speaker 8>it's the new way of Kentucky baseball now. I think

1202
01:06:29.159 --> 01:06:31.480
<v Speaker 8>that's the big thing for us, is just taking those

1203
01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:34.039
<v Speaker 8>steps to set the tradition and set the standard for

1204
01:06:34.079 --> 01:06:36.480
<v Speaker 8>the future teams coming. And I think that's the biggest

1205
01:06:36.519 --> 01:06:38.239
<v Speaker 8>thing for us, is just to keep doing what we're

1206
01:06:38.280 --> 01:06:39.719
<v Speaker 8>doing and don't change.

1207
01:06:39.840 --> 01:06:43.119
<v Speaker 1>We're talking to Kentucky left field or Ryan Waldschmid. Kind

1208
01:06:43.119 --> 01:06:46.199
<v Speaker 1>of an odd question, but did being forced to step

1209
01:06:46.239 --> 01:06:48.880
<v Speaker 1>away at all help you in any way? You were

1210
01:06:48.880 --> 01:06:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just talking about it and Minch told me that you

1211
01:06:51.320 --> 01:06:54.599
<v Speaker 1>were such a help in the fall, But having to

1212
01:06:54.679 --> 01:06:58.320
<v Speaker 1>sort of look at it from a distance, relatively speaking,

1213
01:06:58.360 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 1>did that help you much at all?

1214
01:06:59.639 --> 01:07:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely.

1215
01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:03.119
<v Speaker 8>I think anytime you can step back and take a

1216
01:07:03.159 --> 01:07:05.440
<v Speaker 8>different perspective to the game, that you don't normally have.

1217
01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:07.480
<v Speaker 8>You can pick up on little things that you wouldn't

1218
01:07:07.960 --> 01:07:11.280
<v Speaker 8>be doing usually. I did a big job with the

1219
01:07:11.320 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 8>TrackMan for the pictures for the Fall, and I think

1220
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:14.559
<v Speaker 8>it helped me as a hitter.

1221
01:07:16.079 --> 01:07:18.039
<v Speaker 3>Track man's pretty much just the.

1222
01:07:18.199 --> 01:07:21.360
<v Speaker 8>V LO spin rate location just tracks all their pitches

1223
01:07:22.000 --> 01:07:24.920
<v Speaker 8>and as a hitter, for me to get on that information,

1224
01:07:24.960 --> 01:07:27.840
<v Speaker 8>to be able to understand that information, I think it really.

1225
01:07:27.639 --> 01:07:29.760
<v Speaker 3>Helped me as a hitter. And knowing the zones, like

1226
01:07:29.800 --> 01:07:30.199
<v Speaker 3>I got.

1227
01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.599
<v Speaker 8>To see umpire strike zone, He's like, okay, a few balls.

1228
01:07:33.320 --> 01:07:34.079
<v Speaker 3>Off, not giving it.

1229
01:07:35.159 --> 01:07:38.760
<v Speaker 8>Just learn like the little things of just umpires, strike zone,

1230
01:07:39.079 --> 01:07:41.920
<v Speaker 8>how pitches move, what pitchers are trying to do, And

1231
01:07:41.960 --> 01:07:43.719
<v Speaker 8>I think that helps me out as a hitter as well.

1232
01:07:43.800 --> 01:07:46.599
<v Speaker 8>And also with that, I think just watching from the side,

1233
01:07:46.639 --> 01:07:49.280
<v Speaker 8>just picking up on little things, picture tendencies.

1234
01:07:49.599 --> 01:07:51.400
<v Speaker 3>I try to do as much as I could as.

1235
01:07:52.159 --> 01:07:54.039
<v Speaker 8>Being in the dugout as I could help me out

1236
01:07:54.039 --> 01:07:55.800
<v Speaker 8>when I run the bases or when I'm hitting. I

1237
01:07:55.840 --> 01:07:58.559
<v Speaker 8>think anytime you can have a different point of view

1238
01:07:58.559 --> 01:08:00.199
<v Speaker 8>as a player, it definitely helps.

1239
01:08:00.320 --> 01:08:03.400
<v Speaker 1>You are really barreling up. It seems just about everything,

1240
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:07.000
<v Speaker 1>even loud foul balls, and it took a little while

1241
01:08:07.880 --> 01:08:11.239
<v Speaker 1>this season to get to that point. But are you

1242
01:08:11.360 --> 01:08:13.199
<v Speaker 1>feeling it about as well as you have because it

1243
01:08:13.239 --> 01:08:13.840
<v Speaker 1>looks that way.

1244
01:08:14.119 --> 01:08:17.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm just really confident right now at the plate,

1245
01:08:17.279 --> 01:08:19.079
<v Speaker 8>I'm trying to get my swing off. I think last

1246
01:08:19.159 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 8>year I was a pretty patient hitter. I got walked

1247
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:24.760
<v Speaker 8>a lot, and I think, yeah, I didn't get hit

1248
01:08:24.760 --> 01:08:28.039
<v Speaker 8>a lot. But I think for me, it's just knowing

1249
01:08:28.079 --> 01:08:29.800
<v Speaker 8>what I can do and knowing my zones. And I

1250
01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:31.640
<v Speaker 8>think when I get more swings off this year, I'm

1251
01:08:31.640 --> 01:08:34.159
<v Speaker 8>putting more balls in play hard, getting more hits, and I'm

1252
01:08:34.119 --> 01:08:36.159
<v Speaker 8>still getting the walks because I mean that when you

1253
01:08:36.279 --> 01:08:38.000
<v Speaker 8>show you can hit it, they're not gonna try and

1254
01:08:38.000 --> 01:08:40.960
<v Speaker 8>throw it there again. So that's for me, it's just

1255
01:08:41.000 --> 01:08:43.640
<v Speaker 8>getting back in the groove. And I don't think coming

1256
01:08:43.680 --> 01:08:46.239
<v Speaker 8>back from being out for seven eight months, you're not

1257
01:08:46.239 --> 01:08:48.800
<v Speaker 8>really gonna get much better by taking pitches and walking.

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01:08:49.199 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 3>You gotta swing away.

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01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:51.960
<v Speaker 8>Everyone talks, you gotta swing your way into the lineup,

1260
01:08:52.000 --> 01:08:54.000
<v Speaker 8>Gotta hit yourself, you gotta keep yourself in the lineup.

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01:08:54.800 --> 01:08:56.279
<v Speaker 3>So I think for me, it's just getting as many

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01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:57.079
<v Speaker 3>swings as possible.

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<v Speaker 8>I know when I came back in the beginning of

1264
01:08:58.600 --> 01:09:01.960
<v Speaker 8>the spring, I told Jamo and coach Couzy coach Mne,

1265
01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:04.359
<v Speaker 8>I was like, hey, like, I know, I have pretty

1266
01:09:04.399 --> 01:09:05.239
<v Speaker 8>good plate discipline.

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01:09:05.239 --> 01:09:06.520
<v Speaker 3>I'm not really trying to work that right now.

1268
01:09:06.520 --> 01:09:08.560
<v Speaker 8>I'm trying to get as many swings in as possible

1269
01:09:08.560 --> 01:09:10.039
<v Speaker 8>before the season starts because I want.

1270
01:09:09.880 --> 01:09:12.520
<v Speaker 3>To be able to be ready for when my time comes.

1271
01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:14.520
<v Speaker 8>And I think that has definitely helped me down this

1272
01:09:14.880 --> 01:09:16.960
<v Speaker 8>stretch for the future and just as we continue to

1273
01:09:17.000 --> 01:09:17.760
<v Speaker 8>go through the season.

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01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:21.239
<v Speaker 1>Mason Moore said that when he was young, he might

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01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:23.880
<v Speaker 1>not have an He's young still, but he might not

1276
01:09:24.000 --> 01:09:27.039
<v Speaker 1>have foreseen this kind of start for you guys. He

1277
01:09:27.079 --> 01:09:30.560
<v Speaker 1>said today, this doesn't surprise me use the same way.

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01:09:31.239 --> 01:09:34.319
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I think coming in last year, I didn't really

1279
01:09:34.319 --> 01:09:36.199
<v Speaker 8>know what to expects my first year in the SEC.

1280
01:09:36.399 --> 01:09:37.800
<v Speaker 3>I came from a small conference.

1281
01:09:37.840 --> 01:09:40.680
<v Speaker 8>Obviously, all the guys here look like they're the best

1282
01:09:40.680 --> 01:09:43.600
<v Speaker 8>players I've seen in a long time, so I didn't

1283
01:09:43.600 --> 01:09:45.439
<v Speaker 8>know what to expect. But when we went through the season,

1284
01:09:45.479 --> 01:09:47.319
<v Speaker 8>I was like, man, we can compete with anyone. I

1285
01:09:47.359 --> 01:09:51.119
<v Speaker 8>think our style of baseball, how we play. Everyone says

1286
01:09:51.119 --> 01:09:53.199
<v Speaker 8>we don't have much power, but I think we've out

1287
01:09:53.199 --> 01:09:56.079
<v Speaker 8>homeered every team we've played so far in our series.

1288
01:09:57.119 --> 01:09:59.039
<v Speaker 8>But we also have the bund We also have the hit.

1289
01:09:59.039 --> 01:10:00.680
<v Speaker 8>We do a great job at two strikes. And I

1290
01:10:00.680 --> 01:10:03.239
<v Speaker 8>think we were talking yesterday and I was like, we're

1291
01:10:03.279 --> 01:10:06.079
<v Speaker 8>just a team. We do it for each other, we

1292
01:10:06.119 --> 01:10:07.600
<v Speaker 8>do it to get on base. We trust the guy

1293
01:10:07.640 --> 01:10:10.319
<v Speaker 8>behind us, We steal bases, we find a way to

1294
01:10:10.359 --> 01:10:13.600
<v Speaker 8>get things done. Whereas other teams maybe stationed the station

1295
01:10:13.800 --> 01:10:15.239
<v Speaker 8>might take them four hits to score.

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01:10:15.520 --> 01:10:17.720
<v Speaker 3>That's not us and that's not our way to baseball.

1297
01:10:17.720 --> 01:10:20.600
<v Speaker 8>And I think even showed Friday night, they bunted against

1298
01:10:20.720 --> 01:10:22.479
<v Speaker 8>us two times in a row and scored a run

1299
01:10:22.479 --> 01:10:25.159
<v Speaker 8>and they were going crazy, And it's like people like

1300
01:10:25.239 --> 01:10:28.319
<v Speaker 8>to criticize our way of baseball, but then they start

1301
01:10:28.399 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 8>implementing it.

1302
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.119
<v Speaker 3>It's pretty good idea, yeah exactly.

1303
01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:33.479
<v Speaker 8>So I think for us, it's just continuing to stick

1304
01:10:33.520 --> 01:10:34.920
<v Speaker 8>with that and just being how we are.

1305
01:10:34.960 --> 01:10:37.279
<v Speaker 3>And I think this year, when I came in, I.

1306
01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:39.039
<v Speaker 8>Was that we had a lot of returners coming back,

1307
01:10:39.039 --> 01:10:40.479
<v Speaker 8>We had a lot of good arms coming back, and

1308
01:10:40.520 --> 01:10:42.640
<v Speaker 8>I thought this was how our season was gonna be going.

1309
01:10:42.680 --> 01:10:43.960
<v Speaker 8>I thought we were going to be a really good

1310
01:10:43.960 --> 01:10:46.279
<v Speaker 8>team again. And I think when you believe that, it

1311
01:10:46.359 --> 01:10:48.960
<v Speaker 8>really helps to actually go out there and get it done.

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<v Speaker 1>We're listening to the best of the Big Blue Insider.

1313
01:10:51.640 --> 01:10:55.560
<v Speaker 1>More to come here on six thirty w LAP. It's

1314
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:58.119
<v Speaker 1>Dick Gabriel. Welcome back to the Best of the Big

1315
01:10:58.159 --> 01:11:02.119
<v Speaker 1>Blue Insider. Two of my conversation with Ryan Walt Schmid,

1316
01:11:02.439 --> 01:11:04.880
<v Speaker 1>wild kat leftfielder who has worked his way all the

1317
01:11:04.880 --> 01:11:07.960
<v Speaker 1>way back from a serious knee injury in the summertime,

1318
01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:10.960
<v Speaker 1>and he's tearing it up right now. He's talking to Darren.

1319
01:11:11.000 --> 01:11:14.439
<v Speaker 1>He brought up a great point about this ballpark and

1320
01:11:14.520 --> 01:11:17.000
<v Speaker 1>your ball club. Two other teams come in here and

1321
01:11:17.039 --> 01:11:20.039
<v Speaker 1>look around, they wonder about how it'll carry if they

1322
01:11:20.039 --> 01:11:23.199
<v Speaker 1>can get out. You guys know how to swing in

1323
01:11:23.279 --> 01:11:26.880
<v Speaker 1>this ballpark. You know you're not gonna be swinging from

1324
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:30.479
<v Speaker 1>the heels. That ain't gonna work. And the way you

1325
01:11:30.560 --> 01:11:33.560
<v Speaker 1>guys do it is the way that works. Obviously, that's

1326
01:11:33.600 --> 01:11:35.039
<v Speaker 1>a huge advantage, isn't it.

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01:11:35.000 --> 01:11:35.760
<v Speaker 3>One hundred percent?

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01:11:35.840 --> 01:11:38.600
<v Speaker 8>I think a lot of swings for other teams are

1329
01:11:38.600 --> 01:11:41.119
<v Speaker 8>tailored for the long ball. They have shorter parks, they

1330
01:11:41.279 --> 01:11:43.279
<v Speaker 8>have upwards swings. They're trying to get the ball in

1331
01:11:43.319 --> 01:11:45.960
<v Speaker 8>their and hit home runs. For us, we come out

1332
01:11:45.960 --> 01:11:49.039
<v Speaker 8>here every day for VP and our swings are tailored,

1333
01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:51.079
<v Speaker 8>hit line drives, and hit the ball hard, hit it low,

1334
01:11:51.359 --> 01:11:53.840
<v Speaker 8>which when you hit it hard like that, you're gonna

1335
01:11:53.840 --> 01:11:55.479
<v Speaker 8>get hits here, you're gonna get hits at the other

1336
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.560
<v Speaker 8>field always plays for how we swing. The other teams

1337
01:11:58.760 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 8>are park might not play for them, and it's not

1338
01:12:01.680 --> 01:12:04.119
<v Speaker 8>anything we did to them. It's just they're trying to

1339
01:12:04.159 --> 01:12:06.439
<v Speaker 8>hit home runs in a place where it's not gonna

1340
01:12:06.439 --> 01:12:10.159
<v Speaker 8>play to your advantage. But I think our swings and

1341
01:12:10.199 --> 01:12:12.520
<v Speaker 8>how we hit the ball it'll play anywhere. And I

1342
01:12:12.560 --> 01:12:14.359
<v Speaker 8>think that's a big part of it is as long

1343
01:12:14.359 --> 01:12:15.800
<v Speaker 8>as we stick with that and we don't try and

1344
01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 8>get away from what we're doing, we'll always have success.

1345
01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:22.960
<v Speaker 1>It translates throughout the league. You guys played down in Texas,

1346
01:12:23.039 --> 01:12:25.520
<v Speaker 1>you hit home runs, you hit doubles. That's gotta be

1347
01:12:25.600 --> 01:12:28.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of a comforting thought. Even if you're behind a

1348
01:12:28.159 --> 01:12:29.920
<v Speaker 1>run or two, you just keep doing what you're doing.

1349
01:12:30.880 --> 01:12:33.359
<v Speaker 8>I think for us, not only can we hit the

1350
01:12:33.399 --> 01:12:34.880
<v Speaker 8>long ball, we also work counts.

1351
01:12:34.880 --> 01:12:37.079
<v Speaker 3>We get pitchers pitch counts up.

1352
01:12:37.079 --> 01:12:38.960
<v Speaker 8>That helps you as a hitter, and the dugout helps

1353
01:12:38.960 --> 01:12:41.600
<v Speaker 8>you as a hitter on deck, you're seeing everything he throws.

1354
01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:43.439
<v Speaker 8>And I think for us, so when you try and

1355
01:12:43.479 --> 01:12:45.520
<v Speaker 8>hit line drives and you stick to your approach the

1356
01:12:45.640 --> 01:12:47.920
<v Speaker 8>entire time, home runs will come by accident. And I

1357
01:12:47.920 --> 01:12:50.279
<v Speaker 8>think that's a big part of our offenses. We just

1358
01:12:50.359 --> 01:12:52.319
<v Speaker 8>try and hit the ball hard, and if you elevated

1359
01:12:52.359 --> 01:12:54.800
<v Speaker 8>and hit a home run, you weren't necessarily trying to

1360
01:12:54.840 --> 01:12:57.319
<v Speaker 8>do that. But when you have teams that just keep

1361
01:12:57.399 --> 01:12:59.840
<v Speaker 8>trying to hit home runs and take some four hits

1362
01:12:59.840 --> 01:13:02.600
<v Speaker 8>to score, it's really hard to come back from the game.

1363
01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:04.600
<v Speaker 8>Like today, As soon as we had that five run lead,

1364
01:13:05.079 --> 01:13:07.520
<v Speaker 8>I was like, man, Mason's throwing sinkers in there. They're

1365
01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:09.199
<v Speaker 8>swinging to hit the ball in the air. I don't

1366
01:13:09.399 --> 01:13:11.239
<v Speaker 8>know how much success they're going to get today.

1367
01:13:11.920 --> 01:13:15.079
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned Mason, You guys, I think clearly, well at

1368
01:13:15.119 --> 01:13:20.000
<v Speaker 1>least seven and zero the best Sunday starter. You've flip

1369
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:21.279
<v Speaker 1>flopped a little bit on Friday.

1370
01:13:21.279 --> 01:13:22.279
<v Speaker 3>It has been successful.

1371
01:13:22.560 --> 01:13:27.479
<v Speaker 1>Dom comes through the portal and all American. Yeah, you

1372
01:13:27.560 --> 01:13:29.920
<v Speaker 1>mentioned that you thought your pitching would be as good

1373
01:13:29.960 --> 01:13:33.760
<v Speaker 1>or better. Your bullpen has been solid. I mean, you know,

1374
01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:36.119
<v Speaker 1>you just look like you got all the elements.

1375
01:13:36.119 --> 01:13:38.840
<v Speaker 8>It takes one hundred percent, and I think that the

1376
01:13:38.840 --> 01:13:42.000
<v Speaker 8>more their success continues to happen, the more confident they're

1377
01:13:42.039 --> 01:13:43.560
<v Speaker 8>going to get, and the more it's just gonna build

1378
01:13:43.560 --> 01:13:46.399
<v Speaker 8>for us. I think we use five arms this weekend

1379
01:13:46.560 --> 01:13:49.319
<v Speaker 8>in total, and that's crazy to think when you have

1380
01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:52.560
<v Speaker 8>people like Hags that still hasn't gotten much work coming

1381
01:13:52.600 --> 01:13:56.560
<v Speaker 8>back from injury buyers, hummele all these guys. Cooper O'Brien

1382
01:13:56.560 --> 01:13:59.039
<v Speaker 8>didn't throw this weekend and he was leading in appearances

1383
01:13:59.079 --> 01:14:02.760
<v Speaker 8>for a while. I just think it's awesome to see

1384
01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:05.560
<v Speaker 8>that our starters can do that and go seven innings.

1385
01:14:05.560 --> 01:14:07.039
<v Speaker 8>Because when you can do that and you have a

1386
01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:10.199
<v Speaker 8>bullpen that'll come in and shut it down, I think

1387
01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:12.319
<v Speaker 8>it's really hard to beat us. And I think it's

1388
01:14:12.399 --> 01:14:14.760
<v Speaker 8>just awesome to see all these guys take that next

1389
01:14:14.800 --> 01:14:16.079
<v Speaker 8>step that I knew they had.

1390
01:14:15.920 --> 01:14:18.000
<v Speaker 3>In them, and it just just.

1391
01:14:17.960 --> 01:14:20.640
<v Speaker 8>Took some confidence and just a little bit of success

1392
01:14:20.720 --> 01:14:21.840
<v Speaker 8>to have them really show it.

1393
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:23.399
<v Speaker 3>And I think it's awesome for those guys.

1394
01:14:23.720 --> 01:14:26.600
<v Speaker 1>It took the pollsters a little while a little extra

1395
01:14:26.720 --> 01:14:30.079
<v Speaker 1>time to take notice of you, even though you you

1396
01:14:30.359 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 1>swept a really good Georgia team and now you're finally

1397
01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:38.079
<v Speaker 1>moving up at the polls, but people who wonder still

1398
01:14:38.359 --> 01:14:41.680
<v Speaker 1>what the heck happened with Kennesaw and Nick said, you

1399
01:14:41.720 --> 01:14:44.560
<v Speaker 1>guys just weren't yourselves. But I got to think, in hindsight,

1400
01:14:44.680 --> 01:14:45.640
<v Speaker 1>that's a great lesson.

1401
01:14:46.119 --> 01:14:50.039
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, definitely, I've always believed that you were.

1402
01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:50.880
<v Speaker 3>This is a long haul.

1403
01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:53.600
<v Speaker 8>We're going to play some great teams, and sometimes it's

1404
01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:55.920
<v Speaker 8>good to just get that little fire and you it's

1405
01:14:55.920 --> 01:14:58.119
<v Speaker 8>good to lose a game or two just to just

1406
01:14:58.159 --> 01:14:59.720
<v Speaker 8>to know you're a human and just to know you're

1407
01:14:59.760 --> 01:15:01.760
<v Speaker 8>back down to earth. I mean, some teams that don't

1408
01:15:01.760 --> 01:15:04.039
<v Speaker 8>ever have to go through adversity, when you face it

1409
01:15:04.119 --> 01:15:06.119
<v Speaker 8>later in the season, it takes you down. You're done,

1410
01:15:06.199 --> 01:15:08.039
<v Speaker 8>your season's over. If you have a team that just

1411
01:15:08.119 --> 01:15:12.000
<v Speaker 8>cruises through the entire season and a postseason comes around

1412
01:15:12.039 --> 01:15:14.800
<v Speaker 8>and then you finally face some adversity, it's hard. But

1413
01:15:14.880 --> 01:15:16.279
<v Speaker 8>when you get to see it early and then you

1414
01:15:16.319 --> 01:15:17.840
<v Speaker 8>get to build from it, learn from it.

1415
01:15:18.319 --> 01:15:20.800
<v Speaker 3>I know Coach always talks about.

1416
01:15:20.640 --> 01:15:23.159
<v Speaker 8>Losing and how you learn from it, and I think

1417
01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:24.199
<v Speaker 8>that was a big thing for us.

1418
01:15:24.199 --> 01:15:26.520
<v Speaker 3>We really learned that we needed to be ourselves again

1419
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:26.840
<v Speaker 3>and not.

1420
01:15:26.800 --> 01:15:28.840
<v Speaker 8>Try and do too much. And also I give credit

1421
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:30.640
<v Speaker 8>to that team. They played really well that weekend.

1422
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:31.439
<v Speaker 3>They hit the ball.

1423
01:15:32.239 --> 01:15:33.119
<v Speaker 1>They're shortstop.

1424
01:15:33.880 --> 01:15:36.279
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, they had good defense, good pitching, and they hit

1425
01:15:36.319 --> 01:15:39.359
<v Speaker 8>the ball. I mean it's hard teams we usually manipulated.

1426
01:15:39.359 --> 01:15:40.960
<v Speaker 8>We were saying teams are trying to hit home runs,

1427
01:15:41.000 --> 01:15:42.439
<v Speaker 8>and they really didn't try and do that. They just

1428
01:15:42.520 --> 01:15:45.199
<v Speaker 8>hit line drives and they were getting hits. And sometimes

1429
01:15:45.199 --> 01:15:45.760
<v Speaker 8>you just lose.

1430
01:15:45.800 --> 01:15:48.800
<v Speaker 3>They beat you. But I think it really gave us

1431
01:15:48.840 --> 01:15:49.840
<v Speaker 3>some fire to be better.

1432
01:15:50.439 --> 01:15:52.560
<v Speaker 1>We'll let you go with this. You got a kind

1433
01:15:52.600 --> 01:15:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of an odd week coming up with the game in

1434
01:15:55.880 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Birmingham and then the Thursday Saturday series. But I got

1435
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:01.680
<v Speaker 1>to think the closeness to this team, and I've traveled

1436
01:16:01.680 --> 01:16:04.479
<v Speaker 1>with you guys as you know, uh, not an issue

1437
01:16:04.479 --> 01:16:06.399
<v Speaker 1>really and maybe a little more fun.

1438
01:16:06.640 --> 01:16:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1439
01:16:06.920 --> 01:16:09.520
<v Speaker 8>I definitely think the way our our team has developed

1440
01:16:09.520 --> 01:16:11.640
<v Speaker 8>that dugout atmosphere too.

1441
01:16:11.439 --> 01:16:15.680
<v Speaker 3>Recently loves a dugout. I love it. I mean I'm

1442
01:16:15.760 --> 01:16:18.119
<v Speaker 3>laughing in the outfield sometimes at these guys. I can

1443
01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:20.960
<v Speaker 3>hear it at the play. It's just incredible.

1444
01:16:21.039 --> 01:16:23.640
<v Speaker 8>I think that these the energy that we bring doesn't

1445
01:16:23.640 --> 01:16:27.439
<v Speaker 8>make any away series feel any different thing we're playing

1446
01:16:27.479 --> 01:16:30.039
<v Speaker 8>at home. I think they really get involved, and they

1447
01:16:30.119 --> 01:16:32.560
<v Speaker 8>keep us involved, and it really keeps the players locked.

1448
01:16:32.359 --> 01:16:35.359
<v Speaker 1>In, and that helped make Oxford your ballpark, didn't it

1449
01:16:35.399 --> 01:16:36.159
<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent?

1450
01:16:36.239 --> 01:16:38.399
<v Speaker 8>I mean I think Friday night they said something around

1451
01:16:38.479 --> 01:16:41.319
<v Speaker 8>eight thousand fans, and I really felt like there was

1452
01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:44.479
<v Speaker 8>nobody cheering against us. The way the dugout was talking,

1453
01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:47.279
<v Speaker 8>the way we were playing is like I didn't even

1454
01:16:47.319 --> 01:16:48.720
<v Speaker 8>notice it had eight thousand fans there.

1455
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 3>It really didn't phase us at all.

1456
01:16:50.119 --> 01:16:53.119
<v Speaker 8>And I think that's a huge, huge advantage going into

1457
01:16:53.159 --> 01:16:54.920
<v Speaker 8>some of these parks and some of these places and

1458
01:16:55.000 --> 01:16:57.279
<v Speaker 8>into the postseason, because you're not always going to be

1459
01:16:57.279 --> 01:16:59.800
<v Speaker 8>playing at home. So I think when we can develop

1460
01:16:59.840 --> 01:17:02.359
<v Speaker 8>that feeling of being at home, it's really going to

1461
01:17:02.399 --> 01:17:03.319
<v Speaker 8>help us in the long run.

1462
01:17:03.520 --> 01:17:06.640
<v Speaker 1>We've signed a lot of autographs. I appreciate your time

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<v Speaker 1>and good luck. I know you'll have fun. And congratulations

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<v Speaker 1>on the.

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<v Speaker 3>Way you're hitting the ball, Yes, sir, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 8>Hopefully we keep going and keep winning some games and

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<v Speaker 8>I keep hitting them hard.

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<v Speaker 1>That's Ryan Walschmid, and he might be hitting the ball

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<v Speaker 1>better than anybody right now for this Kentucky team. He's

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<v Speaker 1>hitting three ten, but in conference play against the best

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<v Speaker 1>pitchers in America. He's batting three fifty five with six doubles.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got two of his three home runs, not a

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<v Speaker 1>home run hitter, but two of us three against SEC pitching.

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<v Speaker 1>And again, this is a guy who got off to

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<v Speaker 1>the slow start because of injury and now is just

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<v Speaker 1>destroying Southeastern Conference pitching. Everything he hits, it just seems

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<v Speaker 1>as a rocket, even the foul balls coming off his bat.

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<v Speaker 1>He has three three hit games, four two hit games,

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<v Speaker 1>so just piling up base hits in bunches, thirteen steals

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<v Speaker 1>officially caught four times, but down in round Rock. In

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<v Speaker 1>one of those games, he stole third base easily, but

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<v Speaker 1>they called batter interference on Devin Burks at the plate,

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<v Speaker 1>which meant that the base runner stealing during that play

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<v Speaker 1>is also out. Devin struck out and they called Waldi

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<v Speaker 1>out at third base, so they really took a stolen

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<v Speaker 1>base away from him. That's all for now, Back tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 1>live on tape in color. You're on the Big Moon, Sider.

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<v Speaker 1>That's it. Good night from the garage in Lexington and

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<v Speaker 1>so SA
