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<v Speaker 1>Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony

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<v Speaker 1>Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>How's it going, Tony.

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<v Speaker 3>We are most of the way through day two of

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<v Speaker 3>Big ten media days. Most people have gone home already,

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<v Speaker 3>still plenty to talk about, still plenty to do. It

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<v Speaker 3>was Ohio State Day, which is always after a long,

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<v Speaker 3>long off season of nothing. It's like, boy, they are

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<v Speaker 3>really making us smoke the whole pack, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Then and then boy, by the time people are listening

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<v Speaker 1>or watching this, fall camp is a week away, maybe less,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on when you get your podcasts and your youtubees

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<v Speaker 1>and whatnot. So let's recap some of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>we learned from Julian's saying. Number one for me, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about Arthur Smith and the relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>he's building there. Ryan Day, earlier in the day, very

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<v Speaker 1>very earlier in the day, said that Art Smith has

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<v Speaker 1>been putting a lot on Julian's plate and that Julians

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<v Speaker 1>just responded, well, I asked him like, I asked, Julian,

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<v Speaker 1>what is that said? Now he can go to the

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<v Speaker 1>line OF's scrimmage with more than one play and then

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, decide which one to go with based

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<v Speaker 1>on the alignment from a defense and things of that nature.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, you know, it's it's great, but you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be accurate or else you lose the privilege.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, I wanted to talk to Ryande a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit more about that, didn't get a chance to,

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<v Speaker 1>but because I don't know how often that was the

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<v Speaker 1>case for Julian saying surely every time there's an audible Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but this is a choose your own adventure type of thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Right well, and Brian Day talked about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>when you're going to the line and you're changing plays

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<v Speaker 3>and you're you know, with tempo, and you huffle the

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<v Speaker 3>line and then adjusting, everyone looked to the sideline and

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<v Speaker 3>that would put give the defense a chance to put

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<v Speaker 3>themselves in, you know, the correct defense to because they have.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen what you were doing.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a chance to sort of swing that the

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<v Speaker 3>other way where you go to the line and unless

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<v Speaker 3>the defense, unless the defense is able to really disguise

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<v Speaker 3>what they're able to do what they're trying to do,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can do that obviously to a certain extent,

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<v Speaker 3>but not you know, you see the personnel package, you

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<v Speaker 3>see the basic the basic alignment, you can sort of

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<v Speaker 3>get yourself Okay, I see what you're doing. Now we

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<v Speaker 3>can get ourselves into this and and sort of make

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<v Speaker 3>that adjustment.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's a lot to put on a guy's shoulders.

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<v Speaker 3>And last year, as a red shirt freshman, first year starter,

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume, you know that they aren't ever going

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<v Speaker 3>to say, you know, he had that right, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>twenty seven percent of the time or whatever. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things that as a first year starter,

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<v Speaker 3>as a redchert freshman, that would be a lot to

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<v Speaker 3>put on a guy's shoulders. Now, Okay, you've seen you've

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<v Speaker 3>kind of gone through the full season now and you've

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<v Speaker 3>had another off season where it's not everything is not

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<v Speaker 3>all brand new to you. So I think that that's

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<v Speaker 3>probably a good second season.

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<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and it's something that you know, Julian has

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<v Speaker 1>been wanting more and more, even last year he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>more and more. But it's still it's a process and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to move it too quickly. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I did ask him, is it extra work? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of work? Is it hard work? It's like

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's work, but it's not extra because one Arthur

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<v Speaker 1>Smith's a very good teacher, which reminded me of all

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<v Speaker 1>of the things they used to say about or still

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<v Speaker 1>say about Matt Patricia is that he teaches the way

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<v Speaker 1>he teaches, you learn so much, so quickly, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a completely different world than what they've been used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Arthur Smith. Here, you're like, you're the Ohio State quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>You're putting in extra work anyway, so right straight is

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<v Speaker 1>the minimum? Yeah, and then you're gonna put in more

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<v Speaker 1>after that. But yeah, like everything seems to be going there.

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<v Speaker 1>Well there, and if you have a returning starting quarterback right, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is his third if you don't make the most

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<v Speaker 1>of it, you're wasting time.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and he Day talked about that, and I remember

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<v Speaker 3>thinking that can't be right, but it is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's justin fields C J.

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<v Speaker 3>Stroud and Julian Zan because it feels like Day's been

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<v Speaker 3>here forever. But it's and that goes back to twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 3>That's not just as head coach, that's twenty seventeen as well,

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<v Speaker 3>And so yeah, that's that's a real luxury at this

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<v Speaker 3>point to have a I think it was it was

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<v Speaker 2>Fleck talked about the fact that.

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<v Speaker 3>They had He was the only school in like the

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<v Speaker 3>entire country that had the head coach, both coordinators and

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<v Speaker 3>the starting quarterback returning, which you know, that's a sure

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<v Speaker 3>sign of modern football that the one school in the

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<v Speaker 3>nation has that to have, you know, to have Arthur Smith.

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<v Speaker 3>If Arthur Smith is the change and you're bringing in

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<v Speaker 3>a former NFL head coach to be your coordinator, that

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<v Speaker 3>is a worthy.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that's a worthy change.

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<v Speaker 3>But to have the head coach who's obviously specializes in

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<v Speaker 3>that set of the ball and a quarterback who now

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<v Speaker 3>has returned and this is going to probably still be

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<v Speaker 3>largely the Ryan Day offense with some Arthur Smith influence,

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<v Speaker 3>would be my guest, especially in the run game. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is you know that you have such a benefit

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<v Speaker 3>to have a guy back and not have everything be

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<v Speaker 3>the first time.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you consider, Okay, urban Meyer, he had two returning starters,

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<v Speaker 1>or do you consider him having three when you're throwing

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<v Speaker 1>Cardell Jones there. I don't know that I really consider

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<v Speaker 1>that three. But that's also the product of having a

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<v Speaker 1>three year starter followed by a three year starter, a

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<v Speaker 1>four year starter, I guess, two year starter, four year starter,

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<v Speaker 1>returning starter. Julian Sane was asked, do you feel more

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility because you are a returning starter. He's like, if

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<v Speaker 1>you're the Ohio State quarterback, the starting quarterback, the responsibility

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<v Speaker 1>is already there. It doesn't matter how long you've been there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same responsibility. You got to go Michigan, you

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<v Speaker 1>get he didn't say Michigan, but you know, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what all what comes with all of that, And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter if your first time you're out there

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<v Speaker 1>the last time you're out there. The responsibility is to

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<v Speaker 1>win and be the Ohio State quarterback, which.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one of the more.

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<v Speaker 1>Notable positions in the sport and at Ohio State.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and I think this was I think that was

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<v Speaker 3>a Jim Trestle line that the you know, the most

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<v Speaker 3>important the two most important people in the state are

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<v Speaker 3>the governor and the starting quarterback at Ohio State. And

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<v Speaker 3>that's it's one of those things it's like what what

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<v Speaker 3>what ridiculous overstatement?

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<v Speaker 2>And then you sort of stop and you think.

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<v Speaker 3>About your going Well, I mean the head coach of

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<v Speaker 3>Ohio State's probably in that conversation would lose yeah right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>Well you look at the list of the highest paid

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<v Speaker 3>state employees and it's not it.

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't the governor. No.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and anyways, those are all protected by the non

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<v Speaker 1>disclosure agreements right now. Yeah, they look in his eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>It's something that Ryan Day talked about with Juliet saying,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can see it. I think you said it

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of times. And so Julian talked about that,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like, well, there's just he's got more intensity

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<v Speaker 1>practice and workouts and just the way he's attacking all

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<v Speaker 1>of the goals and the way he wants to improve

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<v Speaker 1>his skill set. And he knows what people have critiqued

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<v Speaker 1>him about, you know, not that he's on he said,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not on Twitter. So it's not the fringe that

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<v Speaker 1>he knows what they're saying. It's just there's feedback. There's

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<v Speaker 1>he knows he saw the games, he knows where he

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<v Speaker 1>fell short, he knows what he could have done more of.

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<v Speaker 1>And so he's that intensity has also made him bigger

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<v Speaker 1>and stronger because of the workouts, and he said it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really inform him on when to leave the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>like he or when to stay in. No longer to

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<v Speaker 1>staying like I'm bigger and stronger, I can stay in longer.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, but maybe I can get out of more

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<v Speaker 1>sacks than I couldn't before because he's bigger and stronger.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, the I don't want to say he's got

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<v Speaker 1>like the eye of the tiger or that his ears

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I was gonna say that that role is

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<v Speaker 2>spoken for. You can't. You cannot do Thursday night football, no,

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<v Speaker 2>stop asking.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I always the look in the eye thing is

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<v Speaker 3>one of those things that I always kind of like,

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<v Speaker 3>are we really, like, really are we doing this? That

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<v Speaker 3>that to me doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot.

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<v Speaker 3>When Jeremiah Smith talks about and we'll probably talk about

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<v Speaker 3>this more on the Jermyristmas Show, but when Jeremiah Smith

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<v Speaker 3>talks about the fact that he and Julian Saying have

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<v Speaker 3>been kind of paired up in workouts and that Julian

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<v Speaker 3>Saying is like really putting in the work. And Jeremi

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<v Speaker 3>Smith was the iron but first true freshman ever to

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<v Speaker 3>be an iron back eye, So Jeremiah Smith knows what

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<v Speaker 3>it takes to be successful and to really really put

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<v Speaker 3>in the work in the weight room. When he says, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been working specifically with him, and I've been specifically

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<v Speaker 3>seeing with him that that means more to me than

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<v Speaker 3>look in the eye.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, look in the eye.

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<v Speaker 3>Look in the eye is also probably a shorthand for

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<v Speaker 3>intensity a little bit, which in this case, Yeah, this

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<v Speaker 3>is a contract year potentially for for these guys, and

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<v Speaker 3>for someone like Julian saying you're not you're not doing

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<v Speaker 3>these things because you're addressing the people you know, you're

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to show these guys on Twitter that's not

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<v Speaker 3>you don't care about that you care about. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>he wasn't hearing it from people on Twitter. He was

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<v Speaker 3>hearing it from the people in the film room. Probably

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<v Speaker 3>here's you know, here's what you did wrong, Here's what

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<v Speaker 3>you need, Here's where you need to get better. And

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<v Speaker 3>you're probably having at least some conversations or indirect conversations

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<v Speaker 3>with the NFL folks like, Okay, where do you need

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<v Speaker 3>to improve? And Ryan Day can maybe sort of just

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<v Speaker 3>be the proxy there where Ryan Day, Ryan Day, Arthur Smith,

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<v Speaker 3>Matt Patricia spent some.

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<v Speaker 2>Time in the NFL. As you were calling, You've.

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<v Speaker 3>Got guys who are going to be able to say look,

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<v Speaker 3>we've we've been in the NFL for years and years

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<v Speaker 3>and years. We've succeeded in the NFL. So what do

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<v Speaker 3>you need to do to get better? Here's the list

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<v Speaker 3>of stuff to get better. And you used to Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>well I'll start working on that list.

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<v Speaker 1>And Arthur Smith has brand new eyes yeah to whatever

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<v Speaker 1>Julian has done. And it's Ryan Dan seeing it for years,

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<v Speaker 1>so maybe some of it just you kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>past it, or it's like this is not new, so

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<v Speaker 1>it does does it register? Whereas everything now is new

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<v Speaker 1>for Arthur Smith and it's like why why this? Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do this, you know, just just simple things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>One other thing he mentioned, you said, Brandon Innis is

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a great year. He's very important to the team.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's like, are you sure you're not on Twitter?

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<v Speaker 1>Because there, you know, we know Brandon Innis gets a

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<v Speaker 1>Third down, you throwing the ball, he's going to catch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Fourth down, you throw the ball, he's gonna catch it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the last thing I wanted to mention is

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<v Speaker 1>the becoming more of a vocal leader. And that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that Mick Murratty challenged him with. And it's also something

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<v Speaker 1>that Ryan Day talked about with the quarterbacks and the workouts,

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<v Speaker 1>where it's the quarterbacks who are like calling out the

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<v Speaker 1>to like yell it out and get everybody going, just

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<v Speaker 1>so that they get used to speaking in front of

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<v Speaker 1>And as they said, it's like it's maybe a little

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<v Speaker 1>guys are with you seeing you go through all of this,

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<v Speaker 1>get used to, you know, having that voice in their

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<v Speaker 1>ear as well well.

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<v Speaker 3>And also, I mean there's probably a little bit of well,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be able to project if you are

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<v Speaker 3>a quarterback and you have road games at Texas and

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<v Speaker 3>USC and Iowa and Nebraska and Indiana on the schedule

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<v Speaker 3>this year, you're going to have to be loud because

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to be playing in some loud environments. So

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to you have to be you have to

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<v Speaker 3>be the voice where you can be loud, but also

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<v Speaker 3>you have to be the voice that your teammates are

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<v Speaker 3>listening for.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So those are some thoughts from Julian's saying. We've got

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<v Speaker 2>Let out.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing away the no one tell me I wish you

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<v Speaker 1>then nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you can tell me that's the moor, it's all right.

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<v Speaker 3>We can steal currently tonight
