Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Buckeye Weekly Podcast. I'm Tony
Speaker 1: Gerdaman here as always with Tom or Tom.
Speaker 2: How's it going, Tony.
Speaker 3: We are most of the way through day two of
Speaker 3: Big ten media days. Most people have gone home already,
Speaker 3: still plenty to talk about, still plenty to do. It
Speaker 3: was Ohio State Day, which is always after a long,
Speaker 3: long off season of nothing. It's like, boy, they are
Speaker 3: really making us smoke the whole pack, and.
Speaker 1: Then and then boy, by the time people are listening
Speaker 1: or watching this, fall camp is a week away, maybe less,
Speaker 1: depending on when you get your podcasts and your youtubees
Speaker 1: and whatnot. So let's recap some of the things that
Speaker 1: we learned from Julian's saying. Number one for me, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about Arthur Smith and the relationship that
Speaker 1: he's building there. Ryan Day, earlier in the day, very
Speaker 1: very earlier in the day, said that Art Smith has
Speaker 1: been putting a lot on Julian's plate and that Julians
Speaker 1: just responded, well, I asked him like, I asked, Julian,
Speaker 1: what is that said? Now he can go to the
Speaker 1: line OF's scrimmage with more than one play and then
Speaker 1: what you know, decide which one to go with based
Speaker 1: on the alignment from a defense and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: And he said, you know, it's it's great, but you
Speaker 1: have to be accurate or else you lose the privilege.
Speaker 1: And you know, I wanted to talk to Ryande a
Speaker 1: little bit more about that, didn't get a chance to,
Speaker 1: but because I don't know how often that was the
Speaker 1: case for Julian saying surely every time there's an audible Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this is a choose your own adventure type of thing.
Speaker 3: Right well, and Brian Day talked about the fact that
Speaker 3: when you're going to the line and you're changing plays
Speaker 3: and you're you know, with tempo, and you huffle the
Speaker 3: line and then adjusting, everyone looked to the sideline and
Speaker 3: that would put give the defense a chance to put
Speaker 3: themselves in, you know, the correct defense to because they have.
Speaker 2: Seen what you were doing.
Speaker 3: This is a chance to sort of swing that the
Speaker 3: other way where you go to the line and unless
Speaker 3: the defense, unless the defense is able to really disguise
Speaker 3: what they're able to do what they're trying to do,
Speaker 3: and you can do that obviously to a certain extent,
Speaker 3: but not you know, you see the personnel package, you
Speaker 3: see the basic the basic alignment, you can sort of
Speaker 3: get yourself Okay, I see what you're doing. Now we
Speaker 3: can get ourselves into this and and sort of make
Speaker 3: that adjustment.
Speaker 2: But that's a lot to put on a guy's shoulders.
Speaker 3: And last year, as a red shirt freshman, first year starter,
Speaker 3: I would assume, you know that they aren't ever going
Speaker 3: to say, you know, he had that right, you know,
Speaker 3: twenty seven percent of the time or whatever. But that's
Speaker 3: one of those things that as a first year starter,
Speaker 3: as a redchert freshman, that would be a lot to
Speaker 3: put on a guy's shoulders. Now, Okay, you've seen you've
Speaker 3: kind of gone through the full season now and you've
Speaker 3: had another off season where it's not everything is not
Speaker 3: all brand new to you. So I think that that's
Speaker 3: probably a good second season.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and it's something that you know, Julian has
Speaker 1: been wanting more and more, even last year he wanted
Speaker 1: more and more. But it's still it's a process and
Speaker 1: you don't want to move it too quickly. And so
Speaker 1: I did ask him, is it extra work? Is it
Speaker 1: a lot of work? Is it hard work? It's like
Speaker 1: it's it's work, but it's not extra because one Arthur
Speaker 1: Smith's a very good teacher, which reminded me of all
Speaker 1: of the things they used to say about or still
Speaker 1: say about Matt Patricia is that he teaches the way
Speaker 1: he teaches, you learn so much, so quickly, and it's
Speaker 1: just a completely different world than what they've been used to.
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith. Here, you're like, you're the Ohio State quarterback.
Speaker 1: You're putting in extra work anyway, so right straight is
Speaker 1: the minimum? Yeah, and then you're gonna put in more
Speaker 1: after that. But yeah, like everything seems to be going there.
Speaker 1: Well there, and if you have a returning starting quarterback right, hey,
Speaker 1: this is his third if you don't make the most
Speaker 1: of it, you're wasting time.
Speaker 3: Well and he Day talked about that, and I remember
Speaker 3: thinking that can't be right, but it is.
Speaker 2: It's justin fields C J.
Speaker 3: Stroud and Julian Zan because it feels like Day's been
Speaker 3: here forever. But it's and that goes back to twenty seventeen.
Speaker 3: That's not just as head coach, that's twenty seventeen as well,
Speaker 3: And so yeah, that's that's a real luxury at this
Speaker 3: point to have a I think it was it was
Speaker 3: p J.
Speaker 2: Fleck talked about the fact that.
Speaker 3: They had He was the only school in like the
Speaker 3: entire country that had the head coach, both coordinators and
Speaker 3: the starting quarterback returning, which you know, that's a sure
Speaker 3: sign of modern football that the one school in the
Speaker 3: nation has that to have, you know, to have Arthur Smith.
Speaker 3: If Arthur Smith is the change and you're bringing in
Speaker 3: a former NFL head coach to be your coordinator, that
Speaker 3: is a worthy.
Speaker 2: You know, that's a worthy change.
Speaker 3: But to have the head coach who's obviously specializes in
Speaker 3: that set of the ball and a quarterback who now
Speaker 3: has returned and this is going to probably still be
Speaker 3: largely the Ryan Day offense with some Arthur Smith influence,
Speaker 3: would be my guest, especially in the run game. But
Speaker 3: this is you know that you have such a benefit
Speaker 3: to have a guy back and not have everything be
Speaker 3: the first time.
Speaker 1: Would you consider, Okay, urban Meyer, he had two returning starters,
Speaker 1: or do you consider him having three when you're throwing
Speaker 1: Cardell Jones there. I don't know that I really consider
Speaker 1: that three. But that's also the product of having a
Speaker 1: three year starter followed by a three year starter, a
Speaker 1: four year starter, I guess, two year starter, four year starter,
Speaker 1: returning starter. Julian Sane was asked, do you feel more
Speaker 1: responsibility because you are a returning starter. He's like, if
Speaker 1: you're the Ohio State quarterback, the starting quarterback, the responsibility
Speaker 1: is already there. It doesn't matter how long you've been there.
Speaker 1: It's the same responsibility. You got to go Michigan, you
Speaker 1: get he didn't say Michigan, but you know, you know
Speaker 1: what all what comes with all of that, And it's like,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if your first time you're out there
Speaker 1: the last time you're out there. The responsibility is to
Speaker 1: win and be the Ohio State quarterback, which.
Speaker 2: Is one of the more.
Speaker 1: Notable positions in the sport and at Ohio State.
Speaker 3: Well, and I think this was I think that was
Speaker 3: a Jim Trestle line that the you know, the most
Speaker 3: important the two most important people in the state are
Speaker 3: the governor and the starting quarterback at Ohio State. And
Speaker 3: that's it's one of those things it's like what what
Speaker 3: what ridiculous overstatement?
Speaker 2: And then you sort of stop and you think.
Speaker 3: About your going Well, I mean the head coach of
Speaker 3: Ohio State's probably in that conversation would lose yeah right, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: Well you look at the list of the highest paid
Speaker 3: state employees and it's not it.
Speaker 2: Ain't the governor. No.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and anyways, those are all protected by the non
Speaker 1: disclosure agreements right now. Yeah, they look in his eyes.
Speaker 1: It's something that Ryan Day talked about with Juliet saying,
Speaker 1: like you can see it. I think you said it
Speaker 1: a couple of times. And so Julian talked about that,
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, there's just he's got more intensity
Speaker 1: practice and workouts and just the way he's attacking all
Speaker 1: of the goals and the way he wants to improve
Speaker 1: his skill set. And he knows what people have critiqued
Speaker 1: him about, you know, not that he's on he said,
Speaker 1: he's not on Twitter. So it's not the fringe that
Speaker 1: he knows what they're saying. It's just there's feedback. There's
Speaker 1: he knows he saw the games, he knows where he
Speaker 1: fell short, he knows what he could have done more of.
Speaker 1: And so he's that intensity has also made him bigger
Speaker 1: and stronger because of the workouts, and he said it
Speaker 1: doesn't really inform him on when to leave the pocket
Speaker 1: like he or when to stay in. No longer to
Speaker 1: staying like I'm bigger and stronger, I can stay in longer.
Speaker 1: He's like, but maybe I can get out of more
Speaker 1: sacks than I couldn't before because he's bigger and stronger.
Speaker 1: But yes, the I don't want to say he's got
Speaker 1: like the eye of the tiger or that his ears
Speaker 1: are pinned back or anything like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I was gonna say that that role is
Speaker 2: spoken for. You can't. You cannot do Thursday night football, no,
Speaker 2: stop asking.
Speaker 3: It's I always the look in the eye thing is
Speaker 3: one of those things that I always kind of like,
Speaker 3: are we really, like, really are we doing this? That
Speaker 3: that to me doesn't mean a whole heck of a lot.
Speaker 3: When Jeremiah Smith talks about and we'll probably talk about
Speaker 3: this more on the Jermyristmas Show, but when Jeremiah Smith
Speaker 3: talks about the fact that he and Julian Saying have
Speaker 3: been kind of paired up in workouts and that Julian
Speaker 3: Saying is like really putting in the work. And Jeremi
Speaker 3: Smith was the iron but first true freshman ever to
Speaker 3: be an iron back eye, So Jeremiah Smith knows what
Speaker 3: it takes to be successful and to really really put
Speaker 3: in the work in the weight room. When he says, Yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been working specifically with him, and I've been specifically
Speaker 3: seeing with him that that means more to me than
Speaker 3: look in the eye.
Speaker 2: But you know, look in the eye.
Speaker 3: Look in the eye is also probably a shorthand for
Speaker 3: intensity a little bit, which in this case, Yeah, this
Speaker 3: is a contract year potentially for for these guys, and
Speaker 3: for someone like Julian saying you're not you're not doing
Speaker 3: these things because you're addressing the people you know, you're
Speaker 3: I'm going to show these guys on Twitter that's not
Speaker 3: you don't care about that you care about. You know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't hearing it from people on Twitter. He was
Speaker 3: hearing it from the people in the film room. Probably
Speaker 3: here's you know, here's what you did wrong, Here's what
Speaker 3: you need, Here's where you need to get better. And
Speaker 3: you're probably having at least some conversations or indirect conversations
Speaker 3: with the NFL folks like, Okay, where do you need
Speaker 3: to improve? And Ryan Day can maybe sort of just
Speaker 3: be the proxy there where Ryan Day, Ryan Day, Arthur Smith,
Speaker 3: Matt Patricia spent some.
Speaker 2: Time in the NFL. As you were calling, You've.
Speaker 3: Got guys who are going to be able to say look,
Speaker 3: we've we've been in the NFL for years and years
Speaker 3: and years. We've succeeded in the NFL. So what do
Speaker 3: you need to do to get better? Here's the list
Speaker 3: of stuff to get better. And you used to Okay,
Speaker 3: well I'll start working on that list.
Speaker 1: And Arthur Smith has brand new eyes yeah to whatever
Speaker 1: Julian has done. And it's Ryan Dan seeing it for years,
Speaker 1: so maybe some of it just you kind of see
Speaker 1: past it, or it's like this is not new, so
Speaker 1: it does does it register? Whereas everything now is new
Speaker 1: for Arthur Smith and it's like why why this? Let's
Speaker 1: do this, you know, just just simple things like that.
Speaker 1: One other thing he mentioned, you said, Brandon Innis is
Speaker 1: gonna have a great year. He's very important to the team.
Speaker 1: So it's like, are you sure you're not on Twitter?
Speaker 1: Because there, you know, we know Brandon Innis gets a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff. But he said, the guy is clutch.
Speaker 1: Third down, you throwing the ball, he's going to catch it.
Speaker 1: Fourth down, you throw the ball, he's gonna catch it.
Speaker 1: And then the last thing I wanted to mention is
Speaker 1: the becoming more of a vocal leader. And that's something
Speaker 1: that Mick Murratty challenged him with. And it's also something
Speaker 1: that Ryan Day talked about with the quarterbacks and the workouts,
Speaker 1: where it's the quarterbacks who are like calling out the
Speaker 1: drills in terms of like said, if we're doing a
Speaker 1: set of fifty sit ups, since the quarterbacks they have
Speaker 1: to like yell it out and get everybody going, just
Speaker 1: so that they get used to speaking in front of
Speaker 1: the team, being force full in front of the team.
Speaker 1: And as they said, it's like it's maybe a little
Speaker 1: uncomfortable for them at the start, by the end it's
Speaker 1: like no big deal. And that's kind of what you
Speaker 1: want from your quarterbacks, just being comfortable in front of
Speaker 1: the team, in front of tough situations. And then those
Speaker 1: guys are with you seeing you go through all of this,
Speaker 1: get used to, you know, having that voice in their
Speaker 1: ear as well well.
Speaker 3: And also, I mean there's probably a little bit of well,
Speaker 3: you've got to be able to project if you are
Speaker 3: a quarterback and you have road games at Texas and
Speaker 3: USC and Iowa and Nebraska and Indiana on the schedule
Speaker 3: this year, you're going to have to be loud because
Speaker 3: you're going to be playing in some loud environments. So
Speaker 3: you've got to you have to be you have to
Speaker 3: be the voice where you can be loud, but also
Speaker 3: you have to be the voice that your teammates are
Speaker 3: listening for.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So those are some thoughts from Julian's saying. We've got
Speaker 1: more coming, much more coming. So if you have not
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