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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM

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<v Speaker 1>six forty.

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<v Speaker 2>KFI AM six forty Bill Handle Here Morning crew on

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<v Speaker 2>a Tuesday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>April fifteenth tax day. Unless you live in La County.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the fires, the IRS has said you have

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<v Speaker 2>until October fifteenth to file your taxes. Also, it was

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<v Speaker 2>the morning of April fifteenth that Abraham Lincoln died. All right, Harvard,

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard is in a well, they're playing chicken with the

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<v Speaker 2>federal government and what's going on. Well, Harvard is very

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<v Speaker 2>proud of its DEI program, is very proud of inclusivity,

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<v Speaker 2>is proud of the various studies that it makes that

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<v Speaker 2>it has offers to students. And the Trump administration, not

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<v Speaker 2>a big fan of DEI and other programs, has demanded

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<v Speaker 2>that Harvard simply stopped that.

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<v Speaker 1>And Harvard told them to go pound, saying, so okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So the so what the administration has done is we're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna stop funding. We're not going to give you federal funding.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine billion dollars a year is what Harvard gets over

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<v Speaker 2>the course of grants, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>During the year. It's a massive amount. No other school

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<v Speaker 1>comes close for that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the Trump administration said two point two billion dollars

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<v Speaker 2>is now frozen because the school rejected Trump's demand. The

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration demanded the school yield to extensive government oversight,

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<v Speaker 2>sweeping changes to governance, admissions, hiring practices.

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<v Speaker 1>And this was a tough one.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, the administration is saying that the review

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<v Speaker 2>of the nearly nine billion dollars in federal funding to Harvard,

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<v Speaker 2>of which two point two billion is now gone. They're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we're it's raising two point two billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>This is part of the administration's crackdown at what it

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<v Speaker 2>calls rampant anti semitism and leftist ideology on college campuses

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<v Speaker 2>around the country, but particularly Harvard.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, Columbia was the one that first started this with the.

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<v Speaker 2>Palace Propalestanian demonstrations, and the government knocked out four hundred

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<v Speaker 2>million dollars to Colombia.

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<v Speaker 1>Harvard, which of course is the top of the heap.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the best institution in the United States, considered the

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<v Speaker 2>best UH and probably in the top five internationally, is

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<v Speaker 2>really at the forefront of this now because of its positioned,

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<v Speaker 2>because of the amount of money that the government gives it.

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<v Speaker 2>So Harvard's coming back and said, oh, we're working to

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<v Speaker 2>combat anti semitism, and we remain open to dialogue about

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<v Speaker 2>what the university has done and is planning to do

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<v Speaker 2>and to improve the experience of every member of its community.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're not caving into your And Harvard is saying

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<v Speaker 2>these demands violate First Amendment rights of the school, exceed

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<v Speaker 2>the statutory limits of the government's authority under federal civil

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<v Speaker 2>rights law, of course, because that's one thing about the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration that is being argued back and forth, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is that the government itself is exceeding its constitutional

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<v Speaker 2>limitations way beyond what any other administration has ever attempted

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And the federal civil rights law that's being violated,

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<v Speaker 2>according to Harvard, threaten its values and threaten its ability

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<v Speaker 2>to even teach.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not going to teach. What the government tells

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<v Speaker 1>it to teach ain't going to happen, and we're just

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<v Speaker 1>not going to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Government doesn't have the right to take a private university

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<v Speaker 2>and tell a private university what programs it can have,

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<v Speaker 2>what programs it must eliminate, what teachers must be hired

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<v Speaker 2>or not hired, based on wildly leftist feelings and ideology.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, what does explain to me what is.

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<v Speaker 2>A left leaning teacher has wild leftist ideology?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where that line is. Do you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is liberal considered wildly leftists? Or do you have to

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<v Speaker 2>be more than liberal? I have no idea where that

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<v Speaker 2>line is. So Harrison Fields, a spokesperson for the White House,

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<v Speaker 2>said that universities are not entitled to federal funding.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not an entitlement. It is something the government gives.

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<v Speaker 1>It is more of a privilege.

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<v Speaker 2>President Trump is working to make higher education great again

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<v Speaker 2>by ending unchecked anti semitism, ensuring federal taxpayer dollars do

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<v Speaker 2>not fund Harvard support dangerous dangerous racial discrimination or racially

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<v Speaker 2>motivated violence. And Harvard or any institution that violates Title

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<v Speaker 2>six is by law and not eligible for federal funding.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're going beyond we're not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Give you money.

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<v Speaker 2>What the administration is saying, we can't give you money

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<v Speaker 2>because of Title six.

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<v Speaker 1>Of the Civil.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the anti discrimination laws that were pasted civil rights laws,

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<v Speaker 2>and you're not eligible for federal money. So therefore we're

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<v Speaker 2>freezing the money. And this is getting really really interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Back we go to what's happening between Harvard and the

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<v Speaker 2>Trump administration, where Harvard is accused of allowing anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 2>and not doing enough about it. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 2>president of Harvard, I think what she resigned last year,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm not mistaken. Why because they did allow anti

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<v Speaker 2>semitism in these protests, these pro Palestinian protests, there was

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<v Speaker 2>no question about it. Jewish students were not allowed to

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<v Speaker 2>go to class. It was kind of crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>They turned that around.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to give the Trump administration some credit

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<v Speaker 2>for that because they said we're not going to take

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<v Speaker 2>it now. Anti Palestinian demonstrations, eh, that's a different story.

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<v Speaker 1>There just aren't that many of them.

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<v Speaker 2>In any case, Harvard because of their DEI program, because

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<v Speaker 2>of what is perceived that they're leftist professors and leftist ideology.

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<v Speaker 2>The Trump administration said no, either you changed the way

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<v Speaker 2>you do things, or you're not getting money. And the

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard's saying no, and the Trump administration is also saying no.

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<v Speaker 1>That an impasse.

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<v Speaker 2>In the meantime, two point two billion dollars of grants

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<v Speaker 2>a federal money flowing to Harvard is just stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>And the government is saying, you know what, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>entitled to it.

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<v Speaker 2>We can't give it to you because of your racism,

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<v Speaker 2>because you are not allowing an even playing field, a

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<v Speaker 2>level playing field. So these programs I go back to

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<v Speaker 2>when I was referring to cal State Northridge, the kind

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<v Speaker 2>of DEI programming that happened the Pan African Studies. I

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<v Speaker 2>told you about that when I went to my first

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<v Speaker 2>day of class of African Studies and the professor comes

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<v Speaker 2>in with a dashiki and had some African name and

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<v Speaker 2>literally wrote on the blackboard that white man is the devil.

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<v Speaker 1>Try to do that today.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I talked about the first I think it

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<v Speaker 2>was the first Chicano American studies, the Chicano Studies at

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<v Speaker 2>cal State Northridge, and it was crazy. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was the Chicano Club was allowed on the campus and

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<v Speaker 2>they were and there was a huge wall that was

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<v Speaker 2>painted that was on university grounds, on a building that

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<v Speaker 2>the school allowed, and it called for the overthrow of

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<v Speaker 2>the US government and to establish the new state of

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<v Speaker 2>Aslan Aztla n taking California, New Mexico and Arizona and

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<v Speaker 2>removing them from the United States and creating a new,

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<v Speaker 2>a new country, as it.

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<v Speaker 1>Were, by way of revolution. On the campus.

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<v Speaker 2>Come on, I mean that was how crazy it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Now is it that nuts? Yeah, I don't think it's

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<v Speaker 2>surprised if it were. I haven't been to the campus

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<v Speaker 2>in a very long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's a different world. And the Trump administration

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<v Speaker 1>is saying we're stopping right now with this. We are

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<v Speaker 1>not going to let you do what you are doing.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's not just a sort of nudge. They're saying,

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to oversee it. You want federal money, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to put our people to audit everything you do.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to look at your programs. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to deter whether.

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<v Speaker 2>They're quote too inclusive, meaning they're leaning too much towards

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<v Speaker 2>the minority.

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<v Speaker 1>The minorities in.

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<v Speaker 2>School the gays, LGBTQ plus people and the black people,

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<v Speaker 2>and when not the black people, the black population, and

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<v Speaker 2>the Latino population, and the Asian population. Although Asians aren't

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<v Speaker 2>considered minorities in the schools because they do so well

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<v Speaker 2>at the ucs, it actually they're considered a reverse of

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<v Speaker 2>a minority that they cannot use their argument that they're

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<v Speaker 2>a minority to help them get positions because they're automatically

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<v Speaker 2>excluded from that argument because they do so.

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<v Speaker 1>Damn well, look at UC Berkeley.

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<v Speaker 2>How many Asians are there relative to the number of

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<v Speaker 2>Asians in the general population. So Harvard is saying no

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<v Speaker 2>to all of it. They're going to say, we're a

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<v Speaker 2>private university. You are not going to tell us what

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<v Speaker 2>to do, what classes, what governance, what oversight you are

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<v Speaker 2>going to have, how we have to report to you,

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<v Speaker 2>tell you why we are hiring someone and why that

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<v Speaker 2>person is not a leftist, wild ass leftist.

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<v Speaker 1>Professor, and proved to you. I mean, all of that.

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<v Speaker 2>The government wants, all of that the Trump administration wants,

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<v Speaker 2>and Harvard is just not backing down.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, they're at an impasse.

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<v Speaker 2>But here's the problem is the government gives, through pel

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<v Speaker 2>grants and through loans and through grants and general research grants,

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<v Speaker 2>an amazing amount of money to Harvard in the billions

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<v Speaker 2>and billions of dollars. They're just saying no and arguing

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<v Speaker 2>this is the government arguing that the DEI programs that

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<v Speaker 2>the school is in fact engaging, they are in and

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<v Speaker 2>of themselves racist, and therefore the government not only should

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<v Speaker 2>not give money under Title sakes of the Civil Rights Act,

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<v Speaker 2>but can't give money to a racist university. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a hell of an argument, Iceline. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>they're putting that up anymore. I have to look that up,

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<v Speaker 2>whether it's a thing anymore or not.

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<v Speaker 1>No idea.

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<v Speaker 3>There's some circles. There's some circles.

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<v Speaker 1>What they's still talk for it still talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you're giving me kind of a weird smile.

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<v Speaker 4>No, you go on social media and stuff, there's still groups,

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<v Speaker 4>huh talk about taking it back.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, taking it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never Oceline, it was Mexico, and they're not

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<v Speaker 2>talking about bringing.

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<v Speaker 1>It back to Mexico. They're talking about a.

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<v Speaker 2>New country a which incidentally, oh incidentally, African Americans were

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<v Speaker 2>not particularly welcome either.

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<v Speaker 1>In Icelan.

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<v Speaker 2>It was not only anti white, it was anti everybody

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<v Speaker 2>else at the same time.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of the tariffs and what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 2>terraff wars and the craziness in the economy, we have

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<v Speaker 2>not been talking much about illegal immigration.

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<v Speaker 1>But that is continuing.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a huge problem throughout the United States and

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<v Speaker 2>probably the primary reason Donald Trump was elected it was

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<v Speaker 2>on the illegal immigration issue.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where the Democrats just lost it completely. And

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<v Speaker 1>he continues on.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the things about Donald Trump, as I have

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<v Speaker 2>said many times, is he walks the talk and talks

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<v Speaker 2>the walk. I mean tell you exactly what he's going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. And there's no secret here, no hidden agenda.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what he does. Now he makes some claims

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<v Speaker 2>that is what he's going to do, which is kind

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<v Speaker 2>of impossible, but his basic philosophy hasn't changed, especially in

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<v Speaker 2>the world of illegal immigration. So with that being said,

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<v Speaker 2>let me tell you about a company called Geogroup. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a private prison firm has about one hundred private prisons

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the United States where it houses Feds, federal prisoners,

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<v Speaker 2>and eight prisoners. And it is a company that was

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<v Speaker 2>in deportation. And it gets really interesting in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>facial recognition powered app to confirm any person who is

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<v Speaker 2>in this program to verify location and identity. And this

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<v Speaker 2>is what this is about. When you think about it

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<v Speaker 2>on the surface, it makes a lot of sense. Someone

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<v Speaker 2>and they immediately want to get arrested, and they turn

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<v Speaker 2>themselves into the border control and then border control processes

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<v Speaker 2>them and they sometimes go into detention center or they're

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<v Speaker 2>the fear, of course they don't show up, and the

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<v Speaker 2>detention centers cost a fortune to maintain these people. So

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<v Speaker 2>what Geogroup did is come up with this technology and

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<v Speaker 2>it is either on an app on a cell phone

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<v Speaker 2>or a smart watch, or an ankle bracelet or an anklet,

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<v Speaker 2>and it keeps track of these folks and the government

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<v Speaker 2>knows exactly where they are. If they don't show up

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<v Speaker 2>at a hearing, they can be tracked, they can be

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<v Speaker 2>picked up, they can immediately be deported. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>similar libertarians are going crazy with this. How you can't

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<v Speaker 2>monitor people like that, Yes you can. The loss certainly

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<v Speaker 2>allows that.

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<v Speaker 1>Those folks to be monitored and quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>This is becoming a big, big part of Geogroup's finance

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<v Speaker 2>finances because that part of the business is growing like crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and so This was set up to keep tabs on

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<v Speaker 2>unauthorized immigrants who face potential deportation, and it makes a

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<v Speaker 1>In terms of keeping control.

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<v Speaker 2>However, the argument, of course is that this is unconstitutional,

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<v Speaker 2>that this is an invasion of privacy. The problem is

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<v Speaker 2>you don't have many constitutional protections when you're here illegally.

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<v Speaker 2>You certainly do as to do process, right, they have

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<v Speaker 2>to arrest you there, I mean warrants, although they can

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<v Speaker 2>pick you up simply for being illegal, for example, or

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<v Speaker 2>acting illegally while you're an illegal immigrant for example.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I know they didn't make any sense, but I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna bring it down to a point where maybe it does.

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<v Speaker 1>Neil stop giving me that.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, And that is, you are ordered by an immigration

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<v Speaker 2>judge to say within a certain area, and all of

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<v Speaker 2>a sudden, the locator shows that you are someplace. It's

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<v Speaker 2>their version of fine mine, and you're in violation, and

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<v Speaker 2>you can be picked up because if part of your

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<v Speaker 2>stay there and you go over here. The government is

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<v Speaker 2>know where you are.

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<v Speaker 1>And here is the argument.

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<v Speaker 2>The government loves this because it makes it so much easier.

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<v Speaker 2>It costs three dollars a day, for example, to keep

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<v Speaker 2>track of someone who has been released in the country

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<v Speaker 2>pending in a hearing they claim asylum. We don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if asylum is going to be granted or not. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a judge that makes that determination. There's a backlog of years.

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<v Speaker 2>So either they're in detention, which costs one hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>are monitored with this technology to cost three dollars a day.

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<v Speaker 1>And so for the government it's a great deal and

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<v Speaker 1>for the.

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<v Speaker 2>People not so great a deal because now they're being monitored.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, when you come here illegally, and by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, people who do come here illegally, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they're not coming here to commit crimes.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump says they're murderers and rapists. They're not now, no

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<v Speaker 1>more so than anybody else.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna argue that illegal migrants coming over actually commit

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<v Speaker 2>fewer crimes per capita than the general population because what

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<v Speaker 2>they want to do is they just want to stay

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<v Speaker 2>here and feed their families. And so they go under

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<v Speaker 2>the radar so you don't see them if they're driving illegally,

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<v Speaker 2>driving at eighty miles an hour down the street, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Just don't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>Good company, you may want to invest in this thing.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, part of this I love this. Immigrants

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<v Speaker 2>send selfies of where they are and what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>and that goes through a start a smart link app, which.

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<v Speaker 1>The GEO Group they do the By the way, the Geo.

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<v Speaker 2>Group people actually are doing the overseeing of this. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not the government that all of this information is given to.

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<v Speaker 2>It's given to Geogroup that then sends it to the

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<v Speaker 2>government when it is appropriate.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, yep, eighteen thousand employees.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, it's a growth business technology use in

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<v Speaker 2>a way that a lot of people are very unhappy.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, if we're going to have a program

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<v Speaker 2>and we're going to monitor those illegal migrants in this country,

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Yesterday there was an earthquake.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a magnitude five point two tembler I love

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<v Speaker 2>that word, they tembler. And it was a huge success.

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<v Speaker 2>So how does an earthquake become a huge success. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>because the early warning system kicked in and Neil, you

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<v Speaker 2>had mentioned this was the first time that you experienced

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<v Speaker 2>it or it kicked in this successfully, and I don't

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<v Speaker 3>It was the first time that.

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<v Speaker 4>The warning came prior to the earthquake, and I think

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<v Speaker 4>that's because other ones were closer to me, and this

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<v Speaker 4>was in San Diego.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, this was your Okay, your particular experience and the technology.

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<v Speaker 2>The science as I understand it is pretty simple, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is, the earth starts to shaken, and the sound

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<v Speaker 2>goes through the The sound goes through the rocks, et cetera,

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<v Speaker 2>goes through Basically, the speed of sound is it's going

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<v Speaker 2>through the earth. So by the time it reaches five

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<v Speaker 2>miles away, eight miles away, ten miles away, when it's

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<v Speaker 2>going at seven hundred and fifteen miles an hour, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's how quickly the sound goes through. It is

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<v Speaker 2>and the sh shaking can be read by sensors.

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<v Speaker 1>The shaking, it takes a while. That's it. See I'm

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<v Speaker 1>mister scientists.

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<v Speaker 2>But in any case, the sensors pick up the shaking,

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<v Speaker 2>and the sensors were quicker than the actual waves of

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<v Speaker 2>the earthquake are traveling over land. In other words, if

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<v Speaker 2>you have a quake at a given area, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>Ten miles away.

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<v Speaker 2>Sensors picking the earth shaking move quicker to tell you

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<v Speaker 2>that there's a quake a coming.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you don't know that it works for the epicenter.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>No, the epicenters you're right on top of I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're right at the epicenter, it's right there.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm talking about rest of us. Yeah, that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>And the further away you are, the further way you are,

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<v Speaker 2>the weaker it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>Not the speed of sound.

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<v Speaker 4>And we were when I was in management at KFI,

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<v Speaker 4>you were hating many many many years ago. We would

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<v Speaker 4>go out to Caltech and we were working with them

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<v Speaker 4>to be a partner radio station for all this tech.

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<v Speaker 4>So I got to see it being you know, being

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<v Speaker 3>It's just, you know, it's just the.

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<v Speaker 2>Technology is telling us about it, and we get it

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<v Speaker 2>on our smartphones. We get in on our devices and

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<v Speaker 2>it shakes and everybody here. I mean, it was in

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<v Speaker 2>what or it was North San Diego County was the epicenter, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in South Orange County. I didn't feel it, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I just don't feel anything, but Lindsay felt it.

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<v Speaker 2>You guys felt it, and you got the the alert,

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<v Speaker 2>which is kind of neat. And the analogy I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to I was trying to make an analogy here and

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<v Speaker 2>here it is. I finally figured it out because I

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<v Speaker 2>sound like a scientific moron most of the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is it's almost like the air bags in a car.

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<v Speaker 2>You have a head on collision and the air bags

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<v Speaker 2>actually depl before the kinetic energy hits you where you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be hit by the collision itself, so

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<v Speaker 2>you're being boom, you get the collision, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>you're going to be whiplash back and then forward. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>technology is such that they can't actually explode that air

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<v Speaker 2>bag out before the force of the collision, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>nanosecond so I guess the it works this way the

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<v Speaker 2>same way on a bigger scale, So it's kind of neat.

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<v Speaker 2>And the way it works on the smartphone, everybody has

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<v Speaker 2>it or you can get it for free, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of programs that's what is it my let

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<v Speaker 2>me get this.

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<v Speaker 1>What are the two that are out there? Amy? I

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<v Speaker 1>have them both.

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<v Speaker 5>I keep on the Shake alert.

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<v Speaker 1>Shake Alert, that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's it comes out from every year from McDonald when

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<v Speaker 2>they come out with a new shake it always changes.

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<v Speaker 5>And there's my shake app too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, those are the two.

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<v Speaker 3>Alert is one of my favorites.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, I have a good shamrock shake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quick question?

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<v Speaker 2>Can you I think I have them both? And do

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<v Speaker 2>they both buzz the phone at the same time? I

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<v Speaker 2>know the phone vibrates if you have it on silent

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<v Speaker 2>or does it bypass out like Amber alerts A your

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<v Speaker 1>You know what.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't think it does. I'm trying to remember what

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<v Speaker 5>happened yesterday because it hit it ten oh eight yesterday

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<v Speaker 5>and my phone vibrated. I don't think it did that

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<v Speaker 5>alert like you get when you do.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, I got the audio alert.

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<v Speaker 1>I had my.

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<v Speaker 4>Phone vibrated and my watch vibrated my Apple Watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, my watch probably vibrated too. I just wasn't paying

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<v Speaker 5>attention because there was an earthquay.

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<v Speaker 3>I handle didn't know what was happening. Yeah, I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>wear a rod and he was just happy something was working.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. I get very happy when I keep the phone

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<v Speaker 2>in my front pocket. And it vibrates, but that's for

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<v Speaker 2>an entirely different reason. Okay, this is KFI A M six.

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