Speaker 1: You see something's going to happen.
Speaker 2: What's going to happen?
Speaker 1: I'll take.
Speaker 2: What help. Welcome to the Occult Rejects. In this episode,
Speaker 2: we got a couple of rejects with us, and we
Speaker 2: got a guest that I couldn't be happier to get
Speaker 2: on with, somebody I met in person and I saw
Speaker 2: him at Charlie's Beyond Belief and he's definitely into stuff
Speaker 2: that I think we can all talk about here. But
Speaker 2: before I introduced them, Leon, I'm going to introduce the
Speaker 2: other rejects, and today I got the Headless Giant with me.
Speaker 2: What is going on?
Speaker 1: Sir?
Speaker 2: How were you? How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm the Headless Giant. You can find me on Twitter
Speaker 3: and on Instagram, also on YouTube, and I've got a
Speaker 3: show every Thursday with Nick where we talk about your
Speaker 3: weird occult experience. And so if you've got a weird
Speaker 3: of cults experience, send them to me at the Headless
Speaker 3: Giant Podcast at gmail dot com and I will read
Speaker 3: those for you. So I'll check that out. And also
Speaker 3: I've got the Sunday Trialogues with Ethan Indigo and Ricardo
Speaker 3: and check that out as well. And on Mondays, I'm
Speaker 3: doing Alchemy Mondays and I just got Jerks, so we're
Speaker 3: gonna be going through that book as well, So check
Speaker 3: that out.
Speaker 2: Thank you. Awesome, awesome. Definitely definitely check out that Thursday
Speaker 2: show I do with him. And if you have any stories,
Speaker 2: please send them in and if you want, put your
Speaker 2: information on there and I will mail you out a
Speaker 2: pack of free stickers. So there you go. And eventually
Speaker 2: by the middle of November, me and Headless we'll be
Speaker 2: covering Alista Crowley's seven seven seventh book. Probably take us
Speaker 2: a few years to get through it, but we will
Speaker 2: try to do this. And yeah, and uh, my man,
Speaker 2: Ethan Indigo, what is going on sir? How wire you.
Speaker 1: Peace? Earlier? Here?
Speaker 4: Uh easy to find on the usual social media and
Speaker 4: I'm a writer and uh frequently share articles and so yeah,
Speaker 4: still to be here.
Speaker 2: Yes, and you got a bunch of books too, don't you.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm always always to write more and yeah
Speaker 5: I've written I really enjoy sacred geometry and I've written
Speaker 5: even a book on that, So stoke to discuss things
Speaker 5: with you.
Speaker 2: Leam nice nice, Yes, definitely check man. Definitely check out
Speaker 2: Ethan's stuff. He's almost a prolific writer. I would almost
Speaker 2: consider now he's got a bunch of books out there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, certainly.
Speaker 2: And now Leon, sir, the guest of the hour or
Speaker 2: however long it takes. Again, I had met this guy
Speaker 2: at Charlie's Beyond Belief. He was one of the few
Speaker 2: people there that were kind of like into this stuff
Speaker 2: besides me, and I saw that he was in Sacred
Speaker 2: Geometry and he's kind of big into numerology. So I
Speaker 2: was like, this sounds like my type of guy to
Speaker 2: have on the show. So I got his information, checked
Speaker 2: out some of his stuff, and here he is. So Leon,
Speaker 2: why don't you let everybody know what your dealer is
Speaker 2: and where they can find any social media or anything
Speaker 2: you got out there?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Sure, I've got the Instagram page. It's my name,
Speaker 1: Leon Bowski. I've got a website that Sacred Geometry, Numerology,
Speaker 1: and yeah emails. The Instagram is growing. I've come down
Speaker 1: to South Florida about four months ago from Europe, and
Speaker 1: I'm doing lectures right now at a Pocrates Health Institute,
Speaker 1: which is right next door to me where I'm staying
Speaker 1: in West Palm Beach and doing readings there. Doing readings
Speaker 1: at like Spiritfest events, and then I'm going to one
Speaker 1: this week and I don't know if you all know
Speaker 1: about it in Sarasota. There'll be a spirit Best event there,
Speaker 1: two day event. And then I did this Body and
Speaker 1: Soul event with people that also have a podcast, Bruce
Speaker 1: and Lauren, and yeah, staying really busy right now. It's
Speaker 1: been a good place to be. Yeah, I know when
Speaker 1: we were find I do readings. What I do, thank you,
Speaker 1: and I do it Ethan you might get rest in this.
Speaker 1: What happened is I became aware that I understood numerology,
Speaker 1: which isn't that difficult? And then I also became aware
Speaker 1: that no one had taken numerology and put it in
Speaker 1: a feminine and sacred geometry. It was always linear, like
Speaker 1: we could talk about numbers forever, but I wanted to
Speaker 1: talk about numbers in a circle. And being a child
Speaker 1: of the sixties, I knew about mandalas, I knew about horoscopes,
Speaker 1: I knew about the Wickan circle, the medicine wheel. Everything
Speaker 1: was circular. So somehow God answered my question and I
Speaker 1: was unable to put a person's birth date to numerology
Speaker 1: in the circle. And what made that work was like
Speaker 1: being able to be clear enough to see what was
Speaker 1: a parent and what was a parent was a circumference
Speaker 1: of the circle was one hundred and twenty years. And
Speaker 1: that's not saying how long a personal live. That's the
Speaker 1: length the distance between say, West Palm Beach and Sarasota.
Speaker 1: So it became apparent to me a number of ways.
Speaker 1: The most obvious is pragmatic. How long did the longest
Speaker 1: lived people live the oldest people between one point fifteen
Speaker 1: and one twenty five? And then you know, through tradition,
Speaker 1: people wish upon each other, may you live to be
Speaker 1: one twenty. And as I've traveled, wherever I go, there's
Speaker 1: some astute person like here Brian. When I was in Sedona,
Speaker 1: it was another guy. When I was in England it
Speaker 1: was another guy. They write books I want to live
Speaker 1: to be one twenty. So once I knew that the
Speaker 1: circle was one twenty, and you divide it into four
Speaker 1: directions like you do the circle, then that was thirty
Speaker 1: sixty and ninety and then one twenty. Thirty sixty and
Speaker 1: ninety are approximate year saturn Rey terms, which again is
Speaker 1: not a chronological thing. It's just a division of the
Speaker 1: whole soul different quarters, and in yoga you have those
Speaker 1: four quarters youth, adult, senior, and elderly. So when I
Speaker 1: started putting the numerology in that chart, then it was
Speaker 1: like an instrument that told a story. And it's been
Speaker 1: one hundred percent accurate. And I didn't get to do you,
Speaker 1: did I, Nick, I didn't do your numerology?
Speaker 2: Get off. Yeah. I was all over the place there.
Speaker 2: I was in a statute.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I didn't expect to do readings there. I didn't
Speaker 1: know what to expect. There was but people like you.
Speaker 1: It was mainly vendors that approached me. Uh, people that
Speaker 1: were turned on, tuned in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was actually, I would tell you the truth.
Speaker 2: I was a little surprised. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: how you would call it witchy, cult and magical, you
Speaker 2: know whatever. There was a decent amount of people there
Speaker 2: that were kind of like would fit into the into
Speaker 2: those categories more than I expected. You know, there was
Speaker 2: a couple of witches. They had the check with the
Speaker 2: singing bowl. She she was singing new Praises the whole time.
Speaker 2: Jessica I think her name was it, yeah Is. She
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, you gotta go over that guy.
Speaker 2: This guy blew my mind. It's just number stuff.
Speaker 1: But yeah, what I've done is because be pretty helpful
Speaker 1: for people, insightful. I don't claim it to be psychic,
Speaker 1: like I say, it's just an instrument, and it's an
Speaker 1: accurate instrument. When you it's interesting.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, No you go ahead? Do you think go ahead?
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, it's interesting your design of the
Speaker 5: four quartered circle corresponding with the four aspects of life
Speaker 5: that as you point out that that's something that we
Speaker 5: see in many different cultures carried through I've also seen
Speaker 5: or heard rather about how as we age we kind
Speaker 5: of get Sometimes we'll get stuck in one way or another.
Speaker 1: But we'll go through.
Speaker 5: Our base for seven years and then the next chakra
Speaker 5: and kind of spend like seven years at a time
Speaker 5: going through these.
Speaker 1: Not that we're stuck in them.
Speaker 5: That's our facus, right, Like as a baby, we just
Speaker 5: have needs and it's kind of like that needs needs,
Speaker 5: and as we age we go to them.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you have many thoughts on that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of them. Like when you all mentioned Alistair Crowley,
Speaker 1: I know the name, and then you mentioned the book
Speaker 1: seven seven seven. It doesn't matter what discipline you're in,
Speaker 1: it's going to be seven seven steps of completion. And
Speaker 1: again that's like the one twenty Ah, look at that man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the obvious because how many days of creation? We're
Speaker 1: talking about creation? Seven? How many days of the week? Seven?
Speaker 1: How many chakras? Seven? How many colors in a rainbow,
Speaker 1: the whole gamut of color? Seven? So seven is a
Speaker 1: number of completion. And I'll just tell you this, since
Speaker 1: we're all males here doing this, you don't want to
Speaker 1: argue with a woman that has too many sevens in
Speaker 1: her chart. Very intuitive women are intuitive anyway, a woman
Speaker 1: with a seven in her chart, and I'm encountered a
Speaker 1: lot of them in my life. They're very intuitive people.
Speaker 1: So it's a number of creation. It's someone that knows
Speaker 1: all of the aspects. And again it doesn't matter. You
Speaker 1: know where we're going and reading, we'll see the seven steps.
Speaker 1: So you're entirely correct, Ethan, And that's how and its cycles.
Speaker 1: Like you said, I, if you want to look at
Speaker 1: the Saturn return, you got four sevens and then that's
Speaker 1: approximately it. You can hear colloquialisms like the seven seven
Speaker 1: year itch. You know, my wife doesn't like me to
Speaker 1: get so personal. But my wife left me seven years
Speaker 1: to the week, almost to the day that we met,
Speaker 1: and she's back. But seven is a cycle. Seven is
Speaker 1: definitely a cycle. Seven steps.
Speaker 2: Oh that's you. Yeah, I've even noticed a lot the
Speaker 2: other one. Sorry, huh, So I just want to mention
Speaker 2: real quick, Leon, So something I've even noticed though again
Speaker 2: you had mentioned like the feminine and putting stuff into
Speaker 2: a circle. I know, capitalistically, you know, the seventh sphere
Speaker 2: would be associated with the female, but there's even been
Speaker 2: plenty of times where like even in the Voyage Manuscript
Speaker 2: is one example where you will see like seven women,
Speaker 2: like you'll just see like seven like in some sort
Speaker 2: of like feminine thing kind of replayed over and over
Speaker 2: and over again. So I do find it. And the
Speaker 2: color green is always used as well, which goes with
Speaker 2: net sock, which is the seventh sphere, seventh sphere on
Speaker 2: the cabalistic crea of a life. So I guess I
Speaker 2: kind of get what you're saying. Is like I think
Speaker 2: sometimes seven is almost like the whole everything has been encapsulated,
Speaker 2: and wow, isn't formed.
Speaker 6: I'm saying kind of like the feminine, Yeah, like the
Speaker 6: seven days in creation.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's the whole creation, you know. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: seven's got that vibe to it. All the other numbers
Speaker 1: do too, they have a vibe like one. If I
Speaker 1: see a guy or a person with one in their chart,
Speaker 1: they're going to spend some time alone in their life.
Speaker 1: They might even you know, have their personality as such
Speaker 1: that they want a certain amount of solitude and independence.
Speaker 1: But the tricky part is when you're doing a reading
Speaker 1: for someone and they have a one in their chart
Speaker 1: and they ask you a question like, well, when's the
Speaker 1: pretty girl coming or when's the handsome man coming? There's
Speaker 1: no answer for that. But with the sacred geometry numerology,
Speaker 1: Ethan is informing people is how the one is experiencing
Speaker 1: itself through an individual, Like we're experiencing the oneness, but
Speaker 1: the oneness, and that's where sacred geometry comes in. Ethan.
Speaker 1: One of the best definitions I've heard of the one
Speaker 1: came out of a book. I don't know if you're
Speaker 1: all familiar with this guy, but he wrote a book
Speaker 1: called About the Jewel in the Loaded Douglas Baker, and
Speaker 1: he was a Rosa Crucian from England. He's dead now,
Speaker 1: but he became pretty popular in England. And at the
Speaker 1: beginning of the book, and I've got to laugh when
Speaker 1: I say this, he had seven postulates of perennial wisdom,
Speaker 1: and people say, oh, there's no absolute truth. Well here
Speaker 1: was some of his seven postulates. Everything is alive, everything
Speaker 1: exists within a larger being, and one of them was
Speaker 1: God is a center that's everywhere, but with no circumference.
Speaker 1: So you can't put a circumference about the eternal One.
Speaker 1: But how the eternal One comes into each one of
Speaker 1: us or every aspect of creation. That's when you get
Speaker 1: the sacred geometry. You have a center, and then you
Speaker 1: have a circumference. You have the electromagnetic field or whatever
Speaker 1: you want to call it of that being. So if
Speaker 1: I see a one in someone's chart, that's how the
Speaker 1: larger one, the maga one, is experience in itself through
Speaker 1: that individual, which means that individual has to become a
Speaker 1: strong individual. It's not a done deal, that's a potential.
Speaker 1: That's the course that a person's on. So if I
Speaker 1: see a one in someone's chart, it's about them becoming
Speaker 1: a very self empowered and then you go on from there. Two, three, four, three,
Speaker 1: as we know that's the basic building block of all
Speaker 1: structure of creation, the triangle, flower of life, trinity, principle
Speaker 1: of creation, so that that has its fibe to it too,
Speaker 1: and it goes all the way up to nine. Numerology.
Speaker 1: The Pythagorean way of doing it is everything's reduced to
Speaker 1: those primary numbers one through nine, and then we have
Speaker 1: these double numbers eleven, twenty two, and thirty three. And
Speaker 1: a whole lot of people that I get involved with
Speaker 1: have elevens in their chart, and I never got to
Speaker 1: do you, Nix. I don't know who you are, but
Speaker 1: my birthpath noveler is eleven. What's your birthday? Nick? April nineteenth,
Speaker 1: April nineteen, So that's a four and a one. When
Speaker 1: you see the four in a person Shart in that
Speaker 1: first quarter, Ethan, you've got it on a spectrum, because
Speaker 1: everything's as we know now is on a spectrum. So
Speaker 1: one end of the spectrum, Nick could have come out
Speaker 1: of a very structured environment that he's trying to You know,
Speaker 1: whenever we go in that second quarter where we're adults,
Speaker 1: what's happening is we're actually not free. We're actually responding
Speaker 1: to our childhood or our foundation so like in Nix's case,
Speaker 1: with a four in that first quarter and then a one,
Speaker 1: either his upbringing made him a very strong individual or
Speaker 1: it didn't, and he wants to become a strong individual
Speaker 1: somewhere on that spectrum depending on what that situation.
Speaker 2: Was is the way it does. It do.
Speaker 1: And then that adds up to a five, because if
Speaker 1: you look at sixty as the midpoint of life on
Speaker 1: this one hundred and twenty years circle, sixty, the two
Speaker 1: quarters would be halfway. So in nixt case, four and
Speaker 1: one is a five. That's a communicator. Five is Gemini
Speaker 1: Air communication. So it's natural that he'd be doing this
Speaker 1: as he's developing his life. There's another person.
Speaker 7: There, Hi, Yeah, sorry, So yeah, that's the way it works.
Speaker 1: And this chart that I've done and the way that
Speaker 1: I'm able to look at a person's birthday is very accurate.
Speaker 2: Anybody anybody else?
Speaker 1: Yeah, anybody else to you for that, it's just something.
Speaker 2: Everybody else, you're willing to try to try this? I
Speaker 2: want to see if anybody else was willing to try this,
Speaker 2: if they will or somebody even in the chat that
Speaker 2: was a just if you don't mind again.
Speaker 5: Mine's August fourteenth, who just said you ethan August flour team.
Speaker 1: You're coming in with eight. August is the eighth month.
Speaker 1: I've got a daughter that's born in August too. It's
Speaker 1: the infinity sign. It goes beyond that seven. So what
Speaker 1: that means is for energy to flow infinitely, it has
Speaker 1: to overcome all obstacles. So if you've got that in
Speaker 1: your first quarter, there's a possibility again looking at the spectrum,
Speaker 1: that your childhood could have been disrupted. But it hardwires
Speaker 1: you one way or the other, positive or negative. You're
Speaker 1: a goal oriented individual. That's your foundation. You want success.
Speaker 1: You're an achiever because that's like I say, if you
Speaker 1: look at the infinity sign, that's about infinite energy flowing.
Speaker 1: So that's foundationally who you are. And then you said
Speaker 1: the fourteenth that, yeah, that's another five. One in four
Speaker 1: is five. So writing books any way you can communicate.
Speaker 1: You know, we're the mouthpiece, we're the communicators. But it
Speaker 1: also means for you with that five energy, you need
Speaker 1: your freedom. Brother, It's like air doesn't want to be contained.
Speaker 1: So and the reason this is helpful for people, you
Speaker 1: can't be anybody different than the way that you are.
Speaker 1: You know, the path that you're on. How that one
Speaker 1: we were talking about is experience in itself through you.
Speaker 1: So if someone tries to take away your freedom, your
Speaker 1: freedom of movement, your freedom of curiosity, it's going to
Speaker 1: go against the grain. And then if we look at
Speaker 1: that eight and five together, eight and five thirteen e's
Speaker 1: of four, so a four again the box like what
Speaker 1: Nick has. When you got that four energy, you want
Speaker 1: some stability. So again I don't know your personal life,
Speaker 1: but I know in creating this first half of your
Speaker 1: life you want some structures, some solidity, and some a
Speaker 1: purpose in life. It's very earthy, pragmatic. So you see
Speaker 1: that combination, and then how you synthesize that combination is unique.
Speaker 1: Individual You're going to find your own expression. So it'll
Speaker 1: be a lot of people the same birthdays. That rings
Speaker 1: really resonates. Thank you for sharing that. No, I'll look boo.
Speaker 1: I love doing it. I asked every waitress, every gas
Speaker 1: station attendant for years until I got to this place.
Speaker 2: Every waitress, that's funny, course, why not? Real quick? Would
Speaker 2: you mind doing one more? If? If I as somebody,
Speaker 2: there's somebody in the chat?
Speaker 1: Yell ye?
Speaker 2: Where was he again? Seven?
Speaker 1: Wait?
Speaker 2: No, for twelve ninety three.
Speaker 1: Four twelve ninety three. So again you know on the
Speaker 1: spectrum with that four, there's the two ends of the spectrum,
Speaker 1: but the truth is somewhere in between. One end a
Speaker 1: person could come out of a very structured environment, or
Speaker 1: the other end it's the soul that wants structure in
Speaker 1: their life.
Speaker 8: And then you said the twelfth twelfth, Yes, that's that's
Speaker 8: a three. Yeah, that's a three. People that with the
Speaker 8: three energy very sweet people. I'll call them sweethearts. I
Speaker 8: don't care if they're male or female. I saw that's
Speaker 8: again like we're talking about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the child is a third member of the family,
Speaker 1: third dimension. It's very innocent. So people with that free energy,
Speaker 1: unless they're damaged, are very sweet people. They make good employees,
Speaker 1: good friends. That's as we know. We're talking about the
Speaker 1: same reality in a lot of different ways. Those are
Speaker 1: your angles that Tesler liked. He liked the three six nine.
Speaker 1: You look at the triangle, that's easiest way for energy
Speaker 1: to flow. So these are acquiescent people that have that
Speaker 1: three energy. I did. I don't do celebrities, you know,
Speaker 1: just to do them. But when I was in England,
Speaker 1: Sinead O'Connor died and that was like a big deal,
Speaker 1: And then Ozzie died and that was a big deal.
Speaker 1: They had the same numerology and the first number was
Speaker 1: a twelve, which is a three. So there were sweet people,
Speaker 1: as we know at heart. But they were both horribly
Speaker 1: damaged by their parents. They had horrible childhoods, they were abused,
Speaker 1: so they acted out like that. That's eighty percent of
Speaker 1: all of us. You know, something happened in our childhood
Speaker 1: that should have been divine and instead it could have
Speaker 1: been not divine, and then we developed these coping mechanisms.
Speaker 1: But eventually the real person will come out, like with
Speaker 1: OSSI it the Prince of Darkness turned out to be
Speaker 1: the Prince when he died. I mean, the guy was beautiful,
Speaker 1: His soul was beautiful. The way he impacted humanity. It
Speaker 1: was a big deal in England. That last concert that
Speaker 1: he did, I can't remember what they called it, but
Speaker 1: he raised a lot of money and it all went
Speaker 1: to charity, So yeah, he was He was a beautiful guy.
Speaker 1: In Shanade, they both had three to eight in their
Speaker 1: first two quarters, which adds up to an eleven. Those
Speaker 1: of us with elevens in our chart, we're here to
Speaker 1: bring in the new age, whatever people want to call it.
Speaker 1: So and like in Shanade's she was trying to save everybody,
Speaker 1: you know, she didn't want to just save like women
Speaker 1: or Irish people or Rastafarian. She was everywhere trying to
Speaker 1: wake people up. So, yeah, they were interesting people. It's
Speaker 1: fun to do. It's fun to do so and you
Speaker 1: said ninety three, that's one in nine ers ten and
Speaker 1: nine is nineteen, three is twenty two. When you see
Speaker 1: that twenty two which I have in my chart, that's
Speaker 1: somebody that can think of something and manifest it. And again,
Speaker 1: this is a spectrum. Some people are going to do
Speaker 1: nothing with that energy. Some people are going to roll
Speaker 1: with it. Author Conan Doyle is a five twenty two
Speaker 1: like me, and he rolled with it. Bernie Taupin is
Speaker 1: a five twenty two that wrote all the lyrics Felton John. So, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the ability with twenty two energy to create the
Speaker 1: It's like the four. The four has a purpose, but
Speaker 1: to twenty two blows it up. It's a higher frequency.
Speaker 1: And any of those double numbers eleven, twenty two, and
Speaker 1: thirty three, it's a desire to do something that will
Speaker 1: affect the world, not just the person. So then we
Speaker 1: add all that up to get and see the first
Speaker 1: half of that individual. You gave me nick with a
Speaker 1: four and the three that's a seven. So this is
Speaker 1: a person that's got deep feelings wants the truth. Again
Speaker 1: with these seven people, like I said, it's any seven person,
Speaker 1: but in my life it's spent every female that's come
Speaker 1: into my life, my sister, my wives, my daughters. You
Speaker 1: don't want to lie to them. They're very intuitive people,
Speaker 1: so they know if you're giving them the truth or not.
Speaker 1: And then that's seven and twenty two heading the first half,
Speaker 1: and then the year nineteen ninety three is probably an eleven.
Speaker 1: So you're looking at a person that's got those two
Speaker 1: numbers that I have in my chart, eleven and twenty two.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, interesting when you come upon someone like that
Speaker 1: because the eleven energy, like I said, why is eleven?
Speaker 1: Where I say, it's the number for the New Age
Speaker 1: because it's ruled by Uranus and Aquarius is ruled by
Speaker 1: Uranus and we're astrologically going or in the age of Aquarius.
Speaker 1: That's why that's not the only reason why we're going
Speaker 1: through all this change right now. There's a couple and
Speaker 1: Ethan might know more about this than I do, but
Speaker 1: there's a couple of other big cycles that are coming
Speaker 1: to back to their origin point, and everything's going to change.
Speaker 1: The human being is changing. Those of us that are
Speaker 1: going to survive and I don't mean us personally, but
Speaker 1: those humans that are going to survive through this transition
Speaker 1: aren't going to be Homo sapiens. It's going to be
Speaker 1: something different. That's why we're all learning all this quote
Speaker 1: unquote occult and esoteric wisdom because we're learning who we
Speaker 1: really are. And once we learn who we really are,
Speaker 1: then we can consciously co create and not be And
Speaker 1: that's the big thing.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: I'm doing a lot of talking. This is a major
Speaker 1: escape from slavery. That's the big picture. It's happened a
Speaker 1: couple of times historically, but it's what's happening now. We're
Speaker 1: divine individuals. We're not anybody's slave, and that's what we're
Speaker 1: being processed through right now. And it's like the darkest
Speaker 1: hour before the dawn sort of scenario. Right now we're
Speaker 1: seeing it, but it'll come through.
Speaker 2: You know when you mentioned the planets, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Why we're doing the work.
Speaker 2: Uh, you know, it's a little off, but I wanted
Speaker 2: to mention earlier when you had mentioned the planets before.
Speaker 2: It's it's funny how like you mentioned Uranus and I
Speaker 2: think another one. And even with the planets, the moon
Speaker 2: is the moon isn't technically a planet, but we still
Speaker 2: use those seven planets like normal for a culture, right,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Like going and going again
Speaker 2: back to the seven. It's like there's more than seven,
Speaker 2: and there's one in there that really shouldn't even be counted,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, So it is interesting, like
Speaker 2: you still get seven.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I forgot about that, this original planets that are
Speaker 1: visible to the eye. Yeah, that's kind of why I
Speaker 1: got out of astrology too, because you can find as
Speaker 1: many planets and stars as you want. It can go
Speaker 1: on and on and on, but the numerology always goes
Speaker 1: back to those primary numbers one through nine.
Speaker 2: Real quick only because she can't not putting that to
Speaker 2: put you on the spot, Arrows. But since you came
Speaker 2: on late, I wanted to give you a chance to
Speaker 2: let everybody know, like what's up with you and who
Speaker 2: you are?
Speaker 7: Can you hear me. Yes, okay, yeah, thanks nick A
Speaker 7: Arrows Up. You can find me on YouTube at arrows
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Speaker 7: enyads and I post a lot about astrology, which made
Speaker 7: me kind of think of what this fine gentleman was
Speaker 7: talking about cycles coming to an end. We definitely have
Speaker 7: a big cycle coming to an end, and we're starting
Speaker 7: a new cycle here in February. In February, we have
Speaker 7: a new solar eclipse cycle starting in Aquarius, which is
Speaker 7: going to be a pretty big deal. And then we
Speaker 7: have that same month, we're gonna have Neptune and Saturn
Speaker 7: conjunct and aries for the first time in six thousand years.
Speaker 2: So hell yeah, yeah, how interesting areas in there. She
Speaker 2: definitely be some changing chaos.
Speaker 7: Rishwar, because the other times that we've had these Neptune
Speaker 7: Saturn conjunctions in history have been like major revolutions, like
Speaker 7: the Bolshevik Revolution in nineteen seventeen, the Chinese Revolution, the
Speaker 7: French Revolution, the American Revolution, and then also the Great Depression.
Speaker 7: It happens about every fifty six years, but it happening
Speaker 7: in areas seems like a big deal because that's that's
Speaker 7: the head you know, that's where that's kind of the
Speaker 7: foundational energy.
Speaker 2: Very well, thank you for that. Yeah, that is something
Speaker 2: I was even you know, I find it interesting that
Speaker 2: you mentioned that, Leon, and especially what you just eded yours.
Speaker 2: I have wondered. I know this maybe goes off a
Speaker 2: little bit with what the topic is, but I mean
Speaker 2: I've even mentioned it to Headless, and I think he's
Speaker 2: even pointed stuff out to me before. Not so much
Speaker 2: with humans, I guess with humans I can see it.
Speaker 2: But I've even noticed, like I think animals are even
Speaker 2: getting a little bit more I don't know, in tune
Speaker 2: or self aware or they're not as I don't know.
Speaker 2: It just seems to be getting smarter, you know. And
Speaker 2: I wonder about that, like is there actually some sort
Speaker 2: of like intellectual upgrade or something some some some some shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an upgrade for sure. Yeah. Yeah, and none
Speaker 1: of us. I don't think you can see the complete picture,
Speaker 1: but I think we're all aware of what this energy
Speaker 1: is feels like, and where it's leading us. But we're
Speaker 1: becoming conscious and what we're doing right now. This is
Speaker 1: I'm an old child of the sixties and a lot
Speaker 1: of people, you know, don't have a really good perspective
Speaker 1: on that. But think about this, so much of what
Speaker 1: we're doing now came out of the sixties, what people
Speaker 1: are enjoying now, as far as nonconformity and bringing in
Speaker 1: this new vibe. We got all that information in the
Speaker 1: sixties and there wasn't any internet, there wasn't any school,
Speaker 1: and within a couple of years, it was a drive
Speaker 1: to your computer and it's got all the information in it.
Speaker 1: It's like we those of us that were taking psychedelics
Speaker 1: or whatever that we're open. It was like a flask
Speaker 1: drive and we knew a whole bunch of stuff real quick.
Speaker 1: My thing is, I don't know what buffering or something,
Speaker 1: but yeah, you all are back. So like whether we're
Speaker 1: talking about, you know, the occult, whether we're talking about
Speaker 1: organic food, natural childbirth, all of this came out of
Speaker 1: the sixties and it was so The reason I'm saying
Speaker 1: all that is, if anybody's listened to Edgar Casey, Edgar
Speaker 1: Casey talks about the Acashaic record, where we know everything
Speaker 1: we have, we're part of the one. So we can
Speaker 1: ask a question, we don't even have to verbalize it,
Speaker 1: and we can get an answer because just like with
Speaker 1: a computer are connected. So I see that what we're
Speaker 1: doing with the Internet and computers and all these devices
Speaker 1: now and technology is preparing us, like you said, Nick,
Speaker 1: for an upgrade. We're not going to be those stupid,
Speaker 1: you know, blockheads that a lot of people have been
Speaker 1: for a long time. And when one person said about that,
Speaker 1: and I like the terminology a lot, they're going to
Speaker 1: be thought out of existence, just like Chromagnum Neanderthal. The
Speaker 1: DNA is still around, but they're not around. We have
Speaker 1: absorbed that. So the people that aren't going to make
Speaker 1: this upgrade, they're not going to be around in a
Speaker 1: couple of hundred years. And that's why I think a
Speaker 1: lot of us are trying to share the information that
Speaker 1: we're trying to share right now, whether it's for our family,
Speaker 1: our friends, or like Ethan with his five energy and you,
Speaker 1: we're just sharing it, putting it out there wherever it'll stick,
Speaker 1: wherever will listen.
Speaker 2: When it comes to the headless, did you want to
Speaker 2: say something, Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was gonna mention.
Speaker 3: Rupert Sheldrake in the morphogenic field is getting a lot
Speaker 3: more attention nowadays, which is talking about sort of this
Speaker 3: residence effect that happens between information and living organisms as well.
Speaker 3: So it's it's kind of like the more people become
Speaker 3: aware of this stuff, the greater ability we have to
Speaker 3: interact with it.
Speaker 2: It's almost kind of like it spreads.
Speaker 1: That's true. And it's like, yeah, and that was Rupert Sheldrake, right,
Speaker 1: they wrote that I met his son and Toddness. He's
Speaker 1: into mushrooms big time and he wrote a pretty successful
Speaker 1: book about it. But yeah, if you go back to
Speaker 1: the mysilium, same thing, the mysilium, which is like the
Speaker 1: network that's underneath the ground. It's connected. Everything is totally connected.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's pretty interesting. We're learning all this. You know,
Speaker 1: we know things now our parents didn't know. Even people
Speaker 1: that go to college, they get out of college, they
Speaker 1: don't know this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when we start talking about this stuff, obviously, like
Speaker 2: I'm assuming you have seen it. You see this stuff
Speaker 2: done in the past and other cultures and in art,
Speaker 2: cultism and symbolism, right, Like, it's almost as if we're
Speaker 2: relearning something that's been over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: That's exactly right. It's returning us back to the intelligence
Speaker 1: of mother Earth, which indigenous people, first world people never
Speaker 1: got away from. But we're doing it now with this
Speaker 1: at land in technology, and hopefully we don't do what
Speaker 1: they did in Atlantis where they misuse the technology, and
Speaker 1: we see that possibility right now where things can get destroyed.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how it's going to work out,
Speaker 1: but I got a lot of faith in it because
Speaker 1: it's been prophesized that we are going to go into
Speaker 1: this Schoolden age and this sage of peace and love. Otherwise,
Speaker 1: us hippies were full of I can say the word,
Speaker 1: but we believed it and we brought the vibe down.
Speaker 1: And that's what it is too, Nick. I think the
Speaker 1: vibes there and it's up to individuals to bring, you know,
Speaker 1: to anchor that vibe or to bring that vibe into reality,
Speaker 1: and that's what we're doing.
Speaker 7: Well.
Speaker 3: We've had other periods in history of major condom advancement.
Speaker 3: If you look back at the five hundred years or
Speaker 3: so with Plato and the philosophers over in Greece as
Speaker 3: well as all the way across the Middle East into China,
Speaker 3: you had about, uh, you know, five hundred years starting
Speaker 3: around the time of Buddha with this age of philosophy,
Speaker 3: and then you know, things transition very quickly after that.
Speaker 3: But you know, you see these uh you know, synchronous
Speaker 3: events sort of taking place all over the world at
Speaker 3: the same time, and there's no real reason for it
Speaker 3: other than, you know, maybe there's some other energy entering
Speaker 3: into the into the atmosphere.
Speaker 5: To that point, I was doing, you guys think and
Speaker 5: especially when what you think about uh, well, let me
Speaker 5: preface it with the idea that plasma energy dispersed into
Speaker 5: the universe kicks up our consciousness, uh instigates growth of
Speaker 5: consciousness is a theory, and that this three A three
Speaker 5: I at liast is coming through and supposedly one of
Speaker 5: the effects is going to be that it's going to
Speaker 5: kick up a bunch of plasma energy. And maybe if
Speaker 5: that is true about the consciousness in plasma, it's going
Speaker 5: to who knows what.
Speaker 1: Kind of effects on the planet. I just wonder.
Speaker 5: I know it's far out, but hey, you're talking about
Speaker 5: the sixties, so.
Speaker 1: I'm far out at all. What doesn't There's a lot
Speaker 1: that came out of the sixties Because I lived through that.
Speaker 1: I was in the military from sixty three to sixty eight,
Speaker 1: and I was a regular dude. I was a young dude.
Speaker 1: I was a very regular dude eating two steaks, you know,
Speaker 1: on steak night. I was in Special Forces, very conventional,
Speaker 1: you know, just enjoying my life and just said, did
Speaker 1: you go You all know what it's like. No, I
Speaker 1: didn't have to, luckily, being a survival instructor. I was
Speaker 1: and Spokane, but everybody that was on flying status had
Speaker 1: to go through the survival school and then they put
Speaker 1: them back on flying status. So yeah, that was fortunate
Speaker 1: because we had to cross train at that time to
Speaker 1: get into survival and it was called air rescue survival.
Speaker 1: So if I would have gone into air rescue, yeah,
Speaker 1: I ended up in Vietnam. I might not be talking
Speaker 1: to you, but I ended up in Survival. But by
Speaker 1: the time I was getting out, we were already turning on.
Speaker 1: I'd already started smoking cannabis. I was listening to Jimmy
Speaker 1: Hendrix and you know, everybody, Bob Dylan. I turned down
Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars in sixty eight to get out and
Speaker 1: be part of the counterculture, and within a year, in
Speaker 1: early sixty nine, I had taken two thousand mics of
Speaker 1: pure Osley LSD on my first psychedelic trip. So never
Speaker 1: looked back, you know, from them. But yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: thing that I wanted to share. That's a little personal stuff.
Speaker 1: Is what reflecting back on it. We were the first generation,
Speaker 1: and I share this with people. There's always been incredible
Speaker 1: turned on people. There was never a turned on generation
Speaker 1: in the history of recorded history until the sixties. That was,
Speaker 1: it didn't matter where on the globe a person was,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they understood the Beatles, they understood Dylan,
Speaker 1: they understood psychedelics. Like I say, it wasn't anything that
Speaker 1: was shared in a conventional way. It was a download
Speaker 1: from spirit. But the message that comes out of the
Speaker 1: sixties is cosmic consciousness. That wasn't a part of language.
Speaker 1: Up until our generation. People didn't think like that, they
Speaker 1: didn't talk like that. So what I've seen happen in
Speaker 1: the last fifty years is that just what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: We understand we're part of the galaxy. Now we're part
Speaker 1: of the universe. So I think this upgrade is an
Speaker 1: upgrade from provincial tribal humanity to us becoming part of
Speaker 1: the galactic federation or brotherhood. However that's happening. A lot
Speaker 1: of people are watching it happen. Have some information about it.
Speaker 1: But I don't think any of us know exactly what
Speaker 1: that means. But that's to me, is what the truth
Speaker 1: of it is. You know, it's no longer I'm a
Speaker 1: white person, I'm an American, I'm a Christian, I'm a Republican.
Speaker 1: Now we're just all part of one Earth that's part
Speaker 1: of this galaxy, this universe. And we realize just now
Speaker 1: it's not empty space out there. It's all conscious and
Speaker 1: it's full of life. And we're gonna get a place
Speaker 1: where we can, like we're doing right now, connect with
Speaker 1: that information and that that life. People call it disclosure
Speaker 1: right now.
Speaker 2: One thing I did want to ask it was kind
Speaker 2: of something that me and Headless we're thinking about before
Speaker 2: you came on. You know, I know, because I'm just
Speaker 2: assuming since you're into numbers, maybe you would uh maybe
Speaker 2: think this way or entertain this idea, you know, just
Speaker 2: in fact of like the sun itself is emitting like
Speaker 2: basically code. You know what whatever's coming off the sun
Speaker 2: is like basically like in the light. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: once it gets into your eye and connects to the
Speaker 2: optic nerve and gets turned into electricity, it's basically reading
Speaker 2: some sort of code. Like there's information in there. Do
Speaker 2: you think there could be even changes like amongst what's
Speaker 2: out there from the Sun bouncing off the moon or
Speaker 2: anything like anything even coming into us that might even
Speaker 2: somehow be influencing that sort of stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right, I don't think we're dreaming this stuff up.
Speaker 1: I really don't. I don't think we had the ability
Speaker 1: to do that. I think it's something that's coming from
Speaker 1: that larger being. You know, everything expands, consciousness expands, and
Speaker 1: there's a larger being that we're part of, which is Solaris.
Speaker 1: Like we're whether people want to argue about it, we're
Speaker 1: all part of Gaya. Where Guya goes, we go, and
Speaker 1: where Solaris goes, we go too. Guya goes and then
Speaker 1: Solaris is part of what the milky ways part of
Speaker 1: some galaxy. So where that goes, we go. So everything's
Speaker 1: connected like that. So yeah, that and it's all information, brother, Nick,
Speaker 1: it really is. We can turn it into math whatever,
Speaker 1: but that's what's happening. It's total information. It's it's incredible,
Speaker 1: it's beyond into any computer AI that we have right now.
Speaker 2: And you did you know even before and you mentioned
Speaker 2: you like it mentioned Seven's and you're talking about the Earth.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's not seven on the dop what even
Speaker 2: the frequency of the Earth is seven point eighty three.
Speaker 2: So I found that to be like another interesting thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, do you all listen to Robert Edward Grant? Ever,
Speaker 1: he's a pretty sharp guy, and he's a polymath, but
Speaker 1: he I can't follow him because he's more intellectual than
Speaker 1: I am. But all measurement, all time, uh distance and
Speaker 1: add up to a nine. If we talk about three
Speaker 1: hundred and sixty three and six, that's a nine. So
Speaker 1: nine's a number of seven is a number of completion
Speaker 1: in one sense. Nine is that number that everything culminates
Speaker 1: into is nine. I'm not really sure why. I do
Speaker 1: know that nine is complete expansion. Like any of you
Speaker 1: all have a nine in your chart, it's pretty interesting,
Speaker 1: really far out. People can get almost too far out
Speaker 1: the exact opposite one. Yeah, exact opposite of one. You know.
Speaker 1: I see a nine and somebody's china. It's like you
Speaker 1: can get lost in fiction fantasy, depending on how grounded
Speaker 1: you are, because it's about expansion, and if there is
Speaker 1: a nine in your chart and you want to expand.
Speaker 1: I was looking at the hot air balloons and Sedona.
Speaker 1: It's about drop up in the sandbag. So someone has
Speaker 1: nine in their chart. It's about getting rid of the
Speaker 1: the old age bullshit, you know, whether it's from our parents,
Speaker 1: from education, from past lives or whatever. But to completely
Speaker 1: let things expand you got to let go of patterns
Speaker 1: that are limiting without getting too spaced out, you know,
Speaker 1: without becoming unmoored. So yeah, it's interesting. Nine people. They're
Speaker 1: here with you, and when they leave, they're gone. They
Speaker 1: have just left left. They take big steps, they're not clingers.
Speaker 2: Did any of you have any other questions before I
Speaker 2: keep asking stuff because I do have a few things,
Speaker 2: or did anybody want to say anything? I don't want
Speaker 2: to keep going on?
Speaker 1: Oh pop, then there.
Speaker 3: So an interesting part about the nine is there's a
Speaker 3: connection between Gene Roddenberry and ancient Greece, which comes to.
Speaker 1: Of this futurist vision.
Speaker 3: So if you go back to the Theogy, those stories
Speaker 3: about the gods were told to the writer by the
Speaker 3: nine muses, and so those nine muses sort of ushered
Speaker 3: in this new age of polytheism and all the rest
Speaker 3: of this stuff with the theogeny and uh, Gene Roddenberry
Speaker 3: was involved in this uh sort of a channeling group
Speaker 3: in England where they predicted the upcoming alien contact and
Speaker 3: he was inspired by that to write Star Trek and
Speaker 3: all the rest of the futurism that we kind of
Speaker 3: see on TV today. So The Nine almost inspired humanity
Speaker 3: to change directions in interesting ways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's beautiful, Yeah, because like just exactly what you're saying, brother,
Speaker 1: the nine is about that expansion, total expansion like that,
Speaker 1: and there's there's other aspects and nine energy, but that
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense to me. It really does
Speaker 1: that the people that want to go to the to
Speaker 1: the border, you know, to the extremes. Like my daughter
Speaker 1: is August ninth, So when we go to the playground,
Speaker 1: she goes as far as she can to the She
Speaker 1: doesn't cling, she goes out there. So that's what then
Speaker 1: nine energy is. That makes a lot of sense to me.
Speaker 1: And what's beautiful talking to people like you all is
Speaker 1: you all have some background information that I absolutely do
Speaker 1: not have. You know, I can. I've only learned what
Speaker 1: I've learned. But all of us together and that's again
Speaker 1: part of that sixties five. You know, we would sit
Speaker 1: around not like our parents, you know, talking about conventional stuff,
Speaker 1: but we'd hit some cannabis, get high and then we'd
Speaker 1: start sharing information. And that's been going on since then.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was beautiful.
Speaker 5: People were more mono thematic when you're thinking we're the sixties.
Speaker 5: Post sixties, everyone was all about synthesis of all these
Speaker 5: different great ideas bringing it all together.
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, and you know the beauty of it again,
Speaker 1: Like I said, it wasn't us because I remember Dylan
Speaker 1: saying a little while ago, he said, I can't write
Speaker 1: that shit anymore. We're channeling this stuff, like right now,
Speaker 1: what we're doing with this information. I mean, we got
Speaker 1: some stuff that's stored in our brains, but we're just
Speaker 1: channeling this life, you know, this cosmic information that's happening
Speaker 1: right while we're talking.
Speaker 2: I had Tommy chung On once and I had asked him.
Speaker 2: I forgot what I asked him. Something in his answer
Speaker 2: was that day he gets everything from channeling. He's tapped in,
Speaker 2: he's channeling, and that's where it all comes from them
Speaker 2: something kind of like like where he got his inspiration was.
Speaker 1: Something like Yeah. When I first heard that word back
Speaker 1: in the early nineties, I hated it. I thought this
Speaker 1: has got to be the most ridiculous thing I ever
Speaker 1: heard of. You What are you channeling Mother Mary, Jesus,
Speaker 1: you know, Jupiter, you know whatever. But I've taught yoga
Speaker 1: for five and a half decades. In every class I taught,
Speaker 1: I was channeling Yogi Badchen, who gave us Kungalidi yoga.
Speaker 1: He didn't read a script. He was channeling that energy.
Speaker 1: And if you want to just do something that's like
Speaker 1: teaching a class or something, you know, hill, you can
Speaker 1: go out in the middle of the ocean and stand
Speaker 1: on a life rapp by yourself and teach a class.
Speaker 1: Otherwise it's fresh and you're channeling it. So, yeah, it's
Speaker 1: interesting how that's all happening. But yeah, they channeled the music.
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't see Paul McCartney writing what he
Speaker 1: wrote back in the sixth decent. He's singing the same stuff,
Speaker 1: but he's not channeling the same urgy at all. And yeah,
Speaker 1: Chiji and Chong were brilliant, absolutely brilliant. I don't know
Speaker 1: how they came up with what they did. Look at
Speaker 1: George Carlin with the information that came through him. I
Speaker 1: was just channeling a whole bunch of truth and turning
Speaker 1: it into comedy channeling.
Speaker 9: The remote viewers point to ninees as being symbolic of humans,
Speaker 9: so when they they'll do little ideograms when they're doing
Speaker 9: their channeling, and the nine is a person.
Speaker 5: And it's similar to like we're in the wounds for
Speaker 5: nine months and so on.
Speaker 1: Just sorry, that's true too. I never thought about that
Speaker 1: the nine months too. And then what you shared with
Speaker 1: me about you know, the nine what was at sire
Speaker 1: or muses. Yeah, that's really interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's where we get the word music from.
Speaker 3: So music would be the inspiration from the muses. And
Speaker 3: that's right, Like frantsfers over into solidifies ideas in some ways.
Speaker 1: So like it's just a common dude, if some woman
Speaker 1: is playing music with that nine energy, you're gone. You surrender.
Speaker 1: You know, you're gonna have to let it go. Like
Speaker 1: it looks like a play button in the middle of
Speaker 1: this screen. Here should I hit that? Oh?
Speaker 2: I don't know for what. I don't even know where
Speaker 2: that's at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know either, because like right now, none
Speaker 1: of you all are moving. I can hear everybody, but
Speaker 1: you're good, Okay, I'm afraid to hit it.
Speaker 2: No, you're good. I just wait for us to come
Speaker 2: back as long as you can hear us so errows.
Speaker 2: You were going to say.
Speaker 7: Something, Oh, I was gonna say, Yeah, number nine is
Speaker 7: associated with Jupiter two, and Jupiter is also associated with
Speaker 7: three because it's tilted at at three degrees, So it's like,
Speaker 7: is it representing expansion from three to nine? I don't know,
Speaker 7: it's kind of interesting three.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Uh, that's a time I've never I didn't not know
Speaker 2: that about Jupiter with three degrees.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's the ninth house. It rules the ninth house
Speaker 7: in astrology of higher learning and expansion and long distance travel.
Speaker 2: Yeah, long distance travel. That's really interesting because I always
Speaker 2: say that I think, you know, I think the hero's
Speaker 2: journey I always claim is like I think to HOODI
Speaker 2: has like a path on the tree. If he's associated,
Speaker 2: you know, I would say that he starts where Mercury
Speaker 2: is on the tree of life, and where he ends
Speaker 2: where he where he ends up I think would be
Speaker 2: Jupiter at some point because it's a higher arc of Mercury.
Speaker 2: So what you said kind of makes sense, you know.
Speaker 7: Because we're opposite too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because Mercury is a traveler as well.
Speaker 7: So yeah, And in the zodiac, the third House is
Speaker 7: ruled by Mercury, and that's opposite the ninth House. It's
Speaker 7: just kind of interesting how it works. It's like they're
Speaker 7: the same energy, like half the same half opposite.
Speaker 2: I wonder if the uh, Yeah, it's interesting to wonder
Speaker 2: if make maybe the uh, the twelve cranial nerves actually
Speaker 2: have anything to do with the twelve zodiacs. Look at
Speaker 2: it like that. That sounds out out there, But.
Speaker 7: Because there are no coincidences, yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Know, because a lot of the messages you know, again,
Speaker 2: like I have even covered certain things, like in my opinion,
Speaker 2: I do think sometimes angels might actually be nerve systems
Speaker 2: because it's sending messages, you know. So I just wondered,
Speaker 2: when it comes to physiology or the occult, sometimes could
Speaker 2: angels or messengers actually be your nervous system. So looking
Speaker 2: at it like that, and then again that would have
Speaker 2: to do with the messages in the back and forth.
Speaker 2: That's the only reason why I was sorry nerd out
Speaker 2: on that one. Uh. I'll make more sense of it
Speaker 2: one day in the future. Tran Uh. There was oh
Speaker 2: before we had mentioned like an expansion and like the
Speaker 2: one and like the U. I guess the surrounding them
Speaker 2: did make me think of like the circumpunt which went back,
Speaker 2: you know to like a solar uh sigil, And again
Speaker 2: that even made me think of like possibly like information
Speaker 2: as well, you know what kind of stuff that me
Speaker 2: and headless were getting at earlier. And then in a
Speaker 2: some sense you think it also does like if you,
Speaker 2: I kind of want to look at it as an
Speaker 2: eyeball as well. So I don't know if any of that,
Speaker 2: if the solar stuff has anything to you know, hits
Speaker 2: on anything for you or that symbol, do you know
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about? The solar, the circumpunk, no, the
Speaker 2: so yeah, it's a circle with a dot in the middle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, that's a basic sacred geometry. There's a
Speaker 1: circle with a dot.
Speaker 2: What's your thoughts on that?
Speaker 1: Thing? That's uh which every one of us is all creation,
Speaker 1: everything that's manifest.
Speaker 2: Ethan when it comes to like the circumpunk, well.
Speaker 1: Not thing keeps saying Instagram. Yeah, And when those two
Speaker 1: individual circles combined or come together, that's what they call
Speaker 1: the vesica pisces, which is where the three comes from,
Speaker 1: and then all life comes from the three, like the
Speaker 1: Dowa day chings says, first the one, then the two,
Speaker 1: and from the two comes the three, and from the
Speaker 1: three comes everything, just like the triangle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's uh, that's almost where I was going to
Speaker 2: try to go with this again, thinking of like the
Speaker 2: eyeball and the circumpunct you have one eye, well technically
Speaker 2: that's you know, showing you one eye, but you have two,
Speaker 2: and then both of those eyes are actually giving you
Speaker 2: what you actually see and then that tells your brain.
Speaker 2: So technically have two, mixing it to three and then
Speaker 2: going back until you bring something. So I even see
Speaker 2: how like the one, two, and three can come even
Speaker 2: from your eyeball. With the circle bowl that.
Speaker 1: Was a little out there, but yeah, it's all interested
Speaker 1: yoga for so long. When you turn it inward, when
Speaker 1: you're teaching yoga, you realize your body is forming a
Speaker 1: bunch of triangles. Uh. That classic sitting pose in yoga,
Speaker 1: whether it's lotus or easy pose, and you've got both
Speaker 1: arms extended to your knees. That's a triangle from your
Speaker 1: wrists up to your third eye. Simple triangle. And just
Speaker 1: what you were saying about the two eyeballs, you can
Speaker 1: there's a triangle again from the two eyeballs up to
Speaker 1: the pineal gland where it all becomes one. Yeah. Like
Speaker 1: Jesus said, uh, you know, let di eye be single.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I forgot which part of the brain it is.
Speaker 2: It's like even a certain part. It's like, it's very,
Speaker 2: very important that it's a cellular structure, even switches over
Speaker 2: from hexagon to triangular. It's the only part of your brain.
Speaker 1: I think what it's been referred to as, like the
Speaker 1: third eye of the pineal gland, a single eye. Uh ethan, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was asking and give my darm screened.
Speaker 2: Really, it's still messed up, Jesus.
Speaker 1: Every everybody's frozen right now. Oh my, it's probably a
Speaker 1: crappy chromebook. I got to upgrade my equipment.
Speaker 5: We can we can hear you great's and you're coming
Speaker 5: through great. Well, that's what's important. And I was gonna say,
Speaker 5: and Tai they focus on well sometimes will make the
Speaker 5: consideration of being triangular from the center of the head
Speaker 5: and if you will, through the knees down to the feet.
Speaker 1: And every warrior stants too. And yoga is just all
Speaker 1: about being the triangle. That's interesting.
Speaker 10: Yep, yeah, yogi batch And that's how I got certified
Speaker 10: by in the early seventies, and you know, I remember
Speaker 10: a lot.
Speaker 1: That he said over the years, but he said, yoga's
Speaker 1: based basically a tech you know, a system of angles
Speaker 1: and triangles, and you can feel it when you're doing
Speaker 1: yoga too. Yeah, it's all geometry, like when we look
Speaker 1: at each other. I've thought about this. We already know
Speaker 1: that when we look at things, that it's actually coming
Speaker 1: in like cones into our eyes, like these triangular cones,
Speaker 1: and then our brain or something decodes that and turns
Speaker 1: it into images because we really don't see the images.
Speaker 1: And when we look at each other, I think we're
Speaker 1: measuring each other in triangles, like how far a part
Speaker 1: of a person's eyes are, how their face looks to us.
Speaker 1: The symmetry, it's all triangular. You know, it's very pleasing
Speaker 1: to us, or it's irregular and not as pleasing to us.
Speaker 2: I've heard. Is there anything? Is there anything else anybody
Speaker 2: wanted to ask to bring up? Oh so I didn't
Speaker 2: want to put you on the spot. Was there any
Speaker 2: other cycles that you knew or was that like the
Speaker 2: only one that's kind of big one that's happening right now.
Speaker 2: Kind of cool? My attention.
Speaker 6: I wish I've come across a couple but I know
Speaker 6: that this is like major, Like it's not like, you know,
Speaker 6: the change from Rome to Christianity and then from Christianity
Speaker 6: to colonialism.
Speaker 1: Uh. This there's stuff that we're collectively understanding, like a
Speaker 1: lot of people. And I just found out about this
Speaker 1: a couple of decades ago. Greg Braden really believes it
Speaker 1: or has introduced at Dreunvalow Michel's Dick people like that.
Speaker 1: But they postulate or whatever the word is, that two hundred,
Speaker 1: well two hundred thousand years ago we got a serious
Speaker 1: upgrade and it was a cosmic in intervention where some
Speaker 1: of our DNA was fused because we're not primates. There's
Speaker 1: a big difference between Chro magnum, ho Neanderthal and who
Speaker 1: we are. And it happened all at once. So this
Speaker 1: is something else like that, and I'm not really sure
Speaker 1: what it is, but I know we're on the verge
Speaker 1: of it. I feel like that Martin Luther King and
Speaker 1: Moses story where I see the Promised Land, but I'm
Speaker 1: not going there with you. I think those of us
Speaker 1: in this generation now we're getting a hint of where
Speaker 1: things are going. But there's really no way to see
Speaker 1: what the conclusion is where it's headed. But I know
Speaker 1: it's a major change from what's been happening for the
Speaker 1: last two hundred thousand years, and we only have about
Speaker 1: ten thousand years of that have recorded history. But what
Speaker 1: happens h and will I tune into the seven again?
Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking about the seven the
Speaker 1: Native Americans with the seven generations, So if we think
Speaker 1: seven generations from the sixties, we're into like the third
Speaker 1: or fourth generation right now, So think about you know,
Speaker 1: three more generations. I think it's going to be it's
Speaker 1: going to wipe out what we've known, the you know,
Speaker 1: business as usual, and it's going to be a totally
Speaker 1: different reality that people are going to be living. And
Speaker 1: me being almost eighty, I don't think I'm gonna see
Speaker 1: it and I'm going to see it happen, but I
Speaker 1: feel the change happening too for sure. Yeah, that's whether
Speaker 1: it's the twenty thousand year cycle that's coming back to
Speaker 1: its origin point, because everything spirals and comes back to
Speaker 1: its origin point. So I think that's what's happening. Is
Speaker 1: some these major cycles that could be very lengthy, very
Speaker 1: far reaching or coming back to their origin point and
Speaker 1: getting ready to go through another cycle, a more expanded cycle.
Speaker 2: Cosmic yeah, errows, Yeah, I was was there any other
Speaker 2: ones that you had happened to know about or anything?
Speaker 2: I know?
Speaker 7: How it is, Well, we are in the age of Aquarius,
Speaker 7: and Pluto's moving through Aquarius and that just started last year,
Speaker 7: and so that's like a nineteen year cycle. Those are
Speaker 7: big transformative cycles, and with it an Aquarius now it's
Speaker 7: definitely you know, that eleven energy, that Aquarius energy, like
Speaker 7: Uranus rules technology, electricity, it is that revolution respirit So
Speaker 7: I think that there will be a lot of I mean,
Speaker 7: it's just definitely perfect for the Age of Aquarius. There's
Speaker 7: gonna be a lot of of technological transformation, revolution or
Speaker 7: fighting back, some rebellion for sure. And then also you're
Speaker 7: Aquarius is also like.
Speaker 1: Goals, like.
Speaker 7: In a sense of like community goals, like like utopian ideals.
Speaker 7: I guess I can see them and like progressing towards
Speaker 7: those utopian ideals. So that's definitely happening, and that just started,
Speaker 7: so it should be interesting. Other than that, I mean,
Speaker 7: there's other things happening. Neptune just moved into areas and
Speaker 7: I forget how long Neptune is in signs, but a
Speaker 7: pretty decent amount of time, maybe seven to twelve years.
Speaker 7: Don't quote me on that, but that'll I guess with
Speaker 7: Neptune there you have some dissolving because that's what Neptune does.
Speaker 7: So yeah, a lot of change happening. But I would
Speaker 7: say the major cycles are probably that Pluto and Aquarius
Speaker 7: and then that Neptune and Saturn conjunction and areas. That's
Speaker 7: gonna be a big deal in February.
Speaker 2: M hm, well, thank you. I don't know any of
Speaker 2: that stuff. Uh hello, say either, was there anything that
Speaker 2: you wanted to ed or say before we wrap it up?
Speaker 1: I'm curious.
Speaker 5: Well, I don't want to mimic neck and saying I
Speaker 5: don't want to put you on the spot, Leon, but
Speaker 5: I'm wondering, how do you use sacred geometry and numerology
Speaker 5: in your life?
Speaker 1: And when what you do now? You uh, you know,
Speaker 1: use the for your balance progression or whatever. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell you. Honestly, as a person to person, I didn't
Speaker 1: know who I was. I used to think about things
Speaker 1: like why am I alive? What is life?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 1: I couldn't figure any of it. Out and when I
Speaker 1: got into this and I looked at my own chart,
Speaker 1: then it helped me a lot to understand who I was.
Speaker 1: And then we have to look at our personal history
Speaker 1: like I looked at mine, and then sequence of things
Speaker 1: happened that helped me a whole lot. My childhood was rough.
Speaker 1: I've been on own since I was seventeen. But I
Speaker 1: have a twenty two and eleven in my chart, and
Speaker 1: you know everybody is going to experience those energies differently,
Speaker 1: those frequencies. For me, starting something from nothing was normal,
Speaker 1: totally normal. I used to even have dreams about being
Speaker 1: in like an aircraft naked and dropped into a canopy
Speaker 1: of nothing but green freeze, and I was fine. So
Speaker 1: I've started businesses, I've started families. This numerology business I
Speaker 1: have a couple of years ago, I sat down on
Speaker 1: the sidewalk in Toddness and I got a piece of
Speaker 1: cardboard I wrote on in numerology and started taking donations.
Speaker 1: And now two years later I'm lecturing at hippocrites. So
Speaker 1: that's that twenty two energy and then my birth half
Speaker 1: number being eleven. We're freaks, we're nonconformists, like that, you're
Speaker 1: in this energy. So then I understood that, you know,
Speaker 1: there's no way I can be normal, you know, be conventional,
Speaker 1: and then I'm the rest of my numbers are five
Speaker 1: and two, the five energy, which is the initial foundational frequency.
Speaker 1: I'm a communicator. I've been teaching since I was seventeen.
Speaker 1: I didn't plan on it, but when I got into survival,
Speaker 1: I became a survival instructor and I was teaching. I
Speaker 1: was teaching survival men that were older, with more rank
Speaker 1: than I had, and when I ended up in the
Speaker 1: yoga schram, I was teaching, and I thought that for
Speaker 1: a long time. And now I'm doing this numerology and
Speaker 1: I'm teaching too, So yeah, it helps to do your
Speaker 1: numerology and understand what that energy is because we can't.
Speaker 1: That's and you know, to share some of this, especially
Speaker 1: with the arrows here. All of that energy is feminine,
Speaker 1: the only you know, creative energy. The bulk of it,
Speaker 1: if I don't know how to put in words, is
Speaker 1: feminine energy. We don't have babies, we're not born with aides,
Speaker 1: we don't call it farther earth. You know, it's feminine energy.
Speaker 1: The purpose of masculine energy is to provide containment and
Speaker 1: a way for that feminine energy to.
Speaker 2: Just be.
Speaker 1: So that's where the numerology is, is right in the center.
Speaker 1: So like in my case, it's five twenty two to eleven,
Speaker 1: and that's my creative energy. So yeah, I've had to
Speaker 1: finally come to grips with that and understand who I am.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't so accusational about myself, you know, so
Speaker 1: condemning self whatever that is. Man, we could talk about
Speaker 1: stuff like this forever. The word satan it comes from
Speaker 1: a Hebrew word haciton, and it means the accuser, and
Speaker 1: we all have that inside of us. We're accusing ourselves.
Speaker 1: So once you understand your numerology, you can kind of
Speaker 1: quiet that voice down and say that's the way God
Speaker 1: made me, you know, that's the way I am, that's
Speaker 1: my nature to be like that. So yeah, in my case,
Speaker 1: I had to accept that what that means, Yeah, it's yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like and what I've found is there you only
Speaker 1: got one soul. So astrology, numerology, I evedic, dosia, human design, mayan, calendar,
Speaker 1: it's all talking about one person. So you're going to
Speaker 1: see it overlapping and speaking in similar language about a
Speaker 1: person's frequencies.
Speaker 2: For sure.
Speaker 1: I just like numerology because it's simple. I think it's
Speaker 1: really basic and it's pretty accurate. But it doesn't answer questions.
Speaker 1: It's not going to tell a person when they should
Speaker 1: jump off a bridge on what day?
Speaker 2: Nothing like that, all right, I guess uh, Arrows and
Speaker 2: Headless and Ethan, you guys are good.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm just thinking about eleven now, and I feel
Speaker 7: like I can definitely feel that eleven energy. Like I think,
Speaker 7: as a collective consciousness, we're moving towards remembering how important
Speaker 7: community is and remembering how to form friendships and stuff
Speaker 7: like that. I think that's a big next step of humanity.
Speaker 7: I think that's going to be a big part of
Speaker 7: this Pluto and Aquarius.
Speaker 1: I know every generation too. That's really informative what you're
Speaker 1: adding there, those of us from the sixties. Pluto is
Speaker 1: in Leo, so we're bold, we're center stage. The poster
Speaker 1: child for that is Mick Jagger with the black shirt
Speaker 1: on with the Leo symbol on the black shirt at Altamont.
Speaker 1: And now, like you said, we're Pluto is going into Aquarius.
Speaker 1: That's bringing in the Aquarian age for sure, for everyone
Speaker 1: and it's really nice, really nice to see happen. I
Speaker 1: want to add this era so you understand it. In numerology, eleven,
Speaker 1: if it was not one of what they call master numbers,
Speaker 1: would break down reduced to a two one and one
Speaker 1: is two. Two can be any relationship, not just polarities,
Speaker 1: but it could be an imbalanced relationship like dominant and subordinate.
Speaker 1: If you look at eleven, it's two number ones. And
Speaker 1: that's what you're describing that we're going into this age
Speaker 1: or brotherhood of community where there's it's not slavery, it's
Speaker 1: not oppression, it's not dominance. But it's a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of us being number one, but able to be in
Speaker 1: community together. And that's well, that's the truth. And it's
Speaker 1: all like I said, we're just starting this stuff since
Speaker 1: the sixty I mean, I've been in a lot of communities.
Speaker 1: Most of them are you know, struggling or whatever, going
Speaker 1: through growing pains. You know. Most of the communes we
Speaker 1: started back in the sixties are not around anymore, or
Speaker 1: they've really changed. But each new generation now is refining
Speaker 1: that vibe, you know, so some of them a lot
Speaker 1: more successful. I spent a lot of time in Portugal
Speaker 1: last four years, and it's attracting a whole lot of
Speaker 1: people from all over Europe and from the United States
Speaker 1: to go to Portugal and start these intentional communities and
Speaker 1: live in them. And it's interesting why it's Portugal. My
Speaker 1: feelings on it is kind of what I'm experiencing here
Speaker 1: in Florida. I think the Atlantean vibe culture spread from
Speaker 1: that part of Europe and was connected to this part
Speaker 1: of the New World. So there's something that happening, and
Speaker 1: that's really significant that's happening here in southern Florida, and
Speaker 1: there's something significant that's happening in Portugal too, that's making
Speaker 1: it easy for us to make that transition. Yeah, you're
Speaker 1: right about that, And it's totally different than the way
Speaker 1: things have been. And again that comes out of the sixties.
Speaker 1: None of the generation before me, they weren't like, you know,
Speaker 1: we got to do we got to quit our jobs
Speaker 1: and go join a commune. That wasn't happening. But all
Speaker 1: of a sudden in the sixties, a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: people started doing that. And I got involved in one
Speaker 1: in Washington State called Tolstoy, which was real interesting because
Speaker 1: the guy started based on I had no knowledge about this,
Speaker 1: but Tolstoy's philosophy is about the way community should be.
Speaker 1: And it was called an anarchistic commune. We didn't have
Speaker 1: any leader, no government at all, and it was wild
Speaker 1: and wooly, but it was fun. It was really a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. And that's how I got a part
Speaker 1: of how I became a hippie. I was in the military.
Speaker 1: I went to a college lecture or event and there
Speaker 1: were hippies there from Tolsto, and I found out I
Speaker 1: could make teepees because I was a survival instructor. So
Speaker 1: we gravitated towards each other and I ended up making
Speaker 1: some of the first teepees they were on communes, and
Speaker 1: then that kind of flourished for a while. But yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the way I see it. I don't see it
Speaker 1: as it's going to play out for individuals, but we're
Speaker 1: taking what we know from Mother Earth, from being humans
Speaker 1: for you know, as long as we've been humans, as
Speaker 1: long as we've been part of this Earth family. And
Speaker 1: we've got this technology now which has hit you know,
Speaker 1: a really high peak, just like it did in Atlantis,
Speaker 1: and we have to fuse those two together and create
Speaker 1: something wonderful out of it, because we don't want to
Speaker 1: be groveling on the dirt and we don't want to
Speaker 1: be lost in some fiction. You know, it's got to
Speaker 1: be a synthesis. It's going to create this new human.
Speaker 2: Little sense. Yeah, I think if anybody else has anything
Speaker 2: to say or wrap it up, we don't let everybody
Speaker 2: plug that stuff before we get back to you, Lean
Speaker 2: and I'll let you plug everything that you got going
Speaker 2: on yourros since you are here now, I'll let you
Speaker 2: go first. Please let everybody know where they can find
Speaker 2: all your amazing work.
Speaker 7: You can find me on YouTube at Arrows Up, and
Speaker 7: you can find me on Twitter at arrows to eat
Speaker 7: those again, cover the any ads and I post about astrology.
Speaker 7: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: Nick, of course, yes, and definitely check her out on
Speaker 2: the coul Rejects. She's done the ayads with us twice.
Speaker 2: Maybe we could do that again in the future. I
Speaker 2: like that. But yeah, definitely check out his stuff. And
Speaker 2: I appreciate you coming on here and headless Giant Sir.
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Speaker 2: Thanks. Oh yeah, thank you very much, sir. And Ethan
Speaker 2: Indigo what is up, my man?
Speaker 1: Well, I appreciate you guys. That was awesome discussion.
Speaker 5: Leon, Thank you so much for sharing all that, especially
Speaker 5: the esoteric lesson of Satan right the how we accuse
Speaker 5: ourselves ourselves.
Speaker 1: That's that's a great idea.
Speaker 5: I'm easy to find online, Ethan Indigo Smith, and I
Speaker 5: appreciate communication anyone reaching out.
Speaker 1: So appreciate you guys.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, sir and last year I least Leon. Sorry,
Speaker 2: please let everybody know where they can find you if
Speaker 2: they're looking for you. Oh you know what, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I think my name you got me?
Speaker 2: Yep?
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, on Instagram with my name at Leon Bowski.
Speaker 1: I've got a website Sacred Geometry, Numerology and phone call
Speaker 1: you know, just get if you know anybody wants their
Speaker 1: chart done that would benefit from it. Please, I do
Speaker 1: video calls. I'll do the charts, send the picture and
Speaker 1: then we'll do a live reading of the person's chart,
Speaker 1: which a person can record and uh, yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: I'm doing.
Speaker 2: And you got Instagram as well, right, what's that You
Speaker 2: have an Instagram as well?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just had my name Leon Bowski and that's
Speaker 1: where I'm doing a lot of communication right now. There's
Speaker 1: some brilliant people on Instagram that I'm communicating with right now.
Speaker 1: I could share so much more, but we'll do it
Speaker 1: another time, Nick. But yeah, a lot of us are
Speaker 1: headed in the same direction. It's confusing for some people,
Speaker 1: but it's going to become more clear. Uh, the I
Speaker 1: call them jugger notts taking us into this golden age.
Speaker 1: One of them's veganism, and a lot of people become
Speaker 1: argument of about that, but it just basically means you
Speaker 1: don't kill. And then the second one sustainability, like the
Speaker 1: Native Americans say, you know, we're just visitors here. And
Speaker 1: then the third one is open source, which we're experiencing
Speaker 1: right now. So yeah, it's all.
Speaker 2: Good, okay, So yeah, I'll include those links, uh, those
Speaker 2: links in the show notes. And thank you very much
Speaker 2: for coming on, and again thank you everybody for jumping
Speaker 2: on as well.
Speaker 1: And yeah, thank you all. It's a pleasure meeting all
Speaker 2: Of y'all and thank you everybody that was in the
Speaker 2: live chat and until the next one, everybody be well
Speaker 2: later