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We've got all 41 00:01:37,879 --> 00:01:40,920 the sports kind of interchanging on top of each other 42 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,560 with football and basketball and so lots to do, lots 43 00:01:44,599 --> 00:01:44,959 going on. 44 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,159 Speaker 3: I love it, man. 45 00:01:46,159 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 2: Well, the most conturable thing, the controversial thing, happened yesterday 46 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,400 we have heard about a car crash early yesterday and 47 00:01:52,719 --> 00:01:55,239 it was confirmed that there was a car accident with 48 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,799 one of the BAU men's basketball players. What ensued after 49 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:04,560 that is that basketball player Kennard Davis Junior was taken 50 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:08,080 back to the police station was essentially arrested, I believe 51 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,759 for Duy, who's under investigations for Duy, and his vehicle 52 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:15,639 was impounded. He was later released to address some of 53 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,919 the minor injuries that he sustained in the car accident. 54 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:24,120 According to eyewitnesses, it was not his fault. He was 55 00:02:24,159 --> 00:02:26,400 the driver, but it was not his fault. Someone else 56 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,120 maybe ran a red light and impacted him. But he 57 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:34,800 was cited for driving under the influence. We don't know everything. 58 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,319 We don't know about what substance or you know, whether 59 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,919 it was a prescribed medication. You know, he had been 60 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:45,560 suffering through a achille soreness, kind of a lower extremity injury. 61 00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 3: He was held out of the Delaware game. 62 00:02:47,479 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 2: Could have been taking some anti anxiety or sleep medication 63 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,719 prior to boarding the flight that he was supposed to 64 00:02:53,759 --> 00:02:55,400 board in the next I don't know, ten fifteen to 65 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,520 twenty minutes as he was driving to Provo Airport to 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:59,840 hop on the charter. But what do you know about 67 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:03,879 what's occurred with Kennard Davis junior double d Well. 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 1: The first thing is we all need to kind of 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,879 hold off until we know all of the details for sure, 70 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,879 and the Provo police are supposed to be perhaps today 71 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:19,759 releasing more information. The other thing to consider is this 72 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:23,919 kind of thing happens all over the country, and with 73 00:03:24,039 --> 00:03:28,599 all kinds of athletes at BYU, it gets amplified quite 74 00:03:28,599 --> 00:03:31,639 a bit because of the honor code. So we do 75 00:03:31,719 --> 00:03:33,240 have to kind of hold off until we know all 76 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:38,479 the details. But certainly this is a new experience for 77 00:03:38,599 --> 00:03:42,199 Kevin Young to have to soldier through. I don't believe 78 00:03:42,199 --> 00:03:45,280 he's had anything happen even remotely close to this in 79 00:03:45,319 --> 00:03:48,280 the course of his one and a half years with 80 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:54,000 the program. And so not only the on court implications 81 00:03:54,360 --> 00:04:00,280 of not having someone that is a starter available, but 82 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:03,319 also the off court implications doesn't mean off the court 83 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:06,120 to the program and you know those kind of things. 84 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:09,360 So in the next few days we'll find that out. Unfortunately, 85 00:04:09,439 --> 00:04:11,960 it does happen the day before the Cougars are to 86 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:16,360 play number four or number three actually this week Yukon, 87 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,439 and so it is a distraction for the team as well. 88 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:24,079 So there's a lot of moving parts to this, you know, 89 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,560 in terms of how it impacts on the court. The 90 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,120 Cougars were already without Nate Pickens, who has gone for 91 00:04:30,199 --> 00:04:33,279 the year after having surgery. He's another one of those 92 00:04:33,319 --> 00:04:35,000 three and D kind of guys that be what you 93 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:39,439 recruited to play that sort of the defensive stop er, 94 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,639 three point shooter position, and that's what Kennar Davis had 95 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:45,639 shown he was able to do. Without both of those guys, 96 00:04:45,759 --> 00:04:48,240 now it falls to somebody else to step up and 97 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:51,000 take some of those minutes. They might have to adjust 98 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,759 the starting lineup obviously as well. When they did that 99 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,639 on earlier this week when they played Delaware, it was 100 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,160 kind of a disaster. They were down seventeen four to 101 00:05:01,199 --> 00:05:03,680 a team that lost to a Division two team just 102 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,800 a few days earlier. B Why you recovered in you know, 103 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:11,720 one by eighteen, I think, and so they recovered from that, 104 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:16,040 but it does upset kind of the system they're trying 105 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:20,439 to produce and the kind of thing that Kevin Young 106 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:23,439 wants to do to have a team that gets into 107 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,399 a routine. Then people know they're defined roles. So we're 108 00:05:27,439 --> 00:05:30,040 looking at maybe someone like Tyler Russ, who has not 109 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,800 shot the ball well so far this year, coming in 110 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 with a reputation and a shooter. He's six seven, can 111 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:41,600 play some of those those positions. Kadeem Boop has some skills, 112 00:05:41,639 --> 00:05:44,920 but he's pretty young in his basketball learning phase, and 113 00:05:44,959 --> 00:05:49,319 so this will be something to monitor on the court obviously, 114 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:51,720 as well as how it impacts the Cougars and off 115 00:05:51,759 --> 00:05:54,120 the court. We're just waiting for the Provo police to 116 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,600 clarify exactly what's going on. 117 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,199 Speaker 2: One thing I'll say about this is it's never justified 118 00:05:59,199 --> 00:06:03,040 to drive under the valance. Whether it's a prescribed medication. 119 00:06:03,199 --> 00:06:05,319 Let's say he was, you know, having trouble with sleep, 120 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,199 he was having trouble with soortness. Like I've taken certain 121 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:14,480 medications that impaired me. Whether it's ambient or it's a 122 00:06:14,959 --> 00:06:19,079 muscle relaxer or anti anxiety medication, you're still driving under 123 00:06:19,079 --> 00:06:19,480 the influent. 124 00:06:19,639 --> 00:06:20,399 Speaker 3: That is the baseline. 125 00:06:20,399 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: You should never get behind a vehicle and operate it 126 00:06:24,959 --> 00:06:28,120 if you are under any sort of prescribed and or 127 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,959 if you've drank alcohol or consumed illegal drugs, or even 128 00:06:32,959 --> 00:06:37,560 if it is legal, and it's THC based marijuana edibles, 129 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:38,240 whatever it is. 130 00:06:38,279 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 3: For whatever's been prescribing. 131 00:06:39,879 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 2: You cannot get behind the wheel and drive, okay, But 132 00:06:42,959 --> 00:06:46,839 these are things that from a moral stance within a 133 00:06:46,879 --> 00:06:50,639 community that is extremely conservative and religious, and even outside 134 00:06:50,879 --> 00:06:52,319 of that, people want to know about. 135 00:06:52,319 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: They want those details. 136 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,959 Speaker 2: Do you think that those details will come out about 137 00:06:57,319 --> 00:06:59,639 you know, whether or not he's at fault. It doesn't 138 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,480 sound like he was at fault for the incident, but 139 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:06,600 then he was later evaluated being under the influence and 140 00:07:06,720 --> 00:07:11,240 he was essentially, you know, held accountable for that. Whether 141 00:07:11,279 --> 00:07:13,079 it was prescribed or not, it doesn't matter. But what 142 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:14,720 other details do we need to know about this? 143 00:07:14,839 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: Do you think? Well? I think the point to make 144 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:21,959 here is that because this is a police matter, now 145 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:26,040 it's public record. B why you can't I don't want 146 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,800 to say hide it because I just they can't control 147 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:32,279 the message, is what I'm saying. So whatever comes from 148 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,120 the Pro Bowl police, any information is public record that 149 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,399 anybody can request, and you know that's it's going to 150 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:44,040 be made public exactly what happened. So that's one thing 151 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:49,120 to consider as we look at this. You know, this 152 00:07:49,279 --> 00:07:52,759 is not somebody who is you know, an eighteen or 153 00:07:52,839 --> 00:07:57,560 nineteen year old freshman Cannard Davis is a junior in eligibility. 154 00:07:57,519 --> 00:08:00,480 He's played two or three years already of college basketball, 155 00:08:01,639 --> 00:08:04,839 So it is it isn't somebody who's of age as well. 156 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,399 So what we need to know, I mean, you know, 157 00:08:08,439 --> 00:08:11,600 as far as a journalist, I want to know what happened, 158 00:08:12,079 --> 00:08:16,879 what what the control substance was, and and uh, you 159 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:19,800 know how how B WHYU tends to react in these 160 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:25,120 situations as it is related to the honor code is 161 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,600 also something that we don't know, and it may be 162 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:31,959 something that requires, you know, a couple of game suspension, 163 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,480 it may require more, we don't know. So until those 164 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,399 details are made and then this is interesting because B 165 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,200 why you can make a lot of decisions about honor 166 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,120 code issues that we don't know all the details about, 167 00:08:43,159 --> 00:08:46,000 and we see a two games suspension and we just think, Okay, 168 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:49,080 I guess that's all right. But this information is going 169 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,200 to come out and it's going to be public record. 170 00:08:51,519 --> 00:08:53,919 So how B why you react in this situation will 171 00:08:53,919 --> 00:08:55,240 be interesting to follow as well. 172 00:08:55,639 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt about it. You hate seeing this type 173 00:08:58,679 --> 00:09:02,720 of stuff. It's darnold you've been covering the coops for 174 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:07,120 a long time, right, There's been plenty of times that 175 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,039 you've been covering the team and they seem to be 176 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:14,120 on the right track basketball, football, and something like this happens. 177 00:09:14,279 --> 00:09:17,440 Individuals make poor decisions, could be an auto code violation, 178 00:09:17,519 --> 00:09:22,120 could be a legal issue, and it becomes a bit viral. 179 00:09:23,519 --> 00:09:26,960 You know, those that want to hate on BYU. It's 180 00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:32,200 honor code, it's it's policies they put funder the see 181 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:33,960 I told you so, they can't live up to their 182 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,480 own standards. And if they don't live up to those standards, 183 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:41,720 they're not they're not holding the individual accountable as they should, right, 184 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,279 that's what they want to say. And there's a lot 185 00:09:45,279 --> 00:09:48,519 of controversy that surrounds these issues. Now, this is a 186 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:51,600 legal issue, right, so it's a little bit different. There's 187 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,559 autocode issues and there's legal issues, and sometimes they cross 188 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,200 over and they're both. But you've been around the block 189 00:09:57,279 --> 00:10:00,240 many times. It's unfortunate when this stuff happens. 190 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,879 Speaker 1: You remember back when Brandon Davies, that situation rose up 191 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:09,679 when BYU was just about to be ranked number one 192 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,279 in the country. I think they were like three years something, 193 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:17,799 and the situation came to light and I did an 194 00:10:17,799 --> 00:10:22,399 interview with a national radio program, and the attitude of 195 00:10:22,399 --> 00:10:27,240 those interviewing me, they were just dumbfounded that anything that 196 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:33,840 in regards to a sexual act would be grounds for 197 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:36,200 dismissal from a team. I had a really hard time 198 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:38,679 explaining the honor Code to them over the phone because 199 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:42,840 they just didn't understand why that was a big deal. 200 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:47,080 And so the Honor Code, when it does interact with 201 00:10:47,279 --> 00:10:51,679 these legal matters, becomes, as you said, it becomes a viral. 202 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,679 People under they're like, well, why would you do that 203 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,879 to a college student? That's what being a college student 204 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,759 is all about. And how can they be so harsh 205 00:10:59,799 --> 00:11:03,080 on these young kids. Well, these young kids know exactly 206 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:06,039 what they're getting into. They sign the Honor Code. It's 207 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:10,279 clearly spelled out for them. And we, again, we don't 208 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,759 know all the details behind what's happening with Kennard Davis. 209 00:11:13,799 --> 00:11:16,840 And you know, if there's a penalty to be paid 210 00:11:16,879 --> 00:11:19,320 in terms of the Honor Code, he'll have to decide 211 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:22,080 if that's worth it to stay here or transfer, as 212 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:25,600 Jake Reslof did with football when he decided he didn't 213 00:11:25,639 --> 00:11:27,799 want to have that seven game suspension, his senior year, 214 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,480 and no one really blames him for leaving, So so 215 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,120 it is difficult sometimes to explain to the outside world 216 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,960 why this is important. And no one at b YU 217 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,519 was saying that they're better than anybody else. They just 218 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:43,840 try to hold themselves to a higher standard and when 219 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:49,480 they fail it becomes a topic of much derision by 220 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:53,519 youth fans especially. But anybody on social media that, well, look, 221 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,519 they can even live up to their own standards. 222 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 3: Yep. 223 00:11:56,720 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's always you know, there's always accountability and all 224 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,720 these things. And sure, you know, sometimes it's merited. Sometimes 225 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:08,240 I don't other times it's not. It's not merited from 226 00:12:08,279 --> 00:12:12,279 from those that are accusatory in nature. But Darnell, where 227 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:14,440 does by you go from here? Like let's say Canard, 228 00:12:14,519 --> 00:12:16,960 Let's say worst case scenario, Cannard is not playing basketball 229 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,720 for BAU this year due to this. 230 00:12:21,919 --> 00:12:23,799 Speaker 3: What does that spell for for b A and A. 231 00:12:23,879 --> 00:12:27,399 Speaker 2: Pickens now officially out due to injury, he's done. Connard 232 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:31,360 Davis Junior also a prized possession via the portal. How 233 00:12:31,399 --> 00:12:34,679 good is BAU basketball without Nate Pickens and Cannard Davis Junior. 234 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: It's interesting to note, and we've heard Kevin Young say 235 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,679 this several times that this roster was built specifically to 236 00:12:44,759 --> 00:12:48,279 address certain things that that came up last year in 237 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,399 terms of defense, in terms excuse me, in terms of 238 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,919 the three point shooting, in terms of the rotation, last 239 00:12:57,960 --> 00:12:59,720 year's team was eleven deep, and that it was a 240 00:12:59,759 --> 00:13:02,720 really big deal. This year's team probably not going to 241 00:13:02,799 --> 00:13:06,039 be that same level of depth in terms of the rotation. 242 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,240 The scoring we've seen in the first few games has 243 00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:14,480 pretty much been a Richie Saunders and Robert Wright the 244 00:13:14,519 --> 00:13:17,840 third and AJ Devonsa. They're the big three. They scored 245 00:13:17,919 --> 00:13:23,320 seventy of the eighty five against against Delaware the other night, 246 00:13:23,399 --> 00:13:28,000 So scoring wise, probably it doesn't impact as much as 247 00:13:28,039 --> 00:13:32,080 it does defensively. And as I mentioned, Tom ross In, 248 00:13:32,159 --> 00:13:35,559 the six foot seven inch junior, who told me when 249 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:39,120 I interviewed him this spring after he signed Boyu that 250 00:13:39,399 --> 00:13:42,080 he really prides himself on his defense, and he came 251 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,919 in with the reputation as a three point shooter. He 252 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,399 struggled with his three point shooting so far. Kadam Boop 253 00:13:47,799 --> 00:13:51,080 at six point nine is a really good talent, but 254 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:54,240 obviously just kind of early in his development as a player. 255 00:13:54,720 --> 00:14:00,600 He might have to accelerate his learning and excel his 256 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:05,720 ability to contribute Alexi Costik to another guy who has 257 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,000 international experience, a really good three point shooter, he may 258 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:10,399 have to step up this game. So there are some 259 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:14,320 options there, but it does mess with kind of the 260 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:16,960 way and even Kevin Young has admitted over the course 261 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,759 of this preseason he's still learning about this team, because 262 00:14:20,799 --> 00:14:22,159 we ask him, you know, what have you learned in 263 00:14:22,159 --> 00:14:23,799 the first three games, and he's like, I'm still kind 264 00:14:23,799 --> 00:14:27,639 of learning how to approach these guys, how to go 265 00:14:27,679 --> 00:14:29,960 through the rotation, the best plays that work for them, 266 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,279 all those things, and that has to be adjusted now. 267 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:36,000 And going into a game against Yukon on Saturday does 268 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,200 make that a little bit problematic because now you're asking 269 00:14:39,279 --> 00:14:43,320 other players to step up in their roles against a 270 00:14:43,399 --> 00:14:46,360 top ten team. And so as we take in that 271 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:49,679 game tomorrow, we'll see kind of how Kevin Young wants 272 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:52,399 wants to run that and that may change over the 273 00:14:52,399 --> 00:14:54,600 course of the next couple of weeks as we find 274 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:59,120 out more about Kennar Davis and as other players learn 275 00:14:59,159 --> 00:15:02,000 about their roles. Many deal Monday another guy who is 276 00:15:02,080 --> 00:15:04,159 kind of young in his basketball development, but a lot 277 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:06,720 of potential. Again, those players are going to have to 278 00:15:06,919 --> 00:15:10,039 accelerate what they can do if BYU wants to stay 279 00:15:10,039 --> 00:15:13,000 in the top ten and continue to go along their 280 00:15:13,039 --> 00:15:17,200 path to get to the NCAA Tournament and advance quota. 281 00:15:17,799 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 2: Who I think be what you basketball this year is 282 00:15:21,519 --> 00:15:24,000 to get to I think an Elite eight. I think 283 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,120 that's quota maybe Sweet sixteen. I don't know how you 284 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,440 feel about that. Just quote it then well yeah, and 285 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,000 I mean, look, no, I think that that's the hope. 286 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 3: I don't know if that's I don't know if that's quota, right. 287 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,519 Speaker 2: I think I think getting to an Elite eight is 288 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,039 probably quota. You got Sweet sixteen last year? One step, 289 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:43,000 one more step in the right Jorge now AJ wants 290 00:15:43,039 --> 00:15:44,480 to win a Natty. If you don't win a Natty, 291 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:47,320 then it's a failed season. So but let's say that 292 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:52,039 quota's Elite eight. Does Canardievis Junior's absence in Nate Pickens's 293 00:15:52,039 --> 00:15:55,080 absence lead you to believe that quota maybe should change. 294 00:15:55,279 --> 00:15:58,480 Should the expectation change to more of a Sweet sixteen 295 00:15:58,519 --> 00:15:59,320 type of run this year. 296 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:02,679 Speaker 1: I don't think the expectation will change, but I do 297 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:06,159 think it creates the problem in reaching that quota. I 298 00:16:06,159 --> 00:16:09,639 really think that, again, this team was built to take 299 00:16:09,679 --> 00:16:12,960 advantage of the skills of the players on the roster, 300 00:16:13,559 --> 00:16:16,279 and as we go into a little further into the 301 00:16:16,399 --> 00:16:20,519 nil era and the transfer portal era, every team is 302 00:16:20,559 --> 00:16:24,000 doing this and to some extent, whether it's replacing five 303 00:16:24,039 --> 00:16:29,039 guys or twelve guys, you build the roster to take 304 00:16:29,039 --> 00:16:31,919 advantage of what you think that team can do, and 305 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,480 adjusting mid stride is difficult. I don't think the expectations 306 00:16:36,519 --> 00:16:39,279 will change, but I do think that it's going to 307 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,480 be a lot more difficult if Canara Davis isn't able 308 00:16:42,519 --> 00:16:44,879 to play this year, or even you know, for a 309 00:16:44,879 --> 00:16:47,159 few games, if you suspended. We don't know how that 310 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,559 will play out, but that will make it harder for 311 00:16:49,639 --> 00:16:51,799 them to reach any of their goals. 312 00:16:52,799 --> 00:16:57,320 Speaker 2: Do we have any president set within BYU's athletic department 313 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:02,639 for legal issues such as this, How the honor code 314 00:17:02,919 --> 00:17:08,200 or BYU's basketball or athletic department or its institution will 315 00:17:08,279 --> 00:17:11,200 react to these situations? 316 00:17:11,279 --> 00:17:12,279 Speaker 3: Do what's the president? 317 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: Because like when the j rst LAF thing came down, 318 00:17:14,519 --> 00:17:17,039 it was like like I got calls, right, I got 319 00:17:17,079 --> 00:17:19,720 plenty of calls like, hey, well, Brandon Davies, you know 320 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,960 you have that one. So he's got to you know, 321 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,960 he's got to be suspended, can't play, You should be 322 00:17:26,039 --> 00:17:27,319 kicked out of school, like you know what I mean, 323 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,519 Like people want to hold you to you know, these 324 00:17:29,559 --> 00:17:31,720 prior standards. So do you think there has been a 325 00:17:31,759 --> 00:17:34,759 president's stet for legal issues such as this. 326 00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,799 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think there's been enough 327 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:43,240 empirical evidence to show this is how BYU will react. 328 00:17:43,759 --> 00:17:47,720 And the other thing to consider ben is Connar Davis 329 00:17:47,799 --> 00:17:52,400 is being paid to play basketball at BYU. I mean, 330 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:56,039 I don't know how that changes things, but I certainly 331 00:17:56,079 --> 00:18:01,559 think that it's it's a consideration in terms of of accountability. 332 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:06,240 What does it mean for a college student who is 333 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:11,039 not on scholarship and working three jobs and gets in 334 00:18:11,079 --> 00:18:14,920 trouble as opposed to an athlete who is very visible 335 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,599 and is being paid in the nil era to compete 336 00:18:18,599 --> 00:18:21,400 at BYU. I don't know, but I don't think that 337 00:18:21,519 --> 00:18:24,240 this is something that you can look back and say 338 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:25,880 this is how BAU is going to react to this. 339 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:29,720 I think it's unprecedented and it will be interesting to 340 00:18:29,759 --> 00:18:33,359 see the results as we move further into this process. 341 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 2: Donald Dixon, Darnelle, best way to support you what you do, 342 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,039 how you do it. 343 00:18:37,079 --> 00:18:38,759 Speaker 3: Appreciate you hopping out for a cougar. 344 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,799 Speaker 1: Beat Darnell Dixon. Yeah, me, I I write for the paper. 345 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:46,079 Check this out, Ben, You're gonna love this. I talked 346 00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:49,640 to Johnny Harlen a couple of days ago. I know 347 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,480 he's he and you were instrumental in this. He's gonna 348 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:56,559 play the national anthem at the TCU game on his 349 00:18:56,599 --> 00:19:01,160 guitar on Saturday, and it was a great story. I 350 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,920 love writing about this because Johnny he could have walked 351 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:07,680 into Brian Santiago's office and said, hey, I want to 352 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:11,559 play the national anthem. Instead, he went to a cattle 353 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:15,519 call audition this summer with about one hundred other musicians 354 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:20,319 auditioned to play the national anthem before by you ev 355 00:19:20,519 --> 00:19:23,519 it's crazy that that Johnny would do. But you know, Johnny, 356 00:19:23,559 --> 00:19:26,160 he's not gonna do you know who I am, and 357 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:29,160 that's not him. But I just find it interesting that 358 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,400 he would. Yeah, I'm just gonna go wear a name 359 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,000 tag that says HI, my name is Johnny and audition 360 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,240 to play the national It's gonna be fantastic. I can't 361 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:42,119 wait Saturday to hear his rendition of the national anthem 362 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:42,799 on his guitar. 363 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I've been I've been promoting this for 364 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:47,400 a while. I chatted with a number of indiviual Hey. 365 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,319 I was like, guys, like, this needs to happen. I 366 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,559 need to get my my face melted by a guitar 367 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:56,039 solo at Lavelle Edwards Stadium. 368 00:19:56,079 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 3: I need it. 369 00:19:56,720 --> 00:20:00,599 Speaker 1: I want it gonna It's gonna be you know what 370 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,000 I mean. 371 00:20:01,039 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: So I've tried, look without stepping on anyone's toes too, 372 00:20:04,279 --> 00:20:05,599 cause you know how it is. It's like, you know, 373 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,440 you know, you bring up certain things and you don't 374 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,440 want to be the guy. Ah Ben's kind of pushing 375 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,079 this thing a little bit too far. I'm like, guy, 376 00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:14,200 it's like it's just it's gonna be great. Everyone's gonna 377 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,960 be grateful for it. He's a legend. He's one of 378 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,160 the best who've done it in Royal Blue and he's phenomenal, 379 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,119 phenomenal on the guitar. Johnny Harlen has the largest hands 380 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,480 I've ever seen in my life, and he has so 381 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,920 much dexterity on that guitar. I've seen Johnny play live 382 00:20:30,039 --> 00:20:34,440 multiple times like he rips it bro he melts faces 383 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,519 with that guitar, So it's gonna be glorious anyways, Darnell, 384 00:20:37,599 --> 00:20:40,119 love and appreciate you. Appreciate you writing about Johnny Harlean 385 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,319 playing the national anthem at the TCU game. 386 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:43,759 Speaker 3: We'll see you there in the press. 387 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,799 Speaker 1: Box, yep, harolextra dot com. 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