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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Jewish History Uncensored with Mark Shapiro. This is

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<v Speaker 1>season sixteen, episode twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>It's November twenty third. Okay, it's eight thirty one, so

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<v Speaker 2>only begin. I'll I'll respond to a few things. I

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<v Speaker 2>try to begin the new stuff by eight forty five,

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<v Speaker 2>so we'll see how far I get. First, I'm surprised

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<v Speaker 2>only one of you pointed out it was over Bayla

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<v Speaker 2>from Israel, who was a student in his youth at

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<v Speaker 2>RJJ that that also proceeds MTJ, that it goes back

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<v Speaker 2>to nineteen o three as an elementary school. I was

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<v Speaker 2>we were talking about this thing Minha and Schilano, and

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<v Speaker 2>I did notice that they have a girls program, although

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<v Speaker 2>you don't see many pictures, maybe for seneos reasons. But

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<v Speaker 2>regarding this and the whole issue of going off the path,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, I showed you the video last week

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<v Speaker 2>ORB by Aidolstein. Eli Turko emails that it's not so

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<v Speaker 2>simple because despite what Rabbi Aedolstein says, he says, there

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<v Speaker 2>are organizations in Israel to deal with the Karadi will

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<v Speaker 2>join Naha Hadi and are literally thrown out of their houses.

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<v Speaker 2>So despite what you saw from Rabbi Aiolstein. He says

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<v Speaker 2>that it still is a big problem there. Now, I

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<v Speaker 2>showed you this organization Mina and Shilanu, which is by

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbi Abadi's son, and we dealt with Rabbi Abadhi. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to point out something else I think you'll find

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<v Speaker 2>interesting that the father, Rabbai Abadi the post Sake, actually

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<v Speaker 2>has a enough and we dealt with him a good

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<v Speaker 2>deal earlier in these horses, has a good as a

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<v Speaker 2>as a future vote that really focused maybe because he's

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<v Speaker 2>from astartic background that focus on not Yeshiva people, but

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<v Speaker 2>let's say the outsiders or the regular people, and has

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<v Speaker 2>certain leniencies precisely in order to keep them in the fold,

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<v Speaker 2>the sort of hush cuff I guess that would lead

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<v Speaker 2>to this organization I have. There's there's a number of them,

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<v Speaker 2>but one in particular I think you'll find interesting. And

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<v Speaker 2>let me stop sharing and then open up again and

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<v Speaker 2>share you another exhibition if I can get it on

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<v Speaker 2>my screen here here it is. You should be able

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<v Speaker 2>to see this now, okay. Rabbi a Body has a

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<v Speaker 2>response in his book or Ysla, in which he explains

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<v Speaker 2>how it's a big problem because people don't like to bench.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says, for there, for instance, they and they

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<v Speaker 2>don't like to wash because then they'll have to bench.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says it's a problem. For example, with pizza,

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<v Speaker 2>he will that you have to make hamotes no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how much pizza you have. When I was in yeshiva,

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<v Speaker 2>they told us that you have two slices, it's Mazono's

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<v Speaker 2>three slices. It's hamosi, So you need two slices, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can keep doing that. I have six

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<v Speaker 2>slices if you want. But he thinks that that's a fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>He thinks you have to make hamosi on any pizza

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<v Speaker 2>you have any But he speaks about the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>people don't like benching. Because they don't like benching, they

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<v Speaker 2>won't wash on things even if they should be. So

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<v Speaker 2>he published an a bridge bencher. The what you see there,

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<v Speaker 2>it's you can see my picture. It's this size. But

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<v Speaker 2>you can also get a pocket size for your wallet.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually got them. I got got the one I

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<v Speaker 2>have from Minachean. A friend of mine went to get

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<v Speaker 2>it and and people use it. He says at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>hear I'll enlarge it that. He says this Bert got

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<v Speaker 2>the muzzle is based on the rock bum and the others.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's difficult for you to say the whole mussa,

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<v Speaker 2>you can use this even la jakila. That is, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not like in an emergency situation if you don't have time.

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<v Speaker 2>And he says better a little with kavana than a

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<v Speaker 2>lot with that, not cavana. So I tell you that,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can say that with my sons. I have

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<v Speaker 2>them just say this, because with this it's not we

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<v Speaker 2>say it together. It's even sometimes Friday night. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you can say this every word and you can say

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<v Speaker 2>with kavana. So maybe others would say it's not the

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<v Speaker 2>best thing to do, but he holds it is. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I was in flot plish ones for shabs even

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<v Speaker 2>shabus lunch, they took this out for the benching. So

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<v Speaker 2>but this is an example of how he has other

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<v Speaker 2>chuva like this as well, that you know, to look

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<v Speaker 2>out for the people, the average person, and it's hard

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<v Speaker 2>to have covanna for the whole. I mean, let's be

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<v Speaker 2>honest when we say benching, don't we zoom throw it

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<v Speaker 2>off in this So that's his whole point, and you

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<v Speaker 2>can read the chouvah on or it's not volume one

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<v Speaker 2>that you know you have everything you need here. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you're gonna say this with kavan versus saying the

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<v Speaker 2>long one where you zoom through it, everyone has to

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<v Speaker 2>know themselves obviously.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The problem is that, as someone has pointed out to

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<v Speaker 2>me a rabbi, actually, uh that if like you're at

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<v Speaker 2>a pizza shop or something, you take this thing out,

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<v Speaker 2>you gotta you gotta spend longer because people will think

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<v Speaker 2>they won't know you have the abridged one, and you'll

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<v Speaker 2>go very fast. They'll think you didn't have any real kavana.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh so that's as I said that that relates

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<v Speaker 2>I think you were speaking about also towards the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the class, Rabbi Kellman. Actually before you get to

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<v Speaker 2>Rabbi Kelman, well, well, he actually just the two things Robykelman.

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<v Speaker 2>The first thing he was saying speaking about we call

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<v Speaker 2>women learning tomorrow and he meant you we got into

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit. I mentioned that perhaps with women studying

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<v Speaker 2>we'll have new insights. Things like that, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>show you something, which be fine to hear. I have

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<v Speaker 2>so much stuff I want to show you here. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to my art and second, okay, so you have

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<v Speaker 2>all these institutes for women's tourist study in Israel. For

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<v Speaker 2>the women, they're almost always called Midresshat, which it's weird

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<v Speaker 2>because even like Lindenbaumo, which really functions as the Yeshiva,

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<v Speaker 2>they call it me Dressia. Midelos calls itself a bait

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<v Speaker 2>me drush. They don't call yeshiva. I don't. I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>sure again why if they have the problem called in yeshiva.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's jurisha yeshiva drisha in is in Israel now

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<v Speaker 2>and you can see it says Yeshiva drisha you have

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<v Speaker 2>all the teachers are named rabanit. We spoke about this

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<v Speaker 2>phrase rabanit. Although you there are people if you graduate,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, from Mahrat or Midrashharel in Israel, you get

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<v Speaker 2>a diploma. But the term maharit in Israel just means

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<v Speaker 2>a woman who teaches toru. There's no actual test or anything.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a tourret teacher. But that's actually like the

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<v Speaker 2>men in many ard yeshivas. If you study for a

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<v Speaker 2>number of years, when you get married to leave yeshiva

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<v Speaker 2>or after cod well, they give you the title rabbi. So,

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<v Speaker 2>but you noticed that this would ever work in America.

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<v Speaker 2>In America we're told you're not allowed to use the

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<v Speaker 2>term And did they use the term rob undead even

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<v Speaker 2>at the mainstream places like Glynden Bauden. This would be

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<v Speaker 2>more on the left. So that's that's of interest. Also

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<v Speaker 2>note that, well, first of all, they call the women

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<v Speaker 2>kamara rebbees ra meat. That makes no sense at all.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, ram is not a word. Ram is

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<v Speaker 2>an abbreviation for rash matift or roch matifta so. And

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<v Speaker 2>second of all, even if it was a word, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the it ending is a diminutive. So you have cough

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<v Speaker 2>kap eat that's or sak eat. If you say ram

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<v Speaker 2>ram meat, then you're saying that the women rebbees are

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<v Speaker 2>lesser than the male rebbies, which they certainly don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to say. If anything, you would be ram rama like

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<v Speaker 2>rov raba or something like that. But h and also

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<v Speaker 2>notice the head of it. There's two heads. They're called roch.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess they are ro syeshiva. But I think David

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<v Speaker 2>Reisen could correct me. Uh. I believe the rule is

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<v Speaker 2>today that if Sippy Liveney or anyone else shaki becomes

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<v Speaker 2>prime minister. I think Shakid is more of a chance

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<v Speaker 2>than live me. She would be called uh a rochat

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<v Speaker 2>rochat memchella, rochchat yeshiva. So uh, that's of interest. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing is that towards the end, Rabbi Kelman

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<v Speaker 2>asked about just to let you know what he's talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I was speaking about and I'll speak a barn again

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<v Speaker 2>for a minute, and he said, is that related to Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Here let me show you what Heilman spoke about in

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<v Speaker 2>this book Who Will Lead Us? Uh? It's the story

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<v Speaker 2>of five Pacific dynasties in America, and you could read

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<v Speaker 2>here about uh the monkkatch. The chapter is called an

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<v Speaker 2>edible challenge because if you know the issue with the

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<v Speaker 2>monk coach, of the conflict between the father and son

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<v Speaker 2>and b above there's a clash and Stmar, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>clash Sotmar Somr is in the news. Obviously raeb I

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned it just a few minutes ago. It's unbelievable, the

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<v Speaker 2>insanity to have a wedding, secret wedding of seven thousand

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<v Speaker 2>people and then to write about it. And but what

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<v Speaker 2>this shows you with something I think significant that Sotmar

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<v Speaker 2>despite all the talk about how we're in Gaulas and

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<v Speaker 2>how we can't do anything that creates problems with the

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<v Speaker 2>non juices correspond. I mean, they feel like they're in America.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't feel like they're in Gaulus. Not only do

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<v Speaker 2>they have the wedding, then ask to the fact they

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<v Speaker 2>write about it basically to give the finger to the

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<v Speaker 2>governor and the mayor, to show that they don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>If that doesn't show that they feel like they are

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<v Speaker 2>in America and they're like everyone else, they don't feel

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<v Speaker 2>if the Hispanics and the Irish and everyone else could

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<v Speaker 2>do what they do, that Nate can be out there

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<v Speaker 2>and blatantly violate the government rules and say, well, we

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<v Speaker 2>don't care. So that's that. It's amazing thing. It shows

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<v Speaker 2>you well, even with their outer Garbon language, they still

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<v Speaker 2>have assimilated to a certain extent. And then there's a

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<v Speaker 2>chapter in here on Beyond and Capittion. It's called running

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<v Speaker 2>out of Rebby's and so it's Beyond b o y An.

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<v Speaker 2>They have a base Micro's show in the Upper West Side,

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<v Speaker 2>and the whole story of the Beyond Your Dynasty. What

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<v Speaker 2>happened was the son in law was Professor Breyer of Yu.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted to make him rebby, but he says he's

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<v Speaker 2>not really suited to be the rebby, so it's his son.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course when you have a situation like this,

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<v Speaker 2>they had this in Munkach. Also they have to train

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<v Speaker 2>the young person to be a rebby. As for let

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<v Speaker 2>me pull this up again, I wanted to clarify something. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>here he is. Here's a picture of Boyarin, a major,

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<v Speaker 2>major scholar, no question about it. I wasn't actually I

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<v Speaker 2>listened to what I said, and I wasn't so clear

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<v Speaker 2>in one thing. So let me clarify. I think I

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<v Speaker 2>said something like. He also offers an addition to his

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<v Speaker 2>standard writings about early Judaism. And also he wrote something

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<v Speaker 2>under Compton the late I guess late we shown in Spain,

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<v Speaker 2>but I said, gayperd What do I mean by gay perspectives? Well,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, he edited a book called Queer Theory

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<v Speaker 2>and the Jewish Question, and he has an essay in there.

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<v Speaker 2>But he wrote a book called Unheroic Conduct, The Rise

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<v Speaker 2>of Heterosexuality in the Invention of a Jewish Man. And

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<v Speaker 2>what his argument is that, well, what does he say?

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<v Speaker 2>He offers an alternative to the prevailing Euro American were

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<v Speaker 2>your patriarch model of masculinity, and recovers the Jewish ideal

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<v Speaker 2>of the gentle, receptive male, and his point basically is

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<v Speaker 2>that what heterosexuality models as masculine, we don't have that

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<v Speaker 2>in the Jewish tradition. On the contrary, the effeminatest man,

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<v Speaker 2>Bore and contends that the Zionists fight against popular antisemitic

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<v Speaker 2>characterizations included an aggressive heterosexualizing agenda that sought to sever

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<v Speaker 2>the legitizing jewishness, effeminacy and ultimately homosexuality, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>So you can read off that if you're at all interested.

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<v Speaker 2>And finally, we have two more minutes. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>about this Braha the Becos colonname where it says coach

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<v Speaker 2>of hostineso a'morala hen and I mentioned that yoda abda

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<v Speaker 2>in Italy. He explained that word i'm more. Why do

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<v Speaker 2>we say in the Berco's coeneme to bless ava, to

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<v Speaker 2>bless the Jews with love? And he said, because the

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<v Speaker 2>in in the Zoar, it says this is quoted in

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<v Speaker 2>the Mission of Burra, that if the coing does not

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<v Speaker 2>not permitted to do bercross coedine. That's in the Zmar.

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<v Speaker 2>them to do Berkers cohening, We understand if you hate

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<v Speaker 2>you have reasoned to Hayden, Let's say he's a moser

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<v Speaker 2>one seventy six and one final issue about Amor Amore.

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<v Speaker 2>As I'm looking, I can't help five bezuply that's some water.

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<v Speaker 2>So you see, Amori. We all know it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pronounce it he be Riki. I think in Italian they

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<v Speaker 2>say Ricci. He wrote capitalistic works, other works. He's unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>and Jaminitsky and not speaking leaving aside the halo ofpus Kaminiski.

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<v Speaker 2>Godoli who are actually murdered. But in his sparring he

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<v Speaker 2>has rhymes, riddles, and he has a riddle. Now if

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<v Speaker 2>you're wondering what's going on, a whole riddle about uh

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<v Speaker 2>love about d Amar. And this, by the way, is an

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<v Speaker 2>example of amor man and wife. You think that's strangeness, say,

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<v Speaker 2>for I can tell you lots of strange things. And

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<v Speaker 2>a sword blade. Now that our love has grown weak,

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<v Speaker 2>a bed of sixty cubits is not large enough for us.

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<v Speaker 2>So there you have the sword. And if you read

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<v Speaker 2>it out. It's like fire burning in water. All the posing,

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<v Speaker 2>a hious person. Won't do it, the whole thing, whole description.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a riddle. And then you have the the pay

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<v Speaker 2>rush and he explains that it all goes back to amor. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>everything he describes up there is amor and above he

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<v Speaker 2>and then he tells you, uh, don't think it's strange. Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>that I'm interpreting a romance word. Let's a French, Italian

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<v Speaker 2>which means it can be interpreted in accordance with these languages.

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<v Speaker 2>With Latin, with Arabic, Uh, with Arabaic, and if he

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<v Speaker 2>Hebrew obviously, so uh, I don't know what to make

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<v Speaker 2>of that, how to understand that mid rush exactly? I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's unlostly understood literally, But that's so, that's what

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<v Speaker 2>he says. So uh. Remember Amar or Amar in French,

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<v Speaker 2>his real name is not Dean Martin. He has a

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<v Speaker 2>good Italian name. We now turn to the safe. We're

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<v Speaker 2>in the new section here Simon Cook, one hundred Kikusulfame,

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<v Speaker 2>page two twenty three. And before we begin, I have

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<v Speaker 2>to take you back to the screen because we have

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<v Speaker 2>to look at something important here. What is that? Let's

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<v Speaker 2>see where is it? The Ten Commandments. Before we understand

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<v Speaker 2>what we're going to be looking at the next juvo,

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<v Speaker 2>we have to look, for instance, at the ten Commandments.

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<v Speaker 2>And the ten Commandments are a problem. Let's speak about Shimosa.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I'm not in the Varti because first of all, well,

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<v Speaker 2>just even before we start, you read this, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything about ten right here, and if you look

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<v Speaker 2>at it, you count it, you get to a lot

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<v Speaker 2>more than ten. On the other hand, later in Chamos

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<v Speaker 2>and a few other places as well, it says, so

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<v Speaker 2>where is it here? This is in Perk right at

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<v Speaker 2>the end Peric thirty four. Yes, and so passer It

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<v Speaker 2>says that A sarah hudsvaren that he wrote the tablets,

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<v Speaker 2>the tables with ten words, okay, not mits, vote, not commandments.

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<v Speaker 2>Ten words. Later on we'll get to this varien what

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<v Speaker 2>that means. So let's get back to this then. So

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<v Speaker 2>we know there's ten, the question is which ten? What

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<v Speaker 2>are the ten? Now? All many of our souls have

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<v Speaker 2>the ten commandments listed. They have them on the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the aran kodas. Often they're they have like on

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<v Speaker 2>the top the circular, which is not traditionally Jewish. That's

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<v Speaker 2>that comes from art. There's no reason to assume they're

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<v Speaker 2>like that. However, if you go to most synagogues, the

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<v Speaker 2>first midst so they'll have is an nohri, I'm the

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<v Speaker 2>lords of God who brought you out of Egypt. You

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<v Speaker 2>shall have no other guys besides me. Is that a commandment?

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<v Speaker 2>And then the second one is loll yellaha. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it's usually has lo yellaha, don't have any other God?

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<v Speaker 2>So what about and then the third one would be

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<v Speaker 2>I think the third one is a lusi sage shov,

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<v Speaker 2>don't take the name of God in vain. So what

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<v Speaker 2>about the graven image that's not including the ten commandments?

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<v Speaker 2>And uh? And what does that mean? Ten commandments sir? Ten? Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>What about uh? If I can show you fifteen here,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's the first thing to bear in mind. Second,

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<v Speaker 2>I will show you something. If you look here in

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<v Speaker 2>have the same or the pays. That's how the Master

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<v Speaker 2>Reads divided it. So let's see here the first one.

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<v Speaker 2>They included all of this, and don't make a graven image,

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<v Speaker 2>don't have other gods, don't boud out to them. That's one.

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<v Speaker 2>Two is uh, don't take the name of the Lord

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<v Speaker 2>in vain. Three is zahar schabas, four is kave de saviga.

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<v Speaker 2>Five is don't murder, six, don't commit adultery, seven, don't steal,

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<v Speaker 2>eight h false witness, nine, don't cove at your neighbor's house,

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<v Speaker 2>and ten don't covet your neighbor's wife. So the Master

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<v Speaker 2>Eats actually had it different, not only than the way

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<v Speaker 2>we have it in all our shols, they had a

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<v Speaker 2>different than Jewish generally we assume Jewish tradition. Again, what

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<v Speaker 2>does that mean anyway? Uh, if they're all separate commandments,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you what's the divisions? But let's see that assigned.

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<v Speaker 2>Notice incidentally, I said now shal not murder. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>this translation has. I think it's a JPS. All all

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<v Speaker 2>the new translations today have thou shalt not murder, even

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<v Speaker 2>though the King James has thou shalt not killed. But uh,

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<v Speaker 2>the reason they all have today shaw murder is because

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<v Speaker 2>it's not du sha kill kill. First of all, kill

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<v Speaker 2>refers to animals. You kill animals. And second of all,

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<v Speaker 2>there's plenty of places in the Terror that describes the

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<v Speaker 2>death penalty and war and that's killing. But murder, that's

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<v Speaker 2>the issue. Murder is unwellful killing. So that's the proper translation.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in terms of the ten commandments here, I'm hoding

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<v Speaker 2>to say for Arino here and if you looking to say,

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<v Speaker 2>for a femos in this party, you can count like

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<v Speaker 2>he counts like fifteen minutes fold here. Mits for number

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<v Speaker 2>one is to believe in God mitster. Number two is

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<v Speaker 2>to not make any idols. Mits. The number three is

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<v Speaker 2>to not to bow down to idolatry. Midster number four

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<v Speaker 2>is not to worship idols in the way they're supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be worshiped. The second more than one way. So

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<v Speaker 2>we already see there's an issue. There's a problem with this,

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<v Speaker 2>But what I'm gonna focus on is not that that's

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<v Speaker 2>of interest in of itself. Incidentally, as I recall the

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<v Speaker 2>Babylonian tradition, they divide the puking differently. They divide the psuking.

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<v Speaker 2>Every commandment or every word is a pussuk. So when

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<v Speaker 2>you get to the short ones etctera, each one of

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<v Speaker 2>them is a pussock. And uh, and the the first

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<v Speaker 2>what demestrates here include as one commandment that's one super

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<v Speaker 2>long pussock. But that's not the way we have Anni

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<v Speaker 2>Tiberian tradition. Okay, But what the first commandment that the

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<v Speaker 2>has is, I'm the words your God? What kind of what?

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of commandment is that? And where did he

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<v Speaker 2>get that from? He got it from the rombo. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look in the Rambaum, the safer Amidstos, the very

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<v Speaker 2>first safer amids Us in the standard translation has it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's this. The first commandment is the c. V Amin

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<v Speaker 2>problem is is there's a logical problem here though, and

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<v Speaker 2>this is pointed out by Hastai Kristnos, who I only

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<v Speaker 2>had this translation. How can you have a commandment to

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<v Speaker 2>believe in God? Who's the commander? You can't have a

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<v Speaker 2>commandment unless you already have a commander. So you're gonna say,

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<v Speaker 2>there's a commandment to believe in God. But if I

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<v Speaker 2>don't believe in God, then who's commanding? So there's a

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<v Speaker 2>logical discrepancy here, a logical problem that you need to

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<v Speaker 2>have something basic, the belief in God, that stands above it,

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<v Speaker 2>before you can have any commandments. However, it does appear

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<v Speaker 2>that this is a mistake in translation, Oh they believe

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<v Speaker 2>in believe? Why do I say this? Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>even before getting into the translation itself, if you look

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<v Speaker 2>for instance by the reclining Heller in the addition to say,

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<v Speaker 2>for amidst post, I'm holding. If you look in the

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<v Speaker 2>miss when the robum speaks about the commandments, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>what does he say? Both in the when he lists

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<v Speaker 2>the commandments. And when he has an amission too, he says,

409
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<v Speaker 2>the Mitsa is Laida to know. So in the Sam

410
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<v Speaker 2>says believe in the mission tourer, he says, to know.

411
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<v Speaker 2>So what's the difference. So what's what's going on here? Well,

412
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<v Speaker 2>the the say for the most the say for a

413
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<v Speaker 2>myz post is written in Arabic, and the word he

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<v Speaker 2>uses is an Arabic word. And here's the word. You

415
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<v Speaker 2>can see it here. It's a cond So what is

416
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<v Speaker 2>the word? It's a cod mean. That's what we're going

417
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<v Speaker 2>to be dealing with here. One. What it doesn't mean

418
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<v Speaker 2>is just belief, just stom belief. It's there's a there's

419
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<v Speaker 2>a a piece in Reshach alvi Ezri in which he

420
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<v Speaker 2>quotes your Heimslivach as your high I am saying that

421
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<v Speaker 2>the difference in knowledge and belief is knowledge is what

422
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<v Speaker 2>you know or can prove, and belief is anything that

423
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<v Speaker 2>you can't prove or can't have real knowledge of. That's belief.

424
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<v Speaker 2>So you can't really believe in God you can't prove

425
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<v Speaker 2>or no, really, you just have to accept God's existence.

426
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<v Speaker 2>That's actually it's a very nice shots, but it's the

427
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<v Speaker 2>exact opposite. Of what the Rambamb really holds. So as

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<v Speaker 2>background for what we just said, now let me introduce

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<v Speaker 2>the next the first letter here, the letter we're going

430
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<v Speaker 2>to deal with here. And incidentally, how do we know

431
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<v Speaker 2>that has to be counted? Maybe the Rambam why would

432
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<v Speaker 2>he count it at all? Just leave it off. Well,

433
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<v Speaker 2>there's a famous kimora in macOS that says the Gamatri

434
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<v Speaker 2>of the word Torah is six eleven. And then there's

435
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<v Speaker 2>two other misfolk the first one there and well, yeah,

436
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<v Speaker 2>and don't any other gods. So we see that Gomara

437
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<v Speaker 2>already includes the question is what type of myts it is?

438
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<v Speaker 2>So number one hundred is written the question. The answer

439
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<v Speaker 2>comes from this great Rabbi Rijose Ravo. We had three

440
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<v Speaker 2>classes on tour in motion. You can listen to on him.

441
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<v Speaker 2>Unbelievably important, not just scholar, academic sky or posts sake.

442
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<v Speaker 2>I'm based in Agodo, enormously prolific translator of the Rambam's

443
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<v Speaker 2>works from Arabic, with Sadiego and the Kuzari, many other works.

444
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, there was Duetrov Kafe that there was a

445
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<v Speaker 2>revolution in the study of the Rambam. People really didn't

446
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<v Speaker 2>study his comment darying the mission because the translations are

447
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<v Speaker 2>not very good. When he published his edition here's his edition,

448
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<v Speaker 2>then it became standard. Every base Matris has of Kafa's translation.

449
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<v Speaker 2>So really he really began a whole approach to how

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<v Speaker 2>to look at the Rumbo. The problem was in his

451
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<v Speaker 2>and I wrote to him. I wrote to him twice

452
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<v Speaker 2>and I only got a reply once. And when I've

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<v Speaker 2>told people in his circle, they're not surprising. The other

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<v Speaker 2>time I wrote to him was about Kaboa, because he

455
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<v Speaker 2>comes from that anti Kabalistic school, the Darta Eve. We've

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<v Speaker 2>spoken about that. He didn't reply to me. Apparently he

457
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<v Speaker 2>would only speak to people about this who were close students.

458
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<v Speaker 2>But one of his close students, incidentally, he was Professor

459
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<v Speaker 2>Spielanger Langerman of Bari Laud, who's an expert in Arabic,

460
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<v Speaker 2>comes from Boston, but he's an expert. He was in

461
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<v Speaker 2>a student of his go to a shierim every week

462
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<v Speaker 2>for many, many many years. I think he even completed

463
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<v Speaker 2>with them Marvukim three times because he gave shier Mornev

464
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<v Speaker 2>and the rumbam and mission tour and other things. Uh

465
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<v Speaker 2>hey man, his granddaughter made a movie about his life,

466
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<v Speaker 2>and his wife is and him. Here's a picture of

467
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<v Speaker 2>his wife you can see down here. They're the only

468
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<v Speaker 2>couple that each received the prostceral. And that's by the way,

469
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<v Speaker 2>rats Russi, who's the he's a successor of the the

470
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<v Speaker 2>this this group the dardaim of of Yemen, although he's

471
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<v Speaker 2>not such a Dardai. But uh, my Martani, well the

472
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<v Speaker 2>my my daughter's mother in law comes from she's he's

473
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<v Speaker 2>her rabbi. She comes from Karat, and that's a rabbi Russi.

474
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<v Speaker 2>But getting back to rabbi, the problem is that although

475
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<v Speaker 2>Robert Ka makes a big deal about this point that

476
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<v Speaker 2>it does not mean believe, because you can people believe,

477
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<v Speaker 2>just believe on faith. Uh that's not what If you

478
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<v Speaker 2>look in the very first note of in the in

479
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<v Speaker 2>the say for Amidstvos of RAKAFX edition, he translates it

480
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<v Speaker 2>that this is the command that we're commanded to know God.

481
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<v Speaker 2>And it is note he says, the word is a takkad.

482
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<v Speaker 2>And I've pointed out many times that it's not correct

483
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<v Speaker 2>to translate it as belief but knowledge. And then it

484
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<v Speaker 2>excites the rambamb In in the Mission Tour and the

485
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<v Speaker 2>minion amtzvos name. He says where the rambamb explained that

486
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<v Speaker 2>what the what the meaning of belief of of it

487
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<v Speaker 2>takat is and then also of sad and sad and

488
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<v Speaker 2>we note the dayot the word day out there is

489
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<v Speaker 2>a translation of it takan because remember Kafa Helsa explains it.

490
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<v Speaker 2>Because the whole point of the rombomb is you're not

491
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<v Speaker 2>just supposed to believe in God on faith. You're not

492
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<v Speaker 2>just supposed to say, well, I believe because my father

493
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<v Speaker 2>told me, and that there's all. You're supposed to know God.

494
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<v Speaker 2>What does it mean to know God? We can't know

495
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<v Speaker 2>God in his essence, but we can know God through

496
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<v Speaker 2>his actions. We can know God. We can understand the

497
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<v Speaker 2>properties of God, that is, God doesn't have emotions, and

498
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<v Speaker 2>God has anger, and God doesn't have anger, and that

499
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<v Speaker 2>God controls the world. We can learn about science and

500
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<v Speaker 2>things like that. So we're so there's even proofs the

501
00:31:19.799 --> 00:31:21.720
<v Speaker 2>Robum speaks of. There's proofs, not just a realm. The

502
00:31:21.759 --> 00:31:26.599
<v Speaker 2>other medievals that are maybe not they're not like mathematical proofs,

503
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<v Speaker 2>but they can lead you in a direction that you

504
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<v Speaker 2>have reason to believe in the existence of a deity.

505
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<v Speaker 2>So her Catholics point is that in munak can mean uh,

506
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<v Speaker 2>just believe, you believe because you were told a lot

507
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<v Speaker 2>of people believe. I work at Catholic University. They believe

508
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<v Speaker 2>in the Trinity. Why do they believe in the Trinity?

509
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<v Speaker 2>Was the Trinity ever proven? Is there anything? No? No,

510
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<v Speaker 2>they believe. Tratullian said, believe because it's absurd, right, no

511
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<v Speaker 2>one could come up with such a strange idea, so

512
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<v Speaker 2>unless it was true, So they believe. They believe on faith.

513
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<v Speaker 2>The existential leap of faith the Rambam has is totally

514
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<v Speaker 2>opposed to this that you have to You're supposed to

515
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<v Speaker 2>study and gain knowledge. I'm not talking about ashata type

516
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<v Speaker 2>of belief in the Torah, that sort of thing. We're

517
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<v Speaker 2>talking about belief in God. The problem is, even though

518
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<v Speaker 2>Rabbi kaf expounds on this and it is eloquent on it,

519
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<v Speaker 2>I found that if you look in the introduction to

520
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<v Speaker 2>if you look in the his translation of the Rambam's

521
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<v Speaker 2>commentary on the Mishnah, if you look at the the

522
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<v Speaker 2>thirteen principles, which he doesn't call any kareem in this translation.

523
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<v Speaker 2>He translates them as you sold you sold Shaney in

524
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<v Speaker 2>a few different places, and he doesn't translate it as

525
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<v Speaker 2>they so for example, yasoda shi the seventh principle Moshrabin,

526
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<v Speaker 2>who should na mean? And this is to believe that

527
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<v Speaker 2>he's the the father, the father of Old Navie. Also

528
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<v Speaker 2>in the issoda Shmini turni shamai, who should not mean

529
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<v Speaker 2>Chakoll torezon in sin be Daniel that we have to

530
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<v Speaker 2>believe in Old the tour. And also at the end

531
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<v Speaker 2>he said he refers to Muna. The problem is, if

532
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<v Speaker 2>you look at the Arabic drama uses the word at TAKaD.

533
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<v Speaker 2>How is it thebak kaff who makes such a big

534
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<v Speaker 2>deal about translating it's God as knowledge that he himself

535
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<v Speaker 2>translated these as a muna. He writes to me, as

536
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<v Speaker 2>hummost you are correct. In other words, he was so

537
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<v Speaker 2>busy in his translation, and uh, this slipped even though

538
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<v Speaker 2>generally he got it right. And this had slipped, and

539
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<v Speaker 2>he said this, this is how it's corrected in my version.

540
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<v Speaker 2>They recently published with Kafer's notes on the side of

541
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<v Speaker 2>his copy of the his translation, and you can find

542
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<v Speaker 2>what he tells me here. You can find it printed

543
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<v Speaker 2>among his corrections what it should say is the seventh

544
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<v Speaker 2>The is the seventh principle Mosbinu who shai da, and

545
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<v Speaker 2>that's what we should know. And the issodha shamani who

546
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<v Speaker 2>sha da. And it gives another example of this point

547
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<v Speaker 2>being that this is in the over here I found

548
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<v Speaker 2>this explanation of it to God. They do point out

549
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<v Speaker 2>something that's correct that they don't like the word to know,

550
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<v Speaker 2>because you can quote know things in your own mind

551
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<v Speaker 2>which are false. In other words, it's a cod can

552
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<v Speaker 2>mean feel strongly about something that is have a strong

553
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<v Speaker 2>belief based on reasoning. That's what it TAKaD means to

554
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<v Speaker 2>have a not a nunab, but to have a strong

555
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<v Speaker 2>belief based on reasoning. But it could be mistaken reasoning.

556
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<v Speaker 2>And therefore point out that the translation even of daya

557
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<v Speaker 2>thereafar has is not such a good translation they gave it.

558
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<v Speaker 2>They give a different option that it should be. Where

559
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<v Speaker 2>does it say here leo to the day that is

560
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<v Speaker 2>to be of the viewpoint or the the you hear

561
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<v Speaker 2>translate that to be of the knowledge the opinion. But

562
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<v Speaker 2>however way you look at it, the understanding is we

563
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<v Speaker 2>should know that for the Rombum principles of faith are

564
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<v Speaker 2>not faith. They're not principles of faith. They're principles of

565
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<v Speaker 2>intellectual attainment, I guess you could say, or intellectual conclusions.

566
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<v Speaker 2>That's the best way to put it. They're not principles

567
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<v Speaker 2>of faith because faith is often as I said, blind faith,

568
00:35:46.440 --> 00:35:50.440
<v Speaker 2>existential faith, faith because whatever, that's what I was told. No, No,

569
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<v Speaker 2>their principles of intellectual conviction. You were supposed to study

570
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<v Speaker 2>these things and see the reasons why they make sense.

571
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<v Speaker 2>This is against the whole Asidic idea of a munatsmima

572
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<v Speaker 2>of simple faith, of not merchkar, not investigation. That's the

573
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<v Speaker 2>first thing to bear in mind. We've seen with Rai Kaffa,

574
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<v Speaker 2>and also the fact that once again one of the

575
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<v Speaker 2>greatest stages of our time would and you're gonna hear

576
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<v Speaker 2>about him on Thursday from Rabbi Ziviatovsky because Rabbi Ka,

577
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<v Speaker 2>who's also a show uh, he's one of the people

578
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<v Speaker 2>who preserve the tradition of the pheasant, and I believe

579
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<v Speaker 2>that Rabbi gives Hivotask will show you a picture of

580
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<v Speaker 2>them shafting the pheasant with Rabi Ka observing there and

581
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<v Speaker 2>the special letter of aikafak throat so very very important.

582
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<v Speaker 2>The next letter deals with the same issue. Incidentally, if

583
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<v Speaker 2>you're in the first printing, there was a mistake the

584
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<v Speaker 2>print a typo uh. For the heading of the first one.

585
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<v Speaker 2>They put the tough in the cook backwards. It's a katad,

586
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<v Speaker 2>but it's we fixed it for the second printing. The

587
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<v Speaker 2>second letter, on the very same topick is sent to

588
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<v Speaker 2>this man Rivitsak shehay Rot. For a long time, I

589
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<v Speaker 2>didn't know have his name if it was she Lot

590
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<v Speaker 2>or shay Loot some of from Malaya. Dumi told me

591
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<v Speaker 2>he was she Lock. I always wrote shay Lot, and

592
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<v Speaker 2>then I changed the shee Lot. But then I finally

593
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<v Speaker 2>got into a correspondence with him and he told me

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<v Speaker 2>it's she Lot. In fact, my daughter just last week

595
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<v Speaker 2>because they finally let them out to leave the building,

596
00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>personally delivered the book to him. Who is Roff shay

597
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<v Speaker 2>Lot rouffs Saylock. First of all, as I said, he's

598
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<v Speaker 2>one of the most unique and great figures. And you

599
00:37:33.760 --> 00:37:37.480
<v Speaker 2>haven't heard of him yet. You'll hear him now because

600
00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:40.199
<v Speaker 2>you've heard of many people who don't come near him.

601
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<v Speaker 2>He is one of the owning of our day, one

602
00:37:42.639 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 2>of the unique people. He's heat together with Rabbi Sabato

603
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<v Speaker 2>founded the yeshiva and Malia Domino, and they wanted a

604
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<v Speaker 2>real talmudic lamdun. So they brought in Rabbi Rabinovich and

605
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<v Speaker 2>they gave him the yeshiva to run. Now that he's

606
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<v Speaker 2>pay away, so they are roseshiva again, but they gave

607
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<v Speaker 2>him it to run. You have a parallel with Amtel

608
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<v Speaker 2>did am Tal. He started the yeshiva, but he brought

609
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<v Speaker 2>a Revuklstein and a center of Lulstein. You're greater than

610
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<v Speaker 2>I am. You run the Yeshiva and I'll just be

611
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<v Speaker 2>a rebbe and Revutnstein refused to do that, and they

612
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<v Speaker 2>remained co rebby co rushia Yeshiva. But I mean, this

613
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<v Speaker 2>is like to just to create a yeshiva and to

614
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<v Speaker 2>willingly give it to someone else. We're dealing with amazing people.

615
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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Rashi la Chelat doesn't take any money for

616
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<v Speaker 2>teaching at the yeshiva. Released he didn't for all these years.

617
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<v Speaker 2>Maybe now as a rosheshiva because he has an administrative work,

618
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:42.480
<v Speaker 2>but it was a rebby. He never took money. Instead,

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<v Speaker 2>he worked also as the librarian because he follows the

620
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<v Speaker 2>rambo I even saw an article as I was, I

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<v Speaker 2>was looking at the pictures. You see him here. Obviously

622
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<v Speaker 2>he goes on the Temple mount. But the article is

623
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<v Speaker 2>you have an article here that he won this prize

624
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<v Speaker 2>on one of his books, and it's a money prize.

625
00:39:02.599 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 2>But since he doesn't take money for tongra, he put

626
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<v Speaker 2>a sign up in the Aeshieva that the money now

627
00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:11.079
<v Speaker 2>subsidizes the book. Anyone now could take the book for free.

628
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<v Speaker 2>He's written many, many books. If he comes from a

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<v Speaker 2>German Orthodox background, I believe it's German. Here's an article

630
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<v Speaker 2>on him. Yeah, Green spands his name. I don't know

631
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<v Speaker 2>if I think it's I think his father. He told

632
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<v Speaker 2>me his father was a student of this three d Ash.

633
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<v Speaker 2>But he he's Ashkenazi, but he taught himself Arabic. Yes,

634
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<v Speaker 2>it was in the army, I mean everything we weren't

635
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<v Speaker 2>in Krov in other places. And in addition to all

636
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<v Speaker 2>of his writings, i'll show you some of the list

637
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<v Speaker 2>of some of them. One of his works will stand

638
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<v Speaker 2>a test of time, and two hundred years are going

639
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<v Speaker 2>to be see in this book. I'll stop the share

640
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<v Speaker 2>for a minute. The Yellow Book, he retranslated the letters

641
00:39:58.880 --> 00:40:02.320
<v Speaker 2>of the rumble from the Arabic and also published all

642
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<v Speaker 2>the letters around Bam the with his with his notes.

643
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<v Speaker 2>I mean this is the it's this achievement which he did,

644
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<v Speaker 2>which was published years ago nineteen eighty eight. If this

645
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<v Speaker 2>is all he did, it would be an incredible achievement.

646
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<v Speaker 2>We look at all the other things he's written as

647
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<v Speaker 2>a list here on his Wikipedia page. He wrote bibliographical

648
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<v Speaker 2>books and shown him in Akroni. He published this book

649
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<v Speaker 2>the Tara Social of Gadalia, of Gadalia Nadal Nadel, picture

650
00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:38.039
<v Speaker 2>of let me give you a picture of Rev. Gadalia Nadal.

651
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<v Speaker 2>I thought I had a picture of Gadalia Nadal, student

652
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<v Speaker 2>of uh Talman Movak of the Rabbi Chayat, started going

653
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<v Speaker 2>to a sharing and put out this work The Social

654
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<v Speaker 2>of Gadalia the top one of the top students of

655
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<v Speaker 2>the Hasani has. His approach was he totally accepted evolution.

656
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<v Speaker 2>He has all sorts of unusual ideas and you find

657
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<v Speaker 2>it here. What else did Rabbi Shelock publish? He translated

658
00:41:12.199 --> 00:41:15.000
<v Speaker 2>the He wrote a book between the kuz He wrotal

659
00:41:15.079 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Munich works bet also between the Kuzari and the Rambam

660
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<v Speaker 2>books on on Issus and Rafool and hohah. He just

661
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:27.960
<v Speaker 2>came out this book showing the connection and ideas between

662
00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Hasidic masters and Cook. And he also published them to

663
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<v Speaker 2>the Rambo retranslated from Arabic, a new edition of the Rambom.

664
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<v Speaker 2>On others, he published the missionar Towe Route he calls

665
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<v Speaker 2>it ram which uh you know the proper uh. Based

666
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<v Speaker 2>on manuscripts, he published the Kuzari et cetera, et cetera,

667
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.960
<v Speaker 2>and a new translation. What it doesn't mention here, Hey,

668
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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't mention it here.

669
00:41:53.840 --> 00:41:58.920
<v Speaker 3>Is he's responsible for this work, the Schmona Katzi, which

670
00:41:59.039 --> 00:42:02.000
<v Speaker 3>launched a revolution in the study of Roff Cook when

671
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<v Speaker 3>this came out around the year two thousand, the Eight

672
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<v Speaker 3>Notebooks of Roff Cook. For the first time, we can

673
00:42:09.000 --> 00:42:13.440
<v Speaker 3>see what Roff Cook really said without going through the gatekeepers,

674
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<v Speaker 3>namely his son and the Nuzier and Rov Carlopa in

675
00:42:16.800 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 3>his in raf Cook's own words, all everything about Roff

676
00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 3>Cook before it's censored.

677
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:28.639
<v Speaker 2>You see it in the Schmona Kutzi. And that's uh.

678
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<v Speaker 2>He's not mentioned anywhere, but he's he's responsible for Okay.

679
00:42:33.800 --> 00:42:37.000
<v Speaker 2>So I turned to Rabbi shay Lot with the same

680
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<v Speaker 2>question because a Lot he uses the word monah, he

681
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:44.960
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have a problem using it. So what about Rabbi

682
00:42:45.039 --> 00:42:49.079
<v Speaker 2>Kaslack's point of Saylot's an expert in Arabic, so he

683
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<v Speaker 2>writes to me as problems. I think it's an important

684
00:42:51.480 --> 00:42:57.039
<v Speaker 2>letter because he explains it. He says, you can write

685
00:42:57.480 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 2>as a translation either laha min to believe or to

686
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<v Speaker 2>to think, or or to hold a position asu emit.

687
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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter, he says, the why because the eger

688
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<v Speaker 2>who the main thing is According to the Rahmbam, there's

689
00:43:14.719 --> 00:43:17.719
<v Speaker 2>no difference between them. Because even according to the Rhumbam,

690
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<v Speaker 2>when the Rambamb uses the word mahamm and he brings

691
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<v Speaker 2>a proof in from one of the Rambam's letters that

692
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<v Speaker 2>also is only refers to a view that you have

693
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<v Speaker 2>because of a sound reason, something which you've shown the

694
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<v Speaker 2>truth to yourself. Mahaman, he says, from the show rush

695
00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.079
<v Speaker 2>of the word amain, which comes from the root of emmet.

696
00:43:46.039 --> 00:43:47.400
<v Speaker 2>And he says, that's where you get the word like

697
00:43:47.480 --> 00:43:50.639
<v Speaker 2>ahmita or amiteka. It's the why does it have a

698
00:43:50.719 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 2>decade because the nun dropped off, And how do you

699
00:43:54.480 --> 00:43:57.360
<v Speaker 2>prove it to yourself? How do you establish this truth

700
00:43:57.400 --> 00:44:01.159
<v Speaker 2>in your mind? Wherebi Shailat says, either by by logical

701
00:44:01.320 --> 00:44:05.280
<v Speaker 2>proof or with your hush or with you the tradition

702
00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:10.599
<v Speaker 2>from the prophets or the wise men. That's what the

703
00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.400
<v Speaker 2>Rumum says in the letter on astrology. All of them

704
00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.880
<v Speaker 2>are called and Muna, and you can call them day up.

705
00:44:16.360 --> 00:44:19.039
<v Speaker 2>But his point is that and ever he says, it's

706
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<v Speaker 2>not surprised that you've been t bone. He translates it

707
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<v Speaker 2>as ah mean and then and he cites he refers

708
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<v Speaker 2>me to something he wrote in his edition of the

709
00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Rumums Letters where he says he doesn't know why y

710
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<v Speaker 2>Kafe is so on constantly making this point that it

711
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<v Speaker 2>doesn't mean to believe, because even for the Rumbum, belief

712
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<v Speaker 2>is not what we think of his belief. It's not

713
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<v Speaker 2>simply like I told Jrgheim said anything anything that you

714
00:44:46.440 --> 00:44:49.519
<v Speaker 2>just have to believe on faith. That's believe. Everything else

715
00:44:49.599 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 2>is knowledge. No, even for the Rumbum, the word and

716
00:44:52.679 --> 00:44:56.400
<v Speaker 2>Munah is only something which you can have good reasons

717
00:44:56.440 --> 00:44:58.800
<v Speaker 2>to believe. It's not a mathematical proof, but good reasons.

718
00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.079
<v Speaker 2>And anything that you say you believe, but you only

719
00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:05.119
<v Speaker 2>believe on blind faith. That's not belief. The Mum in

720
00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:09.119
<v Speaker 2>the Morn of Vukan explains what it means. It's a god,

721
00:45:09.239 --> 00:45:13.599
<v Speaker 2>it's not it's it's just a fantasy, it's something, it's

722
00:45:13.679 --> 00:45:17.039
<v Speaker 2>just words. Because if you don't have a reason to

723
00:45:17.199 --> 00:45:21.599
<v Speaker 2>explain it, then now we granted for the masses, they're

724
00:45:21.599 --> 00:45:25.559
<v Speaker 2>at a very low level. The roum Bums speaks about

725
00:45:26.639 --> 00:45:28.159
<v Speaker 2>in the Mare of Ouchim. I think it's the book

726
00:45:28.239 --> 00:45:32.159
<v Speaker 2>one chapter thirty six, yeah, thirty six or thirty five,

727
00:45:32.760 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>that the masses they can't prove or understand how we

728
00:45:36.519 --> 00:45:38.800
<v Speaker 2>know that God doesn't have a physical form, so they

729
00:45:38.880 --> 00:45:41.599
<v Speaker 2>have to take it on faith. But the masses don't

730
00:45:41.639 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 2>have true belief anyway. They never have true belief. They're

731
00:45:44.199 --> 00:45:48.559
<v Speaker 2>supposed to move beyond that, but there's no simple belief

732
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:51.440
<v Speaker 2>on faith if you for the people the Rumbum's referring

733
00:45:51.480 --> 00:45:54.440
<v Speaker 2>to at the at the level, everything needs to be

734
00:45:56.039 --> 00:46:00.280
<v Speaker 2>belief through knowledge. So for all these years I was

735
00:46:00.280 --> 00:46:03.079
<v Speaker 2>always pointing out that you know, it's the word daya,

736
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:07.480
<v Speaker 2>it's not a munah. But now based upon they'll say

737
00:46:07.519 --> 00:46:10.199
<v Speaker 2>it is munah. You could translate the first midst of

738
00:46:10.199 --> 00:46:13.400
<v Speaker 2>a munah. But it's not just a blind faith of

739
00:46:13.519 --> 00:46:18.079
<v Speaker 2>that sort. And therefore the criscos is critique how the

740
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:23.840
<v Speaker 2>rumbumb could count a muna belief in God as a commandment,

741
00:46:24.039 --> 00:46:26.800
<v Speaker 2>because who's the commander or no, because it's not simple

742
00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:30.199
<v Speaker 2>belief in God. It's establishing in your mind that there

743
00:46:30.360 --> 00:46:35.239
<v Speaker 2>is a there's reasons to believe in a deity. You

744
00:46:35.320 --> 00:46:37.480
<v Speaker 2>can believe. You can just have faith there's a deity,

745
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:39.760
<v Speaker 2>but yours act to go more than that. All of

746
00:46:39.880 --> 00:46:44.039
<v Speaker 2>us are obligated. I mean, Lookdatara the Ramam explains what

747
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.079
<v Speaker 2>everyone has to do to learn about to give us

748
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:50.320
<v Speaker 2>knowledge of the deity as much as we can, and

749
00:46:50.440 --> 00:46:52.480
<v Speaker 2>in the mart of Ukimi he explains this to what

750
00:46:52.559 --> 00:46:55.639
<v Speaker 2>he calls the negative theology, that we can't really say

751
00:46:55.639 --> 00:46:58.199
<v Speaker 2>anything positive about God, but we can say negative things.

752
00:46:58.320 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 2>So I guess it's a dispute between rafshe Lat and

753
00:47:03.880 --> 00:47:06.000
<v Speaker 2>on the best way to translate it. But it's not

754
00:47:06.079 --> 00:47:10.880
<v Speaker 2>the only dispute. They've had other disputes as well. Okay,

755
00:47:10.880 --> 00:47:13.760
<v Speaker 2>we have time for one more, and that's Simon Cookba's

756
00:47:14.760 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>page two twenty four, And here we move to someone

757
00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:20.119
<v Speaker 2>that we're going to see a lot about in the

758
00:47:20.159 --> 00:47:23.239
<v Speaker 2>coming weeks, because there's like twenty five letters from him,

759
00:47:23.800 --> 00:47:27.039
<v Speaker 2>and this is the man that I believe is unique

760
00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>among Torrest scholars. Today Althought is also unique, and this

761
00:47:35.199 --> 00:47:38.239
<v Speaker 2>is uh revmey or Mazus. I'm not going to get

762
00:47:38.239 --> 00:47:42.519
<v Speaker 2>into the politics the Ahad party Laishi. We will get

763
00:47:42.559 --> 00:47:45.239
<v Speaker 2>into that later because I have a letter here he

764
00:47:45.320 --> 00:47:49.639
<v Speaker 2>wrote me which deals with his political failure, which is

765
00:47:49.679 --> 00:47:52.559
<v Speaker 2>good in the end, because when a rabbi is getting politics,

766
00:47:52.960 --> 00:47:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it creates all sorts of problems and they don't have

767
00:47:54.920 --> 00:48:00.679
<v Speaker 2>time to do their writings. Rabbi Mazous born in Tunis,

768
00:48:03.480 --> 00:48:07.840
<v Speaker 2>came to Israel when his father was killed in nineteen

769
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:11.119
<v Speaker 2>seventy one by a Palestinian Paris. His father was one

770
00:48:11.159 --> 00:48:16.119
<v Speaker 2>of the leading rabbis in Tunis, started a small yeshiva

771
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:20.440
<v Speaker 2>to carry on the Tunisian way of learning, special way

772
00:48:20.480 --> 00:48:23.679
<v Speaker 2>of earning gamara and rashi, but also learning shi, raised Fahad,

773
00:48:24.119 --> 00:48:30.039
<v Speaker 2>the song poetry and Dick Took and the medieval commentators

774
00:48:30.079 --> 00:48:35.000
<v Speaker 2>as a whole tradition. Here. He didn't publish much other

775
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:37.800
<v Speaker 2>than journal articles till about ten years ago, and starting

776
00:48:37.840 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 2>ten years ago everything exploded and every year he's published

777
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>a number of a number of works. His commentary to

778
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:49.199
<v Speaker 2>big two volume commentary on Hummish, anyone was interested in

779
00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Trump and Dick took and commentaries on Gamara, articles, his

780
00:48:54.559 --> 00:49:00.800
<v Speaker 2>weekly Torah and what do I call it? These newsletters

781
00:49:00.840 --> 00:49:02.800
<v Speaker 2>that come out, it's very different. If you look at him,

782
00:49:02.880 --> 00:49:07.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like Josef's newsletter. It's just on only ha with Ramazusa,

783
00:49:07.239 --> 00:49:11.800
<v Speaker 2>it's everything. There's no other I know there's hundreds of

784
00:49:11.840 --> 00:49:14.039
<v Speaker 2>these newsletters, but if you want to read one, that's

785
00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:19.000
<v Speaker 2>that's a really interesting one. So quite a unique. Around

786
00:49:19.119 --> 00:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>thirty years ago I started corresponding with them. I mentioned

787
00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 2>a little bit in the introduction. I'm the one who

788
00:49:24.039 --> 00:49:27.239
<v Speaker 2>introduced him. I'm proud of this to the Western world

789
00:49:27.360 --> 00:49:29.960
<v Speaker 2>because I'm the first person to write about him and

790
00:49:30.119 --> 00:49:36.239
<v Speaker 2>his ideas in English. And and so I was attracted

791
00:49:36.360 --> 00:49:41.079
<v Speaker 2>by this idea that someone with knowledge in collaturkula basically

792
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 2>in all areas. So we're going to see some examples

793
00:49:44.679 --> 00:49:49.079
<v Speaker 2>of this, and an expert in I guess what you

794
00:49:49.079 --> 00:49:52.559
<v Speaker 2>would say, what people do? What people I can do.

795
00:49:52.760 --> 00:49:55.079
<v Speaker 2>When it's not day and night, when he's not learning

796
00:49:55.119 --> 00:49:57.599
<v Speaker 2>shots and post game, he focuses on some of these

797
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:00.800
<v Speaker 2>other areas that I believe for and well, we'll get more,

798
00:50:00.880 --> 00:50:02.760
<v Speaker 2>we'll learn more and more about him. But let me

799
00:50:02.920 --> 00:50:07.239
<v Speaker 2>just tell you what the next questions about. And as

800
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<v Speaker 2>we go through, when we see many questions and answers

801
00:50:10.239 --> 00:50:14.519
<v Speaker 2>of his, well you'll get a sense of the things

802
00:50:14.559 --> 00:50:17.599
<v Speaker 2>that interest me that he can answer that very few

803
00:50:17.639 --> 00:50:20.960
<v Speaker 2>people today really understand a lot of these issues or

804
00:50:22.119 --> 00:50:26.320
<v Speaker 2>among the great tourist stages. And what I don't have

805
00:50:26.480 --> 00:50:29.000
<v Speaker 2>in here are the main things because I don't feel

806
00:50:29.039 --> 00:50:31.400
<v Speaker 2>I needed to ask him questions on how which is

807
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<v Speaker 2>his main thing and tell much study. I was more

808
00:50:34.039 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 2>interested in the more unusual things. So what's the question?

809
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<v Speaker 2>And it's relevant to what we spoke about the beginning

810
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:42.880
<v Speaker 2>of the class. There's a to Sesta. It's also on

811
00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the year of Shawmy which says this follows that. It

812
00:50:47.440 --> 00:50:51.400
<v Speaker 2>says that it's talking about conditions you can make when

813
00:50:51.440 --> 00:50:54.199
<v Speaker 2>you get married. Like if I marry a woman and

814
00:50:54.239 --> 00:50:56.320
<v Speaker 2>she agrees I'm not going to support her, that's fine,

815
00:50:56.320 --> 00:50:59.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't have to. The katuba says yes, but if

816
00:50:59.400 --> 00:51:02.360
<v Speaker 2>we agree not, I can learn in colo. For instance,

817
00:51:02.440 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 2>there have been based in cases in Israel where the

818
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 2>woman has sued this that the husband has to come

819
00:51:08.440 --> 00:51:10.679
<v Speaker 2>and the woman has gone to bastin that they demand

820
00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:15.679
<v Speaker 2>her husband leave Colol because the Katuba says she has

821
00:51:15.760 --> 00:51:18.360
<v Speaker 2>to he has to support her, and uh, you know,

822
00:51:18.760 --> 00:51:21.519
<v Speaker 2>things are very difficult when he's not. And he comes

823
00:51:21.599 --> 00:51:25.000
<v Speaker 2>down to what about the agreement you made beforehand? But

824
00:51:25.400 --> 00:51:28.079
<v Speaker 2>it goes the other way also that the woman can

825
00:51:28.159 --> 00:51:30.400
<v Speaker 2>make agreements. So what the Josepha says in the super's

826
00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>parent Dhalod is that you can get married on the condition.

827
00:51:34.960 --> 00:51:41.239
<v Speaker 2>Was the condition that uh, that she will support him. Okay,

828
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:44.199
<v Speaker 2>you can do that that they had in any Haredi

829
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:47.000
<v Speaker 2>circles for a number of years. The wife will support

830
00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:52.280
<v Speaker 2>the husband. And then it says, tona and teach him Tona.

831
00:51:52.880 --> 00:51:56.280
<v Speaker 2>So you get married and and she is the wife

832
00:51:56.320 --> 00:51:59.480
<v Speaker 2>in the condition she's going to teach you tower. If

833
00:51:59.519 --> 00:52:05.599
<v Speaker 2>you look at all the commentaries on the Tufta or Ashami,

834
00:52:05.679 --> 00:52:07.440
<v Speaker 2>they all say the same thing. What does it mean

835
00:52:07.519 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to teach Tara? It means that she's going to enable

836
00:52:12.000 --> 00:52:15.320
<v Speaker 2>him to learn Towrah by providing him what he needs.

837
00:52:16.119 --> 00:52:20.039
<v Speaker 2>I have not found any that explained it at all. Differently,

838
00:52:20.400 --> 00:52:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't have with me the Irshawmi art school. I'm

839
00:52:22.880 --> 00:52:24.559
<v Speaker 2>sure the art schirl explains that way, because if you

840
00:52:24.599 --> 00:52:26.559
<v Speaker 2>look in the I think it's the carbon aid that

841
00:52:26.639 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 2>he explains it that way, all the commentaries that I found.

842
00:52:30.400 --> 00:52:33.039
<v Speaker 2>And yet if you look at it, what does it

843
00:52:33.159 --> 00:52:38.760
<v Speaker 2>mean mohade umaha menatoto, she will teach him, Tonrah. So

844
00:52:38.880 --> 00:52:43.199
<v Speaker 2>my question is is it possible to explain this cornt

845
00:52:43.239 --> 00:52:46.360
<v Speaker 2>of shot that she is going to That's what it

846
00:52:46.440 --> 00:52:48.840
<v Speaker 2>really that this is the authentic meaning that a man

847
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:50.920
<v Speaker 2>that the Tsepta is referring to, a woman who's a

848
00:52:50.960 --> 00:52:53.960
<v Speaker 2>tolera scholar or knows tower and the man that she

849
00:52:54.119 --> 00:52:57.159
<v Speaker 2>has to teach him. Tonrah, I say that is it

850
00:52:57.239 --> 00:53:00.159
<v Speaker 2>possible this is a shot. We know that there are

851
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:04.719
<v Speaker 2>women who were learning. That's that's the first question I asked,

852
00:53:05.159 --> 00:53:08.159
<v Speaker 2>and he replies, absolutely, you can explain it that we're

853
00:53:08.159 --> 00:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>dealing with the man who doesn't know anything, and she

854
00:53:10.639 --> 00:53:13.400
<v Speaker 2>learns from his wife and he brings a proof Lamar

855
00:53:13.519 --> 00:53:16.400
<v Speaker 2>and Sukka says, and also it's in Brahos it says

856
00:53:16.559 --> 00:53:20.280
<v Speaker 2>a curse upon a man whose wife or children need

857
00:53:20.400 --> 00:53:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to do ber krassomouslin for him, because it's obviously it

858
00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.840
<v Speaker 2>means that he's in banship because if he knows so

859
00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:31.360
<v Speaker 2>little that is neat. He can't even do benching. He

860
00:53:31.480 --> 00:53:33.599
<v Speaker 2>needs his wife. But what this shows you is that

861
00:53:33.719 --> 00:53:37.519
<v Speaker 2>you had, and even intel muted days, the phenomenon of

862
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:40.480
<v Speaker 2>a woman who would know more torah than her husband.

863
00:53:40.559 --> 00:53:43.320
<v Speaker 2>And today today it's not so uncommon. If you take

864
00:53:43.559 --> 00:53:46.079
<v Speaker 2>I just showed you the pictures any of those, I

865
00:53:46.199 --> 00:53:48.679
<v Speaker 2>guarantee you that rob anique or that rab meat and

866
00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:52.480
<v Speaker 2>that roast shot yeshiva at Yeshiva Drisha. If her husband

867
00:53:52.639 --> 00:53:55.079
<v Speaker 2>has a regular job, is not a full time tower scholar,

868
00:53:55.639 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 2>the wife knows more tora than the husband. It's we're

869
00:53:58.519 --> 00:54:02.000
<v Speaker 2>the first generation where you've they have that in decent numbers,

870
00:54:02.679 --> 00:54:04.599
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna have women who spend years learning in

871
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:06.559
<v Speaker 2>Israel to get married to a guy didn't go to Yu.

872
00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Maybe he only went one year. He doesn't know so much.

873
00:54:11.000 --> 00:54:13.199
<v Speaker 2>I believe that this is I have no reason to

874
00:54:13.280 --> 00:54:15.360
<v Speaker 2>assume this is not the shock. Why do we assume

875
00:54:15.880 --> 00:54:18.280
<v Speaker 2>that this isn't the shocked? It says them. If it

876
00:54:18.360 --> 00:54:21.079
<v Speaker 2>wanted to say that she, you know, helps himilar in Toner,

877
00:54:21.159 --> 00:54:23.800
<v Speaker 2>it could use a different language. It appears to be

878
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:27.400
<v Speaker 2>simple that thea says she teaches them tarra and I

879
00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:31.039
<v Speaker 2>think it's only because the commentators and the commentar is

880
00:54:31.039 --> 00:54:34.360
<v Speaker 2>in POSEFTA were like the last few hundred years and

881
00:54:34.360 --> 00:54:37.000
<v Speaker 2>you're Shawn me, this wasn't studied so much. They're all

882
00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.760
<v Speaker 2>in an environment I think where the idea that a

883
00:54:39.800 --> 00:54:42.320
<v Speaker 2>woman would teach a mantora, the women were all completely

884
00:54:42.360 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 2>illiterate to them. It was unheard of impossible that you'd

885
00:54:45.199 --> 00:54:47.760
<v Speaker 2>have a situation where the woman would teach the mantora.

886
00:54:47.880 --> 00:54:50.000
<v Speaker 2>You could have this this, but I think that's the shot.

887
00:54:50.360 --> 00:54:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I believe the second question. I have two questions here. Hey,

888
00:54:54.559 --> 00:54:58.119
<v Speaker 2>this is not that important. There was a a man

889
00:54:58.199 --> 00:55:00.760
<v Speaker 2>wanted to argue that Ibbin Ezra, uh, it should be

890
00:55:00.840 --> 00:55:04.920
<v Speaker 2>pronounced Evan Ezra, Ibn Ezra, because even though in Arabic

891
00:55:05.000 --> 00:55:10.119
<v Speaker 2>it's Ibin Kospi, Joseph Ibin Kospi, who does not know Arabic,

892
00:55:10.480 --> 00:55:13.760
<v Speaker 2>he was from Provence, he thinks it should be his

893
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:17.360
<v Speaker 2>name is Evan Joseph, Evan Kuspy and he he has

894
00:55:17.400 --> 00:55:20.320
<v Speaker 2>a whole thing on this. But by Kaf says that

895
00:55:20.559 --> 00:55:24.239
<v Speaker 2>now it's it's if you look in Ibn Ezra. He

896
00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:26.719
<v Speaker 2>has a poem where he mentions his name, and if

897
00:55:26.760 --> 00:55:30.320
<v Speaker 2>you know poetry, in Hebrew poetry. Maybe in a future

898
00:55:30.320 --> 00:55:34.440
<v Speaker 2>class we'll talk about the ted chanua how poetry works. Uh,

899
00:55:34.840 --> 00:55:41.800
<v Speaker 2>it only works with ibn By Mazuzas we'll see, is

900
00:55:41.880 --> 00:55:45.119
<v Speaker 2>the only one of the gadolin today who's really an

901
00:55:45.199 --> 00:55:50.480
<v Speaker 2>expert in grammar and and all these sorts of interesting things.

902
00:55:50.639 --> 00:55:53.480
<v Speaker 2>And but we're gonna get into all sorts of things

903
00:55:54.000 --> 00:55:58.280
<v Speaker 2>related to the sitter, et cetera. If I see, it's

904
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>already nine twenty seven, so we should stop here. Okay,

905
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:06.159
<v Speaker 2>let me take the questions. Uh, I'm gonna get to

906
00:56:06.239 --> 00:56:12.400
<v Speaker 2>my chat here. Malaya doshiv instantly. I think they still

907
00:56:12.480 --> 00:56:14.519
<v Speaker 2>do it. I know it. I know kids who went

908
00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.960
<v Speaker 2>there years ago, like seven eight years ago. They used

909
00:56:17.960 --> 00:56:21.079
<v Speaker 2>to take American students. Uh in Canadian they had a program.

910
00:56:21.440 --> 00:56:22.920
<v Speaker 2>I think they still do. I can say that on

911
00:56:23.079 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 2>my son's age, it wasn't even on the radar Malaya

912
00:56:27.280 --> 00:56:29.239
<v Speaker 2>dum I don't know why you know these a shivas

913
00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:34.000
<v Speaker 2>go in and out of but I think, together with Horadzione,

914
00:56:34.039 --> 00:56:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you really have to put Malaya dumim on the top

915
00:56:36.039 --> 00:56:40.280
<v Speaker 2>of and uh to have Rabba Sabato and Robby she Lot,

916
00:56:40.360 --> 00:56:43.320
<v Speaker 2>as well as a number of other people there. It's

917
00:56:43.400 --> 00:56:46.320
<v Speaker 2>really unique. Uh. Okay Bar says, does Ryan body have

918
00:56:46.360 --> 00:56:51.360
<v Speaker 2>a rachamans and his benching? No, no at all is

919
00:56:51.400 --> 00:56:53.719
<v Speaker 2>the new soaker bodies berk at the Muslim spelled out

920
00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:56.199
<v Speaker 2>and is chiva on the first five aureo stock, Yes,

921
00:56:56.400 --> 00:57:00.519
<v Speaker 2>it is, as well as the uh the halachic justification

922
00:57:00.639 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 2>for it. So Barr says, if a rachamans are eliminated,

923
00:57:03.360 --> 00:57:09.239
<v Speaker 2>then benching is greatly shortened, shortened even without doing rubbody offer, well, yeah,

924
00:57:09.440 --> 00:57:11.280
<v Speaker 2>but you could have done that as well, but he

925
00:57:11.480 --> 00:57:13.559
<v Speaker 2>he gave it a bridge benching so people could say,

926
00:57:13.639 --> 00:57:16.800
<v Speaker 2>with kavana shortened, you could do that, you could do

927
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:23.599
<v Speaker 2>the radio paragraphs and just do up to rachaman. But no,

928
00:57:23.840 --> 00:57:25.280
<v Speaker 2>that's that's what he did. If you want to ask

929
00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:28.320
<v Speaker 2>him why, you can call him up and ask him why.

930
00:57:28.480 --> 00:57:34.119
<v Speaker 2>But he explains it Mahart or Robanni. Okay so uh

931
00:57:35.599 --> 00:57:38.159
<v Speaker 2>as I said, it's a it properly. If it's rov,

932
00:57:38.280 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 2>it's raba, it's par it's para. So son you said

933
00:57:41.000 --> 00:57:44.760
<v Speaker 2>about Maharit, but it's not Mahrie. They said, Maharat. That's

934
00:57:44.840 --> 00:57:49.679
<v Speaker 2>what Maharret is. Uh. He's the great Sagel Joseph trun

935
00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:54.599
<v Speaker 2>is the maharet. Now rabbanit okay, So why rabbanit? Where

936
00:57:54.639 --> 00:57:58.920
<v Speaker 2>does rabanit come from? Because what's in aporoal of Rabona

937
00:57:59.079 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 2>is already used. It's been used for many hundreds of years.

938
00:58:02.199 --> 00:58:05.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure why they why they didn't do rabbet

939
00:58:06.199 --> 00:58:08.440
<v Speaker 2>or where the nun comes in. I'm not sure we

940
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:11.760
<v Speaker 2>know rabanan, but why how? In fact, the I mentioned

941
00:58:11.760 --> 00:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>this a number of times that he does in his

942
00:58:13.960 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 2>sham Hoagdowi, which lists all the great rabbis, he has

943
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.480
<v Speaker 2>a section there raban and it doesn't mean rebitson Rabbat

944
00:58:21.559 --> 00:58:23.840
<v Speaker 2>for him means women rabbis. It means women who are

945
00:58:23.880 --> 00:58:32.119
<v Speaker 2>great powers scholars. So I don't know why Burt to

946
00:58:32.159 --> 00:58:34.880
<v Speaker 2>say that they gave they Basically they're telling off the

947
00:58:34.960 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 2>mayor and the governor. Doesn't seem correct since the writing

948
00:58:36.920 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 2>was in Yiddish not English. But there are loads and

949
00:58:40.360 --> 00:58:44.320
<v Speaker 2>loads of Jews today in New York who read Yiddish.

950
00:58:44.519 --> 00:58:48.559
<v Speaker 2>There's lots of Sotmar people who left Sotmar, and now

951
00:58:48.679 --> 00:58:52.320
<v Speaker 2>in modern Orthodox or Secular, when you put it in Yiddish,

952
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:55.199
<v Speaker 2>you have to assume that they're going to read it.

953
00:58:55.679 --> 00:58:59.079
<v Speaker 2>You did to publish something in their newspaper in Yiddish

954
00:58:59.679 --> 00:59:02.400
<v Speaker 2>with a description including pictures, and to assume it's not

955
00:59:02.480 --> 00:59:06.519
<v Speaker 2>going to get out there. There's all these off the

956
00:59:06.599 --> 00:59:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Derek people who know Yiddish. Their newspaper is in Yiddish.

957
00:59:11.480 --> 00:59:13.480
<v Speaker 2>That's why they wrote it in Yiddish. If the newspaper

958
00:59:13.559 --> 00:59:15.400
<v Speaker 2>was in English, they would have written it in English too.

959
00:59:16.079 --> 00:59:19.320
<v Speaker 2>It's it's it's obvious that they didn't care, and it's

960
00:59:19.320 --> 00:59:21.159
<v Speaker 2>a problem now because they're supposed to have a big

961
00:59:21.239 --> 00:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>wedding tonight in curiosity all all, and they shut it

962
00:59:24.039 --> 00:59:29.079
<v Speaker 2>down now because of that. That one says, I'm more

963
00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:33.280
<v Speaker 2>the brothels Yes, that's a fine reason for insisting that

964
00:59:33.360 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 2>the Coen loved the people and vice versa. Indeed, that's

965
00:59:36.119 --> 00:59:39.800
<v Speaker 2>what halacha is based on the Zoar and the mission.

966
00:59:39.840 --> 00:59:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Burgher records this that if the ko Ain doesn't like

967
00:59:42.000 --> 00:59:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the people and the people don't like the Koa, he

968
00:59:44.039 --> 00:59:46.760
<v Speaker 2>cannot do it, which raises the question, well, wait a second,

969
00:59:46.840 --> 00:59:48.719
<v Speaker 2>let's say one person doesn't like him to go by

970
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:51.920
<v Speaker 2>the majority. Post came discussed this issue as well as

971
00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:54.679
<v Speaker 2>what I said reb by Mayo Dave, who discusses well

972
00:59:54.760 --> 00:59:57.079
<v Speaker 2>Let's say you don't like him because he's you have

973
00:59:57.119 --> 00:59:59.440
<v Speaker 2>a good reason not for liking him. He was mahutzev

974
00:59:59.519 --> 01:00:02.719
<v Speaker 2>to the rabbi, and he did terrible things to the community,

975
01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:04.480
<v Speaker 2>but he wants to do it when he comes to show.

976
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.280
<v Speaker 2>You're allowed. That's the sort of person you're allowed to

977
01:00:07.320 --> 01:00:09.159
<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to love all Jews, but some people you're

978
01:00:09.159 --> 01:00:12.320
<v Speaker 2>allowed to hate if they're a shine like that. In

979
01:00:12.440 --> 01:00:17.320
<v Speaker 2>that case, is that considered a problem? The shower is

980
01:00:17.400 --> 01:00:20.480
<v Speaker 2>only if you don't hate him for a bad reason,

981
01:00:21.360 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 2>for the incorrect reason. Why was he murdered? We don't

982
01:00:26.559 --> 01:00:32.000
<v Speaker 2>know why he was murdered. They found his body after

983
01:00:32.039 --> 01:00:34.159
<v Speaker 2>a few days, and they brought it back up and

984
01:00:34.280 --> 01:00:40.000
<v Speaker 2>they buried him. And we don't know money that one says,

985
01:00:40.039 --> 01:00:41.960
<v Speaker 2>splitting what we consider it to be the Tenth Commandment

986
01:00:42.039 --> 01:00:44.559
<v Speaker 2>is done by the Christians, actually the Catholics. The Catholics

987
01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:48.519
<v Speaker 2>split it and they have two covets. The Lutherans also,

988
01:00:48.599 --> 01:00:51.280
<v Speaker 2>but other Protestants don't. But here we see that the

989
01:00:51.440 --> 01:00:55.079
<v Speaker 2>mass Rates who set up our door reading, they agree

990
01:00:55.119 --> 01:00:58.719
<v Speaker 2>with the Catholics in this, and the tom Ellion also

991
01:00:58.760 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 2>make the short ones absucci. Yes, David says Eisen, regarding

992
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:06.199
<v Speaker 2>official positions held by women the Hebrew Academy, the Hebrew

993
01:01:06.239 --> 01:01:09.320
<v Speaker 2>Academy the Hebrew Language has decided that both roche and

994
01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:14.800
<v Speaker 2>rocha are acceptable for women, while the popular linguist asserts

995
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:18.599
<v Speaker 2>that only roche is acceptable and that the mayor of

996
01:01:18.679 --> 01:01:21.800
<v Speaker 2>your town, Eliza Blach, is rocha ear and not ear.

997
01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:27.079
<v Speaker 2>So we have to see the academy's decision. I guess

998
01:01:27.320 --> 01:01:35.119
<v Speaker 2>okay soroche has become a masculine and feminine today. Very interesting. Well,

999
01:01:35.320 --> 01:01:38.639
<v Speaker 2>my question from about kibolator of Kafa just I wanted

1000
01:01:38.719 --> 01:01:41.840
<v Speaker 2>to know about some of his views on the Zohar,

1001
01:01:41.960 --> 01:01:47.320
<v Speaker 2>but he didn't reply to me. Hipad says, I don't

1002
01:01:47.320 --> 01:01:49.119
<v Speaker 2>know why. Pad is a problem with knowing God from

1003
01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:51.400
<v Speaker 2>God's action is still the cave in shadow is issue.

1004
01:01:51.679 --> 01:01:54.599
<v Speaker 2>You can never know God in God's essence, that's clear.

1005
01:01:57.840 --> 01:02:00.800
<v Speaker 2>As Rabbi Sax said, when you mix politics and religion,

1006
01:02:00.840 --> 01:02:06.960
<v Speaker 2>you get bad politics and worse religion. Yes, it's if

1007
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:13.639
<v Speaker 2>you look at he had just stopped to You've had

1008
01:02:13.639 --> 01:02:16.639
<v Speaker 2>a lot of controversies and everything, and he turned people

1009
01:02:16.679 --> 01:02:18.719
<v Speaker 2>off with some of his views. Also, it's not just you.

1010
01:02:18.880 --> 01:02:21.480
<v Speaker 2>They say things that are going to offend people. You

1011
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<v Speaker 2>want the rabbis often to stay at effect of Weinberg

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<v Speaker 2>as an essay in which he speaks about how it's

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<v Speaker 2>important for the rabbi to be above politics the above

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<v Speaker 2>old disputes, and but often when the rabbis are brown

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<v Speaker 2>into politics, it's politics a dirty business and uh, it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to affect poorly and it's going to create problems.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll just say regarding Ravodio Safe because he got involved

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<v Speaker 2>in politics and shost Party was involved with Oslo. They

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<v Speaker 2>didn't veto it, they didn't vote against it, they abstained.

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<v Speaker 2>So many people in the right wing religious Zionist world

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<v Speaker 2>began seeing Audio Safe as like the opposition, and they

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<v Speaker 2>had protests in front of his house. You don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to have great rabbis where people are having protests in

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<v Speaker 2>front of their house. But of course, if you're a

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01:03:05.480 --> 01:03:08.239
<v Speaker 2>right wing religious Zionists and ahamadou Yo Safe is from

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<v Speaker 2>the determined whether to give up land, uh, then you

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<v Speaker 2>a protest is suitable. I guess. So with rub By Mazous,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell the whole story, and he would have been

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<v Speaker 2>the new Mahran. He is. This hardic world is split

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<v Speaker 2>into two groups. You have more of the right wing religious,

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01:03:26.559 --> 01:03:31.079
<v Speaker 2>right wing political group very close to the hardal in fact,

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<v Speaker 2>almost identicals in certain respects, and suddenly some of the Cardals.

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<v Speaker 2>That's Rubbed Mazous. In fact, when he ran for parliament,

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01:03:40.119 --> 01:03:44.039
<v Speaker 2>they made a unity between the Hardlim and his party

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<v Speaker 2>and he still couldn't get enough votes. It shows you

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<v Speaker 2>the hard Alim really don't have much in the way

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01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:53.840
<v Speaker 2>of electoral power. But there's a big split between he

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01:03:53.880 --> 01:03:56.880
<v Speaker 2>gits that Yo safe and of Shlam Cohen and the

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01:03:56.920 --> 01:04:00.360
<v Speaker 2>Shas Party and Rubby Mazous. Rub By Mazu was broke

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01:04:00.440 --> 01:04:02.320
<v Speaker 2>with the Shas Party. I'll tell you the whole story again,

1041
01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:04.719
<v Speaker 2>but I'll tell you just a minute now. Ravazus said,

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01:04:05.039 --> 01:04:08.280
<v Speaker 2>when Rava Yosi established a Shas party, Shas was supposed

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01:04:08.280 --> 01:04:09.760
<v Speaker 2>to mean this isn't one I stood for. But he

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01:04:09.840 --> 01:04:13.599
<v Speaker 2>said Shin shahfor for the black key pause and Samach

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01:04:13.719 --> 01:04:16.360
<v Speaker 2>for the Kipaster guns. That they should all be together.

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01:04:16.800 --> 01:04:20.679
<v Speaker 2>But now with Roeschel Cohen, there's no room for the

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01:04:21.320 --> 01:04:24.480
<v Speaker 2>religious Zionists, for the average fard who goes to the army.

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01:04:24.519 --> 01:04:27.519
<v Speaker 2>After Shell Cohen said that religious Zionists, he said, it's

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01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.519
<v Speaker 2>Amoic and he said a crazy stuff like you don't

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01:04:30.519 --> 01:04:32.119
<v Speaker 2>need an army. All we need is a sham. We

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01:04:32.159 --> 01:04:35.000
<v Speaker 2>don't need an army. So uh, I mean these are

1052
01:04:36.000 --> 01:04:41.039
<v Speaker 2>it became an extremist party. Is not that extreme. But

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01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:46.360
<v Speaker 2>there's a big split between Vitsako Rafsha and Cohen the

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01:04:46.360 --> 01:04:51.360
<v Speaker 2>Shas machinery and Rev. Mazouz and raf Amar chiefed by

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01:04:51.400 --> 01:04:55.079
<v Speaker 2>Jerusalem of the former Riginalazio, who is on Reva Mazuza's side.

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01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:59.159
<v Speaker 2>A complete split in this sardic world between where your loyalties.

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<v Speaker 2>And this has to do with the the Sigurim and

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01:05:03.280 --> 01:05:08.559
<v Speaker 2>the team of of Mazus. Of Mazus is trying to upschlang.

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01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:13.480
<v Speaker 2>He's to speak in Arabic. He's trying to reverse many

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01:05:13.559 --> 01:05:18.400
<v Speaker 2>of Ravaldiosef's rulings and the more importantly his political positions,

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<v Speaker 2>because all the years of Ravadiosa was in charge or

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01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:25.320
<v Speaker 2>of Mazus never publicly opposed him on any political thing. Ever,

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01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:27.920
<v Speaker 2>he even refused to be a member of the Mosas

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01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:30.599
<v Speaker 2>of the Shahs because he didn't want to dispute with him.

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<v Speaker 2>But as soon as Ahamada Josef had passed away, then

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01:05:33.440 --> 01:05:35.159
<v Speaker 2>he felt he was able to say that we don't

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<v Speaker 2>need to go along with you know, liberal politics, and

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01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:43.000
<v Speaker 2>we could be more conservative. Finally, suzann O Levin says

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<v Speaker 2>that Maharrad is rushed to vote. Yes, it's uh Madrichan.

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<v Speaker 2>Unlike the Maharrit, where it's a tent at the end,

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01:05:53.599 --> 01:05:56.159
<v Speaker 2>the maharat is a tough the Marat. The term mahrat

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<v Speaker 2>is invented by Rabbi Alvi Weiss. He created this and

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<v Speaker 2>some of the gradu, which the Vishiva Mahrat, don't like

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01:06:02.000 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 2>the term because again it's it's who knows what it

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<v Speaker 2>means and uh, And therefore some of them have changed

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<v Speaker 2>to the term rabba, which is a feminine for Rabbi

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01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:15.760
<v Speaker 2>Rov and others use the term rabbi. There's graduates of

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<v Speaker 2>Marat to use the term rabbi and others use rabbi

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<v Speaker 2>and others use maharat. And okay, well, oh, Madrichra or Morah?

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<v Speaker 2>What do I don't understand what you're saying now? Now

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<v Speaker 2>would be the last question, Madrica or Mora? We know

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01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:43.199
<v Speaker 2>more Madrica. I don't know what you're afraid to Obviously

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01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:46.280
<v Speaker 2>that's that that that's a feminine for Madrid. Oh, just

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01:06:46.320 --> 01:06:49.800
<v Speaker 2>same it the hay ending U no, but I'm yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Madric Madrigal, of course. Yeah, those are examples. I was

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<v Speaker 2>referring to, uh, the two letter words like rov, rabbi,

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01:06:57.800 --> 01:07:08.000
<v Speaker 2>par parah ram rama. That's why I gave those examples. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>with that, my rock, My my rock stands for what

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<v Speaker 2>I said before. That's it's moro. It's mora sorry, not madre.

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<v Speaker 2>Morah hatit sorry Morah hill hatit. I forget now what

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01:07:27.880 --> 01:07:32.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, but I had it before, so uh, mora hatit.

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<v Speaker 2>Someone can tell me what it stands for. I don't

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01:07:34.400 --> 01:07:43.800
<v Speaker 2>even remember mora raban turn something like that. Okay, I

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01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:48.079
<v Speaker 2>don't need to memorize it because it's not classic. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not part of classical rabbinic terminology's uh creation. And we'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>He himself said he doesn't know whether it'll last more

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<v Speaker 2>than one generation. He said, it all depends that the

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01:07:58.360 --> 01:08:01.880
<v Speaker 2>women take the term or not. Uh, but he felt yes,

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<v Speaker 2>thank you and uh and maharat. He he himself gave

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<v Speaker 2>to a woman who went with the title goes the

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<v Speaker 2>title raba. So we'll see whether that lasts. And okay,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't need to last. If you see an Israel

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<v Speaker 2>they use rabbanit, so what do we need such a

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01:08:23.840 --> 01:08:27.399
<v Speaker 2>strange title maharat for it? If you want to use

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<v Speaker 2>the title rab ai. In fact, I said to one

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<v Speaker 2>of these women who uses it, I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand why you use it, because she gave a whole

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<v Speaker 2>talk and how equality. I said, if you want to

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<v Speaker 2>be equal, uh, use the title rabbi. I personally am

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<v Speaker 2>not into the whole women rabbi thing, but uh, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't get it. If you if you really believe your

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<v Speaker 2>equal and it should be the difference, then you should

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<v Speaker 2>call yourself rabbi. But went by definition. When you call

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01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:56.239
<v Speaker 2>yourself mahat, it's like when you it means you're not

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<v Speaker 2>the same. It's there's something different. And we know that

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<v Speaker 2>maharat was chosen because they didn't want to be controversy.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never a It was always the Davod my run.

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<v Speaker 2>So now that that bridge has been crossed, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's that's neither here nor there here.

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