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Speaker 1: Hello, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to a Geek First retrospective.

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I'm the Nave Wonder Tras Now I'm joined by.

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Speaker 2: Meals On Wheels, kirkle Patzer.

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Speaker 3: I am the Jujub Dilmas.

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Speaker 4: I am the Ranger Rick taylor Field.

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Speaker 5: I feel like mine's only when you for sure would

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get it unless you know the movie or you tune

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in the twenty four hour stream. It's a huge that

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got us through a couple hours there. But yes, we

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are to be like, Okay, this is not as big

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as Lord of the Rings, we wait for yours won the

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series and whatnot, but this is definitely one of the

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retros we had talked about early on.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah when we.

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Speaker 5: Started retros, like, oh, we're gonna get it. You know

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that sequel will finally do. We kept holding off, holding off,

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and it's weird, like it's not not much of a

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landmark for me, because like Fike, the bigger landmarks or

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the End Games, the Rise of Skywalker, stuff like that,

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but this is still like it's a movie that you know,

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when we started this podcast, had no idea what was

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coming out, very anticipated whatnot, and it is here in

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a couple of weeks and stuff like that. You begin

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in this episode early if you're on Patreon, but either way,

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it's in a couple of weeks in the month of December,

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which will be happening in three hours by time of

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recording this. So today, where can they find everything we

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Speaker 5: I'm waiting for that one start like I want to

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follow you on Patreon, but I don't know everything you

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Speaker 4: He reads them too fast, too hard to find.

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Speaker 7: Something that maybe they're fine until you just call them

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a fucker. He's like, oh, this guy, he's calling me

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and we thank you very much. So usually I guess

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I would end off with them, but you know, I'm

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gonna start with him because I want to start on

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the highs. Tear fields. Take us Take us back too.

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I mean, I assume it's two thousand and nine, but

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if not, take us back to whenever you saw this

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movie for the first time, and then what do you

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you know, a couple of weeks away from Avatar, the

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Speaker 4: Saw this.

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Speaker 6: I don't know if it was opening weekend, but it

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it coming to theaters because I didn't I didn't know

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really what I was in for. I don't even remember

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seeing trailers for it or anything like that. Two thousand

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and nine. I was in grade nine at the time,

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definitely was not running the theater to see Avatar opening night.

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Speaker 4: Wow, what I did see it.

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Speaker 6: I remember I was with my friends and it was

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a really really pleasant surprise. There were some friends that

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then the fourth time. Yeah, same run. Fourth time was

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within that month. Remember my family somehow got a DVD

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Speaker 5: So, uh, wait when did you watch it on DVD

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Speaker 1: The month? Yeah, so I legally downloaded.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember.

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Speaker 5: The fans been such a fucking hypocrite.

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Speaker 8: You know.

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Speaker 5: Many times there's like, oh I can't find Daredevil. Oh

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maybe just find a way to watch it. I can't

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do that. I can't break Hey.

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Speaker 6: I remember my family comes into my my home that

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I wasn't owning. It was my parents home, and says, hey,

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I got this, let me.

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Speaker 5: Looking at you watch this with me, or I'm going

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to put a bullet in you Are you telling them?

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Are you telling them that our Pandora copy that we

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Speaker 4: So uh four times in that first month.

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Speaker 6: It was definitely a lot of Avatar, and as as

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the years progressed, I always made a point of re

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watching it, like every single year I've seen it. I

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see this movie at least once or twice every single year.

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And finally came to the point where, Okay, there's like

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three extended editions or like sorry, the theatrical and then

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Speaker 4: It's three version.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, there's no cover.

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Speaker 6: So for me, Avatar has been something that I whenever

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movie like if it's on the TV and I find

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 7: So today you're home for from work at your lunch,

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Speaker 6: Oh I wasn't home. I wasn't at home from my lunch.

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I didn't go home and take a picture. This fucked up.

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Speaker 4: I just had the photo from the night before That's

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what I was reministic about. All Right, I go home,

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my lunch bakes, take photos, and my lego sets to

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Speaker 1: You better noting.

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Speaker 2: Avatar was an honor working touch.

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Speaker 5: It, man, it said, I have a picture of it

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Speaker 2: He puts a hair over it.

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Speaker 1: No, man, but.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to think of I spent probably hours

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where Avatar fits and how it fits in journalism, movie,

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for for me in the world. And I just like

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Speaker 3: I'll cop out.

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Speaker 5: I'll save it for Avatar only, Avatar red show tailor

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what Avatar fucking sucks?

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Speaker 1: What if you hate it?

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Speaker 4: What if Avatar sucks?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 4: That's why we're here because I love next. Oh well,

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it won't affect.

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Speaker 2: The speech, Okay, write down the speech.

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Speaker 4: All right, fine, you persuaded me. I'm at a.

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Speaker 1: Saving it for my litter box, actually.

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Speaker 4: My litter box.

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Speaker 1: I'm sticking it through my letter books. Sorry, I can't

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Speaker 6: So when it comes to be like Avatar, yes, it's

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it's very uh convoluted where everyone stands with it. Yes,

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it made a lot of money, that's for certain, but

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it's definitely a divided fan base.

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Speaker 4: It's got the.

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Speaker 6: Cult following, which I'm a member of, and then it's

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got the other group of people that are exactly it's

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got the other group of people that definitely go way

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over the top.

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Speaker 4: And they dress up and they go blue skin all

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the time and everything, and I'm not.

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Speaker 1: There the people. I don't think you're in the cal No,

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Speaker 2: That's not a cult.

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Speaker 4: Oh no, No, that's.

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Speaker 1: Like dressing up in your regular day and you're in

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the Call.

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Speaker 4: That's the deity group or whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 2: Than they actually put on the page.

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Speaker 3: They have a dark community.

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Speaker 6: But with that Vatar itself, I've always just been really

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Speaker 4: It's all this jazz.

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Speaker 6: But that's where I like Avatar, and not only the

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sense that it's just a cinematic wonder. It's an awesome film,

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just really kind of putting out awesome scenery and aesthetics

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and everything like that, with great brown and greaking three

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at its core, I think that what Avatar really really

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does well is that it reciprocates a message that I

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think people need to hear but don't want to take

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part in. And I think that is at the end

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of the day, to its core, is that humans.

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Speaker 1: That's just it.

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Speaker 6: Humans can be ultimately pieces of shit, but then we're

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shit unfortunately outweigh the goodness that people can do. And

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this movie that people don't want to see. People look

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at it from the cinematic point like, oh, that was

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such a shitty movie, just doing the shitty kind of storyline. Oh,

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it's all overreacted, all over hype and stuff. So I

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and I feel like that. I feel like there's there's

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people that like freak out like that kind of stuff,

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because when he's in the cult.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, he's saying people are civil wars amongst the cult,

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and you say, yeah, different actions.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're.

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Speaker 5: Saying people don't want to see that. It's hard to

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but that's not to see it.

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Speaker 6: It's a difference between like wanting to see it and

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like needing to just take like see what is being

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Speaker 4: Because I know people that.

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it's not it's not like they needed to see it.

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Speaker 4: To see it.

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me start fresh, let me start fresh. They need to

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see it came from people that they knew that, We're like,

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we need to see this because it's biggest Stars movie

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of all time, so that their want was never existent.

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Speaker 4: And I think that same notion applies over here.

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Speaker 6: That same notion applies to the Avatar, where the need

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to see it is only because it's a billion dollar movie.

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It's making tons of box of the box office, so

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there's no want to see it, and when they want

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to see this movie and they indulge in it, they

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don't accept what they need to uh understand from this movie.

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people need to really understand where we fit into just

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this kind of narrative of life and how the human

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race can kind of fit in. And yes, we can

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have it so easily explained in such a baseline view

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of it being a cinematic experience, having the nave and

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all these made makeup believe like storylines, narrative characters, all

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that stuff. That's great, and I think it sugarcoats in

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a very fine way. But at the end of the day,

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why it's reciprocating a story that we've seen before and

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other narratives that we're familiar with, is because I think,

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and it's core. I think James Cameron, especially to wants

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to at least help us understand that there are certain

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things that people turn a blind eye to, and I

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think we need to really open our eyes a lot

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Speaker 4: We just we just don't.

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Speaker 6: I think Avatar is a great reminder and I I

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always I always have joked about this before, but you know,

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it makes you want to be tra.

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Speaker 7: I think that was your best delivery yet the third

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attempt there you were you steered back.

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Speaker 2: On the road.

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Speaker 1: I got in there.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, tries to have all that probably not.

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Speaker 1: Spectrum.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know it's a it's a great speech, and

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many part is that true. But I think there's a

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reason she has camera this movie because you just want

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to make a three D movie with some fucking blue aliens.

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or Dancers with wolves or fern Gully, because it's like, well,

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that's worked before. But that's not even my biggest problems.

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Speaker 1: I had seen this movie.

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Speaker 5: I did see this opening weekend because at that point

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in two that this is post two thousand and eight,

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Speaker 1: Is post Dark Knights.

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Speaker 5: And now I'm like, coming off a Dark Knight eleven

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times theater, I'm like, this is m like kicks s

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Bub's ass on a letter box any day of the

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week and stuff like that. Because I'm just seeing movies.

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I'm soaking it all in. I was that cent Oh,

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I wouldn't be going to open like No, I had that.

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I'm like, Okay, this big movie is coming out. It's

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Jim camer Any Terminator did Titanic?

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Speaker 2: I was, of course, me.

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Speaker 1: And Jim go way back Jimmingham.

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Speaker 2: Yeah the boards right, that's where you used to be.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, the forums that were huge. Yeah, yeah, he was Jimbo.

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Speaker 5: But anyway, so, no, I had seen that movie or

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this movie. I've seen it now four times in full.

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I saw one. I saw the opening weekend. I saw

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it again because I don't think it is anymore. But

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for a while it was my sister's favorite movie of

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all time. She loved Avatar. So I went back watching with.

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Speaker 4: Her, dressing up and all blue. She's I didn't sit

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with her.

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Speaker 5: I just I just busted with her and I sat

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in the back. But no, and then of course, like

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once it got home to DVD.

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Speaker 2: You didn't sit with your sister. You went to see.

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Speaker 5: I'm not speaking like Taylor over pop can't accept. Then

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they accept it and the people accept.

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Speaker 2: It for the slow people there you go.

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Speaker 5: So and then I saw it once. Of course it

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came to you know, Blu ray or DVD whatever it is.

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then it was a few maybe a year ago, meaning

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they tried to watch and we got about hour in

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and we're like, okay, that's enough. And then so this was

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my fourth full time. I liked it enough back in

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the day. I think for me what happened was because

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it became the biggest.

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Speaker 1: Movie all time for me.

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Speaker 5: I'm not talking about the Taylor aspect of whatever called.

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They're talking about life. And I know there was that

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whole section of people that were depressed when they found

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out they couldn't go to Pandora.

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Speaker 1: It was two thousand and nine, was it.

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Speaker 2: I that Wow, weird.

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Speaker 1: It's a weird.

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Speaker 5: It's a real thing about people getting depressed when they

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like got out of the movie and that couldn't be them.

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I think it's the idea of like a Jake Sully

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going into machine you escape whatever, Go pick up a

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fucking video game, me escape every day. So anyways, so

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you have that going on, so as it's ramping up,

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and it's ramping up and getting bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 1: That's when it started the whole ball.

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best movie all time. And that's where I really would

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always push back against it, because even at that age,

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I was like, and this was the age where I started

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to turn away like the big blockbuster stuff, I wasn't

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that interested in, like just for the sake of oh

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look transformers, Like no, I need a sexual story here.

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that's why I was a big campaign for the hurt Locker.

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Thank god the hurt lock one for the Academy Awards.

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the few times I've seen at home, I think it's

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definitely a much much better theatrical experience. I think once

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you're at home it loses that magic. And I will

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say it's definitely one of those three D movies at

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the time where it's like, wow, look at this tech.

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Speaker 1: And that's because you look into it.

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Speaker 5: They use lots of three D equipment. They filmed in

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the three D. It was bread and like I was

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gonna say, butter, it was just bread.

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Speaker 1: To be it was buttered. It was bread, it was

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buttered to be a fully.

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Speaker 5: Three D experience that was very successful that a bunch

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of movies like, let's copy that, but they didn't want

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to do the full three D thing.

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Speaker 1: We'll just film it convert it. So I will give

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Speaker 5: But that's where I feel like every time I watched

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this movie, and even this time, I started fall asleep,

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so I took a nap and came back to it. Uh,

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like Transformer movies like oh, I don't know why people

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couldn't like that or like like this or how.

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Speaker 1: They watch this.

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Speaker 5: I get why people like it, but for me, there's

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just nothing too interesting about it when the story to me,

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like we talkt about it, that's not a big conference,

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but like it has been done before, it has been

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done much much better.

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Speaker 1: So it's like if I want to watch it for that, fine.

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Speaker 5: The effects are good, but nowadays, like I don't think

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they're bad now, they're just something about the nove that

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just like they you know, when they talk aout people

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that have a punchable face. That's just like the nove

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as like a race. I'm not trying to sound like

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racist against the novel.

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Speaker 3: They would fuck you up, they would, but that's fine.

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Speaker 5: Like there's just something, there's just something about them. They

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look creepy and I don't really want to watch them. Uh,

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this is something I wasn't pick up in two thousand

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and nine. The dialogue in this movie is fucking awful.

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Speaker 9: Man.

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Speaker 5: The first act I felt like, and Taylor will loves,

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I felt like I was watching like some Xbox First

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Party shooter game or something like that. Like I think

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Gears of War has better writing than some of the

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stuff going on in here. And that's where I would say, dude,

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that's where the problem is with this movie. About what

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you're talking about, Taylor. It's definitely there. But then James

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Cameron also has this really big like dude broie side.

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Like you watch his movie, he's a big dude bro.

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He's the same guy that you can go read his

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Spider Man's script, like his Spider Man script, like he

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like webbed mg up and she was stuck and he's like,

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oh Spider Man, Like they like there's this very like

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bro eat it so James care always says.

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Speaker 2: This one are the dude.

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Speaker 6: I missed those completely. This I know, like the main

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ranger Wreck is very dude broy but I never got.

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Speaker 5: Even Jake's selling the middle movie, like when he sees

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that monsters, yeah, piss off, Yeah, little bitch ass, Like

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why do I need to see military bitch ass? And

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while he's a novie like that's the time for a

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little bitch ass, It's like what uh? And I think

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there's just a lot of stuff before I throw it

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over story wise that I would even like of why

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the nave are just kind of fine with these like

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air walkers hanging out like it.

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Speaker 1: There's so much.

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Speaker 5: Stuff that when we when you really peel back do Onion,

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that's when the movie starts to fall apart. If you

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just want to watch as a big action venture, sure,

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but again there's other shorter action adventure movies I would

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want to watch as well, because I feel this runtime.

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I love Lord of the Rings, I love Endgame, I

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love The Godfather. I watched those that feels like a

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brisk ten minutes, like what adventure this? This was a

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slog for me to get through again, So I don't

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think I'll ever not watch it again, but it will

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be because my girls want to watch it. Oh, sure

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we can watch after, but I will never seek it out.

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I'm not like Taylor. I wouldn't eve want his background

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nois I'd rather just like turn the TV off. So yeah,

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I at the end of day like to spoil my square,

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like it's still pass.

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Speaker 1: The movie for me, but nothing that I would return to.

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Speaker 5: And I am interested to see what this sequels like,

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but I think it's gonna be more the same, maybe

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a little bit better, but more of the same.

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Speaker 1: So those are my overalls. Kirklan Dylan who wants to

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Speaker 2: Go ahead, Kirk, all right, I'll lift the mood back

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up here.

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Speaker 1: All right.

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Speaker 7: I love this movie so much. I saw this, I

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guess two thousand and nine, and like when did it

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come out?

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Speaker 2: Like which month? You know?

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Speaker 4: In December?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two nine? The month, yeah December?

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Speaker 7: Okay, So I guess I would have seen this in

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twenty ten because I this was I think the last

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time like me, my sister, and my parents, like the family,

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the four of us just went and saw a movie

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together because that was my sister's grad year. So like

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she she moved away like immediately afterwards, So it was

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just it's weird that like that was actually the last

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time that we're all getting together for this. And then

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for way Water, I got tickets for me. I'm going

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with my parents, and then I sent my sister a message.

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She lives like twelve hours away, so she's not gonna

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be able to make it, but still it's it's a

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fun little like circle moment, you know. It's like this

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movie that just brings us together. And like before, I

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rewatched it for this retcho as well, I watched it

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like with my last time Shane, I went to visit

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my sister.

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Speaker 2: We threw it on and watched it, and I love it.

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Speaker 7: I think, like Travis, you brought up some great points

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00:19:42,759 --> 00:19:45,079
about like just some of the writing. It just doesn't

478
00:19:45,079 --> 00:19:47,839
fully hold up of like the top peak quality of

479
00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,319
like scriptwriting that I've seen in the past on other

480
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,559
movies or whatnot. But fortunately that doesn't phaze me. Like

481
00:19:53,599 --> 00:19:55,920
I'm really just in it, like you said, like an

482
00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:59,359
easy action adventure like thing, and it's not a super

483
00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,279
original story by any means, but I think that the

484
00:20:01,319 --> 00:20:04,519
execution of it is just so top class. Like I

485
00:20:04,559 --> 00:20:07,440
watched this with shay On I don't know, two days ago,

486
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,279
and like like she even made the commience, Like I

487
00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:12,079
can't believe how like well the CGI still holds up,

488
00:20:12,079 --> 00:20:14,720
like it looks better than twenty twenty two CGI that

489
00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:16,839
I've seen for like a lot of different projects just

490
00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,400
this year alone. Right, So huge credit to like that

491
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,440
whole team. Obviously they spent a good penny on like

492
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,400
all that stuff, but clearly it worked out because this

493
00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,880
is like nearly a three billion dollar uh box office

494
00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,359
or just total money whatever that is. So yeah, I

495
00:20:33,039 --> 00:20:36,240
love the execution of how Beautiful it is. Bought my

496
00:20:36,279 --> 00:20:38,599
new TV this year, so it looked mighty fine watching

497
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:42,200
it on there, and yeah, it's it's just it's just

498
00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,519
a fun time. I feel like the character of Jake Sully,

499
00:20:44,759 --> 00:20:46,799
Yeah he's got those dude bro moments. But I feel

500
00:20:46,839 --> 00:20:49,000
like Sam Sam Worthington, is that.

501
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:51,559
Speaker 2: The actor Sam, Yeah, I think he's.

502
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,400
Speaker 7: I think he's like really solid for this type of character,

503
00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:56,279
which is like I love him and Clash.

504
00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,200
Speaker 2: Of the Titans.

505
00:20:57,279 --> 00:20:59,599
Speaker 7: I think that's and it's just like he just fits

506
00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,519
that like protagonist, like main character in a video game

507
00:21:02,599 --> 00:21:04,960
type type role, not not too much further than that.

508
00:21:05,759 --> 00:21:08,680
But I think it works because I think the story,

509
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,640
although it's not like super original, I think it's still

510
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:15,440
like hits, like those emotional chords. It's probably just because

511
00:21:15,759 --> 00:21:18,880
that original story of something like pokemonas something like for Angalie,

512
00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,200
just like again the human race as Taylor was going

513
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:25,160
off on just taking over and ruining planets and stuff

514
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:28,160
like that, and it makes the story like more engaging

515
00:21:28,319 --> 00:21:30,880
than just dumb action on screen, at least for me.

516
00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:34,839
And I think that like the whole, the whole uh

517
00:21:35,279 --> 00:21:38,759
just I guess lower behind the NAVV and iway I

518
00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:40,720
think is like their deity that they go on about,

519
00:21:40,759 --> 00:21:45,960
like it's I think all of that day, hey, thank you,

520
00:21:47,519 --> 00:21:50,559
so yeah, I like all that stuff and the run time.

521
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

522
00:21:51,519 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 7: I think for the action adventure it I want something

523
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:57,039
like Doune where I can just like sit down and

524
00:21:57,079 --> 00:21:59,440
get totally immersed. And that's exactly what I get out

525
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:03,440
of this movie. Like it feels like two parts almost,

526
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,319
like when when they have like their initial adventure and

527
00:22:05,319 --> 00:22:07,960
then when they're like getting ready for war like essentially

528
00:22:08,079 --> 00:22:11,000
I guess like the world tree and afterwards like it's

529
00:22:11,079 --> 00:22:13,880
it's like there's so much more action yet to come

530
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,519
at that point, and I love I love it for

531
00:22:16,559 --> 00:22:19,640
that reason. Obviously, it's a time comitment, like what nearly

532
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,279
three hours I think this movie.

533
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:22,839
Speaker 2: Two.

534
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, So I I really really like this movie. And

535
00:22:26,319 --> 00:22:28,920
I've seen it I don't know, maybe six or seven times,

536
00:22:29,519 --> 00:22:32,000
but like, I feel like every every watch has been

537
00:22:32,039 --> 00:22:34,279
like super enjoyable. It's it's not like I've watched like

538
00:22:34,279 --> 00:22:35,759
half of it and turned it off, Like I've totally

539
00:22:35,759 --> 00:22:38,799
been engaged, and yeah, I love this movie. I'm excited

540
00:22:38,839 --> 00:22:41,200
to break down the details. Obviously, it's just become like

541
00:22:41,279 --> 00:22:44,200
these these mean moments, probably due to the podcast and

542
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,160
the twenty four hour streams that's just going off about

543
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:49,079
Jujuvi's So there's like leading up to a certain scene

544
00:22:49,079 --> 00:22:50,519
that I'm sure we'll talk about it. I'm just like

545
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:52,880
giggling to myself and Shade has no idea because she's

546
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:54,759
not in on these inside jokes and she don't even

547
00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,400
want to know because she knows it's just stupid humor,

548
00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:56,920
which it is.

549
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:00,079
Speaker 2: But I uh, I love it.

550
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:00,759
Speaker 3: It's great humor.

551
00:23:00,799 --> 00:23:01,480
Speaker 2: What are you talking about?

552
00:23:01,559 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 7: Yeah, she's in the wrong. It's like the joker thing.

553
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:05,839
You wouldn't get it.

554
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 2: I'm like smoking my cigarette on the couch.

555
00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: For me, my story with Avatar is a lot shorter

556
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,240
than you guys, which is that I did not see

557
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:18,400
this in theaters, which I don't know if that lends

558
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,400
to my thoughts on it. But I remember watching it

559
00:23:21,559 --> 00:23:24,759
like probably like soon after it hit Blu Ray whatever

560
00:23:24,799 --> 00:23:27,240
it was, at my cousin's place, watched it with him,

561
00:23:27,319 --> 00:23:30,759
and I don't I just I have like no memory

562
00:23:30,759 --> 00:23:32,799
of that, like watching it again this week may as

563
00:23:32,839 --> 00:23:34,880
well have been the first time I watched. I just

564
00:23:35,559 --> 00:23:37,839
was in one year out the other. Apparently when I

565
00:23:37,839 --> 00:23:39,960
watched that one, I think the run time was something

566
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,240
even though I like Lord of the Rings back in

567
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:45,279
the day, but that just felt incredibly long. But yeah,

568
00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:48,599
I guess that's that to me though. That's like interesting

569
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,240
because I was at that perfect ripe agent like middle

570
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,400
school there where I should have really liked this, I think,

571
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,440
and I don't know why I didn't, And since it's

572
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,279
such a fleeting memory, I really couldn't tell you. I

573
00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:02,519
don't think I had like an analytical mind for that

574
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,000
when I was watching this at the time. But anyway,

575
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,039
watching it again now this will be the second time

576
00:24:09,079 --> 00:24:12,640
I've watched it, but truly feels like the first and yeah,

577
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,160
I got I gotta say more on Traps's side of

578
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,880
things here, where I just I don't know, there's that

579
00:24:20,039 --> 00:24:22,200
element that Taylor was talking about with the kind of

580
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:27,839
colonialism storyline, and I guess it just felt like level

581
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,119
one of that, like it never there was never really

582
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,680
any nuance to it. I think when I look at this,

583
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,079
I'm like, I wonder why this has affected people so much,

584
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,480
and I'm very curious to hear more reasons from Taylor

585
00:24:38,519 --> 00:24:40,720
and Kirkland. Obviously guys just gave a lot there. But

586
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:43,400
you know, one thing that I think is really cool

587
00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:46,160
in concept for this is that, like how many big

588
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:50,079
budget action movies is there with a lead protagonist is

589
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:52,839
someone who's disabled? Like, that's really cool, and I'm sure

590
00:24:52,839 --> 00:24:56,200
that is. That's the thing where I wonder for disabled

591
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,319
people if that is an inspiration because this movie does it,

592
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,440
or if it's not, because it's kind of like the

593
00:25:01,519 --> 00:25:03,680
sci fi element where it's like, oh, but then he

594
00:25:03,759 --> 00:25:05,839
becomes not disabled.

595
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,440
Speaker 5: And he can do the whole stories about either you

596
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,400
can be na fe and not disabled, or you can

597
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,119
stay with us humans and not be disabled.

598
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,480
Speaker 1: It's all about you don't want to be disabled.

599
00:25:13,079 --> 00:25:16,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, which so I wonder if that is actually something

600
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:20,200
that they enjoy about this or if they just feel

601
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,279
like it kind of botches that idea. But I mean,

602
00:25:22,319 --> 00:25:25,440
I think beyond just like being physically disabled, like being

603
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,400
in a wheelchair something like that, even for people who

604
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:30,480
maybe are struggling mentally or some other thing, like maybe

605
00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:33,480
they find some solace in having a lead protagonist of

606
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,160
a character like this. But like I mean, I'm that

607
00:25:37,319 --> 00:25:40,079
is not my perspective on it. And I just found

608
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,720
that this guy was just like cut any charisma out

609
00:25:43,759 --> 00:25:45,559
of any scene I was watching. I think it's very

610
00:25:45,599 --> 00:25:48,119
hard for me to get invested in a story when,

611
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,599
especially this long of a movie, when the protagonist is

612
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,319
someone that I just don't care about at all. And

613
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,680
I really tried, and unfortunately that just kind of bleeds

614
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:01,559
into everything, like it's it's the action, it's the romance thing,

615
00:26:01,559 --> 00:26:04,799
the overall narrative. I if you guys ever watched like

616
00:26:05,799 --> 00:26:08,200
one of those interviews with a serial killer or something

617
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,519
like that, and they have like a polygraph or something

618
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,880
and they're talking about what they've done and they just

619
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,799
because they don't have empathy, like they just nothing tracks

620
00:26:16,799 --> 00:26:18,759
for them, you know, like they're talking about these just

621
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,559
things that make everyone sick their stomach, but they for them,

622
00:26:21,599 --> 00:26:24,200
it's like nothing, no blip in the brain. That was

623
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,960
me watching Avatar, like nothing, nothing moved me anywhere. It

624
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480
wasn't even that I was like I actively hate this,

625
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,799
but there was nothing that I liked either. I was

626
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:40,079
just like a blank, emotionless person for three hours straight. Yeah,

627
00:26:40,079 --> 00:26:42,279
and then it felt like three hours. I mean I did.

628
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,000
I watched this in three sittings, so like a TV show,

629
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:46,839
and it still felt like, oh God, each time I

630
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,000
gotta sit down, it felt like, I mean, it is work,

631
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:52,200
you know, for the podcast, and it really felt like it.

632
00:26:52,279 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 4: So was this on one point five speed?

633
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 8: No.

634
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:56,559
Speaker 3: I watched this in good old.

635
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:58,680
Speaker 6: I.

636
00:26:58,839 --> 00:27:01,720
Speaker 3: I really, I try. I tried my hardest. But yeah,

637
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,279
I'm I'm excited to hear more of your guys reasons.

638
00:27:04,319 --> 00:27:06,720
But yeah, for me, it's one that I don't think

639
00:27:06,759 --> 00:27:09,160
i'll ever watch again. I don't really see a reason too,

640
00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:12,680
and I'm not very excited for the sequel. I do

641
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:17,680
have my ticket. I'm gonna be there, so I'm gonna

642
00:27:17,839 --> 00:27:19,480
but I'm gonna go in. I'm gonna try and be

643
00:27:19,519 --> 00:27:21,880
positive once again. You guys all mention that, like, the

644
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,680
theater experience is such a profound thing for this and

645
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:26,279
I think that could be a good thing too, because,

646
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,359
as to Kirkland's point, like this this was Momot said game.

647
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,440
This movie still looks amazing. This cgi is fantastic and

648
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,240
there's cool stuff. I wish I cared more about Pandora

649
00:27:35,319 --> 00:27:38,480
as as a place as a people, but like, visually

650
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,960
it is amazing, So I am excited to see that

651
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:43,720
in theaters. I also haven't gone to a three D

652
00:27:43,839 --> 00:27:45,759
movie in a long time. I'm not like Maddie where

653
00:27:45,799 --> 00:27:49,240
I just absolutely hate three D, so I hope I

654
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:52,200
can have that immersed experience, which I haven't been able

655
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,880
to have as I've only seen this movie on a

656
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:56,839
couch at home. So there you go.

657
00:27:58,599 --> 00:28:01,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, let's take first ad break and then we're

658
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:06,079
gonna get into all the Pandora and Nave and Jake Goodness.

659
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: Will be right back.

660
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 5: And we're back. Yeah, let let's start with our predatus.

661
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,920
I want to start with Jake's Jake Sule Yeah, the

662
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,759
Big Baby.

663
00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was gonna be my name. I think it

664
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:19,519
was The Big Baby.

665
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 5: Just now, Yeah, I remember I remember my dad just like,

666
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,119
how many fucking times are gonna say big baby. I'm like, yeah,

667
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:32,319
they're going, They're going. He doesn't say big baby baby,

668
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,960
It's like, what copy did you get?

669
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:35,160
Speaker 1: Does say little baby?

670
00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,359
Speaker 4: What does she call a little or anything like a baby?

671
00:28:39,039 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 2: Like a baby?

672
00:28:39,759 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: And then get it like that sounds like little to

673
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:43,119
some people.

674
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:44,839
Speaker 1: Michael Snell. Yeah.

675
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 5: And then and then my dad I could just see

676
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,759
his eyes rolling the back of his head when it ended.

677
00:28:48,839 --> 00:28:50,880
She's like holding like a baby and she's, oh my

678
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:56,519
fucking god. So I was like a little baby.

679
00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, I get it, Like oh man.

680
00:28:58,839 --> 00:29:02,759
Speaker 5: But anyways, that's some experience with Michael snow during this

681
00:29:02,839 --> 00:29:04,599
fundy uh yeah, because that was the same thing I

682
00:29:04,599 --> 00:29:06,319
saw with my family too. And I will say not

683
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,240
to sound like Martin Scorsese, but I I'm not gonna

684
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:12,000
say this is in cinema. I'm not gonna go that far,

685
00:29:12,079 --> 00:29:14,880
but I think this is like what he describes. And

686
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:16,920
people can't even feel this way about the Marvel stuff.

687
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,400
That's fine, but that's where I feel like. The first

688
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,880
one is like it feels very much like an amusement

689
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,960
park ride in the theaters, and that's what makes it

690
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:24,039
like a bigger moment.

691
00:29:24,119 --> 00:29:26,079
Speaker 1: So hopefully the second one will have that.

692
00:29:26,119 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 5: But yeah, let's let's start with Jake's Sally because I'm

693
00:29:28,599 --> 00:29:32,200
I'm much like Dylan where Sam Worthington's in this movie.

694
00:29:32,839 --> 00:29:35,599
Pops Hollywood for a while tried to make him a

695
00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:37,559
guy like he wasn't Clash Titans, he was in a

696
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,039
Terminator after that. But I think there's a reason he

697
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:42,200
just never became one of those top guys because there

698
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,920
is just for me, there's just even when he's Jake

699
00:29:45,079 --> 00:29:47,920
or when he's Nave Jake, it's all the same.

700
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,279
Speaker 7: And I know that's hard to don't forget he was

701
00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:52,240
also Tommy in the credits.

702
00:29:51,839 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 5: Oh fuck yeah, or if he's Tommy whoever. Yeah, like

703
00:29:55,799 --> 00:29:58,599
when he's alive and when it's the corpse, there's no

704
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,559
difference as far as his level, you know, like they're

705
00:30:01,599 --> 00:30:04,160
the same. And yeah, I just that's where I feel

706
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,599
like it is very video gaming, because I think it's

707
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,400
almost you have to pour what you wanted that character.

708
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,960
But the difference is a video game you can kind

709
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
of get away with that because you're making the choices.

710
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,079
Speaker 1: We don't make Jake's choices here, so I.

711
00:30:15,839 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 5: I I think he's fine in a way of he

712
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:20,920
doesn't he just has to be the guy, like he

713
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:21,200
has to.

714
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:22,039
Speaker 1: Be our main character.

715
00:30:22,119 --> 00:30:26,519
Speaker 5: But I don't really invest in him that I don't

716
00:30:26,559 --> 00:30:28,319
care about him that much. I think the only person

717
00:30:28,359 --> 00:30:30,279
I really care about this is NATURI. That's the only

718
00:30:30,319 --> 00:30:32,599
person I care in this movie. Better than that, it

719
00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:34,400
just kind of yeah, there's I don't have much say

720
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,440
on Sam, Like it's not bad acting, it's just just

721
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:41,240
mean potatoes, very just kind of paint by numbers.

722
00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 1: You know. I can't I can't invest in Jake Swooley.

723
00:30:43,599 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: So that's so yeah.

724
00:30:46,359 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 7: To give my little take on it, I I feel

725
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,720
like they do again, maybe it's just because it's kind

726
00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,599
of limited in the performance or whatnot, But like I

727
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,720
think he fits the role of just that like former

728
00:30:57,359 --> 00:31:00,400
jar head, you know type character, where like he is

729
00:31:00,519 --> 00:31:03,039
just a meathead, like he doesn't really make smart decisions

730
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:06,359
at all, and is disrespectful and many times like throughout

731
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,839
just I don't know, like dealing with the TII or

732
00:31:08,839 --> 00:31:12,599
like just the native people the Nave and like their

733
00:31:12,839 --> 00:31:15,279
their way of thinking or whatnot. And I think that

734
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480
like that performance it fits what a character like that

735
00:31:19,519 --> 00:31:21,799
would be like he very much is that jar head.

736
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,599
And although there's not like an allscrowinging performance of him,

737
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,759
like I don't know, having like a very obvious shift,

738
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,559
but I think the like doing the vlogs and stuff

739
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,680
helps a lot at least for me to like see

740
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,200
that transition of him starting to realize that like this

741
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,319
is actually kind of fucked up, and like I feel

742
00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:41,880
like like it seems like they're going in that direction

743
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,200
of like he he is this like change person just

744
00:31:45,319 --> 00:31:47,559
again like becoming like one of the nave and like

745
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,400
their way of thinking of.

746
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: I help me, Taylor, what's the deity's name?

747
00:31:52,759 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 7: I way awa awa, I'll get it.

748
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: I'll get it right next time.

749
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,039
Speaker 7: But yeah, just like how all of that exists on Pandora,

750
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:04,359
like they're all one being. I think they get there,

751
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,960
but it just it could have been dialed up a

752
00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,480
little bit more of having like a really big impactful shift.

753
00:32:10,519 --> 00:32:13,240
I think it just it seems like they're going for there,

754
00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:15,440
but it didn't hit like the perfect trajectory for what

755
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,240
I would have wanted. That might have for me would

756
00:32:18,279 --> 00:32:21,200
have made it like a perfect a movie. So so

757
00:32:21,559 --> 00:32:23,279
maybe it's spoilers that I don't think it is a

758
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:26,960
perfect movie because there is stuff like that, but yeah,

759
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:28,799
just just the fact that he is that jar head.

760
00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:31,160
He is working with Quorich I think is his name,

761
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,640
the Colonel the Jujubi. And I think that fits at least. Again,

762
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:37,359
like it doesn't make me really like the character at

763
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:38,920
that point in time in the movie, because he is

764
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:42,559
just totally fucking over the Novey and like being again

765
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:44,920
being disrespectful just the science team and like they've worked

766
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:46,640
so hard to get there, and he's just he just

767
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,400
happened to be that guy that won the lottery sort

768
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,200
of to be able to like just become an yeah,

769
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:54,960
an Avatar user. And I think that fits at least

770
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,559
for the way that the character was written.

771
00:32:58,319 --> 00:33:01,039
Speaker 3: I think part of it for me is what Travis

772
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,400
said were the writing is just very strange in this

773
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:09,279
movie at times outside of the dubro eas stuff. Like

774
00:33:09,319 --> 00:33:11,559
I wrote this line down when he's talking about his

775
00:33:11,599 --> 00:33:13,640
brother at the beginning and he says that a guy

776
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,039
with his a guy with a gun into his journey

777
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:18,759
for the paper in his wallet. Is like how he

778
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,839
describes that he like you know, got killed by whatever,

779
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,039
some guy on the street. It's like that is just

780
00:33:24,079 --> 00:33:28,160
such a strange way to like have that line of

781
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:31,119
dialogue portrayed there, and that happened all the time where

782
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:34,279
I was just like puzzled at the word choice. It

783
00:33:34,319 --> 00:33:37,519
was almost as if like James Cameron wrote these. I

784
00:33:37,799 --> 00:33:40,480
assume he's a writer too, not just directory.

785
00:33:41,359 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: I think he had someone else with him too, want it.

786
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 3: But yeah, I just feel like at times it's like

787
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:49,839
they wrote a movie and then they just took out

788
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:52,200
a theosaurus and put in like synonyms for like.

789
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: Half the words.

790
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,039
Speaker 3: But yeah, it doesn't feel like those things weren't done

791
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:59,640
very purposefully, and then the characters having to say it

792
00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:02,599
just doesn't come across well. So I don't know, It's

793
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,240
it's hard for me to pinpoint exactly what that is,

794
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,280
but there there is something about just the dialogue that

795
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:11,639
it feels extra strange to me and to me for him,

796
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,800
he's a character that has a lot of dialogue. Therefore

797
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,559
he has a lot of that happened to him.

798
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: To me, it feels like they wanted him to kind

799
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:20,119
of be the best of both worlds, where.

800
00:34:20,039 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, we want him be a vet, we want to

801
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,360
be like curricle and said like a jar hen and

802
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,320
stuff like that, But we don't want him to be dumb,

803
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:27,360
you know, like we don't want to do that, so

804
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,559
we're gonna give him like he's well educated or there's

805
00:34:29,599 --> 00:34:32,280
like similar things to his brother that he get, you know, Oh,

806
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,320
this is why he's like this. But it's yeah, there's

807
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480
just even way, like I guess that's where same thing

808
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:41,039
to it when he's being aggressive. It's just even the

809
00:34:41,159 --> 00:34:43,880
kind of lack of emotion that he has. I just

810
00:34:44,119 --> 00:34:45,800
I can never get on board because it's like is

811
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,360
he aggressive or does he just kind of not know?

812
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,880
Like he'll kind of snap back at Sengorney Weaver a

813
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,480
few times, and I know that's what they're trying to

814
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,440
go for, but it sometimes just almost comes off as

815
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,719
like he doesn't know if he's doing the wrong thing.

816
00:34:56,760 --> 00:35:00,360
And yeah, I like the setup of a okay, you

817
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:01,239
had a twin brother.

818
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: This is the only way we can do it. You know.

819
00:35:03,519 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 5: It's a free ride and they're agatt they're offering his

820
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,559
like he's back and they're offering like sixty years and

821
00:35:07,599 --> 00:35:07,840
this that.

822
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,320
Speaker 1: So I like the initial setup. But Taylor, are you

823
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:13,599
on Jake? Oh?

824
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 4: I love him.

825
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,559
Speaker 6: I know Sam Wellington like just as an actor. Clash

826
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:19,639
of Titans rather Titans man alledged.

827
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:23,079
Speaker 4: That was a good one there. Oh my god, I've

828
00:35:23,159 --> 00:35:31,519
seen that too. Oh yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, definitely.

829
00:35:36,199 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 6: But in general, with with his performance here, I I

830
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:43,719
think I I would kind of reciprocate how you kind

831
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,400
of put a Kirkle in there where he's just this

832
00:35:46,039 --> 00:35:47,320
baseline grunt coming in.

833
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 4: He's just he's an ass.

834
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 6: He's disrespecting the way of like their culture, everything like that.

835
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,519
And I like it because he is a distinct good representation.

836
00:35:57,639 --> 00:36:00,679
I think a majority of people just in general being

837
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:05,559
thrown into this situation like it's it's just he's.

838
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 4: He's portraying a bit.

839
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 6: I don't mean there's no offense, but a basic human

840
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,599
being that would probably just be this, you know, is

841
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:16,559
brought up in this mechanical, rigid society full of like

842
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,400
metal and buildings and everything like that with technology, and

843
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,119
so here he is thrown into this world with all

844
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:23,880
this bullshit to this point. And this is the majority

845
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,880
of people, the reaction, how they interpret it. So I

846
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,800
think it's very fitting and I think that it's it's

847
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,599
for me, it's enjoyable to see Sam's transition into this

848
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:39,079
character that starts to empty everything from this metallic world

849
00:36:39,079 --> 00:36:41,800
and this technology filled world and just kind of transition

850
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,920
into this character that is still very human but is

851
00:36:45,039 --> 00:36:47,880
understanding this navi's perspective and point of life. And for me,

852
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,480
I think Sam really does a good job of delivering

853
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,480
that because even when you see it in his video logues,

854
00:36:51,519 --> 00:36:54,119
he's just kind of transitioning that. And I like that

855
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:57,119
videologue too, where we finally get him conveying like, you know,

856
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,400
the Navy, they're never gonna move, like they're just they're

857
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,960
gonna stay. There's no negotiation or anything like that. But

858
00:37:02,599 --> 00:37:05,599
feeling that weight of him admitting to this and saying it.

859
00:37:05,679 --> 00:37:09,239
I really I like that because he's he's really changed

860
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:11,760
at that point, and other other moments too with just

861
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,239
his character. I think you're right, Travis. There was some

862
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,159
moments though with the emotion conveying in his human form

863
00:37:17,199 --> 00:37:20,079
it's kind of like it's a little questionable, but once

864
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,719
he like he's in that CGI navvy form, the emotion's

865
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,599
really there. I mean, he's hissing at fucking ranger Rick

866
00:37:25,679 --> 00:37:28,360
and everything like that, you know, being called out side.

867
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 1: Why is he doing that?

868
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,679
Speaker 4: Why is he he's getting into it?

869
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 7: You know?

870
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 4: When you case play, you really just start to feel

871
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:34,800
like you're that character.

872
00:37:34,960 --> 00:37:39,199
Speaker 5: So yeah, it feels like a little culture appropriation the novel.

873
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,920
It's just weird, Like I just don't I know, he's

874
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,400
been there for a while, but I just don't buy

875
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,639
when he hisses at him because it always stands up me.

876
00:37:45,639 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: He's like, I just I just don't buy he would

877
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:48,800
hiss them.

878
00:37:49,199 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 5: And I get it, he's I guess fully accepted of

879
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,559
being one. But it just just feels kind of odd.

880
00:37:53,559 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 1: And that's where it just comes back again, where Okay,

881
00:37:56,039 --> 00:37:56,880
the setup is that.

882
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,519
Speaker 5: They're trying to get unattainium Oh my god on a table.

883
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's just that's the stuff where it's just like,

884
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:08,920
why just call it something else, please? Whatever? Cool, that's funny. Uh.

885
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 5: And then so they their plan is that they're going

886
00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:15,239
to learn about the NAVI stuff like that and eventually

887
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,480
either negotiate, trick them, or kill them to take their

888
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:20,400
land and stuff like that. But the Navy don't have

889
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,119
anything to do with that, and I think for me,

890
00:38:22,159 --> 00:38:25,360
it's just what's strange from the Navi's point of view

891
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:27,320
because they can't, like, I know, people go, oh, well,

892
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,039
they're just they haven't seen some of the tech before,

893
00:38:29,119 --> 00:38:31,559
and they're you know, they keep themselves. I get that,

894
00:38:31,599 --> 00:38:33,480
but they're very clearly.

895
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:35,559
Speaker 1: Understand like we see that there's a smart race.

896
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:38,079
Speaker 5: I can do things like take down these fucking people

897
00:38:38,119 --> 00:38:40,239
that have all these guns and equipment everything.

898
00:38:40,559 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: And I guess it's just strange, like they never.

899
00:38:45,559 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 5: I wanted more of why they just cool their like

900
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,360
air walkers possessing their bodies and walking around right, Like,

901
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,599
why is it not that they can just the the

902
00:38:53,679 --> 00:38:55,559
air walkers or skywalker?

903
00:38:55,599 --> 00:38:56,599
Speaker 1: What the fuck did they call them?

904
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 2: Were the air walkersky people?

905
00:38:58,599 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: Sky people? Right? For this?

906
00:39:00,079 --> 00:39:01,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? They have another word.

907
00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,679
Speaker 7: Actually for like the ones in the Avatar bodies. Do

908
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:04,480
you remember what it was?

909
00:39:04,599 --> 00:39:06,519
Speaker 1: Are they dream walkers or something like that?

910
00:39:06,639 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right, dream walkers.

911
00:39:08,679 --> 00:39:11,400
Speaker 5: Sucking I knew, But no, Like, I guess it's just weird,

912
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,199
like if it's like, oh, we're here for like just

913
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,679
like to for scientists reasons, why wouldn't they just be

914
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,480
in their masks stuff like that point never really makes

915
00:39:20,519 --> 00:39:22,599
sense to me from all the way around, of like

916
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,480
it would have made more sense if they kept that

917
00:39:24,559 --> 00:39:27,239
hush hush and for some reason like these but then

918
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,199
even then that causes problems is like, hey, who are

919
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,519
these other Novi people where we've seen them? So for me,

920
00:39:31,599 --> 00:39:33,679
it's a it's a weird jump to I like the

921
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,119
concept of all we got these ANNs bodies, but for

922
00:39:36,199 --> 00:39:37,880
the aliens and Nave just to.

923
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: Be so cool and so fine that not really unexplaination.

924
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 5: I've never been able to get over that hump of

925
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,920
well they should have fucking saw this, like it just

926
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,760
like it, like when they're so shocked that the people

927
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,800
are here to take their stuff and kill them. I

928
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:52,760
know they probably have them interaction, but you literally have

929
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,480
these people possessing the body of your race like they're

930
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,320
already doing like weird stuff.

931
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: So I don't know.

932
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,079
Speaker 5: There's just the the science and everything I tried to

933
00:40:01,079 --> 00:40:02,800
put in the back of my mind and ignore and

934
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,199
like the concept of how they get it going, because

935
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,320
I don't think it works for me, the actual concept

936
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,679
of like, okay, we just need to make them an

937
00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:10,360
alien body so you can go on this adventure.

938
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 1: Okay cool.

939
00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:14,679
Speaker 6: I don't know if they fully clued into the possession

940
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
kind of thing, because that was that was clued into

941
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,039
after when like Jake passed out and then they like

942
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:21,719
freaked out, like, oh my god, it's like a demon

943
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,199
possessing this body. Right, So I like we all know

944
00:40:24,519 --> 00:40:26,119
or not we all know, but they all know in

945
00:40:26,159 --> 00:40:30,159
the movie sense, there's other clans and there's other different

946
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,039
nav out there, different tribes. So I imagine they probably

947
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:36,119
just thought that these Navi were associayed and just affiliated

948
00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:36,840
with the humans.

949
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,559
Speaker 4: And I took it too. When they say dream Walker,

950
00:40:40,039 --> 00:40:41,119
they like knew.

951
00:40:41,519 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 1: I thought early on they knew that these people are

952
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:44,920
with the humans and stuff like.

953
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,119
Speaker 6: Well, I didn't think they I don't think that they

954
00:40:47,159 --> 00:40:49,159
took it as they were the humans. I think they

955
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:52,480
suspected that they were just a clan with the humans.

956
00:40:52,559 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 7: And it's like they had like Grace's like a school

957
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,760
that's teaching them like English, and like I would imagine

958
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,559
human concepts or whatnot. But that's something that's I feel

959
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:05,039
like isn't fully explained even in the movie of just.

960
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:08,599
Speaker 4: In the movie scenes they have, they have a little

961
00:41:08,599 --> 00:41:08,960
bit more.

962
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:12,079
Speaker 5: That's sketchy DVD at all.

963
00:41:12,159 --> 00:41:13,679
Speaker 1: That doesn't count for this movie though.

964
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,199
Speaker 6: When they say dream Walker, I just kind of affiliated

965
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,960
that too, like oh, like you're you're you're losing it,

966
00:41:22,039 --> 00:41:24,360
like your cuckoo, because like why you follow in these

967
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,639
dreams like with these humans, because they're idiots, Like their

968
00:41:27,119 --> 00:41:30,239
cups are already full, right, like they're there.

969
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's something walking in the I didn't.

970
00:41:33,159 --> 00:41:35,519
Speaker 6: I didn't take it back, not until like the possession thing,

971
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:38,119
because like when when he passes out, that's when it

972
00:41:38,119 --> 00:41:40,159
clicks in, like, oh my god, look he's just a

973
00:41:40,199 --> 00:41:41,719
demon an empty body.

974
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: Right, I'm doing.

975
00:41:44,039 --> 00:41:46,280
Speaker 7: Sorry, something that they could explain a little bit more,

976
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:47,800
I think, oh definitely.

977
00:41:48,199 --> 00:41:52,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

978
00:41:51,039 --> 00:41:53,119
Speaker 2: Uh.

979
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:56,559
Speaker 7: And then for like I guess, like the humans motivation

980
00:41:56,679 --> 00:41:59,119
to have the avatar bodies is just like a way

981
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:02,440
for them to interact the Navy, because there's not ever

982
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:05,480
like a human really until like wartime goes out where

983
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,360
they're like they're on like the same field of each other,

984
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:08,679
right because like the novie.

985
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,599
Speaker 2: You're just so much bigger, stronger.

986
00:42:11,079 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 7: Fuck their bows are going through like reinforced glass or whatever,

987
00:42:15,119 --> 00:42:16,880
you know, you know when it comes to wartime or whatnot.

988
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:21,679
So yeah, just for research purposes. It's it's interesting that

989
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,639
they didn't talk about like the possibility of it like

990
00:42:24,679 --> 00:42:27,880
a military matter. I guess just because it's so expensive

991
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,159
they can only have a certain amount of Avatars. But yeah,

992
00:42:30,199 --> 00:42:32,960
like again, that's that's stuff that while the movie's on,

993
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:34,920
like I'm not even really thinking about. It's just like,

994
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:37,719
oh man, look at those colorful lights on screen, like

995
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,559
the actual logistics on how it all works.

996
00:42:40,599 --> 00:42:42,280
Speaker 2: I think I'm just in it for the ride there.

997
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 7: But it's a good question to pose, you know, like

998
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,239
the full the way that the Navvy treat the dream

999
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:50,440
Walkers and their relation to the humans and just how

1000
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:51,920
fucked up that concept really is.

1001
00:42:52,599 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I guess we don't really get like another clan.

1002
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,519
We only see that one group in this right.

1003
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 7: Until like wartime when they're the what's his name, Talc

1004
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:04,400
do something.

1005
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,760
Speaker 4: The giant alien bird thing, but like.

1006
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,320
Speaker 7: His term because he gets called something when he is

1007
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,440
the rider of it, right like Niti's grandfather was the previous.

1008
00:43:17,039 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 6: One, right, you know, you know what, Travis, he knows.

1009
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:24,039
Speaker 5: All the what I was just reading about, how I

1010
00:43:24,079 --> 00:43:26,480
was right about Avatar and Jake and everything, all the

1011
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:28,039
threads they see is yeah, they know right away for

1012
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:31,360
all these like they have five fingers and they pick

1013
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:33,280
up on that where the Navy don't they have four.

1014
00:43:34,559 --> 00:43:37,000
She makes a comment right away about him not being

1015
00:43:37,079 --> 00:43:38,519
like the actual nave.

1016
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,119
Speaker 1: So yeah, they know right away.

1017
00:43:40,199 --> 00:43:42,760
Speaker 5: So it makes no sense what we're talking about grandfathers

1018
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:43,639
and riding stuff.

1019
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 4: I don't know who what is the name of someone

1020
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:48,280
that rides to McDowell.

1021
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: If I don't fucking know that.

1022
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: Knows this ship? What is this?

1023
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 5: I know about story, not about and whoever rides it.

1024
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,320
I don't care about that. It's just like it is

1025
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:01,519
such a random.

1026
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 6: I think, Uh, Mactow is the name of the person.

1027
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:09,239
A great leonoptrix is what.

1028
00:44:09,159 --> 00:44:13,800
Speaker 4: They they call the Mactow'. That's what they're called.

1029
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:16,599
Speaker 2: Ru McDowell. There you go. I knew it the whole way.

1030
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:17,599
I don't do it all.

1031
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,639
Speaker 6: I will just to kind of piggyback before we transition

1032
00:44:20,679 --> 00:44:24,639
away from Mactowe. That's probably my favorite scene in the movie.

1033
00:44:25,039 --> 00:44:27,280
And I get so amped and in the scene, like

1034
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,400
I get off the couch, I'm standing up like full

1035
00:44:29,519 --> 00:44:31,920
like power stants, like ready to go, because it was.

1036
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:35,320
Speaker 4: When Sam Worthington's narrating, like.

1037
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 6: We first we rode out to the horse planes, then

1038
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,320
we went out to the coast of the flyers, and

1039
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,480
you just get these quick transitions. Everyone's like joining like

1040
00:44:42,559 --> 00:44:45,159
the whole war front. And then he's just standing there

1041
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,760
in this pan shot when he's got his war paint

1042
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,480
on and you see like all of the thousands of

1043
00:44:50,519 --> 00:44:53,360
like the the reinforcements pouring in. I'm like, oh, and

1044
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:54,480
that's score kicks in.

1045
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 3: Oh.

1046
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 6: That was one of the first tracks that I think

1047
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,400
I tried, like get it downloading on my MP three

1048
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:12,880
of some Yeah. Yeah, but fuck, it's such a good

1049
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,440
fucking score and scene.

1050
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,159
Speaker 4: I love that.

1051
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 6: And then it just quick cuts to just Ranger Rick

1052
00:45:17,559 --> 00:45:20,519
like they will overrun our perimeter and all that ship.

1053
00:45:20,679 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 4: Like it's so good.

1054
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 3: I think Ranger Rick is like maybe my favorite character

1055
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,800
just because of how weird he is. Like I we

1056
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:32,599
memed on that one scene, but I just found like

1057
00:45:32,679 --> 00:45:36,719
every scene, every like line of dialogue he had was

1058
00:45:37,519 --> 00:45:40,039
juicy in some way. Now, I don't know. I didn't

1059
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:42,679
find him to be a very compelling villain. He was

1060
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,920
more just like as an oddball. I liked him, like

1061
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,199
from the mean potential of it. But I don't know, what,

1062
00:45:49,199 --> 00:45:51,079
what do you guys think about that? Because to me,

1063
00:45:51,119 --> 00:45:53,079
that's like one of the weakest things here is that

1064
00:45:54,039 --> 00:45:56,079
Like that, I think that's where the story is just

1065
00:45:56,159 --> 00:46:00,119
so one note is that the bad guys are just

1066
00:46:00,159 --> 00:46:02,519
I don't know, there's no like nuance to their plan

1067
00:46:02,639 --> 00:46:03,519
or anything like that.

1068
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:07,440
Speaker 5: Well, and I'm with you where I'm of two minds

1069
00:46:07,599 --> 00:46:11,679
where I enjoy watching his performance, but I don't know

1070
00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:14,039
if this performance is right for this We know that

1071
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:15,840
this movie to me is great, but just the fact

1072
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:18,280
that I feel like they're trying to make it very

1073
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:21,840
dramatic and very serious, and I feel that he breaks

1074
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,199
through that, like especially near the end when they're trying

1075
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,639
to be even more so like Navvy or dying and

1076
00:46:26,679 --> 00:46:29,000
stuff like that, and you'll they'll just cut to him

1077
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,280
and he'll just be like first rounds on me, boys,

1078
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,599
and it's just like it it takes me. You can

1079
00:46:33,679 --> 00:46:35,880
do that type of character, but I think he hams

1080
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,159
it up so much that it takes me out of it.

1081
00:46:38,199 --> 00:46:39,840
Where I enjoy watching him, but I don't think it

1082
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,800
helps the movie. And yeah, he's just the character. The

1083
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,559
second you meet him, you know what route the story

1084
00:46:45,639 --> 00:46:47,480
is gonna go. Like I even tell them to, and

1085
00:46:47,519 --> 00:46:50,239
I'm like, Okay, they're just gonna turn like you. There's

1086
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,119
no there's no sign of they're not gonna try and

1087
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:56,679
just kill the Navy and take the Unattainium or on

1088
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,679
whatever it's called. They're like, that's the route we're gonna go,

1089
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,119
and he's just generic guy number one. And even Sam

1090
00:47:03,199 --> 00:47:05,280
Rlington he's with him for a little like the first

1091
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,760
actor together, he promised on his legs are showing the map,

1092
00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:10,599
and then Sam Worthington is one thing wrong and from

1093
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:12,920
that point on he's like, I'm fucking watching this guy

1094
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,000
and blah blah blah, and he watches him doesn't do

1095
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,159
the great job because he watched it to like like

1096
00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,119
he lets a lot of shit happen and stuff like that.

1097
00:47:19,199 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I like Stephen Lang. I like that

1098
00:47:21,800 --> 00:47:22,360
he commits.

1099
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 5: I'm not a fan that he's gonna be back in

1100
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,440
the sequel just playing the same character.

1101
00:47:26,519 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: But NAVI, I'm not looking for I'm not.

1102
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:34,199
Speaker 5: Looking That's some of the most like lame as casting ever,

1103
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:36,199
Like we're gonna do it again, but he's just gonna

1104
00:47:36,199 --> 00:47:39,119
be like like that's he's just a navvy person.

1105
00:47:39,199 --> 00:47:40,679
Speaker 1: This time is like okay, cool.

1106
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:42,960
Speaker 5: So I think that's gonna wear on me even more

1107
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,639
the second time. But I think Steve Lange does a

1108
00:47:44,639 --> 00:47:45,480
good job. He's fun.

1109
00:47:46,519 --> 00:47:50,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I really like his character in this and I think,

1110
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,760
like when I really stew on it, like, yes, I

1111
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:54,880
completely agree like Dylan's but like he's not like a

1112
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:59,639
really uh like I don't like a top notch villain

1113
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:01,559
in the sense of like, oh, I can see where

1114
00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:02,239
he's coming.

1115
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: From, and like I kind of.

1116
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 7: No, definitely not like the memeable moments for sure, And

1117
00:48:09,199 --> 00:48:11,159
I like try to said like he's hamming it up,

1118
00:48:11,199 --> 00:48:13,760
and I love all that stuff, Like I it's so entertaining,

1119
00:48:14,119 --> 00:48:17,320
and I think everything kind of up until he like

1120
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:20,159
really like like until the Nave are like in their

1121
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,320
like inner sanctum thing like the like basically the main

1122
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:26,760
tree whatever it's called. I didn't prep my notes for

1123
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,800
all the Nave terms, unfortunately, but yeah, the essentially like

1124
00:48:31,639 --> 00:48:33,800
what was called, Yeah is that home tree.

1125
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,079
Speaker 2: No, that's the one that blows up. Yeah, that's what

1126
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:39,639
it was like, Yeah, the tree souls. So when they're

1127
00:48:39,639 --> 00:48:40,000
at the tree.

1128
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: Is like they say that the Winter's Soldier home tree

1129
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:45,599
freight car.

1130
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 5: Down pond like once once once the Nave retreat there,

1131
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,719
and he's like, we're gonna murder all of them.

1132
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:55,039
Speaker 7: It's just like, Okay, this is a little bit too much.

1133
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,280
But I think everything leading up to up until that point,

1134
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:00,519
I think it's completely fine because he's representing like a

1135
00:49:00,599 --> 00:49:03,119
kernel of like a private military group. And I've seen

1136
00:49:03,199 --> 00:49:04,840
so many types of movies like this or even just

1137
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:08,239
video games of like the pmc's the private military group,

1138
00:49:08,519 --> 00:49:11,280
those soldiers that just want to keep like making money

1139
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:13,360
and be soldiers, like these asshole type characters.

1140
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: They're always kind of like written that.

1141
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,119
Speaker 7: Same way, and I think him being like the kernel

1142
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:21,360
of all those types of characters, it completely fits for again,

1143
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:25,639
because Pandora is so dangerous. This guy is the not

1144
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,639
scared side of it. Like this is like kind of

1145
00:49:27,679 --> 00:49:31,679
his home, just you know, like this Vietnam like general

1146
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:33,760
who's like that never wants to leave, like the Vietnam

1147
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:36,039
like jungle, Like he like this is his territory and

1148
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,159
he lives for this, you know his scar. I kind

1149
00:49:39,159 --> 00:49:40,719
of like it, you know, it reminds me of what's

1150
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,960
out there, Like like all of those lines and every

1151
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,039
single line that he drops, it seems like it's just

1152
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:48,400
one of those like macho colonel type lines, and it

1153
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,519
makes me giggle because some of them are just so

1154
00:49:50,599 --> 00:49:52,719
ridiculous and like it doesn't really make sense why he'd

1155
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:54,880
be saying that specific line in the moment, but he does,

1156
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,960
and I think it works because that's just it's not

1157
00:49:58,079 --> 00:49:59,880
like he is one way and the flips that way.

1158
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:02,880
He is pretty much the same throughout the entire movie

1159
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,119
and until that snap when he goes even further and

1160
00:50:05,199 --> 00:50:07,320
he like like he's just sending his men to die

1161
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,239
at that point, and there's no real reason for it,

1162
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,480
Like I guess he's preemptive for if they're gonna like

1163
00:50:12,519 --> 00:50:14,480
counter against the humans, which I guess would have happened.

1164
00:50:14,519 --> 00:50:16,119
So maybe he did make the right decision there, but

1165
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,760
it was just a little bit extreme and it really

1166
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:24,079
was like Selfridge, the uh the like the whatever his

1167
00:50:24,159 --> 00:50:26,480
title would be, like the CEO. I guess, like he's

1168
00:50:26,559 --> 00:50:28,639
just he's like out of the movie essentially at that point,

1169
00:50:28,639 --> 00:50:32,400
because it's just like Korich's show, like the Colonel Ranger Rick.

1170
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,280
Speaker 2: So I think that twist, like I like it for.

1171
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:38,079
Speaker 7: What the movie is, but for the character stuff, it's

1172
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:39,840
just you I think you gotta look past it because

1173
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,360
it could really be jarring maybe if you if you

1174
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:43,800
stew on that a little bit too much, like the

1175
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:44,840
switching of those characters.

1176
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 3: But to go into that meme scene that we watched

1177
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:50,519
on the twenty four hour stream and then it couldn't

1178
00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:50,960
shut up.

1179
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,519
Speaker 5: The first ten minutes too. I was pleasantly surprised about that.

1180
00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:54,639
I was ready super quick.

1181
00:50:54,679 --> 00:50:57,119
Speaker 3: They go right into it, but we memed on that

1182
00:50:57,159 --> 00:51:02,519
line and change that line from eyes different juju bes

1183
00:51:02,119 --> 00:51:05,239
to ship your ass for jujib of course of the

1184
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,400
logical transition. But I didn't really think about this until

1185
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:11,480
I was watching it. But juju be is, like I've

1186
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,559
always said that as jujubs, and that's what I said

1187
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,400
in the intro, and that's my nickname, is am I

1188
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,239
the only because I feel like my whole family and

1189
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,480
everyone I've ever heard mentioned that snack has always said jujubs.

1190
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,079
Speaker 7: I completely agree, and now I will always say juju

1191
00:51:26,159 --> 00:51:27,719
be is because of this movie and this meme, I

1192
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:28,239
think that we can.

1193
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 3: But is that actually correct though? Or is that like, okay,

1194
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:33,519
this character would say that kind of thing.

1195
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,559
Speaker 2: I get, Yeah, maybe that's like their American like way

1196
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:36,960
of saying it.

1197
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,280
Speaker 7: I don't know, i'ven't I haven't asked American to say that.

1198
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 3: Travis, what about you?

1199
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:42,119
Speaker 2: Jujubs?

1200
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,760
Speaker 1: I don't know what a what is a jubjube?

1201
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:49,159
Speaker 3: It's like a little yeah, yeah, look it up you.

1202
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,119
I'm sure you've seen it, Taylor, how about you?

1203
00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:51,519
Speaker 1: Are you?

1204
00:51:52,039 --> 00:51:54,559
Speaker 4: I've been known to say like jujus.

1205
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,280
Speaker 3: Okay, so I thought I was the crazy one.

1206
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 6: Okay when I heard juju be I thought he was

1207
00:52:00,519 --> 00:52:03,199
talking about like an alien thing on Pandora.

1208
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:06,880
Speaker 3: He's chewing up the eye and he's like spinning it

1209
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:07,960
out like a little juju.

1210
00:52:08,079 --> 00:52:10,599
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, yeah, I saw those.

1211
00:52:10,639 --> 00:52:12,639
Speaker 5: I don't think I've ever no one ever heard them

1212
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:15,159
as grab your juju be'sor like, I think they're just

1213
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,519
like gum me like, I don't think.

1214
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 1: They ever like yeah, like whatever they there. I don't

1215
00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:22,280
think I've ever heard anyone refer them as juju.

1216
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 5: Like I only knew juju bebs because it's a jujus.

1217
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 3: I guess I think Kirkland's theory is maybe the best

1218
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,199
where maybe that's just like an American thing. I feel

1219
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:37,800
like that's one of those random things that would happen

1220
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:42,039
in translation. How do you say it jujubs, ju.

1221
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:47,199
Speaker 1: Jujus, juju bes. I guess you could say it either way,

1222
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,400
right though, like.

1223
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,280
Speaker 3: For juju really could, but there's like there's got to

1224
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,639
be a correct way, and that's that's what I'm That's

1225
00:52:54,639 --> 00:52:57,360
what I'm digging at right now. And that's where like

1226
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,960
I'm thinking about when it was being made. If like

1227
00:53:01,039 --> 00:53:03,360
I'm just thinking when they're sitting down to film the scene,

1228
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,480
I guess they do tabor or whatever it was. I'm

1229
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:08,960
curious if that actor like said said it one way

1230
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,519
or the other and was like corrected, or if they're

1231
00:53:11,559 --> 00:53:14,119
just like, oh, let's just go with it, or like,

1232
00:53:14,159 --> 00:53:16,440
I don't know. That's such a small little detail, but

1233
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,119
I'm so curious if it would came up at all

1234
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:19,400
when they were making it wouldn't be.

1235
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 6: The first time like other other actors have had this happen.

1236
00:53:22,559 --> 00:53:25,639
There's kind of like a joke about it, where, oh,

1237
00:53:25,639 --> 00:53:26,079
here we go.

1238
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:28,519
Speaker 1: Can you tell me if you can say here?

1239
00:53:28,639 --> 00:53:32,599
Speaker 2: American pronunciation though in the top right? So there bees? Okay,

1240
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,079
now go to the Canadian.

1241
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:42,599
Speaker 1: Bees ju Ju bees. That's just that I can't change it.

1242
00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:43,639
Where do you want me to change it?

1243
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 2: Well?

1244
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 3: There, that's just so interesting, Yeah, we get it. I

1245
00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:01,039
don't know, Taylork. We're all all team jujub so it's

1246
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,079
interesting and maybe we've all been wrong on.

1247
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 5: It's like the way an endgame when Tony and his

1248
00:54:06,119 --> 00:54:09,400
daughter get like a fruit pop and that's like a popsicle.

1249
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 1: I was, I was, my body couldn't move. I'm like,

1250
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:15,679
what's a juju?

1251
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 3: Like in that moment you think back to Avatar, You're like, wait,

1252
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:22,639
he ate his eyes for.

1253
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:25,039
Speaker 1: The bedroom, going to eat yours like juju.

1254
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 5: Be's morgan watching end Game and he's just like your

1255
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,480
because like a fruit popp or a snack pop and

1256
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:33,840
it's a popsicle.

1257
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: But they and America call that.

1258
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:38,760
Speaker 5: I was like, even as somebody that grew up in

1259
00:54:38,840 --> 00:54:41,519
America in the summers, never heard anyone call like.

1260
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: A snack popp or fruit pop. So yeah, there's just things.

1261
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,519
Speaker 5: So I think he's saying it like for an American,

1262
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:47,920
he's saying it right.

1263
00:54:48,119 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 3: According to Google, Yeah, that's.

1264
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: Do we need to be.

1265
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:55,360
Speaker 2: Like it shows the mouth motion to.

1266
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,519
Speaker 3: I mean all those lines we've mab up Pandora R.

1267
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 8: Like.

1268
00:55:03,079 --> 00:55:06,159
Speaker 3: I just love the way he says these words.

1269
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:06,639
Speaker 7: I love.

1270
00:55:07,639 --> 00:55:09,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, when Sigourney, I love when she's like, what

1271
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,159
are you gonna shoot me? He's like if you like that,

1272
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,159
and it's just it's like.

1273
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: That's what it's like.

1274
00:55:15,079 --> 00:55:18,840
Speaker 5: It's a super s they are talking about genociding these people,

1275
00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:21,480
and he's just like he's quipping like Tony Stark or

1276
00:55:21,519 --> 00:55:23,199
You're like I can do that if I like that,

1277
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:23,840
And I'm like.

1278
00:55:24,039 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 1: No, like why is no one? Like yeah, like why

1279
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,880
is yeah? Got something jujubes in the back like that.

1280
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:34,519
Speaker 5: It's just like I think there's like a moment where

1281
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:36,960
he can be that character, and I think there should

1282
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:38,440
have been a ship, like at the end when he's

1283
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,440
fighting jakeson like even then when he's saying the betrayalsal race,

1284
00:55:41,639 --> 00:55:44,639
probably Taylor's kind of ruined that for me. But even then,

1285
00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:47,360
I think what happens is with Stephen Lang. There's an

1286
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,639
expression called playing for people on the back and it's

1287
00:55:49,639 --> 00:55:52,840
something you do in Broadway on a play when you're

1288
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:55,840
very lad and very over the top because you want everyone,

1289
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,480
even the back road, to hear you, right, And I

1290
00:55:58,519 --> 00:56:00,480
feel like he's doing that the whole movie, where I

1291
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:03,039
felt like he should have brought it down, especially I

1292
00:56:03,039 --> 00:56:05,199
think once they kind of figured out okay, Jake is

1293
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,320
not with us, it should have turned. But even the

1294
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,760
end fight, like I like his demeanor, but even though

1295
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:12,840
he's like yeah, but Treyo, he's like he's very very

1296
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,880
action like b raate bad guy movie villain, which somebodle

1297
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,519
like that they like it because he stands out, and

1298
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:20,480
that's fair because maybe we just got a born villain.

1299
00:56:20,519 --> 00:56:22,679
But at the same time, I wish they'd just gotten

1300
00:56:22,719 --> 00:56:24,719
to reel back like a little bit, because I think

1301
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:26,840
Stephen Lang like go watch him, like, don't brieve.

1302
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 1: He can do that.

1303
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:30,000
Speaker 5: He's a very talented actor. I think Cameron was just like, Oh,

1304
00:56:30,039 --> 00:56:32,000
I fucking love what you're doing here, Like, keep keep

1305
00:56:32,039 --> 00:56:34,000
doing keep being the guy from Small Soldiers, you know,

1306
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:34,960
keep doing that and.

1307
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:35,519
Speaker 1: Stuff like that.

1308
00:56:35,679 --> 00:56:38,400
Speaker 5: So Taylor, what do you actually will get to?

1309
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,199
Speaker 2: This is the guy?

1310
00:56:42,039 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: There's another movie that's just probably ripping off too.

1311
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 5: It's the same thing, right native people that they're like aliens.

1312
00:56:47,079 --> 00:56:51,199
Speaker 1: And stuff like that. One day we will for Avatar three.

1313
00:56:51,559 --> 00:56:53,119
Speaker 5: Uh, let's say that break and we'll find out what

1314
00:56:53,119 --> 00:56:55,360
Taylor thought about the colonels will be right back.

1315
00:56:56,760 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: And we're back. I don't know if he's a colonel

1316
00:56:58,440 --> 00:56:58,920
whatever he.

1317
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,519
Speaker 2: Is, he is a colonel.

1318
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: He's dead now. But what do you think with Stephen Lank?

1319
00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 6: I thought he was great in this I I the Moon.

1320
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:10,079
We get him and then he's doing his little like session,

1321
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:11,280
Pep talk to the crew.

1322
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,960
Speaker 2: I liked it and this movie too.

1323
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, he's fucking Rep's just like now gravity will get soft,

1324
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:24,199
you get soft, Pandora will shoot you out.

1325
00:57:26,119 --> 00:57:28,719
Speaker 1: This was after this movie.

1326
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 5: Everybody and their mother was fancasting him as Cable for

1327
00:57:32,039 --> 00:57:34,440
X Men, Like everybody, this is the.

1328
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: Guy, this is who's gonna be continue.

1329
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: I love Stephen in this movie. He is a good one.

1330
00:57:48,360 --> 00:57:50,639
Speaker 3: He's actually excited for him to come back.

1331
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:54,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's playing a v now, so I.

1332
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 7: Know, but I hope he's the exactly thing exact.

1333
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 2: They will make it soft. He's just like lifting weights,

1334
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:01,639
bitch President.

1335
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 5: If you see him, he's like playing like a jughead

1336
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:06,840
at NAV because he's like has a gun and he's like,

1337
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,760
I think he will be the same. It just does Nav.

1338
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,400
It's just I don't know, it's gonna be fucking weird.

1339
00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,519
They got Sgourney. We were playing a fourteen year old

1340
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:14,119
I don't know what.

1341
00:58:14,679 --> 00:58:18,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's funny because like I we talked about that

1342
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:21,960
in like a newscast or something forgetting of you know,

1343
00:58:22,039 --> 00:58:24,400
what she had done and like what happens with her

1344
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:25,280
characters and all that.

1345
00:58:25,639 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 6: But mm hmm, just with Stephen Lang's character. I think

1346
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,519
from start to finish, he's just like, you make a

1347
00:58:31,519 --> 00:58:33,960
good point. He is definitely speaking like to the back audience.

1348
00:58:34,039 --> 00:58:37,400
He's just super rowdy and just over the top. But

1349
00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,480
I like this character a lot. I think he just

1350
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,440
you have this iconic character in so many other films,

1351
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:45,679
like notably Samuel Jackson and King Kong or like the

1352
00:58:45,679 --> 00:58:48,440
war's not over, like for him, he wants to, you know,

1353
00:58:49,239 --> 00:58:53,079
kill this kaiju and keep the keep the war going.

1354
00:58:53,119 --> 00:58:57,199
And that's that's the thing here with Ranger Rick. He's

1355
00:58:57,199 --> 00:58:59,400
here and he's he doesn't give a shit about the utantanium.

1356
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,239
He doesn't give any of that. He's just the head

1357
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,480
security officer, and he just he really wants to go

1358
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:06,360
to war and kill these these navvy.

1359
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:07,840
Speaker 4: But I think it's.

1360
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:09,639
Speaker 6: Interesting too because you you made a good point here,

1361
00:59:09,719 --> 00:59:12,880
kirkln When you have all these soldiers that used to

1362
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,119
fight for a country, fight for their families, their purpose,

1363
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,079
all that stuff, but out here they're just hired guns

1364
00:59:17,079 --> 00:59:20,559
doing it for a paycheck, and it diminishes their compassion.

1365
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:25,679
And particularly with Ranger Rick, he's so much more desensitized

1366
00:59:25,719 --> 00:59:27,679
to this kind of thing, and he's been here for

1367
00:59:27,719 --> 00:59:30,960
so long that he just he doesn't give a shit anymore.

1368
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,360
He wants to just ouse them and kill them because

1369
00:59:34,159 --> 00:59:36,880
for whatever his true motives are, I don't know. It's

1370
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,840
definitely not the overall like humanity. I think it's just

1371
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,920
himself because he doesn't he's not very compassionate, even towards

1372
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:47,719
like his soldiers specifically, definitely.

1373
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:51,199
Speaker 2: Not them around he did.

1374
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, there are other moments too where I feel like

1375
00:59:53,159 --> 00:59:55,000
some of them die and he just kicks them out

1376
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:55,320
of the way.

1377
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 4: Stuff like that. I will say, like, I love I

1378
00:59:58,360 --> 00:59:59,079
love that scene.

1379
00:59:59,119 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 6: When I can't remember what he's I think he says

1380
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:04,840
like clear, Yeah, I think he yells clear. When the

1381
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,840
team's making their escape out of the hangarbay, he's like clear,

1382
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:13,760
he fucking drop kicks this metal mask, that's what. Yeah, Yeah,

1383
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:14,960
he drop kicks.

1384
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,719
Speaker 2: That guy's got. I don't know how long this guy

1385
01:00:17,719 --> 01:00:19,159
can hold his breath.

1386
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:24,119
Speaker 5: Boom boom boom, just fucking going to town after that.

1387
01:00:24,199 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: At one point too, the plane gets a rocket its

1388
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,480
wing and it's spinning. He has to he's still holding

1389
01:00:29,519 --> 01:00:29,840
his breath.

1390
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,039
Speaker 5: He has to get down that echo suit and he's

1391
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:35,840
on fire and he's just like while holding his breath

1392
01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:36,679
and then he gets the thing.

1393
01:00:36,719 --> 01:00:39,559
Speaker 6: He's like, yeah, he's just a badass. Oh, I fucking

1394
01:00:39,639 --> 01:00:40,039
love it.

1395
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:40,719
Speaker 1: Oh.

1396
01:00:42,039 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 2: At one moment duo when he when he kicks off

1397
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:44,920
on the door shoots.

1398
01:00:44,719 --> 01:00:48,119
Speaker 7: Shoots around and like buddy Private Jones or something comes

1399
01:00:48,159 --> 01:00:50,840
up to him, He's like Colonel mask. He just I

1400
01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:52,880
don't know when I like caught this details, probably like

1401
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,239
the second viewing, and for some reason, every time I

1402
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,199
know it's happening, and it just it makes me chuckle.

1403
01:00:57,239 --> 01:00:59,400
He like looks at the guy and he like nods

1404
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:03,400
like acceptance. He's like, oh, yeah, good job, like takes the.

1405
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:09,199
Speaker 4: Mass and put it on. I don't know why.

1406
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,719
Speaker 2: It's just that little detail of him like yeah, good

1407
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:13,880
one and then he like puts it on. Fucking gets me.

1408
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,960
Just those little moments with with Ranger Rick. Fuck, it's good.

1409
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:18,920
Speaker 7: And I feel like if it wasn't Stephen Lang like

1410
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:21,199
it would just be I don't know, forgettable type character.

1411
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:24,719
Speaker 2: But he brought the meat and potatoes to this performance.

1412
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,519
Speaker 5: Who do we want to talk about next year? What

1413
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:31,039
do we want to talk about next year?

1414
01:01:31,159 --> 01:01:34,719
Speaker 3: Well, I'll quickly throw this out that I think one thing,

1415
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:36,760
you know, ra Ranger Rick he's fun and all, but

1416
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,239
I feel like there needed to be a couple other

1417
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:43,000
pieces for that puzzle to make that that part of

1418
01:01:43,039 --> 01:01:45,239
storyline compelling for me, because he got like that main

1419
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:51,880
scientist dude who's like playing Rubisi. There you go, Giovanni Rubcci. Apparently,

1420
01:01:52,719 --> 01:01:56,199
I thought very random. Note when he's talking, she's a

1421
01:01:56,239 --> 01:01:59,440
Sigourney Weaver's character, and he like he calls out I

1422
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:01,199
think he's calling know Jake Sullen. He's like, well, at

1423
01:02:01,239 --> 01:02:03,239
least he's not a dental high genius. I was like,

1424
01:02:03,639 --> 01:02:07,519
there was what a strange like, what a strange profession

1425
01:02:07,559 --> 01:02:10,360
to call out as one that he just seems to

1426
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,440
hate and thinks is weak or something like that. But

1427
01:02:13,519 --> 01:02:16,400
I don't know. I I that guy survives, right, so

1428
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,719
he might be Uh, he might be coming back. I

1429
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,000
don't know, but I don't know if I have. He's

1430
01:02:22,119 --> 01:02:24,400
kind of a strange addition. I don't feel like he

1431
01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:26,960
really gets a good moment or anything like that.

1432
01:02:27,679 --> 01:02:30,159
Speaker 5: I really don't like I'll lump him into a group

1433
01:02:30,199 --> 01:02:31,920
because I have the same thing to say about them

1434
01:02:31,920 --> 01:02:33,800
as I do him. I don't have much good things

1435
01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:37,000
to say about him. Uh, Jake's on again off again

1436
01:02:37,079 --> 01:02:40,360
friend that also becomes a navvy Michelle rock Reegez. But yeah,

1437
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:49,840
with him with the main guy, Like, like I said, Givanni, I.

1438
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,679
Speaker 1: I feel like there. I'm sure there was.

1439
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,039
Speaker 5: It just feels like there's no script and he's They're

1440
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:53,639
just like, hey, just say something kind of like this,

1441
01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:55,599
you know, like say something that like that and stuff

1442
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:56,920
like that, and like, okay, I can do that because

1443
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:00,840
he doesn't have that many lines, and I it's very

1444
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:02,920
strange of okay, he doesn't want to kill these Navi,

1445
01:03:03,079 --> 01:03:05,079
but then he's kind of fine with it eventually. But

1446
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,360
then after he kind of gives the go ahead to well,

1447
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:09,960
we could kill him, he gives Jacob an hour, which

1448
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,320
he definitely does not give him an.

1449
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,719
Speaker 1: Hour unless that like navi's time is very.

1450
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 5: Like literally Jake's in his speech and then they're like

1451
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:17,719
crashing down on the woods.

1452
01:03:17,719 --> 01:03:19,400
Speaker 1: It's like, well, what happened to the hour and stuff

1453
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:20,400
like that, and just.

1454
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,440
Speaker 7: Well, no, he didn't slow down the guns, right, didn't

1455
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,320
He just send in Jake like he has an hour

1456
01:03:25,159 --> 01:03:26,880
to do with the body, and then they took him

1457
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,199
out to do what just.

1458
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Like why keep him an hour?

1459
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:32,400
Speaker 7: Basically warn them to take the children out of the

1460
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,440
tree because they're like basically banking on like his morals there, right,

1461
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:36,119
But they give.

1462
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,159
Speaker 5: Him an hour to talk, like it's gonna take a

1463
01:03:38,159 --> 01:03:39,639
lot to get these people out of here. So it

1464
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:42,239
just feels weird to be like why put that time

1465
01:03:42,599 --> 01:03:44,719
and say I'll give you an hour and then twelve

1466
01:03:44,719 --> 01:03:45,440
minutes later.

1467
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 2: I'm not giving an hour killing those kids.

1468
01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:49,760
Speaker 5: And that's where this character like he's just there to

1469
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,239
guide certain things based off the ship, Like he's in

1470
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,280
a CGI room tons these people, well they're all in

1471
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,159
fucking CGS room, But like it feels like a lot

1472
01:03:57,159 --> 01:03:59,440
in that ship, and probably some that ship might be practical,

1473
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,840
but something about it just feels off everybody in there.

1474
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,679
But he's fine again with this generic like you know

1475
01:04:05,719 --> 01:04:08,239
that the's golfing at the beginning, and it's just like, okay.

1476
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,679
Speaker 1: What is he is he? Is he a complete piece

1477
01:04:09,719 --> 01:04:10,519
of shit? Or is he not?

1478
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:12,519
Speaker 5: And they don't really you know, I kind of wish

1479
01:04:12,519 --> 01:04:14,360
the Nomy just killed all the people too. When they

1480
01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:16,000
send them back and he's with them, they should have

1481
01:04:16,039 --> 01:04:17,519
just kept them there and just killed them. Becau they're

1482
01:04:17,519 --> 01:04:19,960
just gonna come right back and bad things are gonna happen, so.

1483
01:04:20,519 --> 01:04:23,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, everybody else, Roriguez is there just to I

1484
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,079
don't know, be a good guy soldier.

1485
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 5: And yeah, I hate, absolutely hate the friend character guy

1486
01:04:28,320 --> 01:04:30,480
because he just switches back and forth so much to

1487
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,280
fucking hating Jake Sally to like want to be his breast,

1488
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,559
and there's no story, there's no so just take that out.

1489
01:04:36,679 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: Just make them be friendly the whole movie, that's all.

1490
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:38,840
I need a.

1491
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:42,320
Speaker 7: Friendly story behind it though, because he well, yeah, they

1492
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,400
try and explain how like this's coming around slowly, and

1493
01:04:45,440 --> 01:04:47,599
then like again, I feel like that is splicing a

1494
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:49,159
bunch of like time skips. I don't think the time

1495
01:04:49,199 --> 01:04:51,039
skips are that long, but still like a couple of

1496
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:53,639
weeks of Jake, just like working with Materiri.

1497
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,239
Speaker 5: It's their God, you would have read the books, you

1498
01:04:56,239 --> 01:04:58,760
would have known everything about them, but he didn't. And

1499
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,760
he walks away and it's just like this dude just

1500
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:02,400
got here, Like this dude.

1501
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:04,519
Speaker 2: The problem for us is that he feels like he

1502
01:05:04,559 --> 01:05:05,159
doesn't deserve it.

1503
01:05:05,199 --> 01:05:07,519
Speaker 5: I feel like, no, no, no, he doesn't act that way

1504
01:05:07,559 --> 01:05:10,239
at all. For the first act, He's completely nice to Jake.

1505
01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:14,079
Speaker 6: That's because there was no pre existing like reason to

1506
01:05:14,079 --> 01:05:15,880
be jealous. This guy just showed up and he got

1507
01:05:15,880 --> 01:05:17,559
into the program. He's like, yeah, you're just gonna be there.

1508
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:20,239
I'm the one who gets to be out there experiencing Pandora.

1509
01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:22,000
You don't give a shit about it, that's fine, But

1510
01:05:23,159 --> 01:05:25,000
you know he was, but he was just there as

1511
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,079
a gun like a soldier.

1512
01:05:27,159 --> 01:05:27,320
Speaker 1: Right.

1513
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,440
Speaker 6: So when this moment came in, when he immediately got

1514
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,360
to be immersed with the people, was going through all

1515
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,360
these crazy experiences, it was like the spotlight for the

1516
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,760
whole science like division.

1517
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:36,079
Speaker 4: That's when he got jealous.

1518
01:05:36,239 --> 01:05:38,519
Speaker 1: Like the reason they do that is because Jake Sully

1519
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:40,440
like has tendencies of being a warrior.

1520
01:05:40,599 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 5: So no matter what I feel like this scientist guy,

1521
01:05:43,679 --> 01:05:47,039
if he's getting mad the former veteran for showing off

1522
01:05:47,079 --> 01:05:48,880
him being a warrior, Like, fuck this guy, like I

1523
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,039
don't know the science, it's like that never was gonna

1524
01:05:51,039 --> 01:05:53,559
be you. Because that's why they adapt him into the culture.

1525
01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,440
It says he can be like the novey, So that

1526
01:05:56,519 --> 01:05:58,800
was never gonna be him. And there's just he's just

1527
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:02,280
playing the character some Disney Channel bully of just like

1528
01:06:02,559 --> 01:06:04,039
you know, if you picked up a book and he

1529
01:06:04,079 --> 01:06:06,519
walks and then he's just good right away. In one

1530
01:06:06,639 --> 01:06:09,280
act he switches from being a complete asshole to his

1531
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,039
best butt again and he tells him about it's awful writing.

1532
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,960
Speaker 6: I mean that's like he I don't think he expects

1533
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:18,800
to like get in there by being the soldier. I

1534
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:20,840
think he just wanted to be in there period. And

1535
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,320
that's like jealousy is a fickle thing and that works.

1536
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: What does it give us? What is it ever? What

1537
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:26,840
is the resolution?

1538
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:29,039
Speaker 5: If it was something like he was the run the

1539
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:31,559
one that rats out Jake Solid to the army people,

1540
01:06:31,599 --> 01:06:33,119
They're like, okay, you paid that off.

1541
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:34,079
Speaker 1: There is a reason.

1542
01:06:34,119 --> 01:06:36,239
Speaker 5: But they just make him go back and forth between

1543
01:06:36,519 --> 01:06:37,960
nice to pissed off the nice again.

1544
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 6: We get some little little drama intension in there just

1545
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,599
to kind of keep there's no tension there.

1546
01:06:44,639 --> 01:06:47,199
Speaker 1: No one gives a ship about this guy. What's that

1547
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:48,000
character's name.

1548
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 7: To whoa.

1549
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 10: Get revenue old and the cult, Yeah, to be jealous

1550
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:06,639
and then the act dorm is gonna walk out be

1551
01:07:06,719 --> 01:07:10,440
like I heard you forgot my name? Yeah, Like and

1552
01:07:10,519 --> 01:07:13,440
again my only really like defense on Like the switching

1553
01:07:13,639 --> 01:07:15,920
is like there is some time there, like I was

1554
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:17,760
mentioning the time skips it is a few weeks, but

1555
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:19,519
I feel like I'm more on Travis's side of that,

1556
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:22,280
where when I rewatched this, like that twist of him

1557
01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,119
being like, I'm not gonna say like I I would

1558
01:07:25,199 --> 01:07:27,559
understand that he's kind of frustrated that Jake is just

1559
01:07:27,599 --> 01:07:30,039
like like blowing this off as some ridiculous thing and

1560
01:07:30,079 --> 01:07:32,400
if this is norms like life's work, and he's just

1561
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:34,119
kind of like seeing it stupid but like all the

1562
01:07:34,119 --> 01:07:36,960
spotlights on him. Yeah, I understand the jealousy there, but

1563
01:07:37,119 --> 01:07:40,519
just I think the switch that Travis mentioned where one

1564
01:07:40,519 --> 01:07:41,719
way and then flipped round.

1565
01:07:41,599 --> 01:07:44,760
Speaker 1: Other adults like what the fuck I'd be sacrificed.

1566
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:47,039
Speaker 6: He's pretty nerdy, Yeah, he does have many social skills,

1567
01:07:47,119 --> 01:07:48,039
so like.

1568
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,000
Speaker 1: Nerdy people could be nerdy this. He's acting like a

1569
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:50,480
five year.

1570
01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,079
Speaker 4: Old kids another planet. There's no laws out here, it's different.

1571
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:55,039
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1572
01:07:55,039 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 7: And I will say though, when he's an avatar form

1573
01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,559
and he's wearing his hat, I feel like that is exactly,

1574
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:02,440
like almost exactly what Taylor's avatar would probably look like,

1575
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:04,440
and like the hat would be different, but it would

1576
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,239
be like your hat that you that you always wear.

1577
01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 4: It would be my little Englishman beret.

1578
01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly what I picture your your avatar looking like.

1579
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:17,119
Speaker 3: So he was in Dodgeball. That's what I was the

1580
01:08:17,159 --> 01:08:19,439
whole time I was watching, like what have I seen

1581
01:08:19,479 --> 01:08:22,520
this guy in? But yeah, of course iconic performance in Dodgeball.

1582
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:26,039
Speaker 1: I know him from that and The Haughty and the Naughty.

1583
01:08:26,079 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 5: It's a movie with Paris Hilton's one of the movie

1584
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:29,520
that people say is one of the worst movies of

1585
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:30,600
all time, and it is.

1586
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:33,119
Speaker 4: It's pretty bad Christmas retro?

1587
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:35,359
Speaker 1: Is it Christmas?

1588
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: I don't know, just throw it in there.

1589
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: I hope that's not good. Yeah, what do you guys?

1590
01:08:41,960 --> 01:08:44,800
You guys can talk about Genevanibci there.

1591
01:08:45,039 --> 01:08:47,760
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, And I feel like I kind of forgot

1592
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:50,760
about it because he's just kind of forgettable and like again,

1593
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:53,920
like he just fits that like CEO types position where

1594
01:08:53,920 --> 01:08:57,800
he's more of the representing the shareholders. Like he drops

1595
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,439
that line where it's like it's cool all these but

1596
01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:01,920
at the end of the day, like we need our

1597
01:09:02,239 --> 01:09:04,199
you know, our fiscal year or whatever to be like

1598
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,560
in the green or whatever the terminology.

1599
01:09:06,039 --> 01:09:06,560
Speaker 2: Is that he used.

1600
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 7: So I get having a character like that, I just

1601
01:09:09,319 --> 01:09:11,119
I don't know, I feel like it could have been

1602
01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,239
dove deeper for sure, especially when I'm like sitting back

1603
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,399
and analyzing it and not just being distracted by the

1604
01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:21,880
beautiful cinematics on screen. So it in like the fact

1605
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,880
that they like dug a tiny little like Divot to

1606
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:27,399
try and explain that he's got depth on like, oh no,

1607
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,439
his morals are there, like he gives him an hour,

1608
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:32,039
you know, and he's he's going through all this effort

1609
01:09:32,199 --> 01:09:36,399
of trying to evacuate them from Home Tree to get

1610
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:39,239
to this, you know, their mineral unobtainium that they're trying

1611
01:09:39,239 --> 01:09:41,960
to get to. I think it makes sense to have

1612
01:09:42,039 --> 01:09:44,319
a character like that in this movie, but unfortunately, it

1613
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:47,520
just it just falls short. And I, like I mentioned

1614
01:09:47,520 --> 01:09:49,439
like it's I kind of have a con with just

1615
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,680
how easily the colonel just takes over. But like in

1616
01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,439
the moment, I'm not like, where the hell is this

1617
01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:56,439
guy because he's just so forgettable, Like he just he

1618
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,000
just seems like so spineless and like just doesn't really

1619
01:09:59,039 --> 01:09:59,199
have it.

1620
01:09:59,319 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, people forget or people don't forget. That's the line.

1621
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 7: Uh So yeah, I think unfortunately, like I like that

1622
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:11,640
actor at least I like that actor at least mostly

1623
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,159
just from friends. I think he's just a funny reoccurring character.

1624
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:17,560
But so yeah, it's cool to see him in there,

1625
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,560
But it's not something that I'm highlighting from this movie

1626
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:22,439
by any means. If anything, it's it's one of the

1627
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:23,319
lower parts for sure.

1628
01:10:25,119 --> 01:10:25,640
Speaker 2: Fair enough.

1629
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:31,359
Speaker 3: I have a question for Taylor Kirkland here, just not

1630
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,520
like outside of plot and all that stuff, just like

1631
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:38,680
Pandora lore or like the culture of the nausey and stuff.

1632
01:10:39,640 --> 01:10:41,039
I just want to hear, what is it that you

1633
01:10:41,119 --> 01:10:42,760
love about this world?

1634
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,520
Speaker 7: I like their explanation how it's just like one living

1635
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:51,479
organism sort of thing, and like how like the balance

1636
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,960
of like the deity also just being like their earth essentially,

1637
01:10:56,000 --> 01:10:58,600
and like everything's just tied together. I think the play

1638
01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,520
too on like the Tree of Souls on how like

1639
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:03,079
no one's really gone again. This is kind of getting

1640
01:11:03,119 --> 01:11:05,760
like if your own like spiritual religious beliefs or whatnot.

1641
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,600
Like it's just an interesting idea of like I don't know,

1642
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:10,039
just just the fact that like.

1643
01:11:10,199 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 2: People aren't ever really gone.

1644
01:11:12,039 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 7: And the explanation, especially when Nikiri is I think she's

1645
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,279
explaining it to Jake Sully.

1646
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 2: I'm always gonna call him that now. I like that,

1647
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,720
but like how.

1648
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:24,199
Speaker 7: Everyone is kind of like borrowed energy and at the

1649
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:26,000
end of the day, like like you're kind of required

1650
01:11:26,039 --> 01:11:27,359
to give it back, and that's just kind of a

1651
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,560
nice explanation for your own life, like we're we're all

1652
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:31,960
given this and then if this is.

1653
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 2: Like an interesting idea of just like giving.

1654
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:34,479
Speaker 7: It back in the end of the day like a

1655
01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:36,920
good It's almost like explaining to a child like what

1656
01:11:37,039 --> 01:11:39,520
death is. And I think that execution was really was

1657
01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:43,600
handled really well. And also just like everything tying again,

1658
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:47,279
like just it all being like one organism and Ni

1659
01:11:47,359 --> 01:11:51,039
Kiri like being so like heartbroken when she has to

1660
01:11:51,119 --> 01:11:53,520
like save Jake suley On like these wild dogs are

1661
01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:55,800
attacking him because it's just like this is sadness, Like

1662
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:57,840
this shouldn't have happened. The reason why this happened is

1663
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:01,079
because you this dream walker stumbled into the woods and

1664
01:12:01,079 --> 01:12:04,000
like completely like all of that stuff again, just like

1665
01:12:04,039 --> 01:12:06,720
these people being so attached to their their planet and

1666
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:08,960
their world like I I I totally get sucked in

1667
01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,359
on all that stuff. So for me that that that's

1668
01:12:11,399 --> 01:12:14,720
really what it is. And I think, uh, again, all

1669
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:16,800
the designs of like the creatures and stuff like that,

1670
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,079
and like the tie that the the novey have like

1671
01:12:20,079 --> 01:12:22,479
their their braid and then you like attach it essentially

1672
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,319
to your horse or your mount or whatnot, and like

1673
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:27,439
you just become one where your thoughts are kind of

1674
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,439
moving them. Like all of that stuff for me works

1675
01:12:29,479 --> 01:12:30,239
really really well.

1676
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,119
Speaker 2: So that's uh, that's.

1677
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,680
Speaker 1: It, Kirk Kirklin. Who's Zoe's on that plane?

1678
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 2: Nikiri?

1679
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:38,520
Speaker 1: Who is it?

1680
01:12:39,119 --> 01:12:39,560
Speaker 2: Nikiri?

1681
01:12:40,199 --> 01:12:44,840
Speaker 5: It's the tear with the T T Yeah, back in

1682
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:50,560
the Yeah, here's your car back Taylor. Yeah, for all

1683
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:51,199
of five minutes.

1684
01:12:52,039 --> 01:12:53,520
Speaker 3: Okay, now you quizz me.

1685
01:12:54,079 --> 01:12:59,560
Speaker 2: I didn't say Nigary. There's no way that a gi.

1686
01:13:00,079 --> 01:13:02,359
Speaker 5: Okay, here, I'll walk it back. I didn't hear a T.

1687
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:04,159
That's that was my thing. I was like, I didn't

1688
01:13:04,159 --> 01:13:04,720
hear it.

1689
01:13:05,359 --> 01:13:06,079
Speaker 2: I did not say a T.

1690
01:13:06,319 --> 01:13:08,359
Speaker 1: So that was we we play.

1691
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:14,720
Speaker 3: Oh God, I'm gonna go with Wendy. She plays Wendy.

1692
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 5: Grace Augustine God. Okay, can you guys we're all Can.

1693
01:13:20,439 --> 01:13:23,680
Speaker 1: You guys give me Stephen Lang's full name, Colonel what.

1694
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 2: I have it in front of me so I'm not

1695
01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:27,680
gonna cheat cancer?

1696
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:28,039
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1697
01:13:29,119 --> 01:13:32,239
Speaker 3: Like is like Richard, are we saying that's his first name? Richard?

1698
01:13:32,640 --> 01:13:34,880
Speaker 1: No, Rick. His first name is not Rick.

1699
01:13:35,000 --> 01:13:37,399
Speaker 6: That's a complete nickname. That's why I don't know his name,

1700
01:13:37,399 --> 01:13:38,000
because I've.

1701
01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:42,439
Speaker 5: Just it's funny, I asked us because Cameron.

1702
01:13:42,119 --> 01:13:44,079
Speaker 1: Was bitching about this. Today's like it doesn't matter. People

1703
01:13:44,119 --> 01:13:45,800
don't know the names of the character it's about. But

1704
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:46,399
because that's.

1705
01:13:46,319 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 5: Always well, because that's always a joke on Avatar is

1706
01:13:49,920 --> 01:13:51,680
like no one remembers the character's name.

1707
01:13:52,079 --> 01:13:54,840
Speaker 3: That is true. I understand that. I understand that.

1708
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, do you guys remember what Michelle is his name?

1709
01:13:57,560 --> 01:13:59,119
Because I don't think I've ever known her name.

1710
01:14:00,039 --> 01:14:01,840
Speaker 4: Truth, I just always know Sudria.

1711
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:08,600
Speaker 5: I'm sorry, that's just can go pretty Stephen, sorry, truly true,

1712
01:14:08,960 --> 01:14:10,920
Trudy check On.

1713
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:13,239
Speaker 2: It's like a Mexican name.

1714
01:14:13,239 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 1: And then Stephen Lang is Miles quart Ridge.

1715
01:14:17,039 --> 01:14:20,520
Speaker 6: I didn't know his name was Miles, but the hells

1716
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:22,479
like Miles All yeah.

1717
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 2: Miles, that sounds like, yeah, freak. Rick, I just took

1718
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:32,119
that no.

1719
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:38,800
Speaker 5: Zumer of world like this is a peace mission, right

1720
01:14:39,399 --> 01:14:40,920
of course, He's like.

1721
01:14:45,119 --> 01:14:48,840
Speaker 1: He's just so we're gonna say that. I'm like, oh, yes,

1722
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:57,680
stay on the nobby, save them all right, save fashion.

1723
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:05,199
Speaker 5: Mainly, I love like a prequel seed of them all meeting.

1724
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,399
Speaker 1: For this, and he's just sulowly dropping handside.

1725
01:15:07,119 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 5: No matter what, he's gonna kill, like, no matter what happens, like, oh,

1726
01:15:13,920 --> 01:15:16,760
they agreed to move the land and they're gonna give

1727
01:15:16,840 --> 01:15:17,199
us all that.

1728
01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:21,399
Speaker 1: Well, we gotta make sure. No, man, they're gone, they're gone. No,

1729
01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:25,880
they're never gone.

1730
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:30,319
Speaker 4: Just a response to Dult's earlier question.

1731
01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 6: So for me, one of the reasons, like I love

1732
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,720
just kind of the lore and the setup for Avatar

1733
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,000
and just Pandora is uh, the the the tone and

1734
01:15:43,039 --> 01:15:45,560
the usage are just their their braid connecting to everything

1735
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:47,640
in the world. I think that's just like a really good,

1736
01:15:47,760 --> 01:15:50,840
blatant kind of visualization for people just to kind of

1737
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:55,279
see how grounding works and just connecting to the environment.

1738
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:58,239
And I think that like if you if you look

1739
01:15:58,279 --> 01:16:01,399
into it, just walk around barefoot out here, like on

1740
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:04,640
I'm kid, you not walk around barefoot like it does.

1741
01:16:06,239 --> 01:16:07,359
Speaker 4: Relaxation.

1742
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 6: Just walk it out and treat like tree walking, forest walking,

1743
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:12,840
all that kind of stuff, like it has so many

1744
01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,239
like really nice health benefits. And I think that this

1745
01:16:15,399 --> 01:16:17,840
is just an aesthetic that they've pulled in and have

1746
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,359
tried to just create that visualization so that people can

1747
01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:24,279
kind of reciprocate with that and kind of connect with it.

1748
01:16:24,399 --> 01:16:26,119
And that's one of the reasons, Like I really like

1749
01:16:26,159 --> 01:16:28,800
it because I love just planting my feet out on

1750
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:31,119
the ground sometimes and it feels so good just to

1751
01:16:31,159 --> 01:16:33,800
relax and just feel it and just to kind of

1752
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,560
like take in that energy just just being put out

1753
01:16:36,600 --> 01:16:39,119
from just this grass growing up towards the sun. It

1754
01:16:39,159 --> 01:16:41,359
just feels great. So just kind of have that portrayed

1755
01:16:41,359 --> 01:16:44,319
in this film where everything is alive and everything is

1756
01:16:44,359 --> 01:16:47,039
just such a beautiful environment, especially at the night time

1757
01:16:47,119 --> 01:16:50,319
settings when he's walked around with his torch and it's

1758
01:16:50,399 --> 01:16:52,159
just trying to see where he's going, and once like

1759
01:16:52,199 --> 01:16:55,520
Materia puts the torch out, just how the planet just

1760
01:16:56,319 --> 01:16:59,520
lie like livens up and he's touching things and it's

1761
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,439
just the flo war is glowing where he steps.

1762
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,159
Speaker 4: I just love that world. It's just so beautiful.

1763
01:17:04,239 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 6: So I think it's just like I already said, it's

1764
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:12,760
just a great over exaggerate, emphasized visualization of our own planet.

1765
01:17:13,159 --> 01:17:17,319
Speaker 5: So I will say I love the everywhere they walk

1766
01:17:17,399 --> 01:17:18,159
and the light goes.

1767
01:17:18,199 --> 01:17:19,399
Speaker 1: I really like that effect.

1768
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,279
Speaker 4: Some clean waters. I'd love to harvest that water.

1769
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:25,279
Speaker 3: Have you heard the.

1770
01:17:27,399 --> 01:17:28,520
Speaker 4: Ship down?

1771
01:17:29,039 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 5: But now isn't there gonna be like a bunch of

1772
01:17:30,520 --> 01:17:33,159
dead nav in that water now polluting it.

1773
01:17:33,199 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 4: I'd be a little like salty too.

1774
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,079
Speaker 3: Oh No, it's all about the cycle that was talking about.

1775
01:17:37,119 --> 01:17:39,760
They're bought there, what is it? And you know you're coming?

1776
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 5: No, I meant like the ones they all fucking blew

1777
01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:47,039
up in the middle, like that battle, like they didn't

1778
01:17:47,039 --> 01:17:49,039
get a nice peaceful giving their energy back.

1779
01:17:49,119 --> 01:17:51,680
Speaker 3: They like, Oh, but they'll deteriorate into the water and

1780
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:54,680
their nutrients will create a new fish or something like that.

1781
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:56,520
Speaker 4: That's how it works, like in our water. That's true.

1782
01:17:56,720 --> 01:18:03,079
Speaker 1: You see that fish. Yeah, we're too.

1783
01:18:03,319 --> 01:18:10,479
Speaker 7: Next, Just like I guess to highlight like I really

1784
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,279
like just all of the moments that Jake Suley's like

1785
01:18:13,359 --> 01:18:18,039
doing his just lessons with Natiri and just yeah, like

1786
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:19,880
learning about all the culture. I kind of mentioned that

1787
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:23,600
on just showcasing like the lower side all of that attachment.

1788
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:26,399
But again like him actually like becoming a warrior and

1789
01:18:26,439 --> 01:18:29,319
when Natiri actually like finds him worthy enough to like

1790
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:34,279
go uh get his basically flying mount uh. Just it

1791
01:18:34,319 --> 01:18:37,079
was such a sweet sequence of Again, it's it's like

1792
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:38,760
how to train your Dragon moment.

1793
01:18:38,800 --> 01:18:41,560
Speaker 2: That's essentially what it was. And I love that movie.

1794
01:18:41,560 --> 01:18:44,119
Speaker 7: And again, just like the floating aisles that they're going

1795
01:18:44,359 --> 01:18:48,119
uh whatever they call it, the floating hills.

1796
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,199
Speaker 4: Of I would not want to climb that that ship, Like.

1797
01:18:50,199 --> 01:18:52,880
Speaker 2: No, no, I'm terrified. There's no way I'm doing that.

1798
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,119
Speaker 7: But again, the way that it was showcasing the film,

1799
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:57,600
I thought all that stuff was was really cool. And

1800
01:18:58,039 --> 01:18:59,880
even just when they're like going to the remote base

1801
01:19:01,079 --> 01:19:03,279
that that was a really cool sequence too. I just

1802
01:19:03,319 --> 01:19:07,439
think that type of land like it's so like fantasy esque,

1803
01:19:07,439 --> 01:19:09,239
and again I guess it is a sci fi movie,

1804
01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:13,359
but it just it seems really uh just really mystical.

1805
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:16,000
And they explained it of like the gravity is kind

1806
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:17,600
of what's causing it to do that, or like the

1807
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:23,199
flux whatever whatever that means, and the gravitational flux that's

1808
01:19:23,239 --> 01:19:24,600
making the islands float or whatnot.

1809
01:19:24,680 --> 01:19:27,319
Speaker 2: So all that stuff was was really really cool.

1810
01:19:27,399 --> 01:19:29,760
Speaker 7: And again it's just like tying into the visuals, like

1811
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:31,479
just how good this movie really looks.

1812
01:19:33,119 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 2: I think it like that's.

1813
01:19:34,720 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 7: Vast majority of this movie, and that's probably why I

1814
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,640
love it so much, is because of just how good

1815
01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,479
it looks and the adventure that I go on, and

1816
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:44,039
it's just so IMMERSI immerciful so to be following Jake

1817
01:19:44,079 --> 01:19:45,399
Suley along with that junior.

1818
01:19:45,399 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 2: I thought that was really cool. And I like their

1819
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:50,439
little hammicks that they sleep in, like the leaves.

1820
01:19:50,199 --> 01:19:53,560
Speaker 7: And again terrifying. I'm not a good person for Pandora.

1821
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:58,640
I don't come too soft, as the colonel would call me. Right, Yeah,

1822
01:19:58,640 --> 01:19:59,840
they'd ship me out for jujub.

1823
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:04,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, night one, it's over for correct, never gonna get

1824
01:20:04,079 --> 01:20:04,840
to the mating.

1825
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:05,279
Speaker 1: Tree or whatever.

1826
01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 5: You know, Taylor, did you when you got the extended edition?

1827
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:09,960
Did you just like fast forward that scene to see

1828
01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:11,159
the extended sex scene?

1829
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:11,720
Speaker 1: Oh?

1830
01:20:11,800 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, is that actually there is clapping?

1831
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 5: No, the only thing they show is like they're like

1832
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:23,760
little like connector things like really connect and then yeah,

1833
01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:25,760
the hair connects.

1834
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:27,279
Speaker 4: There's no other like penetration.

1835
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:30,399
Speaker 1: I love that. That's what they like. That's what.

1836
01:20:32,439 --> 01:20:33,880
Speaker 2: Those people that wanted to go to Pandora.

1837
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just love that. The like.

1838
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,760
Speaker 5: The HbA like decided that they needed to cut the

1839
01:20:42,239 --> 01:20:45,760
things intertwined, like that's too it's too much, it's too.

1840
01:20:45,720 --> 01:20:46,920
Speaker 2: Risk, too much like penetration.

1841
01:20:47,079 --> 01:20:49,399
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can't show down screen so you gotta cut

1842
01:20:49,399 --> 01:20:51,720
that for theatrical and then like all right, we'll do that,

1843
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:54,520
and then it got extended. But yeah, and that was

1844
01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:58,239
a b that's a strange, like like if you made

1845
01:20:58,399 --> 01:21:00,640
your for life. So I was always wondering of that,

1846
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:02,880
like if they would all survive. But Jake Sully wasn't

1847
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,640
with him, and she's still allowed to mate with someone else,

1848
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:07,439
because that doesn't sound like it's the way they pitch it.

1849
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't really.

1850
01:21:08,119 --> 01:21:10,399
Speaker 4: They might hang her if that happens, or hang him.

1851
01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,760
Speaker 2: Dead body like a pirate.

1852
01:21:15,159 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: That's your dead love, no more love for you.

1853
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:17,920
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1854
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1855
01:21:19,239 --> 01:21:21,920
Speaker 5: When they get together and they do the classic, she

1856
01:21:22,039 --> 01:21:23,880
finds out he was lying the whole time, and she

1857
01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:24,520
gets mad and.

1858
01:21:24,800 --> 01:21:27,000
Speaker 1: Great acting, but he is always all dead. I would imagine.

1859
01:21:27,039 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 5: I've seen the behind the scenes, so she's bringing it stuff.

1860
01:21:29,000 --> 01:21:33,560
But again, like I don't think anything. I kind of forgot.

1861
01:21:33,720 --> 01:21:35,600
I was kind of I kind of forgot that happened.

1862
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,319
But the whole time I was hoping it didn't happen

1863
01:21:37,439 --> 01:21:38,880
because I just didn't want them to go down that

1864
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:40,960
route because you just know they're gonna turn it around.

1865
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,079
Speaker 1: Everything it's gonna be okay.

1866
01:21:42,319 --> 01:21:46,520
Speaker 5: And she forgets yeah, she forgets like the dad dies.

1867
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,039
She sees him one more time, and then the next

1868
01:21:48,039 --> 01:21:49,520
time she sees him all for gone, Like.

1869
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 6: People forgive dang right, he's the fucking truth marked out.

1870
01:21:52,520 --> 01:21:55,079
You're gonna flying in on the big Uh.

1871
01:21:57,439 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, all he did was getna fucking bird. Doesn't mean

1872
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:01,439
he's not a death of.

1873
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,920
Speaker 4: Your fall big Bird. Not just any kran the great Optricks.

1874
01:22:05,119 --> 01:22:07,399
Speaker 1: That's some like weird religious stuff where it's like, yeah,

1875
01:22:07,720 --> 01:22:08,359
we're just gonna hit.

1876
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,199
Speaker 6: That's where they that's where they differentiate, right, because I mean,

1877
01:22:11,399 --> 01:22:13,000
like you said, they made for life. They don't worry

1878
01:22:13,039 --> 01:22:15,239
about divorces or anything like that. They're not gonna take

1879
01:22:15,279 --> 01:22:16,960
half of home tree or anything like that in the

1880
01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:17,880
divorce or something.

1881
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:18,880
Speaker 1: So wait for him.

1882
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:27,319
Speaker 7: And like, yeah, it just like that, like Travis was mentioned,

1883
01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:30,359
like like you kind of are anticipating like that twist happening,

1884
01:22:30,399 --> 01:22:32,279
because again, I've seen this move before and it's just

1885
01:22:32,359 --> 01:22:36,640
like her her decision to just like like again, like

1886
01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:39,399
I get why she's pissed off in that moment, and

1887
01:22:39,880 --> 01:22:42,159
I feel like I'm even more so on the side

1888
01:22:42,199 --> 01:22:44,800
of like I understand why she just like immediately goes

1889
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,159
back to his side. Not just because of the bird,

1890
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:50,000
but also because like they've actually connected so much to

1891
01:22:50,039 --> 01:22:52,520
this point, Like I feel like those feelings that he

1892
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,600
has for the planet and even just like her people

1893
01:22:55,720 --> 01:22:58,960
and her like, I feel like she understands that that

1894
01:22:59,039 --> 01:23:02,319
is genuine. Obviously feels majorly betrayed, But there just wasn't

1895
01:23:02,319 --> 01:23:04,720
a lot of moments to even explain the full situation there,

1896
01:23:05,600 --> 01:23:07,520
So I don't know, Maybe it's just I'm looking at

1897
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:11,159
it through through shiny lenses just because I like, like,

1898
01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:13,399
mostly it's always all I feel like she was the

1899
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,640
est here just throughout this entire movie. Her performance was

1900
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,119
so fantastic, and the character of the Tie was just

1901
01:23:19,159 --> 01:23:22,760
really interesting. I like when she's like hunting in the

1902
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,359
beginning and her like tracking methods, all of that stuff

1903
01:23:25,399 --> 01:23:27,439
around that character is really really fascinating to me. So

1904
01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,640
I'm very obviously looking forward to how she's just used

1905
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:33,800
in the next movie and if she's still kicking ass

1906
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:36,840
or whatnot, because I really don't know too much about

1907
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:39,600
like what the story is going into this, which which

1908
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,680
is exciting, you know, going into as blind as possible,

1909
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,079
But yeah, I don't know, Just I feel like I

1910
01:23:45,119 --> 01:23:49,199
would maybe defend her overall just decision to just maybe

1911
01:23:49,239 --> 01:23:52,039
flip flop, if if that's like a more negative way

1912
01:23:52,079 --> 01:23:53,960
of saying it, because it like it is pretty quick

1913
01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:56,920
when she just comes back around, but I don't know

1914
01:23:56,920 --> 01:23:59,119
it's entire straits at that moment. They just lost home trees,

1915
01:23:59,159 --> 01:24:01,399
she lost from her dad, just really wanted to just

1916
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,319
die with a grudge or like you know this person

1917
01:24:04,359 --> 01:24:07,199
like Taylor mentioned coming down on the uh the great

1918
01:24:07,600 --> 01:24:15,640
tri Sarah toops thing greatly op trics. Yeah, endpoint, Okay,

1919
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:16,319
let's tick her.

1920
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: I would presume our last ad break and then we'll

1921
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:20,199
be right back.

1922
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:23,399
Speaker 5: And we're back, so before we get int the phone,

1923
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:26,199
thoughts anything to shut up randomly, character.

1924
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,640
Speaker 1: Moments, scene anything like that.

1925
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:30,399
Speaker 5: I like singournion here enough, but she's just belaying a

1926
01:24:30,399 --> 01:24:33,239
scientist and that's good. She kind of just disappears the

1927
01:24:33,279 --> 01:24:35,600
second half movie, which is fine because it's more about

1928
01:24:35,680 --> 01:24:38,520
Jake like going around learning his stuff. But it's just

1929
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,119
I guess it's just weird. It's like because you have

1930
01:24:40,159 --> 01:24:41,720
sing Gorney weaver, it's like, oh, she's gonna mean this

1931
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:43,760
quite a bit, and she's like in it quite a bit,

1932
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,800
but just like around, like standing around like or her

1933
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,680
navies there and stuff like that. So it's gonna see

1934
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:51,279
good and glory, but I don't think she does anything.

1935
01:24:51,359 --> 01:24:54,159
So I love the cut when they like pull him

1936
01:24:54,159 --> 01:24:56,600
out after he doesn't give him an hour and they

1937
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,319
just shames Cameron has to do this slow motion like

1938
01:25:00,039 --> 01:25:02,119
the music popping off its emotion, but like it's that

1939
01:25:02,119 --> 01:25:03,119
type of emotion.

1940
01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:03,840
Speaker 1: I hate where it's not.

1941
01:25:04,359 --> 01:25:06,159
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, they filmed it fast and they've

1942
01:25:06,199 --> 01:25:08,239
done it that way, and they just had this like

1943
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:12,840
smash kind of you murder and it's just like it's

1944
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,600
really beating you over the head with like, yes, I

1945
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:18,399
understand what you're trying to portray here of what American

1946
01:25:18,399 --> 01:25:21,039
culture has done in the past, Like I understand, just

1947
01:25:21,079 --> 01:25:23,600
like oh, the kids and the guys you've an he's

1948
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:26,119
looking at and it's just like I get it.

1949
01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:29,159
Speaker 1: I understand. We don't need five minutes emotion scene. But yeah,

1950
01:25:29,279 --> 01:25:30,640
so Gorney was she was fine.

1951
01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:32,720
Speaker 4: You got those vocals hitting high there too.

1952
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:38,079
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, sounds like the end of the Lord of

1953
01:25:38,079 --> 01:25:38,920
the Rangers.

1954
01:25:39,039 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 2: Just gonna say.

1955
01:25:40,279 --> 01:25:51,640
Speaker 9: I see them last Kingdom here we come.

1956
01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: That's all I can hear now, And that's saying.

1957
01:25:54,880 --> 01:26:05,840
Speaker 1: Someone replacing Gorny we for ye, like yeah, and then

1958
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:10,159
take the murder and put that in Mario, You're a murder.

1959
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:14,840
Speaker 7: I had an interesting thought going into like while watch

1960
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,239
this movie, knowing that Sigourney Weaver is in the next one,

1961
01:26:17,279 --> 01:26:19,039
knowing that Stephen like isn't the next one basically is

1962
01:26:19,039 --> 01:26:21,760
the same character, and I think Sigourney Weaver is their child,

1963
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:26,399
right like and like again, as I'm watching the movie,

1964
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,279
just getting immersed in the lords and and all this stuff,

1965
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:32,000
just the connection of everyone, Like no one's really gone.

1966
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,359
It's just these like soul thing, the soul things, the

1967
01:26:35,399 --> 01:26:37,800
Tree of Souls and how like if you attach your

1968
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:40,359
your little cord to the tree, like you can actually

1969
01:26:40,439 --> 01:26:43,039
hear like the memories of the past or whatnot. And

1970
01:26:44,239 --> 01:26:47,359
like again you probably get a little little fancy religious

1971
01:26:47,439 --> 01:26:49,920
or whatnot here. It's just like if those souls were

1972
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:53,359
technically like still in that earth, could that not mean

1973
01:26:53,439 --> 01:26:55,960
that like if they're reborn and like if the energy's

1974
01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,000
taken from it, then you could use that you use

1975
01:26:58,039 --> 01:27:00,439
that as an argument for why Sigourney Weaver is still

1976
01:27:00,520 --> 01:27:04,840
like Sigourney child. And then that's why Stephen Lang is

1977
01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:05,880
basically back because.

1978
01:27:05,640 --> 01:27:06,760
Speaker 4: He wouldn't give it to Stephen.

1979
01:27:08,760 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 6: He would have came from Earth and he would have

1980
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,279
made the bodies there and then like air dropped in.

1981
01:27:12,319 --> 01:27:13,279
Speaker 4: I'm assuming and.

1982
01:27:13,279 --> 01:27:14,640
Speaker 1: I don't think they hooked him up to the tree

1983
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:15,199
as he passed.

1984
01:27:15,239 --> 01:27:18,359
Speaker 2: Is that what's happening? Like these are Earth avatars that

1985
01:27:18,359 --> 01:27:19,199
they're bringing.

1986
01:27:19,680 --> 01:27:20,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, like more of them?

1987
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, because like from just what I've taken from like

1988
01:27:23,119 --> 01:27:27,159
promo pictures. Is that because when you think about Jake Suley,

1989
01:27:27,439 --> 01:27:30,840
he was the first marine type avatar, right, and there

1990
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:32,920
weren't any others the rest of all scientists. So this

1991
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:34,880
time when they're coming back, they've got like a whole

1992
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,680
squadron's worth of avatars are marines.

1993
01:27:37,880 --> 01:27:40,800
Speaker 1: What are we gonna do when we see Stephen Lange's body.

1994
01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,520
Speaker 5: In avatar too? Like you are, we never gonna see

1995
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,119
as human form. He's just gonna be the Navy guy

1996
01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:46,399
we'll probably never see.

1997
01:27:47,000 --> 01:27:49,199
Speaker 6: I don't think we'll ever see his his human form.

1998
01:27:49,239 --> 01:27:51,079
I think it will just see them as avatars.

1999
01:27:51,439 --> 01:27:57,560
Speaker 1: Miles at a twin brother twice as deadly twice.

2000
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 5: Like he's the guy that killed to me, like Jake

2001
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:04,800
silly fucking around and I took it for the paper

2002
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:07,399
as well as are you saying that he was he's

2003
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:08,840
coming back as the same character.

2004
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,439
Speaker 3: I thought you meant like he just has a role

2005
01:28:10,439 --> 01:28:10,960
in the new one.

2006
01:28:11,199 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 4: He has a role in the new one playing an

2007
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:14,439
Avatar marine.

2008
01:28:14,680 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: But not but not related to Ranger Rick, not that

2009
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:18,640
we know of.

2010
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:22,279
Speaker 1: He's not playing Miles the character.

2011
01:28:22,359 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 5: But he is playing the archetype. He's playing the archetype

2012
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,720
Miles Forage whatever. He's playing the like I swear the

2013
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:29,640
Nobby pictures of you.

2014
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,479
Speaker 1: He has like the same haircut as like.

2015
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,680
Speaker 5: He's playing like the really scar other side the other side.

2016
01:28:35,720 --> 01:28:38,319
So but no, he's playing the same, like over the

2017
01:28:38,359 --> 01:28:39,640
top type of character.

2018
01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:41,159
Speaker 1: I think that's what's been shown.

2019
01:28:41,239 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 7: And see, I didn't even know that there was like

2020
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:45,439
honestly human type stuff in this movie from the promo

2021
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,359
that I saw at least, like I guess spoiler he's

2022
01:28:48,359 --> 01:28:51,760
got guns at five, it pays off, Yeah, once we

2023
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,239
get there after six, Yeah, James Cameron, I got plans

2024
01:28:55,239 --> 01:28:55,800
for six.

2025
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,920
Speaker 2: And Miles was alive the whole time he was living

2026
01:28:58,920 --> 01:28:59,880
in World Tree or what.

2027
01:29:00,039 --> 01:29:01,840
Speaker 1: That's what I thought was gonna happen. When Herd was

2028
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:02,239
coming back.

2029
01:29:02,279 --> 01:29:04,039
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, I guess I can get on board

2030
01:29:04,079 --> 01:29:06,920
that this motherfucker somehow survived and he's gonna come.

2031
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:09,439
Speaker 4: No way, are you kidding me?

2032
01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:14,079
Speaker 1: Come on, science fiction movie, you can do anything you want.

2033
01:29:14,479 --> 01:29:16,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess, but like no, first of all, no

2034
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:17,359
one's gonna put.

2035
01:29:18,319 --> 01:29:19,199
Speaker 1: This is a movie I would.

2036
01:29:19,239 --> 01:29:23,079
Speaker 5: They created, They created aliens of the same body, and

2037
01:29:23,079 --> 01:29:25,560
they can magically transport you. And then what can happen, Taylor,

2038
01:29:25,880 --> 01:29:27,279
is if you want to stay as an ave, you

2039
01:29:27,319 --> 01:29:29,680
go to a magic tree and you just do save

2040
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,000
file ads and transport that into the body.

2041
01:29:32,039 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: And you're telling me that you couldn't survive.

2042
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:36,359
Speaker 6: You think Miles has that kind of knowledge that No,

2043
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:38,920
he's with no mask.

2044
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:42,600
Speaker 5: Like I said, he survived, I didn't say he became

2045
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:43,359
a noviould.

2046
01:29:43,359 --> 01:29:45,399
Speaker 4: He survived his wounds though. You got the three arrows

2047
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:47,479
and they're dipped in a neurotalks and can't forget that.

2048
01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:48,479
That's the that's the kicker.

2049
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,479
Speaker 1: He's a tough motherfucker. Look at him doing those like sit.

2050
01:29:51,479 --> 01:29:54,359
Speaker 3: Up the neurotalks and just like puts you to sleep,

2051
01:29:54,399 --> 01:29:55,880
and it doesn't the whole time.

2052
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:57,760
Speaker 2: And he had his mouth closed, so he was holding

2053
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:58,119
on his.

2054
01:29:58,399 --> 01:29:59,800
Speaker 1: He held his breath for days.

2055
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:06,159
Speaker 6: You know, what if if someone if if he proves

2056
01:30:06,199 --> 01:30:09,159
to be the same character and comes back replaying Miles,

2057
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:09,760
that I will.

2058
01:30:09,880 --> 01:30:12,800
Speaker 4: I will bench press the same amount that he does and.

2059
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:16,199
Speaker 5: That scene your triceps.

2060
01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,159
Speaker 7: In the second, I will do it at the screen.

2061
01:30:18,159 --> 01:30:20,880
I'm bringing jujubs too for this movie. I'm getting right out.

2062
01:30:21,680 --> 01:30:23,880
I don't care if I have to sneak them in Landmark.

2063
01:30:23,920 --> 01:30:24,560
Try and stop me.

2064
01:30:24,680 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're called juju bees. By the way, what the fuck?

2065
01:30:28,159 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 6: Okay, when you're freaking out the audio bes again?

2066
01:30:33,079 --> 01:30:39,159
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't care. He's listening the same character. He's

2067
01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:40,840
built his mouth cornage.

2068
01:30:43,079 --> 01:30:45,479
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lift those fucking weights sometimes.

2069
01:30:46,199 --> 01:30:47,960
Speaker 1: Wow from the building.

2070
01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 5: Because here's the difference. Singourney Weaver is listed as a

2071
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,880
different character curious to the daughter. He is listed as

2072
01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:58,199
the same character, suck it, Taylor Field, suck it.

2073
01:30:58,239 --> 01:31:00,159
Speaker 3: But if another guy also.

2074
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:04,880
Speaker 5: His son, and he's like just a few years younger,

2075
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,399
but he still looks the exact same.

2076
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,359
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, no, weird man.

2077
01:31:10,039 --> 01:31:13,560
Speaker 3: I'm excited because he's gonna have maybe some more good lines.

2078
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:15,520
Speaker 5: Because what I think is gonna happen, because I don't

2079
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:18,399
they were doing a predictions episode is he did survive Taylor.

2080
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:20,199
They found him, they brought him back to Earth, and

2081
01:31:20,239 --> 01:31:22,239
that's why he can be sent in because I know

2082
01:31:22,319 --> 01:31:24,319
the land like no one else. I've been to hell

2083
01:31:24,359 --> 01:31:28,119
him back, like he's literally what he can be Jake Sully,

2084
01:31:28,199 --> 01:31:30,800
but he's not gonna fucking navvy and like turn a

2085
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:32,640
blind eye, which would be great if that happens in

2086
01:31:32,640 --> 01:31:34,960
this movie. Like the whole movie is like a remake

2087
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,840
of Avatar one, but Miles.

2088
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: After those arrows, he just isn't a wheelchair out.

2089
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, he's actually legs work, but it's upper

2090
01:31:45,079 --> 01:31:45,920
region doesn't.

2091
01:31:46,279 --> 01:31:48,600
Speaker 6: But yeah, so I would be wild to bring him

2092
01:31:48,640 --> 01:31:50,800
back like that in that sense, I could see maybe

2093
01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,119
like hey, we got like your blood, your DNA, We're

2094
01:31:53,119 --> 01:31:56,359
gonna reborn you as a just a pandoran.

2095
01:31:57,079 --> 01:32:00,119
Speaker 5: So this movie they just have thousands of Miles e

2096
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,359
is like cloned ready to go and actually like all

2097
01:32:03,359 --> 01:32:06,039
the chattery here over the columns just like his. But no,

2098
01:32:06,359 --> 01:32:08,760
I'm see, I'm more fine. I'm fine with him actually

2099
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,239
being the same character. Then oh he's playing a new

2100
01:32:11,359 --> 01:32:14,239
character that's just acts the exact same I'd rather than do.

2101
01:32:14,279 --> 01:32:16,039
Speaker 1: Some whatever, and that's like me what do you mean?

2102
01:32:16,039 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 5: How can they bring him back his fucking science fiction

2103
01:32:18,920 --> 01:32:20,560
you can do anything you want to be interesting?

2104
01:32:20,600 --> 01:32:23,560
Speaker 6: How they explain that, because they really emphasized like his

2105
01:32:23,720 --> 01:32:25,720
death scene too, so just to kind of like bring

2106
01:32:25,800 --> 01:32:28,600
him back as the villain, Like it's it's peculiar to

2107
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:29,560
me bos to.

2108
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 5: Turn into a fucking like skeleton on screen and die

2109
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:33,520
and the next movie is like to me, now, where's

2110
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,039
my ship?

2111
01:32:34,159 --> 01:32:35,359
Speaker 1: Like and that's magic?

2112
01:32:35,439 --> 01:32:35,560
Speaker 10: Right?

2113
01:32:35,600 --> 01:32:38,319
Speaker 5: This is just as what's what Jane Foster says or

2114
01:32:38,359 --> 01:32:40,680
floor what you call magic, I call science, And that

2115
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:41,680
they're gonna.

2116
01:32:41,399 --> 01:32:43,880
Speaker 6: I believe the Barbosa Revival more than I do this

2117
01:32:44,079 --> 01:32:47,880
one bullet and then voodoo witchcraft believe it.

2118
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:50,199
Speaker 1: And on the review quote, Tait's gonna be I love

2119
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:51,840
how they did it. Ten out of ten.

2120
01:32:53,239 --> 01:32:54,399
Speaker 4: I'll be lifting those ways.

2121
01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:57,279
Speaker 3: Tune in live to that range of Rick is gonna

2122
01:32:57,279 --> 01:32:59,560
be eligible for Golden Geeks is kind of a wild thought.

2123
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

2124
01:33:00,920 --> 01:33:03,359
Speaker 5: The differences though with the first Mos listed his colonel,

2125
01:33:03,439 --> 01:33:04,880
he's not listed as kernel.

2126
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 4: Here demoted promoted probably.

2127
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:10,760
Speaker 2: He's just Miles demoted President of Earth.

2128
01:33:11,079 --> 01:33:12,119
Speaker 4: That's what he is now.

2129
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:22,520
Speaker 1: With you anything else, I don't think so.

2130
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,000
Speaker 7: I like the opening when he's like waking up from cryal,

2131
01:33:25,119 --> 01:33:28,800
that's cool, sharing a bunk with his bunk made or whatnot.

2132
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,359
Speaker 2: Hopefully he's not ripping farts whole time.

2133
01:33:30,760 --> 01:33:32,960
Speaker 4: Do you remember how many years it takes to get

2134
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:33,880
to Pandora from Earth?

2135
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,159
Speaker 2: It's six.

2136
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:37,720
Speaker 4: I don't remember, so I'm generally as.

2137
01:33:39,199 --> 01:33:41,239
Speaker 2: Success, right, Yeah, there you go.

2138
01:33:41,399 --> 01:33:42,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's about that.

2139
01:33:42,439 --> 01:33:43,720
Speaker 4: Memberships for all you guys.

2140
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:46,479
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm getting it more than you two.

2141
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:47,880
Speaker 4: You're in, you're in.

2142
01:33:48,039 --> 01:33:51,239
Speaker 1: I don't want I'll sell it. Steem like what you're doing,

2143
01:33:51,319 --> 01:33:52,439
selling that past.

2144
01:33:54,079 --> 01:33:59,199
Speaker 2: You want to go to, want to go there?

2145
01:34:01,399 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 1: He walks me in this room that's just like fake trees. Okay,

2146
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:08,119
you put this boo makeup.

2147
01:34:07,840 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 2: And what does the same job as too?

2148
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:13,520
Speaker 7: He's like, my job is to make you make sure.

2149
01:34:13,319 --> 01:34:13,920
Speaker 2: You don't die.

2150
01:34:14,079 --> 01:34:17,840
Speaker 7: Basically like I will not succeed with all of you,

2151
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:18,600
not with all.

2152
01:34:18,520 --> 01:34:23,199
Speaker 5: Of you, especially that guy.

2153
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:26,119
Speaker 1: I'm gonna see this movie alone.

2154
01:34:26,159 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 5: I'm you're just be cackling and all this ship You'll

2155
01:34:29,000 --> 01:34:29,800
be getting weird looks.

2156
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:31,159
Speaker 2: Probably the guy alone.

2157
01:34:32,319 --> 01:34:41,319
Speaker 1: It's like that smiles. I told Taylor Bea.

2158
01:34:43,039 --> 01:34:47,319
Speaker 2: You're talking to everyone about around you hour and halpened

2159
01:34:47,319 --> 01:34:48,880
I got fired up on his OA.

2160
01:34:49,279 --> 01:34:53,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe make some Avatar themes. They make some great ones,

2161
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:53,439
you know.

2162
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:55,840
Speaker 3: The Way of the Water, the Rock.

2163
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:57,680
Speaker 2: You should be cast in one of these movies.

2164
01:34:57,680 --> 01:35:01,840
Speaker 1: You should be seeing the Sun. Yeah, I brought my son.

2165
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:04,920
Speaker 3: There'd be something weird about you the Rock being in

2166
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:07,119
the body of a Novvey just being I.

2167
01:35:07,039 --> 01:35:13,039
Speaker 2: Think it would just be the Rocky. He's like the one.

2168
01:35:12,399 --> 01:35:14,720
Speaker 5: The first that like, oh, we couldn't make one of

2169
01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:18,960
your size, and he's like this crawny, super skinny dude

2170
01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:25,760
and he's like in the Rocks body but like, yeah, yeah,

2171
01:35:26,079 --> 01:35:27,439
because you'll never see Black Adam.

2172
01:35:27,479 --> 01:35:29,439
Speaker 1: There's a moment. Remember what they did to Chris Evans

2173
01:35:29,439 --> 01:35:30,680
and Captain America.

2174
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:33,920
Speaker 3: Be more specific because there's.

2175
01:35:36,000 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 5: Form when then they come before the surgery. Yeah, they

2176
01:35:39,000 --> 01:35:40,800
do that to the Rock and Black Adam.

2177
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,119
Speaker 4: And it looks hilarious.

2178
01:35:42,359 --> 01:35:44,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like a skinny guy.

2179
01:35:44,920 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, like actually, yeah, he's looking for John in the bathroom.

2180
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:53,199
Speaker 1: But dyl Mu's final thoughts on Avatar.

2181
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,039
Speaker 3: I don't have any for you, Travis.

2182
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,279
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I'm said everything I need to, Like

2183
01:35:58,319 --> 01:36:01,039
I said, I will not seek this to watch again.

2184
01:36:01,079 --> 01:36:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I will watch.

2185
01:36:02,039 --> 01:36:05,079
Speaker 5: It again when my kids are interested enough, but uh yeah,

2186
01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:08,239
I'd more interested in the future of the franchise on

2187
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,840
how it does financial wise. And then they got me

2188
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,720
for this one. But after that we'll see if this

2189
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,439
if the second one is very similar to the first one.

2190
01:36:17,039 --> 01:36:19,520
Uh of course, we're doing the podcast at his job,

2191
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,640
so maybe we'll be there. But it's one of maybe,

2192
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:22,920
go oh, you know, I don't need to be it's

2193
01:36:23,119 --> 01:36:25,239
it's these run times at three twelve one. But for

2194
01:36:25,279 --> 01:36:27,640
this movie, even the runtime of two forty two not

2195
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:29,600
I'm a big fan of that, So I'll give it

2196
01:36:29,640 --> 01:36:31,359
a six out of ten. I think it's still like

2197
01:36:31,439 --> 01:36:33,880
a average fine adventure.

2198
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:36,479
Speaker 1: The spectacle is the visuals.

2199
01:36:35,920 --> 01:36:38,479
Speaker 5: And again I feel like when you're at home that

2200
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:41,119
doesn't always hold up, and that's where it comes down.

2201
01:36:41,199 --> 01:36:43,199
Speaker 1: You need great characters and story and writing.

2202
01:36:43,239 --> 01:36:45,479
Speaker 5: That's where it's like, Okay, yeah, sure, when I watch

2203
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:47,880
something like The Dark Knight, it's not the way it

2204
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:50,319
was when I wasn't the theaters, but everything else holds up.

2205
01:36:50,319 --> 01:36:51,760
Speaker 1: When I watch Star Wars, you know, the.

2206
01:36:51,680 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 5: Class of those things hold up with this that once

2207
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:58,279
that's those things aren't there. It's just the visuals. Uh,

2208
01:36:58,479 --> 01:37:00,560
there's you know, much rather visuals I would rather be

2209
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,439
seeing that are even a little bit better. There's video

2210
01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:05,079
games would rather be playing there more visually stunning. So yeah,

2211
01:37:05,239 --> 01:37:08,520
six out of ten, I'll pass it. But yeah, those

2212
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:11,560
are my thoughts. Kirkhambats are Uh.

2213
01:37:11,680 --> 01:37:12,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2214
01:37:12,079 --> 01:37:15,039
Speaker 7: I I feel like I've said basically most of the

2215
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:17,920
everything I wanted to. I really love this movie. I

2216
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:21,239
really do. It's it's always a fun one for me

2217
01:37:21,319 --> 01:37:24,520
to rewatch. I I feel like it's something from my childhood.

2218
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,479
I just love action adventure movies, like it's totally my

2219
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:29,560
type of genre. And that's something that really hasn't like

2220
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:32,119
disappeared as I've aged. I've definitely seen movies in a

2221
01:37:32,119 --> 01:37:34,399
different lens, but I still just have such a sweet

2222
01:37:34,399 --> 01:37:36,399
spot for these action adventures, and I feel like this

2223
01:37:36,479 --> 01:37:39,760
is this is definitely if you're seeking out, you know,

2224
01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,840
a nice long action adventure movie, this is exactly one

2225
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:45,600
that I would recommend. And it's funny enough, Shaye really

2226
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:47,399
doesn't like action adventures, so I never get to watch

2227
01:37:47,479 --> 01:37:51,520
like Mission Impossibles Born those types of movies. Like, like,

2228
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:53,960
I again, that's totally my jam. That's what I kind

2229
01:37:53,960 --> 01:37:57,079
of grew up watching and she hates it, so I'll

2230
01:37:57,119 --> 01:37:59,039
use watch it on my own. I threw this one

2231
01:37:59,039 --> 01:38:01,159
on though, and she like every time we watch Avatar,

2232
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,560
like she's she's engaged. She she she really likes the

2233
01:38:03,640 --> 01:38:06,960
navy and all that stuff. So fortunately her and like

2234
01:38:07,159 --> 01:38:09,159
she's working of course Opening Night for the Way of Water.

2235
01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:12,079
But we're gonna go watch it again probably two days later,

2236
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,399
which hopefully I love it because I'll be watching it twice.

2237
01:38:16,319 --> 01:38:18,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, seven hours of content right there. Hopefully I love it.

2238
01:38:19,079 --> 01:38:22,840
Speaker 7: I'll be big jumble pack of jujub's for the double feature.

2239
01:38:24,199 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 8: Man, if you just like it, and you know, you

2240
01:38:26,039 --> 01:38:29,199
know you got another three and she's all excited to go,

2241
01:38:29,279 --> 01:38:32,760
and I'm just like, yeah, I know, So I think

2242
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:35,399
I'm gonna rate this one in nine point five out

2243
01:38:35,399 --> 01:38:35,680
a ten.

2244
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, very very high.

2245
01:38:38,000 --> 01:38:40,479
Speaker 7: Again, like all of like the negatives that I was

2246
01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:43,119
like bringing up, I feel like it barely kind of

2247
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:44,920
crossed my mind while I'm watching it because I'm just

2248
01:38:45,199 --> 01:38:46,920
I'm just totally eating it up for the visuals and

2249
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:50,359
the actions really really awesome. But you know, we we

2250
01:38:50,359 --> 01:38:52,840
we definitely brought up some good nitpick moments that I

2251
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:55,319
think are completely valid, especially like you know, the writing

2252
01:38:56,119 --> 01:38:57,560
and its just some characters motivations.

2253
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 2: I feel like even there's certain moments.

2254
01:38:59,479 --> 01:39:03,000
Speaker 7: Where like j Souly, like he it feels like he

2255
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:04,840
has motivation for something and it's just kind of like

2256
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,520
thrown out the window because they're just trying to get

2257
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,840
to like a certain result, and like it like crosses

2258
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:12,000
my mind slightly in the moment, but.

2259
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,159
Speaker 2: Then it's just like, oh, yeah, let's go. Let's fucking go.

2260
01:39:14,399 --> 01:39:16,760
Speaker 7: Like the scene that was mentioned when he's when he's

2261
01:39:17,000 --> 01:39:19,720
bringing all the clients together, like I'm totally with him.

2262
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,439
Speaker 2: I'm I'm fucking fired up and ready to go. So yeah,

2263
01:39:24,319 --> 01:39:26,439
there you go, andand point.

2264
01:39:27,319 --> 01:39:30,039
Speaker 6: Yeah, Pandora, I'm always gonna go back here for some

2265
01:39:30,199 --> 01:39:32,560
R and R. It's just a fucking great time.

2266
01:39:33,399 --> 01:39:35,600
Speaker 1: There's no way we don't know what the score is.

2267
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:36,199
There's like.

2268
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,239
Speaker 4: This is an easily ten out of ten.

2269
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, it's it's just a it's an incredible movie.

2270
01:39:44,359 --> 01:39:47,319
It's incredible cgi and it's it's one of the few

2271
01:39:47,359 --> 01:39:51,119
movies that I thoroughly really do enjoy having seen in

2272
01:39:51,159 --> 01:39:52,800
three D, just for what they were able to kind

2273
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:54,760
of like showcase. I feel like they actually put that

2274
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:56,239
technology out there by kids.

2275
01:39:56,239 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 2: Three D up there too, corporated.

2276
01:39:59,319 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 6: I'd like three D like I don't mind it, but

2277
01:40:01,560 --> 01:40:04,119
like as far as movies that go ahead and actually

2278
01:40:04,439 --> 01:40:07,079
really make use of that three D, that's where I

2279
01:40:07,119 --> 01:40:10,039
think Avatar really excels because other movies, like, they do

2280
01:40:10,039 --> 01:40:11,840
the three D, but you don't get those scenes and

2281
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,600
sequences that were really tailored for that kind of technology,

2282
01:40:15,600 --> 01:40:18,640
Whereas with Avatar, they really wanted to execute these scenes

2283
01:40:18,680 --> 01:40:22,600
and really deliver on certain sequences with that three D component.

2284
01:40:22,680 --> 01:40:24,079
So I plowed them for that, and that's why it's

2285
01:40:24,079 --> 01:40:26,119
always gonna be like one of my top three films.

2286
01:40:26,239 --> 01:40:30,319
But yeah, I just think the character is the story, everything,

2287
01:40:30,359 --> 01:40:33,640
It's just all around a fucking fantastic time.

2288
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:39,399
Speaker 4: I know, I saw watch Brutal, gonna.

2289
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:51,439
Speaker 5: Second watch Avatar shak like.

2290
01:40:52,039 --> 01:40:53,720
Speaker 4: On that note, I'm with you.

2291
01:40:54,239 --> 01:40:58,039
Speaker 6: I've got I'm miss seeing Avatar again on the Sunday.

2292
01:40:58,079 --> 01:41:00,680
Speaker 4: I believe it is the Nikey.

2293
01:41:00,680 --> 01:41:03,279
Speaker 2: So we will dressed up like Ranger Rick.

2294
01:41:03,520 --> 01:41:08,079
Speaker 4: We will. Yeah, Madison's dad got tickets and so I'm

2295
01:41:08,119 --> 01:41:09,000
invited to go with him.

2296
01:41:09,000 --> 01:41:11,600
Speaker 1: So you're blaking's gonna bean some fucking fart theater.

2297
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:15,119
Speaker 4: So no, not that it's a private showing, so I

2298
01:41:15,159 --> 01:41:15,720
won't be there.

2299
01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:17,479
Speaker 1: So a private showing.

2300
01:41:17,359 --> 01:41:21,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, for for for his work or whatever.

2301
01:41:21,199 --> 01:41:23,119
Speaker 6: This company they usually do private showing its usually when

2302
01:41:23,159 --> 01:41:25,000
Star Wars movies come to come out, and so then

2303
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:27,319
for Avatar now too, So it's gonna be pretty nice.

2304
01:41:27,319 --> 01:41:29,079
Speaker 1: Give it. Wait a second, is there people from his

2305
01:41:29,159 --> 01:41:29,720
work there?

2306
01:41:30,119 --> 01:41:30,880
Speaker 4: Just his work? Yeah?

2307
01:41:31,079 --> 01:41:32,279
Speaker 1: Okay, how many people? Is that.

2308
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:34,000
Speaker 5: Be?

2309
01:41:34,039 --> 01:41:34,960
Speaker 4: Like twenty people?

2310
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:40,640
Speaker 6: When you go to a full house Lego movie too,

2311
01:41:41,479 --> 01:41:42,520
you get the farts?

2312
01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:46,720
Speaker 5: What was the other one Black Times this year where

2313
01:41:46,720 --> 01:41:49,560
people are just farting, You're gonna.

2314
01:41:49,359 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 7: Get like, that's opening relation in this theater that you're

2315
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,479
going to Like, what is the extreme?

2316
01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,359
Speaker 4: I'm going to extreme for this, So thank I never

2317
01:41:57,399 --> 01:41:58,319
get I never get.

2318
01:41:58,199 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 6: Wafts watch the Extreme Good Vents at the Good Vents.

2319
01:42:03,560 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 5: All these gentlemen tuning into the after our Way of

2320
01:42:06,720 --> 01:42:10,760
the Water to final people bomb Taylor's theater with gas.

2321
01:42:10,800 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 1: But uh yeah, there will be there will be a

2322
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,560
review for that. We're gonna I think we're doing that

2323
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,640
the night of uh, because I'm seeing at three pm

2324
01:42:20,640 --> 01:42:21,800
in the afternoons, we better be.

2325
01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:24,319
Speaker 5: Fucking doing it the night of uh but yeah, we'll

2326
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:26,800
be there talking way of the war. Thank you very

2327
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:29,199
much for tuning into this retrospective, promising here, from this

2328
01:42:29,359 --> 01:42:30,720
next I'll not be boring.

2329
01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 4: Bye.