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Speaker 4: Welcome back to with seekers from around the world. It's
Speaker 4: time for another edition of the Flat Earth Files podcast.
Speaker 4: I'm your host, as always, George Hobbs, as we record
Speaker 4: on this Tuesday, February eighteenth, twenty twenty five. And yes,
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Speaker 4: without any further ado, let's get to today's guest and Lewis,
Speaker 4: thank you so much for the podcast today.
Speaker 2: I can't thank you enough.
Speaker 5: No, thank you for inviting me. It's a real pleasure,
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Speaker 4: And for those who are listening, I will be posting
Speaker 4: Lewis's YouTube channel in the show description, so look out
Speaker 4: for that. Today we're going to be talking about, among
Speaker 4: other things, Satan's Little Season. But before we do so,
Speaker 4: let's give Lewis the opportunity to introduce yours. Please go
Speaker 4: ahead and introduce yourself to the audiencer. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was saved about a little over ten years ago,
Speaker 6: maybe eleven or so years ago.
Speaker 5: Before that, I was an.
Speaker 6: Atheist, fully full fledged scientism believer, and thankfully he saved
Speaker 6: me out of that. He used My mother's sickness and
Speaker 6: eventual death kind of hit me at my low point
Speaker 6: and I was searching for comfort. I found it in
Speaker 6: the best place to possibly find it, in the Word
Speaker 6: of God and spirit came upon me and just been
Speaker 6: reading it and studying it ever since, and I devoted
Speaker 6: my life to the service of the Most High and
Speaker 6: giving glory to Him wherever possible.
Speaker 4: I was just saying that, you know, it's awesome when
Speaker 4: we go through difficult times in our life that the
Speaker 4: Holy Spirit is able to pick us up and you know,
Speaker 4: kind of hand us a compass and set us back
Speaker 4: on our way, because we all do go through difficult
Speaker 4: times in our life, and I know for a lot
Speaker 4: of people to the point where they even question their
Speaker 4: belief system, which which is Satan at work. And it's
Speaker 4: always good to see when people realize the truth and
Speaker 4: come out on.
Speaker 2: The positive side.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 4: I had Gary Wayne on the podcast a year or
Speaker 4: two ago and he talked about the Genesis sixth conspiracy
Speaker 4: and I was kind of blown away how somebody could
Speaker 4: take literally one or two verses from the Bible from
Speaker 4: Genesis six and write two eight hundred page books about it.
Speaker 4: And this is kind of similar. You know, when you
Speaker 4: look at I think it's Revelation twenty. You know, just
Speaker 4: a couple verses when it talks, it's a few more
Speaker 4: verses when you encapsulate it all about Satan's little season
Speaker 4: and him being loosed. And I think that's probably where
Speaker 4: we should really start, is Revelation twenty. And if you
Speaker 4: give me a second, could I read that from the
Speaker 4: King James version?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Please?
Speaker 4: And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having
Speaker 4: the key of the bottomless Pit and a great chain
Speaker 4: in his hand, and he laid hold on the dragon,
Speaker 4: that old serpent, which is the devil and Satan, and
Speaker 4: bound him a one thousand years. Okay, now we're to
Speaker 4: verse three, and cast him into the bottomless pit and
Speaker 4: shut him up, set a seal on him that he
Speaker 4: should deceive the nations no more till the thousand years
Speaker 4: should be fulfilled, and after that he must be loosed
Speaker 4: for a little season. So let's just kind of pause there.
Speaker 4: And I think many people in my audience believe, like
Speaker 4: I do, that the timeline that they are telling us
Speaker 4: where're in is probably manipulated.
Speaker 2: Where do you stand on that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think.
Speaker 6: Especially for those that have come to the true Earth
Speaker 6: or biblical cosmology or flat Earth, however you want to
Speaker 6: label it, you kind of realize there is no such
Speaker 6: thing as a lot that's too big.
Speaker 5: Yes, thousands of people can be.
Speaker 6: In on it, knowingly or unknowingly perpetrating either intentionally trying
Speaker 6: to deceive us, or just repeating something that they were taught,
Speaker 6: not knowing that it's a lie, but even so still lying.
Speaker 6: Because if you'd asked me fifteen years ago, I would
Speaker 6: have told you all about Stephen Hawking and black holes
Speaker 6: and you know, all this kind of stuff that now
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's that's lunacy.
Speaker 5: Well how could I believe that, you know, So I
Speaker 5: didn't know I was lying.
Speaker 6: I just was, you know, listening to people that I
Speaker 6: thought knew what they were talking about, and they h
Speaker 6: historical narrative, I think is a lot easier to fake
Speaker 6: than what's up in the sky that we can all witness.
Speaker 6: No one was around fifteen hundred years ago, you know,
Speaker 6: in the flesh anyway. I'm sure angels were, but you know,
Speaker 6: no person was around to verify what someone wrote down
Speaker 6: or did that person even exists. Did they write it down,
Speaker 6: did someone come along find what they wrote?
Speaker 5: And so I don't like that.
Speaker 6: Let me rewrite this in their name and then like
Speaker 6: we want there to witness it. So history is much
Speaker 6: easier to fake. So that's why I think the Bible
Speaker 6: is so important as a history book that we can
Speaker 6: rely on what's in there and kind of use that
Speaker 6: as our foundation really for everything. But we're talking about
Speaker 6: history here, so use the Bible as a foundation for
Speaker 6: this souther world was created and everything that happened up
Speaker 6: until well, you know, I don't know, a few decades
Speaker 6: maybe after Jesus Christ. So we have reliable history from
Speaker 6: the beginning up until that point, and then from really,
Speaker 6: from the Book of Revelation is probably the last thing
Speaker 6: written by John in terms of you know, biblical timeline,
Speaker 6: that's probably the last thing written. So from there until now,
Speaker 6: the Bible is silent.
Speaker 5: We don't know.
Speaker 6: We have a lot of people who say that they know,
Speaker 6: a lot of people who tell us what happened, but
Speaker 6: did it really we don't know.
Speaker 5: There's no way that we can verify that. There are obviously.
Speaker 6: Gravestones written down with names on, and things literally chiseled
Speaker 6: into stone clay tablets that have been found, and you know,
Speaker 6: writings that have been passed down in monasteries and things
Speaker 6: like that that have been supposedly rewritten over time. But
Speaker 6: there's nothing, thus saith the Lord, that tells us where
Speaker 6: we are since you know, since the Book of Acts,
Speaker 6: since the Letters of Paul and the rest of the Apostles,
Speaker 6: and then the Book of Revelation, So anything after that,
Speaker 6: how long has that been and what happened in between?
Speaker 6: There's no biblically to tell us exactly. We have to
Speaker 6: go back to prophecy to see what is supposed to happen.
Speaker 6: And I think when we do that, and when we
Speaker 6: read the prophecies for what they say, not how we've
Speaker 6: been told to interpret them, it seems to say that
Speaker 6: Jesus comes and then he never really leaves, like there's
Speaker 6: no two thousand year or however long gap between the
Speaker 6: first and the second advent in the Old Testament. It
Speaker 6: seems like he comes and that's it. Really. The kingdom
Speaker 6: is established once he shows up as the Messiah, goes
Speaker 6: through his trials and tribulations, dead, buried, resurrected, ascends, and
Speaker 6: then that's kind of it. He's at the right hand
Speaker 6: of the Father. The kingdom has established at that point.
Speaker 6: There is no two thousand years between him that and
Speaker 6: coming back in the Old Testament. And then when we
Speaker 6: read the words of Jesus himself, as well as all
Speaker 6: the other disciples, everything that we have written in the
Speaker 6: Bible in the New Testament, they are all under the
Speaker 6: impression that he's coming back in their lifetime. I can
Speaker 6: only assume that they got that information from him, because
Speaker 6: his words that we see in the Gospel say the
Speaker 6: same thing.
Speaker 5: When we read them literally, we don't have to interpret them.
Speaker 6: We don't have to say that you know, quickly does
Speaker 6: not mean quickly at hand, does not really mean at hand?
Speaker 6: You know, just what does it say? And when we
Speaker 6: read that, they all thought he was coming back. So
Speaker 6: I don't have any reason to deny that he came
Speaker 6: back when he said here he isn't even he said
Speaker 6: he did not know the day or the hour, only
Speaker 6: the Father did. But that doesn't mean we don't know
Speaker 6: the season, and that he didn't know generally, you know,
Speaker 6: when he was going to come back, when he was
Speaker 6: given the order, the command from the father. Okay, now
Speaker 6: go get your bride, go down and judge the earth.
Speaker 6: He did not know that exact moment. But we're given,
Speaker 6: you know, prophecies of three and a half years, forty
Speaker 6: two months, five months, twelve hundred and sixty days, like
Speaker 6: we're given specific prophecies down to the day, so obviously
Speaker 6: they kind of knew like when when a certain thing happens,
Speaker 6: start counting from that time, and then you will get
Speaker 6: to another marker in time to kind of as a
Speaker 6: sign post to let you know where you are in
Speaker 6: this timeline, so to say, that, Oh, we're just out
Speaker 6: here in the dark. We don't know the day or
Speaker 6: the hour. You know, we're all kind of like. I
Speaker 6: don't think that's what was intended. I think he wanted
Speaker 6: his people to know exactly what was happening. We're here
Speaker 6: lost because it wasn't meant for us. It happened to
Speaker 6: a different generation. It wasn't really written to us for
Speaker 6: us to be looking for these signs, because it already
Speaker 6: happened in the past, during the generation of the people
Speaker 6: that he was speaking to. So that's kind of my
Speaker 6: take on that, and anything that happened after that, I
Speaker 6: can't really say. But that's where we can look at
Speaker 6: the physical evidence in the world and you know, kind
Speaker 6: of use the spirit of discernment to see what is
Speaker 6: most likely to have occurred. And the most likely thing
Speaker 6: to have occurred is that there was a thousand year
Speaker 6: reign once he started ruling. When I think once he
Speaker 6: went to the to the right end of the Father,
Speaker 6: that's when the kingdom began. Because you know, when we
Speaker 6: look at his own words, you know, the Kingdom of
Speaker 6: Heaven is as a mustard seed, it starts very small
Speaker 6: and then it starts to grow. So It started with,
Speaker 6: you know, acts chapter two, the Spirit coming down, and
Speaker 6: then there were three thousand souls that day, and then
Speaker 6: those souls went to because it was the feast of Pentecost,
Speaker 6: they went. They came there from all different parts of
Speaker 6: the world. It lists the cities where they came from
Speaker 6: at the beginning of chapter two. And then after Pentecost
Speaker 6: was over, they went back to their homes full of
Speaker 6: the Holy Spirit, telling everyone what they had seen, and
Speaker 6: more disciples were made. And then Peter Paul and everybody
Speaker 6: goes out and starts building the Kingdom of Heaven. Right,
Speaker 6: It started really small, and then it built and built
Speaker 6: and built, and then at some point point the nations
Speaker 6: were judged. I would think that's probably Fall of Jerusalem
Speaker 6: and seventy Dish seventy three. You know, the year is
Speaker 6: kind of disputed, but in that general area the nations
Speaker 6: were judged. Rome was judged at that point, and then
Speaker 6: the literal kingdom I believe in I've trying to read
Speaker 6: as literally as possible, so I do think there is
Speaker 6: a physical city of Mount Zion that descends through the
Speaker 6: firmament that is on the earth. For the thousand year
Speaker 6: millennial reign. Then after that, I would it would be
Speaker 6: hard pressed for me to say that we are still
Speaker 6: in that time, so I would have to say we
Speaker 6: are after that time if it did occur, which then
Speaker 6: leads us to Revelation twenty what you just read about.
Speaker 5: The Little season.
Speaker 6: After Satan is released and he goes out to deceive
Speaker 6: all the nations, he succeeds in that in that eventually
Speaker 6: the endgame is everyone goes and attacks the camp of
Speaker 6: the Saints and the Beloved City, and at that point, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 6: God has had enough. Fire comes down from heaven and
Speaker 6: that kind of like ends this timeline. And then there's
Speaker 6: the White Throne judgment where everybody, even Hell and death
Speaker 6: itself receives a judgment, and then the new Heavens and
Speaker 6: the New Earth begin. So I think we are after
Speaker 6: the millennium in the Little Season of Satan in our future.
Speaker 6: I can't say it's immediate or not, because as you mentioned,
Speaker 6: who knows how long a season is. It doesn't tell
Speaker 6: us exactly. Or maybe it does in the prophecy somewhere,
Speaker 6: but I haven't found it yet. Maybe it's in Daniel.
Speaker 6: I haven't haven't really decoded those, but a season I
Speaker 6: kind of think it's as long as it needs to
Speaker 6: be or Satan to get everybody to go attack the
Speaker 6: camp of the Saints. I think it's however long that takes.
Speaker 6: So we are here trying, you know, as believers in Christ,
Speaker 6: we're trying to fight off the darkness. We're trying to
Speaker 6: make this world as good as it can be, in
Speaker 6: to bring as many people into the kingdom as we can.
Speaker 6: So he's furious with us for doing that, like we're
Speaker 6: delaying his plans. He doesn't want us to do that.
Speaker 6: So he's trying to rule and reign. We are being
Speaker 6: rebellious against him. And however long it takes for him
Speaker 6: to get enough people and to gain enough control over
Speaker 6: the countries and over the armies and over the people
Speaker 6: to be able to attack the city, we'll try to
Speaker 6: make war one final time against the Heavenlys. I think
Speaker 6: that's how long the little season is.
Speaker 4: So listen to explain all this, Is it fair to say,
Speaker 4: do you think that as much as a thousand year
Speaker 4: discrepancy in our timeline?
Speaker 6: Here's where I am currently with that, And this is
Speaker 6: just my opinion. Other people are presenting different opinions and
Speaker 6: different timelines, which I think may be valid as well.
Speaker 6: It's hard to say, but I think that if we
Speaker 6: take let's just say seventy six a d as when
Speaker 6: the temple was destroyed, let's just say seventy six, then
Speaker 6: the millennial reign, so a thousand years they were at
Speaker 6: one thousand and seventy six. Then it seems that there
Speaker 6: is seven hundred years added to the timeline in the
Speaker 6: first in what we would call the first century, so
Speaker 6: the first century, the sixth century, and the ninth century.
Speaker 6: There are certain things that occur that are listed as
Speaker 6: three different events, but they could easily be one event
Speaker 6: just kind of assigned to different centuries. So Gunnar Heinsen
Speaker 6: is the person that has recently unfortunately he passed in
Speaker 6: twenty twenty three, but he was just starting to come
Speaker 6: forward with this work that he was doing. So are
Speaker 6: there is some videos, some teachings of his out there
Speaker 6: on this, and other people are now taking this research
Speaker 6: and running with it. That really the first century, sixth century,
Speaker 6: and ninth century, all those events that happened happened.
Speaker 5: At the same time. So there are seven hundred year
Speaker 5: years added to the timeline. Like it all happened.
Speaker 6: Let's just say at nine hundred a D and then
Speaker 6: they kind of backtracked to fill the gap between nine
Speaker 6: hundred and one hundred in the historical narrative official narrative
Speaker 6: as it is, so there's seven hundred years added. So
Speaker 6: we have seventy six a D a thousand year millennium
Speaker 6: plus seven hundred years. That gets us the seventeen seventy
Speaker 6: six and I think that is probably when the Little
Speaker 6: Season began. And the homage to that is the Statue
Speaker 6: of Liberty, which is really a statue of Lucifer with
Speaker 6: you know, the light bearer torch, and then there's a
Speaker 6: chain at the bottom of the statue that is broken.
Speaker 6: You know, as he's saying, I broke free from the pit.
Speaker 6: You know, they tried to chain me as you read there,
Speaker 6: but I broke free. He's probably claiming credit for it.
Speaker 6: I out, I'm out of the pit, and now this
Speaker 6: is my place. So I think seventeen seventy six the
Speaker 6: establishment of the New World is kind of like when
Speaker 6: the Little Season began, and then the timeline where we
Speaker 6: are everything really started the industrial revolution all history that
Speaker 6: is kind of like every technology that we have, everything
Speaker 6: we use, like even the bicycle, Like no one fought
Speaker 6: to put two wheels together and ride around on it
Speaker 6: until the eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 5: Like, I can't buy that.
Speaker 6: Like it just we're being given back all the technology
Speaker 6: that was taken from us or that we'd lost or
Speaker 6: whatever happened. We're getting everything back slowly now. And I
Speaker 6: believe it all happened started in seventeen seventy six. That's
Speaker 6: where I am currently with that. So we are at
Speaker 6: about two hundred and fifty years thereby from that. And
Speaker 6: you know, if if a thousand years is a year,
Speaker 6: then a season like the four quarters of a thousand
Speaker 6: years would be about two hundred and fifty years. So
Speaker 6: I'm kind of like thinking that those two things match
Speaker 6: up and shortly who knows. That's kind of where I
Speaker 6: am with it, But you know, don't hold me to it.
Speaker 6: I've never received a word on that, just kind of
Speaker 6: like it seems to make sense.
Speaker 4: Two things come to mind when you were discussing that
Speaker 4: number one, And I just made a mention to this
Speaker 4: on Twitter. Yesterday was April nineteenth. Somebody was talking about
Speaker 4: that timeline between April nineteenth and the beginning of May,
Speaker 4: which is known as the Feast of Moluk and for
Speaker 4: those who don't know. Of course, April nineteenth. If you
Speaker 4: look at the dark events through history, whether it's Oklahoma
Speaker 4: City April nineteenth, nineteen ninety five, you had Waco April nineteenth,
Speaker 4: nineteen ninety three. But the American Revolutionary War kicked off
Speaker 4: April nineteenth, seventeen seventy five. So I find that very
Speaker 4: interesting listening you talk about your timeline and then that
Speaker 4: went back to that date April nineteenth, seventeen seventy five,
Speaker 4: and the other thing that just completely slid.
Speaker 2: Oh, you were talking about technology.
Speaker 4: People never put you know, hey, let's put two wheels
Speaker 4: together and make this transportation. There's a lot of things
Speaker 4: you can correlate with that. We went from horses to
Speaker 4: airplanes in like twenty thirty years, right, well, you could
Speaker 4: say trains because they did have trains at that time,
Speaker 4: but you know, cars to airplanes in twenty years. They
Speaker 4: went from you know, rocket technology really took hold in
Speaker 4: the late thirties, you know, the V two rockets, et cetera.
Speaker 4: The advancement in technology just sped up. And of course
Speaker 4: we know they didn't go to the moon. However, there
Speaker 4: is technology out there that they can actually fly. You know,
Speaker 4: if you think about it, even this this piece of
Speaker 4: plastic here and if you're listening, I'm holding up a
Speaker 4: cell phone, you know, three inches by five inches, and
Speaker 4: you can look at your mom who's on the other
Speaker 4: side of the world, and have a conversation with them.
Speaker 4: It is very interesting to understand how quickly the acceleration
Speaker 4: of technology happened over the last one hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, just to think that, you know, people were riding
Speaker 6: on horses since they were tamed. However, long ago with
Speaker 6: with Noah, I was supposed after the flood until very
Speaker 6: until you know, a couple hundred years ago, and that
Speaker 6: like chariots were chariots, Like there were no cars, there
Speaker 6: were like everything was people walking around or riding on
Speaker 6: an animal, and now like we're in the skies. It
Speaker 6: just I personally think it is the wisdom of the
Speaker 6: watchers that you know, once Satan was released, they were
Speaker 6: able to start whispering into people's ears. Again, they had
Speaker 6: the knowledge, but it was kind of like they weren't
Speaker 6: able to disseminate it. During the millennium, like Christ was reigning, that.
Speaker 5: Was it, like his word was the word.
Speaker 6: And I think that's probably where secret societies came in,
Speaker 6: like they weren't able to operate out in the public. So,
Speaker 6: you know, because Christ was reigning, the priests and the kings,
Speaker 6: and you know that the resurrected saints were out there
Speaker 6: teaching the people the word of God and what he
Speaker 6: expected of them, and you know, people who were rebellious
Speaker 6: at that point. There's there's a misconception that the millennial
Speaker 6: reign of Christ is everybodybody you know, dancing around the
Speaker 6: fire singing kumbai ai.
Speaker 5: Like that's not what the Bible.
Speaker 6: Says at all. There are rebellious nations. There are people
Speaker 6: who will not do what he says, just as there
Speaker 6: were in the wilderness. Right if you think about you know,
Speaker 6: during the time of the Exodus and when the Torah
Speaker 6: was written, God was on earth at that point, you know,
Speaker 6: pillars of fire and pillars of smoke, and like there
Speaker 6: were miracles being done, and people did not convert, like
Speaker 6: they would not submit to the God of Heaven, like
Speaker 6: he was right there in front of them. So to
Speaker 6: think that all of a sudden, the wicked nations are
Speaker 6: going to give up their gods and just do whatever
Speaker 6: Jesus says, they're in the millennium, like, that's not what
Speaker 6: the evidence tells us. So, you know a lot of
Speaker 6: people were converted. I'm sure people were brought in, but
Speaker 6: the wicked are going to be wicked. The stiff necked
Speaker 6: are going to be stiff necked, and you know, so
Speaker 6: during the millennium, I think that's that's where secret societies
Speaker 6: came in. They hid their knowledge, they closely guarded their secrets,
Speaker 6: and then once Satan was released, they were willing to
Speaker 6: welcome them with open arms for you know, the money
Speaker 6: and the power that he was willing to give them
Speaker 6: for this short time, and they quickly took over the
Speaker 6: world and wrote all the books, all the history books,
Speaker 6: all the school books. They did everything that they needed
Speaker 6: to do with his guiding hand. Because if he's in
Speaker 6: the pit for a thousand years locked up, I'm sure
Speaker 6: he's just thinking of what he's going to do and
Speaker 6: how he's going to you know, control the world once
Speaker 6: he gets out.
Speaker 5: What else is he going to think about?
Speaker 6: So he had a plan very you know, he's not
Speaker 6: a fool, yet he executed it very well, I think,
Speaker 6: and we are now just kind of waking up to
Speaker 6: this fact that we're looking at things with the veil
Speaker 6: taken away from our eyes. So you know, we look
Speaker 6: at most people look at the buildings that are out
Speaker 6: of place and that just were not built with the
Speaker 6: chisel and horsepower.
Speaker 5: Just sorry, that.
Speaker 6: Doesn't mean there was a millennium, but it does mean
Speaker 6: that those buildings were not built the way that we
Speaker 6: were told, with the technology that the people had at
Speaker 6: the time that we were told. But I like to
Speaker 6: look at the geologic evidence because that's a lot harder
Speaker 6: to fake or to you know, put a story to
Speaker 6: then like oh, this was built in a year you know,
Speaker 6: no electricity and no motor engines and no you know, even.
Speaker 5: Steam engines or anything.
Speaker 6: But so the geologic evidence is out there and that's
Speaker 6: a lot harder for Satan to conceal. But that's kind
Speaker 6: of where the you know, billions of years of time passed.
Speaker 6: That's where kind of like that lie comes in that
Speaker 6: he can he can take something that is like, oh,
Speaker 6: that took billions of years for that to happen over there,
Speaker 6: when really that happened probably you know, the Day of
Speaker 6: the Lord kind of melted that. And you know this,
Speaker 6: if we look at like the sedimentary layers, like if
Speaker 6: you're driving past the mountain that's kind of cut into
Speaker 6: for the road, you can see the sedimentary layers to it,
Speaker 6: and very rarely is it horizontal. It's tilted, it's buckled,
Speaker 6: it's folded. Sometimes it's even upside down. It's like, well,
Speaker 6: if the flood laid down those layers, which I think
Speaker 6: is most likely, when did it tilt forty five degrees?
Speaker 6: Like when did it break and shaft?
Speaker 5: And like when?
Speaker 6: Like I kind of think that's where the Day of
Speaker 6: the Lord comes in, where the return of Christ where
Speaker 6: he came to judge the world with fire. That I
Speaker 6: think fire was literal fire as well as lightning. So
Speaker 6: when you look like through what we call satellite images
Speaker 6: where if you look from above, there's a lot of
Speaker 6: dendritic ridges, there are scalloped out areas, which happen a
Speaker 6: lot with electricity. When it goes into an area, it
Speaker 6: just kind of scallops and blows things out, and then
Speaker 6: if it's in a prolonged area, it you know, these
Speaker 6: lightning scarred features kind of go out from that. We
Speaker 6: see that everywhere everywhere you look, that's there and that's
Speaker 6: not mentioned in the flood, Like the flood was water
Speaker 6: and wind and that kind of stuff. And then also
Speaker 6: it says he arises to shake terribly the earth in
Speaker 6: a few places. So the earth is supposed to be shaken,
Speaker 6: it's supposed to be tilted and turned around, it says,
Speaker 6: you know, almost turned upside down, so that.
Speaker 5: We see that.
Speaker 6: We literally see evidence of that all over the world.
Speaker 6: Pretty much anywhere you look, you're going to see that.
Speaker 6: So to me, that's evidence that it happened. You know,
Speaker 6: we have melted buildings, we have melted mountains, we have
Speaker 6: melted landscapes, and that is being judged by fire. Literally,
Speaker 6: that's what it is. So I think that the geologic
Speaker 6: evidence is there that it happened. And you look back
Speaker 6: read the Bible, where does it happen? Did that happen?
Speaker 6: Free Christ? I don't think so. We have Sodom and
Speaker 6: Gomora and those surrounding cities, but I don't see a
Speaker 6: large scale judgment all over the place other than today
Speaker 6: of the Lord. So to me, that's also evidence that
Speaker 6: it happened.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think, you know, when we talk about
Speaker 4: the Biblical cosmology and the heliocentric deception, one of the
Speaker 4: things people will point to, you know, what about this,
Speaker 4: You know, meteor hole, that's what they call him.
Speaker 2: You know, this big hole you.
Speaker 4: Know somewhere in a certain part of the world that
Speaker 4: could lend credence to what you just said. Also, I
Speaker 4: think the Grand Canyon is something that lends credence to
Speaker 4: what you were saying. And then as far as architecture goes,
Speaker 4: it's very interesting that the architecture in you know, Washington,
Speaker 4: d C. And in other places around the world really
Speaker 4: reflects Rome and that type of architecture. You know, that
Speaker 4: timeline is very interesting to me. And I think that
Speaker 4: whether it's the capital or all the architecture down there
Speaker 4: is very much Roman Empire type of architecture.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we might almost expect it in Washington, D C.
Speaker 6: You could see maybe you get away with that there, Yeah,
Speaker 6: but doesn't belong in Nebraska Tennessee. Like nothing against those places,
Speaker 6: but like there is a Parthenon in Tennessee. What we're
Speaker 6: told that someone went over to Greece, liked it and
Speaker 6: then went back to Tennessee and built it in what
Speaker 6: they thought it might have looked like, or it was
Speaker 6: built at the same time as the actual Parthenon, and
Speaker 6: one was destroyed and one wasn't. Like you know, like,
Speaker 6: were all of these buildings built in a Renaissance style?
Speaker 6: They really liked what it was, so they just built
Speaker 6: it that way all.
Speaker 5: Over the world.
Speaker 6: And I'm in South America. There are Roman style buildings
Speaker 6: in South America. Like I've seen them here. It's like,
Speaker 6: how did they get here?
Speaker 5: Who built them? And when? And with what money? And
Speaker 5: why why would you do that?
Speaker 6: You're completely different in theory, right, We're told that the
Speaker 6: South American culture did not interact with the Roman culture
Speaker 6: when Rome was existing, right when they were building those
Speaker 6: old buildings. So when did they let the When did
Speaker 6: they give the South Americans the knowledge to build these things? Again,
Speaker 6: someone had to sail on a wooden ship with the
Speaker 6: sale from here to Rome see those buildings, and then
Speaker 6: sail back and say, hey, that's cool, let's build them here.
Speaker 6: That's not likely to me, I just and then that's
Speaker 6: one example, right for South America where I am literally
Speaker 6: Then what about other places in South America that I
Speaker 6: haven't been to? In you know, everywhere you choose, like
Speaker 6: choose the name of a country, choose the name of
Speaker 6: a city, You're going to find Roman architecture there.
Speaker 5: And even before that, you're going to.
Speaker 6: Find Greek architecture, and you're going to find at some
Speaker 6: point all of that changes than to Gothic architecture. And
Speaker 6: to me, that's kind of where the Millennial Rain came.
Speaker 6: I think the Gothic architecture is the beginning of Whether
Speaker 6: Saints built it or people built it under the direction
Speaker 6: of the Saints, I don't know. I can't say, but
Speaker 6: I think that most cathedrals that we see with the
Speaker 6: spires and the rose windows and you know, like the
Speaker 6: reverberating sound and the vibration, all of those things I
Speaker 6: think were built during the Millennial Rain. But again, I
Speaker 6: can't say for sure. It's just where my research has
Speaker 6: led me to this point. But I kind of think
Speaker 6: that's where the dividing line came in with Rome, that
Speaker 6: they would not have been building Roman architecture during the
Speaker 6: Millennial I think that was kind of like, yeah, I
Speaker 6: was probably God was probably not happy with that, sure,
Speaker 6: because the people building that were idolatrous and.
Speaker 4: Yep, Peggy, I think they would have been building yep.
Speaker 4: That's all all great points. And you know, going back
Speaker 4: to you know, you believe the timeline really began right
Speaker 4: around the Revolutionary War, you know, Declaration of Independence seventeen
Speaker 4: seventy six.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: You know something that we hear a lot is, you know,
Speaker 4: we haven't had very many good presidents except for George Washington.
Speaker 4: And something that I've been studying a lot recently or
Speaker 4: thinking about recently is you know his little tribute stone
Speaker 4: that I think is in Massachusetts somewhere, and it says
Speaker 4: it's got his bust and then it says, you know,
Speaker 4: George Washington, free Mason and first American president, and Freemasons
Speaker 4: are more proud. That's what it tells me is George
Speaker 4: Washington was more proud of being a free ma than
Speaker 4: being the first president of the United States. One cannot
Speaker 4: be a freemason. And sure, you know first second third degree,
Speaker 4: you're out there raising money, don't really understand what you're.
Speaker 2: Getting into, got it?
Speaker 4: But one doesn't ascend to, you know, a thirty third
Speaker 4: degree and truly be a man of God in my opinion.
Speaker 4: And again that's not saying someone can change over time.
Speaker 4: But you know, from what I've studied, I don't think
Speaker 4: there's ever been one good president. I think they're all
Speaker 4: part of the club, which again lends credence to what
Speaker 4: you were saying is, you know, let's start the new
Speaker 4: World order. Let's get all these religious you know, a
Speaker 4: lot of these people who were in the States, we're
Speaker 4: under religious persecution. That's why they left England in the
Speaker 4: sixteen hundred. You had the Reformation, you had King James,
Speaker 4: Francis Bacon was friends with King James, a lot of
Speaker 4: people coming over here. So I think that the whole
Speaker 4: Founding Father's story was to get all the colonies together
Speaker 4: back in line, because they did have a grand plan
Speaker 4: of eventually, you know, being the military industrial complex and
Speaker 4: being the heavy hand for Satan.
Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's hard to say. Did any of that
Speaker 6: actually happen? Maybe, you know, like that's where we kind
Speaker 6: of have to be with this, like did.
Speaker 5: Those people exist? Was that all just fake?
Speaker 6: Like I don't know, Probably some of that is true,
Speaker 6: But did it happen at that time.
Speaker 5: That we're given right? Maybe maybe not.
Speaker 6: We have to be open minded to all of this
Speaker 6: because if if Satan came out and just started writing
Speaker 6: stuff down and telling people, this is what we're going
Speaker 6: to tell everybody history is, you know, we need to
Speaker 6: erase the last thousand years. We can't let everybody know
Speaker 6: Christ came back. So let's just make up some stuff
Speaker 6: that starts from the end of the Bible. Let's just
Speaker 6: make up what happened. Did the Church fathers exist? Did
Speaker 6: they exist at that point of time?
Speaker 5: When did the ref happened? Was it a good thing?
Speaker 5: Was it a bad thing?
Speaker 6: Was the Catholic Church the Church of God? Was the
Speaker 6: church during the millennium the Catholic Church? And then it
Speaker 6: became the Roman Catholic Church once the little season started?
Speaker 6: Did they then claim it as their own, move into
Speaker 6: all those buildings and then say, oh, hey, this is us,
Speaker 6: Like this was always us. Look look how important we are.
Speaker 6: We've been at throughout history. Like did they just move
Speaker 6: in and take it over as their own? Maybe maybe not.
Speaker 6: It's hard to say, but we should be asking the questions.
Speaker 6: We should not just accept the history they've given us,
Speaker 6: because at the very least it's flawed. Right, No one
Speaker 6: can say that history is accurate. Like even in mainstream
Speaker 6: circles they say it's written by the winners, and you know,
Speaker 6: it's a group of lies agreed upon or whatever whatever
Speaker 6: that's saying. Is so, Like even the mainstream people know
Speaker 6: that it's not all that accurate. And then when you
Speaker 6: put in a spiritual aspect that there is an adversary,
Speaker 6: there are deceivers out there who are working against the
Speaker 6: Vestrian interest of the people. Even if you take away
Speaker 6: the spiritual aspect, there's rich, powerful people who are working
Speaker 6: in their own interests, and those interests do not align
Speaker 6: with us. So you know, at the very least they're
Speaker 6: going to lie to protect themselves. So we need to
Speaker 6: question everything. But as to your specific points there, I'm
Speaker 6: tending to think now that see, I don't know if
Speaker 6: you've looked into pilgrimages. I'm starting to look into these
Speaker 6: like for there's records of pilgrimages happening from the first
Speaker 6: century up until the Reformation, and then the Reformation put
Speaker 6: in made it illegal to go to a holy site
Speaker 6: to a pilgrimage. And we see in the Book of
Speaker 6: Zechariah that during the millennium the nations are required to
Speaker 6: make pilgrimages to the Holy City. So like it is,
Speaker 6: it was a requirement to go up for the Feast
Speaker 6: of Tabernacles, and so that was happening from there's they're
Speaker 6: called badges or tokens or there's sometimes there's like clay,
Speaker 6: I want to have it.
Speaker 5: Here one second, just find that real quick.
Speaker 6: Yeah, a ambulae, tokens, badges or medals have been found
Speaker 6: from the first century until the Reformation, when the Reformers
Speaker 6: banned the practice. They said it was idolatristic, you can't
Speaker 6: do this anymore. And there's a record in the year
Speaker 6: fifteen twenty. Again, who knows if this is a real
Speaker 6: there's a record in one year of one pilgrimage site
Speaker 6: selling over one hundred and twenty thousand badges. So one
Speaker 6: single site in one single year had one hundred and
Speaker 6: twenty thousand pilgrimage pilgrims there. So that practice happened for
Speaker 6: over a thousand years and then it ceased overnight and
Speaker 6: it was illegal to do it. That's weird, isn't that
Speaker 6: just weird?
Speaker 5: It is.
Speaker 4: And once again, if we believe the timeline, if I
Speaker 4: can just interject this real quick, According to the the
Speaker 4: timeline that we are told, it was fifteen thirty eight,
Speaker 4: which is that same timeline right, that that's Copernicus, that
Speaker 4: that's Martin Luther and all these things that we're told about.
Speaker 4: That that date the ban included forbidding the offering of
Speaker 4: money candles and banning pilgrimages. It was called the Act
Speaker 4: of Parliament banning Pilgrimages.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's if you really want to go into
Speaker 6: a rabbit hole, start look into Pope Sextus s e
Speaker 6: x t Us. There have been five of them, so
Speaker 6: Sextus the first, second, third, fourth, and fifth, so we're
Speaker 6: waiting and Sextus, like the transliteration of that is six,
Speaker 6: so we're waiting for the sixth Sextus, the sixth Pope Sextus,
Speaker 6: and all five of them so far have been important
Speaker 6: during important times in history. Now, again, was this only
Speaker 6: one person that they've then kind of split up into
Speaker 6: different timeslines? Perhaps, but there's there's a lot there. And
Speaker 6: when you're talking about Copernicus and that whole timeline, Pope
Speaker 6: Sextus and his immediate I don't know if it was
Speaker 6: predecessor or the person before him, the person after him. Uh,
Speaker 6: they that was Pope Gregory, so that that's when the
Speaker 6: Gregorian calendar came in. They changed the times, they changed
Speaker 6: the laws that wash. There's a man, Reggio Montes, who
Speaker 6: was the.
Speaker 5: Teacher, the teacher of Copernicus.
Speaker 6: So all of this stuff happened right around that same
Speaker 6: time where the new calendar came in, a new cosmology
Speaker 6: came in.
Speaker 5: I knew all of like the.
Speaker 6: That's when the sixth the Sistine Chapel, it's really the
Speaker 6: sixteen Chapel after Sixtus, and then we just kind of
Speaker 6: anglicized it to Cystine, but it's named after him. It's
Speaker 6: the sixteen Chapel, and all the kind of stuff like
Speaker 6: you can spend You can spend weeks and weeks and
Speaker 6: weeks going through one tiny.
Speaker 5: Rabbit hole on this and.
Speaker 6: Still try to figure out where that.
Speaker 5: One piece fits it to the whole.
Speaker 6: But if I can, I just want to make sure
Speaker 6: that we that I mentioned one thing right, it's I
Speaker 6: kind of touched on at the beginning. It's audience relevance.
Speaker 5: Right, So.
Speaker 6: When we read the scriptures, we've been taught to read
Speaker 6: it that it's speaking to us, right, that it's written
Speaker 6: to us and written for us and written about us,
Speaker 6: and we can interpret the prophecies for us and for
Speaker 6: the people before us and for the people after us, right,
Speaker 6: that it's kind of like an anamorphous thing that is
Speaker 6: for all people throughout all time, and all of it
Speaker 6: applies to everybody. You know, that's kind of the extreme,
Speaker 6: But we've been taught around that general area.
Speaker 5: I think it's the exact opposite.
Speaker 6: Personally, the more I get into it, the more literal
Speaker 6: I think it is. So for example, in Philippians two nineteen,
Speaker 6: Paul is writing to the people of Philippi. So you
Speaker 6: have actual a person writing a real letter and then
Speaker 6: sending that letter to a real congregation who are going
Speaker 6: to unroll the scroll and read it. So he says
Speaker 6: two nineteen, He says, I trust in the Lord Jesus
Speaker 6: to send Timotheus shortly unto you. And then in verse
Speaker 6: twenty four he says, but I trust in the Lord
Speaker 6: that I myself also may come shortly. Do any of
Speaker 6: us expect that Timothy and Paul? Timothy and Paul are
Speaker 6: going to be sent to us? To me and you, like,
Speaker 6: do you look out your window and out your door,
Speaker 6: where's Timothy? Is he coming to me shortly? No? We
Speaker 6: recognize when we read that, like, intellectually we know that
Speaker 6: Paul wrote that to the Philippians, right, so we don't
Speaker 6: think that he wrote that verse to us. But then
Speaker 6: in the same letter, right, it's a letter, so in
Speaker 6: the same letter in chapter four. Chapter four begins with
Speaker 6: he starts telling people all the things that be righteous,
Speaker 6: you know, don't be backfighters, don't do all these bad things.
Speaker 6: And then he ends that section with the Lord is
Speaker 6: that hand. And now when we read that, all of
Speaker 6: a sudden, the things that Paul is saying in the
Speaker 6: Book of Philippians, you know, how to live and how
Speaker 6: to honor God, the Lord is at hand all of
Speaker 6: a sudden. Now those things are meant for us, like
Speaker 6: the Lord is at hand. That's an end time statement. No,
Speaker 6: that's for the Philippians that he wrote the letter to, right,
Speaker 6: So when he says things like that, and when Yeshua
Speaker 6: says things like that, and when Jesus and when John
Speaker 6: says things like that, and Jude and Peter, it's literally
Speaker 6: all of them are saying the exact same thing. The
Speaker 6: time is at hand, you know, the time is short.
Speaker 6: He's talking to them, so it's it's not like the
Speaker 6: second chapter of Philippians he wrote to them, and in
Speaker 6: the fourth chapter he wrote to a future generation.
Speaker 5: He wrote the whole letter to them. He expected them
Speaker 5: to read it.
Speaker 6: Who knows if he knew that, if it was even
Speaker 6: going to be preserved for a future generation. He probably did,
Speaker 6: I would tend to believe. But more important and he
Speaker 6: wanted the people in Philippi to get right with God
Speaker 6: because Jesus was coming back. So when we read the
Speaker 6: scriptures in that mindset, right, it wasn't written to us,
Speaker 6: but it was written for us. Right, everything that the
Speaker 6: Holy Spirit says is for correction and reproof and is
Speaker 6: for you know, refining a person to become the person
Speaker 6: that God wants them to be. So everything that's written,
Speaker 6: we should obviously read it and try to learn what
Speaker 6: we can from it. But I never received a letter
Speaker 6: from from John Right, he wrote a gospel, he wrote
Speaker 6: revelation and three epistles. None of them were were addressed
Speaker 6: and sent to me. Like he just didn't write to me.
Speaker 6: He wrote to the people at the time that we're
Speaker 6: going to read it. So I think it's very important
Speaker 6: that we have that mindset when we're reading it.
Speaker 5: Take it literally. What does it say.
Speaker 6: We don't need to interpret it like it's meant to
Speaker 6: be understood. Right, There's no he doesn't write in mysteries
Speaker 6: and things like that. He wants it to be understood.
Speaker 6: So when it says here, I have if I could
Speaker 6: just read this in these are New Testament phrases. Cities
Speaker 6: are all in Greek. It says nigh and at hand,
Speaker 6: and then it's g one four four eight is the
Speaker 6: strongest number on that. That means to approach, to be
Speaker 6: in hand, to come near, to be near, to be nigh,
Speaker 6: to draw nigh. And then it says gone over. In
Speaker 6: one place, he says you to his apostles, you will
Speaker 6: not have gone over all the cities of Israel before
Speaker 6: I return, before the Son of Man comes.
Speaker 5: So what does that mean? To have gone over?
Speaker 6: Says to end, to complete, to conclude, to accomplish, to
Speaker 6: make an end, to finish, to go over like you
Speaker 6: will not have had time to go over these places.
Speaker 6: And then he says the kingdom has come, so it's
Speaker 6: to have to have arrived at is the is the
Speaker 6: meaning of that? In other places says this generation? So
Speaker 6: what does that mean? People say, oh, that means the
Speaker 6: end time generation. That's not what the word means. That's
Speaker 6: what you want. It's a mean maybe, but that's not
Speaker 6: what it means. It means the multitude of people living
Speaker 6: at the same time within a space of thirty years,
Speaker 6: the time occupied by a generation. So when he says
Speaker 6: this generation, he means the people he's speaking to that
Speaker 6: are listening to his words. And then nigh at hand.
Speaker 6: There's another word for that, which means of times imminent
Speaker 6: and soon to come to pass, and that's the word
Speaker 6: in Philippians. When he says the Lord is in hand,
Speaker 6: what he's saying is the time of the Lord, the
Speaker 6: time of Jesus is imminent. It's soon to come to pass.
Speaker 6: So get yourself right, and here's here's what you need
Speaker 6: to do to do. A couple of times he says
Speaker 6: you shall see. He says that to the Pharisees. He
Speaker 6: also says that to Jesus, says that to the high
Speaker 6: Priest and the accounts of the elders when he's being judged,
Speaker 6: and that means they're going to gaze at with wide
Speaker 6: open eyes. It's something remarkable, like when he says, you
Speaker 6: will see the Son of Man coming up the louds
Speaker 6: of heaven in his glory. They're going to gaze at
Speaker 6: it with open eyes and be astonished that they saw this.
Speaker 6: And he's saying that to the people in the courtroom
Speaker 6: at the time, not saying that to you and me.
Speaker 6: Other places as shortly or short, that's a brief space
Speaker 6: of time. In haste, quickly, speedily, he says a little while.
Speaker 6: In the Book of Hebrews it says a little while,
Speaker 6: and that means of a short time. Brief how literally
Speaker 6: says how little with an exclamation mark in the strongs concordance,
Speaker 6: like how little amount of time. I can't express to you,
Speaker 6: how short the amount of time is. They said that
Speaker 6: in the Book of Hebrews, and then again quickly another
Speaker 6: word in the Greek shortly without delay, soon I surprise,
Speaker 6: suddenly like None of these words in the language of
Speaker 6: the New Testament imply a two thousand year gap between
Speaker 6: his first coming and his second coming. Every writer of
Speaker 6: the New Testament is telling the audience that it is
Speaker 6: written to or spoken to. It's going to happen very
Speaker 6: quickly in this generation, most likely in your lifetime. Some
Speaker 6: of you may pass away, but some of you standing
Speaker 6: here will be alive to see this. Some of us
Speaker 6: will be caught up in the clouds right some of
Speaker 6: us us. Paul is putting himself in that grouping of
Speaker 6: people that he's writing to the thessalonience, so it it's
Speaker 6: not written to us and that may be a shot
Speaker 6: to the ego, but it is the literal reading of
Speaker 6: the text. And what I learned, mostly from cosmology and
Speaker 6: from coming to realize that what it says it means
Speaker 6: is that what it says it means. I don't need
Speaker 6: to read herpert what firmament is. It tells me what
Speaker 6: it is in the book.
Speaker 5: So when it says.
Speaker 6: He's coming shortly, he's coming shortly to them at that time.
Speaker 6: And the only reason I think otherwise is because man
Speaker 6: has told me so in my history books. It never
Speaker 6: told me he came. I can't go to encyclopedia and
Speaker 6: find the passages on the millennial kingdom that you know
Speaker 6: he came and ruled for a thousand years.
Speaker 5: It's been wiped out.
Speaker 6: So when when I'll just say, scoffers to this idea,
Speaker 6: say oh, well that never happened, You've never been told
Speaker 6: that has happened.
Speaker 5: Correct, There's a big difference between those two things.
Speaker 4: Yep, well, and you laid it out perfectly. And just
Speaker 4: to add on on Strong's concordance thirty three ninety eight,
Speaker 4: the Greek word micros and like you said, all these
Speaker 4: words have meaning microscope, microscopic, very very small. And if
Speaker 4: you look at Revelation twenty three after that, he must
Speaker 4: be loosed a little season. That's what it refers to,
Speaker 4: thirty three ninety eight. So I think that does add
Speaker 4: to what you just said. There are people listening today
Speaker 4: who very may well see the end of the little season.
Speaker 4: And again, you know, we can only go by what
Speaker 4: we read. But again, if you use these interpretations, and
Speaker 4: you use Strong's concordance to as an additional reading asset
Speaker 4: that there is very much truth to what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Also for people who doubt this.
Speaker 4: And you know, maybe we can't prove what happened in
Speaker 4: the seventeen hundreds because obviously none of us were our grandparents,
Speaker 4: were their grandparents were alive at the time. However, things
Speaker 4: that have happened in the last fifty years, which I've
Speaker 4: seen with my own eyes, I've been able to prove
Speaker 4: that they are live. So imagine what they write about
Speaker 4: things that we haven't been around for. We know, the
Speaker 4: Gulf of Tonkin was a lie. Nine to eleven was
Speaker 4: a lie. Waco, Oklahoma City. You can just go back
Speaker 4: four or five years ago to twenty twenty and that lie.
Speaker 4: So to just write this off as you know, you know,
Speaker 4: that's not what my history book says. I think, well,
Speaker 4: I think most people in our community who listen to
Speaker 4: the podcast, they get that.
Speaker 6: I agree, this one hits differently, though. I have to say,
Speaker 6: there are people that I've been in fellowship with for
Speaker 6: a long time that have studied, like you said, studied
Speaker 6: a single verse weeks at a time, going word by
Speaker 6: word and letter by letter. I showed them something like
Speaker 6: this and the wall comes up and they're like, no, no, I.
Speaker 5: Don't like that. That's it.
Speaker 6: Just this does something to the spirit because it is
Speaker 6: a fundamental paradigm shift to realize that, wow, have I
Speaker 6: been Because a lot of us in this walk we
Speaker 6: kind of think that we walk with discernment, and we
Speaker 6: can kind of pick things out like, oh, that doesn't
Speaker 6: seem quite right. But all of us fell for this,
Speaker 6: you know, and some of us are still in this,
Speaker 6: and there's nothing wrong with that as long as we're
Speaker 6: willing to question and be humble and realize that, you know,
Speaker 6: do I really know? Can I really verify that this happened?
Speaker 6: And let me look at all the evidence, take it
Speaker 6: in calmly, go back to the scriptures and see really
Speaker 6: where what makes the most sense, and maybe a person
Speaker 6: after doing that comes to the conclusion that all the
Speaker 6: stuff is still to happen in the future.
Speaker 5: I have no problem with that.
Speaker 6: The issue arises when people have the knee jerk reaction
Speaker 6: and they're just like that, no, that makes no sense,
Speaker 6: Like that's that's dumb, Like where did you come up
Speaker 6: with that? That's a doctrine of satan or whatever? Get
Speaker 6: out of here with that without even taking time to
Speaker 6: research it. And that's we see that in the cosmology community.
Speaker 5: The same way, like and a lot of that.
Speaker 6: I think it's the same spirit behind the rejection and
Speaker 6: the mockery and the scoffing, because we really see it.
Speaker 6: It's like the same the same questions, the same straw man's,
Speaker 6: the same fallacious arguments, the same lack of research. You know,
Speaker 6: they'll they'll they'll say, I'll go research that, and they
Speaker 6: go to like Snopes or some website that clearly doesn't
Speaker 6: have the truth, and then they just echo and repeat
Speaker 6: those answers. They're like, you know, you're like, what's a star.
Speaker 6: They're like, oh, a star as a ball. Guess that's
Speaker 6: trillions of miles away. It's like do you know that
Speaker 6: or did you read that somewhere online? Like you're saying
Speaker 6: as if it's the truth, but do you really know that?
Speaker 6: So I think it's the same spirit behind it, and
Speaker 6: it's there's the same arrogance. You know, I'm not trying
Speaker 6: to insult people, but you know, it's like the wall
Speaker 6: goes up and like as a shield against an uncomfortable truth,
Speaker 6: they become prideful and arrogant. There's an appeal to consensus,
Speaker 6: so like it would be written down, we would have
Speaker 6: writings about it. You know, they appeal to authority. They
Speaker 6: argue against what they perceive that we're saying, rather than
Speaker 6: actually listening to what we're saying. So a lot of
Speaker 6: times I've heard, you know, people say, oh, there's never
Speaker 6: been a thousand years of peace. It's like, well, you
Speaker 6: don't know that there's never been a thousand years of piece.
Speaker 6: You were not alive for a thousand years to verify
Speaker 6: that statement. So like, step back, step back, and don't
Speaker 6: just declare there has not been a thousand years of peace.
Speaker 6: Maybe there has and we just haven't been told about it.
Speaker 6: But even when you look into those prophecies where he
Speaker 6: says they will be they will be taught or they
Speaker 6: will earn war. No more, the word learned there just
Speaker 6: means to be taught. It doesn't say there will be
Speaker 6: no war. It just says they won't be taught war
Speaker 6: because Satan's not there whispering in their.
Speaker 5: Ears telling them they need to go to war.
Speaker 6: So even and then it also says in my holy mountain,
Speaker 6: he puts a qualifier on it, there will be no
Speaker 6: war in my holy mountain.
Speaker 5: That's not the entire earth, that is Mount Zion.
Speaker 6: So to say the millennium couldn't have happened because there's
Speaker 6: been war all throughout history. Even if we if we say, yes,
Speaker 6: there has been war throughout history, which we can't really verify,
Speaker 6: but even if we give them and concede that point,
Speaker 6: that's not what the prophecy is saying when you really
Speaker 6: look at it closely and examine it. So it takes
Speaker 6: more than a weekend to try to figure this out,
Speaker 6: like it took me like three months to realize the
Speaker 6: Earth was not a globe. And had I given up
Speaker 6: at any point and just gone back to the science.
Speaker 5: Channel for for my knowledge, I would have never gotten there.
Speaker 5: So you can't go to the history books.
Speaker 6: You can't go to establish mainstream science or history or
Speaker 6: geology or anthropology.
Speaker 5: And expect to be told the truth.
Speaker 6: Those people, if they're doing their best and if they're
Speaker 6: really honest, they're not being told the truth, and then
Speaker 6: they're relaying the live that they've been taught. So we
Speaker 6: need to go to people that we trust in the community.
Speaker 6: We need to go to the scripture first and foremost,
Speaker 6: what do the prophecies actually.
Speaker 5: Say, not what do we think they say, and.
Speaker 6: Bread them for what it is. Research the words and
Speaker 6: the Greek and the Hebrew, get the context, realize that
Speaker 6: it was not written to us, and go from there.
Speaker 6: And I think when we do that, the preponderance of
Speaker 6: the evidence shows that we are after a thousand years
Speaker 6: when Satan has been released. I think that's where it shipped.
Speaker 6: I could be wrong, but I could also be wrong
Speaker 6: about cosmology. And in the same way that it's going
Speaker 6: to take an awful big something or some things to
Speaker 6: convince me that I'm on a globe, it's going to
Speaker 6: take an awful lot of big somethings to convince me
Speaker 6: that we are still waiting for the second Coming of Christ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for me, it was starting to realize, like, like
Speaker 4: I interview people and you know, biblical cosmology is the
Speaker 4: first rabbit hole that they come upon, which was shocking
Speaker 4: for me because I needed to see all the other
Speaker 4: lies to understand how the matrix truly works and that
Speaker 4: everything was a lie. There was zero chance that I
Speaker 4: would have ever taken the time to research that first.
Speaker 4: You know, I did the normal route JFK right that
Speaker 4: the moon landing, And even with that, I should mention
Speaker 4: now how most people in the truth community understand that
Speaker 4: the you know, man's greatest accomplishment, according to the history books,
Speaker 4: is that man left Earth, you know, flew two hundred
Speaker 4: and thirty nine air quotes for listeners, two hundred and
Speaker 4: thirty nine thousand miles to the moon and played golf,
Speaker 4: wrote a buggy and everything else and safely reach earned
Speaker 4: when if you just read Genesis one to one through
Speaker 4: Genesis to to one, you'll understand that it's just not possible.
Speaker 4: But backtracking to what I was just saying, how people
Speaker 4: are willing and even in this day and age, the
Speaker 4: moon landing is a water cooler conversation you can have,
Speaker 4: you know, on your break at work, have a conversation
Speaker 4: about JFK or the moon landing, and nobody's really gonna
Speaker 4: call you a crazy conspiracy theorist because that's just accepted
Speaker 4: as normal conversation. However, if you go to the water
Speaker 4: cooler and start talking about you know, hey, I think
Speaker 4: the globe is a lie, and you know, talk about satellites,
Speaker 4: then you'll be noted as crazy.
Speaker 2: I think that is. You know, this is just, for
Speaker 2: lack of a better.
Speaker 4: Word, the brilliance of you know, you could just call
Speaker 4: it Satan's matrix that he has created. And it's multifaceted, right,
Speaker 4: everything from Hollywood to mold your mind to think a
Speaker 4: certain way, to have you working fifty sixty seventy hours
Speaker 4: a day, all the actions that keep you from you know,
Speaker 4: keeping your mind in the Bible and spreading the Gospel
Speaker 4: of Jesus, which we are commanded to do and go
Speaker 4: down the route of truth. And like you said, right,
Speaker 4: not the history books. And we send our children off
Speaker 4: to these and I'm not listen, I'm just saying, your
Speaker 4: children go to school as mine does, and you know
Speaker 4: we homeschool, but still the system we use has the
Speaker 4: same stories in it. But we also, hey, watch this video,
Speaker 4: watch my lunch break watch you know, the Founded Earth
Speaker 4: Brothers and still you know, kind of show the lie
Speaker 4: read the Bible. And I think that is the biggest
Speaker 4: part of it, is the system that they've created, like
Speaker 4: you said, from falsifying the history books to like I
Speaker 4: use this example all the time, Lewis, that movie Contagion
Speaker 4: back in twenty twelve was to kind of get your mind,
Speaker 4: to prime your mind from when twenty twenty came around,
Speaker 4: you would say, oh my gosh, germs bad. I You know,
Speaker 4: they do all this stuff to psychologically manipulate your mind.
Speaker 4: And people do need to read the word of the Bible,
Speaker 4: and if they did, they'd understand that Satan's you know,
Speaker 4: most effective weapon is deception, and we account we encounter
Speaker 4: his deception, you know, dozens of times on a daily basis.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he does not rest day or night, going to
Speaker 6: and fro throughout the earth like he's looking for people
Speaker 6: to devour.
Speaker 5: Like there's no joke. That's a real thing. And this
Speaker 5: I think.
Speaker 6: I thought cosmology was the greatest conspiracy, but the more
Speaker 6: I look at it, I really think it's this because
Speaker 6: this ties in everything together, because you need cosmology to
Speaker 6: understand this. In some way like, it's all, it's part
Speaker 6: of it. I should you don't need to understand it,
Speaker 6: but it is. It is a facet of it. So
Speaker 6: I really do think this is the greatest conspiracy of
Speaker 6: all because it ties everything together.
Speaker 5: Right, So we have like, who are we? Right? He's
Speaker 5: lied about all these things? Right? So who are we?
Speaker 6: The lie is that we're a cosmic accident, a product
Speaker 6: of random evolution. We're not special, we have no purpose,
Speaker 6: right when the truth is we are children of the Almighty,
Speaker 6: beautifully and wonderfully made in his own image.
Speaker 5: It says, how are we? Like? How are we supposed
Speaker 5: to live? The lie is, just do what you want.
Speaker 6: There's no consequences, really, like eternally, you're just gonna go
Speaker 6: back to dust and then it doesn't you know if
Speaker 6: you're a good person or a bad person. So don't
Speaker 6: live a certain way, Just do what you want. The
Speaker 6: truth is we are supposed to live in faith and obedience,
Speaker 6: bringing forth fruit that glorifies God. Like, that's how we're
Speaker 6: supposed to live. So again, why are we no higher purpose?
Speaker 6: You only live once you've lived your best life. Go
Speaker 6: get yours while you can. Doesn't matter who you step
Speaker 6: on to get there. The truth is why.
Speaker 5: Are we here?
Speaker 6: We're here to fear God and keep his commandments the
Speaker 6: plant seeds, to spread the gospel, the good news of
Speaker 6: Jesus and the Kingdom, to walk in righteous obedience with
Speaker 6: Jesus Christ and with God. Like, that's why we are here.
Speaker 6: So what are we? Right again, we're monkeys?
Speaker 1: Like?
Speaker 5: Are are we slime that has evolved?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 5: Are we even gentiles? Are we?
Speaker 6: Just like I think that we are again, I've said it,
Speaker 6: We're created beings. But even past that, what are we?
Speaker 6: We are covenant members of the Commonwealth of Israel. Once
Speaker 6: we believe, we are grafted in to the olive tree,
Speaker 6: and that's where we want to be. We don't want
Speaker 6: to be on the outside. And so then where are we?
Speaker 6: We are an insignificant planet. We are an insignificant planet
Speaker 6: around a nondescript star and the outskirts of a common galaxy,
Speaker 6: among countless others. You know, no special place in the universe,
Speaker 6: no special place even in our own galaxy or in
Speaker 6: our own solar system. The truth is we are the
Speaker 6: center of creation. Right We're on the surface of this
Speaker 6: place with an underworld below us, founded on waters over
Speaker 6: the bottomless pit. We have the heavens above, we have
Speaker 6: containers with the luminaries and water with Yeah, the God
Speaker 6: the most high, at the highest level of creation. And
Speaker 6: then outside of this, whatever this thing is, outside of
Speaker 6: this is outer darkness, a place of the most unimaginable.
Speaker 6: We don't want to be there, right, fire and just
Speaker 6: we don't want to be brimstone. So then the last
Speaker 6: one is when are we? So we know he's lied
Speaker 6: about all those other ones, and I don't think anyone
Speaker 6: would really have a problem with that, But then when
Speaker 6: are we?
Speaker 5: People push back, right, the lie is two thousand years
Speaker 5: after the advent of Christ, we're still waiting.
Speaker 6: For his return. That's the line. The truth is, I
Speaker 6: think that we are past that.
Speaker 5: There was no two thousand years in between.
Speaker 6: The seven hundred years was added to the timeline, plus
Speaker 6: the one thousand years plus the little season, and that
Speaker 6: takes us to where we are. I kind of think
Speaker 6: that's the when we are, And it's being revealed slowly,
Speaker 6: the same way that the cosmology was. It's person by persons,
Speaker 6: it's spirit talking to one person talking to another person.
Speaker 6: Go research it, go look at it, and then all
Speaker 6: of a sudden, how God works amazingly. Now you can't
Speaker 6: unsee it. You look at something and you're like, wow,
Speaker 6: how did I ever think that was something else? I
Speaker 6: now understand what I'm looking at. And it's the same
Speaker 6: thing with the history. It's really hard to unsee when
Speaker 6: you look at something and you're like, like you said,
Speaker 6: the Grand Canyon, or like when you look at Wyoming
Speaker 6: and Idaho in that area, when you look at it
Speaker 6: from far high enough, it looks like the finger of
Speaker 6: God came and just like just scooped out the rocky mountains.
Speaker 6: And you see the same thing in the Himalayan Mountains
Speaker 6: in like the Gobi Desert northeast China area or northeast
Speaker 6: of the Himalaya Mountains, there's just a scoop taken out
Speaker 6: of it. The middle of California, it's like he dragged
Speaker 6: his finger down and just split it and just gone.
Speaker 6: And to me, that is the day of the Lord.
Speaker 6: Those are the judgments, like when we look at it
Speaker 6: from high enough and from far enough away, like you
Speaker 6: may not be able to see that a mountain range,
Speaker 6: like when you're on the ground looking at it, you
Speaker 6: can see little hills off of the distance, but when
Speaker 6: you get high enough away from it, you know, from
Speaker 6: God's point of view looking down on it, you can say, oh,
Speaker 6: that whole continent was judged, Like all of Siberia and
Speaker 6: all of Argentina. It's pock marked, like it just just
Speaker 6: holes everywhere that have now filled with water, and there's
Speaker 6: little lakes everywhere, and like, wow, that whole country, that
Speaker 6: whole area was judged.
Speaker 5: It's not a small little thing in a you know,
Speaker 5: in a region of the Middle East, like it's everywhere.
Speaker 6: So you know, the Sahara Desert, for example, when we
Speaker 6: look at old maps and things and old old testimonies,
Speaker 6: who knows how much of that is real that we
Speaker 6: can rely on, but.
Speaker 5: Those were that was a populated area that was not
Speaker 5: giant desert.
Speaker 6: And even in I think twenty fourteen, I want to
Speaker 6: say they did like you know, they used radar to
Speaker 6: look beneath the sand and they saw all these river
Speaker 6: beds and it would look like human settlements that were
Speaker 6: there very recently. And we're told the Sahara Desert it's
Speaker 6: like two hundred and eighty thousand.
Speaker 5: Years old or whatever. They say.
Speaker 6: It's like, well, if we know it's not that old,
Speaker 6: because none of nothing is that old right, so like
Speaker 6: where did it come from?
Speaker 5: The Ice ages? Right? Where did that come from? Where
Speaker 5: is that? Biblically the Pangaea.
Speaker 6: Continental drift, Like it's not happening slowly over millions and
Speaker 6: billions of years.
Speaker 5: So we really, you know, if we want to have
Speaker 5: answers for the non believers.
Speaker 6: Explain the ice ages, Explain continental drift, Explain volcanoes, super volcanoes,
Speaker 6: and all of these things, like where did they come from?
Speaker 6: I think the most logical answer is that was the
Speaker 6: judgment upon the Earth. Right in Revelation it says every
Speaker 6: island and mountain is going to flee from its place.
Speaker 6: That kind of sounds like the Atlantic Ocean opening and
Speaker 6: the land splitting apart, and Australia pulling down and India
Speaker 6: moving up, like all these things happening in the world
Speaker 6: like that don't really fit into a four thousand and
Speaker 6: six thousand year biblical timeline, like when did it happen?
Speaker 6: When did the Ice ages happen? Is that this just
Speaker 6: my opinion. All of this is just my opinion, But
Speaker 6: I kind of think that the Ice Age is when
Speaker 6: it says part of the judgment on the Last Day
Speaker 6: is giant hail hailstones that fall all over the earth
Speaker 6: that are like, you know, hundreds of pounds giant hailstones,
Speaker 6: so when they fall, they build up upon each other.
Speaker 6: Now you have ice sheets, right that were that just
Speaker 6: form and cover the land. It's icy ice everywhere and
Speaker 6: under the sun. The sun goes directly overhead the tropical regions,
Speaker 6: that ice is gonna melt towards the polar regions, that
Speaker 6: ice is not gonna melt quite so fast, right, And
Speaker 6: so we're just seeing the ice proceed and recede and recede.
Speaker 6: I kind of think it was all one event that
Speaker 6: the ice ages, as it's called, was the day of
Speaker 6: the Lord, the hail falling down, and it's been slowly
Speaker 6: melting back ever since. Again that's just my opinion, but
Speaker 6: I don't see it anywhere in the scriptures anywhere else
Speaker 6: that there's a bunch of ice on the earth. So again, volcanoes,
Speaker 6: same thing. This one blew my mind recently that if
Speaker 6: you look back into history, the first recorded volcano was
Speaker 6: Mount Vesuvius in seventy six AD.
Speaker 5: Were there no volcanoes on Earth before that? Like, it's not.
Speaker 6: Mentioned in the scriptures anywhere else. You can see it
Speaker 6: prophesied in Revelation that John seems to be describing a volcano,
Speaker 6: but Moses doesn't talk about it. I say it, jerem.
Speaker 6: No one in the other prophets prophesy volcanoes, like if
Speaker 6: no one's describing it. And even in secular history, looking back,
Speaker 6: nobody did cave paintings of volcanoes. None of the Babylonians
Speaker 6: wrote about volcanoes. So is that the opening? Like did
Speaker 6: that happen at the day of the Lord? And there
Speaker 6: were no volcanoes before that? You know, when we just
Speaker 6: kind of think that the Middle East was always desert,
Speaker 6: like I mentioned the Sahara, but even the Promised Land,
Speaker 6: that's a land flowing with milk and honey, it doesn't
Speaker 6: look like that today.
Speaker 5: It's in the Exodus. The wilderness.
Speaker 6: We think of a desert for a wilderness, but like
Speaker 6: the Alaskan wilderness, we describe it the wilderness of Maine,
Speaker 6: like this could be described as a wilderness behind me,
Speaker 6: like it's just a non populated area.
Speaker 5: So we're trained to believe.
Speaker 6: That people were operating in a desert climate throughout all
Speaker 6: of history because that's what it looks like. Now, when
Speaker 6: really does it look like that because they did not
Speaker 6: go up through the feast of Tabernacles and they didn't
Speaker 6: receive any rain. Was that why the Tahara formed? Is
Speaker 6: that why Saudi Arabia and all these places are just
Speaker 6: covered in sand? And because they didn't go up for
Speaker 6: the feasts of tabernacles. That was the children of Ishmael,
Speaker 6: and they, you know, they didn't go up. They refused
Speaker 6: to go if they were rebellious, and their land turned
Speaker 6: to dust as it says. So I could be wrong
Speaker 6: about all of this, but you know, what we see
Speaker 6: has to fit like we can't just ignore our physical
Speaker 6: senses and the evidence in the world. So, you know,
Speaker 6: how do we describe these things and where do they
Speaker 6: all fit in? If the answer is not millions and
Speaker 6: billions of years slowly over time, well then the other,
Speaker 6: you know, seems to be shortly. There was short amount
Speaker 6: of time. It happened rapidly. Well, when biblically does that happen?
Speaker 6: We only have a few examples.
Speaker 5: We have flood and really kind of you know, the
Speaker 5: separate judgments here and there.
Speaker 6: Upon lands as y'as fed up with their disobedience. But
Speaker 6: other than that, the only time the world old is
Speaker 6: judged is the return of Christ. So the destruction that
Speaker 6: we see everywhere, it's hard for me to say all
Speaker 6: of that only happened at the flood. And then it's
Speaker 6: been four thousand years and really there's been no weathering,
Speaker 6: nothing's really changed all that much on it, and you
Speaker 6: know what happened right after the flood. That's kind of
Speaker 6: what we see, I don't think, so we see most
Speaker 6: of the mountain ranges actually appear to be formed by vibration.
Speaker 6: Like if you take sand and dirt and stuff and
Speaker 6: just kind of shake it and put the right frequency
Speaker 6: through it. I forget the name off the top of
Speaker 6: my head, but it just kind of forms patterns and
Speaker 6: shade us and like that looks to be what most
Speaker 6: mountain ranges are, especially the smaller ones, the hills more
Speaker 6: than mountless themselves, but like they seem to be formed
Speaker 6: through shaking and vibration. So, yes, there were earthquakes in
Speaker 6: Uzzaiah's day. In the Old Testament talks about earthquakes, so
Speaker 6: that's not a new feature necessarily, but it seems like
Speaker 6: a lot of the features on the earth were formed
Speaker 6: by shaking. And again that's one of the things that's
Speaker 6: going to happen on the last day at the judgment.
Speaker 5: He comes and he shakes the earth.
Speaker 6: He shakes it, and the mountains fall down and the
Speaker 6: valleys come up, and like all of the different formations
Speaker 6: kind of are formed at that time through shaking. So again,
Speaker 6: that's just another geologic evidence that is out there in
Speaker 6: the world. It can be explained other ways, but it
Speaker 6: can also be explained this way.
Speaker 2: That's really interesting.
Speaker 4: But there's this one thing I wanted to clarify for
Speaker 4: the audience because when you listen to a lot of
Speaker 4: other folks whose podcasts or YouTube channels are mostly based
Speaker 4: around the Mud Flood, you know, they say that this
Speaker 4: flooding event they believed happened. You know, most people believe
Speaker 4: it happened in the eighteen hundreds. That's the term I
Speaker 4: hear the most, like the mid to late eighteen hundreds.
Speaker 4: Is your theory that just when you talk about the flood,
Speaker 4: you're just talking about Noah's flood, and our timeline is
Speaker 4: one thousand years shorter.
Speaker 2: Where do you think there was a separate event.
Speaker 6: Right when I was speaking of flood, there I met
Speaker 6: Noah's flood. I tend to think the mud flood as
Speaker 6: it is called, came about in that seventeen seventy six
Speaker 6: general area, so eighteen hundreds, late seventeen hundreds. In Revelation twelve,
Speaker 6: it talks about the dragon letting water out of his
Speaker 6: mouth to go after the remnant, those who had the
Speaker 6: testimony of Jesus and keep the commandments of God, and
Speaker 6: then the earth opens up to swallow the flood.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 6: Revelation twelve is a very symbolic chapter, so it's hard
Speaker 6: to take that super literally, but if we do take
Speaker 6: it literally, the dragon Satan gets out of his pit,
Speaker 6: he sees all of this amazing architecture all around the world, right.
Speaker 6: He says, oh, no, like the millennium happened, and look
Speaker 6: at all of this stuff that I need to destroy.
Speaker 6: And then the camp of the Saints and New Jerusalem
Speaker 6: is no longer there, but there's remnants of holy people
Speaker 6: still on the grid, not resurrected saints, but holy flesh
Speaker 6: and blood people. So he's like, Okay, I need to
Speaker 6: get rid of all this architecture. I need to get
Speaker 6: rid of all these buildings, all of these star forts,
Speaker 6: all of these things on the ground that should not
Speaker 6: be here, because none of it should be here like
Speaker 6: it just shouldn't.
Speaker 5: And then I need to kill these people.
Speaker 6: I need to Nobody can tell the rest of the
Speaker 6: world that, you know, Christ is real, he was here,
Speaker 6: and all of that stuff in the Bible is true.
Speaker 5: You need to get rid of it.
Speaker 6: So he lets out water to try to wipe the
Speaker 6: stuff away because he doesn't have original ideas. Really, you
Speaker 6: can only copy God so it doesn't wash away. And
Speaker 6: then God opens up the earth. Now I've always thought
Speaker 6: of that as like a chasm opening up and the
Speaker 6: water just kind of goes into the pit, but it
Speaker 6: could also be like a sponge, like it just opens
Speaker 6: up and absorbs the water. And if that's the case,
Speaker 6: well then if it's on a hill or on a slant,
Speaker 6: that's going to flow right the water, the newly absorbed
Speaker 6: dirt and water, that's going to turn into mud that's
Speaker 6: going to be loose and that's going to flow around.
Speaker 6: And maybe that's where the mud flood came in. And
Speaker 6: it's kind of you know, that's just my opinion, but
Speaker 6: I seem to see that could could be an answer.
Speaker 6: Or maybe when He was released, you know, it came
Speaker 6: out of the earth. And I'm not sure if the
Speaker 6: fallen angels came out with him that were in Mount
Speaker 6: Hermon in the book.
Speaker 5: Of Enfield about that book.
Speaker 6: But the watchers that are that are under the ground,
Speaker 6: maybe they come out, came out as well. And I'm
Speaker 6: from And then that through sediment into the air that
Speaker 6: formed rain, you know, that rained down the sediment and
Speaker 6: the rain, and then that was muddy.
Speaker 5: And I don't know.
Speaker 6: There's different ways to explain that, but I do think
Speaker 6: it happened after the millennium as a as a general rule.
Speaker 6: I don't know the exact details, but I would put
Speaker 6: it there in the tunneline. So we see these structures
Speaker 6: built during the millennium that are then buried up to
Speaker 6: the first and second floors, so they would have had
Speaker 6: to be built first, and then the flood came in.
Speaker 5: The mud flood came in. So I think that's where
Speaker 5: it is. Timeline was.
Speaker 4: This entire conversation has been so great, and you've brought
Speaker 4: a lot of knowledge, and you know, anytime you come
Speaker 4: upon these rabbit holes, you know you're especially you know
Speaker 4: everything we've talked about today, one can be hesitant. But
Speaker 4: I think, like you said, that is just from the
Speaker 4: things we read and you know, we've been so ingrained.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you think about it, we spend thirteen
Speaker 4: years in the school system, and we're told over and
Speaker 4: over and over, you know, these people are great, you know,
Speaker 4: you know, evolution, all these other things. And then we
Speaker 4: you know, like I was telling my pastor down and
Speaker 4: my friend he's down the street. I said, you know,
Speaker 4: we we send our children to Sunday school for an
Speaker 4: hour a week, and then they go to the public
Speaker 4: school system for you know, thirty five forty hours a week.
Speaker 4: It's a losing battle, and we really have to deconstruct
Speaker 4: and reconstruct the way we educate our children. I think
Speaker 4: that would play a big part of defeating Satan's plan.
Speaker 6: It says in the Proverbs and the Psalms, you know,
Speaker 6: raise up your child in the way of the Lord,
Speaker 6: you know, like we should not be letting someone else
Speaker 6: educate our young Like it's we're supposed to be teaching
Speaker 6: them biblical principles, you know, letting them know that about
Speaker 6: God and and and his amazing plan of redemption and
Speaker 6: all of that stuff, and not sending them off for
Speaker 6: a secular person to be teaching them things that are
Speaker 6: against what the truth is. Again, that's one of his laws,
Speaker 6: one of Satan's laws. It's just get them while they're
Speaker 6: young and convince them that their parents, that the teachers
Speaker 6: are more important than the parents, and they're they're the
Speaker 6: authority figures. And it's wicked, pure wickedness.
Speaker 2: It is.
Speaker 6: It makes me mad, but shortly to come to an end,
Speaker 6: you know, when this is not a forever thing, yep,
Speaker 6: and that is that's you know, this whole thing. It
Speaker 6: can it can be kind of right to realize that
Speaker 6: we are so far removed from the truth that even
Speaker 6: like the simple thing like what happened in our recent
Speaker 6: past might not be true.
Speaker 5: So it can get depressing, it can get a little daunting.
Speaker 5: But the good news is still the good news.
Speaker 6: Right just because we may have missed out on the
Speaker 6: millennial reign, we're still going to get eternity if we
Speaker 6: if we you know, believe in Yeshia Jesus, if we
Speaker 6: behave the way that he wants us to in obedience
Speaker 6: to the instructions, and we have the faith that is required.
Speaker 6: You know, if we're doing those things, we're going to
Speaker 6: be judged at the White Throne as worthy. Come, you know,
Speaker 6: come in my good and faithful servant. We're going to
Speaker 6: receive the kingdom as an inheritance. So none of that
Speaker 6: changes our whether whether I'm completely wrong and all of
Speaker 6: this stuff is still in the future, our obligation is
Speaker 6: the same.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 6: We still have to live our lives as if today
Speaker 6: is our last. And everyone that comes in contact with
Speaker 6: us should see the light of Christ in us, and
Speaker 6: they should want what we have. They should be like, hey,
Speaker 6: that person is not miserable and stressed out and depressed
Speaker 6: and you know at their at their wits end with
Speaker 6: the world, Like what's different about them? Why are they
Speaker 6: behaving that way that they are? And that gives us
Speaker 6: witness an opportunity to witness the gospel. So you know,
Speaker 6: walk it out, bring forth fruit, and whatever the time is,
Speaker 6: then you know when we are when we are called
Speaker 6: back and we're taken from this earth, we'll hopefully, you know,
Speaker 6: if all that goes well, he will bring us in
Speaker 6: to the Kingdom and you know, we get to spend
Speaker 6: time with Him and I can't wait. I really look
Speaker 6: forward to that day. So the timeline, it's important. We
Speaker 6: should always believe the truth. We should always strive for
Speaker 6: what is correct and not just settle back and believe
Speaker 6: things that are false. I don't think that he's happy
Speaker 6: with that. Always strive for the truth, and part of
Speaker 6: that is recognizing deception when it comes along.
Speaker 2: Well, Lewis, I can't thank you enough for it is.
Speaker 6: It is really an awakening and he's bringing y'ah. Our
Speaker 6: father is bringing this out now and he wants us
Speaker 6: to know. Sorry, I think I'm delayed again.
Speaker 2: Sorry, you're good, You're good.
Speaker 4: Yeah, No, I just wanted to thank you so much
Speaker 4: for coming on and explaining, you know, Revelation twenty. You've
Speaker 4: obviously put a lot of thought and research into it,
Speaker 4: and it is important to know where we are and
Speaker 4: like you had said, the what, when, where, why, and
Speaker 4: we obviously know what the why. But it's just such
Speaker 4: a great podcast and I can't thank you enough for
Speaker 4: sharing your knowledge.
Speaker 2: And I also wanted to take.
Speaker 4: A moment and thank Julie, who was the one who
Speaker 4: sent me your contact information and sent me some of
Speaker 4: your work which was so intriguing, and most importantly, it's
Speaker 4: nice to connect with a fellow follower of Christ. So
Speaker 4: if you'd like to close once again, remind people where
Speaker 4: they can find your work, any websites, emails and I'll
Speaker 4: be sure to include them in the show notes as well.
Speaker 6: Yeah, thank you for inviting me. Thank you Julie, and
Speaker 6: I think she found me on the Josh Monday podcast.
Speaker 6: So thanks to Josh as well for giving me an
Speaker 6: opportunity to speak on his show. Yep, it's a really
Speaker 6: good brother there. I just emailed him and said, I
Speaker 6: think the spirit wants me to speak. I feel I'm
Speaker 6: being led to reach out to you. And he's like,
Speaker 6: that's it, okay, cool, come on, like no questions asked.
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm not standing in the way if the
Speaker 6: spirit's doing something. So he's really great. But yeah, thank
Speaker 6: you for having me on, and I'll send you all
Speaker 6: my information you put in the show notes.
Speaker 5: I only have a YouTube and.
Speaker 6: Email is the best way to get in touch with me,
Speaker 6: so i'll send you that as well. So I don't
Speaker 6: really check the comments. Just too much negativity.
Speaker 2: Likewise, I learned that.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 4: Thank you again, God bless you and be safe. Thanks
Speaker 4: again for sharing your knowledge, and again, folks, please do
Speaker 4: check the show notes. I'll have his YouTube channel and
Speaker 4: his email address if you would like to reach out,
Speaker 4: and of course, if you were a fellow podcaster, and
Speaker 4: you would like him to spread the word, send him
Speaker 4: an email, he replied very quickly. And I can't thank
Speaker 4: you enough for your time, sir, Thank you, and God
Speaker 4: bless you.
Speaker 5: Same to you, thank you, God bless and.
Speaker 4: To all our listeners, God bless you. Keep your head
Speaker 4: on a swivel. And until we meet again, my friends,
Speaker 4: we will see you.
Speaker 2: I know it's been a struggle. I don't know you've
Speaker 2: had spain.
Speaker 7: I not feeling tired. Hell down all the way?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you feel them all you smile and
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 7: As well. Go feel like you've lost your way. Don't
Speaker 7: give up.
Speaker 1: No, don't give in and nevers home. Don't let all
Speaker 1: the primise.
Speaker 2: It ain't done yet. He's God, I'm playing. Why it's
Speaker 2: a right time?
Speaker 1: Got up? Let me come? Why afraid coming up?
Speaker 2: Timid?
Speaker 7: I can see the street beside you.
Speaker 1: Child's are putting up fid.
Speaker 8: Oh, you're stronger than anything, you guy. You're gonna be
Speaker 8: all right. You're accepting a dead ni beautiful.
Speaker 2: You're shoving ride.
Speaker 8: Yeah you listen, breathe move, you can hold you head
Speaker 8: of ye.
Speaker 1: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never los home,
Speaker 1: don't they go on the primise, it ain't done yet.
Speaker 1: This god a clay, why some rain tell the God
Speaker 1: of me comes. Don't give up, No, don't give in.
Speaker 1: You never love home, don't let go on the primis.
Speaker 1: It ain't come life, It's worth live. Man, why's a
Speaker 1: way town? The god of baby call? Why surprise now? God?
Speaker 1: Oh yes, why surprise now? The god it came? Oh yeah, gott.
Speaker 7: Don't give up, No, don't give in, never lose hol
Speaker 7: do they go of the primis?
Speaker 1: I man that done?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 3: This got up playing waits and ring do kind of
Speaker 3: evey cops and don't.
Speaker 2: Give up it no dog given whatever its hold.
Speaker 7: Don't let go of the primes.
Speaker 3: It ain't done.
Speaker 2: Love's wor they eveh Wat's the.
Speaker 3: God of every cos oh, the god of need cos
Speaker 3: wsdum God.
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Speaker 6: Just the facts, ma'am,