Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. So here's the thing. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Everybody in Tuesday. Welcome to the Giant Podcast. I have
Speaker 1: your host for this week, Nikki Grayson, with me as always,
Speaker 1: I have a cavalcade of chuckle fucks, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about video games. But I'm just want
Speaker 1: to walk us all through what happened. Sean goes, listen,
Speaker 1: you know where the key is the music will happen.
Speaker 1: You're watching the stream, right, And I said absolutely, But yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. I click on the stream, the music starts
Speaker 1: for two seconds and then I get a big error
Speaker 1: on the scream that says streaming pause dermashun has minimize
Speaker 1: the application sit.
Speaker 2: Well, that's it. That's it for me. I came back
Speaker 2: for a second. I was, I came back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but welcome.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the music went through everyone at home.
Speaker 1: That's all that matters is that we made it here
Speaker 1: together on this fine Tuesday, April eighth, at nine to
Speaker 1: eleven am. What does it mean? That's true? All facts
Speaker 1: with me, as always, this is the normal cast for
Speaker 1: the show, always has been, always has been, and always
Speaker 1: will be. I have Sean Turbashawn McDowell, Hello, Sean.
Speaker 3: Hi, as everyone knows deep within you spiritually, there are
Speaker 3: two jams. We have host Jan and producer Jan. I
Speaker 3: took both of the GB kids to uh you know,
Speaker 3: complete that jam.
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, two guys is one guy. Sometimes. I also
Speaker 1: have the bad boy of games media, Mike Manati do
Speaker 1: so many bad things.
Speaker 4: I must still be the bad boy of Gabe, Like
Speaker 4: how bad I am?
Speaker 1: Listen to my bad voice. Always say that your voice
Speaker 1: is so bad, Mike. But Michael Jackson Yeah yeah, Uh,
Speaker 1: Dan Reiker, how are you on this fine day?
Speaker 5: I'm doing all right and I'm feeling fine. I woke
Speaker 5: up and had a breakfast and coffee like always, I'm good.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude, listen. As long as you can have that,
Speaker 1: nothing bad can happen. And the continued co captain of
Speaker 1: this ship that frankly, I didn't understand why your co
Speaker 1: captaincy does not afford you the ability to become captain
Speaker 1: when the other captain is gone. I'm busy. Ah yeah, Jeff, Hi,
Speaker 1: I'm here.
Speaker 2: You said bad the Michael Jackson bad, And it took
Speaker 2: me several seconds to decode which Michael Jackson bad?
Speaker 1: We were talking about. It's kind of a.
Speaker 2: Numerous bads. Now anyway, you think, okay, so we couldn't
Speaker 2: get the UK switch to. Do you think we maybe
Speaker 2: I'm like about to call off store in.
Speaker 5: France and we Russian switch ts. We were trying to
Speaker 5: British ones. Today, I think Russians get Russian switch to. Actually,
Speaker 5: so do Russians have video games?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they get video games in this
Speaker 2: moment in time from other countries due to trade embargoes
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. They're an a war with Ukraine
Speaker 2: and so they don't usually right now.
Speaker 1: They don't get a lot of stuff.
Speaker 5: PlayStations in Russia.
Speaker 2: I think they had previously had PlayStations, but they started
Speaker 2: a new war through Ukraine. That put anyway, can't don't
Speaker 2: worry about it. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 1: Don'try about it. I'm Jaesius. Seriously, you can't. If you
Speaker 1: wanted to go to Russian best buy right now and
Speaker 1: buy a PlayStation, you couldn't. You can't do it. If
Speaker 1: you got a PlayStation from before, or a guy got
Speaker 1: you a PlayStation and brought it to you, you could
Speaker 1: probably connect it and use it.
Speaker 5: But they make PlayStations in Japan, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but the Japan likes to do business with
Speaker 2: the United States, and the United States has embargoes with
Speaker 2: countries that try to do make money from Russia right now,
Speaker 2: and we'll put you know, we'll put a like secondary
Speaker 2: embargoes on you.
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's almost like you can't just make blanket decisions
Speaker 1: kind of unilaterally for no reason because it'll have what
Speaker 1: some people can it seems so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: They also we'll talk about this in the news, but
Speaker 2: they delayed pre orders in Canada, and I'm just we
Speaker 2: stop making them hate us, Like, I know, we're doing
Speaker 2: a good job ourselves, but that's yet another reason why
Speaker 2: they're going to be unhappy with us. I don't know
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. Like, do you guys think the
Speaker 2: switch to is actually gonna make the June fifth launch date?
Speaker 1: Nope? Yeah, I think it'll make the date. I think
Speaker 1: it will also be seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's more likely. At this point, I had.
Speaker 1: No idea it's going to happen. I have no idea.
Speaker 1: It's everything's weird, yep. I will switch to though, Yeah, No,
Speaker 1: that's the thing, right, It's like you just want it
Speaker 1: would be nice to have the toy should be able
Speaker 1: to machine toy. Yeah, that would be really nice. Can
Speaker 1: I talk about holiday in for a second? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: I was in Yes, exactly. The hotel was a holiday in.
Speaker 1: I was in leverk in Utah yesterday.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 1: I went to Zion National Park.
Speaker 5: That's a great national park. I've been at.
Speaker 1: Place, fucking love it, delightful zone to be in. I
Speaker 1: was in the newest holiday in in Utah, which is
Speaker 1: the leverk in Utah holiday and which is outside of
Speaker 1: the park. Why is, Why are holiday inns like that?
Speaker 1: What's wrong? Elaborate? They feel liminal in a way that
Speaker 1: feels impossible to have designed, but a person, a team
Speaker 1: of people intentionally made them that way.
Speaker 2: You said, so, you said it's the newest holiday in
Speaker 2: holiday inn in Utah, which I think is a weird sentence.
Speaker 2: But we'll move past that part of it, the.
Speaker 1: One that it's just the one that they built and
Speaker 1: opened the most recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but just like knowing that is there's something weird,
Speaker 2: like like all holiday ends just have always been their day.
Speaker 2: It does it like still look like a holiday inn?
Speaker 2: Like have they updated this.
Speaker 1: Honestly, it looks like a hospital building. Yeah, okay, so
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, inside it that it faces to the
Speaker 1: to the where sun sets in the west. To the
Speaker 1: west it faces a big dirt lot, and then across
Speaker 1: the way you can see a supermarket and then it's
Speaker 1: the most beautiful landscape you've ever seen in your life.
Speaker 1: And then on the other on the back side, it
Speaker 1: is the second most beautiful landscape you've ever re seats
Speaker 1: in your entire life.
Speaker 2: You're describing like most holiday and like the holiday an
Speaker 2: is very nostalgic for me. That's where my family would
Speaker 2: say when we were like doing car road trips across.
Speaker 1: The you know, the Midwest.
Speaker 2: We wouldn't go very far, but like, yeah, the holiday
Speaker 2: inn is where I had the indoor outdoor pool, like
Speaker 2: you could swim under a wall and winter and it
Speaker 2: was all heated and that was really cool. And then
Speaker 2: you would swim back inside and it was just like
Speaker 2: the self contained. Like they would try to put a
Speaker 2: lot of outdoor greenery in a holiday inn, like in
Speaker 2: a space like this, but it's still had like tile everywhere,
Speaker 2: like everywhere you look, just Tilele Holiday Inn is very weird.
Speaker 2: I think the tile helps to make it feel extraliminal,
Speaker 2: like the space between places.
Speaker 5: It's the newest one, like was it like built in
Speaker 5: nineteen ninety four they finish.
Speaker 1: They finished construction at the end around the end of
Speaker 1: last year. Oh wow, yeah, it's like internet new stuff.
Speaker 1: Now they do have they have internet. The TVs don't work. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Lognet yeah, Lognet.
Speaker 2: They have Lognet in sixty four lots.
Speaker 1: God. I remember saying at the Jolly Roger in which
Speaker 1: was outside of it's outside of Disneyland, and they had
Speaker 1: the loget and sixty four and I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: this is the best day of my life. And I said, Mom,
Speaker 1: can we play it? And she said no, And I said, okay,
Speaker 1: well I think that's because its got an hour or
Speaker 1: some Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: We got in the room and my parents. But for
Speaker 2: me when I was this age, it was a super
Speaker 2: Nintendo Lodget. My parents saw that and they just knew
Speaker 2: it's like we're gonna have to get this, like sorry,
Speaker 2: like I was surprised they said yes, but they actually did.
Speaker 2: And then I played what's the Blizzard Weird Shooter with
Speaker 2: the guy Thorn Black Blackthorn Black, Yes, yeah, I played Blackthorn.
Speaker 5: I always loved like if you had like you know, uh,
Speaker 5: as a kid, you had a sleepover something and you rent,
Speaker 5: like you know, we only had Genesis in my mom's place.
Speaker 5: The Super was my dad's and so it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: I got to rent Superintendo the new you know, Mortal
Speaker 5: Combat two is great on there whatever, and they give
Speaker 5: you like a little case like an Agent forty seven cass.
Speaker 5: It's like, you know, hard backed and stuff, and you
Speaker 5: open it up and it's it's a clam show with
Speaker 5: like spots for the trollers and everything, and it's like, oh,
Speaker 5: we got three days of Super Nintendo's.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The only time I rented a console was when they
Speaker 4: did it for Dreamcast before it even came out at
Speaker 4: Hollywood Video, I believe. And that was amazing. Go back
Speaker 4: to that liminal like space thing, like like that's been
Speaker 4: the trend forever now, was just making things more and
Speaker 4: more spartan and just kind of like minimalists. And I
Speaker 4: was like, I was over it ten years ago. It's like, well,
Speaker 4: good thing about trends is that they go away eventually,
Speaker 4: and they somehow still are pushing it. I'm not expecting
Speaker 4: us to go back to the nineties where every McDonald's
Speaker 4: has like a giant statue of a chicken McNugget, and
Speaker 4: then the McDonald's itself is the shape of a chicken McNugget.
Speaker 4: I do should definitely more in that direction againstead of
Speaker 4: just everything being a white box.
Speaker 1: And wonder, let's go around the horn.
Speaker 5: How much would each of you pay for Remember the
Speaker 5: old sixty four and I think they might have done
Speaker 5: GameCube chaos at McDonald's where it's like all attached to
Speaker 5: the thing if it was a work anything with the
Speaker 5: screen for controllers. What what is the maxim amount you
Speaker 5: would pay for that? This is something I think about
Speaker 5: a lot.
Speaker 2: I would probably for dollars, Yeah, I would probably. I
Speaker 2: mean I've seen things like that. I'm the mic the
Speaker 2: Dreamcast one that you share keep showing up on three thousand.
Speaker 5: The first group that's just for kiosks and stuff like that,
Speaker 5: and it's like, man, they sell for quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I would probably go up to like twenty five hundred
Speaker 1: three twenty five hundred.
Speaker 3: Yeah, key difference for the McDonald's one, not much, but
Speaker 3: for like the stand up GameCube one like at Walmart
Speaker 3: or whatever, you know, toys R us that one probably, like, yeah,
Speaker 3: a couple of grand for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm lucky. I'm looking at a listing for
Speaker 1: on the Electronic Bay the Nintendo GameCube Kiosk replacement part controller,
Speaker 1: which is the one that has the little the soft
Speaker 1: sleeve on it. They want five thousand dollars.
Speaker 5: For ye and it's sex to because like man, I
Speaker 5: work to make it a Funko Land and GameStop from
Speaker 5: like two thousand to two thousand four and I got
Speaker 5: all of those things. I had a giant Warrior World
Speaker 5: thing that was like a warrior throwing a bunch of
Speaker 5: coins in the air that I would kill for now.
Speaker 5: And you can't move these things around there They're big
Speaker 5: and I'll come something. God, I would kill the heaven.
Speaker 4: The one thing I had, I had the Mario Galaxy
Speaker 4: one Kiosk that like did have a battery so it's
Speaker 4: spun around. It was just cardboard, but it was like,
Speaker 4: you know, three dimensions and it spun around. And I
Speaker 4: had that thing going for a while to it just
Speaker 4: eventually disintegrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so of Chets's like they think kiosks are lame?
Speaker 2: Why do I like them so much? Is it just
Speaker 2: that like when I was using them, I.
Speaker 4: Had such a like it's this desire to plays having
Speaker 4: like a vending machine in your house.
Speaker 1: Teams cool, It's like, well, that doesn't belong here. I
Speaker 1: used to a part of it.
Speaker 5: As as a kid, I would go into Blockbusters and
Speaker 5: I remember I did this for the Rock the Action film,
Speaker 5: not Dwayne and they had a big display thing and
Speaker 5: it was like three D and it was just a
Speaker 5: giant explosion with heads of Ed Harris and Nick Cage
Speaker 5: and Chunk Connery and had quote from Roger Eber that
Speaker 5: said a slam bang action thriller. And I loved it,
Speaker 5: and so I asked them. I was like, hey, when
Speaker 5: you're done with that, what do you do with it?
Speaker 5: And they're like, oh, we just throw it away. It's
Speaker 5: like can I have that? And they put my name
Speaker 5: on the back of it. And so I had that
Speaker 5: all through high school. In junior high in my room,
Speaker 5: this giant cardboard the Rock House. But they kept doing
Speaker 5: I kept going in and they just throw these things away,
Speaker 5: and so I in my room as a kid, I
Speaker 5: had all these action movie cardboard things all over my room.
Speaker 3: It was awesome.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that rules. My My grandpa used to work for
Speaker 1: Warner Brothers in like the market, like the print marketing department,
Speaker 1: and then eventually that company got spun off. So the
Speaker 1: amount of like my biggest memory is that when Destiny
Speaker 1: came out, he was like, we're printing the boxes for
Speaker 1: Destiny and I said hell yeah, and he was like,
Speaker 1: I think I'll be able to get you one. And
Speaker 1: at the time, I was like, Oh, that means I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get the game. That's awesome. I'm gonna get the
Speaker 1: fucking game. He brought me. So the Destiny one Special
Speaker 1: Edition came in a big box, like a big white box.
Speaker 1: It was maybe like maybe like thirteen or fourteen by fourteen,
Speaker 1: so it was a it was a cube, and it
Speaker 1: was supposed to it had a bag inside, and then
Speaker 1: it had like a couple of books that were like
Speaker 1: art books, and then it was supposed to have the game.
Speaker 1: It had everything in there except the game in the bag.
Speaker 1: And he brought me three of them and he was like, congratulations, No,
Speaker 1: there wasn't. It was just that was before the game
Speaker 1: code was in there. That was when you bought the
Speaker 1: special edition. They still sent you the disc whow. It
Speaker 1: was just the it was just the prayeraphernalia and none
Speaker 1: of the good stuff. And he brought me three and
Speaker 1: he was so happy. He was like, I've brought I've
Speaker 1: brought my grandchild something nice, something that they want. It's
Speaker 1: Destiny won and here's three of them. And then I said,
Speaker 1: there's no video game in here. Then I saw the
Speaker 1: video game one day. I'll not tell a sad story
Speaker 1: on this program. Does anyone want to talk about video games?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: I saw the Micraft movie. Oh shit, Oh okay, tell
Speaker 1: us do we have movie music the music to the
Speaker 1: movies with Mike Manati.
Speaker 4: Yes, that's let's get my going to come in on this.
Speaker 4: That he's getting Nicole kidman in here in the well.
Speaker 4: The kids really liked it. Okay, well you're a big kid.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's a good review. Was the funniest joke, Ah,
Speaker 1: there was.
Speaker 4: There were some jokes. There was like the hardest thing
Speaker 4: to get over was Jack Black. This is a wrestling
Speaker 4: reference that I apologize, but I think all you hear No.
Speaker 4: When Shawn Michaels fought Haul Cogan, so basically out of bitterness,
Speaker 4: Sean Michaels became a parody of himself.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly. There's not a bitterness. Sean is a dick.
Speaker 5: But also it was a pure motive of hating Whulle Cogan.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like something about Jack Black's performance and this reminded
Speaker 4: me of that, Like Jack Black became a parody like
Speaker 4: where I imagine he was doing takes and then the
Speaker 4: director somebody was like, give us more Jack Black. We
Speaker 4: need GV more like more Jack Black, Like that's what.
Speaker 1: We paid for. So then he just turned it up
Speaker 1: to fifteen. And it's the most epodoxious version.
Speaker 4: Of what Jack Black would be if he was turned
Speaker 4: out by a computer.
Speaker 5: Well that's what it feels like, like, yeah, that's just
Speaker 5: that's just life.
Speaker 1: Brother.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a wacky character.
Speaker 1: Famous guy with ideas.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's got a rule when Jack Black hays to
Speaker 2: do all that in the Zelda movie because he's like
Speaker 2: like we need him tingle Wow, ting will be great.
Speaker 5: Actuallyah go on, yeahd be the one that dances and
Speaker 5: let's you ender the fire temple.
Speaker 1: Okay on board. Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: It was a it was a dumb nonsense movie that
Speaker 4: wasn't that. Look I could I could get through it.
Speaker 4: I've seen a lot of kids movies. I definitely prefer
Speaker 4: it when I think there's a bit more for like
Speaker 4: not the kids, like, you know, it's no Lego movie,
Speaker 4: which like, whoa, I can't believe how good the Lego
Speaker 4: movie was, right, this one was like, that's exactly how good.
Speaker 4: I thought the Minecraft movie would be.
Speaker 1: So nuts because it feels like they well but I
Speaker 1: guess also, the Lego movie didn't make a bajillion dollars
Speaker 1: actually did it? Oh so why just make the Lego movie? Well,
Speaker 1: because this one's also.
Speaker 4: Making even more money I think this one's doing. And
Speaker 4: I mean, like again, like my especially my one niece
Speaker 4: who really likes Minecraft, was ecstatic and you know, it's like, oh,
Speaker 4: I cadd all the references and she was telling me
Speaker 4: about them, smiled spoiler for the post credit scene here,
Speaker 4: but what it's.
Speaker 3: Fuck a post credits That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, how can Minecraft have a post credit scene?
Speaker 2: You're upset that it's just Minecraft and not that like
Speaker 2: he's spoiling something.
Speaker 4: I thought you were upset about that, all right? How
Speaker 4: incredible that. I was like, what could this possibly be?
Speaker 4: And then it happened, and oh boy, the kids were excited, like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, I can't believe they like.
Speaker 1: It's basically that I'm like loose tails for by Craft,
Speaker 1: and I guess there's an answer for that question. Who
Speaker 1: is the Alex or something? No one cares, No one.
Speaker 4: Look at christ Wow, Okay, that's on you, that's not
Speaker 4: on spoiler Jason Momoa's character was basically just Armacgregan from Nubes.
Speaker 1: Screenshot is not real. The screenshot that I'm looking at
Speaker 1: on Forbes dot com is fake. Show me, I'll confirm, deny,
Speaker 1: cannot be confirm or deny, show me.
Speaker 3: Just say it.
Speaker 2: This is a picture. Jennifer Coolidge, Oh, I just like God,
Speaker 2: it's the New York Alex.
Speaker 1: It's the HD thing.
Speaker 2: That's oh yeah, Yeah, she's in the movie a lot.
Speaker 1: She doesn't go to.
Speaker 4: So that's a publicity. She dates one of the weird villagers,
Speaker 4: were the ones with the dank dick knows Yeah she
Speaker 4: I guess, Yes, she has a romantic tryst with one of.
Speaker 5: Them, just as Marlene, a human woman who falls in
Speaker 5: love with a Minecraft villager.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she was kind of funny. Sometimes the bit went
Speaker 1: on too long. The bit went on too long, but
Speaker 1: there is something there. In the end credit scene, Steve
Speaker 1: returns to the real world and visits the house he abandoned.
Speaker 1: The new owner welcomes him inside, and though her face
Speaker 1: is never shown, she you were building tension. She introduces
Speaker 1: herself as Alex, making her the second defense player's skin
Speaker 1: to appear in the film with.
Speaker 4: His mom is now Alex is just like the he
Speaker 4: goes back to the real world, the new owner of
Speaker 4: the house.
Speaker 5: The new owner of the house, which the real world
Speaker 5: like like that Trehouse of Horror where Homer goes into
Speaker 5: the real world and gets a sexy cake.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 4: Steve is from the real world, but he went to
Speaker 4: minecraft world for a long time, but then he goes
Speaker 4: back to the real world.
Speaker 1: Wait to see Mario Mario's Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.
Speaker 1: In the real world. It's an except like he shouted
Speaker 1: a rock and then other people get Also.
Speaker 5: He stilln't completely but so it's like real people, real footage.
Speaker 5: Is that the real world?
Speaker 1: Do you know what? Yea yeah? Wait yeah, do you
Speaker 1: know nothing about Do you haven't seen a trailer for
Speaker 1: this movie? What do you think it is? Okay, what
Speaker 1: happens to? What happens in this A.
Speaker 5: Bunch of cg I think Jack Black is an actual
Speaker 5: guy that gets I think it's Mario, but Jack Black
Speaker 5: gets pulled into a Minecraft world and everyone else's blocks
Speaker 5: and animals are blocks and music guy with a beard.
Speaker 1: That's right. That's all right, Dan, if you ever want
Speaker 1: to go to is just go. It's a Jumanji.
Speaker 5: It's a I forget. They got pulled into a boardin right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got pulled into a different world. That's
Speaker 2: all that matters. Yeah, okay, I get it.
Speaker 1: Some Mario. Yeah, it's like.
Speaker 5: Just yes, absolutely, somebody who has a Last Action Hero
Speaker 5: that's a direct for me, Like Last Action Hero.
Speaker 2: That's reverse. I guess the kid does go in the movie, so.
Speaker 5: Totally, and then Jack Spader comes into the real world.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. I saw the Mario movie four times
Speaker 1: in theaters. I think I did, but I don't remember
Speaker 1: literally any of it. Powers before he went in, No,
Speaker 1: just the power of Italian is just okay. So but
Speaker 1: he couldn't even jump weird or anything like that.
Speaker 4: No, there's nothing special about him except gumption until that
Speaker 4: moment I believe gets superdumption or moxi.
Speaker 1: So there's.
Speaker 5: So there's no is there any examples of like an
Speaker 5: actual east Kie that happened.
Speaker 1: Stop, guys, Dan, what are you asking?
Speaker 5: Well, I don't know the parameters of easty kai.
Speaker 1: So it's like.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying I know. No one in real life
Speaker 5: has been pulled into like an alternate universe.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if.
Speaker 5: I if you hit me in the head with a
Speaker 5: frying pan and I woke up in.
Speaker 1: Peru, is that an easy kai.
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 5: But at the place, I don't know?
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's irrelevant.
Speaker 3: It's literally or other world.
Speaker 5: Okay, Well the guy in the world is another country.
Speaker 1: Guys, they didn't get sucked there. They went there very deliberately.
Speaker 5: Apo the moon. Okay, So what if you hit me
Speaker 5: in the head of the frying pan and I woke
Speaker 5: up on the moon?
Speaker 2: I okay, are you aware that the moon exists and
Speaker 2: every night? But I mean, I know, but when you
Speaker 2: wake up from the because I think if you woke
Speaker 2: up from the frying pan hit and you lost memory
Speaker 2: of all these things, I think you could make an
Speaker 2: argument that it was Kai like but like no, if
Speaker 2: you like yes, if he would like had ambution complete ambution,
Speaker 2: didn't know where he was, and he was discovering the
Speaker 2: world for the first time, those are all aspects of
Speaker 2: what East guy's trying to get across.
Speaker 5: He's not Actually, can time be an easy ky? Like
Speaker 5: was black Knight?
Speaker 1: Martin Lawrence? Ye, black black Knights?
Speaker 3: Yes, times, alternate reality, alternate reality, that's the phrase you
Speaker 3: need to know. No, no, you trying to tell me
Speaker 3: about anime, Jeff grub you trying to tell me about anime?
Speaker 1: Kind of Yeah.
Speaker 2: The term definitely gets used for kid in King Garthur's
Speaker 2: Court and a Yankee or whatever it was when the
Speaker 2: guy originally wrote it, Yeah, or like enchanted.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that's definitely an.
Speaker 1: For girls play the video game music.
Speaker 2: Darkness A darkness is an easy ky, Yes, Harvey, darkness
Speaker 2: isn't he's a guy?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah it was fine. I guess I don't
Speaker 4: want to watch that movie again. Whatever it was, maybe
Speaker 4: less than fine. Talking about Minecraft ship Dan would hate it, well,
Speaker 4: I think I did not like it, and I think
Speaker 4: everyone else would like it much less than me.
Speaker 5: I don't have any ill will towards Minecraft. I've enjoyed Minecraft.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you liked Some on the right
Speaker 1: side and the guy that made it him, I don't know.
Speaker 4: There's no references nobody shut up with that stupid Fedora.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.
Speaker 4: They were desperately trying to get a Jack Black catchphrase
Speaker 4: across uh.
Speaker 1: That was kind of trying to get over.
Speaker 4: He kept saying sneak attack and like doing a thing,
Speaker 4: and at the times it would not be sneaky or
Speaker 4: even an attack. He kept saying that before he would
Speaker 4: do things. And that was I know all the kids
Speaker 4: are freaking out about Chicken Jockey and I don't understand that.
Speaker 4: And that's that's that's just where I am right now.
Speaker 4: There's a scene Jack Chicken Jal. There's a little mutant
Speaker 4: kid who is on a chicken in Minecraft and Jason
Speaker 4: wants to fight him, and like, Jack Black's biggest job
Speaker 4: in the movie is to say the names of the
Speaker 4: things that appear on the screen for the audience, like
Speaker 4: like no, not joking, like sneak in a flask. Every
Speaker 4: it's like Jack Black, so that's an ender pearl, or
Speaker 4: like that's a creeper, and like that's he has the
Speaker 4: entire time. But when the Chicken Jockey shows up, he
Speaker 4: has this deliveries like Chicken Jockey, and for some reason,
Speaker 4: all the all the zoomers and younger than zoomers think
Speaker 4: this is the greatest thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Well, because the chicken Jockey's rare. It's a rare drop,
Speaker 1: it's a rare it's a rare mob Yeah, pop hard Okay,
Speaker 1: wait sorry, did they die in it and come back?
Speaker 1: Does anyone die in it and come back? Like you
Speaker 1: can't mind? Like the people?
Speaker 4: You know, there's no, no, the people don't die. They
Speaker 4: kill a lot of the pigs and they don't seem
Speaker 4: too upset about it, and some other things seem to die.
Speaker 4: But only minecraft people died. The humans are They have
Speaker 4: souls and are protected ansumers like thirty.
Speaker 1: Now are No, they're getting there at the oldest are you?
Speaker 1: I'm on the cusp? But while I think, what whene
Speaker 1: were you born? John?
Speaker 3: Same as your ninety five.
Speaker 1: Okay, but when in the year ah manh yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: a I was born at the end of ninety five.
Speaker 3: They like expanded it out further though it's like yeah,
Speaker 3: two years.
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we are. We are the youngest millennials
Speaker 1: on the cusp of gen Z. My sister, the old
Speaker 1: generation generation messed up.
Speaker 2: Old people in our generation do this movement when we're
Speaker 2: exciting Okay.
Speaker 1: We're not pumping their youngest gen Z or the oldest
Speaker 1: gen Z I think is like twenty seven right now,
Speaker 1: or like twenty twenty five, twenty in between twenty five
Speaker 1: and twenty seven, depending on how you do the math.
Speaker 5: And jaz zoomers. And then Alpha's Alpha.
Speaker 1: Yes, and they will literally have a generation of Beta's folks.
Speaker 1: It's time to talk about Blueprints. You've got three folks
Speaker 1: on the podcast who have played it, well, four didn't
Speaker 1: like it, which is fine and fair and allowed. I
Speaker 1: was told that the game worked on the Macintosh. It doesn't,
Speaker 1: so I haven't played it yet, but please tell me
Speaker 1: about the game. I still don't think I understand what
Speaker 1: it is.
Speaker 5: It's hard to explain, isn't it fellas a little bit Yest's.
Speaker 1: Look, explain what people explain? What you think it is?
Speaker 3: It's pipe dream with the witness.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. It's a deck building roguelike card game
Speaker 1: that you live inside of, is what it is. It's
Speaker 1: it's it's run based.
Speaker 2: You have a playfield that you walk through, so it's
Speaker 2: not like a playfield you're placing cards in. You walk
Speaker 2: into the first room, there's three doors. You pick one
Speaker 2: of those doors, and then you are given three random
Speaker 2: cards from your deck that represent rooms, and then you
Speaker 2: walk into that room and it has certain elements in
Speaker 2: it that can do things for you for other puzzles.
Speaker 2: But you are doing this with the goal of getting
Speaker 2: to a forty sixth room. It's a nine by five
Speaker 2: playfield where like where you're building out the house and
Speaker 2: you go in room by room and trying to get
Speaker 2: to the end, and you'll discover there's a lot more
Speaker 2: to it than that. Every room's got some peculiarity to
Speaker 2: it where it can teach you more about the world.
Speaker 2: And then there are so many more layers and layers
Speaker 2: and layers of puzzles on top of all of what
Speaker 2: I just described there. But it does not make that
Speaker 2: obvious when you first start playing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are persistent things that happen where it's
Speaker 5: like because it's easy at first to just kind of
Speaker 5: keep going and being like, all right, I guess am
Speaker 5: I just trying to get to the end here. Okay,
Speaker 5: well nope, I had a dead end. I guess I'll
Speaker 5: researt the day or whatever. But you start picking up
Speaker 5: on persistent things. There are first and foremost there's an allowance,
Speaker 5: so there's like a gold system and there's chop tiles
Speaker 5: you can place, and so like right now, like every
Speaker 5: day I start, I've got like thirty two allowance, so
Speaker 5: I've got like all this money I can spend where
Speaker 5: it's like in the earlier run thirty two.
Speaker 1: At thirty two.
Speaker 5: Well, here's another thing I've realized is that I might
Speaker 5: be a real dumbass with this game because I got
Speaker 5: to like one hundred and thirty days, which is one
Speaker 5: hundred and thirty runs, and then my save got wiped
Speaker 5: and then I restarted. But it actually wasn't that terrible
Speaker 5: because it is very much that like Outer Wild type thing,
Speaker 5: where like knowledge is the thing. So it was so
Speaker 5: much quicker for me to get back to stuff after
Speaker 5: I reset. But now I'm on like day thirty, so
Speaker 5: basically I've done like one hundred and sixty runs of
Speaker 5: this game. I'm talking to Minati here on Discord, and
Speaker 5: Minati like what saw credits at which I still haven't
Speaker 5: seen credits. Both Manati and Grubb saw credits early. It
Speaker 5: seemed I.
Speaker 4: Saw I got credits last night at day number thirty two.
Speaker 1: But like, but like you're doing a lot the thing is, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so much more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.
Speaker 4: That's what's great about this game is that you start
Speaker 4: off in like you can make an idea your head
Speaker 4: of what it's about. You can look at and like, okay,
Speaker 4: so it's some kind of roguelike maze game, and then
Speaker 4: you realize, oh, it's it's more complicated than that, and
Speaker 4: this aspect of it is deeper, and this aspect of
Speaker 4: it is deceptive, and everything matters the rooms that you're picking.
Speaker 4: What is in those rooms where the exits are, If
Speaker 4: you're using that room too early, are you prioritizing trying
Speaker 4: to get to a specific room, or are you trying
Speaker 4: to get to the end of the hallway? What are
Speaker 4: you looking for in these rooms? It just keeps getting
Speaker 4: deeper and deeper, and there's so many mysteries in here
Speaker 4: that don't even necessarily revolve around seeing those credits. I
Speaker 4: think Dan has done a lot more of those, and
Speaker 4: I happen to kind of start pulling on some threads
Speaker 4: that got me sitting here.
Speaker 1: Credits. I accidentally got credits.
Speaker 2: I was working on a million other things where it
Speaker 2: was like I'm like, I'm aware, I'm trying to get
Speaker 2: to the this last room.
Speaker 1: I'm setting that aside.
Speaker 2: There are things that I'm interested in between that and
Speaker 2: now that I'm going to focus on. And then I
Speaker 2: just kind of set things up in a perfect run
Speaker 2: where I was like, oh, I think.
Speaker 1: I could just do this right now. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm looking at a map.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think if I go over there, I
Speaker 2: could do this, and I could try Let me go
Speaker 2: try that right now. I happen to have the right
Speaker 2: room to try to test out this hypothesis. It's a
Speaker 2: game about like coming up with ideas about what you
Speaker 2: want to do next, and then that feeds back into
Speaker 2: the card game aspect. And again I say card game.
Speaker 2: Don't you're gonna look at this and be like, this
Speaker 2: is not a card game. It's but you really you've
Speaker 2: got to play your deck. You have to under you
Speaker 2: have to have a drafting strategy. The game eventually just
Speaker 2: starts giving you tutorials about this. If you go, you
Speaker 2: find certain things where it'll teach you aspects about coming
Speaker 2: up with a drafting strategy, like if you're trying to
Speaker 2: accomplish a certain thing, maybe you should be playing your
Speaker 2: rooms in this way. And I'm like Okay, I have
Speaker 2: an idea, I'm gonna try to do that, and I
Speaker 2: just kind of was able to have this perfect run
Speaker 2: where I had like no keys left and I like
Speaker 2: found the right room to get some stuff open, and.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just barely skirted into that last week too.
Speaker 4: I have to say, like that the run where I won,
Speaker 4: I thought I was cooked, and then guess what I
Speaker 4: came across that helped me get to the end above
Speaker 4: it of fucking apples.
Speaker 6: This.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, sorry, does this game have a have a
Speaker 1: narrative that comes together? Like Outer Wilds? So the thing
Speaker 1: that I liked so much about Outer Wilds is that,
Speaker 1: like the the the key into lock was not particularly
Speaker 1: sometimes it was mechanical, like you you go into the
Speaker 1: dark bramble and you're like, oh, I get like I oh,
Speaker 1: I get it now. Yeah, But the the keys into
Speaker 1: locks that happen in your brain are are narrative ones
Speaker 1: where you get to a place and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I understand how they specifically and explicitly how they fucked
Speaker 1: up here and why this is happening, and now I
Speaker 1: understand what I need to do when I go back
Speaker 1: to this other place. Is it only so it is
Speaker 1: narratively keys into locks and mechanically or.
Speaker 5: There are literal keys that go into specific locks and
Speaker 5: stuff like that. But then there's also things where it's
Speaker 5: like there are a lot of books, there are a
Speaker 5: lot of notes that I'm taking screenshots of everything. There
Speaker 5: are notes, and then if you have a if you
Speaker 5: encounter this note with a magnifying glass item and you
Speaker 5: like zoom in on a picture, you might see a
Speaker 5: code for something, or you might see a little scribbled
Speaker 5: and erased message that tells you a little bit more context.
Speaker 5: But yes, if you just want to mechanically get to
Speaker 5: the endency credits, that can be done. But there is
Speaker 5: clearly a much larger story here that is being told,
Speaker 5: where it's like you're learning history of this lore of
Speaker 5: this kingdom and the people who like inherited this house
Speaker 5: and the family tree and like this stuff all kind
Speaker 5: of ties into the actual puzzles and things like that,
Speaker 5: And there are still I'm forty five fifty hours into
Speaker 5: it now, I haven't even really needed to go into
Speaker 5: that yet, but there are definitely things. I know if
Speaker 5: I want to really see all of this, I will
Speaker 5: need to have a greater understanding of this I'm trying
Speaker 5: to decipher languages. I am like it is. There are
Speaker 5: things where it's like forty five hours in, I'm just
Speaker 5: now seeing things that Grub reference to me. Uh you
Speaker 5: know when you were like five hours in where you
Speaker 5: were talking about like Grub said something about like, oh yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm thinking about like we're I'm placing the rooms in
Speaker 5: terms of like the yield.
Speaker 1: Of like crops, and I was like, what the fuck
Speaker 1: are you?
Speaker 5: Then I just stumbled upon that and I saw something
Speaker 5: was like, Oh, this is what the fuck Grub was
Speaker 5: talking about where he's like, oh, yeah, I got I
Speaker 5: got a bunch of money at the casino.
Speaker 4: I was like casino, m M, like I said, even
Speaker 4: though I rolled credits, like right like that same run,
Speaker 4: I opened up this whole other area and I learned
Speaker 4: about a game mechanic something with sigils, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: what the hell is this?
Speaker 1: And I still have no idea what that is.
Speaker 2: You'll you'll find out. You're right a point now where're
Speaker 2: you'll find out very soon and it's like, oh, there's
Speaker 2: a whole there might maybe just like two other games
Speaker 2: in here.
Speaker 1: Still I was chess. I just I just done some
Speaker 1: chest stuff last night. Yes, I'm curious what you selected there.
Speaker 2: Actually, so yeah, I'm yeah, you just got to get
Speaker 2: to the end of the game with credits, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm going to push forward a little bit further. And
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, if I want to keep playing this,
Speaker 2: like I expect to easily double my time.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: So I've got these notes everywhere, and then I've got
Speaker 5: a Google doctor. I'm literally like pouring over the periodic
Speaker 5: table while I play this game.
Speaker 1: Rais and shit like that. Yeah, I did hate that.
Speaker 1: I love I love a game where you finish it
Speaker 1: and you're not done. Yeah. Like but there is like
Speaker 1: it's not like I'm not talking live service, but like
Speaker 1: I'm very explicitly being like, okay, the game is like, well,
Speaker 1: you did do the thing if you want to get
Speaker 1: out of here, when you built.
Speaker 2: Up all this knowledge, right, Like it is like it
Speaker 2: is like a game you play in your head. That's
Speaker 2: what It's the kind of game I'm into these days.
Speaker 2: I'm into a lot of games, but definitely I like
Speaker 2: games that like get in my head and like force
Speaker 2: me to think about things and all right, well, I've
Speaker 2: built up all these skills that are only applicable to
Speaker 2: this one video game. Yes, so I'm not going to
Speaker 2: stop playinge And.
Speaker 5: A lot of people are asking I've seen people asking like, oh,
Speaker 5: is this like an Animal world thing where you can
Speaker 5: see credits and then like there's a bunch of other
Speaker 5: stuff if you want to keep going. It's like, I
Speaker 5: guess in just that form that like there's more after
Speaker 5: the credits. Yes, But like I beat Animal well, I
Speaker 5: appreciated the Animal well, but I was like I did
Speaker 5: not feel the hook to like, all right, I don't
Speaker 5: need to go all the way over there and figure
Speaker 5: out everything there in the sub level and all this.
Speaker 5: With this one, I do feel that, like I don't
Speaker 5: want to stop playing this game. This is so much
Speaker 5: deeper to me than like an Animal will.
Speaker 2: Just placing the rooms is fun, like just that first
Speaker 2: dreams element then yes, yeah, the pipe dreams element of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, is that is satisfying?
Speaker 3: All right? Oh kay, I'm gonna trying it in here
Speaker 3: for a second. First of all, when you guys say runs,
Speaker 3: do you mean the days?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, So I think that's part of why
Speaker 3: you guys are thinking of it differently than I'm thinking
Speaker 3: of it, because when I look at this game, it's important.
Speaker 3: This was not like stressed to me when I first
Speaker 3: picked the game up. Ultimately, you are looking at a like,
Speaker 3: was it eight by eight grid at least to start, Yeah,
Speaker 3: nine by five, okay, something like that, And what you
Speaker 3: are ultimately doing is that the game takes place in
Speaker 3: first person, but you are placing tiles on this grid
Speaker 3: to build a path to the end room. Again, at
Speaker 3: least in the beginning, that's what the goal is presented
Speaker 3: to you as being. And so you need to build
Speaker 3: a path to that room. And every time you like
Speaker 3: walk up to a door to place the next path,
Speaker 3: the next like tile, if you will, you are presented with, oh,
Speaker 3: you'll have like a straight hallway or a cross shaped hallway,
Speaker 3: or maybe you'll be a curve. But then there's a
Speaker 3: puzzle in it. Maybe you can get gems, keys, coins,
Speaker 3: one of the different current resources.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's the base level of what the
Speaker 3: game is. And so it's not it isn't a deck builder,
Speaker 3: because it's it's ultimately not card game. No, no, no, hang on,
Speaker 3: hang on, because you're not specifically correct me if I'm wrong,
Speaker 3: if it changes later, you are not making a load out.
Speaker 3: Per se, you are unlocking rooms that can potentially be
Speaker 3: dealt into the pool.
Speaker 5: Not just that, so you are unlocking rooms, you can
Speaker 5: also there are rooms where you can adjust the frequency
Speaker 5: of them.
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, you can adjust that how frequently
Speaker 2: they show up, and you can add new rooms to
Speaker 2: the deck.
Speaker 5: You can get a devil. These two observatories in my deck.
Speaker 1: Now you can deck that you can't get rid of
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then they're also like, okay, so the parlor
Speaker 5: is the one that has like a wind up key
Speaker 5: in the three boxes, and one of them has a
Speaker 5: gems in it, And then it's like, oh, okay, I was
Speaker 5: able to find an upgrade disc and I was able
Speaker 5: to upgrade the parlor and choose how I wanted to
Speaker 5: do it.
Speaker 1: And it's like, as you go further.
Speaker 5: A lot of these puzzles, specifically the dartboard and the
Speaker 5: parlor puzzle, people who played well know what I'm talking about, Yeah,
Speaker 5: very very hard. And so I was able to upgrade
Speaker 5: the parlor to where, oh I have two wind up
Speaker 5: keys now, so now it's the sixty six percent chance
Speaker 5: I can just not even look at the clues and
Speaker 5: I can just you know, have a better chance of openings.
Speaker 3: Are are you changing the frequency in which that room
Speaker 3: appears though, or is it a physical element to it?
Speaker 5: You can I can go into the is it the
Speaker 5: conservatory or something, and I can say like, okay, I
Speaker 5: want the parlor to show up extremely rarely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're adjusting the rarity of the cards.
Speaker 3: Okay, it's that's a more of a distinction difference, so
Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter, but okay, just want to I don't.
Speaker 4: Think I don't think it's ever going to like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's not going to be a deck builder in that
Speaker 4: way that you're thinking are once Shawn.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: It's not right those mechanics. Yes, it's like and again
Speaker 2: it's you are living inside of it, so inherently it's
Speaker 2: just different. It's the first person solve them up first.
Speaker 3: Something. This is very differently not spoilers. These are mechanics.
Speaker 3: This is the first hour of the game.
Speaker 2: This is the first This is the game as presented
Speaker 2: in the trailer.
Speaker 4: It's weird because it's a game you both like, don't
Speaker 4: spoil it all, but it's also kind of hard to
Speaker 4: spoil because like Dan and Jeff were just talking about
Speaker 4: this game while I was like in there before I
Speaker 4: started playing, and they were talking about things, and it
Speaker 4: all sounded like complete nonsense to me, because it is
Speaker 4: until you do.
Speaker 1: It, you do it right. Yeah, right exactly.
Speaker 4: But like, the thing I love about this game is
Speaker 4: that trying to describe it is so difficult because there's
Speaker 4: all these things you can compare it to, like deck
Speaker 4: Builder or Roguelike. It's a mist like it's the bridge,
Speaker 4: like it's it's amazed like these all these things, and
Speaker 4: it's like but it's like and it's both not any
Speaker 4: of those and all of those, and that could so
Speaker 4: easily turn to a mess of a game. It's combining
Speaker 4: something really new here.
Speaker 5: It is so cool, the moments where it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: you could be playing the game for ten hours and
Speaker 5: then you find this room we've never been into before,
Speaker 5: and you read one note and you're like, oh, this
Speaker 5: is what all that shit meant, like this thing I've
Speaker 5: seen in like every room, and then all of a
Speaker 5: sudden you're pulling out the paper and you're like, oh,
Speaker 5: I had no idea. I thought that was just set dressing,
Speaker 5: and you realize, oh, it's a whole fucking puzzle.
Speaker 2: This is incredible yep, And yeah, I just think it's
Speaker 2: going to probably click with a good number of people.
Speaker 2: I think for a lot of people be like this
Speaker 2: is not for me. I think that is going to
Speaker 2: happen despite all the really good reviews. But it's on
Speaker 2: game Pass, it's on places Extra.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was base it right. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Also a very pretty game too. It's just like not
Speaker 4: cell shaded, but it's got this great style to it's
Speaker 4: kind of it's kind of cell shaded, and like just
Speaker 4: the whole vibe of it is very sort of it's like.
Speaker 1: Creepy serene, you know.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Also, the music, especially when you get to very important points,
Speaker 2: or you get to a certain like rank on the
Speaker 2: on the board, or you go to certain areas you
Speaker 2: haven't been before, some new instruments.
Speaker 1: Kick in and it's like deeply moving. It sounds so cool.
Speaker 2: It's like it makes you feel like you are doing
Speaker 2: something that is a breakthrough, because you probably are, but
Speaker 2: they really it really hit. Makes those moments hit very
Speaker 2: hard for me.
Speaker 5: Here here's the kind of non spoilery thing of just
Speaker 5: like the type of like ways you think in this
Speaker 5: game is like I ran into a safe at one point,
Speaker 5: and it became clear to me that to open the safe,
Speaker 5: I would need to figure out what because it was
Speaker 5: like a time release safe and I had to set, yeah,
Speaker 5: the date and time that it opens, and I can
Speaker 5: only set up a certain window and it has to
Speaker 5: be in the future. And that led me to be like, wait,
Speaker 5: when is the set And I'm just like walking around
Speaker 5: his house looking at like when am I like and
Speaker 5: I'm like trying to decipher the date and like that
Speaker 5: is just one of a million little things that's like,
Speaker 5: oh fuck, I didn't expect to be thinking like this,
Speaker 5: you know, And.
Speaker 2: It's it does a nice thing as well, where it's
Speaker 2: like I did that same thing Dan did, and then
Speaker 2: the next day I found something that basically just told
Speaker 2: me and it's like, oh, I did.
Speaker 1: All this work.
Speaker 2: And if I had just got like if I didn't
Speaker 2: feel like doing the work and I worked on something else,
Speaker 2: I probably would have just run into the game being like,
Speaker 2: we're gonna make it easier for you at this point moment.
Speaker 2: And it does that a lot, like I'm I figure
Speaker 2: out a lot of mechanics that later I'll find a
Speaker 2: room that is maybe a little bit more rare, a
Speaker 2: little bit specialized where you have to do a certain
Speaker 2: thing to get to a certain level of that room
Speaker 2: where it's like, okay, at this point where it's going
Speaker 2: to actually teach you how to do some of these things.
Speaker 2: Or there's a there's like a library system where you
Speaker 2: can get certain things that kind of give you just
Speaker 2: a rundown of house something's work, and they also gives
Speaker 2: you rundown of the lore.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of both.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's there's like multiple avenues that
Speaker 4: get to the same solution. And yeah, like very early
Speaker 4: on to kind of being clever, I found a password
Speaker 4: that I needed, and then like almost when I beat
Speaker 4: the game, there was a point where the password was
Speaker 4: just sort of like in a note somewhere.
Speaker 1: Yes, like deeper what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, hey, in case you didn't find
Speaker 4: this yet, you probably should know about this thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's very smart.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then that was one of the first things I found.
Speaker 2: So when I got that note, I was like, damn it,
Speaker 2: I wish you would have told me something else that
Speaker 2: I didn't know.
Speaker 1: Xactly the things.
Speaker 5: Grub made a joke on a stream that was not
Speaker 5: related to blueprints like two weeks ago, and I was like,
Speaker 5: I know he's been playing that. I wonder if he
Speaker 5: said that, because then I typed in the password and
Speaker 5: he's like password accepted. Yeah, on your mind when you
Speaker 5: said this word, it's a rogue.
Speaker 4: Like, you know, there's some random elements, but at least
Speaker 4: from what I seen, the solutions to puzzles are persistent.
Speaker 4: So it is a game where you can talk to
Speaker 4: your buddies a bit. And you know, I never like
Speaker 4: asked Dani Jeflee, like what's the solution to this puzzle?
Speaker 4: But sometimes I was like, hey, am I crazy? Or
Speaker 4: is this thing not doing this thing? Or am I
Speaker 4: you know, like am I missing something here? Just getting
Speaker 4: some insurances and some nudges was very hopeful.
Speaker 5: And that's been very fun. I would highly suggest that
Speaker 5: no one look up actual solutions because in the pre
Speaker 5: release we didn't get on the benefit. But you know,
Speaker 5: me grubbing Mike, we're definitely in a discord being like
Speaker 5: am I poking up barking up the wrong tree here?
Speaker 5: Or Greb definitely helped me with like, oh do this
Speaker 5: and then maybe go check out this area and like
Speaker 5: never explicit directions.
Speaker 4: Is there anything else I can do in this room?
Speaker 4: I did this, this and this, and like no, I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, you're just starting to run. You've done everything you
Speaker 2: can do. Yeah, that's and that's the kind of things
Speaker 2: that are.
Speaker 1: It's fun.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to talk about it. I'm like,
Speaker 2: that's enough, alright, great. We had a little conversation about
Speaker 2: this game.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yeah, this is the studio's first one. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was like written, directed, and kind of like designed
Speaker 2: all by one person like Conday.
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah that's that. Which, by the way, I had
Speaker 5: my issue. I got reached out to by the social
Speaker 5: account and had an email back and forth about my safeting.
Speaker 1: It's just the creator is doing everything.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like wow, okay, yeah, incredible, incredible stuff
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 1: It's without a end of the year. Yeah, my friend
Speaker 1: name of the year so far. Yeah, me too, it's
Speaker 1: my game of the year so far.
Speaker 4: How did Lucy know? How did Lucy draft this number two?
Speaker 4: In her Fantasy critic counter Something.
Speaker 2: It's demo did very well, is what I remember saying. God,
Speaker 2: and I think she might have talked talked to because
Speaker 2: the publisher's raw fury and raw fury is they got
Speaker 2: a good track record, but I think this is going
Speaker 2: to be there.
Speaker 1: This is going to be their ballottro for sure.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, uh, poor poor Jeff Backolar counterpicked it, so
Speaker 4: that's not gonna be great for Yeah.
Speaker 1: What is it on Open Critic right now? Like is
Speaker 1: it stole ninety one on Open Critic?
Speaker 4: So that's bonus points when it's a good those are
Speaker 4: good point, good points.
Speaker 5: This is a special Like I think the comparisons like
Speaker 5: Outer Wilds are apt. Yeah, yes, it's a different vibe
Speaker 5: than out of Wild but like I think I'm enjoying
Speaker 5: it like on that same level. And and and people
Speaker 5: ask on Animal, well I do like it. I like
Speaker 5: it more than the Animal. Well, for sure, I like
Speaker 5: it more than the witness But like these are the
Speaker 5: type of game is that, Like it makes sense why
Speaker 5: people are bringing these up, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like the Witnesses.
Speaker 2: Like for me, like the way that it's just hey,
Speaker 2: one puzzle right after another, and it builds like very quickly,
Speaker 2: and that fits with my brain really well, where I'm
Speaker 2: just like give me the challenge one right after another.
Speaker 2: I just figured this out. I built up the skill,
Speaker 2: let me use it. This is a little bit more like,
Speaker 2: here's one puzzle like this over here, here's one puzzle
Speaker 2: like that over here.
Speaker 1: But once you.
Speaker 2: Start piecing the whole world together and realizing just how
Speaker 2: interconnected everything is, it really does rise and kind of
Speaker 2: surpass something like the Witness. For me, it's just like
Speaker 2: I'm in that moment still right now.
Speaker 5: I love where it's like you've been seeing something throughout
Speaker 5: and it's just been like, Okay, yeah, I see that.
Speaker 5: I don't really have to worry about that now. But then,
Speaker 5: like I'll get a message from grub me like I'm
Speaker 5: at the point where I have to understand this thing.
Speaker 2: It's that there a little bit too, so I'm like
Speaker 2: excited to go back and play more.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: God, so that one big message. I'm like, what does
Speaker 1: this mean?
Speaker 4: It works really hard to get this message, and I
Speaker 4: gotta figure out what this means. But yeah, I like
Speaker 4: The Witness, Obra dand those are games I like but
Speaker 4: but didn't and love. So if you were like cool
Speaker 4: on those, don't be worried about trying this one out
Speaker 4: still maybe because yeah, this one, there's just something about
Speaker 4: those games would get up to to me or I
Speaker 4: just wasn't on the wavelength. Sometimes I felt on the
Speaker 4: wavelength of this one the entire time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like just getting those items and at a
Speaker 2: point where I'm like, I got credits and I never
Speaker 2: really did much with these tools you get, and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: now I'm doing that.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that's opening up whole new things for
Speaker 1: me as well.
Speaker 5: Spend some time in the workshop. You can make some more.
Speaker 2: Get in the workshop, everybody, for sure.
Speaker 1: Good game, incredible. I love it again. That is blue prints,
Speaker 1: which you can score. Is a pun by the way
Speaker 1: on because blue prints.
Speaker 3: That's the long time.
Speaker 1: Sean. There's a new Katamari.
Speaker 3: There's well on a bunch of stuff. It's on Apple Arcade,
Speaker 3: and so you can play it on your phone, on
Speaker 3: your iPad, on your Mac, on your Apple TV. I'm
Speaker 3: stalling while I get the headline up. But yeah, I'm
Speaker 3: playing out on my phone right now.
Speaker 5: If I don't want to pay a subscription, but I
Speaker 5: do really like Katamari, how do I play it?
Speaker 3: Suck up and I spend seven dollars, Dan, it's seven
Speaker 3: dollars for Apple every month.
Speaker 1: No you can, I'll forget. No, just do it as
Speaker 1: soon as you cancel, just go to the apisode give
Speaker 1: them seven dollars. You can get it for one month. No,
Speaker 1: you subscribe and then before you can eat, before you
Speaker 1: even start anything, you just go into the settings that
Speaker 1: you just type in subscriptions and you just cancel it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then they don't get you. Okay, I'll tell you anyways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm playing on my phone. I don't currently have
Speaker 3: a controller from my phone, and I wish the touch
Speaker 3: controls were a little bit better. It's it's probably what
Speaker 3: you guys think of the older ones in the room
Speaker 3: when you think of touch controls, where it's like, why
Speaker 3: I say touch controls, you probably think of like the
Speaker 3: old iPod touch games where it's like a static analog
Speaker 3: stick on screen.
Speaker 2: That's how I control my robot lawnmower.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do that in here, and that's just so outdated.
Speaker 3: Nowadays games do it where like when you put your
Speaker 3: thumb on the screen, like the circle like goes around
Speaker 3: your thumb and then like if you lift it and
Speaker 3: then press it down again, you'll like adapt to that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So touch controls aren't great, but what is great is
Speaker 3: the game in general. I think it's it's just a
Speaker 3: new Katamari. You know, remember Camar Damas from back in
Speaker 3: the day, Ps. Two and everything. Yeah, it's fun having
Speaker 3: this if you've never played it. This play as the Prince,
Speaker 3: this little dude, you know, in a human world and
Speaker 3: you have this little ball that's about you know, it's
Speaker 3: it's not non It this little couple inch high, little
Speaker 3: little sticky thing that you roll around to like pick
Speaker 3: up objects, and then the objects all collect together after
Speaker 3: you've been rolling around for a while and turns into
Speaker 3: a planet at the end. Is what's going on there.
Speaker 3: What's funny about this is that bringing Backhead of Mari,
Speaker 3: they put a spin on it where the King of
Speaker 3: all Cosmos is a streamer. Now he's a twitch streamer,
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but he's the King of all Cosmos, so
Speaker 3: he's an asshole and doesn't want to do the streaming himself,
Speaker 3: so his streams are all the Prince rolling up Katamari's
Speaker 3: that like his collaborators say we should do.
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, hey, I want to do a short.
Speaker 1: Shorts are all the.
Speaker 3: Rage right now. He's like, all right, Prince, you know
Speaker 3: what that means. You need to roll this up in
Speaker 3: a short amount of time. It's like dumb wordplay like
Speaker 3: that they also do sort of. I was talking about
Speaker 3: this with Warrio World, where Warrio can get away with
Speaker 3: things that other characters can't, and so the King of
Speaker 3: all Cosmos will just like have textboxes that pop up
Speaker 3: directly over your screen, like where you need to be looking,
Speaker 3: and it would be like, hey, pay attention to me
Speaker 3: because I'm the streamer. Like it's the kind of thing
Speaker 3: where like in any argument, I love that. But yeah,
Speaker 3: they're doing intentionally, so it's like funny and if.
Speaker 2: You all Cosmos is a great character, I'm glad.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you if you hit the skip bun like,
Speaker 3: you get one more textbox that says, oh no, I'm
Speaker 3: being ignored and then it goes away. It's just a
Speaker 3: delightful little game. It is. It's been so long since
Speaker 3: I played a Kadamory that I don't remember exactly how
Speaker 3: it played out, but there is a three star system now.
Speaker 3: They had something like that where you got like bonuses
Speaker 3: for doing more I think.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that feels so explicitly mobile game coded
Speaker 1: it like that's that's an angry bird's vocabulary. That is
Speaker 1: like the translated over to mobile. I remember trials.
Speaker 3: But yeah, the thing is it absolutely works for Katemori
Speaker 3: because it's a very like Arcadie sort of score ish
Speaker 3: based thing, so it makes sense to have like, okay,
Speaker 3: you know, hit this goal within a timeline or a
Speaker 3: finish or get it like twice as big to get
Speaker 3: the extra star or you know, three times it's big
Speaker 3: to get the extra star. Stuff like that. And yeah,
Speaker 3: like I said, it's in Apple Arcades, so it's you know,
Speaker 3: it's like to Apple devices for now, which is a
Speaker 3: bit of a bummer. Maybe I'll come to our stuff later.
Speaker 3: Who knows, maybe Apple fronted it, so maybe I'll never
Speaker 3: come to something else, but for now, yeah, you can
Speaker 3: play on Apple device and it kind of just is
Speaker 3: a Katamari game. It has funnel spin on. So I'm
Speaker 3: having a good time.
Speaker 1: Cool, I just want to have the Apple device. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do this. I just opened something. It's opened arcade
Speaker 1: and okay, so the number one game on Apple Arcade
Speaker 1: right now is something called Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic Plus.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw that. I downloaded that. I haven't checked
Speaker 3: it out yet.
Speaker 1: Though there is not a game on the planet that
Speaker 1: would rather play less on my phone. Roller Coaster Tycoon one.
Speaker 1: Well it doesn't look like the Yeah, I don't want
Speaker 1: to the screen too small. No, not the same though,
Speaker 1: because part of the appeal of the roller Coaster Tycoon
Speaker 1: to me is that screen big can see a lot
Speaker 1: of but at the same time the whole time.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Nicky, I'm with you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Nikki. Okay, Well it's a good thing.
Speaker 3: It's not phone game. You can play it on the big.
Speaker 1: Like Taiku two from when I was a kid that
Speaker 1: Saturday two thousand. But you do want to know what
Speaker 1: the number ten game on Apple Arcade is. Yeah, Space
Speaker 1: Invader's Infinity gene Evo. Oh, that's also familiar, Sean. Have
Speaker 1: you played that one?
Speaker 3: I've also been playing Space Invaders, So this is an
Speaker 3: interesting one. I didn't know this game existed, but maybe
Speaker 3: you guys do, because it's an old iOS game from
Speaker 3: way back in the day, like two thousand and nine
Speaker 3: or ten that got ported to X B L A
Speaker 3: and p S three.
Speaker 1: Oh. I probably played and then I got reported back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what they're doing here, is there basically
Speaker 3: bringing back a game that had died due to iOS
Speaker 3: incmpatability or the course of over a decade, So.
Speaker 1: That's why I had three up titles. Yeah, kind of.
Speaker 3: It is back Ris capable on Xbox. For what's worth.
Speaker 3: It's a cool game because you start out and it's
Speaker 3: like nineteen seventy eight and you're just playing Space Invaders,
Speaker 3: but you know you like move your finger to like
Speaker 3: move the ship back and forth. Well, what happens after
Speaker 3: that is that you get a quote from like Einstein
Speaker 3: or something, and then the game is like evolve and
Speaker 3: then every time that happens, as the game goes on,
Speaker 3: a new element is added to the game. So at
Speaker 3: first it's like, oh, now only can you move left
Speaker 3: and right? Now you can move up and down, and
Speaker 3: then it'll be like evolve and now there's color, and
Speaker 3: then it's like evolve and now you have a counter move,
Speaker 3: and then evolve. Now there's music swapping between like adding
Speaker 3: things to the game, and sometimes it's all you expect,
Speaker 3: like oh, now the bosses are in three D. But
Speaker 3: then other times it'll be like, yeah, now you have
Speaker 3: this gigantic like counter attack move. Yeah, yes, very cool.
Speaker 3: How you start with just Space Invaders, but then like
Speaker 3: I'm I don't know, I'm on it survived by Worlds
Speaker 3: it's like Mario like three Dash one or whatever, and
Speaker 3: so I'm like on the third world and now it's
Speaker 3: like a bullet hell game with like vibrant colors and
Speaker 3: like really cool music and stuff.
Speaker 7: If you die is it it's a live space and
Speaker 7: stage based so you get like three lives to start,
Speaker 7: and if you know your three ships are taken out,
Speaker 7: then you do you start.
Speaker 3: The level again. And yeah, there's also like you one
Speaker 3: of the I think this isn't an evolution, but it's
Speaker 3: just x amount stages. You'll get a new ship and
Speaker 3: so start off, you know, you're just like pep little
Speaker 3: space invader ship. But the one I just unlocked is
Speaker 3: like Seeker where it's fire slowly but it's homing beams
Speaker 3: that will like go like in random angles and ship
Speaker 3: until it hits an enemy.
Speaker 1: It's just a really great see.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was talking about how Katamari is, like
Speaker 3: the touch controls aren't great, and so like maybe you
Speaker 3: would I want to play it on like another Apple device.
Speaker 3: This is uh it started as a mobile game, but
Speaker 3: it is so made for mobile that has it'd been
Speaker 3: a great experience because then I just play a level
Speaker 3: or two, you know, as I'm winding out at the
Speaker 3: end of the day and it's a it's just a
Speaker 3: really fun Arcadie time and so I'm having a great
Speaker 3: time with that too.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude, why aren't you playing Fruit Ninja though?
Speaker 1: You know the only good doodle Jump? Oh? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: speaking of doodle Jump, did you know that on Apple
Speaker 1: Arcade you can get doodle Jump two plus? Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have some like Apple Kid has some like
Speaker 3: two games of like the classics, but it's like revamped
Speaker 3: visuals and then no micro transactions.
Speaker 1: And so Tiny Wings we are checking.
Speaker 2: I like I would like to Oh I never played
Speaker 2: Tiny Wings.
Speaker 5: It was fun, but I will still no, I'll never forget.
Speaker 5: Uh when as a game Informer and phone games were
Speaker 5: kind of a thing, Ben Hansen excitedly coming up to
Speaker 5: me and saying, like, do you want to see the
Speaker 5: face of God?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 5: What download Triple Town on iOS.
Speaker 1: It's a fine little iPhone.
Speaker 5: That's the most handsome way to put the face of.
Speaker 1: God described the horse from a Shadows.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, Bones one for you. I downloaded. There's
Speaker 3: a Tycho Drummaster game that's exclusive. Yeah, I went to
Speaker 3: you know that have the usual stuff. They have like originals.
Speaker 3: They have like a J pop, they have like uh
Speaker 3: Namco music, and then went to the anime section and
Speaker 3: it has like the opening to Cowboy Bebop, the opening
Speaker 3: to a Van Geli, and the opening to Demon Slayer. Uh,
Speaker 3: you got a Friend in Me from toy Story, Let
Speaker 3: it Go from Frozen All the stars are here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Did you know that they still make those
Speaker 1: Asphalt racing games there? Wow? Is that game Loft? Yeah?
Speaker 5: I think so. I think there was a long family
Speaker 5: tradition right there. Yeah, there was a Launch three DS game, right,
Speaker 5: Asphalt three D.
Speaker 1: Yes, I think, yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I remember reviewing it being very boring.
Speaker 1: They're on I think the one that is out right
Speaker 1: now is nine. It's called the Asphalt Legends Unite. Well
Speaker 1: there are three, but I guess they're making a billion
Speaker 1: dollars off.
Speaker 3: There's micro transactions or there's like an Apple Arcade versus
Speaker 3: and again that that's why I like this subscription is
Speaker 3: that it's like it's original games made specifically for the
Speaker 3: service as well as mobile games with all the like
Speaker 3: micro transactions and shit ripped out, and he just kind
Speaker 3: of is still.
Speaker 1: Very appealing to me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, those assphall games are just like whenever
Speaker 2: you find out there's like ten million people whose favorite
Speaker 2: game ever is Need for Speed. The same thing happened
Speaker 2: on mobile with Asphalt.
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I want to meet these humans and that's
Speaker 5: just to study them.
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, you've been playing a little indie game
Speaker 1: called Metroid Prime Remastered. Do you want to talk about
Speaker 1: that done?
Speaker 5: I'm I'm in a Metroid state of mind lately, especially
Speaker 5: after the Nintendo thing, and so I was playing it.
Speaker 5: I streamed it last couple of weeks, and then I
Speaker 5: played it on the plane to and from New York,
Speaker 5: and uh, yeah, that one is incredible. It made me
Speaker 5: sad that there was not more news about two or
Speaker 5: three because now I kind of do want to do
Speaker 5: two and three before four comes out, because I beat
Speaker 5: three back in the day, never beat two, and I
Speaker 5: kind of just want to roll through all noun of mood.
Speaker 5: But yeah, look, I didn't like it either.
Speaker 1: I like it.
Speaker 5: It's just such a good remaster, Like the controls are incredible.
Speaker 5: And then, like on a lark, I just decided to like,
Speaker 5: oh what if I plugged in my wave Ford thing
Speaker 5: to the switch adapter GameCube thing on the switch and
Speaker 5: it just worked, and it just mapped all of the
Speaker 5: controls to a wave Ford which called that's a wild
Speaker 5: thing to do. But then it's like, well, no, the
Speaker 5: new controls are incredible. Why wouldn't I do that? And
Speaker 5: you can turn on to like the camera with the
Speaker 5: like gyro plus uh the stick stuff. That's incredible. So
Speaker 5: that's all to say, Metric Brime, you haven't played, it
Speaker 5: holds up incredibly well. Today I did just get I'm
Speaker 5: late enough in the game now to where it's like,
Speaker 5: oh boy, there is long stretches between save rooms with
Speaker 5: like multiple very tough combat encounters and uh gets a
Speaker 5: little frustrating, But hey, I guess that's just.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do it.
Speaker 5: I have been behaim several times before. It's just like
Speaker 5: I forgot kind of how it's like, oh man, this
Speaker 5: does get tough. But yeah, I do want to go
Speaker 5: on to two and probably what's the best way to
Speaker 5: play through? I mean I have it on week Well
Speaker 5: the best.
Speaker 2: I mean there's the best way and then there's the
Speaker 2: best Well there's all yeah, there's the wrong way with
Speaker 2: the key mouse and keyboard prime.
Speaker 1: X keyboard and it works perfectly.
Speaker 5: Okay, I want to sounds great.
Speaker 4: Now, I'm going to like do one of those myself
Speaker 4: here because I want to play two and three really
Speaker 4: bad two before four comes out. I'm gonna wait until
Speaker 4: we get a release day for four. If they announced
Speaker 4: the release stayed for four and they still haven't said
Speaker 4: anything about Metro Prime two and three, uh, then at
Speaker 4: that point I'm like, all right, fine, I'm just gonna
Speaker 4: bust out the w U or try that or whatever
Speaker 4: it's gonna take. But yeah, I want to play for
Speaker 4: Prime two so badly. It's weird to me, but they
Speaker 4: haven't just dropped that yet.
Speaker 5: Almost makes me want to play Dread again. I haven't
Speaker 5: played it since I came.
Speaker 1: I always people are talking about Metroid Dread fucking bangs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Metro Prime Pinball so good. I'm another defender a Mile
Speaker 1: Hunters Prime Hunters. There was a generation force. God didn't
Speaker 1: did the Nintendo DS not come with a demo for
Speaker 1: Metro Prime Hunter first? Yeah? God, I was horrible. It's
Speaker 1: not good. Yeah right.
Speaker 2: I know a YouTuber who was in a clan for
Speaker 2: Metroid Prime Hunters, and I think that's how I've ever heard.
Speaker 1: Wow beautiful actually let's go what number we'd be ranked
Speaker 1: number one in the world. Yeah, yeah, right now Samus's angels. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's pretty good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.
Speaker 1: Do we get jackets? Yeah? Cool, just the.
Speaker 2: Same, the same Yakuza jackets got last year from coin.
Speaker 1: But yeah.
Speaker 5: Speaking of dumb achievements, have I mentioned on here that
Speaker 5: I became the number ten et speed runner in the world.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you take here.
Speaker 5: No, I don't know if you did. Congratulations, but thank you.
Speaker 5: I'm the You can check speed run dot com. I'm
Speaker 5: number ten in the world to go what was your time?
Speaker 1: What? What was your time?
Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a minute forty something.
Speaker 3: I'll put it up. Let me see something out of
Speaker 3: your way after the stream or do you submit the
Speaker 3: stream thing?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 5: After I did the Blake Club thing, I went back to, well,
Speaker 5: I have all the stupid knowledge now I might as
Speaker 5: well do something with it. Yeah, a minute forty three seconds,
Speaker 5: in nine hundred and sixty six milliseconds is my time.
Speaker 5: There's one person in the world that's done it in
Speaker 5: under a minute, which is crazy.
Speaker 1: Do you do you know? Do you know where you
Speaker 1: can pick up more time?
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just like kind of random, Like there's
Speaker 5: definitely place the.
Speaker 1: RNG at this point.
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah, okay, so it's not like I can
Speaker 5: get like rats and like, yeah tricks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand what I have. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're
Speaker 1: also playing a game that is not real, but it's
Speaker 1: under the game section, so I'm going to read it.
Speaker 7: It's East East East.
Speaker 1: Of Dana. Yeah, who's Dana? And what is her? Lachrymosa
Speaker 1: all of it. I said.
Speaker 5: I don't want to spoil story stuff, but it's very
Speaker 5: good action RPG starts with a shipwreck. You're that the
Speaker 5: action is fantastic. You can switch to characters on the fly.
Speaker 5: Lots of fun like leveling up and get different skills
Speaker 5: and things like that. There's like a which time mechanic
Speaker 5: could be dodged perfectly. I played it, uh just on
Speaker 5: my computer, but I am intending. I got some flights
Speaker 5: coming up. That is going to be a Steam deck
Speaker 5: game for me. I intend to keep playing East eight
Speaker 5: Lachrymosa Dance.
Speaker 1: Now a dance.
Speaker 4: Some people say that the beginning is maybe a little
Speaker 4: slow and talkie how did you find it?
Speaker 1: You just kind of have a little patience shot from
Speaker 1: Giant Bomb you have a.
Speaker 3: Question, is this a counter blight because as Dan in
Speaker 3: the name, and you're worried that they were going to
Speaker 3: pick an RPG with anime your own.
Speaker 5: No, No, Black Club is the worst games ever. This
Speaker 5: is like look at the meta, Craig. It's like, you know,
Speaker 5: got like eighty five.
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter to Dan Reichert in my head.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just it's a good game. It's a good
Speaker 5: video game. I didn't play it back when it came out,
Speaker 5: and I figured it's time to give it its due now.
Speaker 1: Yes, Nik, is there a man with a gun underneath
Speaker 1: your desk? No?
Speaker 5: No, I just ii a video check.
Speaker 4: Who told you about this game? Who told you maybe
Speaker 4: you should try this game out?
Speaker 1: Mike?
Speaker 5: For a living?
Speaker 1: He learned it from watching you, Mike. Yeah, he learned
Speaker 1: pregs from you. Who's your wife? And damn is it Lexia?
Speaker 1: Is it ricotta cheese? It's your wife?
Speaker 5: You know what that you know exactly what that means.
Speaker 5: But I'm gonna say none of them. This is my
Speaker 5: party in my adventure.
Speaker 3: This is the ultimate troll. He probably is just doing
Speaker 3: this to get us to do this. This is just
Speaker 3: like the ultimate.
Speaker 1: On my own time on my own stream.
Speaker 5: I didn't even I didn't tell you guys about it.
Speaker 1: What's a lachrymosa?
Speaker 5: I don't want to spy stuff with you.
Speaker 1: Is it Escape Italian? Wait? How far it's Latin?
Speaker 5: For a week, I'd say I played less than two
Speaker 5: hours and I've been in the blueprints hole for a
Speaker 5: while here. But I do intend on going.
Speaker 1: Back to You're halfway there. I think it's like a thirty.
Speaker 5: Five hour game, just main story stuff. But yeah, the
Speaker 5: action is fantastic, incredible soundtrack, really good stuff moving.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was I was playing this game in my
Speaker 4: my early steam deck days and I was enjoying it.
Speaker 4: I did fall off. I do kind of want to
Speaker 4: go back to it. I think I think people still
Speaker 4: think it's the best of the modern yeas because we
Speaker 4: have a nine, we have a ten now. And I
Speaker 4: also just like the Island vibes of this. I like
Speaker 4: the whole Castway flavor going on here. It's a it's
Speaker 4: a pretty game. It's a bit it is very anime,
Speaker 4: which some people don't like, but some people can apparent.
Speaker 1: That's about my boy Dan.
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a good video game.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I rated a V tuber After my stream this week,
Speaker 4: you messaged me.
Speaker 5: You were so upset, I'm gonna go to jail because
Speaker 5: you're saying some tuber.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a very nice person. Well, I'm happy that
Speaker 1: you're learning about the other side. What the what the
Speaker 1: other half likes. And by the other half, I mean
Speaker 1: people who like anime.
Speaker 5: Anything can be good.
Speaker 1: Wow. I don't know if that's true. But you know
Speaker 1: what is always good? Numbers? Yeah, well it can't lie
Speaker 1: to you. You can't manipulate those things. They're just just
Speaker 1: a uniform fact of life. And Mike is here to
Speaker 1: show us how they're made because he's been playing Nubbies
Speaker 1: Number Factory, which is as it's a pegl like if
Speaker 1: I remember understanding correctly.
Speaker 4: It's a Peggl rogue. Like Jan talked about this one
Speaker 4: last week.
Speaker 1: I played a little bit of it as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, this sounded this sounded kind of up my alley,
Speaker 4: Like I'm not the biggest pegl fan, but I like it.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 4: What really got me here is the aesthetic because it's
Speaker 4: very much like mid nineties uh like web designs, especially
Speaker 4: people making their own websites. It's all the sort of
Speaker 4: garish colors and unnecessary gifts right and parents. Yeah, it's
Speaker 4: kind of geocs rotating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that aspect of
Speaker 4: it is great. But even like yeah, like the sort
Speaker 4: of Peggl Rogue Lake stuff here is fun. It's definitely
Speaker 4: in that Bilacho realm of being a roguelike where you're
Speaker 4: kind of working your way to getting certain builds by
Speaker 4: finding the right upgrades and persons.
Speaker 1: Jokers.
Speaker 4: It kind of has jokers in fact, once you beat
Speaker 4: a run even like has like the variants right, like
Speaker 4: we'll now try to do it with this rule slightly different.
Speaker 4: So it's a lot like that. It was one of
Speaker 4: those things too, was like, you know, struggling to get
Speaker 4: through a run and it was like, oh, I'm getting
Speaker 4: a little for a little for then suddenly I just
Speaker 4: get the god build where I am just summoning a
Speaker 4: million cactus spikes and meatball clouds and all these other
Speaker 4: things that are just going right. Like it suddenly it's
Speaker 4: not pegl really anymore. It doesn't really matter where I'm
Speaker 4: shooting the ball. It's just like just trying to like
Speaker 4: you keep going and getting the bill better. It's great
Speaker 4: because like if you sort of overshoot the goal, like
Speaker 4: the points goal. Then you get bonuses based on that
Speaker 4: that gives you more money and more lives.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Jan talked about this last week, and I'm just here
Speaker 4: to say I really liked it. I thought it was
Speaker 4: it was great. I enjoyed beating it for like that
Speaker 4: first time. I think I might go back to it
Speaker 4: at some point, maybe try some of these variant decks
Speaker 4: and things like that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're looking for a one.
Speaker 4: Of these, whether it's a pegl like or a Billatro
Speaker 4: style roguelike. I think this is a great one to
Speaker 4: get into.
Speaker 5: To get an immediate sense of the aesthetic, just go
Speaker 5: to the developer's website. It's mogdog blog dot com and
Speaker 5: you will instantly get what it's going for aesthetically.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Good.
Speaker 5: Also, kind of on that note, I played a little
Speaker 5: bit of a peg idol. I don't know if you've
Speaker 5: heard of that, but it's an idle pegl It's it's pegel,
Speaker 5: but it's an idol game. And so it's just like
Speaker 5: you are leveling up each individual ball and you know,
Speaker 5: this is like a big rock one that knocks out
Speaker 5: like several pegs, and it's just okay. You get auto
Speaker 5: drop where Okay, I've leveled this one up the super
Speaker 5: bouncy ball to just auto drop, and it's very very
Speaker 5: satisfying starting with just pegel and then it's just.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, there's just balls everywhere.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan a peg idol like idol game okay, yeah
Speaker 5: yeah Yeah. Within two seconds you'll be like, oh, I see,
Speaker 5: I see what's going on?
Speaker 1: Here is brain? Oh there's there's a skilled tree. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's look at those balls. There's a lot of Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of God, that's so many balls.
Speaker 4: There's only a few balls in uh in Nubby Factory.
Speaker 1: It's a very different.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more about the other bullshit that you summon
Speaker 4: through hitting your balls.
Speaker 5: It's a good, good time for Pegel likes.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that they should make a second
Speaker 1: one personally. Yeah, that's.
Speaker 4: Why haven't they made a Peggle three or did they
Speaker 4: do that? And I just never found out, like why
Speaker 4: I didn't make it?
Speaker 1: More they made a peg three. They made a peg
Speaker 1: for the phone called blast okay that like people hate people,
Speaker 1: it's not good.
Speaker 5: There was the phone one in like eighth nine because
Speaker 5: I remember when I were at the Garmin call center
Speaker 5: right before game Informer hired me. I would just spend
Speaker 5: egregious amounts of time on the shitter playing Pegle on
Speaker 5: my iPhone and I was in there until like my
Speaker 5: supervisor came in looking for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, but if you're in there, you're sick.
Speaker 5: And that's just yeah, Yeah, I've got body stuff going on.
Speaker 5: You can't tell me you can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly can't talk my body out of poop.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Nubbies Number Factory, I've been playing, And by
Speaker 1: been playing, I mean I finished the video game avowed.
Speaker 1: Oh wow. I don't want to spoil it, because that
Speaker 1: game is really really cool, but it really comes together
Speaker 1: there at the end. It felt a little bit spacey
Speaker 1: to me in the the second to last area, but
Speaker 1: then you get to the last area, and then I
Speaker 1: was like, Ah, these fuckers are cooking, Like they know
Speaker 1: exactly what they're doing, they know why they're doing it,
Speaker 1: and I don't feel like there is a team better
Speaker 1: than Obsidian to kind of tell the story that they're
Speaker 1: trying to tell here. I cannot wait for them to
Speaker 1: make another one of these. Yeah in a way where
Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, they they kind of just they from
Speaker 1: from a video game that had by their own admission,
Speaker 1: a rocky development cycle got started and stopped multiple times,
Speaker 1: and then was a different game. At one point, something
Speaker 1: like the core parkor mechanic was from it, like an
Speaker 1: is the oldest part of the game, I think they mentioned,
Speaker 1: because at one point the game was much more traversal based,
Speaker 1: but they liked it, so they kept it, and then
Speaker 1: they tweaked the rest of it around it. It really
Speaker 1: comes together in a way where it feels patchwork, but
Speaker 1: in a way it's quilt like in the way it's patchwork,
Speaker 1: it doesn't feel like rough shod or or lacking in
Speaker 1: any way. So yeah, if you have not played the
Speaker 1: video game avowed, I think you probably should.
Speaker 3: Speaking of I actually did fire Up. I tried out
Speaker 3: over the weekend. Yeah, because I finally had the time too.
Speaker 3: And yeah, you know, typically not my thing, the sort
Speaker 3: of like more high fantasy fantasy, and that's sort of
Speaker 3: what they're going for there, very elder scrollzy. But I
Speaker 3: was like, let me get through some of this because
Speaker 3: there are exceptions to rules with that if other things
Speaker 3: I like, And yeah, y'all were right that combat rips
Speaker 3: that is.
Speaker 1: Taste, yeah, and there and there are so many different
Speaker 1: avenues for it, like it's not even that. Like I
Speaker 1: switched up my build for the last ten hours of
Speaker 1: the game, which is nuts. Like I had been rocking
Speaker 1: this big like cattle prod basically ended a gun a
Speaker 1: laser gun, and then at the end, I was like,
Speaker 1: fucking sword and shields though, huh is? And then I
Speaker 1: like respect my guy, and I like got a bunch
Speaker 1: of Perry stuff like added to my character. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, like this this shit feels great. Also,
Speaker 1: the magic feels really good. All this. Yeah, I feel like, well.
Speaker 3: You can like switch between the load outs and they
Speaker 3: flow into each other like I started out with. This
Speaker 3: is probably where most people start with, like magic and
Speaker 3: a melee weapon where the magic, you know, I'll use
Speaker 3: that to stun and deal damage over time, then switch
Speaker 3: back to the melee weapon to get ready for when
Speaker 3: the enemy like thaws out from the ice and goes
Speaker 3: to attack me. So I wait and Perry with the
Speaker 3: shield and I get some big damage in with the sword.
Speaker 3: It is fun how easy it is to switch between
Speaker 3: the two end how they do help each other out.
Speaker 3: Like I'm I'm definitely enjoying why I played so far
Speaker 3: well we'll see how far I get. Again, Like the
Speaker 3: story and everything not really my thing, but I like
Speaker 3: the gameplay so much so I do think I'll go
Speaker 3: back and try some more of that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to finishing that one up is on
Speaker 4: my to do list. I got a dual pistol build
Speaker 4: that I think.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. It also like, so this story becomes
Speaker 1: like goes from being like oh like or it maybe
Speaker 1: it doesn't go from being it really is whole it's handholding,
Speaker 1: like we're doing fantasy stuff. And also like this is
Speaker 1: just politics, like you are you are a guy that
Speaker 1: has a lot of uh a lot of push and
Speaker 1: pull in the world, but like it really is the
Speaker 1: last decision you make in the game is you. It's
Speaker 1: just you do in politics. That's it. And it's like
Speaker 1: it's really naked about that in a way that made
Speaker 1: me go, well, fuck, what, like what do I think
Speaker 1: about this? Like how do I want this to move?
Speaker 1: And how do I want these people to move? So yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't want to I don't want to spoil too much,
Speaker 1: but good video game. If you haven't played it, and
Speaker 1: if you have, perhaps finish it, because uh, we'll be
Speaker 1: talking about it a lot at the end of the year.
Speaker 1: Anything real quick.
Speaker 4: So that's a first person game of Park Court, Dan,
Speaker 4: you played up first person game with Park Yeah, this
Speaker 4: week you rested on it, just you know, real quick.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Mirror's Edge?
Speaker 5: Now, there are still elements of it that I found
Speaker 5: a little bit frustrating it, but no, no, I also
Speaker 5: realizing the exact room where I put the controller down
Speaker 5: in two thousand funny, being like, well, that's a very
Speaker 5: stupid reason to stop playing that game. So I gave
Speaker 5: it some more time and attention this time, and it's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: I really like the parts where I don't like it
Speaker 5: as much when it slows down and it's like, you know,
Speaker 5: you're just kind of like shimmying and trying to make
Speaker 5: awkward jumps. But when it's all this stuff where you're
Speaker 5: just like running across rooftops, jumping and rolling and stuff
Speaker 5: like that and dodging bullets, like, it does a really
Speaker 5: good job. And I still love the look of it.
Speaker 5: I think the look is aged incredibly well. So yeah,
Speaker 5: so I'm I'm now more beforehand, I probably would have
Speaker 5: been like, oh, six out of ten. No, I'm probably
Speaker 5: more seven five out.
Speaker 1: Of ten who take it. Yeah, so free will pay
Speaker 1: five one point five plus two point five. It's four,
Speaker 1: that's true. You know what else has a four in it?
Speaker 5: The dark board and blueprints where you're going, by the way,
Speaker 5: get ready to do some.
Speaker 4: Mathus with the math of I did more math this
Speaker 4: weekend than I had in the last twenty years.
Speaker 2: Somebody, yes, and you got some math concepts still coming
Speaker 2: your way, mic Oh, it's wacky maths.
Speaker 4: I hope because I think I've actually reached my limits.
Speaker 1: It gets ten concepts, some.
Speaker 5: Wavy lines and some diamonds, and yeah, Jeff.
Speaker 4: I thought, I'm sorry because like you're about to go
Speaker 4: somewhere else. But Jeff, I thought, like you set before
Speaker 4: that you don't like games where you have to take notes,
Speaker 4: but this one's very much that, right have you kind
Speaker 4: of been.
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I typically don't, especially when the games
Speaker 2: like you should be taking notes. And I said, unless
Speaker 2: it really earns it. Now, I'm not taking a lot
Speaker 2: of notes playing this game. I'm keeping a lot of
Speaker 2: strain and I'm doing I am taking a lot of
Speaker 2: screenshots and I'll go reference those if I have ideas
Speaker 2: about them. There are some things I did have to
Speaker 2: take notes for I got MS paint out and did
Speaker 2: some work on that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 4: You what with that instead of a spreadsheet, which is beautiful.
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, because it's it's all the maps already a spreadsheet.
Speaker 2: So it's like you're good to go.
Speaker 5: You're the version of what I have here.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yeah, totally.
Speaker 2: Killer out here, only when the game really earns it,
Speaker 2: because I'm just I've never been I don't I never
Speaker 2: needed to take notes in school, So I'm like.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have fun here.
Speaker 2: But if a game is like really special and has
Speaker 2: a lot going on, then it can do it now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm a Jeff on that one. And I like,
Speaker 3: from the few hours I did play a blueprints did
Speaker 3: things exactly the same way, like screenshots and like I'll
Speaker 3: like doodle something or something like that, visual versus text.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping the ideas all up here.
Speaker 1: Ye. Nicky was trying to get us over to no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I've got I've got another one here. So the retro
Speaker 1: take four K huh incredible, Yeah, it's the retro take
Speaker 1: four K.
Speaker 2: See mine came and it was broken, and I you know,
Speaker 2: everything's a discord now, so in the discord and I'm like, hello,
Speaker 2: people who live here, I need a little bit of help, please,
Speaker 2: And they always feel bad because I always feel like I'm
Speaker 2: bothering people when I do that, but that's what it's
Speaker 2: there for. And they tell you all the things like
Speaker 2: have you tried the right power supply. I'm like, I'm homie,
Speaker 2: I've tried every power supply in this house. I know
Speaker 2: you guys are gonna yell at me for that. So yeah,
Speaker 2: here's a picture one it even says the right wattage.
Speaker 1: Look at that.
Speaker 2: But they were still like, try other power supplies and
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's just broken. Eventually they're like, okay,
Speaker 2: email Mike Chi, who's the creator of the retro tank,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, okay, Like, how do I do that?
Speaker 2: Just respond to your order. I'm like, oh, okay, and I
Speaker 2: did that. He got right back to me and it
Speaker 2: was just him and he had me send it to him,
Speaker 2: and he sent me back what I thought was a
Speaker 2: repaired unit. And I'm trying out and it turned on
Speaker 2: this time, and this time, after like twenty minutes, the
Speaker 2: image would freeze and it just wouldn't work anymore. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh no, so I like wrote back. I went back
Speaker 2: to Discord first, then went to Mike and he's like,
Speaker 2: I was using this one, like this was my personal
Speaker 2: one that I was using before I send it to you,
Speaker 2: so I.
Speaker 1: Know it works. I'm like, huh, okay, we're gonna try
Speaker 1: some things.
Speaker 2: And this led me to discovering I was trying to
Speaker 2: plug it intrough my live game or four K my
Speaker 2: capture card. I just had that plugged into the wrong
Speaker 2: PCIe port. So got it all set up and I've
Speaker 2: been using it and it's been working flawlessly now and
Speaker 2: it looks it's just so awesome messing around with that
Speaker 2: with that thing, it's actually and it's easier to use
Speaker 2: than I was thinking, Like, there are so many options.
Speaker 2: I thought it would be overwhelming. Just getting in there,
Speaker 2: going with the profiles, making sure the right input is selected,
Speaker 2: and then maybe if I have a digital signal. Messing
Speaker 2: around with some of the other aspects of it has
Speaker 2: been really fun. But everything just looks so good on it.
Speaker 2: It really kind of is worth the price.
Speaker 5: Well, it's got all the built in profiles that are
Speaker 5: really great. I was like Okay, I'm playing this on
Speaker 5: in the Supernintendo game and I wanted to look this
Speaker 5: certain way with this certain shader. That's great, but you
Speaker 5: can also just like it has these auto buttons on
Speaker 5: the remote. Which a thing I really like about the
Speaker 5: four K over the five Acts which I had before
Speaker 5: is that was just kind of a generic remote that
Speaker 5: wasn't really labeled. The four K one is very specifically
Speaker 5: like here is what this stuff does. So it's a
Speaker 5: lot easier to just kind of navigate and do the
Speaker 5: auto cropping and the auto game and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: So just a lot easier to use.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, we like to play a lot of old games,
Speaker 5: so it's great device to have profiles, Like, yeah, the
Speaker 5: profiles are awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have been made by like someone in the
Speaker 3: community really trusts. If you're going with the default one,
Speaker 3: I believe they're still fire Brand X, and yeah, they
Speaker 3: just always do a great job putting all that stuff together.
Speaker 2: There's a handful of folders now in each one where
Speaker 2: it's like Firebrand X and then there's Wobbly Pixels, a
Speaker 2: whole bunch of other people that are.
Speaker 1: All making them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all a lot of them are included, but
Speaker 2: then you can go to the wiki and find a
Speaker 2: bunch more. But it's just it's looking fantastic and plugged
Speaker 2: in the N sixty four, plugged in the Mister, plugged
Speaker 2: in PS one. So yeah, this week over Blood I got,
Speaker 2: I got looked at the opening video. Looks fantastic now GameCube,
Speaker 2: all of it. It's just fantastic. So yeah, really happy
Speaker 2: with it.
Speaker 5: VHS profile and I use it and watch the part
Speaker 5: of the Best of tool Time VHS. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: looking fantastic. Kind of like an lg O lead playing
Speaker 5: a VHS of tool Time is like, yeah, all right,
Speaker 5: my cat striple h Yeah.
Speaker 1: You could even like add auto HDR like it has
Speaker 1: that in there.
Speaker 2: So it's like if I put a bunch of bullshit
Speaker 2: on top to make it look like an old TV,
Speaker 2: it can then kind of use the HDR to get
Speaker 2: the brightness back and stuff like that, and like, I
Speaker 2: need to go get it over.
Speaker 3: Have you guys been using the CRT shaders or have
Speaker 3: you mostly been doing the sharp.
Speaker 5: Scaling for the shaders? Are good using a lot of.
Speaker 1: Shaders, Yeah, especially playing these older games.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can really tell, Like you know, I always
Speaker 5: sess with Mario six four, because I just know exactly
Speaker 5: what that game looks like and how I remember it,
Speaker 5: and like, yeah, if you just do it sharp, it's
Speaker 5: sure it looks you know, you're used to seeing that
Speaker 5: on like Switch online and things like that. Put on yeah,
Speaker 5: and then you put on a CRT shater and just
Speaker 5: like the way it's like hat smooths out and stuff.
Speaker 5: It's like, ooh, this is what I remember. Yeah, And
Speaker 5: that's even.
Speaker 1: When I'm just using the HDR.
Speaker 3: The ACR is for is so that way because when
Speaker 3: you throw on those CRT shaders there's like scan lines
Speaker 3: that they add and stuff like that. They simulate the
Speaker 3: individual like red, green and blue like subpixels off a CRT.
Speaker 3: All of that stuff add on top is get dark
Speaker 3: in the image. That way, you can inject HDR to
Speaker 3: bring back up to like CRT brightness and luminants and
Speaker 3: it works.
Speaker 2: It's really cool, especially on an o leg which is
Speaker 2: why I'm like I should know that monitor and no
Speaker 2: lead look another old T.
Speaker 1: A better time. Yep. Does the retro tink have a
Speaker 1: thing in it that makes the noise that CRTs make
Speaker 1: when you turn them?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 1: I just have that all the time. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, for what's worth, it seems like
Speaker 3: mich is a cool dude. I heard that seems yeah.
Speaker 3: I think GDC it was where like he was on
Speaker 3: a panel with like John Lenneman and m VG and
Speaker 3: some other people. I think Audio was on that one,
Speaker 3: and like when they introduced Mike to like talk about
Speaker 3: you know, like upscaleing stuff, and I think apparently the
Speaker 3: crowd went wild and standing something.
Speaker 1: So that's a.
Speaker 2: Miss thing is more, it's a marvel of technology. The
Speaker 2: fact that we get this that anyone was like, we're
Speaker 2: willing to put all the work in to make this thing,
Speaker 2: to basically make your old games work on a new
Speaker 2: TV and then look like the old stuff. I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: like that's a very niche thing. And like he even
Speaker 2: has like this reverence for composite video that I have
Speaker 2: as well. I'm like, I can't. It's a miracle that
Speaker 2: this thing exists.
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Well that was a delightful game segment. I
Speaker 1: just got my first do you want to make an
Speaker 1: appointment at SGF email? So we do have to take
Speaker 1: a yea, because I take a fucking walk. I love SGF,
Speaker 1: but just like not so soon I'm getting it is April.
Speaker 1: Well that was games. Anybody else have anything that they
Speaker 1: want to talk about before we stop talking about video
Speaker 1: games on this show.
Speaker 5: I feel like I could talk about blueprints for hours,
Speaker 5: but I don't.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we will do a spoiler cast at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all I read.
Speaker 4: I just read one Pat chucklepic write a much more
Speaker 4: elegant thing about the Minecraft movie than I ever could.
Speaker 1: So everybody should check that out. While you were on
Speaker 1: the podcast, Mike, somebody was talking no, yeah, for a while. Okay,
Speaker 1: we will be back in just a second with the news,
Speaker 1: of which again there is none. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk at all about show hey and how
Speaker 1: he fucking sucks on the poet.
Speaker 2: I saw people say they say they were done with
Speaker 2: with him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do I want to know? Well, he's ex and
Speaker 1: then he they went to the Dodgers, went to the
Speaker 1: White House, and was like, man, I love Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: I love this guy. He looks he was very excited
Speaker 1: to get amped.
Speaker 3: Has someone that someone check out, Michael Hyam, Has anyone.
Speaker 1: Seen I have from that boy? Don't days?
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the story of where Trump was
Speaker 2: like telling his friends He's like, I just wish I
Speaker 2: could speak to Shenzo talking about Shinzo. Abe like that's
Speaker 2: a sentence he says a lot. Apparently, it's like I
Speaker 2: just missed Shenzo. I wish I could talk to.
Speaker 1: That's the craziest thing that I've ever heard. You get
Speaker 1: on the Guardians train with me? Come on, I got
Speaker 1: my shirt on right now.
Speaker 4: It's great that it's the way part of me hopes
Speaker 4: they don't win a World Series for a few years.
Speaker 1: That's what you don't want, right because then you then
Speaker 1: you get stuff like this, which is a bummer. It's fine,
Speaker 1: he's winning, he feels now. Just I bet the news
Speaker 1: will cheer us up. Yeah, yeah, let's hit the news.
Speaker 5: Totally unrelated stuff.
Speaker 1: There's no Japan America interaction to relations. Do you think now?
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me put my let me put my
Speaker 1: MSNBC want cat on was show Hey Otani laughing so
Speaker 1: much with Donald Trump because he said, please, I just
Speaker 1: want to play Donkey Kong from my home country's video
Speaker 1: game company. So he was was he doing some shadow
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing that is how this guy works.
Speaker 1: If a guy he likes is like, I don't think
Speaker 1: you should do this anymore. The odds that he would
Speaker 1: be like, well, okay, Nintendo doesn't count for them.
Speaker 2: That's true except for some reason Tariffs bitch loves Teriff
Speaker 2: everything else.
Speaker 1: He else president President. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So anyway, I switched to goud announced last week. That
Speaker 2: was after the last BombCast, right.
Speaker 5: Normally would have been which I do want to yet
Speaker 5: direct people to the BombCast Revengeance yes from Yeah, that
Speaker 5: was me fresh off the trip, going deep on like everything.
Speaker 5: I played everything, I saw, all the initial announced news
Speaker 5: and everything. So check out the revengeans if you didn't see.
Speaker 2: If yes, if you want to hear like Dan dive
Speaker 2: into actually playing these games, what it's like, what the
Speaker 2: switch to is going to be like hypothetically in such
Speaker 2: a world where it comes out like he's got that
Speaker 2: information for you in the BombCast Revengeance from it's the
Speaker 2: last episode in the feed. But this happened after the
Speaker 2: last BombCast, So a normal episode of this would have
Speaker 2: been like, here's all the details about the switch too,
Speaker 2: and so I guess here they are.
Speaker 1: It's June fifth, it's coming out. Question mark four hundred
Speaker 1: and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: Question more, question mark five hundred dollars with Mario with
Speaker 2: Mario Kart World, many more question marks, and then pre
Speaker 2: orders begin April ninth, Well, not anymore, that would be tomorrow.
Speaker 2: Nintendo delayed pre orders basically immediately the next day because
Speaker 2: later that day for the announcement of the directory.
Speaker 1: Next day it was Liberation Day. Liberation Day, that's right.
Speaker 1: God damn it, I feel like say from a metal
Speaker 1: gear game.
Speaker 2: Trump announced massive worldwide tariffs on countries including Japan, China, Vietnam, Cambodia.
Speaker 2: There's a country that's habited just by penguins that has
Speaker 2: a tariff on it. Yeah, it's just across the board,
Speaker 2: but especially hard hit are China obviously that one everyone
Speaker 2: could predict, but also Vietnam and Cambodia, which is where
Speaker 2: you know Nintendo. Oh, A lot of country or a
Speaker 2: lot of companies knew stuff like this could happen. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of other reasons to diversify, but tariffs were
Speaker 2: definitely one of them. And so they were like, we're
Speaker 2: going to spread out where we manufacture things, and we're
Speaker 2: going to go to places like Vietnam and Cambodia which
Speaker 2: are making things very enticing for us. And now those
Speaker 2: have forty six and forty tariffs on them, which is
Speaker 2: a it's a I guess for people who don't understand,
Speaker 2: if you bring a switch to into this country from
Speaker 2: those countries, the company that imports it has to pay
Speaker 2: a forty or six percent tax on the cost, So
Speaker 2: it adds another you know, if it's a four hundred
Speaker 2: dollars thing, it adds another two hundred dollars on top
Speaker 2: of that four hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: Two hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Well, that sounds that the other country has to pay
Speaker 4: for that all by itself and with no other cost
Speaker 4: going anywhere.
Speaker 2: Well, the other countries don't have to pay anything like
Speaker 2: that's the good news. The bad news is it's the
Speaker 2: importing company and they don't just do that. They pass
Speaker 2: on the cost to everybody, which is why Nintendo has
Speaker 2: delayed pre orders because they were going to start taking
Speaker 2: pre orders for one price. And really the major reason
Speaker 2: you would delay preorders is to figure out what you're
Speaker 2: gonna have to charge to make this make sense.
Speaker 1: So this is a it's a it's.
Speaker 2: A new sales tax. Basically, it's a tax paid for
Speaker 2: by in the end consumers. Effectively, it's paid for by
Speaker 2: the companies when it happens though, so we yeah, right now,
Speaker 2: you know, there's a lot of other details. We're gonna
Speaker 2: go through all kinds of other stuff. We're getting answers about,
Speaker 2: like what the switch to does it actually support DLSS?
Speaker 2: All that stuff is in here? Should should we start
Speaker 2: with like all the fun details or start Let me ask.
Speaker 4: You a couple questions, Jeff, I'm I think you're you're smart.
Speaker 4: You may be No if I say one else, maybe
Speaker 4: the smartest one here? No, wow, Let me ask you,
Speaker 4: this is the switch to price going to increase?
Speaker 1: Yes? I think so? How much? I do? How much?
Speaker 1: Like a little lot?
Speaker 2: I mean, dude, like you said earlier. I also, I
Speaker 2: have no idea, but like if I were, then I'm glad.
Speaker 1: I have Mario Kart. I would probably raise it by one.
Speaker 2: Hundred dollars and I would go five fifty and six hundred,
Speaker 2: and then if tariffs go away, I would shimmy Mario
Speaker 2: Kart around and try to drop it back down by
Speaker 2: fifty dollars. So I end up with a five hundred
Speaker 2: and fifty dollars version with Mario Kart in it. If
Speaker 2: tariffs go away, tariffs don't go away, then you keep
Speaker 2: it at Yeah, five fifty six hundred.
Speaker 1: Isn't the big fear though, which like is why this
Speaker 1: shit is so is destructive for a million and one reasons,
Speaker 1: But it gets us into an environment where nobody can
Speaker 1: trust the things we say anymore, which is more debilitating
Speaker 1: honestly than the uncertainty of the moment when it is happening,
Speaker 1: because this is a huge issue. It's it is unclear
Speaker 1: whether or not we will he will make a decision
Speaker 1: that is like actually just kidding, which he loves to do.
Speaker 1: He's like, actually just kidding. It's different now, there's nothing
Speaker 1: from stopping him in six months being like I actually
Speaker 1: did mean the thing that I said, and it changes it,
Speaker 1: which puts a Nintendo in a situation where they can't
Speaker 1: be like, well it's cheaper now, but it's going to
Speaker 1: be a flexible pricing, so like get in in the
Speaker 1: next two weeks because then it's going to be more expensive,
Speaker 1: and then actually after that it's going to go back
Speaker 1: down a price like you can't fluctuate a.
Speaker 4: Ten point like that gets to be in this fun
Speaker 4: position where just the way the timing worth out, they
Speaker 4: get to kind of be the ones to be the
Speaker 4: bearer of Bend news.
Speaker 5: But I mean it was the same day as that
Speaker 5: New York event where as the direct Yeah.
Speaker 2: But but y yes, Like that's a good point though,
Speaker 2: Like it's not just Nintendo. Everyone's going to have to
Speaker 2: raise prices. Razor was canceling laptop orders that people made
Speaker 2: in February, like three thousand dollars laptops. They're going to
Speaker 2: be a lot more expensive than that.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: Daniel mad On On on Blue Sky Right Now pointed
Speaker 2: out that, you know, okay, you know what, let's put
Speaker 2: in this perspective. First we have these are the initial tariffs.
Speaker 2: This is a trade war now.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so today, yes, it was like China today
Speaker 1: was like all right, bet no more American movies. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And also a tariffs on top of what they already had,
Speaker 2: and that's in response to these, which has now caused
Speaker 2: Trump to respond. And so the Trump the Trump tariffs
Speaker 2: on China have gone from fifty percent up to a
Speaker 2: one hundred and four percent now cool, So, as he
Speaker 2: points out here, a device that costs that would have
Speaker 2: been priced at five hundred dollars today will now have
Speaker 2: to at least be one thoe hundred dollars. So I'm
Speaker 2: imagining this retro tink four K I just got for
Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty dollars would probably have to be
Speaker 2: about one thousand dollars going forward to make it make
Speaker 2: sense to actually ship it to this country and sell
Speaker 2: it to us. Awesome, and there's no real way around
Speaker 2: this stuff. It's questions go away.
Speaker 4: My second final question for you, I mean, is the
Speaker 4: switch to still going to release?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: What was the date supposed to be June fifth? June
Speaker 4: fifth in North America because they've also delayed the Canadian
Speaker 4: pre orders? Now, is this thing still coming out on
Speaker 4: that date?
Speaker 1: Here?
Speaker 2: I mean they so they said that it's still coming
Speaker 2: out that date. I I don't know. I think so,
Speaker 2: like they have to just maybe brute force their way
Speaker 2: through this. Like the reality is they're gonna have they
Speaker 2: want to sell it everywhere, and while the United States
Speaker 2: an environment does dictate a lot of how things happen globally,
Speaker 2: they're not going to want to punish the entire world
Speaker 2: because the United States can't get their shit together. So
Speaker 2: I think that we will probably have special pricing if
Speaker 2: things continue to be a moving target, Like if you know, Vietnam.
Speaker 1: You know, we'll go through we'll talk about some of
Speaker 1: this stuff.
Speaker 2: Now, Vietnam was like, hey, we'll get rid of all
Speaker 2: our tariffs if you get rid of your tariffs. And uh,
Speaker 2: one of Trump's advisors that's been on TV said, this
Speaker 2: is not a negotiation.
Speaker 1: I said, well, then what the fuck is? But we
Speaker 1: get what are we doing? I don't understand.
Speaker 2: But of course it's just he sees a trade deficit,
Speaker 2: which is what this is really about. We spend more
Speaker 2: money buying things from Vietnam than view spend buying products
Speaker 2: for them from US.
Speaker 1: Is it is like, and I said, I think I said,
Speaker 1: I don't remember where I said it last week, but
Speaker 1: it is like going into target and being mad that
Speaker 1: the target is not buying clothes from your house. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's exactly this, exactly like talking about like and.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing Target might actually hire you for, like
Speaker 2: consultant services. Right, we have a service based economy. Now,
Speaker 2: like that's that we sell services. So yeah, they don't
Speaker 2: buy products from us. To the trade deficit, the actual
Speaker 2: like trading of goods looks out of whack. But we
Speaker 2: we have way more money than any other country, so
Speaker 2: necessarily the trade deficit is going to be in their
Speaker 2: favorite It's not a win loose scenario. It is we
Speaker 2: both win because I get a cool thing and you
Speaker 2: get some money, Like that's what we want. It's that
Speaker 2: that was the whole idea of free trade. We built
Speaker 2: a whole world around free trade now and he doesn't
Speaker 2: understand it, so he's running like a wrecking ball through
Speaker 2: everything and making it just way worse.
Speaker 3: The other the quote I heard on the news the
Speaker 3: ore day was that no, no, we don't have enough money.
Speaker 1: All right, Oh well, no hold on, because if you
Speaker 1: put all the money at the top, we done, it'll
Speaker 1: just start in our pockets. Crazy. The other thing that
Speaker 1: I was I was trying to like rationalize because I
Speaker 1: drove from from Los Angeles to Utah and the middle,
Speaker 1: the middle bit between there is a is a weird
Speaker 1: slice of this great nation. He had a lot of
Speaker 1: weird stuff. And then I kept thinking about all of
Speaker 1: the like the guys that have lifted their Toyota Tundras
Speaker 1: four and a half inches and then have also the
Speaker 1: biggest American flags you could ever see attached to the
Speaker 1: back of the truck, and I'm like, where do you
Speaker 1: think your car came. You bought your car here for sure.
Speaker 2: Okay, well this is a good point, Nikki, because trucks
Speaker 2: especially are an interesting one because those have had tariffs
Speaker 2: on it for a long time.
Speaker 1: Right, So the.
Speaker 2: Argument, so the argument that a lot of people on
Speaker 2: the other side would make here and the other side
Speaker 2: like they don't even really understand this, so it's not
Speaker 2: really a side. But the argument that a lot of
Speaker 2: people are making on TV is that this will bring
Speaker 2: manufacturing here. And they'll point out, hey, a lot of
Speaker 2: those Toyota vehicles they do like manufacture in Alabama in
Speaker 2: the South. It's like, well, do you know what they
Speaker 2: really do, because what they do is they build two
Speaker 2: halves of a truck in Japan, Yes, and then they
Speaker 2: ship it here and someone stitches together. Yes, yes, that's
Speaker 2: what really happens. And they do that to get around
Speaker 2: to terror shipped.
Speaker 3: One way, then shift the RWA, then ship our way again.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, there's and so they just come up
Speaker 2: with all these ways to get around around teriffs, and
Speaker 2: they build entire business models around avoiding.
Speaker 1: These specific taxes.
Speaker 2: You know, that's is that a reason not to do
Speaker 2: a tax? It's like, well, not alone, but the fact
Speaker 2: that it's just a shitty policy across the board and
Speaker 2: causes prices to go up right after we got done
Speaker 2: with you know, we can talk about the price of
Speaker 2: the games. Eighty dollars from Mario Kart World. That is
Speaker 2: a lot of money, but in twenty seventeen dollars, that's
Speaker 2: a cool wint to sixty one dollars and fifty cents
Speaker 2: of purchasing power. That's how much inflation has just been
Speaker 2: in the last eight years. So they're just keeping up
Speaker 2: the price that they had before and.
Speaker 1: The wage we get to the tariffs also, yes, so
Speaker 1: we're all god war. It's a huge trucks. We have
Speaker 1: all this money. Good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Nikki, I was seeing my taxes yesterday and
Speaker 3: I was having a lot of fun. How about you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of cool. It's kind of cool to
Speaker 1: be alive.
Speaker 4: Yeah, good time you're paying there on that one, because yeah,
Speaker 4: I got all this contract work now, so I don't
Speaker 4: know what a I don't get anything back.
Speaker 1: They're making a thrums off game though. Yeah, so okay,
Speaker 1: so we don't know, Mike, answer your question. The prices
Speaker 1: go up, probably will it actually come out on June fifth?
Speaker 1: That's got it. I don't know.
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to answer something here very soon. So
Speaker 2: the creators were supposed to begin tomorrow, and I feel
Speaker 2: like tomorrow we have to get some kind of answer.
Speaker 2: But they just might not know what to do or
Speaker 2: say at this point. That's how uncertain you think.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they even have a plan right now,
Speaker 4: if they still are kind of like stalling like.
Speaker 1: I would, I would think they know what their conversations are.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean, part of it is definitely stalling,
Speaker 2: but they're like, you know, the president of Nintendo almost
Speaker 2: certainly is talking to like the actual president of Vietnam
Speaker 2: right like, hey, can we like then go to the
Speaker 2: United States and like present something to them? Like that's
Speaker 2: what's happening right now. That's the level of conversation we're talking.
Speaker 4: It's a really hard position for Nintendo right now. I'm
Speaker 4: trying to say, like, you know, have sympathy for a
Speaker 4: corporations because they have done some things with the pricing
Speaker 4: and switch shoes stuff that is absolutely ridiculous and greedy,
Speaker 4: especially the ten dollars for that stupid demo thing, you know,
Speaker 4: stuff like that, but.
Speaker 2: It never just kind of their game, right something they
Speaker 2: only started this lession, right, but they.
Speaker 4: Can't lose a lot of money selling switch shoes. And
Speaker 4: yet they also can't not sell switch toos, right because
Speaker 4: then you can't sell the video games. So like, what
Speaker 4: what do they do there? They have to sol them
Speaker 4: a like kind of a loss. Is it still a
Speaker 4: lot of money at that point because of the tariffs?
Speaker 4: They could sell us like for a loss and it
Speaker 4: would still cost like five hundred and fifty dollars or
Speaker 4: something like that.
Speaker 1: Is the world?
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Sean, Oh just real quick on topic four fifty,
Speaker 3: the profit margins were not huge on that price because
Speaker 3: now there's so many things that you have to factor in,
Speaker 3: think about the power of the de and everything, like
Speaker 3: four fifty, I know, it seems like a lot. It's
Speaker 3: not that much more of that Steam Deck. I know
Speaker 3: the Steam Deck is you know, older device at this point,
Speaker 3: and it's a different kind of device. But switch to
Speaker 3: U is better in a lot of ways, So think
Speaker 3: about the power level there. I think it was the
Speaker 3: Verge put together a hypothetical parts list that came out
Speaker 3: to the Wai like three fifty fifty is just how
Speaker 3: much they're charging in Japan, right, But that's also not
Speaker 3: how much it would cost them to just put it
Speaker 3: on a shelf. You have to think about all the
Speaker 3: other factors.
Speaker 1: That bring it somewhere about it exactly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but you also have to build in all
Speaker 2: the risk mitigation as well, like the currency could like
Speaker 2: that's one of the main reasons that the pricing is
Speaker 2: weird between Japan and the rest of the world, Like
Speaker 2: the again is very weak and has been, but that
Speaker 2: could change. They've seen that change a lot during a
Speaker 2: console generation, so they price it be like loost, we
Speaker 2: could sell that thing for three hundred and fifty dollars
Speaker 2: and that's worth any in right now, but they are
Speaker 2: expecting that to be shaky going forward, especially in the
Speaker 2: right too, because the dollar is dropping right now. So
Speaker 2: they could have set up for one price and it
Speaker 2: immediately would have been like we have to do an
Speaker 2: entire generation. Never really been able to raise the price,
Speaker 2: So they are building in a lot of risk mitigation
Speaker 2: and like you would with anything that you were doing
Speaker 2: with your own money.
Speaker 1: So that Yeah, God, the Wei was two fifty at
Speaker 1: launch in two thousand and six, and if you do
Speaker 1: the inflation calculator, that's four hundred dollars. So then if
Speaker 1: you the extra fifty dollars, because that was just two
Speaker 1: GameCubes put together, right that like that math makes sense,
Speaker 1: just like the amount.
Speaker 4: Of exactly, yes, you could have done a Wei factory here.
Speaker 1: We could have got away with that. Just we'll just
Speaker 1: make the Wii in Ohio. Do you think that isn't
Speaker 1: three months? We did a couple of months to make
Speaker 1: the Nintendo We we isn't that fucking crazy? We don't
Speaker 1: even have the capability in this country to make a
Speaker 1: Nintendo whe let alone an Nintendo switch to.
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, like we like there are our
Speaker 2: chips would make here, Like Texas Instruments still makes like
Speaker 2: t I eighty four chips here, Donkey video. You could
Speaker 2: make a lot of the of the switch to here,
Speaker 2: just not the expensive part, Like that's the reality the
Speaker 2: screen and the chips would be way that would take
Speaker 2: years to get that off the ground. You could in
Speaker 2: two years you could start making the plastic.
Speaker 1: Class I guess yeah. The thing that I'm kind of
Speaker 1: holding out hope is I don't think the verbiage I
Speaker 1: want to use. There are already a bunch of switch
Speaker 1: twes here. Yes, So that's where they could get a
Speaker 1: little creative.
Speaker 2: But they but they would probably treat that, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: would treat that as like another thing where they can
Speaker 2: buffer themselves against risk and be like, let's.
Speaker 1: Make some profit on these at that higher price. And
Speaker 1: then if we have like.
Speaker 2: It's going to be difficult for them to navigate because
Speaker 2: even if the tariffs go away, there's no guarantee that
Speaker 2: they stay away. So if they if that happens, they
Speaker 2: can't immediately be like, and the price is back down
Speaker 2: to what we said before, because they could come back
Speaker 2: and then they have to raise it again.
Speaker 1: I suppose they maybe.
Speaker 2: Could try to tie it explicitly to the teriff, right
Speaker 2: and say it's gonna be the price is gonna be
Speaker 2: a moving target going forward for the United States and
Speaker 2: just the United States.
Speaker 1: That's just so confusing, though, because I feel like you
Speaker 1: can't go you can't tell someone go to the best Buy,
Speaker 1: and you actually have to google something else to determine
Speaker 1: how much this thing's gonna cost.
Speaker 4: Here's the the aspect of it I find interesting is
Speaker 4: because like Nintendo could come out and they could very
Speaker 4: directly try to blame this on the teriff. They can
Speaker 4: evoke the name of Trump, and like I've seen how
Speaker 4: that sort of thing has worked out for another company,
Speaker 4: like a lot Disney, right, where like Disney suddenly became
Speaker 4: an enemy and a target of the Republican Party in
Speaker 4: this weird way that like actually did impact it in
Speaker 4: terms of like you know, politics and laws and finances
Speaker 4: and all of this stuff. And I and Entitled probably
Speaker 4: doesn't want to do that either. So it's it's.
Speaker 1: Just weird and strange. It's kind of scary all around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: especially it seems like Nintendo has Disney aspirations with the
Speaker 1: their bread right, and it is too early in their
Speaker 1: quest to do that to be as loud, I think,
Speaker 1: as too early. It's a multi billion dollar company, gang,
Speaker 1: So it's like it's not like they don't they're powerless
Speaker 1: in this situation, but it is. It's it's a it's
Speaker 1: a bad situation to be in, and the thing is
Speaker 1: no way to prevent it either.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing we could do is so I'm
Speaker 2: pretty close to Canada, I'll just go up there and
Speaker 2: I'll pre order my switch too up there.
Speaker 1: I just got.
Speaker 2: I was gonna go to Right Winds, and.
Speaker 1: They canceled, they delayed the pre order dates in Canada. Also,
Speaker 1: yeah are bad? Yeah, are bad everybody. We're ruining it
Speaker 1: for the entire world and.
Speaker 2: Especially our closest neighbors. That's our move, Okay. I the
Speaker 2: real answer to all these questions is we don't know,
Speaker 2: So let's talk about some stuff we do know.
Speaker 1: I guess the switch to.
Speaker 2: S horsepower makes developers extremely happy. Dan, you did you
Speaker 2: did see you have to go over everything, but just
Speaker 2: to your like first take, you were like, hey, these
Speaker 2: games look next Gin, you know, relatively speaking, what would
Speaker 2: you think of like the visuals.
Speaker 5: I mean, the thing is the like Nintendo art style
Speaker 5: always looked incredible ever since the HD with you. But
Speaker 5: I think you were like, Mario Kart still looks like
Speaker 5: Mario Kart. It's not like this generational jump where it's
Speaker 5: just like, oh my god, the Mario looks incredible now, No,
Speaker 5: he looks like Mario. Where you see the differences is
Speaker 5: things like you know, the twenty four racers on screen,
Speaker 5: and like I talked about how the first time I
Speaker 5: threw a blue shell and I was like, oh shit,
Speaker 5: there's a whole cluster of like it knocked out, like
Speaker 5: six cards going flying everywhere, like stuff like that. Where
Speaker 5: it's like, okay, this is this is great, and things
Speaker 5: like Donkey Kong where you're you know, destroying the entire
Speaker 5: area and then you know that's being rough in the map,
Speaker 5: and it's like, okay, there are things here that I
Speaker 5: don't know if the Switch one would be able to
Speaker 5: do as well. I ever hears of the Kingdom Breath
Speaker 5: the Wild running, you know, demonstrably better on the switch too.
Speaker 5: So yeah, it looks fantastic. It's definitely like I think,
Speaker 5: across the board, you don't see the generational leaps we
Speaker 5: saw from like PS one to PS two anymore, but
Speaker 5: undeniably it looks much much better. Metroid, for instance, looks
Speaker 5: so fucking good on the Switch two.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I was just so happy looking at the things, like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, this is what I want, especially, you know,
Speaker 4: the big thing I wanted was smoother frame rates and
Speaker 4: something Switched one struggled with a lot, and everything here
Speaker 4: looks really smooth, really vibrant, And I hated the rail
Speaker 4: for a second. But I just got a headline in
Speaker 4: my emails. Can I read you guys's breaking news at lease?
Speaker 1: Please Paramount Pictures to release The Angry Birds Movie three
Speaker 1: in theaters wide on January twenty ninth, twenty twenty seven. Oh,
Speaker 1: just a little bit before the Legend of Soda movie.
Speaker 1: My kids watch that. Then they liked it.
Speaker 4: Liked like a movie made for children, you know what.
Speaker 1: I thought?
Speaker 2: It was like I liked what was the other bad
Speaker 2: Disney movie that came out recently?
Speaker 1: I liked Wish Better? Oh no, I like, I'm with
Speaker 1: the I'm with the kids. I also didn't think t
Speaker 1: was very good, but then I did have I did
Speaker 1: wake up. This is not a joke. I woke up
Speaker 1: sad the other day because I was like, was I
Speaker 1: too hard on that flip? And then I thought about
Speaker 1: it somewhere. I was like, no, it's just not very good. No,
Speaker 1: I thought we didn't. I thought Angry Birds was cooked.
Speaker 1: I thought that was done.
Speaker 2: I think it's like one of those things where it's like,
Speaker 2: actually the movie still makes money, so we'll just keep
Speaker 2: doing those instead.
Speaker 1: So yeah, switch right.
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to be excited about the switch
Speaker 4: to because, like, I think the games look great. It
Speaker 4: looks very pretty. I was I was fine with that
Speaker 4: fourge fifty dollars price tag, honestly.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it does sound like developers
Speaker 2: like it. So really the story here is cievdevs have
Speaker 2: said they're really happy working with this thing, like it's
Speaker 2: it's very easy to work with, which is I think
Speaker 2: when we get follow up devices for successful consoles, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of pitfalls that companies traditionally fall into. Getting
Speaker 2: aggressive with the pricing definitely one thing, and I think
Speaker 2: what we can say Nintendo guilty of that to a
Speaker 2: certain extent here. And then the other thing is often hey,
Speaker 2: making your hardware byzantine and weird, And it sounds like
Speaker 2: they avoided that one at least, so they were listening
Speaker 2: to developers and I think gave them the amount of
Speaker 2: RAM that they need.
Speaker 1: But it sounds like the tools are also easy to
Speaker 1: work with. We'll probably find out more about that soon.
Speaker 2: We also got to support that switch to does in
Speaker 2: fact support DLSS, something that we could assume was going
Speaker 2: to be the case, but they basically said, and this
Speaker 2: was from Nvidia themselves, the new RT cores will be
Speaker 2: will bring real time ray tracing to the system that
Speaker 2: one's okay, really on the switch to, but they're saying so,
Speaker 2: so it's going to deliver life like life reflections and
Speaker 2: shadows for more immersive worlds and then the tensor corese
Speaker 2: power AI driven features like deep learning, super sampling, boosting
Speaker 2: resolution for sharper details, and sacrificing without sacrificing image quality.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've had any games come out
Speaker 2: and confirm, hey, this one has to DLSS, but I
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised if it's just like something that's just happening,
Speaker 2: Like it's just part of getting a game working.
Speaker 3: Probably, just like all the third party stuff that you
Speaker 3: know is on PC has a good PC version, they'll
Speaker 3: just also use DLSS on the switch too, because presumably
Speaker 3: it would be the same muscle. And with the RAG tracing,
Speaker 3: don't think like ray trace reflections and like super fancy
Speaker 3: stuff like that. I think more like ray trays global
Speaker 3: illumination RTGI. That's the kind of thing where you might
Speaker 3: remember people talking about the PC version of like Indiana
Speaker 3: Jones and Assassin's Creed Shadows needed a Nvidio two thousand
Speaker 3: series graphics card in or to run that. That's what's
Speaker 3: going on there, is that like they're moving to the
Speaker 3: base level of ray tracing as being the lighting model
Speaker 3: period for the game, and so you just need like
Speaker 3: base level support in order for those games to run
Speaker 3: on a system. That's the kind of we're gonna be
Speaker 3: looking at here.
Speaker 4: What if it's a type Actually it's Roy Tracing, and
Speaker 4: it just means that that one Mario Car.
Speaker 1: Special.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Mario paint feature.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 5: That should be Mariot, that should be a Jamboree mini game.
Speaker 1: Is way too proud of that one by himself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I just killed Sean inside.
Speaker 3: I was expecting a moment sounds there and then yes,
Speaker 3: and I was very disappointed.
Speaker 5: Everyone hes out his own joke.
Speaker 1: We all just uh many others always boys for sure,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 2: Nintendo confirms switch to joy Cons won't feature Hall Effect sticks.
Speaker 1: They can't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my hopes up though, I really did.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they don't want to get they don't want
Speaker 2: to get super making bad ones. I'm like, oh, they'll
Speaker 2: just make it more like sustable this time.
Speaker 1: It's just it's so much the number of people who
Speaker 1: are going to do a class action lawsuit is so
Speaker 1: much lower than the number that they'll make off of
Speaker 1: selling you more joy conep so like.
Speaker 3: Taking you know, like, yeah, of course it's the cheapest
Speaker 3: thing they can do. You're just gonna buy new joy Cons.
Speaker 3: That sucks. That's them, that's what yep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also if you want them to be hal effect,
Speaker 1: I'm sure six Well no, never mind, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: you can probably just buy them later. You're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, maybe for like four hundred dollars switch to
Speaker 2: won't have achievements, Nintendo confirms. Funny just because how they
Speaker 2: were asking Bill Trennon, who what is this title now?
Speaker 2: Vice President of Player and Product Experience. He was asked
Speaker 2: about this, that would be his job. He just said, nope, nope.
Speaker 4: That has to be a long argument in Nintendo of
Speaker 4: some people who want it, but ultimately somebody the tops like, nah, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think.
Speaker 3: So case by case basis though Zelda's got.
Speaker 2: Them in the games themselves right there. This was definitely
Speaker 2: asked about system level, but you're.
Speaker 3: Right, I know people really like thatied system.
Speaker 1: I know. M yeah, what's no hold on? What's the
Speaker 1: Mario Kart achievement that you wish you could get? Roy Tracing?
Speaker 2: So no shop music, shop music, Yeah, there's they're not
Speaker 2: gonna have U shop music, and they're like it's likely
Speaker 2: never to return, and it's for the reason that I
Speaker 2: think you would guess. They just want to focus on
Speaker 2: the performance of the shop. And then they also had
Speaker 2: so many games have videos and trailers built into their
Speaker 2: store page. Now they don't want to have to stop
Speaker 2: the music so you could start that up. They just
Speaker 2: thought that would be weird.
Speaker 4: But there's a spirit to the question that isn't just
Speaker 4: about music. It's about making this stuff kind of fun
Speaker 4: and aesthetically interesting. Even if you can't do yeah, you
Speaker 4: can mute the music you sick of.
Speaker 1: Real issue.
Speaker 2: Yep, it's nuts, but I don't think it's ever coming back,
Speaker 2: and it's for Nintendo reasons.
Speaker 1: At this point.
Speaker 2: Let's see Nintendo says it will continue so to support
Speaker 2: Switch one because they got to sell you video games
Speaker 2: on something and I'm gonna be able to sell a
Speaker 2: switch to They also think we want to keep players
Speaker 2: engaged and we like had that Switch one direct that
Speaker 2: has games coming out in twenty twenty six, it was
Speaker 2: very clear that they were going to do that, and
Speaker 2: with backward compatibility, it won't be like a three DS
Speaker 2: situation where the three DS got left behind.
Speaker 5: Well, it kind of rinds me like remember when DS
Speaker 5: came out and they were like, oh okay, boys not
Speaker 5: dead pretty much top with the game after that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're so way on that new game Boy.
Speaker 1: We thought we were gonna gonna get there.
Speaker 2: Hades two will be a Nintendo Switch to exclusive. Oh wait, no,
Speaker 2: updated Switch one and to exclusive on console. Obviously it's
Speaker 2: already on Steam, but they did a Nintendo creator's voice
Speaker 2: video because again they love Hades and Nintendo huge fans
Speaker 2: of that game. Clearly they want to like they want
Speaker 2: to push it. So Hades two confirmed when it launches,
Speaker 2: it's gonna do the thing that Hades one did. It
Speaker 2: will launch in one point zero on Nintendo Switch first
Speaker 2: and then come to other consoles. So the first one
Speaker 2: did that right, Yeah, exactly, it did exactly that, and
Speaker 2: it sold a ton on Switch that it looked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it did.
Speaker 4: It's a video paying for this time exclusive. You think
Speaker 4: the Haities sep were just like happy to do it.
Speaker 1: Nope.
Speaker 2: I don't think Nintendo does that for one thing, and
Speaker 2: I think the Hades people are happy to do it because,
Speaker 2: for one, it worked out so well last time, and
Speaker 2: now because it did work out so well that Nintendo
Speaker 2: fell in love this company in this game, and it
Speaker 2: will just give them like a big spotlight in directs
Speaker 2: and things like that, so they can kind of.
Speaker 1: Trade that because that's worth a lot of them.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, it's sort of a like you know, obviously
Speaker 3: business thing there, but like sort of a friendship thing
Speaker 3: of like, oh, yeah, you're supporting us a lot, so yeah,
Speaker 3: well you know, we'll help you out with some stuff
Speaker 3: and everything like that. Like, yeah, that's probably what's going on.
Speaker 2: Actually, they saved sports Story and made it better and
Speaker 2: had it ready for the switch To launch that would
Speaker 2: move there. Yeah, visitors discover that switch To has already
Speaker 2: been added to the Nintendo Museum, so your experience is
Speaker 2: out of date.
Speaker 1: Dana, we go back. Dane and I are going back
Speaker 1: get some switch Tos while you're there. Yeah, for real
Speaker 1: smuggling for us. Uh.
Speaker 2: And then Nintendo is actively assessing what the trade war
Speaker 2: means for switch To. That's the last thing that they say.
Speaker 1: Same.
Speaker 4: It's been fun watching like some people I have interviewed
Speaker 4: Trinan and other people like just asking about the price
Speaker 4: and they kind of have to like even like not
Speaker 4: just a console, like hey, why is Mario Kart eighty dollars,
Speaker 4: and you know, they bring up variable pricing and stuff,
Speaker 4: but you know, it is funny when it's like trying
Speaker 4: to be like, well, because the game's so good, it's like, well,
Speaker 4: if you make yeah, if you make a game that
Speaker 4: you think is better than Marvel, does that mean that
Speaker 4: could cost ninety dollars?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And they don't.
Speaker 4: They don't really have a good excuse for that tech
Speaker 4: demo being ten bucks, like.
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's more than you think. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's weird.
Speaker 2: And then they said like ten dollars is not a
Speaker 2: lot of money. I'm like, well, that doesn't look like
Speaker 2: a lot of game either. So I don't know what
Speaker 2: you want from me, but yeah, this is you know,
Speaker 2: Bill Trennan, Doug Bowser, they're the marketing guys. They represent
Speaker 2: the marketing side of Nintendo, and so when you get
Speaker 2: answers from them, they have to position things so carefully
Speaker 2: and they have to like of like, and especially when
Speaker 2: they are asked about the price in tariffs, Bouser's gonna
Speaker 2: have to say, listen, everything we've done so far was
Speaker 2: perfect and on a saleable going forward, who knows what's
Speaker 2: going to happen, but it will be because other things
Speaker 2: have changed, not because previously or didn't account for something.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we'll see. I hope we get news from
Speaker 2: Nintendo tomorrow. But if I'm them, I don't feel like
Speaker 2: things have like settled down enough that I could give
Speaker 2: people a solid answer and.
Speaker 1: Feel good about it. So they really will have to.
Speaker 2: Come up with some plan to be agile going forward
Speaker 2: with this, and I just don't know what that could
Speaker 2: look like.
Speaker 1: You should just walk into the Best Buy and there's
Speaker 1: a big wheel, and you spin the wheel and that's
Speaker 1: how much you have to pay for the switch to
Speaker 1: It's like a bunch of different random numbers.
Speaker 2: Everybody, what would it average out to? Like six hundred?
Speaker 2: They still get that amount of money, but there's a
Speaker 2: chance you only have to pay like two fifty.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, can then record be tied to the wheel like
Speaker 4: a medieval device and taunting me the entire time?
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2: He's taunting you, even though he's the one strapped to
Speaker 2: the wheel, like still would be taunting people exactly.
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, you're gonna be paid twelve hundred four.
Speaker 1: I could see it. Yeah, I've used my foot to
Speaker 1: cover the one dollar.
Speaker 2: All right, more related Nintendo news, but not switched to
Speaker 2: necessarily unreleased Nintendo games allegedly leak online, including Retro Studios prototype.
Speaker 1: And I can't even read this. What's to say? Ridecer Racer?
Speaker 1: Remember that one that was good? I think that was
Speaker 1: that was fantastic?
Speaker 2: Yes, including Nintendo Switch Ridge Racer title, Lego Civilization, and
Speaker 2: an unannounced Retro Studios play called Harmony.
Speaker 1: Like SIV SIV but Lego. Yes, I think so. It's
Speaker 1: a really good idea. Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 4: Do you think it would go back to being uh
Speaker 4: like the Squares because it's Lego and not the Hexagons.
Speaker 1: I think it should that would to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they found a bunch of stuff here
Speaker 2: this uh, most of these games aren't gonna come.
Speaker 4: Out though, so yeah, that's At first when I saw so,
Speaker 4: I was really excited, like, oh crap, they're making a
Speaker 4: ridge racer switch WinGen. Was this from what twenty seventeen?
Speaker 4: Oh no, this game made. Looking at the video, it's
Speaker 4: it's very early. It looks to me like it was
Speaker 4: clearly a successor to those PSP Ridge Racer games that
Speaker 4: were basically a best of but with the boost system
Speaker 4: that we had starting in.
Speaker 2: Made an unreal five, so it seemed like they were
Speaker 2: kind of uprising all that stuff.
Speaker 4: So, you know, Lego good enough. I would have liked that. Gosh,
Speaker 4: I don't know, like we're getting this Arcade Archives thing.
Speaker 4: Hopefully there are still some plans for Ridge Racer in
Speaker 4: the future. I just want a new Ridge Racer game.
Speaker 1: Lego thank you Sorry, Oh no, go ahead.
Speaker 4: It's just say thank you to every thank you take
Speaker 4: all three hundred people who messaged me about this.
Speaker 1: By the way, seriously, I love that.
Speaker 4: As soon as anybody sees anything Ridge Racer, I get
Speaker 4: like Bombardo with like, hell yeah, people associate me with
Speaker 4: Ridge Racer.
Speaker 1: That rules Johnson Racer.
Speaker 4: I was clear like John linnits so number one Red
Speaker 4: Racer guy, Like, you know, I'm a happy second.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 2: Ah, let's see other things here. But this is a
Speaker 2: long expected Elder Scrolls for Oblivion could be released at
Speaker 2: any moment this month.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Kind of confirmed, but some other people, I guess, we're
Speaker 2: saying it's gonna shadow drop probably later in April. So
Speaker 2: they have apparently an Elder Scrolls online event. I think
Speaker 2: it would definitely happen after that, and then some people
Speaker 2: were mentioned that Microsoft might have an event later this month,
Speaker 2: the month, like the last week of the month. I
Speaker 2: think it'd probably happen around there. So yeah, but when
Speaker 2: it does happen, apparently it is going to be a
Speaker 2: shadow drop, so just kind of out of nowhere, Mike's grimacing.
Speaker 4: I'm still so skeptical shadow drops, rightly.
Speaker 1: Even for Oblivion, because it's not High Fi Rush.
Speaker 4: It's I understand that, and look, it'll probably find It's
Speaker 4: just it's I always get to this thing of like,
Speaker 4: all right, if we're saying that marketing doesn't matter, then
Speaker 4: why do we ever.
Speaker 1: Do it for things like this? There must be some
Speaker 1: value in it. I mean, look, maybe that whole thing
Speaker 1: is a lie.
Speaker 4: It's this think possibility, but that's upsetting too, and it's
Speaker 4: just it's just hard to know, right, Like you know,
Speaker 4: I've heard some people say, Wow, they did it for
Speaker 4: Ninja Guide into Black and that did well, didn't do well?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: I don't really know.
Speaker 1: Too Black is closed, like on the grand scale, I
Speaker 1: think that game is closer to High Fire Rush than
Speaker 1: it is Too Oblivio. Yes, that's just a big game
Speaker 1: game to be fair.
Speaker 3: Do you think that the excitement is diminished because this
Speaker 3: has leaked fairly, thoroughly, not necessarily an imagery, but just
Speaker 3: like how much people know about the planning for this
Speaker 3: where it's like, all right, just put it out there. Eventually,
Speaker 3: Oh it's a shadow rock that's not exciting anymore.
Speaker 1: It's hard to say.
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like you say, Sean, it's like
Speaker 4: the people who do know about this still, but that's
Speaker 4: like such a small group.
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at all the people who were
Speaker 1: absolutely shocked.
Speaker 4: About Donkey Kong Bonanza when you know, I was surprised,
Speaker 4: but we had heard that this was a possibility.
Speaker 1: Jeff, I saw your hand up. Please.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just this is a I gotta ask you a
Speaker 2: question that's unrelated. If Square Enix were to tweet an
Speaker 2: image it says, my memories will be part of the sky.
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 4: Oh my, it's like that is a I believe that
Speaker 4: is a quote from the ending of Found Fantasy nine,
Speaker 4: if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2: He says, if you know, you know, I do know.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean they continue to tease that game.
Speaker 2: This is still not confirmation, but yeah, yeah, but again.
Speaker 4: It's like it is the anniversary of that game. They've
Speaker 4: been doing stuff, so they could just still be getting
Speaker 4: cute with that point. I still, oh, I still want
Speaker 4: to see some foun Fantasy nine stuff. They'll shadow drop
Speaker 4: that too.
Speaker 1: I'm sure if if I liked Final Fantasy seven a lot,
Speaker 1: which and I would say that Final Fantasy seven was
Speaker 1: the first one I played for real, because I played
Speaker 1: Final Fantasy which ones were on the game Boy Advance,
Speaker 1: so that was three of them.
Speaker 4: There was Don in Sorrow, which was one and two together,
Speaker 4: and then four, five and six the.
Speaker 1: S n S game, So I think I played Donald Sorrow,
Speaker 1: Don Soul the Man talking again. What I like nine?
Speaker 1: If I like, yeah, seven and the same.
Speaker 3: If you like because the more traditional fantasy aesthetic, Yeah.
Speaker 4: I think you'd love it because it's basically more of
Speaker 4: the like the old school aesthetic of the Super Nintendo
Speaker 4: Ones with the presentation chops of seven, a lot of
Speaker 4: the gameplay stuff from seven, still that active time bat
Speaker 4: you'd like nine a lot.
Speaker 1: Nine is great? Great, Well, I hope they'd make it
Speaker 1: again so I can play it.
Speaker 2: Last thing, the Minecraft movie Mike's favorite movie of the year.
Speaker 2: Have you seen any other movie in theaters this year, I.
Speaker 4: Saw that Looney Tunes movie that most people don't know.
Speaker 4: I said, I liked that. That was really fun. It
Speaker 4: probably made like six million dollars, so probably made a
Speaker 4: fraction of a fraction of what Minecraft's doing.
Speaker 2: That's interesting to bring that up because Minecraft Movie broke
Speaker 2: records with a one hundred and fifty seven million dollar
Speaker 2: US opening weekend, surpassing the Super Mario Brothers movie. And also,
Speaker 2: let's see here, I think it made some like three
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty dollars three here and fifty million dollars
Speaker 2: globally in its first weekend.
Speaker 1: That's pretty It's.
Speaker 4: Already made any more in the US in that opening
Speaker 4: weekend the Detective Pikachu ever did in the US.
Speaker 1: That's pretty well. That's nuts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were trying to diagnose this on your stream,
Speaker 2: and I don't have a good answer for this as well.
Speaker 2: I think it's like Detective Pikaju just had this vibe
Speaker 2: that kids didn't like.
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Oh, you're comparing because of the style.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm like, why did Minecraft make so much money
Speaker 2: and Detective Pikachu didn't.
Speaker 1: I just want to answer to that. Well, movie, just
Speaker 1: tell me if you know, I'm happy to hear it.
Speaker 3: Minecraft. That's it, end of story. It's the big Minecraft,
Speaker 3: just as Minecraft. Like kids use minecrafts are like, we
Speaker 3: gotta do the Minecraft thing to their parents.
Speaker 1: I thought they did that for Pikachu. That's all. Is
Speaker 1: my big worldwide with kids.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeahs not popular with kids anymore because.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the enthusiasm for a Pokemon movie would
Speaker 3: be the same. It wouldn't be in the same way,
Speaker 3: you know, because like kids just are ravenous about Like
Speaker 3: think about the Fortnite movie, you know, where it's got
Speaker 3: like or whatever, and like all the kids are go
Speaker 3: go nuts for it. Yeah, it's I also bet they are,
Speaker 3: so Chad is pointing out Detective Pokemon is like, not
Speaker 3: really what you think is really what you think? It's
Speaker 3: point thing Pokemon.
Speaker 1: It's a movie that has Pokemon in it. It is not,
Speaker 1: but it is also yes, obviously a Pokemon movie, but
Speaker 1: it is, Like I think you're right.
Speaker 2: I know you're saying that. Yeah, I agree. I think
Speaker 2: that's a big part of it. Honestly, I think if
Speaker 2: they shoot, like if a Pokemon movie came out the
Speaker 2: same vibes as this Minecraft movie, I don't know if
Speaker 2: it would do minecraft numbers, but I think it would
Speaker 2: be closer.
Speaker 1: To like Mario. Yeah, so yeah, I think so.
Speaker 2: All right, that does for the news that I've I've
Speaker 2: gathered here and collated for everybody. I'm handing this show
Speaker 2: back over to our host Nicki Grayson.
Speaker 1: Thank you, I have it for not watching the program.
Speaker 1: Jeff had a small basketball and just threw it at
Speaker 1: a wall and knocked over like three things one thing,
Speaker 1: and I caught it with my foot, thank you very much.
Speaker 2: I don't want to say what it was because it's
Speaker 2: an expensive thing and it's embarrassing I saw it.
Speaker 1: Well, folks, that's it for the news. Nothing else will
Speaker 1: happen because we've talked about all of it. Never again,
Speaker 1: never again. We will be back momentarily with some electronic males. Wow.
Speaker 5: So there was Jingle Boom that was their Christmas one.
Speaker 5: That was their third song, right, and then there's we
Speaker 5: Bring the Boom was the original one, that's.
Speaker 1: The DK one, that's that's that's the yes.
Speaker 5: Still bringing it was another one, but then the new
Speaker 5: one is just unbelievably terrible.
Speaker 1: You should say, actually batter you just still kind of I.
Speaker 5: Want you to hear it, Kim, can we do the
Speaker 5: audio on.
Speaker 1: Theo Oh, are you saying Nikky that he's beefing? Are
Speaker 1: you trying to still be beef.
Speaker 5: I still follow them. I still like their stuff. I
Speaker 5: think it's on TikTok.
Speaker 1: You love playing ees as well.
Speaker 5: I like playing Ease. That's a good videos.
Speaker 1: It's just the one where they say ohio a lot.
Speaker 5: They do say ohio a lot And Okay, here it is.
Speaker 5: I got the the link here, I'll put in the
Speaker 5: chatays always gonna boom aj in Big Justice. Yeah, it's
Speaker 5: it's really terrible. And there's this new guy that just
Speaker 5: talks and memes and he's not part of the family.
Speaker 1: So yeah, wait, they got an outsider in the Yeah, he's.
Speaker 5: An outsider who does like these meme songs, and so
Speaker 5: he says the way he says quarterback in this song
Speaker 5: makes me so mad. I don't know if way to
Speaker 5: say that. He did a new way.
Speaker 1: To say quarterback, and it's awful. He's got a new
Speaker 1: way to say quarterback. They dropped a new way to
Speaker 1: say quarterback.
Speaker 5: And apparently it's a reference to a meme and I
Speaker 5: had to look it that. It was like, why is
Speaker 5: he talking about what's that's my name? Quarterback or whatever?
Speaker 2: People were mad that we're talking about just get shown
Speaker 2: on social media. He insisted this is all his idea.
Speaker 1: A j Big Justice started this ship. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: you're a dope.
Speaker 3: Here we go here.
Speaker 1: Can you do the video? No, I just have the music.
Speaker 4: They're walking backwards a lot. That's all what's happening.
Speaker 1: In the video. See kids like Pokemon.
Speaker 4: You love this the greatest thing ever.
Speaker 1: I'm sending this to my wife as soon as we're
Speaker 1: done here.
Speaker 5: You jelly House is the guy who jumped in on this.
Speaker 1: He's a whistler, is doing something.
Speaker 5: Oh that's yeah. You didn't get to the second. It's
Speaker 5: broke up into two different things. Damn you didn't even
Speaker 5: see the real bad quarterback.
Speaker 1: No, I'm looking for a second part.
Speaker 2: They have like five thousand videos though, so I don't
Speaker 2: know why is Big Justices?
Speaker 1: Why is his.
Speaker 2: Name like an American flag?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, Well.
Speaker 5: What a new song about anxiety?
Speaker 1: Senator? Oh okay, for anxiety?
Speaker 5: I would give it a doom.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, someone have to play the part two in checks.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to go through all these videos. And
Speaker 1: he has a nation cruise to Rebecca Black over the
Speaker 1: Friday Music.
Speaker 2: I feel real bad about that because she's hot now.
Speaker 1: But that's all. Yeah, all we're doing now, okay, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Rebecca Black will be performing at the.
Speaker 3: It has been slain audio listeners.
Speaker 1: This guy, we bring the ball tik tako alive. I'll go.
Speaker 1: Patrick's is not the same part? No, not the same.
Speaker 1: Let when we to the room, it's let me hear
Speaker 1: you never gonna doom joom zoom.
Speaker 5: Just not what we just hurts the back to the same,
Speaker 5: never gonna.
Speaker 1: I think this song is good. Yeah, here's more. Here's more.
Speaker 3: Sure about them?
Speaker 5: Oh no, one grab.
Speaker 1: Right away.
Speaker 5: And now we gotta find another. That one's listed as
Speaker 5: part one?
Speaker 1: What is this? What list? It is? Okay? Actually, can
Speaker 1: we talk about what Donkey Kong games are? Mainline? Somehow
Speaker 1: that sounds.
Speaker 5: I'm moving the gold books.
Speaker 1: Play the emails music please emails uh email addresses bombcasts
Speaker 1: on bomb dot com. That's where you can send an
Speaker 1: email to us. I've never seen the email in box,
Speaker 1: so I assume it's only good stuff in there. When
Speaker 1: you have to put an email address in for something
Speaker 1: you're signing up for, you should just use the BombCast email.
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming back to this, just just use the BombCast
Speaker 2: email one time.
Speaker 1: It was I think it was mid pandemic, like midpan pandemic.
Speaker 1: It was the summer of lockdown. I signed John Warren
Speaker 1: of vgb's up for a knife defense class because I
Speaker 1: thought that would be funny. And the second email they
Speaker 1: sent him had an unbelievably graphic image of a guy
Speaker 1: who had been sliced open by a big knife. Gez
Speaker 1: just in the email. In the email was a picture
Speaker 1: of a guy who had been sliced open by a knife.
Speaker 1: So don't do that ideally, but game yeah, no gore please,
Speaker 1: but vore maybe bombcastigiant bomb dot com. This one comes
Speaker 1: in from Kevin in Tennessee. Any S must have is? Hey,
Speaker 1: bomb crew, what are some of your lesser known must
Speaker 1: play and S titles? I've started collecting recently and I
Speaker 1: fell in love with Blades of Steel. I also bought
Speaker 1: Fester's Quest after Blight Club. Wish me luck, Love, Kevin
Speaker 1: from Tennessee, Son. The black iPhone Steel is very good.
Speaker 1: I preferred ice hockey. Ice hockey is my favorite hockey game.
Speaker 2: Let me make sure ice hockey is that the one
Speaker 2: where you select skinny guy, middle guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a great concept. The fat guy. It's like
Speaker 1: you're just your.
Speaker 5: Guy, just a team of three fat guys. You're just
Speaker 5: reckoning out one. It's incredible play. So I don't know
Speaker 5: if it is pick the fat guy. Kickle Cubicle is
Speaker 5: one that no one ever talks about, and I love
Speaker 5: kickle Cubicle. And recently Mike was talking about, uh a
Speaker 5: little Nemo the Dreammasters, fantastic.
Speaker 4: That's a great capcom one. Another fun capcom one is
Speaker 4: Yo Nooid. It's starting the guy from Domino's Pizza. My
Speaker 4: sports game that nobody talks about that I liked was
Speaker 4: Bad News Baseball. Everybody does RBI Baseball, but I like.
Speaker 1: I do Bass Wars Robots playing base Wars.
Speaker 2: That was gonna be like, if you're playing sports games,
Speaker 2: forget that nerd ship that News Baseball, get some bass
Speaker 2: Wars has robots.
Speaker 5: Robots like five Baseballs out as a pitch.
Speaker 1: Yes, threads robots.
Speaker 4: A better Sunsoft license, top down kind of action game
Speaker 4: would be Gremlin's to the New Batch. Credible music and
Speaker 4: that was well. Also, Journey to Silly As is a
Speaker 4: great sun Soft game that maybe you have or have
Speaker 4: not heard of. Check that one out as well.
Speaker 5: Right, Radical Ninja.
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good I really I had a great
Speaker 1: time making that one.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah when you were Kidney?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, I got it.
Speaker 2: I can't be alone in this. I can't be the
Speaker 2: only one who just heard this. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: You should go back do it again?
Speaker 5: Okay, everyone, Hey, will you take it again?
Speaker 6: It was.
Speaker 5: Quarterback. I was on stream the other night and I'm
Speaker 5: just who is this motherfucker? And I looked up his
Speaker 5: name is jelly House. Go to his YouTube and watch anything.
Speaker 5: Oh wait, it's like it's likely tought of chicken. How
Speaker 5: to say the word quarterback?
Speaker 1: Quarter back?
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, if the world was edging is the name
Speaker 5: of his son? Yeah, that's right. I'm gonna post that
Speaker 5: in the chat. This is if the world was edging?
Speaker 1: Us the juice? Get us the juice? All right?
Speaker 3: Hang on?
Speaker 1: Is this like if if I could buy the world
Speaker 1: a coke? Yeah?
Speaker 5: But he's wearing the same ship yeah and walking backwards again?
Speaker 1: Is he related to rollants.
Speaker 6: And phantom tags? And happened in Egypt? What are you
Speaker 6: out streaming? Were you in the war room? Sip and Johnny?
Speaker 6: Welcome ma man, it's a bear. Now think I'm gonna
Speaker 6: crash out.
Speaker 1: He's just saying thanks from the internet and protest stop
Speaker 1: stop protest. I'm gonna scream up right now.
Speaker 4: No more stop stop stop?
Speaker 1: Did it stop some more? Stop?
Speaker 4: Stop?
Speaker 1: Stop up Hello bodcast, I promised this trivia.
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is none of this would happen
Speaker 2: of jan here.
Speaker 5: Like oor way more of it or way more the
Speaker 5: right one or the other. Yeah, yeah, hell, I think
Speaker 5: because Mike too much, we need to get more promise.
Speaker 1: This piece of trivia is nicer than last week's chainsaw one.
Speaker 1: Bubble Wrap was originally created by two inventors putting two
Speaker 1: plastic shower curtains together for the purposes of a textured
Speaker 1: and insulated wallpaper that did and work. When they heeded
Speaker 1: the two shower curtains together, it produced bubbles between the curtains.
Speaker 1: They then thought it could be used as an insulator
Speaker 1: for greenhouses, which it didn't. They patented it for loads
Speaker 1: of things, including a sob condensation on toilet tanks, but
Speaker 1: none of it worked. Finally, IBM needed something to put
Speaker 1: in their boxes for shipping computer parts, which actually worked.
Speaker 1: Thanks for all you do, Simon from Saskatchewan.
Speaker 2: Funny, you could invent something and it could just be
Speaker 2: ship for five hundred iterations and finally, so I guess
Speaker 2: works for this and now I can make money. That's
Speaker 2: a sticky notes. They were trying to create like really
Speaker 2: strong glue for airplanes and like, so we need the
Speaker 2: strongest glue that's ever been made, and they're like, well
Speaker 2: we tried to do it. Here it is and it
Speaker 2: was the weakest glue.
Speaker 1: Possibly need weak glue? Floor, Yeah, here we have Look
Speaker 1: I put the paper on there. Yeah, yeah, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, Simon, thank you for all you do. You know,
Speaker 1: oh Simon or me? Are you thinking I'll let you pick?
Speaker 4: I did just save you from the meme songs fucking.
Speaker 1: Stop light on the Mountain tonight.
Speaker 4: To Kingdom of I chorus and it looks like I'm
Speaker 4: the queen and the snow is whirling like a thunderstorm inside.
Speaker 1: Couldn't keep thicking. Heaven knows, I tried. I think it stopped.
Speaker 1: I think it stopped. For hey, gang, remember that time
Speaker 1: the British government made you pay too much for your
Speaker 1: tea so you had our capital, our revolution. You should
Speaker 1: do that again. But for the switch to you could
Speaker 1: call it the Nintendo Revolution. Well that's pretty good. Seriously, though, I.
Speaker 5: Don't think Mike should be able to filibuster a bitch
Speaker 5: by singing Disney.
Speaker 1: I think that's a great I am getting what he wants.
Speaker 1: He does know a lot of Disney songs.
Speaker 5: You know, it's scary.
Speaker 3: Jeff, are you recording these songs for a local track?
Speaker 5: You could say, Sean and time them right?
Speaker 1: A show will in New jack City. Uh, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's true. Thanks appreciating. Let email again. I feel bad
Speaker 1: if you all start over. Hey, gang, remember that time
Speaker 1: the British government made Uke welded it.
Speaker 4: I went to I went to the Boston Tea Party
Speaker 4: Museum in Boston last year.
Speaker 1: We were there for Pexy Soun was great. It's a
Speaker 1: pretty good museum. It's like a show. It's like a yeah,
Speaker 1: you're a character in it. It's dinner show. There was
Speaker 1: no dinner. You can buy tea at the end, teas
Speaker 1: dinner if you're poor. Next question, Fargo TV in the bedroom.
Speaker 1: This is a yes or no question. Okay, for I.
Speaker 4: Thought it was TP like toilet paper like it was
Speaker 4: corn who wrote this.
Speaker 1: I have toilet paper in the bedroom because sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't have tissue box sometimes tolet toilet paper.
Speaker 5: Bedroom over over TV.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: As a kid, I loved having a TV in my bedroom.
Speaker 1: It's an adult se No.
Speaker 4: I look, I love I don't have a TV amore.
Speaker 4: It's just because I have a laptop that I use
Speaker 4: as a TV in there. But no, I loved having
Speaker 4: a TV and I need to. I know it's maybe
Speaker 4: impacting my sleep, but I like that time too much.
Speaker 4: I love my in bed just watching ship and playing
Speaker 4: the best.
Speaker 1: Part of the day. It's the best part of the day.
Speaker 1: I'm not sacrificing that for anything. My room is the
Speaker 1: front room of this house. It's the living room, and
Speaker 1: I have split it up into two distinct zones, so
Speaker 1: I have the living room side in the bedroom side,
Speaker 1: and there's no bedroom. I can't see the TV, particularly
Speaker 1: from the bed, which was intentional, and I have the
Speaker 1: couch in front of the TV. But normally I am.
Speaker 1: I do not think there should be a TV in
Speaker 1: the bedroom. I think it makes me sick.
Speaker 2: It's like the TV specific what Mike, what you described
Speaker 2: like switch and stuff. I do feel like TV in
Speaker 2: the bedroom feels like wearing a robe on a weekday.
Speaker 2: Like during the day. Something about it just feels slovenly.
Speaker 2: What's that word like, Yeah, slabbish, slovenly.
Speaker 1: I get you.
Speaker 4: You know what's messed up is that the audio version
Speaker 4: of this podcast is not gonna have those songs. It's
Speaker 4: just gonna have me screaming and everything.
Speaker 1: Get mad at me. That's not realizing. Just take the
Speaker 1: back up audio for that part.
Speaker 2: Please, no, just you don't do that anymore because I
Speaker 2: have got it set up correctly now.
Speaker 1: So if we want more music.
Speaker 6: If the world was edging.
Speaker 1: That, if the world was edging, oh my god, God,
Speaker 1: whoa what note was that? Buddy? All right, I've had enough.
Speaker 2: Also, boy, just now, when you have your breck at
Speaker 2: black Glow up, maybe get come back later.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: Episodes we made a long time, you know.
Speaker 1: We listen and listen. There's there's always got to be
Speaker 1: a last one, uh, the folks. I was recently playing
Speaker 1: Allan Wake two, and for a good portion of the
Speaker 1: game I thought it might be one of my favorite
Speaker 1: games of all time. It unraveled for me a little
Speaker 1: in the back end of the game, but then my
Speaker 1: enthusiasm for it was completely destroyed by and this is
Speaker 1: a spoiler. Okay, are you ready for Allen Wake t spoilers? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the decision to force players to play through the twenty
Speaker 1: hour plus game for a second time to get the
Speaker 1: true ending. I believe this was an update to made
Speaker 1: some time after initial release. What is this some ghosts
Speaker 1: and goblins tribute that's in reference for old people? That
Speaker 1: created decision? That created decision left such a bad taste
Speaker 1: in my mouth that it's killed any love I had
Speaker 1: for the game, and even, at least for the time being,
Speaker 1: any interest I have for any future remedy project. Has
Speaker 1: there ever been a single creative decision made in a
Speaker 1: piece of work that you've otherwise loved that just led
Speaker 1: you to walking away from it forever? Love? CJ from Wellington,
Speaker 1: New Zealand. PS. I don't have anything fun to say
Speaker 1: in a PS, but it just seems to be what
Speaker 1: people do around these parts. Thank you, CJ. Wellington is
Speaker 1: one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been into
Speaker 1: my entire life. Congratulations on living there. Yeah, does anyone
Speaker 1: have any creative decisions that made them so mad they
Speaker 1: walked away forever?
Speaker 5: There was that room and mirror's edge.
Speaker 3: You had to look up and yeah.
Speaker 1: People turn around.
Speaker 4: I don't know about like walk away forever. I hate
Speaker 4: to bring this thing up again, but the ending of
Speaker 4: Mass Effectory was so bad. I don't think I ever
Speaker 4: quite really respected that series.
Speaker 5: Again, I did not understand that blowback. I thought it
Speaker 5: was totally fine.
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was such a bad that was
Speaker 1: okay bullshit. Yeah it was nothing.
Speaker 2: It did not come up to what they were said
Speaker 2: it would be.
Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't have to drudge up this very
Speaker 1: old argument. But no, let's fight about it. Let's start
Speaker 1: check in with the meme guy. Yeah, okay, that's good.
Speaker 4: I seem like, I will say, it seems like everybody
Speaker 4: is on your guys's side.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, it wasn't that bad.
Speaker 4: I see some people be like, oh, changing it was
Speaker 4: bad for arts in general.
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought it was really bad relative
Speaker 1: to the blowback because you're not you. We just didn't.
Speaker 2: You weren't involved in the blowback. You weren't being a
Speaker 2: crazy person in mine. I just didn't like it.
Speaker 4: Who knows, it was like two thousand and ten. Who
Speaker 4: knows what I was up to, But.
Speaker 2: I don't think I was listening to little Exploding bar
Speaker 2: all the time you were not attacking the mass effect developers, sure.
Speaker 1: But like it was.
Speaker 2: I just like, at this point, relative to the blowback,
Speaker 2: I'm just like, yeah, this was totally fine.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people. The good I
Speaker 1: was people should be allowed to end ship poorly if
Speaker 1: they want.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I don't think they, but yeah, I felt
Speaker 8: that way about like the Matrix sequels that I just like,
Speaker 8: I don't want all this stuff in the real world,
Speaker 8: you know, like this is kind of like I like
Speaker 8: this stuff when they're on the highway doing cool stuff
Speaker 8: in the matrix, but the real world stuff if that sucked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I don't think. Well it's hard if
Speaker 1: Game of Thrones is not a video game, but this is.
Speaker 1: It's the one that came into my mind to answer
Speaker 1: this question, and I started to be like, oh, Game
Speaker 1: of Thrones, I liked it. But then I was like, actually,
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever liked Game of Thrones
Speaker 1: very much, but oh, but that did get me how
Speaker 1: I met your mother? The end of that tell, the
Speaker 1: last season of that TV show has made me more
Speaker 1: mad than I think anything I've ever consumed in my life,
Speaker 1: because it it made me retroactively hate the multiple years
Speaker 1: of television watching enjoyment that I had, and then it
Speaker 1: made me sad that I had spent so much fucking time.
Speaker 2: TV show that, yeah, because it's years, it's not a video,
Speaker 2: yeah yeah, and it's like an time investment of my life.
Speaker 2: I do add that up in terms of like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I've been watching this for years. Oh it's hours of TV, sure,
Speaker 2: but I've spent years thinking about it. And then here's
Speaker 2: your answer they had with like Battlestar Galactica for sure,
Speaker 2: where I'm like, oh, that was one of my favorite shows,
Speaker 2: and it's like, oh, you just didn't have good answers
Speaker 2: for all these things you wanted me to think about.
Speaker 2: Why was I spending my time thinking about it?
Speaker 1: But you clearly weren't the worst part about not to
Speaker 1: fucking get on the fuck how I Met Your Mother horse.
Speaker 1: I can't respect when people don't have the the fucking
Speaker 1: courage to stand by the decision because they made an
Speaker 1: ending to that program that was would have been boring
Speaker 1: but better, and they were like it'll be on the DVD,
Speaker 1: which probably Oh really I met your mother? Oh they did?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's really annoying. I am.
Speaker 4: I used to like start Trek a lot, and I
Speaker 4: was excited with the Picard revival and like I didn't
Speaker 4: stop watching immediately, but that whole first season was really weird.
Speaker 4: They kept doing strange things and kind of gory things,
Speaker 4: and they're like one scene where I had to watch
Speaker 4: a guy while restrained, get his eyeball kind of plucked out.
Speaker 1: And then the re cut and like showed.
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, why am I watching this on
Speaker 4: us Star Trek? It looks like a big like what
Speaker 4: does even happen? What is going on anymore? It's like
Speaker 4: it's hard to ever go back or tear again.
Speaker 1: That's tough. We've got one more email, Uno mass Hey
Speaker 1: bomb Gang, first time long time. Just wanted to shout
Speaker 1: out the crew for doing an insane amount of work.
Speaker 1: I love the addition of Mike manaughty and love it
Speaker 1: even more when he's being a fuddy duddy, along with
Speaker 1: the injection of youth from GB Kids is a Powerhouse
Speaker 1: and Dan is dan parentheses super positive. Good stuff, Gang,
Speaker 1: When did you realize your pet was smarter than you thought?
Speaker 1: Cheer singular Jan from San Francisco, whoever that is.
Speaker 5: You don't know My dogs I'm smarter than my dogs.
Speaker 1: The no, I don't know.
Speaker 3: Gizmo seems like he knows what's going on there. You
Speaker 3: know Razor laws, No, Razor smarter like Razor.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's dads comes in with sane, But Gizmo
Speaker 5: is just cute and dumb as rocks.
Speaker 1: Yeah. One time, like shortly after I moved into my
Speaker 1: apartment in Providence, I set up my TV and then
Speaker 1: I put the remote down, and then I lost the remote.
Speaker 1: The remote was fucking gone, and I was kind of
Speaker 1: just stracked because I, like was I had just moved
Speaker 1: and didn't even really have the like the liquidity to
Speaker 1: buy another TV remote, So I was kind of pissed.
Speaker 1: And then eventually I got the I got the new remote,
Speaker 1: and I put the batteries in and I put it
Speaker 1: on the table and then I swear to fucking God,
Speaker 1: ten minutes after I put the remote on the table,
Speaker 1: Barley comes out with the remote in her mouth. This
Speaker 1: dog does not carry things in her mouth. It is
Speaker 1: the only time I've ever seen her do it. Offer
Speaker 1: this dog a stick or a ball to play with.
Speaker 1: She says, what do you think I am? Pull? What's this?
Speaker 1: This is this? I watched television. I am not going
Speaker 1: to Yeah, it is now stick in my mouth and no,
Speaker 1: his dog fucking walks in with the remote in her
Speaker 1: mouth and I'm like, you, motherfucker, like you could do
Speaker 1: you can do so much thing, so many things. You
Speaker 1: were actively making decisions and choices to not do the
Speaker 1: things that I'm asking you to do. And I was like,
Speaker 1: I respect you more this way.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that person said a lot of nice things
Speaker 4: about our show.
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if we could get a check
Speaker 1: back in next week after they listen to this.
Speaker 3: One way or another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think gang that is going to be it
Speaker 1: for this week's edition of the Giant Bomb Cast. Don't
Speaker 1: go anywhere though, known Tabby Touchy because Tam is going
Speaker 1: to play South of Midnight in just a couple of minutes,
Speaker 1: depending on how long this outro takes, and at this
Speaker 1: rate that could take another forty minutes. You want to
Speaker 1: play Joe played jelly House for the next fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: We're just going to be great. So yeah, don't don't
Speaker 1: touch that tab No Tabby Touchy. Tim is going to
Speaker 1: play South at midnight tomorrow and for the rest of
Speaker 1: the week. We've got game breaking news. We've got dump
Speaker 1: truck on thys Day Over Grub episode three, tomorrow. Listen,
Speaker 1: that fucker is dead. You know out there he's dead.
Speaker 1: Why did you listen? Did you never love people like
Speaker 1: you should? And that's not true. I've always I love people.
Speaker 1: I've never said anything bad about people.
Speaker 5: I don't know what you did.
Speaker 1: The thing about people is he was with us for
Speaker 1: so long, for so long, and that's why I love
Speaker 1: him so much. Over So that's tomorrow over Grub.
Speaker 5: Yes, changing the time a little bit, Yeah in the day, Yeah,
Speaker 5: one pm.
Speaker 2: I think it's one huge Eastern time.
Speaker 1: We Eastern, okay. And then we've got Marvel Rivals season
Speaker 1: two stuff popping off this week. We're gonna play a
Speaker 1: little bit of blue prints. Uh and then on upf
Speaker 1: should we announce it? Now? What what our plans are? Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do it? Opening a supermarket. Oh no, let's go back.
Speaker 1: Remember when I said we might be out of here
Speaker 1: and then the int the exit might take a long time.
Speaker 1: Where are you getting wax? I'm joking, it was a
Speaker 1: funny bit. Oh I'm sorry, Well, now you gotta go
Speaker 1: get wax. But ye guilt them into getting wax. Now
Speaker 1: we are opening a supermarket. We're gonna play Supermarket together
Speaker 1: on UPF this weekend. Uh. Then, yeah, it's in your genes.
Speaker 1: It's a blood record, the return of records market. That's
Speaker 1: what the bloodline is actually about. Record acknowledge me as
Speaker 1: I put a kit kat into the shopping cart and
Speaker 1: Sean did a bunch of computer work recently downloaded all
Speaker 1: of Steal My Sunshine, which is one of my favorite
Speaker 1: GB features. Uh and now that's free for you on
Speaker 1: YouTube dot com. Uh, free for you and for anybody.
Speaker 1: So just go go ahead and watch Steal My Sunshine.
Speaker 1: It's a good game. I think that one's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite ones because the cadence that you play it in.
Speaker 1: None of you are playing it for long enough to
Speaker 1: learn how the game works. And also you play it
Speaker 1: so infrequently that you don't remember you you got to
Speaker 1: play it, but Abby, Vinnie and Alex have no recollection
Speaker 1: by the time it comes back around. So it's something
Speaker 1: like the best memory. Yes, it was impossible. It's it's
Speaker 1: one of my fucking favorites. So go go watch Steal
Speaker 1: My Sunshine. And I think that's it. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for listening. So I think actually, you know what, Sean,
Speaker 1: just turn it off there, just don't even don't even
Speaker 1: do anything, just kind of fade us out.