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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody. So here's the thing. So here's the thing.

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Everybody in Tuesday. Welcome to the Giant Podcast. I have

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your host for this week, Nikki Grayson, with me as always,

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I have a cavalcade of chuckle fucks, and we're gonna

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we're gonna talk about video games. But I'm just want

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to walk us all through what happened. Sean goes, listen,

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you know where the key is the music will happen.

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You're watching the stream, right, And I said absolutely, But yeah, yeah, yeah,

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for sure. I click on the stream, the music starts

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for two seconds and then I get a big error

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on the scream that says streaming pause dermashun has minimize

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the application sit.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's it. That's it for me. I came back

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for a second. I was, I came back.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but welcome.

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Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure the music went through everyone at home.

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Speaker 1: That's all that matters is that we made it here

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together on this fine Tuesday, April eighth, at nine to

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eleven am. What does it mean? That's true? All facts

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with me, as always, this is the normal cast for

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the show, always has been, always has been, and always

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will be. I have Sean Turbashawn McDowell, Hello, Sean.

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Speaker 3: Hi, as everyone knows deep within you spiritually, there are

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two jams. We have host Jan and producer Jan. I

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took both of the GB kids to uh you know,

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complete that jam.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, two guys is one guy. Sometimes. I also

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have the bad boy of games media, Mike Manati do

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so many bad things.

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Speaker 4: I must still be the bad boy of Gabe, Like

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how bad I am?

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Speaker 1: Listen to my bad voice. Always say that your voice

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is so bad, Mike. But Michael Jackson Yeah yeah, Uh,

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Dan Reiker, how are you on this fine day?

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Speaker 5: I'm doing all right and I'm feeling fine. I woke

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up and had a breakfast and coffee like always, I'm good.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude, listen. As long as you can have that,

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nothing bad can happen. And the continued co captain of

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this ship that frankly, I didn't understand why your co

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captaincy does not afford you the ability to become captain

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when the other captain is gone. I'm busy. Ah yeah, Jeff, Hi,

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I'm here.

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Speaker 2: You said bad the Michael Jackson bad, And it took

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me several seconds to decode which Michael Jackson bad?

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Speaker 1: We were talking about. It's kind of a.

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Speaker 2: Numerous bads. Now anyway, you think, okay, so we couldn't

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get the UK switch to. Do you think we maybe

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I'm like about to call off store in.

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Speaker 5: France and we Russian switch ts. We were trying to

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British ones. Today, I think Russians get Russian switch to. Actually,

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so do Russians have video games?

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't think they get video games in this

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moment in time from other countries due to trade embargoes

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and all that stuff. They're an a war with Ukraine

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and so they don't usually right now.

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Speaker 1: They don't get a lot of stuff.

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Speaker 5: PlayStations in Russia.

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Speaker 2: I think they had previously had PlayStations, but they started

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a new war through Ukraine. That put anyway, can't don't

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worry about it. Don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Don'try about it. I'm Jaesius. Seriously, you can't. If you

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wanted to go to Russian best buy right now and

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buy a PlayStation, you couldn't. You can't do it. If

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you got a PlayStation from before, or a guy got

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you a PlayStation and brought it to you, you could

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probably connect it and use it.

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Speaker 5: But they make PlayStations in Japan, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but but the Japan likes to do business with

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the United States, and the United States has embargoes with

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countries that try to do make money from Russia right now,

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and we'll put you know, we'll put a like secondary

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embargoes on you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. It's almost like you can't just make blanket decisions

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kind of unilaterally for no reason because it'll have what

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some people can it seems so. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They also we'll talk about this in the news, but

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they delayed pre orders in Canada, and I'm just we

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stop making them hate us, Like, I know, we're doing

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a good job ourselves, but that's yet another reason why

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they're going to be unhappy with us. I don't know

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what I'm gonna do. Like, do you guys think the

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switch to is actually gonna make the June fifth launch date?

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Speaker 1: Nope? Yeah, I think it'll make the date. I think

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it will also be seven hundred dollars.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's more likely. At this point, I had.

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Speaker 1: No idea it's going to happen. I have no idea.

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It's everything's weird, yep. I will switch to though, Yeah, No,

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that's the thing, right, It's like you just want it

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would be nice to have the toy should be able

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to machine toy. Yeah, that would be really nice. Can

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I talk about holiday in for a second? Yes, Okay,

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I was in Yes, exactly. The hotel was a holiday in.

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I was in leverk in Utah yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Why.

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Speaker 1: I went to Zion National Park.

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Speaker 5: That's a great national park. I've been at.

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Speaker 1: Place, fucking love it, delightful zone to be in. I

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was in the newest holiday in in Utah, which is

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the leverk in Utah holiday and which is outside of

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the park. Why is, Why are holiday inns like that?

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What's wrong? Elaborate? They feel liminal in a way that

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feels impossible to have designed, but a person, a team

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of people intentionally made them that way.

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Speaker 2: You said, so, you said it's the newest holiday in

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holiday inn in Utah, which I think is a weird sentence.

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Speaker 1: One that it's just the one that they built and

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opened the most recently.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but just like knowing that is there's something weird,

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like like all holiday ends just have always been their day.

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It does it like still look like a holiday inn?

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Speaker 1: Honestly, it looks like a hospital building. Yeah, okay, so

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like yeah, yeah, inside it that it faces to the

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to the where sun sets in the west. To the

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west it faces a big dirt lot, and then across

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the way you can see a supermarket and then it's

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the most beautiful landscape you've ever seen in your life.

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is the second most beautiful landscape you've ever re seats

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in your entire life.

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Speaker 2: You're describing like most holiday and like the holiday an

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is very nostalgic for me. That's where my family would

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say when we were like doing car road trips across.

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Speaker 1: The you know, the Midwest.

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Speaker 2: We wouldn't go very far, but like, yeah, the holiday

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inn is where I had the indoor outdoor pool, like

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you could swim under a wall and winter and it

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was all heated and that was really cool. And then

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you would swim back inside and it was just like

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the self contained. Like they would try to put a

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lot of outdoor greenery in a holiday inn, like in

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a space like this, but it's still had like tile everywhere,

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like everywhere you look, just Tilele Holiday Inn is very weird.

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I think the tile helps to make it feel extraliminal,

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like the space between places.

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Speaker 5: It's the newest one, like was it like built in

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nineteen ninety four they finish.

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Speaker 1: They finished construction at the end around the end of

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last year. Oh wow, yeah, it's like internet new stuff.

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yeah yeah. Lognet yeah, Lognet.

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Speaker 2: They have Lognet in sixty four lots.

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Speaker 1: God. I remember saying at the Jolly Roger in which

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was outside of it's outside of Disneyland, and they had

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the loget and sixty four and I was like, wow,

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this is the best day of my life. And I said, Mom,

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can we play it? And she said no, And I said, okay,

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well I think that's because its got an hour or

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some Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: We got in the room and my parents. But for

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me when I was this age, it was a super

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Nintendo Lodget. My parents saw that and they just knew

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it's like we're gonna have to get this, like sorry,

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like I was surprised they said yes, but they actually did.

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And then I played what's the Blizzard Weird Shooter with

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the guy Thorn Black Blackthorn Black, Yes, yeah, I played Blackthorn.

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Speaker 5: I always loved like if you had like you know, uh,

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as a kid, you had a sleepover something and you rent,

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like you know, we only had Genesis in my mom's place.

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The Super was my dad's and so it's like, oh,

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I got to rent Superintendo the new you know, Mortal

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Combat two is great on there whatever, and they give

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you like a little case like an Agent forty seven cass.

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It's like, you know, hard backed and stuff, and you

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open it up and it's it's a clam show with

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like spots for the trollers and everything, and it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: The only time I rented a console was when they

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did it for Dreamcast before it even came out at

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Hollywood Video, I believe. And that was amazing. Go back

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to that liminal like space thing, like like that's been

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the trend forever now, was just making things more and

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more spartan and just kind of like minimalists. And I

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was like, I was over it ten years ago. It's like, well,

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good thing about trends is that they go away eventually,

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and they somehow still are pushing it. I'm not expecting

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us to go back to the nineties where every McDonald's

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has like a giant statue of a chicken McNugget, and

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then the McDonald's itself is the shape of a chicken McNugget.

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I do should definitely more in that direction againstead of

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just everything being a white box.

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Speaker 1: And wonder, let's go around the horn.

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Speaker 5: How much would each of you pay for Remember the

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old sixty four and I think they might have done

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GameCube chaos at McDonald's where it's like all attached to

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the thing if it was a work anything with the

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screen for controllers. What what is the maxim amount you

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would pay for that? This is something I think about

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Speaker 2: I would probably for dollars, Yeah, I would probably. I

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mean I've seen things like that. I'm the mic the

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Dreamcast one that you share keep showing up on three thousand.

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Speaker 5: The first group that's just for kiosks and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: I would probably go up to like twenty five hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, key difference for the McDonald's one, not much, but

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for like the stand up GameCube one like at Walmart

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or whatever, you know, toys R us that one probably, like, yeah,

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a couple of grand for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm lucky. I'm looking at a listing for

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on the Electronic Bay the Nintendo GameCube Kiosk replacement part controller,

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which is the one that has the little the soft

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sleeve on it. They want five thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: For ye and it's sex to because like man, I

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work to make it a Funko Land and GameStop from

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like two thousand to two thousand four and I got

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all of those things. I had a giant Warrior World

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thing that was like a warrior throwing a bunch of

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coins in the air that I would kill for now.

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And you can't move these things around there They're big

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and I'll come something. God, I would kill the heaven.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I had, I had the Mario Galaxy

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one Kiosk that like did have a battery so it's

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spun around. It was just cardboard, but it was like,

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you know, three dimensions and it spun around. And I

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had that thing going for a while to it just

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eventually disintegrated.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so of Chets's like they think kiosks are lame?

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Why do I like them so much? Is it just

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that like when I was using them, I.

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Speaker 4: Had such a like it's this desire to plays having

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like a vending machine in your house.

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Speaker 1: Teams cool, It's like, well, that doesn't belong here. I

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used to a part of it.

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Speaker 5: As as a kid, I would go into Blockbusters and

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I remember I did this for the Rock the Action film,

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not Dwayne and they had a big display thing and

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it was like three D and it was just a

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giant explosion with heads of Ed Harris and Nick Cage

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and Chunk Connery and had quote from Roger Eber that

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said a slam bang action thriller. And I loved it,

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and so I asked them. I was like, hey, when

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you're done with that, what do you do with it?

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like can I have that? And they put my name

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on the back of it. And so I had that

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all through high school. In junior high in my room,

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this giant cardboard the Rock House. But they kept doing

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I kept going in and they just throw these things away,

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and so I in my room as a kid, I

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had all these action movie cardboard things all over my room.

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Speaker 3: It was awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that rules. My My grandpa used to work for

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Warner Brothers in like the market, like the print marketing department,

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and then eventually that company got spun off. So the

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amount of like my biggest memory is that when Destiny

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came out, he was like, we're printing the boxes for

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Destiny and I said hell yeah, and he was like,

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I think I'll be able to get you one. And

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at the time, I was like, Oh, that means I'm

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gonna get the game. That's awesome. I'm gonna get the

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fucking game. He brought me. So the Destiny one Special

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Edition came in a big box, like a big white box.

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so it was a it was a cube, and it

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was supposed to it had a bag inside, and then

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it had like a couple of books that were like

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art books, and then it was supposed to have the game.

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It had everything in there except the game in the bag.

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And he brought me three of them and he was like, congratulations, No,

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there wasn't. It was just that was before the game

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code was in there. That was when you bought the

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special edition. They still sent you the disc whow. It

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was just the it was just the prayeraphernalia and none

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of the good stuff. And he brought me three and

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he was so happy. He was like, I've brought I've

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brought my grandchild something nice, something that they want. It's

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Destiny won and here's three of them. And then I said,

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there's no video game in here. Then I saw the

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video game one day. I'll not tell a sad story

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on this program. Does anyone want to talk about video games?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: I saw the Micraft movie. Oh shit, Oh okay, tell

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us do we have movie music the music to the

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movies with Mike Manati.

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Speaker 4: Yes, that's let's get my going to come in on this.

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That he's getting Nicole kidman in here in the well.

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The kids really liked it. Okay, well you're a big kid.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That's a good review. Was the funniest joke, Ah,

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there was.

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Speaker 4: There were some jokes. There was like the hardest thing

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to get over was Jack Black. This is a wrestling

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reference that I apologize, but I think all you hear No.

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When Shawn Michaels fought Haul Cogan, so basically out of bitterness,

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Sean Michaels became a parody of himself.

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Speaker 1: And that's exactly. There's not a bitterness. Sean is a dick.

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Speaker 5: But also it was a pure motive of hating Whulle Cogan.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like something about Jack Black's performance and this reminded

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me of that, Like Jack Black became a parody like

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where I imagine he was doing takes and then the

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director somebody was like, give us more Jack Black. We

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need GV more like more Jack Black, Like that's what.

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Speaker 1: We paid for. So then he just turned it up

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to fifteen. And it's the most epodoxious version.

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Speaker 4: Of what Jack Black would be if he was turned

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out by a computer.

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Speaker 5: Well that's what it feels like, like, yeah, that's just

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that's just life.

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Speaker 1: Brother.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a wacky character.

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Speaker 1: Famous guy with ideas.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's got a rule when Jack Black hays to

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do all that in the Zelda movie because he's like

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like we need him tingle Wow, ting will be great.

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Speaker 5: Actuallyah go on, yeahd be the one that dances and

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let's you ender the fire temple.

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Speaker 1: Okay on board. Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 4: It was a it was a dumb nonsense movie that

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wasn't that. Look I could I could get through it.

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I've seen a lot of kids movies. I definitely prefer

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it when I think there's a bit more for like

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not the kids, like, you know, it's no Lego movie,

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which like, whoa, I can't believe how good the Lego

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movie was, right, this one was like, that's exactly how good.

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I thought the Minecraft movie would be.

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Speaker 1: So nuts because it feels like they well but I

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guess also, the Lego movie didn't make a bajillion dollars

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actually did it? Oh so why just make the Lego movie? Well,

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because this one's also.

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Speaker 4: Making even more money I think this one's doing. And

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I mean, like again, like my especially my one niece

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who really likes Minecraft, was ecstatic and you know, it's like, oh,

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I cadd all the references and she was telling me

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about them, smiled spoiler for the post credit scene here,

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but what it's.

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Speaker 3: Fuck a post credits That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: I was like, how can Minecraft have a post credit scene?

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Speaker 2: You're upset that it's just Minecraft and not that like

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he's spoiling something.

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Speaker 4: I thought you were upset about that, all right? How

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incredible that. I was like, what could this possibly be?

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And then it happened, and oh boy, the kids were excited, like,

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oh my god, I can't believe they like.

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Speaker 1: It's basically that I'm like loose tails for by Craft,

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and I guess there's an answer for that question. Who

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is the Alex or something? No one cares, No one.

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Speaker 4: Look at christ Wow, Okay, that's on you, that's not

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on spoiler Jason Momoa's character was basically just Armacgregan from Nubes.

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Speaker 1: Screenshot is not real. The screenshot that I'm looking at

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on Forbes dot com is fake. Show me, I'll confirm, deny,

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cannot be confirm or deny, show me.

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Speaker 3: Just say it.

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Speaker 2: This is a picture. Jennifer Coolidge, Oh, I just like God,

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it's the New York Alex.

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Speaker 1: It's the HD thing.

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Speaker 2: That's oh yeah, Yeah, she's in the movie a lot.

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Speaker 1: She doesn't go to.

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Speaker 4: So that's a publicity. She dates one of the weird villagers,

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were the ones with the dank dick knows Yeah she

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I guess, Yes, she has a romantic tryst with one of.

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Speaker 5: Them, just as Marlene, a human woman who falls in

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love with a Minecraft villager.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she was kind of funny. Sometimes the bit went

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on too long. The bit went on too long, but

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there is something there. In the end credit scene, Steve

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returns to the real world and visits the house he abandoned.

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The new owner welcomes him inside, and though her face

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is never shown, she you were building tension. She introduces

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herself as Alex, making her the second defense player's skin

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to appear in the film with.

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Speaker 4: His mom is now Alex is just like the he

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goes back to the real world, the new owner of

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the house.

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Speaker 5: The new owner of the house, which the real world

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like like that Trehouse of Horror where Homer goes into

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the real world and gets a sexy cake.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no no.

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Speaker 4: Steve is from the real world, but he went to

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minecraft world for a long time, but then he goes

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back to the real world.

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Speaker 1: Wait to see Mario Mario's Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's.

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Speaker 1: In the real world. It's an except like he shouted

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a rock and then other people get Also.

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Speaker 5: He stilln't completely but so it's like real people, real footage.

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Is that the real world?

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Speaker 1: Do you know what? Yea yeah? Wait yeah, do you

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know nothing about Do you haven't seen a trailer for

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this movie? What do you think it is? Okay, what

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happens to? What happens in this A.

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Speaker 5: Bunch of cg I think Jack Black is an actual

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guy that gets I think it's Mario, but Jack Black

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gets pulled into a Minecraft world and everyone else's blocks

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and animals are blocks and music guy with a beard.

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Speaker 1: That's right. That's all right, Dan, if you ever want

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to go to is just go. It's a Jumanji.

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Speaker 5: It's a I forget. They got pulled into a boardin right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they got pulled into a different world. That's

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all that matters. Yeah, okay, I get it.

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Speaker 1: Some Mario. Yeah, it's like.

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Speaker 5: Just yes, absolutely, somebody who has a Last Action Hero

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that's a direct for me, Like Last Action Hero.

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Speaker 2: That's reverse. I guess the kid does go in the movie, so.

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Speaker 5: Totally, and then Jack Spader comes into the real world.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah. I saw the Mario movie four times

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in theaters. I think I did, but I don't remember

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literally any of it. Powers before he went in, No,

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just the power of Italian is just okay. So but

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he couldn't even jump weird or anything like that.

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Speaker 4: No, there's nothing special about him except gumption until that

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moment I believe gets superdumption or moxi.

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Speaker 1: So there's.

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Speaker 5: So there's no is there any examples of like an

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actual east Kie that happened.

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Speaker 1: Stop, guys, Dan, what are you asking?

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know the parameters of easty kai.

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Speaker 1: So it's like.

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Speaker 5: I'm not saying I know. No one in real life

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has been pulled into like an alternate universe.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if.

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Speaker 5: I if you hit me in the head with a

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frying pan and I woke up in.

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Speaker 1: Peru, is that an easy kai.

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 5: But at the place, I don't know?

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's irrelevant.

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Speaker 3: It's literally or other world.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Well the guy in the world is another country.

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Speaker 1: Guys, they didn't get sucked there. They went there very deliberately.

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Speaker 5: Apo the moon. Okay, So what if you hit me

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in the head of the frying pan and I woke

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up on the moon?

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Speaker 2: I okay, are you aware that the moon exists and

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every night? But I mean, I know, but when you

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wake up from the because I think if you woke

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up from the frying pan hit and you lost memory

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of all these things, I think you could make an

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argument that it was Kai like but like no, if

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you like yes, if he would like had ambution complete ambution,

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didn't know where he was, and he was discovering the

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world for the first time, those are all aspects of

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what East guy's trying to get across.

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Speaker 5: He's not Actually, can time be an easy ky? Like

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was black Knight?

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Speaker 1: Martin Lawrence? Ye, black black Knights?

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Speaker 3: Yes, times, alternate reality, alternate reality, that's the phrase you

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need to know. No, no, you trying to tell me

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about anime, Jeff grub you trying to tell me about anime?

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Speaker 1: Kind of Yeah.

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Speaker 2: The term definitely gets used for kid in King Garthur's

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Court and a Yankee or whatever it was when the

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guy originally wrote it, Yeah, or like enchanted.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, well that's definitely an.

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Speaker 1: For girls play the video game music.

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Speaker 2: Darkness A darkness is an easy ky, Yes, Harvey, darkness

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isn't he's a guy?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah it was fine. I guess I don't

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want to watch that movie again. Whatever it was, maybe

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less than fine. Talking about Minecraft ship Dan would hate it, well,

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I think I did not like it, and I think

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everyone else would like it much less than me.

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Speaker 5: I don't have any ill will towards Minecraft. I've enjoyed Minecraft.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think you liked Some on the right

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side and the guy that made it him, I don't know.

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Speaker 4: There's no references nobody shut up with that stupid Fedora.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 4: They were desperately trying to get a Jack Black catchphrase

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across uh.

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Speaker 1: That was kind of trying to get over.

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Speaker 4: He kept saying sneak attack and like doing a thing,

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and at the times it would not be sneaky or

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even an attack. He kept saying that before he would

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do things. And that was I know all the kids

469
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,079
are freaking out about Chicken Jockey and I don't understand that.

470
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,799
And that's that's that's just where I am right now.

471
00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:01,039
There's a scene Jack Chicken Jal. There's a little mutant

472
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,960
kid who is on a chicken in Minecraft and Jason

473
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,200
wants to fight him, and like, Jack Black's biggest job

474
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,599
in the movie is to say the names of the

475
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:13,759
things that appear on the screen for the audience, like

476
00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:16,720
like no, not joking, like sneak in a flask. Every

477
00:24:16,759 --> 00:24:19,400
it's like Jack Black, so that's an ender pearl, or

478
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,240
like that's a creeper, and like that's he has the

479
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,960
entire time. But when the Chicken Jockey shows up, he

480
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:29,160
has this deliveries like Chicken Jockey, and for some reason,

481
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:34,359
all the all the zoomers and younger than zoomers think

482
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this is the greatest thing in the world.

483
00:24:35,839 --> 00:24:40,279
Speaker 1: Well, because the chicken Jockey's rare. It's a rare drop,

484
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,519
it's a rare it's a rare mob Yeah, pop hard Okay,

485
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,279
wait sorry, did they die in it and come back?

486
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,279
Does anyone die in it and come back? Like you

487
00:24:50,319 --> 00:24:51,640
can't mind? Like the people?

488
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 4: You know, there's no, no, the people don't die. They

489
00:24:54,599 --> 00:24:57,079
kill a lot of the pigs and they don't seem

490
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,680
too upset about it, and some other things seem to die.

491
00:25:00,319 --> 00:25:03,359
But only minecraft people died. The humans are They have

492
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,799
souls and are protected ansumers like thirty.

493
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Speaker 1: Now are No, they're getting there at the oldest are you?

494
00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:17,079
I'm on the cusp? But while I think, what whene

495
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:17,960
were you born? John?

496
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Speaker 3: Same as your ninety five.

497
00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 1: Okay, but when in the year ah manh yeah, I'm

498
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,359
a I was born at the end of ninety five.

499
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Speaker 3: They like expanded it out further though it's like yeah,

500
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two years.

501
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:33,799
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we are. We are the youngest millennials

502
00:25:33,839 --> 00:25:37,160
on the cusp of gen Z. My sister, the old

503
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,319
generation generation messed up.

504
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,079
Speaker 2: Old people in our generation do this movement when we're

505
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,839
exciting Okay.

506
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:54,039
Speaker 1: We're not pumping their youngest gen Z or the oldest

507
00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:56,319
gen Z I think is like twenty seven right now,

508
00:25:57,039 --> 00:25:59,799
or like twenty twenty five, twenty in between twenty five

509
00:25:59,799 --> 00:26:01,839
and twenty seven, depending on how you do the math.

510
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 5: And jaz zoomers. And then Alpha's Alpha.

511
00:26:05,759 --> 00:26:10,319
Speaker 1: Yes, and they will literally have a generation of Beta's folks.

512
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:17,519
It's time to talk about Blueprints. You've got three folks

513
00:26:17,519 --> 00:26:21,000
on the podcast who have played it, well, four didn't

514
00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:26,599
like it, which is fine and fair and allowed. I

515
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:29,240
was told that the game worked on the Macintosh. It doesn't,

516
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,519
so I haven't played it yet, but please tell me

517
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,720
about the game. I still don't think I understand what

518
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:37,200
it is.

519
00:26:37,839 --> 00:26:48,519
Speaker 5: It's hard to explain, isn't it fellas a little bit Yest's.

520
00:26:45,039 --> 00:26:48,559
Speaker 1: Look, explain what people explain? What you think it is?

521
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:50,759
Speaker 3: It's pipe dream with the witness.

522
00:26:51,759 --> 00:26:55,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not. It's a deck building roguelike card game

523
00:26:55,519 --> 00:26:57,559
that you live inside of, is what it is. It's

524
00:26:58,640 --> 00:26:59,759
it's it's run based.

525
00:27:00,319 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: You have a playfield that you walk through, so it's

526
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,799
not like a playfield you're placing cards in. You walk

527
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,319
into the first room, there's three doors. You pick one

528
00:27:09,319 --> 00:27:11,839
of those doors, and then you are given three random

529
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,720
cards from your deck that represent rooms, and then you

530
00:27:14,759 --> 00:27:17,079
walk into that room and it has certain elements in

531
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,559
it that can do things for you for other puzzles.

532
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,839
But you are doing this with the goal of getting

533
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,519
to a forty sixth room. It's a nine by five

534
00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:28,279
playfield where like where you're building out the house and

535
00:27:28,319 --> 00:27:30,079
you go in room by room and trying to get

536
00:27:30,079 --> 00:27:31,960
to the end, and you'll discover there's a lot more

537
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,160
to it than that. Every room's got some peculiarity to

538
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,960
it where it can teach you more about the world.

539
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,759
And then there are so many more layers and layers

540
00:27:40,799 --> 00:27:42,960
and layers of puzzles on top of all of what

541
00:27:43,039 --> 00:27:45,920
I just described there. But it does not make that

542
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:47,319
obvious when you first start playing.

543
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,319
Speaker 5: Yeah, and there are persistent things that happen where it's

544
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,960
like because it's easy at first to just kind of

545
00:27:53,039 --> 00:27:54,480
keep going and being like, all right, I guess am

546
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,519
I just trying to get to the end here. Okay,

547
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:57,880
well nope, I had a dead end. I guess I'll

548
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,599
researt the day or whatever. But you start picking up

549
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,759
on persistent things. There are first and foremost there's an allowance,

550
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,200
so there's like a gold system and there's chop tiles

551
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,480
you can place, and so like right now, like every

552
00:28:09,519 --> 00:28:11,880
day I start, I've got like thirty two allowance, so

553
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,079
I've got like all this money I can spend where

554
00:28:14,079 --> 00:28:15,920
it's like in the earlier run thirty two.

555
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:16,759
Speaker 1: At thirty two.

556
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,599
Speaker 5: Well, here's another thing I've realized is that I might

557
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,240
be a real dumbass with this game because I got

558
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,759
to like one hundred and thirty days, which is one

559
00:28:25,839 --> 00:28:28,119
hundred and thirty runs, and then my save got wiped

560
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,440
and then I restarted. But it actually wasn't that terrible

561
00:28:30,519 --> 00:28:33,119
because it is very much that like Outer Wild type thing,

562
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,160
where like knowledge is the thing. So it was so

563
00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:38,599
much quicker for me to get back to stuff after

564
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,920
I reset. But now I'm on like day thirty, so

565
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,359
basically I've done like one hundred and sixty runs of

566
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920
this game. I'm talking to Minati here on Discord, and

567
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,640
Minati like what saw credits at which I still haven't

568
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,960
seen credits. Both Manati and Grubb saw credits early. It

569
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,079
seemed I.

570
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:59,319
Speaker 4: Saw I got credits last night at day number thirty two.

571
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,559
Speaker 1: But like, but like you're doing a lot the thing is, yeah,

572
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,359
there's so much more.

573
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:03,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, right.

574
00:29:03,839 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 4: That's what's great about this game is that you start

575
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,440
off in like you can make an idea your head

576
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:10,559
of what it's about. You can look at and like, okay,

577
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,880
so it's some kind of roguelike maze game, and then

578
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,680
you realize, oh, it's it's more complicated than that, and

579
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,599
this aspect of it is deeper, and this aspect of

580
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,920
it is deceptive, and everything matters the rooms that you're picking.

581
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:29,160
What is in those rooms where the exits are, If

582
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,880
you're using that room too early, are you prioritizing trying

583
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,640
to get to a specific room, or are you trying

584
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:36,359
to get to the end of the hallway? What are

585
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,079
you looking for in these rooms? It just keeps getting

586
00:29:39,119 --> 00:29:41,599
deeper and deeper, and there's so many mysteries in here

587
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,200
that don't even necessarily revolve around seeing those credits. I

588
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,880
think Dan has done a lot more of those, and

589
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,720
I happen to kind of start pulling on some threads

590
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,160
that got me sitting here.

591
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: Credits. I accidentally got credits.

592
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: I was working on a million other things where it

593
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,839
was like I'm like, I'm aware, I'm trying to get

594
00:29:59,839 --> 00:30:01,200
to the this last room.

595
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,279
Speaker 1: I'm setting that aside.

596
00:30:02,319 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 2: There are things that I'm interested in between that and

597
00:30:04,839 --> 00:30:06,920
now that I'm going to focus on. And then I

598
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,200
just kind of set things up in a perfect run

599
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:10,920
where I was like, oh, I think.

600
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:12,319
Speaker 1: I could just do this right now. Oh my god.

601
00:30:12,359 --> 00:30:13,359
I'm like, I'm looking at a map.

602
00:30:13,359 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I think if I go over there, I

603
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,279
could do this, and I could try Let me go

604
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:17,759
try that right now. I happen to have the right

605
00:30:17,839 --> 00:30:20,680
room to try to test out this hypothesis. It's a

606
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,759
game about like coming up with ideas about what you

607
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,079
want to do next, and then that feeds back into

608
00:30:25,119 --> 00:30:27,200
the card game aspect. And again I say card game.

609
00:30:27,599 --> 00:30:29,359
Don't you're gonna look at this and be like, this

610
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,599
is not a card game. It's but you really you've

611
00:30:31,599 --> 00:30:34,400
got to play your deck. You have to under you

612
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,559
have to have a drafting strategy. The game eventually just

613
00:30:36,599 --> 00:30:38,720
starts giving you tutorials about this. If you go, you

614
00:30:38,759 --> 00:30:41,759
find certain things where it'll teach you aspects about coming

615
00:30:41,839 --> 00:30:43,640
up with a drafting strategy, like if you're trying to

616
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,640
accomplish a certain thing, maybe you should be playing your

617
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:50,119
rooms in this way. And I'm like Okay, I have

618
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,599
an idea, I'm gonna try to do that, and I

619
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,559
just kind of was able to have this perfect run

620
00:30:53,759 --> 00:30:56,079
where I had like no keys left and I like

621
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,400
found the right room to get some stuff open, and.

622
00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, I just barely skirted into that last week too.

623
00:31:01,279 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 4: I have to say, like that the run where I won,

624
00:31:04,839 --> 00:31:07,680
I thought I was cooked, and then guess what I

625
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,680
came across that helped me get to the end above

626
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:12,920
it of fucking apples.

627
00:31:16,319 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 6: This.

628
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,279
Speaker 1: Oh wait, sorry, does this game have a have a

629
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,400
narrative that comes together? Like Outer Wilds? So the thing

630
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,440
that I liked so much about Outer Wilds is that,

631
00:31:28,519 --> 00:31:32,680
like the the the key into lock was not particularly

632
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,200
sometimes it was mechanical, like you you go into the

633
00:31:36,319 --> 00:31:39,680
dark bramble and you're like, oh, I get like I oh,

634
00:31:39,799 --> 00:31:43,440
I get it now. Yeah, But the the keys into

635
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,599
locks that happen in your brain are are narrative ones

636
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,440
where you get to a place and you're like, oh,

637
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,799
I understand how they specifically and explicitly how they fucked

638
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,960
up here and why this is happening, and now I

639
00:31:56,039 --> 00:31:57,920
understand what I need to do when I go back

640
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,319
to this other place. Is it only so it is

641
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,559
narratively keys into locks and mechanically or.

642
00:32:05,279 --> 00:32:08,079
Speaker 5: There are literal keys that go into specific locks and

643
00:32:08,079 --> 00:32:10,039
stuff like that. But then there's also things where it's

644
00:32:10,079 --> 00:32:11,599
like there are a lot of books, there are a

645
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,119
lot of notes that I'm taking screenshots of everything. There

646
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,920
are notes, and then if you have a if you

647
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,599
encounter this note with a magnifying glass item and you

648
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,000
like zoom in on a picture, you might see a

649
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:23,319
code for something, or you might see a little scribbled

650
00:32:23,319 --> 00:32:26,160
and erased message that tells you a little bit more context.

651
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,079
But yes, if you just want to mechanically get to

652
00:32:29,119 --> 00:32:31,480
the endency credits, that can be done. But there is

653
00:32:31,599 --> 00:32:33,960
clearly a much larger story here that is being told,

654
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,160
where it's like you're learning history of this lore of

655
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,599
this kingdom and the people who like inherited this house

656
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,880
and the family tree and like this stuff all kind

657
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,079
of ties into the actual puzzles and things like that,

658
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,359
And there are still I'm forty five fifty hours into

659
00:32:46,359 --> 00:32:49,160
it now, I haven't even really needed to go into

660
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,440
that yet, but there are definitely things. I know if

661
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:53,240
I want to really see all of this, I will

662
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:55,440
need to have a greater understanding of this I'm trying

663
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,200
to decipher languages. I am like it is. There are

664
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,480
things where it's like forty five hours in, I'm just

665
00:33:02,599 --> 00:33:05,880
now seeing things that Grub reference to me. Uh you

666
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:07,400
know when you were like five hours in where you

667
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:09,599
were talking about like Grub said something about like, oh yeah,

668
00:33:09,599 --> 00:33:11,880
I'm thinking about like we're I'm placing the rooms in

669
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,359
terms of like the yield.

670
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,119
Speaker 1: Of like crops, and I was like, what the fuck

671
00:33:15,279 --> 00:33:15,599
are you?

672
00:33:17,759 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 5: Then I just stumbled upon that and I saw something

673
00:33:20,119 --> 00:33:21,559
was like, Oh, this is what the fuck Grub was

674
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:23,400
talking about where he's like, oh, yeah, I got I

675
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:24,640
got a bunch of money at the casino.

676
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:30,519
Speaker 4: I was like casino, m M, like I said, even

677
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:33,480
though I rolled credits, like right like that same run,

678
00:33:33,559 --> 00:33:35,640
I opened up this whole other area and I learned

679
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,920
about a game mechanic something with sigils, and I'm like,

680
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:39,839
what the hell is this?

681
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: And I still have no idea what that is.

682
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: You'll you'll find out. You're right a point now where're

683
00:33:44,839 --> 00:33:47,400
you'll find out very soon and it's like, oh, there's

684
00:33:47,599 --> 00:33:49,720
a whole there might maybe just like two other games

685
00:33:49,759 --> 00:33:50,079
in here.

686
00:33:50,279 --> 00:33:53,359
Speaker 1: Still I was chess. I just I just done some

687
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,160
chest stuff last night. Yes, I'm curious what you selected there.

688
00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: Actually, so yeah, I'm yeah, you just got to get

689
00:34:01,039 --> 00:34:03,079
to the end of the game with credits, and it's like, okay,

690
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:04,680
I'm going to push forward a little bit further. And

691
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,440
it's like, oh, if I want to keep playing this,

692
00:34:06,519 --> 00:34:08,559
like I expect to easily double my time.

693
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:09,039
Speaker 6: Yeah.

694
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,159
Speaker 5: So I've got these notes everywhere, and then I've got

695
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:14,199
a Google doctor. I'm literally like pouring over the periodic

696
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,599
table while I play this game.

697
00:34:16,039 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: Rais and shit like that. Yeah, I did hate that.

698
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:22,880
I love I love a game where you finish it

699
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,679
and you're not done. Yeah. Like but there is like

700
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,639
it's not like I'm not talking live service, but like

701
00:34:29,679 --> 00:34:32,360
I'm very explicitly being like, okay, the game is like, well,

702
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,239
you did do the thing if you want to get

703
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:35,400
out of here, when you built.

704
00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 2: Up all this knowledge, right, Like it is like it

705
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,239
is like a game you play in your head. That's

706
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,280
what It's the kind of game I'm into these days.

707
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:41,800
I'm into a lot of games, but definitely I like

708
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:43,639
games that like get in my head and like force

709
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,079
me to think about things and all right, well, I've

710
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,639
built up all these skills that are only applicable to

711
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,719
this one video game. Yes, so I'm not going to

712
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,719
stop playinge And.

713
00:34:52,679 --> 00:34:54,679
Speaker 5: A lot of people are asking I've seen people asking like, oh,

714
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:56,239
is this like an Animal world thing where you can

715
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,400
see credits and then like there's a bunch of other

716
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,199
stuff if you want to keep going. It's like, I

717
00:35:00,199 --> 00:35:02,000
guess in just that form that like there's more after

718
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,159
the credits. Yes, But like I beat Animal well, I

719
00:35:04,159 --> 00:35:06,119
appreciated the Animal well, but I was like I did

720
00:35:06,159 --> 00:35:08,679
not feel the hook to like, all right, I don't

721
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,000
need to go all the way over there and figure

722
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,840
out everything there in the sub level and all this.

723
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:14,559
With this one, I do feel that, like I don't

724
00:35:14,599 --> 00:35:16,679
want to stop playing this game. This is so much

725
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:18,440
deeper to me than like an Animal will.

726
00:35:18,559 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: Just placing the rooms is fun, like just that first

727
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,480
dreams element then yes, yeah, the pipe dreams element of it.

728
00:35:24,599 --> 00:35:27,039
Speaker 1: Yes, is that is satisfying?

729
00:35:27,199 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 3: All right? Oh kay, I'm gonna trying it in here

730
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,360
for a second. First of all, when you guys say runs,

731
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:32,320
do you mean the days?

732
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:33,119
Speaker 1: Yeah?

733
00:35:33,199 --> 00:35:36,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Okay, So I think that's part of why

734
00:35:36,679 --> 00:35:38,360
you guys are thinking of it differently than I'm thinking

735
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,199
of it, because when I look at this game, it's important.

736
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,760
This was not like stressed to me when I first

737
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:47,599
picked the game up. Ultimately, you are looking at a like,

738
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,480
was it eight by eight grid at least to start, Yeah,

739
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:54,199
nine by five, okay, something like that, And what you

740
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,760
are ultimately doing is that the game takes place in

741
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,960
first person, but you are placing tiles on this grid

742
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,039
to build a path to the end room. Again, at

743
00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:06,320
least in the beginning, that's what the goal is presented

744
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,880
to you as being. And so you need to build

745
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,119
a path to that room. And every time you like

746
00:36:12,199 --> 00:36:14,360
walk up to a door to place the next path,

747
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,280
the next like tile, if you will, you are presented with, oh,

748
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,599
you'll have like a straight hallway or a cross shaped hallway,

749
00:36:20,679 --> 00:36:22,760
or maybe you'll be a curve. But then there's a

750
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,760
puzzle in it. Maybe you can get gems, keys, coins,

751
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:28,119
one of the different current resources.

752
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

753
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's that's the base level of what the

754
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,679
game is. And so it's not it isn't a deck builder,

755
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,559
because it's it's ultimately not card game. No, no, no, hang on,

756
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:42,840
hang on, because you're not specifically correct me if I'm wrong,

757
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,280
if it changes later, you are not making a load out.

758
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,360
Per se, you are unlocking rooms that can potentially be

759
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:51,360
dealt into the pool.

760
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 5: Not just that, so you are unlocking rooms, you can

761
00:36:55,039 --> 00:36:57,840
also there are rooms where you can adjust the frequency

762
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:58,159
of them.

763
00:36:58,199 --> 00:37:00,639
Speaker 2: So it's like, okay, you can adjust that how frequently

764
00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,880
they show up, and you can add new rooms to

765
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:03,239
the deck.

766
00:37:03,519 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 5: You can get a devil. These two observatories in my deck.

767
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 1: Now you can deck that you can't get rid of

768
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:09,199
for sure.

769
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, but then they're also like, okay, so the parlor

770
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,400
is the one that has like a wind up key

771
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,239
in the three boxes, and one of them has a

772
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,920
gems in it, And then it's like, oh, okay, I was

773
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:22,519
able to find an upgrade disc and I was able

774
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:25,000
to upgrade the parlor and choose how I wanted to

775
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:25,199
do it.

776
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,159
Speaker 1: And it's like, as you go further.

777
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 5: A lot of these puzzles, specifically the dartboard and the

778
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,039
parlor puzzle, people who played well know what I'm talking about, Yeah,

779
00:37:32,159 --> 00:37:34,280
very very hard. And so I was able to upgrade

780
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:36,440
the parlor to where, oh I have two wind up

781
00:37:36,519 --> 00:37:39,119
keys now, so now it's the sixty six percent chance

782
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:40,400
I can just not even look at the clues and

783
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,000
I can just you know, have a better chance of openings.

784
00:37:43,079 --> 00:37:45,679
Speaker 3: Are are you changing the frequency in which that room

785
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,079
appears though, or is it a physical element to it?

786
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 5: You can I can go into the is it the

787
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:53,760
conservatory or something, and I can say like, okay, I

788
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,119
want the parlor to show up extremely rarely.

789
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're adjusting the rarity of the cards.

790
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,199
Speaker 3: Okay, it's that's a more of a distinction difference, so

791
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,599
it doesn't really matter, but okay, just want to I don't.

792
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 4: Think I don't think it's ever going to like, yeah,

793
00:38:07,119 --> 00:38:08,760
it's not going to be a deck builder in that

794
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,599
way that you're thinking are once Shawn.

795
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:10,639
Speaker 1: It's not.

796
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:16,599
Speaker 2: It's not right those mechanics. Yes, it's like and again

797
00:38:16,639 --> 00:38:19,000
it's you are living inside of it, so inherently it's

798
00:38:19,039 --> 00:38:21,320
just different. It's the first person solve them up first.

799
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 3: Something. This is very differently not spoilers. These are mechanics.

800
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,000
This is the first hour of the game.

801
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: This is the first This is the game as presented

802
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,920
in the trailer.

803
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:32,519
Speaker 4: It's weird because it's a game you both like, don't

804
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:34,000
spoil it all, but it's also kind of hard to

805
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:36,400
spoil because like Dan and Jeff were just talking about

806
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:37,679
this game while I was like in there before I

807
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:39,960
started playing, and they were talking about things, and it

808
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,440
all sounded like complete nonsense to me, because it is

809
00:38:42,519 --> 00:38:43,039
until you do.

810
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,880
Speaker 1: It, you do it right. Yeah, right exactly.

811
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 4: But like, the thing I love about this game is

812
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,159
that trying to describe it is so difficult because there's

813
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,920
all these things you can compare it to, like deck

814
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,880
Builder or Roguelike. It's a mist like it's the bridge,

815
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,800
like it's it's amazed like these all these things, and

816
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,840
it's like but it's like and it's both not any

817
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,960
of those and all of those, and that could so

818
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,559
easily turn to a mess of a game. It's combining

819
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,480
something really new here.

820
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 5: It is so cool, the moments where it's like, you know,

821
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,679
you could be playing the game for ten hours and

822
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:16,760
then you find this room we've never been into before,

823
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,079
and you read one note and you're like, oh, this

824
00:39:20,119 --> 00:39:22,039
is what all that shit meant, like this thing I've

825
00:39:22,039 --> 00:39:23,480
seen in like every room, and then all of a

826
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,920
sudden you're pulling out the paper and you're like, oh,

827
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,119
I had no idea. I thought that was just set dressing,

828
00:39:27,159 --> 00:39:28,880
and you realize, oh, it's a whole fucking puzzle.

829
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 2: This is incredible yep, And yeah, I just think it's

830
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,079
going to probably click with a good number of people.

831
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:37,599
I think for a lot of people be like this

832
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,800
is not for me. I think that is going to

833
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,039
happen despite all the really good reviews. But it's on

834
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:44,480
game Pass, it's on places Extra.

835
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was base it right. Yeah.

836
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,199
Speaker 4: Also a very pretty game too. It's just like not

837
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,159
cell shaded, but it's got this great style to it's

838
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,880
kind of it's kind of cell shaded, and like just

839
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,239
the whole vibe of it is very sort of it's like.

840
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,800
Speaker 1: Creepy serene, you know.

841
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

842
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 1: I love that.

843
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:11,239
Speaker 2: Also, the music, especially when you get to very important points,

844
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,400
or you get to a certain like rank on the

845
00:40:13,519 --> 00:40:16,239
on the board, or you go to certain areas you

846
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,960
haven't been before, some new instruments.

847
00:40:18,559 --> 00:40:23,199
Speaker 1: Kick in and it's like deeply moving. It sounds so cool.

848
00:40:23,199 --> 00:40:25,119
Speaker 2: It's like it makes you feel like you are doing

849
00:40:25,159 --> 00:40:28,639
something that is a breakthrough, because you probably are, but

850
00:40:28,639 --> 00:40:31,079
they really it really hit. Makes those moments hit very

851
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:31,599
hard for me.

852
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,599
Speaker 5: Here here's the kind of non spoilery thing of just

853
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:35,440
like the type of like ways you think in this

854
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,320
game is like I ran into a safe at one point,

855
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,159
and it became clear to me that to open the safe,

856
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:43,039
I would need to figure out what because it was

857
00:40:43,039 --> 00:40:45,519
like a time release safe and I had to set, yeah,

858
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,880
the date and time that it opens, and I can

859
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,199
only set up a certain window and it has to

860
00:40:49,199 --> 00:40:51,639
be in the future. And that led me to be like, wait,

861
00:40:52,199 --> 00:40:54,599
when is the set And I'm just like walking around

862
00:40:54,679 --> 00:40:57,280
his house looking at like when am I like and

863
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,880
I'm like trying to decipher the date and like that

864
00:41:00,159 --> 00:41:01,960
is just one of a million little things that's like,

865
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,039
oh fuck, I didn't expect to be thinking like this,

866
00:41:04,199 --> 00:41:05,360
you know, And.

867
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,320
Speaker 2: It's it does a nice thing as well, where it's

868
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,440
like I did that same thing Dan did, and then

869
00:41:09,559 --> 00:41:12,079
the next day I found something that basically just told

870
00:41:12,119 --> 00:41:13,320
me and it's like, oh, I did.

871
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 1: All this work.

872
00:41:14,079 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: And if I had just got like if I didn't

873
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,559
feel like doing the work and I worked on something else,

874
00:41:17,679 --> 00:41:20,320
I probably would have just run into the game being like,

875
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,639
we're gonna make it easier for you at this point moment.

876
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,480
And it does that a lot, like I'm I figure

877
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,320
out a lot of mechanics that later I'll find a

878
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,480
room that is maybe a little bit more rare, a

879
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,239
little bit specialized where you have to do a certain

880
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,159
thing to get to a certain level of that room

881
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:34,880
where it's like, okay, at this point where it's going

882
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,559
to actually teach you how to do some of these things.

883
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:38,760
Or there's a there's like a library system where you

884
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,239
can get certain things that kind of give you just

885
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,840
a rundown of house something's work, and they also gives

886
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:44,920
you rundown of the lore.

887
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:46,320
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit of both.

888
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like, yeah, it's there's like multiple avenues that

889
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,480
get to the same solution. And yeah, like very early

890
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,519
on to kind of being clever, I found a password

891
00:41:55,559 --> 00:41:57,719
that I needed, and then like almost when I beat

892
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,960
the game, there was a point where the password was

893
00:42:00,119 --> 00:42:02,320
just sort of like in a note somewhere.

894
00:42:02,199 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 1: Yes, like deeper what I'm talking about.

895
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 4: It's kind of like, hey, in case you didn't find

896
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,079
this yet, you probably should know about this thing.

897
00:42:09,079 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's very smart.

898
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, then that was one of the first things I found.

899
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,880
So when I got that note, I was like, damn it,

900
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,199
I wish you would have told me something else that

901
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:15,719
I didn't know.

902
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 1: Xactly the things.

903
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,519
Speaker 5: Grub made a joke on a stream that was not

904
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:22,039
related to blueprints like two weeks ago, and I was like,

905
00:42:22,039 --> 00:42:23,400
I know he's been playing that. I wonder if he

906
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,239
said that, because then I typed in the password and

907
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:29,280
he's like password accepted. Yeah, on your mind when you

908
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,719
said this word, it's a rogue.

909
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,639
Speaker 4: Like, you know, there's some random elements, but at least

910
00:42:34,639 --> 00:42:37,719
from what I seen, the solutions to puzzles are persistent.

911
00:42:38,039 --> 00:42:39,840
So it is a game where you can talk to

912
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:41,800
your buddies a bit. And you know, I never like

913
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,800
asked Dani Jeflee, like what's the solution to this puzzle?

914
00:42:44,039 --> 00:42:46,800
But sometimes I was like, hey, am I crazy? Or

915
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,360
is this thing not doing this thing? Or am I

916
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,440
you know, like am I missing something here? Just getting

917
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:55,079
some insurances and some nudges was very hopeful.

918
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 5: And that's been very fun. I would highly suggest that

919
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,239
no one look up actual solutions because in the pre

920
00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,400
release we didn't get on the benefit. But you know,

921
00:43:01,519 --> 00:43:03,320
me grubbing Mike, we're definitely in a discord being like

922
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,800
am I poking up barking up the wrong tree here?

923
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,400
Or Greb definitely helped me with like, oh do this

924
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:10,480
and then maybe go check out this area and like

925
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:12,000
never explicit directions.

926
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: Is there anything else I can do in this room?

927
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,760
I did this, this and this, and like no, I'm.

928
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 2: Like, you're just starting to run. You've done everything you

929
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,599
can do. Yeah, that's and that's the kind of things

930
00:43:19,599 --> 00:43:19,840
that are.

931
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:20,280
Speaker 1: It's fun.

932
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 2: I'm like, I want to talk about it. I'm like,

933
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,519
that's enough, alright, great. We had a little conversation about

934
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:23,840
this game.

935
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:30,519
Speaker 1: Fantastic. Yeah, this is the studio's first one. Yeah.

936
00:43:31,199 --> 00:43:34,599
Speaker 2: It was like written, directed, and kind of like designed

937
00:43:34,599 --> 00:43:36,880
all by one person like Conday.

938
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 5: Sure, yeah that's that. Which, by the way, I had

939
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:45,039
my issue. I got reached out to by the social

940
00:43:45,039 --> 00:43:47,880
account and had an email back and forth about my safeting.

941
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: It's just the creator is doing everything.

942
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just like wow, okay, yeah, incredible, incredible stuff

943
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:58,079
it is.

944
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,039
Speaker 1: It's without a end of the year. Yeah, my friend

945
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:02,840
name of the year so far. Yeah, me too, it's

946
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:03,800
my game of the year so far.

947
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 4: How did Lucy know? How did Lucy draft this number two?

948
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:11,760
In her Fantasy critic counter Something.

949
00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 2: It's demo did very well, is what I remember saying. God,

950
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,480
and I think she might have talked talked to because

951
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,679
the publisher's raw fury and raw fury is they got

952
00:44:21,679 --> 00:44:23,000
a good track record, but I think this is going

953
00:44:23,079 --> 00:44:23,400
to be there.

954
00:44:23,519 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 1: This is going to be their ballottro for sure.

955
00:44:25,519 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, uh, poor poor Jeff Backolar counterpicked it, so

956
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,159
that's not gonna be great for Yeah.

957
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,159
Speaker 1: What is it on Open Critic right now? Like is

958
00:44:34,159 --> 00:44:36,360
it stole ninety one on Open Critic?

959
00:44:36,599 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 4: So that's bonus points when it's a good those are

960
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:43,519
good point, good points.

961
00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 5: This is a special Like I think the comparisons like

962
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,360
Outer Wilds are apt. Yeah, yes, it's a different vibe

963
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,280
than out of Wild but like I think I'm enjoying

964
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,239
it like on that same level. And and and people

965
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:55,840
ask on Animal, well I do like it. I like

966
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,599
it more than the Animal. Well, for sure, I like

967
00:44:57,599 --> 00:44:59,119
it more than the witness But like these are the

968
00:44:59,159 --> 00:45:01,239
type of game is that, Like it makes sense why

969
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,679
people are bringing these up, you know.

970
00:45:02,679 --> 00:45:04,400
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, like the Witnesses.

971
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,599
Speaker 2: Like for me, like the way that it's just hey,

972
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:09,760
one puzzle right after another, and it builds like very quickly,

973
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,199
and that fits with my brain really well, where I'm

974
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,239
just like give me the challenge one right after another.

975
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,079
I just figured this out. I built up the skill,

976
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,119
let me use it. This is a little bit more like,

977
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,280
here's one puzzle like this over here, here's one puzzle

978
00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:20,880
like that over here.

979
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:21,440
Speaker 1: But once you.

980
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,880
Speaker 2: Start piecing the whole world together and realizing just how

981
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,719
interconnected everything is, it really does rise and kind of

982
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:30,239
surpass something like the Witness. For me, it's just like

983
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:31,719
I'm in that moment still right now.

984
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 5: I love where it's like you've been seeing something throughout

985
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,639
and it's just been like, Okay, yeah, I see that.

986
00:45:36,679 --> 00:45:38,320
I don't really have to worry about that now. But then,

987
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,159
like I'll get a message from grub me like I'm

988
00:45:40,199 --> 00:45:42,000
at the point where I have to understand this thing.

989
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,800
Speaker 2: It's that there a little bit too, so I'm like

990
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,199
excited to go back and play more.

991
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:49,639
Speaker 4: Yeah.

992
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: God, so that one big message. I'm like, what does

993
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:52,119
this mean?

994
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,119
Speaker 4: It works really hard to get this message, and I

995
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:58,119
gotta figure out what this means. But yeah, I like

996
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,000
The Witness, Obra dand those are games I like but

997
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:03,199
but didn't and love. So if you were like cool

998
00:46:03,199 --> 00:46:05,559
on those, don't be worried about trying this one out

999
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,920
still maybe because yeah, this one, there's just something about

1000
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,840
those games would get up to to me or I

1001
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,280
just wasn't on the wavelength. Sometimes I felt on the

1002
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,480
wavelength of this one the entire time.

1003
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like just getting those items and at a

1004
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:21,960
point where I'm like, I got credits and I never

1005
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,559
really did much with these tools you get, and it's like, Okay,

1006
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:25,159
now I'm doing that.

1007
00:46:25,199 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 1: It's like, oh, that's opening up whole new things for

1008
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:27,400
me as well.

1009
00:46:27,519 --> 00:46:29,199
Speaker 5: Spend some time in the workshop. You can make some more.

1010
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: Get in the workshop, everybody, for sure.

1011
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: Good game, incredible. I love it again. That is blue prints,

1012
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,719
which you can score. Is a pun by the way

1013
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,280
on because blue prints.

1014
00:46:42,199 --> 00:46:46,039
Speaker 3: That's the long time.

1015
00:46:49,679 --> 00:46:53,039
Speaker 1: Sean. There's a new Katamari.

1016
00:46:53,639 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 3: There's well on a bunch of stuff. It's on Apple Arcade,

1017
00:46:59,519 --> 00:47:01,960
and so you can play it on your phone, on

1018
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:05,800
your iPad, on your Mac, on your Apple TV. I'm

1019
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,599
stalling while I get the headline up. But yeah, I'm

1020
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:09,800
playing out on my phone right now.

1021
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:12,079
Speaker 5: If I don't want to pay a subscription, but I

1022
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:14,199
do really like Katamari, how do I play it?

1023
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:18,039
Speaker 3: Suck up and I spend seven dollars, Dan, it's seven

1024
00:47:18,119 --> 00:47:19,679
dollars for Apple every month.

1025
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,079
Speaker 1: No you can, I'll forget. No, just do it as

1026
00:47:24,079 --> 00:47:27,440
soon as you cancel, just go to the apisode give

1027
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:29,920
them seven dollars. You can get it for one month. No,

1028
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:32,920
you subscribe and then before you can eat, before you

1029
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:37,000
even start anything, you just go into the settings that

1030
00:47:37,039 --> 00:47:39,559
you just type in subscriptions and you just cancel it. Yeah,

1031
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:43,159
and then they don't get you. Okay, I'll tell you anyways.

1032
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:47,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm playing on my phone. I don't currently have

1033
00:47:47,079 --> 00:47:49,679
a controller from my phone, and I wish the touch

1034
00:47:49,679 --> 00:47:52,559
controls were a little bit better. It's it's probably what

1035
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,159
you guys think of the older ones in the room

1036
00:47:55,559 --> 00:48:00,519
when you think of touch controls, where it's like, why

1037
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:02,320
I say touch controls, you probably think of like the

1038
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,199
old iPod touch games where it's like a static analog

1039
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:05,920
stick on screen.

1040
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,199
Speaker 2: That's how I control my robot lawnmower.

1041
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:09,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1042
00:48:09,559 --> 00:48:12,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do that in here, and that's just so outdated.

1043
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:14,840
Nowadays games do it where like when you put your

1044
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,159
thumb on the screen, like the circle like goes around

1045
00:48:17,199 --> 00:48:18,760
your thumb and then like if you lift it and

1046
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:22,039
then press it down again, you'll like adapt to that. Yeah.

1047
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:25,119
So touch controls aren't great, but what is great is

1048
00:48:25,159 --> 00:48:27,480
the game in general. I think it's it's just a

1049
00:48:27,519 --> 00:48:30,679
new Katamari. You know, remember Camar Damas from back in

1050
00:48:30,679 --> 00:48:33,960
the day, Ps. Two and everything. Yeah, it's fun having

1051
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,000
this if you've never played it. This play as the Prince,

1052
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:40,159
this little dude, you know, in a human world and

1053
00:48:40,199 --> 00:48:44,079
you have this little ball that's about you know, it's

1054
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:53,199
it's not non It this little couple inch high, little

1055
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:55,400
little sticky thing that you roll around to like pick

1056
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,079
up objects, and then the objects all collect together after

1057
00:48:58,079 --> 00:48:59,800
you've been rolling around for a while and turns into

1058
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:02,440
a planet at the end. Is what's going on there.

1059
00:49:02,639 --> 00:49:05,199
What's funny about this is that bringing Backhead of Mari,

1060
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,199
they put a spin on it where the King of

1061
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,920
all Cosmos is a streamer. Now he's a twitch streamer,

1062
00:49:11,119 --> 00:49:14,400
Oh yeah, but he's the King of all Cosmos, so

1063
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:17,000
he's an asshole and doesn't want to do the streaming himself,

1064
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,119
so his streams are all the Prince rolling up Katamari's

1065
00:49:20,159 --> 00:49:23,760
that like his collaborators say we should do.

1066
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, hey, I want to do a short.

1067
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,639
Shorts are all the.

1068
00:49:26,679 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: Rage right now. He's like, all right, Prince, you know

1069
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,079
what that means. You need to roll this up in

1070
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,840
a short amount of time. It's like dumb wordplay like

1071
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:37,039
that they also do sort of. I was talking about

1072
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,480
this with Warrio World, where Warrio can get away with

1073
00:49:39,519 --> 00:49:41,679
things that other characters can't, and so the King of

1074
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,760
all Cosmos will just like have textboxes that pop up

1075
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:48,119
directly over your screen, like where you need to be looking,

1076
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:50,519
and it would be like, hey, pay attention to me

1077
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,159
because I'm the streamer. Like it's the kind of thing

1078
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,320
where like in any argument, I love that. But yeah,

1079
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:58,039
they're doing intentionally, so it's like funny and if.

1080
00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,800
Speaker 2: You all Cosmos is a great character, I'm glad.

1081
00:50:00,119 --> 00:50:03,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, if you if you hit the skip bun like,

1082
00:50:03,159 --> 00:50:05,360
you get one more textbox that says, oh no, I'm

1083
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:08,840
being ignored and then it goes away. It's just a

1084
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,960
delightful little game. It is. It's been so long since

1085
00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:15,199
I played a Kadamory that I don't remember exactly how

1086
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:18,400
it played out, but there is a three star system now.

1087
00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,239
They had something like that where you got like bonuses

1088
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:22,320
for doing more I think.

1089
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:29,039
Speaker 1: But yeah, but that feels so explicitly mobile game coded

1090
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:32,679
it like that's that's an angry bird's vocabulary. That is

1091
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:38,039
like the translated over to mobile. I remember trials.

1092
00:50:38,519 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, the thing is it absolutely works for Katemori

1093
00:50:41,519 --> 00:50:45,039
because it's a very like Arcadie sort of score ish

1094
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:47,800
based thing, so it makes sense to have like, okay,

1095
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,000
you know, hit this goal within a timeline or a

1096
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:53,039
finish or get it like twice as big to get

1097
00:50:53,039 --> 00:50:55,440
the extra star or you know, three times it's big

1098
00:50:55,519 --> 00:50:57,800
to get the extra star. Stuff like that. And yeah,

1099
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:00,719
like I said, it's in Apple Arcades, so it's you know,

1100
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,760
it's like to Apple devices for now, which is a

1101
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,159
bit of a bummer. Maybe I'll come to our stuff later.

1102
00:51:05,199 --> 00:51:07,760
Who knows, maybe Apple fronted it, so maybe I'll never

1103
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,679
come to something else, but for now, yeah, you can

1104
00:51:09,679 --> 00:51:11,880
play on Apple device and it kind of just is

1105
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,039
a Katamari game. It has funnel spin on. So I'm

1106
00:51:14,039 --> 00:51:14,599
having a good time.

1107
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,760
Speaker 1: Cool, I just want to have the Apple device. I'm

1108
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:21,320
gonna do this. I just opened something. It's opened arcade

1109
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:28,000
and okay, so the number one game on Apple Arcade

1110
00:51:28,159 --> 00:51:32,960
right now is something called Roller Coaster Tycoon Classic Plus.

1111
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,159
Speaker 3: Yeah. I saw that. I downloaded that. I haven't checked

1112
00:51:35,159 --> 00:51:35,760
it out yet.

1113
00:51:35,639 --> 00:51:38,119
Speaker 1: Though there is not a game on the planet that

1114
00:51:38,199 --> 00:51:43,760
would rather play less on my phone. Roller Coaster Tycoon one.

1115
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,920
Well it doesn't look like the Yeah, I don't want

1116
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:53,599
to the screen too small. No, not the same though,

1117
00:51:53,639 --> 00:51:55,800
because part of the appeal of the roller Coaster Tycoon

1118
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:59,440
to me is that screen big can see a lot

1119
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,360
of but at the same time the whole time.

1120
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:04,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, Nicky, I'm with you.

1121
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:08,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with Nikki. Okay, Well it's a good thing.

1122
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 3: It's not phone game. You can play it on the big.

1123
00:52:13,519 --> 00:52:16,119
Speaker 1: Like Taiku two from when I was a kid that

1124
00:52:16,599 --> 00:52:20,239
Saturday two thousand. But you do want to know what

1125
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,760
the number ten game on Apple Arcade is. Yeah, Space

1126
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,559
Invader's Infinity gene Evo. Oh, that's also familiar, Sean. Have

1127
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:29,360
you played that one?

1128
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:35,599
Speaker 3: I've also been playing Space Invaders, So this is an

1129
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:38,400
interesting one. I didn't know this game existed, but maybe

1130
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,960
you guys do, because it's an old iOS game from

1131
00:52:42,039 --> 00:52:43,960
way back in the day, like two thousand and nine

1132
00:52:44,039 --> 00:52:46,320
or ten that got ported to X B L A

1133
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,119
and p S three.

1134
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: Oh. I probably played and then I got reported back.

1135
00:52:50,920 --> 00:52:53,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's what they're doing here, is there basically

1136
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:56,320
bringing back a game that had died due to iOS

1137
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:59,199
incmpatability or the course of over a decade, So.

1138
00:52:59,119 --> 00:53:02,159
Speaker 1: That's why I had three up titles. Yeah, kind of.

1139
00:53:03,639 --> 00:53:05,679
Speaker 3: It is back Ris capable on Xbox. For what's worth.

1140
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,800
It's a cool game because you start out and it's

1141
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,800
like nineteen seventy eight and you're just playing Space Invaders,

1142
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,079
but you know you like move your finger to like

1143
00:53:14,119 --> 00:53:17,079
move the ship back and forth. Well, what happens after

1144
00:53:17,119 --> 00:53:20,960
that is that you get a quote from like Einstein

1145
00:53:21,159 --> 00:53:24,079
or something, and then the game is like evolve and

1146
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,159
then every time that happens, as the game goes on,

1147
00:53:27,679 --> 00:53:30,440
a new element is added to the game. So at

1148
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,480
first it's like, oh, now only can you move left

1149
00:53:32,519 --> 00:53:34,440
and right? Now you can move up and down, and

1150
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:39,039
then it'll be like evolve and now there's color, and

1151
00:53:39,039 --> 00:53:41,199
then it's like evolve and now you have a counter move,

1152
00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:47,079
and then evolve. Now there's music swapping between like adding

1153
00:53:47,599 --> 00:53:50,519
things to the game, and sometimes it's all you expect,

1154
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,800
like oh, now the bosses are in three D. But

1155
00:53:52,840 --> 00:53:55,039
then other times it'll be like, yeah, now you have

1156
00:53:55,079 --> 00:54:00,599
this gigantic like counter attack move. Yeah, yes, very cool.

1157
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,559
How you start with just Space Invaders, but then like

1158
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:06,400
I'm I don't know, I'm on it survived by Worlds

1159
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,840
it's like Mario like three Dash one or whatever, and

1160
00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:11,199
so I'm like on the third world and now it's

1161
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,320
like a bullet hell game with like vibrant colors and

1162
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,400
like really cool music and stuff.

1163
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:21,639
Speaker 7: If you die is it it's a live space and

1164
00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:24,440
stage based so you get like three lives to start,

1165
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,880
and if you know your three ships are taken out,

1166
00:54:27,039 --> 00:54:28,400
then you do you start.

1167
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:32,199
Speaker 3: The level again. And yeah, there's also like you one

1168
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,519
of the I think this isn't an evolution, but it's

1169
00:54:34,559 --> 00:54:36,679
just x amount stages. You'll get a new ship and

1170
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,880
so start off, you know, you're just like pep little

1171
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:42,039
space invader ship. But the one I just unlocked is

1172
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:46,239
like Seeker where it's fire slowly but it's homing beams

1173
00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,480
that will like go like in random angles and ship

1174
00:54:49,599 --> 00:54:50,719
until it hits an enemy.

1175
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: It's just a really great see.

1176
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:57,559
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, I was talking about how Katamari is, like

1177
00:54:57,599 --> 00:54:59,760
the touch controls aren't great, and so like maybe you

1178
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:01,639
would I want to play it on like another Apple device.

1179
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,360
This is uh it started as a mobile game, but

1180
00:55:04,400 --> 00:55:06,679
it is so made for mobile that has it'd been

1181
00:55:06,679 --> 00:55:08,559
a great experience because then I just play a level

1182
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:10,320
or two, you know, as I'm winding out at the

1183
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,719
end of the day and it's a it's just a

1184
00:55:12,760 --> 00:55:14,960
really fun Arcadie time and so I'm having a great

1185
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:15,639
time with that too.

1186
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, dude, why aren't you playing Fruit Ninja though?

1187
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:22,639
You know the only good doodle Jump? Oh? Okay, Well,

1188
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,840
speaking of doodle Jump, did you know that on Apple

1189
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,880
Arcade you can get doodle Jump two plus? Oh?

1190
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,119
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have some like Apple Kid has some like

1191
00:55:31,199 --> 00:55:34,400
two games of like the classics, but it's like revamped

1192
00:55:34,440 --> 00:55:36,519
visuals and then no micro transactions.

1193
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,159
Speaker 1: And so Tiny Wings we are checking.

1194
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,480
Speaker 2: I like I would like to Oh I never played

1195
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:42,960
Tiny Wings.

1196
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 5: It was fun, but I will still no, I'll never forget.

1197
00:55:51,159 --> 00:55:53,920
Uh when as a game Informer and phone games were

1198
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,199
kind of a thing, Ben Hansen excitedly coming up to

1199
00:55:56,239 --> 00:55:58,199
me and saying, like, do you want to see the

1200
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,159
face of God?

1201
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 6: Like?

1202
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 5: What download Triple Town on iOS.

1203
00:56:05,679 --> 00:56:07,239
Speaker 1: It's a fine little iPhone.

1204
00:56:07,639 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 5: That's the most handsome way to put the face of.

1205
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: God described the horse from a Shadows.

1206
00:56:16,599 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 3: Yes, of course, Bones one for you. I downloaded. There's

1207
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:25,559
a Tycho Drummaster game that's exclusive. Yeah, I went to

1208
00:56:26,039 --> 00:56:28,400
you know that have the usual stuff. They have like originals.

1209
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:30,800
They have like a J pop, they have like uh

1210
00:56:31,039 --> 00:56:34,119
Namco music, and then went to the anime section and

1211
00:56:34,159 --> 00:56:36,920
it has like the opening to Cowboy Bebop, the opening

1212
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,559
to a Van Geli, and the opening to Demon Slayer. Uh,

1213
00:56:40,639 --> 00:56:43,159
you got a Friend in Me from toy Story, Let

1214
00:56:43,199 --> 00:56:47,400
it Go from Frozen All the stars are here? Yeah?

1215
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. Did you know that they still make those

1216
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:58,039
Asphalt racing games there? Wow? Is that game Loft? Yeah?

1217
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 5: I think so. I think there was a long family

1218
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:04,400
tradition right there. Yeah, there was a Launch three DS game, right,

1219
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:05,239
Asphalt three D.

1220
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:06,639
Speaker 1: Yes, I think, yeah, that sounds right.

1221
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I remember reviewing it being very boring.

1222
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,159
Speaker 1: They're on I think the one that is out right

1223
00:57:12,199 --> 00:57:17,920
now is nine. It's called the Asphalt Legends Unite. Well

1224
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,119
there are three, but I guess they're making a billion

1225
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:20,679
dollars off.

1226
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 3: There's micro transactions or there's like an Apple Arcade versus

1227
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,119
and again that that's why I like this subscription is

1228
00:57:26,159 --> 00:57:29,840
that it's like it's original games made specifically for the

1229
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:33,639
service as well as mobile games with all the like

1230
00:57:33,679 --> 00:57:36,639
micro transactions and shit ripped out, and he just kind

1231
00:57:36,639 --> 00:57:37,480
of is still.

1232
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: Very appealing to me.

1233
00:57:38,119 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, yeah, those assphall games are just like whenever

1234
00:57:42,519 --> 00:57:45,280
you find out there's like ten million people whose favorite

1235
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,840
game ever is Need for Speed. The same thing happened

1236
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,159
on mobile with Asphalt.

1237
00:57:49,239 --> 00:57:54,119
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, I want to meet these humans and that's

1238
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:56,559
just to study them.

1239
00:57:56,639 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, you've been playing a little indie game

1240
00:58:01,039 --> 00:58:03,960
called Metroid Prime Remastered. Do you want to talk about

1241
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,159
that done?

1242
00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 5: I'm I'm in a Metroid state of mind lately, especially

1243
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:11,480
after the Nintendo thing, and so I was playing it.

1244
00:58:11,519 --> 00:58:13,599
I streamed it last couple of weeks, and then I

1245
00:58:13,719 --> 00:58:15,480
played it on the plane to and from New York,

1246
00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:19,239
and uh, yeah, that one is incredible. It made me

1247
00:58:19,639 --> 00:58:21,639
sad that there was not more news about two or

1248
00:58:21,639 --> 00:58:23,199
three because now I kind of do want to do

1249
00:58:23,199 --> 00:58:25,760
two and three before four comes out, because I beat

1250
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,599
three back in the day, never beat two, and I

1251
00:58:28,679 --> 00:58:30,880
kind of just want to roll through all noun of mood.

1252
00:58:32,079 --> 00:58:36,320
But yeah, look, I didn't like it either.

1253
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:40,519
Speaker 1: I like it.

1254
00:58:40,519 --> 00:58:43,079
Speaker 5: It's just such a good remaster, Like the controls are incredible.

1255
00:58:43,079 --> 00:58:45,039
And then, like on a lark, I just decided to like,

1256
00:58:45,079 --> 00:58:47,800
oh what if I plugged in my wave Ford thing

1257
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,400
to the switch adapter GameCube thing on the switch and

1258
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,079
it just worked, and it just mapped all of the

1259
00:58:53,079 --> 00:58:55,599
controls to a wave Ford which called that's a wild

1260
00:58:55,639 --> 00:58:56,840
thing to do. But then it's like, well, no, the

1261
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,159
new controls are incredible. Why wouldn't I do that? And

1262
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,960
you can turn on to like the camera with the

1263
00:59:01,039 --> 00:59:06,039
like gyro plus uh the stick stuff. That's incredible. So

1264
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:07,760
that's all to say, Metric Brime, you haven't played, it

1265
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,559
holds up incredibly well. Today I did just get I'm

1266
00:59:11,639 --> 00:59:13,159
late enough in the game now to where it's like,

1267
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:17,039
oh boy, there is long stretches between save rooms with

1268
00:59:17,159 --> 00:59:21,239
like multiple very tough combat encounters and uh gets a

1269
00:59:21,239 --> 00:59:23,400
little frustrating, But hey, I guess that's just.

1270
00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can do it.

1271
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,079
Speaker 5: I have been behaim several times before. It's just like

1272
00:59:28,119 --> 00:59:29,800
I forgot kind of how it's like, oh man, this

1273
00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:32,159
does get tough. But yeah, I do want to go

1274
00:59:32,159 --> 00:59:34,519
on to two and probably what's the best way to

1275
00:59:34,519 --> 00:59:35,960
play through? I mean I have it on week Well

1276
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:36,639
the best.

1277
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,039
Speaker 2: I mean there's the best way and then there's the

1278
00:59:39,079 --> 00:59:41,559
best Well there's all yeah, there's the wrong way with

1279
00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,320
the key mouse and keyboard prime.

1280
00:59:43,360 --> 00:59:47,639
Speaker 1: X keyboard and it works perfectly.

1281
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,840
Speaker 5: Okay, I want to sounds great.

1282
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,559
Speaker 4: Now, I'm going to like do one of those myself

1283
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:55,000
here because I want to play two and three really

1284
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,760
bad two before four comes out. I'm gonna wait until

1285
00:59:57,760 --> 00:59:59,599
we get a release day for four. If they announced

1286
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:01,679
the release stayed for four and they still haven't said

1287
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:06,320
anything about Metro Prime two and three, uh, then at

1288
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:08,000
that point I'm like, all right, fine, I'm just gonna

1289
01:00:08,000 --> 01:00:10,719
bust out the w U or try that or whatever

1290
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:13,119
it's gonna take. But yeah, I want to play for

1291
01:00:13,199 --> 01:00:15,519
Prime two so badly. It's weird to me, but they

1292
01:00:15,519 --> 01:00:16,719
haven't just dropped that yet.

1293
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,679
Speaker 5: Almost makes me want to play Dread again. I haven't

1294
01:00:18,679 --> 01:00:19,320
played it since I came.

1295
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:27,519
Speaker 1: I always people are talking about Metroid Dread fucking bangs. Yeah,

1296
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:36,239
Metro Prime Pinball so good. I'm another defender a Mile

1297
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:45,039
Hunters Prime Hunters. There was a generation force. God didn't

1298
01:00:45,239 --> 01:00:48,440
did the Nintendo DS not come with a demo for

1299
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:54,159
Metro Prime Hunter first? Yeah? God, I was horrible. It's

1300
01:00:54,199 --> 01:00:55,880
not good. Yeah right.

1301
01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,679
Speaker 2: I know a YouTuber who was in a clan for

1302
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,800
Metroid Prime Hunters, and I think that's how I've ever heard.

1303
01:01:02,559 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: Wow beautiful actually let's go what number we'd be ranked

1304
01:01:08,559 --> 01:01:13,079
number one in the world. Yeah, yeah, right now Samus's angels. Okay,

1305
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,039
that's pretty good.

1306
01:01:14,119 --> 01:01:15,199
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, that's pretty good.

1307
01:01:15,199 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 1: Do we get jackets? Yeah? Cool, just the.

1308
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: Same, the same Yakuza jackets got last year from coin.

1309
01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:24,239
Speaker 1: But yeah.

1310
01:01:24,679 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 5: Speaking of dumb achievements, have I mentioned on here that

1311
01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:29,079
I became the number ten et speed runner in the world.

1312
01:01:29,199 --> 01:01:30,119
Speaker 1: I don't know if you take here.

1313
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:32,559
Speaker 5: No, I don't know if you did. Congratulations, but thank you.

1314
01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:34,360
I'm the You can check speed run dot com. I'm

1315
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,719
number ten in the world to go what was your time?

1316
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: What? What was your time?

1317
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:41,039
Speaker 5: Oh, it's like a minute forty something.

1318
01:01:41,039 --> 01:01:43,039
Speaker 3: I'll put it up. Let me see something out of

1319
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:44,679
your way after the stream or do you submit the

1320
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:45,199
stream thing?

1321
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 6: No?

1322
01:01:46,199 --> 01:01:48,119
Speaker 5: After I did the Blake Club thing, I went back to, well,

1323
01:01:48,119 --> 01:01:49,519
I have all the stupid knowledge now I might as

1324
01:01:49,559 --> 01:01:53,280
well do something with it. Yeah, a minute forty three seconds,

1325
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:55,679
in nine hundred and sixty six milliseconds is my time.

1326
01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:57,880
There's one person in the world that's done it in

1327
01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,519
under a minute, which is crazy.

1328
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,559
Speaker 1: Do you do you know? Do you know where you

1329
01:02:02,599 --> 01:02:03,599
can pick up more time?

1330
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:07,119
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just like kind of random, Like there's

1331
01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:08,400
definitely place the.

1332
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,679
Speaker 1: RNG at this point.

1333
01:02:10,199 --> 01:02:13,079
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, yeah, okay, so it's not like I can

1334
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:16,079
get like rats and like, yeah tricks.

1335
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:23,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I understand what I have. Yeah yeah, yeah, you're

1336
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:28,039
also playing a game that is not real, but it's

1337
01:02:28,159 --> 01:02:31,079
under the game section, so I'm going to read it.

1338
01:02:31,079 --> 01:02:36,679
Speaker 7: It's East East East.

1339
01:02:37,519 --> 01:02:41,960
Speaker 1: Of Dana. Yeah, who's Dana? And what is her? Lachrymosa

1340
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,440
all of it. I said.

1341
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:48,039
Speaker 5: I don't want to spoil story stuff, but it's very

1342
01:02:48,079 --> 01:02:53,320
good action RPG starts with a shipwreck. You're that the

1343
01:02:53,360 --> 01:02:55,760
action is fantastic. You can switch to characters on the fly.

1344
01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:57,960
Lots of fun like leveling up and get different skills

1345
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,000
and things like that. There's like a which time mechanic

1346
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:03,440
could be dodged perfectly. I played it, uh just on

1347
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:05,400
my computer, but I am intending. I got some flights

1348
01:03:05,400 --> 01:03:06,719
coming up. That is going to be a Steam deck

1349
01:03:06,719 --> 01:03:09,039
game for me. I intend to keep playing East eight

1350
01:03:09,199 --> 01:03:10,159
Lachrymosa Dance.

1351
01:03:10,039 --> 01:03:10,599
Speaker 1: Now a dance.

1352
01:03:10,639 --> 01:03:13,079
Speaker 4: Some people say that the beginning is maybe a little

1353
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:14,880
slow and talkie how did you find it?

1354
01:03:15,679 --> 01:03:18,159
Speaker 1: You just kind of have a little patience shot from

1355
01:03:18,159 --> 01:03:18,920
Giant Bomb you have a.

1356
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:22,639
Speaker 3: Question, is this a counter blight because as Dan in

1357
01:03:22,679 --> 01:03:24,199
the name, and you're worried that they were going to

1358
01:03:24,239 --> 01:03:26,639
pick an RPG with anime your own.

1359
01:03:26,719 --> 01:03:28,840
Speaker 5: No, No, Black Club is the worst games ever. This

1360
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,199
is like look at the meta, Craig. It's like, you know,

1361
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,079
got like eighty five.

1362
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 3: That doesn't matter to Dan Reichert in my head.

1363
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:36,239
Speaker 5: No, I'm just it's a good game. It's a good

1364
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,719
video game. I didn't play it back when it came out,

1365
01:03:38,719 --> 01:03:40,119
and I figured it's time to give it its due now.

1366
01:03:40,199 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 1: Yes, Nik, is there a man with a gun underneath

1367
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,000
your desk? No?

1368
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 5: No, I just ii a video check.

1369
01:03:50,199 --> 01:03:51,840
Speaker 4: Who told you about this game? Who told you maybe

1370
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:52,800
you should try this game out?

1371
01:03:53,119 --> 01:03:53,320
Speaker 1: Mike?

1372
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 5: For a living?

1373
01:03:55,360 --> 01:03:57,800
Speaker 1: He learned it from watching you, Mike. Yeah, he learned

1374
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,000
pregs from you. Who's your wife? And damn is it Lexia?

1375
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:09,519
Is it ricotta cheese? It's your wife?

1376
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,800
Speaker 5: You know what that you know exactly what that means.

1377
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,719
But I'm gonna say none of them. This is my

1378
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,039
party in my adventure.

1379
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:18,679
Speaker 3: This is the ultimate troll. He probably is just doing

1380
01:04:18,719 --> 01:04:20,880
this to get us to do this. This is just

1381
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:22,079
like the ultimate.

1382
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:24,719
Speaker 1: On my own time on my own stream.

1383
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,639
Speaker 5: I didn't even I didn't tell you guys about it.

1384
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:28,400
Speaker 1: What's a lachrymosa?

1385
01:04:29,079 --> 01:04:31,679
Speaker 5: I don't want to spy stuff with you.

1386
01:04:35,639 --> 01:04:39,559
Speaker 1: Is it Escape Italian? Wait? How far it's Latin?

1387
01:04:39,599 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 5: For a week, I'd say I played less than two

1388
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:44,960
hours and I've been in the blueprints hole for a

1389
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,239
while here. But I do intend on going.

1390
01:04:46,159 --> 01:04:50,119
Speaker 1: Back to You're halfway there. I think it's like a thirty.

1391
01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 5: Five hour game, just main story stuff. But yeah, the

1392
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:57,079
action is fantastic, incredible soundtrack, really good stuff moving.

1393
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was I was playing this game in my

1394
01:05:00,079 --> 01:05:02,559
my early steam deck days and I was enjoying it.

1395
01:05:02,599 --> 01:05:04,280
I did fall off. I do kind of want to

1396
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,239
go back to it. I think I think people still

1397
01:05:06,280 --> 01:05:08,360
think it's the best of the modern yeas because we

1398
01:05:08,400 --> 01:05:11,199
have a nine, we have a ten now. And I

1399
01:05:11,239 --> 01:05:13,320
also just like the Island vibes of this. I like

1400
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,559
the whole Castway flavor going on here. It's a it's

1401
01:05:16,559 --> 01:05:19,320
a pretty game. It's a bit it is very anime,

1402
01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:23,159
which some people don't like, but some people can apparent.

1403
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:24,039
Speaker 1: That's about my boy Dan.

1404
01:05:25,719 --> 01:05:27,119
Speaker 5: I mean, it's just a good video game.

1405
01:05:27,199 --> 01:05:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1406
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,119
Speaker 4: I rated a V tuber After my stream this week,

1407
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,000
you messaged me.

1408
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 5: You were so upset, I'm gonna go to jail because

1409
01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:42,920
you're saying some tuber.

1410
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:48,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're a very nice person. Well, I'm happy that

1411
01:05:48,159 --> 01:05:52,800
you're learning about the other side. What the what the

1412
01:05:52,840 --> 01:05:55,280
other half likes. And by the other half, I mean

1413
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:56,320
people who like anime.

1414
01:05:58,079 --> 01:05:59,199
Speaker 5: Anything can be good.

1415
01:05:59,679 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: Wow. I don't know if that's true. But you know

1416
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:07,719
what is always good? Numbers? Yeah, well it can't lie

1417
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:11,360
to you. You can't manipulate those things. They're just just

1418
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:14,760
a uniform fact of life. And Mike is here to

1419
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,559
show us how they're made because he's been playing Nubbies

1420
01:06:17,639 --> 01:06:21,840
Number Factory, which is as it's a pegl like if

1421
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,760
I remember understanding correctly.

1422
01:06:23,639 --> 01:06:26,519
Speaker 4: It's a Peggl rogue. Like Jan talked about this one

1423
01:06:26,599 --> 01:06:27,239
last week.

1424
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: I played a little bit of it as well.

1425
01:06:29,239 --> 01:06:32,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, this sounded this sounded kind of up my alley,

1426
01:06:32,119 --> 01:06:34,639
Like I'm not the biggest pegl fan, but I like it.

1427
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:35,239
Speaker 1: I love.

1428
01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 4: What really got me here is the aesthetic because it's

1429
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:44,559
very much like mid nineties uh like web designs, especially

1430
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:47,159
people making their own websites. It's all the sort of

1431
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:53,639
garish colors and unnecessary gifts right and parents. Yeah, it's

1432
01:06:53,719 --> 01:06:57,760
kind of geocs rotating. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that aspect of

1433
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:59,840
it is great. But even like yeah, like the sort

1434
01:06:59,880 --> 01:07:03,840
of Peggl Rogue Lake stuff here is fun. It's definitely

1435
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:07,840
in that Bilacho realm of being a roguelike where you're

1436
01:07:07,920 --> 01:07:10,039
kind of working your way to getting certain builds by

1437
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:12,320
finding the right upgrades and persons.

1438
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:12,840
Speaker 1: Jokers.

1439
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:15,119
Speaker 4: It kind of has jokers in fact, once you beat

1440
01:07:15,159 --> 01:07:17,519
a run even like has like the variants right, like

1441
01:07:17,559 --> 01:07:19,880
we'll now try to do it with this rule slightly different.

1442
01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:22,360
So it's a lot like that. It was one of

1443
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,119
those things too, was like, you know, struggling to get

1444
01:07:24,159 --> 01:07:26,519
through a run and it was like, oh, I'm getting

1445
01:07:26,519 --> 01:07:28,280
a little for a little for then suddenly I just

1446
01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,679
get the god build where I am just summoning a

1447
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:36,599
million cactus spikes and meatball clouds and all these other

1448
01:07:36,639 --> 01:07:39,400
things that are just going right. Like it suddenly it's

1449
01:07:39,480 --> 01:07:43,280
not pegl really anymore. It doesn't really matter where I'm

1450
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:47,599
shooting the ball. It's just like just trying to like

1451
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:50,280
you keep going and getting the bill better. It's great

1452
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,000
because like if you sort of overshoot the goal, like

1453
01:07:53,079 --> 01:07:55,440
the points goal. Then you get bonuses based on that

1454
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,000
that gives you more money and more lives.

1455
01:07:58,360 --> 01:07:58,559
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1456
01:07:58,639 --> 01:08:00,639
Speaker 4: Jan talked about this last week, and I'm just here

1457
01:08:00,679 --> 01:08:03,440
to say I really liked it. I thought it was

1458
01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:06,119
it was great. I enjoyed beating it for like that

1459
01:08:06,159 --> 01:08:08,159
first time. I think I might go back to it

1460
01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:10,559
at some point, maybe try some of these variant decks

1461
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:11,760
and things like that.

1462
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,159
Speaker 1: But yeah, you're looking for a one.

1463
01:08:14,000 --> 01:08:16,680
Speaker 4: Of these, whether it's a pegl like or a Billatro

1464
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,520
style roguelike. I think this is a great one to

1465
01:08:19,560 --> 01:08:20,039
get into.

1466
01:08:20,359 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 5: To get an immediate sense of the aesthetic, just go

1467
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:25,960
to the developer's website. It's mogdog blog dot com and

1468
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,920
you will instantly get what it's going for aesthetically.

1469
01:08:29,359 --> 01:08:30,119
Speaker 1: Yeah. Good.

1470
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,199
Speaker 5: Also, kind of on that note, I played a little

1471
01:08:32,199 --> 01:08:34,359
bit of a peg idol. I don't know if you've

1472
01:08:34,359 --> 01:08:37,439
heard of that, but it's an idle pegl It's it's pegel,

1473
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,800
but it's an idol game. And so it's just like

1474
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:42,880
you are leveling up each individual ball and you know,

1475
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:44,880
this is like a big rock one that knocks out

1476
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:47,359
like several pegs, and it's just okay. You get auto

1477
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,039
drop where Okay, I've leveled this one up the super

1478
01:08:50,039 --> 01:08:52,960
bouncy ball to just auto drop, and it's very very

1479
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:55,600
satisfying starting with just pegel and then it's just.

1480
01:08:55,560 --> 01:08:57,039
Speaker 1: Like, oh, there's just balls everywhere.

1481
01:08:57,079 --> 01:09:03,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dan a peg idol like idol game okay, yeah

1482
01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:08,039
yeah Yeah. Within two seconds you'll be like, oh, I see,

1483
01:09:08,079 --> 01:09:08,760
I see what's going on?

1484
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,800
Speaker 1: Here is brain? Oh there's there's a skilled tree. Yeah,

1485
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,119
it's look at those balls. There's a lot of Yeah,

1486
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:20,319
there's a lot of God, that's so many balls.

1487
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:24,600
Speaker 4: There's only a few balls in uh in Nubby Factory.

1488
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:25,279
Speaker 1: It's a very different.

1489
01:09:27,119 --> 01:09:29,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's more about the other bullshit that you summon

1490
01:09:29,239 --> 01:09:30,439
through hitting your balls.

1491
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,279
Speaker 5: It's a good, good time for Pegel likes.

1492
01:09:34,720 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just think that they should make a second

1493
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:40,079
one personally. Yeah, that's.

1494
01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 4: Why haven't they made a Peggle three or did they

1495
01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:46,319
do that? And I just never found out, like why

1496
01:09:46,399 --> 01:09:46,920
I didn't make it?

1497
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:49,680
Speaker 1: More they made a peg three. They made a peg

1498
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:55,119
for the phone called blast okay that like people hate people,

1499
01:09:55,399 --> 01:09:56,000
it's not good.

1500
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,199
Speaker 5: There was the phone one in like eighth nine because

1501
01:09:59,199 --> 01:10:01,720
I remember when I were at the Garmin call center

1502
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,199
right before game Informer hired me. I would just spend

1503
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:09,479
egregious amounts of time on the shitter playing Pegle on

1504
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:11,840
my iPhone and I was in there until like my

1505
01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:13,560
supervisor came in looking for me.

1506
01:10:14,079 --> 01:10:17,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean listen, but if you're in there, you're sick.

1507
01:10:17,439 --> 01:10:19,399
Speaker 5: And that's just yeah, Yeah, I've got body stuff going on.

1508
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:20,479
You can't tell me you can't.

1509
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:22,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly can't talk my body out of poop.

1510
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 1: And yeah, Nubbies Number Factory, I've been playing, And by

1511
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:31,840
been playing, I mean I finished the video game avowed.

1512
01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:37,399
Oh wow. I don't want to spoil it, because that

1513
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:44,119
game is really really cool, but it really comes together

1514
01:10:44,399 --> 01:10:47,199
there at the end. It felt a little bit spacey

1515
01:10:47,359 --> 01:10:52,640
to me in the the second to last area, but

1516
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,159
then you get to the last area, and then I

1517
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:56,319
was like, Ah, these fuckers are cooking, Like they know

1518
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:59,319
exactly what they're doing, they know why they're doing it,

1519
01:11:00,079 --> 01:11:02,840
and I don't feel like there is a team better

1520
01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:04,920
than Obsidian to kind of tell the story that they're

1521
01:11:04,960 --> 01:11:08,760
trying to tell here. I cannot wait for them to

1522
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:11,960
make another one of these. Yeah in a way where

1523
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:17,000
I'm like, wow, they they kind of just they from

1524
01:11:17,039 --> 01:11:20,199
from a video game that had by their own admission,

1525
01:11:21,159 --> 01:11:27,439
a rocky development cycle got started and stopped multiple times,

1526
01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:32,840
and then was a different game. At one point, something

1527
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,199
like the core parkor mechanic was from it, like an

1528
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:39,119
is the oldest part of the game, I think they mentioned,

1529
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,279
because at one point the game was much more traversal based,

1530
01:11:43,159 --> 01:11:45,359
but they liked it, so they kept it, and then

1531
01:11:45,399 --> 01:11:49,760
they tweaked the rest of it around it. It really

1532
01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,760
comes together in a way where it feels patchwork, but

1533
01:11:52,880 --> 01:11:56,039
in a way it's quilt like in the way it's patchwork,

1534
01:11:56,079 --> 01:12:01,159
it doesn't feel like rough shod or or lacking in

1535
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:05,239
any way. So yeah, if you have not played the

1536
01:12:05,279 --> 01:12:08,479
video game avowed, I think you probably should.

1537
01:12:09,079 --> 01:12:11,800
Speaker 3: Speaking of I actually did fire Up. I tried out

1538
01:12:12,159 --> 01:12:14,319
over the weekend. Yeah, because I finally had the time too.

1539
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,520
And yeah, you know, typically not my thing, the sort

1540
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:20,800
of like more high fantasy fantasy, and that's sort of

1541
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:24,600
what they're going for there, very elder scrollzy. But I

1542
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:27,199
was like, let me get through some of this because

1543
01:12:27,199 --> 01:12:29,399
there are exceptions to rules with that if other things

1544
01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:32,199
I like, And yeah, y'all were right that combat rips

1545
01:12:32,359 --> 01:12:32,720
that is.

1546
01:12:36,039 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: Taste, yeah, and there and there are so many different

1547
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:45,119
avenues for it, like it's not even that. Like I

1548
01:12:45,279 --> 01:12:47,800
switched up my build for the last ten hours of

1549
01:12:47,840 --> 01:12:50,760
the game, which is nuts. Like I had been rocking

1550
01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:54,680
this big like cattle prod basically ended a gun a

1551
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:56,720
laser gun, and then at the end, I was like,

1552
01:12:57,159 --> 01:13:01,039
fucking sword and shields though, huh is? And then I

1553
01:13:01,199 --> 01:13:04,159
like respect my guy, and I like got a bunch

1554
01:13:04,199 --> 01:13:08,159
of Perry stuff like added to my character. And then

1555
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:11,560
I was like, oh no, like this this shit feels great. Also,

1556
01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:16,560
the magic feels really good. All this. Yeah, I feel like, well.

1557
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,800
Speaker 3: You can like switch between the load outs and they

1558
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,319
flow into each other like I started out with. This

1559
01:13:23,399 --> 01:13:26,159
is probably where most people start with, like magic and

1560
01:13:26,199 --> 01:13:28,840
a melee weapon where the magic, you know, I'll use

1561
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,520
that to stun and deal damage over time, then switch

1562
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:33,399
back to the melee weapon to get ready for when

1563
01:13:33,399 --> 01:13:35,600
the enemy like thaws out from the ice and goes

1564
01:13:35,640 --> 01:13:37,239
to attack me. So I wait and Perry with the

1565
01:13:37,279 --> 01:13:39,840
shield and I get some big damage in with the sword.

1566
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:42,720
It is fun how easy it is to switch between

1567
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:45,199
the two end how they do help each other out.

1568
01:13:45,319 --> 01:13:47,439
Like I'm I'm definitely enjoying why I played so far

1569
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,239
well we'll see how far I get. Again, Like the

1570
01:13:49,319 --> 01:13:51,840
story and everything not really my thing, but I like

1571
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,479
the gameplay so much so I do think I'll go

1572
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:54,399
back and try some more of that.

1573
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:57,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, I need to finishing that one up is on

1574
01:13:57,279 --> 01:13:59,239
my to do list. I got a dual pistol build

1575
01:13:59,279 --> 01:14:00,119
that I think.

1576
01:14:00,119 --> 01:14:05,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fun. It also like, so this story becomes

1577
01:14:05,680 --> 01:14:11,279
like goes from being like oh like or it maybe

1578
01:14:11,279 --> 01:14:15,000
it doesn't go from being it really is whole it's handholding,

1579
01:14:15,119 --> 01:14:19,359
like we're doing fantasy stuff. And also like this is

1580
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,640
just politics, like you are you are a guy that

1581
01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:26,279
has a lot of uh a lot of push and

1582
01:14:26,359 --> 01:14:31,399
pull in the world, but like it really is the

1583
01:14:31,479 --> 01:14:33,720
last decision you make in the game is you. It's

1584
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:36,560
just you do in politics. That's it. And it's like

1585
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:39,800
it's really naked about that in a way that made

1586
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,840
me go, well, fuck, what, like what do I think

1587
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:46,279
about this? Like how do I want this to move?

1588
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,920
And how do I want these people to move? So yeah,

1589
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,479
I don't want to I don't want to spoil too much,

1590
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,319
but good video game. If you haven't played it, and

1591
01:14:54,399 --> 01:14:58,159
if you have, perhaps finish it, because uh, we'll be

1592
01:14:58,159 --> 01:14:59,479
talking about it a lot at the end of the year.

1593
01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:00,359
Anything real quick.

1594
01:15:00,399 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 4: So that's a first person game of Park Court, Dan,

1595
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,680
you played up first person game with Park Yeah, this

1596
01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:09,319
week you rested on it, just you know, real quick.

1597
01:15:09,359 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Mirror's Edge?

1598
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 5: Now, there are still elements of it that I found

1599
01:15:15,039 --> 01:15:19,439
a little bit frustrating it, but no, no, I also

1600
01:15:20,079 --> 01:15:22,880
realizing the exact room where I put the controller down

1601
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,079
in two thousand funny, being like, well, that's a very

1602
01:15:25,079 --> 01:15:28,079
stupid reason to stop playing that game. So I gave

1603
01:15:28,079 --> 01:15:30,760
it some more time and attention this time, and it's like, yeah,

1604
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:32,600
I really like the parts where I don't like it

1605
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,920
as much when it slows down and it's like, you know,

1606
01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:36,760
you're just kind of like shimmying and trying to make

1607
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:39,239
awkward jumps. But when it's all this stuff where you're

1608
01:15:39,239 --> 01:15:41,880
just like running across rooftops, jumping and rolling and stuff

1609
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:44,079
like that and dodging bullets, like, it does a really

1610
01:15:44,079 --> 01:15:45,640
good job. And I still love the look of it.

1611
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:48,800
I think the look is aged incredibly well. So yeah,

1612
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,880
so I'm I'm now more beforehand, I probably would have

1613
01:15:51,920 --> 01:15:53,800
been like, oh, six out of ten. No, I'm probably

1614
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,199
more seven five out.

1615
01:15:55,119 --> 01:15:57,800
Speaker 1: Of ten who take it. Yeah, so free will pay

1616
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:04,640
five one point five plus two point five. It's four,

1617
01:16:05,039 --> 01:16:08,720
that's true. You know what else has a four in it?

1618
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:13,520
Speaker 5: The dark board and blueprints where you're going, by the way,

1619
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:14,359
get ready to do some.

1620
01:16:14,399 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 4: Mathus with the math of I did more math this

1621
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,680
weekend than I had in the last twenty years.

1622
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:27,479
Speaker 2: Somebody, yes, and you got some math concepts still coming

1623
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:30,079
your way, mic Oh, it's wacky maths.

1624
01:16:30,119 --> 01:16:35,720
Speaker 4: I hope because I think I've actually reached my limits.

1625
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: It gets ten concepts, some.

1626
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:40,760
Speaker 5: Wavy lines and some diamonds, and yeah, Jeff.

1627
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,520
Speaker 4: I thought, I'm sorry because like you're about to go

1628
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:44,479
somewhere else. But Jeff, I thought, like you set before

1629
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,720
that you don't like games where you have to take notes,

1630
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:48,800
but this one's very much that, right have you kind

1631
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:49,159
of been.

1632
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:52,560
Speaker 2: Well, no, no, I typically don't, especially when the games

1633
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,680
like you should be taking notes. And I said, unless

1634
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:56,920
it really earns it. Now, I'm not taking a lot

1635
01:16:56,920 --> 01:16:59,000
of notes playing this game. I'm keeping a lot of

1636
01:16:59,039 --> 01:17:01,560
strain and I'm doing I am taking a lot of

1637
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:04,079
screenshots and I'll go reference those if I have ideas

1638
01:17:04,079 --> 01:17:06,600
about them. There are some things I did have to

1639
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,880
take notes for I got MS paint out and did

1640
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,680
some work on that.

1641
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:13,199
Speaker 1: I love that.

1642
01:17:13,279 --> 01:17:17,279
Speaker 4: You what with that instead of a spreadsheet, which is beautiful.

1643
01:17:17,359 --> 01:17:20,399
Speaker 2: Yeah wait, because it's it's all the maps already a spreadsheet.

1644
01:17:20,479 --> 01:17:21,520
So it's like you're good to go.

1645
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,560
Speaker 5: You're the version of what I have here.

1646
01:17:24,239 --> 01:17:26,000
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. Yeah, totally.

1647
01:17:27,439 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 2: Killer out here, only when the game really earns it,

1648
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,439
because I'm just I've never been I don't I never

1649
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,199
needed to take notes in school, So I'm like.

1650
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:35,680
Speaker 1: I'm trying to have fun here.

1651
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,560
Speaker 2: But if a game is like really special and has

1652
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:40,520
a lot going on, then it can do it now.

1653
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:42,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm I'm a Jeff on that one. And I like,

1654
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,680
from the few hours I did play a blueprints did

1655
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:47,119
things exactly the same way, like screenshots and like I'll

1656
01:17:47,159 --> 01:17:49,520
like doodle something or something like that, visual versus text.

1657
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:49,960
I get that.

1658
01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly.

1659
01:17:51,079 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 2: I'm just keeping the ideas all up here.

1660
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:57,079
Speaker 1: Ye. Nicky was trying to get us over to no, no, no, no,

1661
01:17:57,239 --> 01:18:02,479
I've got I've got another one here. So the retro

1662
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:11,319
take four K huh incredible, Yeah, it's the retro take

1663
01:18:11,359 --> 01:18:11,720
four K.

1664
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,159
Speaker 2: See mine came and it was broken, and I you know,

1665
01:18:14,439 --> 01:18:17,079
everything's a discord now, so in the discord and I'm like, hello,

1666
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:20,079
people who live here, I need a little bit of help, please,

1667
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:22,359
And they always feel bad because I always feel like I'm

1668
01:18:22,319 --> 01:18:23,760
bothering people when I do that, but that's what it's

1669
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:26,279
there for. And they tell you all the things like

1670
01:18:26,359 --> 01:18:29,119
have you tried the right power supply. I'm like, I'm homie,

1671
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,399
I've tried every power supply in this house. I know

1672
01:18:31,439 --> 01:18:33,399
you guys are gonna yell at me for that. So yeah,

1673
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:35,800
here's a picture one it even says the right wattage.

1674
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:36,319
Speaker 1: Look at that.

1675
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: But they were still like, try other power supplies and

1676
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,119
I'm like, I'm pretty sure it's just broken. Eventually they're like, okay,

1677
01:18:42,119 --> 01:18:45,159
email Mike Chi, who's the creator of the retro tank,

1678
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:47,279
and I'm like, okay, Like, how do I do that?

1679
01:18:47,399 --> 01:18:49,600
Just respond to your order. I'm like, oh, okay, and I

1680
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:51,000
did that. He got right back to me and it

1681
01:18:51,079 --> 01:18:53,239
was just him and he had me send it to him,

1682
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:55,159
and he sent me back what I thought was a

1683
01:18:55,199 --> 01:18:57,479
repaired unit. And I'm trying out and it turned on

1684
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:59,600
this time, and this time, after like twenty minutes, the

1685
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,279
image would freeze and it just wouldn't work anymore. I'm like,

1686
01:19:02,319 --> 01:19:04,479
oh no, so I like wrote back. I went back

1687
01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:06,560
to Discord first, then went to Mike and he's like,

1688
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:08,960
I was using this one, like this was my personal

1689
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,479
one that I was using before I send it to you,

1690
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:11,800
so I.

1691
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,439
Speaker 1: Know it works. I'm like, huh, okay, we're gonna try

1692
01:19:14,479 --> 01:19:14,960
some things.

1693
01:19:15,159 --> 01:19:16,720
Speaker 2: And this led me to discovering I was trying to

1694
01:19:16,760 --> 01:19:18,520
plug it intrough my live game or four K my

1695
01:19:18,560 --> 01:19:20,800
capture card. I just had that plugged into the wrong

1696
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,800
PCIe port. So got it all set up and I've

1697
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,880
been using it and it's been working flawlessly now and

1698
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,159
it looks it's just so awesome messing around with that

1699
01:19:29,239 --> 01:19:31,239
with that thing, it's actually and it's easier to use

1700
01:19:31,239 --> 01:19:34,119
than I was thinking, Like, there are so many options.

1701
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:36,239
I thought it would be overwhelming. Just getting in there,

1702
01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:39,000
going with the profiles, making sure the right input is selected,

1703
01:19:39,079 --> 01:19:41,680
and then maybe if I have a digital signal. Messing

1704
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,560
around with some of the other aspects of it has

1705
01:19:43,640 --> 01:19:46,199
been really fun. But everything just looks so good on it.

1706
01:19:46,239 --> 01:19:47,800
It really kind of is worth the price.

1707
01:19:47,920 --> 01:19:49,720
Speaker 5: Well, it's got all the built in profiles that are

1708
01:19:49,720 --> 01:19:51,479
really great. I was like Okay, I'm playing this on

1709
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:53,279
in the Supernintendo game and I wanted to look this

1710
01:19:53,319 --> 01:19:55,199
certain way with this certain shader. That's great, but you

1711
01:19:55,199 --> 01:19:57,680
can also just like it has these auto buttons on

1712
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,640
the remote. Which a thing I really like about the

1713
01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,159
four K over the five Acts which I had before

1714
01:20:02,319 --> 01:20:04,159
is that was just kind of a generic remote that

1715
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:07,760
wasn't really labeled. The four K one is very specifically

1716
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:09,680
like here is what this stuff does. So it's a

1717
01:20:09,680 --> 01:20:12,039
lot easier to just kind of navigate and do the

1718
01:20:12,079 --> 01:20:14,359
auto cropping and the auto game and all that stuff.

1719
01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:16,279
Speaker 1: So just a lot easier to use.

1720
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 5: So, yeah, we like to play a lot of old games,

1721
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:21,960
so it's great device to have profiles, Like, yeah, the

1722
01:20:21,960 --> 01:20:22,840
profiles are awesome.

1723
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they have been made by like someone in the

1724
01:20:25,680 --> 01:20:28,000
community really trusts. If you're going with the default one,

1725
01:20:28,199 --> 01:20:30,159
I believe they're still fire Brand X, and yeah, they

1726
01:20:30,199 --> 01:20:32,199
just always do a great job putting all that stuff together.

1727
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,479
Speaker 2: There's a handful of folders now in each one where

1728
01:20:34,479 --> 01:20:37,439
it's like Firebrand X and then there's Wobbly Pixels, a

1729
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:38,760
whole bunch of other people that are.

1730
01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:39,239
Speaker 1: All making them.

1731
01:20:39,319 --> 01:20:40,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all a lot of them are included, but

1732
01:20:40,840 --> 01:20:42,079
then you can go to the wiki and find a

1733
01:20:42,079 --> 01:20:47,199
bunch more. But it's just it's looking fantastic and plugged

1734
01:20:47,239 --> 01:20:49,399
in the N sixty four, plugged in the Mister, plugged

1735
01:20:49,439 --> 01:20:52,720
in PS one. So yeah, this week over Blood I got,

1736
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:56,479
I got looked at the opening video. Looks fantastic now GameCube,

1737
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:59,119
all of it. It's just fantastic. So yeah, really happy

1738
01:20:59,119 --> 01:20:59,319
with it.

1739
01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,159
Speaker 5: VHS profile and I use it and watch the part

1740
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:05,079
of the Best of tool Time VHS. Oh yeah, yeah,

1741
01:21:05,159 --> 01:21:08,359
looking fantastic. Kind of like an lg O lead playing

1742
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:11,600
a VHS of tool Time is like, yeah, all right,

1743
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,760
my cat striple h Yeah.

1744
01:21:13,960 --> 01:21:16,199
Speaker 1: You could even like add auto HDR like it has

1745
01:21:16,279 --> 01:21:16,760
that in there.

1746
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:18,640
Speaker 2: So it's like if I put a bunch of bullshit

1747
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:20,039
on top to make it look like an old TV,

1748
01:21:20,119 --> 01:21:21,840
it can then kind of use the HDR to get

1749
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:24,319
the brightness back and stuff like that, and like, I

1750
01:21:24,359 --> 01:21:25,119
need to go get it over.

1751
01:21:25,159 --> 01:21:27,520
Speaker 3: Have you guys been using the CRT shaders or have

1752
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:28,960
you mostly been doing the sharp.

1753
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:31,640
Speaker 5: Scaling for the shaders? Are good using a lot of.

1754
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,920
Speaker 1: Shaders, Yeah, especially playing these older games.

1755
01:21:33,960 --> 01:21:35,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can really tell, Like you know, I always

1756
01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,520
sess with Mario six four, because I just know exactly

1757
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:39,199
what that game looks like and how I remember it,

1758
01:21:39,359 --> 01:21:41,520
and like, yeah, if you just do it sharp, it's

1759
01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:43,680
sure it looks you know, you're used to seeing that

1760
01:21:43,720 --> 01:21:47,319
on like Switch online and things like that. Put on yeah,

1761
01:21:47,359 --> 01:21:49,119
and then you put on a CRT shater and just

1762
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:50,920
like the way it's like hat smooths out and stuff.

1763
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:53,399
It's like, ooh, this is what I remember. Yeah, And

1764
01:21:53,439 --> 01:21:54,039
that's even.

1765
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: When I'm just using the HDR.

1766
01:21:56,399 --> 01:21:59,239
Speaker 3: The ACR is for is so that way because when

1767
01:21:59,239 --> 01:22:01,720
you throw on those CRT shaders there's like scan lines

1768
01:22:01,760 --> 01:22:04,279
that they add and stuff like that. They simulate the

1769
01:22:04,319 --> 01:22:08,439
individual like red, green and blue like subpixels off a CRT.

1770
01:22:09,119 --> 01:22:10,840
All of that stuff add on top is get dark

1771
01:22:10,840 --> 01:22:12,880
in the image. That way, you can inject HDR to

1772
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,520
bring back up to like CRT brightness and luminants and

1773
01:22:16,600 --> 01:22:17,039
it works.

1774
01:22:17,079 --> 01:22:19,119
Speaker 2: It's really cool, especially on an o leg which is

1775
01:22:19,159 --> 01:22:20,960
why I'm like I should know that monitor and no

1776
01:22:21,119 --> 01:22:22,239
lead look another old T.

1777
01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:28,159
Speaker 1: A better time. Yep. Does the retro tink have a

1778
01:22:28,319 --> 01:22:30,680
thing in it that makes the noise that CRTs make

1779
01:22:31,119 --> 01:22:31,840
when you turn them?

1780
01:22:32,279 --> 01:22:32,399
Speaker 6: Oh?

1781
01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: I just have that all the time. Yeah.

1782
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, by the way, for what's worth, it seems like

1783
01:22:39,319 --> 01:22:42,760
mich is a cool dude. I heard that seems yeah.

1784
01:22:42,840 --> 01:22:44,800
I think GDC it was where like he was on

1785
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:47,560
a panel with like John Lenneman and m VG and

1786
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:49,640
some other people. I think Audio was on that one,

1787
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,439
and like when they introduced Mike to like talk about

1788
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,640
you know, like upscaleing stuff, and I think apparently the

1789
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,039
crowd went wild and standing something.

1790
01:22:58,079 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 1: So that's a.

1791
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:01,640
Speaker 2: Miss thing is more, it's a marvel of technology. The

1792
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:03,479
fact that we get this that anyone was like, we're

1793
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:05,359
willing to put all the work in to make this thing,

1794
01:23:05,399 --> 01:23:08,199
to basically make your old games work on a new

1795
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:10,239
TV and then look like the old stuff. I'm like, no,

1796
01:23:10,399 --> 01:23:12,920
like that's a very niche thing. And like he even

1797
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:15,319
has like this reverence for composite video that I have

1798
01:23:15,399 --> 01:23:17,880
as well. I'm like, I can't. It's a miracle that

1799
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:18,640
this thing exists.

1800
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:23,840
Speaker 1: It's awesome. Well that was a delightful game segment. I

1801
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:26,039
just got my first do you want to make an

1802
01:23:26,039 --> 01:23:29,920
appointment at SGF email? So we do have to take

1803
01:23:29,960 --> 01:23:36,119
a yea, because I take a fucking walk. I love SGF,

1804
01:23:36,159 --> 01:23:40,239
but just like not so soon I'm getting it is April.

1805
01:23:45,199 --> 01:23:47,720
Well that was games. Anybody else have anything that they

1806
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,399
want to talk about before we stop talking about video

1807
01:23:50,399 --> 01:23:51,319
games on this show.

1808
01:23:51,399 --> 01:23:53,560
Speaker 5: I feel like I could talk about blueprints for hours,

1809
01:23:53,560 --> 01:23:54,199
but I don't.

1810
01:23:54,279 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, we will do a spoiler cast at some point. Yeah,

1811
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:57,520
it's all I read.

1812
01:23:59,039 --> 01:24:02,000
Speaker 4: I just read one Pat chucklepic write a much more

1813
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,960
elegant thing about the Minecraft movie than I ever could.

1814
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,640
Speaker 1: So everybody should check that out. While you were on

1815
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:17,479
the podcast, Mike, somebody was talking no, yeah, for a while. Okay,

1816
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:25,479
we will be back in just a second with the news,

1817
01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:29,640
of which again there is none. We'll be right back.

1818
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:35,279
We didn't talk at all about show hey and how

1819
01:24:35,319 --> 01:24:37,680
he fucking sucks on the poet.

1820
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:39,560
Speaker 2: I saw people say they say they were done with

1821
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:40,039
with him.

1822
01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:48,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, do I want to know? Well, he's ex and

1823
01:24:48,520 --> 01:24:50,960
then he they went to the Dodgers, went to the

1824
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:54,520
White House, and was like, man, I love Donald Trump.

1825
01:24:55,359 --> 01:24:58,239
I love this guy. He looks he was very excited

1826
01:24:58,239 --> 01:25:00,640
to get amped.

1827
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:04,760
Speaker 3: Has someone that someone check out, Michael Hyam, Has anyone.

1828
01:25:04,520 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 1: Seen I have from that boy? Don't days?

1829
01:25:13,279 --> 01:25:15,199
Speaker 2: Did you guys see the story of where Trump was

1830
01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:17,199
like telling his friends He's like, I just wish I

1831
01:25:17,199 --> 01:25:20,800
could speak to Shenzo talking about Shinzo. Abe like that's

1832
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,000
a sentence he says a lot. Apparently, it's like I

1833
01:25:23,119 --> 01:25:24,520
just missed Shenzo. I wish I could talk to.

1834
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: That's the craziest thing that I've ever heard. You get

1835
01:25:28,439 --> 01:25:30,239
on the Guardians train with me? Come on, I got

1836
01:25:30,239 --> 01:25:31,199
my shirt on right now.

1837
01:25:31,239 --> 01:25:33,840
Speaker 4: It's great that it's the way part of me hopes

1838
01:25:33,880 --> 01:25:35,960
they don't win a World Series for a few years.

1839
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,319
Speaker 1: That's what you don't want, right because then you then

1840
01:25:40,359 --> 01:25:44,439
you get stuff like this, which is a bummer. It's fine,

1841
01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:49,479
he's winning, he feels now. Just I bet the news

1842
01:25:49,479 --> 01:25:53,359
will cheer us up. Yeah, yeah, let's hit the news.

1843
01:25:53,880 --> 01:25:55,119
Speaker 5: Totally unrelated stuff.

1844
01:25:57,319 --> 01:26:03,680
Speaker 1: There's no Japan America interaction to relations. Do you think now?

1845
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:05,960
Hold on, let me put my let me put my

1846
01:26:06,079 --> 01:26:14,479
MSNBC want cat on was show Hey Otani laughing so

1847
01:26:14,720 --> 01:26:19,720
much with Donald Trump because he said, please, I just

1848
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:24,279
want to play Donkey Kong from my home country's video

1849
01:26:24,399 --> 01:26:29,880
game company. So he was was he doing some shadow

1850
01:26:30,119 --> 01:26:33,600
Because here's the thing that is how this guy works.

1851
01:26:34,279 --> 01:26:36,399
If a guy he likes is like, I don't think

1852
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:39,239
you should do this anymore. The odds that he would

1853
01:26:39,239 --> 01:26:43,000
be like, well, okay, Nintendo doesn't count for them.

1854
01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:47,680
Speaker 2: That's true except for some reason Tariffs bitch loves Teriff

1855
01:26:48,239 --> 01:26:48,880
everything else.

1856
01:26:48,760 --> 01:26:54,760
Speaker 1: He else president President. Yeah.

1857
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,079
Speaker 2: So anyway, I switched to goud announced last week. That

1858
01:26:57,399 --> 01:26:59,880
was after the last BombCast, right.

1859
01:27:01,279 --> 01:27:03,520
Speaker 5: Normally would have been which I do want to yet

1860
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:08,800
direct people to the BombCast Revengeance yes from Yeah, that

1861
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,960
was me fresh off the trip, going deep on like everything.

1862
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,399
I played everything, I saw, all the initial announced news

1863
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and everything. So check out the revengeans if you didn't see.

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Speaker 2: If yes, if you want to hear like Dan dive

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into actually playing these games, what it's like, what the

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switch to is going to be like hypothetically in such

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a world where it comes out like he's got that

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information for you in the BombCast Revengeance from it's the

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last episode in the feed. But this happened after the

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last BombCast, So a normal episode of this would have

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been like, here's all the details about the switch too,

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and so I guess here they are.

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Speaker 1: It's June fifth, it's coming out. Question mark four hundred

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and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 2: Question more, question mark five hundred dollars with Mario with

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Mario Kart World, many more question marks, and then pre

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orders begin April ninth, Well, not anymore, that would be tomorrow.

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Nintendo delayed pre orders basically immediately the next day because

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later that day for the announcement of the directory.

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Speaker 1: Next day it was Liberation Day. Liberation Day, that's right.

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God damn it, I feel like say from a metal

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gear game.

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Speaker 2: Trump announced massive worldwide tariffs on countries including Japan, China, Vietnam, Cambodia.

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There's a country that's habited just by penguins that has

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a tariff on it. Yeah, it's just across the board,

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but especially hard hit are China obviously that one everyone

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could predict, but also Vietnam and Cambodia, which is where

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you know Nintendo. Oh, A lot of country or a

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lot of companies knew stuff like this could happen. There's

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a lot of other reasons to diversify, but tariffs were

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definitely one of them. And so they were like, we're

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going to spread out where we manufacture things, and we're

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going to go to places like Vietnam and Cambodia which

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are making things very enticing for us. And now those

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have forty six and forty tariffs on them, which is

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a it's a I guess for people who don't understand,

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if you bring a switch to into this country from

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those countries, the company that imports it has to pay

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a forty or six percent tax on the cost, So

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it adds another you know, if it's a four hundred

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dollars thing, it adds another two hundred dollars on top

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of that four hundred and fifty dollars.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4: Well, that sounds that the other country has to pay

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for that all by itself and with no other cost

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going anywhere.

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Speaker 2: Well, the other countries don't have to pay anything like

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that's the good news. The bad news is it's the

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importing company and they don't just do that. They pass

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on the cost to everybody, which is why Nintendo has

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delayed pre orders because they were going to start taking

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pre orders for one price. And really the major reason

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you would delay preorders is to figure out what you're

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gonna have to charge to make this make sense.

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Speaker 1: So this is a it's a it's.

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Speaker 2: A new sales tax. Basically, it's a tax paid for

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by in the end consumers. Effectively, it's paid for by

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the companies when it happens though, so we yeah, right now,

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you know, there's a lot of other details. We're gonna

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go through all kinds of other stuff. We're getting answers about,

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like what the switch to does it actually support DLSS?

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All that stuff is in here? Should should we start

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with like all the fun details or start Let me ask.

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Speaker 4: You a couple questions, Jeff, I'm I think you're you're smart.

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You may be No if I say one else, maybe

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the smartest one here? No, wow, Let me ask you,

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this is the switch to price going to increase?

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Speaker 1: Yes? I think so? How much? I do? How much?

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Like a little lot?

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Speaker 2: I mean, dude, like you said earlier. I also, I

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have no idea, but like if I were, then I'm glad.

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Speaker 1: I have Mario Kart. I would probably raise it by one.

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Speaker 2: Hundred dollars and I would go five fifty and six hundred,

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and then if tariffs go away, I would shimmy Mario

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Kart around and try to drop it back down by

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fifty dollars. So I end up with a five hundred

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and fifty dollars version with Mario Kart in it. If

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tariffs go away, tariffs don't go away, then you keep

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it at Yeah, five fifty six hundred.

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Speaker 1: Isn't the big fear though, which like is why this

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shit is so is destructive for a million and one reasons,

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But it gets us into an environment where nobody can

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trust the things we say anymore, which is more debilitating

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honestly than the uncertainty of the moment when it is happening,

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because this is a huge issue. It's it is unclear

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whether or not we will he will make a decision

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that is like actually just kidding, which he loves to do.

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He's like, actually just kidding. It's different now, there's nothing

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from stopping him in six months being like I actually

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did mean the thing that I said, and it changes it,

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which puts a Nintendo in a situation where they can't

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be like, well it's cheaper now, but it's going to

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be a flexible pricing, so like get in in the

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next two weeks because then it's going to be more expensive,

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and then actually after that it's going to go back

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down a price like you can't fluctuate a.

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Speaker 4: Ten point like that gets to be in this fun

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position where just the way the timing worth out, they

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get to kind of be the ones to be the

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bearer of Bend news.

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Speaker 5: But I mean it was the same day as that

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New York event where as the direct Yeah.

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Speaker 2: But but y yes, Like that's a good point though,

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Like it's not just Nintendo. Everyone's going to have to

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raise prices. Razor was canceling laptop orders that people made

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in February, like three thousand dollars laptops. They're going to

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be a lot more expensive than that.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Daniel mad On On on Blue Sky Right Now pointed

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out that, you know, okay, you know what, let's put

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in this perspective. First we have these are the initial tariffs.

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This is a trade war now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, so today, yes, it was like China today

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was like all right, bet no more American movies. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And also a tariffs on top of what they already had,

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and that's in response to these, which has now caused

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Trump to respond. And so the Trump the Trump tariffs

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on China have gone from fifty percent up to a

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one hundred and four percent now cool, So, as he

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points out here, a device that costs that would have

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been priced at five hundred dollars today will now have

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to at least be one thoe hundred dollars. So I'm

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imagining this retro tink four K I just got for

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four hundred and fifty dollars would probably have to be

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about one thousand dollars going forward to make it make

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sense to actually ship it to this country and sell

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it to us. Awesome, and there's no real way around

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this stuff. It's questions go away.

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Speaker 4: My second final question for you, I mean, is the

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switch to still going to release?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 4: What was the date supposed to be June fifth? June

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fifth in North America because they've also delayed the Canadian

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pre orders? Now, is this thing still coming out on

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that date?

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Speaker 1: Here?

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Speaker 2: I mean they so they said that it's still coming

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out that date. I I don't know. I think so,

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like they have to just maybe brute force their way

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through this. Like the reality is they're gonna have they

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want to sell it everywhere, and while the United States

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an environment does dictate a lot of how things happen globally,

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they're not going to want to punish the entire world

2004
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because the United States can't get their shit together. So

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I think that we will probably have special pricing if

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things continue to be a moving target, Like if you know, Vietnam.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll go through we'll talk about some of

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this stuff.

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Speaker 2: Now, Vietnam was like, hey, we'll get rid of all

2010
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our tariffs if you get rid of your tariffs. And uh,

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one of Trump's advisors that's been on TV said, this

2012
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is not a negotiation.

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Speaker 1: I said, well, then what the fuck is? But we

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get what are we doing? I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: But of course it's just he sees a trade deficit,

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which is what this is really about. We spend more

2017
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money buying things from Vietnam than view spend buying products

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for them from US.

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Speaker 1: Is it is like, and I said, I think I said,

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I don't remember where I said it last week, but

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it is like going into target and being mad that

2022
01:34:32,920 --> 01:34:38,319
the target is not buying clothes from your house. Yes,

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it's exactly this, exactly like talking about like and.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing Target might actually hire you for, like

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01:34:45,159 --> 01:34:48,319
consultant services. Right, we have a service based economy. Now,

2026
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:51,279
like that's that we sell services. So yeah, they don't

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buy products from us. To the trade deficit, the actual

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like trading of goods looks out of whack. But we

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we have way more money than any other country, so

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necessarily the trade deficit is going to be in their

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01:35:03,159 --> 01:35:06,560
favorite It's not a win loose scenario. It is we

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both win because I get a cool thing and you

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01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:11,279
get some money, Like that's what we want. It's that

2034
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that was the whole idea of free trade. We built

2035
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a whole world around free trade now and he doesn't

2036
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understand it, so he's running like a wrecking ball through

2037
01:35:18,479 --> 01:35:20,279
everything and making it just way worse.

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Speaker 3: The other the quote I heard on the news the

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ore day was that no, no, we don't have enough money.

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Speaker 1: All right, Oh well, no hold on, because if you

2041
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:34,279
put all the money at the top, we done, it'll

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just start in our pockets. Crazy. The other thing that

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I was I was trying to like rationalize because I

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drove from from Los Angeles to Utah and the middle,

2045
01:35:51,039 --> 01:35:54,079
the middle bit between there is a is a weird

2046
01:35:54,159 --> 01:35:57,680
slice of this great nation. He had a lot of

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01:35:57,680 --> 01:36:02,560
weird stuff. And then I kept thinking about all of

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the like the guys that have lifted their Toyota Tundras

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four and a half inches and then have also the

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biggest American flags you could ever see attached to the

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back of the truck, and I'm like, where do you

2052
01:36:17,359 --> 01:36:22,119
think your car came. You bought your car here for sure.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well this is a good point, Nikki, because trucks

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especially are an interesting one because those have had tariffs

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on it for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Right, So the.

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01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,800
Speaker 2: Argument, so the argument that a lot of people on

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01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,680
the other side would make here and the other side

2059
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:37,279
like they don't even really understand this, so it's not

2060
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really a side. But the argument that a lot of

2061
01:36:39,279 --> 01:36:41,159
people are making on TV is that this will bring

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manufacturing here. And they'll point out, hey, a lot of

2063
01:36:44,000 --> 01:36:46,640
those Toyota vehicles they do like manufacture in Alabama in

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the South. It's like, well, do you know what they

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really do, because what they do is they build two

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halves of a truck in Japan, Yes, and then they

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ship it here and someone stitches together. Yes, yes, that's

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what really happens. And they do that to get around

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to terror shipped.

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Speaker 3: One way, then shift the RWA, then ship our way again.

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Speaker 2: Yes, right, yes, there's and so they just come up

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with all these ways to get around around teriffs, and

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they build entire business models around avoiding.

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Speaker 1: These specific taxes.

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Speaker 2: You know, that's is that a reason not to do

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a tax? It's like, well, not alone, but the fact

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01:37:15,039 --> 01:37:17,039
that it's just a shitty policy across the board and

2078
01:37:17,079 --> 01:37:19,359
causes prices to go up right after we got done

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with you know, we can talk about the price of

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01:37:21,800 --> 01:37:25,119
the games. Eighty dollars from Mario Kart World. That is

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01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,239
a lot of money, but in twenty seventeen dollars, that's

2082
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a cool wint to sixty one dollars and fifty cents

2083
01:37:30,279 --> 01:37:32,199
of purchasing power. That's how much inflation has just been

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in the last eight years. So they're just keeping up

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the price that they had before and.

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Speaker 1: The wage we get to the tariffs also, yes, so

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we're all god war. It's a huge trucks. We have

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all this money. Good.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, Nikki, I was seeing my taxes yesterday and

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I was having a lot of fun. How about you.

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01:37:51,239 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of cool. It's kind of cool to

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be alive.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good time you're paying there on that one, because yeah,

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I got all this contract work now, so I don't

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01:38:04,520 --> 01:38:06,319
know what a I don't get anything back.

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Speaker 1: They're making a thrums off game though. Yeah, so okay,

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so we don't know, Mike, answer your question. The prices

2098
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:22,000
go up, probably will it actually come out on June fifth?

2099
01:38:22,720 --> 01:38:23,760
That's got it. I don't know.

2100
01:38:24,159 --> 01:38:26,039
Speaker 2: They're gonna have to answer something here very soon. So

2101
01:38:26,079 --> 01:38:28,760
the creators were supposed to begin tomorrow, and I feel

2102
01:38:28,760 --> 01:38:31,000
like tomorrow we have to get some kind of answer.

2103
01:38:31,039 --> 01:38:33,600
But they just might not know what to do or

2104
01:38:33,680 --> 01:38:35,720
say at this point. That's how uncertain you think.

2105
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 4: I wonder if they even have a plan right now,

2106
01:38:37,479 --> 01:38:40,520
if they still are kind of like stalling like.

2107
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:43,199
Speaker 1: I would, I would think they know what their conversations are.

2108
01:38:43,239 --> 01:38:45,520
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, I mean, part of it is definitely stalling,

2109
01:38:45,520 --> 01:38:48,560
but they're like, you know, the president of Nintendo almost

2110
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:52,359
certainly is talking to like the actual president of Vietnam

2111
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:55,239
right like, hey, can we like then go to the

2112
01:38:55,319 --> 01:38:58,159
United States and like present something to them? Like that's

2113
01:38:58,199 --> 01:39:00,800
what's happening right now. That's the level of conversation we're talking.

2114
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:03,399
Speaker 4: It's a really hard position for Nintendo right now. I'm

2115
01:39:03,439 --> 01:39:05,359
trying to say, like, you know, have sympathy for a

2116
01:39:05,399 --> 01:39:07,840
corporations because they have done some things with the pricing

2117
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:10,840
and switch shoes stuff that is absolutely ridiculous and greedy,

2118
01:39:11,039 --> 01:39:15,039
especially the ten dollars for that stupid demo thing, you know,

2119
01:39:15,319 --> 01:39:16,880
stuff like that, but.

2120
01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:18,520
Speaker 2: It never just kind of their game, right something they

2121
01:39:18,560 --> 01:39:20,000
only started this lession, right, but they.

2122
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:22,760
Speaker 4: Can't lose a lot of money selling switch shoes. And

2123
01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:27,319
yet they also can't not sell switch toos, right because

2124
01:39:27,319 --> 01:39:31,880
then you can't sell the video games. So like, what

2125
01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:34,000
what do they do there? They have to sol them

2126
01:39:34,000 --> 01:39:36,880
a like kind of a loss. Is it still a

2127
01:39:36,920 --> 01:39:39,439
lot of money at that point because of the tariffs?

2128
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:41,560
They could sell us like for a loss and it

2129
01:39:41,600 --> 01:39:44,039
would still cost like five hundred and fifty dollars or

2130
01:39:44,079 --> 01:39:45,119
something like that.

2131
01:39:45,239 --> 01:39:46,520
Speaker 1: Is the world?

2132
01:39:46,760 --> 01:39:51,760
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, Sean, Oh just real quick on topic four fifty,

2133
01:39:52,399 --> 01:39:56,000
the profit margins were not huge on that price because

2134
01:39:56,319 --> 01:39:58,560
now there's so many things that you have to factor in,

2135
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,199
think about the power of the de and everything, like

2136
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:04,000
four fifty, I know, it seems like a lot. It's

2137
01:40:04,600 --> 01:40:06,319
not that much more of that Steam Deck. I know

2138
01:40:06,319 --> 01:40:08,920
the Steam Deck is you know, older device at this point,

2139
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,159
and it's a different kind of device. But switch to

2140
01:40:11,239 --> 01:40:13,119
U is better in a lot of ways, So think

2141
01:40:13,159 --> 01:40:14,880
about the power level there. I think it was the

2142
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,600
Verge put together a hypothetical parts list that came out

2143
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:20,439
to the Wai like three fifty fifty is just how

2144
01:40:20,479 --> 01:40:23,279
much they're charging in Japan, right, But that's also not

2145
01:40:23,319 --> 01:40:24,840
how much it would cost them to just put it

2146
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,399
on a shelf. You have to think about all the

2147
01:40:26,399 --> 01:40:27,880
other factors.

2148
01:40:27,039 --> 01:40:30,159
Speaker 1: That bring it somewhere about it exactly.

2149
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:32,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, And but you also have to build in all

2150
01:40:32,359 --> 01:40:35,680
the risk mitigation as well, like the currency could like

2151
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:37,640
that's one of the main reasons that the pricing is

2152
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:39,800
weird between Japan and the rest of the world, Like

2153
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:42,720
the again is very weak and has been, but that

2154
01:40:42,760 --> 01:40:45,159
could change. They've seen that change a lot during a

2155
01:40:45,199 --> 01:40:47,960
console generation, so they price it be like loost, we

2156
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,760
could sell that thing for three hundred and fifty dollars

2157
01:40:49,760 --> 01:40:52,520
and that's worth any in right now, but they are

2158
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,439
expecting that to be shaky going forward, especially in the

2159
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,039
right too, because the dollar is dropping right now. So

2160
01:40:58,439 --> 01:40:59,760
they could have set up for one price and it

2161
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:01,880
immediately would have been like we have to do an

2162
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,239
entire generation. Never really been able to raise the price,

2163
01:41:04,279 --> 01:41:06,319
So they are building in a lot of risk mitigation

2164
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:08,359
and like you would with anything that you were doing

2165
01:41:08,399 --> 01:41:09,159
with your own money.

2166
01:41:09,359 --> 01:41:14,359
Speaker 1: So that Yeah, God, the Wei was two fifty at

2167
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:17,159
launch in two thousand and six, and if you do

2168
01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:21,479
the inflation calculator, that's four hundred dollars. So then if

2169
01:41:21,520 --> 01:41:24,640
you the extra fifty dollars, because that was just two

2170
01:41:24,720 --> 01:41:28,560
GameCubes put together, right that like that math makes sense,

2171
01:41:29,000 --> 01:41:30,560
just like the amount.

2172
01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:34,079
Speaker 4: Of exactly, yes, you could have done a Wei factory here.

2173
01:41:34,079 --> 01:41:38,720
Speaker 1: We could have got away with that. Just we'll just

2174
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:42,920
make the Wii in Ohio. Do you think that isn't

2175
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:46,439
three months? We did a couple of months to make

2176
01:41:46,439 --> 01:41:49,920
the Nintendo We we isn't that fucking crazy? We don't

2177
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:52,199
even have the capability in this country to make a

2178
01:41:52,279 --> 01:41:55,039
Nintendo whe let alone an Nintendo switch to.

2179
01:41:55,479 --> 01:42:00,119
Speaker 2: So it's like, yeah, like we like there are our

2180
01:42:00,199 --> 01:42:02,840
chips would make here, Like Texas Instruments still makes like

2181
01:42:03,199 --> 01:42:15,079
t I eighty four chips here, Donkey video. You could

2182
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:17,079
make a lot of the of the switch to here,

2183
01:42:17,119 --> 01:42:19,960
just not the expensive part, Like that's the reality the

2184
01:42:20,000 --> 01:42:22,319
screen and the chips would be way that would take

2185
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,000
years to get that off the ground. You could in

2186
01:42:24,319 --> 01:42:26,920
two years you could start making the plastic.

2187
01:42:26,760 --> 01:42:31,039
Speaker 1: Class I guess yeah. The thing that I'm kind of

2188
01:42:32,079 --> 01:42:34,560
holding out hope is I don't think the verbiage I

2189
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:37,520
want to use. There are already a bunch of switch

2190
01:42:37,600 --> 01:42:41,239
twes here. Yes, So that's where they could get a

2191
01:42:41,279 --> 01:42:41,920
little creative.

2192
01:42:41,960 --> 01:42:44,760
Speaker 2: But they but they would probably treat that, Yeah, they

2193
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:46,359
would treat that as like another thing where they can

2194
01:42:46,399 --> 01:42:49,479
buffer themselves against risk and be like, let's.

2195
01:42:49,239 --> 01:42:52,399
Speaker 1: Make some profit on these at that higher price. And

2196
01:42:52,439 --> 01:42:53,880
then if we have like.

2197
01:42:54,279 --> 01:42:56,319
Speaker 2: It's going to be difficult for them to navigate because

2198
01:42:56,359 --> 01:42:58,319
even if the tariffs go away, there's no guarantee that

2199
01:42:58,319 --> 01:43:01,199
they stay away. So if they if that happens, they

2200
01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:02,880
can't immediately be like, and the price is back down

2201
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:05,600
to what we said before, because they could come back

2202
01:43:05,640 --> 01:43:06,680
and then they have to raise it again.

2203
01:43:06,720 --> 01:43:07,600
Speaker 1: I suppose they maybe.

2204
01:43:07,479 --> 01:43:10,319
Speaker 2: Could try to tie it explicitly to the teriff, right

2205
01:43:10,399 --> 01:43:12,399
and say it's gonna be the price is gonna be

2206
01:43:12,439 --> 01:43:14,920
a moving target going forward for the United States and

2207
01:43:15,039 --> 01:43:15,760
just the United States.

2208
01:43:15,800 --> 01:43:19,119
Speaker 1: That's just so confusing, though, because I feel like you

2209
01:43:19,159 --> 01:43:21,920
can't go you can't tell someone go to the best Buy,

2210
01:43:22,000 --> 01:43:25,119
and you actually have to google something else to determine

2211
01:43:25,119 --> 01:43:26,560
how much this thing's gonna cost.

2212
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:29,159
Speaker 4: Here's the the aspect of it I find interesting is

2213
01:43:29,159 --> 01:43:31,880
because like Nintendo could come out and they could very

2214
01:43:31,920 --> 01:43:35,039
directly try to blame this on the teriff. They can

2215
01:43:35,039 --> 01:43:38,800
evoke the name of Trump, and like I've seen how

2216
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:42,239
that sort of thing has worked out for another company,

2217
01:43:42,279 --> 01:43:44,760
like a lot Disney, right, where like Disney suddenly became

2218
01:43:45,359 --> 01:43:48,720
an enemy and a target of the Republican Party in

2219
01:43:48,800 --> 01:43:53,119
this weird way that like actually did impact it in

2220
01:43:53,199 --> 01:43:58,119
terms of like you know, politics and laws and finances

2221
01:43:58,159 --> 01:44:01,319
and all of this stuff. And I and Entitled probably

2222
01:44:01,319 --> 01:44:05,239
doesn't want to do that either. So it's it's.

2223
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: Just weird and strange. It's kind of scary all around. Yeah,

2224
01:44:09,199 --> 01:44:13,199
especially it seems like Nintendo has Disney aspirations with the

2225
01:44:13,199 --> 01:44:17,119
their bread right, and it is too early in their

2226
01:44:18,439 --> 01:44:21,479
quest to do that to be as loud, I think,

2227
01:44:21,560 --> 01:44:25,880
as too early. It's a multi billion dollar company, gang,

2228
01:44:25,920 --> 01:44:27,960
So it's like it's not like they don't they're powerless

2229
01:44:27,960 --> 01:44:33,760
in this situation, but it is. It's it's a it's

2230
01:44:33,760 --> 01:44:36,079
a bad situation to be in, and the thing is

2231
01:44:37,039 --> 01:44:38,680
no way to prevent it either.

2232
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,159
Speaker 2: Well, here's the thing we could do is so I'm

2233
01:44:41,159 --> 01:44:43,039
pretty close to Canada, I'll just go up there and

2234
01:44:43,039 --> 01:44:44,600
I'll pre order my switch too up there.

2235
01:44:46,319 --> 01:44:46,960
Speaker 1: I just got.

2236
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:51,560
Speaker 2: I was gonna go to Right Winds, and.

2237
01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,800
Speaker 1: They canceled, they delayed the pre order dates in Canada. Also,

2238
01:44:57,600 --> 01:45:01,399
yeah are bad? Yeah, are bad everybody. We're ruining it

2239
01:45:01,479 --> 01:45:03,119
for the entire world and.

2240
01:45:03,079 --> 01:45:07,920
Speaker 2: Especially our closest neighbors. That's our move, Okay. I the

2241
01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:09,680
real answer to all these questions is we don't know,

2242
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,520
So let's talk about some stuff we do know.

2243
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:13,640
Speaker 1: I guess the switch to.

2244
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:17,960
Speaker 2: S horsepower makes developers extremely happy. Dan, you did you

2245
01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:19,600
did see you have to go over everything, but just

2246
01:45:19,640 --> 01:45:22,119
to your like first take, you were like, hey, these

2247
01:45:22,159 --> 01:45:25,560
games look next Gin, you know, relatively speaking, what would

2248
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:26,720
you think of like the visuals.

2249
01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:28,680
Speaker 5: I mean, the thing is the like Nintendo art style

2250
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:31,840
always looked incredible ever since the HD with you. But

2251
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:34,640
I think you were like, Mario Kart still looks like

2252
01:45:34,680 --> 01:45:37,399
Mario Kart. It's not like this generational jump where it's

2253
01:45:37,439 --> 01:45:39,680
just like, oh my god, the Mario looks incredible now, No,

2254
01:45:39,720 --> 01:45:42,199
he looks like Mario. Where you see the differences is

2255
01:45:42,279 --> 01:45:44,319
things like you know, the twenty four racers on screen,

2256
01:45:44,439 --> 01:45:46,359
and like I talked about how the first time I

2257
01:45:46,359 --> 01:45:48,000
threw a blue shell and I was like, oh shit,

2258
01:45:48,039 --> 01:45:50,119
there's a whole cluster of like it knocked out, like

2259
01:45:50,239 --> 01:45:52,640
six cards going flying everywhere, like stuff like that. Where

2260
01:45:52,680 --> 01:45:54,800
it's like, okay, this is this is great, and things

2261
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,720
like Donkey Kong where you're you know, destroying the entire

2262
01:45:57,960 --> 01:46:00,880
area and then you know that's being rough in the map,

2263
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:02,600
and it's like, okay, there are things here that I

2264
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:04,720
don't know if the Switch one would be able to

2265
01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:07,039
do as well. I ever hears of the Kingdom Breath

2266
01:46:07,079 --> 01:46:10,279
the Wild running, you know, demonstrably better on the switch too.

2267
01:46:10,479 --> 01:46:13,159
So yeah, it looks fantastic. It's definitely like I think,

2268
01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:15,720
across the board, you don't see the generational leaps we

2269
01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,399
saw from like PS one to PS two anymore, but

2270
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:22,239
undeniably it looks much much better. Metroid, for instance, looks

2271
01:46:22,520 --> 01:46:23,960
so fucking good on the Switch two.

2272
01:46:24,079 --> 01:46:24,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2273
01:46:24,319 --> 01:46:26,399
Speaker 4: I was just so happy looking at the things, like,

2274
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:28,159
oh yeah, this is what I want, especially, you know,

2275
01:46:28,760 --> 01:46:31,199
the big thing I wanted was smoother frame rates and

2276
01:46:31,279 --> 01:46:34,119
something Switched one struggled with a lot, and everything here

2277
01:46:34,199 --> 01:46:37,680
looks really smooth, really vibrant, And I hated the rail

2278
01:46:37,720 --> 01:46:39,840
for a second. But I just got a headline in

2279
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,359
my emails. Can I read you guys's breaking news at lease?

2280
01:46:42,520 --> 01:46:47,399
Speaker 1: Please Paramount Pictures to release The Angry Birds Movie three

2281
01:46:48,119 --> 01:46:52,960
in theaters wide on January twenty ninth, twenty twenty seven. Oh,

2282
01:46:53,239 --> 01:46:56,920
just a little bit before the Legend of Soda movie.

2283
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,560
My kids watch that. Then they liked it.

2284
01:47:00,319 --> 01:47:05,439
Speaker 4: Liked like a movie made for children, you know what.

2285
01:47:10,319 --> 01:47:12,520
Speaker 1: I thought?

2286
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:15,199
Speaker 2: It was like I liked what was the other bad

2287
01:47:15,239 --> 01:47:17,239
Disney movie that came out recently?

2288
01:47:18,399 --> 01:47:22,239
Speaker 1: I liked Wish Better? Oh no, I like, I'm with

2289
01:47:22,279 --> 01:47:24,640
the I'm with the kids. I also didn't think t

2290
01:47:24,840 --> 01:47:27,359
was very good, but then I did have I did

2291
01:47:27,399 --> 01:47:30,079
wake up. This is not a joke. I woke up

2292
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:32,279
sad the other day because I was like, was I

2293
01:47:32,319 --> 01:47:37,119
too hard on that flip? And then I thought about

2294
01:47:37,119 --> 01:47:39,880
it somewhere. I was like, no, it's just not very good. No,

2295
01:47:41,680 --> 01:47:43,840
I thought we didn't. I thought Angry Birds was cooked.

2296
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:44,960
I thought that was done.

2297
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,319
Speaker 2: I think it's like one of those things where it's like,

2298
01:47:47,359 --> 01:47:49,359
actually the movie still makes money, so we'll just keep

2299
01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:50,359
doing those instead.

2300
01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 1: So yeah, switch right.

2301
01:47:52,039 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to be excited about the switch

2302
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:55,720
to because, like, I think the games look great. It

2303
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,760
looks very pretty. I was I was fine with that

2304
01:47:57,800 --> 01:48:00,159
fourge fifty dollars price tag, honestly.

2305
01:48:01,279 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, and it does sound like developers

2306
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,479
like it. So really the story here is cievdevs have

2307
01:48:09,560 --> 01:48:11,720
said they're really happy working with this thing, like it's

2308
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:13,600
it's very easy to work with, which is I think

2309
01:48:14,239 --> 01:48:16,840
when we get follow up devices for successful consoles, there's

2310
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,239
a lot of pitfalls that companies traditionally fall into. Getting

2311
01:48:20,399 --> 01:48:23,159
aggressive with the pricing definitely one thing, and I think

2312
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:25,039
what we can say Nintendo guilty of that to a

2313
01:48:25,039 --> 01:48:28,119
certain extent here. And then the other thing is often hey,

2314
01:48:28,159 --> 01:48:31,399
making your hardware byzantine and weird, And it sounds like

2315
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:33,800
they avoided that one at least, so they were listening

2316
01:48:33,880 --> 01:48:36,159
to developers and I think gave them the amount of

2317
01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:37,000
RAM that they need.

2318
01:48:37,079 --> 01:48:39,439
Speaker 1: But it sounds like the tools are also easy to

2319
01:48:39,479 --> 01:48:42,000
work with. We'll probably find out more about that soon.

2320
01:48:42,279 --> 01:48:44,279
Speaker 2: We also got to support that switch to does in

2321
01:48:44,319 --> 01:48:47,760
fact support DLSS, something that we could assume was going

2322
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:49,880
to be the case, but they basically said, and this

2323
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:52,920
was from Nvidia themselves, the new RT cores will be

2324
01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:55,439
will bring real time ray tracing to the system that

2325
01:48:55,479 --> 01:48:58,439
one's okay, really on the switch to, but they're saying so,

2326
01:48:58,439 --> 01:49:00,800
so it's going to deliver life like life reflections and

2327
01:49:00,840 --> 01:49:03,880
shadows for more immersive worlds and then the tensor corese

2328
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:08,159
power AI driven features like deep learning, super sampling, boosting

2329
01:49:08,199 --> 01:49:13,399
resolution for sharper details, and sacrificing without sacrificing image quality.

2330
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:14,039
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2331
01:49:14,079 --> 01:49:16,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've had any games come out

2332
01:49:16,399 --> 01:49:19,000
and confirm, hey, this one has to DLSS, but I

2333
01:49:19,039 --> 01:49:22,279
wouldn't be surprised if it's just like something that's just happening,

2334
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:24,600
Like it's just part of getting a game working.

2335
01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:27,279
Speaker 3: Probably, just like all the third party stuff that you

2336
01:49:27,319 --> 01:49:30,680
know is on PC has a good PC version, they'll

2337
01:49:30,720 --> 01:49:33,800
just also use DLSS on the switch too, because presumably

2338
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,439
it would be the same muscle. And with the RAG tracing,

2339
01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:41,439
don't think like ray trace reflections and like super fancy

2340
01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:46,239
stuff like that. I think more like ray trays global

2341
01:49:46,279 --> 01:49:49,640
illumination RTGI. That's the kind of thing where you might

2342
01:49:49,680 --> 01:49:52,840
remember people talking about the PC version of like Indiana

2343
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:59,000
Jones and Assassin's Creed Shadows needed a Nvidio two thousand

2344
01:49:59,000 --> 01:50:01,800
series graphics card in or to run that. That's what's

2345
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:04,520
going on there, is that like they're moving to the

2346
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:08,760
base level of ray tracing as being the lighting model

2347
01:50:08,880 --> 01:50:10,920
period for the game, and so you just need like

2348
01:50:11,079 --> 01:50:13,159
base level support in order for those games to run

2349
01:50:13,199 --> 01:50:14,800
on a system. That's the kind of we're gonna be

2350
01:50:14,840 --> 01:50:15,279
looking at here.

2351
01:50:15,680 --> 01:50:18,680
Speaker 4: What if it's a type Actually it's Roy Tracing, and

2352
01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,520
it just means that that one Mario Car.

2353
01:50:22,880 --> 01:50:23,359
Speaker 1: Special.

2354
01:50:25,159 --> 01:50:27,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Mario paint feature.

2355
01:50:28,319 --> 01:50:30,520
Speaker 1: I like that.

2356
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:33,439
Speaker 5: That should be Mariot, that should be a Jamboree mini game.

2357
01:50:33,479 --> 01:50:38,319
Speaker 1: Is way too proud of that one by himself. Yeah,

2358
01:50:38,720 --> 01:50:40,439
I think I just killed Sean inside.

2359
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:44,760
Speaker 3: I was expecting a moment sounds there and then yes,

2360
01:50:44,800 --> 01:50:46,159
and I was very disappointed.

2361
01:50:46,239 --> 01:50:52,199
Speaker 5: Everyone hes out his own joke.

2362
01:50:52,239 --> 01:51:01,399
Speaker 1: We all just uh many others always boys for sure,

2363
01:51:02,720 --> 01:51:03,079
all right.

2364
01:51:03,159 --> 01:51:09,479
Speaker 2: Nintendo confirms switch to joy Cons won't feature Hall Effect sticks.

2365
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:10,000
Speaker 1: They can't.

2366
01:51:10,119 --> 01:51:12,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got my hopes up though, I really did.

2367
01:51:12,199 --> 01:51:13,399
I'm like, they don't want to get they don't want

2368
01:51:13,399 --> 01:51:15,399
to get super making bad ones. I'm like, oh, they'll

2369
01:51:15,479 --> 01:51:19,680
just make it more like sustable this time.

2370
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:23,760
Speaker 1: It's just it's so much the number of people who

2371
01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:26,359
are going to do a class action lawsuit is so

2372
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,479
much lower than the number that they'll make off of

2373
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:30,680
selling you more joy conep so like.

2374
01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:39,000
Speaker 3: Taking you know, like, yeah, of course it's the cheapest

2375
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,239
thing they can do. You're just gonna buy new joy Cons.

2376
01:51:41,279 --> 01:51:43,920
That sucks. That's them, that's what yep.

2377
01:51:44,079 --> 01:51:47,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also if you want them to be hal effect,

2378
01:51:47,359 --> 01:51:51,039
I'm sure six Well no, never mind, I was gonna say,

2379
01:51:51,039 --> 01:51:52,840
you can probably just buy them later. You're not going

2380
01:51:52,920 --> 01:51:53,560
to be able to.

2381
01:51:54,319 --> 01:51:58,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, maybe for like four hundred dollars switch to

2382
01:51:58,279 --> 01:52:02,800
won't have achievements, Nintendo confirms. Funny just because how they

2383
01:52:02,800 --> 01:52:05,359
were asking Bill Trennon, who what is this title now?

2384
01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:08,880
Vice President of Player and Product Experience. He was asked

2385
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,479
about this, that would be his job. He just said, nope, nope.

2386
01:52:14,079 --> 01:52:17,600
Speaker 4: That has to be a long argument in Nintendo of

2387
01:52:17,680 --> 01:52:21,760
some people who want it, but ultimately somebody the tops like, nah, yeah,

2388
01:52:21,760 --> 01:52:22,159
I think.

2389
01:52:22,039 --> 01:52:24,560
Speaker 3: So case by case basis though Zelda's got.

2390
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:28,279
Speaker 2: Them in the games themselves right there. This was definitely

2391
01:52:28,279 --> 01:52:29,680
asked about system level, but you're.

2392
01:52:29,560 --> 01:52:32,000
Speaker 3: Right, I know people really like thatied system.

2393
01:52:32,079 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 1: I know. M yeah, what's no hold on? What's the

2394
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:40,279
Mario Kart achievement that you wish you could get? Roy Tracing?

2395
01:52:46,640 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 2: So no shop music, shop music, Yeah, there's they're not

2396
01:52:51,439 --> 01:52:53,119
gonna have U shop music, and they're like it's likely

2397
01:52:53,239 --> 01:52:55,640
never to return, and it's for the reason that I

2398
01:52:55,640 --> 01:52:57,680
think you would guess. They just want to focus on

2399
01:52:57,720 --> 01:53:00,199
the performance of the shop. And then they also had

2400
01:53:01,319 --> 01:53:04,199
so many games have videos and trailers built into their

2401
01:53:04,199 --> 01:53:06,039
store page. Now they don't want to have to stop

2402
01:53:06,039 --> 01:53:07,680
the music so you could start that up. They just

2403
01:53:07,680 --> 01:53:08,600
thought that would be weird.

2404
01:53:09,119 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 4: But there's a spirit to the question that isn't just

2405
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:14,239
about music. It's about making this stuff kind of fun

2406
01:53:14,279 --> 01:53:18,079
and aesthetically interesting. Even if you can't do yeah, you

2407
01:53:18,119 --> 01:53:19,800
can mute the music you sick of.

2408
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,119
Speaker 1: Real issue.

2409
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,760
Speaker 2: Yep, it's nuts, but I don't think it's ever coming back,

2410
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:31,119
and it's for Nintendo reasons.

2411
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:31,439
Speaker 1: At this point.

2412
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,199
Speaker 2: Let's see Nintendo says it will continue so to support

2413
01:53:35,239 --> 01:53:37,600
Switch one because they got to sell you video games

2414
01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:38,880
on something and I'm gonna be able to sell a

2415
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:41,239
switch to They also think we want to keep players

2416
01:53:41,279 --> 01:53:43,920
engaged and we like had that Switch one direct that

2417
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:45,760
has games coming out in twenty twenty six, it was

2418
01:53:45,880 --> 01:53:47,119
very clear that they were going to do that, and

2419
01:53:47,159 --> 01:53:49,760
with backward compatibility, it won't be like a three DS

2420
01:53:49,840 --> 01:53:51,560
situation where the three DS got left behind.

2421
01:53:51,600 --> 01:53:53,520
Speaker 5: Well, it kind of rinds me like remember when DS

2422
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:55,720
came out and they were like, oh okay, boys not

2423
01:53:55,760 --> 01:54:00,600
dead pretty much top with the game after that.

2424
01:54:00,680 --> 01:54:03,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're so way on that new game Boy.

2425
01:54:04,239 --> 01:54:06,399
We thought we were gonna gonna get there.

2426
01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:10,720
Speaker 2: Hades two will be a Nintendo Switch to exclusive. Oh wait, no,

2427
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:14,840
updated Switch one and to exclusive on console. Obviously it's

2428
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:18,159
already on Steam, but they did a Nintendo creator's voice

2429
01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:22,239
video because again they love Hades and Nintendo huge fans

2430
01:54:22,239 --> 01:54:24,439
of that game. Clearly they want to like they want

2431
01:54:24,439 --> 01:54:27,359
to push it. So Hades two confirmed when it launches,

2432
01:54:27,399 --> 01:54:29,239
it's gonna do the thing that Hades one did. It

2433
01:54:29,279 --> 01:54:32,359
will launch in one point zero on Nintendo Switch first

2434
01:54:32,439 --> 01:54:35,560
and then come to other consoles. So the first one

2435
01:54:35,840 --> 01:54:38,680
did that right, Yeah, exactly, it did exactly that, and

2436
01:54:38,760 --> 01:54:42,800
it sold a ton on Switch that it looked.

2437
01:54:43,399 --> 01:54:44,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, I bet it did.

2438
01:54:44,279 --> 01:54:47,479
Speaker 4: It's a video paying for this time exclusive. You think

2439
01:54:47,479 --> 01:54:49,319
the Haities sep were just like happy to do it.

2440
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:50,039
Speaker 1: Nope.

2441
01:54:50,039 --> 01:54:52,520
Speaker 2: I don't think Nintendo does that for one thing, and

2442
01:54:52,600 --> 01:54:55,079
I think the Hades people are happy to do it because,

2443
01:54:55,199 --> 01:54:57,479
for one, it worked out so well last time, and

2444
01:54:57,560 --> 01:54:59,479
now because it did work out so well that Nintendo

2445
01:54:59,520 --> 01:55:01,720
fell in love this company in this game, and it

2446
01:55:01,840 --> 01:55:04,720
will just give them like a big spotlight in directs

2447
01:55:04,760 --> 01:55:06,600
and things like that, so they can kind of.

2448
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:08,199
Speaker 1: Trade that because that's worth a lot of them.

2449
01:55:10,239 --> 01:55:12,760
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, it's sort of a like you know, obviously

2450
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:14,600
business thing there, but like sort of a friendship thing

2451
01:55:14,600 --> 01:55:16,399
of like, oh, yeah, you're supporting us a lot, so yeah,

2452
01:55:16,399 --> 01:55:18,279
well you know, we'll help you out with some stuff

2453
01:55:18,319 --> 01:55:20,520
and everything like that. Like, yeah, that's probably what's going on.

2454
01:55:21,479 --> 01:55:24,119
Speaker 2: Actually, they saved sports Story and made it better and

2455
01:55:24,199 --> 01:55:26,039
had it ready for the switch To launch that would

2456
01:55:26,560 --> 01:55:31,000
move there. Yeah, visitors discover that switch To has already

2457
01:55:31,039 --> 01:55:33,479
been added to the Nintendo Museum, so your experience is

2458
01:55:33,479 --> 01:55:33,920
out of date.

2459
01:55:34,000 --> 01:55:38,279
Speaker 1: Dana, we go back. Dane and I are going back

2460
01:55:40,119 --> 01:55:43,000
get some switch Tos while you're there. Yeah, for real

2461
01:55:43,199 --> 01:55:45,880
smuggling for us. Uh.

2462
01:55:45,920 --> 01:55:48,359
Speaker 2: And then Nintendo is actively assessing what the trade war

2463
01:55:48,439 --> 01:55:50,560
means for switch To. That's the last thing that they say.

2464
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:50,840
Speaker 1: Same.

2465
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:54,279
Speaker 4: It's been fun watching like some people I have interviewed

2466
01:55:54,319 --> 01:55:57,079
Trinan and other people like just asking about the price

2467
01:55:57,119 --> 01:55:59,199
and they kind of have to like even like not

2468
01:55:59,279 --> 01:56:02,760
just a console, like hey, why is Mario Kart eighty dollars,

2469
01:56:02,840 --> 01:56:06,199
and you know, they bring up variable pricing and stuff,

2470
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:07,520
but you know, it is funny when it's like trying

2471
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:09,800
to be like, well, because the game's so good, it's like, well,

2472
01:56:10,199 --> 01:56:12,399
if you make yeah, if you make a game that

2473
01:56:12,439 --> 01:56:14,079
you think is better than Marvel, does that mean that

2474
01:56:14,119 --> 01:56:15,479
could cost ninety dollars?

2475
01:56:15,600 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 1: What does that mean? And they don't.

2476
01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,079
Speaker 4: They don't really have a good excuse for that tech

2477
01:56:20,119 --> 01:56:21,319
demo being ten bucks, like.

2478
01:56:21,239 --> 01:56:24,439
Speaker 1: Well, it's it's more than you think. I'm like, yeah,

2479
01:56:24,479 --> 01:56:24,960
it's weird.

2480
01:56:25,239 --> 01:56:27,279
Speaker 2: And then they said like ten dollars is not a

2481
01:56:27,279 --> 01:56:28,720
lot of money. I'm like, well, that doesn't look like

2482
01:56:28,720 --> 01:56:31,239
a lot of game either. So I don't know what

2483
01:56:31,239 --> 01:56:33,520
you want from me, but yeah, this is you know,

2484
01:56:33,800 --> 01:56:38,520
Bill Trennan, Doug Bowser, they're the marketing guys. They represent

2485
01:56:38,560 --> 01:56:41,039
the marketing side of Nintendo, and so when you get

2486
01:56:41,079 --> 01:56:43,760
answers from them, they have to position things so carefully

2487
01:56:44,199 --> 01:56:46,079
and they have to like of like, and especially when

2488
01:56:46,079 --> 01:56:49,159
they are asked about the price in tariffs, Bouser's gonna

2489
01:56:49,159 --> 01:56:51,800
have to say, listen, everything we've done so far was

2490
01:56:51,840 --> 01:56:54,279
perfect and on a saleable going forward, who knows what's

2491
01:56:54,319 --> 01:56:56,039
going to happen, but it will be because other things

2492
01:56:56,039 --> 01:56:59,399
have changed, not because previously or didn't account for something.

2493
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:04,359
So yeah, we'll see. I hope we get news from

2494
01:57:04,399 --> 01:57:06,760
Nintendo tomorrow. But if I'm them, I don't feel like

2495
01:57:06,800 --> 01:57:08,840
things have like settled down enough that I could give

2496
01:57:08,880 --> 01:57:10,039
people a solid answer and.

2497
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:12,000
Speaker 1: Feel good about it. So they really will have to.

2498
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:15,880
Speaker 2: Come up with some plan to be agile going forward

2499
01:57:15,920 --> 01:57:17,399
with this, and I just don't know what that could

2500
01:57:17,439 --> 01:57:17,800
look like.

2501
01:57:18,039 --> 01:57:20,319
Speaker 1: You should just walk into the Best Buy and there's

2502
01:57:20,319 --> 01:57:25,920
a big wheel, and you spin the wheel and that's

2503
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:27,479
how much you have to pay for the switch to

2504
01:57:28,399 --> 01:57:32,039
It's like a bunch of different random numbers.

2505
01:57:31,119 --> 01:57:34,880
Speaker 2: Everybody, what would it average out to? Like six hundred?

2506
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:37,159
They still get that amount of money, but there's a

2507
01:57:37,239 --> 01:57:38,840
chance you only have to pay like two fifty.

2508
01:57:39,000 --> 01:57:39,239
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2509
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:42,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, can then record be tied to the wheel like

2510
01:57:42,359 --> 01:57:44,840
a medieval device and taunting me the entire time?

2511
01:57:47,800 --> 01:57:49,439
Speaker 1: That's yeah, I like that.

2512
01:57:49,399 --> 01:57:51,359
Speaker 2: He's taunting you, even though he's the one strapped to

2513
01:57:51,359 --> 01:57:54,840
the wheel, like still would be taunting people exactly.

2514
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,239
Speaker 1: He's like, Oh, you're gonna be paid twelve hundred four.

2515
01:57:57,359 --> 01:58:00,479
I could see it. Yeah, I've used my foot to

2516
01:58:00,479 --> 01:58:01,600
cover the one dollar.

2517
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:06,720
Speaker 2: All right, more related Nintendo news, but not switched to

2518
01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:13,800
necessarily unreleased Nintendo games allegedly leak online, including Retro Studios prototype.

2519
01:58:13,279 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 1: And I can't even read this. What's to say? Ridecer Racer?

2520
01:58:27,439 --> 01:58:29,760
Remember that one that was good? I think that was

2521
01:58:29,840 --> 01:58:30,640
that was fantastic?

2522
01:58:31,239 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 2: Yes, including Nintendo Switch Ridge Racer title, Lego Civilization, and

2523
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:39,199
an unannounced Retro Studios play called Harmony.

2524
01:58:38,960 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: Like SIV SIV but Lego. Yes, I think so. It's

2525
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:47,960
a really good idea. Yeah, I love that.

2526
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:49,520
Speaker 4: Do you think it would go back to being uh

2527
01:58:50,159 --> 01:58:53,720
like the Squares because it's Lego and not the Hexagons.

2528
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:55,560
Speaker 1: I think it should that would to do that.

2529
01:58:56,880 --> 01:58:58,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so they found a bunch of stuff here

2530
01:58:58,760 --> 01:59:00,720
this uh, most of these games aren't gonna come.

2531
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:02,439
Speaker 4: Out though, so yeah, that's At first when I saw so,

2532
01:59:02,479 --> 01:59:04,960
I was really excited, like, oh crap, they're making a

2533
01:59:05,039 --> 01:59:08,359
ridge racer switch WinGen. Was this from what twenty seventeen?

2534
01:59:09,159 --> 01:59:12,680
Oh no, this game made. Looking at the video, it's

2535
01:59:12,720 --> 01:59:15,880
it's very early. It looks to me like it was

2536
01:59:15,920 --> 01:59:19,199
clearly a successor to those PSP Ridge Racer games that

2537
01:59:19,279 --> 01:59:21,840
were basically a best of but with the boost system

2538
01:59:21,920 --> 01:59:22,880
that we had starting in.

2539
01:59:23,199 --> 01:59:25,159
Speaker 2: Made an unreal five, so it seemed like they were

2540
01:59:25,239 --> 01:59:26,439
kind of uprising all that stuff.

2541
01:59:26,479 --> 01:59:30,439
Speaker 4: So, you know, Lego good enough. I would have liked that. Gosh,

2542
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:33,119
I don't know, like we're getting this Arcade Archives thing.

2543
01:59:33,840 --> 01:59:36,479
Hopefully there are still some plans for Ridge Racer in

2544
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:38,640
the future. I just want a new Ridge Racer game.

2545
01:59:39,600 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 1: Lego thank you Sorry, Oh no, go ahead.

2546
01:59:43,119 --> 01:59:44,880
Speaker 4: It's just say thank you to every thank you take

2547
01:59:44,920 --> 01:59:46,920
all three hundred people who messaged me about this.

2548
01:59:46,960 --> 01:59:48,640
Speaker 1: By the way, seriously, I love that.

2549
01:59:48,680 --> 01:59:51,039
Speaker 4: As soon as anybody sees anything Ridge Racer, I get

2550
01:59:51,079 --> 01:59:53,640
like Bombardo with like, hell yeah, people associate me with

2551
01:59:53,720 --> 01:59:54,199
Ridge Racer.

2552
01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:56,520
Speaker 1: That rules Johnson Racer.

2553
01:59:57,439 --> 02:00:00,199
Speaker 4: I was clear like John linnits so number one Red

2554
02:00:00,319 --> 02:00:03,000
Racer guy, Like, you know, I'm a happy second.

2555
02:00:03,479 --> 02:00:03,880
Speaker 3: There you go.

2556
02:00:04,359 --> 02:00:07,279
Speaker 2: Ah, let's see other things here. But this is a

2557
02:00:07,319 --> 02:00:10,680
long expected Elder Scrolls for Oblivion could be released at

2558
02:00:10,680 --> 02:00:12,119
any moment this month.

2559
02:00:12,279 --> 02:00:13,079
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I.

2560
02:00:13,119 --> 02:00:14,680
Speaker 2: Kind of confirmed, but some other people, I guess, we're

2561
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:19,680
saying it's gonna shadow drop probably later in April. So

2562
02:00:20,560 --> 02:00:23,039
they have apparently an Elder Scrolls online event. I think

2563
02:00:23,079 --> 02:00:25,239
it would definitely happen after that, and then some people

2564
02:00:25,239 --> 02:00:28,079
were mentioned that Microsoft might have an event later this month,

2565
02:00:28,119 --> 02:00:29,880
the month, like the last week of the month. I

2566
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:32,680
think it'd probably happen around there. So yeah, but when

2567
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,479
it does happen, apparently it is going to be a

2568
02:00:34,479 --> 02:00:37,920
shadow drop, so just kind of out of nowhere, Mike's grimacing.

2569
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:41,640
Speaker 4: I'm still so skeptical shadow drops, rightly.

2570
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:44,119
Speaker 1: Even for Oblivion, because it's not High Fi Rush.

2571
02:00:44,279 --> 02:00:47,720
Speaker 4: It's I understand that, and look, it'll probably find It's

2572
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:49,760
just it's I always get to this thing of like,

2573
02:00:50,079 --> 02:00:52,119
all right, if we're saying that marketing doesn't matter, then

2574
02:00:52,159 --> 02:00:53,119
why do we ever.

2575
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,800
Speaker 1: Do it for things like this? There must be some

2576
02:00:56,079 --> 02:00:58,840
value in it. I mean, look, maybe that whole thing

2577
02:00:59,039 --> 02:00:59,600
is a lie.

2578
02:00:59,680 --> 02:01:03,520
Speaker 4: It's this think possibility, but that's upsetting too, and it's

2579
02:01:03,560 --> 02:01:05,079
just it's just hard to know, right, Like you know,

2580
02:01:05,119 --> 02:01:06,479
I've heard some people say, Wow, they did it for

2581
02:01:06,600 --> 02:01:10,359
Ninja Guide into Black and that did well, didn't do well?

2582
02:01:10,439 --> 02:01:10,800
Speaker 1: I don't.

2583
02:01:11,039 --> 02:01:11,720
Speaker 4: I don't really know.

2584
02:01:14,079 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 1: Too Black is closed, like on the grand scale, I

2585
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,399
think that game is closer to High Fire Rush than

2586
02:01:18,439 --> 02:01:20,920
it is Too Oblivio. Yes, that's just a big game

2587
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:22,960
game to be fair.

2588
02:01:23,039 --> 02:01:25,720
Speaker 3: Do you think that the excitement is diminished because this

2589
02:01:25,800 --> 02:01:29,439
has leaked fairly, thoroughly, not necessarily an imagery, but just

2590
02:01:29,479 --> 02:01:31,279
like how much people know about the planning for this

2591
02:01:31,359 --> 02:01:33,319
where it's like, all right, just put it out there. Eventually,

2592
02:01:33,399 --> 02:01:35,399
Oh it's a shadow rock that's not exciting anymore.

2593
02:01:36,039 --> 02:01:36,680
Speaker 1: It's hard to say.

2594
02:01:36,720 --> 02:01:38,199
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, like you say, Sean, it's like

2595
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:40,439
the people who do know about this still, but that's

2596
02:01:40,439 --> 02:01:41,680
like such a small group.

2597
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:43,039
Speaker 1: I mean, just look at all the people who were

2598
02:01:43,039 --> 02:01:44,199
absolutely shocked.

2599
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:47,039
Speaker 4: About Donkey Kong Bonanza when you know, I was surprised,

2600
02:01:47,039 --> 02:01:48,880
but we had heard that this was a possibility.

2601
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:50,239
Speaker 1: Jeff, I saw your hand up. Please.

2602
02:01:50,680 --> 02:01:52,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, just this is a I gotta ask you a

2603
02:01:52,439 --> 02:01:55,399
question that's unrelated. If Square Enix were to tweet an

2604
02:01:55,439 --> 02:01:58,239
image it says, my memories will be part of the sky.

2605
02:01:58,479 --> 02:01:59,239
Speaker 1: What does that mean?

2606
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:05,720
Speaker 4: Oh my, it's like that is a I believe that

2607
02:02:05,760 --> 02:02:07,560
is a quote from the ending of Found Fantasy nine,

2608
02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:09,039
if I remember correctly.

2609
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:11,039
Speaker 2: He says, if you know, you know, I do know.

2610
02:02:12,319 --> 02:02:14,079
So yeah, I mean they continue to tease that game.

2611
02:02:14,119 --> 02:02:17,319
This is still not confirmation, but yeah, yeah, but again.

2612
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:19,600
Speaker 4: It's like it is the anniversary of that game. They've

2613
02:02:19,600 --> 02:02:21,680
been doing stuff, so they could just still be getting

2614
02:02:21,720 --> 02:02:25,039
cute with that point. I still, oh, I still want

2615
02:02:25,039 --> 02:02:27,119
to see some foun Fantasy nine stuff. They'll shadow drop

2616
02:02:27,199 --> 02:02:27,439
that too.

2617
02:02:27,479 --> 02:02:32,079
Speaker 1: I'm sure if if I liked Final Fantasy seven a lot,

2618
02:02:32,319 --> 02:02:34,279
which and I would say that Final Fantasy seven was

2619
02:02:34,319 --> 02:02:36,319
the first one I played for real, because I played

2620
02:02:36,319 --> 02:02:40,520
Final Fantasy which ones were on the game Boy Advance,

2621
02:02:41,079 --> 02:02:43,000
so that was three of them.

2622
02:02:43,319 --> 02:02:45,680
Speaker 4: There was Don in Sorrow, which was one and two together,

2623
02:02:45,680 --> 02:02:46,920
and then four, five and six the.

2624
02:02:46,960 --> 02:02:49,359
Speaker 1: S n S game, So I think I played Donald Sorrow,

2625
02:02:49,600 --> 02:03:01,920
Don Soul the Man talking again. What I like nine?

2626
02:03:02,039 --> 02:03:05,399
If I like, yeah, seven and the same.

2627
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 3: If you like because the more traditional fantasy aesthetic, Yeah.

2628
02:03:09,319 --> 02:03:11,279
Speaker 4: I think you'd love it because it's basically more of

2629
02:03:11,319 --> 02:03:13,800
the like the old school aesthetic of the Super Nintendo

2630
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:17,239
Ones with the presentation chops of seven, a lot of

2631
02:03:17,239 --> 02:03:19,680
the gameplay stuff from seven, still that active time bat

2632
02:03:19,960 --> 02:03:20,800
you'd like nine a lot.

2633
02:03:20,920 --> 02:03:23,119
Speaker 1: Nine is great? Great, Well, I hope they'd make it

2634
02:03:23,159 --> 02:03:24,359
again so I can play it.

2635
02:03:25,319 --> 02:03:29,159
Speaker 2: Last thing, the Minecraft movie Mike's favorite movie of the year.

2636
02:03:29,199 --> 02:03:31,960
Have you seen any other movie in theaters this year, I.

2637
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:33,960
Speaker 4: Saw that Looney Tunes movie that most people don't know.

2638
02:03:34,199 --> 02:03:36,359
I said, I liked that. That was really fun. It

2639
02:03:36,399 --> 02:03:39,239
probably made like six million dollars, so probably made a

2640
02:03:39,319 --> 02:03:41,560
fraction of a fraction of what Minecraft's doing.

2641
02:03:41,800 --> 02:03:44,119
Speaker 2: That's interesting to bring that up because Minecraft Movie broke

2642
02:03:44,159 --> 02:03:46,880
records with a one hundred and fifty seven million dollar

2643
02:03:47,079 --> 02:03:51,880
US opening weekend, surpassing the Super Mario Brothers movie. And also,

2644
02:03:51,960 --> 02:03:53,359
let's see here, I think it made some like three

2645
02:03:53,439 --> 02:03:55,920
hundred and fifty dollars three here and fifty million dollars

2646
02:03:55,960 --> 02:03:57,399
globally in its first weekend.

2647
02:03:58,319 --> 02:03:59,560
Speaker 1: That's pretty It's.

2648
02:03:59,479 --> 02:04:02,800
Speaker 4: Already made any more in the US in that opening

2649
02:04:02,800 --> 02:04:05,359
weekend the Detective Pikachu ever did in the US.

2650
02:04:05,439 --> 02:04:07,680
Speaker 1: That's pretty well. That's nuts.

2651
02:04:07,960 --> 02:04:10,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, you were trying to diagnose this on your stream,

2652
02:04:10,199 --> 02:04:11,680
and I don't have a good answer for this as well.

2653
02:04:11,680 --> 02:04:14,600
I think it's like Detective Pikaju just had this vibe

2654
02:04:14,600 --> 02:04:15,720
that kids didn't like.

2655
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:17,159
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know.

2656
02:04:17,640 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 3: Oh, you're comparing because of the style.

2657
02:04:20,560 --> 02:04:26,239
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm like, why did Minecraft make so much money

2658
02:04:26,239 --> 02:04:27,359
and Detective Pikachu didn't.

2659
02:04:27,399 --> 02:04:29,159
Speaker 1: I just want to answer to that. Well, movie, just

2660
02:04:29,159 --> 02:04:30,640
tell me if you know, I'm happy to hear it.

2661
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,880
Speaker 3: Minecraft. That's it, end of story. It's the big Minecraft,

2662
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:36,560
just as Minecraft. Like kids use minecrafts are like, we

2663
02:04:36,560 --> 02:04:38,000
gotta do the Minecraft thing to their parents.

2664
02:04:38,039 --> 02:04:40,119
Speaker 1: I thought they did that for Pikachu. That's all. Is

2665
02:04:40,159 --> 02:04:42,199
my big worldwide with kids.

2666
02:04:42,439 --> 02:04:46,560
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeahs not popular with kids anymore because.

2667
02:04:48,000 --> 02:04:52,560
Speaker 3: I'm not sure the enthusiasm for a Pokemon movie would

2668
02:04:52,720 --> 02:04:55,960
be the same. It wouldn't be in the same way,

2669
02:04:56,079 --> 02:04:59,239
you know, because like kids just are ravenous about Like

2670
02:04:59,319 --> 02:05:02,119
think about the Fortnite movie, you know, where it's got

2671
02:05:02,199 --> 02:05:05,800
like or whatever, and like all the kids are go

2672
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:08,640
go nuts for it. Yeah, it's I also bet they are,

2673
02:05:09,399 --> 02:05:12,199
so Chad is pointing out Detective Pokemon is like, not

2674
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:15,520
really what you think is really what you think? It's

2675
02:05:15,800 --> 02:05:16,680
point thing Pokemon.

2676
02:05:16,720 --> 02:05:19,640
Speaker 1: It's a movie that has Pokemon in it. It is not,

2677
02:05:20,520 --> 02:05:22,800
but it is also yes, obviously a Pokemon movie, but

2678
02:05:22,840 --> 02:05:24,640
it is, Like I think you're right.

2679
02:05:24,640 --> 02:05:28,319
Speaker 2: I know you're saying that. Yeah, I agree. I think

2680
02:05:28,319 --> 02:05:29,880
that's a big part of it. Honestly, I think if

2681
02:05:29,880 --> 02:05:32,840
they shoot, like if a Pokemon movie came out the

2682
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,039
same vibes as this Minecraft movie, I don't know if

2683
02:05:35,039 --> 02:05:36,920
it would do minecraft numbers, but I think it would

2684
02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:38,000
be closer.

2685
02:05:37,680 --> 02:05:40,199
Speaker 1: To like Mario. Yeah, so yeah, I think so.

2686
02:05:40,479 --> 02:05:43,439
Speaker 2: All right, that does for the news that I've I've

2687
02:05:43,479 --> 02:05:45,960
gathered here and collated for everybody. I'm handing this show

2688
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:47,720
back over to our host Nicki Grayson.

2689
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:58,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, I have it for not watching the program.

2690
02:05:59,359 --> 02:06:01,680
Jeff had a small basketball and just threw it at

2691
02:06:01,720 --> 02:06:05,479
a wall and knocked over like three things one thing,

2692
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:07,840
and I caught it with my foot, thank you very much.

2693
02:06:07,880 --> 02:06:09,119
Speaker 2: I don't want to say what it was because it's

2694
02:06:09,119 --> 02:06:12,159
an expensive thing and it's embarrassing I saw it.

2695
02:06:13,359 --> 02:06:16,960
Speaker 1: Well, folks, that's it for the news. Nothing else will

2696
02:06:17,000 --> 02:06:20,399
happen because we've talked about all of it. Never again,

2697
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:27,520
never again. We will be back momentarily with some electronic males. Wow.

2698
02:06:29,560 --> 02:06:31,840
Speaker 5: So there was Jingle Boom that was their Christmas one.

2699
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:35,439
That was their third song, right, and then there's we

2700
02:06:35,479 --> 02:06:37,000
Bring the Boom was the original one, that's.

2701
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:39,319
Speaker 1: The DK one, that's that's that's the yes.

2702
02:06:39,199 --> 02:06:42,159
Speaker 5: Still bringing it was another one, but then the new

2703
02:06:42,199 --> 02:06:44,800
one is just unbelievably terrible.

2704
02:06:47,439 --> 02:06:50,439
Speaker 1: You should say, actually batter you just still kind of I.

2705
02:06:50,359 --> 02:06:52,199
Speaker 5: Want you to hear it, Kim, can we do the

2706
02:06:52,239 --> 02:06:52,840
audio on.

2707
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:56,239
Speaker 1: Theo Oh, are you saying Nikky that he's beefing? Are

2708
02:06:56,279 --> 02:06:57,840
you trying to still be beef.

2709
02:06:58,199 --> 02:07:00,520
Speaker 5: I still follow them. I still like their stuff. I

2710
02:07:00,520 --> 02:07:01,560
think it's on TikTok.

2711
02:07:03,640 --> 02:07:04,960
Speaker 1: You love playing ees as well.

2712
02:07:05,720 --> 02:07:08,000
Speaker 5: I like playing Ease. That's a good videos.

2713
02:07:08,399 --> 02:07:10,119
Speaker 1: It's just the one where they say ohio a lot.

2714
02:07:10,359 --> 02:07:12,119
Speaker 5: They do say ohio a lot And Okay, here it is.

2715
02:07:12,119 --> 02:07:14,840
I got the the link here, I'll put in the

2716
02:07:14,920 --> 02:07:19,840
chatays always gonna boom aj in Big Justice. Yeah, it's

2717
02:07:19,880 --> 02:07:22,920
it's really terrible. And there's this new guy that just

2718
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:25,479
talks and memes and he's not part of the family.

2719
02:07:26,079 --> 02:07:30,399
Speaker 1: So yeah, wait, they got an outsider in the Yeah, he's.

2720
02:07:30,239 --> 02:07:33,560
Speaker 5: An outsider who does like these meme songs, and so

2721
02:07:33,640 --> 02:07:36,399
he says the way he says quarterback in this song

2722
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:41,199
makes me so mad. I don't know if way to

2723
02:07:41,279 --> 02:07:44,800
say that. He did a new way.

2724
02:07:44,680 --> 02:07:48,039
Speaker 1: To say quarterback, and it's awful. He's got a new

2725
02:07:48,079 --> 02:07:49,680
way to say quarterback. They dropped a new way to

2726
02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:50,720
say quarterback.

2727
02:07:50,359 --> 02:07:53,119
Speaker 5: And apparently it's a reference to a meme and I

2728
02:07:53,119 --> 02:07:54,159
had to look it that. It was like, why is

2729
02:07:54,199 --> 02:07:57,079
he talking about what's that's my name? Quarterback or whatever?

2730
02:07:58,399 --> 02:08:01,079
Speaker 2: People were mad that we're talking about just get shown

2731
02:08:01,119 --> 02:08:03,880
on social media. He insisted this is all his idea.

2732
02:08:06,439 --> 02:08:10,600
Speaker 1: A j Big Justice started this ship. Let's see here,

2733
02:08:10,680 --> 02:08:11,439
you're a dope.

2734
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:13,520
Speaker 3: Here we go here.

2735
02:08:14,159 --> 02:08:17,159
Speaker 1: Can you do the video? No, I just have the music.

2736
02:08:18,439 --> 02:08:20,880
Speaker 4: They're walking backwards a lot. That's all what's happening.

2737
02:08:20,600 --> 02:08:25,479
Speaker 1: In the video. See kids like Pokemon.

2738
02:08:41,479 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 4: You love this the greatest thing ever.

2739
02:08:47,279 --> 02:08:48,920
Speaker 1: I'm sending this to my wife as soon as we're

2740
02:08:48,920 --> 02:08:49,279
done here.

2741
02:08:52,119 --> 02:08:55,479
Speaker 5: You jelly House is the guy who jumped in on this.

2742
02:08:55,560 --> 02:08:57,800
Speaker 1: He's a whistler, is doing something.

2743
02:08:57,840 --> 02:08:59,800
Speaker 5: Oh that's yeah. You didn't get to the second. It's

2744
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:01,640
broke up into two different things. Damn you didn't even

2745
02:09:01,680 --> 02:09:04,560
see the real bad quarterback.

2746
02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:10,359
Speaker 1: No, I'm looking for a second part.

2747
02:09:10,399 --> 02:09:13,479
Speaker 2: They have like five thousand videos though, so I don't

2748
02:09:13,520 --> 02:09:15,239
know why is Big Justices?

2749
02:09:16,640 --> 02:09:17,720
Speaker 1: Why is his.

2750
02:09:17,800 --> 02:09:19,039
Speaker 2: Name like an American flag?

2751
02:09:20,399 --> 02:09:22,359
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, all right, Well.

2752
02:09:22,199 --> 02:09:24,159
Speaker 5: What a new song about anxiety?

2753
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:32,600
Speaker 1: Senator? Oh okay, for anxiety?

2754
02:09:33,399 --> 02:09:34,319
Speaker 5: I would give it a doom.

2755
02:09:34,439 --> 02:09:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, someone have to play the part two in checks.

2756
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:39,279
I'm not going to go through all these videos. And

2757
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:42,840
he has a nation cruise to Rebecca Black over the

2758
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:43,680
Friday Music.

2759
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:46,640
Speaker 2: I feel real bad about that because she's hot now.

2760
02:09:46,720 --> 02:09:57,000
Speaker 1: But that's all. Yeah, all we're doing now, okay, thank you. Yeah,

2761
02:09:57,199 --> 02:10:00,880
Rebecca Black will be performing at the.

2762
02:10:01,359 --> 02:10:03,560
Speaker 3: It has been slain audio listeners.

2763
02:10:11,359 --> 02:10:15,880
Speaker 1: This guy, we bring the ball tik tako alive. I'll go.

2764
02:10:16,039 --> 02:10:26,920
Patrick's is not the same part? No, not the same.

2765
02:10:27,000 --> 02:10:32,640
Let when we to the room, it's let me hear

2766
02:10:32,720 --> 02:10:38,560
you never gonna doom joom zoom.

2767
02:10:38,920 --> 02:10:42,399
Speaker 5: Just not what we just hurts the back to the same,

2768
02:10:43,479 --> 02:10:43,960
never gonna.

2769
02:10:45,079 --> 02:10:49,359
Speaker 1: I think this song is good. Yeah, here's more. Here's more.

2770
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:52,479
Speaker 3: Sure about them?

2771
02:10:52,920 --> 02:10:54,600
Speaker 5: Oh no, one grab.

2772
02:10:56,439 --> 02:10:57,359
Speaker 1: Right away.

2773
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:08,359
Speaker 5: And now we gotta find another. That one's listed as

2774
02:11:08,399 --> 02:11:08,880
part one?

2775
02:11:09,119 --> 02:11:12,359
Speaker 1: What is this? What list? It is? Okay? Actually, can

2776
02:11:12,399 --> 02:11:15,199
we talk about what Donkey Kong games are? Mainline? Somehow

2777
02:11:15,279 --> 02:11:21,319
that sounds.

2778
02:11:19,159 --> 02:11:24,359
Speaker 5: I'm moving the gold books.

2779
02:11:24,720 --> 02:11:37,800
Speaker 1: Play the emails music please emails uh email addresses bombcasts

2780
02:11:37,840 --> 02:11:40,960
on bomb dot com. That's where you can send an

2781
02:11:40,960 --> 02:11:45,560
email to us. I've never seen the email in box,

2782
02:11:45,960 --> 02:11:49,079
so I assume it's only good stuff in there. When

2783
02:11:49,399 --> 02:11:51,600
you have to put an email address in for something

2784
02:11:51,600 --> 02:11:55,439
you're signing up for, you should just use the BombCast email.

2785
02:11:56,880 --> 02:12:03,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, coming back to this, just just use the BombCast

2786
02:12:03,079 --> 02:12:04,640
email one time.

2787
02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:09,079
Speaker 1: It was I think it was mid pandemic, like midpan pandemic.

2788
02:12:09,119 --> 02:12:13,880
It was the summer of lockdown. I signed John Warren

2789
02:12:14,159 --> 02:12:18,199
of vgb's up for a knife defense class because I

2790
02:12:18,199 --> 02:12:22,600
thought that would be funny. And the second email they

2791
02:12:22,680 --> 02:12:27,319
sent him had an unbelievably graphic image of a guy

2792
02:12:27,359 --> 02:12:30,840
who had been sliced open by a big knife. Gez

2793
02:12:31,399 --> 02:12:35,159
just in the email. In the email was a picture

2794
02:12:35,159 --> 02:12:37,119
of a guy who had been sliced open by a knife.

2795
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:44,159
So don't do that ideally, but game yeah, no gore please,

2796
02:12:44,239 --> 02:12:50,199
but vore maybe bombcastigiant bomb dot com. This one comes

2797
02:12:50,239 --> 02:12:55,720
in from Kevin in Tennessee. Any S must have is? Hey,

2798
02:12:55,760 --> 02:12:59,479
bomb crew, what are some of your lesser known must

2799
02:12:59,520 --> 02:13:03,119
play and S titles? I've started collecting recently and I

2800
02:13:03,199 --> 02:13:06,439
fell in love with Blades of Steel. I also bought

2801
02:13:06,479 --> 02:13:09,760
Fester's Quest after Blight Club. Wish me luck, Love, Kevin

2802
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:14,520
from Tennessee, Son. The black iPhone Steel is very good.

2803
02:13:14,560 --> 02:13:18,079
I preferred ice hockey. Ice hockey is my favorite hockey game.

2804
02:13:18,399 --> 02:13:19,680
Speaker 2: Let me make sure ice hockey is that the one

2805
02:13:19,680 --> 02:13:21,880
where you select skinny guy, middle guy.

2806
02:13:22,279 --> 02:13:24,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a great concept. The fat guy. It's like

2807
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:25,399
you're just your.

2808
02:13:25,680 --> 02:13:27,520
Speaker 5: Guy, just a team of three fat guys. You're just

2809
02:13:27,560 --> 02:13:32,079
reckoning out one. It's incredible play. So I don't know

2810
02:13:32,079 --> 02:13:36,319
if it is pick the fat guy. Kickle Cubicle is

2811
02:13:36,399 --> 02:13:37,960
one that no one ever talks about, and I love

2812
02:13:38,039 --> 02:13:42,199
kickle Cubicle. And recently Mike was talking about, uh a

2813
02:13:42,239 --> 02:13:45,800
little Nemo the Dreammasters, fantastic.

2814
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:48,840
Speaker 4: That's a great capcom one. Another fun capcom one is

2815
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:53,079
Yo Nooid. It's starting the guy from Domino's Pizza. My

2816
02:13:53,199 --> 02:13:55,439
sports game that nobody talks about that I liked was

2817
02:13:55,560 --> 02:13:59,199
Bad News Baseball. Everybody does RBI Baseball, but I like.

2818
02:13:59,159 --> 02:14:01,520
Speaker 1: I do Bass Wars Robots playing base Wars.

2819
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:03,560
Speaker 2: That was gonna be like, if you're playing sports games,

2820
02:14:03,600 --> 02:14:06,159
forget that nerd ship that News Baseball, get some bass

2821
02:14:06,159 --> 02:14:07,560
Wars has robots.

2822
02:14:07,199 --> 02:14:09,920
Speaker 5: Robots like five Baseballs out as a pitch.

2823
02:14:09,760 --> 02:14:13,000
Speaker 1: Yes, threads robots.

2824
02:14:13,479 --> 02:14:17,359
Speaker 4: A better Sunsoft license, top down kind of action game

2825
02:14:17,399 --> 02:14:21,039
would be Gremlin's to the New Batch. Credible music and

2826
02:14:21,079 --> 02:14:23,359
that was well. Also, Journey to Silly As is a

2827
02:14:23,399 --> 02:14:26,399
great sun Soft game that maybe you have or have

2828
02:14:26,479 --> 02:14:30,760
not heard of. Check that one out as well.

2829
02:14:29,560 --> 02:14:32,279
Speaker 5: Right, Radical Ninja.

2830
02:14:32,920 --> 02:14:35,359
Speaker 1: Oh that's a good I really I had a great

2831
02:14:35,359 --> 02:14:36,399
time making that one.

2832
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:39,039
Speaker 5: Oh yeah when you were Kidney?

2833
02:14:39,159 --> 02:14:41,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, yeah, I got it.

2834
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:43,199
Speaker 2: I can't be alone in this. I can't be the

2835
02:14:43,239 --> 02:14:48,880
only one who just heard this. I'm sorry.

2836
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:50,640
Speaker 1: You should go back do it again?

2837
02:14:51,039 --> 02:14:53,239
Speaker 5: Okay, everyone, Hey, will you take it again?

2838
02:14:56,359 --> 02:14:56,760
Speaker 6: It was.

2839
02:14:59,279 --> 02:15:07,840
Speaker 5: Quarterback. I was on stream the other night and I'm

2840
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:09,640
just who is this motherfucker? And I looked up his

2841
02:15:09,720 --> 02:15:14,000
name is jelly House. Go to his YouTube and watch anything.

2842
02:15:14,039 --> 02:15:17,479
Oh wait, it's like it's likely tought of chicken. How

2843
02:15:17,479 --> 02:15:20,079
to say the word quarterback?

2844
02:15:20,760 --> 02:15:21,520
Speaker 1: Quarter back?

2845
02:15:22,239 --> 02:15:25,720
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, if the world was edging is the name

2846
02:15:25,800 --> 02:15:28,399
of his son? Yeah, that's right. I'm gonna post that

2847
02:15:28,479 --> 02:15:30,279
in the chat. This is if the world was edging?

2848
02:15:31,560 --> 02:15:34,039
Speaker 1: Us the juice? Get us the juice? All right?

2849
02:15:34,039 --> 02:15:34,359
Speaker 3: Hang on?

2850
02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:37,800
Speaker 1: Is this like if if I could buy the world

2851
02:15:37,880 --> 02:15:38,880
a coke? Yeah?

2852
02:15:39,319 --> 02:15:42,520
Speaker 5: But he's wearing the same ship yeah and walking backwards again?

2853
02:15:43,199 --> 02:15:46,079
Speaker 1: Is he related to rollants.

2854
02:15:45,159 --> 02:15:52,159
Speaker 6: And phantom tags? And happened in Egypt? What are you

2855
02:15:52,319 --> 02:15:55,880
out streaming? Were you in the war room? Sip and Johnny?

2856
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:59,000
Welcome ma man, it's a bear. Now think I'm gonna

2857
02:15:59,119 --> 02:16:01,159
crash out.

2858
02:16:01,279 --> 02:16:09,079
Speaker 1: He's just saying thanks from the internet and protest stop

2859
02:16:09,159 --> 02:16:12,039
stop protest. I'm gonna scream up right now.

2860
02:16:12,159 --> 02:16:17,279
Speaker 4: No more stop stop stop?

2861
02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:21,039
Speaker 1: Did it stop some more? Stop?

2862
02:16:21,560 --> 02:16:22,159
Speaker 4: Stop?

2863
02:16:22,800 --> 02:16:27,960
Speaker 1: Stop up Hello bodcast, I promised this trivia.

2864
02:16:28,239 --> 02:16:30,840
Speaker 2: You know what's funny is none of this would happen

2865
02:16:30,880 --> 02:16:31,800
of jan here.

2866
02:16:31,760 --> 02:16:35,479
Speaker 5: Like oor way more of it or way more the

2867
02:16:35,559 --> 02:16:41,040
right one or the other. Yeah, yeah, hell, I think

2868
02:16:41,079 --> 02:16:45,600
because Mike too much, we need to get more promise.

2869
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:50,360
Speaker 1: This piece of trivia is nicer than last week's chainsaw one.

2870
02:16:51,239 --> 02:16:54,600
Bubble Wrap was originally created by two inventors putting two

2871
02:16:54,639 --> 02:16:57,840
plastic shower curtains together for the purposes of a textured

2872
02:16:57,879 --> 02:17:01,440
and insulated wallpaper that did and work. When they heeded

2873
02:17:01,440 --> 02:17:04,879
the two shower curtains together, it produced bubbles between the curtains.

2874
02:17:05,239 --> 02:17:07,440
They then thought it could be used as an insulator

2875
02:17:07,440 --> 02:17:11,360
for greenhouses, which it didn't. They patented it for loads

2876
02:17:11,360 --> 02:17:14,639
of things, including a sob condensation on toilet tanks, but

2877
02:17:14,719 --> 02:17:17,799
none of it worked. Finally, IBM needed something to put

2878
02:17:17,799 --> 02:17:21,000
in their boxes for shipping computer parts, which actually worked.

2879
02:17:21,360 --> 02:17:23,920
Thanks for all you do, Simon from Saskatchewan.

2880
02:17:25,559 --> 02:17:27,639
Speaker 2: Funny, you could invent something and it could just be

2881
02:17:27,760 --> 02:17:30,959
ship for five hundred iterations and finally, so I guess

2882
02:17:31,159 --> 02:17:33,920
works for this and now I can make money. That's

2883
02:17:33,959 --> 02:17:36,639
a sticky notes. They were trying to create like really

2884
02:17:36,680 --> 02:17:39,360
strong glue for airplanes and like, so we need the

2885
02:17:39,360 --> 02:17:41,680
strongest glue that's ever been made, and they're like, well

2886
02:17:41,719 --> 02:17:43,680
we tried to do it. Here it is and it

2887
02:17:43,719 --> 02:17:45,159
was the weakest glue.

2888
02:17:46,760 --> 02:17:51,120
Speaker 1: Possibly need weak glue? Floor, Yeah, here we have Look

2889
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:54,760
I put the paper on there. Yeah, yeah, thank you

2890
02:17:54,920 --> 02:17:59,319
so much, Simon, thank you for all you do. You know,

2891
02:18:00,399 --> 02:18:05,959
oh Simon or me? Are you thinking I'll let you pick?

2892
02:18:07,079 --> 02:18:12,000
Speaker 4: I did just save you from the meme songs fucking.

2893
02:18:13,360 --> 02:18:19,280
Speaker 1: Stop light on the Mountain tonight.

2894
02:18:20,479 --> 02:18:26,360
Speaker 4: To Kingdom of I chorus and it looks like I'm

2895
02:18:26,399 --> 02:18:32,120
the queen and the snow is whirling like a thunderstorm inside.

2896
02:18:33,680 --> 02:18:39,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't keep thicking. Heaven knows, I tried. I think it stopped.

2897
02:18:39,120 --> 02:18:42,440
I think it stopped. For hey, gang, remember that time

2898
02:18:42,479 --> 02:18:44,639
the British government made you pay too much for your

2899
02:18:44,680 --> 02:18:47,959
tea so you had our capital, our revolution. You should

2900
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:50,479
do that again. But for the switch to you could

2901
02:18:50,559 --> 02:18:59,600
call it the Nintendo Revolution. Well that's pretty good. Seriously, though, I.

2902
02:18:59,559 --> 02:19:02,399
Speaker 5: Don't think Mike should be able to filibuster a bitch

2903
02:19:02,559 --> 02:19:03,760
by singing Disney.

2904
02:19:04,479 --> 02:19:08,280
Speaker 1: I think that's a great I am getting what he wants.

2905
02:19:10,000 --> 02:19:11,399
He does know a lot of Disney songs.

2906
02:19:11,399 --> 02:19:13,040
Speaker 5: You know, it's scary.

2907
02:19:13,479 --> 02:19:15,600
Speaker 3: Jeff, are you recording these songs for a local track?

2908
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:23,319
Speaker 5: You could say, Sean and time them right?

2909
02:19:24,319 --> 02:19:32,799
Speaker 1: A show will in New jack City. Uh, yeah, no,

2910
02:19:32,920 --> 02:19:37,479
that's true. Thanks appreciating. Let email again. I feel bad

2911
02:19:37,479 --> 02:19:41,440
if you all start over. Hey, gang, remember that time

2912
02:19:41,479 --> 02:19:47,840
the British government made Uke welded it.

2913
02:19:48,120 --> 02:19:50,920
Speaker 4: I went to I went to the Boston Tea Party

2914
02:19:51,000 --> 02:19:52,280
Museum in Boston last year.

2915
02:19:52,280 --> 02:19:54,440
Speaker 1: We were there for Pexy Soun was great. It's a

2916
02:19:54,479 --> 02:19:57,920
pretty good museum. It's like a show. It's like a yeah,

2917
02:19:58,079 --> 02:20:01,520
you're a character in it. It's dinner show. There was

2918
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:04,959
no dinner. You can buy tea at the end, teas

2919
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:11,760
dinner if you're poor. Next question, Fargo TV in the bedroom.

2920
02:20:12,280 --> 02:20:15,719
This is a yes or no question. Okay, for I.

2921
02:20:15,719 --> 02:20:19,280
Speaker 4: Thought it was TP like toilet paper like it was

2922
02:20:19,399 --> 02:20:20,959
corn who wrote this.

2923
02:20:21,079 --> 02:20:24,120
Speaker 1: I have toilet paper in the bedroom because sometimes I

2924
02:20:24,159 --> 02:20:28,879
don't have tissue box sometimes tolet toilet paper.

2925
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:30,520
Speaker 5: Bedroom over over TV.

2926
02:20:30,680 --> 02:20:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

2927
02:20:32,239 --> 02:20:34,159
Speaker 2: As a kid, I loved having a TV in my bedroom.

2928
02:20:34,239 --> 02:20:36,000
Speaker 1: It's an adult se No.

2929
02:20:36,200 --> 02:20:38,479
Speaker 4: I look, I love I don't have a TV amore.

2930
02:20:38,479 --> 02:20:40,159
It's just because I have a laptop that I use

2931
02:20:40,200 --> 02:20:43,319
as a TV in there. But no, I loved having

2932
02:20:43,360 --> 02:20:45,760
a TV and I need to. I know it's maybe

2933
02:20:45,840 --> 02:20:49,280
impacting my sleep, but I like that time too much.

2934
02:20:49,440 --> 02:20:52,159
I love my in bed just watching ship and playing

2935
02:20:52,159 --> 02:20:53,680
the best.

2936
02:20:53,440 --> 02:20:56,239
Speaker 1: Part of the day. It's the best part of the day.

2937
02:20:56,280 --> 02:21:00,680
I'm not sacrificing that for anything. My room is the

2938
02:21:00,719 --> 02:21:03,719
front room of this house. It's the living room, and

2939
02:21:03,760 --> 02:21:06,600
I have split it up into two distinct zones, so

2940
02:21:06,639 --> 02:21:08,959
I have the living room side in the bedroom side,

2941
02:21:09,280 --> 02:21:12,879
and there's no bedroom. I can't see the TV, particularly

2942
02:21:13,399 --> 02:21:17,200
from the bed, which was intentional, and I have the

2943
02:21:17,200 --> 02:21:21,360
couch in front of the TV. But normally I am.

2944
02:21:21,639 --> 02:21:23,239
I do not think there should be a TV in

2945
02:21:23,239 --> 02:21:24,840
the bedroom. I think it makes me sick.

2946
02:21:25,799 --> 02:21:28,559
Speaker 2: It's like the TV specific what Mike, what you described

2947
02:21:28,600 --> 02:21:30,680
like switch and stuff. I do feel like TV in

2948
02:21:30,719 --> 02:21:32,760
the bedroom feels like wearing a robe on a weekday.

2949
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:36,200
Like during the day. Something about it just feels slovenly.

2950
02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:38,920
What's that word like, Yeah, slabbish, slovenly.

2951
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:40,120
Speaker 1: I get you.

2952
02:21:40,120 --> 02:21:43,040
Speaker 4: You know what's messed up is that the audio version

2953
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:44,879
of this podcast is not gonna have those songs. It's

2954
02:21:44,879 --> 02:21:46,559
just gonna have me screaming and everything.

2955
02:21:46,680 --> 02:21:52,239
Speaker 1: Get mad at me. That's not realizing. Just take the

2956
02:21:52,280 --> 02:21:53,680
back up audio for that part.

2957
02:21:53,760 --> 02:21:59,840
Speaker 2: Please, no, just you don't do that anymore because I

2958
02:21:59,879 --> 02:22:01,280
have got it set up correctly now.

2959
02:22:01,280 --> 02:22:02,719
Speaker 1: So if we want more music.

2960
02:22:06,680 --> 02:22:08,159
Speaker 6: If the world was edging.

2961
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:21,280
Speaker 1: That, if the world was edging, oh my god, God,

2962
02:22:21,479 --> 02:22:26,719
whoa what note was that? Buddy? All right, I've had enough.

2963
02:22:26,719 --> 02:22:33,079
Speaker 2: Also, boy, just now, when you have your breck at

2964
02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:36,319
black Glow up, maybe get come back later.

2965
02:22:37,600 --> 02:22:38,680
Speaker 1: Uh.

2966
02:22:40,559 --> 02:22:42,079
Speaker 3: Episodes we made a long time, you know.

2967
02:22:42,479 --> 02:22:45,959
Speaker 1: We listen and listen. There's there's always got to be

2968
02:22:45,959 --> 02:22:50,680
a last one, uh, the folks. I was recently playing

2969
02:22:50,760 --> 02:22:52,879
Allan Wake two, and for a good portion of the

2970
02:22:52,959 --> 02:22:55,040
game I thought it might be one of my favorite

2971
02:22:55,079 --> 02:22:58,319
games of all time. It unraveled for me a little

2972
02:22:58,440 --> 02:23:00,280
in the back end of the game, but then my

2973
02:23:00,440 --> 02:23:03,319
enthusiasm for it was completely destroyed by and this is

2974
02:23:03,360 --> 02:23:10,040
a spoiler. Okay, are you ready for Allen Wake t spoilers? Yeah,

2975
02:23:10,239 --> 02:23:12,760
the decision to force players to play through the twenty

2976
02:23:12,799 --> 02:23:15,079
hour plus game for a second time to get the

2977
02:23:15,159 --> 02:23:18,680
true ending. I believe this was an update to made

2978
02:23:18,719 --> 02:23:22,399
some time after initial release. What is this some ghosts

2979
02:23:22,399 --> 02:23:26,280
and goblins tribute that's in reference for old people? That

2980
02:23:26,319 --> 02:23:30,000
created decision? That created decision left such a bad taste

2981
02:23:30,040 --> 02:23:31,959
in my mouth that it's killed any love I had

2982
02:23:31,959 --> 02:23:34,479
for the game, and even, at least for the time being,

2983
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:37,680
any interest I have for any future remedy project. Has

2984
02:23:37,719 --> 02:23:41,040
there ever been a single creative decision made in a

2985
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:43,959
piece of work that you've otherwise loved that just led

2986
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:48,639
you to walking away from it forever? Love? CJ from Wellington,

2987
02:23:48,719 --> 02:23:51,440
New Zealand. PS. I don't have anything fun to say

2988
02:23:51,479 --> 02:23:53,840
in a PS, but it just seems to be what

2989
02:23:53,879 --> 02:23:56,920
people do around these parts. Thank you, CJ. Wellington is

2990
02:23:56,959 --> 02:23:58,840
one of the most beautiful cities I've ever been into

2991
02:23:58,840 --> 02:24:03,520
my entire life. Congratulations on living there. Yeah, does anyone

2992
02:24:03,559 --> 02:24:06,040
have any creative decisions that made them so mad they

2993
02:24:06,040 --> 02:24:06,879
walked away forever?

2994
02:24:07,239 --> 02:24:10,479
Speaker 5: There was that room and mirror's edge.

2995
02:24:13,200 --> 02:24:15,159
Speaker 3: You had to look up and yeah.

2996
02:24:15,000 --> 02:24:16,639
Speaker 1: People turn around.

2997
02:24:17,159 --> 02:24:19,559
Speaker 4: I don't know about like walk away forever. I hate

2998
02:24:19,559 --> 02:24:23,000
to bring this thing up again, but the ending of

2999
02:24:23,079 --> 02:24:25,000
Mass Effectory was so bad. I don't think I ever

3000
02:24:25,079 --> 02:24:27,639
quite really respected that series.

3001
02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:31,600
Speaker 5: Again, I did not understand that blowback. I thought it

3002
02:24:31,639 --> 02:24:32,360
was totally fine.

3003
02:24:33,079 --> 02:24:36,319
Speaker 1: It was awful. It was such a bad that was

3004
02:24:36,319 --> 02:24:39,840
okay bullshit. Yeah it was nothing.

3005
02:24:40,639 --> 02:24:42,799
Speaker 2: It did not come up to what they were said

3006
02:24:42,799 --> 02:24:43,239
it would be.

3007
02:24:43,280 --> 02:24:45,120
Speaker 1: But yeah, we don't have to drudge up this very

3008
02:24:45,239 --> 02:24:49,799
old argument. But no, let's fight about it. Let's start

3009
02:24:49,879 --> 02:24:59,239
check in with the meme guy. Yeah, okay, that's good.

3010
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:01,719
Speaker 4: I seem like, I will say, it seems like everybody

3011
02:25:01,799 --> 02:25:02,840
is on your guys's side.

3012
02:25:02,840 --> 02:25:02,920
Speaker 6: Now.

3013
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:04,600
Speaker 1: Everyone's like, it wasn't that bad.

3014
02:25:04,879 --> 02:25:06,840
Speaker 4: I see some people be like, oh, changing it was

3015
02:25:06,959 --> 02:25:09,319
bad for arts in general.

3016
02:25:09,799 --> 02:25:12,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought it was really bad relative

3017
02:25:12,079 --> 02:25:14,159
to the blowback because you're not you. We just didn't.

3018
02:25:14,239 --> 02:25:16,040
Speaker 2: You weren't involved in the blowback. You weren't being a

3019
02:25:16,040 --> 02:25:17,799
crazy person in mine. I just didn't like it.

3020
02:25:17,879 --> 02:25:20,319
Speaker 4: Who knows, it was like two thousand and ten. Who

3021
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:21,280
knows what I was up to, But.

3022
02:25:21,200 --> 02:25:23,639
Speaker 2: I don't think I was listening to little Exploding bar

3023
02:25:23,680 --> 02:25:28,280
all the time you were not attacking the mass effect developers, sure.

3024
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:29,760
Speaker 1: But like it was.

3025
02:25:29,799 --> 02:25:31,719
Speaker 2: I just like, at this point, relative to the blowback,

3026
02:25:31,719 --> 02:25:33,440
I'm just like, yeah, this was totally fine.

3027
02:25:34,120 --> 02:25:37,079
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of people. The good I

3028
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:39,319
was people should be allowed to end ship poorly if

3029
02:25:39,319 --> 02:25:40,040
they want.

3030
02:25:40,760 --> 02:25:48,559
Speaker 8: Yeah, well I don't think they, but yeah, I felt

3031
02:25:48,559 --> 02:25:51,120
that way about like the Matrix sequels that I just like,

3032
02:25:51,600 --> 02:25:53,079
I don't want all this stuff in the real world,

3033
02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:54,360
you know, like this is kind of like I like

3034
02:25:54,399 --> 02:25:56,239
this stuff when they're on the highway doing cool stuff

3035
02:25:56,239 --> 02:25:59,040
in the matrix, but the real world stuff if that sucked.

3036
02:25:59,319 --> 02:26:06,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I don't think. Well it's hard if

3037
02:26:06,040 --> 02:26:08,680
Game of Thrones is not a video game, but this is.

3038
02:26:08,719 --> 02:26:10,280
It's the one that came into my mind to answer

3039
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:13,120
this question, and I started to be like, oh, Game

3040
02:26:13,159 --> 02:26:14,760
of Thrones, I liked it. But then I was like, actually,

3041
02:26:14,799 --> 02:26:16,479
I don't know if I ever liked Game of Thrones

3042
02:26:16,600 --> 02:26:20,239
very much, but oh, but that did get me how

3043
02:26:20,280 --> 02:26:22,280
I met your mother? The end of that tell, the

3044
02:26:22,360 --> 02:26:25,559
last season of that TV show has made me more

3045
02:26:25,639 --> 02:26:28,120
mad than I think anything I've ever consumed in my life,

3046
02:26:28,159 --> 02:26:32,959
because it it made me retroactively hate the multiple years

3047
02:26:32,959 --> 02:26:36,159
of television watching enjoyment that I had, and then it

3048
02:26:36,200 --> 02:26:39,159
made me sad that I had spent so much fucking time.

3049
02:26:39,959 --> 02:26:44,200
Speaker 2: TV show that, yeah, because it's years, it's not a video,

3050
02:26:45,760 --> 02:26:48,520
yeah yeah, and it's like an time investment of my life.

3051
02:26:48,559 --> 02:26:50,239
I do add that up in terms of like, Okay,

3052
02:26:50,239 --> 02:26:52,959
I've been watching this for years. Oh it's hours of TV, sure,

3053
02:26:53,000 --> 02:26:55,479
but I've spent years thinking about it. And then here's

3054
02:26:55,520 --> 02:26:57,840
your answer they had with like Battlestar Galactica for sure,

3055
02:26:57,879 --> 02:26:59,879
where I'm like, oh, that was one of my favorite shows,

3056
02:26:59,879 --> 02:27:01,319
and it's like, oh, you just didn't have good answers

3057
02:27:01,360 --> 02:27:03,079
for all these things you wanted me to think about.

3058
02:27:03,120 --> 02:27:04,879
Why was I spending my time thinking about it?

3059
02:27:04,920 --> 02:27:08,319
Speaker 1: But you clearly weren't the worst part about not to

3060
02:27:08,559 --> 02:27:11,040
fucking get on the fuck how I Met Your Mother horse.

3061
02:27:11,559 --> 02:27:16,479
I can't respect when people don't have the the fucking

3062
02:27:16,760 --> 02:27:20,000
courage to stand by the decision because they made an

3063
02:27:20,120 --> 02:27:23,399
ending to that program that was would have been boring

3064
02:27:23,559 --> 02:27:26,239
but better, and they were like it'll be on the DVD,

3065
02:27:26,840 --> 02:27:30,000
which probably Oh really I met your mother? Oh they did?

3066
02:27:30,120 --> 02:27:33,559
Oh yeah, it's really annoying. I am.

3067
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:35,319
Speaker 4: I used to like start Trek a lot, and I

3068
02:27:35,360 --> 02:27:38,079
was excited with the Picard revival and like I didn't

3069
02:27:38,079 --> 02:27:41,520
stop watching immediately, but that whole first season was really weird.

3070
02:27:41,719 --> 02:27:46,120
They kept doing strange things and kind of gory things,

3071
02:27:46,319 --> 02:27:48,680
and they're like one scene where I had to watch

3072
02:27:48,719 --> 02:27:53,600
a guy while restrained, get his eyeball kind of plucked out.

3073
02:27:53,479 --> 02:27:55,559
Speaker 1: And then the re cut and like showed.

3074
02:27:55,280 --> 02:27:57,639
Speaker 4: It was like, oh, why am I watching this on

3075
02:27:57,719 --> 02:28:01,159
us Star Trek? It looks like a big like what

3076
02:28:01,280 --> 02:28:04,639
does even happen? What is going on anymore? It's like

3077
02:28:04,719 --> 02:28:07,319
it's hard to ever go back or tear again.

3078
02:28:08,520 --> 02:28:15,319
Speaker 1: That's tough. We've got one more email, Uno mass Hey

3079
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:18,959
bomb Gang, first time long time. Just wanted to shout

3080
02:28:18,959 --> 02:28:20,799
out the crew for doing an insane amount of work.

3081
02:28:21,079 --> 02:28:23,079
I love the addition of Mike manaughty and love it

3082
02:28:23,120 --> 02:28:32,079
even more when he's being a fuddy duddy, along with

3083
02:28:32,120 --> 02:28:35,559
the injection of youth from GB Kids is a Powerhouse

3084
02:28:35,639 --> 02:28:39,399
and Dan is dan parentheses super positive. Good stuff, Gang,

3085
02:28:39,799 --> 02:28:42,440
When did you realize your pet was smarter than you thought?

3086
02:28:42,719 --> 02:28:47,520
Cheer singular Jan from San Francisco, whoever that is.

3087
02:28:47,639 --> 02:28:50,399
Speaker 5: You don't know My dogs I'm smarter than my dogs.

3088
02:28:52,639 --> 02:28:56,079
Speaker 1: The no, I don't know.

3089
02:28:56,159 --> 02:28:58,479
Speaker 3: Gizmo seems like he knows what's going on there. You

3090
02:28:58,520 --> 02:29:03,959
know Razor laws, No, Razor smarter like Razor.

3091
02:29:04,200 --> 02:29:07,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, he's dads comes in with sane, But Gizmo

3092
02:29:07,600 --> 02:29:09,479
is just cute and dumb as rocks.

3093
02:29:09,680 --> 02:29:13,399
Speaker 1: Yeah. One time, like shortly after I moved into my

3094
02:29:13,520 --> 02:29:18,959
apartment in Providence, I set up my TV and then

3095
02:29:18,959 --> 02:29:22,399
I put the remote down, and then I lost the remote.

3096
02:29:22,479 --> 02:29:24,360
The remote was fucking gone, and I was kind of

3097
02:29:24,360 --> 02:29:26,399
just stracked because I, like was I had just moved

3098
02:29:26,399 --> 02:29:28,840
and didn't even really have the like the liquidity to

3099
02:29:28,879 --> 02:29:31,600
buy another TV remote, So I was kind of pissed.

3100
02:29:32,479 --> 02:29:35,760
And then eventually I got the I got the new remote,

3101
02:29:35,760 --> 02:29:37,520
and I put the batteries in and I put it

3102
02:29:37,559 --> 02:29:40,600
on the table and then I swear to fucking God,

3103
02:29:41,799 --> 02:29:43,719
ten minutes after I put the remote on the table,

3104
02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:46,760
Barley comes out with the remote in her mouth. This

3105
02:29:46,879 --> 02:29:49,879
dog does not carry things in her mouth. It is

3106
02:29:49,920 --> 02:29:52,920
the only time I've ever seen her do it. Offer

3107
02:29:52,959 --> 02:29:55,200
this dog a stick or a ball to play with.

3108
02:29:55,360 --> 02:29:59,120
She says, what do you think I am? Pull? What's this?

3109
02:30:00,399 --> 02:30:03,760
This is this? I watched television. I am not going

3110
02:30:03,799 --> 02:30:12,000
to Yeah, it is now stick in my mouth and no,

3111
02:30:12,200 --> 02:30:14,159
his dog fucking walks in with the remote in her

3112
02:30:14,159 --> 02:30:16,559
mouth and I'm like, you, motherfucker, like you could do

3113
02:30:16,680 --> 02:30:18,920
you can do so much thing, so many things. You

3114
02:30:18,959 --> 02:30:22,799
were actively making decisions and choices to not do the

3115
02:30:22,840 --> 02:30:24,680
things that I'm asking you to do. And I was like,

3116
02:30:24,760 --> 02:30:26,559
I respect you more this way.

3117
02:30:28,079 --> 02:30:30,959
Speaker 4: Yeah, that that person said a lot of nice things

3118
02:30:30,959 --> 02:30:31,520
about our show.

3119
02:30:31,559 --> 02:30:33,399
Speaker 1: I wonder, I wonder if we could get a check

3120
02:30:33,479 --> 02:30:35,200
back in next week after they listen to this.

3121
02:30:39,760 --> 02:30:40,440
Speaker 3: One way or another.

3122
02:30:41,479 --> 02:30:45,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think gang that is going to be it

3123
02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:49,479
for this week's edition of the Giant Bomb Cast. Don't

3124
02:30:49,799 --> 02:30:54,000
go anywhere though, known Tabby Touchy because Tam is going

3125
02:30:54,040 --> 02:30:58,000
to play South of Midnight in just a couple of minutes,

3126
02:30:58,040 --> 02:31:00,280
depending on how long this outro takes, and at this

3127
02:31:00,360 --> 02:31:02,959
rate that could take another forty minutes. You want to

3128
02:31:03,000 --> 02:31:08,559
play Joe played jelly House for the next fifteen minutes.

3129
02:31:08,879 --> 02:31:12,680
We're just going to be great. So yeah, don't don't

3130
02:31:12,799 --> 02:31:15,200
touch that tab No Tabby Touchy. Tim is going to

3131
02:31:15,239 --> 02:31:19,559
play South at midnight tomorrow and for the rest of

3132
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:22,399
the week. We've got game breaking news. We've got dump

3133
02:31:22,440 --> 02:31:28,399
truck on thys Day Over Grub episode three, tomorrow. Listen,

3134
02:31:29,879 --> 02:31:34,040
that fucker is dead. You know out there he's dead.

3135
02:31:34,479 --> 02:31:36,840
Why did you listen? Did you never love people like

3136
02:31:36,920 --> 02:31:42,120
you should? And that's not true. I've always I love people.

3137
02:31:42,239 --> 02:31:44,159
I've never said anything bad about people.

3138
02:31:48,680 --> 02:31:49,479
Speaker 5: I don't know what you did.

3139
02:31:51,319 --> 02:31:53,319
Speaker 1: The thing about people is he was with us for

3140
02:31:53,360 --> 02:31:56,239
so long, for so long, and that's why I love

3141
02:31:56,360 --> 02:32:02,639
him so much. Over So that's tomorrow over Grub.

3142
02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:07,520
Speaker 5: Yes, changing the time a little bit, Yeah in the day, Yeah,

3143
02:32:07,920 --> 02:32:08,600
one pm.

3144
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:11,159
Speaker 2: I think it's one huge Eastern time.

3145
02:32:11,319 --> 02:32:15,680
Speaker 1: We Eastern, okay. And then we've got Marvel Rivals season

3146
02:32:15,719 --> 02:32:18,559
two stuff popping off this week. We're gonna play a

3147
02:32:18,559 --> 02:32:21,799
little bit of blue prints. Uh and then on upf

3148
02:32:22,760 --> 02:32:26,399
should we announce it? Now? What what our plans are? Yeah,

3149
02:32:26,479 --> 02:32:32,079
let's do it? Opening a supermarket. Oh no, let's go back.

3150
02:32:32,319 --> 02:32:34,200
Remember when I said we might be out of here

3151
02:32:34,520 --> 02:32:36,719
and then the int the exit might take a long time.

3152
02:32:36,959 --> 02:32:40,879
Where are you getting wax? I'm joking, it was a

3153
02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:47,600
funny bit. Oh I'm sorry, Well, now you gotta go

3154
02:32:47,760 --> 02:32:50,559
get wax. But ye guilt them into getting wax. Now

3155
02:32:51,719 --> 02:32:54,840
we are opening a supermarket. We're gonna play Supermarket together

3156
02:32:54,920 --> 02:32:59,639
on UPF this weekend. Uh. Then, yeah, it's in your genes.

3157
02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:02,799
It's a blood record, the return of records market. That's

3158
02:33:02,840 --> 02:33:13,600
what the bloodline is actually about. Record acknowledge me as

3159
02:33:13,639 --> 02:33:17,520
I put a kit kat into the shopping cart and

3160
02:33:17,840 --> 02:33:22,760
Sean did a bunch of computer work recently downloaded all

3161
02:33:22,879 --> 02:33:25,879
of Steal My Sunshine, which is one of my favorite

3162
02:33:25,879 --> 02:33:29,799
GB features. Uh and now that's free for you on

3163
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:33,600
YouTube dot com. Uh, free for you and for anybody.

3164
02:33:33,719 --> 02:33:36,000
So just go go ahead and watch Steal My Sunshine.

3165
02:33:36,040 --> 02:33:38,159
It's a good game. I think that one's one of

3166
02:33:38,159 --> 02:33:41,639
my favorite ones because the cadence that you play it in.

3167
02:33:42,840 --> 02:33:44,399
None of you are playing it for long enough to

3168
02:33:44,440 --> 02:33:47,159
learn how the game works. And also you play it

3169
02:33:47,239 --> 02:33:52,399
so infrequently that you don't remember you you got to

3170
02:33:52,440 --> 02:33:56,319
play it, but Abby, Vinnie and Alex have no recollection

3171
02:33:56,479 --> 02:33:58,879
by the time it comes back around. So it's something

3172
02:33:58,959 --> 02:34:05,000
like the best memory. Yes, it was impossible. It's it's

3173
02:34:05,040 --> 02:34:08,280
one of my fucking favorites. So go go watch Steal

3174
02:34:08,360 --> 02:34:11,479
My Sunshine. And I think that's it. Thank you so

3175
02:34:11,559 --> 02:34:19,639
much for listening. So I think actually, you know what, Sean,

3176
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:23,040
just turn it off there, just don't even don't even

3177
02:34:23,079 --> 02:34:25,079
do anything, just kind of fade us out.