Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually
claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,
come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There
is no such thing as an expert when it comes
to bigfoot.
Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.
There is no hiding from them, There is no being
quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you
walk in the woods. Do you walk in their front
door thinking that you were going to surprise them? You're
only kidding yourself.
Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads
that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in
my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures
right now is by listening to and talking to those
that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and
experienced them in their own environment.
Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away
as to this topic to be an open door for
somebody to walk through, to be able to share their story,
a listening here, a support hold for those who have
held their own encounters with that which is not supposed
to emiss.
Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes people, there is something
out there. All of these thousands of people that have
seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.
There are some very reputable good people out there that
have seen something.
Speaker 3: Patrick Guy's are.
Speaker 4: Going, Buddy, that's going, well. How y'all doing.
Speaker 3: Doing good? Doing good? Patrick is out in Louisiana, down
in the and to buy you. Like I said, we've
had him on before. Great guy, he knows this stuff,
and uh, just we're happy to have you back, buddy.
I appreciate it.
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm glad to be back. It's it's been but
it's like we've been playing flip phone tag or something,
you know, hit or miss.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but uh but we got you here tonight,
so uh we get as much out of you as
we can, if you don't mind, Just to remind the
folks of the first for how long you've been doing
this and what gut you started? If it was an encounter,
go over the encounter, just you know, walk us into it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely an encounter because I never was
I never ever wanted Bigfoot to exist, all right, It
was not a subject. It wasn't anything real to me
until two thousand and three I'd got into I mean,
I grew up hunting, fishing pretty much. Uh, you know,
living off what we you know, raised and killed. But uh,
I got more serious into it. I'm I'm a third
generation tracker, and I got into primitive, primitive living skills,
primitive survival and uh and I'm a I'm a primitive
living skills instructor. And and while I was out honing
my own skills, I ran into something that wasn't supposed
to be there. Okay, uh going out applying uh skills
in areas in the far back, fringed areas that people
don't normally go, Hello Detroit, Daniel and uh and and
and it was a shock to me that this, you know, this,
this thing isn't supposed to exist. So uh, I tried
to debunk it at first. I spent a lot of
years trying to debunk it. And uh, well what happened?
Speaker 3: And tell you what, what did you see?
Speaker 4: Two thousand and three, I got Uh, I came across
a female bigfoot and uh she chased me out of
the woods for over a mile. Wow, Okay, I got her.
I saw her, you know, I'm I'm coming up through
the bottom and uh she's paralleling me. And I see
this bigfoot leaping from behind one tree to the next,
and she's a midleap when I look at her, and
it shocked me, you know. And so she paralleled me
all it to a road and I turned, and when
I turned, I took off running and she when she
caught up with me, and we're running side by side,
twelve feet apart down this dim road, okay, and she
chased she. That's the way it was for the next
mile until I made it my truck, you know. And uh,
and I just chalked it up to weird a word
encounter that no way happened. There's no way that happened.
And then I had another encounter six years later, and uh,
and that convinced me that there is a phenomenon that
will make you think there's a big foot in the woods.
And then I went to trying to debunk them. I
spent years working on debunking them, only to prove that
they are real, their living, breathing being. And uh, and
that's when I really started sing and tracking these beings,
you know, because all all the average questions, you know,
if you want to study something a being like this
is just just like studying any other being. You have
to know how close can you get to without spooking it?
You know? Can you track it?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 4: You know? How does it use the land? How where
is this bedding areas? Where does it? Where is it
called the home side at? You know? And so I
spent a lot of years tracking and learning about about
all that, and I tracked this one. I really think
I had a I've had a lot of years to
mow this over. And I really think that she had
been she had been alone a long time. And and
these these beings are extremely social. They want an interaction,
and I just think she wanted some kind of attention
from me, you know. And uh, and she and I
actually got to She and I actually got to know
each other very well. You know. It's not like we
set we sat down and shared apples or anything. But
I knew she existed. Yeah, I knew she was there.
She knew that I was there. And we'd sit across
fire from each other, not you know, I'd knock at
her and she had knocked back. And eventually she wound
up having a little boy. And and now there's her
a little boy, which the little boy's a little more.
She has a little girl now, I named Samantha, and
you know, of course obviously are the big males around,
but he's so elusive. The big males are the hardest
ones to try to track down. But uh, if you
find a big male track, it's on accident. But uh, yeah,
I spent a lot. I spent over sixteen years tracking
and learning this one group and taking what I learned
from that group and find them in other areas. And
right now I know where eight family groups are and
then one that lives alone, so nine different areas that
I know they're in. Now.
Speaker 3: Is this first group that you're talking about that you
got your start with the female that you're ran across,
would that be the mother of little Sam?
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a Sasha, Little Sam, Big Sam, the male
who has over a nineteen inch track, and then now
little Samantha who has a seven and a half inch truck.
But I learned, I got a lot of insight from
tracking them on how they use areas, how close I
can do Her kids know you and trust you Little Sam,
and I had a pretty good report going until he
got shot.
Speaker 3: Remember you telling that that story the last time you
were on here? Do you mind briefly going back over that.
Speaker 4: I got a question for you, Patrick, go ahead.
Speaker 5: The one that you said that you said that there's
one that's by itself. Is that a male that's by itself?
Speaker 4: To understand it's a female just by looking the track
only I found his track and I got yelled at
butte And typically typically a female bigfoot track is slenderer.
It's it's you know, a sixteen and half inch track
and more slender and female. The large males are almost
almost square, how wide they are, how they have a
much wider heel, a much wider foot. And you know,
I found them up. I actually have a picture on
my Facebook when it's twenty two point six inches long
of a big male.
Speaker 5: So you believe it could be that one myself?
Speaker 3: Is it?
Speaker 5: Is it roughly aggressed because usually but down here, most
of the one of that weeks to know that or
what we've heard if they're by their said they're using
a rogue in a kind of more aggressive more.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, every geographic area may have their differences,
but down here, what I found that the more there
are of them, all right, say, like you go out
and you're doing investigation, you have one coming gruff on you.
There means there's more than that one there, and that
gives them that much more confidence to be groff with you.
The ones that alone, they'll stay out away from you.
You know, there'll be a little more timid even though
they know they got you if they want you, they're
not going to be as aggressive in my area. You know,
at where I've been at in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi. Well,
he was, he was, he was, he was little, and
every time I go up there. You know, we went
up there and they have to study you just like
you study them, because they have to know how to
avoid you. They have to know your strengths and weaknesses.
So he's been studying me. Well, then you know, he's
hit puberty and he's running through this bottom and I'm
in there and I'm actually got set up where I
can get a video of him, shot him or shot
at him. I didn't get to examining. But that changed
everything for a very long time, and to this day,
he doesn't. The relationship he and I had is different.
Mine will migrate within their area from what I from
what I have found they have. You know, it takes
a certain amount of square miles to feed an animal
or a bean and they discerned that out and they
have their area of about sixteen to eighteen square my radius, Okay,
that's a radius. So within that area they will migrate.
They actually have a winter home in a summer home,
so in the winter home they're in one area and
in the summertime they're on another area. But they will
head north into the northern parts of their of their
realm to do what they need to do there as well.
But as far as taking off across country, I have
not witnessed that. Yeah, little Sam come and jump at
them road and that road hunter shot it, shot at
him or shot him, and it changed the relationship. But
I was around him this past fall, my tracking partner.
I went out and I didn't experiments just how he'd
respond to me, because you know, we've been we've been
around each other, but it's not like he comes in
and just stays like he used to. But so we
went out and put her chairs in the dark, no weapons,
and just and I did a couple of knocks. He
did he he yeeled back and he came in in
the starlight. I'm watching him out between the trees. And
he's not a little guy more. He's seven foot tall
a little more than that and skinny. And he's walking
through the trees and walks up between the trees and
he's looking at my tracking partner I from around tree
like this, you know. He hangs out about, you know,
a few minutes, and then he goes on and I
tried to walk back at him, but then he just
woked back one time and he was gone. That was it,
and that was his past fall. But I started having
trucks follow me around up there. Okay, So I had
I had a black uh, there's a black Ford truck
blacked out windows with a Ham radio set up in
the back of it follow me in around basically, well,
I'm not I'm trying to not jump conclusions, but it
was weird. That's twice I went up there to go track,
and twice I had this black, blacked out truck with
a Ham radio wind up right behind me, you know,
about about one hundred yards watching me, you know, and
then followed me around. And there there was another white
Dodge Crew cab and there was a cage in between
the front and back seat, okay, and it was running
along with this black truck. And so, yeah, I don't
I'm not gonna. It's it's hard to you know. It
takes all of me to go in and track these things.
It takes all of me, you know. And and I
still missed the off and I cannot go in there
and have people follow me around and and and potentially
cause harm to this group that I've been tracking for
all these years, you know.
Speaker 5: So it sounds it sounds like you've got the government
that's found out about you and wanting to check out
and you see what you're doing that.
Speaker 4: It sounds like I mean, well, I saw I saw
two airplanes, a helicopter, a black truck twice, and a
white dodge with a cage between the seats. I went
up there last weekend and I didn't run any of
the of that. But it's also so rained out and
washed out. I couldn't find the tracks either. But you know,
I hadn't been up there since in the summer.
Speaker 5: You know, you kind of been tracking these and so
close to these the ones, have you noticed like what
kinds of I probably asked this whatever guess we've had
so far, it's been that been that area. Have you
smelled have you noticed a smell with him which I
know been Louisiana. There's you know, swamps in their lab.
But have you had to smell with them and everything?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I bust a little sam on my back trail.
He was tracking me. I was tracking him, but then
he circles around. He's tracking me, and I busted him
on my back trail and I got within twenty yards
of him. He's on one side ridge and I'm one another.
And the wind, you know, they really have to pay
attention to wind. But yeah, I got that smell, but
I really it was pretty warm when I smelled him,
So I really, I really attribute that smell to just
body odor and musk. You know, they're getting hot and sweaty.
He doesn't wor the older. If I didn't wear the older,
and I'd probably smell way worse than he did. You know,
I did a sixteen year year study by myself with
these beans, not going to tell anybody about anything I
do for myself, so I could learn. I learned how
they use the land so that I could skirt around
them and not bother them. And I could still use
the land too. Okay, I'm not I'm not pro killed.
I'm not out to kill them. I could, but I
don't think i'd make it out of the woods alive
anyway if I didn't. You know, those beings have much
greater capabilities than we do. All right, They're gonna see
you coming a lot sooner than what you're gonna even
have an idea that they're there. You know, I'm pretty
good in the woods, and I can track up within
about a quarter mile of them without them knowing. But
any closer than that they know I'm there, you know,
And so the best thing I can do if I
want to have an interaction is just to stop, sit
down and relax and let them come to me. You know.
That's because because you know they're they're choosing. You know,
you don't just run up well, you know, it takes
a huge mistake in one of their parts for you
to walk up on one. You know, every time someone says, well,
I walked up on one is a huge mistake on
this part. And this it happens, but it's not the norm.
If you know, normally, if you get up on one,
it because it let you. Yeah, and and learning that
I've learned that if I get into the area and
just stop and start picking up acorns and looking at acorns,
and picking up sticks. They'll circle around me, especially little Sam.
They'll circle around me and they'll whoop. You know, hey,
what's up? You know, we'll wave at each other.
Speaker 3: You know, do you do you get?
Speaker 5: Do you do get them? With them?
Speaker 4: I haven't because I haven't known what to give them anything.
Anything I give them could be horriful to them. You know,
I could have I didn't have a cold, and I
give them something. Guess what he has the cold now,
and I could kill him. You know, I don't know
what their immune system is. And I'm certainly not gonna
give them food. I have thought about giving them food,
but I don't want anything that size, with that kind
of capabilities associating me and food together. Okay. I actually
have a running joke with my with my tracking partner.
You know, we go out and I'll say, hey, go
put this honey bunt on your head and go sit
in the dark. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But uh yeah, that's yeah, that's the downside to giving
them food. You know that That's what I've I've always thought,
you know, it might be a good way to build
a rapport with these things that, you know, to build
that relationship. But we're not going to be around forever.
And who's to say if if I'm leaving them. If
I go out and I leave them a bag full
of McDonald's cheeseburgers once a week for five years and
then I have a heart attack or something, I'm in
the hospital, have a car wreck, or if I die
and I'm not leaving those hamburgers anymore, what's gonna happen? Yeah,
news for somebody.
Speaker 4: Look someone or or yourself. I mean, if you skip
a week or two and then because when you come back. Yeah,
So what I have considered doing, because little Sam loves
watching me fish. You know, probably half a dozen times
I've had him come up and watch your fish. And
what I thought about doing is going out catching a
fish and go hanging on a tree down wind about
sixty yards that's where he likes to hang at, just
taking hanging on the limb and go back, keep fishing.
And you know, and he knows it's from me, you know,
And and he understood what it took to get that,
He understood where it came from. And it's probably something
he could do himself if he really wanted to. You know,
I have considered that.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.
Speaker 3: But the that were born. We'll be right back. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I learned quite quite a bit about tracking them, a
lot of uh, a lot of behavioral observations, uh, their
capabilities and the observations of them, uh their knocks. I
have a rudimentary knowledge of their knocks, how they use them,
why they use them, and uh. And I went to
other areas and found other beings in other areas, and
I used them to experiment with. I don't experiment with
my whether my core group or my control group, you know,
because what I go do and experiment with I learned there.
I know it also applies to the same beings that's
in my area. That their capabilities and and a lot
of the same thought processes, even though if individually there.
Speaker 3: Or the orbs others around them.
Speaker 4: I've never seen an ORB in my life ever, you know,
I've never seen an accurate representation of an order as
far as uh, as far as a picture or anything goes.
Speaker 3: Mhm. Okay, now switching gears a little bit. You uh
were talking before we came on, and you had mentioned
that since your last visit with this you have had
three more encounters. Would you like to go over those?
Speaker 4: Yeah, third week of August all last summer, I tracked
for two ladies that were doing a private experiment with
us with a family, you know an area I know
there's a family app. They wanted to go in and
do an experiment, and I told, I told him where
to go to. This is where you go. Gave them
a GPS location, and their first trip there, they're casting tracks, okay,
and then they go and they set up their experiment
and they're running this experiment. But they don't want, you know,
they don't want to just walk in on experiment and say, well,
you know, Squatch did this. So they had me come
in and track for them and debunk it. It was
any human doing this, you know. And I would track,
you know, if I'm tracking a you know, an eleven
inch you know, juvenile track going in there and play
with that experiment while a seventeen inch track is thirty
yards away on a trail, then I know what's there.
It's barefoot, you know, it's it has all the indications
of being bigfoot, you know. Now you know, and I
have to, you know, if there's any boot tracks in there.
That's what they want to know. And of course, you know,
no human found. It was far back off in the
bush enough and up the creek enough for there was
some you know, and it didn't skew their findings. You know,
when I can go in there and say, okay, I
tracked the bigfoot into your into your experiment, and then
they'll go in and check the experiment. Okay, this was moved,
this was changed, this is cool to part rearranged. These
are gone or something's been added, you know. And uh,
and it was a really cool thing. So we go
up there and we check it the third week in August,
and they wanted to look for tracks. And I knew
about where to go tracking at because I heard something
walk up there. You know. Now the norm for bigfoot
is for them to leave, you know, if you start
getting close. But I have you know, this is got dark.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 4: A queam. It's in my truck. Actually, I mean I
got a I got a spotlight and it's on the
ground and I'm cracking in a in a zigzag pattern
back and forth in the sweeping patterns what it is tracking,
And then I start noticing these two, these two sets
of pupils off my left knee, about six feet off
of me, and so I hit them in the eyes
with that queueing, and it looks right at me and
it stands up, and as it's getting taller than me,
I'm starting to back up, and because it's literally six
feet from me, and now I'm looking to dead and
eight and the dead in the eye, and it's getting
even taller, and so I'm actually backpedal about the length
of a truck and a run into the one of
the ladies behind me, and I throw my arm out.
I said, don't don't eye shine seven foot right there?
That eye shine hit seven feet and it froze. And
there's a little one there that's about four and a
half foot tall that I'm not worried about. This is
big one that I'm watching. And that big one started
turning real slow, just real slow, like you don't see me,
You don't see me. You don't see me, you know,
because when I shine its eyes and I'm shining this,
you couldn't see the big foot. All you show. All
you could see was his eyes shine.
Speaker 3: And what color did you say the eye shine?
Speaker 4: Was the eye shine if the pupil was green green?
About that big a round.
Speaker 3: Now, this guy just asked, when you look into their eyes,
what what do you see? Uh, I mean, like, what
color eye shine do you tend to see? Do you
see the same color eye shine all the time or
does it vary.
Speaker 4: Without light? I've seen their eyes shine and it's and
it was really the reflection was written. Uh the fire. Huh,
that's without light, without light. Now now here's all right. Well,
we're in southern Arkansas and I've got a camera behind
me with ir lights. Then the r emitters are red
and we just we me and my tracking partner tracked
this thing down and now it's in the middle of
a field about one hundred and fifteen yards out and
we're looking at it in the starlight with the red eyes.
And I looked behind me and the mirrors on the
camera are red too, So I don't know if it
was catching because I know on camera, I got a
camera shining past me and you can see its eye lights,
its eye shine in the field. Okay, my partner, I
are looking at this thing through naked eyes with red
eye shine, and the camera is looking past me and
showing the eye shine in the field. So that was
red eye shine the one I saw in the fire light.
It was just reflecting fire. The one that I saw
and had a pin light in its eyes at fifteen yards.
It was just reflecting my pen light.
Speaker 5: Well, the one of these, the ones that you're I'm
more to ask a question for more actually from Jen Oak.
So it wanted to kind of help weighing out here
because I'm sending him all kinds.
Speaker 4: Of things I wasn't I wasn't done.
Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Sorry, there's something I haven't discussed ever yet about that
thing's eyes at six feet with QB Okay, Well, I
can see the green pupils and and they're looking where
I'm shining in the light at They're trying to see
what I'm seeing. And I thought it was just an animal.
I hid it in the eyes when it looked at me,
the green pupils, and then you saw amber irises. But
then when the eyes looked dead at me, there was
almost a starburst shape a little deeper in the eye
that was also amber, so it was pupil iris. And
then behind that was a starburst shape, I mean literally
like a star. You know, you've seen those lockwashers, the
old lockwashers that were star shaped, you know, on the outside.
It was literally just about that shape behind but larger
than the iris, and it was just about if I
had the guess, I would say about eight to ten
millimeters deeper than the iris. And I've been rolled, I've
been working, I've been I've been wrapping my head around
this for a while because I don't I don't toast
up out there unless I have a real good grass
bum it. But yeah, that's what I saw when I
shined it in the eyes with a huge que beam.
Speaker 5: At six feet. That's pretty cool. That's more detailed eyes
than we've hadn't ever.
Speaker 4: Had heard of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.
Speaker 5: That's pretty awesome. But the ones that that you the
stories that you got those and the ones that you
do track. Uh, she actually asked, you know what type
of bigfoot do you claim that you might think they are,
because that everybody has their different things that there's different
types of you know which I can see that you
have your West Coast, we have our East Coast, and
you know what things we have our midd Coast and
we have our North America.
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, people call we have top one, type two,
type three's do you do you buy into that? And
if so, what type are you do you tend to
deal with? Then where you're at.
Speaker 4: I have looked into how many different types of bigfoot
people say there are. I can only go by what
I've witnessed, and and and and what I have witnessed
is just one type. Other types. I have not run
into them. Now, I will say that there should be
different types between the southern United States and in Canada,
just because you know, larger body animal survived the cold
better and smaller bodied animals survive in the South and
the heat better. Just kind of just like it, Just
like white dell deer and meal deer. There should be
a variation among them, but I haven't witnessed it.
Speaker 3: Have you ever tried talking to him? Jen's asking some
great questions and uh and making some people laugh to now.
Speaker 4: I've said, I did say a couple of words to
him when he creeped me out a little bit, you know,
because I made a back of my truck and I
did a whoop, and he did a whoop, and I said,
just checking, and I waved at him. You know, well,
I speak Native American sign language, so most of my
gestures of them is in you know, it'll be hand
you know, hey, good to see you. You know, I'll
use my hands a lot more so. I think that's
a that is more intelligible and easier to interpret than
what my words are.
Speaker 5: Freture, I got this question. Is it's in my head
and I know we've been asked it. I know you've
probably been asked many times and AUDI probably be wanting
to know it to you. With you tracking these the
creatures and the family and everything, do you have any pictures?
Do I have pictures of of the of Samy Sam
and all that he Do you have any type of
or is it just been one of those that you
just take out just your tracking, like hunting kind of thing.
Speaker 4: They do not like I've tried to get pictures of them,
but they do not like technology.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: There was twice once when I was set up to
get a video of them, but he got shot.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: After that, That next spring, I'm on a levey and
I'm fishing and I look at the end of the
levee and he's standing about one hundred and fifty yards
down in that levee and I'm like, huh. So I
set my pole and my box down, I reach you
my phone. He's gone. Now I tested this theory. I
took this laptop and a recorder and put it on
the hood of my truck and called him in. And
little sam come out there beating on his chest, which
I got the audio of Little Samantha. She takes off,
screaming and running, which I got the audio of. And
Sasha throws the rock and hits my recorder dead on,
and the rock hits my recorder, bounces across the hood
of my truck and lands on the gravel, falling between
the grill guard and the grill of my truck. On audio,
you could hear the click when it hits the hits
the recorder, and then the rock bouncing across, and that
was that was they were upset because I brought technology there.
They watch what's in your hands and they hate technology.
So I have pictures of their of their hand grabs
where they're grabbing a sapling and stepping down into a creek.
I have the the pictures of their tracks crossing creeks.
I have their tracks in mud, washed out and fresh.
And uh, I have a picture of little Samantha's hands
in a mud pie that she was playing with her
actual hand or the hand print, the handprint, Okay, I
wasn't thinking that the hand.
Speaker 3: Let me poaching.
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, I did snap a picture of one. I
was just fishing and I smoking down a creek in
the boat and I look and I see it and
I grab my phone and I snap a picture as
a blob squatch. You know, it was running, I was shaking.
I don't put blob squatches out there if it's not
that geo quality. Yeah, I'll a picture of a good
physical evidence.
Speaker 3: I'm so tired of seeing all those pictures. Man, if
I got to count red circles, I really I don't
want to look at the picture, you know, and that
might make a lot of people mad. And I'm sorry,
but I'm not going to share red circles anymore. If
it's not apparent, and if you can't look at it
and see that there is a shape of a person there,
at least the shape of a person, I'm not going
to share it anymore. Miss Karen has asked this question
a couple of times and told her it might be
best for Miss Janice Carter to ask her, but we
would ask you to if you knew. She said, How
big are they when they're born? Can they walk right away?
How fast do they grow compared to humans like I
don't know how I'm much interaction you've had with babies.
Speaker 4: I have the answer, I have some answers to that, okay,
But being a tracker, I go by the by their
foot size. Oh okay, okay, by their foot size. Their
foot is a three and a half to four inch
long foot when they're born, because they're toddling at at
by the time they're they're at there, By the time
they're a size five, they're still toddling. Mam is still
picking up putting them down. You know, if you see
a five size five track, it hits the ground, it
takes three or four steps, then mom's got it again,
you know, and it'll go another fifty to two hundred
yards and then you'll see it get put down again
a couple more steps. Now, by the time a size six,
the size six track, they're getting around pretty good. After
size six, they're not toddling. They're they're on the run.
And uh, I know little Sam at a size eight
was uh you know, between four and four and a
half heet tall. Okay, I know he hit puberty at
four years of age. Okay, at four years of age,
he hit puberty.
Speaker 3: How big was he at four years of age.
Speaker 4: Uh about five foot five, about five foot five to
five foot eight at four years of old age four years.
Speaker 3: Old, almost six foot tall at four years old.
Speaker 4: But he was bigger than me. He was you know, muscular,
he was wider, he was heavier than me. Now, if
you do the math on that, the average human hits
puberty at twelve years of age. Okay, so that is
a three squat years three squash years per human year. Okay,
So at age six, he's equivalent to an eighteen year old.
Right now, he's seven, and he's you know, seven foot
two around there and skinny, you know, like an eighteen
year old kid would be.
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense though. I
mean if you think about it, I mean four, could
you imagine a four year old kid six foot tall?
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, goods he comes, well he comes duck
walking in under all that brush while fishing and set there.
You I swear, you know, you could just about feel
his breath on the back of my pants, on my
right pants, like I guess he was breathing watching me fish,
you know. So you know, I've had I've had some
pretty close encounters with him, but they do not like
technology and when I'm fishing, I can't touch anything. I
can't reach in my pocket, I can't grab my knife,
I can't touch my tackle box. I just my fishing
pole and fishing. That's it, because anything you touch or
grab is suspicious of you know, And I don't blame them.
You know, look at all the handheld devices they see
in the woods that are made for killing or cutting
or skinning something.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, you're right. That's why you know. We we
had a discussion among some of our members this past
week about uh, the carrying of long guns and long weapons,
and we as a rule for for our group, we
we don't allow it. We don't allow people to our
investigators to carry long guns or like bow and arrows
or anything like that because they I really feel like
they know what a weapon is. A handgun, a rambow, knife,
anything like that. You can keep on your hip and
keep covered up. Car as many as you want. So
just leave your you leave your ar or your crossbow
or whatever it is. Leave it in a tent. You know,
that's when you're gonna need it anyway, if they come
in there and camp on you.
Speaker 4: Well, I have carried some firepower. But it's because as
a tracker. I didn't always get to choose the the
ones I'm gonna go and interact with. And I had
I had this person say, yeah, man, this thing came
running up and was screaming and throwing stuff and uh
and was being aggressive and it's running a lot of
people off, you know, or whatever. And and so I've
carried you know, I have carried some firepower in with
me in a sketchy situation. But normally I have a knife,
you know, My normal thing is just a knife.
Speaker 3: Detroit Daniel here has a really good question that I've
been meaning to get up here. So most animals don't
change by what part of the US they're in, Why
you sasquatch attitudes differ so much? That's that's a really
good question. I've thought about that myself.
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.
Speaker 3: But the Big Flipper, we'll be right back. As you
hear the ones up north and like the Pacific north
Northwest are more laid back. They're bigger, but they're more
laid back. You know. There you don't hear as many
aggressive accounts they down Texas. Down south where we're at,
you hear in Florida, you hear aggressive behavior. Why is
that if it's the same.
Speaker 4: Animal, different plans. Now, you know, there's never never and
there's never always with sasquatch okod, my group is pretty docile,
you know. Uh, you know, there's there's four of them
in that group. They're pretty pretty laid back.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 4: You go to another group that has attitude, and it's
just simply like save, my family is genetically prone to
have a certain laid back attitude. Another family may be
genetic program genetically uh prone to having not so laid
back attitudes, you know. And so you have not only
do you have individual tendencies inside of a clan and behaviors,
you'll also have uh clanned clan differences as far as
attitude and all that goes as well. Now my personal
feeling as far as what I've heard of for what
the the accounts I've heard the uh, the ones in
the south and east of the of of of America
are actually more docile than the ones out towards where
you have all that land that they can escape into
after doing something to you.
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think, I think when I think when
they give him a reward, because I think he has
got the most questions being asked in are any of
our shows.
Speaker 5: I think he's blown Janis out of the water. I
can't keep up with all these.
Speaker 3: I can't either. They're firing them, firing them off at him.
Speaker 4: Do I have time to take a short break?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take take your break, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Buddy, I'll be right back. Guys.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, that's awesome questions.
Speaker 5: I can't keep dude, I can't keep up with I'm
sending so many texts Wayne hit the times because on
purpose weird. I mean, there's a line of them. I mean,
and it's like and they're all great questions, they really are.
They're all some awesome questions. Yeah, we might have to
have him on for a questionnaire show or something.
Speaker 3: For a round table or something like that. We're coming
up on an hour, so, uh, he's got a few
pictures that he sent me to that that we can
go over.
Speaker 5: So, yeah, who you find jan You are not nowhere?
You were nowhere behind girl. Oh my word, there's a track.
I'm saying that for sure.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just going over some of these pictures that
you said, the tracks mainly, and you told me what
each one was. But go ahead and talk about him.
Speaker 4: That is a small juvenile track that I was tracking
on private property. Uh, dang, that's what you want. That's
a juvenile. And you see how why that is about. Yeah,
now you can see my boot track. It's only about
half the size of my boot and I wear a
size twelve.
Speaker 5: Okay, now I see it, I see it.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 4: So that's a six and a half inch track, juvenile.
And just how wide it is, I would say, that's
gonna be a little mill.
Speaker 5: That's a big foot.
Speaker 4: That's a that's the same juvenile, same individual. Two hundred
yards down. I picked some of the pine stroy out
of the track and took a picture of it. Same individual.
Now that track is the same individual, and it's on
a corridor. There's a corridor that run that runs through
the woods and uh. And that that's the track. That's
a larger track. You can see the toe of my
moccasin down on the four on the left bottom, left
end corner. Yeah that's mama.
Speaker 3: Okay. And you said this was the corridor.
Speaker 4: That's the corridor facing south. Uh yeah, facing south. You
can see I actually I was actually there when it
went through, knocking them limbs you see on the ground. Yeah,
you see, you see how the trees are wedged to
the side as they went through pushing. Yeah, that's that's
just Now, there's a story behind this these pictures. And
while I only got a couple of pictures on that corridor,
I was getting growled at.
Speaker 3: Ah. Now was this in the same area?
Speaker 4: That is in the same area that is about a
hundred yards off the corridor as you go into where
I camp at. Okay, And and that wasn't like that. This,
that wasn't like that just a month before that because
that group of trees, that's the group of trees I
was going behind to use as a latrin at a
primitive encampment. Okay, I come back and that tree is
twisted and broke down just outside the camp.
Speaker 3: That's crazy, all right, Patrick got.
Speaker 5: I know I asked Jennis this question about the males,
and this is from one of the other years.
Speaker 3: Let's share this because I really want I want Patrick's
to see this. This guess ever so knowledgeable. Thanks so
much for the show. I told you guys that we
get asked all the time for when Patrick's coming back,
so he's very knowledgeable.
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure, Karen, I do this to support the
the and further the effort of the subject of study.
That's why I do this also support to support the community, lead.
Speaker 3: And ask you dirty question, but try to try to
word it. You know, I'm just gonna I'm reading.
Speaker 4: It's not just me.
Speaker 3: I mean, we're over a thousand subscribers now, so we're
being looked at closely on the stuff. I don't know
if you've got miss Jennis show.
Speaker 5: When I asked her about the male part, this one
was about, Uh, this question is asking if if actually
females do do they have a monthly thing? Do they
have a period like I think they do?
Speaker 3: Animals? Do you know you have covered that? Yeah, Jane
talked about that.
Speaker 4: I have no idea. I haven't dated one.
Speaker 3: I'm on here.
Speaker 5: You know, I'll ask it for them. I mean, I said, well, yeah,
Jen JS goes into great detail about that.
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Patrick.
Speaker 4: That was that was like a no goes on for
men when I was married. You know, I'm certainly not
going to chase the Sasquatch down and say, excuse me, ma'am,
are you on the period? You don't have a microphone
in my hand. I like to interview about this. I
don't know you know I've been silly. I'm being silly,
but I honestly don't know.
Speaker 3: Uh, leave it to wolves to come up with these.
Speaker 4: I well, I've been asked about their breeding. They're breeding
times and breeding seasons, and I don't know. I really
couldn't tell you if they are like us, where they
could they have a cycle like us to where at
any month they could breed, or they actually have a
time of year. I don't know. I can say most
of the time when I'm finding the young juvenal, when
I find a five inch track, it's a toddler and
it's springtime. I've noticed that.
Speaker 5: Bob cat On asking that.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, I was worried because I was
thinking there's a red rocket or something coming.
Speaker 3: No, have you ever gotten gifted from them, buying wrapping
sticks anything like that?
Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, most of what you learn is in retrospect.
In this subject, you know, you'll go and you'll have
an experience, and and sometimes as it is happening, I
can I can discern it out accurately, but then you know,
or a certain percent of it, a certain percentage of it,
I can discern that accurately at that time, but it's
later on that you really that things really like, oh
that's what that meant. Well, Sasha left me a pixekull, okay,
and I believe it's a knocking. I believe it's what
she takes her and knocks on, you know. And I
didn't take it. I didn't take the pig skull because
I just got out of the hospital. I'd had a
bad staff infection. I wasn't supposed to live over, but
I did. And I got out of the hospital, and
I was really real funny about germs, and especially a
fresh pig skull, because hauling halling hogs is how I
got the infection in my leg. So I rolled it over,
I looked at and I lifted there and it was
gone the next day. And I hope, I hope I
didn't insult. I wish i'd have grabbed a plastic bagg
or gloves or something that picked it up. But you know, yeah,
so that has happened.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, uh, we're gone over an hour here. That's
about time to wrap it up, buddy. I appreciate you
coming back on or do it like like everyone saying,
very very formative and you know this is your second
time and something tells me. You know, we'd like to
have you back for number three if you'd be willing.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's there's two encounters we didn't get to.
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. We uh time all these questions.
I mean, we got these questions coming at us.
Speaker 4: I don't mind. There there they are why we're here
doing the show exactly.
Speaker 3: You know that that's the beauty of doing a live
show instead of a recorded show, because the you know,
people get to ask questions like this, and you know
that's why we're trying to do two a week now too,
you know, to get more more opportunity. But yeah, we'll
have you back to go over those other encounters. And
I really do appreciate you coming back and uh and
hanging out with us. Buddy.
Speaker 4: Oh, thanks for inviting me.
Speaker 3: All right, buddy, you have a good night and we
will catch you later.
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Speaker 7: Through the woods, the pine trees sway, shadows long at
the end of day, weetfoots call on the whispering breeze.
Secrets kept by an shoot trees, dog man house, being
foo echoes in the silent too.
Speaker 8: Tracks.
Speaker 7: We fine, but answers none.
Speaker 8: A hunt for truth. That's just the gun.
Speaker 7: We're searching past the fire light. Four creatures hidden out
of sight in the forest. Hardware shadows lay seeking seecrets
in the twilight through the fog a shape did gly.
Speaker 8: Skin walker.
Speaker 7: I saw wide legends of Oh, we chase to night
in the dark, our lanterns bright by the creek, quil
water spill, whispers ry the windsow chill forest, deep man
tails on top.
Speaker 8: In this land, the myths of O.
Speaker 7: We're searching past the fire light full creatures hidden out
of sight in the forest hard where shadows lay, seeking
seeing chrits in the twilight break