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Speaker 1: And these people that claim or carry themselves without actually

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claiming to be an expert, a bigfoot expert. I mean,

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come on, what the hell is a bigfoot expert? There

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is no such thing as an expert when it comes

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to bigfoot.

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Speaker 2: They know in an instant that you were in the woods.

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There is no hiding from them, There is no being

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quiet or sneaking up on them. As soon as you

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walk in the woods. Do you walk in their front

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door thinking that you were going to surprise them? You're

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only kidding yourself.

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Speaker 1: We have got to get it out of our heads

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that anecdotal evidence is not evidence. The best way, in

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my opinion, that we have to learn about these creatures

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right now is by listening to and talking to those

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that have experiperience them, those who have witnessed them and

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experienced them in their own environment.

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Speaker 2: We do what we do to try to bring away

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as to this topic to be an open door for

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somebody to walk through, to be able to share their story,

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a listening here, a support hold for those who have

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held their own encounters with that which is not supposed

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to emiss.

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Speaker 1: We've got to open our eyes people, there is something

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out there. All of these thousands of people that have

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seen something. They're not all lined, they're not all crazy.

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There are some very reputable good people out there that

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have seen something.

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Speaker 3: Patrick Guy's are.

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Speaker 4: Going, Buddy, that's going, well. How y'all doing.

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Speaker 3: Doing good? Doing good? Patrick is out in Louisiana, down

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in the and to buy you. Like I said, we've

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had him on before. Great guy, he knows this stuff,

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and uh, just we're happy to have you back, buddy.

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I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm glad to be back. It's it's been but

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it's like we've been playing flip phone tag or something,

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you know, hit or miss.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, but uh but we got you here tonight,

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so uh we get as much out of you as

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we can, if you don't mind, Just to remind the

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folks of the first for how long you've been doing

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this and what gut you started? If it was an encounter,

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go over the encounter, just you know, walk us into it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was definitely an encounter because I never was

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I never ever wanted Bigfoot to exist, all right, It

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was not a subject. It wasn't anything real to me

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until two thousand and three I'd got into I mean,

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I grew up hunting, fishing pretty much. Uh, you know,

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living off what we you know, raised and killed. But uh,

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I got more serious into it. I'm I'm a third

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generation tracker, and I got into primitive, primitive living skills,

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primitive survival and uh and I'm a I'm a primitive

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living skills instructor. And and while I was out honing

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my own skills, I ran into something that wasn't supposed

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to be there. Okay, uh going out applying uh skills

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in areas in the far back, fringed areas that people

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don't normally go, Hello Detroit, Daniel and uh and and

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and it was a shock to me that this, you know, this,

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this thing isn't supposed to exist. So uh, I tried

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to debunk it at first. I spent a lot of

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years trying to debunk it. And uh, well what happened?

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Speaker 3: And tell you what, what did you see?

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Speaker 4: Two thousand and three, I got Uh, I came across

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a female bigfoot and uh she chased me out of

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the woods for over a mile. Wow, Okay, I got her.

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I saw her, you know, I'm I'm coming up through

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the bottom and uh she's paralleling me. And I see

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this bigfoot leaping from behind one tree to the next,

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and she's a midleap when I look at her, and

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it shocked me, you know. And so she paralleled me

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all it to a road and I turned, and when

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I turned, I took off running and she when she

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caught up with me, and we're running side by side,

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twelve feet apart down this dim road, okay, and she

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chased she. That's the way it was for the next

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mile until I made it my truck, you know. And uh,

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and I just chalked it up to weird a word

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encounter that no way happened. There's no way that happened.

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and that convinced me that there is a phenomenon that

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will make you think there's a big foot in the woods.

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spent years working on debunking them, only to prove that

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they are real, their living, breathing being. And uh, and

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that's when I really started sing and tracking these beings,

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you know, because all all the average questions, you know,

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is just just like studying any other being. You have

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to know how close can you get to without spooking it?

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Speaker 3: What?

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Speaker 4: You know? How does it use the land? How where

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is this bedding areas? Where does it? Where is it

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called the home side at? You know? And so I

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all that, and I tracked this one. I really think

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mow this over. And I really think that she had

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been she had been alone a long time. And and

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these these beings are extremely social. They want an interaction,

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and I just think she wanted some kind of attention

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from me, you know. And uh, and she and I

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actually got to She and I actually got to know

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each other very well. You know. It's not like we

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set we sat down and shared apples or anything. But

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I knew she existed. Yeah, I knew she was there.

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fire from each other, not you know, I'd knock at

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her and she had knocked back. And eventually she wound

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up having a little boy. And and now there's her

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a little boy, which the little boy's a little more.

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you know, of course obviously are the big males around,

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but he's so elusive. The big males are the hardest

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ones to try to track down. But uh, if you

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find a big male track, it's on accident. But uh, yeah,

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and learning this one group and taking what I learned

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from that group and find them in other areas. And

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right now I know where eight family groups are and

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then one that lives alone, so nine different areas that

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would that be the mother of little Sam?

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who has over a nineteen inch track, and then now

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little Samantha who has a seven and a half inch truck.

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tracking them on how they use areas, how close I

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can do Her kids know you and trust you Little Sam,

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and I had a pretty good report going until he

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got shot.

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Speaker 3: Remember you telling that that story the last time you

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were on here? Do you mind briefly going back over that.

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Speaker 4: I got a question for you, Patrick, go ahead.

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Speaker 5: The one that you said that you said that there's

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one that's by itself. Is that a male that's by itself?

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only I found his track and I got yelled at

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butte And typically typically a female bigfoot track is slenderer.

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and more slender and female. The large males are almost

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almost square, how wide they are, how they have a

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much wider heel, a much wider foot. And you know,

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I found them up. I actually have a picture on

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my Facebook when it's twenty two point six inches long

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of a big male.

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Speaker 5: So you believe it could be that one myself?

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Speaker 5: Is it roughly aggressed because usually but down here, most

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of the one of that weeks to know that or

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what we've heard if they're by their said they're using

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a rogue in a kind of more aggressive more.

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Speaker 4: And uh, you know, every geographic area may have their differences,

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but down here, what I found that the more there

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are of them, all right, say, like you go out

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and you're doing investigation, you have one coming gruff on you.

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gives them that much more confidence to be groff with you.

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they know they got you if they want you, they're

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not going to be as aggressive in my area. You know,

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at where I've been at in Texas, Louisiana, Arkansas, Mississippi. Well,

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he was, he was, he was, he was little, and

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every time I go up there. You know, we went

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up there and they have to study you just like

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you study them, because they have to know how to

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avoid you. They have to know your strengths and weaknesses.

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So he's been studying me. Well, then you know, he's

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hit puberty and he's running through this bottom and I'm

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in there and I'm actually got set up where I

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can get a video of him, shot him or shot

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at him. I didn't get to examining. But that changed

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everything for a very long time, and to this day,

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he doesn't. The relationship he and I had is different.

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what I have found they have. You know, it takes

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a certain amount of square miles to feed an animal

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or a bean and they discerned that out and they

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have their area of about sixteen to eighteen square my radius, Okay,

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that's a radius. So within that area they will migrate.

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so in the winter home they're in one area and

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in the summertime they're on another area. But they will

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realm to do what they need to do there as well.

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not witnessed that. Yeah, little Sam come and jump at

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them road and that road hunter shot it, shot at

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him or shot him, and it changed the relationship. But

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respond to me, because you know, we've been we've been

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around each other, but it's not like he comes in

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and just stays like he used to. But so we

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went out and put her chairs in the dark, no weapons,

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and just and I did a couple of knocks. He

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did he he yeeled back and he came in in

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the starlight. I'm watching him out between the trees. And

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he's not a little guy more. He's seven foot tall

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a little more than that and skinny. And he's walking

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through the trees and walks up between the trees and

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he's looking at my tracking partner I from around tree

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like this, you know. He hangs out about, you know,

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a few minutes, and then he goes on and I

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tried to walk back at him, but then he just

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woked back one time and he was gone. That was it,

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and that was his past fall. But I started having

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trucks follow me around up there. Okay, So I had

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I had a black uh, there's a black Ford truck

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blacked out windows with a Ham radio set up in

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the back of it follow me in around basically, well,

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I'm not I'm trying to not jump conclusions, but it

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was weird. That's twice I went up there to go track,

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and twice I had this black, blacked out truck with

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a Ham radio wind up right behind me, you know,

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about about one hundred yards watching me, you know, and

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then followed me around. And there there was another white

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Dodge Crew cab and there was a cage in between

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the front and back seat, okay, and it was running

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along with this black truck. And so, yeah, I don't

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I'm not gonna. It's it's hard to you know. It

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takes all of me to go in and track these things.

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It takes all of me, you know. And and I

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still missed the off and I cannot go in there

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and have people follow me around and and and potentially

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cause harm to this group that I've been tracking for

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all these years, you know.

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Speaker 5: So it sounds it sounds like you've got the government

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that's found out about you and wanting to check out

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and you see what you're doing that.

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Speaker 4: It sounds like I mean, well, I saw I saw

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two airplanes, a helicopter, a black truck twice, and a

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white dodge with a cage between the seats. I went

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the of that. But it's also so rained out and

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washed out. I couldn't find the tracks either. But you know,

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I hadn't been up there since in the summer.

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Speaker 5: You know, you kind of been tracking these and so

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close to these the ones, have you noticed like what

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kinds of I probably asked this whatever guess we've had

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so far, it's been that been that area. Have you

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smelled have you noticed a smell with him which I

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know been Louisiana. There's you know, swamps in their lab.

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But have you had to smell with them and everything?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I bust a little sam on my back trail.

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He was tracking me. I was tracking him, but then

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he circles around. He's tracking me, and I busted him

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on my back trail and I got within twenty yards

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of him. He's on one side ridge and I'm one another.

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And the wind, you know, they really have to pay

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attention to wind. But yeah, I got that smell, but

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I really it was pretty warm when I smelled him,

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So I really, I really attribute that smell to just

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body odor and musk. You know, they're getting hot and sweaty.

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He doesn't wor the older. If I didn't wear the older,

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and I'd probably smell way worse than he did. You know,

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I did a sixteen year year study by myself with

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these beans, not going to tell anybody about anything I

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do for myself, so I could learn. I learned how

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they use the land so that I could skirt around

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them and not bother them. And I could still use

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the land too. Okay, I'm not I'm not pro killed.

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I'm not out to kill them. I could, but I

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don't think i'd make it out of the woods alive

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anyway if I didn't. You know, those beings have much

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greater capabilities than we do. All right, They're gonna see

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you coming a lot sooner than what you're gonna even

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have an idea that they're there. You know, I'm pretty

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good in the woods, and I can track up within

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about a quarter mile of them without them knowing. But

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any closer than that they know I'm there, you know,

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And so the best thing I can do if I

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want to have an interaction is just to stop, sit

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down and relax and let them come to me. You know.

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That's because because you know they're they're choosing. You know,

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you don't just run up well, you know, it takes

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a huge mistake in one of their parts for you

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to walk up on one. You know, every time someone says, well,

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I walked up on one is a huge mistake on

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this part. And this it happens, but it's not the norm.

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If you know, normally, if you get up on one,

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it because it let you. Yeah, and and learning that

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I've learned that if I get into the area and

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just stop and start picking up acorns and looking at acorns,

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and picking up sticks. They'll circle around me, especially little Sam.

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They'll circle around me and they'll whoop. You know, hey,

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what's up? You know, we'll wave at each other.

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Speaker 3: You know, do you do you get?

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Speaker 5: Do you do get them? With them?

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Speaker 4: I haven't because I haven't known what to give them anything.

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Anything I give them could be horriful to them. You know,

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I could have I didn't have a cold, and I

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give them something. Guess what he has the cold now,

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and I could kill him. You know, I don't know

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what their immune system is. And I'm certainly not gonna

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give them food. I have thought about giving them food,

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but I don't want anything that size, with that kind

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of capabilities associating me and food together. Okay. I actually

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have a running joke with my with my tracking partner.

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You know, we go out and I'll say, hey, go

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put this honey bunt on your head and go sit

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in the dark. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: But uh yeah, that's yeah, that's the downside to giving

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them food. You know that That's what I've I've always thought,

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you know, it might be a good way to build

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a rapport with these things that, you know, to build

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that relationship. But we're not going to be around forever.

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And who's to say if if I'm leaving them. If

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I go out and I leave them a bag full

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of McDonald's cheeseburgers once a week for five years and

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then I have a heart attack or something, I'm in

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the hospital, have a car wreck, or if I die

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and I'm not leaving those hamburgers anymore, what's gonna happen? Yeah,

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news for somebody.

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Speaker 4: Look someone or or yourself. I mean, if you skip

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a week or two and then because when you come back. Yeah,

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So what I have considered doing, because little Sam loves

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watching me fish. You know, probably half a dozen times

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I've had him come up and watch your fish. And

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what I thought about doing is going out catching a

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fish and go hanging on a tree down wind about

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sixty yards that's where he likes to hang at, just

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taking hanging on the limb and go back, keep fishing.

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And you know, and he knows it's from me, you know,

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And and he understood what it took to get that,

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He understood where it came from. And it's probably something

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he could do himself if he really wanted to. You know,

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I have considered that.

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Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.

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Speaker 3: But the that were born. We'll be right back. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I learned quite quite a bit about tracking them, a

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lot of uh, a lot of behavioral observations, uh, their

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capabilities and the observations of them, uh their knocks. I

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have a rudimentary knowledge of their knocks, how they use them,

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why they use them, and uh. And I went to

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other areas and found other beings in other areas, and

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I used them to experiment with. I don't experiment with

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my whether my core group or my control group, you know,

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because what I go do and experiment with I learned there.

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I know it also applies to the same beings that's

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in my area. That their capabilities and and a lot

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of the same thought processes, even though if individually there.

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Speaker 3: Or the orbs others around them.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen an ORB in my life ever, you know,

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I've never seen an accurate representation of an order as

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far as uh, as far as a picture or anything goes.

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Speaker 3: Mhm. Okay, now switching gears a little bit. You uh

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were talking before we came on, and you had mentioned

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that since your last visit with this you have had

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three more encounters. Would you like to go over those?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, third week of August all last summer, I tracked

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for two ladies that were doing a private experiment with

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us with a family, you know an area I know

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there's a family app. They wanted to go in and

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do an experiment, and I told, I told him where

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to go to. This is where you go. Gave them

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a GPS location, and their first trip there, they're casting tracks, okay,

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and then they go and they set up their experiment

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and they're running this experiment. But they don't want, you know,

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they don't want to just walk in on experiment and say, well,

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you know, Squatch did this. So they had me come

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in and track for them and debunk it. It was

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any human doing this, you know. And I would track,

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you know, if I'm tracking a you know, an eleven

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inch you know, juvenile track going in there and play

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with that experiment while a seventeen inch track is thirty

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yards away on a trail, then I know what's there.

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It's barefoot, you know, it's it has all the indications

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of being bigfoot, you know. Now you know, and I

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have to, you know, if there's any boot tracks in there.

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That's what they want to know. And of course, you know,

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no human found. It was far back off in the

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bush enough and up the creek enough for there was

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some you know, and it didn't skew their findings. You know,

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when I can go in there and say, okay, I

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tracked the bigfoot into your into your experiment, and then

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they'll go in and check the experiment. Okay, this was moved,

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this was changed, this is cool to part rearranged. These

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are gone or something's been added, you know. And uh,

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and it was a really cool thing. So we go

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up there and we check it the third week in August,

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and they wanted to look for tracks. And I knew

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about where to go tracking at because I heard something

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walk up there. You know. Now the norm for bigfoot

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is for them to leave, you know, if you start

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getting close. But I have you know, this is got dark.

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Speaker 3: I have.

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Speaker 4: A queam. It's in my truck. Actually, I mean I

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got a I got a spotlight and it's on the

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ground and I'm cracking in a in a zigzag pattern

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back and forth in the sweeping patterns what it is tracking,

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And then I start noticing these two, these two sets

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of pupils off my left knee, about six feet off

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of me, and so I hit them in the eyes

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with that queueing, and it looks right at me and

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it stands up, and as it's getting taller than me,

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I'm starting to back up, and because it's literally six

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feet from me, and now I'm looking to dead and

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eight and the dead in the eye, and it's getting

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even taller, and so I'm actually backpedal about the length

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of a truck and a run into the one of

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the ladies behind me, and I throw my arm out.

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I said, don't don't eye shine seven foot right there?

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That eye shine hit seven feet and it froze. And

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there's a little one there that's about four and a

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half foot tall that I'm not worried about. This is

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big one that I'm watching. And that big one started

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turning real slow, just real slow, like you don't see me,

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You don't see me. You don't see me, you know,

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because when I shine its eyes and I'm shining this,

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you couldn't see the big foot. All you show. All

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you could see was his eyes shine.

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Speaker 3: And what color did you say the eye shine?

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Speaker 4: Was the eye shine if the pupil was green green?

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About that big a round.

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Speaker 3: Now, this guy just asked, when you look into their eyes,

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what what do you see? Uh, I mean, like, what

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color eye shine do you tend to see? Do you

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see the same color eye shine all the time or

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does it vary.

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Speaker 4: Without light? I've seen their eyes shine and it's and

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it was really the reflection was written. Uh the fire. Huh,

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that's without light, without light. Now now here's all right. Well,

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we're in southern Arkansas and I've got a camera behind

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me with ir lights. Then the r emitters are red

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and we just we me and my tracking partner tracked

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this thing down and now it's in the middle of

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a field about one hundred and fifteen yards out and

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we're looking at it in the starlight with the red eyes.

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And I looked behind me and the mirrors on the

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camera are red too, So I don't know if it

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was catching because I know on camera, I got a

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camera shining past me and you can see its eye lights,

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its eye shine in the field. Okay, my partner, I

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are looking at this thing through naked eyes with red

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eye shine, and the camera is looking past me and

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showing the eye shine in the field. So that was

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red eye shine the one I saw in the fire light.

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It was just reflecting fire. The one that I saw

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and had a pin light in its eyes at fifteen yards.

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It was just reflecting my pen light.

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Speaker 5: Well, the one of these, the ones that you're I'm

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more to ask a question for more actually from Jen Oak.

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So it wanted to kind of help weighing out here

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because I'm sending him all kinds.

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Speaker 4: Of things I wasn't I wasn't done.

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Speaker 5: Oh go ahead, go ahead.

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Speaker 4: Sorry, there's something I haven't discussed ever yet about that

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thing's eyes at six feet with QB Okay, Well, I

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can see the green pupils and and they're looking where

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I'm shining in the light at They're trying to see

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what I'm seeing. And I thought it was just an animal.

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I hid it in the eyes when it looked at me,

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the green pupils, and then you saw amber irises. But

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then when the eyes looked dead at me, there was

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almost a starburst shape a little deeper in the eye

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that was also amber, so it was pupil iris. And

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then behind that was a starburst shape, I mean literally

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like a star. You know, you've seen those lockwashers, the

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old lockwashers that were star shaped, you know, on the outside.

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It was literally just about that shape behind but larger

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than the iris, and it was just about if I

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had the guess, I would say about eight to ten

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millimeters deeper than the iris. And I've been rolled, I've

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been working, I've been I've been wrapping my head around

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this for a while because I don't I don't toast

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up out there unless I have a real good grass

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bum it. But yeah, that's what I saw when I

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shined it in the eyes with a huge que beam.

474
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Speaker 5: At six feet. That's pretty cool. That's more detailed eyes

475
00:28:43,759 --> 00:28:45,359
than we've hadn't ever.

476
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,039
Speaker 4: Had heard of it.

477
00:28:47,799 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really is.

478
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:55,799
Speaker 5: That's pretty awesome. But the ones that that you the

479
00:28:55,839 --> 00:28:58,559
stories that you got those and the ones that you

480
00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:02,279
do track. Uh, she actually asked, you know what type

481
00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:05,400
of bigfoot do you claim that you might think they are,

482
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,240
because that everybody has their different things that there's different

483
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,240
types of you know which I can see that you

484
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,039
have your West Coast, we have our East Coast, and

485
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,000
you know what things we have our midd Coast and

486
00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:17,599
we have our North America.

487
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, people call we have top one, type two,

488
00:29:22,119 --> 00:29:25,240
type three's do you do you buy into that? And

489
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,319
if so, what type are you do you tend to

490
00:29:28,359 --> 00:29:29,880
deal with? Then where you're at.

491
00:29:31,319 --> 00:29:34,160
Speaker 4: I have looked into how many different types of bigfoot

492
00:29:34,319 --> 00:29:39,359
people say there are. I can only go by what

493
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:44,079
I've witnessed, and and and and what I have witnessed

494
00:29:44,359 --> 00:29:47,160
is just one type. Other types. I have not run

495
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,160
into them. Now, I will say that there should be

496
00:29:51,279 --> 00:29:56,240
different types between the southern United States and in Canada,

497
00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:01,359
just because you know, larger body animal survived the cold

498
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:07,200
better and smaller bodied animals survive in the South and

499
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,559
the heat better. Just kind of just like it, Just

500
00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:14,279
like white dell deer and meal deer. There should be

501
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,920
a variation among them, but I haven't witnessed it.

502
00:30:21,559 --> 00:30:24,359
Speaker 3: Have you ever tried talking to him? Jen's asking some

503
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:28,359
great questions and uh and making some people laugh to now.

504
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:33,799
Speaker 4: I've said, I did say a couple of words to

505
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,880
him when he creeped me out a little bit, you know,

506
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,480
because I made a back of my truck and I

507
00:30:41,519 --> 00:30:43,480
did a whoop, and he did a whoop, and I said,

508
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:47,160
just checking, and I waved at him. You know, well,

509
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,359
I speak Native American sign language, so most of my

510
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,839
gestures of them is in you know, it'll be hand

511
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,160
you know, hey, good to see you. You know, I'll

512
00:30:57,240 --> 00:30:58,960
use my hands a lot more so. I think that's

513
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,480
a that is more intelligible and easier to interpret than

514
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:05,279
what my words are.

515
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,279
Speaker 5: Freture, I got this question. Is it's in my head

516
00:31:12,319 --> 00:31:16,680
and I know we've been asked it. I know you've

517
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,279
probably been asked many times and AUDI probably be wanting

518
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:24,319
to know it to you. With you tracking these the

519
00:31:24,359 --> 00:31:28,960
creatures and the family and everything, do you have any pictures?

520
00:31:30,359 --> 00:31:34,599
Do I have pictures of of the of Samy Sam

521
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,559
and all that he Do you have any type of

522
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,839
or is it just been one of those that you

523
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,720
just take out just your tracking, like hunting kind of thing.

524
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,799
Speaker 4: They do not like I've tried to get pictures of them,

525
00:31:45,839 --> 00:31:47,720
but they do not like technology.

526
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:49,119
Speaker 3: All right.

527
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,119
Speaker 4: There was twice once when I was set up to

528
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,279
get a video of them, but he got shot.

529
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:56,119
Speaker 3: Uh.

530
00:31:56,279 --> 00:31:59,839
Speaker 4: After that, That next spring, I'm on a levey and

531
00:32:00,039 --> 00:32:02,000
I'm fishing and I look at the end of the

532
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:06,039
levee and he's standing about one hundred and fifty yards

533
00:32:06,079 --> 00:32:11,000
down in that levee and I'm like, huh. So I

534
00:32:11,039 --> 00:32:13,079
set my pole and my box down, I reach you

535
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:18,799
my phone. He's gone. Now I tested this theory. I

536
00:32:18,839 --> 00:32:21,279
took this laptop and a recorder and put it on

537
00:32:21,319 --> 00:32:25,559
the hood of my truck and called him in. And

538
00:32:25,759 --> 00:32:28,160
little sam come out there beating on his chest, which

539
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,920
I got the audio of Little Samantha. She takes off,

540
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,480
screaming and running, which I got the audio of. And

541
00:32:35,599 --> 00:32:38,440
Sasha throws the rock and hits my recorder dead on,

542
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:42,319
and the rock hits my recorder, bounces across the hood

543
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,559
of my truck and lands on the gravel, falling between

544
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:50,440
the grill guard and the grill of my truck. On audio,

545
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,960
you could hear the click when it hits the hits

546
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,160
the recorder, and then the rock bouncing across, and that

547
00:32:57,359 --> 00:33:00,880
was that was they were upset because I brought technology there.

548
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,920
They watch what's in your hands and they hate technology.

549
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,960
So I have pictures of their of their hand grabs

550
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240
where they're grabbing a sapling and stepping down into a creek.

551
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:15,400
I have the the pictures of their tracks crossing creeks.

552
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:21,119
I have their tracks in mud, washed out and fresh.

553
00:33:21,599 --> 00:33:24,920
And uh, I have a picture of little Samantha's hands

554
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:30,480
in a mud pie that she was playing with her

555
00:33:30,559 --> 00:33:35,119
actual hand or the hand print, the handprint, Okay, I

556
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,480
wasn't thinking that the hand.

557
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 3: Let me poaching.

558
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:45,079
Speaker 4: Yeah, now, I did snap a picture of one. I

559
00:33:45,119 --> 00:33:47,880
was just fishing and I smoking down a creek in

560
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,559
the boat and I look and I see it and

561
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,839
I grab my phone and I snap a picture as

562
00:33:52,839 --> 00:33:57,359
a blob squatch. You know, it was running, I was shaking.

563
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,720
I don't put blob squatches out there if it's not

564
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:07,759
that geo quality. Yeah, I'll a picture of a good

565
00:34:07,799 --> 00:34:08,760
physical evidence.

566
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: I'm so tired of seeing all those pictures. Man, if

567
00:34:13,519 --> 00:34:17,360
I got to count red circles, I really I don't

568
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,400
want to look at the picture, you know, and that

569
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,800
might make a lot of people mad. And I'm sorry,

570
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:28,559
but I'm not going to share red circles anymore. If

571
00:34:28,599 --> 00:34:31,519
it's not apparent, and if you can't look at it

572
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:35,519
and see that there is a shape of a person there,

573
00:34:35,559 --> 00:34:38,159
at least the shape of a person, I'm not going

574
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:42,159
to share it anymore. Miss Karen has asked this question

575
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,239
a couple of times and told her it might be

576
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,599
best for Miss Janice Carter to ask her, but we

577
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,679
would ask you to if you knew. She said, How

578
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:56,400
big are they when they're born? Can they walk right away?

579
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,719
How fast do they grow compared to humans like I

580
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,559
don't know how I'm much interaction you've had with babies.

581
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: I have the answer, I have some answers to that, okay,

582
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,480
But being a tracker, I go by the by their

583
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,239
foot size. Oh okay, okay, by their foot size. Their

584
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,679
foot is a three and a half to four inch

585
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:20,159
long foot when they're born, because they're toddling at at

586
00:35:20,199 --> 00:35:21,960
by the time they're they're at there, By the time

587
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:25,039
they're a size five, they're still toddling. Mam is still

588
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,599
picking up putting them down. You know, if you see

589
00:35:27,599 --> 00:35:29,880
a five size five track, it hits the ground, it

590
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,800
takes three or four steps, then mom's got it again,

591
00:35:32,559 --> 00:35:34,840
you know, and it'll go another fifty to two hundred

592
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,679
yards and then you'll see it get put down again

593
00:35:37,199 --> 00:35:40,519
a couple more steps. Now, by the time a size six,

594
00:35:41,559 --> 00:35:44,920
the size six track, they're getting around pretty good. After

595
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,519
size six, they're not toddling. They're they're on the run.

596
00:35:48,519 --> 00:35:52,519
And uh, I know little Sam at a size eight

597
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,119
was uh you know, between four and four and a

598
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:05,000
half heet tall. Okay, I know he hit puberty at

599
00:36:05,039 --> 00:36:08,480
four years of age. Okay, at four years of age,

600
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:09,159
he hit puberty.

601
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,760
Speaker 3: How big was he at four years of age.

602
00:36:13,039 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 4: Uh about five foot five, about five foot five to

603
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,639
five foot eight at four years of old age four years.

604
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 3: Old, almost six foot tall at four years old.

605
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:29,119
Speaker 4: But he was bigger than me. He was you know, muscular,

606
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:33,519
he was wider, he was heavier than me. Now, if

607
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:36,320
you do the math on that, the average human hits

608
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,639
puberty at twelve years of age. Okay, so that is

609
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:46,119
a three squat years three squash years per human year. Okay,

610
00:36:46,199 --> 00:36:48,960
So at age six, he's equivalent to an eighteen year old.

611
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:54,039
Right now, he's seven, and he's you know, seven foot

612
00:36:54,119 --> 00:36:58,519
two around there and skinny, you know, like an eighteen

613
00:36:58,599 --> 00:36:59,400
year old kid would be.

614
00:37:02,519 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: Wow, that's interesting. Yeah, yeah, that makes sense though. I

615
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,519
mean if you think about it, I mean four, could

616
00:37:12,519 --> 00:37:14,679
you imagine a four year old kid six foot tall?

617
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:20,079
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, well, goods he comes, well he comes duck

618
00:37:20,119 --> 00:37:24,320
walking in under all that brush while fishing and set there.

619
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,320
You I swear, you know, you could just about feel

620
00:37:27,360 --> 00:37:29,079
his breath on the back of my pants, on my

621
00:37:29,199 --> 00:37:32,400
right pants, like I guess he was breathing watching me fish,

622
00:37:32,519 --> 00:37:37,360
you know. So you know, I've had I've had some

623
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,360
pretty close encounters with him, but they do not like

624
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,840
technology and when I'm fishing, I can't touch anything. I

625
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,159
can't reach in my pocket, I can't grab my knife,

626
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,480
I can't touch my tackle box. I just my fishing

627
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:53,760
pole and fishing. That's it, because anything you touch or

628
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,920
grab is suspicious of you know, And I don't blame them.

629
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
You know, look at all the handheld devices they see

630
00:38:00,039 --> 00:38:02,440
in the woods that are made for killing or cutting

631
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:03,320
or skinning something.

632
00:38:04,559 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 3: Absolutely, absolutely, you're right. That's why you know. We we

633
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:12,559
had a discussion among some of our members this past

634
00:38:12,559 --> 00:38:18,719
week about uh, the carrying of long guns and long weapons,

635
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:22,800
and we as a rule for for our group, we

636
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,320
we don't allow it. We don't allow people to our

637
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,960
investigators to carry long guns or like bow and arrows

638
00:38:31,039 --> 00:38:34,519
or anything like that because they I really feel like

639
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:41,679
they know what a weapon is. A handgun, a rambow, knife,

640
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:43,480
anything like that. You can keep on your hip and

641
00:38:43,519 --> 00:38:46,599
keep covered up. Car as many as you want. So

642
00:38:47,039 --> 00:38:50,880
just leave your you leave your ar or your crossbow

643
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,199
or whatever it is. Leave it in a tent. You know,

644
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,199
that's when you're gonna need it anyway, if they come

645
00:38:55,199 --> 00:38:56,360
in there and camp on you.

646
00:38:57,679 --> 00:39:01,800
Speaker 4: Well, I have carried some firepower. But it's because as

647
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:07,719
a tracker. I didn't always get to choose the the

648
00:39:08,199 --> 00:39:11,440
ones I'm gonna go and interact with. And I had

649
00:39:11,679 --> 00:39:14,960
I had this person say, yeah, man, this thing came

650
00:39:15,039 --> 00:39:17,719
running up and was screaming and throwing stuff and uh

651
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:20,599
and was being aggressive and it's running a lot of

652
00:39:20,599 --> 00:39:23,519
people off, you know, or whatever. And and so I've

653
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:27,760
carried you know, I have carried some firepower in with

654
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:32,559
me in a sketchy situation. But normally I have a knife,

655
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,920
you know, My normal thing is just a knife.

656
00:39:38,639 --> 00:39:41,639
Speaker 3: Detroit Daniel here has a really good question that I've

657
00:39:41,639 --> 00:39:45,039
been meaning to get up here. So most animals don't

658
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:48,719
change by what part of the US they're in, Why

659
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:53,960
you sasquatch attitudes differ so much? That's that's a really

660
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:56,320
good question. I've thought about that myself.

661
00:39:57,840 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 1: Stay tuned for more.

662
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:04,119
Speaker 3: But the Big Flipper, we'll be right back. As you

663
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,360
hear the ones up north and like the Pacific north

664
00:40:07,599 --> 00:40:11,679
Northwest are more laid back. They're bigger, but they're more

665
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,880
laid back. You know. There you don't hear as many

666
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:18,320
aggressive accounts they down Texas. Down south where we're at,

667
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:22,559
you hear in Florida, you hear aggressive behavior. Why is

668
00:40:22,599 --> 00:40:23,800
that if it's the same.

669
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 4: Animal, different plans. Now, you know, there's never never and

670
00:40:30,519 --> 00:40:37,559
there's never always with sasquatch okod, my group is pretty docile,

671
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:43,199
you know. Uh, you know, there's there's four of them

672
00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:45,400
in that group. They're pretty pretty laid back.

673
00:40:46,519 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

674
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 4: You go to another group that has attitude, and it's

675
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:57,039
just simply like save, my family is genetically prone to

676
00:40:57,199 --> 00:41:00,280
have a certain laid back attitude. Another family may be

677
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:06,679
genetic program genetically uh prone to having not so laid

678
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,480
back attitudes, you know. And so you have not only

679
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,320
do you have individual tendencies inside of a clan and behaviors,

680
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:21,639
you'll also have uh clanned clan differences as far as

681
00:41:21,679 --> 00:41:26,760
attitude and all that goes as well. Now my personal

682
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,719
feeling as far as what I've heard of for what

683
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:35,440
the the accounts I've heard the uh, the ones in

684
00:41:35,559 --> 00:41:39,840
the south and east of the of of of America

685
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,199
are actually more docile than the ones out towards where

686
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,320
you have all that land that they can escape into

687
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,480
after doing something to you.

688
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:58,199
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think, I think when I think when

689
00:41:58,199 --> 00:42:01,320
they give him a reward, because I think he has

690
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,119
got the most questions being asked in are any of

691
00:42:05,159 --> 00:42:06,000
our shows.

692
00:42:07,519 --> 00:42:10,559
Speaker 5: I think he's blown Janis out of the water. I

693
00:42:10,599 --> 00:42:12,039
can't keep up with all these.

694
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,639
Speaker 3: I can't either. They're firing them, firing them off at him.

695
00:42:16,119 --> 00:42:17,719
Speaker 4: Do I have time to take a short break?

696
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:21,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, take take your break, Yeah.

697
00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: Buddy, I'll be right back. Guys.

698
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:27,519
Speaker 3: All right, guys, that's awesome questions.

699
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 5: I can't keep dude, I can't keep up with I'm

700
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,800
sending so many texts Wayne hit the times because on

701
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:40,679
purpose weird. I mean, there's a line of them. I mean,

702
00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:44,280
and it's like and they're all great questions, they really are.

703
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,800
They're all some awesome questions. Yeah, we might have to

704
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,679
have him on for a questionnaire show or something.

705
00:42:56,679 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 3: For a round table or something like that. We're coming

706
00:42:59,079 --> 00:43:04,679
up on an hour, so, uh, he's got a few

707
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,840
pictures that he sent me to that that we can

708
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:08,400
go over.

709
00:43:10,559 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 5: So, yeah, who you find jan You are not nowhere?

710
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:26,000
You were nowhere behind girl. Oh my word, there's a track.

711
00:43:28,119 --> 00:43:29,280
I'm saying that for sure.

712
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:34,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're just going over some of these pictures that

713
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,440
you said, the tracks mainly, and you told me what

714
00:43:38,639 --> 00:43:42,280
each one was. But go ahead and talk about him.

715
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: That is a small juvenile track that I was tracking

716
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:54,639
on private property. Uh, dang, that's what you want. That's

717
00:43:54,639 --> 00:44:00,519
a juvenile. And you see how why that is about. Yeah,

718
00:44:00,679 --> 00:44:04,519
now you can see my boot track. It's only about

719
00:44:04,559 --> 00:44:06,199
half the size of my boot and I wear a

720
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:07,000
size twelve.

721
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,039
Speaker 5: Okay, now I see it, I see it.

722
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 3: Okay.

723
00:44:12,199 --> 00:44:14,559
Speaker 4: So that's a six and a half inch track, juvenile.

724
00:44:15,159 --> 00:44:18,280
And just how wide it is, I would say, that's

725
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:19,079
gonna be a little mill.

726
00:44:20,639 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 5: That's a big foot.

727
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:31,039
Speaker 4: That's a that's the same juvenile, same individual. Two hundred

728
00:44:31,079 --> 00:44:34,079
yards down. I picked some of the pine stroy out

729
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,039
of the track and took a picture of it. Same individual.

730
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:42,920
Now that track is the same individual, and it's on

731
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,320
a corridor. There's a corridor that run that runs through

732
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:54,039
the woods and uh. And that that's the track. That's

733
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,880
a larger track. You can see the toe of my

734
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,840
moccasin down on the four on the left bottom, left

735
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,920
end corner. Yeah that's mama.

736
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:08,360
Speaker 3: Okay. And you said this was the corridor.

737
00:45:09,559 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 4: That's the corridor facing south. Uh yeah, facing south. You

738
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:16,519
can see I actually I was actually there when it

739
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:20,639
went through, knocking them limbs you see on the ground. Yeah,

740
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,679
you see, you see how the trees are wedged to

741
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:28,039
the side as they went through pushing. Yeah, that's that's

742
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:32,639
just Now, there's a story behind this these pictures. And

743
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,079
while I only got a couple of pictures on that corridor,

744
00:45:35,199 --> 00:45:36,159
I was getting growled at.

745
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:41,559
Speaker 3: Ah. Now was this in the same area?

746
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 4: That is in the same area that is about a

747
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:50,280
hundred yards off the corridor as you go into where

748
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:56,039
I camp at. Okay, And and that wasn't like that. This,

749
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,000
that wasn't like that just a month before that because

750
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,199
that group of trees, that's the group of trees I

751
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:05,159
was going behind to use as a latrin at a

752
00:46:05,159 --> 00:46:09,880
primitive encampment. Okay, I come back and that tree is

753
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,000
twisted and broke down just outside the camp.

754
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:17,079
Speaker 3: That's crazy, all right, Patrick got.

755
00:46:18,559 --> 00:46:23,079
Speaker 5: I know I asked Jennis this question about the males,

756
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,280
and this is from one of the other years.

757
00:46:25,559 --> 00:46:28,800
Speaker 3: Let's share this because I really want I want Patrick's

758
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,719
to see this. This guess ever so knowledgeable. Thanks so

759
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:36,239
much for the show. I told you guys that we

760
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,599
get asked all the time for when Patrick's coming back,

761
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,320
so he's very knowledgeable.

762
00:46:41,039 --> 00:46:47,639
Speaker 4: It's my pleasure, Karen, I do this to support the

763
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:51,920
the and further the effort of the subject of study.

764
00:46:52,599 --> 00:46:58,639
That's why I do this also support to support the community, lead.

765
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,679
Speaker 3: And ask you dirty question, but try to try to

766
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,559
word it. You know, I'm just gonna I'm reading.

767
00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:06,599
Speaker 4: It's not just me.

768
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:10,280
Speaker 3: I mean, we're over a thousand subscribers now, so we're

769
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:16,039
being looked at closely on the stuff. I don't know

770
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:17,519
if you've got miss Jennis show.

771
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 5: When I asked her about the male part, this one

772
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:24,559
was about, Uh, this question is asking if if actually

773
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:27,679
females do do they have a monthly thing? Do they

774
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,320
have a period like I think they do?

775
00:47:31,519 --> 00:47:34,960
Speaker 3: Animals? Do you know you have covered that? Yeah, Jane

776
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:35,599
talked about that.

777
00:47:39,159 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 4: I have no idea. I haven't dated one.

778
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:48,159
Speaker 3: I'm on here.

779
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:52,519
Speaker 5: You know, I'll ask it for them. I mean, I said, well, yeah,

780
00:47:52,639 --> 00:47:55,400
Jen JS goes into great detail about that.

781
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,559
Speaker 3: Okay, go ahead, Patrick.

782
00:47:59,559 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 4: That was that was like a no goes on for

783
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:08,159
men when I was married. You know, I'm certainly not

784
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:10,679
going to chase the Sasquatch down and say, excuse me, ma'am,

785
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,760
are you on the period? You don't have a microphone

786
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:16,840
in my hand. I like to interview about this. I

787
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,039
don't know you know I've been silly. I'm being silly,

788
00:48:20,039 --> 00:48:21,400
but I honestly don't know.

789
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 3: Uh, leave it to wolves to come up with these.

790
00:48:25,679 --> 00:48:31,119
Speaker 4: I well, I've been asked about their breeding. They're breeding

791
00:48:31,199 --> 00:48:36,440
times and breeding seasons, and I don't know. I really

792
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:39,079
couldn't tell you if they are like us, where they

793
00:48:39,079 --> 00:48:42,800
could they have a cycle like us to where at

794
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400
any month they could breed, or they actually have a

795
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:51,079
time of year. I don't know. I can say most

796
00:48:51,119 --> 00:48:53,719
of the time when I'm finding the young juvenal, when

797
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:57,800
I find a five inch track, it's a toddler and

798
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,800
it's springtime. I've noticed that.

799
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: Bob cat On asking that.

800
00:49:06,159 --> 00:49:07,800
Speaker 4: I'm gonna tell you, I was worried because I was

801
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:09,639
thinking there's a red rocket or something coming.

802
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 3: No, have you ever gotten gifted from them, buying wrapping

803
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,119
sticks anything like that?

804
00:49:19,679 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Again, most of what you learn is in retrospect.

805
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,360
In this subject, you know, you'll go and you'll have

806
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,320
an experience, and and sometimes as it is happening, I

807
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,239
can I can discern it out accurately, but then you know,

808
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,800
or a certain percent of it, a certain percentage of it,

809
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:43,519
I can discern that accurately at that time, but it's

810
00:49:43,679 --> 00:49:47,559
later on that you really that things really like, oh

811
00:49:47,679 --> 00:49:53,960
that's what that meant. Well, Sasha left me a pixekull, okay,

812
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:57,440
and I believe it's a knocking. I believe it's what

813
00:49:57,559 --> 00:50:02,199
she takes her and knocks on, you know. And I

814
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:05,559
didn't take it. I didn't take the pig skull because

815
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:07,519
I just got out of the hospital. I'd had a

816
00:50:08,119 --> 00:50:11,679
bad staff infection. I wasn't supposed to live over, but

817
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:14,480
I did. And I got out of the hospital, and

818
00:50:14,559 --> 00:50:17,679
I was really real funny about germs, and especially a

819
00:50:17,679 --> 00:50:21,679
fresh pig skull, because hauling halling hogs is how I

820
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,159
got the infection in my leg. So I rolled it over,

821
00:50:25,199 --> 00:50:26,599
I looked at and I lifted there and it was

822
00:50:26,639 --> 00:50:31,599
gone the next day. And I hope, I hope I

823
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:35,280
didn't insult. I wish i'd have grabbed a plastic bagg

824
00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:42,159
or gloves or something that picked it up. But you know, yeah,

825
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:43,239
so that has happened.

826
00:50:44,679 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, uh, we're gone over an hour here. That's

827
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,239
about time to wrap it up, buddy. I appreciate you

828
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:58,400
coming back on or do it like like everyone saying,

829
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:03,000
very very formative and you know this is your second

830
00:51:03,039 --> 00:51:05,880
time and something tells me. You know, we'd like to

831
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:09,599
have you back for number three if you'd be willing.

832
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, there's there's two encounters we didn't get to.

833
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 3: Oh that's right, that's right. We uh time all these questions.

834
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,400
I mean, we got these questions coming at us.

835
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,639
Speaker 4: I don't mind. There there they are why we're here

836
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,840
doing the show exactly.

837
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:32,360
Speaker 3: You know that that's the beauty of doing a live

838
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:35,880
show instead of a recorded show, because the you know,

839
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:39,440
people get to ask questions like this, and you know

840
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,280
that's why we're trying to do two a week now too,

841
00:51:42,679 --> 00:51:46,079
you know, to get more more opportunity. But yeah, we'll

842
00:51:46,119 --> 00:51:49,079
have you back to go over those other encounters. And

843
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,480
I really do appreciate you coming back and uh and

844
00:51:51,519 --> 00:51:52,639
hanging out with us. Buddy.

845
00:51:53,039 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: Oh, thanks for inviting me.

846
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 3: All right, buddy, you have a good night and we

847
00:51:58,320 --> 00:51:59,239
will catch you later.

848
00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: All right, all right, hey, everybody, thank you so much

849
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,480
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850
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867
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868
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 7: Through the woods, the pine trees sway, shadows long at

869
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:29,519
the end of day, weetfoots call on the whispering breeze.

870
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:37,239
Secrets kept by an shoot trees, dog man house, being

871
00:53:37,599 --> 00:53:43,599
foo echoes in the silent too.

872
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:45,800
Speaker 8: Tracks.

873
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:49,760
Speaker 7: We fine, but answers none.

874
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 8: A hunt for truth. That's just the gun.

875
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:09,719
Speaker 7: We're searching past the fire light. Four creatures hidden out

876
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:18,320
of sight in the forest. Hardware shadows lay seeking seecrets

877
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:28,719
in the twilight through the fog a shape did gly.

878
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:31,480
Speaker 8: Skin walker.

879
00:54:32,519 --> 00:54:38,599
Speaker 7: I saw wide legends of Oh, we chase to night

880
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:46,559
in the dark, our lanterns bright by the creek, quil

881
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:55,599
water spill, whispers ry the windsow chill forest, deep man

882
00:54:55,960 --> 00:54:57,400
tails on top.

883
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 8: In this land, the myths of O.

884
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 7: We're searching past the fire light full creatures hidden out

885
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:26,599
of sight in the forest hard where shadows lay, seeking

886
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:46,760
seeing chrits in the twilight break

