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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, welcome into the Thinking Crypto Podcast, your home

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<v Speaker 1>for cryptocurrency news and interviews. I'm your host, Tony Edward.

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<v Speaker 1>as you can tell, I'm back in my home studio.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back from vacation, me and the family. We went

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<v Speaker 1>to Montreal and we had a really good time. A

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<v Speaker 1>quick vacation, but folks, we got big news to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to kick it off with bitcoin and right

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<v Speaker 1>now still consolidating around one hundred and seven thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>We're waiting for a breakout to new highs and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's around the corner. We may see some volatility

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<v Speaker 1>before we get there, but one of the major indicators

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<v Speaker 1>we've been looking at, both in the newsletter as well

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<v Speaker 1>as on the podcast, is that we are seeing global

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<v Speaker 1>liquidity continues to rise and risk assets are following. And

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<v Speaker 1>look at the SMP five hundred, it is hitting new

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<v Speaker 1>all time highs. A perfect v shape recovery is happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at this chart, it's beautiful. The big dump

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<v Speaker 1>that happened with the tariff uncertainty crash, of course, and

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<v Speaker 1>now we're seeing the recovery from that, and even the

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<v Speaker 1>Nasdaq is hitting new all time highs. So what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen is that all risk assets, whether it be precious metals,

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<v Speaker 1>crypto stocks, and so forth, are all correlated to global

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<v Speaker 1>equity and they've been on the rise. And folks, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful sign. It shows we are still in

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<v Speaker 1>the bull market. And as mentioned, there's going to be volatility,

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<v Speaker 1>so you have to expect that nothing goes up in

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<v Speaker 1>a straight line. But the signs are there for the

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<v Speaker 1>continuation and for the run up to new highs. You

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<v Speaker 1>just got to be patient. Another factor that is important

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<v Speaker 1>to look at is the dx Y, the dollar currency index.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I wrote in my newsletter on Sunday that

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<v Speaker 1>it was below ninety eight. It is now below ninety seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It continues to break down. That is very good for

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<v Speaker 1>risk assets due to the inverse correlation. So all the metrics,

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<v Speaker 1>all the data, and once again I'm not sharing my

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<v Speaker 1>emotions now, not my feelings, but the data, because you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see people in the common section who have

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<v Speaker 1>been saying for months we're in a bear market. It's

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<v Speaker 1>all done right. They have disappeared, and some of them

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<v Speaker 1>are still hanging around because some of them are shorting

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<v Speaker 1>the markets that they want to put freer and pulse

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<v Speaker 1>put cell pressure out there. But we are in a

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<v Speaker 1>bull market, and I think it's risky to short in

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<v Speaker 1>a bull market. You want to short in a bear market,

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<v Speaker 1>that's easy, right. But guys, we still got more upside here.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the takeaway now, folks. The Big Beautiful Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>which is of course Donald Trump's spending bill, the fund

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<v Speaker 1>the government and to kick off a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 1>economic prosperity and things along those lines. Well, apparently Senator

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<v Speaker 1>Cynthia Lummis, who's a big time crypto advocate, she tried

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<v Speaker 1>to put some language in the bill regarding crypto So

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<v Speaker 1>this is interesting. It's outside of the Crypto Market Structure Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>in the stable coin bill. So Eleanor Turrett reported that

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<v Speaker 1>amendments to the Big Beautiful Bill regarding crypto taxes are

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<v Speaker 1>still on the table today despite some last minute disagreements. Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm hearing the White House has gotten wind of this

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<v Speaker 1>and it's pushing for inclusion of Senator Lummis's language in

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<v Speaker 1>the final bill. Now, Dennis Porter tweeted out about this, saying,

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<v Speaker 1>we could see the cap gains exception and the end

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<v Speaker 1>of double taxation on mining rewards in this respective amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also some language around staking. So this would be

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<v Speaker 1>a very good thing for the industry. Let's see if

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<v Speaker 1>it's able to make it through. Obviously, there's a whole

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<v Speaker 1>other aspect to this bill as it relates to politics

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<v Speaker 1>and Democrats and Republicans and funding the government and all

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. Right, you guys know about all that stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not here to talk about that because that's

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<v Speaker 1>all politics. But you know, as a release to crypto,

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<v Speaker 1>let's see this language makes it through, because this could

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<v Speaker 1>be really big now, folks, Robinhood is going all in

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<v Speaker 1>on crypto. Today. They had a big event where they

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<v Speaker 1>announced new features, new products and things that they are building.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's the headline. Robinhood pushed deeper into crypto with

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<v Speaker 1>their own blockchain tokenized stock launch. This is a huge guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Robinhood is a massive player. Obviously a lot of retail

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<v Speaker 1>investors use Robinhood. Going back to investing, in stocks. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>robinhood is going all in on crypto, looking to offer

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<v Speaker 1>different crypto products and financial services, and they are looking

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<v Speaker 1>to do a lot of tokenization as well because they

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<v Speaker 1>see the direction to Puck is heading in. They see

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<v Speaker 1>disruptions at their doorsteps, so they are trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and let me give it to details. So robinhood

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<v Speaker 1>is expanding its crypto offerings by developing its own blockchain

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<v Speaker 1>network based on Arbitrum and launching tokenized stock trading for

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<v Speaker 1>European users. A couple things here. One, they are building

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<v Speaker 1>on Arbitrum, which is an etheroreum layer to blockchains, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're seeing the adoption of public blockchains here. Once again,

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<v Speaker 1>they're not doing some sort of private network thing here.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of these guys are building on public blockchain. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>they may use zk zero knowledge proof and things like

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<v Speaker 1>that to make sure certain data is private, but the

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<v Speaker 1>point is they're building on a public blockchain infrastructure and

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<v Speaker 1>of course tokenizing stocks, so all the traditional assets such

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<v Speaker 1>as stocks, equities and others will be tokenized on blockchain.

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<v Speaker 1>So the company aims to create an all in one

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<v Speaker 1>investment app with twenty four to seven trading self custody

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<v Speaker 1>and cross chain bridging of tokenized assets underpinned by blockchain rails.

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<v Speaker 1>As part of the crypto push, Robinhood is introducing perpetual

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<v Speaker 1>swamps to European users and crypto stinking to US investors

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<v Speaker 1>talk about going all in. This is a lot, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>and they did a big event, and they're CEO of

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<v Speaker 1>lad Tenev of course, spoke about it, and it's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the largest players in the market in the

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<v Speaker 1>trad fire world going neck deep into crypto. Incredible stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And then notice what they said here twenty four to

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<v Speaker 1>seven trading. What have I been saying for years and

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<v Speaker 1>years and years right beating the drum to you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>we are headed to the first truly global market twenty

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<v Speaker 1>four seven trading, no opening or closing bell, no holidays,

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<v Speaker 1>no closed on weekends, and all your traditional assets running

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<v Speaker 1>on blockchain. Now you may say, Tony, how can I,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, essentially capitalize on this. Well, for one, look

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<v Speaker 1>at the blockchain they're building on arbitrump, which is an

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<v Speaker 1>etherrem layer too, so you can hold the arbitram token.

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<v Speaker 1>I personally don't. You can holy theorem, which you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the layer twos obviously send value to the layer one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is etherrem so you can holy theorem. I do

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<v Speaker 1>holy theorem. You can hold Robin Hood stock. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>they are looking to tokenize their own stock as well,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know the other things that they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>is going to allow more capital to come into the market.

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<v Speaker 1>So they're launching perpetual swaps, crypto staking and all these things.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's you know, pretty much how you can essentially

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<v Speaker 1>get capitalized on this. And you know, once they're tokenized

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<v Speaker 1>stocks are launched, you can see what DeFi services they

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<v Speaker 1>add to that where you can then maybe hold those

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<v Speaker 1>stocks and then lend them out and do all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of cool things that you can do holding the traditional stock. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>So these are the ways to think about it and

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<v Speaker 1>look at how you can capitalize. This is so bullish,

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<v Speaker 1>so massive, and as always, game theory will play out

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<v Speaker 1>here and you will see their competitors jump in. And

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<v Speaker 1>we're still waiting for big names like Charles Schwab and

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<v Speaker 1>E Trade and all these guys that go all in.

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<v Speaker 1>We heard rumors, but you know they're coming, all the

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<v Speaker 1>big bangs. I think many are waiting on crypto legislation,

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<v Speaker 1>like the stable coin bill, and of course the Market

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<v Speaker 1>Structure bill. So things are moving in the right direction here. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the folks at Arbitrump did tweet out about this robin

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<v Speaker 1>Hood partnership and that Robinhood's going to be building on Arbitrump,

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<v Speaker 1>and they said, here Arbitrump will serve as robin Hood's

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<v Speaker 1>rails to merge, DeFi and tradify in what is a

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<v Speaker 1>zero to one moment for the entire industry, all while

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<v Speaker 1>onboarding millions of net new users into crypto. Big statements there, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's move ahead. This one is big two

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<v Speaker 1>stable cooin issuer Circle, which just went public, applies for

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<v Speaker 1>a national bank charter. So you're seeing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these crypto companies are going after the bank charters. You're

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<v Speaker 1>going to see kind of a democratization in banking. No

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<v Speaker 1>longer would JP Morgan and these big banks be the

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<v Speaker 1>only ones running banking services. Now, don't get me wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying they're going to die and go away

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<v Speaker 1>right away. Clearly they've been fighting. You know, we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>ad nauseum about it over the past four years that

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Diamond and the banking industry was lobbying Elizabeth Warren

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<v Speaker 1>to attack crypto. And that's why you saw against her

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<v Speaker 1>even breaking the law just to attack crypto. Right. You

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<v Speaker 1>saw this old grandma. That is Elizabeth Warren going crazy

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<v Speaker 1>about crypto when the country is facing other problems, right

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<v Speaker 1>that because she's getting paid, she's getting lobby to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what the big fight was about. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you see Wall Street. Now all of them are

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<v Speaker 1>making your announcements. JP Morgan, Bank of America, We're all

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<v Speaker 1>going to get involved, launch crypto trading, we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>support ETFs, we're going to provide banking services. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to launch our own stable coin. Right, So it's incredible

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening. So here are the key points. Circle Internet

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<v Speaker 1>Group submitted a bank charter application to the Office of

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<v Speaker 1>the Controller of the Currency. That's the occ Circle is

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<v Speaker 1>the issue of the USDC stable coin. The firm hopes

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<v Speaker 1>to establish a national trust bank, which will be named

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<v Speaker 1>first National Digital Currency Bank NA. Anchorage Digital is the

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<v Speaker 1>only other crypto company to obtain such a license, So

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<v Speaker 1>Anchorage Digital is of course a crypto custodian. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>the CEO and some representatives on the podcast over the years.

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<v Speaker 1>The CEO's Nathan McCauley. I think I interviewed him last

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<v Speaker 1>year most recently. I try to get him back on soon.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is going to be a big factor in

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<v Speaker 1>how these crypto companies grow, and they're able to do

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<v Speaker 1>certain banking services because you got stable coins for payments,

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<v Speaker 1>you get the custody aspect, so they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to do a lot more borrowing, lending and all

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<v Speaker 1>that jazz. So incredible stuff, folks. Crypto's just become ubiquitous.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're just seeing it everywhere. Everybody's trying to get involved,

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<v Speaker 1>get their licenses, get their charters, and launching their services.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a big race right now, and you know everybody

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get as much market share as possible, right

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to see this competition is healthy, and folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we are the early adopters. We've been buying the blood

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets, buying the fear and ready to sell

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<v Speaker 1>this is surprising. The SEC clears way for the first

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<v Speaker 1>Solana steaking ETF. Rex and Osprey prep to launch their

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<v Speaker 1>Salona steaking ETF. This is interesting because the SEC has

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<v Speaker 1>So on Friday, the SEC informed Rex Shares and Ospray

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<v Speaker 1>Funds that it had no further comments on their Solana

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<v Speaker 1>Spot Bigcin ETFs, some black Rock Fidelity and others. Essentially,

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<v Speaker 1>the review is done fire when ready. According to a post,

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<v Speaker 1>to Solana's price movements alongside native steaking rewards. Unlike traditional

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<v Speaker 1>Act of nineteen forty using a c corporation format, which

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<v Speaker 1>allows staking income to flow through to investors without triggering

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<v Speaker 1>staking yields. So they took a very different direction than

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<v Speaker 1>the other players out there. We'll see how this plays

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<v Speaker 1>out when you know the regular staking in e theorem

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<v Speaker 1>ETFs get approved like the spawn ETFs, and how this

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<v Speaker 1>all plays out. But it's nevertheless a smart move. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of found a workaround here. Bloomberg's James Seyfert

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<v Speaker 1>noted that at the time that the fund's unique SA

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<v Speaker 1>change process. The sec silence on the C corp workaround

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<v Speaker 1>now appears to validate it has a compliance solution. Rex Shares,

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<v Speaker 1>stretching for its victory lap has already begun teasing or

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<v Speaker 1>publicly teasing the ETFs coming soon. Meanwhile, analysts like Eric

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like wow, he posted, So this is interesting

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<v Speaker 1>and we could see some other company do something similar.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't be surprised if you know, like the Etheroreum folks

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<v Speaker 1>a C corporation set up. We'll see, but Nevertheless, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a very very interesting development here. Now, speaking of ETFs,

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC acknowledges the amendment to convert Gray Scales Digital

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<v Speaker 1>Large Cap fun into an ETF covering Bitcoin, eth XRP, Solana,

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<v Speaker 1>and ATA. Folks, I've often said that eventually, in the

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<v Speaker 1>long term, I believe these index ETFs, which gives you

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<v Speaker 1>will outperform the individual ETFs, like the bitcoin and so forth,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think people are going to want to get

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<v Speaker 1>more exposure beyond just bitcoin or ether. Right, It's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of what we see with the SMP five hundred, the NASDAC.

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<v Speaker 1>These indexes have grown over time and it becomes an

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<v Speaker 1>easy way for people to invest passively, not having to

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<v Speaker 1>I add, and so forth. Right, So, this is really

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<v Speaker 1>of these basket ETFs approved over time. Now, earlier we

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<v Speaker 1>so forth. Well, Kracking Exchange set here Breaking Wall Street

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<v Speaker 1>Sixty US equities tokenized and tradeable twenty four to five,

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<v Speaker 1>so it looks like just over five days, twenty four hours,

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<v Speaker 1>over five days. More coming soon. The folks at stock

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<v Speaker 1>Stocks Alliance as the official oracle infrastructure powering the pricing

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<v Speaker 1>of all x stocks, tokenized equities and ETFs. Watch out

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<v Speaker 1>for chain Link, folks. Many other platforms and blockchains are

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<v Speaker 1>using chain Link for the pricing indexes and oracles and

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<v Speaker 1>much more. So That's why I'm bullish on chain Link,

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<v Speaker 1>this cycle. But we'll see how that plays out, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>Final news item here, We're Liberty Financial has a mobile

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<v Speaker 1>app in the work. So many of you know we're

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<v Speaker 1>Liberty Financial backed by Trump and his kids, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>involved in that. So it looks like they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>he said the following. Regarding the mobile app, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>it's something that we've been working on for a very

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<v Speaker 1>long time now with some of the best partners and

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<v Speaker 1>builders in the space, both on our team and companies

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<v Speaker 1>that we've partner with. And this is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>culmination of what I was talking about in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>creating a Web two style fintech application that allows a

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<v Speaker 1>non native crypto user to be able to very easily deposit,

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<v Speaker 1>get the benefit of earning through DeFi applications, and be

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<v Speaker 1>very easily. So this is interesting. Let's see how this

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<v Speaker 1>plays out. I'm not a user of World Liberty Financial.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't hold a token, you know. I'm not hating

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<v Speaker 1>on it, just I just don't. I don't see a

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<v Speaker 1>need to use it. Some of you may have taken

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<v Speaker 1>a bed on it and hold it. But my initial,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, thought was I need to see how this

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<v Speaker 1>plays out because I don't know who to the developers.

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<v Speaker 1>Have they gone through the proper testing, you know, to

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<v Speaker 1>avoid hacks and collapses. We've seen exploits in D five,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for folks who have not done things well

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<v Speaker 1>and their security is not up to par. Again, it

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<v Speaker 1>depends who's on the team and so forth, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>all me. I need to do a bit more research,

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<v Speaker 1>but I always like to, you know, let these things

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<v Speaker 1>play out, to see, you know, what's happening here, who's involved.

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<v Speaker 1>I've often stated version one point zero of anything is

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<v Speaker 1>not perfect. There's usually a lot of bugs. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to be part of the phase where the

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<v Speaker 1>bugs and I lose my money. Right, So you got

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful. You got to be smart. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to do your research to just keep that in mind

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<v Speaker 1>when you see new projects, you know, something to think about. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're holding the token, it is a little less risk.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always a risk when you're investing, of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's less risk, you know. But if you're putting into

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of DeFi a smart contract and doing some

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<v Speaker 1>sort of boring lending, you got to know what you're doing. Man.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen some massive exploits because we're still in early days.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not to say DeFi is going away. It's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna stay. It just needs to be further iteration and building.

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<v Speaker 1>But you always got to be smart, do your research,

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<v Speaker 1>test things out, you know, maybe don't put a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of money, put a little bit of money, see how

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<v Speaker 1>it works, and learn your way around and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that everything's good before you put a lot of money,

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<v Speaker 1>if you know what I mean. All right, folks, let

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<v Speaker 1>me know what you think about this news, especially the

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<v Speaker 1>Robinhood news. It's just huge and even circle you know,

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