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<v Speaker 1>Like, I'm sure you must have heard about the Jewish

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<v Speaker 1>couple that got murdered by the Palestinian supporter.

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<v Speaker 2>What is wrong with people?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, honestly, let's see, I don't like the government

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<v Speaker 1>of your ancestors and your people, so therefore.

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<v Speaker 2>I will kill you. It's just evil, That's correct.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think if if we step back from everything,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the minutia, like I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>the Medicaid provisions, because there's so much hyperbole out there

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<v Speaker 3>about the Medicaid provisions in this bill.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you.

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<v Speaker 3>Step away from that and you look at kind of

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<v Speaker 3>the big stuff going on in the world, it really

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<v Speaker 3>is a battle of good versus evil. And I suppose,

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<v Speaker 3>if I wanted to, I could take that come man

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<v Speaker 3>about good versus evil and drill it down to almost everything,

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<v Speaker 3>including you know, maybe even this Medicaid stuff I'm getting

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<v Speaker 3>ready to talk about. To give you an idea of

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<v Speaker 3>where I'm going, because today is is it's not what

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<v Speaker 3>I expected at all. I'm just walking around with my

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<v Speaker 3>laptop trying to figure out everything that's going on in

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<v Speaker 3>this legislation.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think there's anything wrong, because there are

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<v Speaker 3>things in this bill that piss me off. And I

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<v Speaker 3>know because I'm reading the text line. There are things

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<v Speaker 3>in this bill to piss you off. There are also

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<v Speaker 3>some things in this bill that I think are good,

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<v Speaker 3>and I and I would say, it's about damn time

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<v Speaker 3>we've done some of these things. For example, one of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that irritates me about the bill is that

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<v Speaker 3>it add to the deficit, which so we don't get

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<v Speaker 3>an engineering upset, that it adds to the budget deficit annually,

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<v Speaker 3>which then means we have to borrow to cover that deficit,

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<v Speaker 3>which then that borrowed money gets added to the national debt,

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<v Speaker 3>and that drives me crazy. But if if, if Dragon

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<v Speaker 3>and I who have And I'm not nearly as good

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<v Speaker 3>as what Dragon's done, But I'm as proud of the

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<v Speaker 3>weight that I've lost as Dragon is of the weight

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<v Speaker 3>that he's lost. But relatively speaking, he has more to

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<v Speaker 3>be proud of because he started at a lot worse spot,

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<v Speaker 3>relatively speaking than I did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's something to be proud of, lightly sarcastic, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I shouldn't have been up to over three hundred and

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<v Speaker 2>fifty pounds, right, So you you have.

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<v Speaker 3>In terms of more to be proud of you've had.

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<v Speaker 3>You've lost more weight proportionally than I have, and so

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<v Speaker 3>you should be.

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<v Speaker 2>More proud, could be prouder than I am.

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<v Speaker 3>But we both still lost weight.

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<v Speaker 2>Correct. We both laugh because now I don't do this.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a freezer full of frozen crumbled cookie.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't have a freezer that has one frozen crumble

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<v Speaker 3>cookie in it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, back there, you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Choking on anything but like a frozen crumbled cookie. So

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<v Speaker 3>relatively again, relatively speaking, he and I will h You know, well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't Dragon doesn't weigh every day. I tend to

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<v Speaker 3>weigh every day because I I'm just I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just a habit now, and so if if I

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<v Speaker 3>bump up a couple of pounds, I know exactly what

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<v Speaker 3>I've done. But in the grand scheme of things, unless

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<v Speaker 3>I just continually gain weight, and so I go from

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<v Speaker 3>my current weight and suddenly I'm back to where I

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<v Speaker 3>was ten years ago, then I failed.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I think in many ways.

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<v Speaker 3>Adding a few more billions of dollars or actually now

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<v Speaker 3>trillions of dollars to the national of debt in the

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<v Speaker 3>grand scheme of things for a country that's already left.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's just going to speed up the point where

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<v Speaker 3>the cadaver finally just gives up the spirit and we

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<v Speaker 3>start all over again. The point being that what I

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<v Speaker 3>want to do in the next hour is kind of

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<v Speaker 3>put it in a little bit of perspective, because there

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<v Speaker 3>are things to be irritated about, and there's some things

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<v Speaker 3>that we recognize that are good. So we take the

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<v Speaker 3>good with the bad, take the win, and we move

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<v Speaker 3>on to try to fix the other stuff. I'm still irritated,

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<v Speaker 3>don't get me wrong. I'm still irritated. And some of

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<v Speaker 3>the things that irritate me now are the claims like

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<v Speaker 3>Clara McCaskill about millions of people are gonna lose Medicaid coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>What if I told you that might be true, but

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<v Speaker 3>I don't give you any context to it. I just

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<v Speaker 3>tell you that, yeah, you know what, there are millions

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<v Speaker 3>of people might lose Medicaid coverage. Well, what if I

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<v Speaker 3>told you that the bill does indeed introduce significant Medicaid

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<v Speaker 3>cuts that could result in millions losing coverage over time.

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<v Speaker 3>But that's because the bill also includes Medicaid reforms that

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<v Speaker 3>are going to result in stricter eligibility and more accountability

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<v Speaker 3>for those who are on Medicaid to make certain that

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<v Speaker 3>they continue to meet the requirements to be on Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 3>The Congressional Budget Office, in the notes and the bill

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<v Speaker 3>estimates that the changes to Medicaid could lead up to

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<v Speaker 3>Now that this is the CBO, so take it with

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<v Speaker 3>a grain of salt, but they estimate that the changes

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<v Speaker 3>can lead up to eight point six million people losing

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<v Speaker 3>health coverage over a decade. All right, so eight million

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<v Speaker 3>over ten years, and it's primarily for Medicaid. Now, there's

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<v Speaker 3>also losses that nobody seems to want to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>that come from some of the reforms to the Affordable

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<v Speaker 3>Care Act Obamacare. So here are some of the specifics.

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<v Speaker 3>What are the Medicaid cuts in the big the one

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<v Speaker 3>Big Beautiful Bill and the OBBB. We'll call it the OBBB.

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<v Speaker 3>So what are the requirements in the OBB It tries

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<v Speaker 3>to save about to save eight hundred and eighty billion

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<v Speaker 3>dollars over ten years, primarily through proposals that came out

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<v Speaker 3>of the House Energy and Commerce Committee. They are cuts

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<v Speaker 3>and reforms. Both these are what I consider to be

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<v Speaker 3>what I found so far to be I think the

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<v Speaker 3>key components one there's a work requirement. Able body adults

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<v Speaker 3>between the ages of nineteen and sixty four who have

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<v Speaker 3>no dependence must work, volunteer, or be enrolled in some

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<v Speaker 3>accredited institution of education for at least eighty hours per

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<v Speaker 3>month twenty hours per week in order to qualify for Medicaid. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>that requirement was originally set to begin in twenty twenty nine.

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<v Speaker 3>If that were the case, I would be arguing, right now,

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<v Speaker 3>that's absurd. Well, they accelerated it to next year, primarily

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<v Speaker 3>because of Chip Roy from Texas, who wanted even more cuts.

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<v Speaker 3>But he wanted to start right now. The others wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to wait till twenty twenty nine. Now, why why do

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<v Speaker 3>I have to ask? Do I have to answer the

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<v Speaker 3>question for you? Why would they wait until twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>nine to implement a work requirement for medicaid? What's happening

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<v Speaker 3>in twenty twenty eight Dragon.

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<v Speaker 2>The presidential election? Oh yeah, yeah, so we have to

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<v Speaker 2>wait ti life for that. So they did, you know?

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<v Speaker 3>So, For as much as I've criticized them, I will

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<v Speaker 3>at least give them kudos for accelerating that work requirement

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<v Speaker 3>to twenty twenty six. Campaign on it, be proud of it,

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<v Speaker 3>say to the millions of people that voted for Donald Trump,

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<v Speaker 3>that yes, we decided that if your able body between

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<v Speaker 3>the ages of nineteen and sixty four, you got to work,

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<v Speaker 3>you got to be actively engaged in volunteer programs, or

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to be enrolled in an accredited program of

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<v Speaker 3>education for twenty hours a week to qualify for Medicaid. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>the CBO estimates that that requirement could exclude one point

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<v Speaker 3>five million people from Medicaid. And of the one point

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<v Speaker 3>five million, there would be about a little over half

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<v Speaker 3>a million, about six hundred thousand that might become actually uninsured. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't seem all that bad to me, because why

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<v Speaker 3>would you become Why would you get excluded? Well, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you're out of the date range. Maybe there's some reas

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<v Speaker 3>and that you don't want to work or volunteer, or

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<v Speaker 3>you don't want to go back to school, or you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to stay in school or whatever. Okay, whether

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<v Speaker 3>you've made that choice, and if that means you get

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<v Speaker 3>kicked off, well then sucks to be you. But that's

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<v Speaker 3>those are the choices that you made. That's based on

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<v Speaker 3>the CBO estimate. Is I shouldn't say based, but they

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<v Speaker 3>cite a study from George's Medicaid work requirement program that

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<v Speaker 3>showed that a lot of the eligible individuals failed to

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<v Speaker 3>meet those requirements because of the administrative burden, not because

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<v Speaker 3>they aren't working, but because it was too much to

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<v Speaker 3>try to do all the paperwork. In that study, they

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<v Speaker 3>found that ninety two percent of Medicaid recipients were either working,

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<v Speaker 3>disabled caregivers, or that they were in school, meaning those

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<v Speaker 3>requirements might disproportionately affect those that are already compliant with

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<v Speaker 3>a work requirement, but they're just simply unable to navigate

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<v Speaker 3>the paperwork. That absolutely believable. Hell's bills, Dragon, going to

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<v Speaker 3>tell you, I find the paperwork in this in this

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<v Speaker 3>building to be absurd. I'm trying to get the television

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<v Speaker 3>fixed in I haven't been down there, Dragon, because I

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<v Speaker 3>know you haven't been down there. I've been down So

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<v Speaker 3>I finally talked to one of the engineers and they

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<v Speaker 3>walked me through the process. And the drop down menus

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<v Speaker 3>are absurd. But I finally got a request in. We'll

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<v Speaker 3>see what happens. Now. How could it lead to a

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<v Speaker 3>coverage loss a work requirement? Well, again, it's the administrative

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<v Speaker 3>barriers like proving compliance on a monthly basis, Well, that

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<v Speaker 3>could cost someone who's actually eligible to lose their coverage.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you have people that live in a rural area.

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<v Speaker 3>If you live in Campo, Colorado, Mike Is, there's not

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of job opportunities. There's no educational opportunities that

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<v Speaker 3>I know. I don't even think there's a public school

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<v Speaker 3>in Campo itself. And insofar as a volunteer opportunity, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, volunteer to watch how many cattle trucks drive

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<v Speaker 3>through town? Do it for the county?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying that there are probably areas where it's

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<v Speaker 3>just you know, some people will just be kicked off.

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<v Speaker 3>But let's go back to the administrative requirements. That's the bureaucracy,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the deep state. Well, why doesn't Congress then step

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<v Speaker 3>up and require the deep state, the Medicaid administrators to

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<v Speaker 3>streamline the paperwork. Why not do that? There's also a

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<v Speaker 3>requirement for scharricter eligibility verification. Kind of gets back to

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<v Speaker 3>the administrative problem. Because this resolution, this bill House Resolution

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<v Speaker 3>one is what's.

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<v Speaker 2>Called the OBBB.

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<v Speaker 3>It requires Medicaid recipients to verify their eligibility twice a

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<v Speaker 3>year instead of once a year. Oh oh, what a burden.

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<v Speaker 3>That's awful. Of course, I'm being facetious. If you're taking

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<v Speaker 3>opm other people's money, including my great great great grandchildren

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<v Speaker 3>who have yet to be born, if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>have any because we got that much debt piled on,

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<v Speaker 3>then the least you can do is twice a year

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<v Speaker 3>prove that you're eligible to take other people's money. It

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<v Speaker 3>also mandates that there be a home address verification, and

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<v Speaker 3>if your home exceeds a value over a million dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>then year excluded. Now, considering what's going on in the

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<v Speaker 3>real estate market, that might be questionable because there are

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<v Speaker 3>probably some seniors or some medicaid recipients that are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>of course whom I'd give them advice. But you might

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<v Speaker 3>want to call Frank Durant and get that house sold

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<v Speaker 3>and get that equity out of there, quit paying those

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<v Speaker 3>stupid property taxes and gont go downsize if you could.

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<v Speaker 3>But it would exclude an applicant if you have an

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<v Speaker 3>asset a home that's valued over a million dollars on

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<v Speaker 3>the service. That seems pretty reasonable to me because unless

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<v Speaker 3>you've got a million dollar mortgage on that million dollar home.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you know, if you got a million dollar mortgage

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<v Speaker 3>on the home and you are servicing a million dollar mortgage,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got some sort of cash flow somewhere, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you shouldn't be a medicaid. This is the harsh reality

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<v Speaker 3>of dealing with entitlements, dealing with when you're using your

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<v Speaker 3>tax dollars, my tax dollars. When you're when you're expropriately

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<v Speaker 3>can go give it to somebody else, then yeah, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to make sure that whoever you're giving I career,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd perfect prefer.

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<v Speaker 3>To keep it myself, selfish mastard that I am. But

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<v Speaker 3>if we're going to have a government social safety net

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<v Speaker 3>as opposed to a private or volunteer social safety net,

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<v Speaker 3>then yeah, I want I want some eligibility requirements to

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<v Speaker 3>be met. And you know what's bizarre about me making

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<v Speaker 3>that statement. Most volunteer organizations also have eligibility requirements. You

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<v Speaker 3>to get free whatever it is. Okay, Well prove to

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<v Speaker 3>us that you're you meet our requirements to get it

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<v Speaker 3>for free. Well, how could that lead to a coverage loss? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>if you happen to be a low, low income individual,

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<v Speaker 3>provide documentation that could lead to disenrollment. The home value restriction,

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<v Speaker 3>which obviously is trying to target wealthier applicants, may affect

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<v Speaker 3>you know, edge cases, you know, cases on the margin

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<v Speaker 3>in high cost housing markets. If if you live in

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<v Speaker 3>a well, I was gonna say a rent controls apartment,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm most sure this would apply to an apartment. But

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<v Speaker 3>if you live in a high rent area and you've

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<v Speaker 3>just lived there all your life, high value area, and

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<v Speaker 3>you bought your home for you know, seventy five thousand

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<v Speaker 3>dollars and now it's worth more than a million dollars,

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<v Speaker 3>but that you have no other income, and maybe you

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<v Speaker 3>can sell right now because there's nothing that you could

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you get your million dollars out of your home. Oh,

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<v Speaker 3>they're gonna hit you with capital gains tax on something

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<v Speaker 3>over what over half a million or something. Maybe it's

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<v Speaker 3>more than that for couples. I don't know, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>So you're not going to get a million dollars out

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<v Speaker 2>Then there's another.

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<v Speaker 3>Part, another reason why Democrats are screaming about people being

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<v Speaker 3>losing their health fit because there's going to be reduced

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<v Speaker 3>federal funding and there's going to be an increase in

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<v Speaker 3>cost shore. I'll explain what.

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<v Speaker 2>That means next.

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<v Speaker 1>You usually do very well at thinking outside the box,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you're missing the point here. One of

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<v Speaker 1>the big concerns a lot of the Democrats have been

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<v Speaker 1>banking that is there is not enough people for the workforce.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing this to affect medicaid will get a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>people to get off their duff and even volunteer at

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<v Speaker 1>like ranches or helping at the produce production places.

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<v Speaker 3>By with all due respect, do you really think someone

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<v Speaker 3>who's been milking medicaid medicaid for years is going to

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<v Speaker 3>go work in a produce plant or work on a ranch.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever worked on a ranch? You ever bailed hay,

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<v Speaker 3>you ever drilled the pickup truck? Out of the back

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<v Speaker 3>forty dump all the hay out to feed the cattle

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<v Speaker 3>and make sure the water tank was full. That's work,

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<v Speaker 3>that's real work. I don't think they'll volunteer to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure they would work to get paid to

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<v Speaker 3>do that either, but maybe they will. Maybe you're right,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe they will. I think what will happen is if

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<v Speaker 3>if people are let's set of, let's set aside for

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<v Speaker 3>a moment, those who are incapable of dealing with the paperwork, elderly,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, maybe low IQ, what whatever the situation circumstances

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<v Speaker 3>might be. Uh, those people probably should have some sort

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<v Speaker 3>of assistance, which I'm sure there'll be volunteer organizations. There

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<v Speaker 3>will probably be even divisions. But you know, it'd be

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<v Speaker 3>like going to a Social Security office and telling them, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've reached the age where I need to

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<v Speaker 3>apply I'm not sure how to do it or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't to do it online or I don't

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<v Speaker 3>have a computer or whatever it is, and they'll walk

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<v Speaker 3>you through and do it for you. But regardless of

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<v Speaker 3>any of that, just requiring some sort of work, volunteer

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<v Speaker 3>or being getting an education, I think it is a

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<v Speaker 3>minimal requirement.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me, So what.

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<v Speaker 3>There is reduced federal funding and they have increased the

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<v Speaker 3>cost sharing for the states. Now you know that Medicaid

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<v Speaker 3>is actually administered by the states, and a lot of states,

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<v Speaker 3>excuse me, Colorado, California, I'm looking at you actually allow

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<v Speaker 3>illegal aliens on the program. So the OBBB that may

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<v Speaker 3>have been too many b's, I don't know. The OBBB

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<v Speaker 3>actually reduces what's called the federal medical assistance percentage. For

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<v Speaker 3>states that expanded Medicaid using Obamacare, they'll cut the federal

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<v Speaker 3>contributions by ten percent if your state covers illegal aliens.

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<v Speaker 3>So California, New York, Colorado, all of these blue states

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<v Speaker 3>that are doing it, you're going to have to make

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<v Speaker 3>up that difference, or you're going to figure out a

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<v Speaker 3>way to reverse your dumbass policy of American taxpayers subsidizing

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<v Speaker 3>the healthcare of people who are in this country illegally

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<v Speaker 3>and who aren't working, or are not getting an education

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<v Speaker 3>or what. Well, frankly, just the fact they're here illegally.

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<v Speaker 3>In my opinion, they should not be entitled to any

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<v Speaker 3>of our benefits other than the protections they're due. That

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<v Speaker 3>anybody would do that would be entitled to under our constitution.

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<v Speaker 3>Whether you're here as a visitor on a tourist visa,

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<v Speaker 3>or you're from a country that doesn't require a truist visa,

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<v Speaker 3>you're here on a business trip, or whatever, you're still

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<v Speaker 3>subject to the same criminal laws, due process, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>By got all of that all right, This bill also

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<v Speaker 3>introduces copays up to thirty five dollars per visit. It

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<v Speaker 3>does exclude emergency, prenatal, pediatric, or primary care for recipients

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<v Speaker 3>earning above one hundred percent of the federal poverty level,

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<v Speaker 3>which I think is around thirty two thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 3>a family of four. And then it freezes state provided

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<v Speaker 3>state provider taxes which fund Medicaid, which will potentially reduce

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<v Speaker 3>state budgets. So what's the impact. Go back to the CBO.

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<v Speaker 3>They say those funding changes could save could save five

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and sixty one billion dollars over the next decade.

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<v Speaker 3>Then you have reduced federal support, which will force states

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<v Speaker 3>to tighten eligibility. They'll have to probably cut some benefits.

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<v Speaker 3>They'll certainly have to stop the stupid Obamacare expansions. And

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<v Speaker 3>the only place I can find a citation for the

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<v Speaker 3>consequences of that is from the Urban Institute, a very

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<v Speaker 3>left leaning organization. Will They project that cutting the federal

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<v Speaker 3>medical assistance percentage could lead to about fifteen million losing

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<v Speaker 3>coverage if states abandon the expansions.

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<v Speaker 2>States may not.

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<v Speaker 3>So once and if the states don't, and you're like

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado and you can't deficit spend, they'll either try to

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<v Speaker 3>raid tabor or they'll try to impose a increase on us.

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<v Speaker 3>It'll all be done in the name of how can

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<v Speaker 3>you be such a cold hearted human being that you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to support someone on medicaid who came to

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<v Speaker 3>the country illegally. Well, I'll raise my hand. You can

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<v Speaker 3>call me cold hearted, but I think if you came

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<v Speaker 3>to the country illegally, you need to go back home.

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<v Speaker 3>Or if you're going to stay here until we until

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<v Speaker 3>we send you back home, we shouldn't be paying you

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<v Speaker 3>to be here. Why why should we pay you when

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<v Speaker 3>you broke the law and you came here and now

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<v Speaker 3>you want us to take care of you. No, Na,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's not going to happen. So how could it

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<v Speaker 3>lead to coverage loss? The states that faced the budget

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<v Speaker 3>shortfalls would probably try to reduce Medicaid roles or benefits,

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<v Speaker 3>particularly in those so called expansion states where they've been

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<v Speaker 3>expanding it and providing it to more and more people

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<v Speaker 3>all the time, and then the co pays themselves might

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<v Speaker 3>lead to some lapse coverage for those who can't afford

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<v Speaker 3>the out of pocket expense.

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<v Speaker 2>I would again say, this.

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<v Speaker 3>Is where because we've advocated our compassion to the government

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<v Speaker 3>that if if you wanted to start a nonprofit that

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<v Speaker 3>would help people navigate, you could probably have a You

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<v Speaker 3>could probably make a go of that. Or I would

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<v Speaker 3>even say if you wanted to start a nonprofit where

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<v Speaker 3>you raise money to help people that can't afford to

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<v Speaker 3>pay for the co pays, you could probably do that.

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<v Speaker 3>There are enough compassionate people in this country. We're the

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<v Speaker 3>most giving country in the world, and people are always

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<v Speaker 3>willing to give. I mean, he's bills, look at the

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<v Speaker 3>Look at the probably billions of dollars that we give

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<v Speaker 3>to save animals in this country. So if you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to save someone who's you know, elderly and can't get

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<v Speaker 3>out of their home and doesn't even know what a computer,

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<v Speaker 3>they may know what a computer is, but they don't

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<v Speaker 3>have one, but know how to operate one they went

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<v Speaker 3>to the library. I'm sorry to the library and try

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<v Speaker 3>to operate the computer that has had somebody that help

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<v Speaker 3>them do it. That that might be a nonprofit that

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<v Speaker 3>would work. But then there's there are specific and here's

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<v Speaker 3>where you'll probably some people's heads will explode. There are

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<v Speaker 3>some restrictions for Medicaid eligibility on specific populations, specific groups

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<v Speaker 3>of people. It prohibits Medicaid funds funds from going to

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<v Speaker 3>organizations like Planned Parenthood YEP. It also explicitly excludes undocked

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<v Speaker 3>illegal aliens from Medicaid, and there are penalties for states

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<v Speaker 3>that allow the coverage. So defunding Planned Parenthood could limit

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<v Speaker 3>access to non abortion services, which is a very small

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<v Speaker 3>port for Medicaid recipients million areas with few alternative providers.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm just trying to be objective here. Excluding

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<v Speaker 3>an illegal alien. Well, that absolutely aligns with GOP goals

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<v Speaker 3>to limit benefits to citizens. But of course it's going

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<v Speaker 3>to affect states that have all those stupid policies that say, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we don't care whether you we don't check, just show

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<v Speaker 3>up and we'll just pay for you. And states have

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<v Speaker 3>that attitude because it's o PM other people's money. The

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<v Speaker 3>CBO's estimate of eight point six million losing coverage is

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<v Speaker 3>seven point six to ten point three million from Medicaid specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>is driven by all of these provisions that I just

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<v Speaker 3>described to you. Now, the Center for American Progress, which

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<v Speaker 3>is one of the most progressive organizations in the country,

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<v Speaker 3>they're out there citing that thirteen million people are going

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<v Speaker 3>to lose coverage by by twenty thirty four, including the

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<v Speaker 3>eight point six million, so actually twenty one million. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't believe those numbers whatsoever because they have a

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<v Speaker 3>vested interest because what does the Center for American Progress want.

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<v Speaker 3>They want socialized medicine. They win a single payer as

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<v Speaker 3>system in this country. So when you think about from

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<v Speaker 3>the Republican perspective, these reforms actually strengthen and sustain medicaid

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<v Speaker 3>because it roots out all the ways fraud and abuse.

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<v Speaker 3>It actually ensures that the benefits are intended to go

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<v Speaker 3>to those that are actually in need, mothers, children that disabled.

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<v Speaker 3>The work requirement and the verification targets make certain that

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<v Speaker 3>only those who meet the requirements are going to get

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<v Speaker 3>oh PM. So why why is it out there in screen? Well,

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<v Speaker 3>because you're being gasolined millions. The people are gonna lose

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<v Speaker 3>their health care, well not necessarily, so don't believe everything

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<v Speaker 3>that you hear.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, Michael, I kind of got a question. I was

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<v Speaker 2>wondering about something.

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<v Speaker 3>Out of everybody that's gotten Medicaid, that are eligible for Medicaid,

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<v Speaker 3>how many actually.

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<v Speaker 2>Use Medicaid And is it costing us to have them

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<v Speaker 2>on the rolls if they're not using Medicaid. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know just what I was thinking. I never thought about that. Why.

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<v Speaker 3>I suppose you could go and roll in Medicaid because

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<v Speaker 3>you've met the qualifications and then you never have an

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<v Speaker 3>annual exam or you never get sick, you never need

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<v Speaker 3>a surgery, or I suppose that's possible. I don't know

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<v Speaker 3>how you find that number out, but that does. Speaking

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<v Speaker 3>of numbers, to me, tabs open them number Goober, number

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<v Speaker 3>forty three, twenty one. I'm a retired occupational therapist. In

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one, when I was still licensed, I received

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<v Speaker 3>a letter from Dora. They were looking for Health First Colorado,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the Medicaid providers. They were looking for those providers

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<v Speaker 3>and what mean to consider becoming one. This statement in

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<v Speaker 3>the letter took my breath away. Quote, one in four

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<v Speaker 3>Colorados are Health First Colorado members, and more providers are

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<v Speaker 3>needed to help treat the influx of new Health First

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<v Speaker 3>Colorado members. They write, Now this was during COVID, but

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<v Speaker 3>still it is a staggering number. One quarter of the

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<v Speaker 3>state population on Medicaid. Well, it wasn't that I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>trust you, but I didn't trust you, So I ask,

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<v Speaker 3>what's the percentage of the Colorado population is on Medicaid.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the raw number as of twenty twenty three, Approximately

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<v Speaker 3>thirty percent, So it's way above Now you're twenty five

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<v Speaker 3>percent from twenty twenty one. Yeah, we've gone from your

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<v Speaker 3>twenty five percent and now thirty percent. Approximately thirty percent

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<v Speaker 3>of Colorado's population was enrolled in Medicaid Health First Colorado.

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<v Speaker 3>With Colorad's population estimated around five point eight million people,

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<v Speaker 3>that translates to roughly one point seven four million people

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<v Speaker 3>in this state on Medicaid. Now, those numbers might fluctuate

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<v Speaker 3>because we started doing this process back in twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 3>three called unwinding, which led to some disenrollments, people dropping

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<v Speaker 3>off the Medicaid system. But there's more recent data from

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<v Speaker 3>October of last year that indicates we've gone from one

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<v Speaker 3>point seven four million down to one point one eighty

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<v Speaker 3>five million, one million, eighty five eleven Coloradens currently covered

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<v Speaker 3>by Medicaid. But again that is a post unwinding drop

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<v Speaker 3>and probably doesn't capture the full population percentage. See this

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<v Speaker 3>is the progressives objective. Start pushing people off you know,

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<v Speaker 3>private healthcare and get them onto government run healthcare. Now

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<v Speaker 3>we know it doesn't work. We we we've got the proof,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got the receipts. All you have to do is

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<v Speaker 3>look at the national health system, which is literally breaking

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<v Speaker 3>the bank in the United Kingdom and leading to really

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<v Speaker 3>bad health outcomes. Socialized medicine has never worked, and socialized

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<v Speaker 3>medicine is just one of the steps toward Marxism and communism.

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<v Speaker 3>You control a person's health, you control everything. And when

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<v Speaker 3>the government controls healthcare, I mean to go to make

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<v Speaker 3>a giant leap here, but it's not that far of

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<v Speaker 3>a leap. You end up with vans like you have

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<v Speaker 3>in China that oh guys, we need.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you get us? Yeah, we need a kidney. Can

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<v Speaker 2>you find us a kidney? Sure? Does it need to match?

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<v Speaker 3>Who cares? Just go find one? Okay, guys, get in

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<v Speaker 3>the van.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 3>Throw them in, cut them up, anesthesia. You don't need

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<v Speaker 3>no sneak in anesthesia. Just cut him up, cut it out,

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<v Speaker 3>throw him out the back door.

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<v Speaker 2>Drive on
