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Speaker 1: There are other coins that were made in Syria in

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that time period or a little before that, are made

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out of billin, which is silver and bronze mixed together.

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They are tetradrachms, and there's an abundance of those two

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again affordable. You can buy a you know, I think

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it's probably ten or eleven gram billon coin of let's say,

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who would be a good hostilion or any of the

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emperors from that time period, and you could probably buy

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it for fifty bucks. And so the prices are astonishingly low.

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But when I tell you what the high end is,

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I think it'll also surprise you.

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Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial

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Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. Well, we got

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a new take on a very old thing. You like gold,

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you like silver, that's great, Well, collecting coins. Ancient coins

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in particular, could give you the benefits of both. Many

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of these coins can be had close to Spot. They

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definitely have collectible values and they tell stories. And Dean

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Kinser is with us now kinsercoins dot com, k I

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n z e er coins dot com and if you

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got a question for him or myself, shoot me an

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email kl at Carrie Lutz dot com. Dean, great to

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have you on the show, so thank you so much. Hey,

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I never thought of this, but I do know because

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some modern coins have I have had some collectible values.

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And I remember my friend Chris Wayne haven't talked to

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him lately, kind of fell out of touch, but he

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started making coins like anti royalty coins and things like that,

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and they wound up selling two three times over Spot.

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So tell us about this opportunity here.

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Speaker 1: Well, first of all, thank you so much Carrie for

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having me on. A big fan and really an impressive

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fourteen years of putting together podcasts and helping people out,

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So thank you so much for having me on. Ancient

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coins are really what I would consider kind of a

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mystery to Americans, not because Americans aren't in tune with things,

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but it's really kind of an interesting hobby one that

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started in Europe way back when when they're you know,

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were there was royalty that kept some of these ancient

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coins and started collecting them over time, and then they

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started to share information between each other, and as time

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went on, they started to make their way into the

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States and people started to learn a little bit. But

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really the kind of overarching idea behind ancient coins has

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really yet to take hold. And that's why I'm here.

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I've actually been called the kind of apostle of ancient

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coins because I am preaching for people to get interested

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in them. Ancient coins really started out about six hundred

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and fifty BC in the western Aisles of Turkey. They

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started out as little electroum, which is gold and silver

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mixed globs, and then as time went on, people started

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to counterfeit them, so they advanced them beyond and they

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started to put striations, and then once people counterfeited that,

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they went to images. So about six hundred BC coins

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started to have images on them of animals, creases. If

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you've ever heard the as rich as Crisus, which is

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used to be a common saying, he obviously king of Lydia.

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The man King Midas was kind of represented for he

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really took coinage to the next level, started creating denominations,

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different types, silver, gold, bronze, each one of those types

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having a value and a meaning, and that really kind

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of spread throughout the Greek world. All of the city

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states started creating their own coinage and trying to make

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it kind of the US dollar of the time. So

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as time went on Athens, the attic owl became the

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money of the time, and then further on it became

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the shekel of tire, which we all familiar about, and

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then the Roman denarius. So each one of those types

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has a series of coins that came from there. Each

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one of them is very interesting, all of them have

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great stories behind them, and I'm just on the edge

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of my feet trying to tell everybody about them. It's

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really my mission in life.

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Speaker 3: That's really cool. And you said your father was a collector.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so if the reason it's named Kinser Coins is

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because I'm trying to carry on the legacy of my father.

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but you would say that he it was a collector

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of very interesting things. Carrie and I talked a little

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bit about some of the eclectic things he collected, one

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of them being a you go. He had upwards of

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twelve to thirteen ugos at any given time, so that

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kind of tells you the taste that he had. So

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he had interests, American coins, baseball cards, all magazines, you

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name it. And so as he got ill, and I

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kind of moved in with him to kind of take

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care of him as he moved on to the next life,

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I had to manage his a state. And so as

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I was managing as a state, I went through a

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lot of things, and the one thing I couldn't let

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go of were the ancient coins in his collection. And

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he was a very biblical man, very Christian man, ordained minister,

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so he had ancient coins that were very specific to

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the Bible. So he probably had thirty to forty shekels

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of tire, He had any number of widows mites and

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tribute pennies. Is really what caught me. A denarius of

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Tiberius with his mom Livia on the reverse, a tribute penny,

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but then also a tribute penny in the Bible render

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onto Caesar what is Caesar's And I just really had

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a hard time selling it. And it really gives me

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an opportunity to carry on his legacy beyond his time here.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so you know, for somebody just starting out in

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this type of collecting, which seems really cool to me,

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how do you start?

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Speaker 1: What do you buy? Sure? So my recommendation to everyone.

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Ancient coins obviously are not well. I will tell you

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they are not set up like American coins. American coins

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have a regimented grading system and organization. Ancient coins are

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still a little bit of the wild West, which gives

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you the opportunity to kind of you know, hit low

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and getting gain high. There's opportunity there, but because that

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it's not well known, and because there's opportunities out there

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for people to make mistakes what they're buying. My partner

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and I, Josh Benavento, have created a podcast, the Ancient

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Coin Hour, which gives you quite a bit of insight

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into the business of coins. So we host and we

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have on people in the industry, the owners of the

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major companies, collectors, dealers, you name it, so you can

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get used to the industry. But then we tell you

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where to shop, who we trust. You know, what are

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the things you look for in a dealer that you

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can have faith in and he will help you. One

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of the main things that you should always look for

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is a dealer with a lifetime guarantee because of the

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risk that is associated with coins. If something over time

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turns out to be fake, your dealer should accept that

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at full price return. That's what I stand on, That's

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what everyone's stands everyone that's reputable in the industry stands on,

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So we look for that. I always recommend stay away

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from eBay until you get familiar with the material that's

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on there. There are a lot of opportunities for people

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to sell you what I know, cast copies from Eastern

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Europe or any number of places. And like anyone else,

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I've made terrible mistakes buying stuff. But that's why we

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decided that there was a just a desperate need for

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people to learn about this and not make those mistakes. Well,

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we know, go here.

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Speaker 3: It's been said that a smart man will learn from

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his own mistakes, a wise man will learn from the

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mistakes of others. So maybe if we go to you,

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we can avoid those other mistakes.

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Speaker 1: That's perfect, Yeah, that's exactly right. In terms of what

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to buy. You know, I can make some recommendations on here.

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Some of the things that are great about ancient coins

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is there's a lot of different areas of appeal. So

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if you're into astrology, you can collect an entire set

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of Antoninus Pious astrology coins with the astrological symbols on

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the reverse. There's animals. There's all kinds of little collecting

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areas that you can get involved in, but I would

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always encourage you to kind of start smaller. There's an

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entire group of coins, they call them late Roman bronzes.

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when Rome kind of started to how do I say,

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pull back some of the stronger currency and flood the

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market heavily with bronze. So there's an abundance of them.

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But you can buy a coin of Constantine the Great

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from about three twenty five AD for about twenty to

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twenty five dollars in good condition, not in like worn,

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but in readable, understandable conditions, so to be. That's a

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great start. And there's about because of a lot of

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succession crisises and all that kind of stuff, there's a

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ton of different emperors that came through during that time period.

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ended up dying terribly, you know, in some kind of

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assassination or something. But each one of these has a

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story behind it, and you know, it just keeps feeding

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kind of to I don't want to call it an addiction,

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but an interest, hunger for history, and that's why I keep,

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you know, keep going into it. There are other coins

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that were made in Syria in that time period or

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is silver and bronze mixed together. They are tetradrachms, and

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there's an abundance of those two again affordable. You can

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eleven gram billin coin of let's say, who would be

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a good hostilion or any of the emperors from that

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time period, and you could probably buy it for fifty bucks.

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also surprise you. Like if I was to ask you,

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what do you think a Julius Caesar elephant Denarius in

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really good condition would be worth? Now I know you're

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not you don't know that, but just take a guess

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Speaker 3: What's it made out of silver?

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Speaker 1: Three point eight grams?

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Speaker 3: It's can't be worth more than a couple hundred bucks.

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should go for a lot more than that. But there's

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a bunch of them around and it there is onun stars.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bringing them in so you can. You can buy

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Speaker 4: In what I would call kind of low end grade good,

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very good in the five hundred to one thousand range,

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and I would say an excellent condition from like really

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nice between five and ten thousand dollars.

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Speaker 1: To own a coin of Julius Caesar, not a you know,

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a three cent piece from eighteen sixty five, a coin

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that was minted in forty eight pc.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's really cool, Dean. So

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how do we find you? How do we connect with you?

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I like what you're selling here and I'm definitely going

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to place an order with you. But for those of

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you out there who are watching or listening, how do

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Speaker 1: Okay, well, so come to my website. It's www dot

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kinzercoins dot com. K I n Z E r cooins

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dot com UH, and I have a website there where

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I have all of my inventory. I have a large

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inventory that's kind of based on new collectors. So there's

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packaged goods, you know, where you can collect or you

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can get a widow's mite in a nice box, or

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you can get a little more you know, UH intentional

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about it and buy a specific denarius UH integrated UH

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plastic kit. So lots of different opportunities. And then I

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have links to my podcast and other sister companies there

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that we we trust and we have faith in. We

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can we can make your coins into jewelry. We can

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do all kinds of things. But if you go to

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kinsercoins dot com check us out, UH and we'd be

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happy to help you learn a little bit about ancient

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coins and then become a collector.

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Speaker 3: I love it, man, so cool. Love what you're doing.

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Keep doing it. It sounds like you found your niche.

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Speaker 1: We just asked.

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Speaker 3: When you go there, please sign up for your free newsletter.

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