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We got Brett always bringing a hammer. Brett Brother, How

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are we doing today?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, we are approaching Christmas.

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Speaker 4: I'm happy to say as of December seventeenth, the last

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gift that I have to give has been wrapped and

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Speaker 3: The tree is full. I'm done with Christmas Day preparation.

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So that's number one.

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Speaker 4: Number two, I think I may have just found the

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best idea on the entire Internet right now scrolling through Twitter.

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And I don't know how fully familiar you are or

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how familiar our listeners are with mister Beasts, but he's

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one of the biggest YouTubers in the entire.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I am a fan of mister Beast, I can't

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say that, and if.

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Speaker 3: You're not, if you're a little bit older.

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Speaker 4: Mister Beast basically is a super rich YouTuber who just

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spends literally just gobs of money on these ridiculous fanatical videos.

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Well heard bros on X tweeted someone said mister Beaese

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should do a video where he pays for a G

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five team to win a national championship. And I actually

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think that's a genius idea that would fascinate sports fans everywhere.

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Can you imagine if mister Beese just said, because like

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he's he's got a billion dollars, what if he just says, hey,

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for one year, I'm going all in, We're doing one

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hundred and fifty million dollar roster for the year. Everybody's

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going to SUU and SUU or whoever. I guess that

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maybe not s YOUU, but some G five team, Utah State,

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whatever it is. Everybody's going to logan one hundred and

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fifty million dollars worth of roster for the Utah State

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Aggies and then they go on to win a national championship.

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I would watch a documentary, I would buy Utah State merch.

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I think that is literally the best idea in all

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of content right now. I need to see that actually.

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Speaker 1: You're a fan of paying for the you know, have

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an opportunity for G five's and that he's okay, I

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mean that that's been kind of what's I guess bugged people.

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I ran into some BYU fans the other day and

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upset about you know, bau still not getting into the

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playoffs still haven't moved on from that. But this is

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a good point that you bring up. The money talks, Brett.

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You and I always talk about this off record. You

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in the viewership and the money, the money talks. If

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someone is paying for it, if that's what drives you know,

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the revenue, the ship or whatever it is, that's gonna speak.

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that too, now that you bring it up, especially because

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mister BC, you think about what he's done with over

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the last Brett, I'm gonna try to say, what seven

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eight years and how he's built his brand. I definitely

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could see this this possibly happening. And look, people can

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say Ron, you're wrong, but this man had a video

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and was like was being featured very much so on

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YouTube for the Chiefs. For the Chargers Chiefs opening game

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in San Polopers are like shooting people through cannon. Still

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believe b why you should shoot Cosma through a cannon?

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They should still that idea. Shoot them through the uprights, right,

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and don't tell me that it's too dangerous. I see

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Cosmo underwater, I see him jump through fire hoop rings,

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don't jump out of a plane, zip line from the

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top of it. Don't tell me that's too dangerous, ron

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because I don't believe you. Guys. It definitely should happen,

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so hopefully sooner rather than later. But yeah, Brett, I'm

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a fan of this. I definitely actually would be intriguing

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and hope this would happen as a fan. Absolutely.

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Speaker 4: I think the only hard part that you'd run into

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with an idea like that is you it's convincing guys

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to come play for a certain coach, right if you

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bought the players that like, Because what you would really

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have to do is you would have to pay the

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school to then fire the coach. So I guess you

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just Okay, here's your buyout. So we're giving you the money,

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the buyout money to fire the coach. Okay, cool, which

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which can be done? Which could be done and have

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to go maybe a little bit, but can be done. Right,

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you were paying the school to fire the coach. Then

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you have to find someone. Maybe you got Kyle Whittingham,

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he's available, I've heard. Then you have to find a

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coach who's capable of winning and coaching that high level

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and staff honestly, and then you have to fill the

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school that way. And then on top of that, then

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you have to go to the best play. You have

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to go to Jeremiah Smith and and the rest.

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Speaker 3: Of these guys all across the country.

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Speaker 4: You got to find a quarterback, and you got to say, hey,

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I'll give you five million dollars for one year. I'm

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doing this for a video. So I'm pulling out of

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the school after this. I don't I mean, on the

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one hand, I don't know that it would work. But

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on the other hand, ron like we are seeing people

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at high level schools transferring to what I feel like

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is a lateral move just for money.

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Speaker 3: Like I think Sam.

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Speaker 4: Levit's in a great spot at Arizona State, you won

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the Big twelve last year. He's he's transferring to a

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school that I think is probably gonna be just a

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lateral move. So you could say, like it's hard to

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convince big level recruits to go to a G five

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school just to play for one year. But with the

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world of the transfer portal that we're living in right now,

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and we're gonna be talking about one of these folks

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who may be entering the transfer portal and potentially coming

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to bou later on in the show, like with what

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the portal is, and frankly, with what money has convinced

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and constrained and conditioned human beings to be and how

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to make their choices. I think it's very possible that

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something like this could work. But to me, that's a

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bigger commentary on what the transfer portal is and really

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how human beings act now based on a one year salary.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you bring up a good point. Look, one year

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deals in college football are all transactional.

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Speaker 3: They are, yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean look, not even just that. Any time now

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in college athletics, when a guy go to the portal,

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it's transactional, right, Look, look at what happens in the

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rest of the Big twelve is to take you guys

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around the state of the Union. Jace Brown, right, good receiver,

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good receiver over there at Kansas State portal. He feels

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to me, Bretton, not to you know, get your high

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hopes up, but he feels like a Georgia guy. He

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feels that way. He feels like an SEC quarter but quarterback,

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excuse me, receiver he does. These guys are getting paid,

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you know, led Kansas State. He can push the ball vertically.

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The only reason that maybe he didn't get the ball

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enough is because Kansas State had no run game, you know,

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until like the last two games of the season. Honestly so,

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but that's the way it is. Is when it's like

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what Drake Tolhead said, everybody has what he calls a

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speed coach. It says, hey, you know this person's willing

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to pay you. This Your agent, as I like to say, it,

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is doing that. And if your agent tells you, hey,

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you can get paid more. An agent knows that he's

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gonna make more off your salary, and then you can

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do this same You're gonna be able to play against

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the best level talent, high level talent, high level conference

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and showcase yourself more to be able to play in

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a prolific conference, the chance to get to the NFL,

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which is where you make even more money. Then why

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would a kid not do that? Right? And that's just

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the way it is. It is transactional though at this point.

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So yeah, I could if someone like mister Beast is

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willing to pay Jeremia Smith one year. I don't think

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every student athlete would do it, Brett, but I could

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definitely see that possible where a quarterback could do it,

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you know, a high level guy. Look, if you pay

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Sam Levitt and you convinced Jeremiah Smith, I think that's possible, right,

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I think Sam will come to you, Tom. But when

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you're getting paid, dude, your market rate or above market

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rate to play the game and do what you love,

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they'll find a way. Right. Look at we look at

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the national televised Look that Chiefs had. How many primetime

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games this season didn't work out?

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Speaker 3: AJ?

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Speaker 1: Now at BYU? How many you know, prolific matchups can

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you schedule? It doesn't matter where the talent goes. I

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tell people that all the time, Like it doesn't people

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always does. It may be to a degree, but not really, Brett.

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If high level talent were to come here or some

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other G five, they're gonna get televised. If everybody went

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to Julane. You know how many nationals and you know

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how many non conference people want to schedule you know

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too lane or have that chance to play. Maybe not

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conference play might not be that way, but that's just

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the way it goes. Because look at AJ demoncea coming

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to BYU, BYU and AJ not getting talked about enough

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as it should be still number two when you look

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at all of these other rankings, putting the other kids

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above them because of you know, maybe place value or

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history or blue blood whatever it may be. So I'm

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with you. I think at the end of the day,

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it does come down to money, and you can pay

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someone to do anything for your Look, I was looking

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at it, and this might people may think this sound crazy.

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I was looking at a job, Well do I do

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this job for a year for one hundred and eighty

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thousand dollars? Like I was looking at the job the

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way now, granted, the stipulation of it is I would

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have to travel, you know, three to five days a week,

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so that'd be tough on my family. But I looked

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at that and I said, well, I could do that

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for a year, like anybody I think can talk about

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Brett doing something for a year because the money talks

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at the end of the day. So I'm glad you

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brought it up, but I would like to see it happen.

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So I guess that's a weird poll of day we

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could put out would you like to see this happen

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if you were a college football fan? So I guess

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we'll just have to see and look, you'd make mister

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be some more content, but you just get paid more.

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Think at the end of today. So I'm a fan

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of it. I would love to see it the behind

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the scenes of it all. He does a good job

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on YouTube, especially some of the videos of people living

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in the stores and other things. So yeah, Brett, I'm down.

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this were to take place.

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million dollar roster, even if they had bought all the

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best players in the world with the committee.

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all I gotta say.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they would, So I just I'm just saying to

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say that, Look, you could be undefeated and it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Just this is how crazy this is BYU could have

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could pay all of that for a year to get

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those people. They could beat to Georgia or Alabama. I

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think in a non conference if this were to happen

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and they still find a way to lose him out, well,

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you know that one loss that you had in the

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conference game that shouldn't count. Look again, I said gerhard

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Street don't trust it, Joe Klatt, don't trust it. I

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get that you're some of the best in your highly

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paid but what you say to me is starting to

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get more I live in a value and I don't.

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I'm not taking you seriously because you can't say on

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national television I don't think a team should be punished.

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But Chris, you and I were at that game and

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there was a despair. That's not how it goes, okay.

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I firmly believe if Tulane came to provo or provo

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or by excuse me, went to down to two Lane

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in New Orleans, or vice versa with James Madison, if

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BYU went there, they came here by you would smoke them.

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One hundred percent. They would. And that's not disrepect to Jake.

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I love Jake. I think jakesonuld quarterback. But Bau's won

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in that game by two scores, if not three. I

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believe that they are. I believe when you match these

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teams up, BYU is talented enough to go in there,

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it's not going to be a one score game. So

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I don't like that they do that. I know that

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according to the levels of the contract, bread and what

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they agreed with with college football, this has to happen.

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But I don't like the stipulations, and I am on

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more of the side of where you lean of Wied

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G fives in even though it's ridden that way, because

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if you were to take these G fives and match

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them up against a team that's Notre Dame or BYU,

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they're out. They're getting smoked that thing nine times out

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of ten, maybe even ten out of ten. And that's

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respect to him. I really believe that.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see that under Willie Fritz and how

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that would go. But I firmly believe and I'm confident

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that this BA football team could be any of those

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G fives on any given day, especially now in the

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Big twelve, with a high level talent that they have gotten.

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I could be wrong, but a like you know, Keiler

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Marion said in a viral video, Lasha boots, Lasha boots,

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As he said, anyway, check out the rest of our

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esp and the fans start a lineup. We got a star.

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Start the cast for this Wednesday edition. In the Nitty Gritty,

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Brett already teased it gonna discuss A certainly teased it

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yesterday A certain usc tight end. I'll just say his

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name has hit the portal, expected to hit the portal.

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Excuse me. We'll get into that here momentarily. Then we'll

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get into our question of the day. We're also gonna

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discuss the two forty five Zach Wilson talk. Now, as

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far as I'm not aware, Zach is not injured, not hurt.

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We're gonna look at his stats, but quinn Ewers named

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the backup. We gotta talk to Cougar's in the pros

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criminal why is Zach not the starter in Miami? To

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a tongue of ioloa not getting it done? And three

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or five are gonna get into Kevin Young Postkins sound

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we switch some things around. So we'll discuss a recap

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BAU Basketball three or five with Kevin Young, and then

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as well as three thirty, we'll get into a little

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reading between the lines with Tyler Russ and Rob Right. TYLERM.

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Russ showed up last night in a Big Time Row

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No a Lexi Coaster. She was out due to illness.

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Perg Gregor Bell and Kevin Young on the pregame show,

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it was a big deal. I thought it turned out

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not to be a big big deal in the end.

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But it felt like a game within a game within

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a game within the game. Some people are gonna say, Ron,

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you're speaking too fast, and that's a tongue twister. If

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you watched last night game, last night's game and Brendan

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I will discuss this later. It felt that way. It

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felt okay, too close and ba he pulls away. Okay,

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Pacific comes back. Is it's gonna be a letdown of

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the WCC? Is it gonna be a delaware You have

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no idea. There were a lot of emotions and roller coasters.

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But highlight Tyler and Rob and play a couple of

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the sound clips here three thirty Little inside our port

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might have a surprise guest join us at four h

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five to discuss the you know this certain tight end

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going into the transfer portal. Maybe we'll discuss that. At

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four thirty. Gonna have Devon Ecka gonna figure out how

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do you pronounce his sexual Is it eca or is

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it Echa? The three star running back signee for BYU football,

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will join us. He'll discuss why he committed to BYU. Look, Brett,

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you know as well as I do. This is a

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position of need. I was at practice today down there talking.

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It doesn't sound like any of the guys have opted

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out yet per kalone. Saitaki speaking of that per kline

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as well, he said this, there's still time up into

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the bowgain. There's still a few more practices. So guys,

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could they still have what Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday before

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they leave on Monday to opt out? But as far,

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nobody yet, But I bring it up. If LJ decides

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to opt out, right, what does that look like? If

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LJ decides to declare, Brett, you need running backs. Even

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if LJ comes back forget this, you need two or

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three more guys. We saw it this year with SIONI

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going down. You didn't get Hinkley back, probably banked on

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a lot more. LJ and Bear cannot carry it a little.

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Like you said, to win a big TEF title. I

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agree with you. But this kid, everything that I've heard,

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everything that I've seen on tape. I you know, Will

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Snowden joined our show a few weeks ago. He can

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come in and impact the program right away. It sounds

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like if this kid hits the potential Brett. He can

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even play at the next level. So we're gonna get

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to know the three star who has committed out of

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Lehigh High School. UH coach by you know some of

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the former by U great Jason Anderson offensive lineman over

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there Lehigh Hill join us at four thirty five five

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a guy that's mentor to Divan as well. We'll get

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him an update on Jamal Williams lu Kahan, the training

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for Jamal is going to join us at five oh

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five for a little college football. Banker will be back

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at four to break those interview downs and discuss that.

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All of that and more and than at five thirty

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will turn it over to the Wolverines Utah Valley Basketball.

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it a little bit, I talked about it. Let's not

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wait any longer. We discussed it a little bit yesterday

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and this is per You know, I believe it's CBS Matt,

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and I'm trying to pull it up right now. A

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national football college senior writer for CBS said USC tight

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end Walker Lines expected to answer the transpporter. Sources tale

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CBS Sports was a class of twenty twenty three top

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one hundred and fifteen overall recruit had twenty catches and

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two touchdowns for the Trojans this past season. He's going

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into the portal. Everybody's been reporting this. Let me read

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specifically what he said, as he's now going into the portal.

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Walker says this as I'm pulling it up right now

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and it doesn't want to load. This is why this

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bad radio, guys. She'll put this up, he says this.

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He says, I'm incredibly grateful for my time here at

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the University of Southern California. It has been an honor

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to put on this jersey of Cardinal and Gold and

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represent them in the manner in this historic program. He's like,

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to my teammates, thank you for pushing me every day,

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building me for what the high standards are and making

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this journey unforgettable. He's like, the relationships we build up

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and it cannot be imaginable, and I will always carry

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that with me. I will always be a Trojan, and

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I will forever as I'm paraphrasing, with everything that comes

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for usc fight on, I will be entering the trans

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report Sorr. I paraphrased some of that. But he is going.

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And you know what the best part about this is,

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it's not that he just said that he was going

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to and he posted that. Do you know if you

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check Instagram and social media, do you know who posted

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it and said time to be great eighty five and

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gave a salute Brett, you know, because you do not. Okay, well,

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this would be fun. He posted that on this obviously,

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he posted on his story. So if you go to

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Instagram you are a Walker Lions, you can find that

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but one BYU sign any quarterback the brother rider a

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Lions posted that and said time to be great eight

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five and gave the salute emoji as John Cena would

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and shout out to the WWE fans, the greatest of

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all time, and that saluted to and gave that emoji. Look,

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you have to think that this was bound to happen,

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that this was gonna come. No one should be surprised

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by this. No one should be shocked, right, and I'm

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not you know, got rumblings that this could possibly happen.

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And look, how many times have we seen brothers play

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at BYU and it's gone, well, you know, Gunner Romney obviously,

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Baylor Romney, Pooka Nakua Samson, Nakua Brett. No one should

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be shocked by this at all.

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Speaker 4: No, they they shouldn't be at all. And then you

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also factor in I'm not sure. Look, somebody has to

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bring the social media pop culture knowledge to the show,

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and it has to be me. But for those who

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don't know, he is currently dating Dancing with the Stars. Yes,

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row Riley Arnold, who is from and lives in the

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Speaker 3: This is Troe.

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Speaker 4: You got a couple of things in the mix that say, hey,

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Walker Lions is coming to the state of Utah and

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coming to Byu.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's a lot of connections here. And you

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would have to think that Walker with his brother, because

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I think Walker is gonna have one more eligibile. You

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depending if he were to play or not, that Walker

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will want to play with his brother. You would have

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to think that that would be a possibility. Look, this

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shouldn't be a shocker at all. And quite frankly, when

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you look at the Bau tight End room when you

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go and you break it down as Ben and Gurney

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and you did yesterday so greatly, I do think that

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Byu is in need of of having a flex tight end,

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of having a guy that can really go catch the ball.

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I'm not saying key and he can't not saying normal.

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Yaki can't not saying that ty getch. You who's gonna

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come in can't do that. But this is a guy

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that's proven himself. He's proven to already being able to

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produce at the highest level, big ten tight end, and

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you got to bring him home. You got to bring

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him home. And the words have been kurded. I really

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can't sing, so sorry if it just burns your ears

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right there. But the point is BYU needs needs a

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tight end like this. Look you had it with Carson Ryan.

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But the days of where Isaac Greek was dominating people

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00:22:05,759 --> 00:22:07,359
one on one and in the end zone of being

474
00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,359
a red zone threat, right, Carson was great in both.

475
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,200
I think because he was so skilled in the blocking

476
00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:15,440
game and LJ was running the ball so fait at

477
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,880
such a high level, you didn't really need to throw

478
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,319
it to Carson as much, right. I think that's the

479
00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:23,880
biggest thing that you cut back on, maybe having Carson

480
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,039
catch as many passes, because remember he caught a pass

481
00:22:26,279 --> 00:22:27,759
in the East Carolina game, and I think he won

482
00:22:27,799 --> 00:22:30,440
six or seven games before catching another touchdown pass. I'm

483
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,640
not saying that Carson is not talented esc but he's

484
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,160
such a phenomenal blocker along with Key and Need. The

485
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:36,960
skill set is different. But when you bring in a

486
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,160
guy like Walker that can press the defense, I get

487
00:22:40,279 --> 00:22:43,440
vibes of Brady. You remember this of Isaac Grex's going

488
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,480
across the middle of the field, Keaton Slovan is dropping

489
00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:48,640
a dime and Isaac going, you know, forty or fifty

490
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,039
yards downfield and people trying to track him. That's what

491
00:22:51,079 --> 00:22:53,960
I imagine if if Walker were to commit to BYU and

492
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,839
coming to this program, that he would get it with

493
00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,960
Bear in a rod system. I just this is an

494
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:00,880
NFL tied end. This a guy that can play at

495
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,160
the next level, and I think he's looking for a

496
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,400
place where he can be showcased like that. He's looking

497
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,680
where they air the ball, out, where they run the ball,

498
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:10,240
where they go they go phenomenal play action, and I

499
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,920
think right now with the outside, I think BYU's trending

500
00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,920
towards that they just played in the Big twelve title game.

501
00:23:15,279 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 5: LJ.

502
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,640
Speaker 1: Martin was the offensive player of the Year, Brett I

503
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,759
said Brett bear Bachmeier was the Freshman of the Year.

504
00:23:20,839 --> 00:23:24,079
So all of that encompass into one is probably attractive

505
00:23:24,319 --> 00:23:26,720
for a guy that had a BYU offer that has

506
00:23:26,799 --> 00:23:30,480
ties to UTAH LDS, return missionary, right served eighteenth month

507
00:23:30,559 --> 00:23:34,079
mission brothers gonna come here. This just all seems like

508
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,359
the dominoes will be effect Brett. I would be shocked

509
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,720
if BYU weren't able to get him, you know, committed

510
00:23:39,759 --> 00:23:41,079
to the school and sign and if he did not

511
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:41,799
come to BYU.

512
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you definitely need him because it's been a

513
00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:49,119
while since you felt like you were truly too deep

514
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,079
at the tight end position. There was a year there

515
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,240
where Dallen Holker and Isaac Rex were kind of on

516
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:58,319
the same page and that was great. But you're coming

517
00:23:58,319 --> 00:24:02,640
into another year, I mean what like last year and

518
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,920
frankly the year before, like you're relying on Keanu Hill

519
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:08,319
to be your top tight end. So you were missing

520
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240
somebody at that position from that time period, and so

521
00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:14,119
you really do need a guy. And look, there's a

522
00:24:14,279 --> 00:24:18,119
number of tight ends coming in, some who are gonna

523
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,839
go on missions, some who are not so tight end

524
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,160
is honestly not the position that I'm most concerned about. However,

525
00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:26,799
it never hurts when you have a guy who's a

526
00:24:26,839 --> 00:24:31,519
former four star coming into your program he had last season,

527
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,799
I guess this season twenty catches, two hundred and twenty

528
00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,440
three yards and two touchdowns.

529
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 3: And if you think that's not a lot.

530
00:24:38,759 --> 00:24:43,039
Speaker 4: If you don't think that that's really good enough to

531
00:24:43,079 --> 00:24:45,839
come to BYU and help produce, I would ay, go

532
00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:47,720
tell you to look at what Carson Ryan was doing

533
00:24:47,759 --> 00:24:50,039
before he got to BYU, because I think if you

534
00:24:50,079 --> 00:24:51,799
look at that and then you look at his five

535
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:54,960
hundred yards of offense this year, then you would say, okay,

536
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:56,039
maybe and turn it around.

537
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: The other thing.

538
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,319
Speaker 4: I would say, if you don't really think that Walker

539
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:01,759
Lions has done enough at USC to prove anything to you,

540
00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,559
I would also go back to you say, outside of

541
00:25:05,599 --> 00:25:08,039
Isaac Rex, go look at tight ends at BYU the

542
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,480
last five years. Outside of Isaac Rex, that's frankly been

543
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,359
it and Dallen Holker a little bit for one year.

544
00:25:14,759 --> 00:25:19,480
So given what Carson Ryan did and in this offense,

545
00:25:19,519 --> 00:25:22,319
and frankly what Aaron Roddick was able to do with

546
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:25,039
him in this past game, then you look at the

547
00:25:25,079 --> 00:25:27,519
fact that Walker Lions comes in with all the potential,

548
00:25:27,559 --> 00:25:29,680
all the talent in the world because he is a

549
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,480
former four star and you look at what he did

550
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,519
this year with USC.

551
00:25:34,039 --> 00:25:35,839
Speaker 3: He brings in a lot.

552
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:39,559
Speaker 4: That you have to like and frankly like, again, you

553
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,279
need to be able to go too deep in that

554
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:43,119
tight end position.

555
00:25:43,559 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 3: Again, we believe Keanid is capable.

556
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 4: We believe there's a couple guys on this roster that

557
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,279
are capable, and there's I believe Ryder Swanson's coming back

558
00:25:52,319 --> 00:25:55,720
from a mission. But it doesn't ever hurt to have depth,

559
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,240
especially at that position because frankly, for the last five

560
00:25:59,319 --> 00:26:03,640
years you've been hoping for Isaac Rex to save you,

561
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,799
frankly at the tight end position, and we know you're

562
00:26:06,839 --> 00:26:09,960
not going to be getting Carson Ryan back. So this

563
00:26:10,039 --> 00:26:13,240
is I think a big get. It also, Ron, on

564
00:26:13,319 --> 00:26:17,119
top of all of that, makes me feel really good

565
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,160
about whatever the future is with Ryder Lions at BYU,

566
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,759
because I've heard some speculation of people saying, well, what's

567
00:26:24,799 --> 00:26:26,720
it going to look like if Ryder gets back from

568
00:26:26,759 --> 00:26:30,000
his mission and he wants to start as a Drew freshman,

569
00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:33,920
but bear Bachmeyer maybe still be killing it at BYU,

570
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,960
So then Ryder would have to wait a year.

571
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,160
Speaker 3: Like the fact that Walker.

572
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 4: Is willing to come to BYU, says that they feel

573
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,599
like their family is being treated well and that if

574
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,279
they believe in BYU enough for him to come here

575
00:26:47,559 --> 00:26:51,200
and potentially maybe play with his brother, who knows, But

576
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,200
either way, I think he brings in a massive skill set,

577
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,480
a ton of potential and adds a lot of depth

578
00:26:58,559 --> 00:26:59,880
to this BYU tight end room.

579
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, you definitely need depth with I don't want to

580
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:08,200
say unproven guys, but guys that probably players excuse me,

581
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:12,759
players that having, like you said, maybe proven themselves, you know,

582
00:27:12,839 --> 00:27:14,599
to that to that degree, this is a guy that

583
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,839
has proven it. You know you mentioned some of the numbers,

584
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,480
the six four, two hundred and forty five pound, you know,

585
00:27:19,559 --> 00:27:23,599
kid out of Folsom, California, brother older brother of writer Lions.

586
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,480
I think this is a guy that could change your

587
00:27:26,519 --> 00:27:28,599
offense around. Like he's gonna be on the scouting report.

588
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,279
You always talk about, you know basketball, right, who's on

589
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:35,640
the scouting report? Aj Richie Rod pick your poison. Look

590
00:27:36,599 --> 00:27:39,720
with who's coming in with Parker coming back next year,

591
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:43,680
You're they're probably gonna go get a wide receiver two right, Like?

592
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:45,799
And I bring this up because it's me watching Twitter.

593
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,559
Darius Lassiter keeps saying Tray Spivey. You need to see

594
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,759
you in the BYU uniform. You have to think, do

595
00:27:50,839 --> 00:27:52,400
they get me? I don't know if Tray Spivey's in

596
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:53,720
the porter haven't looked that hard, but you have to

597
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,599
think do they get that? Can they bringing maybe a

598
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,599
Jace Brown? I don't know, do they go get another

599
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,920
high level profile receiver? So you thinking bringing in one

600
00:28:00,039 --> 00:28:02,079
at the minimum, if not too that you bring in

601
00:28:02,079 --> 00:28:05,799
one of the POOLA twins that can play BYU. With that,

602
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,319
it's going to attract attention, high level talent that you

603
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,599
bring a walker to block that just helps your offense.

604
00:28:10,599 --> 00:28:12,680
So I'm with you Bretton. It looks like he's gonna

605
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,920
have I think in you know, two more years, two

606
00:28:15,039 --> 00:28:17,279
or three more years of eligibility. You know, played for

607
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,400
the Trojans in twenty twenty four and in twenty twenty five.

608
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,759
Remember people, he was a part of the twenty twenty

609
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:25,839
three class and he was the ninth tight end in

610
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,279
his class, ninth tight in his class, twelfth prospect in California,

611
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:30,880
the former four star of the Charity Mission. And the

612
00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,119
offer sheet is probaly that fic. I love it. It's sexy.

613
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,839
Look at this USC BYU, Utah, Stanford, Georgia, Alabama, Arizona,

614
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,640
Arizona State, Colorado, Florida State, g Tech w BYU plays

615
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,680
next Saturday in the Pop Tarts Both Lee Louisville, Miami,

616
00:28:48,039 --> 00:28:52,400
Michigan State, Oklahoma, Old Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, San Jose State, Texas, Washington,

617
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,359
Washington State. That's a lot of schools. How many of

618
00:28:54,359 --> 00:28:56,680
those schools are in the in the College Football Playoffs

619
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,759
were close to being in the College foot All Playoffs.

620
00:28:58,759 --> 00:29:01,200
Fro now went tens, b YU had a season, Utah,

621
00:29:01,319 --> 00:29:03,880
Georgia's in Alabama's in Arizona had a good season on

622
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,200
the Brent Brennan. Arizona State had a good season. Georgia

623
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,799
Tech is playing BYU, they had a good season. Miami's

624
00:29:09,799 --> 00:29:13,359
in the College Football Playoffs, Oklahoma's in oh missus in Oregons.

625
00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,680
So the offer ship they had, Texas is not getting in,

626
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,880
but they're playing Michigan. I believe it's in the cheese

627
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,920
and bowls. You have all of that, and in Washington

628
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,119
had to get So all of these schools that he

629
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400
got offered by are playing great. He could go to

630
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,640
any one of them, but I think he's gonna end

631
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,640
up in a BYU uniform. I really do. I just

632
00:29:30,759 --> 00:29:32,559
believe that that's what it's going to be, and that

633
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:37,440
just helps you in delivering the opportunity to win a

634
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,440
big twelve tit on. Here's why. When you look at

635
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,240
what Texas Tech was able to do offensively, Brett, they

636
00:29:43,279 --> 00:29:45,079
had guys that were in the receiver position that can

637
00:29:45,119 --> 00:29:47,680
match up outside, that were technically tight ends. And I

638
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,799
think Walker is the same. Walker can line up in

639
00:29:49,839 --> 00:29:52,319
the slot, he can line up outside, probably be mainly

640
00:29:52,319 --> 00:29:55,000
in the slot, but this is a guy that really

641
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:57,440
can change your offense. And the last time, like you

642
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,880
said that you saw by you have a the Aby

643
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,519
took a take and I know I'm jumping ship. Ab

644
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:05,559
took a take that he thought that Carson Ryan would

645
00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,880
be the second leading receiver on this team. Wasn't a

646
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,640
bad take. I agree with that. I said that that

647
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:13,200
possibly could be. Now granted we didn't think Chase is

648
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,519
gonna get hurt, you know. And then Parker ended up,

649
00:30:15,559 --> 00:30:17,759
you know, taking over doing what he did best, showing

650
00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:20,160
himself why he could be wide receiver number one. But

651
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,279
with everything going on with Parker playing in the slot,

652
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,279
night gonna have a couple of outside guys and now

653
00:30:24,279 --> 00:30:27,400
you're at Walker. I think that case could be made

654
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,039
that your second leading receiver, if not third, on the

655
00:30:30,079 --> 00:30:32,559
team next year could be Walker Lions. With the way

656
00:30:32,599 --> 00:30:34,759
that a Rod throws a ball, with all the misdirection,

657
00:30:35,039 --> 00:30:37,519
with how prolific this offense is, Bear's gonna be better.

658
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,519
Bear's gonna be better. You know what the best part

659
00:30:39,559 --> 00:30:42,200
is if he makes his decision, Brett sooner before the

660
00:30:42,279 --> 00:30:44,440
year's over, where he's gonna commit, and you get him

661
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,319
on campus next semester. That guess what that means. He's

662
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,039
gonna be there for springball. You know what? That also

663
00:30:49,079 --> 00:30:52,920
means a whole offseason together, Bear having another having a

664
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,480
full offseason with a Rod. I know a lot of

665
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:57,920
people are hating Brett. He didn't push the ball enough.

666
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,759
You could have done this year. Maybe he could have. Right,

667
00:30:59,759 --> 00:31:01,319
Maybe we can go back and look at all the

668
00:31:01,359 --> 00:31:03,400
tape and break down a pass place and there could

669
00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,039
be accountability with that. But you know where there's where

670
00:31:06,039 --> 00:31:08,880
there's gonna be more accountability if you give Bear more weapons,

671
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:10,680
if you do like we need to argue like and

672
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,039
this is not a shot at Chase, but how many

673
00:31:13,079 --> 00:31:16,400
times could Chase maybe not catch balls, and you know

674
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:21,279
can tough to. He struggled at catching passes in contested coverage,

675
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:23,359
really difficult. Darius Lasser could do it, but you didn't

676
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,319
get him back. But now you add a guy like Walker,

677
00:31:25,359 --> 00:31:28,079
this just spreads the field more. It gives more spacing.

678
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,839
We'll see if he gets done. But to me, Bred,

679
00:31:30,839 --> 00:31:32,680
if you pick up this guy, a guy that has

680
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,160
a seventy seven inch wingspan, thirty three inch arms. Look

681
00:31:36,359 --> 00:31:38,680
and it's probably bigger now, probably because he's come back

682
00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:42,200
from the mission. But this kid is a phenomenal athlete.

683
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,039
Go look at the tape. Go look at it from

684
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:45,519
when he was in high school, to go look at

685
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:48,359
it in college. Now you bring this kid in, I

686
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,880
think you can argue that he might be the red

687
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,799
zone target when BYU gets into the red zone because

688
00:31:53,799 --> 00:31:56,720
of his route running ability, his blocking ability, his pass

689
00:31:56,799 --> 00:32:00,200
catching ability. I think this is a musket for BYU

690
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:01,440
in the next couple of weeks.

691
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,319
Speaker 4: Well, the reality of the situation ron is BYU is

692
00:32:05,319 --> 00:32:08,039
about to lose three of their top four pass catchers

693
00:32:08,039 --> 00:32:08,720
from this last year.

694
00:32:08,759 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 3: Good point Chase Roberts, Carson, Ryan L. J.

695
00:32:12,119 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 4: Martin and the guy after that, And this is not

696
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,960
what be all your fans want to hear. But the

697
00:32:18,039 --> 00:32:21,359
guy who's fifth on this list, Ron missed most of

698
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,680
the season due to injury in Jojo Phillips. Yeah, so

699
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,079
you almost have no returning production in terms of pass

700
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:36,599
catchers from this season going into next season. And really

701
00:32:36,759 --> 00:32:40,240
the only way you can fix that, or even have

702
00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:42,960
any hope of fixing it, is we got to bring

703
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:47,599
in as many pass catchers as possible and find what

704
00:32:47,759 --> 00:32:50,400
sticks and find what works. Again, we've talked about some

705
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,359
of the tight ends who are coming in. We know

706
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,359
that you have guys like Terrence Sarrion and Legend Glaskar

707
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,880
and obviously the Pulas.

708
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,759
Speaker 3: Then you bring in walk ger Lions.

709
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:06,559
Speaker 4: Potentially you need as many guys as possible to frankly

710
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,200
be able to fill up the production from what you

711
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:12,960
are going to be losing this year. Walker Lions, we

712
00:33:13,119 --> 00:33:15,559
think could be a big part of it if he

713
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:18,599
gets in. You also make a great point, I think

714
00:33:18,759 --> 00:33:22,920
that we're kind of been under selling. Bear's never had

715
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:25,599
a full off season at bou never had a full

716
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,519
off season in college. He's never had a full off

717
00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,319
season with Aaron Roderg and with his offense and with

718
00:33:31,359 --> 00:33:34,400
his playbook and whatever they want to do. So, yeah,

719
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,079
do you feel like at times they didn't push the

720
00:33:37,079 --> 00:33:39,599
ball downfield as well as they should have? Yes, And

721
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:41,839
the fact that LG. Martin, your running back, is your

722
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,960
fourth leading receiver probably.

723
00:33:43,599 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: Would tell you that.

724
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:48,839
Speaker 4: However, you look at the recruiting class coming in, we

725
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,000
haven't even discussed you bring up guys like Trace fivey.

726
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,839
Speaker 3: We don't know what the transfer portal class coming in

727
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,400
is going to be.

728
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,039
Speaker 4: Like, true, I did feel like, truly if BYU was

729
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,319
more dangerous through the air, I think they had a

730
00:34:03,359 --> 00:34:05,880
way better shot at beating Texas Tech. That to me,

731
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,599
I felt like was BYU's weakness a lot this season

732
00:34:10,199 --> 00:34:12,360
was team said we're.

733
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: Gonna stop you from running the football.

734
00:34:13,840 --> 00:34:15,679
Speaker 4: We'll let you pass because we don't think you can

735
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,719
do it in a dynamic fashion. And I think that's

736
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:22,760
what cost them some games and frankly, unfortunately, I think

737
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,480
cost them some eye test Olympic medals as far as

738
00:34:26,519 --> 00:34:30,679
the Collegewall Playoff Committee is concerned, So what you need

739
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,599
is to bring in a plethora, a number and a

740
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,559
large amount of pass catchers who can frankly return production

741
00:34:39,679 --> 00:34:42,239
that you were going to be losing this season, and

742
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,039
hopefully Walker Lions is a big.

743
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 3: Part of that.

744
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,119
Speaker 1: And the reason to your point in bringing it up.

745
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:49,960
All those guys that Bred mentioned, Legend, Glasker, Terrence Sound,

746
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,400
all those guys that will I believe play in and

747
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,480
can have a good Caribou, they got to go prove

748
00:34:54,519 --> 00:34:56,679
it in practice. They're not gonna come in and just

749
00:34:56,679 --> 00:35:00,360
get an opportunity. Fessi Sataki, who wasn't a to catch

750
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,519
up with today at practice due to my rast. Anyway,

751
00:35:03,559 --> 00:35:05,960
the point is Festie has talked about guys that are proven,

752
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,840
so Parker is going to be one of those guys.

753
00:35:08,079 --> 00:35:09,800
He looks at him and a Rod. They look at

754
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
guys that are proven. So Walker, if he were to

755
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,320
commit to Bou and come is proven, He's going to

756
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,719
be a guy that can catch the ball. Where did

757
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,639
ba you get most vulnerable? Where they couldn't beat Texas

758
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,599
Tech the middle of the field. Who's a guy that

759
00:35:21,639 --> 00:35:23,239
can work in the middle of the field. This dude,

760
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,119
I'm telling you, just check the tape, like this guy

761
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:26,440
can work in the middle of the field, in the slot.

762
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,760
He can also play outside. Beat you up, get the slant.

763
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,480
Look you just mentioned it. You're losing three of your

764
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,599
top pass catchers. Potentially next season you're gonna lose Chase

765
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,960
out of eligibility, and then the other two you're you know,

766
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,719
you have no idea what's gonna happen. You have no

767
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:42,719
idea what could could Jojo be? Backe? Is he gonna

768
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,119
hit the portal? Right? Talk to Klane today. They've had

769
00:35:45,159 --> 00:35:48,440
those discussion, those conversations. So within the next couple of week, Bret,

770
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,559
Week's Brett, we're gonna know who is leaving. And that's

771
00:35:51,559 --> 00:35:54,239
not even that springball guys could leave. Guys left last year,

772
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:57,239
remember you lost killing Marion Lake. Excuse me, you also

773
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,840
lost Harrison Taggart. So it's posible that you could lose

774
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,480
a number of guys.

775
00:36:01,519 --> 00:36:01,599
Speaker 4: Now.

776
00:36:01,639 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: I know that the rules the change of when guys

777
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,519
can go into the portal on the cycle, but you

778
00:36:05,599 --> 00:36:07,800
might lose a number of those guys now with the

779
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,000
one transfer portal cycles, so they need as many as possible,

780
00:36:11,039 --> 00:36:13,360
and you need to bring in a couple as well.

781
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,119
You got some coming in in this twenty twenty five class,

782
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,599
excuse me, twenty twenty six casts, which I think is

783
00:36:18,639 --> 00:36:20,760
great and Legend Glaster and Terrence Sarah on one of

784
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:22,920
the Pula twins, but also thinking getting a couple of

785
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,519
guys in the portal. You probably need three in the

786
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:27,280
portal as well, because Bear needs as many options as possible.

787
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:29,280
And again, the full offseason will help. If all of

788
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,800
those guys get here by spring ball, or even if

789
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,119
they got here in April, whatever it is, that would

790
00:36:34,119 --> 00:36:38,400
help so much because Bear having a full offseason, being

791
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,280
able to look at the tape now being a sophomore,

792
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,840
that would help a lot. He's going to improve guys,

793
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,519
but he needs weapons to throw to. And I think

794
00:36:44,559 --> 00:36:47,079
this year with Jojo going out, I think when it

795
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:49,159
was tough for Chase to be coverage and really it

796
00:36:49,199 --> 00:36:51,199
was just Parker and Carson had to stay in the

797
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,880
blocking game at times because he was so dynamic. It

798
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,000
made it tough because it wasn't that the offense wasn't good.

799
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,280
It was a lack of number of you know, pass

800
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,920
catchers that you half to Brett's points. So we will

801
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,599
see what happens, but I would be surprised to be shocked.

802
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,760
I think you could see number eighty five in blue guys,

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815
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816
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We been is breaking down Coop.

817
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Speaker 2: He's amount of film on his beloved Cougar football team.

818
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He's talking Cougar Sports right here on.

819
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,360
Speaker 1: The three Man. We were here holding down a little

820
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,519
bit for Big Crittles. Brett always bringing the hammer by

821
00:38:11,559 --> 00:38:14,719
my side, Brett the digital content creators here at ESP

822
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823
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producer of the program. Coming back with Rocking Around the

824
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:23,280
Christmas Tree, Little Country Vibe as well, because those that

825
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,719
celebrate Christmas in Texas and Georgia a little bit different. Brett,

826
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,639
I think you could speak on to that, not too much,

827
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,519
but I brought Toby Keith isar is our artist of

828
00:38:31,559 --> 00:38:34,239
the day. But hey, I hope arrest in peace. I

829
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,360
felt like that was that, you know, it's still crazy

830
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,559
to think about all the great people that have left

831
00:38:38,559 --> 00:38:40,920
this world. So I wanted to share that this is

832
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:44,119
another Christmas I remember because I'm I normally in charge

833
00:38:44,119 --> 00:38:46,320
of the reason why I prayed played that is my

834
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,079
dad was the one that put the star on the tree.

835
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:49,840
But he's not here, so that's been delegated to me.

836
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:52,840
I do have my own family now, but it's it's

837
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,719
always weird doing that. So I always think of my

838
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,280
dad during Christmas times. And look, I love the gift giving.

839
00:38:57,360 --> 00:38:59,119
I love the time that we get to eat, load

840
00:38:59,199 --> 00:39:01,039
up on food, the time I'm a off to spelling family.

841
00:39:01,039 --> 00:39:03,599
All of it's wonderful. But you know, when I think

842
00:39:03,639 --> 00:39:05,599
of Christmas and my dad not being able to put

843
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,440
the star and you can speak to this two bread,

844
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,320
I just also think of the spirit of Jesus Christ,

845
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,639
you know, him being born and if it wasn't for that,

846
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,079
you know, and having the Gospel, wouldn't have the opportunity

847
00:39:15,079 --> 00:39:18,400
to see our families again, my dad, your dad. So

848
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,679
I'm very always blessed of what the true meaning of

849
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,280
Christmas still is. The gifts they do matter, Santa Claus,

850
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,199
the spirit all that does. But I also think what

851
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,039
matters is not forgetting our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ,

852
00:39:28,159 --> 00:39:30,320
or however you worship in the world and worship him.

853
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the thing for me when it comes

854
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:39,159
to Christmas is just I had so many great Christmases

855
00:39:39,199 --> 00:39:42,159
growing up. Christmas was just perfect to me my whole life.

856
00:39:42,199 --> 00:39:46,480
Like I mean, even I can remember when we you know,

857
00:39:46,599 --> 00:39:49,719
we had poor Christmases because both my parents were didn't

858
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:54,639
have a job, and Christmas was always great. But since

859
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:58,079
losing a family member, the thing that I remember more

860
00:39:58,119 --> 00:40:00,559
and more and I'm kind of grateful for this is

861
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,599
and if you're listening, like please just remember this, Christmas

862
00:40:03,639 --> 00:40:05,079
is not Christmas for everybody.

863
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 3: The way that you enjoy.

864
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 4: Christmas is not how everybody else feels about Christmas. And

865
00:40:10,039 --> 00:40:12,719
I'm not saying that it's like a you should feel

866
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,519
shamed and you should enjoy it. That type of way,

867
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,599
I'm just saying that it's like a reminder to just

868
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,119
go out of your way to do things for people

869
00:40:21,159 --> 00:40:26,519
this Christmas, because I mean, we get the opportunity. You're

870
00:40:26,519 --> 00:40:28,639
gonna spend it with your wife and daughter, and I

871
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,119
spend it with my beautiful wife. But there's a lot

872
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,639
of people who Christmas is a lonely and sad time

873
00:40:33,679 --> 00:40:36,760
for them, and so I think it's just important that

874
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,760
we remember, like, it's so great to have so much

875
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,920
fun with your family on Christmas. But honestly, ron my

876
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:47,400
favorite memory of my Christmas my whole life was I

877
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,719
was in high school and I can't remember why we

878
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,440
decided to do this, but we bought a bunch of

879
00:40:54,519 --> 00:40:57,440
gifts for this family and we thought they weren't going

880
00:40:57,519 --> 00:41:00,599
to be home. Well lo and behold, show up and

881
00:41:01,039 --> 00:41:02,559
they were home. And I think it was either the

882
00:41:02,639 --> 00:41:04,719
day before Christmas or two days before. So we're like,

883
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:07,159
this is the only time we can do it. They

884
00:41:07,199 --> 00:41:09,679
were all kind of congregated in the front of the house,

885
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,320
and sometimes these houses out in the middle of nowhere

886
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,079
in Pennsylvania, like you have a back door that's kind

887
00:41:16,079 --> 00:41:19,199
of your front door, and vice versa, and straight up

888
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,320
like we broke into this family's house in order to

889
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,559
drop off all of the gifts, and as we were

890
00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:28,719
putting them down, somebody heard us and started walking towards

891
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,440
the back and we just started booking it, and we

892
00:41:31,480 --> 00:41:34,239
had parked on the backside of the trees of their house,

893
00:41:34,519 --> 00:41:39,559
and we sprinted back to our car. And so to me, like,

894
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,000
that's my favorite memory of Christmas. And it's taken getting

895
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,480
older and some life experience for me to remember that.

896
00:41:45,559 --> 00:41:48,360
But I just say that as kind of a psa

897
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:52,519
to everybody. Not everybody enjoys Christmas, unfortunately, the same way

898
00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:55,039
that some of us are so blessed to so in

899
00:41:55,679 --> 00:41:58,079
the same way, in the same fashion and the same

900
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,400
energy that we enjoy Christmas with those we love.

901
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:04,199
Speaker 3: Just see what you can do to just.

902
00:42:04,199 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: Send a text, send a phone call, buy lunch, whatever

903
00:42:07,039 --> 00:42:09,880
it is that you can do to brighten somebody else's Christmas,

904
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,280
because Christmas isn't always Christmas for everybody.

905
00:42:12,519 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: I love that you brought that up, you know, because

906
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,360
it really isn't. A lot of people might think this

907
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,599
is crazy, but I love talking about my you know,

908
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,559
Southern Baptist grandmother, right because my roots come from Clinton Mississippi,

909
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,440
also where I had the privilege to serve my mission.

910
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:25,920
So shout out to the Lord on knowing what to

911
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:29,400
send me. But check this out. My grandmother doesn't celebrate

912
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,079
Christmas and gift giving. She actually doesn't, so I had either.

913
00:42:32,159 --> 00:42:35,119
It was extreme in my house. It was either gifts,

914
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:37,840
movies with family and all of that when my mom

915
00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,679
and dad were wrong because both of My mom was

916
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,199
a nurse, so she had to work every other year

917
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,360
my parents.

918
00:42:42,519 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 3: I remember plenty of Christmases.

919
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 4: My mom is a nurse as well, and I remember

920
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,960
being so sad as a kid man that I didn't.

921
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: Have my mom for Christmas.

922
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,519
Speaker 4: But now that i'm older, man, I'm like, you know what,

923
00:42:53,639 --> 00:42:55,199
there's some kids who got to have my.

924
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:56,679
Speaker 3: Mom with them in the hospital.

925
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: For absolutely, it sucks that they were there, but I'm

926
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:00,559
willing to give my mom for that.

927
00:43:00,639 --> 00:43:02,679
Speaker 1: Absolutely, And my mom worked in the children's units, So

928
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,239
it was a blessing for moments back in the day

929
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,480
to be it I uplift someone other than myself, maybe

930
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,679
the selfish kid I was being of, Hey, where's my

931
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:11,719
presence from saying and being with you? But that's how

932
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,800
it was. But in the other extremes of my grandma

933
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,360
who doesn't get presents because she believes in celebrating the

934
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,480
birth of Jesus Christ. So the Nativity, read stories of

935
00:43:18,559 --> 00:43:20,960
the Bible. Shout out to her. So I've been able

936
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,480
to take both, being on both sides the like, well,

937
00:43:23,519 --> 00:43:25,639
this is too many presents, too much of it all,

938
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,800
this is too much Jesus. And I know people could

939
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,880
say you can never have too much Jesus, Yes you can.

940
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:32,360
I've seen the first dand from my grandmother and being

941
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,880
able to mix those together because there does need to

942
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,280
be a balance. I think of both. But yeah, shout

943
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:40,559
out to the Christmas spirit and I Webred said, remember

944
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,199
not everybody's that way, and remember stop by. This is

945
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,719
where ministrying, I think, comes into play, whether you're a

946
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,400
member of the church or not. This is where uplifting

947
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,920
someone gift giving, dropping off cookies like and just shout

948
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,159
out to my ward the creek side or where I live,

949
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:56,280
so many people are dropped off goodies, said Merry Christmas.

950
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,000
What can I do for your family? Like people are

951
00:43:58,039 --> 00:44:00,239
always the Lord is always mindful of you. I just

952
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,360
want to say that whether you believe it or not,

953
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,920
whether you know it, he really is mindful. He knows

954
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,639
exactly where you're at all times, all things, all places,

955
00:44:08,119 --> 00:44:10,159
and he's looking out for everybody this holiday spirit. So

956
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I just want to say that. But anyway, all right,

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dot com. All right, here is my poll of the day,

969
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,199
brat and I'll have you put this out. It's in

970
00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:44,559
a rundown for you. But what's your confidence level the

971
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:49,760
byu Lands four Star Portal tight End Transfer Walker Lions.

972
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,639
Very confident, somewhat confident, not very confident, or you have

973
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,800
no confidence at all. I think this is a good

974
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:58,840
thing to bring up. And I know that they still

975
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,559
have one game, but we're getting towards the offseason or

976
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,519
getting towards recruiting portal talk. I think this is the

977
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:06,559
time and I want to throw this question out there

978
00:45:06,599 --> 00:45:08,679
right now because to me, I think this is the

979
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,280
first guy on the list that you gotta get too

980
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,960
many ties his brothers coming to play here, You've had

981
00:45:14,039 --> 00:45:16,519
multiple multitude of other brothers come and play and make

982
00:45:16,559 --> 00:45:20,079
your work. There's a history of brothers succeeding at BYU.

983
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,559
You know, still haven't seen that Bear Bachmeyer a Tiger

984
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:26,119
Bachmeyer connection waiting for it could happen in the pop

985
00:45:26,159 --> 00:45:29,079
Tars Bowl bull Look, all of that is on the table.

986
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:31,840
So that's my poll day. What's your confidence level the

987
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,760
BYU lens four star portal transfer tight end Walker lines. Look,

988
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,639
I might be overly confident, and this is where sometimes

989
00:45:38,639 --> 00:45:40,480
it bites me the button. I've had some bad takes,

990
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,719
but Brett, I'm very confident. I'm in that seventy five

991
00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:45,800
to one hundred percent range. I might go maybe ninety

992
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:47,960
ninety percent or above. I'd have to say it, but

993
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,280
I'm very confident that BYU lends this. I know some

994
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,000
people could maybe say somewhere confident because an il is

995
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,639
still a factor of things could not go well. But

996
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,079
with with Writer committing and signing to BYU not grant

997
00:45:59,159 --> 00:46:00,760
he's gonna go on a mission, will have to re

998
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,719
sign his NLI as national let of intent. But this

999
00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,519
tells me a lot. If he even were to come

1000
00:46:06,559 --> 00:46:09,159
to BYU, this gives me more confidence that Ryder will

1001
00:46:09,199 --> 00:46:11,119
come back. All of that. So I think this is

1002
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:13,159
a match made in heaven. It's a package duel. I

1003
00:46:13,199 --> 00:46:15,320
think getting Walker is a big step. I think Rider

1004
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,119
being a BYU sign is gonna help it come. And

1005
00:46:18,159 --> 00:46:19,880
I believe that he will be a BYU Cougar. I

1006
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,360
believe that eighty five will be wearing the Royal Army

1007
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,440
next year fighting for the Cougars. So I'm very confident.

1008
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:26,440
What say you, Brad Hammer.

1009
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm one hundred percent in on this. My wife

1010
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:33,159
has shown me enough. Riley Arnold content.

1011
00:46:33,039 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: I watched with starts to not ball here.

1012
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,639
Speaker 4: I mean, plus, you have his brother in it, you

1013
00:46:38,679 --> 00:46:42,320
have the fact that he is a member of the church,

1014
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:47,239
served the mission, probably wants to be here. And honestly,

1015
00:46:47,639 --> 00:46:49,280
I mean to me, the biggest question is like.

1016
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,840
Speaker 3: Why are you leaving USC? Because that's my point.

1017
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:53,880
Speaker 4: I'm not even taking a shout at BYU. But USC

1018
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:00,199
is a historic football program. Lincoln Riley like, so the

1019
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,440
fact that he's leaving USC, to me is honestly the

1020
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,880
bigger story than whether or not he's coming to b YU. However,

1021
00:47:06,320 --> 00:47:08,400
seeing now that he's hit the portal, I think he's

1022
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,400
coming to b YU. Something you said earlier, though, I

1023
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,320
do want to I want a caveat. You were talking

1024
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,840
about Trey Spivey and whether or not he's hit the portal.

1025
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,440
We don't know yet. Here's what we've learned so far. Ron,

1026
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:24,519
this is what we've learned. You no longer, You're no

1027
00:47:24,599 --> 00:47:26,360
longer safe saying nothing.

1028
00:47:26,599 --> 00:47:28,199
Speaker 3: You have to. We learned this last year.

1029
00:47:29,519 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 4: I say this that you are coming back back, so

1030
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,400
innocent until proven guilty. Yeah, the new world of college,

1031
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,760
what we live in is in the portal, in the

1032
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,960
portal until you say otherwise. So he someone may not

1033
00:47:43,039 --> 00:47:44,880
be in the portal, but I think it's safe to

1034
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,559
assume at this point that until they announced they're coming back, they're.

1035
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:49,039
Speaker 3: In the portal.

1036
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,440
Speaker 1: This is a good point. Look, I said this. I

1037
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,840
think you and I were doing a show in the offseason,

1038
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,440
and not even offseason. We're a Redmends farm with Dawson,

1039
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,639
Bigger and Brody and they both laughed when I said it.

1040
00:47:58,719 --> 00:48:02,639
Said guys, I said, well, Dawson and Brody, I said, look,

1041
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,880
I didn't think that players would have to announce hey,

1042
00:48:07,199 --> 00:48:09,840
excited for the next year, create a post. But now

1043
00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:12,920
you not saying anything means yeah, he's in the portal,

1044
00:48:13,199 --> 00:48:15,960
Yeah he's gone. And it's crazy, Brett, because you and

1045
00:48:16,039 --> 00:48:19,039
I are get information that we can't always say say.

1046
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:21,280
We have to, you know, be very careful of how

1047
00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:23,480
we do things. But it's always interesting to someone's he's

1048
00:48:23,519 --> 00:48:26,280
gone and I'm lying and they're not gone. But how

1049
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,800
it looks these days is when nothing gets said, that's

1050
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,039
exactly what happens. Oh he's not coming back. There's just

1051
00:48:31,079 --> 00:48:33,480
no way. And I agree with you. The question I'm

1052
00:48:33,519 --> 00:48:36,519
asking is why is he leaving USC? Lincoln Riley, a

1053
00:48:36,519 --> 00:48:40,400
proven coach, has several NFL quarterbacks. You know when he

1054
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,440
in his days going back to Oklahoma and a USC,

1055
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,039
Kayler Williams is playing for my Chicago Bears. You got

1056
00:48:45,119 --> 00:48:48,559
Kyler Murray, Jalen Hurts and then Spencer Ratler like He's

1057
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:52,159
had a multitude of quarterbacks playing good football right now

1058
00:48:52,159 --> 00:48:54,119
that are playing like Kyler won the Heisman was the

1059
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:56,559
number one pick. Baylor won the Heisman was the number

1060
00:48:56,559 --> 00:48:59,159
one pick. Jalen Hurts was drafted by the Eagles, Caleb

1061
00:48:59,199 --> 00:49:02,119
Williams was the highest number one overall pick, and Spencer

1062
00:49:02,199 --> 00:49:04,199
Raller you know, playing over there for the New Orleans Saints.

1063
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,679
So this is very interesting when you play with a

1064
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,119
coach that has proven to put guys in the league

1065
00:49:10,159 --> 00:49:12,239
in his offense. Call of Dair Raight, he had what

1066
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,039
is Zachariah Branch I think the transfer. So when you

1067
00:49:15,079 --> 00:49:17,119
look at the guys that has been in his offense,

1068
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,840
it's interesting to see, well, why is he leaving USC?

1069
00:49:20,199 --> 00:49:23,199
That's a good question. So look, if you know how

1070
00:49:23,199 --> 00:49:25,519
to operate, Brett, if the kid commits, you know, and

1071
00:49:25,559 --> 00:49:29,320
sign is not on campus, I am going to reach

1072
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,679
out and try to get him on. So we'll have

1073
00:49:30,679 --> 00:49:32,199
to wait and see. But if you committed to Bou,

1074
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,719
you best believe I'm going to try to get him

1075
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,960
on the show and give you that opportunity to ask

1076
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,800
that question of why are you leaving USC? And it

1077
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,920
might be as simple as you know, I felt like

1078
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,679
I could further my career BYU football if that be

1079
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:44,960
the case, if he were to select BYU, right, because

1080
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,880
if he selects another school, we're not having them on.

1081
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,360
That's just how it goes. But it could be because of

1082
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,840
all the positive momentum that athletics has right now. So

1083
00:49:53,199 --> 00:49:55,159
that's a very good point. But to your point, if

1084
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:57,639
you don't say anything, then that means you're gone. So

1085
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:00,719
the question is in the next couple of well, I

1086
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:02,400
guess in the next week or when the next couple

1087
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:05,360
of weeks. Yeah, when BYU is done with their season,

1088
00:50:05,639 --> 00:50:07,880
how many guys are gonna have to say hey here

1089
00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,280
to stay? The likes of Evan Johnson, the likes of

1090
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:12,840
Trey Alexander. How many guys are gonna get post now

1091
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:15,400
we know that you know what is it? The government's

1092
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,880
trying to stop this private equity deal. Utah was the

1093
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,480
first to go all in on it. But even without

1094
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,920
that equity deal, like this guy like Isaiah Glass gonna

1095
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,119
come back to BOU for his final season. Could he

1096
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:28,920
go to an SEC Big ten top level program and

1097
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,400
be featured. Jack Kelly's out of eligibility, so he'll be

1098
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,360
in the draft. Could LJ come back to be a

1099
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:36,000
could someone else bey LJ? Could LJ say my time

1100
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:38,360
is now he hint, wave my hand over my face.

1101
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,719
Could he say my time is now to go to

1102
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,840
the draft? You know, we don't know, but all of

1103
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,840
that will work out. But to your point, Brett, and

1104
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:46,480
to what I had to ask Dawson and Brody and

1105
00:50:46,519 --> 00:50:48,719
what caught my attention, you now have to say that

1106
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,719
you're coming back for your final year and you're ready

1107
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,719
to run it back. And especially when you have a

1108
00:50:52,760 --> 00:50:56,519
coaching change or something drastic happens, because everybody just thinks,

1109
00:50:56,519 --> 00:50:59,000
oh the sky is falling. This player is not coming back.

1110
00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,119
They're going into the portal. Because in this day in

1111
00:51:01,159 --> 00:51:04,440
college sports, if you don't say anything, you're guilty.

1112
00:51:06,199 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 3: You have to make a declaration one way or the other.

1113
00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 4: Innocent until proven guilty in the portal until declared otherwise.

1114
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:19,519
Speaker 3: Honestly, the battle to otherwise the battle that.

1115
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:22,760
Speaker 4: Scares me right now, and I've seen some pretty prominent

1116
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,480
people say it's about to get crazy.

1117
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 3: The one that worries me is this.

1118
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:30,639
Speaker 4: Recruiting battle and this transfer portal battle between BYU and Utah.

1119
00:51:30,679 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 3: And look, it's crazy.

1120
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:36,119
Speaker 4: Every year but it's even crazier this year because it

1121
00:51:36,159 --> 00:51:38,320
feels like it's a little bit of an arms race.

1122
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:39,039
Speaker 3: BYU.

1123
00:51:39,199 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 4: Was like, hey, Crumble's getting involved and all these other donors,

1124
00:51:42,519 --> 00:51:46,039
Neutra costs, all those guys, they're pumping money into the

1125
00:51:46,159 --> 00:51:49,880
Nile budget, was what we heard from Sean Walker and others.

1126
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:53,800
And then we get the deal a couple days later

1127
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,119
that Utah is doing private equity deal, getting five hundred

1128
00:51:58,159 --> 00:52:02,639
million dollars up front. So I am really curious to

1129
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:07,519
see these bidding wars for big time BYU and Utah

1130
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:09,039
players in the transfer portal.

1131
00:52:09,599 --> 00:52:11,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all the transfer portal is alive and well,

1132
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:14,079
and it's gonna give it the BYU, but it's also

1133
00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:16,400
fans just want to let y'all know it's going to

1134
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:18,920
take it. I think as well. Now, a couple of

1135
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:21,239
guys that have already hopped in Lamson Waller thought there

1136
00:52:21,280 --> 00:52:24,000
was a proven talent there Dom that's tough. Maybe he

1137
00:52:24,039 --> 00:52:26,199
wasn't gonna play. It's also a bunch of talent that's

1138
00:52:26,199 --> 00:52:27,599
also coming in might be tough.

1139
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 3: Receivers.

1140
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: Yea.

1141
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:35,760
Speaker 4: The wide receivers are the ones, and the wide receiver

1142
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,039
position is the one that's like guaranteed losing pass catchers.

1143
00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:43,360
Speaker 1: Well it would It makes you think, right, that makes

1144
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:46,199
you think that again maybe and we don't know all this, right,

1145
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,960
We haven't been given this information that maybe you might

1146
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:50,239
think of. And this is why you know, I got

1147
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,679
to get INTERVIEWEDFESTI SA TALKI to the wide receivers coach.

1148
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:56,079
Maybe conversations have happened already that we don't know about.

1149
00:52:56,119 --> 00:52:57,800
Maybe this stuff will get addressed in the off season

1150
00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,679
of maybe they said, hey, let's find your place because

1151
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:02,639
you're not getting playing time. Coline said it today in

1152
00:53:02,679 --> 00:53:05,679
the media availability when I asked him about you know,

1153
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,000
hey is the Pop Tarts Bowl of Consensus and you

1154
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,239
know another report I'd asked him about transferport and all

1155
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,920
that connecting and guy's opting out, and Colinie said, when

1156
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,039
a guy goes into the transferport, it's because of playing time.

1157
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,639
So what it is and look at it. Look at

1158
00:53:17,639 --> 00:53:19,920
the guys that have gone in Jay Griffin playing time.

1159
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:24,599
I think Don McKenzie, you know, playing time. Marcus McKenzie's

1160
00:53:24,599 --> 00:53:26,360
been playing, you know, on special teams and a gunner,

1161
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,400
so he was still around, saw him at practice, and

1162
00:53:28,679 --> 00:53:31,039
you know, and then you look at guys like le

1163
00:53:31,159 --> 00:53:32,960
Mason got dinged up a little bit, you know, in

1164
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:35,360
camp and you know, was trying to work through an injury.

1165
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:36,679
Maybe that bears you a little bit low on the

1166
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,360
depth chart because Brett, we know what the best ability is.

1167
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:42,119
It's availability. So he's like, hey, I feel like I'm

1168
00:53:42,119 --> 00:53:44,079
a starter day one. Maybe that's through his mind. I

1169
00:53:44,159 --> 00:53:46,199
don't know. I havn't talked to the kid, and now

1170
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,239
he's thinking, Okay, well I'm gonna go elsewhere, and then

1171
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,079
they're having these conversations of this guy might get brought up. Look,

1172
00:53:51,079 --> 00:53:52,559
players in the locker room see a lot more when

1173
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:55,360
I remember what playing rugby, I remember in practice and

1174
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:57,119
I don't think this might be good coaching. And hopefully

1175
00:53:57,159 --> 00:53:59,239
my coaches don't jp me for this. They straight up

1176
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,960
had conversations at the end of the semester, guys, if

1177
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,920
you don't work hard, we're bringing in guys next semester

1178
00:54:04,159 --> 00:54:07,039
and they can and will take your spot. Right during practice.

1179
00:54:07,039 --> 00:54:09,239
I remember that happening. So if that's rugby that no

1180
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,000
one cares about that as a program that is not

1181
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:14,360
sponsored Division one at all, even though we play other

1182
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,239
Division one schools that they do offer scholarships imagine a

1183
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,960
Division one high level football. They know what's going on.

1184
00:54:22,039 --> 00:54:24,320
They're being told these things. So look, don't blame any

1185
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,239
kid for trying to leave to get more playing time.

1186
00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:28,440
They work so hard Brett to be in this position,

1187
00:54:28,519 --> 00:54:31,760
So not upset again. Just want to remind people if

1188
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,199
you're just tuning into the show talking about the Walker

1189
00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:35,639
Lions thing, and to give a little bit of a tip.

1190
00:54:35,639 --> 00:54:38,320
But I'm gonna reread what he posted. He's announced that

1191
00:54:38,320 --> 00:54:41,199
he's going into the trans portal and it was reported

1192
00:54:41,199 --> 00:54:43,960
by Hayes Fawcett of on three. This is the message

1193
00:54:44,039 --> 00:54:46,119
that he set out. He's like, I'm incredibly grateful for

1194
00:54:46,199 --> 00:54:49,079
my time at the University of Southern California. It has

1195
00:54:49,079 --> 00:54:51,280
been an honor to put on the Cardinal and gold

1196
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,840
and represent such a historic program. The memories made in

1197
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,519
the coliseum, the battles on the field, and the brotherhood

1198
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:58,800
built with my teammates are the things I would cherish

1199
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,079
for the rest of my life too. My teammates, thank

1200
00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:02,960
you for pushing me every day, holding me to a

1201
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:06,480
high standard, making this journey unforgettable. The relationships we built

1202
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:08,880
go far beyond football, and I will always carry them

1203
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:11,199
with me. I want to extend a special thanks to

1204
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,480
Coach Riley, Coach Hansen, Coach Savage, Coach True, coach Wiley.

1205
00:55:15,559 --> 00:55:18,239
Thank you for your leadership, belief and investment in me,

1206
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:20,480
both as a player and as a person. I am

1207
00:55:20,519 --> 00:55:24,119
truly grateful for the opportunity to learn grow under your guidance.

1208
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:27,239
After a lot of prayer, reflection and thought thoughtful consideration,

1209
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,400
I've decided to change it the transfer portal as I

1210
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,000
take the next step in my journey, and I will

1211
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:33,639
always be a Trojan. I will forever be thankful for

1212
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:37,079
everything USC has given me. Fight on, now bring that

1213
00:55:37,159 --> 00:55:39,840
up when you give that thorough of a thankful I'm

1214
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,679
going into the portal, Brett. It lets me know if

1215
00:55:42,679 --> 00:55:45,280
he were to come to BYU, everything gets signed out

1216
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:47,280
through paper and he gets on campus. It's to play

1217
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,199
for BYU and to play with his brother. That's what

1218
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:50,599
it means. Look, I want to give you a fun

1219
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:52,880
fact and a lot of people might not know this,

1220
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:54,519
and this is hopefully not too much of a diet

1221
00:55:54,519 --> 00:55:58,119
tried because we do have to get to break. I

1222
00:55:58,199 --> 00:56:00,480
remember when Walker went on his mission. I was working

1223
00:56:00,519 --> 00:56:02,280
at the Missionary Training Center. I was in the student

1224
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,679
manager position role and they said, hey, Ron Walker, Lions

1225
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,559
is coming. I was like, I'm aware, and they're like, oh,

1226
00:56:07,599 --> 00:56:09,199
you're aware, because we get all the print outs, and

1227
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:10,719
I knew he was going on the mission, so I

1228
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:12,119
looked at the paper. I was trying to obey the

1229
00:56:12,159 --> 00:56:14,199
rules and not go search him. Knew where his mission

1230
00:56:14,199 --> 00:56:16,079
he was going to, and they said, the church is

1231
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:17,440
going to be doing a feature and he's going to

1232
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:19,880
be coming here. So I remember seeing Walker and Writer

1233
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,199
when they're at the MTC and coming in all of that,

1234
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,800
and I said, what is the likelihood that if everything

1235
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,679
were to work out in the end, that he would

1236
00:56:26,679 --> 00:56:28,920
be at BYU? Because he's already in provo going on

1237
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:31,679
a mission. You know they do the family does like

1238
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,199
BYU the parents and said okay, and here we are

1239
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,320
years later, So everything, guys always comes into frushing. But

1240
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,559
I remember thinking that Brett when he was getting dropped

1241
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:42,280
off right there in provo with his parents, and I said,

1242
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,880
that is a future BYU, Cougar and here we are

1243
00:56:45,199 --> 00:56:46,960
lo and behold and look. I got my eyes on

1244
00:56:47,039 --> 00:56:49,400
him before the mission and he wasn't even you know,

1245
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:51,840
as built as he was. Now. It's a big boy

1246
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,400
it's a big kid. And if he's catching touchdowns, if

1247
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,800
he's running routes for BYU next season, it's going to

1248
00:56:57,880 --> 00:57:00,559
be glorious, no doubt about it. So we'll just wait

1249
00:57:00,559 --> 00:57:02,440
and see. Wheret we will wait and see, but I

1250
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,679
have to think that this would be a decision that's

1251
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:07,079
made sooner rather than later. But we'll find out. But

1252
00:57:07,119 --> 00:57:09,480
again that's the poll of today. What's your confidence level

1253
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,920
that BYU lands forced our transportal tied end walk a lion?

1254
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,559
Are you very confident, you somewhat confident, not very confident,

1255
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:17,960
or you have no confidence at all. If you have

1256
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:20,480
no confidence, look BYU is lost out on high level talent.

1257
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,719
It's totally okay. I think the tides are shifting with

1258
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,559
them begin the Big twelve, but it's totally possible. Let

1259
00:57:25,639 --> 00:57:28,280
us know you can catch that. Paul on Ax is

1260
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,559
going to be at Crittle Benjamin Gods just also want

1261
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:33,679
to let you know it's just the season to be giving. ESPN,

1262
00:57:33,719 --> 00:57:35,679
the Fan and the Rocky Mount of Chevy Dealers invite

1263
00:57:35,679 --> 00:57:38,199
you to help those at the road home this holiday

1264
00:57:38,239 --> 00:57:42,039
season with needed blankets, coats, shoes, hats and gloves. Drop

1265
00:57:42,039 --> 00:57:44,440
off donations. Say any of the Rocky Mount of Chevy dealers.

1266
00:57:44,639 --> 00:57:48,039
Go to our website espnefan dot com for the dealer locations.

1267
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,119
You can click on the home page number four. You'll

1268
00:57:50,119 --> 00:57:52,400
see it right there on the right. Spread the warmth

1269
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,840
and help others find a way. Like Brett said, everybody

1270
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,000
doesn't get to spend Christmas like you do. If you

1271
00:57:57,039 --> 00:57:59,880
give back, that's a great opportunity. Shout out to Jared Bleds.

1272
00:58:00,039 --> 00:58:01,679
I know when we were doing a remote a couple

1273
00:58:01,679 --> 00:58:04,199
of weeks at the sky wonning the sky Chevrolet Provo,

1274
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:08,199
he was dropping off toothpaste, socks. Look, give back, give back.

1275
00:58:08,239 --> 00:58:10,519
I'm a prime example of I remember the year me

1276
00:58:10,599 --> 00:58:12,920
and my family got Christmas gifts from people in the

1277
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,639
ward because you know, my mom was struggling that lost

1278
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:18,280
their job. It mad ters. I don't want to have

1279
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:20,840
to beat the table, but it does. Look. Don't be selfish,

1280
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,239
don't be thinking of just about yourself. Get back this one.

1281
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:24,480
It doesn't have to be big. I'm not saying it

1282
00:58:24,519 --> 00:58:26,639
has to be gifts. It could be clothing, eyemus. But

1283
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,920
I remember, before we moved into a different war, my

1284
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:30,880
old bishop we would go to Walmart and he would

1285
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,039
buy one hundred dollars for other stuff. Get him a shirt,

1286
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,599
get him pants, get them you know, you know, a

1287
00:58:35,639 --> 00:58:37,599
pair of shoes, a coda blank. It doesn't have to

1288
00:58:37,639 --> 00:58:40,639
be anything fantastic, but giving back. That is how we're

1289
00:58:40,639 --> 00:58:43,639
able to truly live the spirit of Christmas. Is not

1290
00:58:43,679 --> 00:58:46,239
about us, It's about serving others. But we need to

1291
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:48,159
go to break. I've been way too long and I've

1292
00:58:48,159 --> 00:58:50,840
gone on this tangent. Guys will come back. Don't go anywhere.

1293
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:53,559
Let's get into a little basketball talk. Recap this win

1294
00:58:53,679 --> 00:58:56,519
yesterday over Pacific. They didn't fall BYU does not belong

1295
00:58:56,559 --> 00:59:00,360
in the WCC anymore. Don't go anywhere. Teasing Kevin post

1296
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,679
game sound coming up next, but a word from our sponsors.

1297
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