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Speaker 1: Good morning, Tiffany. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 2: Good?

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Speaker 1: How are you absolutely fantastic? Oh my god? The places

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that you take us with your writing, and this time

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around we're going to Martha's vineyard.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I love the way that you're able to give us

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all a ticket and then we go for a ride.

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Speaker 2: I love that analogy. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: How is it that you can place your mind in

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that before we get it? What do you do as

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a discipline or a mental exercise to be able to

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put focus on the paragraphs that you create.

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Speaker 2: Out side of just being a method author. I try

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to be as detailed as possible, but not too much.

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You know, I don't want to spend twenty pages describing

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a tree, but I want you to steal that tree

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as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, I can relate with that because I've

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been that person that has taken three pages to describe

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that dang tree. Making the decision to write for the

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younger readers, Now, I see that's the thing about it.

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How are you you keeping their attention when I can't

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hold their attention for twenty five seconds?

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Speaker 2: You know what, I've realized that kids really like thrillers. Yep,

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kids really like the scary they want to be in it.

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They want to feel like they are in the middle

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of it, because they always want to feel like I'm

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surviving something because at the same time they are surviving

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childhood in a way, they're surviving feeling like parents don't understand,

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et cetera. So they want to know what that feels like,

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and so they are sort of leaning towards the thriller

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and horror novels. So I realized, you know, when I

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was writing a bunch of YA novels, I would see

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younger kids in the crowd. I wanted to really like

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write a book that spills more to them and then

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not be too scary.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, though, I'm starting to meet a

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lot of adults in their middle age and older reading

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your books, and so it's almost like the YA books

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are their safe place and escape as well.

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Speaker 2: Oh well. I My theory behind that is, especially when

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we were younger, we didn't have a lot of books

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like this. We didn't have a lot of specific middle

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grade and young adult books that really spoke to some

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of the things that we were going through, and so

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oftentimes I feel like the amount of adults that reminded

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content let read my books are really just reparenting their

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inner child. They're kind of going back and answering the

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questions that they never got answers to. So I think

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that's one of the reasons why some of the adults

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are drawn to these types of books is because I'm

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like answering questions that they probably have that we're too

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afraid to ask.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it also because you What I feel in reading

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your words is I always feel that you're giving me

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permission to explore.

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Speaker 2: Well, absolutely, you have to explore, and I think that's

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something that we didn't really have the permission to do.

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But also one of the things that I try to

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do is make sure I put every single fact as

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an issue on a table and letting you make the decision.

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I hate to spuan feed lessons. I've rather you kind

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of see results and what happens if you do or

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don't do something. Well.

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Speaker 1: To me, you've you've mastered the art of a writing cliffhanger.

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I mean you you you take us places you don't

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mean it's like, Okay, I'll read one more page and

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you end up going ten more.

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Speaker 2: That's definitely our foruma. I feel like I adopted from

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like roscience from reading all of his books when I

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was younger. I remember him saying how I interviewed that

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every track or he tried to end a clickhanger, and

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I realized that, Oh my god, do I just steal

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this holeman flag? Like I guess I kind of do.

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Speaker 1: Please do not move. There's more with Tiffany D. Jackson

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coming up next. Hey, thanks for coming back to my

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conversation with author Tiffany D. Jackson. The book we're talking

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about is Blood in the Water, and I want listeners,

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especially those in the Carolinas, to understand that this book

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also includes sharks. And the reason why bring that up

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is because we've got that huge shark off our shore

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right now that everybody's been talking about, and it's like, ah,

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here we go, a great shark story, right, Oh gosh.

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Speaker 2: I didn't really know much about sharks, being you know,

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from Brooklyn, New York, and they do have beaches in

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New York, but it wasn't something that like specifically happens

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a lot. But it wasn't until I started to go

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to Marc's vineyard that I would hear about sharks in

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the water, and specifically in marcus vineyard because that made

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people know this, But Marcus Vineyard was a place where

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they shot the movie Jazz and Jaws actually just turned

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fifty years old. The cast two weeks ago, actually fifty

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year old. But there's a lot of people who still

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live in the island that rememble working on the movie.

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There's displays in the movie, and there's specifically this bridge

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that's called the Jaws Bridge that was a very prominent

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bridge in the movie that people actually jump off all

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into the water. It's it's like a tradition that everyone does.

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It's a very low bridge. It's not like high up

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in the air, but it's low enough that when you

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jump into the water, it's still it's a way. And

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so that bridge is actually in the book. It's actually

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where the in the book takes place.

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Speaker 1: It's so funny when when when you say it that way,

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because I mean, all the way through the book, I

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kept hearing in my head dunt dunk, dunt dump, And

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now that you just said that, I just I just

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wanted to do it again. Now I have to tell

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you that my wife and I have had many discussions

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about her name. I say it's Kilanie. She says, I

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am wrong. Am I right, You're right? Why because that why?

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That why is what is what she said? Now that's

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not right. Kilanie doesn't have a y in it, But

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I mean I love the way that that you you

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captured my attention just with a name.

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Speaker 2: Well you know a little from fact there. Klania was

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actually on a short list of names from my daughter

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when I was pregnant. I was actually I was pregnant

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when I was writing this book, and so Klanie was

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one of those names. I was like a Robby nice.

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But we ended on a whole different name and name

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that made the most sense to us, which is Bicklin.

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Speaker 1: So so do you right in a way of thinking,

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have a binge watching TV show? And the reason why

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is because there is a continuation to all of your

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stories that you keep everything is forward motion.

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Speaker 2: Because I do think that when you get into when

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you're writing, it's very much like you're in a car

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and you're in a detonation. You're driving towards a destination,

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and so everything should be propelling that car forward in

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a sense. And so that's always been like my somewhat

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goal is to make sure that you're always that you

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will always have the you know, Pale to the metal,

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as they used to say, and you're driving towards the destination.

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You may be swerving, you may like sat a couple

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of places to get gap, but you're always ultimately going

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towards the destination, which is the end of the story.

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guess thrillers are more, you know, the idea of getting

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a car driving versus sometimes you know, some stories are

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people just walking and no, I want you to be

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in a sports car when you're reading my book.

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Speaker 1: There's a side of my heart after, you know, sharing

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conversations with you and reading your words. And I wanted

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to talk about this before. But do you write so

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that others will write? You inspire people to pick up

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their own instruments and let their imaginations grow.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, especially kids I was. I was definitely a kid

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who always wanted to write. I always wanted to be

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an author, but I had never met an author. I

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was surrounded by people who thought that, you know, authors

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were broke, starving artists. So I, you know, it sort

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of deterret and you know, I was sort of pushed

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away from that dream. And that's one of the other

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reasons why I want to write. I want. I want

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to be able to show other people that you can

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still you know, lead to actually write your own story,

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to write your tree.

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Speaker 1: I guess see. That's the very reason why I created

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View from the Writing Instrument on iHeartRadio, and because I

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know that there is somebody sitting at home on the

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slow or in their bedroom that has written for years

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and it's underneath their bed or in the attic, and

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it's like, come on, make the jump.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And it's a scary jump, you know, it's like

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jumping off of it's like jumping off that job for it.

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It can feel very scary, but very like thrilling at

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the end of it, because then you get into the

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water and you're like, oh, I was meant to be here.

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Speaker 1: So what is your actual emotion when you finish a book?

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Because when I do, the first thing I do is

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I put my hands over my face and I just

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sit there and I just say, I'm so grateful, thank

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you so much for giving me this book, thank you

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so much.

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Speaker 2: Lately it's been like, oh God, I'm released. Sometimes oh

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sometimes deadlines can really go. Deadlines are deadlines, and they

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can be very exhausting and tense and stressful and it's

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you know, now being a mom is definitely different. Writing

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before you have all the time in the world, and

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now it's like I have very like you know, find out,

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but it's still amazing to do. Like I'm still always

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so like in shock. When I do it, it's like

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I really did, like right down on all those words.

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Oh my god.

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Speaker 1: Where can people go to find out more about you, Tiffany?

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Speaker 2: So they can visit on my website writ in BK

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that's w ri pe I NDK dot com. It's also

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right in BK on Instagram and threads and on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: Wow. Please come back to this show anytime in the future.

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You know that door is always going to be open

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for you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much. I really appreciate you having me.

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Speaker 1: Will you be brilliant today?

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, thank you