Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the
Epstein Chronicles. There is a whole cadre of people out
there that think the Epstein files are overblown, and that
Jeffrey Epstein was nowhere near as bad as people are
making them out, and that this whole entire thing is
just overblown, you know, like the satanic panic of the
nineteen eighties. And look, I think there's some merit in
being skeptical. We should all be skeptical of the things
we're told. But where my skepticism ends is where the
evidence starts. And over the past seven years, I have
seen more than enough evidence to initiate a real investigation,
because I assure you there is plenty to panic about.
And I don't know if it has to do with
cannibalism or kids being eaten. I've never seen any hard
evidence for that. Now. We have some emails that are
a bit goofy, right, talking about beef jerky storing it
at mockers. But when you dig into that, the man
he was talking to had a restaurant called Cannibal So
I don't know where they eating kids. Maybe I can't
confirm that one way or the other, but That's one
of those side quests that I have no interest in following,
because I think that if you dive into the meat
and the potatoes and you work your way through the things,
that we can actually prove, all that other stuff will
fall into place eventually, right once you open the door.
And I think it's important to get that door open,
and once we have full transparency and a DOJ or
a special council that is only looking for facts and
not trying to protect people, then we can get to
the bottom of what's a panic and what's not. But
until then, I don't want to hear shit about oh,
people are overreacting. We don't have any idea what those
files truly hold. And while I certainly have my doubts
about the most salacious claims that have emerged from the files,
we have a full blown investigation. I'm not willing to
write anything off, even things that might sound absurd. So
today we have an article from the Spectator and the
headline the Epstein Files and the New Satanic Panic. This
article was authored by Bridget Fetas. I've spent the last
few years building an audience of skeptics, and let's be honest,
more than a few conspiracy theorists who turned out to
be write about some pretty big things. We saw me
too devolve into a moral panic where accusation equal guilt
and due process was something only a rape apologists cared about.
That's not true. That's not true at all. Now, was
it a bit overblown? For sure? Were people getting fired
for just allegations they were? Should they have had due process?
They should have. But when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein
and it comes to what's happening to his friends, now,
how many years did they have to come forward? How
many years did they have to make things right, to
reach out and speak to the FBI or local police, whatever.
But instead what they did was lied about their relationship.
And now that they're getting outed, people want to call
it a panic. Here's an idea. Don't hang out with
people like Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty simple man now, bridget fantasy.
She might not care, she might not give a damn
what people do with their spare time or if they
hurt kids. But most moral decent people we care. And
if you own a business or you run a company,
and one of Jeffrey Epstein's disgusting buddies is working for you,
you have every right in the world to fire that person. Remember,
these are the same people that demanded people get fired
for making comments about Charlie Kirk being murdered. Now, look,
I don't agree with those comments, and I found them
to be quite disgusting, But guess what, they shouldn't be fired, right,
you want to talk about a moral panic. We watch
COVID turn half the country into snitches who drunk on
their own righteousness, routed out neighbors for having a barbecue.
We talked endlessly on podcasts about groupthink, social contagion, and mobs.
Notice how she says she wasn't talking about Epstein though, Right,
She's a tourist like the rest of these people who
have a lot to say. They haven't been here from
the jump, and she's doing this now to drive engagement.
That's it. And trying to compare this to COVID or
to any of these other things is just ridiculous. Look,
if you weren't hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, you have
nothing to worry about, pretty simple, right, And on some
of the biggest questions, the lab laque, institutional corruption, gender
of firming care, and the machinery of public manipulation, the
conspiracy theorists were vindicated. Well, that's funny. She brings up
gender of firming care. So you're worried about kids who
are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen getting a sex change but not
getting abused. That's weird. If they have the providence to,
you know, choose to, as you would put it, engage
with Jeffrey Epstein, and do so as a prostitute, then
shouldn't they have the kind of providence that's needed to
get gender affirming care or whatever you culture warriors call it.
I mean, all we hear about is protect the kids,
Protect the kids. And now with this situation, it's a
moral panic. Doesn't seem very consistent, does it. However, being
right about some things has become a license to skip
the evidence on the next thing, and the Epstein files
are where the license is getting cashed in by everyone
tell me you don't know what you're talking about without
telling me you don't know what you're talking about. Now,
before you go screaming pedal apologist, I didn't mean the
people who want transparency. I don't mean the people who
think powerful predators should face consequences. I mean the people,
our people, My people, who are treating a document dump
like a decorring, connecting dots that don't connect, assigning guilt
by association, and whipping their audiences into a frenzy that
believes the ball worshiping elites definitely drank the blood of
the infants and turned them into jerky with the confidence
of someone who has never once been wrong about anything.
Sure sounds like what Q was doing for all those years,
bridget Did you have anything to say about that? Anything
to say about Oh Tom Hanks is at gitmo Oprah's
being brought to a black site to be interrogated, ther
storm is gathering. Shut up, please, just shut up. Because
all of that was cool, right, All of that was
within the realm of reality. That was all stuff that
could really happen. But this, this is a step too far. Look, folks,
never mind what you've seen, never mind what you've read.
You should just listen to what people like this author
tell you because they obviously know better. Pass Vindication has
turned into its own form of authority, and it's just
as unearned and just as dangerous as the institutional authority
it replaced. The skeptics and the conspiracy theorists have merged
into one giant horseshoe shaped audience, and they found the
one panic that they all have permission to join. Is
she upset that she wasn't on this story from the jump?
Is that what it is? Seems like there's a lot
of that going around. Look, I get it, you had
a blind spot, you missed it, But doubling down and
acting like there's nothing here is wild azell. And here's
the thing. This isn't a left right problem. It's an
everyone problem. The extremely online Democrats are wielding the Epstein
connection as a cudgel against Trump. Branding is entire orbit
as the Epstein class, while they are are you crazy
right now? How many Epstein adjacent people are around Trump?
How many were around Biden? How many were around George
Bush and Barack Obama? So yeah, the Epstein class, proper
way to classify these people. Extremely online Republicans are convince
the files will finally expose the network of democratic pedal elites.
She had no problem with that before, right, she cashed
in on that. I'm sure I built an audience on skeptics,
And yeah, none of them thought that this was going on.
None of them thought that the WEF was coming to
steal your kids. Remember all of that. Klau Schwarber or
whatever his name was, was the most evil man ever
to do it. Meanwhile, do was nothing but a pawn.
You want to talk about whipping your audience up into
a frenzy, That's how people like this build their audience.
But now, now stop asking questions. Just listen to what
the government's telling you, because they're telling you the truth. Now.
Of course, when the other party gets into power, everything
will be a conspiracy again, everything, but this with tangible evidence.
This is a moral panic. Both sides are looking at
the same documents and seeing completely different movies. The Epstein
files are like a box of chocolates. There's something in
there for everyone. We've seen versions of this movie before.
In the eighties and early nineties, the satanic panic consumed America.
Preschool teachers were accused of ritual abuse. Yeah, did they
go to the island. Did they hang out at Jeffrey
Epstein's house with traffic girls? Did they accept money from
Jeffrey Epstein? Did they pass on state secrets? A word?
None of that happened, Okay, so you're just talking nonsense,
got it. Families were destroyed, people went to prison, the
whole thing was built on nothing, recovered memories, leading questions,
and a culture so desperate to protect children that it
went into some kind of collective hysteria. And the irony
is thick. The same people that yelled for the last
eight years about protect the children now say it's a
moral panic and hysteria. Who are these people really protecting?
And what's the goal here? That's my real question. The
Epstein situation is different in one critical respect. Jeffrey Epstein
was a real predator, Real crimes were committed. We know
the real victims exist. But that kernel of truth is
exactly what makes this current panic more dangerous, not less.
It gives everyone permission to treat speculation as truth, proximity
is proof, and a flight log as a conviction. Well,
who are you listening to? That's the problem. Get your
information from other people. Nobody who's serious about this story
or serious about justice is chasing those salacious ghosts. That's
all going to come in time, because guess what, there
are verifiable crimes here that are provable, and frankly, it's
not even debatable. The fact that something terrible actually happened
becomes a justification for whatever theory you might want to push,
isn't it weird? Man? Is compelling and it might be true,
but it's not evidence. Well, you know what is evidence.
All those witness statements, all those core documents, all those
people who corroborated the stories that we've heard time and
time again over forty girls from Palm Beach High School
who were abused. That's real. Okay, that shit is real,
and there's plenty of evidence to support it, just like
there's plenty of evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking people.
I mean, we just have a report coming out of
England today about Epstein trafficking women and girls through UK
all the way up till his death. And that's something
I've been telling you for years, that Jeffrey Epstein was
active all the way up till his death. And there's
plenty of compelling evidence to prove that. And the medium
has evolved. The Satanic panic was fueled by daytime talk
shows Heraldo, Sally Jesse, Raphael Oprah. These shows had massive
reach and whole obligation to verify anything before putting it
in front of millions of eyeballs. They fed on the
fear and guilt of the first generation of women to
trust their kids todaycares and mass They didn't spread the
panic because they were They spread it because it was
an incredible television Now, mind you, in the opening paragraph
of this piece, she told you that's exactly how she
built her audience. By the way, that's not how I
built mine. I don't talk about Slasia's bullshit here, okay,
and keeping it a buck. Everybody wants names, names, names.
I've been naming names now for seven years. You know
those names that were just called out on the Congressional floor.
I've been calling them dudes out since twenty nineteen, way
before they were popular or this story was popular. Now,
one thing I will say is there's a lot of
people that have shown up that are doing exactly what
Bridget is suggesting here. There's a lot of people that
are only focusing on the salacious aspects of the story,
and that really doesn't do it any good because it
gives room for pieces like this to pop up and
then everybody gets painted with the same brush. It's the
same shit that I dealt with for the last seven years,
trying to put everybody under the same umbrella. And that's
not the truth because for some of us This shit
is not a game. This is not about engagement, it's
not about driving viewership. I don't care about any of that.
I don't have any kind of social media presence because
I don't care. I don't care about being famous, I
don't care about being popular. I don't care about any
of it. What I care about is these scumbags who
have been screwing all of us for all these years
are held accountable. And if that's via financial crimes, so
be it. If they're guilty, they should go to jail
like everybody else. And if that's a panic, well I
guess I'm a fucking panicking. Podcasting is the daytime talk
show of our era, only worse. They're no producers who
might occasionally pump the brakes, no network standard departments, no FCC, nothing,
just a microphone, an audience, and an algorithm that rewards
the most outrageous possible interpretation of any given event. I mean,
look not for nothing, But isn't that exactly what you
and all your friends do? And isn't that what you're
doing here taking the contrarian position to try and drive
the algorithm, as Candace Owens has demonstrated with impressive consistency.
You can be wrong every single day, demonstrably, provably wrong,
and your audience will only grow because they aren't here
for accuracy. They come for the feeling of being on
the right side of a secret history that the normies
are too naive to see. While she's outing herself right
here as somebody that looks like she despises her own audience.
That seems like a pretty bad idea. This is the
incentive structure that has eaten the American discourse alive. Our
institutions have failed so completely that people will believe whatever
they want to believe, and the market has responded accordingly.
You see, here's the problem. Instead of attacking the institutions
like she should, she has a problem with people who
are filling in the gaps. But that's human nature when
we don't have the whole story. So be mad at
the institution, be mad at the Department of Justice, be
mad at the administration. But instead she wants to be
mad at her own listeners, her own viewers, her own readers.
There is no penalty for wild speculation, no reputational cost
to being wrong. The crazier the allegation, the more your
audience trusts you because in a world where every institution
has lied to you, the person saying the most unbelievable
thing must be the one telling the truth. Everyone on
all sides knows this, and everyone on all sides is
cashing in. It doesn't matter what team jersey you're wearing,
the Epstein Files or content event of the year, and
no one is leaving money on the table except me apparently.
So this is exactly what I was saying. Seems to me,
she's upset because she doesn't know the real story, so
she's forced to play catch up, and this is not
the story to do it. So instead of really giving
it a good hard look and looking at the actual evidence,
she's decided that she's going to full on the most
salacious part of it and trying to mean everybody who's interested,
and frankly, I think it's sour grapes. And if you notice,
a lot of the people who are talking trash about
this story about what's going on here were the people
that rose to prominence with COVID, But now they're not
the main character anymore. And it's a big deal. Oh
we're what do you mean, We're not part of this story.
We didn't break it no, you didn't. In fact, you
don't even know what you're talking about. It would be
depressing where it's solely a content game, but it's not.
Real people are getting caught in the insanity. Not a
word about the survivors, not a word about the girls
who were abused, not a word about the rest of
us who are getting fucked by these people. But real
people are getting caught up in the insanity. When Representatives
Row Conna and Thomas Massey, a Democrat and a Republican
united in bipartisan recklessness, started naming names and amplifying allegations
from the fire, they weren't performing some brave act of transparency.
They were directing a mob at specific human beings, like
you did during COVID. I mean, you folks were just
so pleasant during that. Do they think we've all forgotten?
I mean, the grift was out of control. Everybody all
of a sudden was a scientist. Take this, take that,
Oh this is fake, this is real. Meanwhile, I kept
my mouth shut, you know why, because I had no
idea what I was talking about. Kind Of like all
these people when it comes to Epstein, Some of those
people turned out to be ordinary citizens with no connection
to anything criminal. It didn't matter. The names were out.
The Internet did what the Internet does. People who had
done nothing wrong became targets because congressmen wanted an engagement,
and a culture that has replaced due process with virality
gave him the tools to get it. The Satanic Panic
destroyed real people too. That's the part everyone forgets. It
wasn't just a weird cultural moment. Innocent people went to prison,
children were traumatized by the investigations meant to protect them.
We tell ourselves we've learned from that, and then we
do it again with better technology and a bigger audience.
The question isn't whether Jeffrey Epstein was a monster. He was.
The question is whether the people who correctly identified pass
moral panics can resist turning a real crime into everything
crime for clicks. No one in media paid a price
for the NonStop, silacious fear mongering of the Satanic Panic.
They all got richer, like all of you did during COVID,
I mean, stop it. Could you be any more of
a hypocrite? Holy shit? Although if you're all the way
down the Epstein rabbit hole, you probably think it's evidence
that the widely debunked satanic panic stuff was in fact
also real. While I disagree with the author about most
of the things she's saying, what she asked to say
about some of the more salacious stuff is not completely
incorrect because it does more harm than good. And there's
a lot of people out there that are trying to
capitalize on this and monetize it without the real story.
So what they're doing is grasping onto the most relacious
parts and trying to use those for engagement farming. So
in that regard, she's right, there's a lot of people
out there that really just don't have any idea what
they're talking about. And as we can see here in
the article that goes for journalists as well, all right, folks,
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