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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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Epstein Chronicles. There is a whole cadre of people out

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there that think the Epstein files are overblown, and that

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Jeffrey Epstein was nowhere near as bad as people are

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making them out, and that this whole entire thing is

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just overblown, you know, like the satanic panic of the

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nineteen eighties. And look, I think there's some merit in

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being skeptical. We should all be skeptical of the things

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we're told. But where my skepticism ends is where the

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evidence starts. And over the past seven years, I have

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seen more than enough evidence to initiate a real investigation,

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because I assure you there is plenty to panic about.

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And I don't know if it has to do with

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cannibalism or kids being eaten. I've never seen any hard

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evidence for that. Now. We have some emails that are

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a bit goofy, right, talking about beef jerky storing it

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at mockers. But when you dig into that, the man

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he was talking to had a restaurant called Cannibal So

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I don't know where they eating kids. Maybe I can't

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confirm that one way or the other, but That's one

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of those side quests that I have no interest in following,

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because I think that if you dive into the meat

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and the potatoes and you work your way through the things,

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that we can actually prove, all that other stuff will

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fall into place eventually, right once you open the door.

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And I think it's important to get that door open,

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and once we have full transparency and a DOJ or

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a special council that is only looking for facts and

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not trying to protect people, then we can get to

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the bottom of what's a panic and what's not. But

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until then, I don't want to hear shit about oh,

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people are overreacting. We don't have any idea what those

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files truly hold. And while I certainly have my doubts

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about the most salacious claims that have emerged from the files,

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we have a full blown investigation. I'm not willing to

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write anything off, even things that might sound absurd. So

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today we have an article from the Spectator and the

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headline the Epstein Files and the New Satanic Panic. This

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article was authored by Bridget Fetas. I've spent the last

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few years building an audience of skeptics, and let's be honest,

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more than a few conspiracy theorists who turned out to

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be write about some pretty big things. We saw me

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too devolve into a moral panic where accusation equal guilt

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and due process was something only a rape apologists cared about.

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That's not true. That's not true at all. Now, was

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it a bit overblown? For sure? Were people getting fired

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for just allegations they were? Should they have had due process?

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They should have. But when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein

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and it comes to what's happening to his friends, now,

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how many years did they have to come forward? How

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many years did they have to make things right, to

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reach out and speak to the FBI or local police, whatever.

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But instead what they did was lied about their relationship.

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And now that they're getting outed, people want to call

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it a panic. Here's an idea. Don't hang out with

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people like Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty simple man now, bridget fantasy.

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She might not care, she might not give a damn

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what people do with their spare time or if they

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hurt kids. But most moral decent people we care. And

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if you own a business or you run a company,

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and one of Jeffrey Epstein's disgusting buddies is working for you,

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you have every right in the world to fire that person. Remember,

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these are the same people that demanded people get fired

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for making comments about Charlie Kirk being murdered. Now, look,

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I don't agree with those comments, and I found them

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to be quite disgusting, But guess what, they shouldn't be fired, right,

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you want to talk about a moral panic. We watch

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COVID turn half the country into snitches who drunk on

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their own righteousness, routed out neighbors for having a barbecue.

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We talked endlessly on podcasts about groupthink, social contagion, and mobs.

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Notice how she says she wasn't talking about Epstein though, Right,

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She's a tourist like the rest of these people who

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have a lot to say. They haven't been here from

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the jump, and she's doing this now to drive engagement.

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That's it. And trying to compare this to COVID or

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to any of these other things is just ridiculous. Look,

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if you weren't hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein, you have

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nothing to worry about, pretty simple, right, And on some

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of the biggest questions, the lab laque, institutional corruption, gender

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of firming care, and the machinery of public manipulation, the

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conspiracy theorists were vindicated. Well, that's funny. She brings up

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gender of firming care. So you're worried about kids who

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are fourteen, fifteen, sixteen getting a sex change but not

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getting abused. That's weird. If they have the providence to,

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you know, choose to, as you would put it, engage

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with Jeffrey Epstein, and do so as a prostitute, then

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shouldn't they have the kind of providence that's needed to

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get gender affirming care or whatever you culture warriors call it.

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I mean, all we hear about is protect the kids,

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Protect the kids. And now with this situation, it's a

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moral panic. Doesn't seem very consistent, does it. However, being

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right about some things has become a license to skip

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the evidence on the next thing, and the Epstein files

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are where the license is getting cashed in by everyone

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tell me you don't know what you're talking about without

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telling me you don't know what you're talking about. Now,

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before you go screaming pedal apologist, I didn't mean the

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people who want transparency. I don't mean the people who

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think powerful predators should face consequences. I mean the people,

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our people, My people, who are treating a document dump

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like a decorring, connecting dots that don't connect, assigning guilt

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by association, and whipping their audiences into a frenzy that

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believes the ball worshiping elites definitely drank the blood of

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the infants and turned them into jerky with the confidence

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of someone who has never once been wrong about anything.

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Sure sounds like what Q was doing for all those years,

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bridget Did you have anything to say about that? Anything

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to say about Oh Tom Hanks is at gitmo Oprah's

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being brought to a black site to be interrogated, ther

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storm is gathering. Shut up, please, just shut up. Because

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all of that was cool, right, All of that was

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within the realm of reality. That was all stuff that

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could really happen. But this, this is a step too far. Look, folks,

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never mind what you've seen, never mind what you've read.

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You should just listen to what people like this author

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tell you because they obviously know better. Pass Vindication has

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turned into its own form of authority, and it's just

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as unearned and just as dangerous as the institutional authority

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it replaced. The skeptics and the conspiracy theorists have merged

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into one giant horseshoe shaped audience, and they found the

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one panic that they all have permission to join. Is

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she upset that she wasn't on this story from the jump?

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Is that what it is? Seems like there's a lot

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of that going around. Look, I get it, you had

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a blind spot, you missed it, But doubling down and

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acting like there's nothing here is wild azell. And here's

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the thing. This isn't a left right problem. It's an

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everyone problem. The extremely online Democrats are wielding the Epstein

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connection as a cudgel against Trump. Branding is entire orbit

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as the Epstein class, while they are are you crazy

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right now? How many Epstein adjacent people are around Trump?

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How many were around Biden? How many were around George

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Bush and Barack Obama? So yeah, the Epstein class, proper

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way to classify these people. Extremely online Republicans are convince

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the files will finally expose the network of democratic pedal elites.

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She had no problem with that before, right, she cashed

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in on that. I'm sure I built an audience on skeptics,

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And yeah, none of them thought that this was going on.

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None of them thought that the WEF was coming to

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steal your kids. Remember all of that. Klau Schwarber or

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whatever his name was, was the most evil man ever

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to do it. Meanwhile, do was nothing but a pawn.

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You want to talk about whipping your audience up into

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a frenzy, That's how people like this build their audience.

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But now, now stop asking questions. Just listen to what

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the government's telling you, because they're telling you the truth. Now.

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Of course, when the other party gets into power, everything

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will be a conspiracy again, everything, but this with tangible evidence.

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This is a moral panic. Both sides are looking at

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the same documents and seeing completely different movies. The Epstein

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files are like a box of chocolates. There's something in

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there for everyone. We've seen versions of this movie before.

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In the eighties and early nineties, the satanic panic consumed America.

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Preschool teachers were accused of ritual abuse. Yeah, did they

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go to the island. Did they hang out at Jeffrey

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Epstein's house with traffic girls? Did they accept money from

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Jeffrey Epstein? Did they pass on state secrets? A word?

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None of that happened, Okay, so you're just talking nonsense,

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got it. Families were destroyed, people went to prison, the

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whole thing was built on nothing, recovered memories, leading questions,

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and a culture so desperate to protect children that it

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went into some kind of collective hysteria. And the irony

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is thick. The same people that yelled for the last

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eight years about protect the children now say it's a

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moral panic and hysteria. Who are these people really protecting?

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And what's the goal here? That's my real question. The

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Epstein situation is different in one critical respect. Jeffrey Epstein

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was a real predator, Real crimes were committed. We know

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the real victims exist. But that kernel of truth is

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exactly what makes this current panic more dangerous, not less.

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It gives everyone permission to treat speculation as truth, proximity

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is proof, and a flight log as a conviction. Well,

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who are you listening to? That's the problem. Get your

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information from other people. Nobody who's serious about this story

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or serious about justice is chasing those salacious ghosts. That's

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all going to come in time, because guess what, there

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are verifiable crimes here that are provable, and frankly, it's

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not even debatable. The fact that something terrible actually happened

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becomes a justification for whatever theory you might want to push,

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isn't it weird? Man? Is compelling and it might be true,

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but it's not evidence. Well, you know what is evidence.

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All those witness statements, all those core documents, all those

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people who corroborated the stories that we've heard time and

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time again over forty girls from Palm Beach High School

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who were abused. That's real. Okay, that shit is real,

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and there's plenty of evidence to support it, just like

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there's plenty of evidence that Jeffrey Epstein was trafficking people.

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I mean, we just have a report coming out of

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England today about Epstein trafficking women and girls through UK

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all the way up till his death. And that's something

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I've been telling you for years, that Jeffrey Epstein was

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active all the way up till his death. And there's

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plenty of compelling evidence to prove that. And the medium

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has evolved. The Satanic panic was fueled by daytime talk

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shows Heraldo, Sally Jesse, Raphael Oprah. These shows had massive

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reach and whole obligation to verify anything before putting it

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in front of millions of eyeballs. They fed on the

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fear and guilt of the first generation of women to

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trust their kids todaycares and mass They didn't spread the

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panic because they were They spread it because it was

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an incredible television Now, mind you, in the opening paragraph

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of this piece, she told you that's exactly how she

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built her audience. By the way, that's not how I

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built mine. I don't talk about Slasia's bullshit here, okay,

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and keeping it a buck. Everybody wants names, names, names.

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I've been naming names now for seven years. You know

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those names that were just called out on the Congressional floor.

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I've been calling them dudes out since twenty nineteen, way

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before they were popular or this story was popular. Now,

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one thing I will say is there's a lot of

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people that have shown up that are doing exactly what

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Bridget is suggesting here. There's a lot of people that

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are only focusing on the salacious aspects of the story,

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and that really doesn't do it any good because it

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gives room for pieces like this to pop up and

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then everybody gets painted with the same brush. It's the

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same shit that I dealt with for the last seven years,

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trying to put everybody under the same umbrella. And that's

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not the truth because for some of us This shit

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is not a game. This is not about engagement, it's

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not about driving viewership. I don't care about any of that.

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I don't have any kind of social media presence because

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I don't care. I don't care about being famous, I

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don't care about being popular. I don't care about any

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of it. What I care about is these scumbags who

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have been screwing all of us for all these years

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are held accountable. And if that's via financial crimes, so

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be it. If they're guilty, they should go to jail

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like everybody else. And if that's a panic, well I

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guess I'm a fucking panicking. Podcasting is the daytime talk

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show of our era, only worse. They're no producers who

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might occasionally pump the brakes, no network standard departments, no FCC, nothing,

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just a microphone, an audience, and an algorithm that rewards

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the most outrageous possible interpretation of any given event. I mean,

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look not for nothing, But isn't that exactly what you

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and all your friends do? And isn't that what you're

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doing here taking the contrarian position to try and drive

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the algorithm, as Candace Owens has demonstrated with impressive consistency.

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You can be wrong every single day, demonstrably, provably wrong,

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and your audience will only grow because they aren't here

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for accuracy. They come for the feeling of being on

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the right side of a secret history that the normies

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are too naive to see. While she's outing herself right

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here as somebody that looks like she despises her own audience.

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That seems like a pretty bad idea. This is the

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incentive structure that has eaten the American discourse alive. Our

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institutions have failed so completely that people will believe whatever

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they want to believe, and the market has responded accordingly.

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You see, here's the problem. Instead of attacking the institutions

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like she should, she has a problem with people who

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are filling in the gaps. But that's human nature when

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we don't have the whole story. So be mad at

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the institution, be mad at the Department of Justice, be

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mad at the administration. But instead she wants to be

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mad at her own listeners, her own viewers, her own readers.

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There is no penalty for wild speculation, no reputational cost

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to being wrong. The crazier the allegation, the more your

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audience trusts you because in a world where every institution

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has lied to you, the person saying the most unbelievable

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thing must be the one telling the truth. Everyone on

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all sides knows this, and everyone on all sides is

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cashing in. It doesn't matter what team jersey you're wearing,

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the Epstein Files or content event of the year, and

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no one is leaving money on the table except me apparently.

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So this is exactly what I was saying. Seems to me,

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she's upset because she doesn't know the real story, so

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she's forced to play catch up, and this is not

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the story to do it. So instead of really giving

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it a good hard look and looking at the actual evidence,

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she's decided that she's going to full on the most

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salacious part of it and trying to mean everybody who's interested,

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and frankly, I think it's sour grapes. And if you notice,

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a lot of the people who are talking trash about

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this story about what's going on here were the people

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that rose to prominence with COVID, But now they're not

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the main character anymore. And it's a big deal. Oh

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we're what do you mean, We're not part of this story.

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We didn't break it no, you didn't. In fact, you

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don't even know what you're talking about. It would be

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depressing where it's solely a content game, but it's not.

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Real people are getting caught in the insanity. Not a

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word about the survivors, not a word about the girls

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who were abused, not a word about the rest of

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us who are getting fucked by these people. But real

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people are getting caught up in the insanity. When Representatives

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Row Conna and Thomas Massey, a Democrat and a Republican

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united in bipartisan recklessness, started naming names and amplifying allegations

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from the fire, they weren't performing some brave act of transparency.

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They were directing a mob at specific human beings, like

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you did during COVID. I mean, you folks were just

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so pleasant during that. Do they think we've all forgotten?

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I mean, the grift was out of control. Everybody all

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of a sudden was a scientist. Take this, take that,

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Oh this is fake, this is real. Meanwhile, I kept

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my mouth shut, you know why, because I had no

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idea what I was talking about. Kind Of like all

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these people when it comes to Epstein, Some of those

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people turned out to be ordinary citizens with no connection

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to anything criminal. It didn't matter. The names were out.

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The Internet did what the Internet does. People who had

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done nothing wrong became targets because congressmen wanted an engagement,

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and a culture that has replaced due process with virality

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gave him the tools to get it. The Satanic Panic

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destroyed real people too. That's the part everyone forgets. It

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wasn't just a weird cultural moment. Innocent people went to prison,

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children were traumatized by the investigations meant to protect them.

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We tell ourselves we've learned from that, and then we

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do it again with better technology and a bigger audience.

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The question isn't whether Jeffrey Epstein was a monster. He was.

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The question is whether the people who correctly identified pass

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moral panics can resist turning a real crime into everything

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crime for clicks. No one in media paid a price

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for the NonStop, silacious fear mongering of the Satanic Panic.

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They all got richer, like all of you did during COVID,

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I mean, stop it. Could you be any more of

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a hypocrite? Holy shit? Although if you're all the way

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down the Epstein rabbit hole, you probably think it's evidence

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that the widely debunked satanic panic stuff was in fact

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also real. While I disagree with the author about most

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of the things she's saying, what she asked to say

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about some of the more salacious stuff is not completely

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incorrect because it does more harm than good. And there's

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a lot of people out there that are trying to

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capitalize on this and monetize it without the real story.

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So what they're doing is grasping onto the most relacious

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parts and trying to use those for engagement farming. So

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in that regard, she's right, there's a lot of people

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out there that really just don't have any idea what

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they're talking about. And as we can see here in

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the article that goes for journalists as well, all right, folks,

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that's going to do it for this one. All the

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