WEBVTT 1 00:00:09.000 --> 00:00:13.919 He was cold, cold that he was cold? 2 00:00:23.039 --> 00:00:24.120 What's going on up there? 3 00:00:24.199 --> 00:00:26.760 Could be the most important event in history. 4 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:40.359 Now, I haven't become the destroyer of worlds, I said. 5 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:42.119 I hope this is close to him? 6 00:00:42.679 --> 00:00:43.039 Is all? 7 00:00:43.200 --> 00:00:43.719 Never again? 8 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:05.560 M hm. Hello and welcome to the Tales submit Ark Podcast. 9 00:01:05.599 --> 00:01:07.760 I'm your host, Bob. You're with my co host Brittany. 10 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:09.239 Hey, guys, what's up, Brittany? 11 00:01:09.319 --> 00:01:09.920 How's it going? 12 00:01:10.079 --> 00:01:11.200 It's going good? How are you? 13 00:01:11.560 --> 00:01:13.799 It's going good? I have to start this episode off 14 00:01:13.799 --> 00:01:16.680 with a bit of an apology though, because, as we know, 15 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:18.719 it's kind of later in the week for an upload. 16 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:21.439 Yeah do you what tell? Why? 17 00:01:22.000 --> 00:01:23.519 Okay, So, are. 18 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:24.599 You gonna try to flip this on me? 19 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:27.959 No? No, but so I'll just put it out in 20 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.439 the open. I have been completely addicted to the new 21 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:32.879 Final Fantasy seven rebirth it just launched. I'm a massive 22 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:36.280 Final Fantasy seven fan. Anyone who knows me knows that 23 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:39.159 that is my like goat, game of the year, Game 24 00:01:39.200 --> 00:01:42.640 of the century, top three of all time. End of story. 25 00:01:42.680 --> 00:01:45.040 There's I'm not taking any rebuttal. 26 00:01:45.040 --> 00:01:49.120 Every time a new one and like a new whether 27 00:01:49.159 --> 00:01:52.599 it was the first time that a rendition came out 28 00:01:52.799 --> 00:01:55.280 or a Remit came out or this one, like you 29 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:00.719 dive completely back into the Fallout or Fallout the Fallout Fallout. 30 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:02.959 You're gonna put some respect on Final Fantasy's name. 31 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:05.159 You're gonna put some respect on fall Out New Vegas. 32 00:02:05.280 --> 00:02:07.799 Okay. See, one has a good story and the other 33 00:02:07.879 --> 00:02:09.280 is about a disgruntled mailman. 34 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:14.240 So let's let's just know you don't need to over 35 00:02:14.319 --> 00:02:17.039 complicate it, but let's just agree to disagree. 36 00:02:17.120 --> 00:02:20.360 Yeah, everyone has opinions, and you know is wrong, but 37 00:02:20.479 --> 00:02:22.960 it's fine. Okay. So this is a bit of a 38 00:02:23.000 --> 00:02:25.159 weird week because usually I'm the one who finds the 39 00:02:25.199 --> 00:02:27.439 stories and then you help research the stories, and we 40 00:02:27.479 --> 00:02:29.240 kind of, you know, have an amalgamation of melting of 41 00:02:29.280 --> 00:02:31.960 the minds here, but you brought one to me, and 42 00:02:32.000 --> 00:02:33.759 the title alone has to be kind of like, uh, 43 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:35.240 I don't like this. 44 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.199 I don't like any of this. Yeah, you definitely seem 45 00:02:38.240 --> 00:02:41.319 to be more skeptical about this one, which is weird 46 00:02:41.319 --> 00:02:45.280 because like it's classified more as a encryptid, you usually 47 00:02:45.319 --> 00:02:46.919 see more open minded about it. 48 00:02:47.000 --> 00:02:48.719 But it's the name. Tell everyone the name. 49 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:51.879 So what we're gonna be talking about today is the 50 00:02:52.039 --> 00:02:53.599 Dovert Demon. 51 00:02:53.479 --> 00:02:56.319 And everyone knows my thoughts on demons. Demons don't exist. 52 00:02:56.439 --> 00:02:58.639 If you were an asshole in real life, you were 53 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:00.960 an asshole when you're dead. That's just how this works. 54 00:03:01.400 --> 00:03:04.800 Yeah, but this one isn't. You'll see as we get 55 00:03:04.800 --> 00:03:07.879 more into it. This one isn't what you think it's 56 00:03:07.919 --> 00:03:08.400 gonna be. 57 00:03:08.639 --> 00:03:11.199 Okay, because because when you initially said, you know, Dover demon, 58 00:03:11.240 --> 00:03:15.000 I'm like, first off, that's weird, because you pitched it 59 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:17.360 to me as as a cryptid story. I said, well, 60 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:20.479 a demon is a cryptid, but I guess the Jersey 61 00:03:20.560 --> 00:03:23.159 Devil kind of has the same thing. And again we're 62 00:03:23.639 --> 00:03:25.960 treading the waters the Satanic panic a little bit here. 63 00:03:26.199 --> 00:03:29.919 And given the timeframe, I you know, don't I purposely 64 00:03:29.919 --> 00:03:31.759 whenever you bring me a topic, I don't look into 65 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:33.479 it at all. So I'm going into this one hundred 66 00:03:33.479 --> 00:03:36.520 percent blind. I have no idea anything about this story, 67 00:03:36.520 --> 00:03:38.599 with the exception of it's encrypted. And I think you 68 00:03:38.639 --> 00:03:41.439 said it might loosely tie into like the Hompkinsville or 69 00:03:41.520 --> 00:03:43.719 I'm sorry, the Kelly story. Is that right? 70 00:03:44.080 --> 00:03:49.120 Yeah? So actually one of the sketches, which I didn't 71 00:03:49.159 --> 00:03:52.159 realize this until today, one of the sketches for the 72 00:03:52.199 --> 00:03:55.599 Dover Demon is frequently used in Hellire. 73 00:03:56.680 --> 00:03:57.120 Interesting. 74 00:03:57.159 --> 00:04:01.240 Okay, yeah, so I I definitely think there's a connection. 75 00:04:01.319 --> 00:04:03.680 I mean, we know that, like, goblin like creatures are 76 00:04:03.719 --> 00:04:06.960 all over the country, countries are all over the world, 77 00:04:07.039 --> 00:04:10.479 but they're very prominent in North America for sure. 78 00:04:10.599 --> 00:04:13.360 Yeah, no, absolutely, And it is interesting to me these 79 00:04:13.400 --> 00:04:16.600 goblin ask your creatures. They all share some similar characteristics, 80 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:20.439 but there's always something like that separates them. It's similar 81 00:04:20.439 --> 00:04:22.439 to how we have like the million bigfoots, you know, 82 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.279 the Bigfoot of Yettiebominable Snowman, the port They. 83 00:04:25.160 --> 00:04:29.079 All have good they all have individual characteristics that make 84 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:33.360 them slightly different, but the core definitely seems to be 85 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:34.319 the same in a lot of them. 86 00:04:34.480 --> 00:04:37.480 Okay, so we're just take us away to the Dover Demon, 87 00:04:37.560 --> 00:04:39.480 and I apologize. I know I'm going to jump in 88 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:42.439 a lot here, throw in some you know, Catholic church, 89 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:44.720 Gothic church evil. I know that that's going to happen 90 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:47.959 occasionally here, but please take it away. 91 00:04:48.040 --> 00:04:51.959 Okay, So we're going to be starting on April twenty first. 92 00:04:53.120 --> 00:04:55.920 I think I believe it was nineteen seventy seven when 93 00:04:55.920 --> 00:04:56.480 this occurred. 94 00:04:56.759 --> 00:05:02.160 Seventy seven, seventy seven, right around ten years post Offman Mothmania. Yeah, 95 00:05:02.199 --> 00:05:04.079 the Ohio River Valley UFO flap. 96 00:05:04.279 --> 00:05:08.040 Yes. Where it gets kind of similar with the Mothman 97 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:15.839 encounters is that the witnesses were all mostly all teenagers, 98 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:21.759 so they were young, young early adults anywhere between I 99 00:05:21.759 --> 00:05:26.040 think fifteen and twenty one were the ages of the witnesses. Okay, 100 00:05:26.519 --> 00:05:29.839 And it all happened over like two nights, basically technically 101 00:05:29.839 --> 00:05:31.879 one night, but yeah. 102 00:05:32.000 --> 00:05:34.360 Okay, so it's like it came and it went pretty quick. 103 00:05:35.279 --> 00:05:40.360 Yes, So they literally came in, it was spotted for 104 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:43.360 one night by I believe three different groups of people, 105 00:05:44.079 --> 00:05:47.160 and then it just vanished and was never seen again. 106 00:05:48.000 --> 00:05:50.319 And again this is early reminiscent. Not to keep throwing 107 00:05:50.360 --> 00:05:52.759 back to the Ward interview because I know I mentioned 108 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:55.040 it last week as well, but you know, his documentary 109 00:05:55.079 --> 00:05:56.680 that he was producing, I don't think it's out. I 110 00:05:56.720 --> 00:05:58.240 don't know if he even has a release date for 111 00:05:58.279 --> 00:06:00.879 the Skinwalker Ranch documentary that he did with. I think 112 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:03.639 it's Tony Merkle's who he's working with. There is a 113 00:06:03.680 --> 00:06:06.360 lot of things in the Skinwalker Ranch flap as well 114 00:06:06.399 --> 00:06:10.519 that there were, you know, an overwhelming amount of obscure 115 00:06:10.560 --> 00:06:13.639 events happening, and you went to Basin for twenty thirty 116 00:06:13.720 --> 00:06:16.360 forty plus years. But what's always been interesting to me 117 00:06:16.399 --> 00:06:18.279 about Skinwalker Ranch. This is something we kind of touched 118 00:06:18.279 --> 00:06:22.079 about with Ward, is for every like three things that 119 00:06:22.120 --> 00:06:24.000 were continuous over the course of you know, the twenty 120 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:28.480 thirty years, there's these little extremely seemingly random happenings that 121 00:06:28.600 --> 00:06:30.199 kind of pop in and pop out, you know, for 122 00:06:30.240 --> 00:06:32.079 a week, a day, an hour at a time, and 123 00:06:32.120 --> 00:06:35.240 then they're never reported again. Yeah, and I almost wonder 124 00:06:35.319 --> 00:06:38.519 should we as investigators start to look at these and 125 00:06:38.600 --> 00:06:41.000 categorize them a bit different? You know, it's all part 126 00:06:41.000 --> 00:06:42.319 of the you know, if we all want to believe 127 00:06:42.439 --> 00:06:45.000 the unified field theory, the phenomena as a whole is 128 00:06:45.120 --> 00:06:48.439 just interacting in certain ways. But if we're going to 129 00:06:48.439 --> 00:06:50.360 categorize these things, do we need to have these like 130 00:06:50.480 --> 00:06:55.199 instantaneous occurrences versus the long you know, over some long 131 00:06:55.279 --> 00:06:59.399 running Yeah, Like, is there any comparison between the two 132 00:06:59.480 --> 00:07:01.639 and can be fun start similar to United strangeness if 133 00:07:01.680 --> 00:07:04.720 we ever go back and do Kansas or something for example, 134 00:07:05.399 --> 00:07:08.199 is there some kind of a similarity you can find 135 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:10.279 like we're doing with united strangeness, you know, painting the 136 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:13.079 excess back over top of one another. Do the ones 137 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:15.040 that pop up for a day or two also have 138 00:07:15.120 --> 00:07:17.800 any similarities that the longer running ones seem not to. 139 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:20.879 Yeah, I mean, I definitely think that would be a 140 00:07:20.920 --> 00:07:25.839 good way to look and to try and categorize and 141 00:07:25.920 --> 00:07:29.920 differentiate between the short term and long term sightings. 142 00:07:30.279 --> 00:07:30.600 Yeah. 143 00:07:30.720 --> 00:07:36.040 But I think where you kind of get I think 144 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:40.720 where it can get a little hazy is that the 145 00:07:41.480 --> 00:07:46.360 side effects of people experiencing these things are still the same. 146 00:07:46.560 --> 00:07:49.160 Like this can be still be a very scary, traumatic, 147 00:07:49.639 --> 00:07:50.680 okay experience. 148 00:07:50.759 --> 00:07:53.480 Yes, we look at Betty and Barney Hill. The encounter 149 00:07:53.560 --> 00:07:56.399 happened over one night, but they kept this their entire lives. 150 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:59.160 Yeah, so you have to be careful with how much 151 00:07:59.199 --> 00:08:02.079 you try put these things in a box. Yeah, because 152 00:08:02.120 --> 00:08:05.120 there are still real world consequences for these people that 153 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:08.680 experience them. Absolutely, So I do think scientifically, yes, that 154 00:08:08.759 --> 00:08:13.439 could be advantageous, but you have to be careful viewing 155 00:08:13.480 --> 00:08:15.079 it like that through a Lenz like that, if you 156 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:15.560 know what I mean. 157 00:08:15.680 --> 00:08:16.839 Yeah, No, that makes perfect sense. 158 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.240 Okay. So this begins at ten thirty pm on April 159 00:08:20.240 --> 00:08:24.720 twenty first, nineteen seventy seven, when three seventeen year olds 160 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:30.120 Bill Bartlett, Mike Masica, and Andy Brody are driving north 161 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:33.919 on Farm Street. Bartlett, who's behind the wheel of a Volkswagen, 162 00:08:34.000 --> 00:08:37.679 spots something creeping along a low wall of loose stones 163 00:08:38.159 --> 00:08:40.919 on the left side of the road. At first, he 164 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:44.039 thinks it's a dog or a cat, until his headlights 165 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:46.799 shine on it and he realizes it's nothing he's ever 166 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:51.039 seen before. The figure slowly turns its head and stares 167 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:56.960 into the light. It has two large, round, glassy, lidless 168 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:01.080 eyes shining brightly. And this is a quote like two 169 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:02.240 orange marbles. 170 00:09:02.840 --> 00:09:06.399 Okay, so that is eerily similar to some of the 171 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:10.600 reports from the Kelly incident of the glass the glass 172 00:09:10.639 --> 00:09:15.240 looking eyes almost reflective, no discernible eyelids of any sort. 173 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:19.200 Very very interesting. Does it go? Does it? I also 174 00:09:19.200 --> 00:09:21.559 want to point out the like the the rock outcropping 175 00:09:21.639 --> 00:09:25.000 that he had mentioned, because I know recently we made 176 00:09:25.039 --> 00:09:27.679 a mistake where we had covered the same state of 177 00:09:27.759 --> 00:09:31.000 like multiple times on United Strangeness. And there's like a 178 00:09:31.039 --> 00:09:35.240 boulder style monster I think in Colorado that appears in 179 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:39.480 these like rocky outcroppings. So kind of have some yeah, but. 180 00:09:39.360 --> 00:09:42.480 That was a mountain. That's that's That's the weird thing 181 00:09:42.519 --> 00:09:45.759 about that Boulder Monster in Colorado is it's like literally 182 00:09:45.799 --> 00:09:50.480 a personification of landslides that come off a mountain. It's huge. 183 00:09:50.559 --> 00:09:51.399 Yeah, it's like a titan. 184 00:09:51.679 --> 00:09:55.159 Yeah, basically. Okay, But the one thing that I find 185 00:09:55.200 --> 00:09:58.240 interesting about the eyes is the first thing that I 186 00:09:58.240 --> 00:10:01.480 thought of when I heard that is marbles. If you 187 00:10:01.519 --> 00:10:03.679 twist them in light, it almost seems like they have 188 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:06.440 a flat pain in them that reflect like a solid 189 00:10:06.519 --> 00:10:09.360 sheen of light. And the first thing I thought of 190 00:10:09.480 --> 00:10:10.639 is like deer eyes. 191 00:10:11.519 --> 00:10:11.759 Yeah. 192 00:10:11.840 --> 00:10:15.399 Yeah, And we'll see further along in the story. There's 193 00:10:15.440 --> 00:10:20.960 actually different encounters where the first encounter believed it was orange. 194 00:10:21.639 --> 00:10:23.919 The second encounter, the female I think she was like 195 00:10:23.960 --> 00:10:27.240 fifteen years old, she thought that she swore that they 196 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:30.480 were green. They were green eyes. Interesting, and so a 197 00:10:30.519 --> 00:10:32.279 lot of people would look at that and say, hey, 198 00:10:32.600 --> 00:10:35.279 you know, that's inconsistent, like did this thing actually exist? 199 00:10:35.399 --> 00:10:38.639 But depending on the kind of headlights you have at 200 00:10:38.639 --> 00:10:42.480 the angle that your headlights are, that like, it will 201 00:10:42.559 --> 00:10:45.360 change the color of deer eyes that reflect it back 202 00:10:45.399 --> 00:10:48.639 at you if you're looking at like a deer at night. 203 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.720 So the Dover Demon was just a deer that speak. 204 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:56.080 If I see a creature a deer that looks like 205 00:10:56.120 --> 00:11:02.000 the Dover Demon, like it shouldn't exist fair enough, Okay, 206 00:11:02.039 --> 00:11:05.480 according to the physique of this of this creature, and 207 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:08.000 we're about to get in that as well. Okay, So 208 00:11:08.039 --> 00:11:12.879 it has a watermelon shaped head, a watermelone, and it's 209 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:16.679 resting on the top of a thin neck and it's 210 00:11:16.720 --> 00:11:18.919 basically the size of the rest of its body. So 211 00:11:18.960 --> 00:11:21.000 I have no idea how it's holding up that head. 212 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:23.000 Well, it kind of reminds me of the Kirkland melon 213 00:11:23.039 --> 00:11:26.039 heads as well, which, yeah, our friends over at the 214 00:11:26.159 --> 00:11:28.919 Sasquatchers Network, I believe they're currently filming or they might 215 00:11:28.960 --> 00:11:33.000 have just wrapped filming a Kirkland melon head documentary. I 216 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.200 don't know if there's a release date for this yet either. 217 00:11:36.840 --> 00:11:40.200 So, except for it's an oversized head, the creature is thin, 218 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:44.720 with long, spindly arms and legs and large hands and feet. 219 00:11:45.440 --> 00:11:48.120 The skin is hairless and peach colored and appears to 220 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:52.440 have a rough err so like like wet sand papers 221 00:11:52.440 --> 00:11:53.759 what they could compared it to. 222 00:11:54.000 --> 00:11:55.879 Yeah, this kind of just reminds me of like like 223 00:11:55.879 --> 00:11:58.559 your typical gray that you would here described I mean 224 00:11:58.600 --> 00:12:02.840 the large, bulbous heads, and depending on who you research 225 00:12:02.879 --> 00:12:04.840 and read, I mean, there are people who think that 226 00:12:04.840 --> 00:12:07.759 that's where the human race is heading towards right now, 227 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:10.759 Like as we do, we're going to we're going to 228 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:13.159 reach a point of superiority mentally where we no longer 229 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:17.159 need these giant physical bodies. But all we factor in 230 00:12:17.279 --> 00:12:20.200 is just the mental fortitude, mental capacity of the person. 231 00:12:20.600 --> 00:12:24.799 And so through I guess reverse evolution, we're going to 232 00:12:24.799 --> 00:12:26.720 get weaker. I guess it would still be evolution, it's 233 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:28.440 just evolution of a different form. 234 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:32.879 Yeah, But the wet sandpaper, that's a very specific texture 235 00:12:33.240 --> 00:12:36.960 of their skin because everything I've ever read on grays, 236 00:12:37.120 --> 00:12:42.039 which admittedly like it's not like a primary topic of 237 00:12:42.080 --> 00:12:45.879 discussion that I try to dive into, but it's always smooth. 238 00:12:46.559 --> 00:12:49.600 It's never rough, Yeah, smooth, glistening, almost. 239 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:52.720 Almost slimy, like like a slimy looking skin. 240 00:12:52.879 --> 00:12:55.440 Yeah. I've heard them described as what like their skin 241 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:57.320 looks like like a wet snake. 242 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:01.279 Yeah, but even a snake does scales, so it wouldn't 243 00:13:01.320 --> 00:13:05.840 be completely smooth. Like everything I've heard has just been smooth. 244 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:08.279 Yeah. I don't like snakes. Just so if anyone was 245 00:13:08.320 --> 00:13:11.120 wondering my stands on snakes, No. 246 00:13:12.240 --> 00:13:14.440 And that's for sure going to be used against you. 247 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:18.600 Good job Ferbie and a snake. Hey, worst things happen 248 00:13:18.639 --> 00:13:22.519 about ske Ferbika, please continue. Don't give anyone any more 249 00:13:22.600 --> 00:13:25.759 nightmare fuel to send to me. Oh that's a harass 250 00:13:25.799 --> 00:13:30.559 you when bully you. The skin is hairless, though, im 251 00:13:30.559 --> 00:13:34.000 peach colored. That's the other thing. The hue of its skin, 252 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:37.679 I've never heard of peach. That's almost a that's like 253 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:38.639 a human color. 254 00:13:38.960 --> 00:13:45.519 Yeah, well, not in a creature, but injured Cold and Carl, 255 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:49.360 both of them were described as having like movie star 256 00:13:49.440 --> 00:13:52.399 style skin, which I came to understand is more of 257 00:13:52.399 --> 00:13:56.000 a tan all of skin I think are like Greek 258 00:13:56.039 --> 00:13:56.919 Italian skin. 259 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:02.159 Yeah, but that they still looked Yeah, they still looked 260 00:14:02.480 --> 00:14:05.840 more human than humanoid. This thing is just a humanoid 261 00:14:05.919 --> 00:14:07.240 with a giant freaking head. 262 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:09.919 Yeah. It almost reminds me of those fake Rake stories 263 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:12.679 that were making the rounds about a month ago on Reddit. 264 00:14:12.840 --> 00:14:16.840 So but again, this predates the Rake by you know, 265 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:19.080 three decades, four decades. So. 266 00:14:19.440 --> 00:14:22.120 Yeah, this creature stood no more than three and a 267 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:24.679 half to four feet tall and The figure is shaped 268 00:14:24.679 --> 00:14:27.080 like a baby's body, with long arms and legs. 269 00:14:27.320 --> 00:14:29.759 All right, I was out, I'm back in. I'm back in. 270 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.600 I never thought i'd say this. I'm pro demon, pro 271 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:33.200 dover demon. 272 00:14:33.320 --> 00:14:33.960 Oh my god. 273 00:14:34.159 --> 00:14:35.519 Twenty twenty four is a wild year. 274 00:14:36.639 --> 00:14:39.320 It has been making its way along the wall, or 275 00:14:39.360 --> 00:14:41.399 it had been making ants way along the wall, its 276 00:14:41.440 --> 00:14:44.879 long fingers curling around the rocks, when the lights, the 277 00:14:44.919 --> 00:14:49.759 car lights surprised it. Unfortunately, neither a Barlet's companion saw 278 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.039 the creature. The sighting only last a few seconds before 279 00:14:53.360 --> 00:14:57.559 Barlet could speak, and the car leaves the scene. I 280 00:14:57.600 --> 00:15:00.519 really flew after I saw it, Barlet recalls. I took 281 00:15:00.519 --> 00:15:03.279 that corner at forty five, which is pretty fast. I 282 00:15:03.279 --> 00:15:05.399 said to my friends, did you see that? And they said, nah, 283 00:15:05.440 --> 00:15:08.039 describe it. I did, and they said go back, go back, 284 00:15:08.039 --> 00:15:11.159 and I said, no way. When you see something like that, 285 00:15:11.200 --> 00:15:12.759 you don't want to just stand around and see what 286 00:15:12.799 --> 00:15:16.799 it's going to do. Debatable, I mean, okay, but we're freaks, so. 287 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.480 Yeah, no, No, it is interesting, though we have we 288 00:15:19.600 --> 00:15:23.960 have to now look at the human element of the drivers, 289 00:15:23.960 --> 00:15:27.120 saying absolutely hot, not going back, that's that's real fear. 290 00:15:27.600 --> 00:15:29.240 The ones who didn't see it. Again, we had a 291 00:15:29.279 --> 00:15:33.679 bear in mind teenage boys. I don't know if alcohol 292 00:15:33.840 --> 00:15:35.960 is involved, but you know, teens out and party and 293 00:15:36.000 --> 00:15:38.600 having a good time on the weekend, out and back roads. 294 00:15:39.000 --> 00:15:40.639 They're like, well, yeah, I need to see I want 295 00:15:40.639 --> 00:15:42.720 to see this thing. You know, because as as young 296 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:47.240 men do there, our capacity for danger doesn't really exist 297 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.080 the same way it does for you know, our female companions. 298 00:15:50.559 --> 00:15:53.240 And so these two are like, hell, yeah, show this 299 00:15:53.279 --> 00:15:55.480 to me. I have to see this. But it's also 300 00:15:55.559 --> 00:15:57.960 interesting that only the drivers saw it, because you would 301 00:15:57.960 --> 00:15:59.759 think the passenger would be the one that would see 302 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.679 it versus maybe the person in the back seat. 303 00:16:02.799 --> 00:16:06.480 I mean, yeah, but as a driver, especially at night, 304 00:16:06.519 --> 00:16:10.279 I mean we've taken plenty of night trips. I pay 305 00:16:10.279 --> 00:16:14.320 attention to the road more than you do. Hell, even 306 00:16:14.360 --> 00:16:17.159 sometimes I'm in the passenger seat, I pay more attention 307 00:16:17.240 --> 00:16:18.200 to the road than you do. 308 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:18.879 That's fair. 309 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:22.039 So you can't really fall from for not seeing it, 310 00:16:22.120 --> 00:16:25.559 especially if they were talking to each other, you know, gallivating, 311 00:16:26.200 --> 00:16:28.600 joking around. They're not going to really be paying attention 312 00:16:28.679 --> 00:16:30.159 to their surroundings. 313 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:31.840 Yeah, no, I would agree with that, but. 314 00:16:31.879 --> 00:16:35.440 Yeah, they then take this to a very antagonizing turn. 315 00:16:35.559 --> 00:16:39.159 The two companions who did not see this. They finally 316 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:41.000 got me to go back, and Mike was leaning out 317 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:44.240 of the window yelling, come on, creature, and I was saying, 318 00:16:44.279 --> 00:16:47.480 well you cut that out. Andy was yelling I want 319 00:16:47.519 --> 00:16:50.799 to see you, but the creature was gone. Barlet dropped 320 00:16:50.840 --> 00:16:55.600 off his friends and went to Walpole Street home, visibly upset. 321 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:57.440 He walks through the door and his father asked him 322 00:16:57.440 --> 00:17:00.519 what was wrong. Barlett then told him they and then 323 00:17:00.600 --> 00:17:05.200 later sketches what he saw, and then the creature makes 324 00:17:05.279 --> 00:17:08.960 another appearance same night. So this time is around midnight. 325 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:11.759 So the first one was ten twenty two. Okay, this 326 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:14.759 one's around midnight. Okay, so have a couple hour gap, 327 00:17:15.680 --> 00:17:16.640 about an hour and a half. 328 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:17.720 Yeah. 329 00:17:18.200 --> 00:17:21.640 So, fifteen year old John Baxter leaves his girlfriend his 330 00:17:21.640 --> 00:17:25.480 girlfriend's house, Kathy Cronin, on the south end of Miller's 331 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:31.000 High Road. Okay, I'm here for this anyway. Baxter starts 332 00:17:31.039 --> 00:17:34.079 walking up his street on his way home. Half an 333 00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:36.880 hour later, after he walked about a mile, he observed 334 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:41.119 someone approaching him. Because the figure was short, Baxter assumed 335 00:17:41.160 --> 00:17:45.400 it was an acquaintance of his MG Bucherd, who lives 336 00:17:45.640 --> 00:17:46.359 on the street. 337 00:17:46.519 --> 00:17:49.440 Okay, okay, so like a friend, neighbor, what have you? 338 00:17:49.799 --> 00:17:53.240 John calls out, MG is at you. He got no response, 339 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:56.440 but Baxter and the figure continued to approach each other 340 00:17:56.559 --> 00:18:01.799 until finally the latter stops. The figure stopped, Baxter halts 341 00:18:01.960 --> 00:18:05.240 as well and say says who is that? The sky 342 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:07.079 is dark and overcast and he can only see a 343 00:18:07.119 --> 00:18:11.480 shadowy form. Trying to get a better look, Baxter took 344 00:18:11.519 --> 00:18:14.359 one step forward and the figure scurries off to the left, 345 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:18.160 running down a shallow wooded gully and up the opposite bank. 346 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.240 As the figure runs, Baxter hears its footsteps on dry leaves. 347 00:18:23.640 --> 00:18:26.279 He follows the figure down the slope. Okay, that is 348 00:18:26.319 --> 00:18:29.680 a it is nighttime, I get it, seventy seven, but sir, 349 00:18:29.839 --> 00:18:31.920 it is nighttime. You are a child. 350 00:18:32.759 --> 00:18:36.400 Yeah, but again, children don't have the same reservations about 351 00:18:36.480 --> 00:18:37.160 danger as. 352 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.880 Adults do, and especially in that time period. 353 00:18:40.000 --> 00:18:41.759 Yeah, and at this point, he still think this is 354 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:43.880 a neighbor or a friend of his, and he wants 355 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.480 to make sure they're okay. It is interesting too, I 356 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:49.000 get he said it was overcast, you know, but still 357 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:50.640 it passed as a human being. 358 00:18:52.000 --> 00:18:54.519 Yeah, with how oblong it's freakin' head is. You would 359 00:18:54.559 --> 00:18:58.799 think you would think even through shadowy like presence, you 360 00:18:59.200 --> 00:19:01.559 would be able to know that it has a watermelon. 361 00:19:01.640 --> 00:19:03.640 And if you have a head like a bowling ball, 362 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.759 I can see you in like silent hill level fog 363 00:19:06.359 --> 00:19:11.240 like definitively so. But again, but we have you know 364 00:19:11.480 --> 00:19:13.759 at this point this witness does not see glowing eyes, 365 00:19:15.559 --> 00:19:18.559 so the eyes itself don't glow. We can go back 366 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:22.319 to a reflection or refraction of light bending around the 367 00:19:22.319 --> 00:19:23.240 iris of the eye. 368 00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:27.559 Yeah. He follows the figure down the slope and then 369 00:19:27.599 --> 00:19:30.759 stops and looks across the gully. There he sees a 370 00:19:30.799 --> 00:19:34.079 creature standing in a silhouette about thirty feet away, its 371 00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:37.480 feet molded around the top of a rock several feet 372 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:40.480 from a tree. So I'm assuming like it looks. 373 00:19:40.279 --> 00:19:43.160 Like like the toes are curling around the rock. 374 00:19:43.319 --> 00:19:46.039 Yeah, so instead of being flat footed, which would be 375 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.799 normal with a slight curve, its feet just completely like 376 00:19:49.920 --> 00:19:51.000 embrace the rock. 377 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:52.839 Back to the bowling ball. We have hands like you 378 00:19:52.960 --> 00:19:54.079 put your hand in a bowling ball. 379 00:19:54.480 --> 00:19:56.160 Well, I think more like a monkey. 380 00:19:57.200 --> 00:19:58.079 I like the bowling ball. 381 00:19:58.160 --> 00:20:01.920 But yes, okay, well it's not hanging on the rock 382 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:02.519 by its tail. 383 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:05.599 Okay, but a monkey has hands for feet. 384 00:20:05.640 --> 00:20:08.079 Basically, you've never seen one ever. 385 00:20:08.359 --> 00:20:10.799 I actually, why are you gaslighting me? 386 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.000 Okay, please continue. We're not gonna get into this right now. 387 00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:16.279 The horses in North carolina'll over. 388 00:20:16.440 --> 00:20:18.880 Have monkeys here, so please continue. 389 00:20:20.119 --> 00:20:24.799 Okay. So the creature's body reminds reminded Baxters of a 390 00:20:24.880 --> 00:20:26.839 monkey's see see. 391 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:28.480 Okay, you read this beforehand. 392 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:30.079 These are okay, well I didn't actually read that. 393 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:33.200 These are not original thoughts, but please continue. 394 00:20:34.119 --> 00:20:38.000 Except for the dark figure eight shaped head, figure eight 395 00:20:38.119 --> 00:20:41.920 shaped head. Instead of a watermelon, they're saying, it's an 396 00:20:41.920 --> 00:20:44.759 oblong shape with a slight curve around like the jaw. 397 00:20:44.960 --> 00:20:48.279 Someone kicked this thing in the fucking head and it's 398 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:52.640 heav real soft roundhouse Kike, No, no, no, no no. 399 00:20:52.680 --> 00:20:55.359 They said it was like a baby, something about a 400 00:20:55.359 --> 00:20:57.640 baby babies head have sauce spots. 401 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:01.720