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She is a reporter over at 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,719 the North State Journal and you can read her substacked newsletter. 12 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,280 Get it delivered right to your inbox. It's called More 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:43,920 to the Story. Hello, Ap, how you doing. I'm doing 14 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,960 all right? You're doing all right? Doing? 15 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:46,359 Speaker 2: Okay? 16 00:00:46,399 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: All right? Good? So did you go to any of 17 00:00:50,359 --> 00:00:54,560 the any of the no Kings protests or anything? Did 18 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,119 you spend your saturday out there in the heat looking 19 00:00:57,159 --> 00:01:01,840 at very elderly liberals complaining that they lost an election. 20 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 2: No, I did that. I actually spent most of the 21 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,840 weekends doing chores with my kids in advanced graduation coming up. 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:11,239 Speaker 1: Oh, congratulations. 23 00:01:11,879 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: Watching the parade on Sunday. 24 00:01:13,719 --> 00:01:17,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but you did manage to do some work 25 00:01:18,079 --> 00:01:21,799 over the weekend, apparently work that I now. I just 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:26,599 got a messaged from Teresa Opeka from Carolina Journal about 27 00:01:26,599 --> 00:01:29,439 the w r L and the News and Observer now 28 00:01:29,519 --> 00:01:34,079 finally have covered the story that you covered yesterday about 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,560 Representative Julie van Haefen. Is that how she pronounces is 30 00:01:38,599 --> 00:01:43,120 it hafen? Is it heyphen? It's very German sounding? Yeah, 31 00:01:44,439 --> 00:01:47,480 for no reason I point that out. So, yeah, so 32 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,640 I detailed a little bit of this what happened at 33 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:57,439 this protest in Wait. She took some pictures at the protest, 34 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,079 she edited them together in to a reels video and 35 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:05,920 then put it up onto Instagram. And there was one 36 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,800 particular photo, and I'm trying to describe this for people 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,039 who may not have seen it. It's a picture of 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,520 a woman in a ball cap and she's got like 39 00:02:15,719 --> 00:02:18,639 it looks like a fabric banner kind of a sign. 40 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:20,759 So it's got like a long pole and then it's 41 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,879 got the banner hanging down in the middle of it. 42 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,719 The banner has a like a sketch of a guillotine. 43 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,039 Now I can't make out, what do you know, what's 44 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,000 at the bottom of the base of the guillotine. Are 45 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,840 those dead bodies under or heads that are down there? 46 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,479 I can't really make it out. 47 00:02:36,759 --> 00:02:39,199 Speaker 2: Yes, she's holding that flag in the middle, and on 48 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,520 either side of the pole are hanging heads, heads wearing 49 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,080 they look like wigs, you know, like someone in Parliament 50 00:02:48,159 --> 00:02:51,080 might wear. Right, But what is definitely President Trump? And 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,879 the other one could be possibly Stephen Miller, or it 52 00:02:53,919 --> 00:02:58,080 could be Elon Musk, but it looks more like Stephen Miller. 53 00:02:58,159 --> 00:03:01,800 And that one has a swastika. 54 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: Right, But that's why I thought maybe that's Elon Musk 55 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:06,479 because he did the the Corey Booker salute that everybody 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,479 said was Hyle Hitler, right, So it could be yeah, but. 57 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: It looks more like Stephen Miller, but it could be 58 00:03:12,879 --> 00:03:15,840 Elon Musk. It's hard to tell. Not there was no 59 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,599 caption with it. But yeah, this woman's holding this poll 60 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:22,080 with these these two heads hanging from either side. Obviously 61 00:03:22,599 --> 00:03:24,759 you know, meant to look be beheaded. Considering there's a 62 00:03:24,759 --> 00:03:27,159 guillotine in the middle of the picture, right, and it 63 00:03:27,319 --> 00:03:31,120 is in these difficult times there we must make cuts. 64 00:03:31,599 --> 00:03:33,599 And you can't really read the bottom of the banner 65 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:39,120 but the idea is that our president should be beheaded. 66 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's pretty clear. I mean it's like 67 00:03:43,159 --> 00:03:48,080 it's a pretty linear logical conclusion. Right, you have the guillotine. 68 00:03:48,319 --> 00:03:51,560 It says, in these difficult times, more cuts may be necessary. 69 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:55,159 And then you have two heads. And I'm trying to 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,439 like what like mannequin heads or like are these like 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:01,960 paper mache? Which really Now, like I started like going 72 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,680 down this rabbit hole just thinking through like how does 73 00:04:04,759 --> 00:04:09,199 one procure these heads? Like what like did she make them? 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,039 In which case, like the one of Trump is pretty 75 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:17,399 I mean it's pretty identifiable. Yeah, and that means if 76 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:21,879 she made it, she must have spent hours, right, hours, 77 00:04:21,959 --> 00:04:25,800 just staring at a photo of Donald Trump while working 78 00:04:25,959 --> 00:04:31,399 on Trump's face, and like that level of obsession is 79 00:04:31,759 --> 00:04:32,879 just bizarre to me. 80 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: Well, I mean there could be masks that are have 81 00:04:36,079 --> 00:04:39,800 been you know, stuffed so puppy looking. That's that was 82 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,000 my initial reaction was, you know, maybe she hit party 83 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,399 city or something. I don't know, but you know, the reaction, 84 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:50,639 you know, was was pretty swift from Republican Republicans who spotted. 85 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: It, and. 86 00:04:54,319 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 2: We tried to reach van Han through various outlets mediums 87 00:04:59,399 --> 00:05:02,959 that she has, and none of them were accepting messages 88 00:05:04,079 --> 00:05:08,519 it appeared, But around three pm yesterday afternoon, she did 89 00:05:08,519 --> 00:05:12,800 put a statement on her official Facebook page which addressed 90 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,000 the deletion of the image out. She went back and 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,639 edited her little Real video and took that image out. 92 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:20,560 She said that the deletion of the image was because 93 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:23,480 it was inappropriate, but you know, the thing stayed up 94 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:25,399 for a whole day, so I mean clearly she thought 95 00:05:25,399 --> 00:05:26,519 it was a good idea to put it in there 96 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,920 in the first place, and so she wrote, yesterday I 97 00:05:30,959 --> 00:05:33,879 posted a video on social media containing crowd photos from 98 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,720 the Note King's protests in Raleigh. One of the images 99 00:05:36,759 --> 00:05:39,879 of the protester holding a sign was inappropriate, and I 100 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,680 let her edited the video to remove the photo. And 101 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,600 then she goes on to say, let me be clear, 102 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,399 I could them all political violence and all forms, but 103 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,920 yet she had that in her video right, and her 104 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,959 focus is on bringing people together, YadA, YadA, YadA. Like 105 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,240 so many, I was horrified by the violence of Minnesota. 106 00:05:56,319 --> 00:06:00,639 So she brings up the Minnesota assassinations of or at 107 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,920 least one assassination, one attempted assassination, which is just horrifying. 108 00:06:05,319 --> 00:06:09,240 So she brings that into play, and then later that 109 00:06:09,519 --> 00:06:13,879 yesterday evening, the House Speaker weighed in on it and 110 00:06:13,959 --> 00:06:17,680 issued a statement on acts as well as a press release, 111 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:21,279 and that statement says that on the same weekend that 112 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,199 a gunman in Minnesota targeted day lotmakers and an act 113 00:06:24,240 --> 00:06:28,040 of political violence, and after two attempted assassinations of President 114 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,519 Trump within the past year, Representative von Hagen d Wake 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:34,839 shared an image of a protest sign that glorifies violence 116 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:39,279 against her political opponents, including President Donald Trump. Her disgraceful 117 00:06:39,319 --> 00:06:42,759 behavior fails to meet the standard standards expected from House 118 00:06:42,759 --> 00:06:45,959 members and sets a dangerous president in an already volatile 119 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,839 political climate. And then he goes on to say, I'm 120 00:06:48,879 --> 00:06:52,120 examining next steps with our legislative attorneys to ensure this 121 00:06:52,199 --> 00:06:55,680 behavior does not continue. She's already in hot water for 122 00:06:55,759 --> 00:07:02,319 actually using the press room to allow of a quasi 123 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:04,959 religious group to come in and to scream and rail 124 00:07:04,959 --> 00:07:13,360 about Craig, Crisis pregnancy centers, and abortion. And she she 125 00:07:13,439 --> 00:07:16,160 allowed them to basically use the room and didn't participate 126 00:07:16,199 --> 00:07:19,160 in the event, and that's a violation of the House 127 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:21,439 press room rules. So that there she was already being 128 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,680 you know, looked at for that, and I know that 129 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,839 Speaker Hall's office was involved in that and they were 130 00:07:25,879 --> 00:07:28,160 talking to Minority Leader Reeves about it. 131 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,519 Speaker 1: So I've not seen anything from the Democrat Party. I've 132 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:38,240 not seen Hasanders and Clayton breezed into UH to offer 133 00:07:38,279 --> 00:07:39,279 any statements. 134 00:07:40,279 --> 00:07:42,519 Speaker 2: Nope, I've I've reached out to them and asked for 135 00:07:42,639 --> 00:07:45,519 a comment from Chair Clayton. I'm waiting for that to 136 00:07:45,519 --> 00:07:47,240 come back in and we'll update our story when that 137 00:07:47,279 --> 00:07:49,319 does happen. But I did get a comment from the 138 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:54,920 North Carolina Democratic Party caucus. They basically responded to my 139 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,839 requests for comment by providing von Haysten's written statement, which 140 00:07:57,879 --> 00:08:00,199 I already had. So I prompted them back and as 141 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:03,199 specifically from one from them, and the reply that I 142 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,680 received was, we have no further comment on the matter. 143 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:08,759 Speaker 1: Right, Well, yeah, because why would they. It's it was 144 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:13,079 just a temporary mistake, lapse in judgment, move on, there's 145 00:08:13,079 --> 00:08:14,759 nothing to see here. She already took it down, she 146 00:08:14,839 --> 00:08:18,480 deleted her entire Twitter profile. I'm sure she's probably over 147 00:08:18,519 --> 00:08:22,199 on Blue Sky. But this is the thing. When she 148 00:08:22,199 --> 00:08:26,000 says I condemned political violence in all forms, but she doesn't. 149 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,560 And the fact that you didn't, she didn't even recognize 150 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:34,879 this photo for what that is, indicates that she has 151 00:08:34,919 --> 00:08:38,320 a blind spot for what is and is not political violence. 152 00:08:38,519 --> 00:08:40,759 It was only after and look, I mean it got 153 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:43,600 a lot of attention from you know, North Carolina lawmakers 154 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:48,159 and Republicans and Twitter users, you know, on the ncpol hashtag. 155 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,200 But what really blew her up was libs of TikTok 156 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,840 found it and that I am sure did not that 157 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:57,240 did not do any favors to her inbooy. 158 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: Just the faster dude Senator Mike Lee of Utah Ada 159 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,519 and them that and't called it disgusting and important. Yeah, well, 160 00:09:03,919 --> 00:09:05,399 you know, because they had a shooting at the Salt 161 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,440 Lake City Milk Kings a person was killed. 162 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: Right, And June fourteenth, I just covered this in the 163 00:09:12,759 --> 00:09:16,919 last hour, But June fourteenth, twenty seventeen, that was the 164 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,159 day that the Bernie bro tried to assassinate a whole 165 00:09:21,159 --> 00:09:24,639 bunch of Republican Congress members Like this is we've been 166 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:27,279 talking about this and I don't know if you also 167 00:09:27,799 --> 00:09:31,720 read some of Thomas Mills with Politics NC and he's 168 00:09:31,759 --> 00:09:34,559 of course, you know, saying it's only one side is 169 00:09:34,639 --> 00:09:38,240 responsible for the political violence, and it's the Republican's fault, 170 00:09:38,279 --> 00:09:41,559 and then he goes on to excuse away you know, 171 00:09:41,759 --> 00:09:44,519 all of these other examples. Oh, there were reasons for 172 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:47,200 the riots in twenty twenty, there were you know, Democrats 173 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,639 weren't celebrating Luigi MANGIONI like the hell they weren't. I mean, 174 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:54,559 I just go onto any social media platform in the 175 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:57,120 wake of that murder and people were like celebrating it. 176 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,519 Taylor Lawrens was like, Oh, I ended stand why he 177 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,480 did it. He's so sexy like that kind of stuff. 178 00:10:03,759 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, but that's girls. 179 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, So, Like, I don't know where this goes. 180 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,159 I don't know if he can actually destined Hall the 181 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:15,120 Speaker can actually do anything. I mean because what like 182 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,120 censure remover her from some committees or something. But yeah, 183 00:10:19,159 --> 00:10:21,799 I don't. I don't know if there's any I don't 184 00:10:21,799 --> 00:10:26,080 really know if there's any pathway to punishment and what that. 185 00:10:26,399 --> 00:10:30,519 Speaker 2: End of the Council, the General Council for the Legislature 186 00:10:30,519 --> 00:10:32,279 about it. So we'll see what they have to say. 187 00:10:33,279 --> 00:10:35,759 You know, I don't I haven't dug into the state 188 00:10:35,799 --> 00:10:39,440 statutes and regarding whether or not a member can be 189 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,200 expelled for behavior like that or not. But yeah, you know, 190 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,000 I would say that pretty much everything is on the 191 00:10:45,039 --> 00:10:47,480 table at this point, especially since she's already been sort 192 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:50,360 of flying a little bit fast and loose with general 193 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,799 Assembly rules when it came to the press room. 194 00:10:53,039 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I know you'll follow it, and I don't 195 00:10:57,279 --> 00:11:00,639 think I think there's yeah, I think there's this story 196 00:11:00,639 --> 00:11:03,120 has got legs. Let's say that this story has some legs, 197 00:11:03,159 --> 00:11:06,279 so we shall see. AP always appreciate the time, AP Dylan. 198 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360 You could read this article. It's at North State Journal 199 00:11:08,919 --> 00:11:13,320 nsjonline dot com. 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Your 222 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,440 subscription then not only helps my podcast, but it also 223 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:20,679 supports ground News as they make the media landscape more transparent. Yeah, 224 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,679 so Representative Julie von Haythen she now has a story 225 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,440 about her up at the News and Observer. I don't 226 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,480 know what time this thing posted. I'm looking, oh, one 227 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,759 thirty seven pm today, So during my show they post. 228 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:38,399 I'm not saying I made them do this. I'm just 229 00:12:38,440 --> 00:12:42,480 saying they coincidentally finally got around to covering this story 230 00:12:42,519 --> 00:12:45,759 from two days ago today during my show after I 231 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:50,879 mentioned it. WRAL has their story now too. Oh look 232 00:12:50,879 --> 00:12:53,159 at that. They put their story up at one thirty two. 233 00:12:53,759 --> 00:12:58,600 Wait a minute, one thirty two and one thirty seven. 234 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:03,279 What are the odds of that happening? That's pretty amazing. 235 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,679 Within five minutes of each other, they have they finally 236 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:10,519 got around to doing the story that's like forty eight 237 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:18,000 hours old. I do appreciate the headline at the News 238 00:13:18,039 --> 00:13:21,519 and Observer more so than the WRAL one News and 239 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Observer's headline is NC House Democrat deletes x account after 240 00:13:27,159 --> 00:13:34,080 post with inappropriate protest image. That's a fair headline, I 241 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:40,159 would say. Wil NCGP calls on democrat to resign for 242 00:13:40,279 --> 00:13:46,960 social media post depicting severed Trump head. So this is 243 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,320 one of the rules in journalisming. When the scandal is 244 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:53,919 about a Democrat, the story is about the reaction the 245 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,440 Republican's reaction to the scandal, and so that's that's journalism 246 00:13:59,519 --> 00:14:04,159 ing rule number two. When a scandal is about a Republican, 247 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,600 then it's that's the story. The story is the scandal. 248 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:11,840 So let's see what wi This is by Paul spect 249 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:15,759 and Carly Haynes. So two people it took to write 250 00:14:15,799 --> 00:14:20,000 this story that's forty eight hours old. The North Carolina 251 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:27,120 Republican Party calling for von Hafen to resign over this photo. 252 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,559 That she posted. Jason Simmons, the chairman of the State GOP, 253 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:35,600 issued a statement Monday, calling on state Representative Julie von 254 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:42,759 Hafen to resign. Here it is the posts Representative von 255 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,440 Hayfen shared do not show the judgment or temperament of 256 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,679 someone to hold public office for the good of her 257 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:52,600 constituents to have effective representation, she should resign. Okay, she's 258 00:14:52,639 --> 00:14:57,759 not going to resign. I talked about this last week. Also, right, 259 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:03,879 the incentiveives are there for Democrats to continue behaving the 260 00:15:03,919 --> 00:15:07,960 way they are behaving, whether it's getting themselves arrested, like 261 00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:11,600 Alex Padilla, which like, gotta feel bad for that guy, 262 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:16,799 Senator Padilla or Padilla from California. You gotta feel bad 263 00:15:16,799 --> 00:15:20,279 for him. I mean, first off, nobody recognized him when 264 00:15:20,279 --> 00:15:23,159 he walked into that room, right, nobody recognized him. He's 265 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:27,519 the Senator from California. Nobody recognized him. Number one. Number two. 266 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:33,519 That stunt was supposed to drive the weekend news cycle. 267 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:39,279 But within like an hour or two of when it happened, 268 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,120 Israel started bombing Iran and it just completely took his 269 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,840 story off the front page. So you gotta feel bad. 270 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:50,879 You go through all of the planning, you know, go 271 00:15:50,919 --> 00:15:54,159 to all that trouble, get yourself manhandled by law enforcement. 272 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,360 But their incentive is to keep doing this because the 273 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,120 polling that we also covered here like two weeks ago, 274 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:09,039 the polling among Democrat voters that seventy percent of them 275 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,960 have an unfavorable view of their own party. And why 276 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:18,159 it's not that they've gone too far left, No, it's 277 00:16:18,559 --> 00:16:24,360 they're not fighting Trump hard enough. They want more rather 278 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:28,159 than right, like, rather than try to figure out a 279 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:31,279 way to get some stuff done, that's you know, maybe 280 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:35,399 make some bills better or whatever. Because Trump's only got 281 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,120 three years, He's gonna be lame duck soon, right, So 282 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,559 I mean, I don't know what a lame duck Trump 283 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:44,120 is going to look like, actually, because like I don't 284 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,440 see him stopping or slowing down anytime soon. So I 285 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,919 don't know. But like this idea that that you have 286 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,240 to fight him harder, you got to fight him harder, 287 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:58,480 and so you're constantly pushing your electeds to to ramp 288 00:16:58,679 --> 00:17:02,360 up the belligerents. And then you get Thomas Mills over 289 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,680 there like, oh, we don't go after power like the 290 00:17:04,799 --> 00:17:09,559 right does, and that's just a lie. And what It 291 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,480 is even more offensive and degregious by the fact that 292 00:17:12,519 --> 00:17:15,920 the guy that you want to fight harder survive two 293 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:21,519 assassination attempts within the last year. This isn't even ancient history, 294 00:17:22,039 --> 00:17:26,079 like the Bernie bro who attempted to assassinate a dozen 295 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:31,599 Republican lawmakers. That's only eight years, all right. So spring 296 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:36,240 is here a time of renewal and celebrations. You've got graduations, weddings, 297 00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:39,279 anniversaries and the special days for mom and dad. Your 298 00:17:39,279 --> 00:17:41,599 family's making memories that are going to last a lifetime. 299 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:44,400 But let me ask you, are all of those treasured 300 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,119 moments from days gone by? 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Creative video preserving family 311 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,359 memories since nineteen ninety seven. Located in mint Hill, just 312 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,519 off four eighty five. Mail orders are accepted to get 313 00:18:30,559 --> 00:18:34,880 all the details that create a video dot com. US 314 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:39,960 Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut took to the Twitter machine 315 00:18:40,599 --> 00:18:43,359 and posted what we used to call back in the 316 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,039 day a tweet storm. I don't know what they call 317 00:18:47,079 --> 00:18:49,480 it now. I think it's just a post storm. But 318 00:18:49,559 --> 00:18:52,759 that makes it sound like the storm is passed, and 319 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:59,400 so now it's poststorm. A thread but that's that's Facebook's thing. Threads. 320 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:05,599 Whatever happened to threads? Is that still around anyway? This 321 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:09,200 is what he says. The Minnesota assassin appears to be 322 00:19:09,279 --> 00:19:13,119 a hate filled right winger. So can we stop walking 323 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:20,799 on eggshells about maga's legitimization of political violence? So okay, 324 00:19:20,799 --> 00:19:26,240 first off, who has done that? Who is legitimizing violence 325 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:32,759 in the MAGA movement? When has that happened? Like seriously, 326 00:19:33,039 --> 00:19:36,039 I'm wondering because I'm not aware of anybody in the 327 00:19:36,039 --> 00:19:40,799 MAGA world saying we need to go and commit acts 328 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:47,680 of violence against democrats. Not aware of that. He says, yes, 329 00:19:47,759 --> 00:19:52,319 Republicans have also been the target of inexcusable violence. But 330 00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:54,680 you knew there was a butt coming, right. You could 331 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,920 smell that butt coming a mile away. That did not 332 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:04,160 sound right. Okay, but this isn't a both sides issue, right, 333 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:07,440 So there you go. This is the same argument that 334 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:12,440 Thomas Mills wrote about on his blog. This isn't both sides. 335 00:20:12,559 --> 00:20:15,720 You're worse. We don't do it at all. You're worse. 336 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:21,599 So he then proceeds to say, for the last five years, 337 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:28,720 MAGA has been bathed in political violence. Why five years? Oh, 338 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,519 j sex, He's gonna this is all about January sixth, Right, 339 00:20:34,519 --> 00:20:39,079 you don't go back to the beginning of the mega movement, Right, 340 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,119 that would be eight years ago. No, wouldn't it be 341 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,720 from when he came down the most famous escalator, Right, 342 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:54,720 most importantly, maga's celebration of j six I know a 343 00:20:54,759 --> 00:20:57,720 lot of MAGA people. I don't think I've ever heard 344 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:02,759 any of them celebrate January sixth. Not aware of any 345 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:09,279 celebration of January sixth, and Trump's decision to pardon all 346 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:13,240 the January sixth rioters, including the most violent. Yeah, actually 347 00:21:13,279 --> 00:21:15,160 a lot of people said he shouldn't have done that. 348 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,559 There are a lot of people Republicans, maga people me. 349 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,599 We said he should not have pardoned the ones that 350 00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:27,440 committed the violence. But the people that just like had 351 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,200 the doors held open for them by Capitol police and 352 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,279 they walked through like they were on a tour and 353 00:21:32,279 --> 00:21:36,039 then left the building. Yeah, they shouldn't have been sentenced 354 00:21:36,039 --> 00:21:39,359 to prison. They shouldn't have been locked in solitary confinement 355 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:44,359 for a year before trial like stuff like that. Right, 356 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:49,559 the J six people are the only incarcerated human beings 357 00:21:49,799 --> 00:21:54,200 that Democrats think should be incarcerated like that. This is 358 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:58,359 the only group of people, he says. This became a 359 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:01,920 clear endorsement of violence. It in his name. It wasn't. 360 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,319 But it didn't start with January sixth. Trump regularly threatened 361 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:11,160 protesters at his rallies with violence. So wait a minute. 362 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,599 That is from eight years ago. That was when Trump 363 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,559 was like, oh, they're gonna rough you up on the 364 00:22:15,559 --> 00:22:17,839 way out or whatever, like when the cops were dragging 365 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,799 out the protesters that would you know, infiltrate his rallies. 366 00:22:23,519 --> 00:22:27,200 He cozied up to brutal dictators abroad who used violence 367 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:30,720 to maintain political control. Okay, now you're grasping like this 368 00:22:30,759 --> 00:22:35,640 is ridiculous. He's cozied up to dictators. Wait, do you 369 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,839 hear what Barack Obama did with Iran? He gave them 370 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:43,960 a bunch of money. It's crazy. Who's their money, Pete, 371 00:22:44,599 --> 00:22:50,000 there was no comparison in democratic messaging. Really, okay? He says, 372 00:22:50,039 --> 00:22:54,519 we cannot discount the impact of maga's fetishization of guns. 373 00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,079 MAGA celebrates the tools of mass shooters and assassins, assault rifle, 374 00:23:00,319 --> 00:23:05,119 machine guns, silencers, and high capacity magazines. MAGA doesn't treat 375 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:11,119 firearms with respect. It celebrates their killing power. This guy 376 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,839 does not know anything like this is. You do not 377 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:18,039 know anything about MAGA voters. You really don't like this is. 378 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,079 You might as well just say basket of deplorables and 379 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,799 save yourself some time, because that's all you're doing here. 380 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:29,279 Trump sends other clear signals supporting political violence. He said 381 00:23:29,279 --> 00:23:32,920 he might pardon those that plotted the kidnapping of Governor Whitmer. Right, 382 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,720 do you know why? Because it was an FBI trap. 383 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,200 They're like, there was like what four or five guys, 384 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,720 and like three of them were FBI. I think, I mean, 385 00:23:41,799 --> 00:23:45,720 like there are problems with that investigation. I've not done 386 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,519 the deep dive on that, but I am aware that 387 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:52,039 there is that there were problems that were that were 388 00:23:52,079 --> 00:23:58,119 brought out at trial with those prosecutions. He threatened peaceful 389 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:02,640 protesters of his military parade with assault. Again, Democrats don't 390 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,440 say these things, not both sides. Democrats do say these things. 391 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:11,680 Punch a Nazi. He has a punchable face with the 392 00:24:11,759 --> 00:24:18,720 kid uh Nicholas Sandmon, Like just the blind spot this 393 00:24:18,799 --> 00:24:22,480 guy has for his own side that engages in this 394 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,839 kind of rhetoric, and we've just seen non stop examples 395 00:24:25,839 --> 00:24:29,079 of it for years. Again, J six did not happen 396 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:34,319 in a vacuum, right. It happened after a year of 397 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:38,519 violent rioting and lockdowns. Tell me more about the No 398 00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:46,720 Kings people who advocated all businesses to be closed, people 399 00:24:46,759 --> 00:24:51,200 in nursing homes to die alone, can't have a funeral, 400 00:24:51,319 --> 00:24:55,920 can't attend religious services. Tell me more, No Kings. The 401 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,759 deployment of the National Guard of Marines to Los Angeles 402 00:24:58,839 --> 00:25:03,119 was the next escalator. No, the escalation occurred by the 403 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,839 violent protesters, the people that are being funded by your 404 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,559 left wing donors, he says, Trump sent the military into 405 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,000 La to inflame and create the conditions for more violence. 406 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,319 There's an assumption of motive. 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Reading this tweet storm from US 434 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:04,559 Senator Chris Murphy from Connecticut, he's just blaming Trump for 435 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,680 all of the violence when MAGA uses violence against its 436 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,240 political opponents and endorses private acts of violence that again, 437 00:27:12,279 --> 00:27:16,319 this hasn't happened when committed in service of MAGA. Unhinged 438 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,000 people listen, mostly on the right, but also on the left. 439 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,960 Once violence gets mainstreamed, it's hard to put it back 440 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,519 in the bottle. Yes, that's what I have been saying. 441 00:27:24,559 --> 00:27:27,240 People on the right have been saying about you, guys, 442 00:27:27,759 --> 00:27:33,240 for a decade now. It's true the violence is sometimes 443 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:37,119 trained on Republicans, including Trump. Yesterday, in fact, was the 444 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:40,480 anniversary of the Congressional baseball shooting. Well at least he 445 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:43,559 mentioned that. And yes, there have been some on the 446 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,480 left who have been too cavalier about violence, and they 447 00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:50,519 should be condemned too, But there's no comparison anywhere on 448 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:55,839 the left with maga's regular legitimization of violence in our politics. 449 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,640 There is a straight line from January sixth to the 450 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:04,640 parts to the assault on Senator Padilla to Minnesota. It's 451 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,000 actually not even a straight line. I mean, maybe if 452 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:09,759 you're like Charlie Day up against the bulletin board charting 453 00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:12,960 out all of the conspiracy or whatever, that's not a 454 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,240 straight line. Is there a straight line to Luigi Mangioni, 455 00:28:17,799 --> 00:28:23,039 the murderer of the two Israeli embassy employees, The attack 456 00:28:23,079 --> 00:28:29,160 on elderly Jews in Colorado? The congressional ballfield assassination attempt, 457 00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:34,119 to Trump's assassination attempt, to Trump's second assassination attempt, all 458 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:35,880 of them? Are those straight lines? 459 00:28:36,279 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: No? 460 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:42,559 Speaker 1: No, no, those can't be straight lines yet when and 461 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,200 one last point on this before I play this clip 462 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,400 Orrin McIntyre, host and columnist at The Blaze. He says 463 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,400 leftists will shoot the president in the face, riot endlessly, 464 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,839 and jail their political enemies while projecting a demented notion 465 00:29:00,279 --> 00:29:08,559 of victimhood. That's DARVO, reverse victim and offender RVO. All Right, 466 00:29:08,599 --> 00:29:11,680 So here was Senator Murphy sounded a little bit different 467 00:29:11,839 --> 00:29:18,440 after the Luigi Mangioni assassin I shouldn't say his name. Yeah, 468 00:29:18,519 --> 00:29:22,279 after the Healthcare CEO was murdered. Here's what he said. 469 00:29:22,279 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: Then, listen, I think that political leaders in this country 470 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920 need to be part of this conversation that's happening all 471 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:31,519 over the country in the wake of the shooting of 472 00:29:31,519 --> 00:29:34,960 the United Healthcare CEO. I know that it's fraud. I 473 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,279 know that it's uncomfortable, but this is really important, listener. 474 00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:43,359 I'm never going to condone violence. I don't hear. I 475 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:46,079 spent my entire life fighting gun violence because I know 476 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,119 it's a devastation. 477 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: It's smell abo. 478 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 4: Enormous that it leaves behind what I see have gotten 479 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,480 out in this country, though, is a real visceral anger 480 00:29:56,519 --> 00:30:00,000 that the outrage at Brian Thompson's death, or the outrage 481 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,960 is the death of any powerful person isn't matched by 482 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:07,839 the anger over the thousands of people who die, often 483 00:30:08,039 --> 00:30:11,440 anonymous deaths, every single day in this country, at the 484 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,160 hands of a health care industry that mostly doesn't give 485 00:30:15,319 --> 00:30:20,599 a shit about people and only cares about profits. Ordinary 486 00:30:20,599 --> 00:30:23,839 people in this country are not indifferent to the loss 487 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,000 of life, but these companies are. 488 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: Why do I know this? Why do millions of Americans 489 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,240 know this? 490 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 4: Because the business model of the healthcare industry is to 491 00:30:35,119 --> 00:30:39,519 deny care, necessary medical care to people who need it 492 00:30:39,839 --> 00:30:43,720 and force them into bankruptcy or worse, let them die 493 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,200 in order to grow profit. There are a ton of 494 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:54,480 good people in healthcare industry, n doctors, but that's in 495 00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:55,880 a moral system. 496 00:30:56,359 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 3: Watching people die, ruining families financially. 497 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: That god profit and make money for the people who 498 00:31:01,839 --> 00:31:03,200 run the biggest companies. 499 00:31:04,279 --> 00:31:07,319 Speaker 3: Murder is never justified. It isn't. 500 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 4: But but this country's leaders don't pay attention to the 501 00:31:11,039 --> 00:31:14,759 conversation that's happening right now this weekend. That is a mistake. 502 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:20,559 People in America today feel ignored, They feel scared, They 503 00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:24,759 feel alone in a system that intentionally grinds them down, 504 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:31,119 a system where profit matters more than life. My colleagues 505 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,920 need to listen and you need to do something about it. 506 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:39,920 Speaker 1: Hmm. See, when it's a healthcare ceo getting assassinated on 507 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,400 the sidewalk, Senator Murphy would like to have a conversation 508 00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:48,279 about the underlying animosity and how did that grow and 509 00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:52,480 where did we fail the shooter? You know, it's really 510 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,359 our fault. He was just responding to this terrible thing, 511 00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,960 and so he just had to murder a ceo of 512 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,319 a health insurance provider that his family doesn't actually use. 513 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,079 But in this case, no, no, no, In this case, 514 00:32:10,119 --> 00:32:16,200 no national conversation except maga did it? Why are you 515 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,640 not interested in finding out maybe what this guy up 516 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:23,039 in Minnesota? Maybe don't you want to know what motivated 517 00:32:23,119 --> 00:32:28,960 him and address maybe those underlying animosities and where did 518 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:33,480 they come from and maybe you did something to inspire this. No, no, 519 00:32:33,559 --> 00:32:38,799 we don't have that conversation because it's different. All right, 520 00:32:38,799 --> 00:32:41,160 that'll do it for this episode. Thank you so much 521 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,240 for listening. I could not do the show without your 522 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:46,039 support and the support of the businesses that advertise on 523 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:48,880 the podcast, So if you'd like, please support them too 524 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:50,599 and tell them you heard it here. 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