Speaker 1: The US and Canada reached a last minute deal, delaying terriffs.
Speaker 1: According to the President, who says deal in a big
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Speaker 1: the latest thrills in Major League Baseball.
Speaker 2: I'm Kate Delaney. That's when we go into the man cave.
Speaker 1: At first the top, we roll into the rundown here
Speaker 1: on America tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a.
Speaker 2: Big night politically speaking.
Speaker 1: In the Florida governor's race, the November matchup to succeed
Speaker 1: term limited Republican governor Ron DeSantis is all set. Representative
Speaker 1: Byron Donalds, who is endorsed by President Trump, will face
Speaker 1: David Jolly, a former Republican congressman and prominent Trump critic
Speaker 1: who left the GOP in twenty eighteen. Here's the excitement
Speaker 1: around Donalds, who's been campaigning in the Sunshine State.
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Speaker 5: We've been knocking hundreds of thousands of doors, taking our
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Speaker 1: Meanwhile, Democratic socialist Angie Nixon a major upset over former
Speaker 1: National Security Council aid alex Vinman. In the Florida Democratic
Speaker 1: Senate primary. Republican Congressman Corey Mills, who had Trump's backing,
Speaker 1: lost his primary in Florida amid a Florida of probes
Speaker 1: and super negative publicity. In the Alaska Senate race, Alaska's
Speaker 1: primary is going to determine whether Republican Senator Dan Sullivan
Speaker 1: faces a candidate with the same name on the ballot
Speaker 1: in November as he navigates a really tough re election race.
Speaker 1: It includes for Rep. Mary Helltola, a Democrat, the other
Speaker 1: the other Dan Sullivan's involvement has drawn attention of the
Speaker 1: Justice Department, with the Grand Jury issuing subpoenas to compel
Speaker 1: info from witnesses linked to the campaign, So there is.
Speaker 2: That curve ball.
Speaker 1: And in Florida, two other Trump back candidates lost House primaries.
Speaker 2: I mentioned briefly.
Speaker 1: Former TV journalist Ryan Elijah defeated Corey Mills. He's got
Speaker 1: the whole House Ethics Committee stuff that he's facing in
Speaker 1: Justice Department investigations, so that didn't help. And in the
Speaker 1: nineteenth District of Florida, local conservative talk radio station owner
Speaker 1: Jim Schwartzel won the Republican nomination over Catalina Loff, who
Speaker 1: had previously run for Congress in ill a noise. So
Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that happened. Maybe some of
Speaker 1: you were out there.
Speaker 2: How about this?
Speaker 1: With almost sixty percent of the expected vote counted, Democratic
Speaker 1: California state Senator Show Wahab has fifty one percent, a
Speaker 1: fellow Democrat, Melissa Hernandez forty eight percent in the race
Speaker 1: for former Representative Eric Swaalwell's district. That seat is open
Speaker 1: after he resigned this year amid sexual assault allegations, which
Speaker 1: he continues to deny.
Speaker 2: I'll throw another run at you.
Speaker 1: State Senator Eric Barlow has won the Republican primary for
Speaker 1: Wyoming governor. He emerged from a multi candidate field that
Speaker 1: included a state superintendent, Megan Denger Felder, who was endorsed
Speaker 1: by the President. Meanwhile, what is the latest going on
Speaker 1: in Iran? And the answer to that question is it's
Speaker 1: the same situation.
Speaker 2: Nothing has changed.
Speaker 1: The needle hasn't moved in any direction that the last
Speaker 1: couple of days we haven't seen since the memorandum of
Speaker 1: understanding is now more than a few days byered. Here's
Speaker 1: what the President said a few days ago and it
Speaker 1: really just still stands right now.
Speaker 6: After we finish defeating Iran, which is being very badly defeated,
Speaker 6: pretty soon, I'll be declaring the hormoes straight a territory
Speaker 6: of the United States.
Speaker 7: Shade say this one.
Speaker 8: We have the blockade.
Speaker 6: No ships get through unless.
Speaker 4: We want them to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here's what did happen.
Speaker 1: Iran fired two ballistic missiles toward the Strait on Tuesday,
Speaker 1: triggering air defenses in the United Arab Emirates. According to
Speaker 1: that country's Ministry of Defense, they say the missiles were
Speaker 1: targeting maritime traffic, but they just fell into the sea.
Speaker 1: Earlier on Tuesday, and irani An attack hit the engine
Speaker 1: room of a bulk carrier in the straight east of Oman,
Speaker 1: leaving the chief engineer dead. The UAE says Iran has
Speaker 1: attacked seven of its ships this month so far. August
Speaker 1: counts for twenty percent of all attacks on shipping in
Speaker 1: the war, which is now approaching its six month mark.
Speaker 1: US sent Command, which overseas American forces in the Middle East,
Speaker 1: hasn't announced any kind of a retaliatory strike that we
Speaker 1: know of on the targets in Iran since late July.
Speaker 1: The us as I mentioned is continue to prevent ships
Speaker 1: from visiting Irani imports, however, including firing hell fire missiles
Speaker 1: to stop vessels trying to breach the blockade, because there
Speaker 1: certainly has been that. The strategy right now is to
Speaker 1: back off military action in favor of tightening the economic
Speaker 1: pressure on Tehran. But we'll see, because remember earlier in
Speaker 1: the summer of the US launched punishing strikes after Iran
Speaker 1: tacked attacked ships, and then that prompted Iran to lob
Speaker 1: missiles and drones across the gulf. So pretty much we're
Speaker 1: seeing the same thing, tightening the economic screws. But I
Speaker 1: don't know how long that's going to last before there's
Speaker 1: some other kind of before there's some other kind.
Speaker 2: Of of movement. All right.
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, really strange, a couple of really strange things. One
Speaker 1: was this squid. Twenty tons of squid spilled when a
Speaker 1: tractor trailer was trying to make a turn and it
Speaker 1: ultimately spilled over so that on that highway it had
Speaker 1: to be closed for eight hours. It happened at nine
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning and was not opened, was not
Speaker 1: reopened until five fifteen.
Speaker 2: But you, Thak, I got to.
Speaker 1: Think about twenty tons of squid and what that would
Speaker 1: be like on a portion of a big portion of
Speaker 1: the highway, and the driver was cited for fail to
Speaker 1: secure a load by the Rhode Island State Police. Nobody
Speaker 1: was injured. That's certainly the very very good news there.
Speaker 1: But it's a really strange, strange, strange, strange range thing.
Speaker 1: Zz Top's drummer died. He's some of that was very familiar.
Speaker 1: I think to a lot of people that were fans
Speaker 1: of zz Top, I would count myself as one of those.
Speaker 1: Frank Beard was part of that rock trio. He died
Speaker 1: at his ranch in Richmond, Texas, with his family members
Speaker 1: at his side. No cause of death was given. Seventy
Speaker 1: seven years old. Rip to an incredible, incredible drummer for
Speaker 1: that group. I mean, it's interesting because he's been with
Speaker 1: them since nineteen sixty nine when that band was called
Speaker 1: the Moving Sidewalks and then they flipped their name. I
Speaker 1: mean he had some he's had some signature moves, I
Speaker 1: would say, you know, with some of the big songs
Speaker 1: for zz Top, and since I saw them, I have
Speaker 1: to say they put on a really really, really good
Speaker 1: show and of course inducted into the Rock and Roll
Speaker 1: Hall Hall of Fame in two thousand and four. Excuse me,
Speaker 1: He struggled with substance abuse early in the band's history
Speaker 1: before checking himself into rehab in the nineteen eighties, but
Speaker 1: again ripped to Frank Beard at the group ZZ top.
Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, it's all about sports. We'll
Speaker 1: check in on training camps. Who's in danger now because
Speaker 1: it just seems like we've had a lot of injuries,
Speaker 1: that's for sure. And then major League Baseball there's always
Speaker 1: some incredible highlights and Tuesday was no different. We're going
Speaker 1: to hit that up coming up on the Flip with
Speaker 1: me Kate Delaney here on America Tonight.
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Speaker 5: going to the mar Cave. I'm going to the man cave.
Speaker 1: In the man cave, boy, there is always a ton
Speaker 1: to get to. I say that I feel like every
Speaker 1: single time.
Speaker 2: Because maybe I do.
Speaker 1: So here's one for you. Can you imagine being this guy?
Speaker 1: I met him once, super nice But ESPN co founder
Speaker 1: Bill Rasmussen dies at ninety three from the effects of
Speaker 1: Parkinson's disease. When you think of where it all started,
Speaker 1: he co founded the TV sports Giant. He hatched the
Speaker 1: idea for the first all sports cable network with his son.
Speaker 1: And when you talk about history, wow, I mean just
Speaker 1: having that vision and coming up with the idea of
Speaker 1: a network carrying sports around the clock. I mean it relutionized.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, TV watching habits, right, and it's interesting
Speaker 1: they were forced out though only a year, after only
Speaker 1: a year, by ESPN majority owner Getty Oil. I had
Speaker 1: no idea, that's what it was. And Rasmussen's original idea
Speaker 1: was a cable channel covering only Connecticut sports, but many
Speaker 1: cable operators in the state were skeptical, and so someone
Speaker 1: suggested buying satellite time to reach a national audience, and
Speaker 1: oh boy, oh boy. The rest was history right after,
Speaker 1: you know, after that? All right, Meanwhile, when we jump
Speaker 1: to what's happening in training camps, every time I look,
Speaker 1: exactly every time I look and I checked, like the
Speaker 1: reports for injuries, I'm like, oh please, and let's not
Speaker 1: have another big injury. But it's like the Jets, they
Speaker 1: they're pretty cautious with injured Breis Hall because look at
Speaker 1: it's he could be on track for Week one after
Speaker 1: a growing injury, but he's expected him as two to
Speaker 1: three weeks after having that injury, which they want to
Speaker 1: get him there for the regular season opener. And he said,
Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting, but this happened to Monday's practice
Speaker 1: and he said he didn't think it was a big deal,
Speaker 1: and then here you go. You know, you check it
Speaker 1: out and whoops, it is a big deal because he's
Speaker 1: going to lead the team, probably in rushing, and he's
Speaker 1: when since he joined the league as a second rounder
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, he's been one of the most
Speaker 1: consistent parts of the offense for the Jets over the
Speaker 1: last four seasons.
Speaker 2: So I'm a Jets fan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, be careful with him, right, I mean, he's been
Speaker 1: so good he got a three year, forty three point
Speaker 1: five million dollar contract extension, so there's no reason for Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no reason for that. And in the meantime, this
Speaker 1: is another interesting sideline to throw out that we've talked
Speaker 1: about a lot here on this show. I've talked about
Speaker 1: it on other sports shows. Roger Goodell is saying the
Speaker 1: NFL is going to add an international team at some point.
Speaker 2: He keeps getting asked that, and he's saying, it's.
Speaker 1: Just a matter of when, not if the league will
Speaker 1: expand abroad. But it may be not anytime soon. It
Speaker 1: might be a decade. You know, there's more games as
Speaker 1: you can see creeping up with other with other countries,
Speaker 1: you know, taking the game to other countries, with Germany, England,
Speaker 1: et cetera, all over the place, and every year there
Speaker 1: just becomes more of those games. So that's not a
Speaker 1: surprise that the desire is to have a team somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, if the NFL does add a team outside
Speaker 1: the United States, London seems like the most obvious place
Speaker 1: that it would go. If they were to put up
Speaker 1: an entire division in Europe, London could end up with
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know, multiple teams.
Speaker 11: Teams.
Speaker 1: Wow, it's pretty interesting to think. What would that, how
Speaker 1: would that play out? What would that look like? All right,
Speaker 1: let's head to baseball and boy, we have some really
Speaker 1: crazy scores. I'm gonna start with the craziest of all.
Speaker 1: When I first saw this, I thought I caught a
Speaker 1: few little highlights, but I thought, I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is wrong. I wonder if they just got the score wrong. No,
Speaker 1: Brewers destroyed the marriage. When I say destroyed, and this
Speaker 1: happened in Milwaukee, I would be loving this.
Speaker 2: If I was a fan, I wouldn't have left. I
Speaker 2: wouldn't have left the stadium.
Speaker 1: Twenty two nothing, Yeah, twenty two two zip. So they
Speaker 1: match baseball's modern era record for the biggest shutout. And
Speaker 1: I mean the Mariners could get nothing done. They just
Speaker 1: couldn't get anything done. And part of it is they
Speaker 1: had three run homers from Christian Yelich, from David Hamilton,
Speaker 1: from Luis Lara, had a two run shot by Jake Bowers.
Speaker 1: So the Brewers now they're seventy eight and forty eight.
Speaker 1: They matched a franchise record for runs in a game
Speaker 1: since nineteen oh won. The only previous twenty two ZIP
Speaker 1: victories were by Pittsburgh over the Cubs. That was in
Speaker 1: seventy five in Cleveland at the Yankees, and that happened
Speaker 1: in two thousand and four.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: I mean, just when you come out of that game,
Speaker 1: it's such a laugher. You just got to be feeling
Speaker 1: completely psyched in a much different way, right.
Speaker 2: How about the Cubs in the White Sox.
Speaker 1: Wow, this is an intercity rivalryad that really is pretty intense.
Speaker 1: So Pete crow Armstrong makes MLB history the leadoff home
Speaker 1: run and Alex Bregman's RBI single gave the cubs a
Speaker 1: second straight walkoff win over the White Sox.
Speaker 2: That's my favorite thing, walk off wins. So this was
Speaker 2: great for the fans that were there.
Speaker 1: For Crow arms Strong leading off of that homer, that's
Speaker 1: his thirty first for the second straight game in six
Speaker 1: time this season. How about that. He's a fun player too.
Speaker 1: He's a fun player to watch, no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: And for the Cubs they pick up their seventy fourth
Speaker 1: win too, So that's pretty significant. Hey, Twins fans, wake up,
Speaker 1: where are you for to one beaten the Brewers?
Speaker 2: I like it?
Speaker 1: Point at it, Josh Bell, he had a two run
Speaker 1: jack Ryan Jeffers drove in Minnesota's other two runs, and
Speaker 1: it's a big night for the Twins. For Bell, it's
Speaker 1: his seventeenth homer of the year went flying over the
Speaker 1: right center wall in the first inning. Yeah, Pad, that
Speaker 1: sucker right from the start. Get some runs right in
Speaker 1: the beginning of this thing. So pretty significant, Pretty significant there,
Speaker 1: all right. More scores to report from Major League Baseball.
Speaker 1: Guardians beat the Giants eight one. The Phillies pick up
Speaker 1: number sixty nine. Zach Wheeler, how about you won the
Speaker 1: Mountain five innings pitched, giving up just two hits and
Speaker 1: seven strikeouts four walks in that one. For the Phillies,
Speaker 1: they like it, they need that. The Yankees beat the
Speaker 1: Orioles out of camping Yards three one. Pirates pick up
Speaker 1: number sixty two by beating the Tigers. There's pretty decent
Speaker 1: rivalry or history there, certainly with that team that goes
Speaker 1: back a little ways. But Braxton Ashcroft allowed five hits
Speaker 1: over eight innings and O'Nell Cruz homered in his return
Speaker 1: from the injured list. So for the Pirates, that was
Speaker 1: a nice, nice win for them to pick that up.
Speaker 1: And you know, Detroit's in a tight race with a
Speaker 1: handful of clubs for the final Al wild card spot.
Speaker 1: They've lost four out of five. So the series wraps
Speaker 1: up on Wednesday, and both teams pushing to get those
Speaker 1: pulling out those scraps, getting any win that they could
Speaker 1: possibly pull off. Blue Jays knocking off the Rays, that's
Speaker 1: pretty big. This was out at the Troup ten five
Speaker 1: the final there. So the Rays have been on a
Speaker 1: They get on these like little tour in tears and
Speaker 1: then they fall down the mountain again. So kaz Yakamoto
Speaker 1: broke Toronto's rookie home run record for this twenty fifth.
Speaker 1: Josh Smith and Alejandro Kirk also homered. So for the Jays,
Speaker 1: beating the AL leading Tampa Rays is a very big one.
Speaker 1: The Blue Jays have won thirteen of their last nineteen games.
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty significant. I would say there, Padres knocked off
Speaker 1: the five two. Where are my diamondback fans?
Speaker 2: Sorry?
Speaker 1: Red Sox out at Fenway nine to four the final
Speaker 1: nine to four Royals beat the A's four to three,
Speaker 1: and then we also will sneak in. I think there's
Speaker 1: one more score I wanted to sneak in. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: the couple of them. The Rangers blanked the Nationals out
Speaker 1: at Global Life Field five zip. And if we look
Speaker 1: at that game, I still love covering the Rangers. Cal
Speaker 1: Quintrell gave up. Quintrell gave up four hits in seven innings,
Speaker 1: and Justin Foscue hit a home run. Rangers knocked off,
Speaker 1: knocked off the Nationals. So it's a four hundred foot
Speaker 1: home run over left field wall in the second inning.
Speaker 1: So again picking up those early runs and what that
Speaker 1: does for your picture, just again, just that little just
Speaker 1: that little extra something something right, that little extra boost there, all.
Speaker 2: Right, coming up.
Speaker 1: It's not about home runs and records now, it's about
Speaker 1: something completely different. It's about influence. Big Mama. Part of
Speaker 1: the discussion that we're going to have an author's Corner
Speaker 1: and a really intriguing book that's written like a novel
Speaker 1: that addresses all kinds of things, including grief. That's coming
Speaker 1: up round the bend with me Kate Delaney.
Speaker 2: On the Show of Coner.
Speaker 8: She asked of.
Speaker 1: Doctor paulot Ola, Sogi joins us, and she's got amazing book,
Speaker 1: Death in the Values The Big Family Lie, a thuriller
Speaker 1: about the life and death of Big Mama. We had
Speaker 1: an incredible off air conversation and so I'm really pleased
Speaker 1: to introduce her here on Author's Corner with me Kat's
Speaker 1: Laney on America Tonight. Thank you so much for joining
Speaker 1: us on the shelf.
Speaker 10: I'm so glad to be here.
Speaker 1: So the question that people always want to know and
Speaker 1: are always curious about is what made you write this
Speaker 1: book in the first place and how tough was it
Speaker 1: to write?
Speaker 10: Well, when I first started writing it, it was at
Speaker 10: the end of a book. I was writing for a conference.
Speaker 10: And sometimes when I do conferences, people will ask me
Speaker 10: to write a book because they'll have like a book circle,
Speaker 10: a book club. And I wrote a book that will
Speaker 10: call Lost in the Loss, and it was dealing with grief.
Speaker 10: And that book almost like devastated me. So I realized
Speaker 10: that I had some unresolved issues around grief that.
Speaker 9: I had not dealt with.
Speaker 10: And so by the time I finished that book, I
Speaker 10: realized it had something to do with my grandmother's death.
Speaker 10: And so I started on this book as a healing
Speaker 10: journey for myself, but I felt like it could help
Speaker 10: on the people.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Big Mama really was the head of the family, right,
Speaker 1: And when you take the head of the family away
Speaker 1: and you deal with the funeral and you deal with
Speaker 1: the conversations, but then suddenly you go back to everyday life,
Speaker 1: it really becomes tough, right.
Speaker 10: It really does. And a lot of times people look
Speaker 10: to who they consider the strongest person in the family.
Speaker 10: And so you start going to the funeral homes and
Speaker 10: you start picking up death certificates and dealing with a
Speaker 10: lot of stuff, but you never deal with the issue
Speaker 10: of how Big Mama affected you when she was alive,
Speaker 10: and now that she's gone, you've lost a very important
Speaker 10: chapter in your life. Now, when you think it's all over,
Speaker 10: grief hits you when everybody else is going.
Speaker 9: On with their life.
Speaker 1: And what was Big Mama like.
Speaker 10: Big Mama was not only the head of our family,
Speaker 10: but Big Mama was the head of almost every family
Speaker 10: in the community. People came to her when they had
Speaker 10: medical issues, financial issues, kids issues, everything, and Big Mama
Speaker 10: was there. So you could not walk in with a
Speaker 10: need and walk out with some kind of answer. You
Speaker 10: couldn't be hungry, and she wouldn't send food home for
Speaker 10: you to cook as well as off of you a meal.
Speaker 10: So she was the one. She was very spiritual, very
Speaker 10: very spiritual, So that's where the spiritual side came in,
Speaker 10: and it was almost like she kept me close to
Speaker 10: her dress tail and when other people in the other
Speaker 10: kids in the family would go please, So she would say, no,
Speaker 10: you can't go because you're different. She never would tell
Speaker 10: me why I was different, but she would always teach
Speaker 10: me things. So I learned a lot of stuff from her,
Speaker 10: and she was a great teacher. But she was a
Speaker 10: very spiritual person.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and your book is so interesting. You talk about
Speaker 1: the Big Family lie, and we don't want to tell
Speaker 1: everyone everything because this book will really grab you and
Speaker 1: you want to read this. You can get it for
Speaker 1: a song in Amazon or or Barnes and Noble. But
Speaker 1: what tell us a little bit about the Big Family lie?
Speaker 10: Well in the story, And like I said, I don't
Speaker 10: want to tell everything any that'd be interested in it.
Speaker 8: But it was like when.
Speaker 10: Big Mama dies, because of her status in the community,
Speaker 10: nobody wanted the truth to be told about how she died.
Speaker 10: So then they created, fabricated this lie and weaved it
Speaker 10: through the family and weaved it through the community. And
Speaker 10: so the young lady in the story had to keep
Speaker 10: rehearsing it because she knew that was not the way
Speaker 10: it really happened. But to keep the status, to keep
Speaker 10: people looking at the family as who they were, they
Speaker 10: would not tell how Big Mama really died and Big
Speaker 10: Mama really didn't do anything wrong. They were really covering
Speaker 10: for somebody else, their family image. And I wanted it
Speaker 10: to be like a self help book as well as
Speaker 10: a thriller. And because I've been writing for so long,
Speaker 10: I've been writing since I was a kid, I wanted
Speaker 10: to weave in certain areas of help. And I've always
Speaker 10: gone into help ministries and help life stories and stuff
Speaker 10: like that. So I write books that's going to help
Speaker 10: people to read but come out of been learning something
Speaker 10: that's going to be able to be applied to their life.
Speaker 10: So I dealt with grief.
Speaker 13: I dealt with the stages of grief.
Speaker 10: And how one can come out. I dealt with unforgiveness.
Speaker 10: I dealt with all of that in the book, because
Speaker 10: even though it's a thriller, it's going to help you
Speaker 10: come out and deal with some of the issues in
Speaker 10: your personal life.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and E've been writing since you were a kid.
Speaker 1: When you and I talked, what did you tell me?
Speaker 1: It was something crazy like forty five books.
Speaker 13: Forty five books.
Speaker 10: Yeah, And I finally finished my children's books since I've
Speaker 10: been here, you know, mos sabbatical. So I finished my
Speaker 10: children's book the Shoe that Would Not Go. I was
Speaker 10: like a little kid in here laughing as I wrote
Speaker 10: the pages of that book as well. So I had
Speaker 10: fun with that one.
Speaker 1: We can't wait to hear more about that. Let's talk
Speaker 1: still more about death and the body. So with this book,
Speaker 1: what do you hope people take away? You know, I
Speaker 1: read the book. Other people listening to us, they read
Speaker 1: the book, they're curious, they get it yay. And when
Speaker 1: they read it, what do you hope The big takeaway is?
Speaker 10: I hope that people will walk away knowing that something
Speaker 10: may happen in your life that may cause a pause,
Speaker 10: but it doesn't need to make you stop and not
Speaker 10: be able to move, even if it's a death or
Speaker 10: the loss of a family member, whether they walk away
Speaker 10: from a friendship, a loss of a pet. If someone
Speaker 10: walks away, life does not stop. Their life ends in
Speaker 10: a way, but the memories cause them to live on forever.
Speaker 10: And because of what you can grab from the past
Speaker 10: or what you learn from them, they stay alive within
Speaker 10: your life. They stay alive within the things that you do.
Speaker 10: And in spite of the fact that Big Mama is gone,
Speaker 10: every time I write something, she shows up somewhere and
Speaker 10: something that I write, something that I teach. And so
Speaker 10: in this book, I'm hoping that when they get through
Speaker 10: reading it, they'll go through the grieving process, which is normal.
Speaker 10: Some processes last longer than others. And we're going to
Speaker 10: give you a chance to go through however long it takes.
Speaker 10: But you don't have to die yourself in the process.
Speaker 10: You can come out better because you'll go back remembering
Speaker 10: the bad things, but you're going to remember little words
Speaker 10: that people said to you, Little things that Grandma said,
Speaker 10: you know, to her grandchildren that they can even say
Speaker 10: not And a lot of times you'll be sitting down
Speaker 10: and saying, oh, I remember Mama said. One of the
Speaker 10: things she said, don't cry over things that can heal. Well,
Speaker 10: we may cry, but we don't have to linger in
Speaker 10: the grief because we know that maybe next year this
Speaker 10: time you're gonna think about that same thing and laugh
Speaker 10: about it.
Speaker 13: So she will tell you just little little.
Speaker 10: Things that we can pull from it. And I hope
Speaker 10: that the people will be able to pull those things.
Speaker 10: And the main thing I remember Grandma is saying was
Speaker 10: truth may cost you, but lies will bankrupt your soul.
Speaker 10: And every time you think about that, it's like people
Speaker 10: have to keep covering a lie and covering a lie
Speaker 10: and remembering the last lie they told. But when you
Speaker 10: tell the truth, it's almost like a freedom. And I
Speaker 10: know you can't tell everything, but you don't have to
Speaker 10: keep building lie upon lie upon life because that will
Speaker 10: bankrupt your soul.
Speaker 1: Wow, I mean she's alive in that. Just the hashtag
Speaker 1: lies will bankrupt your soul. I hope everyone hears that.
Speaker 1: And it's tough, right because we classify our lies like
Speaker 1: a little white lie.
Speaker 2: Oh, my dad, And.
Speaker 1: Then you're right, because then you forget and then something
Speaker 1: that maybe was nothing becomes bigger. So big Mama nailed it.
Speaker 8: Right, right right.
Speaker 10: I remember she used to say, uh, don't let one
Speaker 10: bad chep to write your home or your entire book.
Speaker 10: So you may have had a bad day, but that
Speaker 10: doesn't mean you're going to have a bad week. You
Speaker 10: may have had a bad week, but it doesn't mean
Speaker 10: you're going to have a bad month. This might not
Speaker 10: have been a pretty good year, but the next five
Speaker 10: years might be great. So I learned learn from the
Speaker 10: older things, and I learned from the things that were
Speaker 10: not really so good. But then when you begin to
Speaker 10: build on it, and you can begin to see I
Speaker 10: learned something from that, though I'm going to forgive you,
Speaker 10: but I learned something from that. So now you've got
Speaker 10: something else to build on. So I'm hoping that people
Speaker 10: will read the book. They'll find things that they can
Speaker 10: build on. Things that may been crying over for years
Speaker 10: they can now go back and laugh at. And I know,
Speaker 10: like for the first couple of holidays after her death,
Speaker 10: it was like we could not have a good Thanksgiving
Speaker 10: or Christmas. Now we laugh about it. And now that
Speaker 10: we do videos, now we didn't do it back then.
Speaker 10: We do videos. We'll show some of the videos of
Speaker 10: some of our loved ones that die. And my family
Speaker 10: have longevity, so they live to be about one hundred
Speaker 10: hundred two, one hundred and four or five, you know,
Speaker 10: and so we can go back and look at some
Speaker 10: of these people and go, wow, But a year before
Speaker 10: we were still crying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what a great blessing that is. You know, as
Speaker 1: you said, you're on sabbatical and you're a life coach,
Speaker 1: and what a wonderful thing that's perfect for your personality
Speaker 1: and the way you can reach and touch people and
Speaker 1: now children this with the book about the shoe tell
Speaker 1: us a little bit about that. Once that comes out,
Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. I've never heard anything like this.
Speaker 10: Well, I was sitting at my dinner table and I
Speaker 10: was just thinking, and I started, I have a little cousin.
Speaker 10: He's about I think he's five now, and he has autism,
Speaker 10: and I would keep him. So that's why I became
Speaker 10: an autism coach, because I would keep him and try
Speaker 10: to help him. And he's nonverbal, and I would show
Speaker 10: him little things and he would point out what he
Speaker 10: wanted me to do. So I was thinking about him
Speaker 10: when I wrote the book. And so in my mind
Speaker 10: I saw this closet full of shoes, and there was
Speaker 10: always this little purple shoe that wouldn't go but so far.
Speaker 10: And so the other shoes would go out and come
Speaker 10: back and tell them what a great time they had.
Speaker 10: But the little purple shoe always said, I can't go
Speaker 10: but this far. I can't go but this far, And
Speaker 10: so they kept encouraging to go back and come back
Speaker 10: and tell the story. So I had the little purple
Speaker 10: shoe to step out of the closet one day saw
Speaker 10: his shadow and got scared and wanted to go back.
Speaker 10: In and one of the shoes said, that is not
Speaker 10: anything to be afraid of. That is your courage. I
Speaker 10: see that shadow every time I go out hunting and
Speaker 10: the sun is shining inside you. It's a shadow, but
Speaker 10: it's called courage. And every time you see that shadow
Speaker 10: when you walk out, you know that you've got courage.
Speaker 10: That's something special that dwells on the inside of you.
Speaker 10: And that thing just let me up. So I decided
Speaker 10: to write about it like that, and I wanted to
Speaker 10: dedicate that book to him.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I can't wait for that one, and what
Speaker 1: a great gift that will be. Doctor Paul let Alisoji,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for coming on Death and the Values.
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Speaker 10: Yes, I was so happy when I found out I
Speaker 10: was going to be talking to you, and I'm honored
Speaker 10: first of all that you even allowed me to be
Speaker 10: on your show. So I was really grateful to you,
Speaker 10: and I invite everybody to go out and get this book.
Speaker 10: I read it again. I told you the last time.
Speaker 10: I read it again because somebody wanted to do it
Speaker 10: at a conference and at first I said, well, this
Speaker 10: is a church conference. I don't think this is going
Speaker 10: to be good, but when I looked at the message
Speaker 10: that it gave in the book, I said do it
Speaker 10: and they say yay. So I'm going to go to
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Speaker 1: What a great message of perfect place, henis.
Speaker 10: Thank you so much, Thank you so much for having
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Speaker 2: We've had him before. He's one of my favorite people.
Speaker 1: I love the way he speaks, and the way he
Speaker 1: writes is the way he speaks, and I think that's
Speaker 1: a sign of a great storyteller. His name is George Mills,
Speaker 1: and he joins us here again on Author's Corner on
Speaker 1: America Tonight with me Kate Delaney and this book, Clay's
Speaker 1: Battle Between True Love and Lust. Oh, George, it's so
Speaker 1: good to have you back on.
Speaker 8: Thank you for having me, ma'am.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about this adventure and this is another
Speaker 1: unique one. Tell us about what happens here.
Speaker 2: How'd you come up with this? And tell us more
Speaker 2: about the story.
Speaker 8: Well, you know, I've written several books and the Battle
Speaker 8: between True Love and Lust it was ideal that came
Speaker 8: to me when I was writing Clay's in the Dreams.
Speaker 8: I wanted to find out what the difference was between
Speaker 8: true love and lust. I could go on through a
Speaker 8: divorce fifteen well you know, about eleven, twelve years ago, and.
Speaker 13: That's what.
Speaker 8: Started me writing all of the books that I have written,
Speaker 8: was the fact that I went to the divorce, but
Speaker 8: plays in this dream really gave me an insight to
Speaker 8: search out what's the difference between true love and lust?
Speaker 8: And as that's one of the answers that This is
Speaker 8: one of the answers that I gave mister Nick on
Speaker 8: this questionnaire as I set out to see if I
Speaker 8: could find the answer to that question, what is the
Speaker 8: difference between true love and lust? And I asked several
Speaker 8: friends what their input would be, and all of them
Speaker 8: was different except for one answer, and that answer was,
Speaker 8: read your Holy Bible, reading God's word, you will find
Speaker 8: what the meaning of true love really is all about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that that. That's the one area where you
Speaker 1: can go to because, as you know, and you expressed
Speaker 1: this in the other books, it's really tough going through divorce.
Speaker 1: You kind of get blindsided, don't you.
Speaker 8: You do. And it was really tough on me because
Speaker 8: it was today, that my birthday, when she confronted me
Speaker 8: that she no longer was in love. So to me,
Speaker 8: what is the difference between true love and us? To me,
Speaker 8: it was true love. And that's one of the things
Speaker 8: that I've struggled with here lately. And that's what also
Speaker 8: inspired me to write a book What Is Love and
Speaker 8: What's Lush? We meet people, and as I discussed is
Speaker 8: in the book with one of my characters, he goes
Speaker 8: into a long background that that's what the purpose was
Speaker 8: was for us to repopulate the earth. And we have
Speaker 8: that mentality of seeking out the person that we feel
Speaker 8: would give us a strong offspring, you know, to carry
Speaker 8: on the genes that we have had in our lives.
Speaker 1: That makes sense, It does make sense, and that's why
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you and your friends had a few
Speaker 1: different answers, and in this book that's the idea. Clay
Speaker 1: wants to get an understanding of what true love is
Speaker 1: all about because of being stunned about being all of
Speaker 1: a sudden going through a divorce after twenty five years
Speaker 1: and now finding himself in that situation of wow, what
Speaker 1: do you do and what do you encounter when you're
Speaker 1: alone and along the way, and you really have some
Speaker 1: clever things that you write about in the book. Because
Speaker 1: life becomes different, right it.
Speaker 8: Does, and it's for me. It gave me that what
Speaker 8: is the difference between true loving us? I want to know,
Speaker 8: you know what likes that animal instinct kick in and
Speaker 8: the only way you can find the answer is going
Speaker 8: through the Bible, God's words and everything and seeking it out.
Speaker 8: He said, ask and it shall be giving. And if
Speaker 8: you seek the answer, you will find it. And I
Speaker 8: hope I found it. Yes, other stuffcoming, Look, Clay finding
Speaker 8: sighs is true love.
Speaker 1: Mm, which is great, you know, knowing and learning the
Speaker 1: difference between true love and lust and then finding that
Speaker 1: true love. So you think you can find true love
Speaker 1: even when you thought you had it and lost it,
Speaker 1: and no matter what age.
Speaker 8: Right, right, that's true. You can't you can't even stop learning,
Speaker 8: I guess you can say.
Speaker 2: And not stopping and learning.
Speaker 1: That's part of the that's part of Clay's mindset is that, Okay,
Speaker 1: now I have to dust myself off. I've got I've
Speaker 1: got these new found friends, and I've got to go
Speaker 1: on these different adventures and encounter different things along the way.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens in this there's even some kind
Speaker 1: of I guess heated arguments. There's some back and forth
Speaker 1: a few times in the book.
Speaker 13: Right, yes, ma'am, And those are my way of saying, you.
Speaker 8: Know, it's funny how each other us have our own
Speaker 8: opinion on what we see as true love and this
Speaker 8: it's definitely a challenge trying to figure out, Okay, is
Speaker 8: this person being sincere about their answer or are they
Speaker 8: just telling me something other yes, to get me to
Speaker 8: go on about my business they didn't sell. Don't know
Speaker 8: for sure, like the answer could.
Speaker 1: Be yeah, it's the great mystery, that's for sure. And
Speaker 1: also in this book, I want to make sure people
Speaker 1: know Clay's battle between true love and lust is very
Speaker 1: clever and very funny, just like George is.
Speaker 2: George.
Speaker 1: You are clever, and you do have this way of
Speaker 1: speaking and writing the same way which you can get
Speaker 1: this book and all of his books on Amazon, Barnes,
Speaker 1: Noble for a song, paperback or kindle. However you want
Speaker 1: to consume it, so you always weave humor in there.
Speaker 1: You find a way to make it funny, don't you.
Speaker 8: Yes, ma'am. And that's one of the takeaway is I
Speaker 8: want him to enjoy, but at the same time take
Speaker 8: its sears about before they jump into holy maxwell, because
Speaker 8: that is a holy natal money that God created for
Speaker 8: man and woman, as they did for Adam and Eve.
Speaker 8: It's serious and like you said earlier, you go through
Speaker 8: a divorce after that many years, it really destroys you
Speaker 8: to the point that you got to find an answer
Speaker 8: to that question was it love or was it lost?
Speaker 8: And I've had a few friends that's going through a
Speaker 8: divorce and I don't know, I hadn't talked to them
Speaker 8: about their experience with it. But for me, it was
Speaker 8: definitely a knockout blow that I had to bounce back from.
Speaker 1: I love what you said there that one of the
Speaker 1: takeaways is you want people to enjoy the book has
Speaker 1: humorous nuggets in it, but you want them to realize
Speaker 1: to be careful when you jump in.
Speaker 8: Right. That's great because, like I said, that is a
Speaker 8: holy matrimony that is meant to be for life, and
Speaker 8: life is too short to not be with the person
Speaker 8: that God has created for you. And that's another thing
Speaker 8: that I talk about is searching for that soul mate.
Speaker 8: God has created each and every one of us a
Speaker 8: perfect soul mate. And just because you see that one
Speaker 8: that you think can produce you a good off strain
Speaker 8: is not necessarily the one that He created for you.
Speaker 8: He let us make our own minds up. And that's
Speaker 8: one of the other things, the choices that we make.
Speaker 8: We gotta be careful with them because it's clat and
Speaker 8: death situation. If that's a proper way to put it.
Speaker 1: It is, and it makes complete sense. And again I
Speaker 1: think you have just a great way of speaking and
Speaker 1: a great way of pulling it all together. So this
Speaker 1: is a good read, my friends, as your other books
Speaker 1: are too as well. And it's always fun to talk
Speaker 1: to you. George Mills, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 8: Thank you, ma'am for having man. I appreciate it.