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<v Speaker 1>The US and Canada reached a last minute deal, delaying terriffs.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the President, who says deal in a big

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<v Speaker 1>social media post in big letters with exclamation points and

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<v Speaker 1>the latest thrills in Major League Baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Kate Delaney. That's when we go into the man cave.

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<v Speaker 1>At first the top, we roll into the rundown here

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<v Speaker 1>on America tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Big night politically speaking.

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<v Speaker 1>In the Florida governor's race, the November matchup to succeed

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<v Speaker 1>term limited Republican governor Ron DeSantis is all set. Representative

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<v Speaker 1>Byron Donalds, who is endorsed by President Trump, will face

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<v Speaker 1>David Jolly, a former Republican congressman and prominent Trump critic

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<v Speaker 1>who left the GOP in twenty eighteen. Here's the excitement

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<v Speaker 1>around Donalds, who's been campaigning in the Sunshine State.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been cris crossing Florida.

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<v Speaker 5>We've been knocking hundreds of thousands of doors, taking our

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<v Speaker 5>message to all Floridians, and tonight.

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<v Speaker 2>Because of your sweat, because.

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<v Speaker 6>Of your hard work, we have won a massive victory.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, Democratic socialist Angie Nixon a major upset over former

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<v Speaker 1>National Security Council aid alex Vinman. In the Florida Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Senate primary. Republican Congressman Corey Mills, who had Trump's backing,

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<v Speaker 1>lost his primary in Florida amid a Florida of probes

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<v Speaker 1>and super negative publicity. In the Alaska Senate race, Alaska's

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<v Speaker 1>primary is going to determine whether Republican Senator Dan Sullivan

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<v Speaker 1>faces a candidate with the same name on the ballot

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<v Speaker 1>in November as he navigates a really tough re election race.

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<v Speaker 1>It includes for Rep. Mary Helltola, a Democrat, the other

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<v Speaker 1>the other Dan Sullivan's involvement has drawn attention of the

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department, with the Grand Jury issuing subpoenas to compel

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<v Speaker 1>info from witnesses linked to the campaign, So there is.

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<v Speaker 2>That curve ball.

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<v Speaker 1>And in Florida, two other Trump back candidates lost House primaries.

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<v Speaker 2>I mentioned briefly.

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<v Speaker 1>Former TV journalist Ryan Elijah defeated Corey Mills. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>the whole House Ethics Committee stuff that he's facing in

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<v Speaker 1>Justice Department investigations, so that didn't help. And in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth District of Florida, local conservative talk radio station owner

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Schwartzel won the Republican nomination over Catalina Loff, who

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<v Speaker 1>had previously run for Congress in ill a noise. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a couple of things that happened. Maybe some of

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<v Speaker 1>you were out there.

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<v Speaker 2>How about this?

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<v Speaker 1>With almost sixty percent of the expected vote counted, Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>California state Senator Show Wahab has fifty one percent, a

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<v Speaker 1>fellow Democrat, Melissa Hernandez forty eight percent in the race

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<v Speaker 1>for former Representative Eric Swaalwell's district. That seat is open

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<v Speaker 1>after he resigned this year amid sexual assault allegations, which

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<v Speaker 1>he continues to deny.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll throw another run at you.

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<v Speaker 1>State Senator Eric Barlow has won the Republican primary for

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<v Speaker 1>Wyoming governor. He emerged from a multi candidate field that

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<v Speaker 1>included a state superintendent, Megan Denger Felder, who was endorsed

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<v Speaker 1>by the President. Meanwhile, what is the latest going on

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<v Speaker 1>in Iran? And the answer to that question is it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same situation.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing has changed.

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<v Speaker 1>The needle hasn't moved in any direction that the last

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days we haven't seen since the memorandum of

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<v Speaker 1>understanding is now more than a few days byered. Here's

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<v Speaker 1>what the President said a few days ago and it

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<v Speaker 1>really just still stands right now.

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<v Speaker 6>After we finish defeating Iran, which is being very badly defeated,

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<v Speaker 6>pretty soon, I'll be declaring the hormoes straight a territory

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<v Speaker 6>of the United States.

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<v Speaker 7>Shade say this one.

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<v Speaker 8>We have the blockade.

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<v Speaker 6>No ships get through unless.

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<v Speaker 4>We want them to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here's what did happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Iran fired two ballistic missiles toward the Strait on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 1>triggering air defenses in the United Arab Emirates. According to

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<v Speaker 1>that country's Ministry of Defense, they say the missiles were

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<v Speaker 1>targeting maritime traffic, but they just fell into the sea.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier on Tuesday, and irani An attack hit the engine

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<v Speaker 1>room of a bulk carrier in the straight east of Oman,

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<v Speaker 1>leaving the chief engineer dead. The UAE says Iran has

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<v Speaker 1>attacked seven of its ships this month so far. August

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<v Speaker 1>counts for twenty percent of all attacks on shipping in

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<v Speaker 1>the war, which is now approaching its six month mark.

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<v Speaker 1>US sent Command, which overseas American forces in the Middle East,

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't announced any kind of a retaliatory strike that we

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<v Speaker 1>know of on the targets in Iran since late July.

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<v Speaker 1>The us as I mentioned is continue to prevent ships

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<v Speaker 1>from visiting Irani imports, however, including firing hell fire missiles

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<v Speaker 1>to stop vessels trying to breach the blockade, because there

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<v Speaker 1>certainly has been that. The strategy right now is to

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<v Speaker 1>back off military action in favor of tightening the economic

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<v Speaker 1>pressure on Tehran. But we'll see, because remember earlier in

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<v Speaker 1>the summer of the US launched punishing strikes after Iran

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<v Speaker 1>tacked attacked ships, and then that prompted Iran to lob

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<v Speaker 1>missiles and drones across the gulf. So pretty much we're

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<v Speaker 1>seeing the same thing, tightening the economic screws. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know how long that's going to last before there's

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<v Speaker 1>some other kind of before there's some other kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of of movement. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Meanwhile, really strange, a couple of really strange things. One

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<v Speaker 1>was this squid. Twenty tons of squid spilled when a

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<v Speaker 1>tractor trailer was trying to make a turn and it

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately spilled over so that on that highway it had

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<v Speaker 1>to be closed for eight hours. It happened at nine

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<v Speaker 1>thirty in the morning and was not opened, was not

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<v Speaker 1>reopened until five fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>But you, Thak, I got to.

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<v Speaker 1>Think about twenty tons of squid and what that would

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<v Speaker 1>be like on a portion of a big portion of

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<v Speaker 1>the highway, and the driver was cited for fail to

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<v Speaker 1>secure a load by the Rhode Island State Police. Nobody

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<v Speaker 1>was injured. That's certainly the very very good news there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a really strange, strange, strange, strange range thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Zz Top's drummer died. He's some of that was very familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>I think to a lot of people that were fans

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<v Speaker 1>of zz Top, I would count myself as one of those.

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Beard was part of that rock trio. He died

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<v Speaker 1>at his ranch in Richmond, Texas, with his family members

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<v Speaker 1>at his side. No cause of death was given. Seventy

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<v Speaker 1>seven years old. Rip to an incredible, incredible drummer for

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<v Speaker 1>that group. I mean, it's interesting because he's been with

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<v Speaker 1>them since nineteen sixty nine when that band was called

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<v Speaker 1>the Moving Sidewalks and then they flipped their name. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean he had some he's had some signature moves, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, you know, with some of the big songs

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<v Speaker 1>for zz Top, and since I saw them, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say they put on a really really, really good

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<v Speaker 1>show and of course inducted into the Rock and Roll

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<v Speaker 1>Hall Hall of Fame in two thousand and four. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>He struggled with substance abuse early in the band's history

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<v Speaker 1>before checking himself into rehab in the nineteen eighties, but

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<v Speaker 1>again ripped to Frank Beard at the group ZZ top.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, coming up next, it's all about sports. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>check in on training camps. Who's in danger now because

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<v Speaker 1>it just seems like we've had a lot of injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>that's for sure. And then major League Baseball there's always

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<v Speaker 1>some incredible highlights and Tuesday was no different. We're going

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<v Speaker 1>to hit that up coming up on the Flip with

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<v Speaker 1>me Kate Delaney here on America Tonight.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to the man Cave, going to the mar Cave,

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<v Speaker 5>going to the mar Cave. I'm going to the man cave.

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<v Speaker 1>In the man cave, boy, there is always a ton

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<v Speaker 1>to get to. I say that I feel like every

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<v Speaker 2>Because maybe I do.

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<v Speaker 1>So here's one for you. Can you imagine being this guy?

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<v Speaker 1>I met him once, super nice But ESPN co founder

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Rasmussen dies at ninety three from the effects of

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<v Speaker 1>Parkinson's disease. When you think of where it all started,

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<v Speaker 1>he co founded the TV sports Giant. He hatched the

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<v Speaker 1>idea for the first all sports cable network with his son.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you talk about history, wow, I mean just

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<v Speaker 1>having that vision and coming up with the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a network carrying sports around the clock. I mean it relutionized.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's face it, TV watching habits, right, and it's interesting

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<v Speaker 1>they were forced out though only a year, after only

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<v Speaker 1>a year, by ESPN majority owner Getty Oil. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, that's what it was. And Rasmussen's original idea

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<v Speaker 1>was a cable channel covering only Connecticut sports, but many

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<v Speaker 1>cable operators in the state were skeptical, and so someone

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<v Speaker 1>suggested buying satellite time to reach a national audience, and

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<v Speaker 1>oh boy, oh boy. The rest was history right after,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, after that? All right, Meanwhile, when we jump

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<v Speaker 1>to what's happening in training camps, every time I look,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly every time I look and I checked, like the

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<v Speaker 1>When I first saw this, I thought I caught a

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<v Speaker 1>Brewers destroyed the marriage. When I say destroyed, and this

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<v Speaker 2>If I was a fan, I wouldn't have left. I

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty two nothing, Yeah, twenty two two zip. So they

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<v Speaker 1>match baseball's modern era record for the biggest shutout. And

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<v Speaker 1>I mean the Mariners could get nothing done. They just

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<v Speaker 1>They matched a franchise record for runs in a game

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<v Speaker 1>since nineteen oh won. The only previous twenty two ZIP

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, just when you come out of that game,

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<v Speaker 1>So Pete crow Armstrong makes MLB history the leadoff home

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<v Speaker 1>his thirty first for the second straight game in six

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<v Speaker 1>time this season. How about that. He's a fun player too.

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<v Speaker 1>And for the Cubs they pick up their seventy fourth

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<v Speaker 1>win too, So that's pretty significant. Hey, Twins fans, wake up,

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<v Speaker 2>I like it?

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<v Speaker 1>Point at it, Josh Bell, he had a two run

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<v Speaker 1>his seventeenth homer of the year went flying over the

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<v Speaker 1>sucker right from the start. Get some runs right in

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<v Speaker 1>the beginning of this thing. So pretty significant, Pretty significant there,

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<v Speaker 1>Guardians beat the Giants eight one. The Phillies pick up

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<v Speaker 1>number sixty nine. Zach Wheeler, how about you won the

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<v Speaker 1>seven strikeouts four walks in that one. For the Phillies,

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<v Speaker 1>they like it, they need that. The Yankees beat the

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<v Speaker 1>Orioles out of camping Yards three one. Pirates pick up

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<v Speaker 1>number sixty two by beating the Tigers. There's pretty decent

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<v Speaker 1>rivalry or history there, certainly with that team that goes

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<v Speaker 1>back a little ways. But Braxton Ashcroft allowed five hits

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<v Speaker 1>from the injured list. So for the Pirates, that was

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<v Speaker 1>a nice, nice win for them to pick that up.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Detroit's in a tight race with a

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<v Speaker 1>They've lost four out of five. So the series wraps

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<v Speaker 1>possibly pull off. Blue Jays knocking off the Rays, that's

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Smith and Alejandro Kirk also homered. So for the Jays,

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<v Speaker 1>The Blue Jays have won thirteen of their last nineteen games.

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<v Speaker 1>Red Sox out at Fenway nine to four the final

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<v Speaker 1>nine to four Royals beat the A's four to three,

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<v Speaker 1>the couple of them. The Rangers blanked the Nationals out

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<v Speaker 1>knocked off the Nationals. So it's a four hundred foot

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<v Speaker 1>It's not about home runs and records now, it's about

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<v Speaker 1>something completely different. It's about influence. Big Mama. Part of

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<v Speaker 1>the discussion that we're going to have an author's Corner

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<v Speaker 1>and a really intriguing book that's written like a novel

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<v Speaker 1>that addresses all kinds of things, including grief. That's coming

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<v Speaker 1>up round the bend with me Kate Delaney.

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<v Speaker 2>On the Show of Coner.

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<v Speaker 8>She asked of.

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<v Speaker 1>Doctor paulot Ola, Sogi joins us, and she's got amazing book,

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<v Speaker 1>Death in the Values The Big Family Lie, a thuriller

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<v Speaker 1>about the life and death of Big Mama. We had

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<v Speaker 1>an incredible off air conversation and so I'm really pleased

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<v Speaker 1>to introduce her here on Author's Corner with me Kat's

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<v Speaker 1>Laney on America Tonight. Thank you so much for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on the shelf.

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<v Speaker 10>I'm so glad to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>So the question that people always want to know and

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<v Speaker 1>are always curious about is what made you write this

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<v Speaker 1>to write?

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<v Speaker 10>Well, when I first started writing it, it was at

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<v Speaker 10>the end of a book. I was writing for a conference.

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<v Speaker 10>And sometimes when I do conferences, people will ask me

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<v Speaker 10>to write a book because they'll have like a book circle,

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<v Speaker 10>a book club. And I wrote a book that will

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<v Speaker 10>call Lost in the Loss, and it was dealing with grief.

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<v Speaker 10>And that book almost like devastated me. So I realized

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<v Speaker 10>that I had some unresolved issues around grief that.

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<v Speaker 9>I had not dealt with.

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<v Speaker 10>And so by the time I finished that book, I

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<v Speaker 10>realized it had something to do with my grandmother's death.

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<v Speaker 10>And so I started on this book as a healing

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<v Speaker 10>journey for myself, but I felt like it could help

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and Big Mama really was the head of the family, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And when you take the head of the family away

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<v Speaker 1>and you deal with the funeral and you deal with

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<v Speaker 1>the conversations, but then suddenly you go back to everyday life,

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<v Speaker 1>it really becomes tough, right.

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<v Speaker 10>It really does. And a lot of times people look

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<v Speaker 10>to who they consider the strongest person in the family.

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<v Speaker 10>And so you start going to the funeral homes and

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<v Speaker 10>you start picking up death certificates and dealing with a

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<v Speaker 10>lot of stuff, but you never deal with the issue

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<v Speaker 10>of how Big Mama affected you when she was alive,

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<v Speaker 10>and now that she's gone, you've lost a very important

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<v Speaker 10>chapter in your life. Now, when you think it's all over,

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<v Speaker 9>On with their life.

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<v Speaker 1>And what was Big Mama like.

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<v Speaker 10>Big Mama was not only the head of our family,

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<v Speaker 10>but Big Mama was the head of almost every family

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<v Speaker 10>in the community. People came to her when they had

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<v Speaker 10>medical issues, financial issues, kids issues, everything, and Big Mama

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<v Speaker 10>was there. So you could not walk in with a

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<v Speaker 10>need and walk out with some kind of answer. You

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<v Speaker 10>couldn't be hungry, and she wouldn't send food home for

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<v Speaker 10>you to cook as well as off of you a meal.

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<v Speaker 10>So she was the one. She was very spiritual, very

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<v Speaker 10>very spiritual, So that's where the spiritual side came in,

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<v Speaker 10>and it was almost like she kept me close to

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<v Speaker 10>her dress tail and when other people in the other

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<v Speaker 10>kids in the family would go please, So she would say, no,

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<v Speaker 10>you can't go because you're different. She never would tell

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<v Speaker 10>me why I was different, but she would always teach

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<v Speaker 10>me things. So I learned a lot of stuff from her,

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<v Speaker 10>and she was a great teacher. But she was a

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and your book is so interesting. You talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Family lie, and we don't want to tell

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<v Speaker 1>everyone everything because this book will really grab you and

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<v Speaker 1>you want to read this. You can get it for

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<v Speaker 1>a song in Amazon or or Barnes and Noble. But

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<v Speaker 1>what tell us a little bit about the Big Family lie?

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<v Speaker 10>Well in the story, And like I said, I don't

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<v Speaker 8>But it was like when.

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<v Speaker 10>Big Mama dies, because of her status in the community,

425
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<v Speaker 10>nobody wanted the truth to be told about how she died.

426
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<v Speaker 10>So then they created, fabricated this lie and weaved it

427
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<v Speaker 10>through the family and weaved it through the community. And

428
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<v Speaker 10>so the young lady in the story had to keep

429
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<v Speaker 10>rehearsing it because she knew that was not the way

430
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<v Speaker 10>it really happened. But to keep the status, to keep

431
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<v Speaker 10>people looking at the family as who they were, they

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<v Speaker 10>would not tell how Big Mama really died and Big

433
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<v Speaker 10>Mama really didn't do anything wrong. They were really covering

434
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<v Speaker 10>for somebody else, their family image. And I wanted it

435
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<v Speaker 10>to be like a self help book as well as

436
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<v Speaker 10>a thriller. And because I've been writing for so long,

437
00:27:02.400 --> 00:27:05.279
<v Speaker 10>I've been writing since I was a kid, I wanted

438
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<v Speaker 10>to weave in certain areas of help. And I've always

439
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<v Speaker 10>gone into help ministries and help life stories and stuff

440
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.359
<v Speaker 10>like that. So I write books that's going to help

441
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<v Speaker 10>people to read but come out of been learning something

442
00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:20.240
<v Speaker 10>that's going to be able to be applied to their life.

443
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<v Speaker 10>So I dealt with grief.

444
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<v Speaker 13>I dealt with the stages of grief.

445
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<v Speaker 10>And how one can come out. I dealt with unforgiveness.

446
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<v Speaker 10>I dealt with all of that in the book, because

447
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<v Speaker 10>even though it's a thriller, it's going to help you

448
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<v Speaker 10>come out and deal with some of the issues in

449
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<v Speaker 10>your personal life.

450
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and E've been writing since you were a kid.

451
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<v Speaker 1>When you and I talked, what did you tell me?

452
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<v Speaker 1>It was something crazy like forty five books.

453
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<v Speaker 13>Forty five books.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, And I finally finished my children's books since I've

455
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<v Speaker 10>been here, you know, mos sabbatical. So I finished my

456
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<v Speaker 10>children's book the Shoe that Would Not Go. I was

457
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<v Speaker 10>like a little kid in here laughing as I wrote

458
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<v Speaker 10>the pages of that book as well. So I had

459
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<v Speaker 10>fun with that one.

460
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<v Speaker 1>We can't wait to hear more about that. Let's talk

461
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<v Speaker 1>still more about death and the body. So with this book,

462
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<v Speaker 1>what do you hope people take away? You know, I

463
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<v Speaker 1>read the book. Other people listening to us, they read

464
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<v Speaker 1>the book, they're curious, they get it yay. And when

465
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<v Speaker 1>they read it, what do you hope The big takeaway is?

466
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<v Speaker 10>I hope that people will walk away knowing that something

467
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.079
<v Speaker 10>may happen in your life that may cause a pause,

468
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<v Speaker 10>but it doesn't need to make you stop and not

469
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<v Speaker 10>be able to move, even if it's a death or

470
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<v Speaker 10>the loss of a family member, whether they walk away

471
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<v Speaker 10>from a friendship, a loss of a pet. If someone

472
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<v Speaker 10>walks away, life does not stop. Their life ends in

473
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<v Speaker 10>a way, but the memories cause them to live on forever.

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<v Speaker 10>And because of what you can grab from the past

475
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<v Speaker 10>or what you learn from them, they stay alive within

476
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<v Speaker 10>your life. They stay alive within the things that you do.

477
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<v Speaker 10>And in spite of the fact that Big Mama is gone,

478
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<v Speaker 10>every time I write something, she shows up somewhere and

479
00:28:58.000 --> 00:29:00.920
<v Speaker 10>something that I write, something that I teach. And so

480
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<v Speaker 10>in this book, I'm hoping that when they get through

481
00:29:03.319 --> 00:29:07.559
<v Speaker 10>reading it, they'll go through the grieving process, which is normal.

482
00:29:08.160 --> 00:29:10.839
<v Speaker 10>Some processes last longer than others. And we're going to

483
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<v Speaker 10>give you a chance to go through however long it takes.

484
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<v Speaker 10>But you don't have to die yourself in the process.

485
00:29:17.079 --> 00:29:19.799
<v Speaker 10>You can come out better because you'll go back remembering

486
00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:22.319
<v Speaker 10>the bad things, but you're going to remember little words

487
00:29:22.319 --> 00:29:25.279
<v Speaker 10>that people said to you, Little things that Grandma said,

488
00:29:25.440 --> 00:29:28.640
<v Speaker 10>you know, to her grandchildren that they can even say

489
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<v Speaker 10>not And a lot of times you'll be sitting down

490
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<v Speaker 10>and saying, oh, I remember Mama said. One of the

491
00:29:32.759 --> 00:29:36.359
<v Speaker 10>things she said, don't cry over things that can heal. Well,

492
00:29:36.480 --> 00:29:38.680
<v Speaker 10>we may cry, but we don't have to linger in

493
00:29:38.799 --> 00:29:41.920
<v Speaker 10>the grief because we know that maybe next year this

494
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:43.759
<v Speaker 10>time you're gonna think about that same thing and laugh

495
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<v Speaker 10>about it.

496
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<v Speaker 13>So she will tell you just little little.

497
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<v Speaker 10>Things that we can pull from it. And I hope

498
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:52.319
<v Speaker 10>that the people will be able to pull those things.

499
00:29:52.319 --> 00:29:55.359
<v Speaker 10>And the main thing I remember Grandma is saying was

500
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<v Speaker 10>truth may cost you, but lies will bankrupt your soul.

501
00:30:01.799 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 10>And every time you think about that, it's like people

502
00:30:04.200 --> 00:30:06.480
<v Speaker 10>have to keep covering a lie and covering a lie

503
00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:09.000
<v Speaker 10>and remembering the last lie they told. But when you

504
00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.519
<v Speaker 10>tell the truth, it's almost like a freedom. And I

505
00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.079
<v Speaker 10>know you can't tell everything, but you don't have to

506
00:30:14.119 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 10>keep building lie upon lie upon life because that will

507
00:30:17.519 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 10>bankrupt your soul.

508
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I mean she's alive in that. Just the hashtag

509
00:30:22.960 --> 00:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>lies will bankrupt your soul. I hope everyone hears that.

510
00:30:26.200 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 1>And it's tough, right because we classify our lies like

511
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<v Speaker 1>a little white lie.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my dad, And.

513
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<v Speaker 1>Then you're right, because then you forget and then something

514
00:30:35.839 --> 00:30:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that maybe was nothing becomes bigger. So big Mama nailed it.

515
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<v Speaker 8>Right, right right.

516
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<v Speaker 10>I remember she used to say, uh, don't let one

517
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<v Speaker 10>bad chep to write your home or your entire book.

518
00:30:47.440 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 10>So you may have had a bad day, but that

519
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:51.599
<v Speaker 10>doesn't mean you're going to have a bad week. You

520
00:30:51.680 --> 00:30:53.400
<v Speaker 10>may have had a bad week, but it doesn't mean

521
00:30:53.400 --> 00:30:55.359
<v Speaker 10>you're going to have a bad month. This might not

522
00:30:55.400 --> 00:30:57.359
<v Speaker 10>have been a pretty good year, but the next five

523
00:30:57.440 --> 00:31:00.599
<v Speaker 10>years might be great. So I learned learn from the

524
00:31:00.680 --> 00:31:03.200
<v Speaker 10>older things, and I learned from the things that were

525
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.759
<v Speaker 10>not really so good. But then when you begin to

526
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:07.799
<v Speaker 10>build on it, and you can begin to see I

527
00:31:07.920 --> 00:31:11.240
<v Speaker 10>learned something from that, though I'm going to forgive you,

528
00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.000
<v Speaker 10>but I learned something from that. So now you've got

529
00:31:14.000 --> 00:31:16.400
<v Speaker 10>something else to build on. So I'm hoping that people

530
00:31:16.400 --> 00:31:18.680
<v Speaker 10>will read the book. They'll find things that they can

531
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<v Speaker 10>build on. Things that may been crying over for years

532
00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:23.680
<v Speaker 10>they can now go back and laugh at. And I know,

533
00:31:23.880 --> 00:31:26.079
<v Speaker 10>like for the first couple of holidays after her death,

534
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:28.200
<v Speaker 10>it was like we could not have a good Thanksgiving

535
00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:31.000
<v Speaker 10>or Christmas. Now we laugh about it. And now that

536
00:31:31.039 --> 00:31:33.319
<v Speaker 10>we do videos, now we didn't do it back then.

537
00:31:33.599 --> 00:31:35.799
<v Speaker 10>We do videos. We'll show some of the videos of

538
00:31:35.839 --> 00:31:38.000
<v Speaker 10>some of our loved ones that die. And my family

539
00:31:38.079 --> 00:31:40.680
<v Speaker 10>have longevity, so they live to be about one hundred

540
00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:43.319
<v Speaker 10>hundred two, one hundred and four or five, you know,

541
00:31:43.519 --> 00:31:45.440
<v Speaker 10>and so we can go back and look at some

542
00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.400
<v Speaker 10>of these people and go, wow, But a year before

543
00:31:48.440 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 10>we were still crying.

544
00:31:50.079 --> 00:31:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what a great blessing that is. You know, as

545
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>you said, you're on sabbatical and you're a life coach,

546
00:31:55.240 --> 00:31:59.200
<v Speaker 1>and what a wonderful thing that's perfect for your personality

547
00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:01.720
<v Speaker 1>and the way you can reach and touch people and

548
00:32:02.079 --> 00:32:05.880
<v Speaker 1>now children this with the book about the shoe tell

549
00:32:05.960 --> 00:32:08.240
<v Speaker 1>us a little bit about that. Once that comes out,

550
00:32:08.240 --> 00:32:11.599
<v Speaker 1>I think it's fascinating. I've never heard anything like this.

551
00:32:12.720 --> 00:32:15.000
<v Speaker 10>Well, I was sitting at my dinner table and I

552
00:32:15.039 --> 00:32:17.720
<v Speaker 10>was just thinking, and I started, I have a little cousin.

553
00:32:17.839 --> 00:32:22.759
<v Speaker 10>He's about I think he's five now, and he has autism,

554
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:25.160
<v Speaker 10>and I would keep him. So that's why I became

555
00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.319
<v Speaker 10>an autism coach, because I would keep him and try

556
00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:30.759
<v Speaker 10>to help him. And he's nonverbal, and I would show

557
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:32.720
<v Speaker 10>him little things and he would point out what he

558
00:32:32.759 --> 00:32:35.000
<v Speaker 10>wanted me to do. So I was thinking about him

559
00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:38.079
<v Speaker 10>when I wrote the book. And so in my mind

560
00:32:38.119 --> 00:32:40.400
<v Speaker 10>I saw this closet full of shoes, and there was

561
00:32:40.440 --> 00:32:43.720
<v Speaker 10>always this little purple shoe that wouldn't go but so far.

562
00:32:44.759 --> 00:32:47.079
<v Speaker 10>And so the other shoes would go out and come

563
00:32:47.119 --> 00:32:48.920
<v Speaker 10>back and tell them what a great time they had.

564
00:32:48.920 --> 00:32:51.240
<v Speaker 10>But the little purple shoe always said, I can't go

565
00:32:51.279 --> 00:32:54.079
<v Speaker 10>but this far. I can't go but this far, And

566
00:32:54.160 --> 00:32:57.000
<v Speaker 10>so they kept encouraging to go back and come back

567
00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.200
<v Speaker 10>and tell the story. So I had the little purple

568
00:32:59.200 --> 00:33:01.400
<v Speaker 10>shoe to step out of the closet one day saw

569
00:33:01.440 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 10>his shadow and got scared and wanted to go back.

570
00:33:03.400 --> 00:33:07.079
<v Speaker 10>In and one of the shoes said, that is not

571
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<v Speaker 10>anything to be afraid of. That is your courage. I

572
00:33:11.799 --> 00:33:14.559
<v Speaker 10>see that shadow every time I go out hunting and

573
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:17.720
<v Speaker 10>the sun is shining inside you. It's a shadow, but

574
00:33:17.759 --> 00:33:21.240
<v Speaker 10>it's called courage. And every time you see that shadow

575
00:33:21.240 --> 00:33:23.640
<v Speaker 10>when you walk out, you know that you've got courage.

576
00:33:24.359 --> 00:33:26.640
<v Speaker 10>That's something special that dwells on the inside of you.

577
00:33:26.759 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 10>And that thing just let me up. So I decided

578
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:31.319
<v Speaker 10>to write about it like that, and I wanted to

579
00:33:31.359 --> 00:33:32.480
<v Speaker 10>dedicate that book to him.

580
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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, I can't wait for that one, and what

581
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<v Speaker 1>a great gift that will be. Doctor Paul let Alisoji,

582
00:33:39.039 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for coming on Death and the Values.

583
00:33:41.599 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>The Big Family Lay, a thriller about life and death

584
00:33:44.039 --> 00:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>of Big Mama.

585
00:33:44.759 --> 00:33:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Go get it.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, I was so happy when I found out I

587
00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:52.160
<v Speaker 10>was going to be talking to you, and I'm honored

588
00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:54.599
<v Speaker 10>first of all that you even allowed me to be

589
00:33:54.640 --> 00:33:57.720
<v Speaker 10>on your show. So I was really grateful to you,

590
00:33:57.960 --> 00:34:02.039
<v Speaker 10>and I invite everybody to go out and get this book.

591
00:34:02.119 --> 00:34:04.240
<v Speaker 10>I read it again. I told you the last time.

592
00:34:04.279 --> 00:34:07.000
<v Speaker 10>I read it again because somebody wanted to do it

593
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.159
<v Speaker 10>at a conference and at first I said, well, this

594
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<v Speaker 10>is a church conference. I don't think this is going

595
00:34:10.840 --> 00:34:13.039
<v Speaker 10>to be good, but when I looked at the message

596
00:34:13.239 --> 00:34:15.960
<v Speaker 10>that it gave in the book, I said do it

597
00:34:16.679 --> 00:34:18.880
<v Speaker 10>and they say yay. So I'm going to go to

598
00:34:18.920 --> 00:34:21.320
<v Speaker 10>that conference as well. So I'll be presenting as a

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00:34:21.360 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 10>part of the book club. And I want to tell

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<v Speaker 10>you find those things that you know that's been a

601
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<v Speaker 10>life lesson and share it with somebody else so they'll

602
00:34:30.440 --> 00:34:32.800
<v Speaker 10>have a reason to move forward and not backwards.

603
00:34:33.440 --> 00:34:35.360
<v Speaker 1>What a great message of perfect place, henis.

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<v Speaker 2>That is right.

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<v Speaker 7>and the healthcare a buility?

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<v Speaker 2>We've had him before. He's one of my favorite people.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the way he speaks, and the way he

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<v Speaker 1>writes is the way he speaks, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>a sign of a great storyteller. His name is George Mills,

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<v Speaker 1>and he joins us here again on Author's Corner on

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<v Speaker 1>America Tonight with me Kate Delaney and this book, Clay's

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<v Speaker 1>Battle Between True Love and Lust. Oh, George, it's so

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<v Speaker 1>good to have you back on.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you for having me, ma'am.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about this adventure and this is another

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<v Speaker 1>unique one. Tell us about what happens here.

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<v Speaker 2>How'd you come up with this? And tell us more

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<v Speaker 2>about the story.

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<v Speaker 8>Well, you know, I've written several books and the Battle

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<v Speaker 8>between True Love and Lust it was ideal that came

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<v Speaker 8>to me when I was writing Clay's in the Dreams.

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<v Speaker 8>I wanted to find out what the difference was between

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<v Speaker 8>true love and lust. I could go on through a

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<v Speaker 8>divorce fifteen well you know, about eleven, twelve years ago, and.

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<v Speaker 13>That's what.

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<v Speaker 8>Started me writing all of the books that I have written,

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<v Speaker 8>was the fact that I went to the divorce, but

688
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<v Speaker 8>plays in this dream really gave me an insight to

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<v Speaker 8>search out what's the difference between true love and lust?

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<v Speaker 8>And as that's one of the answers that This is

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<v Speaker 8>one of the answers that I gave mister Nick on

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<v Speaker 8>this questionnaire as I set out to see if I

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<v Speaker 8>could find the answer to that question, what is the

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<v Speaker 8>difference between true love and lust? And I asked several

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<v Speaker 8>friends what their input would be, and all of them

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<v Speaker 8>was different except for one answer, and that answer was,

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<v Speaker 8>read your Holy Bible, reading God's word, you will find

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<v Speaker 8>what the meaning of true love really is all about.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that that. That's the one area where you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to because, as you know, and you expressed

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<v Speaker 1>this in the other books, it's really tough going through divorce.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of get blindsided, don't you.

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<v Speaker 8>You do. And it was really tough on me because

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<v Speaker 8>it was today, that my birthday, when she confronted me

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<v Speaker 8>that she no longer was in love. So to me,

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<v Speaker 8>what is the difference between true love and us? To me,

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<v Speaker 8>it was true love. And that's one of the things

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<v Speaker 8>that I've struggled with here lately. And that's what also

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<v Speaker 8>inspired me to write a book What Is Love and

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<v Speaker 8>What's Lush? We meet people, and as I discussed is

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<v Speaker 8>in the book with one of my characters, he goes

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<v Speaker 8>into a long background that that's what the purpose was

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<v Speaker 8>was for us to repopulate the earth. And we have

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<v Speaker 8>that mentality of seeking out the person that we feel

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<v Speaker 8>would give us a strong offspring, you know, to carry

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<v Speaker 8>on the genes that we have had in our lives.

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<v Speaker 1>That makes sense, It does make sense, and that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it's interesting that you and your friends had a few

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<v Speaker 1>different answers, and in this book that's the idea. Clay

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<v Speaker 1>wants to get an understanding of what true love is

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<v Speaker 1>all about because of being stunned about being all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden going through a divorce after twenty five years

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<v Speaker 1>and now finding himself in that situation of wow, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you do and what do you encounter when you're

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<v Speaker 1>alone and along the way, and you really have some

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<v Speaker 1>clever things that you write about in the book. Because

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<v Speaker 1>life becomes different, right it.

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<v Speaker 8>Does, and it's for me. It gave me that what

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<v Speaker 8>is the difference between true loving us? I want to know,

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<v Speaker 8>you know what likes that animal instinct kick in and

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<v Speaker 8>the only way you can find the answer is going

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<v Speaker 8>through the Bible, God's words and everything and seeking it out.

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<v Speaker 8>He said, ask and it shall be giving. And if

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<v Speaker 8>you seek the answer, you will find it. And I

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<v Speaker 8>hope I found it. Yes, other stuffcoming, Look, Clay finding

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<v Speaker 8>sighs is true love.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm, which is great, you know, knowing and learning the

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<v Speaker 1>difference between true love and lust and then finding that

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<v Speaker 1>true love. So you think you can find true love

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<v Speaker 1>even when you thought you had it and lost it,

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<v Speaker 1>and no matter what age.

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<v Speaker 8>Right, right, that's true. You can't you can't even stop learning,

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<v Speaker 8>I guess you can say.

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<v Speaker 2>And not stopping and learning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's part of the that's part of Clay's mindset is that, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now I have to dust myself off. I've got I've

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<v Speaker 1>got these new found friends, and I've got to go

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<v Speaker 1>on these different adventures and encounter different things along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what happens in this there's even some kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I guess heated arguments. There's some back and forth

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<v Speaker 1>a few times in the book.

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<v Speaker 13>Right, yes, ma'am, And those are my way of saying, you.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, it's funny how each other us have our own

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<v Speaker 8>opinion on what we see as true love and this

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<v Speaker 8>it's definitely a challenge trying to figure out, Okay, is

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<v Speaker 8>this person being sincere about their answer or are they

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<v Speaker 8>just telling me something other yes, to get me to

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<v Speaker 8>go on about my business they didn't sell. Don't know

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<v Speaker 8>for sure, like the answer could.

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<v Speaker 1>Be yeah, it's the great mystery, that's for sure. And

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<v Speaker 1>also in this book, I want to make sure people

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<v Speaker 1>know Clay's battle between true love and lust is very

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<v Speaker 1>clever and very funny, just like George is.

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<v Speaker 2>George.

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<v Speaker 1>You are clever, and you do have this way of

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<v Speaker 1>speaking and writing the same way which you can get

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<v Speaker 1>this book and all of his books on Amazon, Barnes,

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<v Speaker 1>Noble for a song, paperback or kindle. However you want

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<v Speaker 1>to consume it, so you always weave humor in there.

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<v Speaker 1>You find a way to make it funny, don't you.

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<v Speaker 8>Yes, ma'am. And that's one of the takeaway is I

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<v Speaker 8>want him to enjoy, but at the same time take

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<v Speaker 8>its sears about before they jump into holy maxwell, because

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<v Speaker 8>that is a holy natal money that God created for

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<v Speaker 8>man and woman, as they did for Adam and Eve.

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<v Speaker 8>It's serious and like you said earlier, you go through

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<v Speaker 8>a divorce after that many years, it really destroys you

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<v Speaker 8>to the point that you got to find an answer

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<v Speaker 8>to that question was it love or was it lost?

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<v Speaker 8>And I've had a few friends that's going through a

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<v Speaker 8>divorce and I don't know, I hadn't talked to them

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<v Speaker 8>about their experience with it. But for me, it was

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<v Speaker 8>definitely a knockout blow that I had to bounce back from.

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<v Speaker 1>I love what you said there that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>takeaways is you want people to enjoy the book has

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<v Speaker 1>humorous nuggets in it, but you want them to realize

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<v Speaker 1>to be careful when you jump in.

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<v Speaker 8>Right. That's great because, like I said, that is a

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<v Speaker 8>holy matrimony that is meant to be for life, and

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<v Speaker 8>life is too short to not be with the person

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<v Speaker 8>that God has created for you. And that's another thing

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<v Speaker 8>that I talk about is searching for that soul mate.

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<v Speaker 8>God has created each and every one of us a

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<v Speaker 8>perfect soul mate. And just because you see that one

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<v Speaker 8>that you think can produce you a good off strain

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<v Speaker 8>is not necessarily the one that He created for you.

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<v Speaker 8>He let us make our own minds up. And that's

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<v Speaker 8>one of the other things, the choices that we make.

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<v Speaker 8>We gotta be careful with them because it's clat and

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<v Speaker 8>death situation. If that's a proper way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>It is, and it makes complete sense. And again I

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<v Speaker 1>think you have just a great way of speaking and

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<v Speaker 1>a great way of pulling it all together. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is a good read, my friends, as your other books

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<v Speaker 1>are too as well. And it's always fun to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you. George Mills, thank you so much for coming

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<v Speaker 1>on the show.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you, ma'am for having man. I appreciate it.
