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your support. Last hour went over the indictment of Jim Comey,
talked a little bit about Andrew McCabe's role in that
as well. But there's another angle to this, allow me
to elaborate. This is from the National Review piece by
Britney Bernstein or Stein Bernstein, probably Bernstein. The charges because
Jim Comey was indicted on an obstruction of justice charge
as well as a percharge for lying to Congress back
in twenty twenty. The charges also center in part on
in October twenty sixteen New York Times story, the headline
was investigating Donald Trump, FBI sees no clear link to Russia.
The Times article was a response to reporting in Slate,
a leftist publication that had said Trump established a communications
back channel with the Kremlin involving servers at Trump Tower
in Manhattan and Alpha Bank, one of Russia's largest financial institutions.
You remember this story. This was a hoax from the
very beginning. This was Democrat Party oppo smears that was
laundered through the intelligence community by allies in the IC.
Slate runs the article Hours after the the article is published,
The New York Times report related to the FBI conclusion
that the back channel claim was unfounded. The report also
detailed that the bureau's counter intelligence investigation of Russia's malign
activities in connection with the twenty sixteen campaign were not
linked to Trump and his campaign. Special Council John Durham
probed the leaks to The New York Times in connection
with this story. They investigated as unauthorized public disclosure or UPD,
or as I call it UPED, the yuped of classified
information unauthorized public disclosure of classified information. The February twenty
twenty closing memo for the probe by John Durham that
was obtained by Catherine Herridge, national security correspondent veteran journalist,
and the memo found there were two major government sources
for the New York Times story. They were James Baker,
who was the FBI's general counsel and a close advisor
to Comy, as well as the FBI's chief of Staff,
James Rybicki. Baker told the investigators at the time that
he was quote under the belief that he was ultimately
instructed and authorized to provide information to The New York
Times by then FBI Director James Comy Okay, so he
was under the belief that he was instructed and authorized.
Baker did not claim that Comy ever, gave him a
direct order though. See, because these guys are smart, they're
not going to directly say this. They're not going to
instruct you verbatim explicitly, but the message gets communicated and
is received. As Baker said to the investigators, that he
was under the belief that he was instructed and authorized
to provide the leak, hence why he did it. So
that's part of it too. So when Comy goes in
and says to Congress, I never authorized any leaks, I
never say anything like, is he trying to kind of
walk this line by saying I didn't explicitly say it
that way, but everybody knew what I meant. This is
from David Strom at hotair dot com. He says, first
things first, James Comy is a lying, disgusting, unethical, terrible, horrible,
no good, very bad man. Even worse, he violated his
oath and his ethical obligations to the constant and the
country out of political spite, helping orchestrate a hoax that
tore the country apart, and personally directing the destruction of
a good man, General Mike Flynn in a way that
even he knew was unprecedented, unethical, and over the objections
of the very agents he had assigned to investigate Flynn.
He broke countless laws to further his efforts, and as
profited handsomely in doing so. By the way, all you
Democrats that blamed Jim Comey for Hillary's loss in twenty sixteen,
which is not true, by the way, But and by
the way, he also went around protocol and did a
bunch of shifting stuff with that investigation too. But remember
he laid out all the evidence against Hillary Clinton, and
everybody's like, oh my gosh, they're going to indict Hillary Clinton.
And then he said, no reasonable prosecutor would indict which
was not true because the evidence was clear as to
what she had done and it was a violation of
the law. What she had done was moving classified material
through an unprotected, illegal private server. And again I always
say this whenever I mentioned Hillary Clinton's server. It's not
her emails. The emails lived on the server. The smoking
gun was the server. There isn't any other reason why
you would create a server except so you could delete
all the information off of it and have no record
of it after you do so. Otherwise, you would just
use a Gmail account or a Yahoo account or whatever,
probably AOL for her, but yeah, that's what you would use.
You would just use a regular email account. But the
problem there is that if anybody were to find out
that you have this email account, they would be able
to get an fo A Freedom of Information Act of
FOIA request and they would be able to get that.
And you know, Congress could subpoena Google or Yahoo or
whoever and get the data get your stuff off of
their servers, because they own those servers. But if you
own the server and you set up your own email
accounts through your own server, now you can use programs
like bleach bit like to wipe it like with a cloth, famously, right,
you can wipe that server and you can get rid
of all of the incriminating information that's on it, which
is precisely what she did. And then for good measure,
broke all of her cell phones with a hammer, just
to make sure that there wasn't any information that they
could retrieve. That was always the smoking gun, the existence
of the server itself. So all you folks that thought
Jim Comey was responsible for Hillary's loss, why wouldn't like,
why wouldn't you want Jim Comey indicted for lying to Congress?
Now all of a sudden, you love you some Jim Comey,
which is not true, by the way. And they're going
to try to say that they're occupying a moral high
ground by saying, well, we don't like Jim Comey, but
this is unprecedented. But again that's not true, because it
is it is precedented. Is that a word precedented? There
is precedent. It's over the last five years, like we've
seen all sorts of indictments against all these people inside
of Trump's orbit, and we know this to be true.
So like you guys don't get to say it's unprecedented
now you may object to your own rules and standards
being applied to you because you expect Republicans to be
better than you, which is quite the admission. Really, if
you think about it, like we know we suck, you
should be better than us. But this is what is
it from the book Doune I believe, and I forget
who said it. But when I live under your rules,
I demand mercy because those are your standards, right, But
when I have the power, then I demand vengeance because
those are my standards. Something like that. It's a it is,
you know, an inherent or dare I say, an institutional
or systemic double standard. I'm going to hold you to
a higher standard than I hold myself. And this is
why Republicans are done playing this game. They're just done.
Mega people, just done, specially maga folks. After you tried
to kill Donald Trump, after you tried to imprison him
for the rest of his life and bankrupt his companies
and his family, They're just done. So now they are.
You know, you brought the weapon to the fight. You've
been disarmed. The weapon lies on the ground, and now
you're begging them not to pick it up and use
it against you, and your cry for mercy is falling
on deaf fears. I don't know any of I don't
know anyway back. This is what has been alarming to me,
And this is what I've been saying for five years,
actually going back into the first Trump administration. I've been
saying this for a long time. He's like, this is
the pathway to ruin. But I understand why MAGA is
doing what they're doing. I understand the rationale, even if
I don't agree with all of the actions that they
take when they claim that that's the reason they're doing it.
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limited time offer. Tom Elliott, founder of Grabian News, points
out that Jim Comey indicted Martha Stewart and General Mike
Flynn for far less than what he's accused of, and
Comy's behavior is far worse since he was lying in
service of wiretapping the Trump campaign, the results of which
would be used to try to sway the twenty sixteen
election and later sabotage the first Trump administration. Hatching a
fake narrative to set the national security state against the
duly elected president is as scandalous as it gets. On
the text line, I do not know why a grown
man would be would be a swiftye saying about yeah,
bad breakups and stuff. I don't know. And then there's
this from a nonymous in South Carolina. What you just
told every independent voter is that conservatives don't have the
high moral standard that we have. First off, I'm not
sure I believe this person is in fact a conservative,
but whatever these are one of the tells that seminar
callers give, you know, lifelong Republican here, But now I'm
going to sound like a Democrat. I'm going to attack
Republicans and everything else. So maybe this person's never Trump.
I don't know what you've told independent voters is that
is that Conservatives don't have the moral or have the
high moral standard that we have bragged about for decades.
In fact, we are so easily defeated that we are
bound to follow the rules established by Democrats. We will
follow their lead without hesitation, even though we claim to
know better. We are incapable of leadership with integrity, and
it's the democrat's fault, all right, So let's go over this,
shall we. Conservatives don't have the high moral standard that
we have bragged about for decades. Yet this may come
as a shock, but politicians claim to have higher moral
standards than their political opponents all the time, all the time,
and some of them may and some of them may not.
And that has nothing to do with the D or
the R next to their name. That's an individual thing.
You either exhibit the moral standards or you do not.
Me recognizing where we are in America right now, doesn't
mean this is the standard that I would like to
see applied. I recognize, though, why people who have been
abused by their political opponents with law fare, with the deplatforming,
with the weaponization of the intelligence agencies, with the weaponization
of the courts and judicial system against them, I understand
why they seek justice because that is in fact what
the justice system is supposed to be there for. And
so you'll notice Jim Comey being indicted for lying to
Congress and obstruction. Those are not things that he's been
indicted for. I mean, those are not related to or
those are there are no direct charges. I'll say it
like that. There are no direct charges here for all
of his other behavior. It's just the line to Congress.
And that seems to me to be a perfectly reasonable
thing to indict somebody, because here's the deal. If you
lie to Congress, I want there to be a standard
that you will in fact be held to account for that,
because you should not lie to Congress. You should not
lie under oath, and you damn sure shouldn't be lying
if you're the head of the FBI under oath. So
you either set a standard here that if you're in
the intelligence community. If you're the leader of one of
these agencies that you can lie to Congress and suffer
no ramifications. If you would like that standard to obtain,
then that's fine. You could make that argument, anonymous, so
called conservative, you can make that argument. I'm not Now.
Maybe the evidence comes out that Jim Comey did not
lie to Congress and he gets acquitted. Okay, we'll see,
but right now seems like he did. We'll find out.
That's the point of the trial. He welcomes the trial too,
if he doesn't cut a deal, but we'll see, we
shall see. They then say, in fact, we are so
easily defeated that we are bound to follow the rules
established by Democrats. Well, here's the thing. I would argue
that conservatives are not quote so easily defeated. In fact,
I would submit that this has been a process that
has occurred over decades, decades of people not being held
responsible for lying to Congress for these kinds of machinations,
and if you allow it to persist, you will get
more of it. Do you want people in elected office
and people working in the bureaucracy to feel like they
can break the law with impunity. I do not, so
I would like to see people face the repercussions of
their decisions like this, And then the last line, we
will follow their lead without hesitation, even though we claim
to know better. I'm not sure nobody's claiming to know better. Again,
there was a precedent that was set under the last
administration that you can, in fact go and charge former presidents,
you can go after campaign workers, you can go after
government officials. That you can do all of that. And
that's not a moral play. That was sort of like
a gentleman's agreement kind of a thing that was abused.
It's been abused. And if you believe that the government
is well within its rights to go after the Trump
folks like they did, then you should believe that the
same standard should apply here. That's all because if the
government believes that these people in Trump's orbit violated the law,
that's why they went after them. Then Okay, there's ample
evidence that Jim Camy lied under oath, so you should
apply that same standard. This is why I suspect that
this is a seminar caller kind of a text. So
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we walk. A couple more messages from the text line.
I think this is Anne Yes who says, despite the
base wanting Trump to prosecute Hillary Clinton for having government
emails and classified information on our private server, he practiced restraint.
But after what happened under Mereck Garland against him, the
gloves are off right. See here's the thing for you
never trumpers, or for you, you know, people of the left, Democrats, media.
But I repeat myself, if you are trying to actually understand,
this is what you have to understand, if you need to,
if you're trying to actually understand the way Republicans are
reacting and the way MAGA is reacting, and why the
indictment on Cominalist, and why there is this animosity. There
is a long list, a long list of grievances the right,
particularly MAGA has been collecting grievances against you for a
very long time, and it predates MAGA, but it just
got it got ratcheted up under Trump. You're gonna hear
from Larry O'Connor in a in a minute, and he
goes over some of this stuff because it ties into
the violence that has been directed against Republicans and MAGA.
Let me see here, do uh fast and furious. Nobody
even showed up to lie. That's true, Pat quoting me,
says Pete. It's different when Democrats do it. This from Bill,
who says the people suggesting two wrongs don't don't make
a right falsely assume that the left will not engage
in law fare the moment that they can again, they
have already admitted that if they win back the House,
impeachment begins the next morning. Yeah. So MAGA is responding
to the signals you guys have been sending as well.
Why do we have to tell Congress the truth and testimony,
but Congress doesn't have to tell the American people the truth.
Two way streets always have better traffic than a one
way in a construction zone. This is all after the fact.
Who was call me serving when he got involved with
all this. I don't follow that under the belief my
butt did the manlight to Congress or not? Yes or no? Right,
That's what the point of the trial will be. John
from New Jersey says, we'll quoting Henry the Second Well.
No one ridden me of this meddlesome priest, one of
the earliest documented cases of plausible deniability. Glenn says Trump
should say this is the beginning of the revenge tour
expose the House of cards. As a loyal listener of
WBT Radio over a decade, I have now started to
communicate my opinions via text. Be prepared. My opinions will
be random, but will make WBT and your listeners laugh. Okay, now, Glenn,
let's not make any promises that we cannot deliver on.
I suggest Podesco full tilt on his political enemies and
double down. My son is six years old. He's an
awesome kid like me. He only responds and corrects his
behavior based on harsh consequences. Scott in Charlotte says the
whole plan in Trump's first term was to bankrupt members
of his administration with legal fees. A broke person is
easier to flip. At some point, they will say anything
to save their own hide with all the censorship going on.
This is from anonymous. Nobody ever mentions what happened to
Parlor and how it was put out of existence, though
it eventually did come back. Well, yeah, I mean they
literally put companies out of business, they debanked, they deplatformed,
right Google. Well here, let me just do this because
this comes up on Next Up with Mark Halpern on
his YouTube show, and he's got Larry O'Connor, who is
the morning host at WMAL Washington, and O'Connor says that
he now recognizes that people on the left truly do
not understand him and concernervatives and why people like him
believe they what they believe. And here's Larry O'Connor.
Speaker 2: I'm seeing so much in the rearview mirror now that
it sort of all makes sense. I remember during the
fights over abortion in this country, whereas a pro life conservative,
I truly did care for the lives of those unborn children.
I really did care for the emotional and mental well
being of the mothers who were faced with a horrible decision,
and sadly they only heard one side of the equation
and moved toward extinguishing the life of that unborn baby,
their child, and I had compassion for them, and I
wanted them to know that there was another choice. At
the time, on the left, all I heard from Democrats
was that I was just trying to control women's bodies,
that I was misogynist, and it wasn't really about the baby.
I just wanted to control women's bodies because I hated women.
It was the war on women, remember, And now that
I look at it, I realized they really don't understand us.
They really don't get and somehow we got to bridge that.
We're going to a dark place mark if we can't
figure out how to take each other on face value
and actually listen to where we're coming from so that
my political opponents can understand me, because if they don't
understand me, it makes it that much easier to put
a bullet in my head.
Speaker 1: He said, well, I'm not going to have time to
play this clip forty two and a half forty three, Okay,
I do have time, He said. The assassin didn't kill
Kirk Charlie Kirk because of what Kirk was saying. He
was killed because people were listening to Kirk. He was effective,
and they tried to stop that conversation from happening. And
the purpose is to silence conservative's ideas.
Speaker 2: Whether it's this violent act that was meant to marginalize
our ideas and make them worthy of murder, or the
more subtle actions that are taken by the media and
by academia. By saying that voicing our opinions is equivalent
to violence. You know, words are violence. They say that
so that when we use words, it's okay to use
violence against us. Trump is a Nazi, Trump is a fascist.
Ice ICE law enforcement officers are just like the Gestapo.
These words dehumanize us, They marginalize us. The fact that
we're not booked to be on the Sunday shows as
members of the Roundtable. We can go on there as
a guest so that we can get attacked by the
journalist who runs that Sunday show, but we're not invited
to the roundtable to participate on an equal footing with
all the other voices in Washington, DC, because our voices
and our opinions are not worthy of polite discussion. This
all builds into this dehumanizing effect. I believe in this
country that marginalizes those of us, who, by the way,
are in the majority politically right now based on the
last election. So it's like I said at the beginning,
and I think that you're right to say that the
left and people on the political left are not trying
to understand us. But I think it's because they have
been told for over a decade now that we are
not worthy of their empathy. Right, our voices and our
opinions are so toxic that they don't even need to
bother to listen to us. They should ignore us. And
if we continue to speak and we get too loud,
we should be silenced.
Speaker 1: Right, shut up, eriy. This is what Andrew Claven talked
about twenty five years ago. This is the strategy. It
is shut up to shut up. We don't want to
hear what you have to say, and we control all
of the institutions. We are the gatekeepers. Shut up. You know.
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from Larry O'Connor, WMAL radio host. He was on Next
Up with Mark Halpern and this is going to tie
into another piece of developing news today. But first here's
what he said he was talking about. They started talking
about Jimmy Kimmel's suspension and coming back and all that,
and he noted that there has been a power in
balance in media against Republicans and against conservatives for decades. Now.
Speaker 2: I can only do my best to say what we
on the right have been trying to say for decades now,
which is it's not an even playing field. It's not
fair in any way whatsoever. We very rarely see our
perspectives voiced. That's how Fox News came about, That's how
Rush Limbaugh came about, and the rise of talk radio
came about, because we've had gone for so long without
any fair representation for our ideas and our policies, which,
by the way, at any given time, the majority of
Americans hold and agree with. And so you know, listen,
I am with you. I don't like the government leaning
on corporations and trying to move this along. As far
as we know, all we have is Brendan Carr statement
on the Benny Johnson Show. If that was it, it
pales in comparison to what the Biden administration.
Speaker 1: The president, we also the president on social media.
Speaker 2: Well again on social media, that pales in comparison to
what we know occurred with the FBI and with the
Biden White undred percent Twitter and Google under in fact,
with YouTube, we learned this week, they came back to
the White House and said, listen, these guys have not
violated our terms of service, and the White House says,
we don't care you get rid of them. Are you
going to answer us. That's major pressure right there. One
hundred percent agreed, number one. But that said, listen, you're
worried about people losing their jobs or losing advertisers, or
losing revenue because of their content because people have risen
up and try to put pressure on these corporations to
do something, criming a river that take a look at
what conservative talk radio hosts have been dealing with since
the mid nineties. You want to talk about a president
applying pressure at an emotional time to a network. I'm
old enough to remember Bill Clinton blaming Rush Limbaugh for
the Oklahoma City bombing, all right, and the exodus of
advertisers after that happened. I remember when they blamed Glenn
Beck and Sarah Palin for Gabby Gifford shooting in Tucson,
which had nothing to do with politics. This is something
that we on the right in media, whether it's talk
radio or podcasts or on Fox News or other cable
news stations, have been living with for decades. We constantly
have to be watching how we say, what we say,
and how we present it, lest we run a foul
of the people who are watching every syllable to boycott
our advertisers or try to put pressure on our companies
to take us off the air. Thankfully, there's still a
huge audience for what we do. That's the only thing
that's kept us on the air. But I have friends
who have lost their jobs mark in the same way
Jimmy Kimmel lost his job, and they didn't get the
kind of support that Jimmy gott.
Speaker 1: He is exactly right. I know people who have lost
their jobs in radio for stuff they said. It is
a constant sort of damocles hanging over the head of
everybody who does what I am doing right now. And
this has been the case for, as he says, for decades.
So yeah, cry me a river too. I'm not. I
am not the softest shoulder to cry on. And I
said that when Jimmy Kimmel got indefinitely suspended, which lasted
half a Scaramucci, and he's back on the air. So
now that being said, the larger point he was making
there was that, you know, the rise of Limbaugh and
Fox News. These were market responses to the fact that
the left had captured all of the other institutions and
there was no conservative viewpoint being expressed. That's why talk
radio exists in the way it does still, It's why
Fox exists. It's why you see all of these other
competitors that have emerged. So for example, the right. Ever
since January sixth, the right MAGA has been asking and demanding,
like the FBI tell us how many agents they had
on the ground at January sixth at the Capitol, And
the FBI has never said, And the J six Committee
withheld the information for five years, and now we know,
now we know the Blaze reporting that the FBI has
now acknowledged that it had two hundred seventy five plane
clothes agents in the crowds on j six. A senior
Congressional source said the number is not necessarily a surprise,
since the FBI often embeds counter surveillance personnel at large events,
but given the fbis until now steadfast refusal to disclose
the level of its presence at the Capitol, the figure
might still be viewed with skepticism in some quarters. They
also had twenty six informants, four of whom entered the
Capitol during the rioting. According to the Office of the
Inspector General, none was actually authorized by the FBI to
break the law or enter any restricted areas, and they
were not direct to encourage others to commit illegal activity.
So nice to finally get that information out. All right,
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