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<v Speaker 1>It seems to be a big foot leaning against its

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<v Speaker 1>free in a wooded area.

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<v Speaker 2>I have seen plenty of people with big feet, but

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<v Speaker 2>not bigfoot.

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<v Speaker 3>Tree minds and brush.

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<v Speaker 4>He sees about a seven and seven and a half

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<v Speaker 4>foot tall sasquatch looking back at it, and that kind

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<v Speaker 4>of looks like a wolf, but not like a neighborhood dog.

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<v Speaker 4>Take these stores for what they are in hopes that

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<v Speaker 4>may be like, if it's out there, then show me, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>and says he might have caught the mythical cue of

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<v Speaker 4>cabra creature terrorizing his chickens like a grunt and a knock.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like a oh. I think there's kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>cultural tendency for people to want to make Bigfoot a

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<v Speaker 3>quote unquote monster.

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<v Speaker 4>Welcome to ecbro O Bigfoot Radio. All right, guys, here

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<v Speaker 4>we are on another episode of ecbr O Big for Radio.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm your host, JAMIUMN waugh Tonight we're gonna have a

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<v Speaker 4>round table discussion. I got two great friends of mine

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<v Speaker 4>right here with us, and then just friends. These guys

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<v Speaker 4>are a big quitting crypto researchers that have been long

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<v Speaker 4>into this field, and uh, you know, we're gonna just

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<v Speaker 4>talk big quick and everything in between. I'm looking forward

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<v Speaker 4>to seeing what we get into tonight. Who knows what's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna be said tonight. Yeah. If you guys don't know

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<v Speaker 4>these guys, you gotta find out tonight. So now with

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<v Speaker 4>that being said, let me welcome mister Bill Rigby and

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<v Speaker 4>the Josh Stasko. How are you guys doing tonight?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh we're just.

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<v Speaker 4>Awesome, awesome, Well, guys, you know you guys both know that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, we we all deal with events every year.

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<v Speaker 4>And yeah, here we are. We're new into the twenty

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<v Speaker 4>twenty five year. And uh, you know, there's a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of events I want to go over real quick. Just

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<v Speaker 4>make mention for the listeners out there for them to

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<v Speaker 4>marketer calendars and prepare themselves for these upcoming events. Uh.

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<v Speaker 5>There's one event.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a small, small town event right here in Virginia.

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<v Speaker 4>Basically it's a Bigfoot town hall meeting gathering. It's more

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<v Speaker 4>of a big foot in lunch gathering. February eighth in Lexington, Virginia.

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<v Speaker 4>Yours truly to the ECBRO, I'm hosting a big Foot

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<v Speaker 4>in lunch. It's going to be held at the restaurant

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<v Speaker 4>diner cafe known as Legendary East, and some of my

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<v Speaker 4>friends that live locals like, why'd you choose it there?

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<v Speaker 5>I said, well, if you look at the logo of.

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<v Speaker 4>Their sign, it's got a bigfoot iron and it's called

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<v Speaker 4>Legendary East. And you look at their menu, it's all

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<v Speaker 4>bigfoot encrypted theme items. So I mean it's the perfect place.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean when I reached out to the restaurant owner,

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, absolutely absolutely. I reached out to the restaurant

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<v Speaker 4>owner when I first came up with this idea to

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<v Speaker 4>have something there. They were excited about it. They were like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, because I wanted permission to advertise and promote

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<v Speaker 4>their restaurant. Of course, yeah, promote your restaurant. They're all

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<v Speaker 4>about it. So yeah, I've got several people that's been

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<v Speaker 4>sharing my I put a flyer together for that. We

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<v Speaker 4>just hope to gather some like minded individuals, perhaps some

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<v Speaker 4>people with some experiences that might be willing to come

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<v Speaker 4>out of the woodwork and share their stories with us.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, we're just doing this for're a good times.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a free event. The only thing that's gonna cost

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<v Speaker 4>you is for you to buy off their menu and

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<v Speaker 4>then sit and eat with us.

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<v Speaker 5>So that's the only thing that.

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<v Speaker 4>Will cost everybody. Again, it's a free event. You pay

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<v Speaker 4>for what you'll order at the restaurant. Now, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>just judging from the items on your menu, it sounds delicious.

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen some of the pictures. I myself have never

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<v Speaker 4>been there, and it's only about an hour south of you,

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<v Speaker 4>so I can't believe I've never been there, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>gonna find out soon enough. So jumping ahead in the

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<v Speaker 4>month of March. After February, we got March twenty ninth. Bill,

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna let you talk about this one because this

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<v Speaker 4>is your baby right here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's my baby. Oh baby, it is No. It's

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<v Speaker 3>the third Penal High Paranormal Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be at Tiffany Banquet Center in Brookfield, Ohio

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<v Speaker 3>on March twenty ninth. It runs from ten to six.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have one hundred, one hundred plus venders. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>still getting applications in Nice. We've got five speakers, got

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<v Speaker 3>Amy Boo, Frettzaluga, Jim Sparks, Gwenland Purcell, uh Dale Rogers

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<v Speaker 3>In Donnie from Haunted Hillview. I got Jamie and Jenny

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<v Speaker 3>King as MC's now, those are the nicest people you

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<v Speaker 3>can ever meet, right, Yeah, Jenny, They're they're awesome.

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<v Speaker 4>They are sweet people for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, I got some special people coming and

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<v Speaker 3>if the one shows up, it's gonna be awesome. It's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna they said they will come, so you know, we'll see.

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<v Speaker 3>But uh oh, i'll have people I'm freaking out. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>guarantee you. That's another one that'll be freaking people out now.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so that that is in March twenty ninth,

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<v Speaker 3>and it got bigger every year. The first two years

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<v Speaker 3>we were Hickory VFW and hr HP, which is only

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<v Speaker 3>six miles from where this event center is, and it

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<v Speaker 3>is it's that much bigger that I had to move

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<v Speaker 3>up there. And yeah, each year is grown. And like

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<v Speaker 3>last year, the last Saturday fell on Easter weekend that

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<v Speaker 3>oh okay, it grew, but the attendance was down like

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<v Speaker 3>a hundred people, but it didn't yeah oh yeah, yeah

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<v Speaker 3>so and we had full capacity on vendors.

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<v Speaker 4>So the one thing I want to add in there

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<v Speaker 4>real quick, it's funny that you mentioned that that you

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<v Speaker 4>guys were down around like basically one hundred people in attendance.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year at my event.

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<v Speaker 4>We did have a much smaller attendance that year, and

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<v Speaker 4>a big part of it, I can tell you why

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<v Speaker 4>that happened. It's my negligence towards the promoting and the

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<v Speaker 4>marketing of my own event here in Virginia, because as

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<v Speaker 4>as you guys know, I was putting on the event

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<v Speaker 4>up in Pennsylvania over in Somerset, which you know, I mean, John,

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<v Speaker 4>correct me if I'm wrong. I mean I thought that

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<v Speaker 4>was a very successful turnout there, you know, and lot

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<v Speaker 4>of it, Yeah, a lot of my promoting went towards

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<v Speaker 4>that it was the first time event being held there,

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<v Speaker 4>and I got people want me to do it again,

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<v Speaker 4>and just I just need a new location because the

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<v Speaker 4>problem without event, even though we had a good turnout

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of people loved it, had fun. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>we had the great vendors, the sales a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>the vendors. That was the that was the all. The

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<v Speaker 4>other issue is I ran into was the phone service,

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<v Speaker 4>the phone signals and the connection for people to make

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<v Speaker 4>their sales. You know, you know, they were limited. They

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<v Speaker 4>had a uh you know fall back to cash sales,

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<v Speaker 4>which became limited to a lot of people didn't carry cash.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, and so you know that was an issue there.

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<v Speaker 6>But the other too, Dan was just that, okay with

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<v Speaker 6>attendance being down, is that just about every event except

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<v Speaker 6>for a chosen few, were way.

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<v Speaker 3>Off and I mean way off m the mark last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the other problem too with that event we were

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<v Speaker 1>in Somerset was there was a couple of people, well

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<v Speaker 1>more than a couple, it was. The bathroom situation was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty bad. And uh, some of the vendors, the food

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<v Speaker 1>vendors didn't show up, remember.

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<v Speaker 4>That, right, Yeah, there were no shows. Yeah I don't

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<v Speaker 4>get that.

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<v Speaker 3>I know it either, and that happens a lot with

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<v Speaker 3>food vendors.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the thing is, I think we only had one

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<v Speaker 1>or two at the most. We had a wine vendor there,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, alcohol vendor, but we had a one I

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<v Speaker 1>think was one food vendor that I recall. But the

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<v Speaker 1>people were complaining about the bathrooms and the accessibility to

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<v Speaker 1>get there, and like Dan said, it was also the

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<v Speaker 1>fact about the signals for their phones and things of

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<v Speaker 1>this nature. But I mean, all in all, I think

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<v Speaker 1>there was probably my guess, you know, I was up there.

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<v Speaker 1>I got there a little late, but I got probably

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<v Speaker 1>i'd say five six hundred people showed up there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean because I had a hard time finding a

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<v Speaker 1>place to park, but I did. But I think, yeah, long,

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<v Speaker 1>it was a pretty successful event. And like Dan said,

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<v Speaker 1>what we need to do is I mean, I like

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<v Speaker 1>to do it again, Uh but they need a you

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<v Speaker 1>need a better venue, you know, something works more easy

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<v Speaker 1>to locate. And so and you know, there's some of

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<v Speaker 1>these vendors that backed out or didn't even bother call you.

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<v Speaker 1>I went asked, I went to have them back.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, no, no, no, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>They at least they could at least called you. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as I'm concerned. You know, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>going you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, like my event, I had forty vendors there, all right,

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<v Speaker 3>two has backed out near the last minute, but it

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<v Speaker 3>was justifiable. One ended up in the pneumonia, the other

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<v Speaker 3>one out of death. So no problem, I don't care.

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<v Speaker 3>I saw those two spots to other vendors that came

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<v Speaker 3>and says, if you had extra room, I'd take another table.

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<v Speaker 3>Well here take this one. You know. Sorry, it all

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<v Speaker 3>worked out, but still there was a forty vendors and

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<v Speaker 3>the pace was planned.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know what I would suggest then and then

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<v Speaker 1>and then Okay, I mean the vendors that we I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the situation about your two vendors. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>would suggest is if the same vendors want to come

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<v Speaker 1>back up to backed out, make them pay. Well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>let me let me finish. What I would do. What

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<v Speaker 1>I would do is, you know, have them pay a

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<v Speaker 1>bigger appearance fee before they get there. This way, they're

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<v Speaker 1>out that money. Okay, one way or not about the moment, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know I have a put a penalty on

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<v Speaker 1>it because they didn't show up last time. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>take anything to make a phone call, you know. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I called. I talked to people all around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Okay. If I could call uh South Korea

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<v Speaker 1>or Russia or Ukraine, or friends of mine in Israel

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<v Speaker 1>or Egypt, then they can certainly call up there in

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<v Speaker 1>to Somerset and say, Dan, I can't make it for

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<v Speaker 1>whatever reason. I'm sorry, you know, something came up. They

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<v Speaker 1>could do that. I mean, it's calm fan. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all just common courtesy, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, no, no, you're fine. Yeah, but I will

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<v Speaker 4>say this. The one food well, we had two food vendors,

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<v Speaker 4>but one was actually food food.

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<v Speaker 5>The other one was more.

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<v Speaker 4>Like coffee and other drinks and stuff like that, and

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<v Speaker 4>maybe a few small sweets in between. However, the one

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<v Speaker 4>food truck that was there, and you know, and she

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<v Speaker 4>was aware that we had others coming, but she learned

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<v Speaker 4>that they didn't show up but within the first few hours,

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<v Speaker 4>like going into the lunch hours. And so, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I looked up there, I was up there a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm sure you've seen it too. She kept the crowd

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<v Speaker 4>and she and me and her have to talk. She

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<v Speaker 4>took a step away because her husband and whoever else

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<v Speaker 4>was working inside that truck. She said, I'm loving this.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, seriously, exactly. And but anyhow, I'll get back to

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<v Speaker 3>some more sponsors. If anyone likes to sponsor the Penalty

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<v Speaker 3>this morning, but she she might have Uh, pre sell tickets,

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<v Speaker 4>I've seen them what they've done in the past, and

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<v Speaker 3>Yes so and never reasonable. So I like it. But

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<v Speaker 4>Dan all right, oh yeah, oh please, by all means yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We're planning May along with Dave Grant and Joe Fogel.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh him, Joe Fogel Cryptiquetology. Uh, they all all three

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<v Speaker 3>of us put events on different events. Well, uh, we're

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<v Speaker 3>collaborating for up here and Charon fya. They just got

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<v Speaker 3>this big, beautiful green space park all right, And I

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<v Speaker 3>off a street next to it, we're gonna need a

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<v Speaker 3>permit and probably pay for two policemen at each other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>next to the river and they got it all fixed

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<v Speaker 3>up nice. All right. So that's we're looking at June

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<v Speaker 3>sixth of twenty six to do this because we're still

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<v Speaker 3>Bigfoot on the River.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Yeah, we're exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, for those who are not really familiar, this

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<v Speaker 3>Sharon, Pennsylvania, right downtown, right in the center town. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna have speakers, We're gonna have vendors, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 3>have bands, we're gonna have several food trucks. Actually I

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<v Speaker 3>already had three committed already and this is a woe. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>they're all about promoting things downtown.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, listen, you said this is gonna happen in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yep.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, if you don't mind put me down as a speaker.

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<v Speaker 3>I've discussed it with the other two. John, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know. I'm available. Yeah, as long as I'm alive,

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<v Speaker 1>as long as I'm still alive and a wife doesn't kill.

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<v Speaker 4>Me, John, John, they agree to let you speak, they

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<v Speaker 1>Charge just.

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<v Speaker 3>H We'll charge them by the word.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'll be broke. I'll be she's I

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<v Speaker 1>had to rob a bank.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh man, then you got to be all you got

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<v Speaker 4>to be able to retire.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but yeah. So we're playing to go big and

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<v Speaker 3>this is a free event to the public, including the speakers,

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<v Speaker 3>including the band. Okay, and they can come in and

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<v Speaker 3>shop the vendors. It's free for them to come in.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you considered Have you considered having a hog ROAs

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<v Speaker 1>stuff there? For real? I went to a hog roast

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<v Speaker 1>and it was some kids got killed years ago by

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<v Speaker 1>by on a motorcycle where I lived, and this motorcycle

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<v Speaker 1>gang they actually put together a hog roast and he

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<v Speaker 1>had flat bed bands and everything else. They've been because

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<v Speaker 1>the family of the kids that got killed, they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have insurance. He was twenty one years old and they

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<v Speaker 1>probably made twelve, twelve or thirteen thousand dollars just from

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<v Speaker 1>the hog row Stay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not gone put a whole gross together on a

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<v Speaker 3>green space. I don't think they appreciate burning their grass.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good idea, John, but I don't think it

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<v Speaker 3>would work with the city. They'll get all upset.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only thing I can think you could do better.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill is probably get a get a one of those poles,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could do a pole dance and charge a

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<v Speaker 1>mission for that so they don't have to see you.

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<v Speaker 3>Is this a PG show? Ard R rated?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't you know how to answer that one. It's

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<v Speaker 4>just go with the flow.

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<v Speaker 3>I shouldn't say that, but John's starting to agitate. I

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<v Speaker 3>can get vicious.

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<v Speaker 4>I know, just goes on Spotify, iHeartRadio and so many

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<v Speaker 4>other platform so it gets heard around the world eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we're looking forward to this, but like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>it's all in the planning stage. We already got one

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<v Speaker 3>band lined up. Uh. And because David talks to the

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<v Speaker 3>guide and guy goes, I'm down port. Okay, that sounds good.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, we're excited about that. I'm getting all pumped up.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, I would imagine it sounds very exciting for real.

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<v Speaker 3>And Joe, he's saying, we've got plenty of time. Bill,

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<v Speaker 3>We've got plenty of times down right, I know. But

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<v Speaker 3>I want answers now.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I want to ask you guys something too, if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't mind, I mean, just a little bit off

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<v Speaker 1>the subject sort of. But uh, next summer. This coming summer,

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<v Speaker 1>I was trying to get together some people to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Saltport for about a two to three day investigation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and I love. The first people came to mind, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>was you, Dan Bill, and Ron Howells and some others

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<v Speaker 1>that I we know that we're very familiar with and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And I mean, because that seems to be a pretty

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<v Speaker 1>getting some reports later there's been more sightings going on here,

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<v Speaker 1>including of all things I hate to say this word

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so they're up there. Let me tell you something, John,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been watching other people talking. There's some eight groups

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<v Speaker 3>going in there.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, Yeah, that's that's true. I noticed that myself.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really stepping on Doug Waller's toes because Doug was

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<v Speaker 1>And well, I'm not talking a lot of people I'm talking.

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<v Speaker 3>I understand that, but we're gonna be running into other

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<v Speaker 3>ones that are.

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<v Speaker 4>There, right.

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<v Speaker 3>That's my my feelings on this right now, because that's

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<v Speaker 3>why I haven't even called about it, because I've been

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<v Speaker 3>I've been seeing all this crap. I'm like, this is nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>This is just totally nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, they're probably driving any big foot around that area

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<v Speaker 1>out of the area. If that's that many people going there.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're supposed to start feeling some logging and fracking

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<v Speaker 3>back in there and that'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Be the end of that. Then yeah, that'll be into that.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, but you know, I like to get

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<v Speaker 1>us together to do a real investigation of me because

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<v Speaker 1>let me just say this, and I know, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't mean to interrupt what you're saying about your events

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<v Speaker 1>coming up. I've been I've been here. You know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>been thinking a lot about wanting to get out there

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<v Speaker 1>and do a real life, real in depth and investigation.

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<v Speaker 1>And look, I'm gonna I'm going to put it out

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<v Speaker 1>there for everybody to hear. For the most part, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe most of the Bigfoot cryptid group paranormal groups are

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<v Speaker 1>not very good trained people. Okay, and that's just my opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>I've met some really good ones too, but by and large,

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<v Speaker 1>what I've seen is more people interested in getting the

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<v Speaker 1>entertainment thrill going out there and making enough noise to

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<v Speaker 1>wake the dead. You know, you've seen it too, You've

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<v Speaker 1>seen on the TV shows and stuff. It's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gone from being a serious subject for us to

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<v Speaker 1>being almost laughable. And everybody's looking at is entertainment.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not in this for entertainment, right, And that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>the thing that's and I point that out without trying

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<v Speaker 4>to be uh, trying to think of the right word

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<v Speaker 4>to put it out there. But you know, hey, we

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<v Speaker 4>all have friends that are you know, there's we meet

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<v Speaker 4>these TV personalities and these other what becomes celebrities. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're good before even before they kind of shows. Yes,

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<v Speaker 4>they were good friends that a lot of people. I

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<v Speaker 4>mean some of these people I have yet to meet.

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<v Speaker 4>I never met some of them. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, some of these shows, yes, unfortunately, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>they won't tell you behind the scenes, they won't tell

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<v Speaker 4>you during the show. But yes, it is entertainment and

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<v Speaker 4>that's what it has become. But I mean they're they're

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<v Speaker 4>not obligated to you know, maybe they have contracts or stuff.

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<v Speaker 4>There's only so much they can tell you in person

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<v Speaker 4>as well, but they're not going to tell you. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's all part of the entertainment industry. And there is

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<v Speaker 4>starting a script theyve got to follow.

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<v Speaker 3>I tell it everybody too. When you it's a TV regular,

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<v Speaker 3>weekly TV show or once a month whatever, follow the money.

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<v Speaker 3>The producer ain't making money the show way and on.

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<v Speaker 3>So they're not going to show you a damn thing

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<v Speaker 3>that any proof. They're going absolutely possible. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't go with the TV shows like with this podcast.

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<v Speaker 3>I deal with straight out honest researchers.

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<v Speaker 4>Right right.

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<v Speaker 1>But I suggested a long time ago and other groups.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm an administrator in a lot of groups

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<v Speaker 1>as well. I suggested, and it's been falling for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part on deaf ears about having training podcasts and

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<v Speaker 1>things of this nature. So, look, anybody can misidentify something.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that Dan, you know that Bill? Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they can misidentify a bear. They can say something's bigger

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<v Speaker 1>than Actually it's because they get spooked when in the woods.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, when you're going out in the woods

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<v Speaker 1>to do this kind of stuff, and I watched these

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<v Speaker 1>shows just like you have, and I just shake my head.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they go out there and they make enough

420
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<v Speaker 1>noise to wake the dead. They do it most of

421
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<v Speaker 1>the time. They're doing daylight excursions into the woods. But

422
00:24:47.359 --> 00:24:50.599
<v Speaker 1>they're making so much noise. There's a bunch I'm going together. Okay,

423
00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:55.160
<v Speaker 1>the whole trick. If you want to see something, you

424
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<v Speaker 1>got to be quiet. You're dealing with something that's got

425
00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:05.359
<v Speaker 1>super senses hearing, sites, smell, sound okay, and much more

426
00:25:05.400 --> 00:25:08.039
<v Speaker 1>powerful than we are. You got to find a place

427
00:25:08.200 --> 00:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>going on a game trail or a right away, you know,

428
00:25:11.559 --> 00:25:14.720
<v Speaker 1>power line right away. You got to be quiet because

429
00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:16.839
<v Speaker 1>these things can hear. How do you think they've evaded

430
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<v Speaker 1>us for so long.

431
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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to go deep in the woods either.

432
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<v Speaker 1>No, you don't. But the thing is, you don't take

433
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<v Speaker 1>You don't take twenty or thirty people and just to

434
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<v Speaker 1>trading through the wood. I mean you might not even

435
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<v Speaker 1>see a deer if you do that for real.

436
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<v Speaker 4>Oh, you guys will love our research area that we're

437
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:38.440
<v Speaker 4>covering right now. The deer put on a show every

438
00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:44.160
<v Speaker 4>night in the field that's right across from our camp. Yeah,

439
00:25:44.160 --> 00:25:46.799
<v Speaker 4>that's pretty cool. They're everywhere right there. So you know,

440
00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:49.240
<v Speaker 4>if the deer there, you know, good damn chances that

441
00:25:49.279 --> 00:25:51.279
<v Speaker 4>they're in the big pot or other predators not too

442
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<v Speaker 4>far off.

443
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<v Speaker 1>They walk down, they walk down the streets in Washington, PA.

444
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<v Speaker 1>You got them in a cemetery. You got them in

445
00:26:00.200 --> 00:26:02.799
<v Speaker 1>the park up here. We our next door neighbor had

446
00:26:04.200 --> 00:26:08.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, female deer deliver a baby on her porch.

447
00:26:08.799 --> 00:26:13.400
<v Speaker 1>I want Okay, my great grandkids used to go across

448
00:26:13.400 --> 00:26:16.079
<v Speaker 1>the street, like ten feet away from our door and

449
00:26:16.160 --> 00:26:18.680
<v Speaker 1>feed the deer. They come down big bucks, like ten

450
00:26:18.759 --> 00:26:21.519
<v Speaker 1>twelve point bucks, and their their dos and their fawns

451
00:26:21.920 --> 00:26:24.359
<v Speaker 1>right across the street. And there's a I mean, we

452
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<v Speaker 1>live in town. The only thing I haven't seen him

453
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<v Speaker 1>do is hitchhike.

454
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<v Speaker 3>I have one that on an icy road in front

455
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<v Speaker 3>of me. Did you yeah? Across me? Twenty eight dollars

456
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<v Speaker 3>on my cheap compass.

457
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<v Speaker 4>Wow, Bill, I got. I'm just curious because you know,

458
00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:50.400
<v Speaker 4>I'm working on getting John down here in May. Because

459
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<v Speaker 4>May that's another one of the events I got going on.

460
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:56.440
<v Speaker 4>It's a camp out. It's it's for a week long

461
00:26:56.519 --> 00:27:01.000
<v Speaker 4>camp out. It's May eighteenth through the twenty four. Now,

462
00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:04.920
<v Speaker 4>we camped in this particular location back in October with

463
00:27:05.319 --> 00:27:09.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, some of my team members, and you know,

464
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.279
<v Speaker 4>we did some hiking and exploring. We found some interesting things.

465
00:27:12.359 --> 00:27:13.920
<v Speaker 4>We heard a few interesting things.

466
00:27:14.519 --> 00:27:17.519
<v Speaker 5>Now, on the most part, none of them, none of.

467
00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.039
<v Speaker 4>Us witnessed anything out of the ordinary or we heard

468
00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:23.920
<v Speaker 4>some weird things right near in by camp. However, there

469
00:27:24.039 --> 00:27:27.160
<v Speaker 4>was a couple that came down from Pennsylvania. Uh.

470
00:27:27.200 --> 00:27:30.400
<v Speaker 5>They lived over towards where Gwendolyn lives.

471
00:27:30.920 --> 00:27:33.400
<v Speaker 4>And it was a husband and wife that keep in mind,

472
00:27:33.440 --> 00:27:36.240
<v Speaker 4>I mind you now, if you watched the video I

473
00:27:36.279 --> 00:27:40.119
<v Speaker 4>put out back during of our camp out, I saved

474
00:27:40.160 --> 00:27:42.799
<v Speaker 4>it to the very ended. We learned about this a

475
00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.039
<v Speaker 4>little bit like after a couple of us had left.

476
00:27:45.279 --> 00:27:49.960
<v Speaker 4>My friends David and his wife Melissa, they were the

477
00:27:50.039 --> 00:27:50.960
<v Speaker 4>last ones.

478
00:27:51.240 --> 00:27:54.319
<v Speaker 5>Well between the other couple they were. They were just

479
00:27:54.359 --> 00:27:55.279
<v Speaker 5>closing down and.

480
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.200
<v Speaker 4>Getting ready to pack up and leave until the other

481
00:27:57.240 --> 00:27:59.400
<v Speaker 4>couple came out and told them what they had seen

482
00:27:59.480 --> 00:28:02.319
<v Speaker 4>when they were down by the gate that goes to

483
00:28:02.400 --> 00:28:05.559
<v Speaker 4>the lake that's out in the middle of the woods. Well,

484
00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:08.480
<v Speaker 4>long story short, the wife thought she saw a bear.

485
00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, keep in mind she also does not have

486
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:15.000
<v Speaker 4>any understanding or recrelation of what wildlife and how wy

487
00:28:15.079 --> 00:28:17.400
<v Speaker 4>life works and what wildlife how they move.

488
00:28:18.079 --> 00:28:19.000
<v Speaker 5>Well, she thought she.

489
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:23.160
<v Speaker 4>Saw a bear, keep in mind, a bear on two legs.

490
00:28:23.279 --> 00:28:29.279
<v Speaker 4>She didn't know bears don't run real fast on two legs.

491
00:28:29.680 --> 00:28:33.799
<v Speaker 4>So long story short after she explained exactly what she saw.

492
00:28:33.839 --> 00:28:37.799
<v Speaker 4>I was like, that was a no bear what she

493
00:28:37.880 --> 00:28:40.319
<v Speaker 4>saw while her husband was pulling into this area by

494
00:28:40.359 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the gate. She was looking over her shoulder and saw

495
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:47.279
<v Speaker 4>what stood there on two feet and jumped across and

496
00:28:47.359 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 4>ran across into the woods across the trail by the gate.

497
00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.079
<v Speaker 4>Now that's her story, and if you watch the end

498
00:28:53.160 --> 00:28:55.640
<v Speaker 4>of the veto, she explains it in pretty good details,

499
00:28:55.839 --> 00:29:02.039
<v Speaker 4>you know. So, you know, apart from that, now there's

500
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:04.640
<v Speaker 4>been I've already gathered other information.

501
00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:06.400
<v Speaker 5>No other bigfoot.

502
00:29:05.960 --> 00:29:09.880
<v Speaker 4>Researchers go into this particular location, but I've heard first

503
00:29:09.880 --> 00:29:13.319
<v Speaker 4>in reports from hunters, now not just any hunters, bear

504
00:29:13.440 --> 00:29:17.759
<v Speaker 4>hunters who have seen have seen them peeking behind a

505
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:21.960
<v Speaker 4>tree at them, you know. And then there's been other

506
00:29:22.000 --> 00:29:26.319
<v Speaker 4>reports of this particular location of you know, like in

507
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.680
<v Speaker 4>my main research area, which is about twenty five thirty

508
00:29:29.720 --> 00:29:34.359
<v Speaker 4>miles away, which is you know, it's only just a

509
00:29:34.359 --> 00:29:38.920
<v Speaker 4>few miles from West Virginia. However, I've had a group

510
00:29:38.920 --> 00:29:41.480
<v Speaker 4>of young guys in a pickup truck some years ago

511
00:29:42.200 --> 00:29:43.079
<v Speaker 4>they saw my vehicle.

512
00:29:43.119 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 5>I was actually parked.

513
00:29:44.079 --> 00:29:47.880
<v Speaker 4>At the bathhouse that that's at the entrance that leads

514
00:29:47.920 --> 00:29:50.640
<v Speaker 4>to the lake in my main area. These guys they

515
00:29:50.640 --> 00:29:53.960
<v Speaker 4>saw them the details on my blazers, and they just

516
00:29:54.160 --> 00:29:57.519
<v Speaker 4>had to stop and they saw again, they saw the

517
00:29:57.680 --> 00:30:01.799
<v Speaker 4>bigfoot details on my blazer that I had, and they

518
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.920
<v Speaker 4>started talking to me. And then next thing, you know,

519
00:30:04.160 --> 00:30:05.920
<v Speaker 4>it's like they had to show me. They pulled out

520
00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:08.599
<v Speaker 4>their phone. Now keep in mind they're just pulling out

521
00:30:08.640 --> 00:30:11.400
<v Speaker 4>images that they already had on the phone. So there's

522
00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:13.680
<v Speaker 4>no phone service there, so they had no way to

523
00:30:13.720 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 4>pull this up if it was fake, you know, like

524
00:30:15.960 --> 00:30:16.519
<v Speaker 4>on the internet.

525
00:30:16.599 --> 00:30:17.440
<v Speaker 3>Yes, exactly.

526
00:30:18.440 --> 00:30:22.279
<v Speaker 4>So they were showing me these images of a trackway

527
00:30:22.440 --> 00:30:24.440
<v Speaker 4>and probably about maybe two or three inches of.

528
00:30:24.480 --> 00:30:28.920
<v Speaker 5>Snow along a roadway. Not I mind you I've seen these.

529
00:30:29.799 --> 00:30:34.960
<v Speaker 4>These are massive, very clear, large, probably eighteen to twenty

530
00:30:35.039 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 4>inch tracks in the snow along a roadway.

531
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<v Speaker 5>And I'm thinking they're showing me like I thought it

532
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:43.200
<v Speaker 5>was from somewhere.

533
00:30:42.880 --> 00:30:45.440
<v Speaker 4>Right in my main research here. So I asked them,

534
00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:49.400
<v Speaker 4>I said, where was this located? When they mentioned their

535
00:30:49.559 --> 00:30:53.880
<v Speaker 4>name my job, I was dropped because I did I

536
00:30:53.960 --> 00:30:56.799
<v Speaker 4>had just recently learned back when they showed me this,

537
00:30:56.880 --> 00:30:59.920
<v Speaker 4>I had just recently learned of this area from a coworker,

538
00:31:00.960 --> 00:31:03.079
<v Speaker 4>and that told me about the area, about some where

539
00:31:03.160 --> 00:31:06.240
<v Speaker 4>stuff that's going on about there, and there's a lot

540
00:31:06.240 --> 00:31:08.599
<v Speaker 4>of mountain line of sightings that are very famous for

541
00:31:08.640 --> 00:31:13.400
<v Speaker 4>that area. But I had just learned of this area,

542
00:31:13.480 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 4>and then they showed me these. I was when they

543
00:31:15.640 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 4>told me the name of the area, which me and

544
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.599
<v Speaker 4>my team we decided not to make this public.

545
00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 5>The only ones that come out there are those that.

546
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 4>We give the quarterns to to come out there and

547
00:31:25.359 --> 00:31:30.119
<v Speaker 4>join our camps because again, this is in Virginia. But

548
00:31:30.200 --> 00:31:34.599
<v Speaker 4>this other location, it's north from where we mainly camp. However,

549
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.200
<v Speaker 4>it's also almost not far from the West Virginia line,

550
00:31:38.400 --> 00:31:43.400
<v Speaker 4>but it's still in Virginia. And again this was like

551
00:31:43.759 --> 00:31:46.039
<v Speaker 4>really exciting to me. I was like, this is awesome.

552
00:31:46.200 --> 00:31:49.519
<v Speaker 4>I mean, they were supposed to send those images to me.

553
00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:51.480
<v Speaker 4>I gave them the information I wanted to send them

554
00:31:51.519 --> 00:31:53.480
<v Speaker 4>my email. I never did get a copy of those.

555
00:31:53.359 --> 00:31:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Images, but I've done when they said they're going to

556
00:31:57.119 --> 00:31:57.960
<v Speaker 3>do it.

557
00:31:58.240 --> 00:32:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Exactly I know. Now. I've done some Google research on

558
00:32:02.440 --> 00:32:05.319
<v Speaker 4>bigfoot like tracks in this no to kind of find

559
00:32:05.400 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 4>something that I I found some interesting things online, but

560
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:11.839
<v Speaker 4>nothing that would resemble exactly what I saw. What they

561
00:32:11.880 --> 00:32:12.240
<v Speaker 4>showed me.

562
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:15.680
<v Speaker 5>But what they showed me was very impressive.

563
00:32:16.400 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 4>And the thing is it was on one of the

564
00:32:18.720 --> 00:32:20.960
<v Speaker 4>back roads just outside of.

565
00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:22.559
<v Speaker 5>That our main area out there.

566
00:32:22.759 --> 00:32:25.640
<v Speaker 4>It's like it goes around on the backside of it

567
00:32:25.880 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 4>because there's a lot of back country roads. Because this

568
00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:32.839
<v Speaker 4>area here, I'm telling you, this is redneck territory out here,

569
00:32:33.079 --> 00:32:35.799
<v Speaker 4>and it's not but wood. So if I mean, these

570
00:32:35.799 --> 00:32:38.440
<v Speaker 4>are people this area for those who've been out there

571
00:32:38.480 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 4>and lived there, all hold their lives out there. This

572
00:32:40.799 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 4>is basically yeah, you better you might hear bangels out there.

573
00:32:44.720 --> 00:32:51.839
<v Speaker 4>I will tell you that. Yeah, these are areas country

574
00:32:51.839 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 4>folks that I live in the mountains.

575
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 3>Nobody not me.

576
00:32:55.839 --> 00:32:58.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, these are real country folks that live in these areas.

577
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 4>And you know, not many people talk out there. So

578
00:33:00.759 --> 00:33:03.200
<v Speaker 4>you know for these young boys. He's a young guy

579
00:33:03.279 --> 00:33:06.240
<v Speaker 4>that showed me this, you know, the young guys, young

580
00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:09.640
<v Speaker 4>young bear hunter guys that showed me this picture on

581
00:33:09.680 --> 00:33:14.160
<v Speaker 4>your smartphone, you know, several years ago. So yeah, I've

582
00:33:14.160 --> 00:33:15.319
<v Speaker 4>been researching this area.

583
00:33:16.039 --> 00:33:18.440
<v Speaker 3>I got some friends up in Chestnut, rich where I

584
00:33:18.559 --> 00:33:19.200
<v Speaker 3>used to live.

585
00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:21.559
<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a hospital of course too.

586
00:33:21.720 --> 00:33:25.720
<v Speaker 3>Yes, And when they found out I'm really in the

587
00:33:27.400 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 3>start they are going nuts. And the one one I

588
00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:35.400
<v Speaker 3>knew him since he was a young kid and he's

589
00:33:36.519 --> 00:33:40.400
<v Speaker 3>in his thirties now he's a father of two beautiful

590
00:33:40.440 --> 00:33:45.799
<v Speaker 3>boys and that. And when I spoke in dairy Pa,

591
00:33:46.759 --> 00:33:51.359
<v Speaker 3>I say that his place overnight the one night and

592
00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:56.359
<v Speaker 3>and him sat there three in the morning talking about

593
00:33:56.920 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 3>things he saw since I've moved out of that area,

594
00:34:00.880 --> 00:34:06.960
<v Speaker 3>and witnesses and that of stuff. And then the next

595
00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.679
<v Speaker 3>day there and Darry I had did for once I

596
00:34:09.760 --> 00:34:13.679
<v Speaker 3>recognized from that well I was living at come up

597
00:34:14.119 --> 00:34:18.840
<v Speaker 3>and the one come up. I go, I know you

598
00:34:18.840 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 3>you do? Yeah, you live up on Graveyard Hill. Yeah,

599
00:34:24.360 --> 00:34:26.480
<v Speaker 3>And I told him. He said, oh my god, I

600
00:34:26.519 --> 00:34:28.599
<v Speaker 3>don't recognize. I said, yeah, now I got a beard

601
00:34:28.960 --> 00:34:35.320
<v Speaker 3>and I'm great. He started laughing, and so made him

602
00:34:35.360 --> 00:34:40.480
<v Speaker 3>start talking. He had one in his backyard. He said,

603
00:34:41.199 --> 00:34:42.840
<v Speaker 3>I was afraid to move the run in the house

604
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.159
<v Speaker 3>and gets camera. I said, then you have a phone.

605
00:34:46.880 --> 00:34:56.079
<v Speaker 3>It was in the house too. He describes it and all, so, yeah, yeah,

606
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:58.639
<v Speaker 3>they're out there, Yeah they aren't out there.

607
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, I mentioned it to Dan when I was talking

608
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:04.480
<v Speaker 1>to him the other day when we did the interview

609
00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:07.320
<v Speaker 1>about a month and a half two months ago, I

610
00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.119
<v Speaker 1>was with my great grandson Eli. I took him up

611
00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:13.159
<v Speaker 1>to Washington Park now Washington Park. You know, it's a

612
00:35:13.159 --> 00:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>fairly urban area all around here, but there's a lot

613
00:35:15.400 --> 00:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>of wood and stuff. And I go up here with

614
00:35:17.880 --> 00:35:20.159
<v Speaker 1>him to take him with his bike. He's seven years old.

615
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:22.679
<v Speaker 1>I had to teach him how to ride his bike. Okay,

616
00:35:23.119 --> 00:35:25.960
<v Speaker 1>So I'm at the very top of this hill and

617
00:35:26.039 --> 00:35:28.119
<v Speaker 1>there's woods all around. At the distance you can see

618
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:29.039
<v Speaker 1>in her state seventy.

619
00:35:29.480 --> 00:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>But wait, wait a minute, John, He said he was

620
00:35:32.480 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 3>on top of a hill. What do you do? Push

621
00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:35.280
<v Speaker 3>that kid down the hill?

622
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:42.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about it. I'm thinking about it. There's a

623
00:35:42.239 --> 00:35:44.920
<v Speaker 1>big there's like a big round circle, it's about five

624
00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>hundred feet in diameter, and he's riding around. I'm sitting

625
00:35:47.519 --> 00:35:49.880
<v Speaker 1>on a bench watching him. And he comes around the

626
00:35:49.920 --> 00:35:51.719
<v Speaker 1>last time he says, look at that, pap app And

627
00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.599
<v Speaker 1>I looked over about fifty yards away, and it looked

628
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.719
<v Speaker 1>like somebody's sitting behind a tree on all you know,

629
00:35:57.800 --> 00:36:01.840
<v Speaker 1>sitting under butt. There was black. My first thought was

630
00:36:02.760 --> 00:36:05.880
<v Speaker 1>it's a person. Throughout that time, my wife calls me

631
00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:08.599
<v Speaker 1>to ask me how Eli's doing on a bike, and

632
00:36:08.639 --> 00:36:11.000
<v Speaker 1>I says, well, he's doing pretty good, but we just

633
00:36:11.079 --> 00:36:13.480
<v Speaker 1>he just pointed out it's something he saw. So I'm

634
00:36:13.480 --> 00:36:15.880
<v Speaker 1>looking at it, and this thing was wide. It kept

635
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:17.559
<v Speaker 1>looking from the side of the tree like this and

636
00:36:17.639 --> 00:36:20.159
<v Speaker 1>back again. So I'm thinking, well, it's either a bear

637
00:36:20.280 --> 00:36:23.480
<v Speaker 1>or a big person because it's wider than the tree. Okay,

638
00:36:23.599 --> 00:36:25.480
<v Speaker 1>and the tree is really not hiding the probably the

639
00:36:25.480 --> 00:36:28.239
<v Speaker 1>tree is about ten inch or twelve inches diameter, so

640
00:36:28.280 --> 00:36:30.559
<v Speaker 1>it's looking at either side and it's watching Eli and me.

641
00:36:31.320 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 1>So my wife says, John, go to the car and

642
00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 1>get your binocas. Now my car is about one hundred

643
00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:39.360
<v Speaker 1>feet away. So by the time I started to get up,

644
00:36:39.880 --> 00:36:42.320
<v Speaker 1>and I started to walk toward my car looking backwards,

645
00:36:42.800 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 1>and this thing stood up. I'm not ken you Bill.

646
00:36:45.800 --> 00:36:48.119
<v Speaker 1>It was I'm bout i'd say about eight feet tall.

647
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:51.360
<v Speaker 1>It stood up, was black, and it walked really quickly

648
00:36:51.400 --> 00:36:54.400
<v Speaker 1>into the woods. Now at that point I would have

649
00:36:54.440 --> 00:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>went over, but I had Eli with me. He's seven

650
00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:00.159
<v Speaker 1>years old, so I took him to the car and

651
00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 1>I was going to go back the next day, but

652
00:37:01.639 --> 00:37:03.639
<v Speaker 1>I was telling Dan it rained the next day. But

653
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what I did do there was a branch overhanging where

654
00:37:06.920 --> 00:37:09.559
<v Speaker 1>it stood up. The branch is about seven and a

655
00:37:09.599 --> 00:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>half feet tall. Its head was just above that branch. Now,

656
00:37:14.280 --> 00:37:16.599
<v Speaker 1>I know bear. I've hunted bear too. I've killed bear

657
00:37:16.599 --> 00:37:19.440
<v Speaker 1>in my life and beer and everything else. But this

658
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.039
<v Speaker 1>thing was black. Was watching Eli going around in the

659
00:37:23.079 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 1>circle on his bicycle, okay, and watching us. Had Eli

660
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.599
<v Speaker 1>not been with me, I went right over, But like

661
00:37:29.639 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 1>I said, I didn't want to put him in danger.

662
00:37:31.199 --> 00:37:33.199
<v Speaker 1>My wife says, get him out of there, So that's

663
00:37:33.239 --> 00:37:36.320
<v Speaker 1>what I did. But this is in Washington, PA. Now

664
00:37:36.360 --> 00:37:38.880
<v Speaker 1>we've got a lot of sayings. Dan, you know where.

665
00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:41.280
<v Speaker 1>You've seen the area. Bill, you know the area pretty

666
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 1>well as well. We got a lot of woods around

667
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 1>here and things of this nature. Mingo Park's not far

668
00:37:46.400 --> 00:37:48.960
<v Speaker 1>from here where we had our UFO sidings down here,

669
00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:54.039
<v Speaker 1>remember last year. But so the thing is that, you know,

670
00:37:54.320 --> 00:37:56.639
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm getting at, I guess is this a

671
00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.719
<v Speaker 1>fairly urban area. Now this isn't also far from mc murray, PA,

672
00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:04.519
<v Speaker 1>where I actually had my first duel bigwood siding with

673
00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:08.360
<v Speaker 1>twelve other people Donald McMurray Road, which is twelve miles

674
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:12.000
<v Speaker 1>from Pittsburgh. For crying out loud, Now that whole area

675
00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 1>has been developed. They got condos and cookie cutter houses

676
00:38:15.119 --> 00:38:17.639
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, So there's no Bigfoot there. They've driven them out.

677
00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:22.199
<v Speaker 1>But what I'm getting at, yeah, you Bill, you had

678
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:25.440
<v Speaker 1>mentioned to me about us a little bit earlier about

679
00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>how people are going in scaring. There's too many people

680
00:38:27.760 --> 00:38:30.280
<v Speaker 1>in the woods and stuff like that. Well, here's a problem,

681
00:38:30.440 --> 00:38:33.159
<v Speaker 1>not just with Bigfoot, but when they have human habitation

682
00:38:33.280 --> 00:38:37.599
<v Speaker 1>moving end mass, they're driving the wildlife out. Therefore, they're

683
00:38:37.679 --> 00:38:41.480
<v Speaker 1>driving the food source away from Bigfoot. He has to

684
00:38:41.480 --> 00:38:44.519
<v Speaker 1>move further away to get his food and something that

685
00:38:44.679 --> 00:38:48.840
<v Speaker 1>big needs a lot of sustenance to live. Okay, because

686
00:38:48.880 --> 00:38:51.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's a massive creature. I mean it's heavy.

687
00:38:52.719 --> 00:38:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I've been doing some study on that part yet. But

688
00:38:56.840 --> 00:39:02.079
<v Speaker 3>they don't need super massive stuff. They eat as they go.

689
00:39:03.159 --> 00:39:05.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, I know that. But I'm getting at you need

690
00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>from your metabolism. You need so much calories to maintain

691
00:39:11.920 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 1>your metabolism in your weight. Okay, So they hunt deer.

692
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:17.679
<v Speaker 1>We know they eat deer. But here's the strange part

693
00:39:17.760 --> 00:39:19.119
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to bring up. And I talked to you

694
00:39:19.159 --> 00:39:22.679
<v Speaker 1>guys both before about this. You know, the Eastern Bigfoot

695
00:39:22.760 --> 00:39:26.079
<v Speaker 1>doesn't seem to be very aggressive or violent. Except for

696
00:39:26.119 --> 00:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>a few instances. But we got a lot of cattle

697
00:39:28.960 --> 00:39:32.079
<v Speaker 1>around here too, a lot of cattle farms and sheep

698
00:39:32.119 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 1>as well. No sheep or deer to my knowledge in

699
00:39:35.280 --> 00:39:38.599
<v Speaker 1>this area, whatsoever has ever been harmed by a bigfoot

700
00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 1>or taken. Okay, deer is the number one food source.

701
00:39:42.800 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>It's got. I've seen a bigfoot like you have built.

702
00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.519
<v Speaker 1>They got a canines, big canines and molars, which means

703
00:39:49.559 --> 00:39:54.679
<v Speaker 1>they meat and vegetable. That's how they survive. Okay. All

704
00:39:54.679 --> 00:39:57.079
<v Speaker 1>you got to do is follow the berry bushes and

705
00:39:57.119 --> 00:39:59.719
<v Speaker 1>the deer, and you're probably gonna run into a big

706
00:39:59.719 --> 00:40:02.920
<v Speaker 1>foot at some point if you're quiet enough. Okay, But

707
00:40:03.440 --> 00:40:06.920
<v Speaker 1>what I'm getting at again is that I guess what

708
00:40:07.000 --> 00:40:09.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to say is that this is part of

709
00:40:09.079 --> 00:40:12.039
<v Speaker 1>the investigative techniques I've been trying to get across to

710
00:40:12.639 --> 00:40:15.280
<v Speaker 1>people who want to get into this field, to do

711
00:40:15.320 --> 00:40:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it the proper way, to look for certain things. You know, Bill,

712
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.840
<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about, you do too, Dan, You know

713
00:40:21.159 --> 00:40:23.320
<v Speaker 1>you got you just can't. I've had so many people

714
00:40:23.320 --> 00:40:25.679
<v Speaker 1>come up to me recently because I've been all over

715
00:40:25.679 --> 00:40:28.639
<v Speaker 1>the place too. I was up about two months ago

716
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>up to a Mingo or not Mingo, Ohio Powell, and

717
00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 1>we were I was a guy. There's a guy up here,

718
00:40:34.199 --> 00:40:36.639
<v Speaker 1>he does a video recording. He saw a big ufo

719
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.840
<v Speaker 1>photographed and we were talking. Anyhow, I think I send

720
00:40:39.880 --> 00:40:42.679
<v Speaker 1>that to you, Dan, But uh, the thing is that

721
00:40:43.320 --> 00:40:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I talked to one of the forest rangers there. They've

722
00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 1>had three sightings up there by Ohio Powell, three just

723
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:56.920
<v Speaker 1>recently recently.

724
00:41:00.000 --> 00:41:02.639
<v Speaker 4>Wlain while they have, you know, because I've been there.

725
00:41:02.679 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 4>I was taken there to Ohio Pile one time back

726
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.679
<v Speaker 4>back when I was with Jessica. But we went into

727
00:41:09.719 --> 00:41:12.039
<v Speaker 4>the store. One of the stores there, they actually had

728
00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:15.360
<v Speaker 4>bigfoot souvenirs there. They had bigfoot mugs, they had bigfoot

729
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:21.280
<v Speaker 4>camping chairs. Yeah, I mean so I always when I

730
00:41:21.280 --> 00:41:23.079
<v Speaker 4>see stuff like that in a store, I was like, Okay,

731
00:41:23.159 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 4>maybe there's something out here, maybe there's reports or stories

732
00:41:26.480 --> 00:41:30.840
<v Speaker 4>or legends out this way. But we were all, yeah,

733
00:41:30.880 --> 00:41:33.039
<v Speaker 4>we were taken out there by an older couple that

734
00:41:33.119 --> 00:41:36.679
<v Speaker 4>actually the one lady it was hurt and her boyfriend

735
00:41:36.760 --> 00:41:38.840
<v Speaker 4>all if we're still together. I haven't spoke to her

736
00:41:38.840 --> 00:41:41.400
<v Speaker 4>in a while, but she actually when we went to

737
00:41:41.480 --> 00:41:46.119
<v Speaker 4>the Moral Fire Department event held by the kind of

738
00:41:46.119 --> 00:41:49.320
<v Speaker 4>bigfoot group. While the couple came in at the last

739
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:52.159
<v Speaker 4>minute and started talking to me and Jessica and was

740
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 4>telling about stuff they seen on their property and this

741
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:57.840
<v Speaker 4>and that. Next you know, we're meeting up with them

742
00:41:57.960 --> 00:42:01.320
<v Speaker 4>the next day. They're taking us out showing us. We

743
00:42:01.440 --> 00:42:04.480
<v Speaker 4>got taken out the Ohio Pile. We stopped there to

744
00:42:04.599 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 4>see the waterfall and you know, we had something to

745
00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.440
<v Speaker 4>eat while we were there, checked out the souvenir shops,

746
00:42:10.480 --> 00:42:14.639
<v Speaker 4>which was awesome, and then we went to the actual property,

747
00:42:14.679 --> 00:42:18.119
<v Speaker 4>which was a little bit beyond there, and she took

748
00:42:18.199 --> 00:42:21.800
<v Speaker 4>us to her property and she actually walked us and

749
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:24.920
<v Speaker 4>talked us through what she had witnessed out there, which

750
00:42:25.000 --> 00:42:29.480
<v Speaker 4>was quite It sounded pretty incredible to me. She did

751
00:42:29.519 --> 00:42:32.880
<v Speaker 4>see something. I got to give her that because.

752
00:42:33.719 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 2>You knew Doug Lockhart is right, oh yeah, yeah, okay, okay, Well,

753
00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:43.360
<v Speaker 2>we wanted to do a camp out this well back

754
00:42:43.400 --> 00:42:45.679
<v Speaker 2>in May, and he had to back out for the

755
00:42:45.719 --> 00:42:48.440
<v Speaker 2>last minute, the last minute out there on Chestnut Ridge.

756
00:42:48.440 --> 00:42:50.840
<v Speaker 1>That's all part of the Chestnut Ridge, Okay, but it's

757
00:42:50.880 --> 00:42:53.440
<v Speaker 1>around that area Ohio Pound stuff and I went up

758
00:42:53.480 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 1>and scouted out the area and stuff and uh, they've had.

759
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:59.719
<v Speaker 1>He's actually had sightings up there himself, as has other

760
00:42:59.800 --> 00:43:02.320
<v Speaker 1>men in his group. I'm also in that group, but

761
00:43:02.599 --> 00:43:04.519
<v Speaker 1>U and they want me to do it again this summer,

762
00:43:04.559 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 1>come up with him and have a big camp out.

763
00:43:06.159 --> 00:43:08.800
<v Speaker 1>But there's been a lot of fightings because I remember

764
00:43:08.840 --> 00:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>how you know you've been there, both, you guys.

765
00:43:12.119 --> 00:43:18.719
<v Speaker 3>Well, Chestnut Ridge, if you look at from the Google

766
00:43:19.280 --> 00:43:22.920
<v Speaker 3>eye looking down, it doesn't look that big, but it

767
00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:23.719
<v Speaker 3>is huge.

768
00:43:24.119 --> 00:43:27.760
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, absolutely, I've done some researcher on looking at.

769
00:43:27.599 --> 00:43:30.800
<v Speaker 5>The overall territory of that ridge.

770
00:43:31.320 --> 00:43:33.280
<v Speaker 4>It is larger than you realize.

771
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:38.320
<v Speaker 3>And if you do a topographical on top of that exactly, yeah,

772
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 3>oh my god, you're gonna find where they're running through. Well,

773
00:43:46.199 --> 00:43:49.000
<v Speaker 3>they're highways they're getting around that, let's put it that way.

774
00:43:49.039 --> 00:43:52.039
<v Speaker 1>Well, we also have Laurel Caverns up here, and what

775
00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:54.159
<v Speaker 1>I used to when I was young, I used to

776
00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:56.039
<v Speaker 1>work at Laurel Caverns. I used to ge take tours

777
00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:59.639
<v Speaker 1>down to the unexplored part. Uh. But what people don't

778
00:43:59.719 --> 00:44:02.320
<v Speaker 1>know that there's two entrances to Laurel cavern the main

779
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:05.119
<v Speaker 1>entrance where they take people down, and then one way

780
00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:08.800
<v Speaker 1>down the road. It's a huge cave system. Okay, there's

781
00:44:08.840 --> 00:44:11.280
<v Speaker 1>a lot of caves throughout that area, okay, a lot

782
00:44:11.280 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 1>of places for something that big to forge, a lot

783
00:44:14.239 --> 00:44:17.519
<v Speaker 1>of deer, okay, lots of deer, lots of places to drink.

784
00:44:17.559 --> 00:44:19.960
<v Speaker 1>There's fluids, I mean, water and everything else up there.

785
00:44:20.039 --> 00:44:23.360
<v Speaker 1>So but it's all they call that area Chestnut Ridge.

786
00:44:23.599 --> 00:44:27.960
<v Speaker 1>They called Chestnut Ridge in fact, Pennsylvania's Twilight Zone because

787
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.199
<v Speaker 1>they've had so many different things going on up there.

788
00:44:30.719 --> 00:44:32.679
<v Speaker 4>And I can tell you, I could tell you the

789
00:44:32.840 --> 00:44:34.119
<v Speaker 4>stories when I was up there.

790
00:44:34.199 --> 00:44:39.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it is, it really is, and it's a

791
00:44:39.440 --> 00:44:42.440
<v Speaker 3>beautiful area, but it is the Twilight Zone too.

792
00:44:43.400 --> 00:44:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know they have Wait a.

793
00:44:45.719 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 3>Minute, we're getting way off track. I want to hear

794
00:44:47.800 --> 00:44:50.840
<v Speaker 3>the rest of that part of that lady that was

795
00:44:50.880 --> 00:44:51.760
<v Speaker 3>at the camp out.

796
00:44:52.079 --> 00:44:54.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm sorry, Yeah.

797
00:44:56.360 --> 00:44:58.000
<v Speaker 4>Oh you're talking about the one I was talking about.

798
00:44:58.239 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

799
00:45:00.239 --> 00:45:04.079
<v Speaker 4>Well, I mean, like I said, I did not learn

800
00:45:04.119 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 4>about this till after I.

801
00:45:06.119 --> 00:45:07.840
<v Speaker 5>Was already gone.

802
00:45:08.559 --> 00:45:11.400
<v Speaker 4>The story, after she's claimed to have seen what she's seen.

803
00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:15.119
<v Speaker 4>I guess when they drove back from where the gate

804
00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:17.960
<v Speaker 4>was where you have to park at the gate and

805
00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:20.360
<v Speaker 4>then walked to get to the lake. Well, apparently they

806
00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:22.199
<v Speaker 4>didn't get that far after she has seen what she

807
00:45:22.280 --> 00:45:25.840
<v Speaker 4>has seen here now at the time from the way

808
00:45:25.920 --> 00:45:30.119
<v Speaker 4>it's explained, like even in the video, she explains her

809
00:45:30.239 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 4>husband thought she saw a bear. So she really started

810
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:37.400
<v Speaker 4>to get into details and explain when they got back

811
00:45:37.440 --> 00:45:40.239
<v Speaker 4>to camp to talk to when they were talking to

812
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.039
<v Speaker 4>Melissa and David that were still at the camp and

813
00:45:43.159 --> 00:45:43.519
<v Speaker 4>started to.

814
00:45:43.639 --> 00:45:46.000
<v Speaker 5>Explaining to them, and her husband didn't know some of

815
00:45:46.039 --> 00:45:46.760
<v Speaker 5>the details.

816
00:45:47.679 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 4>And everybody they're like, Wilsten David, we all live in

817
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:54.360
<v Speaker 4>Shandoa Valley. We know about bears. I mean I myself,

818
00:45:54.400 --> 00:45:57.679
<v Speaker 4>I've witnessed them over the years, some close some distance.

819
00:45:58.159 --> 00:46:01.920
<v Speaker 4>I know my bears like to it. You know, Melissa

820
00:46:01.920 --> 00:46:04.199
<v Speaker 4>and David, they grew up here. They lived in the

821
00:46:04.280 --> 00:46:06.559
<v Speaker 4>valley most of their lives, even though they're from Kentucky

822
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:12.639
<v Speaker 4>and whatnot. But that girl, yes, yeah, that's that's uh.

823
00:46:13.159 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 4>That's David's wife, Melissa. Yeah, she's a little younger than David. Oh,

824
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:24.079
<v Speaker 4>you will love them. They're great people, David, both David

825
00:46:24.079 --> 00:46:28.280
<v Speaker 4>and Blissam. David's retired from the military, also retired. He's

826
00:46:28.320 --> 00:46:31.719
<v Speaker 4>also a Rockingham Police Department retiree. He's had two full

827
00:46:31.920 --> 00:46:36.480
<v Speaker 4>too full time careers retired from military and the law enforcement. Uh.

828
00:46:36.920 --> 00:46:39.119
<v Speaker 5>Most and David, they actually met each other when they

829
00:46:39.159 --> 00:46:41.199
<v Speaker 5>were while they were still in the military.

830
00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:44.519
<v Speaker 4>David like to keep in mind, David and Melissa, there's

831
00:46:44.519 --> 00:46:47.320
<v Speaker 4>there's a slight age difference they met, you know, she's

832
00:46:47.599 --> 00:46:48.239
<v Speaker 4>a little.

833
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:48.719
<v Speaker 5>Younger than David.

834
00:46:48.960 --> 00:46:51.239
<v Speaker 4>But yeah, I know so.

835
00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:54.480
<v Speaker 5>But yeah, they both met while they were in the.

836
00:46:54.519 --> 00:46:58.280
<v Speaker 4>Armies and everything and all that good stuff. But yeah, Uh,

837
00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:03.039
<v Speaker 4>Melissa is from the Shannon Valley. She knows all the

838
00:47:03.079 --> 00:47:05.960
<v Speaker 4>wireless she grew up here, you know, right, But so

839
00:47:06.480 --> 00:47:09.800
<v Speaker 4>when I can't think of the lady's name right at

840
00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:12.599
<v Speaker 4>the top of my head, but her husband when they

841
00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:16.079
<v Speaker 4>were all talking and she was sharing this information like

842
00:47:16.280 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 4>her husband's like, you didn't tell me all that, you know,

843
00:47:20.079 --> 00:47:22.800
<v Speaker 4>And then when they realized when they saw when she

844
00:47:22.880 --> 00:47:25.639
<v Speaker 4>was explaining what she saw and what it did, that

845
00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:27.679
<v Speaker 4>was not a bear. She didn't see a bear. She

846
00:47:27.760 --> 00:47:31.320
<v Speaker 4>saw a young juvenile. I mean what she estimated the

847
00:47:31.360 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 4>height to me, it was probably about five no more

848
00:47:33.719 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 4>than six feet if that. It sounds like they saw

849
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:44.800
<v Speaker 4>a young black juvenile sasquatch, you know. And yeah, because

850
00:47:44.920 --> 00:47:47.239
<v Speaker 4>it was on two feet from the time she started

851
00:47:47.400 --> 00:47:49.960
<v Speaker 4>till the time it ran off. It ran real fast

852
00:47:50.079 --> 00:47:54.880
<v Speaker 4>on two feet, and she's kind of dumb, and I'm like,

853
00:47:55.440 --> 00:47:57.280
<v Speaker 4>she's kind of ignorant when it comes to wildlife. She

854
00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:59.960
<v Speaker 4>had no idea. Bears don't run that fast on two feet.

855
00:48:00.480 --> 00:48:00.960
<v Speaker 4>All right.

856
00:48:01.039 --> 00:48:04.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, I lived down on Chestnut Ridge. My wife and

857
00:48:04.599 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 3>I bought a camper put on the property though they

858
00:48:07.320 --> 00:48:13.199
<v Speaker 3>live in, and we had a nice eight by twelve

859
00:48:13.320 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 3>porch put on the front of it deck and uh,

860
00:48:17.920 --> 00:48:21.280
<v Speaker 3>and we had a five hundred pounds sell come walking

861
00:48:21.320 --> 00:48:27.159
<v Speaker 3>down the the street, turned, went across the front side

862
00:48:27.199 --> 00:48:31.800
<v Speaker 3>of my port and down through my yord, down past

863
00:48:31.880 --> 00:48:35.039
<v Speaker 3>the garage that is the Model T garage, so you

864
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:39.239
<v Speaker 3>couldn't put nothing in there but storage. Uh. Down past that,

865
00:48:39.480 --> 00:48:43.679
<v Speaker 3>down over the hill, through the the parking lot of

866
00:48:43.760 --> 00:48:48.599
<v Speaker 3>the post office, and went on down along the river.

867
00:48:52.039 --> 00:48:55.400
<v Speaker 3>Now my big foot sighting, you guys know. And for

868
00:48:55.480 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 3>the audience out there, I was fifteen feet away from it,

869
00:49:00.320 --> 00:49:03.239
<v Speaker 3>and I still got people ask me you SURET wasn't

870
00:49:03.280 --> 00:49:04.079
<v Speaker 3>a bear.

871
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:06.639
<v Speaker 1>When you see when you.

872
00:49:08.039 --> 00:49:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Excuse me, yeah you know you don't.

873
00:49:11.480 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, uh yeah, I'm positive was not a bear.

874
00:49:16.400 --> 00:49:23.880
<v Speaker 3>So that's why now I got shirts, cups, decals. Oh yeah,

875
00:49:24.239 --> 00:49:25.400
<v Speaker 3>it's just a bear.

876
00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I love that. That was a genius idea to

877
00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:29.800
<v Speaker 4>come up with that.

878
00:49:31.719 --> 00:49:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you guys a question? Can I answer

879
00:49:33.800 --> 00:49:37.400
<v Speaker 1>you both the questions? Okay, since we're talking about Bigfoot

880
00:49:37.440 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously and stuff, I have my opinions on what it is,

881
00:49:41.400 --> 00:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>but I want to hear what you guys each one.

882
00:49:43.559 --> 00:49:46.559
<v Speaker 1>First of all, Bill, what do you think Bigfoot really is?

883
00:49:47.599 --> 00:49:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I've been talking about this for the last six

884
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:55.840
<v Speaker 3>months this way, and I'm going to stick with it.

885
00:49:56.719 --> 00:49:58.800
<v Speaker 4>My response might be what Mill says. I don't know

886
00:49:58.800 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 4>what Mill says, but it might be what I saw.

887
00:50:03.679 --> 00:50:14.639
<v Speaker 3>It was prettier than John, but as ugly as day. Uh.

888
00:50:15.159 --> 00:50:17.480
<v Speaker 3>When I saw it, and I presume what it was,

889
00:50:17.960 --> 00:50:24.760
<v Speaker 3>it was flesh and black, I preciate. Did it run

890
00:50:24.840 --> 00:50:27.880
<v Speaker 3>to go down over the hill? When it turned and

891
00:50:27.920 --> 00:50:30.719
<v Speaker 3>went down, it was going down over the hill. I

892
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:34.440
<v Speaker 3>was running backwards. But when it got down over the hill,

893
00:50:34.599 --> 00:50:39.239
<v Speaker 3>did it jump through a poral? I don't know. I

894
00:50:39.280 --> 00:50:43.039
<v Speaker 3>didn't see it. Did it go beat me up? Scottie?

895
00:50:43.840 --> 00:50:48.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I didn't see it. But but elaborate

896
00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:56.159
<v Speaker 3>a little more on that winter time m hm the

897
00:50:56.199 --> 00:51:00.639
<v Speaker 3>people up here in Mercer County, Pennsylvania, northern art where

898
00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.519
<v Speaker 3>it gets a lot more snow than where I'm at.

899
00:51:03.599 --> 00:51:10.559
<v Speaker 3>Right here, A couple of winters ago, the tracks going

900
00:51:11.599 --> 00:51:16.960
<v Speaker 3>through their backyard the one morning they saw it after

901
00:51:17.000 --> 00:51:22.199
<v Speaker 3>it snowed all night, and there's these tracks. They stopped

902
00:51:22.199 --> 00:51:23.760
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of the yard and they still got

903
00:51:23.760 --> 00:51:26.360
<v Speaker 3>another one hundred yards to get to the woodline. Where

904
00:51:26.400 --> 00:51:26.840
<v Speaker 3>did it go?

905
00:51:30.920 --> 00:51:32.239
<v Speaker 1>Okay, a portal?

906
00:51:32.360 --> 00:51:36.920
<v Speaker 3>Did it get beamed up? Where did it go? Don't know?

907
00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 3>So I don't know what the hell it is. O.

908
00:51:43.480 --> 00:51:44.280
<v Speaker 1>That's a fair sase.

909
00:51:44.360 --> 00:51:48.079
<v Speaker 3>I believe I deep down inside, I want to believe

910
00:51:48.119 --> 00:51:51.960
<v Speaker 3>it's flesh and blood, but I don't know. So I

911
00:51:51.960 --> 00:51:53.639
<v Speaker 3>got to keep it open in mind.

912
00:51:54.280 --> 00:51:56.039
<v Speaker 1>No, I guess what I was trying. I should have

913
00:51:56.119 --> 00:51:58.920
<v Speaker 1>elaborate a little bit more. Do you think that it's

914
00:51:59.119 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 1>a mere animal or you think it's something more just?

915
00:52:04.000 --> 00:52:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. We don't have enough information to make

916
00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 3>that speculation. We don't know what it is.

917
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.599
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Okay, Well.

918
00:52:13.199 --> 00:52:15.760
<v Speaker 3>I could I could say, oh, yeah, I'm going along

919
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 3>with Dan, it's flesh and blood, and then I say, oh, John,

920
00:52:19.480 --> 00:52:21.679
<v Speaker 3>he's in the paranorma I'll go along with him. No,

921
00:52:21.800 --> 00:52:22.840
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I just.

922
00:52:26.199 --> 00:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me hear what Dan says about it. Now.

923
00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:33.199
<v Speaker 4>Well, first of all, there's one thing I've heard you mentioned, John,

924
00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:35.280
<v Speaker 4>which I kind of think about that a lot, and

925
00:52:35.519 --> 00:52:37.880
<v Speaker 4>I have to agree to that. Talking about maybe they

926
00:52:37.960 --> 00:52:40.559
<v Speaker 4>backtrack their own steps, however.

927
00:52:41.360 --> 00:52:43.719
<v Speaker 5>I mean talking about the flesh and blood.

928
00:52:44.800 --> 00:52:47.360
<v Speaker 4>That's where I've always stood on the flesh and blood

929
00:52:47.400 --> 00:52:51.679
<v Speaker 4>because to me, honestly, my honest opinion is, flesh and

930
00:52:51.760 --> 00:52:56.679
<v Speaker 4>blood happens to leave a physical evidence behind, you know, right,

931
00:52:56.719 --> 00:52:59.719
<v Speaker 4>to me, that's makes sense. If they're leaving evidence behind,

932
00:53:00.239 --> 00:53:01.880
<v Speaker 4>they have to be flesh and blood, is what we

933
00:53:01.960 --> 00:53:07.800
<v Speaker 4>would assume. I do try to keep an open mind

934
00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:09.920
<v Speaker 4>on various things because I've heard a lot of different

935
00:53:09.920 --> 00:53:13.159
<v Speaker 4>stories and a lot of different claims. But with what

936
00:53:13.840 --> 00:53:18.519
<v Speaker 4>Build just presented, I've heard it's not often. I've heard

937
00:53:18.519 --> 00:53:20.840
<v Speaker 4>it only on a very few occasions that you might

938
00:53:20.880 --> 00:53:22.760
<v Speaker 4>see a trackway and it all of a sudden it stopped.

939
00:53:23.039 --> 00:53:25.519
<v Speaker 4>What happened? Where did it go? Now?

940
00:53:25.880 --> 00:53:28.599
<v Speaker 5>You hear about the story in the snow, but.

941
00:53:31.119 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 4>I think about it, or hear about tracks that are

942
00:53:33.440 --> 00:53:36.159
<v Speaker 4>a trackway that's found in the clearing and the opening

943
00:53:36.599 --> 00:53:41.679
<v Speaker 4>in soil. To me, if a trackway disappears, the one

944
00:53:41.760 --> 00:53:46.280
<v Speaker 4>logical explanation that comes to mind is, for example, I've

945
00:53:46.320 --> 00:53:50.119
<v Speaker 4>witnessed bear tracks, very large bear tracks, going through a

946
00:53:50.239 --> 00:53:53.800
<v Speaker 4>power line area where the soil is pretty soft in

947
00:53:53.880 --> 00:53:57.920
<v Speaker 4>most of the area I'm seeing, I'm following a bear tracks,

948
00:53:58.280 --> 00:53:59.840
<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, the bear tracks come to

949
00:53:59.880 --> 00:54:04.679
<v Speaker 4>a dead stop. Where did they go? My explanation for

950
00:54:04.760 --> 00:54:08.119
<v Speaker 4>that is, well, first of all, be observant, look at

951
00:54:08.119 --> 00:54:13.039
<v Speaker 4>the ground, look at the terrain. Exactly became firm. I

952
00:54:13.039 --> 00:54:15.599
<v Speaker 4>if you have enough weight, I'm you know, I'm well.

953
00:54:15.639 --> 00:54:17.519
<v Speaker 4>Over the years, I've lost a lot of weight. I'm

954
00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.239
<v Speaker 4>probably around two hundred pounds right now. I used to

955
00:54:20.280 --> 00:54:23.679
<v Speaker 4>be over two sixty. I mean, even jumping and throwing

956
00:54:23.679 --> 00:54:26.079
<v Speaker 4>your weight down with one foot you might leave an impression.

957
00:54:26.800 --> 00:54:30.639
<v Speaker 4>But normal stop stepping and walking. You have a five

958
00:54:30.719 --> 00:54:34.320
<v Speaker 4>hundred plus pound black bear leaving these trackways, and then

959
00:54:34.320 --> 00:54:35.480
<v Speaker 4>they come to a dead stop.

960
00:54:36.400 --> 00:54:38.159
<v Speaker 5>You got to think, well, why are.

961
00:54:38.039 --> 00:54:41.239
<v Speaker 4>You not seeing the tracks no more? Again, you might

962
00:54:41.320 --> 00:54:45.159
<v Speaker 4>have a soft ground here a foot to two feet away,

963
00:54:45.400 --> 00:54:47.079
<v Speaker 4>it might become firm and solid.

964
00:54:47.159 --> 00:54:50.639
<v Speaker 3>They're not going to leave, and I didn't right, you're

965
00:54:50.719 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 3>right right with that. I witnessed that, and I have

966
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:57.920
<v Speaker 3>to witness and they say, how can we just see

967
00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.639
<v Speaker 3>the one and not another one? And I showed the person.

968
00:55:00.679 --> 00:55:04.960
<v Speaker 3>I says, look that's soft brown right there. The five

969
00:55:05.039 --> 00:55:11.920
<v Speaker 3>foot spread that they walk, How solid is that? Oh right?

970
00:55:12.039 --> 00:55:12.159
<v Speaker 4>You know?

971
00:55:14.440 --> 00:55:19.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I got thrown in a position to show three

972
00:55:20.639 --> 00:55:23.840
<v Speaker 3>people that never been out on a research got invited.

973
00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:27.719
<v Speaker 3>Mary Faven invited him to come on. There was a

974
00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.679
<v Speaker 3>sighting on a Wednesday. I wanted to go investigate it.

975
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:34.400
<v Speaker 3>We went on a Saturday. She invited three inexperienced people.

976
00:55:35.079 --> 00:55:37.440
<v Speaker 3>She says, Bill. As we get there, she says, I

977
00:55:37.519 --> 00:55:38.719
<v Speaker 3>need you to show them.

978
00:55:39.480 --> 00:55:39.639
<v Speaker 4>Now.

979
00:55:39.639 --> 00:55:42.880
<v Speaker 3>I rode to the area with her. She never said

980
00:55:42.920 --> 00:55:45.320
<v Speaker 3>nothing like that to me till we got there. So

981
00:55:45.480 --> 00:55:48.280
<v Speaker 3>now I got to teach these people how to investigate

982
00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 3>while I'm doing an investigation. And it's like, I was

983
00:55:54.239 --> 00:55:57.679
<v Speaker 3>not happy about that, but these people listen to me.

984
00:55:58.559 --> 00:56:03.719
<v Speaker 3>I made them study it, try to figure out what

985
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:08.400
<v Speaker 3>caused it, like on a tree break and now and then,

986
00:56:09.039 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 3>and I pointed a bunch of things out. But the

987
00:56:13.320 --> 00:56:15.880
<v Speaker 3>thing is, you've got to be able to look at

988
00:56:15.920 --> 00:56:20.960
<v Speaker 3>this stuff and don't say it's bigfoot, prove that it's not.

989
00:56:22.000 --> 00:56:26.039
<v Speaker 1>It was right, right, Okay, let's go. Here's what I

990
00:56:26.079 --> 00:56:27.719
<v Speaker 1>want to say about this. If you don't mind, but

991
00:56:27.760 --> 00:56:30.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna do. I'm going to say this. I also

992
00:56:30.360 --> 00:56:32.880
<v Speaker 1>got within between fifteen and thirteen foot of a ten

993
00:56:32.920 --> 00:56:35.639
<v Speaker 1>foot tall bigfoot with my I showed Dan the area

994
00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and I actually took your yeah, and I got with him. Now, listen,

995
00:56:42.320 --> 00:56:45.039
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's flesh and blood. First of all, without

996
00:56:45.039 --> 00:56:47.679
<v Speaker 1>a doubt. I've seen him at least four times in

997
00:56:47.719 --> 00:56:51.639
<v Speaker 1>my life. Okay, I saw this creature. I smelled it

998
00:56:51.679 --> 00:56:56.559
<v Speaker 1>before I saw it. Okay, smelled it smelled like death,

999
00:56:56.639 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 1>like dead animals and everything else. Okay. When I got close,

1000
00:57:00.199 --> 00:57:01.679
<v Speaker 1>I looked at this thing and it looked back at

1001
00:57:01.679 --> 00:57:04.480
<v Speaker 1>me with those eyes. And I told you guys this before.

1002
00:57:05.800 --> 00:57:09.960
<v Speaker 1>Primates don't have eyes. Shine this thing did. It looked

1003
00:57:09.960 --> 00:57:13.159
<v Speaker 1>at me. It studied me. I felt that infra sound

1004
00:57:13.159 --> 00:57:17.239
<v Speaker 1>that everybody talks about beating against my chest. Okay, it

1005
00:57:17.280 --> 00:57:20.880
<v Speaker 1>looked at me and studied me. Now you talk about footprints.

1006
00:57:21.360 --> 00:57:27.480
<v Speaker 1>It left almost twenty two inch long footprints in the snow. Okay,

1007
00:57:27.519 --> 00:57:29.639
<v Speaker 1>because there was snow on the grassy area not on

1008
00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 1>the road. Well, listen, you talk about you don't know

1009
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:36.280
<v Speaker 1>about portals and stuff where they use pearls. My own

1010
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.840
<v Speaker 1>personal belief is this, it does not use portal. But

1011
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 1>that's my belief. But I'll tell you what I think happens.

1012
00:57:43.719 --> 00:57:47.360
<v Speaker 1>When I saw that thing move, it moved faster. You

1013
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.800
<v Speaker 1>guys know how fast a deer goes? Yeah, dead stop.

1014
00:57:51.519 --> 00:57:54.079
<v Speaker 1>This thing was faster than any deer I've ever seen

1015
00:57:54.079 --> 00:57:57.039
<v Speaker 1>in my life. It was almost a blur, that's how

1016
00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:01.199
<v Speaker 1>fast it moved. A blur thirty feet and a blink

1017
00:58:01.239 --> 00:58:04.400
<v Speaker 1>of an eye three steps going into the woods. I

1018
00:58:04.480 --> 00:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>tried to follow this thing. I couldn't keep up with it.

1019
00:58:06.840 --> 00:58:09.159
<v Speaker 1>I heard it crashing through the wood. But here's the

1020
00:58:09.239 --> 00:58:11.599
<v Speaker 1>thing about that. The area it was in was kind

1021
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.280
<v Speaker 1>of open at first. But when you step into the woods,

1022
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.079
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have a bunch of small limbs and

1023
00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:19.760
<v Speaker 1>things like that on the ground, and it makes almost

1024
00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:22.599
<v Speaker 1>like a carpet, And these things canna walk on a carpet. Light,

1025
00:58:23.400 --> 00:58:26.360
<v Speaker 1>And because it's foots so wide, it spreads out its sweet.

1026
00:58:26.719 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 1>So if it's walking through these areas like that, it's

1027
00:58:29.199 --> 00:58:31.760
<v Speaker 1>not gonna leave a footprint. It's not gonna leave an

1028
00:58:31.760 --> 00:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>impression you were recognize first of all, is what I'm

1029
00:58:34.039 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 1>getting at. But I do believe in my heart that

1030
00:58:38.840 --> 00:58:42.199
<v Speaker 1>doesn't use portals. I also believe I don't know what

1031
00:58:42.239 --> 00:58:44.360
<v Speaker 1>it is either. I can tell you what I think

1032
00:58:44.400 --> 00:58:48.039
<v Speaker 1>it's not. I don't think it's a mere animal. It's

1033
00:58:48.039 --> 00:58:52.400
<v Speaker 1>too smart. It's too darn smart. It looked at me

1034
00:58:52.480 --> 00:58:55.440
<v Speaker 1>with eyes. I actually felt these eyes burning into me.

1035
00:58:56.079 --> 00:58:58.960
<v Speaker 1>And what I saw back looking in those eyes was intelligence,

1036
00:58:59.480 --> 00:59:01.760
<v Speaker 1>not dear. I know what deer look like when they

1037
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:03.400
<v Speaker 1>look at you. You know, they're kind of dumb looking

1038
00:59:03.440 --> 00:59:05.360
<v Speaker 1>at you and all that. This was not looking at

1039
00:59:05.400 --> 00:59:07.079
<v Speaker 1>me like a dumb animal. It was looking me like

1040
00:59:07.119 --> 00:59:09.639
<v Speaker 1>it was studying me. And it was tilting his head

1041
00:59:09.679 --> 00:59:12.679
<v Speaker 1>side to thought like this. Okay. So, and it had

1042
00:59:12.679 --> 00:59:16.719
<v Speaker 1>its arms crossed, semi cross, big big diameter arms.

1043
00:59:16.719 --> 00:59:21.360
<v Speaker 3>Okay, the study us. They did study us.

1044
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<v Speaker 1>Well, listen, here's the other thing. I mentioned this the

1045
00:59:23.760 --> 00:59:26.719
<v Speaker 1>other day when I was being interviewed by Dan on

1046
00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 1>the highway. Uh, the chief of police where I used

1047
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to live, saw one in broad daylight off a root

1048
00:59:33.280 --> 00:59:36.679
<v Speaker 1>forty three bill studying and watching cars going up and

1049
00:59:36.679 --> 00:59:40.039
<v Speaker 1>down the road. Okay, he saw.

1050
00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:44.159
<v Speaker 4>That we've had that witness here in Virginia. One of

1051
00:59:44.159 --> 00:59:47.119
<v Speaker 4>the reports that I met up with the eyewitness. Yeah,

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00:59:47.960 --> 00:59:48.800
<v Speaker 4>so I don't.

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00:59:48.559 --> 00:59:51.159
<v Speaker 1>Think it's you know, there's some people think that's a

1054
00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 1>spiritual being. I understand the native of Maic or lore

1055
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:56.519
<v Speaker 1>about it and all that, and how they worshiped it

1056
00:59:56.559 --> 00:59:59.239
<v Speaker 1>and they revered it and everything. I got that. But

1057
00:59:59.360 --> 01:00:03.199
<v Speaker 1>it's my opinion is based on what I've seen myself personally,

1058
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:08.400
<v Speaker 1>is this creature is not a Gigantopithecus, and not a

1059
01:00:08.440 --> 01:00:12.920
<v Speaker 1>descendant Gigantopithecus was we know, had molars. It was primarily

1060
01:00:12.960 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>a vegetarian. This thing eats meat and vegeted vegetable manner. Okay,

1061
01:00:19.320 --> 01:00:22.199
<v Speaker 1>this thing does not have a sagul christ you know that, Bill,

1062
01:00:22.280 --> 01:00:27.360
<v Speaker 1>You know that Dan like a gorilla. Okay, Okay, it's big.

1063
01:00:27.440 --> 01:00:29.880
<v Speaker 1>It's more than twice the size of a mountain gorilla.

1064
01:00:29.920 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 1>For crying out loud, what I saw. The estimated weight

1065
01:00:32.639 --> 01:00:36.239
<v Speaker 1>of this thing was twelve hundred pounds. The biggest biggest

1066
01:00:36.719 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 1>gorilla I've ever heard is around six hundred pounds.

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01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:43.840
<v Speaker 3>Okay, all right, I got a question for you real quick.

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01:00:44.519 --> 01:00:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Sure are you open minded to could be interdimensional it

1069
01:00:50.280 --> 01:00:53.679
<v Speaker 3>still could be interdimensional and flesh and blood.

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01:00:54.440 --> 01:00:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I am open to that, But as far as

1071
01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:00.639
<v Speaker 1>something you could generate a portal itself, I don't go

1072
01:01:00.760 --> 01:01:03.039
<v Speaker 1>for that. I think what can do I think it

1073
01:01:03.079 --> 01:01:05.920
<v Speaker 1>can step in and out of our reality. Yes, I

1074
01:01:06.000 --> 01:01:08.760
<v Speaker 1>got that, and that's interdimensional. But I want to say

1075
01:01:08.760 --> 01:01:11.480
<v Speaker 1>something about that. I have an esteemed friend, we all

1076
01:01:11.559 --> 01:01:15.239
<v Speaker 1>know who he is, and he feels that interdimensional is

1077
01:01:15.280 --> 01:01:19.840
<v Speaker 1>not as the same as extraterrestrial. It is not true. Okay.

1078
01:01:20.159 --> 01:01:25.679
<v Speaker 1>Interdimensional means like from another universe, Okay, coming from another dimension.

1079
01:01:26.519 --> 01:01:34.119
<v Speaker 1>Extraterrestrial means not of the Earth, okaytra extraterrestrial not terterrestrial

1080
01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:37.519
<v Speaker 1>in nature, So there's a difference there. Now. I am

1081
01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:41.519
<v Speaker 1>open to the fact of interdimensional yes, okay, that I'm

1082
01:01:41.559 --> 01:01:44.000
<v Speaker 1>open to. But as you both, you guys know, I've

1083
01:01:44.000 --> 01:01:48.000
<v Speaker 1>talked to you both separately before and together. I've on

1084
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:51.079
<v Speaker 1>been on cases where there's been bigfoot sighting in close

1085
01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:57.159
<v Speaker 1>proximity to a hovering UFO or a grounded UFO or

1086
01:01:57.440 --> 01:02:01.119
<v Speaker 1>supposedly going into or coming out of a UK. Now

1087
01:02:01.159 --> 01:02:03.519
<v Speaker 1>there's been. If it was just one case I was on,

1088
01:02:04.280 --> 01:02:06.480
<v Speaker 1>then I have to just like, yeah, okay, but there's been

1089
01:02:06.519 --> 01:02:09.159
<v Speaker 1>a number I'd say maybe twelve to fifteen cases I've

1090
01:02:09.159 --> 01:02:12.280
<v Speaker 1>been on where people have told me this, highly credible people.

1091
01:02:13.039 --> 01:02:15.360
<v Speaker 1>So I don't know what the connection, if any, is,

1092
01:02:16.760 --> 01:02:19.320
<v Speaker 1>but I can tell you one thing for certain. I

1093
01:02:19.320 --> 01:02:22.400
<v Speaker 1>don't believe it's a mere animal. I don't believe it's

1094
01:02:22.440 --> 01:02:24.559
<v Speaker 1>too smart for a mere animal. Just no way.

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01:02:25.440 --> 01:02:36.360
<v Speaker 3>Well, hold up, lions, elephants, they all use in for sound, Yes, Tigers.

1096
01:02:35.800 --> 01:02:37.280
<v Speaker 5>And several other species.

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01:02:37.360 --> 01:02:41.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, several. I'm just using them as examples real quick.

1098
01:02:41.199 --> 01:02:42.280
<v Speaker 4>Right, Their primary in.

1099
01:02:44.320 --> 01:02:48.679
<v Speaker 3>I got now within for sound twice that'd be pragging

1100
01:02:48.800 --> 01:02:53.000
<v Speaker 3>was with me the one time, okay, and the other

1101
01:02:53.039 --> 01:02:57.800
<v Speaker 3>time I was bear hunting. I'm his chestnut bridge. So

1102
01:03:01.800 --> 01:03:06.360
<v Speaker 3>they can do that. I'm saying it was them, but

1103
01:03:06.480 --> 01:03:08.000
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if it' sure. I didn't see it.

1104
01:03:12.599 --> 01:03:19.519
<v Speaker 3>Can they possess other abilities? Good possibility. They're a higher

1105
01:03:19.639 --> 01:03:21.280
<v Speaker 3>intelligent animal.

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01:03:24.119 --> 01:03:25.920
<v Speaker 4>I agree to that, yes, and.

1107
01:03:27.599 --> 01:03:32.840
<v Speaker 3>But they are only what's smart. They're not street smart.

1108
01:03:34.679 --> 01:03:35.920
<v Speaker 3>You understand what I'm saying.

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01:03:36.719 --> 01:03:39.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think they recognized that we have the

1110
01:03:39.320 --> 01:03:42.079
<v Speaker 1>capability as human beings to hunt them with dogs and

1111
01:03:42.119 --> 01:03:45.320
<v Speaker 1>with weaponry. I think they have that capability otherwise you'd

1112
01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.400
<v Speaker 1>be seeing them a lot more, and they would be

1113
01:03:47.480 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 1>attacking farm animals like cows and sheep. Because if that

1114
01:03:51.400 --> 01:03:54.480
<v Speaker 1>were to happen, especially I just mentioned this earlier, say

1115
01:03:54.480 --> 01:03:57.320
<v Speaker 1>for ins in this area. If a bunch of coles

1116
01:03:57.360 --> 01:04:00.119
<v Speaker 1>turned up missing or dead or torn to pieces, what's

1117
01:04:00.119 --> 01:04:02.760
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. The state police are gonna get involved.

1118
01:04:02.760 --> 01:04:05.519
<v Speaker 1>There's gonna be hunters out there looking for whatever did this. Okay,

1119
01:04:05.679 --> 01:04:08.480
<v Speaker 1>that's not happening yet. We know there's big foot in

1120
01:04:08.480 --> 01:04:12.239
<v Speaker 1>this area. We know that, Okay, So I think.

1121
01:04:12.440 --> 01:04:16.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, wait a minute, Wait a minute, they have been

1122
01:04:16.480 --> 01:04:20.360
<v Speaker 3>reports of it. Don't say it has it, There has been.

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01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:26.639
<v Speaker 3>I've taken reports of it up in h Up in

1124
01:04:26.760 --> 01:04:31.519
<v Speaker 3>New York. I went on that investigation up there in

1125
01:04:31.559 --> 01:04:35.159
<v Speaker 3>February a couple of years ago. I talked to the farmer.

1126
01:04:35.400 --> 01:04:40.239
<v Speaker 3>His chiefs got taken and trapped down and kill pit

1127
01:04:42.400 --> 01:04:48.079
<v Speaker 3>and got slaughtered down in their neat. So and the

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01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:51.679
<v Speaker 3>way they were slaughtered was not coyotes.

1129
01:04:53.639 --> 01:04:56.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, we know there's mountain lines around the area too,

1130
01:04:56.159 --> 01:04:57.159
<v Speaker 1>but catch.

1131
01:04:56.920 --> 01:05:04.159
<v Speaker 3>You, yeah, they do. It's different. It's just now there's

1132
01:05:04.199 --> 01:05:08.599
<v Speaker 3>been reports of them killing the livestock and that and

1133
01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:14.360
<v Speaker 3>killing dogs, and there's been reports I've taken them and

1134
01:05:14.559 --> 01:05:17.519
<v Speaker 3>from credible people they showed me where their dog was

1135
01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:23.039
<v Speaker 3>killed at well I didn't. I'm just saying, you know,

1136
01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:26.800
<v Speaker 3>they do kill these other the pets in their livestock

1137
01:05:27.039 --> 01:05:29.039
<v Speaker 3>and so.

1138
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:32.480
<v Speaker 4>Well, see, I'm agreeing with both of you guys because

1139
01:05:32.880 --> 01:05:35.400
<v Speaker 4>one of the things I'm thinking about every calling on

1140
01:05:35.519 --> 01:05:41.400
<v Speaker 4>certain instances and circumstances and situations overall, just like a

1141
01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:45.960
<v Speaker 4>lot of different prey animals, they're opportunities. Uh, they take,

1142
01:05:46.599 --> 01:05:49.480
<v Speaker 4>you know, if the opportunity arises and presents itself, they're

1143
01:05:49.480 --> 01:05:53.199
<v Speaker 4>going to take it. Yes, for example, you know, back

1144
01:05:53.199 --> 01:05:58.000
<v Speaker 4>of what John was saying, how they're more you know

1145
01:05:58.039 --> 01:06:01.719
<v Speaker 4>they have there have been noticed or seen or spotted

1146
01:06:01.840 --> 01:06:04.239
<v Speaker 4>or claimed to have canine teeth.

1147
01:06:06.079 --> 01:06:07.679
<v Speaker 5>Because you know, they meet.

1148
01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:12.199
<v Speaker 4>However, I agree to that, I mean because also in

1149
01:06:12.239 --> 01:06:15.000
<v Speaker 4>some of the reports I've heard where they've actually seen them,

1150
01:06:15.360 --> 01:06:17.719
<v Speaker 4>some of the eyewitnesses have seen them up close, never

1151
01:06:18.119 --> 01:06:23.039
<v Speaker 4>claim to have seen the canines more like flat teeth

1152
01:06:23.119 --> 01:06:23.559
<v Speaker 4>like we have.

1153
01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I and I believe.

1154
01:06:27.519 --> 01:06:31.760
<v Speaker 4>That depends on the species or what they're adapted to

1155
01:06:32.000 --> 01:06:36.840
<v Speaker 4>as far as eating. Uh that being said, now, let

1156
01:06:36.840 --> 01:06:40.840
<v Speaker 4>me let me present white tailed deer. Now we know

1157
01:06:42.000 --> 01:06:46.159
<v Speaker 4>their their main diet is usually plants and other you know,

1158
01:06:46.519 --> 01:06:51.119
<v Speaker 4>and you know, and yeah, they're mainly vegetarian and they

1159
01:06:51.119 --> 01:06:54.679
<v Speaker 4>don't have we know, they don't have no canines at all.

1160
01:06:56.280 --> 01:06:59.320
<v Speaker 5>However, it's been witnessed on a.

1161
01:06:59.280 --> 01:07:02.840
<v Speaker 4>Few and I say rare occasions.

1162
01:07:02.880 --> 01:07:07.639
<v Speaker 5>They have been witness eating meat. Yes, you know, it's

1163
01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.400
<v Speaker 5>not common, but it's it's been witnessed, and.

1164
01:07:10.840 --> 01:07:13.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, so, I mean, I don't know how often.

1165
01:07:13.159 --> 01:07:14.599
<v Speaker 4>You know, there's a lot of behind the scenes that

1166
01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:16.320
<v Speaker 4>we don't get the witness because you know, we're not

1167
01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:19.840
<v Speaker 4>out the woods observed DAR twenty four to seven, you know, but.

1168
01:07:20.639 --> 01:07:23.639
<v Speaker 5>They have been known to eat meat themselves.

1169
01:07:23.880 --> 01:07:26.000
<v Speaker 1>So well, you made a really good point. Both of

1170
01:07:26.039 --> 01:07:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you meet some really good points about this. And this

1171
01:07:27.800 --> 01:07:30.559
<v Speaker 1>is what I want to say about that. Okay, I'll

1172
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:32.199
<v Speaker 1>cut in on this because I have to say this

1173
01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:35.239
<v Speaker 1>the problem we have nowadays. You just made a really

1174
01:07:35.280 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 1>good issue, a good point. We don't know because a

1175
01:07:39.199 --> 01:07:41.679
<v Speaker 1>lot of people are actually doing this, aren't sharing.

1176
01:07:41.440 --> 01:07:43.559
<v Speaker 3>The information exactly right.

1177
01:07:44.239 --> 01:07:47.719
<v Speaker 1>We need listen, we need a good database. I'm not

1178
01:07:47.840 --> 01:07:50.760
<v Speaker 1>talking about a database of just stories. I'm talking about

1179
01:07:51.360 --> 01:07:54.880
<v Speaker 1>factual database, scientific based database. You guys know what the

1180
01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.119
<v Speaker 1>scientific method is. It's got to be repeatable. Well, and

1181
01:07:58.159 --> 01:08:00.800
<v Speaker 1>I told you this the other night, Dan, we can't

1182
01:08:01.239 --> 01:08:03.880
<v Speaker 1>do that. We have to think outside the box because

1183
01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:06.679
<v Speaker 1>we can't make a big wood show up. Okay, so

1184
01:08:06.719 --> 01:08:12.159
<v Speaker 1>we can repeat the experiment again. Okay, but we need Bill.

1185
01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.760
<v Speaker 1>You know this, and we talked about this too. We

1186
01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:18.199
<v Speaker 1>need credible people who are doing investigations to share them

1187
01:08:18.279 --> 01:08:21.840
<v Speaker 1>information instead of being so damn tight lift about it. Okay,

1188
01:08:22.479 --> 01:08:23.560
<v Speaker 1>that's how we find out.

1189
01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.399
<v Speaker 3>And I've been preaching that from day one, right, me too?

1190
01:08:28.000 --> 01:08:28.960
<v Speaker 3>Uh from day.

1191
01:08:28.800 --> 01:08:31.960
<v Speaker 4>One, Dan, you know that, Yeah, oh for sure.

1192
01:08:33.880 --> 01:08:39.079
<v Speaker 3>And that's the thing. And and the other part of

1193
01:08:39.079 --> 01:08:43.640
<v Speaker 3>that too is we got several different factions in the

1194
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:45.640
<v Speaker 3>crypted world.

1195
01:08:46.359 --> 01:08:48.239
<v Speaker 1>Certain Yeah, and.

1196
01:08:50.520 --> 01:08:54.560
<v Speaker 3>There's a fleshing bud group. You got your extraterrestrial, you

1197
01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:58.039
<v Speaker 3>got your inter dimensional, then you got I don't know,

1198
01:09:00.680 --> 01:09:04.319
<v Speaker 3>like me, I don't know that do they really exist?

1199
01:09:04.920 --> 01:09:08.359
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, prove to me they don't prove me, to

1200
01:09:08.640 --> 01:09:09.720
<v Speaker 1>prove to me that they don't.

1201
01:09:10.279 --> 01:09:14.479
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly. But the thing is, if you're just a

1202
01:09:14.600 --> 01:09:18.920
<v Speaker 3>question blood group and then you mentioned in a dimensional,

1203
01:09:19.279 --> 01:09:22.600
<v Speaker 3>all hell breaks loose. Oh yeah, And if you're kicked

1204
01:09:22.640 --> 01:09:23.439
<v Speaker 3>out of that group.

1205
01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:26.479
<v Speaker 5>Where's the open mind?

1206
01:09:26.840 --> 01:09:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Where's keeping your mind open? And learn and see what

1207
01:09:31.159 --> 01:09:33.520
<v Speaker 3>anything correlates with what you got?

1208
01:09:34.439 --> 01:09:36.960
<v Speaker 1>You know what, something, Bill, I got to say something

1209
01:09:36.960 --> 01:09:39.159
<v Speaker 1>to you. You you made a statement a long time

1210
01:09:39.199 --> 01:09:41.439
<v Speaker 1>ago and you put it on Facebook and I had

1211
01:09:41.479 --> 01:09:43.279
<v Speaker 1>to laugh when I see because I absolutely agree with

1212
01:09:43.319 --> 01:09:45.880
<v Speaker 1>what you said. Paranormal is a new normal.

1213
01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah it is. And you know that's one in my shirts.

1214
01:09:51.399 --> 01:09:56.159
<v Speaker 1>Right, I know. But when you're going with the paranormal basically,

1215
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:59.840
<v Speaker 1>and this comes to that thing about the expert call notation. Okay,

1216
01:10:00.119 --> 01:10:02.680
<v Speaker 1>none of us are damn experts. Okay, there are some

1217
01:10:02.800 --> 01:10:04.800
<v Speaker 1>of us are experiences, and we know a little bit

1218
01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:07.199
<v Speaker 1>more than the average Joe or Jane on the street.

1219
01:10:07.439 --> 01:10:10.119
<v Speaker 1>But we're all looking for the same answers the real

1220
01:10:10.159 --> 01:10:12.520
<v Speaker 1>guys or we're looking for the same answers. We want

1221
01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:14.560
<v Speaker 1>to know what's going on, and the only way to

1222
01:10:14.640 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 1>do that is to do it right. And I don't

1223
01:10:17.000 --> 01:10:21.760
<v Speaker 1>mean Look, there's more entertainment, bigfoot paranormal activity on TV

1224
01:10:22.680 --> 01:10:25.560
<v Speaker 1>than anything else. Yeah, and you're right, Bill, you said

1225
01:10:25.600 --> 01:10:28.399
<v Speaker 1>earlier about the producers. If they're not gonna make money,

1226
01:10:28.439 --> 01:10:29.960
<v Speaker 1>they're not gonna have that show on here, and they

1227
01:10:30.000 --> 01:10:33.479
<v Speaker 1>do it week to week. Okay, let's keep it real. Okay,

1228
01:10:34.279 --> 01:10:36.600
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna they're gonna string this out as long as

1229
01:10:36.600 --> 01:10:38.960
<v Speaker 1>they can because guess what's gonna happen. Let's say, for

1230
01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:43.039
<v Speaker 1>the sake argument, some university or philanthropist comes up and

1231
01:10:43.079 --> 01:10:45.079
<v Speaker 1>he says, I'm going to finance an expedition and they

1232
01:10:45.119 --> 01:10:49.239
<v Speaker 1>somehow manage to trap a bigfoot alive that's into all

1233
01:10:49.279 --> 01:10:53.000
<v Speaker 1>these groups. That's the end of it. They're money maker.

1234
01:10:53.359 --> 01:10:54.920
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are in this to make money

1235
01:10:54.960 --> 01:10:57.960
<v Speaker 1>to line their own pockets. Dan, you're not. You're not,

1236
01:10:58.119 --> 01:11:00.479
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not. I'm not in it to make money.

1237
01:11:00.720 --> 01:11:03.800
<v Speaker 1>I've never charged a penny for one investigation, and I've

1238
01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:07.960
<v Speaker 1>been on over five thousand investigations in my life, over

1239
01:11:08.079 --> 01:11:08.640
<v Speaker 1>five thousand.

1240
01:11:08.920 --> 01:11:13.840
<v Speaker 3>But the thing is too Yeah, I get very upset

1241
01:11:14.079 --> 01:11:18.359
<v Speaker 3>with these all these groups out there. Okay, man, they

1242
01:11:18.399 --> 01:11:21.399
<v Speaker 3>do the investigation, do they share the knowledge? Hell no,

1243
01:11:21.800 --> 01:11:27.399
<v Speaker 3>do they? And they just want to make that almighty dollar. Yeah.

1244
01:11:27.439 --> 01:11:33.039
<v Speaker 3>I'll still like my shirts, my cops, my hats, different

1245
01:11:33.199 --> 01:11:34.279
<v Speaker 3>and different. Yah.

1246
01:11:34.359 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, with.

1247
01:11:35.520 --> 01:11:38.880
<v Speaker 3>These events that pay my way because I don't charge

1248
01:11:38.920 --> 01:11:42.159
<v Speaker 3>to do a presentation. I pay for my gas, I

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01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:47.039
<v Speaker 3>pay for my hotel, you know my food. So yeah,

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01:11:47.079 --> 01:11:50.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm selling this stuff to recruit some of it for

1251
01:11:51.159 --> 01:11:54.840
<v Speaker 3>sharing my knowledge. I'm not there to make a million dollars.

1252
01:11:55.079 --> 01:11:57.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm not doing my podcast to become famous. I'm trying

1253
01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:05.479
<v Speaker 3>to learn and I'm trying. Sure when I find out and.

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01:12:03.520 --> 01:12:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Bill, and it's sure ain't about a facelift. I can

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01:12:05.800 --> 01:12:06.279
<v Speaker 1>tell you that.

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01:12:07.720 --> 01:12:13.039
<v Speaker 3>You're just jealous. I better looking at you.

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01:12:13.039 --> 01:12:13.640
<v Speaker 1>You're younger.

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01:12:13.680 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 4>Hey, Bill, Bill hater's gonna hate let him late.

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01:12:22.800 --> 01:12:28.960
<v Speaker 1>You know, that's gonna be an interesting trip down to Virginia.

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01:12:29.119 --> 01:12:31.279
<v Speaker 1>For real, This is gonna be really interesting. You and

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01:12:31.319 --> 01:12:34.279
<v Speaker 1>my wife in his car. Oh yeah, it's gonna be real.

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01:12:34.800 --> 01:12:36.520
<v Speaker 3>She told me to bring the duct tape.

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01:12:37.039 --> 01:12:39.359
<v Speaker 1>She got some of herself. She got like five rolls.

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01:12:40.239 --> 01:12:43.720
<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey, I can see I can see it now.

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01:12:43.800 --> 01:12:48.239
<v Speaker 4>When you guys arrived to Virginia, you get to the

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01:12:48.239 --> 01:12:50.880
<v Speaker 4>hotel where you guys are gonna settle at. I see

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01:12:50.920 --> 01:12:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Bill a hollow up the car, kissing, kissing the ground.

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01:13:01.640 --> 01:13:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Probably probably Hey, hey.

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01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:07.039
<v Speaker 4>Hey, I'm not presented right now. If you guys want to,

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01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:10.760
<v Speaker 4>it's up totally up to you. But if you don't

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01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:13.560
<v Speaker 4>want to go to the hotel, you guys could camp

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01:13:13.600 --> 01:13:16.279
<v Speaker 4>in the backyard. I got plenty of face for tent camping.

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01:13:16.359 --> 01:13:19.000
<v Speaker 4>But then again, you know, it's up to you guys.

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01:13:19.520 --> 01:13:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I would do it, but my wife is not an

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01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:25.199
<v Speaker 1>outdoor girl. She would kill right, you know what. The

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01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:27.600
<v Speaker 1>only way she'll go camping if I had a forty

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01:13:27.600 --> 01:13:32.359
<v Speaker 1>foot long camper. Okay, she's not gonna do. I would

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01:13:32.439 --> 01:13:33.960
<v Speaker 1>do it, no hard, because I got it. I got

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01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:35.520
<v Speaker 1>all this new camp I got my I don't know,

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01:13:35.560 --> 01:13:37.399
<v Speaker 1>I got all this new camping gear. I haven't even

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01:13:37.399 --> 01:13:42.039
<v Speaker 1>been able to put the use yet, but she got.

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01:13:42.680 --> 01:13:45.359
<v Speaker 4>Well, I'm saying, we got almost four acres of flat

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01:13:45.399 --> 01:13:47.680
<v Speaker 4>grass yard, you know. And then if you guys need

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01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:49.199
<v Speaker 4>to come in and take a shower, you guys got

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01:13:49.399 --> 01:13:51.319
<v Speaker 4>you guys can take a shower inside. You know, we

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01:13:51.439 --> 01:13:53.239
<v Speaker 4>got two bathroom, two showers here.

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01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:57.399
<v Speaker 1>So if you got you got four acres. But if

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01:13:57.439 --> 01:14:02.039
<v Speaker 1>I convinced my camp right, I'm gonna I'll have two acres,

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01:14:02.880 --> 01:14:07.640
<v Speaker 1>got it. I'll have two acres, and they're gonna be

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01:14:07.640 --> 01:14:09.359
<v Speaker 1>good because.

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01:14:09.680 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 4>You guys get yours, all right, and then our next

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01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:14.840
<v Speaker 4>door neighbor. If you gotta want to ride a horse.

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01:14:14.840 --> 01:14:17.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure he'll let your ride shaddle up with the horses.

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01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:19.159
<v Speaker 4>We got horses next door, so.

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01:14:23.960 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 3>Cowns on the other side because John got all of the.

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01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:31.800
<v Speaker 4>Bull Yeah, we got cows over here, and there was

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01:14:31.840 --> 01:14:33.279
<v Speaker 4>like before you turn up our road.

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01:14:33.920 --> 01:14:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Made Bill go to watch us playing that.

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01:14:36.159 --> 01:14:43.359
<v Speaker 4>Damn got the Blueish mountains in the backyard right here,

1300
01:14:43.399 --> 01:14:45.800
<v Speaker 4>which is also known as Skyline Drive, but the Blueish

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01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:47.239
<v Speaker 4>mountains run through our backyard.

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01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:51.119
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's beautiful. That's beautiful.

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01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:54.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we're only fifteen fifteen minutes from the venue.

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01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:58.479
<v Speaker 1>So well, thing we were I was talking to Bill,

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01:14:58.840 --> 01:15:01.479
<v Speaker 1>I looked up there's like more hotels in Verona, which

1306
01:15:01.520 --> 01:15:04.439
<v Speaker 1>is just south of that wires Cape Community Center. And

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01:15:04.520 --> 01:15:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I was telling me and Bill were talking about you

1308
01:15:06.560 --> 01:15:09.640
<v Speaker 1>last week about which one. The cheapest one I found

1309
01:15:09.720 --> 01:15:11.600
<v Speaker 1>was like fifty nine dollars a night but it had

1310
01:15:11.600 --> 01:15:15.239
<v Speaker 1>a pool and everything else. Uh so it's pretty good.

1311
01:15:15.640 --> 01:15:18.720
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, you know, we're gonna have to

1312
01:15:18.720 --> 01:15:20.279
<v Speaker 1>figure out which one we want to stay at.

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01:15:20.520 --> 01:15:24.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well, because I've been tied up doing all this

1314
01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:25.039
<v Speaker 3>other stuff.

1315
01:15:25.720 --> 01:15:28.800
<v Speaker 4>Well, that Verona agent. I don't know what is shown you,

1316
01:15:28.840 --> 01:15:31.319
<v Speaker 4>but there's the one link I sent you. There's actually

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01:15:31.319 --> 01:15:35.359
<v Speaker 4>one hotel there. There's only one if you go just

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01:15:35.399 --> 01:15:38.439
<v Speaker 4>a little bit further south, which is actually considered Stanton,

1319
01:15:39.159 --> 01:15:43.000
<v Speaker 4>uh St, it's pronounced Stanton down here. It's s t

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01:15:43.800 --> 01:15:47.439
<v Speaker 4>A o u N t o N. There's more hotels

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01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:50.520
<v Speaker 4>right off of that exit. But but the one I

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01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 4>sent you, it's a newly remodeble one. I don't know

1323
01:15:53.079 --> 01:15:55.319
<v Speaker 4>nothing about it. I know it's the cheapest one that's

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01:15:55.399 --> 01:16:01.119
<v Speaker 4>closest to our venue. So unless you go are north

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01:16:01.159 --> 01:16:05.760
<v Speaker 4>of our venue, which is in Harrisonburg, Virginia, there's tons

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01:16:05.760 --> 01:16:06.880
<v Speaker 4>of hotels right there.

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01:16:08.000 --> 01:16:13.199
<v Speaker 1>Just so you guys know, I mentioned to you both

1328
01:16:13.239 --> 01:16:16.439
<v Speaker 1>of you before. I made a couple of gifts for you, guys.

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01:16:17.600 --> 01:16:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I made him and uh there there. I think you'll

1330
01:16:20.640 --> 01:16:23.359
<v Speaker 1>really enjoy what I made for you guys. Okay, No, Bill,

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01:16:23.399 --> 01:16:25.319
<v Speaker 1>I can't do nothing about the facelift for you. I

1332
01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:28.079
<v Speaker 1>don't have money for that, but but I did jealous.

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01:16:29.159 --> 01:16:32.159
<v Speaker 1>I know it is you're younger than I am. I

1334
01:16:32.159 --> 01:16:34.800
<v Speaker 1>wish I was your age pick, you know. But anyhow,

1335
01:16:35.760 --> 01:16:37.720
<v Speaker 1>I I did make you a couple of nice gifts

1336
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:39.319
<v Speaker 1>and stuff to bring down and stuff, and I think

1337
01:16:39.319 --> 01:16:41.479
<v Speaker 1>you're really going to like them a lot, so I

1338
01:16:43.560 --> 01:16:46.880
<v Speaker 1>just think about you guys.

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01:16:47.800 --> 01:16:50.800
<v Speaker 4>Go ahead ahead, oh, go ahead.

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01:16:52.000 --> 01:16:54.600
<v Speaker 1>Hopefully Ron will get his vehicle running by then too,

1341
01:16:54.840 --> 01:16:55.000
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:58.600
<v Speaker 4>Uh oh yeah, either way, he'll be good to go,

1343
01:16:59.199 --> 01:17:00.960
<v Speaker 4>even if they have to come down in Christy's car,

1344
01:17:01.079 --> 01:17:03.439
<v Speaker 4>because you know Christy's staying with him now.

1345
01:17:04.319 --> 01:17:09.039
<v Speaker 1>Well. I stopped down here on the day before Christmas

1346
01:17:09.039 --> 01:17:11.199
<v Speaker 1>to give him his Christmas card. He was outside working

1347
01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:14.039
<v Speaker 1>with his coveralls on on his jeep and stuff, and

1348
01:17:14.079 --> 01:17:15.760
<v Speaker 1>he was telling me about he's having problems with I

1349
01:17:15.760 --> 01:17:17.199
<v Speaker 1>gave him a couple of ideas what I thought it

1350
01:17:17.279 --> 01:17:20.000
<v Speaker 1>might be. But uh, hopefully he'll get it taken care of.

1351
01:17:20.119 --> 01:17:22.720
<v Speaker 1>I know it's killing him not to do this, but listen,

1352
01:17:22.720 --> 01:17:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to mention to Dan you know about this,

1353
01:17:25.159 --> 01:17:27.199
<v Speaker 1>Uh Bill, I'm not sure if you do or not,

1354
01:17:27.840 --> 01:17:31.680
<v Speaker 1>but uh, I probably I can mention that Ron had

1355
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:35.680
<v Speaker 1>had him and his fiance both saw something outside the

1356
01:17:35.920 --> 01:17:38.359
<v Speaker 1>trailer down where he lives. And I don't want to

1357
01:17:38.399 --> 01:17:40.399
<v Speaker 1>elaborate hi because up to him to tell everybody what

1358
01:17:40.439 --> 01:17:43.319
<v Speaker 1>he saw. But uh, he wanted me to come down

1359
01:17:43.319 --> 01:17:46.439
<v Speaker 1>here to do an investigation down here. I think it

1360
01:17:46.520 --> 01:17:48.079
<v Speaker 1>might be a good idea for all of this stood

1361
01:17:48.119 --> 01:17:51.560
<v Speaker 1>down here after what he said he saw. Uh, and

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01:17:51.640 --> 01:17:53.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe Ron, he's a very credible person. I know

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01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:56.640
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna lie, but he really saw something up here.

1364
01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:58.520
<v Speaker 1>And that's right down below where that big boot was

1365
01:17:58.600 --> 01:18:00.279
<v Speaker 1>too big foot. In fact, we're up there on that

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01:18:00.680 --> 01:18:04.199
<v Speaker 1>where I took you guys before Dan, so uh oh, yes,

1367
01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:07.680
<v Speaker 1>right down on and then Uh, there's been multiple sightings

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01:18:07.680 --> 01:18:10.800
<v Speaker 1>in the whole area, so there's something going on down there.

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01:18:11.199 --> 01:18:12.920
<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of caves and a lot of empty

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01:18:12.960 --> 01:18:15.880
<v Speaker 1>mines down there and stuff. Well, so a lot of

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01:18:15.880 --> 01:18:17.520
<v Speaker 1>pole that's big behind.

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01:18:18.560 --> 01:18:21.159
<v Speaker 4>Well that's what fascinated me because I had Ron on here,

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01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:25.439
<v Speaker 4>you know, a few days ago, and uh after the

1374
01:18:25.560 --> 01:18:27.920
<v Speaker 4>discussion we got into talking about that towards the end,

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01:18:28.159 --> 01:18:31.039
<v Speaker 4>and uh that's the one thing I mean he's talked

1376
01:18:31.079 --> 01:18:33.079
<v Speaker 4>to me and mentioned it to me before, about the

1377
01:18:33.079 --> 01:18:36.399
<v Speaker 4>different old kde the mind entrances and this and that.

1378
01:18:36.399 --> 01:18:40.640
<v Speaker 4>That's what fascinates to me is you know, you know

1379
01:18:40.760 --> 01:18:46.600
<v Speaker 4>these old unused minds that are being used. Uh.

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01:18:47.000 --> 01:18:49.279
<v Speaker 5>So that's what I would I mean, I would be willing.

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01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:54.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm They're like, hey, take take me up there and

1382
01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:55.760
<v Speaker 2>I'll explore these minds, you know.

1383
01:18:56.000 --> 01:18:57.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I've got bad knees, but I'll still go

1384
01:18:58.000 --> 01:19:00.680
<v Speaker 4>out and do my thing, you know. Oh yeah, I.

1385
01:19:02.399 --> 01:19:04.800
<v Speaker 1>Told him about a cave. He was aware of there.

1386
01:19:04.840 --> 01:19:07.359
<v Speaker 1>But when years ago, when my co investigator and I

1387
01:19:07.439 --> 01:19:09.880
<v Speaker 1>went down we went down to that mine hall which

1388
01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.239
<v Speaker 1>is across from Creston Heights and across from the ridge.

1389
01:19:12.439 --> 01:19:15.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, if you you can almost throw a stone

1390
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:17.399
<v Speaker 1>from the ridge to Creston Heights where the big Foot

1391
01:19:17.520 --> 01:19:20.119
<v Speaker 1>was right and this mine hall was down here, and

1392
01:19:20.279 --> 01:19:23.279
<v Speaker 1>I went down there with Devon and years ago, uh

1393
01:19:23.319 --> 01:19:26.239
<v Speaker 1>back in it was the ninety two, I think it

1394
01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:28.800
<v Speaker 1>was ninety three. I found a cave down here, but

1395
01:19:29.039 --> 01:19:32.239
<v Speaker 1>no one knew existed. It's big enough right to crawl

1396
01:19:32.479 --> 01:19:34.880
<v Speaker 1>because I crawled into Devon's too big. He's six six

1397
01:19:34.880 --> 01:19:37.279
<v Speaker 1>and a half, six hundred and sixty pounds. He couldn't

1398
01:19:37.279 --> 01:19:39.279
<v Speaker 1>fit his buddy in there. But I did. I manage

1399
01:19:39.279 --> 01:19:41.279
<v Speaker 1>to get in there and stuff. But it's a perfect

1400
01:19:41.319 --> 01:19:43.319
<v Speaker 1>hiding place down in there, and no one goes down

1401
01:19:43.319 --> 01:19:46.279
<v Speaker 1>there anymore. And you met you know yourself, Dan, We

1402
01:19:46.359 --> 01:19:49.479
<v Speaker 1>met the new owner of the property down here, Okay, yeah,

1403
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:52.840
<v Speaker 1>And so I can get definitely get permission for him

1404
01:19:52.840 --> 01:19:54.359
<v Speaker 1>to go down here. We can camp out down here

1405
01:19:54.439 --> 01:19:56.279
<v Speaker 1>or up there where the UFO was on the ground,

1406
01:19:56.319 --> 01:19:59.199
<v Speaker 1>I mean either or it overlooks that area. So but

1407
01:19:59.319 --> 01:20:01.319
<v Speaker 1>I like to have you guys, you know, come down

1408
01:20:01.399 --> 01:20:05.000
<v Speaker 1>here because you know, the more knowing eyes we have.

1409
01:20:05.640 --> 01:20:07.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, you guys are experienced with this stuff as

1410
01:20:08.039 --> 01:20:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I am and Ron is, And I mean, I don't

1411
01:20:10.439 --> 01:20:13.079
<v Speaker 1>want I've had so many people, like I said earlier,

1412
01:20:13.399 --> 01:20:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that want to go with me on these things, but

1413
01:20:15.000 --> 01:20:17.560
<v Speaker 1>I'm not doing to do what Bill got stuck doing

1414
01:20:17.680 --> 01:20:17.920
<v Speaker 1>taking it.

1415
01:20:21.600 --> 01:20:24.800
<v Speaker 3>But no, I'm glad I was able to to show

1416
01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:29.720
<v Speaker 3>somewhat of the right way because you adapt to your

1417
01:20:29.800 --> 01:20:32.039
<v Speaker 3>skills right.

1418
01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:35.199
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know. But here's the thing. We're both We're

1419
01:20:35.239 --> 01:20:38.840
<v Speaker 1>all knowledgeable about wood stuff, woodcraft and things of that nature.

1420
01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:40.760
<v Speaker 1>I grew up where I grew up as all woods

1421
01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:43.079
<v Speaker 1>are army and stuff like that, and there's been multiple

1422
01:20:43.119 --> 01:20:45.600
<v Speaker 1>sightings of all kinds of stuff down that area. But

1423
01:20:46.239 --> 01:20:49.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, I don't mind taking a group

1424
01:20:49.600 --> 01:20:52.600
<v Speaker 1>of inexperienced people, but I don't know how much I'm

1425
01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:56.079
<v Speaker 1>going to actually get done as far as actual investigating

1426
01:20:56.159 --> 01:20:59.479
<v Speaker 1>rather than teaching you understand and right now, I'm at

1427
01:20:59.479 --> 01:21:01.399
<v Speaker 1>the point in my life. I'm going to be seventy

1428
01:21:01.399 --> 01:21:04.359
<v Speaker 1>three in August. Okay, I'm not a young guy anymore, Okay,

1429
01:21:04.439 --> 01:21:08.399
<v Speaker 1>And I want to get out there and do hardcore investigating,

1430
01:21:08.840 --> 01:21:10.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, And I'll leave the teaching up to you guys,

1431
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:13.520
<v Speaker 1>to other people. I mean, I'll teach people too if

1432
01:21:13.520 --> 01:21:15.560
<v Speaker 1>they want. But I'm not just going to take a

1433
01:21:15.560 --> 01:21:17.600
<v Speaker 1>bunch of rookies out there and put them at risk

1434
01:21:17.640 --> 01:21:20.159
<v Speaker 1>because don't know what's going on. And I'm definitely not

1435
01:21:20.199 --> 01:21:21.960
<v Speaker 1>going to take anybody out there. It's out there, going

1436
01:21:22.000 --> 01:21:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to shoot it everything that moves, I'm not going to

1437
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:24.880
<v Speaker 1>do that for sure.

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01:21:25.640 --> 01:21:31.479
<v Speaker 3>Well that here's the thing too. At Salt Pork, I

1439
01:21:31.600 --> 01:21:34.880
<v Speaker 3>did that one camp out there I put on and

1440
01:21:35.239 --> 01:21:38.239
<v Speaker 3>this young guy I'm not naching his name because I

1441
01:21:38.600 --> 01:21:44.680
<v Speaker 3>still want to go throat punch them.

1442
01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:45.880
<v Speaker 4>Lord.

1443
01:21:46.840 --> 01:21:50.960
<v Speaker 3>He always talks about how he's this smart, this smart,

1444
01:21:51.079 --> 01:21:57.960
<v Speaker 3>this smart, and he's getting his master's degree in crypt zoology.

1445
01:21:58.359 --> 01:22:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, we talked about this, you and I remember.

1446
01:22:00.560 --> 01:22:04.439
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't know what college forts out there that

1447
01:22:04.600 --> 01:22:08.000
<v Speaker 3>teaches that. They have courses, but you don't get a

1448
01:22:08.039 --> 01:22:09.800
<v Speaker 3>master's degree.

1449
01:22:11.039 --> 01:22:18.359
<v Speaker 4>No, Yeah, there's undegree classes on cryptosology. However, it's different

1450
01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:21.479
<v Speaker 4>if he went under. If it was zoology, there is

1451
01:22:21.680 --> 01:22:22.319
<v Speaker 4>degrees on.

1452
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:30.640
<v Speaker 3>Crypto But anyhow, Uh, this young lady, she came to

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01:22:30.720 --> 01:22:35.319
<v Speaker 3>the camp out of research and that and a bunch

1454
01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:41.079
<v Speaker 3>of us went up over the win hill, uh Morgan's

1455
01:22:41.119 --> 01:22:49.279
<v Speaker 3>Knob area there at so Fork. Well, Josh had her

1456
01:22:49.399 --> 01:22:54.520
<v Speaker 3>following down over the hill and he's talked like this here,

1457
01:22:54.720 --> 01:22:57.199
<v Speaker 3>you know, the top of his voice, and we're all

1458
01:22:57.199 --> 01:23:00.720
<v Speaker 3>trying to be quiet and research and playing. Well, you

1459
01:23:00.760 --> 01:23:03.720
<v Speaker 3>do this, you do that. And I got mad and

1460
01:23:04.000 --> 01:23:06.119
<v Speaker 3>I came back up over the hill. I went on

1461
01:23:06.279 --> 01:23:07.359
<v Speaker 3>over to the other side.

1462
01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:10.039
<v Speaker 1>I'm here.

1463
01:23:10.560 --> 01:23:15.840
<v Speaker 3>When we came back over from the other side, he's

1464
01:23:15.960 --> 01:23:18.840
<v Speaker 3>leaning against the truck and I looked at he says,

1465
01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:24.039
<v Speaker 3>all right, mister expert. Yeah, I said, you're talking so

1466
01:23:24.159 --> 01:23:29.920
<v Speaker 3>loud for he says, no the hell you want, And

1467
01:23:30.720 --> 01:23:35.880
<v Speaker 3>Mike Cartman goes, yeah you were. I went, what the uh? Well,

1468
01:23:35.960 --> 01:23:39.039
<v Speaker 3>she wanted to know some things. And I looked at

1469
01:23:39.159 --> 01:23:42.960
<v Speaker 3>and I says, that's when you talked softer or she

1470
01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:45.319
<v Speaker 3>was away for me. Then you bring her over to

1471
01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:47.479
<v Speaker 3>you and talk.

1472
01:23:47.479 --> 01:23:49.239
<v Speaker 4>Or walk up or walk up to her.

1473
01:23:49.359 --> 01:23:51.199
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know.

1474
01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:57.439
<v Speaker 3>What kind of asshole. Are you a man? I will

1475
01:23:57.520 --> 01:23:58.119
<v Speaker 3>lay you out.

1476
01:23:58.680 --> 01:24:01.880
<v Speaker 1>And again you remember when we went down by Mingo.

1477
01:24:02.560 --> 01:24:04.319
<v Speaker 1>Did I make one sound down there?

1478
01:24:05.319 --> 01:24:05.399
<v Speaker 5>No?

1479
01:24:05.600 --> 01:24:06.640
<v Speaker 4>You were dead quiet.

1480
01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:12.399
<v Speaker 3>No, you don't make But anyhow, gentlemen, I do have

1481
01:24:12.439 --> 01:24:14.880
<v Speaker 3>to leave. I got a very very early run to

1482
01:24:14.880 --> 01:24:21.159
<v Speaker 3>do in the morning, and then I got a doctor's

1483
01:24:21.199 --> 01:24:23.520
<v Speaker 3>appointment after that early morning run.

1484
01:24:23.720 --> 01:24:26.039
<v Speaker 1>So you got a plastic surgeony going to or what?

1485
01:24:27.199 --> 01:24:30.399
<v Speaker 3>No, the doctor's a proctologist. I'm trying to get rid

1486
01:24:30.439 --> 01:24:32.000
<v Speaker 3>of any ass named John.

1487
01:24:35.720 --> 01:24:37.920
<v Speaker 1>But make sure you look over your shoulder.

1488
01:24:38.000 --> 01:24:38.199
<v Speaker 4>Bill.

1489
01:24:40.319 --> 01:24:47.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but it's been fun. Well, Daniel, thank you for

1490
01:24:47.840 --> 01:24:49.359
<v Speaker 3>having me on with you.

1491
01:24:49.560 --> 01:24:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh, absolutely well. One thing I went through out there, Bill,

1492
01:24:53.119 --> 01:24:56.119
<v Speaker 4>I mean, which I'll message you about this uh after

1493
01:24:56.439 --> 01:25:00.079
<v Speaker 4>or later within the next day or so. But one

1494
01:25:00.079 --> 01:25:01.159
<v Speaker 4>of the things I wanted to bring up to you

1495
01:25:01.159 --> 01:25:03.720
<v Speaker 4>when I was bringing up and talking about our most

1496
01:25:03.720 --> 01:25:11.119
<v Speaker 4>recent bigfoot camp investigation here in Virginia, Like I said, John,

1497
01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.000
<v Speaker 4>I hope John can make it, and I want to

1498
01:25:14.039 --> 01:25:14.640
<v Speaker 4>invite you.

1499
01:25:14.560 --> 01:25:18.239
<v Speaker 1>To it if I do.

1500
01:25:18.520 --> 01:25:22.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm with you and Bill Bill to do it.

1501
01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:26.119
<v Speaker 4>It's May eighteenth through the twenty fourth. And if you

1502
01:25:26.159 --> 01:25:29.560
<v Speaker 4>guys can't say the whole time. That's totally understandable because

1503
01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:31.399
<v Speaker 4>a lot of times when I when I host my

1504
01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:34.479
<v Speaker 4>group camp outs and investigations, I set them for a

1505
01:25:34.520 --> 01:25:37.880
<v Speaker 4>whole week. Now, I understand not everybody could stay the

1506
01:25:37.880 --> 01:25:40.479
<v Speaker 4>whole week, depending on their work schedules or whatever else

1507
01:25:40.479 --> 01:25:43.520
<v Speaker 4>that are going on, but I would love to have

1508
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:46.119
<v Speaker 4>you a part of that, you know, So if you

1509
01:25:46.159 --> 01:25:49.359
<v Speaker 4>can make it, yeah, coordinate with Bill.

1510
01:25:49.600 --> 01:25:50.159
<v Speaker 3>Thank John.

1511
01:25:50.920 --> 01:25:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if you could do that, I mean, maybe you

1512
01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:54.359
<v Speaker 4>guys work something out to come down together.

1513
01:25:54.600 --> 01:26:01.960
<v Speaker 1>So for sure, I got I got three thousand dollars

1514
01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:05.319
<v Speaker 1>worth of electronic gear and camp camp camping gear. I

1515
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:07.560
<v Speaker 1>haven't had really a good chance to use except for

1516
01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 1>small things and stuff. But I like to put him

1517
01:26:10.239 --> 01:26:12.119
<v Speaker 1>to good use and stuff. And if I can make it,

1518
01:26:12.560 --> 01:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Bill's so inclined. If he's able to make it then

1519
01:26:15.239 --> 01:26:17.520
<v Speaker 1>and I can, then we can travel down together. I

1520
01:26:17.560 --> 01:26:19.960
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with it. But you've better bring

1521
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:22.039
<v Speaker 1>a lot of duct tape, Bill, honest to god.

1522
01:26:23.800 --> 01:26:27.319
<v Speaker 4>Ill from where from where a campout is I mean,

1523
01:26:27.359 --> 01:26:29.840
<v Speaker 4>depending on like, like I know, for you, John, it

1524
01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:32.520
<v Speaker 4>should probably only be about a four hour drive. But

1525
01:26:32.560 --> 01:26:34.720
<v Speaker 4>you know, I think Bill's probably a little further from you.

1526
01:26:37.439 --> 01:26:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Yeah for you. Yeah, six hours.

1527
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to bring the gorilla tape. So we take

1528
01:26:43.960 --> 01:26:50.760
<v Speaker 3>him to trade. And when I'm in the woods, I'm quiet.

1529
01:26:50.840 --> 01:26:53.600
<v Speaker 3>I do all my talking before I go into woods.

1530
01:26:53.640 --> 01:26:58.199
<v Speaker 4>Trust me, Bill, if we have to, we'll set John

1531
01:26:58.279 --> 01:26:59.439
<v Speaker 4>up to be our big front me.

1532
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:06.840
<v Speaker 1>That if it's a female, they would count me in.

1533
01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:10.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. There's a there's a lot of homosexuals

1534
01:27:10.720 --> 01:27:12.680
<v Speaker 4>here in Virginia, so you might get a game bit quick.

1535
01:27:22.319 --> 01:27:26.760
<v Speaker 3>All right, all right, Bill, all right, guys.

1536
01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:29.079
<v Speaker 4>Hey, hey, thank you for coming on. Bill. It's been

1537
01:27:29.079 --> 01:27:31.840
<v Speaker 4>great having you man. But we will be in touch

1538
01:27:31.960 --> 01:27:34.000
<v Speaker 4>very soon.

1539
01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:34.800
<v Speaker 3>Wife.

1540
01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:36.720
<v Speaker 1>We asked about her to tell your wife, we asked

1541
01:27:36.720 --> 01:27:40.159
<v Speaker 1>about her will yeah goes.

1542
01:27:40.199 --> 01:27:43.319
<v Speaker 3>Well you guys say warm, take care, goodbye.

1543
01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:45.119
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely, thank you Bill.

1544
01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:52.359
<v Speaker 4>That absolutely that was great though. It was great having

1545
01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Bill on here.

1546
01:27:53.239 --> 01:27:57.079
<v Speaker 1>That's great, good guy. I mean we I wanted to

1547
01:27:57.119 --> 01:27:59.800
<v Speaker 1>say more about stuff, you know, but about my advance

1548
01:27:59.880 --> 01:28:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I coming up I have I'm talking about that. Yeah,

1549
01:28:04.680 --> 01:28:07.279
<v Speaker 1>I gotta I got a podcast I'm doing for a

1550
01:28:07.479 --> 01:28:12.840
<v Speaker 1>lady named Nicola and Barnett. He asked me to do

1551
01:28:12.880 --> 01:28:15.720
<v Speaker 1>a podcast coming up sometime soon. I had to turn

1552
01:28:15.760 --> 01:28:18.600
<v Speaker 1>him down. Recently because I had something going on with

1553
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.439
<v Speaker 1>the family, you know, about my great granddaughter. But and

1554
01:28:21.479 --> 01:28:25.840
<v Speaker 1>then I have h May twenty fifth, I'm supposed to

1555
01:28:25.840 --> 01:28:28.960
<v Speaker 1>be scheduled to do it speaking engagement out at Brookville

1556
01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>with Brian seaching him. So, I mean a lot, you know,

1557
01:28:33.760 --> 01:28:36.840
<v Speaker 1>I got a lot going on right now. But I'm

1558
01:28:36.880 --> 01:28:38.800
<v Speaker 1>gonna do what I can, maybe to try to get

1559
01:28:38.800 --> 01:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>down to this camp out with you and stuff. Oh yeah, Bill,

1560
01:28:43.640 --> 01:28:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Bill's inclined to do so, then you know I'll do it.

1561
01:28:46.359 --> 01:28:49.119
<v Speaker 1>I mean, uh, like I says, it depends on what's

1562
01:28:49.119 --> 01:28:51.840
<v Speaker 1>going on with my great drink granddaughter. Okay, I mean uh,

1563
01:28:52.039 --> 01:28:56.199
<v Speaker 1>I asked all. My great granddaughter's name is Brayln Ray.

1564
01:28:56.800 --> 01:29:00.239
<v Speaker 1>She's nine years old. She's got brain cancer. That's only

1565
01:29:00.279 --> 01:29:02.920
<v Speaker 1>three kids in the world have. It's called astro blastoma.

1566
01:29:03.600 --> 01:29:06.680
<v Speaker 1>And right she's been going to radiation. She's going tomorrow.

1567
01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:09.800
<v Speaker 1>H she's been going for the last three weeks and stuff.

1568
01:29:09.800 --> 01:29:13.800
<v Speaker 1>And if she lives, God willing, you know, she's gonna

1569
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:15.239
<v Speaker 1>have to deal with us the rest of her life.

1570
01:29:15.279 --> 01:29:18.079
<v Speaker 1>So it's been putting our family through a lot of stuff,

1571
01:29:18.119 --> 01:29:19.880
<v Speaker 1>you know. And but so I asked our viewers and

1572
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:22.479
<v Speaker 1>listeners to please, you know, say their prayers for her

1573
01:29:22.479 --> 01:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>and her family, my granddaughter, her mother, you know, Uh

1574
01:29:25.960 --> 01:29:30.479
<v Speaker 1>naught because her my granddaughter. It's my oldest granddaughter. But uh,

1575
01:29:31.560 --> 01:29:33.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean it's really hard for us and stuff, you know,

1576
01:29:33.840 --> 01:29:36.000
<v Speaker 1>it really is and stuff. And that's why I didn't

1577
01:29:36.000 --> 01:29:37.439
<v Speaker 1>get on earlier. I had to go down and take

1578
01:29:37.520 --> 01:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>my my daughter down and I get a car for her.

1579
01:29:40.840 --> 01:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Hers broke down the other and I had to rescue her,

1580
01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:46.079
<v Speaker 1>so she had to use my mother along for tomorrow.

1581
01:29:46.079 --> 01:29:47.720
<v Speaker 1>But otherwise i'd have taken her, but I have and

1582
01:29:47.880 --> 01:29:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I have something I have to do with this car too.

1583
01:29:49.760 --> 01:29:53.680
<v Speaker 1>But but anyhow, like I said, uh, you know, I

1584
01:29:53.680 --> 01:29:57.079
<v Speaker 1>don't mean to come across as really harsh about uh,

1585
01:29:57.119 --> 01:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>some of these other groups and stuff. But you know,

1586
01:29:59.399 --> 01:30:01.399
<v Speaker 1>I've been doing this for a long long time, you know,

1587
01:30:01.520 --> 01:30:06.159
<v Speaker 1>and I've tried to maintain the credibility of the paranormal

1588
01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:08.319
<v Speaker 1>genre in general, not just big Foot. And I don't

1589
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:10.880
<v Speaker 1>want to be known, as I told you, Dan, I

1590
01:30:10.880 --> 01:30:14.399
<v Speaker 1>don't want to be known simply as a Bigfoot investigator.

1591
01:30:14.399 --> 01:30:21.119
<v Speaker 1>Because I'm a paranormal investigator. I investigate all kinds of cases, ghosts, UFOs, aliens,

1592
01:30:21.279 --> 01:30:25.039
<v Speaker 1>all manner of cryptids, moth man, you name it. But

1593
01:30:25.520 --> 01:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>this has intrigued me very much, having seen them at

1594
01:30:28.840 --> 01:30:33.760
<v Speaker 1>least four, maybe up to six times, you know, it's

1595
01:30:33.800 --> 01:30:36.640
<v Speaker 1>really piqued my interest in what these creatures are. I

1596
01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:38.439
<v Speaker 1>do agree with you and Bill. I think they're flesh

1597
01:30:38.479 --> 01:30:41.319
<v Speaker 1>and bruck creatures. If they were anything other than that,

1598
01:30:41.319 --> 01:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>they wouldn't leave tracks behind. But I'm mystified it and

1599
01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:50.199
<v Speaker 1>I'm but there's some explanation of why their tracks could

1600
01:30:50.239 --> 01:30:53.560
<v Speaker 1>disappear in heavy brush. Because their feet are wide and

1601
01:30:53.560 --> 01:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>if there's like brush on the ground they step on it,

1602
01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:58.279
<v Speaker 1>You're not really going to see a clear track, you know.

1603
01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:01.199
<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're walking in a regular dirt or anything.

1604
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:04.199
<v Speaker 1>But those tracks I told you about, the two were

1605
01:31:04.239 --> 01:31:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of Crescent Heights. They disappeared at the edge of the hillside.

1606
01:31:06.880 --> 01:31:09.479
<v Speaker 1>When I looked again, I saw where they actually had

1607
01:31:09.479 --> 01:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>stepped backwards. That's into the tracks, into the brushy woods

1608
01:31:12.840 --> 01:31:17.000
<v Speaker 1>where the tracks disappeared. So I just don't know what

1609
01:31:17.000 --> 01:31:19.199
<v Speaker 1>to think. I don't know what they are. I can

1610
01:31:19.239 --> 01:31:20.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you what they're not. I don't believe they're in

1611
01:31:20.960 --> 01:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>a regular animal they just otherwise we've already captured one, Well,

1612
01:31:25.560 --> 01:31:27.800
<v Speaker 1>they're just an animal. I think we'd already captured one,

1613
01:31:27.800 --> 01:31:30.479
<v Speaker 1>but they're more than that. I just don't know what

1614
01:31:30.520 --> 01:31:32.680
<v Speaker 1>to make of it. And I hope before I die

1615
01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:36.319
<v Speaker 1>there's answers come out, but more than likely not because

1616
01:31:36.720 --> 01:31:38.880
<v Speaker 1>I am getting older. It's gonna be guys like you

1617
01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:40.760
<v Speaker 1>and Bill and others that are in this field. The

1618
01:31:40.800 --> 01:31:44.800
<v Speaker 1>younger generation. It's gonna have to come up. But unfortunately, Dan,

1619
01:31:45.399 --> 01:31:48.640
<v Speaker 1>there's so many other entertainment groups out there right now

1620
01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:52.000
<v Speaker 1>that it's muddy in the waters for the hard course

1621
01:31:52.680 --> 01:31:55.720
<v Speaker 1>group of people who are doing serious investigative work and research.

1622
01:31:56.560 --> 01:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, I do take great offense though that people

1623
01:32:00.039 --> 01:32:01.960
<v Speaker 1>where they're in. Some people are in it just to

1624
01:32:02.000 --> 01:32:04.560
<v Speaker 1>make money in line their pockets. I do take grip,

1625
01:32:04.800 --> 01:32:07.359
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not talking about selling some T shirts and stuff.

1626
01:32:07.359 --> 01:32:10.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about appearance fees five thousand and eight thousand

1627
01:32:10.159 --> 01:32:13.359
<v Speaker 1>dollars to go speak. Okay, they've seen a big one.

1628
01:32:13.720 --> 01:32:17.479
<v Speaker 1>You know. I got a problem with that, Okay, I understand.

1629
01:32:17.560 --> 01:32:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I mean I wouldn't have a problem if the guys

1630
01:32:19.279 --> 01:32:21.000
<v Speaker 1>come from the state of California, and if I have

1631
01:32:21.079 --> 01:32:24.560
<v Speaker 1>invited him to an event in Pennsylvania, I played for papers,

1632
01:32:24.840 --> 01:32:27.199
<v Speaker 1>playing fair and maybe for a stay in a hotel.

1633
01:32:27.680 --> 01:32:29.119
<v Speaker 1>But that's about the extent of it. I'm not going

1634
01:32:29.159 --> 01:32:30.800
<v Speaker 1>to get him five or eight thousand dollars just to

1635
01:32:30.840 --> 01:32:33.600
<v Speaker 1>show up. I mean, come on, seriously, having never seen

1636
01:32:33.640 --> 01:32:36.720
<v Speaker 1>a big one, because anybody can speculate on what a

1637
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:39.439
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot is. I don't know what they are. You don't

1638
01:32:39.439 --> 01:32:41.239
<v Speaker 1>know what they are. Bill doesn't know what they are.

1639
01:32:41.680 --> 01:32:43.680
<v Speaker 1>We've seen them, but we don't know what they are.

1640
01:32:44.000 --> 01:32:47.000
<v Speaker 1>But these other guys are just it's burning my ass,

1641
01:32:47.279 --> 01:32:50.399
<v Speaker 1>there really is, you know. And uh, some of these

1642
01:32:50.439 --> 01:32:52.840
<v Speaker 1>groups too. Like one thing I say about your group

1643
01:32:52.880 --> 01:32:56.239
<v Speaker 1>and Bill's group, you know, uh, you guys don't tolerate

1644
01:32:56.840 --> 01:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>negative trolls, people cursing, putting other people down. You know,

1645
01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot more people out there have had sightings,

1646
01:33:02.920 --> 01:33:04.920
<v Speaker 1>but when they get they see these groups where the

1647
01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>administrator and the founders of these groups allow people to

1648
01:33:09.000 --> 01:33:11.159
<v Speaker 1>put them down and call them nut cases and everything else,

1649
01:33:11.439 --> 01:33:13.800
<v Speaker 1>they keep quiet. They don't want to they don't want

1650
01:33:13.800 --> 01:33:18.000
<v Speaker 1>to put it out there like that. And it's because

1651
01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.399
<v Speaker 1>we could get more information. I guess that's where I

1652
01:33:20.399 --> 01:33:22.920
<v Speaker 1>was trying to go earlier. We could get more information.

1653
01:33:23.000 --> 01:33:24.920
<v Speaker 1>If we had more people step forward and say, look,

1654
01:33:25.000 --> 01:33:27.079
<v Speaker 1>this is what I saw. But when you got people

1655
01:33:27.199 --> 01:33:29.720
<v Speaker 1>coming also, you got people coming on and saying stuff

1656
01:33:29.720 --> 01:33:33.359
<v Speaker 1>like the big boots all told me what their names were, Billy, Fred,

1657
01:33:34.199 --> 01:33:38.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, Judy and and and and whatever. No, I

1658
01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:40.640
<v Speaker 1>don't buy that for a second. And if you have

1659
01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:43.119
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of big foot on your property, okay, take

1660
01:33:43.159 --> 01:33:48.439
<v Speaker 1>some pictures, take some pictures, Okay, do something. But pictures

1661
01:33:48.479 --> 01:33:52.000
<v Speaker 1>themselves are not gonna make They're not gonna convince mainstream science.

1662
01:33:52.520 --> 01:33:57.680
<v Speaker 1>You know what's gonna content convince mainstream science getting one alive.

1663
01:33:59.239 --> 01:34:02.239
<v Speaker 1>And until we until we have some kind of philanthropist

1664
01:34:02.560 --> 01:34:05.039
<v Speaker 1>or university come forward and say we're going to fund

1665
01:34:05.079 --> 01:34:09.600
<v Speaker 1>an expedition with reputable people. There are experts in their

1666
01:34:09.640 --> 01:34:13.399
<v Speaker 1>field of endeavor, anthropology, wildlife's zoology, is all this kind

1667
01:34:13.399 --> 01:34:16.800
<v Speaker 1>of stuff, expert trackers and stuff like that. We're not

1668
01:34:16.840 --> 01:34:19.680
<v Speaker 1>going to get the answers we see, you know, and

1669
01:34:19.840 --> 01:34:22.159
<v Speaker 1>that's a shame of it, you know. So there's the

1670
01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:26.159
<v Speaker 1>very handful, there's only a handful of people they're actually

1671
01:34:26.199 --> 01:34:28.840
<v Speaker 1>trying to do the right thing. I mean by handful,

1672
01:34:28.920 --> 01:34:32.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe one hundred to one hundred and fifty people in

1673
01:34:32.039 --> 01:34:34.399
<v Speaker 1>this country try to do the right thing. The rest

1674
01:34:34.439 --> 01:34:36.840
<v Speaker 1>are just trying to line their pockets gain personal fame

1675
01:34:36.880 --> 01:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>and notoriety. I don't like that, okay, And you know

1676
01:34:40.359 --> 01:34:42.399
<v Speaker 1>you're not in it to make money. Bill's not it

1677
01:34:42.439 --> 01:34:44.680
<v Speaker 1>to make money. I certainly am not in to make money,

1678
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:47.359
<v Speaker 1>you know. But if I could capture a big foot alive,

1679
01:34:47.520 --> 01:34:50.439
<v Speaker 1>I certainly would. I certainly would. But I just don't

1680
01:34:50.439 --> 01:34:52.199
<v Speaker 1>have the means to do so. So the only thing

1681
01:34:52.199 --> 01:34:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I can do is find some tracks, take some pictures.

1682
01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:58.039
<v Speaker 1>If I can find some DNA, you know, hair samples

1683
01:34:58.119 --> 01:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>or scat or whatever, you know, Hopefully, if I get

1684
01:35:01.000 --> 01:35:03.479
<v Speaker 1>enough of that and enough credible people coming forward, you know,

1685
01:35:04.199 --> 01:35:08.760
<v Speaker 1>like policemen or military people or something like that, maybe

1686
01:35:08.840 --> 01:35:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it maybe at some point mainstream science will accept that

1687
01:35:11.960 --> 01:35:15.199
<v Speaker 1>and maybe just maybe say, look, oh, I also want

1688
01:35:15.199 --> 01:35:19.239
<v Speaker 1>to say this, we know it exists. You know it exists,

1689
01:35:19.279 --> 01:35:21.520
<v Speaker 1>and so do I, and so is building everybody else's

1690
01:35:21.560 --> 01:35:24.680
<v Speaker 1>in this. I want to get protections for this creature.

1691
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Put it on the endangerous species list, so you don't

1692
01:35:28.960 --> 01:35:31.039
<v Speaker 1>ever have every Tom, Dick and Harriet there trying to

1693
01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:33.920
<v Speaker 1>shoot something that moves in the woods. The worst thing

1694
01:35:33.920 --> 01:35:36.680
<v Speaker 1>could ever happen, you know yourself. If you wound a

1695
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:40.119
<v Speaker 1>bear and you don't kill that bear and they know

1696
01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:42.520
<v Speaker 1>what a human did, what's going to happen? That bear

1697
01:35:42.560 --> 01:35:44.880
<v Speaker 1>can't hunt for itself now that it's going to start hunting humans.

1698
01:35:47.199 --> 01:35:50.319
<v Speaker 1>So if you wound a bigfoot and it sees humans

1699
01:35:50.319 --> 01:35:53.520
<v Speaker 1>as humans, period, any other person walks in the woods

1700
01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:55.760
<v Speaker 1>that didn't shoot it is going to be fair game

1701
01:35:55.840 --> 01:36:00.000
<v Speaker 1>for that wounded bigfoot. Okay, kill one of its children.

1702
01:36:00.800 --> 01:36:04.279
<v Speaker 1>You're really in deep trouble then, Okay, So I'm just

1703
01:36:04.399 --> 01:36:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm just throwing that out there for for general speak.

1704
01:36:06.920 --> 01:36:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But any I know, you've probably got some stuff to do.

1705
01:36:09.720 --> 01:36:11.439
<v Speaker 1>My wife will be coming out here in about ten

1706
01:36:11.479 --> 01:36:15.039
<v Speaker 1>minutes the most, but because she gets off all ten.

1707
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:19.439
<v Speaker 4>But there is one question. There's a few questions I had,

1708
01:36:19.479 --> 01:36:21.760
<v Speaker 4>but I figured there's one question. I know on the

1709
01:36:21.840 --> 01:36:23.840
<v Speaker 4>last time we had you on here in just a

1710
01:36:23.840 --> 01:36:28.359
<v Speaker 4>couple of days ago, on Facebook, people were asking questions

1711
01:36:28.680 --> 01:36:32.399
<v Speaker 4>and the one first question is I believe it was

1712
01:36:32.520 --> 01:36:35.239
<v Speaker 4>the one about you big foot hybrid eight.

1713
01:36:36.920 --> 01:36:39.520
<v Speaker 5>I think you yeah, I think.

1714
01:36:39.399 --> 01:36:40.560
<v Speaker 4>You responded to that.

1715
01:36:40.760 --> 01:36:42.600
<v Speaker 5>You want to kind of touch base on that real quick.

1716
01:36:43.520 --> 01:36:46.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there are certain creatures on this planet. Like, for instance,

1717
01:36:46.600 --> 01:36:49.479
<v Speaker 1>there's a frog in Africa that lives in the water,

1718
01:36:49.520 --> 01:36:51.640
<v Speaker 1>of course, and when the water drives up the waterhole,

1719
01:36:51.640 --> 01:36:53.720
<v Speaker 1>it goes into what they call like an estivation that's

1720
01:36:54.000 --> 01:36:57.439
<v Speaker 1>not a hibernation estivation, and it can live there until

1721
01:36:57.439 --> 01:37:01.479
<v Speaker 1>the rains come again. And it's the tabolism is slow.

1722
01:37:01.520 --> 01:37:04.359
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like it's dead, but it's not. Bears on

1723
01:37:04.399 --> 01:37:07.880
<v Speaker 1>the other hand. Bears, on the other hand, hibernate through

1724
01:37:07.880 --> 01:37:10.119
<v Speaker 1>the long winter. And what they do they you know yourself,

1725
01:37:10.399 --> 01:37:13.880
<v Speaker 1>your your wildlife expert. They go and they forage and

1726
01:37:13.920 --> 01:37:16.560
<v Speaker 1>get fat and stuff. They can even give babies while

1727
01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>they're in hibernation. Okay, that don't wake up and have babies. Okay,

1728
01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:25.439
<v Speaker 1>baby bears. But that's different. Estivation is different. And people

1729
01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:27.279
<v Speaker 1>I talk to you about this the other day, like

1730
01:37:27.560 --> 01:37:30.920
<v Speaker 1>people can they were talking about there's people are saying

1731
01:37:30.920 --> 01:37:34.479
<v Speaker 1>there's no alligators in the Mount mon Mon River, Ohio River.

1732
01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Well guess what they found a bunch of alligators living

1733
01:37:37.960 --> 01:37:40.840
<v Speaker 1>in a Mond river in the Ohio River in Pittsburgh.

1734
01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:45.760
<v Speaker 1>And let me just point this out. Alligators and crocodilions

1735
01:37:45.880 --> 01:37:48.039
<v Speaker 1>in general have been around for two hundred and fifty

1736
01:37:48.119 --> 01:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>million years, through multiple ice ages, through an asteroid strike

1737
01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:57.359
<v Speaker 1>on the planet. They've survived how they've done so they

1738
01:37:57.359 --> 01:38:00.720
<v Speaker 1>could go into type of festivation they build. They build

1739
01:38:00.760 --> 01:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>nest up under river banks, which brings me to this point. Supposedly,

1740
01:38:05.680 --> 01:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen forty seven, up near where I live, a

1741
01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:11.119
<v Speaker 1>bigfoot like they didn't call it bigfoot, they said some

1742
01:38:11.199 --> 01:38:13.159
<v Speaker 1>kind of hairy creature came out of the water in

1743
01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:16.520
<v Speaker 1>the Moon River. My guess is these creatures can go

1744
01:38:16.600 --> 01:38:20.079
<v Speaker 1>up under embankments like these clay embankments and build a

1745
01:38:20.159 --> 01:38:22.159
<v Speaker 1>nest up under the water and live there like that.

1746
01:38:22.800 --> 01:38:26.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what they're capable, but that would make

1747
01:38:26.439 --> 01:38:28.479
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense too, because who's going to go

1748
01:38:28.560 --> 01:38:31.399
<v Speaker 1>looking under the river for inspecting the winter time for

1749
01:38:31.439 --> 01:38:32.039
<v Speaker 1>a bigfoot?

1750
01:38:32.920 --> 01:38:33.079
<v Speaker 4>Right?

1751
01:38:34.199 --> 01:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>But I did respond to that post, and I tried

1752
01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:39.239
<v Speaker 1>to be a little specific about what the differences were

1753
01:38:39.279 --> 01:38:42.439
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. But yeah, there are creatures can do that, okay.

1754
01:38:42.880 --> 01:38:45.119
<v Speaker 1>And I'm thinking when the food supply is short and

1755
01:38:45.159 --> 01:38:47.960
<v Speaker 1>you brought this up yourself, that they can turn from

1756
01:38:48.119 --> 01:38:51.520
<v Speaker 1>they can't find like a vegetable matter like berries and

1757
01:38:51.560 --> 01:38:55.000
<v Speaker 1>stuff like a bear mite, Okay, they'll go for a

1758
01:38:55.039 --> 01:38:58.439
<v Speaker 1>deer or some other small animal and build it. I mean,

1759
01:38:58.520 --> 01:39:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in my area, I'm really kind and responsible for three

1760
01:39:01.760 --> 01:39:04.640
<v Speaker 1>counties up there, Washington, Green, and Fayette. I've never heard

1761
01:39:04.680 --> 01:39:08.479
<v Speaker 1>of a report in this area of any farm antles

1762
01:39:08.560 --> 01:39:14.720
<v Speaker 1>being taken deer, yes, dogs, cats have disappeared, yes, okay,

1763
01:39:14.760 --> 01:39:19.159
<v Speaker 1>but again, whatever happens up north in Pennsylvania, I can't say,

1764
01:39:19.199 --> 01:39:22.359
<v Speaker 1>because I haven't been up there like where Bill lives, uh,

1765
01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:26.520
<v Speaker 1>except rarely. But I would have to say that only

1766
01:39:26.560 --> 01:39:30.439
<v Speaker 1>when if the food supply gets sourced short, which right

1767
01:39:30.479 --> 01:39:33.920
<v Speaker 1>now it's plentiful. I've seen more deer in the time

1768
01:39:33.960 --> 01:39:35.680
<v Speaker 1>I've been around here than I have in my whole

1769
01:39:35.720 --> 01:39:38.239
<v Speaker 1>life walking down the middle of the street for crying

1770
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:41.159
<v Speaker 1>out loud. But uh, the thing is is that when

1771
01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:44.399
<v Speaker 1>if the food supply gets short, they're gonna look for food.

1772
01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.520
<v Speaker 1>You say to yourself, they're opportunists. They're gonna take what

1773
01:39:47.560 --> 01:39:50.359
<v Speaker 1>they can get. But I also think they're smart enough

1774
01:39:50.359 --> 01:39:54.479
<v Speaker 1>to know that man man himself can hunt them effectively

1775
01:39:55.039 --> 01:39:58.760
<v Speaker 1>with dogs, and they have weapons that can hurt them. Okay,

1776
01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:01.960
<v Speaker 1>that's what I think different themselves from being mere animals

1777
01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:06.239
<v Speaker 1>into something else, something with higher intelligence. Yes, something it's

1778
01:40:06.239 --> 01:40:10.680
<v Speaker 1>self aware, something that knows man can hurt them, you know,

1779
01:40:10.720 --> 01:40:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's why they avoid man. Otherwise you see them

1780
01:40:13.039 --> 01:40:16.039
<v Speaker 1>all the time. Think about it. You see them all

1781
01:40:16.079 --> 01:40:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the time. And yeah, animals have infrasound, A lot of

1782
01:40:19.279 --> 01:40:22.000
<v Speaker 1>different animals on the planet of infrasouth. Who's to say

1783
01:40:22.039 --> 01:40:24.880
<v Speaker 1>that these creatures they have I know, I felt it

1784
01:40:24.920 --> 01:40:28.000
<v Speaker 1>myself one time. I felt the infrasound, okay, and it

1785
01:40:28.279 --> 01:40:30.359
<v Speaker 1>shook me. I told you this. I thought it was

1786
01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:33.159
<v Speaker 1>it felt made me feel like it was sad. But

1787
01:40:33.279 --> 01:40:36.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, I felt it palpably beating against my chest. Okay.

1788
01:40:36.960 --> 01:40:41.359
<v Speaker 1>But uh yeah, I just I mean, there might be

1789
01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:43.840
<v Speaker 1>cases up in New York where, you know, because there's

1790
01:40:43.880 --> 01:40:46.359
<v Speaker 1>more people in that area that it has to take

1791
01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>what it can get, you know. But to my knowledge,

1792
01:40:49.560 --> 01:40:53.039
<v Speaker 1>in the East Coast Bigfoot, the Northeast Coast Bigfoot is

1793
01:40:53.079 --> 01:40:58.239
<v Speaker 1>not generally violet or prone to attacking cattle or farm animals.

1794
01:40:58.840 --> 01:41:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Now down south, and we talked about this before that

1795
01:41:02.199 --> 01:41:06.119
<v Speaker 1>we know the Bogie Creek Monster, the Folk Monster, the

1796
01:41:06.159 --> 01:41:10.199
<v Speaker 1>skun Capes. Then you have the northwestern Sasquatch. They're more

1797
01:41:10.279 --> 01:41:14.520
<v Speaker 1>territorial because there's less people, so they've they've latched onto

1798
01:41:14.560 --> 01:41:17.439
<v Speaker 1>a particular type of territory where their food sources are,

1799
01:41:17.840 --> 01:41:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're more protective of that. So uh, you know,

1800
01:41:21.880 --> 01:41:24.279
<v Speaker 1>and you said it yourself too. It depends on where

1801
01:41:24.279 --> 01:41:27.720
<v Speaker 1>they live, the adaptive qualities of that. Look at the Yetti,

1802
01:41:28.039 --> 01:41:30.159
<v Speaker 1>we know that, YETI prays on whatever it can get

1803
01:41:30.199 --> 01:41:34.279
<v Speaker 1>over there in the Himalayas. So does the yerin Okay

1804
01:41:34.800 --> 01:41:37.439
<v Speaker 1>because of the environment they're in. They're different colors, they're

1805
01:41:37.479 --> 01:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>not as quite as tall, but there's more stocky, and

1806
01:41:40.319 --> 01:41:43.359
<v Speaker 1>they do they go after people as well. So but

1807
01:41:44.600 --> 01:41:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I just I wish I had the answers. But the

1808
01:41:47.000 --> 01:41:49.600
<v Speaker 1>more I dig, the more I find out. I don't know.

1809
01:41:50.159 --> 01:41:54.159
<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm mad enough to admit it. And until,

1810
01:41:54.319 --> 01:41:58.239
<v Speaker 1>like I said earlier to you and Bill, until serious

1811
01:41:58.239 --> 01:42:01.960
<v Speaker 1>groups start sharing information and getting those little bits and

1812
01:42:02.000 --> 01:42:05.199
<v Speaker 1>pieces and tidbits of information where we can all gain

1813
01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:07.760
<v Speaker 1>knowledge from it and maybe help us in our endeavors,

1814
01:42:08.079 --> 01:42:10.399
<v Speaker 1>we're never gonna get ahead. We're just gonna be spinning

1815
01:42:10.439 --> 01:42:13.359
<v Speaker 1>our wheels, you know. And like I said, then you

1816
01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:16.840
<v Speaker 1>have the entertainment industry mudding up the waters where they're nonsense.

1817
01:42:17.520 --> 01:42:21.039
<v Speaker 1>So you know, it's very sad and like I said,

1818
01:42:21.039 --> 01:42:23.920
<v Speaker 1>for almost fifty eight years now, I've been doing investigations

1819
01:42:23.960 --> 01:42:27.920
<v Speaker 1>and trying to maintain the category of this this genre,

1820
01:42:28.520 --> 01:42:30.720
<v Speaker 1>and it's getting harder or harder to do. People are

1821
01:42:30.760 --> 01:42:33.720
<v Speaker 1>just like, yeah, okay, you know, they're just laughing and

1822
01:42:33.880 --> 01:42:36.359
<v Speaker 1>they're the laughing at us. And I've talked to people

1823
01:42:36.399 --> 01:42:39.119
<v Speaker 1>like you have to. Some of them don't want, don't

1824
01:42:39.119 --> 01:42:41.439
<v Speaker 1>want to come forward. That one gentleman that you and

1825
01:42:41.479 --> 01:42:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I went down to with our other investigator down by Mingo,

1826
01:42:46.239 --> 01:42:48.399
<v Speaker 1>then he don't want his name put out there. Why

1827
01:42:48.479 --> 01:42:50.520
<v Speaker 1>what did he say? I don't want to have be

1828
01:42:50.600 --> 01:42:55.079
<v Speaker 1>embarrassed or people put me down. Okay, I can understand that,

1829
01:42:56.000 --> 01:42:59.239
<v Speaker 1>but yet, but he reached out to us, you specifically

1830
01:42:59.279 --> 01:43:02.479
<v Speaker 1>at first, because he saw something he couldn't explain what

1831
01:43:02.520 --> 01:43:05.359
<v Speaker 1>he saw. And there's other people are sitting back there.

1832
01:43:05.399 --> 01:43:07.319
<v Speaker 1>They want to say something, but they don't know because

1833
01:43:07.319 --> 01:43:10.840
<v Speaker 1>there's so many Bigfoot paranormal groups on Facebook and they

1834
01:43:10.920 --> 01:43:12.880
<v Speaker 1>read some of these posts of people, you know, the

1835
01:43:13.039 --> 01:43:16.000
<v Speaker 1>negative trolling and the name calling and all the you know,

1836
01:43:16.079 --> 01:43:18.800
<v Speaker 1>and they're scared to come forward. But I'll bet you,

1837
01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:21.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll bet you everything I have in my life that

1838
01:43:21.720 --> 01:43:24.359
<v Speaker 1>there's way more people have seen a bigfoot or had

1839
01:43:24.359 --> 01:43:27.479
<v Speaker 1>a paranormal experience that are afraid to come forward for

1840
01:43:27.600 --> 01:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>that very reason. Sorry, I gotta get the duct tape.

1841
01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:33.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry.

1842
01:43:33.680 --> 01:43:37.439
<v Speaker 4>No, no, no, no, You're totally fine, totally fine. No.

1843
01:43:37.560 --> 01:43:40.159
<v Speaker 4>I love what you have him say and share it.

1844
01:43:41.000 --> 01:43:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Sure, well you know what. I'm gonna let you do

1845
01:43:43.920 --> 01:43:46.000
<v Speaker 1>it for now, but because Beth will be out here

1846
01:43:46.000 --> 01:43:49.079
<v Speaker 1>in about five minutes now, But and I'll get here

1847
01:43:49.159 --> 01:43:51.359
<v Speaker 1>butt home because it's cold out here. It's twenty one

1848
01:43:51.439 --> 01:43:55.039
<v Speaker 1>degrees according to my car thermometer. So I'm going to

1849
01:43:55.119 --> 01:43:58.039
<v Speaker 1>get it out there. You see, I'm a tough old cookie.

1850
01:43:58.079 --> 01:43:59.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't care how cold it is. If I can

1851
01:44:01.199 --> 01:44:03.319
<v Speaker 1>right now, I'll do it. But I'm gonna turn my

1852
01:44:03.359 --> 01:44:05.039
<v Speaker 1>car on because she's coming out. I'm gonna put some

1853
01:44:05.079 --> 01:44:06.600
<v Speaker 1>heat in here for her or show yell at me.

1854
01:44:09.199 --> 01:44:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I got heated seats in here, Dan, just so you know,

1855
01:44:12.239 --> 01:44:13.239
<v Speaker 1>front seats are heated.

1856
01:44:13.319 --> 01:44:18.199
<v Speaker 4>So sounds good, sounds good. But one thing I do

1857
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.800
<v Speaker 4>wanted for out there before we come to a close here. Uh,

1858
01:44:22.000 --> 01:44:25.239
<v Speaker 4>for those who are listening to this and you know

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<v Speaker 4>who are following, Uh, this is not the end of it.

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<v Speaker 4>We got a lot more to discuss and talk about

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<v Speaker 4>in the near future. But yeah, I appreciate you guys

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<v Speaker 4>listening and tuning in. Uh. We highly encourage you to

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<v Speaker 4>share this podcast around ECBR Bigfoot Radio that has a

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<v Speaker 4>lot more in the future. So I want to thank

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<v Speaker 4>everyone who is listening and tuning in for this because

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<v Speaker 4>if you have questions, uh you want discussed and talk

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<v Speaker 4>about on future shows, send me a email a E. C.

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<v Speaker 4>B R O ninety eight at gmail dot com. Again,

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<v Speaker 4>that's E. C. B R O ninety eight at gmail

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<v Speaker 4>dot com. And we'll try our best to respond to

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<v Speaker 4>other questions and you'll be able to listen to other

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<v Speaker 4>discussions on various topics. Meanwhile, thank you guys again, and.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm looking forward to having other discussions with John and

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<v Speaker 7>other researchers as well who have experienced the unknown and

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<v Speaker 7>you know, we'd like to share our opinions and thoughts

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<v Speaker 7>and knowledge on the whole topic.

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<v Speaker 4>So but John, thank you again. Uh yeah, we're going

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<v Speaker 4>to come to a close right now, and you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 4>till next time. Thank you very much and I appreciate

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<v Speaker 4>you being a part of this. So so next time, John,

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<v Speaker 4>you keep it squatchy and I'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you too, buddy? Take care and go bless

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<v Speaker 4>It sounds good man, all right, Bye bye bye bye