WEBVTT 1 00:00:07.160 --> 00:00:11.279 Oh, we're live. I'm here with has the Communist I 2 00:00:11.320 --> 00:00:13.679 was pretty quick. Yeah, they just kind of started it 3 00:00:13.720 --> 00:00:15.000 on us. So we can do a cut if we 4 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:18.320 need to. But sure, you're what's your position in the 5 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:19.120 Communist Party. 6 00:00:19.280 --> 00:00:21.000 I'm the executive chairman. 7 00:00:20.920 --> 00:00:23.839 Of the American Communist Party. Correct, yep, you know that 8 00:00:23.920 --> 00:00:27.160 you're the third member of that party. Very few people 9 00:00:27.239 --> 00:00:29.440 on the left will come on my show, but the 10 00:00:29.480 --> 00:00:32.200 third member of the American Communist Party. I like you guys. 11 00:00:32.320 --> 00:00:34.960 Yeah, we kind of just like don't have the cancel 12 00:00:35.039 --> 00:00:38.479 culture thing. We don't have like the political correctness, and 13 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.719 so we can disagree with people about history and all 14 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:44.399 these other kind of things, but we still believe that 15 00:00:45.119 --> 00:00:49.600 materially speaking, Americans do need to talk to each other 16 00:00:49.880 --> 00:00:53.200 about their different perspectives as long as we have core 17 00:00:53.280 --> 00:00:56.240 principles which are like I think, I think even you 18 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:58.320 would agree on what an important principle would be like. 19 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.920 For example, it's so easy for us to sell out 20 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:01.960 to the system. 21 00:01:01.719 --> 00:01:03.079 Yes, to sell for money. 22 00:01:03.479 --> 00:01:06.879 Money they're waving the seven thousand dollars checks in everyone's faces. 23 00:01:06.920 --> 00:01:09.920 There's so much of an incentive to just be on 24 00:01:10.040 --> 00:01:12.719 board with whatever the agenda is because they are in power. 25 00:01:13.040 --> 00:01:16.840 They're in power, they have the money, and we're independent. 26 00:01:16.920 --> 00:01:18.799 We speak our conscience right. 27 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:20.480 And that's the thing important. I talk to you guys 28 00:01:20.519 --> 00:01:22.200 like you like, we're not going to agree on everything, 29 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:24.079 but I can see you're not a bad person. We 30 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:26.519 hung out last night, we were laughing. I called Eddie. 31 00:01:26.519 --> 00:01:28.079 I'm like, hey, is this guy serious? Do you have 32 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:29.640 a sense of humor? Because you look all serious with 33 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:31.560 your gonz Eddie. He's like, no, No, he's cool. Yeah. 34 00:01:31.719 --> 00:01:33.400 I think we got along great. It's like you want 35 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:35.640 Merica to be better. We might not create every detail, 36 00:01:35.719 --> 00:01:38.040 but we can look. We can see the current system 37 00:01:38.159 --> 00:01:40.159 is completely screwing us right now. 38 00:01:40.519 --> 00:01:45.359 And why should people like you and I have a conflict. Yeah, 39 00:01:45.439 --> 00:01:48.319 while they get away, like while they're doing each other right, 40 00:01:48.400 --> 00:01:49.680 exactly exactly. 41 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:51.840 I'm like, you're cool, we're laughing, having a good time 42 00:01:51.920 --> 00:01:52.359 last night. 43 00:01:52.519 --> 00:01:53.879 That's like that. I don't know if you heard of 44 00:01:53.920 --> 00:01:56.120 that whole thing of like in Italy the years of Lead, 45 00:01:56.519 --> 00:01:59.879 where basically, like the CIA and NATO deep state, we're 46 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:06.000 promoting intense factional violence among you know, the extreme left 47 00:02:06.040 --> 00:02:09.840 and the extreme right. Meanwhile, they were consolidating full power 48 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:12.719 for the neoliberals, the banksters and all these people. And 49 00:02:12.759 --> 00:02:16.080 then that's how Italy today is just ruled by banking class. 50 00:02:16.080 --> 00:02:17.879 Absolute we're going to agree on that part of the 51 00:02:17.919 --> 00:02:20.840 banking class. There's these scum ruling over us. I do 52 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:23.879 think we should add real quick that you differentiate yourself 53 00:02:23.919 --> 00:02:26.360 from a lot of these communists, like the antifa left 54 00:02:26.400 --> 00:02:29.840 wing put the trans flag on their communist flag. You 55 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:31.520 guys don't really get along at all, right, they don't 56 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:33.120 like you, don't for the most part, you probably lively 57 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:34.080 reach out. No, they don't. 58 00:02:34.080 --> 00:02:36.879 And to be clear, I've been a communist or I've 59 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.199 been investigating communism since I was twelve years old, right, 60 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.879 and then this new thing that came after twenty fifteen, 61 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:48.159 twenty sixteen, of people calling themselves Antifa, wearing masks and 62 00:02:48.159 --> 00:02:50.360 all this kind of stuff. People like me don't know 63 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.240 where these people came. That's more recent time, that's absolutely recent. 64 00:02:53.319 --> 00:02:58.120 And you know, these this specific extreme political correctness, this 65 00:02:58.360 --> 00:03:01.919 like extreme liberal whatever I mean, that was never associated. 66 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.479 I know old communists, I know people who actually come 67 00:03:05.520 --> 00:03:07.759 from that legacy, and all of us are just kind 68 00:03:07.800 --> 00:03:10.000 of sitting here, like where did that come from? 69 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.280 I think The only reason I'm called right wing is 70 00:03:12.280 --> 00:03:14.599 because I'm against the political correct correctness, so that makes 71 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:15.199 me far right. 72 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:18.039 We're kind of talking about that yesterday, right, And you 73 00:03:18.120 --> 00:03:20.840 told me something I was so interesting. It's like when 74 00:03:20.879 --> 00:03:23.479 you were around with Occupy Wall Street, you were you 75 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.199 would probably consider something more left wing. 76 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:27.400 Yeah, right, yeah, because I agreed with what they're doing, right, 77 00:03:27.439 --> 00:03:28.719 But the bankers. 78 00:03:28.599 --> 00:03:31.159 But they they brought this crazy identity politics where they 79 00:03:31.159 --> 00:03:34.560 were saying, Okay, you know, if you're white, that's a problem. Yes, 80 00:03:34.840 --> 00:03:37.159 if you're a man, that's a problem. If you're straight, 81 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.520 that's the issue. Right. And so there was all this 82 00:03:39.719 --> 00:03:43.280 energy and outrage toward the banks when we bailed them 83 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.680 out on the right Bomby so rightfully. Absolutely, and then 84 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:50.159 all of a sudden people started pouring in, shifting and 85 00:03:50.199 --> 00:03:53.319 diverting people's energy to the identity politics. 86 00:03:53.400 --> 00:03:56.520 Yeah. So that made me rotate hers the right, even 87 00:03:56.599 --> 00:04:00.520 though the core it's to see stupid things. These do matter. 88 00:04:00.520 --> 00:04:02.360 Don't get me wrong, of course they matter, but it's 89 00:04:02.360 --> 00:04:03.560 a distraction. I realized. 90 00:04:04.000 --> 00:04:05.599 No, it was fun because if we're all on the 91 00:04:05.639 --> 00:04:10.039 same page about banding together and challenging the people who 92 00:04:10.080 --> 00:04:13.520 control all of our wealth, all of our finances, and 93 00:04:13.560 --> 00:04:17.240 all of our politicians are like, are the authority right 94 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.000 because we live under them versus us? 95 00:04:19.160 --> 00:04:22.160 Absolutely right, Yeah, and just real quick for occupy wall 96 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:23.800 shape not gonna get into it. People that don't know 97 00:04:23.879 --> 00:04:26.759 if you're but they basically the banks they engineered it, 98 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:28.800 were giving out loans people couldn't pay back, and they 99 00:04:28.800 --> 00:04:30.759 would just take their homes back. But then they did 100 00:04:30.839 --> 00:04:33.360 just so many people. The homes came worth less than 101 00:04:33.399 --> 00:04:35.560 they'd owed. So they're like, oh shit, the banks are 102 00:04:35.600 --> 00:04:36.920 going to lose money. What do they do? They go 103 00:04:36.959 --> 00:04:39.000 to Congress, they get bilt out with trillions of dollars, 104 00:04:39.160 --> 00:04:42.199 they get bonuses. Why we lose our homes? Just sick. 105 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:45.879 We don't spend any money on infrastructure, We don't spend 106 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.199 any money taking care of our own people. They're so 107 00:04:48.399 --> 00:04:51.360 fringy and stingy when it comes to that. But as 108 00:04:51.399 --> 00:04:53.560 soon as it came to bailing out these banks that 109 00:04:53.680 --> 00:04:58.240 failed on the free market, you know, they're handing out trillions. 110 00:04:58.360 --> 00:04:59.639 It's communism for them. 111 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:01.120 For us, that's it. 112 00:05:01.519 --> 00:05:02.639 So they get the bell out. 113 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.519 We don't so like, you know, we communists are. We 114 00:05:06.560 --> 00:05:09.519 respond to that by saying, okay, well, since this is 115 00:05:09.519 --> 00:05:11.920 how the system is, why can't it work for us? 116 00:05:12.279 --> 00:05:14.519 Yeah? Well, I think it's important that I add before 117 00:05:14.560 --> 00:05:17.079 we get into explaining communism. I tried finding someone to 118 00:05:17.079 --> 00:05:19.439 debate you because I'm not super knowledgeable on this thing. 119 00:05:19.519 --> 00:05:21.639 So I'm gonna give a little pushback, but not a lot. 120 00:05:21.720 --> 00:05:23.920 I'm mostly gonna let you tell your story. I want 121 00:05:23.959 --> 00:05:26.720 someone debate you. Still, no one. People were pulling out 122 00:05:26.759 --> 00:05:28.519 like crazy. It really shocked me when you said, oh, 123 00:05:28.519 --> 00:05:30.480 it's gonna be hard to find someone debate me. I'm like, yeah, sure, 124 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:33.839 big name debater said no. Yeah. 125 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.199 I try to be charitable and say there's a lot 126 00:05:36.199 --> 00:05:39.399 of unknowns debating me because I come from a perspective. 127 00:05:39.439 --> 00:05:42.680 Eddie comes from a perspective that doesn't fit within the 128 00:05:42.800 --> 00:05:46.720 like Obama era or Trump era, fake polarization that was 129 00:05:46.759 --> 00:05:52.399 created where people on the left are extremely sensitive identity 130 00:05:52.399 --> 00:05:55.319 politics types. Yeah, and then people on the right can 131 00:05:55.360 --> 00:05:58.800 tell funny jokes. Right, that's like such a stupid divide. 132 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:01.240 Well, people try to in your too crazy, well, yell 133 00:06:01.279 --> 00:06:03.360 over him. You don't seem like he doesn't seem like 134 00:06:03.360 --> 00:06:05.560 any of that's true. I haven't said, like, no, I'll 135 00:06:05.600 --> 00:06:07.639 make sure that that's you know, I'm a fighter. I'm like, no, 136 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:10.199 no one at each other people. Oh no, he's too 137 00:06:10.199 --> 00:06:11.920 crazy about no people. They really don't want to debate 138 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:12.319 you people. 139 00:06:12.360 --> 00:06:14.920 Okay, people. Remember the debates that I have where I yell, 140 00:06:15.639 --> 00:06:18.040 and if you look at those debates, almost every time 141 00:06:18.079 --> 00:06:21.079 I'm losing my temper, it's because they are like being 142 00:06:21.079 --> 00:06:25.439 extremely disrespectful, right but fair. Everyone ignores the debates that 143 00:06:25.480 --> 00:06:27.920 I have where I'm completely calm and civil. No, everyone 144 00:06:27.920 --> 00:06:29.439 pretends those don't happen, even though. 145 00:06:29.279 --> 00:06:30.519 They're matching their energy. 146 00:06:30.639 --> 00:06:33.199 I match their energy absolutely, and you know, okay, I 147 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:34.360 have a temper whatever. 148 00:06:34.439 --> 00:06:35.040 I'll admit that. 149 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.279 Yeah, but it's just like I can't just be like 150 00:06:37.319 --> 00:06:40.920 disrespected and I spit on dopect me right straight up. 151 00:06:41.240 --> 00:06:43.480 But like most of the debates I have, I would say, 152 00:06:43.519 --> 00:06:46.040 are pretty like chill. They're pretty calm, and when the 153 00:06:46.079 --> 00:06:49.079 other persons civil, I commit to being civil as well, right, 154 00:06:49.120 --> 00:06:51.439 regardless of whatever views that they have. 155 00:06:51.879 --> 00:06:53.720 So hopefully we'll be able to put some debates forwards in 156 00:06:53.759 --> 00:06:56.360 the future. But let's just start with let's give your 157 00:06:56.360 --> 00:06:59.160 definition of communism, because sometimes I think we have different 158 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:00.319 ideas of what it is. 159 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:06.360 Yeah, so I would say that, Uh, fundamentally, what communism 160 00:07:06.480 --> 00:07:09.319 is about, right, is it's the basic demand of the 161 00:07:09.360 --> 00:07:14.759 majority of a population to put in command of the 162 00:07:14.839 --> 00:07:18.600 economic principles that make life possible, make a way of 163 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.480 life possible, make our ability to earn a living, to 164 00:07:21.519 --> 00:07:23.680 have families, and so on and so on. That the 165 00:07:23.720 --> 00:07:26.759 commanding principle should be that of the common good more 166 00:07:26.839 --> 00:07:29.800 or less. So that's my simplistic definition. And a lot 167 00:07:29.800 --> 00:07:36.680 of people don't know that communism comes before Marx. Really, yeah, community, no, 168 00:07:36.800 --> 00:07:40.279 not at all. In fact, when Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, 169 00:07:40.360 --> 00:07:43.399 the first opening lines, our specter is haunting Europe. Why 170 00:07:43.439 --> 00:07:47.439 because even before Marxist time there was a red scare. 171 00:07:47.480 --> 00:07:49.800 Before Marxist time, like the way we have a red 172 00:07:49.839 --> 00:07:51.879 scare now in a way where people are like, oh, 173 00:07:51.959 --> 00:07:55.120 you know, communism is this boogeyman or whatever. We can 174 00:07:55.120 --> 00:07:57.120 put a face on it and say that's Marx. But 175 00:07:57.160 --> 00:08:01.120 in Marxist time people were still getting free out by communism, 176 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:02.800 but there was no face on it. And I'll tell 177 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:07.399 you why, because that was a time where people's traditional 178 00:08:07.439 --> 00:08:10.360 ways of life, most people had their own land, they 179 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:12.600 had a traditional way of life, where they just could 180 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:15.480 raise a family whatever. There was a rhythm to life, 181 00:08:15.519 --> 00:08:18.360 so to speak. There was a predictability, right. But then 182 00:08:18.360 --> 00:08:22.800 what ended up happening is that through debt people's land 183 00:08:22.920 --> 00:08:27.120 started to get expropriated in something called because they owed money, 184 00:08:27.199 --> 00:08:31.120 so they went bankrupt and the capitalists or landlords would 185 00:08:31.160 --> 00:08:33.240 come in and gobble up their land. And that was 186 00:08:33.279 --> 00:08:36.360 something in England. It was called the enclosures, right where 187 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:40.879 basically people that were living on common land suddenly found 188 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:42.679 themselves living on private land. 189 00:08:42.960 --> 00:08:44.840 People kind of bought it out of nowhere. 190 00:08:44.600 --> 00:08:46.360 Out of nowhere, right, it used to be private, it 191 00:08:46.440 --> 00:08:49.000 used to be just common land. We bought this life. 192 00:08:49.200 --> 00:08:51.840 Exact process. It was the exact thing is what's going 193 00:08:51.919 --> 00:08:54.879 on in Palestine. And as a matter of fact, Marx 194 00:08:54.960 --> 00:08:58.159 earned his first bit of fame when he was a 195 00:08:58.240 --> 00:09:01.279 journalist reporting on something I don't want to bore people, 196 00:09:01.360 --> 00:09:03.679 but this is important. It was on the theft of 197 00:09:03.759 --> 00:09:07.440 wood in the Brandenburg Forest, I believe what was called 198 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:10.679 in Germany. So there was these peasants in Germany that 199 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:14.759 for hundreds and hundreds of years, when when branches would 200 00:09:14.759 --> 00:09:17.639 fall on the ground from trees, they would go and 201 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:18.679 collect the branches. 202 00:09:18.960 --> 00:09:19.200 It was. 203 00:09:19.320 --> 00:09:22.840 It was implicitly understood, this is all common. They've fallen down, 204 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:26.559 they've fallen down. We own it together, right, and they 205 00:09:26.559 --> 00:09:28.759 would it was crucial for them to heat their homes. 206 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:31.240 This wood. It was like where they would get their 207 00:09:31.279 --> 00:09:31.879 energy from. 208 00:09:32.000 --> 00:09:32.159 Right. 209 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:37.799 Suddenly, because of capitalistic reforms that happened in Prussia, Parliament 210 00:09:37.799 --> 00:09:40.879 wanted to introduce or the the whatever it was called. 211 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:44.200 They were trying to introduce a new law privatizing that land, 212 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:47.279 saying when they're picking up that wood, it's actually theft. 213 00:09:48.200 --> 00:09:50.600 And you know, I'm mentioning this because in this day 214 00:09:50.600 --> 00:09:53.759 and age, isn't that kind of sound familiar? Right, where 215 00:09:53.759 --> 00:09:56.159 there's so many things that we used to just have 216 00:09:56.679 --> 00:09:59.159 for free charges for water, and that's. 217 00:09:59.000 --> 00:09:59.440 What I mean. 218 00:09:59.480 --> 00:10:03.000 They just start in closing it and then suddenly it's 219 00:10:03.039 --> 00:10:05.039 no longer free. You have to pay for it, right, 220 00:10:05.080 --> 00:10:08.919 it's commodified. So it's like, because all of this stuff 221 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:14.159 was happening in Europe right the rise of capitalism, people 222 00:10:14.240 --> 00:10:17.360 could no longer afford their traditional way of life. If 223 00:10:17.399 --> 00:10:20.360 you're a familiarzz yeah exactly, if you're a peasant, you're 224 00:10:20.360 --> 00:10:23.440 collecting what okay, now you're stealing now you're living on land. 225 00:10:23.519 --> 00:10:25.879 Now the land is private property owned by some landlord, 226 00:10:25.960 --> 00:10:28.519 and you can't pay to afford it anymore. So what 227 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:32.399 ended up happening is the majority of people became proletarians. 228 00:10:32.559 --> 00:10:32.759 Right. 229 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:37.320 A proletarian is somebody who owns nothing except the labor 230 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.840 that they have that they could sell. So doesn't that 231 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:43.240 remind you of today where people's traditional way of life 232 00:10:43.759 --> 00:10:46.480 was completely disrupted because of two thousand and eight and 233 00:10:46.519 --> 00:10:49.679 other things. They can no longer afford homes, they could 234 00:10:49.759 --> 00:10:53.279 no longer afford to basically get by in a you know, 235 00:10:53.320 --> 00:10:55.759 the white picket fence American dream kind of style way. 236 00:10:56.000 --> 00:10:58.879 Now they're going and doing Uber and they're doing door dash, 237 00:10:58.960 --> 00:11:00.799 and they're doing gigs services, just. 238 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:03.320 A lot of grandmas and stuff. A lot of people 239 00:11:03.360 --> 00:11:05.480 are really struggling right now. It's like some of these 240 00:11:05.480 --> 00:11:07.519 people are out of touch. Yeah, they don't really. People 241 00:11:07.519 --> 00:11:09.759 could barely put gas in their car. It's that. 242 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:12.799 So the same thing that was happening then is now 243 00:11:12.840 --> 00:11:16.600 happening today, just in a different way and primarily driven 244 00:11:16.639 --> 00:11:20.799 by automation and AI. Right, And that's why I think 245 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:24.240 Marxism is important in a way, or what Marx was 246 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:27.080 at least trying to talk about and write about. We 247 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:30.399 find parallels between that and what's going on now. Right, 248 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:35.960 So communism in the midst of all this was this 249 00:11:36.360 --> 00:11:41.480 growing sentiment among the population even before Marx that was saying, hey, 250 00:11:41.480 --> 00:11:44.799 this is bullshit. You know, we need we need to 251 00:11:44.919 --> 00:11:48.720 change the property relations, this thing about turning everything into 252 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.919 private property and stuff, and we need to restore a 253 00:11:52.039 --> 00:11:54.879 principle of the common good, and we need to kind 254 00:11:54.919 --> 00:11:59.360 of restore or at least acquire some kind of sense 255 00:11:59.399 --> 00:12:04.440 of you know, common welfare and common existence that we 256 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.919 have clearly lost, right because like we can no longer 257 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.679 sustainably get by anymore. 258 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:12.600 Right, it's kind of pointing in that direction now. And 259 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.679 there's ridiculous things. I'll use the example from yesterday, the 260 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:21.000 hotel a fifty three dollar resort fee, Like, isn't the 261 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:23.919 hotel price like what is that fifty All the hotels 262 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:25.720 in Vegas have that? What is that cover? So you 263 00:12:25.759 --> 00:12:28.559 could use their pool? Shouldn't the hotel price cover that? 264 00:12:28.679 --> 00:12:31.519 And Yeah, and the way they jack up rents all 265 00:12:31.559 --> 00:12:32.039 the time. 266 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.000 They can no matter what it is, they'll call you 267 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:36.360 like these apartment buildings, do it. I have lived in 268 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:39.679 they'll just raise it as even subscription services, every every 269 00:12:39.720 --> 00:12:41.440 every lot of times. It makes more sense to move 270 00:12:41.559 --> 00:12:43.799 because they try raising it so much. They're just greedy 271 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.639 trying to suck. And I agree with you aspect that's 272 00:12:46.679 --> 00:12:48.960 been talking to on some things, but I agree with you. 273 00:12:49.039 --> 00:12:53.120 Basically, like read, people in power felt guilty in a way, 274 00:12:53.240 --> 00:12:54.919 or they they knew that what they were doing they 275 00:12:54.960 --> 00:12:58.039 couldn't get away with forever. So they created a red 276 00:12:58.080 --> 00:13:02.279 scare even before marks exist, you know, the boogeyman of communism, 277 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:05.679 so that anytime somebody raised an objection to what was 278 00:13:05.720 --> 00:13:09.679 going on, anytime somebody said, you know, the current direction 279 00:13:09.799 --> 00:13:13.000 of society or how it's being driven and how it's 280 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:16.799 developing is unfair to the majority of people, they would say, 281 00:13:16.799 --> 00:13:20.039 this is communism. You want to communalize everything, you want 282 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:23.080 everyone to share everything, all the same arguments that we 283 00:13:23.080 --> 00:13:26.879 were taught in classrooms growing up in America about communism. 284 00:13:26.960 --> 00:13:30.600 With the red scare, even before Marx wrote the Communist Manifesto, 285 00:13:30.679 --> 00:13:35.279 the elites, the people who, the landlords, the capitalists, they 286 00:13:35.279 --> 00:13:38.240 were pushing the same straw man. Because people people aren't 287 00:13:38.240 --> 00:13:41.480 demanding that we all share a toothbrush. Yeah, and all 288 00:13:41.519 --> 00:13:44.080 these ridiculous things sharing lives and all this nonsense. 289 00:13:44.159 --> 00:13:45.759 Yeah, I want to get into some of this right, right, 290 00:13:45.799 --> 00:13:48.279 the things that I think, I just agree with you perspective. 291 00:13:47.919 --> 00:13:51.080 But like from the beginning, it was like, you're, okay, 292 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:54.039 you're a communist. It was a boogeyman word, right it is? 293 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.360 And what market So I'm picking a communist part. Like 294 00:13:57.360 --> 00:14:00.240 what what Marx and Co. Did Is they said, Okay, 295 00:14:00.759 --> 00:14:03.600 this is your boogeyman word. We're gonna embrace that because 296 00:14:03.600 --> 00:14:07.279 we need we need a comprehensively revolutionary position against the 297 00:14:07.320 --> 00:14:11.080 status quo, which is fundamentally incompatible with human dignity. So 298 00:14:11.159 --> 00:14:14.879 they proudly adopted the label communist right, which which had 299 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.279 been a boogeyman scary word in Europe at the time, 300 00:14:18.200 --> 00:14:20.279 and they said, okay, we are the communists. We do 301 00:14:20.360 --> 00:14:24.440 believe in a comprehensively revolutionary change that needs to happen 302 00:14:24.960 --> 00:14:28.720 because society does not work for human beings. 303 00:14:28.879 --> 00:14:30.799 You know, it's not working right now in America. I 304 00:14:30.799 --> 00:14:33.039 think anyone can kind of see that times are tough, 305 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:34.799 Like was it six months ago or something? I think 306 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:36.799 they cut the food stamps and I have a house 307 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:38.759 I rent out the girl called me all stressed out. 308 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:40.639 She's asking she coud get fifty dollars off because she 309 00:14:40.679 --> 00:14:43.360 couldn't afford to feed her kids, Like just take the 310 00:14:43.440 --> 00:14:45.519 month off. She started like crying because. 311 00:14:46.440 --> 00:14:48.879 People are using a new app called Klarna. 312 00:14:49.080 --> 00:14:51.879 You heard that, you mentioned it yesterday. What's it do? 313 00:14:52.360 --> 00:14:55.320 It's like people can no longer afford like food and stuff, 314 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:57.440 so basically there's this new app that they have to 315 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:00.360 uh that they're using to just like take out short 316 00:15:00.440 --> 00:15:02.639 term loans basically to eat. 317 00:15:02.840 --> 00:15:05.320 And you realize, like, I'm not rich, but I'm doing okay. 318 00:15:05.360 --> 00:15:07.120 But when you hear someone saying I'm trying to feed 319 00:15:07.159 --> 00:15:10.279 my kids fifty dollars, it's like, just give them a 320 00:15:10.279 --> 00:15:12.360 little more. People are too greedy. They never want to 321 00:15:12.399 --> 00:15:14.360 like if you have a little extra, it doesn't hurt 322 00:15:14.360 --> 00:15:15.360 to give someone sometimes. 323 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.519 And yeah, I mean, you know, the thing that Mark's 324 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:22.600 introduced to communism was he emphasized something that I think 325 00:15:22.679 --> 00:15:25.919 is pretty fundamental, which is our society is just no 326 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:29.240 longer human. This is not for human beings. It's human 327 00:15:29.240 --> 00:15:32.120 beings have kids. Human beings can't afford them. We can't 328 00:15:32.120 --> 00:15:34.559 afford them. So what is this for? It's clearly not 329 00:15:34.559 --> 00:15:37.039 for human beings. It's for some other principle. 330 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.200 It's the communism. It's like capitalists for US. Communists for 331 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:42.559 they take everything. I don't know how you heard that. 332 00:15:42.639 --> 00:15:44.879 They take everything, and they are not even building a 333 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:49.240 human society. They are worshiping Mammon, and and now we're 334 00:15:49.279 --> 00:15:52.960 cattle exactly, we're cattle now. And then now the highest 335 00:15:52.960 --> 00:15:56.200 circles of the ruling elite even openly say they want 336 00:15:56.240 --> 00:15:59.279 to just create an AI that's going to replace humanity. 337 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:02.159 They don't even heide it. They don't get something that 338 00:16:02.200 --> 00:16:04.799 we might disagree on. Right, Okay, I'd like to start 339 00:16:04.879 --> 00:16:08.919 businesses working hard. I do think we should like share 340 00:16:08.919 --> 00:16:10.679 a little, but I do think people should make completely 341 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:12.120 different amounts of money. I think you should be able 342 00:16:12.159 --> 00:16:15.320 to start businesses, you know, at having employees. Some people 343 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:17.279 are a lot better worker than others. So I think 344 00:16:17.320 --> 00:16:19.639 maybe everyone deserves a job that wants to work. But 345 00:16:19.679 --> 00:16:21.759 I think we're also not equal. So what are your 346 00:16:21.799 --> 00:16:24.360 thoughts and how does communism or your version of communism 347 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:25.360 deal with stuff like that. 348 00:16:26.120 --> 00:16:27.600 I don't I don't mean to sound like a like 349 00:16:27.639 --> 00:16:31.279 a religious fanatic constantly quoting the scripture, but Funnily enough, 350 00:16:31.759 --> 00:16:34.600 Marx and Engels were the ones who insisted on the 351 00:16:34.639 --> 00:16:37.159 fact that human beings are not equal. They said, human 352 00:16:37.200 --> 00:16:40.519 beings have different skills, human beings are physically different, they 353 00:16:40.600 --> 00:16:46.159 have different mental capacity. To absolutely, they said, equality actually 354 00:16:46.960 --> 00:16:50.399 is an outdated term that comes from the bourgeoisie, right, 355 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:53.360 because you know, they created this framework of democracy and 356 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:56.759 universal equality before the law, where we're all equal before 357 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:58.279 the law, which is a good principle, right for a 358 00:16:58.360 --> 00:16:59.360 lot for the. 359 00:16:59.360 --> 00:17:00.000 Law, right, right. 360 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:03.960 And then they said for communists, equality is not really 361 00:17:04.000 --> 00:17:08.440 the fundamental principle because we are actually different. Right. But 362 00:17:09.039 --> 00:17:12.720 I think the point is we should allow our differences 363 00:17:12.759 --> 00:17:17.279 to manifest in a natural way rather than in a because, 364 00:17:17.279 --> 00:17:24.319 for example, dynastic monopolistic control by force is not you know, 365 00:17:24.359 --> 00:17:27.519 the assertion of natural skill differences. I think there's a 366 00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:30.079 lot of talent and natural skill. It's actually being suppressed 367 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:33.440 because of the system, right, because of the institutions. But 368 00:17:33.640 --> 00:17:35.400 you do raise a good point, which is, well, what 369 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.799 about initiative, what about entrepreneurship? What about the ability to 370 00:17:38.880 --> 00:17:42.000 break away from the norm of what people are doing 371 00:17:42.559 --> 00:17:46.799 and you know, have the resources and the ability to experiment, 372 00:17:46.839 --> 00:17:47.759 to do something new. 373 00:17:48.000 --> 00:17:48.160 Now. 374 00:17:48.160 --> 00:17:50.720 I don't think that's incompatible with communism at all. In fact, 375 00:17:51.839 --> 00:17:55.839 I would say something people would find very shocking. Entrepreneurship 376 00:17:56.160 --> 00:18:01.000 is not incompatible with communism. All entrepreneurship means is you're 377 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:03.240 going to take the initiative. You're going to take an 378 00:18:03.319 --> 00:18:08.160 enterprising initiative to be more efficient economically and create economically, right, 379 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:11.759 And communists don't want to eliminate that. 380 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:13.599 You know, do you all make the same amount money 381 00:18:13.680 --> 00:18:16.039 or no? No, no, there's your communism. We're not all 382 00:18:16.079 --> 00:18:17.240 getting paid exactly. 383 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:20.519 Absolutely not, there's no. I mean, people have very reasonable 384 00:18:20.599 --> 00:18:25.240 people have different real Look, if someone is using resources 385 00:18:25.240 --> 00:18:28.559 in an efficient way, they should be given more resources. 386 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:31.240 I work a lot harder than most people. Yes I'm 387 00:18:31.279 --> 00:18:33.240 not like greedy, but I feel like if I'm doing 388 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:35.279 a lot more work, why should I equally share the 389 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.599 money if someone's not. But I also think I don't 390 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:39.440 want my fellow mental live and poverty either. 391 00:18:39.599 --> 00:18:42.839 That's that's what I mean. It's like, you know, at 392 00:18:42.839 --> 00:18:47.960 a certain level, the majority of the inequality in our 393 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:51.400 society is not simply an inequality between individuals. Although that's 394 00:18:51.440 --> 00:18:53.519 a very big problem. I would say, you know, when 395 00:18:53.559 --> 00:18:55.759 when you have some people that can't afford to feed 396 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:58.039 their kids, is a problem, and then some people that 397 00:18:58.240 --> 00:19:02.559 just like are are are just wastefully just buying twenty yachts, so. 398 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:05.839 Going, yeah, ThReD millionaire, right, that guy's actually cool. But 399 00:19:05.880 --> 00:19:08.839 sometimes these clubs will buy bottles and like pour out champagne, 400 00:19:09.039 --> 00:19:09.400 right right. 401 00:19:09.440 --> 00:19:12.279 I think that's I think that's like, that's like a 402 00:19:12.359 --> 00:19:15.960 cultural problem mainly, I think though economically speaking, the main 403 00:19:16.000 --> 00:19:20.240 inequality has to do with the immense concentration of power 404 00:19:20.279 --> 00:19:24.160 and leverage in institutions that don't have our best interests 405 00:19:24.200 --> 00:19:28.759 at heart, right, like Black Rock and these financials, But 406 00:19:28.799 --> 00:19:32.680 they don't operate on a principle, despite owning and controlling 407 00:19:32.839 --> 00:19:35.119 the majority of all the wealth that we have, they 408 00:19:35.119 --> 00:19:37.200 don't care about us, you know what I. 409 00:19:37.079 --> 00:19:39.519 Mean, at all? At all, right, at all. 410 00:19:40.519 --> 00:19:42.599 And they still depend on us by the way they 411 00:19:42.640 --> 00:19:45.119 depend on us, because we're giving them the data. We're 412 00:19:45.119 --> 00:19:48.319 giving them our data, we're giving them our labor. We're 413 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:52.240 we're the ones who are producing like the the things 414 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:54.559 that they're gobbling up and stealing in the first place. 415 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:58.759 And yet even though we are like the raw material 416 00:19:59.240 --> 00:20:02.319 and the sore so of the wealth they don't care 417 00:20:03.119 --> 00:20:05.799 about our well being at all. They don't care about reproducing. 418 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.400 Yeah, so here, somewhere we'll all actually take the communist 419 00:20:08.440 --> 00:20:10.200 position or I don't know if that'd be the right term. 420 00:20:10.279 --> 00:20:13.079 Black rock and blackstone. They're buying up homes like crazy 421 00:20:13.200 --> 00:20:15.319 y Vegas. Last year, twenty five percent of the homes 422 00:20:15.319 --> 00:20:17.640 that were bought. But then, why are we letting these 423 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.240 places buy homes that should completely be banded. I don't 424 00:20:20.240 --> 00:20:21.680 know if that would be communism, But that's a ton. 425 00:20:21.519 --> 00:20:23.799 Of peo, and they're buying them to speculate. They're not 426 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:25.920 buying them to make it more efficient for people to 427 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:26.240 live in. 428 00:20:27.720 --> 00:20:29.920 That's just driving up the cost. Now young people can't 429 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:32.240 get homes. I also say, okay, if I own a home, 430 00:20:32.240 --> 00:20:34.319 why do I care how much what my home is worth. 431 00:20:34.720 --> 00:20:36.279 It's the price my home goes down a little bit, 432 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:37.440 it doesn't matter because I live there. 433 00:20:37.880 --> 00:20:40.839 Yeah, And then that's you know, that's that's that's where 434 00:20:40.839 --> 00:20:44.680 the communist critique of private property comes from. Now, we 435 00:20:45.000 --> 00:20:48.119 when we think of private property, think of personal property. 436 00:20:48.160 --> 00:20:50.519 We think of our homes, the things that we actually 437 00:20:50.759 --> 00:20:52.119 do and use and work with. 438 00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:53.519 And I want to be able to own my home. 439 00:20:53.599 --> 00:20:56.359 Yeah, absolutely, it's normal and natural that a human being 440 00:20:56.720 --> 00:20:58.759 wants to be in possession of the things that they 441 00:20:58.880 --> 00:21:02.920 use right and have. But it's in the name of 442 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:06.519 private property that Black Rock gets away with doing all this. Right, 443 00:21:06.559 --> 00:21:09.000 they're just saying, well, it's our private property. There's you 444 00:21:09.079 --> 00:21:11.759 can't you can't raise any social concern about it because 445 00:21:11.799 --> 00:21:13.559 this is just our private. 446 00:21:13.319 --> 00:21:16.160 The right to have trillions of dollars buy politicians. I 447 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:17.920 think the Supreme Court ruled it is okay to buy 448 00:21:17.920 --> 00:21:18.720 our politicians. 449 00:21:18.880 --> 00:21:23.119 And yeah, so we legalize corruption. We institutionalized corruption, and 450 00:21:23.119 --> 00:21:27.000 then moreover to add insult to injury, the monopoly on 451 00:21:27.039 --> 00:21:29.200 the creation of the wealth and credit in the first 452 00:21:29.200 --> 00:21:32.079 place they control. It's not even the government that's in 453 00:21:32.119 --> 00:21:36.440 command of federal reserve banks. They're private cartel of banks, 454 00:21:36.599 --> 00:21:37.680 private banks. 455 00:21:37.559 --> 00:21:40.200 That print money and then they charge us interest on it. 456 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:44.240 They print money on our dime make life more unaffordable 457 00:21:44.279 --> 00:21:47.039 for us when they print the money, meaning you know, 458 00:21:48.039 --> 00:21:51.759 interest on servicing the national debt not only increases our 459 00:21:51.799 --> 00:21:55.599 tax burden, but it increases inflation, It increases all these 460 00:21:55.680 --> 00:21:58.799 kind of like austerity measures by the government that take 461 00:21:58.839 --> 00:22:02.839 away our services, so life gets worse for us, right 462 00:22:02.880 --> 00:22:05.240 while they do this, and then meanwhile, what are they 463 00:22:05.279 --> 00:22:08.279 doing with the money that they print? Giving it to themselves, yeah, 464 00:22:08.319 --> 00:22:09.119 to have and. 465 00:22:09.039 --> 00:22:11.359 Giving it to themselves they charge interest, giving it. 466 00:22:11.319 --> 00:22:15.359 To themselves to swallow up and take control over what 467 00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:17.039 little wealthy American people. 468 00:22:17.039 --> 00:22:18.920 All right, so the homes, the banks own most of 469 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:21.400 the homes, not you, unless that's all they pay off. Yeah. Yeah, 470 00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.680 people don't get mad. Oh you're talking to a communists. 471 00:22:23.680 --> 00:22:25.720 They should be mad at these vampires. 472 00:22:26.640 --> 00:22:30.799 Well, look, we never were such an anti communist nation 473 00:22:31.200 --> 00:22:35.039 until the Cold War when the CIA started taking command 474 00:22:35.079 --> 00:22:38.079 over the media in the country, which they did Hollywood, 475 00:22:38.119 --> 00:22:43.759 the media and a group well yeah, design, yeah, yeah, 476 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:46.000 but you know, people don't know this, but the CIA 477 00:22:46.160 --> 00:22:50.640 directly has curatorial control over everything that Hollywood produces, over 478 00:22:50.680 --> 00:22:53.759 everything that we're seeing on TV, and YadA, YadA, YadA, 479 00:22:53.799 --> 00:22:57.200 because a lot of the times these studios depend upon 480 00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:01.400 government contracts and subsidies, right, In order to get those 481 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.640 subsidies and contracts, and sometimes in action movies to use 482 00:23:04.920 --> 00:23:08.319 government stuff, the CIA has the final say on the scripts. Right, 483 00:23:08.920 --> 00:23:14.200 And since World War Two, in the post war period especially, 484 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:19.200 the CIA has basically intervene in almost every piece of 485 00:23:19.279 --> 00:23:22.000 media that's ever been put out to ensure that it 486 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:25.599 aligns with anti communist principles. And why was this because 487 00:23:26.400 --> 00:23:31.240 ultimately it was the Rockefellers, the Morgans and others, Rothschilds 488 00:23:31.279 --> 00:23:34.079 as well older money that came from across the pond. 489 00:23:34.480 --> 00:23:38.039 More or less, they were very threatened by communism. Okay, 490 00:23:38.039 --> 00:23:38.920 they were very threatened. 491 00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:41.000 They would lose some of their wealth and power. 492 00:23:41.079 --> 00:23:43.359 Not some, all of it, They'd lose all of it, right, 493 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:51.480 And they were extremely hell bent on ensuring that all Americans, 494 00:23:51.559 --> 00:23:54.240 every generation of Americans that grows up, when they hear 495 00:23:54.279 --> 00:23:56.599 the word communism, it would be a red scare. 496 00:23:56.680 --> 00:23:59.240 Yeah, people just recoil like he's a communist. 497 00:23:59.599 --> 00:24:04.759 They did. They are so meticulously psychological in terms of 498 00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.519 their method of convincing people that communism is the worst 499 00:24:08.559 --> 00:24:11.400 thing ever that they made it about. Okay, they're no 500 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:14.359 longer going to have a monopoly on our entire existence. 501 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.880 They're no longer to control all of our wealth and 502 00:24:16.920 --> 00:24:20.400 have our entire country and economy run on the basis 503 00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:25.400 of profit mongoring. They went from that to, Okay, the 504 00:24:25.480 --> 00:24:28.319 communists want to take your homes away. They want to 505 00:24:28.319 --> 00:24:31.200 take your opportunities away. Don't want to take false No, 506 00:24:31.279 --> 00:24:32.559 that's absolutely false. 507 00:24:32.680 --> 00:24:35.160 You know, I think it's important understanding what you mean 508 00:24:35.200 --> 00:24:37.519 when you say communism, because obviously think you should own 509 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:40.200 a home. I guess another tough question gets how much 510 00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:41.880 wealth can you have? Can you have a few mill? 511 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.640 Like where? I think? 512 00:24:43.680 --> 00:24:47.880 Look, wealth, when it gets to a level of scale, 513 00:24:48.400 --> 00:24:53.079 entails responsibility. Right, You're ultimately becoming responsible for a part 514 00:24:53.119 --> 00:24:57.480 of society. And you know, I think that at a 515 00:24:57.519 --> 00:24:59.759 certain scale. I mean even in China, for example, they 516 00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:04.319 have even these are state owned enterprises, right, what we're 517 00:25:04.319 --> 00:25:08.119 talking about there are effective managers. You're an effective manager 518 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:13.480 for a commonwealth or a common industry, a common division 519 00:25:13.519 --> 00:25:16.240 of labor that we depend on, right, at a certain level, 520 00:25:16.559 --> 00:25:19.279 and it's natural, it's only natural that such people that 521 00:25:19.359 --> 00:25:22.000 have such a high degree of responsibility, talent and skill 522 00:25:22.200 --> 00:25:23.480 do have a higher status. 523 00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.119 You know. We don't believe everyone that is important to me? Yeah, yeah, 524 00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:28.359 And I don't need to be greedy. And it's not 525 00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.680 trying to pay my workers good too. Well, you're but 526 00:25:30.720 --> 00:25:32.039 I have been making money to do that as well. 527 00:25:32.039 --> 00:25:34.440 But whenever since make more little money, I give my workers. 528 00:25:34.519 --> 00:25:36.720 Rea want them happy, you don't want them miserable. 529 00:25:36.799 --> 00:25:40.920 Take the MMA, So, for example, MMA fighters who are successful, 530 00:25:41.119 --> 00:25:46.240 they're champions, they're glorified, they're celebrities, they're heroes. In communist countries, 531 00:25:46.920 --> 00:25:49.480 you did not have an equality of status. People that 532 00:25:49.519 --> 00:25:54.799 were people that performed exceptionally stars, not only athletes, managers, 533 00:25:55.680 --> 00:25:58.599 people that were innovative scientists, and so on and so on. 534 00:25:59.079 --> 00:26:01.880 These people were glory. Statues were built of them. They 535 00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:05.359 had high prestige within society, they were highly respected. There's 536 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:07.519 nothing wrong with their being variants when it comes to 537 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:08.200 those kinds. 538 00:26:08.079 --> 00:26:09.839 Because we're just not all the same is humans that 539 00:26:09.880 --> 00:26:13.640 they're none naturally, absolutely not. You can't take that away. 540 00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:14.119 You can't. 541 00:26:14.119 --> 00:26:14.440 You can't. 542 00:26:14.480 --> 00:26:16.759 You can't take away the natural variation that comes in 543 00:26:16.839 --> 00:26:20.119 human ability and skill. But at the same time, there's 544 00:26:20.200 --> 00:26:25.680 no individual variability that can justify an individual claiming to 545 00:26:26.000 --> 00:26:28.839 section off an entire part of society, claim it's their 546 00:26:28.920 --> 00:26:33.200 private property, and govern this section on a basis that 547 00:26:33.319 --> 00:26:36.519 has no regard for humanity at all or for all. 548 00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.400 These companies get handed like the Natural Resources of America 549 00:26:40.920 --> 00:26:43.440 who gave them that run, to be circled back to us. 550 00:26:44.000 --> 00:26:49.160 Absolutely, our natural resources, our energy, our common inheritance. These 551 00:26:49.279 --> 00:26:52.039 things should be owned by we the people in the 552 00:26:52.119 --> 00:26:54.039 sense that they are put into the service of our 553 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:55.720 common good as a people. 554 00:26:55.880 --> 00:26:58.319 Right, Yeah, I think in Alaska, I think they all 555 00:26:58.359 --> 00:27:00.759 get given money because the oil they have. That's pretty 556 00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:04.000 common in communism. So like, why does that like get 557 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.119 left alone? Wouldn't that couldn't you argue as communism? 558 00:27:06.799 --> 00:27:09.880 Well you could argue that it. It definitely aligns more 559 00:27:09.960 --> 00:27:11.559 with the communistic principle than. 560 00:27:11.440 --> 00:27:13.359 The contistic people live in Alaska. 561 00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.319 Yeah, yeah, I mean I wouldn't say, I wouldn't call 562 00:27:15.359 --> 00:27:18.240 it communists necessarily, but I get your point. You know, 563 00:27:18.559 --> 00:27:20.200 you're running something on the base. 564 00:27:20.119 --> 00:27:21.559 Share in the money to people. They don't do that 565 00:27:21.599 --> 00:27:22.119 anywhere else. 566 00:27:22.599 --> 00:27:24.799 Well, they do it in some countries, but not in 567 00:27:24.839 --> 00:27:26.000 the US. Not not in the US. 568 00:27:26.039 --> 00:27:28.599 Wouldn't mind getting given three thousand dollars every month from 569 00:27:28.640 --> 00:27:30.400 the oil? And it makes sense. 570 00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:32.440 So if it's the oil we are actually we're on 571 00:27:32.759 --> 00:27:35.599 track to be the number one energy producing oil producing 572 00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:36.400 nation in the world. 573 00:27:36.400 --> 00:27:37.119 Where does that money go? 574 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:39.440 Not to us, certainly not to us. 575 00:27:39.519 --> 00:27:40.799 We pay taxes. Where does that money go? 576 00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:43.799 It goes to servicing the national debt. 577 00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:47.599 Yeah, they print more money. That's another tax. Yeah, absolutely, 578 00:27:47.720 --> 00:27:49.559 the taxes in our houses sells tax. 579 00:27:49.920 --> 00:27:50.119 Yeah. 580 00:27:50.200 --> 00:27:52.359 It'd be one thing if we had this amazing country 581 00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:55.680 with schools, roads, great roads, but we. 582 00:27:55.759 --> 00:27:58.799 Don't like China, for example, they have high speed rail. 583 00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.240 They have excellent public infrastructure. I mean, say what you 584 00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.960 want about China, nobody can disagree with the fact they 585 00:28:05.039 --> 00:28:07.440 have world class public infrastructure. 586 00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.400 You know. Yeah, Jackson Actually Jackson invited me to come 587 00:28:10.440 --> 00:28:11.799 out to China when I was in Vietnam, but I 588 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:13.799 couldn't make it. People have mad. It makes I made 589 00:28:13.799 --> 00:28:16.240 a post just simply simply sharing what I see with 590 00:28:16.279 --> 00:28:19.920 my own eisoneers that Vietnam was thriving. People. It's called me, 591 00:28:20.440 --> 00:28:21.880 you know, bad way, but I can just see. You 592 00:28:21.960 --> 00:28:24.440 can see when a country is thriving. They have pride, 593 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:27.279 they're making nice bridges, they're building well, they're trying. 594 00:28:27.319 --> 00:28:29.960 They're trying to They tried to convince us that communism 595 00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.720 is anti American, that you're somehow a trader to this. 596 00:28:32.720 --> 00:28:35.480 Country people a trader and stuff for simply saying, you know. 597 00:28:35.559 --> 00:28:38.240 What doesn't make sense to me. Aren't the traders the 598 00:28:38.319 --> 00:28:40.680 people who don't love their country and love their people. 599 00:28:41.039 --> 00:28:43.279 Aren't the traders, the people who want to sell our 600 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.720 country on the cheap to international financiers and banksters. 601 00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:49.119 Traders. 602 00:28:50.200 --> 00:28:53.559 The real patriots are the ones who want to see 603 00:28:53.599 --> 00:28:56.920 their neighbors, if not thriving, at the very least living 604 00:28:56.960 --> 00:28:57.880 a dignified life. 605 00:28:58.079 --> 00:28:58.559 I don't want to. 606 00:28:58.599 --> 00:29:02.160 I don't want my campaign atriots to be oding on drugs, 607 00:29:02.200 --> 00:29:03.200 to be living in despair. 608 00:29:03.359 --> 00:29:03.759 I don't want. 609 00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:06.000 I don't want to see mothers who are my compatriots 610 00:29:06.400 --> 00:29:09.319 and the nation that I live in struggle to feed 611 00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:09.839 their kids. 612 00:29:10.200 --> 00:29:12.680 You know, I agree. I think this is an area 613 00:29:12.720 --> 00:29:15.079 where like some of these far left wing communists they 614 00:29:15.240 --> 00:29:18.279 support like criminals, drug addicts, they try to act like 615 00:29:18.319 --> 00:29:19.920 them roun free. And I think you differ in. 616 00:29:19.960 --> 00:29:26.680 Your absolutely because yeah, because look, no communist state in 617 00:29:26.839 --> 00:29:33.599 history permitted anti social hooliganistic behavior. Yeah you know, yeah, absolutely. 618 00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:38.240 You you enforce and support pro social values. You know, 619 00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:42.319 you don't allow people to be an enemy of the 620 00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.319 well being of society and making it dangerous for our 621 00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:48.119 kids to be on public transportation or for women to 622 00:29:48.200 --> 00:29:50.960 walk around safely at night. And say what you want 623 00:29:51.000 --> 00:29:53.279 about you know, communists, you go to a communist state. 624 00:29:53.319 --> 00:29:56.079 At almost any point in history, it was very safe 625 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:57.599 for a woman to walk out in the middle of 626 00:29:57.640 --> 00:29:58.519 the night and feel. 627 00:29:59.039 --> 00:29:59.799 They should be but it's not. 628 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:02.480 No, it's not it's at all. And you know it's 629 00:30:02.680 --> 00:30:06.319 that's actually a crazy thing. How women can't even like 630 00:30:06.440 --> 00:30:08.160 walk alone in public. 631 00:30:08.079 --> 00:30:11.000 Right, especially for fear. It's terrible champions even during the day. 632 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.640 And these guys, it'll be the same view people arrested 633 00:30:13.799 --> 00:30:16.319 over and over and over, and they'll be like, oh, 634 00:30:16.400 --> 00:30:18.200 they're the victims. At some point, you got to be 635 00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:20.480 this person's a detriment society, and you have to handle 636 00:30:20.519 --> 00:30:21.799 them some way, some way, harshly. 637 00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:26.000 You have to harshly punish all the criminal, anti social 638 00:30:26.119 --> 00:30:28.960 behavior that comes from the top and the bottom. But 639 00:30:29.079 --> 00:30:31.759 at the same time, we do have a special responsibility 640 00:30:32.200 --> 00:30:35.440 to address the causes. Yeah, you know, I agree address 641 00:30:35.519 --> 00:30:37.759 the causes. I mean, look, I believe we have free will. 642 00:30:37.839 --> 00:30:40.240 I'm not going to say that all of the bad 643 00:30:40.319 --> 00:30:42.759 behavior of the people that exist in this country is 644 00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.880 purely a consequence of the social conditions, but I will 645 00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:47.839 say a whole lot of it is probably well, it 646 00:30:47.880 --> 00:30:48.319 doesn't help. 647 00:30:48.400 --> 00:30:50.799 Like when the way Oxy cotton On and then COVID 648 00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:52.640 they shut down the country. What are you gonna do? Oh? 649 00:30:52.720 --> 00:30:54.759 Do ox cotton? I feel better. I'm sitting here bored, 650 00:30:54.799 --> 00:30:55.440 depressed at home. 651 00:30:55.519 --> 00:30:58.319 When people aren't raised right, they don't have a good environment, 652 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.319 they don't have good schooling, don't have good access to 653 00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:06.880 you know, basic community, communal values, you know, culture. 654 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:09.559 These everything. I think here's a good question. These left 655 00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.160 wing communists, I don't think you're part of They try 656 00:31:12.200 --> 00:31:14.960 to attack the family and the father, Like, what's your 657 00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:17.240 thoughts on that? Yeah, so. 658 00:31:18.880 --> 00:31:21.240 This is another thing that we you know, it's almost 659 00:31:21.279 --> 00:31:24.839 like there's a there's a there's a section of people 660 00:31:24.880 --> 00:31:28.759 in this country calling themselves communists who are internalizing all 661 00:31:28.799 --> 00:31:33.279 the anti communists propaganda that Americans were fed with and saying, yes, 662 00:31:33.359 --> 00:31:35.240 we embrace that. You know, we want to get rid 663 00:31:35.279 --> 00:31:37.880 of families, we want to absolutely we hate our country. 664 00:31:38.000 --> 00:31:43.160 We hate you know, we hate everything about America. You know, 665 00:31:43.400 --> 00:31:45.759 the majority of people white people are bad and so 666 00:31:45.839 --> 00:31:48.720 on and so on, and you know, my response to 667 00:31:48.799 --> 00:31:52.200 it is that these people are usually I would to 668 00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:55.680 be charitable, I would say maybe they're younger, they're just edgyts. 669 00:31:56.319 --> 00:31:57.880 A lot of them are younger, A lot of them 670 00:31:58.960 --> 00:32:01.359 are struggling and have issues with their own families. 671 00:32:01.480 --> 00:32:03.599 Probably maybe they didn't have the father there for them. 672 00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.319 They probably and you know what, look, what is the 673 00:32:06.440 --> 00:32:10.000 ultimate cause of the degradation of the basic respect for 674 00:32:10.119 --> 00:32:14.720 your father in the home. Probably the proletarianization of the 675 00:32:14.799 --> 00:32:20.000 majority of people where the father is, you know, losing 676 00:32:20.119 --> 00:32:22.119 his entire income, his way of life. 677 00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.039 He can get depressed, follows get depressed. 678 00:32:24.200 --> 00:32:25.920 He's not if a man's not evil to take care 679 00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:26.839 of his family, he's the. 680 00:32:26.839 --> 00:32:30.200 Most humiliating, absolutely thing ever. I remember my first daughter. 681 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.759 I was struggling to feed her and it was rough, 682 00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:35.160 you know, like embarrassing, thinking I would go hungry because 683 00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:36.559 I had to make sure my daughter had food. And 684 00:32:36.799 --> 00:32:39.599 it's tough when you're struggling with that. Thanks for watching 685 00:32:39.759 --> 00:32:43.240 fight Back Podcast. If you like the show, like subscribe 686 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:47.160 or share the video. There's also donation links and the descriptions. 687 00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:50.599 All Right, quick Breaks talked about something I've just started using, 688 00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.240 rumble wallet. If you've ever been curious about buying an 689 00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:56.240 invest in crypocurrencies or bitcoin or tether but felt like 690 00:32:56.319 --> 00:32:59.119 it was too complicated, rumble wallet is an easy way 691 00:32:59.240 --> 00:33:02.000 to get started. You can buy, sell, and manage your 692 00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.359 cryptocurrencies all in one place. The app is super easy 693 00:33:05.440 --> 00:33:08.440 and straightforwards. What really makes rumble wallet unique is that 694 00:33:08.519 --> 00:33:11.079 you can use it to tip your favorite creators on Rumble. 695 00:33:11.400 --> 00:33:14.079 To get started, download the Rumble Wallet app and sign 696 00:33:14.200 --> 00:33:16.519 up with your existing Rumble account click my link in 697 00:33:16.599 --> 00:33:19.839 the descriptions or search Rumble Wallet in your app store. Yeah. 698 00:33:19.920 --> 00:33:23.519 No, I mean that's a huge factor. But it's profoundly 699 00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:26.519 embarrassing to US communists who are aligned with the main 700 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:30.720 current around the world of communism. I mean, I can't 701 00:33:30.759 --> 00:33:32.720 believe we went from like I remember, like back in 702 00:33:32.799 --> 00:33:35.079 the day, there were like liberals who were like, oh, 703 00:33:35.119 --> 00:33:38.119 a real communism was never tried, And then conservatives would 704 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:42.240 be like, no, communism is what you have in China, Russia, Vietnam, whatever, 705 00:33:43.480 --> 00:33:45.880 you know, that's the real one, you know, and you 706 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:46.559 better own it. 707 00:33:47.599 --> 00:33:47.759 Now. 708 00:33:47.799 --> 00:33:50.039 I'm here trying to be like, look these people running 709 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:52.960 around saying they want to abolish families and destroy families. 710 00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.880 That's not the norm for communists in real communist countries. 711 00:33:56.960 --> 00:33:57.200 Okay. 712 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:01.000 China is a very pro family. Even the Soviet Union 713 00:34:01.200 --> 00:34:05.039 very much promoted family values, motherhood, fatherhood, all those kind 714 00:34:05.119 --> 00:34:10.519 of things. So it's it's those people who are saying that. 715 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:16.239 I think that they are just kind of liberals gone mad, 716 00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:17.880 liberals gone extreme, you. 717 00:34:17.920 --> 00:34:19.960 Know, and trying to make excuses. They maybe they see 718 00:34:19.960 --> 00:34:21.760 a lot of black people without fathers, like oh, it's 719 00:34:21.800 --> 00:34:23.800 a good thing. It's like, no, it's not a good thing, 720 00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:24.599 not having a father. 721 00:34:24.840 --> 00:34:26.400 I think what it is is people who have just 722 00:34:26.480 --> 00:34:28.960 failed to become socialized in a normal way. They just 723 00:34:29.039 --> 00:34:32.440 adopted antisocial tendencies. Because you think about it, what kind 724 00:34:32.480 --> 00:34:34.960 of person wants to break up and destroy families? Just 725 00:34:35.039 --> 00:34:38.960 a profoundly destructive sick Yeah, these people are sick in 726 00:34:39.000 --> 00:34:43.679 the head basically, and they have nothing to do with communists. 727 00:34:44.000 --> 00:34:45.320 With you too much, I need to get something to 728 00:34:45.360 --> 00:34:50.199 debate you. When Vietnam imposted about people all in the 729 00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:53.639 comments are saying that they're capitalists, not communists. Technically, I 730 00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:55.800 know for sure they're communists. They say they're communists. What 731 00:34:56.079 --> 00:34:57.000 are your thoughts on that? 732 00:34:57.480 --> 00:34:59.960 No, they are communists. I mean people are confused about 733 00:35:00.079 --> 00:35:04.199 what communism is. So communism is first of all a 734 00:35:04.280 --> 00:35:09.880 guiding principle. It's not necessarily a specific form of how 735 00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:15.840 society is organized in the sense of like it looks 736 00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:19.599 a certain way. Specifically, it's more like it's run in 737 00:35:19.639 --> 00:35:20.280 a certain way. 738 00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:20.679 Right. 739 00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.320 So Vietnam and China exist in the same world that 740 00:35:24.400 --> 00:35:27.639 we do, right, It's not like you can so in 741 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.440 the theory of Marxism, there's different modes of production, there's 742 00:35:30.480 --> 00:35:33.199 different economic systems that are determined by history. 743 00:35:33.400 --> 00:35:33.559 Right. 744 00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.519 So you know in the past there was a slave 745 00:35:36.679 --> 00:35:39.800 society in ancient Greece at Rome, you had feudalism, then 746 00:35:39.840 --> 00:35:42.679 you have capitalism, and then after it's supposed to come socialism. 747 00:35:42.800 --> 00:35:42.920 Right. 748 00:35:43.519 --> 00:35:47.400 A communist state is not one that has necessarily created 749 00:35:47.440 --> 00:35:50.159 a mode of production that is totally separate from the 750 00:35:50.239 --> 00:35:52.199 rest of the world and is isolated from the rest 751 00:35:52.239 --> 00:35:55.840 of the world. It's just one that runs the society 752 00:35:55.920 --> 00:35:59.119 that it's in charge of and puts in command a 753 00:35:59.239 --> 00:36:02.559 different guiding economic principle. So if you look at Vietnam, 754 00:36:02.840 --> 00:36:06.760 Vietnam has money, Vietnam has markets, they have exchange, they 755 00:36:06.840 --> 00:36:10.400 have very low tax rates, they have businesses and entrepreneurship. 756 00:36:09.840 --> 00:36:12.119 Fast after their tax rates, and they're like, oh about 757 00:36:12.159 --> 00:36:14.599 twenty dollars a month. Yeah, yeah, not hi Ei, They're 758 00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.079 like no, not at all, and like you get all 759 00:36:16.159 --> 00:36:18.159 this stuff for free. Yeah, it's great, It's. 760 00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:20.280 Just like China, right, Yeah, But believe that the way 761 00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:24.000 the communists respond to the contradictions that typically will arise 762 00:36:24.039 --> 00:36:26.639 in a capitalist country. So, for example, the rise of 763 00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.760 potentially corrupt uh you know, the corrupt first of all, 764 00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:33.119 the corruption of the state, corruption of the political rule, right, 765 00:36:33.559 --> 00:36:36.480 China proved well, when you have communists in charge, you 766 00:36:36.559 --> 00:36:39.119 can respond to that a lot more effectively. Jijiinpin comes 767 00:36:39.159 --> 00:36:41.960 to power, purges all the corrupt officials, and to this 768 00:36:42.079 --> 00:36:44.519 day they're sending sentencing billionaires to death all the time. 769 00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:45.119 Yeah. 770 00:36:45.199 --> 00:36:48.119 Yeah, So that first of all, that's another that's a 771 00:36:48.239 --> 00:36:51.320 great example of what communist leadership looks like. The second 772 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.199 example is when our country enters into a kind of 773 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.159 economic crisis and does need intervention by the state to 774 00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:59.400 be billed out, how is that going to be handled? 775 00:36:59.440 --> 00:37:00.719 Is it going to be like in two thousand and 776 00:37:00.760 --> 00:37:03.559 eight with Obama or is it going to be entirely different? 777 00:37:03.599 --> 00:37:06.199 And again we see in Vietnam and China other communist 778 00:37:06.239 --> 00:37:10.000 countries they respond to their economic problems a lot differently. Thirdly, 779 00:37:10.079 --> 00:37:15.639 you have, for example, what is the mode of development, right, 780 00:37:16.239 --> 00:37:18.159 which is like okay, at the end of the day, 781 00:37:18.239 --> 00:37:21.880 there's going to be things that are common in society 782 00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:25.199 like infrastructure, land, water, energy, and so on and so 783 00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:28.199 on natural resources which ultimately are not going to be 784 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:32.840 determined by market forces, right, So who should have power 785 00:37:32.960 --> 00:37:35.920 over that and what relation to society should that be? Yeah, 786 00:37:36.000 --> 00:37:39.239 in those countries, the state has full control over those things. 787 00:37:39.440 --> 00:37:39.559 Right. 788 00:37:40.000 --> 00:37:43.000 So in this way they prevent the emergence of Rockefellers 789 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:46.119 and Morgans and other kind of monopolies. And they use 790 00:37:46.199 --> 00:37:48.599 that power and leverage they have over the main means 791 00:37:48.639 --> 00:37:52.480 of production of society to ensure a smooth development and 792 00:37:52.679 --> 00:37:55.320 well being and prosperity for the rest of society. In 793 00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.400 those countries, they're not trying to force, you know, people 794 00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:03.000 to live a radically different lifestyle than what is normal 795 00:38:03.360 --> 00:38:06.599 in a country like you know in America. Right, people 796 00:38:06.840 --> 00:38:10.079 are still living in a normal modern society. But they 797 00:38:10.239 --> 00:38:14.280 have this powerful guiding economic principle that's ensuring that the 798 00:38:14.400 --> 00:38:18.159 capitalistic principle never comes into command, and that The theory 799 00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.519 of the communist is they can, when the time comes, 800 00:38:20.559 --> 00:38:24.360 smoothly transition into the higher mode of production, and the 801 00:38:24.400 --> 00:38:27.360 communist motive production is thought to be or speculated to 802 00:38:27.440 --> 00:38:29.760 be you know, based more on a principle of to 803 00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:33.159 each from each according to their ability, to each according 804 00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:35.159 to their needs. So we're talking about a society of 805 00:38:35.280 --> 00:38:38.400 super abundance more or less, where we have so much 806 00:38:38.480 --> 00:38:40.519 wealth and we produce so much and so much of 807 00:38:40.559 --> 00:38:43.960 it is automated that people no longer have to worry 808 00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:48.960 about survival anymore, and people are free to cultivate their scientific, 809 00:38:49.079 --> 00:38:53.199 their artistic and that's considered like, you know, a far. 810 00:38:53.199 --> 00:38:56.039 Off the utopia dream you're going for. We are the 811 00:38:56.119 --> 00:38:58.119 richest country in the world right now. Does it feel 812 00:38:58.159 --> 00:38:58.360 like it? 813 00:38:59.119 --> 00:39:03.280 No, absolutely, it doesn't. You know, it's uh it. We 814 00:39:03.480 --> 00:39:06.079 we have the immense capacity as a country. We have 815 00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:10.360 so much natural wealth, talent, ability and uh and land. 816 00:39:11.400 --> 00:39:16.480 And there's no excuse for why life is deteriorating so 817 00:39:16.719 --> 00:39:19.599 rapidly at the rate that it is now. 818 00:39:19.920 --> 00:39:21.639 We should all be able to agree that America is 819 00:39:21.679 --> 00:39:23.440 on a decline. I think anyone can see it. With 820 00:39:23.519 --> 00:39:26.119 the drug addiction, the homelessness, the despair. 821 00:39:26.599 --> 00:39:29.039 That's that's kind of a point of emphasis I like 822 00:39:29.119 --> 00:39:31.480 to make as a communist. You know, it's not necessarily 823 00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:35.239 about what does society look like now it's what what 824 00:39:35.440 --> 00:39:38.960 is it developing toward? What principle is guiding the development? 825 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:43.519 Because China is not like some crazy country that like 826 00:39:43.679 --> 00:39:46.880 you know, organizes everyone into barracks wearing the same clothes 827 00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:50.280 and no, it's just it's a modern society like us. Yeah, 828 00:39:50.559 --> 00:39:51.960 but they're yeah, like or Vietnam. 829 00:39:52.000 --> 00:39:55.000 But I felt that blooming the pride that people living happy. 830 00:39:55.079 --> 00:39:57.559 I could fill the pride in the country. 831 00:39:57.519 --> 00:40:00.360 Because they're still here because their their future is being 832 00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:01.559 guided by a different principle. 833 00:40:01.599 --> 00:40:03.320 Yeah, and they're coming out of like poverty, don't get 834 00:40:03.360 --> 00:40:06.440 me wrong. So, but you could feel it expanding and growing. 835 00:40:06.559 --> 00:40:08.679 And to be clear, the reason why in the past 836 00:40:09.440 --> 00:40:15.599 you had communist countries look so rigid and uniform and 837 00:40:15.880 --> 00:40:18.760 you know, like in the Soviet Union Order Stalin or 838 00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:21.840 a lot of the period under MAO, where there was 839 00:40:21.960 --> 00:40:24.840 not a lot of wealth and things were pretty standardized. 840 00:40:25.800 --> 00:40:28.480 They were never coming from the same starting point as us. 841 00:40:28.760 --> 00:40:32.079 They started out with nothing, you know. So their goal 842 00:40:32.199 --> 00:40:35.480 is I'm just got completely destroyed by America, yeah, or 843 00:40:35.639 --> 00:40:38.920 China or Russia. Uh these are these are these were 844 00:40:39.039 --> 00:40:42.840 backwater agrarian countries. So their primary goal, which I think 845 00:40:42.960 --> 00:40:46.559 was intelligent actually they said, Okay, we don't care about markets, 846 00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.840 We don't care about you know, uh, emphasizing consumer goods. 847 00:40:49.920 --> 00:40:52.880 Right now, we need to build up our productive forces. 848 00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:58.199 We need massive steel industry, We need massive industrial systems around. Look, 849 00:40:58.239 --> 00:41:01.239 we need dams, we need enter g we need irrigation 850 00:41:01.400 --> 00:41:04.280 systems and so on and so on, and that has 851 00:41:04.400 --> 00:41:06.559 to be like, you know, all society needs to get 852 00:41:06.679 --> 00:41:09.920 come together, work together in these like five year plans 853 00:41:10.440 --> 00:41:14.480 and basically build out the basic foundations of a modern economy. 854 00:41:14.559 --> 00:41:16.199 Right we need to get some pride though where we 855 00:41:16.360 --> 00:41:18.360 care and we want to make where. 856 00:41:18.280 --> 00:41:20.920 We don't have to take out loans from foreign banks. 857 00:41:21.440 --> 00:41:25.119 We will use our labor to basically build up the foundation, 858 00:41:25.760 --> 00:41:28.320 and then once we do that, we can become more 859 00:41:28.360 --> 00:41:31.119 of a modern economy. In modern society. We can have 860 00:41:31.280 --> 00:41:34.519 room for markets, we can have room for consumerism and 861 00:41:34.559 --> 00:41:37.559 stuff like that. But it's you know, it's all about 862 00:41:37.599 --> 00:41:39.760 the foundation. Who controls the foundations. 863 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:42.800 Well, debt, you mentioned that that's one of the biggest 864 00:41:42.800 --> 00:41:44.880 ones right there. Debt. The world's I don't even know 865 00:41:44.960 --> 00:41:47.360 how many trillions in debt. The US is like forty 866 00:41:47.440 --> 00:41:50.480 trillion in debt. People are in debt. Most Americans are 867 00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.679 in debt with high interest. That is a big problem. 868 00:41:54.800 --> 00:41:56.840 Yeah, and and and debt. When you think about it, 869 00:41:56.920 --> 00:41:59.800 it's a form of control. Yeah, that's all. Debt becomes 870 00:41:59.840 --> 00:42:02.440 a type of control. It becomes an unaccountable point. You 871 00:42:02.480 --> 00:42:04.159 can't speak up when you're in debt. You're scared to 872 00:42:04.199 --> 00:42:06.119 lose your mortgage. Then you're scared to speak up when 873 00:42:06.119 --> 00:42:08.119 you see children getting killed in Gaza. So when people 874 00:42:08.159 --> 00:42:11.360 are fear mongering about communism and they're demonizing it, the 875 00:42:11.480 --> 00:42:15.159 question I want to ask as a communist is you know, okay, well, 876 00:42:15.840 --> 00:42:20.000 how are you free if you have no control or 877 00:42:20.159 --> 00:42:25.719 no independence whatsoever, Because you're you're basically servicing, working on 878 00:42:25.840 --> 00:42:29.599 servicing mortgages and debt for your car, for your home. 879 00:42:30.360 --> 00:42:33.599 Your job is by no means guaranteed. And it's very, 880 00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.320 very difficult to actually be truly economically independent in the 881 00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:41.400 so called capitalist country. So while they're worrying about this 882 00:42:41.480 --> 00:42:44.880 boogeyman of communism taking away all their freedom, what about 883 00:42:44.920 --> 00:42:47.480 the society we live in now, where if you do 884 00:42:47.679 --> 00:42:51.400 speak up, you're shut out of the system, you have 885 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:52.480 no access to anything. 886 00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.280 They try to get you fired if you speak about 887 00:42:54.360 --> 00:42:56.400 children being killed in Israel. Yeah. 888 00:42:56.480 --> 00:43:01.400 Absolutely, there's so many, so many aspects in which they 889 00:43:02.280 --> 00:43:05.960 you have to give away the control over your own mind. 890 00:43:05.760 --> 00:43:07.239 Because people want to be able to feed their kids. 891 00:43:07.239 --> 00:43:09.440 They're scared to lose money, they won't pay their mortgage. 892 00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:12.639 So people go, I can't I can't like your tweets 893 00:43:12.639 --> 00:43:13.760 because I can't lose my job. 894 00:43:14.000 --> 00:43:17.000 You know, there's so many people that even express private 895 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.639 sympathy to our party, but they say, I'm totally scared, yeah, 896 00:43:20.800 --> 00:43:22.400 to have anything to do with off. 897 00:43:22.400 --> 00:43:24.280 When people say that, it's like they think it's like 898 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:26.519 a good thing, like you're being a coward, Like you 899 00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:28.280 should be able to support you if you want. You know, 900 00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:30.000 you make it really, I really need to get someone debate. 901 00:43:30.000 --> 00:43:31.639 You should make it too arguments. I don't have a 902 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:33.000 lot of There is one thing I want to push 903 00:43:33.039 --> 00:43:35.920 backline a little more. Yeah, yeah, the element. Okay, you 904 00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:39.679 look at black Rock, Vanguard, the media companies, the bankers, 905 00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:44.159 lots of Jewish influence. Then you go back to Communism, 906 00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:46.440 lots of Jewish influence, and people will try to say 907 00:43:46.480 --> 00:43:49.519 they're both kind of guided by the same people. What 908 00:43:49.599 --> 00:43:50.480 are your thoughts on that. 909 00:43:51.199 --> 00:43:53.320 I say, I would I would disagree with that, you know, 910 00:43:53.440 --> 00:43:57.840 I would say that, for example, Karl Marx was obviously 911 00:43:57.920 --> 00:44:03.079 of Jewish ethnic descent, but the main founders of Communism 912 00:44:03.239 --> 00:44:06.559 or Marxism, Leninism, the rest of them were Gentiles. Right 913 00:44:06.719 --> 00:44:10.440 after Karl Marx, there were some Jews that you know, 914 00:44:10.679 --> 00:44:13.480 were pretty prominent in the movement early on, who were 915 00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:16.800 inspired by Marx, and you basically have a type of 916 00:44:16.840 --> 00:44:19.000 effect where you know, he's like a role model for 917 00:44:19.119 --> 00:44:20.880 some of these people, like, oh Marx was Jewish. That 918 00:44:20.960 --> 00:44:24.000 means I can, you know, get on it. But I 919 00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:26.840 think that the reason there was somewhat of a prominence 920 00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:30.880 of Jews in the communist movement or socialist movement early 921 00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:33.679 on was because at that time Jews had not yet 922 00:44:34.360 --> 00:44:38.679 acquired any institutional prominence at all within the higher levels 923 00:44:38.679 --> 00:44:39.280 of society. 924 00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:41.760 So you know, you had a lot of the banking 925 00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.119 back then still like in Europe and stuff. 926 00:44:44.440 --> 00:44:48.599 You had the Rothschilds and some promident sound small group, right, 927 00:44:49.239 --> 00:44:50.960 but it wasn't like today, we're like, you know, you 928 00:44:51.079 --> 00:44:54.639 go to doctors, you go to most of the institutions 929 00:44:54.639 --> 00:44:59.960 within our society, the managerial institutions, academia, universities, and geo 930 00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.559 you know, stuff like that. You tend to have a 931 00:45:02.639 --> 00:45:07.800 pretty outsized Jewish Yeah, because they basically, you know, immigrants 932 00:45:07.800 --> 00:45:10.159 today usually when they come, what's the first thing they 933 00:45:10.199 --> 00:45:12.400 want for their kids? Get an education, become a doctor, 934 00:45:12.480 --> 00:45:13.119 become a lawyer. 935 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:14.800 They really heavily put their kids. 936 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:16.360 The Jews were the first. 937 00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:16.760 Ones to do that. 938 00:45:17.079 --> 00:45:20.119 You know, they pioneered that model basically, right. But anyway, 939 00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:31.880 in the beginning, the career driven orientation was uh like there, 940 00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:34.280 but they had not yet gotten power in any kind 941 00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.239 of way. Right, So there were Jews who were sympathetic 942 00:45:37.639 --> 00:45:40.159 to the kind of revolutionary movement because they had nothing, 943 00:45:40.519 --> 00:45:42.960 They had no status in society, they had no prominence, 944 00:45:43.559 --> 00:45:44.559 and they kind of wanted to. 945 00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:46.679 So there wasn't a lot of InChI Jews back then. 946 00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.440 It was some small families that had small families, right, right, 947 00:45:49.639 --> 00:45:50.159 men's power. 948 00:45:50.880 --> 00:45:52.880 He also had a lot of Jews who were workers 949 00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:56.000 working in factories in Eastern Europe and so on and 950 00:45:56.079 --> 00:45:58.320 so on, and they were part of the labor move 951 00:45:58.360 --> 00:46:00.320 But anyway, what the reason why they're there was a 952 00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:05.079 shift from early prominence to barely any Jews really anymore. 953 00:46:05.239 --> 00:46:09.039 Right in the radical communist movement is because when it 954 00:46:09.119 --> 00:46:12.840 ended up happening is that once they had become more 955 00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:17.119 middle class and acquired like a status within society, academia, 956 00:46:17.320 --> 00:46:21.280 you know, media institutions and whatnot, they saw no use 957 00:46:21.360 --> 00:46:23.119 for revolutionary politics. 958 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:23.320 Man. 959 00:46:24.159 --> 00:46:26.880 Instead, well, yeah, they became more aligned with the system. 960 00:46:26.960 --> 00:46:30.400 They became more aligned with liberalism and democracy and so 961 00:46:30.480 --> 00:46:33.519 on and so on, and that was. 962 00:46:35.280 --> 00:46:36.480 That there was. 963 00:46:36.880 --> 00:46:39.400 So Lenin didn't say that they were all Jews, because 964 00:46:39.440 --> 00:46:42.119 they weren't all Jews. You know, this was the opportunistic current. 965 00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.920 But Lenin identified this tendency when you know, when World 966 00:46:45.960 --> 00:46:51.920 War One happened, all the socialist parties sold out. They 967 00:46:52.000 --> 00:46:55.480 stopped being revolutionary, they stopped being about, you know, let's 968 00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:58.360 challenge the capitalist class. They started saying, let's align ourselves 969 00:46:58.400 --> 00:47:01.800 with the system, go to parliament, be more like AOC 970 00:47:02.000 --> 00:47:03.519 and zoron mom Donald for example. 971 00:47:03.599 --> 00:47:03.679 Right. 972 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.639 Yeah, but absolutely not, because they're they're part of the system, 973 00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.119 you know. Right. So Lenin was saying, well, these people 974 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:14.880 have sold out, you know, once they got a piece 975 00:47:14.920 --> 00:47:17.119 of a pie, once they were bribed out by the 976 00:47:17.199 --> 00:47:21.719 capitalist class, they abandoned all their principles and they totally 977 00:47:21.800 --> 00:47:27.039 betrayed you know, politician Marxism. Yeah, exactly right. So I'm 978 00:47:27.079 --> 00:47:29.360 not denying there was originally a prominence. 979 00:47:29.679 --> 00:47:31.519 It was definitely some early on. I think they were 980 00:47:31.599 --> 00:47:33.800 purge later on by Stalin's kind of how it seems 981 00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:35.559 to me. Again, I haven't done deep reasons. 982 00:47:35.400 --> 00:47:38.239 Well, because there was Zionist infiltration as well. That's another thing. 983 00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.000 Was there was that I think it was Churchill said 984 00:47:41.000 --> 00:47:42.440 the battle of the soul of the Jewish people of 985 00:47:42.519 --> 00:47:43.880 Zionism versus Communists. 986 00:47:43.880 --> 00:47:48.400 But Zionism was the movement that was funded by the 987 00:47:48.599 --> 00:47:52.239 world's major capitalists. It was heavily pushed. Yeah, and it 988 00:47:52.400 --> 00:47:55.760 was like it had such an advantage over Communists when 989 00:47:55.800 --> 00:47:56.599 it comes to recruiting. 990 00:47:56.679 --> 00:47:58.880 That's what the bankers were really trying to push. I 991 00:47:58.960 --> 00:48:01.480 had a guest the other day who was talking about 992 00:48:01.719 --> 00:48:04.679 Again I haven't resourced myself, but this guy's highly intelligent 993 00:48:04.719 --> 00:48:06.719 and everything I've always checked has always been on talking 994 00:48:06.719 --> 00:48:10.960 about Javad Lubovic before Theodore Herzel were putting the grounds. 995 00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.599 For this in for those Zionis like Palestine. Yeah, I 996 00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.840 mean it wouldn't surprise me. But anyway, that was an 997 00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:20.760 extremely aggressive international movement, Zionism, right, And so what happened 998 00:48:20.760 --> 00:48:23.800 in Russia is that when the Bolsheviks took charge, there 999 00:48:23.840 --> 00:48:28.239 were some Zionists that infiltrated the Bolshevik movement who were 1000 00:48:28.320 --> 00:48:31.559 hanger ons, sorry, like at the tail end. They weren't 1001 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:32.679 the ogs in the beginning. 1002 00:48:32.840 --> 00:48:36.440 So there's definitely some revolutions. See lots of those who 1003 00:48:36.519 --> 00:48:37.639 came in trying to hang on. 1004 00:48:37.800 --> 00:48:42.400 Interesting, absolutely, yeah, and they infiltrated government because they had skills, 1005 00:48:42.480 --> 00:48:46.440 they had managerial experience, they had education, which was very important. 1006 00:48:47.039 --> 00:48:49.280 Most people were illiterate at the time. They were peasants 1007 00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.079 and they were working for foreign powers. 1008 00:48:52.599 --> 00:48:52.760 You know. 1009 00:48:52.840 --> 00:48:55.159 One of these people I think was Leon Trotsky. You 1010 00:48:55.239 --> 00:48:58.519 know Leon Trotsky. Interestingly, he was in America for a 1011 00:48:58.599 --> 00:49:01.000 long time. Yeah, and then he went to Canada, right, 1012 00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:03.199 He's one of the guys I was thinking of, Yeah, Canada. 1013 00:49:03.480 --> 00:49:07.199 He was imprisoned by the British and Halifax in Canada. 1014 00:49:07.559 --> 00:49:12.599 Now mysteriously, before the revolution, he was released from prison 1015 00:49:12.760 --> 00:49:16.800 by the British. Okay, and when Lenin took power, he 1016 00:49:16.920 --> 00:49:19.679 promised something to the besies, peace land and bread. Russia 1017 00:49:19.760 --> 00:49:21.400 was in the middle of a war with Germany at 1018 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:23.719 that time. Lenin said, we need to end this war. 1019 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:24.239 Right. 1020 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.360 Now, the British were also at war with Germany. The 1021 00:49:27.480 --> 00:49:30.239 British did not want the Russians to make peace with 1022 00:49:30.480 --> 00:49:32.519 Germany and then the war pull out of the war, right, 1023 00:49:33.480 --> 00:49:36.159 so they sent people like Trotsky and others to keep 1024 00:49:36.239 --> 00:49:38.960 pushing aggressively for Russia's continued involvement in the. 1025 00:49:38.960 --> 00:49:41.000 War because they wanted Russia and Germany fighting. 1026 00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.599 Yeah, they wanted them to fight. So Trotsky was one 1027 00:49:44.639 --> 00:49:47.679 of these people strongly advocating for a continuation of the war. 1028 00:49:48.360 --> 00:49:51.360 And it's probably because he was assigned. 1029 00:49:51.039 --> 00:49:53.559 That Stalin didn't want the war that, no, he didn't. 1030 00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.239 No, Stalin said, let's stop getting involved in their countries, 1031 00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.719 focus on Russia, focus on the Soviet Union they called it, 1032 00:49:59.800 --> 00:50:02.800 so in one country, right, So you know why that 1033 00:50:02.880 --> 00:50:04.800 divide was, I don't want boor people. But it's like 1034 00:50:04.840 --> 00:50:09.639 the Bolsheviks in the beginning, these were people. The main 1035 00:50:09.679 --> 00:50:12.400 difference between them and Mensheviks and other kind of socialists. 1036 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:16.400 And the reason, you know, they were more nationally oriented 1037 00:50:16.639 --> 00:50:20.199 the Bolsheviks was because the majority of them had spent 1038 00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:23.719 time in exile in Siberia. So these guys were like 1039 00:50:23.920 --> 00:50:26.280 rooted in the in the country. You know, rooted in 1040 00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:29.360 the soil. They would they had such a close level 1041 00:50:29.400 --> 00:50:33.800 of contact with like very assault of the earth peasants 1042 00:50:33.880 --> 00:50:36.360 living in Siberia, living in villages and so on and 1043 00:50:36.440 --> 00:50:39.360 so on. They had become acclimated to an environment where 1044 00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:41.320 they were like in the deep roots of the nation. 1045 00:50:41.639 --> 00:50:41.760 Right. 1046 00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.199 Meanwhile, a lot of the Mensheviks and Trotsky and those types, 1047 00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.559 they were globe trotting. They were in Europe, they were 1048 00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:52.519 in cafes, they were in Vienna. Stalin, Felix Zerzhinski, even Lenin, 1049 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:56.519 they spent time in Siberia in camps. Okay, beginning beaten 1050 00:50:56.559 --> 00:51:00.599 by guards. Stalin was a oh yes he was. 1051 00:51:00.679 --> 00:51:03.079 I honestly don't know the history that well. He was. 1052 00:51:03.280 --> 00:51:05.039 He was put in the camp. And then he also 1053 00:51:05.920 --> 00:51:08.760 the original money that the Bolsheviks got that allowed them 1054 00:51:08.800 --> 00:51:12.639 to be funded was because Stalin led a bank robbery 1055 00:51:13.280 --> 00:51:16.559 in uh, Georgia, right, So he had like a group 1056 00:51:16.679 --> 00:51:19.519 of Georgians. So they're like kind of like Chechens, you know, 1057 00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:20.920 they're like mountain people. 1058 00:51:20.960 --> 00:51:25.039 I don't have the best from the same areag hit 1059 00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:26.679 me up, like, why do you hate us? We're not 1060 00:51:26.760 --> 00:51:28.039 all like that. I'm like, okay, you know what I'll 1061 00:51:28.039 --> 00:51:29.840 stop saying bad about chest game. Maybe just because I 1062 00:51:29.960 --> 00:51:31.039 one experience with you guys. 1063 00:51:31.639 --> 00:51:35.280 But anyway, Stalin was roaming the mountains of Georgia right 1064 00:51:35.400 --> 00:51:38.360 at a young age, and him and his group, you know, 1065 00:51:38.440 --> 00:51:40.639 his Georgians, they were like robbing banks and they were 1066 00:51:40.679 --> 00:51:47.400 really getting money in very tough, really tough people, just 1067 00:51:47.440 --> 00:51:50.000 like you think of Stalin's perspective, He's like, Okay, I've 1068 00:51:50.079 --> 00:51:53.039 been here. I haven't been in Vienna, i haven't been 1069 00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:55.760 to Europe. I mean like, I'm here, I'm rooted here, right, 1070 00:51:56.199 --> 00:51:58.039 this is the people I know. This is the land 1071 00:51:58.079 --> 00:51:58.400 that I know. 1072 00:51:58.679 --> 00:51:58.840 Right. 1073 00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:01.840 And then meanwhile you have people like Trotsky and others 1074 00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:06.519 who they distasted the regular ordinary people that lived. It 1075 00:52:06.800 --> 00:52:09.920 was a split there, absolutely a little bit. And again, 1076 00:52:10.000 --> 00:52:11.360 I want to bring someone to debate you. I'm not 1077 00:52:11.360 --> 00:52:13.000 here to push back because I know he's one of 1078 00:52:13.039 --> 00:52:15.159 the most hated men ever, but I just haven't done 1079 00:52:15.199 --> 00:52:15.679 the history. 1080 00:52:16.199 --> 00:52:18.400 So I'm gonna let you talk. But people hit me 1081 00:52:18.480 --> 00:52:19.920 up DM me if I want someone to come and 1082 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:22.039 debate you on this stuff. But I'm gonna let you 1083 00:52:22.119 --> 00:52:24.760 give your perspective on Hostalin because I was always taught 1084 00:52:24.800 --> 00:52:26.559 basically him and Hitler are the most evil men ever 1085 00:52:27.920 --> 00:52:31.679 I've research on, and well, yeah, I'm more complicated than that. 1086 00:52:31.800 --> 00:52:32.440 So it's funny. 1087 00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.400 It's funny because for a long time during World War 1088 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:41.800 Two in America, we called Stalin Uncle Joe. Right, he 1089 00:52:41.920 --> 00:52:45.440 wasn't demonized uncle. Yeah, we had Uncle Joe though. So 1090 00:52:46.000 --> 00:52:48.800 Stalin was a you know, decent They were pretty honest 1091 00:52:48.800 --> 00:52:51.119 about him. And then when that came to an end, 1092 00:52:52.320 --> 00:52:56.000 a few things happened that were responsible for shifting uh 1093 00:52:56.280 --> 00:52:59.119 saying that Stalin is just like Hitler or something like that. Right, 1094 00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:01.719 First of all, the Soviet Union would not sign on 1095 00:53:01.800 --> 00:53:03.960 board with Breton Woods. If you know what Bretton Woods is, 1096 00:53:04.079 --> 00:53:07.159 it was the Yeah, it was the original like dollar 1097 00:53:07.239 --> 00:53:10.719 hegemony system that was proposed, where you know, we would 1098 00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:14.519 have this kind of global financial control system with the 1099 00:53:14.639 --> 00:53:17.159 US dollar at the center that would determine how nations 1100 00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.519 become about the IMF. That's when it was created, right, 1101 00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:23.119 Soviet Union said no, we're not going to join this 1102 00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:25.079 in the post war period, well I agree with him 1103 00:53:25.079 --> 00:53:27.800 on that. Yeah, they were offered it and then they 1104 00:53:27.840 --> 00:53:31.280 said no. Right, So then Stalin kind of became an enemy. 1105 00:53:31.320 --> 00:53:34.159 He became a rogue state when we were allies before 1106 00:53:34.280 --> 00:53:37.000 during World War Two, they were like, Okay, this guy's 1107 00:53:37.719 --> 00:53:41.320 we have to start demonizing him and attacking him and stuff. Stalin. Also, 1108 00:53:41.519 --> 00:53:44.199 Stalin didn't believe the world should be governed, you know, 1109 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:47.079 based on this kind of Rockefeller vision of a world. 1110 00:53:48.639 --> 00:53:50.119 Yeah, shouldn't be telling us what to do. 1111 00:53:50.360 --> 00:53:53.199 Yeah, he believed. He did believe, more or less, with 1112 00:53:53.360 --> 00:53:57.519 varying degrees of consistency, that nations should be sovereign, they 1113 00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:00.519 should have a guiding principle of self determination, and that 1114 00:54:00.840 --> 00:54:04.480 nations are different and that's that doesn't mean nations shouldn't 1115 00:54:04.480 --> 00:54:07.320 coexist and be friendly with each other, but that you know, 1116 00:54:07.440 --> 00:54:09.960 this idea that we need to standardize everybody under this. 1117 00:54:10.119 --> 00:54:12.559 Yeah, yeah, I think this is actually really important. I 1118 00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:15.639 think different types of systems can work in different governments 1119 00:54:15.719 --> 00:54:17.920 in different times. We're not all the same, right, so 1120 00:54:18.199 --> 00:54:20.760 this might work here, this might work there exactly. That's 1121 00:54:20.760 --> 00:54:22.559 why you be open minded to look at things. You 1122 00:54:22.599 --> 00:54:24.800 can't just copy an exact system and put it in 1123 00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:26.519 different countries, different time periods. 1124 00:54:26.639 --> 00:54:29.519 So yeah, So there's a number of factors that led 1125 00:54:29.599 --> 00:54:31.639 us to start saying, Okay, you know what Stalin is 1126 00:54:31.719 --> 00:54:35.239 this horrible dictator. He killed you know, tens of millions 1127 00:54:35.280 --> 00:54:37.719 of people, hundreds of millions of people, even depending on 1128 00:54:38.559 --> 00:54:42.760 who's saying this stuff, and that Stalin is this rare, evil, 1129 00:54:42.840 --> 00:54:45.239 wicked man who just had all this hatred in his heart, 1130 00:54:46.000 --> 00:54:49.159 and you know, we now associate him with like one 1131 00:54:49.199 --> 00:54:53.760 of the most biggest mass murderer in history, right, And 1132 00:54:54.360 --> 00:54:59.039 you know it's just I mean, it's like today, what 1133 00:54:59.440 --> 00:55:02.559 they're trying to tell us about the Ayah Toola is 1134 00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:03.039 what they. 1135 00:55:04.719 --> 00:55:07.079 So I've watched him do this. It's okay, it's the 1136 00:55:07.159 --> 00:55:09.719 same true, but I'm saying we've seen them do this, 1137 00:55:09.840 --> 00:55:10.000 so I. 1138 00:55:12.079 --> 00:55:15.239 It's the same structure. Another thing is that Stalin in 1139 00:55:15.320 --> 00:55:19.480 his later years started realizing the level of Zionist infiltration 1140 00:55:19.920 --> 00:55:22.559 really in the Soul Union in the Eastern Bloc, and 1141 00:55:22.679 --> 00:55:24.920 he was embarking on a purge of all the Zionis, 1142 00:55:25.119 --> 00:55:29.760 you know, yes, he did. Yeah, in Czechoslovakia. He found 1143 00:55:29.800 --> 00:55:32.599 out that they were trying to help and support Israel 1144 00:55:32.719 --> 00:55:35.920 Zionis who infiltrated and he found out about it, and 1145 00:55:35.960 --> 00:55:37.920 they had a trial and they shot the people that 1146 00:55:37.960 --> 00:55:39.199 were guilty and responsible. 1147 00:55:40.679 --> 00:55:42.599 Yes, so people think that's who killed him. 1148 00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:46.480 I've heard that theory before, and it's it's very mysterious. 1149 00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:48.360 The circumstances of his death. 1150 00:55:48.719 --> 00:55:52.920 Says he's a Jew. I like, I say, you know, 1151 00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:55.039 I'm just like, I don't really think so. I don't 1152 00:55:55.079 --> 00:55:57.039 see anything showing that. I think. 1153 00:55:57.199 --> 00:56:03.480 Look, Stalin, uh is someone who people demonize him because 1154 00:56:03.719 --> 00:56:08.119 they see the excesses of the Bolshevik revolution, right, But 1155 00:56:08.239 --> 00:56:11.599 what people don't understand is that Stalin was a moral 1156 00:56:11.760 --> 00:56:14.880 and moderating influence when it comes to some of the 1157 00:56:15.000 --> 00:56:20.039 more fanatical and extreme tendencies that come with any revolution. 1158 00:56:20.199 --> 00:56:22.880 By the way, right, Yeah, revolutions are very serious. Yes, 1159 00:56:22.920 --> 00:56:26.559 the revolution people better be ready to fill the power vacuum, 1160 00:56:26.679 --> 00:56:27.199 have a plan. 1161 00:56:27.599 --> 00:56:31.599 But Stalin always was someone at the top who was 1162 00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.280 struggling in dealing with this bureaucracy. He did not have 1163 00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:38.199 full control over on behalf of all the people at 1164 00:56:38.239 --> 00:56:41.039 the bottom. And that's why the cult of personality of 1165 00:56:41.079 --> 00:56:43.280 Stalin on you know that term cult of personality where 1166 00:56:43.280 --> 00:56:46.679 he's like being glorified his faces everywhere, right now, Yeah, 1167 00:56:46.760 --> 00:56:49.800 but that actually was organic in Russia in the sense 1168 00:56:49.840 --> 00:56:54.320 that ordinary people peasants loved him. They loved him because 1169 00:56:54.360 --> 00:56:56.519 anytime there was a corrupt bastard that they had to 1170 00:56:56.599 --> 00:56:58.800 deal with. They can say, no, I'm going to invoke 1171 00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:02.719 Stalin's authority, you know, I'm going to invoke See people say, well, 1172 00:57:02.760 --> 00:57:06.639 communism is corruption is possible, because when you have such 1173 00:57:06.679 --> 00:57:10.159 a centralizing authority, then couldn't it corrupt? And it's like, well, 1174 00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.480 don't we believe in the authority of the good. Don't 1175 00:57:13.519 --> 00:57:16.880 we believe in the authority of righteousness over wrongdoing and 1176 00:57:17.039 --> 00:57:20.800 good versus evil, and the ability to channel that authority 1177 00:57:20.920 --> 00:57:24.480 and invoke that authority just like to an extent, you 1178 00:57:24.599 --> 00:57:27.519 invoke the authority of morality and the good when you're 1179 00:57:27.599 --> 00:57:28.480 challenging the zonus. 1180 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:31.039 They're saying, I can see it's evil, so I feel 1181 00:57:31.039 --> 00:57:32.079 an obligation to call it out. 1182 00:57:32.159 --> 00:57:36.280 Absolutely right, And if we do believe in the good 1183 00:57:36.480 --> 00:57:38.840 versus evil, if we do have a sense of justice, 1184 00:57:39.599 --> 00:57:42.800 then shouldn't we want a muscle behind that. Shouldn't we 1185 00:57:42.840 --> 00:57:46.000 want the ability to actually like enforce the justice and 1186 00:57:46.079 --> 00:57:49.079 say and it's like that can always be corrupted. I 1187 00:57:49.239 --> 00:57:51.639 believe in free will. I believe no system can be 1188 00:57:51.719 --> 00:57:52.199 fully that. 1189 00:57:52.239 --> 00:57:54.599 This is a problem. But I think it is true 1190 00:57:54.719 --> 00:57:56.800 that if you have a government with power like this, 1191 00:57:57.000 --> 00:57:59.719 those can be the best governments if they're not evil. 1192 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:01.320 If there needs to be some kind of checking this. 1193 00:58:01.440 --> 00:58:02.639 But I've been to a lot of countries that have 1194 00:58:02.719 --> 00:58:05.000 like dictators and stuff, and sometimes it run really good. 1195 00:58:06.039 --> 00:58:07.280 Who determines good or evil? 1196 00:58:07.320 --> 00:58:07.840 That's on us. 1197 00:58:08.119 --> 00:58:09.760 Yeah, you know, God made us with free will. It's 1198 00:58:09.760 --> 00:58:11.000 crazy the communists is saying that. 1199 00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:12.280 I know, but I believe it. 1200 00:58:12.320 --> 00:58:15.559 I don't believe there's any system that's gonna that's going 1201 00:58:15.639 --> 00:58:17.880 to eliminate free will. There's no system that's going to go. 1202 00:58:18.239 --> 00:58:19.440 To any system. 1203 00:58:19.760 --> 00:58:24.280 Potentially, yeah, potentially, But as long as there's people around 1204 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.360 who have the courage to stand up for what's good 1205 00:58:27.239 --> 00:58:30.239 and what's just, you know you're gonna have a check 1206 00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:33.199 on that. For example, in China, China was deeply corrupt 1207 00:58:33.199 --> 00:58:36.880 before Jesping, to be clear, Oh yeah, very deeply corrupt. 1208 00:58:37.159 --> 00:58:38.360 They had unleashed they. 1209 00:58:39.760 --> 00:58:42.039 Jesion Ping. Yeah, because of what he did. So before 1210 00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.679 Jesen Ping, because of the reforms that allowed market reforms 1211 00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:48.400 and more consumerism and and alignment with the world market. 1212 00:58:48.440 --> 00:58:51.119 The reform and opening up UH, a lot of the 1213 00:58:51.199 --> 00:58:54.840 Communist party leadership started getting bribed, They started becoming corrupt, 1214 00:58:54.880 --> 00:58:58.360 they started embezzling. They were driving around with lambeaus and whatever, 1215 00:58:59.559 --> 00:59:02.760 and that was an example of free will being exercise 1216 00:59:02.800 --> 00:59:06.480 in a way that was negative. But Jijinping, who lived 1217 00:59:07.159 --> 00:59:10.880 for decades among common rule people, farmers and ordinary people 1218 00:59:10.920 --> 00:59:14.599 in villages, was a very principled, incorruptible man. He had 1219 00:59:14.719 --> 00:59:18.639 very strong moral center, right, and Jijinping climbed through the 1220 00:59:18.760 --> 00:59:22.559 ranks based on his good governance and leadership. Because for all, 1221 00:59:22.840 --> 00:59:27.599 for how corrupt China was institutionally, the possibility of somebody 1222 00:59:27.679 --> 00:59:31.480 who is good rising to the top was possible, right, 1223 00:59:31.920 --> 00:59:34.199 And Jiji Ping got his way to the top, and 1224 00:59:34.320 --> 00:59:37.159 then he bet He embarked on an anti corruption campaign 1225 00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:40.840 and purged China of the corruption. So the battle against 1226 00:59:40.880 --> 00:59:45.679 corruption and evil and wrongdoing, maybe it'll never come to 1227 00:59:45.760 --> 00:59:48.079 an end as long as you know human beings exist. 1228 00:59:48.320 --> 00:59:50.159 You don't have the belief of, oh, humans are going 1229 00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:52.360 to be good. You're you're realistic with it, not this 1230 00:59:52.519 --> 00:59:54.440 utopian absolutely good. 1231 00:59:54.920 --> 00:59:56.880 But just because you know we have free will, that 1232 00:59:56.920 --> 01:00:00.840 doesn't mean that's an excuse for us to in institutionalize 1233 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:02.960 evil and legalize corruption. 1234 01:00:02.760 --> 01:00:04.920 Which is what we do now America. Is just so 1235 01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:06.960 it's just the whole thing. We call it. 1236 01:00:07.000 --> 01:00:10.639 We call it lobbying. Yes, and we allow politicians to 1237 01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:12.199 get bribed by special. 1238 01:00:11.960 --> 01:00:14.840 Interest it's almost impossible. 1239 01:00:16.840 --> 01:00:20.360 We make it legal, and we institutionalize the ability of 1240 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:25.079 people to pray on the on the weak, on the defenseless, 1241 01:00:25.599 --> 01:00:29.719 mothers trying to raise their kids. Uh, you know, orphans, 1242 01:00:29.800 --> 01:00:33.079 people that have no guidance. I mean, we basically legalize 1243 01:00:33.440 --> 01:00:37.000 the ability for predators to prey on them. And we 1244 01:00:37.119 --> 01:00:40.039 say this is aligned with the law, this is right, 1245 01:00:40.119 --> 01:00:42.480 and this is okay. And it's like, well, look, I'm 1246 01:00:42.519 --> 01:00:45.039 not gonna I'm not saying a communist system is going 1247 01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:45.960 to eliminate evil. 1248 01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:47.440 There's still going to be problem. 1249 01:00:47.280 --> 01:00:51.239 For sure, for sure. But all I'm saying is, can't 1250 01:00:51.280 --> 01:00:53.920 we at least have the courage to say this is wrong? 1251 01:00:54.480 --> 01:00:56.559 Can't we at least have the courage to agree that 1252 01:00:57.360 --> 01:01:01.280 we shouldn't institutionalize our corruption. You should actively try to 1253 01:01:01.360 --> 01:01:02.000 fight against it. 1254 01:01:02.119 --> 01:01:06.280 And we should ban these corporations donating crazy money, banned lobbying. Yeah, 1255 01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.519 just common sense things, right, right. I think it's this 1256 01:01:09.559 --> 01:01:11.280 could be controversial, but I think it's possible for a 1257 01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:13.920 capitalist or a communist society to work in certain situations 1258 01:01:13.960 --> 01:01:14.800 if it's ran correctly. 1259 01:01:16.280 --> 01:01:18.920 The reason I would disagree with that is because I 1260 01:01:19.039 --> 01:01:22.599 think that when under capitalism, I think the guiding principle 1261 01:01:22.679 --> 01:01:26.039 is ultimately profit. Right, Yeah, And when the guiding principle 1262 01:01:26.079 --> 01:01:29.679 is profit, it is rational. If you end up being 1263 01:01:29.800 --> 01:01:32.960 the most successful on the market and making profit, that 1264 01:01:33.199 --> 01:01:34.920 a you want to start rigging the market, which is 1265 01:01:34.960 --> 01:01:37.119 what the Morgans, Rockefellers, Carnegie did. 1266 01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:39.440 Yeah, they're doing it at the biggest level. But Trump 1267 01:01:39.519 --> 01:01:41.400 constantly rigging it. They're betting against it. 1268 01:01:41.639 --> 01:01:44.880 And if I'm a politician, it's like, Okay, if money 1269 01:01:44.960 --> 01:01:48.239 is the commanding principle of society, why shouldn't I take 1270 01:01:48.280 --> 01:01:50.960 a bribe? And even if you make the bribe ill legal. 1271 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:55.320 As long as the power is in control of private 1272 01:01:56.000 --> 01:01:59.039 forces that just care about making money, they can change 1273 01:01:59.039 --> 01:01:59.840 the laws which. 1274 01:01:59.679 --> 01:02:01.360 They have to go to jail. And a lot of 1275 01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:05.239 these worst criminals, like there was one the largest healthcare 1276 01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:07.599 scam in history. He was one of the chosen people. 1277 01:02:08.280 --> 01:02:10.719 Billions and billions of dollars. He would always tell everyone others, 1278 01:02:10.760 --> 01:02:13.440 don't worry, I have connections, I'll never get in trouble. Finally, 1279 01:02:13.480 --> 01:02:15.440 he got convicted as soon as he went to jail, 1280 01:02:15.480 --> 01:02:18.639 Trump pardoned him. Yeah, but Biden what, I'm sure parted 1281 01:02:18.719 --> 01:02:20.760 him too. I'm for sure. I don't Suretter because he 1282 01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:23.119 always said, oh no, I could never go to jail, No, 1283 01:02:23.320 --> 01:02:23.639 for sure. 1284 01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:26.039 And you know the problem is we don't even have 1285 01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:32.119 the ability to challenge any of this because it's all apparently, 1286 01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:34.599 it's all legal, and it's all over the books, and 1287 01:02:34.719 --> 01:02:37.119 it's that's just the capital. And if you disagree, you're 1288 01:02:37.119 --> 01:02:37.719 a communist. 1289 01:02:38.400 --> 01:02:40.760 You know, fair, fair, fair point. 1290 01:02:40.920 --> 01:02:43.360 I think, honestly, Jake, I think that if you were 1291 01:02:43.440 --> 01:02:45.920 to express some of these views beyond even if you 1292 01:02:46.000 --> 01:02:48.000 had never talked to me, the views that I think 1293 01:02:48.039 --> 01:02:50.280 that you hold common sense based on having a conversation 1294 01:02:50.400 --> 01:02:52.119 with you, I think they call you a communist. 1295 01:02:52.360 --> 01:02:54.440 I could call it communist occasionally. Yeah, yeah, I think 1296 01:02:54.440 --> 01:02:56.400 a lot of your views. If to regular person you're 1297 01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:58.079 talking you called it something else, they wouldn't even think 1298 01:02:58.079 --> 01:02:59.639 it's communist though, they'd just be like, yeah, this makes 1299 01:02:59.639 --> 01:03:00.159 a lot of sense. 1300 01:03:00.119 --> 01:03:02.960 Right, But isn't that kind of scary because it shows 1301 01:03:03.000 --> 01:03:04.159 how brainwashed we become. 1302 01:03:04.400 --> 01:03:06.360 Yeah, that word just freak people out. Yeah, you tell 1303 01:03:06.400 --> 01:03:08.039 people I'm going to pick a communey up the airport. 1304 01:03:08.119 --> 01:03:11.800 They're like, whoa, yeah, yeah, No, I mean yeah because 1305 01:03:11.800 --> 01:03:14.679 they think you know communist or are now yeah yeah. 1306 01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.880 But in a way I will say something we. When 1307 01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:21.000 I say we, I mean like us communists, we do 1308 01:03:21.119 --> 01:03:23.800 kind of take pride in the scariness of the word 1309 01:03:23.880 --> 01:03:26.519 now because we're like, you know what, fuck this system. 1310 01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:29.639 This system is like fucked up, and it's ruled by 1311 01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.679 demonic pedophiles, And if this is the word that scares 1312 01:03:32.760 --> 01:03:35.400 the shit out of them, then we we embrace it 1313 01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:36.320 boldly and proudly. 1314 01:03:36.639 --> 01:03:39.320 It's hard to disagree when you have satanic pedophiles like 1315 01:03:39.480 --> 01:03:43.599 running your country, bombing kids and schools, saying this is 1316 01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.280 the most moral army. It's sick and disgusting. And we 1317 01:03:46.400 --> 01:03:48.519 need to reach across and talk to people on the 1318 01:03:48.719 --> 01:03:52.000 opposite side. And we agree with everything, but let's start 1319 01:03:52.079 --> 01:03:54.280 working to make in a better country. Can one thing 1320 01:03:54.360 --> 01:03:58.159 we absolutely getting out campaign lobbyists. 1321 01:03:58.360 --> 01:04:01.400 I say this, if if it was possible that we 1322 01:04:01.559 --> 01:04:06.079 could get rid of this regime and get rid of 1323 01:04:06.159 --> 01:04:10.920 this corruption without communism there, we would be fine with that. 1324 01:04:11.400 --> 01:04:14.280 You know, we ultimately are human beings who want what's 1325 01:04:14.320 --> 01:04:16.440 best for our country. But we happen to be of 1326 01:04:16.519 --> 01:04:19.519 the opinion, based on the theory that we study and 1327 01:04:19.599 --> 01:04:22.320 our understanding of how the world works, that when push 1328 01:04:22.400 --> 01:04:25.440 comes to shove, communism is going to be necessary. 1329 01:04:25.599 --> 01:04:26.199 We believe that. 1330 01:04:26.440 --> 01:04:29.880 But if we're wrong about that, it's not going to 1331 01:04:29.960 --> 01:04:33.239 be like, it's not going to change the fact that, 1332 01:04:33.480 --> 01:04:36.360 ultimately we recognize the people who rule us are evil. 1333 01:04:36.559 --> 01:04:38.880 Yeah, we agree in that, and maybe pieces of the 1334 01:04:38.920 --> 01:04:40.719 system could be added, maybe somewhere in the middle of 1335 01:04:40.760 --> 01:04:41.079 the truth. 1336 01:04:41.519 --> 01:04:43.880 We don't even claim to have all the answers truth. 1337 01:04:47.159 --> 01:04:50.599 We simply want to be a voice that exists that 1338 01:04:50.719 --> 01:04:54.360 the American people have the right to choose, which is okay, 1339 01:04:54.480 --> 01:04:56.920 let's start thinking about the Let's start. 1340 01:04:57.320 --> 01:04:59.559 How we could fix it, like we need across and 1341 01:04:59.599 --> 01:05:01.880 have these and I hear, oh, I like this idea. 1342 01:05:02.280 --> 01:05:04.519 Oh yeah, why should they own our oil? You know? 1343 01:05:04.679 --> 01:05:09.079 Yeah, let's you know, let's let's create a choice. Let's 1344 01:05:09.079 --> 01:05:12.719 say for the American people that if, if, and when 1345 01:05:12.960 --> 01:05:15.440 we think it's a when and maybe for others it's 1346 01:05:15.440 --> 01:05:19.880 an if, But if or when people decide and realize 1347 01:05:20.079 --> 01:05:22.480 that the system is unsalvagable and there does need to 1348 01:05:22.519 --> 01:05:25.360 be a radical solution, we want to be around for 1349 01:05:25.480 --> 01:05:26.519 people to have the option. 1350 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:28.840 Hopefully we can do it without violence with like cons 1351 01:05:28.880 --> 01:05:31.880 absolutely absolutely mean I just like, look with the Constitution, 1352 01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:34.199 that was amazing. Imagine if we could sit today and 1353 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:37.639 get great minds together to come up and work with solutions. 1354 01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:39.239 We would I mean, I speak on my behalf of 1355 01:05:39.320 --> 01:05:42.119 my party, we would be thrilled at the opportunity for 1356 01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:44.159 that kind of thing. You know, our politicians aren't going 1357 01:05:44.239 --> 01:05:46.840 to do it right right, you know, But to to 1358 01:05:47.239 --> 01:05:49.880 to explain why I think we do choose the term 1359 01:05:49.960 --> 01:05:52.480 and we identify with it, it's just like we think 1360 01:05:52.599 --> 01:05:56.800 that that conflict is going to get so extreme and 1361 01:05:56.920 --> 01:06:02.199 intense because the people who rule us really really are 1362 01:06:03.719 --> 01:06:06.920 not just evil, they're very attached and embedded. 1363 01:06:06.559 --> 01:06:06.960 To the power. 1364 01:06:07.039 --> 01:06:09.119 Yeah, they're not going to go Oh, I mean look 1365 01:06:09.360 --> 01:06:13.280 put it this way. Behind it is nuclear weapons. These 1366 01:06:13.320 --> 01:06:15.719 people have a red button to nuke the entire world 1367 01:06:16.440 --> 01:06:18.559 before they're like ready to relinquish power. That's what the 1368 01:06:18.599 --> 01:06:22.159 Cold War was about. Yeah, and it's like it is 1369 01:06:22.280 --> 01:06:23.800 going to get to a point where it's like the 1370 01:06:24.400 --> 01:06:26.400 only thing that's going to be able to challenge them, 1371 01:06:26.480 --> 01:06:31.480 in my opinion, is an extremely comprehensively revolutionary principle where 1372 01:06:31.519 --> 01:06:34.280 it's like, okay, you know what, We're not even going 1373 01:06:34.360 --> 01:06:36.440 to compromise with you. And by you I mean the 1374 01:06:36.480 --> 01:06:39.960 people in power. We understand the game, we understand how 1375 01:06:39.960 --> 01:06:43.159 it works, and it's like it's an irreconcilable battle, you know, 1376 01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:45.360 the working class versus the parasite class. 1377 01:06:45.679 --> 01:06:48.639 Yeah. And a weird thing too, they have this weird 1378 01:06:48.719 --> 01:06:52.199 attachment to Israel. The whole world's looking at it being like, 1379 01:06:52.599 --> 01:06:54.440 this is evil. Israel won't let it go. 1380 01:06:54.920 --> 01:06:57.840 Is Israel is the red line, you know, Israel's the 1381 01:06:57.880 --> 01:07:04.559 red line because Israel is this frontier for basically all 1382 01:07:04.599 --> 01:07:07.199 the things that I mentioned that were around during caral 1383 01:07:07.280 --> 01:07:11.599 Marx's time. Right, the basic inhumane way that people are 1384 01:07:11.679 --> 01:07:14.039 being ripped apart from the land that they live on, 1385 01:07:14.719 --> 01:07:18.320 right to be reforged and remodeled or discarded even right, 1386 01:07:18.800 --> 01:07:21.679 Israel's the embodiment of the ultimately the embodiment of that 1387 01:07:21.760 --> 01:07:26.480 capitalistic principle. Israel was founded upon the genocide and dispossession 1388 01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:30.599 of Palestinian people from their land. Israel continues, by the way, 1389 01:07:31.280 --> 01:07:35.519 to try to get land grabs in South Lebanon, where my. 1390 01:07:35.599 --> 01:07:37.800 Parents wiped out Apple Maps has going along with it. 1391 01:07:37.840 --> 01:07:38.679 They wiped out the village. 1392 01:07:38.920 --> 01:07:41.559 My parents grew up there and or they came here 1393 01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:43.360 when they were about like seven ten years old. But 1394 01:07:44.480 --> 01:07:48.360 you know, uh, they about one point two million people 1395 01:07:48.400 --> 01:07:51.559 have fled the South because of what they're doing, people 1396 01:07:51.599 --> 01:07:54.440 that were living there for centuries. Right, So why is 1397 01:07:54.639 --> 01:07:58.639 Israel this existential battle? Because here at home we're facing 1398 01:07:58.679 --> 01:08:02.360 an Israelification. Okay, they're evicting people out of their homes, 1399 01:08:02.400 --> 01:08:06.599 they're destroying people's ways of life. They're trying to completely 1400 01:08:07.840 --> 01:08:10.920 take away our basic means of dignity even here. And 1401 01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:14.280 this is a tendency around the entire world. Israel is 1402 01:08:14.400 --> 01:08:16.159 that tendency as a state power. 1403 01:08:16.560 --> 01:08:19.479 You know, why do you think they're Republican Party they're 1404 01:08:19.560 --> 01:08:21.680 going to burn down with Israel because everyone can see 1405 01:08:21.680 --> 01:08:24.439 its evil, but they are just so embedded, We're like, no, 1406 01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:26.439 this is our great ally to the point where it's 1407 01:08:26.479 --> 01:08:29.760 just like what the fuck is going on? Everyone's seeing 1408 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:31.920 it now, but they're not going to detach, like what 1409 01:08:32.279 --> 01:08:32.479 is that? 1410 01:08:33.359 --> 01:08:38.119 Well, look, the Republican Party is the most prosut and 1411 01:08:38.159 --> 01:08:41.840 it just Democrats Republicans, they're both prostitutes of the Zionists, 1412 01:08:42.119 --> 01:08:46.479 the capitalists, and the global elite. You know, they have 1413 01:08:46.600 --> 01:08:49.199 no independent thought, They have no independent agenda, They have 1414 01:08:49.319 --> 01:08:53.279 no independent thinking. They are paid shills and slaves to 1415 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:55.439 serve the agenda of people that we will never be 1416 01:08:55.520 --> 01:08:58.039 able to vote for on any ballot box. And those 1417 01:08:58.079 --> 01:08:59.000 people have an agenda. 1418 01:09:00.039 --> 01:09:04.000 Candidates. I've never voted in my life, you're smart. Yeah, embarrassingly, 1419 01:09:04.039 --> 01:09:06.319 I voted for Trump, well, only once, not three times, 1420 01:09:07.520 --> 01:09:09.039 which which election was the first one? 1421 01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:14.000 War I understand, I understand. That's the one where it's like, okay, 1422 01:09:14.239 --> 01:09:16.159 it's pretty clear why people were voting for. 1423 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:18.479 We're pushing all the trans gay stuff. 1424 01:09:19.159 --> 01:09:20.159 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 1425 01:09:20.800 --> 01:09:25.000 And uh, off topic, people say, well, you're Lebanese, like 1426 01:09:25.039 --> 01:09:27.359 all these boomers, they look like you're some dirty, filthy 1427 01:09:27.479 --> 01:09:29.880 sand people. You like, don't look that different, not that 1428 01:09:29.960 --> 01:09:32.439 it should make it different. You're clearly intelligent. I've been 1429 01:09:32.479 --> 01:09:36.239 around lots of Lebanese Iranians. But they pushed this like, oh, 1430 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:38.760 these are the filthy, uncultured people. It's completely false. 1431 01:09:38.880 --> 01:09:40.880 Well, I never take it personally because I know what 1432 01:09:41.039 --> 01:09:45.239 the game is. It's a cynical attempt to exploit the 1433 01:09:45.880 --> 01:09:47.800 You know, we all have a fear of the unknown. 1434 01:09:47.840 --> 01:09:50.479 That's human nature. By the way, everyone around the world 1435 01:09:50.560 --> 01:09:53.079 is the same. So a regular American doesn't know anything 1436 01:09:53.079 --> 01:09:55.039 about the Middle East and they see like, you know, 1437 01:09:55.239 --> 01:09:59.000 these these towel heads, these foreign, strange Muslim people. They're different, 1438 01:09:59.079 --> 01:10:01.479 they have this different things going on, and you know, 1439 01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:04.720 it's just kind of an unfamiliarity. There's I think in 1440 01:10:04.840 --> 01:10:08.399 my experience when Americans do meet people who come from 1441 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:10.920 the Middle East, I don't think the majority of the 1442 01:10:11.000 --> 01:10:14.720 interactions are negative. Somebody who's grown up around dearborn, I 1443 01:10:14.760 --> 01:10:17.520 think that, you know, Americans that have been here for 1444 01:10:17.640 --> 01:10:21.640 generations tend to like certain aspects of the food, the culture, 1445 01:10:21.640 --> 01:10:24.279 of the music. But in any case, I think that 1446 01:10:25.119 --> 01:10:29.800 what's happening is that Zionus are exploiting that fear of 1447 01:10:29.840 --> 01:10:33.039 the unknown in order to kind of like push this 1448 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:38.239 this like artificial xenophobia where they're trying to tell people 1449 01:10:39.000 --> 01:10:43.640 the threat aren't these Israelis and Zius, Yeah, it's it's 1450 01:10:43.680 --> 01:10:46.359 these Muslims who are so for example, they use this 1451 01:10:46.439 --> 01:10:49.239 against me, and I always laugh. By the way, people 1452 01:10:49.359 --> 01:10:51.880 may not believe this. Every single time this card gets 1453 01:10:51.920 --> 01:10:54.159 to used against me, I really like crack up. And 1454 01:10:54.239 --> 01:10:57.439 laugh really hard because what they'll I almost intentionally play. 1455 01:10:57.279 --> 01:10:59.359 With it to be completely with good self. I don't. 1456 01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:01.800 I don't adopt like a white sounding name. I could easily, 1457 01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:03.840 you know, But the reason I do is because it's 1458 01:11:03.840 --> 01:11:07.039 almost kind of like a I like the reactions sometimes 1459 01:11:07.079 --> 01:11:10.479 when people try to play the card where it's like, oh, 1460 01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:13.600 you're this like Muslim communist and they're like doing the 1461 01:11:13.640 --> 01:11:16.359 George W. Bush fears, like I'm a space alien, Like, oh, 1462 01:11:16.399 --> 01:11:20.039 you're this brown Muslim communist and you're anti white and 1463 01:11:20.119 --> 01:11:23.000 you hate white and I'm just I just kind of like, 1464 01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:25.520 it's just kind of funny. It's amusing to me because 1465 01:11:25.520 --> 01:11:29.239 it's like, I love how you're so transparently exposing what 1466 01:11:29.359 --> 01:11:29.920 a zionis. 1467 01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.399 Chill you are. Yeah, and you know it's acceptable to 1468 01:11:32.399 --> 01:11:36.199 be completely racist against Muslim like goat Foker's cowheads. 1469 01:11:36.520 --> 01:11:39.239 They're just like so like and who loses their jobs 1470 01:11:39.279 --> 01:11:40.680 over that compelling to no one? 1471 01:11:40.760 --> 01:11:42.439 You can do it openly. You're also can attack white 1472 01:11:42.439 --> 01:11:42.960 people openly. 1473 01:11:43.359 --> 01:11:45.720 Yeah, yeah, you can attack everyone except people and your. 1474 01:11:45.640 --> 01:11:47.239 People, right, those are kind of the one ones you 1475 01:11:47.279 --> 01:11:49.119 really can attack. No Asians, I guess you can't. 1476 01:11:48.960 --> 01:11:51.520 Do no, Yeah, you. Yeah, I don't know. 1477 01:11:51.560 --> 01:11:53.399 I mean I think we're the most attacks though white 1478 01:11:53.479 --> 01:11:55.800 and then Muslims. They can just literally say anything about you. 1479 01:11:55.880 --> 01:11:58.479 You guys are the most like just dehumanizing talk all 1480 01:11:58.560 --> 01:11:58.880 the time. 1481 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:03.439 Oh like what Randy find said on X and stuff. Okay, Look, 1482 01:12:03.920 --> 01:12:05.800 I never take it personally, I never try. 1483 01:12:07.000 --> 01:12:08.960 It still is there. It is a reality of what 1484 01:12:08.960 --> 01:12:09.479 they're pushing. 1485 01:12:09.479 --> 01:12:12.359 It's pretty brutal, honestly, something like even about ilhan Omer, 1486 01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:14.439 I don't really agree with her as a idiot, but 1487 01:12:14.560 --> 01:12:18.000 still the stuff they say about her is pretty pretty outrageous. 1488 01:12:18.119 --> 01:12:20.319 Criticized Jews, but they go far beyond what I do. 1489 01:12:20.479 --> 01:12:22.359 You know, That's what That's always something I always said. 1490 01:12:22.359 --> 01:12:24.880 It's like, look, people are saying there's an anti Semitism crisis. 1491 01:12:24.960 --> 01:12:27.239 I'm like, well, what if people talked about Jews the 1492 01:12:27.279 --> 01:12:28.079 same way they talk. 1493 01:12:28.000 --> 01:12:31.560 About Muslims star bomb the kids? Yeah, yeah right, it's 1494 01:12:31.640 --> 01:12:34.239 Andy was like, thanks for a picture of a dead child. 1495 01:12:34.359 --> 01:12:34.920 You are sick? 1496 01:12:35.560 --> 01:12:41.720 No, Yeah, I mean yeah, what I think is that. Look, Honestly, 1497 01:12:41.760 --> 01:12:43.439 the reason it's amusing to me those I was born 1498 01:12:43.439 --> 01:12:45.479 and razier. First time I went to Lebanon was with 1499 01:12:46.359 --> 01:12:50.880 my friend Jackson Jackson Hinkle to the funeral of Nasrolla, right, 1500 01:12:51.039 --> 01:12:53.920 which I had the great honor and opportunity to attend. 1501 01:12:54.359 --> 01:12:56.079 But before then I had never even been to the 1502 01:12:56.119 --> 01:13:00.359 Middle East. Yeah, I mean I was born in here, 1503 01:13:00.520 --> 01:13:02.159 I did. I do have immigrant parents. 1504 01:13:02.159 --> 01:13:04.520 You're not going to put Lebanon before America like so 1505 01:13:04.640 --> 01:13:06.920 many other people of another country. No. Uh. 1506 01:13:07.159 --> 01:13:10.800 And by the way, I have immense love for the 1507 01:13:10.840 --> 01:13:13.600 people of Lebanon. You know, I visited that country. I 1508 01:13:13.680 --> 01:13:16.720 had a great time, and you know, I I do 1509 01:13:17.119 --> 01:13:19.520 very It does kind of affect me seeing what's going 1510 01:13:19.560 --> 01:13:22.359 on in the south, especially because it's where my parents 1511 01:13:22.439 --> 01:13:24.960 come from and stuff. But at the end of the day, 1512 01:13:25.119 --> 01:13:26.920 it's like I don't even speak Arabic. 1513 01:13:27.520 --> 01:13:30.760 Yes, you know, so you're American first of Lebanese descent. 1514 01:13:30.960 --> 01:13:33.920 Yeah, we all have to We're not just individuals. We're 1515 01:13:33.960 --> 01:13:36.439 part of nations. But your nation first, the nation I'm 1516 01:13:36.439 --> 01:13:37.880 a part of you. You should get the out of 1517 01:13:37.880 --> 01:13:40.479 our country, right if Yeah, I mean, if if my 1518 01:13:40.680 --> 01:13:43.960 priority was focusing on Lebanon, you I'd move to Lebanon, right. 1519 01:13:44.560 --> 01:13:46.479 But uh, that doesn't mean you know I think that 1520 01:13:47.119 --> 01:13:49.479 you know, I hate Lebanon or something like that. 1521 01:13:49.600 --> 01:13:52.279 It's just I think you chefs actually respect from it, 1522 01:13:52.279 --> 01:13:53.479 because it's like, you know, if. 1523 01:13:53.359 --> 01:13:56.199 You're Italian, if you're Italian here and you have a 1524 01:13:56.319 --> 01:14:03.880 type of sentimental attachment to Italy, it makes total At 1525 01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:06.399 the end of the day, I'm American, and you know 1526 01:14:06.960 --> 01:14:08.600 this is the ship that I'm going to go down 1527 01:14:08.680 --> 01:14:09.319 with when all of a. 1528 01:14:09.279 --> 01:14:12.600 Sudden, where Jewish Americans joined the IDF than the American Army. 1529 01:14:14.039 --> 01:14:16.520 Yeah, that makes total sense. And by the way, the 1530 01:14:16.600 --> 01:14:19.239 whole thing about being a foreign agent. But I get 1531 01:14:19.319 --> 01:14:21.600 so many people that tell me I'm They tell me 1532 01:14:21.640 --> 01:14:23.800 I'm a foreign agent, right because I have because I've 1533 01:14:23.840 --> 01:14:25.720 been to Russia a few times and I talked to 1534 01:14:26.159 --> 01:14:28.880 communists in Russia and stuff, or in China. They said, well, 1535 01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:31.319 you're a foreign agent. It's like, okay, I'll I'll start 1536 01:14:31.439 --> 01:14:33.520 entertaining that when you apply the same standard to the 1537 01:14:33.720 --> 01:14:36.920 Jewish Americans who go to Israel and join the IDF 1538 01:14:37.039 --> 01:14:40.119 and join the massade and basically don't have to register. 1539 01:14:39.960 --> 01:14:41.760 Free trips too. I was even taken on the free 1540 01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:43.279 trip just being a fighter. I think they try to 1541 01:14:43.319 --> 01:14:45.560 bring anyone with any fame whatsoever and to show them 1542 01:14:45.600 --> 01:14:48.039 a good time, give them a bunch of girls a show. 1543 01:14:48.079 --> 01:14:50.119 I'm like, oh, look how great this is? But I 1544 01:14:50.159 --> 01:14:52.640 can spot bullshit. Have you seen the movie three hundred 1545 01:14:53.600 --> 01:14:54.479 a long time ago? 1546 01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:58.800 Do you remember that fucked up like that that character 1547 01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:01.039 who is like bribed, like wanted to join but he 1548 01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.199 was rejected because he was all like fucked up looking 1549 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:05.840 and then like the Persians, which is just kind of 1550 01:15:05.880 --> 01:15:08.960 like propaganda. But the bad guys in the movie came 1551 01:15:09.000 --> 01:15:10.279 and took him and they like they gave him all 1552 01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:14.039 this women and that's yeah, that's what it reminds me of. 1553 01:15:15.920 --> 01:15:17.439 The boys. 1554 01:15:17.800 --> 01:15:19.960 Oh no, man, that's Lindsey Ram for sure. 1555 01:15:20.479 --> 01:15:23.560 Yeah. I want to talk about some of the communist leaders. 1556 01:15:23.640 --> 01:15:25.479 We got a little bit into Stalin. Want to go 1557 01:15:25.479 --> 01:15:26.880 a little more to him and to talk about mouth 1558 01:15:27.680 --> 01:15:30.079 real quick. First off, how did he take power? And 1559 01:15:30.119 --> 01:15:31.319 they would like to also know what are some of 1560 01:15:31.359 --> 01:15:32.399 the thing good you think he did? 1561 01:15:33.479 --> 01:15:37.800 So the story how Stalin takes power, it's actually very 1562 01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:42.239 very extraordinary, right because people point to Hitler a lot. 1563 01:15:42.399 --> 01:15:44.479 Hitler is somebody who gave a lot of speeches. He 1564 01:15:44.600 --> 01:15:47.880 focused a lot on his image and his personality as 1565 01:15:47.920 --> 01:15:51.439 a celebrity. Stalin was actually a pretty obscure figure in 1566 01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:53.600 the Bolshevik Party and to the public. You know, he 1567 01:15:53.800 --> 01:15:57.159 was mainly the guy who is keeping account of the record, right. 1568 01:15:57.920 --> 01:15:59.760 He was like a record keeper more or less right. 1569 01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:03.239 And he was behind the scenes. He wasn't too public 1570 01:16:03.319 --> 01:16:06.359 and out there. He didn't leverage too much on his personality. 1571 01:16:07.199 --> 01:16:11.760 But what he did is insist and maintain this steady 1572 01:16:12.319 --> 01:16:15.159 and straight course that he believed was set by Lenin. 1573 01:16:15.239 --> 01:16:17.840 In the Bolshevik Party, there's a degree of stability and 1574 01:16:17.880 --> 01:16:20.880 consistency there of what is our direction, what is our path? 1575 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.039 What lines should we pursue. There's like a famous painting 1576 01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:26.000 of Stalin. He's like the captain of a ship and 1577 01:16:26.079 --> 01:16:29.359 it's like there's rough storms and it's uh, it's it's uh, 1578 01:16:29.640 --> 01:16:32.840 it's treacherous waters, and he's maintaining the helm, you know, 1579 01:16:32.960 --> 01:16:35.359 to make sure it's a steady, straight line towards the goal. 1580 01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:41.479 And when Lenin died, all these opportunists and people who 1581 01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:46.439 UH were infiltrating the Bolshevik Party to completely implement an 1582 01:16:46.439 --> 01:16:51.279 agenda that was contrary to the original spirit. Absolutely and 1583 01:16:51.560 --> 01:16:55.039 and UH and and UH basically create the conditions for 1584 01:16:55.239 --> 01:16:57.840 the capitalist world to come back to Russia carve it 1585 01:16:57.960 --> 01:17:00.560 up and steal all its resources. By the way, when 1586 01:17:00.560 --> 01:17:03.199 the Bolshok Revolution happened about I think it was seventeen 1587 01:17:03.239 --> 01:17:07.319 to nineteen World powers invaded Russia during the Russian Civil War. 1588 01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:09.800 They had to fend off through guerrilla warfare and all 1589 01:17:09.840 --> 01:17:12.720 this other kind of stuff. We invaded Russia at that time. 1590 01:17:12.880 --> 01:17:16.119 This was like before World War one or two after 1591 01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:18.039 World War one. Two. 1592 01:17:18.199 --> 01:17:21.760 Yeah, yeah, we don't know this. We invaded Russia at 1593 01:17:21.800 --> 01:17:25.079 the time. We sent troops. France did, Germany did, Japan did, 1594 01:17:25.439 --> 01:17:30.880 even Germany did. Sorry I mentioned Germany, England did, the 1595 01:17:31.159 --> 01:17:36.119 Czech Czechoslovakia and stuff. Anyway, it was chaos, right, But 1596 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:39.600 after they won the civil war, the question was, okay, well, 1597 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.239 how do we move forward? So you had people like 1598 01:17:42.319 --> 01:17:45.600 Trotsky that were advocating crazy things, you had other people 1599 01:17:45.680 --> 01:17:49.479 advocating crazy things. You had some people advocating to sell 1600 01:17:49.560 --> 01:17:53.800 out fully, and Stalin said, no, we're going to continue 1601 01:17:54.439 --> 01:17:56.840 the straight and steady path. We're going to build up 1602 01:17:56.880 --> 01:17:59.760 our nation, We're going to build up our country. And 1603 01:18:00.199 --> 01:18:03.399 you know, the argument of Trotsky and co. Was basically, 1604 01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:06.079 how are you going to build up Russia when this 1605 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:10.640 is a backwater nation when the peasants are all stupid cattle. 1606 01:18:10.880 --> 01:18:13.640 They don't they're bad people. They're you know, they're they're 1607 01:18:13.880 --> 01:18:18.119 they're backward rather than advanced and enlightened. And we have 1608 01:18:18.279 --> 01:18:20.359 no wealth, we have nothing. You know, we need to 1609 01:18:20.439 --> 01:18:23.800 focus on this. Russia was really poor before, very poor, 1610 01:18:24.000 --> 01:18:25.960 and Stalin said, no, we're going to count on what 1611 01:18:26.079 --> 01:18:29.520 we have. We're gonna hunker down and we're gonna build 1612 01:18:29.520 --> 01:18:32.079 our nation up and and that's how we're going to 1613 01:18:32.159 --> 01:18:35.359 prevent getting invaded again. And we're not going to focus 1614 01:18:35.439 --> 01:18:39.239 on trying to export our revolution to other countries, because 1615 01:18:39.399 --> 01:18:42.680 we can't lead another country's revolution. You can only lead 1616 01:18:42.720 --> 01:18:45.399 your own, right. Stalin's a guy. Keep in mind remember 1617 01:18:45.439 --> 01:18:48.880 that context I gave. He's in Siberia for years. He's 1618 01:18:49.279 --> 01:18:52.199 with the village folk, the rule for He's like deeply 1619 01:18:52.239 --> 01:18:54.920 embedded in his country, his nation. He has a profound 1620 01:18:54.960 --> 01:18:58.000 love in his heart for these ordinary people. He's thinking 1621 01:18:58.039 --> 01:19:00.720 about him every day right people out on these remote 1622 01:19:00.760 --> 01:19:04.439 villages who are dirt poor and have nothing. His focus 1623 01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:07.600 is that I want these people to have access to education, 1624 01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:11.600 to electricity, to healthcare, and I want them to be 1625 01:19:11.960 --> 01:19:14.880 elevated up with the dignity, so they can walk straight, 1626 01:19:15.000 --> 01:19:20.039 you know, as modern dignified human beings. Anyway, so the 1627 01:19:20.079 --> 01:19:23.119 Bolshevik Party starts to expand, right, starts to go out 1628 01:19:23.159 --> 01:19:26.399 and recruit in these villages and the countryside, and the 1629 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:30.159 party started getting flooded with like new people that came 1630 01:19:30.239 --> 01:19:33.239 from like ordinary Russian backgrounds. So people talk about the 1631 01:19:33.319 --> 01:19:37.399 prominence of the Jewish membership and the leadership of the government, 1632 01:19:37.439 --> 01:19:40.520 the Soviet government, well, they didn't have people in the 1633 01:19:40.600 --> 01:19:43.760 bureaucracy to recruit from in the beginning. They had to 1634 01:19:43.840 --> 01:19:47.560 pull from people that were already educated and whatever. Stalin 1635 01:19:48.159 --> 01:19:51.600 represented this tendency where they were starting to recruit from 1636 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:55.560 people that didn't have background in education, didn't have background 1637 01:19:55.640 --> 01:19:59.079 and whatever, but were capable leaders of their villages and 1638 01:19:59.159 --> 01:20:02.520 their soviets. That's what they were called, the councils. So basically, 1639 01:20:05.319 --> 01:20:09.079 people like Trotsky and other gatekeepers who represented you know, 1640 01:20:09.239 --> 01:20:13.000 an older institutional way being brought up. They were very 1641 01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:15.960 threatened by this. They were like, okay, so you're bringing 1642 01:20:16.039 --> 01:20:20.119 up all these Russian peasants and these backward people to 1643 01:20:20.920 --> 01:20:26.239 commanding heights of powers. They didn't they didn't they didn't 1644 01:20:26.239 --> 01:20:26.960 see him as equals. 1645 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:29.079 We would preach that, but they didn't actually want. 1646 01:20:28.960 --> 01:20:32.399 That, no, because they were infiltrators. They they thought that 1647 01:20:32.479 --> 01:20:34.439 if they lost control, they would. 1648 01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:35.640 No longer be one of the main ones. That just 1649 01:20:35.720 --> 01:20:36.399 felt off to me. 1650 01:20:36.840 --> 01:20:38.119 Yeah, yeah, Trotsky he was. 1651 01:20:38.279 --> 01:20:39.039 He was livid. 1652 01:20:39.119 --> 01:20:42.439 Trotsky was so angry and he would rage and scream 1653 01:20:42.600 --> 01:20:46.199 and throw a tantrum. And then Stalin said, look, we 1654 01:20:46.319 --> 01:20:49.039 are going to build socialism in this nation. We're going 1655 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:52.119 to take what little we have and turn it into something. 1656 01:20:52.800 --> 01:20:54.960 And if you're not on board with this, you need 1657 01:20:55.000 --> 01:20:58.199 to fuck off and leave right And instead of fucking 1658 01:20:58.239 --> 01:21:01.880 off and leaving Trotsky and his co conspirators, what they 1659 01:21:01.960 --> 01:21:06.239 started doing was sabotage. You know, they'd be building railways, 1660 01:21:06.600 --> 01:21:08.640 they'd be they'd be trying to build and they'd go 1661 01:21:08.760 --> 01:21:11.359 and and put bombs and explosives and blow it up. 1662 01:21:11.399 --> 01:21:12.359 I've never heard any of this. 1663 01:21:12.840 --> 01:21:16.079 Factory managers who were who were you know, uh in 1664 01:21:16.239 --> 01:21:18.840 charge of like overseeing the production of steel and stuff, 1665 01:21:19.119 --> 01:21:21.760 some of them were Trotsky eyed agents, and they would 1666 01:21:21.800 --> 01:21:26.039 sabotage product production. So instead of yes, it would fail 1667 01:21:26.520 --> 01:21:31.239 the party absolutely. And then when collectivization started in the countryside, 1668 01:21:31.239 --> 01:21:33.479 whose only purpose, by the way, was to create a 1669 01:21:33.560 --> 01:21:39.199 base for industrialization. You had a collaboration between Kulos and 1670 01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:43.800 the Trotskyites and other saboteurs to basically start killing livestock 1671 01:21:44.000 --> 01:21:47.199 and sabotaging agricultural production, and that's what led to the 1672 01:21:47.279 --> 01:21:48.960 famine in thirty two thirty three. 1673 01:21:49.000 --> 01:21:51.640 It's like well known about often or not very exactly. 1674 01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:55.000 I recommend the author Grover for talks about this. Either 1675 01:21:56.159 --> 01:21:57.760 I've not heard anything. No, no, no, no, this is 1676 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:01.159 like very niche. Yeah, this is college definitely. This is 1677 01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:06.359 so interesting. Yeah, so Stalin was that's why in finally 1678 01:22:06.439 --> 01:22:09.439 in the late thirties, you had the Great Purges. Okay, 1679 01:22:09.520 --> 01:22:12.239 if you heard of the term the Great Purges. Overwhelmingly 1680 01:22:12.279 --> 01:22:14.239 the victims of the Great Purges were people in the 1681 01:22:14.319 --> 01:22:18.239 party who were infiltraders. So they were purged, they were shot, 1682 01:22:18.359 --> 01:22:21.399 taken out and killed whatever. It was chaos. But then 1683 01:22:21.439 --> 01:22:23.520 when all is said and done, when they finally could 1684 01:22:23.560 --> 01:22:28.880 consolidate real power and remove the saboteurs, remove the infiltraders, 1685 01:22:30.039 --> 01:22:32.760 you have a long arc, a big story where Stalin, 1686 01:22:33.159 --> 01:22:35.319 in the words of Churchill, right, he begins with a 1687 01:22:35.359 --> 01:22:39.039 country that's using wooden plows and he left it as 1688 01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:44.479 a country with nuclear weapons Russia, you know Russia program 1689 01:22:44.760 --> 01:22:46.800 and look you got it. Look the German athletes, the 1690 01:22:46.920 --> 01:22:50.600 German army was like extremely advanced. 1691 01:22:50.920 --> 01:22:53.720 They were very powerful, steamrolling people in Europe. 1692 01:22:53.520 --> 01:22:58.520 With the Blitzkrek and the fact the Soviets the word 1693 01:22:58.600 --> 01:23:01.920 absolutely even the ally Churchill admitted that he said, okay, 1694 01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:03.439 well it was really the Soviets who. 1695 01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:05.119 Did dominating the war until then. 1696 01:23:05.840 --> 01:23:09.039 The Soviets lost twenty seven million people in that war. 1697 01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:12.319 Twenty seven million, right, But the fact they could go 1698 01:23:12.520 --> 01:23:14.359 toe to toe with like one of the most advanced 1699 01:23:14.399 --> 01:23:17.560 industrial powers in the world. Even Hitler and his private 1700 01:23:18.640 --> 01:23:23.399 his private correspondences or his private consultations where he's like 1701 01:23:23.960 --> 01:23:27.560 thirty thousand tanks, He's like, who that? Where was the 1702 01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.359 intelligence to tell us these guys are making because he 1703 01:23:30.479 --> 01:23:34.279 was being made thirty Yeah, Hitler was being fed this intelligence. 1704 01:23:34.640 --> 01:23:36.199 I don't know his exact number, but he was like 1705 01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:37.039 a crazy but a lot. 1706 01:23:37.119 --> 01:23:37.319 Yeah. 1707 01:23:37.359 --> 01:23:40.119 Yeah, he was being given intelligence that the Soviet Union 1708 01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:41.800 is weak, decrepit. 1709 01:23:42.880 --> 01:23:45.640 War potentially maybe one time, I don't know. 1710 01:23:45.720 --> 01:23:49.159 But potentially, I mean I can only speculate, uh I 1711 01:23:49.960 --> 01:23:53.079 you know, I myself think that Hitler from the beginning 1712 01:23:53.319 --> 01:23:54.760 was somebody. 1713 01:23:54.439 --> 01:23:55.840 Who he's a bad actor. I know some people. 1714 01:23:55.920 --> 01:23:58.159 I think he was connected to Royal Dutch shell and 1715 01:23:58.279 --> 01:23:58.880 the British and. 1716 01:23:59.039 --> 01:24:02.960 He rested the rothschild and stuff. Obviously anything could be manipulated. 1717 01:24:02.439 --> 01:24:06.359 But he uh he, he temporarily detained them. But he 1718 01:24:06.479 --> 01:24:11.359 was still servicing the debt to international financial power. Never never, 1719 01:24:11.479 --> 01:24:15.439 he actually changed the system of debt servicing into an 1720 01:24:15.520 --> 01:24:19.960 internal mechanism of rearmament through the MIPHO mark system. And 1721 01:24:20.159 --> 01:24:22.680 basically he was basically telling the international bankers of the world, 1722 01:24:22.800 --> 01:24:25.439 you know, we're going to be building this military industrial 1723 01:24:25.479 --> 01:24:27.159 complex and then we're going to pay you back when 1724 01:24:27.159 --> 01:24:27.600 we lose. 1725 01:24:27.640 --> 01:24:30.039 Also, in his speeches going after this, you think there 1726 01:24:30.119 --> 01:24:30.960 was a contradictory. 1727 01:24:30.960 --> 01:24:33.479 I think it's like Trump, you know, he says one 1728 01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.039 thing and then in reality beaches are great. Well, I mean, 1729 01:24:37.119 --> 01:24:39.640 he he did become popular for the. 1730 01:24:39.840 --> 01:24:42.399 Time looking into this, He's really popular. You can't deny that. 1731 01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:44.800 No, I mean, I'm I'm just sharing my views, you know, 1732 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:46.119 That's where where I'm coming from. 1733 01:24:46.159 --> 01:24:46.439 I don't. 1734 01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:51.840 Yeah, I like sometimes for it, but but but in 1735 01:24:51.920 --> 01:24:54.680 any case, I mean, the Yeah, the Germans very much 1736 01:24:54.800 --> 01:24:57.319 underestimated the Soviets, and so did the whole Western world. 1737 01:24:57.319 --> 01:24:59.279 But if you looked at the American and British press 1738 01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:01.680 when the Is invaded, they were like, Okay, Russia's done. 1739 01:25:01.720 --> 01:25:04.439 They're going to get destroyed, right, But it turns out 1740 01:25:04.800 --> 01:25:08.560 they had a very because Stalin did those purges. There 1741 01:25:08.680 --> 01:25:13.159 was like a very well tight command system in place, 1742 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:16.680 industrial system, very proficient one in place, where like they 1743 01:25:16.720 --> 01:25:20.119 were just churning out tanks and automobiles and weapons and 1744 01:25:20.199 --> 01:25:24.439 missiles and guns and ammunition, and they would move their factories. 1745 01:25:24.479 --> 01:25:25.039 Can you believe it? 1746 01:25:25.079 --> 01:25:27.439 Like they they they would take the Nazis would go 1747 01:25:27.439 --> 01:25:29.680 and destroy all their factories, right, they would. They would 1748 01:25:29.720 --> 01:25:31.319 take their equipment, they would go all the way to 1749 01:25:31.399 --> 01:25:35.880 Siberia behind the Urals, and they would build giant factories. Yeah, 1750 01:25:35.880 --> 01:25:37.840 to fund the Someone. 1751 01:25:37.680 --> 01:25:39.600 Just said they've already rebuilt the bridges and I ran 1752 01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:41.000 or some of them, not all of them. 1753 01:25:41.720 --> 01:25:42.720 It wouldn't surprise me. 1754 01:25:42.840 --> 01:25:46.279 I don't think iok that up. But that's like impressive 1755 01:25:46.279 --> 01:25:49.560 if they are when people have the will and America, 1756 01:25:49.640 --> 01:25:51.479 nothing can be done quick anymore. It's too much like 1757 01:25:51.800 --> 01:25:52.760 I don't understand, Like. 1758 01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:55.800 No, that's actually that's like one of the appeals for it. 1759 01:25:55.960 --> 01:25:58.079 Like some people I guess might be attracted to communism 1760 01:25:58.119 --> 01:26:01.000 because it's an entitlement thing and they just whatever for you. 1761 01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:02.399 It's not because you want like free shit. 1762 01:26:02.600 --> 01:26:04.800 No, it's it's we love this idea that we're just 1763 01:26:04.880 --> 01:26:07.079 like gonna get it done. You know, we're all gonna 1764 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.800 band together, use our muscle, use our strength to build 1765 01:26:11.039 --> 01:26:16.159 a very powerful, uh like industry and and very powerful 1766 01:26:16.199 --> 01:26:19.159 productive forces to create prosperity for our society. 1767 01:26:19.880 --> 01:26:21.960 Things great, absolutely, It's like you build. 1768 01:26:21.680 --> 01:26:24.239 A giant bridge, or you build a giant dam. You 1769 01:26:24.319 --> 01:26:26.479 look at that every time you pass it by. You said, 1770 01:26:26.520 --> 01:26:26.960 we built that. 1771 01:26:27.119 --> 01:26:29.319 We have Hoover Dam out here, which is spectacular. But 1772 01:26:29.319 --> 01:26:31.920 they're not building stuff like that, not g bridge. When's 1773 01:26:31.920 --> 01:26:33.960 the last time we've built anything magnificent like that. 1774 01:26:35.000 --> 01:26:37.520 We're not gonna again because it's not profitable. It's not 1775 01:26:37.760 --> 01:26:40.960 you think about the logic of the system. The most 1776 01:26:41.000 --> 01:26:44.239 profitable thing to do is be a fucking parasite, which is, yes, 1777 01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:46.479 seize the wealth. Sees the thing that was built one 1778 01:26:46.560 --> 01:26:49.680 hundred years ago or seventy years ago, whatever, right sees that, 1779 01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:52.479 and it just keep up in the rent on it 1780 01:26:52.960 --> 01:26:54.399 and you can just increase the rent forever. 1781 01:26:54.479 --> 01:26:55.119 Electricity. 1782 01:26:55.560 --> 01:26:58.399 H We're always gonna be electricity, right, So instead of 1783 01:26:58.560 --> 01:27:00.920 making our electricity better and more efficient, we're just gonna 1784 01:27:01.000 --> 01:27:02.880 up the rent on your electricity, no problem. 1785 01:27:02.960 --> 01:27:05.600 I was in college in California. They faked these rolling blackouts. 1786 01:27:05.640 --> 01:27:08.119 They said they couldn't keep up with all the powers 1787 01:27:08.159 --> 01:27:09.760 they could jack the rates up. I think maybe it 1788 01:27:09.840 --> 01:27:12.359 was run or something. We're like, oh, power is always 1789 01:27:12.359 --> 01:27:15.079 going out. It's completely just fake. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, 1790 01:27:15.159 --> 01:27:16.920 stuff like that. It's just no. 1791 01:27:17.119 --> 01:27:19.159 I mean, yeah, that's just kind of how we see it. 1792 01:27:19.279 --> 01:27:21.479 And uh, you know, look, I mean we kind of 1793 01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.119 like this idea, like we're gonna There's there's two ways 1794 01:27:24.159 --> 01:27:26.479 of looking at it, right. You could say I want 1795 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:28.960 to be lazy and weak and I want others to 1796 01:27:29.039 --> 01:27:31.319 do shit format, and that's what That's what a lot 1797 01:27:31.319 --> 01:27:34.479 of people associated. But there's some you know, I think 1798 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:37.680 the real American Communists, which I think is our party 1799 01:27:37.800 --> 01:27:40.560 and our people. I think we have the mentality of Okay, 1800 01:27:40.600 --> 01:27:43.119 we all have skills and strength, let's pool together our 1801 01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:46.680 strengths and create and do great things that could work. 1802 01:27:46.720 --> 01:27:48.159 But it's like, how do we get everyone behind it. 1803 01:27:48.239 --> 01:27:49.840 How do we everyone working hard? And I don't know, 1804 01:27:50.359 --> 01:27:52.319 maybe there's people Hey if you're if you're not working, 1805 01:27:52.399 --> 01:27:54.319 you're not getting the same treatment, right, I don't know, they. 1806 01:27:54.399 --> 01:27:57.199 Know, I absolutely you know. Even Lennon said, he who 1807 01:27:57.279 --> 01:27:59.960 does not work doesn't eat. That comes from the Bible, 1808 01:28:00.439 --> 01:28:00.600 you know. 1809 01:28:00.800 --> 01:28:02.840 Yeah, it's fair. I remember, like Eddie talking to him. 1810 01:28:02.880 --> 01:28:04.159 What do you say, one of the most important things 1811 01:28:04.199 --> 01:28:06.600 you can do first is become a very respected member 1812 01:28:06.680 --> 01:28:10.119 of your community. Yeah. Yeah, you respected by people around 1813 01:28:10.159 --> 01:28:11.800 you and your peers, then they're going to listen to And. 1814 01:28:11.800 --> 01:28:15.119 That's the true form of inequality. That's justified. It's absolutely 1815 01:28:15.399 --> 01:28:18.479 just that somebody who's a hero of their community. 1816 01:28:18.159 --> 01:28:20.119 Has to have respect. Like a lot of people. I've 1817 01:28:20.159 --> 01:28:22.199 woken a lot of people designers saying, because I'm respected 1818 01:28:22.239 --> 01:28:24.079 around people, you have to get respect or they're not. 1819 01:28:24.279 --> 01:28:26.479 I can to listen to some bum loser. But if 1820 01:28:26.479 --> 01:28:29.199 someone's you know, coaching wrestling and doing that absolute being 1821 01:28:29.239 --> 01:28:31.279 a good member of society and they started preaching something, 1822 01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:32.840 you're going to like, Okay, listen here what you have 1823 01:28:32.960 --> 01:28:34.880 to say. Hey, guys, I want to introduce you to 1824 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:38.319 one of our sponsors. Analop Hill Publishing. 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We 1836 01:29:09.520 --> 01:29:12.039 get a lot of hate, and I think it's mainly 1837 01:29:12.199 --> 01:29:16.840 Massad and zion as bots. What does our party mainly do? 1838 01:29:16.960 --> 01:29:19.560 We try to serve our communities. We try to do 1839 01:29:19.840 --> 01:29:23.319 work to actually prove, you know, like that we we 1840 01:29:23.439 --> 01:29:24.439 are what we talk about. 1841 01:29:24.560 --> 01:29:26.720 Yeah, you have to add, like, well, there's I've heard 1842 01:29:26.720 --> 01:29:29.840 of Patriot Front. They're a white only group. They're really demonized, 1843 01:29:29.960 --> 01:29:33.079 but they're doing all kinds of community service. He's building. 1844 01:29:33.439 --> 01:29:35.319 I said, I'll talk to anyone, so men think I'd 1845 01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:37.800 actually really liked him. I went and did. Uh when 1846 01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:40.560 there was there was these floods in Texas, we were 1847 01:29:40.560 --> 01:29:41.960 getting up there like four in the morning and going 1848 01:29:42.000 --> 01:29:42.960 there and working clear. 1849 01:29:42.880 --> 01:29:44.640 We were we were there. Yeah, we were there during 1850 01:29:44.680 --> 01:29:45.439 It feels good. 1851 01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:47.119 To go and like work, and as a group, it's 1852 01:29:47.159 --> 01:29:48.720 a lot easier to go and do. 1853 01:29:49.159 --> 01:29:52.359 Yeah, and our organization. I think one of the main 1854 01:29:53.079 --> 01:29:55.960 things also is that we we don't we want a 1855 01:29:56.159 --> 01:29:59.039 unified nation that's not based on race, you know. 1856 01:29:59.199 --> 01:30:01.600 Yeah, no, I agree, Like I'll talk to these white nationals, 1857 01:30:01.680 --> 01:30:04.199 so I think I don't dislike the guys, but I 1858 01:30:04.319 --> 01:30:06.399 think we have to have something to pull us together. 1859 01:30:06.479 --> 01:30:08.960 I think it's the problem, and race is one aspect, 1860 01:30:09.039 --> 01:30:11.079 but if you could find something else that's better. 1861 01:30:11.840 --> 01:30:13.800 Yeah, I mean that, that's yeah, that's kind of like 1862 01:30:13.960 --> 01:30:16.399 one of the major distinguishing things for us is like 1863 01:30:17.239 --> 01:30:22.359 you know, uh, I'm not saying this is the only reason. Yeah, 1864 01:30:22.399 --> 01:30:25.239 like a huge factor for why we are left wing 1865 01:30:25.840 --> 01:30:30.439 and we reject fundamentally the far right ideas or far 1866 01:30:30.560 --> 01:30:33.640 right ideas whatever. It's just like, look, ultimately, I think 1867 01:30:33.760 --> 01:30:37.600 when you translate into practice certain kinds of nationalism in 1868 01:30:37.640 --> 01:30:41.159 this country, it's gonna be race war, racial conflict, and. 1869 01:30:41.239 --> 01:30:43.000 It's not gonna be good. I talk to some of 1870 01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:45.520 these white nationalists and it's not realistic. I would be 1871 01:30:45.560 --> 01:30:47.960 okay with making a county all white, accounty all black, 1872 01:30:48.039 --> 01:30:50.359 but when they're talking about like we're gonna get rid 1873 01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:51.159 of these people. 1874 01:30:51.600 --> 01:30:53.439 Like this is not gonna happen, right, right, I mean 1875 01:30:53.520 --> 01:30:56.600 we are a multi we are in practice a multi racial. 1876 01:30:56.399 --> 01:30:58.199 Country where I say, like, let's try to get these 1877 01:30:58.279 --> 01:30:59.920 races that maybe you have problems with, Let's try to 1878 01:31:00.079 --> 01:31:01.079 it's all on the same page. 1879 01:31:01.079 --> 01:31:05.119 All our dream is that, Okay, each there are different 1880 01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:09.640 communities that exist objective. Some communities are white, some communities 1881 01:31:09.680 --> 01:31:13.359 are black, whatever, But how about there should be leaders 1882 01:31:13.399 --> 01:31:16.880 in each community who represent their village, their people. Let's 1883 01:31:16.960 --> 01:31:19.760 come together and just work together as one nation. 1884 01:31:20.159 --> 01:31:20.319 You know. 1885 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:25.640 It's like there's different types of multiculturalism. Some multiculturalism just says, 1886 01:31:25.800 --> 01:31:29.359 you know, let's completely ignore our separate histories and differences. 1887 01:31:29.600 --> 01:31:32.239 Nobody wants, even Black people don't want that. Mexican people 1888 01:31:32.239 --> 01:31:34.640 don't want They don't want to have their entire history 1889 01:31:34.720 --> 01:31:36.279 or rased and just said, Okay, you're just going to 1890 01:31:36.319 --> 01:31:40.640 be part of But I do think we can coexist 1891 01:31:40.720 --> 01:31:45.479 and even fuse together on a basis of mutual respect, understanding. 1892 01:31:45.720 --> 01:31:47.600 Towards and like, yeah, yeah, I've I've had a Black 1893 01:31:47.680 --> 01:31:50.119 National show a couple times. Iokamathi. I like the guy. 1894 01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:52.399 It is the funny part. He even says he's not 1895 01:31:52.520 --> 01:31:54.319 like white people, but I like you. You realize, Oh, 1896 01:31:54.359 --> 01:31:55.920 we can have common good and a lot of That's 1897 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:56.560 that's what I mean. 1898 01:31:57.159 --> 01:32:00.399 When we start, when we start meeting each other and 1899 01:32:00.600 --> 01:32:03.359 working together, Notice how the hatred disappears. 1900 01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:05.239 We have these real conversations and you realize you like 1901 01:32:05.279 --> 01:32:05.560 each other. 1902 01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:08.319 We have to we have to man to man or 1903 01:32:08.359 --> 01:32:10.479 woman to woman. We have to meet face to face 1904 01:32:11.199 --> 01:32:14.119 and actually talk. We have to. It's like it all 1905 01:32:14.239 --> 01:32:15.840 begins with respect, you know. 1906 01:32:16.119 --> 01:32:17.479 Or do you Guys said like the N word around 1907 01:32:17.520 --> 01:32:19.720 them and he just goes, oh, I don't use that word, 1908 01:32:19.760 --> 01:32:21.359 and I don't like people around me. Oh you don't 1909 01:32:21.439 --> 01:32:24.359 use it. That's totally I apologize. Yeah, if he's constantly 1910 01:32:24.359 --> 01:32:25.960 staying around me, then he's trying to punk me. You know, 1911 01:32:26.039 --> 01:32:28.479 it's like a word game. The guys. You don't I apologize. 1912 01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:32.119 If if you meet someone on the basis of okay, 1913 01:32:32.119 --> 01:32:34.039 I have this conception of you. You're a part of 1914 01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:35.840 a certain race, you're a part of a certain background. 1915 01:32:35.880 --> 01:32:38.239 I'm not going to disrespect you. Of course, You're not 1916 01:32:38.279 --> 01:32:38.960 gonna get anywhere. 1917 01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:40.359 Yeah, it just shows you on basic respect. 1918 01:32:40.399 --> 01:32:43.159 When you show people respect and you begin from that level, 1919 01:32:44.119 --> 01:32:46.840 you can build bridges. I think it's possible to build bridges. 1920 01:32:47.920 --> 01:32:52.640 I think in history tribes were different, but because tribal 1921 01:32:52.720 --> 01:32:55.880 chiefs and leaders could come together and have respect, actually 1922 01:32:55.920 --> 01:32:57.960 tribes could unify and become a bigger tribe. 1923 01:32:58.239 --> 01:33:00.199 You know. I agree. I've always been good to hop 1924 01:33:00.279 --> 01:33:01.880 in between different groups that I'm not supposed to be 1925 01:33:01.920 --> 01:33:04.439 able to and I realize that people aren't that different 1926 01:33:04.439 --> 01:33:06.800 for the most part. Now, these parasites that are selling 1927 01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:09.359 in our country out I have hatred towards them. Yeah, 1928 01:33:09.520 --> 01:33:10.760 the common American I don't. 1929 01:33:11.239 --> 01:33:13.840 Yeah, for sure, for sure. It's like you know, at 1930 01:33:13.840 --> 01:33:15.920 the end of the day, you know, the number one 1931 01:33:16.000 --> 01:33:19.079 weapon I think they have at their disposal, the people 1932 01:33:19.119 --> 01:33:21.680 that rule, the people that have power, is painting us 1933 01:33:21.720 --> 01:33:24.920 as hateful people, painting us as people as hateful, And 1934 01:33:25.039 --> 01:33:27.479 what does hate mean? It means we're not going to 1935 01:33:27.479 --> 01:33:29.800 be able to unify because if we're hateful. That means 1936 01:33:29.840 --> 01:33:31.880 we hate our neighbors for being a different race or 1937 01:33:31.920 --> 01:33:34.640 religion is something. And you know, to be clear, it's 1938 01:33:34.640 --> 01:33:37.680 always the line of attack anti Semitism, anti Semitism. I 1939 01:33:37.720 --> 01:33:40.439 don't hate Jews no, same time my parents, my parents 1940 01:33:40.520 --> 01:33:42.920 come from South Lebanon. I have every reason to have 1941 01:33:43.079 --> 01:33:46.520 that kind of ethnic hatred, right, But I don't you know, 1942 01:33:46.920 --> 01:33:48.279 at the end of day, I'm going to judge people 1943 01:33:48.279 --> 01:33:49.159 by the merit of their. 1944 01:33:49.079 --> 01:33:51.760 Character everyone, Yeah, and different races might be different, but 1945 01:33:51.880 --> 01:33:53.560 also judge them individually. Yeah. 1946 01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:55.720 And it's like I think, if you stand for the good, 1947 01:33:56.000 --> 01:34:00.000 you stand up for what's right, and people are reacting 1948 01:34:00.119 --> 01:34:02.520 to that negatively put that burden on them. I'm gonna 1949 01:34:02.520 --> 01:34:04.520 stand my ground. I'm gonna stand up for what's right. 1950 01:34:05.119 --> 01:34:07.800 And you know, if there's a ton of Jews who 1951 01:34:07.840 --> 01:34:10.079 have a problem with that, I'm not even gonna take 1952 01:34:10.119 --> 01:34:13.439 the bait and say, oh I hate you, you stinking Jews. 1953 01:34:13.439 --> 01:34:15.920 I'm gonna say, you know what, that's your problem. 1954 01:34:16.119 --> 01:34:19.239 Something I've noticed too. If you slightly criticize Israel, or 1955 01:34:19.279 --> 01:34:21.840 if you go hard like damn Blasarian, they're gonna fret 1956 01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:23.960 you exactly the same they're gonna hate you the same amount. 1957 01:34:24.079 --> 01:34:26.119 Yeah, exactly, it doesn't matter what your theory of power, 1958 01:34:27.439 --> 01:34:30.079 the same they they hate me and Jackson the same 1959 01:34:30.159 --> 01:34:32.600 way they hate you. They say, we're we're just as 1960 01:34:32.680 --> 01:34:34.479 much anti Semites as you are in their eyes. 1961 01:34:34.680 --> 01:34:34.800 Right. 1962 01:34:35.159 --> 01:34:37.279 And here's another thing I'll say is, look, there's a 1963 01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:41.000 lot of political correctness around you know, the Jewish, and 1964 01:34:41.159 --> 01:34:44.039 I have no patience for it. Because as long as 1965 01:34:44.079 --> 01:34:48.560 we can establish like you don't hate Jews fundamental, that's 1966 01:34:48.560 --> 01:34:50.640 what I mean, Like you're able to meet a Jewish 1967 01:34:50.680 --> 01:34:52.319 person and be like, I don't want to attack you, 1968 01:34:52.399 --> 01:34:55.239 and I don't hate you just because of where you come. Yeah, 1969 01:34:55.279 --> 01:34:58.479 that's to me, like what's important, Right, as long as 1970 01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.880 we can establish like we're not gonna create a precedent 1971 01:35:01.479 --> 01:35:04.039 where we're going to target or hate people just because 1972 01:35:04.039 --> 01:35:06.720 their background, you know, just because like what their blood 1973 01:35:06.840 --> 01:35:07.079 is or. 1974 01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:09.760 Whether judged individually. 1975 01:35:10.039 --> 01:35:12.479 But can I think most of the sentiment when people 1976 01:35:12.520 --> 01:35:14.880 in this country are talking about Jews or people in 1977 01:35:15.119 --> 01:35:18.239 the Middle East are talking about Jews especially, they're talking 1978 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:21.479 about a specific like zionis power. 1979 01:35:21.359 --> 01:35:24.039 Structure, right, right, And there's a lot of Jews that 1980 01:35:24.119 --> 01:35:27.760 go along with it maybe the majority, you know, I 1981 01:35:27.800 --> 01:35:29.359 would agree with that. Yeah, that's a problem. 1982 01:35:29.640 --> 01:35:32.319 No, yeah, yeah, absolutely, I mean we we don't need 1983 01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:36.199 to be politically correct about the By the way, you 1984 01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:39.359 know a lot of the Iranian diaspora. 1985 01:35:39.800 --> 01:35:41.000 They were pro war. 1986 01:35:41.199 --> 01:35:45.359 Yeah, there's all sorts of Ukrainian diaspora supporting the war 1987 01:35:45.399 --> 01:35:45.960 in Ukraine. 1988 01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:50.359 Right. One of my good friends is Persian and his parents. 1989 01:35:50.439 --> 01:35:52.680 At first they're pro the war, but now they're like anti. 1990 01:35:53.600 --> 01:35:55.560 Well because when when really's end, I want to hit 1991 01:35:55.600 --> 01:35:57.399 one or two things real quick before we wrap, So 1992 01:35:57.399 --> 01:35:59.439 I think it's important, like an hour, and yeah, I 1993 01:36:00.239 --> 01:36:02.239 do want to hit a couple more things real quick 1994 01:36:02.319 --> 01:36:02.600 for sure. 1995 01:36:02.640 --> 01:36:02.920 For sure. 1996 01:36:04.000 --> 01:36:06.560 First off, well, we didn't hit Mao either, so let's 1997 01:36:06.600 --> 01:36:09.920 just yeah quick mount. I think also, Cuba is interesting 1998 01:36:09.960 --> 01:36:13.319 real quick because we are so heavily embargoed, right, Okay, 1999 01:36:13.319 --> 01:36:15.800 they're poor, but they can't get anything in Why do 2000 01:36:15.880 --> 01:36:18.920 we still embargo them? Why can't they like, well, look, 2001 01:36:19.039 --> 01:36:20.880 let's get Cuba first, and Cuba first. 2002 01:36:21.560 --> 01:36:25.960 One of the biggest role models in UH inspirations for 2003 01:36:26.079 --> 01:36:28.880 me is Chegovar. Actually, Chegovar is the one who made 2004 01:36:28.920 --> 01:36:32.079 me become a communist. Learning about Jagovar, right. Chaegovar was 2005 01:36:32.119 --> 01:36:37.399 a revolutionary in Cuba who went there and he went 2006 01:36:37.439 --> 01:36:40.279 to the mountains and the Sierra mountains, right, and he 2007 01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:44.319 started to embed himself with the ordinary folk that we're 2008 01:36:44.359 --> 01:36:47.159 living in Cuba. And that was the base of operations 2009 01:36:47.199 --> 01:36:51.359 for the Gorilla war ultimately against the mafia backed and 2010 01:36:51.520 --> 01:36:56.399 installed dictatorship that we had in Cuba, right, the batistat that. 2011 01:36:56.800 --> 01:36:57.119 Yeah, we. 2012 01:36:58.600 --> 01:37:00.640 Put them in and it was a mafia estate. It 2013 01:37:00.760 --> 01:37:03.800 was controlled by the mafia. People say, oh, Havannah was 2014 01:37:03.840 --> 01:37:08.119 so good, Okay, Havanah was a thriving Citylansky had him 2015 01:37:08.840 --> 01:37:11.319 mayor Lansky. Yeah, okay, but then ninety percent of Cuba 2016 01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:12.039 was a shipthole. 2017 01:37:12.279 --> 01:37:14.000 Well, I don't think my Lansky having casino is your 2018 01:37:14.000 --> 01:37:14.720 place is a good thing. 2019 01:37:15.000 --> 01:37:17.880 Absolutely not. So when they kicked out the mafia out 2020 01:37:17.880 --> 01:37:23.680 of Cuba, when they kicked out the Cuba and plus yeah, yeah, 2021 01:37:23.840 --> 01:37:28.520 the Jewish mafia, the other other mafia, he was there 2022 01:37:28.560 --> 01:37:31.319 for sure, Yeah, had mafia boss. But then you know 2023 01:37:31.399 --> 01:37:35.119 what's crazy is that that's right on our doorstep. And 2024 01:37:35.239 --> 01:37:38.039 that really pissed off the Wall Street in Washington and 2025 01:37:38.119 --> 01:37:40.279 the centers of power here. They're like it's it was 2026 01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:42.079 the biggest fuck you ever. It was like right on 2027 01:37:42.199 --> 01:37:45.359 the doorstep. Yeah, they were there, right, So they had 2028 01:37:45.399 --> 01:37:48.479 to punish Cuba viciously. They had to really set an example, 2029 01:37:49.159 --> 01:37:52.960 and they had to sadistically ensure that Cuba will never 2030 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:58.479 be able to actually thrives America. Yeah, so people tell you, well, 2031 01:37:58.520 --> 01:38:02.239 Haw's Cuba is a shithole. I'm like, well, look, Cuba's 2032 01:38:02.279 --> 01:38:04.239 not doing well, but it's not being allowed to do well. 2033 01:38:04.279 --> 01:38:07.079 If they don't let anything in and out right the anyone. 2034 01:38:06.840 --> 01:38:08.920 Who wants to do business with them can't do business 2035 01:38:08.960 --> 01:38:11.479 with us. So what they're reasoning for doing that, well, 2036 01:38:11.560 --> 01:38:15.399 our reasoning is that we had to punish and torture Cuba. Yeah, 2037 01:38:15.439 --> 01:38:18.720 we have to because we tried taking back the island. 2038 01:38:18.840 --> 01:38:21.600 We failed with the Bay of Pigs, and there was 2039 01:38:21.640 --> 01:38:25.840 a nuclear standoff when Russia got involved, when they wanted 2040 01:38:25.880 --> 01:38:26.960 to put the weapons there in. 2041 01:38:27.000 --> 01:38:29.920 Nuclear I think this is important because it's exactly what 2042 01:38:29.920 --> 01:38:32.119 we're trying to do with Ukraine. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, 2043 01:38:32.199 --> 01:38:34.920 we said nope, So why should Russia allow us put 2044 01:38:35.079 --> 01:38:35.720 nukes in Ukraine? 2045 01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:37.960 The worst part is that Cuba just wanted to do 2046 01:38:38.079 --> 01:38:40.399 it in self defense. Because they had already gone in 2047 01:38:40.479 --> 01:38:46.199 bab right, But yeah, we we I think it's a 2048 01:38:46.520 --> 01:38:50.000 very Americans are just not awake yet. And I regret 2049 01:38:50.079 --> 01:38:53.520 that they're getting awake about Palestine. But we're on the cuspin, 2050 01:38:53.600 --> 01:38:55.640 on the verge of taking Cuba. 2051 01:38:56.680 --> 01:38:59.039 Yeah. Trump keeps saying he might, yeah, and he might. 2052 01:38:59.159 --> 01:39:02.880 Look what he's might, like be absolutely Cuba's in a 2053 01:39:02.960 --> 01:39:05.479 crisis now because they got their oil and energy from Venezuela. 2054 01:39:05.560 --> 01:39:08.279 That's over. It's blackouts are across the whole nation, and 2055 01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:11.600 the regime change in Cuba is now very possible. And 2056 01:39:11.640 --> 01:39:13.840 it's it's sad Americans aren't educated about it. 2057 01:39:14.119 --> 01:39:15.880 These seems sick. We won't let these people run the 2058 01:39:15.920 --> 01:39:18.359 government how they want to run their government, so instead 2059 01:39:18.439 --> 01:39:19.159 we just like starving. 2060 01:39:19.279 --> 01:39:22.279 And you know, the the knuckleheads and idiots that cheer 2061 01:39:22.359 --> 01:39:25.880 this stuff on, even in Venezuela, It's like what they 2062 01:39:25.920 --> 01:39:28.600 don't get is like, look, when when the regime is 2063 01:39:28.640 --> 01:39:31.920 waving its dick around and violating international law and just 2064 01:39:32.119 --> 01:39:35.760 destroying sovereign countries abroad, you know, they're sending a message 2065 01:39:35.800 --> 01:39:38.800 to us too. Right, they could do anything they want 2066 01:39:38.840 --> 01:39:40.760 to us as well. If they can go to Venezuela 2067 01:39:40.760 --> 01:39:42.920 and Cuba and slap them around the way that they 2068 01:39:43.000 --> 01:39:45.159 do that that's a message to us. 2069 01:39:45.239 --> 01:39:48.119 They're looking at us too. And Ice was like killing 2070 01:39:48.159 --> 01:39:50.920 American citizens. People are cheering it on, like you're cheering 2071 01:39:51.000 --> 01:39:53.920 on a police state. Yeah, the same people were critical 2072 01:39:53.960 --> 01:39:57.039 of Ruby Ridge rightfully, so in the Waco, Texas right 2073 01:39:57.119 --> 01:39:59.640 now they're cheering on like executing US citizens. 2074 01:39:59.680 --> 01:40:01.479 It's like, you know, what I appreciate is that we 2075 01:40:01.640 --> 01:40:04.319 don't have to have the same ideology, but we kind 2076 01:40:04.359 --> 01:40:07.239 of have the same common sense. See humanity absolutely, you know, 2077 01:40:07.640 --> 01:40:10.199 there's an underlying shared humanity we have to have that 2078 01:40:10.279 --> 01:40:14.640 I think we have lost in the name of idea. 2079 01:40:15.039 --> 01:40:17.039 In the name of ideology. It's like they're like, well, 2080 01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:19.439 these liberals hate us, And it's like, well, is it 2081 01:40:19.520 --> 01:40:21.359 true that all of them hate you? Is it true 2082 01:40:21.399 --> 01:40:24.399 that shouldn't you have some good faith towards your fellow 2083 01:40:24.439 --> 01:40:27.399 American That Okay, there's extremists who are crazy or whatever, 2084 01:40:27.800 --> 01:40:29.359 But at the end of the day, most people are 2085 01:40:29.479 --> 01:40:32.680 human exactly and have common sense. I think most liberals, 2086 01:40:32.800 --> 01:40:34.720 if where they were at this table, could have a 2087 01:40:34.800 --> 01:40:37.159 conversation with us. I've talked to a lot of liberals. 2088 01:40:37.159 --> 01:40:40.560 They're normal human beings. Now, are there some extremists who 2089 01:40:40.600 --> 01:40:42.560 say you should be killed I hate you because you 2090 01:40:42.600 --> 01:40:45.640 have different views, for sure, but they're on the liberal side. 2091 01:40:46.119 --> 01:40:47.079 They're on the right as well. 2092 01:40:47.079 --> 01:40:48.640 Absolutely. 2093 01:40:48.760 --> 01:40:48.960 Yeah. 2094 01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:51.039 Yeah, I've always been you know, lived in liberal city, 2095 01:40:51.199 --> 01:40:54.039 been more conservative also, fighting has both, so I've always 2096 01:40:54.039 --> 01:40:55.840 been able to, you know, go back and forth being 2097 01:40:55.920 --> 01:40:57.319 both people and see them all as humans. 2098 01:40:57.520 --> 01:41:01.560 I've met many liberals and you know, uh, we disagree, 2099 01:41:01.600 --> 01:41:05.159 but we're still human, right exactly. Yeah, So yeah, that 2100 01:41:05.279 --> 01:41:06.760 that's that's really And then I know you want to 2101 01:41:06.800 --> 01:41:07.720 talk about Mau a little bit. 2102 01:41:07.800 --> 01:41:11.479 Yeah, that's a long time A quick little overview of 2103 01:41:12.000 --> 01:41:15.439 because that's you know, Chinese friends. They're obviously they're the 2104 01:41:15.479 --> 01:41:17.279 ones that fled and be critical of him. But like 2105 01:41:17.880 --> 01:41:20.600 there's the great lead forwards. The just just a quick 2106 01:41:20.640 --> 01:41:21.199 I guess history. 2107 01:41:21.279 --> 01:41:23.119 I'll just tell you the very quick one is that 2108 01:41:23.359 --> 01:41:26.279 today in China now for the only majority of Chinese field, 2109 01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:29.840 Mao is a revered like legendary. He's like the Buddha 2110 01:41:30.159 --> 01:41:34.199 almost like he's an extremely He represents the common people 2111 01:41:34.279 --> 01:41:36.680 in China today. You know, you go to the rural villages, 2112 01:41:36.760 --> 01:41:38.840 people it's like he's a saint, you know, Saint Mao. 2113 01:41:38.920 --> 01:41:40.560 He was he had our back, he was looking out 2114 01:41:40.920 --> 01:41:46.000 for interest. China is an interesting case because after Stalin died, 2115 01:41:46.199 --> 01:41:49.680 and we even speculate he might have been assassinated, a 2116 01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:53.000 kind of click took power in the USSR that basically 2117 01:41:53.079 --> 01:41:56.319 set the road and set set the table for Gorbachev, which. 2118 01:41:56.319 --> 01:41:58.279 Was do you think you kind of started going downhill 2119 01:41:58.319 --> 01:41:59.000 after Stalin? 2120 01:41:59.199 --> 01:42:02.640 I think so the USSR. There were achievements and stuff, 2121 01:42:02.680 --> 01:42:05.239 for sure, but like they were starting to drive it 2122 01:42:05.399 --> 01:42:06.920 toward a path of. 2123 01:42:08.840 --> 01:42:11.800 And people stayed comes in where people start self interest. 2124 01:42:11.560 --> 01:42:14.760 People stopped believing in the ideas as well, became cynical, 2125 01:42:15.359 --> 01:42:18.319 became more corrupt. China was on an opposite path. You know, 2126 01:42:18.479 --> 01:42:21.960 China had just had its Civil war, dirt poor country, 2127 01:42:22.039 --> 01:42:24.760 devastated by Japan, devastated by the war of the civil war, 2128 01:42:25.039 --> 01:42:26.760 and already starting out very backwards. 2129 01:42:26.960 --> 01:42:28.000 They started out very poor. 2130 01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.079 So Mao was similar to Stalin in that way. He's like, okay, 2131 01:42:31.119 --> 01:42:33.880 we basically have to start from nothing. Because the USSR 2132 01:42:34.600 --> 01:42:40.119 did support China in the fifties, but then they stopped 2133 01:42:40.640 --> 01:42:43.640 because Mao started to realize that the Soviets were trying 2134 01:42:43.680 --> 01:42:47.800 to impose their system and their way on China, and 2135 01:42:47.920 --> 01:42:50.279 he could already see the Soviets were becoming corrupt, and 2136 01:42:50.359 --> 01:42:53.119 he's like, well, I don't want that corruption in China, right, 2137 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:57.439 more or less, so Mao has Mao has to do 2138 01:42:57.600 --> 01:42:59.600 the great Leap forward, which is what it is. It 2139 01:42:59.640 --> 01:43:02.239 was a great Lee forward, which was the same thing 2140 01:43:02.319 --> 01:43:06.239 Stalin did in the thirties, but on a much grander scale. 2141 01:43:08.279 --> 01:43:11.439 Mao has to basically say, Okay, we Chinese have to 2142 01:43:11.640 --> 01:43:14.800 have a Chinese style socialism. We can't depend on any foreigners. 2143 01:43:14.840 --> 01:43:17.399 They're not going to give us loans. The Soviets are 2144 01:43:17.479 --> 01:43:19.920 being stingy with the loans, and uh, well they were 2145 01:43:20.000 --> 01:43:24.159 being generous at first, but yeah, China was becoming they're 2146 01:43:24.159 --> 01:43:26.960 becoming indebted. Yeah, yeah, exactly exactly. 2147 01:43:26.640 --> 01:43:28.920 And every becoming death gives out these loans. These countries 2148 01:43:28.960 --> 01:43:29.520 now we own. 2149 01:43:29.399 --> 01:43:34.079 You exactly right, So, uh, you know China, Mao basically said, okay, 2150 01:43:34.159 --> 01:43:37.239 we need to amp up the production of steel. We 2151 01:43:37.359 --> 01:43:40.439 need to kind of you know, create a very solid 2152 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:45.279 industrial base, energy infrastructure, h hydro power and stuff like that, 2153 01:43:45.960 --> 01:43:50.640 irrigation and and just increase our fundamentals when it comes 2154 01:43:50.640 --> 01:43:52.760 to our heavy industry because we no longer depend on 2155 01:43:52.800 --> 01:43:57.760 anyone else now. Uh. The main thing that they depended 2156 01:43:57.840 --> 01:44:00.600 on on China to do that was mobilizing It's an 2157 01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:04.880 interesting topic actually mobilizing the labor force of China based 2158 01:44:04.920 --> 01:44:08.720 on belief, really based on morale, right, basic like this 2159 01:44:08.960 --> 01:44:11.760 is this is like our cause, it's like our belief, 2160 01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:13.920 and we're gonna do it because we believe in this, 2161 01:44:14.479 --> 01:44:18.760 not necessarily like a material incentive, right, And that was 2162 01:44:18.800 --> 01:44:23.079 a kind of like voluntaristic idea that Soviets really didn't like, 2163 01:44:23.279 --> 01:44:27.600 because the Soviets would prefer basically to be more systematic 2164 01:44:27.680 --> 01:44:30.800 and institutional about things. But that also led to a 2165 01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:33.199 lot of chaos, okay. So there were people that were 2166 01:44:33.239 --> 01:44:37.079 starting at lower levels to misreport the amount that was 2167 01:44:37.159 --> 01:44:40.119 being produced. There were all sorts of There was all 2168 01:44:40.159 --> 01:44:44.720 sorts of chaos that happened in China during the greatly 2169 01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:48.079 Forward in addition to the fact there were droughts okay 2170 01:44:49.079 --> 01:44:53.000 that made the harvesters right, and that led to a 2171 01:44:53.039 --> 01:44:57.359 big famine. You know, the Chinese government says fifteen million 2172 01:44:58.000 --> 01:45:00.720 but people being killed, but yeah, and then here but 2173 01:45:00.800 --> 01:45:03.760 here's some missing never no but here they don't explain 2174 01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:08.479 the missing context. Before Mao, China regularly had famines that 2175 01:45:08.560 --> 01:45:10.840 killed millions and millions of people. China had a famine 2176 01:45:10.880 --> 01:45:13.880 that killed forty five million people before Mao. That's the 2177 01:45:13.920 --> 01:45:16.439 amount of people that died in the thirties before Mao, 2178 01:45:16.680 --> 01:45:19.159 just to it was considered normal and at the peak 2179 01:45:19.239 --> 01:45:20.399 of the greatly forward, at the. 2180 01:45:20.359 --> 01:45:22.239 Peak of it, they were just so poor and didn't happen. 2181 01:45:22.760 --> 01:45:24.640 So the way they calculate the deaths of the famine 2182 01:45:24.680 --> 01:45:26.960 is they look at the mortality rate. So they say, okay, 2183 01:45:26.960 --> 01:45:29.000 how many people per one hundred people, per a thousand 2184 01:45:29.039 --> 01:45:31.720 people are dying right at this given point, at the 2185 01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:33.840 peak of the greatly for when the famine was at 2186 01:45:33.920 --> 01:45:39.119 its worst, China still had less of a mortality rate 2187 01:45:39.199 --> 01:45:43.560 than India. You know what that means India. Yeah, India 2188 01:45:43.680 --> 01:45:45.960 was dealing with these capitalists. India was dealing with these 2189 01:45:46.479 --> 01:45:49.880 worst famines, worse deaths from malnutrition and zieas and healthcare. 2190 01:45:50.920 --> 01:45:54.359 It was after after. But it's funny because nobody says that, 2191 01:45:54.560 --> 01:45:57.439 I've never heard that. Nobody says that India was responsible 2192 01:45:57.439 --> 01:46:00.479 for mass murder. But even if the norm for India 2193 01:46:00.880 --> 01:46:03.600 was more people dying in access to what is normal 2194 01:46:03.760 --> 01:46:06.239 because of the system than at the worst point of 2195 01:46:06.279 --> 01:46:09.000 the famine. Under Mau the grat of fourth lasted, the 2196 01:46:09.079 --> 01:46:11.920 family lasted for three years. Right, what do we see 2197 01:46:11.960 --> 01:46:15.000 after the famine, which was yes, a massive blunder, a 2198 01:46:15.039 --> 01:46:19.840 massive case of dysfunction. They rapidly, very rapidly changed their 2199 01:46:20.000 --> 01:46:22.479 entire system and agriculture, and it was a lot of chaos. 2200 01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:26.479 But ultimately, in the long run, China's rates of the 2201 01:46:26.560 --> 01:46:30.279 production of steel, of the production of agriculture, food stuffs, 2202 01:46:30.680 --> 01:46:34.319 every category you can think of skyrockets from the period 2203 01:46:34.359 --> 01:46:37.159 of the sixties all the way to Mao's death. I mean, 2204 01:46:37.319 --> 01:46:42.640 China is industrializing at such a massive steady rate science, technology, innovation. 2205 01:46:42.760 --> 01:46:46.840 They're sending rockets up, They're developing technologies. They had the 2206 01:46:46.920 --> 01:46:49.079 Third Front movement where they're going into the interior. They're 2207 01:46:49.079 --> 01:46:52.760 building all this infrastructure, nuclear power, and China's on the 2208 01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:57.279 rise even then under Mao. Then when Mao is when 2209 01:46:57.319 --> 01:47:02.039 Mao dies, Deng Shautink, Deng Shauping takes power. He's like, okay, 2210 01:47:02.079 --> 01:47:07.880 we have all of us the reform and opening up. 2211 01:47:07.920 --> 01:47:11.039 I believe was I can look died real quick. I'm 2212 01:47:11.079 --> 01:47:11.319 not sure. 2213 01:47:11.399 --> 01:47:13.960 You know, I'm pretty sure Mao died in seventy six, 2214 01:47:14.439 --> 01:47:17.479 but I would think but the reform and opening up 2215 01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:19.079 I believe was seventy nine. 2216 01:47:19.319 --> 01:47:20.079 Was that with Nixon? 2217 01:47:20.840 --> 01:47:27.119 No, that was before before. Yeah, But anyway, Uh, I 2218 01:47:27.119 --> 01:47:28.600 didn't get any sleep last night, so I'm kind of 2219 01:47:28.680 --> 01:47:30.720 maybe the dates I'm getting wrong or something. 2220 01:47:31.319 --> 01:47:33.399 Uh it's a close time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know 2221 01:47:33.479 --> 01:47:34.439 that's the right time for them. 2222 01:47:35.159 --> 01:47:40.399 But anyway, Uh, Deng Shaoping inherits this nation that has 2223 01:47:40.479 --> 01:47:45.560 a lot of infrastructure and a lot of factories and 2224 01:47:45.680 --> 01:47:50.159 a lot of like like organized labor, right that's just 2225 01:47:50.239 --> 01:47:54.119 already there. And his reforms that were market oriented drew 2226 01:47:54.279 --> 01:47:58.399 upon the thing created by Mao as a foundation. Hydro 2227 01:47:58.520 --> 01:48:02.279 electric power, irrigation works that were created under the Great 2228 01:48:02.319 --> 01:48:05.239 Lead Forward. All this common infrastructure that was created under 2229 01:48:05.319 --> 01:48:09.479 Mao Dengshallping allowed people to tap in and utilize and 2230 01:48:09.720 --> 01:48:12.079 attached to the world market. And that's why to this 2231 01:48:12.239 --> 01:48:16.199 day China is prospering. So China owes a profound debt 2232 01:48:16.520 --> 01:48:20.119 to Mao because he created the national industrial system, set it. 2233 01:48:20.159 --> 01:48:22.119 Out of because it was basically just like villages. 2234 01:48:22.279 --> 01:48:25.399 There was exactly because before then they had nothing. Mao 2235 01:48:25.520 --> 01:48:29.800 created this giant national industrial system that once it got 2236 01:48:29.880 --> 01:48:32.560 to a certain level, Dengshaoping was like, Okay, now we 2237 01:48:32.640 --> 01:48:36.239 can make it more dynamic and adaptable, because you know, 2238 01:48:36.279 --> 01:48:38.239 if you're a peasant at a village level, you can 2239 01:48:38.359 --> 01:48:42.039 draw from the things created by Mao more individually, like 2240 01:48:42.119 --> 01:48:44.039 at the household level. But you could just take it 2241 01:48:44.079 --> 01:48:46.079 for granted. Now you have the irrigation, you have the 2242 01:48:46.119 --> 01:48:47.840 access to electricity. 2243 01:48:47.319 --> 01:48:48.960 To infrastructure, and do anything without that. 2244 01:48:49.840 --> 01:48:52.760 Exactly when you just have like in Africa for example, 2245 01:48:52.760 --> 01:48:54.399 when you just have a bunch of villages or something, 2246 01:48:54.960 --> 01:48:57.760 and then the IMF says, okay, make these market reforms 2247 01:48:57.800 --> 01:48:59.760 and become a free market society. What are people going 2248 01:48:59.800 --> 01:49:01.760 to do? Ye're you're sitting in a village somewhere. 2249 01:49:02.199 --> 01:49:03.479 He was going to take the money, I feel they 2250 01:49:03.479 --> 01:49:03.880 hand it to you. 2251 01:49:04.119 --> 01:49:05.640 Exact what are you going to tap into. You don't 2252 01:49:05.680 --> 01:49:08.399 have any domestic production, you don't have an industrial system, 2253 01:49:08.439 --> 01:49:12.239 you don't have common infrastructure, whole systems. Sometimes they don't 2254 01:49:12.279 --> 01:49:12.800 have roads. 2255 01:49:13.239 --> 01:49:16.159 Yeah, so haven't you do anything? Well? Coffee not a communist, 2256 01:49:16.479 --> 01:49:18.560 but he didn't he do give a lot back. He 2257 01:49:18.640 --> 01:49:19.439 built all this infaty. 2258 01:49:19.840 --> 01:49:25.039 He he was a socialist. Actually he had a socialistic vision. Yeah, 2259 01:49:25.079 --> 01:49:28.399 we destroyed it. Yeah basically. And I actually, you think 2260 01:49:28.399 --> 01:49:30.439 about the countries we're at war with and we have 2261 01:49:30.560 --> 01:49:34.199 problems with, they're either communists or they're socialists of some kind. 2262 01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:37.880 Even Iran doesn't call itself communists, but Iran is pretty socialistic. 2263 01:49:38.039 --> 01:49:40.640 You know, the IRGC is in firm control of most 2264 01:49:40.680 --> 01:49:43.960 of the means of production within Iran. Iran. They own 2265 01:49:44.000 --> 01:49:46.560 their oil, they own their gas, they own their natural resources. 2266 01:49:47.039 --> 01:49:49.039 And it's like you have these two competing visions of 2267 01:49:49.079 --> 01:49:53.039 human development, debt based on IMF loans and following the 2268 01:49:53.079 --> 01:49:56.680 model that we have here basically, which has only worked 2269 01:49:56.720 --> 01:50:00.840 out for for countries we have artificial propped up but 2270 01:50:00.920 --> 01:50:03.680 the Marshall Plan. Yeah, so what Western Europe does pretty well, 2271 01:50:03.920 --> 01:50:06.239 South Korea does pretty well, Japan does pretty well. But 2272 01:50:06.359 --> 01:50:09.920 we created South Korea and Japan. We gave them all 2273 01:50:10.000 --> 01:50:12.560 this free stuff in capital because the whole point was 2274 01:50:13.239 --> 01:50:15.399 we were like, we want to artificially prop up these 2275 01:50:15.439 --> 01:50:17.359 countries who wanted to look like they were booming in 2276 01:50:17.479 --> 01:50:19.760 to be better than communism. Yeah, because we want the 2277 01:50:19.840 --> 01:50:21.359 South to be better than the North. We want West 2278 01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:23.199 Germany to be better than East Germany. That was a 2279 01:50:23.239 --> 01:50:26.760 Marshall plan. The countries that were not the beneficiary of 2280 01:50:26.760 --> 01:50:28.760 the Marshall plants majority of the world, majority of the 2281 01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:32.560 world that lives under capitalism doesn't prosper right, it's only 2282 01:50:32.640 --> 01:50:35.319 the ones that we use socialistic subsidies. 2283 01:50:35.600 --> 01:50:38.319 Definitely problems. I mean there is You can't make the 2284 01:50:38.439 --> 01:50:41.640 argument though that America is the easiest country to get 2285 01:50:41.880 --> 01:50:45.319 fairly wealthy. Maybe not like these billionaires, but you're I 2286 01:50:45.359 --> 01:50:47.760 think there are still positive but it's getting harder in America. 2287 01:50:48.279 --> 01:50:49.000 It's getting harder. 2288 01:50:49.119 --> 01:50:51.399 We definitely agree on that. It's getting harder to agree. 2289 01:50:51.479 --> 01:50:53.680 It's getting harder to buy a home, it's getting harder 2290 01:50:53.760 --> 01:50:57.119 to like the fun things are on the decline. And 2291 01:50:57.199 --> 01:50:59.239 it's like, we made a lot of excellent points. That's 2292 01:50:59.239 --> 01:51:01.079 why I'm not saying to debate you and some of 2293 01:51:01.119 --> 01:51:03.199 these things. I understand someone I want someone to debate you. 2294 01:51:03.279 --> 01:51:05.800 People didn't want to step forwards to debate communism because 2295 01:51:05.800 --> 01:51:07.279 it's like, I agree a lot of what you said, 2296 01:51:07.279 --> 01:51:07.960 and it's like, no. 2297 01:51:08.000 --> 01:51:10.680 I mean, I'm to be clear, like I'm just expressing 2298 01:51:10.720 --> 01:51:12.800 my opinion. Yeah, you know, we all have different points 2299 01:51:12.840 --> 01:51:13.319 on exactly. 2300 01:51:13.399 --> 01:51:15.399 That's why I figure to be stupid people or probably 2301 01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:17.159 mad you're in debate, but I'm not here to you know, 2302 01:51:17.319 --> 01:51:19.039 I don't know. I'm trying to figure out your perspective. 2303 01:51:19.039 --> 01:51:21.560 I want to hear you explain it out, I think people. Yeah, 2304 01:51:21.600 --> 01:51:22.319 it's it's so weird. 2305 01:51:22.399 --> 01:51:24.439 How like, just because I'm saying this on your podcast, 2306 01:51:24.520 --> 01:51:26.199 people will probably try to attack me and be like, 2307 01:51:26.359 --> 01:51:28.720 for sure, oh that means you agree with everything he's saying. 2308 01:51:28.800 --> 01:51:30.920 And this is like one for one year view and it's. 2309 01:51:31.000 --> 01:51:33.039 Hardly pushed back. It's like, I just wanted to hear 2310 01:51:33.159 --> 01:51:35.359 you explain it and a lot of stuff I haven't 2311 01:51:35.359 --> 01:51:36.560 looked up, And how am I gonna start trying to 2312 01:51:36.600 --> 01:51:38.880 argue with you? And I don't know, Look, I'll be retarded. 2313 01:51:38.960 --> 01:51:40.800 Yeah, I mean. And also it's just like, you know, 2314 01:51:42.000 --> 01:51:44.640 if someone is gonna say that, it's probably because they 2315 01:51:44.800 --> 01:51:48.000 don't have the mental capacity or fortitude to be secure 2316 01:51:48.119 --> 01:51:51.319 enough in their own views. And they you know, they're 2317 01:51:51.399 --> 01:51:54.319 just outraged by it because they themselves feel like they 2318 01:51:54.640 --> 01:51:56.239 like you said, people, you couldn't even find a lot 2319 01:51:56.239 --> 01:51:57.520 of people who wanted to debate me. 2320 01:51:57.800 --> 01:52:00.239 Yeah, people don't say names, but you know, multiple people 2321 01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:02.159 said no after and these are people that do a 2322 01:52:02.199 --> 01:52:04.279 lot of debates. We might be able to have some 2323 01:52:04.399 --> 01:52:06.880 debates online. This guy, Jake Laying might debate you, and 2324 01:52:06.920 --> 01:52:09.800 that'll be great. That would be funny in debates you 2325 01:52:09.840 --> 01:52:11.960 because I was surprised how you said it was gonna 2326 01:52:11.960 --> 01:52:13.479 be harder than I'm like that it's gonna be easier. 2327 01:52:13.560 --> 01:52:16.119 Then that would be a really good in real life 2328 01:52:16.159 --> 01:52:16.720 debate as well. 2329 01:52:16.840 --> 01:52:18.680 That would be hilarious. Yeah, he's pushed a lot of 2330 01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:20.079 Muslim hate too, That's. 2331 01:52:19.960 --> 01:52:23.000 What I mean. Yeah, he has an interesting background. 2332 01:52:23.720 --> 01:52:26.439 Yeah, there's a lot more we talk about than you 2333 01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:27.880 want to add before we rap, because I think it's 2334 01:52:27.920 --> 01:52:29.279 what if people find you I didn't mention that. 2335 01:52:30.600 --> 01:52:33.680 So I have a website Infrared dot gg, you know, 2336 01:52:34.399 --> 01:52:37.760 you know for the American Communist Party. I'm also the 2337 01:52:37.840 --> 01:52:40.000 host of the Infrared Show and Movement. You know, we're 2338 01:52:40.000 --> 01:52:40.640 basically like this. 2339 01:52:40.960 --> 01:52:41.079 Uh. 2340 01:52:42.159 --> 01:52:44.399 The reason you have people like me that are left 2341 01:52:44.439 --> 01:52:48.039 wing that are very much different from you know, your 2342 01:52:48.119 --> 01:52:50.960 average AOC whatever liberals, a lot of it comes from 2343 01:52:50.960 --> 01:52:51.880 the Infrared movement. 2344 01:52:52.079 --> 01:52:52.239 You know. 2345 01:52:53.199 --> 01:52:57.039 We're basically trying to rediscover and learn about Marxism in 2346 01:52:57.079 --> 01:52:59.239 a new age, you know, so we have a fresh 2347 01:52:59.279 --> 01:53:01.520 and new perspective that a lot of people aren't familiar with. 2348 01:53:02.399 --> 01:53:05.960 And then on Twitter, infra has, you know, these are 2349 01:53:06.039 --> 01:53:08.239 the main places you can find me. But anyway, you know, 2350 01:53:08.359 --> 01:53:10.920 to wrap up, I really appreciate the opportunity you gave 2351 01:53:11.000 --> 01:53:14.239 me to have this discussion and just share what my 2352 01:53:14.359 --> 01:53:15.960 views are because there's a lot of people on the 2353 01:53:16.079 --> 01:53:20.319 right who, you know, their response to my existence is oh, 2354 01:53:20.439 --> 01:53:21.239 he should be killed. 2355 01:53:21.720 --> 01:53:23.720 Yeah, they won't even like hear you out. They won't 2356 01:53:23.720 --> 01:53:25.960 even open the mass. They probably won't bet people that 2357 01:53:25.960 --> 01:53:28.319 are mad won't even listen to the interview, probably talk 2358 01:53:28.359 --> 01:53:29.239 to this damn communy. 2359 01:53:29.239 --> 01:53:30.960 They're gonna they're gonna they're gonna see the title and 2360 01:53:31.000 --> 01:53:32.680 make a bunch of assumptions about. 2361 01:53:32.720 --> 01:53:35.000 Yeah, like when I just want to hear other perspectives 2362 01:53:35.000 --> 01:53:37.520 because I realized we've been lied to about everything, So 2363 01:53:37.680 --> 01:53:40.199 let's just start having commed all sorts of perspective. 2364 01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:43.640 There's people who have very right wing perspectives. There's people 2365 01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:48.119 who are libertarians, there's people who have liberal perspective. It's like, okay, well, 2366 01:53:48.359 --> 01:53:51.000 if we're a true Americans, why what's wrong with hearing 2367 01:53:51.039 --> 01:53:52.039 a communist perspective. 2368 01:53:52.119 --> 01:53:53.960 No, we need to reach across and even I was 2369 01:53:54.000 --> 01:53:57.359 on the phone with Sean King, you remember him from Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, 2370 01:53:57.600 --> 01:53:59.159 I remember making fun of him so bad, and we 2371 01:53:59.239 --> 01:54:02.720 were just talking about like, now we can unite over 2372 01:54:02.960 --> 01:54:04.720 a common good of like, hey, let's try to get 2373 01:54:04.760 --> 01:54:07.680 rid of the Zionis influence. Absolutely, yeah, Like we could 2374 01:54:07.720 --> 01:54:09.720 let the stupid insults we threw at each other go. 2375 01:54:09.960 --> 01:54:12.279 They didn't really mean anything. They was the internet. 2376 01:54:12.359 --> 01:54:16.239 Beef and drama is just not real beneath what it's 2377 01:54:16.279 --> 01:54:20.000 beneath our situation. Our situation is we don't have sovereignty, yeah, 2378 01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:22.039 living under lawlessness more or less. 2379 01:54:22.159 --> 01:54:24.680 We need to drop the whole left versus right, them 2380 01:54:24.800 --> 01:54:25.279 versus us. 2381 01:54:26.079 --> 01:54:28.960 Yeah, we shouldn't accept their definition of left versus right either, 2382 01:54:29.239 --> 01:54:31.920 because who are they to decide that left wing means 2383 01:54:31.960 --> 01:54:35.079 you're politically correct, and that right wing means I get 2384 01:54:35.159 --> 01:54:37.279 called right wing? Yeah yeah, because I tell bad jokes 2385 01:54:37.319 --> 01:54:38.920 and use bad words sometimes I don't. 2386 01:54:38.960 --> 01:54:41.560 I don't want trannies reading books to my kids, or 2387 01:54:41.600 --> 01:54:43.760 a man dress as a woman. So I'm right wing. 2388 01:54:43.720 --> 01:54:46.760 Because and then you keep telling people they're hitler because 2389 01:54:47.319 --> 01:54:50.199 they have specific views about their family and stuff like that, 2390 01:54:50.279 --> 01:54:52.520 which I think are reasonable, that you want your kids 2391 01:54:52.560 --> 01:54:53.760 to be raised a certain way. 2392 01:54:54.079 --> 01:54:54.840 It works brilliantly. 2393 01:54:54.880 --> 01:54:57.199 You keep getting called a Nazi. A Nazi. Well, some 2394 01:54:57.359 --> 01:55:00.920 people who may not originally know about a lot, maybe 2395 01:55:00.960 --> 01:55:03.239 they'll just say, sure, let me look, that's what I mean. 2396 01:55:04.920 --> 01:55:06.760 So brilliantly. So I just started being like, sure, I'm 2397 01:55:06.840 --> 01:55:10.800 right wing because I didn't want trannies. But that's that's 2398 01:55:10.840 --> 01:55:12.119 not really left versus right. 2399 01:55:12.319 --> 01:55:14.479 That's what I mean. It's like, maybe maybe that might 2400 01:55:14.560 --> 01:55:17.079 not be ultimately what your position. 2401 01:55:16.960 --> 01:55:19.359 Pro free speech, anti war right. That was the left 2402 01:55:19.359 --> 01:55:21.439 and it was the right, I mean party. 2403 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:24.000 I'll say something crazy, you ask me you are more 2404 01:55:24.079 --> 01:55:28.079 left wing than aoc is, possibly because if you're anti 2405 01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:31.840 war and you're basically I guess true the warmongers in power, 2406 01:55:32.479 --> 01:55:34.399 you are more revolutionary. 2407 01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:35.159 And I don't think we should take corporate money. 2408 01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:36.520 Yeah, and she does. 2409 01:55:36.720 --> 01:55:39.159 What's that guy's navigating in New York. He's such a clown. 2410 01:55:41.479 --> 01:55:44.239 And he's yeah, he's he's just given a bad name 2411 01:55:44.319 --> 01:55:46.399 to all of us because he's a Zionist. I don't 2412 01:55:46.399 --> 01:55:46.960 know if you know that. 2413 01:55:47.399 --> 01:55:49.479 I think it does. His bomb have ties to something 2414 01:55:51.079 --> 01:55:53.520 something that I don't know details behind that, but there 2415 01:55:53.560 --> 01:55:54.479 are shills. 2416 01:55:54.359 --> 01:55:56.359 Of the Democrats, shills with the Republicans. 2417 01:55:56.560 --> 01:55:59.560 He's so obviously just propped up, Like, isn't it. 2418 01:55:59.600 --> 01:56:01.880 The most brilliant thing in the world that the capitalist 2419 01:56:01.960 --> 01:56:04.560 class has made the left wing the opposite of the 2420 01:56:04.600 --> 01:56:05.159 working class. 2421 01:56:06.000 --> 01:56:07.239 No, it's it's really brilliant. 2422 01:56:07.359 --> 01:56:09.960 And they made the right wing popular among the working class. 2423 01:56:10.359 --> 01:56:12.279 They did, and it's like like the ure, like the 2424 01:56:12.319 --> 01:56:15.520 working class guys, and they're brilliant. Like occupy Why Wall Street, 2425 01:56:15.600 --> 01:56:18.000 like we mentioned earlier, is a perfect example. How people 2426 01:56:18.039 --> 01:56:20.680 started being like, wait, they screwed us. Then they started 2427 01:56:20.720 --> 01:56:22.760 pushing the that's the media started pushing the race and the. 2428 01:56:23.159 --> 01:56:24.520 Race stuff, the identity stuff. 2429 01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:28.039 Oh it's black versus white, not the rich versus the poor. 2430 01:56:28.800 --> 01:56:30.880 And then people fell for a hook line and syncrew. 2431 01:56:30.960 --> 01:56:32.680 No, they really did. Hey, thanks so much. That was good. 2432 01:56:32.800 --> 01:56:34.880 Appreciate it as many of you. Now I have many 2433 01:56:34.960 --> 01:56:37.079 controversial guests, so that comes at the cost of being 2434 01:56:37.119 --> 01:56:40.079 demonetized everywhere. 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