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Dogmanencounters dot com Forward Slash podcast. Hey everyone, thanks so

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much for joining us for another episode of Dogman Encounters Radio.

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Really appreciate it. Before we start tonight's show, I've got

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some sad news I want to share with you. It

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was brought to my attention that recently, unfortunately Cody Laughingwolf,

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who has featured on a couple of episodes Away Back,

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he's the guest where it came to my attention that

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he had fabricated his encounters. Well, unfortunately, I found out

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that he passed away apparently, so he's no longer with us.

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I realized that a lot of you listening to the

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show had some bitter feelings towards him because of him

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hoasting his encounters. But we need to make sure we

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never forget that he still was a human being. And

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it's hard to say why he faked those encounters. Maybe

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it's because he was in a bad place in his life.

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That much I do know, maybe that's why he faked

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those encounters. I really don't know. But even though he

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did that still, I mean, you have to feel for

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the man. I hate the fact that he has passed.

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I just wanted to put that out there for you.

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Moving on to tonight's guest, Chris. A lot of people

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ask me about encounters happening in this place or that place. Vic,

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I haven't heard about encounters happening in this state all

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that often. Do you get many from that area. Well,

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tonight's guest, one of the biggest reasons why he decided

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to come on is because he hadn't heard about many,

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or hardly any dogged me in encounters happening in Indiana. Well,

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that's where his happened, pretty close to Warsaw, a town

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called Warsaw there in Indiana. He wanted to get the

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word out for other people in the state who might

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have had the same mindset that he had. They had encounters,

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and they're starting to wonder themselves, do encounters happen here? Well,

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without any further Ado, let's bring him in here now. Chris,

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Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 1: Hi, Vic, Thank you very much, man.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you be here. Well, it's great having you here.

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Thank you for your time. Chris. Please give us a

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brief bio in yourself.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm originally from Costiasco, Indiana. I was born, born, born,

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and raised there. That's the same county that I had

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this encounter. And I've my first memory and all my

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fondest memories has been in the woods with my father,

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big farm family.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I fish, I mean, I breathe at outdoors, and so

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I've just you know, I've never had experience like I

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I'm going to talk about tonight. It's just so surreal,

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you know, And I'm really glad to tell my story.

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Speaker 2: Well it goes with that saying I'm glad to give

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you a platform to do it, to share it. So yeah,

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that's a win win in both cases. Chris, you just

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mentioned the woods and how your dad used to take

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you out. The first time we spoke, you told me

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that you've been in the woods your whole life. What's

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the most frightening thing though, that's ever happened to you

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out there that wasn't dog man related.

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Speaker 1: Well, actually, me and my little brother who's up in

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there's a ski resort in Michigan and I can't I

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can't quite remember the county. It's just right over the

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state line though, and there's a bunch of publican property

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runner and I went in there one night, And this

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is sort of weird because I've never gotten lost in

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the woods, and I've never been scared about being lost

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in the woods. And I was probably the third or

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thirty years old at the time, and I went back

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bow hunting and I came out of the woods, I

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got turned around and almost felt like something was chasing

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me or following me, and it really freaked me out,

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and I had just running in a big circle. And finally,

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after two hours, I got to the truck. And that's

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really the only thing that I've ever seen or felt

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out hunting weird.

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Speaker 2: Well, wasn't there another time when you were fifteen when

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you had something really frightening when you and your brother

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Okay, so this is this is even a

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little harder to talk about than the other because I

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just I don't even know how to categorize this one. Now.

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I'll let your guests just go that me and my

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brother Russell, we was inside and we heard we had

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we raised labs, we had a kennel. We had a

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big golden lad named Dusty, just big big boy couldn't

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even fit into the dog outse he's so big, had

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like a basketball. Anyways, he was going off. So we

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got to twenty two and we walked back there. You know,

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we're fifteen years old, and we kick on the flood

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light and the yard drops down into a bit swamp.

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that it's on, it's got to be about twenty feet

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up in the air, sort of standing there and I

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don't know, twenty five feet in front of us. Something

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stuck its head out from around the tree, and like

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that lady on X men, its skin actually like moved

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and became texture like the tree in the same color.

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looked like someone filed its teeth, and I'm like, what

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is this? And it's I don't know, i'd say probably

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four foot tall. Its head was maybe like a baby size.

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an amber and amber slits and had pointed ears and

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the teeth I verly remember so, and it just sort

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of smiled and blinked at us, and we turned the

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run and it ran and we went inside, backed up

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against the walls, got the dog in, got the gun

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towards the door, and that was the last we ever

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heard of scene of that. But I don't even know

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what to say about that, you know, Goblin, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's hard to know what to say about that other

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than hopefully you never see something like that again.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, it was scary. I mean, it scared me more

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than the dog man.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can understand why that's freaky. Not put the

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freakin lotion in the basket kind of freaky. But yeah,

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it's a different kind of freaky. It's not good.

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Speaker 1: At all, you know it. I'll tell you that kind

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of experience right there would make somebody second guess going

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in the woods?

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Speaker 2: Yeah would How long did you have a new woods

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policy after that experience?

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Speaker 1: Didn't? Didn't? You know what I mean? I was young,

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I was you know, nothing can hurt me. I'm invincible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're fifteen, you definitely are, at least you

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think you are. So I get it. I do. Like

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we've already established, your encounter happened close to Warsaw, Indiana.

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What can you tell us about the place.

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Speaker 1: Very quiet community, you know a lot of good fishing,

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I guess when I think of the back there, that's

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all I think about. It's all good fishing because that's

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what I love to do. Uh, good deer hunting.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: Right now that that county where that state's ranked number

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one of boon and crocket entries. So they got a

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real good, healthy gear population. So that's you know, I

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did a lot of hunting. It's a very Uh they're

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a peaceful place. It can be a lot of beautiful lakes.

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Speaker 2: Well, it does sound like a beautiful place, nice and

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laid back with all the country. Yeah, I like that band.

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That's great. You weren't alone when you had your dog

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me in the encounter. You had a friend with you.

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What can you tell us about him?

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Speaker 1: His name was Dave, very good friend of mine and

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knowing for a long time, I actually got him into

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hunting and fishing. You know. He was just a gung

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ho guy, you know, very smart. I mean probably with

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smart guys, I've ever met a good guy. You know.

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Just if I was going hundred fishing, he wanted to

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be there and would be part of it. He loved

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everything about it and he was just say buck, we

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just really enjoyed hunting, you know, being together out now doors.

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Speaker 2: It's always good to have a good friend like that,

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especially growing up. It really is. When you two had

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that encounter, you just knew that it was a were

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wolf that you're looking at. What's it like to see

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what you think as a bonafide were wolf? Okay, okay,

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without giving us the details of your encounter yet.

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Speaker 1: Okay, okay. I I didn't never heard the term dog

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man coined until I started listening to your podcast, because

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I got a dog inside laying on my bed, and

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that's a dog. What I've seen is more like a

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wolf monster, you know what I mean to me, I

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don't see dog in it. It's got dog features, but

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it don't behave like a dog.

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Speaker 2: No, they don't. Well, in some ways they kind of do.

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But yeah, there is definitely a clear difference between the two.

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There's no denying that. All right, Chris, please tell us

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about this encounter. Now, give us every last detail that

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comes to mind.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, okay, it was, I believe it was. I think

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it was in November ninety nine. It was either in November,

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like the being a December. You know, me and my

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buddies out driving around, were just looking to see if

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we could see some coyotes, you know, out of the country,

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just messing around, nothing serious. And uh, we was coming

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up to a tee and I was driving and coming

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to a stop sign, and I would turn right real

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slow and then turn left so I could sweep my

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headlights out across the field, you know, So we would

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have to be shining around with the light and bothering people,

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you know, or scaring somebody or thinking we're out there

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doing something wrong. So we just use the headlights. Well,

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in the process of doing this, I stopped about maybe

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a third of the way through the turn because about

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thirty five yards in front of us, walking at a

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pretty good steady gait, you know, didn't even seem like

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we were on the same planet. It didn't pay attention

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to us was who probably eight and a half feet.

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All day long, I could see its claws. Its claws

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look like not like black stilettos. It's haunches. Like your

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other guest said, we're like weird. Didn't have a tail

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that I seen. It almost looked like imagine putting a

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dog face on the front of the Batman mask. That's

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what it looked like. It went from its shoulders, the

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trap muscle straight to the bottom of his ears, so

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like it had no neck. It was just all muscle.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it did after you laid eyes on it.

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Speaker 1: Do we just I mean, we're sitting here like, you know,

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what are we looking at? And my buddies like, Chris,

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what is this? I'm like, well, I know what it

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isn't but I you know, like I said, say, saying

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it out loud would have made it more real. You know,

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we still didn't even know if what we were seeing

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was real. But there's no denying what was standing there.

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we did have firearms with us, you know, at a

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twelve gage in three away, which in my mind, you know,

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at the angle it was, if it would have threatened us,

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I feel maybe now, I feel maybe I might be

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able to protect us. But then didn't even like, not

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even a fraction come into my mind to grab a gun,

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you know what I mean, that was the last thing

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on my mind. I was still trying to process what

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was going on.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you were. After it left your site?

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Where did you go? Who did you tell?

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Speaker 1: See? I was thinking earlier about that, you know what

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the road yet in front of us, you know what

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I mean, So when I would cross, it's still been

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out the passenger's side coming that way. I really don't

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remember the drive from there to my cousin's house, which

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I kicked his door and beating it down so bad.

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I was like, let me in. I need to use

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your phone.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that you did need to use it. So you

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country and all of a sudden, this weird wolf looking

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thing comes into view in front of you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just right there. Yeah, I don't know

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where I Okay, I've never never heard of anybody else

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that I know of, you know what I mean. And

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I'm into this kind of stuff, you know, more UFOs,

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But I've never heard of anybody seen anything like this,

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you know what I mean. And as much hours as

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I have in the woods and on the water, if

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anybody's can see something like this, it would you know,

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it'd be a chance it'd be somebody like me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the luck of the draw. You never asked

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to have that experience. It just happened. I guess you

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two were in the wrong place at the right time,

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or maybe the right place at the wrong time. It's

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hard to say, but you're cruising down the road in

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the country with Dave. All of a sudden, this wirlolf

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looking monster comes into view. It's walking along doing this thing.

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As you went past it, how close was it to

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the car?

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Speaker 1: You know what? At that point, I was just trying

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to get out of there. I would say maybe twenty

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yards from the road, because we followed with the headlights

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for sixty sixty five yards, you know what I mean.

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It might even been like parallel road to an extent.

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I don't know. I didn't want to leave. I remember that.

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I just kept wanting. I was hrawed. I was like, wow, man,

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you know, because it didn't seem scary to me. You know,

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maybe it's a false sense of security me being in

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a car and having firearms at our reach. But I

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just didn't feel threatened at all, you know, I just

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wanted to say, like I was, I wanted to know

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what I was looking at.

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Speaker 2: I still do you say that you didn't feel threatened,

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But after you went past it, you told me that

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it did something that did make you feel threatened.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I my buddy might have seen. I was. I

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had my eyes on the road. I don't I don't

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know where it crossed. I don't. You know, it's really

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it's not much. But I sent you that the you

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know the GPS where it was. If you take a

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look around that area, there's not many woods, there's a few,

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you know. I was just really really scared that, you know,

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this seemed to get hold of some of his children,

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because I don't think this thing's eating mulberries.

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Speaker 2: No, definitely an obligate carnivore. So it's not eating maulberries,

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that's for sure. But the first time we spoke about

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your encounter, you told me it came after you after

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you went past it.

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Speaker 1: No, I I don't remember it ever coming after me. Actually,

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if I said that, then I must have been misremembering that.

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I'm sitting here thinking now when I took the headlights

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off of it. That was the last I saw of it. Now,

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my buddy might have been keeping an eye on it more,

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but he it scared him a lot more than it

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did me. He was freaking out. Yeah, last time I

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seen it, it didn't even look at us. It didn't,

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Like I said, I had a full on from its

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left shoulder looking to it's right you know. So I

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don't know. I really, I don't know what it did.

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When I took the lights off of it. I was

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just trying to get out of there.

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Speaker 2: Huh. I see you told me that it chased the car,

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that it came after you guys.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I think I was talking about it one

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of the shows I was watching of yours where one

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came out and grabbed in front of some of these

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vehicle and slowed them down.

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Speaker 2: No, that was episode one ninety with Brandon Close. Now,

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when we spoke, you said that it actually came after

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your car that you and Dave were in. So I

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was a little confused by that.

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Speaker 1: No, No, no, it didn't come after us, not not

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that I've seen it didn't. No, it just ignored us.

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It didn't even look at us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, good, Well that's a lot better than nor Turner.

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Then it definitely. Yes. Yeah, from what I understand, you

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suppressed the memory of that encounter for years. How long

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was it that you suppressed the memories and what jarred

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your memories to come back?

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Speaker 1: Twenty five years? I don't know. I guess that that's

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maybe that's my way of dealing with a traumatic experience,

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you know what I mean. It's just like my brain

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just says, Hey, we're gonna put this in the cabinet

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and we're gonna put a key on it. It never happened,

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you know. I was setting on my mom's couch just

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talking and all of a sudden, I just had this.

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It was like a dream, and I'm like it just

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hit me. And I'm like, wait a minute, why am

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I thinking about this, you know what I mean? And

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the more I thought about it, details, details, details, and

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I'm like, wha hold on. I got I got a

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message my buddy, and so I found a dog man

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or wolf or wolf whatever, and I screenshot it and

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send in the picture. I said, they please tell me

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that we did or did not run into this one night.

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He said, Chris, we absolutely did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Sorry, oh no, I apologize for interrupting you. It

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would have been nice if he wouldn't have confirmed that

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it happened, because it would have been a dream then possibly.

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But yeah, you don't. You don't hallucinate with other people.

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Speaker 1: So that's a major point I'm I'm standing on right now.

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Like you know what I mean, we we hadn't even

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had a beer or nothing that not, you know what

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I mean. I don't even smoked cigarettes, so I mean what,

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there's no way. Yeah, we were seeing the same thing.

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We were not hallucinating. That's a fact.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness for that. When you saw the dog Man,

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how would you describe its posture? Some of these guys

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are leaning over so far that you're surprised, or not

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using their hands to knuckle walk or do it almost flat.

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Speaker 1: It almost seemed like that, you know how Gorilla dragged

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his hands, that's about you know what I mean. It

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was walking sort of that way, but it had more

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of a meaningful walk to it, not like could just

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meaner and around, you know, it had it was going somewhere,

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and it was going It was like a missile locked on.

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So I don't know if it's going to hunt what

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it was doing. But like I said, it was in

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the crp grass and if I was to go out there,

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it'd be up to my knee, and that grass just

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barely covered its feet. That's the only thing I didn't

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see was its feet. It. Yeah, the muscles on it,

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that's that. That's what really sticks on my mind. This

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scene looked like you took the best linebacker and just

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threw ten of them at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a neat footter. That's pretty big. It's gonna that

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grass is going to hit it a lot differently than

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it hits you, So I get it. I do just

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some clear for clarity on this. Was it on all

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fours as it was moving or too, but just leaning forward?

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Speaker 1: Never did I see it going all fours it was.

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It was just a steady It's arms didn't like you said,

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like I heard the other people described, They didn't really

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you know, swing back and forth. They sort of just

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were hanging it right in front of it. And its

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forearms are definitely longer, you know. Then it it looked

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like it could have touched his heels out bending over,

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you know, leaning over, But if like from the elbow

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to the shoulder seemed normal. Other than you know what

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I mean, it was massive and.

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Speaker 2: You said his hands were really close to the ground

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as it was moving.

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Speaker 1: They were that he would swing them up just enough

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to where I could see the I mean, that's another

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thing to really freaking out. Was the claws I could.

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I mean, wow, they were I don't know, I'm looking,

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I'm thinking of a grizzly claw, but then they're they're

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a lot. Yeah, grizzly clau doing have nothing on these things.

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They were like stilettos. And I could see the headlights

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shining off of them.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if that doesn't get your motor run and

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nothing and will. How long would you say those claws were.

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Speaker 1: At least four inches? There's long. They were long as

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my fingers all day. They probably longer than that.

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Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, that's pretty long. Not going to give you

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the warm and fuzzies, Chris. I've got that photo posted

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now that you sent me that shows the location where

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that encounter happened. What more can you tell us about

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this picture of where it happened.

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Speaker 1: It's just really I mean it's nice down there. Nice

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and Peace Wars a really nice golf course down there.

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I have a friend of mine and his wife and

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their children bought a place right I mean right now

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by there. None of these people back home know about this,

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you know what I mean, my friends and stuff, my family,

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they're just not find out tonight, you know, this story.

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And it's really really surprising them, you know what I mean.

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But they all they're like one hundre percent. You know,

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they said, Chris, you've seen it. I believe you, you

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know what I mean, they have no doubt about that. Yeah,

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but in the area, that's what really surprised me. It's like, man,

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that's what the that's what really scared me, because there's

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a lot of children around that area, you know what

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I mean, a big lake beach, and I'm like, man,

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how could this sing with all the trail cams people

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got out go unnoticed. It's impossible someone else had to

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have seen this thing.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure they did. Yeah, more people than you'd

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ever believe have encounters with these things, but for the

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obvious reasons, they just don't normally come forward to put

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it out there that they had the experience. Yeah, you know, people,

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I've got no doubts that you know, people have had encounters,

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but you don't know they had those encounters because they

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just kept it under wraps.

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Speaker 1: You know, when it comes to something like that, you know,

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something weird like that could ruin reputation, make people look

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at you like, you know, men, you ain't built right,

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not rapture tight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. But society is kind of warming

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up to the whole sasquatch phenomenon. Maybe in time they're

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going to warm up more to the whole dogma phenomenon.

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It's hard to say. I guess it's kind of doubtful

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when you consider how dog men are. But I guess

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anything's impossible, and time will.

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Speaker 1: Tell it will It would take a nice dozen roses

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to make that thing warm up to you.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sure it would more than that. Dave's a

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preacher now, But was he a preacher back when this?

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Speaker 1: I take that back.

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Speaker 2: He was your age, so he would have been too young.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, at the time he wasn't, you know what

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I mean. But now he is, you know, he's getting

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older in his days and stuff. Yeah, he did. He

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had he preached to a church. You know. Dave's just

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he's just a good guy. He's been a real good

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friend to me. You know, I took talked him, took

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him gear hund to get his first deer took a

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musky fishing cars first musky. He's just he's the kind

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of guy. He's type a personality you know you want

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to be around him. He's a good person, just a

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genuine good guy doing before you.

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Speaker 2: He does sound like a great friend to have, he

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really does. Having an encounter with a dog man Chris

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can drive people closer to God. I'm not saying that's

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what happened to Dave and that's why he's a preacher,

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but do you think that might be the case.

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Speaker 1: Without asking him, I really don't know, you know, it's

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just conjecture. I guess I talked to him a little

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bit about it. LA's last, you know, last summer or summer before,

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and he's like he's he's telling his wife, who's just

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got with you know about it, and he's like, I

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got chick chick when you say chicken arms chickens got

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the bumps on him. He was, Yeah, he was freaking

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out about it, but I mean his confirmation once he

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said yeah, it's just my brain said, okay, cabin's open

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there at all? Is you can have it back? It

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really blew my mind to how I could forget something

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like that happened, like or make me forget it. I

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don't know, because I really wasn't scared.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the mind works in strange ways, so it's hard.

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It's you really never do know how you're going to

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respond to an experience, especially a traumatic one. So yeah,

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how you do that's anyone's guess. From what I understand,

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you didn't tell your appearents about that encounter until what

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00:25:13,759 --> 00:25:16,480
two three days ago? You told quite a few people

472
00:25:16,519 --> 00:25:19,359
about having that experience, But why didn't you tell your

473
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,279
parents until just recently.

474
00:25:22,519 --> 00:25:25,640
Speaker 1: Well about two summers ago, when I talked to my buddy.

475
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,480
My mom heard a little bit of the conversation, but she,

476
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:29,200
you know, she probably thought we was just talking about

477
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,880
something else, and she really had to pay much attention

478
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240
about it. But I set her down today until you know,

479
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,799
I said, Mom, you know, I'm and tell you the story.

480
00:25:35,839 --> 00:25:39,880
And she would she don't even question question me. She knows,

481
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,759
She said, Chris, if you say that and God believe

482
00:25:41,799 --> 00:25:45,319
that happened, you know, And I just didn't. You know,

483
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,880
I don't need anybody to validate me, you know, I just,

484
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,039
you know, what if it makes me feel better to,

485
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,839
you know, have my mom's support. You know. Uh, I've

486
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,680
talked to a few friends. They're probably listening right now,

487
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:58,720
you know. I said, you guys might want to check

488
00:25:58,759 --> 00:26:01,279
this out because I've known these guys all my life

489
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:03,680
and I just haven't talked about this, and it's probably

490
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,880
really surprising a lot of people.

491
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,319
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure it is surprising them. Did you ever

492
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,000
tell your dad about what happened?

493
00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:14,079
Speaker 1: Not until recently?

494
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,400
Speaker 2: No, how did you respond?

495
00:26:18,839 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 1: He's just sort of, you know, didn't doubt it. You know,

496
00:26:21,839 --> 00:26:23,240
my dad as a matter of fact kind of guy.

497
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,599
You know, he showed me everything. I know. If he's

498
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,319
forgotten more than I know about the woods and fishing,

499
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:33,039
he's never right encounter that's anything like that that I

500
00:26:33,079 --> 00:26:34,759
know of. You know.

501
00:26:35,559 --> 00:26:38,200
Speaker 2: Well, it sounds like you've got some really supporting parents.

502
00:26:38,279 --> 00:26:38,799
That's great.

503
00:26:40,839 --> 00:26:43,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're I love my mom and dad and death.

504
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:44,079
My dad's my best friend.

505
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:44,319
Speaker 2: You know.

506
00:26:45,799 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: My very first memory that I can remember is sitting

507
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:49,839
on a back of snowmobile and he's catching fishing. I'm

508
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,160
kicking him back down the whole.

509
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,759
Speaker 2: Huh. Yeah, that's what it's all about, those memories. It's

510
00:26:55,799 --> 00:26:57,920
nothing like spending time in the woods with your dad.

511
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,759
So that's great. One thing I don't understand about all this,

512
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,000
and you never know an experience is going to affect

513
00:27:06,039 --> 00:27:09,559
someone just because this person over here or most people

514
00:27:09,599 --> 00:27:12,480
would respond this way or that way to an experience,

515
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,319
that doesn't mean that everyone is. But one thing I

516
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,839
don't understand. It seems to me after our first conversation

517
00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:22,559
that you're pretty much totally unaffected by having that encounter.

518
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,839
When it comes to you going back into the woods.

519
00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:27,680
You said that you hunt, you do all these things

520
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:31,240
in the woods still to this day without being compromised

521
00:27:31,319 --> 00:27:33,200
one iota. How is that?

522
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,079
Speaker 1: Maybe it's that confidence saying that from my fifteen year

523
00:27:39,079 --> 00:27:41,400
old self stole in my head. I don't know. I

524
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,559
just feel, you know that I'm well aware of my surroundings.

525
00:27:45,559 --> 00:27:48,839
I am where I'm at right now, out out in

526
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,759
the you know, the Dakota's. I do a lot of

527
00:27:51,839 --> 00:27:54,200
night walleye fishing. I mean by myself. I'll be out

528
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,720
on my long out in the middle of nowhere, you know,

529
00:27:56,759 --> 00:27:59,920
and I hear things, you know, and there's montlines around.

530
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:02,279
But I just I don't let him get some you

531
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,160
know what I mean, Because if I'm on foot out

532
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,960
fishing and I d ran into that. It just hands up,

533
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,720
you know, what are you gonna do? So I don't

534
00:28:12,759 --> 00:28:15,359
really let it. It never has bothered me, you know.

535
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,839
Like I said, it wasn't a negative experience. It creates

536
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,359
more questions than I got answers.

537
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,400
Speaker 2: Well, I'm so glad it hasn't kept you out of

538
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,200
the woods and handcuffed your ability to go out and

539
00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,640
enjoy the woods. That's great. A lot of people know

540
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:32,920
that I go on walks in the woods, deep into

541
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,160
the woods and the big woods here where I live,

542
00:28:35,319 --> 00:28:37,440
when I get a chance to sneak away and clear

543
00:28:37,519 --> 00:28:39,920
my head. And I know what's being said about me

544
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,960
being crazy for going out there without anyone else with

545
00:28:43,039 --> 00:28:46,599
me and unarmed. I'm not always unarmed, but most of

546
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,680
the time I am. And I've walked hundreds of miles

547
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:52,319
in the big woods here, and it's I mean, it's

548
00:28:52,359 --> 00:28:56,160
a polity in for sasquatch and dog men. The big

549
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:58,920
woods here could hold an army of dog men, and

550
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,960
an army or army of dog men are a MEAs

551
00:29:02,119 --> 00:29:06,799
of sasquatch and they'd be happy. Plenty of resources, water

552
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,920
and all that. But yeah, I know about dog men.

553
00:29:11,079 --> 00:29:12,960
I know they could be there my brother and I

554
00:29:13,119 --> 00:29:15,680
years ago, we were out there walking and he actually

555
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:18,759
found a sasquatch print. He called me back to it.

556
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,960
I could tell there was something going on. He found

557
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,400
something that really caught his attention, and he wanted me

558
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,400
to come back right now to take a look at

559
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,000
what he had found. So I'm thinking, okay, Well, with

560
00:29:30,079 --> 00:29:32,680
him responding like this, what in the world's going on?

561
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,279
I get back there to where he's standing looking at

562
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:40,079
the ground, and I see this big Sasquatch print. I

563
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720
know that they could very easily be out there. They

564
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:46,440
probably are out there, in fact, but I still go

565
00:29:46,519 --> 00:29:49,119
for walks here. I've been walking in the woods after dark.

566
00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,640
Could they attack me? Yeah, they sure could. But from

567
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,359
what I know about these guys, I know the odds

568
00:29:55,359 --> 00:29:59,039
are very slight that's going to happen because as a group,

569
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,240
as a whole, they're not wired to attack us as

570
00:30:02,279 --> 00:30:05,759
soon as the opportunity presents itself. If that was a case,

571
00:30:05,799 --> 00:30:08,759
I wouldn't have spoken with thousands upon thousands of people

572
00:30:09,039 --> 00:30:11,279
who are caught dead to rights by these things but

573
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,640
allowed to go without a scratch. So what I'm getting

574
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,319
at here is I'm glad that you've adopted the policy

575
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,880
of life goes on. You are living your life. You're

576
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,880
heading back into the woods. You're living your life and

577
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,200
doing the things that you like to do. And that's

578
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,200
how it should be. Now, for the eyewitnesses who are

579
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,440
compromised by their encounters, it's not their fault. It's not

580
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,880
their fault at all. Some encounters are more traumatic than others,

581
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,240
and naturally, if you have a really traumatic one, it's

582
00:30:40,279 --> 00:30:41,960
going to be that much harder to head back into

583
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,960
the woods. But like I'm saying, the main point I'm

584
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,480
trying to make here is I'm just glad that you're

585
00:30:48,519 --> 00:30:51,079
able to still go out and do the things out

586
00:30:51,079 --> 00:30:53,400
there that you've always liked to do. That's my main

587
00:30:53,519 --> 00:30:59,160
point there. How far, well, I'm sorry, Please continue.

588
00:31:00,319 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got you know, because I love the outdoor

589
00:31:03,039 --> 00:31:05,839
so much, you know what I mean. I I couldn't.

590
00:31:06,119 --> 00:31:07,720
I feel like I'm bound down, you know what I mean,

591
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:10,160
till somebody saying bow down for my knees, you know,

592
00:31:11,319 --> 00:31:14,039
to do that, to not go into it. It would

593
00:31:14,039 --> 00:31:15,960
literally take a tank to stop me from doing that.

594
00:31:17,599 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 2: Well, that's good. Hey, you're a young guy. You've got

595
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480
a lot of life left to live. It'd be such

596
00:31:22,519 --> 00:31:24,559
a shame if you couldn't go out and enjoy the

597
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:27,240
things that you've always loved to do. So, yeah, that's

598
00:31:27,359 --> 00:31:30,559
music to my ears. It really is. How far did

599
00:31:30,599 --> 00:31:32,559
that encounter happen from where you live? Now?

600
00:31:34,319 --> 00:31:40,119
Speaker 1: Oh, let's see, I'm in South Dakota, so I think

601
00:31:40,119 --> 00:31:45,599
it's about a thousand miles. Yeah, that's a that's like four.

602
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,559
Speaker 2: That's more than a hop, skip and a jump. It

603
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:53,680
really is. But then again, some people, for example, people

604
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,039
have had encounters in Maine, for example, they freaked out

605
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240
from seeing the dog men. They or this person flew

606
00:32:01,319 --> 00:32:04,279
home to their home somewhere in Florida. I forgot where.

607
00:32:04,599 --> 00:32:07,200
They go out the back door. The next day, bam,

608
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,559
same dog man's there. So you never really know for

609
00:32:10,599 --> 00:32:13,680
sure how far a dog man might follow you. Now,

610
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,079
things like that, that clearly points towards them being a

611
00:32:17,119 --> 00:32:20,319
lot more than just some simple flesh and blood creature

612
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,599
that's out in the woods trying to scratch out a living.

613
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,079
But that doesn't mean that all of them are that way.

614
00:32:25,119 --> 00:32:27,640
It seems like some actually might be flesh and blood,

615
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,400
others might have supernatural elements. I don't know if what

616
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,000
we're talking about here is okay, the ones over here

617
00:32:34,079 --> 00:32:37,519
that seem to be limited by the same laws of

618
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,359
physics that all the rest of us are. Maybe they

619
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,839
were created in a laboratory someplace. And then the other

620
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,759
ones that do have all these special abilities, maybe they

621
00:32:47,799 --> 00:32:51,720
are from the ether. They are supernatural, and that's how

622
00:32:51,759 --> 00:32:54,880
they do these things that they do. They just defy explanation.

623
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,599
But yeah, I'm glad that you've got one thousand miles

624
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,480
between you, or approximate only a thousand miles between you

625
00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:05,119
and where this happened. Although then again, it sounds like

626
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,559
that experience didn't really affect you, so probably doesn't matter

627
00:33:08,599 --> 00:33:09,240
all that much.

628
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: No, not really. You know, I wouldn't be up, you know,

629
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,759
if I've seen another one, hopefully it'd out of a

630
00:33:17,799 --> 00:33:20,799
camera with me, you know. But uh, I just like

631
00:33:21,119 --> 00:33:23,839
he was talking earlier, you know, he's using that analogy

632
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,759
about the horses, you know, and it makes sense, and

633
00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:29,440
these these things definitely have some intelligence to him. They

634
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,839
have to, you know, I mean, there's some there's some

635
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:37,440
kind of comina or what are we called. Uh yeah,

636
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,599
I can't think of the world anyways. Us. There has

637
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,440
to be some kind of us in that thing. The

638
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,319
way it acts, it's either a conscience, something's there besides

639
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:45,880
just a dog.

640
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 2: There might be a human element there. But I think

641
00:33:50,519 --> 00:33:53,680
what's going on here is I think you're confusing the

642
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,559
fact that they've got such a ridiculous amount of intelligence

643
00:33:57,119 --> 00:34:01,039
as them having some kind of definitive of human quality.

644
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:04,839
Maybe they do, maybe they don't. But yeah, there's no

645
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:09,440
denying that their intelligence in some ways might even supersede

646
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,760
our own. It's hard to say for sure about that,

647
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:16,360
but sometimes I really do wonder, I really do. Now,

648
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,559
let's bounce back to something you said just a few

649
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:22,519
moments ago about the horses. I'm sure a lot of

650
00:34:22,559 --> 00:34:25,360
the people are wondering what you meant by that comment.

651
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,960
What Chris is talking about is in our conversation, first conversation,

652
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,079
I told them something about the danger that I think

653
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,239
dog men as a whole normally present to us, trying

654
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:43,039
to hammer home the fact that how dangerous they are

655
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:48,320
is normally really overrated. What I told him was over

656
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,840
the years, I've been doing this since two thousand and seven,

657
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,400
speaking with dogmen eye witnesses. I've spoken with thousands upon

658
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,519
thousands of dog meen eye witnesses about their experiences. Well,

659
00:34:59,079 --> 00:35:01,679
the grand total, like I told him, the grand total

660
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,440
of credible eye witnesses who've ever told me about being

661
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,960
intentionally harmed by a dog man, or is in some

662
00:35:08,039 --> 00:35:11,519
cases the dog men they encountered. The grand total is

663
00:35:11,559 --> 00:35:14,920
seven eight maybe nine credible eye witnesses over the years

664
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:20,599
telling me about an attack. Well, if you look at

665
00:35:20,599 --> 00:35:25,280
that number seven eight maybe nine compared to the pool

666
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:32,280
of I don't know, three four thousand, then yeah, seven

667
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:34,719
eight nine dogman attacks. That's not going to give you

668
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:38,000
the warm and fuzzies. But if you think about the

669
00:35:38,039 --> 00:35:41,400
fact that, okay, out of three thousand, maybe four thousand people,

670
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:45,360
only seven eight maybe nine people were attacked, that right

671
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:49,079
there it says something. If you asked three four thousand

672
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:51,239
people who have had direct interactions with any of the

673
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,880
common animals that we interact with on a daily basis,

674
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,159
and don't think twice about it, Okay, how many of

675
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:00,840
you were actually intentionally harmed by any of those animals,

676
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,280
then you know the number of yeses would be in

677
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:08,760
the hundreds. So that right there it tells us that,

678
00:36:09,119 --> 00:36:12,519
as hard as it is to believe, you're actually less

679
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,360
likely to be harmed by a dog man if you

680
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440
have an encounter, then you are if you interact, if

681
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,519
you have an experience with a common animal that we

682
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,639
take for granted on a daily basis. That's the gist

683
00:36:24,679 --> 00:36:27,039
of what he was referring to when you mentioned the

684
00:36:27,079 --> 00:36:27,639
horse thing.

685
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 1: All the perfect as all the perfect and a oh definitely.

686
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,880
Speaker 2: See, that's the thing that some of the eyewitnesses have

687
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:40,800
trouble with the danger these things normally pose, because yeah,

688
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:42,960
there are a dangerous dogmen out there, just like they're

689
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,360
a dangerous sasquatch, dangerous people, dangerous, you name the critter,

690
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,679
they're dangerous examples. So yeah, I'm never going to say

691
00:36:50,679 --> 00:36:53,800
that there aren't dangerous dogmen, because there are, but the

692
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,440
averages tell us that there are very few and far between.

693
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,199
So that's something that we really need to make sure

694
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,880
sure we don't lose sight of the idea that every

695
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,519
dog me in is going to rip you apart as

696
00:37:04,559 --> 00:37:07,719
soon as the opportunity presents itself. That right there is

697
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,119
why so many eyewitnesses have so much trouble coming to

698
00:37:11,199 --> 00:37:14,760
terms with their experience or experiences. So that's why I

699
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,280
like to really focus on that. Well before we move forward,

700
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,159
I just want to let everyone listening know. If you

701
00:37:20,199 --> 00:37:22,239
have any questions for Chris that you want me to

702
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,599
ask them, please be sure to type them in all

703
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,639
caps in the live chat. If you do that, then

704
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,199
I'll be happy to ask. Moving forward, when you saw

705
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,119
this dog men, Chris, can you remember if its ears

706
00:37:36,119 --> 00:37:37,519
were up or laid back?

707
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: Like I said, overman pincher, but picture the batman mask.

708
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:44,960
You know, his ears go straight up out the side

709
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,400
of his head straight up. Almost looks like an overman pincher,

710
00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:51,679
you know what I mean. They were probably I don't know,

711
00:37:52,039 --> 00:37:54,559
six seven inches long. I didn't see no tips of

712
00:37:54,639 --> 00:37:57,320
for or anything. It had a pretty steady for like

713
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:01,639
the first covering goes. You know, it must not like

714
00:38:02,079 --> 00:38:03,800
just like I've heard on your show. You know, must

715
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,280
not have that much hair. Because you could see the

716
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,280
muscles on his thing, I mean abs in its thighs.

717
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:10,840
It looked like a squad of.

718
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:17,280
Speaker 2: Car Yeah, that's how their muscles normally are. Sounds like

719
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,480
a left an impression on you. It really does. Well.

720
00:38:20,559 --> 00:38:22,480
Let's get to some of these questions from the live

721
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:26,960
chat now. The first one was from Tree and Tree

722
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,320
wants to know what color was is here? Had to

723
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,960
see if.

724
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: Charcoal the claws.

725
00:38:34,039 --> 00:38:37,039
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what she meant by that, but.

726
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Its claws were black. I mean it was night outside,

727
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,000
but they looked pitch black to me, you know what

728
00:38:45,079 --> 00:38:47,400
I mean. Uh, it wasn't raining out, because that's what

729
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,119
I saw of you know, shines when you put a

730
00:38:50,159 --> 00:38:51,840
light on thems wet. That's what it looked like. But

731
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:55,679
it wouldn't wet. They had a steady covering of fur,

732
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,960
like I said, but not too much because I almost

733
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,760
had the brights on, you know, I mean, but like

734
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,119
I said, it was right in front of us. There

735
00:39:02,199 --> 00:39:05,320
was just this thing was walking. I mean, it seemed

736
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,760
pretty determined to be where it was going because it

737
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,760
didn't even pay no mind to us. You know, we

738
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,800
weren't no danger to it.

739
00:39:12,199 --> 00:39:14,280
Speaker 2: We don't thank goodness it did that. Like I said,

740
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,519
it could have been a lot worse. This next one

741
00:39:17,639 --> 00:39:20,760
is from average citizen forty three. They want to know

742
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:23,440
I might have missed this, but did this creature have

743
00:39:23,519 --> 00:39:26,639
digitigrade or plant degrade leg structure.

744
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:33,639
Speaker 1: Like reverse? You know what I mean? Haunches watched the

745
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:38,920
movie Underworld likings in it and how their legs when

746
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:43,199
they morph. That's how it looked, all right. I don't

747
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,159
really know the meanings of the words you said before,

748
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:49,440
but yeah, they were like backwards like haunches. So like

749
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,960
I said, I couldn't see probably from the bottom of

750
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,119
his calf down because of grass.

751
00:39:54,679 --> 00:39:57,639
Speaker 2: Oh sure, yeah, that's understandable. So it sounds like it

752
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,159
definitely had to Jit grade style legs.

753
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: That those would be the move going back it would. Yeah,

754
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:05,519
that's what it was.

755
00:40:06,199 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how most dogmen are, so that doesn't come

756
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:14,480
as a surprise. I've got another one for you from

757
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:20,760
the Truth, and this is just a general question. Please

758
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,320
try to keep the questions just focused on Chris so

759
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:27,079
he can answer them instead of just asking a general question.

760
00:40:27,639 --> 00:40:30,119
But I'm going to take this one here, Chris. The

761
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,800
answer to that is really just a guess. All we

762
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,039
can do is just guess on that. If you think

763
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:40,800
about how many eyewitnesses are allowed to leave the scene

764
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,639
of an encounter without a scratch, I think the numbers

765
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:47,159
would be pretty low probably, But again that's just a guess,

766
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:52,679
so I don't really know. Good question, all right, moving

767
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:56,239
on to the next one. This one is from Tree Again.

768
00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,679
Tree wants to know did Chris see the color of

769
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,440
the dog man's hair, which you answered for us, or

770
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:04,920
if his eyes were glowing.

771
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 1: No, yeah, that's why I never seen its eyes. I didn't.

772
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:11,519
I wish it would have looked at us, you know

773
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:13,880
what I mean, because I'm really curious. I would have been.

774
00:41:14,599 --> 00:41:16,840
I would have liked weird to say this, but I

775
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,840
would like to see whether they were I bet they

776
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,159
were amber right in my mind, I picture in amber eye,

777
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,719
but I would like to see whether I had red

778
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,880
or ido. I don't know. It didn't look at us.

779
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:28,880
That's how I got such a good view of it.

780
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,559
It's canines, its mouth, It's muzzle was massive. It was

781
00:41:32,639 --> 00:41:35,960
just so big. Yeah, No, I didn't see. I didn't

782
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,119
see no eyes. And the hair cover was pretty much

783
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,280
the same all the way over about finger lengths and

784
00:41:41,559 --> 00:41:42,599
like a charcoal black.

785
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:47,320
Speaker 2: Did its first seem to be matted or pretty clean.

786
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:50,400
Speaker 1: And neat, look like you just brushed his hair for

787
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:51,239
it left the house.

788
00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,039
Speaker 2: Well, like you just left the salon. Yeah, some look

789
00:41:55,119 --> 00:41:58,199
that way. Some look nasty. So there's no rhyme nor

790
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,559
reason to it. Well, no more. Fun Land wants to know.

791
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,719
Have you had any other types of pure normal experiences

792
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:07,440
like spotting a UFO or a ghost.

793
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,239
Speaker 1: I will I'll take my camera because ice just smelted

794
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:16,400
on the lakes here, so I'll start doing a lot

795
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,360
more fishing. I will. I will send you some videos

796
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,199
and if you want to put them up on your website.

797
00:42:22,199 --> 00:42:24,199
I will show you some pictures of the UFOs that

798
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,519
they're out here. I've seen some the shape of Merry

799
00:42:27,559 --> 00:42:32,199
go round or like a uh, shoot the thing at

800
00:42:32,199 --> 00:42:34,840
the circus. It's got all the chair that goes up

801
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,400
in a bit Merriwell or Ferris Will there you go,

802
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,760
fairs Will sorry, And it had like five different spots

803
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,639
on it, and I watched it get big and small,

804
00:42:42,679 --> 00:42:45,159
big and small and just totally disappear. Then it came

805
00:42:45,199 --> 00:42:48,000
back and changed the shape ins too, like a tube

806
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,679
I got. I got videos of this stuff. It's crazy.

807
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy things happen like that. And thanks for offering

808
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,199
to send the pictures to me. But I wouldn't want

809
00:42:58,199 --> 00:43:00,480
to put those up on the website. It's just strictly

810
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,159
a dog and a focused website. But like I said,

811
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:07,000
thanks for offering to do that. Nonetheless, I've got another

812
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:11,039
one for you from ash is Antics and they want

813
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:14,119
to know did you feel anything evil from this encounter?

814
00:43:16,719 --> 00:43:23,320
Speaker 1: I really didn't I just it was so hard. I mean,

815
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,920
you see this thing, man, like you said, your whole life,

816
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,480
you know, you're taught these are fairy tales, you know,

817
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:31,920
any real things. And I've always believed that there's a

818
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:33,639
lot more to this world than what we can see.

819
00:43:33,639 --> 00:43:36,199
You know, reality is just a paper thin veil that

820
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,159
it could be easily ripped and stepped through. And you

821
00:43:38,159 --> 00:43:42,000
know it's the way I feel. And I didn't feel

822
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,960
no evil. I did not at all, you know what

823
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:46,400
I mean. Now, had it laid eyes on us, that

824
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,000
might have been a totally different story, you know what

825
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,440
I mean. But if we were just a tree as

826
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,440
far as it was concerned, that's what it's saying. It

827
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,679
did not pay us no mind. That's why I said,

828
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,159
I think I don't know I was going to eat

829
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,760
or if it was going to meet up with another one,

830
00:43:58,960 --> 00:43:59,960
but it had to get there.

831
00:44:02,119 --> 00:44:04,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I won't. Thank goodness, it didn't pay any mind.

832
00:44:04,679 --> 00:44:08,519
I'm sure you'ds alternative. It really does. Tree wants to

833
00:44:08,519 --> 00:44:10,199
know if you ever did see its teeth.

834
00:44:11,559 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely, his teeth were probably as long as my

835
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,280
ring finger. Huge teeth. It's his muzzle, That's what I'm saying.

836
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,840
It's head. Literally, you could set it inside of a

837
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,599
long like a like a lazy board chair. It's had

838
00:44:26,639 --> 00:44:27,320
to be that big.

839
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 2: Well, that's pretty big right there.

840
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:32,519
Speaker 1: It was big.

841
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well some of them do have big heads. That's

842
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,800
just how it goes. For the next question, We've got

843
00:44:40,079 --> 00:44:43,400
Long Island Bigfoot. That's Mike cal Atonio. He's a great guy.

844
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:47,039
He's a dog man researcher. He's a if you haven't

845
00:44:47,119 --> 00:44:50,400
checked out his chiinel on YouTube again, it's called Long

846
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,000
Island Bigfoot, and he spends more time out in the

847
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,920
bushes looking for sasquatching dogmen that you can shake a

848
00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,000
stick at. So, yeah, whatever you find on his chain

849
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:02,360
that he puts out there, he's a real deal. I'm

850
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,880
sure you're gonna like it. Mike wants to know, have

851
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,960
you ever experienced eye glow? Self illuminated? Did not eyeshine

852
00:45:10,199 --> 00:45:12,599
off the ambient light?

853
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:15,159
Speaker 1: I've been deer hunting my whole life, you know what

854
00:45:15,199 --> 00:45:18,239
I mean, I've been a predator hunt. No, I didn't

855
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:21,280
see no eyes at all. No. I can pretty much

856
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,599
tell by what I'm looking at if it's a coon,

857
00:45:23,679 --> 00:45:26,159
it's a cat, coyote, you know what I mean? A deer,

858
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,119
a dog. They all got different just tints to their eyes.

859
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,280
And you move seem enough you'll know. And but like

860
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,760
I said, I wish it would have looked at us

861
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,679
and the way it happened, I would love to through

862
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,719
your audience a lot more, you know what I mean.

863
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:43,719
But that's just that's all I see. Like I said,

864
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,960
I got mean with more questions and it than answers myself.

865
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how it normally goes, it does. This next

866
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:56,039
one is from Smooth Dave. He wants to know how

867
00:45:56,079 --> 00:45:58,079
I did it have a tail? He said it didn't.

868
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:00,440
And did you see the color of its side? You

869
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,079
said you'd never saw its eyes because it didn't look

870
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:07,960
directly at you. No, it did not, all right, Moving

871
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,239
to the next one from Bang Bang. She wants to

872
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,760
know after it smiled that you, did you get the

873
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,639
sense it marked you in some way?

874
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:19,159
Speaker 1: Now she talking about that thing that's on the tree,

875
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,840
because the werewolf that you look at us once. Now

876
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,280
the thing in the tree did. And it looked like

877
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,000
it was up to no good, you know what I mean,

878
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,800
Like her grimlin like it was causing trouble, It was mischievous.

879
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,360
It was that kind of grim.

880
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 2: Really, it makes you wonder what the heck that thing was.

881
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 1: I have no idea, man, I'll tell you what that

882
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,840
that that right there is that's got to be otherworldly

883
00:46:44,039 --> 00:46:46,400
or other dimensional has to be. I I just don't

884
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,719
even because I don't know anything on this planet besides

885
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,960
the opinion or octopus that can change the shape of

886
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:52,880
its skin and color.

887
00:46:54,679 --> 00:46:57,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, whatever that thing was sounds like it's too freaky

888
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,920
to have anue business coming down out of that tree.

889
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,400
He just needs to keep its freaky butt up in

890
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:08,679
that tree. That's not good, not good at all. It

891
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,920
looks like ashes antics wants to know. What's the movie

892
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:14,440
were a wolf? That most looks like the one that

893
00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:19,519
you had in your encounter, you said?

894
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 1: One guy said it earlier with q U Jackman in it,

895
00:47:25,519 --> 00:47:27,320
and what's the name? But I can't think of it?

896
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,599
Speaker 2: Van helsing, There you go.

897
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:32,559
Speaker 1: That's it to a t, I mean, to the dot,

898
00:47:32,639 --> 00:47:34,280
that's what I saw, made a little bit. It's a

899
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,519
little darker now because that one was a little gray.

900
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: Now that we're talking about movie were wolves, what do

901
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:43,519
you think is the best were wolf movie of all time?

902
00:47:44,679 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 1: Hmm. I don't really fall off into sci fi movies. To,

903
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,079
I would say.

904
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 2: Underworld, Underworld, Yeah, that's a good movie. That is a

905
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,440
good movie. Have you ever seen Bad Moon? Though?

906
00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:05,079
Speaker 1: No, I really don't watch a kind of movies. I

907
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:06,880
don't know. I don't watch horror movies and stuff like that,

908
00:48:07,079 --> 00:48:09,039
or you know, I try I try to, you know,

909
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,360
I'm really interested in the past, you know what I mean,

910
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:15,159
like Machi Peach you you know a lot of stuff

911
00:48:15,199 --> 00:48:18,760
like that. I love that Moone channel and do this

912
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,639
kind of stuff. It'll be awesome, you know. I got

913
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,039
so much knowledge about this stuff.

914
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:28,280
Speaker 2: But yeah, well those movies aren't for everyone. So no harm,

915
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,360
no foul on that, no problem. Looks like Elsie and Tariga. Hey, Al,

916
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:37,280
he's another very well tenured researcher who's always out there

917
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,519
beating the bushes looking for sasquatch and dog men. Al

918
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:43,159
wants to know. Did the dog man screamer?

919
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:48,239
Speaker 1: Hell No, it didn't it. I mean I didn't make

920
00:48:48,239 --> 00:48:51,480
a peep. It just was walking walking, that was all

921
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:55,079
it would do. But we didn't. I mean, I imagine

922
00:48:55,079 --> 00:48:57,559
if I used to seeing headlights, but you know it's

923
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,039
a dog man. I was like, well, so what at

924
00:48:59,079 --> 00:49:00,440
your headlights? You know? I mean, I'll take you out

925
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:02,239
of picture if I want to, which you could have?

926
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:06,320
You know, I thought that way, but no, no, we

927
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:07,920
are Yeah they didn't.

928
00:49:09,559 --> 00:49:15,199
Speaker 2: Bad answer is that. The next one is from Angel Weeke,

929
00:49:15,519 --> 00:49:18,280
and Angel wants to know, Chris, did the dog man

930
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:19,199
have a bad smell?

931
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: I could not smell it. I was in the car.

932
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,039
We had the windows up. Yeah, I'm glad I didn't

933
00:49:26,039 --> 00:49:27,719
smell it, actually, because that would be just a little

934
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,760
too close for me. So no, I did not smell it.

935
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:36,840
Speaker 2: Too close for comfort, no doubt. Christian wants to know

936
00:49:37,039 --> 00:49:39,079
if the dog man noticed you, do you think it

937
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:41,679
would have been aggressive or pursued towards you.

938
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:45,639
Speaker 1: I really don't know what to say that, you know,

939
00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:48,440
I don't know. Fifty to fifty maybe maybe not, you know,

940
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:50,800
maybe I don't know. It doesn't sound like a car

941
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,760
and intimidates him at all, So you know, That's why

942
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,920
I'm saying it. It seemed like it needed to go

943
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,599
where it was going, because it I would have thought

944
00:49:58,639 --> 00:49:59,960
it stopped and looked at us. I mean, I had

945
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,360
right in my headlights slowly turned left at this te

946
00:50:04,159 --> 00:50:06,800
you know what I mean, until I decided, you know,

947
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:08,440
we were just about straight onto the road I was

948
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,320
turning on and this thing was gonna be crossing the

949
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:12,679
road and I just gun ives out of there. So

950
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:14,039
no it didn't.

951
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank goodness for that. The next one is from

952
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,079
Tony Jones and Tony wants to know do you think

953
00:50:21,159 --> 00:50:23,719
having one sighting makes it more likely that a person

954
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:25,000
will have additional ones?

955
00:50:27,559 --> 00:50:29,559
Speaker 1: I would like to have another siding. I actually would,

956
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:31,760
you know, maybe it'd answer a few questions as long

957
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,400
as it was a good sighting, you know, I'm I'm

958
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,119
all up for that. But what's the chances of that happened?

959
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:40,679
Speaker 2: And I don't know, Well, you never know. It's hard

960
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:45,079
to say. The next one is from Smooth Dave and

961
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,039
Dave wants to know, did you get an estimation of

962
00:50:48,119 --> 00:50:48,880
how old it could be?

963
00:50:51,039 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't even really know how you go about telling that.

964
00:50:53,079 --> 00:50:55,239
Maybe look at its teeth, like how they do deer?

965
00:50:55,440 --> 00:51:00,719
How what war down they are? Noo, they might live

966
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,800
for two hundred you know, that's a really hard question

967
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,039
to ask. It's a good question, but I don't know.

968
00:51:07,159 --> 00:51:09,800
I'd say he looked like maybe I's twenty eight year old.

969
00:51:10,559 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah it could have been. Yeah, it's

970
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,079
really hard to age these things. There's so many things

971
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:18,400
we don't know about them. We don't know nearly enough

972
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,960
about them to be able to come close to effectively

973
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:24,880
and accurately aging them. So that's anyone's guest. Like you said,

974
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:28,400
Tree wants to know Chris has a great open mind

975
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:31,679
about nature in this world. Has Chris had any other

976
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:32,760
cryptid encounters?

977
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: No, I have not. I haven't. No, seen a lot

978
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,840
of UFOs. I went out and lived in Arizona one

979
00:51:42,840 --> 00:51:45,000
summer up in the mountains, help my buddy build a

980
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:47,599
log cabin, and I just seen a lot of UFOs there.

981
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,320
It was between kingmen and flag staff, and I did

982
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,079
feel weird being up there. I'll tell you that I

983
00:51:53,119 --> 00:51:55,199
had weird feeling all the time. But no, no, I

984
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,840
really haven't had any other experiences.

985
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 2: Thanking this for that. Looks like Christiane wants to know.

986
00:52:03,079 --> 00:52:04,199
Did you see tracks?

987
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:08,159
Speaker 1: I didn't, And I'm really I'm sitting here right now

988
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:10,840
kicking myself in the butt. Or I should have went

989
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,000
back and got tracks and pictures, but you know, I

990
00:52:13,159 --> 00:52:15,480
was just so I didn't want to be in an

991
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,599
area I wanted to go. I just want to say, hey,

992
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:19,519
you guys are something around here. I'm going home.

993
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:21,519
Speaker 2: Should it could have?

994
00:52:21,559 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 1: Would have?

995
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,039
Speaker 2: You know what they say? Bang Bang wants to know, Chris,

996
00:52:26,119 --> 00:52:29,000
I'm from the fort. Do you think there is some here?

997
00:52:29,679 --> 00:52:32,480
Do you think there are some here twenty minutes from you?

998
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like we would you say somebody I'll be

999
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,559
in earlier. That's right in between Warsaw and Fort Wayne.

1000
00:52:41,559 --> 00:52:43,679
There could definitely be one of Fort Wayne, definitely. You know,

1001
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,039
there's plenty of good woods around Fort Wayne. It's a

1002
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:48,360
big city. One could go around there. I noticed big

1003
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,800
time because no hunters are in the woods. Man. You

1004
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,920
could have anything on its plate to eat, you know, pets, cows,

1005
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:59,599
or swarms all around. You know, that's a really good

1006
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,519
place between Columbia City and for Wayne to see what

1007
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:03,719
I would think Lagrange County.

1008
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: Is there much in the way of moving water around there?

1009
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,320
Speaker 1: There's plenty of water, it's I mean, I can tell

1010
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,039
you how many lakes are right in that area. There's

1011
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:18,000
a state park right there. I mean water for days. Deer,

1012
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:22,280
I mean there's a deer in every bush. So unlimited food.

1013
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, what more can one of these things ask for?

1014
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:31,559
That makes them pretty darn happy. Average citizen forty three

1015
00:53:31,679 --> 00:53:34,880
wants to know what is Chris think dogman are genetic,

1016
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:38,480
hybrid lab created demonic entities, et cetera.

1017
00:53:41,559 --> 00:53:44,800
Speaker 1: You know, that's a million dollar question right there. That's

1018
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,840
the one that's what I want to know. I think

1019
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,679
I asked you that earlier today. What you thought about

1020
00:53:49,679 --> 00:53:53,639
it too, So it's up in the air. They look

1021
00:53:53,639 --> 00:53:58,119
pretty natural, but that again, they're very unnatural.

1022
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard to put a finger on what

1023
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:05,159
these guys are. Like I said earlier, maybe some of

1024
00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:08,519
them are naturally well, I guess if they're made in

1025
00:54:08,559 --> 00:54:12,760
the laboratory. I take that back. They're not a natural creature.

1026
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,679
They're test tube creatures. But maybe some don't have any

1027
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,760
special abilities, any more abilities than any other animal. And

1028
00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:22,639
maybe there's another group of them that does. It's just

1029
00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:25,199
really hard to know, and it's so hard to say.

1030
00:54:26,559 --> 00:54:32,280
This next question is from a Scent of Phoenix, and

1031
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:36,000
they want to know, Chris, did you ever encounter a sasquatch?

1032
00:54:36,519 --> 00:54:38,760
If so, how would you compare it to a dog

1033
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:40,159
man in terms of size?

1034
00:54:42,199 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 1: I mean the young I mean when I go to

1035
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:45,840
your own and I go into the woods at four

1036
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:48,519
in the morning, you know what I mean, And sometimes

1037
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:50,400
I stay in so dark, and then I gotta walk out.

1038
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,639
I've never seen anything remotely close to a sasquatch. I've

1039
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:56,679
never heard one. I'm really interested in them, you know

1040
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,840
what I mean. I think that'd be a cool thing

1041
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:01,840
to see. I haven't seen no other dog man, you know,

1042
00:55:02,039 --> 00:55:04,840
I actually want to see. I guess like, as long

1043
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,199
as I'm in a safe I feel safe and I

1044
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,519
am safe. I would like to see another one, but

1045
00:55:09,639 --> 00:55:10,239
not in the woods.

1046
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know. Spend as much time in the

1047
00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:17,519
woods as you still do. You just might see one there.

1048
00:55:18,360 --> 00:55:22,000
I guess time I will tell on that. This next

1049
00:55:22,199 --> 00:55:28,840
question is from Thomas Crowley, and Thomas wants to know

1050
00:55:29,159 --> 00:55:31,239
do you live near a military base.

1051
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:39,119
Speaker 1: Now or then? Right now? I ain't too familiar to

1052
00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:43,199
this area. I know Montana and Wyoming got the you know,

1053
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,679
the blisting missiles and stuff over there. There's bases there.

1054
00:55:46,119 --> 00:55:50,960
There's another Air Force base down by the reservation, but

1055
00:55:51,079 --> 00:55:54,119
we're Sturgis is that? But up here there's just a

1056
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:57,199
National Guard in Indiana. No, there wasn't one around.

1057
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:04,599
Speaker 2: That answers that got another one for you from Slim.

1058
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:09,559
Slim wants to know. I'm a late comer, but can

1059
00:56:09,639 --> 00:56:11,599
Chris elaborate on the creature in that tree.

1060
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:21,079
Speaker 1: That really, uh, that scared me. Scared the Yeah, I'd

1061
00:56:21,119 --> 00:56:23,480
go go inside and changing with drawers on. And I mean,

1062
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,840
I don't know what that was. I I couldn't even

1063
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:32,480
begin to guess what it was. Uh, I don't know,

1064
00:56:32,639 --> 00:56:35,000
you know what I mean, I I really don't. It's

1065
00:56:35,119 --> 00:56:38,079
that that does scare me. That because this thing looked

1066
00:56:38,159 --> 00:56:39,760
like it was up to no good. And the way

1067
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,960
it smiled at us, like hey, I see you guys. Yeah,

1068
00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,159
it gave off a bad presence bad And you know,

1069
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,039
I mean my brother, my brother, my little middle brother,

1070
00:56:50,119 --> 00:56:52,440
Russell was with me, all my friends know you know

1071
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,320
what I mean, if there's ever a problem or when

1072
00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,119
he's younger, a fight, he was the first one head

1073
00:56:56,159 --> 00:56:58,519
on into He getn't scared of nothing, and he was scared.

1074
00:57:00,199 --> 00:57:04,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I can understand why. That's pretty freaky. Like

1075
00:57:04,159 --> 00:57:07,159
I said, I've got another question for you from tree

1076
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,400
that kind of touches on the same thing that creature

1077
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:12,280
up in the tree. Part of this you already answered.

1078
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,079
She wants to know can Chris try to describe his

1079
00:57:15,199 --> 00:57:18,039
feelings or thoughts on the creature in the tree a

1080
00:57:18,119 --> 00:57:21,159
bit more? Is there a creature that he can compare it.

1081
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:30,239
Speaker 1: To m not really compare it to Uh, curious, that's

1082
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,639
what comes to mind. It seems curious. It was like

1083
00:57:32,679 --> 00:57:33,559
he was out exploring.

1084
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 2: I probably shouldn't bring this up, but it really makes

1085
00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:41,000
you wonder how many times you've been in the woods,

1086
00:57:41,159 --> 00:57:42,960
spending as much time in the woods as you have,

1087
00:57:43,719 --> 00:57:46,119
how many times one of these things, the freaky thing

1088
00:57:46,239 --> 00:57:48,639
up in the tree has been watching you, monitoring you.

1089
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,519
Speaker 1: You know, how how many times has one of those

1090
00:57:53,559 --> 00:57:55,239
things I ever been watching any of us? We would

1091
00:57:55,239 --> 00:57:55,960
never really know, you.

1092
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 2: Know, that's true. But the good takeaway from that is

1093
00:58:00,519 --> 00:58:03,480
you're still here. You haven't been attacked by anything like that.

1094
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,559
So I'm sure whatever it was had every opportunity to

1095
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:08,960
harm you, not just that time, but if it had

1096
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:12,079
seen you in the forest before or after that time,

1097
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,239
it could have come after you then. But it didn't.

1098
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,119
So that's really something important to not lose sight of.

1099
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: Absolutely. No, yeah, we we didn't go back into the

1100
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:27,400
swamp for acting rand. We stayed out of there. No,

1101
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:30,079
we didn't. We didn't. We didn't really want to know

1102
00:58:30,159 --> 00:58:31,840
what that thing was and we didn't want to find out.

1103
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't say I'll blame you at all there

1104
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:43,000
at all. This next one is from Miguel Floriano, and

1105
00:58:43,159 --> 00:58:46,000
Miguel wants to know, did you get a precursor that

1106
00:58:46,119 --> 00:58:48,800
you felt that something was wrong before the sighting.

1107
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: Of the truth of the Goblin or the dog? No? No, no,

1108
00:58:56,599 --> 00:58:59,239
I mean I was expecting to see, you know, maybe

1109
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,559
deer standing out there, a coyote, because I blow and

1110
00:59:01,639 --> 00:59:03,800
coyote called back a couple of ways, a couple of ways.

1111
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:05,199
You know, we just all mess around so can get

1112
00:59:05,199 --> 00:59:09,559
something riled up. And no, no, it's just like I'm

1113
00:59:10,039 --> 00:59:12,840
you know, it was pretty dark out you know, that's

1114
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:14,320
why there was no snow on the ground. If the

1115
00:59:14,599 --> 00:59:16,559
snow on the ground, I would seen this thing long

1116
00:59:16,639 --> 00:59:18,599
before we came up to this, you know what I mean,

1117
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,559
because when there's a moon in snow out there, it's

1118
00:59:20,599 --> 00:59:24,280
just like daylight outside. And this thing, though, I mean,

1119
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,400
it was there the whole time on was making his turn,

1120
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:29,960
and it was right for news. It's pitch black though,

1121
00:59:30,159 --> 00:59:32,679
you know so. But once my headlights hit it, no,

1122
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:34,840
that was it right there. I mean I followed it's

1123
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,159
every step until I felt it was getting too close

1124
00:59:37,199 --> 00:59:38,239
to the road. And that's when I left.

1125
00:59:40,079 --> 00:59:42,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't blame me for getting out of there. I don't.

1126
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:50,199
This next question is from Long Island Bigfoot from Mike.

1127
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,599
Mike wants to know how far from civilization were you?

1128
00:59:54,119 --> 00:59:57,559
Just a curious just a curious question. No need to

1129
00:59:57,639 --> 00:59:59,760
be specific with location, thank you.

1130
01:00:01,559 --> 01:00:06,760
Speaker 1: Two miles, three miles, and then you start hitting out

1131
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:12,480
out like the little suburbs of outside of Warsaw. I'm

1132
01:00:12,519 --> 01:00:14,519
menacing one and ten minutes from someone's backyard.

1133
01:00:14,599 --> 01:00:20,079
Speaker 2: Easy, Ye know, that's pretty close in although I guess

1134
01:00:20,159 --> 01:00:24,840
two miles that's kind of about there. But it's not

1135
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,000
exactly like the moon Dogs or anything like that.

1136
01:00:28,920 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: No, it's definitely uh it was you know the way there,

1137
01:00:32,039 --> 01:00:34,360
it was a big field, uh like the CRP for

1138
01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:36,480
the farmers get paid by the government, you know, to

1139
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:39,679
grow this stuff, and uh just just for the animals.

1140
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:43,679
But uh, I just I you know, I wracked my

1141
01:00:43,719 --> 01:00:46,800
brain thinking, man, okay, because I've deer hunted down there,

1142
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:48,639
and it's just there's a whole lot of places even

1143
01:00:48,679 --> 01:00:51,760
for deer to hide, And I'm like, what is this thing? Why?

1144
01:00:52,039 --> 01:00:54,480
Like I want to put a collar on it, follow it,

1145
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:56,880
you know, like I want to know how this thing

1146
01:00:57,039 --> 01:00:59,760
is able to hide, you know, just a digg I'm back,

1147
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,559
probably good dig a hole. I mean, I don't know

1148
01:01:01,599 --> 01:01:02,519
why couldn't.

1149
01:01:04,159 --> 01:01:07,519
Speaker 2: Well something to remember, people aren't looking for these things.

1150
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:10,599
Most people aren't, that is when they head into the woods.

1151
01:01:11,039 --> 01:01:13,519
So if they're not looking for these things, that just

1152
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:16,519
makes it that much easier for them to remain undetected.

1153
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,880
So that's a pretty good explanation for why they aren't

1154
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:21,360
seen more often than they already are.

1155
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, like I was saying, you know, I don't

1156
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,559
know how many times you know, dear Rob was walking

1157
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:30,159
in the woods, and I mean I walked right past

1158
01:01:30,199 --> 01:01:33,320
the year just because it stood still. You'd be surprised.

1159
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:35,599
There's nothing moves. You could just walk right by it.

1160
01:01:36,719 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: Oh, sure, yeah, they do it all the time. It

1161
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:42,239
looks like Christiane wants to know how tall it was. Well,

1162
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,320
Chris said that it was about eight feet tall, maybe

1163
01:01:44,519 --> 01:01:49,039
here over eight. But she also wants to know if

1164
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:52,920
there are any sightings from men in black afterwards that

1165
01:01:53,039 --> 01:01:54,039
you've experienced.

1166
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: It was a healthy eight feet, if not bigger, you

1167
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:00,599
know what I mean. I wish it wasn't around trees,

1168
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,679
you know, I couldn't like have nothing compared to It's

1169
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,639
just out and open. So no, I've never seen men

1170
01:02:07,679 --> 01:02:09,400
in black, nothing like that. But you know what I mean,

1171
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,639
we didn't report it. We didn't talk about it though either. Now.

1172
01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:16,000
I tried calling the law enforcement agencies just to say hey, man,

1173
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,920
to seeing you know, I didn't if a child would

1174
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:20,960
have got hurt and I didn't call, sobody, try to

1175
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:23,519
want somebody. My conscience would have never, would have never

1176
01:02:23,639 --> 01:02:26,800
let me forgive myself. So I felt like I had

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01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:27,480
to do something.

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01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's admirable that you reported it for that reason,

1179
01:02:32,639 --> 01:02:37,760
it really is. The next one is from Kimberly Morgan,

1180
01:02:38,199 --> 01:02:40,519
and Kim wants to know. Did the thing in the

1181
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:43,119
tree have a coned head and really long.

1182
01:02:43,039 --> 01:02:49,079
Speaker 1: Arms, longer skinny arms. Yeah, its heads woul seem pretty round.

1183
01:02:49,119 --> 01:02:51,840
It had like little ears, you know, inside of its head.

1184
01:02:53,719 --> 01:02:58,639
I can't remember the nose really. The smile was so mischievous,

1185
01:02:59,159 --> 01:03:00,960
you know what I mean, like it knew it was.

1186
01:03:01,360 --> 01:03:02,960
It was like it was trying. It was playing with

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01:03:03,119 --> 01:03:07,920
us almost, you know, if it wouldn't have smiled the

1188
01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,159
way of Blinn. That's what really got me. It stuck

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01:03:11,199 --> 01:03:12,639
its head out, looked at us and I seen it

1190
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:15,320
as it came out. It's taken on the color and

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01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,480
texture of this tree, and I'm like, I'm looking. I'm like, man,

1192
01:03:18,519 --> 01:03:20,199
and we had a we had a real big high

1193
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,079
power spotlight with us too, and he's looking at it

1194
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:27,559
and I'm watching it, literally watching skin like take on

1195
01:03:27,679 --> 01:03:32,199
the shape of bark and green and brown. And then

1196
01:03:32,719 --> 01:03:35,239
his eyes were like the colored dogging eyes I heard

1197
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,599
on your show. They were amber, but they were like

1198
01:03:37,719 --> 01:03:40,199
rattlesnake eyes. It slits went up and down, and it

1199
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:43,599
smiled and blinked at us and maybe us running scared,

1200
01:03:43,639 --> 01:03:46,239
but I heard it. She must have claws because I

1201
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,679
heard down the tree and you shot off in the

1202
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:50,960
swamp fast, real fast.

1203
01:03:52,519 --> 01:03:54,800
Speaker 2: You're doing just fine until you mentioned the fact that

1204
01:03:55,639 --> 01:03:59,039
that freaky thing had elliptical pupils like a rattlesnake.

1205
01:03:59,199 --> 01:04:03,719
Speaker 1: That is freaking Absolutely did, dude, it did. It blinked,

1206
01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:05,679
the size of smile and its teeth. I mean it

1207
01:04:05,679 --> 01:04:07,679
look like someone took a file. I know that I've

1208
01:04:07,679 --> 01:04:10,039
seen tribes on TV where they filed their teeth. It's

1209
01:04:10,079 --> 01:04:13,360
a tradition. Well, this seems it probably grew that way.

1210
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,360
But it had a mouthful of cutters.

1211
01:04:17,320 --> 01:04:20,559
Speaker 2: Wow. Yeah, Like I said that freaky things just best

1212
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:21,760
for it to stay up in that tree and not

1213
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,639
come down to the ground. That's not good at all.

1214
01:04:27,719 --> 01:04:30,199
No more. Fundland wants to know if you saw another

1215
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:33,119
dog man when you try to get closer or communicate

1216
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:33,440
in some.

1217
01:04:33,559 --> 01:04:37,079
Speaker 1: Way, I would definitely get the best look I could.

1218
01:04:37,199 --> 01:04:38,960
You know what I mean as the situation. You know,

1219
01:04:39,719 --> 01:04:43,880
I'm no dummy. I'm not gonna put myself on a corner. Yeah, definitely,

1220
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,480
though I would, you know, because I have no reason

1221
01:04:46,519 --> 01:04:48,360
to hear these things. They ain't hurt me. Like you said,

1222
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,800
you know, it could very easily hurt us. I know

1223
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:53,119
it could, have no doubt in my mind, you know.

1224
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:57,239
But I guess as long as I until I feel

1225
01:04:57,519 --> 01:05:00,400
a presence, you know, I'm gonna I'm gonna try to,

1226
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:03,480
you know, give you or me or my family or

1227
01:05:03,519 --> 01:05:06,000
whoever wants to know an answer if I can.

1228
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, you never know. You just might have another encounter

1229
01:05:10,719 --> 01:05:13,480
someday and have a chance to gather more information. It's

1230
01:05:13,559 --> 01:05:16,960
really hard to say. The next one here is from

1231
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:20,679
Carlito's Way ninety three CC, and you answered this for

1232
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,159
us already. He wants to know what color eyes did

1233
01:05:23,239 --> 01:05:26,559
it have And yeah, Carlito, it never looked at him,

1234
01:05:26,639 --> 01:05:29,840
so he doesn't know. But moving to the next question

1235
01:05:30,159 --> 01:05:33,880
in the last one of the night from the live chat,

1236
01:05:34,239 --> 01:05:37,159
Tree wants to know, or it's a comment, maybe the

1237
01:05:37,239 --> 01:05:40,079
dog man was hunting that thing in the tree. I

1238
01:05:40,119 --> 01:05:42,360
guess she's asking she wants to know if you think

1239
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:45,480
that that dog man might have been hunting the thing

1240
01:05:45,559 --> 01:05:48,840
of the tree, but he laid it out that encounter,

1241
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,199
that experience with that creature in the tree that happened

1242
01:05:52,239 --> 01:05:55,400
when Chris was fifteen, at a different time than when

1243
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,159
he and Dave had this dog man encounter.

1244
01:05:58,519 --> 01:06:01,239
Speaker 1: That's absolutely correct, know what I mean? It was years earlier.

1245
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:06,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, separated quite a bit of time. And then also

1246
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:10,039
to close out her question or comment, she says, Vic

1247
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:12,800
had an episode where a dog mean pointed. It's something

1248
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:18,639
like that, remember and the idead have an episode like that. Well,

1249
01:06:18,679 --> 01:06:25,360
this last question for you is oh, okay, I guess

1250
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,559
that was the last question from the life chat. Well,

1251
01:06:28,599 --> 01:06:30,159
before we get out of here, Chris, do you have

1252
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,800
any closing comments you'd like to put out there for us?

1253
01:06:34,159 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: I just want to tell everybody, you know, keep an

1254
01:06:35,800 --> 01:06:39,760
open mind, keep yourself safe, you know, come across one

1255
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,280
of these things, don't automatically think it's gonna, you know,

1256
01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:45,519
tear you apart and rip you up, you know, because

1257
01:06:45,719 --> 01:06:48,000
I'm sure these things can sense fear, you know so,

1258
01:06:48,719 --> 01:06:50,639
But then again, how can you not be scared of

1259
01:06:50,760 --> 01:06:53,199
something like that? I would say, just try to be

1260
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,280
to keep cool, you know what I mean. If you

1261
01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:59,199
got children, get them away from it and keep just

1262
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:00,519
keep it safe. This since.

1263
01:07:02,119 --> 01:07:05,960
Speaker 2: That's all good advice, really good advice. Well, Chris, I

1264
01:07:06,039 --> 01:07:08,159
can't thank you enough for coming on sharing the details

1265
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:10,440
of that experience with us. I really appreciate it.

1266
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:13,840
Speaker 1: Vic. I can't tell you how much it means to me,

1267
01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:16,119
you know that I can get this out there. I'm

1268
01:07:16,159 --> 01:07:18,559
elated and I got much gratitude. Thank you.

1269
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,800
Speaker 2: Oh you know you're welcome. And if down the road

1270
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,360
you do start to have trouble dealing with that experience,

1271
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:26,639
then please let me know I'll be there for you.

1272
01:07:27,719 --> 01:07:31,199
Speaker 1: Yep, absolutely absolutely good man.

1273
01:07:31,960 --> 01:07:34,639
Speaker 2: Well, having said that, thanks against so much for your time,

1274
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:35,880
and have a great night.

1275
01:07:37,000 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: Hey, thank you, Vic, you have a nice night too.

1276
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: Thanks. We'll see no bye, all right, that'll do it

1277
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,679
for another episode of the show. Thanks against so much

1278
01:07:48,719 --> 01:07:52,239
everyone for listening. You know, I really appreciate that. And

1279
01:07:52,599 --> 01:07:54,559
if you have had a dog in the counter of

1280
01:07:54,639 --> 01:07:57,519
your own and either need help with it or it

1281
01:07:57,559 --> 01:07:59,519
would like to be a guest on the show, all

1282
01:07:59,519 --> 01:08:02,000
you would need to do is to go to Dogman

1283
01:08:02,159 --> 01:08:05,000
Encounters dot com and submit a report. If you do

1284
01:08:05,159 --> 01:08:07,320
that then of course I'll reach out to you and

1285
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,639
schedule a film consultation. Then that way we can take

1286
01:08:10,679 --> 01:08:13,679
it from there. But having said that, like I said,

1287
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,560
thanks again so much for listening, and have a great night.