Speaker 1: I'll start Toyota Presents off the Bench with Jacob Hester
and Matt Flynn.
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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz of Baton Rouge studio.
Speaker 2: It's off the bench, all right, welcome back.
Speaker 3: Here, hour number three of ot B. It's gotta feel
it's going to continue to be the conversation.
Speaker 4: It is what it is. It's the biggest news out there.
Speaker 3: SEC going to nine games, three permanent opponents, the other
six are going to rotate. We have continued to try
hearing the breaks to put together our final OTB stands
on the three teams, We're still not there.
Speaker 4: We'll get there eventually.
Speaker 3: But and this also like, it's not like we keep
using Mississippi State, Kentucky Vandy because that's the one I've
seen the most out there of Hey, let's play the
three easy. It's now that can also rotate. Vanderbilt certainly
wouldn't have been in the bottom three a year ago.
Those years, Kentucky would not have been in the bottom three.
I mean, Kentucky has won ten games in the last
couple of years. Remember going to Kentucky was at twenty
twenty one, and Kentucky put the SmackDown on LSU.
Speaker 4: So like that's not always going to be the case.
Speaker 3: But when I say those teams, it's not even that conversation,
it's those teams don't They don't really do any They
don't really move the needle for you, like no matter
how good or how bad they are. Right now, currently
we're talking about Oklahoma, like the SEC kind of showed
you that they want to make that a thing. Okay,
maybe it does happen, Maybe there's something there. They've played
for a national championship in three I've had some big games,
they played in a College Football Playoffs semi final. But
it's like, right now, even that game in Oklahoma is
one of, if not the most successful college football programs
like in the totality history of college football. But it's like,
still don't have those memories yet, you don't have those
moments even though you've played them for a national championship.
And so it's not just picking on those three schools.
The schools that we're talking about right those are teams
that you've had hate for, you have memories for, you
have core memories you have moments that immediately come to
your brain. I mean growing up watching LSU touchdown Tommy
Banks in nineteen ninety seven, Like I remember exactly where
I was for that moment, like when he scored and
being in the Sports Illustrated, I thought the coolest person
in the world.
Speaker 4: Kind of still do. Kevin Falk.
Speaker 3: Kemp Falk was the coolest person in the world when
I watched him in the Independence Ball. It's like, there
is not a cooler person right now in this world
than Kevin Falk, right, and like some of those moments
that you watch him against Florida.
Speaker 4: So that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 3: It's not just what they are on the field, because again,
the three teams that everybody's talking about, they've had moments
where they've not been the three worst teams in the SEC.
It's the teams that you've got this history with of
bad blood, of great games, of you know, players from
the other team that you can just you say their
name and it creates this motion like, man, God, Brandon Spikes,
that's son of a gun man. I can't you know,
Like That's what I'm talking about, And you just don't
have that with those other teams, and so that's what
we're trying to come up with, the three teams that
create those emotions, because that's what you want every single
year on your schedule.
Speaker 5: At the end of the day, it's probably like a
it's probably a short term situation anyway, when we think
about the totality of college football, I mean, whether it's
five years, ten years, whatever it is, like cause you
would think eventually SEC is going to add two more teams,
for more teams, six more teams as these mega conferences
start to expand, you would think that that's probably the
way that things will go. So they'll have to re
align the your all these teams again at some point.
So I mean we're probably not talking about the next
thirty year opponents either. And with nine games, I mean
you are getting a spattering of everybody. So even if
you know what the games don't line up exactly how
you want it to or how you think they should,
I mean you're still going to get everybody. What was
the what was the breakdown again of how they're going
to schedule home and aways for your the non three
teams that you're playing every single year, you're playing every
everybody will play at every stadium, right, if you're a
freshman play, Yeah, four years, you'll be at every stadium.
That's a that's a beauty about how it should be.
That's exactly how it should be. That's the beauty of adding.
I love that they're adding the next game. I know
we can debate who and why and you know, whatever
it is. But like the fact that we're going to
nine SEC games.
Speaker 4: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know we had we had the eight, but
it eliminates one other game. And hopefully they keep the
mandate that you do have to have a power powerful
or powerful whatever it is. I don't know, is it what?
Speaker 4: What is it? What? How does it read? Right now
you have to play power four, you have to play
at least one powerful in conference theme.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully they keep that because those those games are
amazing too. Like the fact that we are going out
there and playing at Clemson home in a way, which
is which is fantastic. So I want I want to
see those games, but I'd like to see everybody. Everybody
do that, uh tiboeau, I I do.
Speaker 3: I do see your point, I understand it, but I
want them every year, he said, Just I just want
to point out that just because a team isn't your
permanent opponent doesn't mean you'll never play that again.
Speaker 4: I know that. I know that, but I want to
play them every year. To a point, play them every
single year.
Speaker 3: Want every player's ever played for Florida to nobody else
who's all about Yeah, and certainly in the year, in
the time that we're in of one year rentals.
Speaker 4: I want everybody every year, every single year. I get it.
I know you're gonna be in a rotation, I get it.
I just want them every year.
Speaker 5: I want to be able to punch him in the
face every single year. And of course I'm a quarterback,
so that's metaphorically speaking. You want somebody else to punch
him in the punch him the face. Why I throw
it passes, it's obviously I don't you know. I'm not
getting in the fray. I'm not going to get in
the fight and smoke. But I'll talk to you know
what to him.
Speaker 6: But you're the hold me back guy.
Speaker 4: Hold me back exactly like, aren't you'll hold me back?
I don't want to do this. Everyone's just watching hold
me back? Nah, dude, you got it. Oh man, this
is awkward. I like this from two d lad.
Speaker 3: We don't have Texas on the regular season schedule this year,
but we will play them in Atlanta come December. You know,
he no, you know, eventually we are going to have
to give three teams. We eight, you know, are we are?
We are we settling Florida and Old Miss It is
our official stance.
Speaker 4: I think, so.
Speaker 3: Do we want to go Florida Old miss A and
m Florida Old Miss Alabama?
Speaker 4: I just think it's too big of a game. This
isn't what we'd rather. It's kind of what we like,
what we think, and what we think. I don't know.
I think it'll be I think they'll give us.
Speaker 6: Wait, this isn't what we want. This is what we
think the SEC.
Speaker 4: Florida. Should we do what we want? I thought that's
what we were doing. Then it goes Florida Bama.
Speaker 6: Yeah no, no, no, Florida.
Speaker 4: I mean I'd rather than Ole Miss, would you would? Yeah? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Jackson Dark's good. Is like they really missed an opportunity
last year. It's like they screwed that one up.
Speaker 4: Lane's got a lot to prove.
Speaker 7: I mean that's what we talked about when we ranked
them in the o TV poll though, like.
Speaker 6: Get over the hump.
Speaker 7: He was handed a playoff team, not handed, but he
had a playoff team last season.
Speaker 4: Yeah we said it.
Speaker 3: Not now then when y'all watched him play, Yeah for
the giants'ready the best quarterback on that team, hands down.
Speaker 4: I don't think you can.
Speaker 3: I don't think couldn't make the playoffs with him and
that roster you had.
Speaker 8: You had Amos who went in the second dB. So
Chris Paul at linebacker was a really good player for you.
Speaker 5: Just for that fact, let's kick them out of our list.
Speaker 4: I'm good with it.
Speaker 5: Take Yeah, I mean that was I mean, and he
was playing college football six months ago. Seven months ago.
It's not like it's not like he's matured and got
become a much better quarterback in that time frame.
Speaker 4: He's just that good. He's just that good.
Speaker 6: Ole miss is seventeen and the OT people.
Speaker 4: Actually had had him hiring.
Speaker 6: I think I put them at seventeen, did you? I
think so it's.
Speaker 4: About where a lot of people think they got. You
had seventeen, went sixteen fifteen. I think that, uh. I
think they running back questions too, which for.
Speaker 8: Him a year ago, they couldn't run the ball a
year ago, and they're probably less talented.
Speaker 4: Lane told me that, he said, we couldn't run the
ball like we needed to.
Speaker 3: That's why we lost against Kentucky and LSU straight up
didn't didn't sugarcoat it.
Speaker 5: I think Ole Miss and Miami are going to be
similar teams this year, and I think they're going to
realize how good their quarterbacks were last year and it's
going to affect their win loss record pretty severely. That's
what I think. I think they're gonna be similar. I
think they're going to have a pretty big step back.
Who is the SEC Coach of the Year. I'm going
to Eli drink Witz.
Speaker 3: The coach is never going to be the coach that
goes and does what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 6: That's true.
Speaker 3: If that was the case, Nick Saban would have fifteen
SEC Coach of the Year trophies in his office.
Speaker 4: He does not.
Speaker 3: It is the coach that, hey, we thought you were
gonna be kind of bad, turns out you were not
so bad. You're actually sort of good, and now you're
gonna get Coach of the Year. That's what that That's
what that award goes to. Unless you have like a
year like you know coach O in twenty nineteen that
he got it. That's maybe the best college football team ever.
They're gonna give you that award. But like coach Saban
had gotten to a point where it's like, you're not
getting this anymore, Kirby, You're not getting it anymore.
Speaker 4: It's gonna be Ali.
Speaker 8: Drinkwitz, speaking of Missouri Eli at the beginning of the week,
said I'm close to the name of the starting QB. Yesterday
he came out and did the opposite. He said, Boat
Prabula and Sam Horn are both going to play in
the opener and essentially winner take all he wants to
see him in game experience to he still didn't have
a starting quarterback. Yeah, Now was that good or bad?
Like you brought in Prabula to be your starter? Is
he underperforming? Or has Sam Horn raised? There's always two
sides to look at it that way.
Speaker 4: I'm going to predict that Shane Biemer will wait the
coach of the Year.
Speaker 8: I thought Shane Beamer too, but they got they got
a little expectations like I don't.
Speaker 4: I guess I'll go Beamer too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but they're they're in a spot of their expectation
where if they stay right where they're at right now,
then he'll probably be a Coach.
Speaker 4: Of the Year.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just I believe in Sellers, and I
think we've talked a lot about him, like if he
is in the Heisman hunt, that means they're having a
really good season, and that means Shane Beamer. And again,
I was impressed listening to him. I'm always kind of
impressed by his interviews and the way he handles himself carrys.
I think he looks good with the media, and I
think it looks presents himself in a good fashion.
Speaker 4: And I think they got a really good quarterback. Honestly,
I think Billy Napier's got a shot.
Speaker 8: I mean, if DJ Lagway could stay healthy, which I
actually think his health is a big concern. I mean
we thought he was a dead man walking a year ago,
Like everybody thought he was gonna get fired. He actually
had a pretty good run there at the end of
the year. He takes down LSU. Like, if they can
build off of that and go eating four nine and three,
I mean, that's that's exceeding expectations based on their schedule. Yeah,
he almost did.
Speaker 5: That last year he's won, like DJ Lagway kneed to
it us away from not being very good.
Speaker 4: Lagway's first eleven on eleven was Tuesday. Yep. Keep in
mind he.
Speaker 8: Didn't participate in spring, and then his first eleven on
eleven in fall was Tuesday.
Speaker 4: You're a week from the first game. It's against Long Island.
I mean, I get it.
Speaker 5: Cope South Richard and he says it gonna be Sark
because he's attached to man in.
Speaker 4: These arcs. Goat Coach of the Year National.
Speaker 5: Last year two hundred yards passing for ARC manning game one.
Speaker 4: Over right right around that two. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Last year it was a split SEC Coach of the
Year between Shane.
Speaker 4: Biemer and Clark Lee. You can split that award, uh yeah,
card and half.
Speaker 3: So Clark Lee won the SEC Coaches Coach of the
Year and Shane Biemer won the A P and USA
Today SEC Coach.
Speaker 4: Of the Year. That's the L S U, U s
C situation. It is. There's only one. It's both the
White House. I don't go to the.
Speaker 3: White House for that. But again, there's one Crystal Ball
and it's some miles.
Speaker 4: Up the road but right near the Mississippi River. Clark
Lee could be in this conversation too. If our boy.
Speaker 7: Diego pop, Yeah, because I'm sitting here trying to think
who I think is gonna exceed expectations, and I don't
know if Vanderbilt will, but Clark Lee's here's one.
Speaker 3: Of the things that we have to remember, and I
know we talked about it often. The teams that are
not at the top. So the teams that actually are
at the top Texas, Georgia and Alabama as far as
the first three teams ranked in the SEC, we don't
know what we're going to get at quarterback. We don't
like we think we know with Arch, but we don't know.
Can Ty Simpson be a good player?
Speaker 4: Hey can be.
Speaker 3: We don't know Ken Gunnar Stockton, same situation. But the
thing that's going to be interesting is being healthy. So
health is important. Obviously, Florida's got one. We certainly have
one at LSU, Oklahoma's got one. South Carolina's got one.
Like those teams that are in that that tier that's
maybe right underneath those other teams to a lot of
people across the country, Well, they've got the most important
position figured out. So the expectations that they have have
a higher ceiling, I think because they've got that position
figured out. Like the top teams right now, Ty Simpson
could go out there and be awful. Gunner Stockton can
go out there and just be a guy, right arch
Manny can just be good but not great. We've seen
the other quarterbacks. We have seen Lenora Sellers win a
game by himself. We have seen Garrett nus Meyer lead
LSU versus Old Miss when it looked like they were
left for dead on a touchdown drive to tie the game,
first playoff, overtime, game over, get off the field, and.
Speaker 4: We know that.
Speaker 3: So like to me, like that's what makes those teams
in those kind of like we're talking about, like in
that middle tier, because they've got the guy that can
go take over a game, get on a six game heater,
and those other teams they think they got their guy.
Speaker 4: Certainly Texas does, but you just don't know. We're gonna
find out in.
Speaker 5: Uh eight days, we are gonna find We're gonna learn
a lot.
Speaker 3: We're not gonna learn a lot about like some of
these situations when you're in Long Island, but I get
it that's true.
Speaker 5: Well, we're gonna learn about mister ark, when do I
stop saying that gotta gotta try to humble.
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going to get from March NFL MVP this year.
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Speaker 3: Will take a break when we come back, going to
continue talking SEC talk a little New Orleans Saints, what
we want to see in this final preseason game, and
Herb Benson from the SEC League Office will also join
us at nine to forty more OTV off the bench.
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Speaker 4: Let's go around the room right now.
Speaker 3: The one thing that you want to see in the
final tune up the last preseason game for the New
Orleans Saints would be.
Speaker 4: I'm stealing it because I want to go first.
Speaker 3: I want to see protection for whoever's playing quarterback in
the middle interior portion of the offensive line. I wanted
to look like a professional football team offense of line.
I want the quarterback, whoever it is, to have the
chance and the opportunity to show what he can do
because he has protection like he should in a National
Football League game. I want the offensive line to also
open up holes for the running back, right I mean,
reports are the Saints are looking to trade for a
running back. I think you actually have a good running
back room. The problem is you don't have spaces opened
up for any of the running backs, and so I
don't think you have a running back problem. I think
you have an offensive line interior offensive line problem right now.
Hopefully with Eric McCoy in there, it shores everything up.
I think he is one of the best centers in
the National Football League.
Speaker 4: I need to see that. I want to see it.
Speaker 3: I need to see these quarterbacks with an actual NFL
pocket and with a chance.
Speaker 5: I want to see a running game. The best way
to help a young quarterback out is the very capable
in the running game be aggressive with it. I want
to see run blocking. I want to see them pushing
guys around. I don't know if it's gonna happen, but
that's what I'd like to see. And again, I don't
think quarterback has been the issue in the preseason games
on offense leading to this point, we've seen the quarterbacks
make reads. We've seen them both make throws. We've seen
them do good things. Now, whether they become really great
quarterbacks is all going to come down to the fourth
quarter of many games, and that's where good quarterbacks separate
themselves in the fourth quarter.
Speaker 4: We don't know what's going to happen in that situation
until you get to the regular season.
Speaker 5: But control the line of scrimmage from a running game standpoint,
let the play action speak for itself.
Speaker 4: That is the best way to help a young quarterback.
I don't know if Caesar Rees is the guy.
Speaker 5: Okay, we've talked about it at nausea, like the mistake
after mistake after mistake, right, I'd like to see somebody
else step up with that right guard position. So that's
what I want to see. It all has to do
with the offensive line. I think we have capable running backs.
I think we have capable quarterbacks. We have at least
a couple of capable receivers. You got a new one
coming in, and we got a new one, big boy,
twenty years old.
Speaker 4: Older fella. It's fine, just seasoned, seasoned, that's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I would like to see, And of
course I want to see the quarterbacks be efficient. But
they've proven that already that they can be efficient. Now
they're not gonna approve they can, but they're not gonna
prove at this game if you're gonna be a long
term starter or a great quarterback, because like I said,
that's gonna come down to the game winning drives. It's
gonna come down to how you play a big moment.
So you don't get those big moments of preseason games.
You just don't do it. You get third downs, you
get red zone plays, but that's like really a judging
and grady and how efficient you can be at work
in the offense. We'll see when the regular season come down,
which quarterback can make those like game changing plays and
who can avoid the opposite type of game changing plays.
But you can't do it without an offensive line. You
can't do it without a running game. It ain't gonna happen.
Speaker 4: Like that one. I think that certainly needs to happen.
Speaker 7: Alandra kind of ties in with y'all's a little bit
because if all of that is working well, then we
will score a touchdown in the first half like we
have not done in the past.
Speaker 4: Stupid.
Speaker 6: I would love to see us get out in front.
Speaker 4: How about that.
Speaker 7: But also I want to see the defense kind of
keep doing what it's doing. I mean, it's probably the
strongest part of this team.
Speaker 4: Game giving up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so I want them to stay consistent and hopefully
healthy and just keep doing what they're doing. But yeah,
keep it simple, stupid score a touchdown?
Speaker 4: Love that one in the first half. Yeah, please, I'll
take any but yes, please, First we.
Speaker 6: Did until the fourth quarter last game.
Speaker 4: Heyday, interior d line.
Speaker 8: As good as the defense have played, you got gashed
in the run game a little bit, a little bit
too much. If you can't run the ball and you
can't stop the run, that is a recipe for disaster.
Just ask the Dallas Cowboys who were lasting both last
year year. I think the defense is a hole. Has
done a good job, but those those tackles want to
see a little bit more from them. But overall, I'm
keeping an eye on the defense because we know the
problems on offense.
Speaker 4: The whole team. How about that. Just just watch everything.
Speaker 8: The punting battle, the battle of They got a punter
battle between James burn Up and Kay Kroger.
Speaker 4: Talk about that one time Kroger South Carolina. I think
he went to sec BD days twice and ball.
Speaker 6: For maybe tell like he's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the tackles are great, but if your guards suck,
it doesn't matter, does not matter, and like you know,
you'll be better at center because McCloy hadn't played.
Speaker 4: But those are your starting guards. They don't suck. You
just have a lot to work on. They suck, said,
don't suck. I mean, it's the difference Flynn.
Speaker 3: If you're in your five four or five whatever he's
in in the NFL and you pass up a big
guy to go to a little guy, I can't.
Speaker 5: They say that the jump you make from year five
to six is one of the biggest in your career.
Speaker 4: They've always said it. We're waiting for it.
Speaker 3: They've always said, hey, let me pass up on this
defensive tackle to go to a linebacker. No, poop, that's
not my responsibility. Spencer Raler gets a face mask and
that he just was trying not to give up the gap.
There never know new offense, you know, Yeah, yep, just wait,
he might be all pro by the end of the year.
Speaker 4: I'll wait and I'll just continue to wait. Wait. That's
don't agreement. That made me even more sad. Thinging that
thinking about will.
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Speaker 3: All right, we gotta kind of quickly do this right
here because we are going to take a break, like
extremely extremely early certainly for us, kind of kind of
actually on time. We gotta put together a little pontoon
parlay here for week zero. And so the way this works,
Matthew is you take a game each week, one that
you feel strongest about, and you give it to the group.
We have four plays, we put it together and we
parlay it and we see if we hit or many
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talk about some somebody that's not here.
Speaker 4: That's wrong.
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can find a line on Idaho State UNLV, go ahead.
I know UNOV like is a twenty six and a
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and you have Stanford and Hawaii.
Speaker 4: To find these lines, I got it for you right here.
Speaker 3: Iowa State, Kansas State minus three for Kansas State UNLV,
Idaho State, minus twenty six and a half for UNLV,
Fresno State and Kansas minus thirteen for the Jayhawks, Sam
Houston and Western Kentucky, minus ten and a half for
Western Kentucky, Stanford and Hawaii, minus two and a half
for Hawaii.
Speaker 4: Shoure Are we all just pig in one? Yeah? All right?
I want Hawaii to cover the two and a half.
You want Hawaii to cover I want Hawaii to cover
the two and a half, all right? Oh man, God,
they have one of the.
Speaker 8: Best winning percentages at home and one of the worst
on the road. Do the debt travel Stanford not great.
Lost a lot from last year as well, so I
like Hawaii.
Speaker 4: Sir, what are you doing?
Speaker 6: What's happening?
Speaker 4: Why are you leaning overlooking at my work?
Speaker 5: I didn't memorize it everything. He just said with the lines.
It's looking at the screen.
Speaker 4: But Alandre, are you ready to go? Do you have
a pick?
Speaker 6: Skip me? If you have one ready, skip you if.
Speaker 4: You are not ready? All right, I will go. I
have one.
Speaker 6: I'm leaning toward.
Speaker 4: But I'm gonna go under fifty one and a half
in Iowa State, Kansas City. I'm gonna take the under there.
I like that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go over sixty three and a half Boise State,
South Florida over. That's a technically weak one, is it really?
Speaker 4: Yeah? It's August twenty eighth, But no, the rules.
Speaker 5: That's why I was looking at your screen just this
Saturday games. So I was looking at your screen.
Speaker 6: Mm okay, I'm gonna go Fresno State to cover.
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Speaker 4: We gotta take a break. We'll go Ido State UNLV
under sixty five and a half. You know, Dan moll
and Scotia, Right, yeah, sure do did you really do? Nope?
Of course not. Yeah, are you're gonna go under? All right?
All right, So here's your pontoon parlay.
Speaker 3: You have Hawaii minus two and a half against Stanford.
You have Iowa State, Kansas State under fifty one and
a half. You have Fresno State plus thirteen against Kansas
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back, you know TV one, O four five, ESPN,
Ben Rouge. It is our pleasure to welcome on our
next guest. It is our guy, Herb Benson, Associate Commissioner
of the Southeastern Conference.
Speaker 4: Herb always a pleasure. We appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 12: Good to join you guys. How you doing it?
Speaker 3: One fantastic And throughout the show, as you can imagine,
we've talked about the nine game SEC schedule and you
and I get a chance to you know, hang out
see each other down in Destin every year for the
SEC Spring meetings, and I know this was a big
part of the conversation, so Herb, I was just like
from that moment where you had you know, a lot
of people were in favor of it, but you still
had some that were asking questions, like from that moment
until yesterday's announcement, kind of what was that process like
to get to this point?
Speaker 12: Well, you know, I think you have to go back
a lot further than that to really capitulate everything that's
taking place to get us to where we are today.
In the announcement that we made yesterday, we had discussions
about our schedule even going back to twenty nineteen, before
of Oklahoma Texas even joined the league. I can remember
there was a meeting schedule in twenty twenty at the
SEC men's basketball tournament where our presidents, presidents and chancellors
gather every year, and this was on the agenda to
talk about the football schedule. That's when COVID hit and
that discussion never took and so things played out. You know,
after that din Oklahoma Texas joined the league, and I
think there's a natural progression that what the conference expands,
you talk about adding games to the schedule, But the
initial discussion about adjusting our schedule emanated from talk about
wanting our student athletes and our fans to be able
to see more teams from around the league. You know,
in the old divisional days, he only saw a couple
of other teams through other divisions rarely because they they
did not rotate through your schedule very often. And so
the discussion was, well, how can we get our student
athletes on the other campuses are facing other teams more often.
That dynamics changed a little bit with the transfer policy,
but we still have interest in our fans being able
to go to other campuses, go to other stadiums experience
new rivalries, and so I think that's where it all started,
was even way back then, you know, bringing it up
to this year's this year's spring meetings, I think we
had to healthy discussions there by the discussions through the
ads themselves separately, with football coaches together, football coaches and
athletics directors, and then conversations just considered continued after that.
So I think it's I think it was an important
announcement yesterday. I think it was a look to the
future for our athletics directors and our presidences and chancellors,
and I think it's good for SEC fans.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we kind of reading there's been a lot of discussions,
certainly on this show and other show and just kind
of around the SEC about with this new scheduling, there
is going to be three common opponents for every team
that's they're going to play every single year. I want
to kind of know how that decision making process is
gonna kind of kind of unfold, and will each individual
team have some sort of input in that final decision.
Speaker 12: Yeah, there's some advanced lavalries and part of this part
of this structure, which is a you know, three annual
opponents six sprintaning opponents was to maintain some of those
traditional robberies. I think people know who those robberies are.
Then there's you know, you know, you have schedule balance
as much as you can. You don't want to load
up one team with too many difficult annual rivals.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 12: There's there's geography uh involved. I think there's a number
of different things, and so that'll that'll that'll play out
as we and we go through it, and certainly there's
discussions with the schools as well, so that announcement will
come up. I see it's already become a parlor game,
you know, immediately after that, after the announcement yesterday, A
mighty god, who's it going to be? It's gonna be
the same as the ones that were announced in twenty
twenty two, with it never were any announced in twenty
twenty two. There was some discussion internally about who might
who it might be, and that discussion kind of took
off and a lot of people guessed at what they were.
And so you can you can search the internet and
find all kinds of people who reported different scenarios. But
but none of that, none of that holds right now.
So that'll be a big announcement when we have it, obviously,
because of the anticipation is already building.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, with that question, I mean we certainly talked about
it here today and Glenna and I talking about teams
that we had, you know, great games against when we
were playing for LSU, and you don't want to see
those go away. But I guess the question is, like,
when you look at those things, it's hard her because like,
do you go to recent memories that like the last
ten years, last fifteen, last twenty years of teams that
have played and now they're memorable games, or do you
go back one hundred years? Just like how far you
kind of go back in the thought process of these
two teams playing each other because of the history between
the two teams.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and I think you make it more recent, you know,
you have some recncy to it to make sure that
you're measuring strength of programs in a more recent time frame.
And you're right, you know, you go back to your
you guys played it, you guys to play at LSU.
And so there's a time when LSU's big Robbert it
was was old.
Speaker 10: Miss.
Speaker 12: There's a time when it seemed like in the nineties
it was Auburn. You know, then there's Alabama at the time,
there was at the end of the year, there was
the Arkansas game. And so you know, who's the rival
for every school. And one of the things we're not
calling it is permanent opponents because we'll take a certain
time period and then relook at it. You know, those
those annual rivals could change over the course of time,
but we'll look at it and we'll we'll we'll have
a big announcement at some point, and I think people
take interest in it.
Speaker 5: So, Herb, what do you think is going to happen?
So we got there, there will be nine sec schedule games.
What do you think is going to happen to those
other three games? They're still going to be kind of
the required power for non conference schedule or do you so,
do you think that's gonna go away? Or do you
think one of the other, like the Group of five
game will go away?
Speaker 4: In a lot of these teams schedule, that's that's.
Speaker 12: One of the requirements is that you still have to
play a team Yeah, yeah, Big ten or Big twelve
or Notre Dame. And so I think that you know,
that's ten Power Conference opponents for every team every year.
I don't think there's another conference in the country with
the rigor that already existed in the SEC schedule and
then now you had a ninth game continue the Power five,
Power four requirement. There's no other conference in the country
that has this difficult of a schedule as the Southeastern Conference.
I think it's great for fans. It's compelling, compelling games,
great interest, and I think that was part of the
motivation of our athletics directors and our presence and chancellors.
It's looking forward. It's looking to the long term good
of the Southeastern Conference, creating value for the league and
how we would be perceived in the future and how
we compete in the future.
Speaker 4: I love that. Just real quick on the way out, Herb,
we can't thank enough for your time.
Speaker 3: The official OTB stance is if Lshum Florida play every year,
we wouldn't hate that.
Speaker 12: Okay, all right, we'll factor that into Okay, yeah, if we.
Speaker 4: Get a vote.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure you know, every year since nineteen seventy one,
So we'll throw the facts out there. Herb, you truly
are the best man. I cannot thank you enough. I
know today is a crazy day for you, So thanks
for getting for a couple of minutes here.
Speaker 12: All right, thanks guys, good luck you see all.
Speaker 4: Right there he is HERB.
Speaker 3: Benson, Associate Commissioner of the Southeastern Conference.
Speaker 4: With a lot of news there. That was great. Yeah.
Uh the power for stuff. Love it.
Speaker 3: There's gonna be some people right now, probably people building
that are punching air, just punching it, just so mad.
Speaker 4: All the smoke are all and a power for opponent.
I would love it. Let's play Penn State. Let's do it.
Wouldn't that be sweet? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Go there, you held a wide out situation. They come
back here and whatever color y'all want to choose. You
can do that too if you want to. Or you
can just have a good old Cajun drunk fest. You
can do whatever, it doesn't matter. All the good teams.
Speaker 4: That was a great We appreciate her. Yeah. I like
today's visit for him. He kind of gave me a
schedule and I was like, we will move our closs.
Speaker 3: We'll just do that one for you. So yeah, uh
so I better listen to us. So on the Florida thing,
I'm sure we get a vote. Yeah, I mean he
just told commissioners, thank you. You got nervous because he
didn't he didn't mention that when he's talking. I know,
I know he went to miss and they skipped Florida went.
So a couple of things that that did stand out
to me, that the power for stuff love that, uh
and also like more recent history between the two teams.
Speaker 4: That's important. It's important bouncing it out. It's not necessarily
gonna like.
Speaker 3: So like two maybe that make a lot of sense
to the ones like, hey, we're gonna give you little breathe. Yeah,
so like if you're looking at LSU, it might not
be Florida, Alabama Auburn. It might be Florida, Alabama or Arkansas.
Right so little yeah, good information there from her boot. Yeah,
So the biggest takeaway for me was the hey, more
recent like so to a Launder's point text A and
m now is fully in play because that recently is
certainly a thing.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to edit the show right now and I
just got to the part.
Speaker 11: Where Matt picked the game that you did on the
opposite But it's a good way not to go over
the in your point. But I do think Kansas is
going to cover that one. But obviously, you know I was.
Speaker 4: Trying to I was trying to scramble. That's mad. They're hydrated.
They're very hydrated. Fresno State's not. Actually they aren't. You're right.
I love your pick. Thank you.
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Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I wasn't listening to any of else picks
and I was trying to get the internet to work
on my computer. I don't know.
Speaker 6: My Texas A and M take was dumb.
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Speaker 3: Get ready, elect uh recap the pontoon parlay, y'all do
it real quick, Hawaii mis two and a half. I
would stay Kansastate under fifty one and a half Fresno
State plus thirteen one. We believe in the most UNLV
under sixty five and a half against Idaho State.
Speaker 4: Feel real strong about that one. Yep, real strong.
Speaker 3: It's a foxhole here even though we're stuck on trying
to figure out who we want LSU to play. Hey,
he also said Permanent doesn't like play it here.
Speaker 4: That was big too. That was the other thing that
I wrote down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we could revisit this thing and don't know, six years,
eight years, ten years, I don't know that, but he said,
we'll reassess. That is an important note to the scheduling.
So I mean, great information by herb. Yeah, really clear.
It a lot of things up for us. So hey,
all right, so this is how we're going to end
today's show.
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