1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,240 Speaker 1: Does the gear make the hunter or does the hunter 2 00:00:02,319 --> 00:00:05,599 make the gear. We're talking with a great panel today 3 00:00:05,719 --> 00:00:10,439 all about gear to make a better Western hunt. I'm kJ. 4 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,160 You found the right place. We go all over this 5 00:00:16,199 --> 00:00:20,079 little blue orb, sharing stories and tactics about chasing wild gang. 6 00:00:21,199 --> 00:00:28,239 Now let's get on the hunt, all right. Welcome in 7 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:31,199 Gun Talk Hunters. I'm your host, kJ, and Hey, another 8 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,759 great panel today. This episode is brought to you by Remington, Amos, 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,640 Savage Arms, Range Ready Studios and Timney Triggers. Let's jump 10 00:00:39,759 --> 00:00:43,119 right into it because we're talking about gear, and there's 11 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:45,679 no better gear to talk about when heading out west 12 00:00:46,119 --> 00:00:50,079 or on your next NRL competition than Mike Hearn. Mike, 13 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,079 welcome in, dude, Thanks for having me, no problem, it's 14 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,359 completely everybody else. It's pleasure to have you on here. 15 00:00:57,439 --> 00:01:00,600 Maybe not mine. No, I'm just kidding. Can't be mean 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,880 to you because you're like the nicest mountain goat. I know. 17 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:05,439 Speaker 2: Yeah. 18 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: So you're working with Tricer and they're a relatively new 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,400 player in the in the in the hunting world, in 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,840 the PRS and NRL world. How much of a difference 21 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,120 does gear make when you're talking about hunting out West. 22 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 3: I mean gear, guys can get away with less of 23 00:01:29,799 --> 00:01:32,159 a quality equipment. I would rather if a guy has 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,680 a budget for gear, spend less money on gear and 25 00:01:35,719 --> 00:01:37,959 spend money on getting out there and getting in the field. 26 00:01:38,079 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: But nice gear is always nice. 27 00:01:40,599 --> 00:01:43,879 Speaker 1: To have well, and I will say this, nice gear 28 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:48,239 nice gear typically cost. Like when you're talking about like 29 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:53,319 high end tripods or your bipods or whatever it might be, 30 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:57,480 you're talking a big expense and a new guy entering 31 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:00,319 this world or a new girl entering this world world, 32 00:02:00,879 --> 00:02:04,920 I worry about that cost and them looking at it, 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,199 going how do people afford to do this? Because I've 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,719 got to get out there, and then they're telling me 35 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:13,080 I have to carry everything in. I have to carry 36 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,479 all my backpack in, my sleeping, my food. So I 37 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,520 wanted to be light because I'm not I'm not an arnold. 38 00:02:20,199 --> 00:02:23,360 So so what does that look like in today's modern 39 00:02:23,479 --> 00:02:24,280 day of gear? 40 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:30,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for from a purely like tripod bipod standpoint, 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,400 that's That's one of the things that we try to 42 00:02:33,479 --> 00:02:37,039 tackle at Tricer is having a price point that is 43 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,319 attainable to the to the average person. 44 00:02:39,719 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Are we are we cheap? Are we on the like 45 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,599 cheap end? No, but are we are? 46 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:52,599 Speaker 3: Are our prices price pointed to where your average hunter, 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,240 whether it's a guy or gale, can can get a 48 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,280 quality product. 49 00:02:56,319 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: I think so. 50 00:02:57,039 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 3: Right, Uh, you did a review recently Lee on shooting tripods. Right, 51 00:03:03,039 --> 00:03:06,120 and you can look at some competitor stuff that is 52 00:03:06,439 --> 00:03:08,960 made out of plastic and it costs five hundred bucks. 53 00:03:09,039 --> 00:03:11,680 You spend an extra one hundred bucks and you're getting 54 00:03:11,719 --> 00:03:16,000 a really quality ball head, inverted ball head and set 55 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,199 of shooting sticks that are carbon fiber and it's about 56 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,400 it's like a three pound package so you can carry 57 00:03:21,439 --> 00:03:22,479 that into the field. 58 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: Well that and the price point for me is it's 59 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,960 a big thing. I would love to have those weight savings, 60 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,759 but it's got to work. And I think I think 61 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,240 when we talked to Brady, I think he's going to 62 00:03:34,319 --> 00:03:37,360 say the same thing. Man, Like, I will pay a 63 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,360 little bit more if I know it works, and it's 64 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,159 not going to come up because I've been out on 65 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:48,080 hunts and in matches where a speck of dust, a 66 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:51,479 speck of sand can get into a ball head, and 67 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:55,039 like it really plays a factor in how you perform, 68 00:03:55,439 --> 00:03:58,360 and that translates into hunts like We don't always hunt 69 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,520 in perfect conditions. 70 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:03,639 Speaker 3: No, absolutely not. Stuff is getting dirty, it's getting dusty. 71 00:04:03,759 --> 00:04:09,039 It's uh, it's I would say, the the other the 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:14,840 other big consideration in the tripod space is a lot 73 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:18,079 of these companies and and there there's there's a few 74 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,439 companies out there that are making tripods for hunters by hunters, 75 00:04:21,759 --> 00:04:24,519 but by and large, a lot of these tripod companies 76 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:29,199 are photography companies. They are and they're like, oh man, 77 00:04:29,399 --> 00:04:32,560 those those NRL hunter guys and hunters and shooters, they 78 00:04:32,959 --> 00:04:35,480 need sticks and they're spending They're spending good money. 79 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:36,759 Speaker 2: We could get some market share. 80 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,959 Speaker 3: Let's uh, let's white label this and call it Joe's 81 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,959 tripod company. 82 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,759 Speaker 2: And now it's a hunting tripod. I mean it's a fact. 83 00:04:44,879 --> 00:04:46,000 It is a fact. 84 00:04:45,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: There and there are larger manufacturers in the space making tripods. 85 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,680 It's if you look at Leofoto, it is the same 86 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,120 exact tripod, but it has a different logo on it. 87 00:04:56,519 --> 00:05:01,079 Treiser Treiser was born out of Drew, the owner, the CEO, 88 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,959 realizing especially in the hunting world. We started, we started 89 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:09,600 in hunting first. We're still the only hunting tripod company 90 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,399 that's making inverted legs, which is more stable, and it's 91 00:05:12,439 --> 00:05:15,560 more user friendly because it keeps your twist locks up 92 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,120 near your hands, right in your workspace. 93 00:05:17,639 --> 00:05:18,279 Speaker 2: So to speak. 94 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 3: I mean there's some drawbacks rain right rain, If you're 95 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,600 in the rain with it, it can seep down into 96 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:25,120 the legs. 97 00:05:25,439 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: Unscrew the leg and drain it. 98 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 3: It's a hollow leg and dust and dirt can like 99 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,199 kind of collect in those inverted legs a little bit 100 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:33,600 easier than a standard tripod. 101 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,199 Speaker 2: But it's more stable and it's more. 102 00:05:36,199 --> 00:05:39,160 Speaker 3: Ergonomic as far as as far as the function of 103 00:05:39,199 --> 00:05:42,319 your tripod and where your hands are. So for us, 104 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:45,240 if you if you're more stable, you're gonna find more animals. 105 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,519 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's well. You remember so I remember, like 106 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,319 when I first saw like a tripod being used in 107 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,240 the field for hunting purposes, I was like, oh my gosh, 108 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,639 I can be as stable as I want, Like this 109 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,480 is the this is going to fix my shooting. Didn't 110 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,839 fix my shooting. It probably made me a worse hunter 111 00:06:03,959 --> 00:06:06,879 honestly because I relied too heavily upon it. But it 112 00:06:06,959 --> 00:06:08,240 was the big I think. 113 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 4: Man. 114 00:06:09,079 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: I want to say it was either bog or cald Well, 115 00:06:11,519 --> 00:06:13,920 one of those They had it and it was about 116 00:06:14,079 --> 00:06:17,639 yay big, like it wasn't it was it was, it 117 00:06:17,759 --> 00:06:20,319 wasn't massive, but it folded out and it was like 118 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,920 a shooting bench. Like the arms folded out, the two 119 00:06:23,079 --> 00:06:26,600 ends of it folded out, and you have this big tripod. Man, 120 00:06:26,639 --> 00:06:31,839 I carried that thing everywhere. Now it seems silly for 121 00:06:31,879 --> 00:06:35,639 me to carry something like that in the field, because yeah, 122 00:06:36,199 --> 00:06:39,279 I mean, it's just like it seems silly because I'm like, man, 123 00:06:39,439 --> 00:06:43,720 I can get just as stable on just the balance 124 00:06:43,759 --> 00:06:46,879 and the structure of a normal tripod using an arca 125 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,759 Swiss rail yep, well. 126 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,519 Speaker 3: Or a bipod if you're already carrying a normal tripod 127 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,439 to glass off them. Like our bipod goes up to 128 00:06:56,519 --> 00:07:01,279 thirty inches tall. So using our bipod fully extended with 129 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,600 your glassing tripod is a rear tripod to reach out 130 00:07:04,639 --> 00:07:06,519 and touch something and get stable. And I think that's 131 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,279 something and I'm sure Brady can talk about it, but 132 00:07:09,319 --> 00:07:12,480 those are skills. Like I went to Army sniper school. 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,680 They never taught us rear tripods, right, So that's that's 134 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,120 a newer development in like the last ten years of shooting. 135 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: And I think I think. 136 00:07:23,759 --> 00:07:28,199 Speaker 3: The competitive shooting side PRS NROL Hunter, that a lot 137 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:30,480 some of that stuff that's coming straight out of there. 138 00:07:30,519 --> 00:07:33,399 Those guys are figuring out how to how to get 139 00:07:33,439 --> 00:07:37,399 on target quick and like get their breathing under control 140 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,079 and then squeezing off a long shot, and they're figuring 141 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:42,480 out ways to get stable and do more with less, 142 00:07:42,879 --> 00:07:45,000 and so some really good stuff I think is coming 143 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,959 out of NRL Hunter, and I would love to see 144 00:07:47,639 --> 00:07:50,399 some of those those skills being like kind of taught 145 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:52,920 in the hunting world by and large, because if you're 146 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:55,920 not and if you're not Brady, you correct me if 147 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:59,639 I'm wrong, if you're or kJ as well, but if 148 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,720 you're not, Like in the NRL hunter community, when you 149 00:08:02,759 --> 00:08:04,800 say rear tripod to somebody, they're. 150 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,319 Speaker 1: Like like, what what, what are you put it? 151 00:08:08,079 --> 00:08:11,319 Speaker 3: So? And I literally just had a customer service call 152 00:08:11,439 --> 00:08:14,360 with a guy for tric Er. He was at he's 153 00:08:14,399 --> 00:08:17,800 got the bipod and he wants to mount He's got 154 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:21,199 the Salmon River Solutions rail with ARKA and then the 155 00:08:21,279 --> 00:08:23,519 pit the pick so it's all on the front. It's 156 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:25,560 a short rail and he's like, well, I'm having a 157 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:28,759 hard time getting it mounted to I'm going from bipod 158 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,480 to tripod with it up there, and I'm like, well, 159 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:33,879 if you've already got your glass set up on your 160 00:08:33,879 --> 00:08:36,639 tripod and you've got our sticks and you can shoot 161 00:08:36,919 --> 00:08:39,360 over the brush, you can get thirty inches tall, right, 162 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,080 if the situation calls for it, Why would you take 163 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,879 your glass off the tripod to make that long shot 164 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,120 put the gun on the tripod? 165 00:08:48,279 --> 00:08:51,399 Speaker 2: Like why why not just extend those bipod. 166 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 3: Legs, Yeah, and use that tripod for rear support and 167 00:08:53,759 --> 00:08:54,279 send it. 168 00:08:54,279 --> 00:08:57,039 Speaker 2: So and that stuff. I think it'll catch it. It'll 169 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:58,000 definitely catch on. 170 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: Like I've I've I've been shown and guides this stuff, 171 00:09:01,159 --> 00:09:04,159 oh yeah, and trying to spread the knowledge because they 172 00:09:04,519 --> 00:09:06,600 they all they all kind of deal with the same stuff, 173 00:09:06,639 --> 00:09:09,039 especially if they have a client that they they don't 174 00:09:09,039 --> 00:09:11,600 have the utmost confidence in their shooting ability, which I 175 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,799 feel like ninety percent of guides when you talk to them, 176 00:09:13,879 --> 00:09:17,240 they get they get their hunter into camp and have 177 00:09:17,360 --> 00:09:20,080 them shoot one hundred yard berm and they're like, oh, 178 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,519 we got our work cut out for us. 179 00:09:21,919 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they see it real quick. 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Thank you for all that I appreciate that. 264 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: I say that with all love and a little bit 265 00:14:17,639 --> 00:14:25,519 of jealousy. And so you have, you have extensive experiences 266 00:14:25,559 --> 00:14:29,679 and you have won countless matches within the NRL and 267 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,360 the PRS community. And when we talk about these new 268 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:38,440 techniques that you guys are evolving that transfer over into 269 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,600 the hunting world. How are you? How are you guys? 270 00:14:42,799 --> 00:14:45,720 How do you guys see this differently than all I mean, 271 00:14:45,919 --> 00:14:48,559 years and years and years we've known what tripods are, 272 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:52,799 but you guys seem to have made this giant jump 273 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,519 in how to brace yourself to make the shot. 274 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think. 275 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 5: It all comes from, in my opinion, you have I 276 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:03,559 mean you think of the Seisman alcre deer, and then 277 00:15:03,759 --> 00:15:05,679 you go to a PRS match. You're shooting targets that 278 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,519 are like the size of the actual heart, not the 279 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,759 vital zone, the size of the heart, you know. So 280 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:12,960 we're having to hit these steel plates that are small, 281 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,799 and you got to do what you can to hit them. 282 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:18,679 Speaker 4: So I think it's just natural progression. You've got. Tripod 283 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:20,559 rear has been a huge thing over the last few years. 284 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:24,159 Speaker 5: Bags have come along ways, which I mean some guys 285 00:15:24,159 --> 00:15:25,600 that listen to this, if they're just hunters, they may 286 00:15:25,639 --> 00:15:27,240 not even realize what we're talking about when we talk 287 00:15:27,279 --> 00:15:30,159 about bags. But I mean this weekend, for instance, at 288 00:15:30,159 --> 00:15:32,559 the match I'm going to, I'll carry two different bags, 289 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,080 one for one light bag for certain things and one 290 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:36,559 heavy sandbag for certain things. 291 00:15:36,879 --> 00:15:39,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your fill like? I mean, I know we're 292 00:15:39,639 --> 00:15:42,039 jumping over into a little bit of bag talk, but 293 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,919 this is part of the gear aspect of shooting more 294 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:50,039 effectively and more efficiently to make every shot count. What's 295 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:51,000 your fill look like? 296 00:15:51,679 --> 00:15:52,799 Speaker 4: And as far as in my bag? 297 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, what's in your back? I want to know what 298 00:15:54,879 --> 00:15:55,960 you're filling it with? 299 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,639 Speaker 5: Just sand, I just get the standard. Well, I think 300 00:16:01,679 --> 00:16:03,639 it's just saying. I know some guys put glass beads 301 00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:05,879 in them. I just I'm saying if it gets wet, 302 00:16:05,919 --> 00:16:08,120 it does suck, it turns into a brick. And that's 303 00:16:08,159 --> 00:16:10,080 part of the reason I'll carry the lightweight bag is 304 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:14,000 it can get wet and it won't solidify. The lightweight 305 00:16:14,039 --> 00:16:18,639 bag is like these little super light foam beads and 306 00:16:18,679 --> 00:16:21,480 it's light like I'll carry it hunting. I'll just oak 307 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,120 it to my pack for rear support or like, if 308 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,080 I can go prone, it's great. If I have to 309 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:31,399 shoot off of something hunting, I do whatever possible to 310 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,720 get either prone ideally or tripod and triple. 311 00:16:34,399 --> 00:16:40,799 Speaker 4: Ple rear or tripod rear. That that's I mean. 312 00:16:41,639 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 5: If I can't do that, chances are probably need to 313 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,120 figure out a different spot to shoot from, because you 314 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:49,360 should be able to get prone in most situations, I think, 315 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,399 or at least off the top. 316 00:16:50,279 --> 00:16:50,919 Speaker 4: Of the tripod. 317 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:54,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, so we keep saying this, and I know there's 318 00:16:54,639 --> 00:16:56,840 a lot of listening out there. They say they keep 319 00:16:56,919 --> 00:16:59,879 saying tripod rear, and I apologize. I probably should have 320 00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:03,960 this with Mike. Can you explain what tripod rear is? 321 00:17:04,519 --> 00:17:09,079 Speaker 5: So in PRS enteral hunter, we have we'll carry our 322 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:13,640 tripods to glass from. In PRS, you may have a 323 00:17:13,799 --> 00:17:17,200 prop that let's say we'll go to the cattle gate, 324 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,279 for instance, So there's multiple different tiers in the cattle 325 00:17:20,279 --> 00:17:23,079 gate as you go across, and we may have what 326 00:17:23,160 --> 00:17:25,559 you may have one target at six hundred and fifty 327 00:17:25,599 --> 00:17:28,079 yards and you need to shoot from ten different positions. Well, 328 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:30,359 when you walk up and fill that cattle gate, if 329 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:34,000 you shake it it generally they're not solid almost never, 330 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,319 So you got to figure out how to get the 331 00:17:36,319 --> 00:17:36,839 most solid. 332 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,839 Speaker 4: Well, you can fully extend your tripod. 333 00:17:40,279 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 5: We have these bags that clamp on the front of 334 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:44,000 the rifles, or you can just throw a bag up there, 335 00:17:44,519 --> 00:17:46,599 slide you the front end of your rifle in there, 336 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,960 so it's sitting on the sock or the chassis, and 337 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,240 then you'll grab that tripod and you kind of get 338 00:17:51,279 --> 00:17:55,119 in position and you bring that tripod in and then 339 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,680 you can kind of press it against the butt of 340 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,599 the gun or the chassis and you can get in 341 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:02,759 there and get I mean, it's it's about as solid 342 00:18:02,759 --> 00:18:05,759 as prone. Like they're really like my wife shot or 343 00:18:05,759 --> 00:18:07,960 bowl elk that way with a bipod out front, with 344 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:11,279 a tripod out in the back. It was six hundred 345 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:14,359 and fifty yards with a three hundred norma like I mean, 346 00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:16,119 just helps you get over the brush and you can 347 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,839 get super solid and it's it's great. 348 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,599 Speaker 1: Wehl a lot man, you guys are you guys are 349 00:18:22,599 --> 00:18:24,640 making me think of stuff that I'm doing wrong as 350 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:27,640 a father, Like right now, like if you're not teaching 351 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,279 your kids how to shoot tripod rear, you're really yeah, 352 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,680 you're you're behind the you're behind the eight ball because 353 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:39,359 every night, like leading up to season, like so every 354 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,039 night my kids go home and they do they dry fire. 355 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,279 I just I just make them get the used to 356 00:18:45,279 --> 00:18:49,359 that trigger and feel that trigger. And now I'm thinking, 357 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,000 like they do. It's almost like an NRL Stage one target. 358 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:55,319 You know, they have four different positions. So they'll go 359 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,039 up and they put their back down. I'm making them 360 00:18:58,079 --> 00:19:01,559 do some bag work and then But I have not 361 00:19:01,839 --> 00:19:06,359 incorporated rear tripod. So I'm a bad father in that. 362 00:19:06,759 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 4: It's you can That's what I mean. 363 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 5: People don't realize, like it's funny, and I think everybody 364 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:15,880 deals with it, especially in the shooting world. Like you'll 365 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,559 have your neighbor he's like, oh, you shoot guns. I 366 00:19:17,599 --> 00:19:20,240 shoot guns. I shot an elk it twelve hundred and 367 00:19:20,279 --> 00:19:23,880 fifty hit it every time. And I'm like, if you 368 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:27,240 can't tell I have a neighbor that's that way, And 369 00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:30,599 I'm like, he doesn't know, Like he just knows I shoot. 370 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,799 But I'm like, people have no idea the caliber of 371 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:37,880 shooter that exists in the competition world. Most of us, 372 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:39,920 I mean even your guys that aren't in the top, 373 00:19:40,079 --> 00:19:42,000 like just guys that are coming to have fun. But 374 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:45,000 they've done it, and they've learned how to get steady 375 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,480 on a rifle. They kill stuff like not much gets 376 00:19:48,519 --> 00:19:51,119 away from a guy who shot a competition, and I 377 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:53,079 know there's I got a buddies same thing. A lot 378 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:55,440 of them are archerie guys getting into rifle stuff now 379 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:57,759 that I've done it for so long. But they're like, 380 00:19:58,079 --> 00:20:00,640 I had no idea how accurate a rifle be if 381 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:01,920 you just practice a little bit. 382 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:06,039 Speaker 1: What that man you've you've hit the kind of nail 383 00:20:06,079 --> 00:20:09,359 on the head all the time. Like I'm sitting there saying, well, 384 00:20:09,839 --> 00:20:11,799 used to you know, back in the day, they would 385 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:19,839 I forget which uh uh which Japanese uh officers saidup? 386 00:20:19,839 --> 00:20:22,759 But they wouldn't invade America because there would be a 387 00:20:22,799 --> 00:20:26,759 gun behind every blade of grass. Now there's a there 388 00:20:26,759 --> 00:20:29,880 will be a sniper behind every blade of grass. Because 389 00:20:30,319 --> 00:20:32,559 that I mean, when you start to talk about like 390 00:20:32,799 --> 00:20:36,440 the competition out there and how how good these guys 391 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:41,079 are with a long gun, there's there is a there's 392 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:46,079 a full army of of trained shooters out there that 393 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,960 can shoot any different position. And it's because of gear, 394 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:51,079 Like a lot of it is because of gear. 395 00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, people have no clue. And like, 396 00:20:54,319 --> 00:20:57,480 I mean, it's nice to hear you say that I'm 397 00:20:57,599 --> 00:21:00,119 real good, But I mean there's guys that consistently. 398 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,440 Speaker 4: Beat me that I mean, I wouldn't want to be in. 399 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:04,519 Speaker 1: Rusty. 400 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 4: There's a bunch of them, not a bunch of. 401 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 1: There's one. There's not many people beating your man. 402 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:15,599 Speaker 5: Again, I win, and then I can say I was 403 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,079 one of the best ones. But I don't know, just 404 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:22,799 being realistic, but yeah, I mean there's yeah, there's a 405 00:21:22,839 --> 00:21:26,400 lot of guys that you aren't getting away if they 406 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:27,519 get after you. 407 00:21:27,759 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: Well, it's it's it's it's gear that makes the hunt easier. 408 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,240 And and we kind of started we started focusing on, 409 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,599 you know, the tripods and the bipods, and that's a 410 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:43,000 big determining factor on like success, Like if you can 411 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,720 get in the back country lighter and come out heavier, 412 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,240 that's always a good thing. 413 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:47,839 Speaker 3: Yep. 414 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,920 Speaker 1: I'm not going to deny people that. But you got 415 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,440 to practice with your gear. And we were talking right 416 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:57,240 before you got on the podcast about what you do 417 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:01,359 for practice, like how do you work your practice? Mine 418 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,119 a lot is is positional because when I started shooting, 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:07,920 working a bipod and getting a tripod rear that was 420 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,599 kind of cumbersome, So you have to work through those issues. 421 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:13,319 Speaker 5: Definitely, tripod rear, you definitely have to practice. If you've 422 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,000 never done it. Don't roll up to your first match 423 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,440 and think you're going to do it on every stage 424 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:19,039 because you'll probably time out on everyone you do it on. 425 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: Yep, well I will, I kid you not. I went 426 00:22:22,519 --> 00:22:25,240 to a PRS match and this it was by far 427 00:22:25,279 --> 00:22:28,480 my worst match I ever shot, but on the best stages. 428 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,759 I used a tripod rear and nobody else did at 429 00:22:31,839 --> 00:22:34,400 PRS and that was But there's a little bit of 430 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,680 less time, you know, with with an NR. With a 431 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,839 PRS match, there's less time. You don't have four minutes, 432 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,759 but even by NRL standards, four minutes is not enough time. 433 00:22:45,839 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes I'm worried about that this weekend. 434 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,680 Speaker 1: No, No, you'll be good as long as like, what 435 00:22:52,839 --> 00:22:55,559 was it the target that I was on? It was 436 00:22:55,599 --> 00:22:58,640 a turkey. As long as you find that turkey, remember, 437 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:00,920 because you shot the stage first morning. 438 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: Yes, it was horrible. 439 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 5: You're talking about this last one in January, right, Yes, 440 00:23:06,839 --> 00:23:08,720 I've never seen it was the biggest target of the 441 00:23:08,759 --> 00:23:10,960 match and I saw it first thing in the morning. 442 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:13,599 You couldn't see it. It was invisible in the shadow. Yeah, 443 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,839 and then about five minutes later lit right up. 444 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,519 Speaker 1: Like lit right up, and I was. 445 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 4: Like, this is embarrassing. But I mean it's part of 446 00:23:20,759 --> 00:23:21,079 the game. 447 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:23,839 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's part of the gay. But like I mean, 448 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,759 literally five minutes after he could not find the target. 449 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's not great. 450 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:31,960 Speaker 1: It all, it all makes a difference. Thanks Brady. I 451 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,319 appreciate you joining. You know, when you talk about gear, 452 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,759 it's not about you know, how much gear you have, 453 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,400 it's not about what all you have. It's about how 454 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,079 you use it. And I think that's one of the 455 00:23:42,079 --> 00:23:44,240 more important things that you could do as a shooter 456 00:23:44,519 --> 00:23:46,759 and as a hunter is get familiar with your gear. 457 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,559 Find the right gear that works for you if you 458 00:23:49,599 --> 00:23:51,599 are heading out into the back country. I'm not gonna 459 00:23:51,599 --> 00:23:56,440 lie when I tested out the Tricer tripod, the HK unit, 460 00:23:56,519 --> 00:23:59,359 the like, that is probably one of the better sets 461 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,359 that you can get it for the money and for 462 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,519 the price, you're not gonna find anything better. So find 463 00:24:04,519 --> 00:24:06,599 something that works for you. I think you're gonna hit 464 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,920 on all your targets. But that's it for me on 465 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,839 this gun talk hunt. You know the drill. Keep those 466 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,079 muscles pointing in a safe direction, and always be on 467 00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:14,440 the hunt.