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<v Speaker 1>I wish there was a panel of people we could trust,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would definitely you would be like, ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the panel, you want to watch a movie, they have

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<v Speaker 1>zero propaganda. I don't want no fucking propaganda. I wish

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<v Speaker 1>there was a list of movies that was approved by

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<v Speaker 1>twelve people in the council, twelve people where they're like, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody watched the movie and they're like, this looks like

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<v Speaker 1>a legit, actual story with zero product.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Tonight we're gonna get deep into movies and the esoteric messages,

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<v Speaker 1>the illuminati messages to all these movies with the one

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<v Speaker 1>and only Jay Dyer. How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Jed good Man? What's up? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Good Man? I saw your video like last week and

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get you on. You had the top

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<v Speaker 1>ten most Illuminati movies of all time, and I was fascinated.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't it. I'm like, damn, I gotta get him

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<v Speaker 1>back on. We need to talk about these movies more

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<v Speaker 1>in depth. And I got a bunch of movies that

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about. See if you can get

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of Illuminati angles and propaganda and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>and the one off the top of my head that

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<v Speaker 1>you got into was a two thousand and one space odyssey.

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<v Speaker 1>You did a couple Stanley Kubrick movies, and for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I always thought two thousand and one the propaganda behind

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<v Speaker 1>that was just I think, I think at the highest level,

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<v Speaker 1>anything that has to do with space, thing that shows

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<v Speaker 1>balls floating in space, no matter what the plot is,

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<v Speaker 1>automatically gets.

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<v Speaker 2>Green lit, automatically faking gay and.

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<v Speaker 1>Grant totally right, just like any space movie, Like, it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't matter what the plot is, Like, is there fucking

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<v Speaker 1>spaceships and balls in the background and we're going from

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<v Speaker 1>planet the planet Go Go? Does green light that shit? Right?

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<v Speaker 3>Well? Kubrick's film also has giant phallic spaceships like entering

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<v Speaker 3>into space and shooting out little seaman ships.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you notice that that's that's intentional?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? You know what's crazy is you know, and nothing's

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<v Speaker 1>bigger than Amazon, right Amazon? Just whoever's running Amazon. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's Jeff Bezos, but I bet the top ten

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<v Speaker 1>people in Amazon, they all go to the parties, right,

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<v Speaker 1>they all like if you're at the top of Amazon,

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<v Speaker 1>you at the top of Coca Cola, you're at the

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<v Speaker 1>top of Time magazine. You're going, you're invited to the parties.

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<v Speaker 4>You're at the butt parties. Yes, oh oh yeah totally.

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<v Speaker 4>And so if you notice the logo of Amazon is a.

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<v Speaker 2>Dick, It's a dick? Absolutely?

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<v Speaker 3>Is that? Do you remember when he made that spaceship too,

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<v Speaker 3>it was shaped like a penis.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody were making jokes about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like how come no one talks about how do

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<v Speaker 1>they get away with that? It's supposed to be like, oh, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a smile.

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<v Speaker 2>Or something, right, I No, No, a smiling dick.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>You know what the ethos is behind that?

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<v Speaker 3>That's from Jack Parsons, remember, because Jack Parsons talked about rockets.

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<v Speaker 2>He was the student of Crowley.

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<v Speaker 3>He's the father of the jet propulsion laboratory stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>so he talked to about rockets actually being like little

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<v Speaker 3>seamen that we are shooting off into space to impregnate

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<v Speaker 3>the galaxy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's his his terminology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, you know, the whole Jack Parsons thing and JPL. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Mean, well that's the Space program is again. It's like

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<v Speaker 3>actually about sex magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it crazy? That like Cannason Owens is just discovering

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<v Speaker 1>this and she's talking about it like it's all into it,

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<v Speaker 1>and everybody thinks she's crazy. Everyone's saying, okay, Cannas owens

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<v Speaker 1>she's lost her mind. She has some good points about

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Trump or whatever, but she's talking about fake

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<v Speaker 1>moon Landing's okay, she's fucking lost. She's a cook. Cannas

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<v Speaker 1>owns is a kook. Meanwhile, she's she's probably smarter than

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<v Speaker 1>most of them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's like, and she'll say some stuff. I think

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<v Speaker 3>it's crazy. I don't think Charlie Kirk was a time traveler,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't think there was no you know, Amazon

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<v Speaker 3>technology that the CIA stole to quit working in twenty twelve.

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<v Speaker 3>But the other stuff she talks about is stuff, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the people in the conspiracy world have been talking about

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<v Speaker 3>for a long time, especially anything to do with like

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<v Speaker 3>sex magic, because in the Krollian view, for example, they

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<v Speaker 3>think that when you're engaging in these rituals, you're tapping

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<v Speaker 3>into entities in other dimensions that correspond to like constellations

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<v Speaker 3>or the serious, the constellation serious the dog star like.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what they think you're tapping into.

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<v Speaker 3>So the whole idea of like aliens is directly out

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<v Speaker 3>of like the Krollian ethos of contacting higher entities.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's why.

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<v Speaker 3>These moves and a lot of the people in Hollywood

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<v Speaker 3>are Crollians. I don't think Kubrick was a Crollian because

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<v Speaker 3>I've talked to Vivian Kubrick a whole bunch. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a long conversation on the phone the other day actually,

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<v Speaker 3>and I was asking her all about this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 3>she wouldn't say anything about the esoteric stuff per se,

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<v Speaker 3>but she said that her dad knew about that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>He was supposedly agnostic, didn't really have any perspective on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I do think he was putting a lot of that

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<v Speaker 3>symbolism and ideology in the film, though, because it's about

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<v Speaker 3>monkeys becoming man, and the man basically beating the robots

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<v Speaker 3>to become one with the robots. If you read the

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<v Speaker 3>rest of the Arthur Clark series, and then you then

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<v Speaker 3>men become gods through transhumanism. So that's also a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of esoteric gibberis.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So you know there's some movies that people think that,

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<v Speaker 1>and they may be correct, but they're put out to

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<v Speaker 1>show you what they're doing so that they can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Karma free as long as they tell you what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing and you accept it, they can do it and

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<v Speaker 1>there's no retaliation of some sort of like I'm having

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<v Speaker 1>trouble understanding that, but apparently that's part of like black magic.

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you black magic is totally okay, if you

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<v Speaker 1>tell people you're going to do it and they accept it,

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<v Speaker 1>then you could do it. Can you explain a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of that?

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<v Speaker 3>So well, I don't think that everybody who believes in

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<v Speaker 3>occult views has to accept that, because in the occult world,

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<v Speaker 3>people can kind of craft the cult, the occult perspectives,

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<v Speaker 3>or their systems to be whatever they want. And a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of the people who do that. For example, again

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<v Speaker 3>I don't mean to harp on Curley all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>but like in Croley's system, you could go up the

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<v Speaker 3>grades of his oto and then when you graduate from that,

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<v Speaker 3>what you learn is to create your own religion. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's actually a graduate school in creating a cult or

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<v Speaker 3>a religion. That's why you see al Ron Hubbard creates

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<v Speaker 3>scientology after that, after he goes through that, you see

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<v Speaker 3>Gerald Gardner, after he goes through croley system, he goes

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<v Speaker 3>and creates modern Wicca.

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<v Speaker 2>So all modern witchcraft comes out of that, and other

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<v Speaker 2>people as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack Parsons studied that system and that he tried to

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<v Speaker 3>create his battle on working out of the Croley degrees.

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<v Speaker 3>So they don't have to necessarily be committed to some

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<v Speaker 3>system because they think ultimately when they graduate.

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<v Speaker 2>That their God.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you're God, you're not bound by some rule

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<v Speaker 3>that says you have to tell people what to do. However,

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<v Speaker 3>I do think there is a tradition, there is an

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<v Speaker 3>idea amongst some of those people. You know, you could

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<v Speaker 3>read like Michael Laquina writes some of his black magic

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<v Speaker 3>works and he thinks that when you gaslight people like

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<v Speaker 3>that on a large scale, you already kind of mind

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<v Speaker 3>fuck them and then they are more susceptible to receiving

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<v Speaker 3>information and messages later on. Because you basically you ever

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<v Speaker 3>watched that movie. It's a great movie, that movie Gaslight.

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<v Speaker 3>You ever seeing that?

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<v Speaker 2>No, you should watch that.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an old forties movie by a famous forties

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<v Speaker 3>director's name is George Kukor, and he made that movie

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<v Speaker 3>about this guy who starts dating this woman who has

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of wealth. But the guy's a con artist

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<v Speaker 3>and he basically rigs all of these scams and cons

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<v Speaker 3>in this house that he's built to make her think

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<v Speaker 3>the house was haunted, but it's all just fake. But

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<v Speaker 3>what he's doing is he's driving her crazy, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>stealing her stuff and hiding it and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then putting it back so she thinks she's going nuts.

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<v Speaker 3>So basically gaslighting at that level where they tell you

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<v Speaker 3>things ahead of time, I think it just prepares people,

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<v Speaker 3>It conditions people. It's part of propaganda as well, just

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<v Speaker 3>on a propaganda level, not on a cold level, just

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<v Speaker 3>basically propaganda if you kind of lead people into this

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<v Speaker 3>condition with that. But also I think sometimes there's people

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<v Speaker 3>who do believe in lesser magic that they can sort

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<v Speaker 3>of again just sort of mind fuck people by giving

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<v Speaker 3>them ahead of time or gaslighting them ahead of time

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<v Speaker 3>and then later rolling it out. So I think all

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<v Speaker 3>those things are going on, and it kind of depends

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<v Speaker 3>upon who the director is, how tied into you know,

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<v Speaker 3>Hollywood it is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, I was at the Universal Horror Halloween

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<v Speaker 1>Nights last year for Halloween and it just basically a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of gigantic haunted houses where and they're all the same.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just like, you know, there's a huge line and

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<v Speaker 1>the line goes into this haunted house. When you go

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<v Speaker 1>into these little hallways, people jump out at you and

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<v Speaker 1>scare you, and then they go back and hide and

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<v Speaker 1>wait for the next person and same thing. You just

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<v Speaker 1>walk through. Someone out and scares you and they might

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<v Speaker 1>have a chainsaw blood all over them. That was the thinking.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm there with my wife and my son, and I'm thinking, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they really push horror. They really do. Like what is

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<v Speaker 1>why do they need to push horror? Yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was there for a few hours, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a theory. I have a theory because at

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<v Speaker 1>the highest level, a dream of chrome is probably their

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<v Speaker 1>most that's like goal to them, right, if it's real,

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<v Speaker 1>If it's like traumatized young blood, baby blood coming from

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<v Speaker 1>a traumatized child and living child, apparently that's supposed to

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<v Speaker 1>be the most powerful form of like alixir or like

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<v Speaker 1>youth theoreum. Right, that's the theory, right, Like they're drinking

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<v Speaker 1>a dream of chrome at the highest level, and what

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<v Speaker 1>is it. It's baby blood and traumatized baby blood, because

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<v Speaker 1>when you traumatize the babies.

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<v Speaker 2>Or the childs that are released.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like all this stuff's really so that could be

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<v Speaker 1>all boosted. I don't know, but that's what they're saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, that's what the conspiracies. I saw it on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>So if that's true, If that's true, they need the

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<v Speaker 1>victim to be horrified, and the more horrified they are,

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<v Speaker 1>the better the adrenochrome. So it's I think these the

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<v Speaker 1>horror movies and every like haunted houses, I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>to train people what to be scared of. So when

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<v Speaker 1>they do it and you see all these like satanic rituals,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the Satanic rituals look like shit you see

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<v Speaker 1>like on TV and stuff, and and so they teach

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<v Speaker 1>them to be scared of certain things, and it's all

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<v Speaker 1>maybe these rituals they don't maybe they don't even believe

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<v Speaker 1>in this satanic Luciferian rituals. They just do it because

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<v Speaker 1>they know it's gonna scare the shit out of the

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<v Speaker 1>victims and it's gonna make for better adrenochrome. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think I think horror movies, this is my opinion. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know shit. I think horror movies Hunted a House

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<v Speaker 1>and all that shit, Halloween, I think it's designed to

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<v Speaker 1>those videos of like kids that weren't taught to be

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<v Speaker 1>scared of snakes, and they're like, there's these kids in

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<v Speaker 1>Indian they weren't taught to be scared of these king cobras,

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<v Speaker 1>and they defang the cobras and they take the poison out.

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<v Speaker 1>But then there's these videos of like kids just playing

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<v Speaker 1>they're not they weren't taught to be scared of them,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, theory is horror

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<v Speaker 1>movies they push them so fucking hard because they're teaching

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<v Speaker 3>I think at the level of social engineering and control,

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<v Speaker 3>they are pushing that because the society itself is becoming

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<v Speaker 3>elites are pushing more and more demonic degenerate shit. So

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<v Speaker 3>it's a symbiotic circle of shit there. It's like a

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<v Speaker 3>it's a snake of shit eating its own shit, right

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<v Speaker 3>like Ora Boros. That's what's going on with the elites

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<v Speaker 3>and society, and it's like degrading society.

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<v Speaker 2>So people are looking.

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<v Speaker 3>For more and more extreme versions of things or thrills

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<v Speaker 3>to feel anything, because we're getting so degenerate. But also

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<v Speaker 3>when I wrote the first book, I remember researching Sir

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<v Speaker 3>call Wood Part one. I was researching Hitchcock and some

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<v Speaker 3>of those films when they were new, right, because nobody

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<v Speaker 3>had seen slasher films before Psycho came out, right, and

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<v Speaker 3>that shocked everybody because that was like people never seen

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that. And you watch it now and it's

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<v Speaker 3>like it doesn't even show anything, it just shows it

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<v Speaker 3>just shows a knife and then it cuts the blood,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean. So it's it's tame, but

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<v Speaker 3>like it shocked the audiences back at the time, and

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<v Speaker 3>they were studying that and the effects that it had

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<v Speaker 3>on people. And I mean this has been this has

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<v Speaker 3>been like scientifically studied to the end degree that seeing

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of these kind of traumatic events, which if

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<v Speaker 3>you go back like two three hundred years, right, you

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<v Speaker 3>might have seen one traumatic event in your life, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>you went to war or something like that. But to

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<v Speaker 3>see even if it's simulated or synthetic, like hundreds and

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds of versions of this, it affects the psyche and

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<v Speaker 3>the body. It's a psychosomatic effect, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>times it makes people catatonic. So it puts you in

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<v Speaker 3>more of a suggestible You don't become reactionary and angry necessarily,

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<v Speaker 3>you become more and more passive and catatonic, at least

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<v Speaker 3>for a time period. Right, So I think that that

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<v Speaker 3>trauma that they push constantly. And I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 3>a big deal to still I watch horror movies. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think it's a big deal. But if you're not

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<v Speaker 3>careful about it, if the way it affects a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people, especially if you're young, right, it can be traumatic,

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<v Speaker 3>but that can be used to make the society more

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<v Speaker 3>and more pliable. That's my theory about like why they

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<v Speaker 3>push you know, more and more extreme forms of trauma.

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<v Speaker 3>But also people don't like movies also suck pretty bad

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<v Speaker 3>for the most part nowadays, So the people are I think,

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<v Speaker 3>drifting towards horror because on the one hand, a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of horror movies are cheap to make, but also horror

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<v Speaker 3>films at least still give some kind of a feel, right,

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<v Speaker 3>you still get involved in the process and feel something,

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<v Speaker 3>namely just jump scares or whatever. Because other movies and

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<v Speaker 3>things that we see now that they're so fake and

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<v Speaker 2>It might even be just all AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Who knows if they're only AI has probably been writing

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<v Speaker 3>movies for a while now. So I think people are

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<v Speaker 3>wanting to feel stuff, so they're drifting towards like a

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<v Speaker 3>very sensationalist type of film, like horror movies. That's that's

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<v Speaker 3>my theory though. But on an occult level, I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're right. Like they when they did the m cultural studies,

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<v Speaker 3>they realize that whatever you could do to an individual,

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<v Speaker 3>you can and traumatize them and study all that my

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<v Speaker 3>control shit, like, you could expand that to a microcosm

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<v Speaker 3>level and do it on the mass psyche. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you can damage the individual psyche through these types of trauma,

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<v Speaker 3>if you project that on a mass scale through mass media,

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<v Speaker 3>you can damage the collective consciousness as well.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think that's how they view it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And it's not like you need it to work

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<v Speaker 1>on one hundred percent of the people, right because there's

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<v Speaker 1>like like rap gangster rap. There's people say like, why

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<v Speaker 1>should they censor gangster rap? I love gangster rap. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not out there shooting people up. I'm not doing drive

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<v Speaker 1>by it's like it doesn't have to work on everybody

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<v Speaker 1>as long as like if it works on like if

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<v Speaker 1>gangster rap and today's gangster rap, it's like harder than ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Every rap video they got mad cash, they got guns, diamonds,

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<v Speaker 1>they're every rapper gotta have at least one music video

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<v Speaker 1>shot in a jewelry store, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's or another one is gonna be like at

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<v Speaker 1>a you know where they bag up the coke and

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<v Speaker 1>everyone's naked because they got to be naked. There's like

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<v Speaker 1>everyone got a video like that. There's gotta there's gotta

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<v Speaker 1>be mad cash, like stacks of cash in every video.

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<v Speaker 1>They gotta cash everywhere. I'll fake cash, but uh, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it definitely influences some people, and I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>enough if it like especially like you said, younger people,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see all the guns, the cash, and the

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<v Speaker 1>women and the drugs and the drug dealing, and then

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<v Speaker 1>the song's good too, and you could dance to it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna make everybody. It's not gonna turn everybody

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<v Speaker 1>into a criminal, but it could definitely turn twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five percent of young kids into into criminals eventually. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's all they're aiming for. They know it's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna work on everybody. It's just like when you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a hypnotist show. They know everybody can be hypnotized.

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<v Speaker 1>So before the show, hypnotist goes out and he goes

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<v Speaker 1>out in the studio audience and he's testing everybody. He's

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<v Speaker 1>figuring out tricks, and they're looking for the people that

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<v Speaker 1>are easily hypnotizable. I would say twenty to thirty percent

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<v Speaker 1>of people are hypnotizable and the rest aren't. I'm not antizable,

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<v Speaker 1>but I don't need to be. All they need is

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty percent and it's successful, and that's a win

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<v Speaker 1>win win. They're not trying to get everybody. They're just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get like a nice percentage, and that's all

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<v Speaker 1>it's needed to be considered useful for them.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, think about video games as a great example what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying, and I'll mean to transition out of movies.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Pentagon helped develop first person shooters on record

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<v Speaker 3>because they wanted to figure out ways to train dudes

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<v Speaker 3>to just immediately shoot without thinking morally like should I

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<v Speaker 3>shoot this thought? You know, they had people had a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of reticence when it came to shooting people, and

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<v Speaker 3>even going all the way back to the education system,

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<v Speaker 3>like when the when the Prussians were trying to develop

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<v Speaker 3>the perfect soldier, they really did a lot of early

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<v Speaker 3>research and how to perfectly condition a soldier to not

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<v Speaker 3>have any second thoughts about shooting and to just do

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<v Speaker 3>it like a reflex.

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<v Speaker 2>That became the model.

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<v Speaker 3>The Prussian system of soldiers became the model for the

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<v Speaker 3>American education system on record, and that same model is

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<v Speaker 3>the idea behind why they wanted to train people through

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<v Speaker 3>video games and first person shooters to have absolutely no

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<v Speaker 3>moral qualms.

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<v Speaker 2>You just follow the orders, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's why, of course they like AI and drones

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<v Speaker 3>because they're not going to you know, obviously they'll do

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<v Speaker 3>whatever they're pro going to do, but they were originally

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<v Speaker 3>trying to program humans to do that. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>you're absolutely right that what movies do in many ways

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<v Speaker 3>is try to foist all kinds of propaganda, and they

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<v Speaker 3>they don't have to get the majority of the population,

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<v Speaker 3>like you said, like good good effect of propaganda if

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<v Speaker 3>it reaches a sizeable percentage of the population is successful

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<v Speaker 3>or significant. Especially for example, they're trying to create crazy,

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<v Speaker 3>So they're trying to create people that will go out

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<v Speaker 3>and pop off, like you only need a small portion

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<v Speaker 3>of the population mind controlled or like you said, susceptible

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<v Speaker 3>to that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I think that definitely goes on.

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<v Speaker 3>And all those MK ulture techniques that actually comes out

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<v Speaker 3>of studying like shamans and breuhas and bruhos and how

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<v Speaker 3>they were able to use inheogens and various drugs to

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<v Speaker 3>mind control people in the cult.

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<v Speaker 2>And when the CIA study all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>And the shrooms and all that through Gordon Lawson, they

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<v Speaker 3>were trying to look at how shamans were able to

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<v Speaker 1>Damn you know, you know. And then there's then there's

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<v Speaker 1>movies like uh like hm, the New World Order needs

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<v Speaker 1>people in cities. They don't the people that are self sustaining,

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<v Speaker 1>living on their own and farm. That's not good for

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<v Speaker 1>that's not good. Illuminati don't like that, so they want

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<v Speaker 1>what I think there's movies that keep people in cities

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<v Speaker 1>or drive people to the cities if you like you

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<v Speaker 1>look at like like uh, like the movie Deliverance, right, Deliverances,

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<v Speaker 1>some city folk they go out to uh, they go

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<v Speaker 1>river rafting in the woods, and then they get butt fucked.

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<v Speaker 4>By everybody's in bread, right, they're all retarded. The guy

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<v Speaker 4>playing the banjo totally retarded. They're gonna fuck you in

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<v Speaker 4>the ass. If they catch you, you're gonna like a pig.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're dying to give back to the city, like

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<v Speaker 4>the City. It's the safe had same thing with like

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<v Speaker 4>Friday the thirteenth. You know, they're out in the woods.

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<v Speaker 4>There's all these kids, they're all you're trying to have

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<v Speaker 4>fun in the woods. But what you really want to

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<v Speaker 4>do is give back to the city.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because it's retarded. This retarded kid is going to

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<v Speaker 3>chop you up right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And you know you you want to find the cops.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, the cops, and we need to we

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<v Speaker 1>need to go back to the city and find the police.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when you find the police, you find it

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<v Speaker 1>out there in on it too, like they're in on it.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the worst you think.

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<v Speaker 3>Did I was just watch this is so many horror movies, right,

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<v Speaker 3>Like if you think about shit, was that when I

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<v Speaker 3>was just watching The Strangers, right, the whole the last

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<v Speaker 3>this new horror trilogy, The Strangers, that whole theme is

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<v Speaker 3>we're out in the middle of Middle America, Bible Belt,

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<v Speaker 3>and these people just end up there from the city

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<v Speaker 3>and what do you know, the whole city is a

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<v Speaker 3>bunch of psycho.

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<v Speaker 2>Inbreds that are trying to murder people.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, same plot with Texas chain If you go out

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<v Speaker 3>in the country of Texas, a bunch of inbread chainsaw

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<v Speaker 3>cannibals are going to eat. Like every horror movie in

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<v Speaker 3>the last thirty years has that theme. But also TV

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<v Speaker 3>shows people forget that, Like when you watch and I

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<v Speaker 3>like X Files just because it's a fun TV show.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't I don't believe in a lot of the

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<v Speaker 3>propaganda in it. But if you watch X Files, every

422
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<v Speaker 3>time Molder and Scully go to a small town, the

423
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<v Speaker 3>local police are idiots. Only the Feds are sophisticated and intelligent.

424
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<v Speaker 3>Every local cop, every local person, every local official, all they're.

425
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<v Speaker 2>All just retards.

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<v Speaker 3>But only the Feds are the most sophisticated, right, and

427
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<v Speaker 3>they know philosophy and they know ethics and they but

428
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<v Speaker 3>everybody in the city, in the city is that way,

429
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<v Speaker 3>and everybody in the countryside is retarded. That's on purpose, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I don't think every time it's in a plot,

431
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<v Speaker 3>it's on purpose. But I'm saying, like, overall this propaganda

432
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<v Speaker 3>is everywhere, just like now you see like thirteen year

433
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<v Speaker 3>old chicks, right, they're the heroes of every movie. They

434
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<v Speaker 3>can whip everybody's ass. It's just preposterous. But that's by

435
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<v Speaker 3>design to invert everything. So mostly what you see in

436
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<v Speaker 3>films is propaganda, not just for like the state or

437
00:22:04.640 --> 00:22:06.640
<v Speaker 3>for the CIA, there's a lot of that, but also

438
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<v Speaker 3>propaganda in terms of gender and confusing gender, making you

439
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<v Speaker 3>think that all the dudes are a bunch of pussies.

440
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<v Speaker 3>In every chick is like some badass, you know, martial

441
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<v Speaker 3>arts expert, but all the dudes are a bunch of pussies.

442
00:22:19.759 --> 00:22:21.960
<v Speaker 3>Like all that's on purpose, and it actually began if

443
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<v Speaker 3>you go back in the two thousands, there was actually

444
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of commercials that started with that. You would

445
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<v Speaker 3>see commercials for products and the wife runs the house

446
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<v Speaker 3>and she knows everything, and the sitcoms remember this, like

447
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<v Speaker 3>Home Improvement, right, Like the dudes are idiots, the moms

448
00:22:38.400 --> 00:22:40.960
<v Speaker 3>are running everything. Al Bundy, Like that's been going on

449
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<v Speaker 3>for a long time and now it's just now it's

450
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<v Speaker 3>not even adults. It's like the kids are like the

451
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<v Speaker 3>geniuses and run everything like goonies. Right, all the adults

452
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<v Speaker 3>in the eighties movies are retards, but all the little

453
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<v Speaker 3>teenagers know everything that's going on. Right, it's silly, but

454
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<v Speaker 3>home alone exactly right outside those criminals. That's a great example. Yeah,

455
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<v Speaker 3>I forgot about that, but yeah, I mean all of its inversion.

456
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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I forgot about the City. Did you have

457
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<v Speaker 2>a specific.

458
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<v Speaker 3>Movie other than Liternce you were thinking of, because there's

459
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<v Speaker 3>so many like that where they're trying to tell you

460
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<v Speaker 3>to get to the city in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>Well one off the top of my head, and I

462
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<v Speaker 1>know this is real, uh, because the Illuminati, they don't

463
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<v Speaker 1>want self sustaining people in the world. They can't control them.

464
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<v Speaker 1>They want everybody in a city where they control the food,

465
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<v Speaker 1>they control the energy, nobody's growing their.

466
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<v Speaker 2>Own fucking fings exactly.

467
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<v Speaker 1>They want you in total control and dependent on them.

468
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<v Speaker 1>So obviously they don't want people out of the ocean either,

469
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<v Speaker 1>you know, so I think Jaws. Jaws is designed to

470
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<v Speaker 1>go out of the goddamn ocean. It worked on me.

471
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<v Speaker 1>It worked on me because like I'm not, I will

472
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<v Speaker 1>never deep seed dive ever. I never deep seed diving.

473
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<v Speaker 1>There's no fucking way. The second I jump into the

474
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<v Speaker 1>ocean off some boat, I'm already thinking, a sharks, guy,

475
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<v Speaker 1>it's going to attack me. And it was Jaws. Jaws

476
00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.039
<v Speaker 1>did that, and and it did that to a lot

477
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<v Speaker 1>of people.

478
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I remember reading about that.

479
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<v Speaker 3>There was studies done after Jaws that like people's attending

480
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<v Speaker 3>the beach and swimming, like it went down like drastically

481
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<v Speaker 3>percent as wise, like the summer that Jaws came out,

482
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<v Speaker 3>because everybody just assumed that, like that's the power of

483
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<v Speaker 3>what movies used to have. I don't think they have

484
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<v Speaker 3>as much power anymore, but nobody has the power they

485
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<v Speaker 3>had back then.

486
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<v Speaker 1>The movie theaters around here, they're being rented out for

487
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<v Speaker 1>like lectures and seminars exactly.

488
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's crazy.

489
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<v Speaker 3>I mean COVID, like COVID did a huge number on

490
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<v Speaker 3>movie theaters, Like they just collapsed after COVID so and

491
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<v Speaker 3>they were some of the biggest supporters of all the

492
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<v Speaker 3>COVID stuff, So I mean they ruined their own industry.

493
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<v Speaker 2>But but yeah, I.

494
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<v Speaker 3>Mean that's that's a that's a good point about the oceans.

495
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<v Speaker 3>And I mean think back though to the like the

496
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<v Speaker 3>eighties and the nineties, right they started putting Arab terrorists

497
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<v Speaker 3>into the movies. First one I can think of is

498
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<v Speaker 3>the Libyan terrorist in Back to the Future, right, because

499
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<v Speaker 3>they show up, they start shooting everybody who had even

500
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<v Speaker 3>heard of Libyan terrorists in the nineteen eighties when Back

501
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<v Speaker 3>to the Future came out, then you had True Lies.

502
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<v Speaker 3>And in the plot of True Lies is one of

503
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<v Speaker 3>the first movies, big blockbusters to have Arab terrorists as

504
00:25:13.359 --> 00:25:15.240
<v Speaker 3>the That was way before nine to eleven too, right,

505
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<v Speaker 3>So you had these films coming out kind of preparing

506
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<v Speaker 3>for the war on terror. I think the gel James

507
00:25:21.720 --> 00:25:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Bond franchise does that too, because in the in the

508
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<v Speaker 3>Cold War, you didn't typically think about it as terror.

509
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<v Speaker 3>You thought about it like, oh, there's Soviets and there's

510
00:25:31.079 --> 00:25:34.720
<v Speaker 3>you know, there's a Marxist spies everywhere. Because of the

511
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<v Speaker 3>movies in James Bond, and then in James Bond it

512
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<v Speaker 3>transitions in the fiction into an international terror organization called

513
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<v Speaker 3>Specter Inspector in James Bond stories replaces Smirsh, which was

514
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<v Speaker 3>Soviet counter intelligence, so it's and that was real. It

515
00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.279
<v Speaker 3>was called Smirsh by Stalin, and then it becomes Specter

516
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<v Speaker 3>in the stories and the Spector is an international terrorist organization.

517
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<v Speaker 3>So Ian Fleming was writing about that decades before there

518
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<v Speaker 3>was a war on terror. And then we have net

519
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<v Speaker 3>Yahoo and a bunch of people meeting in the early

520
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<v Speaker 3>eighties at this meeting. It's a very famous me I

521
00:26:14.039 --> 00:26:15.839
<v Speaker 3>think Brazenski was at this big meeting, and they were

522
00:26:15.880 --> 00:26:19.799
<v Speaker 3>preparing everybody for the coming war on terror. And then

523
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<v Speaker 3>you see Hollywood begin to push these plots and these

524
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<v Speaker 3>these narratives of a coming war on terror, and then

525
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<v Speaker 3>into the nineties, it's just it explodes right the closer

526
00:26:30.160 --> 00:26:32.079
<v Speaker 3>that we get up to the Big nine event, there's

527
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<v Speaker 3>all these films and I'm not pro Islam at all.

528
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<v Speaker 2>I've been studying Islam for about eight years.

529
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<v Speaker 3>And I can say as a person very critical of Islam,

530
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<v Speaker 3>and I still think that, you know, that was all

531
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<v Speaker 3>prepped for through propaganda.

532
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it seems I mean, I don't know shit, but

533
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<v Speaker 1>it seems like Al Qaeda, the Taliban and all these

534
00:26:52.359 --> 00:26:57.799
<v Speaker 1>terrorist groups isis and they were funded and trained by

535
00:26:58.640 --> 00:27:05.839
<v Speaker 1>uh yous intelligence and other countries intelligence too. Oh uh,

536
00:27:05.880 --> 00:27:08.400
<v Speaker 1>Like what the fuck is that? And then now recently

537
00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.000
<v Speaker 1>last week, I'm sure you heard about this, they busted

538
00:27:11.759 --> 00:27:20.119
<v Speaker 1>some NGO that was funding KKK groups like I swear

539
00:27:20.440 --> 00:27:23.519
<v Speaker 1>to god, you could find it on a podcast I've

540
00:27:23.519 --> 00:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>done before. I've said it many times. I wouldn't be.

541
00:27:26.519 --> 00:27:28.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know shit, I have no evidence, but I

542
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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't be surprised if KKK is being funded by the

543
00:27:32.160 --> 00:27:35.240
<v Speaker 1>CII wouldn't be. That wouldn't shock me at all because

544
00:27:35.519 --> 00:27:40.160
<v Speaker 1>it promotes the whole They need racism, And it's pretty

545
00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:44.559
<v Speaker 1>fucking obvious that deep state, Illuminati or whatever you want

546
00:27:44.559 --> 00:27:48.559
<v Speaker 1>to call it, they promote racism. They want that divide.

547
00:27:48.599 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 1>They want black people to hate white people, and white

548
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:54.119
<v Speaker 1>people they hate black people. They want so they it's

549
00:27:54.200 --> 00:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>like a it's like a hoax. It's like like they're

550
00:28:00.680 --> 00:28:03.400
<v Speaker 1>pushing it. They want it. You know, obviously there are

551
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:07.079
<v Speaker 1>racist white people, there are racist black people. But to

552
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>gather them and to promote them and to build them

553
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 1>and pay them to do racist thing, come on, right,

554
00:28:18.960 --> 00:28:24.319
<v Speaker 1>come on, I wouldn't be this. The other day, my

555
00:28:24.359 --> 00:28:27.000
<v Speaker 1>school's downtown, LA and there was like this nice car

556
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:30.079
<v Speaker 1>part down the street and some guys are coming out

557
00:28:30.079 --> 00:28:32.759
<v Speaker 1>of it with hoodies and everything, and they were tagging

558
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:36.640
<v Speaker 1>the walls and I'm like, I'm like you know what, Damn,

559
00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:41.759
<v Speaker 1>I bet there's a there's there's a budget for graffiti

560
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<v Speaker 1>in a city, like it's probably like, you know, ten

561
00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>million dollars a year or whatever to to pay for

562
00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.640
<v Speaker 1>anti graffiti stuff like to paint over graffiti. There's got

563
00:28:53.759 --> 00:28:56.759
<v Speaker 1>a budget for it. So I wouldn't doubt just like

564
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<v Speaker 1>the homeless, they need homeless to keep the money coming in,

565
00:29:00.000 --> 00:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>and they can't eradicate homelessness because then they wouldn't the

566
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:05.200
<v Speaker 1>money wouldn't be coming in. So I thought, like, I

567
00:29:05.359 --> 00:29:08.920
<v Speaker 1>bet they're paying fucking graffiti artists to go out and

568
00:29:08.960 --> 00:29:12.039
<v Speaker 1>spray paint and ruin shit to keep the money coming in.

569
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<v Speaker 3>That's a real yeah. I never even thought about that

570
00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:17.839
<v Speaker 3>with graffiti. But that's actually a really perceptive point. And

571
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<v Speaker 3>once you realize over the years, and I know you've

572
00:29:20.920 --> 00:29:23.400
<v Speaker 3>been knowing this for decades too, like you start to

573
00:29:23.400 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 3>see over and over and over all this all of

574
00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:29.519
<v Speaker 3>these problems are usually connected to the establishment in some way,

575
00:29:30.079 --> 00:29:32.839
<v Speaker 3>as if the establishment, the establishment gives a perspective that

576
00:29:32.880 --> 00:29:35.559
<v Speaker 3>they want to fix all the problems, Well, the establishment's

577
00:29:35.599 --> 00:29:38.759
<v Speaker 3>existence is predicated on there being all these problems, so

578
00:29:38.839 --> 00:29:41.200
<v Speaker 3>they foster the problem. The great example of this, if

579
00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:47.359
<v Speaker 3>you remember, is RoboCop. The plot of RoboCop is awesome.

580
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:49.440
<v Speaker 3>If you remember, you got to go back and watch it.

581
00:29:49.440 --> 00:29:50.920
<v Speaker 3>If you haven't seen a while, because I'm over the

582
00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:53.680
<v Speaker 3>older twenty years, you got to watch it. So basically

583
00:29:53.880 --> 00:29:58.640
<v Speaker 3>i'll spoil it. But they are creating this corporation owns

584
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:02.759
<v Speaker 3>the cops and they're create these robot cops and AI

585
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:07.160
<v Speaker 3>cops right to run everything for the on the police side.

586
00:30:07.720 --> 00:30:10.599
<v Speaker 3>And at the same time the corporation is running the

587
00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:15.319
<v Speaker 3>gangs and the drugs and the cops. So they want

588
00:30:15.720 --> 00:30:20.039
<v Speaker 3>the corruption to justify all the corporate funding and that

589
00:30:20.319 --> 00:30:22.640
<v Speaker 3>they give because it's a future corporate police.

590
00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.680
<v Speaker 2>State that they get from all the crime. And they

591
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<v Speaker 2>need both.

592
00:30:26.279 --> 00:30:28.720
<v Speaker 3>They need the dialectic of all the of the police

593
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<v Speaker 3>state AI cops, and they need at the same time

594
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<v Speaker 3>all the criminals in a ongoing, never ending war, just

595
00:30:37.640 --> 00:30:39.440
<v Speaker 3>like the War on terror. Remember they said it was infinite,

596
00:30:39.480 --> 00:30:41.720
<v Speaker 3>it will never end. John McCain said that the war

597
00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:43.559
<v Speaker 3>on terror is a never ending war because you can

598
00:30:43.599 --> 00:30:49.440
<v Speaker 3>never stop terror. So infinite war and perpetual war is

599
00:30:49.839 --> 00:30:51.039
<v Speaker 3>the health of the deep state.

600
00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:52.200
<v Speaker 2>It's the life of the deep state.

601
00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:54.640
<v Speaker 3>That's why we can never stop doing these wars once

602
00:30:54.680 --> 00:30:57.400
<v Speaker 3>you get and even people outside of the conspiracy world,

603
00:30:57.480 --> 00:31:00.000
<v Speaker 3>even people just in economics, right, people that are critique

604
00:31:00.119 --> 00:31:04.039
<v Speaker 3>King Kanesian economics, they figured out that the whole economic

605
00:31:04.079 --> 00:31:07.000
<v Speaker 3>system of the last century and even now Knesianism is

606
00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:10.759
<v Speaker 3>based on perpetual war because war is the health of

607
00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:15.599
<v Speaker 3>the state. So you have to have perpetual conflict, perpetual

608
00:31:15.680 --> 00:31:19.680
<v Speaker 3>as you said, domestic terrorists, racist, it has to be funded.

609
00:31:19.720 --> 00:31:22.319
<v Speaker 3>And we said right after Charlottesville. We did a podcast

610
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<v Speaker 3>in twenty seventeen, right after that happened, and everybody on

611
00:31:26.119 --> 00:31:30.319
<v Speaker 3>the like, this is obviously a controlled, funded, fed thing, right,

612
00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 3>we all kind of knew that. We sense that and

613
00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:34.880
<v Speaker 3>everybody because I've been listening to Alex in two thousand

614
00:31:34.880 --> 00:31:37.160
<v Speaker 3>and three. Alix was talking about fake fed you know,

615
00:31:37.240 --> 00:31:39.799
<v Speaker 3>racist groups back in two thousand and three. That's when

616
00:31:39.799 --> 00:31:41.599
<v Speaker 3>I first heard him. He probably talked about it before that,

617
00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:45.720
<v Speaker 3>because people started noticing this with OKC, because people forget

618
00:31:45.759 --> 00:31:49.279
<v Speaker 3>that Timothy McVeigh, whatever you think about him, whether he's patsy,

619
00:31:49.319 --> 00:31:51.400
<v Speaker 3>I think it's probably a patsy, but he was part

620
00:31:51.440 --> 00:31:55.559
<v Speaker 3>of that fake Christian identity group called Elaheim City, which

621
00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:58.960
<v Speaker 3>was a bunch of Feds running a honey trap that

622
00:31:59.119 --> 00:32:03.039
<v Speaker 3>was behind the OKC event. And Christian identity doesn't mean

623
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:04.160
<v Speaker 3>you identify as a Christian.

624
00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:05.400
<v Speaker 2>It's a cult that.

625
00:32:05.440 --> 00:32:09.279
<v Speaker 3>Believes that white people are the lost tribes and that

626
00:32:09.400 --> 00:32:13.359
<v Speaker 3>other races of people are the product of Satan having

627
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 3>sex with Eve. So the irony is that that's kind

628
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<v Speaker 3>of like a Talmudic It's like a cabalistic idea that

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<v Speaker 3>sex with Eve produced certain races of people. But these

630
00:32:25.839 --> 00:32:30.200
<v Speaker 3>Christian identity idiots who believe the serpent seed theory, they're

631
00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:36.200
<v Speaker 3>actually believing like Zohar kabbalistic mythology. So point bing is

632
00:32:36.240 --> 00:32:39.960
<v Speaker 3>like always these groups are always, especially they're really radical.

633
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<v Speaker 2>I put it this way, I asked.

634
00:32:41.559 --> 00:32:44.359
<v Speaker 3>I had John Kuriyaku, the whistleblower from the CIA on.

635
00:32:44.640 --> 00:32:47.400
<v Speaker 3>We did a long podcast the other day and I

636
00:32:47.440 --> 00:32:50.319
<v Speaker 3>basically just went through all of my conspiracy theories, and

637
00:32:50.359 --> 00:32:51.559
<v Speaker 3>I was like, do you think this was true? What

638
00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:53.279
<v Speaker 3>about this one? What about this? What about this one?

639
00:32:53.400 --> 00:32:54.839
<v Speaker 3>Pretty much everything I brought up.

640
00:32:54.960 --> 00:32:55.519
<v Speaker 2>He agreed.

641
00:32:56.000 --> 00:32:58.440
<v Speaker 1>I saw a bit of that, and I've seen him

642
00:32:58.480 --> 00:33:01.359
<v Speaker 1>on other podcasts. He was on Tucker Carlson too as well.

643
00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:06.480
<v Speaker 1>How is he allowed to be alive. I mean once

644
00:33:06.519 --> 00:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>your CIA like.

645
00:33:08.119 --> 00:33:11.319
<v Speaker 3>Like well, in his case, I mean, he was a

646
00:33:11.559 --> 00:33:14.319
<v Speaker 3>he was a famous case where Obama put him in prison.

647
00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.519
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, unless one believes that all that was fake,

648
00:33:17.559 --> 00:33:18.920
<v Speaker 3>I don't think that was fake. I think he really

649
00:33:18.920 --> 00:33:23.960
<v Speaker 3>did go to prison. How long I forget exactly, I

650
00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 3>mean it was I think he.

651
00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Was there for a year or two.

652
00:33:25.920 --> 00:33:31.759
<v Speaker 3>But but I mean it's like, like you mentioned last

653
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<v Speaker 3>time we did a podcast Stockwell, you mentioned his I went,

654
00:33:35.920 --> 00:33:37.400
<v Speaker 3>I bought the book that did the whole podcast on

655
00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:38.000
<v Speaker 3>it after.

656
00:33:37.799 --> 00:33:38.720
<v Speaker 2>You mentioned it.

657
00:33:38.759 --> 00:33:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Is he still alive?

658
00:33:40.720 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 2>Is he still alive?

659
00:33:41.759 --> 00:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, John Stockwell, because he was the main guy I

660
00:33:44.000 --> 00:33:47.079
<v Speaker 1>would listen to. But this was back before, right, like

661
00:33:47.680 --> 00:33:49.279
<v Speaker 1>this was early YouTube days.

662
00:33:51.279 --> 00:33:53.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I bought that book and I thought it was

663
00:33:54.000 --> 00:33:56.200
<v Speaker 3>really cool because I didn't know much about the CIA

664
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:59.079
<v Speaker 3>operations in Africa. So you recommended that and I went

665
00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:00.599
<v Speaker 3>and read it to the podcast. So I'm just saying,

666
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:04.720
<v Speaker 3>like I don't really see. One thing I would say

667
00:34:04.759 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 3>about whistleblowers is like a good indicator whether or not

668
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:11.920
<v Speaker 3>they're authentic or not, is if you let them, if

669
00:34:11.920 --> 00:34:14.079
<v Speaker 3>you listen to them and watch them overtime, If they

670
00:34:14.440 --> 00:34:18.960
<v Speaker 3>can consistently say the same types of messages and don't

671
00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:22.519
<v Speaker 3>steer off into something crazy, then I think they're probably authentic.

672
00:34:23.320 --> 00:34:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Because if somebody is a fake whistleblower, which are there

673
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:28.280
<v Speaker 3>are some of those, what they'll do is they'll come

674
00:34:28.280 --> 00:34:30.639
<v Speaker 3>out with a bunch of true stuff and then they'll

675
00:34:30.639 --> 00:34:33.519
<v Speaker 3>start steering it into the more and more just retarded.

676
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:34.199
<v Speaker 2>Shit on purpose.

677
00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:35.639
<v Speaker 1>John Lee do you remember him.

678
00:34:36.880 --> 00:34:37.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

679
00:34:37.280 --> 00:34:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And then Robert David Steele.

680
00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:41.760
<v Speaker 3>That was the dude that went on Alex and he

681
00:34:41.840 --> 00:34:45.480
<v Speaker 3>had all this information about PDF and networks of Satanists

682
00:34:45.519 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 3>and all that, and then he started saying that, oh,

683
00:34:47.519 --> 00:34:53.639
<v Speaker 3>we're farming out all the children on Mars and slave colonies. Yeah,

684
00:34:53.679 --> 00:34:54.960
<v Speaker 3>it was all in the news because he went on

685
00:34:55.000 --> 00:34:57.760
<v Speaker 3>Alex to say that. So that's an example I think

686
00:34:57.800 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 3>of like fake whistleblower, but I mean curiosit. He's always

687
00:35:00.440 --> 00:35:01.880
<v Speaker 3>had a pretty consistent.

688
00:35:01.599 --> 00:35:03.719
<v Speaker 1>Damn I thought Robert David Steel was legit.

689
00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Now look up his Mars baby bullshit stuff.

690
00:35:08.800 --> 00:35:13.280
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, God, damn it. I was really into that dude.

691
00:35:13.320 --> 00:35:14.719
<v Speaker 1>I thought he was the truth.

692
00:35:16.400 --> 00:35:18.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, I think Karaoku is incredible. I don't think that

693
00:35:18.519 --> 00:35:22.079
<v Speaker 3>guy's credible. That's my assessment, but you know, I mean

694
00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:23.719
<v Speaker 3>I could look, I'm not exactly sure how long he

695
00:35:23.800 --> 00:35:24.199
<v Speaker 3>was in jail.

696
00:35:24.280 --> 00:35:26.159
<v Speaker 2>It's it was at least I think I heard a

697
00:35:26.199 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 2>year or two. Anyway, point being.

698
00:35:28.159 --> 00:35:32.079
<v Speaker 3>Is like when I asked him his assessment of controlled opposition,

699
00:35:32.519 --> 00:35:35.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, fake terror groups all that, he was pretty

700
00:35:35.519 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 3>much just like yeah, absolutely man.

701
00:35:39.039 --> 00:35:44.519
<v Speaker 1>You know, and do you think that like the big

702
00:35:44.559 --> 00:35:48.639
<v Speaker 1>movie companies, you know, like Works or New Line Cinema,

703
00:35:48.760 --> 00:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>like all the big ones come or whatever. Do you

704
00:35:52.000 --> 00:35:57.119
<v Speaker 1>think they because you always hear about script writers they

705
00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>sell their script to a movie company and then by

706
00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.480
<v Speaker 1>the time the movie comes out, they totally switch the script.

707
00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:07.840
<v Speaker 1>They change it so much and they're like not happy

708
00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.480
<v Speaker 1>with it. You hear that all the time. Do you think,

709
00:36:11.039 --> 00:36:14.840
<v Speaker 1>like you know, the Illuminati, the deep State, whoever they are,

710
00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:19.039
<v Speaker 1>the people at the top running a cinema, do you think,

711
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:22.199
<v Speaker 1>like I say, probably, it's probably easier for them to

712
00:36:22.280 --> 00:36:25.800
<v Speaker 1>take a legit script written by someone who is considered

713
00:36:26.559 --> 00:36:30.639
<v Speaker 1>a legit writer who writes all day, take their script,

714
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:33.519
<v Speaker 1>look at it and see how they could propagandize it,

715
00:36:33.760 --> 00:36:36.199
<v Speaker 1>and then they buy it based on that, yes, like

716
00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:38.199
<v Speaker 1>oh we'll do that. Oh no, this is a good script.

717
00:36:38.280 --> 00:36:40.960
<v Speaker 1>They did all the work for him, right, and instead

718
00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>of like coming up with a story from scratch, which

719
00:36:43.840 --> 00:36:46.519
<v Speaker 1>they probably do sometimes, but most of the time, it

720
00:36:46.519 --> 00:36:49.199
<v Speaker 1>would be easier for them to just let these legit

721
00:36:49.679 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>script writers write a script and then they look at

722
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:56.559
<v Speaker 1>the script and they buy them based on how easily

723
00:36:56.599 --> 00:36:58.239
<v Speaker 1>they are to propagandize.

724
00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:01.159
<v Speaker 2>You think it works like that, absolutely, at least that's

725
00:37:01.199 --> 00:37:01.760
<v Speaker 2>part of it.

726
00:37:02.079 --> 00:37:08.039
<v Speaker 3>And as far as I can recall, nobody even knew

727
00:37:08.039 --> 00:37:11.920
<v Speaker 3>about this whole idea of a connection between CIA or

728
00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:16.679
<v Speaker 3>Pentagon and Hollywood or State Department in Hollywood until two

729
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:19.239
<v Speaker 3>thousand and three, is as far as I'm aware.

730
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.639
<v Speaker 2>Because I was studying this not as a conspiracy theorist.

731
00:37:21.679 --> 00:37:23.639
<v Speaker 3>I was studying this in grad school, right, so I

732
00:37:23.840 --> 00:37:25.800
<v Speaker 3>heard conspiracy suff but I wasn't when I was in

733
00:37:25.800 --> 00:37:28.519
<v Speaker 3>grad school. I wanted to see, like, Okay, here's all

734
00:37:28.519 --> 00:37:32.000
<v Speaker 3>these theories about movies and intelligence.

735
00:37:32.039 --> 00:37:33.599
<v Speaker 2>Can we actually back this up?

736
00:37:33.639 --> 00:37:36.199
<v Speaker 3>And in two thousand and three, I wasn't reading this

737
00:37:36.199 --> 00:37:37.559
<v Speaker 3>book in tw thousand and three, But I'm saying this.

738
00:37:37.760 --> 00:37:41.079
<v Speaker 3>The first book that I'm aware of in academia was

739
00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:43.920
<v Speaker 3>a book called Operation Hollywood.

740
00:37:43.960 --> 00:37:46.880
<v Speaker 2>I think the guy's named Donald Bain, so noe. Remember

741
00:37:46.880 --> 00:37:47.320
<v Speaker 2>this is in.

742
00:37:47.599 --> 00:37:50.760
<v Speaker 3>Academic publishing, This is not conspiracy world stuff. So they

743
00:37:50.800 --> 00:37:53.679
<v Speaker 3>put out a book called Operation Hollywood because people started

744
00:37:53.719 --> 00:37:56.960
<v Speaker 3>noticing amongst academic amongst academics, probably just a bunch of

745
00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:00.000
<v Speaker 3>like mainline leftist people, they started noticing right after nine

746
00:38:00.000 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 3>eleven that there was this really close alliance and connection

747
00:38:03.400 --> 00:38:07.960
<v Speaker 3>between the Pentagon State Department, CIA and Hollywood and what

748
00:38:08.239 --> 00:38:09.800
<v Speaker 3>was coming out in terms of scripts.

749
00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:11.079
<v Speaker 2>So that whole book.

750
00:38:11.639 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 3>Is a review of like Tom Clancy movies, Jack Ryan right,

751
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 3>movies like Top Gun, you know that kind.

752
00:38:24.000 --> 00:38:26.280
<v Speaker 1>Of huh black hawk Down?

753
00:38:26.719 --> 00:38:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that.

754
00:38:28.119 --> 00:38:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Book came out before Black hawk Down I think, or

755
00:38:30.880 --> 00:38:32.760
<v Speaker 3>was that late. I can't remember when black Hawk Down

756
00:38:32.800 --> 00:38:34.760
<v Speaker 3>came out, but that book was published in two thousand

757
00:38:34.760 --> 00:38:36.599
<v Speaker 3>and three. So basically just looking at movies prior to

758
00:38:36.639 --> 00:38:40.360
<v Speaker 3>two thousand and three, and it was basically saying and

759
00:38:40.440 --> 00:38:46.639
<v Speaker 3>showing all the areas where Pentagon, Army, FBI, like all

760
00:38:46.679 --> 00:38:51.480
<v Speaker 3>of these agencies would critique. They would change the scripts right,

761
00:38:51.519 --> 00:38:53.599
<v Speaker 3>So basically a lot of times they would say, we

762
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:56.719
<v Speaker 3>want you to present the Navy in a more positive way.

763
00:38:56.760 --> 00:39:00.719
<v Speaker 3>We want you to put you know, recruitment propaganda in

764
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.880
<v Speaker 3>the film we want you to change this person's dialogue

765
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.079
<v Speaker 3>few good men I know that was in there, Remember that,

766
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.280
<v Speaker 3>like I want the truth, you can't handle the truth.

767
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:11.360
<v Speaker 2>Remember that kind of shit?

768
00:39:11.480 --> 00:39:15.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's all was propaganda stuff that was tweaked, and

769
00:39:15.800 --> 00:39:18.880
<v Speaker 3>that was just looking at that stuff at a very

770
00:39:18.920 --> 00:39:19.760
<v Speaker 3>basic level.

771
00:39:19.800 --> 00:39:20.360
<v Speaker 2>And then.

772
00:39:21.719 --> 00:39:26.800
<v Speaker 3>This was funny because remember that movie The Recruit with Colin.

773
00:39:26.519 --> 00:39:30.639
<v Speaker 2>Ferrell and didn't see it, you should.

774
00:39:30.320 --> 00:39:34.559
<v Speaker 3>Watch it because it's Al Pacino and Colin Farrell and

775
00:39:34.599 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 3>it's one of the first post nine to eleven movies

776
00:39:37.679 --> 00:39:41.679
<v Speaker 3>where they openly admitted that the CIA was consulting on

777
00:39:41.760 --> 00:39:45.360
<v Speaker 3>the making of the movie and that it was partly propaganda.

778
00:39:45.400 --> 00:39:48.559
<v Speaker 3>And what's funny about that movie is that Al Pacino

779
00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:52.199
<v Speaker 3>is the CIA handler to Colin Ferrell when he's recruited

780
00:39:52.199 --> 00:39:57.000
<v Speaker 3>into the CIA, and al Pacino's corrupt, so his handler

781
00:39:57.119 --> 00:40:00.400
<v Speaker 3>is evil and he ends up getting exposed those like

782
00:40:00.440 --> 00:40:04.119
<v Speaker 3>this criminal. But even before that, right, if you watch

783
00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.960
<v Speaker 3>movie the movie Three Days of the Condor. In that movie,

784
00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:11.280
<v Speaker 3>Robert Redford, his handler is corrupt in the CIA as well,

785
00:40:11.360 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 3>So it's like there were these little inklings that the

786
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.639
<v Speaker 3>CIA was a corrupt organization in the movies that the

787
00:40:17.679 --> 00:40:20.360
<v Speaker 3>CIA even had a role in making, and what they

788
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.280
<v Speaker 3>admitted in the two thousand and three Recruit movie if

789
00:40:22.280 --> 00:40:24.920
<v Speaker 3>you watch the DVD extras, I remember watching that when

790
00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:26.400
<v Speaker 3>I watched because I bought the DVD and I was

791
00:40:26.440 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 3>watching that long time ago, and they had the interview

792
00:40:29.360 --> 00:40:34.039
<v Speaker 3>the CIA consultant from the CIA to Hollywood on that movie,

793
00:40:34.079 --> 00:40:35.400
<v Speaker 3>and they're like, yeah, this is one of the first

794
00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:38.960
<v Speaker 3>openly made CIA movies. Now, the CI had been secretly

795
00:40:39.000 --> 00:40:41.800
<v Speaker 3>working with Hollywood for many years, all the way back

796
00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 3>to the Cold War, all the way back to the

797
00:40:43.480 --> 00:40:46.400
<v Speaker 3>OSS to get people involved in World War Two. But

798
00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.719
<v Speaker 3>now it was open, and so Chase Brand and Milt

799
00:40:49.760 --> 00:40:50.960
<v Speaker 3>Beard and they came out.

800
00:40:51.000 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 2>And then people figured.

801
00:40:51.800 --> 00:40:53.599
<v Speaker 3>Out, oh wait a minute, that movie Wagged the Dog,

802
00:40:54.320 --> 00:40:57.480
<v Speaker 3>like the Robert de Niro characters actually based on Chase

803
00:40:57.480 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 3>Brand and mil Beard.

804
00:40:58.679 --> 00:40:59.760
<v Speaker 2>And have you ever seen Waged the Dog.

805
00:41:02.000 --> 00:41:05.400
<v Speaker 1>That's the one where they're just filming fake war footage,

806
00:41:05.480 --> 00:41:06.119
<v Speaker 1>is like twenty that.

807
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:09.840
<v Speaker 3>They are, but the movie is about Robert de Niro

808
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:12.880
<v Speaker 3>comes as the CIA guy. I got to watch that

809
00:41:12.920 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 3>again telling the Hollywood people how to make the movie.

810
00:41:16.480 --> 00:41:22.280
<v Speaker 3>And then when Dustin Hoffman, who's the director. He's like

811
00:41:22.320 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 3>the like a movie director type of dude. When he

812
00:41:25.039 --> 00:41:26.719
<v Speaker 3>ends up not making the movie they want, they just

813
00:41:26.760 --> 00:41:30.679
<v Speaker 3>assassinate him. It's a crazy movie, but it's very revelatory.

814
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.199
<v Speaker 3>In fact, I put that one in the first book.

815
00:41:32.239 --> 00:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>So long story short, yeah, I think this is like

816
00:41:34.599 --> 00:41:39.239
<v Speaker 3>that's a great window into how there's the there's an

817
00:41:39.280 --> 00:41:44.559
<v Speaker 3>elite structure of people at the Pentagon and in Hollywood,

818
00:41:44.599 --> 00:41:46.679
<v Speaker 3>and they absolutely work together and they have for a

819
00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:48.880
<v Speaker 3>long time, all the way back to World War two. Man.

820
00:41:50.000 --> 00:41:52.320
<v Speaker 2>For this third book that I wrote on Hollywood.

821
00:41:52.199 --> 00:41:55.239
<v Speaker 3>I went back and got into like archives that they

822
00:41:55.320 --> 00:41:59.159
<v Speaker 3>do classified and like tons of those old era like

823
00:41:59.280 --> 00:42:03.400
<v Speaker 3>noir forties people they were making propaganda and they were

824
00:42:03.519 --> 00:42:07.880
<v Speaker 3>using the Hollywood people as spies. Even back then, a

825
00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.880
<v Speaker 3>bunch of those people were working for the OSS and

826
00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:10.440
<v Speaker 3>the CIA.

827
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like, uh, Team America.

828
00:42:16.199 --> 00:42:19.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there it is, except Team America is way more

829
00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:21.760
<v Speaker 3>accurate as satire than you think, right, And it's not

830
00:42:21.880 --> 00:42:23.760
<v Speaker 3>just like the Matt Damon Ben athlete.

831
00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:24.119
<v Speaker 2>Everybody.

832
00:42:24.320 --> 00:42:26.760
<v Speaker 3>Everybody knows like Matt Damon and Ben Afflet were with

833
00:42:26.760 --> 00:42:28.360
<v Speaker 3>the CIA because they bragged about it and they talked

834
00:42:28.360 --> 00:42:28.760
<v Speaker 3>about it.

835
00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but uh, like Argo probably right, who George Clooney,

836
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:36.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh yeah, he's an obvious one.

837
00:42:36.119 --> 00:42:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think the obvious ones are pretty transparent.

838
00:42:40.079 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 2>Like And when I was interviewing.

839
00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:46.039
<v Speaker 3>Karaoke, he was talking about how the CIA consults Hollywood

840
00:42:46.079 --> 00:42:48.360
<v Speaker 3>and what movies and TV shows, and he said, you know,

841
00:42:48.400 --> 00:42:51.280
<v Speaker 3>you could look at the Americans the CIA consulted movie

842
00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:52.519
<v Speaker 3>urse TV show.

843
00:42:52.920 --> 00:42:53.639
<v Speaker 2>It's a great show.

844
00:42:53.679 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 3>By the way, Homeland with Claire Danes, twenty four, you know,

845
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:03.000
<v Speaker 3>Key for Sutherland, that show.

846
00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:05.880
<v Speaker 2>Uh, those are all like propaganda for sure.

847
00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I mean one of the most propaganda movies of all

848
00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:11.679
<v Speaker 1>times was one of my favorite movies is Rocky four.

849
00:43:12.159 --> 00:43:15.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean that was like in your face during the

850
00:43:16.760 --> 00:43:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Russian oh.

851
00:43:17.840 --> 00:43:19.360
<v Speaker 3>That Ivonne or whatever.

852
00:43:19.440 --> 00:43:25.480
<v Speaker 4>I remember that it was Draco's Rocco.

853
00:43:25.920 --> 00:43:29.639
<v Speaker 1>I think, so, yeah, that was it was all US

854
00:43:30.400 --> 00:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>versus Russia. You know Drago is it's Drago.

855
00:43:35.440 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 4>He's uh, you know it was Dolph Lounger when the

856
00:43:38.519 --> 00:43:42.320
<v Speaker 4>Dolph Longer. Yes, yeah, on steroids. He's training like in

857
00:43:42.400 --> 00:43:46.599
<v Speaker 4>a science lab and he's a super soldier. Yeah yeah,

858
00:43:46.679 --> 00:43:51.840
<v Speaker 4>And Rocky's training in the snow. He's doing pull ups.

859
00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 1>In a cabin and then like the whole fight sequence.

860
00:43:55.119 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 3>That's America, dude. That's why America. When America goes to

861
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:59.079
<v Speaker 3>the Moon, they play golf. Dude.

862
00:43:59.320 --> 00:44:02.480
<v Speaker 2>That's how bad I so America is, right right.

863
00:44:02.480 --> 00:44:04.199
<v Speaker 1>I think of what do you think of Artemis that

864
00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:05.159
<v Speaker 1>thing a month ago?

865
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:08.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh, I didn't pay attention toy of that ship. I

866
00:44:08.599 --> 00:44:10.719
<v Speaker 3>just I just assume it's all faking gay.

867
00:44:10.960 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yeah yeah. And then and then like Rambo

868
00:44:15.199 --> 00:44:18.840
<v Speaker 1>against Slone, he got all into you know, he went

869
00:44:18.880 --> 00:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>to it. Didn't it turn into like a Middle Eastern.

870
00:44:22.559 --> 00:44:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the second I think it's Rambo two. It actually

871
00:44:26.320 --> 00:44:28.039
<v Speaker 3>used to say, I think they took this out of

872
00:44:28.159 --> 00:44:30.159
<v Speaker 3>the movie. By the way, at the beginning of the film,

873
00:44:30.199 --> 00:44:32.400
<v Speaker 3>you can still find this on YouTube, and like old

874
00:44:32.519 --> 00:44:36.880
<v Speaker 3>versions of it, they dedicate the movie to the brave

875
00:44:37.559 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 3>al Qaeda fighters, the Mujahadeen.

876
00:44:40.599 --> 00:44:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Do you know that?

877
00:44:41.639 --> 00:44:45.000
<v Speaker 3>No, Yes, the movie is dedicated to the Mujahideen, which

878
00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.719
<v Speaker 3>is al Qaeda, because that took plate huh.

879
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>So that's when at that time Ida was a good guy.

880
00:44:51.960 --> 00:44:52.840
<v Speaker 2>They were, they were.

881
00:44:52.920 --> 00:44:57.480
<v Speaker 3>That was when they formed al Qaeda under Brazenski, Carter

882
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:01.639
<v Speaker 3>and Gates to be the CIA's prox force in Afghanistan

883
00:45:01.760 --> 00:45:05.880
<v Speaker 3>fighting the Soviets, and that's when they invited the mujaidin

884
00:45:05.960 --> 00:45:07.320
<v Speaker 3>to the White House. You can go look up those

885
00:45:07.360 --> 00:45:10.159
<v Speaker 3>pictures where Ronald Reagan is sitting in the White House

886
00:45:10.280 --> 00:45:13.760
<v Speaker 3>with al Qaeda. Basically that's the early days of al

887
00:45:13.840 --> 00:45:18.239
<v Speaker 3>Qaeda when and the top trainer was Bin Laden. He

888
00:45:18.360 --> 00:45:21.000
<v Speaker 3>was the top guy that trained all those Mujahidin guys.

889
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:26.000
<v Speaker 3>As late as nineteen ninety three, I think yeah, because

890
00:45:26.000 --> 00:45:28.280
<v Speaker 3>I just did a whole podcast on this from Max

891
00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:32.000
<v Speaker 3>Blumenthal's book Management of Savagery. But as late as nineteen

892
00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:37.719
<v Speaker 3>ninety three, the Western media was still running positive articles

893
00:45:37.760 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 3>about Ben Lauden. You can look up the Ben Laden article.

894
00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.719
<v Speaker 3>I think it's either the London Telegraph or the London Independent.

895
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.159
<v Speaker 3>They have this giant assessment of how awesome and how

896
00:45:47.280 --> 00:45:50.639
<v Speaker 3>heroic Ben Lauden was. And then right after that, maybe

897
00:45:50.639 --> 00:45:52.880
<v Speaker 3>it might have been nineteen ninety one, nineteen ninety one, ninety.

898
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Three somewhere there.

899
00:45:53.360 --> 00:45:55.679
<v Speaker 3>Right after that you have the USS coal bombing and

900
00:45:55.920 --> 00:45:57.800
<v Speaker 3>Ben Lauden takes credit for that.

901
00:45:59.079 --> 00:46:02.039
<v Speaker 1>It's crazy. You know, my favorite TV show growing up

902
00:46:02.960 --> 00:46:07.599
<v Speaker 1>was The Twilight Zone, and it was every show did

903
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 1>have a happy ending. Sometimes they were good ending, sometimes

904
00:46:10.239 --> 00:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>they were happy ending, but a lot of times it

905
00:46:12.159 --> 00:46:13.800
<v Speaker 1>ended up in a dark way. And I love the

906
00:46:13.920 --> 00:46:18.159
<v Speaker 1>unpredictability of it all. Rod Serling was just a mastermind

907
00:46:18.199 --> 00:46:20.119
<v Speaker 1>and putting me. I mean this is I don't really

908
00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:23.159
<v Speaker 1>like old shit that much. But the Twilight Zone, Man,

909
00:46:23.920 --> 00:46:26.920
<v Speaker 1>some of those episodes still stand the test of time.

910
00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:30.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you think, What do you think the angle

911
00:46:30.239 --> 00:46:34.960
<v Speaker 1>was in terms of the perspective of a deep state,

912
00:46:35.000 --> 00:46:36.480
<v Speaker 1>illuminati and mind control.

913
00:46:36.559 --> 00:46:38.760
<v Speaker 3>With Twilight Zone, I can tell you. I can tell

914
00:46:38.760 --> 00:46:41.440
<v Speaker 3>you for sure. By the way, real quick, I just remembered,

915
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:44.639
<v Speaker 3>do you remember the James Bond movies in the nineteen

916
00:46:44.679 --> 00:46:47.119
<v Speaker 3>eighties when it was Timothy Dalton who was James Bond?

917
00:46:47.119 --> 00:46:47.559
<v Speaker 3>Do you remember that?

918
00:46:47.880 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even want like I was. I couldn't fuck

919
00:46:49.719 --> 00:46:52.159
<v Speaker 1>with James won, only because it's like the Twilight Zone is.

920
00:46:52.239 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I didn't fuck with comic book heroes. I don't give

921
00:46:54.440 --> 00:46:58.519
<v Speaker 1>a shit about Superman Batman because they always won. I

922
00:46:58.599 --> 00:47:00.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't like the fact that you knew that no matter

923
00:47:00.480 --> 00:47:02.800
<v Speaker 1>what battle they were in, they were gonna win, and

924
00:47:02.960 --> 00:47:04.760
<v Speaker 1>the good guy always won. That's why I like the

925
00:47:04.800 --> 00:47:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Twilet Zone because you never knew what the fuck was

926
00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:07.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen.

927
00:47:07.280 --> 00:47:10.960
<v Speaker 3>You know, Yeah, yeah, But I'm saying you should watch

928
00:47:11.440 --> 00:47:15.599
<v Speaker 3>the nineteen eighty seven Bond movie Living Daylights, because that

929
00:47:15.719 --> 00:47:21.119
<v Speaker 3>whole movie, just like Rambo two or Rambo two, has

930
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:26.199
<v Speaker 3>Bond aligning himself with al Qaeda, and the dude that

931
00:47:26.280 --> 00:47:30.199
<v Speaker 3>he makes an alliance with is almost copy paste, is

932
00:47:30.400 --> 00:47:33.760
<v Speaker 3>just like Bin Laden. Yeah yeah, it's eerily just like

933
00:47:34.000 --> 00:47:37.199
<v Speaker 3>and on record. And I might be I might I

934
00:47:37.320 --> 00:47:39.840
<v Speaker 3>might be mixing out. I'm pretty sure that the dedication,

935
00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:44.320
<v Speaker 3>the dedication to the freedom Fighters of Al Qaedromjadin, it's

936
00:47:44.400 --> 00:47:46.519
<v Speaker 3>either Living Daylights or Rambo two.

937
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:47.480
<v Speaker 2>I think it's Rainbow two.

938
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:50.760
<v Speaker 3>But Living Daylights is another one where you can see

939
00:47:50.760 --> 00:47:53.519
<v Speaker 3>the propaganda. It's like, oh, Ben Luden's, you know, a hero,

940
00:47:53.679 --> 00:47:55.679
<v Speaker 3>he's a good guy. On the.

941
00:47:57.519 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 2>The topic of.

942
00:48:00.000 --> 00:48:02.880
<v Speaker 3>Twilight Zone, I remember some years ago when I was

943
00:48:02.920 --> 00:48:04.760
<v Speaker 3>writing the first book, and I think I just mentioned

944
00:48:04.840 --> 00:48:09.480
<v Speaker 3>this in passing. I remember watching the episodes and I

945
00:48:09.559 --> 00:48:11.559
<v Speaker 3>was paying a lot of attention to the details, especially

946
00:48:11.559 --> 00:48:12.079
<v Speaker 3>in season one.

947
00:48:12.119 --> 00:48:14.280
<v Speaker 2>It's while I zoned within.

948
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.639
<v Speaker 3>So the first episode is that soldier who wakes up

949
00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:21.679
<v Speaker 3>in a float tank and he's part of MK Ultra obviously,

950
00:48:21.920 --> 00:48:26.079
<v Speaker 3>because he's being he's undergoing mind control experimentation, and it's

951
00:48:26.079 --> 00:48:27.840
<v Speaker 3>one of the most famous twilights an episode just.

952
00:48:27.840 --> 00:48:30.079
<v Speaker 2>Where the guy wakes up the guy just wait.

953
00:48:30.320 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 3>It starts with him in a telephone booth and he's

954
00:48:33.239 --> 00:48:35.320
<v Speaker 3>trying to go back to his hometown after he's been

955
00:48:35.760 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 3>deployed somewhere else in the military. And when he gets

956
00:48:38.679 --> 00:48:41.400
<v Speaker 3>back to his hometown there's nobody there, and so the

957
00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:43.599
<v Speaker 3>whole film is him trying to like wander through an

958
00:48:43.599 --> 00:48:46.960
<v Speaker 3>empty hometown and figure out what's going on spoiler alert.

959
00:48:47.239 --> 00:48:49.840
<v Speaker 3>And he wakes up inside a military installation, in an

960
00:48:49.880 --> 00:48:52.920
<v Speaker 3>underground base and a float tank and so he's been

961
00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.079
<v Speaker 3>experimented on. So that's mk Ultra right when m Kultra

962
00:48:56.239 --> 00:48:58.599
<v Speaker 3>was happening. So they're actually writing these kinds of plots

963
00:48:58.840 --> 00:49:01.920
<v Speaker 3>even in the nineteen fifties and sixties about that kind

964
00:49:01.920 --> 00:49:04.559
<v Speaker 3>of stuff. And then a few episodes later there's an

965
00:49:04.840 --> 00:49:09.599
<v Speaker 3>there's a one where a pilot, I think the Air

966
00:49:09.639 --> 00:49:12.480
<v Speaker 3>Force pilot, he disappears and then he like reappears and

967
00:49:12.559 --> 00:49:13.559
<v Speaker 3>he doesn't know what's happened.

968
00:49:13.880 --> 00:49:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I seen that one, and then he reappears and

969
00:49:17.039 --> 00:49:19.519
<v Speaker 1>it's like twenty years later, yeah, and he's got this

970
00:49:20.239 --> 00:49:22.840
<v Speaker 1>at the air Force airport and they find him in

971
00:49:22.880 --> 00:49:25.920
<v Speaker 1>there and he's in his like old ass plane and

972
00:49:26.039 --> 00:49:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it was like from World War One, and he's trying

973
00:49:28.880 --> 00:49:31.039
<v Speaker 1>to convince everybody he was from the past when no

974
00:49:31.119 --> 00:49:36.920
<v Speaker 1>one believed him. And then he uh, he talks about

975
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.039
<v Speaker 1>how he was flying before he disappeared. He was flying

976
00:49:40.079 --> 00:49:45.679
<v Speaker 1>with his you know, yep teammate or whatever you would

977
00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:51.519
<v Speaker 1>call his soldier mate, and he was scared because the

978
00:49:51.599 --> 00:49:54.679
<v Speaker 1>guy his teammate was was a beast and he was

979
00:49:54.760 --> 00:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>like firing at all these Nazis and then he bailed.

980
00:49:57.280 --> 00:49:59.039
<v Speaker 1>He's like, I'm out of here. So he takes off

981
00:49:59.400 --> 00:50:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and he goes to these clouds and he now he's

982
00:50:02.079 --> 00:50:05.199
<v Speaker 1>twenty years later, and he feels like deep down inside

983
00:50:05.239 --> 00:50:08.559
<v Speaker 1>that man he pussied out, and then it turns out

984
00:50:09.360 --> 00:50:13.800
<v Speaker 1>that he wasn't crazy, and he decided to get back

985
00:50:13.840 --> 00:50:15.400
<v Speaker 1>on his plane and try to go back and then

986
00:50:15.440 --> 00:50:18.679
<v Speaker 1>he ended up uh no, no, before before he did that,

987
00:50:19.079 --> 00:50:21.239
<v Speaker 1>they have him. He's it's twenty years in the future

988
00:50:21.679 --> 00:50:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and they're talking about this this uh, this famous war

989
00:50:26.320 --> 00:50:30.239
<v Speaker 1>veteran who's coming to that airport. Where he was at

990
00:50:30.800 --> 00:50:33.280
<v Speaker 1>and they mentioned his name. He goes, that's the guy

991
00:50:33.320 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 1>that was flying with He's still alive. He goes, yes,

992
00:50:35.199 --> 00:50:38.960
<v Speaker 1>he's like some famous colonel. Now and now you know,

993
00:50:39.000 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 1>it's twenty years later, he's like, oh shit, he's coming.

994
00:50:40.960 --> 00:50:42.400
<v Speaker 1>He goes, yeah, he's coming here, and now he's like,

995
00:50:42.440 --> 00:50:45.760
<v Speaker 1>oh damn. So they still thought he was crazy, but

996
00:50:45.960 --> 00:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>it was weird that he knew the guy, like he

997
00:50:48.599 --> 00:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>knows the guy. But but then it turns out he

998
00:50:51.480 --> 00:50:53.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to face him because he thought like, oh my,

999
00:50:53.960 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, he's gonna fucking think I'm a big

1000
00:50:55.639 --> 00:50:58.000
<v Speaker 1>pussy and he's probably gonna throw me in jail or whatever.

1001
00:50:58.000 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 1>He's gonna be so mad at me. So he decides, fuck,

1002
00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:02.960
<v Speaker 1>go get back on his plane. He fights his way

1003
00:51:03.000 --> 00:51:05.000
<v Speaker 1>back on the plane. He goes up in them, and

1004
00:51:05.119 --> 00:51:08.159
<v Speaker 1>then when that guy shows up, they asked him, did

1005
00:51:08.199 --> 00:51:10.400
<v Speaker 1>you know this one dude, this one crazy dude, saying

1006
00:51:10.440 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 1>he knows you from He says, you got your flank goes, yeah,

1007
00:51:12.599 --> 00:51:15.199
<v Speaker 1>the guy saved my life. I was dead. The Nazis

1008
00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:17.960
<v Speaker 1>had me surrounded and I don't know where he comes

1009
00:51:18.000 --> 00:51:19.719
<v Speaker 1>in and saves my life. So he did go back

1010
00:51:19.760 --> 00:51:21.920
<v Speaker 1>and he saved his life. So yeah, I remember which

1011
00:51:21.920 --> 00:51:23.079
<v Speaker 1>one of you talking about it? I love. Yeah.

1012
00:51:23.119 --> 00:51:25.320
<v Speaker 3>Well, so it's either that one and I'm going for

1013
00:51:25.360 --> 00:51:27.239
<v Speaker 3>memory because I'm gonna watch these in several years. But

1014
00:51:27.320 --> 00:51:30.559
<v Speaker 3>it's either that episode or the one where it's in

1015
00:51:30.639 --> 00:51:33.360
<v Speaker 3>season one where the there's like an invasion of the

1016
00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:37.199
<v Speaker 3>body snatchers in a small town or whatever before the

1017
00:51:37.519 --> 00:51:39.480
<v Speaker 3>it's either the beginning or at the end of the episode.

1018
00:51:39.480 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 3>In the credits, it says consulted on by the Department

1019
00:51:42.800 --> 00:51:46.039
<v Speaker 3>of Defense. So the Department of Defense was consulting on

1020
00:51:46.320 --> 00:51:49.599
<v Speaker 3>and helping to craft some of those stories for.

1021
00:51:51.159 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 2>For Twilight Zone. That was good people like me.

1022
00:51:54.440 --> 00:51:56.599
<v Speaker 1>I thought, when you hear something like that, oh yeah,

1023
00:51:56.639 --> 00:51:58.960
<v Speaker 1>they're doing They're going out of their way to make

1024
00:51:59.000 --> 00:52:03.000
<v Speaker 1>it authentic. We weren't thinking about, like, oh, they're making

1025
00:52:03.119 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 1>sure it's propaganda guys. I was always thinking, oh, that's great, Yeah,

1026
00:52:07.199 --> 00:52:09.320
<v Speaker 1>bring in the CIA to make it more realistic. We

1027
00:52:09.400 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 1>want to realistic, you know. So I wasn't ever thinking

1028
00:52:11.840 --> 00:52:12.760
<v Speaker 1>about the propagandall.

1029
00:52:12.800 --> 00:52:14.639
<v Speaker 2>That's partly true, but it's more than that as well.

1030
00:52:14.679 --> 00:52:19.360
<v Speaker 3>It's also there's also propaganda, right, so like and that's

1031
00:52:19.440 --> 00:52:21.280
<v Speaker 3>now admitted right, like, I think you're right. If you

1032
00:52:21.320 --> 00:52:24.119
<v Speaker 3>go back to the nineteen sixties seventies, at that time,

1033
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.119
<v Speaker 3>people would have thought, yeah, we're just trying to make

1034
00:52:26.159 --> 00:52:29.320
<v Speaker 3>it more authentic, and that's partly true. However, as we

1035
00:52:29.480 --> 00:52:31.719
<v Speaker 3>know post nine to eleven, there was also a lot

1036
00:52:31.760 --> 00:52:34.360
<v Speaker 3>of revising of the scripts, a lot of propaganda.

1037
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.039
<v Speaker 2>For example, go back to World War two.

1038
00:52:37.880 --> 00:52:40.400
<v Speaker 3>And I put this in my new book in the

1039
00:52:40.519 --> 00:52:42.519
<v Speaker 3>last chapter, or one of the last chapters of the

1040
00:52:42.599 --> 00:52:44.599
<v Speaker 3>third volume as sar Hollywood, the one I just wrote

1041
00:52:44.639 --> 00:52:48.960
<v Speaker 3>this last year. The last chapter is about World War

1042
00:52:49.039 --> 00:52:51.000
<v Speaker 3>two era when they were they had there was a

1043
00:52:51.039 --> 00:52:54.800
<v Speaker 3>British intelligence set up a ring of screenwriters, and there

1044
00:52:54.840 --> 00:52:56.519
<v Speaker 3>was a woman I always forget her name, but she

1045
00:52:56.679 --> 00:52:59.400
<v Speaker 3>wrote several movies in the nineteen forties and the only

1046
00:52:59.480 --> 00:53:03.039
<v Speaker 3>point of those movies was to ensure that the American

1047
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:08.119
<v Speaker 3>population was supporting World War two. So it was British

1048
00:53:08.119 --> 00:53:11.239
<v Speaker 3>intelligence putting people in Hollywood at that time to write

1049
00:53:11.280 --> 00:53:15.760
<v Speaker 3>screenplays to convince Americans to support the war effort in

1050
00:53:15.840 --> 00:53:17.920
<v Speaker 3>World War two. Now, whatever you think about that, the

1051
00:53:18.000 --> 00:53:20.119
<v Speaker 3>point is that that was going on all the way

1052
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:22.440
<v Speaker 3>back then. They didn't just think they just quit oh,

1053
00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 3>we're only going to do it for World War Two.

1054
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Now they were doing all throughout the Cold War. There's

1055
00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 3>so many movies, you know, throughout the fifties, sixties, seventies,

1056
00:53:30.280 --> 00:53:33.400
<v Speaker 3>and eighties, all the way up to Freaking.

1057
00:53:35.559 --> 00:53:36.280
<v Speaker 2>River Phoenix.

1058
00:53:37.400 --> 00:53:40.400
<v Speaker 3>He was in Rooskies or like, he was in a

1059
00:53:40.400 --> 00:53:43.280
<v Speaker 3>whole bunch of these little Nikiita I remember watching that

1060
00:53:43.360 --> 00:53:45.079
<v Speaker 3>when when I was a kid, All these you know,

1061
00:53:45.960 --> 00:53:50.039
<v Speaker 3>River Phoenix movies. Before he was killed, probably he was

1062
00:53:50.119 --> 00:53:52.400
<v Speaker 3>in a bunch of these propaganda you know, Russian movies

1063
00:53:52.400 --> 00:53:54.400
<v Speaker 3>that were coming out in the nineteen eighties. Remember Charlie,

1064
00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:55.519
<v Speaker 3>was he speaking out?

1065
00:53:55.559 --> 00:53:57.679
<v Speaker 1>You think he got killed because he was speaking out.

1066
00:53:57.760 --> 00:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>He was like turning against Hollywood.

1067
00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:04.519
<v Speaker 3>Well, my suspicion is that it would relate to being

1068
00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:07.920
<v Speaker 3>raised in the Children of God cult, which had a

1069
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:12.679
<v Speaker 3>famous PDF scandal. So the Children of God cult, by

1070
00:54:12.679 --> 00:54:17.599
<v Speaker 3>the way, Rose mcgawan was raised in that the River Phoenix, Leaf.

1071
00:54:17.519 --> 00:54:19.119
<v Speaker 1>Phoenix, Joaquin Phoenix.

1072
00:54:19.599 --> 00:54:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Joaquin used to be called called Leaf if you go

1073
00:54:21.880 --> 00:54:23.840
<v Speaker 3>to old old movies in the nineteen eighties, He's called

1074
00:54:23.920 --> 00:54:26.320
<v Speaker 3>Leaf Phoenix, and then for whatever reason he changed the

1075
00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:27.000
<v Speaker 3>name to Joaquin.

1076
00:54:27.079 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 2>He was They were raised in that cult.

1077
00:54:29.440 --> 00:54:33.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know about them specifically being messed with, but

1078
00:54:33.719 --> 00:54:37.679
<v Speaker 3>the leader of that cult, Moses Burg, was famously a

1079
00:54:38.320 --> 00:54:42.079
<v Speaker 3>massive PDF and so that cult seemed to be pretty

1080
00:54:42.079 --> 00:54:46.440
<v Speaker 3>well connected. And my suspicion is that whatever led to

1081
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:48.880
<v Speaker 3>the demise of River Phoenix probably related to that.

1082
00:54:51.960 --> 00:54:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Now, there was a new Twilight Zone that came out,

1083
00:54:57.519 --> 00:54:59.840
<v Speaker 1>like in the mid eighties or something.

1084
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:02.599
<v Speaker 4>I started watching a couple of those. Color was really good,

1085
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 4>and that was one about It started with this lady.

1086
00:55:08.239 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>She's on trial and she's like crying, she's like begging

1087
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:17.719
<v Speaker 1>for mercy, and then the judge and the jury like

1088
00:55:17.840 --> 00:55:21.199
<v Speaker 1>you're fucking gone. I think a trial for murder because

1089
00:55:21.239 --> 00:55:23.800
<v Speaker 1>you're going to jail forever. And then all of a sudden,

1090
00:55:23.800 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 1>she goes, yeah, I'll be back. I'll get her ofvenge.

1091
00:55:26.119 --> 00:55:28.960
<v Speaker 1>She's like, damn, she went from being a woman, a

1092
00:55:29.039 --> 00:55:31.400
<v Speaker 1>sad woman begging for mercy, and then he saw a

1093
00:55:31.440 --> 00:55:34.119
<v Speaker 1>little evil side to her. And then they handcoff her

1094
00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:36.519
<v Speaker 1>and then they take her to prison. And when she's

1095
00:55:36.599 --> 00:55:40.159
<v Speaker 1>on this bus going to the prison, it's like out

1096
00:55:40.199 --> 00:55:43.679
<v Speaker 1>in the boonies. She sees she's she's all handcuffed and

1097
00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:47.199
<v Speaker 1>everything all all in chains, and she sees this black man,

1098
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:50.639
<v Speaker 1>old black man. He's the grave digger for people that

1099
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.920
<v Speaker 1>die in prison. He's the one that goes out and

1100
00:55:53.000 --> 00:55:55.360
<v Speaker 1>buries them. So she looks at him. They show a

1101
00:55:55.400 --> 00:55:57.960
<v Speaker 1>little scene she's looking at him. She goes into the prison.

1102
00:55:58.280 --> 00:56:01.400
<v Speaker 1>She works her way up cleaning and getting jobs in

1103
00:56:01.480 --> 00:56:04.119
<v Speaker 1>the prison, and then she finally works her way to

1104
00:56:04.800 --> 00:56:08.960
<v Speaker 1>working with the grave digger black guy, and he's like

1105
00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:12.360
<v Speaker 1>going blind and he's waiting for this approval for his

1106
00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.639
<v Speaker 1>eye surgery, and she befriends him, and then he trusts her,

1107
00:56:17.760 --> 00:56:20.320
<v Speaker 1>and she's just trying to manipulate him. She got this

1108
00:56:20.599 --> 00:56:25.800
<v Speaker 1>grand plan of escape and she's gonna use him. So he's, uh,

1109
00:56:25.920 --> 00:56:28.880
<v Speaker 1>he gets this letter and it's it's it's you know,

1110
00:56:29.039 --> 00:56:31.119
<v Speaker 1>gonna He's either he's either gonna find out that his

1111
00:56:31.320 --> 00:56:36.480
<v Speaker 1>eye surgery got approved or rejected. So she and he

1112
00:56:36.559 --> 00:56:39.039
<v Speaker 1>can't find it. She hides his glasses so he can't.

1113
00:56:39.039 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 1>He's looking for his glass. He goes, no, I'll just

1114
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:41.400
<v Speaker 1>read it for you here and give it to me.

1115
00:56:41.440 --> 00:56:43.639
<v Speaker 1>I'll just read it for and she reads it to

1116
00:56:43.719 --> 00:56:46.360
<v Speaker 1>him and they approved his eye surgery, but she said

1117
00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:50.239
<v Speaker 1>they didn't, and he's fucking sad. You know. He starts crying,

1118
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.239
<v Speaker 1>and she said, listen, I'll I'll fix your eyes. I

1119
00:56:53.280 --> 00:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of money. I got a ton of money.

1120
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm wealthy. He goes really, goes, yeah, I'm gonna I'm

1121
00:56:58.119 --> 00:57:00.559
<v Speaker 1>gonna pay for surgery. He just got to help. He

1122
00:57:00.599 --> 00:57:02.519
<v Speaker 1>goes how and goes, you got how many get out

1123
00:57:02.519 --> 00:57:04.119
<v Speaker 1>of here. And he goes like, how the fuck are

1124
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.119
<v Speaker 1>you gonna do that? So she says, the next time

1125
00:57:07.239 --> 00:57:10.840
<v Speaker 1>somebody dies, give me the keys to get into the

1126
00:57:11.840 --> 00:57:14.079
<v Speaker 1>coffin room or whatever. So he gives her the keys.

1127
00:57:14.079 --> 00:57:16.000
<v Speaker 1>She goes, the next time someone dies, they they ring

1128
00:57:16.079 --> 00:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>a bell. Like for whom the bell tolls, they ring

1129
00:57:18.480 --> 00:57:21.920
<v Speaker 1>a bell. And she made the plan was the next

1130
00:57:21.960 --> 00:57:24.519
<v Speaker 1>time she hears that bell, whether it's in five days

1131
00:57:24.639 --> 00:57:28.760
<v Speaker 1>or two months, that's her cue to go into the

1132
00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.280
<v Speaker 1>casket room, get in the casket with the dead person.

1133
00:57:32.719 --> 00:57:35.519
<v Speaker 1>He's going to go out the next morning and bury them,

1134
00:57:36.320 --> 00:57:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and then come out and unbury her and then set

1135
00:57:39.360 --> 00:57:43.119
<v Speaker 1>her free. That was the plan. So, man, I don't

1136
00:57:43.119 --> 00:57:45.199
<v Speaker 1>know how much time goes by, but the bell goes off.

1137
00:57:46.239 --> 00:57:48.880
<v Speaker 1>She it's, you know, the dead of night. She goes

1138
00:57:48.880 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 1>to the press she's got the keys, and she sneaks

1139
00:57:50.960 --> 00:57:53.440
<v Speaker 1>her way into the where the room where they keep

1140
00:57:53.480 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>the coffin that they're about to bury. So she sneaks

1141
00:57:56.519 --> 00:57:58.440
<v Speaker 1>into the in the coffin, she lays next to the

1142
00:57:58.519 --> 00:58:01.599
<v Speaker 1>dead person. They can take her and bury her. So

1143
00:58:01.719 --> 00:58:05.159
<v Speaker 1>now she's buried out on the in front of the

1144
00:58:05.679 --> 00:58:07.960
<v Speaker 1>or on the side of the prison. I'm away from

1145
00:58:08.000 --> 00:58:10.800
<v Speaker 1>the prison. So she's just waiting there for him to

1146
00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:13.440
<v Speaker 1>come back later and dig her up and let her

1147
00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.559
<v Speaker 1>set her free. And she's waiting and she's waiting, and

1148
00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.360
<v Speaker 1>she's talking to herself. She's waiting and praying, and he's

1149
00:58:19.400 --> 00:58:22.400
<v Speaker 1>taken forever and it's taking so goddamn long. So she

1150
00:58:22.440 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 1>starts going crazy. She could barely breathe. She's like, fuck her,

1151
00:58:25.039 --> 00:58:28.480
<v Speaker 1>where the fuck are you, motherfucker? Where the fuck are you?

1152
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:30.639
<v Speaker 1>So then she lights a match and she wants to

1153
00:58:30.679 --> 00:58:33.519
<v Speaker 1>see the dead person next to her. Uh, and guess

1154
00:58:33.559 --> 00:58:41.360
<v Speaker 1>who it is? The grave digger. She goes ah, and

1155
00:58:41.440 --> 00:58:45.039
<v Speaker 1>then the credits start rolling and it's over. So I'll

1156
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>never forget that one. That's one episode that just stuck

1157
00:58:47.440 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 1>with me. I saw that when I was like fifteen.

1158
00:58:50.159 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, man, I'll never forget that episode.

1159
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:54.079
<v Speaker 3>And I remember watching when I was a kid in

1160
00:58:54.119 --> 00:58:56.360
<v Speaker 3>the eighties, I watched the episode of G I Joe

1161
00:58:56.519 --> 00:58:58.719
<v Speaker 3>that even freaking me out. It was an episode where

1162
00:58:58.880 --> 00:59:02.119
<v Speaker 3>they're creating like synthoid replacements of all the people in

1163
00:59:02.199 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 3>the Pentagon and the generals.

1164
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:05.039
<v Speaker 2>That episode freaked me out as.

1165
00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:08.599
<v Speaker 3>A kid, And then when I got older, I went

1166
00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:11.960
<v Speaker 3>and researched like the history of G Joe. The huh

1167
00:59:12.119 --> 00:59:15.360
<v Speaker 3>is it basically about cloning kind of except they're like

1168
00:59:15.840 --> 00:59:22.360
<v Speaker 3>they're like robotic, like nanotech replacements that are mind control, right.

1169
00:59:22.559 --> 00:59:24.199
<v Speaker 2>I remember that episode scared me a lot when I

1170
00:59:24.280 --> 00:59:24.559
<v Speaker 2>was a kid.

1171
00:59:24.599 --> 00:59:27.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why, but maybe I had a premonition

1172
00:59:27.559 --> 00:59:29.800
<v Speaker 3>that they might actually be doing that one day. But

1173
00:59:31.559 --> 00:59:35.840
<v Speaker 3>I remember a few years ago researching this. I forget

1174
00:59:35.880 --> 00:59:37.719
<v Speaker 3>the guy's name, Friedman or something like that, but he

1175
00:59:37.920 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 3>was another Pentagon military expert who was a huge consultant

1176
00:59:43.960 --> 00:59:47.840
<v Speaker 3>on Transformers and GI Joe. And if you go back,

1177
00:59:47.920 --> 00:59:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's kind of silly to I don't really

1178
00:59:49.320 --> 00:59:50.920
<v Speaker 3>want to watch a bunch of cartoons now that I'm

1179
00:59:50.920 --> 00:59:52.880
<v Speaker 3>an adult, But I did go back and watch the

1180
00:59:52.960 --> 00:59:55.880
<v Speaker 3>first season of GI Joe and Dude there's episodes about

1181
00:59:55.960 --> 00:59:59.519
<v Speaker 3>mk Ultra, there's episodes about Harp, there's episodes about nanotech,

1182
01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:03.079
<v Speaker 3>the episodes about all this shit that like the Federal Reserve.

1183
01:00:03.159 --> 01:00:08.039
<v Speaker 3>There's a whole episode where Cobra says the Federal Reserve

1184
01:00:08.239 --> 01:00:11.559
<v Speaker 3>is making fake money. So they have the villain as

1185
01:00:11.679 --> 01:00:14.880
<v Speaker 3>the one saying what's true. Isn't that crazy?

1186
01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Yes, So in situations like that where they're telling you,

1187
01:00:21.800 --> 01:00:25.639
<v Speaker 1>you know, like they're telling you what they're doing and

1188
01:00:25.719 --> 01:00:28.639
<v Speaker 1>what's going on, mk Ultra, Keim Trail's all that shit.

1189
01:00:29.239 --> 01:00:34.199
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe the plan is if we put it

1190
01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.760
<v Speaker 1>in movies, they won't believe it's real. They'll say, dude,

1191
01:00:37.800 --> 01:00:40.480
<v Speaker 1>you watch too many movies. So when they put shit

1192
01:00:40.559 --> 01:00:44.679
<v Speaker 1>in movies, it's not maybe it's too you know, get

1193
01:00:44.719 --> 01:00:47.000
<v Speaker 1>them used to it or something, but it's also to

1194
01:00:47.119 --> 01:00:49.599
<v Speaker 1>make it like so you don't believe it.

1195
01:00:50.440 --> 01:00:52.039
<v Speaker 3>I think that's what you're right. We missed the kind

1196
01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:54.079
<v Speaker 3>of the obvious thing, which I should have said earlier,

1197
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Like the reason that this exists in movies. Number Layer

1198
01:00:58.000 --> 01:01:00.920
<v Speaker 3>one is so that most people say, oh, dude, you

1199
01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:02.079
<v Speaker 3>saw that in the fucking movie.

1200
01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Dude, you're an idiot.

1201
01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:03.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1202
01:01:03.519 --> 01:01:07.719
<v Speaker 3>Layer two is the catatonic trauma stuff. Layer three is

1203
01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:09.880
<v Speaker 3>the occult stuff. So yeah, I think you're absolutely right.

1204
01:01:09.920 --> 01:01:10.760
<v Speaker 3>There's layers to this shit.

1205
01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:12.880
<v Speaker 1>The crazy thing though, is when I used to believe

1206
01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.639
<v Speaker 1>in UFOs, it used to be that, like you know,

1207
01:01:15.760 --> 01:01:20.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty five thirty years ago, uh, to be a conspiracy

1208
01:01:20.079 --> 01:01:23.760
<v Speaker 1>theorist meant you were all into UFOs and the government

1209
01:01:24.000 --> 01:01:27.480
<v Speaker 1>is is covering up UFOs and hiding UFOs from.

1210
01:01:27.360 --> 01:01:30.039
<v Speaker 2>It the government. Once you believe in you no, totally, totally.

1211
01:01:30.280 --> 01:01:31.679
<v Speaker 1>It took me a while to figure that shit out.

1212
01:01:31.920 --> 01:01:34.199
<v Speaker 1>But in the beginning, I think that's the first phase.

1213
01:01:34.280 --> 01:01:37.119
<v Speaker 1>The first phase, like, oh my god, the gut it's

1214
01:01:37.239 --> 01:01:39.480
<v Speaker 1>hiding UFOs from it. But that's what they want us

1215
01:01:39.480 --> 01:01:41.400
<v Speaker 1>to believe. So when they were but then then I

1216
01:01:41.440 --> 01:01:43.639
<v Speaker 1>would then that's when I would think, like, man, but

1217
01:01:43.719 --> 01:01:47.679
<v Speaker 1>why is there so many god damn alien and space movies?

1218
01:01:49.280 --> 01:01:51.880
<v Speaker 1>So then I thought, oh, so that they put it

1219
01:01:51.960 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 1>in movie because I was still believing it, and I go,

1220
01:01:54.519 --> 01:01:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I would say, they're putting it in movies to make

1221
01:01:57.400 --> 01:02:01.280
<v Speaker 1>it look ridiculous. That's what I thought. But it's the opposite.

1222
01:02:01.440 --> 01:02:04.679
<v Speaker 1>They want you to believe in UFOs. Anything with space.

1223
01:02:04.880 --> 01:02:08.280
<v Speaker 1>They green light anything with Fulk in space, Go Go Go.

1224
01:02:08.440 --> 01:02:10.920
<v Speaker 1>They don't ever hold it could be the dumbest movie

1225
01:02:10.960 --> 01:02:14.519
<v Speaker 1>of Battlestar Galactica, the dumb shit. They don't give a fuck.

1226
01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:19.159
<v Speaker 1>They just a flash Gordon. If it's if there's Mars attacks,

1227
01:02:19.920 --> 01:02:22.920
<v Speaker 1>if there's space in it, as long as they show

1228
01:02:23.000 --> 01:02:25.719
<v Speaker 1>like you're in space and there's a planet in the background,

1229
01:02:26.039 --> 01:02:27.840
<v Speaker 1>they just go with it. They're like, yeah, I didn't

1230
01:02:27.840 --> 01:02:29.000
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck what it's about.

1231
01:02:29.639 --> 01:02:32.960
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. In fact, I put in my first book.

1232
01:02:33.000 --> 01:02:35.639
<v Speaker 3>There's a book written by a guy who's a professor

1233
01:02:35.719 --> 01:02:39.360
<v Speaker 3>who was one of these high level social engineers, had

1234
01:02:39.440 --> 01:02:44.000
<v Speaker 3>Lee Cantrell, and he was involved in studying the UFO

1235
01:02:44.119 --> 01:02:47.480
<v Speaker 3>phenomenon for its social engineering effects. And he was one

1236
01:02:47.519 --> 01:02:49.599
<v Speaker 3>of the guys from the Princeton Research Project who was

1237
01:02:49.679 --> 01:02:53.840
<v Speaker 3>involved in the Orson Wells radio broadcast, which scared everybody

1238
01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:57.239
<v Speaker 3>when he broadcasts wore the worlds as a radio story.

1239
01:02:57.440 --> 01:02:59.559
<v Speaker 3>They thought it was real, they thought aliens were really invading.

1240
01:03:00.199 --> 01:03:04.079
<v Speaker 3>And so people like heavily control studied this to understand

1241
01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:07.000
<v Speaker 3>psychological warfare on the masses. And he wrote a book

1242
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:11.400
<v Speaker 3>called Invaders from Mars, and it's about using the UFO

1243
01:03:11.559 --> 01:03:15.760
<v Speaker 3>narrative to steer people at a cultural level into new

1244
01:03:15.880 --> 01:03:18.960
<v Speaker 3>narratives that would replace the idea of creation, replace the

1245
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:22.119
<v Speaker 3>idea of the Bible. And my second book, I put

1246
01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:26.960
<v Speaker 3>a thing from Brookings Institute, which is one of the

1247
01:03:27.039 --> 01:03:30.360
<v Speaker 3>top think tanks. The NASA commission Brookings Institute in nineteen

1248
01:03:30.400 --> 01:03:34.159
<v Speaker 3>sixty eight to do a study on what would happen

1249
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:38.920
<v Speaker 3>to people who believe the Biblical paradigm of creation if

1250
01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:42.800
<v Speaker 3>the Establishment announced alien life. And the assessment from the

1251
01:03:42.920 --> 01:03:45.920
<v Speaker 3>social engineers in this white paper was that it would

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01:03:45.960 --> 01:03:48.760
<v Speaker 3>shake everybody's belief in creation and they would start to

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<v Speaker 3>believe a new controlled alien narrative that would fit with

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<v Speaker 3>AONs of evolution and the Big Bang and transhumanism. So

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<v Speaker 3>they literally say that it was intended to uproot Christian

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<v Speaker 3>ideas and replace it with this new age alien bullshit.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely. I mean from the dawn of time, every emperor,

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<v Speaker 1>every king, they all had the same dream, a one

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<v Speaker 1>world empire, one world government. It's always been that way.

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<v Speaker 1>Every king and every emperor. They wanted to rule everything.

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01:04:22.599 --> 01:04:26.039
<v Speaker 1>They just it. They wanted to, but they couldn't. And

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01:04:26.119 --> 01:04:29.760
<v Speaker 1>they all knew the one way because nobody wants, no

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<v Speaker 1>small countries want one world government. I go with a

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<v Speaker 1>small country like one world government, that's going to put

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<v Speaker 1>me out of a job. Yeah, Like, the only way

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<v Speaker 1>for a one world government to work. Nobody likes one

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01:04:40.719 --> 01:04:43.599
<v Speaker 1>world government. Who fucking wants that shit? One one king

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01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:47.119
<v Speaker 1>and whatever he says goes. Most people ain't gonna buy that.

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<v Speaker 1>The only way to make it happen is to get

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01:04:50.679 --> 01:04:53.400
<v Speaker 1>everyone to embrace it. They have to want it, they

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<v Speaker 1>have to beg for it, And the only way you

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<v Speaker 1>beg for it is with a fake alien invasion. That's

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01:04:58.800 --> 01:05:01.840
<v Speaker 1>the only way of a Alliens came down. Everyone's going

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<v Speaker 1>to embrace the new world order, so they always wanted it.

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01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:08.519
<v Speaker 1>You can't have a fake alien invasion without space to

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01:05:08.800 --> 01:05:11.039
<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, that's why they keep pushing all these

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01:05:11.480 --> 01:05:15.960
<v Speaker 1>movies and NASA and Aliens and you will thinks that,

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01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:18.639
<v Speaker 1>because how are you gonna eventually try to pull off

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01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 1>the fake alien invasion if people don't even believe in

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01:05:22.159 --> 01:05:25.039
<v Speaker 1>the space that you're telling them, you know? So, I

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01:05:25.119 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 1>think that's what it's all about, just prepping us for

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01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 1>the that's that's their last their last gasp is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a fake alien invasion.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I think they may have the technology now to fool

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01:05:40.000 --> 01:05:43.880
<v Speaker 1>enough people, they might like with hologram technology, all you

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01:05:43.920 --> 01:05:46.480
<v Speaker 1>need is like can you put I mean the holograms

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01:05:46.519 --> 01:05:47.920
<v Speaker 1>they got. Now you got a football game of the

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01:05:48.000 --> 01:05:51.639
<v Speaker 1>rape Baltimore Ravens. They got the fucking crow flying around shit,

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01:05:52.000 --> 01:05:56.039
<v Speaker 1>and it looks real. So can they. But I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think they're confident enough in it, because if they were,

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<v Speaker 1>they would have already done it. They would have done it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're like, na dude, because once they

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01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:05.480
<v Speaker 1>do it, they can't do it again. It's just like

1295
01:06:05.599 --> 01:06:07.719
<v Speaker 1>COVID can't do COVID again. You did it once, it

1296
01:06:07.800 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 1>ain't never going to happen again. No off with that

1297
01:06:09.719 --> 01:06:12.079
<v Speaker 1>shit again. You did it once. That's it. That was

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01:06:12.119 --> 01:06:14.360
<v Speaker 1>your only COVID. There ain't going to be no more COVID.

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<v Speaker 3>So I think they I think you're right, Like, if

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01:06:16.760 --> 01:06:19.880
<v Speaker 3>they're going to roll out something that big it's got,

1301
01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:25.039
<v Speaker 3>they want to make sure that they've assessed the populations.

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01:06:25.760 --> 01:06:27.360
<v Speaker 2>Belief in in that right.

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01:06:27.480 --> 01:06:30.239
<v Speaker 3>So, like I think a lot of this fake disclosure

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01:06:30.280 --> 01:06:32.639
<v Speaker 3>stuff that's coming out where the Pentagon saying oh yeah,

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01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 3>we by the way, there are aliens and all this

1306
01:06:34.559 --> 01:06:38.280
<v Speaker 3>and that when they put that shit out there seeing, Okay,

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01:06:38.320 --> 01:06:41.199
<v Speaker 3>what's the reaction? Are people buying it? We have a

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01:06:41.280 --> 01:06:44.800
<v Speaker 3>crisis of like, people don't actually believe establishment anymore because

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01:06:44.840 --> 01:06:46.119
<v Speaker 3>they lie so much, So how are we going to

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01:06:46.119 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 3>get everybody to believe this? So I think they've lied

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01:06:49.159 --> 01:06:52.639
<v Speaker 3>too much. So there's a crisis of confidence in the establishment.

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01:06:52.760 --> 01:06:55.800
<v Speaker 3>So it's difficult to convince people of this stuff when

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01:06:55.840 --> 01:06:58.400
<v Speaker 3>the official outlets are just known as constant liars. So

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<v Speaker 3>I think, look like, you know, the last two years,

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01:07:02.400 --> 01:07:06.519
<v Speaker 3>with all these hearings and so called whistleblowers, like, it

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01:07:06.599 --> 01:07:10.000
<v Speaker 3>doesn't look like people are that they're not wowed by it, right,

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01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:12.280
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's not having a huge effect. So I

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01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:17.039
<v Speaker 3>don't even know if there's enough support of the idea

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01:07:17.239 --> 01:07:20.440
<v Speaker 3>of belief in aliens, in UFOs or even interest to

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01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:23.079
<v Speaker 3>do that kind of a big sy oup.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to have to do something like hologram of

1322
01:07:26.400 --> 01:07:29.159
<v Speaker 1>some big ass alien ship and then at the blow

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01:07:29.199 --> 01:07:30.159
<v Speaker 1>of the White House with.

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01:07:30.239 --> 01:07:33.480
<v Speaker 2>It like a laser, you would have to be like massive, yeah,

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01:07:34.000 --> 01:07:34.599
<v Speaker 2>And then at that.

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01:07:34.719 --> 01:07:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Point, you know you're going to be if you don't

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01:07:37.039 --> 01:07:41.159
<v Speaker 1>believe in it, you could be arrested that you're anti American.

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01:07:40.880 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 2>Or something you're or like like. So remember in a

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01:07:43.440 --> 01:07:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I noticed I read through cyber Polygon.

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01:07:46.360 --> 01:07:50.199
<v Speaker 3>Remember Claus talked about that one day we'll have cyber Polygon,

1331
01:07:50.239 --> 01:07:52.599
<v Speaker 3>which will be ten times worse than COVID. He said

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<v Speaker 3>it was the Internet, you know, apocalypse. And if you

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01:07:56.599 --> 01:08:00.840
<v Speaker 3>read that, yeah, this was one during COVID. He said,

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01:08:00.960 --> 01:08:04.360
<v Speaker 3>you think COVID is bad, wait until we have cyber Polygon,

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01:08:04.480 --> 01:08:08.679
<v Speaker 3>which is the collapse of the Internet. And uh, you

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01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:11.400
<v Speaker 3>can watch all the slides of the presentation. I went

1337
01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:13.280
<v Speaker 3>and watched it and did a bunch of podcasts on.

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01:08:13.320 --> 01:08:18.840
<v Speaker 1>It and explain that the internet sounds.

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01:08:19.960 --> 01:08:22.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So they basically ran a bunch of exercises and

1340
01:08:22.640 --> 01:08:26.760
<v Speaker 3>they war gamed what happens when terrorists take down the Internet.

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01:08:27.079 --> 01:08:30.960
<v Speaker 3>That's cyber polygon. And they ran this exercises with like

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01:08:31.079 --> 01:08:34.319
<v Speaker 3>IBM and the Pentagon and the War Economic Forum and

1343
01:08:34.359 --> 01:08:40.279
<v Speaker 3>all this, all these entities, and the most enlightening aspect

1344
01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:42.520
<v Speaker 3>of the exercises what's towards the end of it where

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01:08:42.560 --> 01:08:48.199
<v Speaker 3>they discuss that anybody who questions the narrative, they call

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01:08:48.279 --> 01:08:49.399
<v Speaker 3>them info terrorists.

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01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Information terrorists.

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01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's what they want to be info denier.

1349
01:08:55.159 --> 01:08:56.800
<v Speaker 2>But not just denier terrorists.

1350
01:08:57.199 --> 01:08:59.239
<v Speaker 3>So they want to take they want to take terrorism

1351
01:08:59.319 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 3>from the cold, from the war on terror, and now

1352
01:09:02.079 --> 01:09:05.399
<v Speaker 3>it's info terror. If you say things against the narrative,

1353
01:09:05.479 --> 01:09:08.119
<v Speaker 3>it's because you're supporting online terror.

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01:09:08.800 --> 01:09:11.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's smart. I like that. I was in

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01:09:11.640 --> 01:09:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a luminati. I've been like, yeah, I give me a

1356
01:09:13.600 --> 01:09:19.000
<v Speaker 1>game that work. Yeah yeah, lidlene dude, hell yeah, fucking

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01:09:19.399 --> 01:09:20.399
<v Speaker 1>info terrorist.

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01:09:21.119 --> 01:09:22.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, it's a fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>Now. Now, in regards the Eyes Wide shut, do you

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01:09:29.439 --> 01:09:34.279
<v Speaker 1>think Kubrick was trying to bust the elite out or

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01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:36.880
<v Speaker 1>what angle do you think was? What was the purpose

1362
01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:38.960
<v Speaker 1>of that? Like, and then he got killed right because

1363
01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:43.079
<v Speaker 1>they took twenty minutes out of his cut. They said,

1364
01:09:43.119 --> 01:09:46.840
<v Speaker 1>you can't show these twenty minutes, it's too deep. And

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01:09:47.000 --> 01:09:49.760
<v Speaker 1>then he died. Like take me through what you know

1366
01:09:49.840 --> 01:09:50.159
<v Speaker 1>about that?

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't have any set theory on this because

1368
01:09:53.279 --> 01:09:56.079
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, and I don't I mean, I haven't

1369
01:09:56.119 --> 01:09:58.319
<v Speaker 3>seen what was caught. I don't know if anybody has.

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01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:01.800
<v Speaker 3>Roger Avery was just on with Joe Rogan, you know,

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01:10:01.800 --> 01:10:05.239
<v Speaker 3>a few months ago, and he theorized that it is

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01:10:05.399 --> 01:10:08.680
<v Speaker 3>relevant and it could have led to the demise of Kubrick. Early.

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<v Speaker 3>I asked Vivian about this, and she said she's not

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01:10:12.399 --> 01:10:17.239
<v Speaker 3>aware of any plot or anything like that, but she's

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01:10:17.319 --> 01:10:19.279
<v Speaker 3>very reticent to kind of talk about her dad's work.

1376
01:10:19.279 --> 01:10:20.960
<v Speaker 2>She's probably sick of talking about her dad's work.

1377
01:10:21.039 --> 01:10:24.960
<v Speaker 3>But I don't know, but I do think that just

1378
01:10:25.079 --> 01:10:29.079
<v Speaker 3>the film itself, what we have itself is like extremely

1379
01:10:29.239 --> 01:10:33.079
<v Speaker 3>extremely revelatory. I mean, and it's been picked apart. We've

1380
01:10:33.079 --> 01:10:35.600
<v Speaker 3>been picking it apart for over ten years. Like there's

1381
01:10:35.600 --> 01:10:39.880
<v Speaker 3>so many details and clues that now it's not hard

1382
01:10:39.960 --> 01:10:41.880
<v Speaker 3>to figure out right post Epstein, like.

1383
01:10:41.920 --> 01:10:42.800
<v Speaker 2>We all know what's going on.

1384
01:10:43.199 --> 01:10:47.479
<v Speaker 3>And I just did an interview with Dasha Nekrasova. She

1385
01:10:47.680 --> 01:10:51.000
<v Speaker 3>was in that popular TV show that she just just

1386
01:10:51.079 --> 01:10:53.800
<v Speaker 3>got canceled from. And she made her own movie called

1387
01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:57.439
<v Speaker 3>Scary of sixty First, which was loosely based on Epstein

1388
01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.079
<v Speaker 3>stuff and isswad Shut. And her movie came out I

1389
01:11:00.119 --> 01:11:03.319
<v Speaker 3>think four or five years ago, but it was before

1390
01:11:03.399 --> 01:11:07.520
<v Speaker 3>all the last Epstein email stuff came out, and basically

1391
01:11:07.640 --> 01:11:11.760
<v Speaker 3>everything in her movie theorized basically that Epstein was kind

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01:11:11.760 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 3>of running this sort of you know, black male, high

1393
01:11:15.279 --> 01:11:18.279
<v Speaker 3>level black mal operation that was also like eyeswet Shut

1394
01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:22.880
<v Speaker 3>and so we kind of theorized that that's like the

1395
01:11:23.000 --> 01:11:27.159
<v Speaker 3>real understanding of iswad shut like Kubrick was telling us

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01:11:27.239 --> 01:11:31.600
<v Speaker 3>basically Epstein's style stuff in nineteen ninety eight. And I

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01:11:31.640 --> 01:11:34.600
<v Speaker 3>don't I wouldn't have a problem believing that that made him,

1398
01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:38.760
<v Speaker 3>you know, not the best friend of.

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01:11:38.760 --> 01:11:40.359
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people in the establishment.

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01:11:41.760 --> 01:11:42.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:11:42.600 --> 01:11:44.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I don't know for sure what happened to him.

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01:11:44.760 --> 01:11:47.399
<v Speaker 3>But I mean, if you're making movies like that Revelatory,

1403
01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:50.039
<v Speaker 3>that's pretty By the way, it's not just iweadch shut.

1404
01:11:50.159 --> 01:11:52.600
<v Speaker 3>Like a bunch of his films have this theme of

1405
01:11:52.720 --> 01:11:55.520
<v Speaker 3>exposing elite PDF stuff.

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01:11:57.600 --> 01:12:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Tom Cruise is in it and called Kidnan, right, And

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01:12:03.359 --> 01:12:09.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean they're in it, so they're scientologists l Ron Hubbard.

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01:12:10.760 --> 01:12:17.840
<v Speaker 1>It seems like like, well, expose what's going on in

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01:12:17.880 --> 01:12:19.039
<v Speaker 1>tRNA well, according.

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01:12:18.720 --> 01:12:20.760
<v Speaker 2>To Vivian, to get people to accept it.

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01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:22.199
<v Speaker 3>So I don't think.

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01:12:23.520 --> 01:12:27.199
<v Speaker 2>Stanley was not a scientologist.

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01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:31.640
<v Speaker 3>So she says that she believes that he had premonitions

1414
01:12:31.680 --> 01:12:33.520
<v Speaker 3>about stuff, and then he had a little bit of

1415
01:12:33.600 --> 01:12:38.079
<v Speaker 3>psychic abilities, but he wasn't involved in any cult or

1416
01:12:38.159 --> 01:12:43.039
<v Speaker 3>occult stuff, according to her. So and she says, also

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01:12:43.119 --> 01:12:46.960
<v Speaker 3>people have a misconception that he was a leftist because

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01:12:47.000 --> 01:12:49.000
<v Speaker 3>they think everybody in Hollywood's left us. But actually he

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01:12:49.159 --> 01:12:51.640
<v Speaker 3>was more on the GOP conservative side of stuff.

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01:12:52.600 --> 01:12:57.520
<v Speaker 2>So she argues that, like, he was not promoting establishment

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01:12:57.600 --> 01:12:58.640
<v Speaker 2>narratives willingly.

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01:12:59.560 --> 01:13:01.119
<v Speaker 3>You know, there was times where obviously he would have

1423
01:13:01.239 --> 01:13:04.319
<v Speaker 3>to work with this or that group to get something filmed,

1424
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:07.479
<v Speaker 3>like you two thousand and one, when they came to

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01:13:07.560 --> 01:13:09.279
<v Speaker 3>him when he was a young filmmaker, he was like, yeah, of.

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01:13:09.279 --> 01:13:10.640
<v Speaker 2>Course, I'll work with NASA or whoever.

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01:13:11.359 --> 01:13:17.840
<v Speaker 3>But she argues that he was a sincere opponent of corruption,

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01:13:18.159 --> 01:13:21.000
<v Speaker 3>which I think is applausible thesis. So I don't think

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01:13:21.239 --> 01:13:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Eyswhite Shut was made as an establishment movie. I think

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01:13:25.560 --> 01:13:28.279
<v Speaker 3>he really was, you know, criticizing the establishment. And again

1431
01:13:28.319 --> 01:13:33.199
<v Speaker 3>it's super revelatory like sex cults, Epstein's saw Stuff, black Man.

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01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's all their assassinations by essentially what we

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01:13:37.039 --> 01:13:39.399
<v Speaker 3>called the Illuminati, right. I mean, I don't know of

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01:13:39.439 --> 01:13:43.279
<v Speaker 3>any other if that was my number one like movie

1435
01:13:43.640 --> 01:13:47.720
<v Speaker 3>exposing everything, hands down, I can't think of a better one.

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01:13:47.720 --> 01:13:50.439
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's plenty of good ones, you know, the

1437
01:13:50.640 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 3>exposed stuff like Network or they live conspiracy theory with

1438
01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.359
<v Speaker 3>Mel Gibson, But I think the most revelatories as watch

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01:13:57.359 --> 01:14:02.560
<v Speaker 3>should what do you think is the most conspiracy accurate movie?

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01:14:07.199 --> 01:14:09.399
<v Speaker 3>H If you had to pick.

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01:14:09.319 --> 01:14:15.560
<v Speaker 1>One, Independence Day? Really, Yeah, that's the that's the New

1442
01:14:15.600 --> 01:14:17.720
<v Speaker 1>World Order right there. And you know that's like Lord

1443
01:14:17.760 --> 01:14:18.119
<v Speaker 1>of the Rings.

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01:14:18.399 --> 01:14:22.680
<v Speaker 3>You mean, because of the aliens leading to everyone.

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01:14:21.560 --> 01:14:26.760
<v Speaker 1>Gets together, all the nations were that's the ultimate goal. Yes,

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01:14:27.279 --> 01:14:31.039
<v Speaker 1>Flight Shut definitely exposes the elite and all that ship

1447
01:14:31.039 --> 01:14:35.439
<v Speaker 1>they're doing, but as a like the giant picture of

1448
01:14:35.560 --> 01:14:38.840
<v Speaker 1>where we're at in space and New World Order and

1449
01:14:38.920 --> 01:14:41.760
<v Speaker 1>all that shit. Same thing with Lord of the Rings.

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01:14:41.840 --> 01:14:44.079
<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing like we're with Lord of the Rings.

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01:14:44.119 --> 01:14:46.479
<v Speaker 1>They had there was this evil fucking force with all

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01:14:46.560 --> 01:14:49.920
<v Speaker 1>these goblins and demons that are getting over castle. So

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01:14:50.000 --> 01:14:52.680
<v Speaker 1>they would go from castle to castle and ask them,

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01:14:52.680 --> 01:14:54.760
<v Speaker 1>you go, you gott to join. They're gonna fuck everybody up,

1455
01:14:54.800 --> 01:14:57.880
<v Speaker 1>you gotta join. And the ones that didn't join forces,

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01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:00.520
<v Speaker 1>what happened to them? They got ran over by the

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01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:04.439
<v Speaker 1>goblins and all the demons and shit. So the castles,

1458
01:15:04.920 --> 01:15:08.239
<v Speaker 1>which were basically like towns and villages, the ones that

1459
01:15:08.359 --> 01:15:11.239
<v Speaker 1>weren't down, they got taken over. So it's right, you

1460
01:15:11.359 --> 01:15:14.039
<v Speaker 1>better be down. When the evil you know, when the

1461
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:16.479
<v Speaker 1>aliens come, we better all work together.

1462
01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:19.399
<v Speaker 3>I know that's right because I've been doing a Tolkien

1463
01:15:19.439 --> 01:15:21.720
<v Speaker 3>deep dive. And Tolien knew about the New World Order.

1464
01:15:21.840 --> 01:15:23.159
<v Speaker 2>In fact, he and C. S.

1465
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:25.319
<v Speaker 3>Lewis, who were pretty close friends most of the time,

1466
01:15:26.079 --> 01:15:29.279
<v Speaker 3>both of their trilogies, not talking about Narnia, but C. S.

1467
01:15:29.399 --> 01:15:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Lewis wrote a space trilogy.

1468
01:15:30.680 --> 01:15:31.159
<v Speaker 3>Have you heard of that?

1469
01:15:32.000 --> 01:15:32.039
<v Speaker 1>No?

1470
01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:35.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so get this. C. S. Lewis's third volume of

1471
01:15:35.880 --> 01:15:38.640
<v Speaker 2>the Space Trilogy. It's about.

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01:15:39.840 --> 01:15:44.399
<v Speaker 3>The Aliens are actually demons and they're setting up a

1473
01:15:44.479 --> 01:15:48.800
<v Speaker 3>world government to depopulate everybody. Isn't that crazy? So the

1474
01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:51.119
<v Speaker 3>whole book is about the New World Order and depopulation

1475
01:15:51.319 --> 01:15:56.439
<v Speaker 3>through a fake alien story. And Tolkien and Lewis were friends,

1476
01:15:56.479 --> 01:15:59.600
<v Speaker 3>so they knew about this. And when Tolkien wrote Lord

1477
01:15:59.600 --> 01:16:02.279
<v Speaker 3>of the Rings, I think he is absolutely warning about

1478
01:16:02.319 --> 01:16:02.960
<v Speaker 3>the New World Order.

1479
01:16:03.399 --> 01:16:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it just it's so obvious. It's it's so And

1480
01:16:06.399 --> 01:16:08.520
<v Speaker 1>then in Lord of the Rings, the New World Order,

1481
01:16:08.560 --> 01:16:12.000
<v Speaker 1>the guy they're like the good guys, you know, they're

1482
01:16:12.039 --> 01:16:13.680
<v Speaker 1>the good Yeah, and and uh.

1483
01:16:14.239 --> 01:16:15.399
<v Speaker 3>No, they're not the good What do you mean they're

1484
01:16:15.399 --> 01:16:18.000
<v Speaker 3>not the good guys? The the saluron is who wants

1485
01:16:18.319 --> 01:16:20.880
<v Speaker 3>uh a one world order, but they.

1486
01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Lose like the ones who win. The forces that got together,

1487
01:16:24.079 --> 01:16:28.000
<v Speaker 1>don't they win eventually? Or not? Always lose? They never

1488
01:16:28.079 --> 01:16:33.800
<v Speaker 1>win like uh Tyler, Sauron doesn't win, don't they what's

1489
01:16:33.840 --> 01:16:37.600
<v Speaker 1>her name? Uh, Live Tyler. Wasn't she like? Remember she

1490
01:16:37.720 --> 01:16:38.960
<v Speaker 1>was a queen like liv Tyler?

1491
01:16:39.479 --> 01:16:41.920
<v Speaker 2>She's an elf and she marries Ara Gorn?

1492
01:16:42.399 --> 01:16:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but aren't they aren't? Don't they win? I got

1493
01:16:45.039 --> 01:16:46.199
<v Speaker 1>to see it again? They lose?

1494
01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Well, they're they're the good people. So the elves are

1495
01:16:48.720 --> 01:16:51.000
<v Speaker 3>kind of like angels and the humans. They work together

1496
01:16:51.079 --> 01:16:53.920
<v Speaker 3>to defeat the goblins, who are the beat there.

1497
01:16:54.399 --> 01:16:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, no, But what I'm talking about is is the goblins,

1498
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:02.600
<v Speaker 1>what's the the what's the evil force?

1499
01:17:02.680 --> 01:17:05.199
<v Speaker 2>The eyem of Aaron Saron.

1500
01:17:05.319 --> 01:17:08.560
<v Speaker 1>That's the aliens. Those are the aliens, and then the

1501
01:17:08.640 --> 01:17:12.640
<v Speaker 1>elves are the who the They all get together and

1502
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:14.560
<v Speaker 1>then they beat them, right, don't they win? Eventually?

1503
01:17:15.720 --> 01:17:16.479
<v Speaker 3>The good guys win?

1504
01:17:16.560 --> 01:17:20.279
<v Speaker 1>It's not so what I'm saying is that would be

1505
01:17:20.319 --> 01:17:22.560
<v Speaker 1>the New World Order. The good guys. They make them

1506
01:17:22.600 --> 01:17:23.640
<v Speaker 1>look good like they're.

1507
01:17:23.720 --> 01:17:25.920
<v Speaker 3>They're not the New World Order. It's Solron that wants

1508
01:17:26.199 --> 01:17:28.760
<v Speaker 3>one ring to rule them all, to use the Ring

1509
01:17:28.960 --> 01:17:31.319
<v Speaker 3>to control and create a one world government.

1510
01:17:31.600 --> 01:17:33.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, totally. They want one world government. Like when the

1511
01:17:33.960 --> 01:17:36.640
<v Speaker 1>aliens come in, they're gonna want a one world government too.

1512
01:17:36.760 --> 01:17:40.800
<v Speaker 1>They're the bad guys. But it's a fake alien invasion.

1513
01:17:40.920 --> 01:17:43.640
<v Speaker 1>And the fake alien invasion is to get all our

1514
01:17:43.760 --> 01:17:48.920
<v Speaker 1>nations together. And every nation is run by a fucking demon, right,

1515
01:17:49.279 --> 01:17:52.720
<v Speaker 1>But they get us scared with this fake alien invasion

1516
01:17:52.760 --> 01:17:55.600
<v Speaker 1>that we all come together and we're the good guys. Meanwhile,

1517
01:17:55.800 --> 01:17:57.079
<v Speaker 1>we've been manipulated.

1518
01:17:57.560 --> 01:17:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Does that mean?

1519
01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:00.279
<v Speaker 3>But I'm just saying. In Lord of the Ring, the

1520
01:18:00.399 --> 01:18:03.880
<v Speaker 3>narrative and Tolkien was later going to write a book

1521
01:18:03.880 --> 01:18:08.079
<v Speaker 3>about Satanic cults in that world, but he ended up

1522
01:18:08.159 --> 01:18:10.239
<v Speaker 3>dying before he wrote the story. He just had notes

1523
01:18:10.279 --> 01:18:13.279
<v Speaker 3>about it. It's based on the Christian narrative. It's a

1524
01:18:13.359 --> 01:18:18.079
<v Speaker 3>Christian theme. It's not a fake alien invasion. It's Salon

1525
01:18:18.359 --> 01:18:20.079
<v Speaker 3>in the story of the Lord of the Rings is

1526
01:18:20.239 --> 01:18:23.319
<v Speaker 3>like right below Satan, the Satan character, so he's like

1527
01:18:23.399 --> 01:18:24.359
<v Speaker 3>one of the highest demons.

1528
01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I get that. So that would be the aliens. I'm

1529
01:18:28.000 --> 01:18:29.079
<v Speaker 1>not saying it's true.

1530
01:18:28.840 --> 01:18:31.119
<v Speaker 3>But it's not a fake invasion. In this story, it's

1531
01:18:31.159 --> 01:18:35.560
<v Speaker 3>not fake. It's an actual defeat of evil. And Tolkien

1532
01:18:35.640 --> 01:18:38.319
<v Speaker 3>said the reason that he didn't write the next story

1533
01:18:38.399 --> 01:18:41.560
<v Speaker 3>about a Satanic cult in Middle Earth was because he

1534
01:18:41.680 --> 01:18:45.359
<v Speaker 3>said it would give the impression that evil wasn't fully

1535
01:18:45.479 --> 01:18:48.399
<v Speaker 3>defeated in the trilogy and that it keeps going on.

1536
01:18:48.600 --> 01:18:51.039
<v Speaker 3>But evil doesn't keep going on. There's eventually an end

1537
01:18:51.079 --> 01:18:53.039
<v Speaker 3>to evil. So I'm not understanding how it relates to

1538
01:18:53.119 --> 01:18:53.720
<v Speaker 3>Alien Vision.

1539
01:18:53.880 --> 01:18:58.199
<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, no, explain. Let me explain. In the movie, yes,

1540
01:18:58.960 --> 01:19:02.319
<v Speaker 1>it's real, the evil forces are real and they want

1541
01:19:02.359 --> 01:19:06.760
<v Speaker 1>to take over and have a one world government. That's

1542
01:19:06.800 --> 01:19:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a movie that's not real. The way it affects reality

1543
01:19:10.720 --> 01:19:14.399
<v Speaker 1>is we watch that and then when we see evil,

1544
01:19:15.039 --> 01:19:17.680
<v Speaker 1>we're going to think it's real. But it's actually fake.

1545
01:19:17.960 --> 01:19:21.319
<v Speaker 1>But it's to prepare us to unite like they did

1546
01:19:21.359 --> 01:19:23.920
<v Speaker 1>in Lord of the Rings, to defeat the evil. But

1547
01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.840
<v Speaker 1>in reality, the evil's fake. But in the movie, the

1548
01:19:27.960 --> 01:19:30.159
<v Speaker 1>evil's real and the real, and they are they do

1549
01:19:30.279 --> 01:19:32.079
<v Speaker 1>want to take over the world, and they do. They're evil,

1550
01:19:32.159 --> 01:19:33.000
<v Speaker 1>they're just below Satan.

1551
01:19:33.119 --> 01:19:35.960
<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean, maybe people to take that away from it.

1552
01:19:36.159 --> 01:19:39.359
<v Speaker 3>But in the story, the good guys, their whole argument

1553
01:19:39.520 --> 01:19:41.880
<v Speaker 3>is not to have a one world government, to be

1554
01:19:42.039 --> 01:19:45.800
<v Speaker 3>another one world government. The whole purpose of the people

1555
01:19:45.920 --> 01:19:49.640
<v Speaker 3>fighting Slen is to maintain the sovereignty of the elves

1556
01:19:49.680 --> 01:19:52.640
<v Speaker 3>as people, of the humans as people, and of the

1557
01:19:52.720 --> 01:19:53.600
<v Speaker 3>dwarves as people.

1558
01:19:53.680 --> 01:19:56.880
<v Speaker 1>It's not though, but in reality that's what we would

1559
01:19:56.920 --> 01:19:59.239
<v Speaker 1>think too. We're like, oh, yeah, we got to unite

1560
01:19:59.640 --> 01:20:02.319
<v Speaker 1>to be evil and then we're going to keep our sovereignty.

1561
01:20:02.479 --> 01:20:04.520
<v Speaker 1>But in reality, no, you didn't. We just ripped up

1562
01:20:04.520 --> 01:20:08.079
<v Speaker 1>everybody's constitution. Yeah, the aliens are gone. We defeat it.

1563
01:20:08.239 --> 01:20:10.640
<v Speaker 3>But there's nothing in Lord of the Rings that promotes

1564
01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:12.319
<v Speaker 3>that idea as far as I can tell, I think

1565
01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:14.760
<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones promoted that at the end of Game

1566
01:20:14.760 --> 01:20:17.640
<v Speaker 3>of Thrones, the way they ended the TV show version.

1567
01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:20.159
<v Speaker 3>He hasn't written the final books, and nobody knows who's

1568
01:20:20.159 --> 01:20:23.359
<v Speaker 3>going to end it, and that one that actually say

1569
01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:25.119
<v Speaker 3>we got to get rid of all the kings and

1570
01:20:25.279 --> 01:20:32.520
<v Speaker 3>have a equalitarian, egalitarian council of equal people run by

1571
01:20:32.560 --> 01:20:35.319
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of women and minorities. So Lord, Game of

1572
01:20:35.439 --> 01:20:38.960
<v Speaker 3>Thrones actually ends that way, where everybody's equal with no king.

1573
01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:41.760
<v Speaker 3>The whole point of Return of the King is that

1574
01:20:41.880 --> 01:20:45.199
<v Speaker 3>it's like a Christian story of Jesus as the return

1575
01:20:45.279 --> 01:20:47.520
<v Speaker 3>of the King. So again, I just don't understand why

1576
01:20:47.600 --> 01:20:50.359
<v Speaker 3>you would come away and you think which whatever you want.

1577
01:20:50.359 --> 01:20:52.840
<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying I never came away with the idea

1578
01:20:53.000 --> 01:20:55.239
<v Speaker 3>that Lord of the Rings is preparing us for. I

1579
01:20:55.319 --> 01:20:57.840
<v Speaker 3>mean maybe because it came out post nine to eleven,

1580
01:20:58.039 --> 01:21:01.199
<v Speaker 3>people were thinking about it, like in a terror mindset

1581
01:21:01.319 --> 01:21:04.119
<v Speaker 3>or something like that, Like the terrorists are like.

1582
01:21:04.359 --> 01:21:06.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I'm not what you're saying is correct.

1583
01:21:07.199 --> 01:21:11.319
<v Speaker 1>In the movie, the evil forces were real. They were real.

1584
01:21:11.359 --> 01:21:13.079
<v Speaker 1>They weren't. It wasn't It wasn't a movie.

1585
01:21:13.119 --> 01:21:14.039
<v Speaker 2>I understand you're not saying.

1586
01:21:14.039 --> 01:21:17.720
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a movie about a fake evil force. In

1587
01:21:17.840 --> 01:21:20.199
<v Speaker 1>the movie, it was a real evil force. And in

1588
01:21:20.279 --> 01:21:23.560
<v Speaker 1>the movie, all the castles were all uniting to fight

1589
01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:27.359
<v Speaker 1>this evil force, right, but they were preparing us. What happened, like,

1590
01:21:27.720 --> 01:21:29.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, after it was over, they're all like in

1591
01:21:30.039 --> 01:21:33.000
<v Speaker 1>gardens and shit and they're all happy and drinking tea.

1592
01:21:33.479 --> 01:21:36.159
<v Speaker 1>That's I think, in my opinion. I don't know. In

1593
01:21:36.239 --> 01:21:38.479
<v Speaker 1>my opinion, all I was saying was like, damn, they're

1594
01:21:38.479 --> 01:21:42.640
<v Speaker 1>getting everyone united, and whatever castles weren't down to fight,

1595
01:21:43.039 --> 01:21:45.279
<v Speaker 1>they got killed. So that shows you like, we got

1596
01:21:45.359 --> 01:21:46.079
<v Speaker 1>all united.

1597
01:21:46.119 --> 01:21:49.279
<v Speaker 3>So I said, so maybe that came out because Lord

1598
01:21:49.319 --> 01:21:51.640
<v Speaker 3>of the Rings the films came out right after nine

1599
01:21:51.680 --> 01:21:54.520
<v Speaker 3>to eleven, right around that time. So maybe the purpose

1600
01:21:55.000 --> 01:21:58.039
<v Speaker 3>from the establishment's vantage point of putting that out was

1601
01:21:58.119 --> 01:22:00.960
<v Speaker 3>to make people think that the ar arrists are like

1602
01:22:01.760 --> 01:22:05.399
<v Speaker 3>Salon or whatever and we got to unite against terror exactly.

1603
01:22:05.479 --> 01:22:07.319
<v Speaker 2>So that could be the case. Yeah, that's what I

1604
01:22:07.600 --> 01:22:08.159
<v Speaker 2>that's what I saw.

1605
01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw. I was like, that's what I see. But

1606
01:22:10.319 --> 01:22:15.159
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong. There could be another, uh, propaganda

1607
01:22:15.680 --> 01:22:18.079
<v Speaker 1>reason for it too. But you ever see the movie.

1608
01:22:17.920 --> 01:22:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Momento Memento with Christian Bale. Yeah, I want, I want.

1609
01:22:22.199 --> 01:22:24.479
<v Speaker 1>I wish there was a panel of people we could

1610
01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:26.479
<v Speaker 1>trust and you would definitely you would be like ahead

1611
01:22:26.520 --> 01:22:28.840
<v Speaker 1>of the panel. You want to watch a movie they

1612
01:22:28.880 --> 01:22:32.560
<v Speaker 1>has zero propaganda. I don't want no fucking propaganda. I

1613
01:22:32.680 --> 01:22:35.199
<v Speaker 1>wish there was a list of movies that was approved

1614
01:22:35.439 --> 01:22:39.640
<v Speaker 1>by twelve people in the council twelve years where they're like, dude,

1615
01:22:39.800 --> 01:22:42.279
<v Speaker 1>everybody watched the movie and they're like, this looks like

1616
01:22:42.359 --> 01:22:45.600
<v Speaker 1>a legit, actual story with zero prophet you know what

1617
01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:50.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean? And and uh, that's the one good thing

1618
01:22:50.680 --> 01:22:53.279
<v Speaker 1>about AI making movies is the one good thing because

1619
01:22:53.560 --> 01:22:57.760
<v Speaker 1>up until a movies, all the movies had to go

1620
01:22:57.920 --> 01:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>through the dream Works Filter, New Line Cinema, Columbia Uave Pictures,

1621
01:23:03.800 --> 01:23:08.319
<v Speaker 1>so whatever these giant movie companies, that's the only movies

1622
01:23:08.359 --> 01:23:10.840
<v Speaker 1>we really saw. There were some indie films too, but

1623
01:23:11.039 --> 01:23:13.079
<v Speaker 1>where do you find indie films. Most of the big

1624
01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:14.720
<v Speaker 1>movies you go to the movie theater, you go to

1625
01:23:14.880 --> 01:23:17.359
<v Speaker 1>arc Light, you go to regal if. They all go

1626
01:23:17.520 --> 01:23:20.279
<v Speaker 1>through the big houses, and by the time it gets

1627
01:23:20.319 --> 01:23:23.640
<v Speaker 1>to you, it's propagandized the shit. So the good thing

1628
01:23:23.720 --> 01:23:27.560
<v Speaker 1>about AI is anybody's gonna be able to make a

1629
01:23:27.640 --> 01:23:30.640
<v Speaker 1>movie now, so it's not gonna need to be propagandized.

1630
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>So sure, there's gonna be a lot of shit movies,

1631
01:23:33.279 --> 01:23:36.199
<v Speaker 1>but there's also gonna be a lot of great movies.

1632
01:23:36.239 --> 01:23:41.079
<v Speaker 1>We had great stories with Zebo Propaganda, Zero fucking Cia

1633
01:23:41.800 --> 01:23:44.640
<v Speaker 1>hand Over and all that shit. So I'm looking forward

1634
01:23:44.680 --> 01:23:46.359
<v Speaker 1>because people are like, oh, but it's not a real movie.

1635
01:23:46.359 --> 01:23:48.199
<v Speaker 1>It's say, I'm like, dude, shut the fuck up. You

1636
01:23:48.279 --> 01:23:51.000
<v Speaker 1>watch cartoons. You don't like cartoons. I love cartoons. That's

1637
01:23:51.039 --> 01:23:53.640
<v Speaker 1>all fake like, so like I watch animated movies. I

1638
01:23:53.680 --> 01:23:57.720
<v Speaker 1>watched the Super Marios movie with my son, fucking that one,

1639
01:23:57.960 --> 01:24:00.239
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, some people watch fake shit

1640
01:24:00.319 --> 01:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>all the time, but all of a sudden it's AI, Like,

1641
01:24:03.000 --> 01:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>oh no, that's another kind of thing. Cartoons all the

1642
01:24:05.840 --> 01:24:08.159
<v Speaker 1>goddamn time, you know what, the Simpsons. You don't want

1643
01:24:08.239 --> 01:24:12.600
<v Speaker 1>South Park, you know what I mean. So AI can

1644
01:24:12.680 --> 01:24:16.039
<v Speaker 1>be made to look like animation, that's fine. Then people

1645
01:24:16.039 --> 01:24:18.520
<v Speaker 1>will be like, Okay, it's animated, or how about AI

1646
01:24:18.640 --> 01:24:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to make it look realistic as fuck? Who cares if

1647
01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:23.119
<v Speaker 1>it's not real? Who gives the fuck. Oh, but then

1648
01:24:23.279 --> 01:24:26.880
<v Speaker 1>the actors aren't gonna have any jobs. Who gives a fuck.

1649
01:24:27.479 --> 01:24:30.560
<v Speaker 1>I just want movies without fucking pro propaganda in them.

1650
01:24:30.760 --> 01:24:33.439
<v Speaker 1>Give me a good story, you know, and not like

1651
01:24:33.560 --> 01:24:37.279
<v Speaker 1>some typical cookie cutter bullshit. Yeah, that's what I'm looking

1652
01:24:37.279 --> 01:24:38.279
<v Speaker 1>forward with AI.

1653
01:24:38.439 --> 01:24:42.079
<v Speaker 4>Anybody's gonna be able to make movies now, Yeah, I

1654
01:24:42.159 --> 01:24:44.600
<v Speaker 4>mean that could be, that's a possibility.

1655
01:24:44.720 --> 01:24:46.760
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I think everybody just assumes AI is going

1656
01:24:46.840 --> 01:24:50.159
<v Speaker 3>to be like a dystopian, you know, nightmare thing. I mean,

1657
01:24:50.239 --> 01:24:52.039
<v Speaker 3>it could be good for the arts, but I don't know,

1658
01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:54.239
<v Speaker 3>I feel like it might. I kind of feel like

1659
01:24:54.279 --> 01:24:56.039
<v Speaker 3>it's going to be a passing fab but maybe not.

1660
01:24:56.159 --> 01:24:57.079
<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's better.

1661
01:24:57.680 --> 01:24:59.520
<v Speaker 1>So I think, you know, you still got to write

1662
01:24:59.560 --> 01:25:02.600
<v Speaker 1>the You know, if you have AI write the story

1663
01:25:02.680 --> 01:25:06.159
<v Speaker 1>for you, it's gonna be generic. Just like AI can

1664
01:25:06.479 --> 01:25:08.399
<v Speaker 1>write lyrics for you, and they can write music for you.

1665
01:25:08.640 --> 01:25:10.960
<v Speaker 1>They sucks, it's not good, and people are like, oh

1666
01:25:11.000 --> 01:25:13.960
<v Speaker 1>my god, AI is writing music like kids can write songs.

1667
01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Songs are easy to write. Great songs hard to write,

1668
01:25:17.319 --> 01:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>almost impossible, but just a song. Kids can write a

1669
01:25:20.720 --> 01:25:23.079
<v Speaker 1>song and a poem. So who cares of AI can

1670
01:25:23.119 --> 01:25:26.079
<v Speaker 1>write lyrics and music. Who wants to hear that anyways?

1671
01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:29.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear that shit. But but if

1672
01:25:29.239 --> 01:25:32.560
<v Speaker 1>you can write a script and put it, you know, direct,

1673
01:25:32.680 --> 01:25:35.039
<v Speaker 1>put all these director's notes in the script and just

1674
01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:38.239
<v Speaker 1>stick it into AI and it's all your words, it's

1675
01:25:38.279 --> 01:25:41.920
<v Speaker 1>your script, and AI turns it into like like a

1676
01:25:42.279 --> 01:25:45.239
<v Speaker 1>five hundred million dollar looking movie. How is that bad?

1677
01:25:45.640 --> 01:25:47.039
<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean? That's like saying like I

1678
01:25:47.119 --> 01:25:51.119
<v Speaker 1>had this this guy owns this multimillion dollar stem cell

1679
01:25:51.199 --> 01:25:53.359
<v Speaker 1>company and he's telling me, He's like, listen, dude, you

1680
01:25:53.439 --> 01:25:55.520
<v Speaker 1>got to get this one program. It's AI, dude. We

1681
01:25:55.680 --> 01:25:57.960
<v Speaker 1>just take all our footage. We have like tens of

1682
01:25:58.039 --> 01:26:01.000
<v Speaker 1>thousands of hours of fucking video foot and he fucking

1683
01:26:01.079 --> 01:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>just puts to get edit shit that we want. We

1684
01:26:03.319 --> 01:26:05.279
<v Speaker 1>just give little prompts and it goes through everything and

1685
01:26:05.319 --> 01:26:08.560
<v Speaker 1>it just edits these awesome little promos and commercials and stuff.

1686
01:26:08.840 --> 01:26:10.640
<v Speaker 1>And I said, and I said to him, I'm like,

1687
01:26:10.960 --> 01:26:12.560
<v Speaker 1>don't you think people are going to be pissed off?

1688
01:26:12.880 --> 01:26:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Like for what?

1689
01:26:13.640 --> 01:26:16.680
<v Speaker 1>Because you didn't actually use real editors? And He's like,

1690
01:26:16.760 --> 01:26:19.760
<v Speaker 1>who gives a fuck? Like like why would we like,

1691
01:26:19.800 --> 01:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>why would we be cared? And how I just said

1692
01:26:21.560 --> 01:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>that I was being sarcastic, you know what I mean,

1693
01:26:23.159 --> 01:26:25.359
<v Speaker 1>because I'm for AI. You know what I mean what

1694
01:26:25.479 --> 01:26:28.399
<v Speaker 1>I do with Ai for music, I've written a shit

1695
01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:31.479
<v Speaker 1>ton of songs for the last thirty five years. Yeah,

1696
01:26:31.640 --> 01:26:35.520
<v Speaker 1>sitting in my computer these MP three's old demos that

1697
01:26:35.600 --> 01:26:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I did back in eighty eight doing nothing, and now

1698
01:26:39.239 --> 01:26:41.760
<v Speaker 1>you could I could upload that song in the tsuno

1699
01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and then it pops up a beautifully produced version of

1700
01:26:45.439 --> 01:26:48.039
<v Speaker 1>the song, still the same lyrics, still the same chord progression,

1701
01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:50.600
<v Speaker 1>It's the same song. Hey, I didn't write the song

1702
01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.600
<v Speaker 1>a I just remixed it. And fuck, I'm having so

1703
01:26:53.840 --> 01:26:56.159
<v Speaker 1>much fun with that. It's bringing all these songs that

1704
01:26:56.239 --> 01:26:59.600
<v Speaker 1>were dead in the water for decades back to life.

1705
01:26:59.640 --> 01:27:01.560
<v Speaker 1>For me, can make any version of them. I can

1706
01:27:01.640 --> 01:27:03.800
<v Speaker 1>make a reggae version. I can make I'm making a

1707
01:27:03.920 --> 01:27:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Lana del Ray version of songs. I produce a lot

1708
01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:08.560
<v Speaker 1>of female songs, and I got all these female songs

1709
01:27:08.600 --> 01:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>with shit production. But the lyrics are great and according

1710
01:27:12.039 --> 01:27:14.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, and so are the chord progressions and everything.

1711
01:27:14.680 --> 01:27:16.279
<v Speaker 1>I put my heart and soul into these songs. It

1712
01:27:16.399 --> 01:27:18.279
<v Speaker 1>was just a production sucked. I did them on four

1713
01:27:18.520 --> 01:27:21.880
<v Speaker 1>four track task cameracorders. Now I take that same file,

1714
01:27:22.199 --> 01:27:24.520
<v Speaker 1>upload it to Suno and it pops up any version

1715
01:27:24.560 --> 01:27:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I want. I could keep it the same, just just

1716
01:27:26.960 --> 01:27:29.119
<v Speaker 1>amp up the production, make it sound like a million dollars,

1717
01:27:29.399 --> 01:27:31.359
<v Speaker 1>or I can make it a country song just like that.

1718
01:27:31.600 --> 01:27:35.239
<v Speaker 1>Like that, and for a songwriter. Songwriters always had in

1719
01:27:35.319 --> 01:27:38.000
<v Speaker 1>their head like they would write a song and they

1720
01:27:38.000 --> 01:27:41.399
<v Speaker 1>would think, man, man, this might work reggae, This might

1721
01:27:41.439 --> 01:27:44.439
<v Speaker 1>work country, This might work fucking new metal. This might

1722
01:27:44.520 --> 01:27:46.960
<v Speaker 1>work if I did it like this, This might work reggaeton.

1723
01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:49.640
<v Speaker 1>But you will never know because you're never gonna do it.

1724
01:27:49.920 --> 01:27:53.000
<v Speaker 1>No one ever does it because it's so expensive to

1725
01:27:53.399 --> 01:27:57.119
<v Speaker 1>produce a song just at a high level, and it

1726
01:27:57.199 --> 01:27:59.439
<v Speaker 1>takes too much time that you're only going to do

1727
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:01.800
<v Speaker 1>your set genre. You're not gonna do it. I'm gonna

1728
01:28:01.800 --> 01:28:04.439
<v Speaker 1>spend another five thousand dollars to make a country version

1729
01:28:04.520 --> 01:28:06.239
<v Speaker 1>that no one does. You would think you want other

1730
01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.079
<v Speaker 1>people to do it, like, oh shit, I did a

1731
01:28:08.119 --> 01:28:10.479
<v Speaker 1>country version of my song. But you would never do

1732
01:28:10.560 --> 01:28:12.199
<v Speaker 1>it because you don't have the time and you don't

1733
01:28:12.239 --> 01:28:12.640
<v Speaker 1>have the money.

1734
01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:13.479
<v Speaker 3>You would never.

1735
01:28:13.720 --> 01:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>But now you could make your song any version you

1736
01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:19.079
<v Speaker 1>want and just fucking tweak it any way you want

1737
01:28:19.680 --> 01:28:23.279
<v Speaker 1>like that. It's like that, Like I fucking love it. Man,

1738
01:28:23.600 --> 01:28:27.319
<v Speaker 1>It's it's what songwriters and producers been waiting for their

1739
01:28:27.319 --> 01:28:31.840
<v Speaker 1>whole life. Engineers, they're fucking panicking engineers, like they're panicking.

1740
01:28:31.960 --> 01:28:34.680
<v Speaker 1>It's like a if someone gave.

1741
01:28:34.600 --> 01:28:34.840
<v Speaker 4>You a.

1742
01:28:36.680 --> 01:28:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Mansion, you know, a ten ten million dollar mansion and

1743
01:28:40.439 --> 01:28:42.640
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking up in the hills and it's fucking amazing.

1744
01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:46.840
<v Speaker 1>It's got thirteen bedrooms, amazing backyard with a fucking Olympic

1745
01:28:46.960 --> 01:28:50.680
<v Speaker 1>pool and at tennis court, and you would take it, right,

1746
01:28:50.720 --> 01:28:52.359
<v Speaker 1>You would take the house if they just gave it

1747
01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:54.279
<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, right, but what if you found out like

1748
01:28:54.640 --> 01:28:57.199
<v Speaker 1>it was made by like robots and shit and not

1749
01:28:57.439 --> 01:28:59.479
<v Speaker 1>Mexicans from home Depot? Would you be mad? Would you

1750
01:28:59.520 --> 01:29:02.680
<v Speaker 1>give the house? You wouldn't give a fuck. He wouldn't

1751
01:29:02.680 --> 01:29:05.039
<v Speaker 1>give a fuck if robots made it. And then if

1752
01:29:05.039 --> 01:29:07.159
<v Speaker 1>they told you, you know, the architect was Ai Ai

1753
01:29:08.159 --> 01:29:11.199
<v Speaker 1>Ai designed the house. Nobody would care. No one care

1754
01:29:11.199 --> 01:29:13.479
<v Speaker 1>at all, Like oh, like, no one gives a fuck.

1755
01:29:13.800 --> 01:29:16.560
<v Speaker 1>The engineers the work, the ones that they are doing,

1756
01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:19.239
<v Speaker 1>like the hard work. They're the ones that the middleman

1757
01:29:19.319 --> 01:29:22.279
<v Speaker 1>are getting cut out. You still need to create. Just

1758
01:29:22.319 --> 01:29:25.319
<v Speaker 1>like I said, AI, write shit lyrics. Write me a

1759
01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:28.800
<v Speaker 1>song about boy meets girl girlly boy and it's gonna

1760
01:29:28.800 --> 01:29:32.039
<v Speaker 1>be generic and knowing it's gonna be this vanilla. I

1761
01:29:32.079 --> 01:29:33.479
<v Speaker 1>would never do that. I would never have a I

1762
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:35.359
<v Speaker 1>write lyrics for me. I write my own lyrics. It's

1763
01:29:35.399 --> 01:29:38.159
<v Speaker 1>my they're my lyrics or or or singers that I'm

1764
01:29:38.199 --> 01:29:41.800
<v Speaker 1>producing their lyrics and my my chord progressions I put

1765
01:29:41.840 --> 01:29:45.079
<v Speaker 1>together ship. AI just makes it sound like h like

1766
01:29:45.199 --> 01:29:47.239
<v Speaker 1>I got signed by Capitol Records and they gave me

1767
01:29:47.319 --> 01:29:50.319
<v Speaker 1>two dollars to make the album. That's the only difference,

1768
01:29:50.479 --> 01:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean? So for a producer, producers

1769
01:29:52.600 --> 01:29:54.840
<v Speaker 1>don't give a fuck who played if you're you're producing

1770
01:29:54.880 --> 01:29:57.319
<v Speaker 1>a band. A producer is producing a band. He does

1771
01:29:57.359 --> 01:29:59.560
<v Speaker 1>not give a fuck who plays bass on this album.

1772
01:29:59.640 --> 01:30:02.079
<v Speaker 1>All he he cares about is how the album is

1773
01:30:02.119 --> 01:30:04.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna make him look and are the songs gonna be

1774
01:30:04.960 --> 01:30:06.479
<v Speaker 1>as good as they can be. He don't give a

1775
01:30:06.560 --> 01:30:08.079
<v Speaker 1>fucking play. As a matter of fact, he don't like

1776
01:30:08.159 --> 01:30:10.039
<v Speaker 1>that drummer. You know, in the middle of the night,

1777
01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>they're gonna bring in another drum They're gonna bring in

1778
01:30:11.760 --> 01:30:14.079
<v Speaker 1>Travis Barker to play drums because the drummer of this

1779
01:30:14.199 --> 01:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>band just ain't cutting it. He's like out of time.

1780
01:30:16.399 --> 01:30:18.880
<v Speaker 1>The producer don't give a shit. The producer don't even

1781
01:30:18.880 --> 01:30:20.399
<v Speaker 1>be like if the guy can't even pull off harmon,

1782
01:30:20.439 --> 01:30:22.479
<v Speaker 1>He's like, we're gonna bring someone else in. Like, the

1783
01:30:22.520 --> 01:30:25.359
<v Speaker 1>producer don't care. The producer just cares about the product,

1784
01:30:25.560 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>the song. What does the song sound like? Now? The

1785
01:30:27.840 --> 01:30:31.039
<v Speaker 1>bass player he cares, he cares. The drummer, he cares

1786
01:30:31.239 --> 01:30:33.600
<v Speaker 1>because he's getting cut out. They're bringing in Travis Barker

1787
01:30:33.640 --> 01:30:36.359
<v Speaker 1>to redo all his drums. They care. You know, the

1788
01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:38.159
<v Speaker 1>guitar player of the guitar player that good, and they

1789
01:30:38.199 --> 01:30:44.520
<v Speaker 1>bring the dude from Alice Cooper. They're gonna care the producer,

1790
01:30:44.560 --> 01:30:48.159
<v Speaker 1>don't care the producer. My reputation is on the motherfucking

1791
01:30:48.600 --> 01:30:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Like with Smashing Pumpkins, when they first got signed, the

1792
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:57.079
<v Speaker 1>band was never around. They were always partying, and Billy

1793
01:30:57.159 --> 01:30:59.199
<v Speaker 1>Corgan was always the one on the demo making the

1794
01:30:59.239 --> 01:31:01.439
<v Speaker 1>demo tapes. You gets signed with the demo te Butch

1795
01:31:01.520 --> 01:31:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Vig signs him and he hears the demo, tap goes,

1796
01:31:04.399 --> 01:31:06.199
<v Speaker 1>it's fucking great, Let's do an album. So they go

1797
01:31:06.359 --> 01:31:09.119
<v Speaker 1>in the band's all excited. They get signed off Billy

1798
01:31:09.199 --> 01:31:12.000
<v Speaker 1>Corgan playing everything on the demo, and then when they

1799
01:31:12.079 --> 01:31:14.279
<v Speaker 1>get in the studio, butch Vig goes, what the fuck

1800
01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:16.840
<v Speaker 1>is this, Like what is this guy playing? He goes,

1801
01:31:17.319 --> 01:31:19.640
<v Speaker 1>he's the guitar player and she's the bass player, and

1802
01:31:19.760 --> 01:31:22.199
<v Speaker 1>he's all like, that's not what that's on the demo,

1803
01:31:22.319 --> 01:31:25.800
<v Speaker 1>and like so Butch Vic said, listen, motherfucker, you're playing

1804
01:31:25.880 --> 01:31:28.439
<v Speaker 1>all this shit. Okay, that was you on the demo.

1805
01:31:28.520 --> 01:31:30.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't fuck them, And so Billy had to tell

1806
01:31:31.279 --> 01:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Darcy and James, like, listen, Butch wants me to play

1807
01:31:35.800 --> 01:31:37.359
<v Speaker 1>the bass and all the guitar and they were like,

1808
01:31:37.680 --> 01:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>put the next album once. Once we do the next album,

1809
01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:43.199
<v Speaker 1>then we're gonna everyone's gonna play. So they're like, fuck, okay,

1810
01:31:43.279 --> 01:31:45.439
<v Speaker 1>I guess. And you know, Billy Corgan's he shrats. He's

1811
01:31:45.560 --> 01:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>really really good, way better than he's a shudder so

1812
01:31:49.319 --> 01:31:51.880
<v Speaker 1>they understood. And Darcy's not that great of a bass player,

1813
01:31:51.960 --> 01:31:54.039
<v Speaker 1>so she kind of she goes on the second album,

1814
01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:57.640
<v Speaker 1>then we'll all come back. So by the time before

1815
01:31:57.680 --> 01:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>the second album was worked on, butch Vig did never

1816
01:32:01.880 --> 01:32:04.039
<v Speaker 1>mind Nirvana, that blows up. That's the biggest album in

1817
01:32:04.119 --> 01:32:07.479
<v Speaker 1>the fucking world. Now butch Vig is a super star producer.

1818
01:32:07.520 --> 01:32:10.520
<v Speaker 1>He's the hottest producer in the world, and now he's

1819
01:32:10.680 --> 01:32:13.399
<v Speaker 1>his Next on his list is like doing Smashing Pumpkins

1820
01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:15.680
<v Speaker 1>second album because the first album he did with them

1821
01:32:16.079 --> 01:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>was like the biggest indie album. Yeah, yes, yesh right,

1822
01:32:21.119 --> 01:32:23.439
<v Speaker 1>that was the biggest indie album, but it wasn't like massive.

1823
01:32:23.760 --> 01:32:27.000
<v Speaker 1>But then he goes from gifsh Smashing Pumpkins big indie album.

1824
01:32:27.399 --> 01:32:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Then a Nirvana wants butch Vig because he did Smashing

1825
01:32:30.800 --> 01:32:34.279
<v Speaker 1>Pumpkins big indie album, Havanna blows the fuck up there,

1826
01:32:34.640 --> 01:32:38.119
<v Speaker 1>go through the fucking stratosphere and now, uh, they're gonna

1827
01:32:38.119 --> 01:32:40.800
<v Speaker 1>do the Smashing Pumpkin to do their second album, Simon's Dream.

1828
01:32:41.560 --> 01:32:44.600
<v Speaker 1>So now Butch Vig's fucking reputation is on the line.

1829
01:32:44.720 --> 01:32:46.279
<v Speaker 1>So now they're gonna do the album. Now, Darcy and

1830
01:32:46.359 --> 01:32:48.720
<v Speaker 1>James think they're gonna play on the album, and then

1831
01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:53.039
<v Speaker 1>Butch goes, they're not fucking playing this album. You're playing

1832
01:32:53.119 --> 01:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>everything on this album. So that's where the fucking the

1833
01:32:56.079 --> 01:32:59.840
<v Speaker 1>riff started and all the divide because even on Simes,

1834
01:33:00.840 --> 01:33:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Billy played everything as far as the guitar and the

1835
01:33:03.640 --> 01:33:06.439
<v Speaker 1>bass goes. Of course, Jimmy Chamberlin on drums, he's a master.

1836
01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Billy Cory can't play drums, But as far

1837
01:33:09.800 --> 01:33:11.720
<v Speaker 1>as the bass and guitar, Billy played everything. And then

1838
01:33:11.840 --> 01:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>of course he sang most everything right. Uh So to

1839
01:33:17.000 --> 01:33:21.159
<v Speaker 1>my point was AI, all the producer cares about is

1840
01:33:21.800 --> 01:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>how good the final product is, you know, And that

1841
01:33:24.560 --> 01:33:26.239
<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean everyone should think like that. You know, if

1842
01:33:26.239 --> 01:33:28.199
<v Speaker 1>you're a bass player, you should be like, dude, I

1843
01:33:28.279 --> 01:33:30.119
<v Speaker 1>want to I want my bassline to be on this

1844
01:33:30.279 --> 01:33:33.960
<v Speaker 1>my shit. Yeah, and I get that too, but ais

1845
01:33:34.039 --> 01:33:36.520
<v Speaker 1>for creators, people that are creating. Because if you can

1846
01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:39.399
<v Speaker 1>create something and have AI fucking make it sound like

1847
01:33:39.560 --> 01:33:41.359
<v Speaker 1>like a script, you could stick You imagine sticking the

1848
01:33:41.399 --> 01:33:43.960
<v Speaker 1>script in the AI and it's all your words, it's

1849
01:33:44.000 --> 01:33:46.159
<v Speaker 1>your storyline and everything. But all of a sudden, the

1850
01:33:46.319 --> 01:33:49.760
<v Speaker 1>visuals look like they you know, it was three hundred

1851
01:33:49.800 --> 01:33:52.119
<v Speaker 1>million spent on it. That's a good thing in my eyes.

1852
01:33:52.159 --> 01:33:53.720
<v Speaker 1>That's not a bad thing. That's a good thing as

1853
01:33:53.760 --> 01:33:56.439
<v Speaker 1>long as that's the story is good and the script

1854
01:33:56.600 --> 01:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>is good.

1855
01:33:57.439 --> 01:33:57.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

1856
01:33:57.680 --> 01:33:59.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, no, I said, we're saying that's a good point.

1857
01:33:59.399 --> 01:34:01.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, yeah, I think it's definitely going to be

1858
01:34:03.560 --> 01:34:06.279
<v Speaker 3>a lot of positives. I just worry that they're going

1859
01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:09.399
<v Speaker 3>to like shut shit down before people have the ability

1860
01:34:09.520 --> 01:34:11.640
<v Speaker 3>to use it for that, you know what I mean, Like,

1861
01:34:11.960 --> 01:34:14.039
<v Speaker 3>you know we get some kind of it's so close.

1862
01:34:14.640 --> 01:34:18.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah close, man. I got guys really trying to master

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<v Speaker 1>and there's improvements, like every other day, there's like a

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<v Speaker 1>new there's it's improving like at an AI speed. Like

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<v Speaker 1>AI it's like exponential. It's like exactly ya nuclear bomb

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to work.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very hey man, I'll probably have to go pretty soon.

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<v Speaker 3>But I loved I love to If you want to

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<v Speaker 3>do it again. I'd love to come back anytime.

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<v Speaker 2>I love you.

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<v Speaker 1>This was an awesome talk likewise dog, awesome podcast. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do it again. We got way more movies to get

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<v Speaker 1>to and TV shows.

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<v Speaker 2>Man, Thank you, dude, and you have a good night

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<v Speaker 2>you too, Eddie, thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.
