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<v Speaker 1>Oh trigger warn This podcast may include explicit content that

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<v Speaker 1>will take you out of your comfort zone and make

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<v Speaker 1>you question reality.

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<v Speaker 2>Listeners.

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<v Speaker 1>Next question is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to the occult Rejects.

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<v Speaker 3>In this episode, I got Julia Cosrick Peach back with

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<v Speaker 3>us again. The last few times that we've had her

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<v Speaker 3>on it's been a blest. We went live, it's very

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<v Speaker 3>interactive chat. The fans loved this, so how to bring

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<v Speaker 3>it back again and we all live?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>And I got joining me, I got your cult reject

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<v Speaker 3>man scientist Lisa, and I got.

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<v Speaker 2>My man Headless Giant. How do you say that?

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<v Speaker 3>What's that label you got over there, schitz up poster?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, story very very fair.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah Headless yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, he's been on a roll.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta go check this.

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<v Speaker 4>We've got a bunch of good emails coming up for

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<v Speaker 4>the for the next reading of your occult slash paranormal stories.

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<v Speaker 3>So I'm really excited about that. Yeah again again, Please,

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<v Speaker 3>I've played Headless? Is he had to plug it again

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<v Speaker 3>before we get into the show. Please, if you have

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<v Speaker 3>any of these stories, any like weird dreams, a cult whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>listen off again Headless, Please email.

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<v Speaker 4>My man Headless Esoteric stories, occult stories, paranormal stories, dreams

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<v Speaker 4>that you have recurring or strange occurrences in your family.

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<v Speaker 4>You can email me at Headless Giant podcast at gmail

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<v Speaker 4>dot com and I will get those read up on

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<v Speaker 4>the air. So check that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it should be fun.

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<v Speaker 3>We've actually been getting email, well, he's been getting the

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<v Speaker 3>emails in and I think it's going to be some

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<v Speaker 3>fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely looking forward to that. And uh, yeah you want

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<v Speaker 2>to let it?

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<v Speaker 3>Did you already plug your show me podcast? Okay, no, no,

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<v Speaker 3>not you yet, Julia. We're gonna do Headless. I'll give you.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you plug your podcast already?

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<v Speaker 4>Check me out on YouTube Headless Giant Podcasts. You'll find

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<v Speaker 4>me there.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome. Thank you. Now to the main guest, Julia.

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<v Speaker 5>I am wherever you listen to podcasts, just you know,

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<v Speaker 5>not YouTube course, because fuck them. And I'm on Cult

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<v Speaker 5>of Conspiracy podcast every Saturday. I do a show for

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<v Speaker 5>them once a week, and yes, and so if you

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<v Speaker 5>want to check that out, it's called Cult ex Cosmic

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<v Speaker 5>every Saturday, and then I of course have my own show,

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<v Speaker 5>Cosmic Peach and then coming up around the corner, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't have like a release date yet, but Colby and

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<v Speaker 5>I are starting a new show. It's called The kill Room,

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<v Speaker 5>and it's going to be featured on my show as well,

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<v Speaker 5>and I'm really excited about that actually, because he has

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<v Speaker 5>such a different take on things than I do and

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<v Speaker 5>it makes for interesting conversation. So I'm really looking forward

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<v Speaker 5>to that as well.

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<v Speaker 3>That is awesome, nice, nice, and that's really cool. With

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<v Speaker 3>the culture Conspiracy, I've been dealing with those guys for

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<v Speaker 3>a few years now, and like every few months we'll

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<v Speaker 3>get together and do something. I really do like those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I highly suggest to go check them out and I will.

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<v Speaker 3>Me and Teresa are actually going to be covering a

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<v Speaker 3>topic on their show Tuesday, so the show really Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 3>covering the Saint Alamafia.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh that's awesome.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, those guys are fun.

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<v Speaker 5>The fun to talk shit with with a crazy cult leader.

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<v Speaker 3>No, but you know what, like I just even like

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes they don't agree, goes great, it's not to explain. Yeah, really,

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<v Speaker 3>I really do like having those guys on because you

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<v Speaker 3>can have.

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<v Speaker 5>People prefer that though. Yeah, nobody likes an echo chamber,

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<v Speaker 5>and I think that's why people enjoy when Colby and

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<v Speaker 5>I get together. Actually, I went on We went on

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<v Speaker 5>the White Rabbit podcast the other night, and he was

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<v Speaker 5>saying how he listened to our series called blood Ties,

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<v Speaker 5>and he said, you guys don't really agree on stuff,

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<v Speaker 5>and you'll just hash it out right there on the spot.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that's refreshing that people don't always agree

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<v Speaker 5>on certain things. Makes you think harder about whether or

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<v Speaker 5>not you have all the information you know.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, and different opinions actual don't hurt everybody.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, mm hmm. Yeah. And I mean even with the

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<v Speaker 5>topic tonight, we're all probably gonna have different opinions at

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<v Speaker 5>the end, and I'm actually going to ask you guys

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<v Speaker 5>what you think at the end. But there are certain

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<v Speaker 5>things that cannot be disputed, and then there are certain

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<v Speaker 5>things that are up for debate. So we'll see at

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<v Speaker 5>the end where you guys stand on everything. But I'm

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<v Speaker 5>actually really excited to get into the topic today as well,

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<v Speaker 5>because it's something that I'm really passionate about.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I remember a long time ago when you told

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<v Speaker 3>me you were even working on Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>I've been working on it for a couple of years

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<v Speaker 5>now and just keep adding stuff to it.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why I like when I saw that you're even

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<v Speaker 3>doing it again. It reminded me of you telling me

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<v Speaker 3>that you were getting into that. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 3>probably going years ago.

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<v Speaker 5>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh shit, I gotta get off of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I never actually superrit up the topic. That was one

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<v Speaker 2>of the topics we never spoke about.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, yeah, no, it's it's a big one, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean kind of like the last couple of

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<v Speaker 5>times I've been on the Occult Rejects. If this spills

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<v Speaker 5>over into two parts, you know, so be it. But

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<v Speaker 5>I feel like it's you know, it's early enough in

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<v Speaker 5>the afternoon we might be able to squeeze it all

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<v Speaker 5>into one. But we've been meeting so late at night

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<v Speaker 5>the last couple of times. I've feel bad for you

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<v Speaker 5>guys because I just keep going on and on and

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<v Speaker 5>you guys just like to it in the morning.

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<v Speaker 2>Like shut up. No, I've been loving it. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So, uh, do you want to get in I.

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<v Speaker 5>Mean just diving?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure? Ye have it?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>All right. Well, so we're gonna be talking about Marilyn

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<v Speaker 5>Monroe on today's episode. And of course, you know, as

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<v Speaker 5>I always say, I think all you need to do

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<v Speaker 5>to sell a mainstream narrative to people is have a

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<v Speaker 5>documentary on either HBO or Netflix with some great visuals

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<v Speaker 5>and some catchy background music, and you will one hundred

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<v Speaker 5>percent fucking brainwash everyone into thinking that's the mainstream narrative.

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<v Speaker 5>And there is no shortage of Maryland documentaries on either

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<v Speaker 5>Netflix or HBO, and they all sell you the same thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Marilyn was a severely depressed woman. She was promiscuous, she

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<v Speaker 5>really depressed. She committed suicide. She overdosed on sedative drugs,

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<v Speaker 5>and she was found nude in her home in Hollywood.

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<v Speaker 5>I believe her some part of California, and she, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>she did it to herself. And that's all that we

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<v Speaker 5>need to know is she was fucked up, depressed, took

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<v Speaker 5>a bunch of pills, killed herself. And they do a

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<v Speaker 5>great job selling you that story. And they even have

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<v Speaker 5>in one of the Netflix documentaries they interview a guy

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<v Speaker 5>was doctor Green or something like that. It's in my

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<v Speaker 5>notes and we'll get to it. But I mean, I

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<v Speaker 5>don't know where you guys stand on it, but I've

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<v Speaker 5>always thought, even as great of a sales job as

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<v Speaker 5>they do, like there had to be more to this story,

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<v Speaker 5>especially because of who she was. I mean, you guys

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<v Speaker 5>can jump in. What did you did you always think like, okay,

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<v Speaker 5>for sure she killed herself? Or did you always have questions?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I always thought as a kid, I always thought like

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<v Speaker 3>even Elvis Presley and her stories were always like, eh.

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<v Speaker 5>So Lisa, what do you think?

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<v Speaker 6>I always thought someone else killed her, always thought that, like, did.

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<v Speaker 5>You did you have any suspects.

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<v Speaker 6>The Kennedys was one, for sure, or the CIA her

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<v Speaker 6>handlers that maybe she I think when I I didn't

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<v Speaker 6>know initially, when I first her the story, I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 6>she seemed too vain to have killed herself that way

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<v Speaker 6>or just killed herself period. Plus I think that she

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<v Speaker 6>they didn't want people to know, that maybe she was

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<v Speaker 6>I heard more, I thought, you know what, I think

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<v Speaker 6>they killed her because she was going off script in

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<v Speaker 6>a way that you know, was threatening to her what

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<v Speaker 6>her job originally was, or that they were she had

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<v Speaker 6>become some some kind of like, I don't know, volatile.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, they couldn't handle her anymore.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, I mean headless. What did you think I I.

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<v Speaker 4>Grew up at a Christian home, so she was always

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<v Speaker 4>the example of, you know, this is what a decadent

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<v Speaker 4>that I was like, this doesn't make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 4>She was connected to a lot of very powerful people

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<v Speaker 4>and all of a sudden, you know, having this great

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<v Speaker 4>life and everything else, she decides to kill herself. That

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<v Speaker 4>doesn't make a lot of sense.

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<v Speaker 5>So she was kind of a cautionary tale in your household.

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<v Speaker 5>That's kind of funny to me. But I mean, so

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<v Speaker 5>there are a few things I want to get out

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<v Speaker 5>right away, because I do believe that Marilyn Monroe, even

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<v Speaker 5>the name the double m Marilyn Monroe, Monarch, mind control,

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<v Speaker 5>stuff like that, to me stands out. It does appear

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<v Speaker 5>that she probably had multiple personalities. She was probably in

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<v Speaker 5>some type of sex kit, and you know how they

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<v Speaker 5>like to use beautiful, famous women in those type of roles,

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<v Speaker 5>And she grew up in orphanages, so it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 5>anybody gave a fuck what happened to her. They essentially

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<v Speaker 5>created a cartoon character out of a real person. Her

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<v Speaker 5>name was Norma Jeane and they turned her into Marilyn Monroe.

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<v Speaker 5>They literally bleached her hair. She got a nose job,

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<v Speaker 5>they and so it was to me, I always look

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<v Speaker 5>at if someone has multiple personality disorder or d I

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<v Speaker 5>D whatever, they're usually the ones that start off as

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<v Speaker 5>normal people and then abruptly have like a bleached hair moment.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you look at it, Eminem bleached hair, Kanye

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<v Speaker 5>went crazy, bleached his hair, Lady Gaga started off normal

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<v Speaker 5>but then bleached her hair, and now I think she's

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<v Speaker 5>a trans weirdo, which and so I mean, you just

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<v Speaker 5>look at it, and it's like the bleaching of the

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<v Speaker 5>hair is almost like the signal of all right, this

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<v Speaker 5>person's undergone some fucking programming, and now you know they

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<v Speaker 5>have an alter identity. Yeah, because they they bleach their

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<v Speaker 5>hair and they literally go fucking nuts. And if you

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<v Speaker 5>look at any celebrity, even like Lindsay Lohan, she was

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<v Speaker 5>a ginger and she was so cute, she was on

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<v Speaker 5>the Disney Channel, bleached her hair, started faking a British accent,

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<v Speaker 5>and nobody fucking knows what's wrong with her now, and

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<v Speaker 5>so I just think that that's something that you can

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<v Speaker 5>look at as being odd, you know, like why did

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<v Speaker 5>they suddenly bleach their hair and they can become a

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<v Speaker 5>completely different person overnight. And I don't think Marilyn is,

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<v Speaker 5>you know, I don't think she is immune to that.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she's like example, exhibit A of multiple personality disorder.

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<v Speaker 5>And I think that, Oh yeah, go ahead. Sure.

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<v Speaker 4>So the movie The Long Kiss Good Night with Geena

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<v Speaker 4>Davis is where you've got this mk ultra assassin played

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<v Speaker 4>by Geena Day Davis who gets kicked in the head

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<v Speaker 4>her memory, and then she comes back. The memory comes back,

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<v Speaker 4>what's the very first thing she does. She bleaches her hair.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh dude, See, I'm telling you it's crazy. And it's

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<v Speaker 5>not to say, like if somebody's got a bad breakup

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<v Speaker 5>boyfriend and they don't bleach their hair, like you have

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<v Speaker 5>multiple personnelity. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about

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<v Speaker 5>celebrities who you see go through a huge transformation almost

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<v Speaker 5>overnight with the bleaching of the hair and like the

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<v Speaker 5>complete identity switch. And she really pushed the blood diamonds.

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<v Speaker 5>She was like this spokesperson for that, you know, diamonds

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<v Speaker 5>are a girl's best friend. We got a comment, Hey,

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<v Speaker 5>what's up? What's up? And so, I mean, I think

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<v Speaker 5>and Nick is probably gonna give you more information than

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<v Speaker 5>I can about this. And I'm actually kind of glad

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<v Speaker 5>we're covering this with him because I've found weird numbers

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<v Speaker 5>surrounding her and I've always had an idea of what

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<v Speaker 5>I think they mean, but Nick might be able to

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<v Speaker 5>elaborate on this. But there's a lot of eights around Maryland.

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<v Speaker 5>So I mean, I've always thought of the eight as

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<v Speaker 5>like the snake eating its tail, the infinity symbol. And

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<v Speaker 5>she did die on August fourth, sixty two and six

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<v Speaker 5>and two is eight, so and then like I believe

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<v Speaker 5>her address had some aids in it, And I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you think about that, Nick, because you probably

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<v Speaker 3>It's just the eight. I mean, it's numerical. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I like it because of the magician. I think it

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<v Speaker 3>does show like the continuation of cycles of like life

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<v Speaker 3>and death shows an unyoked eyes sense. For me, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a pretty deeply occulted in my opinion, shape or number

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<v Speaker 3>or sigil. The hell did you want to add anything

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<v Speaker 3>on that yourself?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's sort of like so much soiety, right, Fives, eights,

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<v Speaker 4>and thirteen seems to be like the pattern breakers. Right.

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<v Speaker 4>So for five, you know, you've got the perfection of

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<v Speaker 4>fifth is like the pattern breaker, and then you've got

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<v Speaker 4>the seven, like the seven planets and all the rest

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<v Speaker 4>of these holy sevens. And then the pattern breaker would

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<v Speaker 4>be the eight, twelve, you know, twelve signs of the zodiac,

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<v Speaker 4>all the rest of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>In the teen.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, these are the ones that sort of stand

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<v Speaker 4>out numerology as being the pattern breaker. And if you

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<v Speaker 4>look at her role as being the you know, putting

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<v Speaker 4>to bed all the nineteen fifties sort of value based systems,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, kind of that cautionary tale again, she was

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<v Speaker 4>the kind of pattern breaker on that whole nineteen fifties

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<v Speaker 5>And I think, you know, I've talked to Sean mccannon

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<v Speaker 5>about this a little bit too. He has this whole

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<v Speaker 5>octagon theory and the gosh, what is that thing that

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<v Speaker 5>he's always talking about in Satanism? It's like a cube

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<v Speaker 5>that keeps extruding from itself. What is that thing called?

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<v Speaker 5>Do you know what I'm talking about? It's like a

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<v Speaker 5>cube within a cube within a cube, and it just yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and it just keeps going out and it's like an

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<v Speaker 5>eight sided and it just keeps expanding. And that's also

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<v Speaker 5>why they use the octagon and like sporting stuff and

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<v Speaker 5>the eight sided. It's just the test erect Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 5>you go. Yeah, So, I mean, I do believe that

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<v Speaker 5>the eight is significant. I went on a Google search

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<v Speaker 5>one day and I just googled like major tragedies that

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<v Speaker 5>happened in August and like a lot of fucking shit.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like they specifically use August to conduct a lot

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<v Speaker 5>of these fucking rituals and shit. And I don't find

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<v Speaker 5>it at all a coincidence. She died August fourth in

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<v Speaker 5>an eight year sixty two. But so it just that

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<v Speaker 5>stuck out to me. And without even getting into too

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<v Speaker 5>much conspiracy theory stuff right off the bat, there is

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<v Speaker 5>one more thing I want to mention though, before I

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<v Speaker 5>get into like the like the autopsy findings. But you

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<v Speaker 5>guys are familiar with Eyes White Shut, right, Yes, okay.

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<v Speaker 5>The little girl in Eyes White Shut, her name is Helena,

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<v Speaker 5>and she's supposed to be getting inducted, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 5>into this this monarch mind control, sex kit and fucking

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<v Speaker 5>occult ring of women. And it pretty much shows you

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<v Speaker 5>that at the end because when they're in the toy store,

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<v Speaker 5>she gets led off by two weird guys at the

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<v Speaker 5>end of the movie and yeah, Teresa, I fucking yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 5>I did a show with Teresa about the eights. What Teresa,

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<v Speaker 5>why isn't your ass on here? Anyways, at the end

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<v Speaker 5>of Ours Wide Shut, Helena gets let off by two

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<v Speaker 5>guys and it's almost as if Alice the mom knows

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<v Speaker 5>about this. Maybe Alice is a part of the program

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<v Speaker 5>as well, and she's almost letting them take her daughter away.

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<v Speaker 5>And in the toy store there's a weird scene where

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<v Speaker 5>in the background there's a bunch of barbiees and the

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<v Speaker 5>main focus on the barbie is this Marilyn Monroe barbie

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<v Speaker 5>and it's headless. Do you know which Barbie it is?

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<v Speaker 5>I can't remember. It's like.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember one of them. I know. The scene you're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about. I just can't remember what Barbie that is, but.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a Marilyn Barbie. I can't remember what movie it is,

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<v Speaker 5>but it's it's a weird scene for showing Helena walking

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<v Speaker 5>down the toys toy store and there's two guys that

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<v Speaker 5>are following her and they're obviously gonna lead her off

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<v Speaker 5>and they it's almost like Stanley Kuber put the shot

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<v Speaker 5>of this Marilynd Barbie like right there, so it's in

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<v Speaker 5>your focal point. You do notice that you do see

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<v Speaker 5>it there.

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<v Speaker 2>You're supposed to see it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you're supposed to see it. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>the street that Marilyn lived on was Helena Drive. So

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's significant that they put these things in

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<v Speaker 5>there to kind of sink everything together.

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<v Speaker 4>Well. I think it's very important the name Helena too,

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<v Speaker 4>because even back to the one of the most widely

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<v Speaker 4>you know, read and understood mythologies goes back to the

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<v Speaker 4>Iliad and that was all sparked off by Helen of Troy,

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<v Speaker 4>and they even called everything having to do with the

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<v Speaker 4>Greek religion is Helenism, right, So this is like the

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<v Speaker 4>the Ultimate Prize will also be also being like the

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<v Speaker 4>Ultimate you know, sort of downfall of man's right, that

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<v Speaker 4>concept there.

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<v Speaker 5>It's like the Greek goddess kind of weirdness to around Maryland,

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<v Speaker 5>around the eyes wide shut thing. It's all kind of

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<v Speaker 5>ritualistic and it almost reeks of like ancient religion almost.

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<v Speaker 5>So without going too far into conspiracy, because I did

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<v Speaker 5>say this, I think to Lisa, but without even going

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<v Speaker 5>down the conspiracy theory road, I can prove that Marylyn

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<v Speaker 5>didn't kill herself just with scientific evidence. And so I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>if anybody walks away from this episode with a doubt

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<v Speaker 5>in their mind, I'd be fucking surprised, because I was

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<v Speaker 5>just absolutely appalled when I came across this shit in

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<v Speaker 5>a book and I was like, why don't more people

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<v Speaker 5>know about this? And I was like, oh, yeah, I know,

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<v Speaker 5>because they don't want you to know about this stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>But so, her official cause of death was a cute

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<v Speaker 5>barbituate poisoning, and they said it was a suicide. But

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<v Speaker 5>the medical examer penciled in a word next to suicide

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<v Speaker 5>and he put probable, like he wrote that in himself.

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<v Speaker 5>He took a pencil and literally wrote probable suicide. So

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<v Speaker 5>he wasn't even convinced that that's what really happened. But

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<v Speaker 5>they did say it was a self administered overdose of

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<v Speaker 5>sedative drugs. That's what they say. But what's weird is

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<v Speaker 5>there were absolutely no trace of tablets found in her

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<v Speaker 5>stomach at all period. No trace of tablets were found

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<v Speaker 5>in her stomach or her intestines. So she had enough

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<v Speaker 5>chloral hydrate and nimbutol in her system to legitimately kill

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<v Speaker 5>an elephant. They said she had sixty to seventy nimbutahl

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<v Speaker 5>and nineteen to twenty chloral hydrate tablets the equivalent of

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<v Speaker 5>that in her system, but somehow when they crack her open,

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<v Speaker 5>there is absolutely no trace of tablets found in the

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<v Speaker 5>stomach or the intestine. So if that's true, and she

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<v Speaker 5>had taken sixty to seventy nimbu tall pills and nineteen

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<v Speaker 5>to twenty chloral hydrate tablets, digestion stops at death, So

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<v Speaker 5>when they cracked her open, there should have been significant

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<v Speaker 5>evidence of undigested tablets in her stomach, because you die

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<v Speaker 5>before that shit actually has a chance to dissolve, you

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<v Speaker 5>die of an overdose fucking five pills in before we're

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<v Speaker 5>talking sixty to seventy nimbu tall tablets and nineteen to

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<v Speaker 5>twenty chloral hydrate tablets. But there was not a fucking

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<v Speaker 5>trace in her stomach or her intestines.

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<v Speaker 6>I have problem following, like she didn't really like to

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<v Speaker 6>take pills or something like that that I remember, dude.

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<v Speaker 5>She was a known gagger. And that's right, gentlemen. There

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<v Speaker 5>is no perfect woman out there. Marilyn was a gagger.

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<v Speaker 5>She fucking gagged, she could, and you know what, we'll

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<v Speaker 5>get into it later, but she was a fucking gagging

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<v Speaker 5>ass bitch. And the thing is, I am not a gagger,

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<v Speaker 5>and I don't even see myself being able to swallow

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<v Speaker 5>sixty to seventy pills. Actually, it would have been more

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<v Speaker 5>than that, sixty to seventy of one type of pill

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<v Speaker 5>and then twenty of another, So hello, who the fuck

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<v Speaker 5>is doing? You'd have to eat it like cereal. You'd

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<v Speaker 5>have to pour him in a bowl and fucking put

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<v Speaker 5>milk and I'm like fucking cheerios and eat them like that.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no way liquid of just trying to swallow all

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<v Speaker 3>those pills back to back.

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<v Speaker 5>They said tablets, you remember, because the iconic picture of

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<v Speaker 5>Marylyn with the pill bottle knocked over on the night stand.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I remember that.

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<v Speaker 5>So yeah, they literally say that, uh, Marilyn to have

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<v Speaker 5>swallowed pills because look, there's a tipped over pill bottle

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<v Speaker 5>on the nightstand. There was something else that was missing

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<v Speaker 5>in her autopsy though, So if digestion stops at death

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<v Speaker 5>and there was no sign of tablets in the stomach

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<v Speaker 5>or the intestines, there's also another problem is that she

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<v Speaker 5>didn't have any refractive crystals in her stomach or small intestine.

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<v Speaker 5>And basically what refractive crystals are is the active ingredient

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<v Speaker 5>in any drugs. So once the medication starts to dissolve,

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<v Speaker 5>it produces refractive crystals and they're very easily spotted in

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<v Speaker 5>the stomach or the intestine, so you can tell if

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<v Speaker 5>somebody has taken pills. So taking sixty to seventy of

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<v Speaker 5>one type of medication and twenty of another, you would

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<v Speaker 5>have thought there would be substantial residue in the stomach

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<v Speaker 5>or the small intestine. And actually Nimbu Tall is coated

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<v Speaker 5>with a super thick yellow dye and that was also

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<v Speaker 5>not present anywhere in her body. So if she was

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<v Speaker 5>to have taken seventy of those bitches, her entire stomach

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<v Speaker 5>and intestine would have been coated in this yellow dye

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<v Speaker 5>and that wasn't present as well. So somebody come at

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<v Speaker 5>me if they want to go ahead and say Marylyn

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<v Speaker 5>took some fucking pills, because where are they? Is what

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<v Speaker 5>I'd say.

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<v Speaker 3>Somebody even mentioned, I mean, there was a good chance

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<v Speaker 3>there she puked, vomited or anything like that.

420
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<v Speaker 5>So I'm actually going to get into that, but I'll

421
00:25:30.359 --> 00:25:34.119
<v Speaker 5>tell you right now. The first officer on the scene,

422
00:25:34.279 --> 00:25:41.559
<v Speaker 5>his name was Sergeant Jack Clemens, and he noted when

423
00:25:41.599 --> 00:25:46.640
<v Speaker 5>he walked into Marylyn's bedroom that there was no regurgitated

424
00:25:46.720 --> 00:25:53.279
<v Speaker 5>material anywhere in the bedroom, bathroom or near Maryland at all.

425
00:25:53.640 --> 00:25:58.559
<v Speaker 5>So he had actually reported to many suicides, and he

426
00:25:58.680 --> 00:26:01.960
<v Speaker 5>knew because he had them several times, that when a

427
00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:04.839
<v Speaker 5>person takes that many pills, before they can even all

428
00:26:04.880 --> 00:26:08.599
<v Speaker 5>start to digest and kill the person, their body goes

429
00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.519
<v Speaker 5>in evacuation mode and it literally starts fucking spewing.

430
00:26:12.440 --> 00:26:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Sometimes and up as a way of your body even

431
00:26:14.759 --> 00:26:17.079
<v Speaker 3>saying like you're doing too much drugs.

432
00:26:17.039 --> 00:26:22.000
<v Speaker 5>Right right, So imagine taking sixty to seventy nimbutohl in

433
00:26:22.119 --> 00:26:26.480
<v Speaker 5>twenty which by the way. Chloral hydrate is date rate drug,

434
00:26:27.359 --> 00:26:29.799
<v Speaker 5>or it used to be a form of it. So

435
00:26:30.119 --> 00:26:31.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't know why you'd want to kill yourself in

436
00:26:31.920 --> 00:26:34.119
<v Speaker 5>that way, but fock that, you know what I'm saying.

437
00:26:34.160 --> 00:26:37.839
<v Speaker 5>She took twenty of those and there was no regurgitative

438
00:26:37.920 --> 00:26:38.799
<v Speaker 5>material anywhere.

439
00:26:40.599 --> 00:26:47.079
<v Speaker 6>Wasn't it also at one point considered a hypnotic chlorohydrate.

440
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.799
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So imagine wanting to kill yourself in that way,

441
00:26:50.920 --> 00:26:53.640
<v Speaker 5>because then you tall the sleeping pill that wouldn't do

442
00:26:53.720 --> 00:26:55.799
<v Speaker 5>it for you, you had it on top of that

443
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:59.440
<v Speaker 5>roofy yourself. I'll look at this chloral hydrate as a

444
00:26:59.480 --> 00:27:04.240
<v Speaker 5>mood stayer for sleep disorders. Well, I don't think she Actually,

445
00:27:04.440 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 5>this is a good point to bring up. She did

446
00:27:07.839 --> 00:27:11.079
<v Speaker 5>not have access to the drugs in the amount that

447
00:27:11.200 --> 00:27:14.119
<v Speaker 5>killed her because she was seeing a psychiatrist. They were

448
00:27:14.119 --> 00:27:15.920
<v Speaker 5>trying to wean her off. They said she had a

449
00:27:15.960 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 5>serious problem, and the prescription that she had wasn't even

450
00:27:20.839 --> 00:27:27.880
<v Speaker 5>in the amount of the the the levels that she

451
00:27:27.960 --> 00:27:31.359
<v Speaker 5>had in her system. So she maybe had a prescription

452
00:27:31.480 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 5>for let's say, like twenty sleeping pills and they find

453
00:27:35.119 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 5>sixty to seventy in the in her bloodstream, and then

454
00:27:39.319 --> 00:27:42.079
<v Speaker 5>another twenty of chloral hydrate, which she didn't even have

455
00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:44.920
<v Speaker 5>a prescription for. She had a prescription for nimutoh maybe

456
00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.599
<v Speaker 5>twenty tablets, but not for chloral hydrate, and not in

457
00:27:48.640 --> 00:27:51.160
<v Speaker 5>the amounts that were found in her bloodstream. And they

458
00:27:51.160 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 5>were like, well, she's Marilyn Monroe. She could have bought

459
00:27:53.720 --> 00:27:57.799
<v Speaker 5>them from someone. She didn't have pills in her stomach,

460
00:27:58.160 --> 00:28:02.279
<v Speaker 5>So how the fuck did that level of drugs get

461
00:28:02.359 --> 00:28:06.759
<v Speaker 5>into her bloodstream? That's the main question. And if she

462
00:28:06.839 --> 00:28:10.160
<v Speaker 5>didn't take pills, because there's absolutely no evidence in her

463
00:28:10.240 --> 00:28:13.599
<v Speaker 5>stomach or digestive track that she did, how did they

464
00:28:13.599 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 5>get in there? And did Marilyn do it to herself?

465
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:21.640
<v Speaker 5>I fucking think not because think of the entry points, right,

466
00:28:22.440 --> 00:28:25.240
<v Speaker 5>did she inject it? Well, they searched her whole body

467
00:28:25.279 --> 00:28:29.519
<v Speaker 5>and there was no injection site wound anywhere. They checked

468
00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.000
<v Speaker 5>in between her toes and between her fingers, nothing there.

469
00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.720
<v Speaker 5>So what is the only other way you could get

470
00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:38.240
<v Speaker 5>that amount of drugs introduced that quickly into the body

471
00:28:38.519 --> 00:28:42.960
<v Speaker 5>to basically have that big of a payload. And that's

472
00:28:43.000 --> 00:28:45.839
<v Speaker 5>where the rest of the fucking autopsy report comes in.

473
00:28:46.039 --> 00:28:50.240
<v Speaker 5>Because she had bruises on the backs of her legs

474
00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:55.119
<v Speaker 5>and the backs of arms, and a big ass bruise

475
00:28:55.200 --> 00:28:57.920
<v Speaker 5>on one of her butt cheeks, and it looked like

476
00:28:58.319 --> 00:29:02.559
<v Speaker 5>she had been held down, like somebody had literally held

477
00:29:02.559 --> 00:29:07.200
<v Speaker 5>her arms and legs down. And her colon was purple

478
00:29:07.640 --> 00:29:12.720
<v Speaker 5>and swollen and literally looked like it was turned inside out.

479
00:29:12.920 --> 00:29:17.119
<v Speaker 5>And so yes to the comment earlier, they fucking boofed it.

480
00:29:18.079 --> 00:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think you're actually going to go there.

481
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:24.960
<v Speaker 5>Yes, her her colon was so purple and swollen that

482
00:29:25.359 --> 00:29:29.119
<v Speaker 5>they made several notes about it in the audience.

483
00:29:29.480 --> 00:29:30.720
<v Speaker 2>Was for the gag.

484
00:29:32.200 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 5>The gagging I don't.

485
00:29:33.759 --> 00:29:35.039
<v Speaker 6>Know right from that.

486
00:29:37.640 --> 00:29:40.519
<v Speaker 5>If they did so here, but that would make sense though.

487
00:29:40.960 --> 00:29:43.920
<v Speaker 6>That would make sense because, like you said, I think,

488
00:29:44.160 --> 00:29:47.160
<v Speaker 6>and I looked it up really quickly, the nemetale it

489
00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:51.599
<v Speaker 6>within fifteen to thirty minutes taking an OD amount, you

490
00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:54.839
<v Speaker 6>start to od within fifteen to thirty minutes. That is

491
00:29:54.880 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 6>not enough time to even digest any of the amount

492
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.680
<v Speaker 6>of pills that they would give you. And again she

493
00:30:00.720 --> 00:30:04.839
<v Speaker 6>didn't have pills, say that they were pills. You would

494
00:30:04.880 --> 00:30:08.240
<v Speaker 6>still see leftover pills. But to get that amount of

495
00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:13.799
<v Speaker 6>dosage in that much of your bloodstream and quickly, there

496
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:17.759
<v Speaker 6>would have to be a direct route to the bloodstream

497
00:30:18.119 --> 00:30:18.440
<v Speaker 6>without a.

498
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:22.200
<v Speaker 5>Doubt, right, and you would die before the levels reached

499
00:30:22.319 --> 00:30:26.440
<v Speaker 5>that far into your bloodstream with an oral overdose. Correct.

500
00:30:26.799 --> 00:30:29.599
<v Speaker 5>So we have to think if.

501
00:30:32.279 --> 00:30:34.400
<v Speaker 3>What I didn't know how this could put up the

502
00:30:34.759 --> 00:30:36.400
<v Speaker 3>just so I was like, why are comments popping up?

503
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:39.400
<v Speaker 5>Did you want to add something to that?

504
00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:40.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh?

505
00:30:40.240 --> 00:30:43.079
<v Speaker 4>No, he was just riffing off of that, he said,

506
00:30:43.119 --> 00:30:45.880
<v Speaker 4>no boof reflex. But yeah, I mean, obviously, if things

507
00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.839
<v Speaker 4>aren't adding up, and they're and they're noting all these peculiarities,

508
00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.799
<v Speaker 4>where's the investigation? You know, you've got millions of fans

509
00:30:52.799 --> 00:30:54.920
<v Speaker 4>out there and they can't organize to find out what

510
00:30:55.000 --> 00:30:57.680
<v Speaker 4>actually happened. I mean, are we that cut off from

511
00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:00.279
<v Speaker 4>the system at large? That's that's a real question, because

512
00:31:00.279 --> 00:31:02.440
<v Speaker 4>it's not just hers, all the rest of these cases,

513
00:31:02.480 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 4>you know.

514
00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, And I mean for me when I heard

515
00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.079
<v Speaker 5>about her colon, and I know it's funny because it is.

516
00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 5>But the problem is is nobody likes to talk about

517
00:31:13.559 --> 00:31:15.720
<v Speaker 5>the bruises that she had on the backs of her legs,

518
00:31:15.720 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 5>in her arms. Nobody's if she killed herself, how the

519
00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:21.920
<v Speaker 5>fuck did she get those? And her colon was so

520
00:31:22.519 --> 00:31:26.480
<v Speaker 5>bruised and purple that it was obvious that that's the

521
00:31:26.720 --> 00:31:31.160
<v Speaker 5>entry point for this massive It was like, well, it

522
00:31:31.200 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 5>was such an overdose that she was dead within minutes.

523
00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:38.160
<v Speaker 5>And there's actually other parts of the autopsy report that

524
00:31:38.200 --> 00:31:41.200
<v Speaker 5>fucking support that theory too. But go ahead, Nick, what

525
00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:41.880
<v Speaker 5>were you going to say?

526
00:31:42.160 --> 00:31:44.559
<v Speaker 2>I was wondering too, Listen.

527
00:31:44.759 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 3>Just stuff could have been still stuck up there for

528
00:31:47.000 --> 00:31:50.240
<v Speaker 3>you know, pills or whatever. But again, was the level

529
00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:54.920
<v Speaker 3>so high that you wouldn't even absorb all of that well,

530
00:31:55.279 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 3>like if you get to die before you even get

531
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:00.759
<v Speaker 3>that high again, but did it? I still wouldn't think

532
00:32:00.799 --> 00:32:03.440
<v Speaker 3>it would be absorbed that way. I'm still thinking it

533
00:32:03.720 --> 00:32:05.519
<v Speaker 3>was a jab.

534
00:32:06.519 --> 00:32:12.000
<v Speaker 5>With the corner and the medical examiner, they both encreage it. Well,

535
00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:15.720
<v Speaker 5>she would have had to have a liquid enema, and

536
00:32:15.799 --> 00:32:19.200
<v Speaker 5>so if you've ever seen the type of yes, it

537
00:32:19.240 --> 00:32:22.519
<v Speaker 5>was a liquid form because you want to introduce it

538
00:32:22.559 --> 00:32:25.920
<v Speaker 5>so fast into the body that it absorbs rapidly and

539
00:32:26.039 --> 00:32:31.119
<v Speaker 5>kills the percing almost instantly. Yeah, so what they what

540
00:32:31.160 --> 00:32:34.440
<v Speaker 5>they the conclusion was based on the autopsy is I

541
00:32:34.440 --> 00:32:36.920
<v Speaker 5>don't know if you've ever seen them, but there's two

542
00:32:36.960 --> 00:32:39.279
<v Speaker 5>types of enemas. There's like a bag and a hose

543
00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:41.119
<v Speaker 5>where like you fill a bag up and you run

544
00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:43.960
<v Speaker 5>a hose up your ass. And then there's another type

545
00:32:44.000 --> 00:32:45.960
<v Speaker 5>of enema where it's almost like a bulb and it

546
00:32:46.000 --> 00:32:48.559
<v Speaker 5>has like the long hope, like a long tube on it,

547
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:50.599
<v Speaker 5>and you just scored it really fast and then it

548
00:32:50.720 --> 00:32:52.759
<v Speaker 5>like flushes you and you just go about your day.

549
00:32:54.000 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 5>They decided, based on the autopsy findings that it would

550
00:32:57.400 --> 00:32:59.680
<v Speaker 5>have probably been one of those bold type inemas that

551
00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.000
<v Speaker 5>were they literally put it in her ass, squeezed it,

552
00:33:02.039 --> 00:33:05.400
<v Speaker 5>and she was dead almost instantly because of the overload

553
00:33:05.720 --> 00:33:10.240
<v Speaker 5>of They put it in such a high concentration when

554
00:33:10.279 --> 00:33:12.480
<v Speaker 5>they squirted it in there, she was probably dead within

555
00:33:12.599 --> 00:33:17.680
<v Speaker 5>like a minute, maybe less than sixty seconds. And so

556
00:33:18.279 --> 00:33:23.559
<v Speaker 5>the other reason they say that is because Marylyn had cyanosis,

557
00:33:24.400 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 5>which is something that you see when someone dies in

558
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:34.359
<v Speaker 5>a really rapid way suffocation, drowning, massive overdose, Like if

559
00:33:34.400 --> 00:33:37.519
<v Speaker 5>you shot up and you died like right after you

560
00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:41.039
<v Speaker 5>shot up, you would have cyinosis. And it's basically where

561
00:33:41.039 --> 00:33:45.640
<v Speaker 5>you turned blue from oxygen being cut off. So why

562
00:33:45.680 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 5>would you have that if you died a slow agonizing

563
00:33:50.279 --> 00:33:53.759
<v Speaker 5>pill overdose, because it takes a long time. It's like

564
00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 5>Lisa said, maybe even thirty minutes for you to even

565
00:33:56.319 --> 00:34:01.839
<v Speaker 5>start overdosing on sedative drugs. And Marylyn showed signs of cygnosis,

566
00:34:01.920 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 5>which means she died so rapidly that she literally turned blue,

567
00:34:07.359 --> 00:34:09.639
<v Speaker 5>like if she got suffocated or drowned.

568
00:34:10.039 --> 00:34:14.239
<v Speaker 6>It looks like hypothermia, like you does. All your fingernails

569
00:34:14.239 --> 00:34:17.400
<v Speaker 6>from blue, your extremities from blue. Sometimes even your ears

570
00:34:18.039 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 6>or whatever cut off, and so you start to lose

571
00:34:21.480 --> 00:34:25.159
<v Speaker 6>blood flow to these extremities and serve because you're having

572
00:34:26.679 --> 00:34:30.159
<v Speaker 6>pulmonary heart issues in order to circulate that oxygen to

573
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:30.960
<v Speaker 6>these extremities.

574
00:34:32.760 --> 00:34:37.360
<v Speaker 5>So she had particular Yes, she did. And so it's

575
00:34:37.480 --> 00:34:42.239
<v Speaker 5>just like I was saying before, when you die of

576
00:34:42.280 --> 00:34:48.480
<v Speaker 5>a sedative drug overdose by oral ingestion, there are several

577
00:34:48.519 --> 00:34:52.679
<v Speaker 5>things you can look for, vomiting pills, the digestive track,

578
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:57.679
<v Speaker 5>refractive crystals, and you usually don't have huge bruises all

579
00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:01.119
<v Speaker 5>over the back of your body, and you don't have sinosis.

580
00:35:01.239 --> 00:35:07.519
<v Speaker 5>So that with her colon showing like literal signs of

581
00:35:08.360 --> 00:35:10.079
<v Speaker 5>something being injected.

582
00:35:09.559 --> 00:35:11.559
<v Speaker 2>In there, trauma something like that.

583
00:35:11.840 --> 00:35:15.400
<v Speaker 5>Yes, And I mean this is with the medical examiner,

584
00:35:15.519 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 5>and his name was Thomas Negucci and he actually did,

585
00:35:18.960 --> 00:35:22.599
<v Speaker 5>like John Belushi's autopsy. He He's actually got a lot

586
00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:27.599
<v Speaker 5>of really famous people and done their autopsies. But the

587
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:31.039
<v Speaker 5>thing is, he was so confused by them keeping on

588
00:35:31.159 --> 00:35:33.280
<v Speaker 5>saying that she had to have died of an overdose

589
00:35:34.239 --> 00:35:36.639
<v Speaker 5>that he wanted to prove to everyone that there's no

590
00:35:36.719 --> 00:35:40.159
<v Speaker 5>way she could have. So he wanted all of her

591
00:35:40.320 --> 00:35:45.519
<v Speaker 5>organs retested, and he did the initial tests, came up

592
00:35:45.559 --> 00:35:48.199
<v Speaker 5>with this conclusion, wanted to prove it to everyone, so

593
00:35:48.280 --> 00:35:50.920
<v Speaker 5>he said, Okay, we're gonna retest all of her organs.

594
00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.719
<v Speaker 5>And then when they went to go do that, just

595
00:35:53.800 --> 00:35:56.840
<v Speaker 5>so happens somebody had hallowed Maryland out and her fucking

596
00:35:56.960 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 5>organs went missing, so they couldn't even read test them.

597
00:36:00.840 --> 00:36:03.360
<v Speaker 5>Somebody literally took all of our organs, put them in

598
00:36:03.400 --> 00:36:07.280
<v Speaker 5>a fucking bag, and they disappeared, so they could never

599
00:36:07.360 --> 00:36:12.400
<v Speaker 5>be retested, and they only had the original autopsy report

600
00:36:12.480 --> 00:36:15.480
<v Speaker 5>from the medical examiner to go off of. Nobody could

601
00:36:15.519 --> 00:36:20.519
<v Speaker 5>retest them. Nobody could fucking literally, you guys, if that

602
00:36:20.599 --> 00:36:23.519
<v Speaker 5>doesn't reek to you of a setup, I don't know

603
00:36:23.679 --> 00:36:27.679
<v Speaker 5>what else to tell you. I mean, why on earth

604
00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:32.159
<v Speaker 5>would somebody's internal organs go missing overnight, and when she

605
00:36:32.400 --> 00:36:37.760
<v Speaker 5>got to the morgue, her fucking body apparently went missing

606
00:36:38.119 --> 00:36:41.480
<v Speaker 5>for a long amount of time, and then she turned

607
00:36:41.519 --> 00:36:44.880
<v Speaker 5>back up and fucking I mean, they just they were

608
00:36:44.960 --> 00:36:48.480
<v Speaker 5>trying to hide so much stuff in such a short

609
00:36:48.599 --> 00:36:55.079
<v Speaker 5>duration of time. And then all of the original notes

610
00:36:55.119 --> 00:36:57.800
<v Speaker 5>and stuff from the medical examiner were put in a

611
00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:00.639
<v Speaker 5>file and they were sent to Washington in and nobody

612
00:37:00.679 --> 00:37:04.280
<v Speaker 5>ever saw that file again, and the only thing doctor

613
00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:07.280
<v Speaker 5>Nogucci had to go on was his original notes that

614
00:37:07.320 --> 00:37:11.679
<v Speaker 5>he wrote down for himself from her autopsy. The files

615
00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:16.119
<v Speaker 5>they're in Washington somewhere fucking buried because they don't want

616
00:37:16.199 --> 00:37:17.360
<v Speaker 5>anybody to see that ship.

617
00:37:19.519 --> 00:37:23.440
<v Speaker 4>You know, bring conspiracy. I was gonna say, it's a

618
00:37:23.440 --> 00:37:27.039
<v Speaker 4>big brain conspiracy theorists. We should start a nationwide campaign

619
00:37:27.039 --> 00:37:29.920
<v Speaker 4>of get to know your medical examiners, right because, I mean,

620
00:37:30.079 --> 00:37:32.440
<v Speaker 4>it seems doable. And if we could take the bad

621
00:37:32.480 --> 00:37:35.440
<v Speaker 4>medical examiners out and actually have people we could trust

622
00:37:35.440 --> 00:37:38.360
<v Speaker 4>in there, the murder rate is just gonna drop dramatically

623
00:37:38.480 --> 00:37:39.119
<v Speaker 4>right over now.

624
00:37:40.320 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, the club murders.

625
00:37:43.880 --> 00:37:47.079
<v Speaker 6>Is in most of them, like corners elected, the medical

626
00:37:47.119 --> 00:37:48.920
<v Speaker 6>examiners are not, or something like that.

627
00:37:49.519 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 5>It depends on that can surprise me.

628
00:37:53.119 --> 00:37:57.440
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you don't even license to be a corner or something.

629
00:37:57.440 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 6>I can't remember what it was. When we were looking

630
00:37:59.079 --> 00:38:01.960
<v Speaker 6>at best FK stuff that it was very, very intriguing

631
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.280
<v Speaker 6>how some of these corners can be elected in or

632
00:38:05.320 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 6>appointed in, not elected appointed in.

633
00:38:09.079 --> 00:38:13.440
<v Speaker 5>Well, I will say that doctor Negucci, he's worked on

634
00:38:13.519 --> 00:38:18.079
<v Speaker 5>many famous people and it's not that they've discredited him.

635
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:21.400
<v Speaker 5>They just bury him. So nobody really knows shit about it.

636
00:38:22.280 --> 00:38:26.199
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, I'm I'm sure that you never even

637
00:38:26.239 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 5>heard that name before, and he's worked on some of

638
00:38:28.039 --> 00:38:30.639
<v Speaker 5>the most famous people of all time and done their autopsies.

639
00:38:30.760 --> 00:38:33.840
<v Speaker 5>So it's not like they discredit him because he's not lying.

640
00:38:34.880 --> 00:38:38.119
<v Speaker 5>Doctor Sarah Weck yeah, uh, he's got something to do

641
00:38:38.159 --> 00:38:40.760
<v Speaker 5>with it too, but I can't remember. And actually Sarah

642
00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:45.079
<v Speaker 5>Weck worked on something to do with John Beney too.

643
00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:45.960
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

644
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:50.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. So these medical examiners, it's not like people are

645
00:38:50.039 --> 00:38:53.519
<v Speaker 5>discrediting them, it's that they bury them in everything that

646
00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:57.599
<v Speaker 5>they say. And you know, like with Marylyn, her fucking

647
00:38:57.760 --> 00:38:59.960
<v Speaker 5>organs go missing. So it's not like anybody can even

648
00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:02.519
<v Speaker 5>and go back and do their own tests and shit

649
00:39:02.840 --> 00:39:06.320
<v Speaker 5>and come up with isn't like that the scientific theory

650
00:39:06.440 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 5>is to test it twice. They can't even do that

651
00:39:08.760 --> 00:39:13.159
<v Speaker 5>because the shit goes missing. So I do also want

652
00:39:13.199 --> 00:39:20.039
<v Speaker 5>to talk about her lividity markings, which, for those who

653
00:39:20.039 --> 00:39:24.719
<v Speaker 5>don't know, lividity markings are when your blood settles in

654
00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:29.679
<v Speaker 5>your body after you die. So you can tell a

655
00:39:29.719 --> 00:39:35.000
<v Speaker 5>lot by the position someone was in when they died

656
00:39:35.079 --> 00:39:37.679
<v Speaker 5>based on the lividity markings. Because if you died on

657
00:39:37.719 --> 00:39:39.920
<v Speaker 5>your back, all the blood will settle to the back

658
00:39:39.960 --> 00:39:42.320
<v Speaker 5>of your body and your head and it'll be really

659
00:39:42.360 --> 00:39:48.119
<v Speaker 5>easy to analyze that and say this person died laying

660
00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:52.000
<v Speaker 5>face up right. But if you move a dead person

661
00:39:52.039 --> 00:39:55.079
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of times, they'll get multiple lividity markings because

662
00:39:55.119 --> 00:39:57.199
<v Speaker 5>the blood will start to settle. You flip them around,

663
00:39:57.239 --> 00:40:00.920
<v Speaker 5>they'll get a secondary lividity marking. Flip them around again,

664
00:40:00.960 --> 00:40:06.360
<v Speaker 5>they'll get what's called the tertiary lividity marking. So when

665
00:40:06.440 --> 00:40:10.559
<v Speaker 5>the when Sergeant Clemens arrived on the scene, they said

666
00:40:10.960 --> 00:40:14.840
<v Speaker 5>that Marilyn had not been moved at all, that that's

667
00:40:14.880 --> 00:40:17.840
<v Speaker 5>how they found her, that's how she died, and no

668
00:40:18.039 --> 00:40:20.719
<v Speaker 5>questions asked. This is this is how they find her,

669
00:40:21.400 --> 00:40:25.000
<v Speaker 5>and she she's laying in what's called the soldier's position,

670
00:40:25.400 --> 00:40:29.840
<v Speaker 5>which is face down with her arms and her legs

671
00:40:29.880 --> 00:40:34.840
<v Speaker 5>straight down by her sides. And they say that she

672
00:40:34.960 --> 00:40:37.760
<v Speaker 5>wasn't moved at all after she died, and that she

673
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:39.679
<v Speaker 5>just took a bunch of pills and just laid there

674
00:40:39.719 --> 00:40:43.519
<v Speaker 5>with her head hanging off the bed and died. But

675
00:40:43.840 --> 00:40:48.519
<v Speaker 5>she had not only secondary liviidity markings, she had tertiary

676
00:40:48.599 --> 00:40:52.480
<v Speaker 5>lividity markings, which means she had been flipped three times

677
00:40:52.920 --> 00:40:57.199
<v Speaker 5>after she died, and with the bruises that she had

678
00:40:57.239 --> 00:41:02.000
<v Speaker 5>on her body, it would appear based on forensic evidence.

679
00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:04.639
<v Speaker 5>This is not my opinion, that she died in a

680
00:41:04.679 --> 00:41:08.119
<v Speaker 5>face down position being held down, which caused the bruises,

681
00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:11.400
<v Speaker 5>and then she was flipped over onto her back face

682
00:41:11.480 --> 00:41:15.480
<v Speaker 5>up for a considerable period of time, which caused secondary marketings.

683
00:41:16.280 --> 00:41:19.360
<v Speaker 5>And then she was flipped over again in the face

684
00:41:19.400 --> 00:41:23.239
<v Speaker 5>down death position and left there until the police arrived.

685
00:41:23.239 --> 00:41:28.840
<v Speaker 5>So she was on one two, three times flipped after death.

686
00:41:29.559 --> 00:41:32.039
<v Speaker 5>And again, I don't know a lot of dead people

687
00:41:32.039 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 5>who get the fuck up and start flipping themselves around.

688
00:41:35.519 --> 00:41:41.960
<v Speaker 5>But explain to me how if she committed suicide she

689
00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.440
<v Speaker 5>was able to fucking as a dead corpse, flip herself

690
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:48.559
<v Speaker 5>around three or four times, and then you know, get

691
00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.519
<v Speaker 5>in the face down soldier's position before the cops arrived.

692
00:41:52.320 --> 00:41:56.119
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't make any sense.

693
00:41:58.440 --> 00:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Didn't shoot herself in the back of the head.

694
00:42:02.199 --> 00:42:04.760
<v Speaker 6>I was going to say that the face down position

695
00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 6>agrees with the enema theory.

696
00:42:08.920 --> 00:42:12.000
<v Speaker 5>Yes it did. And it also makes sense if she

697
00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.840
<v Speaker 5>died in a face down position of a sedative drug overdose,

698
00:42:15.880 --> 00:42:19.320
<v Speaker 5>why she wouldn't have vomited and why there would be

699
00:42:19.360 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 5>no regurgitated material anywhere near her body. If she died

700
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:27.639
<v Speaker 5>in a face down position with her head hanging off

701
00:42:27.679 --> 00:42:30.039
<v Speaker 5>the bed, now something else.

702
00:42:30.079 --> 00:42:32.360
<v Speaker 3>On her back, I would think puking would even be

703
00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:33.559
<v Speaker 3>more of a reason for death.

704
00:42:34.480 --> 00:42:37.639
<v Speaker 5>Well, and there there's no puke, and there's no evidence

705
00:42:37.639 --> 00:42:38.960
<v Speaker 5>that you can actually.

706
00:42:40.320 --> 00:42:42.480
<v Speaker 2>If you swallowed it right.

707
00:42:42.480 --> 00:42:46.119
<v Speaker 5>And actually the medical examiner said her stomach was empty

708
00:42:46.239 --> 00:42:48.760
<v Speaker 5>and that she hadn't even eaten that day, and that

709
00:42:48.840 --> 00:42:53.039
<v Speaker 5>she had drank some water. But that's it, And that,

710
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:56.599
<v Speaker 5>in my opinion, makes me think she was highly stressed out.

711
00:42:56.639 --> 00:42:58.920
<v Speaker 5>Because I don't know about any of you ladies out there,

712
00:42:58.920 --> 00:43:01.760
<v Speaker 5>but if I'm in a highly stressful situation, the last

713
00:43:01.760 --> 00:43:05.800
<v Speaker 5>thing I'm worried about doing is eating and like all day.

714
00:43:06.119 --> 00:43:11.320
<v Speaker 5>Supposedly she was having arguments with Robert F. Kennedy, that

715
00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:13.440
<v Speaker 5>he showed up at the house first thing in the morning,

716
00:43:13.760 --> 00:43:17.079
<v Speaker 5>that he was slamming shit around, slamming doors, screaming. The

717
00:43:17.119 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 5>housekeeper and the neighbors confirmed it, and it's like she

718
00:43:21.119 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 5>hadn't even eaten that day. She was calling her friend

719
00:43:24.760 --> 00:43:27.960
<v Speaker 5>and saying she was stressed out, like she had a

720
00:43:28.000 --> 00:43:30.400
<v Speaker 5>lot of stuff going on, and for there not to

721
00:43:30.440 --> 00:43:33.800
<v Speaker 5>be any vomit or any food in her stomach or

722
00:43:33.880 --> 00:43:36.280
<v Speaker 5>anything like this, it just suggested to me like she

723
00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:38.440
<v Speaker 5>was already stressed out, there was a lot of shit

724
00:43:38.559 --> 00:43:43.639
<v Speaker 5>going on. She definitely didn't take pills well.

725
00:43:43.719 --> 00:43:49.199
<v Speaker 4>To me, the lividity marks being secondary and tertiary indicates

726
00:43:49.280 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 4>to me that the body was being moved, So she

727
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.079
<v Speaker 4>might not have even died in that house. They just

728
00:43:54.119 --> 00:43:55.760
<v Speaker 4>placed her there afterwards.

729
00:43:55.960 --> 00:43:57.519
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if she did die in the house,

730
00:43:57.559 --> 00:44:00.800
<v Speaker 5>if I'm being honest with you. And this is where

731
00:44:00.840 --> 00:44:06.079
<v Speaker 5>it starts to get really weird, because they've the housekeeper

732
00:44:06.159 --> 00:44:10.960
<v Speaker 5>supposedly this is a story. The housekeeper finds Marilyn or no,

733
00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:14.880
<v Speaker 5>she doesn't, okay, The housekeeper says she woke up around

734
00:44:14.880 --> 00:44:16.960
<v Speaker 5>midnight and she saw that the light was still on

735
00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:20.039
<v Speaker 5>in Marylyn's room, knocked on the door, tried the handle,

736
00:44:20.119 --> 00:44:22.360
<v Speaker 5>and she couldn't get in. She thought Marilyn had locked

737
00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:24.599
<v Speaker 5>herself in her bedroom and was having like some kind

738
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:26.880
<v Speaker 5>of an anxiety attack because she wouldn't answer the door,

739
00:44:27.480 --> 00:44:32.920
<v Speaker 5>so the housekeeper supposedly called her psychiatrist to come over

740
00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:36.280
<v Speaker 5>to the house. The psychiatrist couldn't open the door, so

741
00:44:36.320 --> 00:44:38.880
<v Speaker 5>he went around the front of the house, busted in

742
00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:43.199
<v Speaker 5>the window, crawled through Marylyn's bedroom window, found her dead,

743
00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.360
<v Speaker 5>unlocked the bedroom door for the housekeeper to come in,

744
00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 5>and then they took four hours to call the cops,

745
00:44:51.199 --> 00:44:55.760
<v Speaker 5>and in the meantime called Marilyn's publicist, her primary care physician,

746
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:02.239
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of like weird Hollywood agents, and then called

747
00:45:02.280 --> 00:45:08.119
<v Speaker 5>the cops four hours later. Okay, so when Sergeant Clemens

748
00:45:08.239 --> 00:45:11.239
<v Speaker 5>arrives to the scene, they've already known Marylyn's been dead

749
00:45:11.320 --> 00:45:16.239
<v Speaker 5>for four fucking hours. And the housekeeper when he gets

750
00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:19.760
<v Speaker 5>to the house is doing laundry and he's like, what

751
00:45:19.960 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 5>have you guys been doing for the last four to

752
00:45:22.920 --> 00:45:26.800
<v Speaker 5>five hours that you didn't call the cops and you

753
00:45:26.840 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 5>couldn't inform someone that Marilyn was dead. And she was like, well,

754
00:45:30.559 --> 00:45:33.280
<v Speaker 5>I've been doing laundry. Who the fuck are you doing

755
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:36.360
<v Speaker 5>laundry for when your employer is fucking dead as shit

756
00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:39.559
<v Speaker 5>in the next room, Like, I'm pretty sure Marylyn doesn't

757
00:45:39.599 --> 00:45:43.920
<v Speaker 5>need her whites fucking washed and cleaned ready for Sunday.

758
00:45:44.440 --> 00:45:47.320
<v Speaker 5>She's dead, okay, So who are you doing laundry for

759
00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:49.960
<v Speaker 5>the laundry?

760
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:51.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

761
00:45:51.159 --> 00:45:53.920
<v Speaker 5>Right, it's like and she hated Marylyn too. She always

762
00:45:53.920 --> 00:45:56.840
<v Speaker 5>told everybody what a dick she was, So why in

763
00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:59.480
<v Speaker 5>the event of her death, are you still continuing to

764
00:45:59.519 --> 00:46:05.920
<v Speaker 5>do her lifelaundry for four hours? And then the sergeant

765
00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 5>is looking around and he says, why is the bedroom

766
00:46:08.639 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 5>window broken? And the psychiatrist gives him the story. He's like, well,

767
00:46:12.519 --> 00:46:14.760
<v Speaker 5>I was called to the house and the door was locked,

768
00:46:14.800 --> 00:46:16.360
<v Speaker 5>so I had to go around the front of the

769
00:46:16.400 --> 00:46:19.239
<v Speaker 5>house and bust open the window to get inside the house.

770
00:46:19.639 --> 00:46:22.199
<v Speaker 5>And he was like, oh, that's weird. Why is all

771
00:46:22.239 --> 00:46:25.920
<v Speaker 5>the glass on the outside of the house then, and

772
00:46:25.960 --> 00:46:28.440
<v Speaker 5>not on the inside in the bedroom?

773
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 4>That's four hours of tampering with the with the scene

774
00:46:31.679 --> 00:46:32.639
<v Speaker 4>of the crime, you.

775
00:46:32.599 --> 00:46:36.480
<v Speaker 5>Know, right, And think about it. If you were outside

776
00:46:36.519 --> 00:46:40.000
<v Speaker 5>of the house and you busted the window in and

777
00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:44.079
<v Speaker 5>then climbed through it to get to Marylyn, why is

778
00:46:44.159 --> 00:46:47.840
<v Speaker 5>all the glass in the grass outside and not on

779
00:46:47.920 --> 00:46:50.760
<v Speaker 5>the inside in the bedroom where the fuck it should

780
00:46:50.760 --> 00:46:55.039
<v Speaker 5>be if you broke into the window. There's no glass

781
00:46:55.079 --> 00:46:58.079
<v Speaker 5>in the bedroom. All the glasses on the fucking outside

782
00:46:58.079 --> 00:47:02.000
<v Speaker 5>of the house, which is consistent with what somebody breaking

783
00:47:02.039 --> 00:47:05.719
<v Speaker 5>the window from inside of the bedroom, So that part

784
00:47:05.760 --> 00:47:09.840
<v Speaker 5>of the story doesn't fucking add up. And then he goes,

785
00:47:10.079 --> 00:47:13.880
<v Speaker 5>all right, you busted in this window to get to Maryland.

786
00:47:13.920 --> 00:47:17.400
<v Speaker 5>Did you do CPR? Did you Nope? I didn't touch

787
00:47:17.440 --> 00:47:21.000
<v Speaker 5>the body. Nobody touched the body. You're a psychiatrist, you're

788
00:47:21.039 --> 00:47:24.280
<v Speaker 5>a medical professional. You just busted in a window to

789
00:47:24.400 --> 00:47:27.159
<v Speaker 5>check on Maryland, who you don't even know is dead yet.

790
00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 5>But you didn't bother to roll or over. You didn't

791
00:47:29.840 --> 00:47:33.039
<v Speaker 5>bother to administer CPR, You didn't bother to check if

792
00:47:33.079 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 5>she was dead. You just assumed so and fucking spent

793
00:47:36.960 --> 00:47:40.760
<v Speaker 5>four hours sitting around the house before you call the police.

794
00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:44.920
<v Speaker 5>It doesn't make sense. Anybody knows if you stumble upon

795
00:47:44.960 --> 00:47:47.440
<v Speaker 5>a person that looks like they're in any type of distress.

796
00:47:47.719 --> 00:47:50.559
<v Speaker 5>You check and see if they're breathing, and you administer CPR.

797
00:47:50.719 --> 00:47:54.159
<v Speaker 5>Any medical professional knows that. But he's gonna bust through

798
00:47:54.199 --> 00:47:56.440
<v Speaker 5>a window to get to her and not even bother

799
00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.159
<v Speaker 5>to check her polls, didn't touch her at all, didn't

800
00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:03.519
<v Speaker 5>do CPR nothing, she's dead, fucker, and just sat around

801
00:48:03.519 --> 00:48:06.239
<v Speaker 5>the house for four hours calling her fucking publicist before

802
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:09.519
<v Speaker 5>they they informed the police. Does that make sense?

803
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:12.639
<v Speaker 4>Somebody had to perfectly place that pill bottle over on

804
00:48:12.719 --> 00:48:14.599
<v Speaker 4>its side next to the bed, you know, I mean

805
00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 4>that was a big job.

806
00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:20.559
<v Speaker 5>Well, that's part of the next fucked up part of

807
00:48:20.559 --> 00:48:25.079
<v Speaker 5>the story is Sergeant Clemens says, Okay, there's a knocked

808
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.239
<v Speaker 5>over pill bottle on the side of the bed. You're

809
00:48:27.599 --> 00:48:31.079
<v Speaker 5>as the psychiatrist trying to tell me that she overdosed

810
00:48:31.119 --> 00:48:35.960
<v Speaker 5>on pills. That's fine, he said, If that's true, why

811
00:48:36.840 --> 00:48:41.159
<v Speaker 5>oh why is there no drinking glass next to the pills.

812
00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 5>So he starts looking. The sergeant starts looking around, and

813
00:48:47.159 --> 00:48:50.039
<v Speaker 5>the psychiatrist starts looking around, and at that point, her

814
00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:54.199
<v Speaker 5>primary care providership for whatever the fuck reason, and all

815
00:48:54.239 --> 00:48:57.559
<v Speaker 5>three of them are looking around the bedroom, the bathroom.

816
00:48:57.639 --> 00:49:00.639
<v Speaker 5>The rest of the house for a supposed dreaming glass

817
00:49:00.760 --> 00:49:03.760
<v Speaker 5>that she could have used to take these pills. Not

818
00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 5>only did they not find a drinking glass, they also

819
00:49:07.280 --> 00:49:09.920
<v Speaker 5>found out that the water had been cut off to

820
00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 5>Marylynd's house because she was in the middle of renovations,

821
00:49:13.559 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 5>and it made it even less likely that she used

822
00:49:17.800 --> 00:49:20.559
<v Speaker 5>water out of a tap or any type of And

823
00:49:20.599 --> 00:49:24.920
<v Speaker 5>so if the water is cut off from Maryland's house

824
00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:27.719
<v Speaker 5>and there's no drinking glass anywhere, there's no juice on

825
00:49:27.760 --> 00:49:31.280
<v Speaker 5>the table, there's nothing, there's no glass anywhere. How did

826
00:49:31.320 --> 00:49:36.079
<v Speaker 5>Marylyn swallow sixty to seventy ninbutah and nineteen to twenty

827
00:49:36.159 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 5>chloral hydrate tap? She dry swallowed him? Apparently that was

828
00:49:39.880 --> 00:49:40.519
<v Speaker 5>their theory.

829
00:49:42.519 --> 00:49:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Jeez. I mean, you got all this stuff up and

830
00:49:46.800 --> 00:49:48.920
<v Speaker 4>then you got to work backwards, you know, because at

831
00:49:48.920 --> 00:49:51.280
<v Speaker 4>this point you're never gonna get any answers as to

832
00:49:51.320 --> 00:49:54.760
<v Speaker 4>the death. But to get the team in place that

833
00:49:54.840 --> 00:49:56.400
<v Speaker 4>could do that sort of thing, I mean, even though

834
00:49:56.400 --> 00:49:58.719
<v Speaker 4>it's kind of an amateurish job, they still did a

835
00:49:58.719 --> 00:50:01.639
<v Speaker 4>better job than most of the assassination cruise back in

836
00:50:01.679 --> 00:50:05.159
<v Speaker 4>the nineteen sixties, who just left tons and tons of evidence.

837
00:50:05.559 --> 00:50:07.039
<v Speaker 4>You know, at the point it did.

838
00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:09.440
<v Speaker 5>A little bit better of a cleanup job with Maryland,

839
00:50:09.480 --> 00:50:13.400
<v Speaker 5>but it still wasn't impeccable because the police sergeant steps

840
00:50:13.440 --> 00:50:17.079
<v Speaker 5>away to talk to the housekeeper, asks her some questions,

841
00:50:17.159 --> 00:50:19.639
<v Speaker 5>and when he gets back to her room, right before

842
00:50:19.679 --> 00:50:22.159
<v Speaker 5>the press shows up and all the pictures are taken

843
00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.599
<v Speaker 5>of Maryland found in the nude that was the headline,

844
00:50:25.679 --> 00:50:29.039
<v Speaker 5>Marylyn found in the nude pill bottle knocked over, there

845
00:50:29.079 --> 00:50:31.679
<v Speaker 5>goes a fucking water glass right next to her nightstand,

846
00:50:32.280 --> 00:50:35.719
<v Speaker 5>So who the fuck put that there? It's in his notes.

847
00:50:35.800 --> 00:50:39.039
<v Speaker 5>There was no drinking glass of any kind. They looked

848
00:50:39.480 --> 00:50:41.920
<v Speaker 5>through the whole fucking house for one and couldn't find it.

849
00:50:42.199 --> 00:50:45.079
<v Speaker 5>But right before the people show up to start taking pictures,

850
00:50:45.360 --> 00:50:47.480
<v Speaker 5>there goes a fucking glass of water right next to

851
00:50:47.519 --> 00:50:51.599
<v Speaker 5>the bed. So they're literally planting evidence in the face

852
00:50:51.880 --> 00:50:56.280
<v Speaker 5>of the police officers. They don't like no fucks given

853
00:50:56.440 --> 00:50:59.960
<v Speaker 5>kind of shit. And if she were to have take

854
00:51:00.199 --> 00:51:05.320
<v Speaker 5>and as her autopsy report shows sixty to seventy nibutah,

855
00:51:05.800 --> 00:51:08.920
<v Speaker 5>there wouldn't have been any pills on the night stand

856
00:51:08.960 --> 00:51:11.960
<v Speaker 5>to be knocked over. The bottle would have been empty.

857
00:51:12.119 --> 00:51:16.159
<v Speaker 5>She would have I mean to have the levels that

858
00:51:16.239 --> 00:51:19.440
<v Speaker 5>she had in her body, there would have been no

859
00:51:19.599 --> 00:51:25.440
<v Speaker 5>pills left in the bottle for this fucking whatever, this

860
00:51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.320
<v Speaker 5>this photo op. I mean they did it literally just

861
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:33.480
<v Speaker 5>to make things look sensationalized, like look at these pills

862
00:51:33.519 --> 00:51:36.320
<v Speaker 5>knocked over and there goes a water glass that wasn't

863
00:51:36.320 --> 00:51:41.639
<v Speaker 5>there five minutes ago. And I mean it just it

864
00:51:41.800 --> 00:51:44.760
<v Speaker 5>does not make sense at all that she would have

865
00:51:44.840 --> 00:51:51.199
<v Speaker 5>died of a sedative drug overdose. And this guy, Sergeant

866
00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:54.199
<v Speaker 5>Jack Clemens, has tried to speak out multiple times. You

867
00:51:54.199 --> 00:51:56.480
<v Speaker 5>can find him on YouTube. There's a lot of videos

868
00:51:56.480 --> 00:52:01.519
<v Speaker 5>of him talking about the crime scene. And you know,

869
00:52:01.599 --> 00:52:05.719
<v Speaker 5>he's buried and he wasn't even asked to testify at

870
00:52:05.719 --> 00:52:09.840
<v Speaker 5>the trial, So they they've done a great job. The

871
00:52:10.360 --> 00:52:14.039
<v Speaker 5>housekeeper's quarters were separate from Maryland's house Toree, so they

872
00:52:14.039 --> 00:52:16.320
<v Speaker 5>were it was like a guest cottage with a washer

873
00:52:16.360 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 5>and dryer in it. The main house had the water

874
00:52:19.519 --> 00:52:24.320
<v Speaker 5>cut off, but the housekeeper's uh uh, I guess it

875
00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:27.079
<v Speaker 5>was like a guest cottage where she did laundry and

876
00:52:27.119 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 5>shit and she lived. But also that that's an interesting

877
00:52:30.960 --> 00:52:36.039
<v Speaker 5>thing to bring up because after the housekeeper was interviewed,

878
00:52:36.119 --> 00:52:38.679
<v Speaker 5>she fucked off to Europe for like four or five

879
00:52:38.760 --> 00:52:42.039
<v Speaker 5>years and wasn't able to testify or be questioned either

880
00:52:42.079 --> 00:52:44.159
<v Speaker 5>because her story didn't make any fucking sense.

881
00:52:44.880 --> 00:52:47.360
<v Speaker 6>And the housekeeper have enough money to fuck up.

882
00:52:47.320 --> 00:52:52.360
<v Speaker 5>In Europe, right, Well, that's another great point, because you know,

883
00:52:52.960 --> 00:52:55.760
<v Speaker 5>she was questioned, her story didn't make sense, and then

884
00:52:55.960 --> 00:53:01.320
<v Speaker 5>she fucks off to Europe. And then the night that

885
00:53:01.360 --> 00:53:05.519
<v Speaker 5>Maryland died, this guest cottage that I'm talking about, and

886
00:53:05.719 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 5>some of Maryland's personal items were broken into and stolen.

887
00:53:10.440 --> 00:53:14.320
<v Speaker 5>Like in the guest cottage, there was a cabinet, a

888
00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 5>locked cabinet with Marylyn's personal journals, and the night that

889
00:53:19.199 --> 00:53:21.719
<v Speaker 5>she died it was forcibly broken into and all the

890
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:26.119
<v Speaker 5>journals were stolen. Why, oh why, if you're gonna commit suicide,

891
00:53:26.280 --> 00:53:29.840
<v Speaker 5>use break into your own journal cabinet, steal all of

892
00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:33.320
<v Speaker 5>your own journals, hide them somewhere, roll yourself around a

893
00:53:33.320 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 5>few times after you die, clean up your vomit apparently too,

894
00:53:36.880 --> 00:53:40.840
<v Speaker 5>as a corpse, and then you know it. Just the

895
00:53:40.920 --> 00:53:44.119
<v Speaker 5>amount of stuff that was found at the crime scene

896
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:49.480
<v Speaker 5>absolutely cannot be consistent with Maryland just being a depressed

897
00:53:49.519 --> 00:53:54.960
<v Speaker 5>asshole who wanted to kill herself. It just doesn't add up,

898
00:53:55.280 --> 00:53:57.719
<v Speaker 5>And I don't even have to go conspiratorial to make

899
00:53:57.760 --> 00:54:00.679
<v Speaker 5>this not add up. I'm just telling you the literal

900
00:54:01.400 --> 00:54:06.400
<v Speaker 5>forensic evidence that makes this not add up. And I

901
00:54:06.400 --> 00:54:10.159
<v Speaker 5>don't know if you guys are into like forensic files

902
00:54:10.320 --> 00:54:12.960
<v Speaker 5>or any of the detective shows or anything like that,

903
00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:16.039
<v Speaker 5>but they always say the same thing in those shows,

904
00:54:16.239 --> 00:54:20.079
<v Speaker 5>and they say, you cannot start off an investigation with

905
00:54:20.199 --> 00:54:23.239
<v Speaker 5>a subject in your mind and try to make evidence

906
00:54:23.280 --> 00:54:26.239
<v Speaker 5>fit that subject because that's who you want it to be.

907
00:54:26.760 --> 00:54:29.320
<v Speaker 5>You have to go into an investigation and let the

908
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 5>forensic evidence tell the story and then you form your

909
00:54:34.440 --> 00:54:38.840
<v Speaker 5>suspect list based off of that evidence. And so if

910
00:54:38.840 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna do that in the case of Maryland, suicide

911
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:45.880
<v Speaker 5>is already ruled off. So who do we have left

912
00:54:46.039 --> 00:54:49.960
<v Speaker 5>that kilder because the evidence would suggest this is a homicide.

913
00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 5>So we have the CIA, Maryland's involved in all kinds

914
00:54:55.760 --> 00:54:59.920
<v Speaker 5>of weird fucking programs. We have the Kennedys, and we

915
00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:05.880
<v Speaker 5>also have the Mafia. Because the Mafia and the Kennedys

916
00:55:06.280 --> 00:55:11.400
<v Speaker 5>had Maryland's phones tapped. They had that she was literally

917
00:55:11.519 --> 00:55:15.559
<v Speaker 5>double tapped in more ways than one, I'm sure, but

918
00:55:15.639 --> 00:55:18.400
<v Speaker 5>they were running train on Maryland. The Mafia and the

919
00:55:18.480 --> 00:55:23.360
<v Speaker 5>Kennedys tapping her phones, following her everywhere, and they were

920
00:55:23.480 --> 00:55:26.800
<v Speaker 5>keeping up on her fucking whereabouts and stuff that she

921
00:55:27.039 --> 00:55:34.039
<v Speaker 5>was saying. So, uh, that is gonna be my suspect list.

922
00:55:34.159 --> 00:55:36.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't know if you guys have your own theories

923
00:55:36.519 --> 00:55:41.960
<v Speaker 5>on that, but I'm gonna go Kennedy's c I a mafia.

924
00:55:43.039 --> 00:55:47.519
<v Speaker 4>Or oh, go ahead on the CIA tip. What you're

925
00:55:47.559 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 4>saying about her journals really reminds me a lot of

926
00:55:50.079 --> 00:55:57.840
<v Speaker 4>James Jesus Angleton's hunt for these journals of Mary pinchel Meyer, right.

927
00:55:57.800 --> 00:56:00.559
<v Speaker 5>And he uh that with the Kennedys.

928
00:56:00.639 --> 00:56:04.599
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, so he was he was hunting for these journals

929
00:56:04.599 --> 00:56:07.280
<v Speaker 7>that she had basically taken from the entire early part

930
00:56:07.280 --> 00:56:10.880
<v Speaker 7>of the nineteen sixties, and basically he lost his whole

931
00:56:10.880 --> 00:56:12.159
<v Speaker 7>mind looking for these things.

932
00:56:12.159 --> 00:56:15.039
<v Speaker 4>He was seeing moles everywhere. And this is why we

933
00:56:15.079 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 4>have the Oracle Corporation today, is because they wanted to

934
00:56:17.440 --> 00:56:20.280
<v Speaker 4>get all of the information about the OSS and CIA

935
00:56:20.360 --> 00:56:24.280
<v Speaker 4>Adam's head onto a spreadsheet before you know, he completely

936
00:56:24.360 --> 00:56:26.840
<v Speaker 4>lost his mind and died. But yeah, he was looking

937
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.880
<v Speaker 4>really really hard, and this went back to Watergate as

938
00:56:29.920 --> 00:56:31.840
<v Speaker 4>well as many other things. That was the only thing

939
00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:36.119
<v Speaker 4>stolen in Watergate was Mary pinche Meyer's journals, and so

940
00:56:36.280 --> 00:56:40.920
<v Speaker 4>for Marilyn Monroe's journals to go missing in a locked cabinet,

941
00:56:41.639 --> 00:56:42.400
<v Speaker 4>it seems like, and.

942
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:47.800
<v Speaker 5>What are the coincidence that JFK was fucking both Mary

943
00:56:48.599 --> 00:56:51.960
<v Speaker 5>Pinchot Meyer and Maryland like he was fucking Boom and

944
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:55.960
<v Speaker 5>both of them ended up with stolen journals and fucking

945
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.920
<v Speaker 5>But here's the thing, because the mafia was running train

946
00:57:00.320 --> 00:57:04.039
<v Speaker 5>on Maryland too. The Mafia was severely pissed the fuck

947
00:57:04.079 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 5>off at the Kennedys because they got stabbed in the

948
00:57:07.400 --> 00:57:11.159
<v Speaker 5>back by the Kennedys after they helped them get into office.

949
00:57:11.679 --> 00:57:14.320
<v Speaker 5>So they had a fucking bone to pick with the Kennedys.

950
00:57:14.760 --> 00:57:19.000
<v Speaker 5>And so they could have framed the Kennedys because they

951
00:57:19.000 --> 00:57:23.119
<v Speaker 5>were so openly in a relationship. Both Bobby and John F.

952
00:57:23.199 --> 00:57:26.440
<v Speaker 5>Kennedy were openly in a relationship with Marylyn. Everybody fucking

953
00:57:26.519 --> 00:57:29.559
<v Speaker 5>knew about it. So it would almost make sense that

954
00:57:29.559 --> 00:57:33.000
<v Speaker 5>the mafia would kill her and then frame the Kennedys

955
00:57:33.000 --> 00:57:34.920
<v Speaker 5>to make it look like it was them because they

956
00:57:34.920 --> 00:57:38.280
<v Speaker 5>hated them so much. And also, there were a lot

957
00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.760
<v Speaker 5>of other mafia related deaths in and around that time,

958
00:57:42.119 --> 00:57:46.719
<v Speaker 5>death by massive overdose via innima bulb. That was like

959
00:57:46.760 --> 00:57:49.440
<v Speaker 5>one of their favorite fucking things to do that you

960
00:57:49.480 --> 00:57:54.000
<v Speaker 5>know they that almost is is untraceable. You just find

961
00:57:54.039 --> 00:57:57.559
<v Speaker 5>a dead person and there's no gunshot, no stab, no nothing,

962
00:57:58.119 --> 00:58:01.519
<v Speaker 5>and you administer it up their ass and it's just

963
00:58:01.559 --> 00:58:03.920
<v Speaker 5>they're dead instantly and you just go on about your date.

964
00:58:04.119 --> 00:58:07.880
<v Speaker 5>That was like a weapon of choice, if you will,

965
00:58:07.880 --> 00:58:12.960
<v Speaker 5>for the Mafias, so for me. And Robert Kennedy was

966
00:58:13.000 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 5>there that morning at Marylyn's house. Her neighbors even said

967
00:58:16.719 --> 00:58:19.400
<v Speaker 5>that they saw him and then she dies that night.

968
00:58:20.000 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 5>Maybe they set it up to make it look like

969
00:58:23.519 --> 00:58:27.079
<v Speaker 5>it was the Kennedys, but it really wasn't. But another

970
00:58:27.159 --> 00:58:32.000
<v Speaker 5>thing that's weird is the CIA plays a big part

971
00:58:32.079 --> 00:58:36.360
<v Speaker 5>to do with the cleanup because after Maryland dies, who

972
00:58:36.400 --> 00:58:40.159
<v Speaker 5>the fuck sends the cleanup crew over there? J Edgar Hoover,

973
00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:44.880
<v Speaker 5>Why the fuck is j Edgar Hoover getting involved in

974
00:58:45.000 --> 00:58:50.199
<v Speaker 5>Marilyn Monroe's so called suicide, Like, if it's just a

975
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:52.880
<v Speaker 5>suicide and it's just dry like that, if it had

976
00:58:52.920 --> 00:58:55.880
<v Speaker 5>nothing to do with the Kennedys or anyone else, why

977
00:58:56.000 --> 00:59:02.320
<v Speaker 5>is j Edgar Hoover get involved? With the clean up crew.

978
00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:10.280
<v Speaker 6>Your thoughts, Yeah, I think for sure, right, it was

979
00:59:10.320 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 6>a matter of national security to clean up that and

980
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:18.159
<v Speaker 6>take the journals because of her time with the Kennedy's.

981
00:59:18.199 --> 00:59:22.199
<v Speaker 6>That it would compromise any information that was said. Let's

982
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:24.920
<v Speaker 6>just let's just go with blandness, right, That it would

983
00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:29.719
<v Speaker 6>compromise anything any kind of conversations that was said between

984
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 6>Marylyn and the Kennedy boys. That would be why Jay

985
00:59:34.960 --> 00:59:36.960
<v Speaker 6>Edgar who are but I mean Jaeger who plays a

986
00:59:36.960 --> 00:59:39.360
<v Speaker 6>lot of parts in a lot of these murders out

987
00:59:39.360 --> 00:59:42.320
<v Speaker 6>of Hollywood. And I think, not to interrupt you, Headless,

988
00:59:42.320 --> 00:59:44.639
<v Speaker 6>but like what Tara had said in the chat, and

989
00:59:44.760 --> 00:59:45.960
<v Speaker 6>I was going to bring that up too. And I

990
00:59:46.000 --> 00:59:48.280
<v Speaker 6>think you've mentioned this in a previous show. She had

991
00:59:48.360 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 6>clearance to Lookout Mountain.

992
00:59:50.800 --> 00:59:51.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh yes, she did.

993
00:59:53.079 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 6>Appearance to some of the highest types of places.

994
00:59:58.880 --> 01:00:02.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I actually ment. And we are scheduled to do

995
01:00:02.639 --> 01:00:05.880
<v Speaker 5>this episode. I hope you're on it, Lisa and Headless YouTube,

996
01:00:05.920 --> 01:00:08.280
<v Speaker 5>But we're gonna do Colby and I are gonna do

997
01:00:08.320 --> 01:00:11.719
<v Speaker 5>Laurel Canyon. I think maybe next week isn't it. But

998
01:00:12.239 --> 01:00:14.800
<v Speaker 5>the Lookout Mountain Laboratory is a big part of the

999
01:00:14.840 --> 01:00:18.760
<v Speaker 5>Laurel Canyon scene, and only the highest of the highest,

1000
01:00:18.800 --> 01:00:22.559
<v Speaker 5>the tippity Toppers, had clearance to get into this place.

1001
01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 5>So John F. Kennedy, Marilyn Monroe, somehow, fucking Frank Sinatra

1002
01:00:28.280 --> 01:00:31.480
<v Speaker 5>with his mafia ass like a lot of these guys

1003
01:00:31.559 --> 01:00:35.800
<v Speaker 5>had top secret clearance to get into this Lookout Mountain laboratory.

1004
01:00:35.960 --> 01:00:39.599
<v Speaker 5>So don't think like I said at the beginning of

1005
01:00:39.639 --> 01:00:42.320
<v Speaker 5>this episode that Marylyn didn't have a connection with some

1006
01:00:42.440 --> 01:00:45.719
<v Speaker 5>of these programs, because she definitely was involved in them.

1007
01:00:46.119 --> 01:00:48.719
<v Speaker 5>I think she was working as like a sex kitten

1008
01:00:48.800 --> 01:00:52.559
<v Speaker 5>in some type of capacity, gathering information. And then she

1009
01:00:52.679 --> 01:00:56.639
<v Speaker 5>might have not even been aware of her role in everything,

1010
01:00:56.679 --> 01:00:58.400
<v Speaker 5>like she might have not even been aware of her

1011
01:00:58.440 --> 01:01:03.000
<v Speaker 5>altra personality. But she was definitely serving a purpose. And

1012
01:01:03.639 --> 01:01:06.840
<v Speaker 5>some people say that the birthday party close to the

1013
01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:08.920
<v Speaker 5>end of her life was what did it for the

1014
01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:13.039
<v Speaker 5>Nail and the Coffin, because she was not supposed to

1015
01:01:13.079 --> 01:01:17.880
<v Speaker 5>be at JFK's birthday party. She was actually uninvited. They said,

1016
01:01:17.920 --> 01:01:21.239
<v Speaker 5>don't fucking show up, nobody wants you here, And what

1017
01:01:21.280 --> 01:01:24.360
<v Speaker 5>does she do? She shows up anyways in a see

1018
01:01:24.360 --> 01:01:29.599
<v Speaker 5>through nude dress and sings Happy Birthday, she was like,

1019
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:32.199
<v Speaker 5>not only am I showing up, I'm gonna be the

1020
01:01:32.239 --> 01:01:36.360
<v Speaker 5>main attraction. And she literally sung Happy Birthday to the

1021
01:01:36.400 --> 01:01:42.400
<v Speaker 5>President in front of Jackie in a nude see through dress,

1022
01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:46.679
<v Speaker 5>and then she danced with Bobby and John F. Kennedy

1023
01:01:46.719 --> 01:01:52.679
<v Speaker 5>all night and all the pictures that were taken. The

1024
01:01:53.079 --> 01:01:56.559
<v Speaker 5>photographers were staying in a hotel and the CIA pounded

1025
01:01:56.599 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 5>on all their doors that night and consent scated all

1026
01:01:59.199 --> 01:02:03.199
<v Speaker 5>their cameras and all of their fucking photographs that they

1027
01:02:03.239 --> 01:02:06.840
<v Speaker 5>had taken and said, don't fucking publish anything about the

1028
01:02:06.920 --> 01:02:10.079
<v Speaker 5>Kennedys and Marilyn Monroe. And then like a couple months later,

1029
01:02:10.119 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 5>she turns up dead. But I still don't think that

1030
01:02:13.440 --> 01:02:18.480
<v Speaker 5>rules out the mafia or the CIA being in the

1031
01:02:18.599 --> 01:02:22.679
<v Speaker 5>driver's seat when it came to her death. I just

1032
01:02:22.760 --> 01:02:25.039
<v Speaker 5>I'd love to say it was the Kennedy's. I don't

1033
01:02:25.079 --> 01:02:29.280
<v Speaker 5>know if they had that type of fucking authority, you know,

1034
01:02:29.400 --> 01:02:32.159
<v Speaker 5>I think there were people working above them that got

1035
01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:33.639
<v Speaker 5>to make those calls.

1036
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:34.440
<v Speaker 2>Well.

1037
01:02:34.679 --> 01:02:38.239
<v Speaker 4>I think a lot of ways you could. You could

1038
01:02:38.239 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 4>go back to Peter Thiel's boyfriend that showed up at

1039
01:02:41.039 --> 01:02:44.719
<v Speaker 4>his birthday party uninvited and then he falls off of

1040
01:02:45.239 --> 01:02:48.239
<v Speaker 4>a balcony a couple of days later, so you've got

1041
01:02:48.280 --> 01:02:51.400
<v Speaker 4>that angle too. But I think, really, if you're going

1042
01:02:51.440 --> 01:02:54.280
<v Speaker 4>to get down to it, when Jaegar Hoover's in there

1043
01:02:54.320 --> 01:02:57.559
<v Speaker 4>looking for whatever you could find to clean up this,

1044
01:02:57.559 --> 01:03:00.559
<v Speaker 4>this whole situation, you could say that he's got a

1045
01:03:00.639 --> 01:03:03.920
<v Speaker 4>long history of collecting compromont on a lot of people.

1046
01:03:03.960 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 4>And you see that with you know, going after what's

1047
01:03:08.199 --> 01:03:11.360
<v Speaker 4>his name, MLK and other people, is like he has

1048
01:03:11.400 --> 01:03:15.400
<v Speaker 4>to collect the compromant. So even as a target of opportunity,

1049
01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:19.000
<v Speaker 4>you really get the idea that this is part of

1050
01:03:19.039 --> 01:03:23.079
<v Speaker 4>what the FBI does, is they collect compromising information and

1051
01:03:23.480 --> 01:03:26.039
<v Speaker 4>they have no jurisdiction. I mean there was according to

1052
01:03:26.440 --> 01:03:29.199
<v Speaker 4>everybody who you know reported on the crime, there was

1053
01:03:29.280 --> 01:03:32.119
<v Speaker 4>no crime committed. This was just a pure So there's

1054
01:03:32.199 --> 01:03:35.360
<v Speaker 4>absolutely no reason jurisdictionally for them to even be there

1055
01:03:35.760 --> 01:03:37.960
<v Speaker 4>for them to do the cleanup. It should be well,

1056
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean that should have been on the priorities list too,

1057
01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:44.079
<v Speaker 4>Like what did the uh, you know, FBI steal from

1058
01:03:44.559 --> 01:03:48.639
<v Speaker 4>Marilyn Monroe's house? You know, where was that declassified? I

1059
01:03:48.639 --> 01:03:51.320
<v Speaker 4>guess we didn't get that declassification. Maybe that hurts too,

1060
01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:53.880
<v Speaker 4>many people today, But I mean it's all tied into

1061
01:03:53.920 --> 01:03:56.760
<v Speaker 4>the same thing. And really is there a difference from

1062
01:03:56.800 --> 01:04:01.880
<v Speaker 4>the CIA to the mob considering Operation Underworld was basically

1063
01:04:01.960 --> 01:04:05.239
<v Speaker 4>the marriage of the MOB and the CIA, I mean

1064
01:04:05.719 --> 01:04:09.679
<v Speaker 4>or OSS at the time. You know, Operation Underworld it said,

1065
01:04:09.719 --> 01:04:12.719
<v Speaker 4>we're going to let these mobsters continue their racket on

1066
01:04:12.760 --> 01:04:16.440
<v Speaker 4>these ports and we're just gonna supervise them because they're

1067
01:04:16.440 --> 01:04:18.559
<v Speaker 4>the best ones to be able to stop any kind

1068
01:04:18.599 --> 01:04:22.039
<v Speaker 4>of foreign interference. Well when did that ever stop? I

1069
01:04:22.039 --> 01:04:25.679
<v Speaker 4>don't think that Operation Underworld ever quit, right.

1070
01:04:25.760 --> 01:04:31.360
<v Speaker 5>And that's why I say that her death specifically cannot

1071
01:04:31.360 --> 01:04:34.760
<v Speaker 5>be debated at all. Was not a suicide based on

1072
01:04:34.880 --> 01:04:39.679
<v Speaker 5>forensic evidence, But who did it? That's the conspiratorial part,

1073
01:04:39.719 --> 01:04:42.440
<v Speaker 5>because I mean, sure we could say it's one of three,

1074
01:04:42.599 --> 01:04:45.400
<v Speaker 5>one of four different agencies that could have been working

1075
01:04:45.400 --> 01:04:48.960
<v Speaker 5>in fucking cahoots together to clean this up and to

1076
01:04:49.079 --> 01:04:53.519
<v Speaker 5>do it. But that is the conspiratorial part of it,

1077
01:04:53.559 --> 01:04:56.480
<v Speaker 5>because I can tell you, based on forensic evidence that

1078
01:04:56.559 --> 01:04:59.199
<v Speaker 5>she didn't kill herself, but I can't tell you who

1079
01:04:59.199 --> 01:05:06.000
<v Speaker 5>did it. And you know, they did find a phone

1080
01:05:06.079 --> 01:05:09.159
<v Speaker 5>number for the Oval office that was scribbled on a

1081
01:05:09.159 --> 01:05:11.840
<v Speaker 5>piece of paper and balled up in Marilyn's bed that

1082
01:05:11.920 --> 01:05:17.400
<v Speaker 5>was entered into evidence. They did find that. I can

1083
01:05:17.440 --> 01:05:24.000
<v Speaker 5>tell you that there were phone calls that Marilyn made

1084
01:05:24.079 --> 01:05:26.480
<v Speaker 5>that night that would also suggest that she did not

1085
01:05:26.639 --> 01:05:29.400
<v Speaker 5>have any drugs in her system, because she actually made

1086
01:05:29.400 --> 01:05:32.000
<v Speaker 5>a phone call to one of her friends, maybe fifteen

1087
01:05:32.000 --> 01:05:35.719
<v Speaker 5>minutes before the time of death, and her friend she

1088
01:05:35.800 --> 01:05:38.159
<v Speaker 5>did not have slurred speech, She was in a complete

1089
01:05:38.199 --> 01:05:41.760
<v Speaker 5>normal frame of mind. She was talking about some projects

1090
01:05:41.840 --> 01:05:44.000
<v Speaker 5>she was working on that she was really excited about

1091
01:05:44.039 --> 01:05:48.400
<v Speaker 5>the future, and said that her psychiatrist had been weaning

1092
01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:51.559
<v Speaker 5>her off her sleeping pills and asked if her friend

1093
01:05:51.639 --> 01:05:54.000
<v Speaker 5>had any and if she did, could she bring some

1094
01:05:54.119 --> 01:05:56.440
<v Speaker 5>over because she was having a hard time going to sleep.

1095
01:05:56.800 --> 01:06:01.000
<v Speaker 5>So if she had already taken sixty to seven Nimbutohl,

1096
01:06:01.599 --> 01:06:04.800
<v Speaker 5>why would she be calling her friend fifteen minutes before

1097
01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.280
<v Speaker 5>the time of her death in a completely normal frame

1098
01:06:07.320 --> 01:06:11.320
<v Speaker 5>of mind, without slurred speech or any indication that she

1099
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:14.960
<v Speaker 5>had just taken seventy sleeping pills and asking her friend

1100
01:06:15.039 --> 01:06:19.159
<v Speaker 5>for more sleeping pills. It doesn't make sense at all.

1101
01:06:19.880 --> 01:06:23.079
<v Speaker 5>She also, right after that phone call, made a phone

1102
01:06:23.079 --> 01:06:26.920
<v Speaker 5>call to her hairstylist and confirmed her hair appointment for

1103
01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:31.519
<v Speaker 5>the next morning. So tell me why, fifteen minutes before

1104
01:06:31.679 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 5>you're fucking dead, you're calling your hairstylist to confirm your

1105
01:06:36.719 --> 01:06:39.639
<v Speaker 5>hair appointment for the next morning, like that would be

1106
01:06:39.719 --> 01:06:43.239
<v Speaker 5>on your fucking priority list of things to do. None

1107
01:06:43.280 --> 01:06:50.239
<v Speaker 5>of this makes sense whatsoever. And you know, in my opinion,

1108
01:06:50.280 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 5>the way that they sprawled out with their head hanging

1109
01:06:54.039 --> 01:06:58.079
<v Speaker 5>off the bed and completely nude, just barely covered with

1110
01:06:58.159 --> 01:07:02.800
<v Speaker 5>a sheet, in my opinion, is a humiliation ritual for

1111
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:06.360
<v Speaker 5>Marylyn because she had no makeup on, her hair looked

1112
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:11.159
<v Speaker 5>like dogshit, she was completely naked. You know, they did

1113
01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.639
<v Speaker 5>all this stuff to chad bruises all over her body,

1114
01:07:13.679 --> 01:07:16.280
<v Speaker 5>and that's the photo that they put as the headline.

1115
01:07:16.320 --> 01:07:19.320
<v Speaker 5>Marilyn found in the nude And for me, it's a

1116
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:24.199
<v Speaker 5>humiliation ritual for Marylyn because no one, I don't care

1117
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:27.679
<v Speaker 5>who you are, whether you're vain or not, wants that

1118
01:07:27.840 --> 01:07:30.400
<v Speaker 5>to be the last image that everyone sees of you,

1119
01:07:30.599 --> 01:07:35.679
<v Speaker 5>especially for a sex icon like Marylyn, and it's it's dehumanizing.

1120
01:07:36.320 --> 01:07:42.519
<v Speaker 5>And also for someone like Marilyn, who was, like I said,

1121
01:07:42.559 --> 01:07:45.800
<v Speaker 5>like a sex icon, and she was a very dramatic

1122
01:07:45.880 --> 01:07:49.079
<v Speaker 5>person and she was the life of the party, and

1123
01:07:49.199 --> 01:07:52.360
<v Speaker 5>you know she's in movies, you name it whatever. She

1124
01:07:52.679 --> 01:07:57.760
<v Speaker 5>was a avid journaler. That's why they had to break

1125
01:07:57.800 --> 01:08:01.119
<v Speaker 5>into that cabinet and steal all of her journal For

1126
01:08:01.280 --> 01:08:07.159
<v Speaker 5>someone like this, why is there no suicide note it?

1127
01:08:07.320 --> 01:08:09.960
<v Speaker 5>That doesn't make sense to me. If you take someone

1128
01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:16.399
<v Speaker 5>with the personality like Marilyn, who is literally obsessed with herself,

1129
01:08:17.199 --> 01:08:21.760
<v Speaker 5>there's no suicide note. Really, that just it just doesn't

1130
01:08:21.800 --> 01:08:24.039
<v Speaker 5>make sense to me. Whatso up? Not even like a

1131
01:08:24.079 --> 01:08:29.039
<v Speaker 5>scribble of something something iconic. I mean, you're Marilyn Monroe

1132
01:08:29.239 --> 01:08:32.079
<v Speaker 5>and you're gonna kill yourself, you don't leave a suicide note.

1133
01:08:33.000 --> 01:08:37.159
<v Speaker 5>It Just that part always bothered me. I don't care

1134
01:08:37.199 --> 01:08:40.520
<v Speaker 5>how depressed you are. At least if you're as famous

1135
01:08:40.520 --> 01:08:44.720
<v Speaker 5>as Marilyn Monroe, you might think she would have scribbled

1136
01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:47.319
<v Speaker 5>some shit down somewhere as a suicide note.

1137
01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm not sure that you can let herself be found

1138
01:08:50.119 --> 01:08:50.800
<v Speaker 2>the way she was.

1139
01:08:51.479 --> 01:08:53.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't think so either. I don't think she would

1140
01:08:53.319 --> 01:08:56.159
<v Speaker 5>have wanted to be found with no makeup on, completely

1141
01:08:56.279 --> 01:08:59.640
<v Speaker 5>nude like that. I just I just I'm not buying it.

1142
01:09:00.079 --> 01:09:04.199
<v Speaker 3>Of almost like a mindful like his, this image is

1143
01:09:04.640 --> 01:09:07.600
<v Speaker 3>sex the less time you're the last image you're going

1144
01:09:07.600 --> 01:09:08.399
<v Speaker 3>to have of this woman.

1145
01:09:08.479 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 2>Now it is fucked up.

1146
01:09:10.720 --> 01:09:16.800
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that's why I think so. The fact that so

1147
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:20.399
<v Speaker 6>this is a textbook psychology one on one, women take

1148
01:09:20.520 --> 01:09:24.920
<v Speaker 6>pills to commit suicide because women are more vain in essence, right,

1149
01:09:25.000 --> 01:09:27.119
<v Speaker 6>They don't want, you know, their head blown off and

1150
01:09:27.119 --> 01:09:29.199
<v Speaker 6>then that be the last thing you remember them. They

1151
01:09:29.239 --> 01:09:32.119
<v Speaker 6>actually want to look beautiful in their casket, even through death.

1152
01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:35.239
<v Speaker 6>They want to have that. And so if Carolin leg

1153
01:09:35.279 --> 01:09:38.079
<v Speaker 6>just say, took pills because she wanted to commit suicide,

1154
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.720
<v Speaker 6>and that would be because she was vain, then she

1155
01:09:40.840 --> 01:09:43.600
<v Speaker 6>would have gotten dolled up and taken the pills and

1156
01:09:43.720 --> 01:09:46.039
<v Speaker 6>you know, even in a neglige or something like that,

1157
01:09:46.199 --> 01:09:50.079
<v Speaker 6>been found that way or so to speak. Right, The

1158
01:09:50.159 --> 01:09:52.960
<v Speaker 6>other thing is that the fact that she was face

1159
01:09:53.039 --> 01:09:56.079
<v Speaker 6>down and naked does not agree with the whole vain

1160
01:09:56.640 --> 01:10:00.359
<v Speaker 6>aspect of it, but it agrees with someone that's pissed

1161
01:10:00.399 --> 01:10:05.000
<v Speaker 6>off at her that once for her entire image and

1162
01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:11.239
<v Speaker 6>for her whole for an infinitum to be forever ruined.

1163
01:10:11.359 --> 01:10:14.319
<v Speaker 6>And to me, and you had mentioned this on a

1164
01:10:14.319 --> 01:10:17.880
<v Speaker 6>previous show, that the fact that she showed up at.

1165
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:18.640
<v Speaker 5>The John F.

1166
01:10:18.720 --> 01:10:23.479
<v Speaker 6>Kennedy's birthday party, wearing what she wore and demanding to

1167
01:10:23.520 --> 01:10:27.359
<v Speaker 6>be you know, allowed in, and to even have the

1168
01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:30.399
<v Speaker 6>balls to even go and see means that she had

1169
01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:33.760
<v Speaker 6>that level of comfort with the Kennedys. She knew she

1170
01:10:33.840 --> 01:10:36.039
<v Speaker 6>wasn't going to be booed off stage. She knew that

1171
01:10:36.119 --> 01:10:39.199
<v Speaker 6>Kennedy wasn't going to escort her off or anything like that.

1172
01:10:39.439 --> 01:10:42.279
<v Speaker 6>She had she knew in her mind she had that

1173
01:10:42.359 --> 01:10:44.960
<v Speaker 6>way with them that she could get away with it.

1174
01:10:45.359 --> 01:10:47.680
<v Speaker 6>But the one thing that I think that doesn't ever

1175
01:10:47.800 --> 01:10:51.520
<v Speaker 6>get I guess talked about enough, but you mentioned it

1176
01:10:52.000 --> 01:10:57.800
<v Speaker 6>was what was Jacqueline thinking at this time, seeing what's happening.

1177
01:10:58.239 --> 01:11:03.039
<v Speaker 6>She was humiliated, She had to have been humiliated, if

1178
01:11:03.079 --> 01:11:06.199
<v Speaker 6>not Robert F. Kennedy's wife had to have been humiliated,

1179
01:11:06.520 --> 01:11:09.600
<v Speaker 6>and for Maryland to be found that way would have

1180
01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:15.560
<v Speaker 6>been humiliating for Marylyn. And so to me, it's all worned.

1181
01:11:15.960 --> 01:11:18.479
<v Speaker 6>She had the balls to show up because she was scorned.

1182
01:11:18.720 --> 01:11:22.359
<v Speaker 6>She was probably pissed off that whatever had happened had

1183
01:11:22.399 --> 01:11:24.840
<v Speaker 6>happened and she was going to make a scene, and

1184
01:11:24.920 --> 01:11:28.920
<v Speaker 6>a scene she did make. But then in reverse, I

1185
01:11:28.960 --> 01:11:32.720
<v Speaker 6>think that somebody had, you know, took her out in

1186
01:11:32.840 --> 01:11:34.199
<v Speaker 6>the worst way possible.

1187
01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:38.960
<v Speaker 5>I think so too, And that's why I can never

1188
01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:42.359
<v Speaker 5>say for sure who I think is responsible for it,

1189
01:11:42.399 --> 01:11:45.840
<v Speaker 5>Because if we can all agree in this podcast that

1190
01:11:46.199 --> 01:11:49.399
<v Speaker 5>it was a homicide, then the only thing left to

1191
01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:55.319
<v Speaker 5>do after that is to look at your suspect list.

1192
01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.560
<v Speaker 5>I think Jackie is definitely on there. I think that

1193
01:11:58.880 --> 01:12:01.039
<v Speaker 5>all the Kennedys are deaf, definitely on there. I think

1194
01:12:01.039 --> 01:12:03.640
<v Speaker 5>the Mafia is definitely on there. I think, you know,

1195
01:12:03.800 --> 01:12:08.880
<v Speaker 5>the CIA is definitely on there. And what reeks to

1196
01:12:09.000 --> 01:12:12.039
<v Speaker 5>me of of this being almost kind of methodical and

1197
01:12:12.119 --> 01:12:18.000
<v Speaker 5>planned out is like original autopsy report, missing original police report,

1198
01:12:18.159 --> 01:12:25.960
<v Speaker 5>missing official medical reports, missing internal organs, missing journals broken

1199
01:12:26.000 --> 01:12:30.439
<v Speaker 5>into and stolen, all the tapped phone calls, all those

1200
01:12:30.640 --> 01:12:34.840
<v Speaker 5>are recorded but missing. I mean, this is coming from

1201
01:12:35.119 --> 01:12:38.720
<v Speaker 5>from on high somewhere. And could it have been the Kennedy's.

1202
01:12:39.279 --> 01:12:42.239
<v Speaker 5>Uh maybe Jackie was just like one flew over the

1203
01:12:42.239 --> 01:12:44.760
<v Speaker 5>cuckoo's nest after that and was like, you gotta do

1204
01:12:44.840 --> 01:12:48.319
<v Speaker 5>fucking something or I'm gonna start talking. I don't know,

1205
01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:51.960
<v Speaker 5>but I mean it's just.

1206
01:12:52.399 --> 01:12:57.359
<v Speaker 6>To me, wasn't that So My whole thing with that

1207
01:12:57.680 --> 01:13:04.279
<v Speaker 6>is that the fact that Jackie knew of her husband

1208
01:13:04.319 --> 01:13:07.840
<v Speaker 6>being you know, sexually active in the community. Is that,

1209
01:13:08.319 --> 01:13:10.039
<v Speaker 6>and she really didn't have a problem with it, And

1210
01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:12.600
<v Speaker 6>at that point in time, most women kind of turned

1211
01:13:12.680 --> 01:13:16.439
<v Speaker 6>a blind eye, but to be that public was interesting,

1212
01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:19.199
<v Speaker 6>and she did have the ear of Lyndon B.

1213
01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:19.720
<v Speaker 3>Johnson.

1214
01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:20.439
<v Speaker 5>Lyndon B.

1215
01:13:20.520 --> 01:13:24.199
<v Speaker 6>Johnson was very Jacqueline Kennedy, and I believe so was

1216
01:13:24.239 --> 01:13:27.880
<v Speaker 6>some other higher ups, and so I wonder if maybe

1217
01:13:27.920 --> 01:13:31.079
<v Speaker 6>it was conveniently placed that way. I mean, I'm not

1218
01:13:31.119 --> 01:13:33.720
<v Speaker 6>trying to peg Jackie as the person, but she knew

1219
01:13:33.720 --> 01:13:38.800
<v Speaker 6>of the affairs that she very was well aware of it,

1220
01:13:39.119 --> 01:13:43.119
<v Speaker 6>but not not to be embarrassed in front of everyone

1221
01:13:43.159 --> 01:13:44.159
<v Speaker 6>at the party like that.

1222
01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:45.880
<v Speaker 5>I don't see it going.

1223
01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Well.

1224
01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:51.640
<v Speaker 4>There's the angle too, of trying to frame the Kennedy's

1225
01:13:51.680 --> 01:13:54.479
<v Speaker 4>as being responsible for her death, because you know, she's

1226
01:13:54.479 --> 01:13:57.399
<v Speaker 4>got this nuts walled up in her bed and then

1227
01:13:57.520 --> 01:14:00.560
<v Speaker 4>you know, none of this stuff makes sense, And maybe

1228
01:14:00.600 --> 01:14:04.239
<v Speaker 4>they ordered her to show up at the birthday party

1229
01:14:04.600 --> 01:14:07.319
<v Speaker 4>wearing that dress to make it really look like maybe

1230
01:14:07.319 --> 01:14:10.800
<v Speaker 4>somebody within the Kennedy camp decided to take action. And

1231
01:14:10.880 --> 01:14:13.119
<v Speaker 4>I think that that's a little bit more plausible. But

1232
01:14:13.159 --> 01:14:17.479
<v Speaker 4>at the same time, you know, you basically asked for it.

1233
01:14:17.680 --> 01:14:19.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, the people who are ordering you around going

1234
01:14:19.720 --> 01:14:23.439
<v Speaker 4>to these parties and screwing up people's lives, is that's

1235
01:14:23.479 --> 01:14:25.840
<v Speaker 4>gonna screw up your life too. You know, there's really

1236
01:14:25.840 --> 01:14:28.279
<v Speaker 4>nothing you can get away with that you won't pay for.

1237
01:14:29.399 --> 01:14:31.520
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and I think, you know, if we're even going

1238
01:14:31.560 --> 01:14:34.560
<v Speaker 5>to talk about Lyndon Johnson and like what ended up

1239
01:14:34.600 --> 01:14:39.880
<v Speaker 5>having it happening to JFK, that it was JFK's assassination

1240
01:14:40.399 --> 01:14:45.359
<v Speaker 5>did not There was not a long period of time

1241
01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:49.880
<v Speaker 5>in between Marylyn and JFK. So the only problem I

1242
01:14:49.960 --> 01:14:53.159
<v Speaker 5>have with the Kennedy theory that they wanted him dead too,

1243
01:14:54.159 --> 01:15:03.159
<v Speaker 5>and JFK did die after Marylyn and he you know,

1244
01:15:03.279 --> 01:15:05.880
<v Speaker 5>Lyndon Johnson, if we want to go with he could

1245
01:15:05.920 --> 01:15:08.319
<v Speaker 5>have had to play a part in Maryland and he

1246
01:15:08.439 --> 01:15:11.279
<v Speaker 5>definitely played a part in what happened with JFK. He's

1247
01:15:11.319 --> 01:15:15.399
<v Speaker 5>a notorious murderer. I've actually covered him in a separate episode.

1248
01:15:15.479 --> 01:15:19.119
<v Speaker 5>He hired hitman. One of them's name was Mac something

1249
01:15:19.199 --> 01:15:22.079
<v Speaker 5>or other. I can't remember his last name, but he

1250
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:26.439
<v Speaker 5>hired this guy. Lyndon B. Johnson hired this hit man.

1251
01:15:26.560 --> 01:15:30.640
<v Speaker 5>His name was Mac Wallace. I believe to go take

1252
01:15:30.720 --> 01:15:34.159
<v Speaker 5>out this guy who had uncovered a bunch of money

1253
01:15:34.239 --> 01:15:38.560
<v Speaker 5>laundering stuff with Lyndon Johnson. And they ruled this guy's

1254
01:15:38.600 --> 01:15:43.439
<v Speaker 5>death a suicide even though he had supposedly blasted himself

1255
01:15:43.439 --> 01:15:47.000
<v Speaker 5>in the chest five times with a shotgun and then

1256
01:15:47.199 --> 01:15:51.520
<v Speaker 5>gave him put cyanide on a washrag and covered his

1257
01:15:51.520 --> 01:15:54.880
<v Speaker 5>face with it. They still rolled it a suicide, Like

1258
01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:58.279
<v Speaker 5>how on the fucking planet do you load a shotgun

1259
01:15:58.560 --> 01:16:02.479
<v Speaker 5>and blast your own chest out five times and then

1260
01:16:02.560 --> 01:16:05.920
<v Speaker 5>go the extra mile of cyanide poisoning and they still

1261
01:16:06.039 --> 01:16:09.640
<v Speaker 5>ruled it a suicide. That's Lyndon B. Johnson. Everyone that

1262
01:16:09.800 --> 01:16:14.680
<v Speaker 5>is Lyndon B. Johnson. So, and his wife's a fucking asshole.

1263
01:16:14.960 --> 01:16:18.159
<v Speaker 5>She was fucking taking pictures with john Wayne Gacy and shit.

1264
01:16:19.079 --> 01:16:23.760
<v Speaker 5>So I mean they are all corrupt, ass fucking holes,

1265
01:16:24.119 --> 01:16:27.199
<v Speaker 5>ass fucking holes. And that's why I just you know,

1266
01:16:27.359 --> 01:16:30.279
<v Speaker 5>looking at Marylyn Stath or any of this shit. And

1267
01:16:30.520 --> 01:16:34.359
<v Speaker 5>I do mention the connection with eyes Wide shut because

1268
01:16:34.439 --> 01:16:38.960
<v Speaker 5>I think that Stanley puts clues about shit into all

1269
01:16:39.000 --> 01:16:39.800
<v Speaker 5>of his movies.

1270
01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:42.800
<v Speaker 6>I was gonna I look that up because you were

1271
01:16:42.840 --> 01:16:47.760
<v Speaker 6>talking about how there was that barbie that Helena was

1272
01:16:48.520 --> 01:16:53.600
<v Speaker 6>think so. The barbie itself was the box sugarplum hairy

1273
01:16:53.880 --> 01:16:59.640
<v Speaker 6>Barbie doll, and it was the opening scene of The Nutcracker.

1274
01:17:00.359 --> 01:17:04.239
<v Speaker 6>And the the dress that the barbie doll was wearing

1275
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:08.199
<v Speaker 6>was a nod to the same dress that Marilyn Monroe

1276
01:17:08.359 --> 01:17:11.439
<v Speaker 6>and Jane Russell wore, or I'm sorry, the one that

1277
01:17:11.600 --> 01:17:14.760
<v Speaker 6>Marilyn Monroe wore in Gentlemen Prefer Blondes.

1278
01:17:15.319 --> 01:17:19.720
<v Speaker 5>Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, That's what it was. So it was

1279
01:17:19.760 --> 01:17:24.119
<v Speaker 5>a nod to Marilyn Monroe and the just think of

1280
01:17:24.199 --> 01:17:29.079
<v Speaker 5>the title Gentlemen Prefer Blondes. And just like I said

1281
01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:31.840
<v Speaker 5>at the beginning of this fucking episode, I think the

1282
01:17:31.880 --> 01:17:37.039
<v Speaker 5>bleached hair is a uh it's like a dog collar

1283
01:17:37.239 --> 01:17:41.279
<v Speaker 5>that you wear, and it signals that this person it

1284
01:17:41.359 --> 01:17:44.319
<v Speaker 5>has an altar or they're in some type of a program.

1285
01:17:44.920 --> 01:17:50.199
<v Speaker 5>And what really bothers me is that Maryland psychiatrist, his

1286
01:17:50.319 --> 01:17:55.199
<v Speaker 5>name was doctor Greenson, I remember, okay, and this doctor

1287
01:17:55.319 --> 01:18:01.199
<v Speaker 5>Greenson's family went on the Netflix Dock documentary and said,

1288
01:18:01.239 --> 01:18:05.439
<v Speaker 5>my father loved his patience. He would never cover anything

1289
01:18:05.520 --> 01:18:08.279
<v Speaker 5>up like this, he would never be involved in something

1290
01:18:08.399 --> 01:18:10.880
<v Speaker 5>like this. And it's like, listen, I don't give a

1291
01:18:10.920 --> 01:18:14.640
<v Speaker 5>fuck what doctor green Bean has to fucking say about

1292
01:18:14.680 --> 01:18:17.560
<v Speaker 5>this shit, because he's one hundred per All you have

1293
01:18:17.600 --> 01:18:20.680
<v Speaker 5>to do is flash a dollar amount in front of someone,

1294
01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:24.319
<v Speaker 5>and everybody has a price tag. I don't care how

1295
01:18:24.399 --> 01:18:27.119
<v Speaker 5>great your conscience is and how much you love your

1296
01:18:27.159 --> 01:18:30.920
<v Speaker 5>patience and shit like that. If you were talking about

1297
01:18:30.960 --> 01:18:35.279
<v Speaker 5>Marilyn Monroe, here, what dollars signed do I have to

1298
01:18:35.279 --> 01:18:37.720
<v Speaker 5>flash in front of you to make you go along

1299
01:18:37.800 --> 01:18:42.560
<v Speaker 5>with this story? Because thank you, By the way, I

1300
01:18:42.600 --> 01:18:45.960
<v Speaker 5>think this shit is important, and if I can get

1301
01:18:45.960 --> 01:18:49.079
<v Speaker 5>people on board with this, it's a lot easier when

1302
01:18:49.119 --> 01:18:52.600
<v Speaker 5>we're talking about things that continue to happen. This is

1303
01:18:52.760 --> 01:18:56.720
<v Speaker 5>all staged. It's all a fucking setup, and it's some

1304
01:18:56.840 --> 01:18:59.680
<v Speaker 5>of it is sloppy, and they don't even try very hard.

1305
01:18:59.720 --> 01:19:02.199
<v Speaker 5>And it took me five minutes in a Google search

1306
01:19:02.279 --> 01:19:04.520
<v Speaker 5>to find some of this stuff. But you're never going

1307
01:19:04.600 --> 01:19:08.199
<v Speaker 5>to get that in a Netflix or HBO documentary. You

1308
01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:11.880
<v Speaker 5>know you're never gonna get this shit in a mainstream documentary.

1309
01:19:12.560 --> 01:19:15.319
<v Speaker 4>Right when you put it in context with things like

1310
01:19:15.319 --> 01:19:18.479
<v Speaker 4>the Epstein happening, it starts to make sense why they

1311
01:19:18.479 --> 01:19:21.199
<v Speaker 4>would want her to show up at this guy's birthday party,

1312
01:19:21.239 --> 01:19:24.159
<v Speaker 4>because now you've got compromant on him in front of

1313
01:19:24.199 --> 01:19:27.720
<v Speaker 4>the entire world, saying, look, they're together right here at

1314
01:19:27.720 --> 01:19:30.600
<v Speaker 4>his birthday party and everything. So you know, that could

1315
01:19:30.600 --> 01:19:33.720
<v Speaker 4>be the intimidation tactic that they were using against JFK

1316
01:19:34.199 --> 01:19:36.279
<v Speaker 4>before they went the extra mile and put the extra

1317
01:19:36.319 --> 01:19:39.920
<v Speaker 4>hole in his head, you know. So that's you know,

1318
01:19:40.319 --> 01:19:42.279
<v Speaker 4>that's that's kind of the thing. You have to use

1319
01:19:42.319 --> 01:19:45.680
<v Speaker 4>these people around the guys for methods of control. And

1320
01:19:45.760 --> 01:19:48.199
<v Speaker 4>maybe she didn't want to play the game anymore and

1321
01:19:48.239 --> 01:19:50.119
<v Speaker 4>that was the problem, and that's why they had to

1322
01:19:50.119 --> 01:19:52.840
<v Speaker 4>take her out, is because you can't have people not

1323
01:19:52.880 --> 01:19:55.880
<v Speaker 4>want to play your game if your game involves, you know,

1324
01:19:56.079 --> 01:19:57.439
<v Speaker 4>the ruler of the free world.

1325
01:19:58.760 --> 01:20:01.880
<v Speaker 5>Well, and I also think, like Marilyn, it's like I

1326
01:20:01.960 --> 01:20:04.520
<v Speaker 5>kind of said earlier, she was very full of herself,

1327
01:20:05.039 --> 01:20:07.840
<v Speaker 5>and I think she was overly confident that, oh, well,

1328
01:20:07.880 --> 01:20:10.680
<v Speaker 5>you can't kill me. I'm Marilyn Monroe. And I think

1329
01:20:10.720 --> 01:20:14.359
<v Speaker 5>she did start getting a little obvious there towards the end,

1330
01:20:14.479 --> 01:20:18.439
<v Speaker 5>with her infatuation with the Kennedys, with her showing up

1331
01:20:18.479 --> 01:20:22.359
<v Speaker 5>at the birthday party, it was almost like she was flaunting,

1332
01:20:22.880 --> 01:20:26.359
<v Speaker 5>look what I can get away with. And you know,

1333
01:20:26.439 --> 01:20:29.199
<v Speaker 5>as the saying goes, she fucked around and found out

1334
01:20:29.880 --> 01:20:34.319
<v Speaker 5>which she could get away with. And you know, she

1335
01:20:34.600 --> 01:20:39.520
<v Speaker 5>had relationships with known mobsters. She had relationships with Sam

1336
01:20:39.600 --> 01:20:44.159
<v Speaker 5>g and Conna, she had relationships with Frank Sinatra. She

1337
01:20:44.199 --> 01:20:49.279
<v Speaker 5>even had a relationship with this Soviet spy named Frederick Field.

1338
01:20:49.960 --> 01:20:56.720
<v Speaker 5>So there are obvious and clearly visible sexual relationships with

1339
01:20:56.760 --> 01:21:00.399
<v Speaker 5>some of the top mob guys, the Kennedys. I mean,

1340
01:21:00.439 --> 01:21:05.279
<v Speaker 5>we're talking about this wasn't just your average actress who

1341
01:21:05.399 --> 01:21:09.399
<v Speaker 5>had like an A list friends group. We're talking high

1342
01:21:09.479 --> 01:21:14.600
<v Speaker 5>level military, high level political spheres, and Maryland's right in

1343
01:21:14.640 --> 01:21:17.079
<v Speaker 5>the middle of all of it. And she got a

1344
01:21:17.119 --> 01:21:20.800
<v Speaker 5>little bit brazen, I think, and they just you know,

1345
01:21:20.960 --> 01:21:23.960
<v Speaker 5>had to do something with her. And I think that

1346
01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:28.079
<v Speaker 5>the way that they displayed her body was completely humiliating.

1347
01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:32.239
<v Speaker 5>I think that was on purpose as fuck. And she'll

1348
01:21:32.279 --> 01:21:37.880
<v Speaker 5>forever be known as this depressed woman who killed herself

1349
01:21:37.920 --> 01:21:39.399
<v Speaker 5>and took a bunch of pills and they found her

1350
01:21:39.439 --> 01:21:44.359
<v Speaker 5>naked body in her bedroom. But if you look even

1351
01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:47.840
<v Speaker 5>to this day, there are so many cosmetic lines that

1352
01:21:47.920 --> 01:21:52.880
<v Speaker 5>are dedicated to Marylyn. People decorate their houses with pictures

1353
01:21:52.920 --> 01:21:59.159
<v Speaker 5>of Maryland. I mean, if you go to any fucking target, Walmart, wherever,

1354
01:21:59.239 --> 01:22:02.560
<v Speaker 5>there's always some type of Marilyn esque thing that you

1355
01:22:02.640 --> 01:22:05.680
<v Speaker 5>can do by to hang up in your house. And

1356
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:10.760
<v Speaker 5>it's like, would she be as famous as she is

1357
01:22:10.920 --> 01:22:13.439
<v Speaker 5>if this is if she wouldn't have died in this way,

1358
01:22:13.479 --> 01:22:17.760
<v Speaker 5>because you know, sometimes death can make you infamous. Like

1359
01:22:18.239 --> 01:22:20.880
<v Speaker 5>there were a lot of actresses that were just as

1360
01:22:20.920 --> 01:22:23.319
<v Speaker 5>big as Marylyn around the time that she was big,

1361
01:22:23.520 --> 01:22:26.840
<v Speaker 5>but they didn't get a horrible humiliation ritual death and

1362
01:22:26.920 --> 01:22:31.600
<v Speaker 5>nobody knows about their names anymore. So is Marilyn. It's

1363
01:22:31.640 --> 01:22:35.680
<v Speaker 5>almost like I have to lean towards the spirituality aspect

1364
01:22:35.720 --> 01:22:39.279
<v Speaker 5>of this and say, is this another type of twenty

1365
01:22:39.359 --> 01:22:43.359
<v Speaker 5>seven club Faustian bargain? You want to be famous, will

1366
01:22:43.359 --> 01:22:46.239
<v Speaker 5>make you famous, Everyone will know you for the rest

1367
01:22:46.319 --> 01:22:50.479
<v Speaker 5>of forever and throughout time and eternity. And maybe she

1368
01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:53.600
<v Speaker 5>didn't know what that meant when she signed up for that,

1369
01:22:54.359 --> 01:22:58.720
<v Speaker 5>but I don't know. I mean, I find there are

1370
01:22:58.760 --> 01:23:03.359
<v Speaker 5>so many layers to this and she could easily be

1371
01:23:03.640 --> 01:23:07.880
<v Speaker 5>one of those Faustian bargains that you know, she became

1372
01:23:07.960 --> 01:23:10.319
<v Speaker 5>famous in death because of her death.

1373
01:23:13.520 --> 01:23:16.560
<v Speaker 4>Well, I wanted to bring up the angle of pop art.

1374
01:23:17.439 --> 01:23:20.920
<v Speaker 4>So one of the most famous portraits of Maryland was

1375
01:23:21.000 --> 01:23:26.399
<v Speaker 4>done by the pop artists. Let me see here everybody

1376
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:29.520
<v Speaker 4>knows his name I forgot, but you've got the different

1377
01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:33.039
<v Speaker 4>panels showing the different colors on Marylynd's face that were,

1378
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:36.680
<v Speaker 4>you know, originally photographs that they colored in, and it

1379
01:23:36.720 --> 01:23:40.119
<v Speaker 4>was seen as like something so iconic from that period

1380
01:23:40.239 --> 01:23:42.960
<v Speaker 4>because of the fact that you know, this is like

1381
01:23:44.079 --> 01:23:46.800
<v Speaker 4>who all the women aspire to be and all the

1382
01:23:46.840 --> 01:23:51.319
<v Speaker 4>men aspire to be with. And there's something really sort

1383
01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:54.520
<v Speaker 4>of dangerous when you have that type of mainstreaming of

1384
01:23:54.560 --> 01:23:58.319
<v Speaker 4>a certain person as the face of all of that culture.

1385
01:23:58.319 --> 01:24:00.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean, especially when you've got you know, people like

1386
01:24:01.600 --> 01:24:04.600
<v Speaker 4>Taylor Swift today sort of taking on that role of

1387
01:24:04.640 --> 01:24:08.760
<v Speaker 4>being like this, you know, blonde pop icon and.

1388
01:24:08.880 --> 01:24:12.159
<v Speaker 5>Really Madonna too, the blonde herself.

1389
01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:17.560
<v Speaker 4>Right, the less details and information you get about these faces,

1390
01:24:17.920 --> 01:24:21.000
<v Speaker 4>you know, just faces with different colors on them, faces

1391
01:24:21.039 --> 01:24:25.039
<v Speaker 4>staring back at you, faces having some sort of value

1392
01:24:25.079 --> 01:24:28.119
<v Speaker 4>beyond what you see. Keeping them on the shallow end

1393
01:24:28.359 --> 01:24:31.600
<v Speaker 4>is one of the most important tasks for any handler

1394
01:24:31.680 --> 01:24:34.600
<v Speaker 4>or publicist for these people, because as soon as they

1395
01:24:34.600 --> 01:24:36.960
<v Speaker 4>start getting into deeper waters, that's when you start to

1396
01:24:36.960 --> 01:24:39.039
<v Speaker 4>see the problems start to emerge because we don't have

1397
01:24:39.079 --> 01:24:42.520
<v Speaker 4>a lot of consistency when it comes between our pop

1398
01:24:42.560 --> 01:24:46.159
<v Speaker 4>culture and our values and ideals. There's not a lot

1399
01:24:46.199 --> 01:24:50.079
<v Speaker 4>of crossover there. So I think for all of the

1400
01:24:50.600 --> 01:24:54.119
<v Speaker 4>Satanism that's coming out around these pop stars now, I

1401
01:24:54.159 --> 01:24:58.199
<v Speaker 4>think that's just sort of like a resurgence of keeping

1402
01:24:58.239 --> 01:25:00.680
<v Speaker 4>people on the surface, because really, who wants to hang

1403
01:25:00.680 --> 01:25:03.039
<v Speaker 4>out around satanist So I've never really met anybody who

1404
01:25:03.079 --> 01:25:06.359
<v Speaker 4>wants to be close to people who openly profess their

1405
01:25:06.399 --> 01:25:08.840
<v Speaker 4>love for it, you know, evil, you know.

1406
01:25:08.880 --> 01:25:11.920
<v Speaker 5>Right well, and you know it's It's like, I think

1407
01:25:12.000 --> 01:25:16.880
<v Speaker 5>Marilyn is an archetype that they keep recreating through different people.

1408
01:25:17.840 --> 01:25:21.600
<v Speaker 5>And I think it's a it's a perpetual pattern. Like

1409
01:25:21.680 --> 01:25:25.119
<v Speaker 5>you said, it's Marilyn and then it's you know whoever else,

1410
01:25:25.159 --> 01:25:29.199
<v Speaker 5>Then it's Madonna, then it's Britney, then it's Taylor, then

1411
01:25:29.199 --> 01:25:32.800
<v Speaker 5>it's and it's always like a Lady Gaga, And it's

1412
01:25:32.800 --> 01:25:38.680
<v Speaker 5>like an archetype of this person, and you know, ritualistically speaking,

1413
01:25:38.800 --> 01:25:41.279
<v Speaker 5>and we could get into pop culture with this too.

1414
01:25:41.880 --> 01:25:45.800
<v Speaker 5>Elton John wrote a song about Marilyn Candle in the

1415
01:25:45.840 --> 01:25:50.159
<v Speaker 5>wind right. Everybody loves this song, but he changed the

1416
01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:55.479
<v Speaker 5>words and he performed it at Princess Diana's funeral, and

1417
01:25:55.560 --> 01:26:00.520
<v Speaker 5>she was also killed in August, very ritualistically, so we

1418
01:26:00.640 --> 01:26:06.680
<v Speaker 5>have another August connection and Elton John immortalizing both of

1419
01:26:06.720 --> 01:26:09.760
<v Speaker 5>them with the same song, just different lyrics.

1420
01:26:10.520 --> 01:26:15.239
<v Speaker 6>And when Elton John did that, I thought that was

1421
01:26:15.279 --> 01:26:19.520
<v Speaker 6>a nod to tell everyone that Marilyn was murdered just.

1422
01:26:19.600 --> 01:26:22.560
<v Speaker 5>And yeah, and I think a program multiple as well.

1423
01:26:22.920 --> 01:26:25.520
<v Speaker 5>I think that he knew a bunch of shit that

1424
01:26:25.600 --> 01:26:28.319
<v Speaker 5>he wasn't really going to ever let up on and

1425
01:26:29.880 --> 01:26:32.359
<v Speaker 5>you know, to go along with the eights as well.

1426
01:26:32.399 --> 01:26:36.760
<v Speaker 5>She was murdered on eight for sixty two and then

1427
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:40.439
<v Speaker 5>she was her funeral was eight eight sixty two, so

1428
01:26:40.520 --> 01:26:43.680
<v Speaker 5>they completed the ritual by burying her on eight eight eight.

1429
01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:48.079
<v Speaker 5>And you know, it's like I said, Diana died in

1430
01:26:48.119 --> 01:26:53.279
<v Speaker 5>August two in the nineties. There's just you know, her

1431
01:26:53.319 --> 01:26:56.680
<v Speaker 5>fucking body went missing for ten hours the day of

1432
01:26:56.680 --> 01:27:03.399
<v Speaker 5>the funeral. Why why? I just you know, she lives.

1433
01:27:03.640 --> 01:27:07.720
<v Speaker 5>She lives in Laurel Canyon on Helen A Drive. And

1434
01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:11.159
<v Speaker 5>there's just a lot of stuff with this that if

1435
01:27:11.199 --> 01:27:14.199
<v Speaker 5>you look at it, from a conspiratorial angle, there's a

1436
01:27:14.199 --> 01:27:16.880
<v Speaker 5>ton of information you can gather if you look at

1437
01:27:16.920 --> 01:27:20.239
<v Speaker 5>it just backs you'res. From the forensic angle, there's a

1438
01:27:20.279 --> 01:27:22.800
<v Speaker 5>ton of information you can gather, and then you mix

1439
01:27:22.840 --> 01:27:25.680
<v Speaker 5>those two things together, and to me, this is one

1440
01:27:25.720 --> 01:27:28.920
<v Speaker 5>of the interesting, most interesting cases of all time that

1441
01:27:28.960 --> 01:27:32.039
<v Speaker 5>I feel like goes completely unnoticed because you watch a

1442
01:27:32.079 --> 01:27:35.119
<v Speaker 5>Netflix documentary and you think you fucking know everything about it.

1443
01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:39.800
<v Speaker 5>And I don't think it's a coincidence that she ushered

1444
01:27:39.800 --> 01:27:44.279
<v Speaker 5>in the blood diamonds. You know, diamonds are a girl's

1445
01:27:44.359 --> 01:27:52.039
<v Speaker 5>best friend, or diamonds are forever whatever the fuck? She said. Yeah, right, well,

1446
01:27:52.119 --> 01:27:54.000
<v Speaker 5>I mean literally, they.

1447
01:27:53.880 --> 01:27:56.680
<v Speaker 4>Don't have diamonds in Israel, but there Israel's number one

1448
01:27:56.720 --> 01:27:57.319
<v Speaker 4>expert is.

1449
01:27:57.239 --> 01:27:59.479
<v Speaker 5>The diamonds thanks to Marilyn.

1450
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:00.479
<v Speaker 2>Right right.

1451
01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:05.880
<v Speaker 5>But you know, there are so many things too that

1452
01:28:06.039 --> 01:28:09.439
<v Speaker 5>I don't even know if you guys want to get into.

1453
01:28:09.640 --> 01:28:15.560
<v Speaker 5>But there were conversations that were taped between Marilyn and

1454
01:28:15.640 --> 01:28:21.760
<v Speaker 5>her psychiatrists that later went missing, but they were listened

1455
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:26.079
<v Speaker 5>to by police officers who later kind of gave their

1456
01:28:26.119 --> 01:28:30.880
<v Speaker 5>opinion on them. And in her psychiatrist's sessions, she would

1457
01:28:30.880 --> 01:28:35.399
<v Speaker 5>talk about her relationships with the Kennedys, and she would

1458
01:28:35.439 --> 01:28:40.520
<v Speaker 5>also talk about how basically she thought she was too

1459
01:28:40.560 --> 01:28:43.439
<v Speaker 5>smart for anything to ever happen to her, that she

1460
01:28:43.560 --> 01:28:46.720
<v Speaker 5>was very much so looking forward to her future that

1461
01:28:46.920 --> 01:28:49.800
<v Speaker 5>she thought she had everything going for her. She had

1462
01:28:49.840 --> 01:28:53.159
<v Speaker 5>a bunch of projects she was working on, and her

1463
01:28:53.239 --> 01:28:56.800
<v Speaker 5>psychiatrists wrote in the notes that it would be highly

1464
01:28:56.840 --> 01:29:02.600
<v Speaker 5>unlikely for someone in Marylyn's mental state to commit suicide

1465
01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:07.800
<v Speaker 5>because she didn't have any of the like red flags

1466
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:10.199
<v Speaker 5>that would say this person is depressed and wants to

1467
01:29:10.239 --> 01:29:13.079
<v Speaker 5>commit suicide. It was the exact opposite. Actually, she was

1468
01:29:13.079 --> 01:29:16.800
<v Speaker 5>a very confident person and the only prescription that she

1469
01:29:17.000 --> 01:29:19.520
<v Speaker 5>was on was some sleeping pills that she was actually

1470
01:29:19.520 --> 01:29:23.399
<v Speaker 5>getting weaned off of. So for her to have out

1471
01:29:23.399 --> 01:29:27.640
<v Speaker 5>of nowhere had this type of an overdose with like

1472
01:29:27.680 --> 01:29:30.960
<v Speaker 5>I said, the amount that was found in her bloodstream

1473
01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:33.760
<v Speaker 5>didn't even match the prescription that she had access to.

1474
01:29:34.439 --> 01:29:37.760
<v Speaker 5>It just you know, it's not you're not gonna sell

1475
01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:40.359
<v Speaker 5>it to me that this was a sedative drug overdose.

1476
01:29:40.399 --> 01:29:42.079
<v Speaker 5>You're not gonna sell it to me.

1477
01:29:43.520 --> 01:29:46.439
<v Speaker 4>Well, I think the Mob angle is very important, especially

1478
01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:50.800
<v Speaker 4>considering how Mob connected. All the movie studios were, all

1479
01:29:50.880 --> 01:29:54.680
<v Speaker 4>the recording industry. Everything else out in LA at that

1480
01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:58.920
<v Speaker 4>time was basically controlled by the mob. So it's generally

1481
01:29:58.960 --> 01:30:01.520
<v Speaker 4>been that way. Is that the entertainment industry is kind

1482
01:30:01.560 --> 01:30:04.720
<v Speaker 4>of like the slush fund for mobsters because they need

1483
01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:07.720
<v Speaker 4>to wash a lot of money, and a good way

1484
01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:10.359
<v Speaker 4>to do that is through the movie industry because they

1485
01:30:10.399 --> 01:30:14.199
<v Speaker 4>need a massive amount of funding, and whether the movie

1486
01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.479
<v Speaker 4>windsor loses, you're still going to wash that money in

1487
01:30:17.640 --> 01:30:21.880
<v Speaker 4>the in the public, you know, uh, viewing of these movies.

1488
01:30:21.960 --> 01:30:25.119
<v Speaker 4>So having that is sort of a basis for money

1489
01:30:25.159 --> 01:30:28.399
<v Speaker 4>laundering is very important when it comes to figures like

1490
01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:33.159
<v Speaker 4>Marilyn Monroe and you know icons or you know, archetypes

1491
01:30:33.279 --> 01:30:37.600
<v Speaker 4>like her. Ever since, because we are still being influenced

1492
01:30:37.600 --> 01:30:40.960
<v Speaker 4>by the mob, I think it's changed focus or changed

1493
01:30:40.960 --> 01:30:42.760
<v Speaker 4>form a lot, and now we're looking at the mob

1494
01:30:42.800 --> 01:30:45.600
<v Speaker 4>being all these NGOs, you know, And if you think

1495
01:30:45.640 --> 01:30:48.119
<v Speaker 4>about it, the Mob's always sort of been an ngo.

1496
01:30:48.239 --> 01:30:50.279
<v Speaker 4>You You've always got the dark side of the state

1497
01:30:50.359 --> 01:30:54.319
<v Speaker 4>that that you know, engages in human trafficking, drug trafficking,

1498
01:30:54.439 --> 01:30:57.359
<v Speaker 4>and you know, all the rest of that stuff. But

1499
01:30:58.079 --> 01:31:00.079
<v Speaker 4>the only way to control it is to be a

1500
01:31:00.199 --> 01:31:03.119
<v Speaker 4>part of it. And so everyone has done that, and

1501
01:31:03.159 --> 01:31:07.399
<v Speaker 4>now we're seeing all these non governmental organizations smuggling people

1502
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:10.600
<v Speaker 4>across the border. That's just the same old mob tactics.

1503
01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:13.560
<v Speaker 4>They're just figuring out different ways to launder money.

1504
01:31:14.720 --> 01:31:20.159
<v Speaker 5>One hundred and you know, I do think that they

1505
01:31:20.239 --> 01:31:25.119
<v Speaker 5>continue to do this type of shit with modern day celebrities.

1506
01:31:25.279 --> 01:31:27.800
<v Speaker 5>I don't think that it's changed at all. I think

1507
01:31:27.840 --> 01:31:32.279
<v Speaker 5>they might be a little bit more secretive about it.

1508
01:31:32.800 --> 01:31:35.399
<v Speaker 5>But I think a lot of like I said in

1509
01:31:35.439 --> 01:31:38.720
<v Speaker 5>the Program to Kill episodes, I think a lot of

1510
01:31:38.800 --> 01:31:45.319
<v Speaker 5>serial killers, celebrities, politicians. I think they're all actors, and

1511
01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:49.880
<v Speaker 5>they're all playing multiple roles, and I think they're interchangeable

1512
01:31:49.960 --> 01:31:55.399
<v Speaker 5>even sometimes. And Marilynd's an actress, she's playing multiple roles.

1513
01:31:55.640 --> 01:31:58.399
<v Speaker 5>I think that, you know, a lot of the shit

1514
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:02.039
<v Speaker 5>that we see, even with Paulaitians, they're all fucking actors.

1515
01:32:02.880 --> 01:32:08.119
<v Speaker 5>And I think it starts with them as as children

1516
01:32:08.720 --> 01:32:10.479
<v Speaker 5>if they can get them that young. Because it's like

1517
01:32:10.479 --> 01:32:13.880
<v Speaker 5>I said, they found Marylyn in an orphanage and she's

1518
01:32:13.920 --> 01:32:18.399
<v Speaker 5>probably an SRA times ten. You know, mom wasn't looking

1519
01:32:18.439 --> 01:32:21.439
<v Speaker 5>out for her, Dad was out of the picture, and

1520
01:32:21.560 --> 01:32:26.319
<v Speaker 5>they just they probably sra this woman into oblivion and

1521
01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:31.039
<v Speaker 5>then they replaced her with the Marilyn Monroe. But I

1522
01:32:31.119 --> 01:32:35.439
<v Speaker 5>also think if we're getting back to pop culture, Marilyn

1523
01:32:35.680 --> 01:32:39.640
<v Speaker 5>Manson said that he got his name, you know, as

1524
01:32:39.720 --> 01:32:43.239
<v Speaker 5>inspiration from Maryland. And look at this fucking guy and

1525
01:32:43.279 --> 01:32:46.680
<v Speaker 5>he's best friends with one of the what, in my opinion,

1526
01:32:46.840 --> 01:32:52.920
<v Speaker 5>CIA serial killers, Damian Eccles, Okay westminsstere type shit. He

1527
01:32:53.000 --> 01:32:57.560
<v Speaker 5>also said they're gonna blame me for Columbine. So I

1528
01:32:57.600 --> 01:33:01.039
<v Speaker 5>don't know, pop culture wise, again, like I said, yeah,

1529
01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:05.239
<v Speaker 5>Marylyn had a shitty fucking innima death, but she is

1530
01:33:06.079 --> 01:33:09.880
<v Speaker 5>literally like an archetype now, she's like a grand high

1531
01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:14.760
<v Speaker 5>priestess that gets worshiped in like many different ways. I mean,

1532
01:33:14.800 --> 01:33:16.600
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what you guys think about that, but

1533
01:33:17.239 --> 01:33:21.279
<v Speaker 5>that's just my opinion. Obviously, what better symbol.

1534
01:33:21.079 --> 01:33:24.159
<v Speaker 4>For population control? You know, once you reach the top,

1535
01:33:24.239 --> 01:33:26.680
<v Speaker 4>it's time to take yourself out. You know that whole

1536
01:33:26.720 --> 01:33:31.199
<v Speaker 4>idea of you know, escaping your problems through you know

1537
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:33.800
<v Speaker 4>the S word. I don't know. We're on YouTube, so

1538
01:33:33.840 --> 01:33:38.119
<v Speaker 4>you gotta be careful. But escaping your problems through that is,

1539
01:33:38.439 --> 01:33:42.399
<v Speaker 4>you know, oftentimes the best way for celebrities and all

1540
01:33:42.439 --> 01:33:47.119
<v Speaker 4>these politicians to you know, clock out and having that

1541
01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:50.119
<v Speaker 4>as your symbol for success or your archetype of success.

1542
01:33:50.319 --> 01:33:53.000
<v Speaker 4>Especially for a lot of young impressionable girls who are

1543
01:33:53.000 --> 01:33:56.279
<v Speaker 4>playing with Barbie dolls that have her face on it,

1544
01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:58.319
<v Speaker 4>It's going to start to take a toll and you're

1545
01:33:58.359 --> 01:34:01.960
<v Speaker 4>going to see a lot of that impacting young people

1546
01:34:02.399 --> 01:34:05.560
<v Speaker 4>in that negative way. And what better example than Marilyn

1547
01:34:05.600 --> 01:34:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Manson who has always been kind of like this poster

1548
01:34:08.520 --> 01:34:14.680
<v Speaker 4>child of you know self self offering uh sort of capitalism.

1549
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:17.119
<v Speaker 4>You know, he's playing off of the insecurities of these

1550
01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:19.520
<v Speaker 4>young kids. He's not giving them a vision of hope.

1551
01:34:19.560 --> 01:34:21.840
<v Speaker 4>He's not giving them a vision, a positive vision of

1552
01:34:21.840 --> 01:34:24.800
<v Speaker 4>the future. I mean, when when's the last time pop

1553
01:34:24.880 --> 01:34:27.479
<v Speaker 4>music has ever given a positive vision of the future.

1554
01:34:27.800 --> 01:34:30.640
<v Speaker 4>I like to look at pop music nowadays and all

1555
01:34:30.680 --> 01:34:33.720
<v Speaker 4>of all of their descriptions of love sound more like

1556
01:34:33.720 --> 01:34:38.960
<v Speaker 4>a mental illness, you know. I mean, yeah, where's the

1557
01:34:39.399 --> 01:34:43.359
<v Speaker 4>where's the positivity anywhere? And they have all the bubblegum

1558
01:34:43.399 --> 01:34:45.560
<v Speaker 4>colors and stuff, but they don't really have any of

1559
01:34:45.560 --> 01:34:48.159
<v Speaker 4>that positivity behind it. And it's it's really hard not

1560
01:34:48.239 --> 01:34:49.880
<v Speaker 4>to see that once you start to listen to it

1561
01:34:49.920 --> 01:34:50.439
<v Speaker 4>a little.

1562
01:34:50.199 --> 01:34:54.840
<v Speaker 5>Bit, especially like with the Gaga, Jesus Christ. She literally

1563
01:34:54.880 --> 01:34:57.880
<v Speaker 5>has a song called Judas and she says she's in

1564
01:34:57.920 --> 01:35:01.119
<v Speaker 5>love with Judas. I don't know why nobody brings that

1565
01:35:01.239 --> 01:35:03.720
<v Speaker 5>song up more often, she literally and then she did

1566
01:35:03.720 --> 01:35:07.479
<v Speaker 5>an interview with it and she's like, I'm struggling within myself,

1567
01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:11.760
<v Speaker 5>like my womininity, like I'm attracted to Judas. I find

1568
01:35:11.800 --> 01:35:15.479
<v Speaker 5>it sexual and you know, it's just weirdness like that.

1569
01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:21.319
<v Speaker 5>And actually Anton Levey has a dedication in his Satanic

1570
01:35:21.359 --> 01:35:29.159
<v Speaker 5>Bible too, Marilyn Monroe, Jane Mansfield and uh, actress by

1571
01:35:29.159 --> 01:35:32.279
<v Speaker 5>the name of Tuesday Weld, which is somebody that I

1572
01:35:32.399 --> 01:35:35.119
<v Speaker 5>talk a lot about with Sean McCann because she's also

1573
01:35:35.159 --> 01:35:42.199
<v Speaker 5>a witch, a known witch and you admitted witch. Yeah,

1574
01:35:42.239 --> 01:35:45.720
<v Speaker 5>so think about those three women that I just mentioned Tuesday.

1575
01:35:46.239 --> 01:35:48.680
<v Speaker 5>Tuesday's got some fucked up shit going on. She's not

1576
01:35:48.760 --> 01:35:52.359
<v Speaker 5>dead though, Jane Mansfield and Maryland look what the fuck

1577
01:35:52.399 --> 01:35:57.079
<v Speaker 5>they got And they're all mentioned in Anton Leavey's Satanic Bible.

1578
01:35:57.600 --> 01:36:01.880
<v Speaker 5>So I mean, you know, I don't know, there's definitely

1579
01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:06.359
<v Speaker 5>something more at play than what meets the eye. That's

1580
01:36:06.399 --> 01:36:09.600
<v Speaker 5>pretty much my entire presentation. And you guys, can you know,

1581
01:36:10.319 --> 01:36:12.560
<v Speaker 5>ask any questions or anything like that. It's a lot

1582
01:36:12.600 --> 01:36:14.439
<v Speaker 5>of information to take in at once.

1583
01:36:14.520 --> 01:36:14.760
<v Speaker 2>I know.

1584
01:36:15.119 --> 01:36:19.479
<v Speaker 5>But if you leave this podcast, if you're actually paying

1585
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:21.359
<v Speaker 5>attention to it, and you listen to it from start

1586
01:36:21.359 --> 01:36:23.680
<v Speaker 5>to finish, and you still think Maryland took a bunch

1587
01:36:23.720 --> 01:36:25.880
<v Speaker 5>of pills and killed herself, I don't know what the

1588
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:27.960
<v Speaker 5>fuck to tell you. You should listen to Joe Rogan

1589
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:30.279
<v Speaker 5>with the rest of the retards, because this is not

1590
01:36:30.399 --> 01:36:31.560
<v Speaker 5>the podcast for you.

1591
01:36:33.399 --> 01:36:37.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's so unfortunate because we sort of downplay facts

1592
01:36:37.119 --> 01:36:40.920
<v Speaker 4>that are inconvenient and we go along with the mainstream narrative.

1593
01:36:41.319 --> 01:36:44.479
<v Speaker 4>I think that's one of the main pushes with pop

1594
01:36:44.680 --> 01:36:49.720
<v Speaker 4>icons like Marilyn Manson or Marilyn Monroe, because you're just

1595
01:36:49.760 --> 01:36:53.119
<v Speaker 4>not supposed to think, right Like, these are people who

1596
01:36:53.159 --> 01:36:55.000
<v Speaker 4>they put in front of you and say, isn't this

1597
01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:57.960
<v Speaker 4>what you want? Don't think about it, you know, and

1598
01:36:58.319 --> 01:37:01.720
<v Speaker 4>you get those every generation, get the boy bands and

1599
01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:05.680
<v Speaker 4>the pop princesses. Here's what we're offering. This is what

1600
01:37:05.720 --> 01:37:08.239
<v Speaker 4>you want, and you're not supposed to think. You're not

1601
01:37:08.279 --> 01:37:11.159
<v Speaker 4>supposed to apply your own values to it. You're just

1602
01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:14.600
<v Speaker 4>supposed to see and want, you know, And that goes

1603
01:37:14.600 --> 01:37:17.479
<v Speaker 4>back into the whole Barbie scenario too. You you did

1604
01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:19.680
<v Speaker 4>a couple of shows on Barbie that were really good

1605
01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:23.079
<v Speaker 4>talking about how this is like the introduction of a

1606
01:37:23.119 --> 01:37:27.399
<v Speaker 4>prostitute icon into American culture. That's just sort of just

1607
01:37:27.680 --> 01:37:29.800
<v Speaker 4>skin deep. You're not supposed to think about it. It's

1608
01:37:29.840 --> 01:37:31.640
<v Speaker 4>just supposed to be right there, and that's supposed to

1609
01:37:31.680 --> 01:37:33.560
<v Speaker 4>be who you want to be, you know, not.

1610
01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:37.560
<v Speaker 5>Right because with the Barbie, think about what little girls

1611
01:37:37.600 --> 01:37:42.239
<v Speaker 5>had before Barbie's. They had babies, and you it was

1612
01:37:42.279 --> 01:37:45.800
<v Speaker 5>a symbol of motherhood and where you were headed in life.

1613
01:37:45.840 --> 01:37:48.159
<v Speaker 5>Because when you're a little girl, you have a baby

1614
01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:50.399
<v Speaker 5>and you put in a fucking stroller and you feed

1615
01:37:50.399 --> 01:37:53.039
<v Speaker 5>it fucking carrots or whatever you do. You change its stiper,

1616
01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:55.239
<v Speaker 5>and that's what you do with it. You put the

1617
01:37:55.279 --> 01:37:58.039
<v Speaker 5>onesie on it. I had lots of babies when I

1618
01:37:58.199 --> 01:38:01.720
<v Speaker 5>was a little girl, and all of a sudden, it

1619
01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:05.720
<v Speaker 5>was like Barbie dolls that had tits and ass and

1620
01:38:06.119 --> 01:38:08.199
<v Speaker 5>you put little mini skirts on them. And they have

1621
01:38:08.359 --> 01:38:12.279
<v Speaker 5>boyfriends and then you act out weird sexual scenes with

1622
01:38:12.319 --> 01:38:15.000
<v Speaker 5>your friends and your Barbies. I know, the fuck I did.

1623
01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:18.560
<v Speaker 5>I'd be like, oh, this one's my boyfriend, and you know,

1624
01:38:18.760 --> 01:38:21.439
<v Speaker 5>you're you know, you're gonna stay home and watch the kids,

1625
01:38:21.439 --> 01:38:23.439
<v Speaker 5>and me and my boyfriend are gonna go out and

1626
01:38:23.479 --> 01:38:26.279
<v Speaker 5>we're gonna go party. And that's what Barbie was. It

1627
01:38:26.399 --> 01:38:29.800
<v Speaker 5>was like a party girl, mini skirts. And this was

1628
01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:33.760
<v Speaker 5>the introduction. And one of the first Barbies that they

1629
01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:39.600
<v Speaker 5>modeled off of was a prostitute doll. Anybody can google this.

1630
01:38:40.880 --> 01:38:43.560
<v Speaker 5>It was based and all they did to make this

1631
01:38:43.680 --> 01:38:46.680
<v Speaker 5>a Barbie and not a prostitute doll was they removed

1632
01:38:46.720 --> 01:38:50.159
<v Speaker 5>the nipples and the puss lips off of this doll.

1633
01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:54.960
<v Speaker 5>It was literally the same doll. This literal. Somebody fucking

1634
01:38:55.000 --> 01:38:58.600
<v Speaker 5>google it. It was called something or other. It was

1635
01:38:58.640 --> 01:39:02.039
<v Speaker 5>a prostitute doll that you could get in like sex shops,

1636
01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:07.199
<v Speaker 5>and it had red hair and it had like a

1637
01:39:07.199 --> 01:39:11.159
<v Speaker 5>little short dress on. And all they did when they

1638
01:39:11.199 --> 01:39:13.640
<v Speaker 5>made it a Barbie doll was take the puss and

1639
01:39:13.720 --> 01:39:16.319
<v Speaker 5>the nips off of it and they sold it to

1640
01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:20.640
<v Speaker 5>children and parents at first when they saw this doll,

1641
01:39:20.840 --> 01:39:24.960
<v Speaker 5>were like, what the fuck are you doing? And they

1642
01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:28.239
<v Speaker 5>pushed it so hard to go ahead. Lily, it was

1643
01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:29.560
<v Speaker 5>built Lily. Yeah.

1644
01:39:29.680 --> 01:39:33.520
<v Speaker 6>It was a German risque gad gift for men that

1645
01:39:33.640 --> 01:39:36.039
<v Speaker 6>was based on a cartoon character from the West German

1646
01:39:36.079 --> 01:39:42.000
<v Speaker 6>newspaper build a tomb No the tune, I don't speak German.

1647
01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:47.000
<v Speaker 6>Sorry that one sacon.

1648
01:39:47.279 --> 01:39:50.960
<v Speaker 5>See look at that? People think I make this ship up.

1649
01:39:51.239 --> 01:39:55.600
<v Speaker 5>It was literally a fucking sex doll that they took

1650
01:39:55.640 --> 01:40:00.800
<v Speaker 5>the nips off of and made into a child's toy. Yeah,

1651
01:40:01.039 --> 01:40:03.800
<v Speaker 5>so they get rid of the babies. Why would you

1652
01:40:03.840 --> 01:40:07.199
<v Speaker 5>want to do that? Motherhood is gross. Here's the sex

1653
01:40:07.279 --> 01:40:09.800
<v Speaker 5>doll for you to dress up and act out weird

1654
01:40:09.880 --> 01:40:15.520
<v Speaker 5>sexual scenes with. And uh, they obviously make a Maryland one,

1655
01:40:15.640 --> 01:40:18.960
<v Speaker 5>or at least they pay homage to Maryland with Barbie.

1656
01:40:19.600 --> 01:40:23.640
<v Speaker 4>And uh, every new generation they've got another Maryland doll

1657
01:40:23.680 --> 01:40:25.640
<v Speaker 4>that they're selling to because you know these are.

1658
01:40:25.560 --> 01:40:27.479
<v Speaker 5>What are they the collector's Barbies?

1659
01:40:28.079 --> 01:40:31.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, collector's addition, you know, four hundred dollars Maryland Barbie

1660
01:40:31.880 --> 01:40:33.399
<v Speaker 4>doll every ten years.

1661
01:40:33.960 --> 01:40:37.439
<v Speaker 5>And what about what about fucking the high Witch herself?

1662
01:40:37.560 --> 01:40:40.800
<v Speaker 5>Kim Kay. She shows up to one of the awards

1663
01:40:40.840 --> 01:40:44.520
<v Speaker 5>shows and one of Maryland's dress, the dress actually the

1664
01:40:44.600 --> 01:40:47.680
<v Speaker 5>nude see through dress. They say that she didn't have

1665
01:40:47.720 --> 01:40:50.199
<v Speaker 5>to alter it at all, that she just fit right

1666
01:40:50.239 --> 01:40:53.880
<v Speaker 5>into it. Dude, bet her ask busted through that dress

1667
01:40:53.880 --> 01:40:56.960
<v Speaker 5>the second she put it on. There was definitely alterations

1668
01:40:57.000 --> 01:40:59.520
<v Speaker 5>that were made to get her into that dress. You're

1669
01:40:59.560 --> 01:41:02.520
<v Speaker 5>not tell and meet Kim Kaye just stepped into Maryland's

1670
01:41:02.560 --> 01:41:06.439
<v Speaker 5>dress and was able to wear it. No fucking way, dude,

1671
01:41:07.399 --> 01:41:12.399
<v Speaker 5>that's what. Don't you think it was significant that she

1672
01:41:12.560 --> 01:41:13.279
<v Speaker 5>wore it? Though?

1673
01:41:14.239 --> 01:41:15.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? For sure.

1674
01:41:16.279 --> 01:41:18.880
<v Speaker 4>It seems like to me, the younger the girl is,

1675
01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.520
<v Speaker 4>the more she treats the barbie doll like a baby doll.

1676
01:41:22.039 --> 01:41:24.199
<v Speaker 4>And then when she gets older, the barbie doll takes

1677
01:41:24.239 --> 01:41:27.039
<v Speaker 4>on a whole different personality and it starts to reflect

1678
01:41:27.119 --> 01:41:30.319
<v Speaker 4>what the Barbie doll is meant to be reflecting. But

1679
01:41:30.399 --> 01:41:33.239
<v Speaker 4>you've got that sort of stage of development in between

1680
01:41:33.720 --> 01:41:37.159
<v Speaker 4>where it's like, well, these little, tiny girls want to

1681
01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:40.399
<v Speaker 4>treat this doll like it's a baby. But then once

1682
01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:44.399
<v Speaker 4>they get older, it's like, well, I've already established this relationship,

1683
01:41:44.439 --> 01:41:47.039
<v Speaker 4>but now it has to change because you know, little

1684
01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:49.680
<v Speaker 4>girls are changing too, and it's like skipping all the

1685
01:41:49.760 --> 01:41:53.199
<v Speaker 4>steps that you know young people should be going through

1686
01:41:53.239 --> 01:41:56.439
<v Speaker 4>and just right here here's your prostitute, your prostitute.

1687
01:41:56.439 --> 01:41:59.399
<v Speaker 5>Now you know I said that too. I was like,

1688
01:41:59.479 --> 01:42:01.920
<v Speaker 5>it's just as weird to me, how it went from

1689
01:42:01.960 --> 01:42:07.039
<v Speaker 5>from babies to Barbie's and I think Marylynd definitely played

1690
01:42:07.039 --> 01:42:11.720
<v Speaker 5>she was. They always said how Maryland was curvy. I

1691
01:42:11.760 --> 01:42:14.439
<v Speaker 5>know a lot of people talk about how Marylyn was curvy.

1692
01:42:14.479 --> 01:42:19.800
<v Speaker 5>The woman was a size six. And on my best day,

1693
01:42:20.199 --> 01:42:23.199
<v Speaker 5>I have not worn a size six. Maybe in high school.

1694
01:42:23.479 --> 01:42:25.760
<v Speaker 5>Maybe if we go back to fucking junior year, I

1695
01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:28.680
<v Speaker 5>could wear a size six. But tell me and what

1696
01:42:28.880 --> 01:42:32.840
<v Speaker 5>universe a size six is considered to be curvy because

1697
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:35.600
<v Speaker 5>they use it now. It's like the fat movement thing,

1698
01:42:35.880 --> 01:42:39.840
<v Speaker 5>fat positive thing like. And don't get me wrong, I'm

1699
01:42:39.880 --> 01:42:42.279
<v Speaker 5>not a fat shamer. I don't fucking care what size

1700
01:42:42.279 --> 01:42:45.319
<v Speaker 5>you are, but I'm not on board with pushing the

1701
01:42:45.399 --> 01:42:48.600
<v Speaker 5>fat narrative onto people, I think, and the ozimpic thing

1702
01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:53.079
<v Speaker 5>is just as bad. But Maryland and curvy, she just

1703
01:42:53.199 --> 01:42:55.600
<v Speaker 5>wasn't inarexic like the rest of the women that were

1704
01:42:55.720 --> 01:42:59.039
<v Speaker 5>famous back then. They were zero's and she was a six.

1705
01:42:59.319 --> 01:43:01.560
<v Speaker 5>Does it make her curvy though she was still healthy?

1706
01:43:02.279 --> 01:43:02.479
<v Speaker 4>Right?

1707
01:43:02.640 --> 01:43:02.920
<v Speaker 2>Well?

1708
01:43:03.000 --> 01:43:06.039
<v Speaker 4>I mean even that, it seems like they use that

1709
01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:08.560
<v Speaker 4>as like a foot in the door, you know, because

1710
01:43:08.880 --> 01:43:11.000
<v Speaker 4>even the rest of the girls back then that were

1711
01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:13.960
<v Speaker 4>you know, on par or maybe a little bit below Maryland.

1712
01:43:14.239 --> 01:43:18.079
<v Speaker 4>They weren't necessarily anorexic, that whole anorexic. She came in

1713
01:43:18.159 --> 01:43:20.800
<v Speaker 4>like in the late seventies, early eighties, and it just

1714
01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:24.039
<v Speaker 4>sort of stuck around as sort of like this, But

1715
01:43:24.319 --> 01:43:27.800
<v Speaker 4>we're the vision we're given of ourselves is always this

1716
01:43:27.920 --> 01:43:31.640
<v Speaker 4>fun house mirror that doesn't reflect anything about where we

1717
01:43:31.680 --> 01:43:34.199
<v Speaker 4>should be going, or what we should be doing, or

1718
01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:36.319
<v Speaker 4>what we'd like to be in our own lives. It

1719
01:43:36.359 --> 01:43:39.319
<v Speaker 4>always has to do with these sort of bizarre visions

1720
01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:41.520
<v Speaker 4>of ourselves given to us by these people who live

1721
01:43:41.600 --> 01:43:44.960
<v Speaker 4>on either side of the coasts that have no relationship

1722
01:43:45.359 --> 01:43:47.720
<v Speaker 4>to the lives that we really wanted to be living.

1723
01:43:47.760 --> 01:43:51.479
<v Speaker 4>You know, I mean, why are homosexual men the main

1724
01:43:51.600 --> 01:43:55.239
<v Speaker 4>fashion designers for women? Like that doesn't make sense.

1725
01:43:55.279 --> 01:43:56.079
<v Speaker 5>They're not even.

1726
01:43:55.880 --> 01:44:00.079
<v Speaker 4>Interested in women. You kind of see the skewing of

1727
01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:03.600
<v Speaker 4>of perceptions around the entire fashion industry and all this

1728
01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:06.399
<v Speaker 4>pop culture stuff, because it's like the people who want

1729
01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:11.199
<v Speaker 4>to destroy maybe like they don't like their mothers, for instance,

1730
01:44:11.199 --> 01:44:12.880
<v Speaker 4>with a lot of homosexual men, that's one of the

1731
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:16.079
<v Speaker 4>things that they really don't like their mothers, and so

1732
01:44:16.119 --> 01:44:18.359
<v Speaker 4>they get into the fashion modeling industry. So that they

1733
01:44:18.359 --> 01:44:21.000
<v Speaker 4>can put women in clothes that just don't feel good.

1734
01:44:21.279 --> 01:44:23.119
<v Speaker 4>It's like torture, you know. I mean, look at these

1735
01:44:23.159 --> 01:44:27.039
<v Speaker 4>stiletto heels and stuff. They're just torturing women. People don't

1736
01:44:27.039 --> 01:44:30.199
<v Speaker 4>buy the stuff. It's torture, you know. Let's get away

1737
01:44:30.199 --> 01:44:31.960
<v Speaker 4>from that and find our own values. One of the

1738
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:36.239
<v Speaker 4>problems is all of these images we get, our mirror

1739
01:44:36.319 --> 01:44:39.960
<v Speaker 4>neurons in our brain start to identify that with ourselves,

1740
01:44:40.399 --> 01:44:43.079
<v Speaker 4>and instead of having a really good picture of what

1741
01:44:43.119 --> 01:44:44.600
<v Speaker 4>we want to do with our lives and where we

1742
01:44:44.720 --> 01:44:49.079
<v Speaker 4>want to go, we end up mirroring the outside forces

1743
01:44:49.119 --> 01:44:52.159
<v Speaker 4>that shape culture. And they really are outside forces. I

1744
01:44:52.199 --> 01:44:55.279
<v Speaker 4>don't think anybody really identifies with the CIA, except for

1745
01:44:55.560 --> 01:44:59.039
<v Speaker 4>a very very small group of people in Langley. You know,

1746
01:44:59.239 --> 01:45:01.840
<v Speaker 4>their entire lives as the CIA, and they're the ones

1747
01:45:01.880 --> 01:45:04.079
<v Speaker 4>who are shaping culture. That's ridiculous.

1748
01:45:04.520 --> 01:45:06.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think that's why they use Maryland as an

1749
01:45:06.800 --> 01:45:09.399
<v Speaker 5>archetype to push like you should look like this, you

1750
01:45:09.439 --> 01:45:12.079
<v Speaker 5>should be like this. You should But I mean, if

1751
01:45:12.920 --> 01:45:15.159
<v Speaker 5>it were up to me, I would wear soft pants

1752
01:45:15.239 --> 01:45:18.520
<v Speaker 5>every fucking day. Actually, I got soft pants on right now.

1753
01:45:19.159 --> 01:45:21.640
<v Speaker 5>I live in soft pants. I don't want to wear

1754
01:45:21.680 --> 01:45:23.840
<v Speaker 5>this shit. I don't want to look like Maryland. I

1755
01:45:23.880 --> 01:45:26.680
<v Speaker 5>don't want to end up like Maryland, so fuck that.

1756
01:45:27.560 --> 01:45:30.039
<v Speaker 5>But thank you guys for having me though. I think,

1757
01:45:30.199 --> 01:45:34.640
<v Speaker 5>you know, this is a cool episode to kind of

1758
01:45:34.720 --> 01:45:38.760
<v Speaker 5>break into some people's reality chamber on you know, maybe

1759
01:45:38.880 --> 01:45:42.560
<v Speaker 5>stuff isn't always exactly as it seems, even though you've

1760
01:45:42.600 --> 01:45:45.760
<v Speaker 5>watched a Netflix documentary and you think you fucking know everything,

1761
01:45:46.199 --> 01:45:51.279
<v Speaker 5>maybe just maybe you don't. But thanks again for having

1762
01:45:51.279 --> 01:45:52.000
<v Speaker 5>me on, guys.

1763
01:45:52.399 --> 01:45:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Of course, no, thank you, thank you. That was fun. Yeah,

1764
01:45:56.680 --> 01:45:57.640
<v Speaker 2>that was really interesting.

1765
01:45:58.479 --> 01:45:59.439
<v Speaker 5>That was so important.

1766
01:45:59.560 --> 01:46:05.039
<v Speaker 3>Really should we wrap it up? Who mek her?

1767
01:46:06.520 --> 01:46:06.760
<v Speaker 4>No?

1768
01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.800
<v Speaker 6>Just I mean, I'm glad that you brought up all

1769
01:46:09.960 --> 01:46:13.520
<v Speaker 6>of these points to ponder these points of contention. I mean,

1770
01:46:13.560 --> 01:46:18.680
<v Speaker 6>because they are big gaping holes into the official narrative

1771
01:46:19.239 --> 01:46:23.039
<v Speaker 6>that has existed for so long. And again, so many

1772
01:46:23.119 --> 01:46:29.479
<v Speaker 6>things about Marilyn is completely opposite of what the narrative

1773
01:46:30.039 --> 01:46:32.359
<v Speaker 6>has been pushed. And if, like you said, if you

1774
01:46:32.720 --> 01:46:35.319
<v Speaker 6>just took the time to look up stuff, it's there.

1775
01:46:35.439 --> 01:46:38.840
<v Speaker 6>It's all there, and yet no one has I guess,

1776
01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:41.760
<v Speaker 6>been bothered to question it or to even be bothered

1777
01:46:41.760 --> 01:46:45.600
<v Speaker 6>to look for it. So I'm very grateful that you

1778
01:46:45.720 --> 01:46:48.439
<v Speaker 6>are you know, bringing these these topics to light.

1779
01:46:49.239 --> 01:46:52.760
<v Speaker 5>So thank you. Yeah, I appreciate, and I would say

1780
01:46:52.800 --> 01:46:54.880
<v Speaker 5>if anyone is interested, I know that we live in

1781
01:46:54.920 --> 01:46:58.159
<v Speaker 5>a generation that doesn't read books, but if you're interested,

1782
01:46:58.239 --> 01:46:59.800
<v Speaker 5>the book that I read where I got a lot

1783
01:46:59.800 --> 01:47:02.920
<v Speaker 5>of the information from, is called Dead Wrong. It's actually

1784
01:47:02.920 --> 01:47:07.560
<v Speaker 5>written by a comedian, and like most comedians, like Sam Tripley,

1785
01:47:07.600 --> 01:47:12.039
<v Speaker 5>even they're conspiracy theorists at heart. Even Tom Segura I

1786
01:47:12.199 --> 01:47:16.159
<v Speaker 5>think is secretly a conspiracy theorist. But the book, again

1787
01:47:16.279 --> 01:47:20.600
<v Speaker 5>is called Dead Wrong. The author is Richard Pelzer, and

1788
01:47:21.680 --> 01:47:26.039
<v Speaker 5>he talks about Marilyn, Linda B. Johnson, JFK, Martin, Luther

1789
01:47:26.159 --> 01:47:28.880
<v Speaker 5>King Junior. I mean, it's just a plethora of awesome

1790
01:47:28.920 --> 01:47:32.680
<v Speaker 5>conspiracy stuff and he goes based on forensics only. So

1791
01:47:32.720 --> 01:47:35.439
<v Speaker 5>if you're interested in that, you can check out that book.

1792
01:47:35.439 --> 01:47:37.520
<v Speaker 5>But again, thanks so much for having me. Guys.

1793
01:47:38.920 --> 01:47:41.640
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And I was just thinking as you were saying

1794
01:47:41.640 --> 01:47:44.199
<v Speaker 4>that maybe you could have a march line where you

1795
01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:48.079
<v Speaker 4>take all the inconvenient facts about Marilyn Manson or Marilyn

1796
01:47:48.079 --> 01:47:51.359
<v Speaker 4>Monroe's death and you list them like on the sides

1797
01:47:51.359 --> 01:47:53.760
<v Speaker 4>of her portrait. You know, no pills were found in

1798
01:47:53.760 --> 01:47:56.159
<v Speaker 4>her stomach, all the rest of these things. You know,

1799
01:47:56.239 --> 01:47:59.600
<v Speaker 4>the window was broken from the outside or from the

1800
01:47:59.600 --> 01:48:02.319
<v Speaker 4>inside out, all of these things, and you put that

1801
01:48:02.439 --> 01:48:04.840
<v Speaker 4>on the shirt with Marilyn Monroe's face on it. So

1802
01:48:04.880 --> 01:48:07.439
<v Speaker 4>you're taking advantage of the fact that she is a

1803
01:48:07.520 --> 01:48:09.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, archetype and showing all the people, Hey, look,

1804
01:48:10.159 --> 01:48:13.199
<v Speaker 4>these are inconvenient facts. You need to take that alongside

1805
01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:14.800
<v Speaker 4>of this image that you get from the rest of

1806
01:48:14.800 --> 01:48:15.199
<v Speaker 4>the media.

1807
01:48:15.840 --> 01:48:18.119
<v Speaker 5>That would actually be a good idea. I did in

1808
01:48:18.199 --> 01:48:20.920
<v Speaker 5>my merch store, which I never plug, but I made

1809
01:48:20.960 --> 01:48:24.800
<v Speaker 5>a Marilyn hoodie and it had Marilyn with a magnifying

1810
01:48:24.840 --> 01:48:28.199
<v Speaker 5>glass and a monarch butterfly over her head. And I

1811
01:48:28.319 --> 01:48:30.199
<v Speaker 5>try to come up with shit that's like. If you

1812
01:48:30.239 --> 01:48:31.880
<v Speaker 5>saw it, you'd be like, what's that about? And I'd

1813
01:48:31.880 --> 01:48:35.439
<v Speaker 5>be like, wow, let me fucking tell you what that's about.

1814
01:48:36.359 --> 01:48:38.479
<v Speaker 5>But no, Yeah, that's a good idea. I like that.

1815
01:48:38.520 --> 01:48:40.279
<v Speaker 5>I'll put it on the back of the hoodie. No

1816
01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:44.279
<v Speaker 5>pills cyanosis.

1817
01:48:44.439 --> 01:48:45.680
<v Speaker 4>Right, Yeah, that's good.

1818
01:48:45.920 --> 01:48:48.479
<v Speaker 5>I like that, So rolland asshole.

1819
01:48:51.000 --> 01:48:52.640
<v Speaker 4>I just want to plug one more time. If you

1820
01:48:52.640 --> 01:48:56.079
<v Speaker 4>guys have any esoteric stories or you have anything that

1821
01:48:56.119 --> 01:48:59.800
<v Speaker 4>has happened to you, weird or bizarre magical experiences too.

1822
01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:04.239
<v Speaker 4>You can email me at the Headless Giant Podcast at

1823
01:49:04.239 --> 01:49:06.960
<v Speaker 4>gmail dot com and we'll read those stories on the air.

1824
01:49:07.039 --> 01:49:10.079
<v Speaker 4>So thank you for having me. Nick, thank you for coming.

1825
01:49:10.159 --> 01:49:14.439
<v Speaker 3>Julia, thank you for coming on. And Juliet, thank you

1826
01:49:14.479 --> 01:49:16.720
<v Speaker 3>again very much for coming on. Can you please plug

1827
01:49:16.760 --> 01:49:18.560
<v Speaker 3>all your stuff so everybody can find me? You have

1828
01:49:18.600 --> 01:49:19.319
<v Speaker 3>your amusing work.

1829
01:49:20.399 --> 01:49:24.800
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I'm wherever you listen to podcasts, not YouTube. Patreon

1830
01:49:24.960 --> 01:49:30.079
<v Speaker 5>for bonus episodes and early access to all the shows

1831
01:49:30.119 --> 01:49:32.359
<v Speaker 5>that I put out, and you can just look for

1832
01:49:32.439 --> 01:49:35.039
<v Speaker 5>Cosmic Peach and you'll you'll find me somewhere.

1833
01:49:36.600 --> 01:49:37.039
<v Speaker 2>Awesome.

1834
01:49:37.119 --> 01:49:39.920
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, and thank you everybody in the

1835
01:49:40.000 --> 01:49:42.079
<v Speaker 3>chat for showing up and adding to the comments. That

1836
01:49:42.199 --> 01:49:44.399
<v Speaker 3>was awesome. It was fun, some good stuff in there.

1837
01:49:44.720 --> 01:49:47.359
<v Speaker 3>That's why I go live. And that is the end

1838
01:49:47.359 --> 01:49:50.319
<v Speaker 3>of another Recult Rejects and until the next one, everybody

1839
01:49:50.359 --> 01:49:50.680
<v Speaker 3>be well.
