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Speaker 2: Saba Son, you're gonna ring in the bat water. You
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Speaker 2: the laps fan Mann the one in the ring. Forget
Speaker 2: about Osada with a real king of swing when the
Speaker 2: bell goes in and the kick like men throwing in
Speaker 2: the corner with its rash like sting.
Speaker 3: Even Jerry King and take off the crowd nodded.
Speaker 1: In his head like his tean low Brown were just getting.
Speaker 3: Low down, goat even higher, flipping you on your head.
Speaker 2: But you no cool, drive more knowledge and dragon spits
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Speaker 4: Live is going to take the stage again. This time
Speaker 4: we're invading Times Square. There goes the neighborhood boss.
Speaker 3: Oh you're damn right.
Speaker 4: Doing live steps from WWF New York and The co
Speaker 4: Chairman Comedy Village August third, at noon, in no small
Speaker 4: part due to our partner in crime. In the past,
Speaker 4: when he's put the bat signal up, the co chairs
Speaker 4: have responded and taken a live stage at Philadelphia or
Speaker 4: Los Angeles or New York in.
Speaker 3: This case, all these fucking major major metropolis. This here,
Speaker 3: that's all we do. We don't do small venues. We
Speaker 3: only do the big cities.
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Vegas? Vegas was too small?
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't have the residency. But Ray Goots is
Speaker 4: back with us here. You know him, You love them
Speaker 4: and Ray. First of all, how you doing? Long time
Speaker 4: no talk here on the airwaves?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. How's it going, guys? We haven't done
Speaker 5: this in over a year, which is good to be
Speaker 5: back on the show.
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's it's it's crazy. Why do you keep
Speaker 3: doing this to us? You keep making us suffer here?
Speaker 5: You know, I think if SummerSlam wasn't the first two
Speaker 5: night extravaganza, I would have had this idea. But it's
Speaker 5: a two night extravaganza, and I don't know if people
Speaker 5: are going to travel for this because they're not doing
Speaker 5: a good job promoting it. But hey, let's give it
Speaker 5: a shot. You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really know the degree to which kind
Speaker 4: of post those early post COVID years like twenty twenty one,
Speaker 4: the degree to which people travel to a summer slam.
Speaker 4: I guess we're about to find out. But fortunately for
Speaker 4: your co chairs, you know, we happen to have known
Speaker 4: over the years that we've got a really strong base
Speaker 4: in and around the area. For sure, we felt confident
Speaker 4: going going forward and going hard. So raking it. What
Speaker 4: can you tell them about what they're going to be
Speaker 4: seeing and what they're going to be experiencing. This is
Speaker 4: a venue you know quite well here Comedy Village in
Speaker 4: Times Square.
Speaker 5: Yes, so this venue actually opened a year ago and
Speaker 5: I helped the owner PJ, get it together. You know
Speaker 5: Times Square. We used to have in Times Square Carolines,
Speaker 5: which I was, oh yeah, which was famous venue. So
Speaker 5: many people started there, Mike bur Bigley, a Bill Burr,
Speaker 5: Paterrees O'Neill being cooked. A lot of people started there
Speaker 5: and it went out of business sitting in the twenty
Speaker 5: twenty two and at the time I thought, well, someone
Speaker 5: big is gonna come in and take a club, and
Speaker 5: nobody did. And my friend PJ was looking for a club,
Speaker 5: and I said to him, you gotta do Midpound. No
Speaker 5: one's doing Midpound. Everyone's all over the place. That's where
Speaker 5: the tourists aren't build up a year ago. It's a
Speaker 5: big success. He's got two rooms. You guys will be
Speaker 5: in the upstairs room, and it's said, it's the great
Speaker 5: thing about that club is you know now big names
Speaker 5: are going to come for a while. I don't. After
Speaker 5: he performed on Glengarry Glenn Ross, when Bill Berg got
Speaker 5: off stage, he immediately went to this club and worked
Speaker 5: out a special. So he was there every night for
Speaker 5: at least a month.
Speaker 4: Or two Hallot halls. So so wow, by the time
Speaker 4: we're done, he'll be the second most famous New England
Speaker 4: or to work the club.
Speaker 3: That's right, you damn right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes, three fifty two West forty fourth Street.
Speaker 4: For those keeping track, Comedy Village dot com to join
Speaker 4: us thirty five bucks, to drink minimum food and drink right.
Speaker 4: People can can make plans to satiate themselves in every
Speaker 4: conceivable way.
Speaker 5: Yes, so yeah, So the club has food bar like
Speaker 5: more like bar food, you know, but it has a
Speaker 5: full menu and they have drinks and you know, you're
Speaker 5: gonna want to get plastered. But the other great thing
Speaker 5: about this venue is the ease of access to it.
Speaker 5: And what I mean by that is, I.
Speaker 4: Mean they don't have to spend six weeks trying to
Speaker 4: assuage people's fears about getting to the Comedy Chateau.
Speaker 3: We don't have to. We don't have to create carpools
Speaker 3: and stuff to get up there.
Speaker 5: You know, I gotta tell you, you know, the Comedy
Speaker 5: Store is such a more I've I've learned now in
Speaker 5: the pastory is the Chateau is like the most reviled
Speaker 5: club here in LA.
Speaker 4: But especially after we were done with it, exactly.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm kind of glad we didn't get the
Speaker 5: Comedy Store two years ago. Beca dude, I cannot find
Speaker 5: parking in West Hollywood. I was supposed to go there
Speaker 5: the other night. I was driving up and down, up
Speaker 5: and down. I think like the show would have had
Speaker 5: to start like three in the morning if we had
Speaker 5: gotten the Comedy Store three years ago.
Speaker 4: Wow, I just have to say, well, can you give
Speaker 4: me any tips? Boss? As a former Angelino?
Speaker 3: No, okay, so there you go.
Speaker 4: You are fucked. That is that's extreally clear. I do
Speaker 4: have to say, though, Ray, when you talk about driving around,
Speaker 4: I feel like a proud papa because close listeners will
Speaker 4: know that, really, the only reason you even got your
Speaker 4: license in the first place was that you could drive
Speaker 4: to Philly to book the venue for the co chairs.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that was my first dig trip was to
Speaker 5: go to Helium because the GM blew me off and
Speaker 5: said maybe we can do it in August or something,
Speaker 5: and nobody cares about WrestleMania. And then I went to
Speaker 5: Punchline Philly and they believed in you. And let me
Speaker 5: tell you, I don't know. You know, I'm a year
Speaker 5: behind the podcast, so I don't know if you guys
Speaker 5: have talked too much about Philly. But Philly was beyond
Speaker 5: the home run. I mean we had one of the
Speaker 5: best clubs. I don't want to say the best club
Speaker 5: in Philly. It was the best best club in Philly.
Speaker 5: It was packed to the rafters. You guys put on
Speaker 5: a great show. I mean your show last year was
Speaker 5: probably better than WrestleMania. I mean it always is, but
Speaker 5: like that was a home run. That what you guys
Speaker 5: pulled off, what we pulled off, and the fact that
Speaker 5: Punchline Philly believed in us and they gave us so
Speaker 5: much support. I thought that, I don't know what you
Speaker 5: guys proud of that show. I was very proud of
Speaker 5: that show.
Speaker 3: I've certainly speaking absolutely, I mean in in so many
Speaker 3: different ways. I thought it was. It was such a
Speaker 3: great turnout. It was nice. It was a good, uh
Speaker 3: sophomore effort, I thought on on on all fronts. It was.
Speaker 3: It was nice to not have to not be completely
Speaker 3: freaked out, you know, the whole time, and you know,
Speaker 3: hoping to God we could make it on time, uh
Speaker 3: to the place, and uh, yeah it was. It was
Speaker 3: a great crowd. And honestly, you know, I'm I'm grateful.
Speaker 3: I'm grateful I got my voice back by the time
Speaker 3: that it all panned out. You know. That's that's still
Speaker 3: the horror show for me was just the idea of
Speaker 3: waking up with that swollen uvula that morning and I
Speaker 3: couldn't fucking speak.
Speaker 4: We k fab on that or do we clue you
Speaker 4: in on that? I don't remember when we got to.
Speaker 5: Filled me in on that. You filled me in on that,
Speaker 5: and I think it was because you guys were like
Speaker 5: into freezing cold while Rock walked to the rain for
Speaker 5: forty minutes right, it.
Speaker 3: Was yeah, I mean it was well yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: who I don't really know what it was exactly, but
Speaker 3: I mean, I'll definitely put the cold to part of it.
Speaker 3: But it was just it was just so weird to
Speaker 3: wake up like that. And I mean that was just
Speaker 3: a miserable, honest to God, without a doubt, the most
Speaker 3: miserable live experience ever had watching wrestling.
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it was so fuck it. And then and
Speaker 4: then to think they were going to Mini the next year,
Speaker 4: which of course they didn't, and of course it indoors
Speaker 4: I get it, but that was just It's all people
Speaker 4: could talk about in the needed aftermath was how cold
Speaker 4: it was. So we're just swapping out. We just swapped
Speaker 4: out the anxiety of having to run from so far
Speaker 4: while Cody counted his tears to waking up in a
Speaker 4: state of can we even do the show in Philly?
Speaker 4: So who knows what awaits us this year in New York.
Speaker 4: But we're proud to say that, you know, because it's
Speaker 4: closer to home turf. We're not even concerning ourselves with
Speaker 4: the biggest two night Summer Slam in history in terms
Speaker 4: of live attendance and met life We've been to Met
Speaker 4: Life plenty of times. Okay, we've got our run of
Speaker 4: the place. But we will of course be able to
Speaker 4: take the stage and recap Night one of Summer Slam
Speaker 4: and a preview Night two as part of the as
Speaker 4: part of the festivities. But yeah, Ray, that's great to
Speaker 4: hear about last year. I'm just personally speaking, it was.
Speaker 4: It felt like a total home run. It felt like
Speaker 4: a real moment where you kind of realize what ten
Speaker 4: years gets you, you know, right, yeah, feeling pain?
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know that's why, like this year, we're
Speaker 5: not going to have any any comedians on stage with
Speaker 5: you guys. I just think it's better that you guys
Speaker 5: just do your thing and maybe even members of the
Speaker 5: Solar System who you know, you guys know well can
Speaker 5: chime in and give their opinions and and and and
Speaker 5: give you guys something to talk about rather than because
Speaker 5: you know, most comedians were great, but every now and
Speaker 5: then you got a comedian being like, oh what was
Speaker 5: he talking like Vince or something?
Speaker 4: Oh, they have so much to learn?
Speaker 3: Do they do? They do?
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I think it's better like this is you
Speaker 5: know what this is? Like? This is like remember like
Speaker 5: Vince eventually went like Russell Badie, we don't need the celebrities.
Speaker 5: We're the celebrities. That's this, that's this year. That's the
Speaker 5: summer Slam Labs fan live show in New York City.
Speaker 3: Yeah listen, I don't listen. We're at the biggest party
Speaker 3: of the summer right there at the Comedy Village.
Speaker 4: I don't think MTV should buy w w F. I
Speaker 4: think w W should buy MTV. I think w should
Speaker 4: by w W Well, we're not could be too far
Speaker 4: from where they went public and put shares on the
Speaker 4: public exchange, right where they converted that that that year
Speaker 4: of year and years of goodwill and cash flow into
Speaker 4: into into Wall Street, Cheddar, we'ren't going to be too
Speaker 4: far from those tickers. That might be that might be
Speaker 4: a fun little uh uh uh unt little john down
Speaker 4: to Wall Street. And this is where Vince were a
Speaker 4: black turtleneck and rang the bell.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, oh yeah, that's right there. That that is.
Speaker 5: Remember they didn't they have like a ring. They had
Speaker 5: like a ring, Oh my god, did right.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was right on Wall Street,
Speaker 4: but it wasn't far away. Yeah, they had some I.
Speaker 5: Mean you guys are gonna be very close to where
Speaker 5: Diesel and Lawrence Taylor did the lie workout.
Speaker 4: That's another good call. Look at that.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot of good New
Speaker 3: York stuff there, you know.
Speaker 4: And I would be and doing the Coliseum Collection recently.
Speaker 4: I'd be lying if I told you that I did
Speaker 4: not write down the address that they used to give
Speaker 4: you in the Colosseum videos, like a mile away to
Speaker 4: save your letters and thoughts.
Speaker 5: I'm there. Yeah, that's that's true. That's very very true.
Speaker 4: I'm going have told us. But I'm sure it's a
Speaker 4: total ship house whatever it is. But that's that's what
Speaker 4: we're here for. That's what we're here to talk.
Speaker 5: Wasn't there a gym? I remember now you brought back
Speaker 5: to Colseum Collection and again I'm still catching up with
Speaker 5: everything with you guys. Wasn't there a gym in Times
Speaker 5: Square where Rodny Piper worked out before Wrestlemingia one and
Speaker 5: they filmed in there.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think no, But I think there's a gym
Speaker 5: in Midtown. Maybe Hulekgan and mister T worked out there,
Speaker 5: But I think that gym is still there in midtown,
Speaker 5: so you could, you know, still there and patribu to
Speaker 5: the Holster.
Speaker 3: See if there's any people remember, See if anybody who
Speaker 3: works there remembers. I do love doing that with with people,
Speaker 3: and see if they have any recollection of these monumental
Speaker 3: wrestling events that happened. And nobody does. Yeah.
Speaker 5: No, By the way, Gleason's gym is still there. That's
Speaker 5: still in Brooklyn. Johnny Rods is still a part of
Speaker 5: that place.
Speaker 4: That's amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's wonderful. As they were still training wrestlers. I
Speaker 5: don't know if they you know, I don't know if
Speaker 5: you remember this, if this ever came up in the podcast,
Speaker 5: but Vince Russo trained with him for a little bit.
Speaker 3: Oh goodness.
Speaker 4: Yeah there's someone we should drop in on. But he's
Speaker 4: as far from the possible these days. He doesn't really
Speaker 4: he doesn't really associate anymore with the area. Too many
Speaker 4: enemies perhaps, I don't know, I don't know what it is.
Speaker 5: Too many enemies, but you know, he's never really you know,
Speaker 5: I said this, he's not a New Yorker. He's a
Speaker 5: guy from Long Island, like people from on Island and
Speaker 5: even this cityot Eddie Kingston, who's from upstate New York.
Speaker 5: He loved to go, I'm in New York. I no, no,
Speaker 5: you live in the city of New York, all right,
Speaker 5: but I watched you guys are New Yorkers, like I'm
Speaker 5: so sick of everyone. And then the youth had excuse
Speaker 5: me because all of Vincrusso's excuses why he didn't work
Speaker 5: out with Cornett. You didn't I'm a New Yorker. No,
Speaker 5: you got you're a fucking loser from Long Island.
Speaker 3: Hey, he's not wrong. He's not wrong in that. You know,
Speaker 3: you gotta live in a burrow, all right, you gotta
Speaker 3: live in a borrow, born and raised in a borough,
Speaker 3: then then you're a fucking New Yorker exactly.
Speaker 5: He's just he's another small town pump pumpkin, just like
Speaker 5: Jim Cornette looks all right, that's the same.
Speaker 3: You don't see Mick Foley going around saying he's a
Speaker 3: New Yorker, all right, he's a long he's a Long
Speaker 3: Island all right, a Long Island iced bitch.
Speaker 5: That's right. Yeah, dude, I got One of the reasons
Speaker 5: I left New York was just so many people I
Speaker 5: live in La Now updated case any LABS fan fans
Speaker 5: were wondering, just so many people like moved to New
Speaker 5: York and within a day they start calling themselves New Yorkers,
Speaker 5: and they start acting like they're the experts of the city.
Speaker 4: Really really a rough look, really rough.
Speaker 5: And I remember you guys are talking about that on
Speaker 5: the nine to eleven episode and JP nailed it, Like
Speaker 5: they come to New York and then they just make
Speaker 5: that their whole identity, living in New York, and.
Speaker 3: Then it's a miserable, nauseating it's nauseating.
Speaker 4: Yes, m it's very self congratulatory, you know, yes, you know,
Speaker 4: it's like I would move to New York and I'm
Speaker 4: in a running club and and I know a place
Speaker 4: that has good espresso. It's like, you know, that's enough. Okay,
Speaker 4: We've moved on as a society from having any cash angry. Okay,
Speaker 4: do you know how to keep your sanity? That's the
Speaker 4: only question. I'm glad you mentioned Ray the notion that
Speaker 4: you know, just more of an intimate time, you know,
Speaker 4: possible here with with the with the members of the
Speaker 4: Solar System, because that is something that that that's kind
Speaker 4: of been an identity crisis. You know, it's like we
Speaker 4: do these shows and everyone's here to see just a
Speaker 4: live version of us, just chopping it up. And it
Speaker 4: always feels like we owe the people so much more
Speaker 4: preparation than that. But I don't know. I think you're right.
Speaker 4: I think people just want to be able to wrap
Speaker 4: with us and hear top of mind when I hear
Speaker 4: the podcast taking the stage that you know that they
Speaker 4: do prepare some stuff, and we will prepare some stuff.
Speaker 4: Don't make any mistake about that. We can't help ourselves.
Speaker 4: But but you're a solar system. Remember you stepped up
Speaker 4: out of nowhere and put this on our plate years ago.
Speaker 4: What do they want? What do you think they want?
Speaker 5: I think I think the great thing about the LAPS
Speaker 5: Fan Live is number one. I'm assuming you guys are
Speaker 5: doing this. I don't want to speak for you, but
Speaker 5: this this will not be of recording.
Speaker 4: Right, That's where we stand. That's where we stand at
Speaker 4: the moment. Yes, it's people always need it so bad
Speaker 4: and we always feel so bad, but that's kind of
Speaker 4: where we have to listen.
Speaker 3: There is nobody above the law, that's right. Okay, that's
Speaker 3: that's the bottom line.
Speaker 5: But I think the great thing about going to see
Speaker 5: the laps Fan live is that you know. The great
Speaker 5: thing when I you know, because I when I was
Speaker 5: in New York and it's harder over here to do this,
Speaker 5: But I would go for two three hour walks just
Speaker 5: listening to you guys, right, and I feel like I'm
Speaker 5: in a room with my friends bullshitting about wrestling. These
Speaker 5: are conversations I would happen ninety eight ninety nine that
Speaker 5: my friends got lives. And but what I'm saying is
Speaker 5: like these conversations are very much like I feel like
Speaker 5: I'm part of a conversation with you guys, even though
Speaker 5: I'm not. You guys are like it's I'm a year
Speaker 5: behind as well, so it's a year ago, you're another
Speaker 5: part of the country. It is what it is. But
Speaker 5: I think being there live and not having you know,
Speaker 5: and I love these guys and I'm not pooping on them,
Speaker 5: but not having a comedians step over your words, where
Speaker 5: you guys can free flow and bring in the characters
Speaker 5: and lab Vince and laps Hogan and playoff whatever's going
Speaker 5: on that weekend, because I'm sure it's gonna be a
Speaker 5: newsworthy weekend whether it's a good show or not. That's
Speaker 5: up the need. It's gonna be a newsworthy weekend. I
Speaker 5: think you I think you know it's gonna be really
Speaker 5: fun to hear you guys in person freestyle bullshit. And
Speaker 5: I think you know the great thing about you two
Speaker 5: is I think of a fan. If you do a
Speaker 5: Q and A or a fan calls out something, it
Speaker 5: could take the show into a totally different direction. Yes,
Speaker 5: you know, yep, And you know, I just think there's
Speaker 5: when you guys are on, there's like nobody better.
Speaker 4: Do you remember JP when we were in Vegas for
Speaker 4: Star Cast two, Yes, and there came a point in
Speaker 4: the show where the lapsed Vince was let's say he
Speaker 4: was being heard but not seen, okay, And we took
Speaker 4: a mic out into the people and we asked them
Speaker 4: to ask lapsed Vince questions.
Speaker 3: I do I remember this, but I don't remember. Go
Speaker 3: tell me it, do it?
Speaker 4: I mean there were you know, I can't say I'm
Speaker 4: gonna recall an exact specific moment. As much as the
Speaker 4: general like people were like they loved it. And at
Speaker 4: the same time, there were some people there who I
Speaker 4: think half ascidly put their hand up and you're like
Speaker 4: answering questions about like if if Sasha is getting the
Speaker 4: correct push. What a moment to be in a situation
Speaker 4: where they missed the lapsed part of the whole thing.
Speaker 3: Right and they're asking like legit questions and it's like, what,
Speaker 3: I don't believe.
Speaker 4: Why aren't you pushing? I'm like, you know that's not vincent.
Speaker 5: I don't believe you correctly predicted Cody Rose would go.
Speaker 4: Back to that was show one before, but he made
Speaker 4: several predictions on that one too, that that will come
Speaker 4: to fruition eventually. That was the night after John Moxley
Speaker 4: went to a W that was the Double or Nothing weekend,
Speaker 4: and so he had a lot to say, especially about
Speaker 4: Brett coming out with the a W championship, and then
Speaker 4: his ass ended right back under that that tightening is
Speaker 4: you better believe he's he's fee he's feeding again. He
Speaker 4: roll his eyes at Triple H. But when they're in
Speaker 4: Calgary and the phone rings, guess who's on Guess who's
Speaker 4: on a plane?
Speaker 5: You know I you know, I wouldn't be I don't
Speaker 5: know if he's coming up for the weekend. I would
Speaker 5: not be at all surprised that he was at the
Speaker 5: Goldberg Manches.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be watching closely.
Speaker 5: Are you guys loving Jesse Venturn commentary as much as
Speaker 5: I am?
Speaker 3: By the way, I I definitely. I I think I
Speaker 3: think even when he's his most annoying, he is a
Speaker 3: breath of fresh air on on on on commentary because
Speaker 3: he just talks circles around these clowns who have no
Speaker 3: idea what the fuck to do, and he's bringing up
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, they're so they're so you know,
Speaker 3: sucked into their into their stupid storytelling that they forget
Speaker 3: that there's like real shit that that actually makes real
Speaker 3: sense that he's calling out and they have no idea
Speaker 3: what to do with that. They have no idea what
Speaker 3: to do when a referee fucking makes a mistake, or
Speaker 3: when you know, when someone when when a wrestler does
Speaker 3: something bad to somebody else who just did something bad
Speaker 3: or whatever, it's like, you know, they have he's got,
Speaker 3: he's got no again and no matter how annoying, and
Speaker 3: he can get annoying on commentary, no question, but just
Speaker 3: to hear him like he's got such a keen eye
Speaker 3: for catching a lot of stuff that I, you know,
Speaker 3: I feel like people like Michael Cole and that fucking
Speaker 3: idiot football player have have been trained to not notice,
Speaker 3: you know, and it and it and it's it's it's
Speaker 3: almost like, oh, yeah, this is what real people fucking
Speaker 3: think when they fucking watch this ship.
Speaker 5: One of the greatest moments I think was the Drew
Speaker 5: McIntyre walking I mean, I'm sorry, jamiean priest walking out
Speaker 5: of the cage and the fact that Jesse just went
Speaker 5: on how stupid he thought he was, and Pat mcavee
Speaker 5: and Michael Cole did not know how to respond to him.
Speaker 5: They it's almost sounded like robots malfunctioning.
Speaker 3: Me.
Speaker 4: Yes, it was.
Speaker 5: It kind of exposed how I mean, we always we
Speaker 5: always know it's how fake the product is. But the
Speaker 5: scariest thing to me is a lot of young fans
Speaker 5: were like, why is Jesse pulling out this on the storyline.
Speaker 5: He's rooting the storyline, and it's like even the fans
Speaker 5: don't know how to react when someone's a human being
Speaker 5: for thirty seconds on ww television.
Speaker 4: That's such a true point. I mean, they because they
Speaker 4: all think that somewhere along the line they'll be they'll
Speaker 4: be brought in under the tent, you know, right, They
Speaker 4: think one day WW will fuck them.
Speaker 5: You know, WW will have the on the pre show
Speaker 5: like they did with Sam Roberts.
Speaker 4: I mean, not even that, even just you know, give
Speaker 4: them a little boost on socials where you know, all
Speaker 4: of a sudden they drop a comment defending the E
Speaker 4: and then a bunch of people follow them or their
Speaker 4: engagement stats go up, and then you got that and
Speaker 4: forget it. They're just you'll never see them in.
Speaker 5: The video video.
Speaker 4: That's another huge one. You're damn right about that.
Speaker 5: Showing people react another way to control the fans, because
Speaker 5: now everyone's making fake reactions to everything that is so true,
Speaker 5: screaming when our truth comes out. I know that you've
Speaker 5: seen the guy now for forty seven years.
Speaker 4: You know, we talk so much about how much shame
Speaker 4: and pain is involved the being a lifelong wrestling fan
Speaker 4: of our vintage and being steps from the guard, and
Speaker 4: will really I think drive it home in a lot
Speaker 4: of ways coming up August third, But we think back
Speaker 4: to those days and one of the things you could
Speaker 4: always say about wrestling announcers, the television announcers is that
Speaker 4: as silly as the general public considered that the violence,
Speaker 4: as foolish as they considered the pretend fights and the
Speaker 4: pretend characters and all of that. The announcers were allowed
Speaker 4: to comment on things in a way that was part
Speaker 4: of the show, but somewhat ironically distant from the show,
Speaker 4: so that you know, as much as someone would have
Speaker 4: made fun of you for being a wrestling fan when
Speaker 4: you were a kid in the nineties or the eighties
Speaker 4: or the seventies, they wouldn't, I would wager make fun
Speaker 4: of the announcers in the same way, because the announcers,
Speaker 4: while part of the circus, were allowed, like a Gorilla
Speaker 4: Monsoon was allowed to call something out that happened in
Speaker 4: the ring that was a miss, that was unflattering, that
Speaker 4: wasn't part of some you know, pre decided fabric of
Speaker 4: how we weave our Disney style storytelling to a crescendo.
Speaker 4: You know, these sort of like and all it is
Speaker 4: is heuristics. All it is are these like these memorized
Speaker 4: beats and patterns of things that have worked before that
Speaker 4: they're trying to systematize. They're trying to make it seem
Speaker 4: like because one angle got over once that that's like
Speaker 4: a blueprint as opposed to just what was right at
Speaker 4: the time for the wrestlers involved, and so you know,
Speaker 4: you get you get four thousand attempts at Savage and
Speaker 4: Ran Savage and Elizabeth as we just talked about in
Speaker 4: the costume collection, yep, and just you know, oh yeah,
Speaker 4: very rareer the performers, they're gonna be able to rise
Speaker 4: to that, and even rarer other performers who have kind
Speaker 4: of the backdrop of legitimate you know, tension and fear
Speaker 4: that existed come to find out between Randy and Elizabeth
Speaker 4: so that it really penetrated the camera in that way.
Speaker 4: Rare is the case of a Jake Roberts who has
Speaker 4: been through so much crazy shit in personal trauma that
Speaker 4: he can actually channel real pain in front of the
Speaker 4: camera instead of playing a character that's been through pain.
Speaker 5: Brother right, well, I mean, I mean, I think one
Speaker 5: of the one of the biggest things that the biggest
Speaker 5: story of this year, and I think Hull Hogan should
Speaker 5: be very happy this has happened. Is the other failure
Speaker 5: of the John Cena Heiltern and how much it makes
Speaker 5: the Hull Coogan He'll turn better retrospect when you think
Speaker 5: about the fact that Hull Coogan was the most successful
Speaker 5: wrestler on the planet. No one can argue nineteen ninety
Speaker 5: sixties the most successful elsort ever lived. He turned his
Speaker 5: back on everything everything he did, He did everything different,
Speaker 5: and he kind of forced Vincent Man. I mean, you
Speaker 5: go to the ausoling, but because of the success of
Speaker 5: ww Vince had to change his whole business strategy. And
Speaker 5: John Cena is terrified, terrified to go against anything he's
Speaker 5: ever done. He has, He's you can just see the
Speaker 5: doubt in his face every time he cuts a promo. Yeah,
Speaker 5: it has been one of the biggest failures I've ever
Speaker 5: seen in wrestling, the John Cena hill turn. I can't
Speaker 5: believe how bad it is every week. I'm shocked how
Speaker 5: worse it it gets every week.
Speaker 4: Yeah, going into Summer Slam in the rematch with Cody,
Speaker 4: he's been carefully threading this needle to such an absurd
Speaker 4: degree that we're all just sitting here wonderingly, what is
Speaker 4: what is this? Besides we're just waiting to see if
Speaker 4: Seena has come up with six more singers this week,
Speaker 4: and he'll get thirty times the promo time of anybody else,
Speaker 4: and we'll go, oh, and that's that's it. That's what
Speaker 4: we're watching. John Cena for after all these years. I
Speaker 4: don't know. Boss Sina said not too long ago that
Speaker 4: after he turn heel, he's here to ruin wrestling, and
Speaker 4: I'm looking around, I think he's succeeding.
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's there's there's
Speaker 3: no question about that. I I I, I mean, I
Speaker 3: can't you know, I don't watch it. I don't watch
Speaker 3: you a week to week. I don't know what the
Speaker 3: fuck is going on. We tweak, you know. I completely
Speaker 3: even forgot that it's supposed to be Cody and Sina
Speaker 3: at SummerSlam, which I think is the biggest mistake they
Speaker 3: could possibly do. I think it's so it's just such
Speaker 3: a waste of everything. I mean, I I've been saying,
Speaker 3: Ray I, I've been saying from from day one that
Speaker 3: that that that Codence should be back, shouldn't have come
Speaker 3: back till after Summer Slam, that he should have been
Speaker 3: gone the whole summer and not come back until after
Speaker 3: Summer Slam, and let Sina, you know, essentially run amuck.
Speaker 3: Not that he would have run a muck, but it
Speaker 3: would have been great se him run a muck and
Speaker 3: then and then you know, Cody comes back and beatsn
Speaker 3: end of the year sort of thing. But you know,
Speaker 3: have him back. I mean, just don't see what the
Speaker 3: fucking point is. It's like it just I mean the.
Speaker 5: First match was so was so one of the worst
Speaker 5: rustling I mean, especially after last year. I mean, see
Speaker 5: what you will. Roman and Cody had a pretty good match,
Speaker 5: even the year before he went that horrible finish. They
Speaker 5: had a good match, and then this main event was
Speaker 5: just I mean it was something out of WCW ninety
Speaker 5: nine scene. The scene. I mean, I was shocked how
Speaker 5: bad it was. I'm like, well, it's gonna be not
Speaker 5: that great, but it was. I don't I just see
Speaker 5: other thing. I think people in not admitting scene that
Speaker 5: just can't move anymore.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that's a huge part of it.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean he makes Kerry Funk in his
Speaker 5: sixties look like a twenty year old right now, you know.
Speaker 5: I mean it's crazy and the same thing like I'm
Speaker 5: watching him and this is another guy who's benefiting. I
Speaker 5: said to my friend, remember how much Rick Flair moved
Speaker 5: so much better at his age than he's moving right now.
Speaker 5: I Mean, it's just crazy how he's he's not delivering
Speaker 5: on the promos, and he's certainly not delivering in the ring,
Speaker 5: and I think it's almost like I would almost end
Speaker 5: it at I would have to retire.
Speaker 4: That's when we put this match on the board. That's
Speaker 4: what I thought they were going to do. Interesting, that's interesting.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sure though I'm not sure, But where my
Speaker 4: head's going is in the middle of the match, Sina
Speaker 4: will somehow realize the error of his ways and not
Speaker 4: reciprocate and not hit Cody in the head with the
Speaker 4: belt and knock out somebody that you know is more
Speaker 4: evil than he is, and then do a couple of
Speaker 4: baby face programs to write off into the sunset. And
Speaker 4: I don't think I was always the plan, but you
Speaker 4: just have to damage is being done here, Like seem
Speaker 4: Punk's not going to be the same. Yeah, Seampunk went
Speaker 4: the same thing La Night went through when he lost
Speaker 4: to Roman and Versaudi.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I I it is that bad, huh,
Speaker 3: Like Seampunk is really suffering from well, I just I
Speaker 3: just you know.
Speaker 4: The big thing ever since he came back is when
Speaker 4: is he finally gonna get a title shot? And this
Speaker 4: is how they did it. Yeah, when ninety percent of
Speaker 4: the story is John Cena saying things that Phil Brooks
Speaker 4: wouldn't want him to say, Like that's really how you
Speaker 4: leverage the fact that like one of the fewtuips you
Speaker 4: have left to play is seeing Punk finally wins the
Speaker 4: big one.
Speaker 5: I don't know, and you know, you know, I keep
Speaker 5: forgetting how long ago twenty eleven was, but it was
Speaker 5: a long time ago, and that feud is a lot
Speaker 5: of people's childhoods, who who have become laps or whatever,
Speaker 5: you know, like their version of lapse, and to bring
Speaker 5: it back, I think it meant a lot to a
Speaker 5: lot of younger fans. And I know for a fact
Speaker 5: that my friends just felt utterly miserable and betrayed about
Speaker 5: how the fact that they had in Saudi Arabia and
Speaker 5: the fact that it was that dad of a match
Speaker 5: and he stopped watching again, and it's like, man, this
Speaker 5: could have been something special and you blew it.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's going to go down as a
Speaker 4: very strange, complicating legacy thing for John Cena, I think.
Speaker 4: And well, Boss, it's not like we didn't call.
Speaker 3: It, no, I mean, that's that's been since day won
Speaker 3: They they have they have screwed the pooch on this
Speaker 3: fucking on this heel turn. It's been there.
Speaker 4: There are two or three things that John Cena needed
Speaker 4: to be willing to do in terms of character for
Speaker 4: this to work, and if he wasn't willing to do them,
Speaker 4: you don't do the heel turn. And it's factly been
Speaker 4: vindicated in that regard. I mean, I'm not trying to
Speaker 4: say that the business is down to zero, but Cody
Speaker 4: is so cold now. As a result, Punk is colder
Speaker 4: now anyone that's cross Sina. Randy's stayed kind of hot.
Speaker 4: But Randy's always going to sort of be, you know,
Speaker 4: he always gonna float right beneath that top level. While sorry,
Speaker 4: why you can't hurt him, he also can't help him
Speaker 4: all that much to get him over the top to
Speaker 4: be somebody that, you know, really is the main attraction
Speaker 4: on the product. He just never been that guy, and
Speaker 4: I don't think he's ever going to be that guy.
Speaker 5: But go ahead, Ry, Yeah, no, I'll tell you. Also,
Speaker 5: I did god effect about this is jay Us.
Speaker 4: Another great exent.
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I went to Vegas at the
Speaker 5: last second, my friend the ticket.
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Did go and Jays came out a night one and
Speaker 5: do you get I don't know how it came across
Speaker 5: on TV. I'll be honest when I when I'm on TV,
Speaker 5: it's it's torture watching this guy walk out. But live
Speaker 5: in the building, it is a party and everyone was
Speaker 5: going with nuts. And when he won the belt, and
Speaker 5: I said to my friend, because the crowd is dead
Speaker 5: for like two hours, I'm like, I go, like, they
Speaker 5: should have made him wait to win the belt. This
Speaker 5: guy is kind of like when you see it live,
Speaker 5: You're like, I think this guy might be the guy.
Speaker 5: I know, like a lot of older fans don't like it.
Speaker 5: I don't like it, but he might be the guy.
Speaker 5: And they've also kind of like downgraded him for the
Speaker 5: scene of push and for the gun through Push, and
Speaker 5: now for Goldberg, the Goldberg could actual retire to match
Speaker 5: without the belt. You know, you've just kind of cooled
Speaker 5: down a lot of people with this heel turn. And again,
Speaker 5: it's not like you had a blueprint of how to
Speaker 5: do it right and how to do it wrong. With
Speaker 5: hold Hogan, you had the blueprint of how to do
Speaker 5: it right at the start and not not to fuck
Speaker 5: up like they did with at Star K ninety seven,
Speaker 5: and they just I mean, if Hogan fucked this, he'll
Speaker 5: turn up this fast, he'd be a face by January
Speaker 5: ninety seven because he would have been like, this doesn't
Speaker 5: work and I'm going back to face. It would to
Speaker 5: rout his legacy. I mean, it's legacy is already ruined.
Speaker 5: But you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, the the key thing with
Speaker 3: Hogan though, and I mean, you know, it comes down
Speaker 3: to they when Hogan turned heel, what also made it effective?
Speaker 3: Like if he came back out, if he came out
Speaker 3: the next you know, two weeks or whatever it was
Speaker 3: after after Bash of the Beach and Hogan came out
Speaker 3: in the red and yellow, it would have been a
Speaker 3: complete disaster. It's a very simple thing. Sena needed to
Speaker 3: change his entire look.
Speaker 4: And they at the box, I was saying, if he's
Speaker 4: not willing to check that box, yeah, that's it's a
Speaker 4: non starter.
Speaker 5: It's well rollins changes. Look, he's still doing this stupid
Speaker 5: singing and he's the supposed to be the biggest heel
Speaker 5: in the company as besides seeing them, you know.
Speaker 3: It's just you know, he he I mean, we we
Speaker 3: said it that he should have come out completely different.
Speaker 3: He should have come out shaved head, completely bald, full beard,
Speaker 3: in a suit and just you know, the the the
Speaker 3: antithesis of what we think John Cena. Because the funny
Speaker 3: thing is is that, you know, the the he comes
Speaker 3: out and he says, you know, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: change because you know, because you guys want me to change,
Speaker 3: so I'm going to stay the same. And it's like, well,
Speaker 3: not exactly anymore, because the people who you're actually getting,
Speaker 3: you know, who are excited about you, are people who
Speaker 3: liked what the way you look like you you actually
Speaker 3: need to change to get them to dislike you.
Speaker 4: Like you think. There's that much layers to the fans
Speaker 4: reaction to you that they're thinking, Okay, this is the
Speaker 4: exact same appearing John Cena that I cheered for twenty years,
Speaker 4: But I'm going to boo him because he's dressing that
Speaker 4: way because I want him to dress differently. No, these
Speaker 4: people go to one show a year, and when John
Speaker 4: Cena comes out, if he looks like the John Cena
Speaker 4: they remember cheering, they're gonna cheer him to act like
Speaker 4: they weren't cheering johnsena wildly for ten years before. This
Speaker 4: is so stupid, the music, everything. I mean, Jack and
Speaker 4: I said from the beginning, he after he turned heel,
Speaker 4: he should have been off TV. He should have been
Speaker 4: off TV until WrestleMania, not with single promo. And you
Speaker 4: know that was obviously also before the whole you know,
Speaker 4: when Rock was supposed to be a part of it,
Speaker 4: and you know we were like rock should come out,
Speaker 4: and I believe that rock should come out.
Speaker 3: Every time that they that they advert.
Speaker 4: Somebody else that this John Cena hill turn fucked all up.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he he does. He ruined it completely. It's
Speaker 3: really his fault when it comes down to it, because
Speaker 3: you know, if John Seen, they advertised John Seen to
Speaker 3: come in all these different places and then he know
Speaker 3: shows and Rock comes in and is his is his mouthpiece,
Speaker 3: and it would have been phenomenal to have him come
Speaker 3: out and be his mouthpiece and say that John's too
Speaker 3: busy to come out. John's too busy to make these appearances.
Speaker 3: He had he had a last minute movie deal, like
Speaker 3: do the whole Hollywood thing, and they and they just didn't.
Speaker 3: They just He's just John Cena being a dick. And
Speaker 3: that's not fun, you know, and that's not interesting.
Speaker 5: He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno
Speaker 5: and JP Soorro.
Speaker 4: He's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast.
Speaker 5: The other mistake that made is if they knew for
Speaker 5: a fact like Rock's not coming back, Sina should have
Speaker 5: if you're gonna have seen it come out immediately, have
Speaker 5: seen it kind of right off the rock, be like,
Speaker 5: you know, hey, I'm done with the Rock, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean? Like, I don't know how you would
Speaker 5: have had him to say it, but make it clear
Speaker 5: the audience the Rock isn't coming out again, because I
Speaker 5: think I think the other reason that hurt Russell MANI
Speaker 5: is people are waiting for the Rock.
Speaker 4: Of course they were, yeah, because that was part of
Speaker 4: what was magical. I mean, look, you said before Boss
Speaker 4: on this show, you know I haven't watched week week
Speaker 4: in weeks. Go back to our live call. Speaking of
Speaker 4: live calls, go back to our live call of Elimination
Speaker 4: Chamber when Seena turn heel. It's a top TLF moment
Speaker 4: when we react to that, And as you're sitting there,
Speaker 4: are you telling is there a chance that you're watching
Speaker 4: week to week because they did something that monumental. Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 4: I mean there's not a fan of complain that you
Speaker 4: would stop watching after that. I mean it was so
Speaker 4: if to be completely honest, the next morning and I
Speaker 4: never do this, and you know, we're hungry.
Speaker 3: I was hungry. I was hungry for more and I
Speaker 3: were hungry again, yes, and I was, and I was
Speaker 3: looking for all, you know, information I watched the morning
Speaker 3: after Elimination Chamber. I sat watching the goddamn uh press
Speaker 3: conference after because I wanted to. I wanted more information.
Speaker 3: The first time I've wanted more in so long I
Speaker 3: can't even say with the last time. I really wanted
Speaker 3: that much more where I even sat through Paul and
Speaker 3: his fucking press conference for God's sake, and like, and
Speaker 3: that was it. Like I was really really excited. And
Speaker 3: and then I got excited about the idea that he
Speaker 3: better not show up on television, because that, to me,
Speaker 3: was much more exciting. Hogan didn't show up on television
Speaker 3: for a while, and I think that would have been
Speaker 3: better if he just was gone, and it would have
Speaker 3: created so much intrigue. In the first time we see
Speaker 3: him is when he's coming down for his championship match
Speaker 3: against Cody Rhodes ough been great.
Speaker 4: I stand with hol didn't started to coming out every week.
Speaker 4: It started a weaken as that's Hogan in general. After
Speaker 4: I turned to Betch to the Beach ninety six, you
Speaker 4: didn't he showed him like two weeks later, weeks later
Speaker 4: and he was gone for three weeks and he was
Speaker 4: back because he's over you, you know. But now no
Speaker 4: scenes has got merch to move. And you know how
Speaker 4: how ironic you go from wanting more for the first
Speaker 4: time in memory yep, to we're not even considering going
Speaker 4: to Summer Slam as part of our August third live
Speaker 4: show at Comedy Village in Times Square.
Speaker 3: And you know, the irony is that the merch would
Speaker 3: have sold. It's like seeing if this is whether he's
Speaker 3: wearing it or not. Nobody gives a shit. You can
Speaker 3: tell him like you can. You can post all these
Speaker 3: things on so many different more you know, places to
Speaker 3: sell a T shirt then than just on him wearing
Speaker 3: it on TV.
Speaker 4: He listen, he turned heel and he comes out every
Speaker 4: week wearing the Farewell Tour short shirt for your city
Speaker 4: in the colors of your local football or baseball teams.
Speaker 4: That's that's what they went with and it's just a disaster.
Speaker 4: It's a disaster in his fucking stations. Everyone would buy it.
Speaker 4: It's like, you know, I think about it like this.
Speaker 4: I remember when Rock was you know, back in my
Speaker 4: two thousand and Rock was telling the T shirts that
Speaker 4: finally the Rock has come back to whatever your city
Speaker 4: is on the back of his shirt. He wasn't wearing
Speaker 4: that fucking shirt on television. He wouldn't wear that, but
Speaker 4: everyone was buying it. The same fucking thing, the same thing.
Speaker 5: You don't mean, block lesser at Suplex City shirts in
Speaker 5: every arena, and I remember going to some shows people
Speaker 5: were buying them. He didn't walk out with those shirts,
Speaker 5: just walk out with That's only a few years ago,
Speaker 5: and that's when the show was still garbage and they
Speaker 5: had that figured out. Some reason, they forgot how to
Speaker 5: do that.
Speaker 4: It's why people keep turning to us like a flower
Speaker 4: to the sun, you know, because no matter how much
Speaker 4: they think this thing's back on the rails, they'll eventually
Speaker 4: do something that will remind you that the superstructure of
Speaker 4: our modern situation will not allow wrestling to be as
Speaker 4: good as it used to be, not as enthralling of
Speaker 4: a viewing experience as it used to be, not as
Speaker 4: anticipatory of a thing, but more of just like a
Speaker 4: debate society Twitter game, you know, which you know keeps
Speaker 4: fan interest and holds it. But not only people aren't
Speaker 4: even people aren't even waiting for moments. They're trying to
Speaker 4: make moments. They're trying to call everything epic. They're trying
Speaker 4: to call every woman who works in the business iconic.
Speaker 4: And they're trying to just decide before anyone decides anything,
Speaker 4: we'll have any staying power that what we just saw
Speaker 4: was amazing and phenomenal, and maybe I'll be this this
Speaker 4: wrestler's favorite fan. It's a strange set of affairs. It's
Speaker 4: why we're lapsed. It's why we're taking the stage at
Speaker 4: high noon in August third at the Comedy Village three
Speaker 4: poin fifty two West forty fourth Street. Your coach chairman
Speaker 4: just gonna chop it up with you. Buy a ticket,
Speaker 4: Let's chop it up. Let's come to terms with the
Speaker 4: fact that we can't fully sever ourselves. You ended up
Speaker 4: going to Mania Ray that's the lesson. Yes, tell me
Speaker 4: why you And what does that say?
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it says that like when the push came
Speaker 5: to shove, I was just like, I gotta be there.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what I realized.
Speaker 5: I don't think WrestleMania is meant for TV anymore. I
Speaker 5: think it's more like it's basically going to a festival.
Speaker 5: Like the matches all sought. But we had a great
Speaker 5: time because we were just there hanging out in the
Speaker 5: town and stuff, like, you know, we went to the
Speaker 5: Sinos later and stuff. But yeah, yeah, it's a disease.
Speaker 5: It's a disease, and the disease continues Summer Slam.
Speaker 4: You yeah, you know, sometimes you got to go see
Speaker 4: a doctor, you know, if you're dealing with a chronic disease.
Speaker 5: But I will say this, let me just say this
Speaker 5: to the to the fans. If you are a fan,
Speaker 5: if you are someone a lapse fan fan, and you
Speaker 5: have a ticket the Summer Slim, you can't let it
Speaker 5: go and you're like, oh am I going to be
Speaker 5: able to get to the stadium in time? You are, Yes,
Speaker 5: you're right by the New Jersey Railroad. That's that right
Speaker 5: underneath Mass Square Garden. You're gonna get there in three seconds. Now,
Speaker 5: how are you going to get back. I don't know.
Speaker 5: Hopefully they resolve the problem, but a disaster, yeah, you
Speaker 5: will be able to get there if you do want to.
Speaker 5: And I you know, and I think if you are
Speaker 5: going to Summer Slam, if you don't like blacks Fan,
Speaker 5: you should go to this party, get drunk, enjoy the show,
Speaker 5: then go to Summer Slam and complain about on the internet.
Speaker 5: Because I'm scar.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. You'll enjoy SummerSlam better afterwards, that's
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 5: Yes, So it isn't it scary that this is like
Speaker 5: the biggest risk. I think this is the biggest risk
Speaker 5: they've ever taken with the Summer Slam brand name. And
Speaker 5: we have no idea what the card is. It's a
Speaker 5: less than a month away, and it almost feels either
Speaker 5: just gonna have ass will be put together the card.
Speaker 4: Yeah, not only not only do we not know what
Speaker 4: the card is, but we don't even have any matches
Speaker 4: we feel like are being set up for SummerSlam.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't have like anything that we're excited about.
Speaker 5: Like there's no like, well maybe seam Punk could fight
Speaker 5: this guy or so, you know, it just feels like
Speaker 5: they're just gonna do this to do it, and I
Speaker 5: don't know I would have. I would have been punning
Speaker 5: seeds for the show as like back in April.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they would have too. But the problem is
Speaker 4: we we we were in full reaction mode to everything
Speaker 4: AW does, so we're we're not in control of our
Speaker 4: booking anymore because we have to come up with all
Speaker 4: these bullshit dates to counteract anything they put on the
Speaker 4: schedule because you know, we're so much bigger than they are.
Speaker 4: That's really been a bad luck this year. I don't
Speaker 4: know if it's Nick Con, I'm sure it's some people
Speaker 4: Triple Ah. This is a bad situation where they're trying
Speaker 4: to like flood markets like wherever they go and just
Speaker 4: like like nip at their heels, like, what are you
Speaker 4: guys doing.
Speaker 3: Ruining my life?
Speaker 4: Right?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 4: God, it forces them to book things on gates that
Speaker 4: make no sense. There's no reason for Goldberg's retirement match
Speaker 4: to be on fucking Saturday nights main event other than
Speaker 4: the fact that they need something that's going to make
Speaker 4: people watch that show instead of All In.
Speaker 3: And there's no reason to have fucking four fucking you know,
Speaker 3: non premium live events on a fucking month for God's sake,
Speaker 3: wor Basically.
Speaker 5: There's three pay per views this week in w W.
Speaker 5: I mean, if you counts, I can't.
Speaker 4: I can't XP.
Speaker 5: And the thing about the crazy thing about is that
Speaker 5: AW hasn't been particularly good this year, I think, so
Speaker 5: for you to be going this nuts against them, it
Speaker 5: almost takes people who don't watch AW be like, am
Speaker 5: I missing something really good this year? Why are you
Speaker 5: doing this? Like? I kind of think you kind of
Speaker 5: just let Tony confole in his face Bike, You don't
Speaker 5: need to do anything, You're right?
Speaker 4: Yeah, well are you afraid to let them have a night?
Speaker 3: To them? Else? Like? It makes you It makes you
Speaker 3: really really think honestly, it makes you think, who's really
Speaker 3: pulling the strings back there? I know, because this sounds
Speaker 3: like a lot like somebody else who supposedly is not
Speaker 3: in the company anymore.
Speaker 4: Who might just be like who might just take the
Speaker 4: stage August third, who likes to be honest?
Speaker 3: Ship I I I picture the text that go but
Speaker 3: that go on Okay, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 3: one letter words going on to a lot of different
Speaker 3: people back there, putting, you know, pitting people against each
Speaker 3: other in in the w WE. From one one individual
Speaker 3: who's getting his dick.
Speaker 5: Sucked the whole cm Punk John Cena build, and that
Speaker 5: match felt like Vince book the whole thing. It didn't feel.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well wait, when Sena came out, well, pardon me,
Speaker 4: when Punk came out dressed as thug life John Cena,
Speaker 4: I was like, Nope, that's it. We've lost someone's lost
Speaker 4: their grip. Someone has just capitulated to Vince somewhere somehow, Yep, yep, yep,
Speaker 4: because this.
Speaker 5: Is stuff Fence would have made him do. How'd he
Speaker 5: come back in twenty nineteen? This is all stuff Fence
Speaker 5: would have made this guy do.
Speaker 4: He make him do is exactly right, make him do?
Speaker 4: And that's where we're at. And yeah, but you know,
Speaker 4: and if you've been following us, you would know that
Speaker 4: that's where we could end up. But there's there was
Speaker 4: a lot of denial along the way because for maybe
Speaker 4: for eighteen months, Vince took his eye off the ball
Speaker 4: so that he could not go to prison. And so
Speaker 4: triple H could you know his his action to figure Federation.
Speaker 3: I was never going to go to prison. Never I
Speaker 3: knew that I already paid off the police, I own
Speaker 3: the courts. Listen, I'm in the White House.
Speaker 5: I mean the fact that is a podcast. Now, let's
Speaker 5: just kind of feel like they're putting all the pieces
Speaker 5: back together.
Speaker 3: Let's not forget I am in the White House.
Speaker 4: Now, wrong, stop the one he's lying.
Speaker 5: No, I got it. I think that one of the
Speaker 5: things we're going to find out years from now is
Speaker 5: that he was giving Trump advice every step of the way,
Speaker 5: every step of the way. Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean it's been published and it hasn't been retracted
Speaker 4: that you know, Vince was one of the few people
Speaker 4: that Trump would take his call and like leave the
Speaker 4: room in the middle of other meetings.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Very simple, very simple, folks. It's this American work. It
Speaker 4: has been right since the beginning. And who's had their
Speaker 4: finger on the pulse the whole time? Your fucking co
Speaker 4: chairs and and and where do you need to be
Speaker 4: to get under the hood and get get sort of
Speaker 4: like a you know, a closed circle. Uh, come to
Speaker 4: Jesus assessment of what the hell is going on? August third,
Speaker 4: exactly August third, Comedy Village. You already know what it is.
Speaker 4: It's a New York state of mind. I don't want
Speaker 4: to let you go ray without asking you other element
Speaker 4: of what they're doing now, and they're doing it again
Speaker 4: SummerSlam weekend. I heard about it right around the time
Speaker 4: that I feel like we decided to do a show
Speaker 4: curiously enough, and last time it was much the same.
Speaker 4: What did you hear about the roast of WrestleMania and
Speaker 4: this idea that they should try to do what we
Speaker 4: did in La.
Speaker 5: Can I tell you? I said to people, they got
Speaker 5: this idea for a Musc and Laps fan. And some
Speaker 5: people are like, no, because they don't understand that people
Speaker 5: listen to you. Guys that shouldn't be that probably don't
Speaker 5: admit they listened.
Speaker 4: To you, especially within Yes, Yes, And I was.
Speaker 5: Like, they could have been doing this for years. They
Speaker 5: could have been doing something like this, and they never
Speaker 5: thought of it until we did it. And let me
Speaker 5: tell you something. You guys packed out that chateau. You
Speaker 5: guys packed it out, and you proved that a post
Speaker 5: WrestleMania event can work. Suddenly, now they're doing it with
Speaker 5: Tony Hank Cliff. They're doing it again, by the way,
Speaker 5: Saturday night in New Jersey, Tony, I listen did you
Speaker 5: I sing the audio the roast? Did you listen to
Speaker 5: the audio of the roast. I feel like that deserves
Speaker 5: like a whole.
Speaker 4: To a good amount of it. That's that's coming, and
Speaker 4: it's coming hard.
Speaker 5: The thing about roast with wrestlers, and the thing is
Speaker 5: is that they think that they can take choking around,
Speaker 5: but they can't. You got the Paul Haymond just is
Speaker 5: livid and angry and he's yelling at Gabriel Glesa, who
Speaker 5: by the way, Grega Glazers the guy sold out Dodger
Speaker 5: State and all by himself. He's a massive star. And
Speaker 5: Paul Haymen is screaming at him like he's a bus
Speaker 5: boy and it's not funny, and it's it's very uncomfortable.
Speaker 5: It actually made me.
Speaker 4: The insecurities come out big time when they're on the
Speaker 4: stage with somebody and more interesting than they are big time.
Speaker 5: Yes, between Hayman's reaction to that roast and him not
Speaker 5: really commenting when Sabu died and the way Sabu died,
Speaker 5: I really want you guys, and I know JP's gonna
Speaker 5: get god No to a deep dive on E. C W.
Speaker 5: And I guarantee you there's something there that's gonna expose
Speaker 5: Paul Hayman and send them to prison because I can't
Speaker 5: stand this fucking guy after that fucking roast. He's a
Speaker 5: fucking comment. He fooled all those guys. He basically, you know,
Speaker 5: he was Vince's bitch the entire time. And I have
Speaker 5: a theory now, and I don't know if you guys
Speaker 5: ever have ever said this, but if you notice, CCW
Speaker 5: came along and he got into a e c W
Speaker 5: when Vince was on trot, and sometimes I think Vince
Speaker 5: put him there. Maybe you guys think I'm crazy, Maybe
Speaker 5: some ECW fix but he sold everyone this bullshit lifestyle
Speaker 5: and this bullshit and he had some of these guys
Speaker 5: mortgage their homes. Uh Tamulin sitch when the credit card
Speaker 5: and it was all lies. It was all bullshit. And
Speaker 5: the moment the con was no longer good, he ran
Speaker 5: to raw and he's been sitting there ever since. We
Speaker 5: gotta pretend this guy is a good promo. We gotta
Speaker 5: pretend this guy gets anyone over. He gets nobody over.
Speaker 5: Rock Leicester would have been over with her without him anyway. Sorry,
Speaker 5: what about All Roman need to do is turn heel?
Speaker 5: How did he was just stand there like a fat pig?
Speaker 4: What about Curtis?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all Curtis Axel, remember they put him with
Speaker 5: Czarro and there was but he is such I uh.
Speaker 5: And then and also when he yelled at somebody at
Speaker 5: the Pack mcavee and the fact that Knight wanted Russell
Speaker 5: and he ended with him, I just like.
Speaker 4: Fucking Deck at the Hall of Fame. I was like,
Speaker 4: this guy is kind of losing it. Yeah, there's some
Speaker 4: wall closing in somewhere in this guy's life.
Speaker 3: Listen. He believes his own hype and that's a problem.
Speaker 5: But I really do think that he spent You know,
Speaker 5: so many guys, including Saboo, suffered and died because of
Speaker 5: ECW and none of them knew that he was in
Speaker 5: Vince's pate ok at the entire time. And to me,
Speaker 5: it's like he and he's never really done anything to
Speaker 5: make it up for these guys. I don't I don't know,
Speaker 5: do you guys agree with me with this? I just
Speaker 5: the longer time passes what he does.
Speaker 4: I think he thrived in an environment where all those
Speaker 4: guys also thought. I mean, you know, with the exception
Speaker 4: of the mid to lower card guys who would get
Speaker 4: no other work in the business, and so they really
Speaker 4: had to wear that thing on their on their sleeves
Speaker 4: so they could get work. Saboo was just as much
Speaker 4: of a manipulator as anybody else.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 4: That's why that's why I think he and Paul butted
Speaker 4: heads so firmly, was because Saboo thought he could out
Speaker 4: manipulate Paul, you know, and yeah, and kind of play
Speaker 4: him against others and and and and take bigger paydays
Speaker 4: and have Paul come come crying back, which you played
Speaker 4: pretty much did what you pretty much did. You know,
Speaker 4: Paul had to do a lot of verbal gymnastics to
Speaker 4: make it seem like it was sort of his good
Speaker 4: graces in the ECW fan's decision to bring back Saboo
Speaker 4: as opposed to him really really wanting seb I mean,
Speaker 4: Sambo at one point made the remark, I remember hearing
Speaker 4: he rate made the remark that, you know, Paul's kind
Speaker 4: of got like a homo erotic thing for me. It
Speaker 4: seems like because it's like this these ties that bind
Speaker 4: that should have been snapped, and all the way through
Speaker 4: to you know, the resurrection of ECW and WWE and Paul,
Speaker 4: you know, counseling Sabo, as we talked about on the
Speaker 4: tribute on how to get Fonsie in how to Get
Speaker 4: the Best Payday, pushing him pretty strongly on sci Fi
Speaker 4: when Paul had some semblance of the book over there.
Speaker 4: So it wasn't like, you know that re relationship disintegrated
Speaker 4: to the point of no return. But I just think that,
Speaker 4: you know, it was a great environment for someone like
Speaker 4: a Paul Hayman to operate in because he was he
Speaker 4: was dealing with people who hadn't succeeded more than he had,
Speaker 4: and so you know, he was able to he was
Speaker 4: able to match them wit for wit and trying to
Speaker 4: get more out of them than they were really being
Speaker 4: fairly compensated to provide. Whereas when he's when with Charles
Speaker 4: w c W, you know, it's it's it's scandals around,
Speaker 4: you know, gimmicking up expenses on the road and having
Speaker 4: a fight every six months with management and and all
Speaker 4: that bullshit. So it's it's a he's a fascinating guy.
Speaker 4: I mean that that's probably the journey right there. You know,
Speaker 4: when when we lose.
Speaker 5: I do you think you guys said something with Paul.
Speaker 5: But my whole thing with the roast, it felt very
Speaker 5: it didn't you know, I think the modern w WE fan,
Speaker 5: the modern like the nineteen year old, twenty year old
Speaker 5: is year old day they don't really want like race
Speaker 5: chokes against gingerhole. Also, it is kind of weird to
Speaker 5: be shooting in general hole. The guy was fired, you know,
Speaker 5: the guy's probably never gonna work again. I don't know,
Speaker 5: And it kind of came across as weird. The kind
Speaker 5: of came ross. But they're doing it again. I think
Speaker 5: it a roast though, No, because these these wrestlers, like
Speaker 5: did you hear Nia Jackson like basically like basically just
Speaker 5: like shit on Charlotte as a human being.
Speaker 4: Wow, it wasn't It wasn't a roast at all. It
Speaker 4: was just like, yeah, Caddy sort of like it's.
Speaker 3: Just fucking mean, that's amazing. Oh, I got to listen
Speaker 3: to that audio. That sounds great.
Speaker 5: It's I I think it's worthy of an episode of
Speaker 5: The Labs Fan the whole roast, I really do. I
Speaker 5: think it's I think it's worthy of a whole episode
Speaker 5: because it really is like it kind of I don't know,
Speaker 5: it kind of dispelsing the wrestlers a happy family and stuff.
Speaker 5: But yeah, a lot of people that went didn't enjoy it.
Speaker 5: But again they were they're trying to you know, they're
Speaker 5: trying to take something that that we created. I really
Speaker 5: do think that I will. I will put all my money.
Speaker 5: They got the idea from you guys doing this at
Speaker 5: the Comedy Chateau, and you know, hey, listen, great. I'm
Speaker 5: sure they're gonna sell a lot of tickets for the next one,
Speaker 5: but it's not labs Fan. And the thing about labs
Speaker 5: Fan is you're not gonna We're not gonna have wrestlers
Speaker 5: on because number one, they don't they don't they don't
Speaker 5: know how to run with the joke.
Speaker 3: But you guys, they definitely don't know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys are way funnier. It's gonna be a
Speaker 5: way better show seeing you guys before SummerSlam that it
Speaker 5: would be to go to this rows stuff and listen.
Speaker 5: I love Graborg Glacier. I don't really know Tony Hincliff.
Speaker 5: I love Gregory Lacy. He's a great comic and he
Speaker 5: loves wrestling. I mean I used to talk with him
Speaker 5: about Fandango. He made me this is a great story.
Speaker 5: But he had his birthday show at Caroline and I
Speaker 5: was the manager and I played the Fandangle theme in
Speaker 5: the lounge and he paused, and he said, can you
Speaker 5: put on that? This is twenty thirteen? Can you put
Speaker 5: on the fandangle theme? And I put it on and
Speaker 5: he fandangoed for five minutes on stage and a lot
Speaker 5: of people and he said, this is a wrestling thing.
Speaker 5: Dance with me, and he started making everyone dance with him.
Speaker 5: Was a great moment, and he loves wrestling. You know.
Speaker 5: I just think the way if he tries to joke
Speaker 5: around with these wrestlers, they're just gonna get racist and
Speaker 5: and just cool and mean. And they don't know how
Speaker 5: to have fun or they know how to nail it
Speaker 5: break their bodies, and.
Speaker 4: They don't know that's exactly right because to them, like
Speaker 4: part of the reason they're successful is at some point alone,
Speaker 4: the way they cut somebody down behind their back, right, Yes,
Speaker 4: And that breeds a certain guardedness that just can't thrive
Speaker 4: in an environment like a comedy stage. You just can't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the thing about it is that I
Speaker 5: think they probably think that they're a bigger deal than
Speaker 5: someone like Gabriel Glacier down deep like oh I did.
Speaker 5: But hey, he by himself sold out Dodger Stadium he
Speaker 5: wasn't on a card with other wrestlers, he didn't have
Speaker 5: to have an angle with Andre the Giant. He did
Speaker 5: it all by himself. But I think sometimes that eats
Speaker 5: away at these wrestlers that a comedian could do that.
Speaker 4: You know, that's fascinating.
Speaker 5: I can fill out a room just by myself talking
Speaker 5: into a mic for two hours.
Speaker 4: So what do you say, bos, Should we stop in
Speaker 4: on the Hingecliffe thing and stay up till two in
Speaker 4: the morning the night before we do our live show
Speaker 4: so we can have some commentary?
Speaker 3: I mean, fuck it? Why not?
Speaker 5: Oh he didn't say no?
Speaker 4: Ray?
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Hey maybe go in h listen.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be hurting anyway, all right, it's going to
Speaker 3: be a life while it's going to be a weekend
Speaker 3: of just pain and suffering, like fucking just needles in
Speaker 3: my body for the whole fucking week. Make it worse.
Speaker 5: Plus, my favorite mini episodes was when you guys went
Speaker 5: to the Undertaker one Dead Man Show Undertaker JP. You
Speaker 5: have because I listened to his podcast now because I'm
Speaker 5: a fucking misogynist. I'm misogynous, different difference, and man, you
Speaker 5: nailed him to a t. He is such a blow Hard.
Speaker 5: He has no good stories. I get the sense he
Speaker 5: didn't like Paul Bear. I get the sense he does
Speaker 5: like anybody. Yeah, miserable blow Hard. That basically his whole
Speaker 5: life is. You have to see how great he is even.
Speaker 3: You know, just I just you know, I just I.
Speaker 3: Whenever whenever the I hear a reference to the to
Speaker 3: a stupid fucking show, I I I always just picture
Speaker 3: him in his hoodie and just walking around the stage
Speaker 3: doing nothing. And I was like, that to me was
Speaker 3: the epitome of what this is. This guy does not
Speaker 3: know what he's doing. He's he's got nothing, there is
Speaker 3: nothing in there, and it was just it was just awful,
Speaker 3: which is why he's perfect for the right.
Speaker 5: Every story on this podcast is the if he tells
Speaker 5: her about the past, the wrestler in the story looks
Speaker 5: like an idiot, including Hulk Hogan, and he looks like
Speaker 5: a genius, or he looks at mister Cool or the
Speaker 5: fonnds and I'm like, I guarantee you it didn't go
Speaker 5: down like that. And the other reason I just tells
Speaker 5: you everything about this guy. I know he has a
Speaker 5: new and now now Michelle mcpoole's his co host, he
Speaker 5: had some guy in his own version. He never once
Speaker 5: has ever started the show like this is my co host,
Speaker 5: or said his name, or said hey, Kelin Kane's on
Speaker 5: the show. The show just starts and there's this other
Speaker 5: voice on and he never once tells you who this
Speaker 5: guy is. And to me, that says to me, because
Speaker 5: you don't consider this guy a human being. He's just
Speaker 5: a means to an end like everyone else is.
Speaker 4: In your brother, I think, what a good way to
Speaker 4: do that. We'll just start in talking.
Speaker 5: You know who is this guy? How do you know him?
Speaker 5: Telling me? Fourteen fifteen episodes in I have no idea
Speaker 5: what this guy came from.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he had the podcasts that he had
Speaker 4: the fucking ted talk thing on his face, and his
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame speech that abortion, that was his Hall
Speaker 4: of Fame speech, and he has you know, he said
Speaker 4: clearly which was clearly meant to be the Hall of
Speaker 4: Fame speech to end Hall of Fame speeches. That was
Speaker 4: like supposed to be the greatest fucking Hall of Fame
Speaker 4: speech of all time, and it just sucked. It was
Speaker 4: like it was so bad that I can't even imagine
Speaker 4: that I saw what I saw in retrospect, I can't
Speaker 4: imagine that he thought he was gonna launch basically a
Speaker 4: Tony Robbins gimmick, you know, for the second half of
Speaker 4: his life. And now here he is in a warehouse somewhere,
Speaker 4: shooting for ane, pretending to teach people how to bump,
Speaker 4: and and and and having a podcast that no one
Speaker 4: asked for. He's the ultimate guy that his second his
Speaker 4: second act in life is doing a series of things
Speaker 4: no one asked him to.
Speaker 5: Do exactly exactly because nobody nobody. Once you kind of
Speaker 5: reveal that you don't because he said about I don't
Speaker 5: even remember half of what happened, what.
Speaker 4: I was going, right, if I wasn't the best person.
Speaker 5: And you know, when you have to hear someone talk
Speaker 5: for an hour a week, or you guy's case, seventeen
Speaker 5: hours a week on average, you kind of get a
Speaker 5: sense of who It's almost like you can't hide who
Speaker 5: you are if you're gonna be if you're gonna talk
Speaker 5: that long, you can't hide who you are. And you know,
Speaker 5: Bruce Purchet's full of shit. But I kind of get
Speaker 5: the sense, like, all right, this is kind of a
Speaker 5: likable bullshitter, but guys an Undertaker and even mcfoley and
Speaker 5: Matt Hardy and even for an Angle, but just become
Speaker 5: you start to resent them. You just feel like, yeah, God,
Speaker 5: you have nothing, You have nothing to offer the world.
Speaker 4: We need self deprecation, right, yeah, right, until they sit,
Speaker 4: right until they come out and tell a story that's
Speaker 4: very unflattering about themselves. Right, we're sitting there with our
Speaker 4: hands in our pockets, right because you're telling us stories
Speaker 4: about a bunch of people who aren't here to react, right,
Speaker 4: instead of telling us stories that we know only you
Speaker 4: uniquely can tell, because you're giving us an insight into
Speaker 4: your psychology in the moment.
Speaker 3: That that is the key. If you can like it's
Speaker 3: you're you can't really you can't have a podcast like that,
Speaker 3: or really, I mean for most podcasts unless you're doing
Speaker 3: unless you're doing a a some kind of a historical
Speaker 3: like strictly historical podcast or whatever. You really cannot do
Speaker 3: a podcast where you create yourself as as as this
Speaker 3: star without being able to be self deprecating. You can't.
Speaker 3: You can't. You can't do that and not make fun
Speaker 3: of yourself. You have to be you have to talk
Speaker 3: like make fun of yourself. Otherwise it's otherwise you're an
Speaker 3: idiot and you look like a dick, and they come
Speaker 3: from a business where if you, if you're like that,
Speaker 3: you're giving your enemies the rope to hang you with, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, it's like where where the really the the idea,
Speaker 3: the the truth is, you're you're an essentially essentially hanging
Speaker 3: yourself before anyone else can do it. If you if
Speaker 3: you actually just fucking lay it in on yourself like you're,
Speaker 3: you're doing it before anyone else can. And that's fine.
Speaker 4: And Jeff gets that, and Jeff gets that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the thing about it is is like I
Speaker 5: kind of had no real opinion of Undertaker as a person.
Speaker 5: I like the character, and he's had a lot of
Speaker 5: great matches. Sure, you know Bad ninety seven, But now
Speaker 5: I can't think he's a fucking loser. I like him
Speaker 5: talking for two hours a week has Maybe this guy's
Speaker 5: I would never want to hang out with.
Speaker 4: That's why we're lapsed, because yeah, how many times you
Speaker 4: have to say this? If you grow up on souper
Speaker 4: spider Man is in fucking Superman, you don't have to
Speaker 4: come to terms with the fact that he's a fucking
Speaker 4: dipshit when you become an adult, right, you don't have
Speaker 4: to confront that we do as wrestling fans, and that
Speaker 4: makes us uniquely.
Speaker 5: You know what's what's really crazy about modern wrestling though,
Speaker 5: is that, like, you know, like the way wrestlers overshare
Speaker 5: on Twitter and Instagram. Like I think this guy Swerve
Speaker 5: the way Swerve Scott, but his post on Instagram or
Speaker 5: Twitter wherever it is, he just comes across a complete loser.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, you know what magic It's like you went,
Speaker 5: imagine after WrestleMania is six, you go on the computer
Speaker 5: and Ultra Warriors like complaining about data from there.
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's over. I can't follow this, I
Speaker 4: can That's what I'm saying. That's why the system doesn't
Speaker 4: allow wrestling to be as good as it used to be,
Speaker 4: because there's too many ways to bring these guys down
Speaker 4: to earth, right, and they do it to themselves. It
Speaker 4: turns out they get on national television. You think, okay,
Speaker 4: now we can put the phone down. Now, I don't
Speaker 4: need all of this external you know, sort of re reinforcement.
Speaker 4: I don't need it anymore because I've made it. No,
Speaker 4: it's just begun. It's just begun. They've only begun to
Speaker 4: send themselves into a self destructive psychosis around what these people,
Speaker 4: you know, these randoms that they can't stop talking about
Speaker 4: somehow that they're random, they don't mean anything, but every
Speaker 4: other word out of their mouth has something to do
Speaker 4: with it.
Speaker 5: They quote heat, I don't want to say this good day.
Speaker 5: But they constantly go after this one podcaster who I
Speaker 5: think is a loser, and they yell at him for
Speaker 5: his opinions. And this guy. You cannot convince this guy
Speaker 5: that he doesn't matter, because it's like, hey, you just
Speaker 5: wrestled on live TV, and then you go to your
Speaker 5: phone and to yell at me because I don't like
Speaker 5: the show, I must matter. So you're making these people
Speaker 5: think they matter. You know.
Speaker 4: That's all that's left of what it means to be
Speaker 4: a wrestling fan. It doesn't. You can't. You can't get
Speaker 4: wrapped up in it being a real fight anymore. That
Speaker 4: that's impossible. You can't. You can't have favorites anymore because
Speaker 4: everyone has to be uh, you know, because you get
Speaker 4: made fun of for having favorites. So what are we
Speaker 4: doing here?
Speaker 5: Boss?
Speaker 4: What are we doing here?
Speaker 5: Listen? You know what I'll tell you what we're doing.
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what we're doing. Jack and GP. We're
Speaker 5: the biggest party of the summer.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you we're gonna I'll tell you what.
Speaker 3: You know what, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3: This is what it is. Really. Let summer Slam be
Speaker 3: the biggest party of the summer. Okay, that's fine, they
Speaker 3: can have that. We're gonna be the biggest pain of
Speaker 3: the summer.
Speaker 5: Yes. Perfect. By the way, I know you guys need
Speaker 5: a verry funk giveaway to Uh, you want to do
Speaker 5: a SID giveaway. I haven't listened to. I can't believe
Speaker 5: you got that many hours out of SID. By the way,
Speaker 5: don't tell me how you did it.
Speaker 3: But you want to give away the show.
Speaker 5: But you guys should give away something that relates to
Speaker 5: especially your blocks away from his big title win, the
Speaker 5: biggest night of his life, survivor series.
Speaker 3: Night could what it could be? You know, we could
Speaker 3: just get a we get a bunch of I get
Speaker 3: like a you know, a whole pack of Vienna's.
Speaker 4: We could give away the actual vienna is that the
Speaker 4: Church sent us.
Speaker 3: That's just true, that's true. I mean, if we have them.
Speaker 4: Would we Oh my god, so many possibilities. Yeah, maybe
Speaker 4: we'll bring some fun giveaway at him. So that I
Speaker 4: got so much ship around true, we got so much ship,
Speaker 4: oh my god.
Speaker 5: S with Terry Funk and now Sid. I mean, I
Speaker 5: know you did Saboo, but Saboo wasn't as long as Sid.
Speaker 5: So I don't know, something maybe like a rough shirt
Speaker 5: in like the way Sid warks Summerson. Wow, he really
Speaker 5: has a big history in New York City. Summerson in
Speaker 5: ninety one.
Speaker 4: When he had the he always used to say, yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm over that. You know when they'd go when NWA
Speaker 4: when he was with Dan Spivey would go to Philly
Speaker 4: or in the East Coast cities, they would go nuts
Speaker 4: for Sid without him even being pushed as a baby face.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, I'm excited because like so I
Speaker 5: just says I'm a year behind on every podcast I
Speaker 5: listened to a lot, and you you ended Barry Alive
Speaker 5: the last episode I heard. You're like, yeah, we're gonna
Speaker 5: like really talk very briefly about Sid and then uh
Speaker 5: the ninety seven raw or he wins the Belot and
Speaker 5: I'm like, I know that. It's like four months of
Speaker 5: Si wit. How did this balloon into low? Almost as
Speaker 5: long as Terry fun But I'm excited because I do
Speaker 5: love Sid. I do think he's a guy that people
Speaker 5: shot on unnecessarily. He's not as bad as everyone says
Speaker 5: he is, and he had something that really you can't teach.
Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys said that, but he does.
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