1
00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:08,679
Speaker 1: Somebody dot TV new meddle add a strong style.

2
00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:15,759
Speaker 2: Saba Son, you're gonna ring in the bat water. You

3
00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:20,399
going over the top like talking about Salon. Well it's

4
00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:23,239
the laps fan Mann the one in the ring. Forget

5
00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,519
about Osada with a real king of swing when the

6
00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,559
bell goes in and the kick like men throwing in

7
00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,359
the corner with its rash like sting.

8
00:00:30,719 --> 00:00:33,799
Speaker 3: Even Jerry King and take off the crowd nodded.

9
00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,399
Speaker 1: In his head like his tean low Brown were just getting.

10
00:00:36,119 --> 00:00:39,280
Speaker 3: Low down, goat even higher, flipping you on your head.

11
00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:42,840
Speaker 2: But you no cool, drive more knowledge and dragon spits

12
00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,159
fire leave you more.

13
00:00:44,079 --> 00:00:47,159
Speaker 1: Shock than when their tree tire dropping more truth than

14
00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:48,240
the con of sniper.

15
00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:49,799
Speaker 4: Bless you with a Coca nut.

16
00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,079
Speaker 3: Roddy Piper checking JP.

17
00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:54,520
Speaker 1: He like j y D drop the cupcakes and got

18
00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,200
the brain boy means the best podcast Frost start to close,

19
00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,640
clown if you all better fit this floss sick and

20
00:01:00,719 --> 00:01:02,600
polls as play.

21
00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:04,000
Speaker 4: Live is going to take the stage again. This time

22
00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:06,799
we're invading Times Square. There goes the neighborhood boss.

23
00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:08,200
Speaker 3: Oh you're damn right.

24
00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:12,799
Speaker 4: Doing live steps from WWF New York and The co

25
00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,400
Chairman Comedy Village August third, at noon, in no small

26
00:01:16,439 --> 00:01:19,040
part due to our partner in crime. In the past,

27
00:01:19,079 --> 00:01:20,879
when he's put the bat signal up, the co chairs

28
00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,239
have responded and taken a live stage at Philadelphia or

29
00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,040
Los Angeles or New York in.

30
00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:31,120
Speaker 3: This case, all these fucking major major metropolis. This here,

31
00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,480
that's all we do. We don't do small venues. We

32
00:01:33,519 --> 00:01:34,879
only do the big cities.

33
00:01:35,239 --> 00:01:37,599
Speaker 4: Right, yeah, Vegas? Vegas was too small?

34
00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:38,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.

35
00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't have the residency. But Ray Goots is

36
00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:43,640
back with us here. You know him, You love them

37
00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,959
and Ray. First of all, how you doing? Long time

38
00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:47,879
no talk here on the airwaves?

39
00:01:48,439 --> 00:01:51,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know. How's it going, guys? We haven't done

40
00:01:51,079 --> 00:01:52,840
this in over a year, which is good to be

41
00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:53,519
back on the show.

42
00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:56,719
Speaker 3: It's uh, it's it's it's crazy. Why do you keep

43
00:01:56,719 --> 00:01:58,760
doing this to us? You keep making us suffer here?

44
00:02:00,519 --> 00:02:03,239
Speaker 5: You know, I think if SummerSlam wasn't the first two

45
00:02:03,319 --> 00:02:08,000
night extravaganza, I would have had this idea. But it's

46
00:02:08,039 --> 00:02:09,960
a two night extravaganza, and I don't know if people

47
00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:12,280
are going to travel for this because they're not doing

48
00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,080
a good job promoting it. But hey, let's give it

49
00:02:14,120 --> 00:02:14,759
a shot. You know.

50
00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:16,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really know the degree to which kind

51
00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:20,400
of post those early post COVID years like twenty twenty one,

52
00:02:20,479 --> 00:02:22,319
the degree to which people travel to a summer slam.

53
00:02:22,319 --> 00:02:24,159
I guess we're about to find out. But fortunately for

54
00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:26,719
your co chairs, you know, we happen to have known

55
00:02:26,759 --> 00:02:28,479
over the years that we've got a really strong base

56
00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:31,919
in and around the area. For sure, we felt confident

57
00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,800
going going forward and going hard. So raking it. What

58
00:02:36,879 --> 00:02:38,719
can you tell them about what they're going to be

59
00:02:38,759 --> 00:02:40,840
seeing and what they're going to be experiencing. This is

60
00:02:40,879 --> 00:02:44,080
a venue you know quite well here Comedy Village in

61
00:02:44,159 --> 00:02:44,680
Times Square.

62
00:02:45,599 --> 00:02:47,800
Speaker 5: Yes, so this venue actually opened a year ago and

63
00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,719
I helped the owner PJ, get it together. You know

64
00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,000
Times Square. We used to have in Times Square Carolines,

65
00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:59,319
which I was, oh yeah, which was famous venue. So

66
00:02:59,319 --> 00:03:01,599
many people started there, Mike bur Bigley, a Bill Burr,

67
00:03:02,199 --> 00:03:05,479
Paterrees O'Neill being cooked. A lot of people started there

68
00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:07,240
and it went out of business sitting in the twenty

69
00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,719
twenty two and at the time I thought, well, someone

70
00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:12,400
big is gonna come in and take a club, and

71
00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:16,039
nobody did. And my friend PJ was looking for a club,

72
00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,240
and I said to him, you gotta do Midpound. No

73
00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,560
one's doing Midpound. Everyone's all over the place. That's where

74
00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,159
the tourists aren't build up a year ago. It's a

75
00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:25,560
big success. He's got two rooms. You guys will be

76
00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:31,120
in the upstairs room, and it's said, it's the great

77
00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,240
thing about that club is you know now big names

78
00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,080
are going to come for a while. I don't. After

79
00:03:36,479 --> 00:03:39,280
he performed on Glengarry Glenn Ross, when Bill Berg got

80
00:03:39,319 --> 00:03:42,919
off stage, he immediately went to this club and worked

81
00:03:42,919 --> 00:03:45,400
out a special. So he was there every night for

82
00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:46,639
at least a month.

83
00:03:46,479 --> 00:03:49,199
Speaker 4: Or two Hallot halls. So so wow, by the time

84
00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,680
we're done, he'll be the second most famous New England

85
00:03:51,759 --> 00:03:52,439
or to work the club.

86
00:03:52,479 --> 00:03:53,800
Speaker 3: That's right, you damn right?

87
00:03:54,199 --> 00:03:57,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, yes, three fifty two West forty fourth Street.

88
00:03:57,879 --> 00:04:00,439
For those keeping track, Comedy Village dot com to join

89
00:04:00,599 --> 00:04:04,680
us thirty five bucks, to drink minimum food and drink right.

90
00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,759
People can can make plans to satiate themselves in every

91
00:04:08,759 --> 00:04:09,599
conceivable way.

92
00:04:10,479 --> 00:04:13,800
Speaker 5: Yes, so yeah, So the club has food bar like

93
00:04:13,879 --> 00:04:16,600
more like bar food, you know, but it has a

94
00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,439
full menu and they have drinks and you know, you're

95
00:04:19,439 --> 00:04:23,720
gonna want to get plastered. But the other great thing

96
00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:27,319
about this venue is the ease of access to it.

97
00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:29,199
And what I mean by that is, I.

98
00:04:29,199 --> 00:04:31,600
Speaker 4: Mean they don't have to spend six weeks trying to

99
00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,800
assuage people's fears about getting to the Comedy Chateau.

100
00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,279
Speaker 3: We don't have to. We don't have to create carpools

101
00:04:38,319 --> 00:04:39,480
and stuff to get up there.

102
00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,160
Speaker 5: You know, I gotta tell you, you know, the Comedy

103
00:04:43,160 --> 00:04:45,600
Store is such a more I've I've learned now in

104
00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,519
the pastory is the Chateau is like the most reviled

105
00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:50,319
club here in LA.

106
00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:54,199
Speaker 4: But especially after we were done with it, exactly.

107
00:04:54,439 --> 00:04:58,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I'm kind of glad we didn't get the

108
00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,879
Comedy Store two years ago. Beca dude, I cannot find

109
00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,800
parking in West Hollywood. I was supposed to go there

110
00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,079
the other night. I was driving up and down, up

111
00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,000
and down. I think like the show would have had

112
00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,040
to start like three in the morning if we had

113
00:05:10,079 --> 00:05:12,680
gotten the Comedy Store three years ago.

114
00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:15,519
Speaker 4: Wow, I just have to say, well, can you give

115
00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,680
me any tips? Boss? As a former Angelino?

116
00:05:18,879 --> 00:05:21,000
Speaker 3: No, okay, so there you go.

117
00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,959
Speaker 4: You are fucked. That is that's extreally clear. I do

118
00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,360
have to say, though, Ray, when you talk about driving around,

119
00:05:26,399 --> 00:05:29,240
I feel like a proud papa because close listeners will

120
00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,439
know that, really, the only reason you even got your

121
00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,879
license in the first place was that you could drive

122
00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,519
to Philly to book the venue for the co chairs.

123
00:05:36,639 --> 00:05:39,120
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, that was my first dig trip was to

124
00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:42,360
go to Helium because the GM blew me off and

125
00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,199
said maybe we can do it in August or something,

126
00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,920
and nobody cares about WrestleMania. And then I went to

127
00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,879
Punchline Philly and they believed in you. And let me

128
00:05:49,879 --> 00:05:52,399
tell you, I don't know. You know, I'm a year

129
00:05:52,399 --> 00:05:53,920
behind the podcast, so I don't know if you guys

130
00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,839
have talked too much about Philly. But Philly was beyond

131
00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,959
the home run. I mean we had one of the

132
00:05:58,959 --> 00:06:01,120
best clubs. I don't want to say the best club

133
00:06:01,199 --> 00:06:03,639
in Philly. It was the best best club in Philly.

134
00:06:04,079 --> 00:06:06,800
It was packed to the rafters. You guys put on

135
00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,720
a great show. I mean your show last year was

136
00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,439
probably better than WrestleMania. I mean it always is, but

137
00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,279
like that was a home run. That what you guys

138
00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,160
pulled off, what we pulled off, and the fact that

139
00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,759
Punchline Philly believed in us and they gave us so

140
00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:23,680
much support. I thought that, I don't know what you

141
00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,319
guys proud of that show. I was very proud of

142
00:06:25,319 --> 00:06:25,680
that show.

143
00:06:26,759 --> 00:06:31,120
Speaker 3: I've certainly speaking absolutely, I mean in in so many

144
00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:33,519
different ways. I thought it was. It was such a

145
00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,160
great turnout. It was nice. It was a good, uh

146
00:06:36,319 --> 00:06:41,800
sophomore effort, I thought on on on all fronts. It was.

147
00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,600
It was nice to not have to not be completely

148
00:06:45,639 --> 00:06:48,319
freaked out, you know, the whole time, and you know,

149
00:06:48,399 --> 00:06:51,199
hoping to God we could make it on time, uh

150
00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,879
to the place, and uh, yeah it was. It was

151
00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:58,399
a great crowd. And honestly, you know, I'm I'm grateful.

152
00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:00,639
I'm grateful I got my voice back by the time

153
00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,639
that it all panned out. You know. That's that's still

154
00:07:03,879 --> 00:07:06,480
the horror show for me was just the idea of

155
00:07:06,519 --> 00:07:09,399
waking up with that swollen uvula that morning and I

156
00:07:09,439 --> 00:07:12,560
couldn't fucking speak.

157
00:07:14,519 --> 00:07:16,040
Speaker 4: We k fab on that or do we clue you

158
00:07:16,079 --> 00:07:17,600
in on that? I don't remember when we got to.

159
00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,120
Speaker 5: Filled me in on that. You filled me in on that,

160
00:07:19,160 --> 00:07:21,160
and I think it was because you guys were like

161
00:07:21,399 --> 00:07:23,920
into freezing cold while Rock walked to the rain for

162
00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,720
forty minutes right, it.

163
00:07:26,759 --> 00:07:29,360
Speaker 3: Was yeah, I mean it was well yeah, I mean

164
00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,759
who I don't really know what it was exactly, but

165
00:07:31,839 --> 00:07:33,680
I mean, I'll definitely put the cold to part of it.

166
00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480
But it was just it was just so weird to

167
00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,480
wake up like that. And I mean that was just

168
00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,560
a miserable, honest to God, without a doubt, the most

169
00:07:41,759 --> 00:07:46,759
miserable live experience ever had watching wrestling.

170
00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,759
Speaker 4: Oh dude, it was so fuck it. And then and

171
00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:53,759
then to think they were going to Mini the next year,

172
00:07:53,759 --> 00:07:55,720
which of course they didn't, and of course it indoors

173
00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,839
I get it, but that was just It's all people

174
00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,199
could talk about in the needed aftermath was how cold

175
00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,720
it was. So we're just swapping out. We just swapped

176
00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:06,560
out the anxiety of having to run from so far

177
00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:11,639
while Cody counted his tears to waking up in a

178
00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,480
state of can we even do the show in Philly?

179
00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,480
So who knows what awaits us this year in New York.

180
00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,680
But we're proud to say that, you know, because it's

181
00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,399
closer to home turf. We're not even concerning ourselves with

182
00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:23,839
the biggest two night Summer Slam in history in terms

183
00:08:23,839 --> 00:08:26,399
of live attendance and met life We've been to Met

184
00:08:26,399 --> 00:08:29,439
Life plenty of times. Okay, we've got our run of

185
00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,800
the place. But we will of course be able to

186
00:08:31,839 --> 00:08:34,039
take the stage and recap Night one of Summer Slam

187
00:08:34,399 --> 00:08:37,480
and a preview Night two as part of the as

188
00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:39,840
part of the festivities. But yeah, Ray, that's great to

189
00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:42,039
hear about last year. I'm just personally speaking, it was.

190
00:08:42,159 --> 00:08:43,720
It felt like a total home run. It felt like

191
00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:47,960
a real moment where you kind of realize what ten

192
00:08:48,039 --> 00:08:51,120
years gets you, you know, right, yeah, feeling pain?

193
00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:55,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know that's why, like this year, we're

194
00:08:55,080 --> 00:08:57,799
not going to have any any comedians on stage with

195
00:08:57,919 --> 00:09:00,000
you guys. I just think it's better that you guys

196
00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,759
just do your thing and maybe even members of the

197
00:09:02,799 --> 00:09:05,960
Solar System who you know, you guys know well can

198
00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:09,039
chime in and give their opinions and and and and

199
00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:12,000
give you guys something to talk about rather than because

200
00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,200
you know, most comedians were great, but every now and

201
00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,200
then you got a comedian being like, oh what was

202
00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:17,480
he talking like Vince or something?

203
00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,360
Speaker 4: Oh, they have so much to learn?

204
00:09:21,399 --> 00:09:22,960
Speaker 3: Do they do? They do?

205
00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:27,120
Speaker 5: Yeah? So I think it's better like this is you

206
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:28,919
know what this is? Like? This is like remember like

207
00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,399
Vince eventually went like Russell Badie, we don't need the celebrities.

208
00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:36,120
We're the celebrities. That's this, that's this year. That's the

209
00:09:36,159 --> 00:09:38,559
summer Slam Labs fan live show in New York City.

210
00:09:38,639 --> 00:09:42,039
Speaker 3: Yeah listen, I don't listen. We're at the biggest party

211
00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,720
of the summer right there at the Comedy Village.

212
00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,480
Speaker 4: I don't think MTV should buy w w F. I

213
00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:50,039
think w W should buy MTV. I think w should

214
00:09:50,039 --> 00:09:53,600
by w W Well, we're not could be too far

215
00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:55,600
from where they went public and put shares on the

216
00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:59,440
public exchange, right where they converted that that that year

217
00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,559
of year and years of goodwill and cash flow into

218
00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:04,799
into into Wall Street, Cheddar, we'ren't going to be too

219
00:10:04,799 --> 00:10:06,799
far from those tickers. That might be that might be

220
00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,519
a fun little uh uh uh unt little john down

221
00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:12,240
to Wall Street. And this is where Vince were a

222
00:10:12,279 --> 00:10:13,799
black turtleneck and rang the bell.

223
00:10:14,879 --> 00:10:20,080
Speaker 5: Oh my god, oh yeah, that's right there. That that is.

224
00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:22,279
Remember they didn't they have like a ring. They had

225
00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:25,679
like a ring, Oh my god, did right.

226
00:10:25,919 --> 00:10:27,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if it was right on Wall Street,

227
00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:28,840
but it wasn't far away. Yeah, they had some I.

228
00:10:28,799 --> 00:10:30,360
Speaker 5: Mean you guys are gonna be very close to where

229
00:10:30,399 --> 00:10:32,600
Diesel and Lawrence Taylor did the lie workout.

230
00:10:32,879 --> 00:10:34,240
Speaker 4: That's another good call. Look at that.

231
00:10:34,519 --> 00:10:35,919
Speaker 3: There's a lot of there's a lot of good New

232
00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,360
York stuff there, you know.

233
00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:40,320
Speaker 4: And I would be and doing the Coliseum Collection recently.

234
00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,000
I'd be lying if I told you that I did

235
00:10:42,039 --> 00:10:44,360
not write down the address that they used to give

236
00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:47,519
you in the Colosseum videos, like a mile away to

237
00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,159
save your letters and thoughts.

238
00:10:49,519 --> 00:10:53,759
Speaker 5: I'm there. Yeah, that's that's true. That's very very true.

239
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,360
Speaker 4: I'm going have told us. But I'm sure it's a

240
00:10:55,399 --> 00:10:57,279
total ship house whatever it is. But that's that's what

241
00:10:57,279 --> 00:10:58,919
we're here for. That's what we're here to talk.

242
00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,519
Speaker 5: Wasn't there a gym? I remember now you brought back

243
00:11:02,519 --> 00:11:05,159
to Colseum Collection and again I'm still catching up with

244
00:11:05,159 --> 00:11:07,879
everything with you guys. Wasn't there a gym in Times

245
00:11:07,879 --> 00:11:11,639
Square where Rodny Piper worked out before Wrestlemingia one and

246
00:11:11,679 --> 00:11:12,519
they filmed in there.

247
00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:13,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was.

248
00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:16,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think no, But I think there's a gym

249
00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,519
in Midtown. Maybe Hulekgan and mister T worked out there,

250
00:11:19,639 --> 00:11:21,440
But I think that gym is still there in midtown,

251
00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:23,679
so you could, you know, still there and patribu to

252
00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:24,120
the Holster.

253
00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,879
Speaker 3: See if there's any people remember, See if anybody who

254
00:11:27,919 --> 00:11:30,960
works there remembers. I do love doing that with with people,

255
00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:33,159
and see if they have any recollection of these monumental

256
00:11:33,159 --> 00:11:36,879
wrestling events that happened. And nobody does. Yeah.

257
00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,000
Speaker 5: No, By the way, Gleason's gym is still there. That's

258
00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,159
still in Brooklyn. Johnny Rods is still a part of

259
00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:41,600
that place.

260
00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:42,759
Speaker 4: That's amazing.

261
00:11:43,399 --> 00:11:47,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's wonderful. As they were still training wrestlers. I

262
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:48,679
don't know if they you know, I don't know if

263
00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,159
you remember this, if this ever came up in the podcast,

264
00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:53,120
but Vince Russo trained with him for a little bit.

265
00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:53,799
Speaker 3: Oh goodness.

266
00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:59,279
Speaker 4: Yeah there's someone we should drop in on. But he's

267
00:11:59,279 --> 00:12:02,519
as far from the possible these days. He doesn't really

268
00:12:02,799 --> 00:12:04,879
he doesn't really associate anymore with the area. Too many

269
00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,679
enemies perhaps, I don't know, I don't know what it is.

270
00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,120
Speaker 5: Too many enemies, but you know, he's never really you know,

271
00:12:10,159 --> 00:12:12,120
I said this, he's not a New Yorker. He's a

272
00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,840
guy from Long Island, like people from on Island and

273
00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,679
even this cityot Eddie Kingston, who's from upstate New York.

274
00:12:18,759 --> 00:12:20,399
He loved to go, I'm in New York. I no, no,

275
00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,919
you live in the city of New York, all right,

276
00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,600
but I watched you guys are New Yorkers, like I'm

277
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,600
so sick of everyone. And then the youth had excuse

278
00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:30,919
me because all of Vincrusso's excuses why he didn't work

279
00:12:30,919 --> 00:12:33,799
out with Cornett. You didn't I'm a New Yorker. No,

280
00:12:33,879 --> 00:12:35,679
you got you're a fucking loser from Long Island.

281
00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,480
Speaker 3: Hey, he's not wrong. He's not wrong in that. You know,

282
00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,200
you gotta live in a burrow, all right, you gotta

283
00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:43,919
live in a borrow, born and raised in a borough,

284
00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,120
then then you're a fucking New Yorker exactly.

285
00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:50,320
Speaker 5: He's just he's another small town pump pumpkin, just like

286
00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,240
Jim Cornette looks all right, that's the same.

287
00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,399
Speaker 3: You don't see Mick Foley going around saying he's a

288
00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:56,600
New Yorker, all right, he's a long he's a Long

289
00:12:56,679 --> 00:13:03,360
Island all right, a Long Island iced bitch.

290
00:13:04,159 --> 00:13:06,919
Speaker 5: That's right. Yeah, dude, I got One of the reasons

291
00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,840
I left New York was just so many people I

292
00:13:09,879 --> 00:13:13,080
live in La Now updated case any LABS fan fans

293
00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:16,399
were wondering, just so many people like moved to New

294
00:13:16,519 --> 00:13:19,600
York and within a day they start calling themselves New Yorkers,

295
00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:22,320
and they start acting like they're the experts of the city.

296
00:13:22,519 --> 00:13:25,039
Speaker 4: Really really a rough look, really rough.

297
00:13:25,399 --> 00:13:27,240
Speaker 5: And I remember you guys are talking about that on

298
00:13:27,279 --> 00:13:29,879
the nine to eleven episode and JP nailed it, Like

299
00:13:29,919 --> 00:13:32,000
they come to New York and then they just make

300
00:13:32,039 --> 00:13:33,879
that their whole identity, living in New York, and.

301
00:13:33,879 --> 00:13:37,639
Speaker 3: Then it's a miserable, nauseating it's nauseating.

302
00:13:37,919 --> 00:13:43,039
Speaker 4: Yes, m it's very self congratulatory, you know, yes, you know,

303
00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,080
it's like I would move to New York and I'm

304
00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,600
in a running club and and I know a place

305
00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,720
that has good espresso. It's like, you know, that's enough. Okay,

306
00:13:50,759 --> 00:13:55,240
We've moved on as a society from having any cash angry. Okay,

307
00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,039
do you know how to keep your sanity? That's the

308
00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:00,720
only question. I'm glad you mentioned Ray the notion that

309
00:14:00,799 --> 00:14:03,759
you know, just more of an intimate time, you know,

310
00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:05,799
possible here with with the with the members of the

311
00:14:05,799 --> 00:14:09,000
Solar System, because that is something that that that's kind

312
00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,159
of been an identity crisis. You know, it's like we

313
00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:13,440
do these shows and everyone's here to see just a

314
00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,879
live version of us, just chopping it up. And it

315
00:14:15,919 --> 00:14:18,600
always feels like we owe the people so much more

316
00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,159
preparation than that. But I don't know. I think you're right.

317
00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:23,279
I think people just want to be able to wrap

318
00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:25,279
with us and hear top of mind when I hear

319
00:14:25,399 --> 00:14:27,799
the podcast taking the stage that you know that they

320
00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:29,679
do prepare some stuff, and we will prepare some stuff.

321
00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:31,759
Don't make any mistake about that. We can't help ourselves.

322
00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,279
But but you're a solar system. Remember you stepped up

323
00:14:36,279 --> 00:14:39,360
out of nowhere and put this on our plate years ago.

324
00:14:39,559 --> 00:14:41,360
What do they want? What do you think they want?

325
00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,240
Speaker 5: I think I think the great thing about the LAPS

326
00:14:44,279 --> 00:14:47,559
Fan Live is number one. I'm assuming you guys are

327
00:14:47,559 --> 00:14:48,720
doing this. I don't want to speak for you, but

328
00:14:48,759 --> 00:14:51,399
this this will not be of recording.

329
00:14:51,159 --> 00:14:54,519
Speaker 4: Right, That's where we stand. That's where we stand at

330
00:14:54,519 --> 00:14:57,159
the moment. Yes, it's people always need it so bad

331
00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,240
and we always feel so bad, but that's kind of

332
00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:00,000
where we have to listen.

333
00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,039
Speaker 3: There is nobody above the law, that's right. Okay, that's

334
00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:05,240
that's the bottom line.

335
00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,039
Speaker 5: But I think the great thing about going to see

336
00:15:08,039 --> 00:15:11,440
the laps Fan live is that you know. The great

337
00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,440
thing when I you know, because I when I was

338
00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,960
in New York and it's harder over here to do this,

339
00:15:16,039 --> 00:15:17,840
But I would go for two three hour walks just

340
00:15:17,879 --> 00:15:20,240
listening to you guys, right, and I feel like I'm

341
00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,840
in a room with my friends bullshitting about wrestling. These

342
00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,279
are conversations I would happen ninety eight ninety nine that

343
00:15:25,519 --> 00:15:28,240
my friends got lives. And but what I'm saying is

344
00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,519
like these conversations are very much like I feel like

345
00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:33,519
I'm part of a conversation with you guys, even though

346
00:15:33,559 --> 00:15:35,399
I'm not. You guys are like it's I'm a year

347
00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,879
behind as well, so it's a year ago, you're another

348
00:15:37,879 --> 00:15:40,039
part of the country. It is what it is. But

349
00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:43,279
I think being there live and not having you know,

350
00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,240
and I love these guys and I'm not pooping on them,

351
00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:47,279
but not having a comedians step over your words, where

352
00:15:47,279 --> 00:15:49,840
you guys can free flow and bring in the characters

353
00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:53,080
and lab Vince and laps Hogan and playoff whatever's going

354
00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:54,679
on that weekend, because I'm sure it's gonna be a

355
00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,759
newsworthy weekend whether it's a good show or not. That's

356
00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,200
up the need. It's gonna be a newsworthy weekend. I

357
00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,519
think you I think you know it's gonna be really

358
00:16:03,639 --> 00:16:08,799
fun to hear you guys in person freestyle bullshit. And

359
00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,679
I think you know the great thing about you two

360
00:16:11,879 --> 00:16:13,919
is I think of a fan. If you do a

361
00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,039
Q and A or a fan calls out something, it

362
00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,720
could take the show into a totally different direction. Yes,

363
00:16:18,799 --> 00:16:21,559
you know, yep, And you know, I just think there's

364
00:16:21,679 --> 00:16:23,799
when you guys are on, there's like nobody better.

365
00:16:24,519 --> 00:16:27,519
Speaker 4: Do you remember JP when we were in Vegas for

366
00:16:27,679 --> 00:16:30,679
Star Cast two, Yes, and there came a point in

367
00:16:30,759 --> 00:16:33,960
the show where the lapsed Vince was let's say he

368
00:16:34,039 --> 00:16:37,759
was being heard but not seen, okay, And we took

369
00:16:37,799 --> 00:16:40,879
a mic out into the people and we asked them

370
00:16:40,879 --> 00:16:42,440
to ask lapsed Vince questions.

371
00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,279
Speaker 3: I do I remember this, but I don't remember. Go

372
00:16:46,679 --> 00:16:48,200
tell me it, do it?

373
00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,919
Speaker 4: I mean there were you know, I can't say I'm

374
00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,639
gonna recall an exact specific moment. As much as the

375
00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:58,120
general like people were like they loved it. And at

376
00:16:58,159 --> 00:17:00,240
the same time, there were some people there who I

377
00:17:00,279 --> 00:17:04,200
think half ascidly put their hand up and you're like

378
00:17:04,279 --> 00:17:07,480
answering questions about like if if Sasha is getting the

379
00:17:07,519 --> 00:17:11,920
correct push. What a moment to be in a situation

380
00:17:12,039 --> 00:17:14,799
where they missed the lapsed part of the whole thing.

381
00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:18,279
Speaker 3: Right and they're asking like legit questions and it's like, what,

382
00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:20,039
I don't believe.

383
00:17:19,839 --> 00:17:22,359
Speaker 4: Why aren't you pushing? I'm like, you know that's not vincent.

384
00:17:24,759 --> 00:17:28,200
Speaker 5: I don't believe you correctly predicted Cody Rose would go.

385
00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,839
Speaker 4: Back to that was show one before, but he made

386
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,160
several predictions on that one too, that that will come

387
00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:39,440
to fruition eventually. That was the night after John Moxley

388
00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:42,079
went to a W that was the Double or Nothing weekend,

389
00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:44,000
and so he had a lot to say, especially about

390
00:17:44,039 --> 00:17:46,759
Brett coming out with the a W championship, and then

391
00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,160
his ass ended right back under that that tightening is

392
00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,039
you better believe he's he's fee he's feeding again. He

393
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,039
roll his eyes at Triple H. But when they're in

394
00:17:56,079 --> 00:17:58,279
Calgary and the phone rings, guess who's on Guess who's

395
00:17:58,279 --> 00:17:58,759
on a plane?

396
00:17:58,839 --> 00:18:01,079
Speaker 5: You know I you know, I wouldn't be I don't

397
00:18:01,079 --> 00:18:02,519
know if he's coming up for the weekend. I would

398
00:18:02,599 --> 00:18:04,640
not be at all surprised that he was at the

399
00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:06,079
Goldberg Manches.

400
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:07,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, we'll be watching closely.

401
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:12,480
Speaker 5: Are you guys loving Jesse Venturn commentary as much as

402
00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:12,720
I am?

403
00:18:12,759 --> 00:18:17,799
Speaker 3: By the way, I I definitely. I I think I

404
00:18:17,839 --> 00:18:20,599
think even when he's his most annoying, he is a

405
00:18:20,599 --> 00:18:24,720
breath of fresh air on on on on commentary because

406
00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:27,039
he just talks circles around these clowns who have no

407
00:18:27,079 --> 00:18:29,440
idea what the fuck to do, and he's bringing up

408
00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:33,319
it's like, you know, they're so they're so you know,

409
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:38,000
sucked into their into their stupid storytelling that they forget

410
00:18:38,000 --> 00:18:41,440
that there's like real shit that that actually makes real

411
00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:43,480
sense that he's calling out and they have no idea

412
00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,559
what to do with that. They have no idea what

413
00:18:45,599 --> 00:18:48,799
to do when a referee fucking makes a mistake, or

414
00:18:48,839 --> 00:18:52,240
when you know, when someone when when a wrestler does

415
00:18:52,279 --> 00:18:56,079
something bad to somebody else who just did something bad

416
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,279
or whatever, it's like, you know, they have he's got,

417
00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,319
he's got no again and no matter how annoying, and

418
00:19:01,319 --> 00:19:04,960
he can get annoying on commentary, no question, but just

419
00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:07,960
to hear him like he's got such a keen eye

420
00:19:08,559 --> 00:19:11,799
for catching a lot of stuff that I, you know,

421
00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,319
I feel like people like Michael Cole and that fucking

422
00:19:15,519 --> 00:19:20,319
idiot football player have have been trained to not notice,

423
00:19:21,319 --> 00:19:23,920
you know, and it and it and it's it's it's

424
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,759
almost like, oh, yeah, this is what real people fucking

425
00:19:27,319 --> 00:19:29,039
think when they fucking watch this ship.

426
00:19:30,279 --> 00:19:32,759
Speaker 5: One of the greatest moments I think was the Drew

427
00:19:32,839 --> 00:19:35,400
McIntyre walking I mean, I'm sorry, jamiean priest walking out

428
00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,960
of the cage and the fact that Jesse just went

429
00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,799
on how stupid he thought he was, and Pat mcavee

430
00:19:40,960 --> 00:19:44,400
and Michael Cole did not know how to respond to him.

431
00:19:44,599 --> 00:19:47,400
They it's almost sounded like robots malfunctioning.

432
00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:47,519
Speaker 3: Me.

433
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,319
Speaker 4: Yes, it was.

434
00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 5: It kind of exposed how I mean, we always we

435
00:19:51,400 --> 00:19:54,200
always know it's how fake the product is. But the

436
00:19:54,279 --> 00:19:56,200
scariest thing to me is a lot of young fans

437
00:19:56,279 --> 00:19:59,720
were like, why is Jesse pulling out this on the storyline.

438
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,319
He's rooting the storyline, and it's like even the fans

439
00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:04,720
don't know how to react when someone's a human being

440
00:20:04,799 --> 00:20:07,319
for thirty seconds on ww television.

441
00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,920
Speaker 4: That's such a true point. I mean, they because they

442
00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,799
all think that somewhere along the line they'll be they'll

443
00:20:12,799 --> 00:20:15,359
be brought in under the tent, you know, right, They

444
00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:17,240
think one day WW will fuck them.

445
00:20:17,519 --> 00:20:19,839
Speaker 5: You know, WW will have the on the pre show

446
00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,160
like they did with Sam Roberts.

447
00:20:22,319 --> 00:20:24,279
Speaker 4: I mean, not even that, even just you know, give

448
00:20:24,319 --> 00:20:28,160
them a little boost on socials where you know, all

449
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:31,079
of a sudden they drop a comment defending the E

450
00:20:31,319 --> 00:20:33,759
and then a bunch of people follow them or their

451
00:20:33,799 --> 00:20:35,640
engagement stats go up, and then you got that and

452
00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,519
forget it. They're just you'll never see them in.

453
00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:40,599
Speaker 5: The video video.

454
00:20:40,799 --> 00:20:43,279
Speaker 4: That's another huge one. You're damn right about that.

455
00:20:43,519 --> 00:20:46,079
Speaker 5: Showing people react another way to control the fans, because

456
00:20:46,079 --> 00:20:49,880
now everyone's making fake reactions to everything that is so true,

457
00:20:50,279 --> 00:20:52,680
screaming when our truth comes out. I know that you've

458
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:54,200
seen the guy now for forty seven years.

459
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,160
Speaker 4: You know, we talk so much about how much shame

460
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,079
and pain is involved the being a lifelong wrestling fan

461
00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,119
of our vintage and being steps from the guard, and

462
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,640
will really I think drive it home in a lot

463
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,200
of ways coming up August third, But we think back

464
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:05,839
to those days and one of the things you could

465
00:21:05,839 --> 00:21:09,480
always say about wrestling announcers, the television announcers is that

466
00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:12,319
as silly as the general public considered that the violence,

467
00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,160
as foolish as they considered the pretend fights and the

468
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,720
pretend characters and all of that. The announcers were allowed

469
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,440
to comment on things in a way that was part

470
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,359
of the show, but somewhat ironically distant from the show,

471
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,440
so that you know, as much as someone would have

472
00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:30,559
made fun of you for being a wrestling fan when

473
00:21:30,599 --> 00:21:32,279
you were a kid in the nineties or the eighties

474
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:35,680
or the seventies, they wouldn't, I would wager make fun

475
00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:38,240
of the announcers in the same way, because the announcers,

476
00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,519
while part of the circus, were allowed, like a Gorilla

477
00:21:41,559 --> 00:21:43,880
Monsoon was allowed to call something out that happened in

478
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,000
the ring that was a miss, that was unflattering, that

479
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,839
wasn't part of some you know, pre decided fabric of

480
00:21:49,839 --> 00:21:53,400
how we weave our Disney style storytelling to a crescendo.

481
00:21:53,839 --> 00:21:55,599
You know, these sort of like and all it is

482
00:21:55,599 --> 00:21:58,759
is heuristics. All it is are these like these memorized

483
00:21:58,799 --> 00:22:01,119
beats and patterns of things that have worked before that

484
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,599
they're trying to systematize. They're trying to make it seem

485
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,079
like because one angle got over once that that's like

486
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,240
a blueprint as opposed to just what was right at

487
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,599
the time for the wrestlers involved, and so you know,

488
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:12,920
you get you get four thousand attempts at Savage and

489
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,240
Ran Savage and Elizabeth as we just talked about in

490
00:22:15,279 --> 00:22:18,119
the costume collection, yep, and just you know, oh yeah,

491
00:22:18,319 --> 00:22:20,240
very rareer the performers, they're gonna be able to rise

492
00:22:20,319 --> 00:22:22,759
to that, and even rarer other performers who have kind

493
00:22:22,759 --> 00:22:25,279
of the backdrop of legitimate you know, tension and fear

494
00:22:25,319 --> 00:22:27,799
that existed come to find out between Randy and Elizabeth

495
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,880
so that it really penetrated the camera in that way.

496
00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,279
Rare is the case of a Jake Roberts who has

497
00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:35,160
been through so much crazy shit in personal trauma that

498
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,640
he can actually channel real pain in front of the

499
00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:40,640
camera instead of playing a character that's been through pain.

500
00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 5: Brother right, well, I mean, I mean, I think one

501
00:22:43,519 --> 00:22:45,200
of the one of the biggest things that the biggest

502
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,039
story of this year, and I think Hull Hogan should

503
00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,119
be very happy this has happened. Is the other failure

504
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,440
of the John Cena Heiltern and how much it makes

505
00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,359
the Hull Coogan He'll turn better retrospect when you think

506
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:00,000
about the fact that Hull Coogan was the most successful

507
00:23:00,079 --> 00:23:02,799
wrestler on the planet. No one can argue nineteen ninety

508
00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:04,880
sixties the most successful elsort ever lived. He turned his

509
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,799
back on everything everything he did, He did everything different,

510
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,759
and he kind of forced Vincent Man. I mean, you

511
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:14,839
go to the ausoling, but because of the success of

512
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,640
ww Vince had to change his whole business strategy. And

513
00:23:17,759 --> 00:23:23,079
John Cena is terrified, terrified to go against anything he's

514
00:23:23,079 --> 00:23:25,880
ever done. He has, He's you can just see the

515
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:27,960
doubt in his face every time he cuts a promo. Yeah,

516
00:23:28,039 --> 00:23:30,960
it has been one of the biggest failures I've ever

517
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:34,039
seen in wrestling, the John Cena hill turn. I can't

518
00:23:34,039 --> 00:23:37,000
believe how bad it is every week. I'm shocked how

519
00:23:37,079 --> 00:23:38,400
worse it it gets every week.

520
00:23:38,559 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, going into Summer Slam in the rematch with Cody,

521
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,160
he's been carefully threading this needle to such an absurd

522
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,359
degree that we're all just sitting here wonderingly, what is

523
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,599
what is this? Besides we're just waiting to see if

524
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,839
Seena has come up with six more singers this week,

525
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,599
and he'll get thirty times the promo time of anybody else,

526
00:23:55,599 --> 00:23:58,400
and we'll go, oh, and that's that's it. That's what

527
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,920
we're watching. John Cena for after all these years. I

528
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,440
don't know. Boss Sina said not too long ago that

529
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,519
after he turn heel, he's here to ruin wrestling, and

530
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,400
I'm looking around, I think he's succeeding.

531
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 3: I think, I mean, yeah, I mean, there's there's there's

532
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,400
no question about that. I I I, I mean, I

533
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,359
can't you know, I don't watch it. I don't watch

534
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,319
you a week to week. I don't know what the

535
00:24:17,319 --> 00:24:19,400
fuck is going on. We tweak, you know. I completely

536
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,680
even forgot that it's supposed to be Cody and Sina

537
00:24:23,759 --> 00:24:25,920
at SummerSlam, which I think is the biggest mistake they

538
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,960
could possibly do. I think it's so it's just such

539
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,400
a waste of everything. I mean, I I've been saying,

540
00:24:34,759 --> 00:24:37,880
Ray I, I've been saying from from day one that

541
00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,319
that that that Codence should be back, shouldn't have come

542
00:24:41,319 --> 00:24:43,799
back till after Summer Slam, that he should have been

543
00:24:43,799 --> 00:24:47,640
gone the whole summer and not come back until after

544
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,559
Summer Slam, and let Sina, you know, essentially run amuck.

545
00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:52,880
Not that he would have run a muck, but it

546
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,359
would have been great se him run a muck and

547
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:58,559
then and then you know, Cody comes back and beatsn

548
00:24:59,079 --> 00:25:01,359
end of the year sort of thing. But you know,

549
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:02,839
have him back. I mean, just don't see what the

550
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:06,119
fucking point is. It's like it just I mean the.

551
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,640
Speaker 5: First match was so was so one of the worst

552
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,000
rustling I mean, especially after last year. I mean, see

553
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,640
what you will. Roman and Cody had a pretty good match,

554
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:16,119
even the year before he went that horrible finish. They

555
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,079
had a good match, and then this main event was

556
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,160
just I mean it was something out of WCW ninety

557
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:25,240
nine scene. The scene. I mean, I was shocked how

558
00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:26,880
bad it was. I'm like, well, it's gonna be not

559
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,720
that great, but it was. I don't I just see

560
00:25:28,759 --> 00:25:30,480
other thing. I think people in not admitting scene that

561
00:25:30,559 --> 00:25:31,519
just can't move anymore.

562
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,079
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, that's a huge part of it.

563
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,440
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, I mean he makes Kerry Funk in his

564
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,519
sixties look like a twenty year old right now, you know.

565
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,599
I mean it's crazy and the same thing like I'm

566
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,400
watching him and this is another guy who's benefiting. I

567
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,039
said to my friend, remember how much Rick Flair moved

568
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,720
so much better at his age than he's moving right now.

569
00:25:51,599 --> 00:25:54,720
I Mean, it's just crazy how he's he's not delivering

570
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,160
on the promos, and he's certainly not delivering in the ring,

571
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,720
and I think it's almost like I would almost end

572
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:01,359
it at I would have to retire.

573
00:26:01,759 --> 00:26:03,519
Speaker 4: That's when we put this match on the board. That's

574
00:26:03,519 --> 00:26:05,960
what I thought they were going to do. Interesting, that's interesting.

575
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: I didn't know that.

576
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm sure though I'm not sure, But where my

577
00:26:09,279 --> 00:26:11,000
head's going is in the middle of the match, Sina

578
00:26:11,079 --> 00:26:13,160
will somehow realize the error of his ways and not

579
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,400
reciprocate and not hit Cody in the head with the

580
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,240
belt and knock out somebody that you know is more

581
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,000
evil than he is, and then do a couple of

582
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,200
baby face programs to write off into the sunset. And

583
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,559
I don't think I was always the plan, but you

584
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,759
just have to damage is being done here, Like seem

585
00:26:28,759 --> 00:26:32,200
Punk's not going to be the same. Yeah, Seampunk went

586
00:26:32,319 --> 00:26:34,119
the same thing La Night went through when he lost

587
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:35,359
to Roman and Versaudi.

588
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I I it is that bad, huh,

589
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:41,920
Like Seampunk is really suffering from well, I just I

590
00:26:42,039 --> 00:26:42,359
just you know.

591
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 4: The big thing ever since he came back is when

592
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,839
is he finally gonna get a title shot? And this

593
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,480
is how they did it. Yeah, when ninety percent of

594
00:26:48,519 --> 00:26:52,480
the story is John Cena saying things that Phil Brooks

595
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,319
wouldn't want him to say, Like that's really how you

596
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:57,799
leverage the fact that like one of the fewtuips you

597
00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:59,680
have left to play is seeing Punk finally wins the

598
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:00,160
big one.

599
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,319
Speaker 5: I don't know, and you know, you know, I keep

600
00:27:03,319 --> 00:27:05,720
forgetting how long ago twenty eleven was, but it was

601
00:27:05,759 --> 00:27:08,559
a long time ago, and that feud is a lot

602
00:27:08,559 --> 00:27:11,920
of people's childhoods, who who have become laps or whatever,

603
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,400
you know, like their version of lapse, and to bring

604
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,000
it back, I think it meant a lot to a

605
00:27:17,039 --> 00:27:19,559
lot of younger fans. And I know for a fact

606
00:27:19,599 --> 00:27:22,880
that my friends just felt utterly miserable and betrayed about

607
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,559
how the fact that they had in Saudi Arabia and

608
00:27:25,599 --> 00:27:27,160
the fact that it was that dad of a match

609
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,599
and he stopped watching again, and it's like, man, this

610
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,599
could have been something special and you blew it.

611
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's going to go down as a

612
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:38,680
very strange, complicating legacy thing for John Cena, I think.

613
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,839
And well, Boss, it's not like we didn't call.

614
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 3: It, no, I mean, that's that's been since day won

615
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,000
They they have they have screwed the pooch on this

616
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,079
fucking on this heel turn. It's been there.

617
00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:52,599
Speaker 4: There are two or three things that John Cena needed

618
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:54,480
to be willing to do in terms of character for

619
00:27:54,519 --> 00:27:56,400
this to work, and if he wasn't willing to do them,

620
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480
you don't do the heel turn. And it's factly been

621
00:27:58,519 --> 00:28:00,680
vindicated in that regard. I mean, I'm not trying to

622
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,039
say that the business is down to zero, but Cody

623
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,440
is so cold now. As a result, Punk is colder

624
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:09,119
now anyone that's cross Sina. Randy's stayed kind of hot.

625
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,640
But Randy's always going to sort of be, you know,

626
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:17,359
he always gonna float right beneath that top level. While sorry,

627
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,000
why you can't hurt him, he also can't help him

628
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:20,319
all that much to get him over the top to

629
00:28:20,319 --> 00:28:23,039
be somebody that, you know, really is the main attraction

630
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,039
on the product. He just never been that guy, and

631
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:26,440
I don't think he's ever going to be that guy.

632
00:28:26,519 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 5: But go ahead, Ry, Yeah, no, I'll tell you. Also,

633
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:30,640
I did god effect about this is jay Us.

634
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:31,839
Speaker 4: Another great exent.

635
00:28:32,039 --> 00:28:34,519
Speaker 5: I was gonna say, I went to Vegas at the

636
00:28:34,599 --> 00:28:36,480
last second, my friend the ticket.

637
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 4: Oh that's right, Yeah, I.

638
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 5: Did go and Jays came out a night one and

639
00:28:44,119 --> 00:28:45,720
do you get I don't know how it came across

640
00:28:45,759 --> 00:28:48,920
on TV. I'll be honest when I when I'm on TV,

641
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,680
it's it's torture watching this guy walk out. But live

642
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:54,400
in the building, it is a party and everyone was

643
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,200
going with nuts. And when he won the belt, and

644
00:28:57,319 --> 00:28:59,079
I said to my friend, because the crowd is dead

645
00:28:59,119 --> 00:29:01,240
for like two hours, I'm like, I go, like, they

646
00:29:01,279 --> 00:29:03,839
should have made him wait to win the belt. This

647
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:05,599
guy is kind of like when you see it live,

648
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,319
You're like, I think this guy might be the guy.

649
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,079
I know, like a lot of older fans don't like it.

650
00:29:09,079 --> 00:29:10,440
I don't like it, but he might be the guy.

651
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,839
And they've also kind of like downgraded him for the

652
00:29:13,839 --> 00:29:15,519
scene of push and for the gun through Push, and

653
00:29:15,559 --> 00:29:18,240
now for Goldberg, the Goldberg could actual retire to match

654
00:29:18,279 --> 00:29:20,880
without the belt. You know, you've just kind of cooled

655
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,519
down a lot of people with this heel turn. And again,

656
00:29:23,599 --> 00:29:25,960
it's not like you had a blueprint of how to

657
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:27,279
do it right and how to do it wrong. With

658
00:29:27,319 --> 00:29:29,440
hold Hogan, you had the blueprint of how to do

659
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,640
it right at the start and not not to fuck

660
00:29:32,759 --> 00:29:34,680
up like they did with at Star K ninety seven,

661
00:29:34,759 --> 00:29:37,720
and they just I mean, if Hogan fucked this, he'll

662
00:29:37,759 --> 00:29:41,119
turn up this fast, he'd be a face by January

663
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:42,759
ninety seven because he would have been like, this doesn't

664
00:29:42,799 --> 00:29:44,200
work and I'm going back to face. It would to

665
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,240
rout his legacy. I mean, it's legacy is already ruined.

666
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:46,920
But you know what I'm saying.

667
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,599
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know, the the key thing with

668
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:53,640
Hogan though, and I mean, you know, it comes down

669
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:59,200
to they when Hogan turned heel, what also made it effective?

670
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,519
Like if he came back out, if he came out

671
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:03,480
the next you know, two weeks or whatever it was

672
00:30:03,599 --> 00:30:06,279
after after Bash of the Beach and Hogan came out

673
00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,759
in the red and yellow, it would have been a

674
00:30:08,759 --> 00:30:12,319
complete disaster. It's a very simple thing. Sena needed to

675
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:13,440
change his entire look.

676
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,759
Speaker 4: And they at the box, I was saying, if he's

677
00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:19,480
not willing to check that box, yeah, that's it's a

678
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:19,960
non starter.

679
00:30:20,079 --> 00:30:24,079
Speaker 5: It's well rollins changes. Look, he's still doing this stupid

680
00:30:24,119 --> 00:30:26,279
singing and he's the supposed to be the biggest heel

681
00:30:26,279 --> 00:30:28,200
in the company as besides seeing them, you know.

682
00:30:29,359 --> 00:30:32,599
Speaker 3: It's just you know, he he I mean, we we

683
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,680
said it that he should have come out completely different.

684
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:41,799
He should have come out shaved head, completely bald, full beard,

685
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,400
in a suit and just you know, the the the

686
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:52,000
antithesis of what we think John Cena. Because the funny

687
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,079
thing is is that, you know, the the he comes

688
00:30:55,079 --> 00:30:56,440
out and he says, you know, I'm not going to

689
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:59,480
change because you know, because you guys want me to change,

690
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,400
so I'm going to stay the same. And it's like, well,

691
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,920
not exactly anymore, because the people who you're actually getting,

692
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,160
you know, who are excited about you, are people who

693
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,680
liked what the way you look like you you actually

694
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,920
need to change to get them to dislike you.

695
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 4: Like you think. There's that much layers to the fans

696
00:31:19,079 --> 00:31:21,240
reaction to you that they're thinking, Okay, this is the

697
00:31:21,319 --> 00:31:24,440
exact same appearing John Cena that I cheered for twenty years,

698
00:31:24,599 --> 00:31:26,960
But I'm going to boo him because he's dressing that

699
00:31:27,039 --> 00:31:30,880
way because I want him to dress differently. No, these

700
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:32,960
people go to one show a year, and when John

701
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,839
Cena comes out, if he looks like the John Cena

702
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,200
they remember cheering, they're gonna cheer him to act like

703
00:31:37,279 --> 00:31:40,200
they weren't cheering johnsena wildly for ten years before. This

704
00:31:40,279 --> 00:31:44,839
is so stupid, the music, everything. I mean, Jack and

705
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,119
I said from the beginning, he after he turned heel,

706
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:49,839
he should have been off TV. He should have been

707
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:53,160
off TV until WrestleMania, not with single promo. And you

708
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,720
know that was obviously also before the whole you know,

709
00:31:55,839 --> 00:31:57,799
when Rock was supposed to be a part of it,

710
00:31:57,839 --> 00:31:59,960
and you know we were like rock should come out,

711
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,200
and I believe that rock should come out.

712
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: Every time that they that they advert.

713
00:32:04,079 --> 00:32:06,799
Speaker 4: Somebody else that this John Cena hill turn fucked all up.

714
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he he does. He ruined it completely. It's

715
00:32:09,759 --> 00:32:12,200
really his fault when it comes down to it, because

716
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,839
you know, if John Seen, they advertised John Seen to

717
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,960
come in all these different places and then he know

718
00:32:18,119 --> 00:32:20,960
shows and Rock comes in and is his is his mouthpiece,

719
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,880
and it would have been phenomenal to have him come

720
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,640
out and be his mouthpiece and say that John's too

721
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,400
busy to come out. John's too busy to make these appearances.

722
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,480
He had he had a last minute movie deal, like

723
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:32,519
do the whole Hollywood thing, and they and they just didn't.

724
00:32:32,519 --> 00:32:35,200
They just He's just John Cena being a dick. And

725
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,680
that's not fun, you know, and that's not interesting.

726
00:32:39,599 --> 00:32:43,519
Speaker 5: He's a lapsed fan wrestling podcast with Jack and Carno

727
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:44,920
and JP Soorro.

728
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,319
Speaker 4: He's the lapsed fan wrestling podcast.

729
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 5: The other mistake that made is if they knew for

730
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,960
a fact like Rock's not coming back, Sina should have

731
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:03,559
if you're gonna have seen it come out immediately, have

732
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:05,880
seen it kind of right off the rock, be like,

733
00:33:06,359 --> 00:33:09,160
you know, hey, I'm done with the Rock, you know

734
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,400
what I mean? Like, I don't know how you would

735
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:11,680
have had him to say it, but make it clear

736
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,880
the audience the Rock isn't coming out again, because I

737
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:16,640
think I think the other reason that hurt Russell MANI

738
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:17,599
is people are waiting for the Rock.

739
00:33:17,839 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 4: Of course they were, yeah, because that was part of

740
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,960
what was magical. I mean, look, you said before Boss

741
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,240
on this show, you know I haven't watched week week

742
00:33:26,279 --> 00:33:28,720
in weeks. Go back to our live call. Speaking of

743
00:33:28,759 --> 00:33:30,960
live calls, go back to our live call of Elimination

744
00:33:31,039 --> 00:33:34,000
Chamber when Seena turn heel. It's a top TLF moment

745
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,279
when we react to that, And as you're sitting there,

746
00:33:37,559 --> 00:33:40,599
are you telling is there a chance that you're watching

747
00:33:40,599 --> 00:33:44,319
week to week because they did something that monumental. Yes, yes, yes,

748
00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:46,000
I mean there's not a fan of complain that you

749
00:33:46,039 --> 00:33:48,759
would stop watching after that. I mean it was so

750
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,519
if to be completely honest, the next morning and I

751
00:33:52,599 --> 00:33:54,440
never do this, and you know, we're hungry.

752
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: I was hungry. I was hungry for more and I

753
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,400
were hungry again, yes, and I was, and I was

754
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:04,319
looking for all, you know, information I watched the morning

755
00:34:04,319 --> 00:34:09,679
after Elimination Chamber. I sat watching the goddamn uh press

756
00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:12,199
conference after because I wanted to. I wanted more information.

757
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,480
The first time I've wanted more in so long I

758
00:34:16,519 --> 00:34:18,599
can't even say with the last time. I really wanted

759
00:34:18,599 --> 00:34:21,480
that much more where I even sat through Paul and

760
00:34:21,559 --> 00:34:26,360
his fucking press conference for God's sake, and like, and

761
00:34:26,679 --> 00:34:29,079
that was it. Like I was really really excited. And

762
00:34:29,079 --> 00:34:30,840
and then I got excited about the idea that he

763
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:33,599
better not show up on television, because that, to me,

764
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,079
was much more exciting. Hogan didn't show up on television

765
00:34:36,119 --> 00:34:37,400
for a while, and I think that would have been

766
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,239
better if he just was gone, and it would have

767
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,239
created so much intrigue. In the first time we see

768
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,320
him is when he's coming down for his championship match

769
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:48,079
against Cody Rhodes ough been great.

770
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,199
Speaker 4: I stand with hol didn't started to coming out every week.

771
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,760
It started a weaken as that's Hogan in general. After

772
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,719
I turned to Betch to the Beach ninety six, you

773
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,400
didn't he showed him like two weeks later, weeks later

774
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,960
and he was gone for three weeks and he was

775
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:03,960
back because he's over you, you know. But now no

776
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:05,920
scenes has got merch to move. And you know how

777
00:35:06,039 --> 00:35:08,800
how ironic you go from wanting more for the first

778
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:12,239
time in memory yep, to we're not even considering going

779
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,400
to Summer Slam as part of our August third live

780
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,079
show at Comedy Village in Times Square.

781
00:35:16,159 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 3: And you know, the irony is that the merch would

782
00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:22,280
have sold. It's like seeing if this is whether he's

783
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,159
wearing it or not. Nobody gives a shit. You can

784
00:35:25,199 --> 00:35:27,079
tell him like you can. You can post all these

785
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:30,320
things on so many different more you know, places to

786
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,280
sell a T shirt then than just on him wearing

787
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,840
it on TV.

788
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:38,679
Speaker 4: He listen, he turned heel and he comes out every

789
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:44,039
week wearing the Farewell Tour short shirt for your city

790
00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:47,760
in the colors of your local football or baseball teams.

791
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,159
That's that's what they went with and it's just a disaster.

792
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,559
It's a disaster in his fucking stations. Everyone would buy it.

793
00:35:55,559 --> 00:35:57,480
It's like, you know, I think about it like this.

794
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,400
I remember when Rock was you know, back in my

795
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,280
two thousand and Rock was telling the T shirts that

796
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,800
finally the Rock has come back to whatever your city

797
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,440
is on the back of his shirt. He wasn't wearing

798
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,880
that fucking shirt on television. He wouldn't wear that, but

799
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,760
everyone was buying it. The same fucking thing, the same thing.

800
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,679
Speaker 5: You don't mean, block lesser at Suplex City shirts in

801
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,280
every arena, and I remember going to some shows people

802
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,239
were buying them. He didn't walk out with those shirts,

803
00:36:25,559 --> 00:36:28,119
just walk out with That's only a few years ago,

804
00:36:28,199 --> 00:36:30,840
and that's when the show was still garbage and they

805
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,840
had that figured out. Some reason, they forgot how to

806
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,199
do that.

807
00:36:33,599 --> 00:36:36,480
Speaker 4: It's why people keep turning to us like a flower

808
00:36:36,519 --> 00:36:38,840
to the sun, you know, because no matter how much

809
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,559
they think this thing's back on the rails, they'll eventually

810
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,760
do something that will remind you that the superstructure of

811
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,679
our modern situation will not allow wrestling to be as

812
00:36:47,679 --> 00:36:49,480
good as it used to be, not as enthralling of

813
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,079
a viewing experience as it used to be, not as

814
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,039
anticipatory of a thing, but more of just like a

815
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:58,760
debate society Twitter game, you know, which you know keeps

816
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:02,440
fan interest and holds it. But not only people aren't

817
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:06,239
even people aren't even waiting for moments. They're trying to

818
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,480
make moments. They're trying to call everything epic. They're trying

819
00:37:09,519 --> 00:37:11,760
to call every woman who works in the business iconic.

820
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:15,920
And they're trying to just decide before anyone decides anything,

821
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,719
we'll have any staying power that what we just saw

822
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,760
was amazing and phenomenal, and maybe I'll be this this

823
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:25,480
wrestler's favorite fan. It's a strange set of affairs. It's

824
00:37:25,519 --> 00:37:27,800
why we're lapsed. It's why we're taking the stage at

825
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,519
high noon in August third at the Comedy Village three

826
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:32,920
poin fifty two West forty fourth Street. Your coach chairman

827
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:34,559
just gonna chop it up with you. Buy a ticket,

828
00:37:34,639 --> 00:37:36,400
Let's chop it up. Let's come to terms with the

829
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,000
fact that we can't fully sever ourselves. You ended up

830
00:37:39,039 --> 00:37:42,480
going to Mania Ray that's the lesson. Yes, tell me

831
00:37:42,519 --> 00:37:44,840
why you And what does that say?

832
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: Well, yeah, it says that like when the push came

833
00:37:47,519 --> 00:37:49,280
to shove, I was just like, I gotta be there.

834
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 4: That's right.

835
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,199
Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. I'll tell you what I realized.

836
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,880
I don't think WrestleMania is meant for TV anymore. I

837
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,840
think it's more like it's basically going to a festival.

838
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,880
Like the matches all sought. But we had a great

839
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,079
time because we were just there hanging out in the

840
00:38:03,159 --> 00:38:05,039
town and stuff, like, you know, we went to the

841
00:38:05,199 --> 00:38:08,440
Sinos later and stuff. But yeah, yeah, it's a disease.

842
00:38:08,519 --> 00:38:11,440
It's a disease, and the disease continues Summer Slam.

843
00:38:13,639 --> 00:38:16,280
Speaker 4: You yeah, you know, sometimes you got to go see

844
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,119
a doctor, you know, if you're dealing with a chronic disease.

845
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: But I will say this, let me just say this

846
00:38:21,519 --> 00:38:23,320
to the to the fans. If you are a fan,

847
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,639
if you are someone a lapse fan fan, and you

848
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,440
have a ticket the Summer Slim, you can't let it

849
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,519
go and you're like, oh am I going to be

850
00:38:28,559 --> 00:38:31,360
able to get to the stadium in time? You are, Yes,

851
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,760
you're right by the New Jersey Railroad. That's that right

852
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:38,079
underneath Mass Square Garden. You're gonna get there in three seconds. Now,

853
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,920
how are you going to get back. I don't know.

854
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:44,519
Hopefully they resolve the problem, but a disaster, yeah, you

855
00:38:44,559 --> 00:38:46,679
will be able to get there if you do want to.

856
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,159
And I you know, and I think if you are

857
00:38:48,159 --> 00:38:49,880
going to Summer Slam, if you don't like blacks Fan,

858
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:53,800
you should go to this party, get drunk, enjoy the show,

859
00:38:54,079 --> 00:38:56,079
then go to Summer Slam and complain about on the internet.

860
00:38:56,119 --> 00:38:56,920
Because I'm scar.

861
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. You'll enjoy SummerSlam better afterwards, that's

862
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:02,679
for sure.

863
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:06,519
Speaker 5: Yes, So it isn't it scary that this is like

864
00:39:06,679 --> 00:39:08,519
the biggest risk. I think this is the biggest risk

865
00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:11,800
they've ever taken with the Summer Slam brand name. And

866
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,599
we have no idea what the card is. It's a

867
00:39:13,639 --> 00:39:15,480
less than a month away, and it almost feels either

868
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:17,199
just gonna have ass will be put together the card.

869
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, not only not only do we not know what

870
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,159
the card is, but we don't even have any matches

871
00:39:21,199 --> 00:39:24,079
we feel like are being set up for SummerSlam.

872
00:39:25,039 --> 00:39:27,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, we don't have like anything that we're excited about.

873
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,639
Like there's no like, well maybe seam Punk could fight

874
00:39:29,639 --> 00:39:31,239
this guy or so, you know, it just feels like

875
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:35,440
they're just gonna do this to do it, and I

876
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,880
don't know I would have. I would have been punning

877
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,960
seeds for the show as like back in April.

878
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they would have too. But the problem is

879
00:39:43,639 --> 00:39:46,199
we we we were in full reaction mode to everything

880
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,880
AW does, so we're we're not in control of our

881
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,800
booking anymore because we have to come up with all

882
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,480
these bullshit dates to counteract anything they put on the

883
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,960
schedule because you know, we're so much bigger than they are.

884
00:39:56,159 --> 00:39:58,119
That's really been a bad luck this year. I don't

885
00:39:58,159 --> 00:40:00,320
know if it's Nick Con, I'm sure it's some people

886
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,159
Triple Ah. This is a bad situation where they're trying

887
00:40:03,159 --> 00:40:06,519
to like flood markets like wherever they go and just

888
00:40:06,639 --> 00:40:09,480
like like nip at their heels, like, what are you

889
00:40:09,519 --> 00:40:10,440
guys doing.

890
00:40:10,599 --> 00:40:11,679
Speaker 3: Ruining my life?

891
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 4: Right?

892
00:40:12,599 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 5: Yeah?

893
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 4: God, it forces them to book things on gates that

894
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,480
make no sense. There's no reason for Goldberg's retirement match

895
00:40:19,519 --> 00:40:21,679
to be on fucking Saturday nights main event other than

896
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,719
the fact that they need something that's going to make

897
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,199
people watch that show instead of All In.

898
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 3: And there's no reason to have fucking four fucking you know,

899
00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:34,679
non premium live events on a fucking month for God's sake,

900
00:40:35,039 --> 00:40:36,880
wor Basically.

901
00:40:36,519 --> 00:40:38,280
Speaker 5: There's three pay per views this week in w W.

902
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:39,840
I mean, if you counts, I can't.

903
00:40:40,199 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 4: I can't XP.

904
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 5: And the thing about the crazy thing about is that

905
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,719
AW hasn't been particularly good this year, I think, so

906
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,440
for you to be going this nuts against them, it

907
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:53,239
almost takes people who don't watch AW be like, am

908
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:56,199
I missing something really good this year? Why are you

909
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,360
doing this? Like? I kind of think you kind of

910
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,440
just let Tony confole in his face Bike, You don't

911
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:02,719
need to do anything, You're right?

912
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, well are you afraid to let them have a night?

913
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,679
Speaker 3: To them? Else? Like? It makes you It makes you

914
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,400
really really think honestly, it makes you think, who's really

915
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,599
pulling the strings back there? I know, because this sounds

916
00:41:13,639 --> 00:41:16,480
like a lot like somebody else who supposedly is not

917
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:17,800
in the company anymore.

918
00:41:18,159 --> 00:41:20,159
Speaker 4: Who might just be like who might just take the

919
00:41:20,159 --> 00:41:21,960
stage August third, who likes to be honest?

920
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,039
Speaker 3: Ship I I I picture the text that go but

921
00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:28,159
that go on Okay, a lot of a lot of

922
00:41:28,159 --> 00:41:30,360
one letter words going on to a lot of different

923
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,920
people back there, putting, you know, pitting people against each

924
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:36,400
other in in the w WE. From one one individual

925
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:38,039
who's getting his dick.

926
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:43,079
Speaker 5: Sucked the whole cm Punk John Cena build, and that

927
00:41:43,159 --> 00:41:46,880
match felt like Vince book the whole thing. It didn't feel.

928
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, well wait, when Sena came out, well, pardon me,

929
00:41:49,079 --> 00:41:51,400
when Punk came out dressed as thug life John Cena,

930
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,320
I was like, Nope, that's it. We've lost someone's lost

931
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:59,400
their grip. Someone has just capitulated to Vince somewhere somehow, Yep, yep, yep,

932
00:42:00,079 --> 00:42:00,639
because this.

933
00:42:00,559 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 5: Is stuff Fence would have made him do. How'd he

934
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,440
come back in twenty nineteen? This is all stuff Fence

935
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:05,280
would have made this guy do.

936
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 4: He make him do is exactly right, make him do?

937
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,280
And that's where we're at. And yeah, but you know,

938
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,119
and if you've been following us, you would know that

939
00:42:14,119 --> 00:42:15,760
that's where we could end up. But there's there was

940
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,239
a lot of denial along the way because for maybe

941
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,199
for eighteen months, Vince took his eye off the ball

942
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:22,400
so that he could not go to prison. And so

943
00:42:22,519 --> 00:42:25,719
triple H could you know his his action to figure Federation.

944
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,400
Speaker 3: I was never going to go to prison. Never I

945
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,920
knew that I already paid off the police, I own

946
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,440
the courts. Listen, I'm in the White House.

947
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: I mean the fact that is a podcast. Now, let's

948
00:42:39,519 --> 00:42:41,199
just kind of feel like they're putting all the pieces

949
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:41,800
back together.

950
00:42:42,159 --> 00:42:47,280
Speaker 3: Let's not forget I am in the White House.

951
00:42:50,599 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 4: Now, wrong, stop the one he's lying.

952
00:42:53,559 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 5: No, I got it. I think that one of the

953
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,199
things we're going to find out years from now is

954
00:43:00,199 --> 00:43:03,119
that he was giving Trump advice every step of the way,

955
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,840
every step of the way. Yeah.

956
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,199
Speaker 4: I mean it's been published and it hasn't been retracted

957
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:10,480
that you know, Vince was one of the few people

958
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,599
that Trump would take his call and like leave the

959
00:43:12,679 --> 00:43:14,280
room in the middle of other meetings.

960
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:16,159
Speaker 5: Yeah.

961
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,639
Speaker 4: Very simple, very simple, folks. It's this American work. It

962
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:22,280
has been right since the beginning. And who's had their

963
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,159
finger on the pulse the whole time? Your fucking co

964
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:26,079
chairs and and and where do you need to be

965
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:27,719
to get under the hood and get get sort of

966
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:29,880
like a you know, a closed circle. Uh, come to

967
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,000
Jesus assessment of what the hell is going on? August third,

968
00:43:33,039 --> 00:43:35,760
exactly August third, Comedy Village. You already know what it is.

969
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,599
It's a New York state of mind. I don't want

970
00:43:37,599 --> 00:43:41,920
to let you go ray without asking you other element

971
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:43,639
of what they're doing now, and they're doing it again

972
00:43:43,679 --> 00:43:46,480
SummerSlam weekend. I heard about it right around the time

973
00:43:46,519 --> 00:43:48,199
that I feel like we decided to do a show

974
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,920
curiously enough, and last time it was much the same.

975
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,840
What did you hear about the roast of WrestleMania and

976
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,880
this idea that they should try to do what we

977
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,679
did in La.

978
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,559
Speaker 5: Can I tell you? I said to people, they got

979
00:44:02,559 --> 00:44:04,840
this idea for a Musc and Laps fan. And some

980
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:06,760
people are like, no, because they don't understand that people

981
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:09,000
listen to you. Guys that shouldn't be that probably don't

982
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:09,880
admit they listened.

983
00:44:09,639 --> 00:44:13,679
Speaker 4: To you, especially within Yes, Yes, And I was.

984
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 5: Like, they could have been doing this for years. They

985
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,079
could have been doing something like this, and they never

986
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:20,400
thought of it until we did it. And let me

987
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:23,480
tell you something. You guys packed out that chateau. You

988
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:26,400
guys packed it out, and you proved that a post

989
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:30,920
WrestleMania event can work. Suddenly, now they're doing it with

990
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,360
Tony Hank Cliff. They're doing it again, by the way,

991
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:38,280
Saturday night in New Jersey, Tony, I listen did you

992
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:40,119
I sing the audio the roast? Did you listen to

993
00:44:40,159 --> 00:44:41,960
the audio of the roast. I feel like that deserves

994
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:42,719
like a whole.

995
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 4: To a good amount of it. That's that's coming, and

996
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:47,199
it's coming hard.

997
00:44:49,679 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 5: The thing about roast with wrestlers, and the thing is

998
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,880
is that they think that they can take choking around,

999
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,760
but they can't. You got the Paul Haymond just is

1000
00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:03,880
livid and angry and he's yelling at Gabriel Glesa, who

1001
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:06,320
by the way, Grega Glazers the guy sold out Dodger

1002
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:08,360
State and all by himself. He's a massive star. And

1003
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,039
Paul Haymen is screaming at him like he's a bus

1004
00:45:11,079 --> 00:45:14,760
boy and it's not funny, and it's it's very uncomfortable.

1005
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:15,719
It actually made me.

1006
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 4: The insecurities come out big time when they're on the

1007
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,719
stage with somebody and more interesting than they are big time.

1008
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 5: Yes, between Hayman's reaction to that roast and him not

1009
00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:28,360
really commenting when Sabu died and the way Sabu died,

1010
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,280
I really want you guys, and I know JP's gonna

1011
00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:35,760
get god No to a deep dive on E. C W.

1012
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:39,599
And I guarantee you there's something there that's gonna expose

1013
00:45:39,639 --> 00:45:42,119
Paul Hayman and send them to prison because I can't

1014
00:45:42,199 --> 00:45:45,280
stand this fucking guy after that fucking roast. He's a

1015
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,360
fucking comment. He fooled all those guys. He basically, you know,

1016
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:51,320
he was Vince's bitch the entire time. And I have

1017
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,840
a theory now, and I don't know if you guys

1018
00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:54,719
ever have ever said this, but if you notice, CCW

1019
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,960
came along and he got into a e c W

1020
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,880
when Vince was on trot, and sometimes I think Vince

1021
00:46:02,159 --> 00:46:05,119
put him there. Maybe you guys think I'm crazy, Maybe

1022
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:08,599
some ECW fix but he sold everyone this bullshit lifestyle

1023
00:46:09,039 --> 00:46:11,119
and this bullshit and he had some of these guys

1024
00:46:11,199 --> 00:46:14,960
mortgage their homes. Uh Tamulin sitch when the credit card

1025
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,599
and it was all lies. It was all bullshit. And

1026
00:46:17,639 --> 00:46:19,719
the moment the con was no longer good, he ran

1027
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,960
to raw and he's been sitting there ever since. We

1028
00:46:22,039 --> 00:46:24,280
gotta pretend this guy is a good promo. We gotta

1029
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:27,280
pretend this guy gets anyone over. He gets nobody over.

1030
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,199
Rock Leicester would have been over with her without him anyway. Sorry,

1031
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:35,840
what about All Roman need to do is turn heel?

1032
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,760
How did he was just stand there like a fat pig?

1033
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:38,519
Speaker 4: What about Curtis?

1034
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:41,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're all Curtis Axel, remember they put him with

1035
00:46:41,519 --> 00:46:44,920
Czarro and there was but he is such I uh.

1036
00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:47,000
And then and also when he yelled at somebody at

1037
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,280
the Pack mcavee and the fact that Knight wanted Russell

1038
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,159
and he ended with him, I just like.

1039
00:46:53,559 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 4: Fucking Deck at the Hall of Fame. I was like,

1040
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:59,639
this guy is kind of losing it. Yeah, there's some

1041
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,039
wall closing in somewhere in this guy's life.

1042
00:47:02,079 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 3: Listen. He believes his own hype and that's a problem.

1043
00:47:06,599 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 5: But I really do think that he spent You know,

1044
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:14,159
so many guys, including Saboo, suffered and died because of

1045
00:47:14,159 --> 00:47:16,880
ECW and none of them knew that he was in

1046
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:20,760
Vince's pate ok at the entire time. And to me,

1047
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,519
it's like he and he's never really done anything to

1048
00:47:23,559 --> 00:47:27,039
make it up for these guys. I don't I don't know,

1049
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:28,519
do you guys agree with me with this? I just

1050
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,039
the longer time passes what he does.

1051
00:47:31,159 --> 00:47:33,159
Speaker 4: I think he thrived in an environment where all those

1052
00:47:33,199 --> 00:47:35,840
guys also thought. I mean, you know, with the exception

1053
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,719
of the mid to lower card guys who would get

1054
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,559
no other work in the business, and so they really

1055
00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:41,440
had to wear that thing on their on their sleeves

1056
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,519
so they could get work. Saboo was just as much

1057
00:47:43,519 --> 00:47:45,199
of a manipulator as anybody else.

1058
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 5: You know.

1059
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: That's why that's why I think he and Paul butted

1060
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,400
heads so firmly, was because Saboo thought he could out

1061
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,119
manipulate Paul, you know, and yeah, and kind of play

1062
00:47:54,159 --> 00:47:56,760
him against others and and and and take bigger paydays

1063
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,719
and have Paul come come crying back, which you played

1064
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:00,760
pretty much did what you pretty much did. You know,

1065
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,039
Paul had to do a lot of verbal gymnastics to

1066
00:48:03,039 --> 00:48:04,679
make it seem like it was sort of his good

1067
00:48:04,679 --> 00:48:07,400
graces in the ECW fan's decision to bring back Saboo

1068
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,679
as opposed to him really really wanting seb I mean,

1069
00:48:09,679 --> 00:48:11,719
Sambo at one point made the remark, I remember hearing

1070
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,519
he rate made the remark that, you know, Paul's kind

1071
00:48:13,519 --> 00:48:15,280
of got like a homo erotic thing for me. It

1072
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:20,480
seems like because it's like this these ties that bind

1073
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,320
that should have been snapped, and all the way through

1074
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,960
to you know, the resurrection of ECW and WWE and Paul,

1075
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:27,880
you know, counseling Sabo, as we talked about on the

1076
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,719
tribute on how to get Fonsie in how to Get

1077
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,159
the Best Payday, pushing him pretty strongly on sci Fi

1078
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,360
when Paul had some semblance of the book over there.

1079
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,159
So it wasn't like, you know that re relationship disintegrated

1080
00:48:37,159 --> 00:48:39,519
to the point of no return. But I just think that,

1081
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,159
you know, it was a great environment for someone like

1082
00:48:42,199 --> 00:48:44,880
a Paul Hayman to operate in because he was he

1083
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,840
was dealing with people who hadn't succeeded more than he had,

1084
00:48:49,039 --> 00:48:51,559
and so you know, he was able to he was

1085
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:53,519
able to match them wit for wit and trying to

1086
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,559
get more out of them than they were really being

1087
00:48:56,559 --> 00:49:00,559
fairly compensated to provide. Whereas when he's when with Charles

1088
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,599
w c W, you know, it's it's it's scandals around,

1089
00:49:03,639 --> 00:49:07,440
you know, gimmicking up expenses on the road and having

1090
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:10,119
a fight every six months with management and and all

1091
00:49:10,119 --> 00:49:12,800
that bullshit. So it's it's a he's a fascinating guy.

1092
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,960
I mean that that's probably the journey right there. You know,

1093
00:49:15,039 --> 00:49:16,079
when when we lose.

1094
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:19,280
Speaker 5: I do you think you guys said something with Paul.

1095
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,960
But my whole thing with the roast, it felt very

1096
00:49:22,119 --> 00:49:27,239
it didn't you know, I think the modern w WE fan,

1097
00:49:27,559 --> 00:49:30,679
the modern like the nineteen year old, twenty year old

1098
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,360
is year old day they don't really want like race

1099
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,719
chokes against gingerhole. Also, it is kind of weird to

1100
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,159
be shooting in general hole. The guy was fired, you know,

1101
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,119
the guy's probably never gonna work again. I don't know,

1102
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:44,360
And it kind of came across as weird. The kind

1103
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,599
of came ross. But they're doing it again. I think

1104
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,519
it a roast though, No, because these these wrestlers, like

1105
00:49:52,599 --> 00:49:55,599
did you hear Nia Jackson like basically like basically just

1106
00:49:55,639 --> 00:49:57,599
like shit on Charlotte as a human being.

1107
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,039
Speaker 4: Wow, it wasn't It wasn't a roast at all. It

1108
00:50:00,199 --> 00:50:06,639
was just like, yeah, Caddy sort of like it's.

1109
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 3: Just fucking mean, that's amazing. Oh, I got to listen

1110
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,719
to that audio. That sounds great.

1111
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,360
Speaker 5: It's I I think it's worthy of an episode of

1112
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,679
The Labs Fan the whole roast, I really do. I

1113
00:50:15,719 --> 00:50:18,000
think it's I think it's worthy of a whole episode

1114
00:50:18,039 --> 00:50:20,719
because it really is like it kind of I don't know,

1115
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:23,719
it kind of dispelsing the wrestlers a happy family and stuff.

1116
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,599
But yeah, a lot of people that went didn't enjoy it.

1117
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,400
But again they were they're trying to you know, they're

1118
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,679
trying to take something that that we created. I really

1119
00:50:32,679 --> 00:50:34,840
do think that I will. I will put all my money.

1120
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,800
They got the idea from you guys doing this at

1121
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:41,679
the Comedy Chateau, and you know, hey, listen, great. I'm

1122
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:43,440
sure they're gonna sell a lot of tickets for the next one,

1123
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,320
but it's not labs Fan. And the thing about labs

1124
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:49,280
Fan is you're not gonna We're not gonna have wrestlers

1125
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,960
on because number one, they don't they don't they don't

1126
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,000
know how to run with the joke.

1127
00:50:52,519 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 3: But you guys, they definitely don't know.

1128
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys are way funnier. It's gonna be a

1129
00:50:56,679 --> 00:51:00,159
way better show seeing you guys before SummerSlam that it

1130
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:01,960
would be to go to this rows stuff and listen.

1131
00:51:02,039 --> 00:51:03,920
I love Graborg Glacier. I don't really know Tony Hincliff.

1132
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,599
I love Gregory Lacy. He's a great comic and he

1133
00:51:06,639 --> 00:51:09,119
loves wrestling. I mean I used to talk with him

1134
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:12,239
about Fandango. He made me this is a great story.

1135
00:51:12,519 --> 00:51:14,599
But he had his birthday show at Caroline and I

1136
00:51:14,679 --> 00:51:18,320
was the manager and I played the Fandangle theme in

1137
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:21,039
the lounge and he paused, and he said, can you

1138
00:51:21,079 --> 00:51:22,880
put on that? This is twenty thirteen? Can you put

1139
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,119
on the fandangle theme? And I put it on and

1140
00:51:25,159 --> 00:51:28,159
he fandangoed for five minutes on stage and a lot

1141
00:51:28,199 --> 00:51:30,599
of people and he said, this is a wrestling thing.

1142
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,000
Dance with me, and he started making everyone dance with him.

1143
00:51:33,079 --> 00:51:36,480
Was a great moment, and he loves wrestling. You know.

1144
00:51:36,559 --> 00:51:40,280
I just think the way if he tries to joke

1145
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:44,360
around with these wrestlers, they're just gonna get racist and

1146
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,639
and just cool and mean. And they don't know how

1147
00:51:46,639 --> 00:51:49,239
to have fun or they know how to nail it

1148
00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:51,039
break their bodies, and.

1149
00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 4: They don't know that's exactly right because to them, like

1150
00:51:55,079 --> 00:51:58,079
part of the reason they're successful is at some point alone,

1151
00:51:58,079 --> 00:52:01,000
the way they cut somebody down behind their back, right, Yes,

1152
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,360
And that breeds a certain guardedness that just can't thrive

1153
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,559
in an environment like a comedy stage. You just can't.

1154
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know the thing about it is that I

1155
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,480
think they probably think that they're a bigger deal than

1156
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:16,920
someone like Gabriel Glacier down deep like oh I did.

1157
00:52:17,039 --> 00:52:20,119
But hey, he by himself sold out Dodger Stadium he

1158
00:52:20,159 --> 00:52:23,000
wasn't on a card with other wrestlers, he didn't have

1159
00:52:23,039 --> 00:52:25,519
to have an angle with Andre the Giant. He did

1160
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:27,719
it all by himself. But I think sometimes that eats

1161
00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:29,880
away at these wrestlers that a comedian could do that.

1162
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,119
Speaker 4: You know, that's fascinating.

1163
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,599
Speaker 5: I can fill out a room just by myself talking

1164
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:34,920
into a mic for two hours.

1165
00:52:35,079 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: So what do you say, bos, Should we stop in

1166
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:38,960
on the Hingecliffe thing and stay up till two in

1167
00:52:39,039 --> 00:52:40,880
the morning the night before we do our live show

1168
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:42,039
so we can have some commentary?

1169
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 3: I mean, fuck it? Why not?

1170
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,239
Speaker 5: Oh he didn't say no?

1171
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: Ray?

1172
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:54,079
Speaker 5: Oh wow, Hey maybe go in h listen.

1173
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,119
Speaker 3: I'm gonna be hurting anyway, all right, it's going to

1174
00:52:56,159 --> 00:52:58,079
be a life while it's going to be a weekend

1175
00:52:58,119 --> 00:53:02,760
of just pain and suffering, like fucking just needles in

1176
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:05,239
my body for the whole fucking week. Make it worse.

1177
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,159
Speaker 5: Plus, my favorite mini episodes was when you guys went

1178
00:53:08,199 --> 00:53:13,280
to the Undertaker one Dead Man Show Undertaker JP. You

1179
00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:15,719
have because I listened to his podcast now because I'm

1180
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:25,320
a fucking misogynist. I'm misogynous, different difference, and man, you

1181
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,159
nailed him to a t. He is such a blow Hard.

1182
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,480
He has no good stories. I get the sense he

1183
00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:33,360
didn't like Paul Bear. I get the sense he does

1184
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:39,440
like anybody. Yeah, miserable blow Hard. That basically his whole

1185
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,960
life is. You have to see how great he is even.

1186
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 3: You know, just I just you know, I just I.

1187
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:50,519
Whenever whenever the I hear a reference to the to

1188
00:53:50,599 --> 00:53:54,440
a stupid fucking show, I I I always just picture

1189
00:53:54,519 --> 00:53:58,880
him in his hoodie and just walking around the stage

1190
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:02,159
doing nothing. And I was like, that to me was

1191
00:54:02,199 --> 00:54:04,480
the epitome of what this is. This guy does not

1192
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:09,519
know what he's doing. He's he's got nothing, there is

1193
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:13,159
nothing in there, and it was just it was just awful,

1194
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:15,480
which is why he's perfect for the right.

1195
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:20,119
Speaker 5: Every story on this podcast is the if he tells

1196
00:54:20,159 --> 00:54:22,400
her about the past, the wrestler in the story looks

1197
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,559
like an idiot, including Hulk Hogan, and he looks like

1198
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:27,559
a genius, or he looks at mister Cool or the

1199
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:29,880
fonnds and I'm like, I guarantee you it didn't go

1200
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:32,360
down like that. And the other reason I just tells

1201
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:35,159
you everything about this guy. I know he has a

1202
00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,239
new and now now Michelle mcpoole's his co host, he

1203
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:42,440
had some guy in his own version. He never once

1204
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,679
has ever started the show like this is my co host,

1205
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:48,840
or said his name, or said hey, Kelin Kane's on

1206
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,360
the show. The show just starts and there's this other

1207
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,880
voice on and he never once tells you who this

1208
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:56,719
guy is. And to me, that says to me, because

1209
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,039
you don't consider this guy a human being. He's just

1210
00:54:59,079 --> 00:55:00,559
a means to an end like everyone else is.

1211
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 4: In your brother, I think, what a good way to

1212
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:03,320
do that. We'll just start in talking.

1213
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:07,519
Speaker 5: You know who is this guy? How do you know him?

1214
00:55:07,559 --> 00:55:11,719
Telling me? Fourteen fifteen episodes in I have no idea

1215
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:12,480
what this guy came from.

1216
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 4: Well, I mean he had the podcasts that he had

1217
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:16,960
the fucking ted talk thing on his face, and his

1218
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,960
Hall of Fame speech that abortion, that was his Hall

1219
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,719
of Fame speech, and he has you know, he said

1220
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:25,119
clearly which was clearly meant to be the Hall of

1221
00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:27,360
Fame speech to end Hall of Fame speeches. That was

1222
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,280
like supposed to be the greatest fucking Hall of Fame

1223
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:33,760
speech of all time, and it just sucked. It was

1224
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,920
like it was so bad that I can't even imagine

1225
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,519
that I saw what I saw in retrospect, I can't

1226
00:55:39,559 --> 00:55:42,559
imagine that he thought he was gonna launch basically a

1227
00:55:42,639 --> 00:55:45,639
Tony Robbins gimmick, you know, for the second half of

1228
00:55:45,679 --> 00:55:48,679
his life. And now here he is in a warehouse somewhere,

1229
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,239
shooting for ane, pretending to teach people how to bump,

1230
00:55:51,639 --> 00:55:54,119
and and and and having a podcast that no one

1231
00:55:54,159 --> 00:55:57,599
asked for. He's the ultimate guy that his second his

1232
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,559
second act in life is doing a series of things

1233
00:55:59,559 --> 00:56:00,519
no one asked him to.

1234
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 5: Do exactly exactly because nobody nobody. Once you kind of

1235
00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:08,559
reveal that you don't because he said about I don't

1236
00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:10,400
even remember half of what happened, what.

1237
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:14,559
Speaker 4: I was going, right, if I wasn't the best person.

1238
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 5: And you know, when you have to hear someone talk

1239
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,679
for an hour a week, or you guy's case, seventeen

1240
00:56:19,679 --> 00:56:23,280
hours a week on average, you kind of get a

1241
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,239
sense of who It's almost like you can't hide who

1242
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,000
you are if you're gonna be if you're gonna talk

1243
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:29,360
that long, you can't hide who you are. And you know,

1244
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,840
Bruce Purchet's full of shit. But I kind of get

1245
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,440
the sense, like, all right, this is kind of a

1246
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:37,840
likable bullshitter, but guys an Undertaker and even mcfoley and

1247
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:40,480
Matt Hardy and even for an Angle, but just become

1248
00:56:41,039 --> 00:56:43,039
you start to resent them. You just feel like, yeah, God,

1249
00:56:43,079 --> 00:56:45,679
you have nothing, You have nothing to offer the world.

1250
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 4: We need self deprecation, right, yeah, right, until they sit,

1251
00:56:49,519 --> 00:56:51,239
right until they come out and tell a story that's

1252
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,719
very unflattering about themselves. Right, we're sitting there with our

1253
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,719
hands in our pockets, right because you're telling us stories

1254
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:00,960
about a bunch of people who aren't here to react, right,

1255
00:57:01,159 --> 00:57:03,840
instead of telling us stories that we know only you

1256
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,679
uniquely can tell, because you're giving us an insight into

1257
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,119
your psychology in the moment.

1258
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:10,519
Speaker 3: That that is the key. If you can like it's

1259
00:57:10,599 --> 00:57:14,880
you're you can't really you can't have a podcast like that,

1260
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,599
or really, I mean for most podcasts unless you're doing

1261
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:23,239
unless you're doing a a some kind of a historical

1262
00:57:23,559 --> 00:57:27,199
like strictly historical podcast or whatever. You really cannot do

1263
00:57:27,239 --> 00:57:30,719
a podcast where you create yourself as as as this

1264
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:34,320
star without being able to be self deprecating. You can't.

1265
00:57:34,519 --> 00:57:36,079
You can't. You can't do that and not make fun

1266
00:57:36,119 --> 00:57:38,599
of yourself. You have to be you have to talk

1267
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:42,199
like make fun of yourself. Otherwise it's otherwise you're an

1268
00:57:42,239 --> 00:57:44,800
idiot and you look like a dick, and they come

1269
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:46,960
from a business where if you, if you're like that,

1270
00:57:47,079 --> 00:57:49,559
you're giving your enemies the rope to hang you with, right,

1271
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:52,840
I mean, it's like where where the really the the idea,

1272
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:57,400
the the truth is, you're you're an essentially essentially hanging

1273
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,760
yourself before anyone else can do it. If you if

1274
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,280
you actually just fucking lay it in on yourself like you're,

1275
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,199
you're doing it before anyone else can. And that's fine.

1276
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,239
Speaker 4: And Jeff gets that, and Jeff gets that.

1277
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well, the thing about it is is like I

1278
00:58:11,719 --> 00:58:14,480
kind of had no real opinion of Undertaker as a person.

1279
00:58:14,519 --> 00:58:16,360
I like the character, and he's had a lot of

1280
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:19,800
great matches. Sure, you know Bad ninety seven, But now

1281
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,599
I can't think he's a fucking loser. I like him

1282
00:58:22,639 --> 00:58:25,119
talking for two hours a week has Maybe this guy's

1283
00:58:25,199 --> 00:58:26,239
I would never want to hang out with.

1284
00:58:26,360 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 4: That's why we're lapsed, because yeah, how many times you

1285
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:31,639
have to say this? If you grow up on souper

1286
00:58:31,639 --> 00:58:34,280
spider Man is in fucking Superman, you don't have to

1287
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,039
come to terms with the fact that he's a fucking

1288
00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:39,679
dipshit when you become an adult, right, you don't have

1289
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,039
to confront that we do as wrestling fans, and that

1290
00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:43,119
makes us uniquely.

1291
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 5: You know what's what's really crazy about modern wrestling though,

1292
00:58:47,519 --> 00:58:51,480
is that, like, you know, like the way wrestlers overshare

1293
00:58:51,519 --> 00:58:54,280
on Twitter and Instagram. Like I think this guy Swerve

1294
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:58,039
the way Swerve Scott, but his post on Instagram or

1295
00:58:58,079 --> 00:59:00,880
Twitter wherever it is, he just comes across a complete loser.

1296
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,159
And I'm like, you know what magic It's like you went,

1297
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,639
imagine after WrestleMania is six, you go on the computer

1298
00:59:07,679 --> 00:59:10,039
and Ultra Warriors like complaining about data from there.

1299
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 4: It's you know, it's over. I can't follow this, I

1300
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,519
can That's what I'm saying. That's why the system doesn't

1301
00:59:15,519 --> 00:59:17,239
allow wrestling to be as good as it used to be,

1302
00:59:17,239 --> 00:59:19,840
because there's too many ways to bring these guys down

1303
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,440
to earth, right, and they do it to themselves. It

1304
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,760
turns out they get on national television. You think, okay,

1305
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,599
now we can put the phone down. Now, I don't

1306
00:59:27,639 --> 00:59:33,039
need all of this external you know, sort of re reinforcement.

1307
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,280
I don't need it anymore because I've made it. No,

1308
00:59:35,400 --> 00:59:39,840
it's just begun. It's just begun. They've only begun to

1309
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:44,440
send themselves into a self destructive psychosis around what these people,

1310
00:59:44,599 --> 00:59:47,159
you know, these randoms that they can't stop talking about

1311
00:59:47,199 --> 00:59:50,400
somehow that they're random, they don't mean anything, but every

1312
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:51,800
other word out of their mouth has something to do

1313
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:52,079
with it.

1314
00:59:53,199 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 5: They quote heat, I don't want to say this good day.

1315
00:59:55,039 --> 00:59:58,079
But they constantly go after this one podcaster who I

1316
00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:01,159
think is a loser, and they yell at him for

1317
01:00:01,199 --> 01:00:04,679
his opinions. And this guy. You cannot convince this guy

1318
01:00:04,719 --> 01:00:07,159
that he doesn't matter, because it's like, hey, you just

1319
01:00:07,199 --> 01:00:09,159
wrestled on live TV, and then you go to your

1320
01:00:09,159 --> 01:00:11,119
phone and to yell at me because I don't like

1321
01:00:11,199 --> 01:00:14,480
the show, I must matter. So you're making these people

1322
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:15,519
think they matter. You know.

1323
01:00:16,639 --> 01:00:18,239
Speaker 4: That's all that's left of what it means to be

1324
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,519
a wrestling fan. It doesn't. You can't. You can't get

1325
01:00:20,519 --> 01:00:22,760
wrapped up in it being a real fight anymore. That

1326
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,039
that's impossible. You can't. You can't have favorites anymore because

1327
01:00:26,039 --> 01:00:28,320
everyone has to be uh, you know, because you get

1328
01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:31,320
made fun of for having favorites. So what are we

1329
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:31,880
doing here?

1330
01:00:32,159 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 5: Boss?

1331
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,239
Speaker 4: What are we doing here?

1332
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,519
Speaker 5: Listen? You know what I'll tell you what we're doing.

1333
01:00:35,519 --> 01:00:37,719
I'll tell you what we're doing. Jack and GP. We're

1334
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:38,880
the biggest party of the summer.

1335
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:41,639
Speaker 3: Let me tell you we're gonna I'll tell you what.

1336
01:00:42,639 --> 01:00:44,400
You know what, I'll tell you what. I'll tell you this.

1337
01:00:44,400 --> 01:00:47,079
This is what it is. Really. Let summer Slam be

1338
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,199
the biggest party of the summer. Okay, that's fine, they

1339
01:00:49,199 --> 01:00:52,039
can have that. We're gonna be the biggest pain of

1340
01:00:52,079 --> 01:00:52,519
the summer.

1341
01:00:53,079 --> 01:00:57,119
Speaker 5: Yes. Perfect. By the way, I know you guys need

1342
01:00:57,159 --> 01:01:00,199
a verry funk giveaway to Uh, you want to do

1343
01:01:00,239 --> 01:01:03,280
a SID giveaway. I haven't listened to. I can't believe

1344
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,000
you got that many hours out of SID. By the way,

1345
01:01:05,039 --> 01:01:06,039
don't tell me how you did it.

1346
01:01:06,599 --> 01:01:08,000
Speaker 3: But you want to give away the show.

1347
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:13,000
Speaker 5: But you guys should give away something that relates to

1348
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,760
especially your blocks away from his big title win, the

1349
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:17,559
biggest night of his life, survivor series.

1350
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:23,719
Speaker 3: Night could what it could be? You know, we could

1351
01:01:23,719 --> 01:01:28,000
just get a we get a bunch of I get

1352
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:31,599
like a you know, a whole pack of Vienna's.

1353
01:01:32,039 --> 01:01:33,719
Speaker 4: We could give away the actual vienna is that the

1354
01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:34,480
Church sent us.

1355
01:01:34,519 --> 01:01:38,239
Speaker 3: That's just true, that's true. I mean, if we have them.

1356
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,639
Speaker 4: Would we Oh my god, so many possibilities. Yeah, maybe

1357
01:01:43,679 --> 01:01:45,239
we'll bring some fun giveaway at him. So that I

1358
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,000
got so much ship around true, we got so much ship,

1359
01:01:48,719 --> 01:01:50,079
oh my god.

1360
01:01:51,239 --> 01:01:54,880
Speaker 5: S with Terry Funk and now Sid. I mean, I

1361
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,000
know you did Saboo, but Saboo wasn't as long as Sid.

1362
01:01:58,519 --> 01:02:00,639
So I don't know, something maybe like a rough shirt

1363
01:02:00,679 --> 01:02:04,199
in like the way Sid warks Summerson. Wow, he really

1364
01:02:04,239 --> 01:02:06,039
has a big history in New York City. Summerson in

1365
01:02:06,119 --> 01:02:06,800
ninety one.

1366
01:02:06,719 --> 01:02:08,559
Speaker 4: When he had the he always used to say, yeah,

1367
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,280
I'm over that. You know when they'd go when NWA

1368
01:02:11,519 --> 01:02:13,239
when he was with Dan Spivey would go to Philly

1369
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:14,880
or in the East Coast cities, they would go nuts

1370
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,840
for Sid without him even being pushed as a baby face.

1371
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:21,199
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, man, I'm excited because like so I

1372
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:23,760
just says I'm a year behind on every podcast I

1373
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:26,719
listened to a lot, and you you ended Barry Alive

1374
01:02:26,840 --> 01:02:28,440
the last episode I heard. You're like, yeah, we're gonna

1375
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,599
like really talk very briefly about Sid and then uh

1376
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,320
the ninety seven raw or he wins the Belot and

1377
01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:36,519
I'm like, I know that. It's like four months of

1378
01:02:36,599 --> 01:02:40,840
Si wit. How did this balloon into low? Almost as

1379
01:02:40,840 --> 01:02:43,039
long as Terry fun But I'm excited because I do

1380
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,800
love Sid. I do think he's a guy that people

1381
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:48,800
shot on unnecessarily. He's not as bad as everyone says

1382
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:51,559
he is, and he had something that really you can't teach.

1383
01:02:51,639 --> 01:02:53,159
I don't know if you guys said that, but he does.

1384
01:02:53,559 --> 01:02:55,599
Speaker 4: Well, how does it balloon? That's the question you put

1385
01:02:55,599 --> 01:02:57,880
to the solar system? Right, Well, you're gonna get a

1386
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,400
good front row seat on how it? Let it balloon?

1387
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,719
High noon, August third, Comedy Village three fifty two West

1388
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,280
forty fourth Street and Times Square. The CoA chairman take

1389
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:10,960
the stage once again to lay the law down. We

1390
01:03:11,039 --> 01:03:14,920
are well, we are the regulators, we are the deciders,

1391
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,760
and let us issue forth many final opinions.

1392
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:22,320
Speaker 3: And if if we're ballooning, if we're ballooning, you keep

1393
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:23,800
your balloon not tight.

1394
01:03:25,559 --> 01:03:27,119
Speaker 4: Right, Thanks for being with us again and thanks for

1395
01:03:27,119 --> 01:03:28,519
the help. Thanks for putting up the bat signal.

1396
01:03:28,519 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 5: We're headed to Gotham, guys, and listen again. If you're

1397
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:34,159
in the area, don't hesitate. It'll be easy to get to,

1398
01:03:34,239 --> 01:03:36,400
it'll be easy to get out. Go check out blabsphere.

1399
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,920
You're not going to regret it. Thank you so much, guys,

1400
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,079
always a pleasure working with you.

1401
01:03:39,239 --> 01:03:40,280
Speaker 4: TLF Live Bitch.

1402
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 3: It is a production of the Lab Entertainment Group. Its

1403
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:49,760
content is intended for reven use only.

1404
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 5: We want