Speaker 1: NHL picks and predictions for Monday, December twenty second. Welcome
to puck Time on wager Talk TV. Andrew Prez and
Carmine with you guys. Smaller slate today as usual on Monday,
and then a jam packed and I mean jam packslate
on Tuesday.
Speaker 2: Look forward to breaking it all down.
Speaker 1: We've got a great deal for you guys as well
here today going for the three of us at wager
talk dot com. But lots to get to loss to discuss,
and it was a pretty good weekend in the NHL
One of Action. I'll tell you what. Some of these teams,
carm like, your Buffalo Sabers just won't go away. How
about those Sabers?
Speaker 3: How about those Sabers. A new era has started. Andrew.
I'm actually really happy about it because it's not about
just the fact that the team is winning. It's the team.
It's the fact that the team cleaned out the all
of management, the head office. They cleaned it all out.
They got rid of the dry rot that's been there
since twenty what, twenty fourteen or whatever how long it's
been since they made the playoffs. Bringing the guy who
served at Columbus, who's made some very good trades. He's
brought in some guys, Mark Bergevan he brought in on
Sunday as well too, and they're looking to make some trades.
I'm hearing some rumors Alex Tuck going to get moved
a couple of trades, possibly with Vancouver, to bring in
some guys who want to play. The insurance guy could
be you know the guy I say tries to sell
the insurance Carnor Garland of Vancouver. He could end up
in a Buffalo, Sabers, Jersey Andrew after this trade freeze
is over. But yeah, one in one in the NHL
for me last night, four percent play on Ottawa was
a winner. I had a first first period over in
the Sabers and in New Jersey game. Jack Hughes scored
early in that one in his return to the line up,
but they couldn't get a second one. So one in
one night with a little bit of profit. I didn't
really watch any sports at all last night, guys. I
wasn't even on end Zone Live Massive Migraines yesterday. I
was like a mushroom. I spent my whole day in
the dark. But with that said, nobody wants nobody cares.
Let's bring in the press. Press. How you doing? Man?
Speaker 4: With that? I even told you to see how you
are doing?
Speaker 3: Yes you are, yeah, and I thank you very much
for it. It is Listen. It goes back to my
accident of twenty fifth, twenty fifteen brain injury. I get
these migraines and when they come, they're absolutely horrible. And
my wife just kind of left me alone in the bedroom.
I kept the lights off and every once in a
while I just check a score and stuff. Because I
had a five percent play on the over in the
Dallas game, which won Dallas and that didn't make it. Yeah,
I know, and the Chargers and that was the only
positive of my NHL. And this is why I say
I I say, you know, I mean I'd rather win
the bulk of the plays than one specific play. You know,
I lose three four percent plays and I win a
five percent play. People who bought the fives and only
the fives are happy. But I also have long term
clients and I wouldn't be happy. So with that said, press,
you understand it.
Speaker 4: Yesterday too, car I went I went three and two
yesterday and lost the five percent on the Baltimore Ravens.
Let's move on.
Speaker 3: Press, Okay, so we are going to move on on
today's show, We're going to cover all four games guys.
Press is going to do before he takes off to
do his show, The Blues and the Lightning. Andrew and
I will do Vancouver and Philadelphia, Seattle, N nine, Columbus
and the La Kings. We may have the same game party.
We definitely do have a pod And just as we
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Speaker 4: Press, Oh, pres is pretzels? How long did that take?
What does it say? I need my glasses?
Speaker 2: Sometimes salty, but always twisted. The press.
Speaker 4: Sometimes twisted and always salty. Feels like a what But
thanks for that, Andrew. Look at you guys with graphics
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Each and every day they tune in and watch that.
But with that said, Press Lightning two thirty seven Blues
six and a half is the number here Blues Officer
prizing win against the Florida Panthers. If Florida was gonna choke,
they couldn't have done it the night before when I
had called Carolina as a brutal beat brutal.
Speaker 4: Brute three nothing with like six to go, and they
pull it out in overtime. You know, Carl, this light
is fascinating. I'm just gonna let you know I'm obviously
on the same play that I'm always on the under,
but let's talk about the side for a second here.
If you have to bet the side, I don't know
how you can take Tampa Bay. This is a team
that is just I mean, yeah, sure, they beat Carolina
six four yesterday and they played well, they held the park,
they outshot them. But other than that, they've lost three
or four they've lost. They've won three games in their
last ten, three games in their last ten. Hard to
bet at that team, and they're minus two thirty.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 4: I understand the Saint Lewis Blues. They're not some juggernaut,
but hey, they're better than the Tampa Bay Lightning. In
the last two games, three games, four games, five games,
ten games, Tampa Bay is at least one five Saint
Louis is at least one five of their last ten.
You know, I just I look at this and I
cannot make heads or tails on why Tampa Bay would
be favored so much. But I just don't like the
spot with Saint Louis, and I do actually think the
time might be right to start looking to bet on
Tampa Bay. So I like Tampa Bay here because I
think they're about to go on a run. But not
at that number, and I'm not gonna take the regulation
bet either. It's just way too high, and I don't
want to take Saint Louis after that win, So I'm
gonna look to take the under here, guys. And it
feels like every time I come on here, I give
out the under. But hey, pat on my back. Every
time I come on here, I win as well. You
look at this under, and you know this is what
those teams, both teams where you see a lot of
ones and twos. Florida Saint Louis just played Florida. Florida
scored two against the New York Rangers. Saint Louis scored one.
The Rangers scored two against Winnipeg. Saint Louis scored one.
Winnipeg scored zero. Against Nashville. Saint Louis scored two against Chicago.
Chicago scored two. Nashville scored two, Boston scored two. And
it's the same with Tampa Bay ones and twos. I
understand their last game with six and or, but or
that they put up one against Lay they led in two.
They put up two against Florida, New York Islanders. They
scored two against Montreal, Montreal put up one, Toronto put
up two, New York Islanders put up two, and on
and on and on and on. A lot of ones
and twos. When these teams play each other. There is
a couple of sixes out there, but predominantly the line
is five and a half. If sixes were all around,
this would be a client play. I do not bet
a lot of money on under five and a half,
but I will take it. That's where we're going. It's
the one and two angle boys under.
Speaker 3: For me, little one too. I like it. Pres you know,
you look at this one and uh, you know, obviously
some of those losses for Tampa Bay came with Johansson
in goal. They were missing Baskalski for a little part
of it. But this is a team that, you know,
I want to say is is a very good home team.
They have proven to be it. But they were on
a four game losing streak and they're third. I think
they're They have the third wet the third worst home
record at nine and nine nine nine. Yeah, yeah, with
only a one, you know, minus one goal differential. But
getting that win over Carolina, and I think Carolina is
one of the one of the best teams in the
Eastern Conference, of course, and they're currently on top with
the Red Wings right behind them. I have to believe
getting that win over Carolina probably kick starts them again
for a couple of days, at least before this Christmas break.
I wind lay two thirty seven, I'd probably look at
regulation to this one. I just I just have a
feeling that some of these teams, you know, you look
at teams like the Blues, Vancouver, Seattle, maybe even Columbus. Tonight,
are you ready to start that winter winter break? Get
home to their families. The ones that don't play tomorrow,
get home and start that little Christmas break with their
families for four days until they have to play again
on Sunday. What do you get to promote? Ahead?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I no know what I wanted to tell you,
because you and I talk about shows all the time.
I want to promote a television show. Okay, I just
finished season two. Now. This show is the most not
Laurence show ever. It's called Marvelous Missus masl It is
a female driven show that most females would like. And
yet here i'd myself obsessed. I mean, I have not
been so into a show in a long time. I mean,
it's been a long long time since I have liked
to show this much. It's probably the best written show
dialogue wise, maybe since Newsroom. Maybe even better than Newsroom.
It could be. It's a top three dialogue written show
of all time. The main character, well, other than the
fact that she is just delicious, is exceptional in every
possible manner. Carm I don't know if you've watched it,
but I cannot recommend the show more. No.
Speaker 3: I just started watching the other day. I watched this
followed because I saw I was trending, and so I'm
watching it and it's season two. I'm like, I don't
understand any of this. But I didn't know season two.
Speaker 4: Oh that's funny, so.
Speaker 3: I read I started watching season one with Withstasia.
Speaker 4: Well, I would I would stop right now. I would
stop right now and go to missus masl because firstly,
your wife will like it a lot more. Secondly, people
in the chat room agree it was a great show, carm.
If you are not hooked within the first ten minutes,
I give up. That show's incredible. As far as what
do I have to promote tonight, I have an NFL
bet up for my clients. I went three and two yesterday,
but I lost my five percent. It was on Baltimore.
It wasn't my fault. Lamar Jackson got injured. They almost
still got it done. I am absolutely rolling in NFL,
even with losing my five percent yesterday. And guys, I
am on an eleven and two totals run in the
NFL and it is a total tonight. So head over
to wager Talk. Check that out, take a look at
missus masle exceptional show. Thanks for having me, guys. Let's
of love everybody, and I don't see you guys again,
which I won't have a wonderful holiday. Yes, I saw
Slow Horses season one. It was slow is the key word. Yes,
I like you.
Speaker 3: I like it.
Speaker 4: I didn't not like it. I thought it was okay.
I just felt like it didn't deserve me to continue
because it was just too damn slow. And the other
thing is it was a cliche. And that's the one
thing about British detective shows. They're all cliches. How many old,
badly dressed tweed curmudgeons do you need as a main character?
Like are we not past that trope?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Did you watch the new episode of Land.
Speaker 4: Man, I haven't watched any episodes of season two. I
wait till they all come out. But I did watch.
I did watch. Now you see me? Now you don't
last night?
Speaker 2: Are you a binger? Like a full on? Like, how
many episodes do you watch at once? When you dude?
Speaker 4: Okay, so missus Masel, I binged seven episodes the first day, seven,
which is nuts.
Speaker 1: I've got a bunny that will make fun of me
for how much I'm on my phone all the time.
But then then he'll be like, yeah, I just started
the show yesterday and now I'm on season five, and
I'm like, okay, well I get it.
Speaker 2: I'm on my phone a lot.
Speaker 1: But you just watched like forty hours of TV, Like
that's you know.
Speaker 3: Alright, grabbed a box of pretzels? All right, that's luck
to you.
Speaker 2: There we go, press get there you go. I had
to put that out there on the phone.
Speaker 3: God. And this is what happens when you give up
fifty seven year old man like myself, Chad GPT, I
just start doing random stuff.
Speaker 1: How much comes in those pretzels? Carm what's the THHC percentage?
Speaker 3: Oh? I should have put the side of the box there, yes,
recommended serving sizes one. Yeah, you can never have more
than one press pretzel. Andrew, there's some weird lines tonight.
You know, we talk about freaky Fridays and those and
those big lines. Like every line tonight, with the exception
of this game we're going to talk about right now,
is in that two hundred minus two hundred range, and
I think it's it's a little dangerous with those ones.
But this is one. You know, everyone kind of expected
Vancouver Cannects to just fall off, maybe start selling after
the whole Quinn Hughes deal. But boom lo and behold,
they won every game. I think. Since I think that
for perfect four and zero road trip thus far minus
one thirty seventh for Philadelphia, I'm seeing on Roto that
Dan Vadhar is confirmed as the goalie Vancouver plus one
thirteen year total six here, five and a half. Are
you playing this?
Speaker 1: I mean, Karl, I'm looking at my numbers here, like
you've got some really good goaltenders playing overall today. But
Thatcher Demco say, percentage versus expected it has been phenomenal,
like if he's the starter for them, it's been really
good to see. But also sometimes I look at some
of these advanced metrics for goaltenders, and you can try
and find a way to fade a certain goalie. Right
there's certain metrics I look towards where I'm like, Okay,
this is very impressive for this goalie. But there's certain
metrics I look towards certain for certain goaltenders, and you think, Okay,
maybe this goaltender is just overachieving. Maybe some of these
numbers just can't be sustained and can't be maintained. I mean,
right now, say percentage versus expect here, I'll give you
an idea. So Jordan Bennington, say, percentage versus expected percentage
is minus two point nine percent. For thatcher Demko it's
plus two point eight percent.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't.
Speaker 1: Think the average would be like, you know, give or
take zero point six, zero point seven, zero point five whatever.
So for thatcher Dempko to have a two point eight
percent in the positive, I think he's overachieving just a
little bit here. And you look at Dan Vollard though
Valdar himself he's one point one percent positive as far
as that's concerned. His save percentage is still super good.
And I have liked what I've seen out of him overall.
So and this number overall, as you mentioned, Karen, like
I get it, the Vancouver Canucks are the Vancouver Canucks,
so we can kind of understand why the number is
what it is. But if there is a team today
for us to fade and go against when it comes
to a hot streak, even though I've told you I'm
gonna try and make it a habit in twenty twenty
six to not go against hot teams as much, because
you know that's one thing that's gotten me in trouble
this year, this could.
Speaker 2: Be a really good day to do it.
Speaker 1: Now, what I'm gonna ask you, Karen, is do you
think that during this streak the Canucks have had impressive
teams to go against? Or was it a Devil's team
still dealing with injuries? Was it a Bruins team that
we expected to see defensive regression? Was it a Rangers
team that overall has been god awful at home at
Madison Square Garden? How about the New York Islanders. You know,
maybe they'll start coming back down to earth again. So
when you look at those four games, how many are
we really impressed with? And if you also take a
look now, just at this particular spot play, you have
to think right now, their next game is until Saturday.
You gotta think, man, this is like the perfect example
of positivity as far as man, We're feeling pretty good
about ourselves. We've got a pretty good job, We've won
a handful of straight games, we lost our captain. We're
looking pretty good. Liam has looked pretty good, you know,
Zeve Bullam has looked really good. But I think you've
got a Flyers team that's now lost three or last
four games. This is a team that I'm interested in here,
and I just think the spot is a good spot
for the We had a question talking in the chat about,
you know, whether or not you want to bet on
home teams. Here's the deal, Car, You've got one team
here tonight that this is their last game until Saturday,
one team front half of a back to back, And
you and I were talking backstage together, and you inform
me about the goaltending situation. Sometimes these days, coaches like
to go with their best goalie in the first game
of the back to back, or sometimes they like to
go with their best goalie in second half of back
to back. I liked to pretty much base my decision
on what the coach is telling us. You know, hey,
we're putting the number one goalie out tonight. They want
to win this one tonight. But the Flyers have a
really good opport unity, carm They play the Vancouver Canucks
and then the Chicago Blackhawks, two of the bottom feeders.
I think it's a good opportunity. Why can't the Philadelphia
Flyers go to and o their next two games? Why
can't they win both games here on a Monday and
Tuesday night. You know, also for viewers in Canada it
is the prime Monday night hockey game as well tonight.
Speaker 3: I hate the stupid prime hockey games. We're never gonna
be We're never gonna be sponsored by Amazon, so I'm
not really worried about it, and they're not gonna take
They're not gonna take it out of me anyways. We
have so many Amazon boxes that arrive at our house.
But with that said, Andrew, it's like, as far as
your question of how impressed am I with the wind streak,
I get it. You can only bet that you can
only play the teams they put in front of you.
But you know, from from a pure analytics point of view.
You look at this Vancouver four game wind wind streak
that they have, and uh, they were on the wrong
end of the analytics in the three to four games,
and the other one was pretty close too to one
game against the Devils too eighty six to one forty
nine XG, the game against the Rangers, who can't seem
to score goals on home ice to save their lives
to ninety seven to twenty two. The game against the
Islanders is the only one in which they had the
XG on that one, three point fifty three to three
twenty three. The Islanders injuries of course, with Horvat and
who else is missing Paul Mary And then you look
at their last one they beat. They beat the Boston Bruins,
who couldn't get out of their own way defensively, and
they only created one point eight two of XG while
scoring four goals. The fifth one, of course, was a
shootout in which the Bruins missed all seven shots in
the shootout. Four point one five was the XG for
the Boston Bruins. So I get a lot of people
don't like XG, but sometimes you can look at it
and say, Okay, this team is overperforming in their numbers.
At some point there has to be a decline in it,
and I think it could very well start tonight. So
I'm willing to lay the one thirty seven went to
the Philadelphia Flyers tonight.
Speaker 1: Carmen, How many people do you think are going to
be all over the Canucks just based on how hot
they're playing right now?
Speaker 2: Like, I'm curious.
Speaker 1: I know that some people might look at I'm looking
at odds logic right now. You know, I know that
people saying hockey's not really the sport that we necessarily
have to look towards splits, you know, not really much
of a split type of sport. But I'm curious to
see what type of public money we will see come
in if we're talking about public dogs. Do you think
Vancouver will all of a sudden be a team people
want to bet tonight because of the streak they're on.
Speaker 3: No, I don't. Here's here's what I think is gonna
happen with Vancouver regardless of what happens tonight, and I
think Philadelphia is the right spot Tonight. Doesn't mean they're
going to win, it doesn't just based on the fact
that three of the four games that Vancouver has played,
They've been on the wrong end of what should have
been the final score, and yet they won. What is
going to happen with Vancouver is Vancouver is going to
be selling off pieces of their team. I know that
is going to happen. Was it Sherwood, He's going to
be gone. This is all about the contracts. Vancouver is
going to rebuild Andrew. I have to believe they're going
to rebuild Carner Garland, whose I think it becomes a
restricted free agent at some point, so you've got to
get him now before he becomes one. They're going to
let him go because they're not going to resign him.
The guy works, the guy scores some goals. I think this.
I think at some point you're gonna have to start
playing against this Vancouver team. I'm going to do it tonight,
but I'm also going to be looking at playing against
this team again during the second half of the season
or after the Christmas break, because I have to figure
that this is a team that's going to finish in
the bottom three or four in the Western Conference. So yeah,
those are my thoughts on the as far as the
Vancouver Connects go.
Speaker 1: That's how I feel about and I'm gonna hold myself this,
everybody in the chat hold me to this, because yesterday
I looked long and hard at taking the Avalanche on
the money line or team total or whatever. It was
big match up for them against Quinn Hughes and the
Minnesota Wild, and I just couldn't get there, you know.
And again it's like you need to find those teams
you circle in the second half of the season that
you're gonna bet against. But also, there's nothing wrong with
the keep it simple, stupid Like I love listening to
the audience, and I love taking advice from you, Karm
and everybody else out there.
Speaker 2: We all share and want to win together.
Speaker 1: And somebody commented last week Andrew, I love your thought process,
love how you're handicapping. You're trying to complicate things too much.
And then yesterday I see the Avalanche and I don't
take I don't bet on them. It's like, Karm, you know,
I know some people that will look at the score
sheet and be like, Okay, I'll take this team tonight,
and I'm not taking the obvious plays sometimes, you know,
I'm trying to reinvent the wheels sometimes and sometimes, like
you said, the Canucks are gonna trade off, the Saint
Louis Blues are gonna trade off. Well, the value is
still there. We have to fade some of these teams
and habs. Relicant here talking about this and some other
guys as well talking about it with the Rick talk
at revenge factor.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that much you know how much
that really.
Speaker 1: Matters, but it is something kind of cool because he
does know how those players play, so it certainly couldn't
hurt as well. Guys, we have the flash forty eight
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Speaker 3: It's a seven seven day pass. I'm like terrible, I
keep telling you guys over and over again, Andrew terrible
amouting myself, But like, you know, I look at some
of the things that as we're nearing the end of
the year, you know, I mean NHL, you know, I
love the way the season is going to going to
finish off, and that was It's been a good start
at the very least I don't want to call it
a start because we're like going thirty thirty five day,
thirty five games into it. But like even stuff like
college football, I wasn't even aware of the fact that
in the last thirty days of college football, I am
fifteen and two up forty five units, which is number
one at wager talk amongst all people who do college football,
and six and one I believe with the bowl games,
in the playoffs and the CFBF playoffs. So a great
start there. And some people have taken advantage of that
one hundred and twenty nine dollars ball package that is
still available, and we'll see if we can keep that going.
But with that said, Andrew, I'm going to make a prediction,
and we're gonna have to clip this prediction at some point.
I say there's going to be a blockbuster deal between
the Buffalo Sabers and the Vancouver Canucks, going with the
new management, new GM, new assistant GM that they have
in Buffalo and the supposed talents that just doesn't work
in Buffalo. Here is what's going to happen, Andrew. They
are I don't know who's they're going to get in return.
I can probably name a couple of players. The Buffalo
Sabers are going to move on from Owen Power. They're
going to move on from Jack Quinn, who's a decent forward.
I think he scored the other day. Both players will
be making the trip to Vancouver and becoming part of
the Canucks team. The Sabers are going to get Connor
Garland Sherwood. They have cap space the Sabers in order
to cover these guys, and they may get someone else
in return. I think it's a good deal for the
Buffalo Sabers, easy deal, but one that's going to work.
What do you think?
Speaker 1: I like that, Karmen, and I think that the Buffalo
Sabers are in kind of a funny point right now
because you know, this year might not be the year
because they gave himselfs a tough start and anything could happen.
But next year, I'd watch out for the Buffalo Sabers
with all the moves they're going to make.
Speaker 3: They're not they're not looking for this year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, a coaching bump can be a thing, but guess what,
a general manager bump can be a thing as well.
And I talked about this on the show last week.
They weren't going to start making trades until Kevin Adams
was fired, because you know that once Kevin Adams started
to rebuild, that rebuild wasn't going to involve him anyway, right,
So any players that he traded for, he knew that
they weren't going to be his players anyway.
Speaker 2: He was going to be gone.
Speaker 1: So now they made some trades, or now that they
picked up new management, and they can start making some
moves now, because typically that's what happens is you get
rid of your GM and then the GM starts splashing
around in the market. Because let's be honest, the the
quote unquote rebuild the Buffalo Sabers are going to do
is much different than what the Canucks are going to
have to do, because, yeah, the Sabers already have a
ton of pieces they almost just have to retool, you know,
but the Canucks are about to go into a full rebuild.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. And you know, the thing is that
the Sabers aren't going to make the moves to try
and get into the playoffs this year because they're not
deep enough to you know, they can make the playoffs.
But at the end of the day, it is about
the new management. The guy they had in there was
absolutely horrible, made some huge mistakes with the team. The
whole thing with Jack Eichel through them for the loop,
Tuck was Tuck was good. You know, you got they
got a good return there, but it wasn't a fair return.
Everything else was pretty much garbage in that deal for
for the Sabers. But this is a move I think
for the future for them. And you know, we always
use that analogy Guys, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Well,
this is broke. They need to fix it it. Just
like a team about fifteen to twenty minutes south of
my office here in Toronto that's broken and they refuse
to fix it. How embarrassing that this team with this
that payroll in Toronto and I somehow turned this into
a Toronto thing. But we'll get to Seattle and Anaheim
in a second. That this team they're just not playing
for their coach anymore. And you can't blame the coach.
How many coaches do you have to go through? You know,
I mean like Moses or Jesus himself is not going
to come in and sit behind the bench and help him.
Maybe Connor Mcjesus might be able to play for the team.
The Leafs are in turmoil. They're going to miss the
playoffs the way they're playing right now. I didn't think
it was gonna happen. It's gonna happen, Andrew, Let's talk.
Let's talk some Ducks and cracking. The Anaheim Ducks one
ninety three my favorite team for scoring goals, cracking, Raven
Ron's favorite team. If he's around plus one fifty seven
total sits here six and a half, and hind totals
are always going to be six and a half. I
had the totals at Best Bet on a Saturday night
and the Ducks, the Ducks and the Columbus Blue Jackets
got it done. So I was pretty happy about that one.
Where are you going with this one?
Speaker 1: Carm I had the Seattle Cracking on the weekend, and
I can probably tell you there's been maybe two times
all year that I've taken the cracking. You're not going
to catch me back in that team very much, but
I kind of liked that spot. And I was kind
of for about one minute two minutes debating this with
Jesse Schule that I thought that right now, the San
Jose Sharks are actually becoming overvalued.
Speaker 2: We'll see.
Speaker 1: You know, they're a playoff team at this point, or
at least competing for a playoff spot. But at this point,
I was like, okay, you know what, this is a
good night to get Seattle. Seattle got called out by
their coach, and you know, they they were a team
that just can't generate offense. Right, That's kind of the
biggest trouble with them is they just cannot generate offense
very well. Now this is a team, though, with the
Anaheim Ducks that we all know have very very poor
defensive metrics, right, Like Carmen, you look at last five games,
last ten games, whatever it is, the expected goals against,
it's always extremely high when it comes to the Anaheim Ducks,
Like they're usually in the top ten, top five, top
fifteen at the very least. So when I look at
this game, especially being close to the holiday season as well,
I think I'm looked towards the over You know, Seattle,
they're actually top ten and expected goals for in the
last ten games, and you look at their recent scores.
This is the team that I've seen them play in
some more competitive games, right, Like they played the Avalanche
they played them tough. They put a couple of goals
on the board against them. That game against the Sharks,
I was in press with their offensive scoring, uh, the
way that they were able to create chances, the way
they were able to neutralize the possession. I just felt
like they look like a better team in that one.
But whenever I decided I'm going to fade the Ducks
in any way or say anything about the other team,
I just want to bet the overcarm. That's all I
want to do when it comes to them, Like that
game against the Jackets. That game was crazy from start
to finish. But I see no reason why we can't
see another one going on tonight.
Speaker 2: Now correct me if I'm wrong here, Carm. Let me
just put it this way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So this is this is the only This is
the last game for both of the for for the
for the Ducks before the holiday break. Maybe they're already
looking forward to it, right, Maybe they're looking back looking saying, okay.
Speaker 2: This is our last game.
Speaker 1: A lot of guys in the chat were saying this
as well, the last home game for some of these teams.
We see some goals Seattle, they play LA on Tuesday
and It's kind of hard to say, Carm, which one
is the year one at this point because the Ducks
are actually a pretty decent team this season. But if
I'm Seattle, I kind of want to have this game
where I'm well rested playing a poor defensive team then
having to be the second half of a back to
back against an LA Kings team. So if you're the
Seattle Kraken right now, Carm, you know which game would
you say looks more winnable tonight against the Ducks or
tomorrow against the Kings. And so I think the Crack
and score tonight, but I think they might struggle tomorrow.
And I'll tell you what I'll tell you right now.
If the Krack and win tonight, then I'll be fading
them tomorrow against the LA Kings. If they win tonight
especially and if they lose tonight, we'll be looking at
some type of play that can maybe have them get
out to a good start, maybe a first period over
or something like that against the Kings.
Speaker 2: But in an ideal world, we see the game go.
Speaker 1: Over, the Krack can put some goals on the board,
and then we find a way to fade them tomorrow
against the LA I love looking at this stuff, especially
on the small slates on Monday, but especially going into
a holiday break right because you've got the other.
Speaker 2: There's only three.
Speaker 1: There's three teams that are playing today that also play tomorrow,
the Flyers, the Kraken, and the Kings. Flyers play Canucks
today and tomorrow, Chicago kracking today, LA tomorrow and LA today,
Columbus and Seattle tomorrow. So those are interesting spots calm
to think about when you're doing the handicapping.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Andrew, I want you to fill up your coffee
because I need you to wake up when I when
I say what I'm about to say to you in
this one, I am going to take Seattle to win
this game. Plus in this one, listen, I get it.
I talk about when a team comes out of a
long losing streak, I want to sort of double up
with them, and maybe doubling up against an Anaheim team
that plays higher scoring games, plays open ice games. I
wouldn't want to take Seattle against a very very strong
defensive side, but that's not Anaheim. You look at some
of the x G numbers that we talk about the
last game against Columbus three sixty four to three. Oh five,
three sixty two to two point five against the Stars
three sixty five to three oh five Duckston Rangers. They
allowed five point one to the Devils, they allowed three
point five to the Islanders. They allowed six point four
to six to the Pittsburgh Penguins. So they give teams
high danger chances. They give teams opportunities to score. When
you're in a slump, you don't score. But they somehow
found the way against a Shark's team that had or
had been playing some of its best hockey on home ice.
So it wouldn't surprise me at all if Seattle goes
in and beats Anaheim. Their last twelve games, Seattle has
only won two games. Both games came against California teams.
They beat San Jose and they beat the lak So
maybe it's maybe it's something in the water in California.
They still have water in California. I believe Dan Alexander
would let us know if he was our producer. But
I'm going to go with Seattle plus one fifty seven,
and then I'll segue into the next one while I
wait for Andrew to come back. The La Kings and
Columbus Boys. There is nothing in my tea this morning.
I didn't spike it. I seem to like a lot
of dogs on today's card, or at least in the
last couple of games. But the Kings are one seventy
five here, Columbus is plus one forty four. And I'm
just gonna write down a quick note here this one
total since here at five and a half. Here's the
one thing about Columbus. And you don't see a lot
of this stuff in the news because it isn't reported.
They played one of their better games in losing to
the nim Ducks four to three. In that one. Management
has talked to the team. Management has talked to the players.
The coaches have talked to the players because I think
the players are kind of getting fed up. They've said
they are going to make moves prior to the trade
deadline to bring in to help shore up this team
because the Eastern Conference right now is up for grabs.
Playoff spots are up for grabs. This team wants to
be in the playoffs, and with the right moves they can.
They do have some talent that they can move. They
do have some players in the minor league system they
have moved. They can move. They do have some draft
picks they can move. How much, how vest did they
want to get and making those moves remains to be seen.
But as a player, you want to know that your
team cares. And that's why the Sabers weren't winning because
the team did not care. They bring in new management
and all of a sudden, the team has won six
in a row. I'm not saying I'm not saying Columbus
is going to win six games in a row, but
I think this is a good spot for Columbus to
get a win against an Ellie Kings team that struggles
at home, has been struggling at home. The Kings are
much better on the road than they are at home.
I don't think we can I don't think you can
dispute that at the moment. So with that said, guys,
I am taking. You can let me know in chat
if you think I'm absolutely nuts on this one. I
am taking Columbus. And then I'll talk about this game
again in the pod segment of this show that is
coming up. But if you look at it, and I'm
just gonna bring up a quick number as far as
the La Kings go, the LI Kings at home, are
second last in the Western Conference. Four wins, ten losses,
a minus seven goal differential for this La Kings team.
That doesn't warm my heart. Also the fact that they're
coming back. This is our first game back from a
three game East Coast trip that finished down in Florida
where they lost to the Panthers but then did beat
Tampa Bay two to one. First game back after some travel,
I think this is a good time to try and
fade the Kings and cash a big money ticket with
Columbus Andrew.
Speaker 1: You know, Karen, when it comes down to it, I
think this team has overachieved or underachieved all season long
at this point. Then you know, you talk about trades, KRM.
I think this team is probably gonna end up making
some trades come postseason or post after the new year,
is what I'm trying to say, not the postseason. But yeah,
like this number here opening up nearly minus two hundred,
current one sixty five, one seventy depending on where you
shop around, it seems like kind of a weird number
for me. So again, this is one of those things,
Car if you're going dog hunting today, this is one
of those ones here where if the Kings lose today,
I back them tomorrow. If they win today, I fade
them tomorrow. That's kind of how I feel. This is
one of those kind of sit back and watch games
for me because based on whatever I see from them today,
I want to look. I think that this King's team
is going to go one and one in their two
games over the next two days, so you have you
have a chance, or you could do the opposite way
and take the dog tonight and they take the dog
tomorrow as well. I think that at the very worst
carm they go one in one in this stretch. But
as a Habs fan, a big trade that they they
we saw over the weekend, Phil Denote coming to the
Montreal Canadians after he played with back to the Love It,
Love It And of course, because the injuries just won't
stop with the Canadians, Jake Evans got a knee on
knee injury. He's probably gonna be out for the year.
So you gain a center and you lose a center,
which is horrible. Uh, don't get me started on that,
because I could go on with that all day. They're
gonna make a trade in the in the postseason, or
why do I keep saying that in the new year,
they're gonna make a trade in the new year. But
I don't think right now their team is good enough
to warrant this price, so I could definitely be with
you on that.
Speaker 2: As far as that.
Speaker 1: Number is concerned, my question is, carm why the hell
are we seeing a five and a half here as
the number at some books.
Speaker 2: That's what I don't really get.
Speaker 1: The goaltending has been pretty good, the defense has been
pretty good, but overall a little bit confused by the
five and a half, Like it almost makes you want
to bet the under here. Is Columbus gonna get some
good goaltending as well? Are they going to maybe try
and play a defensive brand of hockey tonight? Why are
we seeing a five and a half and not even
a study six here?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what. The goaltending advantage clearly goes to
I think Columbus in this one. You've got Jet Greaves
who's projected to start in tonight's game, but what's his name,
Darcy Comfort is injured, So it's going to be Anton
Forsburg at least for the next week or so tonight,
and we'll see who starts tomorrow. So the goaltending advantage.
For me, I'm not a big Anton Forstburg fan. I've
talked about it, and it maybe it has to do
with losing a few bets. You did have a good
win last time out, but you look at his previous
games and he's allowed, uh, they've been losses, allowing three
or or more goals. I'm not a big fan of his.
The Kings I think have to play better defense in
front of them, and I think that's why you're seeing
the total where it is. You sort of protect your
goalie by playing more defense and you sacrifice offense. So
this is one of those ones where I honestly believe
Columbus gets to three, they win the game. Uh the
three to one three two. So we shall see Andrew.
But the goaltending advantage. Jack Greeves has been good on
the season as a whole. Uh. He's going to have
his ups and downs, of course, but give give you know,
give this team credit. I think Columbus. I'm going to
keep an eye on Columbus over the next uh, you know,
not just tonight, of course, but over the last four
or five games. Uh that you finish off sort of
the year with and and begin the new year with
and see uh if this team has a different jump
in uh in their step, and whether they are going
to make the moves, if they bring in some reinforcements.
I'm telling of those. You can look at it right now.
The Sabers have won six games in a row and
they're still not near a playoff spot. The playoffs are
up for grabs in the Eastern Conference with only a
few teams right now, two or three teams sort of
stamping their way right now, and even the Detroit Red Wings.
Let's go Red Wings there right there, Andrew as well too.
Speaker 1: I keep waiting for this Red Wings team to regress,
and they just haven't. So I don't know what's going
on with that team. I don't know how many moves
they're going to make.
Speaker 3: It so because it's because Johnny Detroit gave up his
season tickets. It is the minute he left. The minute
he left, the Detroit Red Wings started to win. We're
gonna have to have a talk with if the Wings
make If the Wings make the playoffs, we're gonna put
up a poster keep this man out of the building. Yeah, no,
I'm not saying it's all about a mush Johnny, I
say it with all love in case you're watching this
show from the Detroit offense. But I get if you're
a season ticket holder, do you want to continue to
spend money if the team's not making the playoffs? I wouldn't, right,
So they're having a good season, they cut their goaltending
issues sorted out. Andrew, do you have the same game
party for us?
Speaker 1: Let's do it here, Karen, let's rock and roll. We've
got pretty good number here plus six twenty five with
this one here, Zigris to get one point, Mitchkov to
get one point, and Meetchkov two plus shots on goal
minus one and a half on the puck line for
the Philadelphia Flyers takes us two plus six twenty five.
I also do think Travis Connectney could be a good
guy to look towards as well, But I just like
the value tonight with Meetchkov. Think he's gonna do very
well on that second line. Christian de Vorak out tonight
does worry me a little bit here. He's such a
great defensive forward for this team, so that could be
a little bit of a problem. But new linemate potentially
ever Zigris, you know, with some guys up there on
the top, so you could be looking at at a
guy like Connectne or even a Mitchkov sliding up there.
But I do think these guys could connect on the
power play, or these guys just overall will be carrying
their two lines offensively. So if I expect goals from them,
I expect these two young players to do very very
well Meetchkov and Zigris and then of course two shots
on goal for Meachgov minus one and a half goals
for the Flyers against the red hot Vancouver Canucks.
Speaker 2: Who would have thought?
Speaker 1: Right now, Karam the Canucks and the Sabers are red
hot at this point.
Speaker 2: Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: ICEX said he's expected back tonight, so that's worth looking
at there. Okay, so maybe I'll maybe I'll add him
in there, and maybe he could be worth a look.
He's been really solid ice SX for that team, really
solid for them.
Speaker 3: Ye. Who would have expected? So it's your question of
I would I didn't expect it. I thought the Sabers
were going to do with the Sabers normally do stink
at the beginning of the year, start to win a
bunch of games, uh, take themselves out of a good
draft position and then uh and then missed the playoffs.
It's like Rinson repeat for the last twelve years with
this team, and I just don't get it. But somehow
it's a light has been turned on, and maybe the
the Pagoulas Uh, the owners of this Sabers team. I've
seen a little bit of declining attendance, which is now
happening also here in Toronto, but they don't care. It's
a corporate town. They'll they'll sell their seats. But in
Buffalo you need the fan base there, so they brought
in the right guys. We'll see what happens with them.
Clear the dry rot am. I surprised that they've won
the six in a row, Andrew, you know, sort of
moving forward, like you know when we talk about it,
what are the who do the Sabers play, Andrew, It's
just off the top of my head. I'm just I'm
trying to find it. They play the red hot Autawa
Senators next in Ottawa, which probably isn't a good thing
for them, because I took Autawa last night and they
did exactly what I thought they were gonna do. Andrew,
they steamrolled in a win. Then the Sabers come home
and play the Bruins. They have the Saint Louis Blues,
the Dallas Stars, Columbus Vancouver, New York Rangers, Anaheim, some
winnable games for this team to make a push for
the playoffs. We shall see. It would just warm the
cockles of my heart if at the end of the
season the Buffalo Sabers missed the playoffs but also finish
ahead of the Toronto Maple Leafs, because that'll shut my
friends up all summer long. What do you think, Andrew.
Speaker 2: Carl I think we could do a whole show their struggle.
It has been so awesome to see.
Speaker 1: I saw one Habs fan that was like, honestly, I
don't even take pleasure in this. I'm just like, dude,
I take so much pleasure in this because I remember
the amount of times people said, well, we're bad every
year in October, we're gonna turn it around. Every year,
this team is bad in October. Okay, well November has
gone and Neelander has not scored a goal since what
November twenty sixth, November twenty eighth, Well it's December twenty second.
This team is not good and guess what, maybe Mitch
Murder wasn't good in the playoffs, Carm, but they might
not make the playoffs now for him to have been
bad anyway, I bet you he's in Vegas living it up,
doing very good and feeling pretty good about himself. So
but you know, honestly, though, Karm, as much as we
can say they're not doing well, every other team got better.
Like you said, the Red hot Autawa Senators, I feel
like they're one of the teams to bet on right now. Yesterday,
if I would have remembered it wasn't going to be
swimming in that, I wish I took them against the Bees.
Like there are some good opportunities to bet on this
Autawa Senators team. The Red Wings are playing and better.
My habs are playing pretty good. You got the lighting
and don't forget about the Panthers, the back to back
Cup champions. So and Karm, Yes, you got a little
bit of an evil side to you.
Speaker 3: Yes, of course. And with that said, it is time
for the pod play. Thank you, Lorenzo. I really appreciate that.
Speaker 2: I do.
Speaker 3: Uh, sometimes you need a little a little that evil
in you. My pod play, guys, I'm going to the
last game of discussed the Columbus of Blue Jackets plus
one fifty goalting advantage to Columbus. I think the team
meeting helps this team, the players knowing that they're they're
they're not being forgotten by management, that they're going to
make a push for the UH for some players to
get them into the playoffs. And the La Kings were
turning home off a three game East coast trip where
they came from Florida. That is a long flight home
as well to cross country UH plus one fifty here.
I'm not an Anton Forrestburg fan. And the interesting thing
is I played this game already and the money is
now coming in on Columbus. They are down to one
thirty five at some books is our consensus number on
the wager Talk live lines in on odds Logic, one
thirty four at FanDuel and circa. So with that said, guys,
Columbus is getting some love. Maybe they knew it was
going to be the pod play. Let's hit this pod
play plus one fifty boys.
Speaker 2: All right, Carl, let's do it.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we can cash that same game parlay as well,
and if not, guys, hopefully we can catch some of
the the props inside that as well, so all right, Carl,
let's do it. Let's have a great day, and we
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Tomorrow gonna be a big, big show, a ton of games.
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