Speaker 1: You really need something like that that's going to help
Speaker 1: stimulate the economy, at least in some of these individual's
Speaker 1: point of view. And when I think about all the
Speaker 1: people who have or who play a role more or
Speaker 1: less when there is a conflict going on, not just
Speaker 1: in military applications, but in medical in a myriad of things.
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Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial
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Speaker 3: is Christian White. You find him at Christianevan White dot com.
Speaker 3: He was kind enough to have me on his show
Speaker 3: several weeks ago, and I realized we were kindred souls
Speaker 3: or attitudes or views towards towards what's happening in the world.
Speaker 3: And I would call it, Christian the curated lie and
Speaker 3: the way tech has fit into that. All these things
Speaker 3: and then cycles Martin Armstrong, all these things. Christian, it's
Speaker 3: great to have you on the show. So what do
Speaker 3: you think the top lie is that we're being fed
Speaker 3: by the mainstream media, by the powers that be.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know if I want to be canceled.
Speaker 1: Oh gosh. Well, the one thing I have been hearing
Speaker 1: is about October seventh, about it whatever, I might get
Speaker 1: some slack, but it'd be more or less kind of
Speaker 1: inside job or that, or that the power some of
Speaker 1: the powers that be kind of allowed perhaps some of
Speaker 1: that to happen. And so that that was one one
Speaker 1: topic that's been kind of in our set. I've been
Speaker 1: kind of going down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know about inside job, but perhaps
Speaker 3: it was like a Pearl Harbor type thing where maybe
Speaker 3: they knew something was coming. I don't think if they
Speaker 3: knew how bad it was, they would have allowed it.
Speaker 3: But this was not something that just came out of
Speaker 3: thin air. So what about lies in our everyday life?
Speaker 3: Here lies that we are told, and we are told
Speaker 3: repeatedly that their truth.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean a part of gosh, there's a myriad
Speaker 1: of things that I think you're I think the first
Speaker 1: one is I mean, certainly, COVID. I think for sure
Speaker 1: that you have a lot of the reasons as to
Speaker 1: why we've gone into these other countries that we've done
Speaker 1: regime chain, think, regime change and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: I think, I think there's a lot of a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that's been misconstrued. I'm trying to think of
Speaker 1: everyday things. I mean, I just feel like as i'm
Speaker 1: more as I go down this rabbit hole, more and more, Carrie,
Speaker 1: I am less and less trusting of legacy media on
Speaker 1: both sides of the aisle. I just think a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff is just highly sanitized. And I you know,
Speaker 1: I find myself listening to alternative media more and more,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I'm not saying I'm right on
Speaker 1: these things, just like the first controversial comment I made
Speaker 1: there earlier. But I don't know, I don't know how
Speaker 1: about you.
Speaker 3: Well, today's conspiracy theorist is tomorrow's truth teller. And to me,
Speaker 3: like the biggest lie about the economy is everything's fine.
Speaker 3: The economy is growing, everybody's getting better, the standard of
Speaker 3: living is going up, and the global economy no problem.
Speaker 3: Everything is fine. And I just find that to be
Speaker 3: kind of absurd mm hmm.
Speaker 1: You got to love those CPI numbers and in jobs
Speaker 1: reports that they that they release. Yeah, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: just fascinating how they gauge the basket of goods for
Speaker 1: for CPI and how that's misconstrued I think in a
Speaker 1: lot of ways.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like I say, it's the curated lie,
Speaker 3: and uh, you know, but people want to be lied too,
Speaker 3: don't you think many of you out there want to
Speaker 3: maintain the illusion because if you really admitted what was happening, well,
Speaker 3: that would change your world view. It would be a
Speaker 3: paradigm shift, wouldn't it. Oh?
Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think if again, you know, from the various
Speaker 1: guests I've had on and I know you've had a
Speaker 1: lot of you know, outstanding guests, the more I the
Speaker 1: more one goes down the rabbit hole and and and
Speaker 1: you know, tries to uh, you know, better understand than
Speaker 1: each of this world. I think there's a lot of things,
Speaker 1: you know, particularly like the Epsteine things and things of
Speaker 1: that nature, that if if people were truly aware of
Speaker 1: what has happened, what's gone on, it probably make their
Speaker 1: their skin crawl. I mean, uh, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of there's a lot of stuff I think that goes on.
Speaker 1: That's just there's a myriad of things. Again, whichever direction
Speaker 1: you want, you want to take that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the Epstein thing, everybody just seems to want
Speaker 3: to brush it, you know, rug sweep it. And you know,
Speaker 3: the only person in jail is supposedly willing to tell all,
Speaker 3: but nobody wants to listen to her, right m And clearly,
Speaker 3: clearly that was an intelligence set up. There's not a
Speaker 3: question we go back to Hugh Hefner, all right, he's
Speaker 3: the original honeypot. There's not there's almost no question he
Speaker 3: was an intelligence operative, right, Oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to me as
Speaker 1: I'm learning about how some of the powers that be,
Speaker 1: I don't want to say all of it in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: even how blackmail is used sexual in nature or in
Speaker 1: other capacities, and how that's how that's leveraged.
Speaker 3: You know it, you know it. Nobody's perfect, and the
Speaker 3: deep State has the ability to use all of your
Speaker 3: mistakes against you nowadays with social media, with Google computers,
Speaker 3: right you're looking at they have everything you've ever written, said,
Speaker 3: every phone call you've ever made, has been recorded. Every
Speaker 3: piece of mail Christian that you have gotten since nine
Speaker 3: to eleven has been scanned, at least the outside envelope
Speaker 3: has been and it's been archived.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprising. And to add
Speaker 1: to that, I mean, you mentioned on the show last
Speaker 1: time when I had you on about DARPA, and that
Speaker 1: was something I was not aware of. And to tie
Speaker 1: it in with the kind of the surveillance kind of
Speaker 1: a nature of things post nine to eleven.
Speaker 3: And I wasn't making that up, was I.
Speaker 1: That's uh, that's pretty fascinating. And I'm I'm been hearing
Speaker 1: more about I'm actually having on a gentleman James rug Ski.
Speaker 1: I might be gosh watching his last things having him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be unpacking the w h O and some
Speaker 1: of these NGOs and other means by which people are
Speaker 1: able to, you know, effectuate their agendas.
Speaker 3: Totally totally true. Hey, and uh, but you know I
Speaker 3: have a T shirt I should have worn it for
Speaker 3: this show. It says I'm an I identify as a
Speaker 3: conspiracy theorist. My pronouns are told you, So there you go.
Speaker 3: It's just funny because everything they've told you that isn't true.
Speaker 3: Guess what happens? It turns out to be true.
Speaker 1: Right m hm, you know, and I wanted to mention,
Speaker 1: Oh sorry, go ahead, how does that happen? Yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: Well again some of the stuff that I you know,
Speaker 1: I'm like I said that first statement I made, which
Speaker 1: is rather bold. You know, I think about our mutual
Speaker 1: friend Amarin Armstrong, how he's you know, referenced to the
Speaker 1: Lusitania Gulf of Tonkin incident. You know, there's talk of
Speaker 1: Pearl Harbor. I know this stuff sounds like just you know, fantasy.
Speaker 1: But again, you know, not everyone's like you and me,
Speaker 1: and not everyone shares the same values. And there's there
Speaker 1: are certain individuals out there that are, you know, held
Speaker 1: bent on fomenting whether it's a war or civil strife
Speaker 1: or taking advantage advantage of the system in many ways.
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, I feel yeah, I'm unplugging more and more.
Speaker 3: You know, there was a comedy act and I got
Speaker 3: a few years on you back in the seventies called
Speaker 3: Fire Signed Theater, and they had a skit which basically
Speaker 3: said everything you know is wrong. And the longer that
Speaker 3: I the more I come to the conclusion that they
Speaker 3: were right. Everything you think you know is wrong. You know,
Speaker 3: whether it's nine to eleven Pearl Harbor, World War One,
Speaker 3: why wars happen? Who makes money? Right? Who doesn't? All
Speaker 3: these things? Everything you think you know, you really need
Speaker 3: to question. So here's a question for you. How do
Speaker 3: you how do you figure out what's the truth and
Speaker 3: what's the lie?
Speaker 1: Well, I think for starters, I look at it as
Speaker 1: what is being put out there from legacy media channels.
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying everything they put out there is
Speaker 1: full on liar or bogus, but it's not also want
Speaker 1: to preface.
Speaker 3: Well, are you sure about that?
Speaker 1: Well, I look, I mean obviously there's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff they put out there that is as manipulated as
Speaker 1: and if it's a narrative. But you asked me, how
Speaker 1: do I go about deciphering that. I listen to different
Speaker 1: viewpoints and I kind of do deductive reasoning and draw
Speaker 1: my own conclusions based off whether you know, whether it's
Speaker 1: a history or just kind of common sense, just certain
Speaker 1: certain channels. Right, they have a certain narrative they're trying
Speaker 1: to pettle. So uh, and I'm not saying that I
Speaker 1: know I know the inside scoop because I'm I'm I'm
Speaker 1: learning it's I don't think that no one truly knows
Speaker 1: the nature of things. But that said, I you know,
Speaker 1: I have some opinions on those.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well so so the narrative. We got this thing
Speaker 3: called narrative control. And it doesn't matter what the truth is,
Speaker 3: It's all about the narrative. So my question for you is,
Speaker 3: how do you how do you break the narrative? What's
Speaker 3: your your strategy on it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we live in a golden age
Speaker 1: right now, Carrie, whereby you know, media is is that
Speaker 1: a place where it's never been? I mean, you know historically,
Speaker 1: you know, you go back, you know, twenty plus years.
Speaker 1: If you or I wanted to have a voice and
Speaker 1: put ourselves out there, we'd have to go through those
Speaker 1: gatekeepers and we'd have to you know, have the resources
Speaker 1: and the technology in order to disseminate information. Now it's
Speaker 1: become so democratized that anybody can can dissemine it and
Speaker 1: can put out information, you know, And so I think
Speaker 1: part of that is sharing what you're observing, what you know.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be you know, one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: you know, per se where we know, the vertic is,
Speaker 1: but at least having that dialogue, having that conversation. I
Speaker 1: think we're starting to see that more, just like with
Speaker 1: the past election that we had, how you know, people
Speaker 1: like Rogan and other podcasters, how I mean, look at
Speaker 1: how Trump was able to galvanize that that voter base
Speaker 1: in things of that nature, or even the New York
Speaker 1: and mayoral candidate, how he's been able to tap into
Speaker 1: media in ways previously inaccessible.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So true, but that's a plus and that's a minus, right.
Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Well, well we saw, of course what
Speaker 1: they did during in the past handful of years. I
Speaker 1: know Mark Zuckerber's has spoken about that on shows how
Speaker 1: and even with Jack Dorsey with with with Twitter at
Speaker 1: the time, how they felt pressured they needed to do this,
Speaker 1: they needed to do that. So I think people are
Speaker 1: coming more aware of how algorithms and how things are
Speaker 1: able to you know, create these echo chambers and and
Speaker 1: and pedus against each other more and more.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good at it, right, They're good, absolutely, yes. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So so you know they tell us all these things
Speaker 3: like the dollar is going to last forever, right, and
Speaker 3: you know it's just it's lies. And not only that,
Speaker 3: but it's it really hurts people because nobody's ready for it,
Speaker 3: you know, it forces them not to prepare for the evitable, right, Oh, absolutely.
Speaker 1: You know, I think of all the all the guests
Speaker 1: that I've had on I think of, you know, the
Speaker 1: common denominator they mentioned about is the you know, the
Speaker 1: money printing, the Fiat, you know, debasement going on, and
Speaker 1: I think of you know, Voltaire he mentioned back. I
Speaker 1: think this from in the seventeen twenties with that Mississippi
Speaker 1: company whereby yeah, a Scotsman came over to France and
Speaker 1: pushed for you know, basically a Fiat type system and
Speaker 1: there's a big rush into that and that kaboom and
Speaker 1: he fled, He fled the country caused a lot of issues.
Speaker 1: So I don't think. I don't think the only thing
Speaker 1: that's constant is change, I think in this world.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and even that you have to think about
Speaker 3: sometimes because what you think change is oftentimes isn't really change,
Speaker 3: is it.
Speaker 1: Where are you seeing the putt going as a relate
Speaker 1: to that, and obviously the the uh, you know, we
Speaker 1: got the rise of the bricks Nations and there's talking
Speaker 1: about Breton Budge two point zero things of that nature.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they're not going to be able
Speaker 3: to accomplish anything until there's a major financial collapse. That's
Speaker 3: my honest opinion, because because they're kind of just prepping,
Speaker 3: I see them as national preppers, and you know, at
Speaker 3: some point, no doubt they'll be right. But you know,
Speaker 3: it's just I just don't see it. It's a well,
Speaker 3: it'll happen little by little, as our friend Andy Sheckman says,
Speaker 3: until it happens really fast. And that's the scary part,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh so well it's like the heming. We
Speaker 1: all it's gradual, then all that sudden.
Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a sudden, you know, then it happens,
Speaker 3: and you know, uh, they'll keep doing it till till
Speaker 3: it doesn't work anymore.
Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, And again the common theme that I've you know,
Speaker 1: that that I've observed with many of the guests said
Speaker 1: that had been on is hey, you I well, they're
Speaker 1: not going to default. They're not going to allow that
Speaker 1: to happen. So they need to find a way to
Speaker 1: figure out this, uh, this this conundrum that they're in.
Speaker 1: So I think you've got to have the boogeyman. You
Speaker 1: got to have a pretext, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: do you think you are?
Speaker 3: Huh? I saadly, I think that's the case.
Speaker 1: I think Martin's on the money on that.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm. Well, I think they're gonna the strategic Bitcoin
Speaker 3: Reserve is what it's all about, try to inflate the
Speaker 3: price of bitcoin and use that to to basically pay
Speaker 3: off the deficit. That's my theory, but I'm willing to
Speaker 3: say I could be wrong, but it just seems very
Speaker 3: convenient that we have a president who's gone all in
Speaker 3: on crypto. When I was at the Bitcoin twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five conference, I was told there that over half the
Speaker 3: contributions coming into the Republican Party are from crypto related entities.
Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I think Lutnik is pretty big on.
Speaker 3: That, all of them. Trump too, look at the Milania
Speaker 3: coin and the Trump coin and all that good stuff, right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 3: yeah yeah. I was just going to say, and then
Speaker 3: I look at the riots in La immigration riots, and again,
Speaker 3: those are manufactured. Those aren't organic, they're not real. They're
Speaker 3: created by a party trying to push its own agenda.
Speaker 3: Not that the other side isn't. I'm not going to
Speaker 3: judge on who's right or who's wrong. I have my feelings,
Speaker 3: but I see it as just more of the same here.
Speaker 1: Well, I had a notable irishman named John waters on
Speaker 1: recently and I couldn't believe how well received that that
Speaker 1: conversation was. What he had to say. He talked about
Speaker 1: how Ireland is being the Irish so to speak in
Speaker 1: his words, and how you've got a lot of the
Speaker 1: power some say, behind the Bank of England, behind the
Speaker 1: BIS going over there, as Ireland's been more or less
Speaker 1: kind of pillaged for the past, you know, several hundred years,
Speaker 1: and now that's been kind of a testing ground to
Speaker 1: see what they're able to do. And you know, you
Speaker 1: hear a lot of talk about civil strife headed down
Speaker 1: the pipeline, especially over in the UK.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all over the world. And that's another thing
Speaker 3: Armstrong mentioned is that you know, the civil unrest cycle,
Speaker 3: the war cycle, all these cycles coming to fruition here.
Speaker 3: And you know, he says the dollar will remain pre
Speaker 3: eminent until twenty thirty two, makes you wonder. But then
Speaker 3: on the other hand, he said the dow is going
Speaker 3: to hit forty thousand between twenty two and twenty four,
Speaker 3: and he was spot on and so many of his
Speaker 3: other calls. So you got to wonder, but what concerns
Speaker 3: you right now personally the most Christian.
Speaker 1: Gosh, probably some type of kinetic false flag event. Really
Speaker 1: can't candidly, Yeah, I would say something like that. I
Speaker 1: think you really need something like that that's going to
Speaker 1: help stimulate the economy, at least in some of these
Speaker 1: individual's point of view. And when I think about all
Speaker 1: the people who have or who play a role more
Speaker 1: or less when there is a conflict going on, not
Speaker 1: just in military applications, but in medical in a myriad
Speaker 1: of things. Alex Skreener, who I follow some of his work,
Speaker 1: you know, he's got some remarkable insights on how these
Speaker 1: private central banks, coupled with uh uh, these these corporations
Speaker 1: are able to go in you know, they use the
Speaker 1: regime change or some pretext to go in there extract
Speaker 1: resources banks can put on their balance sheet, they can
Speaker 1: then lend further. You've got all these angos in the
Speaker 1: picture of the mix, so I could see something that
Speaker 1: false flag. It could be another help pandemic, or it
Speaker 1: could be some type of you know, kinetic thing.
Speaker 3: Who knows, Yeah, well, I'm with you. I see I
Speaker 3: see things happening here that at one time in my
Speaker 3: life would have shocked me. Uh, there's one piece of
Speaker 3: advice that you can give to everybody out there listening
Speaker 3: to and watching us. Now, what would you tell them?
Speaker 1: I would say, Uh, be as selfish, excuse me, self
Speaker 1: sufficient as you can. Obviously, not everyone has the means
Speaker 1: or the ability to, you know, buy another piece of
Speaker 1: property that's maybe adjacent outside the city and such. But
Speaker 1: I think that if you can have some of your
Speaker 1: reserves and and I'm not going to pretend that I'm
Speaker 1: mister perfect when it comes to this by any means,
Speaker 1: but I would say making sure you have you know,
Speaker 1: those reserves. By that, I mean like, you know, basic
Speaker 1: supplies and such. Maybe a backup generator, Yeah, who knows.
Speaker 1: I mean, look what happened in Spain, not not too
Speaker 1: long ago, but those with the power I was there.
Speaker 3: It's so funny you mentioned it. I was there that
Speaker 3: day and that was all a result. Now they're saying
Speaker 3: of trying to balance the green energy the power grid
Speaker 3: with the it's really difficult to do that without massive
Speaker 3: amounts of battery storage, which no place in the world
Speaker 3: has yet, but it will come online. And honestly, it
Speaker 3: wasn't like that bad. It couldn't take the subway, managed
Speaker 3: to get dinner. I was fortunate that my hotel had
Speaker 3: a backup generator and never lost internet. But it really
Speaker 3: was like not a bad experience. But if it had
Speaker 3: lasted for a couple more days, there would have been pandemonium.
Speaker 3: Because Spain is the least press country in the world.
Speaker 3: Christian they're credit card readers stopped reading all right. Everything
Speaker 3: became a cash economy instantaneously. So in a way, what
Speaker 3: you're saying is like a preview of potential things to come, right.
Speaker 3: What happens when the ATM doesn't work, What happens when
Speaker 3: the credit card swiper doesn't swipe?
Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, And I'm not going to go off in
Speaker 1: a tangent and speculate that we're going to see some
Speaker 1: post apocalyptic you know thing per se, but yeah, I think,
Speaker 1: you know, things operate in cycles, and yeah, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: be surprised. We're so dependent and we're so fortunate in
Speaker 1: the West to have access to the resources that we have,
Speaker 1: and you know, another facet to that, I think, despite
Speaker 1: I know a lot of doom and gloom. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a lot of guests on in Sex where
Speaker 1: they talk about, well, this isn't going that's it. I
Speaker 1: still think we live in the best time to date
Speaker 1: in human history. I mean the amount of people that
Speaker 1: have been taken out of poverty over the past several
Speaker 1: day decades. You know, people have basic needs. Sure, you
Speaker 1: know things could be improved upon, but access to resources,
Speaker 1: you know, endless entertainment, I mean, you name it. I
Speaker 1: mean we have a pretty good compared to you know,
Speaker 1: going back plus even, yeah, going back you know, seventy
Speaker 1: plus eighty plus years ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree with you more. I think
Speaker 3: it's a pretty amazing time to be alive. As my
Speaker 3: friend Jason Hartman would say. And hey, Christian, best place
Speaker 3: to find your work, best place to connect with you
Speaker 3: on the web?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Christianevanwhite dot com. And you can reach me at
Speaker 1: Christian at Christianevanwhite dot com as well. And yeah, I've
Speaker 1: got a YouTube channel called the disc let's under my
Speaker 1: name Christian E.
Speaker 3: White.
Speaker 1: But my show is called Discourse with Christian And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's how you can.
Speaker 3: Reach me, all right, and the link will be in
Speaker 3: the show. That's this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com.
Speaker 3: Really appreciate you coming on, Christian. We will talk to
Speaker 3: you again soon. Awesome.
Speaker 1: Hey Kerrie, much appreciated.
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