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Speaker 1: You really need something like that that's going to help

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stimulate the economy, at least in some of these individual's

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point of view. And when I think about all the

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people who have or who play a role more or

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less when there is a conflict going on, not just

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in military applications, but in medical in a myriad of things.

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Speaker 3: And welcome you are listening to and watching the Financial

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Survival Network. I'm your host, Carrie Lutz. With us today

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is Christian White. You find him at Christianevan White dot com.

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He was kind enough to have me on his show

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several weeks ago, and I realized we were kindred souls

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or attitudes or views towards towards what's happening in the world.

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And I would call it, Christian the curated lie and

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the way tech has fit into that. All these things

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and then cycles Martin Armstrong, all these things. Christian, it's

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great to have you on the show. So what do

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you think the top lie is that we're being fed

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by the mainstream media, by the powers that be.

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Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know if I want to be canceled.

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Oh gosh. Well, the one thing I have been hearing

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is about October seventh, about it whatever, I might get

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some slack, but it'd be more or less kind of

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inside job or that, or that the power some of

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the powers that be kind of allowed perhaps some of

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that to happen. And so that that was one one

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topic that's been kind of in our set. I've been

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kind of going down that rabbit hole.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know about inside job, but perhaps

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it was like a Pearl Harbor type thing where maybe

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they knew something was coming. I don't think if they

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knew how bad it was, they would have allowed it.

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But this was not something that just came out of

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thin air. So what about lies in our everyday life?

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Here lies that we are told, and we are told

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repeatedly that their truth.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean a part of gosh, there's a myriad

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of things that I think you're I think the first

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that you have a lot of the reasons as to

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why we've gone into these other countries that we've done

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regime chain, think, regime change and things of that nature.

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I think, I think there's a lot of a lot

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of stuff that's been misconstrued. I'm trying to think of

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everyday things. I mean, I just feel like as i'm

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more as I go down this rabbit hole, more and more, Carrie,

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I am less and less trusting of legacy media on

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both sides of the aisle. I just think a lot

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of stuff is just highly sanitized. And I you know,

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I find myself listening to alternative media more and more,

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and I'm you know, I'm not saying I'm right on

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these things, just like the first controversial comment I made

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there earlier. But I don't know, I don't know how

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about you.

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Speaker 3: Well, today's conspiracy theorist is tomorrow's truth teller. And to me,

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like the biggest lie about the economy is everything's fine.

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The economy is growing, everybody's getting better, the standard of

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living is going up, and the global economy no problem.

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Everything is fine. And I just find that to be

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kind of absurd mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: You got to love those CPI numbers and in jobs

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reports that they that they release. Yeah, it's it's it's

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just fascinating how they gauge the basket of goods for

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for CPI and how that's misconstrued I think in a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's like I say, it's the curated lie,

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and uh, you know, but people want to be lied too,

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don't you think many of you out there want to

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maintain the illusion because if you really admitted what was happening, well,

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that would change your world view. It would be a

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paradigm shift, wouldn't it. Oh?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, I think if again, you know, from the various

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guests I've had on and I know you've had a

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lot of you know, outstanding guests, the more I the

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more one goes down the rabbit hole and and and

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you know, tries to uh, you know, better understand than

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each of this world. I think there's a lot of things,

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that nature, that if if people were truly aware of

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what has happened, what's gone on, it probably make their

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well the Epstein thing, everybody just seems to want

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to brush it, you know, rug sweep it. And you know,

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the only person in jail is supposedly willing to tell all,

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but nobody wants to listen to her, right m And clearly,

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clearly that was an intelligence set up. There's not a

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the original honeypot. There's not there's almost no question he

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprised to me as

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I'm learning about how some of the powers that be,

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even how blackmail is used sexual in nature or in

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other capacities, and how that's how that's leveraged.

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Speaker 3: You know it, you know it. Nobody's perfect, and the

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deep State has the ability to use all of your

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mistakes against you nowadays with social media, with Google computers,

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right you're looking at they have everything you've ever written, said,

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every phone call you've ever made, has been recorded. Every

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piece of mail Christian that you have gotten since nine

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to eleven has been scanned, at least the outside envelope

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, I wouldn't be surprising. And to add

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was something I was not aware of. And to tie

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it in with the kind of the surveillance kind of

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a nature of things post nine to eleven.

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Speaker 3: And I wasn't making that up, was I.

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Speaker 1: That's uh, that's pretty fascinating. And I'm I'm been hearing

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more about I'm actually having on a gentleman James rug Ski.

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I might be gosh watching his last things having him. Yeah,

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he's gonna be unpacking the w h O and some

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of these NGOs and other means by which people are

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able to, you know, effectuate their agendas.

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Speaker 3: Totally totally true. Hey, and uh, but you know I

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have a T shirt I should have worn it for

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this show. It says I'm an I identify as a

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conspiracy theorist. My pronouns are told you, So there you go.

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It's just funny because everything they've told you that isn't true.

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Guess what happens? It turns out to be true.

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Speaker 1: Right m hm, you know, and I wanted to mention,

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is rather bold. You know, I think about our mutual

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friend Amarin Armstrong, how he's you know, referenced to the

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Lusitania Gulf of Tonkin incident. You know, there's talk of

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Pearl Harbor. I know this stuff sounds like just you know, fantasy.

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and not everyone shares the same values. And there's there

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bent on fomenting whether it's a war or civil strife

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Speaker 3: You know, there was a comedy act and I got

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a few years on you back in the seventies called

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Fire Signed Theater, and they had a skit which basically

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said everything you know is wrong. And the longer that

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I the more I come to the conclusion that they

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were right. Everything you think you know is wrong. You know,

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whether it's nine to eleven Pearl Harbor, World War One,

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why wars happen? Who makes money? Right? Who doesn't? All

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these things? Everything you think you know, you really need

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to question. So here's a question for you. How do

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you how do you figure out what's the truth and

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what's the lie?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think for starters, I look at it as

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what is being put out there from legacy media channels.

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full on liar or bogus, but it's not also want

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Speaker 3: Well, are you sure about that?

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Speaker 1: Well, I look, I mean obviously there's a lot of

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stuff they put out there that is as manipulated as

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and if it's a narrative. But you asked me, how

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my own conclusions based off whether you know, whether it's

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a history or just kind of common sense, just certain

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certain channels. Right, they have a certain narrative they're trying

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to pettle. So uh, and I'm not saying that I

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know I know the inside scoop because I'm I'm I'm

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learning it's I don't think that no one truly knows

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the nature of things. But that said, I you know,

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Well so so the narrative. We got this thing

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how do you how do you break the narrative? What's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I think we live in a golden age

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right now, Carrie, whereby you know, media is is that

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a place where it's never been? I mean, you know historically,

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gatekeepers and we'd have to you know, have the resources

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you know, per se where we know, the vertic is,

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but at least having that dialogue, having that conversation. I

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the past election that we had, how you know, people

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like Rogan and other podcasters, how I mean, look at

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how Trump was able to galvanize that that voter base

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in things of that nature, or even the New York

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So true, but that's a plus and that's a minus, right.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, absolutely. Well, well we saw, of course what

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the time, how they felt pressured they needed to do this,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they're good at it, right, They're good, absolutely, yes. Yeah.

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like the dollar is going to last forever, right, and

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you know it's just it's lies. And not only that,

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Speaker 1: You know, I think of all the all the guests

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money printing, the Fiat, you know, debasement going on, and

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company whereby yeah, a Scotsman came over to France and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I think they're not going to be able

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to accomplish anything until there's a major financial collapse. That's

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my honest opinion, because because they're kind of just prepping,

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I see them as national preppers, and you know, at

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some point, no doubt they'll be right. But you know,

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it's just I just don't see it. It's a well,

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it'll happen little by little, as our friend Andy Sheckman says,

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until it happens really fast. And that's the scary part,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh so well it's like the heming. We

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all it's gradual, then all that sudden.

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and you know, uh, they'll keep doing it till till

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it doesn't work anymore.

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Speaker 1: Right, absolutely, And again the common theme that I've you know,

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that that I've observed with many of the guests said

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that had been on is hey, you I well, they're

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not going to default. They're not going to allow that

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to happen. So they need to find a way to

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figure out this, uh, this this conundrum that they're in.

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So I think you've got to have the boogeyman. You

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got to have a pretext, and I think that's why

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do you think you are?

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Speaker 3: Huh? I saadly, I think that's the case.

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Speaker 1: I think Martin's on the money on that.

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price of bitcoin and use that to to basically pay

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off the deficit. That's my theory, but I'm willing to

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say I could be wrong, but it just seems very

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convenient that we have a president who's gone all in

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on crypto. When I was at the Bitcoin twenty twenty

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five conference, I was told there that over half the

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contributions coming into the Republican Party are from crypto related entities.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised. I think Lutnik is pretty big on.

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Speaker 3: That, all of them. Trump too, look at the Milania

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coin and the Trump coin and all that good stuff, right, absolutely, absolutely, yeah,

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yeah yeah. I was just going to say, and then

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I look at the riots in La immigration riots, and again,

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those are manufactured. Those aren't organic, they're not real. They're

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created by a party trying to push its own agenda.

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Not that the other side isn't. I'm not going to

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judge on who's right or who's wrong. I have my feelings,

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but I see it as just more of the same here.

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Speaker 1: Well, I had a notable irishman named John waters on

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recently and I couldn't believe how well received that that

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conversation was. What he had to say. He talked about

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how Ireland is being the Irish so to speak in

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his words, and how you've got a lot of the

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power some say, behind the Bank of England, behind the

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BIS going over there, as Ireland's been more or less

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kind of pillaged for the past, you know, several hundred years,

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and now that's been kind of a testing ground to

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see what they're able to do. And you know, you

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hear a lot of talk about civil strife headed down

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the pipeline, especially over in the UK.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all over the world. And that's another thing

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Armstrong mentioned is that you know, the civil unrest cycle,

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the war cycle, all these cycles coming to fruition here.

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And you know, he says the dollar will remain pre

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eminent until twenty thirty two, makes you wonder. But then

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on the other hand, he said the dow is going

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to hit forty thousand between twenty two and twenty four,

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and he was spot on and so many of his

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other calls. So you got to wonder, but what concerns

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you right now personally the most Christian.

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Speaker 1: Gosh, probably some type of kinetic false flag event. Really

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can't candidly, Yeah, I would say something like that. I

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think you really need something like that that's going to

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help stimulate the economy, at least in some of these

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individual's point of view. And when I think about all

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the people who have or who play a role more

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or less when there is a conflict going on, not

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just in military applications, but in medical in a myriad

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of things. Alex Skreener, who I follow some of his work,

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you know, he's got some remarkable insights on how these

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private central banks, coupled with uh uh, these these corporations

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are able to go in you know, they use the

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regime change or some pretext to go in there extract

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resources banks can put on their balance sheet, they can

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then lend further. You've got all these angos in the

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picture of the mix, so I could see something that

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false flag. It could be another help pandemic, or it

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could be some type of you know, kinetic thing.

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Speaker 3: Who knows, Yeah, well, I'm with you. I see I

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see things happening here that at one time in my

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life would have shocked me. Uh, there's one piece of

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advice that you can give to everybody out there listening

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to and watching us. Now, what would you tell them?

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Speaker 1: I would say, Uh, be as selfish, excuse me, self

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sufficient as you can. Obviously, not everyone has the means

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or the ability to, you know, buy another piece of

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property that's maybe adjacent outside the city and such. But

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I think that if you can have some of your

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reserves and and I'm not going to pretend that I'm

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mister perfect when it comes to this by any means,

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but I would say making sure you have you know,

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those reserves. By that, I mean like, you know, basic

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supplies and such. Maybe a backup generator, Yeah, who knows.

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I mean, look what happened in Spain, not not too

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long ago, but those with the power I was there.

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Speaker 3: It's so funny you mentioned it. I was there that

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day and that was all a result. Now they're saying

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of trying to balance the green energy the power grid

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with the it's really difficult to do that without massive

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amounts of battery storage, which no place in the world

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has yet, but it will come online. And honestly, it

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wasn't like that bad. It couldn't take the subway, managed

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to get dinner. I was fortunate that my hotel had

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a backup generator and never lost internet. But it really

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was like not a bad experience. But if it had

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lasted for a couple more days, there would have been pandemonium.

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Because Spain is the least press country in the world.

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Christian they're credit card readers stopped reading all right. Everything

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became a cash economy instantaneously. So in a way, what

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you're saying is like a preview of potential things to come, right.

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What happens when the ATM doesn't work, What happens when

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the credit card swiper doesn't swipe?

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Speaker 1: Well, absolutely, And I'm not going to go off in

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a tangent and speculate that we're going to see some

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post apocalyptic you know thing per se, but yeah, I think,

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you know, things operate in cycles, and yeah, I wouldn't

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be surprised. We're so dependent and we're so fortunate in

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the West to have access to the resources that we have,

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and you know, another facet to that, I think, despite

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I know a lot of doom and gloom. You know,

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I have a lot of guests on in Sex where

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they talk about, well, this isn't going that's it. I

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still think we live in the best time to date

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in human history. I mean the amount of people that

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have been taken out of poverty over the past several

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day decades. You know, people have basic needs. Sure, you

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know things could be improved upon, but access to resources,

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you know, endless entertainment, I mean, you name it. I

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mean we have a pretty good compared to you know,

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going back plus even, yeah, going back you know, seventy

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plus eighty plus years ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could not agree with you more. I think

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it's a pretty amazing time to be alive. As my

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friend Jason Hartman would say. And hey, Christian, best place

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to find your work, best place to connect with you

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on the web?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Christianevanwhite dot com. And you can reach me at

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Christian at Christianevanwhite dot com as well. And yeah, I've

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got a YouTube channel called the disc let's under my

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name Christian E.

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Speaker 3: White.

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Speaker 1: But my show is called Discourse with Christian And yeah,

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that's how you can.

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Speaker 3: Reach me, all right, and the link will be in

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the show. That's this interview on Financial Survival Network dot com.

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Really appreciate you coming on, Christian. We will talk to

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you again soon. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Hey Kerrie, much appreciated.

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