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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Word of conspiracy. Step wild say you're

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<v Speaker 1>a freaks.

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<v Speaker 2>Step right up, ladies and gentlemen, jeretentious do the freak show.

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<v Speaker 3>Freak Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today I have my

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<v Speaker 3>best day firm the West Day, returning the lovely, talented, intelligent,

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<v Speaker 3>and superior Miss Heidi. How are you dolling?

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you for the wonderful comments, because apparently, according to

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<v Speaker 4>my Apple reviews, I'm a stuck up Mormon lady.

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<v Speaker 2>So that doesn't Oh that is a no at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, we can't help it that we know everything here.

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<v Speaker 2>Just no jep kidding.

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<v Speaker 4>Actually, what we do, and I'm happy to be here

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<v Speaker 4>to do it again, is we study a lot, and

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<v Speaker 4>we pick these topics and we go down the rabbit

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<v Speaker 4>hole because it's fun to learn and I think it's

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<v Speaker 4>important for our brains to continue.

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<v Speaker 3>I would agree with the So today we're going to

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<v Speaker 3>be doing a part four of our Sideshow Attractions series,

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<v Speaker 3>and today is Skin in the Game, and so we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to be talking about all things weird and wild

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<v Speaker 3>of the skin that were sideshow circuits attractions. Again, don't

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<v Speaker 3>get your panties and a wide. Ladies and gentlemen, don't

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<v Speaker 3>be a pansy because we're not saying anything bad. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just saying these things happen. Sometimes things are kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a freak of nature, if you will.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 3>Curiosity, people's curiosity draws attention to these things, right.

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<v Speaker 4>And there will be photos, So disclaimer warning, whatever you

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<v Speaker 4>want to say right now, there are pictures of children,

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<v Speaker 4>medical photos. These are medical photos. This is not exploitation,

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<v Speaker 4>but it is what it is. This comes from medical

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<v Speaker 4>journals most of it. So we can't I always say

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<v Speaker 4>pictures worth a thousand words with this type of stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is.

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<v Speaker 4>So in fact, I didn't catch one of them that

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<v Speaker 4>Janet caught and I wasn't ready, so when we get

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<v Speaker 4>to that one, I was like, uh.

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<v Speaker 2>Sir, holy shit.

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<v Speaker 3>To put it mildly. And again, curiosity comes from people, right,

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<v Speaker 3>And and what do we do if we're out in

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<v Speaker 3>public and we see something that's unusual or something we

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<v Speaker 3>weren't read it, we haven't seen before. It's not that

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<v Speaker 3>we're trying to be rude and stare and whatever. We're

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<v Speaker 3>just like, oh my gosh. Now for me, I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>that looks painful or you know whatever, depending on whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is. So sometimes and not. We've both been in

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<v Speaker 3>this business a long time. We've seen some stuff, right,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's always you I haven't.

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<v Speaker 4>For those of you that don't know, Janet and I

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<v Speaker 4>are both registered nurses. We've been in the game very

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<v Speaker 4>long time. Janet, how long have you been in Like

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<v Speaker 4>we're in prison, nineteen ninety, yes, and I'm ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 4>So we're right there and we've seen a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why we do this show because I said

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<v Speaker 4>to Janet, Hey, this is weird stuff that I was

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<v Speaker 4>fascinated with in school.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we like go down this weird rabbit hole of

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<v Speaker 2>medical stuff? Because I mean, I can't talk like this

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<v Speaker 2>with everybody so right, But like I said, I'll get

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<v Speaker 2>when I get to it.

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<v Speaker 4>That one I wasn't ready, but I'm pretty sure you

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<v Speaker 4>might know. But I can pull up these pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got some awesome ones today, let me tell you what.

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<v Speaker 3>And I love stuff like this. I love the weird,

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<v Speaker 3>the wild and trauma. Trauma is literally my favorite thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But I will say I'm gonna throw this out there.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of these skin things I have seen or

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<v Speaker 3>heard of before because the teaching facility that I worked for,

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<v Speaker 3>the doctor that you know I worked underneath, he loved

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<v Speaker 3>doing skin stuff. And that is literally one of the

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<v Speaker 3>things I learned when I started out that he would

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<v Speaker 3>always call me in and go, what do you think

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<v Speaker 3>this is?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? You had firsthand? That's cool. Yeah, I put this up.

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<v Speaker 2>And so as we talk, I know you might be

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<v Speaker 2>in a different order, but I just slapped him together.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully that works.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I started with albinism, so all right, that'll work. Her

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<v Speaker 4>hair is badass p s. I am a fan of

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<v Speaker 4>the big Texas hair.

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<v Speaker 3>Hey, that was eighties duce for me, right, Yeah, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Could have done some crazy hair because you've got a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of hair.

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<v Speaker 3>I do have a lot of hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, awesome. So this gale has a lot of hair.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you see this photo?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yep, I see it. And so there's a lady

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<v Speaker 3>kind of dressed like Victorian esque, right, and she has

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<v Speaker 3>this wild hair, a lot of hair, yes, and of course,

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<v Speaker 3>white eyebrows, white hair, the whole nine yards. And so

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<v Speaker 3>I have been around of a lot of people that

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<v Speaker 3>have the same condition. Right, So this is from a

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<v Speaker 3>lack of melanin and the skin, and so it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, melanin is what helps you to make color,

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<v Speaker 3>whether it be your hair, your eyebrows, your eyelashes, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>These people are lacking. So everything that you're going to

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<v Speaker 3>see on them is white, and generally speaking, their skin

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<v Speaker 3>is uber uber white too.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that the Mormons would love these people because

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<v Speaker 4>they like white and delightsome.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a quote. But my so, my mom's husband,

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<v Speaker 2>which is not my dad, my stepdad, he actually has

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<v Speaker 2>two nieces that are full albinism with the pink eyes

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<v Speaker 2>and everything, and actually he's Latino, which is really was

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<v Speaker 2>really weird for them. They were like, whoa, what happened here?

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<v Speaker 2>But it happens. It happens in all races, and I

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<v Speaker 2>have a bunch of pictures for that as well. So well.

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<v Speaker 3>And the terrible thing is, and people are probably gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get squeally about this one, but because of people that

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<v Speaker 3>have the albinism, Circus side shows capitalized on this in

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<v Speaker 3>a big way because they would put them next to

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<v Speaker 3>African American performers so they could contrast it as black

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<v Speaker 3>and white. And please don't get mad for me, saying this,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm quoting what the what the side show said. They

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<v Speaker 3>were white negros. Yes, that is what they billed them

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<v Speaker 3>as in the sideshow, So that was not me. I

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<v Speaker 3>did not make that up on my own. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>was said.

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<v Speaker 2>So yes, and this is kind of an example of

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<v Speaker 2>a darker skinned person. I'm not going to say the.

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<v Speaker 4>One word, but you know y'all already heard it, and

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<v Speaker 4>this isn't nowadays. I don't know if he puts color

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<v Speaker 4>in his beard and stuff, but he is albino, and

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<v Speaker 4>he is African American and so kind of fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>The worst one I saw.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you saw this one for the

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<v Speaker 4>African American people, these twins, this story, now you got

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<v Speaker 4>some explaining to do, Barnum explaining, because let me tell you,

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<v Speaker 4>these kids were stolen, straight stolen.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the mother did not know where these kids went.

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<v Speaker 4>I think they were in a cafe or something, and

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<v Speaker 4>the circus took them at like age six or something.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, uh, that's something wild. Okay, what

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<v Speaker 2>is that thing there?

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<v Speaker 3>That kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it? Stealing things that

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<v Speaker 3>don't belong to you so that you can make money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we have been talking about that.

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<v Speaker 4>In this case, they were literally stolen from their Virginia

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<v Speaker 4>home and then they were told their mother was dead,

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<v Speaker 4>and so this was like horrible. I can't And their

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<v Speaker 4>last name is Muse. They called them the Muse twins,

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<v Speaker 4>but I don't think they actually were twins. I think

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<v Speaker 4>they were just really close in age. But they were

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<v Speaker 4>told their mom died and that they had to live

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<v Speaker 4>with them now. So because nobody else was there, they

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<v Speaker 4>didn't have a dad and so yeah, the dad was

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<v Speaker 4>philandering around.

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of wonder if.

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<v Speaker 3>The dad seldom. Yeah, so that's the first thing that

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<v Speaker 3>popped into my head. So that's Echo and Echo Echo.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I don't think that's their real names. And

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<v Speaker 2>it just was really a weird story. And guess what.

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<v Speaker 4>They end up going back to the town where they

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<v Speaker 4>were stolen from eventually as adults in their twenties, and

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<v Speaker 4>like I said, they thought their mother was dead, and

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<v Speaker 4>the mother seen them and she fought to get those

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<v Speaker 2>Though they were adults. Like the circus tried to own

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<v Speaker 2>them and they had a happy reunion, but it took

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 3>So flooding weaknessesness, It was very yeah, that is like

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<v Speaker 3>super super sad that that that happened. But does that

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<v Speaker 3>shock me with the culture and I meant that we

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<v Speaker 3>live in today where there's a lot of missing children

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<v Speaker 3>and for a lot of different purposes for making them.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, I agree on that, and definitely you know, we

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<v Speaker 4>see that in all all phases of life.

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<v Speaker 3>Well and kind of like we talked about and the

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<v Speaker 3>sideshow one with the seafarer stuff is that there is

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<v Speaker 3>a niche fetish community for literally everything on the planet.

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<v Speaker 3>So with all the child exploitation and stuff that's out

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<v Speaker 3>there in rampant right now, if they can find people

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<v Speaker 3>to feed those fetishes, so that's better for them, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, yep.

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<v Speaker 4>This is kind of how my stepdad's nieces look. They've

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<v Speaker 4>got the more pink eyes and a lot of times

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<v Speaker 4>when that is an occurrence, they are blind, which is

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<v Speaker 4>and they are they have permanent nice stagmus. And for

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<v Speaker 4>people that don't know, that's just like when your eyes

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<v Speaker 4>go really fast. And when I was young, it kind

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<v Speaker 4>of scared me like, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, oh my gosh, again staring right with curiosity because

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<v Speaker 3>you've never seen it before and you're like, what the heck,

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<v Speaker 3>what is that? Like, why is that happening? Why are

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<v Speaker 3>their eyes doing Latin?

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, hello, like what is going because I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't old enough to understand, right, Like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>can that happen? They're white, and he was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a thing. So random, really, I mean, they were

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<v Speaker 4>super nice. They've lived full lives, they've had children, everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So they the people that that I knew that had this,

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<v Speaker 3>Like they didn't have the red eyes, but their eyes

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<v Speaker 3>were like really really pale, really pale, like a very

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<v Speaker 3>washed out like blue color.

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<v Speaker 2>And I tried to get different all different ethnicities so

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<v Speaker 2>we could see, you know, all the different people that

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<v Speaker 2>have it, because it happens in everything.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't know where we're looking Asian mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you know how often it happens. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>fairly common.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I think, if I'm not mistaken. One of the

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<v Speaker 3>places that I read said that this is more common

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<v Speaker 3>in Africa. Well, okay, yep, Sub Saharan Africa is the

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<v Speaker 3>most common region for currencies.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow. And so.

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<v Speaker 3>Being that there's like a large percentage in that particular region,

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<v Speaker 3>they marketed them as the human ghosts as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, these are some more Barnum twins. I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>didn't steal them.

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<v Speaker 3>As well, but well that would not surprise me. But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, because a lot of the circus things that

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<v Speaker 4>And we'll do one on circuses as well, you guys,

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<v Speaker 4>probably midpoint we'll deep dive into that because it is

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<v Speaker 4>a dark, dark story, and let alone, the origin of

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<v Speaker 2>Very occultish, so.

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<v Speaker 4>Very strange, very strange, indeed. But these are the ones

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<v Speaker 4>I pulled. I definitely found, you know, this would be

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<v Speaker 2>I know that sounds harsh, but I mean it is

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<v Speaker 4>Livable the blindness one isn't isn't as bad. Yes, they

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<v Speaker 4>can there are some myths about albinism. Yes, they can

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<v Speaker 4>dye their hair. Yes, it does work. It falls out

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<v Speaker 4>fast right, just like gray hair. If you if you've

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<v Speaker 4>super quick in but not with this type. They also,

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<v Speaker 4>relatively quote unquote normal if they want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm not pushing that. I think they're beautiful the

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<v Speaker 2>way they are. But there.

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<v Speaker 3>Though, the ones with the with the red eyes are

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<v Speaker 3>please don't get upset about this by any means, but

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<v Speaker 3>they remind me of those white lab mice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly what I was gonna say. Oh my gosh, and.

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<v Speaker 4>For a reason, right, I just think that it's something

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<v Speaker 4>that you think of when you see this, because it isn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the only other species I know of, at

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<v Speaker 4>least that is relatively common to have white haired, peak eyes, right,

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<v Speaker 4>And so whatever that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it is. It is what it is. Yeah, So,

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<v Speaker 2>but definitely the least offensive.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and you know why weird to me? Okay, The

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<v Speaker 3>actual medical name for this is oculo cutaneous albinism. So

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<v Speaker 3>oculo is the eye, right, and so cutaneous is the skin.

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<v Speaker 3>So it automatically says in the actual medical title that

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<v Speaker 1>Mm.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, that makes complete sense.

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<v Speaker 3>That's why the coloring in their eyes is different because

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, me, I like white skin or dark skin,

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<v Speaker 2>one way or the other.

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<v Speaker 4>And so I mean, I could see he ended up

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<v Speaker 4>with somebody if they had a little red tint to it,

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<v Speaker 4>if I wasn't married.

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<v Speaker 2>Just saying the redheaded one, he was pretty cute. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just saying, hey.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at me with those beady little eyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Mister. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just saying, but good thing

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<v Speaker 2>I'm taking up. You know, my husband's right white albino.

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<v Speaker 3>He is not, No, he's not.

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<v Speaker 4>He likes to make jokes about that. He's like whatever,

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<v Speaker 4>But the white eyebrows are kind of cool. My husband

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<v Speaker 4>eyebrows going to come in? And I'm like, I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 4>You're a child of a never dirty blonde and a redhead.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah she's eleven.

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<v Speaker 2>We're still way and I'm gonna teach you how to

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<v Speaker 2>draw on. That was the one thing Sam Tripoli said

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<v Speaker 2>to me. I don't know if you watched it, that

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<v Speaker 2>was really funny. The show opens up with him saying,

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<v Speaker 2>I love your eyebrows, and I was like, weird cool like,

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<v Speaker 2>and he's like, they're dark with the blonde hair.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, yeah, when you are blondish, not that my

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<v Speaker 4>hair is this blonde, but it is naturally dirty blonde

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<v Speaker 4>that you don't have a lot of eyebrows, so you

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<v Speaker 4>learn to get good at the eyebrows and you never why.

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<v Speaker 3>It's funny. It's like when I was growing up, mine

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<v Speaker 3>was like dirty blonde. I call it dishwater blonde.

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<v Speaker 2>Dishwater blonde.

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<v Speaker 3>And like, my hair has changed color so many times

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<v Speaker 3>over the year because I was when I was born,

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<v Speaker 3>it was jet black. Oh really, and then it turned

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<v Speaker 3>to the dirty dishwater blonde thing, and now it's brown

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<v Speaker 3>and this is like God's thing, and so like, even

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<v Speaker 3>my eyebrows and stuff have changed color. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what's going on with me, but obviously

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a freaking nature.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, I take it. I like your hair color. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it looks like auburn. I think it's pretty.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's got it's got a little bit of red

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<v Speaker 3>and a little bit of blonde in it, and of

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<v Speaker 3>course I like it, you know, I like it. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>keep my gray.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not young ends.

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<v Speaker 4>I just did have another birthday. Next year, I'm going

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<v Speaker 4>to really celebrate because i'll be fifty. But yeah, when

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<v Speaker 4>I see you and I'm okay, I'm okay.

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<v Speaker 3>This year, I'm going to celebrate with that Denny's Senior

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<v Speaker 3>Citizen discount that I get nowadays. So there you go.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't look it, so it's cheating. Yeah, it's cheating.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't be like, show me your license, lady. So the

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<v Speaker 4>next one I have on the roster is very scary

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<v Speaker 4>and sad. But this is the vampire syndrome one. Uh,

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<v Speaker 4>and I can't remember the real name for it. I

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<v Speaker 4>can look, well moon children vampires are moon children they were.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I gotta find it because there's so many different

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<v Speaker 3>ones here. It is it is zero derma pigmentosum.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes. And this one is sad.

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<v Speaker 4>They cannot go outside in the sun or they like

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<v Speaker 4>burn to death. Like this is burns from like barely

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<v Speaker 4>any sunlight.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, And this this girl that we're looking at not

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<v Speaker 3>only has like severe burns and things on her face,

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<v Speaker 3>but also, uh, the sclera, the white of the eyes

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<v Speaker 3>is also burnt.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and it's it's actually they get these freckles after

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<v Speaker 4>they go out in the sun. Like for no amount

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<v Speaker 4>of time whatsoever, and they scar them like the burning

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<v Speaker 4>and the scar it's it's bad because we're going to

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<v Speaker 4>see this next picture, see how her arms and stuff are.

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<v Speaker 4>She she knows now, so she only goes out at

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<v Speaker 4>nighttime at this point. This is really prevalent in India,

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<v Speaker 4>which is weird. Yeah, and so she knows. And they

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<v Speaker 4>call it the children of India at Night or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that.

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<v Speaker 3>And so well, and this one is a DNA repair disorder.

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<v Speaker 3>It says it's caused by mutations and nucleotide excision repair

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<v Speaker 3>genes and so the skin cannot heal or repair itself

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<v Speaker 3>and so it causes this, uh, like scarring happened.

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<v Speaker 2>That is like keloid scars.

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<v Speaker 4>They're kind of This one I think shows it the

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<v Speaker 4>best that these are like keelois because which if if

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<v Speaker 4>you guys don't know, cheloids are just like bumpy scars,

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<v Speaker 4>any scar that's raised to a certain level. And so

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<v Speaker 4>she has them kind of everywhere from I would assume,

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<v Speaker 4>not knowing, you know, as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is her as well. I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is her.

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<v Speaker 3>Later, so it says with this particular condition that not

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<v Speaker 3>only is the immediate burning an issue, but it is

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<v Speaker 3>also closely associated with major neurological complications, which would make sense,

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<v Speaker 3>especially if it is frying the white of your eye

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<v Speaker 3>because to your cranial nerves and stuff, and you have

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of nerves controlling your facial movements and all

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<v Speaker 3>of that stuff. And so I can imagine like that

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<v Speaker 3>all the neurological problems that could take place because of this.

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<v Speaker 4>And they have a sixty percent higher skin cancer of course,

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<v Speaker 4>you know occurrence, which makes sense. I mean, but the

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<v Speaker 4>eyes even seem like they they have that glossed over yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>cataract yep.

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<v Speaker 3>So if you ever see people like this, I've actually

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<v Speaker 3>seen one person with this during my tenure at the

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<v Speaker 3>Teaching hospital, and it's very interesting because they literally have

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<v Speaker 3>to either never go out in the sun, never go

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<v Speaker 3>out during the daytime, or they have to completely cover

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<v Speaker 3>from hedge toe so that there's no exposed skin. So

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<v Speaker 3>if you ever see anybody that's wearing like long sleep shirt,

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<v Speaker 3>long pants, gloves, hat that get the gators, the face gators,

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<v Speaker 3>net gators, that's probably somebody that has this condition.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, And it just looks I mean, if you didn't know,

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<v Speaker 4>like all of this scarring and stuff would occur super early,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, and then I mean obviously after you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you wouldn't go. It does cause rickets too because they

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<v Speaker 4>don't have vitamin D ever from the sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, they get all these problems that would be terrible.

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<v Speaker 4>She said, she has often broken her bones and her

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<v Speaker 4>dad was carrying her down the stairs in the article

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<v Speaker 4>I was reading about it because she had again broken

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<v Speaker 4>one of her bones, which and.

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<v Speaker 3>I could say that because if you can't absorb the

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<v Speaker 3>vitamin D through your skin, then you can't absorb vitamin

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<v Speaker 3>C and the other vitamins that are necessary for that either.

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<v Speaker 4>So yes, and this one I wanted to make sure

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<v Speaker 4>and include this is a vitaligo, and vitel igo can

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<v Speaker 4>happen also with any color of person. This girl looks

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<v Speaker 4>maybe somewhat Asian but dye her hair, or possibly just Caucasian,

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<v Speaker 4>but it does happen to white people.

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<v Speaker 2>Also. I think this has kind of been labeled as

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<v Speaker 2>like a black person thing, and it's not, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's litteral anybody in the world, which most I

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<v Speaker 3>will say most of the patients that we saw and

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<v Speaker 3>traded for this were African American. I never saw a

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<v Speaker 3>case of an Indian one in our office, but we

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<v Speaker 3>did have one one Caucasian person.

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<v Speaker 4>This one is a Caucasian little boy and you can

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<v Speaker 4>tell naturally he's quite tan, you know, but the white

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<v Speaker 4>in between is very like pronounced, it's very white like extreme,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mean it's pretty disfiguring. Although people I think

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<v Speaker 4>this is more out there right now a days, like

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<v Speaker 4>my daughter has a Barbie.

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<v Speaker 2>With this so because she has some issues with Cafe

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<v Speaker 2>l A spots, which we'll get to here soon. But

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<v Speaker 2>this one was, uh, yeah, she was one of the

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<v Speaker 2>famous famous girls. Think they called her Leopard Girl or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's one of the pictures that I actually have

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<v Speaker 3>on the thumbnail for the episode. So for people that

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, vetta laigo is a loss of pigment in

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<v Speaker 3>the skin causing severe white patches. And so yes, even

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<v Speaker 3>if you're white, you can get the white patches because

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<v Speaker 3>the melanin and stuff in your skin is absent in

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<v Speaker 3>those areas. And they think they're pretty sure that this

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<v Speaker 3>is an autoimmune disease that causes the destruction of the

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<v Speaker 3>melanocytes and so it's autoimmune.

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<v Speaker 2>They can I know, they've been treating it differently as

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<v Speaker 2>of recently too. I think they're giving them different rejection me.

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<v Speaker 3>Oops, yeah, I just said a oh you're good a

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<v Speaker 3>brand name. Sorry about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we've done it before, so and I've heard it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like giving people back their color, like returning their color,

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<v Speaker 4>which is wild to supposedly.

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<v Speaker 3>But here's my thing with the autoimmune diseases. There's always

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<v Speaker 3>some kind of underlying cause that's causing the complication or

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<v Speaker 3>the problem to exist in the first place. So a

425
00:26:26.599 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 3>one size fits all treatment for people is not going

426
00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:36.480
<v Speaker 3>to help everybody obviously, because there's something different and every

427
00:26:36.680 --> 00:26:40.960
<v Speaker 3>person that is causing that to happen. Yeah, So how

428
00:26:41.039 --> 00:26:42.559
<v Speaker 3>effective are those meds.

429
00:26:42.400 --> 00:26:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Going to be? You don't know, We don't know and

430
00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:49.640
<v Speaker 2>at what cost? Right? This is her as she's a

431
00:26:49.759 --> 00:26:54.480
<v Speaker 2>younger person. I think so a lot of.

432
00:26:54.519 --> 00:27:00.079
<v Speaker 3>Times when when the circus build these people, they it

433
00:27:00.240 --> 00:27:05.920
<v Speaker 3>be Leopard men, spotted boys, Leopard girl, stuff like that,

434
00:27:06.359 --> 00:27:09.279
<v Speaker 3>or there was something else. It was some crazy off

435
00:27:09.359 --> 00:27:12.519
<v Speaker 3>the wall name and I'm like, what, like, where would

436
00:27:12.559 --> 00:27:16.920
<v Speaker 3>you even call them that? Call it that? But okay, whatever,

437
00:27:18.680 --> 00:27:20.359
<v Speaker 3>that's Yeah, that's sad.

438
00:27:20.920 --> 00:27:21.319
<v Speaker 2>This one.

439
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.680
<v Speaker 4>Also on this next one, it's a similar and I

440
00:27:24.759 --> 00:27:27.200
<v Speaker 4>wanted to put it next to it because it's also

441
00:27:27.519 --> 00:27:31.759
<v Speaker 4>leopard like under the leopard diagnosis, it's more of a

442
00:27:31.880 --> 00:27:35.119
<v Speaker 4>Noonan's syndrome and it's it's not.

443
00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:35.799
<v Speaker 2>The same thing.

444
00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:39.200
<v Speaker 4>But they are very spotted as well, and they're pointing

445
00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:40.880
<v Speaker 4>the arrow because that's a melanoma.

446
00:27:41.319 --> 00:27:47.960
<v Speaker 3>And so I was gonna say, this is hold on,

447
00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:53.880
<v Speaker 3>you're good because we have had this as well. Let

448
00:27:53.960 --> 00:27:56.200
<v Speaker 3>me find it because there are so many.

449
00:27:56.640 --> 00:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>There is a lot on skin.

450
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.680
<v Speaker 4>I was able to really find a lot of cool

451
00:28:00.759 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 4>slides like on these because I mean, there's no way

452
00:28:04.559 --> 00:28:08.079
<v Speaker 4>we could explain this to you guys perfectly without showing you.

453
00:28:08.319 --> 00:28:11.759
<v Speaker 2>So they're all similar but different.

454
00:28:12.319 --> 00:28:24.599
<v Speaker 3>This has something to do with moles. Oh, I have

455
00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:27.039
<v Speaker 3>this my notes. I just have to find it because

456
00:28:27.039 --> 00:28:30.119
<v Speaker 3>I have. I have like twelve pages of notes.

457
00:28:30.200 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 2>So next time I got to get Janet's numbers and

458
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.200
<v Speaker 2>do them in order so I don't mess her up.

459
00:28:38.960 --> 00:28:46.119
<v Speaker 2>Let's see spotted syndrome. I'll look as well so that

460
00:28:46.240 --> 00:28:52.279
<v Speaker 2>we can let's see it is on.

461
00:28:53.839 --> 00:28:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, So.

462
00:28:58.200 --> 00:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they literally call it leopards And there.

463
00:29:00.960 --> 00:29:08.519
<v Speaker 3>Is linear epidermal nevus syndrome that shows up as wart

464
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:13.960
<v Speaker 3>like often pigmented skin lesion or lesions that follow the

465
00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:23.160
<v Speaker 3>lines of embryonic cell development and commously dismissed as birthmarks,

466
00:29:23.319 --> 00:29:26.119
<v Speaker 3>especially if it's just a smaller patch than this one is.

467
00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:31.799
<v Speaker 3>But there's also another one that.

468
00:29:32.240 --> 00:29:36.759
<v Speaker 2>Is Newnan's syndrome. Is one of them that this particular

469
00:29:36.880 --> 00:29:42.000
<v Speaker 2>man's photo says, this is Newnan syndrome, but they're pointing

470
00:29:42.039 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 2>out the the melanoma there in that photo.

471
00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:48.400
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's what the one that I just read said

472
00:29:48.480 --> 00:29:53.039
<v Speaker 3>that they are at a greater risk for melanoma. There's

473
00:29:53.240 --> 00:30:01.839
<v Speaker 3>actually two congenital melanocidic nevus or giant mole syndrome, which

474
00:30:01.960 --> 00:30:05.240
<v Speaker 3>that guy had very large moles on there.

475
00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.559
<v Speaker 2>This one too, I think is what you're might be.

476
00:30:09.680 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it says with the congingital melanocidic nevus, it

477
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:21.680
<v Speaker 3>says large dark, often hairy patches. So holy moly maha.

478
00:30:23.480 --> 00:30:27.640
<v Speaker 3>I always think of that Larry the Cable Eyes where

479
00:30:27.680 --> 00:30:35.359
<v Speaker 3>I heard that from his girlfriend, hollly Moly. So this

480
00:30:35.559 --> 00:30:41.240
<v Speaker 3>says that large, dark, often hairy patches can cover up

481
00:30:41.279 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 3>to eighty percent of the body. It's caused by mutations

482
00:30:45.960 --> 00:30:51.319
<v Speaker 3>during fetal development, with an extremely high risk of melanoma.

483
00:30:52.119 --> 00:30:52.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh, wow.

484
00:30:53.720 --> 00:30:57.119
<v Speaker 4>And these can often be mistaken for the same thing.

485
00:30:57.799 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 4>But these are Cafe o'lay spot and this one I

486
00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:05.559
<v Speaker 4>do know a little bit about. This is often with

487
00:31:06.440 --> 00:31:09.559
<v Speaker 4>NF one or you know, there's two types. There's n

488
00:31:09.599 --> 00:31:12.640
<v Speaker 4>F two and NF one, but NF one should have

489
00:31:12.839 --> 00:31:15.240
<v Speaker 4>And I was gonna put this in here, but if

490
00:31:15.279 --> 00:31:17.799
<v Speaker 4>you think of the freckles that guy had all over

491
00:31:18.039 --> 00:31:21.799
<v Speaker 4>on that last syndrome, underneath their armpits or their folds,

492
00:31:21.880 --> 00:31:25.240
<v Speaker 4>like in your elbows, or your knees and your knee

493
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.519
<v Speaker 4>pits right like your thigh whatever, anywhere where skin rubs,

494
00:31:29.519 --> 00:31:33.200
<v Speaker 4>they get that really dark freckling like the other guy had,

495
00:31:33.279 --> 00:31:37.200
<v Speaker 4>but just in those areas with these spots, because there's

496
00:31:37.440 --> 00:31:39.039
<v Speaker 4>criteria that you have to meet.

497
00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:42.039
<v Speaker 2>My daughter was diagnosed with NF one.

498
00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.839
<v Speaker 4>She has about ten or twelve of these spots, just

499
00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:47.920
<v Speaker 4>like this kid, and she had them before she was

500
00:31:48.000 --> 00:31:50.759
<v Speaker 4>three months and they said, oh, well, she just has

501
00:31:50.960 --> 00:31:53.799
<v Speaker 4>enough one and the more I research, I don't think so,

502
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 4>because she doesn't have the freckling of the armpits. And

503
00:31:57.559 --> 00:32:01.240
<v Speaker 4>also you're supposed to have lish nodules your eyes, which

504
00:32:01.519 --> 00:32:05.000
<v Speaker 4>they try and look for every single year for her.

505
00:32:05.079 --> 00:32:08.079
<v Speaker 4>But she's never had them, and then it can go

506
00:32:08.279 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 4>very badly, which we're gonna get into on the next

507
00:32:11.799 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 4>little segment here.

508
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:18.319
<v Speaker 2>It's a situation you guys like the goodies to come

509
00:32:18.920 --> 00:32:19.839
<v Speaker 2>brace yourself.

510
00:32:20.680 --> 00:32:26.000
<v Speaker 4>This is also considered only the minor, like it is severe,

511
00:32:26.319 --> 00:32:30.079
<v Speaker 4>but it is, but it isn't, because we're gonna show

512
00:32:30.119 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 4>you it can get way worse. You'll see these people

513
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:36.839
<v Speaker 4>and sometimes it will look like the moles. That's why

514
00:32:36.880 --> 00:32:40.680
<v Speaker 4>I brought it up now, because it can be misdiagnosed

515
00:32:40.720 --> 00:32:43.640
<v Speaker 4>for a little while, but these gross cannot be removed really, right,

516
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:45.599
<v Speaker 4>they get worse.

517
00:32:46.039 --> 00:32:51.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And this is what we're looking at is neurofibromatosis,

518
00:32:52.839 --> 00:33:00.559
<v Speaker 3>and it's tumor gleros tumor gross along the nerves in

519
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:07.480
<v Speaker 3>the skin, and so it creates large clumpy nodules or clusters.

520
00:33:07.759 --> 00:33:12.680
<v Speaker 3>A lot of times they'll they'll hang in particular areas

521
00:33:12.759 --> 00:33:19.319
<v Speaker 3>and so they hang like grapes. The thing about neurofibromatosis

522
00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:24.319
<v Speaker 3>is that because they follow the nerve paths, capillaries also

523
00:33:24.559 --> 00:33:28.599
<v Speaker 3>follow the nerve paths, which is your blood supply, which

524
00:33:28.720 --> 00:33:32.880
<v Speaker 3>is what continues to feed them all the time. And

525
00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:38.359
<v Speaker 3>if they do like lasering, Like lasering is the only

526
00:33:38.480 --> 00:33:43.559
<v Speaker 3>way to remove these, but when they laser them, they

527
00:33:43.640 --> 00:33:49.759
<v Speaker 3>will come back because it's fed along that same capillary

528
00:33:50.480 --> 00:33:51.440
<v Speaker 3>nerve pathway.

529
00:33:51.799 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 4>So but I think I would still opt. When you

530
00:33:55.000 --> 00:33:57.799
<v Speaker 4>said hang like grapes, I wanted to bring this photo

531
00:33:57.839 --> 00:34:01.279
<v Speaker 4>out even though this would considered NFT because it's so severe.

532
00:34:02.559 --> 00:34:05.799
<v Speaker 4>But I mean at the point that it starts to

533
00:34:05.960 --> 00:34:08.599
<v Speaker 4>affect you in your facial area, and we're going to

534
00:34:08.639 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 4>talk about one of the most famous here in a minute.

535
00:34:11.800 --> 00:34:14.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's just sad. I just think that, like

536
00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.079
<v Speaker 2>I would opt regardless, you know, I don't know. It

537
00:34:20.239 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 2>just seems like it would impede your life so bad.

538
00:34:22.159 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 3>There are some people that I've seen that have this

539
00:34:25.480 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 3>that it's not terrible, it's just in like certain areas

540
00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 3>or certain places. But I've also seen patients that are

541
00:34:36.000 --> 00:34:39.519
<v Speaker 3>literally covered from head to toe. It's on their eyelids,

542
00:34:39.639 --> 00:34:43.519
<v Speaker 3>it's literally everywhere, and so sad.

543
00:34:43.800 --> 00:34:47.880
<v Speaker 4>And usually if you're going to see NF one become severe,

544
00:34:48.599 --> 00:34:52.320
<v Speaker 4>it will be around puberty. Not always a lot of

545
00:34:52.400 --> 00:34:55.679
<v Speaker 4>times people just have the cafe olet spots and that's it.

546
00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:59.880
<v Speaker 4>But now, like I said, they're changing criteria and there's

547
00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:04.119
<v Speaker 4>saying no, that's it's not the same thing because it.

548
00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 2>Spot a lady apparently my daughter.

549
00:35:07.480 --> 00:35:09.480
<v Speaker 4>We've just told her that's where angels kissed her and

550
00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:11.400
<v Speaker 4>you know, because they loved her so much.

551
00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:13.599
<v Speaker 2>Because you've got to deal with it.

552
00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.079
<v Speaker 4>Like they're they're all I mean, they're visible, you know,

553
00:35:17.239 --> 00:35:19.840
<v Speaker 4>not on her face, like if she's in a bathing

554
00:35:19.920 --> 00:35:23.280
<v Speaker 4>suit or something. Yeah, they're they're they're flat, they're like

555
00:35:23.400 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 4>the other pictures. But when it advances into this NF two,

556
00:35:27.079 --> 00:35:30.199
<v Speaker 4>it doesn't have These people aren't born like this. This

557
00:35:30.440 --> 00:35:32.559
<v Speaker 4>is the hardest part I think of this disease is

558
00:35:32.719 --> 00:35:37.039
<v Speaker 4>it goes from you know, your normal kid and then

559
00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 4>by like two years old, if it's going to advance

560
00:35:39.320 --> 00:35:43.800
<v Speaker 4>into this NF too, like the elephant man, they said

561
00:35:43.840 --> 00:35:46.679
<v Speaker 4>around two years old, it started affecting his lips first,

562
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.559
<v Speaker 4>and so started having gross on his lips and then

563
00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.440
<v Speaker 4>you know, everything started going more and more and more.

564
00:35:54.679 --> 00:35:58.199
<v Speaker 4>And Okay, I have to say this part, and this

565
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:03.960
<v Speaker 4>is so sad. He's normal in one area of his

566
00:36:04.119 --> 00:36:08.079
<v Speaker 4>body and that's his dick. Okay, Like I'm trying not

567
00:36:08.199 --> 00:36:11.960
<v Speaker 4>to be crassyer people, but I'm just saying his squeaky stick.

568
00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:15.840
<v Speaker 4>His Twinkie stick is fine, And I'm like, oh my gosh,

569
00:36:16.000 --> 00:36:18.599
<v Speaker 4>is that like a curse to have your whole body

570
00:36:18.679 --> 00:36:22.119
<v Speaker 4>is super cuckoo crazy? And then the one thing, I mean,

571
00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:25.440
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad it works for his urine gentro urinary system.

572
00:36:25.280 --> 00:36:27.920
<v Speaker 2>But like he's ever going to be okay.

573
00:36:28.000 --> 00:36:34.800
<v Speaker 3>So looking at this picture like it's him, uh from

574
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:40.199
<v Speaker 3>a side view, and you can see like these neurofibromatosis

575
00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:46.920
<v Speaker 3>tumors are literally hanging like a cluster. It looks like

576
00:36:47.039 --> 00:36:52.199
<v Speaker 3>a giant brain sagging off of his butt. And because

577
00:36:52.360 --> 00:36:54.199
<v Speaker 3>these run around.

578
00:36:53.960 --> 00:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like the cow water.

579
00:36:55.320 --> 00:37:03.400
<v Speaker 3>It's because these run around neural pathway. I can't imagine

580
00:37:03.519 --> 00:37:07.079
<v Speaker 3>the pain that he would have if he even tried

581
00:37:07.239 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 3>to sit down.

582
00:37:10.559 --> 00:37:13.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, they said, the only way. I don't know. Are

583
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.800
<v Speaker 2>you going to go into his backstory at all? Or

584
00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:16.639
<v Speaker 2>shall shall?

585
00:37:16.719 --> 00:37:18.000
<v Speaker 3>I yeah you can.

586
00:37:18.840 --> 00:37:22.840
<v Speaker 4>It's sad, So I mean people probably may have seen

587
00:37:22.920 --> 00:37:27.199
<v Speaker 4>his movie. But the sad part is is his mom

588
00:37:27.320 --> 00:37:29.880
<v Speaker 4>treated him very well and loved him. Like I said,

589
00:37:29.960 --> 00:37:32.559
<v Speaker 4>he was born normal and so this didn't happen until

590
00:37:32.639 --> 00:37:36.119
<v Speaker 4>later about eighteen months is when things started getting weird.

591
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 4>And then his mom dies, like the worst thing ever,

592
00:37:40.639 --> 00:37:44.039
<v Speaker 4>because his dad was not very nice. And then he

593
00:37:44.159 --> 00:37:46.519
<v Speaker 4>gets remarried and has all these other kids and they're

594
00:37:46.559 --> 00:37:51.400
<v Speaker 4>all fine, like totally fine, and so he feels completely

595
00:37:51.519 --> 00:37:55.239
<v Speaker 4>like crap, you know, and sees that they're all more

596
00:37:55.320 --> 00:37:59.079
<v Speaker 4>handsome and normal. He can't communicate because since it started

597
00:37:59.440 --> 00:38:03.920
<v Speaker 4>messing with his oral area, like he couldn't talk at all,

598
00:38:04.280 --> 00:38:07.559
<v Speaker 4>and like he could mumble, but nobody understood him ever,

599
00:38:08.719 --> 00:38:11.639
<v Speaker 4>and it was very sad. But they said his emotional

600
00:38:12.199 --> 00:38:14.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, obviously it was intact, like his brain was intact.

601
00:38:14.880 --> 00:38:15.519
<v Speaker 2>He wasn't dumb.

602
00:38:16.440 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 4>But these people treated him so badly because, like Janet said,

603
00:38:20.039 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 4>he's in a ton of pain. These are extra this

604
00:38:22.800 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 4>isn't extremely painful disease, and back then they I don't

605
00:38:28.559 --> 00:38:30.199
<v Speaker 4>even know what they would do, but they didn't do

606
00:38:30.239 --> 00:38:31.880
<v Speaker 4>anything for him, and they sent him to work, and

607
00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.440
<v Speaker 4>since he couldn't work, like I guess other people, his

608
00:38:35.559 --> 00:38:38.719
<v Speaker 4>dad would beat him and so he did run away.

609
00:38:38.880 --> 00:38:40.559
<v Speaker 4>And he was one of the people that I feel

610
00:38:40.599 --> 00:38:45.719
<v Speaker 4>the circus saved because while he was a sideshow piece

611
00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.199
<v Speaker 4>in the circus, it was literally the only thing he

612
00:38:48.280 --> 00:38:52.480
<v Speaker 4>could do without causing great pain because otherwise he was

613
00:38:52.559 --> 00:38:54.320
<v Speaker 4>working in these workhouses and.

614
00:38:54.960 --> 00:38:57.519
<v Speaker 2>All this sad stuff. But then they stole his money

615
00:38:58.199 --> 00:39:00.000
<v Speaker 2>and abandoned.

616
00:39:00.599 --> 00:39:04.159
<v Speaker 4>And luckily the doctor that took care of him was

617
00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.599
<v Speaker 4>very kind to him because when he came back and

618
00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:09.440
<v Speaker 4>he didn't have any money or anything, I guess he

619
00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:11.519
<v Speaker 4>was it was during a time when they were like no.

620
00:39:11.599 --> 00:39:13.000
<v Speaker 2>More freak shows. That's weird.

621
00:39:13.480 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 4>Well, it left him without a way to do anything,

622
00:39:16.280 --> 00:39:18.119
<v Speaker 4>and so even if he stood on the corner, he

623
00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:18.760
<v Speaker 4>had nowhere to go.

624
00:39:18.880 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 2>He was homeless. At this point. He was like making

625
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:21.800
<v Speaker 2>a ruckus.

626
00:39:21.920 --> 00:39:24.079
<v Speaker 4>So they took him to the hospital and the doctor

627
00:39:24.559 --> 00:39:28.119
<v Speaker 4>like kind of saved him, but he literally asphyxiated himself.

628
00:39:28.199 --> 00:39:29.119
<v Speaker 2>That's how he died.

629
00:39:29.239 --> 00:39:32.440
<v Speaker 4>Because he couldn't even sleep laying down because these were

630
00:39:32.480 --> 00:39:35.559
<v Speaker 4>so bad. He slept sitting and he would take his

631
00:39:35.760 --> 00:39:40.079
<v Speaker 4>legs they said, I'm assuming they mean like pelvis, but

632
00:39:40.440 --> 00:39:42.760
<v Speaker 4>area I don't know, because legs didn't look so bad,

633
00:39:42.880 --> 00:39:46.599
<v Speaker 4>but regardless, I don't know, And he would sleep on

634
00:39:46.760 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 4>the folds of his skin, sitting up, and I guess

635
00:39:49.719 --> 00:39:54.760
<v Speaker 4>he just slipped and like is he's suffocated in his

636
00:39:54.880 --> 00:39:55.719
<v Speaker 4>own skin.

637
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:01.599
<v Speaker 3>Which is really really uh disturbing if you think about that,

638
00:40:01.800 --> 00:40:04.559
<v Speaker 3>because if you if you see pictures of this and

639
00:40:04.679 --> 00:40:10.880
<v Speaker 3>who we're talking about, uh was Joseph Merrick a k A.

640
00:40:11.800 --> 00:40:18.159
<v Speaker 3>You know, the elephant Man. So these have I mean

641
00:40:18.719 --> 00:40:24.239
<v Speaker 3>he has his left arm is normal or looks kind

642
00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:29.880
<v Speaker 3>of normal because of these overgrowths and stuff. And with

643
00:40:30.039 --> 00:40:33.519
<v Speaker 3>a lot of these people, especially with this and with

644
00:40:34.239 --> 00:40:42.800
<v Speaker 3>proteus syndrome and stuff, they have multiple different conditions at once.

645
00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>And so.

646
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:47.360
<v Speaker 3>There is a couple people that we talked about in

647
00:40:47.519 --> 00:40:51.840
<v Speaker 3>previous episodes that have more than one condition. And that's

648
00:40:51.880 --> 00:40:54.880
<v Speaker 3>what it looks like with him because his hand, his

649
00:40:55.119 --> 00:40:59.360
<v Speaker 3>right hand kind of looks like a lobster cloish type

650
00:40:59.480 --> 00:41:04.599
<v Speaker 3>like we talked about on episode one. And his chest

651
00:41:04.800 --> 00:41:07.840
<v Speaker 3>is very distorted in this picture, and so you can

652
00:41:07.960 --> 00:41:12.920
<v Speaker 3>see like the left breast and nipple the right one

653
00:41:13.119 --> 00:41:18.360
<v Speaker 3>is gone because of this hanging, narrow fried brow mirtosis.

654
00:41:20.280 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 2>So sad. He looks like he has quite a bad

655
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.239
<v Speaker 2>scoliosis too. I think if I read right, they have that,

656
00:41:26.519 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 2>Like that's kind of an adjunct to the Elephant Man.

657
00:41:30.719 --> 00:41:33.079
<v Speaker 2>But it's just sad.

658
00:41:33.159 --> 00:41:35.159
<v Speaker 4>He's not the only one that had it. This isn't

659
00:41:35.239 --> 00:41:39.320
<v Speaker 4>actually the elephant Man. His mouth was so distorted that

660
00:41:40.079 --> 00:41:44.960
<v Speaker 4>he couldn't even like this guy is another person that

661
00:41:45.119 --> 00:41:48.920
<v Speaker 4>was famous that played the Elephant Man, and I can't

662
00:41:48.960 --> 00:41:52.000
<v Speaker 4>remember his name, but it was you if you can

663
00:41:52.039 --> 00:41:55.079
<v Speaker 4>see here, like his mouth has got a lot of problems,

664
00:41:55.239 --> 00:41:58.760
<v Speaker 4>and the other guy it didn't seem quite as severe,

665
00:41:58.880 --> 00:42:00.800
<v Speaker 4>even though I mean it would be.

666
00:42:01.320 --> 00:42:04.679
<v Speaker 3>It would be really difficult, especially with the with the

667
00:42:04.880 --> 00:42:11.559
<v Speaker 3>severe facial narrow fibromintosis tumors, like because you have a

668
00:42:11.639 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 3>lot of nerves in your mouth, right and so following

669
00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:19.480
<v Speaker 3>those pathways and whatever, it would be very difficult to eat,

670
00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:24.639
<v Speaker 3>to swallow any of that stuff because nerves run literally

671
00:42:24.679 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 3>all through your body.

672
00:42:26.519 --> 00:42:29.280
<v Speaker 4>Well, And I liked this photo because somebody recolorized it,

673
00:42:29.400 --> 00:42:31.480
<v Speaker 4>and I think it adds a little bit more humanity

674
00:42:31.679 --> 00:42:36.400
<v Speaker 4>to how he looked. I I did wonder one thing,

675
00:42:36.519 --> 00:42:39.719
<v Speaker 4>and maybe that's because I have a dark mind. If

676
00:42:39.800 --> 00:42:44.800
<v Speaker 4>somebody killed him in the hospital, because asphyxia is weird,

677
00:42:44.960 --> 00:42:48.679
<v Speaker 4>like they did say his neck was like contorted as well,

678
00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:52.719
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, I just I get it, Like I

679
00:42:52.800 --> 00:42:55.960
<v Speaker 4>don't think anybody should do that, but it might have

680
00:42:56.039 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 4>been a humanity thing. He may have asked them to

681
00:43:00.320 --> 00:43:04.159
<v Speaker 4>kill him, is what I'm saying, because he was really depressed.

682
00:43:04.239 --> 00:43:06.719
<v Speaker 4>And I will say this for the story that I read.

683
00:43:07.440 --> 00:43:10.400
<v Speaker 4>The only memories he had of women were from books

684
00:43:10.760 --> 00:43:14.079
<v Speaker 4>he could read. He was smart from his mother's very

685
00:43:14.199 --> 00:43:17.639
<v Speaker 4>minuscule memories. And the doctor paid a woman who was

686
00:43:17.679 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 4>a widow to come in and just talk to him

687
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:23.559
<v Speaker 4>and visit with him, and he bawled his head off

688
00:43:24.440 --> 00:43:27.719
<v Speaker 4>because people had shamed him and treated him so terribly.

689
00:43:28.199 --> 00:43:31.320
<v Speaker 4>This case is one where I have to say, it's

690
00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:34.079
<v Speaker 4>actually sad he couldn't be in a freak show because

691
00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:36.960
<v Speaker 4>when he was, he had community and money and he

692
00:43:37.199 --> 00:43:39.639
<v Speaker 4>was able to have a life, whereas when he couldn't,

693
00:43:39.719 --> 00:43:41.360
<v Speaker 4>he was homeless and nobody cared.

694
00:43:41.800 --> 00:43:44.400
<v Speaker 2>And people say, oh, that's so sad, but like nobody's

695
00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:45.320
<v Speaker 2>taking care of these people.

696
00:43:45.400 --> 00:43:49.119
<v Speaker 4>Yes, it's so sad, but like nobody cared, so, you know,

697
00:43:49.239 --> 00:43:51.639
<v Speaker 4>Thank heavens, he had a doctor that did put him

698
00:43:51.719 --> 00:43:54.239
<v Speaker 4>in the attic of the hospital to live until he died.

699
00:43:54.559 --> 00:43:57.159
<v Speaker 3>And I think that's kind of par for the course

700
00:43:57.280 --> 00:44:01.599
<v Speaker 3>with a lot of these like side performers or whatnot,

701
00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:06.920
<v Speaker 3>that their life or family, I guess you could say,

702
00:44:07.119 --> 00:44:11.679
<v Speaker 3>was while they were performing, you know, being whether it

703
00:44:11.800 --> 00:44:16.280
<v Speaker 3>was exploitative or not. Is beside the point because when

704
00:44:16.320 --> 00:44:19.719
<v Speaker 3>they were done with that, then they were done.

705
00:44:19.960 --> 00:44:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like who's going to take care of them?

706
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:25.280
<v Speaker 4>And that's where I find it really sad, because I'm like, Okay,

707
00:44:25.480 --> 00:44:29.280
<v Speaker 4>everybody's all gung ho for like let's you know, not

708
00:44:29.519 --> 00:44:32.280
<v Speaker 4>do that, but then what are you doing to them?

709
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.440
<v Speaker 4>So at least there, you know, he even was taking

710
00:44:36.519 --> 00:44:40.000
<v Speaker 4>he was fed, like he literally didn't have people to

711
00:44:40.119 --> 00:44:43.599
<v Speaker 4>feed and help him like that. That was a major level.

712
00:44:43.719 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 4>And to Janet's point, those severe tumors, they smelled, they

713
00:44:47.960 --> 00:44:52.559
<v Speaker 4>were infected, they the skin never coming up like I'm

714
00:44:52.639 --> 00:44:54.480
<v Speaker 4>sure they didn't know the things we know now and

715
00:44:55.239 --> 00:44:56.880
<v Speaker 4>hygiene and all the things.

716
00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:01.079
<v Speaker 2>So I'm grateful that his doctor was a good, good

717
00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:03.119
<v Speaker 2>enough guy to you know, step in.

718
00:45:03.280 --> 00:45:05.440
<v Speaker 3>And to that point, it would be very hard to

719
00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:12.159
<v Speaker 3>even wash around a lot of those areas, crevice creases, whatever,

720
00:45:12.559 --> 00:45:16.280
<v Speaker 3>and it would be really difficult, I would think, to

721
00:45:16.519 --> 00:45:21.320
<v Speaker 3>sit infection in a bathtub, And so you're relying on

722
00:45:21.519 --> 00:45:23.039
<v Speaker 3>someone to sponge bathe, you.

723
00:45:24.800 --> 00:45:28.519
<v Speaker 5>Probably not going to be the cleanest, no, And they

724
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 5>didn't know the things or have the things that we

725
00:45:31.880 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 5>of course have today, like just simple basic things like

726
00:45:34.880 --> 00:45:37.079
<v Speaker 5>nice statin or powders or whatever.

727
00:45:37.320 --> 00:45:41.159
<v Speaker 2>But this one is on the borderline of the two.

728
00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:42.800
<v Speaker 4>And that's why I wanted to put this one in

729
00:45:43.000 --> 00:45:46.679
<v Speaker 4>because as severe as it is, it is not elephant

730
00:45:46.719 --> 00:45:49.519
<v Speaker 4>man severe. So I think they still kind of diagnose

731
00:45:49.559 --> 00:45:53.800
<v Speaker 4>this as a severe enough one, which is so sad.

732
00:45:54.159 --> 00:45:57.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, because he doesn't have the facial you know,

733
00:45:57.679 --> 00:45:59.719
<v Speaker 4>the face stuff going on, like where it's the.

734
00:45:59.719 --> 00:46:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Big, huge tumors.

735
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:04.039
<v Speaker 4>Right, it's not the drooping but if you notice, like

736
00:46:04.119 --> 00:46:05.840
<v Speaker 4>a lot of times it will go down the spinal

737
00:46:05.920 --> 00:46:08.400
<v Speaker 4>cord and different things or be over like organs, and.

738
00:46:08.880 --> 00:46:12.880
<v Speaker 2>They're so hard. These are not like little squishy things.

739
00:46:12.920 --> 00:46:13.880
<v Speaker 2>These these hurt.

740
00:46:14.280 --> 00:46:15.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're solid.

741
00:46:17.159 --> 00:46:20.159
<v Speaker 4>So you know, this one I always found just so

742
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.800
<v Speaker 4>horribly sad. I mean, if you can imagine when we

743
00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:27.840
<v Speaker 4>got the diagnosis, we completely lost our minds. But at

744
00:46:27.880 --> 00:46:31.679
<v Speaker 4>this point, like I said, I think a they've misdiagnosed.

745
00:46:31.039 --> 00:46:34.719
<v Speaker 2>It, even if not be she was lucky so just

746
00:46:34.840 --> 00:46:37.360
<v Speaker 2>has the little birthmarks and that's all we've had to

747
00:46:37.440 --> 00:46:37.719
<v Speaker 2>deal with.

748
00:46:37.960 --> 00:46:42.199
<v Speaker 4>But it was terrifying. It's terrifying for a good seven years,

749
00:46:42.360 --> 00:46:44.960
<v Speaker 4>like you just are waiting for things to pop up.

750
00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.119
<v Speaker 4>And yeah, it was scary and she also had a

751
00:46:48.159 --> 00:46:49.840
<v Speaker 4>severe heart issue with that.

752
00:46:50.119 --> 00:46:54.400
<v Speaker 2>And she was criteria for surgery.

753
00:46:55.159 --> 00:46:57.880
<v Speaker 4>Hers was on the pulmonary side, and the atrium is

754
00:46:57.960 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 4>much more intensive and usually has to be fixed. And

755
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.159
<v Speaker 4>so she had a pulmonary valve defect that was, like

756
00:47:05.280 --> 00:47:08.639
<v Speaker 4>I said, criteria to fix. But they waited because they said,

757
00:47:08.679 --> 00:47:11.400
<v Speaker 4>sometimes these people are short of stature. That's one of

758
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:14.239
<v Speaker 4>the things with n F one is usually they're shorter.

759
00:47:14.599 --> 00:47:17.639
<v Speaker 2>And he said, it might, it might catch up, and

760
00:47:17.760 --> 00:47:20.400
<v Speaker 2>we might she'll always have it, but it might get better, right,

761
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:25.440
<v Speaker 2>a little better. Well, when she was about eight, we

762
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:28.079
<v Speaker 2>went in and he said, you don't even have to

763
00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:30.679
<v Speaker 2>come back yearly anymore. It closed and we don't know

764
00:47:30.800 --> 00:47:39.320
<v Speaker 2>how it's gone. So I know how miracles, yes, ma'am, Yes, God,

765
00:47:39.519 --> 00:47:43.679
<v Speaker 2>God definitely works, and so we definitely have done much

766
00:47:43.800 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>praying for her.

767
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:49.559
<v Speaker 4>And her name is Faith and so you know, pretty

768
00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:52.400
<v Speaker 4>special kid all the way around for sure. And so

769
00:47:53.519 --> 00:47:55.960
<v Speaker 4>and for these people, you know a lot of times

770
00:47:56.280 --> 00:48:02.760
<v Speaker 4>also the bad like the bad masses come later, so.

771
00:48:02.960 --> 00:48:07.199
<v Speaker 2>They usually are able to get married and like all that.

772
00:48:07.679 --> 00:48:10.000
<v Speaker 4>Before it gets severe, like they might have one or

773
00:48:10.039 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 4>two right, like a big like a couple of big ones.

774
00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:15.519
<v Speaker 4>Like I've seen most of the time, like right here,

775
00:48:15.960 --> 00:48:20.639
<v Speaker 4>all these people are like right here, it's really knows. Yeah,

776
00:48:20.719 --> 00:48:23.320
<v Speaker 4>when they're younger, it seems like, you know, just a

777
00:48:23.400 --> 00:48:24.960
<v Speaker 4>few spots. And I do have a lady that I

778
00:48:25.039 --> 00:48:27.639
<v Speaker 4>work with as well that has this, not to this level,

779
00:48:27.679 --> 00:48:30.960
<v Speaker 4>but it's like maybe a medium case. And she said

780
00:48:31.280 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 4>they got really bad with her pregnancies and then they

781
00:48:34.360 --> 00:48:37.559
<v Speaker 4>didn't go away. But she's probably about a little less

782
00:48:37.599 --> 00:48:39.440
<v Speaker 4>than this level. But she did say, you know, I

783
00:48:40.039 --> 00:48:42.119
<v Speaker 4>didn't even know I got married. I just thought I

784
00:48:42.199 --> 00:48:46.360
<v Speaker 4>had some moles, you know. So they are flush colored,

785
00:48:46.480 --> 00:48:47.960
<v Speaker 4>not usually dark or anything.

786
00:48:48.400 --> 00:48:52.039
<v Speaker 3>Well, and the picture that we're looking at right now

787
00:48:52.320 --> 00:48:56.760
<v Speaker 3>is an Endian lady. And you know when I said earlier,

788
00:48:56.920 --> 00:48:59.719
<v Speaker 3>they hang like clusters and a lot of times in

789
00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:03.679
<v Speaker 3>a lot out of places. Excuse me for saying this,

790
00:49:04.039 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 3>but I'm amongst I'm amongst friends right now. She has

791
00:49:09.280 --> 00:49:10.039
<v Speaker 3>an area.

792
00:49:11.159 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>She has a ball sack, Yeah she does.

793
00:49:14.480 --> 00:49:18.320
<v Speaker 3>She literally has balls hanging from her neck.

794
00:49:20.079 --> 00:49:24.239
<v Speaker 4>It almost looks like a lung to look at it, like,

795
00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:29.280
<v Speaker 4>but whatever, And I can't imagine this one because they

796
00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:30.880
<v Speaker 4>can't take them off like that.

797
00:49:31.360 --> 00:49:35.800
<v Speaker 3>That is, yeah, that one, especially that one and that's

798
00:49:35.920 --> 00:49:39.840
<v Speaker 3>probably why it's darker because that has such a capillary flow,

799
00:49:39.960 --> 00:49:42.239
<v Speaker 3>because that's really your thyroid.

800
00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.800
<v Speaker 4>So you would think that they would get to a

801
00:49:44.880 --> 00:49:49.440
<v Speaker 4>point where they could do something, you know, But I mean,

802
00:49:49.519 --> 00:49:50.599
<v Speaker 4>I guess we're not there yet.

803
00:49:51.000 --> 00:49:51.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

804
00:49:51.559 --> 00:49:54.400
<v Speaker 4>Okay, Janet, this is the one that you didn't prepare

805
00:49:54.480 --> 00:49:58.400
<v Speaker 4>me for, and I have to we're already talking about

806
00:49:58.559 --> 00:49:59.119
<v Speaker 4>ball sacks.

807
00:49:59.159 --> 00:50:05.519
<v Speaker 2>Guys. Prepare yourself, well, prepare for the other part. This one, Janet,

808
00:50:06.480 --> 00:50:09.159
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know. I didn't even know this could happen.

809
00:50:09.320 --> 00:50:15.920
<v Speaker 2>What the hell? I mean, I'm sure he's horny. How

810
00:50:15.960 --> 00:50:18.400
<v Speaker 2>do you let this get so big? What is going

811
00:50:18.480 --> 00:50:19.960
<v Speaker 2>on with these people with horns?

812
00:50:20.960 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 3>I know, and I we had we have had a

813
00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:27.239
<v Speaker 3>lot of a lot of people.

814
00:50:28.800 --> 00:50:30.119
<v Speaker 2>Do this or have this.

815
00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:34.880
<v Speaker 3>But that's the thing that's like a craze now, is

816
00:50:35.000 --> 00:50:40.920
<v Speaker 3>having implants done to mimic these. So this, ladies and gentlemen,

817
00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:48.800
<v Speaker 3>is a cutaneous horn. Cutaneous horns are a keratin build

818
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:54.360
<v Speaker 3>up under your skin, also closely linked to people that

819
00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:59.119
<v Speaker 3>have actinic caratosis, which is his skin condition warts or

820
00:50:59.320 --> 00:51:07.599
<v Speaker 3>squamous carcinomas. But they make very hard cone like gross

821
00:51:07.960 --> 00:51:12.599
<v Speaker 3>come out of your skin, and so they do look

822
00:51:12.880 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 3>like horns. That's why they can hurt a little hard.

823
00:51:17.320 --> 00:51:21.599
<v Speaker 3>And there are people It's almost like if you look

824
00:51:21.679 --> 00:51:24.920
<v Speaker 3>at it on a person, it looks like little tusks.

825
00:51:26.119 --> 00:51:30.039
<v Speaker 3>You're saying, like a wild boar or something. Yes, and

826
00:51:30.159 --> 00:51:34.159
<v Speaker 3>they do discolor and change very looks.

827
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Like a hoof. Yes, it looks like the texture of

828
00:51:38.159 --> 00:51:38.519
<v Speaker 2>a hoof.

829
00:51:39.000 --> 00:51:39.199
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

830
00:51:39.960 --> 00:51:42.360
<v Speaker 2>I didn't even know this was a real thing.

831
00:51:42.559 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 4>And first of all, look when they're mentioning HPV, you

832
00:51:46.480 --> 00:51:47.800
<v Speaker 4>go fuck around and find out.

833
00:51:47.920 --> 00:51:50.360
<v Speaker 2>Look, don't be sticking your head anywhere. All these people

834
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:53.840
<v Speaker 2>got them on their heads. I don't know, But why

835
00:51:53.880 --> 00:51:55.880
<v Speaker 2>would you take it off when it's little? These are

836
00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:57.599
<v Speaker 2>treatable well, And that.

837
00:51:57.840 --> 00:52:01.119
<v Speaker 3>Is the thing. And the picture that you showed. Maybe

838
00:52:01.199 --> 00:52:05.559
<v Speaker 3>theyse were in areas where they couldn't we we removed them.

839
00:52:06.199 --> 00:52:10.400
<v Speaker 3>But I never saw anybody that had any to this extent.

840
00:52:10.559 --> 00:52:13.679
<v Speaker 3>They were always smaller, but we removed a lot of those.

841
00:52:14.800 --> 00:52:17.760
<v Speaker 2>Was disgusting. This looks like of a.

842
00:52:17.880 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 3>JJ with the horn with the curly dookie stick.

843
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:29.480
<v Speaker 2>Oh girls, you guys, yeah, oh my gosh. But at

844
00:52:29.519 --> 00:52:33.159
<v Speaker 2>this level. Okay, dude, what are you doing? Go in?

845
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:39.360
<v Speaker 3>Why and see like this guy's, it doesn't come straight

846
00:52:39.440 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 3>out like a like a pyramid or a horn like his,

847
00:52:44.440 --> 00:52:48.039
<v Speaker 3>almost as ripples in it. And I've seen some of

848
00:52:48.079 --> 00:52:53.159
<v Speaker 3>those too. Now I will say that removing them on

849
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:57.760
<v Speaker 3>the head or the face, that's that was a creepy picture.

850
00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:58.519
<v Speaker 2>We'll get there.

851
00:53:00.000 --> 00:53:05.159
<v Speaker 3>But the head and the face are uber vascular again

852
00:53:05.320 --> 00:53:09.119
<v Speaker 3>because of all the nerves. And so if you're going

853
00:53:09.320 --> 00:53:13.239
<v Speaker 3>to remove something like hers, because it's so large and

854
00:53:13.320 --> 00:53:18.159
<v Speaker 3>it's literally almost the entire top of her head, they

855
00:53:18.239 --> 00:53:21.639
<v Speaker 3>would need to do that in a hospital because of

856
00:53:21.800 --> 00:53:23.800
<v Speaker 3>the blood loss that would couse in that.

857
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.199
<v Speaker 2>She could shave this down and make this a bad

858
00:53:27.440 --> 00:53:31.159
<v Speaker 2>ass bun like, get you some hair extensions, you can

859
00:53:32.559 --> 00:53:35.199
<v Speaker 2>shave it, shape it, you know, if she can't get

860
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:38.000
<v Speaker 2>it off, you know, she's one hundred and seven, this lady.

861
00:53:39.480 --> 00:53:42.119
<v Speaker 2>And so but this one my husband's.

862
00:53:44.199 --> 00:53:47.639
<v Speaker 4>My husband said, and I said yes, and he goes,

863
00:53:47.719 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 4>you know, somebody probably tried that, and I said, and

864
00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:52.960
<v Speaker 4>they probably got words all up in that thing, because.

865
00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:59.559
<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's funny because they called them horned man,

866
00:54:00.119 --> 00:54:04.920
<v Speaker 3>devil man, or unicorn man in the side shows. And

867
00:54:05.079 --> 00:54:08.960
<v Speaker 3>so this guy literally has one sticking out the top

868
00:54:09.039 --> 00:54:15.559
<v Speaker 3>of his head like a unic soho would the possibility

869
00:54:15.679 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 3>of seeing something like this in the er where somebody

870
00:54:20.400 --> 00:54:25.920
<v Speaker 3>did try that and then they injured their internal parts

871
00:54:26.159 --> 00:54:26.440
<v Speaker 3>from it?

872
00:54:26.719 --> 00:54:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, well the HPV from it alone, Like if that

873
00:54:32.000 --> 00:54:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is caused from HPV, because it can be, and then

874
00:54:35.079 --> 00:54:39.360
<v Speaker 2>you do that with a warm, wet climate, you're gonna

875
00:54:39.400 --> 00:54:42.239
<v Speaker 2>get HPV. I don't know if you guys have ever seen.

876
00:54:43.119 --> 00:54:47.159
<v Speaker 2>We should do a whole series on STDs next too.

877
00:54:47.400 --> 00:54:50.079
<v Speaker 4>Oh, it would be fabulous because I do this. I

878
00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.519
<v Speaker 4>know that one well because when my kids are like ten,

879
00:54:52.599 --> 00:54:53.199
<v Speaker 4>I go, you.

880
00:54:53.239 --> 00:54:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Know what, this could happen to your vagina because I'm.

881
00:54:56.920 --> 00:54:59.159
<v Speaker 4>Like, I Am not going to fuck around and let

882
00:54:59.199 --> 00:55:03.280
<v Speaker 4>my kids just go out there willy nilly throwing the

883
00:55:03.360 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 4>box to anybody or throwing the other thing like I

884
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:09.000
<v Speaker 4>showed my kids.

885
00:55:09.000 --> 00:55:10.599
<v Speaker 3>Throwing a twenty down the hallway.

886
00:55:10.920 --> 00:55:13.079
<v Speaker 4>Yep, yep, We're not doing that in my house. If

887
00:55:13.119 --> 00:55:16.880
<v Speaker 4>you do, you can, but you know that weird shit happens.

888
00:55:16.960 --> 00:55:18.960
<v Speaker 4>And you know what, a lot of my kids have

889
00:55:19.039 --> 00:55:24.360
<v Speaker 4>made it to eighteen without, you know, so just saying something.

890
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.920
<v Speaker 3>We always had those conversations too, and a lot of

891
00:55:27.960 --> 00:55:30.719
<v Speaker 3>people were like, oh, you shouldn't talk about things like that,

892
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's too young, And I'm like, no, no, no.

893
00:55:34.480 --> 00:55:38.199
<v Speaker 3>Being the profession that I am, we literally would see

894
00:55:38.320 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 3>children as young as nine that were sexually active.

895
00:55:41.840 --> 00:55:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Yep, I'm not whoa, this is it. This is life,

896
00:55:46.119 --> 00:55:48.079
<v Speaker 2>this is what a sex is a grown up thing.

897
00:55:48.559 --> 00:55:50.360
<v Speaker 4>And if you're going to do a grown up thing,

898
00:55:50.880 --> 00:55:53.000
<v Speaker 4>then you need to know the consequences.

899
00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:54.599
<v Speaker 2>And it isn't just pregnancy.

900
00:55:54.719 --> 00:55:58.119
<v Speaker 4>And I used to say, you know, pregnancy is nine

901
00:55:58.159 --> 00:56:02.559
<v Speaker 4>months and eighteen years, you know, But herpes is the

902
00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:03.920
<v Speaker 4>gift that keeps on giving forever.

903
00:56:04.280 --> 00:56:11.880
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, and you got herpes, ladies and gentlemen also

904
00:56:12.239 --> 00:56:15.440
<v Speaker 3>tends to hang in clusters like grapes.

905
00:56:15.960 --> 00:56:19.079
<v Speaker 4>Just so you know, we'll we'll get you guys all

906
00:56:19.159 --> 00:56:21.280
<v Speaker 4>caught up on the nastiest of nasty talk about a

907
00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:23.480
<v Speaker 4>graphic image show we'll have to put on.

908
00:56:25.960 --> 00:56:27.239
<v Speaker 3>We're gonna scare people.

909
00:56:28.639 --> 00:56:30.800
<v Speaker 4>Let me let us know in the comments, do me

910
00:56:30.880 --> 00:56:33.239
<v Speaker 4>a favor and let me janet no, if you guys

911
00:56:33.239 --> 00:56:35.199
<v Speaker 4>are up for that, or if that's too far, if

912
00:56:35.239 --> 00:56:37.639
<v Speaker 4>we're going too far in our medical minds because we're

913
00:56:37.679 --> 00:56:38.559
<v Speaker 4>too sensitized.

914
00:56:38.880 --> 00:56:41.719
<v Speaker 3>I know I was gonna say, plus both of us

915
00:56:41.840 --> 00:56:44.760
<v Speaker 3>are like into like creepy stuff.

916
00:56:44.880 --> 00:56:47.840
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, this one had to be the most disturbing

917
00:56:48.320 --> 00:56:53.199
<v Speaker 2>for me personally. Uh oh, and the next one.

918
00:56:54.639 --> 00:56:58.960
<v Speaker 4>I forgot about. I remember this picture from from way back.

919
00:56:59.239 --> 00:57:04.440
<v Speaker 4>This is the skin and the alligator skin babies and stuff.

920
00:57:06.000 --> 00:57:09.599
<v Speaker 4>But I remember this picture, this specific photo from nursing school,

921
00:57:09.880 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 4>and I because I remember thinking this is not real.

922
00:57:13.239 --> 00:57:15.000
<v Speaker 2>That's it, this can't happen.

923
00:57:15.199 --> 00:57:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this one is very strange and very creepy. Hold

924
00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:20.719
<v Speaker 3>on a minute.

925
00:57:21.400 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 4>When they're born, they look like this, and then it

926
00:57:26.679 --> 00:57:28.639
<v Speaker 4>can go a lot. Well not all of them, I

927
00:57:28.760 --> 00:57:29.440
<v Speaker 4>mean well.

928
00:57:29.800 --> 00:57:33.519
<v Speaker 3>For people that are just listing and not watching. The

929
00:57:34.239 --> 00:57:40.480
<v Speaker 3>baby is white as can be and then has red

930
00:57:42.639 --> 00:57:46.760
<v Speaker 3>the lips and eyes, red lips, red eyes, and red

931
00:57:48.159 --> 00:57:50.960
<v Speaker 3>parts kind of like design all over the body.

932
00:57:51.760 --> 00:57:55.719
<v Speaker 4>I think it's best described as an an s like

933
00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.760
<v Speaker 4>what the BDSM mask, where the leather is okay, that's.

934
00:58:00.679 --> 00:58:05.519
<v Speaker 2>All why, and then the eyeballs and the mouth comes through.

935
00:58:05.639 --> 00:58:09.920
<v Speaker 2>It's terrifying. I remember looking this up and thinking that

936
00:58:10.119 --> 00:58:10.639
<v Speaker 2>is not real.

937
00:58:12.079 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, I was gonna say, there's another condition that's almost

938
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:20.480
<v Speaker 3>exactly like this. I gotta find it, because some of

939
00:58:20.559 --> 00:58:24.000
<v Speaker 3>these there's just so like some of these I've never

940
00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:26.559
<v Speaker 3>I haven't seen like in person.

941
00:58:29.159 --> 00:58:30.320
<v Speaker 2>And I have never seen this.

942
00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 4>I mean, okay, I've seen Stevens Johnson syndrome go this badly.

943
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 4>I will say that that is not a genetic condition.

944
00:58:41.159 --> 00:58:43.920
<v Speaker 4>I actually had that happen to me, which is terrifying.

945
00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:47.039
<v Speaker 4>I've never been allergic to antibiotics. But after my whole

946
00:58:47.119 --> 00:58:50.920
<v Speaker 4>pickline blah blah blah boloney osteomyelitis in my spine, I

947
00:58:51.079 --> 00:58:55.159
<v Speaker 4>developed an allergy and I did get it, and I

948
00:58:55.239 --> 00:58:57.119
<v Speaker 4>did an EpiPen and all the things, and it stopped.

949
00:58:57.159 --> 00:58:59.760
<v Speaker 2>Think heavens, because your skin will pill off just like this.

950
00:59:01.000 --> 00:59:03.440
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, but that's not the case.

951
00:59:03.679 --> 00:59:08.199
<v Speaker 3>I wish people, Uh, for people who are just listing,

952
00:59:08.360 --> 00:59:12.280
<v Speaker 3>you really need to go. You gotta check out the

953
00:59:12.440 --> 00:59:17.599
<v Speaker 3>video just to watch like the pictures because trying to

954
00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:20.320
<v Speaker 3>describe them, yeah.

955
00:59:20.639 --> 00:59:25.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's impossible. It's definitely a picture's worth a thousand

956
00:59:25.039 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 4>words on this one. And it's sad because he's a

957
00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:30.480
<v Speaker 4>real people and and we know that this is him

958
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:34.559
<v Speaker 4>grown up, the same kid, and so he was able

959
00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:36.199
<v Speaker 4>to live, which a lot of them don't.

960
00:59:37.239 --> 00:59:41.679
<v Speaker 2>And so yeah, uh, there's also you know where it

961
00:59:41.760 --> 00:59:44.840
<v Speaker 2>gets to be like this. This is before the shedding, right,

962
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.360
<v Speaker 2>this is the alligator skin, our alligator boys and girls.

963
00:59:51.039 --> 00:59:55.840
<v Speaker 2>And then when that skin sheds off much like a snake, reptilian, whatever,

964
00:59:56.280 --> 01:00:00.679
<v Speaker 2>then they're left with that bear skin. And he was

965
01:00:00.719 --> 01:00:02.920
<v Speaker 2>born without skin, which is why it looks so crazy.

966
01:00:03.320 --> 01:00:09.559
<v Speaker 3>So this must be the ichtheosis then, so it's thick, dry,

967
01:00:09.719 --> 01:00:14.719
<v Speaker 3>scaly skinned, resembling fish scales could also be different. There's

968
01:00:15.039 --> 01:00:21.199
<v Speaker 3>multiple different variations of this, and so they have vulgaris harlequin,

969
01:00:21.840 --> 01:00:24.960
<v Speaker 3>and several other things. And so either.

970
01:00:26.880 --> 01:00:33.320
<v Speaker 2>Harlequin the baby or fish scales. The harlequin was that

971
01:00:33.480 --> 01:00:36.280
<v Speaker 2>little baby that looks so scary. If anybody wants to

972
01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.400
<v Speaker 2>look it up, it that was the harlequin baby.

973
01:00:39.320 --> 01:00:46.400
<v Speaker 3>So harlequin ichthiosis or anybody that's interested in that. And so, yeah,

974
01:00:46.719 --> 01:00:50.719
<v Speaker 3>like this picture doesn't bother me as much as the

975
01:00:51.320 --> 01:00:56.480
<v Speaker 3>other one did. The other way. He was literally like terrifying.

976
01:00:56.800 --> 01:00:59.599
<v Speaker 3>I probably would not know.

977
01:00:59.719 --> 01:01:00.239
<v Speaker 1>What to do.

978
01:01:01.599 --> 01:01:05.519
<v Speaker 3>Even I would have, I would have been like, what

979
01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:08.000
<v Speaker 3>the hell? That looks like something out of a horror movie?

980
01:01:08.400 --> 01:01:11.760
<v Speaker 2>Yes, because I mean what would you do if you

981
01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:14.960
<v Speaker 2>really were the nurse and didn't know like that? You

982
01:01:15.039 --> 01:01:17.280
<v Speaker 2>know that that's a lot.

983
01:01:17.400 --> 01:01:20.719
<v Speaker 4>Even US nurses are taken aback sometimes and not in

984
01:01:20.800 --> 01:01:23.960
<v Speaker 4>a mean way or anything. It's just a surprising.

985
01:01:23.920 --> 01:01:28.320
<v Speaker 3>Hundred So that the harlequin, that one that you said

986
01:01:28.679 --> 01:01:34.480
<v Speaker 3>is it says it's extremely debilitating and can be fatal

987
01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 3>in infancy or in the past it was like always fatal.

988
01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sure not anymore because advancement. But i will say

989
01:01:45.920 --> 01:01:49.679
<v Speaker 3>these are things that I, honest to God, don't see

990
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:50.599
<v Speaker 3>that much anymore.

991
01:01:50.960 --> 01:01:53.360
<v Speaker 4>No, no, I have you know what they said that

992
01:01:53.519 --> 01:01:58.840
<v Speaker 4>this was really prevalent in Muslim culture, and there was

993
01:01:58.920 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 4>one other and it's prise me.

994
01:02:00.519 --> 01:02:03.000
<v Speaker 2>It was like a Middle Eastern type thing. And I'm like, well,

995
01:02:03.119 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, they still marry their sisters there, And I'm

996
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:06.920
<v Speaker 2>not I'm not saying they all do, but I am

997
01:02:07.000 --> 01:02:07.599
<v Speaker 2>saying there is.

998
01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:12.360
<v Speaker 3>Which which would make sense because a lot of these

999
01:02:12.480 --> 01:02:14.639
<v Speaker 3>are from genetic mutations.

1000
01:02:16.480 --> 01:02:19.800
<v Speaker 4>And I'm not dissing on anybody that's of a certain race.

1001
01:02:19.840 --> 01:02:24.800
<v Speaker 4>I'm just saying, don't marry everybody. Yeah, yeah, don't do it.

1002
01:02:25.320 --> 01:02:27.280
<v Speaker 4>It's a bad plan. I don't care if they tell

1003
01:02:27.320 --> 01:02:28.800
<v Speaker 4>you you're from a certain lineage.

1004
01:02:29.039 --> 01:02:31.480
<v Speaker 3>I know I don't cute, but no, you can't marry me.

1005
01:02:32.880 --> 01:02:35.239
<v Speaker 4>Nope, don't marry your sisters and brothers and aunts and

1006
01:02:35.360 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 4>uncles and stuff. Space it out a bit, space it out.

1007
01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:41.800
<v Speaker 4>But this baby also has it. Not quite I'm not

1008
01:02:41.960 --> 01:02:46.119
<v Speaker 4>quite as bad. I mean it's bad, but like there's worse,

1009
01:02:46.480 --> 01:02:50.159
<v Speaker 4>you know. This one I found fascinating because only on

1010
01:02:50.320 --> 01:02:51.119
<v Speaker 4>half of the body.

1011
01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:57.400
<v Speaker 2>How crazy is that? I thought that one was quite interesting.

1012
01:02:58.400 --> 01:03:01.639
<v Speaker 3>So this may be the one, and that's called vulgaris

1013
01:03:03.639 --> 01:03:07.079
<v Speaker 3>And of course even under that there's multiple different things too.

1014
01:03:07.199 --> 01:03:12.239
<v Speaker 3>But it says the alligator type skin that can be

1015
01:03:13.280 --> 01:03:14.480
<v Speaker 3>to one side of the body.

1016
01:03:15.239 --> 01:03:17.880
<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm, all right, that makes more sense. That would

1017
01:03:17.920 --> 01:03:21.719
<v Speaker 4>be so strange to have, Like it's a clear demarcation

1018
01:03:21.920 --> 01:03:22.599
<v Speaker 4>for people.

1019
01:03:22.480 --> 01:03:23.199
<v Speaker 2>That can't see it.

1020
01:03:23.800 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 4>It's literally like somebody drew a line down half of

1021
01:03:27.559 --> 01:03:29.599
<v Speaker 4>the body and the rest is fine.

1022
01:03:29.920 --> 01:03:34.000
<v Speaker 3>So well, especially if if this is oh some of

1023
01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:39.599
<v Speaker 3>those are are, especially if that runs like neural pathways

1024
01:03:39.679 --> 01:03:40.119
<v Speaker 3>as well.

1025
01:03:41.000 --> 01:03:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I don't know if it did. I can't remember

1026
01:03:43.599 --> 01:03:44.119
<v Speaker 2>on that one.

1027
01:03:44.800 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 3>We'll have to That kind of looks like, hold on,

1028
01:03:54.159 --> 01:03:56.199
<v Speaker 3>so what was it? I said it a while ago,

1029
01:03:56.320 --> 01:04:00.239
<v Speaker 3>And it follows like the embryonic division line and so

1030
01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:04.039
<v Speaker 3>cellular lying straight down the back of the body.

1031
01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:11.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these ones were wild.

1032
01:04:11.559 --> 01:04:12.840
<v Speaker 3>Some kind of nervous thing.

1033
01:04:14.159 --> 01:04:17.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, we knee it painful.

1034
01:04:17.320 --> 01:04:19.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna look if it's painful, because I know the

1035
01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:23.280
<v Speaker 4>next one is, and I just I'm not sure about

1036
01:04:23.320 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 4>this particular one.

1037
01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:28.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh it says alligators do feel paint. That's not what

1038
01:04:28.159 --> 01:04:34.079
<v Speaker 2>I want. I know that, Like I didn't think they

1039
01:04:34.159 --> 01:04:41.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't have. Yeah, it says, oh my gosh, whatever. So yes,

1040
01:04:42.000 --> 01:04:44.239
<v Speaker 2>it says it is painful.

1041
01:04:44.719 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 4>So if it's you know, if it's big, if it's

1042
01:04:48.639 --> 01:04:51.840
<v Speaker 4>a big area, it can cause pain because of the

1043
01:04:51.880 --> 01:04:56.039
<v Speaker 4>cracked in flame skin. So I don't know if there's

1044
01:04:56.079 --> 01:04:59.360
<v Speaker 4>even anything other than creams that can help this, because

1045
01:04:59.800 --> 01:05:02.440
<v Speaker 4>they don't sweat a lot, and they get infections a lot,

1046
01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:07.000
<v Speaker 4>and so that's why they oftentimes die. And the treatments

1047
01:05:07.039 --> 01:05:12.599
<v Speaker 4>are very minimal, just oral retinoids and moisturizers, and that sucks,

1048
01:05:12.880 --> 01:05:15.159
<v Speaker 4>like I can't imagine.

1049
01:05:15.159 --> 01:05:17.159
<v Speaker 2>And this next one is the butterfly skin.

1050
01:05:17.360 --> 01:05:19.840
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know that anybody would have been able

1051
01:05:19.920 --> 01:05:22.519
<v Speaker 4>to travel in the circus with this except very minimally,

1052
01:05:22.639 --> 01:05:27.320
<v Speaker 4>because these guys, holy moly, uh, it would take very

1053
01:05:27.440 --> 01:05:33.320
<v Speaker 4>little to damage them, and so so literally just yeah,

1054
01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:34.639
<v Speaker 4>get damaged skin.

1055
01:05:34.519 --> 01:05:45.199
<v Speaker 3>Soare for Tidle's sake. This is also called epidermolysis belosa,

1056
01:05:45.360 --> 01:05:50.199
<v Speaker 3>which is the butterfly skin. It's extremely fragile skin that

1057
01:05:50.400 --> 01:05:56.840
<v Speaker 3>blisters and tears very easily. So when extremely seep pictures

1058
01:05:56.960 --> 01:06:03.400
<v Speaker 3>of these patients, they literally look like massive burn victims.

1059
01:06:04.599 --> 01:06:06.800
<v Speaker 2>Exactly my thought. I thought the same.

1060
01:06:06.880 --> 01:06:09.360
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad it doesn't seem to affect their faces badly,

1061
01:06:09.480 --> 01:06:12.679
<v Speaker 4>and the ones that I've seen so far, anyway, the

1062
01:06:12.880 --> 01:06:14.039
<v Speaker 4>chest seems to be just.

1063
01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:19.679
<v Speaker 2>Brutal, brutal, and I can't imagine. They said, it is

1064
01:06:19.840 --> 01:06:24.440
<v Speaker 2>like horrifically painful, and I can't. I just can't imagine,

1065
01:06:24.840 --> 01:06:26.400
<v Speaker 2>because like, your skin is.

1066
01:06:27.199 --> 01:06:31.039
<v Speaker 3>So fragile that it's very very raw. It's because the

1067
01:06:31.159 --> 01:06:35.280
<v Speaker 3>skin is thinner, your nerve endings are going to be

1068
01:06:35.760 --> 01:06:40.599
<v Speaker 3>closer to the surface of the skin. I will say

1069
01:06:40.760 --> 01:06:45.159
<v Speaker 3>that looking at a lot of these pictures, there was

1070
01:06:45.239 --> 01:06:47.920
<v Speaker 3>a story of a girl that I was following on

1071
01:06:48.239 --> 01:06:56.840
<v Speaker 3>Instagram that had a the act injury that ended up

1072
01:06:57.320 --> 01:07:03.159
<v Speaker 3>looking exactly like these pictures. Into her skin and burned, burned,

1073
01:07:03.199 --> 01:07:06.239
<v Speaker 3>her scalp, burned, all the home of her scalp. She's bald,

1074
01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:12.440
<v Speaker 3>now burned all down her back. Yeah, jeez.

1075
01:07:12.800 --> 01:07:15.800
<v Speaker 2>They did say they are trying to do new gene

1076
01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:19.719
<v Speaker 2>therapy gels for these people and say that's a promising

1077
01:07:19.840 --> 01:07:24.039
<v Speaker 2>new treatment that might help. And otherwise, this is not

1078
01:07:24.280 --> 01:07:26.880
<v Speaker 2>a very good disease to have because it's all just

1079
01:07:27.920 --> 01:07:31.719
<v Speaker 2>treating the symptoms, you know, like, oh, they get infections

1080
01:07:31.920 --> 01:07:35.519
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. I imagine you just live on antibiotics because

1081
01:07:36.239 --> 01:07:39.199
<v Speaker 2>it would be constant. This kid, he only has it

1082
01:07:39.440 --> 01:07:42.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. But I loved the pictures.

1083
01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:47.880
<v Speaker 4>This kid, I can't remember his name, but he his

1084
01:07:48.079 --> 01:07:51.920
<v Speaker 4>whole mission was to bring attention to this disease and

1085
01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:54.960
<v Speaker 4>he did, and he did die at seventeen. They usually

1086
01:07:55.039 --> 01:07:57.280
<v Speaker 4>die very early. But this picture right here of him

1087
01:07:57.280 --> 01:08:00.320
<v Speaker 4>and his mom just melted my heart. I thought, oh

1088
01:08:00.400 --> 01:08:06.000
<v Speaker 4>my gosh, what a great photo. You know, so I'm

1089
01:08:06.039 --> 01:08:07.760
<v Speaker 4>going to look up his name. Why we talk about him,

1090
01:08:07.760 --> 01:08:10.840
<v Speaker 4>because I just was like, Wow, way to go, kid,

1091
01:08:11.079 --> 01:08:11.920
<v Speaker 4>I think, yeah, And I.

1092
01:08:12.079 --> 01:08:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Can't imagine because burns in themselves are extremely painful, so

1093
01:08:20.600 --> 01:08:24.640
<v Speaker 3>especially when you have kids like this, and it's like

1094
01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:30.560
<v Speaker 3>a genetic mutation again that like affects collagen and keratin

1095
01:08:30.760 --> 01:08:34.359
<v Speaker 3>production and so that you need those things to harden

1096
01:08:35.079 --> 01:08:39.439
<v Speaker 3>your skin and to form the multiple layers of your

1097
01:08:40.399 --> 01:08:44.319
<v Speaker 3>skin in the first place. And so with those things missing,

1098
01:08:45.439 --> 01:08:50.319
<v Speaker 3>I can't imagine like how painful it would be to

1099
01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:56.960
<v Speaker 3>wear clothes, wear shoes, literally anything, because anything that rubs

1100
01:08:57.079 --> 01:08:59.840
<v Speaker 3>on that open burn type area.

1101
01:09:01.159 --> 01:09:05.319
<v Speaker 2>Hurt like hill. And then his name is Jonathan P.

1102
01:09:05.560 --> 01:09:06.199
<v Speaker 2>I t R. E.

1103
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Petree maybe, but he did die at seventeen, and his

1104
01:09:10.000 --> 01:09:13.920
<v Speaker 4>mom left a pretty big legacy on how he took

1105
01:09:13.960 --> 01:09:16.439
<v Speaker 4>all these pictures and put himself out there to bring

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01:09:16.520 --> 01:09:17.800
<v Speaker 4>attention to this disease.

1107
01:09:18.119 --> 01:09:19.920
<v Speaker 2>So way to go, Jonathan.

1108
01:09:20.239 --> 01:09:22.880
<v Speaker 3>I would assume that this would be very rare.

1109
01:09:23.920 --> 01:09:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, extremely is.

1110
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:28.520
<v Speaker 3>That something I've I've not seen that's one of them.

1111
01:09:28.680 --> 01:09:32.520
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, It's just wild. And this kid also has it.

1112
01:09:32.760 --> 01:09:34.760
<v Speaker 2>And I got to look up his name as well,

1113
01:09:35.359 --> 01:09:38.800
<v Speaker 2>but he actually did some pretty cool stuff and he

1114
01:09:39.399 --> 01:09:45.079
<v Speaker 2>is a weight training heavy lifting guy. Now he I mean,

1115
01:09:45.199 --> 01:09:49.000
<v Speaker 2>how cool is that? Like I thought that was pretty cool.

1116
01:09:49.039 --> 01:09:51.239
<v Speaker 2>He's like one of the world's best strong men. Blah

1117
01:09:51.279 --> 01:09:54.359
<v Speaker 2>blah blah. I was like, oh yeah, because you know

1118
01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:57.960
<v Speaker 2>he's gotta be in pain like all the time.

1119
01:09:58.159 --> 01:10:01.239
<v Speaker 3>That would be that would be awful, incredibly terrible.

1120
01:10:02.720 --> 01:10:05.760
<v Speaker 4>I can't imagine, and he he just probably learned to

1121
01:10:05.800 --> 01:10:08.760
<v Speaker 4>push through. I'm not really sure how he managed to

1122
01:10:08.840 --> 01:10:11.760
<v Speaker 4>do that. It's pretty amazing on his part, that's for sure.

1123
01:10:12.800 --> 01:10:16.960
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, he fights through it. His name is Dean Clifford,

1124
01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:20.840
<v Speaker 4>and he said literally his skin rips every time he moves.

1125
01:10:21.319 --> 01:10:25.079
<v Speaker 3>I was gonna say, especially doing weight lifting or whatever.

1126
01:10:25.199 --> 01:10:28.479
<v Speaker 3>I hope he doesn't like do dead lips or anything,

1127
01:10:28.600 --> 01:10:30.520
<v Speaker 3>because I can't even imagine.

1128
01:10:31.439 --> 01:10:34.920
<v Speaker 4>Looks like he's maybe had some skin grafting. I wonder

1129
01:10:35.000 --> 01:10:37.520
<v Speaker 4>if once they have skin grafting done, if they're able.

1130
01:10:37.640 --> 01:10:40.319
<v Speaker 4>I know this is going to be controversial, but I'm

1131
01:10:40.399 --> 01:10:42.760
<v Speaker 4>gonna say it because I'm sorry.

1132
01:10:43.000 --> 01:10:45.760
<v Speaker 2>If they're doing it, they well we say.

1133
01:10:45.640 --> 01:10:48.239
<v Speaker 3>What we think, and well what we say.

1134
01:10:48.800 --> 01:10:51.439
<v Speaker 4>Listen, they're throwing away all these little baby penises after

1135
01:10:51.479 --> 01:10:54.680
<v Speaker 4>they cut them, and one way or another, I don't

1136
01:10:54.680 --> 01:10:56.359
<v Speaker 4>want to get into a discussion about if we should

1137
01:10:56.399 --> 01:10:58.800
<v Speaker 4>or shouldn't cut them, but people do, and so I

1138
01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 4>want people to know. I'm not sure how they go

1139
01:11:02.079 --> 01:11:05.920
<v Speaker 4>about this, but one baby foreskin because the skin is

1140
01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:10.079
<v Speaker 4>so perfect, or skin burn victims and people like this

1141
01:11:10.560 --> 01:11:11.880
<v Speaker 4>can make twenty.

1142
01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Grafted sheets of skin.

1143
01:11:14.399 --> 01:11:17.760
<v Speaker 4>And look, I know we've said things back and forth

1144
01:11:17.800 --> 01:11:21.640
<v Speaker 4>about should we be doing genetic modification for certain things? Man,

1145
01:11:21.960 --> 01:11:25.079
<v Speaker 4>I don't think they should be doing full full like

1146
01:11:26.159 --> 01:11:27.000
<v Speaker 4>livers and stuff.

1147
01:11:27.039 --> 01:11:27.439
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1148
01:11:27.760 --> 01:11:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I don't know there's a level, right, But for the skin,

1149
01:11:30.760 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 4>I feel like that's a lot different where it would

1150
01:11:33.640 --> 01:11:37.840
<v Speaker 4>reject less. I'm just talking about safety, not ethic, but

1151
01:11:38.319 --> 01:11:40.119
<v Speaker 4>safety wise. Like I don't know if I would want

1152
01:11:40.159 --> 01:11:42.199
<v Speaker 4>a full heart that was created in a Petri dish.

1153
01:11:42.239 --> 01:11:45.199
<v Speaker 2>I don't know about that, right, or a three D

1154
01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:48.319
<v Speaker 2>printer right might make me a little anxious.

1155
01:11:48.399 --> 01:11:50.880
<v Speaker 4>But some skin, I have a skin graft, so I

1156
01:11:50.920 --> 01:11:53.760
<v Speaker 4>can speak on this. I can definitely say that, you know,

1157
01:11:54.079 --> 01:11:57.079
<v Speaker 4>you run out of areas. I was severely burned as

1158
01:11:57.119 --> 01:11:59.640
<v Speaker 4>a little kid. Yeah, and they had to take it.

1159
01:12:00.000 --> 01:12:01.720
<v Speaker 4>I mean I was only one, so there wasn't a

1160
01:12:01.760 --> 01:12:04.640
<v Speaker 4>whole lot of space. I mean off your butt, you know.

1161
01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:10.359
<v Speaker 2>But either way, I mean they're throwing them away.

1162
01:12:10.800 --> 01:12:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Well, and even because a lot of times when they

1163
01:12:15.279 --> 01:12:19.880
<v Speaker 3>do grafting or graft harvesting, they take it from like

1164
01:12:20.000 --> 01:12:28.600
<v Speaker 3>your thigh, but having that shaving done to do the

1165
01:12:28.720 --> 01:12:32.720
<v Speaker 3>graft in another area of your body is also excruciating

1166
01:12:32.840 --> 01:12:36.600
<v Speaker 3>and painful. Yes, it's not a walk in the park.

1167
01:12:36.680 --> 01:12:37.960
<v Speaker 3>It doesn't feel good.

1168
01:12:38.720 --> 01:12:41.920
<v Speaker 2>No, And so I think that it's important.

1169
01:12:42.199 --> 01:12:44.960
<v Speaker 4>Like, Okay, if they're gonna go ahead and use them

1170
01:12:45.039 --> 01:12:49.960
<v Speaker 4>for women and they're silly their face creams and.

1171
01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Whatnot, blah blah blah. Like I'm just saying, I'd rather

1172
01:12:54.800 --> 01:12:58.039
<v Speaker 2>got to push this up sharing somewhere or maybe you

1173
01:12:58.119 --> 01:13:01.600
<v Speaker 2>can see it there we go, okay, And so I'm

1174
01:13:01.680 --> 01:13:05.199
<v Speaker 2>just saying, before we give it to Esda Lauter, right,

1175
01:13:05.239 --> 01:13:07.319
<v Speaker 2>maybe we could give it to the people that need it.

1176
01:13:07.640 --> 01:13:09.439
<v Speaker 4>Like that's just my thoughts on it. And if we're

1177
01:13:09.479 --> 01:13:14.359
<v Speaker 4>gonna use crisper technology and different things like that, I mean, like,

1178
01:13:14.560 --> 01:13:17.000
<v Speaker 4>let's give it to the people that need it. I mean,

1179
01:13:18.039 --> 01:13:21.079
<v Speaker 4>i mean, beauty regimes, whatever you want to do to yourself, cool,

1180
01:13:21.439 --> 01:13:23.920
<v Speaker 4>but like let's let's put it in priority.

1181
01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:25.640
<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm. I agree.

1182
01:13:26.439 --> 01:13:27.399
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I agree with that.

1183
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:30.279
<v Speaker 4>Sandra Bullock has been all over TV talking about how

1184
01:13:30.359 --> 01:13:34.560
<v Speaker 4>she uses them for her face, so you know, you

1185
01:13:34.600 --> 01:13:37.359
<v Speaker 4>guys can google it. She she literally had a full

1186
01:13:37.479 --> 01:13:40.079
<v Speaker 4>ass discussion on a TV show. It wasn't just a

1187
01:13:40.199 --> 01:13:43.920
<v Speaker 4>quote about how you know, baby penises or in her

1188
01:13:44.199 --> 01:13:46.800
<v Speaker 4>whatever the hell she uses. And so I'm just saying,

1189
01:13:47.520 --> 01:13:49.279
<v Speaker 4>if we're going to give them to somebody, I feel

1190
01:13:49.359 --> 01:13:51.319
<v Speaker 4>like you should be able to say where it goes.

1191
01:13:51.520 --> 01:13:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Because they're keeping them, they're not going in the trash.

1192
01:13:54.199 --> 01:13:58.479
<v Speaker 2>Come on, get on your here. What's that? That's why

1193
01:13:58.560 --> 01:14:01.399
<v Speaker 2>they put them in the biohazard certain things. Same thing

1194
01:14:01.479 --> 01:14:02.840
<v Speaker 2>with the plus senta and everything.

1195
01:14:03.199 --> 01:14:06.119
<v Speaker 4>If it was really going in the trash, all the

1196
01:14:06.199 --> 01:14:08.319
<v Speaker 4>things in that room are biohazard.

1197
01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.720
<v Speaker 2>Why is there a special bucket just for that?

1198
01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:16.479
<v Speaker 3>M makes collection collection purposes.

1199
01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:19.119
<v Speaker 4>And people are so worried about spitting in a tube.

1200
01:14:19.159 --> 01:14:23.079
<v Speaker 4>I'm like, listen, unless you're amish and you're not ever

1201
01:14:23.199 --> 01:14:25.920
<v Speaker 4>going to a doctor ever in your life, and ever

1202
01:14:26.680 --> 01:14:30.199
<v Speaker 4>like any kind of normalcy with any hospital ever, I

1203
01:14:30.279 --> 01:14:31.359
<v Speaker 4>don't think you're getting out of it.

1204
01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:34.319
<v Speaker 2>They take samples from us all the time. Let's be real.

1205
01:14:34.840 --> 01:14:38.359
<v Speaker 2>That is very true. That happens. Yep.

1206
01:14:38.560 --> 01:14:43.279
<v Speaker 3>So here's another interesting thing. Probably don't have very many

1207
01:14:43.359 --> 01:14:44.800
<v Speaker 3>pictures if any of this.

1208
01:14:45.039 --> 01:14:45.840
<v Speaker 2>I forgot.

1209
01:14:47.319 --> 01:14:55.079
<v Speaker 3>This says this, this happens, but it's not a genetic

1210
01:14:55.279 --> 01:15:01.920
<v Speaker 3>mutation or anything like that. Is literally from says self

1211
01:15:02.520 --> 01:15:07.800
<v Speaker 3>treatment enthusiast people that take colloidal silver.

1212
01:15:08.880 --> 01:15:12.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I didn't get a picture of this yes.

1213
01:15:12.399 --> 01:15:17.920
<v Speaker 3>And basically, colloidal silver builds up in your body and

1214
01:15:18.199 --> 01:15:23.439
<v Speaker 3>cannot be excreted, and so it will cause your skin

1215
01:15:24.159 --> 01:15:29.960
<v Speaker 3>to be a discolored blue gray, a lovely shade of

1216
01:15:30.039 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 3>blue gray because of the silver build up because your

1217
01:15:34.760 --> 01:15:39.000
<v Speaker 3>body can't expel it. So that is called our geria.

1218
01:15:40.479 --> 01:15:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And so I've never seen that, but it would be

1219
01:15:45.960 --> 01:15:47.920
<v Speaker 3>It's not been in a side show, but it would

1220
01:15:47.960 --> 01:15:51.880
<v Speaker 3>be visually unique for a side show if you had

1221
01:15:51.920 --> 01:15:53.199
<v Speaker 3>a blue or gray person.

1222
01:15:54.199 --> 01:15:56.640
<v Speaker 2>Yes, I think that they do have some pictures and

1223
01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I forgot to do that one and I do.

1224
01:15:58.119 --> 01:16:00.319
<v Speaker 4>I'll reshare when we talk about yours down because I

1225
01:16:00.399 --> 01:16:03.399
<v Speaker 4>forgot they were out of order and we were going

1226
01:16:03.439 --> 01:16:05.800
<v Speaker 4>in a different direction. But I do think they have

1227
01:16:06.000 --> 01:16:09.279
<v Speaker 4>some on colloidal silver people because I remember seeing them

1228
01:16:09.319 --> 01:16:12.640
<v Speaker 4>and being because my dad, Yeah, my dad was super

1229
01:16:12.760 --> 01:16:16.640
<v Speaker 4>crazy about like alternative medicine, and we used to tell him,

1230
01:16:16.640 --> 01:16:19.039
<v Speaker 4>you're just gonna die from your crazy Mexican cures.

1231
01:16:19.159 --> 01:16:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know what is in that bottle, but

1232
01:16:21.439 --> 01:16:22.520
<v Speaker 2>like it frightens me.

1233
01:16:23.000 --> 01:16:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh, colloidal silver, Like right around the beginning of the

1234
01:16:30.680 --> 01:16:35.760
<v Speaker 3>when the world went ten to chaos, Yes, colloidal silver

1235
01:16:36.119 --> 01:16:39.920
<v Speaker 3>was being pushed really big at that time for put

1236
01:16:40.000 --> 01:16:44.439
<v Speaker 3>in in your toothpaste. They had all these influencers on

1237
01:16:44.720 --> 01:16:50.079
<v Speaker 3>Instagram and TikTok and whatever pushing colloidal silver. We can,

1238
01:16:50.399 --> 01:16:52.760
<v Speaker 3>we can make it, we can send it to you,

1239
01:16:53.119 --> 01:16:56.039
<v Speaker 3>you can use it for all these different things. If

1240
01:16:56.079 --> 01:16:59.199
<v Speaker 3>it's going to turn me into a smurf, I think

1241
01:16:59.680 --> 01:17:03.600
<v Speaker 3>that I'm just saying my color.

1242
01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:08.119
<v Speaker 2>So I mean, you know it's beautiful, but I don't

1243
01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:11.319
<v Speaker 2>want to be that color. So definitely google that because

1244
01:17:11.319 --> 01:17:14.199
<v Speaker 2>it's it is a real thing, and it's uncurable. This

1245
01:17:14.399 --> 01:17:16.800
<v Speaker 2>is the sad thing, Like if you done did it

1246
01:17:16.920 --> 01:17:19.520
<v Speaker 2>too much, it's unfixable. You cannot fix it.

1247
01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:24.000
<v Speaker 6>And so because you can't remove coloidal silver from your system,

1248
01:17:24.840 --> 01:17:28.439
<v Speaker 6>I think that's wild. Yeah, so even the people that

1249
01:17:28.680 --> 01:17:33.039
<v Speaker 6>use colloidal silver in their toothpaste all of the time,

1250
01:17:34.039 --> 01:17:37.279
<v Speaker 6>you're going to change the color of your teeth.

1251
01:17:38.000 --> 01:17:42.560
<v Speaker 2>How wild? Yes, saying, And you don't want to be

1252
01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:46.119
<v Speaker 2>a smurf unless you do I have you don't want

1253
01:17:46.159 --> 01:17:46.279
<v Speaker 2>to be.

1254
01:17:46.319 --> 01:17:51.640
<v Speaker 3>A I don't. Some people may super duper enjoy that.

1255
01:17:51.920 --> 01:17:56.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, very strange, not not first, we don't.

1256
01:17:56.279 --> 01:17:56.760
<v Speaker 2>We don't love.

1257
01:17:57.239 --> 01:18:00.760
<v Speaker 3>So if if people like that were on a sideshow,

1258
01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:04.159
<v Speaker 3>they would probably market them as aliens.

1259
01:18:04.840 --> 01:18:06.119
<v Speaker 2>Yes, maybe.

1260
01:18:07.640 --> 01:18:08.159
<v Speaker 3>Some people.

1261
01:18:09.319 --> 01:18:13.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, I think there's so much wrong with

1262
01:18:13.439 --> 01:18:14.079
<v Speaker 2>so many people.

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<v Speaker 3>But we're just not going to go there.

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01:18:18.960 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Will behave right now.

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<v Speaker 3>So the next thing we're going to talk about is

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01:18:24.800 --> 01:18:31.720
<v Speaker 3>Eeler's dan Lows. I forgot because Heidi and I have

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01:18:31.840 --> 01:18:35.600
<v Speaker 3>already done like a full episode on the Eelers dan

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01:18:35.680 --> 01:18:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Lows and all the different types and what kind of

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01:18:39.880 --> 01:18:44.560
<v Speaker 3>things are affected. So, uh, today we are gonna chitty

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01:18:44.640 --> 01:18:51.199
<v Speaker 3>chat about the one that affects the skin because people

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01:18:51.279 --> 01:18:56.039
<v Speaker 3>that have and I think it was the what was

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01:18:56.319 --> 01:19:00.760
<v Speaker 3>the traditional type of Eelers dan Lows. It's called classic

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01:19:00.960 --> 01:19:04.920
<v Speaker 3>or something like that. This was episode one one people,

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01:19:05.000 --> 01:19:06.479
<v Speaker 3>if you want to check that out.

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01:19:07.760 --> 01:19:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Can you see that? Okay?

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01:19:09.479 --> 01:19:14.279
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I used him as my He's wild. I love

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01:19:14.319 --> 01:19:16.600
<v Speaker 3>it thumbnail as well, so.

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01:19:16.920 --> 01:19:18.840
<v Speaker 2>I can say anything I want about this because I

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<v Speaker 2>have it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, So this is the type, which I think it

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01:19:24.600 --> 01:19:31.640
<v Speaker 3>was called classic. It has skin hyper extensibility, which means

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01:19:31.760 --> 01:19:36.760
<v Speaker 3>that they can literally stretch that skin in all kinds

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01:19:36.760 --> 01:19:39.600
<v Speaker 3>of different way, shapes and fashions.

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01:19:40.840 --> 01:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>They don't have the skin one, but it's crazy.

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01:19:43.239 --> 01:19:48.439
<v Speaker 3>The first man was literally pulling the skin from his

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01:19:48.680 --> 01:19:52.359
<v Speaker 3>face and like inworting it in different places. And I

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01:19:52.399 --> 01:19:53.880
<v Speaker 3>don't mean just a little.

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01:19:54.159 --> 01:19:57.079
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean I'll show you all this one. Check

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01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:57.439
<v Speaker 2>it out.

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01:19:57.920 --> 01:20:02.439
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, that's fabulous. That's kind of a kind of

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01:20:02.520 --> 01:20:03.920
<v Speaker 3>a fetish type picture.

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01:20:04.319 --> 01:20:05.159
<v Speaker 6>What the hell?

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01:20:05.359 --> 01:20:10.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this guy is using the big.

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01:20:12.479 --> 01:20:16.439
<v Speaker 2>Metal lamps like paper clamps, kind of yes.

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01:20:16.479 --> 01:20:20.399
<v Speaker 3>Like paper clamps, and he has them attached to a

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01:20:20.560 --> 01:20:24.199
<v Speaker 3>chain and some kind of device, and he's actually pulling

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01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 3>his skin from his cheeks and his neck out really

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01:20:29.840 --> 01:20:32.000
<v Speaker 3>far with these paper clamps.

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01:20:32.840 --> 01:20:35.600
<v Speaker 2>It's crazy bananas that that can happen.

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01:20:35.920 --> 01:20:39.760
<v Speaker 4>This is just a wild This guy has his neck

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01:20:40.760 --> 01:20:44.159
<v Speaker 4>over his nose like he pulled his neck skin like

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01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:45.680
<v Speaker 4>wo up over him.

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01:20:46.880 --> 01:20:51.119
<v Speaker 3>You know what this is? This right here is where

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01:20:51.239 --> 01:20:57.920
<v Speaker 3>they got the the marketing's genius behind those neck gators.

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01:20:58.479 --> 01:21:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh that's what's up. Oh my gosh, what this is or.

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01:21:04.079 --> 01:21:04.600
<v Speaker 3>Foreskin?

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01:21:05.439 --> 01:21:08.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I yeah, I didn't say it, but yeah I

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01:21:08.199 --> 01:21:10.439
<v Speaker 2>thought it. I thought it for sure. I'm just gonna

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01:21:10.479 --> 01:21:13.880
<v Speaker 2>say I don't care. And it's wild.

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<v Speaker 4>Because when he isn't pulling on his skin, if you

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01:21:16.399 --> 01:21:17.960
<v Speaker 4>guys notice, he looks normal.

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01:21:18.479 --> 01:21:21.800
<v Speaker 2>It's totally normal. But then when you pull it, it

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01:21:22.600 --> 01:21:26.720
<v Speaker 2>just stretches like crazy, and so these people have one

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01:21:26.840 --> 01:21:29.880
<v Speaker 2>nice thing and all of the elers daan. Most people

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01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.119
<v Speaker 2>have this, they get a look young.

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<v Speaker 4>This was kind of one of my diagnosing factors is

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01:21:35.760 --> 01:21:39.199
<v Speaker 4>you don't age that rapidly because your skin is weird.

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01:21:39.319 --> 01:21:44.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, it's a collagen disorder. And so that's

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01:21:44.560 --> 01:21:46.119
<v Speaker 2>one nice thing that we get.

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01:21:46.600 --> 01:21:51.279
<v Speaker 4>So I have the hypermobility type, which sucks because the

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01:21:51.399 --> 01:21:55.760
<v Speaker 4>skin trick is fun, but the hypermobility one hurts right

1322
01:21:56.000 --> 01:21:57.920
<v Speaker 4>like it's crappy.

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01:21:58.680 --> 01:22:02.000
<v Speaker 3>And I was dying then, the opposite of the way

1324
01:22:02.119 --> 01:22:02.960
<v Speaker 3>they were meant to be.

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01:22:03.920 --> 01:22:07.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so this is how I was diagnosed. So they

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01:22:07.159 --> 01:22:07.600
<v Speaker 2>are bending.

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01:22:07.720 --> 01:22:10.000
<v Speaker 4>A lot of people say I could bend my thumb

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01:22:10.079 --> 01:22:14.159
<v Speaker 4>forward too, and I'm like, no, with your head backward, and.

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01:22:14.199 --> 01:22:19.079
<v Speaker 2>I'll show you my little trick here there you go. Nope,

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01:22:20.680 --> 01:22:22.279
<v Speaker 2>So my joints do this.

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01:22:22.399 --> 01:22:24.520
<v Speaker 4>But the bad part about this is people will say, well,

1332
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:27.319
<v Speaker 4>that's cool because like a contortionists, until you start breaking

1333
01:22:27.359 --> 01:22:30.079
<v Speaker 4>your back and your hips and your because things.

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01:22:30.000 --> 01:22:33.119
<v Speaker 2>Just slide out of position. You wake up one day

1335
01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:36.720
<v Speaker 2>you sleep with your arm up and your shoulders dislocated,

1336
01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:39.880
<v Speaker 2>and I mean you just learn how to put things back,

1337
01:22:40.279 --> 01:22:45.159
<v Speaker 2>which sucks. It's extremely painful in general because when you walk,

1338
01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:49.720
<v Speaker 2>things move like they shouldn't. So yeah, sucky.

1339
01:22:50.520 --> 01:22:54.319
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, So imagine like the normal functioning of your

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01:22:54.439 --> 01:22:59.800
<v Speaker 3>body and people that have this this hyper flexibility type,

1341
01:23:01.880 --> 01:23:06.720
<v Speaker 3>how things moved backwards. So imagine walking and your knee

1342
01:23:07.199 --> 01:23:11.119
<v Speaker 3>went backwards. That's why when Heidi and I talked before,

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01:23:11.399 --> 01:23:17.000
<v Speaker 3>that is definitely me. I have had that many times

1344
01:23:17.079 --> 01:23:19.239
<v Speaker 3>where my knee went the wrong way.

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01:23:20.159 --> 01:23:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Yes, so do you have it too? Are you hypermobility?

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01:23:23.119 --> 01:23:26.640
<v Speaker 3>They have never diagnosed me with that, but I'm telling you.

1347
01:23:26.920 --> 01:23:32.000
<v Speaker 2>Touch your nose with your tongue, this is a diagnosis.

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01:23:33.359 --> 01:23:36.880
<v Speaker 3>I will not show people on video because I just did.

1349
01:23:37.399 --> 01:23:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I don't want it. I don't want to cause all

1350
01:23:39.760 --> 01:23:41.800
<v Speaker 3>kinds of excitement for your day, you know.

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01:23:42.199 --> 01:23:46.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah now, yeah, now, hey, we have talent whatever.

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01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:51.760
<v Speaker 4>Fine, but yes, things pop out and they don't necessarily

1353
01:23:52.239 --> 01:23:57.640
<v Speaker 4>go back, go back. Yeah, this guy has it, and

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01:23:57.840 --> 01:24:00.720
<v Speaker 4>he is displaying my daughter can do. But it freaks

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01:24:00.760 --> 01:24:04.199
<v Speaker 4>me out. I don't try to do this because it

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01:24:04.279 --> 01:24:04.920
<v Speaker 4>freaks me out.

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01:24:05.479 --> 01:24:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure I could that I.

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01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:10.800
<v Speaker 3>Can, and then you run the risk if you're doing this,

1359
01:24:11.399 --> 01:24:14.520
<v Speaker 3>our joint's going to go back, and so I know

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01:24:14.640 --> 01:24:18.800
<v Speaker 3>we talked about that on our full show on Elers,

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01:24:18.880 --> 01:24:23.560
<v Speaker 3>Dan lows about people that are quote unquote double jointed,

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01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:27.640
<v Speaker 3>which is what the picture of this girl looks like.

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01:24:27.840 --> 01:24:31.920
<v Speaker 3>She's double jointed to be able to do that, which

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01:24:32.439 --> 01:24:37.359
<v Speaker 3>all reality is literally Eler stands.

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01:24:37.479 --> 01:24:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Right, right, and they I mean the skin thing is

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01:24:41.960 --> 01:24:44.880
<v Speaker 4>crazy to me, Like this brings a whole new meaning

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01:24:44.960 --> 01:24:47.079
<v Speaker 4>to the word skin suit for my brain.

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01:24:49.199 --> 01:24:51.159
<v Speaker 2>But I don't have that type, thank Heaven's.

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01:24:51.239 --> 01:24:52.960
<v Speaker 4>But like I said, the second type, I don't know

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01:24:53.039 --> 01:24:54.920
<v Speaker 4>if it's any better because it's still it's like a

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01:24:55.000 --> 01:24:55.800
<v Speaker 4>whole pain.

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01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:59.399
<v Speaker 3>So when I see you, like, I'm not going to

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01:24:59.399 --> 01:25:01.359
<v Speaker 3>be able to pull your skin.

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01:25:01.199 --> 01:25:07.680
<v Speaker 4>And no like the elephant girl, Yes, the poor elephant girl,

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01:25:07.760 --> 01:25:11.079
<v Speaker 4>I guess she could do that. They didn't show, but

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01:25:11.239 --> 01:25:14.279
<v Speaker 4>you can see the wrinkles like literally it's like a

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01:25:14.359 --> 01:25:17.720
<v Speaker 4>suit of of like like a person that lost a

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01:25:17.760 --> 01:25:18.279
<v Speaker 4>lot of weight.

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01:25:18.760 --> 01:25:22.560
<v Speaker 2>And then yeah, it's like from though.

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01:25:22.960 --> 01:25:27.720
<v Speaker 3>This is what Okay, So what Heightie's talking about the

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01:25:27.960 --> 01:25:31.079
<v Speaker 3>elephant girl and the condition that she has, and it

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01:25:31.720 --> 01:25:36.039
<v Speaker 3>it looks like elephant skin because it's textured the same

1383
01:25:36.720 --> 01:25:40.479
<v Speaker 3>and it does have like the wrinkles and the folds

1384
01:25:40.720 --> 01:25:43.600
<v Speaker 3>just like an just like an elephant does.

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01:25:44.439 --> 01:25:48.720
<v Speaker 4>Yes, and so babies like, this isn't from weight loss,

1386
01:25:48.880 --> 01:25:52.000
<v Speaker 4>this isn't from this is like from little I.

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01:25:52.159 --> 01:25:57.199
<v Speaker 3>Was gonna say, uh, gastric bypass surgery right right. We've

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01:25:57.319 --> 01:26:00.239
<v Speaker 3>had a lot of patients that have the skin that

1389
01:26:00.479 --> 01:26:05.960
<v Speaker 3>hangs like drapes, but it's not textured like this, no, so.

1390
01:26:06.399 --> 01:26:10.239
<v Speaker 4>And it's soft usually like so elers down loss. Your

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01:26:10.279 --> 01:26:12.800
<v Speaker 4>skin will be softer than normal people's skin. It'll be

1392
01:26:12.960 --> 01:26:16.119
<v Speaker 4>see through like you can. It's and this comes from

1393
01:26:16.159 --> 01:26:21.000
<v Speaker 4>the stupid in breeding of the royals because they called

1394
01:26:21.039 --> 01:26:24.680
<v Speaker 4>them blue bloods right because you can see their veins

1395
01:26:25.039 --> 01:26:25.800
<v Speaker 4>and they were kind of.

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01:26:25.840 --> 01:26:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Proud of this, which is so random and weird, but yeah,

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01:26:29.840 --> 01:26:30.439
<v Speaker 2>that's what's up.

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01:26:30.920 --> 01:26:37.760
<v Speaker 3>So, so the Elephant Girl was Susie the elephant skin Girl.

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01:26:38.720 --> 01:26:41.760
<v Speaker 3>It said that she was the only person in her

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01:26:41.840 --> 01:26:45.680
<v Speaker 3>family that ever had any kind of weird skin condition

1401
01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:51.800
<v Speaker 3>or anything like that. But the creases were mostly formed

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01:26:52.000 --> 01:26:56.319
<v Speaker 3>in the joints et ceterac sector. So she traveled around

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01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:02.840
<v Speaker 3>Europe because she was born in Germany. Earned Blynn traveled

1404
01:27:02.920 --> 01:27:07.279
<v Speaker 3>around Europe first, then she came to Cody Island and

1405
01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:11.600
<v Speaker 3>started performing there, and that's where she got the nickname

1406
01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:15.239
<v Speaker 3>the Elephant Skin Girl and Susie, which is not her

1407
01:27:15.319 --> 01:27:20.880
<v Speaker 3>real name anyway, Charlotte Linda Vogel. So she did that

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01:27:21.079 --> 01:27:26.439
<v Speaker 3>for a while, but because performing was so demanding and

1409
01:27:26.600 --> 01:27:29.840
<v Speaker 3>they wanted her to do so many shows, she left

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01:27:31.239 --> 01:27:34.760
<v Speaker 3>and decided that she was going to be featured in

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01:27:34.920 --> 01:27:39.159
<v Speaker 3>Ripley's Believe It or Not, which was the exhibit at

1412
01:27:39.239 --> 01:27:40.800
<v Speaker 3>the Chicago World's Fair.

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01:27:41.479 --> 01:27:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

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01:27:42.720 --> 01:27:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Kind of weird how the World's Fair ties in with

1415
01:27:46.319 --> 01:27:48.479
<v Speaker 3>the side shows.

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01:27:48.680 --> 01:27:48.920
<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:53.119
<v Speaker 3>So she did that, but they made her perform like

1418
01:27:53.479 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 3>eight times a day. Oh wow at this Ripley's Believe

1419
01:27:58.239 --> 01:28:00.319
<v Speaker 3>It or Not. So it was too exhausting for her,

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01:28:00.880 --> 01:28:07.760
<v Speaker 3>so she quit and and opened her own show, this

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01:28:08.079 --> 01:28:13.039
<v Speaker 3>girl called the Swamp Girl. Oh and she builled it

1422
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:18.039
<v Speaker 3>as an improbable cross between a woman and a swamp lizard.

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01:28:19.119 --> 01:28:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Why would she pick that? There's so much better?

1424
01:28:22.319 --> 01:28:23.520
<v Speaker 3>I have no idea.

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01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:31.079
<v Speaker 2>That's so weird, I mean, mm hmmm, swamp Girl. I

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01:28:31.319 --> 01:28:34.520
<v Speaker 2>just I don't know. I don't know if that translates over.

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01:28:34.920 --> 01:28:38.039
<v Speaker 3>I don't. I don't know. Because she had her maybe

1428
01:28:38.119 --> 01:28:42.479
<v Speaker 3>they told her she couldn't use Elephant Girl anymore. So

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01:28:42.680 --> 01:28:44.399
<v Speaker 3>she had to come up with something she could.

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01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Be like elastic girl skin or I don't know, curtain

1431
01:28:49.399 --> 01:28:50.159
<v Speaker 2>curtain skin.

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01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:54.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, curtain girl, curtain girl.

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01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:57.000
<v Speaker 2>Maybe, I mean maybe she thought that that would be

1434
01:28:58.279 --> 01:28:59.520
<v Speaker 2>a false advertising.

1435
01:29:00.079 --> 01:29:02.520
<v Speaker 3>Okay, I'm gonna share a story with you because I

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01:29:02.640 --> 01:29:03.640
<v Speaker 3>said curtain girl.

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01:29:06.079 --> 01:29:09.800
<v Speaker 2>I did have a.

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01:29:12.239 --> 01:29:15.159
<v Speaker 3>Person that I knew at one point in time that

1439
01:29:15.439 --> 01:29:24.520
<v Speaker 3>was a female that the lips down below warlike curtains

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01:29:25.720 --> 01:29:31.199
<v Speaker 3>because I've it's almost like I've never in my life

1441
01:29:31.359 --> 01:29:36.000
<v Speaker 3>like you could literally wrap that around someone's head twice.

1442
01:29:37.319 --> 01:29:40.079
<v Speaker 3>And I don't mean that in a bad way, but

1443
01:29:40.239 --> 01:29:42.680
<v Speaker 3>we're we were talking about it a lot, and it's

1444
01:29:42.760 --> 01:29:48.319
<v Speaker 3>just stretchie the skinna. So think about the your ear lobe, right,

1445
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:51.359
<v Speaker 3>and people were gauges to like stretch them out and

1446
01:29:51.439 --> 01:29:56.359
<v Speaker 3>make the holes bingeror whatever. This was a natural occurrence.

1447
01:29:58.159 --> 01:30:04.359
<v Speaker 3>Doesn't know what happened, but they were so long that

1448
01:30:04.600 --> 01:30:10.199
<v Speaker 3>she actually had a vaginal labia revision.

1449
01:30:11.119 --> 01:30:15.319
<v Speaker 2>I would as well, ye, we'll go in and chop

1450
01:30:15.439 --> 01:30:18.199
<v Speaker 2>that off if it is excessive like that.

1451
01:30:18.520 --> 01:30:21.359
<v Speaker 4>And even in some of these you know, skin ones,

1452
01:30:22.039 --> 01:30:24.880
<v Speaker 4>I guess maybe I'll trade the pain because I'll keep

1453
01:30:24.920 --> 01:30:26.600
<v Speaker 4>the pain for not having curtains.

1454
01:30:26.720 --> 01:30:29.319
<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't know. You know, I don't know

1455
01:30:29.520 --> 01:30:31.640
<v Speaker 2>what's worse because she fixed it clearly, but then you

1456
01:30:31.760 --> 01:30:34.840
<v Speaker 2>have to live with it until that's painful.

1457
01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:39.600
<v Speaker 3>Though happened, happened that revision double because that's we're all

1458
01:30:39.680 --> 01:30:43.199
<v Speaker 3>skin down there and in the yonder.

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01:30:43.000 --> 01:30:48.479
<v Speaker 2>Parts and the yonder nether regions, y'all. That's rough. Yeah,

1460
01:30:48.560 --> 01:30:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I just can't. I don't know.

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01:30:50.279 --> 01:30:53.159
<v Speaker 4>I mean, from what I saw so far on these people,

1462
01:30:53.960 --> 01:30:56.279
<v Speaker 4>they were lucky enough that their skin went back right,

1463
01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.239
<v Speaker 4>but not the elephant girl right.

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01:30:58.279 --> 01:31:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Hers was saggy. Though that's rough. I don't know. I

1465
01:31:03.000 --> 01:31:04.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I don't know what's worse.

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01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:07.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean, there's many many types of elers Dan lost

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01:31:07.720 --> 01:31:10.119
<v Speaker 4>you guys, and you can, like Janet said, check out

1468
01:31:10.119 --> 01:31:12.640
<v Speaker 4>our episode on that. But I think the most common

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01:31:12.760 --> 01:31:16.239
<v Speaker 4>is what I have, which is called heeds hypermobility. None

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01:31:16.279 --> 01:31:19.600
<v Speaker 4>of the skin weirdness, thank Heaven's, although it does give

1471
01:31:19.640 --> 01:31:23.079
<v Speaker 4>me some perks. I have extra soft skin. My husband's

1472
01:31:23.079 --> 01:31:26.239
<v Speaker 4>always like, oh my gosh, your hands are like like

1473
01:31:26.680 --> 01:31:29.399
<v Speaker 4>the softest ever, which they call velvet skin.

1474
01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:33.880
<v Speaker 2>Also with that, when you carry babies, it rips like it.

1475
01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:37.239
<v Speaker 4>Doesn't just get stretch marks. It's a sitch, you know,

1476
01:31:37.520 --> 01:31:40.520
<v Speaker 4>and so think Kevin's that goes away when things go

1477
01:31:40.640 --> 01:31:43.800
<v Speaker 4>back down. But oh it's painful, like literally painful stretch

1478
01:31:43.880 --> 01:31:47.279
<v Speaker 4>marks and different weird things like that.

1479
01:31:47.520 --> 01:31:49.439
<v Speaker 2>But our skin doesn't like to heal.

1480
01:31:49.359 --> 01:31:52.960
<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah. But luckily, like I said, would I

1481
01:31:53.079 --> 01:31:57.760
<v Speaker 4>trade the pain for the aging, I don't know, you

1482
01:31:59.359 --> 01:32:02.159
<v Speaker 4>I don't know, freaks me out. I'm like, well, I

1483
01:32:02.199 --> 01:32:04.319
<v Speaker 4>don't really know any difference because it's not like you

1484
01:32:04.479 --> 01:32:07.560
<v Speaker 4>never had pain, like you're born basically in pain.

1485
01:32:08.159 --> 01:32:12.399
<v Speaker 2>So I don't know. I definitely learned to not do

1486
01:32:12.520 --> 01:32:14.359
<v Speaker 2>all my fun parlor tricks.

1487
01:32:14.119 --> 01:32:19.479
<v Speaker 4>Anymore, like exactly behind my head and crazy things, because.

1488
01:32:19.840 --> 01:32:23.920
<v Speaker 3>See I used to be able to do that with

1489
01:32:24.079 --> 01:32:27.159
<v Speaker 3>the legs. I can't, yep, obviously not anymore.

1490
01:32:27.359 --> 01:32:31.119
<v Speaker 4>But no, but if you do have eelers downlosts, that

1491
01:32:31.159 --> 01:32:33.760
<v Speaker 4>would make sense why you also have back issues because

1492
01:32:33.960 --> 01:32:36.960
<v Speaker 4>we don't walk normally because things slide out of your

1493
01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:37.920
<v Speaker 4>spinal cord.

1494
01:32:37.760 --> 01:32:40.279
<v Speaker 2>Should not be moving around while you're walking, and they.

1495
01:32:40.319 --> 01:32:44.199
<v Speaker 3>And they have stay back and that's that's exactly why

1496
01:32:45.359 --> 01:32:49.680
<v Speaker 3>they did this fusion, because mine was moving in ways.

1497
01:32:49.760 --> 01:32:52.680
<v Speaker 2>It's not supposed so see that that makes me think

1498
01:32:52.680 --> 01:32:54.920
<v Speaker 2>you really can you binge with on backward like I did?

1499
01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:58.239
<v Speaker 3>Like this, No, okay, mind Jessica.

1500
01:32:58.359 --> 01:33:01.800
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if people can even see not that

1501
01:33:01.960 --> 01:33:02.840
<v Speaker 2>way but this way.

1502
01:33:03.199 --> 01:33:05.640
<v Speaker 3>You No, I can't that far.

1503
01:33:05.920 --> 01:33:09.680
<v Speaker 2>It just normal. I can't normal, and mine are like,

1504
01:33:10.319 --> 01:33:16.000
<v Speaker 2>my hands are here. I'll do my little trick. It's

1505
01:33:16.039 --> 01:33:20.680
<v Speaker 2>a fun one. My husband was like, what the hell?

1506
01:33:20.800 --> 01:33:23.439
<v Speaker 2>I used to show people in like high school and stuff,

1507
01:33:23.479 --> 01:33:26.760
<v Speaker 2>but not the head the lake behind.

1508
01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:29.239
<v Speaker 3>He's gonna start charging in a mission thing.

1509
01:33:30.920 --> 01:33:32.279
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what honor?

1510
01:33:33.439 --> 01:33:36.359
<v Speaker 3>He start his own side show at home, right, just

1511
01:33:36.439 --> 01:33:36.840
<v Speaker 3>at home.

1512
01:33:36.960 --> 01:33:39.560
<v Speaker 4>I'll just be in the window doing my cool tricks.

1513
01:33:39.600 --> 01:33:41.760
<v Speaker 4>But they would, you know, what they would want. They

1514
01:33:41.760 --> 01:33:42.319
<v Speaker 4>would want the.

1515
01:33:42.359 --> 01:33:46.520
<v Speaker 2>Bad ones for Yeah, I don't. I don't get damn

1516
01:33:46.600 --> 01:33:49.359
<v Speaker 2>like that. But and I don't. I don't want them.

1517
01:33:49.960 --> 01:33:52.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't want them kidnapping you and taking Yeah.

1518
01:33:53.119 --> 01:33:56.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, yeah they might. And that was you know,

1519
01:33:56.119 --> 01:33:58.479
<v Speaker 2>I almost got kidnapped in the Dominican ones. That was

1520
01:33:58.600 --> 01:34:00.680
<v Speaker 2>really scary. That's a real story.

1521
01:34:02.119 --> 01:34:05.840
<v Speaker 4>I got detained and the plane was leaving and they

1522
01:34:05.960 --> 01:34:08.560
<v Speaker 4>took my husband away and put me in a room

1523
01:34:08.640 --> 01:34:12.000
<v Speaker 4>all by myself with these humongous security guys, and they

1524
01:34:12.000 --> 01:34:14.600
<v Speaker 4>said it was about my bag. But I know Spanish

1525
01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.399
<v Speaker 4>and I think it saved my life. So I don't

1526
01:34:17.439 --> 01:34:21.560
<v Speaker 4>know amazing Spanish, but I know a pretty good amount.

1527
01:34:21.680 --> 01:34:25.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm very conversational, like I know plenty. And they were

1528
01:34:25.960 --> 01:34:28.000
<v Speaker 4>on the phone, but they weren't talking about my bag.

1529
01:34:28.039 --> 01:34:30.720
<v Speaker 4>They were talking about my hair color, my eye color,

1530
01:34:31.039 --> 01:34:34.800
<v Speaker 4>and my body, and I was I lost my mind

1531
01:34:35.000 --> 01:34:38.359
<v Speaker 4>and I started like yelling at them and Spanish, and

1532
01:34:39.239 --> 01:34:42.119
<v Speaker 4>my husband started pounding on the door and as soon

1533
01:34:42.159 --> 01:34:44.319
<v Speaker 4>as they heard me speaking Spanish, they like shoved all

1534
01:34:44.359 --> 01:34:46.359
<v Speaker 4>my shit in the bag and like threw me out

1535
01:34:46.399 --> 01:34:46.960
<v Speaker 4>the door and we.

1536
01:34:47.039 --> 01:34:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Made the thing.

1537
01:34:49.039 --> 01:34:51.359
<v Speaker 3>It was terrifying when who doesn't speak Spanish.

1538
01:34:52.079 --> 01:34:54.199
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that was terrifying. I was like I can't even

1539
01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:59.159
<v Speaker 4>break y'all, like everything's all gone, like knock it off, Yeah.

1540
01:34:59.079 --> 01:35:01.960
<v Speaker 3>Out of here. With that, I don't want to go there.

1541
01:35:02.199 --> 01:35:03.920
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of places I don't want to go,

1542
01:35:04.239 --> 01:35:05.039
<v Speaker 3>just because it was.

1543
01:35:05.319 --> 01:35:09.960
<v Speaker 4>Actually amazing, but just the airport was scary, which is random,

1544
01:35:10.079 --> 01:35:13.079
<v Speaker 4>you would think not. But the actual island, of course,

1545
01:35:13.119 --> 01:35:17.000
<v Speaker 4>we were in an inclusive gated all that stuff, like

1546
01:35:17.119 --> 01:35:18.239
<v Speaker 4>it was very safe.

1547
01:35:18.319 --> 01:35:22.279
<v Speaker 2>But we actually got married there and it was beautiful, beautiful.

1548
01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.399
<v Speaker 3>It would be pretty to see. But I don't know.

1549
01:35:26.640 --> 01:35:28.279
<v Speaker 3>The world is so Craig Cray.

1550
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:33.439
<v Speaker 2>And I know, I know it was fantastic. Oh.

1551
01:35:35.439 --> 01:35:37.600
<v Speaker 3>I got to mention this because you know, I said

1552
01:35:37.640 --> 01:35:43.840
<v Speaker 3>earlier that sometimes the performers had multiple things. So back

1553
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:48.800
<v Speaker 3>to the episode number one that we had with the

1554
01:35:48.920 --> 01:35:54.760
<v Speaker 3>seafarer diagnoses Grady Styles, who was bash, hit nuts and

1555
01:35:55.439 --> 01:36:03.600
<v Speaker 3>murdered people. He also, outside of lobstercle hands, also had

1556
01:36:04.039 --> 01:36:06.119
<v Speaker 3>the ichtheosis vulgaris.

1557
01:36:06.359 --> 01:36:10.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh he did, yes, So it's weird.

1558
01:36:10.800 --> 01:36:15.399
<v Speaker 3>That's why I like multiple performers. Uh, it wasn't uncommon

1559
01:36:15.520 --> 01:36:18.880
<v Speaker 3>for them to have more than one condition. And oh

1560
01:36:18.960 --> 01:36:19.960
<v Speaker 3>then they could really play.

1561
01:36:20.079 --> 01:36:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Isn't his mom on drugs or something with him was?

1562
01:36:22.880 --> 01:36:26.359
<v Speaker 2>Or no, I can't remember. There was one. I don't know.

1563
01:36:27.159 --> 01:36:29.319
<v Speaker 4>Oh, speaking of I have to tell this one last

1564
01:36:29.359 --> 01:36:31.720
<v Speaker 4>story about the elephant man. You know, you guys, he

1565
01:36:31.840 --> 01:36:35.520
<v Speaker 4>went through his life because at that time they really

1566
01:36:35.640 --> 01:36:39.399
<v Speaker 4>thought that women when they were pregnant, if you saw

1567
01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:43.640
<v Speaker 4>something that scared you, it could change your baby. And

1568
01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:45.800
<v Speaker 4>I guess she got scared by an elephant while she

1569
01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:49.399
<v Speaker 4>was pregnant, so they literally call it pregnancy impression. And

1570
01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:51.800
<v Speaker 4>she went through the rest of her life believing that

1571
01:36:51.920 --> 01:36:54.840
<v Speaker 4>she caused this to her son because she got scared

1572
01:36:54.960 --> 01:36:55.680
<v Speaker 4>by an elephant.

1573
01:36:56.000 --> 01:36:59.399
<v Speaker 3>Well that is really sad because what is that That

1574
01:36:59.640 --> 01:37:04.199
<v Speaker 3>is that is literally blame the mother. Yeah, and that

1575
01:37:04.439 --> 01:37:09.119
<v Speaker 3>is literally, uh like a terrible guilt to be faced

1576
01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:14.640
<v Speaker 3>with with your whole entire life because in printing you

1577
01:37:14.760 --> 01:37:16.239
<v Speaker 3>with some kind of bullshit.

1578
01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:17.800
<v Speaker 2>It was sad.

1579
01:37:18.039 --> 01:37:20.039
<v Speaker 4>I felt really bad for both of them. And then

1580
01:37:20.119 --> 01:37:22.359
<v Speaker 4>she dies right after, and then the dad just beats

1581
01:37:22.399 --> 01:37:23.600
<v Speaker 4>the ship out of him constantly.

1582
01:37:23.680 --> 01:37:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like, Wow, great, great story. Whoa So yeah,

1583
01:37:30.199 --> 01:37:32.079
<v Speaker 2>they really used to think this stuff though.

1584
01:37:33.199 --> 01:37:34.399
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well that.

1585
01:37:35.920 --> 01:37:39.119
<v Speaker 2>Must have seen a seal I don't know.

1586
01:37:42.159 --> 01:37:47.720
<v Speaker 3>And your girl her mom's all mermaid right exactly.

1587
01:37:48.520 --> 01:37:50.439
<v Speaker 2>We're kidding you guys. We got to lighten it up

1588
01:37:50.439 --> 01:37:54.399
<v Speaker 2>a little bit. We saw some freaking traumatic photos. So yeah.

1589
01:37:55.079 --> 01:37:59.479
<v Speaker 3>So here's an interesting performer. His name was Willie Harris.

1590
01:38:00.279 --> 01:38:06.359
<v Speaker 3>He was billed as the frog Boy. He had ixtheosis

1591
01:38:06.479 --> 01:38:11.560
<v Speaker 3>of his skin, but it gave him or that he

1592
01:38:11.800 --> 01:38:15.920
<v Speaker 3>was promoted. I guess it didn't give him. They promoted

1593
01:38:16.039 --> 01:38:21.119
<v Speaker 3>him as a green, slimy froglike character, even though he

1594
01:38:21.239 --> 01:38:25.359
<v Speaker 3>didn't really have green skin, but they would they would

1595
01:38:25.520 --> 01:38:30.439
<v Speaker 3>slather him up and stuff before they like tossed him

1596
01:38:30.479 --> 01:38:32.920
<v Speaker 3>out there to perform, so that he would get the

1597
01:38:33.079 --> 01:38:35.399
<v Speaker 3>frog type color.

1598
01:38:36.359 --> 01:38:40.840
<v Speaker 2>Yuck. Here, it's yeah, Barnham, I hope you had some

1599
01:38:41.000 --> 01:38:43.000
<v Speaker 2>answering to do when you got where you're going.

1600
01:38:43.239 --> 01:38:49.600
<v Speaker 3>A hundred person not okay. So the the elastic skin

1601
01:38:49.760 --> 01:38:53.119
<v Speaker 3>man that you showed the pictures of earlier, he has

1602
01:38:53.279 --> 01:38:57.520
<v Speaker 3>elers dan lows, but his name was Felix Whirlie and

1603
01:38:57.680 --> 01:39:04.079
<v Speaker 3>he was literally the most famous side show performer because

1604
01:39:04.119 --> 01:39:08.159
<v Speaker 3>of his ability. So I gotta go over really quick.

1605
01:39:10.439 --> 01:39:14.359
<v Speaker 3>So these are skin conditions that are really weird that

1606
01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:19.399
<v Speaker 3>could warrant h circus side show stuff, but some of

1607
01:39:19.560 --> 01:39:26.239
<v Speaker 3>them were not ever included for different reasons. So I've

1608
01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:30.560
<v Speaker 3>had a patient with this one. It's called Morgellon's disease

1609
01:39:30.880 --> 01:39:39.479
<v Speaker 3>and it's a serbucial diagnosis. Patients report crawling sensations, skin leasions,

1610
01:39:40.000 --> 01:39:42.800
<v Speaker 3>and fibers emerging from their skin.

1611
01:39:43.600 --> 01:39:44.479
<v Speaker 2>And they come out.

1612
01:39:44.920 --> 01:39:48.000
<v Speaker 4>They literally pull them Like I used to think it

1613
01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:50.720
<v Speaker 4>was bullshit, but I have seen them pull them out.

1614
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:56.840
<v Speaker 3>The weird things. Well, I had a patient that our

1615
01:39:57.479 --> 01:40:01.600
<v Speaker 3>doctor thought she was nuts because she was talking about

1616
01:40:01.960 --> 01:40:07.600
<v Speaker 3>eggs in her nose and eggs in her skin and

1617
01:40:07.720 --> 01:40:11.279
<v Speaker 3>whatever this thing was was implanting eggs in her and

1618
01:40:11.399 --> 01:40:15.960
<v Speaker 3>we thought, okay, she's uber like uber uber on drugs.

1619
01:40:16.840 --> 01:40:21.159
<v Speaker 3>But she literally had things come out of her arm

1620
01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:26.640
<v Speaker 3>in the office, and I was like another taken aback moment,

1621
01:40:26.760 --> 01:40:28.760
<v Speaker 3>and I'm like, what the hurl is that?

1622
01:40:29.039 --> 01:40:35.079
<v Speaker 2>No, ma'am, No, ma'am, You're like, listen, doctor, clearly this

1623
01:40:35.359 --> 01:40:36.359
<v Speaker 2>is not in her head.

1624
01:40:36.479 --> 01:40:41.039
<v Speaker 3>I mean it is, but obviously, but she was like

1625
01:40:41.439 --> 01:40:44.760
<v Speaker 3>wanting him to, you know, use the otoscope for the

1626
01:40:44.880 --> 01:40:48.600
<v Speaker 3>ear to look up her nose because she could feel.

1627
01:40:49.800 --> 01:40:53.319
<v Speaker 3>So she did have things come out of her arm,

1628
01:40:53.439 --> 01:40:56.279
<v Speaker 3>and they weren't fibers, I don't.

1629
01:40:56.439 --> 01:41:00.239
<v Speaker 2>They were like eggs. Yes, did he get anything out

1630
01:41:00.279 --> 01:41:00.720
<v Speaker 2>of her nose?

1631
01:41:02.000 --> 01:41:04.479
<v Speaker 3>I don't think he looked because he thought she was nuts.

1632
01:41:05.199 --> 01:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Well, but she showed him stuff. I don't know. That's

1633
01:41:09.880 --> 01:41:13.760
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that sounds like parasites. It was.

1634
01:41:14.079 --> 01:41:17.920
<v Speaker 3>It was pretty crazy. And and so I said it

1635
01:41:18.039 --> 01:41:25.640
<v Speaker 3>was controversial virtual because they think it is a delusional

1636
01:41:26.920 --> 01:41:31.319
<v Speaker 3>thing or uh, parasitosis.

1637
01:41:32.000 --> 01:41:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I'm telling you, guys, these delusional.

1638
01:41:34.880 --> 01:41:39.000
<v Speaker 4>People are pulling hair fibers out like this long it's

1639
01:41:39.199 --> 01:41:40.560
<v Speaker 4>and they're not ingrown hairs.

1640
01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:46.680
<v Speaker 3>And I would imagine probably more so after than the

1641
01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:55.039
<v Speaker 3>X because of the self assembling nano technology stuff. So

1642
01:41:56.399 --> 01:42:01.000
<v Speaker 3>could incidents of this pop up or we should.

1643
01:42:00.920 --> 01:42:03.840
<v Speaker 2>We should check and see if there's a higher incidence

1644
01:42:03.920 --> 01:42:06.159
<v Speaker 2>after we'll have to dig because I'm sure it's going

1645
01:42:06.239 --> 01:42:07.399
<v Speaker 2>to not come up, of.

1646
01:42:07.560 --> 01:42:11.039
<v Speaker 3>Course not, it's gonna be buried. So the next one

1647
01:42:11.439 --> 01:42:16.600
<v Speaker 3>is dermatographia, which means that you can write on the

1648
01:42:16.720 --> 01:42:19.720
<v Speaker 3>skin and it will stay there for a while. I

1649
01:42:20.119 --> 01:42:24.079
<v Speaker 3>actually had this for quite a while when I was younger,

1650
01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:28.439
<v Speaker 3>Like I could literally write a message on my skin

1651
01:42:28.640 --> 01:42:31.920
<v Speaker 3>and it would stay there for a while. And so

1652
01:42:32.880 --> 01:42:37.239
<v Speaker 3>that you're gonna love this. It's caused by mast cell

1653
01:42:38.039 --> 01:42:44.039
<v Speaker 3>ohsativity and so the things that cause allergic reactions to

1654
01:42:44.119 --> 01:42:50.039
<v Speaker 3>go into hyperdrive part of your immune system. That's what

1655
01:42:50.279 --> 01:42:53.960
<v Speaker 3>causes this to happen. And it's it's like rare. It's

1656
01:42:54.079 --> 01:42:57.600
<v Speaker 3>kind of a form of hives, but it doesn't last

1657
01:42:57.800 --> 01:43:01.479
<v Speaker 3>very long. And so they couldn't use people like me

1658
01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:03.760
<v Speaker 3>and the side show back in the day, even though

1659
01:43:03.840 --> 01:43:09.600
<v Speaker 3>I would have gone willingly yes, whatever. Yeah, I would

1660
01:43:09.640 --> 01:43:12.520
<v Speaker 3>have gone, but they wouldn't let make us. The writing

1661
01:43:12.600 --> 01:43:13.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't day long enough.

1662
01:43:14.000 --> 01:43:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh man.

1663
01:43:15.479 --> 01:43:22.159
<v Speaker 3>So here's an interesting called blow syndrome, and it's a

1664
01:43:22.399 --> 01:43:30.159
<v Speaker 3>rare inherited granulomitous disorder that causes weird skin rashes, arthritis,

1665
01:43:30.680 --> 01:43:38.359
<v Speaker 3>and inflammation. They it wasn't visually dramatic enough for them

1666
01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:43.439
<v Speaker 3>to be put in a side show. But you'll have

1667
01:43:43.720 --> 01:43:50.000
<v Speaker 3>like little weird like benign tumors grow up under your

1668
01:43:50.079 --> 01:43:58.720
<v Speaker 3>skin here and there, or like strange bending of your joints.

1669
01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:05.319
<v Speaker 3>So like little almost like little arthritic tumors on your joints.

1670
01:44:06.439 --> 01:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, it's like a Bible bump.

1671
01:44:09.920 --> 01:44:19.239
<v Speaker 3>You freak fingering, Okay. So and then we already talked

1672
01:44:19.279 --> 01:44:23.479
<v Speaker 3>about the moles. But here's an interesting one. It's a

1673
01:44:23.600 --> 01:44:30.199
<v Speaker 3>rethrow poetic proto porphia, and it is extreme sensitivity to

1674
01:44:30.439 --> 01:44:34.640
<v Speaker 3>sunlight causes burning, pain and swelling within minutes, kind of

1675
01:44:34.760 --> 01:44:35.560
<v Speaker 3>like the other one that.

1676
01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:36.359
<v Speaker 2>We talked about.

1677
01:44:38.079 --> 01:44:42.039
<v Speaker 3>And this is from uh a rethrow point and is

1678
01:44:42.680 --> 01:44:46.000
<v Speaker 3>made from the bone marrow. That's how your red blood

1679
01:44:46.039 --> 01:44:50.800
<v Speaker 3>cells are made. Is from the rethrow poeaton that comes

1680
01:44:50.880 --> 01:44:54.439
<v Speaker 3>from your bone marrow. And so this is a genetic

1681
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:59.800
<v Speaker 3>disorder that comes from an over production of heme, which

1682
01:44:59.840 --> 01:45:03.800
<v Speaker 3>is is the blood component of your blood or the

1683
01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:10.600
<v Speaker 3>iron component of your blood, and so it was part

1684
01:45:10.640 --> 01:45:14.479
<v Speaker 3>of that, but this was not caused or not. They

1685
01:45:14.520 --> 01:45:19.439
<v Speaker 3>were not put inside chows either, although these kind of

1686
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:24.840
<v Speaker 3>things inspired the vampire legion, so it's very closely related

1687
01:45:25.039 --> 01:45:28.600
<v Speaker 3>and similar again to the vampire syndrome we talked about

1688
01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:30.000
<v Speaker 3>the vampire moon kids.

1689
01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:31.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's wild.

1690
01:45:32.800 --> 01:45:37.399
<v Speaker 3>So this one is very weird and I do not

1691
01:45:37.600 --> 01:45:43.199
<v Speaker 3>have a clue in hell how to say this. It

1692
01:45:43.479 --> 01:45:49.920
<v Speaker 3>looks like patchyantia maybe congenita, and it is thickened nails,

1693
01:45:50.560 --> 01:45:58.079
<v Speaker 3>painful callouses, and white patches inside the mouth. Its weird,

1694
01:45:59.479 --> 01:46:05.880
<v Speaker 3>has uh mutation in the keratin genes, and it's extremely

1695
01:46:06.079 --> 01:46:11.359
<v Speaker 3>extremely painful. But I guess you can get like and

1696
01:46:11.479 --> 01:46:16.600
<v Speaker 3>I've I've actually seen people with like the really thick

1697
01:46:16.840 --> 01:46:20.520
<v Speaker 3>nails before. Oh yeah, but they always called it, what

1698
01:46:20.760 --> 01:46:24.239
<v Speaker 3>was a on aco micosis or something like that, So

1699
01:46:25.439 --> 01:46:27.720
<v Speaker 3>was it really or was it this? I don't know

1700
01:46:27.920 --> 01:46:33.119
<v Speaker 3>because they're they're usually very thick like hooves and they're

1701
01:46:33.199 --> 01:46:35.600
<v Speaker 3>hard to cut. People would always come to us to

1702
01:46:35.720 --> 01:46:38.920
<v Speaker 3>try to have us like cut their nails and I'm like,

1703
01:46:40.600 --> 01:46:45.000
<v Speaker 3>outside of like a bone saw of for casting, I

1704
01:46:45.079 --> 01:46:46.239
<v Speaker 3>don't know what we would.

1705
01:46:46.119 --> 01:46:51.520
<v Speaker 2>Use because time to go to the podiatrist that yeah no.

1706
01:46:53.119 --> 01:46:59.199
<v Speaker 3>Or people that get callouses that are really excruciatingly painful

1707
01:46:59.359 --> 01:47:03.199
<v Speaker 3>and they're very thick. We've had patients like this where

1708
01:47:04.159 --> 01:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>we actually had to shave them with the razor blade.

1709
01:47:07.239 --> 01:47:09.359
<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, just shave the callous down.

1710
01:47:10.159 --> 01:47:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Ww So then you have.

1711
01:47:13.560 --> 01:47:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Callous flake solo.

1712
01:47:16.960 --> 01:47:19.359
<v Speaker 4>I would love to tell you the percentage, which should

1713
01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:22.560
<v Speaker 4>be a simple thing to retrieve and for any other disease.

1714
01:47:22.600 --> 01:47:25.319
<v Speaker 4>It is because I've been looking for more Gallon's disease

1715
01:47:25.319 --> 01:47:26.880
<v Speaker 4>since we spoke about it, and.

1716
01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:30.800
<v Speaker 2>It won't tell me. It's a controversial, but it will

1717
01:47:31.119 --> 01:47:35.760
<v Speaker 2>clear up into until twenty twenty. Of course, it's hard

1718
01:47:35.840 --> 01:47:39.359
<v Speaker 2>to track, but it's been tracked every year before.

1719
01:47:39.199 --> 01:47:42.239
<v Speaker 3>That, of course, but now all of a sudden it's

1720
01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:49.000
<v Speaker 3>it's woo wu. It's impossible now, yeah, so difficult, okay, whatever.

1721
01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:54.439
<v Speaker 3>So this is a very interesting thing. I've only seen

1722
01:47:54.520 --> 01:47:59.079
<v Speaker 3>it once. It's called like and plainness, and it's flat.

1723
01:47:59.479 --> 01:48:03.920
<v Speaker 3>It cheap purple bumps that often form in a lacy

1724
01:48:05.279 --> 01:48:11.199
<v Speaker 3>pattern on the skin with white patches in between. It's

1725
01:48:12.279 --> 01:48:15.560
<v Speaker 3>very strange. They also it also happens inside the mouth.

1726
01:48:16.600 --> 01:48:19.239
<v Speaker 3>The mouth is where I saw it, which was really weird.

1727
01:48:19.319 --> 01:48:26.720
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, whoa, So this is also an autoimmune in origin.

1728
01:48:26.880 --> 01:48:31.199
<v Speaker 3>They have no idea what causes it, but it literally

1729
01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:35.079
<v Speaker 3>does look like a lace pattern, like a doyley that

1730
01:48:35.199 --> 01:48:39.359
<v Speaker 3>your grandma would have on her side table.

1731
01:48:40.239 --> 01:48:44.760
<v Speaker 2>What Yeah, that's crazy. So on that on the tongue

1732
01:48:44.800 --> 01:48:46.920
<v Speaker 2>one and stuff. Are these all just autoimmune?

1733
01:48:49.600 --> 01:48:54.920
<v Speaker 3>That one? That one is, yeah, like and plainness is autoimmune?

1734
01:48:55.000 --> 01:48:58.439
<v Speaker 3>And that literally almost all of these things we talked

1735
01:48:58.439 --> 01:49:01.920
<v Speaker 3>about today were genetic and I think they're allly imune

1736
01:49:02.159 --> 01:49:05.800
<v Speaker 3>that were auto immune. And that was the bit of

1737
01:49:05.880 --> 01:49:10.479
<v Speaker 3>igo because they don't know what the underlying cause of

1738
01:49:10.640 --> 01:49:15.479
<v Speaker 3>the autoimmune disorder is, but they're gonna treat everybody the same.

1739
01:49:16.399 --> 01:49:17.560
<v Speaker 2>H wild.

1740
01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:21.840
<v Speaker 4>I bet it's wildly misdiagnosed, especially the oral one. I

1741
01:49:21.960 --> 01:49:25.000
<v Speaker 4>bet they just over and over say it's thrush rush yeh,

1742
01:49:25.279 --> 01:49:28.079
<v Speaker 4>you know, blah blah blah. And in this lacy one,

1743
01:49:28.119 --> 01:49:30.319
<v Speaker 4>I bet they. I bet they don't know unless you're

1744
01:49:30.319 --> 01:49:31.000
<v Speaker 4>a specialist.

1745
01:49:31.319 --> 01:49:34.640
<v Speaker 3>Like it was so weird because like I would go

1746
01:49:34.800 --> 01:49:36.760
<v Speaker 3>in and I would see a patient first and they

1747
01:49:36.760 --> 01:49:39.760
<v Speaker 3>would tell me like, you know, my throat hurts or whatever,

1748
01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:41.439
<v Speaker 3>and I'd go to look at it, and I'd be like,

1749
01:49:42.119 --> 01:49:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I've seen a lot of throats in my life. And

1750
01:49:44.079 --> 01:49:49.880
<v Speaker 3>I was like, holy molly, yeah, I'm like, dude, this

1751
01:49:50.159 --> 01:49:53.600
<v Speaker 3>is the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It literally looks

1752
01:49:53.720 --> 01:49:55.119
<v Speaker 3>like a lace pattern.

1753
01:49:55.640 --> 01:49:56.279
<v Speaker 2>In her mouth.

1754
01:49:57.039 --> 01:49:58.680
<v Speaker 3>And he went in and he's like, oh, do you

1755
01:49:58.760 --> 01:50:02.720
<v Speaker 3>know what that is? And I'm like, nope, no, idea. Yeah,

1756
01:50:03.239 --> 01:50:05.359
<v Speaker 3>they nailed it right off the bat. I had never

1757
01:50:05.439 --> 01:50:06.520
<v Speaker 3>even heard of it before.

1758
01:50:07.560 --> 01:50:11.359
<v Speaker 2>And geographical tongue, right, that's another fun one. Yeah, well,

1759
01:50:11.399 --> 01:50:15.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. There's a good one which just happens.

1760
01:50:15.600 --> 01:50:18.720
<v Speaker 2>It's been nigh. But it looks terrifying, like if you're

1761
01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>looking in mouse like we're talking about that. When you

1762
01:50:22.039 --> 01:50:24.319
<v Speaker 2>see that, you're like, what's going on there?

1763
01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:28.239
<v Speaker 3>I've seen some uper interesting things in my life, not

1764
01:50:28.399 --> 01:50:32.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna lie. Oh yeah, you know along with this stuff

1765
01:50:33.119 --> 01:50:37.399
<v Speaker 3>of course, like all kinds of rashes and warts and

1766
01:50:38.199 --> 01:50:43.840
<v Speaker 3>you know, everything under the sun, things that are contagious,

1767
01:50:44.119 --> 01:50:49.439
<v Speaker 3>things that are not contagious, fungal infections, parasites, you know,

1768
01:50:50.199 --> 01:50:51.600
<v Speaker 3>the parasites.

1769
01:50:51.000 --> 01:50:53.760
<v Speaker 4>Get me, man, I'm like, oh, that gives me the

1770
01:50:53.840 --> 01:50:57.000
<v Speaker 4>heaties for a while if somebody comes in and you're

1771
01:50:57.039 --> 01:50:58.279
<v Speaker 4>helping them, and even if.

1772
01:50:58.199 --> 01:51:00.439
<v Speaker 3>It's just like scabies, which is a we've had a

1773
01:51:00.479 --> 01:51:01.680
<v Speaker 3>lot of scabies people.

1774
01:51:02.159 --> 01:51:04.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's not the end all be all. It's curable

1775
01:51:04.399 --> 01:51:07.680
<v Speaker 4>and stuff, but I'm itching for like a month after that.

1776
01:51:08.079 --> 01:51:10.479
<v Speaker 4>Just you know, you're and you don't you.

1777
01:51:10.600 --> 01:51:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Thought it's the thought of it.

1778
01:51:13.479 --> 01:51:14.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's mister stupid.

1779
01:51:15.079 --> 01:51:20.560
<v Speaker 3>But I'm gonna I'm gonna share this with people. So

1780
01:51:20.720 --> 01:51:24.399
<v Speaker 3>if you don't know what scabies are, escape bees are

1781
01:51:25.359 --> 01:51:30.840
<v Speaker 3>like little mite type parasites. They get they burrow under

1782
01:51:30.920 --> 01:51:34.800
<v Speaker 3>your skin. It is usually in a straight line like

1783
01:51:34.840 --> 01:51:38.960
<v Speaker 3>a pencil. And the reason why it is so bad

1784
01:51:39.319 --> 01:51:43.760
<v Speaker 3>is because they pee and poop under your skin.

1785
01:51:44.079 --> 01:51:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Now I'm gonna be worse. I didn't know that hard.

1786
01:51:49.840 --> 01:51:53.439
<v Speaker 2>There are cures. Get in there, Go get rid of that.

1787
01:51:53.960 --> 01:51:59.119
<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh, what take care of the bugs? You wait?

1788
01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:03.119
<v Speaker 4>But kids get this all the time, you know. This

1789
01:52:03.279 --> 01:52:05.560
<v Speaker 4>is where I would mainly see things in the er,

1790
01:52:05.760 --> 01:52:08.239
<v Speaker 4>like little kids coming in with weird stuff like this

1791
01:52:08.560 --> 01:52:09.800
<v Speaker 4>just from the playground or.

1792
01:52:09.800 --> 01:52:18.479
<v Speaker 3>What we sell Moluscam contagiosum often in little kids or

1793
01:52:18.760 --> 01:52:24.520
<v Speaker 3>in uh like football players and stuff, and it causes

1794
01:52:24.720 --> 01:52:29.800
<v Speaker 3>little like warts all over your skin. They're little teeny warts,

1795
01:52:31.039 --> 01:52:37.640
<v Speaker 3>but they're highly contagious. And so because that is rampant

1796
01:52:37.760 --> 01:52:40.560
<v Speaker 3>in locker rooms and stuff, and.

1797
01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:46.520
<v Speaker 2>It's swimming pools, y'all, provided it wouldn't.

1798
01:52:46.199 --> 01:52:51.520
<v Speaker 3>Be uncommon to have like whole teams come in and

1799
01:52:51.800 --> 01:52:54.159
<v Speaker 3>have to get treatment, and they call them pedophla and

1800
01:52:54.359 --> 01:52:59.079
<v Speaker 3>drops and they are chocolate drops and it's it's like

1801
01:52:59.199 --> 01:53:02.319
<v Speaker 3>a brown acid that you have to put on these

1802
01:53:02.439 --> 01:53:03.159
<v Speaker 3>to burn them off.

1803
01:53:04.279 --> 01:53:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Jeez. So yeah, that none of that sounds fun.

1804
01:53:09.119 --> 01:53:12.159
<v Speaker 3>You can get them all over, even on the twinkie.

1805
01:53:12.960 --> 01:53:14.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, not the twinkie.

1806
01:53:14.520 --> 01:53:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Listen, when we tell if y'all want that special you guys,

1807
01:53:17.760 --> 01:53:21.239
<v Speaker 4>let us know, we'll talk about what can happen now

1808
01:53:21.520 --> 01:53:22.000
<v Speaker 4>you're young.

1809
01:53:22.239 --> 01:53:25.000
<v Speaker 2>It's good information to have. If you're old, it's probably

1810
01:53:25.039 --> 01:53:26.000
<v Speaker 2>too fucking late, but.

1811
01:53:28.319 --> 01:53:30.359
<v Speaker 3>You already have simplis. Don't worry about it.

1812
01:53:31.560 --> 01:53:33.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, all the good ones got simphless to the brain,

1813
01:53:34.000 --> 01:53:35.920
<v Speaker 4>like Howard Hughes simplest of the brain.

1814
01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:38.680
<v Speaker 2>Alcopine wasn't a good one, but you got simplest to

1815
01:53:38.720 --> 01:53:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the brain. But a lot of these really smart guys, right,

1816
01:53:41.760 --> 01:53:47.279
<v Speaker 2>or they just go cuckoo crazy like Meetschee. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah.

1817
01:53:47.439 --> 01:53:52.159
<v Speaker 3>I had one of my very first patients that I

1818
01:53:52.239 --> 01:53:54.880
<v Speaker 3>had to take care of when I was in school

1819
01:53:55.199 --> 01:53:59.479
<v Speaker 3>and on the rotation in the nursing home was a

1820
01:53:59.640 --> 01:54:02.319
<v Speaker 3>lady that was like, oh, I don't know, like eighty

1821
01:54:02.439 --> 01:54:07.880
<v Speaker 3>six at the time, that had syphilis. Oh because the

1822
01:54:08.039 --> 01:54:11.239
<v Speaker 3>town that I grew up in back in the day,

1823
01:54:12.079 --> 01:54:13.840
<v Speaker 3>they called it the red light district.

1824
01:54:14.319 --> 01:54:19.319
<v Speaker 2>Oh shit, So yeah, she had the oldest job in

1825
01:54:19.399 --> 01:54:22.439
<v Speaker 2>the world. And we're not knocking it. But back then,

1826
01:54:23.159 --> 01:54:24.840
<v Speaker 2>m would I do it?

1827
01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:28.880
<v Speaker 3>No, it was just unusual. I was like, this lady's

1828
01:54:28.920 --> 01:54:31.840
<v Speaker 3>in a nursing home and she has syphilis, Like, how

1829
01:54:31.920 --> 01:54:34.199
<v Speaker 3>did she get syphilis? That's weird, my gosh.

1830
01:54:34.600 --> 01:54:36.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.

1831
01:54:36.359 --> 01:54:37.920
<v Speaker 3>And she told me all about it.

1832
01:54:38.640 --> 01:54:41.880
<v Speaker 4>Oh well, at least she remembered getting it, because sometimes

1833
01:54:41.960 --> 01:54:46.159
<v Speaker 4>things like that, Sometimes bad things happen in places she shared.

1834
01:54:46.640 --> 01:54:49.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she shared a lot, like a little TMI.

1835
01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:52.159
<v Speaker 2>She shared a lot. You know.

1836
01:54:52.279 --> 01:54:55.520
<v Speaker 4>I had this really confused lady that I used to

1837
01:54:55.560 --> 01:54:58.239
<v Speaker 4>take care of, and she was fantastic. She her name

1838
01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:01.159
<v Speaker 4>was Gertie and she used to be a dancer. And

1839
01:55:01.319 --> 01:55:04.079
<v Speaker 4>she danced on like cruise ships, and she was pretty famous.

1840
01:55:04.239 --> 01:55:06.800
<v Speaker 2>And this one lady walked in front of her one day,

1841
01:55:07.079 --> 01:55:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and this girty had dementia and Gerty was always thirty.

1842
01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:17.800
<v Speaker 2>Gerty thirty right, and she wasn't she was old, but

1843
01:55:17.960 --> 01:55:21.479
<v Speaker 2>in her mind she was hot shit and she was thirty.

1844
01:55:21.760 --> 01:55:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And so she said to me, look at this fat

1845
01:55:24.880 --> 01:55:27.760
<v Speaker 2>ass lady walk in front of me. She was so mean,

1846
01:55:28.239 --> 01:55:30.800
<v Speaker 2>and she so the lady's butt was big, and every

1847
01:55:30.840 --> 01:55:33.119
<v Speaker 2>time she'd walk she'd say ka katunga.

1848
01:55:33.199 --> 01:55:35.279
<v Speaker 4>And I'm like trying to shut this lady up, right,

1849
01:55:35.439 --> 01:55:38.319
<v Speaker 4>Like I am seriously like having a moment. And I'm

1850
01:55:38.359 --> 01:55:40.720
<v Speaker 4>super Mormon at this time too. I'm like, stop, stop,

1851
01:55:40.840 --> 01:55:43.880
<v Speaker 4>what are you doing? And so she just she goes,

1852
01:55:44.279 --> 01:55:47.520
<v Speaker 4>I go, you know, Gert, you're not so great yourself.

1853
01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:50.000
<v Speaker 4>And she goes, I don't know what you're talking about.

1854
01:55:50.119 --> 01:55:54.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm thirty and I'm amazing. And I thought, well, I

1855
01:55:54.439 --> 01:55:56.159
<v Speaker 4>guess it's not the worst thing that can happen.

1856
01:55:56.279 --> 01:56:00.600
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, say, I love talking to old people

1857
01:56:00.800 --> 01:56:04.079
<v Speaker 3>because if they can recall, they can share the most

1858
01:56:04.359 --> 01:56:08.720
<v Speaker 3>interesting stories with you. Always. That was my favorite prior

1859
01:56:08.760 --> 01:56:13.119
<v Speaker 3>to the job. But I also was not a fan

1860
01:56:13.239 --> 01:56:15.079
<v Speaker 3>of working on the Alzheimer's wing.

1861
01:56:15.920 --> 01:56:18.720
<v Speaker 4>It's it's it's fine for the people, it's sad for

1862
01:56:18.840 --> 01:56:21.640
<v Speaker 4>the visitors. Like her husband, like Gert was fine. Okay,

1863
01:56:21.840 --> 01:56:24.520
<v Speaker 4>she was in her own land, and she was thirty

1864
01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:28.439
<v Speaker 4>and flirty and fabulous, right, but she wasn't married at thirty.

1865
01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:31.720
<v Speaker 4>So this man that had been married to her for

1866
01:56:31.880 --> 01:56:34.800
<v Speaker 4>most of her life, she didn't know who he was.

1867
01:56:35.319 --> 01:56:38.359
<v Speaker 4>And so you know, she would scream at him sometimes.

1868
01:56:38.079 --> 01:56:40.520
<v Speaker 2>Get out of my room, and like, who's this all?

1869
01:56:41.359 --> 01:56:43.039
<v Speaker 2>She was mean? She was kind of mean, but she

1870
01:56:43.159 --> 01:56:46.680
<v Speaker 2>was hilarious. And who's this old motherfucker in here? Like

1871
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:48.840
<v Speaker 2>he's old and ugly? Get him out of hair, like

1872
01:56:49.039 --> 01:56:51.199
<v Speaker 2>mean stuff to him. All that, and he just loved her,

1873
01:56:51.439 --> 01:56:54.039
<v Speaker 2>you know what. He didn't even care. He just loved

1874
01:56:54.079 --> 01:56:56.479
<v Speaker 2>her and loved her and her kids. She didn't know them,

1875
01:56:56.680 --> 01:56:58.680
<v Speaker 2>she I mean, she just didn't know anybody, you know.

1876
01:56:59.439 --> 01:57:00.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's said.

1877
01:57:01.319 --> 01:57:04.359
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that part was bad, but like I said, for her,

1878
01:57:04.760 --> 01:57:08.840
<v Speaker 4>that's only painful for others. For her, she was fine,

1879
01:57:09.239 --> 01:57:11.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, I mean, I hate to say it.

1880
01:57:11.960 --> 01:57:14.119
<v Speaker 3>It was living her best life actually.

1881
01:57:14.000 --> 01:57:15.920
<v Speaker 4>What she was thirty and she used to tell me,

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01:57:16.000 --> 01:57:18.960
<v Speaker 4>I'm thirty and flirty and fabulous. I don't know what

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<v Speaker 4>you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like old, like eighty and not that nebulous.

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<v Speaker 2>But she used to just torture that one lady. I

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01:57:31.560 --> 01:57:33.359
<v Speaker 2>don't know why she was so mean to that lady,

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01:57:33.439 --> 01:57:35.000
<v Speaker 2>but she had it out for that one lady, and

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01:57:35.079 --> 01:57:38.279
<v Speaker 2>that lady hated her back. But if somebody was saying

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01:57:38.359 --> 01:57:42.439
<v Speaker 2>katunga behind my ass every time I walked, I would

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01:57:42.479 --> 01:57:43.079
<v Speaker 2>be upset too.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just make a song about it. At my

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01:57:47.039 --> 01:57:48.439
<v Speaker 3>age now I don't really care.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, that's true, and she was older, but I

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01:57:51.479 --> 01:57:54.479
<v Speaker 2>you know this, that lady was pretty high strung. We'll

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<v Speaker 2>say that.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh but yeah, fun fun times. I was liked taking

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01:58:01.479 --> 01:58:03.159
<v Speaker 4>care of people in no matter if they're young or

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<v Speaker 4>old or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't do kids. So when I say young, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean not peeds. Yeah see I didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>I liked pads.

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01:58:12.039 --> 01:58:15.760
<v Speaker 2>That was that was you nick. You is fine, But

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01:58:15.880 --> 01:58:18.840
<v Speaker 2>when they know I'm coming for them, I'm out. Like

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<v Speaker 2>kids know, when.

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<v Speaker 4>They're brand new neonates, people are always like, oh, did

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<v Speaker 4>you feel so bad poking them in the head.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, they don't care. They just lay there.

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<v Speaker 2>They're super sick like they don't care. So no, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't feel bad. I was saving their life.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I didn't mind. I didn't mind the kids

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01:58:38.319 --> 01:58:41.880
<v Speaker 3>so much because I actually got really good at that

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01:58:42.039 --> 01:58:45.920
<v Speaker 3>because I would talk to them about cartoons or whatever first.

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<v Speaker 2>Do something to distract.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you're better at it than I. They always knew.

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<v Speaker 4>I think my nervousness like came through or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But trauma that's my jam. Not now. I do psych

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01:58:58.760 --> 01:59:00.600
<v Speaker 2>because my body, you know, doesn't like to.

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01:59:01.800 --> 01:59:04.960
<v Speaker 3>Because my body said, psych, you're not doing trauma anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it definitely did.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like, you want to break the rest of

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01:59:09.319 --> 01:59:11.760
<v Speaker 4>your back. Probably it's probably already broken, but I just

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01:59:11.840 --> 01:59:12.439
<v Speaker 4>don't know about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see if you can bend this way right.

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<v Speaker 2>Pain is relevant.

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01:59:17.520 --> 01:59:19.079
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you've always been in pain, that's a

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01:59:19.119 --> 01:59:21.319
<v Speaker 4>bad thing about Elers down most people or other people

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01:59:21.399 --> 01:59:22.079
<v Speaker 4>in chronic pain.

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<v Speaker 2>It really has to be bad to get past the

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<v Speaker 2>normal threshold to know.

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<v Speaker 4>And so like when I was a kid and I

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01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:34.880
<v Speaker 4>broke my ankle because I rolled it seventy two times

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01:59:34.920 --> 01:59:38.399
<v Speaker 4>because Eeler's DWN lost right, I walked on it for

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01:59:38.479 --> 01:59:40.479
<v Speaker 4>three days and before I knew it was even broken.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I was in pain. People were like, weren't

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<v Speaker 2>you hurting.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, well yeah, but it did break it good

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01:59:49.960 --> 01:59:52.079
<v Speaker 4>enough to get some scar tissue to hold it still,

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<v Speaker 4>so that was cool.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe you needed that, right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean I never broke it again, to be honest,

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02:00:01.000 --> 02:00:02.920
<v Speaker 4>and I had to have an MRI on it because

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<v Speaker 4>it's the same side as that student thing, and they

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02:00:06.560 --> 02:00:10.720
<v Speaker 4>put in there a piece is like dislocated off, like

1944
02:00:10.880 --> 02:00:14.199
<v Speaker 4>I broke it off, and so they're like, probably from

1945
02:00:14.239 --> 02:00:16.600
<v Speaker 4>an old break, and I'm like, you're probably right.

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02:00:17.479 --> 02:00:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Didn't want to heal it took. Like I think I

1947
02:00:19.479 --> 02:00:21.079
<v Speaker 2>was in a cast the whole year. That year it

1948
02:00:21.199 --> 02:00:24.279
<v Speaker 2>was lame and I was like nine, So it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>right at that time where you want to be active

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<v Speaker 2>and you're running, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can't imagine that anything from Eiler's Dan Lows would be

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<v Speaker 3>a longer recovery time.

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<v Speaker 2>That was forever.

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<v Speaker 4>It was like four fiberglass casts I think before it ever,

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<v Speaker 4>and then I think they just gave up. I think

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<v Speaker 4>they were like they were like, well, pick, she's walking

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<v Speaker 4>on it, she seems okay whatever, let her.

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<v Speaker 2>Go take the cast off. Yeah, that's all right. Well

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<v Speaker 2>this one was fun. What we going to do for

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<v Speaker 2>our next one. I can't remember. We got flu.

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<v Speaker 3>Flexibility and our no no uh skeletal stuff and enjoying twins.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yes, let's do that all right. Next time, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>have you send me yours like the way you have your.

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<v Speaker 4>Notes, and I will match the pictures to your notes

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<v Speaker 4>so we don't have to scramble around because that's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of hard.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we will get back with you guys on

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<v Speaker 2>that one.

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<v Speaker 4>And when it gets close to spooky season, we'll try

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<v Speaker 4>and find our most fed up one for y'all, because

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<v Speaker 4>that's why I.

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<v Speaker 2>Edited the F word there. I've already said it like

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<v Speaker 2>twice today.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever you're entitled, we're all a work in progress.

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<v Speaker 2>We're dope.

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, my beautiful friend, for being here for another

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02:01:56.319 --> 02:02:02.359
<v Speaker 3>lovely episode of side show Attractions and tell the good

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<v Speaker 3>ladies and gentlemen where they can bind you absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having me as always wonderful to collaborate

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<v Speaker 2>with my friend Janet, my bestie, and I.

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<v Speaker 4>Can actually collaborate and chat with her because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>she's one of the few people in the podcast world

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<v Speaker 4>that I know is a real human.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh JK, I am not an NPC's not.

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02:02:25.239 --> 02:02:28.119
<v Speaker 4>She's she's real. I'm telling you guys, check her out.

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<v Speaker 4>And so for those that don't know me or if

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<v Speaker 4>this is your first time seeing me, I'm Heidilove of

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<v Speaker 4>the Unfiltered Rise. I am everwhere podcasts are served. I

1989
02:02:36.520 --> 02:02:39.199
<v Speaker 4>have lots of guest appearances. If you put in Spotify,

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<v Speaker 4>Heidilove or Unfiltered Rise, you'll probably get a slew of

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<v Speaker 4>things coming up there. I do have my own website,

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<v Speaker 4>Unfiltered Rise podcast dot com. If you don't like podchasers

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<v Speaker 4>at all, you can go there. However, if you like Spotify,

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<v Speaker 4>I would love you to follow me on there, and

1995
02:02:53.880 --> 02:02:56.760
<v Speaker 4>if you can give me an Apple review, hopefully if

1996
02:02:56.800 --> 02:02:59.560
<v Speaker 4>it's a good one, because that's been brutal lately.

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<v Speaker 2>You go on big shows, you get big hate. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what happens.

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<v Speaker 3>That's true. But somebody's always got to be hating and

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<v Speaker 3>if they hate on me, they're leaving somebody else alone.

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<v Speaker 2>This is true. And Janet, just in case they don't know,

2002
02:03:13.840 --> 02:03:16.359
<v Speaker 2>because you're on my show, what, I'm nowhere to find

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<v Speaker 2>you as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, so I am deplorable Janet. You can find Deplorable

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<v Speaker 3>Dation on every podcast platform plus now videos on Spotify

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<v Speaker 3>also have a Rumble channel, so you can look it

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02:03:30.039 --> 02:03:33.479
<v Speaker 3>up on there if you want to hit me up

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02:03:33.560 --> 02:03:36.159
<v Speaker 3>with an idea for a show, or you want to

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02:03:36.279 --> 02:03:39.640
<v Speaker 3>come on to the show. You have testimony to give,

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02:03:39.760 --> 02:03:42.960
<v Speaker 3>you want to talk about medical stuff or a journey

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02:03:43.039 --> 02:03:45.880
<v Speaker 3>that you've had do so you can find me a

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02:03:46.119 --> 02:03:53.920
<v Speaker 3>deplorable Janet on Instagram and no Janet Kate now on Twitter.

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<v Speaker 4>Or x follow us, hit us up, give us reviews,

2014
02:03:57.720 --> 02:04:00.279
<v Speaker 4>give us likes. How we keep in the business and

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02:04:00.640 --> 02:04:04.560
<v Speaker 4>we're lonely ladies in the business, so keep it going.

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<v Speaker 3>And we're pretty fantastic. And I'm just gonna say I

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<v Speaker 3>like us, So there you go. Thanks you guys, for

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<v Speaker 3>me and for Heidi. Thanks for tuning in to another

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<v Speaker 3>episode and we'll see you next time. Have a good one.
