Speaker 1: Welcome to the Word of conspiracy. Step wild say you're
Speaker 1: a freaks.
Speaker 2: Step right up, ladies and gentlemen, jeretentious do the freak show.
Speaker 3: Freak Hi, and welcome back to another episode of Deplorable Nation.
Speaker 3: I'm your host, Deplorable Janet, and today I have my
Speaker 3: best day firm the West Day, returning the lovely, talented, intelligent,
Speaker 3: and superior Miss Heidi. How are you dolling?
Speaker 2: Thank you?
Speaker 4: Thank you for the wonderful comments, because apparently, according to
Speaker 4: my Apple reviews, I'm a stuck up Mormon lady.
Speaker 2: So that doesn't Oh that is a no at all.
Speaker 3: Oh well, we can't help it that we know everything here.
Speaker 2: Just no jep kidding.
Speaker 4: Actually, what we do, and I'm happy to be here
Speaker 4: to do it again, is we study a lot, and
Speaker 4: we pick these topics and we go down the rabbit
Speaker 4: hole because it's fun to learn and I think it's
Speaker 4: important for our brains to continue.
Speaker 3: I would agree with the So today we're going to
Speaker 3: be doing a part four of our Sideshow Attractions series,
Speaker 3: and today is Skin in the Game, and so we're
Speaker 3: going to be talking about all things weird and wild
Speaker 3: of the skin that were sideshow circuits attractions. Again, don't
Speaker 3: get your panties and a wide. Ladies and gentlemen, don't
Speaker 3: be a pansy because we're not saying anything bad. We're
Speaker 3: just saying these things happen. Sometimes things are kind of
Speaker 3: a freak of nature, if you will.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: Curiosity, people's curiosity draws attention to these things, right.
Speaker 4: And there will be photos, So disclaimer warning, whatever you
Speaker 4: want to say right now, there are pictures of children,
Speaker 4: medical photos. These are medical photos. This is not exploitation,
Speaker 4: but it is what it is. This comes from medical
Speaker 4: journals most of it. So we can't I always say
Speaker 4: pictures worth a thousand words with this type of stuff.
Speaker 2: It really is.
Speaker 4: So in fact, I didn't catch one of them that
Speaker 4: Janet caught and I wasn't ready, so when we get
Speaker 4: to that one, I was like, uh.
Speaker 2: Sir, holy shit.
Speaker 3: To put it mildly. And again, curiosity comes from people, right,
Speaker 3: And and what do we do if we're out in
Speaker 3: public and we see something that's unusual or something we
Speaker 3: weren't read it, we haven't seen before. It's not that
Speaker 3: we're trying to be rude and stare and whatever. We're
Speaker 3: just like, oh my gosh. Now for me, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 3: that looks painful or you know whatever, depending on whatever
Speaker 3: it is. So sometimes and not. We've both been in
Speaker 3: this business a long time. We've seen some stuff, right,
Speaker 3: but there's always you I haven't.
Speaker 4: For those of you that don't know, Janet and I
Speaker 4: are both registered nurses. We've been in the game very
Speaker 4: long time. Janet, how long have you been in Like
Speaker 4: we're in prison, nineteen ninety, yes, and I'm ninety nine.
Speaker 4: So we're right there and we've seen a lot of things.
Speaker 4: And that's why we do this show because I said
Speaker 4: to Janet, Hey, this is weird stuff that I was
Speaker 4: fascinated with in school.
Speaker 2: Can we like go down this weird rabbit hole of
Speaker 2: medical stuff? Because I mean, I can't talk like this
Speaker 2: with everybody so right, But like I said, I'll get
Speaker 2: when I get to it.
Speaker 4: That one I wasn't ready, but I'm pretty sure you
Speaker 4: might know. But I can pull up these pictures.
Speaker 2: We've got some awesome ones today, let me tell you what.
Speaker 3: And I love stuff like this. I love the weird,
Speaker 3: the wild and trauma. Trauma is literally my favorite thing.
Speaker 3: But I will say I'm gonna throw this out there.
Speaker 3: A lot of these skin things I have seen or
Speaker 3: heard of before because the teaching facility that I worked for,
Speaker 3: the doctor that you know I worked underneath, he loved
Speaker 3: doing skin stuff. And that is literally one of the
Speaker 3: things I learned when I started out that he would
Speaker 3: always call me in and go, what do you think
Speaker 3: this is?
Speaker 2: Oh? You had firsthand? That's cool. Yeah, I put this up.
Speaker 2: And so as we talk, I know you might be
Speaker 2: in a different order, but I just slapped him together.
Speaker 2: So hopefully that works.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's fine.
Speaker 4: I started with albinism, so all right, that'll work. Her
Speaker 4: hair is badass p s. I am a fan of
Speaker 4: the big Texas hair.
Speaker 3: Hey, that was eighties duce for me, right, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2: Could have done some crazy hair because you've got a
Speaker 2: lot of hair.
Speaker 3: I do have a lot of hair.
Speaker 2: Yeah, awesome. So this gale has a lot of hair.
Speaker 2: Can you see this photo?
Speaker 3: Okay, yep, I see it. And so there's a lady
Speaker 3: kind of dressed like Victorian esque, right, and she has
Speaker 3: this wild hair, a lot of hair, yes, and of course,
Speaker 3: white eyebrows, white hair, the whole nine yards. And so
Speaker 3: I have been around of a lot of people that
Speaker 3: have the same condition. Right, So this is from a
Speaker 3: lack of melanin and the skin, and so it's kind
Speaker 3: of like, melanin is what helps you to make color,
Speaker 3: whether it be your hair, your eyebrows, your eyelashes, whatever.
Speaker 3: These people are lacking. So everything that you're going to
Speaker 3: see on them is white, and generally speaking, their skin
Speaker 3: is uber uber white too.
Speaker 4: I think that the Mormons would love these people because
Speaker 4: they like white and delightsome.
Speaker 2: So that's a quote. But my so, my mom's husband,
Speaker 2: which is not my dad, my stepdad, he actually has
Speaker 2: two nieces that are full albinism with the pink eyes
Speaker 2: and everything, and actually he's Latino, which is really was
Speaker 2: really weird for them. They were like, whoa, what happened here?
Speaker 2: But it happens. It happens in all races, and I
Speaker 2: have a bunch of pictures for that as well. So well.
Speaker 3: And the terrible thing is, and people are probably gonna
Speaker 3: get squeally about this one, but because of people that
Speaker 3: have the albinism, Circus side shows capitalized on this in
Speaker 3: a big way because they would put them next to
Speaker 3: African American performers so they could contrast it as black
Speaker 3: and white. And please don't get mad for me, saying this,
Speaker 3: I'm quoting what the what the side show said. They
Speaker 3: were white negros. Yes, that is what they billed them
Speaker 3: as in the sideshow, So that was not me. I
Speaker 3: did not make that up on my own. That's what
Speaker 3: was said.
Speaker 2: So yes, and this is kind of an example of
Speaker 2: a darker skinned person. I'm not going to say the.
Speaker 4: One word, but you know y'all already heard it, and
Speaker 4: this isn't nowadays. I don't know if he puts color
Speaker 4: in his beard and stuff, but he is albino, and
Speaker 4: he is African American and so kind of fascinating.
Speaker 2: The worst one I saw.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you saw this one for the
Speaker 4: African American people, these twins, this story, now you got
Speaker 4: some explaining to do, Barnum explaining, because let me tell you,
Speaker 4: these kids were stolen, straight stolen.
Speaker 2: Like the mother did not know where these kids went.
Speaker 4: I think they were in a cafe or something, and
Speaker 4: the circus took them at like age six or something.
Speaker 2: And I was like, uh, that's something wild. Okay, what
Speaker 2: is that thing there?
Speaker 3: That kind of sounds familiar, doesn't it? Stealing things that
Speaker 3: don't belong to you so that you can make money.
Speaker 2: Well, we have been talking about that.
Speaker 4: In this case, they were literally stolen from their Virginia
Speaker 4: home and then they were told their mother was dead,
Speaker 4: and so this was like horrible. I can't And their
Speaker 4: last name is Muse. They called them the Muse twins,
Speaker 4: but I don't think they actually were twins. I think
Speaker 4: they were just really close in age. But they were
Speaker 4: told their mom died and that they had to live
Speaker 4: with them now. So because nobody else was there, they
Speaker 4: didn't have a dad and so yeah, the dad was
Speaker 4: philandering around.
Speaker 2: I kind of wonder if.
Speaker 3: The dad seldom. Yeah, so that's the first thing that
Speaker 3: popped into my head. So that's Echo and Echo Echo.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think that's their real names. And
Speaker 2: it just was really a weird story. And guess what.
Speaker 4: They end up going back to the town where they
Speaker 4: were stolen from eventually as adults in their twenties, and
Speaker 4: like I said, they thought their mother was dead, and
Speaker 4: the mother seen them and she fought to get those
Speaker 4: guys back even.
Speaker 2: Though they were adults. Like the circus tried to own
Speaker 2: them and they had a happy reunion, but it took
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 3: So flooding weaknessesness, It was very yeah, that is like
Speaker 3: super super sad that that that happened. But does that
Speaker 3: shock me with the culture and I meant that we
Speaker 3: live in today where there's a lot of missing children
Speaker 3: and for a lot of different purposes for making them.
Speaker 4: Yes, I agree on that, and definitely you know, we
Speaker 4: see that in all all phases of life.
Speaker 3: Well and kind of like we talked about and the
Speaker 3: sideshow one with the seafarer stuff is that there is
Speaker 3: a niche fetish community for literally everything on the planet.
Speaker 3: So with all the child exploitation and stuff that's out
Speaker 3: there in rampant right now, if they can find people
Speaker 3: to feed those fetishes, so that's better for them, right.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yep.
Speaker 4: This is kind of how my stepdad's nieces look. They've
Speaker 4: got the more pink eyes and a lot of times
Speaker 4: when that is an occurrence, they are blind, which is
Speaker 4: and they are they have permanent nice stagmus. And for
Speaker 4: people that don't know, that's just like when your eyes
Speaker 4: go really fast. And when I was young, it kind
Speaker 4: of scared me like, I.
Speaker 3: Well, oh my gosh, again staring right with curiosity because
Speaker 3: you've never seen it before and you're like, what the heck,
Speaker 3: what is that? Like, why is that happening? Why are
Speaker 3: their eyes doing Latin?
Speaker 4: I was like, hello, like what is going because I
Speaker 4: wasn't old enough to understand, right, Like, I was like,
Speaker 4: can that happen? They're white, and he was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's a thing. So random, really, I mean, they were
Speaker 4: super nice. They've lived full lives, they've had children, everything.
Speaker 3: So they the people that that I knew that had this,
Speaker 3: Like they didn't have the red eyes, but their eyes
Speaker 3: were like really really pale, really pale, like a very
Speaker 3: washed out like blue color.
Speaker 2: And I tried to get different all different ethnicities so
Speaker 2: we could see, you know, all the different people that
Speaker 2: have it, because it happens in everything.
Speaker 3: So I don't know where we're looking Asian mm hmm.
Speaker 2: Do you know how often it happens. I think it's
Speaker 2: fairly common.
Speaker 3: It's I think, if I'm not mistaken. One of the
Speaker 3: places that I read said that this is more common
Speaker 3: in Africa. Well, okay, yep, Sub Saharan Africa is the
Speaker 3: most common region for currencies.
Speaker 2: Wow. And so.
Speaker 3: Being that there's like a large percentage in that particular region,
Speaker 3: they marketed them as the human ghosts as well.
Speaker 2: Oh, these are some more Barnum twins. I hope you
Speaker 2: didn't steal them.
Speaker 3: As well, but well that would not surprise me. But
Speaker 3: you know, because a lot of the circus things that
Speaker 3: we've already done, like they were finding kids at like
Speaker 3: four and six years old and then they spend their
Speaker 3: entire life in the circus, in the circus.
Speaker 4: And we'll do one on circuses as well, you guys,
Speaker 4: probably midpoint we'll deep dive into that because it is
Speaker 4: a dark, dark story, and let alone, the origin of
Speaker 4: circuses is.
Speaker 2: Very occultish, so.
Speaker 4: Very strange, very strange, indeed. But these are the ones
Speaker 4: I pulled. I definitely found, you know, this would be
Speaker 4: probably one of the least ones I would say.
Speaker 2: I know that sounds harsh, but I mean it is
Speaker 2: what it is, like. I think this is more.
Speaker 4: Livable the blindness one isn't isn't as bad. Yes, they
Speaker 4: can there are some myths about albinism. Yes, they can
Speaker 4: dye their hair. Yes, it does work. It falls out
Speaker 4: fast right, just like gray hair. If you if you've
Speaker 4: ever dye of gray hair or light it usually absorbs
Speaker 4: super quick in but not with this type. They also,
Speaker 4: you know, can dye their eyebrows like they can look
Speaker 4: relatively quote unquote normal if they want to.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm not pushing that. I think they're beautiful the
Speaker 2: way they are. But there.
Speaker 3: Though, the ones with the with the red eyes are
Speaker 3: the most off putting to me because of that. And
Speaker 3: please don't get upset about this by any means, but
Speaker 3: they remind me of those white lab mice.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what I was gonna say. Oh my gosh, and.
Speaker 4: For a reason, right, I just think that it's something
Speaker 4: that you think of when you see this, because it isn't.
Speaker 4: It is the only other species I know of, at
Speaker 4: least that is relatively common to have white haired, peak eyes, right,
Speaker 4: And so whatever that is.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything. It's
Speaker 2: just it is. It is what it is. Yeah, So,
Speaker 2: but definitely the least offensive.
Speaker 3: Well, and you know why weird to me? Okay, The
Speaker 3: actual medical name for this is oculo cutaneous albinism. So
Speaker 3: oculo is the eye, right, and so cutaneous is the skin.
Speaker 3: So it automatically says in the actual medical title that
Speaker 3: it's an eye in skin condition.
Speaker 1: Mm.
Speaker 2: Okay, that makes complete sense.
Speaker 3: That's why the coloring in their eyes is different because
Speaker 3: the melonin is also required to give us pigmentation in
Speaker 3: our eye color.
Speaker 2: So you know, me, I like white skin or dark skin,
Speaker 2: one way or the other.
Speaker 4: And so I mean, I could see he ended up
Speaker 4: with somebody if they had a little red tint to it,
Speaker 4: if I wasn't married.
Speaker 2: Just saying the redheaded one, he was pretty cute. I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, hey.
Speaker 3: Look at me with those beady little eyes.
Speaker 2: Mister. Yeah, I'm like, I'm just saying, but good thing
Speaker 2: I'm taking up. You know, my husband's right white albino.
Speaker 3: He is not, No, he's not.
Speaker 4: He likes to make jokes about that. He's like whatever,
Speaker 4: But the white eyebrows are kind of cool. My husband
Speaker 4: has white eyebrows. My daughter keeps saying, when are my
Speaker 4: eyebrows going to come in? And I'm like, I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: You're a child of a never dirty blonde and a redhead.
Speaker 4: Yeah she's eleven.
Speaker 2: We're still way and I'm gonna teach you how to
Speaker 2: draw on. That was the one thing Sam Tripoli said
Speaker 2: to me. I don't know if you watched it, that
Speaker 2: was really funny. The show opens up with him saying,
Speaker 2: I love your eyebrows, and I was like, weird cool like,
Speaker 2: and he's like, they're dark with the blonde hair.
Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, when you are blondish, not that my
Speaker 4: hair is this blonde, but it is naturally dirty blonde
Speaker 4: that you don't have a lot of eyebrows, so you
Speaker 4: learn to get good at the eyebrows and you never why.
Speaker 3: It's funny. It's like when I was growing up, mine
Speaker 3: was like dirty blonde. I call it dishwater blonde.
Speaker 2: Dishwater blonde.
Speaker 3: And like, my hair has changed color so many times
Speaker 3: over the year because I was when I was born,
Speaker 3: it was jet black. Oh really, and then it turned
Speaker 3: to the dirty dishwater blonde thing, and now it's brown
Speaker 3: and this is like God's thing, and so like, even
Speaker 3: my eyebrows and stuff have changed color. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on with me, but obviously
Speaker 3: I'm a freaking nature.
Speaker 2: Hey, I take it. I like your hair color. I
Speaker 2: think it looks like auburn. I think it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got it's got a little bit of red
Speaker 3: and a little bit of blonde in it, and of
Speaker 3: course I like it, you know, I like it. Well,
Speaker 3: keep my gray.
Speaker 2: We're not young ends.
Speaker 4: I just did have another birthday. Next year, I'm going
Speaker 4: to really celebrate because i'll be fifty. But yeah, when
Speaker 4: I see you and I'm okay, I'm okay.
Speaker 3: This year, I'm going to celebrate with that Denny's Senior
Speaker 3: Citizen discount that I get nowadays. So there you go.
Speaker 4: You don't look it, so it's cheating. Yeah, it's cheating.
Speaker 4: Don't be like, show me your license, lady. So the
Speaker 4: next one I have on the roster is very scary
Speaker 4: and sad. But this is the vampire syndrome one. Uh,
Speaker 4: and I can't remember the real name for it. I
Speaker 4: can look, well moon children vampires are moon children they were.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta find it because there's so many different
Speaker 3: ones here. It is it is zero derma pigmentosum.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes. And this one is sad.
Speaker 4: They cannot go outside in the sun or they like
Speaker 4: burn to death. Like this is burns from like barely
Speaker 4: any sunlight.
Speaker 3: Right, And this this girl that we're looking at not
Speaker 3: only has like severe burns and things on her face,
Speaker 3: but also, uh, the sclera, the white of the eyes
Speaker 3: is also burnt.
Speaker 4: Yes, and it's it's actually they get these freckles after
Speaker 4: they go out in the sun. Like for no amount
Speaker 4: of time whatsoever, and they scar them like the burning
Speaker 4: and the scar it's it's bad because we're going to
Speaker 4: see this next picture, see how her arms and stuff are.
Speaker 4: She she knows now, so she only goes out at
Speaker 4: nighttime at this point. This is really prevalent in India,
Speaker 4: which is weird. Yeah, and so she knows. And they
Speaker 4: call it the children of India at Night or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: And so well, and this one is a DNA repair disorder.
Speaker 3: It says it's caused by mutations and nucleotide excision repair
Speaker 3: genes and so the skin cannot heal or repair itself
Speaker 3: and so it causes this, uh, like scarring happened.
Speaker 2: That is like keloid scars.
Speaker 4: They're kind of This one I think shows it the
Speaker 4: best that these are like keelois because which if if
Speaker 4: you guys don't know, cheloids are just like bumpy scars,
Speaker 4: any scar that's raised to a certain level. And so
Speaker 4: she has them kind of everywhere from I would assume,
Speaker 4: not knowing, you know, as a kid.
Speaker 2: I think this is her as well. I think this
Speaker 2: is her.
Speaker 3: Later, so it says with this particular condition that not
Speaker 3: only is the immediate burning an issue, but it is
Speaker 3: also closely associated with major neurological complications, which would make sense,
Speaker 3: especially if it is frying the white of your eye
Speaker 3: because to your cranial nerves and stuff, and you have
Speaker 3: a lot of nerves controlling your facial movements and all
Speaker 3: of that stuff. And so I can imagine like that
Speaker 3: all the neurological problems that could take place because of this.
Speaker 4: And they have a sixty percent higher skin cancer of course,
Speaker 4: you know occurrence, which makes sense. I mean, but the
Speaker 4: eyes even seem like they they have that glossed over yeah,
Speaker 4: cataract yep.
Speaker 3: So if you ever see people like this, I've actually
Speaker 3: seen one person with this during my tenure at the
Speaker 3: Teaching hospital, and it's very interesting because they literally have
Speaker 3: to either never go out in the sun, never go
Speaker 3: out during the daytime, or they have to completely cover
Speaker 3: from hedge toe so that there's no exposed skin. So
Speaker 3: if you ever see anybody that's wearing like long sleep shirt,
Speaker 3: long pants, gloves, hat that get the gators, the face gators,
Speaker 3: net gators, that's probably somebody that has this condition.
Speaker 4: Wow, And it just looks I mean, if you didn't know,
Speaker 4: like all of this scarring and stuff would occur super early,
Speaker 4: you know, and then I mean obviously after you know,
Speaker 4: you wouldn't go. It does cause rickets too because they
Speaker 4: don't have vitamin D ever from the sun.
Speaker 2: Oh, they get all these problems that would be terrible.
Speaker 4: She said, she has often broken her bones and her
Speaker 4: dad was carrying her down the stairs in the article
Speaker 4: I was reading about it because she had again broken
Speaker 4: one of her bones, which and.
Speaker 3: I could say that because if you can't absorb the
Speaker 3: vitamin D through your skin, then you can't absorb vitamin
Speaker 3: C and the other vitamins that are necessary for that either.
Speaker 4: So yes, and this one I wanted to make sure
Speaker 4: and include this is a vitaligo, and vitel igo can
Speaker 4: happen also with any color of person. This girl looks
Speaker 4: maybe somewhat Asian but dye her hair, or possibly just Caucasian,
Speaker 4: but it does happen to white people.
Speaker 2: Also. I think this has kind of been labeled as
Speaker 2: like a black person thing, and it's not, you know.
Speaker 3: It's it's litteral anybody in the world, which most I
Speaker 3: will say most of the patients that we saw and
Speaker 3: traded for this were African American. I never saw a
Speaker 3: case of an Indian one in our office, but we
Speaker 3: did have one one Caucasian person.
Speaker 4: This one is a Caucasian little boy and you can
Speaker 4: tell naturally he's quite tan, you know, but the white
Speaker 4: in between is very like pronounced, it's very white like extreme,
Speaker 4: and I mean it's pretty disfiguring. Although people I think
Speaker 4: this is more out there right now a days, like
Speaker 4: my daughter has a Barbie.
Speaker 2: With this so because she has some issues with Cafe
Speaker 2: l A spots, which we'll get to here soon. But
Speaker 2: this one was, uh, yeah, she was one of the
Speaker 2: famous famous girls. Think they called her Leopard Girl or something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's one of the pictures that I actually have
Speaker 3: on the thumbnail for the episode. So for people that
Speaker 3: don't know, vetta laigo is a loss of pigment in
Speaker 3: the skin causing severe white patches. And so yes, even
Speaker 3: if you're white, you can get the white patches because
Speaker 3: the melanin and stuff in your skin is absent in
Speaker 3: those areas. And they think they're pretty sure that this
Speaker 3: is an autoimmune disease that causes the destruction of the
Speaker 3: melanocytes and so it's autoimmune.
Speaker 2: They can I know, they've been treating it differently as
Speaker 2: of recently too. I think they're giving them different rejection me.
Speaker 3: Oops, yeah, I just said a oh you're good a
Speaker 3: brand name. Sorry about that.
Speaker 2: Oh, we've done it before, so and I've heard it.
Speaker 4: It's like giving people back their color, like returning their color,
Speaker 4: which is wild to supposedly.
Speaker 3: But here's my thing with the autoimmune diseases. There's always
Speaker 3: some kind of underlying cause that's causing the complication or
Speaker 3: the problem to exist in the first place. So a
Speaker 3: one size fits all treatment for people is not going
Speaker 3: to help everybody obviously, because there's something different and every
Speaker 3: person that is causing that to happen. Yeah, So how
Speaker 3: effective are those meds.
Speaker 2: Going to be? You don't know, We don't know and
Speaker 2: at what cost? Right? This is her as she's a
Speaker 2: younger person. I think so a lot of.
Speaker 3: Times when when the circus build these people, they it
Speaker 3: be Leopard men, spotted boys, Leopard girl, stuff like that,
Speaker 3: or there was something else. It was some crazy off
Speaker 3: the wall name and I'm like, what, like, where would
Speaker 3: you even call them that? Call it that? But okay, whatever,
Speaker 3: that's Yeah, that's sad.
Speaker 2: This one.
Speaker 4: Also on this next one, it's a similar and I
Speaker 4: wanted to put it next to it because it's also
Speaker 4: leopard like under the leopard diagnosis, it's more of a
Speaker 4: Noonan's syndrome and it's it's not.
Speaker 2: The same thing.
Speaker 4: But they are very spotted as well, and they're pointing
Speaker 4: the arrow because that's a melanoma.
Speaker 3: And so I was gonna say, this is hold on,
Speaker 3: you're good because we have had this as well. Let
Speaker 3: me find it because there are so many.
Speaker 2: There is a lot on skin.
Speaker 4: I was able to really find a lot of cool
Speaker 4: slides like on these because I mean, there's no way
Speaker 4: we could explain this to you guys perfectly without showing you.
Speaker 2: So they're all similar but different.
Speaker 3: This has something to do with moles. Oh, I have
Speaker 3: this my notes. I just have to find it because
Speaker 3: I have. I have like twelve pages of notes.
Speaker 2: So next time I got to get Janet's numbers and
Speaker 2: do them in order so I don't mess her up.
Speaker 2: Let's see spotted syndrome. I'll look as well so that
Speaker 2: we can let's see it is on.
Speaker 3: Okay, So.
Speaker 2: I think they literally call it leopards And there.
Speaker 3: Is linear epidermal nevus syndrome that shows up as wart
Speaker 3: like often pigmented skin lesion or lesions that follow the
Speaker 3: lines of embryonic cell development and commously dismissed as birthmarks,
Speaker 3: especially if it's just a smaller patch than this one is.
Speaker 3: But there's also another one that.
Speaker 2: Is Newnan's syndrome. Is one of them that this particular
Speaker 2: man's photo says, this is Newnan syndrome, but they're pointing
Speaker 2: out the the melanoma there in that photo.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what the one that I just read said
Speaker 3: that they are at a greater risk for melanoma. There's
Speaker 3: actually two congenital melanocidic nevus or giant mole syndrome, which
Speaker 3: that guy had very large moles on there.
Speaker 2: This one too, I think is what you're might be.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it says with the congingital melanocidic nevus, it
Speaker 3: says large dark, often hairy patches. So holy moly maha.
Speaker 3: I always think of that Larry the Cable Eyes where
Speaker 3: I heard that from his girlfriend, hollly Moly. So this
Speaker 3: says that large, dark, often hairy patches can cover up
Speaker 3: to eighty percent of the body. It's caused by mutations
Speaker 3: during fetal development, with an extremely high risk of melanoma.
Speaker 2: Oh, wow.
Speaker 4: And these can often be mistaken for the same thing.
Speaker 4: But these are Cafe o'lay spot and this one I
Speaker 4: do know a little bit about. This is often with
Speaker 4: NF one or you know, there's two types. There's n
Speaker 4: F two and NF one, but NF one should have
Speaker 4: And I was gonna put this in here, but if
Speaker 4: you think of the freckles that guy had all over
Speaker 4: on that last syndrome, underneath their armpits or their folds,
Speaker 4: like in your elbows, or your knees and your knee
Speaker 4: pits right like your thigh whatever, anywhere where skin rubs,
Speaker 4: they get that really dark freckling like the other guy had,
Speaker 4: but just in those areas with these spots, because there's
Speaker 4: criteria that you have to meet.
Speaker 2: My daughter was diagnosed with NF one.
Speaker 4: She has about ten or twelve of these spots, just
Speaker 4: like this kid, and she had them before she was
Speaker 4: three months and they said, oh, well, she just has
Speaker 4: enough one and the more I research, I don't think so,
Speaker 4: because she doesn't have the freckling of the armpits. And
Speaker 4: also you're supposed to have lish nodules your eyes, which
Speaker 4: they try and look for every single year for her.
Speaker 4: But she's never had them, and then it can go
Speaker 4: very badly, which we're gonna get into on the next
Speaker 4: little segment here.
Speaker 2: It's a situation you guys like the goodies to come
Speaker 2: brace yourself.
Speaker 4: This is also considered only the minor, like it is severe,
Speaker 4: but it is, but it isn't, because we're gonna show
Speaker 4: you it can get way worse. You'll see these people
Speaker 4: and sometimes it will look like the moles. That's why
Speaker 4: I brought it up now, because it can be misdiagnosed
Speaker 4: for a little while, but these gross cannot be removed really, right,
Speaker 4: they get worse.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And this is what we're looking at is neurofibromatosis,
Speaker 3: and it's tumor gleros tumor gross along the nerves in
Speaker 3: the skin, and so it creates large clumpy nodules or clusters.
Speaker 3: A lot of times they'll they'll hang in particular areas
Speaker 3: and so they hang like grapes. The thing about neurofibromatosis
Speaker 3: is that because they follow the nerve paths, capillaries also
Speaker 3: follow the nerve paths, which is your blood supply, which
Speaker 3: is what continues to feed them all the time. And
Speaker 3: if they do like lasering, Like lasering is the only
Speaker 3: way to remove these, but when they laser them, they
Speaker 3: will come back because it's fed along that same capillary
Speaker 3: nerve pathway.
Speaker 4: So but I think I would still opt. When you
Speaker 4: said hang like grapes, I wanted to bring this photo
Speaker 4: out even though this would considered NFT because it's so severe.
Speaker 4: But I mean at the point that it starts to
Speaker 4: affect you in your facial area, and we're going to
Speaker 4: talk about one of the most famous here in a minute.
Speaker 2: You know, it's just sad. I just think that, like
Speaker 2: I would opt regardless, you know, I don't know. It
Speaker 2: just seems like it would impede your life so bad.
Speaker 3: There are some people that I've seen that have this
Speaker 3: that it's not terrible, it's just in like certain areas
Speaker 3: or certain places. But I've also seen patients that are
Speaker 3: literally covered from head to toe. It's on their eyelids,
Speaker 3: it's literally everywhere, and so sad.
Speaker 4: And usually if you're going to see NF one become severe,
Speaker 4: it will be around puberty. Not always a lot of
Speaker 4: times people just have the cafe olet spots and that's it.
Speaker 4: But now, like I said, they're changing criteria and there's
Speaker 4: saying no, that's it's not the same thing because it.
Speaker 2: Spot a lady apparently my daughter.
Speaker 4: We've just told her that's where angels kissed her and
Speaker 4: you know, because they loved her so much.
Speaker 2: Because you've got to deal with it.
Speaker 4: Like they're they're all I mean, they're visible, you know,
Speaker 4: not on her face, like if she's in a bathing
Speaker 4: suit or something. Yeah, they're they're they're flat, they're like
Speaker 4: the other pictures. But when it advances into this NF two,
Speaker 4: it doesn't have These people aren't born like this. This
Speaker 4: is the hardest part I think of this disease is
Speaker 4: it goes from you know, your normal kid and then
Speaker 4: by like two years old, if it's going to advance
Speaker 4: into this NF too, like the elephant man, they said
Speaker 4: around two years old, it started affecting his lips first,
Speaker 4: and so started having gross on his lips and then
Speaker 4: you know, everything started going more and more and more.
Speaker 4: And Okay, I have to say this part, and this
Speaker 4: is so sad. He's normal in one area of his
Speaker 4: body and that's his dick. Okay, Like I'm trying not
Speaker 4: to be crassyer people, but I'm just saying his squeaky stick.
Speaker 4: His Twinkie stick is fine, And I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 4: is that like a curse to have your whole body
Speaker 4: is super cuckoo crazy? And then the one thing, I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm glad it works for his urine gentro urinary system.
Speaker 2: But like he's ever going to be okay.
Speaker 3: So looking at this picture like it's him, uh from
Speaker 3: a side view, and you can see like these neurofibromatosis
Speaker 3: tumors are literally hanging like a cluster. It looks like
Speaker 3: a giant brain sagging off of his butt. And because
Speaker 3: these run around.
Speaker 2: It's like the cow water.
Speaker 3: It's because these run around neural pathway. I can't imagine
Speaker 3: the pain that he would have if he even tried
Speaker 3: to sit down.
Speaker 2: Well, they said, the only way. I don't know. Are
Speaker 2: you going to go into his backstory at all? Or
Speaker 2: shall shall?
Speaker 3: I yeah you can.
Speaker 4: It's sad, So I mean people probably may have seen
Speaker 4: his movie. But the sad part is is his mom
Speaker 4: treated him very well and loved him. Like I said,
Speaker 4: he was born normal and so this didn't happen until
Speaker 4: later about eighteen months is when things started getting weird.
Speaker 4: And then his mom dies, like the worst thing ever,
Speaker 4: because his dad was not very nice. And then he
Speaker 4: gets remarried and has all these other kids and they're
Speaker 4: all fine, like totally fine, and so he feels completely
Speaker 4: like crap, you know, and sees that they're all more
Speaker 4: handsome and normal. He can't communicate because since it started
Speaker 4: messing with his oral area, like he couldn't talk at all,
Speaker 4: and like he could mumble, but nobody understood him ever,
Speaker 4: and it was very sad. But they said his emotional
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously it was intact, like his brain was intact.
Speaker 2: He wasn't dumb.
Speaker 4: But these people treated him so badly because, like Janet said,
Speaker 4: he's in a ton of pain. These are extra this
Speaker 4: isn't extremely painful disease, and back then they I don't
Speaker 4: even know what they would do, but they didn't do
Speaker 4: anything for him, and they sent him to work, and
Speaker 4: since he couldn't work, like I guess other people, his
Speaker 4: dad would beat him and so he did run away.
Speaker 4: And he was one of the people that I feel
Speaker 4: the circus saved because while he was a sideshow piece
Speaker 4: in the circus, it was literally the only thing he
Speaker 4: could do without causing great pain because otherwise he was
Speaker 4: working in these workhouses and.
Speaker 2: All this sad stuff. But then they stole his money
Speaker 2: and abandoned.
Speaker 4: And luckily the doctor that took care of him was
Speaker 4: very kind to him because when he came back and
Speaker 4: he didn't have any money or anything, I guess he
Speaker 4: was it was during a time when they were like no.
Speaker 2: More freak shows. That's weird.
Speaker 4: Well, it left him without a way to do anything,
Speaker 4: and so even if he stood on the corner, he
Speaker 4: had nowhere to go.
Speaker 2: He was homeless. At this point. He was like making
Speaker 2: a ruckus.
Speaker 4: So they took him to the hospital and the doctor
Speaker 4: like kind of saved him, but he literally asphyxiated himself.
Speaker 2: That's how he died.
Speaker 4: Because he couldn't even sleep laying down because these were
Speaker 4: so bad. He slept sitting and he would take his
Speaker 4: legs they said, I'm assuming they mean like pelvis, but
Speaker 4: area I don't know, because legs didn't look so bad,
Speaker 4: but regardless, I don't know, And he would sleep on
Speaker 4: the folds of his skin, sitting up, and I guess
Speaker 4: he just slipped and like is he's suffocated in his
Speaker 4: own skin.
Speaker 3: Which is really really uh disturbing if you think about that,
Speaker 3: because if you if you see pictures of this and
Speaker 3: who we're talking about, uh was Joseph Merrick a k A.
Speaker 3: You know, the elephant Man. So these have I mean
Speaker 3: he has his left arm is normal or looks kind
Speaker 3: of normal because of these overgrowths and stuff. And with
Speaker 3: a lot of these people, especially with this and with
Speaker 3: proteus syndrome and stuff, they have multiple different conditions at once.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 3: There is a couple people that we talked about in
Speaker 3: previous episodes that have more than one condition. And that's
Speaker 3: what it looks like with him because his hand, his
Speaker 3: right hand kind of looks like a lobster cloish type
Speaker 3: like we talked about on episode one. And his chest
Speaker 3: is very distorted in this picture, and so you can
Speaker 3: see like the left breast and nipple the right one
Speaker 3: is gone because of this hanging, narrow fried brow mirtosis.
Speaker 2: So sad. He looks like he has quite a bad
Speaker 2: scoliosis too. I think if I read right, they have that,
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of an adjunct to the Elephant Man.
Speaker 2: But it's just sad.
Speaker 4: He's not the only one that had it. This isn't
Speaker 4: actually the elephant Man. His mouth was so distorted that
Speaker 4: he couldn't even like this guy is another person that
Speaker 4: was famous that played the Elephant Man, and I can't
Speaker 4: remember his name, but it was you if you can
Speaker 4: see here, like his mouth has got a lot of problems,
Speaker 4: and the other guy it didn't seem quite as severe,
Speaker 4: even though I mean it would be.
Speaker 3: It would be really difficult, especially with the with the
Speaker 3: severe facial narrow fibromintosis tumors, like because you have a
Speaker 3: lot of nerves in your mouth, right and so following
Speaker 3: those pathways and whatever, it would be very difficult to eat,
Speaker 3: to swallow any of that stuff because nerves run literally
Speaker 3: all through your body.
Speaker 4: Well, And I liked this photo because somebody recolorized it,
Speaker 4: and I think it adds a little bit more humanity
Speaker 4: to how he looked. I I did wonder one thing,
Speaker 4: and maybe that's because I have a dark mind. If
Speaker 4: somebody killed him in the hospital, because asphyxia is weird,
Speaker 4: like they did say his neck was like contorted as well,
Speaker 4: And I'm like, I just I get it, Like I
Speaker 4: don't think anybody should do that, but it might have
Speaker 4: been a humanity thing. He may have asked them to
Speaker 4: kill him, is what I'm saying, because he was really depressed.
Speaker 4: And I will say this for the story that I read.
Speaker 4: The only memories he had of women were from books
Speaker 4: he could read. He was smart from his mother's very
Speaker 4: minuscule memories. And the doctor paid a woman who was
Speaker 4: a widow to come in and just talk to him
Speaker 4: and visit with him, and he bawled his head off
Speaker 4: because people had shamed him and treated him so terribly.
Speaker 4: This case is one where I have to say, it's
Speaker 4: actually sad he couldn't be in a freak show because
Speaker 4: when he was, he had community and money and he
Speaker 4: was able to have a life, whereas when he couldn't,
Speaker 4: he was homeless and nobody cared.
Speaker 2: And people say, oh, that's so sad, but like nobody's
Speaker 2: taking care of these people.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's so sad, but like nobody cared, so, you know,
Speaker 4: Thank heavens, he had a doctor that did put him
Speaker 4: in the attic of the hospital to live until he died.
Speaker 3: And I think that's kind of par for the course
Speaker 3: with a lot of these like side performers or whatnot,
Speaker 3: that their life or family, I guess you could say,
Speaker 3: was while they were performing, you know, being whether it
Speaker 3: was exploitative or not. Is beside the point because when
Speaker 3: they were done with that, then they were done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like who's going to take care of them?
Speaker 4: And that's where I find it really sad, because I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: everybody's all gung ho for like let's you know, not
Speaker 4: do that, but then what are you doing to them?
Speaker 4: So at least there, you know, he even was taking
Speaker 4: he was fed, like he literally didn't have people to
Speaker 4: feed and help him like that. That was a major level.
Speaker 4: And to Janet's point, those severe tumors, they smelled, they
Speaker 4: were infected, they the skin never coming up like I'm
Speaker 4: sure they didn't know the things we know now and
Speaker 4: hygiene and all the things.
Speaker 2: So I'm grateful that his doctor was a good, good
Speaker 2: enough guy to you know, step in.
Speaker 3: And to that point, it would be very hard to
Speaker 3: even wash around a lot of those areas, crevice creases, whatever,
Speaker 3: and it would be really difficult, I would think, to
Speaker 3: sit infection in a bathtub, And so you're relying on
Speaker 3: someone to sponge bathe, you.
Speaker 5: Probably not going to be the cleanest, no, And they
Speaker 5: didn't know the things or have the things that we
Speaker 5: of course have today, like just simple basic things like
Speaker 5: nice statin or powders or whatever.
Speaker 2: But this one is on the borderline of the two.
Speaker 4: And that's why I wanted to put this one in
Speaker 4: because as severe as it is, it is not elephant
Speaker 4: man severe. So I think they still kind of diagnose
Speaker 4: this as a severe enough one, which is so sad.
Speaker 4: I mean, because he doesn't have the facial you know,
Speaker 4: the face stuff going on, like where it's the.
Speaker 2: Big, huge tumors.
Speaker 4: Right, it's not the drooping but if you notice, like
Speaker 4: a lot of times it will go down the spinal
Speaker 4: cord and different things or be over like organs, and.
Speaker 2: They're so hard. These are not like little squishy things.
Speaker 2: These these hurt.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're solid.
Speaker 4: So you know, this one I always found just so
Speaker 4: horribly sad. I mean, if you can imagine when we
Speaker 4: got the diagnosis, we completely lost our minds. But at
Speaker 4: this point, like I said, I think a they've misdiagnosed.
Speaker 2: It, even if not be she was lucky so just
Speaker 2: has the little birthmarks and that's all we've had to
Speaker 2: deal with.
Speaker 4: But it was terrifying. It's terrifying for a good seven years,
Speaker 4: like you just are waiting for things to pop up.
Speaker 4: And yeah, it was scary and she also had a
Speaker 4: severe heart issue with that.
Speaker 2: And she was criteria for surgery.
Speaker 4: Hers was on the pulmonary side, and the atrium is
Speaker 4: much more intensive and usually has to be fixed. And
Speaker 4: so she had a pulmonary valve defect that was, like
Speaker 4: I said, criteria to fix. But they waited because they said,
Speaker 4: sometimes these people are short of stature. That's one of
Speaker 4: the things with n F one is usually they're shorter.
Speaker 2: And he said, it might, it might catch up, and
Speaker 2: we might she'll always have it, but it might get better, right,
Speaker 2: a little better. Well, when she was about eight, we
Speaker 2: went in and he said, you don't even have to
Speaker 2: come back yearly anymore. It closed and we don't know
Speaker 2: how it's gone. So I know how miracles, yes, ma'am, Yes, God,
Speaker 2: God definitely works, and so we definitely have done much
Speaker 2: praying for her.
Speaker 4: And her name is Faith and so you know, pretty
Speaker 4: special kid all the way around for sure. And so
Speaker 4: and for these people, you know a lot of times
Speaker 4: also the bad like the bad masses come later, so.
Speaker 2: They usually are able to get married and like all that.
Speaker 4: Before it gets severe, like they might have one or
Speaker 4: two right, like a big like a couple of big ones.
Speaker 4: Like I've seen most of the time, like right here,
Speaker 4: all these people are like right here, it's really knows. Yeah,
Speaker 4: when they're younger, it seems like, you know, just a
Speaker 4: few spots. And I do have a lady that I
Speaker 4: work with as well that has this, not to this level,
Speaker 4: but it's like maybe a medium case. And she said
Speaker 4: they got really bad with her pregnancies and then they
Speaker 4: didn't go away. But she's probably about a little less
Speaker 4: than this level. But she did say, you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't even know I got married. I just thought I
Speaker 4: had some moles, you know. So they are flush colored,
Speaker 4: not usually dark or anything.
Speaker 3: Well, and the picture that we're looking at right now
Speaker 3: is an Endian lady. And you know when I said earlier,
Speaker 3: they hang like clusters and a lot of times in
Speaker 3: a lot out of places. Excuse me for saying this,
Speaker 3: but I'm amongst I'm amongst friends right now. She has
Speaker 3: an area.
Speaker 2: She has a ball sack, Yeah she does.
Speaker 3: She literally has balls hanging from her neck.
Speaker 4: It almost looks like a lung to look at it, like,
Speaker 4: but whatever, And I can't imagine this one because they
Speaker 4: can't take them off like that.
Speaker 3: That is, yeah, that one, especially that one and that's
Speaker 3: probably why it's darker because that has such a capillary flow,
Speaker 3: because that's really your thyroid.
Speaker 4: So you would think that they would get to a
Speaker 4: point where they could do something, you know, But I mean,
Speaker 4: I guess we're not there yet.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Okay, Janet, this is the one that you didn't prepare
Speaker 4: me for, and I have to we're already talking about
Speaker 4: ball sacks.
Speaker 2: Guys. Prepare yourself, well, prepare for the other part. This one, Janet,
Speaker 2: I didn't even know. I didn't even know this could happen.
Speaker 2: What the hell? I mean, I'm sure he's horny. How
Speaker 2: do you let this get so big? What is going
Speaker 2: on with these people with horns?
Speaker 3: I know, and I we had we have had a
Speaker 3: lot of a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Do this or have this.
Speaker 3: But that's the thing that's like a craze now, is
Speaker 3: having implants done to mimic these. So this, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 3: is a cutaneous horn. Cutaneous horns are a keratin build
Speaker 3: up under your skin, also closely linked to people that
Speaker 3: have actinic caratosis, which is his skin condition warts or
Speaker 3: squamous carcinomas. But they make very hard cone like gross
Speaker 3: come out of your skin, and so they do look
Speaker 3: like horns. That's why they can hurt a little hard.
Speaker 3: And there are people It's almost like if you look
Speaker 3: at it on a person, it looks like little tusks.
Speaker 3: You're saying, like a wild boar or something. Yes, and
Speaker 3: they do discolor and change very looks.
Speaker 2: Like a hoof. Yes, it looks like the texture of
Speaker 2: a hoof.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: I didn't even know this was a real thing.
Speaker 4: And first of all, look when they're mentioning HPV, you
Speaker 4: go fuck around and find out.
Speaker 2: Look, don't be sticking your head anywhere. All these people
Speaker 2: got them on their heads. I don't know, But why
Speaker 2: would you take it off when it's little? These are
Speaker 2: treatable well, And that.
Speaker 3: Is the thing. And the picture that you showed. Maybe
Speaker 3: theyse were in areas where they couldn't we we removed them.
Speaker 3: But I never saw anybody that had any to this extent.
Speaker 3: They were always smaller, but we removed a lot of those.
Speaker 2: Was disgusting. This looks like of a.
Speaker 3: JJ with the horn with the curly dookie stick.
Speaker 2: Oh girls, you guys, yeah, oh my gosh. But at
Speaker 2: this level. Okay, dude, what are you doing? Go in?
Speaker 3: Why and see like this guy's, it doesn't come straight
Speaker 3: out like a like a pyramid or a horn like his,
Speaker 3: almost as ripples in it. And I've seen some of
Speaker 3: those too. Now I will say that removing them on
Speaker 3: the head or the face, that's that was a creepy picture.
Speaker 2: We'll get there.
Speaker 3: But the head and the face are uber vascular again
Speaker 3: because of all the nerves. And so if you're going
Speaker 3: to remove something like hers, because it's so large and
Speaker 3: it's literally almost the entire top of her head, they
Speaker 3: would need to do that in a hospital because of
Speaker 3: the blood loss that would couse in that.
Speaker 2: She could shave this down and make this a bad
Speaker 2: ass bun like, get you some hair extensions, you can
Speaker 2: shave it, shape it, you know, if she can't get
Speaker 2: it off, you know, she's one hundred and seven, this lady.
Speaker 2: And so but this one my husband's.
Speaker 4: My husband said, and I said yes, and he goes,
Speaker 4: you know, somebody probably tried that, and I said, and
Speaker 4: they probably got words all up in that thing, because.
Speaker 3: Well, and that's funny because they called them horned man,
Speaker 3: devil man, or unicorn man in the side shows. And
Speaker 3: so this guy literally has one sticking out the top
Speaker 3: of his head like a unic soho would the possibility
Speaker 3: of seeing something like this in the er where somebody
Speaker 3: did try that and then they injured their internal parts
Speaker 3: from it?
Speaker 2: Yes, well the HPV from it alone, Like if that
Speaker 2: is caused from HPV, because it can be, and then
Speaker 2: you do that with a warm, wet climate, you're gonna
Speaker 2: get HPV. I don't know if you guys have ever seen.
Speaker 2: We should do a whole series on STDs next too.
Speaker 4: Oh, it would be fabulous because I do this. I
Speaker 4: know that one well because when my kids are like ten,
Speaker 4: I go, you.
Speaker 2: Know what, this could happen to your vagina because I'm.
Speaker 4: Like, I Am not going to fuck around and let
Speaker 4: my kids just go out there willy nilly throwing the
Speaker 4: box to anybody or throwing the other thing like I
Speaker 4: showed my kids.
Speaker 3: Throwing a twenty down the hallway.
Speaker 4: Yep, yep, We're not doing that in my house. If
Speaker 4: you do, you can, but you know that weird shit happens.
Speaker 4: And you know what, a lot of my kids have
Speaker 4: made it to eighteen without, you know, so just saying something.
Speaker 3: We always had those conversations too, and a lot of
Speaker 3: people were like, oh, you shouldn't talk about things like that,
Speaker 3: Oh it's too young, And I'm like, no, no, no.
Speaker 3: Being the profession that I am, we literally would see
Speaker 3: children as young as nine that were sexually active.
Speaker 2: Yep, I'm not whoa, this is it. This is life,
Speaker 2: this is what a sex is a grown up thing.
Speaker 4: And if you're going to do a grown up thing,
Speaker 4: then you need to know the consequences.
Speaker 2: And it isn't just pregnancy.
Speaker 4: And I used to say, you know, pregnancy is nine
Speaker 4: months and eighteen years, you know, But herpes is the
Speaker 4: gift that keeps on giving forever.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and you got herpes, ladies and gentlemen also
Speaker 3: tends to hang in clusters like grapes.
Speaker 4: Just so you know, we'll we'll get you guys all
Speaker 4: caught up on the nastiest of nasty talk about a
Speaker 4: graphic image show we'll have to put on.
Speaker 3: We're gonna scare people.
Speaker 4: Let me let us know in the comments, do me
Speaker 4: a favor and let me janet no, if you guys
Speaker 4: are up for that, or if that's too far, if
Speaker 4: we're going too far in our medical minds because we're
Speaker 4: too sensitized.
Speaker 3: I know I was gonna say, plus both of us
Speaker 3: are like into like creepy stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this one had to be the most disturbing
Speaker 2: for me personally. Uh oh, and the next one.
Speaker 4: I forgot about. I remember this picture from from way back.
Speaker 4: This is the skin and the alligator skin babies and stuff.
Speaker 4: But I remember this picture, this specific photo from nursing school,
Speaker 4: and I because I remember thinking this is not real.
Speaker 2: That's it, this can't happen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this one is very strange and very creepy. Hold
Speaker 3: on a minute.
Speaker 4: When they're born, they look like this, and then it
Speaker 4: can go a lot. Well not all of them, I
Speaker 4: mean well.
Speaker 3: For people that are just listing and not watching. The
Speaker 3: baby is white as can be and then has red
Speaker 3: the lips and eyes, red lips, red eyes, and red
Speaker 3: parts kind of like design all over the body.
Speaker 4: I think it's best described as an an s like
Speaker 4: what the BDSM mask, where the leather is okay, that's.
Speaker 2: All why, and then the eyeballs and the mouth comes through.
Speaker 2: It's terrifying. I remember looking this up and thinking that
Speaker 2: is not real.
Speaker 3: Well, I was gonna say, there's another condition that's almost
Speaker 3: exactly like this. I gotta find it, because some of
Speaker 3: these there's just so like some of these I've never
Speaker 3: I haven't seen like in person.
Speaker 2: And I have never seen this.
Speaker 4: I mean, okay, I've seen Stevens Johnson syndrome go this badly.
Speaker 4: I will say that that is not a genetic condition.
Speaker 4: I actually had that happen to me, which is terrifying.
Speaker 4: I've never been allergic to antibiotics. But after my whole
Speaker 4: pickline blah blah blah boloney osteomyelitis in my spine, I
Speaker 4: developed an allergy and I did get it, and I
Speaker 4: did an EpiPen and all the things, and it stopped.
Speaker 2: Think heavens, because your skin will pill off just like this.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, but that's not the case.
Speaker 3: I wish people, Uh, for people who are just listing,
Speaker 3: you really need to go. You gotta check out the
Speaker 3: video just to watch like the pictures because trying to
Speaker 3: describe them, yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's impossible. It's definitely a picture's worth a thousand
Speaker 4: words on this one. And it's sad because he's a
Speaker 4: real people and and we know that this is him
Speaker 4: grown up, the same kid, and so he was able
Speaker 4: to live, which a lot of them don't.
Speaker 2: And so yeah, uh, there's also you know where it
Speaker 2: gets to be like this. This is before the shedding, right,
Speaker 2: this is the alligator skin, our alligator boys and girls.
Speaker 2: And then when that skin sheds off much like a snake, reptilian, whatever,
Speaker 2: then they're left with that bear skin. And he was
Speaker 2: born without skin, which is why it looks so crazy.
Speaker 3: So this must be the ichtheosis then, so it's thick, dry,
Speaker 3: scaly skinned, resembling fish scales could also be different. There's
Speaker 3: multiple different variations of this, and so they have vulgaris harlequin,
Speaker 3: and several other things. And so either.
Speaker 2: Harlequin the baby or fish scales. The harlequin was that
Speaker 2: little baby that looks so scary. If anybody wants to
Speaker 2: look it up, it that was the harlequin baby.
Speaker 3: So harlequin ichthiosis or anybody that's interested in that. And so, yeah,
Speaker 3: like this picture doesn't bother me as much as the
Speaker 3: other one did. The other way. He was literally like terrifying.
Speaker 3: I probably would not know.
Speaker 1: What to do.
Speaker 3: Even I would have, I would have been like, what
Speaker 3: the hell? That looks like something out of a horror movie?
Speaker 2: Yes, because I mean what would you do if you
Speaker 2: really were the nurse and didn't know like that? You
Speaker 2: know that that's a lot.
Speaker 4: Even US nurses are taken aback sometimes and not in
Speaker 4: a mean way or anything. It's just a surprising.
Speaker 3: Hundred So that the harlequin, that one that you said
Speaker 3: is it says it's extremely debilitating and can be fatal
Speaker 3: in infancy or in the past it was like always fatal.
Speaker 3: I'm sure not anymore because advancement. But i will say
Speaker 3: these are things that I, honest to God, don't see
Speaker 3: that much anymore.
Speaker 4: No, no, I have you know what they said that
Speaker 4: this was really prevalent in Muslim culture, and there was
Speaker 4: one other and it's prise me.
Speaker 2: It was like a Middle Eastern type thing. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: you know, they still marry their sisters there, And I'm
Speaker 2: not I'm not saying they all do, but I am
Speaker 2: saying there is.
Speaker 3: Which which would make sense because a lot of these
Speaker 3: are from genetic mutations.
Speaker 4: And I'm not dissing on anybody that's of a certain race.
Speaker 4: I'm just saying, don't marry everybody. Yeah, yeah, don't do it.
Speaker 4: It's a bad plan. I don't care if they tell
Speaker 4: you you're from a certain lineage.
Speaker 3: I know I don't cute, but no, you can't marry me.
Speaker 4: Nope, don't marry your sisters and brothers and aunts and
Speaker 4: uncles and stuff. Space it out a bit, space it out.
Speaker 4: But this baby also has it. Not quite I'm not
Speaker 4: quite as bad. I mean it's bad, but like there's worse,
Speaker 4: you know. This one I found fascinating because only on
Speaker 4: half of the body.
Speaker 2: How crazy is that? I thought that one was quite interesting.
Speaker 3: So this may be the one, and that's called vulgaris
Speaker 3: And of course even under that there's multiple different things too.
Speaker 3: But it says the alligator type skin that can be
Speaker 3: to one side of the body.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm, all right, that makes more sense. That would
Speaker 4: be so strange to have, Like it's a clear demarcation
Speaker 4: for people.
Speaker 2: That can't see it.
Speaker 4: It's literally like somebody drew a line down half of
Speaker 4: the body and the rest is fine.
Speaker 3: So well, especially if if this is oh some of
Speaker 3: those are are, especially if that runs like neural pathways
Speaker 3: as well.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't know if it did. I can't remember
Speaker 2: on that one.
Speaker 3: We'll have to That kind of looks like, hold on,
Speaker 3: so what was it? I said it a while ago,
Speaker 3: And it follows like the embryonic division line and so
Speaker 3: cellular lying straight down the back of the body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these ones were wild.
Speaker 3: Some kind of nervous thing.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, we knee it painful.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look if it's painful, because I know the
Speaker 4: next one is, and I just I'm not sure about
Speaker 4: this particular one.
Speaker 2: Oh it says alligators do feel paint. That's not what
Speaker 2: I want. I know that, Like I didn't think they
Speaker 2: didn't have. Yeah, it says, oh my gosh, whatever. So yes,
Speaker 2: it says it is painful.
Speaker 4: So if it's you know, if it's big, if it's
Speaker 4: a big area, it can cause pain because of the
Speaker 4: cracked in flame skin. So I don't know if there's
Speaker 4: even anything other than creams that can help this, because
Speaker 4: they don't sweat a lot, and they get infections a lot,
Speaker 4: and so that's why they oftentimes die. And the treatments
Speaker 4: are very minimal, just oral retinoids and moisturizers, and that sucks,
Speaker 4: like I can't imagine.
Speaker 2: And this next one is the butterfly skin.
Speaker 4: And I don't know that anybody would have been able
Speaker 4: to travel in the circus with this except very minimally,
Speaker 4: because these guys, holy moly, uh, it would take very
Speaker 4: little to damage them, and so so literally just yeah,
Speaker 4: get damaged skin.
Speaker 3: Soare for Tidle's sake. This is also called epidermolysis belosa,
Speaker 3: which is the butterfly skin. It's extremely fragile skin that
Speaker 3: blisters and tears very easily. So when extremely seep pictures
Speaker 3: of these patients, they literally look like massive burn victims.
Speaker 2: Exactly my thought. I thought the same.
Speaker 4: I'm glad it doesn't seem to affect their faces badly,
Speaker 4: and the ones that I've seen so far, anyway, the
Speaker 4: chest seems to be just.
Speaker 2: Brutal, brutal, and I can't imagine. They said, it is
Speaker 2: like horrifically painful, and I can't. I just can't imagine,
Speaker 2: because like, your skin is.
Speaker 3: So fragile that it's very very raw. It's because the
Speaker 3: skin is thinner, your nerve endings are going to be
Speaker 3: closer to the surface of the skin. I will say
Speaker 3: that looking at a lot of these pictures, there was
Speaker 3: a story of a girl that I was following on
Speaker 3: Instagram that had a the act injury that ended up
Speaker 3: looking exactly like these pictures. Into her skin and burned, burned,
Speaker 3: her scalp, burned, all the home of her scalp. She's bald,
Speaker 3: now burned all down her back. Yeah, jeez.
Speaker 2: They did say they are trying to do new gene
Speaker 2: therapy gels for these people and say that's a promising
Speaker 2: new treatment that might help. And otherwise, this is not
Speaker 2: a very good disease to have because it's all just
Speaker 2: treating the symptoms, you know, like, oh, they get infections
Speaker 2: or whatever. I imagine you just live on antibiotics because
Speaker 2: it would be constant. This kid, he only has it
Speaker 2: a little bit. But I loved the pictures.
Speaker 4: This kid, I can't remember his name, but he his
Speaker 4: whole mission was to bring attention to this disease and
Speaker 4: he did, and he did die at seventeen. They usually
Speaker 4: die very early. But this picture right here of him
Speaker 4: and his mom just melted my heart. I thought, oh
Speaker 4: my gosh, what a great photo. You know, so I'm
Speaker 4: going to look up his name. Why we talk about him,
Speaker 4: because I just was like, Wow, way to go, kid,
Speaker 4: I think, yeah, And I.
Speaker 3: Can't imagine because burns in themselves are extremely painful, so
Speaker 3: especially when you have kids like this, and it's like
Speaker 3: a genetic mutation again that like affects collagen and keratin
Speaker 3: production and so that you need those things to harden
Speaker 3: your skin and to form the multiple layers of your
Speaker 3: skin in the first place. And so with those things missing,
Speaker 3: I can't imagine like how painful it would be to
Speaker 3: wear clothes, wear shoes, literally anything, because anything that rubs
Speaker 3: on that open burn type area.
Speaker 2: Hurt like hill. And then his name is Jonathan P.
Speaker 2: I t R. E.
Speaker 4: Petree maybe, but he did die at seventeen, and his
Speaker 4: mom left a pretty big legacy on how he took
Speaker 4: all these pictures and put himself out there to bring
Speaker 4: attention to this disease.
Speaker 2: So way to go, Jonathan.
Speaker 3: I would assume that this would be very rare.
Speaker 2: Yes, extremely is.
Speaker 3: That something I've I've not seen that's one of them.
Speaker 2: Definitely, It's just wild. And this kid also has it.
Speaker 2: And I got to look up his name as well,
Speaker 2: but he actually did some pretty cool stuff and he
Speaker 2: is a weight training heavy lifting guy. Now he I mean,
Speaker 2: how cool is that? Like I thought that was pretty cool.
Speaker 2: He's like one of the world's best strong men. Blah
Speaker 2: blah blah. I was like, oh yeah, because you know
Speaker 2: he's gotta be in pain like all the time.
Speaker 3: That would be that would be awful, incredibly terrible.
Speaker 4: I can't imagine, and he he just probably learned to
Speaker 4: push through. I'm not really sure how he managed to
Speaker 4: do that. It's pretty amazing on his part, that's for sure.
Speaker 4: So yeah, he fights through it. His name is Dean Clifford,
Speaker 4: and he said literally his skin rips every time he moves.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, especially doing weight lifting or whatever.
Speaker 3: I hope he doesn't like do dead lips or anything,
Speaker 3: because I can't even imagine.
Speaker 4: Looks like he's maybe had some skin grafting. I wonder
Speaker 4: if once they have skin grafting done, if they're able.
Speaker 4: I know this is going to be controversial, but I'm
Speaker 4: gonna say it because I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: If they're doing it, they well we say.
Speaker 3: What we think, and well what we say.
Speaker 4: Listen, they're throwing away all these little baby penises after
Speaker 4: they cut them, and one way or another, I don't
Speaker 4: want to get into a discussion about if we should
Speaker 4: or shouldn't cut them, but people do, and so I
Speaker 4: want people to know. I'm not sure how they go
Speaker 4: about this, but one baby foreskin because the skin is
Speaker 4: so perfect, or skin burn victims and people like this
Speaker 4: can make twenty.
Speaker 2: Grafted sheets of skin.
Speaker 4: And look, I know we've said things back and forth
Speaker 4: about should we be doing genetic modification for certain things? Man,
Speaker 4: I don't think they should be doing full full like
Speaker 4: livers and stuff.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know there's a level, right, But for the skin,
Speaker 4: I feel like that's a lot different where it would
Speaker 4: reject less. I'm just talking about safety, not ethic, but
Speaker 4: safety wise. Like I don't know if I would want
Speaker 4: a full heart that was created in a Petri dish.
Speaker 2: I don't know about that, right, or a three D
Speaker 2: printer right might make me a little anxious.
Speaker 4: But some skin, I have a skin graft, so I
Speaker 4: can speak on this. I can definitely say that, you know,
Speaker 4: you run out of areas. I was severely burned as
Speaker 4: a little kid. Yeah, and they had to take it.
Speaker 4: I mean I was only one, so there wasn't a
Speaker 4: whole lot of space. I mean off your butt, you know.
Speaker 2: But either way, I mean they're throwing them away.
Speaker 3: Well, and even because a lot of times when they
Speaker 3: do grafting or graft harvesting, they take it from like
Speaker 3: your thigh, but having that shaving done to do the
Speaker 3: graft in another area of your body is also excruciating
Speaker 3: and painful. Yes, it's not a walk in the park.
Speaker 3: It doesn't feel good.
Speaker 2: No, And so I think that it's important.
Speaker 4: Like, Okay, if they're gonna go ahead and use them
Speaker 4: for women and they're silly their face creams and.
Speaker 2: Whatnot, blah blah blah. Like I'm just saying, I'd rather
Speaker 2: got to push this up sharing somewhere or maybe you
Speaker 2: can see it there we go, okay, And so I'm
Speaker 2: just saying, before we give it to Esda Lauter, right,
Speaker 2: maybe we could give it to the people that need it.
Speaker 4: Like that's just my thoughts on it. And if we're
Speaker 4: gonna use crisper technology and different things like that, I mean, like,
Speaker 4: let's give it to the people that need it. I mean,
Speaker 4: i mean, beauty regimes, whatever you want to do to yourself, cool,
Speaker 4: but like let's let's put it in priority.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. I agree.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 4: Sandra Bullock has been all over TV talking about how
Speaker 4: she uses them for her face, so you know, you
Speaker 4: guys can google it. She she literally had a full
Speaker 4: ass discussion on a TV show. It wasn't just a
Speaker 4: quote about how you know, baby penises or in her
Speaker 4: whatever the hell she uses. And so I'm just saying,
Speaker 4: if we're going to give them to somebody, I feel
Speaker 4: like you should be able to say where it goes.
Speaker 2: Because they're keeping them, they're not going in the trash.
Speaker 2: Come on, get on your here. What's that? That's why
Speaker 2: they put them in the biohazard certain things. Same thing
Speaker 2: with the plus senta and everything.
Speaker 4: If it was really going in the trash, all the
Speaker 4: things in that room are biohazard.
Speaker 2: Why is there a special bucket just for that?
Speaker 3: M makes collection collection purposes.
Speaker 4: And people are so worried about spitting in a tube.
Speaker 4: I'm like, listen, unless you're amish and you're not ever
Speaker 4: going to a doctor ever in your life, and ever
Speaker 4: like any kind of normalcy with any hospital ever, I
Speaker 4: don't think you're getting out of it.
Speaker 2: They take samples from us all the time. Let's be real.
Speaker 2: That is very true. That happens. Yep.
Speaker 3: So here's another interesting thing. Probably don't have very many
Speaker 3: pictures if any of this.
Speaker 2: I forgot.
Speaker 3: This says this, this happens, but it's not a genetic
Speaker 3: mutation or anything like that. Is literally from says self
Speaker 3: treatment enthusiast people that take colloidal silver.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't get a picture of this yes.
Speaker 3: And basically, colloidal silver builds up in your body and
Speaker 3: cannot be excreted, and so it will cause your skin
Speaker 3: to be a discolored blue gray, a lovely shade of
Speaker 3: blue gray because of the silver build up because your
Speaker 3: body can't expel it. So that is called our geria.
Speaker 3: And so I've never seen that, but it would be
Speaker 3: It's not been in a side show, but it would
Speaker 3: be visually unique for a side show if you had
Speaker 3: a blue or gray person.
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that they do have some pictures and
Speaker 2: I forgot to do that one and I do.
Speaker 4: I'll reshare when we talk about yours down because I
Speaker 4: forgot they were out of order and we were going
Speaker 4: in a different direction. But I do think they have
Speaker 4: some on colloidal silver people because I remember seeing them
Speaker 4: and being because my dad, Yeah, my dad was super
Speaker 4: crazy about like alternative medicine, and we used to tell him,
Speaker 4: you're just gonna die from your crazy Mexican cures.
Speaker 2: Like I don't know what is in that bottle, but
Speaker 2: like it frightens me.
Speaker 3: Oh, colloidal silver, Like right around the beginning of the
Speaker 3: when the world went ten to chaos, Yes, colloidal silver
Speaker 3: was being pushed really big at that time for put
Speaker 3: in in your toothpaste. They had all these influencers on
Speaker 3: Instagram and TikTok and whatever pushing colloidal silver. We can,
Speaker 3: we can make it, we can send it to you,
Speaker 3: you can use it for all these different things. If
Speaker 3: it's going to turn me into a smurf, I think
Speaker 3: that I'm just saying my color.
Speaker 2: So I mean, you know it's beautiful, but I don't
Speaker 2: want to be that color. So definitely google that because
Speaker 2: it's it is a real thing, and it's uncurable. This
Speaker 2: is the sad thing, Like if you done did it
Speaker 2: too much, it's unfixable. You cannot fix it.
Speaker 6: And so because you can't remove coloidal silver from your system,
Speaker 6: I think that's wild. Yeah, so even the people that
Speaker 6: use colloidal silver in their toothpaste all of the time,
Speaker 6: you're going to change the color of your teeth.
Speaker 2: How wild? Yes, saying, And you don't want to be
Speaker 2: a smurf unless you do I have you don't want
Speaker 2: to be.
Speaker 3: A I don't. Some people may super duper enjoy that.
Speaker 2: I don't know, very strange, not not first, we don't.
Speaker 2: We don't love.
Speaker 3: So if if people like that were on a sideshow,
Speaker 3: they would probably market them as aliens.
Speaker 2: Yes, maybe.
Speaker 3: Some people.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, I think there's so much wrong with
Speaker 2: so many people.
Speaker 3: But we're just not going to go there.
Speaker 2: Will behave right now.
Speaker 3: So the next thing we're going to talk about is
Speaker 3: Eeler's dan Lows. I forgot because Heidi and I have
Speaker 3: already done like a full episode on the Eelers dan
Speaker 3: Lows and all the different types and what kind of
Speaker 3: things are affected. So, uh, today we are gonna chitty
Speaker 3: chat about the one that affects the skin because people
Speaker 3: that have and I think it was the what was
Speaker 3: the traditional type of Eelers dan Lows. It's called classic
Speaker 3: or something like that. This was episode one one people,
Speaker 3: if you want to check that out.
Speaker 2: Can you see that? Okay?
Speaker 3: Yes, I used him as my He's wild. I love
Speaker 3: it thumbnail as well, so.
Speaker 2: I can say anything I want about this because I
Speaker 2: have it.
Speaker 3: Yes, So this is the type, which I think it
Speaker 3: was called classic. It has skin hyper extensibility, which means
Speaker 3: that they can literally stretch that skin in all kinds
Speaker 3: of different way, shapes and fashions.
Speaker 2: They don't have the skin one, but it's crazy.
Speaker 3: The first man was literally pulling the skin from his
Speaker 3: face and like inworting it in different places. And I
Speaker 3: don't mean just a little.
Speaker 2: No, I mean I'll show you all this one. Check
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 3: Oh well, that's fabulous. That's kind of a kind of
Speaker 3: a fetish type picture.
Speaker 6: What the hell?
Speaker 3: Yeah, this guy is using the big.
Speaker 2: Metal lamps like paper clamps, kind of yes.
Speaker 3: Like paper clamps, and he has them attached to a
Speaker 3: chain and some kind of device, and he's actually pulling
Speaker 3: his skin from his cheeks and his neck out really
Speaker 3: far with these paper clamps.
Speaker 2: It's crazy bananas that that can happen.
Speaker 4: This is just a wild This guy has his neck
Speaker 4: over his nose like he pulled his neck skin like
Speaker 4: wo up over him.
Speaker 3: You know what this is? This right here is where
Speaker 3: they got the the marketing's genius behind those neck gators.
Speaker 2: Oh that's what's up. Oh my gosh, what this is or.
Speaker 3: Foreskin?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I yeah, I didn't say it, but yeah I
Speaker 2: thought it. I thought it for sure. I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: say I don't care. And it's wild.
Speaker 4: Because when he isn't pulling on his skin, if you
Speaker 4: guys notice, he looks normal.
Speaker 2: It's totally normal. But then when you pull it, it
Speaker 2: just stretches like crazy, and so these people have one
Speaker 2: nice thing and all of the elers daan. Most people
Speaker 2: have this, they get a look young.
Speaker 4: This was kind of one of my diagnosing factors is
Speaker 4: you don't age that rapidly because your skin is weird.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it's a collagen disorder. And so that's
Speaker 2: one nice thing that we get.
Speaker 4: So I have the hypermobility type, which sucks because the
Speaker 4: skin trick is fun, but the hypermobility one hurts right
Speaker 4: like it's crappy.
Speaker 3: And I was dying then, the opposite of the way
Speaker 3: they were meant to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this is how I was diagnosed. So they
Speaker 2: are bending.
Speaker 4: A lot of people say I could bend my thumb
Speaker 4: forward too, and I'm like, no, with your head backward, and.
Speaker 2: I'll show you my little trick here there you go. Nope,
Speaker 2: So my joints do this.
Speaker 4: But the bad part about this is people will say, well,
Speaker 4: that's cool because like a contortionists, until you start breaking
Speaker 4: your back and your hips and your because things.
Speaker 2: Just slide out of position. You wake up one day
Speaker 2: you sleep with your arm up and your shoulders dislocated,
Speaker 2: and I mean you just learn how to put things back,
Speaker 2: which sucks. It's extremely painful in general because when you walk,
Speaker 2: things move like they shouldn't. So yeah, sucky.
Speaker 3: But yeah, So imagine like the normal functioning of your
Speaker 3: body and people that have this this hyper flexibility type,
Speaker 3: how things moved backwards. So imagine walking and your knee
Speaker 3: went backwards. That's why when Heidi and I talked before,
Speaker 3: that is definitely me. I have had that many times
Speaker 3: where my knee went the wrong way.
Speaker 2: Yes, so do you have it too? Are you hypermobility?
Speaker 3: They have never diagnosed me with that, but I'm telling you.
Speaker 2: Touch your nose with your tongue, this is a diagnosis.
Speaker 3: I will not show people on video because I just did.
Speaker 3: I don't want it. I don't want to cause all
Speaker 3: kinds of excitement for your day, you know.
Speaker 2: Yeah now, yeah, now, hey, we have talent whatever.
Speaker 4: Fine, but yes, things pop out and they don't necessarily
Speaker 4: go back, go back. Yeah, this guy has it, and
Speaker 4: he is displaying my daughter can do. But it freaks
Speaker 4: me out. I don't try to do this because it
Speaker 4: freaks me out.
Speaker 2: I'm sure I could that I.
Speaker 3: Can, and then you run the risk if you're doing this,
Speaker 3: our joint's going to go back, and so I know
Speaker 3: we talked about that on our full show on Elers,
Speaker 3: Dan lows about people that are quote unquote double jointed,
Speaker 3: which is what the picture of this girl looks like.
Speaker 3: She's double jointed to be able to do that, which
Speaker 3: all reality is literally Eler stands.
Speaker 4: Right, right, and they I mean the skin thing is
Speaker 4: crazy to me, Like this brings a whole new meaning
Speaker 4: to the word skin suit for my brain.
Speaker 2: But I don't have that type, thank Heaven's.
Speaker 4: But like I said, the second type, I don't know
Speaker 4: if it's any better because it's still it's like a
Speaker 4: whole pain.
Speaker 3: So when I see you, like, I'm not going to
Speaker 3: be able to pull your skin.
Speaker 4: And no like the elephant girl, Yes, the poor elephant girl,
Speaker 4: I guess she could do that. They didn't show, but
Speaker 4: you can see the wrinkles like literally it's like a
Speaker 4: suit of of like like a person that lost a
Speaker 4: lot of weight.
Speaker 2: And then yeah, it's like from though.
Speaker 3: This is what Okay, So what Heightie's talking about the
Speaker 3: elephant girl and the condition that she has, and it
Speaker 3: it looks like elephant skin because it's textured the same
Speaker 3: and it does have like the wrinkles and the folds
Speaker 3: just like an just like an elephant does.
Speaker 4: Yes, and so babies like, this isn't from weight loss,
Speaker 4: this isn't from this is like from little I.
Speaker 3: Was gonna say, uh, gastric bypass surgery right right. We've
Speaker 3: had a lot of patients that have the skin that
Speaker 3: hangs like drapes, but it's not textured like this, no, so.
Speaker 4: And it's soft usually like so elers down loss. Your
Speaker 4: skin will be softer than normal people's skin. It'll be
Speaker 4: see through like you can. It's and this comes from
Speaker 4: the stupid in breeding of the royals because they called
Speaker 4: them blue bloods right because you can see their veins
Speaker 4: and they were kind of.
Speaker 2: Proud of this, which is so random and weird, but yeah,
Speaker 2: that's what's up.
Speaker 3: So, so the Elephant Girl was Susie the elephant skin Girl.
Speaker 3: It said that she was the only person in her
Speaker 3: family that ever had any kind of weird skin condition
Speaker 3: or anything like that. But the creases were mostly formed
Speaker 3: in the joints et ceterac sector. So she traveled around
Speaker 3: Europe because she was born in Germany. Earned Blynn traveled
Speaker 3: around Europe first, then she came to Cody Island and
Speaker 3: started performing there, and that's where she got the nickname
Speaker 3: the Elephant Skin Girl and Susie, which is not her
Speaker 3: real name anyway, Charlotte Linda Vogel. So she did that
Speaker 3: for a while, but because performing was so demanding and
Speaker 3: they wanted her to do so many shows, she left
Speaker 3: and decided that she was going to be featured in
Speaker 3: Ripley's Believe It or Not, which was the exhibit at
Speaker 3: the Chicago World's Fair.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 3: Kind of weird how the World's Fair ties in with
Speaker 3: the side shows.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 3: So she did that, but they made her perform like
Speaker 3: eight times a day. Oh wow at this Ripley's Believe
Speaker 3: It or Not. So it was too exhausting for her,
Speaker 3: so she quit and and opened her own show, this
Speaker 3: girl called the Swamp Girl. Oh and she builled it
Speaker 3: as an improbable cross between a woman and a swamp lizard.
Speaker 2: Why would she pick that? There's so much better?
Speaker 3: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: That's so weird, I mean, mm hmmm, swamp Girl. I
Speaker 2: just I don't know. I don't know if that translates over.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't know. Because she had her maybe
Speaker 3: they told her she couldn't use Elephant Girl anymore. So
Speaker 3: she had to come up with something she could.
Speaker 2: Be like elastic girl skin or I don't know, curtain
Speaker 2: curtain skin.
Speaker 3: I don't know, curtain girl, curtain girl.
Speaker 2: Maybe, I mean maybe she thought that that would be
Speaker 2: a false advertising.
Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna share a story with you because I
Speaker 3: said curtain girl.
Speaker 2: I did have a.
Speaker 3: Person that I knew at one point in time that
Speaker 3: was a female that the lips down below warlike curtains
Speaker 3: because I've it's almost like I've never in my life
Speaker 3: like you could literally wrap that around someone's head twice.
Speaker 3: And I don't mean that in a bad way, but
Speaker 3: we're we were talking about it a lot, and it's
Speaker 3: just stretchie the skinna. So think about the your ear lobe, right,
Speaker 3: and people were gauges to like stretch them out and
Speaker 3: make the holes bingeror whatever. This was a natural occurrence.
Speaker 3: Doesn't know what happened, but they were so long that
Speaker 3: she actually had a vaginal labia revision.
Speaker 2: I would as well, ye, we'll go in and chop
Speaker 2: that off if it is excessive like that.
Speaker 4: And even in some of these you know, skin ones,
Speaker 4: I guess maybe I'll trade the pain because I'll keep
Speaker 4: the pain for not having curtains.
Speaker 2: I guess I don't know. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: what's worse because she fixed it clearly, but then you
Speaker 2: have to live with it until that's painful.
Speaker 3: Though happened, happened that revision double because that's we're all
Speaker 3: skin down there and in the yonder.
Speaker 2: Parts and the yonder nether regions, y'all. That's rough. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I just can't. I don't know.
Speaker 4: I mean, from what I saw so far on these people,
Speaker 4: they were lucky enough that their skin went back right,
Speaker 4: but not the elephant girl right.
Speaker 2: Hers was saggy. Though that's rough. I don't know. I
Speaker 2: don't know. I don't know what's worse.
Speaker 4: I mean, there's many many types of elers Dan lost
Speaker 4: you guys, and you can, like Janet said, check out
Speaker 4: our episode on that. But I think the most common
Speaker 4: is what I have, which is called heeds hypermobility. None
Speaker 4: of the skin weirdness, thank Heaven's, although it does give
Speaker 4: me some perks. I have extra soft skin. My husband's
Speaker 4: always like, oh my gosh, your hands are like like
Speaker 4: the softest ever, which they call velvet skin.
Speaker 2: Also with that, when you carry babies, it rips like it.
Speaker 4: Doesn't just get stretch marks. It's a sitch, you know,
Speaker 4: and so think Kevin's that goes away when things go
Speaker 4: back down. But oh it's painful, like literally painful stretch
Speaker 4: marks and different weird things like that.
Speaker 2: But our skin doesn't like to heal.
Speaker 4: Blah blah blah. But luckily, like I said, would I
Speaker 4: trade the pain for the aging, I don't know, you
Speaker 4: I don't know, freaks me out. I'm like, well, I
Speaker 4: don't really know any difference because it's not like you
Speaker 4: never had pain, like you're born basically in pain.
Speaker 2: So I don't know. I definitely learned to not do
Speaker 2: all my fun parlor tricks.
Speaker 4: Anymore, like exactly behind my head and crazy things, because.
Speaker 3: See I used to be able to do that with
Speaker 3: the legs. I can't, yep, obviously not anymore.
Speaker 4: But no, but if you do have eelers downlosts, that
Speaker 4: would make sense why you also have back issues because
Speaker 4: we don't walk normally because things slide out of your
Speaker 4: spinal cord.
Speaker 2: Should not be moving around while you're walking, and they.
Speaker 3: And they have stay back and that's that's exactly why
Speaker 3: they did this fusion, because mine was moving in ways.
Speaker 2: It's not supposed so see that that makes me think
Speaker 2: you really can you binge with on backward like I did?
Speaker 3: Like this, No, okay, mind Jessica.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people can even see not that
Speaker 2: way but this way.
Speaker 3: You No, I can't that far.
Speaker 2: It just normal. I can't normal, and mine are like,
Speaker 2: my hands are here. I'll do my little trick. It's
Speaker 2: a fun one. My husband was like, what the hell?
Speaker 2: I used to show people in like high school and stuff,
Speaker 2: but not the head the lake behind.
Speaker 3: He's gonna start charging in a mission thing.
Speaker 2: He's like, what honor?
Speaker 3: He start his own side show at home, right, just
Speaker 3: at home.
Speaker 4: I'll just be in the window doing my cool tricks.
Speaker 4: But they would, you know, what they would want. They
Speaker 4: would want the.
Speaker 2: Bad ones for Yeah, I don't. I don't get damn
Speaker 2: like that. But and I don't. I don't want them.
Speaker 3: I don't want them kidnapping you and taking Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, yeah they might. And that was you know,
Speaker 2: I almost got kidnapped in the Dominican ones. That was
Speaker 2: really scary. That's a real story.
Speaker 4: I got detained and the plane was leaving and they
Speaker 4: took my husband away and put me in a room
Speaker 4: all by myself with these humongous security guys, and they
Speaker 4: said it was about my bag. But I know Spanish
Speaker 4: and I think it saved my life. So I don't
Speaker 4: know amazing Spanish, but I know a pretty good amount.
Speaker 4: I'm very conversational, like I know plenty. And they were
Speaker 4: on the phone, but they weren't talking about my bag.
Speaker 4: They were talking about my hair color, my eye color,
Speaker 4: and my body, and I was I lost my mind
Speaker 4: and I started like yelling at them and Spanish, and
Speaker 4: my husband started pounding on the door and as soon
Speaker 4: as they heard me speaking Spanish, they like shoved all
Speaker 4: my shit in the bag and like threw me out
Speaker 4: the door and we.
Speaker 2: Made the thing.
Speaker 3: It was terrifying when who doesn't speak Spanish.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was terrifying. I was like I can't even
Speaker 4: break y'all, like everything's all gone, like knock it off, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Out of here. With that, I don't want to go there.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of places I don't want to go,
Speaker 3: just because it was.
Speaker 4: Actually amazing, but just the airport was scary, which is random,
Speaker 4: you would think not. But the actual island, of course,
Speaker 4: we were in an inclusive gated all that stuff, like
Speaker 4: it was very safe.
Speaker 2: But we actually got married there and it was beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 3: It would be pretty to see. But I don't know.
Speaker 3: The world is so Craig Cray.
Speaker 2: And I know, I know it was fantastic. Oh.
Speaker 3: I got to mention this because you know, I said
Speaker 3: earlier that sometimes the performers had multiple things. So back
Speaker 3: to the episode number one that we had with the
Speaker 3: seafarer diagnoses Grady Styles, who was bash, hit nuts and
Speaker 3: murdered people. He also, outside of lobstercle hands, also had
Speaker 3: the ichtheosis vulgaris.
Speaker 2: Oh he did, yes, So it's weird.
Speaker 3: That's why I like multiple performers. Uh, it wasn't uncommon
Speaker 3: for them to have more than one condition. And oh
Speaker 3: then they could really play.
Speaker 2: Isn't his mom on drugs or something with him was?
Speaker 2: Or no, I can't remember. There was one. I don't know.
Speaker 4: Oh, speaking of I have to tell this one last
Speaker 4: story about the elephant man. You know, you guys, he
Speaker 4: went through his life because at that time they really
Speaker 4: thought that women when they were pregnant, if you saw
Speaker 4: something that scared you, it could change your baby. And
Speaker 4: I guess she got scared by an elephant while she
Speaker 4: was pregnant, so they literally call it pregnancy impression. And
Speaker 4: she went through the rest of her life believing that
Speaker 4: she caused this to her son because she got scared
Speaker 4: by an elephant.
Speaker 3: Well that is really sad because what is that That
Speaker 3: is that is literally blame the mother. Yeah, and that
Speaker 3: is literally, uh like a terrible guilt to be faced
Speaker 3: with with your whole entire life because in printing you
Speaker 3: with some kind of bullshit.
Speaker 2: It was sad.
Speaker 4: I felt really bad for both of them. And then
Speaker 4: she dies right after, and then the dad just beats
Speaker 4: the ship out of him constantly.
Speaker 2: I was like, Wow, great, great story. Whoa So yeah,
Speaker 2: they really used to think this stuff though.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that.
Speaker 2: Must have seen a seal I don't know.
Speaker 3: And your girl her mom's all mermaid right exactly.
Speaker 2: We're kidding you guys. We got to lighten it up
Speaker 2: a little bit. We saw some freaking traumatic photos. So yeah.
Speaker 3: So here's an interesting performer. His name was Willie Harris.
Speaker 3: He was billed as the frog Boy. He had ixtheosis
Speaker 3: of his skin, but it gave him or that he
Speaker 3: was promoted. I guess it didn't give him. They promoted
Speaker 3: him as a green, slimy froglike character, even though he
Speaker 3: didn't really have green skin, but they would they would
Speaker 3: slather him up and stuff before they like tossed him
Speaker 3: out there to perform, so that he would get the
Speaker 3: frog type color.
Speaker 2: Yuck. Here, it's yeah, Barnham, I hope you had some
Speaker 2: answering to do when you got where you're going.
Speaker 3: A hundred person not okay. So the the elastic skin
Speaker 3: man that you showed the pictures of earlier, he has
Speaker 3: elers dan lows, but his name was Felix Whirlie and
Speaker 3: he was literally the most famous side show performer because
Speaker 3: of his ability. So I gotta go over really quick.
Speaker 3: So these are skin conditions that are really weird that
Speaker 3: could warrant h circus side show stuff, but some of
Speaker 3: them were not ever included for different reasons. So I've
Speaker 3: had a patient with this one. It's called Morgellon's disease
Speaker 3: and it's a serbucial diagnosis. Patients report crawling sensations, skin leasions,
Speaker 3: and fibers emerging from their skin.
Speaker 2: And they come out.
Speaker 4: They literally pull them Like I used to think it
Speaker 4: was bullshit, but I have seen them pull them out.
Speaker 3: The weird things. Well, I had a patient that our
Speaker 3: doctor thought she was nuts because she was talking about
Speaker 3: eggs in her nose and eggs in her skin and
Speaker 3: whatever this thing was was implanting eggs in her and
Speaker 3: we thought, okay, she's uber like uber uber on drugs.
Speaker 3: But she literally had things come out of her arm
Speaker 3: in the office, and I was like another taken aback moment,
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what the hurl is that?
Speaker 2: No, ma'am, No, ma'am, You're like, listen, doctor, clearly this
Speaker 2: is not in her head.
Speaker 3: I mean it is, but obviously, but she was like
Speaker 3: wanting him to, you know, use the otoscope for the
Speaker 3: ear to look up her nose because she could feel.
Speaker 3: So she did have things come out of her arm,
Speaker 3: and they weren't fibers, I don't.
Speaker 2: They were like eggs. Yes, did he get anything out
Speaker 2: of her nose?
Speaker 3: I don't think he looked because he thought she was nuts.
Speaker 2: Well, but she showed him stuff. I don't know. That's
Speaker 2: I mean, that sounds like parasites. It was.
Speaker 3: It was pretty crazy. And and so I said it
Speaker 3: was controversial virtual because they think it is a delusional
Speaker 3: thing or uh, parasitosis.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm telling you, guys, these delusional.
Speaker 4: People are pulling hair fibers out like this long it's
Speaker 4: and they're not ingrown hairs.
Speaker 3: And I would imagine probably more so after than the
Speaker 3: X because of the self assembling nano technology stuff. So
Speaker 3: could incidents of this pop up or we should.
Speaker 2: We should check and see if there's a higher incidence
Speaker 2: after we'll have to dig because I'm sure it's going
Speaker 2: to not come up, of.
Speaker 3: Course not, it's gonna be buried. So the next one
Speaker 3: is dermatographia, which means that you can write on the
Speaker 3: skin and it will stay there for a while. I
Speaker 3: actually had this for quite a while when I was younger,
Speaker 3: Like I could literally write a message on my skin
Speaker 3: and it would stay there for a while. And so
Speaker 3: that you're gonna love this. It's caused by mast cell
Speaker 3: ohsativity and so the things that cause allergic reactions to
Speaker 3: go into hyperdrive part of your immune system. That's what
Speaker 3: causes this to happen. And it's it's like rare. It's
Speaker 3: kind of a form of hives, but it doesn't last
Speaker 3: very long. And so they couldn't use people like me
Speaker 3: and the side show back in the day, even though
Speaker 3: I would have gone willingly yes, whatever. Yeah, I would
Speaker 3: have gone, but they wouldn't let make us. The writing
Speaker 3: didn't day long enough.
Speaker 2: Oh man.
Speaker 3: So here's an interesting called blow syndrome, and it's a
Speaker 3: rare inherited granulomitous disorder that causes weird skin rashes, arthritis,
Speaker 3: and inflammation. They it wasn't visually dramatic enough for them
Speaker 3: to be put in a side show. But you'll have
Speaker 3: like little weird like benign tumors grow up under your
Speaker 3: skin here and there, or like strange bending of your joints.
Speaker 3: So like little almost like little arthritic tumors on your joints.
Speaker 2: Okay, it's like a Bible bump.
Speaker 3: You freak fingering, Okay. So and then we already talked
Speaker 3: about the moles. But here's an interesting one. It's a
Speaker 3: rethrow poetic proto porphia, and it is extreme sensitivity to
Speaker 3: sunlight causes burning, pain and swelling within minutes, kind of
Speaker 3: like the other one that.
Speaker 2: We talked about.
Speaker 3: And this is from uh a rethrow point and is
Speaker 3: made from the bone marrow. That's how your red blood
Speaker 3: cells are made. Is from the rethrow poeaton that comes
Speaker 3: from your bone marrow. And so this is a genetic
Speaker 3: disorder that comes from an over production of heme, which
Speaker 3: is is the blood component of your blood or the
Speaker 3: iron component of your blood, and so it was part
Speaker 3: of that, but this was not caused or not. They
Speaker 3: were not put inside chows either, although these kind of
Speaker 3: things inspired the vampire legion, so it's very closely related
Speaker 3: and similar again to the vampire syndrome we talked about
Speaker 3: the vampire moon kids.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's wild.
Speaker 3: So this one is very weird and I do not
Speaker 3: have a clue in hell how to say this. It
Speaker 3: looks like patchyantia maybe congenita, and it is thickened nails,
Speaker 3: painful callouses, and white patches inside the mouth. Its weird,
Speaker 3: has uh mutation in the keratin genes, and it's extremely
Speaker 3: extremely painful. But I guess you can get like and
Speaker 3: I've I've actually seen people with like the really thick
Speaker 3: nails before. Oh yeah, but they always called it, what
Speaker 3: was a on aco micosis or something like that, So
Speaker 3: was it really or was it this? I don't know
Speaker 3: because they're they're usually very thick like hooves and they're
Speaker 3: hard to cut. People would always come to us to
Speaker 3: try to have us like cut their nails and I'm like,
Speaker 3: outside of like a bone saw of for casting, I
Speaker 3: don't know what we would.
Speaker 2: Use because time to go to the podiatrist that yeah no.
Speaker 3: Or people that get callouses that are really excruciatingly painful
Speaker 3: and they're very thick. We've had patients like this where
Speaker 3: we actually had to shave them with the razor blade.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, just shave the callous down.
Speaker 2: Ww So then you have.
Speaker 3: Callous flake solo.
Speaker 4: I would love to tell you the percentage, which should
Speaker 4: be a simple thing to retrieve and for any other disease.
Speaker 4: It is because I've been looking for more Gallon's disease
Speaker 4: since we spoke about it, and.
Speaker 2: It won't tell me. It's a controversial, but it will
Speaker 2: clear up into until twenty twenty. Of course, it's hard
Speaker 2: to track, but it's been tracked every year before.
Speaker 3: That, of course, but now all of a sudden it's
Speaker 3: it's woo wu. It's impossible now, yeah, so difficult, okay, whatever.
Speaker 3: So this is a very interesting thing. I've only seen
Speaker 3: it once. It's called like and plainness, and it's flat.
Speaker 3: It cheap purple bumps that often form in a lacy
Speaker 3: pattern on the skin with white patches in between. It's
Speaker 3: very strange. They also it also happens inside the mouth.
Speaker 3: The mouth is where I saw it, which was really weird.
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, So this is also an autoimmune in origin.
Speaker 3: They have no idea what causes it, but it literally
Speaker 3: does look like a lace pattern, like a doyley that
Speaker 3: your grandma would have on her side table.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, that's crazy. So on that on the tongue
Speaker 2: one and stuff. Are these all just autoimmune?
Speaker 3: That one? That one is, yeah, like and plainness is autoimmune?
Speaker 3: And that literally almost all of these things we talked
Speaker 3: about today were genetic and I think they're allly imune
Speaker 3: that were auto immune. And that was the bit of
Speaker 3: igo because they don't know what the underlying cause of
Speaker 3: the autoimmune disorder is, but they're gonna treat everybody the same.
Speaker 2: H wild.
Speaker 4: I bet it's wildly misdiagnosed, especially the oral one. I
Speaker 4: bet they just over and over say it's thrush rush yeh,
Speaker 4: you know, blah blah blah. And in this lacy one,
Speaker 4: I bet they. I bet they don't know unless you're
Speaker 4: a specialist.
Speaker 3: Like it was so weird because like I would go
Speaker 3: in and I would see a patient first and they
Speaker 3: would tell me like, you know, my throat hurts or whatever,
Speaker 3: and I'd go to look at it, and I'd be like,
Speaker 3: I've seen a lot of throats in my life. And
Speaker 3: I was like, holy molly, yeah, I'm like, dude, this
Speaker 3: is the weirdest thing I've ever seen. It literally looks
Speaker 3: like a lace pattern.
Speaker 2: In her mouth.
Speaker 3: And he went in and he's like, oh, do you
Speaker 3: know what that is? And I'm like, nope, no, idea. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they nailed it right off the bat. I had never
Speaker 3: even heard of it before.
Speaker 2: And geographical tongue, right, that's another fun one. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: I don't know. There's a good one which just happens.
Speaker 2: It's been nigh. But it looks terrifying, like if you're
Speaker 2: looking in mouse like we're talking about that. When you
Speaker 2: see that, you're like, what's going on there?
Speaker 3: I've seen some uper interesting things in my life, not
Speaker 3: gonna lie. Oh yeah, you know along with this stuff
Speaker 3: of course, like all kinds of rashes and warts and
Speaker 3: you know, everything under the sun, things that are contagious,
Speaker 3: things that are not contagious, fungal infections, parasites, you know,
Speaker 3: the parasites.
Speaker 4: Get me, man, I'm like, oh, that gives me the
Speaker 4: heaties for a while if somebody comes in and you're
Speaker 4: helping them, and even if.
Speaker 3: It's just like scabies, which is a we've had a
Speaker 3: lot of scabies people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not the end all be all. It's curable
Speaker 4: and stuff, but I'm itching for like a month after that.
Speaker 4: Just you know, you're and you don't you.
Speaker 3: Thought it's the thought of it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's mister stupid.
Speaker 3: But I'm gonna I'm gonna share this with people. So
Speaker 3: if you don't know what scabies are, escape bees are
Speaker 3: like little mite type parasites. They get they burrow under
Speaker 3: your skin. It is usually in a straight line like
Speaker 3: a pencil. And the reason why it is so bad
Speaker 3: is because they pee and poop under your skin.
Speaker 2: Now I'm gonna be worse. I didn't know that hard.
Speaker 2: There are cures. Get in there, Go get rid of that.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, what take care of the bugs? You wait?
Speaker 4: But kids get this all the time, you know. This
Speaker 4: is where I would mainly see things in the er,
Speaker 4: like little kids coming in with weird stuff like this
Speaker 4: just from the playground or.
Speaker 3: What we sell Moluscam contagiosum often in little kids or
Speaker 3: in uh like football players and stuff, and it causes
Speaker 3: little like warts all over your skin. They're little teeny warts,
Speaker 3: but they're highly contagious. And so because that is rampant
Speaker 3: in locker rooms and stuff, and.
Speaker 2: It's swimming pools, y'all, provided it wouldn't.
Speaker 3: Be uncommon to have like whole teams come in and
Speaker 3: have to get treatment, and they call them pedophla and
Speaker 3: drops and they are chocolate drops and it's it's like
Speaker 3: a brown acid that you have to put on these
Speaker 3: to burn them off.
Speaker 2: Jeez. So yeah, that none of that sounds fun.
Speaker 3: You can get them all over, even on the twinkie.
Speaker 2: Oh no, not the twinkie.
Speaker 4: Listen, when we tell if y'all want that special you guys,
Speaker 4: let us know, we'll talk about what can happen now
Speaker 4: you're young.
Speaker 2: It's good information to have. If you're old, it's probably
Speaker 2: too fucking late, but.
Speaker 3: You already have simplis. Don't worry about it.
Speaker 4: You know, all the good ones got simphless to the brain,
Speaker 4: like Howard Hughes simplest of the brain.
Speaker 2: Alcopine wasn't a good one, but you got simplest to
Speaker 2: the brain. But a lot of these really smart guys, right,
Speaker 2: or they just go cuckoo crazy like Meetschee. It's weird. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I had one of my very first patients that I
Speaker 3: had to take care of when I was in school
Speaker 3: and on the rotation in the nursing home was a
Speaker 3: lady that was like, oh, I don't know, like eighty
Speaker 3: six at the time, that had syphilis. Oh because the
Speaker 3: town that I grew up in back in the day,
Speaker 3: they called it the red light district.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, So yeah, she had the oldest job in
Speaker 2: the world. And we're not knocking it. But back then,
Speaker 2: m would I do it?
Speaker 3: No, it was just unusual. I was like, this lady's
Speaker 3: in a nursing home and she has syphilis, Like, how
Speaker 3: did she get syphilis? That's weird, my gosh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.
Speaker 3: And she told me all about it.
Speaker 4: Oh well, at least she remembered getting it, because sometimes
Speaker 4: things like that, Sometimes bad things happen in places she shared.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she shared a lot, like a little TMI.
Speaker 2: She shared a lot. You know.
Speaker 4: I had this really confused lady that I used to
Speaker 4: take care of, and she was fantastic. She her name
Speaker 4: was Gertie and she used to be a dancer. And
Speaker 4: she danced on like cruise ships, and she was pretty famous.
Speaker 2: And this one lady walked in front of her one day,
Speaker 2: and this girty had dementia and Gerty was always thirty.
Speaker 2: Gerty thirty right, and she wasn't she was old, but
Speaker 2: in her mind she was hot shit and she was thirty.
Speaker 2: And so she said to me, look at this fat
Speaker 2: ass lady walk in front of me. She was so mean,
Speaker 2: and she so the lady's butt was big, and every
Speaker 2: time she'd walk she'd say ka katunga.
Speaker 4: And I'm like trying to shut this lady up, right,
Speaker 4: Like I am seriously like having a moment. And I'm
Speaker 4: super Mormon at this time too. I'm like, stop, stop,
Speaker 4: what are you doing? And so she just she goes,
Speaker 4: I go, you know, Gert, you're not so great yourself.
Speaker 4: And she goes, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 4: I'm thirty and I'm amazing. And I thought, well, I
Speaker 4: guess it's not the worst thing that can happen.
Speaker 3: I don't know, say, I love talking to old people
Speaker 3: because if they can recall, they can share the most
Speaker 3: interesting stories with you. Always. That was my favorite prior
Speaker 3: to the job. But I also was not a fan
Speaker 3: of working on the Alzheimer's wing.
Speaker 4: It's it's it's fine for the people, it's sad for
Speaker 4: the visitors. Like her husband, like Gert was fine. Okay,
Speaker 4: she was in her own land, and she was thirty
Speaker 4: and flirty and fabulous, right, but she wasn't married at thirty.
Speaker 4: So this man that had been married to her for
Speaker 4: most of her life, she didn't know who he was.
Speaker 4: And so you know, she would scream at him sometimes.
Speaker 2: Get out of my room, and like, who's this all?
Speaker 2: She was mean? She was kind of mean, but she
Speaker 2: was hilarious. And who's this old motherfucker in here? Like
Speaker 2: he's old and ugly? Get him out of hair, like
Speaker 2: mean stuff to him. All that, and he just loved her,
Speaker 2: you know what. He didn't even care. He just loved
Speaker 2: her and loved her and her kids. She didn't know them,
Speaker 2: she I mean, she just didn't know anybody, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's said.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that part was bad, but like I said, for her,
Speaker 4: that's only painful for others. For her, she was fine,
Speaker 4: you know, I mean, I hate to say it.
Speaker 3: It was living her best life actually.
Speaker 4: What she was thirty and she used to tell me,
Speaker 4: I'm thirty and flirty and fabulous. I don't know what
Speaker 4: you're talking about.
Speaker 2: I was like old, like eighty and not that nebulous.
Speaker 2: But she used to just torture that one lady. I
Speaker 2: don't know why she was so mean to that lady,
Speaker 2: but she had it out for that one lady, and
Speaker 2: that lady hated her back. But if somebody was saying
Speaker 2: katunga behind my ass every time I walked, I would
Speaker 2: be upset too.
Speaker 3: I would just make a song about it. At my
Speaker 3: age now I don't really care.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's true, and she was older, but I
Speaker 2: you know this, that lady was pretty high strung. We'll
Speaker 2: say that.
Speaker 4: Oh but yeah, fun fun times. I was liked taking
Speaker 4: care of people in no matter if they're young or
Speaker 4: old or whatever.
Speaker 2: I don't do kids. So when I say young, I
Speaker 2: mean not peeds. Yeah see I didn't.
Speaker 3: I liked pads.
Speaker 2: That was that was you nick. You is fine, But
Speaker 2: when they know I'm coming for them, I'm out. Like
Speaker 2: kids know, when.
Speaker 4: They're brand new neonates, people are always like, oh, did
Speaker 4: you feel so bad poking them in the head.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, they don't care. They just lay there.
Speaker 2: They're super sick like they don't care. So no, I
Speaker 2: didn't feel bad. I was saving their life.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't mind. I didn't mind the kids
Speaker 3: so much because I actually got really good at that
Speaker 3: because I would talk to them about cartoons or whatever first.
Speaker 2: Do something to distract.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're better at it than I. They always knew.
Speaker 4: I think my nervousness like came through or something.
Speaker 2: But trauma that's my jam. Not now. I do psych
Speaker 2: because my body, you know, doesn't like to.
Speaker 3: Because my body said, psych, you're not doing trauma anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it definitely did.
Speaker 4: It was like, you want to break the rest of
Speaker 4: your back. Probably it's probably already broken, but I just
Speaker 4: don't know about it.
Speaker 3: Let's see if you can bend this way right.
Speaker 2: Pain is relevant.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you've always been in pain, that's a
Speaker 4: bad thing about Elers down most people or other people
Speaker 4: in chronic pain.
Speaker 2: It really has to be bad to get past the
Speaker 2: normal threshold to know.
Speaker 4: And so like when I was a kid and I
Speaker 4: broke my ankle because I rolled it seventy two times
Speaker 4: because Eeler's DWN lost right, I walked on it for
Speaker 4: three days and before I knew it was even broken.
Speaker 2: I mean I was in pain. People were like, weren't
Speaker 2: you hurting.
Speaker 4: I'm like, well yeah, but it did break it good
Speaker 4: enough to get some scar tissue to hold it still,
Speaker 4: so that was cool.
Speaker 3: Maybe you needed that, right.
Speaker 4: I mean I never broke it again, to be honest,
Speaker 4: and I had to have an MRI on it because
Speaker 4: it's the same side as that student thing, and they
Speaker 4: put in there a piece is like dislocated off, like
Speaker 4: I broke it off, and so they're like, probably from
Speaker 4: an old break, and I'm like, you're probably right.
Speaker 2: Didn't want to heal it took. Like I think I
Speaker 2: was in a cast the whole year. That year it
Speaker 2: was lame and I was like nine, So it's like,
Speaker 2: right at that time where you want to be active
Speaker 2: and you're running, I.
Speaker 3: Can't imagine that anything from Eiler's Dan Lows would be
Speaker 3: a longer recovery time.
Speaker 2: That was forever.
Speaker 4: It was like four fiberglass casts I think before it ever,
Speaker 4: and then I think they just gave up. I think
Speaker 4: they were like they were like, well, pick, she's walking
Speaker 4: on it, she seems okay whatever, let her.
Speaker 2: Go take the cast off. Yeah, that's all right. Well
Speaker 2: this one was fun. What we going to do for
Speaker 2: our next one. I can't remember. We got flu.
Speaker 3: Flexibility and our no no uh skeletal stuff and enjoying twins.
Speaker 2: Oh yes, let's do that all right. Next time, I'll
Speaker 2: have you send me yours like the way you have your.
Speaker 4: Notes, and I will match the pictures to your notes
Speaker 4: so we don't have to scramble around because that's kind
Speaker 4: of hard.
Speaker 2: And then we will get back with you guys on
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 4: And when it gets close to spooky season, we'll try
Speaker 4: and find our most fed up one for y'all, because
Speaker 4: that's why I.
Speaker 2: Edited the F word there. I've already said it like
Speaker 2: twice today.
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Speaker 2: We're dope.
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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me as always wonderful to collaborate
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