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<v Speaker 1>In company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven ninety

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<v Speaker 1>Holy crap, I don't know who.

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<v Speaker 2>The hell we think when we are get off our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Idiots.

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<v Speaker 3>The kids are crying to turn off.

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<v Speaker 2>The cultures are screwing it up.

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<v Speaker 1>Gold Play Inner Murals, Brother, gold Play Inner Murals.

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<v Speaker 3>They're supposed to be mature adults, but they're really not.

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<v Speaker 2>Who's the kid here?

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the kid here? Are you kidding me? Now? Here's

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<v Speaker 1>Nick Coffee?

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<v Speaker 3>Roughly ninety seconds ago, right before Austin Montgomery fired up

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<v Speaker 3>the theme song to get us started, I wrapped up

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<v Speaker 3>a phone call with Tony Vinetti. I don't say that

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<v Speaker 3>just to brag, you know, but humble brag. I do

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<v Speaker 3>know Tony Vinetti, He's a pretty big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But he went to Trinity, you know.

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if that was true, he would say

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<v Speaker 3>that more. I know. He's very humble, yeah about it, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>keeps it pretty private. But I don't know how this happened.

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<v Speaker 3>But as I look down after I had hung up

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<v Speaker 3>the phone, I really you know, it went right back

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<v Speaker 3>to my contacts because I went to my contacts to

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<v Speaker 3>call Tony and he I don't know if he did

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<v Speaker 3>this at one point, I don't see him having the

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<v Speaker 3>the I mean, I'm sure he knows how to run

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<v Speaker 3>a phone, but he has set as an emergency contact

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<v Speaker 3>on my phone, which is kind of scary. Like so

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<v Speaker 3>if like I end up in a ditch and they

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<v Speaker 3>don't know who to reach out to and they just

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<v Speaker 3>look for emergency, I don't even know how you'd said it.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably did it sometime, you know, on accident, because

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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't have done it intentionally. But what it's done

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<v Speaker 3>here is it does have me going from Wow, that's crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>They're gonna be calling Tony Vinetti if they found me

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<v Speaker 3>dead in a ditch. Yeah, And you know, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know if that's the right person they should call or not.

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<v Speaker 3>But now I'm thinking, you know what Tony kind of

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<v Speaker 3>has been. I mean, he's not an emergency contact kind

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<v Speaker 3>of guy. Wouldn't want to burden him with that, but

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<v Speaker 3>he has kind of been like in a professional sense,

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<v Speaker 3>like my my, my uncle, my big brother. So you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know if i'd rely on him to be

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<v Speaker 3>the guy that, you know, if I'm in a situation

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<v Speaker 3>and they just go and what is an emergency contact

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<v Speaker 3>for in your iPhone? Like do you have anybody said

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<v Speaker 3>have you ever even seen it?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>Now is it clear on here? Can you see like

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<v Speaker 3>where it's got.

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<v Speaker 2>That red Yeah, yeah, it says it right there emergency contact.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean I don't know if you have Tony,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, if you're cool enough to have Tony Vannetti's

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<v Speaker 2>number like you do anyway, I mean, wouldn't you want

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<v Speaker 2>him to be the first person that is called if

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<v Speaker 2>you're in a pinch, if you're in danger, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>in peril.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, he's he's he's given great advice over the years,

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<v Speaker 3>that's for sure, and he's he's been good to me.

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<v Speaker 3>But the benefit of having Tony as the emergency contact

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<v Speaker 3>is that he has no emotion like he's he's emotionless.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>He doesn't get sad, he doesn't. I mean, although I

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<v Speaker 3>have at times seen him, you know, kind of grow

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of a heart And it doesn't happen often,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's happened then you woke up. But but like

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<v Speaker 3>maybe when it comes to like I don't know, the

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<v Speaker 3>coroner who would have to whoever calls and says, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>you know we need to you're the emergency contact. We

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<v Speaker 3>need to discuss do you know, Nick coffee, we need

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<v Speaker 3>to talk about it. He would at least be the

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<v Speaker 3>guy they don't have to worry about, you know, losing

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<v Speaker 3>his mind and being hysterical because he's he's emotionless, like

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<v Speaker 3>there's nothing that would you know, He's never too high

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<v Speaker 3>too low. So anyways, like a crocodile, as always, I

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<v Speaker 3>get a little distracted as we get the show started.

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, I also just wanted to brag about, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I got tony of n Eddy's number.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I feel like I'm a pretty big deal

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<v Speaker 3>by being able to say that. But anyways, let's get

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<v Speaker 3>it started. Welcome in Happy hump day coffee and company

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<v Speaker 3>with you here on a Wednesday, a very very very

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<v Speaker 3>cold day, you were out and about for lunch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>is it still insanely freezing outside?

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<v Speaker 4>Fez?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, what's happened? And this is I would have

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<v Speaker 3>never even thought about this in any way if I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't witness this. So I was. I was coming from

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<v Speaker 3>Second Street to Muhammad Ali had actually I went over

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<v Speaker 3>to Southern Indiana earlier and came back on the Second

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<v Speaker 3>Street bridge just drove it straight down to Muhammad Ali

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<v Speaker 3>to take a rite and end up on the fifth Street,

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<v Speaker 3>which is where our garage is. But to the other

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<v Speaker 3>side there was somebody heading north and obviously there's there's

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<v Speaker 3>snow that has been plowed that's just kind of stacked

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<v Speaker 3>up on each side of the road, right like certain

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<v Speaker 3>people's driveways. If you've got a two lane driveway, it's

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<v Speaker 3>probably closer to one or maybe not even that, because

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<v Speaker 3>you've just basically been able to clear off a path

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<v Speaker 3>to where you can get your vehicle in and out.

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<v Speaker 3>So with this cold, freezing temperature, a lot of this

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<v Speaker 3>stuff that's been shoveled in different directions it's just sitting there, so,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, still frozen, but it's so cold outside that

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<v Speaker 3>it's not just like I mean, it's it's insanely frozen.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't, I don't know the right word to

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<v Speaker 3>use to describe it as being, you know, extensively frozen

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<v Speaker 3>more so than just you know, frozen. But somebody on

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<v Speaker 3>the other side they slightly maybe they were on their phone,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what it was, but they slightly veered

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<v Speaker 3>off to the right and they hit that hue, like

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<v Speaker 3>the frozen mound of snow that had been shoveled or

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<v Speaker 3>you know, plowed to the to the right side, the

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<v Speaker 3>front of their car, like the bottom of it hit

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<v Speaker 3>it and it broke, like.

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<v Speaker 2>It cracked it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, so when you run into this stuff that's piled up,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, you probably wouldn't want to do that under

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<v Speaker 3>any circumstance. But it's so cold that like you'll mess

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<v Speaker 3>up your car, like you'll like, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, ice blocks. Yeah, we'll be an iceberg.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is. In the streets that have just

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<v Speaker 3>been plowed to where it was just stacked up on

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<v Speaker 3>one side or maybe both sides, that stuff has frozen

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<v Speaker 3>to where it's essentially a humongous iceberg. And that's dangerous

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<v Speaker 3>as hell. I mean again, if you're going off the road,

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<v Speaker 3>that's always dangerous, regardless of the weather and the circumstance.

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<v Speaker 3>But we don't even have the full lanes in certain

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<v Speaker 3>areas because they just haven't been able to clear off

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<v Speaker 3>that much space. And if you do, mean you don't

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<v Speaker 3>even have to veer off the road. You can just

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<v Speaker 3>not be paying attention and realize, you know, you hit that,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll know right away, Like I I heard it

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<v Speaker 3>and it sounded like a car crash, and I guess

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<v Speaker 3>technically it kind of was, because the guy stopped and

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<v Speaker 3>got out and like you could just tell. But like

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<v Speaker 3>the front fender, it was an accurate one of those

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<v Speaker 3>what kind of accurate it was, but kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>sportier one that's set lower to the ground. And I

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<v Speaker 3>guess their front fender was. I guess a little. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like any car that made contact would have

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<v Speaker 3>would have had some damage.

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<v Speaker 2>It changed insurance information with pile.

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<v Speaker 3>I quickly turned right and just realized, like damn, that

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<v Speaker 3>that's for it. I would have never noticed it had

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<v Speaker 3>it not been for the noise, like it was loud.

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<v Speaker 3>And it makes sense because again that that's I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>that's as frozen as as can get. So it's very cold,

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<v Speaker 3>and uh, I'm glad that we did get the roads

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<v Speaker 3>cleared off because with this temperature the last couple of days,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just been absolutely freezing.

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<v Speaker 2>Today is and yesterday I actually got to use a

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<v Speaker 2>fiance's car just to run to the store. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>the first day during the snow during this snow mgeddon

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<v Speaker 2>Icemageddon that's been going on since when last Saturday, that

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<v Speaker 2>since my roads are so bad, So they're still bad,

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<v Speaker 2>right my side roads are still.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably worse than it's ever been, honestly, right, I can't

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<v Speaker 3>how cold it is.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't get it's it's I got. I have to

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<v Speaker 2>maneuver the car out like Austin Powers when he's stuck

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<v Speaker 2>in the middle.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the hallway.

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<v Speaker 2>I got a backup, and like I gotta find the

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<v Speaker 2>perfect sweet spot because I'm sly and the tires are

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<v Speaker 2>spending when I'm trying to leave my my parking spot,

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<v Speaker 2>which I left a cone out there for so no

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<v Speaker 2>one else parks.

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<v Speaker 3>In front of it. Yeah, I I mean there's probably

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<v Speaker 3>still roads out there. I mean again, your street is

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<v Speaker 3>in Louisville. I mean it's not even far from where

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<v Speaker 3>we stand, and it's ugly, and I mean there are

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<v Speaker 3>probably way more roads out there that just never got

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<v Speaker 3>treated and people have been able to kind of make do.

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<v Speaker 3>But when it gets this cold, it's it's a different

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<v Speaker 3>level of like frozen. I mean, it's crazy. So stay warm.

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<v Speaker 3>I think we're gonna get some temperatures above freezing here

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<v Speaker 3>before too long, which will start another process of the melt.

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<v Speaker 3>But this time of year, even if you do get

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<v Speaker 3>temperature in the you know, at forty that'll do some

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<v Speaker 3>damage to this as far as melting it. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>gonna get blow freezing when it gets dark, and like

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<v Speaker 3>I think, in all honesty, let's we get some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of a heat wave where we are above freezing for

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<v Speaker 3>like consecutive days around the clock. This is gonna be

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<v Speaker 3>here for a while, which you know, if it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>impact me, then it you know, no big deal. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't care. But I'm sure there's plenty of others that

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<v Speaker 3>that are to you. I mean, you just shared it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's still an issue. Your stream is still just a

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<v Speaker 3>big block of ice, which again is not ideal for us,

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<v Speaker 3>for anybody. All right again, Coffee and Company, that's us,

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<v Speaker 3>Nick Coffee, that is me. I hope you knew my name.

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<v Speaker 3>If not, now you do, and hope you remember it

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<v Speaker 3>to I hope to make an impression on you if

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<v Speaker 3>you are, if you are experiencing the Coffee and Company

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<v Speaker 2>Now you can now add producer to your list, producer

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<v Speaker 2>and show runner.

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<v Speaker 3>Produce Oh video.

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<v Speaker 2>No real, Well, I'm yeah, yeah, I got you.

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<v Speaker 3>I got you yesterday. I try to block that out

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<v Speaker 3>because that's something that puts me in a in a

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<v Speaker 3>negative space. But here you are gassing me up, giving

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<v Speaker 3>me props. And I appreciate that because yes, not only

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<v Speaker 3>did I host a show yesterday, but for two hours

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<v Speaker 3>of it, I was producing and it it it. We

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<v Speaker 3>finished the show. Like I was going to say we

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<v Speaker 3>had no issues, but I think we did have a

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<v Speaker 2>What is a country dance? A square dance? I guess

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, that too.

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<v Speaker 3>basketball once again, folks, because how about this team going

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<v Speaker 3>on the road last night and just beating the hell

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<v Speaker 3>out of Syracuse eighty five to sixty one. It is

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<v Speaker 3>nice to be able to have a level of expectation

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<v Speaker 3>that these guys are going to come out play really,

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<v Speaker 3>really hard, play well. I mean, look, they're due for

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<v Speaker 3>They've maintained a level of play since the beginning of

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<v Speaker 3>January that has been awesome to see. And I don't

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<v Speaker 3>see them slowing down. I know Syracuse stinks and know

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<v Speaker 3>the ACC stinks, but you know what, I don't care

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<v Speaker 3>because that's not something Louisville can control. And even if

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<v Speaker 3>all that is true, which it is, like I've said

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<v Speaker 3>it all year, the ACC is lousy this year, but

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<v Speaker 3>that doesn't have anything to do with how that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>factor in to Pat Kelsey and what this group's been

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<v Speaker 3>that thin get caught up in is Louisville fans being

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<v Speaker 3>about to go out and ending. By the way, the

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<v Speaker 3>bat signal for insecure Kentucky fans is Louisville fans acknowledging

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<v Speaker 3>their wind streak that they're in the tournament if it

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<v Speaker 3>started today, than being excited like we had the Kumba

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<v Speaker 3>Yao rivalry stuff, which you know still exist. I think

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville fans are having a hard time genuinely disliking Mark

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<v Speaker 3>many Kentucky fans feel the same way, but like, look,

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<v Speaker 3>just because Louisville fans are excited, it makes sense. They've

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<v Speaker 3>been terrible for years, We've been lifeless. Now we have

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<v Speaker 3>life and we're playing good basketball. We feel pretty good

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<v Speaker 3>about where we are. That doesn't mean that the Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>doing well, there's a segment of the rivalry where the

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<v Speaker 3>other side will weaponize that against you and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>make it seem as if you think that your team

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<v Speaker 3>is the best in the country. Like, no, it's not

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<v Speaker 3>the case. So I've been enjoying it thoroughly. But and

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<v Speaker 3>I probably don't need to throw this out there as

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<v Speaker 3>much as I do, but just to be clear, my excitement,

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<v Speaker 3>my love for this team as fun as it's been,

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<v Speaker 3>as I've been super repetitive about it throughout. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>this has kind of been reruns lately because here we

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<v Speaker 3>are coming in to talk about a louis basketball game

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<v Speaker 3>that happened the night before, and I'm still feeling the

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<v Speaker 3>same way I did for the last few weeks, but

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<v Speaker 3>even more so. Right this group is playing really good basketball,

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<v Speaker 3>and I think they have a chance to be to

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<v Speaker 3>be pretty good to where maybe they make a run

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<v Speaker 3>in the tournament and get to the second weekend. And

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that's a crazy thing to say. The

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<v Speaker 3>ACC being really down doesn't mean Louisville can't do that.

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<v Speaker 3>So both things can be true. Louisville can be a

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<v Speaker 3>team that's getting better, that has really kind of hit

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<v Speaker 3>their stride in this new version of themselves that doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>include case In Pryor and Korin Johnson like I think

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<v Speaker 3>they could. All that's true, but the ACC also can

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<v Speaker 3>be bad like and you know, as I've said all along,

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<v Speaker 3>use it to your advantage. So eighty five to sixty

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<v Speaker 3>one was a score last night, I mean just some numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean rain Smith continuing to be Rain Smith. I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he now after last night. I'll double check this,

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<v Speaker 3>but I looked at it this morning and I'm pretty

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<v Speaker 3>sure the stats were updated. Ray Smith is now averaging

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<v Speaker 3>more three point shots made per game than any player

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<v Speaker 3>in college basketball from the power four level. So I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>he had ten points of pretty quiet ten points last night.

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<v Speaker 3>And I bring up rain just because, you know, as

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<v Speaker 3>much as we've talked about the shooting struggles this team

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<v Speaker 3>has had at times, one they didn't have those last night,

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<v Speaker 3>but also even throughout that, rain Smith has come here

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<v Speaker 3>and been one of the best shooters in the country.

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<v Speaker 3>And then Chucky he burned. I mean last night, I

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<v Speaker 3>mean he was insane. I mean Chucky six of ten

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<v Speaker 3>from three twenty four points, I mean eight of thirteen

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<v Speaker 3>from the field overall, seven assists. I mean, the guy

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<v Speaker 3>was sensational. And then Javon Hadley, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 3>a quiet night. But we're talking thirteen points ten rebounds

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<v Speaker 3>on six of eleven from the floor and I'm pretty sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, listen to this stat line. Back to Chucky.

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<v Speaker 3>where does this? Yeah, Chucky didn't have a steal, which

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of surprising to me. But anyways, back to

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<v Speaker 3>Javon Hadley thirteen points, ten rebounds, three assists. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>when you're getting this kind of production consistently, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't mean you're gonna get twenty seven every night from

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<v Speaker 3>Chucky or thirty two every night like you did with

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<v Speaker 3>Javon against Clemson, but the odds of you getting one

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<v Speaker 3>of like four or five guys to really bring it,

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<v Speaker 3>at least one of them on any given night, Like

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<v Speaker 3>there's much more probability that happens than like one guy

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<v Speaker 3>needing to be great every single night. I mean, look, look,

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<v Speaker 3>this is your leading scorers in the last seven games

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<v Speaker 3>here last night Chucky twenty four against QES, rain Smith

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<v Speaker 3>Terrence Edwards twenty against dKu, Rain Smith twenty seven against FSU. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, this team, I think is legitimately in a

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<v Speaker 3>maintain this level of just you know, being locked in,

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<v Speaker 3>being so good defensively, and you know they just keep

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<v Speaker 3>doing what they're doing, this team could make a run

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<v Speaker 3>in the tournament. I mean, again, you could also lose

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody if you don't play well. But they've now

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<v Speaker 3>done this for a long enough stretch that it would

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<v Speaker 3>be a real surprise if they show up and aren't

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<v Speaker 3>playing with this kind of intensity, with this kind of togetherness.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's just it's been a really, really, really

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<v Speaker 3>fun ride. And last night again it seemed like like

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<v Speaker 3>the win against Pittsburgh felt to me like it was

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<v Speaker 3>the game where you had more national noise out there

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<v Speaker 3>about how good of the job Pat Kelsey's doing at

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville than we've had at any point. It's been there,

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<v Speaker 3>here and there, especially when they got off to a

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<v Speaker 3>good start in the Bahamas. I mean, it's been out there,

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<v Speaker 3>but the pit win it kind of took it to

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<v Speaker 3>a different level as far as Okay, anybody that's got

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<v Speaker 3>a platform that reaches a lot of people talking college

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<v Speaker 3>basketball went out of their way to make sure they

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<v Speaker 3>mentioned Kelsey and what he's doing at Louisville last night.

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<v Speaker 3>To me, it kind of felt like it was not

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<v Speaker 3>the national think these were some great games last night.

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<v Speaker 3>Louisville Syracuse was not one of them. But I think

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<v Speaker 3>the more that they keep succeeding and the more it

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<v Speaker 3>gets talked about, the more people are going to think, like, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Pat Kelsey's in his first year, guy from Charleston, good coach,

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<v Speaker 3>but he had to build a team from scratch. They

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<v Speaker 3>had no momentum. I know Louisville's great, but like Pat

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<v Speaker 3>deserves all the credit, but man, how did they get

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<v Speaker 3>so bad? How did they end up in that position

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<v Speaker 3>where they won twelve games in two years? And then

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it's like people I rarely hear it, but

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<v Speaker 3>occasionally you'll see somebody on Twitter, and in fact, we've

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<v Speaker 3>had a text or we've had a caller mention it.

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<v Speaker 3>Why you keep bringing up Kenny Payne. He's part of

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<v Speaker 3>the story, guys, he is, I mean, he's part of

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<v Speaker 3>He's gone. But like, one of the reasons why Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>fans feel so great about Pat Kelsey winning here and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, giving you some momentum is because of what

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<v Speaker 3>happened with Kenny Payne being here. It wouldn't feel as special,

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<v Speaker 3>this would be normal, this would just be I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>in fact, in let's go back ten years. If Louisville's

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<v Speaker 3>results ten years ago were exactly what we have right now,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what we're doing. We're probably bitching. We're probably

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<v Speaker 3>talking about how you were just beating all the teams

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<v Speaker 3>were supposed to beat and yet we ain't beat anybody

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<v Speaker 3>when it comes to Kentucky Duke and you know Tennessee

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<v Speaker 3>like that cause that that was where we were then.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not there now. So you know, the reason why

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<v Speaker 3>this feels so great is because of how bad things

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<v Speaker 3>were in the previous two years. And you know who

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<v Speaker 3>was responsible for that was Kenny Payne. So I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think a nobody's going out of their way to like

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<v Speaker 3>bag on him, but like the scenario where Louisville is

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<v Speaker 3>in this position with this kind of turnaround and fans

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<v Speaker 3>energized and excited at this level in Pat's first you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the first half season that he's been here. Kenny's a

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<v Speaker 3>part of that, like, and it's also a large It's

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<v Speaker 3>puzzling that Louisville was ever as bad as they were

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<v Speaker 3>to people that didn't experience it every day like we did.

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<v Speaker 3>So like, you know, I think Syracuse was a factor.

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<v Speaker 3>Like last night, I feel like the Kenny Payne stuff

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<v Speaker 3>just like it felt. It felt like fans of Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>and even others watching those reacting to it were thinking

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<v Speaker 3>to themselves, Man, how bad could Kenny Payne have been?

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<v Speaker 3>And again, like I get it, and we all know

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<v Speaker 3>the answer to that, he was really bad. But Syracuse,

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<v Speaker 3>some feedback when I tweeted it out, and I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>tweet it out when I wanted to. I waited because

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<v Speaker 3>I knew that if I tweeted out that Kenny Payne,

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<v Speaker 3>because let's be real, Syracuse looked a lot like Louisville

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<v Speaker 3>under Kenny Payne, they they're already better, Like they already

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<v Speaker 3>have eight wins this year. Like he did well in

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<v Speaker 3>his first year there at least, you know, he didn't

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<v Speaker 3>do well, but he did great compared to what he's

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<v Speaker 3>doing now. So nobody is ever going to be as

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<v Speaker 3>That's a fact. So with that said, I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to insult Syracuse to that to that extent, but they

421
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<v Speaker 3>got dudes on that team. They got dudes that can play. Now,

422
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<v Speaker 3>Louisville deserves credit for taking those guys away. But like

423
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<v Speaker 3>they went through the motions last night as a team,

424
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<v Speaker 3>Syracuse did with that thing got down that they were

425
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<v Speaker 3>down thirty points at one point. That was very similar

426
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<v Speaker 3>to what we watched, and it was kind of a

427
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<v Speaker 3>weird thing to to, you know, from I can only

428
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<v Speaker 3>speak for myself as a fan, but I'm watching and

429
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<v Speaker 3>I'm loving seeing Louisville just completely take advantage of a

430
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<v Speaker 3>lifeless team like Syracuse. But it also gave me a

431
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<v Speaker 3>little bit of PTSD because that was that was a

432
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<v Speaker 3>sad experience. That was that was awful. We all know that,

433
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<v Speaker 3>but man, it's nice to be on the right side

434
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<v Speaker 3>of something like that happening. And the comparison I'm making

435
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<v Speaker 3>here with Q's looking like Louisville under Kenny Paine is

436
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<v Speaker 3>that they're not. There's no scenario that that team like

437
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<v Speaker 3>would ever be great, but they're not even close to

438
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<v Speaker 3>getting what you should be able to get out of

439
00:19:27.839 --> 00:19:29.680
<v Speaker 3>the personnel that they have. And here we have on

440
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<v Speaker 3>our end, I think Pat Kelsey is absolutely maximizing every

441
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<v Speaker 3>bit of what you can get out of this current

442
00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:39.599
<v Speaker 3>situation with these players. And it's not just like, hey,

443
00:19:39.640 --> 00:19:42.039
<v Speaker 3>he's got a bunch of rudies out there, but he's

444
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<v Speaker 3>he's maximizing what he has to work with, and these

445
00:19:44.680 --> 00:19:48.960
<v Speaker 3>guys are getting better and getting more comfortable and coaching matters.

446
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<v Speaker 3>We all know that, We've always known that, but last

447
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<v Speaker 3>night was just another reminder of it. And I didn't

448
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<v Speaker 3>say this to be critical. And I'll expand on the

449
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<v Speaker 3>other side and give some more I mean, I don't

450
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<v Speaker 3>have any really belated thoughts on it, but I guess

451
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<v Speaker 3>I'll clarify. But it like last night watching Syracuse be

452
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<v Speaker 3>what they were and Louisville just take advantage of it

453
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<v Speaker 3>and kick their ass It's just crazy to me to

454
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<v Speaker 3>think that currently Louisville is paying more money for Kenny

455
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<v Speaker 3>Payne not to coach this season than they're paying Pat Kelsey.

456
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<v Speaker 3>That's not it. I'm just saying that's wild to process.

457
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not being critical. Pat came in on the contract

458
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<v Speaker 3>that made sense given where Louisville was. They made a

459
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<v Speaker 3>costly mistake in Kenny Payne, so they don't have the

460
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<v Speaker 3>ability to make another costly mistake, so they gave Pat

461
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<v Speaker 3>a contract that didn't pay him nearly what other coaches

462
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<v Speaker 3>here had been paid. But make no mistake about it,

463
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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna get paid here. I mean, I can't imagine

464
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<v Speaker 3>that he won't. I don't know when, but it'll happen.

465
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<v Speaker 3>Speaking of Kenny Payne, you know where he's at now,

466
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<v Speaker 3>Arkansas and they are dead last in the SEC. There's

467
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<v Speaker 3>a lot. I mean, it's been louder about Cal being

468
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<v Speaker 3>a bomb in Arkansas than it's ever been this season

469
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<v Speaker 3>because again they keep losing. And I can sense a

470
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<v Speaker 3>slight level of anxiety because Kentucky wins last night. They're great,

471
00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:03.599
<v Speaker 3>but I know some Kentucky fans are already thinking, like,

472
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<v Speaker 3>we can't beat Cal's first SEC went at Arkansas, and

473
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<v Speaker 3>that game's coming up in two weeks, and I don't

474
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<v Speaker 3>think it'll happen because Arkansas stinks. Kentucky's really good, but

475
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<v Speaker 3>it would also be you know, it'd be a real

476
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<v Speaker 3>bad look. It wouldn't mean anything. You're still probably gonna

477
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<v Speaker 3>be good regardless long term with Pope, but that would

478
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<v Speaker 3>give cal some great satisfaction. Then I know you don't

479
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<v Speaker 3>want to give him, so again, we're loaded the rest

480
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<v Speaker 3>of the way. I'll quit yap and we'll go to break.

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<v Speaker 3>It's coffee and Company, feel Abu thorntons right here on

482
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to Coffee and Company, fueled by Thornton's

484
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<v Speaker 3>This is just a good song, but I feel like

486
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<v Speaker 3>the chorus there it had had It doesn't really seem

487
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<v Speaker 3>like a Pat Kelsey vibe, but obviously the chorus would

488
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<v Speaker 3>be very fitting if in fact, you know, he gets

489
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<v Speaker 3>a new contract.

490
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>We talked a lot of bits yesterday, and I know

492
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<v Speaker 3>you weren't here, Austin, but louisvill has never been in

493
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<v Speaker 3>a position where they had to worry about somebody coming

494
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<v Speaker 3>after their coach because nobody's ever thought that they could

495
00:21:58.480 --> 00:22:01.799
<v Speaker 3>get Rick Bettin over Denny Crumb because of obvious reasons. Rick,

496
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<v Speaker 3>I mean, why would he go to another college in

497
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<v Speaker 3>Lead Louisville whenever He's got everything he needs and he

498
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<v Speaker 3>was really successful. And then with Denny, I mean, Denny

499
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<v Speaker 3>turned down UCLA whenever wouldn't retired. That was the sign

500
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<v Speaker 3>he's not going anywhere. So I'm not worried about it now.

501
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<v Speaker 3>And i didn't mean to put it out there. As

502
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<v Speaker 3>far as Kenny Payne currently this year making more money

503
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<v Speaker 3>not to coach than Pat is making to coaches. If

504
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<v Speaker 3>somebody did something wrong, I mean, to be fair, Yeah,

505
00:22:27.680 --> 00:22:30.839
<v Speaker 3>somebody did something wrong. They hired Kenny Payne. But you

506
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<v Speaker 3>can do about it now. It sucks. And as I've said,

507
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<v Speaker 3>as critical as I was about Kenny and how that

508
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<v Speaker 3>all worked out, and how there were some signs that

509
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<v Speaker 3>maybe you shouldn't do that hard for me to be

510
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<v Speaker 3>overly nasty about the decision to hire him, Whenever, if

511
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<v Speaker 3>I was in the position making that decision, which I

512
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:50.200
<v Speaker 3>never would be certainly not qualified, I probably would have

513
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<v Speaker 3>done the same thing because at that time you weren't

514
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<v Speaker 3>going to be able to get a name that we

515
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<v Speaker 3>were floating out there, and I was willing to take

516
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<v Speaker 3>a shot on Kenny because maybe he would be this

517
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<v Speaker 3>guy that was waiting for a bit opportunity that could

518
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<v Speaker 3>recruit at a really high level and develop players. And

519
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<v Speaker 3>then we learned that he's actually somebody that is the

520
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<v Speaker 3>most unqualified person at any level to be a head coach,

521
00:23:08.240 --> 00:23:09.920
<v Speaker 3>and that played out right in front of our eyes

522
00:23:09.960 --> 00:23:12.440
<v Speaker 3>every day. And again, I don't say this to be funny,

523
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<v Speaker 3>because it's not funny. This is not me being a

524
00:23:14.839 --> 00:23:17.160
<v Speaker 3>smart ass. I'm being genuine when I say this. I

525
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<v Speaker 3>greatly appreciate Kenny Payne's consistency because there was really never

526
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<v Speaker 3>at any point that we didn't see things on a

527
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<v Speaker 3>daily basis almost that told us this guy's not qualified

528
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<v Speaker 3>to run this program. And it isn't, you know, outside

529
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<v Speaker 3>of just the winning and losing like he didn't, it

530
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<v Speaker 3>just was, I mean, it was the guy was not qualified,

531
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<v Speaker 3>and you know, louisvill learned that the hard way, and

532
00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:38.400
<v Speaker 3>you know, people make mistakes and you got to move

533
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<v Speaker 3>on from it. And with that costly mistake, I think

534
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<v Speaker 3>that's why Pat Kelsey came in on a lower contract

535
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<v Speaker 3>than anybody's had at Louisville than a long time. And

536
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<v Speaker 3>I think that's also a factor in why you see

537
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<v Speaker 3>ticket sales being what they are, because you know that

538
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<v Speaker 3>was that was a costly mistake. And I mean that

539
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<v Speaker 3>you know there's no pun intended. It's when I say costly,

540
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<v Speaker 3>I mean it was a financial desas you're still paying

541
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<v Speaker 3>Mac right now, you're paying Kenny Payne, and you're paying

542
00:24:03.680 --> 00:24:05.599
<v Speaker 3>Pat Kelsey. I mean that's not ideal, but you know

543
00:24:05.920 --> 00:24:07.480
<v Speaker 3>nothing you can do about it but move forward. So

544
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<v Speaker 3>I imagine Josh Hurd will do right by Pat Kelsey whenever

545
00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:16.160
<v Speaker 3>he feels like he needs to and contract extensions. Let

546
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<v Speaker 3>me ask you this, if I'm just curious to see

547
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<v Speaker 3>what kind of reaction we get from listeners fans of Louisville,

548
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<v Speaker 3>I should say text line or phones five O two

549
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<v Speaker 3>I have seven one seventy nine hundred is a number.

550
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<v Speaker 3>If you guys want to give us a call, you

551
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<v Speaker 3>can text in on the Ellen and Federal Credit Unied

552
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<v Speaker 3>text line five O two six five three zero seven ninety.

553
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<v Speaker 3>If they gave Pad an extension today and gave him

554
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<v Speaker 3>more money, would would anybody be bothered by? I mean,

555
00:24:41.839 --> 00:24:44.680
<v Speaker 3>would anybody feel like, uh oh, we're gonna regret this later.

556
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<v Speaker 3>And I'm asking genuinely because right now things are going great.

557
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<v Speaker 3>I feel like to see what he's been able to

558
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<v Speaker 3>do in this first season in this situation, I mean,

559
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<v Speaker 3>it's a great early return on your investment, and you

560
00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.279
<v Speaker 3>feel like right now you got it right. Things could

561
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<v Speaker 3>obviously change, and who knows what the future holds, but

562
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<v Speaker 3>I just feel like it would be, you know, if

563
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<v Speaker 3>they did it. And I'm not saying they have to,

564
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<v Speaker 3>and trust me, I'm not bringing this up because I'm

565
00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:08.400
<v Speaker 3>trying to put like pressure on you of all to

566
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<v Speaker 3>do it. I just I kind of feel like if

567
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<v Speaker 3>they did it, nobody'd be bothered. But I'm not saying

568
00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:15.160
<v Speaker 3>it's necessary. As we speak, I mean, the season hasn't

569
00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:16.799
<v Speaker 3>ended yet. Things are going really great right now. I

570
00:25:16.880 --> 00:25:18.759
<v Speaker 3>doubt Pat's sitting around thinking, I hope I get a

571
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<v Speaker 3>call from my agent letting me know that that Josh

572
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<v Speaker 3>is renegotiating a new deal. But again, if they did,

573
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<v Speaker 3>I wouldn't necessarily be shocked because I mean, I think

574
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<v Speaker 3>Josh heard again. As much as there's criticism for him

575
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<v Speaker 3>making the decision to hire Kenny, and I'll give Josh

576
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<v Speaker 3>a lot of credit. He fell on the sword and

577
00:25:37.640 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 3>wanted it to be clear that it was my decision.

578
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<v Speaker 3>I did it, and that is true, but we all mean,

579
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<v Speaker 3>I know that there were factors at play that also

580
00:25:46.519 --> 00:25:48.839
<v Speaker 3>were you know, involved in that whole thing. You know,

581
00:25:48.920 --> 00:25:52.079
<v Speaker 3>I mean, he was at a tough spot, and you know,

582
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<v Speaker 3>as I said, if I was in the position. Again,

583
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<v Speaker 3>I'm not qualified, but if I was him, I would

584
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<v Speaker 3>have probably done the same thing, and I would have

585
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<v Speaker 3>you know, it would have been a mistake on mi

586
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<v Speaker 3>nd as well, and most people probably you know, there

587
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<v Speaker 3>were a lot of people bringing up the fact that

588
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<v Speaker 3>you would never hire a guy that had never been

589
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<v Speaker 3>a head coach before, and you know, that's a legitimate point.

590
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<v Speaker 3>I made that point when they hired Mike and people

591
00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:12.440
<v Speaker 3>were talking about Kenny. I just don't think you can

592
00:26:12.480 --> 00:26:14.480
<v Speaker 3>at Louisville do that. But they did it, and I

593
00:26:14.559 --> 00:26:18.039
<v Speaker 3>got it as far as I understood why, understood the circumstances,

594
00:26:18.119 --> 00:26:20.759
<v Speaker 3>understood the timing of it. But clearly it was a

595
00:26:20.799 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 3>mistake and we learned the hard way, and you know,

596
00:26:23.119 --> 00:26:25.000
<v Speaker 3>it sucked, but now we're heading in the right direction.

597
00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 3>So just like I'm not you know, I'm not qualified

598
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<v Speaker 3>clearly to be an athletic director making these decisions. There's

599
00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:34.200
<v Speaker 3>things that fans and I'm a fan, so I'm talking

600
00:26:34.240 --> 00:26:36.400
<v Speaker 3>about myself that like, we don't even really we just

601
00:26:36.440 --> 00:26:38.880
<v Speaker 3>want to win. Man, we care so bad about this program.

602
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<v Speaker 3>We've gone through so much in recent years with the

603
00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:43.519
<v Speaker 3>program just being so bad in a way we never

604
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<v Speaker 3>thought possible to where we're just thinking like, look, let's

605
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<v Speaker 3>get back on track. Let's go get a winner, let's

606
00:26:47.720 --> 00:26:49.839
<v Speaker 3>go get a name, let's just let's just let's get

607
00:26:49.839 --> 00:26:51.680
<v Speaker 3>this thing turned around. And the quickest way to do

608
00:26:51.680 --> 00:26:53.039
<v Speaker 3>that is, of course, get rid of Kenny. But then

609
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<v Speaker 3>it comes to who's next, who you're going to hire.

610
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<v Speaker 3>And Josh clearly saw something in Pat Kelsey that I

611
00:27:02.160 --> 00:27:06.039
<v Speaker 3>think others would see it too if it was highlighted,

612
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:08.599
<v Speaker 3>like if you said, hey, this guy, he's got the energy,

613
00:27:08.880 --> 00:27:13.480
<v Speaker 3>he's got the enthusiasm. He really will take the resources

614
00:27:13.559 --> 00:27:17.079
<v Speaker 3>this vehicle that is Louisville basketball, and he'll navigate it

615
00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.519
<v Speaker 3>as good as anybody because he's got all those intangibles

616
00:27:20.559 --> 00:27:22.519
<v Speaker 3>and he'll get fans excited. Because he's got that kind

617
00:27:22.519 --> 00:27:24.720
<v Speaker 3>of personality, he's got that kind of energy about him.

618
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<v Speaker 3>We all would have said, yeah, that's cool. But I

619
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<v Speaker 3>think what's played out up to this point as of

620
00:27:30.119 --> 00:27:34.039
<v Speaker 3>January fifteenth, what I'm seeing is that you know, Josh

621
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<v Speaker 3>clearly knew what that would do and how that would

622
00:27:37.279 --> 00:27:40.200
<v Speaker 3>impact us more so than we did. Because you could

623
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<v Speaker 3>give us a different coach and maybe they have the

624
00:27:43.920 --> 00:27:47.599
<v Speaker 3>same results. Right, Maybe you bring in Dusty May and

625
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.640
<v Speaker 3>you're in the same boat with the same record, same situation.

626
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<v Speaker 3>Maybe it's Josh Shirtz, maybe it's Scott Drew. Pat's part

627
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:58.839
<v Speaker 3>of this. The component that is hit Pat Kelsey, the

628
00:27:58.880 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 3>charisma that he has, the appreciation for the program, the

629
00:28:02.519 --> 00:28:07.039
<v Speaker 3>humble vibes that he gives, Like that's an added element

630
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:08.839
<v Speaker 3>that at the end of the day, winning and losing

631
00:28:08.920 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 3>is what we care about most. But man, Pat has

632
00:28:11.279 --> 00:28:14.720
<v Speaker 3>added a certain layer here that has made this more enjoyable.

633
00:28:14.880 --> 00:28:16.839
<v Speaker 3>And I think Josh Share deserves a lot of credit

634
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:19.480
<v Speaker 3>because his job is to get Louis of Basketball back

635
00:28:19.519 --> 00:28:23.279
<v Speaker 3>on track and to win. But you know, right now,

636
00:28:23.480 --> 00:28:25.359
<v Speaker 3>Louisvell's record, it's great. Like I don't want to act

637
00:28:25.400 --> 00:28:28.720
<v Speaker 3>like I'm discrediting their success because I'm loving it. It

638
00:28:28.799 --> 00:28:31.160
<v Speaker 3>is awesome. I didn't think they'd be here whenever they

639
00:28:31.200 --> 00:28:32.839
<v Speaker 3>lost case in prior and then they got blown out

640
00:28:32.880 --> 00:28:34.519
<v Speaker 3>by Ole Miss, Like I knew they could potentially be

641
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:36.920
<v Speaker 3>better than that showing, but like they've exceeded what I

642
00:28:36.960 --> 00:28:41.400
<v Speaker 3>ever expected to be what this team is. So you know,

643
00:28:41.640 --> 00:28:45.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm not acting like they're not playing really good basketball

644
00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.759
<v Speaker 3>and firmly positioning themselves to be safely in the tournament.

645
00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:52.839
<v Speaker 3>But that was a really long disclaimer to make it

646
00:28:52.880 --> 00:28:55.000
<v Speaker 3>clear that, like, I think they're great, but their record's

647
00:28:55.039 --> 00:28:56.799
<v Speaker 3>not crazy great, Like they're not off to like an

648
00:28:56.799 --> 00:28:59.920
<v Speaker 3>eleven and one start or something like that, but they're

649
00:29:00.039 --> 00:29:02.799
<v Speaker 3>they're playing hard. They are a reflection of the guy

650
00:29:02.799 --> 00:29:05.559
<v Speaker 3>on the sidelines and on our fan base. We eat

651
00:29:05.599 --> 00:29:09.279
<v Speaker 3>that stuff up more so than anybody, I feel like,

652
00:29:09.400 --> 00:29:12.200
<v Speaker 3>maybe not anybody, but more so than most. And with

653
00:29:12.279 --> 00:29:17.920
<v Speaker 3>that said, I mean, we'll never know and when it

654
00:29:17.960 --> 00:29:20.519
<v Speaker 3>comes to that, right hypotheticals that will never have any

655
00:29:20.519 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 3>clarity on Like it's sometimes stilly to even go there,

656
00:29:23.000 --> 00:29:24.839
<v Speaker 3>but I don't I think if you had to get

657
00:29:24.880 --> 00:29:28.519
<v Speaker 3>in the same situation, and it's one of those guys

658
00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.440
<v Speaker 3>I mentioned, I don't think you're getting anywhere close to

659
00:29:32.480 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 3>the amount of people showing up for games the way

660
00:29:34.880 --> 00:29:37.240
<v Speaker 3>you are. And I say that well aware that we're

661
00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.240
<v Speaker 3>still nowhere close to twenty thousand like we used to have.

662
00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:42.920
<v Speaker 3>So like there's a Kelsey element here that isn't you know.

663
00:29:43.359 --> 00:29:44.960
<v Speaker 3>What he brings to the table has been a factor

664
00:29:44.960 --> 00:29:47.000
<v Speaker 3>in this team being able to get the results they're

665
00:29:47.000 --> 00:29:50.000
<v Speaker 3>getting right now. But I think there was just clearly

666
00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:54.759
<v Speaker 3>more there's more interest and I guess just excitement because

667
00:29:54.799 --> 00:29:58.200
<v Speaker 3>of the way he goes about it. I mean, here,

668
00:29:58.240 --> 00:30:00.000
<v Speaker 3>I am glazing over the guy like he's the most

669
00:30:00.039 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 3>perfect coach of all time.

670
00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:02.279
<v Speaker 4>But he is.

671
00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:06.720
<v Speaker 3>He's he's perfect for us right now and I'm enjoying it. Man,

672
00:30:06.720 --> 00:30:09.200
<v Speaker 3>I really really am been awesome. All right, real quick,

673
00:30:09.200 --> 00:30:10.559
<v Speaker 3>before we go to the phone lines, if you're on hold,

674
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:11.759
<v Speaker 3>stick with us. I promise you we'll get to you

675
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:12.960
<v Speaker 3>guys in just a second. But I do want to

676
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:15.640
<v Speaker 3>share this this stat just because you know, it's it's

677
00:30:15.680 --> 00:30:19.400
<v Speaker 3>awesome and just another sign that Louisville basketball is getting,

678
00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:21.440
<v Speaker 3>you know, getting back to uh to where to where

679
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:26.359
<v Speaker 3>they belong. Right now, Louisville has won let's see, they

680
00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:28.519
<v Speaker 3>have six road games left this season. This is courtesy

681
00:30:28.519 --> 00:30:31.960
<v Speaker 3>of Kelly Dickey. Louisville has won more road games this season,

682
00:30:32.039 --> 00:30:35.400
<v Speaker 3>which is four, than they did the past three seasons combined,

683
00:30:35.400 --> 00:30:37.400
<v Speaker 3>which is three. And again that speaks to how bad

684
00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:40.359
<v Speaker 3>those three seasons were, of course, but still like they're

685
00:30:40.400 --> 00:30:41.960
<v Speaker 3>going on the road and winning and I know the

686
00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:45.359
<v Speaker 3>AC sees down, but I don't give a damn. It

687
00:30:45.480 --> 00:30:48.599
<v Speaker 3>keeps getting mentioned and I'm not gonna tell anybody they're wrong,

688
00:30:48.680 --> 00:30:50.839
<v Speaker 3>but like I want to, I want to get a

689
00:30:50.880 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 3>tattoo on my forehead for mostly just douguess triggered UK

690
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:56.920
<v Speaker 3>fans that are bothered by Louisville's excitement. I know the

691
00:30:57.000 --> 00:30:59.720
<v Speaker 3>A c C sucks be a weird tattoo, right, but

692
00:30:59.759 --> 00:31:01.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm need to do it. You got a guy Austin

693
00:31:01.839 --> 00:31:04.359
<v Speaker 3>who does your ink. Actually you're clean, aren't you?

694
00:31:04.440 --> 00:31:04.640
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

695
00:31:04.680 --> 00:31:06.680
<v Speaker 3>No, I do not you have you just have a

696
00:31:06.680 --> 00:31:07.440
<v Speaker 3>ton of piercings.

697
00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've always How did you know? Is that what

698
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:10.480
<v Speaker 2>we talked to?

699
00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:10.880
<v Speaker 4>Is that?

700
00:31:11.000 --> 00:31:12.960
<v Speaker 3>Is that why? Like I've heard people, I never understood

701
00:31:12.960 --> 00:31:14.839
<v Speaker 3>the reference, but I've heard people call you Albert before.

702
00:31:15.000 --> 00:31:18.200
<v Speaker 3>Is that now? I get it? Now? I totally prince. Yeah,

703
00:31:18.240 --> 00:31:18.559
<v Speaker 3>that's right.

704
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>I've always wanted a tattoo, but I've always I've always

705
00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:22.920
<v Speaker 2>kind of been a mama's boy too. My mom just

706
00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:23.960
<v Speaker 2>hates tattoos.

707
00:31:24.000 --> 00:31:28.039
<v Speaker 3>Awesome. I'm not anti tattooed by any means, because, like

708
00:31:28.319 --> 00:31:31.599
<v Speaker 3>I think people who some people look a tattoos look

709
00:31:31.680 --> 00:31:33.920
<v Speaker 3>great on people. I just know they wouldn't look great

710
00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:35.480
<v Speaker 3>on me. And there's nothing I would win on my

711
00:31:35.519 --> 00:31:36.160
<v Speaker 3>body forever.

712
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:38.839
<v Speaker 2>So like I don't live by like a Bible verse

713
00:31:38.960 --> 00:31:41.359
<v Speaker 2>or any like moral code or nothing in my life

714
00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:44.519
<v Speaker 2>has happened drastically where I need one just yet. But

715
00:31:44.680 --> 00:31:45.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not rolling out.

716
00:31:45.920 --> 00:31:48.279
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, I dad I'll ever get one, but

717
00:31:48.319 --> 00:31:50.799
<v Speaker 3>who knows, who knows? Maybe maybe maybe I changed my mind.

718
00:31:50.839 --> 00:31:52.960
<v Speaker 3>All right, let's go to the phone lines. Cody, Cody,

719
00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 3>welcome into Sports Talk seven ninety. How you doing, sir?

720
00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.440
<v Speaker 5>Hey Nick, what's happening, buddy? I got two quick things

721
00:31:58.480 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 5>and I want to hang it. I think that offered

722
00:32:02.559 --> 00:32:05.440
<v Speaker 5>him a five to six year contract extension, I mean

723
00:32:05.480 --> 00:32:09.920
<v Speaker 5>I warranted, But the way he's consuming the gas and

724
00:32:10.000 --> 00:32:13.440
<v Speaker 5>how quickly he's got the team together is I mean,

725
00:32:13.440 --> 00:32:15.880
<v Speaker 5>more than we can ever ask for. Honestly, at this point,

726
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:18.640
<v Speaker 5>I would be more surprised if they didn't make the

727
00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:20.400
<v Speaker 5>tournament than if they did and if you were told

728
00:32:20.440 --> 00:32:22.240
<v Speaker 5>me that at the beginning of the season, I would

729
00:32:22.240 --> 00:32:25.319
<v Speaker 5>have told you were crazy. I mean, from those this

730
00:32:25.519 --> 00:32:28.359
<v Speaker 5>is the old miss and Tennessee and the way they've

731
00:32:28.400 --> 00:32:30.799
<v Speaker 5>been playing, he's been getting the gas to get this point.

732
00:32:30.839 --> 00:32:35.920
<v Speaker 5>I would absolutely a contract extension is warranted. And more thing,

733
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.240
<v Speaker 5>Nick than I got my promise. I'm rambling here. You

734
00:32:38.359 --> 00:32:41.160
<v Speaker 5>got me going again. Do you think that if they

735
00:32:41.200 --> 00:32:44.680
<v Speaker 5>don't offer him a contract extension, do you see some

736
00:32:44.799 --> 00:32:48.000
<v Speaker 5>of these? I know there's not many per se bigger jobs,

737
00:32:48.359 --> 00:32:51.640
<v Speaker 5>bigger job waspening at like maybe like at a North

738
00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 5>Carolina or something like that. Pat Kelsey could be one

739
00:32:54.720 --> 00:32:58.079
<v Speaker 5>of those coaches the program later for him, the bad

740
00:32:58.799 --> 00:33:04.559
<v Speaker 5>offer him money to Hey, he would you maybe you're

741
00:33:04.759 --> 00:33:07.640
<v Speaker 5>you're you go be going, buddy. I want to hang

742
00:33:07.680 --> 00:33:08.519
<v Speaker 5>up and lift thank you.

743
00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:10.359
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you weren't rambling, my man, and that's always good

744
00:33:10.359 --> 00:33:12.200
<v Speaker 3>to hear from you. But the phone was kind of cut.

745
00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.279
<v Speaker 3>There would be like a stretch where I'm like, all right,

746
00:33:14.279 --> 00:33:16.839
<v Speaker 3>he's good, he's he's now no longer losing signal or

747
00:33:16.839 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 3>whatever it was, and then it would kind of revert back.

748
00:33:18.400 --> 00:33:21.880
<v Speaker 3>But I think your question was if if Pat Kelcey like,

749
00:33:22.079 --> 00:33:23.680
<v Speaker 3>if Louisvill didn't give him a new contract with one

750
00:33:23.680 --> 00:33:25.519
<v Speaker 3>of these schools, I think, right now, maybe this is

751
00:33:25.599 --> 00:33:29.319
<v Speaker 3>just me being biased. He has shown to have things

752
00:33:29.359 --> 00:33:32.119
<v Speaker 3>that are really really valuable right now in college sports.

753
00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:35.519
<v Speaker 3>The ability to motivate, he's relatable. He has seems to

754
00:33:35.599 --> 00:33:38.400
<v Speaker 3>have really good relationships and communication with his players to

755
00:33:38.400 --> 00:33:40.559
<v Speaker 3>where again they're they're a reflection of him, they're buying

756
00:33:40.599 --> 00:33:42.720
<v Speaker 3>in and they're also making money in an il. So

757
00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:45.720
<v Speaker 3>I think he he if he has a really great

758
00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:47.319
<v Speaker 3>run here and they finished, I don't know, maybe go

759
00:33:47.359 --> 00:33:50.039
<v Speaker 3>to the sweet sixteen. I just instantly would think no,

760
00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:51.799
<v Speaker 3>who would call and think they can take Louisvill's coach?

761
00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 3>But until he gets a new contract, you would you

762
00:33:53.519 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 3>would think that. My guess is that they'll understand that

763
00:33:56.279 --> 00:33:58.960
<v Speaker 3>Louisville will will you know, will do what they got

764
00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:00.559
<v Speaker 3>to do to keep him, and maybe that wouldn't make

765
00:34:00.599 --> 00:34:02.599
<v Speaker 3>him somebody that they would go after. So when it

766
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:05.079
<v Speaker 3>comes to extensions, like a lot of times they're not

767
00:34:05.160 --> 00:34:08.159
<v Speaker 3>like there's been so many extensions down the line that

768
00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:11.119
<v Speaker 3>people look back and say, wow, why did we do that?

769
00:34:11.519 --> 00:34:14.800
<v Speaker 3>Who was gonna hire him? That wasn't necessary, and there's

770
00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.719
<v Speaker 3>plenty of examples of that. So I guess what it

771
00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:20.639
<v Speaker 3>comes down to for me is like, is there a

772
00:34:20.639 --> 00:34:23.000
<v Speaker 3>scenario where, like two three years, we think, oh, my goodness,

773
00:34:23.039 --> 00:34:24.639
<v Speaker 3>can you believe we gave him that new contract and

774
00:34:24.639 --> 00:34:26.320
<v Speaker 3>now we're stuck with him? Like, I don't see that happening,

775
00:34:26.360 --> 00:34:28.000
<v Speaker 3>But you really never know. But when it comes down

776
00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:29.840
<v Speaker 3>to somebody just deciding, hey, I'm gonna I'm gonna go

777
00:34:29.880 --> 00:34:31.559
<v Speaker 3>give you more money, it's usually because they think you're

778
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:33.280
<v Speaker 3>gonna leave. They think somebody else is gonna come and

779
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.400
<v Speaker 3>get you. So my guess is that if they have

780
00:34:37.519 --> 00:34:40.079
<v Speaker 3>the strong finish that I hope they have, it'll just

781
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.599
<v Speaker 3>be a restructured deal. He will add more time, it

782
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:44.360
<v Speaker 3>will be more years at it, and he'll make more

783
00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:47.519
<v Speaker 3>money and we won't have to worry about it anybody.

784
00:34:48.039 --> 00:34:50.199
<v Speaker 3>I'm not worried at all about him being here long term.

785
00:34:50.360 --> 00:34:53.199
<v Speaker 3>It's just an interesting situation because he's off to such

786
00:34:53.199 --> 00:34:55.599
<v Speaker 3>a great start, and if that continues, we will be

787
00:34:55.639 --> 00:34:58.960
<v Speaker 3>in a position to where, I mean again, I'm not

788
00:34:59.199 --> 00:35:01.920
<v Speaker 3>faulting anybody, but we would be in a position where,

789
00:35:01.960 --> 00:35:03.960
<v Speaker 3>for the first time ever, as Louisville basketball fans, we

790
00:35:04.000 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 3>sit and think we need to make sure we pay

791
00:35:06.599 --> 00:35:08.880
<v Speaker 3>our coach, because if not, somebody's going to come and

792
00:35:08.920 --> 00:35:10.719
<v Speaker 3>try to get him if he stays at that price.

793
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:14.079
<v Speaker 3>My thing is, I don't see a scenario where Louisville

794
00:35:14.119 --> 00:35:17.480
<v Speaker 3>commits to keeping him at his said price if he

795
00:35:17.519 --> 00:35:19.360
<v Speaker 3>continues to win, because you get what you pay for,

796
00:35:19.400 --> 00:35:21.360
<v Speaker 3>and he is. I mean, he's making a lot more

797
00:35:21.400 --> 00:35:23.559
<v Speaker 3>money than he ever made at Charleston. There's no doubt

798
00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:25.079
<v Speaker 3>about that. He's making a lot of money. He's making

799
00:35:25.079 --> 00:35:26.760
<v Speaker 3>a lot more money than you, and I'm sure, but

800
00:35:26.960 --> 00:35:29.599
<v Speaker 3>this job, when it's done well and things are going great,

801
00:35:29.599 --> 00:35:31.400
<v Speaker 3>it pays a lot more than what he's making now,

802
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.960
<v Speaker 3>and everybody knows that, and he knows that. So you know,

803
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:36.519
<v Speaker 3>I hate even having the conversation, and it's my fault

804
00:35:36.559 --> 00:35:38.079
<v Speaker 3>out through it out there, But it just fascinates me

805
00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.840
<v Speaker 3>because I think fans right now would be totally fine

806
00:35:40.840 --> 00:35:42.280
<v Speaker 3>if he got a new deal that locked him in

807
00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:44.559
<v Speaker 3>long term, that included some big buyout and we may

808
00:35:44.639 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 3>learn years down the road that was a mistake, but

809
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.599
<v Speaker 3>so far, I mean, he's been that impressive. So I

810
00:35:50.639 --> 00:35:52.119
<v Speaker 3>talked about it a lot yesterday, and I don't want

811
00:35:52.159 --> 00:35:54.440
<v Speaker 3>to regurgitate too much from what was on the show

812
00:35:54.599 --> 00:35:57.280
<v Speaker 3>just to day ago. But with schools now having to

813
00:35:57.320 --> 00:36:01.000
<v Speaker 3>put the bill for revenue sharing and whatnot, that's just

814
00:36:01.000 --> 00:36:03.079
<v Speaker 3>going to have an impact on decisions like this, right,

815
00:36:03.159 --> 00:36:06.280
<v Speaker 3>getting coaches more money just because you know they're doing well.

816
00:36:06.440 --> 00:36:08.679
<v Speaker 3>But if anybody's deserved it, I would say that it

817
00:36:08.840 --> 00:36:11.239
<v Speaker 3>is Kelsey at this point. But again I'm also not

818
00:36:11.280 --> 00:36:13.039
<v Speaker 3>going to be like my guess would be that if

819
00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:14.679
<v Speaker 3>they continue to play well, he will have a new

820
00:36:14.679 --> 00:36:16.360
<v Speaker 3>contract at the end of the season, and everything's great

821
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:18.760
<v Speaker 3>and we're celebrating it. But like he also if he

822
00:36:18.840 --> 00:36:22.000
<v Speaker 3>got one next week or two weeks from now, I mean,

823
00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.280
<v Speaker 3>I can't say I'd be stunned. Probably not a probable

824
00:36:25.320 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 3>thing to happen, but he's got a lot of momentum

825
00:36:27.559 --> 00:36:30.519
<v Speaker 3>and it's been fun. All right, we got to get

826
00:36:30.519 --> 00:36:31.719
<v Speaker 3>to a break. We'll come back on the other side.

827
00:36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.199
<v Speaker 3>Get back to your phone calls, Jerry. I'll be up

828
00:36:33.199 --> 00:36:34.840
<v Speaker 3>next on the other side. So if you're on hold,

829
00:36:34.840 --> 00:36:36.320
<v Speaker 3>stick with us, give a lock right here on Sports

830
00:36:36.360 --> 00:36:36.840
<v Speaker 3>Talk seven.

831
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<v Speaker 1>Ninety Now back to coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's

832
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<v Speaker 1>on Sports Talk seven nine day.

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<v Speaker 3>I do want to talk about Arkansaw's awful start to

834
00:36:50.079 --> 00:36:52.719
<v Speaker 3>the Caliperi era. I guess Cali Perry's awful start at

835
00:36:52.800 --> 00:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>Arkansas's what I should say, because I enjoy seeing it

836
00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:59.039
<v Speaker 3>in a weird way, because Kenny Payne is the coach there.

837
00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.760
<v Speaker 3>I kind of like that. I don't. I mean, maybe

838
00:37:00.800 --> 00:37:05.719
<v Speaker 3>that makes me a bitter you know, bitter whatever, Petty,

839
00:37:05.760 --> 00:37:09.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't care. I'm enjoying watching Arkansas suck. But when

840
00:37:09.320 --> 00:37:12.599
<v Speaker 3>they come in to play Kentucky at the beginning of February,

841
00:37:12.599 --> 00:37:14.960
<v Speaker 3>I think it's February first. Well, Kentucky should be big

842
00:37:15.000 --> 00:37:17.159
<v Speaker 3>favorites there. But man like, if they lose that one,

843
00:37:17.199 --> 00:37:19.119
<v Speaker 3>it probably won't mean anything in the grand scheme of things.

844
00:37:19.119 --> 00:37:21.119
<v Speaker 3>But Kentucky fence cannot lie and act like it'll just

845
00:37:21.119 --> 00:37:23.280
<v Speaker 3>be whatever. That'll be a tough one to take, but

846
00:37:23.800 --> 00:37:25.760
<v Speaker 3>they shouldn't because they're clearly better. All right, let's go

847
00:37:25.760 --> 00:37:26.960
<v Speaker 3>back to the phone lines here to finish up the

848
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:28.679
<v Speaker 3>three o'clock hour. If I go to five seven, one

849
00:37:28.800 --> 00:37:30.519
<v Speaker 3>seventy nine hundred is the number if you want to

850
00:37:30.519 --> 00:37:32.400
<v Speaker 3>give us a call, Let's go to Jerry. Jerry, you're

851
00:37:32.440 --> 00:37:36.000
<v Speaker 3>on Sports Talk seven ninety what's happened? Hey, Nick?

852
00:37:36.079 --> 00:37:39.280
<v Speaker 4>He keeps throwing out subjects that I want to talk

853
00:37:39.320 --> 00:37:41.119
<v Speaker 4>about too, And it's not even the reason I came.

854
00:37:41.440 --> 00:37:45.760
<v Speaker 4>I'll give you a cal real quick. The reason call

855
00:37:45.920 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 4>I've I've been communicating a live with people on Twitter

856
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:53.159
<v Speaker 4>and stuff Arkansas people, and I keep saying his biggest

857
00:37:53.199 --> 00:37:55.199
<v Speaker 4>downfall is not shaking up his stay. If he's got

858
00:37:55.239 --> 00:37:56.840
<v Speaker 4>a bunch of yes man there, they're dead.

859
00:37:56.960 --> 00:37:58.800
<v Speaker 3>They're dead weight, absolutely, you know.

860
00:37:59.199 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 4>Now, now I'll say this cal, I was. I was

861
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:04.440
<v Speaker 4>looking forward to him going there knocking it out of

862
00:38:04.480 --> 00:38:06.599
<v Speaker 4>the park because I thought it'd be funny for all

863
00:38:06.639 --> 00:38:07.719
<v Speaker 4>the Kentucky.

864
00:38:07.239 --> 00:38:08.199
<v Speaker 3>Fans that I am here.

865
00:38:08.559 --> 00:38:11.760
<v Speaker 4>But he he ruined that when he hired Kenny Payne.

866
00:38:11.800 --> 00:38:14.280
<v Speaker 4>He ruined that for me. Because now I'm.

867
00:38:14.000 --> 00:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>With you, I didn't know what I would do. But

868
00:38:16.519 --> 00:38:18.480
<v Speaker 3>as it's played out, Jerry, I'm like, yeah, this is

869
00:38:18.519 --> 00:38:20.079
<v Speaker 3>awesome to see both those guys losing.

870
00:38:21.599 --> 00:38:25.519
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, here's the deal, okay, Uh, I didn't call

871
00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.000
<v Speaker 4>about the Kelsey contract. By getting my thoughts real quick,

872
00:38:28.480 --> 00:38:31.440
<v Speaker 4>I think Josh heard. You know, he's got to act,

873
00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:33.119
<v Speaker 4>and I don't know how quickly he has to act.

874
00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.039
<v Speaker 4>But he's also got to be physically responsible. Sure, And

875
00:38:36.039 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 4>and here's what I here's what I wish a d

876
00:38:37.760 --> 00:38:40.719
<v Speaker 4>S would do. Like, here's what I wish Kelsey would accept.

877
00:38:40.719 --> 00:38:43.440
<v Speaker 4>And I wish he heard would offer a heavy, heavy

878
00:38:43.519 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 4>salary and a low low buyout in case things go crazy.

879
00:38:47.320 --> 00:38:48.800
<v Speaker 4>You know, I think that's the way you got to go.

880
00:38:48.960 --> 00:38:50.880
<v Speaker 4>You know, you see these bows and you just scratch

881
00:38:50.920 --> 00:38:52.320
<v Speaker 4>your head and you go, what the hell are we doing?

882
00:38:52.360 --> 00:38:55.280
<v Speaker 4>You know? But you know, we are not that far

883
00:38:55.360 --> 00:38:58.360
<v Speaker 4>removed from nor Waterman bailing us out against Eku.

884
00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:00.840
<v Speaker 3>Yep, and man, how does that look now?

885
00:39:02.679 --> 00:39:02.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

886
00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:07.840
<v Speaker 4>So oh it's huge, so real quick your KP comment,

887
00:39:08.440 --> 00:39:10.199
<v Speaker 4>I can't believe that you said you would have hired

888
00:39:10.239 --> 00:39:13.320
<v Speaker 4>him too. I never thought that. Never he was He

889
00:39:13.400 --> 00:39:15.639
<v Speaker 4>was from the cow tree and that was enough right

890
00:39:15.679 --> 00:39:18.519
<v Speaker 4>there to say. And he never had been a head coach.

891
00:39:18.559 --> 00:39:20.199
<v Speaker 4>He was never willing to go out there. And it's

892
00:39:20.239 --> 00:39:22.840
<v Speaker 4>like I used to say, he was never willing to

893
00:39:23.639 --> 00:39:27.159
<v Speaker 4>bet on himself. I wanted the fat salary.

894
00:39:26.400 --> 00:39:28.480
<v Speaker 3>You were right, that was wrong.

895
00:39:29.800 --> 00:39:33.440
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So so anyway, the thoughts on the team, real quick,

896
00:39:33.679 --> 00:39:37.079
<v Speaker 4>very excited. Uh, Kelsey, I'm right now, I'll give him

897
00:39:37.079 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 4>a nine out of ten. I mean, uh yeah, Q

898
00:39:39.760 --> 00:39:41.679
<v Speaker 4>stinks and the A C C stinks. But you know

899
00:39:41.719 --> 00:39:44.760
<v Speaker 4>what we're doing. We're going up, We're not and having

900
00:39:44.840 --> 00:39:48.159
<v Speaker 4>e ku scorers. We're crushing some of these teams. You know,

901
00:39:48.159 --> 00:39:51.039
<v Speaker 4>we're burying them, and you know we're shooting a higher percentage.

902
00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:53.360
<v Speaker 4>Blah blah blah We're doing. But I will say this,

903
00:39:54.079 --> 00:39:57.400
<v Speaker 4>after case in Pryor got hurt, I was crushed. I thought, Man,

904
00:39:58.320 --> 00:40:01.480
<v Speaker 4>it's not gonna it's not gonna happen year. And the

905
00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 4>job they have done is unbelievable. I'm cautiously optimistic. I

906
00:40:07.280 --> 00:40:09.480
<v Speaker 4>still go into every game looking at it as a

907
00:40:09.559 --> 00:40:11.519
<v Speaker 4>fifty to fifty. I know the other day on the show,

908
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:14.119
<v Speaker 4>you said that a lot of them on the ESPN

909
00:40:14.440 --> 00:40:17.920
<v Speaker 4>percentages is like fifty two to forty eight. We're a favorite,

910
00:40:17.920 --> 00:40:21.320
<v Speaker 4>but we're not a heavy favorite, you know. And so

911
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:27.360
<v Speaker 4>another thing real quick, Syrahcuse and IU, they both last

912
00:40:27.440 --> 00:40:29.559
<v Speaker 4>night were so similar to where we've been.

913
00:40:29.760 --> 00:40:30.000
<v Speaker 3>Yep.

914
00:40:30.119 --> 00:40:32.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if you saw the pictures of IU

915
00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:34.280
<v Speaker 4>students section after halftime.

916
00:40:34.440 --> 00:40:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I saw the clip of them yelling fire woodson. That

917
00:40:37.159 --> 00:40:39.760
<v Speaker 3>was I mean, that's not that surprising, I guess, but

918
00:40:39.840 --> 00:40:42.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean that, I mean that was allowed. I mean

919
00:40:42.599 --> 00:40:44.440
<v Speaker 3>there was a lot of people all on board with it.

920
00:40:44.480 --> 00:40:48.039
<v Speaker 3>As they were getting embarrassed on their home floor, they.

921
00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:51.199
<v Speaker 4>Emptied out of there. And there's a picture on Twitter

922
00:40:51.280 --> 00:40:55.199
<v Speaker 4>that's unbelievable. There's not i mean the top fifty rows,

923
00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:59.800
<v Speaker 4>there's one guy sitting there. But the hires they've made,

924
00:41:00.480 --> 00:41:05.719
<v Speaker 4>alumni hires just typically do not work. Brom's working pretty good,

925
00:41:06.599 --> 00:41:10.320
<v Speaker 4>but besides that, it just seems like it's not working.

926
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:12.719
<v Speaker 3>If you're hiring a guy and the biggest component as

927
00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:15.199
<v Speaker 3>to why you're hiring him is because of the connection

928
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.559
<v Speaker 3>that I've learned Jerry, that that seems to be the

929
00:41:17.599 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 3>red flag right with Brom. We would have hired him

930
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:21.920
<v Speaker 3>if he didn't coach here because he was doing well

931
00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:23.559
<v Speaker 3>at Purdue, and he also would have never come to

932
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:26.360
<v Speaker 3>Louisville had he not played here. But I think that's

933
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:28.639
<v Speaker 3>what's played out, is like Kenny, nobody else was going

934
00:41:28.719 --> 00:41:30.760
<v Speaker 3>to hire Kenny, but we did. Right, Nobody else from

935
00:41:30.760 --> 00:41:32.719
<v Speaker 3>the college game was going to hire Woodson, but they did.

936
00:41:32.760 --> 00:41:34.599
<v Speaker 3>And not to say those guys didn't have at least

937
00:41:34.639 --> 00:41:36.400
<v Speaker 3>something on the resume. Kenny never been a head coach

938
00:41:36.440 --> 00:41:38.800
<v Speaker 3>Woodson had never coached in college. But what was the

939
00:41:38.800 --> 00:41:41.119
<v Speaker 3>biggest factor in their decision was that they went there.

940
00:41:41.159 --> 00:41:43.039
<v Speaker 3>And again, I think when you really evaluate, and that's

941
00:41:43.039 --> 00:41:44.679
<v Speaker 3>where I go back to, you were right, I was wrong.

942
00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:47.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, Kenny had never been on himself and there

943
00:41:47.960 --> 00:41:49.760
<v Speaker 3>it was a risk. It was a huge risk at

944
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:51.159
<v Speaker 3>a time where you didn't really want to take a

945
00:41:51.159 --> 00:41:54.519
<v Speaker 3>big risk having a guy leads your program who had

946
00:41:54.599 --> 00:41:59.039
<v Speaker 3>never done the job before. So, yeah, the hires because

947
00:41:59.079 --> 00:42:02.840
<v Speaker 3>guys have that connect. If that's the strongest component to

948
00:42:03.280 --> 00:42:05.119
<v Speaker 3>you wanting to hire them, that should tell you all

949
00:42:05.159 --> 00:42:05.599
<v Speaker 3>you need to know.

950
00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:08.960
<v Speaker 4>A couple more things I'll get off here. I appreciate

951
00:42:09.239 --> 00:42:15.400
<v Speaker 4>the time. Okay, yesterday you somebody texted in and you

952
00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:18.480
<v Speaker 4>talked about last year's team for a second, and you

953
00:42:18.599 --> 00:42:22.039
<v Speaker 4>touched on Mike James. Mike James has not played this year,

954
00:42:22.719 --> 00:42:25.639
<v Speaker 4>really is not played. He is not played for NC State,

955
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:29.119
<v Speaker 4>And Dennis Evans has not played for Grand Canyon either.

956
00:42:29.159 --> 00:42:31.239
<v Speaker 4>I knew that deep dive on that. I did a

957
00:42:31.280 --> 00:42:34.639
<v Speaker 4>deep dive on that whole team yesterday. The only guys

958
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:38.400
<v Speaker 4>that are starting consistently are Trey White and Sky Clark.

959
00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:42.519
<v Speaker 4>Everybody else, even even Caleb Glenn, who's doing great. He's

960
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.360
<v Speaker 4>coming off the bench, but most of the guys are

961
00:42:45.400 --> 00:42:49.880
<v Speaker 4>not starting hurt. He's hurt.

962
00:42:50.039 --> 00:42:52.480
<v Speaker 3>I was looking at his numbers. It's from last year,

963
00:42:52.599 --> 00:42:55.239
<v Speaker 3>not this year. Thank you for Clark correcting me.

964
00:42:56.320 --> 00:42:58.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm hoping he gets a red shirt because I like

965
00:42:58.360 --> 00:43:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Mike James. But anyway, one more thing. Did you see

966
00:43:01.239 --> 00:43:05.199
<v Speaker 4>did you see where the kid from Vandy last night

967
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:07.920
<v Speaker 4>had his first turnover of the season. He's played over

968
00:43:08.000 --> 00:43:11.880
<v Speaker 4>three hundred minutes. His name's Tyler Tanner. He's got thirty

969
00:43:11.920 --> 00:43:14.280
<v Speaker 4>three assist and one turnover.

970
00:43:14.840 --> 00:43:16.480
<v Speaker 2>I just that shout out to that.

971
00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:17.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I mean that.

972
00:43:17.880 --> 00:43:20.920
<v Speaker 4>Is unbelievable, you know. So that's all I got, buddy.

973
00:43:20.719 --> 00:43:23.280
<v Speaker 3>Thank appreciating, appreciate it, Jerry. Good to hear from you. Yeah,

974
00:43:23.320 --> 00:43:28.079
<v Speaker 3>thirty three assist in one turnover. That's that's very impressive.

975
00:43:28.079 --> 00:43:29.880
<v Speaker 3>And it'd be different if he didn't play a lot

976
00:43:29.920 --> 00:43:33.239
<v Speaker 3>he does. He's averaging seven points a game, so impressive,

977
00:43:33.239 --> 00:43:36.199
<v Speaker 3>no doubt. Now when it comes to the you know,

978
00:43:36.199 --> 00:43:39.079
<v Speaker 3>when it comes to Josh Hurd and you know, the

979
00:43:39.079 --> 00:43:43.760
<v Speaker 3>fiscal resp Like the reason I keep talking about it,

980
00:43:43.800 --> 00:43:45.800
<v Speaker 3>I've done it two straight days, is not because like

981
00:43:45.840 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 3>I'm I'm thinking somebody messed up and didn't give Kelsey

982
00:43:49.360 --> 00:43:51.719
<v Speaker 3>more money when he signed on. It's not because I'm thinking,

983
00:43:51.760 --> 00:43:53.519
<v Speaker 3>as we sit here today and he doesn't have a

984
00:43:53.519 --> 00:43:56.079
<v Speaker 3>new contract, somebody's did something wrong. I just find it

985
00:43:56.119 --> 00:43:59.119
<v Speaker 3>fascinating because this is an unusual spot for Louisville fans

986
00:43:59.119 --> 00:44:00.880
<v Speaker 3>to feel like, all right, we got to cut the

987
00:44:00.920 --> 00:44:03.519
<v Speaker 3>check because we know we're paying less than we typically

988
00:44:03.599 --> 00:44:05.920
<v Speaker 3>do one because Pat was going to get a big

989
00:44:06.000 --> 00:44:08.719
<v Speaker 3>rais jumping from Charleston to Louisville, but also because of

990
00:44:09.280 --> 00:44:11.840
<v Speaker 3>the costly mistake that was made with KP. So I'm

991
00:44:11.840 --> 00:44:13.800
<v Speaker 3>just fascinate to see how it plays out. I believe

992
00:44:14.000 --> 00:44:15.840
<v Speaker 3>firmly that it'll play out where he gets a new

993
00:44:15.840 --> 00:44:17.440
<v Speaker 3>deal at some point and he's here as long as

994
00:44:17.440 --> 00:44:19.559
<v Speaker 3>he wants to be here, if he continues to have success.

995
00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:23.280
<v Speaker 3>But it's just, you know, unfamiliar territory, I guess, but

996
00:44:23.400 --> 00:44:24.760
<v Speaker 3>that should be expected to give it the fact that

997
00:44:24.800 --> 00:44:26.960
<v Speaker 3>the territory we were in the last couple of years.

998
00:44:27.039 --> 00:44:28.920
<v Speaker 3>Same thing, all right, we got to run two more

999
00:44:28.920 --> 00:44:30.400
<v Speaker 3>hours left though, And I do want to talk about

1000
00:44:30.440 --> 00:44:33.119
<v Speaker 3>Indiana kind of where they go, and I rarely can

1001
00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 3>say I told you so, and I guess I can't

1002
00:44:34.800 --> 00:44:36.639
<v Speaker 3>really do that yet, but I felt like last night

1003
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:38.960
<v Speaker 3>was going to be either a blowout loss for Indiana

1004
00:44:39.239 --> 00:44:42.719
<v Speaker 3>that sends them in a level of toxicity they've not

1005
00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:45.480
<v Speaker 3>experienced yet under MIKEA. Woodson, or they were going to

1006
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 3>get a win to kind of confirm that despite sort

1007
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 3>of a worse start than they expected, they can still

1008
00:44:52.320 --> 00:44:54.639
<v Speaker 3>be pretty good. But they ended up getting blown out,

1009
00:44:54.719 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 3>and like, Woodson's got to be done at the end

1010
00:44:57.440 --> 00:44:59.840
<v Speaker 3>of the year, I mean, right, I mean, in fact,

1011
00:44:59.679 --> 00:45:02.400
<v Speaker 3>I he's kind of at a level now where their

1012
00:45:02.440 --> 00:45:04.760
<v Speaker 3>decision to bring him back in it already working out

1013
00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.880
<v Speaker 3>pretty poorly right now. It wouldn't be a crazy thing

1014
00:45:07.880 --> 00:45:10.000
<v Speaker 3>if they fired in midseason, just because they're in a

1015
00:45:10.000 --> 00:45:13.239
<v Speaker 3>position now where they need fans to not be as

1016
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.000
<v Speaker 3>dejected as they are, because clearly there were some fans

1017
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:17.880
<v Speaker 3>that thought Woodson shouldn't have been back this year. He

1018
00:45:17.880 --> 00:45:20.039
<v Speaker 3>did come back. He built a really good team as

1019
00:45:20.079 --> 00:45:23.239
<v Speaker 3>far as talent, but he's not leading it. And when

1020
00:45:23.239 --> 00:45:25.079
<v Speaker 3>they get beat, they get blown out, they just roll

1021
00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:28.920
<v Speaker 3>over Louisville. Louisville did it to him just a month

1022
00:45:29.000 --> 00:45:31.039
<v Speaker 3>or two ago. Whenever it was and here they are again.

1023
00:45:31.079 --> 00:45:32.960
<v Speaker 3>Once they hit adversity and they play good teams, they

1024
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.320
<v Speaker 3>get bent over. All right, quick break will come back.

1025
00:45:35.320 --> 00:45:36.960
<v Speaker 3>Two more hours left right here on Sports Talk seven

1026
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:39.000
<v Speaker 3>ninety
