Speaker 1: To find you.
Speaker 2: Hey, it's actually Josh told the wife's phone for this.
Speaker 3: How you doing, man?
Speaker 1: Good?
Speaker 2: Hey man, Christo Sinasty some of your thoughts on this man,
Speaker 2: So you know you've talked a good bit about you
Speaker 2: the problem of the humanism within Orthodox circles and stuff.
Speaker 2: I've actually called him before about some of that, and
Speaker 2: I always have good stuff to say you.
Speaker 3: That is not me anyway.
Speaker 2: I was reading the classic Calistos War's book The Orthodox Church,
Speaker 2: and correct me if I'm wrong, but I definitely believe
Speaker 2: I saw some like proto ecumenist strains of thought. There
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff that almost seemed critical of our
Speaker 2: own history. And uh, I just you know, when you
Speaker 2: have these old timy Anglican converts to correct Orthodoxy like that,
Speaker 2: is that a common thing in those academic circles.
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, yes, unfortunately it is. And he wrote some pro
Speaker 1: Skittles articles towards his end of his life before he
Speaker 1: passed away. So he unfortunately drifted in a very bad direction.
Speaker 1: There's some bad things in uh Orthodox way has an
Speaker 1: a pocket destasis universalist statement. There's also a statement that's
Speaker 1: the Protestant PSA view. So he fell into PSA and
Speaker 1: so the sun was damned. But yeah, and then even
Speaker 1: in that, he's the editor of that book, The Bible
Speaker 1: and the Fathers, that follows the liturgical readings, and he
Speaker 1: includes C. I. Schofield commentaries and the Orthodox just so ridiculous,
Speaker 1: like why in the world would you put that in there.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately callis was where it started pretty good and
Speaker 1: faded into some pretty bad stuff. So but yes, in
Speaker 1: another father, Stephen Freeman, unfortunately, who's I think less active
Speaker 1: these days than he used to be, is also very
Speaker 1: notorious for some of the same Anglicans sort of in
Speaker 1: his case modernist approaches to the Bible. So the Bible
Speaker 1: for him is all higher criticism. And I made some
Speaker 1: videos years ago when I first started my channel or Assuman,
Speaker 1: when I first started doing Orthodox videos and calling those
Speaker 1: things out, and lo and behold, that caused inadvertently a
Speaker 1: huge kerfluffle, which I didn't realize. My channel was much
Speaker 1: smaller back then, but somehow that got around and that
Speaker 1: ended up getting like twenty or thirty thousand views, which
Speaker 1: is pretty big viewage back then for a small channel.
Speaker 4: And that made a lot of Orthodox people mad.
Speaker 1: At me, because you know, who who's this new convert
Speaker 1: who's talking about higher criticism or whatever. Well, it turns out, yeah,
Speaker 1: higher criticism is antithetical to Christianity. Social logo.
Speaker 5: What's up, dude, socio logo.
Speaker 1: I'mut man.
Speaker 3: Ain't kay? Hello, Hey, I have a question of philosophy.
Speaker 3: Can I ask you? Okay?
Speaker 6: So I was arguing with these LGBT persons some days ago,
Speaker 6: and we are, you know, debating about homosexuality and all that.
Speaker 3: And he used the argument that you.
Speaker 6: Can find homosexual behavior in animals and since the beginning of.
Speaker 3: Times, the all civilizations.
Speaker 6: And I answer that saying that you can also find
Speaker 6: you know, rape, murder and all that in all civilizations too,
Speaker 6: and in animals and oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean animals. Animals eat, they're young too, So
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, retarded argument.
Speaker 6: And he answered that saying that it wasn't fair of
Speaker 6: my part to compare two adults agreeing to love each other.
Speaker 1: And you know, he's moving the goal posts. He's moving
Speaker 1: the goalposts and being our tree. So if in a naturalist, atheist,
Speaker 1: materialist worldview, an adult is really a meaningless construct for
Speaker 1: the same collection of molecules, so it doesn't matter that
Speaker 1: he moves the goalpost to quote adult. And by the way,
Speaker 1: how does he know what the cutoff is amongst an
Speaker 1: adult and a non adult. It would all just be arbitrary.
Speaker 1: So it's a version of the naturalist fallacy. Right, Oh well,
Speaker 1: it's just natural for people, for animals, for people to
Speaker 1: do this because animals do it. Well, what is how
Speaker 1: do we know what's natural?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: So this is just a version of the naturalist fallacy.
Speaker 4: All you have to do is point.
Speaker 1: Out fallacies, right, Just like when that idiot Freemason was
Speaker 1: on here earlier, right, he started off with like four
Speaker 1: different fallacies. I'm like, dude, get out of here. Leave
Speaker 1: it to Ethan ten dollars. All the podcasts on the
Speaker 1: tour have been great. The Jamie Kennedy episode was hilarious.
Speaker 1: Thank you man, I appreciate that. Yeah, it came out great.
Speaker 1: And Jamie's episode was really funny too, because Jamie Kennedy
Speaker 1: had the same meltdown over the moth that he had
Speaker 1: with me and made for like unintentional, bizarre, weird comedy on.
Speaker 4: Its own and the other thing that's funny too.
Speaker 1: And people get mad at Jamie Kennedy when you're on
Speaker 1: his podcast because he's like, stop joking, stop that impressions
Speaker 1: and then you think, oh man, he's gonna get mad
Speaker 1: because it wasn't and then he'll start doing the impressions
Speaker 1: and started joking around. So it's like and people were
Speaker 1: getting angry in the chat and fussing at him, and
Speaker 1: it's like, dude, this is his show, right, Like if
Speaker 1: you remember Jamie Kennedy experiment, that's what he does.
Speaker 4: Like he he likes to.
Speaker 1: Kind of mess with and troll the guests. That's part
Speaker 1: of the whole stick. And it was the same with
Speaker 1: Jesse Lee Peterson, as you guys will see because that
Speaker 1: episode will be coming out this week as well in
Speaker 1: the next i think six days, so look for the
Speaker 1: Kurioku interview and the Jesse Lee Peterson interview coming out
Speaker 1: this week. And uh, you know, Jesse Lee Peterson likes
Speaker 1: to troll his guests as well a little bit. And
Speaker 1: it's actually funny because you don't know, is is Jesse crazy?
Speaker 1: He is he domb? Is he serious? Is he joking?
Speaker 4: And that that.
Speaker 1: Uh, destabilizing effect that he has is actually what makes
Speaker 1: for the unintentional intentional comedy. So you know that's millennial
Speaker 1: humor anyway, right, all that irony whatever kind of insanity stuff.
Speaker 1: I mean when when Jesse Lee Peterson was on.
Speaker 7: With Sam Hyde, he was like, do you realize you
Speaker 7: had never done nothing wrong in your life? Do you
Speaker 7: do you realize you had never seen in your life?
Speaker 7: You had never done nothing wrong? And Sam's like, I'm
Speaker 7: pretty sure I have now you had not? And if
Speaker 7: you could have perfect peace right now, would you have
Speaker 7: perfect peace?
Speaker 1: And then so then when he's interviewing interviewing me, he goes,
Speaker 1: do you forgive your mother for what she had done
Speaker 1: to you? And I'm like, what do you forgive?
Speaker 8: Y'all?
Speaker 1: Mobile? I'll evil called fruit of Mobile. And I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, I thought you told Sam Hi then
Speaker 1: nobody ever sinned. It's an illusion, So how could my
Speaker 1: mom have done me wrong? If nobody sins And it's
Speaker 1: just like it's crazy, right, But I guess that's part
Speaker 1: of the fun.
Speaker 4: Ken.
Speaker 1: By the way, I trolled him back, and I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna I'm not gonna tell you how I trolled him back,
Speaker 1: but I think I got him pretty good, Ken Fresno.
Speaker 1: And I don't just mean impersonating him to his face,
Speaker 1: I mean actually trolling distantly Peterson tripping him up a bit.
Speaker 1: It was fun though, MKG seven dollars. Christos a nasty god.
Speaker 1: Bless you for bringing me inn orthodoxy. Here's many more
Speaker 1: cringe core records is signing yours? Are they signing a
Speaker 1: new artist at the moment? Well, I'll tell you what.
Speaker 1: Uh Doctor Evo sent me the link to register as
Speaker 1: an artist at DMI or whatever, So okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: do it. Ken f has no ten dollars? Does Bishop
Speaker 1: Bard the Night? Everything in Genesis?
Speaker 8: Then?
Speaker 1: Well, see, this is one of the problems with the
Speaker 1: people that take this view. It's like it becomes arbitrary, right.
Speaker 1: They want to say Adam and Eve or sort of
Speaker 1: like symbolic archetypes for ancient you know, Geico, cavemen or whatever.
Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, okay, well then so what about
Speaker 1: all the other things in Genesis? Oh yeah, I see
Speaker 1: the problem. It's Pandora's box gets opened up, by the way,
Speaker 1: Pandora's Box. I was talking about it her Kuci Dude,
Speaker 1: if you.
Speaker 4: Didn't know, do you all?
Speaker 1: You just made that connection right Pandora's Box. Don't let
Speaker 1: that Kouchie open up? Things get crazy, bro, Oh we're
Speaker 1: getting nasty up in here anyways, Well, what about the
Speaker 1: New Testament? The New Testament says in many places in
Speaker 1: the Gospels it refers back to all kinds of events
Speaker 1: in Genesis. Oh, then I guess the Gospels are also wrong.
Speaker 1: You see the what this leads to. So all of
Speaker 1: the place is in the Gospels where Jesus refers to
Speaker 1: Adam and Eve. Oh, I guess he got it wrong
Speaker 1: because they were just symbolic figures. But these people, they're
Speaker 1: not interested in going that route or like thinking this through, dude,
Speaker 1: They're just public face academic people, or supposedly academic. They're
Speaker 1: more like bureaucratic spokespeople, right, Like a bishop Baron is
Speaker 1: a bureaucratic spokesperson more than a truth seeker. I mean,
Speaker 1: dudes over here liking dude's feet, he's over here on
Speaker 1: supposedly looks like Facebook liking dude's feats. I mean, come on, right,
Speaker 1: what are you even doing? But why is that surprising
Speaker 1: for a novus orto bishop, not a masaud agent. Should
Speaker 1: I throw away orthodox away? I mean, I have all
Speaker 1: my Calvinist books. I have a giant shelf of heretic books.
Speaker 1: I don't think you need to throw it away. I
Speaker 1: mean I would just keep all that stuff for reference.
Speaker 1: So Jesus' son two dollars, consider the divine Mersley Chaplet
Speaker 1: and what it is. Bro I used to be a
Speaker 1: Roman Catholic. Are you serious? Uh? You're talking about You're
Speaker 1: talking about Margaret Mary Alakoquait, right. I mean she's one
Speaker 1: of the strongest arguments against Roman Catholicism. This insane historyonic
Speaker 1: woman cutting herself. Are you that doesn't prove from Catholicism anyway.
Speaker 1: We got a lot of stuff we got to get
Speaker 1: to redeem. Zoomer, we gotta You guys are being very generous,
Speaker 1: and I appreciate that. A lot of super jazz coming in. Uh.
Speaker 1: Neil Perry says for ten dollars, can I get your best?
Speaker 1: Jordan Peterson's saying Christ's rhythm? Well, I apologize because we
Speaker 1: drove three hours last night from Nashville at three in
Speaker 1: the morning, and we didn't get home until six, so, uh,
Speaker 1: I pretty much feel like I'm hungover. So my impressions
Speaker 1: are not going to be spot on today because my
Speaker 1: voice is all ft up.
Speaker 9: But well, you know, Christ has risen.
Speaker 1: Depends on what.
Speaker 9: You mean by risen.
Speaker 1: Though, it's like, it's like, what the heck you know,
Speaker 1: say that's I fell into my old order Peterson, I
Speaker 1: got it better and then I fell back into my
Speaker 1: old one.
Speaker 9: It's like, you know, it's like, what's that mean? When
Speaker 9: it says you know, he's risen or whatever, It's like,
Speaker 9: I get it, but it's like, was he asleep or
Speaker 9: what does it mean?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 1: Do you plan to respond to orthodox me Redeemed Zoomers
Speaker 1: debunk of Orthodoxy? Dude, it's in the title, bro, It's
Speaker 1: literally in the title of the video. So yes, but
Speaker 1: thank you Nibsen for that super chatting. He says, uh,
Speaker 1: Christ has risen, indeed he is, and that freemason's putting
Speaker 1: a curse on my vocal cords. He put a Cabbala
Speaker 1: curse on my vocal cords. I could do I can
Speaker 1: do it really good if my voice wasn't ft up,
Speaker 1: but it's not doing well right now. Hosy five dollars.
Speaker 1: Do you have a question, how did Matthew know Jesus
Speaker 1: fasted if he met Jesus after the fact, I mean
Speaker 1: he wrote the gospel later on? Dude, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about?
Speaker 10: So?
Speaker 1: I mean it says at the end of Luke that
Speaker 1: Jesus opened the eyes of the apostles to understand all
Speaker 1: the things that were written and then it was recorded.
Speaker 1: So I don't understand the question. Let's talk God five
Speaker 1: dollars a janitor versus forty seven missiles elite kuriaku ball knowledge.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but it's sounds very esoteric.
Speaker 1: Captain slow boy five dollars. I think you're right about everything,
Speaker 1: but I enjoy Candace, who is oft and wrong. Candace
Speaker 1: said that she would debate Kirk with somebody like you
Speaker 1: would you be down, You're the best. But I don't
Speaker 1: have a I don't want to debate Charlie Kirk theories.
Speaker 1: I don't have a set theory on Charlie Kirk. And
Speaker 1: are you saying that she actually said she would debate
Speaker 1: me or just someone like me?
Speaker 4: That's confusing here, Like.
Speaker 1: That goober freemason that just called in was like he
Speaker 1: starts talking about Charlie Kirk bullets, Like what does this
Speaker 1: have to do with the accusation that everybody from Alex
Speaker 1: to Tucker is a is fake traders? Like nothing to
Speaker 1: do with what I asked him about. And I don't
Speaker 1: know what, I don't believe the official story, but I
Speaker 1: don't have a set theory on what exactly went down,
Speaker 1: So I don't understand.
Speaker 4: Why I would debate. I don't have a position I wanted.
Speaker 4: I would rather debate.
Speaker 1: Her on other topics that she goes into, like Sumerian
Speaker 1: time travel technology, whatever bullshit she was pushing. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously that's not true. Zach sends one hundred and sixty dollars.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Whatever the a's is, that Canadian
Speaker 1: or Australian Christ has risen, blessed pasca to you and Jamie,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Christ has risen from the dead,
Speaker 1: triumphing down death by death, end upon those in the
Speaker 1: tombesb storbing lot Jamie, Jamie, could you bring me a
Speaker 1: cough drop? She probably can't hear me. Hey, Jamie, do
Speaker 1: you think you can bring me a cough drop? One
Speaker 1: of those little then new honey cough drops. I think
Speaker 1: there's there's a couple more in that jar. Well, if not,
Speaker 1: that's fine, I could just put some money in that coffee.
Speaker 1: Thank you so again, guys. This weekend, Next weekend, Nashville
Speaker 1: Debate Me versus Two Freemasons including your boy, Chase Geyser,
Speaker 1: me versus Chase Guyser and his assistant his lodge butt buddy.
Speaker 1: I'm just joking, Edgar. Two dollars, thank you, Captain slow boy.
Speaker 1: Now we did that one. Ken Frezeno ten dollars. Now
Speaker 1: we did that one cobold. Would you debate Corey mal
Speaker 1: Or No, that is insane in psycho I tried to
Speaker 1: debate him like two years ago and he just literally
Speaker 1: just cusses you out, doesn't even he doesn't even they
Speaker 1: or make arguments. Leave it, Teithan, Now we did that.
Speaker 1: Storm the Cat the YouTube algorithm pushes a Bishop Baron.
Speaker 1: He has Skittles boomer energy. Well, yeah, like he's over
Speaker 1: here liking dude's feats, so uh and yeah, of course
Speaker 1: they're gonna they always push these people.
Speaker 8: Dude.
Speaker 1: The algorithm, I mean cyclone drew five dollars. No, we
Speaker 1: did that. We were left.
Speaker 8: A.
Speaker 1: Brockley says that Freemason Dude's arguments were full of right
Speaker 1: angle fallacies. That was so stupid. It's like, do you
Speaker 1: believe in right angles? It is a circle three or
Speaker 1: sixty degrees? Like, what the what are you talking about? Dude.
Speaker 4: Contemporary companion.
Speaker 1: That dude was trying to do Steiner math and he
Speaker 1: failed to Mother Mason Caleb says, bish Nigga University gonna
Speaker 1: win this Natty this year for Chad nerd for the Heisman.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tingu. Ten dollars, Happy Paska Christ has risen.
Speaker 1: Indeed he has risen. Great Scott. Five dollars, Jay, get
Speaker 1: yourself an expresso, aqua fire sprints. Praise be to Jesus. Indeed,
Speaker 1: prompt five dollars. If you're gonna do call ins, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna call in later. I want to ask about geopolitical
Speaker 1: stuff and spy things. Sure, do you have any thoughts
Speaker 1: on Three Days the Condor? Yeah, it's a classic movie.
Speaker 1: We've covered it for many years. Really ties in the
Speaker 1: world of Hollywood writing writers, right because they have basically
Speaker 1: a CIA outfit that's reading literature to scan it for
Speaker 1: codes or information. And it's a great conspiracy movie where
Speaker 1: you know, Robert referred ends up on the run from
Speaker 1: a corrupt CIA that's trying to kill him. It's kind
Speaker 1: of a conspiracy classic. We've covered it quite a bit.
Speaker 1: But what about Mockingbird. You know that movie might have
Speaker 1: a relationship to Operation Mockingbird. I didn't even think about that,
Speaker 1: but it probably does. Post the time stamps for redeemed Zoomer. Well,
Speaker 1: there's a new dude, jib took Up took a break
Speaker 1: from the internet. Remember Jub he was out here as
Speaker 1: a solid time stamper and he took a break. I
Speaker 1: think he has a baby now, so congrats to him.
Speaker 1: But there's a new guy who's doing the timestamps that's
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Speaker 1: you name it. Jacob king Fham already proved in court
Speaker 1: c I a mafia killed MLK King. Oh, the King family,
Speaker 1: if they killed Kirk or JFK is irrelevant, irrelevant in
Speaker 1: this manner. Yeah, that's interesting. I've known that and we've
Speaker 1: been arguing for a long time that there was a
Speaker 1: confluence of interest, and that would include organized crime. It
Speaker 1: would include, in my view, elements within the power structure
Speaker 1: of Israel. I think that's been vindicated from the Community
Speaker 1: case and the JFK files between James Jesus Angleton UH
Speaker 1: in Israel, UH and the c I so C A
Speaker 1: organized crime UH and elements of Israel were involved in
Speaker 1: the assassination of JFK.
Speaker 4: That's my view. I do think there probably.
Speaker 1: Was a conspiracy in the case of MLK, but I
Speaker 1: don't know that case as well as the others. I've
Speaker 1: read several books on JFK. I'm not a boomer JFK
Speaker 1: conspiracy expert. I read only three books on it, and
Speaker 1: I think everybody knows the one, the book that's probably
Speaker 1: the most vindicated, and you know which one I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: At least after the JFK files, it would seem that
Speaker 1: Michael Collins Piper's book has probably been the most vindicated.
Speaker 1: Myron Chuck says, for ten dollars sake, what's up, bro?
Speaker 1: How you doing? Christ has Risen? I got to teach
Speaker 1: you how to do a macho man Randy Savage impersonation.
Speaker 1: I know how to do it.
Speaker 7: Ooh, it's the macho man Randy Savage.
Speaker 1: How's that?
Speaker 4: Is that good enough?
Speaker 1: My voice is raspy, so it still wasn't because it's
Speaker 1: a little more grind in that voice than I did.
Speaker 1: But I think that's probably good enough. Okay, I'm noticing
Speaker 1: that restream doesn't seems like it doesn't show super chats
Speaker 1: in one pile, so I guess I have to keep
Speaker 1: monitoring different situations. All right, let's go to the next
Speaker 1: guy that's been waiting for a while. I'm America.
Speaker 8: What's up?
Speaker 1: We're talking to just freaking America. You want to interview
Speaker 1: or talk to America?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 1: He is right here, America.
Speaker 3: Freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up America?
Speaker 3: What's going on? Jay Dyer? It's Andrew Meyer.
Speaker 1: Oh no, not Andrew Meyer.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm band about here? Right, I've been
Speaker 3: bad for like six months.
Speaker 4: I remember you getting banned, but what what was that over?
Speaker 4: I don't remember.
Speaker 11: Oh, I was just getting mass reported by literal communists
Speaker 11: and gropers.
Speaker 1: Oh and uh interesting, So how you been, man, what's
Speaker 1: on your mind?
Speaker 3: Everything's good. I just saw your title here and I'm
Speaker 3: I'm curious.
Speaker 11: You know, Owens, Troyer, and Andrew Wilson are about to
Speaker 11: debate Trump and Iran. I'm curious where you come down
Speaker 11: on which side of things.
Speaker 4: I am opposed to the Iran strikes.
Speaker 11: And see, for me, everybody thinks it's like, oh, Trump
Speaker 11: is doing this for Israel, but I've been saying for
Speaker 11: months he's doing this for the petro dollar, He's doing
Speaker 11: this for oil, and it's like all the news is
Speaker 11: coming out now, like the dollars just had its strongest year,
Speaker 11: his strongest month since September twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Well, there could be multiple there could be multiple motivations.
Speaker 3: That's true, That is true. And I think that's this split.
Speaker 11: Like every time that Mark Levin or net Yahoo or
Speaker 11: whatever is begging Trump and going ballistic and Trump's not
Speaker 11: doing what they want, it's because Trump is achieving his objective.
Speaker 3: For America, but they want more for Israel.
Speaker 11: And I really think people don't see that Trump is
Speaker 11: not a puppet and that.
Speaker 3: The things he do is it's for the benefit of
Speaker 3: him America.
Speaker 11: I debated Harrison Smith about this a week or two ago.
Speaker 11: Totally vindicated, Like if you watch that, you can't watch it.
Speaker 3: Listened to that today.
Speaker 11: It's phenomenal and everything I said to Harrison that he
Speaker 11: didn't want to accept, like Trump said the things that
Speaker 11: I said like a day later, so it's like totally vindicated.
Speaker 1: Well, I've not heard that discussion, but I mean, I
Speaker 1: think if you look, for example, at the seizing of
Speaker 1: oil via you know, Maduro, that would seem to also
Speaker 1: prop up Petro dollar. That would be something that would
Speaker 1: assist in the in the propping up Petro dollars. So
Speaker 1: in other words, I think that's an instance where that
Speaker 1: definitely applies, because that's exactly what I.
Speaker 11: Said to Harrison, and he said, no, there's no benefit
Speaker 11: to America or.
Speaker 3: The dollar from US seizing Vina.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not even saying that I agree. I'm not
Speaker 1: even saying I agree with that action. I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure what my position is on Maduro and socialism.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not pro socialist, but I'm saying regime
Speaker 1: change shop operations are very tricky and difficult to argue
Speaker 1: and debate because it gets into all these factors about
Speaker 1: you know, well, what's the greatest net positive for our
Speaker 1: people that's achieved via regime change operations? And I think
Speaker 1: one of the problems that if you start going down
Speaker 1: that route, then it opens the door for you know,
Speaker 1: Pandora's kouchi, right, Pandora's box gets opened up, and then
Speaker 1: you have a justification for well, well, I guess we
Speaker 1: can then just you know, could we then regime change
Speaker 1: any future potential problems with America or to America. Well,
Speaker 1: in that case, then we're basically just remaking entire globe.
Speaker 4: So we might as well just be imperialists.
Speaker 1: Which maybe maybe imperialism in some sort of like Byzantine
Speaker 1: model would be something I would argue for, But I
Speaker 1: just don't think that. And I know that you're critical
Speaker 1: of net yahoo in the existing power structure Israel, so
Speaker 1: you would probably disagree with the view that this is all.
Speaker 4: Just Zionism.
Speaker 1: But my question to you would be, don't you think
Speaker 1: this is the ode ed U non plan and the
Speaker 1: clean Break strategy and the Seven Nations plan all just
Speaker 1: sort of in culmination.
Speaker 11: I definitely think they're pushing for that stuff. Yes, they're
Speaker 11: definitely pushing for that, but that's not my concern here.
Speaker 3: I look at it only the same.
Speaker 11: Way Trump does, from the framework of what benefits.
Speaker 3: America, and like the way you put.
Speaker 11: It, it's like, do we want to be open imperialists?
Speaker 11: Like when I read A Secret History of the American
Speaker 11: Empire by John Perkins when I was like twenty, Yeah,
Speaker 11: I was like horrified, like, oh, we're taking out leaders
Speaker 11: in South America just like murdering them and then getting
Speaker 11: the country to do what we want.
Speaker 3: I was never for that.
Speaker 11: But the way I look at the work, the way
Speaker 11: things are now in the world, it's like, Okay, the
Speaker 11: Chinese communists.
Speaker 3: Are all over the globe.
Speaker 11: They're in North America, South America like doing a pincer
Speaker 11: movement on us. They were not only doing business with
Speaker 11: Venezuela getting cheap oil from the but like also competing.
Speaker 1: I get the I hit mute. How long was I muted?
Speaker 1: Hopefully I wasn't muted that long.
Speaker 3: I didn't get you weren't muted at all?
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, not to you. I accidentally hit
Speaker 1: the microphone buttons really sensitive, So was that MUTI her
Speaker 1: just hopefully just a few seconds. But you want to
Speaker 1: repeat the last thing you said, Andrew, because they're going
Speaker 1: to think of all you censoring Andrew. Repeat the last
Speaker 1: thing you said.
Speaker 11: Jay Dyer is one of the most willing to debate
Speaker 11: men in the history of the world. So I'm not
Speaker 11: worried about being censored by Jay.
Speaker 3: The last thing I said, I think was just like
Speaker 3: you were saying that the.
Speaker 11: American and Israeli Alliance has more than one motivation, right,
Speaker 11: you know, China, China Ahead.
Speaker 3: Group and the WF and Bill Gates. There's more than
Speaker 3: one motivation there, all of them.
Speaker 11: They want to fuck over America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I feel like we're not gonna fix
Speaker 1: anything in America until we get out of the mind
Speaker 1: frame of thinking that the next president can fix things.
Speaker 1: In other words, until we figure out that we're actually
Speaker 1: run by you know, people at Builderberg Trilateral Commission, And
Speaker 1: I think there are wealthy banking elites and corporate elites
Speaker 1: that are not just Jewish, but there are also you know,
Speaker 1: APAC has a huge amount of influence on our foreign
Speaker 1: policy al Addelson, et cetera. So that's all a real problem.
Speaker 1: But for things to actually change I think we would
Speaker 1: have to move away from those kinds of influences in
Speaker 1: our government, which is now pretty much admitted, Like it's
Speaker 1: pretty much admitted that, yeah we do. Don't you think
Speaker 1: it's admitted that we do. Net and Yahoo's foreign policy.
Speaker 11: I think that last year when they wanted to keep
Speaker 11: attacking and Trump native turned jets around, it shows who's
Speaker 11: the big dog in the relationship. Israel is a vassal
Speaker 11: state of America, not the.
Speaker 3: Other way around.
Speaker 1: Well then why then, why was why have we seen
Speaker 1: a suppression of the discussion of uh, you know Epstein
Speaker 1: files being fully released prosecutions. I mean, do you do
Speaker 1: you think that Epstein was Masade aligned?
Speaker 11: I think he was part of a four different intel Yeah,
Speaker 11: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: He's a big honey pot.
Speaker 11: Benefited the six, the French Intel, the CIA.
Speaker 3: And they agree with that.
Speaker 12: Uh.
Speaker 3: I think it was right joint effort.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but typically that joint effort tends to want and
Speaker 1: then you could have some disagreement. Like back in the
Speaker 1: era of say Kissinger and Brazenski, the establishment didn't always
Speaker 1: do everything that Israel wanted. But it seems like nowadays
Speaker 1: that there's less of that establishment tends to do more
Speaker 1: of what Israel wants.
Speaker 11: Maybe so, But I'll tell you this, I'm not concerned
Speaker 11: about Israel.
Speaker 3: They're not my first issue. I'm concerned about what's good
Speaker 3: for America.
Speaker 11: And you know, the whole discussion around Iran and Trump's
Speaker 11: administration this time around, it's.
Speaker 3: Like, if you look at it from its Trump helping America,
Speaker 3: the answer is he definitely is.
Speaker 11: And that's why I had that debate with Harrison.
Speaker 3: Because like it or not, like imperialism or not.
Speaker 11: The Chinese communists even on this app on the Twitter,
Speaker 11: they were crowing, it's gonna be the Chinese century, It's gonna.
Speaker 3: Be a multi pole of the world.
Speaker 11: The dollar won't be the world's deserve currency like they
Speaker 11: were bragging about this.
Speaker 3: Okay, and Trump changed the math.
Speaker 4: Well, how does Iran help that?
Speaker 1: Exactly?
Speaker 11: Well, first of all, the cheap oil that China was
Speaker 11: getting from Iran not there anymore.
Speaker 3: No more cheap Iranian oil. Same with venezuel As oil.
Speaker 3: No more. They're having to buy from US at higher prices.
Speaker 11: They're buying from US, So you have to understand, like
Speaker 11: their economy has been running on this cheap oil. So
Speaker 11: now instead of having slave labor and cheap oil. The
Speaker 11: math is changing for them so that it's not going.
Speaker 3: To be so cheap for them to outperform everybody in
Speaker 3: the production of goods.
Speaker 4: Okay, well, how is any of this? Okay?
Speaker 1: But hold on, so like, if let's grant that argument,
Speaker 1: I mean, how is cheap oil going to help America
Speaker 1: and really hurt damaged China from you know, not being
Speaker 1: able to get access to that If the real problem
Speaker 1: in America is the Fella reserve and that comes out
Speaker 1: of like the raw Child banking model.
Speaker 11: That's the other thing I wanted to say, Toy is
Speaker 11: instead of them having the world's reserve currency and crashing
Speaker 11: the dollar, which was their plan, the petro dollar is
Speaker 11: now going to live for a thousand years.
Speaker 3: The world's energy.
Speaker 11: Is going to be traded in dollars because the oil
Speaker 11: is in the US, in Venezuela, in Alberta, which is
Speaker 11: about to secede from Canada and do business.
Speaker 3: With the US.
Speaker 4: Well, I disagree with you on that point.
Speaker 1: I don't think that the petro dollar is actually going
Speaker 1: to last one thousand years because any fiat currency, even
Speaker 1: if it's backed by supposedly oil, it's going to eventually collapse.
Speaker 1: We've already, for example, Biden, what destroyed the dollar in
Speaker 1: terms of its purchasing power twenty percent alone under Biden
Speaker 1: during the koof period. And if you remember when Elon
Speaker 1: was in there, I'm not pro Elon. I'm just saying
Speaker 1: when you say or, I'm not pro or anti Elon.
Speaker 1: I'm neutral on Elon. But I'm saying, when you look
Speaker 1: at when Dose went in and looked at the debt,
Speaker 1: you know, he came out with the conclusion and he
Speaker 1: could be wrong, but he came out with the conclusion
Speaker 1: though actually we can't fix the debt. So it's like,
Speaker 1: and by the way, why would we think that maybe
Speaker 1: you were exaggerating when you said a thousand years. I
Speaker 1: just thought that was funny, like a premillennial reign of
Speaker 1: Petro dollar.
Speaker 4: But uh, but I mean, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, I just don't understand how that's gonna I mean,
Speaker 1: the dollar was destroyed twenty percent purchasing power under Biden.
Speaker 4: How is Petro dollar going to prop that up?
Speaker 11: Yeah, we're totally inflated for sure. Again, the Chinese and
Speaker 11: you can listen to the commies all this said. They
Speaker 11: were all crowing that the world's reserve currency is going
Speaker 11: to be the U because the Saudi's they had been
Speaker 11: decreasing the percent of their trade the dollar and increasing
Speaker 11: their trade in the U won and China was getting
Speaker 11: this cheap oil from Iran and Venezuela and their economy
Speaker 11: was set to overtake hours. Now that's not the equation anymore.
Speaker 11: The petro dollar will rate, it will be supreme. You
Speaker 11: can say that all all field goes to zero. I
Speaker 11: understand the history of it. It's a good argument. But
Speaker 11: if all of the world's oil will be traded in dollars,
Speaker 11: you can call it a utility token, if that's how
Speaker 11: you want to put it for I know you love.
Speaker 3: A crypto like it's a utility token that will always
Speaker 3: have utility.
Speaker 4: It's going on iveco currency.
Speaker 1: I love bitcoin, not crypto, and I don't think bitcoin
Speaker 1: is just the utility token.
Speaker 4: I think it's actually, you know, solid money.
Speaker 1: But okay, well, I just I don't that that argument
Speaker 1: doesn't seem very convincing to me. It seems like a
Speaker 1: very speculative line of argumentation. And I get that empires
Speaker 1: to operate this way historically with seizing resources. I just
Speaker 1: I still think that to me, that's not a strong
Speaker 1: enough argument as to why Trump is doing what he's doing.
Speaker 1: And you'll notice, if this was actually to help the
Speaker 1: country and Trump was doing the right thing, well, then
Speaker 1: why have all of the worst operatives come out who
Speaker 1: were the never trumpers who are now MAGA and they
Speaker 1: represent MAGA. And Trump talks like Mark Levins the greatest
Speaker 1: dude out there, and now all the people who criticized
Speaker 1: him on this war are now the worst dudes out here.
Speaker 1: So and again Milanya comes out basically saying the exact
Speaker 1: opposite of what Trump said, that no, actually we do
Speaker 1: need to release the rest of the Epstein fileser needs
Speaker 1: to be prosecutions. So I guess Milanya's not MAGA and
Speaker 1: she's dumb too. She's liked so we're all low IQ
Speaker 1: because we don't understand like the sixty six dimensional chess moves.
Speaker 4: To me, that just doesn't make sense.
Speaker 11: Well, I think he was very specific with who he
Speaker 11: called low IQ and at Tucker, for example, he had
Speaker 11: on some socialists and said that Christiana, he is a socialist.
Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure you don't agree with that.
Speaker 3: And Tucker's had a number of other wild things that
Speaker 3: he said and had said on the.
Speaker 1: Show, Well, every person hold on never Trumps.
Speaker 3: It was the first one.
Speaker 11: At the very first debate, she tried the knife Trumps
Speaker 11: with Rosie O'donnald question and he flipped it on it.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not even talking about Meghan Kelly with the.
Speaker 11: Egyptian planes is low iq, that's a fact. And then
Speaker 11: Alex said that Trump should get twenty fifth and ended it,
Speaker 11: which I love Alex, but I mean he needs to
Speaker 11: really walk.
Speaker 3: All that crap back.
Speaker 1: Okay, So do you not think that APAK has a
Speaker 1: massive amount of influence on our foreign policy?
Speaker 11: I think it's overstated. APAK is an organization. If you
Speaker 11: want to say Israel rather than APAK, Israel has a
Speaker 11: very big influence.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean APA is one of the one of
Speaker 1: the entities that he uses. So like, yeah, I mean, uh, okay,
Speaker 1: what but did you not admit earlier that from oded
Speaker 1: Yunan all the way up through the Seven Nations Plan,
Speaker 1: that is pretty much the same strategy that America has
Speaker 1: been constantly sort of roped into.
Speaker 11: Again, I think it's very different. The reason Trump goes
Speaker 11: to Iran is very different from the reason Bush.
Speaker 3: Goes to Iraq, and the way they conduct the war.
Speaker 1: Just why why would they hold on war?
Speaker 3: Is going to have us in boiled there for decades.
Speaker 4: Well, that's what he's.
Speaker 11: Doing, air strikes and he's doing a resource war versus
Speaker 11: What was the plan that that was.
Speaker 1: The same oil there? Well, it was the same motivations
Speaker 1: for all those wars was control of resources, strategic location
Speaker 1: I mean no, I mean a military and nels for
Speaker 1: complex rebuilding those countries. All of those things were part
Speaker 1: and parcel of all of those all those wars.
Speaker 3: That's not I think there's a.
Speaker 5: Very different plan from.
Speaker 11: We're going to control the world's oil under Trump versus
Speaker 11: Dick Cheney grifting money for Halibert and getting troops killed
Speaker 11: and wasted.
Speaker 1: No, it's the exact same, it's the exact same.
Speaker 3: No, it's not the same.
Speaker 4: Is it's No.
Speaker 1: The people behind Panak are the exact same neo conservatives
Speaker 1: or the exact same strategy as net Yahoo today. It's
Speaker 1: exact same liquid strategy. No different with you there at
Speaker 1: the R Then you admit my point.
Speaker 11: Ben Shapiro, want this now is the same that they
Speaker 11: would want it twenty years ago.
Speaker 4: I can Well, then that's meting my point.
Speaker 11: I'm saying that the reason it's happening in Iran, even
Speaker 11: even Bush didn't do Iran. The reason it's happening in
Speaker 11: Iran is because Trump is doing things for the benefit
Speaker 11: of America, not for the benefit of some other country.
Speaker 1: But again, I don't see how your argument is just
Speaker 1: that Iran will somehow make uh the petro dollar last
Speaker 1: one thousand years.
Speaker 3: Go look at the maps. You could go on my
Speaker 3: profile right.
Speaker 11: Now and look at all the pictures, all of the
Speaker 11: ships that have left.
Speaker 1: We have enough oil on America, we have enough oil
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 3: But we are the broker of oil in the world
Speaker 3: right now.
Speaker 1: We have a enough oil in the US that we
Speaker 1: don't even need any of those right we don't need
Speaker 1: Saudi oil. That was a deal broker by Kissinger to
Speaker 1: make the US dependent upon a globalized monetary structure via Builderberg.
Speaker 1: That was all the nineteen seventies Carter Kissing Builderberg Era
Speaker 1: to strategize how to put the US into an international
Speaker 1: petro dollar situation. But there's enough oil in the US
Speaker 1: and our reserved and in our untapped areas that we
Speaker 1: wouldn't even need Iran's oil.
Speaker 4: So this is really just a I think it sounds like.
Speaker 1: You're rebranding it and you're saying, oh yeah, well, in
Speaker 1: the you know, Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom and
Speaker 1: all this other stuff in the past, that was, you know,
Speaker 1: Israeli neocon strategy.
Speaker 4: This is not that.
Speaker 1: Because Bush didn't take the oil and didn't do Iran. Well,
Speaker 1: that's because there was enough opposition that he wasn't able to.
Speaker 1: But with Trump, they don't even need opposition. He just
Speaker 1: does it anyway, does whatever he wants. So I think
Speaker 1: that that's just that is not a consistent argument. It's
Speaker 1: exact same a Israeli foreign policy strategy all the way
Speaker 1: back to it, you know, on.
Speaker 3: Totally totally wrong.
Speaker 11: If you look at the consumption of oil in the
Speaker 11: world right now, it didn't flip to be America first
Speaker 11: when we were doing the Iraq war.
Speaker 3: That was not the situation. What just happened.
Speaker 11: I didn't argue that flipping the consumption of the world's
Speaker 11: oil from foreign to American domestic people are coming.
Speaker 3: Here to get oil. We are. We are in control
Speaker 3: of the world's energy market, and that's because of Trump.
Speaker 1: Okay, but none of that address the argument that I
Speaker 1: made that it's the exact same neo con strategy that
Speaker 1: was that was essentially behind nine eleven.
Speaker 11: You're you're I think, conflating two things. I agree with
Speaker 11: you that the Neo cause and all those people, their
Speaker 11: premises and what they wanted is all the same. But
Speaker 11: Trump's motivation is different and the outcome is different.
Speaker 10: Well, which is why I said, you.
Speaker 11: Didn't see all the ships lining up to buy American
Speaker 11: oil during the Iraq War.
Speaker 3: There is a benefit to America. That's why Trump is
Speaker 3: doing this.
Speaker 1: Okay, again, I mean so if that was the case,
Speaker 1: then does it stand the reason that every perceived benefit
Speaker 1: to America could then justify anything such as false flag
Speaker 1: events such as I mean, what.
Speaker 4: Nine to eleven?
Speaker 1: Could we now revision revise that as something that benefits America?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 11: First of all, not only was nine to eleven evil,
Speaker 11: but it wasn't done for the benefit of America.
Speaker 3: I don't even understand.
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm saying. What I'm saying is, by your line
Speaker 1: of reasoning, if you could justify a false flag or
Speaker 1: any foreign intervention by quote what benefits America, then wouldn't
Speaker 1: anything wouldn't you open up Pandora's kouchi?
Speaker 11: No, So, when the Iranians had American troops on their
Speaker 11: knees on an American vessel under Obama.
Speaker 3: That right, there was enough cause for war. These people
Speaker 3: aren't at war with us.
Speaker 10: They declare it all the time, and China is the.
Speaker 11: Delivery system for their weapons systems. They're not going to
Speaker 11: do open warfare with us. They're doing sneaky like trying
Speaker 11: to destroy our foods.
Speaker 1: That wasn't the argument I made. No, that wasn't the
Speaker 1: argument I made. I said, if you're going to argue
Speaker 1: that Trump's motivations to do this for the good of
Speaker 1: America allows for these types of strikes and whatnot, then
Speaker 1: could we then argue that any operation that is under
Speaker 1: the ages of supposedly benefiting America could then be justified,
Speaker 1: including false flag events including you know why, absolutely killing bad.
Speaker 11: Guys that are in it is not the same as
Speaker 11: killing American civilians.
Speaker 3: Only not the same thing.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I said, any justice.
Speaker 1: Well, but well, hold on, though, if it had benefited America,
Speaker 1: then why not sacrifice some American lives?
Speaker 3: No, that's evil.
Speaker 1: Well, then the Iran war would be evil because some
Speaker 1: American lives will be lost in the Iran War.
Speaker 11: No, that's defending yourself against the nation at war with
Speaker 11: you is not evil because some of your soldiers.
Speaker 4: No, No, it doesn't matter what.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter if you recast it as defense, because
Speaker 1: the argument is about justification of foreign strikes and foreign operations.
Speaker 1: And you said if it benefits America, And then I argued, basically, well,
Speaker 1: what if losing American lives also benefits America? Why would
Speaker 1: it not still be beneficial and justified.
Speaker 11: Well, the example you gave was murdering our own people
Speaker 11: in cold blood versus defending ourselves in a righteous war
Speaker 11: against enemies that are literally trying to poison and kill us. Yeah,
Speaker 11: there's a very big difference, is very obvious.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, yeah, I understand that you
Speaker 1: have there's a principal self defense. What I'm asking is,
Speaker 1: if the justification is what benefits America, then you've moved
Speaker 1: the goalpost to say that unless it's you know, the
Speaker 1: loss of American lives in self defense. So it's beginning
Speaker 1: to be arbitrary because what if, let's say, for the
Speaker 1: sake of argument, a false flag event on American soil
Speaker 1: that kills a thousand people, but it has the net
Speaker 1: effect of turning all of the world against Iran and
Speaker 1: then Iran collapses and we win. Could you not then
Speaker 1: argue that that was a justified approach given the original
Speaker 1: argument that the ends justify the means.
Speaker 3: Basically, this hypothetical has nothing to do with reality.
Speaker 1: Oh, come on, dude, it has everything to do with reality,
Speaker 1: because that's exactly what. Come on, Andrew, That's exactly what
Speaker 1: nine to eleven was about.
Speaker 11: No, but I'm saying nine to eleven in Iraq different
Speaker 11: from Iran and Trump.
Speaker 1: That's not relevant to the argument I made to you.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about the ethical line of argument in terms
Speaker 1: of justification.
Speaker 4: That's not what I said.
Speaker 1: No, No, no, listen, I'm saying your line of ethical
Speaker 1: reasoning would also seem to justify something like nine to
Speaker 1: eleven if you could show that it benefits America in
Speaker 1: the long run.
Speaker 11: No, it's still not ethical to murder of Americans like
Speaker 11: us going after as oil.
Speaker 1: Then you can't make the argument. That is, then you
Speaker 1: can't make the argument you made. So you just refuted yourself. No,
Speaker 1: you said that it benefits America in terms of the
Speaker 1: petro dollar.
Speaker 4: Then it's it's that's why Trump's doing it.
Speaker 11: Yes, that's why he's doing it, but it's also a
Speaker 11: righteous war.
Speaker 3: Like there are two things happening.
Speaker 11: It's both beneficial to America and it's righteous they're at
Speaker 11: war with us.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, I appreciate the That was a great exchange.
Speaker 8: Andrew.
Speaker 1: Appreciate you calling in absolutely, Andrew.
Speaker 8: You're good.
Speaker 1: You're a good debater, a fun guy to talk to,
Speaker 1: and uh, welcome back anytime. We are going to move
Speaker 1: on because I do want to get thank you, Andrew.
Speaker 1: Feel free to call back, but we're going to move
Speaker 1: on to topics like I do want to get to
Speaker 1: the redeem Zoomer thing. I don't think we we haven't
Speaker 1: gotten to that yet, and I did promise people that
Speaker 1: we would talk about this. I need some water though
Speaker 1: I'm so thirsty. People have sense that I'm tired, and
Speaker 1: they know that it's that now is the time to
Speaker 1: call in and get me. I'm joking, by the way,
Speaker 1: he's brosey, what's something, Hey?
Speaker 3: Take you hear me?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 12: So yeah, all right, let me preface this, but I'm
Speaker 12: I'm actually I don't have that much time, so I'm
Speaker 12: gonna try and make it quick.
Speaker 10: I'm a prefaces by.
Speaker 12: Saying I've been following Andrew longer than I don't maybe
Speaker 12: like ninety five percent of the people that are crucible members,
Speaker 12: subscribers or whatever like currently been following him. Says that,
Speaker 12: And to be fair, if kind have always been more
Speaker 12: of a Rachel supporter than Andrew because.
Speaker 10: Because of the Trump issue.
Speaker 12: But what I'm about to say this, this just it
Speaker 12: necessarily does include Andrew. And I don't want to be
Speaker 12: disrespectful because, like I said, I've always been a big.
Speaker 10: Fan of him and I still will be.
Speaker 12: These people are these people are slaves to him, just
Speaker 12: like he's slaves to Israel.
Speaker 10: And it's sad as hell.
Speaker 12: Man, I don't understand, like when you brought up the
Speaker 12: Builderberg and Yolkan folks being behind what happened back in
Speaker 12: the seventies and it's still be the exact same people
Speaker 12: now and he can seize that, but then still continues
Speaker 12: to argue it's I mean, I just I just don't
Speaker 12: see how at.
Speaker 10: This point, like you can't reason that he's.
Speaker 12: Just a what I'm not gonna say, I don't want
Speaker 12: to get your stream taken down. I don't understand how
Speaker 12: they can't piece together that he's just a k I.
Speaker 10: K slave and it is. There's just no more argumentation
Speaker 10: for it. Man.
Speaker 12: I've got to be as as calm and respectful with
Speaker 12: other like crucible chat members that I interact with on
Speaker 12: the timeline whatever. And you know, I'll go back and
Speaker 12: forth with him. I mean at this at this point,
Speaker 12: I just don't choose to see anyway to to like
Speaker 12: reason and I'm actually I'm to take a like a
Speaker 12: few months hiatus away from this dam up for this
Speaker 12: specific issue. None of the p s A stuff, this
Speaker 12: other stuff that's been going on has actually angered me.
Speaker 10: It's just this. I cannot keep a composure.
Speaker 12: When talking about Trump with these absolute fucking retards like
Speaker 12: his dick is so far down their throats that they
Speaker 12: just cannot seem.
Speaker 10: To reason this. It's sad as ill man.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you know, it's we can have disagreements
Speaker 1: with uh, you know, our fellow people politically speaking, because
Speaker 1: that's just gonna happen.
Speaker 4: And uh, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Would like I want to I'd like to see this
Speaker 1: debate that Andrew's gonna do with Owen Shroyer speaking of
Speaker 1: old and Troyer. I tried to get Owen to come
Speaker 1: debate Catholicism because Owen is saying that he's a uh,
Speaker 1: he's like putting up templar memes like he's a templar, Like, dude,
Speaker 1: come on.
Speaker 4: But Rachel would like to say, so what's up, Rachel? Yeah,
Speaker 4: how you doing?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 13: I just wanted to jump in for a quick step
Speaker 13: because I.
Speaker 14: Like, I understand a lot of people's frustration with the
Speaker 14: a's position.
Speaker 3: And Asia Browsey don't feel bad.
Speaker 10: We get it, you know, and you don't.
Speaker 3: Andrew always says you don't.
Speaker 14: Have to agree with him on everything, you know, But
Speaker 14: Andrew is a.
Speaker 3: Straight politics Scott he is. He's not.
Speaker 14: Doing He's not operating in the same way that a
Speaker 14: lot of other people in the space are, like, even
Speaker 14: differently from how I am and how jam does.
Speaker 3: And from Andrew's perspective, just the.
Speaker 14: Fact that Trump got border crossings to zero, that he's
Speaker 14: made net zero migration a federal policy, the fact that
Speaker 14: Roe v. Wade was under overturned under just this is
Speaker 14: that he appointed. These are huge domestic victories that we
Speaker 14: would not have gotten without Trump being in office. Yeah,
Speaker 14: he doesn't think, he doesn't have pumps dick.
Speaker 5: Down his throat.
Speaker 1: Well, and Alex makes think he's a good dude.
Speaker 4: Alex makes those same arguments.
Speaker 1: What's that I said?
Speaker 4: Alex makes the exact same argument that that Andrew just said.
Speaker 3: There.
Speaker 1: But and I've always been an issue as person. That's
Speaker 1: why I never jumped on a team like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: on team Trump. Well, I can support the things that
Speaker 1: Trump campaigned on. I agree with most of what he
Speaker 1: was campaigning on, and then I can just simply say
Speaker 1: I disagree with the Rand situation, I disagree with warp speed,
Speaker 1: I disagree with you know a couple other you know,
Speaker 1: Epstein thing. There's there's like, you know, three four or
Speaker 1: five issues that I'll disagree with Trump on, but then
Speaker 1: I appreciate, pre appreciate the other things like you're saying, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 14: And from Andrew's perspective, he says, this whole time, politics
Speaker 14: is dirty. It's nasty, sure, And if you're hoping, is
Speaker 14: it hoping that.
Speaker 3: Anybody you elect is going to.
Speaker 8: Be like on your side.
Speaker 3: And you can on their team and they're going to
Speaker 3: be a good No.
Speaker 14: He always sees it as a political strategy of how
Speaker 14: can we get the person in who's going to help
Speaker 14: us the most and combat the progressive left as much
Speaker 14: as possible, So like, from his perspective, the Trump presidency
Speaker 14: overall was still successful.
Speaker 3: But of course there's stuff that Trump's done that Andrew
Speaker 3: doesn't like and he doesn't agree with.
Speaker 14: So it's not a matter of being like some kind
Speaker 14: of diehard Trump person that you just have to, you know,
Speaker 14: suck it up and say, well, I love everything Daddy
Speaker 14: Trump does.
Speaker 13: You know, it's not like that.
Speaker 1: It's real politics.
Speaker 3: Just overall.
Speaker 13: He feels like had Kamala gotten in, or had Biden
Speaker 13: gotten a second term, or had Hillary Clinton one, but
Speaker 13: you'd be having all these same problems more.
Speaker 3: Than likely with Iran and other things, But you would have.
Speaker 14: Had like the COVID the like with the climate lockdowns.
Speaker 14: You'd have more feminism we've had art, you'd have harder
Speaker 14: left stuff. The trans agenda would probably still be moving.
Speaker 13: Like he's just saying, out of.
Speaker 3: The two things, this is what it is. And nobody
Speaker 3: likes the American political system.
Speaker 14: I don't think there's anyone at this point who thinks
Speaker 14: our right left Republican Democrats, red team versus Blue Team
Speaker 14: Shenanigans are ideal.
Speaker 15: Nobody likes it.
Speaker 10: Well, we're stuck with it for right.
Speaker 14: Now and within the system's sucking right now.
Speaker 3: That's kind of how Ander sees it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not to speak for him, but yeah, well I
Speaker 1: think I think you.
Speaker 3: Guys will like destroyer debate.
Speaker 14: I think he's got some some arguments planned for that
Speaker 14: that people.
Speaker 3: Won't see coming.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we probably need to we need to like live
Speaker 1: stream that and or like a car or review or
Speaker 1: react to that. I'm very interested in it. But also, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I think Andrew tends to be a real
Speaker 1: politic type of guy. So he's looking at the absolute
Speaker 1: reality of the situation. And you know, the way politics
Speaker 1: works is that it's always compromised. No politician ever, I've
Speaker 1: never seen a politician actually do what they campaigned on ever.
Speaker 4: So you're gonna get these if you're lucky.
Speaker 14: If you get that's a really good that's a really
Speaker 14: good candidate.
Speaker 1: If they do have the right.
Speaker 14: Yeah, So Andrew talked talked to owen Foyer, like they
Speaker 14: had a phone call.
Speaker 3: A few days ago. They're they're pals, they get along.
Speaker 12: They are not enemies.
Speaker 13: They're not going to hate each other after this or
Speaker 13: anything like that.
Speaker 16: So I think it'll be a.
Speaker 1: Really good, really productive right That sounds awesome. Yeah, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Anything else you want to leave us with, you're welcome
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 14: If you want, no other than Andrew and I have
Speaker 14: a whole bunch of debates coming up. We have the
Speaker 14: Shoyer versus Wilson debate the next day that I'm debating
Speaker 14: Brian Shapiro.
Speaker 1: Everyone, that'll be fun.
Speaker 17: Okay, Yeah, we're going.
Speaker 3: To debate seminism. I don't know why he wants to
Speaker 3: do that to himself, right, Hey.
Speaker 18: You know, I'll do it.
Speaker 10: I'm game.
Speaker 14: And then of course we have Debate Time eight coming up.
Speaker 3: There's a lot, so everybody go get tickets for those things.
Speaker 4: Awesome.
Speaker 1: I messaged James, I'd like to be involved in future
Speaker 1: debate cons if you if you'd have me, I'd like
Speaker 1: to be involved in some some level.
Speaker 4: I'm if you could put it, we'll get a word
Speaker 4: in for me.
Speaker 1: I think. By the way, I have a couple. Uh
Speaker 1: we're working on a Protestant pastor who wants to debate
Speaker 1: me on modern day debate. I forget the pastor's name,
Speaker 1: but he wants to do a sola scriptura. That'll be
Speaker 1: coming up. And then I'm supposed to have another debate
Speaker 1: with Captain to crap rock. I forget when that might
Speaker 1: be this week too. I can't remember what guys remember
Speaker 1: that this weekend will be the live in person Freemason debate.
Speaker 1: I'll be debating Chase Geyser, also of Info War's fame,
Speaker 1: and his freemason buddy, will be debating whether.
Speaker 4: A Christian can be a Freemason. So that's gonna be
Speaker 4: a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: Jacob says. If you look at wiki, there's an article
Speaker 1: on Savac which is Iranian intelligence torture.
Speaker 3: Cee.
Speaker 1: I am Asad trained the Shaw's secret police.
Speaker 4: I'm aware of that. I've read some books on that.
Speaker 1: We did a coudetad to their democracy.
Speaker 4: I've done many.
Speaker 1: Podcasts on the overthrow of Mozadek and the install installment
Speaker 1: of the Shaw. I've read several books on that, and
Speaker 1: we've also talked about on my channel the US propping
Speaker 1: up and making alliances with the Ayahtola. Originally they had
Speaker 1: to deal with the Iatola Kashawnee. After the Shaw didn't work,
Speaker 1: they immediately made a deal British intelligence and the CIA
Speaker 1: did with the Iatola Kashawani and he didn't work very well,
Speaker 1: and then we got Iatola Kamani, and there were backdoor
Speaker 1: deals with Iatola Kamani too, and this actually ties into
Speaker 1: Banana up the butts one hundred dollars.
Speaker 4: Super chat, he says, Andrew Meyers confused.
Speaker 1: We overthrew Mosedekt, which eventually led to the rainy regime
Speaker 1: that we currently have.
Speaker 4: That's correct, That led to the Iatolas.
Speaker 1: This created the Petro doll We created the petro dollar
Speaker 1: system so that we have a reason to have foreign
Speaker 1: interest and to intervene globally.
Speaker 4: That's exactly what I was saying about Kissinger.
Speaker 1: Kissinger engineered this at Bilderberg in the late seventies, and
Speaker 1: that's written about in multiple books. Two or three William
Speaker 1: Endoll books cover this. I believe Daniel Esslin's Bilderbergberg book
Speaker 1: covers this as well, which I'm meant to get to.
Speaker 1: And that's how we get to Bilderberg today is through
Speaker 1: this indirect route of the Petro dollar. Okay, So Daniel
Speaker 1: Esselin's excellent classic book from my publisher, Trying Day is
Speaker 1: the Bilderberg Group. And by the way, I just did
Speaker 1: a new interview with Daniel Esslin. It was about three
Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he said he's going to put it
Speaker 1: up very soon, but I still haven't seen it up yet,
Speaker 1: So look for my new interview with Daniel Eshlin.
Speaker 4: His channel has grown quite a bit.
Speaker 1: I think is three four five hundred thousand do now
Speaker 1: on YouTube, so that should be a good I think
Speaker 1: we did about an hour long podcast on Epstein and
Speaker 1: a bunch of other attendant issues. But the Kissinger really
Speaker 1: is the one that locked us into at I think
Speaker 1: the behest of the Rockefellers and others. Obviously, the petro
Speaker 1: dollar system that gives us as banana up the butt
Speaker 1: correctly says a reason to have all of these foreign
Speaker 1: interests to intervene globally. So, in other words, if the
Speaker 1: US has its own massive strategic oil tap that it
Speaker 1: doesn't need all of these other global oil sources, which
Speaker 1: is true, well then we don't need to have all
Speaker 1: these foreign involvements. But Kissinger realized, well, if we are
Speaker 1: artificially dependent upon all of these other countries, we now
Speaker 1: have a necessitated globalization situation, which provides the excuse for
Speaker 1: the very things that Andrew Meyer was arguing. So I
Speaker 1: agree with you and up the butt, and I think
Speaker 1: that Andrew's argument at this point falls apart. And that's
Speaker 1: what I was telling him about Kissinger and Builderberg in
Speaker 1: the nineteen seventies. And he admitted that, but he said,
Speaker 1: what it is different now because Trump is doing that
Speaker 1: for America. Well, I'm not sure I buy that argument,
Speaker 1: but it's an interesting line of argument. Darth five dollars says,
Speaker 1: I absolutely minded I mindedly scrolled past Jay's notifications like
Speaker 1: three times. Now, well, then you owe me more super chats.
Speaker 4: How's that, Zach? I think I did this in earlier
Speaker 4: it says.
Speaker 1: This is one hundred and fifty nine dollars says Christ
Speaker 1: has risen happy Pasca, blessed, Pasco, thank man. Indeed, he
Speaker 1: is appreciate that I'm slow today, you guys, because again,
Speaker 1: we drove back at three in the morning. I probably
Speaker 1: should have stayed at a hotel, but I don't know why.
Speaker 1: I just thought, now we'll just drive back. I actually
Speaker 1: wasn't thinking about you know, Pasca being I mean, Roku
Speaker 1: or Pasca. You're not leaving church until freaking four in
Speaker 1: the morning, dude, So I should have thought about that.
Speaker 1: But dire unfiltered five dollars. Last week, I saw a
Speaker 1: bunch of new Catholic converts and every video show showed
Speaker 1: baptisms by sprinkling. Wasn't this never normally used in the
Speaker 1: first thousand years. Yeah, My understanding is that it was
Speaker 1: pretty universally you know, dunking, and really there would just
Speaker 1: be maybe economia for aspersion, but over time aspersion, you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 1: economia ends up sometimes becoming the norm, and that's where
Speaker 1: you get these irregular disciplines that become you know, practice,
Speaker 1: which is unfortunate. But you know, the same thing happened
Speaker 1: in Serbia. You know, for many centuries in Serbia. Serbia
Speaker 1: was probably under you know, papist influence and they did
Speaker 1: aspersion for for a long time. So it's not ideal,
Speaker 1: but I think God's grace, you know, makes up for
Speaker 1: what's lacking. But that is an interesting question. And there
Speaker 1: is a scholarly text that I think is out of print,
Speaker 1: and it was Father Daniel of the Antiochian Church in Indiana,
Speaker 1: a good friend of ours, and he recommended me this
Speaker 1: this book. He said that this is the book that
Speaker 1: convinced him to become Orthodox. Was just the church of
Speaker 1: the first seven centuries, the way they practiced baptist in
Speaker 1: Paido Communion He argued that that was the thing that
Speaker 1: convinced him, like, just on the sacraments alone, he's like
Speaker 1: the only church doing it the way that the universal
Speaker 1: East and West Church did it in the first seven centuries. Okay,
Speaker 1: ban this idiot, this is a retard. Here are you
Speaker 1: getting these dumb bots in the chat?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 4: Let me make sure I didn't miss the super chair here.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm gonna do redeem zoomer you guys, Darth grumpy,
Speaker 1: welcome to the members. Well, Emmanuel says, for fifty Mexican pesos,
Speaker 1: they say honey, lemon and cinnamon might help you. Don't
Speaker 1: blame me if you start seeing shadow twerkers. Well, I
Speaker 1: was driving at four in the Morning's why I saw
Speaker 1: shadow people talking. But that might have also been because
Speaker 1: I was up in the club. Kievan rus five dollars.
Speaker 10: To add to the.
Speaker 1: Petro dollar argument, it's also to newter an enemy at
Speaker 1: a time that adversaries are building their militaries. This will
Speaker 1: solidify US dominance. None of this is going to matter
Speaker 1: if you don't fix the dollar.
Speaker 4: Dude, this is all retrded. I'm sorry, I just don't
Speaker 4: believe it.
Speaker 1: Even if that's even if that's Trump's motivation to solidify
Speaker 1: US dominance. I mean, if we just keep sliding away
Speaker 1: with inflation and the dollar dies, like, it's not going
Speaker 1: to matter that you get.
Speaker 3: More oil.
Speaker 1: Tiffany five dollars. Tiffany and Josh from X We did
Speaker 1: get into Phronsie last night and Uzzo cristosinesty.
Speaker 3: How did I know?
Speaker 1: Because every Orthodox person was drinking last night, That's why
Speaker 1: except for me. All right, so you know I wasn't
Speaker 1: drinking if I was driving home with three in the morning, right,
Speaker 1: Jewish skeptic five dollars. If you're at a church with
Speaker 1: a lot of East Europeans, vodka and wine flows.
Speaker 4: At Pasca especially.
Speaker 1: I don't think the last few of us got out
Speaker 1: until five thirty am. I understand. I was driving home
Speaker 1: at five thirty am. Eddie says net and Yahoo. Oh
Speaker 1: yeah that remember the Kanye's bizarre skit or whatever that was.
Speaker 1: Derek mac ten dollars. What do you think America's politically
Speaker 1: and culture like in five to ten years, Well, hopefully
Speaker 1: we can become more orthodox.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: So, by the way, that's a great point to transition
Speaker 1: over here to this.
Speaker 4: Brief story about.
Speaker 1: Thousands of tweets and comments about all the Orthodox people
Speaker 1: that were just received. But I didn't want to play
Speaker 1: this because somebody just now sent it to me and said, hey,
Speaker 1: you got to see Sam Hyde was arguing with an atheist.
Speaker 1: All right, let's see this. This is interesting. Do you
Speaker 1: believe in God?
Speaker 3: Believe him?
Speaker 17: That might be a high power book.
Speaker 1: Create Our creator loves this man for some reason. Can
Speaker 1: you see why I can't?
Speaker 8: Who is this dude?
Speaker 1: Who is Sam Hyde arguing with a Jewish atheist intellectual?
Speaker 8: Or what is this?
Speaker 4: I don't even know what this is.
Speaker 17: I believe in a higher power. What that higher power is?
Speaker 17: I don't believe it's God? The Bible?
Speaker 3: Who wrote?
Speaker 17: Who wrote the Bible?
Speaker 1: The people that will?
Speaker 17: Who could read it right back then? Who could reader?
Speaker 17: Who could read and write back then?
Speaker 3: Who cares?
Speaker 1: This is some high tier argumentation here by the atheist
Speaker 1: who wrote the Bible? Who could even read and write
Speaker 1: back then? This sounds like our freemason guy that called
Speaker 1: in like his level of argument.
Speaker 17: Definitely not the poor people, the rich, the nobles fuck
Speaker 17: the poor.
Speaker 1: So the poor people couldn't read the Bible, so it's false. Uh,
Speaker 1: And it's the nobles that wrote the Bible.
Speaker 17: This is ridiculous think that story is biased. I don't
Speaker 17: give a shit about poor people in the Bible. You
Speaker 17: see some bright light. We could just be all the pictures.
Speaker 1: Is this what is this jubilee with Sam Hyde versus
Speaker 1: twenty Jewish atheists? What is this illustration.
Speaker 17: Farm? Yeah, that's probably what it is. It's probably as
Speaker 17: that came here in seed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Aliens is always more intellectually sophisticated and convincing to
Speaker 1: atheists than God's existence. Right, sure, Aliens right taint nothing
Speaker 1: the dollars. Half of these arguments pretend that the US
Speaker 1: is the good guy, China is the bad guy, as
Speaker 1: if anti natalist elites consistently direct US policies as good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that could have brought that up to with Andrew, but
Speaker 1: I didn't want to go off into too many other areas.
Speaker 1: I wanted to stick to just kind of what he
Speaker 1: what he thought was the killer you know, line of argument.
Speaker 1: And to him it seemed to be, uh that whatever
Speaker 1: helps the petro dollar. It's like, well, I mean, what
Speaker 1: if we nuked every other country and then we took
Speaker 1: all of the world's oil, would that helped them? I mean,
Speaker 1: it just seems like it could lead to it, just
Speaker 1: a very flimsy basis. Basically, Nibsen fifty dollars. Damn, I
Speaker 1: gotta go to bedad. I'll have to watch redem Goober
Speaker 1: clip tomorrow. Christ has risen, Lord have mercy on all
Speaker 1: of us. I'm gonna get to it, dude, I'm trying.
Speaker 1: Just let me finish this clip and then we'll get
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 17: Very simil build those pyramids with a bunch of.
Speaker 1: What the heck is this?
Speaker 8: Even?
Speaker 1: What the hell is even this carryings?
Speaker 8: Okay?
Speaker 19: And then there went weren't landmarks for some ship to
Speaker 19: see coming from out of space where they was supposed
Speaker 19: to land?
Speaker 17: Possibly?
Speaker 1: Okay? So yeah, world's smartest atheist alien believer here, right.
Speaker 1: The Bible is crazy, It's totally insane. But the mega
Speaker 1: lists are alien landing pads and airports for the aliens.
Speaker 4: Very rational.
Speaker 1: You're right, that's the most sam read in my mind,
Speaker 1: the most plausible hyper advanced alien race would need landing markers.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And by the way, they fly a million years or
Speaker 1: light years to get here, and then their dinky little
Speaker 1: thing crashes, right, so they have light speed, but they
Speaker 1: don't know how to land in America. In America's in
Speaker 1: America's orbit and the Earth's orbit and climate. Right, you're right. Oh,
Speaker 1: we've mastered galactic travel, big piles of Rocksand this is.
Speaker 4: My line of argument. Same hide likes, Jayder.
Speaker 19: I think Jesus with a long beard and a robe
Speaker 19: and blue eyes I do. And blonde hair doctrination. Blond
Speaker 19: hair doctrination.
Speaker 1: By the way, the only time I've even seen this
Speaker 1: ridiculous blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus is at a Mormon
Speaker 1: dumb Mormon pictures and at an Episcopal church in Memphis.
Speaker 1: And the weird thing about the Episcopal church in Memphis,
Speaker 1: I'll never be able to find that is the guy
Speaker 1: who painted it also painted a bunch of painting of
Speaker 1: images of Christ for the Vatican and for the Pope.
Speaker 1: Let me, actually, you guys should see this because first
Speaker 1: of all, the shows you want you have to have
Speaker 1: a canonical approach to icons.
Speaker 4: You can't just paint Jesus in a way anyway that you.
Speaker 1: Want, which, by the way, refutes the Roman Catholic Jesuit
Speaker 1: portrayal of Jesus as Asian Jesus, Jesus as black Jesus.
Speaker 1: That is not Jesus, that becomes gnostic Jesus because he's
Speaker 1: no longer Hebrew and he's no longer the fulfillment of
Speaker 1: the genial g that he's supposed to fulfill. Duh uh
Speaker 1: let But you got to see this because this illustrates
Speaker 1: a great point. And by the way, this guy, this artist,
Speaker 1: remember looking this up back when I was a trad
Speaker 1: cat is a hermeticist weirdo. I don't even remember how
Speaker 1: I ended up. I ended up touring this church one
Speaker 1: time for some reason. I don't remember how that came about.
Speaker 1: Memphis Episcopal Church. Blonde to Jesus. I don't think it'll
Speaker 1: come up as Aryan Jesus blonde.
Speaker 8: Jesus.
Speaker 1: It's a really weird and the other he put E
Speaker 1: equals mc squared.
Speaker 4: On the image.
Speaker 1: You can't make this up right, So this is some
Speaker 1: sort of weird gnostic Jesus.
Speaker 8: Here it is? This is it.
Speaker 1: Derosan that's his name. Let's see if we can get
Speaker 1: a full image of this for you guys. Okay, so
Speaker 1: this is Arian Jesus up in the clouds. And I'll
Speaker 1: be honest with you. I mean it's kind of cool,
Speaker 1: like just from an art perspective, but it's totally heterodox,
Speaker 1: like totally empathetical too. What the heck?
Speaker 8: No, where do it go?
Speaker 4: You'll just have to look at it here.
Speaker 1: You see it there and uh, the book that the
Speaker 1: angel is holding, it's a uh. It says E equals
Speaker 1: MC squared on it. And here's another image of that.
Speaker 1: I think that this is that same guy, like arian
Speaker 1: gnostic Jesus. Uh, and this is the one that he
Speaker 1: did for I think like some Roman Catholic churches, here's
Speaker 1: a heterodox image of God the Father. I guess is
Speaker 1: who that is. And it's Saint John's Episcopal Church in Memphis.
Speaker 1: But it's just crazy, dude, It's like, what, Oh, here's
Speaker 1: another one with Dolph Lungren Jesus. You see Dolph Lungrin there,
Speaker 1: giant Nordic Jesus there.
Speaker 4: So in that regard, like.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with the Jewish atheist man here, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's not Jesus. But like that doesn't prove anything in
Speaker 1: regard to your alien thesis dog instead of indoctrination. Because
Speaker 1: I was an atheist until my late.
Speaker 17: Twenties, you still believe in Santa Claus.
Speaker 1: So tell me about copyrights and copy wrongs, all right,
Speaker 1: that was a funny exchange.
Speaker 4: Thanks for sending me that clip. You guys had not
Speaker 4: seen that. I didn't want to mention this because so
Speaker 4: many people were I didn't. This kind of surprised me.
Speaker 1: On the timeline, it was like Holy Saturday welcomes new
Speaker 1: Orthodox Christians worldwide, and there's just like, I mean, this
Speaker 1: picture of this chick here is like two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty thousand, thirty five thousand, thirty thousand, So this is
Speaker 1: this went pretty viral relatively speaking, all these people being received.
Speaker 4: The other thing that was funny too.
Speaker 1: I checked a lot of the comments and a lot
Speaker 1: of the posts, and many of the guys that were
Speaker 1: these new converts, they followed you boy right here. The girls,
Speaker 1: I don't think any of them. So none of the
Speaker 1: girls who converted followed me, but all of the dudes
Speaker 1: followed me. I thought that was funny but not surprising. Okay,
Speaker 1: I know you guys have been asking, and I do
Speaker 1: want to cover Builderberg too, but since so many people
Speaker 1: are bitching about cover redeem Zoomer guys, I can't imagine
Speaker 1: that he actually said something that's like super pressing and
Speaker 1: like oh uh oh, hurry quick Jay refute redeem Zoomer
Speaker 1: or else everybody's going to become Calvinist again, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: we just saw Redeemed Zoomer's response to me three years later, right,
Speaker 1: and that was even worse than the arguments he was
Speaker 1: making initially. So he said that there's a general Protestant
Speaker 1: communion that has a magisterial authority to mind people's consciences.
Speaker 1: What basically nothing, no proposition in that sentence or assertion
Speaker 1: that sentence is correct.
Speaker 4: There is no Protestant magistarium.
Speaker 1: There is no Protestant communion, and they might try to
Speaker 1: mind person's consciences, but that's in contrast to the Reformation
Speaker 1: distinctives of right of private interpretation, freedom of conscience, and
Speaker 1: freedom of worship.
Speaker 4: Nibs some fifty dollars. Dang, I have but to go
Speaker 4: to bed and no, we did that.
Speaker 1: Excuse me at m sacs ten dollars. Even a sleep
Speaker 1: deprived person, even when you're a sleep deprived you lay
Speaker 1: out facts clearly. I always learn from your streams. Thank
Speaker 1: you for your time, Thank you man. I see Harris
Speaker 1: five dollars. I saw a clip of you talking about
Speaker 1: George Washington. Did you see the painting of his apotheosis. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we went to it. That's where we went to the Masonic,
Speaker 1: the Washington Masonic Monument. And by the way, the Freemasons
Speaker 1: like they're the ones that really treat the Founding Fathers
Speaker 1: like the Church fathers. Right now, we'll get into this
Speaker 1: in the debate this weekend. I'll be debating Chase Geyser
Speaker 1: and his lodge. But buddy, I'm just joking in Nashville
Speaker 1: at I don't even know where this is. I hope
Speaker 1: it's not on a Masonic lodge. But that's this weekend.
Speaker 1: And yes, you can get tickets. I should have added
Speaker 1: the tickets to the show description. But SCHUMIASI says, blessed
Speaker 1: pasca to the number one bipack bipoc face Lord, I'm
Speaker 1: glad that you see reality. People are beginning to see reality.
Speaker 1: Raptured Wes, Can I get a Van dam version of Jesus?
Speaker 1: Now that would be again, these are all non canonical
Speaker 1: heterodox icons. Parker ten dollars. I'm a catechumen at Father
Speaker 1: Daniels Parish. He said last night was the largest pasca
Speaker 1: they've ever had.
Speaker 8: Glory to God.
Speaker 4: That's awesome. Yeah, Father Daniel's great. By the way, if
Speaker 4: you want to call in.
Speaker 1: And refute me, tonight is your best your best chance,
Speaker 1: because I'm out of it. I'm kind of.
Speaker 4: Named shell shocked. All right, let's get into.
Speaker 1: Redeem Komer's video here, and we're gonna speed him up
Speaker 1: a little bit.
Speaker 4: Ten reasons he's not Orthodox.
Speaker 1: I might just skip to each of the reasons, because
Speaker 1: this is like a forty minute video.
Speaker 4: I'm not watching this whole video. We'll skip through each
Speaker 4: of these.
Speaker 1: Let's see what he says.
Speaker 15: And today we're talking about ten reasons why I'm not
Speaker 15: Eastern Orthodox. I've made similar videos like this a few
Speaker 15: years ago, but as many people let me know, those
Speaker 15: videos were not very well thought out because that was
Speaker 15: before I'd read any of the Church Fathers were anny
Speaker 15: distinctively Eastern Orthodoxy elogions like let him are lost here
Speaker 15: Michael Pump.
Speaker 1: Okay, so uh, now he's read a couple of Church
Speaker 1: Fathers and a couple of Orthodoxy illusions. So now it's
Speaker 1: all going to be more thought out. And again we
Speaker 1: saw from the previous video against me that it was, oh,
Speaker 1: it was system building. He's gonna come up with a
Speaker 1: way to make it all work. The whole point I know,
Speaker 1: what we argue against these people is we don't need
Speaker 1: you inventing the wheel every generation. Right, if Protestantism and
Speaker 1: Calvinism are true and the Reformation theology is true, guess what,
Speaker 1: every generation has the burden of reinventing the wheel. They're
Speaker 1: going to have to go back and see did the
Speaker 1: Bible actually teach the Trinity? Did the Church fathers actually
Speaker 1: teach vat General Regeneration?
Speaker 3: On and on and on.
Speaker 1: So the wheel has to be completely reinvented, completely read
Speaker 1: on every generation. So the very act of having to
Speaker 1: system build is itself an argument against Protestantism Zanski.
Speaker 15: And as a result, my reasons were kind of simplistic,
Speaker 15: So I thought I should revisit this issue after doing
Speaker 15: the reading, especially because I've been making a lot of
Speaker 15: videos about Roman Catholicism, like sixty seven reasons of not
Speaker 15: Catholic were all the Catholic contradictions, and many of you
Speaker 15: guys were requesting similar videos for Orthodoxy. Now, my reasons
Speaker 15: for not being Orthodox are very different than my reasons
Speaker 15: for not being Catholic. I don't think there are infallible
Speaker 15: or dogmatic contradictions in Orthodoxy the same way there are
Speaker 15: in Patholicism, but I still think there are inconsistencies and
Speaker 15: theological issues. So we'll be talking about that. But for
Speaker 15: only a small percentage people watch. My videos are actually subscribed,
Speaker 15: So if you like what you see you want to
Speaker 15: see more, consider of subscribing. It's free and you can
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Speaker 12: Twics.
Speaker 15: So now let's get into it. The first reason I'm
Speaker 15: not convinced by Eastern orthodoxy is what I would call
Speaker 15: the philioquay conundrum. The philioquay is the belief that the
Speaker 15: Holy Spirit personally proceeds from the Father and the Son
Speaker 15: or philioquay in Latin, instead of just from the Father.
Speaker 15: So the West, meaning Catholics and Protestants, teaches the philioquay,
Speaker 15: the East does not.
Speaker 3: So who is right?
Speaker 15: Now, that's not a debate I can solve in this video.
Speaker 15: That debate's been going on for over a thousand years.
Speaker 15: There's three out of the debates between like Chrisian Wagner
Speaker 15: and David or hum that you can watch on YouTube.
Speaker 15: Maybe in the future, I'll do a vide where I
Speaker 15: actually try and argue for the philioquay. But this video
Speaker 15: is about whether or not the philioqua is a heresy.
Speaker 15: Not every error is a heresy. You could be wrong
Speaker 15: about the age of the Earth without being a heretic.
Speaker 15: A heresy, it's not just an error, it's an error
Speaker 15: that is so bad it destroys the fundamentals of the
Speaker 15: Christian faith and makes one not a Christian. Heresy is
Speaker 15: a very serious accusation. And the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches
Speaker 15: that the philioqua is a demonic trinitarian heresy. That's what
Speaker 15: Saint Gregory Palmus taught. He's the greatest postkis I'm saying
Speaker 15: freest Orthodoxy, and his views were codified at the Council
Speaker 15: of Black Rene, which is binding on all Orthodox Christians.
Speaker 15: And the identity of the Orthodox Church is being the
Speaker 15: church that is free from heresy. The word Orthodox means
Speaker 15: right belief, contrasted with heterdox taut heresy for five hundred years,
Speaker 15: and that fundamentally contradicts the identity of what the Orthodox
Speaker 15: Church is supposed to be. If the Orthodox Church, if
Speaker 15: their largest jurisdiction taught a trinitarian heresy for five hundred years,
Speaker 15: and nobody in that jurisdiction did anything about it, and
Speaker 15: there wasn't a formal breaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is not true. You can read Sashensky's treatment
Speaker 1: of the West from five hundred to one thousand, and
Speaker 1: they are not clearly teaching the double hypostatic procession. So
Speaker 1: this becomes codified in twelve seventy four at Lions and
Speaker 1: then in a couple of centuries later at the Council
Speaker 1: of Florence. So this is a basic mistake early on
Speaker 1: that the Latin Church from five hundred to one thousand
Speaker 1: explicitly clearly taught the Philly oquay. This is within the
Speaker 1: timeframe when, for example, Saint Maximus says, perhaps they mean economia,
Speaker 1: so let's grant them the benefit of the doubt. So
Speaker 1: it is a time period where it is unclear exactly
Speaker 1: what the Latin West means, and that's exactly what Sashensky
Speaker 1: had him self says in his scholarly treatment of the
Speaker 1: history of the philioquayd doctrine.
Speaker 4: So that is simply not true.
Speaker 1: And no, we don't, for example, anathematize every theological error
Speaker 1: even until there's specifically the potentiality of that error affecting
Speaker 1: the church at a large scale, or the church father
Speaker 1: or the person or the patristic writer in question obstinately
Speaker 1: rejects the rest of the Church. So, for example, Augustine
Speaker 1: is not a heretic because he said and on the Trinity,
Speaker 1: I give this book to.
Speaker 4: The universal Church, not to Rome by the way, to judge.
Speaker 1: Whether or not what I say is correct, and if
Speaker 1: there's anything wrong in it, I submit to the judgment
Speaker 1: of the Church.
Speaker 4: That's the attitude of a saint.
Speaker 1: Origin, on the other hand, did not listen to the
Speaker 1: rest of the church and the synods and the bishops,
Speaker 1: and continued on in his neoplatonic heresies, which denied many
Speaker 1: fundamental teachings of the orthox Catholic Church at that time,
Speaker 1: and thus he was condemned even in his own day
Speaker 1: and in multiple ecumenical counts. So the difference between a
Speaker 1: heretic who's obstinate and a person who made theological error
Speaker 1: is simply obstinacy and continuing in that error to death right.
Speaker 4: Tertullian began good, but he left.
Speaker 1: The church and ended in heresy, So he's a heretic.
Speaker 15: So the East did not become separate officially from the
Speaker 15: West until over six hundred years after Augustin first started
Speaker 15: teaching the fiel Yokuang. The West is the patriarchate of Rome,
Speaker 15: which is what the East worthyde Well.
Speaker 1: That's an an arbitrary standard that somehow we're supposed to
Speaker 1: submit to his idea of when there should have been
Speaker 1: a excommunication and a rejection. And he doesn't know this
Speaker 1: controversy that well, he has not read Sashchensky on it.
Speaker 1: If he did, he would know that it's more complex
Speaker 1: than just saying why didn't the East just immediately cut
Speaker 1: off the entire West? Well, again, it was if you
Speaker 1: read the letter to Marhinus by Saint Maximus. He says,
Speaker 1: it's not clear exactly what they mean or what they're teaching.
Speaker 1: Thus it's not dogmatized until twelve seventy four at the
Speaker 1: Latin Counts of Lions.
Speaker 4: All right, let's move on to the next one.
Speaker 15: Icons believe the honor given to the image passes to
Speaker 15: the prototype. That's what Saint Basil says, And in context,
Speaker 15: he was not talking about icons. He was talking about
Speaker 15: the relation of the sun of the Father. But they
Speaker 15: believe that logic applies. They think icons are windows into Heaven.
Speaker 15: It's a very big deal for them. Where of their
Speaker 15: infallible ecumenical councils is Niciatu, which claims infallibly that icon
Speaker 15: veneration is an unbroken tradition of the Apostles, which means,
Speaker 15: if Orthodoxy is correct, icon veneration has always been practiced
Speaker 15: in the Christian churches. Here's the problem. All the best
Speaker 15: historical evidence completely contradicts that before three twenty five eight,
Speaker 15: before Constantine, before there's this massive.
Speaker 1: You notice he immediately skipped every biblical Old Testament example.
Speaker 4: This is what they always do.
Speaker 1: So, uh, I'm not going to refute and rehearse the
Speaker 1: entire arguments for icons.
Speaker 4: But Orthodox Shahada.
Speaker 1: Made a documentary illustrating probably I think the strongest refutation
Speaker 1: of the iconic class.
Speaker 10: You let him deny.
Speaker 1: And the reason this is so good is that this
Speaker 1: refutes the Protestants from the Bible. So if you can
Speaker 1: demonstrate that the iconographic tradition is actually rooted in the
Speaker 1: Old Testament temple liturgy, then all of these other dumb
Speaker 1: arguments about well, I don't see a clear representation in
Speaker 1: the year three hundred, Well I've been to the Catacombs,
Speaker 1: and the Catacombs in Rome have clear iconographic representations from
Speaker 1: their third, fourth, fifth century. Okay, So then that refutes
Speaker 1: the idea that they didn't exist historically. Now you can
Speaker 1: go to in the catacombs and you can see altars,
Speaker 1: and they have pictorial imagery of Christ very early. Okay.
Speaker 1: So if the roots of iconography are Hebraic, that immediately
Speaker 1: undercuts this low tier argumentation that I don't say a
Speaker 1: Patristic specific citation in the first three centuries, this Protestant
Speaker 1: little ghost. How about if I go to Protestant scholars
Speaker 1: who admit that there are those things early on, And
Speaker 1: that's why I made this brief twenty minute video here
Speaker 1: refuting Gavin Ortland icons And I'm just arguing from the
Speaker 1: first chapter or second chapter of Hugh Weybrew's book, who's
Speaker 1: an Anglican liturgical scholar, called the Byzantine Liturgy. And here's
Speaker 1: that twenty minute video. So that should be an easy
Speaker 1: refutation of this low tier argument. So this guy is
Speaker 1: like ten years behind everyone else, and then he reads
Speaker 1: a few books and in three years comes back with
Speaker 1: being seven years behind everyone else. Okay, let's see the
Speaker 1: next line of argument here.
Speaker 15: Although we know where the church is not where the
Speaker 15: Church isn't if you read the Orthodox ruder, they very
Speaker 15: clearly know where the Church isn't. And even if there
Speaker 15: could be some grace in other communions, it's not real
Speaker 15: Christianity in the West. Everything after the Great Schism, meaning
Speaker 15: Catholicism and Protestantism, is not real Christianity. According to eas North.
Speaker 15: I's see here's the problem. A major reason why I
Speaker 15: am Christian, a major reason why many people are Christian
Speaker 15: is seeing the impacts that Christianity has in the world,
Speaker 15: Seeing how Christianity improves lives, improve societies, and transform society
Speaker 15: for the better, spreads God's kingdom on earth. The vast
Speaker 15: majority of the great things Christianity has done for the
Speaker 15: world has been in Western Christianity.
Speaker 1: You know, if this is a very subjective line of argumentation,
Speaker 1: because it really depends on which position is correct to
Speaker 1: know through your paradigm what constitutes a better civilization or
Speaker 1: what constitutes a greater value.
Speaker 4: Of you know, quality of life.
Speaker 1: Right, if we're just measuring it by material success or
Speaker 1: something like that, well, then atheism might provide a material
Speaker 1: success because atheistic societies have become very scientifically advanced. Right,
Speaker 1: the modern West is atheistic. It's very scientifically advanced. So
Speaker 1: does that mean atheism is true? I mean, this is
Speaker 1: just a silly line of argument. It should be pretty
Speaker 1: obvious that you know. It's just it's the same line
Speaker 1: of argumentation that Roman Catholics do when they say Rome
Speaker 1: is the true church because we won, and we have numbers,
Speaker 1: bro and the papers. He's got a lot of money
Speaker 1: in churches, so we win. This is so stupid, it's
Speaker 1: the lowest tier of argumentation because they don't even realize.
Speaker 1: Augustine City of God is written to refute that line
Speaker 1: of argumentation. Gabriel says, for five dollars was Origin. Yes,
Speaker 1: he was condemned by even a saint. I always forget
Speaker 1: the name. It's either Saint Optitus or Saint or Origin
Speaker 1: was condemned by saints in.
Speaker 4: His own day. And yes he died outside of communion.
Speaker 4: He's a heretic.
Speaker 1: Forty crush two dollars. Did you watch Trevor Moore's Kiddy History.
Speaker 1: I saw a skit going around about circumcision. Is that
Speaker 1: what you're talking about?
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Octavian five dollars hot come you avoid debates with Doug Wilson.
Speaker 1: I didn't avoid a debate with Doug Wilson. We tried
Speaker 1: to get him to come to debate on Timcast. What
Speaker 1: are you talking about. You're a longtime super chatter. You
Speaker 1: should know that I'm not avoiding debates with people like
Speaker 1: Doug Wilson. In fact, I just said the other day,
Speaker 1: we can try to set up a debate with Doug Wilson,
Speaker 1: but he won't.
Speaker 4: I don't think he'll do it. He didn't do Now.
Speaker 1: Supposedly he told Tallahassee Patriot he would debate me, and
Speaker 1: when we did the three way debate on tim Cast,
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be originally me, Tim Gordon and
Speaker 1: Doug Wilson. Now supposedly Doug Wilson wasn't able to or
Speaker 1: didn't want to. I don't know if he didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it, cancel or couldn't do it right, Who knows.
Speaker 4: But no, I'm not opposed to debating Doug Wilson.
Speaker 1: In fact, he did so bad against Heshmeier that now
Speaker 1: I'm like, I smell blood and I would love to
Speaker 1: debate Doug Wilson, but I don't appreciate that super chat
Speaker 1: Octavian that I'm avoiding that you don't even know.
Speaker 4: Oh he's trolling. He's joking.
Speaker 1: Okay, good beat Box. Would you be down to do
Speaker 1: Maton interview in the future.
Speaker 18: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I texted with Maton when we were in LA and
Speaker 1: I was about to go on there, but we had
Speaker 1: to leave a couple of days before he could do it.
Speaker 1: So we talked about doing it in the future. And
Speaker 1: there's another huge channel that I also have a possibility
Speaker 1: of going on in LA in La as well, but
Speaker 1: I don't know exactly when I'm gonna be back in La.
Speaker 1: So Octavian gifted ten membership. Appreciate the Celestium ten dollars.
Speaker 4: I hope you feel better soon. I don't feel bad.
Speaker 1: I'm just tired, like we just it feels hungover because
Speaker 1: you know, I feel hungover because of the drive Tallahassee.
Speaker 1: What's up, man, I know that you were originally talking
Speaker 1: to Doug Wilson.
Speaker 20: Yeah, Jay, I just wanted to briefly say I can
Speaker 20: can affirm that Doug Wilson said to be in person
Speaker 20: that he's up to debate you. I spoke with him
Speaker 20: at NAT time The National Conservatism Conference in DC back
Speaker 20: in September. I basically explayed, you know, you helped lead
Speaker 20: a lot of young Brent to orthodoxy, you've appeared out
Speaker 20: of the Alex Jones show, et cetera, et cetera. And
Speaker 20: he said he'd be open to debate you in terms
Speaker 20: of a PROSTI versus orthodox debate.
Speaker 8: We exchanged email.
Speaker 20: Addresses, but then the Charlie kirkavet happened September totally distracted.
Speaker 1: Okay, but then, but then, but then, but I followed
Speaker 1: up with him just.
Speaker 3: Recently the other day an abitor back from him.
Speaker 4: Yet okay, well follow once more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, felt free to uh. And also I thought that
Speaker 1: initially we thought FDA might do it, and the FDA,
Speaker 1: see if I recall, he seemed open to it.
Speaker 4: And then I don't know what happened with that.
Speaker 1: But then I thought, well, why don't we just get
Speaker 1: Doug Wilson into the three way debate on timcast?
Speaker 4: And do you know by chance why that did he
Speaker 4: mention that at any point?
Speaker 8: Oh no, I have no idea about that.
Speaker 1: Okay, because the timcast girl was trying to get Doug Wilson.
Speaker 1: But anyway, Yeah, that's all I want to let you know, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I appreciate that. Well, let me know what he says
Speaker 1: if he replies to be honest with you, though I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't want to do. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: somewhere and do an in person debate because we just
Speaker 1: got back from a five week road trip of twenty podcasts.
Speaker 1: So I'm willing to do something definitely online in the
Speaker 1: near future. And the only reason I'm doing this national
Speaker 1: debate is because Nashville is not very far from here.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to drive or fly somewhere to
Speaker 1: debate Doug Wilson, but we can definitely set something up virtually.
Speaker 1: David says her twenty dollars. If it was up to Jay,
Speaker 1: all the failing Fathers would be Orthodox. They obviously didn't
Speaker 1: know what they were doing. It's not like they created
Speaker 1: the best nation on the earth they ever seen in history. Dude,
Speaker 1: are you serious? David, please call in. This is so stupid.
Speaker 4: I hope you're trolling that if that's like an actual
Speaker 4: argument that you're making.
Speaker 1: I mean, Matt Augusta is se God has written against
Speaker 1: the idea that you can tell which religion is true
Speaker 1: based on monetary and civilizational success.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is such a dumb argument.
Speaker 1: I mean, by that line of argument, Rome fell because
Speaker 1: it became Christian, Right, That's what the Pagans were saying
Speaker 1: to Augustine. So the entire book City of God is
Speaker 1: written as an apologetic to refute that argument. And these
Speaker 1: mind bombed, idiot Roman Catholics don't even know that, Like
Speaker 1: you're quoting at me that orthodoxy is false because fourteen
Speaker 1: fifty three bro it fell to you know, Islam. It's like, dude,
Speaker 1: it fell when it was a uniate. That that refuted you,
Speaker 1: You dummy. So Daniel or David please call in because
Speaker 1: I would love to refute this retarded line of argumentation
Speaker 1: that the Founding Fathers. I mean, it's just an oversimplification, right,
Speaker 1: and the Founding Fathers could be right on certain things
Speaker 1: and wrong on a lot of other things and create
Speaker 1: a nation that was very successful. But if you're trying
Speaker 1: to defend against my point earlier about the Founding Fathers
Speaker 1: and their emphasis in regards to Freemasonry, like, oh, I
Speaker 1: guess freemasonry is true then because the Church Fathers, I mean,
Speaker 1: the Founding Fathers were Freemasons in large parts, not all
Speaker 1: of them, but many of them and the American Enlightenment
Speaker 1: ethos produced America, so therefore it's true. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is so stupid, dude. I mean, do you not understand
Speaker 1: why that's a bad line. I think a lot of
Speaker 1: you guys actually don't understand why that's a bad line
Speaker 1: of argument. And you know, I was trying to illustrate
Speaker 1: that with Andrew Meyer by pointing out, like, if you
Speaker 1: go this line of argument, it seems to lead to bad,
Speaker 1: illogical conclusions to bet except fly Doug Wilson out. I'm
Speaker 1: not flying Doug Wilson in my house, dude. I don't
Speaker 1: really want to be anywhere near Doug Wilson except on
Speaker 1: the internet. Maybe I don't like Doug Wilson at all.
Speaker 1: I think he's I don't think he's a good person.
Speaker 1: Everyone's asking me about this Trump post. What's the Trump Post?
Speaker 8: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I've been doing this. All right, let's do this next,
Speaker 1: all right, let's move fast through.
Speaker 4: Redeem Kumer's argument here.
Speaker 1: Protestant culture. I mean, these arguments are terrible. What does
Speaker 1: any of this have to do with proving whether Orthodox
Speaker 1: is true or false? Protestant culture? I mean, by this
Speaker 1: line of argument. I could argue that Protestantism produced atheism,
Speaker 1: and atheism has destroyed the West. This is so dumb, Cleve.
Speaker 1: Did you want to say something? I saw you for
Speaker 1: a second and you fell out, Cleve, you want to
Speaker 1: come back?
Speaker 3: When?
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 11: Hey?
Speaker 21: Jay, I kind of wanted to like go back to
Speaker 21: like geopolitics stuff. Okay, I think I mostly agree with you,
Speaker 21: but like I keep encountering people that are, like, I
Speaker 21: think they're really kind of coping to a certain extent
Speaker 21: with like the stuff that Trump has done. And I
Speaker 21: heard some people doing that a little bit earlier, and
Speaker 21: like I hear people like I think the cope they're
Speaker 21: trying to come up with is like, oh, this is
Speaker 21: like geopolitical positioning for China and stuff.
Speaker 10: Is the thing that I've encountered.
Speaker 4: And yeah, that's what Andrew was arguing.
Speaker 21: Yeah, that's that's the argument that they like make for
Speaker 21: like it's all global positioning for that. But it's really
Speaker 21: like stupid in my opic to make that argument, because
Speaker 21: if you look at the domestic political consequences from like
Speaker 21: the stuff, and I know this is politics, which is
Speaker 21: like a lower tier, then we're and stuff and philosophy,
Speaker 21: but that's like what the arguments are on. It's stupid
Speaker 21: because the domestic consequences for these actions are going to
Speaker 21: be that, like the Democrats are going to like.
Speaker 3: Completely take over the whole country.
Speaker 21: So it's like, Okay, congratulations, like you've defeated Iran and
Speaker 21: not even if they're going to do that, but like
Speaker 21: let's say you get everything that you think you're going
Speaker 21: to get outside of the country domestically, like you've lost
Speaker 21: everything domestically, Like those are going to be the consequences,
Speaker 21: Like do you, like I try to get people like
Speaker 21: recognize that that what's going to happen is like the
Speaker 21: entire coalition politically or whatever is completely busted that like
Speaker 21: they built over ten years and the betrayal is going
Speaker 21: to lead to like.
Speaker 3: Large scale leftist control of the country.
Speaker 21: It will break down to like domestic conflict. Like I
Speaker 21: try to explain this to people, and I I think
Speaker 21: I freaked them out a little bit because they think
Speaker 21: they like everything they say.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, but what about this, And they just
Speaker 3: don't have a response.
Speaker 21: And that's the thing I would just point back towards
Speaker 21: people that like bring that up is just bring up
Speaker 21: the domestic stuff like okay, but none of the domestic
Speaker 21: stuff is happening.
Speaker 3: That's what he was elected on and he won't be
Speaker 3: able to.
Speaker 21: Carry any of it out because he used all his
Speaker 21: political will to do foreign.
Speaker 3: Entanglement nonsense that he ran against for a decade.
Speaker 21: And then people don't have a response, They don't have
Speaker 21: a good response to.
Speaker 3: Any of that.
Speaker 21: They just say, no, no, I think this is all
Speaker 21: about the petro dollar, which doesn't even exist. It's a
Speaker 21: euro dollar system, stupid, and they'll but they don't know that,
Speaker 21: they don't even know what the petro dollar is. And
Speaker 21: then they'll say like they just have like no response
Speaker 21: to that. But I try to point that out to
Speaker 21: people in I'm not even trying to be mean. I'm
Speaker 21: trying to like do it gently because I kind of
Speaker 21: like the people I talked.
Speaker 18: To about it.
Speaker 1: That shit, I'm trying to be mean, dude, I'm over
Speaker 1: trying to be mean. I'm just joking because people say that,
Speaker 1: but that false reputation. But and you have a false reputation.
Speaker 1: Your mom has a false reputation. See Im'm being mean now.
Speaker 3: My mom is kind of mean though, that's true, But.
Speaker 21: The the people that make these arguments for the foreign stuff,
Speaker 21: they're just stupid, like it's your None of that stuff
Speaker 21: matters to the people that elected Trump, and none of
Speaker 21: that's gonna matter in like five years when whatever president
Speaker 21: or whoever is in power, that's going to be like, dude,
Speaker 21: these people don't want regular.
Speaker 3: People to own cars.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that. That's a great point
Speaker 1: on it. But look what this tells us is that
Speaker 1: Big mic is who we should have gone with. They
Speaker 1: should have put Big Mike in and we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: none of these problems because she has the strength of
Speaker 1: a thousand horses to deal with these issues. Shahe's strength
Speaker 1: could have dealt with these issues. By the way, I forgot.
Speaker 1: Alex Soren also had Michael gardon on who wrote a
Speaker 1: recent book on iconography in the first three centuries. So
Speaker 1: here is that livestream with Alex and Michael Garton. I
Speaker 1: used to interact with Michael back in the day on Facebook,
Speaker 1: long time ago before as orthodox. So there is their
Speaker 1: long stream refuting the idea because Michael has a book
Speaker 1: on iconography again in the first few centuries. So here
Speaker 1: is Cleve and Michael glitching out, and there is their
Speaker 1: long refutation. Here is my short twenty minute refutation.
Speaker 4: Again, Cleave, what's up, dog? I was going to go
Speaker 4: to this Trump post.
Speaker 8: That's what I was going.
Speaker 1: Clear, Ory there leon the Eucharist as a sacrifice, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I was gonna.
Speaker 3: Say, yeah, I DMG that Trump post.
Speaker 22: Basically, he uh, I'm trying to pull it up here
Speaker 22: made himself a picture of like himself as Jesus, and
Speaker 22: then he was attacking Pope Leo.
Speaker 8: I guess on X.
Speaker 1: Dude, what the hell is going on?
Speaker 4: Take your DM I'm pulling it up. I'm just I'm like,
Speaker 4: that just sounds insane. Let's see, let me pull it
Speaker 4: up here.
Speaker 22: Wow, he's like healing a guy in the hospital bed
Speaker 22: surrounded by like angels.
Speaker 1: And Okay, this is funny because we actually make fun
Speaker 1: of these Boomer memes all the time where Trump is
Speaker 1: like Jesus, and then Trump actually has tweeted the boomer
Speaker 1: Trump memes.
Speaker 4: This is crazy.
Speaker 1: Artie says Trump posted he is Jesus with warplanes healing
Speaker 1: another Boomer in the hospital, and then it says Trump
Speaker 1: turns on terrible Pope. Well, I agree that the popes
Speaker 1: are terrible popes, but not for the reasons that that
Speaker 1: Donald says.
Speaker 4: Here he says, uh, go ahead.
Speaker 22: I was gonna say it seems like it seems like
Speaker 22: he got upset at Leo because Leo recently came out
Speaker 22: and made a statement against the Iran war right, and
Speaker 22: so he's pushing.
Speaker 8: Back on that, not all the other stuff.
Speaker 3: It's like a smoking mirrors distraction exactly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and again like it's not going to be for
Speaker 1: the right reasons right like that. To me, that's funny
Speaker 1: if he trolls the Pope, but not over an issue
Speaker 1: where Leo happens to be correct.
Speaker 4: I like his brother much better.
Speaker 1: He was Maga doesn't want uh it wants Iran to
Speaker 1: have nuclear weapons. I mean, this is just retarded, dude.
Speaker 1: It's retarded on so many levels too, right, Because remember
Speaker 1: when I put that post up the other day about
Speaker 1: that Leo's actually contradicting the entire history of the papacy
Speaker 1: by saying that there's no such thing as just war.
Speaker 1: God doesn't hear those who wage war. And it's like
Speaker 1: your church has the theory of just war, dude, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about. The Papal States has gone to
Speaker 1: war many many times. The Pope's called crusades. Dude, what
Speaker 1: are you talking about? And then the Roman caltholuices are like,
Speaker 1: what you support is rule? Are you that stupid? I've
Speaker 1: done like forty podcasts against the war in Iran? What
Speaker 1: are you talking about? But I mean, we're talking about
Speaker 1: people who like everyone's a Muslim. Now everyone has become
Speaker 1: a Muslim, they're all Muslim. They cannot think in like
Speaker 1: second order reasoning, like if you, they don't. They can't
Speaker 1: do the breakfast question right, how would you feel if
Speaker 1: you hadn't had breakfast? You said, I don't go no breakfast.
Speaker 1: You said, I don't get to eat breakfast. AI says,
Speaker 1: for five dollars, I paid my dues. I'm squared away
Speaker 1: and I'm on the level. Hands up to Zoltan Zoltan Istahan,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Another dumb membro? Fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: It was good to see you visiting the ro Corps Bros.
Speaker 1: Christ has Risen, Hey, yeah, glad to see you as well.
Speaker 1: I did have to skip out early. I know you
Speaker 1: guys thought I was being rude, but I had to
Speaker 1: drive back three hours, and so I slipped out after
Speaker 1: the Pasca service because I had to drive three hours,
Speaker 1: and if I stayed and talked to all you guys,
Speaker 1: I would have been there until ten in the morning,
Speaker 1: so I couldn't stay and talk. I'm sure I'll see
Speaker 1: you guys in the future, though, I wanted to say
Speaker 1: that you helped guide me in Orthodoxy. I found you
Speaker 1: through the book reviews. Book reviews. What book review I
Speaker 1: found orthodoxy? Second?
Speaker 4: Oh you mean books that I covered on my channel?
Speaker 3: Interesting?
Speaker 1: Thank you man, Thank you appreciate that. Yeah, people come
Speaker 1: to orthodox through all kinds of different means, so that's good.
Speaker 1: Professional age two dollars. You should do a video with
Speaker 1: Rob nowhar Yeah, I'm down to.
Speaker 4: Chat with Rob.
Speaker 1: It would be an interesting dynamic between your world views.
Speaker 1: Many would find it entertaining. Yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: we mentioned that a long time ago, and I didn't
Speaker 1: know who Rob was, but yeah, he seems like a
Speaker 1: good guy. Thomas twenty dollars, big dog. I just checked
Speaker 1: in on your stream. Did you already pull up Trump
Speaker 1: and the Pope beefing? Yeah, we just covered it right now.
Speaker 1: Trump mentions that Leo is only there because of him.
Speaker 1: Well interesting if that's I mean, Trump's probably being you know, exaggerating,
Speaker 1: But this is also interesting given them what we covered there.
Speaker 1: What a couple of days ago, remember where Cardinal christoph
Speaker 1: was invited to the Pentagon and in January and they
Speaker 1: had this kerfluffle intimidation argument supposedly about Iran and that
Speaker 1: the papacy needs to back down because supposedly the Pentagon
Speaker 1: is running shit and they reference the Avignon papacy. It's like,
Speaker 1: this is so bizarre, right, I mean, maybe they're you
Speaker 1: are they using my arguments? I'm joking, but are they
Speaker 1: like using my arguments against Rome to like argue against
Speaker 1: the Leo. This is getting crazy, dude. And by the way,
Speaker 1: are we are live streaming on multiple outlets now, so
Speaker 1: hopefully this continues to work. Well, you can find me
Speaker 1: also on Grumble, You can find me on x as well.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys for these general supers. All right, let's
Speaker 1: get to the rest of Redeemed Zoomer's bad argumentation here
Speaker 1: Protestant culture. I'm gonna skip over that because we just
Speaker 1: covered that. Well, that's a good bad argument predestination appreciation.
Speaker 1: This is not an argument for his for your position
Speaker 1: if you understand christology, because this means that Christ is
Speaker 1: a predestined man and it messes up the Trinitarian crystological
Speaker 1: theology that the Fifth and Sixth Councils lay down, and
Speaker 1: so predestination ends up essentially meaning that the Son of
Speaker 1: God becomes destined in time and space.
Speaker 4: Well, how does a.
Speaker 1: Person of the Trinity become predestined? Right, So you end
Speaker 1: up with a Nestorian Christology. I mean this argument countless times,
Speaker 1: and I think the predestinarian argument against Christology is probably
Speaker 1: one of the strongest other overlooked arguments beyond PSA in
Speaker 1: the Damning of the Sun.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 1: The only problem with that argument is that it's very complex,
Speaker 1: and it gets into the Christology that the Calvinists have
Speaker 1: no idea about. So when you start trying to say
Speaker 1: that you have to have a property of will and
Speaker 1: energy to be to have a human nature, and if
Speaker 1: Christ has our human nation, then it is properly free
Speaker 1: human will and energy, Well, then predestination and money is
Speaker 1: not true. Now we have a subjective argument about the fruits,
Speaker 1: and he's arguing that Orthodoxy does not produce holier people.
Speaker 4: Okay, this, I mean, that's not even a serious argument.
Speaker 4: And then orientals exist.
Speaker 1: So Orthodoxy is not true because there's so because there's disagreement.
Speaker 1: So by that line of argument, if Protestantism has one
Speaker 1: thousand sacks or thirty thousand sacks disagreeing, Protestism isn't true.
Speaker 4: I mean, this is so stupid, dude.
Speaker 1: Because theirs schisms. How do you know which one's true? Again,
Speaker 1: this is an irrelevant line of argumentation in terms of
Speaker 1: what's true. That's like saying, if people disagree that tupless
Speaker 1: two equals four, then you don't know that tupless two
Speaker 1: is four.
Speaker 4: This is a fallacy. It's a stupid line of argument.
Speaker 1: This guy's just holiness is having a family and kids,
Speaker 1: it's in Orthodoxy. Thinks it's being on a monk on
Speaker 1: a mountain. Well, does he not realize that within the
Speaker 1: New Testament, Paul talks about the gift of celibacy and
Speaker 1: that it's a gift, and that Mary and Jesus were celibate,
Speaker 1: and that John the Baptist was an ascetic and that
Speaker 1: Elijah was an asthetic. So it's like he doesn't even
Speaker 1: know the biblical tradition is full of asceticism. And what's
Speaker 1: the tenth argument. I don't see the tenth argument. It
Speaker 1: goes from nine, so I don't know if you wanted
Speaker 1: a longer reputation.
Speaker 4: But that was all just really dumb. None of it
Speaker 4: was theological argumentation hardly.
Speaker 3: It's like moral cultural.
Speaker 1: The West is the best right. It's like Jim Morrison
Speaker 1: level argumentation, the West is a little bush. We got
Speaker 1: redeem Zoomer right here literally citing Jim Morrison as like
Speaker 1: his line of argument. Stephen Wolf ten dollars. I'm new
Speaker 1: to Orthodoxy thanks to you. I'm a former Protestant or
Speaker 1: former Freemason. I have questions about Dionysius. I'm looking for
Speaker 1: the best resources. I can't imagine early fathers accepting him
Speaker 1: as a Platonist.
Speaker 8: He's not.
Speaker 1: He's he's not.
Speaker 4: I mean, you could say he's influenced by some Plato ideas.
Speaker 1: But there's a great article at Ortho Christian on Dionysius,
Speaker 1: and it's written by even a Protestant. This was written
Speaker 1: by an Anglican and I think maybe translated by father
Speaker 1: of Stunnyloy and father Steanieloy is one of the great
Speaker 1: Orthodox saints of the last century, I mean theologians.
Speaker 4: He is a saint. Now I think he's a saint. No,
Speaker 4: so you can read that.
Speaker 1: Also, by the way, and I'm not a fan of
Speaker 1: Bishop Glitzen at all, but somebody posted my conversation with
Speaker 1: Bishop Glitzen from ten years ago when I met Pago
Speaker 1: Pagot was at this conference here, and this dude digs
Speaker 1: up and finds the craziest, random old shit that I've
Speaker 1: forgotten about, and he posted on my discussion with Bishop
Speaker 1: Alexander on Dionysius. Now, I'm not a fan of Bishop Alexander,
Speaker 1: but he is an authority academically speaking on Dionysius. Now,
Speaker 1: he doesn't accept Dynasyan authorship, so we're not going to
Speaker 1: go into that, but he does trace the influence of
Speaker 1: Dionysius not just from Platonic ideas, but also to the
Speaker 1: Mercaba and the theology of the chariot in Ezekiel. I'm
Speaker 1: not talking about Cabalism. I'm talking about what Cabbalism is
Speaker 1: partly based upon. Right, Cabalism pulls from a lot of
Speaker 1: different sources, so we'll get low tier retards quotingism.
Speaker 4: No, I'm saying that.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of different sources that influence later Cabbalists,
Speaker 1: and one of those is their interpretation of the passages
Speaker 1: in Ezekiel about the chariot. This is chapters one, two,
Speaker 1: and ten, and of course in our theology, that is
Speaker 1: the logos and the chariot that he rides.
Speaker 4: Okay, the living creatures.
Speaker 1: Are chariot in that in that passage, so he traces
Speaker 1: the Dionysian celestial hierarchy influences also to that, and in
Speaker 1: that regard he is relevant for your question. I am
Speaker 1: not promoting anything else. However, From Bishop Glidson, another dumb
Speaker 1: membro of fifty dollars, I also heard somebody say that
Speaker 1: you left last night early. I didn't leave the liturgy early.
Speaker 1: I left right after communion because I had to drive
Speaker 1: three hours. I understand. I guarantee you others get it.
Speaker 1: The last thing anyone wants to hear is, hey, bro,
Speaker 1: I got a question. One guy was trying to ask
Speaker 1: me tag questions when I went out to the car
Speaker 1: to drink drink some water.
Speaker 4: I thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: I'm not dissing that guy, so don't get your feelings hurt.
Speaker 4: I'm not dissing. I just thought it was funny that, like.
Speaker 1: If I go to the liturgy and I try to
Speaker 1: slip out, people start asking me tag questions. I just
Speaker 1: thought that was funny, but I was like, Bro, just
Speaker 1: ask me some other times another. I mean, Bro, ten dollars,
Speaker 1: I don't want to bother you. I'm glad to celebrate Pasca. Uh,
Speaker 1: It's okay. I mean understand, people you know, want to
Speaker 1: ask questions and whatnot. I'm not mad at you guys
Speaker 1: or fussing at you guys.
Speaker 17: It's just Uh.
Speaker 1: If I stayed and chatted, I would have been there forever.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure we're going to be back. Uh, and
Speaker 1: then we can have you know, all the Q and
Speaker 1: A you guys want the next time I come back.
Speaker 4: But I can't.
Speaker 1: I mean, I was seeing things because it was driving.
Speaker 1: It's five in the morning, dude, Steven Wog ten dollars.
Speaker 1: I'm new to orthodoxy. I'm also former freemason. No, you're
Speaker 1: the guy that asked the Dynastia's.
Speaker 4: Question, Myron, Chuck, what's up?
Speaker 8: Dog?
Speaker 1: Go ahead?
Speaker 10: My man?
Speaker 4: Man, it's hot in here. I'm mute Jason.
Speaker 18: A long time.
Speaker 1: In Uh.
Speaker 8: I think there's a synergy here, especially from what I'm hearing,
Speaker 8: you know, even with the redeem Zemers and that lot
Speaker 8: the I see years here.
Speaker 1: So can you can you speak up? It's hard to
Speaker 1: hear it to you politics, It's hard to hear what
Speaker 1: you're saying, Jason, can you speak up a little bit?
Speaker 8: Sorry?
Speaker 11: Is that?
Speaker 18: Is that better?
Speaker 8: I mean, hopefully. I don't know which mic this.
Speaker 4: Thing's got beyond it's a bad mic, but go ahead
Speaker 4: serve with that.
Speaker 23: I think there's a synergy between like the Protestant space and.
Speaker 8: And the geopolitics space, because when I keep hearing and
Speaker 8: you know, when I had Kim jatrass On, we did
Speaker 8: a full year of talking about.
Speaker 23: Talking about Rogia Ukraine, and one of the big things
Speaker 23: that comes they came away with that is that geopolitics
Speaker 23: is is a dish festter cold.
Speaker 5: Like you can't trying to do, you know, trying to
Speaker 5: do mention.
Speaker 23: Mid analysis right now in twenty twenty six is almost impossible.
Speaker 18: Everything is changing, and they just lie uh and and
Speaker 18: uh and re change their position on the fly, like
Speaker 18: I watched them do it with Russia Ukraine, and I
Speaker 18: think they're doing the same thing with Iran, uh, everybody else.
Speaker 3: So the.
Speaker 10: The long and short of it is that most people shouldn't.
Speaker 8: Be involved in it, like especially if I think if.
Speaker 23: For for Orthodox people, if if it's making you as
Speaker 23: your brother or turning issue brother or turns turns.
Speaker 8: And works to spare.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 3: That's usually your queue to get to get to to touch,
Speaker 3: grasping back away from it.
Speaker 8: Like stop listening to it.
Speaker 11: Uh.
Speaker 8: It's the same thing with the ft all the rest
Speaker 8: of it as well.
Speaker 3: I think.
Speaker 8: So, I guess the open question for.
Speaker 23: You is is balancing balancing faith with geopolitics, especially analysis
Speaker 23: and and and what you what you think that is
Speaker 23: the best.
Speaker 8: Best remedy for that?
Speaker 1: Well, brother, the way to do it is to become
Speaker 1: a member of the lodge and then we're all the brothers.
Speaker 4: I'm joking. Yeah, I mean it's not for everybody.
Speaker 1: It's not, you know, something that you have to take
Speaker 1: upon yourself to be, you know, interested in or involved
Speaker 1: in these things. I guess it's if you know, but
Speaker 1: God made us all with different proclivities and interests and
Speaker 1: people that are interested in der politics. You know, you
Speaker 1: need people like John Kiryaku who's there, who's Orthodox. He's
Speaker 1: you know, in in the intelligence establishment and eventually becomes
Speaker 1: a whistleblower. So it's great to have voices like him,
Speaker 1: you know, it's great to have voices like Jim Jatras.
Speaker 1: You know, he's he reminds me in many ways of Kuriaku,
Speaker 1: very similar kinds of.
Speaker 4: Takes and calls outs.
Speaker 1: But you know, not necessarily every catechumen or convert or
Speaker 1: young dude has to be involved in these things. And
Speaker 1: I think it's really just a matter of keeping priority straight.
Speaker 1: You know, if if we're putting politics first in the
Speaker 1: sense of uh, you know, getting on here and getting
Speaker 1: angry at people. I'm not calling on Andrew. I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like h Brosey was saying, like if people different political
Speaker 1: takes is becoming a stumbling block, well then you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it is a good time to take a break,
Speaker 1: and you know, not let that get you angry. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think for me, uh, you know, I can have
Speaker 1: an exchange where I disagree with Andrew Meyer and we
Speaker 1: can just we can debate it and be even still
Speaker 1: be friendly. And I would imagine anybody else that because
Speaker 1: I just don't view politics as it's not my main thing, right,
Speaker 1: and even Andrew is pretty good at even though politics
Speaker 1: is his main thing, it doesn't he he doesn't take
Speaker 1: it on and then like get furious at everybody. Right,
Speaker 1: he can have a debate with Owen Schroyer and they
Speaker 1: can disagree and still be friendly. So I think, ah,
Speaker 1: we would do well to not let politics be an
Speaker 1: issue where we are furious and angry at people as
Speaker 1: hard as hard as it is. Now I can hear you, now,
Speaker 1: I can hear you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, much better, go ahead.
Speaker 14: Good.
Speaker 24: I just caught a clip of you talking with Harris
Speaker 24: and you you started off the clip talking about essentially
Speaker 24: it is.
Speaker 8: A spiritual war. I know. I think you and I
Speaker 8: are on the same side, uh, on the Christian.
Speaker 24: Nationalism kind of topic where it's it's a nice idea,
Speaker 24: but which Christianity are we talking about here? And we
Speaker 24: need to get also, get to fundamentals before we even
Speaker 24: talk talking about nationalism or anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I mean, Pete Heg said, just had Doug
Speaker 1: Wilson saying we're going to ban Orthodox Catholic stuff in
Speaker 1: our Christian nationalist state.
Speaker 4: Well, that proves my point.
Speaker 24: Right, Which Christianity are we talking about here?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 24: And anything that shines any kind of true light on
Speaker 24: any on any of these things is going to be
Speaker 24: athema to.
Speaker 8: These fine folks.
Speaker 24: So the but to get back to the fundamentals is
Speaker 24: like the one thing we start to change is not
Speaker 24: just ourselves.
Speaker 8: We repent for ourselves, but we start working u the
Speaker 8: outreach to be on a community level.
Speaker 24: It's building blocks rather than trying to think of the
Speaker 24: of the final building.
Speaker 8: Right, we're at foundation level stuff.
Speaker 24: I keep saying to people, it's best to think of
Speaker 24: we don't live in a civilization anymore. That doesn't mean
Speaker 24: we can't again, it just means that we don't have
Speaker 24: that right now. Right, we have all the moon, we
Speaker 24: have the buildings, the nice stuff, we have the tech,
Speaker 24: but we don't have the actual building blocks, the foundation
Speaker 24: of civilization.
Speaker 8: And so we need to rebuild that first.
Speaker 24: And as we build that, then we can maybe you know,
Speaker 24: generationally speaking, maybe my great great grandkids can start talking.
Speaker 4: About civiliz Yeah, we need to think long term exactly right.
Speaker 10: Good, Okay, remember I am back in contents.
Speaker 24: Basically my blessings restored, so I will be reaching out
Speaker 24: and God bless you.
Speaker 8: For all you do, my friend.
Speaker 1: Thank you Jason. Yeah, I appreciate you calling in great comments. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think we just have to not make politics and idol.
Speaker 1: And you know I didn't check out of politics, but
Speaker 1: I didn't I don't care as much about politics nowadays
Speaker 1: as I did when I was you know, in my
Speaker 1: twenties or when I was falling wrong Paul or whatever,
Speaker 1: and I can for me, I can like enter and
Speaker 1: exit the political space and it doesn't bother me because
Speaker 1: I'm not people get so hyped up and treat politics
Speaker 1: as a religion, and then when people disagree I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: I'm not calling on a shprosey. I'm just giving a
Speaker 1: general statement here, like when people disagree, then it's like
Speaker 1: I can't believe or political take well, Like for me,
Speaker 1: politics is way downstream from the other things, and most
Speaker 1: people don't see it that way. I understand most for
Speaker 1: most Americans, politics is a religion and they don't see
Speaker 1: things as downstream from it. And since I do, I'm
Speaker 1: not really bothered by any of these goobers or people
Speaker 1: that are out here who have different different positions. I'm
Speaker 1: speaking in general of all the sphere. Like you know,
Speaker 1: when I see Andrew Tate's posts, when I see Pearls posts,
Speaker 1: when I see who like none of these posts, they
Speaker 1: don't bother me. Like I'm not worried about it. I'm
Speaker 1: not triggered. I do get triggered when I see like
Speaker 1: Trent Horne or somebody like that that triggers me. But
Speaker 1: like a political shit I don't care about. I mean,
Speaker 1: I'll comment on it, make fun of it or whatever,
Speaker 1: but just people get so triggered by everyone in every sphere,
Speaker 1: and to me, I'm just like, who cares? Like, who
Speaker 1: cares about what rendo people are saying on Twitter? It's
Speaker 1: just it's weird. Mark, do you want to say something?
Speaker 1: I know you've been waiting a while, Hey, Jay Yop, I.
Speaker 3: I just wanted to say, like, I went to my
Speaker 3: phone orthodox service last Palm.
Speaker 25: Sunday, and I just want to commend you and the
Speaker 25: Wilson's and Cleve and Alex and all those folks on.
Speaker 3: What you're doing.
Speaker 25: It's it's it was amazing good. I didn't go to
Speaker 25: Pasca or anything because I'm just you know, I'm inquiring
Speaker 25: and that's that's a.
Speaker 8: Big step for a guy.
Speaker 1: Well, POSCO would have been pretty intense if it was
Speaker 1: your first one.
Speaker 4: Like I was just I was thinking that last night.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, imagine if this was
Speaker 1: your first service.
Speaker 8: Like I didn't even leave the narthex.
Speaker 3: I didn't go into the tabernacle or anything.
Speaker 8: I like I just I had to stay.
Speaker 3: There because it was it was a lot. But you know,
Speaker 3: as a guy they grew up.
Speaker 10: I'm in Texas, I.
Speaker 25: Grew up in the Church of Christ, you know, the
Speaker 25: Barton Stone Stone Campbell movement.
Speaker 3: And but it's it's so encouraging.
Speaker 1: What you guys are doing.
Speaker 8: And yeah, I don't even know what to say, but
Speaker 8: I just.
Speaker 25: Wanted to commend you on, you know, the content you're
Speaker 25: putting out there, of the education, uh.
Speaker 3: That all of us are getting.
Speaker 1: Man, I appreciate that, Appreciate the kind words. You know,
Speaker 1: we still get a lot of haters, a lot of opposition,
Speaker 1: a lot of creeps and weirdos every day. So I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. You guys saw the guy the other day
Speaker 1: saying he was going to come unlive me on discords.
Speaker 1: So it's nice to have, you know, people speaking up
Speaker 1: and being positive. Appreciate that. Uh, let's see, we got
Speaker 1: swinters two dollars. What do you think about Roman Catholicism's
Speaker 1: tragedy of merits doctrine. I actually think it's an overlooked
Speaker 1: argument refuting Rome.
Speaker 4: It's so preposterous.
Speaker 1: The whole idea totally ampathetical to anything in the first
Speaker 1: thousand years of Christianity. It's utterly props astros and it
Speaker 1: should be utilized more to a review refute Rome Kevin
Speaker 1: Ruse two dollars you missed my super chat. I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get through them.
Speaker 4: Man, there's a lot.
Speaker 1: Let's see Perez became a member. Will you do another
Speaker 1: regime zoom Er debate? I know he wanted to debate,
Speaker 1: do a debate with Nick flintes with Corey Feldman as
Speaker 1: a mediator. That sounds awesome, but I think you know,
Speaker 1: Nick made it clear he's not interested in any theological debates.
Speaker 1: And the only reason that ker fluff will happen was
Speaker 1: because somebody asked me if I would debate him again.
Speaker 1: I said yeah, and then people clipped that and all
Speaker 1: he's trying to go after Nick. I just said I
Speaker 1: would because I don't typically turn down debates unless it's
Speaker 1: like an insane person or something like that, or or
Speaker 1: somebody that I've already debated a whole bunch like Daniel Hooke.
Speaker 1: Getch you I think you wanted to do another debate,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, come on, due, We've already
Speaker 1: on the same debate twice.
Speaker 4: And then there was a.
Speaker 3: Or No.
Speaker 4: Maybe I only debated Daniel once. I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I would like to debate another one of the Muslims
Speaker 1: I haven't debated, uh, Muhammed a Job or Ali Dawa.
Speaker 1: I guess there's only two that are left. Somebody said
Speaker 1: debate Adam Green. I mean, come on, man, that guy's
Speaker 1: just it's the same load tier stuff. You already debated Gem,
Speaker 1: you already debated Hotel, you already debated Andrew. It's just
Speaker 1: going to be the same stuff all over again. Debrate,
Speaker 1: debate Frank Truck with Candas as a moderator. Okay, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: I'll debate Frank Truck. Yeah, but I mean I don't
Speaker 1: think of these people want to do a debate little
Speaker 1: Natty for two dollars. Do you have any videos about
Speaker 1: Gog and may Dog?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I don't have any videos on that. Maybe allergy is
Speaker 1: going crazy right now, dude, I'm looking for your super chat,
Speaker 1: uh Keevan, I did read one here super chats. Maybe
Speaker 1: you missed it. Oh, let's see. I don't see another
Speaker 1: super chat that I missed from you. And we even
Speaker 1: got to Builderberg Myrin, Chuck, did you want to say
Speaker 1: something else? I'm mute.
Speaker 8: Are you there?
Speaker 1: Michael says, for ten dollars, what is the point of
Speaker 1: the Tree of Knowledge and what was the original purpose
Speaker 1: about him and Eve?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 1: The original purpose wasn't for them to achieve diosis by
Speaker 1: being virtuous and learning virtue. And had they learned virtue,
Speaker 1: then they could have eaten the tree of knowledge and
Speaker 1: they would have been able to hand that level of
Speaker 1: you know that they would have been able to handle
Speaker 1: the knowledge because they've been secured in virtue. That's the
Speaker 1: uster from Father teaching. Because of course God doesn't create
Speaker 1: anything evil in itself, so that that tree was not
Speaker 1: in itself evil, But they needed to be established in
Speaker 1: virtue before they would have could have had could have
Speaker 1: had access to that. But because they didn't get established
Speaker 1: in virtue, they were not prepared for that and thus
Speaker 1: it led to the fall. So great question, though, Let's see,
Speaker 1: here's a question about Rob. Nowher it says Rob Brennan's
Speaker 1: Brennan bell toon dollars.
Speaker 4: Rob is a good guy.
Speaker 1: He's supposed to be debating a Nigerian scammer who took
Speaker 1: his account on Wednesday? Are you joking to being serious?
Speaker 1: That sounds hilarious and for Chief eight quadd Old Dingle
Speaker 1: with John Pork as moderator. Okay, I don't know what
Speaker 1: that is, but yes, sure, I'm looking for your other
Speaker 1: super check Kievan Rus. And by the way, David David
Speaker 1: JD one two three, why are you not calling in?
Speaker 8: Dude?
Speaker 1: You're you're the one that's in here talking so much smack.
Speaker 4: I want you to come on and.
Speaker 1: Debate, collab with Alex on power metal and have a
Speaker 1: rap nineties wrap section. Perez says for five dollars. Okay, dude,
Speaker 1: Kievan Rus, I'm not seeing it, man, I'm scrolling. Oh
Speaker 1: here it is, no I read this one. You said
Speaker 1: for five dollars to add to the petro dollar argument.
Speaker 1: It's a neuter and anim me at any time the
Speaker 1: adversars are building their militaries to solidify US dominance. I
Speaker 1: responded to that.
Speaker 4: Terry, ten dollars.
Speaker 1: Did you know that Baptists argue for disestablishmentarianism and religious liberty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of course, I've made this argument many times. This is
Speaker 1: the heritage of the Radical Reformation. You guys don't listen
Speaker 1: like you. Guys that asked me these questions, not you,
Speaker 1: but the guy that was the David guy saying that
Speaker 1: I think that the Founding Fathers fail because they weren't Orthodox. Well, actually, yeah,
Speaker 1: like anybody who isn't Orthodox is ultimately going to fail
Speaker 1: in this sense of like creating the type of civilization
Speaker 1: that God wants. But that doesn't mean that it's all
Speaker 1: or nothing, Like they didn't still do some good things.
Speaker 1: It's just super low tier stuff. All right, Let's listen
Speaker 1: to a little bit of what Dan Dix has said
Speaker 1: about Builderberg, because this ties perfectly into what we were
Speaker 1: talking about tonight with Kissinger and sort of creating the
Speaker 1: petro dollar reliance which allows for the excuse of foreign
Speaker 1: intervention everywhere.
Speaker 16: Then, while the rest of the world is distracted by
Speaker 16: Brett and Circus headlines, the real power brokers, the ones
Speaker 16: who actually run the show, are once again locking themselves
Speaker 16: away behind closed doors, behind armed guards, and behind a
Speaker 16: total media blackout.
Speaker 26: For the twenty twenty six Builderberg conference.
Speaker 16: There is virtually no press coverage other than those of
Speaker 16: us who are here with our boots on the ground
Speaker 16: doing this reporting. There's no public minutes, and there's no accountability.
Speaker 16: Just billionaires, banksters and politicians, tech overlords and media gatekeepers
Speaker 16: who are deciding the direction of the world while the
Speaker 16: rest of us are all told it's just a private chat.
Speaker 26: This time, they are in Washington.
Speaker 16: DC, and they've got some serious security, an army of police,
Speaker 16: and a guest list that reads like a who's who
Speaker 16: of everyone who hates your freedoms.
Speaker 26: So in this video, I'm gonna spell it all out
Speaker 26: for you.
Speaker 16: I'm gonna cover the official agenda of this year's meeting,
Speaker 16: and I'm gonna list some of the notable names who
Speaker 16: are in attendance, because once you see the connections, you
Speaker 16: won't be able to unsee them. But just before I do,
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Speaker 16: First of all, the Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney
Speaker 16: and the Minister of Finance Francois Felippe Champagne. We're on
Speaker 16: the leaked list, but that looks like it has since
Speaker 16: been revised. It seems that Mark Carney getting a majority
Speaker 16: government in Canada has taken precedence over Bildeberg just because
Speaker 16: they're not on the official list, that doesn't mean that
Speaker 16: they might.
Speaker 26: Not show up.
Speaker 16: And this is why I'm here to find those key discrepancies,
Speaker 16: as I've done in previous years. So that means the
Speaker 16: only notable Canadian at this year's meeting is none other
Speaker 16: than Christia Freeland, the former Deputy Prime Minister and former
Speaker 16: Minister of Transport and Internal.
Speaker 1: So again this demonstrates the strata of power of the
Speaker 1: corporate banking elite that are above the political class, and
Speaker 1: they have a tremendous amount of influence and power sort
Speaker 1: of handing down the agenda to people at CFR, people
Speaker 1: at Trilateral and those are the people then that influence
Speaker 1: and tell politicians what to do. So that's the supra
Speaker 1: international elite that are above the political class that again
Speaker 1: will tell people like Karney and others what to do.
Speaker 1: I mean Mark Carney was in Builderberg previously and then
Speaker 1: he's going to you know then Ohal Office in Canada.
Speaker 1: And we see this pretty consistently going back many many decades.
Speaker 1: And if you don't know about this, I would say
Speaker 1: begin with Daniel Esslin's classic book, The Story of the
Speaker 1: Bilderberg Group, which was one of my early conspiracy texts.
Speaker 4: This came out in two thousand and seven. It's by
Speaker 4: my publisher, Trying Day.
Speaker 1: It is a classic. I've done probably four or five
Speaker 1: podcasts over the years with Daniel Esslin. Really intelligent person,
Speaker 1: very good analyst. He understands the big picture who the
Speaker 1: real power elite are, kind of like Patrick Kennington type
Speaker 1: of guy.
Speaker 4: Don't agree with everything that Patrick says.
Speaker 1: I don't agree with everything that Daniel Esselin says, but
Speaker 1: I can learn from people that I disagree with, and
Speaker 1: I think that's a key thing to take away as
Speaker 1: well when it comes to like the political discourse. Even
Speaker 1: when you hear people you disagree with, listen to their arguments,
Speaker 1: hear out what they're saying. It's only going to make
Speaker 1: you a better debater to actually hear and process and
Speaker 1: understand even the opponents and people that you don't like.
Speaker 1: So even if you don't like somebody, you have to
Speaker 1: force yourself to steal man their position and that will
Speaker 1: make you a better debater.
Speaker 4: Kevin rus five dollars.
Speaker 1: I was it was spot. It was about Epstein, No worries.
Speaker 1: Blessed Paska, Thank you.
Speaker 8: For what you do.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll scroll back I saw your Military Industrial Complex tweet.
Speaker 1: I did our uh super chat. I didn't see one
Speaker 1: about Epstein. Let me see, where's that David J.
Speaker 8: Guy.
Speaker 1: He needs to call in and he's talking smack. I
Speaker 1: can't stand when people talk smack in the chat and
Speaker 1: they won't call in a debate.
Speaker 4: Drives me crazy.
Speaker 1: Okay, I see you're super chat about m I see, okay,
Speaker 1: here it is Kevin Ruth's five dollars. That dude was dumb.
Speaker 1: But Epstein was banned, informed on, and arrested, ordered and
Speaker 1: released by and under Trump. I know that.
Speaker 4: I've argued that.
Speaker 1: Remember when people were attacking me because I said Trump
Speaker 1: went to the FBI and was talking to them about Epstein.
Speaker 4: I know that, like I said that, But what I'm
Speaker 4: saying is.
Speaker 1: It's under Trump and his administration with Bondie and Patel
Speaker 1: and these people, that we got all of this tomfoolery
Speaker 1: and bumblery and bullshit. And it's that Justice Department that
Speaker 1: redacted the perpetrators and all of these horendous people in
Speaker 1: all these insane level emails. And so that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: That's what I was arguing to the idiot. Freemason guy,
Speaker 1: Alex Orthodox five dollars. The next time you debate the
Speaker 1: black Keeper Israeli guy, will you correct him on the
Speaker 1: ass x Ax distinction. Yeah, a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: know that. For Orthodox, they haves it's an inter distinction.
Speaker 1: But for the black Keeper Israelites, they have a real
Speaker 1: problem with the ask Ax distinction. They cannot keep getting
Speaker 1: away with it. Christis Risen Indidias. Thank you, Alex Nifts
Speaker 1: ten dollars. Is the Boulet Society relevant at all? I mean,
Speaker 1: I think it's relevant. We've actually talked about that with
Speaker 1: when I was on Sam Hide's PGL right, perfect guy Life.
Speaker 1: Me and Nick talks extensively in the same as well
Speaker 1: about Black secret societies. I think they play a key
Speaker 1: role in influencing and steering the black networks. You know,
Speaker 1: prominent Black people they have their own, you know, secret
Speaker 1: societies and networks that are kind of quasi Masonic with
Speaker 1: things like that. I don't know to what degree they
Speaker 1: have influence over you know, Kanye or not Kanye, Lebron
Speaker 1: James and people that are you know, allegedly in the
Speaker 1: Bulat society, But I would imagine that it's just you know,
Speaker 1: the way the system works. For example, if you think
Speaker 1: about Builderberg, a lot of the people that go to
Speaker 1: Builderberg are also members of the CFR, and those people
Speaker 1: are also members of the Trilateral Commission, so they're all
Speaker 1: kind of in the same steering groups and committees. And
Speaker 1: you know, people at the level of Brazinski or Kissinger
Speaker 1: or Rockefeller or now we realize Epstein. You know, they
Speaker 1: can be members of all these different things, and they
Speaker 1: can kind of interact with people in other societies and networks,
Speaker 1: and that's how the power structure works. You guys may
Speaker 1: remember this classic infographic which if you go to info Wars,
Speaker 1: if you're in the studios, I'm saying, Alex has this giant,
Speaker 1: massive wall sized poster.
Speaker 8: H h.
Speaker 1: And uh this infographic is just looking at media people
Speaker 1: and this is a few years old. But oh, come on,
Speaker 1: now it's not gonna come up. It used to come up,
Speaker 1: but I guess Google is blocking that image. Now let
Speaker 1: me try. Uh, so if I can pull it up
Speaker 1: over here on something else, h.
Speaker 8: Here it is.
Speaker 1: I found it. So you have to go to like
Speaker 1: Russian search engines to make this come up. So it's
Speaker 1: still not a high high def image, but you can.
Speaker 1: You can, if you search around, you can find the
Speaker 1: real high deaf image. But basically it's just showing you
Speaker 1: that the same people in media that are in the
Speaker 1: CFR also go to Charlateral and they also attend Builderberg.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 1: And it's all the heads of every mainstream outlet, right,
Speaker 1: So you've got everybody from Facebook to Disney to Washington Post, Fox, right,
Speaker 1: all the media heads are all at the same events
Speaker 1: and meetings. So again like easy reference right here, proving
Speaker 1: that the Western power elite and power structure for many
Speaker 1: years met under semi secrecy at the Bilderberg meetings, which
Speaker 1: is happening right now in DC. And this is just media, right,
Speaker 1: So the same image could be made of corporate heads
Speaker 1: of other industries tech and Builderberg has taken on a
Speaker 1: much more tech centered focus in the last say ten years.
Speaker 1: Because I was writing articles about Builderberg ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I reshared that as well right here, So, oh crap,
Speaker 1: the links are dead. Dang it, Well, my mistake, but
Speaker 1: I did write articles. They're in my red book. You
Speaker 1: want to get the red book. So, and then let's
Speaker 1: go back to let's go back to the rest of
Speaker 1: that clip here, we'll be done with us very.
Speaker 16: Soon, identical to the recent COVID playbook Lock it Down,
Speaker 16: ration it, control it, and call it saving the planet.
Speaker 26: Sound familiar.
Speaker 16: Next, we've got Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director of the IMF,
Speaker 16: the queen of debt traps, is here to make sure
Speaker 16: that every country on Earth gets properly chained to the
Speaker 16: same digital slavery system that they're rolling out. She spent
Speaker 16: years trapping developing nations in debt slavery, and now she
Speaker 16: wants the same model for the West through climate finance
Speaker 16: and digital currencies. And then comes the tech overlords who
Speaker 16: are actually building the digital prison.
Speaker 26: Alex Karp, CEO of Palanteer.
Speaker 16: Technologies, the company whose AI is already helping governments spy on, predict,
Speaker 16: and punish their own citizens.
Speaker 26: In real time. Nothing creepy about that at all.
Speaker 16: His company Valeer knows more about you than you do,
Speaker 16: and we can't speak about Palenteer without mentioning his co founder,
Speaker 16: Peter teel I confronted him at last year's meeting not
Speaker 16: only about the big brother surveillance system that he's helping
Speaker 16: us set up, but also about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 16: If you haven't seen that, I'll put a link to
Speaker 16: that clip in the description below. And rounding this out,
Speaker 16: we have the media mouthpieces, the ones who will make
Speaker 16: sure you never hear the wrong version of events and
Speaker 16: Apple Bomb of the Atlantic.
Speaker 26: John Mickelthwaite, editor in chief of Bloom.
Speaker 4: The Atlantic is.
Speaker 1: Rick was very close to and defending Epstein as well.
Speaker 1: So this is another big establishment outlet, just of CIA mouthpiece.
Speaker 16: Lumberg and Zanny Minton Bedos, editor in chief of the Economists,
Speaker 16: to name a few.
Speaker 1: These are The Economist is a Rothschild publication on record.
Speaker 16: Are the gatekeepers who will spin whatever comes out of
Speaker 16: this meeting into the official narrative that you're supposed to
Speaker 16: swallow without question.
Speaker 26: Oh yeah, and for.
Speaker 16: Good measure, the King and Queen of the Netherlands are
Speaker 16: apparently making an appearance as well, because nothing says we're
Speaker 16: all in this together, like actual royalty rubbing shoulders with
Speaker 16: the people who run the central banks, the armies, the
Speaker 16: energy cartels, and the spying software when you're deciding the future.
Speaker 1: So again, like as that he pointed out when he
Speaker 1: was on with Lord Voldemort yesterday, how many people are
Speaker 1: there covering this three people, three people covering Bilderberg. Now
Speaker 1: the most powerful people and corporate heads and banking heads,
Speaker 1: IMF heads, elites in the West are meeting in DC
Speaker 1: right now, and everyone is arguing about Trump memes on
Speaker 1: X and no one is figuring out that the Trump
Speaker 1: memes don't matter. Builderberg is what matters. So we still
Speaker 1: not made progress, right, We've still not made We've met
Speaker 1: a little progress perhaps in like people mildly waking up
Speaker 1: a little bit, but they always get shuffled into stupid,
Speaker 1: you know, political football crap. Meanwhile, the real power brokers
Speaker 1: are at Builderberg and there's only three people there, with
Speaker 1: Dan Dix covering this humanity.
Speaker 16: It's apparently important to have actual monarchs in the room.
Speaker 16: That way you can keep things classy while you dismantle sovereignty. Now,
Speaker 16: let's look at this year's official agenda. First up, we've
Speaker 16: got AI, which I would suggest is not separate from
Speaker 16: the future of warfare, autonomous drones AI targeting predictive battles
Speaker 16: and kill machines at lightning speed. The Pallanteer types are
Speaker 16: already bragging about running most of the operations in Ukraine.
Speaker 16: Buildeberg is where they align the Western Defense Industrial on
Speaker 16: how to deploy this stuff without losing control.
Speaker 4: See do you see how big that is?
Speaker 1: How important this is, This is crucial, and no one
Speaker 1: is talking about this except for Dan Dix, Jason Burmas, Lord,
Speaker 1: Voldemort myself.
Speaker 26: Or letting it spiral. Next we have Arctic security.
Speaker 16: It seems they might be eyeing the melting ice like
Speaker 16: vultures new shipping routes.
Speaker 1: I've covered Bilderberg every year for the last ten years.
Speaker 1: I mean covered in the sense of touching on it
Speaker 1: in videos, podcast every time it happens, and every time
Speaker 1: we go through the same reminders, we go through Estalin's book,
Speaker 1: We go through all this stuff, and tomorrow everybody will
Speaker 1: just be back to arguing about Trump, stupid Trump memes,
Speaker 1: and forgetting what really matter. This is why things don't change.
Speaker 1: This is why things don't change because we don't continue.
Speaker 4: To look at this.
Speaker 1: The real movers and shakers and everybody wants to do
Speaker 1: the stupid shit.
Speaker 26: Resources and military posturing up.
Speaker 16: North Russia and China are already making moves, but Builderberg
Speaker 16: wants to make sure.
Speaker 26: The West secures it first. Next up we have China.
Speaker 16: The usual obsession containment and tech decoupling Taiwan tensions and
Speaker 16: supply chains. Next, we've got digital finance cbdc's digital IDs
Speaker 16: and programmable money. This is the quiet shift from cash
Speaker 16: to total financial surveillance, track every transaction and freeze dissidence overnight.
Speaker 26: They love this stuff. Next we have energy diversification.
Speaker 1: So you noticed that Builderberg is still interested in the
Speaker 1: CBDC and programmable shut up, shut off able money. And
Speaker 1: this is another great point to introdect and talk about bitcoin.
Speaker 4: This is what bitcoin.
Speaker 1: Exists to oppose, right It opposes the Federal reserve nonsense system.
Speaker 4: It's the only.
Speaker 1: Logical, real world solution that exists right now to the
Speaker 1: existing monetary problems.
Speaker 4: The dollar will not be fixed.
Speaker 1: It's not going to have a thousand year millennial rain,
Speaker 1: like Andrew Meyer says because of the war in Iran.
Speaker 4: I don't know where he got that kind of crazy theory.
Speaker 1: But the dollar will die. And the only solution to
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Speaker 16: In other words, ditch Russian oil and gas and push
Speaker 16: the green transition harder, keep energy expensive and controlled, and get.
Speaker 26: Ready for energy lockdowns. Next we have Europe.
Speaker 16: Europe is a mess with energy crisises, migration, blowback and
Speaker 16: political fragmentation. Buildeberg chats about how to glue it all
Speaker 16: back together, how to boost defense spending, and to stop it.
Speaker 26: I'm drifting too far from right where I am right now.
Speaker 1: All right, we'll go to a couple of calls America. First, Tampa,
Speaker 1: what's up? You want to armute?
Speaker 3: Yeah, just you know, I can't.
Speaker 22: Before the space, I was on a different space, and like,
Speaker 22: you know, I simply just brought up the fact that
Speaker 22: you know, I'm twenty four years old.
Speaker 27: You know, I'm barely making it by, you know, rents
Speaker 27: up my ass every month, Like.
Speaker 3: I barely may make a script straight by.
Speaker 22: And like they're like, oh, the only thing in this
Speaker 22: run war that changed is like, you know, we just
Speaker 22: had to pay a little bit more in gas.
Speaker 3: And I'm sitting here like I can't pay a little
Speaker 3: bit more in gas? Why the fuck do I have
Speaker 3: to pay a little.
Speaker 27: Bit more in gas so we can con bomb some
Speaker 27: other countries on the other side of the world, you know, Like,
Speaker 27: and I don't know if that maybe I'm the only
Speaker 27: one that's struggling to pay and make my ends meet
Speaker 27: while my country.
Speaker 6: Just blows away billions and billions of dollars.
Speaker 3: I'm blowing people up on the other side of the
Speaker 3: world that I've never met or you know, had any
Speaker 3: kind of connection with.
Speaker 27: And it's just like I feel like you know it
Speaker 27: and then I brought it up and I feel like
Speaker 27: it has nothing to do with me, and like my
Speaker 27: you know, issues issues that I have in my country today.
Speaker 3: They like they all gang up on me and like
Speaker 3: kick me out of their groove, like kick me out
Speaker 3: of the the panel. Like as I's like, I'm in
Speaker 3: the wrong for saying that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, you understand.
Speaker 1: Don't you understand that the dollar is going to last
Speaker 1: one thousand years because of the war with Iran?
Speaker 4: I guess, but no, I'm joking. I'm joking, but I'm joking.
Speaker 3: The war doesn't help me in any way. I'm joking
Speaker 3: you know other people maybe.
Speaker 4: I know it doesn't. It doesn't.
Speaker 3: I don't benefit from it at all.
Speaker 4: No, of course not. And in fact, war is the
Speaker 4: health of the state. War is a racket.
Speaker 1: I was making a joke because that's what Andrew Meyer
Speaker 1: was arguing. Appreciate your call America first, Yeah, I totally
Speaker 1: a feel you on that space is lit. What's up, dude,
Speaker 1: Terry says for ten dollars. A few years ago, I
Speaker 1: went to a Southern Baptist bookstore. They had Christian fiction.
Speaker 1: Guess what, every book was about Amish ladies getting laid.
Speaker 1: I don't know what. Now almost every book is about
Speaker 1: the current conflict that was twenty sixteen.
Speaker 4: It's all propaganda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Baptist bookstores and Baptist evangelical stuff is literally just
Speaker 1: Israeli propaganda.
Speaker 8: That's all it is.
Speaker 1: What's up? Space is lit? I'm you?
Speaker 25: Oh hey, hello, wow.
Speaker 3: So I just want to preface the thing.
Speaker 6: I have like an infantile level of knowledge compared to you,
Speaker 6: but as a prodestan, I just have some questions about orthodoxy.
Speaker 3: Okay, I guess that My first one would be do
Speaker 3: we both agree that the Bible is the inspired word
Speaker 3: of God?
Speaker 8: Sure?
Speaker 3: So, I guess my question after that is like, why
Speaker 3: isn't that enough?
Speaker 4: Well, the Bible requires an.
Speaker 1: Interpreter, but.
Speaker 3: How can we trust.
Speaker 8: Men to interpret it? Well?
Speaker 4: Do you trust men to write the Bible?
Speaker 6: I trusted, I trust that it was divinely inspired?
Speaker 4: Yeah, but didn't men write it?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're trusting that men preserve the text and
Speaker 1: who preserve those texts?
Speaker 3: This is where my lack of knowledge comes in.
Speaker 8: But like the.
Speaker 1: Forefathers, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, who are you talking about
Speaker 1: the church?
Speaker 20: Fathers.
Speaker 1: I don't know their name, but okay, well, look, I
Speaker 1: appreciate your call, but just take a look at the
Speaker 1: history of the canon redef f Versus book, leave McDonald's
Speaker 1: book on the Formation of the Biblical cannon, and you'll
Speaker 1: realize that it didn't drop out of heaven. There was
Speaker 1: a human beings had to preserve it, and those human
Speaker 1: beings existed after the Apostles. We don't have the Apostles writings,
Speaker 1: so you're already trusting that the first second third century
Speaker 1: church fathers preserve those texts that none of us have
Speaker 1: actual autographa of Have you looked at Palm Beach Pete yet?
Speaker 1: Two dollars yes, retarded wraps your west five dollars one
Speaker 1: for the road.
Speaker 4: Hit the damn goal people.
Speaker 1: Thank you guys. We're getting close to the goal. If
Speaker 1: you guys want to support the reamay ge do so
Speaker 1: through super chats. And we are getting close to the goal.
Speaker 1: Let's see Martin, what's up? You were thumbing down my comments? Yep,
Speaker 1: what's up?
Speaker 21: Hi?
Speaker 28: Can we talk about conspiracy theories?
Speaker 1: Sure?
Speaker 28: Yeah, so I remember when the files first came out.
Speaker 28: Caller wanted to talk about hit then and how some
Speaker 28: of the like CIA related stuff gets portrayed in video games.
Speaker 28: Oh yeah, it got me thinking about how some of
Speaker 28: the stuff relating to alchemy and Cabbalism that are sort
Speaker 28: of seen in the files is portrayed in a game.
Speaker 3: Called Blood Born.
Speaker 18: Uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I played a little bit of Blood Born.
Speaker 4: I didn't get very far in it though, But what.
Speaker 1: Do you want to expand on that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, So the.
Speaker 28: Premise of the game is that some like university students
Speaker 28: go into this like ancient catacomb of this like old
Speaker 28: ancient civilization, and they find like a queen that was
Speaker 28: impregnated by like a demi urge, and they like abort
Speaker 28: the baby, and they use the baby's blood in order
Speaker 28: to conduct rituals to do.
Speaker 3: To like and turned to contact with the demire just.
Speaker 8: That rule over the world.
Speaker 4: Interesting, And that's blood How many are bloodburns?
Speaker 8: Are there? One? Two?
Speaker 1: Three?
Speaker 4: Is there more than one? Okay, appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have to check into that. A lot of
Speaker 1: video games, by the way, are full of the you know,
Speaker 1: esoteric cult subjects as an evil for you're fighting the
Speaker 1: Illuminati explicitly, they're doing a genetic experimentation. My channel or
Speaker 1: my clip channel over here Ester Hollywood Archive, shout out
Speaker 1: to that guy over there, because this has already had
Speaker 1: almost two hundred thousand views. This video that he made
Speaker 1: on Hitman showing kind of the connections to Epstein and
Speaker 1: just Laine in the twenty sixteen hit Man a very
Speaker 1: popular clip. This got a couple hundred thousand on x
Speaker 1: as well. And I think he just made another clip
Speaker 1: here about satanic elites in another game.
Speaker 4: Let's see what's on this one is ready or not yet?
Speaker 4: Before the movie rather or not?
Speaker 1: Agent forty seven faced an elite hunting party in Epstein
Speaker 1: connections in hit Man Contracts from two thousand and four.
Speaker 1: So this dude is a master of all things hit
Speaker 1: Man and he maybe somebody can look into Bloodborn. As
Speaker 1: our friend pointed out, right there, Cia sympathizer, what's up, dude?
Speaker 1: You want to umute? Are you there? You want to?
Speaker 1: I'm you dude?
Speaker 8: All right?
Speaker 1: He's having a hard time connecting. Langley won't let him connect,
Speaker 1: will what's up?
Speaker 10: Man,