WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.159 --> 00:00:01.679 To find you. 2 00:00:03.560 --> 00:00:06.000 Hey, it's actually Josh told the wife's phone for this. 3 00:00:06.040 --> 00:00:06.719 How you doing, man? 4 00:00:06.960 --> 00:00:07.240 Good? 5 00:00:08.599 --> 00:00:15.599 Hey man, Christo Sinasty some of your thoughts on this man, 6 00:00:15.720 --> 00:00:17.760 So you know you've talked a good bit about you 7 00:00:17.920 --> 00:00:20.719 the problem of the humanism within Orthodox circles and stuff. 8 00:00:20.719 --> 00:00:22.600 I've actually called him before about some of that, and 9 00:00:22.879 --> 00:00:25.399 I always have good stuff to say you. 10 00:00:25.519 --> 00:00:27.679 That is not me anyway. 11 00:00:27.760 --> 00:00:32.159 I was reading the classic Calistos War's book The Orthodox Church, 12 00:00:32.439 --> 00:00:35.719 and correct me if I'm wrong, but I definitely believe 13 00:00:35.880 --> 00:00:39.119 I saw some like proto ecumenist strains of thought. There 14 00:00:40.240 --> 00:00:42.679 a lot of stuff that almost seemed critical of our 15 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:46.280 own history. And uh, I just you know, when you 16 00:00:46.359 --> 00:00:51.280 have these old timy Anglican converts to correct Orthodoxy like that, 17 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:53.600 is that a common thing in those academic circles. 18 00:00:53.920 --> 00:00:57.799 Unfortunately, yes, unfortunately it is. And he wrote some pro 19 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:01.479 Skittles articles towards his end of his life before he 20 00:01:01.520 --> 00:01:05.359 passed away. So he unfortunately drifted in a very bad direction. 21 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:09.079 There's some bad things in uh Orthodox way has an 22 00:01:09.079 --> 00:01:16.560 a pocket destasis universalist statement. There's also a statement that's 23 00:01:16.599 --> 00:01:19.319 the Protestant PSA view. So he fell into PSA and 24 00:01:19.359 --> 00:01:24.120 so the sun was damned. But yeah, and then even 25 00:01:24.159 --> 00:01:28.920 in that, he's the editor of that book, The Bible 26 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:33.359 and the Fathers, that follows the liturgical readings, and he 27 00:01:33.439 --> 00:01:37.480 includes C. I. Schofield commentaries and the Orthodox just so ridiculous, 28 00:01:37.480 --> 00:01:39.799 like why in the world would you put that in there. 29 00:01:39.799 --> 00:01:42.840 So unfortunately callis was where it started pretty good and 30 00:01:43.159 --> 00:01:47.280 faded into some pretty bad stuff. So but yes, in 31 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.239 another father, Stephen Freeman, unfortunately, who's I think less active 32 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.439 these days than he used to be, is also very 33 00:01:54.519 --> 00:01:57.959 notorious for some of the same Anglicans sort of in 34 00:01:58.319 --> 00:02:02.280 his case modernist approaches to the Bible. So the Bible 35 00:02:02.319 --> 00:02:05.640 for him is all higher criticism. And I made some 36 00:02:06.120 --> 00:02:10.919 videos years ago when I first started my channel or Assuman, 37 00:02:10.960 --> 00:02:13.719 when I first started doing Orthodox videos and calling those 38 00:02:13.759 --> 00:02:17.360 things out, and lo and behold, that caused inadvertently a 39 00:02:17.479 --> 00:02:21.080 huge kerfluffle, which I didn't realize. My channel was much 40 00:02:21.080 --> 00:02:23.879 smaller back then, but somehow that got around and that 41 00:02:24.000 --> 00:02:26.080 ended up getting like twenty or thirty thousand views, which 42 00:02:26.120 --> 00:02:29.240 is pretty big viewage back then for a small channel. 43 00:02:29.840 --> 00:02:31.599 And that made a lot of Orthodox people mad. 44 00:02:31.479 --> 00:02:34.159 At me, because you know, who who's this new convert 45 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:38.919 who's talking about higher criticism or whatever. Well, it turns out, yeah, 46 00:02:38.960 --> 00:02:43.759 higher criticism is antithetical to Christianity. Social logo. 47 00:02:43.879 --> 00:02:54.840 What's up, dude, socio logo. 48 00:02:54.879 --> 00:02:55.599 I'mut man. 49 00:02:58.080 --> 00:03:02.919 Ain't kay? Hello, Hey, I have a question of philosophy. 50 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:06.680 Can I ask you? Okay? 51 00:03:06.759 --> 00:03:12.680 So I was arguing with these LGBT persons some days ago, 52 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:18.319 and we are, you know, debating about homosexuality and all that. 53 00:03:18.680 --> 00:03:21.599 And he used the argument that you. 54 00:03:21.560 --> 00:03:26.280 Can find homosexual behavior in animals and since the beginning of. 55 00:03:26.280 --> 00:03:28.520 Times, the all civilizations. 56 00:03:29.639 --> 00:03:33.159 And I answer that saying that you can also find 57 00:03:33.680 --> 00:03:38.400 you know, rape, murder and all that in all civilizations too, 58 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:41.400 and in animals and oh. 59 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:44.039 Yeah, I mean animals. Animals eat, they're young too, So 60 00:03:44.120 --> 00:03:45.719 that's ridiculous, retarded argument. 61 00:03:46.360 --> 00:03:48.960 And he answered that saying that it wasn't fair of 62 00:03:49.000 --> 00:03:52.840 my part to compare two adults agreeing to love each other. 63 00:03:53.039 --> 00:03:58.879 And you know, he's moving the goal posts. He's moving 64 00:03:58.919 --> 00:04:04.840 the goalposts and being our tree. So if in a naturalist, atheist, 65 00:04:04.960 --> 00:04:10.159 materialist worldview, an adult is really a meaningless construct for 66 00:04:10.560 --> 00:04:13.719 the same collection of molecules, so it doesn't matter that 67 00:04:13.800 --> 00:04:16.560 he moves the goalpost to quote adult. And by the way, 68 00:04:16.600 --> 00:04:19.600 how does he know what the cutoff is amongst an 69 00:04:19.639 --> 00:04:22.560 adult and a non adult. It would all just be arbitrary. 70 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:25.879 So it's a version of the naturalist fallacy. Right, Oh well, 71 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:28.680 it's just natural for people, for animals, for people to 72 00:04:28.720 --> 00:04:31.199 do this because animals do it. Well, what is how 73 00:04:31.199 --> 00:04:32.279 do we know what's natural? 74 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:32.720 Right? 75 00:04:33.199 --> 00:04:35.199 So this is just a version of the naturalist fallacy. 76 00:04:35.519 --> 00:04:36.560 All you have to do is point. 77 00:04:36.360 --> 00:04:39.079 Out fallacies, right, Just like when that idiot Freemason was 78 00:04:39.120 --> 00:04:41.399 on here earlier, right, he started off with like four 79 00:04:41.399 --> 00:04:43.800 different fallacies. I'm like, dude, get out of here. Leave 80 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:46.000 it to Ethan ten dollars. All the podcasts on the 81 00:04:46.040 --> 00:04:48.439 tour have been great. The Jamie Kennedy episode was hilarious. 82 00:04:48.480 --> 00:04:51.120 Thank you man, I appreciate that. Yeah, it came out great. 83 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:54.079 And Jamie's episode was really funny too, because Jamie Kennedy 84 00:04:54.120 --> 00:04:57.959 had the same meltdown over the moth that he had 85 00:04:58.000 --> 00:05:04.439 with me and made for like unintentional, bizarre, weird comedy on. 86 00:05:04.319 --> 00:05:07.319 Its own and the other thing that's funny too. 87 00:05:07.360 --> 00:05:09.000 And people get mad at Jamie Kennedy when you're on 88 00:05:09.000 --> 00:05:14.800 his podcast because he's like, stop joking, stop that impressions 89 00:05:15.720 --> 00:05:17.560 and then you think, oh man, he's gonna get mad 90 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:19.720 because it wasn't and then he'll start doing the impressions 91 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.879 and started joking around. So it's like and people were 92 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.360 getting angry in the chat and fussing at him, and 93 00:05:25.399 --> 00:05:28.240 it's like, dude, this is his show, right, Like if 94 00:05:28.279 --> 00:05:31.240 you remember Jamie Kennedy experiment, that's what he does. 95 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:32.600 Like he he likes to. 96 00:05:32.600 --> 00:05:35.720 Kind of mess with and troll the guests. That's part 97 00:05:35.759 --> 00:05:38.199 of the whole stick. And it was the same with 98 00:05:38.279 --> 00:05:40.639 Jesse Lee Peterson, as you guys will see because that 99 00:05:40.720 --> 00:05:43.680 episode will be coming out this week as well in 100 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.399 the next i think six days, so look for the 101 00:05:47.160 --> 00:05:50.160 Kurioku interview and the Jesse Lee Peterson interview coming out 102 00:05:50.160 --> 00:05:53.399 this week. And uh, you know, Jesse Lee Peterson likes 103 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:55.199 to troll his guests as well a little bit. And 104 00:05:55.639 --> 00:05:59.959 it's actually funny because you don't know, is is Jesse crazy? 105 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:03.639 He is he domb? Is he serious? Is he joking? 106 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:05.000 And that that. 107 00:06:05.199 --> 00:06:09.639 Uh, destabilizing effect that he has is actually what makes 108 00:06:09.680 --> 00:06:16.639 for the unintentional intentional comedy. So you know that's millennial 109 00:06:16.920 --> 00:06:24.680 humor anyway, right, all that irony whatever kind of insanity stuff. 110 00:06:25.399 --> 00:06:27.920 I mean when when Jesse Lee Peterson was on. 111 00:06:29.879 --> 00:06:32.120 With Sam Hyde, he was like, do you realize you 112 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.160 had never done nothing wrong in your life? Do you 113 00:06:35.240 --> 00:06:37.879 do you realize you had never seen in your life? 114 00:06:37.920 --> 00:06:41.079 You had never done nothing wrong? And Sam's like, I'm 115 00:06:41.079 --> 00:06:44.959 pretty sure I have now you had not? And if 116 00:06:44.959 --> 00:06:47.279 you could have perfect peace right now, would you have 117 00:06:47.399 --> 00:06:48.079 perfect peace? 118 00:06:50.279 --> 00:06:54.079 And then so then when he's interviewing interviewing me, he goes, 119 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:57.680 do you forgive your mother for what she had done 120 00:06:57.759 --> 00:07:01.120 to you? And I'm like, what do you forgive? 121 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:01.399 Y'all? 122 00:07:01.439 --> 00:07:05.079 Mobile? I'll evil called fruit of Mobile. And I'm like, well, 123 00:07:05.120 --> 00:07:06.600 wait a minute, I thought you told Sam Hi then 124 00:07:06.639 --> 00:07:10.439 nobody ever sinned. It's an illusion, So how could my 125 00:07:10.519 --> 00:07:14.399 mom have done me wrong? If nobody sins And it's 126 00:07:14.480 --> 00:07:18.399 just like it's crazy, right, But I guess that's part 127 00:07:18.439 --> 00:07:18.800 of the fun. 128 00:07:18.920 --> 00:07:19.240 Ken. 129 00:07:20.319 --> 00:07:22.560 By the way, I trolled him back, and I'm not 130 00:07:22.600 --> 00:07:24.959 gonna I'm not gonna tell you how I trolled him back, 131 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.800 but I think I got him pretty good, Ken Fresno. 132 00:07:28.240 --> 00:07:30.319 And I don't just mean impersonating him to his face, 133 00:07:30.399 --> 00:07:33.519 I mean actually trolling distantly Peterson tripping him up a bit. 134 00:07:33.920 --> 00:07:38.639 It was fun though, MKG seven dollars. Christos a nasty god. 135 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:41.240 Bless you for bringing me inn orthodoxy. Here's many more 136 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:44.040 cringe core records is signing yours? Are they signing a 137 00:07:44.120 --> 00:07:46.439 new artist at the moment? Well, I'll tell you what. 138 00:07:47.120 --> 00:07:49.879 Uh Doctor Evo sent me the link to register as 139 00:07:49.920 --> 00:07:56.560 an artist at DMI or whatever, So okay, I'm gonna 140 00:07:56.600 --> 00:08:01.399 do it. Ken f has no ten dollars? Does Bishop 141 00:08:01.399 --> 00:08:02.879 Bard the Night? Everything in Genesis? 142 00:08:02.879 --> 00:08:03.120 Then? 143 00:08:03.519 --> 00:08:05.240 Well, see, this is one of the problems with the 144 00:08:05.240 --> 00:08:09.040 people that take this view. It's like it becomes arbitrary, right. 145 00:08:09.040 --> 00:08:10.959 They want to say Adam and Eve or sort of 146 00:08:11.000 --> 00:08:14.920 like symbolic archetypes for ancient you know, Geico, cavemen or whatever. 147 00:08:15.480 --> 00:08:17.800 And it's like, oh, okay, well then so what about 148 00:08:17.839 --> 00:08:20.639 all the other things in Genesis? Oh yeah, I see 149 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:25.519 the problem. It's Pandora's box gets opened up, by the way, 150 00:08:25.560 --> 00:08:28.959 Pandora's Box. I was talking about it her Kuci Dude, 151 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:29.319 if you. 152 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.199 Didn't know, do you all? 153 00:08:31.519 --> 00:08:34.320 You just made that connection right Pandora's Box. Don't let 154 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:38.679 that Kouchie open up? Things get crazy, bro, Oh we're 155 00:08:38.679 --> 00:08:42.799 getting nasty up in here anyways, Well, what about the 156 00:08:42.840 --> 00:08:45.720 New Testament? The New Testament says in many places in 157 00:08:45.840 --> 00:08:50.120 the Gospels it refers back to all kinds of events 158 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:54.080 in Genesis. Oh, then I guess the Gospels are also wrong. 159 00:08:54.840 --> 00:08:59.600 You see the what this leads to. So all of 160 00:08:59.600 --> 00:09:01.639 the place is in the Gospels where Jesus refers to 161 00:09:01.679 --> 00:09:03.879 Adam and Eve. Oh, I guess he got it wrong 162 00:09:03.879 --> 00:09:08.120 because they were just symbolic figures. But these people, they're 163 00:09:08.200 --> 00:09:11.559 not interested in going that route or like thinking this through, dude, 164 00:09:12.120 --> 00:09:16.679 They're just public face academic people, or supposedly academic. They're 165 00:09:16.720 --> 00:09:22.000 more like bureaucratic spokespeople, right, Like a bishop Baron is 166 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:28.480 a bureaucratic spokesperson more than a truth seeker. I mean, 167 00:09:28.559 --> 00:09:32.600 dudes over here liking dude's feet, he's over here on 168 00:09:32.840 --> 00:09:38.720 supposedly looks like Facebook liking dude's feats. I mean, come on, right, 169 00:09:38.799 --> 00:09:42.799 what are you even doing? But why is that surprising 170 00:09:42.879 --> 00:09:51.399 for a novus orto bishop, not a masaud agent. Should 171 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:54.240 I throw away orthodox away? I mean, I have all 172 00:09:54.240 --> 00:09:58.960 my Calvinist books. I have a giant shelf of heretic books. 173 00:09:59.080 --> 00:10:00.679 I don't think you need to throw it away. I 174 00:10:00.679 --> 00:10:03.559 mean I would just keep all that stuff for reference. 175 00:10:03.759 --> 00:10:11.000 So Jesus' son two dollars, consider the divine Mersley Chaplet 176 00:10:11.000 --> 00:10:12.639 and what it is. Bro I used to be a 177 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:17.000 Roman Catholic. Are you serious? Uh? You're talking about You're 178 00:10:17.000 --> 00:10:20.639 talking about Margaret Mary Alakoquait, right. I mean she's one 179 00:10:20.679 --> 00:10:25.320 of the strongest arguments against Roman Catholicism. This insane historyonic 180 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:32.279 woman cutting herself. Are you that doesn't prove from Catholicism anyway. 181 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:35.279 We got a lot of stuff we got to get 182 00:10:35.279 --> 00:10:38.879 to redeem. Zoomer, we gotta You guys are being very generous, 183 00:10:38.879 --> 00:10:42.320 and I appreciate that. A lot of super jazz coming in. Uh. 184 00:10:42.600 --> 00:10:44.600 Neil Perry says for ten dollars, can I get your best? 185 00:10:45.000 --> 00:10:48.200 Jordan Peterson's saying Christ's rhythm? Well, I apologize because we 186 00:10:48.320 --> 00:10:53.200 drove three hours last night from Nashville at three in 187 00:10:53.240 --> 00:10:57.519 the morning, and we didn't get home until six, so, uh, 188 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.919 I pretty much feel like I'm hungover. So my impressions 189 00:11:00.919 --> 00:11:06.480 are not going to be spot on today because my 190 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:07.639 voice is all ft up. 191 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:11.600 But well, you know, Christ has risen. 192 00:11:12.919 --> 00:11:13.799 Depends on what. 193 00:11:13.720 --> 00:11:14.679 You mean by risen. 194 00:11:14.720 --> 00:11:17.720 Though, it's like, it's like, what the heck you know, 195 00:11:18.559 --> 00:11:20.879 say that's I fell into my old order Peterson, I 196 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:22.720 got it better and then I fell back into my 197 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:23.159 old one. 198 00:11:23.759 --> 00:11:26.679 It's like, you know, it's like, what's that mean? When 199 00:11:26.679 --> 00:11:31.519 it says you know, he's risen or whatever, It's like, 200 00:11:31.559 --> 00:11:33.399 I get it, but it's like, was he asleep or 201 00:11:33.799 --> 00:11:34.440 what does it mean? 202 00:11:34.480 --> 00:11:34.639 You know? 203 00:11:38.759 --> 00:11:44.279 Do you plan to respond to orthodox me Redeemed Zoomers 204 00:11:45.360 --> 00:11:50.320 debunk of Orthodoxy? Dude, it's in the title, bro, It's 205 00:11:50.360 --> 00:11:54.000 literally in the title of the video. So yes, but 206 00:11:54.240 --> 00:11:58.120 thank you Nibsen for that super chatting. He says, uh, 207 00:11:58.279 --> 00:12:05.480 Christ has risen, indeed he is, and that freemason's putting 208 00:12:05.480 --> 00:12:09.960 a curse on my vocal cords. He put a Cabbala 209 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:18.320 curse on my vocal cords. I could do I can 210 00:12:18.360 --> 00:12:20.399 do it really good if my voice wasn't ft up, 211 00:12:20.399 --> 00:12:22.759 but it's not doing well right now. Hosy five dollars. 212 00:12:22.840 --> 00:12:26.480 Do you have a question, how did Matthew know Jesus 213 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:31.720 fasted if he met Jesus after the fact, I mean 214 00:12:31.759 --> 00:12:34.200 he wrote the gospel later on? Dude, what are you 215 00:12:34.240 --> 00:12:34.759 talking about? 216 00:12:36.960 --> 00:12:37.039 So? 217 00:12:37.879 --> 00:12:39.440 I mean it says at the end of Luke that 218 00:12:39.519 --> 00:12:43.440 Jesus opened the eyes of the apostles to understand all 219 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.360 the things that were written and then it was recorded. 220 00:12:46.159 --> 00:12:54.360 So I don't understand the question. Let's talk God five 221 00:12:54.399 --> 00:13:01.720 dollars a janitor versus forty seven missiles elite kuriaku ball knowledge. 222 00:13:03.320 --> 00:13:07.960 I don't know what that means, but it's sounds very esoteric. 223 00:13:08.000 --> 00:13:11.039 Captain slow boy five dollars. I think you're right about everything, 224 00:13:11.120 --> 00:13:15.320 but I enjoy Candace, who is oft and wrong. Candace 225 00:13:15.320 --> 00:13:20.159 said that she would debate Kirk with somebody like you 226 00:13:20.919 --> 00:13:23.720 would you be down, You're the best. But I don't 227 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.480 have a I don't want to debate Charlie Kirk theories. 228 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:29.639 I don't have a set theory on Charlie Kirk. And 229 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:31.840 are you saying that she actually said she would debate 230 00:13:31.879 --> 00:13:33.440 me or just someone like me? 231 00:13:33.679 --> 00:13:37.159 That's confusing here, Like. 232 00:13:37.120 --> 00:13:41.559 That goober freemason that just called in was like he 233 00:13:41.600 --> 00:13:44.399 starts talking about Charlie Kirk bullets, Like what does this 234 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:48.240 have to do with the accusation that everybody from Alex 235 00:13:48.279 --> 00:13:52.960 to Tucker is a is fake traders? Like nothing to 236 00:13:53.000 --> 00:13:56.440 do with what I asked him about. And I don't 237 00:13:56.480 --> 00:13:59.759 know what, I don't believe the official story, but I 238 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.039 don't have a set theory on what exactly went down, 239 00:14:02.399 --> 00:14:04.279 So I don't understand. 240 00:14:05.399 --> 00:14:07.679 Why I would debate. I don't have a position I wanted. 241 00:14:07.720 --> 00:14:08.840 I would rather debate. 242 00:14:08.600 --> 00:14:15.840 Her on other topics that she goes into, like Sumerian 243 00:14:15.960 --> 00:14:20.240 time travel technology, whatever bullshit she was pushing. I mean, 244 00:14:20.279 --> 00:14:25.919 obviously that's not true. Zach sends one hundred and sixty dollars. 245 00:14:25.960 --> 00:14:28.240 Thank you so much. Whatever the a's is, that Canadian 246 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:31.200 or Australian Christ has risen, blessed pasca to you and Jamie, 247 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.879 Thank you so much. Christ has risen from the dead, 248 00:14:34.039 --> 00:14:37.279 triumphing down death by death, end upon those in the 249 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:46.559 tombesb storbing lot Jamie, Jamie, could you bring me a 250 00:14:47.159 --> 00:14:57.919 cough drop? She probably can't hear me. Hey, Jamie, do 251 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.320 you think you can bring me a cough drop? One 252 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:02.399 of those little then new honey cough drops. I think 253 00:15:02.440 --> 00:15:08.200 there's there's a couple more in that jar. Well, if not, 254 00:15:08.279 --> 00:15:10.159 that's fine, I could just put some money in that coffee. 255 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:15.440 Thank you so again, guys. This weekend, Next weekend, Nashville 256 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:21.679 Debate Me versus Two Freemasons including your boy, Chase Geyser, 257 00:15:24.000 --> 00:15:34.039 me versus Chase Guyser and his assistant his lodge butt buddy. 258 00:15:34.639 --> 00:15:42.600 I'm just joking, Edgar. Two dollars, thank you, Captain slow boy. 259 00:15:42.759 --> 00:15:46.320 Now we did that one. Ken Frezeno ten dollars. Now 260 00:15:46.399 --> 00:15:51.600 we did that one cobold. Would you debate Corey mal 261 00:15:51.720 --> 00:15:54.440 Or No, that is insane in psycho I tried to 262 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:57.240 debate him like two years ago and he just literally 263 00:15:57.320 --> 00:16:00.159 just cusses you out, doesn't even he doesn't even they 264 00:16:00.200 --> 00:16:04.559 or make arguments. Leave it, Teithan, Now we did that. 265 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:08.360 Storm the Cat the YouTube algorithm pushes a Bishop Baron. 266 00:16:09.039 --> 00:16:11.840 He has Skittles boomer energy. Well, yeah, like he's over 267 00:16:11.840 --> 00:16:16.480 here liking dude's feats, so uh and yeah, of course 268 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:17.960 they're gonna they always push these people. 269 00:16:18.039 --> 00:16:18.399 Dude. 270 00:16:18.799 --> 00:16:22.960 The algorithm, I mean cyclone drew five dollars. No, we 271 00:16:23.000 --> 00:16:25.039 did that. We were left. 272 00:16:27.840 --> 00:16:27.879 A. 273 00:16:28.039 --> 00:16:31.440 Brockley says that Freemason Dude's arguments were full of right 274 00:16:31.480 --> 00:16:34.080 angle fallacies. That was so stupid. It's like, do you 275 00:16:34.120 --> 00:16:37.639 believe in right angles? It is a circle three or 276 00:16:37.679 --> 00:16:40.559 sixty degrees? Like, what the what are you talking about? Dude. 277 00:16:41.320 --> 00:16:42.399 Contemporary companion. 278 00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:45.159 That dude was trying to do Steiner math and he 279 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:50.519 failed to Mother Mason Caleb says, bish Nigga University gonna 280 00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:53.080 win this Natty this year for Chad nerd for the Heisman. 281 00:16:53.159 --> 00:16:56.879 Thank you, Tingu. Ten dollars, Happy Paska Christ has risen. 282 00:16:57.759 --> 00:17:02.279 Indeed he has risen. Great Scott. Five dollars, Jay, get 283 00:17:02.320 --> 00:17:07.799 yourself an expresso, aqua fire sprints. Praise be to Jesus. Indeed, 284 00:17:08.640 --> 00:17:12.799 prompt five dollars. If you're gonna do call ins, I'm 285 00:17:12.799 --> 00:17:16.519 gonna call in later. I want to ask about geopolitical 286 00:17:16.519 --> 00:17:19.720 stuff and spy things. Sure, do you have any thoughts 287 00:17:19.759 --> 00:17:21.799 on Three Days the Condor? Yeah, it's a classic movie. 288 00:17:21.799 --> 00:17:25.000 We've covered it for many years. Really ties in the 289 00:17:25.000 --> 00:17:30.519 world of Hollywood writing writers, right because they have basically 290 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:35.200 a CIA outfit that's reading literature to scan it for 291 00:17:36.440 --> 00:17:40.200 codes or information. And it's a great conspiracy movie where 292 00:17:40.240 --> 00:17:42.039 you know, Robert referred ends up on the run from 293 00:17:42.039 --> 00:17:46.039 a corrupt CIA that's trying to kill him. It's kind 294 00:17:46.039 --> 00:17:49.799 of a conspiracy classic. We've covered it quite a bit. 295 00:17:49.880 --> 00:17:54.119 But what about Mockingbird. You know that movie might have 296 00:17:54.160 --> 00:17:56.680 a relationship to Operation Mockingbird. I didn't even think about that, 297 00:17:57.279 --> 00:18:03.960 but it probably does. Post the time stamps for redeemed Zoomer. Well, 298 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.079 there's a new dude, jib took Up took a break 299 00:18:07.079 --> 00:18:09.240 from the internet. Remember Jub he was out here as 300 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:13.960 a solid time stamper and he took a break. I 301 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:16.920 think he has a baby now, so congrats to him. 302 00:18:17.640 --> 00:18:20.359 But there's a new guy who's doing the timestamps that's 303 00:18:20.359 --> 00:18:22.799 doing pretty good, So shout out to that dude. And guys, 304 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:24.440 thank you so much for all the clips channels. You 305 00:18:24.480 --> 00:18:28.119 guys are really killing it. Please continue clipping. Anyone else 306 00:18:28.119 --> 00:18:30.759 who wants to clip and create a clip channel, feel free. 307 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:34.160 We've got several now that are monetized. I give you 308 00:18:34.200 --> 00:18:39.119 permission and they're doing well. Dire Archive, Esoter, Hollywood Archive, 309 00:18:39.240 --> 00:18:41.960 and Dire Central are all doing well. 310 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:42.880 And then I own the. 311 00:18:42.799 --> 00:18:45.279 Other two dire clips channels, so they're doing pretty good. 312 00:18:46.480 --> 00:18:49.160 But remember to link back to me if you would 313 00:18:49.160 --> 00:18:51.480 if you create a clip channel, and feel free also 314 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:53.319 not to just clip on YouTube, but feel free to 315 00:18:53.319 --> 00:18:57.119 clip anywhere else because it always helps. On Instagram, TikTok, 316 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:03.480 you name it. Jacob king Fham already proved in court 317 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:09.119 c I a mafia killed MLK King. Oh, the King family, 318 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:15.799 if they killed Kirk or JFK is irrelevant, irrelevant in 319 00:19:15.839 --> 00:19:20.799 this manner. Yeah, that's interesting. I've known that and we've 320 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:22.079 been arguing for a long time that there was a 321 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:26.279 confluence of interest, and that would include organized crime. It 322 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.720 would include, in my view, elements within the power structure 323 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.440 of Israel. I think that's been vindicated from the Community 324 00:19:33.480 --> 00:19:36.880 case and the JFK files between James Jesus Angleton UH 325 00:19:36.960 --> 00:19:39.599 in Israel, UH and the c I so C A 326 00:19:39.799 --> 00:19:43.799 organized crime UH and elements of Israel were involved in 327 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.480 the assassination of JFK. 328 00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:48.839 That's my view. I do think there probably. 329 00:19:48.559 --> 00:19:50.440 Was a conspiracy in the case of MLK, but I 330 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:54.759 don't know that case as well as the others. I've 331 00:19:54.799 --> 00:19:58.519 read several books on JFK. I'm not a boomer JFK 332 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:05.039 conspiracy expert. I read only three books on it, and 333 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.519 I think everybody knows the one, the book that's probably 334 00:20:07.519 --> 00:20:10.759 the most vindicated, and you know which one I'm talking about. 335 00:20:12.079 --> 00:20:15.960 At least after the JFK files, it would seem that 336 00:20:16.039 --> 00:20:18.799 Michael Collins Piper's book has probably been the most vindicated. 337 00:20:21.920 --> 00:20:23.880 Myron Chuck says, for ten dollars sake, what's up, bro? 338 00:20:23.960 --> 00:20:26.640 How you doing? Christ has Risen? I got to teach 339 00:20:26.720 --> 00:20:29.400 you how to do a macho man Randy Savage impersonation. 340 00:20:30.319 --> 00:20:31.079 I know how to do it. 341 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:35.359 Ooh, it's the macho man Randy Savage. 342 00:20:37.119 --> 00:20:37.480 How's that? 343 00:20:42.000 --> 00:20:42.720 Is that good enough? 344 00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:50.240 My voice is raspy, so it still wasn't because it's 345 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:54.400 a little more grind in that voice than I did. 346 00:20:54.440 --> 00:21:01.359 But I think that's probably good enough. Okay, I'm noticing 347 00:21:01.400 --> 00:21:05.440 that restream doesn't seems like it doesn't show super chats 348 00:21:05.480 --> 00:21:07.920 in one pile, so I guess I have to keep 349 00:21:09.039 --> 00:21:13.279 monitoring different situations. All right, let's go to the next 350 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:15.119 guy that's been waiting for a while. I'm America. 351 00:21:15.160 --> 00:21:15.559 What's up? 352 00:21:16.599 --> 00:21:20.039 We're talking to just freaking America. You want to interview 353 00:21:20.119 --> 00:21:20.920 or talk to America? 354 00:21:20.960 --> 00:21:21.119 Here? 355 00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:22.799 He is right here, America. 356 00:21:23.359 --> 00:21:23.720 Freak. 357 00:21:23.799 --> 00:21:27.039 Yeah, what's up America? 358 00:21:28.440 --> 00:21:30.839 What's going on? Jay Dyer? It's Andrew Meyer. 359 00:21:31.640 --> 00:21:34.200 Oh no, not Andrew Meyer. 360 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:38.599 You know what I'm band about here? Right, I've been 361 00:21:38.680 --> 00:21:40.279 bad for like six months. 362 00:21:40.559 --> 00:21:43.039 I remember you getting banned, but what what was that over? 363 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:43.640 I don't remember. 364 00:21:44.759 --> 00:21:47.920 Oh, I was just getting mass reported by literal communists 365 00:21:47.960 --> 00:21:48.799 and gropers. 366 00:21:49.599 --> 00:21:54.440 Oh and uh interesting, So how you been, man, what's 367 00:21:54.480 --> 00:21:54.960 on your mind? 368 00:21:56.000 --> 00:21:59.960 Everything's good. I just saw your title here and I'm 369 00:22:00.000 --> 00:22:00.599 I'm curious. 370 00:22:00.720 --> 00:22:04.039 You know, Owens, Troyer, and Andrew Wilson are about to 371 00:22:04.079 --> 00:22:07.440 debate Trump and Iran. I'm curious where you come down 372 00:22:07.480 --> 00:22:09.160 on which side of things. 373 00:22:10.559 --> 00:22:14.160 I am opposed to the Iran strikes. 374 00:22:14.200 --> 00:22:17.799 And see, for me, everybody thinks it's like, oh, Trump 375 00:22:17.880 --> 00:22:20.000 is doing this for Israel, but I've been saying for 376 00:22:20.119 --> 00:22:23.160 months he's doing this for the petro dollar, He's doing 377 00:22:23.160 --> 00:22:25.720 this for oil, and it's like all the news is 378 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:29.720 coming out now, like the dollars just had its strongest year, 379 00:22:30.279 --> 00:22:32.920 his strongest month since September twenty twenty two. 380 00:22:33.000 --> 00:22:35.599 Well, there could be multiple there could be multiple motivations. 381 00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:39.519 That's true, That is true. And I think that's this split. 382 00:22:39.680 --> 00:22:43.519 Like every time that Mark Levin or net Yahoo or 383 00:22:43.559 --> 00:22:46.400 whatever is begging Trump and going ballistic and Trump's not 384 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:50.279 doing what they want, it's because Trump is achieving his objective. 385 00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:53.440 For America, but they want more for Israel. 386 00:22:53.759 --> 00:22:56.319 And I really think people don't see that Trump is 387 00:22:56.359 --> 00:22:57.559 not a puppet and that. 388 00:22:57.640 --> 00:22:59.759 The things he do is it's for the benefit of 389 00:22:59.839 --> 00:23:00.480 him America. 390 00:23:00.559 --> 00:23:03.319 I debated Harrison Smith about this a week or two ago. 391 00:23:04.000 --> 00:23:07.480 Totally vindicated, Like if you watch that, you can't watch it. 392 00:23:07.640 --> 00:23:08.440 Listened to that today. 393 00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.359 It's phenomenal and everything I said to Harrison that he 394 00:23:11.400 --> 00:23:14.519 didn't want to accept, like Trump said the things that 395 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:18.440 I said like a day later, so it's like totally vindicated. 396 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:23.720 Well, I've not heard that discussion, but I mean, I 397 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.559 think if you look, for example, at the seizing of 398 00:23:27.599 --> 00:23:31.759 oil via you know, Maduro, that would seem to also 399 00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.400 prop up Petro dollar. That would be something that would 400 00:23:34.400 --> 00:23:36.920 assist in the in the propping up Petro dollars. So 401 00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:39.640 in other words, I think that's an instance where that 402 00:23:39.680 --> 00:23:42.599 definitely applies, because that's exactly what I. 403 00:23:42.559 --> 00:23:44.960 Said to Harrison, and he said, no, there's no benefit 404 00:23:45.039 --> 00:23:45.720 to America or. 405 00:23:45.720 --> 00:23:47.119 The dollar from US seizing Vina. 406 00:23:47.200 --> 00:23:49.920 Well, I'm not even saying that I agree. I'm not 407 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:53.319 even saying I agree with that action. I don't. I'm 408 00:23:53.359 --> 00:23:58.000 not sure what my position is on Maduro and socialism. 409 00:23:58.000 --> 00:24:00.400 I mean, I'm not pro socialist, but I'm saying regime 410 00:24:00.480 --> 00:24:05.720 change shop operations are very tricky and difficult to argue 411 00:24:05.799 --> 00:24:09.039 and debate because it gets into all these factors about 412 00:24:09.119 --> 00:24:13.839 you know, well, what's the greatest net positive for our 413 00:24:13.960 --> 00:24:17.200 people that's achieved via regime change operations? And I think 414 00:24:17.200 --> 00:24:19.119 one of the problems that if you start going down 415 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.920 that route, then it opens the door for you know, 416 00:24:21.960 --> 00:24:25.559 Pandora's kouchi, right, Pandora's box gets opened up, and then 417 00:24:25.559 --> 00:24:27.759 you have a justification for well, well, I guess we 418 00:24:27.799 --> 00:24:31.359 can then just you know, could we then regime change 419 00:24:31.400 --> 00:24:34.839 any future potential problems with America or to America. Well, 420 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:37.680 in that case, then we're basically just remaking entire globe. 421 00:24:37.680 --> 00:24:39.279 So we might as well just be imperialists. 422 00:24:39.279 --> 00:24:43.400 Which maybe maybe imperialism in some sort of like Byzantine 423 00:24:43.400 --> 00:24:47.559 model would be something I would argue for, But I 424 00:24:47.640 --> 00:24:50.160 just don't think that. And I know that you're critical 425 00:24:50.240 --> 00:24:53.759 of net yahoo in the existing power structure Israel, so 426 00:24:54.720 --> 00:25:01.160 you would probably disagree with the view that this is all. 427 00:25:02.559 --> 00:25:03.359 Just Zionism. 428 00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:06.359 But my question to you would be, don't you think 429 00:25:06.559 --> 00:25:08.680 this is the ode ed U non plan and the 430 00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:12.160 clean Break strategy and the Seven Nations plan all just 431 00:25:12.200 --> 00:25:13.160 sort of in culmination. 432 00:25:14.759 --> 00:25:18.480 I definitely think they're pushing for that stuff. Yes, they're 433 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:21.839 definitely pushing for that, but that's not my concern here. 434 00:25:22.000 --> 00:25:23.799 I look at it only the same. 435 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:27.119 Way Trump does, from the framework of what benefits. 436 00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:28.799 America, and like the way you put. 437 00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:30.880 It, it's like, do we want to be open imperialists? 438 00:25:31.279 --> 00:25:33.480 Like when I read A Secret History of the American 439 00:25:33.519 --> 00:25:36.039 Empire by John Perkins when I was like twenty, Yeah, 440 00:25:36.079 --> 00:25:39.119 I was like horrified, like, oh, we're taking out leaders 441 00:25:39.119 --> 00:25:42.079 in South America just like murdering them and then getting 442 00:25:42.119 --> 00:25:43.279 the country to do what we want. 443 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:44.480 I was never for that. 444 00:25:44.920 --> 00:25:46.559 But the way I look at the work, the way 445 00:25:46.599 --> 00:25:49.119 things are now in the world, it's like, Okay, the 446 00:25:49.240 --> 00:25:51.160 Chinese communists. 447 00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:51.799 Are all over the globe. 448 00:25:51.799 --> 00:25:55.400 They're in North America, South America like doing a pincer 449 00:25:55.440 --> 00:25:59.079 movement on us. They were not only doing business with 450 00:25:59.200 --> 00:26:04.160 Venezuela getting cheap oil from the but like also competing. 451 00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.559 I get the I hit mute. How long was I muted? 452 00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:17.279 Hopefully I wasn't muted that long. 453 00:27:17.519 --> 00:27:19.000 I didn't get you weren't muted at all? 454 00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.720 No, no, no, no, not to you. I accidentally hit 455 00:27:21.759 --> 00:27:25.279 the microphone buttons really sensitive, So was that MUTI her 456 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:27.680 just hopefully just a few seconds. But you want to 457 00:27:27.720 --> 00:27:29.440 repeat the last thing you said, Andrew, because they're going 458 00:27:29.480 --> 00:27:32.400 to think of all you censoring Andrew. Repeat the last 459 00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:32.839 thing you said. 460 00:27:34.920 --> 00:27:37.720 Jay Dyer is one of the most willing to debate 461 00:27:37.799 --> 00:27:40.119 men in the history of the world. So I'm not 462 00:27:40.200 --> 00:27:42.200 worried about being censored by Jay. 463 00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:45.119 The last thing I said, I think was just like 464 00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:46.279 you were saying that the. 465 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.599 American and Israeli Alliance has more than one motivation, right, 466 00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:52.160 you know, China, China Ahead. 467 00:27:51.960 --> 00:27:55.000 Group and the WF and Bill Gates. There's more than 468 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.599 one motivation there, all of them. 469 00:27:56.960 --> 00:28:01.000 They want to fuck over America. 470 00:28:01.240 --> 00:28:06.000 Yeah, I just I feel like we're not gonna fix 471 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:10.759 anything in America until we get out of the mind 472 00:28:10.799 --> 00:28:14.640 frame of thinking that the next president can fix things. 473 00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:18.640 In other words, until we figure out that we're actually 474 00:28:18.759 --> 00:28:22.960 run by you know, people at Builderberg Trilateral Commission, And 475 00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:26.039 I think there are wealthy banking elites and corporate elites 476 00:28:26.079 --> 00:28:29.160 that are not just Jewish, but there are also you know, 477 00:28:29.319 --> 00:28:31.720 APAC has a huge amount of influence on our foreign 478 00:28:31.720 --> 00:28:35.640 policy al Addelson, et cetera. So that's all a real problem. 479 00:28:36.240 --> 00:28:39.079 But for things to actually change I think we would 480 00:28:39.079 --> 00:28:43.559 have to move away from those kinds of influences in 481 00:28:43.599 --> 00:28:45.559 our government, which is now pretty much admitted, Like it's 482 00:28:45.559 --> 00:28:48.599 pretty much admitted that, yeah we do. Don't you think 483 00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:52.240 it's admitted that we do. Net and Yahoo's foreign policy. 484 00:28:54.079 --> 00:28:57.279 I think that last year when they wanted to keep 485 00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:00.960 attacking and Trump native turned jets around, it shows who's 486 00:29:01.000 --> 00:29:03.680 the big dog in the relationship. Israel is a vassal 487 00:29:03.720 --> 00:29:05.440 state of America, not the. 488 00:29:05.400 --> 00:29:06.240 Other way around. 489 00:29:06.359 --> 00:29:09.920 Well then why then, why was why have we seen 490 00:29:09.960 --> 00:29:14.079 a suppression of the discussion of uh, you know Epstein 491 00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:17.680 files being fully released prosecutions. I mean, do you do 492 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:21.079 you think that Epstein was Masade aligned? 493 00:29:22.400 --> 00:29:25.039 I think he was part of a four different intel Yeah, 494 00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:25.559 I agree with that. 495 00:29:25.640 --> 00:29:26.880 He's a big honey pot. 496 00:29:27.480 --> 00:29:31.920 Benefited the six, the French Intel, the CIA. 497 00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:32.880 And they agree with that. 498 00:29:33.559 --> 00:29:33.680 Uh. 499 00:29:34.839 --> 00:29:37.480 I think it was right joint effort. 500 00:29:38.359 --> 00:29:42.880 Yeah, but typically that joint effort tends to want and 501 00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:44.799 then you could have some disagreement. Like back in the 502 00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:49.160 era of say Kissinger and Brazenski, the establishment didn't always 503 00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:52.240 do everything that Israel wanted. But it seems like nowadays 504 00:29:52.880 --> 00:29:56.119 that there's less of that establishment tends to do more 505 00:29:56.119 --> 00:29:57.039 of what Israel wants. 506 00:29:59.240 --> 00:30:02.160 Maybe so, But I'll tell you this, I'm not concerned 507 00:30:02.200 --> 00:30:02.920 about Israel. 508 00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:06.119 They're not my first issue. I'm concerned about what's good 509 00:30:06.160 --> 00:30:06.839 for America. 510 00:30:06.960 --> 00:30:10.200 And you know, the whole discussion around Iran and Trump's 511 00:30:10.200 --> 00:30:12.079 administration this time around, it's. 512 00:30:11.920 --> 00:30:15.359 Like, if you look at it from its Trump helping America, 513 00:30:15.640 --> 00:30:17.279 the answer is he definitely is. 514 00:30:17.359 --> 00:30:19.559 And that's why I had that debate with Harrison. 515 00:30:19.440 --> 00:30:22.000 Because like it or not, like imperialism or not. 516 00:30:22.559 --> 00:30:26.200 The Chinese communists even on this app on the Twitter, 517 00:30:26.559 --> 00:30:29.960 they were crowing, it's gonna be the Chinese century, It's gonna. 518 00:30:29.720 --> 00:30:31.079 Be a multi pole of the world. 519 00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:34.000 The dollar won't be the world's deserve currency like they 520 00:30:34.000 --> 00:30:34.960 were bragging about this. 521 00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:36.599 Okay, and Trump changed the math. 522 00:30:36.759 --> 00:30:39.480 Well, how does Iran help that? 523 00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:40.359 Exactly? 524 00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.559 Well, first of all, the cheap oil that China was 525 00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:46.759 getting from Iran not there anymore. 526 00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:50.079 No more cheap Iranian oil. Same with venezuel As oil. 527 00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.759 No more. They're having to buy from US at higher prices. 528 00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:56.519 They're buying from US, So you have to understand, like 529 00:30:56.880 --> 00:31:00.119 their economy has been running on this cheap oil. So 530 00:31:00.240 --> 00:31:03.880 now instead of having slave labor and cheap oil. The 531 00:31:03.960 --> 00:31:06.079 math is changing for them so that it's not going. 532 00:31:05.960 --> 00:31:08.279 To be so cheap for them to outperform everybody in 533 00:31:08.319 --> 00:31:09.319 the production of goods. 534 00:31:09.400 --> 00:31:10.759 Okay, well, how is any of this? Okay? 535 00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:14.119 But hold on, so like, if let's grant that argument, 536 00:31:14.640 --> 00:31:17.160 I mean, how is cheap oil going to help America 537 00:31:17.640 --> 00:31:20.799 and really hurt damaged China from you know, not being 538 00:31:20.839 --> 00:31:23.440 able to get access to that If the real problem 539 00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:25.880 in America is the Fella reserve and that comes out 540 00:31:25.880 --> 00:31:27.400 of like the raw Child banking model. 541 00:31:28.240 --> 00:31:30.000 That's the other thing I wanted to say, Toy is 542 00:31:30.359 --> 00:31:34.319 instead of them having the world's reserve currency and crashing 543 00:31:34.359 --> 00:31:37.400 the dollar, which was their plan, the petro dollar is 544 00:31:37.400 --> 00:31:38.880 now going to live for a thousand years. 545 00:31:38.880 --> 00:31:40.119 The world's energy. 546 00:31:40.160 --> 00:31:42.519 Is going to be traded in dollars because the oil 547 00:31:42.640 --> 00:31:46.240 is in the US, in Venezuela, in Alberta, which is 548 00:31:46.279 --> 00:31:48.720 about to secede from Canada and do business. 549 00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:48.920 With the US. 550 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:50.440 Well, I disagree with you on that point. 551 00:31:50.519 --> 00:31:52.839 I don't think that the petro dollar is actually going 552 00:31:52.920 --> 00:31:55.880 to last one thousand years because any fiat currency, even 553 00:31:55.880 --> 00:32:01.200 if it's backed by supposedly oil, it's going to eventually collapse. 554 00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:05.400 We've already, for example, Biden, what destroyed the dollar in 555 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.839 terms of its purchasing power twenty percent alone under Biden 556 00:32:08.960 --> 00:32:12.400 during the koof period. And if you remember when Elon 557 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:15.279 was in there, I'm not pro Elon. I'm just saying 558 00:32:15.279 --> 00:32:18.799 when you say or, I'm not pro or anti Elon. 559 00:32:18.839 --> 00:32:20.839 I'm neutral on Elon. But I'm saying, when you look 560 00:32:20.880 --> 00:32:24.440 at when Dose went in and looked at the debt, 561 00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:26.559 you know, he came out with the conclusion and he 562 00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:28.119 could be wrong, but he came out with the conclusion 563 00:32:28.119 --> 00:32:31.359 though actually we can't fix the debt. So it's like, 564 00:32:31.640 --> 00:32:33.680 and by the way, why would we think that maybe 565 00:32:33.680 --> 00:32:35.359 you were exaggerating when you said a thousand years. I 566 00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.599 just thought that was funny, like a premillennial reign of 567 00:32:37.640 --> 00:32:38.279 Petro dollar. 568 00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:42.440 But uh, but I mean, I. 569 00:32:42.359 --> 00:32:44.160 Mean, I just don't understand how that's gonna I mean, 570 00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.319 the dollar was destroyed twenty percent purchasing power under Biden. 571 00:32:47.400 --> 00:32:49.559 How is Petro dollar going to prop that up? 572 00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:54.359 Yeah, we're totally inflated for sure. Again, the Chinese and 573 00:32:54.400 --> 00:32:56.279 you can listen to the commies all this said. They 574 00:32:56.279 --> 00:32:59.400 were all crowing that the world's reserve currency is going 575 00:32:59.400 --> 00:33:02.119 to be the U because the Saudi's they had been 576 00:33:02.160 --> 00:33:05.160 decreasing the percent of their trade the dollar and increasing 577 00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:07.799 their trade in the U won and China was getting 578 00:33:07.839 --> 00:33:11.680 this cheap oil from Iran and Venezuela and their economy 579 00:33:11.759 --> 00:33:16.200 was set to overtake hours. Now that's not the equation anymore. 580 00:33:16.279 --> 00:33:19.400 The petro dollar will rate, it will be supreme. You 581 00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:21.920 can say that all all field goes to zero. I 582 00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:24.920 understand the history of it. It's a good argument. But 583 00:33:25.039 --> 00:33:28.079 if all of the world's oil will be traded in dollars, 584 00:33:28.400 --> 00:33:30.559 you can call it a utility token, if that's how 585 00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.319 you want to put it for I know you love. 586 00:33:32.240 --> 00:33:35.039 A crypto like it's a utility token that will always 587 00:33:35.079 --> 00:33:35.680 have utility. 588 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:38.079 It's going on iveco currency. 589 00:33:38.160 --> 00:33:40.839 I love bitcoin, not crypto, and I don't think bitcoin 590 00:33:40.920 --> 00:33:41.920 is just the utility token. 591 00:33:41.920 --> 00:33:43.920 I think it's actually, you know, solid money. 592 00:33:43.920 --> 00:33:47.720 But okay, well, I just I don't that that argument 593 00:33:47.759 --> 00:33:49.960 doesn't seem very convincing to me. It seems like a 594 00:33:50.039 --> 00:33:54.359 very speculative line of argumentation. And I get that empires 595 00:33:54.400 --> 00:33:59.759 to operate this way historically with seizing resources. I just 596 00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:03.640 I still think that to me, that's not a strong 597 00:34:03.799 --> 00:34:08.079 enough argument as to why Trump is doing what he's doing. 598 00:34:08.159 --> 00:34:10.960 And you'll notice, if this was actually to help the 599 00:34:11.000 --> 00:34:13.800 country and Trump was doing the right thing, well, then 600 00:34:13.840 --> 00:34:17.199 why have all of the worst operatives come out who 601 00:34:17.199 --> 00:34:20.079 were the never trumpers who are now MAGA and they 602 00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:24.079 represent MAGA. And Trump talks like Mark Levins the greatest 603 00:34:24.159 --> 00:34:26.960 dude out there, and now all the people who criticized 604 00:34:27.039 --> 00:34:30.480 him on this war are now the worst dudes out here. 605 00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:34.239 So and again Milanya comes out basically saying the exact 606 00:34:34.320 --> 00:34:36.719 opposite of what Trump said, that no, actually we do 607 00:34:36.800 --> 00:34:39.679 need to release the rest of the Epstein fileser needs 608 00:34:39.679 --> 00:34:43.559 to be prosecutions. So I guess Milanya's not MAGA and 609 00:34:43.599 --> 00:34:45.679 she's dumb too. She's liked so we're all low IQ 610 00:34:45.840 --> 00:34:49.199 because we don't understand like the sixty six dimensional chess moves. 611 00:34:49.440 --> 00:34:50.840 To me, that just doesn't make sense. 612 00:34:51.880 --> 00:34:53.800 Well, I think he was very specific with who he 613 00:34:53.880 --> 00:34:57.559 called low IQ and at Tucker, for example, he had 614 00:34:57.599 --> 00:35:01.639 on some socialists and said that Christiana, he is a socialist. 615 00:35:01.800 --> 00:35:03.360 I'm pretty sure you don't agree with that. 616 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.840 And Tucker's had a number of other wild things that 617 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:08.159 he said and had said on the. 618 00:35:08.199 --> 00:35:11.599 Show, Well, every person hold on never Trumps. 619 00:35:12.199 --> 00:35:12.960 It was the first one. 620 00:35:12.960 --> 00:35:15.360 At the very first debate, she tried the knife Trumps 621 00:35:15.440 --> 00:35:18.800 with Rosie O'donnald question and he flipped it on it. 622 00:35:18.920 --> 00:35:21.880 Well, I'm not even talking about Meghan Kelly with the. 623 00:35:21.760 --> 00:35:24.960 Egyptian planes is low iq, that's a fact. And then 624 00:35:25.039 --> 00:35:27.239 Alex said that Trump should get twenty fifth and ended it, 625 00:35:27.280 --> 00:35:29.320 which I love Alex, but I mean he needs to 626 00:35:29.719 --> 00:35:30.559 really walk. 627 00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:31.239 All that crap back. 628 00:35:31.920 --> 00:35:35.280 Okay, So do you not think that APAK has a 629 00:35:35.280 --> 00:35:37.800 massive amount of influence on our foreign policy? 630 00:35:39.559 --> 00:35:42.280 I think it's overstated. APAK is an organization. If you 631 00:35:42.320 --> 00:35:45.119 want to say Israel rather than APAK, Israel has a 632 00:35:45.239 --> 00:35:46.119 very big influence. 633 00:35:48.000 --> 00:35:50.199 Well, I mean APA is one of the one of 634 00:35:50.199 --> 00:35:55.960 the entities that he uses. So like, yeah, I mean, uh, okay, 635 00:35:56.000 --> 00:36:01.840 what but did you not admit earlier that from oded 636 00:36:01.880 --> 00:36:04.119 Yunan all the way up through the Seven Nations Plan, 637 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:07.400 that is pretty much the same strategy that America has 638 00:36:07.400 --> 00:36:09.719 been constantly sort of roped into. 639 00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:14.840 Again, I think it's very different. The reason Trump goes 640 00:36:14.880 --> 00:36:17.760 to Iran is very different from the reason Bush. 641 00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:20.559 Goes to Iraq, and the way they conduct the war. 642 00:36:21.079 --> 00:36:24.199 Just why why would they hold on war? 643 00:36:24.400 --> 00:36:26.440 Is going to have us in boiled there for decades. 644 00:36:26.519 --> 00:36:28.199 Well, that's what he's. 645 00:36:27.960 --> 00:36:32.000 Doing, air strikes and he's doing a resource war versus 646 00:36:32.119 --> 00:36:34.519 What was the plan that that was. 647 00:36:34.519 --> 00:36:37.960 The same oil there? Well, it was the same motivations 648 00:36:38.000 --> 00:36:41.679 for all those wars was control of resources, strategic location 649 00:36:42.639 --> 00:36:45.400 I mean no, I mean a military and nels for 650 00:36:45.480 --> 00:36:48.119 complex rebuilding those countries. All of those things were part 651 00:36:48.159 --> 00:36:51.440 and parcel of all of those all those wars. 652 00:36:51.559 --> 00:36:52.880 That's not I think there's a. 653 00:36:52.920 --> 00:36:54.360 Very different plan from. 654 00:36:54.280 --> 00:36:57.039 We're going to control the world's oil under Trump versus 655 00:36:57.599 --> 00:37:01.639 Dick Cheney grifting money for Halibert and getting troops killed 656 00:37:01.679 --> 00:37:02.239 and wasted. 657 00:37:02.280 --> 00:37:04.360 No, it's the exact same, it's the exact same. 658 00:37:04.440 --> 00:37:05.440 No, it's not the same. 659 00:37:05.840 --> 00:37:06.760 Is it's No. 660 00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:10.159 The people behind Panak are the exact same neo conservatives 661 00:37:10.239 --> 00:37:13.320 or the exact same strategy as net Yahoo today. It's 662 00:37:13.440 --> 00:37:16.400 exact same liquid strategy. No different with you there at 663 00:37:16.679 --> 00:37:18.280 the R Then you admit my point. 664 00:37:18.159 --> 00:37:21.360 Ben Shapiro, want this now is the same that they 665 00:37:21.400 --> 00:37:22.840 would want it twenty years ago. 666 00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:24.559 I can Well, then that's meting my point. 667 00:37:24.599 --> 00:37:28.159 I'm saying that the reason it's happening in Iran, even 668 00:37:28.280 --> 00:37:31.920 even Bush didn't do Iran. The reason it's happening in 669 00:37:31.960 --> 00:37:34.480 Iran is because Trump is doing things for the benefit 670 00:37:34.519 --> 00:37:36.800 of America, not for the benefit of some other country. 671 00:37:37.199 --> 00:37:39.519 But again, I don't see how your argument is just 672 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:44.760 that Iran will somehow make uh the petro dollar last 673 00:37:44.760 --> 00:37:45.599 one thousand years. 674 00:37:46.039 --> 00:37:48.320 Go look at the maps. You could go on my 675 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:49.239 profile right. 676 00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:51.079 Now and look at all the pictures, all of the 677 00:37:51.159 --> 00:37:52.320 ships that have left. 678 00:37:52.320 --> 00:37:56.519 We have enough oil on America, we have enough oil 679 00:37:56.679 --> 00:37:56.880 in it. 680 00:37:57.119 --> 00:37:59.079 But we are the broker of oil in the world 681 00:37:59.199 --> 00:37:59.599 right now. 682 00:37:59.639 --> 00:38:01.239 We have a enough oil in the US that we 683 00:38:01.239 --> 00:38:02.960 don't even need any of those right we don't need 684 00:38:03.000 --> 00:38:05.440 Saudi oil. That was a deal broker by Kissinger to 685 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:11.039 make the US dependent upon a globalized monetary structure via Builderberg. 686 00:38:11.079 --> 00:38:14.159 That was all the nineteen seventies Carter Kissing Builderberg Era 687 00:38:14.280 --> 00:38:18.440 to strategize how to put the US into an international 688 00:38:19.159 --> 00:38:22.480 petro dollar situation. But there's enough oil in the US 689 00:38:22.559 --> 00:38:25.800 and our reserved and in our untapped areas that we 690 00:38:25.840 --> 00:38:27.880 wouldn't even need Iran's oil. 691 00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.559 So this is really just a I think it sounds like. 692 00:38:29.559 --> 00:38:33.039 You're rebranding it and you're saying, oh yeah, well, in 693 00:38:33.119 --> 00:38:36.920 the you know, Desert Storm and Operation Enduring Freedom and 694 00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:39.639 all this other stuff in the past, that was, you know, 695 00:38:39.760 --> 00:38:41.280 Israeli neocon strategy. 696 00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:42.039 This is not that. 697 00:38:42.280 --> 00:38:45.840 Because Bush didn't take the oil and didn't do Iran. Well, 698 00:38:45.840 --> 00:38:48.960 that's because there was enough opposition that he wasn't able to. 699 00:38:49.440 --> 00:38:51.920 But with Trump, they don't even need opposition. He just 700 00:38:51.960 --> 00:38:54.360 does it anyway, does whatever he wants. So I think 701 00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:57.239 that that's just that is not a consistent argument. It's 702 00:38:57.280 --> 00:38:59.800 exact same a Israeli foreign policy strategy all the way 703 00:38:59.800 --> 00:39:00.960 back to it, you know, on. 704 00:39:01.679 --> 00:39:02.920 Totally totally wrong. 705 00:39:03.039 --> 00:39:05.400 If you look at the consumption of oil in the 706 00:39:05.400 --> 00:39:08.440 world right now, it didn't flip to be America first 707 00:39:08.679 --> 00:39:10.000 when we were doing the Iraq war. 708 00:39:10.039 --> 00:39:12.679 That was not the situation. What just happened. 709 00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.039 I didn't argue that flipping the consumption of the world's 710 00:39:15.079 --> 00:39:18.920 oil from foreign to American domestic people are coming. 711 00:39:18.719 --> 00:39:21.440 Here to get oil. We are. We are in control 712 00:39:21.480 --> 00:39:23.920 of the world's energy market, and that's because of Trump. 713 00:39:25.519 --> 00:39:28.119 Okay, but none of that address the argument that I 714 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:31.440 made that it's the exact same neo con strategy that 715 00:39:31.519 --> 00:39:33.400 was that was essentially behind nine eleven. 716 00:39:35.360 --> 00:39:38.840 You're you're I think, conflating two things. I agree with 717 00:39:38.880 --> 00:39:42.280 you that the Neo cause and all those people, their 718 00:39:42.599 --> 00:39:45.199 premises and what they wanted is all the same. But 719 00:39:45.239 --> 00:39:48.280 Trump's motivation is different and the outcome is different. 720 00:39:48.440 --> 00:39:49.960 Well, which is why I said, you. 721 00:39:49.920 --> 00:39:52.320 Didn't see all the ships lining up to buy American 722 00:39:52.360 --> 00:39:53.480 oil during the Iraq War. 723 00:39:54.360 --> 00:39:57.000 There is a benefit to America. That's why Trump is 724 00:39:57.039 --> 00:39:57.360 doing this. 725 00:39:57.679 --> 00:40:01.760 Okay, again, I mean so if that was the case, 726 00:40:01.960 --> 00:40:07.000 then does it stand the reason that every perceived benefit 727 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:10.559 to America could then justify anything such as false flag 728 00:40:10.559 --> 00:40:11.800 events such as I mean, what. 729 00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:12.559 Nine to eleven? 730 00:40:12.599 --> 00:40:17.159 Could we now revision revise that as something that benefits America? 731 00:40:18.079 --> 00:40:18.239 No? 732 00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:20.440 First of all, not only was nine to eleven evil, 733 00:40:20.719 --> 00:40:23.320 but it wasn't done for the benefit of America. 734 00:40:23.440 --> 00:40:24.559 I don't even understand. 735 00:40:24.599 --> 00:40:28.880 No, No, I'm saying. What I'm saying is, by your line 736 00:40:28.880 --> 00:40:33.280 of reasoning, if you could justify a false flag or 737 00:40:33.320 --> 00:40:37.440 any foreign intervention by quote what benefits America, then wouldn't 738 00:40:37.440 --> 00:40:39.639 anything wouldn't you open up Pandora's kouchi? 739 00:40:40.239 --> 00:40:44.280 No, So, when the Iranians had American troops on their 740 00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.480 knees on an American vessel under Obama. 741 00:40:47.679 --> 00:40:50.239 That right, there was enough cause for war. These people 742 00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:51.480 aren't at war with us. 743 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.840 They declare it all the time, and China is the. 744 00:40:54.880 --> 00:40:57.199 Delivery system for their weapons systems. They're not going to 745 00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:00.639 do open warfare with us. They're doing sneaky like trying 746 00:41:00.639 --> 00:41:01.679 to destroy our foods. 747 00:41:02.119 --> 00:41:06.880 That wasn't the argument I made. No, that wasn't the 748 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.960 argument I made. I said, if you're going to argue 749 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:14.239 that Trump's motivations to do this for the good of 750 00:41:14.280 --> 00:41:18.599 America allows for these types of strikes and whatnot, then 751 00:41:18.719 --> 00:41:23.000 could we then argue that any operation that is under 752 00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:26.960 the ages of supposedly benefiting America could then be justified, 753 00:41:27.039 --> 00:41:32.599 including false flag events including you know why, absolutely killing bad. 754 00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:33.840 Guys that are in it is not the same as 755 00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:35.320 killing American civilians. 756 00:41:35.360 --> 00:41:36.360 Only not the same thing. 757 00:41:37.800 --> 00:41:40.039 No, no, no, I said, any justice. 758 00:41:40.039 --> 00:41:43.360 Well, but well, hold on, though, if it had benefited America, 759 00:41:43.400 --> 00:41:45.679 then why not sacrifice some American lives? 760 00:41:46.679 --> 00:41:47.440 No, that's evil. 761 00:41:48.199 --> 00:41:50.159 Well, then the Iran war would be evil because some 762 00:41:50.320 --> 00:41:52.480 American lives will be lost in the Iran War. 763 00:41:53.400 --> 00:41:56.239 No, that's defending yourself against the nation at war with 764 00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:58.039 you is not evil because some of your soldiers. 765 00:41:58.039 --> 00:41:59.360 No, No, it doesn't matter what. 766 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:01.840 It doesn't matter if you recast it as defense, because 767 00:42:01.920 --> 00:42:06.840 the argument is about justification of foreign strikes and foreign operations. 768 00:42:06.840 --> 00:42:11.320 And you said if it benefits America, And then I argued, basically, well, 769 00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.719 what if losing American lives also benefits America? Why would 770 00:42:14.760 --> 00:42:17.280 it not still be beneficial and justified. 771 00:42:18.039 --> 00:42:21.519 Well, the example you gave was murdering our own people 772 00:42:21.599 --> 00:42:25.960 in cold blood versus defending ourselves in a righteous war 773 00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:31.039 against enemies that are literally trying to poison and kill us. Yeah, 774 00:42:31.079 --> 00:42:33.800 there's a very big difference, is very obvious. 775 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:38.119 But what I'm saying is, yeah, I understand that you 776 00:42:38.199 --> 00:42:41.079 have there's a principal self defense. What I'm asking is, 777 00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:45.960 if the justification is what benefits America, then you've moved 778 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.719 the goalpost to say that unless it's you know, the 779 00:42:48.800 --> 00:42:52.000 loss of American lives in self defense. So it's beginning 780 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:54.840 to be arbitrary because what if, let's say, for the 781 00:42:54.880 --> 00:42:59.400 sake of argument, a false flag event on American soil 782 00:42:59.679 --> 00:43:03.800 that kills a thousand people, but it has the net 783 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:08.320 effect of turning all of the world against Iran and 784 00:43:08.360 --> 00:43:11.320 then Iran collapses and we win. Could you not then 785 00:43:11.440 --> 00:43:16.079 argue that that was a justified approach given the original 786 00:43:16.599 --> 00:43:19.199 argument that the ends justify the means. 787 00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.960 Basically, this hypothetical has nothing to do with reality. 788 00:43:23.000 --> 00:43:25.079 Oh, come on, dude, it has everything to do with reality, 789 00:43:25.119 --> 00:43:27.679 because that's exactly what. Come on, Andrew, That's exactly what 790 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:28.679 nine to eleven was about. 791 00:43:29.679 --> 00:43:33.440 No, but I'm saying nine to eleven in Iraq different 792 00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:34.920 from Iran and Trump. 793 00:43:36.079 --> 00:43:38.239 That's not relevant to the argument I made to you. 794 00:43:38.280 --> 00:43:40.840 I'm talking about the ethical line of argument in terms 795 00:43:40.880 --> 00:43:41.599 of justification. 796 00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:45.239 That's not what I said. 797 00:43:45.960 --> 00:43:49.920 No, No, no, listen, I'm saying your line of ethical 798 00:43:50.039 --> 00:43:55.320 reasoning would also seem to justify something like nine to 799 00:43:55.360 --> 00:43:59.480 eleven if you could show that it benefits America in 800 00:43:59.519 --> 00:44:00.000 the long run. 801 00:44:00.880 --> 00:44:03.320 No, it's still not ethical to murder of Americans like 802 00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:04.960 us going after as oil. 803 00:44:05.239 --> 00:44:08.199 Then you can't make the argument. That is, then you 804 00:44:08.199 --> 00:44:11.920 can't make the argument you made. So you just refuted yourself. No, 805 00:44:12.519 --> 00:44:14.719 you said that it benefits America in terms of the 806 00:44:14.719 --> 00:44:15.480 petro dollar. 807 00:44:15.519 --> 00:44:17.599 Then it's it's that's why Trump's doing it. 808 00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.079 Yes, that's why he's doing it, but it's also a 809 00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:21.880 righteous war. 810 00:44:22.119 --> 00:44:23.719 Like there are two things happening. 811 00:44:23.840 --> 00:44:27.119 It's both beneficial to America and it's righteous they're at 812 00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:27.800 war with us. 813 00:44:29.679 --> 00:44:32.360 Okay, well, I appreciate the That was a great exchange. 814 00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:32.599 Andrew. 815 00:44:32.679 --> 00:44:36.599 Appreciate you calling in absolutely, Andrew. 816 00:44:36.639 --> 00:44:37.000 You're good. 817 00:44:37.039 --> 00:44:39.320 You're a good debater, a fun guy to talk to, 818 00:44:40.039 --> 00:44:43.480 and uh, welcome back anytime. We are going to move 819 00:44:43.480 --> 00:44:44.800 on because I do want to get thank you, Andrew. 820 00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.280 Feel free to call back, but we're going to move 821 00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:52.119 on to topics like I do want to get to 822 00:44:52.119 --> 00:44:54.360 the redeem Zoomer thing. I don't think we we haven't 823 00:44:54.360 --> 00:44:56.559 gotten to that yet, and I did promise people that 824 00:44:56.559 --> 00:45:01.159 we would talk about this. I need some water though 825 00:45:01.159 --> 00:45:10.000 I'm so thirsty. People have sense that I'm tired, and 826 00:45:10.039 --> 00:45:11.840 they know that it's that now is the time to 827 00:45:11.880 --> 00:45:14.519 call in and get me. I'm joking, by the way, 828 00:45:14.960 --> 00:45:20.000 he's brosey, what's something, Hey? 829 00:45:20.400 --> 00:45:21.000 Take you hear me? 830 00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:23.960 Yeah? 831 00:45:23.960 --> 00:45:24.360 What's up? 832 00:45:25.119 --> 00:45:25.360 Hey? 833 00:45:25.440 --> 00:45:28.280 So yeah, all right, let me preface this, but I'm 834 00:45:28.360 --> 00:45:30.639 I'm actually I don't have that much time, so I'm 835 00:45:30.639 --> 00:45:31.679 gonna try and make it quick. 836 00:45:32.519 --> 00:45:33.679 I'm a prefaces by. 837 00:45:33.559 --> 00:45:38.400 Saying I've been following Andrew longer than I don't maybe 838 00:45:38.440 --> 00:45:42.760 like ninety five percent of the people that are crucible members, 839 00:45:42.800 --> 00:45:49.119 subscribers or whatever like currently been following him. Says that, 840 00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:51.920 And to be fair, if kind have always been more 841 00:45:51.960 --> 00:45:54.159 of a Rachel supporter than Andrew because. 842 00:45:55.360 --> 00:45:56.679 Because of the Trump issue. 843 00:45:57.039 --> 00:46:00.920 But what I'm about to say this, this just it 844 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:03.679 necessarily does include Andrew. And I don't want to be 845 00:46:03.719 --> 00:46:06.760 disrespectful because, like I said, I've always been a big. 846 00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:07.800 Fan of him and I still will be. 847 00:46:09.280 --> 00:46:12.239 These people are these people are slaves to him, just 848 00:46:12.360 --> 00:46:14.440 like he's slaves to Israel. 849 00:46:14.880 --> 00:46:15.920 And it's sad as hell. 850 00:46:16.000 --> 00:46:19.679 Man, I don't understand, like when you brought up the 851 00:46:20.599 --> 00:46:24.519 Builderberg and Yolkan folks being behind what happened back in 852 00:46:24.559 --> 00:46:26.840 the seventies and it's still be the exact same people 853 00:46:26.880 --> 00:46:29.880 now and he can seize that, but then still continues 854 00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.239 to argue it's I mean, I just I just don't 855 00:46:32.280 --> 00:46:34.480 see how at. 856 00:46:34.320 --> 00:46:37.480 This point, like you can't reason that he's. 857 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:39.679 Just a what I'm not gonna say, I don't want 858 00:46:39.679 --> 00:46:42.400 to get your stream taken down. I don't understand how 859 00:46:42.519 --> 00:46:44.760 they can't piece together that he's just a k I. 860 00:46:44.719 --> 00:46:48.559 K slave and it is. There's just no more argumentation 861 00:46:48.679 --> 00:46:49.119 for it. Man. 862 00:46:49.159 --> 00:46:53.320 I've got to be as as calm and respectful with 863 00:46:53.440 --> 00:46:56.639 other like crucible chat members that I interact with on 864 00:46:56.679 --> 00:46:58.599 the timeline whatever. And you know, I'll go back and 865 00:46:58.679 --> 00:47:01.679 forth with him. I mean at this at this point, 866 00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:05.960 I just don't choose to see anyway to to like 867 00:47:06.039 --> 00:47:10.079 reason and I'm actually I'm to take a like a 868 00:47:10.199 --> 00:47:12.880 few months hiatus away from this dam up for this 869 00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:15.519 specific issue. None of the p s A stuff, this 870 00:47:15.639 --> 00:47:17.639 other stuff that's been going on has actually angered me. 871 00:47:18.000 --> 00:47:21.440 It's just this. I cannot keep a composure. 872 00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:24.800 When talking about Trump with these absolute fucking retards like 873 00:47:25.239 --> 00:47:28.000 his dick is so far down their throats that they 874 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:29.239 just cannot seem. 875 00:47:29.000 --> 00:47:31.320 To reason this. It's sad as ill man. 876 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:34.760 Well, I mean, you know, it's we can have disagreements 877 00:47:34.800 --> 00:47:39.599 with uh, you know, our fellow people politically speaking, because 878 00:47:39.599 --> 00:47:40.559 that's just gonna happen. 879 00:47:41.280 --> 00:47:43.440 And uh, you know, I. 880 00:47:43.440 --> 00:47:45.039 Would like I want to I'd like to see this 881 00:47:45.119 --> 00:47:48.639 debate that Andrew's gonna do with Owen Shroyer speaking of 882 00:47:48.639 --> 00:47:51.199 old and Troyer. I tried to get Owen to come 883 00:47:51.199 --> 00:47:55.480 debate Catholicism because Owen is saying that he's a uh, 884 00:47:55.760 --> 00:47:59.800 he's like putting up templar memes like he's a templar, Like, dude, 885 00:47:59.800 --> 00:48:00.199 come on. 886 00:48:00.679 --> 00:48:07.599 But Rachel would like to say, so what's up, Rachel? Yeah, 887 00:48:08.960 --> 00:48:09.400 how you doing? 888 00:48:09.639 --> 00:48:09.840 Yeah? 889 00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:13.159 I just wanted to jump in for a quick step 890 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:14.440 because I. 891 00:48:14.039 --> 00:48:17.039 Like, I understand a lot of people's frustration with the 892 00:48:17.079 --> 00:48:18.119 a's position. 893 00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:22.920 And Asia Browsey don't feel bad. 894 00:48:23.079 --> 00:48:24.400 We get it, you know, and you don't. 895 00:48:24.599 --> 00:48:25.760 Andrew always says you don't. 896 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:28.480 Have to agree with him on everything, you know, But 897 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:30.280 Andrew is a. 898 00:48:30.239 --> 00:48:34.400 Straight politics Scott he is. He's not. 899 00:48:35.880 --> 00:48:39.440 Doing He's not operating in the same way that a 900 00:48:39.440 --> 00:48:42.079 lot of other people in the space are, like, even 901 00:48:42.079 --> 00:48:44.039 differently from how I am and how jam does. 902 00:48:44.639 --> 00:48:47.840 And from Andrew's perspective, just the. 903 00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:52.119 Fact that Trump got border crossings to zero, that he's 904 00:48:52.199 --> 00:48:57.039 made net zero migration a federal policy, the fact that 905 00:48:57.239 --> 00:49:00.400 Roe v. Wade was under overturned under just this is 906 00:49:00.400 --> 00:49:03.880 that he appointed. These are huge domestic victories that we 907 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:06.920 would not have gotten without Trump being in office. Yeah, 908 00:49:06.960 --> 00:49:09.800 he doesn't think, he doesn't have pumps dick. 909 00:49:09.679 --> 00:49:10.400 Down his throat. 910 00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:14.039 Well, and Alex makes think he's a good dude. 911 00:49:14.320 --> 00:49:15.840 Alex makes those same arguments. 912 00:49:16.960 --> 00:49:18.079 What's that I said? 913 00:49:18.119 --> 00:49:21.440 Alex makes the exact same argument that that Andrew just said. 914 00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:21.760 There. 915 00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:24.039 But and I've always been an issue as person. That's 916 00:49:24.079 --> 00:49:26.960 why I never jumped on a team like, oh, I'm 917 00:49:27.000 --> 00:49:29.679 on team Trump. Well, I can support the things that 918 00:49:29.719 --> 00:49:32.440 Trump campaigned on. I agree with most of what he 919 00:49:32.559 --> 00:49:35.119 was campaigning on, and then I can just simply say 920 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:37.960 I disagree with the Rand situation, I disagree with warp speed, 921 00:49:38.360 --> 00:49:41.159 I disagree with you know a couple other you know, 922 00:49:41.199 --> 00:49:43.880 Epstein thing. There's there's like, you know, three four or 923 00:49:43.960 --> 00:49:48.039 five issues that I'll disagree with Trump on, but then 924 00:49:48.119 --> 00:49:53.280 I appreciate, pre appreciate the other things like you're saying, yeah, yeah. 925 00:49:53.320 --> 00:49:57.079 And from Andrew's perspective, he says, this whole time, politics 926 00:49:57.199 --> 00:50:00.440 is dirty. It's nasty, sure, And if you're hoping, is 927 00:50:00.440 --> 00:50:01.119 it hoping that. 928 00:50:01.199 --> 00:50:03.360 Anybody you elect is going to. 929 00:50:03.320 --> 00:50:05.840 Be like on your side. 930 00:50:05.519 --> 00:50:07.679 And you can on their team and they're going to 931 00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:08.400 be a good No. 932 00:50:08.639 --> 00:50:12.840 He always sees it as a political strategy of how 933 00:50:12.840 --> 00:50:15.199 can we get the person in who's going to help 934 00:50:15.280 --> 00:50:19.679 us the most and combat the progressive left as much 935 00:50:19.719 --> 00:50:23.559 as possible, So like, from his perspective, the Trump presidency 936 00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:25.800 overall was still successful. 937 00:50:26.360 --> 00:50:28.800 But of course there's stuff that Trump's done that Andrew 938 00:50:28.880 --> 00:50:30.239 doesn't like and he doesn't agree with. 939 00:50:30.400 --> 00:50:33.159 So it's not a matter of being like some kind 940 00:50:33.199 --> 00:50:36.800 of diehard Trump person that you just have to, you know, 941 00:50:36.960 --> 00:50:39.800 suck it up and say, well, I love everything Daddy 942 00:50:39.800 --> 00:50:40.559 Trump does. 943 00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:41.840 You know, it's not like that. 944 00:50:41.800 --> 00:50:43.360 It's real politics. 945 00:50:44.559 --> 00:50:45.360 Just overall. 946 00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:49.079 He feels like had Kamala gotten in, or had Biden 947 00:50:49.199 --> 00:50:52.599 gotten a second term, or had Hillary Clinton one, but 948 00:50:52.679 --> 00:50:56.400 you'd be having all these same problems more. 949 00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:58.840 Than likely with Iran and other things, But you would have. 950 00:50:58.800 --> 00:51:03.480 Had like the COVID the like with the climate lockdowns. 951 00:51:03.559 --> 00:51:06.079 You'd have more feminism we've had art, you'd have harder 952 00:51:06.159 --> 00:51:09.519 left stuff. The trans agenda would probably still be moving. 953 00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:11.519 Like he's just saying, out of. 954 00:51:11.440 --> 00:51:14.559 The two things, this is what it is. And nobody 955 00:51:14.760 --> 00:51:16.440 likes the American political system. 956 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:19.079 I don't think there's anyone at this point who thinks 957 00:51:19.280 --> 00:51:23.159 our right left Republican Democrats, red team versus Blue Team 958 00:51:23.360 --> 00:51:25.119 Shenanigans are ideal. 959 00:51:25.199 --> 00:51:26.079 Nobody likes it. 960 00:51:27.039 --> 00:51:29.119 Well, we're stuck with it for right. 961 00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.559 Now and within the system's sucking right now. 962 00:51:32.039 --> 00:51:33.239 That's kind of how Ander sees it. 963 00:51:33.320 --> 00:51:36.440 Yeah, not to speak for him, but yeah, well I 964 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:37.719 think I think you. 965 00:51:37.760 --> 00:51:39.239 Guys will like destroyer debate. 966 00:51:39.360 --> 00:51:42.480 I think he's got some some arguments planned for that 967 00:51:42.639 --> 00:51:43.280 that people. 968 00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:43.679 Won't see coming. 969 00:51:43.840 --> 00:51:45.679 Yeah, we probably need to we need to like live 970 00:51:45.760 --> 00:51:48.599 stream that and or like a car or review or 971 00:51:48.679 --> 00:51:51.960 react to that. I'm very interested in it. But also, uh, 972 00:51:52.000 --> 00:51:55.239 you know, I think Andrew tends to be a real 973 00:51:55.400 --> 00:51:58.400 politic type of guy. So he's looking at the absolute 974 00:51:58.480 --> 00:52:03.000 reality of the situation. And you know, the way politics 975 00:52:03.079 --> 00:52:06.880 works is that it's always compromised. No politician ever, I've 976 00:52:06.960 --> 00:52:10.519 never seen a politician actually do what they campaigned on ever. 977 00:52:11.440 --> 00:52:13.920 So you're gonna get these if you're lucky. 978 00:52:13.960 --> 00:52:17.800 If you get that's a really good that's a really 979 00:52:17.840 --> 00:52:18.840 good candidate. 980 00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:19.519 If they do have the right. 981 00:52:21.239 --> 00:52:28.079 Yeah, So Andrew talked talked to owen Foyer, like they 982 00:52:28.159 --> 00:52:29.039 had a phone call. 983 00:52:29.320 --> 00:52:33.079 A few days ago. They're they're pals, they get along. 984 00:52:33.000 --> 00:52:33.920 They are not enemies. 985 00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.239 They're not going to hate each other after this or 986 00:52:36.360 --> 00:52:37.000 anything like that. 987 00:52:37.280 --> 00:52:39.159 So I think it'll be a. 988 00:52:39.159 --> 00:52:45.039 Really good, really productive right That sounds awesome. Yeah, appreciate that. 989 00:52:45.079 --> 00:52:47.760 Anything else you want to leave us with, you're welcome 990 00:52:47.800 --> 00:52:48.119 to say. 991 00:52:48.039 --> 00:52:52.000 If you want, no other than Andrew and I have 992 00:52:52.199 --> 00:52:56.280 a whole bunch of debates coming up. We have the 993 00:52:56.800 --> 00:53:00.920 Shoyer versus Wilson debate the next day that I'm debating 994 00:53:00.960 --> 00:53:01.719 Brian Shapiro. 995 00:53:01.880 --> 00:53:04.159 Everyone, that'll be fun. 996 00:53:04.840 --> 00:53:06.480 Okay, Yeah, we're going. 997 00:53:06.480 --> 00:53:08.599 To debate seminism. I don't know why he wants to 998 00:53:08.679 --> 00:53:10.360 do that to himself, right, Hey. 999 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:12.159 You know, I'll do it. 1000 00:53:12.559 --> 00:53:13.039 I'm game. 1001 00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.119 And then of course we have Debate Time eight coming up. 1002 00:53:16.679 --> 00:53:19.960 There's a lot, so everybody go get tickets for those things. 1003 00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:20.960 Awesome. 1004 00:53:21.719 --> 00:53:25.079 I messaged James, I'd like to be involved in future 1005 00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:27.159 debate cons if you if you'd have me, I'd like 1006 00:53:27.239 --> 00:53:29.440 to be involved in some some level. 1007 00:53:30.639 --> 00:53:32.480 I'm if you could put it, we'll get a word 1008 00:53:32.519 --> 00:53:32.840 in for me. 1009 00:53:33.639 --> 00:53:35.719 I think. By the way, I have a couple. Uh 1010 00:53:37.199 --> 00:53:40.440 we're working on a Protestant pastor who wants to debate 1011 00:53:40.519 --> 00:53:44.280 me on modern day debate. I forget the pastor's name, 1012 00:53:44.320 --> 00:53:46.280 but he wants to do a sola scriptura. That'll be 1013 00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:49.519 coming up. And then I'm supposed to have another debate 1014 00:53:50.280 --> 00:53:56.480 with Captain to crap rock. I forget when that might 1015 00:53:56.519 --> 00:53:59.000 be this week too. I can't remember what guys remember 1016 00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:05.400 that this weekend will be the live in person Freemason debate. 1017 00:54:05.440 --> 00:54:08.559 I'll be debating Chase Geyser, also of Info War's fame, 1018 00:54:09.119 --> 00:54:13.519 and his freemason buddy, will be debating whether. 1019 00:54:13.360 --> 00:54:15.519 A Christian can be a Freemason. So that's gonna be 1020 00:54:15.559 --> 00:54:16.039 a lot of fun. 1021 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:20.840 Jacob says. If you look at wiki, there's an article 1022 00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.000 on Savac which is Iranian intelligence torture. 1023 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:25.000 Cee. 1024 00:54:25.039 --> 00:54:28.320 I am Asad trained the Shaw's secret police. 1025 00:54:28.480 --> 00:54:30.360 I'm aware of that. I've read some books on that. 1026 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:34.000 We did a coudetad to their democracy. 1027 00:54:34.159 --> 00:54:34.840 I've done many. 1028 00:54:34.719 --> 00:54:38.599 Podcasts on the overthrow of Mozadek and the install installment 1029 00:54:38.679 --> 00:54:42.840 of the Shaw. I've read several books on that, and 1030 00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:47.599 we've also talked about on my channel the US propping 1031 00:54:47.719 --> 00:54:53.880 up and making alliances with the Ayahtola. Originally they had 1032 00:54:53.920 --> 00:54:57.280 to deal with the Iatola Kashawnee. After the Shaw didn't work, 1033 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:00.880 they immediately made a deal British intelligence and the CIA 1034 00:55:01.039 --> 00:55:04.000 did with the Iatola Kashawani and he didn't work very well, 1035 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.880 and then we got Iatola Kamani, and there were backdoor 1036 00:55:06.920 --> 00:55:09.599 deals with Iatola Kamani too, and this actually ties into 1037 00:55:09.800 --> 00:55:11.559 Banana up the butts one hundred dollars. 1038 00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:14.679 Super chat, he says, Andrew Meyers confused. 1039 00:55:14.760 --> 00:55:17.960 We overthrew Mosedekt, which eventually led to the rainy regime 1040 00:55:17.960 --> 00:55:18.559 that we currently have. 1041 00:55:18.679 --> 00:55:20.480 That's correct, That led to the Iatolas. 1042 00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:23.880 This created the Petro doll We created the petro dollar 1043 00:55:23.920 --> 00:55:26.559 system so that we have a reason to have foreign 1044 00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:28.079 interest and to intervene globally. 1045 00:55:28.119 --> 00:55:29.800 That's exactly what I was saying about Kissinger. 1046 00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:33.639 Kissinger engineered this at Bilderberg in the late seventies, and 1047 00:55:33.719 --> 00:55:37.719 that's written about in multiple books. Two or three William 1048 00:55:37.800 --> 00:55:44.480 Endoll books cover this. I believe Daniel Esslin's Bilderbergberg book 1049 00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:47.840 covers this as well, which I'm meant to get to. 1050 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:52.599 And that's how we get to Bilderberg today is through 1051 00:55:53.360 --> 00:56:03.159 this indirect route of the Petro dollar. Okay, So Daniel 1052 00:56:03.239 --> 00:56:06.519 Esselin's excellent classic book from my publisher, Trying Day is 1053 00:56:07.039 --> 00:56:08.679 the Bilderberg Group. And by the way, I just did 1054 00:56:08.679 --> 00:56:11.920 a new interview with Daniel Esslin. It was about three 1055 00:56:11.960 --> 00:56:14.239 weeks ago, and he said he's going to put it 1056 00:56:14.360 --> 00:56:16.320 up very soon, but I still haven't seen it up yet, 1057 00:56:16.360 --> 00:56:19.159 So look for my new interview with Daniel Eshlin. 1058 00:56:19.199 --> 00:56:20.239 His channel has grown quite a bit. 1059 00:56:20.239 --> 00:56:22.199 I think is three four five hundred thousand do now 1060 00:56:22.239 --> 00:56:24.840 on YouTube, so that should be a good I think 1061 00:56:24.840 --> 00:56:27.360 we did about an hour long podcast on Epstein and 1062 00:56:27.400 --> 00:56:31.760 a bunch of other attendant issues. But the Kissinger really 1063 00:56:31.920 --> 00:56:35.599 is the one that locked us into at I think 1064 00:56:35.639 --> 00:56:40.159 the behest of the Rockefellers and others. Obviously, the petro 1065 00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:43.079 dollar system that gives us as banana up the butt 1066 00:56:43.159 --> 00:56:47.239 correctly says a reason to have all of these foreign 1067 00:56:47.400 --> 00:56:50.519 interests to intervene globally. So, in other words, if the 1068 00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:56.760 US has its own massive strategic oil tap that it 1069 00:56:56.880 --> 00:57:01.440 doesn't need all of these other global oil sources, which 1070 00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:04.800 is true, well then we don't need to have all 1071 00:57:04.840 --> 00:57:09.119 these foreign involvements. But Kissinger realized, well, if we are 1072 00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:13.719 artificially dependent upon all of these other countries, we now 1073 00:57:13.840 --> 00:57:18.400 have a necessitated globalization situation, which provides the excuse for 1074 00:57:19.119 --> 00:57:22.880 the very things that Andrew Meyer was arguing. So I 1075 00:57:23.000 --> 00:57:24.880 agree with you and up the butt, and I think 1076 00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:29.079 that Andrew's argument at this point falls apart. And that's 1077 00:57:29.119 --> 00:57:31.840 what I was telling him about Kissinger and Builderberg in 1078 00:57:31.880 --> 00:57:34.719 the nineteen seventies. And he admitted that, but he said, 1079 00:57:34.719 --> 00:57:36.960 what it is different now because Trump is doing that 1080 00:57:37.119 --> 00:57:41.760 for America. Well, I'm not sure I buy that argument, 1081 00:57:41.880 --> 00:57:45.400 but it's an interesting line of argument. Darth five dollars says, 1082 00:57:46.320 --> 00:57:52.320 I absolutely minded I mindedly scrolled past Jay's notifications like 1083 00:57:52.400 --> 00:57:55.559 three times. Now, well, then you owe me more super chats. 1084 00:57:55.880 --> 00:58:00.760 How's that, Zach? I think I did this in earlier 1085 00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:01.119 it says. 1086 00:58:01.280 --> 00:58:03.239 This is one hundred and fifty nine dollars says Christ 1087 00:58:03.280 --> 00:58:07.480 has risen happy Pasca, blessed, Pasco, thank man. Indeed, he 1088 00:58:07.639 --> 00:58:13.239 is appreciate that I'm slow today, you guys, because again, 1089 00:58:13.719 --> 00:58:20.760 we drove back at three in the morning. I probably 1090 00:58:20.760 --> 00:58:22.519 should have stayed at a hotel, but I don't know why. 1091 00:58:22.519 --> 00:58:24.559 I just thought, now we'll just drive back. I actually 1092 00:58:24.679 --> 00:58:30.400 wasn't thinking about you know, Pasca being I mean, Roku 1093 00:58:30.480 --> 00:58:33.920 or Pasca. You're not leaving church until freaking four in 1094 00:58:33.920 --> 00:58:36.679 the morning, dude, So I should have thought about that. 1095 00:58:36.840 --> 00:58:42.920 But dire unfiltered five dollars. Last week, I saw a 1096 00:58:42.960 --> 00:58:46.840 bunch of new Catholic converts and every video show showed 1097 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.840 baptisms by sprinkling. Wasn't this never normally used in the 1098 00:58:50.880 --> 00:58:53.639 first thousand years. Yeah, My understanding is that it was 1099 00:58:53.760 --> 00:58:58.559 pretty universally you know, dunking, and really there would just 1100 00:58:58.639 --> 00:59:06.000 be maybe economia for aspersion, but over time aspersion, you know, unfortunately, 1101 00:59:06.119 --> 00:59:08.840 economia ends up sometimes becoming the norm, and that's where 1102 00:59:08.840 --> 00:59:14.920 you get these irregular disciplines that become you know, practice, 1103 00:59:15.079 --> 00:59:19.039 which is unfortunate. But you know, the same thing happened 1104 00:59:19.079 --> 00:59:22.360 in Serbia. You know, for many centuries in Serbia. Serbia 1105 00:59:22.480 --> 00:59:25.440 was probably under you know, papist influence and they did 1106 00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:29.400 aspersion for for a long time. So it's not ideal, 1107 00:59:29.639 --> 00:59:31.960 but I think God's grace, you know, makes up for 1108 00:59:32.079 --> 00:59:37.719 what's lacking. But that is an interesting question. And there 1109 00:59:37.800 --> 00:59:41.679 is a scholarly text that I think is out of print, 1110 00:59:42.159 --> 00:59:46.280 and it was Father Daniel of the Antiochian Church in Indiana, 1111 00:59:46.280 --> 00:59:48.960 a good friend of ours, and he recommended me this 1112 00:59:49.159 --> 00:59:50.760 this book. He said that this is the book that 1113 00:59:50.840 --> 00:59:56.280 convinced him to become Orthodox. Was just the church of 1114 00:59:56.360 --> 01:00:00.239 the first seven centuries, the way they practiced baptist in 1115 01:00:00.280 --> 01:00:07.280 Paido Communion He argued that that was the thing that 1116 01:00:07.440 --> 01:00:09.960 convinced him, like, just on the sacraments alone, he's like 1117 01:00:10.000 --> 01:00:13.239 the only church doing it the way that the universal 1118 01:00:13.320 --> 01:00:17.800 East and West Church did it in the first seven centuries. Okay, 1119 01:00:17.920 --> 01:00:22.159 ban this idiot, this is a retard. Here are you 1120 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.199 getting these dumb bots in the chat? 1121 01:00:27.760 --> 01:00:28.039 All right? 1122 01:00:28.119 --> 01:00:30.440 Let me make sure I didn't miss the super chair here. 1123 01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:40.079 Yes, I'm gonna do redeem zoomer you guys, Darth grumpy, 1124 01:00:40.159 --> 01:00:44.719 welcome to the members. Well, Emmanuel says, for fifty Mexican pesos, 1125 01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:48.880 they say honey, lemon and cinnamon might help you. Don't 1126 01:00:48.920 --> 01:00:52.039 blame me if you start seeing shadow twerkers. Well, I 1127 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:53.880 was driving at four in the Morning's why I saw 1128 01:00:53.920 --> 01:00:58.000 shadow people talking. But that might have also been because 1129 01:00:58.039 --> 01:01:02.119 I was up in the club. Kievan rus five dollars. 1130 01:01:02.719 --> 01:01:03.440 To add to the. 1131 01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:07.320 Petro dollar argument, it's also to newter an enemy at 1132 01:01:07.360 --> 01:01:11.079 a time that adversaries are building their militaries. This will 1133 01:01:11.119 --> 01:01:14.679 solidify US dominance. None of this is going to matter 1134 01:01:14.719 --> 01:01:15.679 if you don't fix the dollar. 1135 01:01:15.800 --> 01:01:17.880 Dude, this is all retrded. I'm sorry, I just don't 1136 01:01:17.880 --> 01:01:18.159 believe it. 1137 01:01:18.960 --> 01:01:22.119 Even if that's even if that's Trump's motivation to solidify 1138 01:01:22.280 --> 01:01:27.519 US dominance. I mean, if we just keep sliding away 1139 01:01:27.719 --> 01:01:31.440 with inflation and the dollar dies, like, it's not going 1140 01:01:31.519 --> 01:01:33.039 to matter that you get. 1141 01:01:34.639 --> 01:01:35.239 More oil. 1142 01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:39.039 Tiffany five dollars. Tiffany and Josh from X We did 1143 01:01:39.119 --> 01:01:42.239 get into Phronsie last night and Uzzo cristosinesty. 1144 01:01:43.639 --> 01:01:44.199 How did I know? 1145 01:01:45.480 --> 01:01:48.039 Because every Orthodox person was drinking last night, That's why 1146 01:01:48.119 --> 01:01:51.199 except for me. All right, so you know I wasn't 1147 01:01:51.239 --> 01:01:53.000 drinking if I was driving home with three in the morning, right, 1148 01:01:56.719 --> 01:01:59.360 Jewish skeptic five dollars. If you're at a church with 1149 01:01:59.440 --> 01:02:02.280 a lot of East Europeans, vodka and wine flows. 1150 01:02:03.960 --> 01:02:04.840 At Pasca especially. 1151 01:02:04.840 --> 01:02:06.840 I don't think the last few of us got out 1152 01:02:06.960 --> 01:02:11.519 until five thirty am. I understand. I was driving home 1153 01:02:11.559 --> 01:02:18.760 at five thirty am. Eddie says net and Yahoo. Oh 1154 01:02:18.840 --> 01:02:25.519 yeah that remember the Kanye's bizarre skit or whatever that was. 1155 01:02:29.199 --> 01:02:31.440 Derek mac ten dollars. What do you think America's politically 1156 01:02:31.440 --> 01:02:33.440 and culture like in five to ten years, Well, hopefully 1157 01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:35.639 we can become more orthodox. 1158 01:02:35.840 --> 01:02:35.920 Right. 1159 01:02:36.000 --> 01:02:37.760 So, by the way, that's a great point to transition 1160 01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:38.480 over here to this. 1161 01:02:38.719 --> 01:02:40.760 Brief story about. 1162 01:02:42.440 --> 01:02:45.360 Thousands of tweets and comments about all the Orthodox people 1163 01:02:45.840 --> 01:02:48.400 that were just received. But I didn't want to play 1164 01:02:48.440 --> 01:02:50.039 this because somebody just now sent it to me and said, hey, 1165 01:02:50.079 --> 01:02:53.800 you got to see Sam Hyde was arguing with an atheist. 1166 01:02:53.840 --> 01:02:56.719 All right, let's see this. This is interesting. Do you 1167 01:02:56.800 --> 01:02:57.360 believe in God? 1168 01:02:58.760 --> 01:02:59.199 Believe him? 1169 01:02:59.280 --> 01:03:00.960 That might be a high power book. 1170 01:03:02.480 --> 01:03:09.559 Create Our creator loves this man for some reason. Can 1171 01:03:09.639 --> 01:03:12.559 you see why I can't? 1172 01:03:13.760 --> 01:03:14.599 Who is this dude? 1173 01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.079 Who is Sam Hyde arguing with a Jewish atheist intellectual? 1174 01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:18.719 Or what is this? 1175 01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:19.599 I don't even know what this is. 1176 01:03:19.719 --> 01:03:22.119 I believe in a higher power. What that higher power is? 1177 01:03:22.519 --> 01:03:24.960 I don't believe it's God? The Bible? 1178 01:03:25.719 --> 01:03:26.159 Who wrote? 1179 01:03:26.519 --> 01:03:27.400 Who wrote the Bible? 1180 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:28.880 The people that will? 1181 01:03:30.239 --> 01:03:32.559 Who could read it right back then? Who could reader? 1182 01:03:32.599 --> 01:03:33.760 Who could read and write back then? 1183 01:03:34.159 --> 01:03:34.679 Who cares? 1184 01:03:34.920 --> 01:03:37.679 This is some high tier argumentation here by the atheist 1185 01:03:37.960 --> 01:03:39.960 who wrote the Bible? Who could even read and write 1186 01:03:40.000 --> 01:03:43.360 back then? This sounds like our freemason guy that called 1187 01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:44.639 in like his level of argument. 1188 01:03:45.559 --> 01:03:48.679 Definitely not the poor people, the rich, the nobles fuck 1189 01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:49.079 the poor. 1190 01:03:50.800 --> 01:03:55.320 So the poor people couldn't read the Bible, so it's false. Uh, 1191 01:03:55.599 --> 01:03:57.480 And it's the nobles that wrote the Bible. 1192 01:03:57.559 --> 01:04:00.519 This is ridiculous think that story is biased. I don't 1193 01:04:00.559 --> 01:04:03.480 give a shit about poor people in the Bible. You 1194 01:04:03.559 --> 01:04:06.559 see some bright light. We could just be all the pictures. 1195 01:04:07.199 --> 01:04:10.159 Is this what is this jubilee with Sam Hyde versus 1196 01:04:10.280 --> 01:04:14.760 twenty Jewish atheists? What is this illustration. 1197 01:04:16.280 --> 01:04:20.000 Farm? Yeah, that's probably what it is. It's probably as 1198 01:04:20.039 --> 01:04:21.000 that came here in seed. 1199 01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:27.639 Yeah, Aliens is always more intellectually sophisticated and convincing to 1200 01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:34.760 atheists than God's existence. Right, sure, Aliens right taint nothing 1201 01:04:34.760 --> 01:04:37.559 the dollars. Half of these arguments pretend that the US 1202 01:04:37.719 --> 01:04:39.480 is the good guy, China is the bad guy, as 1203 01:04:39.519 --> 01:04:42.920 if anti natalist elites consistently direct US policies as good. Yeah, 1204 01:04:42.960 --> 01:04:45.039 that could have brought that up to with Andrew, but 1205 01:04:45.079 --> 01:04:48.280 I didn't want to go off into too many other areas. 1206 01:04:48.320 --> 01:04:50.679 I wanted to stick to just kind of what he 1207 01:04:50.920 --> 01:04:54.480 what he thought was the killer you know, line of argument. 1208 01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:59.519 And to him it seemed to be, uh that whatever 1209 01:04:59.679 --> 01:05:03.480 helps the petro dollar. It's like, well, I mean, what 1210 01:05:03.599 --> 01:05:06.280 if we nuked every other country and then we took 1211 01:05:06.360 --> 01:05:08.400 all of the world's oil, would that helped them? I mean, 1212 01:05:08.760 --> 01:05:10.599 it just seems like it could lead to it, just 1213 01:05:10.679 --> 01:05:15.440 a very flimsy basis. Basically, Nibsen fifty dollars. Damn, I 1214 01:05:15.519 --> 01:05:18.280 gotta go to bedad. I'll have to watch redem Goober 1215 01:05:18.360 --> 01:05:21.840 clip tomorrow. Christ has risen, Lord have mercy on all 1216 01:05:21.880 --> 01:05:24.440 of us. I'm gonna get to it, dude, I'm trying. 1217 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:26.639 Just let me finish this clip and then we'll get 1218 01:05:26.679 --> 01:05:26.920 to that. 1219 01:05:27.320 --> 01:05:31.280 Very simil build those pyramids with a bunch of. 1220 01:05:33.119 --> 01:05:34.079 What the heck is this? 1221 01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:34.519 Even? 1222 01:05:34.840 --> 01:05:37.480 What the hell is even this carryings? 1223 01:05:37.679 --> 01:05:38.000 Okay? 1224 01:05:38.519 --> 01:05:41.119 And then there went weren't landmarks for some ship to 1225 01:05:41.159 --> 01:05:43.000 see coming from out of space where they was supposed 1226 01:05:43.000 --> 01:05:43.320 to land? 1227 01:05:43.599 --> 01:05:44.079 Possibly? 1228 01:05:45.039 --> 01:05:50.280 Okay? So yeah, world's smartest atheist alien believer here, right. 1229 01:05:50.519 --> 01:05:54.920 The Bible is crazy, It's totally insane. But the mega 1230 01:05:55.000 --> 01:05:58.679 lists are alien landing pads and airports for the aliens. 1231 01:05:58.840 --> 01:05:59.440 Very rational. 1232 01:06:00.320 --> 01:06:05.480 You're right, that's the most sam read in my mind, 1233 01:06:05.800 --> 01:06:11.400 the most plausible hyper advanced alien race would need landing markers. 1234 01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:11.800 Yeah. 1235 01:06:16.400 --> 01:06:19.280 And by the way, they fly a million years or 1236 01:06:19.400 --> 01:06:22.920 light years to get here, and then their dinky little 1237 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:26.760 thing crashes, right, so they have light speed, but they 1238 01:06:26.760 --> 01:06:29.599 don't know how to land in America. In America's in 1239 01:06:29.840 --> 01:06:34.599 America's orbit and the Earth's orbit and climate. Right, you're right. Oh, 1240 01:06:34.760 --> 01:06:41.719 we've mastered galactic travel, big piles of Rocksand this is. 1241 01:06:41.800 --> 01:06:44.000 My line of argument. Same hide likes, Jayder. 1242 01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:46.440 I think Jesus with a long beard and a robe 1243 01:06:46.480 --> 01:06:50.320 and blue eyes I do. And blonde hair doctrination. Blond 1244 01:06:50.400 --> 01:06:51.320 hair doctrination. 1245 01:06:56.119 --> 01:06:59.800 By the way, the only time I've even seen this 1246 01:07:00.760 --> 01:07:07.440 ridiculous blonde haired, blue eyed Jesus is at a Mormon 1247 01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:14.320 dumb Mormon pictures and at an Episcopal church in Memphis. 1248 01:07:16.400 --> 01:07:18.760 And the weird thing about the Episcopal church in Memphis, 1249 01:07:18.920 --> 01:07:21.239 I'll never be able to find that is the guy 1250 01:07:21.280 --> 01:07:24.639 who painted it also painted a bunch of painting of 1251 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:28.679 images of Christ for the Vatican and for the Pope. 1252 01:07:32.199 --> 01:07:35.360 Let me, actually, you guys should see this because first 1253 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:37.639 of all, the shows you want you have to have 1254 01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:41.679 a canonical approach to icons. 1255 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:43.559 You can't just paint Jesus in a way anyway that you. 1256 01:07:43.559 --> 01:07:46.800 Want, which, by the way, refutes the Roman Catholic Jesuit 1257 01:07:46.920 --> 01:07:51.519 portrayal of Jesus as Asian Jesus, Jesus as black Jesus. 1258 01:07:52.280 --> 01:07:55.440 That is not Jesus, that becomes gnostic Jesus because he's 1259 01:07:55.480 --> 01:07:58.800 no longer Hebrew and he's no longer the fulfillment of 1260 01:07:59.239 --> 01:08:03.440 the genial g that he's supposed to fulfill. Duh uh 1261 01:08:03.599 --> 01:08:06.119 let But you got to see this because this illustrates 1262 01:08:06.280 --> 01:08:08.280 a great point. And by the way, this guy, this artist, 1263 01:08:08.320 --> 01:08:09.960 remember looking this up back when I was a trad 1264 01:08:10.039 --> 01:08:22.960 cat is a hermeticist weirdo. I don't even remember how 1265 01:08:23.000 --> 01:08:25.720 I ended up. I ended up touring this church one 1266 01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:27.760 time for some reason. I don't remember how that came about. 1267 01:08:28.920 --> 01:08:33.960 Memphis Episcopal Church. Blonde to Jesus. I don't think it'll 1268 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:36.039 come up as Aryan Jesus blonde. 1269 01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:37.600 Jesus. 1270 01:08:37.720 --> 01:08:40.760 It's a really weird and the other he put E 1271 01:08:40.880 --> 01:08:42.600 equals mc squared. 1272 01:08:42.359 --> 01:08:43.279 On the image. 1273 01:08:43.760 --> 01:08:46.479 You can't make this up right, So this is some 1274 01:08:46.560 --> 01:08:48.840 sort of weird gnostic Jesus. 1275 01:08:53.399 --> 01:08:54.199 Here it is? This is it. 1276 01:08:56.319 --> 01:08:59.880 Derosan that's his name. Let's see if we can get 1277 01:08:59.880 --> 01:09:11.800 a full image of this for you guys. Okay, so 1278 01:09:12.640 --> 01:09:16.279 this is Arian Jesus up in the clouds. And I'll 1279 01:09:16.319 --> 01:09:17.760 be honest with you. I mean it's kind of cool, 1280 01:09:17.880 --> 01:09:21.359 like just from an art perspective, but it's totally heterodox, 1281 01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:25.640 like totally empathetical too. What the heck? 1282 01:09:26.520 --> 01:09:27.520 No, where do it go? 1283 01:09:30.840 --> 01:09:32.039 You'll just have to look at it here. 1284 01:09:40.399 --> 01:09:46.279 You see it there and uh, the book that the 1285 01:09:46.359 --> 01:09:52.159 angel is holding, it's a uh. It says E equals 1286 01:09:52.279 --> 01:09:56.359 MC squared on it. And here's another image of that. 1287 01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:59.479 I think that this is that same guy, like arian 1288 01:09:59.520 --> 01:10:02.800 gnostic Jesus. Uh, and this is the one that he 1289 01:10:02.920 --> 01:10:09.039 did for I think like some Roman Catholic churches, here's 1290 01:10:09.119 --> 01:10:12.520 a heterodox image of God the Father. I guess is 1291 01:10:12.520 --> 01:10:16.279 who that is. And it's Saint John's Episcopal Church in Memphis. 1292 01:10:17.880 --> 01:10:20.239 But it's just crazy, dude, It's like, what, Oh, here's 1293 01:10:20.279 --> 01:10:25.399 another one with Dolph Lungren Jesus. You see Dolph Lungrin there, 1294 01:10:26.279 --> 01:10:30.560 giant Nordic Jesus there. 1295 01:10:34.479 --> 01:10:37.800 So in that regard, like. 1296 01:10:38.000 --> 01:10:40.640 I'm gonna agree with the Jewish atheist man here, like, yeah, 1297 01:10:40.960 --> 01:10:44.279 that's not Jesus. But like that doesn't prove anything in 1298 01:10:44.399 --> 01:10:48.359 regard to your alien thesis dog instead of indoctrination. Because 1299 01:10:48.399 --> 01:10:50.119 I was an atheist until my late. 1300 01:10:50.039 --> 01:10:55.000 Twenties, you still believe in Santa Claus. 1301 01:10:55.239 --> 01:10:59.399 So tell me about copyrights and copy wrongs, all right, 1302 01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:00.920 that was a funny exchange. 1303 01:11:00.960 --> 01:11:03.000 Thanks for sending me that clip. You guys had not 1304 01:11:03.119 --> 01:11:09.079 seen that. I didn't want to mention this because so 1305 01:11:09.119 --> 01:11:11.760 many people were I didn't. This kind of surprised me. 1306 01:11:11.840 --> 01:11:15.279 On the timeline, it was like Holy Saturday welcomes new 1307 01:11:15.359 --> 01:11:18.560 Orthodox Christians worldwide, and there's just like, I mean, this 1308 01:11:18.960 --> 01:11:21.680 picture of this chick here is like two hundred and 1309 01:11:21.680 --> 01:11:26.000 sixty thousand, thirty five thousand, thirty thousand, So this is 1310 01:11:26.359 --> 01:11:30.960 this went pretty viral relatively speaking, all these people being received. 1311 01:11:31.319 --> 01:11:32.399 The other thing that was funny too. 1312 01:11:32.479 --> 01:11:34.039 I checked a lot of the comments and a lot 1313 01:11:34.079 --> 01:11:38.399 of the posts, and many of the guys that were 1314 01:11:38.479 --> 01:11:43.600 these new converts, they followed you boy right here. The girls, 1315 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:47.079 I don't think any of them. So none of the 1316 01:11:47.159 --> 01:11:49.479 girls who converted followed me, but all of the dudes 1317 01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:57.000 followed me. I thought that was funny but not surprising. Okay, 1318 01:11:57.800 --> 01:12:00.760 I know you guys have been asking, and I do 1319 01:12:00.880 --> 01:12:03.479 want to cover Builderberg too, but since so many people 1320 01:12:03.560 --> 01:12:09.119 are bitching about cover redeem Zoomer guys, I can't imagine 1321 01:12:09.159 --> 01:12:13.239 that he actually said something that's like super pressing and 1322 01:12:13.600 --> 01:12:17.720 like oh uh oh, hurry quick Jay refute redeem Zoomer 1323 01:12:17.840 --> 01:12:20.720 or else everybody's going to become Calvinist again, right, I mean, 1324 01:12:20.760 --> 01:12:30.039 we just saw Redeemed Zoomer's response to me three years later, right, 1325 01:12:30.319 --> 01:12:33.159 and that was even worse than the arguments he was 1326 01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:38.239 making initially. So he said that there's a general Protestant 1327 01:12:38.319 --> 01:12:43.079 communion that has a magisterial authority to mind people's consciences. 1328 01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:49.000 What basically nothing, no proposition in that sentence or assertion 1329 01:12:49.119 --> 01:12:50.039 that sentence is correct. 1330 01:12:51.119 --> 01:12:53.000 There is no Protestant magistarium. 1331 01:12:53.000 --> 01:12:56.239 There is no Protestant communion, and they might try to 1332 01:12:56.359 --> 01:13:00.880 mind person's consciences, but that's in contrast to the Reformation 1333 01:13:01.000 --> 01:13:04.680 distinctives of right of private interpretation, freedom of conscience, and 1334 01:13:04.680 --> 01:13:05.359 freedom of worship. 1335 01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:10.520 Nibs some fifty dollars. Dang, I have but to go 1336 01:13:10.520 --> 01:13:11.199 to bed and no, we did that. 1337 01:13:11.279 --> 01:13:15.800 Excuse me at m sacs ten dollars. Even a sleep 1338 01:13:15.880 --> 01:13:19.399 deprived person, even when you're a sleep deprived you lay 1339 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:23.239 out facts clearly. I always learn from your streams. Thank 1340 01:13:23.319 --> 01:13:28.800 you for your time, Thank you man. I see Harris 1341 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:31.399 five dollars. I saw a clip of you talking about 1342 01:13:31.399 --> 01:13:35.439 George Washington. Did you see the painting of his apotheosis. Yeah, 1343 01:13:35.479 --> 01:13:37.760 we went to it. That's where we went to the Masonic, 1344 01:13:38.960 --> 01:13:46.640 the Washington Masonic Monument. And by the way, the Freemasons 1345 01:13:46.840 --> 01:13:51.159 like they're the ones that really treat the Founding Fathers 1346 01:13:51.319 --> 01:13:54.520 like the Church fathers. Right now, we'll get into this 1347 01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:58.159 in the debate this weekend. I'll be debating Chase Geyser 1348 01:13:58.800 --> 01:14:04.479 and his lodge. But buddy, I'm just joking in Nashville 1349 01:14:04.640 --> 01:14:07.039 at I don't even know where this is. I hope 1350 01:14:07.079 --> 01:14:12.039 it's not on a Masonic lodge. But that's this weekend. 1351 01:14:12.199 --> 01:14:14.000 And yes, you can get tickets. I should have added 1352 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:23.720 the tickets to the show description. But SCHUMIASI says, blessed 1353 01:14:23.760 --> 01:14:26.840 pasca to the number one bipack bipoc face Lord, I'm 1354 01:14:26.880 --> 01:14:32.159 glad that you see reality. People are beginning to see reality. 1355 01:14:32.640 --> 01:14:35.680 Raptured Wes, Can I get a Van dam version of Jesus? 1356 01:14:35.800 --> 01:14:40.600 Now that would be again, these are all non canonical 1357 01:14:40.720 --> 01:14:45.359 heterodox icons. Parker ten dollars. I'm a catechumen at Father 1358 01:14:45.439 --> 01:14:48.680 Daniels Parish. He said last night was the largest pasca 1359 01:14:48.720 --> 01:14:49.439 they've ever had. 1360 01:14:49.880 --> 01:14:50.479 Glory to God. 1361 01:14:50.680 --> 01:14:59.159 That's awesome. Yeah, Father Daniel's great. By the way, if 1362 01:14:59.199 --> 01:14:59.760 you want to call in. 1363 01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:03.199 And refute me, tonight is your best your best chance, 1364 01:15:03.239 --> 01:15:04.720 because I'm out of it. I'm kind of. 1365 01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:08.000 Named shell shocked. All right, let's get into. 1366 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:12.800 Redeem Komer's video here, and we're gonna speed him up 1367 01:15:12.840 --> 01:15:13.239 a little bit. 1368 01:15:13.920 --> 01:15:15.520 Ten reasons he's not Orthodox. 1369 01:15:16.800 --> 01:15:20.079 I might just skip to each of the reasons, because 1370 01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:23.079 this is like a forty minute video. 1371 01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.880 I'm not watching this whole video. We'll skip through each 1372 01:15:25.920 --> 01:15:26.239 of these. 1373 01:15:27.960 --> 01:15:28.800 Let's see what he says. 1374 01:15:28.960 --> 01:15:30.680 And today we're talking about ten reasons why I'm not 1375 01:15:30.760 --> 01:15:32.800 Eastern Orthodox. I've made similar videos like this a few 1376 01:15:32.880 --> 01:15:34.640 years ago, but as many people let me know, those 1377 01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:36.159 videos were not very well thought out because that was 1378 01:15:36.199 --> 01:15:37.840 before I'd read any of the Church Fathers were anny 1379 01:15:37.840 --> 01:15:39.880 distinctively Eastern Orthodoxy elogions like let him are lost here 1380 01:15:39.920 --> 01:15:40.319 Michael Pump. 1381 01:15:40.680 --> 01:15:43.760 Okay, so uh, now he's read a couple of Church 1382 01:15:43.840 --> 01:15:46.239 Fathers and a couple of Orthodoxy illusions. So now it's 1383 01:15:46.279 --> 01:15:48.560 all going to be more thought out. And again we 1384 01:15:48.640 --> 01:15:52.880 saw from the previous video against me that it was, oh, 1385 01:15:54.319 --> 01:15:57.039 it was system building. He's gonna come up with a 1386 01:15:57.119 --> 01:16:00.159 way to make it all work. The whole point I know, 1387 01:16:00.199 --> 01:16:02.840 what we argue against these people is we don't need 1388 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:07.039 you inventing the wheel every generation. Right, if Protestantism and 1389 01:16:07.119 --> 01:16:10.560 Calvinism are true and the Reformation theology is true, guess what, 1390 01:16:11.119 --> 01:16:16.279 every generation has the burden of reinventing the wheel. They're 1391 01:16:16.319 --> 01:16:18.680 going to have to go back and see did the 1392 01:16:18.800 --> 01:16:22.319 Bible actually teach the Trinity? Did the Church fathers actually 1393 01:16:22.359 --> 01:16:23.680 teach vat General Regeneration? 1394 01:16:24.319 --> 01:16:24.960 On and on and on. 1395 01:16:25.359 --> 01:16:28.760 So the wheel has to be completely reinvented, completely read 1396 01:16:28.880 --> 01:16:34.000 on every generation. So the very act of having to 1397 01:16:34.279 --> 01:16:39.319 system build is itself an argument against Protestantism Zanski. 1398 01:16:39.439 --> 01:16:41.119 And as a result, my reasons were kind of simplistic, 1399 01:16:41.159 --> 01:16:42.880 So I thought I should revisit this issue after doing 1400 01:16:42.960 --> 01:16:44.520 the reading, especially because I've been making a lot of 1401 01:16:44.560 --> 01:16:46.560 videos about Roman Catholicism, like sixty seven reasons of not 1402 01:16:46.560 --> 01:16:48.239 Catholic were all the Catholic contradictions, and many of you 1403 01:16:48.239 --> 01:16:50.479 guys were requesting similar videos for Orthodoxy. Now, my reasons 1404 01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:52.199 for not being Orthodox are very different than my reasons 1405 01:16:52.199 --> 01:16:53.880 for not being Catholic. I don't think there are infallible 1406 01:16:53.920 --> 01:16:55.760 or dogmatic contradictions in Orthodoxy the same way there are 1407 01:16:55.840 --> 01:16:57.880 in Patholicism, but I still think there are inconsistencies and 1408 01:16:57.960 --> 01:16:59.840 theological issues. So we'll be talking about that. But for 1409 01:17:00.199 --> 01:17:02.520 only a small percentage people watch. My videos are actually subscribed, 1410 01:17:02.520 --> 01:17:03.479 So if you like what you see you want to 1411 01:17:03.479 --> 01:17:05.000 see more, consider of subscribing. It's free and you can 1412 01:17:05.000 --> 01:17:06.520 noways chang your mind. If you like the video, maketrit 1413 01:17:06.520 --> 01:17:07.800 to click the like button. If you didn't like the video, 1414 01:17:07.840 --> 01:17:08.840 make sure to click the dislike button. 1415 01:17:08.920 --> 01:17:09.159 Twics. 1416 01:17:09.239 --> 01:17:10.640 So now let's get into it. The first reason I'm 1417 01:17:10.640 --> 01:17:12.279 not convinced by Eastern orthodoxy is what I would call 1418 01:17:12.279 --> 01:17:14.439 the philioquay conundrum. The philioquay is the belief that the 1419 01:17:14.439 --> 01:17:16.680 Holy Spirit personally proceeds from the Father and the Son 1420 01:17:16.880 --> 01:17:18.800 or philioquay in Latin, instead of just from the Father. 1421 01:17:18.960 --> 01:17:21.039 So the West, meaning Catholics and Protestants, teaches the philioquay, 1422 01:17:21.079 --> 01:17:21.479 the East does not. 1423 01:17:21.560 --> 01:17:22.079 So who is right? 1424 01:17:22.119 --> 01:17:23.640 Now, that's not a debate I can solve in this video. 1425 01:17:23.640 --> 01:17:25.159 That debate's been going on for over a thousand years. 1426 01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:26.720 There's three out of the debates between like Chrisian Wagner 1427 01:17:26.720 --> 01:17:27.920 and David or hum that you can watch on YouTube. 1428 01:17:27.960 --> 01:17:29.159 Maybe in the future, I'll do a vide where I 1429 01:17:29.159 --> 01:17:30.960 actually try and argue for the philioquay. But this video 1430 01:17:30.960 --> 01:17:32.680 is about whether or not the philioqua is a heresy. 1431 01:17:32.840 --> 01:17:34.479 Not every error is a heresy. You could be wrong 1432 01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:36.199 about the age of the Earth without being a heretic. 1433 01:17:36.239 --> 01:17:37.760 A heresy, it's not just an error, it's an error 1434 01:17:37.800 --> 01:17:39.520 that is so bad it destroys the fundamentals of the 1435 01:17:39.640 --> 01:17:42.199 Christian faith and makes one not a Christian. Heresy is 1436 01:17:42.279 --> 01:17:44.960 a very serious accusation. And the Eastern Orthodox Church teaches 1437 01:17:45.000 --> 01:17:47.279 that the philioqua is a demonic trinitarian heresy. That's what 1438 01:17:47.279 --> 01:17:49.239 Saint Gregory Palmus taught. He's the greatest postkis I'm saying 1439 01:17:49.239 --> 01:17:51.199 freest Orthodoxy, and his views were codified at the Council 1440 01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:53.199 of Black Rene, which is binding on all Orthodox Christians. 1441 01:17:53.399 --> 01:17:55.640 And the identity of the Orthodox Church is being the 1442 01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:57.479 church that is free from heresy. The word Orthodox means 1443 01:17:57.560 --> 01:18:00.800 right belief, contrasted with heterdox taut heresy for five hundred years, 1444 01:18:00.800 --> 01:18:02.800 and that fundamentally contradicts the identity of what the Orthodox 1445 01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:05.239 Church is supposed to be. If the Orthodox Church, if 1446 01:18:05.239 --> 01:18:08.600 their largest jurisdiction taught a trinitarian heresy for five hundred years, 1447 01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:10.399 and nobody in that jurisdiction did anything about it, and 1448 01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:11.439 there wasn't a formal breaking. 1449 01:18:12.039 --> 01:18:15.960 Yeah, this is not true. You can read Sashensky's treatment 1450 01:18:16.439 --> 01:18:20.520 of the West from five hundred to one thousand, and 1451 01:18:20.760 --> 01:18:25.079 they are not clearly teaching the double hypostatic procession. So 1452 01:18:25.319 --> 01:18:29.279 this becomes codified in twelve seventy four at Lions and 1453 01:18:29.439 --> 01:18:32.680 then in a couple of centuries later at the Council 1454 01:18:32.680 --> 01:18:35.640 of Florence. So this is a basic mistake early on 1455 01:18:36.479 --> 01:18:40.720 that the Latin Church from five hundred to one thousand 1456 01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.399 explicitly clearly taught the Philly oquay. This is within the 1457 01:18:44.479 --> 01:18:50.840 timeframe when, for example, Saint Maximus says, perhaps they mean economia, 1458 01:18:51.000 --> 01:18:52.960 so let's grant them the benefit of the doubt. So 1459 01:18:53.159 --> 01:18:55.960 it is a time period where it is unclear exactly 1460 01:18:56.079 --> 01:18:59.840 what the Latin West means, and that's exactly what Sashensky 1461 01:18:59.840 --> 01:19:03.119 had him self says in his scholarly treatment of the 1462 01:19:03.159 --> 01:19:04.479 history of the philioquayd doctrine. 1463 01:19:04.520 --> 01:19:05.880 So that is simply not true. 1464 01:19:06.399 --> 01:19:11.079 And no, we don't, for example, anathematize every theological error 1465 01:19:11.199 --> 01:19:16.159 even until there's specifically the potentiality of that error affecting 1466 01:19:16.199 --> 01:19:20.560 the church at a large scale, or the church father 1467 01:19:20.760 --> 01:19:23.960 or the person or the patristic writer in question obstinately 1468 01:19:24.079 --> 01:19:27.560 rejects the rest of the Church. So, for example, Augustine 1469 01:19:27.640 --> 01:19:30.880 is not a heretic because he said and on the Trinity, 1470 01:19:31.359 --> 01:19:32.640 I give this book to. 1471 01:19:32.760 --> 01:19:36.479 The universal Church, not to Rome by the way, to judge. 1472 01:19:36.439 --> 01:19:38.680 Whether or not what I say is correct, and if 1473 01:19:38.680 --> 01:19:41.000 there's anything wrong in it, I submit to the judgment 1474 01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:41.479 of the Church. 1475 01:19:42.000 --> 01:19:43.199 That's the attitude of a saint. 1476 01:19:43.760 --> 01:19:46.399 Origin, on the other hand, did not listen to the 1477 01:19:46.479 --> 01:19:48.800 rest of the church and the synods and the bishops, 1478 01:19:49.199 --> 01:19:52.600 and continued on in his neoplatonic heresies, which denied many 1479 01:19:52.680 --> 01:19:56.159 fundamental teachings of the orthox Catholic Church at that time, 1480 01:19:56.239 --> 01:19:58.000 and thus he was condemned even in his own day 1481 01:19:58.479 --> 01:20:01.039 and in multiple ecumenical counts. So the difference between a 1482 01:20:01.119 --> 01:20:04.840 heretic who's obstinate and a person who made theological error 1483 01:20:05.520 --> 01:20:10.520 is simply obstinacy and continuing in that error to death right. 1484 01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.199 Tertullian began good, but he left. 1485 01:20:13.079 --> 01:20:15.159 The church and ended in heresy, So he's a heretic. 1486 01:20:15.520 --> 01:20:18.159 So the East did not become separate officially from the 1487 01:20:18.239 --> 01:20:21.800 West until over six hundred years after Augustin first started 1488 01:20:21.800 --> 01:20:24.319 teaching the fiel Yokuang. The West is the patriarchate of Rome, 1489 01:20:24.359 --> 01:20:25.800 which is what the East worthyde Well. 1490 01:20:26.000 --> 01:20:30.119 That's an an arbitrary standard that somehow we're supposed to 1491 01:20:30.199 --> 01:20:34.039 submit to his idea of when there should have been 1492 01:20:34.199 --> 01:20:38.439 a excommunication and a rejection. And he doesn't know this 1493 01:20:38.560 --> 01:20:41.600 controversy that well, he has not read Sashchensky on it. 1494 01:20:42.560 --> 01:20:44.520 If he did, he would know that it's more complex 1495 01:20:44.600 --> 01:20:47.039 than just saying why didn't the East just immediately cut 1496 01:20:47.079 --> 01:20:49.640 off the entire West? Well, again, it was if you 1497 01:20:49.680 --> 01:20:52.680 read the letter to Marhinus by Saint Maximus. He says, 1498 01:20:52.680 --> 01:20:54.720 it's not clear exactly what they mean or what they're teaching. 1499 01:20:55.239 --> 01:20:58.000 Thus it's not dogmatized until twelve seventy four at the 1500 01:20:58.119 --> 01:20:59.239 Latin Counts of Lions. 1501 01:21:00.000 --> 01:21:01.399 All right, let's move on to the next one. 1502 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.680 Icons believe the honor given to the image passes to 1503 01:21:06.720 --> 01:21:08.680 the prototype. That's what Saint Basil says, And in context, 1504 01:21:08.720 --> 01:21:10.079 he was not talking about icons. He was talking about 1505 01:21:10.079 --> 01:21:11.079 the relation of the sun of the Father. But they 1506 01:21:11.119 --> 01:21:13.439 believe that logic applies. They think icons are windows into Heaven. 1507 01:21:13.479 --> 01:21:14.840 It's a very big deal for them. Where of their 1508 01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:18.000 infallible ecumenical councils is Niciatu, which claims infallibly that icon 1509 01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:20.680 veneration is an unbroken tradition of the Apostles, which means, 1510 01:21:20.720 --> 01:21:23.439 if Orthodoxy is correct, icon veneration has always been practiced 1511 01:21:23.479 --> 01:21:25.439 in the Christian churches. Here's the problem. All the best 1512 01:21:25.479 --> 01:21:28.000 historical evidence completely contradicts that before three twenty five eight, 1513 01:21:28.079 --> 01:21:29.960 before Constantine, before there's this massive. 1514 01:21:29.920 --> 01:21:34.840 You notice he immediately skipped every biblical Old Testament example. 1515 01:21:35.640 --> 01:21:36.680 This is what they always do. 1516 01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:43.000 So, uh, I'm not going to refute and rehearse the 1517 01:21:43.239 --> 01:21:45.600 entire arguments for icons. 1518 01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:48.520 But Orthodox Shahada. 1519 01:21:51.600 --> 01:21:57.880 Made a documentary illustrating probably I think the strongest refutation 1520 01:21:58.079 --> 01:21:59.399 of the iconic class. 1521 01:22:00.680 --> 01:22:01.359 You let him deny. 1522 01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:03.199 And the reason this is so good is that this 1523 01:22:03.359 --> 01:22:08.760 refutes the Protestants from the Bible. So if you can 1524 01:22:08.840 --> 01:22:15.000 demonstrate that the iconographic tradition is actually rooted in the 1525 01:22:15.079 --> 01:22:18.640 Old Testament temple liturgy, then all of these other dumb 1526 01:22:18.720 --> 01:22:21.920 arguments about well, I don't see a clear representation in 1527 01:22:22.239 --> 01:22:26.199 the year three hundred, Well I've been to the Catacombs, 1528 01:22:26.399 --> 01:22:30.079 and the Catacombs in Rome have clear iconographic representations from 1529 01:22:30.119 --> 01:22:35.079 their third, fourth, fifth century. Okay, So then that refutes 1530 01:22:35.119 --> 01:22:37.319 the idea that they didn't exist historically. Now you can 1531 01:22:37.399 --> 01:22:40.560 go to in the catacombs and you can see altars, 1532 01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:47.840 and they have pictorial imagery of Christ very early. Okay. 1533 01:22:49.479 --> 01:22:55.439 So if the roots of iconography are Hebraic, that immediately 1534 01:22:55.560 --> 01:23:00.439 undercuts this low tier argumentation that I don't say a 1535 01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:06.920 Patristic specific citation in the first three centuries, this Protestant 1536 01:23:07.000 --> 01:23:11.039 little ghost. How about if I go to Protestant scholars 1537 01:23:11.760 --> 01:23:15.039 who admit that there are those things early on, And 1538 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:18.640 that's why I made this brief twenty minute video here 1539 01:23:20.039 --> 01:23:23.319 refuting Gavin Ortland icons And I'm just arguing from the 1540 01:23:23.439 --> 01:23:27.399 first chapter or second chapter of Hugh Weybrew's book, who's 1541 01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:36.119 an Anglican liturgical scholar, called the Byzantine Liturgy. And here's 1542 01:23:36.199 --> 01:23:40.079 that twenty minute video. So that should be an easy 1543 01:23:40.159 --> 01:23:45.119 refutation of this low tier argument. So this guy is 1544 01:23:45.199 --> 01:23:48.760 like ten years behind everyone else, and then he reads 1545 01:23:48.800 --> 01:23:50.640 a few books and in three years comes back with 1546 01:23:51.600 --> 01:23:56.640 being seven years behind everyone else. Okay, let's see the 1547 01:23:56.720 --> 01:23:57.880 next line of argument here. 1548 01:23:58.439 --> 01:23:59.640 Although we know where the church is not where the 1549 01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:01.319 Church isn't if you read the Orthodox ruder, they very 1550 01:24:01.359 --> 01:24:02.600 clearly know where the Church isn't. And even if there 1551 01:24:02.640 --> 01:24:04.680 could be some grace in other communions, it's not real 1552 01:24:04.800 --> 01:24:06.840 Christianity in the West. Everything after the Great Schism, meaning 1553 01:24:06.920 --> 01:24:09.560 Catholicism and Protestantism, is not real Christianity. According to eas North. 1554 01:24:09.600 --> 01:24:12.159 I's see here's the problem. A major reason why I 1555 01:24:12.279 --> 01:24:14.159 am Christian, a major reason why many people are Christian 1556 01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:16.439 is seeing the impacts that Christianity has in the world, 1557 01:24:16.520 --> 01:24:19.760 Seeing how Christianity improves lives, improve societies, and transform society 1558 01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:21.800 for the better, spreads God's kingdom on earth. The vast 1559 01:24:21.880 --> 01:24:24.159 majority of the great things Christianity has done for the 1560 01:24:24.199 --> 01:24:26.359 world has been in Western Christianity. 1561 01:24:26.600 --> 01:24:29.560 You know, if this is a very subjective line of argumentation, 1562 01:24:29.800 --> 01:24:33.199 because it really depends on which position is correct to 1563 01:24:33.399 --> 01:24:37.760 know through your paradigm what constitutes a better civilization or 1564 01:24:37.800 --> 01:24:41.119 what constitutes a greater value. 1565 01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.800 Of you know, quality of life. 1566 01:24:43.960 --> 01:24:47.720 Right, if we're just measuring it by material success or 1567 01:24:48.319 --> 01:24:53.479 something like that, well, then atheism might provide a material 1568 01:24:53.640 --> 01:24:58.680 success because atheistic societies have become very scientifically advanced. Right, 1569 01:24:59.159 --> 01:25:02.319 the modern West is atheistic. It's very scientifically advanced. So 1570 01:25:02.520 --> 01:25:04.079 does that mean atheism is true? I mean, this is 1571 01:25:04.159 --> 01:25:07.000 just a silly line of argument. It should be pretty 1572 01:25:07.079 --> 01:25:10.000 obvious that you know. It's just it's the same line 1573 01:25:10.000 --> 01:25:13.159 of argumentation that Roman Catholics do when they say Rome 1574 01:25:13.279 --> 01:25:15.800 is the true church because we won, and we have numbers, 1575 01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:18.560 bro and the papers. He's got a lot of money 1576 01:25:18.600 --> 01:25:21.039 in churches, so we win. This is so stupid, it's 1577 01:25:21.079 --> 01:25:24.960 the lowest tier of argumentation because they don't even realize. 1578 01:25:25.000 --> 01:25:28.479 Augustine City of God is written to refute that line 1579 01:25:28.520 --> 01:25:36.840 of argumentation. Gabriel says, for five dollars was Origin. Yes, 1580 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:40.159 he was condemned by even a saint. I always forget 1581 01:25:40.199 --> 01:25:45.439 the name. It's either Saint Optitus or Saint or Origin 1582 01:25:45.560 --> 01:25:46.479 was condemned by saints in. 1583 01:25:46.520 --> 01:25:48.520 His own day. And yes he died outside of communion. 1584 01:25:48.560 --> 01:25:49.159 He's a heretic. 1585 01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:53.079 Forty crush two dollars. Did you watch Trevor Moore's Kiddy History. 1586 01:25:55.479 --> 01:25:58.680 I saw a skit going around about circumcision. Is that 1587 01:25:58.720 --> 01:25:59.399 what you're talking about? 1588 01:25:59.399 --> 01:25:59.680 I don't know. 1589 01:26:00.319 --> 01:26:03.399 Octavian five dollars hot come you avoid debates with Doug Wilson. 1590 01:26:03.840 --> 01:26:05.520 I didn't avoid a debate with Doug Wilson. We tried 1591 01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:07.039 to get him to come to debate on Timcast. What 1592 01:26:07.119 --> 01:26:10.880 are you talking about. You're a longtime super chatter. You 1593 01:26:10.920 --> 01:26:13.239 should know that I'm not avoiding debates with people like 1594 01:26:13.319 --> 01:26:16.840 Doug Wilson. In fact, I just said the other day, 1595 01:26:16.960 --> 01:26:18.840 we can try to set up a debate with Doug Wilson, 1596 01:26:18.880 --> 01:26:19.199 but he won't. 1597 01:26:19.199 --> 01:26:21.560 I don't think he'll do it. He didn't do Now. 1598 01:26:21.720 --> 01:26:27.119 Supposedly he told Tallahassee Patriot he would debate me, and 1599 01:26:27.399 --> 01:26:29.760 when we did the three way debate on tim Cast, 1600 01:26:29.800 --> 01:26:32.640 it was supposed to be originally me, Tim Gordon and 1601 01:26:32.720 --> 01:26:37.279 Doug Wilson. Now supposedly Doug Wilson wasn't able to or 1602 01:26:37.319 --> 01:26:39.680 didn't want to. I don't know if he didn't want 1603 01:26:39.720 --> 01:26:42.399 to do it, cancel or couldn't do it right, Who knows. 1604 01:26:42.560 --> 01:26:45.560 But no, I'm not opposed to debating Doug Wilson. 1605 01:26:45.600 --> 01:26:48.199 In fact, he did so bad against Heshmeier that now 1606 01:26:48.239 --> 01:26:50.840 I'm like, I smell blood and I would love to 1607 01:26:50.880 --> 01:26:55.319 debate Doug Wilson, but I don't appreciate that super chat 1608 01:26:55.399 --> 01:26:58.600 Octavian that I'm avoiding that you don't even know. 1609 01:27:00.199 --> 01:27:01.279 Oh he's trolling. He's joking. 1610 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:07.720 Okay, good beat Box. Would you be down to do 1611 01:27:07.800 --> 01:27:09.479 Maton interview in the future. 1612 01:27:09.760 --> 01:27:09.920 Yeah. 1613 01:27:09.960 --> 01:27:11.720 I texted with Maton when we were in LA and 1614 01:27:11.760 --> 01:27:13.199 I was about to go on there, but we had 1615 01:27:13.239 --> 01:27:16.279 to leave a couple of days before he could do it. 1616 01:27:16.520 --> 01:27:19.439 So we talked about doing it in the future. And 1617 01:27:19.520 --> 01:27:23.359 there's another huge channel that I also have a possibility 1618 01:27:23.399 --> 01:27:28.000 of going on in LA in La as well, but 1619 01:27:28.079 --> 01:27:30.279 I don't know exactly when I'm gonna be back in La. 1620 01:27:30.479 --> 01:27:37.239 So Octavian gifted ten membership. Appreciate the Celestium ten dollars. 1621 01:27:37.880 --> 01:27:39.680 I hope you feel better soon. I don't feel bad. 1622 01:27:39.720 --> 01:27:42.960 I'm just tired, like we just it feels hungover because 1623 01:27:43.159 --> 01:27:48.039 you know, I feel hungover because of the drive Tallahassee. 1624 01:27:48.079 --> 01:27:50.720 What's up, man, I know that you were originally talking 1625 01:27:50.760 --> 01:27:51.439 to Doug Wilson. 1626 01:27:55.079 --> 01:27:57.439 Yeah, Jay, I just wanted to briefly say I can 1627 01:27:57.560 --> 01:27:59.680 can affirm that Doug Wilson said to be in person 1628 01:27:59.800 --> 01:28:02.520 that he's up to debate you. I spoke with him 1629 01:28:02.640 --> 01:28:06.359 at NAT time The National Conservatism Conference in DC back 1630 01:28:06.439 --> 01:28:09.039 in September. I basically explayed, you know, you helped lead 1631 01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:11.000 a lot of young Brent to orthodoxy, you've appeared out 1632 01:28:11.000 --> 01:28:13.159 of the Alex Jones show, et cetera, et cetera. And 1633 01:28:13.279 --> 01:28:15.000 he said he'd be open to debate you in terms 1634 01:28:15.039 --> 01:28:16.640 of a PROSTI versus orthodox debate. 1635 01:28:17.199 --> 01:28:19.119 We exchanged email. 1636 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:24.039 Addresses, but then the Charlie kirkavet happened September totally distracted. 1637 01:28:24.079 --> 01:28:26.600 Okay, but then, but then, but then, but I followed 1638 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:27.479 up with him just. 1639 01:28:27.520 --> 01:28:30.279 Recently the other day an abitor back from him. 1640 01:28:30.359 --> 01:28:32.039 Yet okay, well follow once more. 1641 01:28:32.520 --> 01:28:35.920 Yeah, felt free to uh. And also I thought that 1642 01:28:36.279 --> 01:28:40.000 initially we thought FDA might do it, and the FDA, 1643 01:28:40.159 --> 01:28:41.880 see if I recall, he seemed open to it. 1644 01:28:42.000 --> 01:28:43.239 And then I don't know what happened with that. 1645 01:28:44.199 --> 01:28:46.159 But then I thought, well, why don't we just get 1646 01:28:46.199 --> 01:28:48.840 Doug Wilson into the three way debate on timcast? 1647 01:28:49.039 --> 01:28:51.720 And do you know by chance why that did he 1648 01:28:51.960 --> 01:28:53.479 mention that at any point? 1649 01:28:54.359 --> 01:28:55.560 Oh no, I have no idea about that. 1650 01:28:56.640 --> 01:28:59.760 Okay, because the timcast girl was trying to get Doug Wilson. 1651 01:28:59.800 --> 01:29:05.079 But anyway, Yeah, that's all I want to let you know, Yeah, 1652 01:29:05.079 --> 01:29:06.800 I appreciate that. Well, let me know what he says 1653 01:29:06.960 --> 01:29:11.000 if he replies to be honest with you, though I don't. 1654 01:29:11.039 --> 01:29:12.520 I don't want to do. I don't want to go 1655 01:29:12.720 --> 01:29:14.720 somewhere and do an in person debate because we just 1656 01:29:14.800 --> 01:29:17.960 got back from a five week road trip of twenty podcasts. 1657 01:29:18.600 --> 01:29:22.520 So I'm willing to do something definitely online in the 1658 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:24.720 near future. And the only reason I'm doing this national 1659 01:29:24.760 --> 01:29:26.439 debate is because Nashville is not very far from here. 1660 01:29:27.640 --> 01:29:29.880 I don't really want to drive or fly somewhere to 1661 01:29:29.920 --> 01:29:33.600 debate Doug Wilson, but we can definitely set something up virtually. 1662 01:29:40.359 --> 01:29:42.319 David says her twenty dollars. If it was up to Jay, 1663 01:29:42.399 --> 01:29:44.760 all the failing Fathers would be Orthodox. They obviously didn't 1664 01:29:44.800 --> 01:29:47.239 know what they were doing. It's not like they created 1665 01:29:47.239 --> 01:29:49.119 the best nation on the earth they ever seen in history. Dude, 1666 01:29:49.119 --> 01:29:51.520 are you serious? David, please call in. This is so stupid. 1667 01:29:51.840 --> 01:29:55.000 I hope you're trolling that if that's like an actual 1668 01:29:55.119 --> 01:29:55.920 argument that you're making. 1669 01:29:58.479 --> 01:30:01.239 I mean, Matt Augusta is se God has written against 1670 01:30:02.239 --> 01:30:05.680 the idea that you can tell which religion is true 1671 01:30:05.760 --> 01:30:08.680 based on monetary and civilizational success. 1672 01:30:10.680 --> 01:30:12.680 I mean, this is such a dumb argument. 1673 01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:18.319 I mean, by that line of argument, Rome fell because 1674 01:30:18.319 --> 01:30:21.279 it became Christian, Right, That's what the Pagans were saying 1675 01:30:21.319 --> 01:30:24.640 to Augustine. So the entire book City of God is 1676 01:30:24.640 --> 01:30:29.079 written as an apologetic to refute that argument. And these 1677 01:30:29.880 --> 01:30:32.640 mind bombed, idiot Roman Catholics don't even know that, Like 1678 01:30:33.079 --> 01:30:36.880 you're quoting at me that orthodoxy is false because fourteen 1679 01:30:36.960 --> 01:30:40.279 fifty three bro it fell to you know, Islam. It's like, dude, 1680 01:30:40.319 --> 01:30:43.680 it fell when it was a uniate. That that refuted you, 1681 01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:47.600 You dummy. So Daniel or David please call in because 1682 01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:50.680 I would love to refute this retarded line of argumentation 1683 01:30:50.840 --> 01:30:58.039 that the Founding Fathers. I mean, it's just an oversimplification, right, 1684 01:31:01.279 --> 01:31:06.159 and the Founding Fathers could be right on certain things 1685 01:31:06.239 --> 01:31:08.479 and wrong on a lot of other things and create 1686 01:31:08.560 --> 01:31:13.279 a nation that was very successful. But if you're trying 1687 01:31:13.279 --> 01:31:17.520 to defend against my point earlier about the Founding Fathers 1688 01:31:17.560 --> 01:31:21.239 and their emphasis in regards to Freemasonry, like, oh, I 1689 01:31:21.279 --> 01:31:24.000 guess freemasonry is true then because the Church Fathers, I mean, 1690 01:31:24.039 --> 01:31:28.279 the Founding Fathers were Freemasons in large parts, not all 1691 01:31:28.279 --> 01:31:31.000 of them, but many of them and the American Enlightenment 1692 01:31:31.039 --> 01:31:33.840 ethos produced America, so therefore it's true. I mean, this 1693 01:31:33.920 --> 01:31:38.479 is so stupid, dude. I mean, do you not understand 1694 01:31:38.520 --> 01:31:40.159 why that's a bad line. I think a lot of 1695 01:31:40.199 --> 01:31:42.680 you guys actually don't understand why that's a bad line 1696 01:31:42.680 --> 01:31:45.159 of argument. And you know, I was trying to illustrate 1697 01:31:45.199 --> 01:31:50.359 that with Andrew Meyer by pointing out, like, if you 1698 01:31:50.479 --> 01:31:54.920 go this line of argument, it seems to lead to bad, 1699 01:31:56.039 --> 01:32:03.159 illogical conclusions to bet except fly Doug Wilson out. I'm 1700 01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:06.159 not flying Doug Wilson in my house, dude. I don't 1701 01:32:06.199 --> 01:32:09.079 really want to be anywhere near Doug Wilson except on 1702 01:32:09.119 --> 01:32:12.000 the internet. Maybe I don't like Doug Wilson at all. 1703 01:32:12.079 --> 01:32:15.640 I think he's I don't think he's a good person. 1704 01:32:23.239 --> 01:32:26.319 Everyone's asking me about this Trump post. What's the Trump Post? 1705 01:32:26.359 --> 01:32:26.680 I don't know. 1706 01:32:26.800 --> 01:32:28.520 I've been doing this. All right, let's do this next, 1707 01:32:30.319 --> 01:32:31.640 all right, let's move fast through. 1708 01:32:31.560 --> 01:32:33.119 Redeem Kumer's argument here. 1709 01:32:33.279 --> 01:32:39.239 Protestant culture. I mean, these arguments are terrible. What does 1710 01:32:39.279 --> 01:32:41.279 any of this have to do with proving whether Orthodox 1711 01:32:41.399 --> 01:32:44.000 is true or false? Protestant culture? I mean, by this 1712 01:32:44.159 --> 01:32:47.319 line of argument. I could argue that Protestantism produced atheism, 1713 01:32:47.680 --> 01:32:52.359 and atheism has destroyed the West. This is so dumb, Cleve. 1714 01:32:52.439 --> 01:32:54.720 Did you want to say something? I saw you for 1715 01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:56.399 a second and you fell out, Cleve, you want to 1716 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:56.720 come back? 1717 01:33:00.039 --> 01:33:00.159 When? 1718 01:33:00.199 --> 01:33:00.520 What's up? 1719 01:33:00.560 --> 01:33:00.680 Man? 1720 01:33:05.479 --> 01:33:05.600 Hey? 1721 01:33:05.720 --> 01:33:10.359 Jay, I kind of wanted to like go back to 1722 01:33:10.479 --> 01:33:15.960 like geopolitics stuff. Okay, I think I mostly agree with you, 1723 01:33:16.079 --> 01:33:19.600 but like I keep encountering people that are, like, I 1724 01:33:19.680 --> 01:33:21.920 think they're really kind of coping to a certain extent 1725 01:33:22.039 --> 01:33:24.279 with like the stuff that Trump has done. And I 1726 01:33:24.359 --> 01:33:28.680 heard some people doing that a little bit earlier, and 1727 01:33:29.199 --> 01:33:31.279 like I hear people like I think the cope they're 1728 01:33:31.279 --> 01:33:32.600 trying to come up with is like, oh, this is 1729 01:33:32.720 --> 01:33:35.960 like geopolitical positioning for China and stuff. 1730 01:33:35.800 --> 01:33:36.880 Is the thing that I've encountered. 1731 01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:39.680 And yeah, that's what Andrew was arguing. 1732 01:33:40.720 --> 01:33:42.880 Yeah, that's that's the argument that they like make for 1733 01:33:42.960 --> 01:33:47.600 like it's all global positioning for that. But it's really 1734 01:33:47.720 --> 01:33:50.439 like stupid in my opic to make that argument, because 1735 01:33:53.720 --> 01:33:57.039 if you look at the domestic political consequences from like 1736 01:33:57.159 --> 01:33:59.039 the stuff, and I know this is politics, which is 1737 01:33:59.079 --> 01:34:01.800 like a lower tier, then we're and stuff and philosophy, 1738 01:34:01.880 --> 01:34:06.239 but that's like what the arguments are on. It's stupid 1739 01:34:06.319 --> 01:34:12.720 because the domestic consequences for these actions are going to 1740 01:34:12.800 --> 01:34:16.119 be that, like the Democrats are going to like. 1741 01:34:16.199 --> 01:34:18.039 Completely take over the whole country. 1742 01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:21.680 So it's like, Okay, congratulations, like you've defeated Iran and 1743 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:24.560 not even if they're going to do that, but like 1744 01:34:24.960 --> 01:34:26.760 let's say you get everything that you think you're going 1745 01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:30.039 to get outside of the country domestically, like you've lost 1746 01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:33.520 everything domestically, Like those are going to be the consequences, 1747 01:34:33.600 --> 01:34:36.119 Like do you, like I try to get people like 1748 01:34:36.359 --> 01:34:41.720 recognize that that what's going to happen is like the 1749 01:34:41.920 --> 01:34:44.640 entire coalition politically or whatever is completely busted that like 1750 01:34:44.720 --> 01:34:48.840 they built over ten years and the betrayal is going 1751 01:34:48.880 --> 01:34:49.640 to lead to like. 1752 01:34:51.159 --> 01:34:54.079 Large scale leftist control of the country. 1753 01:34:54.279 --> 01:34:57.479 It will break down to like domestic conflict. Like I 1754 01:34:57.600 --> 01:35:00.199 try to explain this to people, and I I think 1755 01:35:00.239 --> 01:35:02.000 I freaked them out a little bit because they think 1756 01:35:02.039 --> 01:35:03.359 they like everything they say. 1757 01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:07.039 I'm like, okay, but what about this, And they just 1758 01:35:07.119 --> 01:35:08.079 don't have a response. 1759 01:35:10.600 --> 01:35:12.640 And that's the thing I would just point back towards 1760 01:35:12.720 --> 01:35:15.560 people that like bring that up is just bring up 1761 01:35:15.600 --> 01:35:18.359 the domestic stuff like okay, but none of the domestic 1762 01:35:18.359 --> 01:35:19.079 stuff is happening. 1763 01:35:19.119 --> 01:35:21.680 That's what he was elected on and he won't be 1764 01:35:21.720 --> 01:35:22.000 able to. 1765 01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:23.600 Carry any of it out because he used all his 1766 01:35:23.680 --> 01:35:26.479 political will to do foreign. 1767 01:35:28.239 --> 01:35:31.720 Entanglement nonsense that he ran against for a decade. 1768 01:35:32.760 --> 01:35:37.560 And then people don't have a response, They don't have 1769 01:35:37.720 --> 01:35:38.520 a good response to. 1770 01:35:38.520 --> 01:35:38.840 Any of that. 1771 01:35:40.119 --> 01:35:43.000 They just say, no, no, I think this is all 1772 01:35:43.039 --> 01:35:45.239 about the petro dollar, which doesn't even exist. It's a 1773 01:35:45.279 --> 01:35:49.880 euro dollar system, stupid, and they'll but they don't know that, 1774 01:35:50.000 --> 01:35:54.520 they don't even know what the petro dollar is. And 1775 01:35:54.600 --> 01:35:58.079 then they'll say like they just have like no response 1776 01:35:58.159 --> 01:35:59.640 to that. But I try to point that out to 1777 01:35:59.720 --> 01:36:02.920 people in I'm not even trying to be mean. I'm 1778 01:36:02.920 --> 01:36:04.479 trying to like do it gently because I kind of 1779 01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:05.600 like the people I talked. 1780 01:36:05.399 --> 01:36:05.800 To about it. 1781 01:36:05.880 --> 01:36:07.880 That shit, I'm trying to be mean, dude, I'm over 1782 01:36:07.960 --> 01:36:11.520 trying to be mean. I'm just joking because people say that, 1783 01:36:11.680 --> 01:36:16.600 but that false reputation. But and you have a false reputation. 1784 01:36:16.720 --> 01:36:19.039 Your mom has a false reputation. See Im'm being mean now. 1785 01:36:21.399 --> 01:36:23.960 My mom is kind of mean though, that's true, But. 1786 01:36:26.800 --> 01:36:30.760 The the people that make these arguments for the foreign stuff, 1787 01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:35.800 they're just stupid, like it's your None of that stuff 1788 01:36:35.960 --> 01:36:40.279 matters to the people that elected Trump, and none of 1789 01:36:40.279 --> 01:36:45.439 that's gonna matter in like five years when whatever president 1790 01:36:45.520 --> 01:36:48.720 or whoever is in power, that's going to be like, dude, 1791 01:36:48.720 --> 01:36:50.239 these people don't want regular. 1792 01:36:49.960 --> 01:36:50.960 People to own cars. 1793 01:36:51.199 --> 01:36:54.520 Yeah, yeah, well I appreciate that. That's a great point 1794 01:36:54.560 --> 01:36:57.640 on it. But look what this tells us is that 1795 01:36:57.800 --> 01:36:59.600 Big mic is who we should have gone with. They 1796 01:36:59.600 --> 01:37:05.359 should have put Big Mike in and we wouldn't have 1797 01:37:05.520 --> 01:37:11.319 none of these problems because she has the strength of 1798 01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:17.640 a thousand horses to deal with these issues. Shahe's strength 1799 01:37:17.760 --> 01:37:19.760 could have dealt with these issues. By the way, I forgot. 1800 01:37:21.039 --> 01:37:23.880 Alex Soren also had Michael gardon on who wrote a 1801 01:37:24.000 --> 01:37:28.479 recent book on iconography in the first three centuries. So 1802 01:37:28.600 --> 01:37:32.239 here is that livestream with Alex and Michael Garton. I 1803 01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:35.039 used to interact with Michael back in the day on Facebook, 1804 01:37:35.119 --> 01:37:39.000 long time ago before as orthodox. So there is their 1805 01:37:39.279 --> 01:37:42.560 long stream refuting the idea because Michael has a book 1806 01:37:42.560 --> 01:37:45.279 on iconography again in the first few centuries. So here 1807 01:37:45.439 --> 01:37:49.760 is Cleve and Michael glitching out, and there is their 1808 01:37:49.920 --> 01:37:53.319 long refutation. Here is my short twenty minute refutation. 1809 01:37:53.479 --> 01:37:59.680 Again, Cleave, what's up, dog? I was going to go 1810 01:37:59.680 --> 01:38:00.640 to this Trump post. 1811 01:38:01.079 --> 01:38:01.800 That's what I was going. 1812 01:38:03.159 --> 01:38:10.760 Clear, Ory there leon the Eucharist as a sacrifice, go ahead, 1813 01:38:11.640 --> 01:38:12.279 I was gonna. 1814 01:38:12.039 --> 01:38:13.560 Say, yeah, I DMG that Trump post. 1815 01:38:13.640 --> 01:38:16.279 Basically, he uh, I'm trying to pull it up here 1816 01:38:17.560 --> 01:38:20.479 made himself a picture of like himself as Jesus, and 1817 01:38:20.600 --> 01:38:22.319 then he was attacking Pope Leo. 1818 01:38:22.399 --> 01:38:23.159 I guess on X. 1819 01:38:26.720 --> 01:38:29.239 Dude, what the hell is going on? 1820 01:38:31.239 --> 01:38:33.560 Take your DM I'm pulling it up. I'm just I'm like, 1821 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:35.520 that just sounds insane. Let's see, let me pull it 1822 01:38:35.600 --> 01:38:35.840 up here. 1823 01:38:36.319 --> 01:38:39.760 Wow, he's like healing a guy in the hospital bed 1824 01:38:40.039 --> 01:38:41.279 surrounded by like angels. 1825 01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:44.479 And Okay, this is funny because we actually make fun 1826 01:38:44.560 --> 01:38:46.640 of these Boomer memes all the time where Trump is 1827 01:38:46.680 --> 01:38:50.359 like Jesus, and then Trump actually has tweeted the boomer 1828 01:38:50.479 --> 01:38:51.079 Trump memes. 1829 01:38:51.119 --> 01:38:51.800 This is crazy. 1830 01:38:52.960 --> 01:38:57.119 Artie says Trump posted he is Jesus with warplanes healing 1831 01:38:57.319 --> 01:39:02.760 another Boomer in the hospital, and then it says Trump 1832 01:39:02.880 --> 01:39:07.079 turns on terrible Pope. Well, I agree that the popes 1833 01:39:07.079 --> 01:39:10.840 are terrible popes, but not for the reasons that that 1834 01:39:11.439 --> 01:39:12.159 Donald says. 1835 01:39:12.199 --> 01:39:15.880 Here he says, uh, go ahead. 1836 01:39:16.840 --> 01:39:19.039 I was gonna say it seems like it seems like 1837 01:39:19.119 --> 01:39:21.880 he got upset at Leo because Leo recently came out 1838 01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:25.279 and made a statement against the Iran war right, and 1839 01:39:26.079 --> 01:39:27.079 so he's pushing. 1840 01:39:26.960 --> 01:39:28.680 Back on that, not all the other stuff. 1841 01:39:28.720 --> 01:39:32.119 It's like a smoking mirrors distraction exactly. 1842 01:39:32.960 --> 01:39:35.359 Yeah, and again like it's not going to be for 1843 01:39:35.439 --> 01:39:38.560 the right reasons right like that. To me, that's funny 1844 01:39:38.560 --> 01:39:41.279 if he trolls the Pope, but not over an issue 1845 01:39:41.279 --> 01:39:42.760 where Leo happens to be correct. 1846 01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:46.199 I like his brother much better. 1847 01:39:46.279 --> 01:39:52.239 He was Maga doesn't want uh it wants Iran to 1848 01:39:52.279 --> 01:39:59.319 have nuclear weapons. I mean, this is just retarded, dude. 1849 01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:06.359 It's retarded on so many levels too, right, Because remember 1850 01:40:06.399 --> 01:40:08.279 when I put that post up the other day about 1851 01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:13.239 that Leo's actually contradicting the entire history of the papacy 1852 01:40:13.319 --> 01:40:15.479 by saying that there's no such thing as just war. 1853 01:40:15.960 --> 01:40:18.000 God doesn't hear those who wage war. And it's like 1854 01:40:18.239 --> 01:40:20.439 your church has the theory of just war, dude, what 1855 01:40:20.479 --> 01:40:23.000 are you talking about. The Papal States has gone to 1856 01:40:23.159 --> 01:40:28.640 war many many times. The Pope's called crusades. Dude, what 1857 01:40:28.720 --> 01:40:31.640 are you talking about? And then the Roman caltholuices are like, 1858 01:40:31.920 --> 01:40:35.680 what you support is rule? Are you that stupid? I've 1859 01:40:35.720 --> 01:40:39.239 done like forty podcasts against the war in Iran? What 1860 01:40:39.399 --> 01:40:42.560 are you talking about? But I mean, we're talking about 1861 01:40:42.560 --> 01:40:47.079 people who like everyone's a Muslim. Now everyone has become 1862 01:40:47.119 --> 01:40:51.520 a Muslim, they're all Muslim. They cannot think in like 1863 01:40:51.680 --> 01:40:54.199 second order reasoning, like if you, they don't. They can't 1864 01:40:54.279 --> 01:40:57.279 do the breakfast question right, how would you feel if 1865 01:40:57.279 --> 01:41:00.880 you hadn't had breakfast? You said, I don't go no breakfast. 1866 01:41:01.359 --> 01:41:06.279 You said, I don't get to eat breakfast. AI says, 1867 01:41:06.359 --> 01:41:08.800 for five dollars, I paid my dues. I'm squared away 1868 01:41:09.359 --> 01:41:15.119 and I'm on the level. Hands up to Zoltan Zoltan Istahan, 1869 01:41:15.159 --> 01:41:18.560 what are you talking about? Another dumb membro? Fifty dollars. 1870 01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:21.399 It was good to see you visiting the ro Corps Bros. 1871 01:41:21.520 --> 01:41:24.720 Christ has Risen, Hey, yeah, glad to see you as well. 1872 01:41:24.800 --> 01:41:26.199 I did have to skip out early. I know you 1873 01:41:26.239 --> 01:41:28.159 guys thought I was being rude, but I had to 1874 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.920 drive back three hours, and so I slipped out after 1875 01:41:31.960 --> 01:41:35.399 the Pasca service because I had to drive three hours, 1876 01:41:35.840 --> 01:41:37.640 and if I stayed and talked to all you guys, 1877 01:41:37.680 --> 01:41:39.840 I would have been there until ten in the morning, 1878 01:41:40.000 --> 01:41:42.359 so I couldn't stay and talk. I'm sure I'll see 1879 01:41:42.399 --> 01:41:44.479 you guys in the future, though, I wanted to say 1880 01:41:44.560 --> 01:41:46.560 that you helped guide me in Orthodoxy. I found you 1881 01:41:46.640 --> 01:41:50.920 through the book reviews. Book reviews. What book review I 1882 01:41:50.960 --> 01:41:52.199 found orthodoxy? Second? 1883 01:41:52.399 --> 01:41:54.319 Oh you mean books that I covered on my channel? 1884 01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:54.680 Interesting? 1885 01:41:56.039 --> 01:41:59.319 Thank you man, Thank you appreciate that. Yeah, people come 1886 01:41:59.359 --> 01:42:02.119 to orthodox through all kinds of different means, so that's good. 1887 01:42:03.640 --> 01:42:05.720 Professional age two dollars. You should do a video with 1888 01:42:05.840 --> 01:42:07.520 Rob nowhar Yeah, I'm down to. 1889 01:42:07.920 --> 01:42:08.760 Chat with Rob. 1890 01:42:09.600 --> 01:42:11.640 It would be an interesting dynamic between your world views. 1891 01:42:11.680 --> 01:42:15.119 Many would find it entertaining. Yeah, I think I think 1892 01:42:15.159 --> 01:42:16.880 we mentioned that a long time ago, and I didn't 1893 01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:19.239 know who Rob was, but yeah, he seems like a 1894 01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:23.520 good guy. Thomas twenty dollars, big dog. I just checked 1895 01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:26.079 in on your stream. Did you already pull up Trump 1896 01:42:26.159 --> 01:42:28.039 and the Pope beefing? Yeah, we just covered it right now. 1897 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:32.720 Trump mentions that Leo is only there because of him. 1898 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:39.680 Well interesting if that's I mean, Trump's probably being you know, exaggerating, 1899 01:42:39.800 --> 01:42:47.199 But this is also interesting given them what we covered there. 1900 01:42:47.359 --> 01:42:49.720 What a couple of days ago, remember where Cardinal christoph 1901 01:42:49.840 --> 01:42:53.920 was invited to the Pentagon and in January and they 1902 01:42:54.000 --> 01:43:01.399 had this kerfluffle intimidation argument supposedly about Iran and that 1903 01:43:01.640 --> 01:43:07.920 the papacy needs to back down because supposedly the Pentagon 1904 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:14.680 is running shit and they reference the Avignon papacy. It's like, 1905 01:43:15.560 --> 01:43:21.600 this is so bizarre, right, I mean, maybe they're you 1906 01:43:21.760 --> 01:43:24.119 are they using my arguments? I'm joking, but are they 1907 01:43:24.239 --> 01:43:28.640 like using my arguments against Rome to like argue against 1908 01:43:28.720 --> 01:43:31.640 the Leo. This is getting crazy, dude. And by the way, 1909 01:43:31.720 --> 01:43:35.119 are we are live streaming on multiple outlets now, so 1910 01:43:35.239 --> 01:43:38.119 hopefully this continues to work. Well, you can find me 1911 01:43:38.159 --> 01:43:40.800 also on Grumble, You can find me on x as well. 1912 01:43:41.279 --> 01:43:44.119 Thank you guys for these general supers. All right, let's 1913 01:43:44.119 --> 01:43:47.760 get to the rest of Redeemed Zoomer's bad argumentation here 1914 01:43:48.399 --> 01:43:50.720 Protestant culture. I'm gonna skip over that because we just 1915 01:43:50.800 --> 01:43:55.800 covered that. Well, that's a good bad argument predestination appreciation. 1916 01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:59.880 This is not an argument for his for your position 1917 01:44:00.079 --> 01:44:03.960 if you understand christology, because this means that Christ is 1918 01:44:04.000 --> 01:44:08.399 a predestined man and it messes up the Trinitarian crystological 1919 01:44:08.479 --> 01:44:14.079 theology that the Fifth and Sixth Councils lay down, and 1920 01:44:14.239 --> 01:44:18.039 so predestination ends up essentially meaning that the Son of 1921 01:44:18.119 --> 01:44:20.039 God becomes destined in time and space. 1922 01:44:20.199 --> 01:44:20.840 Well, how does a. 1923 01:44:20.880 --> 01:44:23.880 Person of the Trinity become predestined? Right, So you end 1924 01:44:23.960 --> 01:44:27.079 up with a Nestorian Christology. I mean this argument countless times, 1925 01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:33.000 and I think the predestinarian argument against Christology is probably 1926 01:44:33.439 --> 01:44:39.239 one of the strongest other overlooked arguments beyond PSA in 1927 01:44:39.560 --> 01:44:40.439 the Damning of the Sun. 1928 01:44:40.600 --> 01:44:40.720 Right. 1929 01:44:42.000 --> 01:44:44.199 The only problem with that argument is that it's very complex, 1930 01:44:44.239 --> 01:44:46.279 and it gets into the Christology that the Calvinists have 1931 01:44:46.319 --> 01:44:48.119 no idea about. So when you start trying to say 1932 01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:51.000 that you have to have a property of will and 1933 01:44:51.159 --> 01:44:54.439 energy to be to have a human nature, and if 1934 01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:56.720 Christ has our human nation, then it is properly free 1935 01:44:56.840 --> 01:45:00.119 human will and energy, Well, then predestination and money is 1936 01:45:00.359 --> 01:45:07.520 not true. Now we have a subjective argument about the fruits, 1937 01:45:08.399 --> 01:45:16.399 and he's arguing that Orthodoxy does not produce holier people. 1938 01:45:19.000 --> 01:45:22.000 Okay, this, I mean, that's not even a serious argument. 1939 01:45:23.399 --> 01:45:26.079 And then orientals exist. 1940 01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:29.479 So Orthodoxy is not true because there's so because there's disagreement. 1941 01:45:29.560 --> 01:45:33.760 So by that line of argument, if Protestantism has one 1942 01:45:33.800 --> 01:45:37.159 thousand sacks or thirty thousand sacks disagreeing, Protestism isn't true. 1943 01:45:37.159 --> 01:45:38.640 I mean, this is so stupid, dude. 1944 01:45:43.319 --> 01:45:45.880 Because theirs schisms. How do you know which one's true? Again, 1945 01:45:45.960 --> 01:45:49.079 this is an irrelevant line of argumentation in terms of 1946 01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:52.560 what's true. That's like saying, if people disagree that tupless 1947 01:45:52.560 --> 01:45:55.560 two equals four, then you don't know that tupless two 1948 01:45:55.600 --> 01:45:55.840 is four. 1949 01:45:56.119 --> 01:45:58.199 This is a fallacy. It's a stupid line of argument. 1950 01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:06.800 This guy's just holiness is having a family and kids, 1951 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:11.199 it's in Orthodoxy. Thinks it's being on a monk on 1952 01:46:12.039 --> 01:46:14.520 a mountain. Well, does he not realize that within the 1953 01:46:14.600 --> 01:46:18.039 New Testament, Paul talks about the gift of celibacy and 1954 01:46:18.159 --> 01:46:21.920 that it's a gift, and that Mary and Jesus were celibate, 1955 01:46:22.439 --> 01:46:25.520 and that John the Baptist was an ascetic and that 1956 01:46:25.680 --> 01:46:27.840 Elijah was an asthetic. So it's like he doesn't even 1957 01:46:27.880 --> 01:46:34.000 know the biblical tradition is full of asceticism. And what's 1958 01:46:34.039 --> 01:46:39.680 the tenth argument. I don't see the tenth argument. It 1959 01:46:39.760 --> 01:46:43.640 goes from nine, so I don't know if you wanted 1960 01:46:43.800 --> 01:46:45.000 a longer reputation. 1961 01:46:45.159 --> 01:46:48.279 But that was all just really dumb. None of it 1962 01:46:48.399 --> 01:46:49.800 was theological argumentation hardly. 1963 01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:52.920 It's like moral cultural. 1964 01:46:53.239 --> 01:46:57.159 The West is the best right. It's like Jim Morrison 1965 01:46:57.279 --> 01:47:02.439 level argumentation, the West is a little bush. We got 1966 01:47:02.560 --> 01:47:05.680 redeem Zoomer right here literally citing Jim Morrison as like 1967 01:47:07.640 --> 01:47:11.760 his line of argument. Stephen Wolf ten dollars. I'm new 1968 01:47:11.800 --> 01:47:13.920 to Orthodoxy thanks to you. I'm a former Protestant or 1969 01:47:13.920 --> 01:47:17.520 former Freemason. I have questions about Dionysius. I'm looking for 1970 01:47:17.600 --> 01:47:22.720 the best resources. I can't imagine early fathers accepting him 1971 01:47:22.800 --> 01:47:23.680 as a Platonist. 1972 01:47:25.039 --> 01:47:25.319 He's not. 1973 01:47:25.479 --> 01:47:26.640 He's he's not. 1974 01:47:26.840 --> 01:47:30.960 I mean, you could say he's influenced by some Plato ideas. 1975 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.960 But there's a great article at Ortho Christian on Dionysius, 1976 01:47:48.479 --> 01:47:52.279 and it's written by even a Protestant. This was written 1977 01:47:52.319 --> 01:47:57.880 by an Anglican and I think maybe translated by father 1978 01:47:57.920 --> 01:48:01.319 of Stunnyloy and father Steanieloy is one of the great 1979 01:48:01.399 --> 01:48:04.159 Orthodox saints of the last century, I mean theologians. 1980 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:05.439 He is a saint. Now I think he's a saint. No, 1981 01:48:09.239 --> 01:48:10.039 so you can read that. 1982 01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:17.720 Also, by the way, and I'm not a fan of 1983 01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:27.079 Bishop Glitzen at all, but somebody posted my conversation with 1984 01:48:27.479 --> 01:48:31.279 Bishop Glitzen from ten years ago when I met Pago 1985 01:48:31.479 --> 01:48:36.399 Pagot was at this conference here, and this dude digs 1986 01:48:36.479 --> 01:48:40.439 up and finds the craziest, random old shit that I've 1987 01:48:40.520 --> 01:48:44.600 forgotten about, and he posted on my discussion with Bishop 1988 01:48:45.600 --> 01:48:50.479 Alexander on Dionysius. Now, I'm not a fan of Bishop Alexander, 1989 01:48:50.800 --> 01:48:56.960 but he is an authority academically speaking on Dionysius. Now, 1990 01:48:57.039 --> 01:48:59.680 he doesn't accept Dynasyan authorship, so we're not going to 1991 01:48:59.720 --> 01:49:04.960 go into that, but he does trace the influence of 1992 01:49:05.039 --> 01:49:09.720 Dionysius not just from Platonic ideas, but also to the 1993 01:49:09.840 --> 01:49:13.439 Mercaba and the theology of the chariot in Ezekiel. I'm 1994 01:49:13.479 --> 01:49:16.000 not talking about Cabalism. I'm talking about what Cabbalism is 1995 01:49:16.079 --> 01:49:19.359 partly based upon. Right, Cabalism pulls from a lot of 1996 01:49:19.359 --> 01:49:23.039 different sources, so we'll get low tier retards quotingism. 1997 01:49:23.680 --> 01:49:24.600 No, I'm saying that. 1998 01:49:25.199 --> 01:49:28.680 There's a lot of different sources that influence later Cabbalists, 1999 01:49:28.760 --> 01:49:31.520 and one of those is their interpretation of the passages 2000 01:49:31.560 --> 01:49:35.680 in Ezekiel about the chariot. This is chapters one, two, 2001 01:49:35.960 --> 01:49:38.840 and ten, and of course in our theology, that is 2002 01:49:39.039 --> 01:49:42.960 the logos and the chariot that he rides. 2003 01:49:43.399 --> 01:49:45.439 Okay, the living creatures. 2004 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:49.479 Are chariot in that in that passage, so he traces 2005 01:49:49.920 --> 01:49:55.079 the Dionysian celestial hierarchy influences also to that, and in 2006 01:49:55.199 --> 01:50:00.399 that regard he is relevant for your question. I am 2007 01:50:00.479 --> 01:50:21.279 not promoting anything else. However, From Bishop Glidson, another dumb 2008 01:50:21.319 --> 01:50:27.399 membro of fifty dollars, I also heard somebody say that 2009 01:50:27.479 --> 01:50:30.720 you left last night early. I didn't leave the liturgy early. 2010 01:50:30.800 --> 01:50:32.680 I left right after communion because I had to drive 2011 01:50:32.720 --> 01:50:34.760 three hours. I understand. I guarantee you others get it. 2012 01:50:35.279 --> 01:50:38.119 The last thing anyone wants to hear is, hey, bro, 2013 01:50:38.239 --> 01:50:41.239 I got a question. One guy was trying to ask 2014 01:50:41.279 --> 01:50:43.039 me tag questions when I went out to the car 2015 01:50:43.159 --> 01:50:44.319 to drink drink some water. 2016 01:50:44.640 --> 01:50:45.600 I thought it was funny. 2017 01:50:45.760 --> 01:50:48.479 I'm not dissing that guy, so don't get your feelings hurt. 2018 01:50:48.479 --> 01:50:50.680 I'm not dissing. I just thought it was funny that, like. 2019 01:50:50.800 --> 01:50:53.199 If I go to the liturgy and I try to 2020 01:50:53.279 --> 01:50:55.680 slip out, people start asking me tag questions. I just 2021 01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:58.079 thought that was funny, but I was like, Bro, just 2022 01:50:58.119 --> 01:51:00.720 ask me some other times another. I mean, Bro, ten dollars, 2023 01:51:00.760 --> 01:51:03.800 I don't want to bother you. I'm glad to celebrate Pasca. Uh, 2024 01:51:04.000 --> 01:51:06.279 It's okay. I mean understand, people you know, want to 2025 01:51:06.319 --> 01:51:08.399 ask questions and whatnot. I'm not mad at you guys 2026 01:51:08.520 --> 01:51:09.279 or fussing at you guys. 2027 01:51:09.560 --> 01:51:10.880 It's just Uh. 2028 01:51:11.079 --> 01:51:13.479 If I stayed and chatted, I would have been there forever. 2029 01:51:13.640 --> 01:51:16.199 And I'm sure we're going to be back. Uh, and 2030 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:18.399 then we can have you know, all the Q and 2031 01:51:18.439 --> 01:51:20.359 A you guys want the next time I come back. 2032 01:51:21.800 --> 01:51:22.359 But I can't. 2033 01:51:22.840 --> 01:51:26.880 I mean, I was seeing things because it was driving. 2034 01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:31.760 It's five in the morning, dude, Steven Wog ten dollars. 2035 01:51:31.920 --> 01:51:34.720 I'm new to orthodoxy. I'm also former freemason. No, you're 2036 01:51:34.760 --> 01:51:36.880 the guy that asked the Dynastia's. 2037 01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:38.680 Question, Myron, Chuck, what's up? 2038 01:51:38.720 --> 01:51:38.880 Dog? 2039 01:51:42.600 --> 01:51:42.960 Go ahead? 2040 01:51:43.039 --> 01:51:43.319 My man? 2041 01:51:44.560 --> 01:51:48.359 Man, it's hot in here. I'm mute Jason. 2042 01:51:50.520 --> 01:51:51.319 A long time. 2043 01:51:57.199 --> 01:51:59.600 In Uh. 2044 01:52:00.079 --> 01:52:03.319 I think there's a synergy here, especially from what I'm hearing, 2045 01:52:04.560 --> 01:52:08.239 you know, even with the redeem Zemers and that lot 2046 01:52:08.800 --> 01:52:10.439 the I see years here. 2047 01:52:11.119 --> 01:52:13.159 So can you can you speak up? It's hard to 2048 01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:14.960 hear it to you politics, It's hard to hear what 2049 01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:16.920 you're saying, Jason, can you speak up a little bit? 2050 01:52:17.880 --> 01:52:18.159 Sorry? 2051 01:52:18.279 --> 01:52:18.399 Is that? 2052 01:52:18.600 --> 01:52:19.079 Is that better? 2053 01:52:19.239 --> 01:52:20.880 I mean, hopefully. I don't know which mic this. 2054 01:52:21.000 --> 01:52:23.680 Thing's got beyond it's a bad mic, but go ahead 2055 01:52:24.960 --> 01:52:25.399 serve with that. 2056 01:52:26.199 --> 01:52:29.479 I think there's a synergy between like the Protestant space and. 2057 01:52:31.520 --> 01:52:34.760 And the geopolitics space, because when I keep hearing and 2058 01:52:34.880 --> 01:52:37.319 you know, when I had Kim jatrass On, we did 2059 01:52:37.359 --> 01:52:39.359 a full year of talking about. 2060 01:52:42.039 --> 01:52:46.680 Talking about Rogia Ukraine, and one of the big things 2061 01:52:46.800 --> 01:52:50.079 that comes they came away with that is that geopolitics 2062 01:52:50.159 --> 01:52:52.199 is is a dish festter cold. 2063 01:52:52.000 --> 01:52:54.800 Like you can't trying to do, you know, trying to 2064 01:52:54.840 --> 01:52:55.479 do mention. 2065 01:52:55.439 --> 01:52:59.399 Mid analysis right now in twenty twenty six is almost impossible. 2066 01:53:00.159 --> 01:53:03.560 Everything is changing, and they just lie uh and and 2067 01:53:03.960 --> 01:53:06.199 uh and re change their position on the fly, like 2068 01:53:06.239 --> 01:53:09.439 I watched them do it with Russia Ukraine, and I 2069 01:53:09.479 --> 01:53:12.039 think they're doing the same thing with Iran, uh, everybody else. 2070 01:53:12.119 --> 01:53:14.000 So the. 2071 01:53:15.760 --> 01:53:18.359 The long and short of it is that most people shouldn't. 2072 01:53:17.960 --> 01:53:20.880 Be involved in it, like especially if I think if. 2073 01:53:20.920 --> 01:53:23.359 For for Orthodox people, if if it's making you as 2074 01:53:23.399 --> 01:53:26.479 your brother or turning issue brother or turns turns. 2075 01:53:26.239 --> 01:53:26.960 And works to spare. 2076 01:53:27.720 --> 01:53:27.840 Uh. 2077 01:53:28.039 --> 01:53:30.439 That's usually your queue to get to get to to touch, 2078 01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:32.079 grasping back away from it. 2079 01:53:32.199 --> 01:53:33.199 Like stop listening to it. 2080 01:53:33.800 --> 01:53:33.920 Uh. 2081 01:53:34.079 --> 01:53:35.640 It's the same thing with the ft all the rest 2082 01:53:35.680 --> 01:53:36.119 of it as well. 2083 01:53:36.159 --> 01:53:36.399 I think. 2084 01:53:37.960 --> 01:53:39.840 So, I guess the open question for. 2085 01:53:39.880 --> 01:53:46.159 You is is balancing balancing faith with geopolitics, especially analysis 2086 01:53:46.199 --> 01:53:48.359 and and and what you what you think that is 2087 01:53:48.439 --> 01:53:49.000 the best. 2088 01:53:49.800 --> 01:53:50.640 Best remedy for that? 2089 01:53:52.640 --> 01:53:54.439 Well, brother, the way to do it is to become 2090 01:53:54.520 --> 01:53:59.079 a member of the lodge and then we're all the brothers. 2091 01:54:00.000 --> 01:54:05.199 I'm joking. Yeah, I mean it's not for everybody. 2092 01:54:05.279 --> 01:54:07.800 It's not, you know, something that you have to take 2093 01:54:07.880 --> 01:54:10.359 upon yourself to be, you know, interested in or involved 2094 01:54:10.359 --> 01:54:12.600 in these things. I guess it's if you know, but 2095 01:54:13.279 --> 01:54:15.560 God made us all with different proclivities and interests and 2096 01:54:15.800 --> 01:54:17.960 people that are interested in der politics. You know, you 2097 01:54:18.079 --> 01:54:20.920 need people like John Kiryaku who's there, who's Orthodox. He's 2098 01:54:21.600 --> 01:54:25.079 you know, in in the intelligence establishment and eventually becomes 2099 01:54:25.079 --> 01:54:27.520 a whistleblower. So it's great to have voices like him, 2100 01:54:28.760 --> 01:54:30.600 you know, it's great to have voices like Jim Jatras. 2101 01:54:31.159 --> 01:54:34.279 You know, he's he reminds me in many ways of Kuriaku, 2102 01:54:34.399 --> 01:54:35.319 very similar kinds of. 2103 01:54:36.239 --> 01:54:37.439 Takes and calls outs. 2104 01:54:38.279 --> 01:54:42.399 But you know, not necessarily every catechumen or convert or 2105 01:54:43.079 --> 01:54:45.199 young dude has to be involved in these things. And 2106 01:54:45.239 --> 01:54:47.760 I think it's really just a matter of keeping priority straight. 2107 01:54:48.439 --> 01:54:50.880 You know, if if we're putting politics first in the 2108 01:54:50.960 --> 01:54:54.520 sense of uh, you know, getting on here and getting 2109 01:54:54.520 --> 01:54:57.560 angry at people. I'm not calling on Andrew. I'm saying, 2110 01:54:57.680 --> 01:55:00.760 like h Brosey was saying, like if people different political 2111 01:55:00.840 --> 01:55:03.479 takes is becoming a stumbling block, well then you know, 2112 01:55:03.520 --> 01:55:05.319 maybe it is a good time to take a break, 2113 01:55:06.039 --> 01:55:09.079 and you know, not let that get you angry. I mean, 2114 01:55:09.119 --> 01:55:12.000 I think for me, uh, you know, I can have 2115 01:55:12.079 --> 01:55:14.079 an exchange where I disagree with Andrew Meyer and we 2116 01:55:14.119 --> 01:55:16.840 can just we can debate it and be even still 2117 01:55:16.920 --> 01:55:22.079 be friendly. And I would imagine anybody else that because 2118 01:55:22.159 --> 01:55:26.279 I just don't view politics as it's not my main thing, right, 2119 01:55:27.239 --> 01:55:30.079 and even Andrew is pretty good at even though politics 2120 01:55:30.199 --> 01:55:34.880 is his main thing, it doesn't he he doesn't take 2121 01:55:34.920 --> 01:55:37.560 it on and then like get furious at everybody. Right, 2122 01:55:37.640 --> 01:55:40.079 he can have a debate with Owen Schroyer and they 2123 01:55:40.119 --> 01:55:43.760 can disagree and still be friendly. So I think, ah, 2124 01:55:45.600 --> 01:55:50.680 we would do well to not let politics be an 2125 01:55:50.720 --> 01:55:55.239 issue where we are furious and angry at people as 2126 01:55:55.279 --> 01:56:00.159 hard as hard as it is. Now I can hear you, now, 2127 01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:00.600 I can hear you. 2128 01:56:01.279 --> 01:56:02.279 Yeah, much better, go ahead. 2129 01:56:02.960 --> 01:56:03.159 Good. 2130 01:56:03.960 --> 01:56:06.239 I just caught a clip of you talking with Harris 2131 01:56:06.319 --> 01:56:10.640 and you you started off the clip talking about essentially 2132 01:56:10.640 --> 01:56:10.880 it is. 2133 01:56:10.840 --> 01:56:13.359 A spiritual war. I know. I think you and I 2134 01:56:13.439 --> 01:56:16.960 are on the same side, uh, on the Christian. 2135 01:56:16.680 --> 01:56:20.720 Nationalism kind of topic where it's it's a nice idea, 2136 01:56:20.800 --> 01:56:22.840 but which Christianity are we talking about here? And we 2137 01:56:23.000 --> 01:56:25.119 need to get also, get to fundamentals before we even 2138 01:56:25.159 --> 01:56:26.640 talk talking about nationalism or anything. 2139 01:56:27.039 --> 01:56:28.920 Yeah, well, I mean, Pete Heg said, just had Doug 2140 01:56:28.960 --> 01:56:32.920 Wilson saying we're going to ban Orthodox Catholic stuff in 2141 01:56:33.039 --> 01:56:35.119 our Christian nationalist state. 2142 01:56:35.239 --> 01:56:36.720 Well, that proves my point. 2143 01:56:38.479 --> 01:56:40.399 Right, Which Christianity are we talking about here? 2144 01:56:40.479 --> 01:56:40.600 Right? 2145 01:56:41.640 --> 01:56:43.560 And anything that shines any kind of true light on 2146 01:56:43.640 --> 01:56:45.720 any on any of these things is going to be 2147 01:56:45.720 --> 01:56:46.319 athema to. 2148 01:56:46.399 --> 01:56:47.399 These fine folks. 2149 01:56:48.560 --> 01:56:52.119 So the but to get back to the fundamentals is 2150 01:56:52.199 --> 01:56:54.479 like the one thing we start to change is not 2151 01:56:54.680 --> 01:56:55.319 just ourselves. 2152 01:56:55.399 --> 01:56:59.399 We repent for ourselves, but we start working u the 2153 01:56:59.479 --> 01:57:01.600 outreach to be on a community level. 2154 01:57:02.199 --> 01:57:04.479 It's building blocks rather than trying to think of the 2155 01:57:05.319 --> 01:57:06.239 of the final building. 2156 01:57:06.319 --> 01:57:08.800 Right, we're at foundation level stuff. 2157 01:57:08.800 --> 01:57:11.960 I keep saying to people, it's best to think of 2158 01:57:12.159 --> 01:57:15.039 we don't live in a civilization anymore. That doesn't mean 2159 01:57:15.079 --> 01:57:17.720 we can't again, it just means that we don't have 2160 01:57:17.880 --> 01:57:20.800 that right now. Right, we have all the moon, we 2161 01:57:20.880 --> 01:57:23.239 have the buildings, the nice stuff, we have the tech, 2162 01:57:23.319 --> 01:57:26.359 but we don't have the actual building blocks, the foundation 2163 01:57:26.479 --> 01:57:27.199 of civilization. 2164 01:57:27.800 --> 01:57:29.840 And so we need to rebuild that first. 2165 01:57:30.439 --> 01:57:33.239 And as we build that, then we can maybe you know, 2166 01:57:33.359 --> 01:57:36.439 generationally speaking, maybe my great great grandkids can start talking. 2167 01:57:36.239 --> 01:57:39.800 About civiliz Yeah, we need to think long term exactly right. 2168 01:57:40.399 --> 01:57:43.000 Good, Okay, remember I am back in contents. 2169 01:57:43.039 --> 01:57:45.439 Basically my blessings restored, so I will be reaching out 2170 01:57:45.520 --> 01:57:46.640 and God bless you. 2171 01:57:46.760 --> 01:57:48.000 For all you do, my friend. 2172 01:57:49.399 --> 01:57:53.079 Thank you Jason. Yeah, I appreciate you calling in great comments. Yeah, 2173 01:57:53.119 --> 01:57:55.159 I think we just have to not make politics and idol. 2174 01:57:55.199 --> 01:57:59.880 And you know I didn't check out of politics, but 2175 01:58:00.119 --> 01:58:03.479 I didn't I don't care as much about politics nowadays 2176 01:58:03.479 --> 01:58:06.159 as I did when I was you know, in my 2177 01:58:06.319 --> 01:58:08.680 twenties or when I was falling wrong Paul or whatever, 2178 01:58:08.920 --> 01:58:11.760 and I can for me, I can like enter and 2179 01:58:11.880 --> 01:58:15.800 exit the political space and it doesn't bother me because 2180 01:58:15.800 --> 01:58:19.800 I'm not people get so hyped up and treat politics 2181 01:58:19.840 --> 01:58:24.239 as a religion, and then when people disagree I'm talking about, 2182 01:58:24.239 --> 01:58:26.079 I'm not calling on a shprosey. I'm just giving a 2183 01:58:26.239 --> 01:58:28.840 general statement here, like when people disagree, then it's like 2184 01:58:29.760 --> 01:58:34.840 I can't believe or political take well, Like for me, 2185 01:58:35.039 --> 01:58:38.600 politics is way downstream from the other things, and most 2186 01:58:38.640 --> 01:58:40.880 people don't see it that way. I understand most for 2187 01:58:41.039 --> 01:58:44.520 most Americans, politics is a religion and they don't see 2188 01:58:44.560 --> 01:58:49.039 things as downstream from it. And since I do, I'm 2189 01:58:49.079 --> 01:58:52.279 not really bothered by any of these goobers or people 2190 01:58:52.319 --> 01:58:55.920 that are out here who have different different positions. I'm 2191 01:58:55.920 --> 01:58:58.760 speaking in general of all the sphere. Like you know, 2192 01:58:59.600 --> 01:59:03.039 when I see Andrew Tate's posts, when I see Pearls posts, 2193 01:59:03.079 --> 01:59:07.600 when I see who like none of these posts, they 2194 01:59:07.640 --> 01:59:10.760 don't bother me. Like I'm not worried about it. I'm 2195 01:59:10.800 --> 01:59:14.800 not triggered. I do get triggered when I see like 2196 01:59:14.920 --> 01:59:17.479 Trent Horne or somebody like that that triggers me. But 2197 01:59:17.720 --> 01:59:20.159 like a political shit I don't care about. I mean, 2198 01:59:20.159 --> 01:59:22.039 I'll comment on it, make fun of it or whatever, 2199 01:59:22.119 --> 01:59:31.479 but just people get so triggered by everyone in every sphere, 2200 01:59:32.520 --> 01:59:36.039 and to me, I'm just like, who cares? Like, who 2201 01:59:36.119 --> 01:59:38.760 cares about what rendo people are saying on Twitter? It's 2202 01:59:38.800 --> 01:59:45.279 just it's weird. Mark, do you want to say something? 2203 01:59:45.279 --> 01:59:56.439 I know you've been waiting a while, Hey, Jay Yop, I. 2204 01:59:57.319 --> 01:59:59.640 I just wanted to say, like, I went to my 2205 01:59:59.760 --> 02:00:04.840 phone orthodox service last Palm. 2206 02:00:04.680 --> 02:00:08.680 Sunday, and I just want to commend you and the 2207 02:00:08.760 --> 02:00:13.119 Wilson's and Cleve and Alex and all those folks on. 2208 02:00:13.279 --> 02:00:13.800 What you're doing. 2209 02:00:13.880 --> 02:00:18.159 It's it's it was amazing good. I didn't go to 2210 02:00:18.239 --> 02:00:21.479 Pasca or anything because I'm just you know, I'm inquiring 2211 02:00:21.600 --> 02:00:23.279 and that's that's a. 2212 02:00:23.279 --> 02:00:24.520 Big step for a guy. 2213 02:00:25.359 --> 02:00:27.239 Well, POSCO would have been pretty intense if it was 2214 02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:27.880 your first one. 2215 02:00:28.720 --> 02:00:31.239 Like I was just I was thinking that last night. 2216 02:00:31.319 --> 02:00:33.560 I was like, I was like, imagine if this was 2217 02:00:33.600 --> 02:00:34.479 your first service. 2218 02:00:34.680 --> 02:00:37.760 Like I didn't even leave the narthex. 2219 02:00:37.880 --> 02:00:39.760 I didn't go into the tabernacle or anything. 2220 02:00:39.800 --> 02:00:41.399 I like I just I had to stay. 2221 02:00:41.199 --> 02:00:46.880 There because it was it was a lot. But you know, 2222 02:00:47.119 --> 02:00:48.239 as a guy they grew up. 2223 02:00:49.079 --> 02:00:49.960 I'm in Texas, I. 2224 02:00:49.960 --> 02:00:53.159 Grew up in the Church of Christ, you know, the 2225 02:00:53.319 --> 02:00:56.439 Barton Stone Stone Campbell movement. 2226 02:00:56.640 --> 02:01:03.199 And but it's it's so encouraging. 2227 02:01:04.159 --> 02:01:05.159 What you guys are doing. 2228 02:01:06.000 --> 02:01:11.279 And yeah, I don't even know what to say, but 2229 02:01:11.399 --> 02:01:12.199 I just. 2230 02:01:12.279 --> 02:01:18.680 Wanted to commend you on, you know, the content you're 2231 02:01:18.680 --> 02:01:21.560 putting out there, of the education, uh. 2232 02:01:21.920 --> 02:01:23.000 That all of us are getting. 2233 02:01:24.079 --> 02:01:27.439 Man, I appreciate that, Appreciate the kind words. You know, 2234 02:01:27.479 --> 02:01:29.600 we still get a lot of haters, a lot of opposition, 2235 02:01:29.760 --> 02:01:33.000 a lot of creeps and weirdos every day. So I 2236 02:01:33.079 --> 02:01:35.560 appreciate that. You guys saw the guy the other day 2237 02:01:35.640 --> 02:01:38.399 saying he was going to come unlive me on discords. 2238 02:01:38.479 --> 02:01:41.920 So it's nice to have, you know, people speaking up 2239 02:01:41.960 --> 02:01:45.600 and being positive. Appreciate that. Uh, let's see, we got 2240 02:01:46.079 --> 02:01:48.800 swinters two dollars. What do you think about Roman Catholicism's 2241 02:01:48.840 --> 02:01:51.720 tragedy of merits doctrine. I actually think it's an overlooked 2242 02:01:51.840 --> 02:01:52.880 argument refuting Rome. 2243 02:01:52.920 --> 02:01:53.920 It's so preposterous. 2244 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:57.920 The whole idea totally ampathetical to anything in the first 2245 02:01:57.960 --> 02:02:01.319 thousand years of Christianity. It's utterly props astros and it 2246 02:02:01.359 --> 02:02:06.720 should be utilized more to a review refute Rome Kevin 2247 02:02:06.800 --> 02:02:08.800 Ruse two dollars you missed my super chat. I'm trying 2248 02:02:08.800 --> 02:02:09.239 to get through them. 2249 02:02:09.239 --> 02:02:09.760 Man, there's a lot. 2250 02:02:09.920 --> 02:02:19.319 Let's see Perez became a member. Will you do another 2251 02:02:19.359 --> 02:02:21.640 regime zoom Er debate? I know he wanted to debate, 2252 02:02:23.880 --> 02:02:26.239 do a debate with Nick flintes with Corey Feldman as 2253 02:02:26.239 --> 02:02:30.199 a mediator. That sounds awesome, but I think you know, 2254 02:02:30.319 --> 02:02:33.199 Nick made it clear he's not interested in any theological debates. 2255 02:02:33.479 --> 02:02:36.600 And the only reason that ker fluff will happen was 2256 02:02:36.680 --> 02:02:38.760 because somebody asked me if I would debate him again. 2257 02:02:38.760 --> 02:02:41.800 I said yeah, and then people clipped that and all 2258 02:02:42.039 --> 02:02:44.880 he's trying to go after Nick. I just said I 2259 02:02:44.960 --> 02:02:50.199 would because I don't typically turn down debates unless it's 2260 02:02:50.239 --> 02:02:52.840 like an insane person or something like that, or or 2261 02:02:52.960 --> 02:02:55.479 somebody that I've already debated a whole bunch like Daniel Hooke. 2262 02:02:55.640 --> 02:02:57.319 Getch you I think you wanted to do another debate, 2263 02:02:57.399 --> 02:02:58.800 and I was just like, come on, due, We've already 2264 02:02:58.800 --> 02:02:59.720 on the same debate twice. 2265 02:03:00.560 --> 02:03:01.319 And then there was a. 2266 02:03:04.560 --> 02:03:04.680 Or No. 2267 02:03:04.760 --> 02:03:06.560 Maybe I only debated Daniel once. I can't remember. 2268 02:03:11.119 --> 02:03:13.000 I would like to debate another one of the Muslims 2269 02:03:13.000 --> 02:03:16.560 I haven't debated, uh, Muhammed a Job or Ali Dawa. 2270 02:03:16.640 --> 02:03:20.520 I guess there's only two that are left. Somebody said 2271 02:03:20.560 --> 02:03:23.039 debate Adam Green. I mean, come on, man, that guy's 2272 02:03:23.119 --> 02:03:26.000 just it's the same load tier stuff. You already debated Gem, 2273 02:03:26.039 --> 02:03:27.960 you already debated Hotel, you already debated Andrew. It's just 2274 02:03:28.000 --> 02:03:33.399 going to be the same stuff all over again. Debrate, 2275 02:03:33.640 --> 02:03:41.439 debate Frank Truck with Candas as a moderator. Okay, yeah, sure, 2276 02:03:41.439 --> 02:03:44.039 I'll debate Frank Truck. Yeah, but I mean I don't 2277 02:03:44.039 --> 02:03:46.800 think of these people want to do a debate little 2278 02:03:46.880 --> 02:03:49.119 Natty for two dollars. Do you have any videos about 2279 02:03:49.159 --> 02:03:49.920 Gog and may Dog? 2280 02:03:50.399 --> 02:03:50.439 No? 2281 02:03:50.479 --> 02:03:53.840 I don't have any videos on that. Maybe allergy is 2282 02:03:53.880 --> 02:03:56.800 going crazy right now, dude, I'm looking for your super chat, 2283 02:03:57.039 --> 02:04:02.119 uh Keevan, I did read one here super chats. Maybe 2284 02:04:02.119 --> 02:04:08.119 you missed it. Oh, let's see. I don't see another 2285 02:04:08.159 --> 02:04:11.800 super chat that I missed from you. And we even 2286 02:04:11.840 --> 02:04:20.159 got to Builderberg Myrin, Chuck, did you want to say 2287 02:04:20.159 --> 02:04:35.399 something else? I'm mute. 2288 02:04:35.640 --> 02:04:36.079 Are you there? 2289 02:04:40.960 --> 02:04:43.119 Michael says, for ten dollars, what is the point of 2290 02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:44.840 the Tree of Knowledge and what was the original purpose 2291 02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:45.520 about him and Eve? 2292 02:04:46.439 --> 02:04:46.560 Uh? 2293 02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:50.399 The original purpose wasn't for them to achieve diosis by 2294 02:04:51.520 --> 02:04:54.359 being virtuous and learning virtue. And had they learned virtue, 2295 02:04:54.399 --> 02:04:56.800 then they could have eaten the tree of knowledge and 2296 02:04:56.880 --> 02:05:03.239 they would have been able to hand that level of 2297 02:05:03.720 --> 02:05:06.680 you know that they would have been able to handle 2298 02:05:06.760 --> 02:05:11.439 the knowledge because they've been secured in virtue. That's the 2299 02:05:11.520 --> 02:05:13.680 uster from Father teaching. Because of course God doesn't create 2300 02:05:13.720 --> 02:05:17.720 anything evil in itself, so that that tree was not 2301 02:05:18.279 --> 02:05:21.159 in itself evil, But they needed to be established in 2302 02:05:21.239 --> 02:05:23.840 virtue before they would have could have had could have 2303 02:05:23.960 --> 02:05:28.159 had access to that. But because they didn't get established 2304 02:05:28.159 --> 02:05:31.279 in virtue, they were not prepared for that and thus 2305 02:05:31.359 --> 02:05:40.159 it led to the fall. So great question, though, Let's see, 2306 02:05:40.159 --> 02:05:44.399 here's a question about Rob. Nowher it says Rob Brennan's 2307 02:05:44.520 --> 02:05:45.600 Brennan bell toon dollars. 2308 02:05:45.680 --> 02:05:46.279 Rob is a good guy. 2309 02:05:46.319 --> 02:05:48.800 He's supposed to be debating a Nigerian scammer who took 2310 02:05:48.880 --> 02:05:51.119 his account on Wednesday? Are you joking to being serious? 2311 02:05:51.159 --> 02:06:02.279 That sounds hilarious and for Chief eight quadd Old Dingle 2312 02:06:02.920 --> 02:06:07.079 with John Pork as moderator. Okay, I don't know what 2313 02:06:07.199 --> 02:06:16.680 that is, but yes, sure, I'm looking for your other 2314 02:06:16.760 --> 02:06:21.319 super check Kievan Rus. And by the way, David David 2315 02:06:22.079 --> 02:06:24.079 JD one two three, why are you not calling in? 2316 02:06:24.239 --> 02:06:24.439 Dude? 2317 02:06:24.439 --> 02:06:26.760 You're you're the one that's in here talking so much smack. 2318 02:06:28.079 --> 02:06:29.119 I want you to come on and. 2319 02:06:30.039 --> 02:06:34.800 Debate, collab with Alex on power metal and have a 2320 02:06:34.920 --> 02:06:40.119 rap nineties wrap section. Perez says for five dollars. Okay, dude, 2321 02:06:46.279 --> 02:06:52.800 Kievan Rus, I'm not seeing it, man, I'm scrolling. Oh 2322 02:06:52.880 --> 02:06:55.000 here it is, no I read this one. You said 2323 02:06:55.039 --> 02:06:57.880 for five dollars to add to the petro dollar argument. 2324 02:06:58.960 --> 02:07:00.640 It's a neuter and anim me at any time the 2325 02:07:00.680 --> 02:07:05.479 adversars are building their militaries to solidify US dominance. I 2326 02:07:05.600 --> 02:07:06.279 responded to that. 2327 02:07:09.439 --> 02:07:10.359 Terry, ten dollars. 2328 02:07:11.560 --> 02:07:17.760 Did you know that Baptists argue for disestablishmentarianism and religious liberty. Yeah, 2329 02:07:17.800 --> 02:07:20.399 of course, I've made this argument many times. This is 2330 02:07:20.439 --> 02:07:24.720 the heritage of the Radical Reformation. You guys don't listen 2331 02:07:24.960 --> 02:07:28.720 like you. Guys that asked me these questions, not you, 2332 02:07:28.920 --> 02:07:32.199 but the guy that was the David guy saying that 2333 02:07:35.920 --> 02:07:39.399 I think that the Founding Fathers fail because they weren't Orthodox. Well, actually, yeah, 2334 02:07:39.520 --> 02:07:44.159 like anybody who isn't Orthodox is ultimately going to fail 2335 02:07:44.239 --> 02:07:48.560 in this sense of like creating the type of civilization 2336 02:07:48.800 --> 02:07:52.039 that God wants. But that doesn't mean that it's all 2337 02:07:52.119 --> 02:07:54.479 or nothing, Like they didn't still do some good things. 2338 02:07:54.520 --> 02:08:02.399 It's just super low tier stuff. All right, Let's listen 2339 02:08:02.399 --> 02:08:04.199 to a little bit of what Dan Dix has said 2340 02:08:04.199 --> 02:08:06.960 about Builderberg, because this ties perfectly into what we were 2341 02:08:06.960 --> 02:08:09.920 talking about tonight with Kissinger and sort of creating the 2342 02:08:09.960 --> 02:08:14.000 petro dollar reliance which allows for the excuse of foreign 2343 02:08:14.079 --> 02:08:14.920 intervention everywhere. 2344 02:08:15.159 --> 02:08:17.920 Then, while the rest of the world is distracted by 2345 02:08:18.039 --> 02:08:22.159 Brett and Circus headlines, the real power brokers, the ones 2346 02:08:22.239 --> 02:08:26.399 who actually run the show, are once again locking themselves 2347 02:08:26.439 --> 02:08:31.560 away behind closed doors, behind armed guards, and behind a 2348 02:08:31.800 --> 02:08:33.560 total media blackout. 2349 02:08:33.840 --> 02:08:36.920 For the twenty twenty six Builderberg conference. 2350 02:08:36.640 --> 02:08:40.319 There is virtually no press coverage other than those of 2351 02:08:40.439 --> 02:08:42.720 us who are here with our boots on the ground 2352 02:08:42.880 --> 02:08:47.199 doing this reporting. There's no public minutes, and there's no accountability. 2353 02:08:47.520 --> 02:08:53.880 Just billionaires, banksters and politicians, tech overlords and media gatekeepers 2354 02:08:54.039 --> 02:08:57.079 who are deciding the direction of the world while the 2355 02:08:57.199 --> 02:09:00.399 rest of us are all told it's just a private chat. 2356 02:09:00.640 --> 02:09:02.920 This time, they are in Washington. 2357 02:09:02.600 --> 02:09:07.079 DC, and they've got some serious security, an army of police, 2358 02:09:07.319 --> 02:09:09.920 and a guest list that reads like a who's who 2359 02:09:10.159 --> 02:09:12.439 of everyone who hates your freedoms. 2360 02:09:12.680 --> 02:09:15.880 So in this video, I'm gonna spell it all out 2361 02:09:15.960 --> 02:09:16.239 for you. 2362 02:09:16.439 --> 02:09:19.760 I'm gonna cover the official agenda of this year's meeting, 2363 02:09:20.039 --> 02:09:22.439 and I'm gonna list some of the notable names who 2364 02:09:22.560 --> 02:09:26.960 are in attendance, because once you see the connections, you 2365 02:09:27.079 --> 02:09:30.159 won't be able to unsee them. But just before I do, 2366 02:09:30.399 --> 02:09:32.920 please remember to take one minute to visit this go 2367 02:09:33.119 --> 02:09:34.800 get funding campaign. 2368 02:09:34.720 --> 02:09:36.119 To help me with my coverage. 2369 02:09:36.159 --> 02:09:38.680 Here where I'll be exposing the world's most powerful and 2370 02:09:38.800 --> 02:09:41.359 influential people, I'll be getting up description. 2371 02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:42.159 All right, guys. 2372 02:09:42.239 --> 02:09:45.079 First of all, the Prime Minister of Canada, Mark Carney 2373 02:09:45.319 --> 02:09:49.079 and the Minister of Finance Francois Felippe Champagne. We're on 2374 02:09:49.359 --> 02:09:52.399 the leaked list, but that looks like it has since 2375 02:09:52.479 --> 02:09:56.119 been revised. It seems that Mark Carney getting a majority 2376 02:09:56.279 --> 02:10:00.640 government in Canada has taken precedence over Bildeberg just because 2377 02:10:00.680 --> 02:10:03.680 they're not on the official list, that doesn't mean that 2378 02:10:03.760 --> 02:10:04.239 they might. 2379 02:10:04.159 --> 02:10:04.800 Not show up. 2380 02:10:04.960 --> 02:10:09.479 And this is why I'm here to find those key discrepancies, 2381 02:10:09.840 --> 02:10:12.239 as I've done in previous years. So that means the 2382 02:10:12.359 --> 02:10:16.840 only notable Canadian at this year's meeting is none other 2383 02:10:16.920 --> 02:10:20.640 than Christia Freeland, the former Deputy Prime Minister and former 2384 02:10:20.760 --> 02:10:22.720 Minister of Transport and Internal. 2385 02:10:22.800 --> 02:10:27.079 So again this demonstrates the strata of power of the 2386 02:10:27.199 --> 02:10:31.840 corporate banking elite that are above the political class, and 2387 02:10:31.920 --> 02:10:35.079 they have a tremendous amount of influence and power sort 2388 02:10:35.119 --> 02:10:40.560 of handing down the agenda to people at CFR, people 2389 02:10:40.600 --> 02:10:43.640 at Trilateral and those are the people then that influence 2390 02:10:43.760 --> 02:10:46.920 and tell politicians what to do. So that's the supra 2391 02:10:47.159 --> 02:10:52.279 international elite that are above the political class that again 2392 02:10:52.600 --> 02:10:54.880 will tell people like Karney and others what to do. 2393 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:57.840 I mean Mark Carney was in Builderberg previously and then 2394 02:10:57.880 --> 02:11:01.680 he's going to you know then Ohal Office in Canada. 2395 02:11:02.359 --> 02:11:05.399 And we see this pretty consistently going back many many decades. 2396 02:11:05.560 --> 02:11:07.439 And if you don't know about this, I would say 2397 02:11:07.640 --> 02:11:12.560 begin with Daniel Esslin's classic book, The Story of the 2398 02:11:12.600 --> 02:11:16.520 Bilderberg Group, which was one of my early conspiracy texts. 2399 02:11:17.279 --> 02:11:20.439 This came out in two thousand and seven. It's by 2400 02:11:20.520 --> 02:11:21.760 my publisher, Trying Day. 2401 02:11:22.520 --> 02:11:25.079 It is a classic. I've done probably four or five 2402 02:11:25.159 --> 02:11:29.359 podcasts over the years with Daniel Esslin. Really intelligent person, 2403 02:11:32.000 --> 02:11:35.640 very good analyst. He understands the big picture who the 2404 02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:40.000 real power elite are, kind of like Patrick Kennington type 2405 02:11:40.039 --> 02:11:40.319 of guy. 2406 02:11:40.840 --> 02:11:42.640 Don't agree with everything that Patrick says. 2407 02:11:42.640 --> 02:11:45.399 I don't agree with everything that Daniel Esselin says, but 2408 02:11:45.479 --> 02:11:48.279 I can learn from people that I disagree with, and 2409 02:11:48.319 --> 02:11:49.920 I think that's a key thing to take away as 2410 02:11:49.960 --> 02:11:53.640 well when it comes to like the political discourse. Even 2411 02:11:53.680 --> 02:11:57.000 when you hear people you disagree with, listen to their arguments, 2412 02:11:57.359 --> 02:11:59.439 hear out what they're saying. It's only going to make 2413 02:11:59.479 --> 02:12:03.479 you a better debater to actually hear and process and 2414 02:12:03.640 --> 02:12:07.079 understand even the opponents and people that you don't like. 2415 02:12:07.199 --> 02:12:09.279 So even if you don't like somebody, you have to 2416 02:12:09.359 --> 02:12:12.800 force yourself to steal man their position and that will 2417 02:12:12.840 --> 02:12:13.800 make you a better debater. 2418 02:12:16.720 --> 02:12:17.840 Kevin rus five dollars. 2419 02:12:17.920 --> 02:12:20.880 I was it was spot. It was about Epstein, No worries. 2420 02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:22.319 Blessed Paska, Thank you. 2421 02:12:22.399 --> 02:12:22.920 For what you do. 2422 02:12:24.439 --> 02:12:28.800 Okay, I'll scroll back I saw your Military Industrial Complex tweet. 2423 02:12:29.520 --> 02:12:31.720 I did our uh super chat. I didn't see one 2424 02:12:31.720 --> 02:12:36.319 about Epstein. Let me see, where's that David J. 2425 02:12:36.479 --> 02:12:36.640 Guy. 2426 02:12:36.720 --> 02:12:39.920 He needs to call in and he's talking smack. I 2427 02:12:40.000 --> 02:12:41.960 can't stand when people talk smack in the chat and 2428 02:12:41.960 --> 02:12:43.039 they won't call in a debate. 2429 02:12:43.560 --> 02:12:44.279 Drives me crazy. 2430 02:12:48.960 --> 02:12:57.560 Okay, I see you're super chat about m I see, okay, 2431 02:12:57.600 --> 02:13:04.439 here it is Kevin Ruth's five dollars. That dude was dumb. 2432 02:13:04.640 --> 02:13:08.079 But Epstein was banned, informed on, and arrested, ordered and 2433 02:13:08.159 --> 02:13:10.239 released by and under Trump. I know that. 2434 02:13:10.399 --> 02:13:11.399 I've argued that. 2435 02:13:11.600 --> 02:13:14.079 Remember when people were attacking me because I said Trump 2436 02:13:14.840 --> 02:13:17.760 went to the FBI and was talking to them about Epstein. 2437 02:13:17.840 --> 02:13:24.520 I know that, like I said that, But what I'm 2438 02:13:24.560 --> 02:13:25.079 saying is. 2439 02:13:26.800 --> 02:13:31.600 It's under Trump and his administration with Bondie and Patel 2440 02:13:31.760 --> 02:13:36.119 and these people, that we got all of this tomfoolery 2441 02:13:36.359 --> 02:13:41.279 and bumblery and bullshit. And it's that Justice Department that 2442 02:13:44.119 --> 02:13:50.319 redacted the perpetrators and all of these horendous people in 2443 02:13:50.399 --> 02:13:55.800 all these insane level emails. And so that's what I'm saying. 2444 02:13:57.680 --> 02:14:00.319 That's what I was arguing to the idiot. Freemason guy, 2445 02:14:04.560 --> 02:14:07.520 Alex Orthodox five dollars. The next time you debate the 2446 02:14:07.560 --> 02:14:09.760 black Keeper Israeli guy, will you correct him on the 2447 02:14:09.880 --> 02:14:14.399 ass x Ax distinction. Yeah, a lot of people don't 2448 02:14:14.439 --> 02:14:17.199 know that. For Orthodox, they haves it's an inter distinction. 2449 02:14:17.319 --> 02:14:19.720 But for the black Keeper Israelites, they have a real 2450 02:14:19.880 --> 02:14:25.159 problem with the ask Ax distinction. They cannot keep getting 2451 02:14:25.159 --> 02:14:28.520 away with it. Christis Risen Indidias. Thank you, Alex Nifts 2452 02:14:28.560 --> 02:14:31.600 ten dollars. Is the Boulet Society relevant at all? I mean, 2453 02:14:31.600 --> 02:14:34.159 I think it's relevant. We've actually talked about that with 2454 02:14:35.319 --> 02:14:38.439 when I was on Sam Hide's PGL right, perfect guy Life. 2455 02:14:38.640 --> 02:14:42.840 Me and Nick talks extensively in the same as well 2456 02:14:42.880 --> 02:14:46.800 about Black secret societies. I think they play a key 2457 02:14:46.920 --> 02:14:52.279 role in influencing and steering the black networks. You know, 2458 02:14:52.680 --> 02:14:56.239 prominent Black people they have their own, you know, secret 2459 02:14:56.279 --> 02:14:58.920 societies and networks that are kind of quasi Masonic with 2460 02:14:59.119 --> 02:15:02.880 things like that. I don't know to what degree they 2461 02:15:02.960 --> 02:15:09.039 have influence over you know, Kanye or not Kanye, Lebron 2462 02:15:09.199 --> 02:15:11.119 James and people that are you know, allegedly in the 2463 02:15:11.159 --> 02:15:14.399 Bulat society, But I would imagine that it's just you know, 2464 02:15:14.479 --> 02:15:16.640 the way the system works. For example, if you think 2465 02:15:16.640 --> 02:15:19.159 about Builderberg, a lot of the people that go to 2466 02:15:19.199 --> 02:15:22.439 Builderberg are also members of the CFR, and those people 2467 02:15:22.479 --> 02:15:24.680 are also members of the Trilateral Commission, so they're all 2468 02:15:24.800 --> 02:15:27.720 kind of in the same steering groups and committees. And 2469 02:15:29.520 --> 02:15:32.119 you know, people at the level of Brazinski or Kissinger 2470 02:15:32.359 --> 02:15:36.239 or Rockefeller or now we realize Epstein. You know, they 2471 02:15:36.279 --> 02:15:39.239 can be members of all these different things, and they 2472 02:15:39.279 --> 02:15:45.119 can kind of interact with people in other societies and networks, 2473 02:15:45.560 --> 02:15:48.720 and that's how the power structure works. You guys may 2474 02:15:48.800 --> 02:15:51.840 remember this classic infographic which if you go to info Wars, 2475 02:15:52.920 --> 02:15:55.960 if you're in the studios, I'm saying, Alex has this giant, 2476 02:15:57.520 --> 02:15:59.279 massive wall sized poster. 2477 02:16:00.239 --> 02:16:05.920 H h. 2478 02:16:09.560 --> 02:16:14.479 And uh this infographic is just looking at media people 2479 02:16:14.800 --> 02:16:18.720 and this is a few years old. But oh, come on, 2480 02:16:18.840 --> 02:16:29.319 now it's not gonna come up. It used to come up, 2481 02:16:29.359 --> 02:16:32.399 but I guess Google is blocking that image. Now let 2482 02:16:32.479 --> 02:16:34.319 me try. Uh, so if I can pull it up 2483 02:16:34.319 --> 02:16:39.120 over here on something else, h. 2484 02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:55.040 Here it is. 2485 02:16:55.120 --> 02:16:58.360 I found it. So you have to go to like 2486 02:16:59.559 --> 02:17:21.000 Russian search engines to make this come up. So it's 2487 02:17:21.000 --> 02:17:23.000 still not a high high def image, but you can. 2488 02:17:23.159 --> 02:17:24.719 You can, if you search around, you can find the 2489 02:17:24.799 --> 02:17:27.600 real high deaf image. But basically it's just showing you 2490 02:17:30.479 --> 02:17:33.440 that the same people in media that are in the 2491 02:17:33.559 --> 02:17:37.600 CFR also go to Charlateral and they also attend Builderberg. 2492 02:17:37.719 --> 02:17:37.840 Right. 2493 02:17:37.920 --> 02:17:40.680 And it's all the heads of every mainstream outlet, right, 2494 02:17:40.840 --> 02:17:48.120 So you've got everybody from Facebook to Disney to Washington Post, Fox, right, 2495 02:17:48.680 --> 02:17:52.440 all the media heads are all at the same events 2496 02:17:52.479 --> 02:17:59.440 and meetings. So again like easy reference right here, proving 2497 02:18:00.760 --> 02:18:03.760 that the Western power elite and power structure for many 2498 02:18:03.840 --> 02:18:09.040 years met under semi secrecy at the Bilderberg meetings, which 2499 02:18:09.079 --> 02:18:13.840 is happening right now in DC. And this is just media, right, 2500 02:18:14.760 --> 02:18:18.680 So the same image could be made of corporate heads 2501 02:18:18.719 --> 02:18:22.680 of other industries tech and Builderberg has taken on a 2502 02:18:22.760 --> 02:18:27.360 much more tech centered focus in the last say ten years. 2503 02:18:27.440 --> 02:18:30.040 Because I was writing articles about Builderberg ten years ago. 2504 02:18:31.120 --> 02:18:39.959 I reshared that as well right here, So, oh crap, 2505 02:18:40.120 --> 02:18:46.799 the links are dead. Dang it, Well, my mistake, but 2506 02:18:46.920 --> 02:18:48.559 I did write articles. They're in my red book. You 2507 02:18:48.639 --> 02:18:54.079 want to get the red book. So, and then let's 2508 02:18:54.120 --> 02:19:01.399 go back to let's go back to the rest of 2509 02:19:01.479 --> 02:19:05.399 that clip here, we'll be done with us very. 2510 02:19:05.360 --> 02:19:10.319 Soon, identical to the recent COVID playbook Lock it Down, 2511 02:19:11.239 --> 02:19:15.079 ration it, control it, and call it saving the planet. 2512 02:19:16.120 --> 02:19:16.799 Sound familiar. 2513 02:19:17.040 --> 02:19:22.079 Next, we've got Kristalina Georgieva, Managing Director of the IMF, 2514 02:19:22.719 --> 02:19:25.319 the queen of debt traps, is here to make sure 2515 02:19:25.360 --> 02:19:28.280 that every country on Earth gets properly chained to the 2516 02:19:28.360 --> 02:19:31.600 same digital slavery system that they're rolling out. She spent 2517 02:19:31.799 --> 02:19:36.280 years trapping developing nations in debt slavery, and now she 2518 02:19:36.399 --> 02:19:40.200 wants the same model for the West through climate finance 2519 02:19:40.559 --> 02:19:44.280 and digital currencies. And then comes the tech overlords who 2520 02:19:44.319 --> 02:19:46.520 are actually building the digital prison. 2521 02:19:46.760 --> 02:19:49.920 Alex Karp, CEO of Palanteer. 2522 02:19:49.520 --> 02:19:54.799 Technologies, the company whose AI is already helping governments spy on, predict, 2523 02:19:54.920 --> 02:19:57.040 and punish their own citizens. 2524 02:19:56.559 --> 02:19:58.959 In real time. Nothing creepy about that at all. 2525 02:19:59.239 --> 02:20:03.000 His company Valeer knows more about you than you do, 2526 02:20:03.319 --> 02:20:07.319 and we can't speak about Palenteer without mentioning his co founder, 2527 02:20:07.719 --> 02:20:10.680 Peter teel I confronted him at last year's meeting not 2528 02:20:10.840 --> 02:20:13.559 only about the big brother surveillance system that he's helping 2529 02:20:13.639 --> 02:20:17.000 us set up, but also about his ties to Jeffrey Epstein. 2530 02:20:17.360 --> 02:20:18.959 If you haven't seen that, I'll put a link to 2531 02:20:19.040 --> 02:20:21.559 that clip in the description below. And rounding this out, 2532 02:20:21.680 --> 02:20:24.760 we have the media mouthpieces, the ones who will make 2533 02:20:24.840 --> 02:20:28.319 sure you never hear the wrong version of events and 2534 02:20:28.600 --> 02:20:30.200 Apple Bomb of the Atlantic. 2535 02:20:30.760 --> 02:20:33.760 John Mickelthwaite, editor in chief of Bloom. 2536 02:20:38.360 --> 02:20:39.200 The Atlantic is. 2537 02:20:40.760 --> 02:20:43.040 Rick was very close to and defending Epstein as well. 2538 02:20:43.159 --> 02:20:46.799 So this is another big establishment outlet, just of CIA mouthpiece. 2539 02:20:46.440 --> 02:20:51.120 Lumberg and Zanny Minton Bedos, editor in chief of the Economists, 2540 02:20:51.200 --> 02:20:51.840 to name a few. 2541 02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:56.040 These are The Economist is a Rothschild publication on record. 2542 02:20:56.159 --> 02:20:59.520 Are the gatekeepers who will spin whatever comes out of 2543 02:20:59.559 --> 02:21:03.440 this meeting into the official narrative that you're supposed to 2544 02:21:03.479 --> 02:21:04.680 swallow without question. 2545 02:21:05.000 --> 02:21:05.920 Oh yeah, and for. 2546 02:21:06.000 --> 02:21:08.879 Good measure, the King and Queen of the Netherlands are 2547 02:21:08.920 --> 02:21:12.239 apparently making an appearance as well, because nothing says we're 2548 02:21:12.280 --> 02:21:16.399 all in this together, like actual royalty rubbing shoulders with 2549 02:21:16.520 --> 02:21:19.479 the people who run the central banks, the armies, the 2550 02:21:19.719 --> 02:21:24.120 energy cartels, and the spying software when you're deciding the future. 2551 02:21:24.639 --> 02:21:28.319 So again, like as that he pointed out when he 2552 02:21:28.399 --> 02:21:32.559 was on with Lord Voldemort yesterday, how many people are 2553 02:21:32.639 --> 02:21:38.360 there covering this three people, three people covering Bilderberg. Now 2554 02:21:38.920 --> 02:21:41.959 the most powerful people and corporate heads and banking heads, 2555 02:21:42.040 --> 02:21:46.559 IMF heads, elites in the West are meeting in DC 2556 02:21:46.799 --> 02:21:52.440 right now, and everyone is arguing about Trump memes on 2557 02:21:54.760 --> 02:22:00.280 X and no one is figuring out that the Trump 2558 02:22:00.399 --> 02:22:03.920 memes don't matter. Builderberg is what matters. So we still 2559 02:22:04.040 --> 02:22:09.040 not made progress, right, We've still not made We've met 2560 02:22:09.079 --> 02:22:13.440 a little progress perhaps in like people mildly waking up 2561 02:22:13.440 --> 02:22:16.200 a little bit, but they always get shuffled into stupid, 2562 02:22:16.600 --> 02:22:22.280 you know, political football crap. Meanwhile, the real power brokers 2563 02:22:22.319 --> 02:22:24.559 are at Builderberg and there's only three people there, with 2564 02:22:24.760 --> 02:22:27.319 Dan Dix covering this humanity. 2565 02:22:27.520 --> 02:22:30.719 It's apparently important to have actual monarchs in the room. 2566 02:22:30.920 --> 02:22:35.040 That way you can keep things classy while you dismantle sovereignty. Now, 2567 02:22:35.120 --> 02:22:38.399 let's look at this year's official agenda. First up, we've 2568 02:22:38.440 --> 02:22:42.280 got AI, which I would suggest is not separate from 2569 02:22:42.559 --> 02:22:48.440 the future of warfare, autonomous drones AI targeting predictive battles 2570 02:22:48.559 --> 02:22:52.159 and kill machines at lightning speed. The Pallanteer types are 2571 02:22:52.319 --> 02:22:55.600 already bragging about running most of the operations in Ukraine. 2572 02:22:55.799 --> 02:23:00.559 Buildeberg is where they align the Western Defense Industrial on 2573 02:23:00.719 --> 02:23:03.520 how to deploy this stuff without losing control. 2574 02:23:04.120 --> 02:23:06.000 See do you see how big that is? 2575 02:23:06.120 --> 02:23:10.399 How important this is, This is crucial, and no one 2576 02:23:10.520 --> 02:23:14.479 is talking about this except for Dan Dix, Jason Burmas, Lord, 2577 02:23:14.559 --> 02:23:16.559 Voldemort myself. 2578 02:23:16.479 --> 02:23:19.920 Or letting it spiral. Next we have Arctic security. 2579 02:23:20.239 --> 02:23:22.760 It seems they might be eyeing the melting ice like 2580 02:23:22.920 --> 02:23:24.840 vultures new shipping routes. 2581 02:23:25.239 --> 02:23:30.000 I've covered Bilderberg every year for the last ten years. 2582 02:23:30.280 --> 02:23:32.239 I mean covered in the sense of touching on it 2583 02:23:32.319 --> 02:23:35.760 in videos, podcast every time it happens, and every time 2584 02:23:35.840 --> 02:23:39.360 we go through the same reminders, we go through Estalin's book, 2585 02:23:39.399 --> 02:23:43.079 We go through all this stuff, and tomorrow everybody will 2586 02:23:43.159 --> 02:23:46.600 just be back to arguing about Trump, stupid Trump memes, 2587 02:23:46.760 --> 02:23:49.399 and forgetting what really matter. This is why things don't change. 2588 02:23:50.440 --> 02:23:53.639 This is why things don't change because we don't continue. 2589 02:23:53.319 --> 02:23:54.040 To look at this. 2590 02:23:55.120 --> 02:23:58.760 The real movers and shakers and everybody wants to do 2591 02:23:58.799 --> 02:23:59.440 the stupid shit. 2592 02:24:00.079 --> 02:24:02.399 Resources and military posturing up. 2593 02:24:02.479 --> 02:24:06.520 North Russia and China are already making moves, but Builderberg 2594 02:24:06.600 --> 02:24:07.479 wants to make sure. 2595 02:24:07.399 --> 02:24:11.000 The West secures it first. Next up we have China. 2596 02:24:11.239 --> 02:24:16.280 The usual obsession containment and tech decoupling Taiwan tensions and 2597 02:24:16.399 --> 02:24:22.920 supply chains. Next, we've got digital finance cbdc's digital IDs 2598 02:24:23.079 --> 02:24:27.120 and programmable money. This is the quiet shift from cash 2599 02:24:27.840 --> 02:24:34.680 to total financial surveillance, track every transaction and freeze dissidence overnight. 2600 02:24:35.000 --> 02:24:38.840 They love this stuff. Next we have energy diversification. 2601 02:24:39.879 --> 02:24:44.159 So you noticed that Builderberg is still interested in the 2602 02:24:44.239 --> 02:24:49.879 CBDC and programmable shut up, shut off able money. And 2603 02:24:50.000 --> 02:24:53.639 this is another great point to introdect and talk about bitcoin. 2604 02:24:54.200 --> 02:24:55.639 This is what bitcoin. 2605 02:24:55.360 --> 02:25:01.360 Exists to oppose, right It opposes the Federal reserve nonsense system. 2606 02:25:01.440 --> 02:25:02.440 It's the only. 2607 02:25:03.200 --> 02:25:07.440 Logical, real world solution that exists right now to the 2608 02:25:07.639 --> 02:25:10.079 existing monetary problems. 2609 02:25:11.159 --> 02:25:12.639 The dollar will not be fixed. 2610 02:25:13.559 --> 02:25:16.399 It's not going to have a thousand year millennial rain, 2611 02:25:16.680 --> 02:25:21.319 like Andrew Meyer says because of the war in Iran. 2612 02:25:21.760 --> 02:25:24.399 I don't know where he got that kind of crazy theory. 2613 02:25:24.520 --> 02:25:29.360 But the dollar will die. 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Use the promo 2631 02:26:27.239 --> 02:26:30.079 code J sixty life that's Jay six zero life to 2632 02:26:30.079 --> 02:26:33.239 get sixty percent off all those great Chalk products. Let's 2633 02:26:33.239 --> 02:26:34.719 listen to the rest of Dan's report. 2634 02:26:34.719 --> 02:26:38.079 In other words, ditch Russian oil and gas and push 2635 02:26:38.239 --> 02:26:43.719 the green transition harder, keep energy expensive and controlled, and get. 2636 02:26:43.639 --> 02:26:47.520 Ready for energy lockdowns. Next we have Europe. 2637 02:26:47.840 --> 02:26:52.159 Europe is a mess with energy crisises, migration, blowback and 2638 02:26:52.319 --> 02:26:56.159 political fragmentation. Buildeberg chats about how to glue it all 2639 02:26:56.239 --> 02:26:59.840 back together, how to boost defense spending, and to stop it. 2640 02:27:00.040 --> 02:27:03.559 I'm drifting too far from right where I am right now. 2641 02:27:05.040 --> 02:27:08.159 All right, we'll go to a couple of calls America. First, Tampa, 2642 02:27:08.239 --> 02:27:11.479 what's up? You want to armute? 2643 02:27:13.920 --> 02:27:16.559 Yeah, just you know, I can't. 2644 02:27:17.000 --> 02:27:19.719 Before the space, I was on a different space, and like, 2645 02:27:20.280 --> 02:27:22.079 you know, I simply just brought up the fact that 2646 02:27:22.200 --> 02:27:23.440 you know, I'm twenty four years old. 2647 02:27:24.079 --> 02:27:26.399 You know, I'm barely making it by, you know, rents 2648 02:27:26.600 --> 02:27:27.959 up my ass every month, Like. 2649 02:27:27.959 --> 02:27:30.120 I barely may make a script straight by. 2650 02:27:30.120 --> 02:27:31.959 And like they're like, oh, the only thing in this 2651 02:27:32.200 --> 02:27:34.079 run war that changed is like, you know, we just 2652 02:27:34.159 --> 02:27:35.559 had to pay a little bit more in gas. 2653 02:27:36.399 --> 02:27:39.200 And I'm sitting here like I can't pay a little 2654 02:27:39.239 --> 02:27:41.600 bit more in gas? Why the fuck do I have 2655 02:27:41.680 --> 02:27:42.479 to pay a little. 2656 02:27:42.239 --> 02:27:44.040 Bit more in gas so we can con bomb some 2657 02:27:44.159 --> 02:27:47.600 other countries on the other side of the world, you know, Like, 2658 02:27:48.040 --> 02:27:50.520 and I don't know if that maybe I'm the only 2659 02:27:50.639 --> 02:27:53.040 one that's struggling to pay and make my ends meet 2660 02:27:53.360 --> 02:27:54.440 while my country. 2661 02:27:54.280 --> 02:27:56.520 Just blows away billions and billions of dollars. 2662 02:27:56.920 --> 02:27:58.680 I'm blowing people up on the other side of the 2663 02:27:58.680 --> 02:28:01.399 world that I've never met or you know, had any 2664 02:28:01.479 --> 02:28:02.280 kind of connection with. 2665 02:28:03.159 --> 02:28:06.159 And it's just like I feel like you know it 2666 02:28:06.399 --> 02:28:08.079 and then I brought it up and I feel like 2667 02:28:08.120 --> 02:28:09.959 it has nothing to do with me, and like my 2668 02:28:10.600 --> 02:28:13.399 you know, issues issues that I have in my country today. 2669 02:28:13.200 --> 02:28:14.920 They like they all gang up on me and like 2670 02:28:15.000 --> 02:28:16.760 kick me out of their groove, like kick me out 2671 02:28:16.760 --> 02:28:20.000 of the the panel. Like as I's like, I'm in 2672 02:28:20.159 --> 02:28:21.559 the wrong for saying that. 2673 02:28:22.600 --> 02:28:23.760 Yeah, but no, you understand. 2674 02:28:23.879 --> 02:28:25.799 Don't you understand that the dollar is going to last 2675 02:28:25.879 --> 02:28:28.319 one thousand years because of the war with Iran? 2676 02:28:30.360 --> 02:28:33.280 I guess, but no, I'm joking. I'm joking, but I'm joking. 2677 02:28:33.479 --> 02:28:36.360 The war doesn't help me in any way. I'm joking 2678 02:28:36.879 --> 02:28:38.479 you know other people maybe. 2679 02:28:38.200 --> 02:28:40.120 I know it doesn't. It doesn't. 2680 02:28:40.799 --> 02:28:42.200 I don't benefit from it at all. 2681 02:28:42.399 --> 02:28:44.440 No, of course not. And in fact, war is the 2682 02:28:44.559 --> 02:28:46.159 health of the state. War is a racket. 2683 02:28:47.239 --> 02:28:49.680 I was making a joke because that's what Andrew Meyer 2684 02:28:49.799 --> 02:28:52.879 was arguing. Appreciate your call America first, Yeah, I totally 2685 02:28:53.040 --> 02:28:57.719 a feel you on that space is lit. What's up, dude, 2686 02:29:00.760 --> 02:29:02.719 Terry says for ten dollars. A few years ago, I 2687 02:29:02.760 --> 02:29:05.159 went to a Southern Baptist bookstore. They had Christian fiction. 2688 02:29:05.440 --> 02:29:10.680 Guess what, every book was about Amish ladies getting laid. 2689 02:29:10.719 --> 02:29:14.479 I don't know what. Now almost every book is about 2690 02:29:14.559 --> 02:29:16.440 the current conflict that was twenty sixteen. 2691 02:29:16.479 --> 02:29:17.319 It's all propaganda. 2692 02:29:17.399 --> 02:29:20.760 Yeah, Baptist bookstores and Baptist evangelical stuff is literally just 2693 02:29:20.959 --> 02:29:21.920 Israeli propaganda. 2694 02:29:21.959 --> 02:29:22.479 That's all it is. 2695 02:29:22.879 --> 02:29:27.159 What's up? Space is lit? I'm you? 2696 02:29:29.319 --> 02:29:33.239 Oh hey, hello, wow. 2697 02:29:35.280 --> 02:29:37.440 So I just want to preface the thing. 2698 02:29:37.600 --> 02:29:41.600 I have like an infantile level of knowledge compared to you, 2699 02:29:41.799 --> 02:29:47.120 but as a prodestan, I just have some questions about orthodoxy. 2700 02:29:47.639 --> 02:29:54.719 Okay, I guess that My first one would be do 2701 02:29:54.879 --> 02:29:58.479 we both agree that the Bible is the inspired word 2702 02:29:58.520 --> 02:29:58.879 of God? 2703 02:29:59.440 --> 02:29:59.680 Sure? 2704 02:30:01.920 --> 02:30:06.399 So, I guess my question after that is like, why 2705 02:30:06.559 --> 02:30:07.399 isn't that enough? 2706 02:30:08.360 --> 02:30:09.799 Well, the Bible requires an. 2707 02:30:09.760 --> 02:30:13.360 Interpreter, but. 2708 02:30:15.399 --> 02:30:16.879 How can we trust. 2709 02:30:18.159 --> 02:30:20.520 Men to interpret it? Well? 2710 02:30:20.559 --> 02:30:22.280 Do you trust men to write the Bible? 2711 02:30:24.440 --> 02:30:29.120 I trusted, I trust that it was divinely inspired? 2712 02:30:29.280 --> 02:30:30.360 Yeah, but didn't men write it? 2713 02:30:31.760 --> 02:30:32.000 Yes? 2714 02:30:32.479 --> 02:30:36.920 Okay, so you're trusting that men preserve the text and 2715 02:30:37.040 --> 02:30:38.239 who preserve those texts? 2716 02:30:41.760 --> 02:30:43.520 This is where my lack of knowledge comes in. 2717 02:30:43.680 --> 02:30:45.239 But like the. 2718 02:30:45.360 --> 02:30:50.840 Forefathers, Abraham Lincoln, George Washington, who are you talking about 2719 02:30:51.360 --> 02:30:52.520 the church? 2720 02:30:52.600 --> 02:30:52.959 Fathers. 2721 02:30:52.959 --> 02:30:55.319 I don't know their name, but okay, well, look, I 2722 02:30:55.360 --> 02:30:58.120 appreciate your call, but just take a look at the 2723 02:30:58.280 --> 02:31:01.079 history of the canon redef f Versus book, leave McDonald's 2724 02:31:01.079 --> 02:31:03.719 book on the Formation of the Biblical cannon, and you'll 2725 02:31:03.760 --> 02:31:06.120 realize that it didn't drop out of heaven. There was 2726 02:31:06.200 --> 02:31:08.799 a human beings had to preserve it, and those human 2727 02:31:08.840 --> 02:31:12.079 beings existed after the Apostles. We don't have the Apostles writings, 2728 02:31:12.159 --> 02:31:15.920 so you're already trusting that the first second third century 2729 02:31:15.959 --> 02:31:19.360 church fathers preserve those texts that none of us have 2730 02:31:19.479 --> 02:31:23.520 actual autographa of Have you looked at Palm Beach Pete yet? 2731 02:31:23.520 --> 02:31:26.600 Two dollars yes, retarded wraps your west five dollars one 2732 02:31:26.680 --> 02:31:27.159 for the road. 2733 02:31:27.319 --> 02:31:28.479 Hit the damn goal people. 2734 02:31:28.559 --> 02:31:31.000 Thank you guys. We're getting close to the goal. If 2735 02:31:31.000 --> 02:31:32.239 you guys want to support the reamay ge do so 2736 02:31:32.319 --> 02:31:35.079 through super chats. And we are getting close to the goal. 2737 02:31:36.319 --> 02:31:41.200 Let's see Martin, what's up? You were thumbing down my comments? Yep, 2738 02:31:41.319 --> 02:31:41.680 what's up? 2739 02:31:42.959 --> 02:31:43.200 Hi? 2740 02:31:43.600 --> 02:31:45.639 Can we talk about conspiracy theories? 2741 02:31:45.879 --> 02:31:46.079 Sure? 2742 02:31:47.559 --> 02:31:51.879 Yeah, so I remember when the files first came out. 2743 02:31:54.040 --> 02:31:59.239 Caller wanted to talk about hit then and how some 2744 02:31:59.479 --> 02:32:08.000 of the like CIA related stuff gets portrayed in video games. 2745 02:32:08.719 --> 02:32:11.959 Oh yeah, it got me thinking about how some of 2746 02:32:12.040 --> 02:32:16.639 the stuff relating to alchemy and Cabbalism that are sort 2747 02:32:16.639 --> 02:32:19.360 of seen in the files is portrayed in a game. 2748 02:32:19.239 --> 02:32:20.040 Called Blood Born. 2749 02:32:21.440 --> 02:32:21.559 Uh. 2750 02:32:21.959 --> 02:32:23.479 Yeah, I played a little bit of Blood Born. 2751 02:32:23.520 --> 02:32:25.200 I didn't get very far in it though, But what. 2752 02:32:26.760 --> 02:32:28.120 Do you want to expand on that? 2753 02:32:29.360 --> 02:32:30.959 Yeah, So the. 2754 02:32:31.040 --> 02:32:36.040 Premise of the game is that some like university students 2755 02:32:37.040 --> 02:32:42.200 go into this like ancient catacomb of this like old 2756 02:32:42.319 --> 02:32:46.719 ancient civilization, and they find like a queen that was 2757 02:32:46.760 --> 02:32:50.600 impregnated by like a demi urge, and they like abort 2758 02:32:51.319 --> 02:32:54.760 the baby, and they use the baby's blood in order 2759 02:32:54.840 --> 02:32:57.040 to conduct rituals to do. 2760 02:32:59.200 --> 02:33:03.159 To like and turned to contact with the demire just. 2761 02:33:03.239 --> 02:33:04.399 That rule over the world. 2762 02:33:05.440 --> 02:33:09.239 Interesting, And that's blood How many are bloodburns? 2763 02:33:09.280 --> 02:33:09.879 Are there? One? Two? 2764 02:33:10.000 --> 02:33:10.159 Three? 2765 02:33:10.280 --> 02:33:13.680 Is there more than one? Okay, appreciate that. 2766 02:33:13.799 --> 02:33:15.799 Yeah, we'll have to check into that. A lot of 2767 02:33:15.879 --> 02:33:17.920 video games, by the way, are full of the you know, 2768 02:33:18.079 --> 02:33:21.559 esoteric cult subjects as an evil for you're fighting the 2769 02:33:21.559 --> 02:33:26.319 Illuminati explicitly, they're doing a genetic experimentation. My channel or 2770 02:33:26.360 --> 02:33:28.799 my clip channel over here Ester Hollywood Archive, shout out 2771 02:33:28.840 --> 02:33:31.600 to that guy over there, because this has already had 2772 02:33:31.600 --> 02:33:34.600 almost two hundred thousand views. This video that he made 2773 02:33:34.639 --> 02:33:38.600 on Hitman showing kind of the connections to Epstein and 2774 02:33:39.280 --> 02:33:44.280 just Laine in the twenty sixteen hit Man a very 2775 02:33:44.319 --> 02:33:47.799 popular clip. This got a couple hundred thousand on x 2776 02:33:47.879 --> 02:33:52.040 as well. And I think he just made another clip 2777 02:33:53.600 --> 02:33:58.719 here about satanic elites in another game. 2778 02:33:59.440 --> 02:34:03.840 Let's see what's on this one is ready or not yet? 2779 02:34:05.520 --> 02:34:06.600 Before the movie rather or not? 2780 02:34:06.760 --> 02:34:10.159 Agent forty seven faced an elite hunting party in Epstein 2781 02:34:10.200 --> 02:34:14.879 connections in hit Man Contracts from two thousand and four. 2782 02:34:15.159 --> 02:34:18.159 So this dude is a master of all things hit 2783 02:34:18.280 --> 02:34:22.639 Man and he maybe somebody can look into Bloodborn. As 2784 02:34:22.680 --> 02:34:27.120 our friend pointed out, right there, Cia sympathizer, what's up, dude? 2785 02:34:34.840 --> 02:34:48.879 You want to umute? Are you there? You want to? 2786 02:34:48.920 --> 02:34:49.479 I'm you dude? 2787 02:34:50.239 --> 02:34:50.559 All right? 2788 02:34:50.600 --> 02:34:53.440 He's having a hard time connecting. Langley won't let him connect, 2789 02:34:55.200 --> 02:34:55.920 will what's up? 2790 02:34:56.000 --> 02:34:56.120 Man,