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True Murder with your host, 60 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:54.159 journalist and author Dan Zupanski, Good Eating. Three young women 61 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:58.560 abducted and brutally murdered. For years, their killer remained a 62 00:02:58.560 --> 00:03:03.080 mystery as the cases turned. Then a crime Stoppers call 63 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:07.680 led to his arrest. Charming and handsome serial killer Oscar 64 00:03:07.759 --> 00:03:10.520 Ray Bolan married a member of his legal defense team, 65 00:03:10.759 --> 00:03:13.520 and he toyed with the criminal courts for decades while 66 00:03:13.520 --> 00:03:17.039 on death row. This is the first book about Bolan 67 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:21.879 and his victims. Book they were featuring this evening is 68 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:25.520 Death Row Romeo, The True Story of Oscar Ray Bolan, 69 00:03:26.039 --> 00:03:28.759 with my special guest, journalist and author JT. 70 00:03:28.960 --> 00:03:31.759 Hunter. Welcome back to the program, and thank you very 71 00:03:31.800 --> 00:03:34.039 much for geting this interview. JT. Hunter. 72 00:03:35.879 --> 00:03:37.680 Hey, Dan, glad to be here, Thanks for having me back. 73 00:03:38.719 --> 00:03:43.479 Thank you very much. Another wild tale that I had 74 00:03:43.520 --> 00:03:45.319 not heard of, and I'm sure the audience is not 75 00:03:45.439 --> 00:03:49.000 so familiar with. So here we go with death Row Romeo. 76 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:54.120 Let's get right into this. I want to ask you 77 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:56.479 the typical question why you got involved with this? This 78 00:03:56.520 --> 00:03:59.800 is an incredible story, and I think that's enough I 79 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:05.159 think to know. Let's start with as you do. You 80 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:08.560 set the scene in January twenty fifth, nineteen eighty six, 81 00:04:09.560 --> 00:04:14.719 Churches Fried Chicken and Tampa area, and Natalie Blanche Hally, 82 00:04:14.960 --> 00:04:19.519 twenty six years old, and you say she's a daughter 83 00:04:19.600 --> 00:04:23.079 of Charles Holly, a lawyer, judge and state legislator from 84 00:04:23.160 --> 00:04:27.839 Penelas County. Tell us a little bit about Natalie Blanche 85 00:04:27.839 --> 00:04:33.839 Holly and where she's working and what she's doing, and 86 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:38.399 tell us the encounter then about with officer or Deputy 87 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:40.920 Sheriff Ron Valente that same evening. 88 00:04:43.399 --> 00:04:47.199 Okay, well, well, Natalie Holly is a young young lady 89 00:04:48.120 --> 00:04:52.040 twenty six years old at the time, and as you said, 90 00:04:52.120 --> 00:04:56.240 she was working at Church's Fried Chicken restaurant. She was 91 00:04:56.240 --> 00:04:59.959 a knight manager there on the evening of January twenty six, 92 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:04.360 nineteen eighty six, and shorked pretty late. She worked into 93 00:05:04.399 --> 00:05:07.160 the wee hours of the morning working that late shift. 94 00:05:07.160 --> 00:05:12.399 Particular night, she worked a shift as normal, cleaned the 95 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:14.800 place up, locked it up, secured it and everything, and 96 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.079 left sometime early in the morning, around one thirty or so, 97 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.920 and she walked out in the parking lot, got in 98 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:29.120 her car along with the co employee, helped her close 99 00:05:29.199 --> 00:05:33.720 the restaurant down and lock it up, and you know, 100 00:05:33.759 --> 00:05:38.040 they went there their separate ways, and the co employee watched, 101 00:05:38.439 --> 00:05:41.839 you know, as Natalie drove out of the parking lot 102 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:46.680 and drove down the street. And later on that evening, 103 00:05:48.120 --> 00:05:53.639 the deputy that you mentioned with the Hillsborough County Sheriff's office, 104 00:05:53.920 --> 00:05:57.360 his name was Ron Valenti was he was a pretty 105 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:00.399 pretty young deputy sheriff, hadn't been on the force for 106 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.480 too long, just a couple of years. 107 00:06:03.160 --> 00:06:04.000 He was also working in. 108 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.160 The league shift. And around around two o'clock that morning, 109 00:06:08.720 --> 00:06:12.319 so roughly about a half an hour after Natalie had 110 00:06:12.319 --> 00:06:17.800 closed up and left the restaurant, Valente Officer Valente was 111 00:06:18.839 --> 00:06:23.240 on his way to a service call in Tampa there 112 00:06:24.040 --> 00:06:29.519 and he came to an intersection at Lake Magdalen Road 113 00:06:29.560 --> 00:06:33.160 and Smitr Road, which was the intersection there turned right 114 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:35.279 at a stop sign and saw two cars parked over 115 00:06:35.399 --> 00:06:38.000 on the side of the road. One of the cars 116 00:06:38.040 --> 00:06:41.279 had its urgency hazard lights blinking, the one the one 117 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:44.240 in front, and then the other car was parked ray 118 00:06:44.319 --> 00:06:48.199 behind it. So, you know, obviously this being a little 119 00:06:48.279 --> 00:06:50.000 unusual to have two cars sitting there with one of 120 00:06:50.000 --> 00:06:54.160 them with its emergency lights blinking. The deputy pulled up there. 121 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:55.759 To check it out and see what was going on. 122 00:06:56.680 --> 00:06:58.279 And he pulled up to the first car there, the 123 00:06:58.279 --> 00:07:02.639 one with the ergency lights, looked inside, you know, put 124 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:06.279 his spotlight in there inside, and nobody was in there. 125 00:07:07.079 --> 00:07:10.120 So he car forward a little bit more to the 126 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.480 to the second one that was behind it there, and 127 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:16.839 found a man and a young man and a young 128 00:07:16.879 --> 00:07:21.439 woman inside that one in the front seats. The man 129 00:07:21.639 --> 00:07:25.959 was sitting in the driver's seats and the young woman 130 00:07:26.040 --> 00:07:28.040 was sitting right next to him in the passenger seat. 131 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:34.160 And Pty Flint, you know, came up there, and you know, 132 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:37.079 as you might imagine, he kind of went up and said, 133 00:07:37.079 --> 00:07:38.560 you know, hey, what's going on you guys? 134 00:07:38.600 --> 00:07:42.920 Okay? Everything all right? Do you have an accident? You 135 00:07:42.959 --> 00:07:43.680 need help. 136 00:07:43.720 --> 00:07:47.600 Sort of thing, And you know, the man behind the 137 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:51.240 wheel said, you know, we're fine. I just I just 138 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.079 ran out of gas and she was helping. 139 00:07:53.720 --> 00:07:54.759 She was going to take me to. 140 00:07:54.639 --> 00:07:57.319 The to the station to get some more gas, basically 141 00:07:57.360 --> 00:08:02.920 what he told the deputy. And you know, at the time, 142 00:08:03.399 --> 00:08:06.240 the deputy thought it was a little strange the response 143 00:08:06.279 --> 00:08:09.600 that he was given, because if the if the man 144 00:08:09.639 --> 00:08:11.279 had ran out of gas, it was kind of weird, 145 00:08:11.639 --> 00:08:14.399 kind of weird that he was in the driver's seat, 146 00:08:14.399 --> 00:08:17.319 they're going to drive her car to get gas instead 147 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.120 of her driving him to get gas. So it just 148 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:23.160 didn't quite mesh with what he said. But so the 149 00:08:23.199 --> 00:08:26.439 deputy asked to asked the woman directly, you know, is 150 00:08:26.439 --> 00:08:27.120 everything okay? 151 00:08:28.199 --> 00:08:31.240 You know, and and she she looked. 152 00:08:31.000 --> 00:08:34.519 Over at him, and that the band next to her 153 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:36.080 kind of looked at her for a second. Then she 154 00:08:36.120 --> 00:08:38.120 looked over at the deputy and said, yeah, you know, 155 00:08:38.200 --> 00:08:44.960 everything's okay, officer. And so, you know, Valente was satisfied 156 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.840 everything seemed to be what it was supposed to because 157 00:08:47.879 --> 00:08:51.440 the woman didn't indicate any sort of distress or didn't 158 00:08:51.480 --> 00:08:56.960 seem nervous or anything like that. So he was her 159 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.639 answer basically satisfied him, and so he said, okay, you know, 160 00:09:01.279 --> 00:09:03.360 he says, have a good night and all that sort 161 00:09:03.360 --> 00:09:06.960 of thing, and drove on to on his way to 162 00:09:07.440 --> 00:09:10.879 respond to the original call he had gotten, leaving both of. 163 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:11.840 Them sitting there in the dark. 164 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:16.039 And it turns out, you know, later that the woman 165 00:09:16.240 --> 00:09:19.720 was Natalie Holly in the car there. 166 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:26.000 You also talked that the officer was suspicious enough or 167 00:09:26.039 --> 00:09:29.240 did his job enough, that he ran the two vehicle 168 00:09:29.320 --> 00:09:32.720 tags in the first car on Black nineteen eighty four, 169 00:09:32.720 --> 00:09:35.639 as you ride, a Grand Prix was registered to Oscar 170 00:09:35.840 --> 00:09:40.200 Ray and Cheryl Boling, and neither vehicle was stole and sold. 171 00:09:40.200 --> 00:09:42.200 There was no red flags, and as you say, he 172 00:09:42.559 --> 00:09:51.200 resumed his patrol. Right now, you talk about an attorney 173 00:09:51.240 --> 00:09:55.080 named Gerald Sage. He's out on his usual Saturday morning 174 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:59.080 jog and he found a woman. Tell us what he finds, 175 00:10:00.039 --> 00:10:03.159 and tell her what he what he finds, and then 176 00:10:03.279 --> 00:10:07.080 later what the crime scene texts find. 177 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:11.919 Okay, so yeah, it's Gerald Stage. You know. Later that 178 00:10:12.039 --> 00:10:15.679 morning it was about two am when when the deputy 179 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:21.559 came on Natalie Holly and the car belonging to the 180 00:10:21.559 --> 00:10:25.799 Bowlin's Oscary and Cheryl Bowlin. So seven thirty five and 181 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.799 a half hours later, this Cheryl Sage is out going 182 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:32.679 for a jog and comes across, as you said, this, 183 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:35.279 this this body lying in the wheat there, just a 184 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:38.159 little bit off the road and an overgrown orange groove, 185 00:10:39.919 --> 00:10:42.240 and you know, he obviously graces back and calls the 186 00:10:42.440 --> 00:10:46.360 calls the sheriff's office, and you know, they come out 187 00:10:46.399 --> 00:10:50.519 and respond to the scene there and they find this 188 00:10:50.519 --> 00:10:57.080 this woman, this woman's body there. She had been she 189 00:10:57.120 --> 00:10:59.759 had she had met a brutal end. It was pretty 190 00:10:59.840 --> 00:11:05.240 pair right. She had been stabbed numerous times. You know, 191 00:11:05.320 --> 00:11:09.080 they later came to determine she was stabbed about ten times. 192 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:15.399 And her eyes are still open in death, so you know, 193 00:11:15.480 --> 00:11:20.360 as if as if, you know, still experiencing the violence 194 00:11:20.399 --> 00:11:24.080 of it, the shock of it. And there was an 195 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:30.720 apron wrapped around her with Church's chicken written on it, 196 00:11:32.240 --> 00:11:35.919 and you know, they were able to determine that the 197 00:11:35.919 --> 00:11:38.519 body was Natalie Holly, and they ended up finding her 198 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:40.679 car about four miles away from where the body was, 199 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.960 which wasn't very far away from the church's restaurant where 200 00:11:45.000 --> 00:11:49.320 she worked either. And uh, you know, you know kind 201 00:11:49.320 --> 00:11:53.320 of calculating, well, you know, if she was going straight 202 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:56.639 home after leaving work, which way she would she had gone. 203 00:11:57.600 --> 00:12:00.720 They determined that where the where the car was located 204 00:12:00.840 --> 00:12:03.720 was consistent with the direct pride back to her house. 205 00:12:03.759 --> 00:12:05.480 And you know, later on they. 206 00:12:07.639 --> 00:12:08.399 Came to some. 207 00:12:08.559 --> 00:12:14.840 Uh you know, the theory as to how what had happened, 208 00:12:14.840 --> 00:12:17.799 how she had been stopped, and they figured that, uh 209 00:12:18.240 --> 00:12:21.440 that Bolan may have bumped her get her to pull 210 00:12:21.480 --> 00:12:26.600 over on the road there and then you know, obviously 211 00:12:26.799 --> 00:12:33.120 uh put her under his control. You know, he had 212 00:12:33.120 --> 00:12:34.600 a he had a gun with him at the time 213 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:36.559 he pulled her over. And even at the time that 214 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:41.399 officer of Valente, Deputy Valente came by there and spoke 215 00:12:41.440 --> 00:12:44.840 to them that he was Bulan was pressing a gun 216 00:12:44.879 --> 00:12:47.799 to Natalie's waste the whole time. 217 00:12:49.960 --> 00:12:53.120 So that's that's how Natalie ended up. 218 00:12:54.519 --> 00:12:56.279 Becoming a victim of Bolan. 219 00:12:58.840 --> 00:13:00.960 You talk about there was some evidence. There was an 220 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:06.720 athletic shoeprint identified as men's track brand tennis shoes. There 221 00:13:06.799 --> 00:13:11.840 was some fiber carpet fiber, and so there was impressions 222 00:13:11.919 --> 00:13:15.720 and there was some forensic evidence at that time. But 223 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.639 you say, as well, despite the barbarity of the barbarity 224 00:13:19.639 --> 00:13:24.519 of the crime, Tampa Bay Residents' attention was for another 225 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:27.799 horrific event. Tell us a little bit about that before 226 00:13:27.799 --> 00:13:30.679 we talk about November fifth, nineteen eighty six. 227 00:13:32.600 --> 00:13:36.399 Well, in the day that they found Natalie's body, it 228 00:13:36.440 --> 00:13:40.919 was the same day that the Space shuttle, the Challenger 229 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:47.960 Space Shuttle exploded. As you know, most people that heard 230 00:13:48.039 --> 00:13:54.840 that where they were viewing at the time, they heard 231 00:13:58.039 --> 00:14:05.480 huge news event. So you know, perhaps not surprisingly that 232 00:14:06.279 --> 00:14:07.240 kind of took center. 233 00:14:07.000 --> 00:14:09.879 Stage and kind of took a little bit away from the. 234 00:14:11.639 --> 00:14:14.600 News or coverage of Natalie's murder. 235 00:14:18.399 --> 00:14:22.679 Next, talk about November fifth, nineteen eighty six and his 236 00:14:22.799 --> 00:14:27.720 next victim. Stephanie Collins, seventeen years old, born in Kansas, 237 00:14:27.879 --> 00:14:31.120 a senior at high school. Tell us a little bit 238 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:33.840 about what she was doing, where she was working, and 239 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:36.840 how she goes missing. 240 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:47.639 Okay, so Stephanie Collins, this is later later on the 241 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:51.399 same year. As you said, she's a high school student. 242 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.879 She's a senior, seventeen year old senior at Chamberlain High 243 00:14:54.879 --> 00:15:00.320 School there in Tampa. You know, she was was by 244 00:15:00.320 --> 00:15:04.840 all accounts a very well liked young lady there at 245 00:15:04.840 --> 00:15:07.720 the school and was active in the school choir and whatnot. 246 00:15:07.840 --> 00:15:10.759 And you know, it being getting close to Christmas. She 247 00:15:10.919 --> 00:15:13.759 was wanting to earn a little extra money so she 248 00:15:13.799 --> 00:15:17.240 could buy some nice gifts for her for her family 249 00:15:17.279 --> 00:15:21.879 and friends, and so on this particular day on November fifth, 250 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:26.159 she stopped by the police that she worked part time, 251 00:15:26.200 --> 00:15:31.720 which was an Ecker drug store there and in the 252 00:15:31.799 --> 00:15:33.960 Tampa in the Tampa suburb there, Carol Wood is the 253 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:37.279 name of it, off of Dale Mabrey Road. 254 00:15:38.120 --> 00:15:39.039 So she stopped by there. 255 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:42.840 You know, she pulled into the shopping center parking lot 256 00:15:42.879 --> 00:15:46.000 and got out, went into eckerd and talked to the 257 00:15:47.120 --> 00:15:49.200 the manager in there to see if she could get 258 00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:52.879 some extra work. And you know, he actually offered to 259 00:15:53.000 --> 00:15:55.799 let her work that night because he needed somebody, but 260 00:15:56.440 --> 00:16:01.399 she had a a choir concert coming up that she 261 00:16:01.480 --> 00:16:04.320 needed to prepare for. There was choir practice that same night, 262 00:16:04.399 --> 00:16:06.879 so she wasn't able to take him up on the 263 00:16:06.879 --> 00:16:08.000 offer to work that night. 264 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.559 So she you know, thanked him and. 265 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:13.279 Walked out of the drug store to go back to 266 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:17.360 her car, and that was the last time that anybody 267 00:16:17.399 --> 00:16:22.000 saw her alive. Around four fifteen in the evening around 268 00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:23.200 November fifth. 269 00:16:26.960 --> 00:16:31.480 You write about her parents tearful televised plea for her 270 00:16:31.519 --> 00:16:36.919 safe return but you write. December fifth, nineteen eighty six, 271 00:16:37.000 --> 00:16:40.919 one month after Stephanie's disappearance, a man named Donald Gibson 272 00:16:41.919 --> 00:16:46.279 spots a group of vultures. Tell us what he first 273 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:49.480 sees and what he discovers to his whoror. 274 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:53.440 Okay, So yeah, this guy, he was he was driving 275 00:16:54.279 --> 00:16:58.480 to work in the morning there on December fifth, and 276 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:01.320 he spotted this this flow the birds, you know, these 277 00:17:01.759 --> 00:17:04.119 large birds gathered up by the road is you know 278 00:17:04.160 --> 00:17:08.160 sometimes you see you know, it's road killed that sort 279 00:17:08.200 --> 00:17:08.480 of thing. 280 00:17:09.359 --> 00:17:12.559 So he saw that, you know, at first he thought. 281 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.359 That they might be turkeys or something, but but he 282 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:16.720 got closer, he saw they were actually Italy vultures. And 283 00:17:17.400 --> 00:17:20.720 you know, in Florida we have these, uh these turkey vultures, 284 00:17:21.400 --> 00:17:23.559 so that that's what they ended up being. And so 285 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:26.000 he was a little curious about it, just wanted to 286 00:17:26.039 --> 00:17:27.880 kind of see what it was. So he so he 287 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.440 he pulled up there and got out of his car 288 00:17:29.559 --> 00:17:33.279 and walked off to the side of the road there 289 00:17:33.400 --> 00:17:35.599 and dirt road a little bit there and then and 290 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:39.799 he he saw what was attracting the birds, and it 291 00:17:39.839 --> 00:17:45.000 was a pair of pair of human feet and uh ahead, 292 00:17:45.359 --> 00:17:51.400 human head that was, you know, the getting the attention 293 00:17:51.440 --> 00:17:55.920 of the birds. They're they're obviously feasting on it. So 294 00:17:56.039 --> 00:18:00.839 he found this badly Decomo's body there, you know, off 295 00:18:00.839 --> 00:18:02.400 the road there a little bit and it was wrapped 296 00:18:02.440 --> 00:18:08.400 up in some cloth and obviously notified the police quickly, 297 00:18:09.720 --> 00:18:13.880 and they responded out there and you know, investigated and 298 00:18:14.799 --> 00:18:22.240 found uh, found this badly uh decomposed, you know, feltonized 299 00:18:22.240 --> 00:18:28.279 body out there with a wrapped up in a hospital 300 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:30.759 tal it turned out it said hospital property on it, 301 00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:33.680 and they, you know, they later were able to identify 302 00:18:33.759 --> 00:18:36.119 the remains as those of Stephanie Collins. 303 00:18:37.319 --> 00:18:40.079 So she had been missing. 304 00:18:39.759 --> 00:18:41.920 Just about a month exactly when her when her body 305 00:18:42.000 --> 00:18:45.440 was found. And you know, similar to Natalie Holly, she 306 00:18:45.680 --> 00:18:52.359 Stephanie Collins had been stabbed, but she'd also had skull injuries. 307 00:18:52.359 --> 00:18:56.599 Her skull had basically been crushed, uh in part of it. 308 00:19:00.160 --> 00:19:00.519 You're right. 309 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:05.359 On the same day, the Pascal County Sheriff's Office received 310 00:19:05.400 --> 00:19:11.079 word of another gruesome discovery. Moving crew discovered the body 311 00:19:11.119 --> 00:19:15.000 of twenty six year old Terry Lynn Matthews. Tell us 312 00:19:15.039 --> 00:19:18.240 what they found and what was her condition? Tell us 313 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:22.799 a little bit about her, all right. 314 00:19:22.680 --> 00:19:25.920 So, yeah, So Terry Lynn Matthews twenty six, same age 315 00:19:25.960 --> 00:19:29.319 as Natalie Hawley, and uh you know, and this this 316 00:19:29.359 --> 00:19:31.720 is the same day that they found Stuffannie Collins's body. 317 00:19:32.400 --> 00:19:38.960 Strangely enough, but they found they found Terry's body in 318 00:19:39.279 --> 00:19:42.680 a witted area in a rural part of Pascoe County. 319 00:19:44.559 --> 00:19:46.920 Her body was fully closed. It was ramped in, wrapped 320 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.240 up in a in a sheet that was that was wet, 321 00:19:49.279 --> 00:19:52.759 which was odd because there had not there hadn't been 322 00:19:52.759 --> 00:19:55.640 any rain recently or anything, so it was strange that 323 00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:59.279 the sheets she was wrapped wrapped in were wet. But 324 00:19:59.440 --> 00:20:06.279 like like Collins and Holly, Terry Lynn Matthews had also 325 00:20:06.359 --> 00:20:08.720 been been stabbed repeatedly. She'd been stabbed in the neck 326 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:13.920 and chest and then similar to Stephanie Collins, she also 327 00:20:14.000 --> 00:20:22.160 had head injuries launch trauma, head injuries and uh, you know, 328 00:20:22.240 --> 00:20:28.599 Matthews had been She had worked at at a bank 329 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:33.880 in Tampa predecessor of being in America. Essentially she worked. 330 00:20:34.200 --> 00:20:37.759 She worked a night shift typically too, and worked the 331 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:41.839 night of December fourth, so just you know, the night 332 00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:45.680 before she'd worked and after work it stopped by her 333 00:20:45.680 --> 00:20:50.960 boyfriend's house and was last seen, you know by him 334 00:20:51.039 --> 00:20:54.960 leaving about, you know, early in the morning, about two 335 00:20:55.000 --> 00:20:56.480 fifteen in the morning or so in the morning of 336 00:20:56.759 --> 00:21:00.319 December fifth, which was the morning her body was found. Atally, 337 00:21:04.039 --> 00:21:07.640 when she didn't call him later just to say that 338 00:21:07.680 --> 00:21:12.960 she got home safely, her boyfriend got a little worried, 339 00:21:13.279 --> 00:21:15.599 as you might imagine, and so he decided to go 340 00:21:15.599 --> 00:21:20.200 out looking for and drove from you know, drove the 341 00:21:20.240 --> 00:21:22.960 route from from his place to where her house was, 342 00:21:23.240 --> 00:21:26.200 where she lived with her parents in a little town 343 00:21:26.200 --> 00:21:29.680 called Reserve Town in Florida. So on his way there, 344 00:21:29.759 --> 00:21:33.839 he passed by the post office in Landa Lakes and 345 00:21:34.119 --> 00:21:38.079 spotted you know, her car sitting there in the parking 346 00:21:38.079 --> 00:21:41.759 lot of the post office and pulled up to it 347 00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:46.920 to take a look, and found a bunch of envelopes 348 00:21:47.079 --> 00:21:51.680 mail that was addressed to her her parents kind of 349 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.200 littered around on the ground there right outside the car there, 350 00:21:56.279 --> 00:21:59.480 and you know, obviously she was nowhere to be found. 351 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:08.119 You say too, that they found a pink and turquoise 352 00:22:08.119 --> 00:22:10.680 ear rings, pair of pink and turquoise e rings, and 353 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:15.839 her front her person in the front seat. Now you 354 00:22:15.920 --> 00:22:20.599 talk about Oscar Ray Bolan born in January nineteen sixty two, 355 00:22:22.000 --> 00:22:27.119 his father, Oscar Ray Bowlan Senior and Mary Brock tell 356 00:22:27.200 --> 00:22:32.119 us about his life and what you found him growing 357 00:22:32.160 --> 00:22:34.640 up in the environment in Portland, Indiana. 358 00:22:36.039 --> 00:22:41.079 Yeah, so Bolan, you know, he he was described by 359 00:22:41.160 --> 00:22:44.880 his mom as being a little bit different than her 360 00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:50.720 other kids. He was she described as being very quiet 361 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:54.759 and odd acting is what she called called it. But 362 00:22:57.400 --> 00:23:02.400 he wasn't in trouble much growing up with uh as 363 00:23:02.400 --> 00:23:08.720 far as you know, formal problems with authority or or 364 00:23:08.799 --> 00:23:12.519 law enforcement. He didn't seem to have any real real 365 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:16.880 problems as far as that went, but he did. 366 00:23:16.960 --> 00:23:17.960 He did have some. 367 00:23:20.160 --> 00:23:23.160 Injuries when he was growing up. When he was younger, 368 00:23:23.160 --> 00:23:26.960 he fell off a roof of a house and hit 369 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:30.240 his head and you know, as you might imagine, he 370 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:33.839 hit it so hard that it wasn't good. He got 371 00:23:33.839 --> 00:23:40.279 a lost consciousness, had a concussion, and apparently had had 372 00:23:40.319 --> 00:23:43.720 quite a few concussions growing up as a kid. And 373 00:23:43.839 --> 00:23:47.759 when he was a little bit older he was hospitalized 374 00:23:47.799 --> 00:23:52.240 for having a vitamin vitamin deficiency vitamin K deficiency. 375 00:23:56.079 --> 00:23:57.559 Was described as a loner. 376 00:23:59.039 --> 00:24:03.480 By some and did eventually as he got more into 377 00:24:03.480 --> 00:24:09.319 his teenage years, did eventually end up having some adverse 378 00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:16.920 encounters with law enforcements, you know, started having some some thefts, 379 00:24:17.400 --> 00:24:19.640 things like this, and by the time he was fifteen, 380 00:24:19.680 --> 00:24:23.000 he spent some time in juvenile attention, was let out 381 00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:28.720 on probation. Shortly after that, ended up leaving home, going 382 00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:32.799 out on his own and started working, you know, just 383 00:24:32.920 --> 00:24:37.880 various various jobs, construction jobs, things like that. His his 384 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:49.240 his family members owned a carnival and he started working 385 00:24:49.279 --> 00:24:52.960 with them and some of the puble dose and things 386 00:24:53.000 --> 00:24:56.799 like that. So that's how he survived there after he 387 00:24:56.799 --> 00:24:57.799 after he moved out. 388 00:24:59.680 --> 00:25:03.519 Around that time, you say, or soon after he meets 389 00:25:04.039 --> 00:25:08.319 his future wife. But at that time Cheryl Haffner, and 390 00:25:09.240 --> 00:25:13.039 again you say, he talks about the continued petty theft 391 00:25:13.160 --> 00:25:17.319 or convicted of theft, nothing any more serious than that. 392 00:25:18.240 --> 00:25:20.359 Even say he receies a ten year of prison sentence, 393 00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:23.880 but then it was suspended one year probation. But in 394 00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:27.400 the eighties, Bollen plans to move to the Sunshine State, 395 00:25:27.599 --> 00:25:32.160 to Florida with Hafner, and he relocates to Pascal County. 396 00:25:33.759 --> 00:25:36.680 Tell us what he does there and how he survives 397 00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:41.519 again in this area before we talk about nineteen eighty 398 00:25:41.559 --> 00:25:44.920 two and a major incident with Halfner. 399 00:25:49.160 --> 00:25:53.960 Well, he had relatives there in Florida, and you know, 400 00:25:54.000 --> 00:25:55.680 I think part of the reason why he decided to 401 00:25:55.720 --> 00:25:59.279