Speaker 1: Weird Things happened in.
Speaker 2: Weird, Weird, Weird.
Speaker 1: Welcome to episode one sixty nine. I've lets have said, so,
Speaker 1: we have a special, very special guest today, Chris Ramsey.
Speaker 1: That's me. Yeah, that was it. That was the bring in.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't even know where to again. Dude,
Speaker 1: this is like, it's crazy that you're even here. Wow, Like,
Speaker 1: there's so much to cover. So we were at Monroe together.
Speaker 1: If you've heard the three part series, I talked about Chris,
Speaker 1: I talked about Hannah, who's also with us. Maybe we'll
Speaker 1: get around to recording with her later, but in the meantime,
Speaker 1: we are going to I think, if you are right
Speaker 1: with it, we should just debrief what happened last night.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we could start with that. That's probably
Speaker 3: a good way to start it. Yeah you want to
Speaker 3: go ahead and well off.
Speaker 1: Yeah, why not? So okay, So Chris, he basically is
Speaker 1: like flying in and it's in the middle of a
Speaker 1: tropical storm, right, So I'm sitting there all day sweating like, ooh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if we're going to
Speaker 1: make the drive. I'm telling Jenny, like, we're probably gonna
Speaker 1: do it in the morning. Maybe for a day trip,
Speaker 1: and I go to pick him up and then it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I see you face to face, and I
Speaker 1: just I just immediately felt like, God, I can't disappoint you, dude,
Speaker 1: Like I know, I'm switching perspectives here now I'm telling you.
Speaker 1: I was telling them, Yeah, you know, I see you
Speaker 1: face to face, and I'm like, dude, I just I
Speaker 1: can't disappoint you.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: I want to take you to meet my dad. We've
Speaker 1: been talking about this for months. So we're like, let's go,
Speaker 1: you know, right when we get in the car. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we get back to the house, you know, we
Speaker 1: settle in a little bit and we make the drive
Speaker 1: and we can go into that if you want the
Speaker 1: dad story, but I just wanted to preface that, Like
Speaker 1: we drive all the way through a tropical storm, you know,
Speaker 1: waters flooding the roads and everything. We get there, I'm
Speaker 1: hoping we're gonna SkyWatch. It's going to be epic, and
Speaker 1: then you know, we don't see anything because it's raining. Yep.
Speaker 1: So canople go into any of that before we move
Speaker 1: on like what it was.
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, we could save it. We could probably
Speaker 3: save that, or we can the dad like, yeah, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: no meetingum I think was I mean outstanding. We stayed
Speaker 3: up till three in the morning talking and just going
Speaker 3: through stuff like that's the thing. It's like, I didn't
Speaker 3: come for the orbs, Like that's not why I wanted
Speaker 3: to meet, and that's not why I wanted to come
Speaker 3: hang out. You know, it's a nice bonus if we
Speaker 3: get to do something like that, but I just I
Speaker 3: was happy just to hang out honestly and just have
Speaker 3: like amazing conversations, which we had mind blowing conversations, a
Speaker 3: lot of laughs as well. Yeah, got to perform magic,
Speaker 3: you know for your parents, and.
Speaker 1: My mom was like, I need a heart pill? Is
Speaker 1: it real? Is it real? You're like, you know, pulling
Speaker 1: your finger off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was better than that, all right, I'm kidding.
Speaker 3: Was it was literally just me pulling my finger off.
Speaker 1: Mine looks like something else, but you know, anyway, So
Speaker 1: I felt really bad, you know, because a lot of
Speaker 1: people fly from all around or you know, make up
Speaker 1: long drive like recently someone hopped in the car and
Speaker 1: drove twenty hours from Texas and they just knocked on
Speaker 1: the door and you know that whoa. Yeah, So like
Speaker 1: when people come out and there's like bad weather and
Speaker 1: we don't get to SkyWatch. I really, I feel terrible.
Speaker 1: So I was like, dang, you know.
Speaker 3: I didn't even think of it, to be honest, like
Speaker 3: the entire time I've never I know, you were like, oh,
Speaker 3: is it still cloudy? And so I was just like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it doesn't matter. Like I was so happy to just
Speaker 3: be there and chat. And you know, I've I've had
Speaker 3: my own experiences yeah with this phenomenon, and so I
Speaker 3: don't need any more validation that something is occurring. I'm
Speaker 3: pretty pretty confident that I, you know, I have a
Speaker 3: grasp on my own reality and what.
Speaker 1: It is I saw.
Speaker 3: But I was interested in in hearing, you know, your
Speaker 3: dad's perspective of it and your perspective of it, and
Speaker 3: sort of just being among your family dynamic was really
Speaker 3: nice as well, seeing how close you guys are, and
Speaker 3: you know, it was It was truly I think I
Speaker 3: said this earlier in the day, but it felt familiar
Speaker 3: being there. I didn't feel like an outcast whatsoever. I
Speaker 3: didn't feel weird. There was no moments of awkwardness. It
Speaker 3: was like I felt like I was home with family. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the second I.
Speaker 1: Got there, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 3: And then we got to hang out, we got to chat,
Speaker 3: and the next day we had Hakem come down. We
Speaker 3: got to hang with him a bit. I got to
Speaker 3: film with your father, which was cool. And then we
Speaker 3: headed back and you know, Ryan, I was like, you
Speaker 3: know what, the sky might clear up tonight. We might
Speaker 3: be able to get some sky watching in. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: if it does, it does, And sure enough sky cleared up.
Speaker 3: We ended up going down to the beach.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we decided, you know, earlier in the day
Speaker 1: that we're gonna go to the beach at that evening
Speaker 1: because it's Casey's birthday. You know, they know who Casey is.
Speaker 1: You know, it's been on the show a few times,
Speaker 1: and she's our artist, you know, Nick's wife. By the way,
Speaker 1: she probably mentioned that Nick is sick tonight, so unfortunately
Speaker 1: he can't be here, you.
Speaker 3: Know, shut out Nick. Yeah, we got to hang out
Speaker 3: last night. At least we got to SkyWatch together, but
Speaker 3: he came down with something, so yeah, unfortunately, yeah.
Speaker 1: And he's greatly missed. So anyway, so yesterday was Casey's birthday,
Speaker 1: so we kind of had this plan going like we're
Speaker 1: gonna be at the beach at night, and you know,
Speaker 1: we decided we're gonna go whether turn out being perfect,
Speaker 1: So you know, me, you, Genny, and Hannah are gonna go,
Speaker 1: you know, basically drive to meet them later after they're
Speaker 1: getting at the beach and in the car, I'm briefing
Speaker 1: you guys. I'm like, look, there may or may not
Speaker 1: be someone here tonight who hasn't seen things yet. So
Speaker 1: let's start really setting our intention right, Let's start getting
Speaker 1: into that headspace, sending our thoughts to the sky. When
Speaker 1: we get there, and I think, like the inner energy
Speaker 1: of our group will, you know, make something happen. And
Speaker 1: I have a good feeling about it, basically, I mean
Speaker 1: I said it a little differently. So then we make
Speaker 1: the twenty minute drive to the beach, We get there,
Speaker 1: we start to walk on the sand, and what happened.
Speaker 3: Literally instantly we look up and there was like activity,
Speaker 3: just all sorts of activity like you know every when
Speaker 3: you're skywatching you might see these things just kind of
Speaker 3: like streak over the sky. But it was more than that.
Speaker 3: There was some of them that were glowing, pulsating, getting brighter,
Speaker 3: moving faster, moving slower like change in speed flashes. I
Speaker 3: saw these incredible flashes.
Speaker 1: Kept saying Kodak, Yeah, I was like a.
Speaker 3: Camera flash in the sky that kept like. I was like,
Speaker 3: the heck, you know, where's that coming from? And then
Speaker 3: we're doing we're doing this.
Speaker 1: We just got there.
Speaker 3: I would say estimate ten to fifteen minutes, and we're
Speaker 3: already buzzing. We're like cool, this has happened, and this
Speaker 3: is so cool, so much activity already.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're like vlogging everybody.
Speaker 3: I'm vlogging because I'm like in such a great mood.
Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, you like, we filmed this,
Speaker 3: and you know this will be released eventually, this video.
Speaker 3: But I was filming myself and you can see my
Speaker 3: face completely change and the utter, like, I mean we
Speaker 3: saw something, yeah over the ocean, no exaggeration, no exaggeration.
Speaker 3: It was like that big yeah, right out in the ocean,
Speaker 3: that big. So the moon is like this big. This
Speaker 3: thing was like this big right.
Speaker 1: Moon is full like from perspective, you know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was huge, and it was like a row
Speaker 3: of like I don't know, eight to ten lights, just
Speaker 3: a row of these orange fiery lights.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.
Speaker 3: And they just all appear at the same time. It's
Speaker 3: kind of like, what like this right just materialized? Yeah,
Speaker 3: you just hear somebody go, oh my god, what is that?
Speaker 1: What do I think it was Casey or it was Nick.
Speaker 1: They're like, what is that? What is that?
Speaker 3: You just see my face?
Speaker 1: Goat you were in the middle of a vlog, yeah, because.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, we just saw some flashes whatnot.
Speaker 3: And then I just go I turn in my face.
Speaker 3: You see my face? It's mind blowing what I'm looking at.
Speaker 3: And I turned the camera and I got the tail
Speaker 3: end of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, as it's fading out. As it's fading out, But
Speaker 1: something something that happened was I just I want to
Speaker 1: stress what he was saying when he says it's that big,
Speaker 1: because is it all my Can they see this? When
Speaker 1: he says it was that big? We were talking about
Speaker 1: this about two hours ago. And it's like perspective, right,
Speaker 1: you look at the moon and it's about an inch,
Speaker 1: Like if you hold your finger up or a ruler,
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, this is about an inch. It's obviously
Speaker 1: way bigger than that, but from your perspective, if you
Speaker 1: scale it down, that's that's about how much of your
Speaker 1: vision that it covers with the sky. This thing was
Speaker 1: bigger than that. Imagine the implications of this. It was
Speaker 1: super massive, dude, what we were looking at. It was crazy.
Speaker 1: It was enormous. It was long. If you know, if
Speaker 1: you had a ruler to the horizon, that thing was
Speaker 1: two or three inches and yes, my voice is going out,
Speaker 1: moving on, but if you hold a ruler up to
Speaker 1: the horizon, it was super long. And something that you
Speaker 1: forgot to mention was that when it was about to
Speaker 1: fade out, it did a wave. These these lights they
Speaker 1: like they went out in a wave and then it
Speaker 1: faded out. We were screaming.
Speaker 3: It was insane. It was an insane thing to witness.
Speaker 3: And then as soon as it was done, we see
Speaker 3: this couple running down the beach and we're asking, did
Speaker 3: you see that? Did you see that? And they're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we called the police, the coast guard. They called the
Speaker 3: coast guard, yeah, because they're like, something's happening out there.
Speaker 3: They're like, maybe it was flares, and I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: nobody shoot someone's drowning. Nobody shoots up ten flares at
Speaker 3: the same time that are like like just sitting there.
Speaker 4: I've called the Coastguard about a flare, and that was
Speaker 4: very different than what y'all are describing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this didn't go up and down either. It was
Speaker 3: like it materialized. It was there. It was like waw,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, we're all looking like what
Speaker 3: is that? And then it just kind of like went away.
Speaker 1: Imagine ten orbs side by side, like like stacked like
Speaker 1: almost like a snake. It wasn't a snake, but the shape,
Speaker 1: the way it like waved and they flashed out. Dude,
Speaker 1: Chris was shaking and I was just looking at you.
Speaker 1: My heart was being so fast. You were shaking. You
Speaker 1: were like, look at me. You were recording your shop,
Speaker 1: Look at me. I'm shaking.
Speaker 4: And there's no boats that have that sort of light.
Speaker 1: Pattern either, right, Yeah, you.
Speaker 3: Know this was just for the listener.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: This was way over the so in terms of like
Speaker 3: inches if this thing is like that, this was like
Speaker 3: five inches over the water, like from a distance, and.
Speaker 1: It was out. It was way out in the sea. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was. It was. It was incredible. Did you show
Speaker 1: him the footage? No, I wanted to save it for now.
Speaker 1: If you want to show him now.
Speaker 3: Well I can show you the second one. So the
Speaker 3: thing is, we see this couple, they're like panicking. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 3: we call the coast guard. We don't know what to
Speaker 3: make of that. We're saying, like, well, maybe it was
Speaker 3: something else, you know, maybe it's something else. And as
Speaker 3: we're talking about this, the girl that there's a guy
Speaker 3: and a girl, and the girl starts opening up about
Speaker 3: something that happened to her father in nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 3: on the same beach and that these orbs went overhead
Speaker 3: and he was partying with his friends, and his friends
Speaker 3: him and his friends woke up like hours later blacked
Speaker 3: out after these orbs came direct Three orbs came directly
Speaker 3: over her head, and then he had like something in
Speaker 3: the back of his knee or whatever.
Speaker 1: She was swearing by this, and she was completely thoughts
Speaker 1: on me.
Speaker 3: The dude was drunk. Oh, she was sober.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was very he was drunk. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was having a good time. But she was pretty lucid,
Speaker 1: and she was pretty excited to talk about it with us.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you Yeah, she opened up like
Speaker 1: even he didn't know about it, I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: about it, you know. Yep.
Speaker 3: And then and then as we're talking, and we're still
Speaker 3: buzzing and talking about all this.
Speaker 1: Another one appears. Well first we saw okay, so this
Speaker 1: is the way that I kind of so we saw
Speaker 1: the big one first. They come running up to us
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, did y'all see that?
Speaker 1: And they start saying it's flares. It's flares, right, And
Speaker 1: we see some like ordinary looking I mean I say ordinary.
Speaker 1: None of this is ordinary, but like regular orbs that
Speaker 1: we see thousands of thousands. We see a few of
Speaker 1: those regular christ is filming kind, yeah, the ordinary kind,
Speaker 1: and Chris is filming. He's like talking to them. It
Speaker 1: was dude, it was really some Channel five stuff like
Speaker 1: you wait to easy the footage. It's hilarious. And he's
Speaker 1: filming them and he's asking them questions and they're just
Speaker 1: like going along with his questions, and they're they're kind
Speaker 1: of like kind of enjoying talking to us, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And we see some regular orbs and they're like, well
Speaker 1: this was flaires. So I was like, well, what do
Speaker 1: you think about that one? What do you think about
Speaker 1: that one? Who was like, well, maybe that's a satellite
Speaker 1: and or maybe it was an airplane. I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know, too high to be an airplane, and
Speaker 1: you know, she starts telling us the story that he shared,
Speaker 1: you know, and while they were next to us, another
Speaker 1: one of the super massive orange things appears, but instead
Speaker 1: of this time it being eight to ten lights.
Speaker 3: It's like two yeah, and then it goes down to one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I recorded the indios kind of yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: show this toon Okay, Alayer, this is crazy.
Speaker 4: We have not a player who we could drop this
Speaker 4: footage in the post that saying no, there's a craft out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we can do it in post. Yeah, we can
Speaker 1: overlay it in this That's the UFO just saw two
Speaker 1: of them. Look as crazy as that video is. That's
Speaker 1: the second one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first one was.
Speaker 1: The first one was astronomically more mind blowing in insane
Speaker 1: and and and like the only one who had a
Speaker 1: camera out on it was Chris. But the problem is
Speaker 1: he had the Osmo camera, which is like the swivel
Speaker 1: gyroscope camera. It's not like he could just turn his
Speaker 1: camera around like I had a specific you know, swivel
Speaker 1: function then yeah, zoom and it locks in. It's not
Speaker 1: like for that I caught in the tail of it.
Speaker 1: Put that in. Yeah please right, yeah, and so yeah,
Speaker 1: so his OZMA was on his face and he was
Speaker 1: talking about an ORB. He was seeing the first one, right,
Speaker 1: And then as it appears, I'm sitting there stunned. My
Speaker 1: hands are in my pocket. I'm like, dude, I can't,
Speaker 1: I can't think it was well, I wasn't scared. I
Speaker 1: was amazed, and I was I mean, I'm pretty used
Speaker 1: to it, like this stuff doesn't scare me anymore, but
Speaker 1: it was so shocking, and like what I say is Eldridge,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I couldn't believe what
Speaker 1: was running through my head. Was I am so glad
Speaker 1: that Chris and Hannah are seeing this. That was what
Speaker 1: was running through my mind. This is destiny. It was
Speaker 1: meant to be that you guys would come here and
Speaker 1: that you would see this. I knew, without a shadow
Speaker 1: of a doubt that something very amazing was happening. That
Speaker 1: you guys were receiving a blessing from this, obviously all
Speaker 1: of us, but particularly you guys, because you know, if
Speaker 1: me and my crew saw that, and it was just
Speaker 1: us we always see stuff, it wouldn't really been a
Speaker 1: big deal. But you guys were here with us to
Speaker 1: share this with us. Yeah, so anyway, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was super special, dude, it was man, and
Speaker 3: we saw other things that night. We saw a ton
Speaker 3: of things like streaks and all sorts of whiles.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we'll save the streak for the end the finale. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: So to wrap up the dude, I have to get
Speaker 1: to this point because it's the most important point of
Speaker 1: the night. So he sees a couple of orbs, and
Speaker 1: then the other one, the video you just watched, the
Speaker 1: second one pops up and they're seeing it with us
Speaker 1: and they're like, oh my god, you know, and they
Speaker 1: start to kind of be open to the idea that
Speaker 1: maybe it's something else, right, maybe it's not a flair.
Speaker 1: They like, couldn't explain it. And he, you know, we
Speaker 1: start going into the story about her dad from nineteen
Speaker 1: sixty eight and you know, this isn't a coincidence, and
Speaker 1: she was all, oh my god, I've always believed she
Speaker 1: had never even told her husband, right, yeah, it was
Speaker 1: her first time ever telling her husband. And then the
Speaker 1: husband said, well that he said, well that might be
Speaker 1: my cue to leave. I'm not trying to get sucked up.
Speaker 3: So you can buy the not trying to get sucked up.
Speaker 3: T shirts, let's have said so website.
Speaker 1: No, I'm trying to get sucked up, just trying to
Speaker 1: get sucked up. I'm trying to get sucked up.
Speaker 3: Just just a drunk eye on a beach yelling.
Speaker 1: Get sucked up. He said, I better leave. That was
Speaker 1: so funny.
Speaker 3: It was very funny. But you can tell he was
Speaker 3: a little scared. Oh yeah, you know, trying to get
Speaker 3: sucked You trying to get sucked up, dude. He definitely
Speaker 3: not trying to get sucked up.
Speaker 1: Yes, it was. It was magical, man, and I was
Speaker 1: so glad to share that with you guys, and you know,
Speaker 1: it was it was just very mind blowing. And then
Speaker 1: the finale that I was saying, let's save it for
Speaker 1: a second, Okay, So maybe an hour or an hour
Speaker 1: and a half goes by and we're all just kind
Speaker 1: of laying there and enjoying the vibe. We're all mind
Speaker 1: blown over that, right, So we didn't see anything for
Speaker 1: a while, and then you and Hannah were like, it's
Speaker 1: been a while, yeah, and you were like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: know what I think you said. Christina always says, what
Speaker 1: did you say? Do you remember what you said.
Speaker 3: Kind of the fact that like we're all so basically
Speaker 3: when we got there, we had this buzzing energy. We
Speaker 3: had this like we want to see something energy, and
Speaker 3: the whole group we were with wanted to see something,
Speaker 3: and it kind of was just happening instantly, and all
Speaker 3: these things were popping off and it was kind of cool.
Speaker 3: And then as we did that, we're all kind of
Speaker 3: on this coming down from this crazy high, and now
Speaker 3: we're all sort of chatting and having our own little
Speaker 3: conversations and like we're distracted.
Speaker 1: We're like, we're not trying.
Speaker 3: To make anything happen, right, and so we just kept
Speaker 3: glancing up momentarily to see but nothing was really going
Speaker 3: on anymore. Literally, it stopped for like an hour at least,
Speaker 3: it literally stopped like as like I swear, in like
Speaker 3: fifteen minutes we saw so much activity and then nothing
Speaker 3: like literally nothing, not one little thing for the longest time.
Speaker 3: And then we started talking about the Sphinx. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and the star, well.
Speaker 1: You brought it up though I brought it up before
Speaker 1: we talked about the Sphinx in this are you said, well,
Speaker 1: let's refocus our intentions. That's right, and Hannah was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: one more time, one more time, and we were like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: let's do that. Let's think of our thoughts together on
Speaker 1: this guy. And I kind of made the joke to
Speaker 1: you guys, like my dad always says, let's cut the
Speaker 1: football chat. Does ever we were addressing this, like, let's
Speaker 1: put our thoughts in our and our intentions together, and
Speaker 1: you were like, look in this spot and let's see
Speaker 1: if we can get it to appear one more time. Okay,
Speaker 1: So you set that intention. Then we start talking about
Speaker 1: the sphinx.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Hannah's like, what about the sphinx? And you said, oh,
Speaker 1: it's it's what Chrissinia told me, right, the alignment thing,
Speaker 1: like Ryan tell her about the alignment. So I start
Speaker 1: saying the alignment and then what happened.
Speaker 3: And the second you the second you were done, like
Speaker 3: your sentence, this giant streak goes right over our heads
Speaker 3: and it was it was under the clouds. It was
Speaker 3: like way under the clouds, like and it was just
Speaker 3: like this streak. It was like like thicker than a
Speaker 3: shooting star. I don't know how to really describe it,
Speaker 3: but yeah, it was pretty freaking cool. Kind of scared me.
Speaker 3: I was like it was right there. Yeah, and after that,
Speaker 3: after that it was pretty much done.
Speaker 1: That was like and then Jenny saw one more. I
Speaker 1: didn't see it. I was looking at you guys.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I saw that one too. Yeah, there was
Speaker 3: a tiny one that might have been a shooting story
Speaker 3: to be honest. That was like way up high, but
Speaker 3: who knows, who knows. But the other one it like
Speaker 3: the clouds were out.
Speaker 1: So yeah, the into our magical night.
Speaker 3: And and if you want to, if you want to
Speaker 3: check out the full story, well you're just gonna have
Speaker 3: to wait till I cut all this together, after I
Speaker 3: after I pull my hair out for a month editing
Speaker 3: all this footage.
Speaker 1: Yeah, on on channel by the way.
Speaker 3: Area fifty two, Yeah, fifty two investigations.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Yeah, okay, what do you want
Speaker 1: to get into? Well, okay, so you're a very very
Speaker 1: prominent accomplished magician. I thank you. Yeah, And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just saying it like it is. You know,
Speaker 1: like you have an amazing magic channel, you know on YouTube,
Speaker 1: Chris Ramsey is this channel, and you've done very well.
Speaker 1: You have now, or rather I have had the amazing
Speaker 1: opportunity to see you perform magic many many times in person,
Speaker 1: and you know, we've only been friends for three months now,
Speaker 1: so I went from not knowing about you and what
Speaker 1: you do to like kind of being in your circle
Speaker 1: and like be like, whoa, this is sick. My friend's
Speaker 1: a magician and you know, so like anyway, where I'm
Speaker 1: going with this is I'm now coming to understand spending
Speaker 1: the last few days with you outside him in a
Speaker 1: row and you know, really getting into this stuff, and
Speaker 1: we're getting ready to do the pod and you know,
Speaker 1: we did some filming for your channel, and now I'm
Speaker 1: coming to understand that you're you're at this point where
Speaker 1: you're ready to get into something new. Yeah, is that
Speaker 1: okay for me to say? Absolutely, You're you're ready to
Speaker 1: go deeper and kind of like start from the ground
Speaker 1: up with this new passion of yours. So you know,
Speaker 1: sure we could talk magic, but I really want to
Speaker 1: start with Area fifty two. Yeah, doubt that, you know
Speaker 1: if you want to go with like why you're kind
Speaker 1: of where you're at, where you want to your passion?
Speaker 1: Why you want to get into area fifty two? What
Speaker 1: is Area fifty too? Yeah?
Speaker 3: So this is yeah, this is a new venture it's
Speaker 3: a bit of play on words, you know, fifty two
Speaker 3: to fifty two cards in a deck type deal.
Speaker 1: So that's yeah, that's the that's the reason. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3: So it's kind of like it ties into you know,
Speaker 3: what I did and who I am. You know, I
Speaker 3: love magic. I always have Puzzles are cool too, but
Speaker 3: magic is like my my first love in terms of
Speaker 3: like all this stuff, right, and it's led me down
Speaker 3: so many great paths. But the reason I got into
Speaker 3: magic in the first place was the love for the unknown, right.
Speaker 3: I've always been fascinated. I remember being kid watching Unsolved
Speaker 3: Mysteries and I remember, you know, the host being like,
Speaker 3: this is based on a true story, you know, and
Speaker 3: like and they're talking about you know, UFOs and all
Speaker 3: this stuff and like spontaneous combustion and all sorts of
Speaker 3: like wild stuff, and I'm like, what do you mean
Speaker 3: this is based on a true story. My my sort
Speaker 3: of impressionable brain as a young man was like, wait,
Speaker 3: an adult's telling me this is real. So this is real, right?
Speaker 3: And so I always had that. I was always inclined
Speaker 3: to the paranormal and.
Speaker 1: The extra the mystery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly, exactly everything that everything that you sort of
Speaker 3: is encompassed by that, and it led me to you know,
Speaker 3: see people like Uri Geller bending spoons and stopping watches
Speaker 3: and whatnot and so on and so forth, and these
Speaker 3: psychic abilities, and you know, as a young man, I'm like, dang,
Speaker 3: I want to do that. That's like a superpower. I
Speaker 3: want a superpower. I want to be able to do
Speaker 3: supernatural things. And you know, so pursuing magic was a
Speaker 3: natural way to get there. And then, you know, come
Speaker 3: to find out it's trickery and it's light of hand
Speaker 3: and misdirection and showmanship and suggestion and all these remarkable
Speaker 3: psychological you know, tool and not disappointed. I'm very happy
Speaker 3: by that because I'm like, now I get to I
Speaker 3: get to learn something. I get to apply what I've
Speaker 3: learned and create this beautiful art and give people these
Speaker 3: special moments and all that. But then, you know, this
Speaker 3: thing kind of stays with me, this love for the unknown.
Speaker 3: And now I know magic, I know what it is,
Speaker 3: but I still don't know what all this other stuff is.
Speaker 3: And it hasn't brought me any closer to that, really, right,
Speaker 3: And I've always always been fascinated with you know, just
Speaker 3: ets or like the the idea of consciousness or the
Speaker 3: idea of like all these fantastic things that I think
Speaker 3: none of people are talking about. You know, they're really important.
Speaker 3: They're probably the most important things ever, you know, in
Speaker 3: terms of they're almost as important as dinosaurs. I feel like,
Speaker 3: you know, yeah, I would say more as well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but you know what I mean, like these are things
Speaker 3: that people are just not talking enough about. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 3: we're so we're so sort of saturated with so much
Speaker 3: information that we kind of like, well whatever, but I'm like, no,
Speaker 3: this is amazing. And so I've always had a punchant
Speaker 3: towards this stuff. And I had kind of I had
Speaker 3: multiple but I had some burnouts, you know, on the
Speaker 3: YouTube channel doing this day and day out feeding the machine,
Speaker 3: you know, these employees, and I had certain amount of
Speaker 3: content I had to dish out in order to pay
Speaker 3: bills and keep the lights on. Right, So it becomes
Speaker 3: this like what started as this joyous fun, you know,
Speaker 3: celebration of my own creativity, which eventually paid for itself
Speaker 3: and more, and that was so much fun. Now it
Speaker 3: was like, well as things are, as the numbers are
Speaker 3: sort of declining, well then I have to pick up
Speaker 3: the pace and then oh no, we can't catch up anymore.
Speaker 3: And now it's just this thing I don't want to do.
Speaker 3: Now it's like, oh, well, where where the go?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 3: Because now it's all about the shiny things, it's all
Speaker 3: about paying bills and it's all about that stuff. And
Speaker 3: I'm like, that's no fun. And I find myself having
Speaker 3: so much fun performing magic.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yeah, I picked up on that.
Speaker 3: Even if I don't film it and upload it and
Speaker 3: edit it right. And so it's not like my passion
Speaker 3: for magic went away. It's my passion for wanting to
Speaker 3: create content out of it constantly.
Speaker 1: That sort of died down, I understand. Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then what happened was my friend Nelson Dallas, who
Speaker 3: you know, Shout out Nelson, Shout out Nelson. He's a
Speaker 3: five time US Memory champion. Yes, I reached out to him.
Speaker 3: Incredible guy, he's incredible incredible memories. Actually, at the end
Speaker 3: of the month he'll be competing for a six time
Speaker 3: championship in Orlando.
Speaker 1: Let's hope Nelson Dallas wins. Send him vibes, yes, and
Speaker 1: I absolutely will be calling him at some point hopefully
Speaker 1: this year, to try to get him on the show
Speaker 1: and he'll hardly do it. Yeah, well we talked about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a fantastic guy and he's been actually with
Speaker 3: me on my journey into Area fifty two. And the
Speaker 3: reason I mentioned him is because I hit him up
Speaker 3: once to learn how to create a mind palace. And
Speaker 3: you can check out his channel. He teaches you know,
Speaker 3: he teaches you how to remember Morse code and how
Speaker 3: to remember the alphabet backwards and like all the US
Speaker 3: presidents and all these cool tricks using mnemonics. And so
Speaker 3: he taught me how to memorize of deck of cards
Speaker 3: under five minutes through practice, right, creating a mind palace
Speaker 3: and all this stuff.
Speaker 1: Loved it. It was amazing.
Speaker 3: I made a video on my channel with him, and
Speaker 3: then one day we're on a podcast and he slips
Speaker 3: in this thing where he says, hey, yeah, I made
Speaker 3: some money.
Speaker 1: Like months ago.
Speaker 3: This guy hit me up and he taught me remote
Speaker 3: viewing and I'm like, what do you mean, what is that?
Speaker 3: I've heard that before and he's like, well, it's this
Speaker 3: thing that like psychic spies used to do that worked
Speaker 3: for the government and there's a spy on Rusher or something,
Speaker 3: and yeah, I don't know. They were like, hey, do
Speaker 3: you want to make money or a memory champion? We
Speaker 3: can teach you this and play the stock market for
Speaker 3: this group of like hedge fund investors that want to
Speaker 3: pay us to do that. So he proceeded to learn
Speaker 3: how to remote view for a month. They trained him
Speaker 3: an hour day and then he made money remote view
Speaker 3: and he tells me this, and I'm like, dude, can
Speaker 3: you teach me? And he goes, yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, Okay, this is an interesting video. Now
Speaker 3: I'm thinking from my main channel still, right, because I
Speaker 3: hadn't created Area fifty two, and so I start filming
Speaker 3: myself learning this, and I'm getting results that are like
Speaker 3: making the hairs on my body stand up.
Speaker 1: Dude, when we were at Monroe together, I paid attention
Speaker 1: to this. We were sitting with Joe mcmonagall, right, And
Speaker 1: we can go a little more into Monroe later if
Speaker 1: you'd like, you know, I would love to, yeah, But
Speaker 1: we were at Monroe together, right, So I'm looking around
Speaker 1: the room we're doing the remote viewing. Joe mcmonagall is
Speaker 1: coaching us how to do it, and I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my page and I'm getting hits. But they're like not
Speaker 1: really strong. It's like, you know, the Devil's Tower. I
Speaker 1: drew like a cylinder and I wrote like maybe rock
Speaker 1: or something. You know. I look over at your page
Speaker 1: and you drew like you were drawing like landscapes like you.
Speaker 1: I think one of them was it was the one
Speaker 1: in uh we had the Devil's Tower. What was in
Speaker 1: Saint Louis. Saint Louis a stadium? You drew the stadium. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you drew. I saw it. I was like, holy shit,
Speaker 1: you know you you mapped it out. Yeah, you nailed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I mean that type of stuff happens
Speaker 3: when you do it every day, like you get crazy
Speaker 3: hits and they get way better than that. I was
Speaker 3: not impressed by that hit whatsoever. After I've seen a
Speaker 3: lot of the hits I was that Nelson and I
Speaker 3: have had.
Speaker 4: Can I ask you a question about this? What's your
Speaker 4: practice routine every day?
Speaker 3: Just so I don't do it anymore rarely? What what
Speaker 3: I did it for a year then? Just every every
Speaker 3: day you would? So there's these random image generators online
Speaker 3: that are made for remo viewing.
Speaker 4: Right, No, I know, yeah, So Amy introduced it to
Speaker 4: me exactly and I've been a little crazy about it,
Speaker 4: and so that's why I ask of what was your practice?
Speaker 3: So there is a protocol invented by Ingo Swan for
Speaker 3: the government, and this is what they taught the remote
Speaker 3: viewing team in the army.
Speaker 1: Right, this is how they taught them.
Speaker 3: So they Ingo Swan, who is a natural psychic, very gifted,
Speaker 3: was basically instructed to create this training program for army
Speaker 3: and civilian and intelligence agents to learn how to remote
Speaker 3: you to see if they were any good. And so
Speaker 3: he came up with this protocol with like multiple stages,
Speaker 3: like seven stages or whatever.
Speaker 1: He wrote the book Penetration, right, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a very famous artist as well, but he
Speaker 3: was an incredible psychic. And yeah, so through this protocol,
Speaker 3: which is like you know, you start off with like
Speaker 3: an idiogram, which is like a scribble, then you describe
Speaker 3: some things, you go into descriptors, a whole bunch of
Speaker 3: descriptors like texture, size, colors, all these things that you're perceiving,
Speaker 3: and then you go into a drawing and then more
Speaker 3: descriptors and so on and so forth. It's like this
Speaker 3: sort of seven stage thing. I was taught this by Nelson.
Speaker 3: We started doing this daily. He sent me. He sent
Speaker 3: me photos that he would find with give me random
Speaker 3: reference numbers that would write down and.
Speaker 1: Do the sessions. I've logged this.
Speaker 3: I kept logging it and vlogging it, and after a
Speaker 3: while I was like, dude, this is too cool. I
Speaker 3: don't think this will live on my channel. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think I want to start a new channel. Oh. And
Speaker 3: at this point I was so I was so engulfed
Speaker 3: by this project, and I was like, now I want
Speaker 3: to know, Like, because of the results I was getting,
Speaker 3: I wanted to know where was this, who's still doing this,
Speaker 3: who taught this, who's the best at this? Because this
Speaker 3: is real, this is happening. I've done it. You know,
Speaker 3: for anybody who says remote viewing is BS or whatever
Speaker 3: you want to say, dude, the only thing I can
Speaker 3: tell you is is put the working first before you
Speaker 3: say anything, because it's so easy to be a sheet
Speaker 3: and follow what everyone says. And you know, part of
Speaker 3: the reason I started this channel was because I want
Speaker 3: to be boots on the ground and I want to
Speaker 3: do it. I'm not listening to anyone. I'm coming here.
Speaker 3: I'm hanging with you and your father. I'm going you know,
Speaker 3: to meet these psychic spies. I'm going to Monroe Institute
Speaker 3: to try it myself, and I think that's a really
Speaker 3: important thing for more people to do. Don't take my
Speaker 3: word for it.
Speaker 1: Either, you know.
Speaker 3: Anyways, this happens. I ended up reaching out to Joe mcmonagall,
Speaker 3: went to his house in Virginia, spend time with him,
Speaker 3: interviewed him. Major Ed Dames traveled to California, Sacramento to
Speaker 3: meet him cool, spend time with him, spend time with
Speaker 3: a doctor Ed May who is the chief Research physicist
Speaker 3: for SRI the thirty years of the Psychic Project for
Speaker 3: the CIA. You know, so I talked to scientists, I
Speaker 3: talked to taskers, I talked to the remote viewers. I
Speaker 3: talked to Yuri Geller on the documentary as well, like
Speaker 3: I interviewed him. So for me, I was really test. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and then I cut it all together and that was
Speaker 3: my first project for Area fifty two.
Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, and that's how I got started. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of funny to me that you were
Speaker 1: like you almost had this like fracture in your identity,
Speaker 1: like your you know, your your magic and I highly
Speaker 1: highly recommend you guys at home to like check out,
Speaker 1: please plug your magic channel. Yeah, it's my name, It's
Speaker 1: just Chris Ramsey. Yeah, okay, so your Instagram has numbers
Speaker 1: in Yeah, fifty two Chris Ramsey fifty two. Okay, I
Speaker 1: want to make sure I didn't confuse it. Check his channel.
Speaker 1: It's amazing. We were kind of just watching some videos
Speaker 1: last night. You were showing us and You're like, you
Speaker 1: don't have to watch anymore. I'm like, keep it going,
Speaker 1: keep it go. Next and just your your channel is
Speaker 1: so amazing, not both channels. I'll say it's so amazing.
Speaker 1: Not because of your skill, that's fifty percent of it.
Speaker 1: Your your magic is amazing. I mean you do things
Speaker 1: with your hands, with your mind, with your voice that
Speaker 1: I could not fathom. But your content is so amazing
Speaker 1: because like, in my mind, you're a director. You know,
Speaker 1: you have the mind of a director. I'm paying attention
Speaker 1: to you in the last few days that you're here,
Speaker 1: trying to learn from you, you know, and you're showing
Speaker 1: me sketches of your new studio. Meanwhile you're just sitting
Speaker 1: in my humble abode and I'm like, huh, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I could use a secret compartment escape room. No,
Speaker 1: but in all seriousness, you know, like just the craft
Speaker 1: that that you put into this, the attention to detail,
Speaker 1: it's inspiring, it's epic, it's mind blowing, and you guys
Speaker 1: should check it out for sure. But Area fifty two
Speaker 1: an I'm gonna pickle here because I don't want to
Speaker 1: give away some of the goods, but also want to
Speaker 1: talk about why it's so cool.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot going on there,
Speaker 3: you know, from podcasts to investigations. Investigations the main reason
Speaker 3: the channel exists. A podcasts are kind of like to
Speaker 3: hold you off until the next one because these things
Speaker 3: take time. Yeah, you know, on the discord, my people
Speaker 3: help me out, just like your discord. You know that
Speaker 3: We've got a really good base there where people helped
Speaker 3: me out with these investigations and we you know, we're
Speaker 3: I'm currently investigating four things right now. So I got
Speaker 3: four projects that are in different stages of completion, and
Speaker 3: they take time because I have to go places, but
Speaker 3: I also have to learn things. And you know, part
Speaker 3: of that was going to Monroe, right you know, I
Speaker 3: had I had a multiple out of body experiences after
Speaker 3: meeting Joe mcmonagall, which is interesting.
Speaker 1: That's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he told me about them for the first I've
Speaker 3: never heard of these. He told me about them. I
Speaker 3: go home and I spontaneously have two back to back.
Speaker 3: Don't even think about Joe put this together.
Speaker 1: Way after something comes to my mind about that. So
Speaker 1: if you if you really get down into like esotericism
Speaker 1: or you know, you could say like ancient Tibetan Buddhism,
Speaker 1: or just just spiritual spirituality in general, there's there's the
Speaker 1: concept of like the on of the hands of a master. Right.
Speaker 1: You always have this archetype of like the student in
Speaker 1: the teacher, the hermit right, or like the apostles and Jesus.
Speaker 1: You know, he lays his hands and he blesses them
Speaker 1: and they have the ability to go forth and spread
Speaker 1: the gospel and you know, perform miracles. Or you have
Speaker 1: Merlin and Arthur, or you know the kung fu master
Speaker 1: in disciple. There's always this theme throughout history of like,
Speaker 1: you know, a skill is truly transmitted once received from
Speaker 1: a master right, And my mind goes to this, like
Speaker 1: you're studying this, you're studying this, you're studying to this,
Speaker 1: and then you meet the master m hm, And what
Speaker 1: does he tell you? You know, you can you can
Speaker 1: go out of body? Yeah, okay, the power transfer, you know. Interesting.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's a little symbolic, but sure, that's that's where
Speaker 1: my mind goes.
Speaker 3: I definitely like, I mean, there's there's a reason this
Speaker 3: happened to me then and not ten years ago or
Speaker 3: not in three years like, you know, like that I
Speaker 3: think about a lot. The fact that it happened to
Speaker 3: me then was so timely because now you know when
Speaker 3: it happened too. I didn't think anything. I didn't think
Speaker 3: out of body. Yeah, I thought this is just a
Speaker 3: weird like dream, but it wasn't a dream. And I
Speaker 3: didn't really know what to make of it. And I
Speaker 3: heard astral projection being thrown around when I googled it.
Speaker 3: Never out of body was always like astral projection type deal.
Speaker 3: And I was like, that's a little too woo woo
Speaker 3: for me, you know, I really thought that. I was like,
Speaker 3: that's I don't even know, like if that's what I had,
Speaker 3: I think they're just making it up. What I had
Speaker 3: was different than what they had, you know, And this
Speaker 3: is the attitude I had. And then I started learning
Speaker 3: about Bob and Roe about I don't know, it was
Speaker 3: after six months later or something like that, sometime this year.
Speaker 3: And I've never heard of them before other than when
Speaker 3: mentioned by Joe mcmonagall and Ed May. They both mentioned
Speaker 3: because they both did, you know a lot of sleep
Speaker 3: analysis and lucid dream testing with Bob and that type
Speaker 3: of deal. And and I was like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: let me reach out to the Monro Institute. How cool
Speaker 3: would it be if I could document like an entire
Speaker 3: week of me going there?
Speaker 1: Really? Yeah?
Speaker 3: And I hit up Paul and Paul's like, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 3: do you have any programs and if so, would it
Speaker 3: be possible that I can film, you know, one of
Speaker 3: these things? And Paul said, let me get back to you.
Speaker 3: He's like, filming a little touchy, He's like, but just
Speaker 3: because it's other people's privacy and stuff.
Speaker 1: And he got back to me and he said, hey,
Speaker 1: I'll do you one better.
Speaker 3: What if we put together a creator week, like a
Speaker 3: like a creator group. And you know, he's like, I
Speaker 3: think I can get enough creators together to like do
Speaker 3: something like this. Would you be opposed to that or
Speaker 3: would you before that? I'm like, dude, that sounds amazing
Speaker 3: and He's like, yeah, that way everybody can film and everything.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, one and then calls me back.
Speaker 3: I sloughted myself in. I slotted Nelson in as well,
Speaker 3: who didn't actually make it the one that we went to,
Speaker 3: which is another synchronicity in itself. But then but then yeah,
Speaker 3: and then met you there, you know, met Hannah, met
Speaker 3: all the amazing people, you know, Amy Sean, I mean,
Speaker 3: Brad Hakeim, I mean Mark Marco, everybody was Rosa, Lee, Dude, Ignacio, Emily,
Speaker 3: Emily Archie and Maya Yep, yep, the entire group. Now
Speaker 3: I'm sure I'm leaving somebody at We just like name
Speaker 3: dropped everybody and I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Uh we saved the best for last. Yeah.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was incredible, and it was incredible finding
Speaker 3: you guys, Like I really I really feel I really
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, I found my tribe a few
Speaker 3: times in my life, but this time was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I feel like I've met these people before.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, truely the same way. And our rooms
Speaker 1: were beside each other, so like every time going in
Speaker 1: and every time we're going out, it's like, how was it?
Speaker 1: How was it? She on the other side, like a
Speaker 1: week of this, like, well that was crazy, dude. That
Speaker 1: was that was really fun.
Speaker 3: Then we go we went skywatching there, which was for
Speaker 3: me really surreal because I had already read your your
Speaker 3: Father's book. And what's funny is that your Father's book
Speaker 3: only came up because I was falling allowing on TikTok.
Speaker 3: I was already following Sean Webb because he's.
Speaker 1: Brilliant, Yeah, mining happiness, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Checked out great books too, And I was also following
Speaker 3: Jordan Crowder. Oh okay, yeah, just randomly because you know
Speaker 3: it was Talks in the Woods about conscious Love due. Yeah,
Speaker 3: really fun to listen to. And Sean Webb it was like, hey,
Speaker 3: there's this book coming out, like you guys have to
Speaker 3: pick it up, or this book that just came out.
Speaker 3: It was like twenty twenty two, right, three was twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three early, like oh early twenty yeah. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: he goes, yes, book just came out. It's a UFO
Speaker 3: of God whatever. This guy who's been behind more closed
Speaker 3: doors than than you know, people in the government, and
Speaker 3: he's got you know, Josh. I was like, okay, instantly
Speaker 3: get it. I get the audiobook, listen to this mind
Speaker 3: blown and then you know, I start looking up your
Speaker 3: podcast and then I found out you're at the Mono
Speaker 3: Institute and so Sean, Yeah, who suggested the book? And yeah,
Speaker 3: this weird full circle.
Speaker 1: Before and obviously yeah, that's that's really full circle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: really weird. Yeah, when you explain it like that, like
Speaker 1: I'm just hearing the story of someone who has these
Speaker 1: really big dreams in a in a you know, solid
Speaker 1: sense of self and confidence and self worth, and you're
Speaker 1: just like literally manifesting every one of your dreams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like that about it, and every single field that
Speaker 1: you are interested in, you are achieving mastery. Have you
Speaker 1: thought about that? Yeah, I mean i've I haven't. I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't put it that way, but yes I would.
Speaker 1: I just did.
Speaker 3: I I feel and I've always felt this way, and
Speaker 3: I think since I mean since I can remember, I go,
Speaker 3: like even before high school, like.
Speaker 1: I've always felt this way.
Speaker 3: I always felt like the only thing stopping anything from
Speaker 3: happening is me, right, I've always felt that like, yeah,
Speaker 3: there's nothing, there's there was never anything like for me.
Speaker 3: It was always like, Okay, if I can see what
Speaker 3: the end result is, right, if I can really pitch
Speaker 3: that in my head. Then all I have to do
Speaker 3: is reverse engineer it. And that seems easy because when
Speaker 3: you break it down to steps, then it's like, okay, well,
Speaker 3: then all I have to do is do these steps
Speaker 3: and this will take me to where I'm going. Like that,
Speaker 3: It's that simple. It's not more complicated than that. For
Speaker 3: me anyways, it wasn't like oh, you know, do this
Speaker 3: or do that, or like say, you know, say these
Speaker 3: words or whatever like it. It was just as easy
Speaker 3: as okay, let me really picture what this looks like.
Speaker 1: Cool.
Speaker 3: Okay, so let's back it up one step. What's that step?
Speaker 3: And thent's back it up another one, and let's break
Speaker 3: that down and then keep going back right, and now
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well now I know where I have
Speaker 3: to go. Yeah, And so you know, it's like it's
Speaker 3: like going in the dark and you're going up these stairs, right,
Speaker 3: you can't really feel the stairs, right, but you now
Speaker 3: somebody turns a light on upstairs and you're like, oh,
Speaker 3: there it is, and now you've got a direction to go.
Speaker 3: Now you know where you're going, and it's kind of
Speaker 3: shining a light on the.
Speaker 1: Rest of the stairs.
Speaker 3: So you're like, oh, this is just all I have
Speaker 3: to do is do this one step at a time,
Speaker 3: and I.
Speaker 1: See where I'm going. Yeah, so it's not that hard,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 3: And that's kind of how I felt with YouTube, with magic,
Speaker 3: with puzzles, with this stuff, with anything else.
Speaker 1: See, there's another thing that you've just revealed. You're humble.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean I can't accept that compliment.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean that's okay. I'm not going to take
Speaker 1: it back.
Speaker 3: Way too way, too humble to accept that.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you why, man, I'll tell you why. Look,
Speaker 1: this is my show, so I guess you if I want,
Speaker 1: all right, it's because I see someone who I've now
Speaker 1: known for three months, and like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: we've found our tribe, and you know, people sometimes you
Speaker 1: just meet. It's like when I met Alex, Right, I
Speaker 1: met Alex six years ago. Oh look at him, proud
Speaker 1: you changed since this wedding. And we'll get to that
Speaker 1: late another episode.
Speaker 3: He's a softy now yo.
Speaker 1: Yeah dude, yeah, we'll get to that late ware the
Speaker 1: boys here by this, yeah yeah, But what I see
Speaker 1: is someone who oh I'm sorry I was saying that.
Speaker 1: You know, we clicked, like I was telling you like
Speaker 1: when I met Alex, we just clicked. You just meet
Speaker 1: people in life. You have many of them too, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: Like you meet someone and you click and you just
Speaker 1: feel a bond with this person, and you know, you
Speaker 1: just feel like, okay, cool. Even if I didn't see
Speaker 1: you for another five years, if you called me up
Speaker 1: at six years or seven years or whatever, it's like,
Speaker 1: what's up, Let's get together. Nothing change, you know, that's
Speaker 1: just connections. Sometimes people feel and what I feel about
Speaker 1: you from what I've observed. Right, Okay, let's start with magic,
Speaker 1: your first love. I don't know if I'm allowed to
Speaker 1: name some of the things or people that you've told
Speaker 1: me or you know, I'm sure. Okay, Yeah, We're riding
Speaker 1: to Fadeville and you're telling me a story about how you're,
Speaker 1: you know, hanging out with David Copperfield, you know, David Blaine,
Speaker 1: you know, just one of my humble rants. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean it's you know, I'm getting to getting to that.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's good stories.
Speaker 1: It's not I'm getting to I'm getting to that, right, Okay, great,
Speaker 1: So you My point is you have achieved the top
Speaker 1: of your field. Is the way I see it. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you what I see. I see things too,
Speaker 1: you know, I have intuitions too, and I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: telling you what I see and what I feel. You've
Speaker 1: achieved the top of your field. You're show me your video.
Speaker 1: This is my buddy, he's you know, he's really big
Speaker 1: in Japan. Oh cool. So clearly, you know, you're you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're in the top of your field, you know, and
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, let's let's uh, let's get into this
Speaker 1: UFO thing. Look at where you are. Yeah, and all
Speaker 1: the other people you've told me. You know, I've got
Speaker 1: a meeting with so and so and a meeting with
Speaker 1: so and so. I don't want to give away your
Speaker 1: you know, but he's he's in the UFO field. He's
Speaker 1: literally finding himself with all the top players I wanted
Speaker 1: to learn about remote viewing called drum and Monaga whoop,
Speaker 1: walk in the door.
Speaker 3: And it's funny with Joe.
Speaker 1: Actually, are you seeing where I'm going with this? You're you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're reaching the top of your field everywhere. But the
Speaker 1: more I'm sitting with you, I just feel like a
Speaker 1: you know, a gratitude, a humility, Uh, just like, dude,
Speaker 1: you've spent hours and hours and hours the last three
Speaker 1: days just trying to just give me advice and Alex coming,
Speaker 1: I want to talk about this and you know, tell
Speaker 1: you about this editing thing in this and you know
Speaker 1: you're sending me this use this. You know, it's like
Speaker 1: you can easily be like, you know, do the show
Speaker 1: and dip out. But no, dude, you're you're going the
Speaker 1: extra mile to like what I in the sense that
Speaker 1: you're like helping everyone around you.
Speaker 4: Man, nice.
Speaker 3: Coming in here, dude, you got to see this rats
Speaker 3: nest every hey, I mean drop this in post.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got to. It's a work in progress progress.
Speaker 1: It looks great. But this matters. My point is I
Speaker 1: just I wanted to. I wanted to think, you know,
Speaker 1: pay that forward to you because you've you've been so
Speaker 1: nice and so helpful, and so I.
Speaker 3: Feel the same way about you though, So it's it's
Speaker 3: reciprocal and and it's also not for like the thing
Speaker 3: when you said, like when you when you you know,
Speaker 3: find somebody in click and that like there's a there's
Speaker 3: a trust thing, there's a mutual respect thing, and there's
Speaker 3: just a there's a bond there where what I know
Speaker 3: is yours, you know what I mean? Yeah, I feel
Speaker 3: that and I feel that from you too, and so
Speaker 3: I think it's more of that where I'm just like, hey,
Speaker 3: I'm open, I'm an open book. Whatever you need for me,
Speaker 3: you know, you can, you can have. It's not I
Speaker 3: don't gate keep this. I don't you know, and I
Speaker 3: wouldn't gate keep it really for for anyone, but I
Speaker 3: would definitely, you know, I'm definitely willing to share if
Speaker 3: it if I think that it can help you get
Speaker 3: to where you want to be, you know, that is
Speaker 3: that is for sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, I just I just wanted to say that,
Speaker 1: you know, because I I you as somebody who's uh,
Speaker 1: who's who's genuinely on the path, Who's you know, what's
Speaker 1: the path? Knowledge? Truth, yeah, mastery, you know, these are
Speaker 1: all different things that that that I think deep down
Speaker 1: all of us are seeking. And there's some people like
Speaker 1: us who are very sincerely, sincerely and furiously on this path,
Speaker 1: you know, without falter and what we saw together last night,
Speaker 1: the week we experienced together at Monroe, and like, based
Speaker 1: on just what we're talking about and the things that
Speaker 1: you're into, and you know, what I was pretty shocked
Speaker 1: two days ago when you told me and my parents
Speaker 1: that you're you know, you were kind of really looking
Speaker 1: to get into overdrive of the Area fifty two. And
Speaker 1: and my parents are like, what why you know your
Speaker 1: your magic channel is it's so big and so does
Speaker 1: and you know, yeah, but you know this, this is
Speaker 1: what I'm passionate about. So I just I wanted to
Speaker 1: say these things. I wanted to I wanted to tell
Speaker 1: you what I was feeling. But really I want them
Speaker 1: to hear because I want these people to look at
Speaker 1: your channel and and you know, follow along with what
Speaker 1: you're doing and go check out Area fifty two. And
Speaker 1: I appreciate you rather you thank you. It's cinematic, it's
Speaker 1: high art, you know, high as Hannah said earlier, high brow,
Speaker 1: you know, but he's on the path, like he's really
Speaker 1: on the path for truth. And like it's a little
Speaker 1: we're in a little different shoes here where like I've
Speaker 1: been on the inside of the UFO world and you're
Speaker 1: like coming in, yeah, yeah, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, But I mean I appreciate all the knowledge that
Speaker 3: you've you know, imparted as well. And I love you know,
Speaker 3: I love learning. I think you love learning too. This
Speaker 3: is like, this is a really healthy in my opinion,
Speaker 3: this subject is a really healthy thing to learn about. Yeah,
Speaker 3: although you know a lot of people might feel otherwise.
Speaker 3: I think it's really healthy because it, the subject itself
Speaker 3: is forces you to be humble right to it.
Speaker 1: Because you're sincerely on the pat.
Speaker 3: If Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at what the
Speaker 3: nature of this is, just purely, even if you know
Speaker 3: you believe it's like this military weapon or whatever it is, right,
Speaker 3: or if you believe it's like a spiritual thing, or
Speaker 3: regardless of where you are on that scale, I think
Speaker 3: no matter where you are, it puts you in a
Speaker 3: place where you have to humble yourself and start thinking about,
Speaker 3: you know, the gravity of it either way, right, And
Speaker 3: I think that that's healthy. I think it's healthy to
Speaker 3: do that because I think, you know, far too long,
Speaker 3: all of us have have just put ourselves on the
Speaker 3: top of whatever chain it is, and we've been up
Speaker 3: there for too long, I feel, and it's nice to
Speaker 3: know that, you know, we were not at the top,
Speaker 3: you know, on this chain whatever wherever that chain leads.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a real healthy thing for people
Speaker 3: to look into because.
Speaker 1: It does help.
Speaker 3: It does help you put perspective, you know, because now
Speaker 3: you realize once you realize like, you're not like the
Speaker 3: apex of the universe anymore, you know, just that just
Speaker 3: that once you realize that you're not that that you're
Speaker 3: not it, but you are at the same time, but
Speaker 3: you're not like above anything else it really.
Speaker 1: But still no exactly. I always say this.
Speaker 3: I always say when people are like, well, you know,
Speaker 3: you know, nothing matters if we're all equal, and it's like, no,
Speaker 3: we all matter equally. That's the whole point. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: not that nothing matters, is that we're all we all
Speaker 3: matter exactly the same amount.
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why do no harm? Treat your neighbor
Speaker 1: how you want to be treated. You know, we start
Speaker 1: to kind of pick up something there.
Speaker 3: But yeah, but this this subject does have a way
Speaker 3: I think of, but it can be harmful.
Speaker 1: You know you've seen that too.
Speaker 3: You've seen people go off these the weird end of it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: but if you I think, if you take it in
Speaker 3: the proper way and do you do your own research
Speaker 3: and really follow follow the signs, you know that the
Speaker 3: universe is leading you towards I think you'll end up
Speaker 3: in a place that makes you a better person. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and and and also it will show itself to this phenomenon,
Speaker 3: and it will open up doors for you, and it
Speaker 3: will show you like, this is things that I've never
Speaker 3: in my entire skeptic magician's life, would have believed. You know,
Speaker 3: that is true. I was always, you know, of the
Speaker 3: school of you know known no, No, that's you know,
Speaker 3: that's horse crap and that's oizer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, of course.
Speaker 3: And although I still apply that to some things, I
Speaker 3: do now have a more open mind to the phenomenon,
Speaker 3: to what the phenomenon means, and to paying attention to
Speaker 3: the signs that And I hate saying the universe, right,
Speaker 3: but what I mean is, yeah, maybe the universe on
Speaker 3: a quantum level that you're interfacing with because you're a
Speaker 3: part of it, So you're affecting your own self by
Speaker 3: wanting things to happen. As weird as that.
Speaker 1: Sounds, now, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're kind of like, you know, we're Jedi is
Speaker 3: in this reality and we're kind of I'm kind of
Speaker 3: just realizing that. And that's a really cool thing that
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have discovered if I didn't you know, go
Speaker 3: down this this crazy, wild little path.
Speaker 1: It's like morpheous, he's beginning to.
Speaker 3: Believe he's becoming the one. That's what it feels that.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, man, it's like I'm morphous and he's neo.
Speaker 1: Usually I want to be neo, but right now I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm morphous.
Speaker 3: But that's what it feels like.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 3: When you you know, sometimes when you see these synchronicities,
Speaker 3: I'm sure your audience does too. And you know, to
Speaker 3: go to a skeptic and to try and explain this,
Speaker 3: you just sound you sound ludicrous.
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: I know what this sounds like. I've been on that side,
Speaker 3: you know. But the point is I don't need to
Speaker 3: prove it anymore because it's been proven to me, you know.
Speaker 3: And and when things like this happen, people who it's
Speaker 3: happened to understand that, oh yeah, when you're on that
Speaker 3: journey going towards where you're supposed to be or whatever
Speaker 3: that is, things just present themselves to you and they'll
Speaker 3: open up, the sky will open up like it's crazy
Speaker 3: and literally, yeah exactly, and it'll show you synchronicity is that.
Speaker 1: That you just go, oh, I got one today for you. Oh,
Speaker 1: and I pick up my phone at nine thirty three
Speaker 1: as I'm about to show you this. It's just been
Speaker 1: telling you, yeah, but you saw the thirty three, right, Okay,
Speaker 1: I can't confirm. So for days I've been telling you
Speaker 1: like thirty three and uh uh sometimes eleven thirty three
Speaker 1: is my favorite combination of numbers. When I dropped you
Speaker 1: off to get your hair cut, I left the parking
Speaker 1: lot and I went to go get you know, to
Speaker 1: the store, and look at the car that was in
Speaker 1: front of me. I'm not gonna flash the camera. You
Speaker 1: can read the number, but I don't want to read,
Speaker 1: you know, the letters. Yeah, right, for privacy. Look, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: thirty three three three zero zero. I see a lot
Speaker 1: of three threes in things, but it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's it's it's cool, but this is pretty. This is
Speaker 1: literally a numerology. This is literally just thirty three zero zero.
Speaker 3: So I was like, huh, it's like when I when
Speaker 3: I got here the day the day before I got here,
Speaker 3: I texted you, well, no, it was the day that
Speaker 3: I got here. I was driving to the airport and
Speaker 3: I was in back of an suv. Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: and to the right of that SUV is a mac truck.
Speaker 3: The mac truck. The name of the company was Stargate,
Speaker 3: and the car in front of me was a Honda CRV.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: A CRV in remote viewing at Stargate stands for Coordinate
Speaker 3: Remote Viewing. It's what they practiced at Stargate. Crv' that's
Speaker 3: what they call it. So I'm sitting behind Stargate and
Speaker 3: CRV and I'm and I'm driving. I'm trying to like
Speaker 3: snap pictures of these things to send them in the
Speaker 3: group because this is insane, Like that's a crazy.
Speaker 1: Well if that wasn't crazy off, then you land in
Speaker 1: Philly and who's chilling right outside on the the president?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the president, yeah, Biden.
Speaker 1: Biden and I were both doing a layover in Philly. Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 1: There was like a presidential like fleet.
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, three hirks, three like like you know the
Speaker 3: planes that have yeah exactly, and then like three helicopters,
Speaker 3: giant helicopters, like.
Speaker 1: A ton of like cars, yeah, fleet of cars. It
Speaker 1: was him flying through, which is it's funny because it's
Speaker 1: like how often do you see that. Let's raise our
Speaker 1: hand if it's been at least one time once or twice. Yeah, never,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like ever, and it's just crazy.
Speaker 1: You know, you go to the stargate and then you
Speaker 1: see the president, which is you know, it's it's it
Speaker 1: seems irrelevant, but it's still crazy, you know.
Speaker 3: And I was there and that layover, I had a
Speaker 3: forty minute layover. Yeah, and the gate that I was
Speaker 3: at was the same gate that I had to take
Speaker 3: for it was the same plane. I was laid over
Speaker 3: on the same plane, same gate, and it was right
Speaker 3: in front of that gate.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Had it been on the other side that airport and Philly,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have seen that. So I was like right there,
Speaker 3: and I was like, that's kind of cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I.
Speaker 3: Mean there's a lot of things like that when you
Speaker 3: start paying attention to it and all it does, and
Speaker 3: you know, anybody could say, well that doesn't master just
Speaker 3: a coincidence and all this stuff, and like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 3: but all it does is for me, it gives me
Speaker 3: this weird little confirmation that I'm on the right path
Speaker 3: and that attitude shift that happens in my life, right
Speaker 3: because I interpreted this as a sign changes my attitude
Speaker 3: towards my day or my decisions, which then affects the
Speaker 3: rest of my life. You see where I'm going with this.
Speaker 3: So this whole idea of like even manifesting or the
Speaker 3: idea of you know, being on that path or whatever
Speaker 3: is it's all about how you interpret your reality. Because
Speaker 3: if you interpret your we can both be looking at
Speaker 3: the same thing and you could be interpreting something negative
Speaker 3: from it and I could be interpreting something positive from it.
Speaker 3: But we're staring at objectively the same thing, right, This
Speaker 3: thing is objectively what it is, but we're interpreting different realities.
Speaker 3: And because I'm interpreting my reality in a way that
Speaker 3: I'm seeing signs and seeing these synchronicities now making decisions
Speaker 3: based on that that are affecting me positively and giving
Speaker 3: me more reinforcement that this is a thing, and it's
Speaker 3: leading me down this road of new discovery, constant adventure,
Speaker 3: joyous moments, you know, seeing the silver lining this type
Speaker 3: of deal. It's improving my life in every way, from
Speaker 3: physical to mental, to emotional and spiritual every way. And
Speaker 3: so although people will be like, that's a coincidence, you
Speaker 3: can say that's coincidence and you're right, And that's the
Speaker 3: whole thing, you know, if you think it's if you
Speaker 3: think you can or if you think you can't, you're right.
Speaker 1: I wrote down something about the subconscious.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get my journal out here, but that
Speaker 4: kind of touches on the something I like to talk
Speaker 4: about a lot is the more you think you're lucky,
Speaker 4: the luckier you are.
Speaker 3: Of course.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, and we've we've gone down a luck rabbit
Speaker 4: hole many times, and that's my fault. But I just
Speaker 4: love because you're absolutely right in my opinion, and I
Speaker 4: love thinking about it that way.
Speaker 3: It's just an attitude shift, yeah, you know. And and
Speaker 3: if you want to look at that scientifically and be like, well,
Speaker 3: you're just pretending you're positive or whatever, that is, like, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: whatever you say is true, and we'll just leave with that.
Speaker 3: So if you want to say, oh, it's coincidence, you're right.
Speaker 3: But it's one of the Hermetic principles.
Speaker 4: It's like the first Hermetic principles that everything is mental,
Speaker 4: and so if you have a mentally positive attitude, everything's
Speaker 4: going to be positive.
Speaker 1: Correct, Well, it's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and and even uh, you know, even a
Speaker 3: negative where someone else would like you know, you see
Speaker 3: something like, oh, I fell off my bike. Somebody sees
Speaker 3: that as a negative, you know, but somebody in the
Speaker 3: right mind state might be.
Speaker 1: Like, well, this is learning.
Speaker 3: What can you learn from this exactly? And it becomes
Speaker 3: a positive. So it's it's it's not like it's it's
Speaker 3: not like somebody is lucky. It's just that they see
Speaker 3: luck differently, or maybe.
Speaker 1: Don't go down the hill backwards on your bike, say
Speaker 1: a subconscious Right, I'm sorry, I'm struggling with my voice here.
Speaker 1: But you know my backgrounds in psychology, that's my degree,
Speaker 1: and you know, we learn about subconscious and how it
Speaker 1: affects human behavior and things like that, and they understand
Speaker 1: that of our waking life behavior is driven by the subconscious,
Speaker 1: which is profound. Right. That's that's the majority of our thoughts, emotions, desires, choices,
Speaker 1: intentions are informed by this subtle part of our psyche
Speaker 1: that we don't even perceive unless we meditate, right, or
Speaker 1: you know, use psychedelics. But but the point is, okay,
Speaker 1: so I think it has something to do with like
Speaker 1: the subconscious, right where you believe so strongly you're getting
Speaker 1: signs or you're lucky or whatever, and it's beginning to
Speaker 1: now inform your decisions. It's like new he's beginning to believe.
Speaker 1: So someone could say, well, you know, it doesn't work
Speaker 1: like that. It doesn't matter. The subconscious works like that.
Speaker 1: And I wrote on what Joe mcmonaga said when we
Speaker 1: were sitting right beside him, and he said, the ego
Speaker 1: is the bad part of the mind. The subconscious mind
Speaker 1: knows everything. Take my word for it. M mmmm. I
Speaker 1: thought that was powerful.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does know everything, literally everything. Yeah, I often.
Speaker 3: You know, one trip that I'm really like sort of
Speaker 3: like on right now with my brain is you know,
Speaker 3: treating my brain as an organ and not as the
Speaker 3: decision maker. And it is really really crazy how you
Speaker 3: can how you can separate yourself from your physical brain
Speaker 3: and from your heart and from your gut. These things
Speaker 3: will make decisions for you if you let them, because
Speaker 3: they're in survival mode. Your physical body is able to
Speaker 3: survive without your consciousness. It will make decisions based on survival.
Speaker 3: Your brain's going to say, don't go to the dentist
Speaker 3: because it hurts and it's scary, you know, but you
Speaker 3: have to override that, you know, you do. You have
Speaker 3: to be like no, no, it's good and you and you
Speaker 3: and you're you're in conflict with your own brain, Like,
Speaker 3: how can you be in conflict with something if you're
Speaker 3: the thing? No, that must mean there's two things within me, right,
Speaker 3: otherwise I'd always be in agreement with myself.
Speaker 1: There's two wolves within me, of.
Speaker 3: Course, Yeah, and there is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was ironical reference. I'm not sure it's like
Speaker 1: which one do you feed? You know? Yeah?
Speaker 3: But that that is the truth, right, And so what
Speaker 3: does your brain do the second your you know, and
Speaker 3: your brain doesn't think about the lovely car ride on
Speaker 3: the way the dentist, doesn't think about the receptionist who's
Speaker 3: going to be nice and bubbly, and doesn't think about
Speaker 3: the you know, the feeling afterwards of having to clean
Speaker 3: mouth and all that and like that. No, it just
Speaker 3: thinks of the drills and the cavities and the bad things. Right,
Speaker 3: But after you're done, what does your brain do? The
Speaker 3: first thing your brain does, Oh, we should have done
Speaker 3: that a long time ago. Yeah, or you're like, yeah, brain,
Speaker 3: I know. And so you know, when you can realize that,
Speaker 3: you can realize that you can retrain your brain for everything.
Speaker 3: So if you can override your brain, your heart, your
Speaker 3: stomach not saying don't listen, it's information, but they're in
Speaker 3: survival mode. Your heart's not trying to get broken, your
Speaker 3: stomach's not trying to go hungry, and your brain's not
Speaker 3: trying to not trying to change because it's very comfortable
Speaker 3: with this reality if you let your brain control your decisions.
Speaker 3: So the way that I think the brain works, the
Speaker 3: brain creates time. Time does not exist outside your brain.
Speaker 3: Time is non existing outside your brain. Your brain creates
Speaker 3: time so that it knows how to survive. So it says,
Speaker 3: the past exists, let's go back and reevaluate so it
Speaker 3: doesn't happen again. Let's relive these terrible traumas that cringe
Speaker 3: you out. Let's do all this while you're sleeping, while
Speaker 3: you're in bed at night, because we've got nothing else
Speaker 3: to do. So let's relive this just so we don't
Speaker 3: get hurt in the future. And then it goes to
Speaker 3: the future and it says, well, let's relive nine different
Speaker 3: alternate realities that will never happen, just in case they happen,
Speaker 3: you know, so we can prepare and we don't get hurt.
Speaker 3: And like, there's this whole and it's and so what
Speaker 3: is that? So it's time. Without time, fear doesn't exist.
Speaker 3: Fear is solely based in time. Point Yeah, so your
Speaker 3: brain creates time and because of time, it's fear. All
Speaker 3: fear is is time based. It's anticipation, it's regret, it's
Speaker 3: it's all these things that exist in time. How do
Speaker 3: you stop fear? How do you stop time?
Speaker 1: Present? Being the present? Do you know about?
Speaker 3: How do you being the present? You shut your brain
Speaker 3: off and you let your consciousness decide. You get away
Speaker 3: from these organs that are trying to survive, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden, you're not projecting, you're not living in
Speaker 3: the future, You're not fearful anymore. Your decisions are are
Speaker 3: based on you know, your your current situation. And now
Speaker 3: you're in training your brain. You're creating new neural pathways.
Speaker 3: Your decisions are going to be more sound. Your brain's
Speaker 3: actually going to adapt eventually and come back and be like,
Speaker 3: this is the decision we do want to go to
Speaker 3: the dentist because now we're aware it feels good. And
Speaker 3: so you're training that brand to create neu neural pathways
Speaker 3: and effectively using your consciousness to change the way your
Speaker 3: organs behave and that is what will help you, you know,
Speaker 3: grow progress and avoid you know, long stints of depression
Speaker 3: and all this stuff, because you'll be able to just
Speaker 3: override that.
Speaker 1: That's alchemy. Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. Do you know
Speaker 1: about like the saturn myth? No, okay, So Saturn as
Speaker 1: in like the the okay, So think of like Greek deity,
Speaker 1: right yeah, Zeus okay, right, which would be Jupiter. Okay,
Speaker 1: because you know the Greeks, the planets are named after
Speaker 1: like Greek and Roman deities, or maybe the Romans named
Speaker 1: them after the planets. I don't know. We did an
Speaker 1: episode on it recently where we go into that and
Speaker 1: the celestial body episode. But okay, So in the Greek version,
Speaker 1: you have Chronos, yes, time time he is also the Titan,
Speaker 1: he's uh, the father of Zeus. You have the symbolism
Speaker 1: of like the scythe you know that's that. Uh what's
Speaker 1: the word harvest the crops, the time of harvest, you know,
Speaker 1: there's there's it's it's saturn in in in in the
Speaker 1: Roman Saturn okay, which can also be syncretistically linked to
Speaker 1: you could say uh rim Fan or uh Moloch or
Speaker 1: b all in in like the Middle East or in Babylon,
Speaker 1: in these different cultures, there's this common thread that when
Speaker 1: you look at all of these different deities and how
Speaker 1: they are thematically linked this dark and in the link
Speaker 1: to fear, the length of time and in fear. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and if you look in Egypt, they had set right
Speaker 1: the darkness and then the Persians would call him Chaitan,
Speaker 1: which is where Satan comes from. But there's there's always
Speaker 1: this like dark force in these ancient mythologies. Chi Un
Speaker 1: is another name for this force. My point is you
Speaker 1: keep getting this sense. They call you know, the ancient
Speaker 1: of days, father time, the grim Reaper, the sight, all
Speaker 1: of this symbolism around this, this this dark force quote unquote,
Speaker 1: in all these various mythologies, and it's time. It's the
Speaker 1: concept of time is fear, Time is death. Time is
Speaker 1: feared is entirely fear is entirely time based. Fear is
Speaker 1: entirely dependent on and death. We die because of time.
Speaker 1: Everything is finite in the material world except consciousness.
Speaker 3: And our biggest fear is our is our fear of death,
Speaker 3: and that is only available to us if we can
Speaker 3: project in the future. You can't fear death in the present. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's true unless it's iminent.
Speaker 1: But even then you're still projecting or you have a
Speaker 1: phobia or something. You know.
Speaker 3: But but again, what's a phobia? You're like, oh, I hope,
Speaker 3: I don't get it right. You're projecting into the future,
Speaker 3: that's right, creating a good scenario in the future that
Speaker 3: you die due to this scary thing. It's all time based. Fears,
Speaker 3: all time based. Yeah, And so if you can shut
Speaker 3: off the thing that makes time, you shut the thing
Speaker 3: that makes fear.
Speaker 1: That's deep, dude. You have me thinking we were talking
Speaker 1: about this earlier. You have me thinking about interstellar you
Speaker 1: know what retro causality or whatever, where it's like you
Speaker 1: can affect things with decisions at your current perspective of
Speaker 1: the present across the past and future, and like, that's
Speaker 1: really deep. But after going to Monroe, I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: convinced that this is possible. And after hearing your story, Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you want to share or.
Speaker 3: Sure, Yeah, I was. I was a meditation focus fifteen,
Speaker 3: which is no time. I only found this out after.
Speaker 3: I only realized after that I was in a focus fifteen.
Speaker 3: I rarely do focus fifteen. I usually do just stay
Speaker 3: to ten, sometimes twelve, and I perceive myself above my
Speaker 3: well not my car, above a car at night at
Speaker 3: a gas station, warm lighting. It was like humet out
Speaker 3: and I'm kind of above. I'm not out of body.
Speaker 3: It's just like a perception thing. I'm like in a
Speaker 3: corner kind of seeing this, and I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: removed from this scene and I don't really recognize. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what is this? And I'm trying to wonder, like what
Speaker 3: am I looking at? And I see the car door open,
Speaker 3: this during of meditation once again, and I see somebody
Speaker 3: get out and I recognize it's my friend. But this
Speaker 3: is from almost twenty years ago. Him and I went
Speaker 3: into town and we got really drunk and it was
Speaker 3: like three in the morning and he had been drinking,
Speaker 3: I'd been drinking. And we decided, like we're still going
Speaker 3: to drive home, and it was like a forty five
Speaker 3: minute drive and it was completely irresponsible. We get to
Speaker 3: a gas station and see I had a gas up,
Speaker 3: so forty five minutes left to drive. I'm passing out.
Speaker 3: I'm in like the passenger seat in the front and
Speaker 3: I'm kind of like passing out and I'm thinking, man, I.
Speaker 1: Really want to go to sleep.
Speaker 3: I really want to pass out, but I don't want
Speaker 3: leave my buddy hanging because he's driving, and that would
Speaker 3: be you know, I wouldn't be a good friend. I've
Speaker 3: been in that situation plenty of times where it's late
Speaker 3: at night and I'm just going to stay up for
Speaker 3: the driver, you know, and I'd expect the same somebody
Speaker 3: would do that for me. So I'm sitting there, but
Speaker 3: then I get this like feeling. All right, that man,
Speaker 3: When I was a kid, I used to love sleeping
Speaker 3: in the back seat, like curled up like a little
Speaker 3: ball sleep in the back seat.
Speaker 1: It was so fun.
Speaker 3: It was like, oh, that nostalgic feeling is sleeping in
Speaker 3: the back seat. It was really nice. And I remember
Speaker 3: thinking to myself, how nice it would be if I
Speaker 3: was just like that little baby sleeping in the back seat.
Speaker 3: And I was like, you know, I shouldn't, but I
Speaker 3: really like this feeling. Would I just really want it?
Speaker 3: And I told my buddy I got out of the car.
Speaker 3: I was like, Hey, I'm just going to pass out
Speaker 3: the back seat. Are you cool with that? And he's
Speaker 3: like yeah. So I get in the back seat, curl
Speaker 3: up like a little baby, and again against my better judgment,
Speaker 3: I did that knowing that we leave. He ends up
Speaker 3: falling asleep in the wheel and we end up crashing.
Speaker 3: We hit a guardrail on the down the highway and
Speaker 3: there's a guardrail here. We hit the guardrail and we
Speaker 3: kind of like slide into this like grassy area, and
Speaker 3: I'm bouncing around like I have no seatbelt, but I'm
Speaker 3: like completely limp, right, so i don't even get hurt.
Speaker 3: I'm just like bouncing. I had no idea where I
Speaker 3: was when it was happening. I thought I was in
Speaker 3: bed at home, Like it was very weird to wake
Speaker 3: up to right, And I get out and go to
Speaker 3: the side, and I see the engine exactly where I
Speaker 3: was sitting. The engine of the car would have cut
Speaker 3: me in half. It was exactly where I was. It
Speaker 3: took up the whole seat.
Speaker 1: It would have died immediately.
Speaker 3: Oh, there would be nothing left. I would be completely flattened.
Speaker 3: It was like it was insane. Yeah, And I was
Speaker 3: kind of like WHOA, well, good thing I was in
Speaker 3: the back seat, you know, like not really think anything
Speaker 3: of it. So I realized in my meditation this was
Speaker 3: that night I didn't ask for this. I didn't try
Speaker 3: to meditate about this thing. This just I was just
Speaker 3: looking and I was trying to decipher what this was.
Speaker 3: And I saw my friend get out and I realized.
Speaker 1: This was that night.
Speaker 3: So now I'm there and I see the car from
Speaker 3: the top. I don't really see myself, but I know
Speaker 3: I'm in the front seat, and I'm like, okay, this
Speaker 3: is where I get out. And I go in the
Speaker 3: back seat and I'm kind of waiting. My buddy's gassing
Speaker 3: up and I'm waiting, and I'm like, all right, well,
Speaker 3: get in the back seat.
Speaker 1: Let's go waiting.
Speaker 3: All right, Okay, get in the back seat. And then
Speaker 3: I start thinking to myself, oh, okay, maybe I have
Speaker 3: to get in the back seat. You know, nothing's happening.
Speaker 3: And then I go oh, and it dawns on me.
Speaker 3: I start thinking about how comfortable it would be to
Speaker 3: be a little baby sleeping in the back seat, like
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, and I start feeling that
Speaker 3: comfort of passing out in the back seat and being
Speaker 3: so comfortable, and I start sending that to myself, and
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I see the door open and
Speaker 3: I zoom out of this memory. And I get out
Speaker 3: of my meditation. Now, the sci fi rd in me
Speaker 3: is like, wait a second, did.
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 3: Send myself this message in the past to get in
Speaker 3: the back seat and go to sleep. I think, yes,
Speaker 3: I swear to you on everything.
Speaker 1: To this day.
Speaker 3: To this day, I don't know why I got in
Speaker 3: the back seat. I never figured out why, because, like
Speaker 3: I said, and I emphasize this, it goes against my
Speaker 3: better judgment and I would never do that.
Speaker 1: It just popped in your head and you're like, it
Speaker 1: was more than that. It was like this.
Speaker 3: It was overwhelmingly like calm and like, oh, I just
Speaker 3: want that again. And I and that's what made me
Speaker 3: go I would never do that. I would be like, yeah, whatever, No,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna stay here with my friend. And yeah. So
Speaker 3: like when this happened, I was like, get the hell
Speaker 3: out of here. Like the like I said, the sci
Speaker 3: fi nerd in me is like, this.
Speaker 1: Is such a cool story plot. This is so freaking cool.
Speaker 3: Man, And uh, I often wonder now I told you,
Speaker 3: I like, you know, would have been cool to look
Speaker 3: out the window and see an orb or something.
Speaker 1: Well, hey, I mean, let's let's let's do another one.
Speaker 1: So we saw those incredible things at the beach last night,
Speaker 1: and then we're at lunch today and you're just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I just remember my dream. Yes, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was wild. Yeah, what were we talking about dreams? Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were talking about about dreams. We were talking about dreams.
Speaker 3: And it triggered my dream memory. Yeah, and I was,
Speaker 3: I was, I mean, I had a dream it was
Speaker 3: last night and it was like a movie where I
Speaker 3: found it a UFO, a flying saucer. It was hovering
Speaker 3: off the ground. It might have been like twenty feet
Speaker 3: in diameter thirty feet silver disk and I got in
Speaker 3: and I like stole it with my mind and I
Speaker 3: remember like there was like CIA operatives that were like
Speaker 3: looking for me, and I just took off with it. Anyways,
Speaker 3: I ended up coming back releasing. And the reason I
Speaker 3: say it was like a movie because there was like
Speaker 3: letterboxes on both sides during this. I felt like it
Speaker 3: was yeah, you know what I felt like. Have you
Speaker 3: ever seen have you ever seen Flight of the Navigator? Okay,
Speaker 3: Flight of the Navigator is a great classic in the eighties,
Speaker 3: and they actually filmed that at the Kennedy Space Station. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: parts of it where they were they housed a UFO
Speaker 3: there cool, and this ufo was sentient, like it had
Speaker 3: its own AI, and then this kid could interface with
Speaker 3: it psychically.
Speaker 1: It was like a whole thing. It was a cool movie.
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard any videos of my dad talking
Speaker 1: about being inside these things? You know, he's talked to
Speaker 1: me a little bit about them, Yeah, but not yeah, no, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's not the first time I've heard
Speaker 1: that too, you see if I can find your video
Speaker 1: that cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's what I was doing. I was kind
Speaker 3: of like interfacing psychically with it. When I came back,
Speaker 3: it was like the end of the movie and I
Speaker 3: realized that all my close friends were actually aliens and
Speaker 3: they were like turning back into aliens one by one,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh my god. It was like
Speaker 3: this revelatory thing where they were like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you were.
Speaker 3: We were here all along and we needed your help
Speaker 3: and now you're helping us. And it was just like
Speaker 3: that was it. It was super weird. I don't know
Speaker 3: what it was.
Speaker 1: It's obviously symbolic.
Speaker 3: I feel like it was. I feel like there is
Speaker 3: something there, maybe just sub consciously. But it was a
Speaker 3: wild dream it I thought I watched a movie I
Speaker 3: still have now. Like when it triggered, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: these are like movie images.
Speaker 1: It's stills. That's really cool. It's symbolic. I think that
Speaker 1: you received information from what you saw yesterday, so I
Speaker 1: would be honest with you. They give information through the light.
Speaker 1: Some people in ufology might call this inculcation, where it's
Speaker 1: known that when you look at UFOs you receive downloads
Speaker 1: or information. But what we know is that they communicate
Speaker 1: through the light. We know that there are NASA's studies
Speaker 1: that have been shared with us where the sun emits
Speaker 1: a particular green light wave. I'm doing a wave here,
Speaker 1: a green light wave that encodes the information for all life.
Speaker 1: You know, we know that information is transmitted through light,
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that crazy to think that
Speaker 1: these intelligent light beings could just, you know, send information
Speaker 1: through your optic nerves or whatever you want to try
Speaker 1: to justify how they do it. But I'm willing to
Speaker 1: bet that there was some sort of slam packed subconscious
Speaker 1: symbolism in that dream for you to unpack into process
Speaker 1: that will help you going forward. And you know, I
Speaker 1: cannot read your mind. I cannot tell you why something
Speaker 1: is significant to you. Yeah, but the psychoanalysis, you know,
Speaker 1: dream study, psychology in me. You know, if we're looking
Speaker 1: at psychology aspect of this, I take it as you know,
Speaker 1: my theory would be like, maybe because of what you
Speaker 1: saw yesterday and how profound it was, that you now
Speaker 1: have initiated yourself, or rather you have been initiated even
Speaker 1: deeper into level of contact with these beings because before
Speaker 1: it was just you know, it was it was study.
Speaker 1: Now it's experience. Yeah, And my take on that is that,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe it was the beings or the entities
Speaker 1: in a very silly symbolic way, showing you that they
Speaker 1: need help spreading the message that they appear to you,
Speaker 1: not just for you to enjoy on your own. Sure,
Speaker 1: enjoy it, but what are you going to do with it?
Speaker 1: You're gonna share it? Yeah, that's why you got the
Speaker 1: crazy sighting that of all the hundreds maybe you know
Speaker 1: a thousand or more plus people that I've skywatched him
Speaker 1: with in my life, you're definitely as far as the
Speaker 1: intensity of experiences go, you're in like the top three
Speaker 1: now one of the other one obviously not counting my
Speaker 1: crew and my family. I'm talking about people who have
Speaker 1: come to us from around the world. And then I
Speaker 1: have another guy, Tom Barber. He's a very very good
Speaker 1: friend of mine and he's the vocalist of my two
Speaker 1: favorite bands, Chelsea Grin and Darko. He's seen him up
Speaker 1: close with me, and I told him the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, dude, like this is crazy, you know, And
Speaker 1: I see what's happened with him, happening with you. Now,
Speaker 1: if you stay on this path, if you stay on
Speaker 1: the path of truth and trying to with good intentions
Speaker 1: share what you know and with the intention of trying
Speaker 1: to help people understand and pull him along, you're going
Speaker 1: to see the incredible blessings are going to come your way.
Speaker 1: I believe that it's a pattern that we've seen. It's
Speaker 1: a pattern that was told to us by the CIA
Speaker 1: even Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, they do no more than letting onto they yes,
Speaker 3: they do.
Speaker 1: I guess that's the whole overt part of it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't tell us that. They said it a little differently.
Speaker 1: They said that that people with level of contact as
Speaker 1: severe as ours, usually after twelve years experienced like just
Speaker 1: complete wind fall of blessings. Which is funny because twelve
Speaker 1: years for us was twenty nineteen, which was then a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff started rapidly changing for us. But interesting,
Speaker 1: you know, forget the twelve year part. I've seen it
Speaker 1: with my friends around me. Yea. You know that just
Speaker 1: with the intention to share this thing that you know,
Speaker 1: they go to the light and they stay on the
Speaker 1: path of truth and of goodness and just do this
Speaker 1: for the right reasons that the blessings come. And you
Speaker 1: know you've already had a lot of blessings. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it's like, you know what's next?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm down to stay the course
Speaker 3: and you know, keep asking questions and keep being curious,
Speaker 3: but also taking time to reflect and really try and
Speaker 3: digest what this.
Speaker 1: Means for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, you know, you know what it means
Speaker 3: for other people. They'll make their own interpretations and this
Speaker 3: maybe will be a small piece of the puzzle for them.
Speaker 3: But for me, you know, this is my puzzle. This
Speaker 3: is you know, what I'm trying to figure out, and
Speaker 3: I have to I have to sit with that and
Speaker 3: I have to think about what that means for me,
Speaker 3: and I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1: But the puzzle isn't complete without every little piece. And
Speaker 1: if you are just a little piece, in your words,
Speaker 1: not mine. Even if you are just a little piece,
Speaker 1: and someone out there beingcoming aware of you and your
Speaker 1: story and the things that you know, it's still significant.
Speaker 3: I think it's how put off who put it this way.
Speaker 3: But like he describes remote viewing being like this, but
Speaker 3: I kind of see like even this phenomenon being like this,
Speaker 3: where it's like taking a paper, you know, and covering
Speaker 3: a window, and then you take a pen and you
Speaker 3: poke through one hole. You're not sure what you're looking at.
Speaker 3: Maybe it's a little bit of green, a bit of blue,
Speaker 3: you know. So you got to poke another hole somewhere,
Speaker 3: and now you see a little bit more of the picture.
Speaker 3: They're not correlated necessarily, Maybe they are, you don't there's
Speaker 3: another color, so you know, you're not sure, So you
Speaker 3: poke again. And now the more holes that have been poked,
Speaker 3: the more you can piece together the image. Will that
Speaker 3: be a clear image?
Speaker 1: Not all the time?
Speaker 3: Will it be you know, Will you definitively, definitively have
Speaker 3: an answer? Probably not, But will you be closer to
Speaker 3: understanding something, closer than anyone who, closer than you've ever been. Absolutely,
Speaker 3: And with every hole you poke you're going to get
Speaker 3: a clearer picture of what this is, and it's going
Speaker 3: to mean something a little bit more So. I think
Speaker 3: it's just a matter of like, you know, keep poking.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's well said, you know, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I didn't expect the conversation to go in
Speaker 1: some of the ways that it did. Man. And I'm
Speaker 1: really humbled that. Uh, you know, you've you've flew out
Speaker 1: here from Canada and you know, turned down some other
Speaker 1: amazing opportunities to be with us and you know, chat
Speaker 1: on our humble little show. I mean, we're like amazing podcast.
Speaker 1: Well I appreciate that, man.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And it's it's like it's not gonna uh, it's it's
Speaker 1: not gonna go unnoticed by us, like or rather, let
Speaker 1: me say that in a different way. I'm sure I
Speaker 1: can speak for Alex and and me and and maybe
Speaker 1: for Nick that like, it's it's just very humbling to consider,
Speaker 1: like how busy your schedule is, and you know what
Speaker 1: you've got going on, and he's let us in on
Speaker 1: some of the things that he's you know, got going on,
Speaker 1: and there's like a billion different tentacles of things that
Speaker 1: are going on your path. You know, and like you
Speaker 1: took your time out to come here and be with us,
Speaker 1: and it's yeah, but this is part of it for me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this isn't This isn't a side quest.
Speaker 1: This is the main quest stuff. King Arthur, that's that's
Speaker 1: a king Arthur Shap I tell you, man, he's neo
Speaker 1: man like. Well, it's like I feel like MORPHI is
Speaker 1: neo like as far as the phenomenon stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: the contact part, but yeah, or Merlin and Arthur, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good one. And then I feel like in
Speaker 1: other ways it's reversed. And you know, I have so
Speaker 1: much to learn from you as far as like content
Speaker 1: and videography and you know, maybe I could learn a
Speaker 1: trick or too. Now I'm just kidding magic, I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I do have to ask. I'm not going to
Speaker 1: ask you to do some magic. Who maybe maybe maybe
Speaker 1: Petrown will get a trick or too. But you have
Speaker 1: your cards in your pocket, yes, but show them off.
Speaker 1: Can we plug them? Yeah? I mean these ones you
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Speaker 3: I shouldn't check she a little bit that asmr y.
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Speaker 1: noticed recently. I occasionally now I like the swap hats
Speaker 1: on episodes and try to wear like, you know, different things,
Speaker 1: But like lately I've been rocking this hat that says first.
Speaker 1: That's my boy Chris. He hooked me up when we
Speaker 1: got back from in row. We sent each other a
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Speaker 3: I tell you guys, Yeah, these guys got some fire
Speaker 3: merch coming out.
Speaker 1: Oh hey, that's the first they're hearing of this, but
Speaker 1: thank you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's amazing. He's been secretly rocking it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, where did you get that shirt?
Speaker 1: That's it? He's like we made it. It was like,
Speaker 1: good out of here. I've been bugging him about the shirt. No,
Speaker 1: you're going to get one. It's just it's not it's
Speaker 1: it's a sample, you know, like it's we're an R
Speaker 1: and D. It looks good. You will get one. I probably, yeah,
Speaker 1: you'll be the first on the line. Man, appreciate it.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get one in the mill right away. Is
Speaker 1: there anything that you haven't got on your chest or
Speaker 1: off your chest?
Speaker 3: Rather, I mean, we can talk about We've talked about
Speaker 3: whatever you want to talk about. We can talk about
Speaker 3: some of the out of body stuff.
Speaker 1: I was just about to ask that, what's it like
Speaker 1: going out of body? It was insane. It was insane.
Speaker 3: The first I mean, the first two times that happened
Speaker 3: was involuntary, so it was very terrifying. It was still
Speaker 3: scary afterwards, but not as scary because I knew what
Speaker 3: was happening to me. But the first time and second
Speaker 3: time that it happened was back to back, two nights
Speaker 3: in a row, and I documented this. I made a whole,
Speaker 3: you know, video series on what happened to me. But essentially,
Speaker 3: I was out of my body, three feet above my
Speaker 3: bed in a lucid state, turn around and see myself,
Speaker 3: you know, sleeping, and it was the most terrifying thing
Speaker 3: I've ever seen in my life. I would have rather
Speaker 3: seen a monster than see myself and I don't know
Speaker 3: how else to explain that, and people are like, well,
Speaker 3: I wouldn't have been scared. Like, dude, it's like if
Speaker 3: I told you Ryan, turn around and.
Speaker 1: Look at you, I could understand where you're going that went.
Speaker 3: How like if I turn around right now and saw
Speaker 3: me passed out?
Speaker 1: Do you know scary? That's like I'm dead?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 3: Like groundbreaking.
Speaker 1: I didn't understand that at first, but after thinking about it,
Speaker 1: it's like, you know that actually, was that your first thought.
Speaker 3: The dead thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, not that I was dead, but that my soul
Speaker 3: was out of my body. Okay, that maybe it wasn't
Speaker 3: supposed to be.
Speaker 1: That was scary.
Speaker 3: I didn't really jump to the conclusion that I was
Speaker 3: dead because I still felt like I was me. I
Speaker 3: don't know if that makes sense, Like I think, if
Speaker 3: you know that that's that might be actually a misconception
Speaker 3: with people who you know die or whatever, because you
Speaker 3: don't feel like you're dead. Yeah, all parts, all the
Speaker 3: thoughts that I have are still me. I'm still here,
Speaker 3: but I'm my body's there, but I'm still here, so
Speaker 3: I'm not I can't be dead, do you know what
Speaker 3: I mean? Like it's a weird thing to think about.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, the ego is still there, yeah, but the
Speaker 4: physical body is not.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the physical body is down there, and that's scary
Speaker 3: to look at because it's like that thing's dead.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've also never seen anything before, you know, whatever
Speaker 1: that is down there is limp.
Speaker 4: I mean like kind of objectively speaking, the human body
Speaker 4: is weird and like weird to look at. Yeah, and yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: it's it's an interesting.
Speaker 3: And seeing yourself in an unflattering way like that, Like
Speaker 3: right you, Okay, have you ever seen yourself with your
Speaker 3: eyes closed?
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Think about that on a video, not in real life. Right,
Speaker 5: I'm not laughing at you. I'm just like, you're absolutely correct.
Speaker 5: I've never thought about it.
Speaker 3: Like seeing that angle of you with your eyes closed
Speaker 3: a very shocking thing to watch. It's not natural, you know,
Speaker 3: so it scares the living crap out of you. Like
Speaker 3: it's so scary and like made me panic and want
Speaker 3: to get back to my body. And the second time
Speaker 3: it happened, I got back to my body.
Speaker 1: This is very scary things.
Speaker 3: This is my body here and like like you know,
Speaker 3: you're like you feel yourself going into your body, which
Speaker 3: is weird. And I'm like trying to go back to
Speaker 3: my body and I'm coming back down and I go
Speaker 3: into my body and I feel my like nose like
Speaker 3: sync up to my nose and everything. But then I
Speaker 3: start going past my body like four inches. I'm like
Speaker 3: and I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no,
Speaker 3: And I willed myself back up and then I like
Speaker 3: came to But the feeling of going lower was amplified
Speaker 3: my fear tenfold because I'm like, I didn't know you
Speaker 3: can go down and you can go up. I'm like,
Speaker 3: what's down?
Speaker 1: I don't want to go down. Down scary.
Speaker 3: We've always been taught that down is bad. I don't
Speaker 3: want to go down. And it was a very scary,
Speaker 3: like sobering thought. So then fast forward to after I
Speaker 3: come back from TMI.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I uh.
Speaker 3: I had my first experience, which was okay. It was
Speaker 3: during a lucid dream. So I'm rolling out of a
Speaker 3: dream and I'm like, oh wait, this is a dream.
Speaker 1: Oh I can go to body.
Speaker 3: And as soon as I said that, I feel myself
Speaker 3: being thrown hurled whoa like a thousand miles an hour
Speaker 3: complete darkness. But I feel like I'm going and I'm floating,
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, I'm thinking to myself Paris, Paris,
Speaker 3: because Hannah, when she went out of body, stopped Paris.
Speaker 3: And I was panicking and I was like, and I
Speaker 3: say Paris, and like my voice is super low, and
Speaker 3: I'm like the hell And all of a sudden, I
Speaker 3: can't see anything, and like the whole world's spinning around me.
Speaker 3: I feel it spinning. And I tried to open my
Speaker 3: eyes and I had to force my eyes open, like
Speaker 3: force them. And this happened the first time I went
Speaker 3: out of body, because I woke up from a nightmare
Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh oh, I'm in my room, thank goodness.
Speaker 3: And then I went out of body and this is
Speaker 3: what happened to me here. So I'm forcing my eyes
Speaker 3: open and I force open and I see what can
Speaker 3: only be described as these giant, round, edged cubes made
Speaker 3: of stone, like churning within one another like this big
Speaker 3: Tessa act like making noise like a machine. And I'm like,
Speaker 3: oh no, no, no, no, no, don't want to look
Speaker 3: at that. And I look again. It's still there and
Speaker 3: it's still making noise. I wiggle my fingers and I
Speaker 3: slam back in my body. That was like, and now
Speaker 3: I'm thinking, okay, But that was during a lucid dream.
Speaker 3: It felt like the first time I went out of body,
Speaker 3: but it was different. Next day, I'm reading Robert Monroe's book.
Speaker 3: I'm at the exact chapter where he says, don't think
Speaker 3: of a place when you want to go out of body,
Speaker 3: think of a person. If you think of a place,
Speaker 3: it'll be dark.
Speaker 1: That's what Ignacio told me. Yeah, when we were first
Speaker 1: ever trying to go out of body, He's like, think
Speaker 1: of a person, maybe trying to go check on your wife.
Speaker 3: Yes, because if you think out of think of a place,
Speaker 3: it won't work. Now, Hannah, when she did it, had
Speaker 3: a person in Paris.
Speaker 1: Her sister, Yeah, she lives there.
Speaker 3: I don't have anyone in Paris. So I was like Paris, Paris, Paris,
Speaker 3: And that's why I broke the machine. I was like,
Speaker 3: in the middle of this testa act like, oh no,
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to be here. Like it was very terrifying.
Speaker 3: So that's what they made of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm.
Speaker 4: Kind of not really, I'm just really wondering what this means, Like,
Speaker 4: don't go to a place, right.
Speaker 1: Have the intention to go out of your body, go
Speaker 1: to a place. I get it, but.
Speaker 4: I'm spinning out of control thinking what if at one
Speaker 4: point this was Paris or the fact that Paris is
Speaker 4: not a point in time like Paris is and has been.
Speaker 1: That's true, it's not a feeling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you can go to feelings like how
Speaker 3: Paris maybe if you have like a deep person someone
Speaker 3: or I've been there, but but it's not like I
Speaker 3: think a person is. Maybe you know, part of maybe
Speaker 3: we're maybe we're entangled quantumly with other souls rather than locations,
Speaker 3: and maybe we can travel that way.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the
Speaker 1: significance that was.
Speaker 3: But when I the next day, when I read that,
Speaker 3: I was like.
Speaker 1: Oh, damn, Paris Hilton.
Speaker 3: Paris Hilton.
Speaker 1: Yeah, back from two thousand and three, Paris Hilton in
Speaker 1: two thousand and three.
Speaker 3: So anyways, a second time now. This next time was
Speaker 3: cool because I woke up, I had to go to
Speaker 3: the bathroom, but I was like, you know, it's too
Speaker 3: late whatever, It's like four in the morning. I don't
Speaker 3: feel like getting up, but I go, oh, this might
Speaker 3: be a perfect time to go out of body. Because
Speaker 3: I'm like buzzing. I'm in between sleep, you know, but
Speaker 3: I'm lucid. So I was like, okay, let me close
Speaker 3: my eyes. And I close my eyes and I go,
Speaker 3: I deeply desire to leave my body. I deeply desire
Speaker 3: to leave my body. I deeply desire to leave my body.
Speaker 3: And a third time that I say, it's three seconds
Speaker 3: after I close my eyes, I feel myself phasing. And
Speaker 3: I say phasing because it's like a transition.
Speaker 1: Period where you.
Speaker 3: Where your soul, your spirit, whatever you want to call it,
Speaker 3: falls through your physical and you kind of like feel
Speaker 3: it all and because you're in it, you feel it
Speaker 3: everywhere inside and it's like energetic and it's like like this,
Speaker 3: it's like this, it's whatever, this looks like.
Speaker 1: That's what it feels like.
Speaker 3: Kind of like your numb everywhere and you're electric and
Speaker 3: you're buzzing and you're kind of phasing. You ever have
Speaker 3: you ever go you ever fall a sleep on a
Speaker 3: plane and like you jerk away because you thought you
Speaker 3: were falling, Like just imagine you don't jerk away and
Speaker 3: you keep falling. That's what it feels like. So where
Speaker 3: you're going and you just keep going and you keep going,
Speaker 3: and now you're phasing and you're kind of like coming
Speaker 3: out of it. And now you're like, oh, now you're
Speaker 3: in this weird buzzing territory. You're still lucid. I still
Speaker 3: know I'm here. I'm aware that. I just close my
Speaker 3: eyes and I go perfect. Now I'm gonna go to
Speaker 3: a body, and I peel my eyes open again. I
Speaker 3: have to peel my eyes open for some reason, so
Speaker 3: I peel them. I feel them opening like this.
Speaker 1: Now I see my room.
Speaker 3: It's all fuzzy like the first time, it was all
Speaker 3: gray and fuzzy. I'm feeling buzzing. I'm hearing a wooshing sound,
Speaker 3: and I'm lower. I'm in the mattress. Now I'm kind
Speaker 3: of like low. It's a weird respective. So I put
Speaker 3: my hands on the mattress and I push myself up.
Speaker 3: And now I see my body right there, right in
Speaker 3: front of me, and I go, all right, that's enough,
Speaker 3: and I go right back into my body. I wiggle
Speaker 3: my fingers and I wake up. That was my second time,
Speaker 3: so I didn't go very far.
Speaker 1: To one moment. Huh, tell them why you wiggle your fingers? Uh?
Speaker 3: To come back to one to come back to this
Speaker 3: state of consciousness. Yeah, one, one, Yeah, This little movement
Speaker 3: brings me back into my body's like snaps me back in.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: Third time.
Speaker 1: Six.
Speaker 3: It's at five thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1: I wake up.
Speaker 3: Perfect Meditation time. I pop on my monro Institute Meditation,
Speaker 3: my expand app and I hit a sixty minute focus ten.
Speaker 1: Perfect.
Speaker 3: I meditate for an entire sixty minutes without falling asleep.
Speaker 3: Perfect meditation, beautiful, feel good, buzzing. My whole body's buzzing, vibrating.
Speaker 3: I take them off. It's now six thirty five. I
Speaker 3: take them off. I put them down, and I lay down.
Speaker 3: I go I deeply desired to leave my body. I
Speaker 3: deeply desired leave my body. I deeply desire leave my body.
Speaker 3: And on the third time I say it, I start phasing.
Speaker 3: I'm moving in my body. I'm like, all right, awesome,
Speaker 3: it's happening again.
Speaker 1: Can't wait.
Speaker 3: I try peeling my eyes open, But it's six thirty
Speaker 3: in the morning and the sun's coming. I don't have
Speaker 3: any curtains in my room, and the sun is blaring through,
Speaker 3: and I know if I open my eyes right now,
Speaker 3: I'm gonna wake up because that sun will wake me up.
Speaker 3: So I decide to close my eyes. And now I'm like, well,
Speaker 3: how am I going to get out of body if
Speaker 3: I can't see anything? So I remember Rosalie at the
Speaker 3: Monro Institute told me just demand clarity. Yeah, so clarity now.
Speaker 3: So I go with my eyes closed and I go.
Speaker 1: Clardy. Now. I say, my voice is so deep. I
Speaker 1: don't know why.
Speaker 3: My inner voice is like the demon inside me. It
Speaker 3: was like glardy no, and I'm like, oh god, it's terrifying.
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden, I start seeing through my eyelids.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, this is great.
Speaker 1: I get up.
Speaker 3: My body's there. Okay, cool, We're not gonna look at
Speaker 3: that too long. And I moved to the window. Now
Speaker 3: my windows higher in this realm, even though this is
Speaker 3: my room, I see everything clearly. Remember I had just
Speaker 3: closed my eyes ten seconds ago.
Speaker 1: I was wide awake.
Speaker 3: Ten seconds ago, I closed my eyes. This isn't half
Speaker 3: an hour later during a sleep. I just closed my eyes.
Speaker 3: I went like this, and I said, I said the
Speaker 3: thing three times, and now I'm up. Okay, so this
Speaker 3: is right now, this windows higher, and they said that
Speaker 3: for some reason, Bob and Roe said, it's like an
Speaker 3: eighty percent match this other realm for some reason.
Speaker 1: We don't know why. It's higher.
Speaker 3: There's a picture of somebody and there's a rosary hanging
Speaker 3: beside it.
Speaker 1: I don't have a rosary. That's so weird to think about. Man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's the eighty percent match thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a weird detail, it is, and uh makes sense.
Speaker 3: I remember what Archie told me. It's like kind of
Speaker 3: like the upside down.
Speaker 1: I was thinking in stranger things, Yeah, sec upside down, yeah,
Speaker 1: version of reality.
Speaker 3: And I remember looking at my hand. Archie's like, you know,
Speaker 3: he's telling me how he can put his hand through
Speaker 3: the window. And I was like, I'm gonna try it.
Speaker 3: I'm in front of my window and I see his window.
Speaker 3: It's sunny out, and I'm like, I can't wait to
Speaker 3: get out there.
Speaker 1: And I go like this and he goes and I.
Speaker 3: Can't, and I'm like, what the heck. I was like,
Speaker 3: all right, well, I'll just open the old fashion way
Speaker 3: and I open the window and I leap out and
Speaker 3: I'm halfway out and I kind of stop and I
Speaker 3: hear a female voice go, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Oh my god?
Speaker 5: And I.
Speaker 1: Go back in.
Speaker 3: I don't look at where the voice was coming from.
Speaker 3: It was coming from across the room. I don't even
Speaker 3: want to look in that direction of what what said
Speaker 3: that because it was so scary. I see my body,
Speaker 3: I lay back down, I phase back into my body
Speaker 3: of wiggle my fingers.
Speaker 1: It is now six thirty eight. It was three minutes.
Speaker 1: That was the last three minutes. That was in real time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, in real time those three minutes. Wow, And uh
Speaker 3: I was I was lucid the entire time, never once
Speaker 3: I fall asleep.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's amazing, dude. I can't wait to hear what
Speaker 1: happens the next time you go out of body. I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to it, though. Every single time I
Speaker 3: get scared, every single time scared what happen?
Speaker 1: Yeah? That every time you like, just go a little further.
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm good, I'm good exactly, and you're you're
Speaker 1: you know, your survival kids in and you just get
Speaker 1: a little for the next time. I'm good, I've gone
Speaker 1: far though, that's right, you know. So you're literally playing
Speaker 1: out what they said. What happened. It's amazing. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's remarkable.
Speaker 3: And I'm getting a lot of people in the comments
Speaker 3: also saying this is so validing for me because that's
Speaker 3: what happened to me, and like they're saying the same
Speaker 3: things I said.
Speaker 1: It happened to Bob and Rowe what the hell is
Speaker 1: looking down in his body's freaked out?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it's a real thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I totally believe it, dude. The first time I
Speaker 1: went out of body. See, that's the thing is like
Speaker 1: when I go out of body, Uh, it's not like
Speaker 1: it all. I don't, you know, exist in my room
Speaker 1: looking at myself laying there and look around and choose
Speaker 1: where I want to go. I just go to the
Speaker 1: craziest places and it's like DMT and I'm just shown
Speaker 1: things that I feel like I'm supposed to be seen.
Speaker 3: So that was kind of like my Focus fifteen one. Yeah,
Speaker 3: where I was like at that gas station and then
Speaker 3: choose I gotta have control over where No, I didn't
Speaker 3: have a control. I was just shown this thing and
Speaker 3: I was like, what is this?
Speaker 1: I did one time when we were at Monroe, and
Speaker 1: I think it was it was either Focus twelve or
Speaker 1: Focus fifteen. There was one time where I could manipulate
Speaker 1: where I was going and it was like super fast
Speaker 1: and it was like I was flying like Superman and
Speaker 1: then I was running like the Flash and it's kind
Speaker 1: of freaky, but that sounds cool. Yeah, I'd like to
Speaker 1: do that.
Speaker 3: If I could just get my hand through the window,
Speaker 3: that would start.
Speaker 1: You will just so disappointing. I'm like, this is supposed
Speaker 1: to be It's supposed to be my I don't know.
Speaker 3: My alternate universe is supposed to be able to do
Speaker 3: anything here near grounded stu. Yeah, and then it's like
Speaker 3: what are you doing? Like this sound was like so
Speaker 3: stern and so like it's almost like what do you
Speaker 3: think you're doing?
Speaker 1: Like that was the tone. I was like, what are
Speaker 1: you doing? And I was like stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was like I don't know, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: a voice. I didn't recognize the voice. I have no
Speaker 3: idea who whose voice that was.
Speaker 1: And it was very uh yeah, it was very scary.
Speaker 1: I have to ask, why do you tend to prefer
Speaker 1: to meditate to focus ten of all the other.
Speaker 3: Focus ten is the out of body meditation. That's the
Speaker 3: one that's best tuned for out of body the really
Speaker 3: yeah mind to wake body of sleep.
Speaker 1: Wow, I never thought about it like that. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: the one that makes sense.
Speaker 3: That's the one that But I mean, you can get
Speaker 3: out of body with anything. Well, actually I never actually
Speaker 3: got out of body during a Focus.
Speaker 1: Ten, right, because we did intro and Focus twelve. But
Speaker 1: it's always after.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would always do the meditation, take off the headset,
Speaker 3: then get out of body. It was never during the
Speaker 3: HEMI sync interesting, yeah, never once.
Speaker 1: My favorite is twelve. I just I find that I'm
Speaker 1: drawn to it, the concept of expanded awareness. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a good feeling twelve. Yeah, it is. I find
Speaker 1: that when I'm making contact with the beings. And I
Speaker 1: can't believe I just said that. That's something I've never
Speaker 1: said before. I always talk about it in terms of
Speaker 1: Dad making contact. But yeah, sometimes I guess I make
Speaker 1: contact and post Monroe, I just go in to Focus
Speaker 1: twelve and I start sending myself up there.
Speaker 3: And you said you did that at the beach last night.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then the weird thing appeared that maybe it
Speaker 1: was government craft, maybe it was something else. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but it was really weird because yeah, I was, I
Speaker 1: was in Focus twelve and I just had these feelings
Speaker 1: and we're seeing things throughout the night. So when we
Speaker 1: were at Monroe together, I went home for one week.
Speaker 1: I mean, we were all home, but I was home
Speaker 1: for one week, and then the following week after that,
Speaker 1: I went to Germany. While I was in Germany, and
Speaker 1: obviously this was my first time getting to try this
Speaker 1: because I had just got back from Monroe and now
Speaker 1: I'm in Germany, it's like, I'm still processing this thing.
Speaker 1: I spent the whole Europe trip processing it, you know.
Speaker 1: And there was one night that I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna try going on to Focus twelve. And I'm sitting
Speaker 1: on the patio at my wife's uncle's apartment and I'm
Speaker 1: sitting there meditating, and I go into Focus twelve and
Speaker 1: I start doing like how it was at Monroe, sending
Speaker 1: myself up to the sky and just inviting their presence
Speaker 1: and trying to make contact with my thoughts. And I
Speaker 1: swear to you, dude, I opened my eyes. Boom, it
Speaker 1: was there, like open my eyes or so. I started
Speaker 1: to notice that sensation, what sensation occurs within me when
Speaker 1: I get into this state in the boom right there there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that feeling. Yeah, that's cool. I think we can
Speaker 1: all do this. My dad taught me this but I
Speaker 1: just find.
Speaker 3: What's happened to where he had to run out of
Speaker 3: the house and yeah, be like they're here.
Speaker 1: Like every time, Like that's how it works. And he's
Speaker 1: always taught me about this feeling and that it's possible.
Speaker 1: But after going to Monroe, I finally learned how to
Speaker 1: access this state of mind.
Speaker 5: M M.
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. I think we all have
Speaker 1: this ability, but it's just a certain focus level. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a state, it's a it's a it's a mental state,
Speaker 1: and I feel like I've kind of finally learned how
Speaker 1: to get there thanks to the Monroe Institute. We gotta
Speaker 1: go back, well yeah, I think I think we will.
Speaker 1: I think so, let's put it that way. But so
Speaker 1: I got to ask you this then, So in what
Speaker 1: way you could be as broad or specific as you like,
Speaker 1: but in what way has the Monroe Institute changed your
Speaker 1: life in a major way.
Speaker 3: It's definitely taught me that I am more than my
Speaker 3: physical body, and I think that's the one thing they
Speaker 3: wanted to teach me, and it's the one thing that
Speaker 3: I now believe is true. That is again my personal
Speaker 3: assessment of my own journey. I encourage everyone to do
Speaker 3: their own research. Do not take my word for it.
Speaker 3: I'm not here to preach and I'm not here to
Speaker 3: tell you what is what. For me, I believe that
Speaker 3: I am more than my own physical body because I've
Speaker 3: seen my physical body from a perspective that I was
Speaker 3: that made me very uncomfortable. And once you see that,
Speaker 3: and that's the one thing that you realize, you can't
Speaker 3: go back.
Speaker 1: You can't go back. Once you see that, you can't
Speaker 1: go back. This is coming from.
Speaker 3: Someone you know who not a guy, not a guy
Speaker 3: into anything other than you know, the objective reality that
Speaker 3: is shown to us, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's usually me.
Speaker 3: And after all this journey that I'm going through, I'm
Speaker 3: realizing now that like there's much more.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you have to humble yourself, like you were
Speaker 1: saying earlier, you have to humble yourself and understand there's
Speaker 1: just sometimes things that are above our you know, understanding that.
Speaker 1: Amazing man. Thank you for joining us, Thank you for
Speaker 1: coming all the way out from I'll just say Montreal,
Speaker 1: Yes that's okay, and just spending an incredible few days
Speaker 1: with us, and I I want to come to Canada.
Speaker 1: You're gonna come. I will come to. Yes, I would
Speaker 1: love that. I would love to take it towards your
Speaker 1: studio and what what do you do you want to
Speaker 1: come to baby? Yeah, I would love that, man, I
Speaker 1: would love BSS does Canada, BSS goes to uh see
Speaker 1: Chris Ramsey, you know. And it's just I'm humbled to
Speaker 1: be your friend. Man. I'm glad that we were neighbors
Speaker 1: at Monroe. I'm glad that you were really from my experience,
Speaker 1: you were like a very pivotal part of that. Because
Speaker 1: I was on the phone with my dad on the
Speaker 1: drive to Monroe saying, Dad, I have a secret plan.
Speaker 1: I want to get there and I want to SkyWatch.
Speaker 1: I want to bring it up later in the week,
Speaker 1: let people warm up to it, and then I want
Speaker 1: everybody to see one good time. I want the staff
Speaker 1: to see, I want everybody to see. And then I
Speaker 1: get there and immediately you walk right up, playing it
Speaker 1: in my hand. H. I'm Chris, nice to meet you. Uh,
Speaker 1: you have a really cool podcast. I've read your dad's book.
Speaker 1: That's super awesome. Man, I'm glad to meet you. And
Speaker 1: you just completely disarmed me. And then right away you
Speaker 1: were like, let's SkyWatch tonight. And it like forced me
Speaker 1: to adjust course. Like if it wasn't for you and
Speaker 1: your intentions and what like the outcome that you sort
Speaker 1: of forced, like, it might not have ever been the
Speaker 1: same for me. So I'm grateful for that, man, and
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for you. Thank you. Grateful for you too, Yeah.
Speaker 4: Thank you. I'm grateful for y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm grateful for Nick. I hate that he had to
Speaker 1: miss it, but yeah, you know, but it's okay, man,
Speaker 1: it's get his rest and he's he's he's bummed about it.
Speaker 1: I'm bummed about it, but you know, he can't help
Speaker 1: being sick. So we're thinking of Nick. Sending our thoughts
Speaker 1: at the neck, Yeah, sending our thoughts and yeah, any
Speaker 1: last words, anything you want to get off your chest.
Speaker 1: You're good, I'm good, feeling good. I'm feeling great. You
Speaker 1: know how we end it? How do we end it
Speaker 1: with the bgs? We say bye guys at the same
Speaker 1: time to the camera. Ready, Yeah, I'm ready, ready, one, two, three,
Speaker 1: Bye guys.
Speaker 4: Weird things happen in the backyard of Bletsoe house or shit.
Speaker 1: Got so weird coming clutch to like smiling on the
Speaker 1: inside of it. No one knows
Speaker 2: W discome I ever done, sord, nothing him