WEBVTT 1 00:00:05.519 --> 00:00:06.639 Weird Things happened in. 2 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:25.399 Weird, Weird, Weird. 3 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:29.640 Welcome to episode one sixty nine. I've lets have said, so, 4 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:33.759 we have a special, very special guest today, Chris Ramsey. 5 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:38.320 That's me. Yeah, that was it. That was the bring in. 6 00:00:38.880 --> 00:00:41.200 So yeah, I don't even know where to again. Dude, 7 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:45.799 this is like, it's crazy that you're even here. Wow, Like, 8 00:00:46.679 --> 00:00:49.840 there's so much to cover. So we were at Monroe together. 9 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:53.600 If you've heard the three part series, I talked about Chris, 10 00:00:53.640 --> 00:00:56.399 I talked about Hannah, who's also with us. Maybe we'll 11 00:00:56.399 --> 00:00:59.880 get around to recording with her later, but in the meantime, 12 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:02.880 we are going to I think, if you are right 13 00:01:02.880 --> 00:01:04.760 with it, we should just debrief what happened last night. 14 00:01:05.439 --> 00:01:07.840 Yeah, I think we could start with that. That's probably 15 00:01:07.840 --> 00:01:09.760 a good way to start it. Yeah you want to 16 00:01:09.799 --> 00:01:12.079 go ahead and well off. 17 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:18.879 Yeah, why not? So okay, So Chris, he basically is 18 00:01:18.920 --> 00:01:23.480 like flying in and it's in the middle of a 19 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:29.120 tropical storm, right, So I'm sitting there all day sweating like, ooh, 20 00:01:29.159 --> 00:01:30.680 I don't know. I don't know if we're going to 21 00:01:30.760 --> 00:01:32.959 make the drive. I'm telling Jenny, like, we're probably gonna 22 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:35.079 do it in the morning. Maybe for a day trip, 23 00:01:35.519 --> 00:01:37.400 and I go to pick him up and then it's like, 24 00:01:39.159 --> 00:01:42.200 you know, I see you face to face, and I 25 00:01:42.319 --> 00:01:45.359 just I just immediately felt like, God, I can't disappoint you, dude, 26 00:01:45.840 --> 00:01:48.879 Like I know, I'm switching perspectives here now I'm telling you. 27 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.560 I was telling them, Yeah, you know, I see you 28 00:01:51.599 --> 00:01:53.239 face to face, and I'm like, dude, I just I 29 00:01:53.239 --> 00:01:54.040 can't disappoint you. 30 00:01:54.079 --> 00:01:54.200 Man. 31 00:01:54.239 --> 00:01:55.519 I want to take you to meet my dad. We've 32 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.200 been talking about this for months. So we're like, let's go, 33 00:01:58.439 --> 00:01:59.959 you know, right when we get in the car. Yeah, 34 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:02.040 So we get back to the house, you know, we 35 00:02:02.079 --> 00:02:03.760 settle in a little bit and we make the drive 36 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:06.519 and we can go into that if you want the 37 00:02:06.599 --> 00:02:08.800 dad story, but I just wanted to preface that, Like 38 00:02:09.080 --> 00:02:11.199 we drive all the way through a tropical storm, you know, 39 00:02:11.439 --> 00:02:14.759 waters flooding the roads and everything. We get there, I'm 40 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:17.159 hoping we're gonna SkyWatch. It's going to be epic, and 41 00:02:17.240 --> 00:02:20.599 then you know, we don't see anything because it's raining. Yep. 42 00:02:21.000 --> 00:02:23.719 So canople go into any of that before we move 43 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:24.599 on like what it was. 44 00:02:24.520 --> 00:02:27.759 Like, I mean, we could save it. We could probably 45 00:02:27.759 --> 00:02:30.919 save that, or we can the dad like, yeah, yeah, well, 46 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:34.479 no meetingum I think was I mean outstanding. We stayed 47 00:02:34.520 --> 00:02:37.800 up till three in the morning talking and just going 48 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:40.680 through stuff like that's the thing. It's like, I didn't 49 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:43.280 come for the orbs, Like that's not why I wanted 50 00:02:43.319 --> 00:02:44.520 to meet, and that's not why I wanted to come 51 00:02:44.560 --> 00:02:47.240 hang out. You know, it's a nice bonus if we 52 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:49.039 get to do something like that, but I just I 53 00:02:49.080 --> 00:02:50.879 was happy just to hang out honestly and just have 54 00:02:51.000 --> 00:02:55.039 like amazing conversations, which we had mind blowing conversations, a 55 00:02:55.080 --> 00:02:57.919 lot of laughs as well. Yeah, got to perform magic, 56 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:00.759 you know for your parents, and. 57 00:03:00.479 --> 00:03:02.919 My mom was like, I need a heart pill? Is 58 00:03:02.919 --> 00:03:05.280 it real? Is it real? You're like, you know, pulling 59 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:05.879 your finger off. 60 00:03:05.960 --> 00:03:09.439 Yeah, it was better than that, all right, I'm kidding. 61 00:03:09.599 --> 00:03:11.400 Was it was literally just me pulling my finger off. 62 00:03:11.400 --> 00:03:14.840 Mine looks like something else, but you know, anyway, So 63 00:03:14.960 --> 00:03:17.039 I felt really bad, you know, because a lot of 64 00:03:17.080 --> 00:03:19.400 people fly from all around or you know, make up 65 00:03:19.479 --> 00:03:21.520 long drive like recently someone hopped in the car and 66 00:03:21.599 --> 00:03:23.479 drove twenty hours from Texas and they just knocked on 67 00:03:23.520 --> 00:03:25.719 the door and you know that whoa. Yeah, So like 68 00:03:25.719 --> 00:03:27.759 when people come out and there's like bad weather and 69 00:03:27.800 --> 00:03:30.120 we don't get to SkyWatch. I really, I feel terrible. 70 00:03:30.520 --> 00:03:31.560 So I was like, dang, you know. 71 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:33.599 I didn't even think of it, to be honest, like 72 00:03:33.639 --> 00:03:36.840 the entire time I've never I know, you were like, oh, 73 00:03:36.960 --> 00:03:39.000 is it still cloudy? And so I was just like, yeah, 74 00:03:39.159 --> 00:03:41.479 it doesn't matter. Like I was so happy to just 75 00:03:42.039 --> 00:03:45.039 be there and chat. And you know, I've I've had 76 00:03:45.039 --> 00:03:49.800 my own experiences yeah with this phenomenon, and so I 77 00:03:49.840 --> 00:03:54.000 don't need any more validation that something is occurring. I'm 78 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:56.800 pretty pretty confident that I, you know, I have a 79 00:03:56.840 --> 00:03:59.120 grasp on my own reality and what. 80 00:03:58.960 --> 00:04:00.400 It is I saw. 81 00:04:00.840 --> 00:04:04.800 But I was interested in in hearing, you know, your 82 00:04:04.879 --> 00:04:07.680 dad's perspective of it and your perspective of it, and 83 00:04:08.039 --> 00:04:11.280 sort of just being among your family dynamic was really 84 00:04:11.319 --> 00:04:13.759 nice as well, seeing how close you guys are, and 85 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:17.439 you know, it was It was truly I think I 86 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:19.519 said this earlier in the day, but it felt familiar 87 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:22.920 being there. I didn't feel like an outcast whatsoever. I 88 00:04:22.959 --> 00:04:25.319 didn't feel weird. There was no moments of awkwardness. It 89 00:04:25.360 --> 00:04:28.279 was like I felt like I was home with family. Yeah, 90 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:29.639 the second I. 91 00:04:29.560 --> 00:04:32.000 Got there, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, it was amazing. 92 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:33.800 And then we got to hang out, we got to chat, 93 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:37.079 and the next day we had Hakem come down. We 94 00:04:37.160 --> 00:04:38.879 got to hang with him a bit. I got to 95 00:04:38.879 --> 00:04:41.959 film with your father, which was cool. And then we 96 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:45.120 headed back and you know, Ryan, I was like, you 97 00:04:45.160 --> 00:04:47.439 know what, the sky might clear up tonight. We might 98 00:04:47.480 --> 00:04:50.319 be able to get some sky watching in. I was like, yeah, 99 00:04:50.319 --> 00:04:53.360 if it does, it does, And sure enough sky cleared up. 100 00:04:53.959 --> 00:04:55.279 We ended up going down to the beach. 101 00:04:55.959 --> 00:04:59.839 Yeah, so we decided, you know, earlier in the day 102 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:03.040 that we're gonna go to the beach at that evening 103 00:05:03.040 --> 00:05:06.759 because it's Casey's birthday. You know, they know who Casey is. 104 00:05:06.920 --> 00:05:09.240 You know, it's been on the show a few times, 105 00:05:09.279 --> 00:05:12.399 and she's our artist, you know, Nick's wife. By the way, 106 00:05:12.439 --> 00:05:14.839 she probably mentioned that Nick is sick tonight, so unfortunately 107 00:05:14.879 --> 00:05:16.160 he can't be here, you. 108 00:05:16.120 --> 00:05:18.639 Know, shut out Nick. Yeah, we got to hang out 109 00:05:18.720 --> 00:05:22.240 last night. At least we got to SkyWatch together, but 110 00:05:22.439 --> 00:05:25.920 he came down with something, so yeah, unfortunately, yeah. 111 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:29.399 And he's greatly missed. So anyway, so yesterday was Casey's birthday, 112 00:05:29.439 --> 00:05:31.040 so we kind of had this plan going like we're 113 00:05:31.040 --> 00:05:32.680 gonna be at the beach at night, and you know, 114 00:05:32.720 --> 00:05:36.360 we decided we're gonna go whether turn out being perfect, 115 00:05:36.639 --> 00:05:41.000 So you know, me, you, Genny, and Hannah are gonna go, 116 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.120 you know, basically drive to meet them later after they're 117 00:05:44.120 --> 00:05:46.519 getting at the beach and in the car, I'm briefing 118 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.959 you guys. I'm like, look, there may or may not 119 00:05:49.000 --> 00:05:51.480 be someone here tonight who hasn't seen things yet. So 120 00:05:51.600 --> 00:05:55.720 let's start really setting our intention right, Let's start getting 121 00:05:55.759 --> 00:05:58.079 into that headspace, sending our thoughts to the sky. When 122 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:00.600 we get there, and I think, like the inner energy 123 00:06:00.800 --> 00:06:03.759 of our group will, you know, make something happen. And 124 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:05.399 I have a good feeling about it, basically, I mean 125 00:06:05.439 --> 00:06:08.759 I said it a little differently. So then we make 126 00:06:08.800 --> 00:06:10.600 the twenty minute drive to the beach, We get there, 127 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.480 we start to walk on the sand, and what happened. 128 00:06:14.199 --> 00:06:18.920 Literally instantly we look up and there was like activity, 129 00:06:20.399 --> 00:06:23.680 just all sorts of activity like you know every when 130 00:06:23.720 --> 00:06:26.079 you're skywatching you might see these things just kind of 131 00:06:26.120 --> 00:06:28.319 like streak over the sky. But it was more than that. 132 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:34.720 There was some of them that were glowing, pulsating, getting brighter, 133 00:06:35.680 --> 00:06:40.399 moving faster, moving slower like change in speed flashes. I 134 00:06:40.439 --> 00:06:42.639 saw these incredible flashes. 135 00:06:42.279 --> 00:06:44.079 Kept saying Kodak, Yeah, I was like a. 136 00:06:44.040 --> 00:06:47.000 Camera flash in the sky that kept like. I was like, 137 00:06:47.120 --> 00:06:50.199 the heck, you know, where's that coming from? And then 138 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:52.079 we're doing we're doing this. 139 00:06:52.120 --> 00:06:52.959 We just got there. 140 00:06:53.279 --> 00:06:57.519 I would say estimate ten to fifteen minutes, and we're 141 00:06:57.560 --> 00:07:00.360 already buzzing. We're like cool, this has happened, and this 142 00:07:00.519 --> 00:07:02.240 is so cool, so much activity already. 143 00:07:02.279 --> 00:07:03.600 Maybe you're like vlogging everybody. 144 00:07:03.680 --> 00:07:05.920 I'm vlogging because I'm like in such a great mood. 145 00:07:06.079 --> 00:07:12.160 And then all of a sudden, you like, we filmed this, 146 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:15.439 and you know this will be released eventually, this video. 147 00:07:15.560 --> 00:07:18.600 But I was filming myself and you can see my 148 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:24.439 face completely change and the utter, like, I mean we 149 00:07:24.519 --> 00:07:30.319 saw something, yeah over the ocean, no exaggeration, no exaggeration. 150 00:07:32.079 --> 00:07:38.120 It was like that big yeah, right out in the ocean, 151 00:07:38.199 --> 00:07:40.279 that big. So the moon is like this big. This 152 00:07:40.319 --> 00:07:41.480 thing was like this big right. 153 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.920 Moon is full like from perspective, you know. 154 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:46.079 Yeah, it was huge, and it was like a row 155 00:07:46.240 --> 00:07:50.160 of like I don't know, eight to ten lights, just 156 00:07:50.199 --> 00:07:54.160 a row of these orange fiery lights. 157 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:55.079 Yeah, and. 158 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:57.959 And they just all appear at the same time. It's 159 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:02.519 kind of like, what like this right just materialized? Yeah, 160 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.839 you just hear somebody go, oh my god, what is that? 161 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:06.480 What do I think it was Casey or it was Nick. 162 00:08:06.519 --> 00:08:08.600 They're like, what is that? What is that? 163 00:08:08.800 --> 00:08:09.560 You just see my face? 164 00:08:09.600 --> 00:08:12.240 Goat you were in the middle of a vlog, yeah, because. 165 00:08:12.000 --> 00:08:13.920 I was like, oh, we just saw some flashes whatnot. 166 00:08:13.920 --> 00:08:15.959 And then I just go I turn in my face. 167 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:19.240 You see my face? It's mind blowing what I'm looking at. 168 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.000 And I turned the camera and I got the tail 169 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:21.279 end of it. 170 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:23.560 Yeah, as it's fading out. As it's fading out, But 171 00:08:23.920 --> 00:08:26.759 something something that happened was I just I want to 172 00:08:26.759 --> 00:08:28.639 stress what he was saying when he says it's that big, 173 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:30.920 because is it all my Can they see this? When 174 00:08:30.959 --> 00:08:34.200 he says it was that big? We were talking about 175 00:08:34.200 --> 00:08:37.200 this about two hours ago. And it's like perspective, right, 176 00:08:37.320 --> 00:08:39.000 you look at the moon and it's about an inch, 177 00:08:39.159 --> 00:08:40.759 Like if you hold your finger up or a ruler, 178 00:08:40.799 --> 00:08:43.080 it's like, oh, this is about an inch. It's obviously 179 00:08:43.120 --> 00:08:45.240 way bigger than that, but from your perspective, if you 180 00:08:45.279 --> 00:08:47.559 scale it down, that's that's about how much of your 181 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.440 vision that it covers with the sky. This thing was 182 00:08:50.480 --> 00:08:53.360 bigger than that. Imagine the implications of this. It was 183 00:08:53.519 --> 00:08:56.759 super massive, dude, what we were looking at. It was crazy. 184 00:08:56.799 --> 00:08:59.600 It was enormous. It was long. If you know, if 185 00:08:59.639 --> 00:09:01.440 you had a ruler to the horizon, that thing was 186 00:09:01.440 --> 00:09:04.320 two or three inches and yes, my voice is going out, 187 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:06.679 moving on, but if you hold a ruler up to 188 00:09:06.679 --> 00:09:09.200 the horizon, it was super long. And something that you 189 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:11.639 forgot to mention was that when it was about to 190 00:09:11.639 --> 00:09:16.200 fade out, it did a wave. These these lights they 191 00:09:16.320 --> 00:09:19.600 like they went out in a wave and then it 192 00:09:19.639 --> 00:09:21.799 faded out. We were screaming. 193 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:25.120 It was insane. It was an insane thing to witness. 194 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:26.879 And then as soon as it was done, we see 195 00:09:26.879 --> 00:09:31.120 this couple running down the beach and we're asking, did 196 00:09:31.120 --> 00:09:33.519 you see that? Did you see that? And they're like, yeah, 197 00:09:33.840 --> 00:09:36.399 we called the police, the coast guard. They called the 198 00:09:36.399 --> 00:09:39.600 coast guard, yeah, because they're like, something's happening out there. 199 00:09:39.759 --> 00:09:41.960 They're like, maybe it was flares, and I'm like, no, 200 00:09:41.960 --> 00:09:45.240 nobody shoot someone's drowning. Nobody shoots up ten flares at 201 00:09:45.240 --> 00:09:49.080 the same time that are like like just sitting there. 202 00:09:49.480 --> 00:09:52.360 I've called the Coastguard about a flare, and that was 203 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.240 very different than what y'all are describing. 204 00:09:54.360 --> 00:09:57.000 Yeah, this didn't go up and down either. It was 205 00:09:57.039 --> 00:09:59.840 like it materialized. It was there. It was like waw, 206 00:10:00.279 --> 00:10:01.600 and all of a sudden, we're all looking like what 207 00:10:01.679 --> 00:10:03.440 is that? And then it just kind of like went away. 208 00:10:03.720 --> 00:10:07.159 Imagine ten orbs side by side, like like stacked like 209 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:10.120 almost like a snake. It wasn't a snake, but the shape, 210 00:10:10.120 --> 00:10:12.799 the way it like waved and they flashed out. Dude, 211 00:10:12.960 --> 00:10:14.679 Chris was shaking and I was just looking at you. 212 00:10:14.759 --> 00:10:16.759 My heart was being so fast. You were shaking. You 213 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:18.200 were like, look at me. You were recording your shop, 214 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:19.200 Look at me. I'm shaking. 215 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.360 And there's no boats that have that sort of light. 216 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:24.120 Pattern either, right, Yeah, you. 217 00:10:24.159 --> 00:10:25.519 Know this was just for the listener. 218 00:10:25.600 --> 00:10:25.799 Yeah. 219 00:10:25.799 --> 00:10:29.799 This was way over the so in terms of like 220 00:10:29.879 --> 00:10:31.440 inches if this thing is like that, this was like 221 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:33.759 five inches over the water, like from a distance, and. 222 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:37.039 It was out. It was way out in the sea. Yeah, 223 00:10:37.360 --> 00:10:39.320 it was. It was. It was incredible. Did you show 224 00:10:39.360 --> 00:10:42.919 him the footage? No, I wanted to save it for now. 225 00:10:43.080 --> 00:10:44.320 If you want to show him now. 226 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:47.559 Well I can show you the second one. So the 227 00:10:47.600 --> 00:10:51.639 thing is, we see this couple, they're like panicking. They're like, yeah, 228 00:10:51.679 --> 00:10:52.840 we call the coast guard. We don't know what to 229 00:10:52.879 --> 00:10:56.039 make of that. We're saying, like, well, maybe it was 230 00:10:56.039 --> 00:11:00.440 something else, you know, maybe it's something else. And as 231 00:11:00.440 --> 00:11:05.879 we're talking about this, the girl that there's a guy 232 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:08.399 and a girl, and the girl starts opening up about 233 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:12.159 something that happened to her father in nineteen sixty eight 234 00:11:12.240 --> 00:11:15.519 on the same beach and that these orbs went overhead 235 00:11:16.480 --> 00:11:18.519 and he was partying with his friends, and his friends 236 00:11:18.639 --> 00:11:21.279 him and his friends woke up like hours later blacked 237 00:11:21.279 --> 00:11:24.519 out after these orbs came direct Three orbs came directly 238 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:27.000 over her head, and then he had like something in 239 00:11:27.000 --> 00:11:28.120 the back of his knee or whatever. 240 00:11:28.159 --> 00:11:30.200 She was swearing by this, and she was completely thoughts 241 00:11:30.200 --> 00:11:30.399 on me. 242 00:11:30.879 --> 00:11:33.080 The dude was drunk. Oh, she was sober. 243 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:36.000 Yeah, he was. He was very he was drunk. Yeah, 244 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:38.440 he was having a good time. But she was pretty lucid, 245 00:11:38.480 --> 00:11:41.200 and she was pretty excited to talk about it with us. 246 00:11:41.200 --> 00:11:43.200 I don't know if you Yeah, she opened up like 247 00:11:43.679 --> 00:11:45.320 even he didn't know about it, I wanted to talk 248 00:11:45.320 --> 00:11:47.000 about it, you know. Yep. 249 00:11:47.559 --> 00:11:50.919 And then and then as we're talking, and we're still 250 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:52.559 buzzing and talking about all this. 251 00:11:53.080 --> 00:11:55.879 Another one appears. Well first we saw okay, so this 252 00:11:55.960 --> 00:11:58.600 is the way that I kind of so we saw 253 00:11:58.639 --> 00:12:01.399 the big one first. They come running up to us 254 00:12:01.679 --> 00:12:03.399 and they're like, oh my god, did y'all see that? 255 00:12:04.519 --> 00:12:07.759 And they start saying it's flares. It's flares, right, And 256 00:12:08.480 --> 00:12:12.519 we see some like ordinary looking I mean I say ordinary. 257 00:12:12.519 --> 00:12:14.480 None of this is ordinary, but like regular orbs that 258 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:17.039 we see thousands of thousands. We see a few of 259 00:12:17.039 --> 00:12:21.960 those regular christ is filming kind, yeah, the ordinary kind, 260 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:24.919 and Chris is filming. He's like talking to them. It 261 00:12:24.960 --> 00:12:26.799 was dude, it was really some Channel five stuff like 262 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:30.799 you wait to easy the footage. It's hilarious. And he's 263 00:12:30.840 --> 00:12:32.919 filming them and he's asking them questions and they're just 264 00:12:32.960 --> 00:12:35.039 like going along with his questions, and they're they're kind 265 00:12:35.039 --> 00:12:38.399 of like kind of enjoying talking to us, you know. Yeah, 266 00:12:38.720 --> 00:12:40.840 And we see some regular orbs and they're like, well 267 00:12:40.879 --> 00:12:42.279 this was flaires. So I was like, well, what do 268 00:12:42.320 --> 00:12:43.919 you think about that one? What do you think about 269 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:45.759 that one? Who was like, well, maybe that's a satellite 270 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:47.720 and or maybe it was an airplane. I was like, 271 00:12:48.039 --> 00:12:51.200 I don't know, too high to be an airplane, and 272 00:12:51.279 --> 00:12:54.360 you know, she starts telling us the story that he shared, 273 00:12:54.440 --> 00:12:59.279 you know, and while they were next to us, another 274 00:12:59.440 --> 00:13:02.679 one of the super massive orange things appears, but instead 275 00:13:02.679 --> 00:13:04.600 of this time it being eight to ten lights. 276 00:13:05.120 --> 00:13:07.480 It's like two yeah, and then it goes down to one. 277 00:13:07.840 --> 00:13:11.159 Yeah, And I recorded the indios kind of yeah, I'll 278 00:13:11.159 --> 00:13:19.080 show this toon Okay, Alayer, this is crazy. 279 00:13:18.960 --> 00:13:20.600 We have not a player who we could drop this 280 00:13:20.639 --> 00:13:25.440 footage in the post that saying no, there's a craft out. 281 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:27.240 Yeah, we can do it in post. Yeah, we can 282 00:13:27.279 --> 00:13:30.000 overlay it in this That's the UFO just saw two 283 00:13:30.080 --> 00:13:36.200 of them. Look as crazy as that video is. That's 284 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:37.279 the second one. 285 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:38.720 Yeah, the first one was. 286 00:13:39.039 --> 00:13:43.240 The first one was astronomically more mind blowing in insane 287 00:13:43.360 --> 00:13:45.240 and and and like the only one who had a 288 00:13:45.279 --> 00:13:47.480 camera out on it was Chris. But the problem is 289 00:13:47.720 --> 00:13:49.720 he had the Osmo camera, which is like the swivel 290 00:13:49.720 --> 00:13:52.120 gyroscope camera. It's not like he could just turn his 291 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.120 camera around like I had a specific you know, swivel 292 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:57.120 function then yeah, zoom and it locks in. It's not 293 00:13:57.200 --> 00:13:59.600 like for that I caught in the tail of it. 294 00:14:00.120 --> 00:14:04.679 Put that in. Yeah please right, yeah, and so yeah, 295 00:14:04.679 --> 00:14:07.080 so his OZMA was on his face and he was 296 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.240 talking about an ORB. He was seeing the first one, right, 297 00:14:09.519 --> 00:14:12.279 And then as it appears, I'm sitting there stunned. My 298 00:14:12.600 --> 00:14:15.200 hands are in my pocket. I'm like, dude, I can't, 299 00:14:15.240 --> 00:14:19.320 I can't think it was well, I wasn't scared. I 300 00:14:19.360 --> 00:14:22.320 was amazed, and I was I mean, I'm pretty used 301 00:14:22.360 --> 00:14:24.000 to it, like this stuff doesn't scare me anymore, but 302 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:27.360 it was so shocking, and like what I say is Eldridge, 303 00:14:27.519 --> 00:14:29.759 I was like, oh my god, I couldn't believe what 304 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:31.720 was running through my head. Was I am so glad 305 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:34.360 that Chris and Hannah are seeing this. That was what 306 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:37.240 was running through my mind. This is destiny. It was 307 00:14:37.279 --> 00:14:38.720 meant to be that you guys would come here and 308 00:14:38.720 --> 00:14:40.240 that you would see this. I knew, without a shadow 309 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:42.799 of a doubt that something very amazing was happening. That 310 00:14:42.919 --> 00:14:45.519 you guys were receiving a blessing from this, obviously all 311 00:14:45.559 --> 00:14:48.480 of us, but particularly you guys, because you know, if 312 00:14:48.519 --> 00:14:50.960 me and my crew saw that, and it was just 313 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:53.519 us we always see stuff, it wouldn't really been a 314 00:14:53.519 --> 00:14:56.639 big deal. But you guys were here with us to 315 00:14:56.679 --> 00:14:59.399 share this with us. Yeah, so anyway, so. 316 00:14:59.360 --> 00:15:01.639 Yeah, it was super special, dude, it was man, and 317 00:15:01.679 --> 00:15:03.360 we saw other things that night. We saw a ton 318 00:15:03.399 --> 00:15:07.000 of things like streaks and all sorts of whiles. 319 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:10.159 Oh yeah, we'll save the streak for the end the finale. Yeah, right, 320 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:11.919 So to wrap up the dude, I have to get 321 00:15:11.960 --> 00:15:13.879 to this point because it's the most important point of 322 00:15:13.919 --> 00:15:17.879 the night. So he sees a couple of orbs, and 323 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:20.759 then the other one, the video you just watched, the 324 00:15:20.759 --> 00:15:22.440 second one pops up and they're seeing it with us 325 00:15:22.440 --> 00:15:26.240 and they're like, oh my god, you know, and they 326 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:28.600 start to kind of be open to the idea that 327 00:15:28.679 --> 00:15:31.519 maybe it's something else, right, maybe it's not a flair. 328 00:15:31.600 --> 00:15:34.240 They like, couldn't explain it. And he, you know, we 329 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:37.759 start going into the story about her dad from nineteen 330 00:15:37.799 --> 00:15:39.720 sixty eight and you know, this isn't a coincidence, and 331 00:15:39.759 --> 00:15:42.039 she was all, oh my god, I've always believed she 332 00:15:42.039 --> 00:15:44.120 had never even told her husband, right, yeah, it was 333 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.200 her first time ever telling her husband. And then the 334 00:15:46.279 --> 00:15:49.600 husband said, well that he said, well that might be 335 00:15:49.639 --> 00:15:52.360 my cue to leave. I'm not trying to get sucked up. 336 00:15:55.600 --> 00:15:58.399 So you can buy the not trying to get sucked up. 337 00:15:58.440 --> 00:16:01.799 T shirts, let's have said so website. 338 00:16:01.919 --> 00:16:03.840 No, I'm trying to get sucked up, just trying to 339 00:16:03.840 --> 00:16:05.960 get sucked up. I'm trying to get sucked up. 340 00:16:06.200 --> 00:16:08.559 Just just a drunk eye on a beach yelling. 341 00:16:09.080 --> 00:16:14.080 Get sucked up. He said, I better leave. That was 342 00:16:14.159 --> 00:16:14.759 so funny. 343 00:16:14.840 --> 00:16:16.399 It was very funny. But you can tell he was 344 00:16:16.440 --> 00:16:20.240 a little scared. Oh yeah, you know, trying to get 345 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:23.639 sucked You trying to get sucked up, dude. He definitely 346 00:16:23.639 --> 00:16:24.679 not trying to get sucked up. 347 00:16:25.039 --> 00:16:27.360 Yes, it was. It was magical, man, and I was 348 00:16:27.399 --> 00:16:30.720 so glad to share that with you guys, and you know, 349 00:16:31.320 --> 00:16:33.240 it was it was just very mind blowing. And then 350 00:16:33.240 --> 00:16:35.120 the finale that I was saying, let's save it for 351 00:16:35.200 --> 00:16:38.639 a second, Okay, So maybe an hour or an hour 352 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:40.240 and a half goes by and we're all just kind 353 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:42.519 of laying there and enjoying the vibe. We're all mind 354 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:44.919 blown over that, right, So we didn't see anything for 355 00:16:44.960 --> 00:16:48.120 a while, and then you and Hannah were like, it's 356 00:16:48.120 --> 00:16:50.039 been a while, yeah, and you were like, yeah, you 357 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:55.799 know what I think you said. Christina always says, what 358 00:16:55.840 --> 00:16:57.960 did you say? Do you remember what you said. 359 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:02.279 Kind of the fact that like we're all so basically 360 00:17:02.480 --> 00:17:04.960 when we got there, we had this buzzing energy. We 361 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.279 had this like we want to see something energy, and 362 00:17:07.319 --> 00:17:09.599 the whole group we were with wanted to see something, 363 00:17:09.680 --> 00:17:11.720 and it kind of was just happening instantly, and all 364 00:17:11.720 --> 00:17:13.519 these things were popping off and it was kind of cool. 365 00:17:14.119 --> 00:17:17.599 And then as we did that, we're all kind of 366 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.880 on this coming down from this crazy high, and now 367 00:17:20.920 --> 00:17:23.119 we're all sort of chatting and having our own little 368 00:17:23.160 --> 00:17:25.440 conversations and like we're distracted. 369 00:17:25.519 --> 00:17:27.880 We're like, we're not trying. 370 00:17:27.599 --> 00:17:31.839 To make anything happen, right, and so we just kept 371 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:34.759 glancing up momentarily to see but nothing was really going 372 00:17:34.759 --> 00:17:37.559 on anymore. Literally, it stopped for like an hour at least, 373 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:42.240 it literally stopped like as like I swear, in like 374 00:17:42.279 --> 00:17:45.200 fifteen minutes we saw so much activity and then nothing 375 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:48.599 like literally nothing, not one little thing for the longest time. 376 00:17:49.440 --> 00:17:55.799 And then we started talking about the Sphinx. Oh yeah, yeah, 377 00:17:55.799 --> 00:17:56.960 and the star, well. 378 00:17:56.839 --> 00:17:58.720 You brought it up though I brought it up before 379 00:17:58.759 --> 00:18:02.079 we talked about the Sphinx in this are you said, well, 380 00:18:02.640 --> 00:18:05.640 let's refocus our intentions. That's right, and Hannah was like, yeah, 381 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:08.319 one more time, one more time, and we were like, yeah, yeah, 382 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.920 let's do that. Let's think of our thoughts together on 383 00:18:10.960 --> 00:18:12.440 this guy. And I kind of made the joke to 384 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:14.359 you guys, like my dad always says, let's cut the 385 00:18:14.359 --> 00:18:17.119 football chat. Does ever we were addressing this, like, let's 386 00:18:17.119 --> 00:18:20.279 put our thoughts in our and our intentions together, and 387 00:18:20.319 --> 00:18:22.519 you were like, look in this spot and let's see 388 00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:24.640 if we can get it to appear one more time. Okay, 389 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:27.680 So you set that intention. Then we start talking about 390 00:18:27.680 --> 00:18:28.119 the sphinx. 391 00:18:28.240 --> 00:18:28.880 Yeah. 392 00:18:29.000 --> 00:18:32.759 Hannah's like, what about the sphinx? And you said, oh, 393 00:18:32.839 --> 00:18:35.799 it's it's what Chrissinia told me, right, the alignment thing, 394 00:18:36.640 --> 00:18:38.799 like Ryan tell her about the alignment. So I start 395 00:18:38.880 --> 00:18:40.599 saying the alignment and then what happened. 396 00:18:40.640 --> 00:18:42.720 And the second you the second you were done, like 397 00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:46.440 your sentence, this giant streak goes right over our heads 398 00:18:46.519 --> 00:18:48.200 and it was it was under the clouds. It was 399 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:51.559 like way under the clouds, like and it was just 400 00:18:51.559 --> 00:18:54.880 like this streak. It was like like thicker than a 401 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:57.160 shooting star. I don't know how to really describe it, 402 00:18:57.240 --> 00:19:00.599 but yeah, it was pretty freaking cool. Kind of scared me. 403 00:19:00.599 --> 00:19:03.559 I was like it was right there. Yeah, and after that, 404 00:19:03.880 --> 00:19:05.119 after that it was pretty much done. 405 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:07.440 That was like and then Jenny saw one more. I 406 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:09.079 didn't see it. I was looking at you guys. 407 00:19:09.119 --> 00:19:10.400 Oh no, I saw that one too. Yeah, there was 408 00:19:10.400 --> 00:19:11.839 a tiny one that might have been a shooting story 409 00:19:11.880 --> 00:19:13.400 to be honest. That was like way up high, but 410 00:19:13.480 --> 00:19:16.720 who knows, who knows. But the other one it like 411 00:19:16.759 --> 00:19:17.599 the clouds were out. 412 00:19:17.680 --> 00:19:21.480 So yeah, the into our magical night. 413 00:19:21.799 --> 00:19:24.440 And and if you want to, if you want to 414 00:19:24.519 --> 00:19:26.799 check out the full story, well you're just gonna have 415 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:29.519 to wait till I cut all this together, after I 416 00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:31.640 after I pull my hair out for a month editing 417 00:19:31.640 --> 00:19:32.480 all this footage. 418 00:19:32.799 --> 00:19:34.960 Yeah, on on channel by the way. 419 00:19:34.920 --> 00:19:37.839 Area fifty two, Yeah, fifty two investigations. 420 00:19:37.920 --> 00:19:41.079 Let's get into it. Yeah, okay, what do you want 421 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:46.799 to get into? Well, okay, so you're a very very 422 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:52.160 prominent accomplished magician. I thank you. Yeah, And you know, 423 00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:55.000 I'm just I'm just saying it like it is. You know, 424 00:19:55.079 --> 00:19:58.599 like you have an amazing magic channel, you know on YouTube, 425 00:19:58.680 --> 00:20:02.079 Chris Ramsey is this channel, and you've done very well. 426 00:20:02.279 --> 00:20:05.640 You have now, or rather I have had the amazing 427 00:20:05.680 --> 00:20:09.200 opportunity to see you perform magic many many times in person, 428 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:11.720 and you know, we've only been friends for three months now, 429 00:20:11.759 --> 00:20:14.079 so I went from not knowing about you and what 430 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:16.400 you do to like kind of being in your circle 431 00:20:16.480 --> 00:20:18.759 and like be like, whoa, this is sick. My friend's 432 00:20:18.759 --> 00:20:22.279 a magician and you know, so like anyway, where I'm 433 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:25.519 going with this is I'm now coming to understand spending 434 00:20:25.559 --> 00:20:27.119 the last few days with you outside him in a 435 00:20:27.200 --> 00:20:29.279 row and you know, really getting into this stuff, and 436 00:20:29.559 --> 00:20:31.359 we're getting ready to do the pod and you know, 437 00:20:31.400 --> 00:20:33.359 we did some filming for your channel, and now I'm 438 00:20:33.400 --> 00:20:36.359 coming to understand that you're you're at this point where 439 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:40.559 you're ready to get into something new. Yeah, is that 440 00:20:40.599 --> 00:20:42.839 okay for me to say? Absolutely, You're you're ready to 441 00:20:42.880 --> 00:20:45.480 go deeper and kind of like start from the ground 442 00:20:45.559 --> 00:20:48.400 up with this new passion of yours. So you know, 443 00:20:48.599 --> 00:20:50.599 sure we could talk magic, but I really want to 444 00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:52.759 start with Area fifty two. Yeah, doubt that, you know 445 00:20:52.799 --> 00:20:55.119 if you want to go with like why you're kind 446 00:20:55.119 --> 00:20:57.640 of where you're at, where you want to your passion? 447 00:20:57.680 --> 00:20:59.319 Why you want to get into area fifty two? What 448 00:20:59.400 --> 00:21:01.160 is Area fifty too? Yeah? 449 00:21:01.359 --> 00:21:05.519 So this is yeah, this is a new venture it's 450 00:21:05.559 --> 00:21:07.319 a bit of play on words, you know, fifty two 451 00:21:07.319 --> 00:21:09.160 to fifty two cards in a deck type deal. 452 00:21:09.319 --> 00:21:14.559 So that's yeah, that's the that's the reason. Yeah, you know. 453 00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:17.039 So it's kind of like it ties into you know, 454 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:21.480 what I did and who I am. You know, I 455 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:25.920 love magic. I always have Puzzles are cool too, but 456 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.799 magic is like my my first love in terms of 457 00:21:29.839 --> 00:21:32.599 like all this stuff, right, and it's led me down 458 00:21:32.680 --> 00:21:35.319 so many great paths. But the reason I got into 459 00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:40.519 magic in the first place was the love for the unknown, right. 460 00:21:40.799 --> 00:21:44.759 I've always been fascinated. I remember being kid watching Unsolved 461 00:21:44.799 --> 00:21:48.000 Mysteries and I remember, you know, the host being like, 462 00:21:48.400 --> 00:21:50.519 this is based on a true story, you know, and 463 00:21:50.559 --> 00:21:53.440 like and they're talking about you know, UFOs and all 464 00:21:53.519 --> 00:21:56.759 this stuff and like spontaneous combustion and all sorts of 465 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:58.720 like wild stuff, and I'm like, what do you mean 466 00:21:58.720 --> 00:22:01.839 this is based on a true story. My my sort 467 00:22:01.839 --> 00:22:06.319 of impressionable brain as a young man was like, wait, 468 00:22:07.000 --> 00:22:10.680 an adult's telling me this is real. So this is real, right? 469 00:22:11.240 --> 00:22:13.960 And so I always had that. I was always inclined 470 00:22:14.160 --> 00:22:18.400 to the paranormal and. 471 00:22:16.440 --> 00:22:18.759 The extra the mystery. 472 00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.920 Yeah, exactly, exactly everything that everything that you sort of 473 00:22:23.000 --> 00:22:27.200 is encompassed by that, and it led me to you know, 474 00:22:27.319 --> 00:22:30.880 see people like Uri Geller bending spoons and stopping watches 475 00:22:30.920 --> 00:22:33.400 and whatnot and so on and so forth, and these 476 00:22:33.440 --> 00:22:36.759 psychic abilities, and you know, as a young man, I'm like, dang, 477 00:22:37.960 --> 00:22:40.079 I want to do that. That's like a superpower. I 478 00:22:40.079 --> 00:22:41.839 want a superpower. I want to be able to do 479 00:22:42.319 --> 00:22:46.920 supernatural things. And you know, so pursuing magic was a 480 00:22:47.039 --> 00:22:48.960 natural way to get there. And then, you know, come 481 00:22:49.000 --> 00:22:52.000 to find out it's trickery and it's light of hand 482 00:22:52.039 --> 00:22:56.039 and misdirection and showmanship and suggestion and all these remarkable 483 00:22:56.599 --> 00:23:03.960 psychological you know, tool and not disappointed. I'm very happy 484 00:23:04.039 --> 00:23:06.960 by that because I'm like, now I get to I 485 00:23:07.000 --> 00:23:09.000 get to learn something. I get to apply what I've 486 00:23:09.079 --> 00:23:12.599 learned and create this beautiful art and give people these 487 00:23:12.599 --> 00:23:18.200 special moments and all that. But then, you know, this 488 00:23:18.240 --> 00:23:20.759 thing kind of stays with me, this love for the unknown. 489 00:23:20.759 --> 00:23:22.720 And now I know magic, I know what it is, 490 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:26.279 but I still don't know what all this other stuff is. 491 00:23:26.559 --> 00:23:28.960 And it hasn't brought me any closer to that, really, right, 492 00:23:29.680 --> 00:23:34.799 And I've always always been fascinated with you know, just 493 00:23:35.720 --> 00:23:39.000 ets or like the the idea of consciousness or the 494 00:23:39.079 --> 00:23:43.480 idea of like all these fantastic things that I think 495 00:23:43.559 --> 00:23:46.279 none of people are talking about. You know, they're really important. 496 00:23:46.319 --> 00:23:49.400 They're probably the most important things ever, you know, in 497 00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.440 terms of they're almost as important as dinosaurs. I feel like, 498 00:23:53.279 --> 00:23:57.039 you know, yeah, I would say more as well. Yeah, 499 00:23:57.079 --> 00:23:58.480 but you know what I mean, like these are things 500 00:23:58.519 --> 00:24:00.759 that people are just not talking enough about. Yeah, you know, 501 00:24:00.839 --> 00:24:04.839 we're so we're so sort of saturated with so much 502 00:24:04.839 --> 00:24:07.359 information that we kind of like, well whatever, but I'm like, no, 503 00:24:07.480 --> 00:24:10.640 this is amazing. And so I've always had a punchant 504 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:16.240 towards this stuff. And I had kind of I had 505 00:24:16.319 --> 00:24:18.240 multiple but I had some burnouts, you know, on the 506 00:24:18.240 --> 00:24:24.160 YouTube channel doing this day and day out feeding the machine, 507 00:24:24.559 --> 00:24:27.960 you know, these employees, and I had certain amount of 508 00:24:28.119 --> 00:24:30.640 content I had to dish out in order to pay 509 00:24:30.680 --> 00:24:33.039 bills and keep the lights on. Right, So it becomes 510 00:24:33.039 --> 00:24:38.039 this like what started as this joyous fun, you know, 511 00:24:38.279 --> 00:24:42.839 celebration of my own creativity, which eventually paid for itself 512 00:24:42.880 --> 00:24:45.000 and more, and that was so much fun. Now it 513 00:24:45.079 --> 00:24:48.480 was like, well as things are, as the numbers are 514 00:24:48.480 --> 00:24:51.160 sort of declining, well then I have to pick up 515 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:54.519 the pace and then oh no, we can't catch up anymore. 516 00:24:54.599 --> 00:24:56.599 And now it's just this thing I don't want to do. 517 00:24:57.240 --> 00:25:00.319 Now it's like, oh, well, where where the go? 518 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:00.599 Right? 519 00:25:00.640 --> 00:25:02.680 Because now it's all about the shiny things, it's all 520 00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:04.839 about paying bills and it's all about that stuff. And 521 00:25:04.880 --> 00:25:07.680 I'm like, that's no fun. And I find myself having 522 00:25:07.839 --> 00:25:09.119 so much fun performing magic. 523 00:25:09.160 --> 00:25:11.720 By the way, Yeah, I picked up on that. 524 00:25:11.640 --> 00:25:15.079 Even if I don't film it and upload it and 525 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.079 edit it right. And so it's not like my passion 526 00:25:18.119 --> 00:25:22.480 for magic went away. It's my passion for wanting to 527 00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:24.240 create content out of it constantly. 528 00:25:24.440 --> 00:25:27.680 That sort of died down, I understand. Yeah. 529 00:25:27.720 --> 00:25:32.279 And then what happened was my friend Nelson Dallas, who 530 00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.599 you know, Shout out Nelson, Shout out Nelson. He's a 531 00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.599 five time US Memory champion. Yes, I reached out to him. 532 00:25:37.720 --> 00:25:41.200 Incredible guy, he's incredible incredible memories. Actually, at the end 533 00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.799 of the month he'll be competing for a six time 534 00:25:43.880 --> 00:25:45.359 championship in Orlando. 535 00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:48.319 Let's hope Nelson Dallas wins. Send him vibes, yes, and 536 00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:52.960 I absolutely will be calling him at some point hopefully 537 00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:54.359 this year, to try to get him on the show 538 00:25:54.400 --> 00:25:56.720 and he'll hardly do it. Yeah, well we talked about it. 539 00:25:56.920 --> 00:26:00.720 Yeah, he's a fantastic guy and he's been actually with 540 00:26:00.759 --> 00:26:02.680 me on my journey into Area fifty two. And the 541 00:26:02.720 --> 00:26:04.880 reason I mentioned him is because I hit him up 542 00:26:04.920 --> 00:26:07.599 once to learn how to create a mind palace. And 543 00:26:07.640 --> 00:26:10.480 you can check out his channel. He teaches you know, 544 00:26:10.680 --> 00:26:12.640 he teaches you how to remember Morse code and how 545 00:26:12.680 --> 00:26:15.400 to remember the alphabet backwards and like all the US 546 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.599 presidents and all these cool tricks using mnemonics. And so 547 00:26:18.640 --> 00:26:20.240 he taught me how to memorize of deck of cards 548 00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:23.200 under five minutes through practice, right, creating a mind palace 549 00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:23.720 and all this stuff. 550 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:24.599 Loved it. It was amazing. 551 00:26:24.599 --> 00:26:26.640 I made a video on my channel with him, and 552 00:26:26.640 --> 00:26:28.640 then one day we're on a podcast and he slips 553 00:26:28.640 --> 00:26:31.759 in this thing where he says, hey, yeah, I made 554 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:32.319 some money. 555 00:26:32.680 --> 00:26:33.440 Like months ago. 556 00:26:33.720 --> 00:26:36.160 This guy hit me up and he taught me remote 557 00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.359 viewing and I'm like, what do you mean, what is that? 558 00:26:40.119 --> 00:26:41.880 I've heard that before and he's like, well, it's this 559 00:26:42.000 --> 00:26:44.720 thing that like psychic spies used to do that worked 560 00:26:44.720 --> 00:26:48.000 for the government and there's a spy on Rusher or something, 561 00:26:48.319 --> 00:26:52.160 and yeah, I don't know. They were like, hey, do 562 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:54.039 you want to make money or a memory champion? We 563 00:26:54.079 --> 00:26:57.160 can teach you this and play the stock market for 564 00:26:57.240 --> 00:27:00.400 this group of like hedge fund investors that want to 565 00:27:00.440 --> 00:27:03.960 pay us to do that. So he proceeded to learn 566 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:07.359 how to remote view for a month. They trained him 567 00:27:07.440 --> 00:27:09.559 an hour day and then he made money remote view 568 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:11.279 and he tells me this, and I'm like, dude, can 569 00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:17.400 you teach me? And he goes, yeah, I think so. 570 00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:19.799 So I'm like, Okay, this is an interesting video. Now 571 00:27:19.839 --> 00:27:21.680 I'm thinking from my main channel still, right, because I 572 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.880 hadn't created Area fifty two, and so I start filming 573 00:27:26.440 --> 00:27:31.680 myself learning this, and I'm getting results that are like 574 00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:34.559 making the hairs on my body stand up. 575 00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.319 Dude, when we were at Monroe together, I paid attention 576 00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.000 to this. We were sitting with Joe mcmonagall, right, And 577 00:27:41.079 --> 00:27:43.599 we can go a little more into Monroe later if 578 00:27:43.599 --> 00:27:45.759 you'd like, you know, I would love to, yeah, But 579 00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.720 we were at Monroe together, right, So I'm looking around 580 00:27:49.759 --> 00:27:52.519 the room we're doing the remote viewing. Joe mcmonagall is 581 00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:55.200 coaching us how to do it, and I'm looking at 582 00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.200 my page and I'm getting hits. But they're like not 583 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.079 really strong. It's like, you know, the Devil's Tower. I 584 00:28:01.160 --> 00:28:04.839 drew like a cylinder and I wrote like maybe rock 585 00:28:05.000 --> 00:28:07.599 or something. You know. I look over at your page 586 00:28:07.759 --> 00:28:12.279 and you drew like you were drawing like landscapes like you. 587 00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.319 I think one of them was it was the one 588 00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:17.640 in uh we had the Devil's Tower. What was in 589 00:28:17.640 --> 00:28:21.200 Saint Louis. Saint Louis a stadium? You drew the stadium. Yeah, 590 00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.359 you drew. I saw it. I was like, holy shit, 591 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:27.319 you know you you mapped it out. Yeah, you nailed it. 592 00:28:27.480 --> 00:28:29.799 Yeah. And then I mean that type of stuff happens 593 00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:32.319 when you do it every day, like you get crazy 594 00:28:32.400 --> 00:28:34.960 hits and they get way better than that. I was 595 00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.240 not impressed by that hit whatsoever. After I've seen a 596 00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:39.079 lot of the hits I was that Nelson and I 597 00:28:39.119 --> 00:28:39.440 have had. 598 00:28:39.519 --> 00:28:41.680 Can I ask you a question about this? What's your 599 00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:43.400 practice routine every day? 600 00:28:44.039 --> 00:28:46.920 Just so I don't do it anymore rarely? What what 601 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:49.400 I did it for a year then? Just every every 602 00:28:49.480 --> 00:28:53.079 day you would? So there's these random image generators online 603 00:28:53.079 --> 00:28:54.440 that are made for remo viewing. 604 00:28:54.240 --> 00:28:56.640 Right, No, I know, yeah, So Amy introduced it to 605 00:28:56.680 --> 00:28:59.279 me exactly and I've been a little crazy about it, 606 00:28:59.319 --> 00:29:01.799 and so that's why I ask of what was your practice? 607 00:29:01.880 --> 00:29:06.960 So there is a protocol invented by Ingo Swan for 608 00:29:07.039 --> 00:29:11.240 the government, and this is what they taught the remote 609 00:29:11.319 --> 00:29:12.720 viewing team in the army. 610 00:29:12.559 --> 00:29:13.839 Right, this is how they taught them. 611 00:29:13.880 --> 00:29:17.079 So they Ingo Swan, who is a natural psychic, very gifted, 612 00:29:18.519 --> 00:29:25.279 was basically instructed to create this training program for army 613 00:29:25.400 --> 00:29:28.480 and civilian and intelligence agents to learn how to remote 614 00:29:28.519 --> 00:29:30.559 you to see if they were any good. And so 615 00:29:30.599 --> 00:29:32.680 he came up with this protocol with like multiple stages, 616 00:29:32.720 --> 00:29:33.920 like seven stages or whatever. 617 00:29:34.000 --> 00:29:37.599 He wrote the book Penetration, right, yeah, okay. 618 00:29:37.319 --> 00:29:40.960 Yeah, he's a very famous artist as well, but he 619 00:29:41.079 --> 00:29:44.799 was an incredible psychic. And yeah, so through this protocol, 620 00:29:44.839 --> 00:29:47.119 which is like you know, you start off with like 621 00:29:47.160 --> 00:29:49.759 an idiogram, which is like a scribble, then you describe 622 00:29:49.759 --> 00:29:52.000 some things, you go into descriptors, a whole bunch of 623 00:29:52.039 --> 00:29:55.880 descriptors like texture, size, colors, all these things that you're perceiving, 624 00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:57.759 and then you go into a drawing and then more 625 00:29:57.759 --> 00:29:59.559 descriptors and so on and so forth. It's like this 626 00:30:00.480 --> 00:30:03.680 sort of seven stage thing. I was taught this by Nelson. 627 00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:06.319 We started doing this daily. He sent me. He sent 628 00:30:06.359 --> 00:30:08.640 me photos that he would find with give me random 629 00:30:08.680 --> 00:30:10.640 reference numbers that would write down and. 630 00:30:10.680 --> 00:30:12.799 Do the sessions. I've logged this. 631 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.640 I kept logging it and vlogging it, and after a 632 00:30:17.640 --> 00:30:23.680 while I was like, dude, this is too cool. I 633 00:30:23.720 --> 00:30:26.839 don't think this will live on my channel. Yeah, I 634 00:30:26.839 --> 00:30:30.000 think I want to start a new channel. Oh. And 635 00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.799 at this point I was so I was so engulfed 636 00:30:34.799 --> 00:30:37.319 by this project, and I was like, now I want 637 00:30:37.359 --> 00:30:40.400 to know, Like, because of the results I was getting, 638 00:30:41.079 --> 00:30:44.680 I wanted to know where was this, who's still doing this, 639 00:30:44.960 --> 00:30:48.240 who taught this, who's the best at this? Because this 640 00:30:48.359 --> 00:30:50.400 is real, this is happening. I've done it. You know, 641 00:30:50.440 --> 00:30:53.400 for anybody who says remote viewing is BS or whatever 642 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:55.920 you want to say, dude, the only thing I can 643 00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:58.640 tell you is is put the working first before you 644 00:30:58.759 --> 00:31:02.079 say anything, because it's so easy to be a sheet 645 00:31:02.079 --> 00:31:04.599 and follow what everyone says. And you know, part of 646 00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:06.559 the reason I started this channel was because I want 647 00:31:06.640 --> 00:31:08.839 to be boots on the ground and I want to 648 00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:11.799 do it. I'm not listening to anyone. I'm coming here. 649 00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:14.319 I'm hanging with you and your father. I'm going you know, 650 00:31:14.359 --> 00:31:17.519 to meet these psychic spies. I'm going to Monroe Institute 651 00:31:17.519 --> 00:31:19.480 to try it myself, and I think that's a really 652 00:31:19.559 --> 00:31:21.640 important thing for more people to do. Don't take my 653 00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:22.240 word for it. 654 00:31:22.240 --> 00:31:23.559 Either, you know. 655 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:29.960 Anyways, this happens. I ended up reaching out to Joe mcmonagall, 656 00:31:30.559 --> 00:31:34.200 went to his house in Virginia, spend time with him, 657 00:31:34.279 --> 00:31:38.240 interviewed him. Major Ed Dames traveled to California, Sacramento to 658 00:31:38.279 --> 00:31:41.359 meet him cool, spend time with him, spend time with 659 00:31:41.440 --> 00:31:44.599 a doctor Ed May who is the chief Research physicist 660 00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:47.480 for SRI the thirty years of the Psychic Project for 661 00:31:47.519 --> 00:31:49.880 the CIA. You know, so I talked to scientists, I 662 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:53.920 talked to taskers, I talked to the remote viewers. I 663 00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:56.759 talked to Yuri Geller on the documentary as well, like 664 00:31:56.799 --> 00:32:00.880 I interviewed him. So for me, I was really test. Yeah, 665 00:32:01.319 --> 00:32:03.799 and then I cut it all together and that was 666 00:32:03.839 --> 00:32:05.599 my first project for Area fifty two. 667 00:32:06.000 --> 00:32:08.319 Wow. Yeah, and that's how I got started. That's amazing. 668 00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:10.519 So that's kind of funny to me that you were 669 00:32:10.559 --> 00:32:14.160 like you almost had this like fracture in your identity, 670 00:32:14.319 --> 00:32:17.599 like your you know, your your magic and I highly 671 00:32:18.119 --> 00:32:21.079 highly recommend you guys at home to like check out, 672 00:32:21.400 --> 00:32:24.200 please plug your magic channel. Yeah, it's my name, It's 673 00:32:24.240 --> 00:32:26.599 just Chris Ramsey. Yeah, okay, so your Instagram has numbers 674 00:32:26.599 --> 00:32:29.039 in Yeah, fifty two Chris Ramsey fifty two. Okay, I 675 00:32:29.079 --> 00:32:32.000 want to make sure I didn't confuse it. Check his channel. 676 00:32:33.240 --> 00:32:35.599 It's amazing. We were kind of just watching some videos 677 00:32:35.680 --> 00:32:37.799 last night. You were showing us and You're like, you 678 00:32:37.839 --> 00:32:39.240 don't have to watch anymore. I'm like, keep it going, 679 00:32:40.400 --> 00:32:46.039 keep it go. Next and just your your channel is 680 00:32:46.160 --> 00:32:50.359 so amazing, not both channels. I'll say it's so amazing. 681 00:32:50.559 --> 00:32:55.480 Not because of your skill, that's fifty percent of it. 682 00:32:55.680 --> 00:32:58.079 Your your magic is amazing. I mean you do things 683 00:32:58.160 --> 00:33:01.200 with your hands, with your mind, with your voice that 684 00:33:01.359 --> 00:33:05.799 I could not fathom. But your content is so amazing 685 00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.920 because like, in my mind, you're a director. You know, 686 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.720 you have the mind of a director. I'm paying attention 687 00:33:12.799 --> 00:33:14.519 to you in the last few days that you're here, 688 00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:16.920 trying to learn from you, you know, and you're showing 689 00:33:16.920 --> 00:33:19.480 me sketches of your new studio. Meanwhile you're just sitting 690 00:33:19.519 --> 00:33:23.000 in my humble abode and I'm like, huh, you know, 691 00:33:23.240 --> 00:33:25.759 maybe I could use a secret compartment escape room. No, 692 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:28.920 but in all seriousness, you know, like just the craft 693 00:33:29.000 --> 00:33:31.920 that that you put into this, the attention to detail, 694 00:33:32.000 --> 00:33:35.759 it's inspiring, it's epic, it's mind blowing, and you guys 695 00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:38.960 should check it out for sure. But Area fifty two 696 00:33:39.640 --> 00:33:41.839 an I'm gonna pickle here because I don't want to 697 00:33:41.839 --> 00:33:44.519 give away some of the goods, but also want to 698 00:33:44.519 --> 00:33:45.759 talk about why it's so cool. 699 00:33:46.160 --> 00:33:49.440 So yeah, I mean, there's there's a lot going on there, 700 00:33:49.720 --> 00:33:53.200 you know, from podcasts to investigations. Investigations the main reason 701 00:33:53.200 --> 00:33:54.799 the channel exists. A podcasts are kind of like to 702 00:33:54.799 --> 00:33:56.359 hold you off until the next one because these things 703 00:33:56.400 --> 00:33:59.480 take time. Yeah, you know, on the discord, my people 704 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:01.359 help me out, just like your discord. You know that 705 00:34:01.400 --> 00:34:03.759 We've got a really good base there where people helped 706 00:34:03.759 --> 00:34:06.720 me out with these investigations and we you know, we're 707 00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:11.159 I'm currently investigating four things right now. So I got 708 00:34:11.159 --> 00:34:14.800 four projects that are in different stages of completion, and 709 00:34:14.840 --> 00:34:18.840 they take time because I have to go places, but 710 00:34:18.880 --> 00:34:20.840 I also have to learn things. And you know, part 711 00:34:20.880 --> 00:34:24.039 of that was going to Monroe, right you know, I 712 00:34:24.079 --> 00:34:27.760 had I had a multiple out of body experiences after 713 00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:29.840 meeting Joe mcmonagall, which is interesting. 714 00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:30.960 That's interesting. 715 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:32.599 Yeah, he told me about them for the first I've 716 00:34:32.599 --> 00:34:34.519 never heard of these. He told me about them. I 717 00:34:34.519 --> 00:34:37.119 go home and I spontaneously have two back to back. 718 00:34:37.199 --> 00:34:39.320 Don't even think about Joe put this together. 719 00:34:39.440 --> 00:34:44.800 Way after something comes to my mind about that. So 720 00:34:45.199 --> 00:34:49.960 if you if you really get down into like esotericism 721 00:34:50.159 --> 00:34:53.519 or you know, you could say like ancient Tibetan Buddhism, 722 00:34:53.639 --> 00:34:58.400 or just just spiritual spirituality in general, there's there's the 723 00:34:58.480 --> 00:35:03.440 concept of like the on of the hands of a master. Right. 724 00:35:03.800 --> 00:35:06.920 You always have this archetype of like the student in 725 00:35:07.360 --> 00:35:10.760 the teacher, the hermit right, or like the apostles and Jesus. 726 00:35:10.760 --> 00:35:12.599 You know, he lays his hands and he blesses them 727 00:35:12.639 --> 00:35:14.559 and they have the ability to go forth and spread 728 00:35:14.599 --> 00:35:17.079 the gospel and you know, perform miracles. Or you have 729 00:35:17.159 --> 00:35:22.159 Merlin and Arthur, or you know the kung fu master 730 00:35:22.239 --> 00:35:24.960 in disciple. There's always this theme throughout history of like, 731 00:35:25.400 --> 00:35:28.679 you know, a skill is truly transmitted once received from 732 00:35:28.679 --> 00:35:31.360 a master right, And my mind goes to this, like 733 00:35:31.400 --> 00:35:33.239 you're studying this, you're studying this, you're studying to this, 734 00:35:33.320 --> 00:35:35.440 and then you meet the master m hm, And what 735 00:35:35.480 --> 00:35:36.960 does he tell you? You know, you can you can 736 00:35:36.960 --> 00:35:41.719 go out of body? Yeah, okay, the power transfer, you know. Interesting. 737 00:35:41.800 --> 00:35:44.079 Maybe it's a little symbolic, but sure, that's that's where 738 00:35:44.079 --> 00:35:44.679 my mind goes. 739 00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.199 I definitely like, I mean, there's there's a reason this 740 00:35:47.280 --> 00:35:49.440 happened to me then and not ten years ago or 741 00:35:49.519 --> 00:35:51.400 not in three years like, you know, like that I 742 00:35:51.440 --> 00:35:53.559 think about a lot. The fact that it happened to 743 00:35:53.559 --> 00:35:58.719 me then was so timely because now you know when 744 00:35:58.760 --> 00:36:01.039 it happened too. I didn't think anything. I didn't think 745 00:36:01.039 --> 00:36:04.599 out of body. Yeah, I thought this is just a 746 00:36:04.639 --> 00:36:06.800 weird like dream, but it wasn't a dream. And I 747 00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:09.079 didn't really know what to make of it. And I 748 00:36:09.119 --> 00:36:12.199 heard astral projection being thrown around when I googled it. 749 00:36:13.079 --> 00:36:16.079 Never out of body was always like astral projection type deal. 750 00:36:16.119 --> 00:36:18.559 And I was like, that's a little too woo woo 751 00:36:18.599 --> 00:36:20.559 for me, you know, I really thought that. I was like, 752 00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:23.679 that's I don't even know, like if that's what I had, 753 00:36:23.719 --> 00:36:25.360 I think they're just making it up. What I had 754 00:36:25.440 --> 00:36:27.079 was different than what they had, you know, And this 755 00:36:27.119 --> 00:36:32.800 is the attitude I had. And then I started learning 756 00:36:32.840 --> 00:36:37.000 about Bob and Roe about I don't know, it was 757 00:36:37.079 --> 00:36:40.679 after six months later or something like that, sometime this year. 758 00:36:41.159 --> 00:36:44.199 And I've never heard of them before other than when 759 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.760 mentioned by Joe mcmonagall and Ed May. They both mentioned 760 00:36:46.760 --> 00:36:48.280 because they both did, you know a lot of sleep 761 00:36:48.320 --> 00:36:50.800 analysis and lucid dream testing with Bob and that type 762 00:36:50.840 --> 00:36:55.079 of deal. And and I was like, all right, well, 763 00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.360 let me reach out to the Monro Institute. How cool 764 00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.039 would it be if I could document like an entire 765 00:36:59.079 --> 00:37:00.920 week of me going there? 766 00:37:01.119 --> 00:37:02.199 Really? Yeah? 767 00:37:02.519 --> 00:37:05.639 And I hit up Paul and Paul's like, and I'm like, hey, 768 00:37:05.679 --> 00:37:07.880 do you have any programs and if so, would it 769 00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.400 be possible that I can film, you know, one of 770 00:37:10.440 --> 00:37:12.440 these things? And Paul said, let me get back to you. 771 00:37:12.480 --> 00:37:16.320 He's like, filming a little touchy, He's like, but just 772 00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:18.159 because it's other people's privacy and stuff. 773 00:37:18.880 --> 00:37:20.280 And he got back to me and he said, hey, 774 00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:21.079 I'll do you one better. 775 00:37:21.199 --> 00:37:24.599 What if we put together a creator week, like a 776 00:37:24.719 --> 00:37:27.760 like a creator group. And you know, he's like, I 777 00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:29.800 think I can get enough creators together to like do 778 00:37:29.880 --> 00:37:31.960 something like this. Would you be opposed to that or 779 00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:34.360 would you before that? I'm like, dude, that sounds amazing 780 00:37:34.719 --> 00:37:36.840 and He's like, yeah, that way everybody can film and everything. 781 00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:40.079 I was like, yeah, one and then calls me back. 782 00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:43.440 I sloughted myself in. I slotted Nelson in as well, 783 00:37:43.840 --> 00:37:45.559 who didn't actually make it the one that we went to, 784 00:37:45.840 --> 00:37:50.480 which is another synchronicity in itself. But then but then yeah, 785 00:37:50.559 --> 00:37:53.400 and then met you there, you know, met Hannah, met 786 00:37:53.400 --> 00:37:58.239 all the amazing people, you know, Amy Sean, I mean, 787 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:06.480 Brad Hakeim, I mean Mark Marco, everybody was Rosa, Lee, Dude, Ignacio, Emily, 788 00:38:06.599 --> 00:38:10.519 Emily Archie and Maya Yep, yep, the entire group. Now 789 00:38:10.519 --> 00:38:12.280 I'm sure I'm leaving somebody at We just like name 790 00:38:12.320 --> 00:38:13.719 dropped everybody and I'm sure. 791 00:38:13.960 --> 00:38:21.440 Uh we saved the best for last. Yeah. 792 00:38:21.440 --> 00:38:23.599 But yeah, it was incredible, and it was incredible finding 793 00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:26.320 you guys, Like I really I really feel I really 794 00:38:26.360 --> 00:38:28.920 feel like, you know, I found my tribe a few 795 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.480 times in my life, but this time was like, oh, 796 00:38:31.920 --> 00:38:33.440 I feel like I've met these people before. 797 00:38:33.840 --> 00:38:36.480 Yeah, you know, truely the same way. And our rooms 798 00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.920 were beside each other, so like every time going in 799 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:40.920 and every time we're going out, it's like, how was it? 800 00:38:41.079 --> 00:38:43.159 How was it? She on the other side, like a 801 00:38:43.199 --> 00:38:46.559 week of this, like, well that was crazy, dude. That 802 00:38:46.639 --> 00:38:47.719 was that was really fun. 803 00:38:48.480 --> 00:38:51.000 Then we go we went skywatching there, which was for 804 00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:53.440 me really surreal because I had already read your your 805 00:38:53.480 --> 00:38:57.119 Father's book. And what's funny is that your Father's book 806 00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:00.719 only came up because I was falling allowing on TikTok. 807 00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:03.519 I was already following Sean Webb because he's. 808 00:39:03.400 --> 00:39:06.079 Brilliant, Yeah, mining happiness, Yeah. 809 00:39:05.960 --> 00:39:09.280 Checked out great books too, And I was also following 810 00:39:09.320 --> 00:39:12.360 Jordan Crowder. Oh okay, yeah, just randomly because you know 811 00:39:12.400 --> 00:39:15.039 it was Talks in the Woods about conscious Love due. Yeah, 812 00:39:15.239 --> 00:39:20.079 really fun to listen to. And Sean Webb it was like, hey, 813 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:22.440 there's this book coming out, like you guys have to 814 00:39:22.440 --> 00:39:24.360 pick it up, or this book that just came out. 815 00:39:24.400 --> 00:39:26.920 It was like twenty twenty two, right, three was twenty 816 00:39:26.960 --> 00:39:29.719 twenty three early, like oh early twenty yeah. Yeah, so 817 00:39:30.280 --> 00:39:33.079 he goes, yes, book just came out. It's a UFO 818 00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.679 of God whatever. This guy who's been behind more closed 819 00:39:35.719 --> 00:39:38.239 doors than than you know, people in the government, and 820 00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:41.639 he's got you know, Josh. I was like, okay, instantly 821 00:39:41.679 --> 00:39:44.920 get it. I get the audiobook, listen to this mind 822 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.400 blown and then you know, I start looking up your 823 00:39:47.440 --> 00:39:50.679 podcast and then I found out you're at the Mono 824 00:39:50.800 --> 00:39:55.679 Institute and so Sean, Yeah, who suggested the book? And yeah, 825 00:39:55.880 --> 00:39:57.400 this weird full circle. 826 00:39:58.039 --> 00:40:01.039 Before and obviously yeah, that's that's really full circle. Yeah, 827 00:40:01.079 --> 00:40:04.159 really weird. Yeah, when you explain it like that, like 828 00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.039 I'm just hearing the story of someone who has these 829 00:40:07.119 --> 00:40:09.880 really big dreams in a in a you know, solid 830 00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.280 sense of self and confidence and self worth, and you're 831 00:40:13.320 --> 00:40:16.639 just like literally manifesting every one of your dreams. Yeah, 832 00:40:16.679 --> 00:40:20.719 it feels like that about it, and every single field that 833 00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:25.719 you are interested in, you are achieving mastery. Have you 834 00:40:25.719 --> 00:40:30.199 thought about that? Yeah, I mean i've I haven't. I wouldn't. 835 00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:31.800 I wouldn't put it that way, but yes I would. 836 00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:32.400 I just did. 837 00:40:32.880 --> 00:40:37.039 I I feel and I've always felt this way, and 838 00:40:37.079 --> 00:40:40.519 I think since I mean since I can remember, I go, 839 00:40:40.679 --> 00:40:42.480 like even before high school, like. 840 00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:43.239 I've always felt this way. 841 00:40:43.239 --> 00:40:46.639 I always felt like the only thing stopping anything from 842 00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:50.400 happening is me, right, I've always felt that like, yeah, 843 00:40:51.360 --> 00:40:54.440 there's nothing, there's there was never anything like for me. 844 00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:57.760 It was always like, Okay, if I can see what 845 00:40:57.800 --> 00:40:59.920 the end result is, right, if I can really pitch 846 00:41:00.199 --> 00:41:02.719 that in my head. Then all I have to do 847 00:41:02.840 --> 00:41:06.960 is reverse engineer it. And that seems easy because when 848 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:08.639 you break it down to steps, then it's like, okay, well, 849 00:41:08.679 --> 00:41:10.079 then all I have to do is do these steps 850 00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:13.159 and this will take me to where I'm going. Like that, 851 00:41:13.239 --> 00:41:15.960 It's that simple. It's not more complicated than that. For 852 00:41:16.079 --> 00:41:19.719 me anyways, it wasn't like oh, you know, do this 853 00:41:19.880 --> 00:41:22.559 or do that, or like say, you know, say these 854 00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.840 words or whatever like it. It was just as easy 855 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:28.159 as okay, let me really picture what this looks like. 856 00:41:28.920 --> 00:41:29.239 Cool. 857 00:41:29.840 --> 00:41:33.559 Okay, so let's back it up one step. What's that step? 858 00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.480 And thent's back it up another one, and let's break 859 00:41:35.480 --> 00:41:37.960 that down and then keep going back right, and now 860 00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:39.920 I'm like, okay, well now I know where I have 861 00:41:39.960 --> 00:41:43.760 to go. Yeah, And so you know, it's like it's 862 00:41:43.800 --> 00:41:47.079 like going in the dark and you're going up these stairs, right, 863 00:41:47.159 --> 00:41:51.440 you can't really feel the stairs, right, but you now 864 00:41:51.559 --> 00:41:54.480 somebody turns a light on upstairs and you're like, oh, 865 00:41:54.519 --> 00:41:56.760 there it is, and now you've got a direction to go. 866 00:41:57.239 --> 00:41:58.599 Now you know where you're going, and it's kind of 867 00:41:58.639 --> 00:41:59.519 shining a light on the. 868 00:41:59.440 --> 00:42:00.000 Rest of the stairs. 869 00:42:00.079 --> 00:42:01.519 So you're like, oh, this is just all I have 870 00:42:01.559 --> 00:42:03.480 to do is do this one step at a time, 871 00:42:03.559 --> 00:42:04.360 and I. 872 00:42:04.440 --> 00:42:07.039 See where I'm going. Yeah, so it's not that hard, 873 00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:07.440 you know. 874 00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:10.559 And that's kind of how I felt with YouTube, with magic, 875 00:42:10.599 --> 00:42:12.639 with puzzles, with this stuff, with anything else. 876 00:42:12.679 --> 00:42:15.960 See, there's another thing that you've just revealed. You're humble. 877 00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:19.679 Well, I mean I can't accept that compliment. 878 00:42:19.840 --> 00:42:22.320 Well, I mean that's okay. I'm not going to take 879 00:42:22.320 --> 00:42:22.559 it back. 880 00:42:22.599 --> 00:42:25.840 Way too way, too humble to accept that. 881 00:42:26.280 --> 00:42:28.320 I'll tell you why, man, I'll tell you why. Look, 882 00:42:28.320 --> 00:42:30.079 this is my show, so I guess you if I want, 883 00:42:30.159 --> 00:42:34.519 all right, it's because I see someone who I've now 884 00:42:34.559 --> 00:42:36.840 known for three months, and like you said, you know, 885 00:42:36.880 --> 00:42:39.599 we've found our tribe, and you know, people sometimes you 886 00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:41.880 just meet. It's like when I met Alex, Right, I 887 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:43.840 met Alex six years ago. Oh look at him, proud 888 00:42:43.880 --> 00:42:46.679 you changed since this wedding. And we'll get to that 889 00:42:46.760 --> 00:42:48.039 late another episode. 890 00:42:48.159 --> 00:42:49.320 He's a softy now yo. 891 00:42:49.639 --> 00:42:52.039 Yeah dude, yeah, we'll get to that late ware the 892 00:42:52.039 --> 00:42:56.440 boys here by this, yeah yeah, But what I see 893 00:42:57.119 --> 00:43:00.599 is someone who oh I'm sorry I was saying that. 894 00:43:00.639 --> 00:43:02.239 You know, we clicked, like I was telling you like 895 00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:03.880 when I met Alex, we just clicked. You just meet 896 00:43:03.920 --> 00:43:06.159 people in life. You have many of them too, I'm sure, 897 00:43:06.320 --> 00:43:07.800 Like you meet someone and you click and you just 898 00:43:07.800 --> 00:43:09.719 feel a bond with this person, and you know, you 899 00:43:09.800 --> 00:43:11.920 just feel like, okay, cool. Even if I didn't see 900 00:43:11.960 --> 00:43:13.639 you for another five years, if you called me up 901 00:43:13.639 --> 00:43:15.400 at six years or seven years or whatever, it's like, 902 00:43:15.440 --> 00:43:18.079 what's up, Let's get together. Nothing change, you know, that's 903 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:23.800 just connections. Sometimes people feel and what I feel about 904 00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:29.320 you from what I've observed. Right, Okay, let's start with magic, 905 00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.920 your first love. I don't know if I'm allowed to 906 00:43:33.000 --> 00:43:35.639 name some of the things or people that you've told 907 00:43:35.639 --> 00:43:39.239 me or you know, I'm sure. Okay, Yeah, We're riding 908 00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:41.239 to Fadeville and you're telling me a story about how you're, 909 00:43:41.280 --> 00:43:44.440 you know, hanging out with David Copperfield, you know, David Blaine, 910 00:43:44.440 --> 00:43:46.960 you know, just one of my humble rants. Well, I 911 00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:52.000 mean it's you know, I'm getting to getting to that. 912 00:43:53.000 --> 00:43:54.199 I mean, there's good stories. 913 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:59.280 It's not I'm getting to I'm getting to that, right, Okay, great, 914 00:43:59.480 --> 00:44:04.320 So you My point is you have achieved the top 915 00:44:04.360 --> 00:44:06.519 of your field. Is the way I see it. I'm 916 00:44:06.559 --> 00:44:08.119 just telling you what I see. I see things too, 917 00:44:08.480 --> 00:44:11.679 you know, I have intuitions too, and I'm just I'm 918 00:44:11.719 --> 00:44:13.800 telling you what I see and what I feel. You've 919 00:44:13.800 --> 00:44:16.320 achieved the top of your field. You're show me your video. 920 00:44:16.639 --> 00:44:18.400 This is my buddy, he's you know, he's really big 921 00:44:18.440 --> 00:44:21.840 in Japan. Oh cool. So clearly, you know, you're you're, you're, 922 00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:24.320 you're in the top of your field, you know, and 923 00:44:24.360 --> 00:44:26.840 you're like, okay, let's let's uh, let's get into this 924 00:44:26.960 --> 00:44:32.920 UFO thing. Look at where you are. Yeah, and all 925 00:44:32.960 --> 00:44:34.599 the other people you've told me. You know, I've got 926 00:44:34.599 --> 00:44:36.000 a meeting with so and so and a meeting with 927 00:44:36.000 --> 00:44:37.239 so and so. I don't want to give away your 928 00:44:37.519 --> 00:44:40.639 you know, but he's he's in the UFO field. He's 929 00:44:40.960 --> 00:44:46.760 literally finding himself with all the top players I wanted 930 00:44:46.760 --> 00:44:49.800 to learn about remote viewing called drum and Monaga whoop, 931 00:44:49.880 --> 00:44:50.559 walk in the door. 932 00:44:50.760 --> 00:44:52.440 And it's funny with Joe. 933 00:44:52.480 --> 00:44:55.800 Actually, are you seeing where I'm going with this? You're you're, you're, 934 00:44:55.840 --> 00:44:59.079 you're reaching the top of your field everywhere. But the 935 00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:03.440 more I'm sitting with you, I just feel like a 936 00:45:04.880 --> 00:45:09.960 you know, a gratitude, a humility, Uh, just like, dude, 937 00:45:11.159 --> 00:45:13.960 you've spent hours and hours and hours the last three 938 00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:18.639 days just trying to just give me advice and Alex coming, 939 00:45:19.039 --> 00:45:20.480 I want to talk about this and you know, tell 940 00:45:20.519 --> 00:45:21.960 you about this editing thing in this and you know 941 00:45:21.960 --> 00:45:24.079 you're sending me this use this. You know, it's like 942 00:45:24.239 --> 00:45:27.519 you can easily be like, you know, do the show 943 00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:29.400 and dip out. But no, dude, you're you're going the 944 00:45:29.440 --> 00:45:32.199 extra mile to like what I in the sense that 945 00:45:32.239 --> 00:45:34.000 you're like helping everyone around you. 946 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:37.320 Man, nice. 947 00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:42.320 Coming in here, dude, you got to see this rats 948 00:45:42.360 --> 00:45:52.920 nest every hey, I mean drop this in post. 949 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:58.480 Yeah, we got to. It's a work in progress progress. 950 00:45:58.880 --> 00:46:01.960 It looks great. But this matters. My point is I 951 00:46:02.039 --> 00:46:04.280 just I wanted to. I wanted to think, you know, 952 00:46:04.360 --> 00:46:06.559 pay that forward to you because you've you've been so 953 00:46:06.760 --> 00:46:10.400 nice and so helpful, and so I. 954 00:46:10.320 --> 00:46:12.000 Feel the same way about you though, So it's it's 955 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:17.719 reciprocal and and it's also not for like the thing 956 00:46:17.880 --> 00:46:19.599 when you said, like when you when you you know, 957 00:46:19.599 --> 00:46:22.199 find somebody in click and that like there's a there's 958 00:46:22.199 --> 00:46:24.840 a trust thing, there's a mutual respect thing, and there's 959 00:46:24.920 --> 00:46:28.159 just a there's a bond there where what I know 960 00:46:28.519 --> 00:46:30.960 is yours, you know what I mean? Yeah, I feel 961 00:46:30.960 --> 00:46:32.679 that and I feel that from you too, and so 962 00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:34.599 I think it's more of that where I'm just like, hey, 963 00:46:35.079 --> 00:46:37.400 I'm open, I'm an open book. Whatever you need for me, 964 00:46:37.719 --> 00:46:40.039 you know, you can, you can have. It's not I 965 00:46:40.039 --> 00:46:42.400 don't gate keep this. I don't you know, and I 966 00:46:42.440 --> 00:46:45.039 wouldn't gate keep it really for for anyone, but I 967 00:46:45.039 --> 00:46:48.679 would definitely, you know, I'm definitely willing to share if 968 00:46:48.719 --> 00:46:52.000 it if I think that it can help you get 969 00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:54.079 to where you want to be, you know, that is 970 00:46:54.159 --> 00:46:54.719 that is for sure. 971 00:46:54.800 --> 00:46:57.159 Yeah. Well, I just I just wanted to say that, 972 00:46:57.239 --> 00:47:01.800 you know, because I I you as somebody who's uh, 973 00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:05.599 who's who's genuinely on the path, Who's you know, what's 974 00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:11.559 the path? Knowledge? Truth, yeah, mastery, you know, these are 975 00:47:11.599 --> 00:47:14.519 all different things that that that I think deep down 976 00:47:14.559 --> 00:47:16.400 all of us are seeking. And there's some people like 977 00:47:16.480 --> 00:47:21.119 us who are very sincerely, sincerely and furiously on this path, 978 00:47:21.239 --> 00:47:24.360 you know, without falter and what we saw together last night, 979 00:47:24.480 --> 00:47:27.280 the week we experienced together at Monroe, and like, based 980 00:47:27.360 --> 00:47:29.159 on just what we're talking about and the things that 981 00:47:29.199 --> 00:47:32.039 you're into, and you know, what I was pretty shocked 982 00:47:32.039 --> 00:47:34.800 two days ago when you told me and my parents 983 00:47:34.880 --> 00:47:37.639 that you're you know, you were kind of really looking 984 00:47:37.679 --> 00:47:40.639 to get into overdrive of the Area fifty two. And 985 00:47:40.639 --> 00:47:43.079 and my parents are like, what why you know your 986 00:47:43.159 --> 00:47:45.480 your magic channel is it's so big and so does 987 00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:47.320 and you know, yeah, but you know this, this is 988 00:47:47.320 --> 00:47:49.159 what I'm passionate about. So I just I wanted to 989 00:47:49.159 --> 00:47:51.199 say these things. I wanted to I wanted to tell 990 00:47:51.239 --> 00:47:53.719 you what I was feeling. But really I want them 991 00:47:53.719 --> 00:47:57.679 to hear because I want these people to look at 992 00:47:57.719 --> 00:48:01.159 your channel and and you know, follow along with what 993 00:48:01.199 --> 00:48:04.599 you're doing and go check out Area fifty two. And 994 00:48:05.559 --> 00:48:08.440 I appreciate you rather you thank you. It's cinematic, it's 995 00:48:09.320 --> 00:48:12.960 high art, you know, high as Hannah said earlier, high brow, 996 00:48:13.079 --> 00:48:16.599 you know, but he's on the path, like he's really 997 00:48:16.599 --> 00:48:19.000 on the path for truth. And like it's a little 998 00:48:19.159 --> 00:48:22.079 we're in a little different shoes here where like I've 999 00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:25.079 been on the inside of the UFO world and you're 1000 00:48:25.199 --> 00:48:28.960 like coming in, yeah, yeah, you get what I'm saying. 1001 00:48:29.199 --> 00:48:31.559 Yeah, But I mean I appreciate all the knowledge that 1002 00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:36.760 you've you know, imparted as well. And I love you know, 1003 00:48:37.639 --> 00:48:40.199 I love learning. I think you love learning too. This 1004 00:48:40.280 --> 00:48:44.639 is like, this is a really healthy in my opinion, 1005 00:48:45.440 --> 00:48:48.920 this subject is a really healthy thing to learn about. Yeah, 1006 00:48:49.320 --> 00:48:51.599 although you know a lot of people might feel otherwise. 1007 00:48:53.039 --> 00:48:56.679 I think it's really healthy because it, the subject itself 1008 00:48:57.440 --> 00:49:00.719 is forces you to be humble right to it. 1009 00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:03.800 Because you're sincerely on the pat. 1010 00:49:03.559 --> 00:49:06.159 If Yeah, I mean, if you're looking at what the 1011 00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:10.239 nature of this is, just purely, even if you know 1012 00:49:10.800 --> 00:49:15.280 you believe it's like this military weapon or whatever it is, right, 1013 00:49:15.440 --> 00:49:18.039 or if you believe it's like a spiritual thing, or 1014 00:49:18.239 --> 00:49:22.000 regardless of where you are on that scale, I think 1015 00:49:22.280 --> 00:49:24.079 no matter where you are, it puts you in a 1016 00:49:24.119 --> 00:49:28.599 place where you have to humble yourself and start thinking about, 1017 00:49:29.400 --> 00:49:33.760 you know, the gravity of it either way, right, And 1018 00:49:33.840 --> 00:49:36.440 I think that that's healthy. I think it's healthy to 1019 00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:38.599 do that because I think, you know, far too long, 1020 00:49:39.519 --> 00:49:43.840 all of us have have just put ourselves on the 1021 00:49:43.840 --> 00:49:47.079 top of whatever chain it is, and we've been up 1022 00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.199 there for too long, I feel, and it's nice to 1023 00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:54.760 know that, you know, we were not at the top, 1024 00:49:55.320 --> 00:49:58.119 you know, on this chain whatever wherever that chain leads. 1025 00:49:58.639 --> 00:50:01.039 And I think that's a real healthy thing for people 1026 00:50:01.079 --> 00:50:02.119 to look into because. 1027 00:50:01.920 --> 00:50:02.400 It does help. 1028 00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.280 It does help you put perspective, you know, because now 1029 00:50:05.320 --> 00:50:07.320 you realize once you realize like, you're not like the 1030 00:50:07.360 --> 00:50:10.800 apex of the universe anymore, you know, just that just 1031 00:50:10.840 --> 00:50:13.320 that once you realize that you're not that that you're 1032 00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.159 not it, but you are at the same time, but 1033 00:50:16.239 --> 00:50:22.760 you're not like above anything else it really. 1034 00:50:21.360 --> 00:50:23.079 But still no exactly. I always say this. 1035 00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:25.400 I always say when people are like, well, you know, 1036 00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.960 you know, nothing matters if we're all equal, and it's like, no, 1037 00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.880 we all matter equally. That's the whole point. Yeah, it's 1038 00:50:35.920 --> 00:50:38.239 not that nothing matters, is that we're all we all 1039 00:50:38.239 --> 00:50:39.679 matter exactly the same amount. 1040 00:50:39.920 --> 00:50:42.920 Yeah, which is why do no harm? Treat your neighbor 1041 00:50:43.000 --> 00:50:44.440 how you want to be treated. You know, we start 1042 00:50:44.480 --> 00:50:45.719 to kind of pick up something there. 1043 00:50:45.840 --> 00:50:48.960 But yeah, but this this subject does have a way 1044 00:50:49.079 --> 00:50:51.559 I think of, but it can be harmful. 1045 00:50:51.559 --> 00:50:52.320 You know you've seen that too. 1046 00:50:52.320 --> 00:50:55.639 You've seen people go off these the weird end of it. Yeah, 1047 00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:59.039 but if you I think, if you take it in 1048 00:50:59.079 --> 00:51:01.239 the proper way and do you do your own research 1049 00:51:01.280 --> 00:51:04.360 and really follow follow the signs, you know that the 1050 00:51:04.440 --> 00:51:07.280 universe is leading you towards I think you'll end up 1051 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:10.360 in a place that makes you a better person. Yeah, 1052 00:51:10.639 --> 00:51:17.079 and and and also it will show itself to this phenomenon, 1053 00:51:17.360 --> 00:51:20.159 and it will open up doors for you, and it 1054 00:51:20.239 --> 00:51:22.960 will show you like, this is things that I've never 1055 00:51:24.360 --> 00:51:28.480 in my entire skeptic magician's life, would have believed. You know, 1056 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.320 that is true. I was always, you know, of the 1057 00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:36.119 school of you know known no, No, that's you know, 1058 00:51:36.400 --> 00:51:38.800 that's horse crap and that's oizer. 1059 00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:40.039 Yeah, of course. 1060 00:51:40.960 --> 00:51:44.039 And although I still apply that to some things, I 1061 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.480 do now have a more open mind to the phenomenon, 1062 00:51:48.559 --> 00:51:51.239 to what the phenomenon means, and to paying attention to 1063 00:51:51.840 --> 00:51:55.239 the signs that And I hate saying the universe, right, 1064 00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.079 but what I mean is, yeah, maybe the universe on 1065 00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:01.800 a quantum level that you're interfacing with because you're a 1066 00:52:01.840 --> 00:52:05.039 part of it, So you're affecting your own self by 1067 00:52:05.800 --> 00:52:08.440 wanting things to happen. As weird as that. 1068 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:10.440 Sounds, now, it's beautiful. 1069 00:52:10.519 --> 00:52:13.280 Yeah, you're kind of like, you know, we're Jedi is 1070 00:52:13.320 --> 00:52:15.119 in this reality and we're kind of I'm kind of 1071 00:52:15.159 --> 00:52:18.239 just realizing that. And that's a really cool thing that 1072 00:52:18.280 --> 00:52:20.199 I wouldn't have discovered if I didn't you know, go 1073 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:22.880 down this this crazy, wild little path. 1074 00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:24.880 It's like morpheous, he's beginning to. 1075 00:52:24.840 --> 00:52:30.800 Believe he's becoming the one. That's what it feels that. 1076 00:52:31.079 --> 00:52:33.320 I'm telling you, man, it's like I'm morphous and he's neo. 1077 00:52:34.079 --> 00:52:35.559 Usually I want to be neo, but right now I 1078 00:52:35.599 --> 00:52:36.440 feel like I'm morphous. 1079 00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:38.840 But that's what it feels like. 1080 00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:39.119 Though. 1081 00:52:39.199 --> 00:52:41.400 When you you know, sometimes when you see these synchronicities, 1082 00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:44.320 I'm sure your audience does too. And you know, to 1083 00:52:44.360 --> 00:52:46.360 go to a skeptic and to try and explain this, 1084 00:52:46.519 --> 00:52:48.360 you just sound you sound ludicrous. 1085 00:52:48.440 --> 00:52:49.000 I get it. 1086 00:52:49.079 --> 00:52:51.519 I know what this sounds like. I've been on that side, 1087 00:52:52.119 --> 00:52:53.960 you know. But the point is I don't need to 1088 00:52:54.000 --> 00:52:56.119 prove it anymore because it's been proven to me, you know. 1089 00:52:56.199 --> 00:52:59.679 And and when things like this happen, people who it's 1090 00:52:59.679 --> 00:53:03.239 happened to understand that, oh yeah, when you're on that 1091 00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.639 journey going towards where you're supposed to be or whatever 1092 00:53:06.679 --> 00:53:09.480 that is, things just present themselves to you and they'll 1093 00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:13.000 open up, the sky will open up like it's crazy 1094 00:53:13.119 --> 00:53:18.239 and literally, yeah exactly, and it'll show you synchronicity is that. 1095 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:20.920 That you just go, oh, I got one today for you. Oh, 1096 00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:23.480 and I pick up my phone at nine thirty three 1097 00:53:23.480 --> 00:53:25.199 as I'm about to show you this. It's just been 1098 00:53:25.239 --> 00:53:28.239 telling you, yeah, but you saw the thirty three, right, Okay, 1099 00:53:28.239 --> 00:53:30.480 I can't confirm. So for days I've been telling you 1100 00:53:30.559 --> 00:53:35.480 like thirty three and uh uh sometimes eleven thirty three 1101 00:53:35.519 --> 00:53:38.800 is my favorite combination of numbers. When I dropped you 1102 00:53:38.800 --> 00:53:42.800 off to get your hair cut, I left the parking 1103 00:53:42.840 --> 00:53:44.320 lot and I went to go get you know, to 1104 00:53:44.440 --> 00:53:46.360 the store, and look at the car that was in 1105 00:53:46.400 --> 00:53:48.000 front of me. I'm not gonna flash the camera. You 1106 00:53:48.039 --> 00:53:49.400 can read the number, but I don't want to read, 1107 00:53:49.400 --> 00:53:54.559 you know, the letters. Yeah, right, for privacy. Look, Oh yeah, 1108 00:53:54.960 --> 00:53:58.159 thirty three three three zero zero. I see a lot 1109 00:53:58.280 --> 00:54:01.639 of three threes in things, but it's like, you know, 1110 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.679 it's it's it's cool, but this is pretty. This is 1111 00:54:04.800 --> 00:54:09.719 literally a numerology. This is literally just thirty three zero zero. 1112 00:54:09.840 --> 00:54:11.360 So I was like, huh, it's like when I when 1113 00:54:11.400 --> 00:54:14.000 I got here the day the day before I got here, 1114 00:54:14.280 --> 00:54:16.960 I texted you, well, no, it was the day that 1115 00:54:17.000 --> 00:54:20.559 I got here. I was driving to the airport and 1116 00:54:20.920 --> 00:54:25.440 I was in back of an suv. Oh yeah, yeah, 1117 00:54:25.480 --> 00:54:27.400 and to the right of that SUV is a mac truck. 1118 00:54:28.199 --> 00:54:33.079 The mac truck. The name of the company was Stargate, 1119 00:54:34.800 --> 00:54:37.159 and the car in front of me was a Honda CRV. 1120 00:54:37.800 --> 00:54:38.079 Yeah. 1121 00:54:38.199 --> 00:54:42.320 A CRV in remote viewing at Stargate stands for Coordinate 1122 00:54:42.320 --> 00:54:47.920 Remote Viewing. It's what they practiced at Stargate. Crv' that's 1123 00:54:47.960 --> 00:54:51.639 what they call it. So I'm sitting behind Stargate and 1124 00:54:51.719 --> 00:54:54.159 CRV and I'm and I'm driving. I'm trying to like 1125 00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:56.119 snap pictures of these things to send them in the 1126 00:54:56.119 --> 00:54:59.039 group because this is insane, Like that's a crazy. 1127 00:54:58.880 --> 00:55:01.920 Well if that wasn't crazy off, then you land in 1128 00:55:02.000 --> 00:55:06.039 Philly and who's chilling right outside on the the president? 1129 00:55:06.079 --> 00:55:08.440 Oh yeah, the president, yeah, Biden. 1130 00:55:08.599 --> 00:55:13.480 Biden and I were both doing a layover in Philly. Yeah, seriously. 1131 00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:15.639 There was like a presidential like fleet. 1132 00:55:16.000 --> 00:55:21.079 Yeah yeah, three hirks, three like like you know the 1133 00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:25.400 planes that have yeah exactly, and then like three helicopters, 1134 00:55:25.400 --> 00:55:26.519 giant helicopters, like. 1135 00:55:26.519 --> 00:55:29.519 A ton of like cars, yeah, fleet of cars. It 1136 00:55:29.559 --> 00:55:32.440 was him flying through, which is it's funny because it's 1137 00:55:32.480 --> 00:55:34.519 like how often do you see that. Let's raise our 1138 00:55:34.559 --> 00:55:39.599 hand if it's been at least one time once or twice. Yeah, never, 1139 00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:42.599 you know what I'm saying, Like ever, and it's just crazy. 1140 00:55:42.599 --> 00:55:43.840 You know, you go to the stargate and then you 1141 00:55:43.880 --> 00:55:45.920 see the president, which is you know, it's it's it 1142 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.920 seems irrelevant, but it's still crazy, you know. 1143 00:55:49.320 --> 00:55:51.519 And I was there and that layover, I had a 1144 00:55:51.559 --> 00:55:54.039 forty minute layover. Yeah, and the gate that I was 1145 00:55:54.119 --> 00:55:56.280 at was the same gate that I had to take 1146 00:55:57.039 --> 00:55:59.039 for it was the same plane. I was laid over 1147 00:55:59.159 --> 00:56:01.480 on the same plane, same gate, and it was right 1148 00:56:01.519 --> 00:56:02.360 in front of that gate. 1149 00:56:02.559 --> 00:56:02.719 You know. 1150 00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.039 Had it been on the other side that airport and Philly, 1151 00:56:05.039 --> 00:56:06.719 I wouldn't have seen that. So I was like right there, 1152 00:56:06.719 --> 00:56:07.800 and I was like, that's kind of cool. 1153 00:56:08.000 --> 00:56:10.400 Yeah, but yeah, I. 1154 00:56:10.320 --> 00:56:11.639 Mean there's a lot of things like that when you 1155 00:56:11.639 --> 00:56:14.519 start paying attention to it and all it does, and 1156 00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:17.000 you know, anybody could say, well that doesn't master just 1157 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.760 a coincidence and all this stuff, and like, yeah, okay, 1158 00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:22.239 but all it does is for me, it gives me 1159 00:56:22.280 --> 00:56:25.119 this weird little confirmation that I'm on the right path 1160 00:56:25.159 --> 00:56:28.920 and that attitude shift that happens in my life, right 1161 00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:34.480 because I interpreted this as a sign changes my attitude 1162 00:56:34.519 --> 00:56:39.599 towards my day or my decisions, which then affects the 1163 00:56:39.639 --> 00:56:41.360 rest of my life. You see where I'm going with this. 1164 00:56:41.960 --> 00:56:44.679 So this whole idea of like even manifesting or the 1165 00:56:44.760 --> 00:56:48.440 idea of you know, being on that path or whatever 1166 00:56:49.199 --> 00:56:53.760 is it's all about how you interpret your reality. Because 1167 00:56:53.760 --> 00:56:55.800 if you interpret your we can both be looking at 1168 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.239 the same thing and you could be interpreting something negative 1169 00:56:59.280 --> 00:57:01.679 from it and I could be interpreting something positive from it. 1170 00:57:02.000 --> 00:57:05.239 But we're staring at objectively the same thing, right, This 1171 00:57:05.320 --> 00:57:09.960 thing is objectively what it is, but we're interpreting different realities. 1172 00:57:10.039 --> 00:57:12.800 And because I'm interpreting my reality in a way that 1173 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:17.119 I'm seeing signs and seeing these synchronicities now making decisions 1174 00:57:17.159 --> 00:57:20.000 based on that that are affecting me positively and giving 1175 00:57:20.039 --> 00:57:22.360 me more reinforcement that this is a thing, and it's 1176 00:57:22.440 --> 00:57:26.559 leading me down this road of new discovery, constant adventure, 1177 00:57:27.360 --> 00:57:31.199 joyous moments, you know, seeing the silver lining this type 1178 00:57:31.199 --> 00:57:36.280 of deal. It's improving my life in every way, from 1179 00:57:36.280 --> 00:57:40.280 physical to mental, to emotional and spiritual every way. And 1180 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:43.960 so although people will be like, that's a coincidence, you 1181 00:57:43.960 --> 00:57:47.880 can say that's coincidence and you're right, And that's the 1182 00:57:47.920 --> 00:57:50.400 whole thing, you know, if you think it's if you 1183 00:57:50.400 --> 00:57:52.719 think you can or if you think you can't, you're right. 1184 00:57:53.639 --> 00:57:55.559 I wrote down something about the subconscious. 1185 00:57:55.760 --> 00:57:59.119 I'm trying to get my journal out here, but that 1186 00:57:59.199 --> 00:58:01.280 kind of touches on the something I like to talk 1187 00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:04.400 about a lot is the more you think you're lucky, 1188 00:58:04.440 --> 00:58:05.320 the luckier you are. 1189 00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:05.840 Of course. 1190 00:58:05.960 --> 00:58:08.599 Yeah, yeah, and we've we've gone down a luck rabbit 1191 00:58:08.639 --> 00:58:11.079 hole many times, and that's my fault. But I just 1192 00:58:11.239 --> 00:58:13.840 love because you're absolutely right in my opinion, and I 1193 00:58:13.880 --> 00:58:16.079 love thinking about it that way. 1194 00:58:16.639 --> 00:58:19.079 It's just an attitude shift, yeah, you know. And and 1195 00:58:19.119 --> 00:58:21.360 if you want to look at that scientifically and be like, well, 1196 00:58:21.400 --> 00:58:24.760 you're just pretending you're positive or whatever, that is, like, okay, yeah, 1197 00:58:24.800 --> 00:58:27.559 whatever you say is true, and we'll just leave with that. 1198 00:58:28.119 --> 00:58:30.239 So if you want to say, oh, it's coincidence, you're right. 1199 00:58:30.320 --> 00:58:31.880 But it's one of the Hermetic principles. 1200 00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:34.440 It's like the first Hermetic principles that everything is mental, 1201 00:58:34.840 --> 00:58:37.880 and so if you have a mentally positive attitude, everything's 1202 00:58:37.920 --> 00:58:38.679 going to be positive. 1203 00:58:38.800 --> 00:58:40.599 Correct, Well, it's. 1204 00:58:40.639 --> 00:58:43.400 Yeah, and and and even uh, you know, even a 1205 00:58:43.440 --> 00:58:46.920 negative where someone else would like you know, you see 1206 00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:50.440 something like, oh, I fell off my bike. Somebody sees 1207 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.360 that as a negative, you know, but somebody in the 1208 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:53.440 right mind state might be. 1209 00:58:53.440 --> 00:58:54.840 Like, well, this is learning. 1210 00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:57.320 What can you learn from this exactly? And it becomes 1211 00:58:57.320 --> 00:59:00.159 a positive. So it's it's it's not like it's it's 1212 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:02.440 not like somebody is lucky. It's just that they see 1213 00:59:02.559 --> 00:59:04.199 luck differently, or maybe. 1214 00:59:03.920 --> 00:59:06.679 Don't go down the hill backwards on your bike, say 1215 00:59:06.719 --> 00:59:10.159 a subconscious Right, I'm sorry, I'm struggling with my voice here. 1216 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:13.679 But you know my backgrounds in psychology, that's my degree, 1217 00:59:14.079 --> 00:59:16.320 and you know, we learn about subconscious and how it 1218 00:59:16.360 --> 00:59:19.679 affects human behavior and things like that, and they understand 1219 00:59:19.719 --> 00:59:25.400 that of our waking life behavior is driven by the subconscious, 1220 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:34.159 which is profound. Right. That's that's the majority of our thoughts, emotions, desires, choices, 1221 00:59:34.480 --> 00:59:38.760 intentions are informed by this subtle part of our psyche 1222 00:59:38.760 --> 00:59:42.960 that we don't even perceive unless we meditate, right, or 1223 00:59:43.039 --> 00:59:47.639 you know, use psychedelics. But but the point is, okay, 1224 00:59:47.880 --> 00:59:49.880 so I think it has something to do with like 1225 00:59:49.920 --> 00:59:54.400 the subconscious, right where you believe so strongly you're getting 1226 00:59:54.440 --> 00:59:57.000 signs or you're lucky or whatever, and it's beginning to 1227 00:59:57.039 --> 01:00:01.400 now inform your decisions. It's like new he's beginning to believe. 1228 01:00:01.519 --> 01:00:03.800 So someone could say, well, you know, it doesn't work 1229 01:00:03.840 --> 01:00:06.079 like that. It doesn't matter. The subconscious works like that. 1230 01:00:06.519 --> 01:00:08.599 And I wrote on what Joe mcmonaga said when we 1231 01:00:08.599 --> 01:00:11.760 were sitting right beside him, and he said, the ego 1232 01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:15.159 is the bad part of the mind. The subconscious mind 1233 01:00:15.239 --> 01:00:18.760 knows everything. Take my word for it. M mmmm. I 1234 01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:19.719 thought that was powerful. 1235 01:00:19.840 --> 01:00:25.440 Yeah, it does know everything, literally everything. Yeah, I often. 1236 01:00:26.239 --> 01:00:30.199 You know, one trip that I'm really like sort of 1237 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:34.079 like on right now with my brain is you know, 1238 01:00:34.320 --> 01:00:37.000 treating my brain as an organ and not as the 1239 01:00:37.039 --> 01:00:42.320 decision maker. And it is really really crazy how you 1240 01:00:42.360 --> 01:00:47.440 can how you can separate yourself from your physical brain 1241 01:00:47.920 --> 01:00:51.519 and from your heart and from your gut. These things 1242 01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:54.880 will make decisions for you if you let them, because 1243 01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:58.079 they're in survival mode. Your physical body is able to 1244 01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:02.519 survive without your consciousness. It will make decisions based on survival. 1245 01:01:03.159 --> 01:01:05.440 Your brain's going to say, don't go to the dentist 1246 01:01:05.599 --> 01:01:08.360 because it hurts and it's scary, you know, but you 1247 01:01:08.360 --> 01:01:10.360 have to override that, you know, you do. You have 1248 01:01:10.400 --> 01:01:11.760 to be like no, no, it's good and you and you 1249 01:01:11.880 --> 01:01:15.039 and you're you're in conflict with your own brain, Like, 1250 01:01:15.920 --> 01:01:18.880 how can you be in conflict with something if you're 1251 01:01:18.920 --> 01:01:22.920 the thing? No, that must mean there's two things within me, right, 1252 01:01:22.960 --> 01:01:24.920 otherwise I'd always be in agreement with myself. 1253 01:01:25.199 --> 01:01:26.840 There's two wolves within me, of. 1254 01:01:26.719 --> 01:01:28.280 Course, Yeah, and there is. 1255 01:01:28.519 --> 01:01:31.440 Yeah, it was ironical reference. I'm not sure it's like 1256 01:01:31.480 --> 01:01:33.119 which one do you feed? You know? Yeah? 1257 01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:36.079 But that that is the truth, right, And so what 1258 01:01:36.119 --> 01:01:38.119 does your brain do the second your you know, and 1259 01:01:38.159 --> 01:01:40.400 your brain doesn't think about the lovely car ride on 1260 01:01:40.440 --> 01:01:42.920 the way the dentist, doesn't think about the receptionist who's 1261 01:01:42.920 --> 01:01:45.000 going to be nice and bubbly, and doesn't think about 1262 01:01:45.000 --> 01:01:47.639 the you know, the feeling afterwards of having to clean 1263 01:01:47.679 --> 01:01:49.440 mouth and all that and like that. No, it just 1264 01:01:49.480 --> 01:01:51.800 thinks of the drills and the cavities and the bad things. Right, 1265 01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:53.960 But after you're done, what does your brain do? The 1266 01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:57.039 first thing your brain does, Oh, we should have done 1267 01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:00.320 that a long time ago. Yeah, or you're like, yeah, brain, 1268 01:02:00.559 --> 01:02:04.599 I know. And so you know, when you can realize that, 1269 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:06.920 you can realize that you can retrain your brain for everything. 1270 01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:10.360 So if you can override your brain, your heart, your 1271 01:02:10.400 --> 01:02:13.239 stomach not saying don't listen, it's information, but they're in 1272 01:02:13.280 --> 01:02:15.880 survival mode. Your heart's not trying to get broken, your 1273 01:02:15.880 --> 01:02:18.360 stomach's not trying to go hungry, and your brain's not 1274 01:02:18.400 --> 01:02:21.400 trying to not trying to change because it's very comfortable 1275 01:02:21.440 --> 01:02:25.000 with this reality if you let your brain control your decisions. 1276 01:02:25.920 --> 01:02:28.880 So the way that I think the brain works, the 1277 01:02:28.880 --> 01:02:32.880 brain creates time. Time does not exist outside your brain. 1278 01:02:33.679 --> 01:02:36.960 Time is non existing outside your brain. Your brain creates 1279 01:02:37.000 --> 01:02:40.800 time so that it knows how to survive. So it says, 1280 01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:44.800 the past exists, let's go back and reevaluate so it 1281 01:02:44.840 --> 01:02:48.840 doesn't happen again. Let's relive these terrible traumas that cringe 1282 01:02:48.880 --> 01:02:52.039 you out. Let's do all this while you're sleeping, while 1283 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:53.880 you're in bed at night, because we've got nothing else 1284 01:02:53.880 --> 01:02:55.800 to do. So let's relive this just so we don't 1285 01:02:55.800 --> 01:02:57.840 get hurt in the future. And then it goes to 1286 01:02:57.880 --> 01:03:00.760 the future and it says, well, let's relive nine different 1287 01:03:00.800 --> 01:03:04.079 alternate realities that will never happen, just in case they happen, 1288 01:03:04.159 --> 01:03:06.000 you know, so we can prepare and we don't get hurt. 1289 01:03:06.039 --> 01:03:08.280 And like, there's this whole and it's and so what 1290 01:03:08.360 --> 01:03:11.679 is that? So it's time. Without time, fear doesn't exist. 1291 01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:16.000 Fear is solely based in time. Point Yeah, so your 1292 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:19.400 brain creates time and because of time, it's fear. All 1293 01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:22.719 fear is is time based. It's anticipation, it's regret, it's 1294 01:03:22.960 --> 01:03:25.239 it's all these things that exist in time. How do 1295 01:03:25.320 --> 01:03:27.400 you stop fear? How do you stop time? 1296 01:03:28.239 --> 01:03:30.000 Present? Being the present? Do you know about? 1297 01:03:30.039 --> 01:03:31.599 How do you being the present? You shut your brain 1298 01:03:31.639 --> 01:03:34.800 off and you let your consciousness decide. You get away 1299 01:03:34.840 --> 01:03:36.880 from these organs that are trying to survive, and all 1300 01:03:36.880 --> 01:03:38.800 of a sudden, you're not projecting, you're not living in 1301 01:03:38.800 --> 01:03:41.519 the future, You're not fearful anymore. Your decisions are are 1302 01:03:41.559 --> 01:03:46.039 based on you know, your your current situation. And now 1303 01:03:46.119 --> 01:03:48.760 you're in training your brain. You're creating new neural pathways. 1304 01:03:49.119 --> 01:03:51.079 Your decisions are going to be more sound. Your brain's 1305 01:03:51.159 --> 01:03:54.800 actually going to adapt eventually and come back and be like, 1306 01:03:55.159 --> 01:03:56.960 this is the decision we do want to go to 1307 01:03:57.039 --> 01:03:59.880 the dentist because now we're aware it feels good. And 1308 01:04:00.159 --> 01:04:02.960 so you're training that brand to create neu neural pathways 1309 01:04:03.320 --> 01:04:07.679 and effectively using your consciousness to change the way your 1310 01:04:07.800 --> 01:04:11.599 organs behave and that is what will help you, you know, 1311 01:04:11.719 --> 01:04:16.239 grow progress and avoid you know, long stints of depression 1312 01:04:16.239 --> 01:04:18.159 and all this stuff, because you'll be able to just 1313 01:04:18.360 --> 01:04:19.320 override that. 1314 01:04:19.320 --> 01:04:22.760 That's alchemy. Yeah, exactly, that's exactly right. Do you know 1315 01:04:22.800 --> 01:04:27.599 about like the saturn myth? No, okay, So Saturn as 1316 01:04:27.639 --> 01:04:33.000 in like the the okay, So think of like Greek deity, 1317 01:04:33.199 --> 01:04:39.159 right yeah, Zeus okay, right, which would be Jupiter. Okay, 1318 01:04:39.199 --> 01:04:42.920 because you know the Greeks, the planets are named after 1319 01:04:43.000 --> 01:04:47.679 like Greek and Roman deities, or maybe the Romans named 1320 01:04:47.679 --> 01:04:49.039 them after the planets. I don't know. We did an 1321 01:04:49.039 --> 01:04:50.880 episode on it recently where we go into that and 1322 01:04:52.199 --> 01:04:57.320 the celestial body episode. But okay, So in the Greek version, 1323 01:04:57.360 --> 01:05:02.280 you have Chronos, yes, time time he is also the Titan, 1324 01:05:02.400 --> 01:05:06.719 he's uh, the father of Zeus. You have the symbolism 1325 01:05:06.800 --> 01:05:12.320 of like the scythe you know that's that. Uh what's 1326 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.000 the word harvest the crops, the time of harvest, you know, 1327 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:18.760 there's there's it's it's saturn in in in in the 1328 01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:25.960 Roman Saturn okay, which can also be syncretistically linked to 1329 01:05:26.880 --> 01:05:33.719 you could say uh rim Fan or uh Moloch or 1330 01:05:33.960 --> 01:05:38.280 b all in in like the Middle East or in Babylon, 1331 01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.360 in these different cultures, there's this common thread that when 1332 01:05:42.360 --> 01:05:44.559 you look at all of these different deities and how 1333 01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:48.719 they are thematically linked this dark and in the link 1334 01:05:48.760 --> 01:05:52.199 to fear, the length of time and in fear. Yeah, 1335 01:05:52.239 --> 01:05:56.559 and if you look in Egypt, they had set right 1336 01:05:56.639 --> 01:05:59.239 the darkness and then the Persians would call him Chaitan, 1337 01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:03.480 which is where Satan comes from. But there's there's always 1338 01:06:03.519 --> 01:06:07.599 this like dark force in these ancient mythologies. Chi Un 1339 01:06:07.719 --> 01:06:12.039 is another name for this force. My point is you 1340 01:06:12.159 --> 01:06:14.599 keep getting this sense. They call you know, the ancient 1341 01:06:14.599 --> 01:06:17.280 of days, father time, the grim Reaper, the sight, all 1342 01:06:17.280 --> 01:06:22.960 of this symbolism around this, this this dark force quote unquote, 1343 01:06:22.960 --> 01:06:25.840 in all these various mythologies, and it's time. It's the 1344 01:06:25.880 --> 01:06:29.679 concept of time is fear, Time is death. Time is 1345 01:06:29.760 --> 01:06:33.440 feared is entirely fear is entirely time based. Fear is 1346 01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:36.880 entirely dependent on and death. We die because of time. 1347 01:06:37.639 --> 01:06:41.239 Everything is finite in the material world except consciousness. 1348 01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:43.360 And our biggest fear is our is our fear of death, 1349 01:06:44.039 --> 01:06:47.280 and that is only available to us if we can 1350 01:06:47.320 --> 01:06:51.840 project in the future. You can't fear death in the present. Yeah, 1351 01:06:52.079 --> 01:06:53.800 that's true unless it's iminent. 1352 01:06:54.239 --> 01:06:56.039 But even then you're still projecting or you have a 1353 01:06:56.079 --> 01:06:57.840 phobia or something. You know. 1354 01:06:58.000 --> 01:07:00.960 But but again, what's a phobia? You're like, oh, I hope, 1355 01:07:00.960 --> 01:07:03.840 I don't get it right. You're projecting into the future, 1356 01:07:03.920 --> 01:07:07.280 that's right, creating a good scenario in the future that 1357 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.519 you die due to this scary thing. It's all time based. Fears, 1358 01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.400 all time based. Yeah, And so if you can shut 1359 01:07:14.440 --> 01:07:16.960 off the thing that makes time, you shut the thing 1360 01:07:16.960 --> 01:07:17.519 that makes fear. 1361 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:21.159 That's deep, dude. You have me thinking we were talking 1362 01:07:21.159 --> 01:07:24.159 about this earlier. You have me thinking about interstellar you 1363 01:07:24.199 --> 01:07:28.679 know what retro causality or whatever, where it's like you 1364 01:07:28.719 --> 01:07:34.239 can affect things with decisions at your current perspective of 1365 01:07:34.280 --> 01:07:36.679 the present across the past and future, and like, that's 1366 01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:39.239 really deep. But after going to Monroe, I'm like, I'm 1367 01:07:39.239 --> 01:07:42.639 convinced that this is possible. And after hearing your story, Yeah, 1368 01:07:42.679 --> 01:07:43.960 if you want to share or. 1369 01:07:44.079 --> 01:07:48.480 Sure, Yeah, I was. I was a meditation focus fifteen, 1370 01:07:48.519 --> 01:07:50.280 which is no time. I only found this out after. 1371 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:52.280 I only realized after that I was in a focus fifteen. 1372 01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.599 I rarely do focus fifteen. I usually do just stay 1373 01:07:54.639 --> 01:08:01.039 to ten, sometimes twelve, and I perceive myself above my 1374 01:08:01.480 --> 01:08:03.880 well not my car, above a car at night at 1375 01:08:03.920 --> 01:08:06.639 a gas station, warm lighting. It was like humet out 1376 01:08:07.400 --> 01:08:10.159 and I'm kind of above. I'm not out of body. 1377 01:08:10.199 --> 01:08:12.199 It's just like a perception thing. I'm like in a 1378 01:08:12.239 --> 01:08:14.599 corner kind of seeing this, and I feel like I'm 1379 01:08:14.639 --> 01:08:19.199 removed from this scene and I don't really recognize. I'm like, 1380 01:08:19.279 --> 01:08:21.079 what is this? And I'm trying to wonder, like what 1381 01:08:21.119 --> 01:08:23.560 am I looking at? And I see the car door open, 1382 01:08:23.600 --> 01:08:25.800 this during of meditation once again, and I see somebody 1383 01:08:25.800 --> 01:08:27.479 get out and I recognize it's my friend. But this 1384 01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:30.199 is from almost twenty years ago. Him and I went 1385 01:08:30.199 --> 01:08:32.640 into town and we got really drunk and it was 1386 01:08:32.680 --> 01:08:34.520 like three in the morning and he had been drinking, 1387 01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.920 I'd been drinking. And we decided, like we're still going 1388 01:08:36.960 --> 01:08:38.600 to drive home, and it was like a forty five 1389 01:08:38.600 --> 01:08:43.199 minute drive and it was completely irresponsible. We get to 1390 01:08:43.239 --> 01:08:44.680 a gas station and see I had a gas up, 1391 01:08:44.760 --> 01:08:47.640 so forty five minutes left to drive. I'm passing out. 1392 01:08:47.680 --> 01:08:50.399 I'm in like the passenger seat in the front and 1393 01:08:50.439 --> 01:08:53.560 I'm kind of like passing out and I'm thinking, man, I. 1394 01:08:53.600 --> 01:08:54.399 Really want to go to sleep. 1395 01:08:54.439 --> 01:08:55.680 I really want to pass out, but I don't want 1396 01:08:55.720 --> 01:08:58.199 leave my buddy hanging because he's driving, and that would 1397 01:08:58.239 --> 01:09:00.119 be you know, I wouldn't be a good friend. I've 1398 01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:02.760 been in that situation plenty of times where it's late 1399 01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:04.079 at night and I'm just going to stay up for 1400 01:09:04.079 --> 01:09:07.119 the driver, you know, and I'd expect the same somebody 1401 01:09:07.159 --> 01:09:10.079 would do that for me. So I'm sitting there, but 1402 01:09:10.119 --> 01:09:14.880 then I get this like feeling. All right, that man, 1403 01:09:15.760 --> 01:09:17.479 When I was a kid, I used to love sleeping 1404 01:09:17.479 --> 01:09:19.880 in the back seat, like curled up like a little 1405 01:09:19.920 --> 01:09:20.840 ball sleep in the back seat. 1406 01:09:20.840 --> 01:09:21.439 It was so fun. 1407 01:09:21.520 --> 01:09:24.399 It was like, oh, that nostalgic feeling is sleeping in 1408 01:09:24.399 --> 01:09:27.119 the back seat. It was really nice. And I remember 1409 01:09:27.159 --> 01:09:29.199 thinking to myself, how nice it would be if I 1410 01:09:29.279 --> 01:09:31.239 was just like that little baby sleeping in the back seat. 1411 01:09:31.840 --> 01:09:34.479 And I was like, you know, I shouldn't, but I 1412 01:09:34.520 --> 01:09:36.880 really like this feeling. Would I just really want it? 1413 01:09:36.920 --> 01:09:38.520 And I told my buddy I got out of the car. 1414 01:09:38.520 --> 01:09:39.720 I was like, Hey, I'm just going to pass out 1415 01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:40.960 the back seat. Are you cool with that? And he's 1416 01:09:40.960 --> 01:09:44.359 like yeah. So I get in the back seat, curl 1417 01:09:44.439 --> 01:09:48.039 up like a little baby, and again against my better judgment, 1418 01:09:48.560 --> 01:09:54.000 I did that knowing that we leave. He ends up 1419 01:09:54.079 --> 01:09:56.520 falling asleep in the wheel and we end up crashing. 1420 01:09:57.520 --> 01:10:00.800 We hit a guardrail on the down the highway and 1421 01:10:00.800 --> 01:10:03.039 there's a guardrail here. We hit the guardrail and we 1422 01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:06.520 kind of like slide into this like grassy area, and 1423 01:10:07.399 --> 01:10:10.279 I'm bouncing around like I have no seatbelt, but I'm 1424 01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:12.159 like completely limp, right, so i don't even get hurt. 1425 01:10:12.199 --> 01:10:13.920 I'm just like bouncing. I had no idea where I 1426 01:10:14.000 --> 01:10:15.159 was when it was happening. I thought I was in 1427 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:17.319 bed at home, Like it was very weird to wake 1428 01:10:17.399 --> 01:10:21.359 up to right, And I get out and go to 1429 01:10:21.399 --> 01:10:23.720 the side, and I see the engine exactly where I 1430 01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:26.479 was sitting. The engine of the car would have cut 1431 01:10:26.520 --> 01:10:28.800 me in half. It was exactly where I was. It 1432 01:10:28.800 --> 01:10:29.600 took up the whole seat. 1433 01:10:29.680 --> 01:10:30.800 It would have died immediately. 1434 01:10:31.399 --> 01:10:34.000 Oh, there would be nothing left. I would be completely flattened. 1435 01:10:34.000 --> 01:10:37.199 It was like it was insane. Yeah, And I was 1436 01:10:37.279 --> 01:10:40.079 kind of like WHOA, well, good thing I was in 1437 01:10:40.079 --> 01:10:42.640 the back seat, you know, like not really think anything 1438 01:10:42.640 --> 01:10:47.560 of it. So I realized in my meditation this was 1439 01:10:47.560 --> 01:10:50.479 that night I didn't ask for this. I didn't try 1440 01:10:50.479 --> 01:10:52.359 to meditate about this thing. This just I was just 1441 01:10:52.399 --> 01:10:53.840 looking and I was trying to decipher what this was. 1442 01:10:53.840 --> 01:10:56.000 And I saw my friend get out and I realized. 1443 01:10:55.720 --> 01:10:56.520 This was that night. 1444 01:10:57.359 --> 01:11:01.239 So now I'm there and I see the car from 1445 01:11:01.279 --> 01:11:03.720 the top. I don't really see myself, but I know 1446 01:11:03.800 --> 01:11:07.479 I'm in the front seat, and I'm like, okay, this 1447 01:11:07.520 --> 01:11:08.680 is where I get out. And I go in the 1448 01:11:08.680 --> 01:11:11.279 back seat and I'm kind of waiting. My buddy's gassing 1449 01:11:11.359 --> 01:11:14.239 up and I'm waiting, and I'm like, all right, well, 1450 01:11:14.760 --> 01:11:15.560 get in the back seat. 1451 01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:18.039 Let's go waiting. 1452 01:11:19.800 --> 01:11:23.000 All right, Okay, get in the back seat. And then 1453 01:11:23.039 --> 01:11:24.720 I start thinking to myself, oh, okay, maybe I have 1454 01:11:24.800 --> 01:11:29.159 to get in the back seat. You know, nothing's happening. 1455 01:11:30.119 --> 01:11:33.319 And then I go oh, and it dawns on me. 1456 01:11:35.359 --> 01:11:39.720 I start thinking about how comfortable it would be to 1457 01:11:39.760 --> 01:11:43.640 be a little baby sleeping in the back seat, like 1458 01:11:43.680 --> 01:11:46.560 when I was a kid, and I start feeling that 1459 01:11:47.239 --> 01:11:50.680 comfort of passing out in the back seat and being 1460 01:11:50.800 --> 01:11:54.680 so comfortable, and I start sending that to myself, and 1461 01:11:54.720 --> 01:11:56.880 all of a sudden, I see the door open and 1462 01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:59.840 I zoom out of this memory. And I get out 1463 01:11:59.880 --> 01:12:03.279 of my meditation. Now, the sci fi rd in me 1464 01:12:03.600 --> 01:12:06.960 is like, wait a second, did. 1465 01:12:06.800 --> 01:12:07.520 I just. 1466 01:12:09.399 --> 01:12:15.920 Send myself this message in the past to get in 1467 01:12:15.960 --> 01:12:19.000 the back seat and go to sleep. I think, yes, 1468 01:12:19.760 --> 01:12:23.399 I swear to you on everything. 1469 01:12:24.720 --> 01:12:25.279 To this day. 1470 01:12:25.920 --> 01:12:30.000 To this day, I don't know why I got in 1471 01:12:30.000 --> 01:12:33.720 the back seat. I never figured out why, because, like 1472 01:12:33.760 --> 01:12:37.159 I said, and I emphasize this, it goes against my 1473 01:12:37.199 --> 01:12:39.319 better judgment and I would never do that. 1474 01:12:39.479 --> 01:12:41.600 It just popped in your head and you're like, it 1475 01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:42.880 was more than that. It was like this. 1476 01:12:43.359 --> 01:12:45.960 It was overwhelmingly like calm and like, oh, I just 1477 01:12:46.039 --> 01:12:48.920 want that again. And I and that's what made me 1478 01:12:48.960 --> 01:12:51.960 go I would never do that. I would be like, yeah, whatever, No, 1479 01:12:52.079 --> 01:12:56.840 I'm gonna stay here with my friend. And yeah. So 1480 01:12:57.000 --> 01:13:00.239 like when this happened, I was like, get the hell 1481 01:13:00.279 --> 01:13:02.840 out of here. Like the like I said, the sci 1482 01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:04.359 fi nerd in me is like, this. 1483 01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:07.720 Is such a cool story plot. This is so freaking cool. 1484 01:13:07.479 --> 01:13:10.960 Man, And uh, I often wonder now I told you, 1485 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:13.000 I like, you know, would have been cool to look 1486 01:13:13.000 --> 01:13:14.720 out the window and see an orb or something. 1487 01:13:15.479 --> 01:13:18.199 Well, hey, I mean, let's let's let's do another one. 1488 01:13:18.279 --> 01:13:21.720 So we saw those incredible things at the beach last night, 1489 01:13:22.279 --> 01:13:25.199 and then we're at lunch today and you're just like, 1490 01:13:25.680 --> 01:13:29.399 oh my god, I just remember my dream. Yes, Yeah, 1491 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:35.560 that was wild. Yeah, what were we talking about dreams? Yeah, 1492 01:13:35.600 --> 01:13:37.840 we were talking about about dreams. We were talking about dreams. 1493 01:13:37.640 --> 01:13:39.720 And it triggered my dream memory. Yeah, and I was, 1494 01:13:41.239 --> 01:13:43.319 I was, I mean, I had a dream it was 1495 01:13:43.479 --> 01:13:47.000 last night and it was like a movie where I 1496 01:13:47.159 --> 01:13:49.640 found it a UFO, a flying saucer. It was hovering 1497 01:13:49.680 --> 01:13:51.199 off the ground. It might have been like twenty feet 1498 01:13:51.239 --> 01:13:54.840 in diameter thirty feet silver disk and I got in 1499 01:13:55.800 --> 01:13:58.560 and I like stole it with my mind and I 1500 01:13:58.600 --> 01:14:00.880 remember like there was like CIA operatives that were like 1501 01:14:00.920 --> 01:14:03.760 looking for me, and I just took off with it. Anyways, 1502 01:14:03.760 --> 01:14:05.920 I ended up coming back releasing. And the reason I 1503 01:14:05.920 --> 01:14:07.039 say it was like a movie because there was like 1504 01:14:07.119 --> 01:14:10.520 letterboxes on both sides during this. I felt like it 1505 01:14:10.560 --> 01:14:14.000 was yeah, you know what I felt like. Have you 1506 01:14:14.000 --> 01:14:17.279 ever seen have you ever seen Flight of the Navigator? Okay, 1507 01:14:17.600 --> 01:14:19.920 Flight of the Navigator is a great classic in the eighties, 1508 01:14:20.079 --> 01:14:27.840 and they actually filmed that at the Kennedy Space Station. Really, yeah, 1509 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.079 parts of it where they were they housed a UFO 1510 01:14:30.199 --> 01:14:33.560 there cool, and this ufo was sentient, like it had 1511 01:14:33.560 --> 01:14:36.720 its own AI, and then this kid could interface with 1512 01:14:36.760 --> 01:14:37.399 it psychically. 1513 01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:38.840 It was like a whole thing. It was a cool movie. 1514 01:14:38.840 --> 01:14:40.640 Have you ever heard any videos of my dad talking 1515 01:14:40.640 --> 01:14:44.199 about being inside these things? You know, he's talked to 1516 01:14:44.199 --> 01:14:49.159 me a little bit about them, Yeah, but not yeah, no, yeah, 1517 01:14:49.279 --> 01:14:50.880 I mean that's that's not the first time I've heard 1518 01:14:50.880 --> 01:14:52.439 that too, you see if I can find your video 1519 01:14:52.600 --> 01:14:53.159 that cool. 1520 01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:56.000 Yeah, And that's what I was doing. I was kind 1521 01:14:56.000 --> 01:14:58.279 of like interfacing psychically with it. When I came back, 1522 01:14:59.720 --> 01:15:01.960 it was like the end of the movie and I 1523 01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:04.560 realized that all my close friends were actually aliens and 1524 01:15:04.600 --> 01:15:07.399 they were like turning back into aliens one by one, 1525 01:15:07.760 --> 01:15:09.039 and I was like, oh my god. It was like 1526 01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:10.880 this revelatory thing where they were like. 1527 01:15:11.279 --> 01:15:12.159 Yeah, you were. 1528 01:15:13.560 --> 01:15:16.159 We were here all along and we needed your help 1529 01:15:16.359 --> 01:15:18.800 and now you're helping us. And it was just like 1530 01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:21.119 that was it. It was super weird. I don't know 1531 01:15:21.159 --> 01:15:21.560 what it was. 1532 01:15:21.720 --> 01:15:22.800 It's obviously symbolic. 1533 01:15:23.199 --> 01:15:25.279 I feel like it was. I feel like there is 1534 01:15:25.319 --> 01:15:27.760 something there, maybe just sub consciously. But it was a 1535 01:15:27.800 --> 01:15:30.319 wild dream it I thought I watched a movie I 1536 01:15:30.359 --> 01:15:32.520 still have now. Like when it triggered, I was like, oh, 1537 01:15:32.560 --> 01:15:33.840 these are like movie images. 1538 01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:37.800 It's stills. That's really cool. It's symbolic. I think that 1539 01:15:38.039 --> 01:15:41.039 you received information from what you saw yesterday, so I 1540 01:15:41.039 --> 01:15:46.079 would be honest with you. They give information through the light. 1541 01:15:47.640 --> 01:15:51.640 Some people in ufology might call this inculcation, where it's 1542 01:15:51.680 --> 01:15:55.079 known that when you look at UFOs you receive downloads 1543 01:15:55.159 --> 01:15:57.680 or information. But what we know is that they communicate 1544 01:15:57.720 --> 01:16:00.520 through the light. We know that there are NASA's studies 1545 01:16:01.079 --> 01:16:04.960 that have been shared with us where the sun emits 1546 01:16:05.239 --> 01:16:10.439 a particular green light wave. I'm doing a wave here, 1547 01:16:10.760 --> 01:16:16.119 a green light wave that encodes the information for all life. 1548 01:16:17.119 --> 01:16:20.119 You know, we know that information is transmitted through light, 1549 01:16:20.439 --> 01:16:21.960 So I don't think it's that crazy to think that 1550 01:16:22.000 --> 01:16:26.199 these intelligent light beings could just, you know, send information 1551 01:16:26.319 --> 01:16:29.359 through your optic nerves or whatever you want to try 1552 01:16:29.399 --> 01:16:31.920 to justify how they do it. But I'm willing to 1553 01:16:31.960 --> 01:16:35.319 bet that there was some sort of slam packed subconscious 1554 01:16:35.359 --> 01:16:39.319 symbolism in that dream for you to unpack into process 1555 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:42.199 that will help you going forward. And you know, I 1556 01:16:44.039 --> 01:16:47.359 cannot read your mind. I cannot tell you why something 1557 01:16:47.439 --> 01:16:53.119 is significant to you. Yeah, but the psychoanalysis, you know, 1558 01:16:53.279 --> 01:16:59.119 dream study, psychology in me. You know, if we're looking 1559 01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:03.520 at psychology aspect of this, I take it as you know, 1560 01:17:03.600 --> 01:17:06.079 my theory would be like, maybe because of what you 1561 01:17:06.159 --> 01:17:09.439 saw yesterday and how profound it was, that you now 1562 01:17:09.520 --> 01:17:14.199 have initiated yourself, or rather you have been initiated even 1563 01:17:14.239 --> 01:17:18.039 deeper into level of contact with these beings because before 1564 01:17:18.079 --> 01:17:20.520 it was just you know, it was it was study. 1565 01:17:20.920 --> 01:17:25.479 Now it's experience. Yeah, And my take on that is that, 1566 01:17:26.640 --> 01:17:29.640 you know, maybe it was the beings or the entities 1567 01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:34.840 in a very silly symbolic way, showing you that they 1568 01:17:34.880 --> 01:17:39.199 need help spreading the message that they appear to you, 1569 01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:42.239 not just for you to enjoy on your own. Sure, 1570 01:17:42.399 --> 01:17:44.520 enjoy it, but what are you going to do with it? 1571 01:17:45.039 --> 01:17:48.479 You're gonna share it? Yeah, that's why you got the 1572 01:17:48.520 --> 01:17:51.239 crazy sighting that of all the hundreds maybe you know 1573 01:17:51.279 --> 01:17:54.640 a thousand or more plus people that I've skywatched him 1574 01:17:54.960 --> 01:17:58.159 with in my life, you're definitely as far as the 1575 01:17:58.159 --> 01:18:00.960 intensity of experiences go, you're in like the top three 1576 01:18:01.039 --> 01:18:04.279 now one of the other one obviously not counting my 1577 01:18:04.399 --> 01:18:06.880 crew and my family. I'm talking about people who have 1578 01:18:07.000 --> 01:18:08.960 come to us from around the world. And then I 1579 01:18:08.960 --> 01:18:11.399 have another guy, Tom Barber. He's a very very good 1580 01:18:11.399 --> 01:18:15.319 friend of mine and he's the vocalist of my two 1581 01:18:15.600 --> 01:18:19.039 favorite bands, Chelsea Grin and Darko. He's seen him up 1582 01:18:19.039 --> 01:18:21.119 close with me, and I told him the same thing. 1583 01:18:21.159 --> 01:18:23.479 I'm like, dude, like this is crazy, you know, And 1584 01:18:23.520 --> 01:18:27.239 I see what's happened with him, happening with you. Now, 1585 01:18:28.079 --> 01:18:30.319 if you stay on this path, if you stay on 1586 01:18:30.359 --> 01:18:34.520 the path of truth and trying to with good intentions 1587 01:18:35.159 --> 01:18:38.600 share what you know and with the intention of trying 1588 01:18:38.600 --> 01:18:41.920 to help people understand and pull him along, you're going 1589 01:18:41.960 --> 01:18:44.159 to see the incredible blessings are going to come your way. 1590 01:18:45.800 --> 01:18:48.640 I believe that it's a pattern that we've seen. It's 1591 01:18:48.640 --> 01:18:50.600 a pattern that was told to us by the CIA 1592 01:18:50.720 --> 01:18:52.439 even Yeah. 1593 01:18:52.039 --> 01:18:56.600 Yep, yeah, they do no more than letting onto they yes, 1594 01:18:56.640 --> 01:18:56.920 they do. 1595 01:18:58.399 --> 01:19:01.239 I guess that's the whole overt part of it. Yeah, 1596 01:19:01.319 --> 01:19:04.680 they didn't tell us that. They said it a little differently. 1597 01:19:04.880 --> 01:19:09.000 They said that that people with level of contact as 1598 01:19:09.000 --> 01:19:15.199 severe as ours, usually after twelve years experienced like just 1599 01:19:15.439 --> 01:19:19.800 complete wind fall of blessings. Which is funny because twelve 1600 01:19:19.840 --> 01:19:21.640 years for us was twenty nineteen, which was then a 1601 01:19:21.680 --> 01:19:26.439 lot of stuff started rapidly changing for us. But interesting, 1602 01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:28.279 you know, forget the twelve year part. I've seen it 1603 01:19:28.319 --> 01:19:30.279 with my friends around me. Yea. You know that just 1604 01:19:30.319 --> 01:19:33.199 with the intention to share this thing that you know, 1605 01:19:33.720 --> 01:19:34.960 they go to the light and they stay on the 1606 01:19:34.960 --> 01:19:37.560 path of truth and of goodness and just do this 1607 01:19:37.640 --> 01:19:40.920 for the right reasons that the blessings come. And you 1608 01:19:40.920 --> 01:19:44.399 know you've already had a lot of blessings. Yeah, but 1609 01:19:44.479 --> 01:19:46.920 it's like, you know what's next? 1610 01:19:47.520 --> 01:19:51.239 Yeah, I mean, I'm I'm down to stay the course 1611 01:19:51.680 --> 01:19:54.720 and you know, keep asking questions and keep being curious, 1612 01:19:54.760 --> 01:20:00.680 but also taking time to reflect and really try and 1613 01:20:00.720 --> 01:20:01.800 digest what this. 1614 01:20:01.880 --> 01:20:02.399 Means for me. 1615 01:20:03.000 --> 01:20:06.079 Yeah, of course, you know, you know what it means 1616 01:20:06.079 --> 01:20:08.560 for other people. They'll make their own interpretations and this 1617 01:20:08.760 --> 01:20:10.720 maybe will be a small piece of the puzzle for them. 1618 01:20:11.319 --> 01:20:13.319 But for me, you know, this is my puzzle. This 1619 01:20:13.439 --> 01:20:15.720 is you know, what I'm trying to figure out, and 1620 01:20:15.720 --> 01:20:17.920 I have to I have to sit with that and 1621 01:20:17.920 --> 01:20:19.439 I have to think about what that means for me, 1622 01:20:19.520 --> 01:20:21.199 and I'm looking forward to that. 1623 01:20:21.359 --> 01:20:24.840 But the puzzle isn't complete without every little piece. And 1624 01:20:24.920 --> 01:20:26.880 if you are just a little piece, in your words, 1625 01:20:26.920 --> 01:20:29.720 not mine. Even if you are just a little piece, 1626 01:20:29.760 --> 01:20:32.840 and someone out there beingcoming aware of you and your 1627 01:20:32.920 --> 01:20:38.359 story and the things that you know, it's still significant. 1628 01:20:38.520 --> 01:20:41.439 I think it's how put off who put it this way. 1629 01:20:42.279 --> 01:20:45.840 But like he describes remote viewing being like this, but 1630 01:20:45.960 --> 01:20:48.359 I kind of see like even this phenomenon being like this, 1631 01:20:48.600 --> 01:20:52.560 where it's like taking a paper, you know, and covering 1632 01:20:52.600 --> 01:20:55.640 a window, and then you take a pen and you 1633 01:20:55.840 --> 01:20:59.960 poke through one hole. You're not sure what you're looking at. 1634 01:21:00.359 --> 01:21:02.359 Maybe it's a little bit of green, a bit of blue, 1635 01:21:02.680 --> 01:21:04.600 you know. So you got to poke another hole somewhere, 1636 01:21:05.680 --> 01:21:07.960 and now you see a little bit more of the picture. 1637 01:21:08.239 --> 01:21:11.399 They're not correlated necessarily, Maybe they are, you don't there's 1638 01:21:11.439 --> 01:21:13.159 another color, so you know, you're not sure, So you 1639 01:21:13.239 --> 01:21:17.039 poke again. And now the more holes that have been poked, 1640 01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:22.560 the more you can piece together the image. Will that 1641 01:21:22.720 --> 01:21:23.600 be a clear image? 1642 01:21:24.439 --> 01:21:25.119 Not all the time? 1643 01:21:26.039 --> 01:21:29.720 Will it be you know, Will you definitively, definitively have 1644 01:21:29.840 --> 01:21:33.880 an answer? Probably not, But will you be closer to 1645 01:21:34.039 --> 01:21:39.000 understanding something, closer than anyone who, closer than you've ever been. Absolutely, 1646 01:21:39.039 --> 01:21:41.800 And with every hole you poke you're going to get 1647 01:21:41.840 --> 01:21:44.119 a clearer picture of what this is, and it's going 1648 01:21:44.159 --> 01:21:46.640 to mean something a little bit more So. I think 1649 01:21:46.680 --> 01:21:48.720 it's just a matter of like, you know, keep poking. 1650 01:21:49.760 --> 01:21:54.239 Yeah, I mean that's well said, you know, but yeah, 1651 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:58.399 I just I didn't expect the conversation to go in 1652 01:21:58.520 --> 01:22:00.680 some of the ways that it did. Man. And I'm 1653 01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:03.800 really humbled that. Uh, you know, you've you've flew out 1654 01:22:03.840 --> 01:22:06.319 here from Canada and you know, turned down some other 1655 01:22:06.359 --> 01:22:09.680 amazing opportunities to be with us and you know, chat 1656 01:22:09.720 --> 01:22:12.920 on our humble little show. I mean, we're like amazing podcast. 1657 01:22:13.199 --> 01:22:14.359 Well I appreciate that, man. 1658 01:22:14.439 --> 01:22:14.600 Yeah. 1659 01:22:14.680 --> 01:22:18.720 And it's it's like it's not gonna uh, it's it's 1660 01:22:18.840 --> 01:22:24.479 not gonna go unnoticed by us, like or rather, let 1661 01:22:24.520 --> 01:22:26.920 me say that in a different way. I'm sure I 1662 01:22:27.000 --> 01:22:30.039 can speak for Alex and and me and and maybe 1663 01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:33.159 for Nick that like, it's it's just very humbling to consider, 1664 01:22:33.279 --> 01:22:35.560 like how busy your schedule is, and you know what 1665 01:22:35.680 --> 01:22:37.600 you've got going on, and he's let us in on 1666 01:22:37.680 --> 01:22:39.840 some of the things that he's you know, got going on, 1667 01:22:40.000 --> 01:22:43.039 and there's like a billion different tentacles of things that 1668 01:22:43.079 --> 01:22:44.880 are going on your path. You know, and like you 1669 01:22:44.960 --> 01:22:47.960 took your time out to come here and be with us, 1670 01:22:48.039 --> 01:22:50.039 and it's yeah, but this is part of it for me. 1671 01:22:50.600 --> 01:22:52.560 Yeah, this isn't This isn't a side quest. 1672 01:22:52.600 --> 01:22:56.960 This is the main quest stuff. King Arthur, that's that's 1673 01:22:57.000 --> 01:22:58.960 a king Arthur Shap I tell you, man, he's neo 1674 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.439 man like. Well, it's like I feel like MORPHI is 1675 01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:04.000 neo like as far as the phenomenon stuff, you know, 1676 01:23:04.079 --> 01:23:08.600 the contact part, but yeah, or Merlin and Arthur, Yeah, 1677 01:23:08.640 --> 01:23:09.760 that's a good one. And then I feel like in 1678 01:23:09.840 --> 01:23:11.840 other ways it's reversed. And you know, I have so 1679 01:23:12.079 --> 01:23:14.680 much to learn from you as far as like content 1680 01:23:14.800 --> 01:23:17.640 and videography and you know, maybe I could learn a 1681 01:23:17.680 --> 01:23:20.399 trick or too. Now I'm just kidding magic, I don't know, 1682 01:23:21.119 --> 01:23:22.800 but I do have to ask. I'm not going to 1683 01:23:22.840 --> 01:23:24.680 ask you to do some magic. Who maybe maybe maybe 1684 01:23:24.880 --> 01:23:27.319 Petrown will get a trick or too. But you have 1685 01:23:27.359 --> 01:23:30.239 your cards in your pocket, yes, but show them off. 1686 01:23:30.640 --> 01:23:32.840 Can we plug them? Yeah? I mean these ones you 1687 01:23:32.880 --> 01:23:35.640 can't get anymore. Well, oh really, but take the brand. Look, 1688 01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.720 he's got his own brand of cards. Yeah. They're amazing, dude, 1689 01:23:38.840 --> 01:23:43.680 They're so smooth, beautiful slide on them. Dude, they're beautiful. 1690 01:23:45.439 --> 01:23:49.159 I shouldn't check she a little bit that asmr y. 1691 01:23:49.279 --> 01:23:52.800 Yeah, dude, Oh my god, I just love there's there's 1692 01:23:52.880 --> 01:23:56.960 so sexy, dude. They're the polish and butter. Yeah. So 1693 01:23:57.319 --> 01:23:59.920 check out his store. What it's what first First? That's 1694 01:24:00.560 --> 01:24:04.119 first dot shop. Yeah, amazing merch. You guys probably have 1695 01:24:04.239 --> 01:24:07.399 noticed recently. I occasionally now I like the swap hats 1696 01:24:07.439 --> 01:24:10.399 on episodes and try to wear like, you know, different things, 1697 01:24:10.439 --> 01:24:12.760 But like lately I've been rocking this hat that says first. 1698 01:24:12.920 --> 01:24:15.319 That's my boy Chris. He hooked me up when we 1699 01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:17.039 got back from in row. We sent each other a 1700 01:24:17.079 --> 01:24:19.520 little goodie bag and he got some Oh can. 1701 01:24:19.479 --> 01:24:21.920 I tell you guys, Yeah, these guys got some fire 1702 01:24:22.000 --> 01:24:22.680 merch coming out. 1703 01:24:23.239 --> 01:24:27.439 Oh hey, that's the first they're hearing of this, but 1704 01:24:27.600 --> 01:24:27.880 thank you. 1705 01:24:28.520 --> 01:24:31.520 Yeah, that's amazing. He's been secretly rocking it. 1706 01:24:31.600 --> 01:24:33.119 And I was like, where did you get that shirt? 1707 01:24:33.159 --> 01:24:34.600 That's it? He's like we made it. It was like, 1708 01:24:34.720 --> 01:24:37.079 good out of here. I've been bugging him about the shirt. No, 1709 01:24:37.239 --> 01:24:39.640 you're going to get one. It's just it's not it's 1710 01:24:39.960 --> 01:24:42.159 it's a sample, you know, like it's we're an R 1711 01:24:42.199 --> 01:24:47.199 and D. It looks good. You will get one. I probably, yeah, 1712 01:24:47.359 --> 01:24:49.119 you'll be the first on the line. Man, appreciate it. 1713 01:24:50.119 --> 01:24:53.479 You're gonna get one in the mill right away. Is 1714 01:24:53.479 --> 01:24:55.880 there anything that you haven't got on your chest or 1715 01:24:55.960 --> 01:24:56.560 off your chest? 1716 01:24:56.640 --> 01:25:03.039 Rather, I mean, we can talk about We've talked about 1717 01:25:03.039 --> 01:25:04.399 whatever you want to talk about. We can talk about 1718 01:25:04.399 --> 01:25:05.359 some of the out of body stuff. 1719 01:25:05.520 --> 01:25:07.760 I was just about to ask that, what's it like 1720 01:25:07.840 --> 01:25:11.479 going out of body? It was insane. It was insane. 1721 01:25:11.520 --> 01:25:13.279 The first I mean, the first two times that happened 1722 01:25:13.399 --> 01:25:15.840 was involuntary, so it was very terrifying. It was still 1723 01:25:15.880 --> 01:25:18.880 scary afterwards, but not as scary because I knew what 1724 01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:23.039 was happening to me. But the first time and second 1725 01:25:23.079 --> 01:25:24.680 time that it happened was back to back, two nights 1726 01:25:24.680 --> 01:25:26.520 in a row, and I documented this. I made a whole, 1727 01:25:27.319 --> 01:25:30.159 you know, video series on what happened to me. But essentially, 1728 01:25:30.359 --> 01:25:33.239 I was out of my body, three feet above my 1729 01:25:33.319 --> 01:25:36.800 bed in a lucid state, turn around and see myself, 1730 01:25:36.920 --> 01:25:39.680 you know, sleeping, and it was the most terrifying thing 1731 01:25:39.720 --> 01:25:42.359 I've ever seen in my life. I would have rather 1732 01:25:42.479 --> 01:25:46.840 seen a monster than see myself and I don't know 1733 01:25:46.960 --> 01:25:48.520 how else to explain that, and people are like, well, 1734 01:25:48.960 --> 01:25:52.000 I wouldn't have been scared. Like, dude, it's like if 1735 01:25:52.000 --> 01:25:54.560 I told you Ryan, turn around and. 1736 01:25:54.640 --> 01:25:57.239 Look at you, I could understand where you're going that went. 1737 01:25:57.439 --> 01:25:58.960 How like if I turn around right now and saw 1738 01:25:59.039 --> 01:25:59.760 me passed out? 1739 01:26:00.199 --> 01:26:02.199 Do you know scary? That's like I'm dead? 1740 01:26:02.760 --> 01:26:02.840 Right? 1741 01:26:03.000 --> 01:26:04.119 Yes, yeah, I get it. 1742 01:26:04.279 --> 01:26:04.560 It is. 1743 01:26:06.279 --> 01:26:07.079 Like groundbreaking. 1744 01:26:07.600 --> 01:26:09.720 I didn't understand that at first, but after thinking about it, 1745 01:26:09.800 --> 01:26:12.000 it's like, you know that actually, was that your first thought. 1746 01:26:13.279 --> 01:26:13.960 The dead thing? 1747 01:26:14.319 --> 01:26:14.560 Yeah? 1748 01:26:15.600 --> 01:26:19.680 No, not that I was dead, but that my soul 1749 01:26:20.600 --> 01:26:25.319 was out of my body. Okay, that maybe it wasn't 1750 01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:25.880 supposed to be. 1751 01:26:27.199 --> 01:26:27.880 That was scary. 1752 01:26:28.479 --> 01:26:30.600 I didn't really jump to the conclusion that I was 1753 01:26:30.640 --> 01:26:33.600 dead because I still felt like I was me. I 1754 01:26:33.640 --> 01:26:36.800 don't know if that makes sense, Like I think, if 1755 01:26:37.119 --> 01:26:41.239 you know that that's that might be actually a misconception 1756 01:26:41.359 --> 01:26:45.920 with people who you know die or whatever, because you 1757 01:26:46.039 --> 01:26:49.920 don't feel like you're dead. Yeah, all parts, all the 1758 01:26:50.119 --> 01:26:53.680 thoughts that I have are still me. I'm still here, 1759 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:56.720 but I'm my body's there, but I'm still here, so 1760 01:26:56.760 --> 01:26:58.800 I'm not I can't be dead, do you know what 1761 01:26:58.840 --> 01:27:00.880 I mean? Like it's a weird thing to think about. 1762 01:27:00.880 --> 01:27:04.920 Right, Well, the ego is still there, yeah, but the 1763 01:27:05.159 --> 01:27:06.239 physical body is not. 1764 01:27:06.640 --> 01:27:08.600 Yeah, the physical body is down there, and that's scary 1765 01:27:08.680 --> 01:27:10.479 to look at because it's like that thing's dead. 1766 01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:12.560 Yeah, you've also never seen anything before, you know, whatever 1767 01:27:12.600 --> 01:27:13.720 that is down there is limp. 1768 01:27:13.920 --> 01:27:17.640 I mean like kind of objectively speaking, the human body 1769 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:22.199 is weird and like weird to look at. Yeah, and yeah, yeah, 1770 01:27:22.239 --> 01:27:23.760 it's it's an interesting. 1771 01:27:23.439 --> 01:27:26.279 And seeing yourself in an unflattering way like that, Like 1772 01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:31.800 right you, Okay, have you ever seen yourself with your 1773 01:27:31.840 --> 01:27:32.319 eyes closed? 1774 01:27:35.159 --> 01:27:35.720 Do you know what I mean? 1775 01:27:35.760 --> 01:27:41.600 Think about that on a video, not in real life. Right, 1776 01:27:42.479 --> 01:27:45.600 I'm not laughing at you. I'm just like, you're absolutely correct. 1777 01:27:45.800 --> 01:27:46.640 I've never thought about it. 1778 01:27:46.760 --> 01:27:50.000 Like seeing that angle of you with your eyes closed 1779 01:27:50.039 --> 01:27:53.560 a very shocking thing to watch. It's not natural, you know, 1780 01:27:53.720 --> 01:27:56.680 so it scares the living crap out of you. Like 1781 01:27:56.800 --> 01:27:59.039 it's so scary and like made me panic and want 1782 01:27:59.039 --> 01:28:00.880 to get back to my body. And the second time 1783 01:28:00.960 --> 01:28:03.920 it happened, I got back to my body. 1784 01:28:03.920 --> 01:28:05.199 This is very scary things. 1785 01:28:05.239 --> 01:28:07.119 This is my body here and like like you know, 1786 01:28:07.319 --> 01:28:10.039 you're like you feel yourself going into your body, which 1787 01:28:10.119 --> 01:28:12.279 is weird. And I'm like trying to go back to 1788 01:28:12.359 --> 01:28:14.560 my body and I'm coming back down and I go 1789 01:28:15.000 --> 01:28:17.239 into my body and I feel my like nose like 1790 01:28:17.319 --> 01:28:19.199 sync up to my nose and everything. But then I 1791 01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:22.880 start going past my body like four inches. I'm like 1792 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:24.840 and I'm like no, no, no, no, no, no no no, 1793 01:28:25.079 --> 01:28:27.680 And I willed myself back up and then I like 1794 01:28:28.039 --> 01:28:34.800 came to But the feeling of going lower was amplified 1795 01:28:34.960 --> 01:28:37.960 my fear tenfold because I'm like, I didn't know you 1796 01:28:38.039 --> 01:28:41.439 can go down and you can go up. I'm like, 1797 01:28:41.520 --> 01:28:42.119 what's down? 1798 01:28:42.239 --> 01:28:44.800 I don't want to go down. Down scary. 1799 01:28:45.239 --> 01:28:47.840 We've always been taught that down is bad. I don't 1800 01:28:47.840 --> 01:28:50.319 want to go down. And it was a very scary, 1801 01:28:50.399 --> 01:28:55.119 like sobering thought. So then fast forward to after I 1802 01:28:55.199 --> 01:28:56.600 come back from TMI. 1803 01:28:58.680 --> 01:28:59.560 Yeah, I uh. 1804 01:29:00.960 --> 01:29:04.279 I had my first experience, which was okay. It was 1805 01:29:04.359 --> 01:29:07.800 during a lucid dream. So I'm rolling out of a 1806 01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:09.840 dream and I'm like, oh wait, this is a dream. 1807 01:29:09.920 --> 01:29:10.800 Oh I can go to body. 1808 01:29:10.800 --> 01:29:12.399 And as soon as I said that, I feel myself 1809 01:29:12.439 --> 01:29:16.039 being thrown hurled whoa like a thousand miles an hour 1810 01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.279 complete darkness. But I feel like I'm going and I'm floating, 1811 01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:23.239 and all of a sudden, I'm thinking to myself Paris, Paris, 1812 01:29:23.359 --> 01:29:25.880 because Hannah, when she went out of body, stopped Paris. 1813 01:29:25.920 --> 01:29:28.399 And I was panicking and I was like, and I 1814 01:29:28.520 --> 01:29:30.920 say Paris, and like my voice is super low, and 1815 01:29:30.960 --> 01:29:32.920 I'm like the hell And all of a sudden, I 1816 01:29:32.920 --> 01:29:35.119 can't see anything, and like the whole world's spinning around me. 1817 01:29:35.159 --> 01:29:37.960 I feel it spinning. And I tried to open my 1818 01:29:38.119 --> 01:29:42.399 eyes and I had to force my eyes open, like 1819 01:29:42.640 --> 01:29:44.439 force them. And this happened the first time I went 1820 01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:46.720 out of body, because I woke up from a nightmare 1821 01:29:46.720 --> 01:29:49.159 and I'm like, oh oh, I'm in my room, thank goodness. 1822 01:29:49.199 --> 01:29:51.159 And then I went out of body and this is 1823 01:29:51.199 --> 01:29:53.279 what happened to me here. So I'm forcing my eyes 1824 01:29:53.319 --> 01:29:55.960 open and I force open and I see what can 1825 01:29:56.000 --> 01:29:59.720 only be described as these giant, round, edged cubes made 1826 01:29:59.760 --> 01:30:04.800 of stone, like churning within one another like this big 1827 01:30:05.039 --> 01:30:10.520 Tessa act like making noise like a machine. And I'm like, 1828 01:30:10.760 --> 01:30:12.119 oh no, no, no, no, no, don't want to look 1829 01:30:12.119 --> 01:30:13.800 at that. And I look again. It's still there and 1830 01:30:13.800 --> 01:30:15.920 it's still making noise. I wiggle my fingers and I 1831 01:30:16.000 --> 01:30:18.640 slam back in my body. That was like, and now 1832 01:30:18.680 --> 01:30:20.760 I'm thinking, okay, But that was during a lucid dream. 1833 01:30:21.600 --> 01:30:23.680 It felt like the first time I went out of body, 1834 01:30:24.159 --> 01:30:28.520 but it was different. Next day, I'm reading Robert Monroe's book. 1835 01:30:28.520 --> 01:30:32.199 I'm at the exact chapter where he says, don't think 1836 01:30:32.239 --> 01:30:34.840 of a place when you want to go out of body, 1837 01:30:34.880 --> 01:30:36.760 think of a person. If you think of a place, 1838 01:30:36.840 --> 01:30:37.479 it'll be dark. 1839 01:30:37.760 --> 01:30:40.239 That's what Ignacio told me. Yeah, when we were first 1840 01:30:40.279 --> 01:30:42.319 ever trying to go out of body, He's like, think 1841 01:30:42.359 --> 01:30:44.119 of a person, maybe trying to go check on your wife. 1842 01:30:44.399 --> 01:30:47.560 Yes, because if you think out of think of a place, 1843 01:30:47.680 --> 01:30:50.359 it won't work. Now, Hannah, when she did it, had 1844 01:30:50.399 --> 01:30:51.520 a person in Paris. 1845 01:30:52.039 --> 01:30:53.359 Her sister, Yeah, she lives there. 1846 01:30:53.359 --> 01:30:55.520 I don't have anyone in Paris. So I was like Paris, Paris, Paris, 1847 01:30:55.920 --> 01:30:58.720 And that's why I broke the machine. I was like, 1848 01:30:58.760 --> 01:31:00.439 in the middle of this testa act like, oh no, 1849 01:31:00.479 --> 01:31:02.640 I'm not supposed to be here. Like it was very terrifying. 1850 01:31:04.920 --> 01:31:06.439 So that's what they made of that. 1851 01:31:08.479 --> 01:31:09.159 Yeah, I'm. 1852 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:16.800 Kind of not really, I'm just really wondering what this means, Like, 1853 01:31:16.920 --> 01:31:18.279 don't go to a place, right. 1854 01:31:20.199 --> 01:31:22.680 Have the intention to go out of your body, go 1855 01:31:22.880 --> 01:31:24.239 to a place. I get it, but. 1856 01:31:24.279 --> 01:31:28.000 I'm spinning out of control thinking what if at one 1857 01:31:28.039 --> 01:31:30.920 point this was Paris or the fact that Paris is 1858 01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:37.760 not a point in time like Paris is and has been. 1859 01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:39.600 That's true, it's not a feeling. 1860 01:31:39.800 --> 01:31:41.720 Yeah, I think you can go to feelings like how 1861 01:31:41.800 --> 01:31:45.319 Paris maybe if you have like a deep person someone 1862 01:31:45.600 --> 01:31:50.239 or I've been there, but but it's not like I 1863 01:31:50.319 --> 01:31:54.479 think a person is. Maybe you know, part of maybe 1864 01:31:54.560 --> 01:31:59.880 we're maybe we're entangled quantumly with other souls rather than locations, 1865 01:32:01.000 --> 01:32:02.439 and maybe we can travel that way. 1866 01:32:03.199 --> 01:32:04.920 Interesting. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what the 1867 01:32:05.000 --> 01:32:05.920 significance that was. 1868 01:32:06.000 --> 01:32:07.720 But when I the next day, when I read that, 1869 01:32:07.760 --> 01:32:08.079 I was like. 1870 01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:09.439 Oh, damn, Paris Hilton. 1871 01:32:09.479 --> 01:32:10.039 Paris Hilton. 1872 01:32:10.119 --> 01:32:13.720 Yeah, back from two thousand and three, Paris Hilton in 1873 01:32:13.800 --> 01:32:14.520 two thousand and three. 1874 01:32:16.319 --> 01:32:20.439 So anyways, a second time now. This next time was 1875 01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:23.279 cool because I woke up, I had to go to 1876 01:32:23.359 --> 01:32:26.720 the bathroom, but I was like, you know, it's too 1877 01:32:26.840 --> 01:32:28.800 late whatever, It's like four in the morning. I don't 1878 01:32:29.199 --> 01:32:31.399 feel like getting up, but I go, oh, this might 1879 01:32:31.439 --> 01:32:33.920 be a perfect time to go out of body. Because 1880 01:32:33.920 --> 01:32:36.800 I'm like buzzing. I'm in between sleep, you know, but 1881 01:32:36.880 --> 01:32:39.279 I'm lucid. So I was like, okay, let me close 1882 01:32:39.319 --> 01:32:40.520 my eyes. And I close my eyes and I go, 1883 01:32:41.000 --> 01:32:43.439 I deeply desire to leave my body. I deeply desire 1884 01:32:43.439 --> 01:32:45.680 to leave my body. I deeply desire to leave my body. 1885 01:32:45.720 --> 01:32:48.239 And a third time that I say, it's three seconds 1886 01:32:48.239 --> 01:32:51.119 after I close my eyes, I feel myself phasing. And 1887 01:32:51.479 --> 01:32:53.560 I say phasing because it's like a transition. 1888 01:32:53.239 --> 01:32:54.439 Period where you. 1889 01:32:56.159 --> 01:32:59.439 Where your soul, your spirit, whatever you want to call it, 1890 01:33:00.880 --> 01:33:04.560 falls through your physical and you kind of like feel 1891 01:33:04.800 --> 01:33:06.800 it all and because you're in it, you feel it 1892 01:33:06.880 --> 01:33:10.399 everywhere inside and it's like energetic and it's like like this, 1893 01:33:10.600 --> 01:33:12.439 it's like this, it's whatever, this looks like. 1894 01:33:13.039 --> 01:33:13.920 That's what it feels like. 1895 01:33:14.359 --> 01:33:16.760 Kind of like your numb everywhere and you're electric and 1896 01:33:16.840 --> 01:33:19.000 you're buzzing and you're kind of phasing. You ever have 1897 01:33:19.239 --> 01:33:20.920 you ever go you ever fall a sleep on a 1898 01:33:20.960 --> 01:33:24.079 plane and like you jerk away because you thought you 1899 01:33:24.159 --> 01:33:27.159 were falling, Like just imagine you don't jerk away and 1900 01:33:27.239 --> 01:33:32.000 you keep falling. That's what it feels like. So where 1901 01:33:32.039 --> 01:33:34.680 you're going and you just keep going and you keep going, 1902 01:33:34.760 --> 01:33:36.600 and now you're phasing and you're kind of like coming 1903 01:33:36.640 --> 01:33:38.720 out of it. And now you're like, oh, now you're 1904 01:33:38.760 --> 01:33:41.680 in this weird buzzing territory. You're still lucid. I still 1905 01:33:41.720 --> 01:33:43.720 know I'm here. I'm aware that. I just close my 1906 01:33:43.800 --> 01:33:46.560 eyes and I go perfect. Now I'm gonna go to 1907 01:33:46.560 --> 01:33:51.000 a body, and I peel my eyes open again. I 1908 01:33:51.079 --> 01:33:52.520 have to peel my eyes open for some reason, so 1909 01:33:52.600 --> 01:33:54.960 I peel them. I feel them opening like this. 1910 01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:56.279 Now I see my room. 1911 01:33:56.279 --> 01:33:58.920 It's all fuzzy like the first time, it was all 1912 01:33:59.039 --> 01:34:02.560 gray and fuzzy. I'm feeling buzzing. I'm hearing a wooshing sound, 1913 01:34:03.279 --> 01:34:07.399 and I'm lower. I'm in the mattress. Now I'm kind 1914 01:34:07.399 --> 01:34:08.920 of like low. It's a weird respective. So I put 1915 01:34:08.920 --> 01:34:11.199 my hands on the mattress and I push myself up. 1916 01:34:11.800 --> 01:34:13.960 And now I see my body right there, right in 1917 01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:16.600 front of me, and I go, all right, that's enough, 1918 01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:19.439 and I go right back into my body. I wiggle 1919 01:34:19.479 --> 01:34:21.159 my fingers and I wake up. That was my second time, 1920 01:34:21.159 --> 01:34:22.119 so I didn't go very far. 1921 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:26.119 To one moment. Huh, tell them why you wiggle your fingers? Uh? 1922 01:34:26.319 --> 01:34:29.199 To come back to one to come back to this 1923 01:34:29.760 --> 01:34:34.439 state of consciousness. Yeah, one, one, Yeah, This little movement 1924 01:34:34.760 --> 01:34:37.000 brings me back into my body's like snaps me back in. 1925 01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:39.720 Now. 1926 01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:40.800 Third time. 1927 01:34:42.279 --> 01:34:42.479 Six. 1928 01:34:42.680 --> 01:34:44.239 It's at five thirty in the morning. 1929 01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:44.960 I wake up. 1930 01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:51.439 Perfect Meditation time. I pop on my monro Institute Meditation, 1931 01:34:51.600 --> 01:34:55.600 my expand app and I hit a sixty minute focus ten. 1932 01:34:55.840 --> 01:34:56.199 Perfect. 1933 01:34:56.880 --> 01:34:59.680 I meditate for an entire sixty minutes without falling asleep. 1934 01:35:00.399 --> 01:35:06.079 Perfect meditation, beautiful, feel good, buzzing. My whole body's buzzing, vibrating. 1935 01:35:06.880 --> 01:35:10.840 I take them off. It's now six thirty five. I 1936 01:35:11.079 --> 01:35:14.479 take them off. I put them down, and I lay down. 1937 01:35:14.560 --> 01:35:16.520 I go I deeply desired to leave my body. I 1938 01:35:16.560 --> 01:35:19.399 deeply desired leave my body. I deeply desire leave my body. 1939 01:35:19.439 --> 01:35:22.680 And on the third time I say it, I start phasing. 1940 01:35:23.800 --> 01:35:25.680 I'm moving in my body. I'm like, all right, awesome, 1941 01:35:25.800 --> 01:35:26.600 it's happening again. 1942 01:35:26.880 --> 01:35:27.319 Can't wait. 1943 01:35:27.960 --> 01:35:30.399 I try peeling my eyes open, But it's six thirty 1944 01:35:30.439 --> 01:35:31.640 in the morning and the sun's coming. I don't have 1945 01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:34.279 any curtains in my room, and the sun is blaring through, 1946 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:36.680 and I know if I open my eyes right now, 1947 01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:39.960 I'm gonna wake up because that sun will wake me up. 1948 01:35:40.640 --> 01:35:44.279 So I decide to close my eyes. And now I'm like, well, 1949 01:35:44.319 --> 01:35:45.520 how am I going to get out of body if 1950 01:35:45.560 --> 01:35:49.600 I can't see anything? So I remember Rosalie at the 1951 01:35:49.680 --> 01:35:56.720 Monro Institute told me just demand clarity. Yeah, so clarity now. 1952 01:35:57.800 --> 01:35:59.479 So I go with my eyes closed and I go. 1953 01:36:01.079 --> 01:36:03.680 Clardy. Now. I say, my voice is so deep. I 1954 01:36:03.680 --> 01:36:04.159 don't know why. 1955 01:36:04.239 --> 01:36:07.479 My inner voice is like the demon inside me. It 1956 01:36:07.560 --> 01:36:10.760 was like glardy no, and I'm like, oh god, it's terrifying. 1957 01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:14.279 And all of a sudden, I start seeing through my eyelids. 1958 01:36:15.159 --> 01:36:16.239 I'm like, oh, this is great. 1959 01:36:17.000 --> 01:36:17.640 I get up. 1960 01:36:18.680 --> 01:36:21.000 My body's there. Okay, cool, We're not gonna look at 1961 01:36:21.039 --> 01:36:23.359 that too long. And I moved to the window. Now 1962 01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:28.119 my windows higher in this realm, even though this is 1963 01:36:28.159 --> 01:36:30.800 my room, I see everything clearly. Remember I had just 1964 01:36:30.880 --> 01:36:32.439 closed my eyes ten seconds ago. 1965 01:36:33.239 --> 01:36:33.960 I was wide awake. 1966 01:36:34.159 --> 01:36:36.520 Ten seconds ago, I closed my eyes. This isn't half 1967 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:39.560 an hour later during a sleep. I just closed my eyes. 1968 01:36:39.600 --> 01:36:41.399 I went like this, and I said, I said the 1969 01:36:41.439 --> 01:36:44.000 thing three times, and now I'm up. Okay, so this 1970 01:36:44.079 --> 01:36:47.640 is right now, this windows higher, and they said that 1971 01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:49.880 for some reason, Bob and Roe said, it's like an 1972 01:36:49.920 --> 01:36:52.159 eighty percent match this other realm for some reason. 1973 01:36:52.199 --> 01:36:54.000 We don't know why. It's higher. 1974 01:36:54.119 --> 01:36:57.199 There's a picture of somebody and there's a rosary hanging 1975 01:36:57.239 --> 01:36:57.680 beside it. 1976 01:36:58.479 --> 01:37:01.520 I don't have a rosary. That's so weird to think about. Man, Yeah, 1977 01:37:01.560 --> 01:37:03.119 it's the eighty percent match thing. 1978 01:37:03.359 --> 01:37:07.359 Yeah, it's a weird detail, it is, and uh makes sense. 1979 01:37:07.520 --> 01:37:09.159 I remember what Archie told me. It's like kind of 1980 01:37:09.159 --> 01:37:09.840 like the upside down. 1981 01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:13.159 I was thinking in stranger things, Yeah, sec upside down, yeah, 1982 01:37:13.520 --> 01:37:14.279 version of reality. 1983 01:37:14.680 --> 01:37:17.319 And I remember looking at my hand. Archie's like, you know, 1984 01:37:17.439 --> 01:37:18.800 he's telling me how he can put his hand through 1985 01:37:18.840 --> 01:37:21.439 the window. And I was like, I'm gonna try it. 1986 01:37:21.520 --> 01:37:22.960 I'm in front of my window and I see his window. 1987 01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:24.279 It's sunny out, and I'm like, I can't wait to 1988 01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:24.720 get out there. 1989 01:37:25.399 --> 01:37:27.239 And I go like this and he goes and I. 1990 01:37:27.319 --> 01:37:29.319 Can't, and I'm like, what the heck. I was like, 1991 01:37:29.319 --> 01:37:30.920 all right, well, I'll just open the old fashion way 1992 01:37:31.119 --> 01:37:33.600 and I open the window and I leap out and 1993 01:37:33.600 --> 01:37:36.800 I'm halfway out and I kind of stop and I 1994 01:37:37.000 --> 01:37:41.640 hear a female voice go, what are you doing? 1995 01:37:44.760 --> 01:37:45.279 Oh my god? 1996 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:46.079 And I. 1997 01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:48.239 Go back in. 1998 01:37:48.760 --> 01:37:50.520 I don't look at where the voice was coming from. 1999 01:37:50.560 --> 01:37:52.199 It was coming from across the room. I don't even 2000 01:37:52.279 --> 01:37:54.600 want to look in that direction of what what said 2001 01:37:54.720 --> 01:37:57.560 that because it was so scary. I see my body, 2002 01:37:57.840 --> 01:38:00.279 I lay back down, I phase back into my body 2003 01:38:00.319 --> 01:38:01.159 of wiggle my fingers. 2004 01:38:01.199 --> 01:38:03.279 It is now six thirty eight. It was three minutes. 2005 01:38:05.600 --> 01:38:08.399 That was the last three minutes. That was in real time. 2006 01:38:08.520 --> 01:38:11.399 Yeah, in real time those three minutes. Wow, And uh 2007 01:38:11.520 --> 01:38:13.359 I was I was lucid the entire time, never once 2008 01:38:13.399 --> 01:38:13.960 I fall asleep. 2009 01:38:14.119 --> 01:38:16.640 Yeah, that's amazing, dude. I can't wait to hear what 2010 01:38:16.680 --> 01:38:18.680 happens the next time you go out of body. I 2011 01:38:18.720 --> 01:38:18.920 don't know. 2012 01:38:19.000 --> 01:38:20.960 I'm looking forward to it, though. Every single time I 2013 01:38:21.079 --> 01:38:24.000 get scared, every single time scared what happen? 2014 01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:26.439 Yeah? That every time you like, just go a little further. 2015 01:38:26.520 --> 01:38:28.520 You're like, I'm good, I'm good exactly, and you're you're 2016 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.039 you know, your survival kids in and you just get 2017 01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:33.640 a little for the next time. I'm good, I've gone 2018 01:38:33.640 --> 01:38:36.640 far though, that's right, you know. So you're literally playing 2019 01:38:36.720 --> 01:38:39.439 out what they said. What happened. It's amazing. Yeah, it's 2020 01:38:39.760 --> 01:38:40.600 it's remarkable. 2021 01:38:40.640 --> 01:38:42.039 And I'm getting a lot of people in the comments 2022 01:38:42.079 --> 01:38:43.960 also saying this is so validing for me because that's 2023 01:38:43.960 --> 01:38:45.359 what happened to me, and like they're saying the same 2024 01:38:45.439 --> 01:38:46.319 things I said. 2025 01:38:46.399 --> 01:38:48.880 It happened to Bob and Rowe what the hell is 2026 01:38:48.960 --> 01:38:50.600 looking down in his body's freaked out? 2027 01:38:50.720 --> 01:38:52.000 Yeah, yeah, it's a real thing. 2028 01:38:52.239 --> 01:38:54.199 Yeah, I totally believe it, dude. The first time I 2029 01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:55.960 went out of body. See, that's the thing is like 2030 01:38:57.000 --> 01:38:59.800 when I go out of body, Uh, it's not like 2031 01:39:00.199 --> 01:39:06.159 it all. I don't, you know, exist in my room 2032 01:39:06.359 --> 01:39:09.319 looking at myself laying there and look around and choose 2033 01:39:09.319 --> 01:39:11.319 where I want to go. I just go to the 2034 01:39:11.600 --> 01:39:14.439 craziest places and it's like DMT and I'm just shown 2035 01:39:14.560 --> 01:39:16.439 things that I feel like I'm supposed to be seen. 2036 01:39:17.439 --> 01:39:20.159 So that was kind of like my Focus fifteen one. Yeah, 2037 01:39:20.319 --> 01:39:21.920 where I was like at that gas station and then 2038 01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:24.039 choose I gotta have control over where No, I didn't 2039 01:39:24.039 --> 01:39:26.159 have a control. I was just shown this thing and 2040 01:39:26.199 --> 01:39:26.840 I was like, what is this? 2041 01:39:27.880 --> 01:39:31.840 I did one time when we were at Monroe, and 2042 01:39:31.960 --> 01:39:34.560 I think it was it was either Focus twelve or 2043 01:39:34.600 --> 01:39:36.800 Focus fifteen. There was one time where I could manipulate 2044 01:39:36.840 --> 01:39:39.479 where I was going and it was like super fast 2045 01:39:39.560 --> 01:39:41.199 and it was like I was flying like Superman and 2046 01:39:41.239 --> 01:39:43.520 then I was running like the Flash and it's kind 2047 01:39:43.560 --> 01:39:47.720 of freaky, but that sounds cool. Yeah, I'd like to 2048 01:39:47.800 --> 01:39:47.960 do that. 2049 01:39:48.079 --> 01:39:49.520 If I could just get my hand through the window, 2050 01:39:49.560 --> 01:39:50.159 that would start. 2051 01:39:50.399 --> 01:39:53.920 You will just so disappointing. I'm like, this is supposed 2052 01:39:53.920 --> 01:39:56.560 to be It's supposed to be my I don't know. 2053 01:39:56.600 --> 01:39:58.079 My alternate universe is supposed to be able to do 2054 01:39:58.119 --> 01:40:01.079 anything here near grounded stu. Yeah, and then it's like 2055 01:40:01.119 --> 01:40:04.039 what are you doing? Like this sound was like so 2056 01:40:04.239 --> 01:40:06.640 stern and so like it's almost like what do you 2057 01:40:06.760 --> 01:40:07.399 think you're doing? 2058 01:40:07.880 --> 01:40:09.359 Like that was the tone. I was like, what are 2059 01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:11.720 you doing? And I was like stupid. 2060 01:40:11.960 --> 01:40:14.439 Yeah, I was like I don't know, but it wasn't 2061 01:40:14.439 --> 01:40:16.079 a voice. I didn't recognize the voice. I have no 2062 01:40:16.119 --> 01:40:17.319 idea who whose voice that was. 2063 01:40:17.359 --> 01:40:21.800 And it was very uh yeah, it was very scary. 2064 01:40:22.239 --> 01:40:25.600 I have to ask, why do you tend to prefer 2065 01:40:25.800 --> 01:40:27.720 to meditate to focus ten of all the other. 2066 01:40:28.399 --> 01:40:32.079 Focus ten is the out of body meditation. That's the 2067 01:40:32.119 --> 01:40:35.039 one that's best tuned for out of body the really 2068 01:40:35.159 --> 01:40:36.479 yeah mind to wake body of sleep. 2069 01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.439 Wow, I never thought about it like that. Yeah, that's 2070 01:40:41.479 --> 01:40:42.520 the one that makes sense. 2071 01:40:42.680 --> 01:40:44.920 That's the one that But I mean, you can get 2072 01:40:44.920 --> 01:40:47.520 out of body with anything. Well, actually I never actually 2073 01:40:47.560 --> 01:40:49.319 got out of body during a Focus. 2074 01:40:49.119 --> 01:40:52.239 Ten, right, because we did intro and Focus twelve. But 2075 01:40:52.319 --> 01:40:53.000 it's always after. 2076 01:40:53.840 --> 01:40:56.560 Yeah, I would always do the meditation, take off the headset, 2077 01:40:58.119 --> 01:41:01.840 then get out of body. It was never during the 2078 01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:04.520 HEMI sync interesting, yeah, never once. 2079 01:41:04.880 --> 01:41:07.239 My favorite is twelve. I just I find that I'm 2080 01:41:07.319 --> 01:41:11.159 drawn to it, the concept of expanded awareness. Yeah, you know, 2081 01:41:11.319 --> 01:41:15.640 it's a good feeling twelve. Yeah, it is. I find 2082 01:41:15.760 --> 01:41:18.960 that when I'm making contact with the beings. And I 2083 01:41:19.199 --> 01:41:21.239 can't believe I just said that. That's something I've never 2084 01:41:21.319 --> 01:41:24.439 said before. I always talk about it in terms of 2085 01:41:24.479 --> 01:41:27.319 Dad making contact. But yeah, sometimes I guess I make 2086 01:41:27.359 --> 01:41:32.520 contact and post Monroe, I just go in to Focus 2087 01:41:32.560 --> 01:41:34.439 twelve and I start sending myself up there. 2088 01:41:34.960 --> 01:41:37.840 And you said you did that at the beach last night. 2089 01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:41.520 Yeah, and then the weird thing appeared that maybe it 2090 01:41:41.640 --> 01:41:46.079 was government craft, maybe it was something else. I don't know, 2091 01:41:46.239 --> 01:41:49.880 but it was really weird because yeah, I was, I 2092 01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:53.520 was in Focus twelve and I just had these feelings 2093 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:57.880 and we're seeing things throughout the night. So when we 2094 01:41:57.960 --> 01:42:02.439 were at Monroe together, I went home for one week. 2095 01:42:02.720 --> 01:42:04.079 I mean, we were all home, but I was home 2096 01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:06.039 for one week, and then the following week after that, 2097 01:42:06.560 --> 01:42:09.840 I went to Germany. While I was in Germany, and 2098 01:42:09.880 --> 01:42:11.640 obviously this was my first time getting to try this 2099 01:42:11.720 --> 01:42:13.399 because I had just got back from Monroe and now 2100 01:42:13.399 --> 01:42:15.760 I'm in Germany, it's like, I'm still processing this thing. 2101 01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:19.000 I spent the whole Europe trip processing it, you know. 2102 01:42:19.920 --> 01:42:22.680 And there was one night that I was like, I'm 2103 01:42:22.720 --> 01:42:25.359 gonna try going on to Focus twelve. And I'm sitting 2104 01:42:25.399 --> 01:42:30.319 on the patio at my wife's uncle's apartment and I'm 2105 01:42:30.319 --> 01:42:34.439 sitting there meditating, and I go into Focus twelve and 2106 01:42:34.520 --> 01:42:36.600 I start doing like how it was at Monroe, sending 2107 01:42:36.600 --> 01:42:40.000 myself up to the sky and just inviting their presence 2108 01:42:40.079 --> 01:42:43.760 and trying to make contact with my thoughts. And I 2109 01:42:43.840 --> 01:42:47.319 swear to you, dude, I opened my eyes. Boom, it 2110 01:42:47.439 --> 01:42:52.800 was there, like open my eyes or so. I started 2111 01:42:52.840 --> 01:42:58.159 to notice that sensation, what sensation occurs within me when 2112 01:42:58.680 --> 01:43:02.199 I get into this state in the boom right there there. Yeah, 2113 01:43:02.680 --> 01:43:05.920 so that feeling. Yeah, that's cool. I think we can 2114 01:43:05.960 --> 01:43:08.000 all do this. My dad taught me this but I 2115 01:43:08.119 --> 01:43:08.680 just find. 2116 01:43:08.640 --> 01:43:10.840 What's happened to where he had to run out of 2117 01:43:10.880 --> 01:43:13.159 the house and yeah, be like they're here. 2118 01:43:13.680 --> 01:43:16.119 Like every time, Like that's how it works. And he's 2119 01:43:16.159 --> 01:43:18.520 always taught me about this feeling and that it's possible. 2120 01:43:18.880 --> 01:43:21.039 But after going to Monroe, I finally learned how to 2121 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:22.520 access this state of mind. 2122 01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:22.920 M M. 2123 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:24.960 You see what I'm saying. I think we all have 2124 01:43:25.039 --> 01:43:28.359 this ability, but it's just a certain focus level. Yeah, 2125 01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:30.920 it's a state, it's a it's a it's a mental state, 2126 01:43:31.000 --> 01:43:33.319 and I feel like I've kind of finally learned how 2127 01:43:33.319 --> 01:43:36.960 to get there thanks to the Monroe Institute. We gotta 2128 01:43:37.000 --> 01:43:41.560 go back, well yeah, I think I think we will. 2129 01:43:41.760 --> 01:43:44.319 I think so, let's put it that way. But so 2130 01:43:44.479 --> 01:43:46.479 I got to ask you this then, So in what 2131 01:43:46.760 --> 01:43:49.840 way you could be as broad or specific as you like, 2132 01:43:49.960 --> 01:43:52.279 but in what way has the Monroe Institute changed your 2133 01:43:52.319 --> 01:43:54.359 life in a major way. 2134 01:43:55.159 --> 01:43:58.520 It's definitely taught me that I am more than my 2135 01:43:58.560 --> 01:44:02.119 physical body, and I think that's the one thing they 2136 01:44:02.239 --> 01:44:04.079 wanted to teach me, and it's the one thing that 2137 01:44:04.319 --> 01:44:10.359 I now believe is true. That is again my personal 2138 01:44:10.399 --> 01:44:14.680 assessment of my own journey. I encourage everyone to do 2139 01:44:14.840 --> 01:44:18.439 their own research. Do not take my word for it. 2140 01:44:18.479 --> 01:44:20.079 I'm not here to preach and I'm not here to 2141 01:44:20.159 --> 01:44:24.439 tell you what is what. For me, I believe that 2142 01:44:24.560 --> 01:44:27.159 I am more than my own physical body because I've 2143 01:44:27.199 --> 01:44:31.000 seen my physical body from a perspective that I was 2144 01:44:31.119 --> 01:44:35.520 that made me very uncomfortable. And once you see that, 2145 01:44:35.600 --> 01:44:39.720 and that's the one thing that you realize, you can't 2146 01:44:40.039 --> 01:44:40.520 go back. 2147 01:44:41.279 --> 01:44:43.039 You can't go back. Once you see that, you can't 2148 01:44:43.079 --> 01:44:45.479 go back. This is coming from. 2149 01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:49.000 Someone you know who not a guy, not a guy 2150 01:44:49.159 --> 01:44:53.399 into anything other than you know, the objective reality that 2151 01:44:53.520 --> 01:44:55.000 is shown to us, you know what I mean. 2152 01:44:55.239 --> 01:44:55.960 That's usually me. 2153 01:44:56.760 --> 01:44:59.000 And after all this journey that I'm going through, I'm 2154 01:44:59.039 --> 01:45:00.720 realizing now that like there's much more. 2155 01:45:01.000 --> 01:45:03.319 Yeah, yeah, you have to humble yourself, like you were 2156 01:45:03.319 --> 01:45:06.039 saying earlier, you have to humble yourself and understand there's 2157 01:45:06.159 --> 01:45:10.319 just sometimes things that are above our you know, understanding that. 2158 01:45:11.640 --> 01:45:14.760 Amazing man. Thank you for joining us, Thank you for 2159 01:45:14.840 --> 01:45:16.960 coming all the way out from I'll just say Montreal, 2160 01:45:17.119 --> 01:45:21.359 Yes that's okay, and just spending an incredible few days 2161 01:45:21.359 --> 01:45:24.720 with us, and I I want to come to Canada. 2162 01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:28.760 You're gonna come. I will come to. Yes, I would 2163 01:45:29.000 --> 01:45:31.159 love that. I would love to take it towards your 2164 01:45:31.199 --> 01:45:35.159 studio and what what do you do you want to 2165 01:45:35.239 --> 01:45:40.840 come to baby? Yeah, I would love that, man, I 2166 01:45:40.880 --> 01:45:46.000 would love BSS does Canada, BSS goes to uh see 2167 01:45:46.079 --> 01:45:49.359 Chris Ramsey, you know. And it's just I'm humbled to 2168 01:45:49.399 --> 01:45:52.039 be your friend. Man. I'm glad that we were neighbors 2169 01:45:52.079 --> 01:45:56.079 at Monroe. I'm glad that you were really from my experience, 2170 01:45:56.279 --> 01:46:00.319 you were like a very pivotal part of that. Because 2171 01:46:01.319 --> 01:46:03.239 I was on the phone with my dad on the 2172 01:46:03.359 --> 01:46:06.079 drive to Monroe saying, Dad, I have a secret plan. 2173 01:46:07.479 --> 01:46:09.159 I want to get there and I want to SkyWatch. 2174 01:46:09.359 --> 01:46:10.840 I want to bring it up later in the week, 2175 01:46:11.359 --> 01:46:13.000 let people warm up to it, and then I want 2176 01:46:13.039 --> 01:46:16.000 everybody to see one good time. I want the staff 2177 01:46:16.039 --> 01:46:18.079 to see, I want everybody to see. And then I 2178 01:46:18.159 --> 01:46:21.119 get there and immediately you walk right up, playing it 2179 01:46:21.239 --> 01:46:25.159 in my hand. H. I'm Chris, nice to meet you. Uh, 2180 01:46:26.439 --> 01:46:28.640 you have a really cool podcast. I've read your dad's book. 2181 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.439 That's super awesome. Man, I'm glad to meet you. And 2182 01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:33.479 you just completely disarmed me. And then right away you 2183 01:46:33.560 --> 01:46:36.479 were like, let's SkyWatch tonight. And it like forced me 2184 01:46:36.600 --> 01:46:40.039 to adjust course. Like if it wasn't for you and 2185 01:46:40.119 --> 01:46:43.560 your intentions and what like the outcome that you sort 2186 01:46:43.600 --> 01:46:46.000 of forced, like, it might not have ever been the 2187 01:46:46.039 --> 01:46:48.920 same for me. So I'm grateful for that, man, and 2188 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:53.880 I'm grateful for you. Thank you. Grateful for you too, Yeah. 2189 01:46:54.119 --> 01:46:55.560 Thank you. I'm grateful for y'all. 2190 01:46:55.680 --> 01:46:57.560 I'm grateful for Nick. I hate that he had to 2191 01:46:57.600 --> 01:47:01.399 miss it, but yeah, you know, but it's okay, man, 2192 01:47:01.479 --> 01:47:06.039 it's get his rest and he's he's he's bummed about it. 2193 01:47:06.119 --> 01:47:08.439 I'm bummed about it, but you know, he can't help 2194 01:47:08.479 --> 01:47:11.920 being sick. So we're thinking of Nick. Sending our thoughts 2195 01:47:11.960 --> 01:47:14.920 at the neck, Yeah, sending our thoughts and yeah, any 2196 01:47:15.039 --> 01:47:16.840 last words, anything you want to get off your chest. 2197 01:47:16.840 --> 01:47:19.199 You're good, I'm good, feeling good. I'm feeling great. You 2198 01:47:19.279 --> 01:47:20.800 know how we end it? How do we end it 2199 01:47:21.319 --> 01:47:23.479 with the bgs? We say bye guys at the same 2200 01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:26.920 time to the camera. Ready, Yeah, I'm ready, ready, one, two, three, 2201 01:47:27.319 --> 01:47:27.960 Bye guys. 2202 01:47:30.079 --> 01:47:34.319 Weird things happen in the backyard of Bletsoe house or shit. 2203 01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:52.760 Got so weird coming clutch to like smiling on the 2204 01:47:52.840 --> 01:47:56.640 inside of it. No one knows 2205 01:48:00.479 --> 01:48:22.079 W discome I ever done, sord, nothing him