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<v Speaker 1>You ever heard of the scene in midtown Manhattan quite

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<v Speaker 1>the happening place in the sixties. I mean, Jim Morrison,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Hendricks, a Fleetwood Mac, I mean this.

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<v Speaker 2>Was the place to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, it was a flash in the pan most

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<v Speaker 1>great clubs are. But it was when this space was

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<v Speaker 1>being demolished in two thousand and three, when the workers

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<v Speaker 1>demolishing the joint started hammering into a section of the

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<v Speaker 1>basement and.

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<v Speaker 2>A skull rolled out. That is where we kick off

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<v Speaker 2>True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 3>The story is true. That's true.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it sounds made up.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Garry and Shannon present true fun. Man.

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<v Speaker 4>If you are a fan of those one thousand piece puzzles,

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<v Speaker 4>this story feels like a five thousand piece puzzle.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and a lot of different roads that would take

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<v Speaker 1>you in different places.

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<v Speaker 4>The pieces that fit in the wrong spots one of

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<v Speaker 4>those kinds of things.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, a lot of sky pieces, lots of sky and clouds.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, the scene, that club that you're talking about had

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<v Speaker 4>been many things since the sixties.

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<v Speaker 3>When it was shut down.

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<v Speaker 4>There three oh one West forty sixth Street had several tenants.

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<v Speaker 4>In some cases it was after the scene had closed

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<v Speaker 4>and turned into a porn shop, a dive bar, and

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<v Speaker 4>then a restaurant, and a restaurant was sort of the

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<v Speaker 4>key that led to the discovery of a body. They

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<v Speaker 4>were trying to put together a walk in freezer in

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<v Speaker 4>the basement of this building in February of two thousand

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<v Speaker 4>and three, and demolition was the whole thing. The construction

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<v Speaker 4>workers noticed a raised concrete slab behind an aging coal

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<v Speaker 4>furnace in the basement of this building, six feet wide,

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<v Speaker 4>five feet long, a foot high.

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't make any sense. Why why would it be there.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the workers takes out a sledgehammer and smashes

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<v Speaker 4>through the concrete and a human skull falls out.

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<v Speaker 1>The cops arrive, they dig in. They find the bones

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<v Speaker 1>of a girl lying in a fetal position, hands and

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<v Speaker 1>feet bound together by an extension cord wrapped around her

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<v Speaker 1>neck as well. She'd been wrapped up in a rust

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<v Speaker 1>colored rug. At some point cement was poured on top

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<v Speaker 1>of her. They knew she wore a size thirty two,

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<v Speaker 1>a bra, clear pantyhose, a glittery frock. They recovered a

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<v Speaker 1>ring with the initials p McK G, a watch issued

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty six, a dime dated nineteen sixty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and a plastic toy soldier.

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<v Speaker 2>What a wild.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, what do you call those tubes that you

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<v Speaker 1>plant from years gone by?

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<v Speaker 3>Micapsule?

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<v Speaker 1>What a tie capsule of a crime scene? Right, like

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that all of this was intact is wild.

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<v Speaker 1>There was also DNA from an unknown source, possibly a

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<v Speaker 1>white male, from a hair found in that rug.

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<v Speaker 3>There were some red herrings.

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<v Speaker 4>They now know they were red herrings in terms of

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<v Speaker 4>the time your time capsule analogy. There there was a

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<v Speaker 4>bag of rat poison that was found in that concrete

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<v Speaker 4>slab that was believed to have been manufactured in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>seventy nine. There was a clothing label which wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 4>appeared to exist before nineteen eighty eight. So they're trying

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<v Speaker 4>to kind of backtime this and if they know the

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<v Speaker 4>approximate age of this girl somewhere between sixteen and twenty

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<v Speaker 4>one years old, they go back and kind of backdate

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<v Speaker 4>and try to figure out when are they going to

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<v Speaker 4>start looking through the missing persons reports. So they go

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<v Speaker 4>back to nineteen fifty eight, that's where they started. Eventually

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<v Speaker 4>they realized that that was going to be five years

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<v Speaker 4>too late because those other later things that were discovered

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<v Speaker 4>were just not actually part of the case that they

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<v Speaker 4>were looking at.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, this is all discovered in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>but still technology had not caught up nearly to how

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<v Speaker 1>well it has caught up now, right. They did a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different tests on the DNA. The bones were

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<v Speaker 1>too degradated at that time, degradated to go through and

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<v Speaker 1>get any air answers from there. But the cold case

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<v Speaker 1>unit took a look at this in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>and in twenty twenty three, the unit ran the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>profile through CODIS, the National DNA database, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>started using the familial genetic data.

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<v Speaker 2>This is what we've talked about numerous times.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how they tracked down the Golden State killer it

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<v Speaker 1>has been used for iding.

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<v Speaker 2>Jane Does as.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a veteran genetic genealogist who joined the NYPD on contract,

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<v Speaker 1>was one of the ones who released sat down and

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<v Speaker 1>poured through all of the DNA. She was the one

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<v Speaker 1>who found the name in an obituary for a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Bernard McLoone. This was after she kind of went

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<v Speaker 1>through the profiles and intersected them her the familial DNA

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<v Speaker 1>and found that there was one, there was a first cousin,

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<v Speaker 1>and then there was a second cousin on there was

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<v Speaker 1>a first cousin on the maternal side, second cousin on

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<v Speaker 1>the paternal side. They kind of intersected all the data

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<v Speaker 1>and found out the name Patricia Mclone and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the one that kind of the only one that had

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<v Speaker 1>both of those two people in their tree. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they found the obituary for the guy, Bernard maclone.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So once they get to that point and they've

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<v Speaker 4>got a name for Patricia and they know who she was,

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<v Speaker 4>they know what basically that she was born in nineteen

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<v Speaker 4>fifty three, they then have to figure out how did

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<v Speaker 4>she end up in that concrete slab and.

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<v Speaker 1>She's sixteen at the time of her death murder, you

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<v Speaker 1>would assume.

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<v Speaker 2>Turns out she had a husband.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, very weird.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about this dead girl for True Crime Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 1>This young girl that was entombed basically in a concrete

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<v Speaker 1>slab for decades, a hot club in the sixties that

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<v Speaker 1>closed down. It was being demolished in two thousand and three,

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<v Speaker 1>and they recover the bones of this girl and we're trying.

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<v Speaker 2>To figure it out who was she?

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until a couple years ago when they're running

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<v Speaker 1>the familial DNA that they get this hit and they

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<v Speaker 1>finally get a name on this girl. Now, was it

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<v Speaker 1>a young girl who decided to go to one of

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<v Speaker 1>the hot clubs in midtown maybe where there was the

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<v Speaker 1>mafia involved? Maybe was her shady thirty two year old husband,

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<v Speaker 1>what sixteen years old and she's got a thirty two

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<v Speaker 1>year old husband. Yeah, there's a lot of ways this

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<v Speaker 1>girl could have turned up dead, is all I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, her mom and dad finger quotes had a pretty

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<v Speaker 4>interesting life in that dad actually had two other families

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<v Speaker 4>by the time he married Mom.

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<v Speaker 2>Love a secret family.

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<v Speaker 4>And try two of them. So there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>mystery going into this girl's life. Early on the club itself,

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<v Speaker 4>like we said, the scene, the last days were not great.

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<v Speaker 3>Steve Paul was the owner.

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<v Speaker 4>The bunch of people, including the mob, were coming in

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<v Speaker 4>and demanding money for protection, et cetera. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 4>seen that in multiple movies over the course of years.

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<v Speaker 4>He predicted in nineteen sixty seven that the club was

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<v Speaker 4>probably not gonna last. And this again is after the

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<v Speaker 4>Doors had a regular residency there. Jimmy Hendrix would show up,

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<v Speaker 4>Leonard Bernstein would walk through the halls. Every once in

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<v Speaker 4>a while, record executives like Clive Davis would be there

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<v Speaker 4>to try to catch a musical act before anybody else

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<v Speaker 4>really saw it. Now it's not clear if nineteen seventy

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<v Speaker 4>three is about when the scene closed down, if Steve Paul,

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<v Speaker 4>the owner, knew anything about the teenage girl that was

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<v Speaker 4>buried in the basement, and if he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody knew something. I mean, this girl was obviously coming

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<v Speaker 1>from a troubled home. She may have had a teenage pregnancy.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a fight over money between her dead father

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<v Speaker 1>and the mother that remained. There was a brother involved

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<v Speaker 1>trying to get his hands on the money, and so

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<v Speaker 1>they still have no.

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<v Speaker 2>Idea how this girl was killed. But still so many avenues.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you think you hear these stories and you think, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was the older husband or whatever that impregnated

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<v Speaker 1>her when she was still in high school.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was a girl who went out to the

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<v Speaker 1>hot club and fell in with the wrong crowd. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>it was the guy who ran the club that was

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<v Speaker 1>in trouble with the off and they said, hey, we

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<v Speaker 1>need you to hide a body and we're going to

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<v Speaker 1>put it in this concrete in the basement of your club.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's a number of things that could have

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<v Speaker 2>gone wrong.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, needless to say, the guy that she had married

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<v Speaker 4>is the guy that the NYPD wants more information on.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, still with us.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what they think. His name is Donald Grant. At

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<v Speaker 4>least they believe his name is Donald Grant. They're very

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<v Speaker 4>interested in learning more information about him, whether he's still alive,

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<v Speaker 4>whoever it might be. What other names did the guy

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<v Speaker 4>actually use, because I mean, it would be obvious the

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<v Speaker 4>closest person to a missing or murdered person in this

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<v Speaker 4>case is going to be the one that's going to

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<v Speaker 4>have the most information about it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the obvious one.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, there's so much going around around a hot

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<v Speaker 1>club like this with big names that it's an easy

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<v Speaker 1>place to hide a mistake. Yeah, unfortunately, all right, John

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<v Speaker 1>kencho But if you know Donald Grant, John Kenshaw, how

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<v Speaker 1>about John John Covalo?

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<v Speaker 3>Did I say John and Ken show?

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<v Speaker 2>Where is Ken?

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<v Speaker 3>You have his number? He doesn't. He never gave me.

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<v Speaker 1>An let's see, the last time Ken wrote back to me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm new here, so you have to forgive me,