Speaker 1: And I just turned around and I call ass out
Speaker 1: of there. I was done. I wasn't dealing with them.
Speaker 2: The hypocrisy of the cult is one of the things
Speaker 2: that turned me.
Speaker 1: Away the quickest.
Speaker 2: When I turned my head lights on, it turned and
Speaker 2: looked at us. And one of the things I remember
Speaker 2: the most where the eyes were going red.
Speaker 1: I see an orb of light. It is just circling
Speaker 1: these steps like it is waiting for me.
Speaker 2: And he begins to tell them that he saw a UFO.
Speaker 1: They're basically like, what are you talking about.
Speaker 2: That's seven foot up on a tree, peeking around it,
Speaker 2: and that's where I saw the top of the muzzle,
Speaker 2: nose and the eyes.
Speaker 1: As soon as I made eye contact with this thing,
Speaker 1: I don't like death.
Speaker 2: Welcome back to Tin Foyle tells. I'm your host, Brandon
Speaker 2: and I were joined by my guest Dylan. Dylan, thanks
Speaker 2: for coming on here and talking with me.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Brandon, thanks for having me on.
Speaker 2: Would you like to let the audience know a little
Speaker 2: bit about yourself before we jump into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got a thirty year background in broadcasting and
Speaker 1: decided to write a book called Lucifer's Flat Earth and
Speaker 1: because I knew nobody would listen to me, I decided
Speaker 1: to give the most notable liar in the history of
Speaker 1: creation the honor of narrating the book. So the book
Speaker 1: is narrated by Lucifer and he is a proponent of
Speaker 1: the flat Earth. But I've been doing radio pretty much
Speaker 1: for thirty years, and writing this book has been a
Speaker 1: real adventure, a lot of pushback, But as time goes on,
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying the heat. So I'm ready to go when
Speaker 1: you are.
Speaker 2: When you first come across the idea for flat Earth?
Speaker 2: Was this something that you've come into being a flat
Speaker 2: earth or believer in the last few years, or's it
Speaker 2: been something that's progressed over the last ten to twenty years.
Speaker 2: I feel like there's been an uptill recently.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there has been. Back in twenty fifteen, I was
Speaker 1: doing a radio show on Republic Broadcasting Network and a
Speaker 1: caller asked me if I ever heard of the flat Earth,
Speaker 1: and I said, yeah, of course I have. It's ridiculous,
Speaker 1: and he said, why don't you do your own investigative
Speaker 1: work before you jump to any kind of judgment. So
Speaker 1: what I promised the audience is I'm going to do
Speaker 1: a deep dive, and this is in twenty fifteen. I'm
Speaker 1: going to do a deep dive on flat Earth to
Speaker 1: disprove it, and every night I will update you. And
Speaker 1: what happened was over a period of three months, I
Speaker 1: started giving percentages. When I first got into it, it
Speaker 1: was ninety ten. You know, I was open to the idea.
Speaker 1: But after about three months, I was fifty one forty nine,
Speaker 1: and one night it flipped fifty one forty nine in
Speaker 1: favor of flat Earth, and I started talking about the
Speaker 1: journey from becoming a believer and the previous fifty eight
Speaker 1: years of my life as a non believer. But this
Speaker 1: journey of flat Earth has opened my eyes to so
Speaker 1: many things, including what's going on right now in the world,
Speaker 1: what happened in twenty twenty with the COVID shots, and
Speaker 1: where all of this is going with transhumanism, alchemy, divine duality.
Speaker 1: There were so many subjects that opened up because of
Speaker 1: flat Earth. When I wrote the book, Initially, I was
Speaker 1: just going to write about that subject, but all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, I'm talking about alchemy, Freemasonry, the Third Temple,
Speaker 1: third War, transhumanism, man with machine, elon Musk, all of
Speaker 1: these other subjects became part of the germination that originated
Speaker 1: with flat Earth. So from flat Earth the book expanded
Speaker 1: into a multi bascid subject matter. And it's been a
Speaker 1: trip I've really enjoyed the last eleven years, despite all
Speaker 1: the pushback i've been.
Speaker 2: It is one thing that you will encounter. I figure
Speaker 2: that out when you start to do things that kind
Speaker 2: of rock the boat for people, you get a lot
Speaker 2: of criticisms. You get a lot of green people saying
Speaker 2: you're crazy, and all sorts of topics that you mentioned
Speaker 2: the people that they've refused to believe in, and some
Speaker 2: are so dug in even if you present facts or
Speaker 2: proof there still won't accepted.
Speaker 1: It's true. I'm in the process right now of selling
Speaker 1: my house and I had a woman who was very interested.
Speaker 1: She had her husband come over for a second visit.
Speaker 1: He walks into my house and this is a week ago,
Speaker 1: and he had a Blue Origin T shirt on, which
Speaker 1: of course is Jeff Bezos Space program. Well, he walks
Speaker 1: into my office and I've got a flat Earth map.
Speaker 1: I'm a cater map And they didn't call back after that,
Speaker 1: so I think flat Earth has actually cost me the
Speaker 1: sale of my house. But again, it's just one of
Speaker 1: those incidental moments where you go, are you willing to
Speaker 1: pay the price? Are you willing to be ridiculed, mocked
Speaker 1: or a belief that you believe is true? And really,
Speaker 1: when you think about it, when you go way down
Speaker 1: the rabbit hole, I can't think of a subject matter
Speaker 1: besides flat Earth that has such a visceral reaction from people.
Speaker 1: People go out of their mind when you mentioned the
Speaker 1: F word.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've had that happen. I used to be the
Speaker 2: same way. To be honest, like I I'm kind of
Speaker 2: on the fence about a lot of stuff because I
Speaker 2: don't really lean one way or the other because I
Speaker 2: don't believe everything they say about space because it doesn't
Speaker 2: Just because it doesn't make sense to me doesn't mean
Speaker 2: it's not true. But at the same time, when you
Speaker 2: look into flatters stuff, a lot of that stuff makes
Speaker 2: more sense to me than their explanation for space. So
Speaker 2: it's like I'm not trying to say I'm a flatter,
Speaker 2: They're not trying to say I'm a globe card like
Speaker 2: they get called or whatever. But at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like I don't it's hard to wrap my brain
Speaker 2: around the process of why we're being kept in the
Speaker 2: darkness of everything, like if we really are on a
Speaker 2: flat plane of existence, and what is the point of
Speaker 2: keeping it all a secret? And at the same time,
Speaker 2: it's like how many people are involved in the cover up?
Speaker 2: It just seems kind of crazy.
Speaker 1: And the truth is not many. Take NASA for example,
Speaker 1: I say that NASA is the largest film studio in
Speaker 1: the world. They're not a space program, They're a film studio.
Speaker 1: And there was even a movie a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: fly Me to the Moon Starling Scarlett Johansson, a mainstream
Speaker 1: movie where the plot was, let's come up with a
Speaker 1: backup plan in case we don't get to the moon.
Speaker 1: Let's film it on a sound stage, just in case.
Speaker 1: It was all about the space race with the Russians
Speaker 1: and Kennedy saying we would land on the Moon before
Speaker 1: the end of the decade. But that is the question,
Speaker 1: how could so many people be in on the conspiracy?
Speaker 1: And the answer is you don't have to have a
Speaker 1: lot of people. There were only twelve astronauts that landed
Speaker 1: quote unquote on the Moon. They're in on it. The
Speaker 1: people that live on the top floor of the NASA
Speaker 1: skyscraper are in on it, and that's about it. Everything
Speaker 1: else is a good part metalized. I believe most of
Speaker 1: the people that work in NASA honestly believe that the
Speaker 1: Earth is round and that they're doing a good job.
Speaker 1: And really they're just doing a particular job. Some might
Speaker 1: work on the helium or the hydrogen, or the space
Speaker 1: capsule or the parachutes, but it's all compartmentalized. No one
Speaker 1: has an overall view of what's happening, and because of
Speaker 1: that they can keep this lie going. And it's the
Speaker 1: same thing with the world. You know, if you believe
Speaker 1: in the Illuminati, and that basically the Rothschilds and the
Speaker 1: Rockefellas set a lot of this in motion, and that
Speaker 1: perhaps even these people that run the world are reptilian.
Speaker 1: There's people like David Ike that believe that. But I
Speaker 1: do agree with all of these people in that there's
Speaker 1: very few people in on it. For example, the Antarctic Treaty,
Speaker 1: which was initiated back in nineteen fifty eight, all of
Speaker 1: the nations agreed not to go to Antarctica. How is
Speaker 1: it that that treaty is still in effect but we
Speaker 1: can't even unwine the Gulf.
Speaker 2: Of Hormuz, right, that's a Now there's been people I've
Speaker 2: brought this up before, that you can't go to Antarctica,
Speaker 2: and I've gotten argued with by other people saying that
Speaker 2: yes you can. You can take trips down there, you
Speaker 2: can pay money to go on a tour down there,
Speaker 2: but they don't actually let you get off and explore
Speaker 2: the continent. They take you on a specific route and
Speaker 2: you can see certain things, but that you don't have
Speaker 2: free rain to just roam around Antarctica.
Speaker 1: No, you don't. You can go on the coastline, but
Speaker 1: you can't go into the interior. As a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: I've got a little thing here. I've got the book
Speaker 1: pulled up. Since we're just doing sound i can access
Speaker 1: the book. You know, there's a couple of really bizarre
Speaker 1: arts to this Antarctic Treaty, and one of them is
Speaker 1: the climate. For example, if we live on a ball,
Speaker 1: you would assume that the climate and the Arctic and
Speaker 1: the Antarctic would be similar one in fact, it isn't.
Speaker 1: If you go up to Alaska, and I've been up
Speaker 1: there in the summer, you go to Fairbanks, they're growing
Speaker 1: vegetables at the same latitude in the southern hemisphere, it's
Speaker 1: much colder, and it's very rare that temperature gets above
Speaker 1: zero Antarctica. If the Earth was actually a ball, you
Speaker 1: would assume that both of the climates are similar, but
Speaker 1: they're actually quite diverse. And then if you really pulled
Speaker 1: back the veil and you talk about Admiral Bird and
Speaker 1: his adventures, he actually explored inner Antarctica, and his diary,
Speaker 1: which came out after his death by his son, talks
Speaker 1: about flying about seven hundred miles past the ice wall
Speaker 1: and it actually started to get warmer and he actually
Speaker 1: went into the Earth. I also believe that the Earth
Speaker 1: is not only flat, but that it's hollow, and that
Speaker 1: there's a second Sun in it. So you have all
Speaker 1: these organizations. You have the International Marine Organization, World Meteorological Organization,
Speaker 1: International Civic Aviation, the Air Map of the World, all
Speaker 1: of them in the United Nations all display a flat
Speaker 1: Earth map. And then the un their map is divided
Speaker 1: into thirty three free Masonic sections. So as a flat Earther,
Speaker 1: we believe that the South Pole doesn't exist, that the
Speaker 1: continent of Antarctica does have a distinct interior frozen border
Speaker 1: well over two hundred feet in high that's the ice wall,
Speaker 1: and the reality is the round Earth, or say Antarctica
Speaker 1: is eleven thousand miles, when in fact, if you look
Speaker 1: at the Book of Enoch and the Secret Teachings of Enoch,
Speaker 1: it's sixty thousand miles. So the flat Earth is a
Speaker 1: lot bigger than the round Earth, which is twenty four
Speaker 1: nine and one miles, and magnetic North Pole is at
Speaker 1: the center of the flat Earth. The best way to
Speaker 1: describe it is really like a pizza, and if you
Speaker 1: look down on a pizza, you'll see the crust that's
Speaker 1: the ice wall, and then the interior of the pizza
Speaker 1: is where all the nations are. And then if you
Speaker 1: put the pizza on the table, that's what's coming after
Speaker 1: the ice wall. We don't know how far out it
Speaker 1: goes and where the dome meets the flat Earth, but
Speaker 1: we do know that if you try to go and
Speaker 1: find out for yourself, they'll kill you.
Speaker 2: I don't know how to like say, like, when I
Speaker 2: think about flat it's weird. Even when the shapes are
Speaker 2: like we say, we're not on a sphere, but yet
Speaker 2: the maps are usually still rounded. And then there's a
Speaker 2: dome which would still give it like half of that
Speaker 2: spherical appearance, So the dome portion of it, what would
Speaker 2: actually be what is the dome of Because there's been
Speaker 2: different people that I've spoken to, and they've all got
Speaker 2: their own different opinions of what the actual dome is.
Speaker 2: What do you think the dome is made out of?
Speaker 1: What I'm doing as well, I'm talking, I'm actually pulling
Speaker 1: it up. I've got a little little feature on my
Speaker 1: computer that allows me to pull up certain words. Okay,
Speaker 1: and this is Lucifer talking. I'm just gonna read a
Speaker 1: little bit from the book here, and he narrates Lucifer's
Speaker 1: flatter Earth. This is what he says, allow me to
Speaker 1: paint a picture of my earthly kingdom from above. The
Speaker 1: flat earth resembles a frisbee with an exterior frosted edge.
Speaker 1: Thirty five hundred miles above the surface is the sea
Speaker 1: firmament dome, and that encloses the flat Earth. So what
Speaker 1: you have is an enclosed system. And really the Truman
Speaker 1: Show is in fact a good replica of what the
Speaker 1: flat Earth looks like. And ironically, the gentleman who played
Speaker 1: Christoff was the god of the flat Earth. Forget his
Speaker 1: last name, Harris at Harris, Yeah, at Harris. But the
Speaker 1: dome itself, there's a thing called Libyan silica glass. Have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of this?
Speaker 2: I know it silica glasses, but I'm not the other
Speaker 2: part too it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, some people believe that's what the dome was made of.
Speaker 1: You had Operation I Jump, where Admiral Bird climbed the
Speaker 1: two hundred foot ice wall to explore interior Antarctica. And
Speaker 1: then you have a Project Dominic where they were shooting
Speaker 1: missiles at the dome and they couldn't penetrate it. They
Speaker 1: were actually trying to crack it. And apparently it is
Speaker 1: comprised of some sort of translucent material that is not
Speaker 1: necessarily found on Earth, but is impenetrable. And this material
Speaker 1: is in the shape of like when you have a
Speaker 1: turkey served. You know that dome. But if you consider
Speaker 1: that the Antarctic ice wall is sixty thousand miles in circumference,
Speaker 1: and then you put all of the continents within that arena,
Speaker 1: and then you extend out, probably you're looking at at
Speaker 1: least one thousand miles in all directions from the ice
Speaker 1: wall before you might even encounter the firmament. And then
Speaker 1: the question is how far does the Earth go after that,
Speaker 1: because we're in this terrarium. But that's not the end
Speaker 1: of it. There's something on the other side of that wall.
Speaker 1: What is it? Other nations, other worlds. We don't know
Speaker 1: because we're not allowed to go there.
Speaker 2: What do you believe made all of this?
Speaker 1: As in?
Speaker 2: Obviously you wrote the book from Lucifer's perspective, but it
Speaker 2: seems like it was done by design. Obviously, if there's
Speaker 2: a wall to keep us in here, it's been something
Speaker 2: that was designed for a reason. And I know a
Speaker 2: lot of flat Earthers kind of go with the biblical
Speaker 2: aspect to it, but I've also heard other ones claim
Speaker 2: it's part of the simulation.
Speaker 1: Well, I look at it from a Christian point of
Speaker 1: view because I am a Christian and a Biblical point
Speaker 1: of view, but I also understand the simulation point of view.
Speaker 1: I think it is June twelfth that Spielberg's movie comes
Speaker 1: out Disclosure Day. If it was actually revealed that we're
Speaker 1: not alone, I think there would be chaos. And let's
Speaker 1: say you woke up one morning and they could affirm
Speaker 1: that the Earth was flat. The first thing is going
Speaker 1: to happen is the stock market is going to crash,
Speaker 1: there will be pandemonium. A lot of people will just
Speaker 1: melt down. And also you'll see a lot of people
Speaker 1: heading towards the edge, heading towards Antarctica, wanting to find
Speaker 1: where the dome intercepts the Earth. And the reason that
Speaker 1: I believe they're keeping this a secret is what you said,
Speaker 1: and it's two words, intelligent design. If people discover that
Speaker 1: the Earth is flat, the first thing they're going to
Speaker 1: say is that's intelligent design. And then they might go
Speaker 1: down the road of a simulation. But a lot of
Speaker 1: people go down the road pursuing God. And if people
Speaker 1: pursue God and they're firm and they're secure in their
Speaker 1: relationship with God, then they can't be manipulated by the world.
Speaker 1: Right now, the world holds all of us in fear.
Speaker 1: You know, not to get political, but you know who
Speaker 1: gave his forty eight hour notice, or you know he
Speaker 1: was going to destroy all the power grids in Tehran.
Speaker 1: We live in a world where there's so much fear,
Speaker 1: and this world has no purpose, it has no meaning.
Speaker 1: And I actually covered that in the introduction of the
Speaker 1: book and also in the very last page of the book.
Speaker 1: If you don't mind I'd like to just read a paragraph,
Speaker 1: and it kind of answers your question, because he can
Speaker 1: do it a lot better than I can. It's believe
Speaker 1: a spinning ball traveling through a black void of endless
Speaker 1: space has produced a nihilistic, cynical society, the void of love,
Speaker 1: obsessed with materialism and indifferent to God. The heliocentric theory
Speaker 1: kills purpose while reinforcing a sense of hopelessness. However, the
Speaker 1: geocentric theory is an revolutionary and possibility which cannot be intellectualized.
Speaker 1: It's a revolutionary childlike belief, igniting the fuel of faith
Speaker 1: into an unquenchable fire that cannot be quantified, into a
Speaker 1: box of space and time that is the substance of God.
Speaker 1: Belief in flat earth compels an atheist to admit and
Speaker 1: acknowledge intelligent design created by an omnipotent being who controls
Speaker 1: the unfathomable. And that's why they won't tell us. I
Speaker 1: believe that's the number one reason.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it has to do with that.
Speaker 2: But then if they admit to that, and that they've
Speaker 2: been lying to us this whole time, then their entire
Speaker 2: means of control is also burn out. The window, and
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it has to do with
Speaker 2: keeping that power over people. Once that illusion is gone,
Speaker 2: then they can't control us anymore, and they continue to
Speaker 2: need us to do what they need us to do.
Speaker 2: So if they're they're afraid that by being truthful, then
Speaker 2: the whole scheme that they've done for centuries is lost.
Speaker 1: I live on the Space coast of Florida. I probably
Speaker 1: live about forty miles from the launch pad of Artemis
Speaker 1: Artemis to God, and if it was revealed that the
Speaker 1: Earth was flat, this area would go into an instant depression.
Speaker 1: So many people's jobs rely on the lie, and the
Speaker 1: lie has to be perpetuated otherwise people lose their employment,
Speaker 1: their wives leave them, and this area turns into a
Speaker 1: dust bowl. Everything's based on a lie, but here on
Speaker 1: the Space Coast of Florida, it's a lie plus one.
Speaker 2: Do you think there's ever going to come a time
Speaker 2: to where more people are willing to accept this. I know,
Speaker 2: like within the conspiracy realms and like this with people
Speaker 2: I talk to, they're a lot more open minded to it.
Speaker 2: But the average person, when you mentioned flat Earth, you're
Speaker 2: still going to think you're crazy.
Speaker 1: There's two types of people, those that were born before
Speaker 1: the Internet and those that were born after. Those that
Speaker 1: were born after the Internet are more open to this
Speaker 1: because they're more disillusioned. My generation, the Baby Boomers, we
Speaker 1: hang on to our lives. You know, we watched Neil
Speaker 1: Armstrong walk on the Moon. Walter Cronkite doesn't lie. There
Speaker 1: are only three channels. But those born after the advent
Speaker 1: of the Internet, especially Gen Z, are so disillusioned right now.
Speaker 1: They know the American dream, you know, as George Carlin said,
Speaker 1: they call it the American dream because you have to
Speaker 1: be asleep to believe it is true, and that they
Speaker 1: have no hope. They're completely disillusioned. So when someone mentions
Speaker 1: flat earth, I think this generation Gen Z is more
Speaker 1: open to it because they've got nothing left lose, as
Speaker 1: opposed to my generation, which is entrenched in its lies
Speaker 1: and comfortable in its lies and doesn't like to be
Speaker 1: shaken up. So the answer to your question is yes,
Speaker 1: the younger generation I believe will come in droves at
Speaker 1: some point and believe in the flat earth. But my generation,
Speaker 1: I think we're pretty well toasted.
Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned it that way, because, to be honest,
Speaker 2: I feel like the younger generations are the ones that
Speaker 2: are the harder ones to break through right now, because
Speaker 2: they are so and I know it's by design, but
Speaker 2: they don't have the I have children that are in
Speaker 2: this generation, so I'm using them as the example, but
Speaker 2: they don't have the mindset to actually look beyond whatever's
Speaker 2: on their screen in front of their face. And everything
Speaker 2: now is quick media, quick media, so they might be
Speaker 2: onto the conspiracy parts with on TikTok or something like that,
Speaker 2: but if it's not right in their face, right on
Speaker 2: their phone screen or whatever, I feel like they don't
Speaker 2: want to do the research in the way the schools
Speaker 2: have taught them and everything lately, it's like it's almost
Speaker 2: like a dumming of society.
Speaker 1: I agree. The book is under one hundred pages, and
Speaker 1: I wrote it purposely under one hundred pages because I
Speaker 1: knew that this generation doesn't have the attention span. And really,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking about maybe opening a TikTok account,
Speaker 1: not YouTube, but a TikTok account and just do little
Speaker 1: fifteen second snippets of flat Earth facts and do it
Speaker 1: from Lucifer's point of view, because the only way this
Speaker 1: generation is going to dial into this is to really
Speaker 1: be shocked into it because very little shocks them, and
Speaker 1: they're constantly on their phones. Hell, I'm on my phone
Speaker 1: and I'm a boomer. We're all subject to it. But
Speaker 1: I think the time is coming when they're going to go,
Speaker 1: you know, everything is bs. Let me at least check
Speaker 1: into it. I can check out some videos. Mark Sargent,
Speaker 1: he's a proponent of flat earth and a lot of
Speaker 1: people know him. Eric Dubay, there was a guy passed
Speaker 1: on in twenty sixteen. There are a lot of guys
Speaker 1: that are into flat earth and have YouTube channels. But
Speaker 1: I think that's the point is coming when people are
Speaker 1: going to lose all hope. And at that point, I
Speaker 1: really think that's going to be when flat Earth is
Speaker 1: going to shine, because it's going to be an attitude
Speaker 1: of well, I've got nothing left to lose. Let me
Speaker 1: go see if there's any channels on YouTube or TikTok
Speaker 1: that are talking about this subject.
Speaker 2: The way the world's going here in the last couple
Speaker 2: of years, I would not be surprised if something major
Speaker 2: doesn't happen here in the next couple of years. I
Speaker 2: know that they're talking about I actually just talked to
Speaker 2: someone recently and mentioned that. And I don't know how
Speaker 2: this will play out as far as this again, it's
Speaker 2: where I kind of get hung up on it. But like,
Speaker 2: how do they explain extraterrestrials on the flat Earth. Well,
Speaker 2: the name actually says it. If you listen extra terrestrial,
Speaker 2: like it would be like there's extra land. So maybe
Speaker 2: the aliens themselves that we call aliens, are from space.
Speaker 2: Maybe they're from on the other side of the firmament. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's Well, I.
Speaker 1: Believe and I believe in aliens, but I believe they're
Speaker 1: inner dimensional. They're not from outer space. You know, I
Speaker 1: was mentioning earlier in the book, I'm not just talking
Speaker 1: about flat Earth. I've got a chapter, chapter twelve, Project
Speaker 1: Blue Beam and Disclosure, and I'll just read a little
Speaker 1: bit on just a paragraph Project Blue. Project Blue Beam
Speaker 1: is part of the Strong Delusion, where our creators, the
Speaker 1: alien engineers, land on Earth and explain how they seated
Speaker 1: the planet via transpermia thousands of years ago, only finally
Speaker 1: to return and save us from self destruction while offering
Speaker 1: the gift of eternal life. And Spermia a modern evolutionary
Speaker 1: theory which postulates that life on Earth originated from micro
Speaker 1: organisms of four chemical precursors of life present in outer
Speaker 1: space and able to initiate life on reaching a suitable environment,
Speaker 1: and then he says, quite the hoax. You know. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you've seen the movie, the Ridley Scott movie Thank You.
Speaker 1: I don't have the air conditioning onto my house and
Speaker 1: I'm in Florida. The scene where the engineer meets the
Speaker 1: originator of the whole project, that dialogue was cut out,
Speaker 1: and apparently the engineers don't like us, but they're going
Speaker 1: to come under the guise of solving all of our problems.
Speaker 1: And I really think that's what the movie Disclosure Days about.
Speaker 2: From the looks of that and from what I've read
Speaker 2: is I feel like there's already people here that are,
Speaker 2: at least from the movie aspect, it looks like they're
Speaker 2: already possibly aliens or somehow connected to that. Again, I've
Speaker 2: only saw the trailer. I haven't done a whole lot
Speaker 2: of research into it. I feel like I feel like
Speaker 2: sometimes Hollywood tries to give you the nod and wink.
Speaker 2: They make it as entertainment, but I also think that
Speaker 2: they're letting us know that you know, there's some weird
Speaker 2: stuff going on. I think John Carpenter's They Live was
Speaker 2: very realistic to an extent.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I believe Spielberg is in on it.
Speaker 1: By in on it, I mean he's part of the elite.
Speaker 1: There's a couple of interesting moments in the trailer. One
Speaker 1: guy says, there are seven and a half million people,
Speaker 1: or rather there's seven billion people who need to know
Speaker 1: the truth. Well, there's actually eight billion people on Earth.
Speaker 1: So could it be that this movie takes place at
Speaker 1: a time right after a billion people disappear? Could that
Speaker 1: be the rapture? And then they cut to the nuns
Speaker 1: and you have that elderly nun in front clutching her glasses.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the trailer she does the
Speaker 1: voice over and she says, why would God create such
Speaker 1: a vast universe and leave it only for us? And
Speaker 1: so they're opening the door not to interdimensional beings, but
Speaker 1: extra dimensional from another world? Why is it so far
Speaker 1: fetched to believe that? And what if they came during
Speaker 1: a time of great upheaval, offered us free energy, a
Speaker 1: life extension, and basically solved most of the problems that
Speaker 1: mankind is facing right now. Who wouldn't sign up for
Speaker 1: something like that. I feel like, look what happened during COVID.
Speaker 1: Did it not shock you how everybody fell in line
Speaker 1: so easily?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a completely different topic for me. That is,
Speaker 2: I mean, that's the whole reason this show exists is
Speaker 2: because of all the sheepishness of society.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I went back to RBN. I did a show
Speaker 1: there from twenty fourteen to twenty seventeen, and then I
Speaker 1: came back in twenty twenty and stayed for a couple
Speaker 1: of years just to talk about the shot for two years,
Speaker 1: trying to discourage people from getting it. But the way
Speaker 1: people lined up without questioning, I think if an event
Speaker 1: occurred and it was done properly, people would line up
Speaker 1: again and get whatever shot is necessary to get a
Speaker 1: life extension.
Speaker 2: For people that are into their rel like the Biblical things.
Speaker 2: I've always thought this was odd that and you've mentioned
Speaker 2: that too, like a race came down here and offered
Speaker 2: as this technology or an extending of our life or whatever.
Speaker 2: If people pay attention to the Bible like that is
Speaker 2: actually kind of rootten out with like the Antichrist, like
Speaker 2: they will come, he will arise, and you have to
Speaker 2: take the mark of the Beast. I've often wondered its like,
Speaker 2: obviously I'm not calling Elon must the anti Christ, but
Speaker 2: he wants people to have neurolink. He wants people to
Speaker 2: be hooked up to these machines and you got to
Speaker 2: get that like thing. And they've talked about a world
Speaker 2: currency where it's like a digital currency, you get the
Speaker 2: little thing in your hand or whatever they were talking about.
Speaker 2: Do they not realize that a lot of the stuff
Speaker 2: that they're saying kind of goes into the whole anti
Speaker 2: Christ aspect to things. I was like, so, anyone that's
Speaker 2: actually against that, if you don't do it, you don't
Speaker 2: take the mark of the Beast, then you don't have money.
Speaker 2: You can't buy the good you do with one world government,
Speaker 2: one world income. And I don't know, like going down
Speaker 2: that rabbit hole makes me kind of question the way
Speaker 2: society is moving.
Speaker 1: Well, let me read another little snippet from the book
Speaker 1: Lucifer's Letter Earth, and this ties into what you're talking about. Now.
Speaker 1: This is Lucifer speaking. Once someone worships the statue by
Speaker 1: accepting the mark on their right hand or forehead, allegiance
Speaker 1: is validated and the dormant operating system within humanity is activated,
Speaker 1: free will is terminated, and the mind syncs up with
Speaker 1: the beast hive mind follow the money. The Luciferian elite
Speaker 1: need to create an all digital system with a central
Speaker 1: bank crypto under the deception of giving the poor access
Speaker 1: to bank accounts and easy payment systems. The entire world
Speaker 1: currency system could be streamlined into a one world digital
Speaker 1: currency pad to a crypto blockchain. When the world central
Speaker 1: bankers shut down the all digital bank accounts, they'll introduce
Speaker 1: of a crypto blockchain and a universal basic income, and
Speaker 1: of course anticipation in the new system will be contingent
Speaker 1: upon your compliance via acceptance of a social credit score.
Speaker 1: Now the image merging crypto blockchain to an implantable mind ship,
Speaker 1: and could it be that what would have would actually
Speaker 1: happen in twenty twenty people were actually being injected with
Speaker 1: something called graphene oxide, and perhaps it could be activated
Speaker 1: by some sort of signal which would be contingent upon
Speaker 1: your free will compliance into this new system.
Speaker 2: I've often wondered if the things that we don't get
Speaker 2: injected with haven't been doing that for ages, not just
Speaker 2: what in twenty twenty but and I'm not the anti
Speaker 2: vaccination person or anything like that. Obviously I've had them
Speaker 2: and my kids have had them, but it's I didn't
Speaker 2: none of us would and got the COVID jabs. But
Speaker 2: I've often wondered if that was actually something that they
Speaker 2: were doing. Who really knows what they really are injecting
Speaker 2: kids like it when my son was born. They give
Speaker 2: you so many vaccinations right at birth, and like, who
Speaker 2: the hell knows what they're actually putting in people?
Speaker 1: Well, and who the hell knows what we're all breathing.
Speaker 1: I mean, we all breathe in those coemptrails. Maybe we
Speaker 1: all have some kind of nanobot in us. I mean,
Speaker 1: who knows. Let me read one little more snippet from this,
Speaker 1: and this again is Lucifer talking one final vaccine containing
Speaker 1: the DNA of the angels. Arch Angels merge with the
Speaker 1: DNA of man, not just an insecure to a deadly pandem,
Speaker 1: but an upgrade and intelligence and a life extension of at
Speaker 1: least five hundred years. Once the Great Delusion is in motion,
Speaker 1: these interdimensional dark angels good, ask the pope if you
Speaker 1: could baptize them into the Babylonian Roman Catholic Church, where
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ came to earth as a hybrid god man.
Speaker 1: He carried the unique DNA construct, qualifying him to pay
Speaker 1: for the wages of sin. Yet a third of the
Speaker 1: angels rebelled against God. So what I'm saying is as
Speaker 1: it was in the days of Noah. This is exactly
Speaker 1: what we're seeing right now, the days of the Nephelum,
Speaker 1: the days of hybrids, the days of chimeras. And I
Speaker 1: believe that, you know, those Greek gods were not mythology,
Speaker 1: they were reality. That's why I believe God flooded the
Speaker 1: earth because the DNA got corrupted. You had dark angels
Speaker 1: having sex with women and animals and creating all these hybrids,
Speaker 1: and the whole earth was corrupted. And that's where we're
Speaker 1: heading right now. Like you mentioned with Elon Musk, you know,
Speaker 1: once you start messing with DNA, at some point you
Speaker 1: no longer are made in the image of God, and
Speaker 1: then you can be sent over to Satan.
Speaker 2: Kind of going back to with mentioning God and even
Speaker 2: like in the simulation and they call him like the Creator.
Speaker 2: I know people that consider it as if we are
Speaker 2: like playing it here and this is our Roalm our world.
Speaker 2: God would be the designer. He would be the creator,
Speaker 2: which we call him the creator. So he created our world.
Speaker 2: So if you look at it from that aspect, it's
Speaker 2: like he was the programmer. He designed all this. He
Speaker 2: made our world for us. But again, I even when
Speaker 2: I talk to people that are into this whole simulation theory,
Speaker 2: no one really has an idea as to why, Like,
Speaker 2: no one has the great answer as to what this
Speaker 2: is all about. Because even for me, it's like one
Speaker 2: of those questions that's always going to be asked, is
Speaker 2: like what's the point? Like what is the reason for
Speaker 2: all of this? No one's gonna happen like the definitive answer.
Speaker 2: But it's just one of these things.
Speaker 1: Even Paul the Apostle said, we look in the mirror
Speaker 1: as a poor reflection. No one has a handle on this.
Speaker 1: As I mentioned at the beginning, one of the reasons
Speaker 1: I enjoy talking about flat Earth is that it opened
Speaker 1: all these other doors. One of the one of the
Speaker 1: doors it opened was gnosticism. I took a real deep
Speaker 1: dive into Gnosticism in order to understand what's going on
Speaker 1: right now. You have to understand what gnostics believe Gnostics
Speaker 1: believe in what it's called divine duality. They believe there
Speaker 1: are two gods, Lucifer and God and the Demiurge we
Speaker 1: call in the Ancients of days, they call him the Demiurge,
Speaker 1: and that actually the god of the Bible, the Ancient
Speaker 1: of days. The Demiurge was created by Sophia by mistake,
Speaker 1: and he created the physical world. He took what was
Speaker 1: invisible and made it visible. That's one area where Luciferians
Speaker 1: and Christians agree. But what they believe that we don't
Speaker 1: is that Lucifer came down to Earth as the light bearer.
Speaker 1: And if you look at Rockefeller's Center, predominantly in front
Speaker 1: of it is Prometheus, which is another name for Lucifer,
Speaker 1: and you see that he has a light in his hand,
Speaker 1: a torch. So Lucifer came to earth to enlighten man,
Speaker 1: to give man eternal life. And the Demiurge, who is
Speaker 1: a jealous, scornful Basically, if they made Donald Trump a god,
Speaker 1: that's what he would be. The Demiurge. He wants all
Speaker 1: of the attention. He's a narcissist, he hates man, and
Speaker 1: Lucifer came to free us from the chains of the
Speaker 1: Demiurge and to give us eternal life. And when you
Speaker 1: understand that gnostic tenant, then everything begins to make sense.
Speaker 1: Free Masonry makes sense, Mormonism makes sense, the Illuminati, skull
Speaker 1: and Bones, all of it points to one thing, Lucifer
Speaker 1: coming down to Earth, giving man eternal life and man
Speaker 1: becoming a god like Lucifer. And in Revelation nineteen nineteen,
Speaker 1: when Jesus Christ comes down during the Second Coming, Lucifer
Speaker 1: gathers the armies of Earth to prevent the Demiurge from
Speaker 1: taking over. There was a guy named Russ Disdar. He
Speaker 1: wrote The Black of Awakening and he references that scripture.
Speaker 1: He believes and I also believe right now that Lucifer
Speaker 1: Satan is building his kingdom of Nephalim and an army
Speaker 1: that is actually going to fight against Jesus Christ when
Speaker 1: he comes back during the Second Coming. But part of
Speaker 1: that is Lucifer bestowing us with eternal life. And that
Speaker 1: goes right back to the Garden of Eden when Lucifer
Speaker 1: said to Eve, God doesn't want you to eat from
Speaker 1: the apple because then you'll be like God. So nothing
Speaker 1: has really changed, but the dynamics and the endgame has
Speaker 1: gotten much bigger and will be much more dramatic on
Speaker 1: a world stage.
Speaker 2: My biggest question when it came to religion was if
Speaker 2: God was the ultimate creator and he created the angels,
Speaker 2: and he knows what we're all going to do, and
Speaker 2: he knew everything that was going to happen beforehand. He
Speaker 2: knew at one point he was going to eat the apple,
Speaker 2: and he also knew the angels were going to rebel
Speaker 2: against him. So I never understood, like, from a religious standpoint,
Speaker 2: why God created that in the first place. If he
Speaker 2: knew that was going to happen, And that's.
Speaker 1: I on your question. He knew all that, and he
Speaker 1: also knew that he would eventually come down as a
Speaker 1: man and be tortured and murdered by his own creation.
Speaker 1: And he also knew that even after all of that
Speaker 1: and his word was proclaimed across the earth, that most
Speaker 1: people would still reject him and only a remnant would
Speaker 1: enter into his rest. So even after all of this,
Speaker 1: only a small portion percentage of mankind is actually going
Speaker 1: to enjoy eternal life. According to the Bible, it talks
Speaker 1: about the gateway being narrow and few finding. So God
Speaker 1: did all this knowing that the majority of the people
Speaker 1: would still reject him, and yet he still did all
Speaker 1: of this, including what you said.
Speaker 2: No, And depending on upon the religion aspect to it,
Speaker 2: I think, isn't it the uh? There's so many different
Speaker 2: denominations of Christianity. I think there's like forty something thousand
Speaker 2: different denominations. But I know the only thing, like one
Speaker 2: hundred and forty thousand Jehovah's witnesses go to heaven. Wouldn't
Speaker 2: you think over time that they've already had that many.
Speaker 1: Actually talked to Jehovah. When this week ago, I was
Speaker 1: at a supermarket called Winn Dixie and they were outside
Speaker 1: and I said, explaining one hundred and forty four thousand
Speaker 1: to me, because my understanding is it's twelve tribes of Israelites,
Speaker 1: twelve thousand each that evangelize in the last days, and
Speaker 1: I guess those are the only ones that go to heaven.
Speaker 1: And she said, no, they just get a special place.
Speaker 1: They go. What do you mean, well, they're special. They
Speaker 1: they have a special place with God. So you don't
Speaker 1: believe that God was actually Jesus Christ was actually God?
Speaker 1: And they go, no, he was just a prophet. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's very confusing once you get out of your wheelhouse.
Speaker 1: And even the Bible, you know, it says that God
Speaker 1: has to pull someone to him. When I was saved,
Speaker 1: I was living in Los Angeles and I was smoking
Speaker 1: a joint in a baptub and an earthquake hit. I
Speaker 1: never went through an earthquake in my life, and I
Speaker 1: went through my first one high Oh freaked out, and
Speaker 1: I had this guy witnessing to me at a warehouse
Speaker 1: I worked at, and so I gave my life to Christ.
Speaker 1: I got filled with the spirit, and that I believe
Speaker 1: was the result of God making himself known to me
Speaker 1: before I pursued him. In other words, what I've seen
Speaker 1: is that God pursues a person through the Holy Spirit,
Speaker 1: and then that person responds. But you know, even in
Speaker 1: the Bible, it says that Israel or the Jews have
Speaker 1: a veil over their eyes in regards to Christ, and
Speaker 1: that veil isn't going to be pulled off until the
Speaker 1: end day. So there's so many things that God does
Speaker 1: that makes absolutely no sense to us human beings. But
Speaker 1: if it is true that this earth is flat, and
Speaker 1: that he looks at the earth as his footstool, and
Speaker 1: he's looking down right on us, and Heaven is a
Speaker 1: lot closer. Then this is the center of the universe.
Speaker 1: And a couple interesting things about flat Earth. There's two
Speaker 1: immovable points in the universe. One is the flat Earth
Speaker 1: and the other is Polaris, the North Pole. Every night,
Speaker 1: all of the stars and the planets rotate around Polaris,
Speaker 1: that one star. They've been doing that for thousands of years,
Speaker 1: since the beginning of time, and it's the same circuit
Speaker 1: every night. My question is, how can they do a
Speaker 1: perfect circuit every night if the Earth is spinning at
Speaker 1: one thousand miles an hour, while going around the Sun
Speaker 1: at sixty six thousand miles an hour, while going upward
Speaker 1: at four hundred and eighty six thousand miles an hour,
Speaker 1: and the entire Milky Way expanding millions of miles per hour,
Speaker 1: it doesn't make any sense because in the summertime, all
Speaker 1: of those stars would be in a different position than
Speaker 1: they were in the winter if we were actually traveling
Speaker 1: around the Sun. But Polaris is probably the most damning
Speaker 1: piece of evidence that the Earth is flat, because everything
Speaker 1: revolves around Polaris in the exact same orbit every single
Speaker 1: night for thousands of years.
Speaker 2: I also don't understand how they they make us think
Speaker 2: that when we see these stars and there's so many
Speaker 2: light years away and that's just within our galaxy. And
Speaker 2: then I on they talk about like the Andromeda galaxy
Speaker 2: and all these other different galaxies, and it's like an
Speaker 2: infinite number of possibilities because what we see as a
Speaker 2: star could just be another galaxy with billions of other stars,
Speaker 2: and it'd be billions of other planets, and like it
Speaker 2: just it doesn't stop. And the endlessness of space just
Speaker 2: seems so far fetched that it's almost by like, in
Speaker 2: my opinion, it's designed to make it sound like we're
Speaker 2: in We don't We're not important, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Like it's to make us sound in fear, like we're
Speaker 2: just so minuscule on the grand scheme of things.
Speaker 1: One of the judgments Jesus talks about is the stars
Speaker 1: will fall from the sky. How the world and all
Speaker 1: of the stars fall from the sky onto planet Earth
Speaker 1: When these balls of fire are so much bigger than
Speaker 1: the Earth, It doesn't make any sense. And you know,
Speaker 1: the biggest pushback I get is actually from Christians, not atheists.
Speaker 1: Even in Genesis, right out of the gate chapter one,
Speaker 1: it says he divided the water from above in the
Speaker 1: water below, and Psalm nineteen talks about a firmament. So,
Speaker 1: if you believe the Bible, in the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 1: which I do, and the secret teachings of the Book
Speaker 1: of Enoch and the Book of Jasher, there's an ocean
Speaker 1: above us, and it's on the other side of the dome.
Speaker 1: And there aren't three heavens. According to the Book of Enoch,
Speaker 1: there's ten, ten different dimensions. But I believe in string theory,
Speaker 1: even as a Christian. And God himself said He's the Word,
Speaker 1: and that he created the visible from the invisible, and
Speaker 1: that he spoke it. I had my I had a
Speaker 1: cataract taken out last Friday, and I can see great
Speaker 1: and I asked them how they do it, and he
Speaker 1: said sound. I thought they used lasers. No, for cataract surgery,
Speaker 1: they use sound. They break up the cataract like a jackhammer,
Speaker 1: and then they suck it out and then they put
Speaker 1: in another lens. But getting back to how God created
Speaker 1: this place, everything was created by sound, and that gets
Speaker 1: back to Tesla. There was an amazing video that came
Speaker 1: out about ten years ago, and I can't remember the
Speaker 1: gentleman's name. But he did this experiment where he showed
Speaker 1: that matter responds to sound, and I think the word
Speaker 1: is so I'll try and pull it up during the
Speaker 1: course of our conversation. But everything revolves around sound, and
Speaker 1: God actually created everything by speaking it into existence.
Speaker 2: A lot of science and everything says that we're all
Speaker 2: frequency and vibration. Well, frequencies and vibration are usually sound.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big proponent of science. I think science
Speaker 1: is great. What I don't like is when they lie.
Speaker 2: I wonder if sometimes the science people that are telling
Speaker 2: the lies actually know that they're lying. I think a
Speaker 2: lot of them are honestly being honest about it. I
Speaker 2: don't think everyone is being deceitful, but I don't think
Speaker 2: they know any different.
Speaker 1: I agree. Yeah, Like I said, with NASA, most people
Speaker 1: that work in NASA believe the Earth is round, and
Speaker 1: they just go and do their job. Yeah, most people
Speaker 1: are honest and their belief.
Speaker 2: Here's something that I've always kind of wandered, and I
Speaker 2: don't know if it's ever really I know, like the
Speaker 2: idea of satellites for like a flat Earth, or like
Speaker 2: they how they orbit around or whatever. But when you
Speaker 2: have like direct TV or you have any of these
Speaker 2: dish things. They're always stationed in one position. But if
Speaker 2: we are constantly moving and the satellites are also rotating
Speaker 2: around us, how come they can pick up the same
Speaker 2: signal in the same exact location. Or they're saying that
Speaker 2: we're interlocked with our rotational pulse so they never move,
Speaker 2: which doesn't make sense becausef you ever watch the videos
Speaker 2: of what they're claiming satellites are doing, they're not interlocked.
Speaker 2: They're always rotating around us faster than we're rotating.
Speaker 1: Okay, and again I'll read from the book everything is
Speaker 1: to scale. Satellites are in close proximity to the flat Earth.
Speaker 1: Satellites are positioned in low or low Earth orbit below
Speaker 1: the dome. Everything is low low Earth orbit. And you
Speaker 1: know who the largest consumer of helium is on the
Speaker 1: flat Earth. It's NASA, because there are satellites, but they're
Speaker 1: helium balloons which are holding them up. Now you might
Speaker 1: ask the question about SpaceX, Well, how does that work
Speaker 1: with that? Then we get into the ether and we
Speaker 1: get into tesla because ether is lighter than air, and
Speaker 1: so when you get to a certain altitude, you do
Speaker 1: float and you can put objects in that arena in
Speaker 1: the ether, and it will stay aloft. I mean, think
Speaker 1: about this, twenty five thousand satellites, three hundred and seventy
Speaker 1: thousand pieces of junk haven't melted or crushed while orbiting
Speaker 1: the ball Earth as they're all going twenty two thousand
Speaker 1: miles an hour. It's crazy. And even the words satellite,
Speaker 1: I believe there was Arthur C. Clark who invented the word.
Speaker 1: And as far as your telephone, everything is land based.
Speaker 1: When you make a telephone call to Europe, it's actually
Speaker 1: going through the cables under the ocean and there are
Speaker 1: no satellite it's at twenty two thousand miles up. Let's
Speaker 1: work that way. I've got a little go here from
Speaker 1: the first chapter. Let me see if I can pull
Speaker 1: it up. It talked a little bit about triangulation. Oh
Speaker 1: you know what, I know, I'm all over the road,
Speaker 1: but I found the word. It's called sauno luminescence SnO luminescence.
Speaker 1: That is the emission of light from imploding bubbles in
Speaker 1: a liquid stimulated by sound. Sound through vibrations creates light.
Speaker 1: Would you say that again? Sonoluminescence the emission of light
Speaker 1: from imploding bubbles in a liquid, when stimulated by sound
Speaker 1: through vibrations, creates light. These are short bursts of light
Speaker 1: emitting imploding bubbles through a liquid with an intense acoustic frequency,
Speaker 1: and when displaced in water, the sound waves create heat
Speaker 1: in the form of light. I know that's heavy, but
Speaker 1: I spent like two years writing the book. A lot
Speaker 1: of it sout there. Man.
Speaker 2: When we talk about certain topics, it makes me wonder why,
Speaker 2: I mean, from the get go, and this is obviously
Speaker 2: I answer again that no one really knows. But like
Speaker 2: from the very get go of the thing, where did
Speaker 2: it start to be the lie? Like who started it?
Speaker 2: Who wanted to keep it going that way? And there's
Speaker 2: certain things I can't talk about because then it automatically
Speaker 2: gets me flagged for being against a certain type of people.
Speaker 2: But oh yeah, there's a lot of things that stimulate
Speaker 2: from that. And even if you go back into the
Speaker 2: original Bible version, like they are God's people. But that's
Speaker 2: where a lot of conspiracies kind of circulate around. And
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 1: The latest Pandora's box that I've opened. And we can
Speaker 1: talk about it. We'll just speak to it. We'll speak
Speaker 1: about it in code I don't necessarily believe those people
Speaker 1: are actually the actual residents of that land. That the
Speaker 1: original people are still dispersed across the world and they're
Speaker 1: more known as Ashkenazi's and that was all result of
Speaker 1: the Balford Agreement and the Rothschilds and all of that.
Speaker 1: So that might be the final piece that actually they're
Speaker 1: not who we think they are. It was that vague enough.
Speaker 2: Now I've had episodes before it and got flagged in
Speaker 2: a Again, I feel like that's by design, because now
Speaker 2: anytime someone questions any of the status quo, you're automatically
Speaker 2: getting flagged or labeled a certain type of hate. And
Speaker 2: it has nothing to that because I don't think it's
Speaker 2: every single person of that, but I think there's people
Speaker 2: in certain positions all around the world that have some
Speaker 2: sort of a background with it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and remember, from a Christian point of view, certain
Speaker 1: events have to take place, so even these people who
Speaker 1: appear to be running the world are not necessarily making
Speaker 1: these decisions. I do believe that at some point there
Speaker 1: will be a third Temple, only because it says the
Speaker 1: Antichrist will rule from that temple for forty two months,
Speaker 1: so in order for him to rule, he has to
Speaker 1: have that temple. But all of the other side issues
Speaker 1: seem to be coming delight and ironically, with this disagreement
Speaker 1: going on right now in Iran, it's even shocking to
Speaker 1: me how many people seem to be taking the side
Speaker 1: of Iran on this. There is a behavior.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there is a lot of stuff that I've found
Speaker 2: interesting in the sense that there's a lot of people
Speaker 2: that are not real thrilled with these people anymore. And
Speaker 2: obviously they're not really thrilled with the state of the
Speaker 2: United States either, which that is neither here nor there.
Speaker 2: But the whole thing to me, it screams like a
Speaker 2: bad reality TV show is as bad as it sounds like.
Speaker 2: I feel like every day that I wake up, I'm like,
Speaker 2: what is going to happen next? Because it's like this
Speaker 2: stupid show that we're all stuck watching and there's nothing
Speaker 2: we can do about it, no want, and it's.
Speaker 1: Going to go where it's gonna go, and there's nothing
Speaker 1: you can do about it.
Speaker 2: I want to change the channel, but it's on every
Speaker 2: network right We're.
Speaker 1: All in our own little Truman show. I think the
Speaker 1: difference between us and Jim Carry is Jim Carrey didn't
Speaker 1: know he was in a show, that he was on
Speaker 1: a sound stage, he was part of NASA until the
Speaker 1: end of the movie. We know in the middle and
Speaker 1: beginning of the movie that we are in the Truman Show.
Speaker 1: But still there's nothing we can do about it. And
Speaker 1: you know, from again from a Christian point of view,
Speaker 1: I look at it as this place is not my home.
Speaker 1: However I still have to live here. I still have
Speaker 1: to you know, make money and eat and be part
Speaker 1: of this world. Is very you know, I think the
Speaker 1: hardest thing for a Christian is to be in the
Speaker 1: world but not of it. I don't know how in
Speaker 1: the world to do that. And every day it's a
Speaker 1: struggle because, like you, I'll get up in the morning,
Speaker 1: I'll do my doom scroll and I'll try not to
Speaker 1: get irritated. You know, even with the latest you got
Speaker 1: forty eight hours and that's it and now, okay, now we'reotiating.
Speaker 1: It's like every day. You know, I'm a political atheist,
Speaker 1: but the only good thing about the previous president was
Speaker 1: that his mind was shot and he didn't do anything.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were days when it was just quiet
Speaker 1: with this guy. It's like every day it's drama and
Speaker 1: you just want to break. It's like and I just
Speaker 1: get up one day and have a normal day without
Speaker 1: the world being on edge, And the answer is no,
Speaker 1: not anymore.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Well, we've been going on for about an
Speaker 2: hour and I figure we can get close to wrapping
Speaker 2: this up. But before we do, is there anything else
Speaker 2: that you would like to discuss before we end?
Speaker 1: Ith? The thing is your transhuman is I'm getting back to
Speaker 1: Elon Musk. Really, what all of this comes down to,
Speaker 1: I believe, is merging man with machine. I was watching
Speaker 1: the video in the year twenty five, twenty five on
Speaker 1: YouTube while I was working out today. It's so true.
Speaker 1: Man wants to become a god, and I think at
Speaker 1: some point he's going to be offered that opportunity. But
Speaker 1: in exchange, he'll no longer be a man, and he'll
Speaker 1: no longer be eligible for salvation, He'll no longer be
Speaker 1: made in the image of God. And I think that's
Speaker 1: where all of this is going to create a new man,
Speaker 1: a transhuman where there is no government and the transhumanists
Speaker 1: run this place, and that's where I think this is going.
Speaker 1: So I guess that would be my closing comment.
Speaker 2: This is where I kind of come in with that
Speaker 2: because it makes me I would never do it with
Speaker 2: my own free will, but I have a feeling I
Speaker 2: know how it's going to get parlaid to people, and
Speaker 2: I see how it'll get in live manipulation. But they
Speaker 2: claim that they can put this chip in there and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, people that have medical issues, like
Speaker 2: some say that they're paralyzed, well they can now walk again.
Speaker 2: They're going to promise all these great things that this
Speaker 2: thing can do for people, and I see people falling
Speaker 2: for it, and they're going to it could probably actually
Speaker 2: maybe it does do what they claim it does. But
Speaker 2: you're getting into that point to where you're no longer
Speaker 2: a human because now you're being controlled by a machine.
Speaker 2: And at one point, what happens when they decide that
Speaker 2: they're going to take over that machine. Now you're completely
Speaker 2: controlled by this little chip that's now programmed into you,
Speaker 2: and now you're being reprogrammed to serve a different purpose.
Speaker 1: The number sixty sixty six is not the number of
Speaker 1: the beasts. It is the number of man. Now six
Speaker 1: six sixty six percent two thirds when Adam and Eve,
Speaker 1: and this is what I believe Adam and Eve were
Speaker 1: in the garden. They actually wore their spirit on the outside.
Speaker 1: They were in perfect harmony with the creation and with
Speaker 1: God before the fall. In other words, they could telepathically
Speaker 1: communicate with God at any time they want. They were
Speaker 1: a hole, they were one. After the fall, Man became
Speaker 1: two thirds six six six. What Lucifer is going to promise,
Speaker 1: and what the Antichrist is going to promise through transhumanism,
Speaker 1: is that we'll give you that third strand of DNA.
Speaker 1: Right now, man has two strands of DNA forty six chromosomes.
Speaker 1: But the promise is we will give you that third
Speaker 1: strand of DNA, which will give you eternal life, allow
Speaker 1: you to communicate telepathically. You'll never get sick again, and
Speaker 1: you will be one with Lucifer. That's the promise, and.
Speaker 2: Anyone that's a religious person should know not to do that.
Speaker 2: But again, the even with the anti Christ in the
Speaker 2: end of times, he will pull the wool over a
Speaker 2: lot of people's eyes. And I've often wondered, and maybe
Speaker 2: this will get me in trouble with certain people, But
Speaker 2: the depictions that we have that are like mainstream of Christ,
Speaker 2: obviously he's not going to look like the normal version
Speaker 2: that we have been shown throughout our times, because he's
Speaker 2: not going to look like a white person. Obviously, back
Speaker 2: in those times, Jesus wouldn't have been a white man
Speaker 2: like he's been depicted as at least that I'm aware
Speaker 2: of through here. But if he is to come back
Speaker 2: and start doing all the certain things, wouldn't you feel
Speaker 2: like he would actually resemble what we know of as
Speaker 2: Jesus to look like now, and he would people would
Speaker 2: see the miracles that he's doing, and they'd actually believe
Speaker 2: that he is the real Christ returned.
Speaker 1: In the Book of Isaiah, it prophesies what Christ would
Speaker 1: look like, and it basically says he's a man, a
Speaker 1: common man, of no particular beauty, that he is in
Speaker 1: fact ugly, whereas the Antichrist is described as a man
Speaker 1: of eloquence, articulation, and beauty. So the package they're going
Speaker 1: to present, think of what it was like in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and how many people fell for it over a hamburger
Speaker 1: will maybe a hamburger if you get the jab. I
Speaker 1: remember walking in Walmart and you had to walk a
Speaker 1: certain way down the aisle. You had to put your
Speaker 1: mask on. If they hit Americans where they live, which
Speaker 1: is our wallet and the system, the petro dollar. It's destroyed.
Speaker 1: And they come out and they say, we got to
Speaker 1: get on blockchain. But in order to get on blockchain,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to physically get your body dialed in.
Speaker 1: Right now, we have the Internet. What they're going to
Speaker 1: build is what's called the Internet of Things, which is
Speaker 1: where all the devices are connected like a smart refrigerator.
Speaker 1: The final step is the Internet of bodies. This is
Speaker 1: where they connect your body to the Internet. Not only
Speaker 1: will all things be connected to the Internet, you will
Speaker 1: be connected to the Internet, and that will unveil the
Speaker 1: hive mind where everyone literally has the same thoughts and
Speaker 1: no one thinks for themselves, and the actual free will
Speaker 1: is gone, and you become something other than a human being,
Speaker 1: and you're tied into this matrix and you can't get out,
Speaker 1: and then at that point then you're in the simulation
Speaker 1: occurs when the hive mind kicks in through the Internet
Speaker 1: of Things, in the Internet of bodies.
Speaker 2: So I'm just thinking, like I often wonder how many
Speaker 2: people we'll still accept it even if they know that
Speaker 2: they shouldn't, and how many will still fall for it.
Speaker 2: That's just the way I feel about society. I know
Speaker 2: it's a bad way to end it, but like, I
Speaker 2: just feel like as a society, we're all pretty much
Speaker 2: going to just line right up like the sheep that
Speaker 2: most people tend to be, and just go right along
Speaker 2: with and accept it, like, hey, we're shutting down the world.
Speaker 2: You got to come get your little injection here, and
Speaker 2: you got to come get grab your free cheeseburger, and
Speaker 2: you got to come do this, You got to come
Speaker 2: take that. This is how we're going to go from
Speaker 2: now on in Like a vast majority of people are
Speaker 2: just going to stand in line because we have no
Speaker 2: other choice.
Speaker 1: So they think, yeah, I agree, I have no hope
Speaker 1: for humanity. I have hope for individuals within society that
Speaker 1: they may get saved, but I still believe it's going
Speaker 1: to be a remnant. The one thing about flat earth
Speaker 1: is that when people believe in it, it leads them
Speaker 1: to intelligent design, and a lot of them become Christians
Speaker 1: because they go, well, it's obvious that somebody built this place.
Speaker 1: Let me find out who built it. But the majority
Speaker 1: of people are doomed. And until you accept that and
Speaker 1: also accept the fact that our purpose, at least what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. My purpose is to bring as many people
Speaker 1: into the Kingdom as possible, and I believe by talking
Speaker 1: about flat Earth, I'm doing that. But I expect a
Speaker 1: failure rate to far exceed my success. I have sent
Speaker 1: out thousands of emails about this book and I've hardly
Speaker 1: gotten any response. I kind of expect that because that's
Speaker 1: just the way it is.
Speaker 2: Before we end this, I would like for you to
Speaker 2: let everyone know where they can find your book at
Speaker 2: It's really easy.
Speaker 1: You can find it at Amazon. The name of the
Speaker 1: book is Lucifers flat Earth Lucifers Flat Earth by Dylan Campbell,
Speaker 1: and you can get paperback, hardback, audio, ebook. It's got
Speaker 1: all the formats. But yeah, Amazon is where you would
Speaker 1: buy it.
Speaker 2: Before we wrap this up, I do have to say
Speaker 2: it just from experience, the people that are closest with
Speaker 2: you when you bring up this type of stuff, do
Speaker 2: they know that you've written this book and how do
Speaker 2: they feel about it?
Speaker 1: My daughter who runs well, she's a manager for marketing
Speaker 1: international marketing firm. She's very smart. She said, if I
Speaker 1: believe in this, I'm going to do it in the closet.
Speaker 1: I think she is open to it and kind of
Speaker 1: believes it, but she'll never admit it because she knows
Speaker 1: she'll be ostracized and may lose her job. My son,
Speaker 1: I'm still working on him, but he has gotten to
Speaker 1: the point where he sees that everything is a lie.
Speaker 1: So maybe there's a possibility this could be a lie
Speaker 1: to other than that. I really don't associate with many
Speaker 1: people anymore, and I don't really bring up the topic
Speaker 1: unless I feel that individual is open to it. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing it that just hit people over the head
Speaker 1: and shock them and create controversy. If there's a conversation
Speaker 1: that leads to it, I'll talk about it. I'm not
Speaker 1: worried about rejection. I've gotten so much of that in mocking.
Speaker 1: I think if you're not experiencing any rejection, anger, or mocking,
Speaker 1: you're really not doing your job in this world. You know,
Speaker 1: even Jesus said, don't think I came into the world
Speaker 1: to bring peace. I came to divide mother against father,
Speaker 1: father against son. Your worst enemies will be in your
Speaker 1: own household, So if you're not in a battle, you're
Speaker 1: probably not where you need to be.
Speaker 2: That's actually a good way to look at things. Because
Speaker 2: I usually get annoyed when people want to argue with
Speaker 2: me about certain things, and I don't want to argue
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Like that's not what
Speaker 2: I don't want to argue with people. I don't want
Speaker 2: to do. But I see the comments that I get,
Speaker 2: I see the hate that people have to say. I
Speaker 2: see when they leave, every comment gets notified to me,
Speaker 2: and like the last five comments from Spotify have all
Speaker 2: been negative, which if someone's not I look at it
Speaker 2: this way. At least they're commenting, and so that means
Speaker 2: they're listening. They might not agree with it, they might
Speaker 2: have things to say about it, but at least they listened.
Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I try to
Speaker 2: ignore all that stuff. But it's very hard to do well.
Speaker 1: My adage and I didn't come up with it. But
Speaker 1: I'm through fighting people, places and things. That's not my job.
Speaker 1: My job. I really believe that, as crazy as it sounds,
Speaker 1: I've been commissioned to talk about this because I can't
Speaker 1: let it go. I don't know what it is, but
Speaker 1: this topic just has a hold on me because I
Speaker 1: know that it leads people to God, and if that's
Speaker 1: what happens I'm willing to put up with all the crap.
Speaker 1: But aside from it, like when I go to walk
Speaker 1: my dog in the morning, you know, I'll be praying
Speaker 1: and I'll see the sun and I'll say, you know, God,
Speaker 1: thank you for the sun, thank you for the moon.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the water above, the water below the earth.
Speaker 1: Thank you for the food and the shelter. You know.
Speaker 1: I try to maintain gratitude, but I also try to
Speaker 1: mix in flat earth jargon, because when I see the
Speaker 1: Sun moving across the sky, it's moving. It's not the
Speaker 1: Earth that's spinning. It's the Sun that's moving. It's the
Speaker 1: Moon that's moving, It's the stars. We are center stage
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, in this terrarium. We are at the
Speaker 1: center of the universe. We are not some mistake. And
Speaker 1: God is very close. The Sun is very close, the Moon,
Speaker 1: all of it is very close to scale. And this
Speaker 1: Earth is a hell of a lot bigger than we've
Speaker 1: been told. And every day I just marvel at his creation. Unbelievable.
Speaker 2: There's one thing that I've actually thought about, and I
Speaker 2: know we're going to wrap this up, but I just
Speaker 2: thought about this. I had this conversation with someone at
Speaker 2: work not too long ago. At what point are the
Speaker 2: people that believe that we're on a spinning ball? At
Speaker 2: what point do we leave Earth and we continue on,
Speaker 2: Say we're on a rocket or a balloon or whatever,
Speaker 2: and we're going into the space, And at what point
Speaker 2: does it no longer look flat for us? Like when
Speaker 2: we're landing, the angles and the shifting, it turns to
Speaker 2: a flat perspective. But when you get into space, like
Speaker 2: when you see it, it's rounded and everything else. But
Speaker 2: when we come back down to Earth, all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: that shifts back to being how we see it right now.
Speaker 2: Like you and I are just sitting in our chair
Speaker 2: looking out, everything looks flat like this way. But if
Speaker 2: we're in space and it's curved, at what point does
Speaker 2: our vision shift to where it's no longer flat looking well?
Speaker 1: And that's where the deception is. The deception is in
Speaker 1: the lens. When you see that curvature, that's the result
Speaker 1: of a fish eye lens, and a GoPro is a
Speaker 1: great example of a fish eye lens where there's curvature.
Speaker 1: Anytime there's a shot of Earth without a fish eye lens,
Speaker 1: it's always flat and the horizon always comes up to
Speaker 1: meet you. And that's just the way it is. If
Speaker 1: you stand on the beach, you can see three miles.
Speaker 1: If you take out a pair of binoculars, you can
Speaker 1: probably pull it in about six miles, and you can
Speaker 1: pull in any boats that are between three and six miles.
Speaker 1: And then the question is, well, why can't we see Spain. Well,
Speaker 1: then you have dew and mist and dust and pollution.
Speaker 1: But is the Earth perfectly flat? I believe it's more
Speaker 1: like a frisbee. If you took a frisbee and turned
Speaker 1: it upside down and you kind of have a concave shape,
Speaker 1: and then you have that edge, that two hundred foot
Speaker 1: high ice wall. But that's what's given the curvature. It's
Speaker 1: the fish eye lens. If they just used the regular lens,
Speaker 1: it would be straight. I posted a video on a
Speaker 1: website a couple of years ago. It was taken by
Speaker 1: the Chinese, and it was a low earth shot, a
Speaker 1: low Earth orbit shot, and the Earth was perfectly flat.
Speaker 1: They either forgot or purposely didn't attach a fish eye lens.
Speaker 1: So again the answer to your question is it's always flat.
Speaker 1: It's a question of what lens are they using at
Speaker 1: that altitude.
Speaker 2: That's kind of where I'm coming from. Is like if
Speaker 2: we were to be in space, like when they show
Speaker 2: the Earth from space quote unquote, like and it's rounded
Speaker 2: in a spinning and say like they're doing a space
Speaker 2: walk and you see Earth in the background. Well if
Speaker 2: they're above, say the United States, and you can see
Speaker 2: the United States from throughout the clouds and everything else.
Speaker 2: But so you land, like you're going to land right
Speaker 2: back on Earth, so you're coming in at an angle,
Speaker 2: say that we're coming in from like a forty five
Speaker 2: degree angle, but you're heading directly from this from space,
Speaker 2: so you're still seeing it from a side point of view,
Speaker 2: but all of a sudden, the side point of view
Speaker 2: now is a flat, Like at what point does it
Speaker 2: go from side to flat? Like when we're landing. That's
Speaker 2: what I'm talking about. It is like no one's been
Speaker 2: able to explain that to me because they don't have
Speaker 2: an explanation for that, because there's no way to understand it.
Speaker 2: Because if you're in space, you're coming in from a
Speaker 2: side angle. But now once you're landing, it's not at
Speaker 2: an angle anymore, Like, at what point did it shift
Speaker 2: our perspective to be normal? Like we see it right now,
Speaker 2: but on on.
Speaker 1: When a pilot's flying a jet, logically he'd have to
Speaker 1: nose down during the entire trip, otherwise he would just
Speaker 1: fly off into space. And the artificial horizon, the instrument
Speaker 1: in the in the in the cockpit is actually a
Speaker 1: mechanical gyroscope, and all it does is seek its own level.
Speaker 1: So once they attain altitude, if if you're cruising at
Speaker 1: thirty five thousand feet, that artificial horizon bar is right
Speaker 1: in the middle and you're just flying straight and level,
Speaker 1: how can you do that on a curved ball Earth?
Speaker 1: You have to You'd have to tilt down the nose
Speaker 1: constantly in order to not fly off into space.
Speaker 2: Someone made the argument that it's for every square mile
Speaker 2: is eight inches, so it's so minuscule that you wouldn't
Speaker 2: notice it because the Earth isn't necessarily flat anyways, because
Speaker 2: obviously there's hills and curve and here and there, so
Speaker 2: you're not going to really notice the eight inches per
Speaker 2: square mile. But I'm like, at some point though, like
Speaker 2: I've been up to the dunes in northern Indiana and
Speaker 2: from Lake Michigan, you can look across the lake and
Speaker 2: you can see Chicago. Well, I don't know the exact mileage,
Speaker 2: but it's more than three miles, and you can still
Speaker 2: see the city of Chicago. So if you calculate the distance,
Speaker 2: most of that should not be visible.
Speaker 1: If you are standing in Saint Joseph, Michigan, and you
Speaker 1: look across Lake Michigan at Chicago, it's about sixty miles
Speaker 1: according to the Pythagraeam theorem. And you talked about eight
Speaker 1: inches per mile. For one mile, it's eight inches, but
Speaker 1: then it exponentially goes up. For example, it's eight inches
Speaker 1: of curvature for the first mile. At ten miles, it's
Speaker 1: sixty six feet. At twenty miles it's two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty six feet, So it's squared. If you're on the
Speaker 1: shoreline of Saint Joseph and you're looking at Chicago, the
Speaker 1: Williams Tower, based on their curvature formula, should be under
Speaker 1: the curve. You should not even be able to see it.
Speaker 1: And there was a famous video on WGN where the
Speaker 1: weather man said, the reason you could see the Williams
Speaker 1: Tower is because of the horizon, because of as a
Speaker 1: it's a it's an illusion.
Speaker 2: The light, right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So for example, about ten miles offshore should be
Speaker 1: sixty six point six feet below the horizon, and it's not.
Speaker 1: If you take out a pair of binoculars and I've
Speaker 1: done that, you could pull it in. If you take
Speaker 1: out a telescope, you can pull it even further. So
Speaker 1: what we believe to be the Earth's curvature is actually
Speaker 1: the vanishing point of perspective. From our point of view.
Speaker 1: The flat horizon changes in relation to our vantage point,
Speaker 1: whether it's view from the ground or thirty five thousand feet.
Speaker 1: You know, there's pilots who said they're flying in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and they can see five hundred miles away. And
Speaker 1: then I use the flight route, and again this is
Speaker 1: in the book. If you fly from Frankfurt, Germany to
Speaker 1: San Jose, California, Frankfurt's a fifty degrees latitude, but for
Speaker 1: some reason, you got to fly over Greenland to get
Speaker 1: the San Jose, which makes no sense at all, But
Speaker 1: it makes perfect sense if you're looking at a flat
Speaker 1: earth map. That's why all the flight routes look crazy.
Speaker 2: I've always thought it was strange how they go about it,
Speaker 2: but I guess that's all by design. Well, Dylan, it
Speaker 2: has been a pleasure talking with you. We can wrap
Speaker 2: this one up so for anyone listening, make sure to
Speaker 2: check out Lucifer's Flat Earth available at Amazon. But I
Speaker 2: really enjoyed talking with you.
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed the conversation. I wish you the best
Speaker 1: with your show man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it. For anyone listening, if they would like
Speaker 2: to reach out to you, is there anywhere you would
Speaker 2: like for them to contact you at.
Speaker 1: They can email me OCD seven seven seven at gmail
Speaker 1: dot com. Awesome.
Speaker 2: Alrighty well, you have a great night.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Brandon, you too.
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