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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome back to Challenge Podcast.

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Speaker 2: All about the Challenge, this one specifically about season forties finale.

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Speaker 3: Fucking yeah, Christ.

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Speaker 4: There we go, Carlin. I'm so glad I'm not alone

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tonight and drinking.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows who everybody is. I'm not introducing nobody becomes

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Challenge pod dot Com john Facebook group because hey, Carlin,

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you got notes right. I did tell us what happened

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in the last two episodes.

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Speaker 5: Jesus a bunch of swimming, and then Jordan and Jenny

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and Rachel won.

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Speaker 3: What we said, We're gonna burn.

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Speaker 4: You're just like I just did it.

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Speaker 5: I got no reaction from the two of them. It

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was just sack. What the fuck?

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Speaker 4: No I got. I was just too like, I'm just

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lots of swimming.

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Speaker 5: And then Jordan, Rachel and Jenny one.

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Speaker 4: Oh okay, Carl, Carl, little four play. You gotta warm

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me up. Carl, let's go come on.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry you do that ship every single fucking episode.

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What are you talking about? You need a little four play?

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Speaker 4: What Carlyn?

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Speaker 3: Look at Carlin on the public link you won the public.

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Speaker 4: Look at this all right?

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Speaker 6: I don't want it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I know who wanted to we're going to go

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through and actually do this episode like normal people.

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Speaker 3: I thought I actually wanted Kim wanted four.

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Speaker 5: Play, So we're gonna get four play.

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Speaker 4: Let's do it, you know, like a little a little

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bit of hey, how was your week type of ship

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not just doesn't.

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Speaker 3: Work yourself off on your own time. Let's go.

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Speaker 4: I did it before the show. I'm gonna do it

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a little bit later during the show. Just give you

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a minute in my refractory in my refractory period, Carlin,

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how dare you don't judge? Goodness?

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 6: We got him worked up with all that stuff porn

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I did.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you want to hear all about porn, go

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listen to our pre show and possibly our after SHOWMM.

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All right, so we are in the finale. I don't

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remember what the finale episodes are called. We get the

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prize breakdown and the money breakdown, which is first gets

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four hundred k, second gets seventy five k, third gets

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twenty five k, and fourth is competing in the entire finale,

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which I don't know that we've seen that before, and

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they get nothing. Normally, Fourth gets purged out pretty quickly.

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I was kind of saying, we've seen.

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Speaker 6: It in older seasons. Famous I remember was it Rivals

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when Mandy and Jen were on the team. They got

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fourth place and got no money.

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Speaker 5: Were they fourth or were they third? I thought they

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were third, And they just didn't make it to the

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end because didn't they quit during that challenge where they

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had to like move body bags or no they couldn't

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they I don't know whatever.

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Speaker 4: I'm so glad you remember this, Carling, because I feel

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so fucking weird sometimes remembering these weird fucking shit like that.

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But yes, they timed out of that final. They did

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not finish that final because they timed out on the

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weird thing where they had to remake a campsite or

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something fucking sea.

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Speaker 5: That's right, they had a bunch. They had a really

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hard time doing the moving the body bags because they

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were super heavy. And then the next one they had

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to go and recreate the campsite exactly and they couldn't

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get the tent up and they couldn't remember where everything was.

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I forgot about that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and there was cows in the road or something

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that the cows.

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Speaker 2: Remember one season where angels like, I'm not doing the

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shit and just went to sleep in the tent PJ

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just qualified it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, we've had some interesting ones.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, so this, uh, this final, I like, I

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really wanted to love it because there were seven different checkpoints, which, like,

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that's a lot of gameplay. There's seven different checkpoints. They

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had to swim to and from a boat for every

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single one of them, which nightmare And by the way, yeah,

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but it's no, it's honestly, it's no real difference from

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that or running.

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Speaker 4: No, it is. I listen. I got in a very

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public argument about this on the MTV Challenge sub reddit.

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It is far more interesting. It is far more Some

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guy said it was the same to watch somebody swim

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versus run, and I said, absolutely not. It is way

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more interesting to watch people run because you can at

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least see their whole fucking bodies, like at minimum, you

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can see you can see them.

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Speaker 5: See their whole body, and you can hear them talking

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and like thank you.

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Speaker 4: When they're swimming, it's like it's like you get you

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get the top of two thirds of their head and

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like their arms sometimes and like a long shot with

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an arrow pointing to where they are. It's like, I

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don't give a fuck about any of that, Like show

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me them sweating and like pausing to throw up and

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then they keep running and stuff. Like the swimming this

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is boring, it's not fun watch swimming.

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Speaker 3: Swimming did not bother me.

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Speaker 6: Jump in real quick and say I double checked. And

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even though they did quit third place, did not get

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any catch that season, whether they finished or not.

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Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, I mean I guess I to Wolfe's point,

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I didn't really mind the swimming versus running type of thing.

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It was still just like long distance stuff.

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Speaker 2: I do agree with Tim he can't perve on the

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girls running.

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Speaker 4: Because yeah, yeah, and.

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Speaker 6: I also hated all the swimming. I like a final

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that's a mix of both. You know, start with a

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swim like we've seen in the past, but then run,

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you know, on blackground, then go up a mountain, Like, yeah,

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I want to see, you know, different activities for people

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of different skill sets. Who's the best swimmer.

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Speaker 5: In swimming, swimming, swimming, swimming, swimming, it's finally a healthy

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mix of all of them.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this final, thousand percent came down to who's the

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best swimmer, Like that's kind of all. That's all it was,

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and you know it's whatever for what, But that's not yeah,

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the challenge should be like the most well rounded and

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this doesn't know it seems like I missed the market.

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Speaker 5: Yep, I agree with that. We also, they're standing on

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the boat after they find out what the prize money

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is going to be. They also find out that they're

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going to be starting and finishing every checkpoint on the

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boat and TJ drops the bomb about the Karma vote,

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and Johnny immediately says that he should just jump off

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the boat right now. Yes, he knows that his is

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going to be shit.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 4: So no, we've discussed the karma vote on an off

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all season. But where where do you, guys land with

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the karma vote are we? Are we good with it

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or do you need to judge it by how it's

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based and how it's judged by the end, like what's where.

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Speaker 5: Were I really liked it. I don't think it should

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be weighted as much as it was.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't like it just for the fact that

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I think if you're going to do something like that

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or Jerry vote, that the player should be told ahead

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of time because I don't like it.

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Speaker 6: You know, at the very end, they're like, oh, here's

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a facet to the game that impacts how you win

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that we kept secret from you all season.

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Speaker 5: No, because they can then they can game the vote.

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Speaker 4: But that's the point of it, part of the game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, but the personal relationships of how you

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treat people is also.

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Speaker 3: Part of the game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. I loved that it was a secret that no

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one found out about it until after they left, so

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people like Johnny couldn't go up and try to save

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face with people by finding out that there's a karma

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vote and oh well, I have to go play nice

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with this person. Even though I hate it, I.

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Speaker 4: Totally see what you're saying. I liked it.

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Speaker 5: I just didn't like how much it was waited.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, both Wolfe and Karl, and I totally see your point.

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It's better to be hidden, It's like, because then it's

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the more sort of like true representation of how you're

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playing the game.

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Speaker 5: Like I watched Certain.

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Speaker 2: That being said, I feel like the scoring on it

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was fucking weird and I didn't like that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the scoring on it was, And I do feel

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like when you watch a game, Sorry, Zack, I'm gonna

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keep talking, when you watch a game like Survivor that

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is take get into it right, you have to like,

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you eventually have to make your plate to the jury

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and you have to win over these people that voted out,

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and that's part of the game, and knowing that as

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you're playing it makes the game more interesting. Surprising it

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at the end is sort of like a oh well, fuck,

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I would have done different things had I known that,

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And that's shitty. You shouldn't wait until the game is

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basically done before you tell them a very major part

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of the rules.

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Speaker 5: But that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: I just think it makes it more luck and shitty

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that way.

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Speaker 6: And I also, I'll say, it's not like you know,

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the votes really came down to karmen how you treated people.

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For example, Leroy gave bananas a one does anyone here

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thinks bananasad Leroy Poorley?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was just because yeah, Lero wanted to see

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another winner. Yeah, and so yes, it wasn't It wasn't

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a real karma point. It was sort of a who

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do I want?

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Speaker 5: I mean, that's something honestly, I think that would have happened,

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whether whether they knew about it or not. Like it's

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so I totally get your point. I do think that

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it would be really fun to watch this where they

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are also playing strategically for the Karma vote, because if

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if this show ever comes back and if they bring

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the Karma boat back, then that's what it's going to

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be going forward, because they're never going to be able

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to surprise it on us again. But I did really

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like the element of they're not playing to try to

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get those extra points because they don't know they're there.

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Because yeah, I mean to you saying like, oh, I

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would have played things differently if I had known this

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was there, But yeah, that's the point. That's why they

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didn't tell them, because people like fucking Johnny would go

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and try to game the system to get that point,

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even though he's a fucking asshole. So I just I

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liked it for this season. It's never gonna happen this

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way again. They're never gonna be able to play it

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the same way again. But I liked it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I hated it.

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Speaker 6: Hated it, thanks, And I think it's just that I

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watched a lot of like Survivor and Bick Brother, where

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you know the point of the game is like get

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to the end, be liked by a journey. Where's the

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challenge has always been it doesn't care who you burn

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along the way, at the end of the day, who's

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the best athlete, who's gonna win the competition?

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Speaker 4: That's exactly right. Yeah, getting to the final is the

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hard part. Once you're at the final, it's sort of

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as like best man wins, like your final, like the

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gun goes off, and whoever finished his first wins, And

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this takes away from that.

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Speaker 5: True, it's you know, in those games, you have to

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you have to do that sort of thing, and this

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one has just been in years previous it's just who's

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the best physical competitor, But you do still have to

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you have to play strategically as well. You still have

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to have that that gameplay within the house. And like,

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I don't know who said it earlier, it might have

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been David said it. For example, Derrek made it to

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the end and much of it was for being friendly

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and easy to get along with, so like he and

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the karma points for the boys didn't matter at all

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because they all they played to the best of their

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ability and they did a really good job with their

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Like the guys who won did a good job with

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their strategic play. So I don't know, I kind of

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feel like it's a little I kind of feel like,

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you guys are somewhat Zach. I kind of feel like

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you're talking at it both sides of your mouth when

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you say that you don't like the karma points because

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they are and then you also like to have strategic

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Speaker 6: Because I'm survivor or big brother, you know, like he said,

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you can kiss their ass because you know, at the

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end of the day, I need these people to win.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're all to have and that can be a

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really interesting part of the show is watching people even

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saying like a fuck, I gotta kiss this guy's ass, yes,

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so that I can get a boat later. You know,

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Speaker 5: Going forward, if we have this going forward, I think

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it'd be a lot of fun to watch, like watching

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Johnny Banas try to kiss someone's ass so he can

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keep those points.

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Speaker 4: But they could have done it off season, Carlin, if

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they would have just told him earlier, you know, we

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could have we could have already seen it.

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Speaker 5: Being sprung on him. I thought that was great.

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Speaker 6: I also think a Lovicul be results oriented because like,

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could you imagine, like I think there'd be a huge

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outcry if Jordan dominated this final. But then Derek want

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this the show because nice part totally.

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Speaker 4: I was, yes, I was pissed at that hypothetical last

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week where that was still maybe gonna happen. Yeah, yeah,

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because Jordan Jordan tweeted out something or put it on

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his Instagram and it with something with the hashtag like

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fuck the Karma vote or something, which led some people

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to think like, oh, Jordan dominated this and then lost it,

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which would have been fucking bullshit. I'm glad that's not

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how it we saw.

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Speaker 6: It was close. I mean, it was very much in

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the realistic possibility Derek could have won. He just done slightly.

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Speaker 4: Better after after Jordan placed first and what six out

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of seven checkpoints, like a fuck, that should not be.

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That should not be how this game is played, Like

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that's I disagree with that.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, you're right, yeah, six out of seven because

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the only one that he didn't get was the one

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where they were cannon coins, right.

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Speaker 4: And he got second I think on that one. I mean,

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it's just there's no world in which Jordan should have

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lost this or it should have been even close. And

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the fact that it was cool.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan absolutely dominated this finale. Yeah, so really quickly,

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let's run through the games of the finale. Check point

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one they have to is san Blatt. I don't know

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why I named it. I pulled in the names. Check

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Point one, Derek starts with a three minute penalty because

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he came in last in the last elimination or last challenge. Yeah,

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I after further review, I agree with you. It was

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fucking dumb that he had any kind of a penalty.

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Speaker 4: It became even more dumb watching him sit there when

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everybody else is gone, like why is this one motherfucker

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sitting there? Like? What make? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: So they had to swim from the boat to the beach,

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run back and forth on the beach five times to

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retrieve puzzle pieces, put a three D puzzle together, and

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then swim back to the boat. Uh Rachel and Kyland

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both fucking failed miserably.

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Speaker 4: Kyland sucks at puzzles. Kylon sucks at puzzles. Guys, let's

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get on this. Let's get on this train.

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Speaker 5: Nobody Seemsie's good at math. He sucks the puzzles.

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Speaker 4: Kylin sucks at puzzles. Nobody else seems to be realizing

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this yet is a terrible puzzle person.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, if it's math related, he will kill it. If

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it's not, math related. He's yeah, not good at all.

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Speaker 4: I hope next season more people have figured this out.

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This guy sucks a puzzles.

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Speaker 5: He also sucks at swimming. Jordan and Derek were first

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back for the were first and second for the guys.

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Michelle and Jenny were first and second for the girls.

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Checkpoint two we have they swim to another boat. They

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have to do a matching shapes puzzle where the key

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is on the bottom of that other boat. Once they

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do all the match in shapes, they have to swim

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back to the original boat. Yet again, Jordan fucking dominates

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in the swim.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jordan pretty much. Yeah, Jordan just dominates this whole thing, right,

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He's except for the one. He'd finished every single thing

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first and that's just how it went.

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Speaker 5: Yep. Third one is one thousand steps. They have to

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swim to a beach, follow a bunch of clues, swim

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to a booie and look at an image in the trees,

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which is a skull, and then recreate that image on

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a puzzle board, and then swim back to the ship.

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And if they get the puzzle board wrong, then they

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have to do the whole swim back out to the

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booy and come back type of thing.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 5: The only person who got that wrong with Tory.

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Speaker 4: This was the part where I started feeling bad for Tory,

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who has done well all season and fucked this final

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up in a severe way. And I think this is

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this is.

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Speaker 5: The way Rachel fucked this final up. I was super

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surprised with how bad Rachel was doing.

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Speaker 4: I think this is the leg though, where at dawn

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on Tory like I'm gonna lose, like like I'm way

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fucking behind, And when she got back to the ship,

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she just looked so defeated and deflated. And what a

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weird season for her to dominate all season, destroy everybody,

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and then the final like just choked.

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Speaker 5: Just yeah, Rachel and Tory, they I mean they were

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third and fourth almost every checkpoint. It was surprising.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I say the same also for Kyland.

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he won a good portion of the Men's Daily Challenging

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this season, and then he gets swimming. He yeah, he

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was just screwed.

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Speaker 5: He was dead last in every single elimination except for

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every single checkpoint except for the one where they had

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to count where he was third and the the like

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second to last one where they had to do the math.

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He was also third, but that was just more because

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he was the last person to arrive to the island

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and Johnny failed at math.

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Speaker 6: I do think mostly running and says swimming. I think

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he's up there competing for a second. I don't think

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he'd be stortan.

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Speaker 4: But Zach I was about to say the same thing.

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I think Kylan is going to win this show if

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we have a few more seasons of this sorry, if

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we have a few more seasons of this show. I

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think Kylin is gonna win. I really do, because I

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think he's not a great swimmer, but who cares because

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normally swimmings not that big of a deal here, And

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if he could get a good partner who's okay with puzzles,

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I think he'll be all right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think is going to win this season anyway,

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if we.

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Speaker 6: Ran this final again, but it was just bet on

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head Kylin and Leroy, who.

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Speaker 4: Wins Kylan Kylan versus Leroy.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, with all the swimming, yeah, Kylin wentz for sure.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but Lee, I mean with all the swimming, like

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Kylind is not good at swimming, but he's marginally better

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than Leroy, and Leroy is significantly worse at puzzles. Is

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not good at puzzles. But Leroy is really not good

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at puzzles.

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Speaker 4: They have the same they have the same weaknesses, but

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I think Kylin is better at both. Yeah, they're both

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weak at swimming and puzzles, but but Leroy is weaker

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at both. I think.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I guess I just figured in my mind because

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Learry has been in this longer, he's been more time

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swimming north, I thought he'd have a slight edge in

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the swimming.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but Leroy also has two kids at home and

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we have.

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Speaker 4: No I know, but he's going. He's gone.

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Speaker 5: Just bye Wolfy.

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Speaker 4: He's sick this season.

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Speaker 5: Take it off his headphones and wandered away, all right. Uh.

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Check point four is the Overnight Challenge. This was so

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fucking stupid. I know it was just there to like

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drag them down. But they were given a big bag

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of coins that they had to count for thirty minutes,

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and then they had to go up to the to

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the deck and sing a song for thirty minutes, and

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then they had to go back down and continue to

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count the coins in the bag for thirty minutes and

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so on and so forth, go back up and sing count.

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Speaker 4: But I feel like this was This is important for

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two reasons. Number One, Jenny fucking gave up. So number one,

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we know Jenny is weak mentally, She's fucking weak as shit. Mentally.

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She did okay counting them, she did all right, But

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I feel like that was luck. She impressed me luck.

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So that's number one. Good job Jenny for the lucky

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fucking thing. But you're a puss for doing what you did.

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Speaker 5: Super annoying in this one.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 4: And also, Tory, what the fuck is wrong with you? You

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took a million fucking years and you were off by

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a thousand You were off by one thousand points? What Carlin?

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Every single person this was off by like eighty coins,

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seventy six coins. She's off by a thousand coins after

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taking like two hours longer than everybody else. I know

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what is wrong with Tory.

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Speaker 5: I don't know that girl. It feels like she just

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completely lost where she was at or started with an

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extra number. I don't know. I don't know. And yeah,

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I do think that Jenny completely guessed her number. I

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think that she probably got about halfway through it. And

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then just had fuck it and started throwing things in.

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And honestly, the smart thing to do, like it could

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have been like if they had been allowed I don't

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know how many coins they were allowed to take out

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of the bag at the same time, but a way

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to make this go real fast would be to try

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and like take out potentially what you think might be

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half the coins and set them on the floor next

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to you and see if you can get it so

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that the piles look about the same and count that

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half and then just chuck the rest of them in

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as fast as you can and double that half.

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Speaker 4: Yep. And I think Jenny must have done something like that.

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I think she didn't. I don't think she was a

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pure guest. She had some system that she guessed and

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it was like, yeah, and really, that's not a bad strategy.

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She got more, you know, i'll call it rest than

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the most than rest of them. And you know, if

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it was anybody other than Jenny, I would say this

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was smart. But she did it with such sort of

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a bad, shitty attitude.

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Speaker 5: She was Honestly, Jenny was super annoying this entire fucking

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finale season entire, this entire season two. But just she

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could not stop talking. Lord did she not stop talking?

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And you can't understand half the ship that's coming out

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of her mouth either.

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Speaker 4: She's a very annoying person. I would really struggle to

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like talk to her. I think, frankly, are you going.

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Speaker 6: To say, Zach Oh, I was gonna say, with that

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plan of like dividing, kind of divide in half. I

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know last week Kylon was on Banana's podcast and they

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kind of talked about that, and they said the issue

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with that is, you know, the coins were all different

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sizes and shapes, so it's hard to like, you know,

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evenly divide because well, yeah, they weren't all unison. No.

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Speaker 5: I totally get that. I think I think Johnny may

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have said that. Somebody said it on the show too,

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that they were all different shapes and sizes. But like

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it's one of those that if you just kind of

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get close to the same size, then I think you

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could get pretty close to the answer. Yeah, I don't

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think that you'd be off by a thousand.

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Speaker 4: It was weird to me too, like, yeah, because I

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think all of them had around six thousand coins, and

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all of them were less than one hundred off except.

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Speaker 5: For yees, so I actually have the numbers. So Jenny

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was sixty fifty two, Derek was at sixty eighty eight,

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Bananas was at sixty three hundred, so he was a

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solid two hundred higher than those other two. Kyland was

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at fifty six ninety five. I think they all must

478
00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:40,039
have had slightly different numbers of coins.

479
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,839
Speaker 4: In that same range, didn't wasn't there a plus of

480
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,839
mind Jordan was it?

481
00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 5: Jordan? Was it fifty seven to seventy eight? Rachel six

482
00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:50,839
and twenty three? And Tory was at sixty nine sixty four?

483
00:21:51,279 --> 00:21:53,119
Speaker 4: But wasn't there a screen one time where it showed

484
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,720
everybody like Kyland was off so much, Jordan was off

485
00:21:56,759 --> 00:21:58,640
so much, and like, I don't know, I forget what

486
00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,599
that the numbers work.

487
00:22:00,039 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 5: Wasn't paying attention to that point in time, Honestly, I

488
00:22:02,079 --> 00:22:05,559
just fast forward through so much of this episode was.

489
00:22:05,559 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 4: What I remember, and like, don't quote me on this,

490
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,400
but from what I remember, everybody was off like less

491
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,319
than one hundred ish or two hundred ish, and Toy

492
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,400
was off like a thousand, and it was like, thinks

493
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:14,480
the funck happened?

494
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,160
Speaker 5: I don't know it was. I was really surprised that

495
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,799
she got so off because I figured, like, okay, she's

496
00:22:19,799 --> 00:22:22,200
staying up later, she must absolutely be like on the

497
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:23,119
money with this.

498
00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 4: Well, I want you to eat that right into the mic.

499
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 5: And then to be as off as she was any of.

500
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 4: The first crunch though. The first crunch, well, he's got chips.

501
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,559
Speaker 3: Everybody's got My microphone was off.

502
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:38,079
Speaker 4: No, let's hear it, let's hear it. Let's here a crunch.

503
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:41,559
There we go.

504
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:42,680
Speaker 5: That was a pretty good crunch.

505
00:22:42,799 --> 00:22:44,079
Speaker 4: That's it, that's it.

506
00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,839
Speaker 5: Yeah, Then we're onto Yeah, because there is a round

507
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,839
that Tory is the only one who's still up, so

508
00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:54,079
she goes upstairs and has to sing all by herself. Also,

509
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:58,920
there's I did it was great shot In Freud, Johnny

510
00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:03,000
had ten coins in his hands and sat there and

511
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,119
the buzzer rang for them to have to go upstairs

512
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,519
to sing. Yeah, and he goes, oh, can't I just

513
00:23:07,759 --> 00:23:10,160
I just have It's just ten coins. They told him, no,

514
00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:12,319
but I can tell you the number right now. It's

515
00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,000
just Nope, you gotta go upstairs and sing. He looked

516
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,640
so mad. God, I loved that. It was great.

517
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,799
Speaker 4: Yep, Zach no, no shade, but your boy looks like

518
00:23:22,799 --> 00:23:30,920
a fucking pussy in that scene.

519
00:23:28,519 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 6: Because I don't know if you have, like I don't

520
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,680
know if they had to tell the production like their

521
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,000
final number, but if they did, then that makes sense

522
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:36,640
me and be like, hey, I'm ready to tell you

523
00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:38,200
my number, Like can I just tell you it?

524
00:23:38,279 --> 00:23:42,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, they did have to tell the number, but you

525
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,519
had to have all all of your coins in the

526
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:49,079
box before you could say the number. Yeah, And because

527
00:23:49,079 --> 00:23:53,039
he didn't do that before the buzzer, it's just.

528
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,640
Speaker 3: That can't be true. If Jenny just made up a number,

529
00:23:58,799 --> 00:24:00,400
she still had like half her back left.

530
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 5: Well, she shoved it all in, she shoved everything in

531
00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:06,000
there and then gave them a number. Yeah.

532
00:24:06,079 --> 00:24:07,839
Speaker 4: Yeah. And Bananas was standing there with a with a

533
00:24:07,839 --> 00:24:09,559
couple in his hand, and he kept shoving him in

534
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:11,640
when that ref was like stop, stop, stop, and Bananos

535
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:14,200
kept shoving him in for a minute. So sorry, Zach,

536
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:15,319
your boy looks like sort of a.

537
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,279
Speaker 5: Second there that they were going to decue him on

538
00:24:19,519 --> 00:24:21,519
like I thought that they were, that he was doing

539
00:24:21,599 --> 00:24:23,400
it past the buzzer and that they were going to

540
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,599
dque him from that one.

541
00:24:25,079 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 4: Listen, he was doing it past the but he absolutely was,

542
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,440
and they should have de qued him frankly or penalized

543
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,640
him for something because he was not following the rules.

544
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 5: No, they thought that's why they were showing him.

545
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, and like you know, this is a stupid thing.

546
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:40,559
And Zach, I understand, Like for bananas, it sucks he

547
00:24:40,599 --> 00:24:42,519
has to stay but extra thirty minutes because he missed

548
00:24:42,519 --> 00:24:44,559
it by ten seconds. But it's sort of like that's

549
00:24:44,599 --> 00:24:46,599
what it is, Like that's the game. He fucked it up,

550
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,799
he didn't do it right. He deserves this gout fucking

551
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:52,759
bitching about it and sing the thing and then you

552
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:53,319
go to sleep.

553
00:24:54,079 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 6: I don't blame Hi, because you know if I was

554
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,960
there and I would also be bitching, Oh.

555
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,039
Speaker 5: Same, I would have I probably would have done the

556
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,519
exact same thing. I would have been sucking, miserable and

557
00:25:02,559 --> 00:25:04,759
wanting to go to bed, and like I have ten,

558
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,279
like ten, I just please.

559
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:12,000
Speaker 4: But we can judge other people. Great, we weren't there.

560
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,079
We weren't there, so we'll judge these people on completely

561
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:18,599
unrealistic standards. And no problem with that, all right.

562
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,319
Speaker 5: Check Point five was submerging terror. This was they had

563
00:25:21,319 --> 00:25:23,240
to swim to a raft for directions and then they

564
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:24,920
get to the raft and they have to retrieve a pad.

565
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,640
They then have to swim to a cave, and then

566
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,039
they have to retrieve a paddle and they have to

567
00:25:28,039 --> 00:25:29,960
swim back to the raft with the paddle, and then

568
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:31,799
they have to drive under the raft try and get

569
00:25:31,839 --> 00:25:33,720
a key that's locked in a box that's wrapped in rope,

570
00:25:33,759 --> 00:25:36,440
and they have to unwrap the rope and get the key,

571
00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:39,480
and then unlock the canoe and then paddle back to

572
00:25:39,519 --> 00:25:39,839
the boat.

573
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:44,839
Speaker 4: Big thinks, I only have one thing to say about this.

574
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,599
I love Jordan, and I love Jordan especially because he

575
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,440
never talks about his one hand. He never like fucking

576
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,000
makes it a thing. This was the one time I

577
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,680
can ever remember this guy saying anything about his one hand.

578
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,519
He said something like, hey, I have to row, and

579
00:25:57,559 --> 00:25:59,799
it's harder for me. I've only kind of got one hand,

580
00:25:59,839 --> 00:26:00,720
so it's really hard.

581
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:02,799
Speaker 5: He has only ever brought it up. He's brought it

582
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,079
up a few times over the years, and it has

583
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,599
only ever been brought up in situations like this, where

584
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:12,319
he's still fucking beast moting it out, kicking the ship

585
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,640
out of everybody. Yea, but he has to, like, he

586
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,079
has to compensate with how he's doing things like he

587
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:23,200
he makes a point of saying, like, you know, I

588
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,920
can't do it the same way that everybody else does. Like, yeah, Like,

589
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,400
there have been a few a few different episodes in

590
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,559
various different seasons where he's brought it up, some of

591
00:26:32,599 --> 00:26:35,680
them where he's talked about how, you know, he's been disadvantced,

592
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,960
he was looked at as the handicapped kid is it

593
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,599
when he was younger, and how he's always tried to

594
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:44,960
you know, not play into that all sort of thing,

595
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:48,160
and like he's done, he's been a really good he's

596
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,400
done a really good job of being an advocate for

597
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:57,480
the differently abled community. But like, I think the only

598
00:26:57,519 --> 00:27:02,640
time that it's really truly negatively impacted him was the

599
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,519
elimination where he had to climb the wall where he

600
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:10,960
did punch holes in the wall with Johnny. Yeah, well

601
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,160
he flipped, he flipped all the all the cards and

602
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,680
then had to climb the wall. That's the only time

603
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,240
that I think it's truly negatively affected him.

604
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,640
Speaker 4: There's another one I remember where we had to catch

605
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,880
a post the like put through a wall or something.

606
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,759
I don't remember all that things, But there was another

607
00:27:25,799 --> 00:27:28,440
one where was very clearly like two hands is much

608
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,000
better than one, and it's just it. I don't know.

609
00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:33,119
It's just interesting that we've never, or at least I've

610
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,440
never paid attention to him making an excuse like I

611
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,519
would have done better if I had two hands on this.

612
00:27:37,519 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 5: Like he's never made an excuse about it.

613
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, this seemed like close to it to me. Maybe

614
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,400
I'm reading into it, but it's it was just seemed

615
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:47,400
sort of weird. I was like, Oh, now Jordan's gonna

616
00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,240
lose because he's talking about his hand and now it's harder,

617
00:27:49,279 --> 00:27:51,079
and then he's still won, and it's like, what happened?

618
00:27:51,559 --> 00:27:53,079
Speaker 5: I don't I don't know. I don't see this as

619
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,240
him making an excuse. I see him. I see this

620
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:57,720
as something like where all of us would look at

621
00:27:57,759 --> 00:28:01,000
this and be like, dude, I mean half the people

622
00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,799
that come onto the challenge don't know how to paddle

623
00:28:02,839 --> 00:28:05,920
for ship. They end up spending their boat and circles.

624
00:28:06,759 --> 00:28:08,880
So I have I in my head, it was more

625
00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,079
of a he's bringing this up because he knows that

626
00:28:11,079 --> 00:28:14,279
this is something that other people are going to talk about,

627
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:19,000
and like him making a point to say like, yeah,

628
00:28:19,079 --> 00:28:21,240
this is more difficult for me than it is for

629
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,799
most people because I don't have a hand on one

630
00:28:24,839 --> 00:28:29,799
side of my body, right, So it just the few

631
00:28:29,839 --> 00:28:32,000
times that he has brought it up and talked about it,

632
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,680
it has always It's never been in a this is

633
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,960
an excuse, this is why I lost type of way.

634
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:40,480
It has always been a Yeah. I mean I I

635
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,440
am differently able to I don't have ten fingers like

636
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:45,440
all the rest of you do.

637
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: Even more had I had both hands. Yeah, I mean.

638
00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:55,559
Speaker 5: Shit, look at the one where the one where he

639
00:28:55,559 --> 00:29:01,240
played tugle war with fucking Josh Josh and game yeah

640
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:02,000
killed him.

641
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's I love Jordan because he never like he

642
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,319
never does that. He never makes excuses and thinks like, oh,

643
00:29:07,359 --> 00:29:09,160
this isn't fair. They're making me do tugle war with

644
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:11,759
one hand. He thinks, oh, how do I fucking beat

645
00:29:11,799 --> 00:29:13,759
this guy? I only have one hand? How do I

646
00:29:13,799 --> 00:29:16,559
make this work? And then he like fucking figures it out.

647
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,640
I don't know, I'm just I'm always very impressed in Jordan.

648
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:20,759
Speaker 5: Yeah. The pole one, I think the pole one you

649
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:22,960
were thinking of case is that he lost to Fessian

650
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:23,640
pole wrestle.

651
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 4: No, it was it wasn't elimination. It was a challenge

652
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,480
that they were like they had to like pass.

653
00:29:29,319 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 5: Poles through a wall. Yes, and they they were. They

654
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,279
were the two by fours. They had to stick the

655
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,720
two by four through to the bottom of the wall. Yeah,

656
00:29:38,799 --> 00:29:40,079
I thought you were talking about in an elimination.

657
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:42,599
Speaker 4: You had to pass the two by four or catch

658
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,440
it or something. And it was like he couldn't catch

659
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,160
it with both hands. But there was something that was

660
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:46,559
really hard.

661
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,559
Speaker 5: They they had to stick the pole, stick the two

662
00:29:49,599 --> 00:29:51,880
by four through the wall. And there were one or

663
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,039
two people standing on the There were two two by fours.

664
00:29:55,319 --> 00:29:57,640
You're standing on one and you're passing the other one

665
00:29:57,680 --> 00:29:59,519
through the wall, and when it comes through the wall

666
00:29:59,519 --> 00:30:01,519
on the other s, the other person has to grab

667
00:30:01,559 --> 00:30:04,240
it and move it to the next hole. And most

668
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:05,839
of the time it's your moving the one that you

669
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:09,680
were just standing on either over you or behind your

670
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,519
back and then putting it through the hole on the

671
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:14,880
other side of you. So you guys can progress along

672
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,279
this wall. And then the other person on the other

673
00:30:17,359 --> 00:30:18,839
side of the wall has to do the same with

674
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,839
that next one. And he tried to pass it behind

675
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:23,680
his He tried to pass one of them behind his

676
00:30:23,799 --> 00:30:27,519
back and dropped it because he only has a thumb

677
00:30:27,759 --> 00:30:31,400
and like a not even half of a hand on

678
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,039
one side, so he tried to pass it behind his

679
00:30:34,079 --> 00:30:34,920
back and dropped it.

680
00:30:35,319 --> 00:30:37,279
Speaker 4: Yeah that was something like that. Yeah, because he had

681
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:39,319
like hold onto a wall while also holding on to

682
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,960
this thing, but he couldn't do both because he's only

683
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,640
got one hand. Yeah, it was something like that. That

684
00:30:43,759 --> 00:30:47,359
was like you were, it is significant disadvantage and yet

685
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,400
like not talking about that. I don't know. I just

686
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,000
thought that was really strange.

687
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 5: Anyway, Yeah, it's nuts. Well, and then to also think

688
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,720
like he's now trying to pursue a pretty legitimate career

689
00:30:57,759 --> 00:31:02,079
as a race car driver with one hand, Like, dude,

690
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,720
this this kid can do. Like there's nothing this kid

691
00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,359
can't do. It's it is super impressive. Like he may

692
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,359
be an asshole, but it's really impressive to watch the

693
00:31:11,359 --> 00:31:12,160
ship that he can do.

694
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:18,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, rating are we all gonna go on a challenge

695
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,279
trip to as Card to watch him?

696
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're gonna start nascard right here on this right here,

697
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:25,240
on this right.

698
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 5: Well, today they turned left and they turned left, and

699
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,079
then they turned left again.

700
00:31:32,519 --> 00:31:33,440
Speaker 4: And they kept going.

701
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,880
Speaker 5: Oh and then they turned left again. Oh, but somebody

702
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:39,440
turned right and it just caused all kinds.

703
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:40,559
Speaker 4: Of Charets.

704
00:31:41,559 --> 00:31:47,559
Speaker 5: Podcast done. We just put that on a loop, all right,

705
00:31:47,799 --> 00:31:52,160
So if he left again he did, we have checkpoint

706
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,240
six with it, which is mathematical leisure. They swim to

707
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,400
a sandbar, do a speed math contest. If you get

708
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,759
it right, you get to swim back to the boat.

709
00:31:59,759 --> 00:32:02,119
If you get it wrong, then you have to challenge

710
00:32:02,119 --> 00:32:06,160
the next person. Last person standing on the island has

711
00:32:06,279 --> 00:32:09,519
to wait there until the person who beat them makes

712
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,039
it all the way back to the boat and then

713
00:32:11,079 --> 00:32:11,839
they can come back.

714
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,559
Speaker 4: So for this one, Michelle is shockingly bad at math.

715
00:32:15,559 --> 00:32:17,759
I didn't know she was this bad at math. My gosh,

716
00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:18,400
this poor life.

717
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 5: And these questions weren't hard questions either, No, it was

718
00:32:22,279 --> 00:32:25,440
it was like Devin asking Josh, what's eight times nine?

719
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:27,279
Speaker 4: All right? So what do you guys think about the

720
00:32:27,599 --> 00:32:31,000
scene where it's Michelle she's clearly trying to pass and

721
00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:32,920
Derek says like, I got you, like, I'll let you,

722
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:36,000
I'll let you win one. But then Michelle can't fucking

723
00:32:36,079 --> 00:32:36,440
do it.

724
00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:39,519
Speaker 5: And Derek still thinks you saw you saw his face.

725
00:32:39,359 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 4: Right, he like wanted her to get it.

726
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,119
Speaker 5: Yes, he literally you could see it on his face.

727
00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,680
He got the answer, and then he paused for a

728
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,559
second yep, and then paused for another second yep, and

729
00:32:50,599 --> 00:32:52,880
then was like, I have given you like two or

730
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,880
three seconds. You should have this by now. I'm not

731
00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:55,759
waiting any longer.

732
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: Yep. Totally on his side, totally to me, two thousand percent.

733
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,279
And when he came in the he said something in

734
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:04,200
his confessional and he's like, hey, I wanted to give

735
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,839
her a shot, but I have to do this for

736
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,640
myself too, and it's like, yeah, totally, Derek, I get you.

737
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,839
And when you saw how it played out, Derek gave

738
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,599
her every shot in the world to get this and

739
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,000
she fucked it up, and so he took it. But

740
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,359
on the other hand, if he would have let her

741
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,720
have another few seconds, maybe she would have had an

742
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:24,279
extra fifty thousand dollars, you know what I mean, and

743
00:33:24,319 --> 00:33:26,319
he wouldn't have suffered at all. So there might be

744
00:33:26,319 --> 00:33:28,480
a little bit of something in there of like, uh oh,

745
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,000
I mean, you don't know how it's gonna work out,

746
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:32,559
but sorry, Derek, that's maybe.

747
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,599
Speaker 5: But I don't because who is the next person that

748
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:38,200
came up. I think she still would have been in

749
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,720
the same place for females.

750
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: Maybe I guess was it kylind ok I got Yeah,

751
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,079
I don't know how it all worked.

752
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,559
Speaker 5: Out, And yeah, I don't because yeah, because it was

753
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:52,640
Derek came up and challenged her, and then Johnny came up,

754
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,880
and then Kylon came up. So if if Derek had

755
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,599
let her win, then Derek would have gone against Johnny

756
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:00,240
and Derek probably.

757
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920
Speaker 4: That one, okay, so she would have the same place.

758
00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:04,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, would the spot.

759
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 2: I think her strategy was she could outswim whoever, just

760
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:09,519
when she.

761
00:34:09,559 --> 00:34:11,199
Speaker 4: Might have beat somebody back to the boat had she

762
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,320
gone first, maybe, I guess. We don't know how that

763
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:14,760
works out.

764
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,639
Speaker 5: Johnny was Johnny was already on land. So even if

765
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:26,159
even if she had he had let her win, then

766
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,280
I think it looked like it was I don't know,

767
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,079
only it looked like it was a pretty quick change

768
00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:33,159
over every time. I don't know, I could have just

769
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,639
been show magic. But yeah, maybe she could have beat

770
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:37,000
the person swimming, but.

771
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, well never well we won't know how that would

772
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,239
have worked out. But it's it's a weird thought.

773
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,440
Speaker 5: Oh that's true. Scott says that she still beat all

774
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:45,760
the girls, but Jenny back to the.

775
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:50,760
Speaker 4: Boat yeah, oh so she wouldn't be Jenny anyway, No

776
00:34:51,039 --> 00:34:53,840
matter what, she wouldn't beat Jenny. Yeah, so it probably wouldn't.

777
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:54,840
It probably didn't change an thing.

778
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 5: It was. It was just it was the two. It

779
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:03,280
was Rachel, and it was really it was her. Rachel

780
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,320
and Tory were also all three vuying for second place,

781
00:35:06,559 --> 00:35:11,719
and really it was heard Rachel buying for a second place.

782
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,559
But yeah, there was no way that anyone is beating Jenny, Jenny, Jenny.

783
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,519
Jenny did not get the same kind of credit that

784
00:35:17,559 --> 00:35:20,960
Jordan did for placing first, but Jenny placed first on

785
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,880
a good amount of these.

786
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, Jenny was sandbagging all season, like we can. We

787
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,000
can admit that now, right, she was faking these these

788
00:35:28,039 --> 00:35:28,880
asthma taxi shit.

789
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:31,519
Speaker 5: Well no, I mean you could you could hear her

790
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:36,119
like her asthma going during the swims and whatnot. They

791
00:35:36,519 --> 00:35:37,760
brought it up a few different times.

792
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,079
Speaker 4: But I really think she was. I really think she

793
00:35:40,119 --> 00:35:43,000
was making herself look weaker and was probably I really

794
00:35:43,039 --> 00:35:45,000
do seeing how she performed in this final, I really

795
00:35:45,039 --> 00:35:45,639
I really think that.

796
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 6: Yeah.

797
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, final checkpoint checkpoint seven. They have to swim out

798
00:35:52,519 --> 00:35:56,199
to a booby then use an underwater scooter to follow

799
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,800
underwater Boois into a cave and receive a token and

800
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,000
then and use those same scooters get back to the boat.

801
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:05,920
Jordan is the first one to make it into this cave,

802
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:08,719
but his goggles or something fuck up and he can't

803
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,079
find the token, so he's one of the last people

804
00:36:11,079 --> 00:36:16,119
to come out of the cave. But every single woman

805
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:18,360
makes it back to the boat before any of the

806
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,920
dudes do. All four women are back at the boat

807
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,199
and then Jordan shows up.

808
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 4: Yep, those scooters were badass. Uh one of those things. Yeah,

809
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:33,519
circles like a fucking tornado.

810
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:40,159
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. And then once they're back on the boat.

811
00:36:40,159 --> 00:36:44,000
From checkpoint seven, we get the announcement of Okay, here

812
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:48,719
are all the points Karma boat points were worth two

813
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,760
checkpoint points, which I think that means they were worth

814
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:53,559
double the checkpoint points.

815
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 4: I think that's the better way to sum that up.

816
00:36:55,519 --> 00:36:59,039
Speaker 5: Yet, but he kept saying they're worth two checkpoints because

817
00:36:59,079 --> 00:37:01,239
that means that they are Like, I don't know, it

818
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:03,960
sounded weird. You just you should have just said they

819
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,920
were worth double what the checkpoints are, Yeah, because that

820
00:37:07,119 --> 00:37:10,000
made more sense to me. But I could have that wrong.

821
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:10,519
Speaker 6: Uh.

822
00:37:10,559 --> 00:37:14,559
Speaker 5: For the men the Karma vote didn't really matter because

823
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:19,119
even with the Karma vote points, it looked like the

824
00:37:19,159 --> 00:37:21,639
point spread was far enough out there that it didn't

825
00:37:22,119 --> 00:37:24,800
that nothing changed because of it.

826
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,599
Speaker 4: But Derek got closer. I mean, they didn't change the placings,

827
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,880
but Derek did. It was a closer second because of that.

828
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:31,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, he got a little bit closer, but it didn't

829
00:37:31,679 --> 00:37:34,719
change the placement. So first place was Jordan, second place

830
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,079
was Derek, third place was Johnny, and fourth place was Kyland,

831
00:37:38,679 --> 00:37:41,920
which I mean we all knew anyway, because like, Jordan

832
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:46,719
fucking annihilated everyone in this in this final as he did.

833
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Johnny sucked. Yeah, Like, I see what you're

834
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:54,360
saying about watching Johnny age. Yeah, saw it, saw it

835
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,960
right before our eyes with a spile right here.

836
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 6: Yep, yep.

837
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:00,519
Speaker 5: I was really excited to see Derek a second. I

838
00:38:00,519 --> 00:38:02,480
thought that was great. I mean it really did show

839
00:38:02,519 --> 00:38:06,400
like how good of a competitor he actually is, considering

840
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,599
what a fluff player he was back in the day.

841
00:38:09,519 --> 00:38:11,159
Speaker 6: I hate to say it, but I think it's time

842
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:14,039
for Bananas to go to All Stars and race Cyrus

843
00:38:14,119 --> 00:38:14,880
in the final.

844
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:20,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's done, because the challenge is done. There's gonna

845
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:21,079
be no more new episodes ever.

846
00:38:21,119 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 6: For that, I doubt that.

847
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 3: I hope.

848
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 5: So all right for the women, the karma vote did

849
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:38,199
actually come into play. Fourth place is Tory, which again

850
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,159
we all kind of I think everybody knew going into this.

851
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,440
Third place with Michelle.

852
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: I feel like her vacation alliance quote unquote, she's realized

853
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,599
she's got real soft play in this game toy she needs. Yeah,

854
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:59,599
she needs to get back on the horse and get Yeah,

855
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:03,199
I think back in shape and back into like a

856
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,559
good social game of some sort.

857
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, it feels like she's been very protected the last

858
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:10,440
few games, and that's just kind of carried her.

859
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 4: I don't know. She talked to this like she won

860
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:18,480
a bunch of challenges this time and at least one elimination, right,

861
00:39:18,599 --> 00:39:21,360
Like she worked for this. But final, this.

862
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,039
Speaker 3: Final performance was embarrassing.

863
00:39:23,199 --> 00:39:26,800
Speaker 4: This final performance terrible for yes, for sure, and I

864
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,400
think she thought it was going to be pretty easy

865
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,199
for her. Yeah.

866
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:37,119
Speaker 5: Third place was Michelle, who was knocked down from second

867
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:43,000
place because of the Karma vote. Yeah, there was no

868
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:49,039
second place because Rachel went. Rachel went from third to

869
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:53,119
tying with Jenny for first, which I did not think

870
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,920
was something they would do, because then they split the

871
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,360
fir the first place prize between Jenny and Rachel, and

872
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,559
both of them are a static and jumping up and down,

873
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,239
and I, as I was watching this show, this is

874
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,840
the first time that I have actually agreed with Zach

875
00:40:09,199 --> 00:40:15,000
on this game is not rigged, because in my head

876
00:40:15,039 --> 00:40:17,519
it was. There is no way in hell production would

877
00:40:17,559 --> 00:40:21,000
have actually let them tie. They would have done some

878
00:40:21,199 --> 00:40:24,239
ridiculous thing where one of them, where you know, Rachel

879
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,519
ekes it out by one point because she came back

880
00:40:26,559 --> 00:40:29,039
from a million years And the moment that they said

881
00:40:29,079 --> 00:40:33,039
that they were splitting first place, I was like, maybe

882
00:40:33,639 --> 00:40:34,639
maybe it's not rigged.

883
00:40:35,639 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 3: I don't care if it was rigged or not. It's

884
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:39,800
complete bullshit.

885
00:40:40,079 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, it's so fucking stupid.

886
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: There should have been a tiebreaker.

887
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,760
Speaker 2: And the thing I would say is the it should

888
00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,840
have been the karma vote. Whoever got more of a

889
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:51,519
Karma vote yes, which would have been Rachel.

890
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:53,679
Speaker 4: Oh why do you Why would that have been? Why

891
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:56,119
would why would you have settled that way? Would have

892
00:40:56,159 --> 00:40:56,760
done the other way.

893
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: It's the only thing I could think of that somebody

894
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,480
did better than somebody else.

895
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,239
Speaker 4: I would have said whoever did better in the final

896
00:41:06,639 --> 00:41:08,960
would have won it. If I had to cheat, you know,

897
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,079
between who did bet at the Karma versus who did

898
00:41:11,119 --> 00:41:11,960
bet at the final, I would have.

899
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,760
Speaker 2: J made a big stink about you know, how you

900
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,320
treat people matters. Yes, and you we told the people

901
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:20,199
eliminated people.

902
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,679
Speaker 3: He's like, you could be making a choice of who wins.

903
00:41:24,159 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, then Rachel, Rachel could Si gets second place and

904
00:41:27,519 --> 00:41:29,599
Michelle could get third. You know, like do a swaper

905
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:32,079
ruin instead of swip instead of splitting first.

906
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know that was advocate.

907
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, who knows.

908
00:41:38,039 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 5: It felt weird to me that they that they combined it.

909
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,440
And to Scott's points, Scott says, did they combine first

910
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,239
and second place money? They didn't explicitly say it, but

911
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,360
I think the assumption is yes.

912
00:41:49,199 --> 00:41:52,280
Speaker 3: They total they gave it was four seventy five.

913
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 4: Yeah, they said that.

914
00:41:54,079 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 5: I think, yeah, oh did they.

915
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,119
Speaker 4: Yea, yes, they'll be splitting that so yeah, two thirty

916
00:41:59,159 --> 00:42:00,679
seven ish or whatever that ends up being.

917
00:42:01,079 --> 00:42:03,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, nothing to shake a stick at. But

918
00:42:03,679 --> 00:42:06,079
at the same time, like if you're going for that

919
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:10,039
first place of four hundred grand, like yeah.

920
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,639
Speaker 4: So what do you guys think and when it turned

921
00:42:10,639 --> 00:42:12,760
when it when you talk about Challenge champs, like, Rachel

922
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,800
is already a champ, so she remains a champ. But

923
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:16,679
does this count as a championship for her? Is she

924
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:18,840
a three time champ? Are we counting this?

925
00:42:19,559 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 5: I mean, Jenny's also already a champ.

926
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 4: Well sure, but I mean and and I think Jenny

927
00:42:24,039 --> 00:42:24,960
should count as one.

928
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,599
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Rachel.

929
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,199
Speaker 4: Like again, I don't know. I think there's some, there's some,

930
00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:31,000
there's some.

931
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like, yeah, I feel like this will

932
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,039
this will forever live as one of those ones with

933
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:38,719
a little asterisk next to it. Like, yes, she did

934
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:43,920
place first, but like like half of the half of

935
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:44,440
the final.

936
00:42:45,159 --> 00:42:47,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah. It's like Hunter won Final Reckoning, but he

937
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:49,679
didn't when he didn't get any money.

938
00:42:49,639 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 5: So well yeah Hunter Sarah Like it's it's those people

939
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,719
who who won their season but didn't get any money

940
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:56,000
for it.

941
00:42:56,199 --> 00:42:58,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is the opposite. Rachel got money. Did

942
00:42:58,679 --> 00:43:01,400
she win? I don't know. People seem kind of torn

943
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,360
whether this is fair or not.

944
00:43:03,039 --> 00:43:05,559
Speaker 6: I think she won, Like I think the Karma vote thing,

945
00:43:05,639 --> 00:43:07,360
like I said, I saw it was stupid. If they're

946
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:09,840
gonna they should only have time. But that's the rules

947
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,559
of the season. And like it or not, like she

948
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,280
won based on the rules of the season.

949
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, still say bullshit.

950
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 4: Yeah I do too.

951
00:43:21,239 --> 00:43:23,159
Speaker 3: I don't. I mean, there shouldn't.

952
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:28,679
Speaker 2: Be a first, third, and fourth, Yeah and fourth, that's

953
00:43:28,679 --> 00:43:29,440
how it should work.

954
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,480
Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and there's something that really rubs me the

955
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:35,320
wrong way about elevating a player. And I know, and

956
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,960
I like Rachel by the way, from third to first,

957
00:43:38,039 --> 00:43:41,159
based on these rules that nobody even knew were coming,

958
00:43:41,199 --> 00:43:44,599
Like nobody played with this in mind or comedy. There's

959
00:43:44,599 --> 00:43:46,159
definitely a part of me that's like, well, Rachel, what

960
00:43:46,199 --> 00:43:48,480
did you do to deserve that? Like you just this

961
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:51,119
was luck. Like I understand it's the relationship you made,

962
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:54,519
blah blah blah, but it's like it's a lot of luck.

963
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 5: But I mean, this is this is what I mean.

964
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,280
But it kind of feels like you guys are talking

965
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,239
out to both sides your mouth. Because we have we

966
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:05,079
have talked for years about how like gameplay in the house,

967
00:44:05,639 --> 00:44:08,599
the relationships between all of the character, all the characters,

968
00:44:08,679 --> 00:44:11,639
all the players are a big deal. Like that is

969
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:15,440
a huge part of this game. It's a massive strategic

970
00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:18,360
part of this game. So yeah. I mean they may

971
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,599
not have known about the karma points, but you still

972
00:44:21,639 --> 00:44:23,880
have to, like, you still have to play a good

973
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,039
game in the house and on the field, like if

974
00:44:27,039 --> 00:44:29,440
you if you lose one of those things and you're

975
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:30,599
not gonna do well in this game.

976
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,039
Speaker 4: That's the point. Carl and Rachel did very poorly on

977
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:37,679
the field in the final and still got first, like

978
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,360
that just second.

979
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,760
Speaker 5: But Jenny did. Jenny did really shitty in the house

980
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,920
and still did really well on the field, And it

981
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,199
just it. It's one of those like there, I feel

982
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,119
like they're both a huge part of the challenge. You

983
00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:50,599
have to be really good in the house and you

984
00:44:50,639 --> 00:44:52,000
have to be really good on the field in order

985
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:54,880
to have these things. Yeah, but the I don't know,

986
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,280
it just it. I don't have as much a problem

987
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:57,760
with it as you.

988
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I really do. It feels like a big part

989
00:45:00,679 --> 00:45:03,599
to be sprung on somebody. That's like we've talked a

990
00:45:03,639 --> 00:45:05,360
lot of this show, like we never know the rules

991
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,840
right away, but we we always know the rules before

992
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,360
the final before you're like fucking done with the final,

993
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,480
where it's like, hey, you might have destroyed everything and

994
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,280
done really well, but you might have still also.

995
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 3: Lost, Jacqueline says, yeah, but still.

996
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 4: Okay, good point. Also, by the way, Jacqueline my counterpoint

997
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:24,559
to the yab But still, this is also a really

998
00:45:24,559 --> 00:45:26,519
shitty way to do a final because it's more fun

999
00:45:26,519 --> 00:45:29,199
to watch them end and then you know they've won.

1000
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:32,000
It is super not cool to watch them all just

1001
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:34,840
standing there and it's like you're all just sort of like, well,

1002
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,920
who won, Like we're all fucking done. Now. Tell us

1003
00:45:36,920 --> 00:45:38,480
some some points, TJ.

1004
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:43,760
Speaker 2: Especially the way TJ like announced it with the guys.

1005
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:48,679
He's like, oh, first place, Jordan, Oh yeah, he did.

1006
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:51,039
Speaker 5: It real quick, like first, second, third, fourth. Oh, there's

1007
00:45:51,079 --> 00:45:53,119
not even any build up to this one right.

1008
00:45:53,079 --> 00:45:56,280
Speaker 4: Where where's the scene where you're touching the flag and

1009
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,559
you're like, TJ, did I get it?

1010
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:58,760
Speaker 5: Is it me? Oh?

1011
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,360
Speaker 4: You know, it's like, oh, you're just stay out on

1012
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,480
a boat. You're just standing there. You don't even look tired,

1013
00:46:03,559 --> 00:46:07,079
you're not breathing hard or nothing. Like hours later, probably.

1014
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:11,800
Speaker 5: David says, is Rachel a champ for this season or

1015
00:46:11,840 --> 00:46:13,000
just miscongeniality?

1016
00:46:14,559 --> 00:46:17,519
Speaker 4: Yeah, right, David, you get the point of my question.

1017
00:46:19,039 --> 00:46:24,039
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I I'm okay with it. At the

1018
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:27,199
same time, Michelle got completely fucked. Yeah, like that sucks.

1019
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:31,639
Speaker 4: Yeah for Michelle. Yeah, and she showed to this tenacity.

1020
00:46:31,639 --> 00:46:34,000
I love Michelle. She's great, Like she this is the

1021
00:46:34,159 --> 00:46:37,199
this is the lady that like never fucking stops Wolfie

1022
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,119
and Bananas. At least you remember her on War of

1023
00:46:39,159 --> 00:46:41,440
the Worlds. She played for the bottom the whole time.

1024
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,360
She fucked up that whole game. She just like she

1025
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:45,559
just like kept going.

1026
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:49,119
Speaker 5: She just like, yeah, I don't know, Michelle's brought on

1027
00:46:49,159 --> 00:46:50,800
me a little bit, but there she still has her

1028
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,480
moments where she just nois the funk out of me.

1029
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:56,159
Speaker 6: But Michelle is on the world.

1030
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,119
Speaker 4: I met winners at War. Sorry, winters at War?

1031
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:01,639
Speaker 3: I know.

1032
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: Sorry.

1033
00:47:03,159 --> 00:47:04,719
Speaker 5: I thought you were talking about the last season that

1034
00:47:04,719 --> 00:47:05,000
she was.

1035
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 4: On My Challenge. When when is it War Survivor the

1036
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,039
second time she played Survivor, where she like, yeah, terrible,

1037
00:47:11,079 --> 00:47:13,280
she played a terrible game, but she kept fighting like

1038
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:15,559
she didn't stop the whole time. She kept going. And

1039
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:18,880
she plays third in a game of Survivor against every

1040
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:20,840
other Survivor winner, like it's pretty good.

1041
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 6: I think, I mean, yes, she did. But I also

1042
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:27,559
felt like that season I was not how much shelf

1043
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:29,960
fan that season, I feel like they kind of saw

1044
00:47:30,199 --> 00:47:33,800
her position, like this girl has no power, no friends,

1045
00:47:34,639 --> 00:47:36,960
She's just easy to drag along to the end and

1046
00:47:37,159 --> 00:47:40,079
get an easy win over. So like, yes, she went far,

1047
00:47:40,119 --> 00:47:42,800
but I don't think it's of her own gameplay.

1048
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 4: Maybe. But she didn't stop, is my point. She didn't quit,

1049
00:47:46,039 --> 00:47:47,280
She just kept she kept going.

1050
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 2: All right, Well, Tim, I don't know what is up

1051
00:47:52,840 --> 00:48:00,320
with your internet, but pre show is only ninety seven percent.

1052
00:48:01,079 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 4: What I see fifty three, so we're doing just.

1053
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 2: I just look to see how much of this episode

1054
00:48:08,119 --> 00:48:10,519
of yours has already uploaded, and it's twenty two.

1055
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 4: Lord, all right, well sorry, I guess I was definitely

1056
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:14,800
my computer on all night.

1057
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:22,519
Speaker 5: All right, I got that was the season, and you

1058
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:26,159
know I was. It was rolling through the credits, and

1059
00:48:26,199 --> 00:48:30,079
then the best thing that could have possibly ever happened happened,

1060
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,360
and we got what is going on over there? Za?

1061
00:48:33,480 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 4: Meet your phone? Jesus Christ, what are you doing?

1062
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,760
Speaker 5: Yeah? We have here stuff in the background. The best

1063
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,440
thing that could have ever happened happened. We got the

1064
00:48:43,519 --> 00:48:47,000
last scene of the entire show was CT pro tip.

1065
00:48:47,639 --> 00:48:48,679
Speaker 3: What is this? What is this?

1066
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,679
Speaker 5: I like tage a book by its cover?

1067
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:53,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, just the.

1068
00:48:53,679 --> 00:48:56,559
Speaker 4: Return of the CT pro tip Tim didn't need made me.

1069
00:48:56,639 --> 00:48:58,920
Speaker 5: It made me irrationally happy.

1070
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:04,039
Speaker 3: Yea, I'm with you. Carlin fucked him. It's just sad.

1071
00:49:04,119 --> 00:49:06,239
This is melting down on social media.

1072
00:49:07,039 --> 00:49:08,639
Speaker 5: That's part of social media.

1073
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 3: That's part of it.

1074
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,280
Speaker 4: It's like, let's leave leave this guy alone.

1075
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, but this was This is good CT. This is

1076
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:15,159
not melt down CT. This is good CT.

1077
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,800
Speaker 4: I know, Swanny says. It seems kind of random. Yeah,

1078
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:18,519
it seemed like a little bit.

1079
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:20,559
Speaker 5: Oh, I loved it. I loved that they like they

1080
00:49:20,639 --> 00:49:22,760
pulled it out of the like, oh here, we're gonna

1081
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,360
give you one nice, more little tasty morsel.

1082
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 4: Wolfy Carlin, this is masturbation. This is challenge masturbation. It's

1083
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,920
just CT fucking masturbate to this fucking gay.

1084
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 5: I have no problem with that. Well, there you go,

1085
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:36,360
no problem with that at all.

1086
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 4: It was fine, but it was random and it was

1087
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:41,159
weird and CT made no like impact on the season

1088
00:49:41,199 --> 00:49:42,039
at all. It was weird.

1089
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 5: No, he didn't, but that's okay. I love him anyway.

1090
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 4: It was also weird. It was kind of cool seeing

1091
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,079
them read the Karma vote of like these people I

1092
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:50,480
forgot played this season like Oh, yeah, Katie was Oh

1093
00:49:50,559 --> 00:49:53,440
Jody was there my seven months ago? How can I

1094
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:53,840
remember that?

1095
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,159
Speaker 5: I understand I fast forwarded through so much of this episode.

1096
00:49:58,119 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 4: Did you miss Jody? Jody was there for having second.

1097
00:50:00,519 --> 00:50:03,079
Speaker 5: Every time they started talking about Karma. I don't, I don't,

1098
00:50:03,199 --> 00:50:05,519
I don't half of these things we've seen already. I

1099
00:50:05,559 --> 00:50:07,760
don't care. I don't care. I just want to get through.

1100
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,079
Like this entire finale could have been a single episode.

1101
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I agree with that too, But I did like

1102
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,679
the like there was like a flashback of a lot

1103
00:50:15,679 --> 00:50:17,159
of the winners right in a row right. I don't

1104
00:50:17,159 --> 00:50:18,360
know if it was all forty of them, but it

1105
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:24,079
showed like the last scene of a lot of finales. Zach,

1106
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:25,880
I was kind of into that. It's nice to like

1107
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,320
reminisce for a second or two at a time. No, Nope,

1108
00:50:29,039 --> 00:50:31,159
Well they didn't care. I looked for I looked for

1109
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,079
Kenny and Evan. I did not see them in that ensemble.

1110
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:34,800
Speaker 5: That's priced.

1111
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,679
Speaker 4: I don't know if they're trying to wash them out

1112
00:50:36,679 --> 00:50:37,559
of the challenge. Existence.

1113
00:50:37,679 --> 00:50:41,679
Speaker 5: Yeah, they haven't showed them the challenge in years. They're

1114
00:50:41,679 --> 00:50:42,559
not going to do that ever.

1115
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 4: Again, did you catch them Zach in the background anything

1116
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,800
during that weird little flashback moment.

1117
00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:50,639
Speaker 6: I didn't, but I also wasn't looking specifically for to

1118
00:50:50,639 --> 00:50:51,400
go check again.

1119
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 2: The best part, as Patty points out, is that Carr

1120
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,800
gave Banana's one star and said we're Sarah.

1121
00:50:57,960 --> 00:50:59,079
Speaker 4: Yeah. I did like that too.

1122
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,199
Speaker 3: Fuck yeah.

1123
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:01,559
Speaker 4: Ye.

1124
00:51:02,199 --> 00:51:05,519
Speaker 5: People may not like Sarah. But Johnny has been dining

1125
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,360
out on the fact that he stole the money for

1126
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:09,440
literal years.

1127
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:13,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, well that is true karma, right that he gets

1128
00:51:13,239 --> 00:51:16,280
a one for for that, Like, that's a true yeah,

1129
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:17,880
Jacquelin says it too. Yep, there is.

1130
00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:20,840
Speaker 5: Unfortunately didn't do anything for his game.

1131
00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 4: So yeah, but he lost, And Zach, I do think

1132
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,320
this was this is a loss from Bananas for being

1133
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,760
an old man. Now. I think, uh, a younger, a younger,

1134
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,079
a younger Bananas would.

1135
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,159
Speaker 6: Have And I know they're starting to bring like the

1136
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,000
young kids onto All Stars. But I need n't have

1137
00:51:36,039 --> 00:51:39,239
gone All Stars and he have final like him Cyrus,

1138
00:51:39,360 --> 00:51:42,920
you know a bunch of kefla. I need Banans to

1139
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,880
go kick their asses.

1140
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,039
Speaker 4: But Zach, don't you think there's also something we said

1141
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:48,039
for like this argument of like who's the greatest of

1142
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:49,840
all time? And then you see him head to head

1143
00:51:50,039 --> 00:51:52,639
and and Jordan just destroys Banana.

1144
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: Arlen, I know why you're laughing.

1145
00:51:55,960 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 5: No, I know it's wrong. I know it is. But

1146
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,639
EDWARDO just posted in the chat room. MTV doesn't allow

1147
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,880
Kenny Evan and toothbrushes to be shown on the Challenge anymore.

1148
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:16,719
Ye stay laughing at that. That is not an okay

1149
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,000
thing to be laughing at. If you don't know why

1150
00:52:20,039 --> 00:52:23,239
I'm laughing, then you need to go on the look

1151
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:27,159
up shock type those three words in type Kenny Evan,

1152
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,440
toothbrushes in the Challenge and too google.

1153
00:52:30,119 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 6: Yeah. But and to answer your questions him, no, because

1154
00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:37,840
Jordan is still his mid thirties. He's like sons prime,

1155
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,679
so to say like, oh, he's gained astic.

1156
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 5: By in his prime, Jordan, Yeah, I'm still in my prime.

1157
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:50,400
Speaker 2: Then David wants to know tim is your stance on

1158
00:52:50,519 --> 00:52:52,800
toothbrush porn in the same.

1159
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 4: Stands on straightboard or stock porn, which is, oh, let's

1160
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:04,079
combine them. I'm stuck in a I'm stuck in a

1161
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:08,440
dryer and I need to brush my teeth. Jesus, I

1162
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:11,400
mean I'm into both, you know whatever warmholes I don't think.

1163
00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:13,559
Speaker 5: I don't think the Tim likes toothbrushes for the same

1164
00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:16,039
reason that Tim doesn't like women putting on makeup. I

1165
00:53:16,039 --> 00:53:17,719
feel like it falls in that same category.

1166
00:53:18,559 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 4: Well, toothbrush, I'm okay watching people brush their teeth, but

1167
00:53:23,039 --> 00:53:26,320
make but not spray paint spray paint on their teeth either.

1168
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 5: Okay, spray paint on your teeth versus.

1169
00:53:29,519 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 4: Very different, very different. I'm okay, I'm okay.

1170
00:53:32,199 --> 00:53:33,360
Speaker 5: Put makeup on your face.

1171
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:36,920
Speaker 4: No, that's a private thing. That's a private behind closed doors.

1172
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:39,039
I don't even see that behind shut that.

1173
00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 5: I feel like there's a more private thing than makeup.

1174
00:53:43,119 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 4: Do you really brush your teeth? Like, would you rather

1175
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:49,760
would you rather hang on hang on hand? Would you rather,

1176
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,480
like a strange dude, watch you brush your teeth or

1177
00:53:52,519 --> 00:53:56,559
put on deodorant, which is a more like intimate thing.

1178
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:58,480
You don't care, that's the same things, that's the same.

1179
00:53:58,559 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 5: Neither of those things intimate.

1180
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:04,119
Speaker 4: It or makeup or or brushing your teeth, those are.

1181
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 6: Also the more intimate, just because totally you're lifting your

1182
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:08,760
shirt up.

1183
00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 4: It's fully more inturate, no question about it. The odorant

1184
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:13,400
is more intimate.

1185
00:54:13,079 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 5: Than toothsure for the collar or like.

1186
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 4: Even that is more intimate than toothbrushing. It's not. It's

1187
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:19,679
not close, Karlin, How dare you even assume that that's close?

1188
00:54:20,119 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 5: I don't feel like any I mean, I yeah, I

1189
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:27,599
feel like all of these things are on the same hm. Honestly,

1190
00:54:27,639 --> 00:54:30,719
it's like the difference for me is like taking a

1191
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:33,199
ship versus putting on the odorant.

1192
00:54:33,679 --> 00:54:37,760
Speaker 4: Like that's the that's the difference you get to wolf

1193
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,519
is ready to just be done. You guys, Hey, listen

1194
00:54:42,519 --> 00:54:44,079
to the after show if you guys want to hear

1195
00:54:44,159 --> 00:54:46,159
us talk more about I'm sure.

1196
00:54:46,159 --> 00:54:49,639
Speaker 5: I'm sure that this will just evolve into more ridiculous conversations.

1197
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 4: People really want to know what we think. They really

1198
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,719
need to know what we think about this.

1199
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 5: Okay, So do we want to do the public fantasy League?

1200
00:54:57,559 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 6: Go for it?

1201
00:54:59,639 --> 00:55:01,639
Speaker 5: So, oh, what happens if we don't have a winner?

1202
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,079
Speaker 6: Well, we do have a winner, yeah, but she.

1203
00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 5: Currently hosts the podcast, so I can't guest host.

1204
00:55:09,039 --> 00:55:10,639
Speaker 4: You gotta split it with we gotta split it with

1205
00:55:10,679 --> 00:55:16,400
the other person.

1206
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 6: Kim Wolfe and I gave our second place person our

1207
00:55:19,039 --> 00:55:19,639
karma vote.

1208
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 4: Oh no, otherwise you gotta go. You gotta do something

1209
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,639
real fucked up where you say every other word, can

1210
00:55:26,679 --> 00:55:27,000
you do that?

1211
00:55:28,599 --> 00:55:32,119
Speaker 5: All? Right? So people did apparently not did not take

1212
00:55:32,159 --> 00:55:35,840
my advice two weeks ago when I said that I

1213
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,239
only had six players left and I was putting two

1214
00:55:38,320 --> 00:55:41,440
on the last week and then put four to this

1215
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,159
week because this is the big week, like Tim didn't

1216
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:45,960
put anything for this week and put all of them

1217
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:48,119
on last week when there wasn't anything. You can get

1218
00:55:48,159 --> 00:55:49,440
all your huge points today.

1219
00:55:50,559 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 4: But is no regrets, no regrets.

1220
00:55:52,639 --> 00:55:56,679
Speaker 5: Ultimately we finished the season. I am in first with

1221
00:55:56,960 --> 00:56:01,800
three thy six hundred and fifty two. I touched Johnny bananas.

1222
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:07,599
There's Johnny's banana. Garrett H finished second with thirty five

1223
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,400
forty nine. So, Garrett H, if we continue this, if

1224
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:18,719
the world does not evolve into a hellscape, yea mad Max,

1225
00:56:19,559 --> 00:56:22,880
Let's go Dystopia in the next two weeks, and we

1226
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:28,119
actually have a podcast for All Stars five. We will

1227
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,079
you will get to guest host an episode.

1228
00:56:31,079 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 4: We got you, Garrett, We got you.

1229
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,880
Speaker 5: So reach out to the Facebook, which we haven't reached

1230
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:38,159
out to.

1231
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,199
Speaker 4: We have some sort of plan for this, right, We

1232
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,639
do have an email address that we never use, and true,

1233
00:56:44,679 --> 00:56:45,719
do you have email?

1234
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:47,159
Speaker 3: Nobody checks it.

1235
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:51,760
Speaker 5: I mean you can reach out on the Facebook or

1236
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,599
the Instagram or any of.

1237
00:56:53,559 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 4: Us the Instagram that hey, good luck on my phone,

1238
00:57:00,079 --> 00:57:00,719
we talked to you soon.

1239
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, message on one of those platforms, and we will

1240
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,400
coordinate a night for you to come in guest host

1241
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,119
with us or and then.

1242
00:57:09,079 --> 00:57:12,440
Speaker 2: If nobody does, then I guess Carlin's boyfriend will have

1243
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:13,679
to take us.

1244
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, the name close enough?

1245
00:57:18,719 --> 00:57:23,400
Speaker 5: Uh if he if he's here, it's super close. You

1246
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:25,039
were the one who you were the one who thought

1247
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:25,920
that that was him.

1248
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:30,119
Speaker 4: Man, I did it so drunk. I can't wait. If

1249
00:57:30,159 --> 00:57:33,519
I could, I would stop. I can't too much good.

1250
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 5: And then third place is take the money and run.

1251
00:57:37,559 --> 00:57:42,199
Jeremy C with thirty four sixty four and our big

1252
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:47,760
uncle sweet Tea last week was in fourth place. He

1253
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:52,199
shot his load too early and didn't hold any people

1254
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:55,079
for this week, so he didn't put any points in

1255
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:58,000
for this week, so he is he's down at seven.

1256
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 4: I would have I listen, I would have itted up

1257
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:02,679
the same place because the players I had to not win,

1258
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,719
so it didn't matter.

1259
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:09,079
Speaker 5: Yeah, but did they Okay, they didn't win, but you

1260
00:58:09,079 --> 00:58:11,800
would have gotten more points because I had Uh, I

1261
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:14,920
didn't have Derek Tith back, you would have gotten more points.

1262
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 4: Listen, there's there's no way I would have gotten even

1263
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:19,880
fifth place. Frankly, I might have I might have beaten

1264
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:21,800
sixth place, but I really don't think my point's matter.

1265
00:58:21,800 --> 00:58:22,840
I mean, it's I forget.

1266
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 5: I think you would have beat sixth place. You might

1267
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,440
have gotten closer, Carlyn.

1268
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 4: Can you let me just be happy and satisfied with

1269
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:32,679
myself please in this No, dude, literally, I was so

1270
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:36,559
proud of myself and now, Carl, Hey, I'm done. I'm done.

1271
00:58:36,599 --> 00:58:37,039
Let's move on.

1272
00:58:37,719 --> 00:58:40,039
Speaker 5: I opened the app last week and was like, oh fuck.

1273
00:58:40,239 --> 00:58:42,360
I really hope that Tim was right when he was

1274
00:58:42,519 --> 00:58:44,599
like truthful when he said that he was using all

1275
00:58:44,599 --> 00:58:46,480
of his players this week because he's gonna beat me

1276
00:58:46,519 --> 00:58:49,519
next week if he has any more players. No, because

1277
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,440
I wasn't third and you were in fourth.

1278
00:58:51,599 --> 00:58:53,679
Speaker 4: Carlin, there's I'm four hundred points behind you. I was

1279
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,760
never gonna catch you. I was never good. There's no

1280
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:57,239
way I could have played these last couple of weeks

1281
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,480
and caught you. So I'm fine with my placing and

1282
00:58:59,519 --> 00:59:02,159
I should be out of that and stop judging me. Please. No,

1283
00:59:02,239 --> 00:59:03,960
I think it's fucking great, Van Bananas, I beat the

1284
00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:05,800
fucking ship out of you. I don't need to take

1285
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,239
Carlin's ships because I placed a few complimenting you. Fuck

1286
00:59:10,239 --> 00:59:15,039
yours up, Hey, fuck you Carlin. To move on. I

1287
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:16,320
know I got I got real harsh.

1288
00:59:16,679 --> 00:59:18,639
Speaker 3: Halfway through, real harsh, and.

1289
00:59:18,599 --> 00:59:19,119
Speaker 4: We'll be back.

1290
00:59:19,639 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 5: I was complimenting you, sir.

1291
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,159
Speaker 4: I got mean, I got mean. I'm done. I'm done

1292
00:59:24,159 --> 00:59:28,519
with negotiating this. No, I thought it was I was

1293
00:59:28,920 --> 00:59:32,199
David David, head of you, Carlin, very excited for you.

1294
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:35,639
David says, I win, So I win, Thanks David.

1295
00:59:35,800 --> 00:59:37,199
Speaker 3: Sim's going to go host son.

1296
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,760
Speaker 5: All right. And then Zachi Bananas made it into seventeenth

1297
00:59:43,199 --> 00:59:48,360
with twenty eight thirty six and then for our budget

1298
00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:54,760
League for a crisp Virtual high five, Peter B congratulations,

1299
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,880
c T phone home, Peter, Chris pig five.

1300
00:59:59,519 --> 01:00:01,000
Speaker 4: Is that the main guy? That is that the main

1301
01:00:01,519 --> 01:00:03,480
We have two Peters. One is a patron. One is

1302
01:00:03,519 --> 01:00:05,199
the main guy that runs this fucking thing.

1303
01:00:07,679 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 5: I don't actually know. Hold on, I might be able

1304
01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:14,880
to find out. Uh, because Peter shows up on our

1305
01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,039
thing every once in a while.

1306
01:00:18,039 --> 01:00:19,719
Speaker 4: Peter Peter on the chair.

1307
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 5: Uh yeah, I'm pretty sure. Peter b is the guy

1308
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:23,840
who runs all of us.

1309
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:25,239
Speaker 4: Well he cheated?

1310
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:32,039
Speaker 5: Sure whatever? Uh yeah, so Peter Bee, congratulations Chrispy five.

1311
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,960
And then second place was I touched Johnny's banana, and

1312
01:00:37,039 --> 01:00:41,519
third place was me, I give up that one. Yeah.

1313
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:46,719
The Host League, even even with Zach trading away three

1314
01:00:46,760 --> 01:00:48,000
of his players.

1315
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:51,480
Speaker 4: Not trading giving donating don three of.

1316
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:54,159
Speaker 5: His players, he still beat the absolute fucking pants off

1317
01:00:54,159 --> 01:00:54,880
of all of us.

1318
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:58,559
Speaker 4: Well done, Zach, Well then.

1319
01:00:58,599 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 5: Absolutely nuts he in, at least on the online version.

1320
01:01:03,239 --> 01:01:06,559
He ended up at four three hundred and seventy six points,

1321
01:01:07,039 --> 01:01:10,000
and the closest person was Wolfy with three four hundred

1322
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:10,280
and eight.

1323
01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:11,960
Speaker 4: Was I still?

1324
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:12,360
Speaker 5: Was?

1325
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 4: I still fourth? Even?

1326
01:01:13,639 --> 01:01:15,559
Speaker 5: Yes? You were? You and I Tim were down in

1327
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:22,079
the two thousand range. So he doubled your score, he

1328
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:25,679
almost doubled mine. They Zach did a good job on

1329
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:29,960
picking his people this week here this year. Yeah, so

1330
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:32,360
way go you will do? What do you set up

1331
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,880
another one for All Stars five?

1332
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:37,639
Speaker 3: But what does what does Zach have for the Host League?

1333
01:01:37,679 --> 01:01:39,800
Or did he stop tabulating it?

1334
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:44,679
Speaker 6: I stopped tagling because we started using the online one

1335
01:01:44,719 --> 01:01:47,159
and it wasn't even close. I was like, yeah, there's

1336
01:01:47,199 --> 01:01:49,840
no one coming back apparently with the online one with

1337
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:51,639
the drama points, you guys might have a chance to

1338
01:01:51,639 --> 01:01:54,159
come back ammy giving him half my team.

1339
01:01:54,599 --> 01:01:55,480
Speaker 5: No even there.

1340
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 4: I think the weekly ones are more fun. I don't know,

1341
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:00,840
there's too much luck involving just guess randomly the front,

1342
01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,159
you know what I mean, Like I get the point

1343
01:02:02,159 --> 01:02:06,159
of it. But yeahbody that's desperately in fourth both times

1344
01:02:06,599 --> 01:02:07,719
not into this one.

1345
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 5: So really quickly for the weekly one four All Stars five,

1346
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:16,519
I also played in the one that, like the the

1347
01:02:16,639 --> 01:02:20,239
one that the creator the site put together, and he

1348
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:24,519
set it up so that once they got down to

1349
01:02:24,679 --> 01:02:27,599
like half of the contestants were gone, then he changed

1350
01:02:27,639 --> 01:02:29,639
it from five picks a week down to four picks

1351
01:02:29,679 --> 01:02:32,199
a week, or sorry, from four picks a week down

1352
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:36,639
to five to four, and then once it got down

1353
01:02:36,639 --> 01:02:41,599
to fifteen contestants left, he went four to three. So

1354
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:46,440
if we do this weekly pick thing again for All Stars,

1355
01:02:47,199 --> 01:02:51,000
do we want to potentially do that or just kind

1356
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,880
of give everybody Let's take.

1357
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:55,679
Speaker 4: That off line, let's figure that out. Let's figure that out.

1358
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,079
Speaker 6: And I know we talked about doing that this season.

1359
01:02:59,119 --> 01:03:01,599
I didn't love doing it, like mid season. I think

1360
01:03:01,599 --> 01:03:04,000
if we decide to ahead of time, like, hey, at

1361
01:03:04,079 --> 01:03:05,440
this point in time, we're going to do this, and

1362
01:03:05,559 --> 01:03:06,760
I'm more open to that.

1363
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,559
Speaker 4: Zach, I'm with you, man late. I mean, me and

1364
01:03:10,599 --> 01:03:12,239
Zac on the same boat, Like, tell us the rules

1365
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:15,559
ahead of time and we all will We're good otherwise

1366
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:18,480
otherwise we're gonna throw a fit. I know.

1367
01:03:20,519 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 5: I was trying. I was trying to benefit everybody. I

1368
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,599
was trying to benefit everybody.

1369
01:03:26,519 --> 01:03:27,880
Speaker 4: No, no, it did not, No, it did not.

1370
01:03:30,679 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 6: I mean Bestad Carlin apparently, yeah, cal benefit.

1371
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:36,519
Speaker 5: I mean it wouldn't matter either way.

1372
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 4: Apparently Carl who finished first place. Things, I would have

1373
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:40,599
finished more in first place. I had have been able

1374
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:43,800
to change the rules though. You know, Carl, everything that's

1375
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:44,559
wrong with America.

1376
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 5: Congratulations, help everybody out.

1377
01:03:48,519 --> 01:03:50,679
Speaker 4: You were trying to yourself.

1378
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:54,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, so listeners percolate on that. If you have big

1379
01:03:55,159 --> 01:03:58,480
thoughts one way or the other, let us know or

1380
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:01,280
in review that we can't but we can't read everybody.

1381
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:03,159
Speaker 3: Header challenge pot dot Com joined the Facebook group.

1382
01:04:03,159 --> 01:04:04,639
Speaker 2: You can also draw our patre on what do people

1383
01:04:04,639 --> 01:04:06,679
get when they joined a pay.

1384
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 4: Paid Thank you will be a great intro. Hey, guys,

1385
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,280
the LP is done. It is done. It is finished,

1386
01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,079
it is submitted to this Kunaki website for distribution. It

1387
01:04:15,159 --> 01:04:18,360
is ready to order. The problem is that this website

1388
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:21,079
is still backed up from holiday orders, so this record

1389
01:04:21,119 --> 01:04:23,800
that is supposed to cost thirty six dollars instead costs

1390
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,639
over fifty. So we just have to wait this out

1391
01:04:26,719 --> 01:04:30,239
until it's ready a week or two guys, So join

1392
01:04:30,280 --> 01:04:32,800
the Facebook group or Patreon and we'll let you know

1393
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:36,280
when things are ready to order. In the meantime, I

1394
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:37,920
can sound like a virtual link. You can listen to

1395
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:40,800
it and look at the awesome album artwork. It's great

1396
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:42,480
and I got it done before the end of the season,

1397
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:43,840
so pat myself on the back.

1398
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,159
Speaker 5: Well, thanks for putting that together.

1399
01:04:46,199 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 4: Tim, Yeah, welcome. Also for five bucks you get access

1400
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,480
to the discord which willfe checks once every month, Carlon

1401
01:04:51,559 --> 01:04:54,519
checks it once every year. And also we say your name,

1402
01:04:54,599 --> 01:04:57,679
So thank you to Peter, Emily, Steven, Jamie, Gretchen, Eduardo

1403
01:04:57,760 --> 01:05:01,320
Smile and Jack, Maverick, Samuel, Elena, Cindy Shack, Stan Uh

1404
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:06,000
Sayer up, my girlfriend, Emily, Jacqueline, Jamie, Julie and Shake

1405
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:09,840
Our Christopher Rowland, Ryan Jean Or, Patty, Caroline, Alvin Scott

1406
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:16,719
and Greg Thank you, everybody. You're nobody's nobody's helping me

1407
01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:19,719
out with that. Thanks She's long long break, All right,

1408
01:05:20,159 --> 01:05:20,559
that's it.

1409
01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:23,360
Speaker 5: You keep our lights on.

1410
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 3: How to review places. I don't know who cares.

1411
01:05:28,719 --> 01:05:31,199
Speaker 4: Oh, but we did get those emails? Are the voicemails

1412
01:05:31,239 --> 01:05:33,039
that he told me to listen to that I said

1413
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:34,960
we played and then it turns out we didn't play them,

1414
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,199
but they ended up on the record. So to that

1415
01:05:37,280 --> 01:05:39,760
listener that wondered why we didn't play her voicemails, they

1416
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:40,400
are on the record.

1417
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 3: Yay.

1418
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: I forget what her name was.

1419
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: Uh, I don't know.

1420
01:05:47,239 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 4: It's all right, Well on the record, world.

1421
01:05:51,559 --> 01:05:52,079
Speaker 3: We don't know.

1422
01:05:52,159 --> 01:05:55,519
Speaker 2: We don't understand how stuff works. I'm playing on going

1423
01:05:55,559 --> 01:05:57,119
back to my space in.

1424
01:05:57,079 --> 01:05:57,639
Speaker 4: A long season?

1425
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:59,679
Speaker 5: Is my space even still around?

1426
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 3: It's around?

1427
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 5: God, can you imagine if my space takes off again?

1428
01:06:05,719 --> 01:06:11,719
Speaker 6: Oh it's got too man, you guys would all be

1429
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:12,360
in my copy.

1430
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 5: I feel like this is an after show because I

1431
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:20,440
feel like this is going to evolve real fast.

1432
01:06:18,280 --> 01:06:24,159
Speaker 2: Oh no, I just do do we have any social

1433
01:06:24,159 --> 01:06:25,400
media stuff you want to talk about?

1434
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:28,360
Speaker 6: Zay? We do have a few things. I have some

1435
01:06:28,480 --> 01:06:31,679
news that I think we'll get Tim and Wilfe excited

1436
01:06:33,199 --> 01:06:38,119
if you believe them. Dovemo has confirmed that in February

1437
01:06:38,119 --> 01:06:41,079
we will have the finalized list for season forty one

1438
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:42,400
to go film.

1439
01:06:42,639 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 4: Yep, we'll see, we'll see. I remain skeptical.

1440
01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:49,199
Speaker 3: I'm not excited.

1441
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,639
Speaker 6: I mean, I mean, because I know how much you

1442
01:06:52,679 --> 01:06:55,480
love these seasons, and.

1443
01:06:55,760 --> 01:06:58,480
Speaker 3: So we can stop this podcast, stop the insanity.

1444
01:07:00,679 --> 01:07:02,559
Speaker 4: I've come around on this. I was in Wolfred's place

1445
01:07:02,599 --> 01:07:04,360
like a year and Afrigo, I feel like I moved

1446
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,719
past it. I want the challenge to continue forever. But

1447
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,079
I do think it's over. I think it's over. I do,

1448
01:07:10,199 --> 01:07:11,280
I really do. I think it's over.

1449
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,079
Speaker 6: I mean, dous Bow has a hissy of being very accurate.

1450
01:07:15,199 --> 01:07:18,039
So if they're saying, like, hey, there's already been confirmation

1451
01:07:18,119 --> 01:07:21,039
that final calls will be made in February, I feel

1452
01:07:21,039 --> 01:07:23,480
like they've been accurate in the past. Why doubt them now?

1453
01:07:24,679 --> 01:07:28,599
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why I doubt them now. There's all

1454
01:07:28,599 --> 01:07:30,800
this shit right with MTV. It's like being sold off.

1455
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,800
It's like things are happening. There's newspaper, there's articles all

1456
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:36,440
the time, but this new company that's like whatever doing

1457
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,239
all this stuff. Paramounts is also a Paramount plus is

1458
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:41,719
obviously like not doing well, and now they've just moved

1459
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:44,719
All Stars five from Paramount to MTV, and I think

1460
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,840
it's to purge all this content to get it new

1461
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:49,960
so that they can sell it without like a backlog

1462
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:52,639
of shit. At least that's what I've read. So I

1463
01:07:52,679 --> 01:07:54,320
don't know. So whoever buys it, it's just going to

1464
01:07:54,400 --> 01:07:56,239
really depend on whether they see this show is profitable

1465
01:07:56,320 --> 01:07:59,039
or not. And a show that has been like the

1466
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:03,920
World Championship canceled, CBS version, canceled, the international versions, canceled

1467
01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:07,079
MTV version, like not doing so hot. I don't know.

1468
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:09,280
A new investor I think might just be like, at

1469
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,440
we're done, but we'll see.

1470
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:14,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I feel like they did a good job

1471
01:08:14,679 --> 01:08:17,800
of like bringing forty around and they'd finish on a

1472
01:08:17,840 --> 01:08:21,520
somewhat high note lake, which I mean, we all did

1473
01:08:21,800 --> 01:08:22,159
shows do.

1474
01:08:22,279 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 6: But we did see at the end of this episode

1475
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,960
that Jordan has confirmed he's gonna be here for season fifty,

1476
01:08:27,079 --> 01:08:28,600
so we've got at least done more to go.

1477
01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,039
Speaker 4: I hope that this is right, but I mean, I

1478
01:08:32,239 --> 01:08:33,520
don't know. I don't I don't have a lot of

1479
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:34,720
faith right now to be honest.

1480
01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:39,680
Speaker 6: Yes, for any of us who our listeners enjoyed international

1481
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:43,680
reality shows, They've announced the cast of Love Island UK

1482
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:47,560
All Stars, which features a Cheap Time Challenge champion Calve,

1483
01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:52,359
Gabby from Double Agents, and Curtis who was on the

1484
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,319
Challenge UK. For anyone that watched that one.

1485
01:08:55,159 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 5: None of us don't remember any of these people.

1486
01:08:57,640 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 6: You're married, cav she want to want to?

1487
01:09:00,119 --> 01:09:00,399
Speaker 5: Yes?

1488
01:09:01,359 --> 01:09:05,520
Speaker 4: Sorry I misheard you didn't Gabby hook up with just

1489
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:12,560
like the blonde check? Yes, German the mole.

1490
01:09:12,039 --> 01:09:15,920
Speaker 6: No, that's uh came her name. That's a different girl.

1491
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, people too many new people over the

1492
01:09:20,720 --> 01:09:21,840
past couple of seasons.

1493
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:30,159
Speaker 4: Definitely, uh, Corey yesterday Colleen Colleen.

1494
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,319
Speaker 5: Was the German girl.

1495
01:09:32,439 --> 01:09:35,680
Speaker 6: Corey posted that uh yesterday he had surgery on his

1496
01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:39,560
a c L from when he tore facing josh An elimination.

1497
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:45,880
So thoughts and prayers to Corey that he rehabs and

1498
01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:50,560
uh we have we have an update on uh the

1499
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,399
Top ten money leaderboard following the season.

1500
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:55,359
Speaker 5: Meltdown.

1501
01:09:56,600 --> 01:10:03,279
Speaker 6: No, I mean CC's melting dumb for like the last month.

1502
01:10:04,319 --> 01:10:07,960
But but Jordan has jumped from third to first with

1503
01:10:08,079 --> 01:10:09,239
the most money won.

1504
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:10,399
Speaker 5: All right.

1505
01:10:12,319 --> 01:10:14,399
Speaker 4: One point four million, right.

1506
01:10:15,199 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, he is a one point five million now.

1507
01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 4: One point five across all of his wins.

1508
01:10:20,079 --> 01:10:20,279
Speaker 6: Yep.

1509
01:10:21,399 --> 01:10:24,319
Speaker 5: And he's going to keep coming back until season fifty.

1510
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,720
Speaker 6: And Jenny jumps up into number six all time.

1511
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 4: Yeap, Banana's lost. Bananas was number three and now he's

1512
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,640
number He was number two and now he's number three.

1513
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:35,680
Right yeah.

1514
01:10:35,880 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 6: CT was number one and now CT's number two.

1515
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, all right.

1516
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,560
Speaker 4: And and in in light of Jordan's last win here,

1517
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:47,239
if we're going to revisit the goat conversation, I think

1518
01:10:47,279 --> 01:10:51,880
it's Jordan, Like I just think, like there's no debate anymore, right,

1519
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,000
It's it's it's Jordan.

1520
01:10:54,199 --> 01:10:55,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I think they're still debate to me.

1521
01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:57,079
Speaker 5: Of course you do.

1522
01:10:57,680 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 3: I do.

1523
01:11:00,399 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 5: No, one hundred percent at Jordan, because there's no way

1524
01:11:03,039 --> 01:11:04,439
in hell Johnny could do all this ship with just

1525
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:04,880
one hand.

1526
01:11:05,560 --> 01:11:05,640
Speaker 6: No.

1527
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 4: And Bena says it's it's all about the number of wins.

1528
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,760
I disagree. I think that that's not about that, And uh.

1529
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 6: I think I think it might not always help people.

1530
01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,359
Look at like Tom Brady in the NFL, people don't

1531
01:11:18,399 --> 01:11:21,119
know how many career passing yards you have, how many

1532
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:23,680
individual games you want all that they know is he's

1533
01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:26,159
the best. Why because of how many super Bowls you won?

1534
01:11:28,199 --> 01:11:35,840
How many championships? Yes, well he wants to Banana.

1535
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that Bananza's wins are as impressive.

1536
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:45,359
I think I think Jordan. Yeah, I think Jordan's the goat. Really,

1537
01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,800
I think it's either him or CT and then, uh,

1538
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,479
I don't Bananza is up there. He's up there, but

1539
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:52,880
he's not He's not number well.

1540
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,119
Speaker 5: Yeah, not denying that Bananas is good at this game.

1541
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:59,680
I have never denied that. But Jordan is one the

1542
01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:00,640
goat of this show.

1543
01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,640
Speaker 2: And Chris points out Johnny's first four wins are bullshit

1544
01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:04,680
team wins.

1545
01:12:05,199 --> 01:12:05,520
Speaker 5: Truth.

1546
01:12:07,439 --> 01:12:11,520
Speaker 6: Okay, that doesn't matter. He's one team, individual and duos.

1547
01:12:12,199 --> 01:12:13,279
He's won every.

1548
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,199
Speaker 4: So is Jordan.

1549
01:12:15,399 --> 01:12:17,319
Speaker 5: Jordan won a team war.

1550
01:12:17,279 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 4: The world's too what you want to one of the

1551
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,279
excess right one and one of the rivals.

1552
01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:32,079
Speaker 6: That's right?

1553
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:37,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he won the chaz We were just talking about

1554
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:39,319
her kaz Ca.

1555
01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 6: Yeah, whatever, that's true. I'm selling the team Bananas. You

1556
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,560
know who else is this? Kylon So Kylon did say

1557
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:51,800
on his interview with Bananas, Bananas in his opinions to

1558
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,000
go until someone matches or surpasses wins.

1559
01:12:55,319 --> 01:12:57,399
Speaker 3: Scott also points out Jordan won a final with a

1560
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:58,000
broken leg.

1561
01:12:59,680 --> 01:13:02,119
Speaker 4: Dude, that dirty thirty final was pretty bad ass, And

1562
01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:03,560
how cool is it that he won the thirty and

1563
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:05,640
the forty final. I didn't put that together till just now.

1564
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:08,159
Speaker 6: That's kind of go oh, yeah, that's why he's coming

1565
01:13:08,199 --> 01:13:08,880
back for fifty.

1566
01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, how about that.

1567
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't think we've talked about it since we

1568
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:21,800
last recorded. But spoiler alert for anyone that's two weeks

1569
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:25,199
behind on this, but uh haw Savillains did end and

1570
01:13:25,520 --> 01:13:29,680
West came in second place. He came in, Yeah, second

1571
01:13:29,680 --> 01:13:31,239
place is a tie, and.

1572
01:13:31,079 --> 01:13:33,640
Speaker 5: Then like just ended. I thought that was like months ago.

1573
01:13:33,840 --> 01:13:35,680
Speaker 6: And they're like two weeks ago, but we haven't really

1574
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:40,359
podcasted since it ended. Yeah.

1575
01:13:40,359 --> 01:13:41,520
Speaker 4: I didn't watch any of that, but I know it

1576
01:13:41,560 --> 01:13:44,000
was sort of controversial and he maybe should have won

1577
01:13:44,039 --> 01:13:46,560
but didn't in a bitter jury type of situation. I

1578
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:47,680
don't know the details.

1579
01:13:48,119 --> 01:13:52,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, basically, he dominated the entire season. He came down

1580
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:56,119
to the end. It was like, you know, a tiede vote,

1581
01:13:56,319 --> 01:13:59,319
so the third place person, you know, because it was

1582
01:13:59,319 --> 01:14:02,199
a final three, they got to divide, you know. Uh

1583
01:14:02,520 --> 01:14:05,319
decide who won and break the tie. And he basically

1584
01:14:05,319 --> 01:14:08,479
told Wes like, get on your knees and beg to

1585
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,720
me and tell me that, like you are pathetic and horrible,

1586
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:13,159
and if you do that, I will give you the win.

1587
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:15,680
And West got down and begged and said I'm pathetic,

1588
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:18,439
and guys like, great, I'm still voting for the other person.

1589
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have no input because I didn't watch the thing. Yeah,

1590
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:30,159
I know that he was like justifying how he pleaded

1591
01:14:30,199 --> 01:14:35,720
and he was about to make a TV show and non.

1592
01:14:33,359 --> 01:14:38,359
Speaker 6: No, yeah, I mean we said afterwards he's like, yeah,

1593
01:14:38,359 --> 01:14:40,960
he's like, you know, I thought there's a good chance

1594
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:42,720
he went vote for me even if I did beg.

1595
01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,720
But you know he wasn't. He definitely wasn't good vote

1596
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:47,680
for me if I didn't. So I had nothing to

1597
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,159
lose at that point. It's worth the risk.

1598
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,199
Speaker 4: Yeah there.

1599
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,600
Speaker 6: So But yeah, now Bananas and West both second place

1600
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,720
on Hat Civillain. So, I guess who do we need

1601
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,399
Jordan's for season three? If Jordan can finally win it

1602
01:15:02,479 --> 01:15:03,800
for the challenge.

1603
01:15:04,359 --> 01:15:05,520
Speaker 4: I don't know if he would do well in a

1604
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:06,279
situation like that.

1605
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:14,319
Speaker 3: Jordan Jordan wants.

1606
01:15:14,039 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, Jordan Jordan doesn't want to be in a house

1607
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:19,960
where he's doing nothing. But yeah, Jordan, Jordan needs like

1608
01:15:20,079 --> 01:15:23,880
actual like games to play and their challenges to do.

1609
01:15:24,279 --> 01:15:26,880
And I don't feel like the villains would have the

1610
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:27,920
kind of things that he needs.

1611
01:15:28,359 --> 01:15:30,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean they do challenges. I mean it's definitely

1612
01:15:30,399 --> 01:15:32,840
not like running, you know, a two day marathon, but.

1613
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, yep, please, all right, hey everybody, thanks for joining

1614
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:45,680
us for season forty.

1615
01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:49,239
Speaker 3: Thank god it's finally fucking over. Uh, we'll be.

1616
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:52,000
Speaker 2: Back in a couple of weeks for All Stars five.

1617
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:54,920
That's the end of the challenge. That's the end of

1618
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:58,399
the challenge, challenge after we promise.

1619
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:00,279
Speaker 6: It's last.

1620
01:16:02,039 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 3: So I guess for this episode has been Brian Big Hooka, Sweet.

1621
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,279
Speaker 6: Teeth, Carlin san Diego, Lucky Bananas.

1622
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:13,880
Speaker 3: And is uh uh I don't know.

1623
01:16:14,000 --> 01:16:17,800
Speaker 2: T J said, Rachel, you came all the way from

1624
01:16:17,840 --> 01:16:26,760
third place to the first place because challenge is stupid.

1625
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:39,720
Speaker 8: Charlie's chie