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of the biggest news of the day as we get
into college football discussion. Right the college football world is
in a bit of a precarious situation. Earlier today, college
Football Playoff Management Committee had formally approved the return of
Utah athletic Director Mark Harlan to its selection committee and
named current committee member and Arkansas athletic director Hunter Eurocheck
it's new chair, the CFP announced earlier today.
Speaker 2: The move comes.
Speaker 1: Hours after Baylor's athletic director and Selection committee chair Mac
Rhodes took a leave of absence from his job for
personal reasons amid a university investigation. Baylor stated this, we
are deeply appreciative or sorry. The CFP committee, I believe
stated this, We are deeply appreciative of Mac rhodes leadership
in the service as chair of the College Football Playoff
Selection Committee the season. CFP Executive Director Rich Clark said
in the news release, Mac has informed of of his
decision to step down for personal reasons, and our thoughts
are with him and his family during this time where
police announce that Hunter your check will assume the role
of Selection Committee chair effective immediately. Hunter's experience, integrity, and
committed to the game make him exceptionally well suited to
lead the committee as it continues its important work throughout
the remainder of the season. And then Harlan Mark Harland,
the University of athletic director, previously served one year term
during the twenty twenty three season for the College Football
Playoff Committee. The CFP typically requires athletic directors on the
selection committee to be active sitting athletic directors. Because Rhodes
was the Big Twelve nomination, he was replaced by a
Big Twelve athletic director. The ten FBS commissioners and Notre
Dame Athletic Director Pete Beverquah unanimously agreed to the changes,
and I believe Brett yor Mark he put this out
as an official statement from the Big Twelve. Mark Harlin
is an excellent choice to serve as the Big Twelve
conference representative on the College Football Playoff Selection Committee. Mark's
previous experience on the committee will serve the interests of
all college football alongside the other committee members.
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Speaker 2: We got bread Day on the line. Brandon, how that Heck?
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Speaker 4: Awthor is doing?
Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 1: Your reaction to the news that Mark Harlin is a
part of the CFP committee as a BYU fan is
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a Cougar Sports insider, what do you got for me? I?
Speaker 4: I first I was like, oh, really, like, we gotta
get a Utah guy in there. But then I started
thinking about a little more. Obviously, there's all the jokes
to be said about how you know. I was excited
to be in the Big twelve, but today I'm not
the type of situation. But I think the good thing
is if he's got to if you want to elevate
Utah all, and I know there's not supposed to be
complict of interest level SIP things. He also has to
elevate BAU, So I don't think that there's any way
to make it a bad thing for us, And I
think having the representation from the Big twelve obviously is important.
So I don't know. I think it's probably a nothing
burger overall, truthfully, but it's probably gonna get obviously hype
up and down from UAU fans.
Speaker 1: So BUA fans don't like it one bit. Break Day,
I don't like it. No Magusta, they say, no me Gusta.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I understand why. Like again, my first reaction
was like, oh, well, of all the athletic directors in
the Big twelve conference, that's the one that hates the
Big twelve the most. So that's great for us. But
I really think overall it's not going to be a
super negative thing because if he does want to, you know,
promote the conference at all, he's got to promote us,
and he's going to promote us because we of the
situation we're in above Utah. So I thin't it'll end.
Speaker 2: Up in despite Yeah.
Speaker 1: So apparently just everybody knows mac Rhodes is under investigation
and he took a leave of absence due to this investigation.
It was a violation of the faith based university's policy,
so essentially the Baylor honor Code and practices. Baylor is
obviously declining comment as this involves a personal matter and
an ongoing investigation. So that's why Mark Harlan is now
the part of the committee chair. So it's not just
by you who have who have been impacted by honor
code violations. We have Baylor also that has been impacted
by honor code violations. Ours are just typically our student
athletes rather than the staff. I don't know which is
which one I'd rather have, though, I mean, I don't
know quite honestly.
Speaker 4: They probably would look much worse than the church in general.
Speaker 1: If there'd be a lot of people, there'd be a
lot of people that would be like.
Speaker 2: See, I told you, I told you they don't live
up to their standards. I told you they're evil, wicked, vile, perverse,
horrible people. They can't live.
Speaker 1: Up to it, you know, you know, you know it's funny,
like you know, you throw the stone and then you
look up and you put a mirror up, and you're like, wait,
didn't you have a coach that said some improper terminology
in front of a recruit. Didn't you have a coach
whose wife was indicted on like white collar crime.
Speaker 2: Didn't you have like I can go down the listen.
Speaker 5: I'm like, if that was BYU, if that was happening
at BYU, oh my, we would have ourselves so much hate,
so much Mitchell Solly Tribune would be having a heyday, right,
I mean Utah fans, anti Mormons, anti Byuers, they'd be
pilot on.
Speaker 2: See. I told you so.
Speaker 1: They're horrible, horrible people. But we're over like it's all right, hey,
you know you tell them it's great. Forgiveness is great.
You know, no one gets canceled, nobody gets canceled. Let's
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the reaction was sad, I I was okay,
I gotta went into the game always, we always talked
about this on the show with me is. I'm a
blue goggled guy, and so I knew I believe that
we could win or we were going to win. But
I also, you know, I knew the back of my head,
like and I just can't do to win this. But
that's okay, Like we're in a good spot. We put
ourselves in a great spot to be able to overcome that.
But the the way we lost is obviously a lot
harder to swallow. But I do think you look back
at there was some there was just a few plays
there that could have really changed the game. I don't
know that we win the game with them, but it
doesn't look as ugly as it did, just you know,
executing in a couple of places, both offense, defense, end
special teams. Obviously, I think the defense performed by far
the best. But I think it's gonna be a good
wake up call hopefully and the guys wake up from it.
And I think the chances of us meet matching back
up with them in the covert championship game, we're pretty high.
Whether we you know, whether we won that game or
lost that game, and so I think winning it the
or losing it the first time probably gives us a
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So but I think either way we went out, we're
in a spot where I would imagine we get a
bid to the playoffs even if we lose in the
Comfort Championship game, unless we get absolutely throttled again in
the Comfort Championship game. So I feel pretty confident.
Speaker 2: I love it always breaking the optimist.
Speaker 1: Uh, and then that's why I love talking to you,
braidon the Blue Goggle banter. The positivity keeps me on
the right track, and uh, you know keeps the the
the doubter or in me at bay. So, Braden, what
what from a personnel standpoint? From a schematic standpoint maybe
makes you optimistic? B YU is gonna beat TCU at home,
beat Cincinnati on the road, and win versus UCF at
home again.
Speaker 4: I think defensively, I'm I'm really, I'm Obviously, the last
time we played josh Ueber he made us look real bad.
But I think we're such a different team than we
were defensively back when we played, so I think the
defense will be able to hold them in check. And
then I think offensively, I'm pretty sure from some of
the stuff I've seen, they're they're really good rush defense,
which you know is a little nerve wrecking for us,
But I think if we can, if we can, like
max protext will really kill this against Tech and only
having three route concepts going, and I think we're not
gonna need that here, and I think there's gonna throw
the ball around and then hopefully we'll be able to
off of that have some quarterback run game and then
hopefully we can you know, get on the edges with
guys like I mean, if LJ is healthy, But he
looks healthy that first run of the game against Tech,
but then he looked like he got didn't feel very
great after that, so I'm a little worried about the
run game. I think with this defense will probably able
to run up better than we were against Texas Tech,
even without you know, LGB one. But I think offense,
we will be able to move the ball, especially for
the air.
Speaker 1: Love that very optimistic about what BYU can hopefully do
on the ground. Hopefully Lj's healthier, I know Bear will
be able to run the ball more effectively I think
at home than versus a top five defense.
Speaker 2: Uh and uh that.
Speaker 1: And and and being in on a way setting so
intrigued by that. I don't know if you heard the
news some of the red shirts that are coming down
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big TWEL championship game or a bowl game or bowl games.
It's Justin Kirkland e from Asiata. You know, two big
defensive players, right. Tommy Prash is also red shirt in
this year from uh you know, has been injured I
think with his hand.
Speaker 2: Justin Kirkland not divulged.
Speaker 1: And then Justin Tommy's is the lower extremity Your reaction
to some of the red shirts that the defense is
fielding right now?
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I had heard some rumors that Justin was
thinking about red shirting it and going that route, and
I think that's probably smart. It'll be good to have
him next year fully helping get a full year out him,
rather than getting kind of the half healthy version of
when we got I was actually really surprised that Ephraim
was never on the availability report that I remember. So
the fact that like it was because of an injury,
that's where they're going about it. It's kind of surprising
to me, just because I would have expected him to
be on the availability apart, but maybe he was hurt
just enough that he couldn't. It was him full sell
his full self, so they didn't play him. I always
wonder what was going on with him specifically, and.
Speaker 2: Then I knew.
Speaker 4: I figured that would happen with Tommy because of you know,
how long he's been out and what he means to
the program. So I think, I honestly think all three
of them is a good thing. And then hopefully that
all at a spot where they're healthy enough that come
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be able to utilize them. That's one of the things
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Speaker 1: Ronald the three man weaver, out of the four acquisitions
signees yesterday, who's your favorite and why he's with? The
big man will open shout with really high upside, great wingspan.
Speaker 2: Great athleticism. Uh, he could play the four, he could
play the five. He's got to have a stretch four.
Speaker 1: But like him a lattin ruker combo guard that can
play shoot. He may be a play the two through
the four by the time he's he's actually playing for
the Coups if he goes to if he's going to
be serving a mission.
Speaker 2: Abdullah Achmed g League, that's nice, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: A seven footer coming to to Brigham or kJ Perry,
number one juco player in the country, he's a point
guard with tremendous athleticism. Who's your favorite and why?
Speaker 2: For me?
Speaker 6: My I think the best is probably kJ Perry because
that's a that's a big position of need for b YU.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 6: I feel like going forward, my favorite is probably Dean
Rookert just because I've had I've had a chance to
call a few of his games, and he, like you said,
he's a very versatile player. He can he plays the
two through the four, tf you just because high school
basketball oftentimes you don't have a lot of tall guys.
He's one of the tallest on their team. He's been
asked to play almost every position at one point in
time or another, and he's done it really well. Like
he can shoot the three, he can go inside, he
can throw it down, he can do almost everything that
you ask him to, at least at the high school level.
I think it'll be a year or two of development,
but I think he's gonna be a really good player
for b YU.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say my favorite, you know, I'm kind
of with you, Like Dean Rukers, a local kid. The
best interview that we've had thus far, and all of
them have been ready. Every we've interview kJ Dean and Will.
I think I like Will the Basket, like Humble Hungry,
just to like, as far as likability is concerned, just
a very very likable guy.
Speaker 2: Bill has also overlooked.
Speaker 6: He's he's a very overlooked player, sure, and I think
he's better than people realize.
Speaker 1: Immediate impact, obviously, it's gonna be a du Lahmed and
uh in kJ Perry, right though, you have a Jucal
guy and a G League guy and they're coming in
and they got to compete. They gotta make an impact,
they gotta they gotta win immediately in the twenty twenty
six twenty twenty seven seasons. So from that perspective, I
would probably lean kJ Perry and uh and or Abdullah.
Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go.
Speaker 1: Actually, kJ Perry, I really really really enjoyed the conversation
with kJ. I loved his film, Uh Super Athletic and
he's an Arizona boy. Shout out to my easy boys
Valley the Sun Baby. U. kJ is very very good,
very nice and uh he he's also got a lot
of grit to him, a lot of I would say,
just competitive fire to him having to go through the
JUCO ranks.
Speaker 2: Juke My Juco guys, they know what it's like.
Speaker 1: It ain't easy coming out of the Juco ranks. Dogg
eat dog world, as they say, you gotta become a dog.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's how you get the dog tags. You get to
merit the dog dad. You gotta become a dog. All
these people out there wearing dog tags but ain't dogs.
They never earned that dog tag. You know, kJ, He's
a dog, no doubt about it. Ronalie three man Weaver.
What do you got from? Who's your favorite and why?
The best acquisition from that signing class this signing period.
Speaker 7: Look, i mean Ben Walter Clayton junior, what position did
he play?
Speaker 3: Guard?
Speaker 2: Point guard? He's cobo guard, but guard.
Speaker 7: Right right guard, scoring guard. Kay, he got drafted right
you judge?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: So well yeah, then it's kJ Perry like, Look, you
want to win national championships, you want to get to
that point, you need good guard play. You haven't had that. Look,
b YU has struggled in the past of getting good
point guards, losing out with Kevin Young. That's not gonna
happen anymore. I mean, and I'm just gonna say this,
Number one recruit in high school number one euro now
number one's you go. Brennan Dunson is a big part
of this. So as long as Brennan Dunson justin young
and you know you got John Lenehan on this staff.
To me, that's why I'm going with kJ Perry. Look,
I mean, this kid betted on himself.
Speaker 6: Ben.
Speaker 7: By the way, if you missed the interview, fantastic here,
you need to go download on the podcast. And we
had thirty minutes with him and it just went on
because of just his energy is great.
Speaker 3: He's a leader.
Speaker 7: When he speaks, he speaks like he's the future face,
the future guard of BYU's program.
Speaker 2: Ben.
Speaker 7: Like, if you lose Rob right next year, okay, that
guess what you stick kJ.
Speaker 3: Right in there? No problem?
Speaker 7: Like if kJ would have went to college, he'd have
had an opportunity excuse me, not college. If he'd just
started off at a P four program, maybe he wouldn't
have played right away, but he would have worked this way.
But look, offers from Kansas. You beat out Kansas, been,
you beat out Organ, you beat out TCU. Like that
that has to mean something that has to matter. So
I mean this kid is he's a dynamic score.
Speaker 3: His bounce is ridiculous.
Speaker 7: Like John Morant ask, I mean, look, you've been waiting
on to get recruiting talent like this, players like this
for a while. So I'm gonna go with the kid
that if you put the ball in his hands and
change the game to take over a game. You saw it,
Rob Wright did Granny It was delaware. But that's what
that type of high level talent's able to do. You
haven't seen that yet in a while at BYU. So
give me kJ Perry, not just as a favorite, but
I think it is the best prospect I think that
could come out of this out of all of the
other prospects that they have that they signed yesterday.
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to know Follotel Southamaland number eleven. He's been balling shot
Colin for Brigham all season long. He's really made significant
strides and improvement and he's just scratching.
Speaker 2: The service per j Hill, the six foot four, two.
Speaker 1: Hundred and ten pound safety at a battleful Utah and
his production has been bountiful, bounteous. He's a true sophomore.
Parents are Louis and corn. Uncles played at Weaver State
under J Hill, so the the connection between Jay and
and the Satwalla family is long and is in depth.
Uncle Jeff Houltree played at BYU, so he's got some
Biddy Yu lineage as well as a legacy player.
Speaker 2: Enjoys playing basketball video games.
Speaker 1: He was a four star recruit per two four seven
sports with a composite score of ninety, rated the number
two overall recruit in the state of Utah by two
four seven. Played in the All American Bowl in San Antonio,
so that as a twenty twenty four Polynesian Bowl All
Star had any six tackles and six interceptions as a
senior in twenty twenty three, he was a fantastic football
play in high school. And he chose Bway over Utah, UCLA, Arizona,
Arizona State, Tennessee, USC, Vanderbilt, Washington State, Oregon State, Nevada,
and Utah State. So he caught up with the media
yesterday and he's been productive, by the way, extremely productive
this season. Just a well rounded player. Okay, he's I
don't know if he's leading the team in tackles.
Speaker 2: I think he is.
Speaker 1: Fifty nine total thirty fourth solo, twenty five assisted, six
and a half TFLs, one sack, two forced fumbles, two
pass breakups, two I INT's, four passes defended, and one
touchdown and a partridge and a paar tree.
Speaker 2: Let's get to know Folatow a little bit better.
Speaker 1: Volatow, how did the defense feel like it played against
Texas Tech.
Speaker 8: I feel like we had a good game, but we
could have played a lot better. You know, A big
thing Coachell says is, you know, we can win the
game on our own life. If they score zero points,
then then we should win every game obviously. So I think,
obviously there's a couple of short fields we were put in,
but we can't make excuses and not get out of them.
Speaker 2: How, don't know.
Speaker 8: I think we just got to play as a team
and trust our offense and then trust ourselves that we'll
get out of those and so letting up twenty nine
points obviously not great.
Speaker 2: Definitely could have played better.
Speaker 1: The mentality of Jay Hills like, just because the offense
and special teams didn't show up doesn't mean we can't
win this game by ourselves, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, that's what he just said, That's what Followtown just articulated.
The message from Jay is even when offense and special
teams doesn't do what they're supposed to do, if they
don't score any points, we're gonna win this game.
Speaker 2: We're gonna find a way to win this game.
Speaker 1: Will be that that that flag bearer, that leader of
this team, will be the tip of the spear and
our attacks in this grid iron warfare. So they did
a great job. I mean short, they played great, really well. Yeah,
shout out to the defense. Unfamiliar situation coming off a
loss for you guys. What's been the vibe in practice
followed out?
Speaker 8: I feel like this week's actually been really good. You know,
everyone's playing with a lot of energy. I kind of
feel like, not that we have something to prove, but
there's just so much.
Speaker 2: More that like we can play with and.
Speaker 8: We're just we're just loving, loving practice and making sure
that we're respecting the game and playing it the right way.
Speaker 2: So I think this week's been really good.
Speaker 1: Been playing better, been playing good on the prize, keeping
the main thing, the main thing. Also, as you look
towards TCU, they throw it a lot.
Speaker 2: What are you expecting from the horn Frogs.
Speaker 8: Yeah, their quarterback is he's a great ballplayer, and I
think we'll expect them to come out and throw the
ball a lot. But Scatchell has really put up some
good schemes for this weekend and I think that we
will play them really well. They got some good receivers,
a simple run game, but we got to.
Speaker 2: Stop the run. Game. Obviously, that's the first thing in
every game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, stop the run, make them one dimensional. Make
this quarterback Josh Hoover passed the ball sixty two, two
hundred pounds. He's a junior, played a lot of football
thus far this season, three hundred and thirty five attempts.
He's completed two hundred nineteen of those, twenty six hundred
and ninety yards through the year, sixty five point four
percent completion percentage, twenty three.
Speaker 2: Tds, eight iron t's, and he's been sacked twelve times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the pocket pocket quarterback wants to SLINGT number ten.
He's uh this this quarterback's number on his career. Pretty
good stats here too, career wise, and got early playing
time back in twenty twenty three. He's attempted over eleven
hundred passes, seven hundred and eighteen of those completed. He's
a career sixty five percent completion percentage quarterback.
Speaker 2: It's tremendous eight and forty seven yards. Okay, it's not bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean when you get into like he's gonna
get after the season, he's going to play another year.
Speaker 2: I imagine he's coming back. He's going to be a.
Speaker 1: Ten thousand yard quarterback. More often than not, when you're
a ten thousand yard quarterback, you are at worst an
undrafted free agent quarterback in the National Football League when
you produce that much eight yards per attempt, sixty five touchdowns,
twenty eight iron ts, and he's been sacked thirty six times.
So not much of a runner. Not much of a runner.
So that's that's the Hoover Josh Hoover, ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 2: So Ronnie, did you want to chime in on this
at all? You're whispering.
Speaker 3: I was looking at the stats.
Speaker 7: You know, he can throw the ball phenomenally, but when
I looked at his running stats and obviously count sacks
as towards your negative rushing yards in college, and he's
not proing to take off even if you go back
to the game two years ago in twenty twenty three,
he throws the football. He doesn't like to run a lot.
So if you're gonna have back to back weeks, and
this is goes back to what we said in the
first hour in ap and I we're talking about standing
in the pocket and.
Speaker 3: This game being at home.
Speaker 7: If BA used defense plays half of what it played
against Texas tech of replicates that been BWA I think
wins this game easily by two scores. Like I don't
think josh Uver can take four sacks in the first half.
Throw the ball like that and he's willing to air
it more than Baron Moore to not run and not
turn the ball over. Look, he turns it all over
a lot when he throws in there. He likes to
press and if you stop the TCU run, that's what happens.
So I think the keys to the game is be
extremely physical, get home, put pressure. Don't allow him to
run the ball, because josh Uver doesn't want to run.
He does want to get out of the pocket. He
wants to stand there and throw it. And that's just
gonna help b A use defense. I mean, look what
happened with Rocko Beeck when they did the same thing.
When you limit the run or do your best to
attempt that and say okay, we're gonna sit back and
let four rush three and then drop eight, it becomes
tough for the quarterback and it's gonna be a good
chance for the secondary to be able to pick off
this quarterback.
Speaker 6: I was gonna say something, b why you is starting
to rack up the sacks the last few weeks against
the non mobile quarterbacks. They got after Baron Morton a
few times. Early in that game against Sex to Take,
they got a few sacks that they got Carson Beck
and Carson Carson back's a bit mobile. He can run around,
but he's more of a thrower than a runner, and
they got after him a lot in that game. I
think this is an opportunity if BYU wants, if by
fans are calling for sacks. I think, Josh, I think
Hoover is a guy that you can get after, get.
Speaker 1: After the Hooverville. Let's get into number four. Do you
feel you're fully settled now? It's strong safety fallataw Yeah.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I understand the whole defense and I love playing
strong safety. And then every once in a while with
Raider in there, we'll kind of play sides in and
I'll be playing a little bit of free safety too.
So yeah, I'm liking.
Speaker 1: It, liking it, loving it. And he looks great in
the box, fantastic in the box. Have the coaches talked
about the history of b YU and TCU at all?
Speaker 8: I haven't heard anything about like too far back. The
only The only thing I've heard a lot about is
two years ago. You know, they got him pretty good,
and coach Will said that was probably one of the
worst game sees he's been in with being here at BYU.
But I think everyone has something to prove then, especially
the people who are here two years ago playing against them.
So I think our defense will will have a big
game this game.
Speaker 2: The history matters, no doubt. You gotta tell a story,
no doubt.
Speaker 1: Is the story more so for US media members and
fans or is it more so for the team.
Speaker 6: I think it's more for the media and the fans,
to be honest, Like, there's a lot of people who
tell me b YU and TCU used to really hate
each other, and it doesn't really feel like it anymore.
Like it feels like that's just kind of falling off
a bit. Like I don't the new generation of fans,
we don't really feel anything towards TCU. I know, I
know Ben does Ben Ben played them?
Speaker 2: You the Mormons, uh f the f.
Speaker 6: B y U.
Speaker 1: I've heard that there we got them, We beat you.
Speaker 6: Were the last team to beat TCU.
Speaker 1: They beat him in six seven, Baby beat him at
at at am g Carter six.
Speaker 6: But like for for me, the team, the story of
the team is focusing on, I think is getting back
on the right track.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 6: I don't know if they're necessarily like we hate TCU
or anything more than we want to beat TCU and
prove that we're still winning team.
Speaker 2: I agree with you wholeheartedly.
Speaker 1: So reflecting on the history of this, these two teams
in recent history, t T is on.
Speaker 2: A winning streak.
Speaker 1: Guys, it's a nice it's a nice winning streak at that. Uh,
since two thousand and five, TCU's six and two. Overall
it's five and seven, but TCU's on a five game
winning streak.
Speaker 2: Yeish is right.
Speaker 1: And none of these games have They've all been by
at best for b YU two score losses. The closest
was in twenty eleven, thirty eight, twenty eight in Texas.
All the other ones, uh, forty four to eleven, thirty
one to three, thirty eight to seven, thirty two to seven, Right,
like Andy Deltam you got after us? Yeah, yeah, after
he lost in seven, he's pretty mad, you know. Twenty
seven to twenty two had a b I had a
big PBu late in that game. He tried to attempt
a post is overthrown, and then he threw one to
the sideline to try to pick up a pertent, and
I got a PBu and I said.
Speaker 2: Sit, you're on the bench, Andy.
Speaker 1: And then I I think Brian Heel and David Nixon
finished off the final drive with multiple back toback sacks.
Speaker 2: It was glorious.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, you pretty pissed off after that. I mean redheads,
they get pissed off after losing. I mean they're fiery.
He took it out on us later. Yeah, no he did, no, Yeah,
with fervor and fire eight No. Nine were horrible, really
bad anyway, So the history does matter. It's crazy early
on though, nineteen eighty seven, they got the first win
in the in this head to head matchup, in this
big twelve rivalry. Now, h ninety eight, bo, you won
thirty one to eighteen. They had a three game they
we had a three game winning streak ninety six forty
five to twenty one, and then ninety seven thirty one
to ten. They got us in five. This one actually
should have gone our way. We got screwed. You guys
don't know about the five game. So number one, we
this was a shootout fifty one to fifty in provo.
Speaker 2: It was crazy.
Speaker 6: You're about to tell me that you gave a fifty
one points and you just to win this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy, I know, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1: So we had an issue with our our snapping, our
field our field goal long snapper.
Speaker 2: So we made a mistake.
Speaker 1: We missed a pat because of a botched pat, and
then what happened was TCU. Okay, I believe if I
if I recall correctly, I can't remember is the touchdown
or the extra point conversion or the two point conversion
or whatever. They fumbled at the goal line. But we
didn't have a pylon cam. We did not have. This
is the Mountain hole. We had no like they couldn't.
They didn't reverse it, but it's obvious if you go
back and look at it, it's it's.
Speaker 2: Obviously fumbled before.
Speaker 1: And then we recovered we won the game, and I believe,
if I'm not mistaken. We did receive an apology letter
from the Mountain West Conference officiating group saying, hey, we
got it wrong, but that doesn't matter anymore.
Speaker 2: They beat us fifty one to fifty. You know, a
little side rant here.
Speaker 6: How is it that twenty years after this game, twenty
twenty five, we still don't have pylon cams on games?
Speaker 2: I think I feel like it's so every game.
Speaker 1: We should have every Really, it's so basic that we
had it per game Bay.
Speaker 6: We should have pilon cams, like a camera down the
goal line every game and put a put a camera
on the sticks, get a get a first down line.
Speaker 2: Yeah, camera.
Speaker 6: I feel like that's just that's just such a simple
thing that can be done.
Speaker 1: By the way, in that game, John Beck threw for
five hundred and seventeen yards and five touchdowns. Todd Watkins
pulled in seven catches for one hundred and seventy six
yards and three touchdowns. He was getting behind so like
John Beck had a cannon, and why me cannon? I mean,
when you throw a football over sixty miles an hour,
you probably have a ninety mile an hour fastball, you
know what I mean? And Todd Watkins was one of
the fastest. He was actually going into the season. Per
Sports Illustrated, he was ranked the best deep threat in
college football, the best need to like you don't hear
about that from BYU, Like the best deep threat in
college football. Todd Watkins played on the same team growing up.
Is Alex Smith and Reggie.
Speaker 2: Bush in high school?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and he had to go to the Juco
Rock because they really didn't throw the ball a whole lot.
It's just like Alex running and Reggie running, he did.
I mean, so we went to Juco route and then
b way you picked him up. And it was a
fantastic acquisition from Gary Croton, really good recruiter and identifier
of talent. But anyway, look at those ridiculous numbers. We
should have won that game. We should have won that game.
I was red shirting that year. If we had the
current red shirt rules, I would have been playing in
the game, and I guarantee you I could have made
an impact. My uncle Rico coming out, I guarantee I
could have made an impact. I would have limited okay,
at least one big player, one scoring tight I'm tell you, like, look,
I know I'm a white walk on cornerback, right, You're
gonna say that, You're like Ben, No, you know, I'm
like bro I never got beat for touchdowns ever, and
so I would at least limited touchdowns. Okay, at least
you would have had that with me. Anyway, let's get
back to the sound little Uncle Rico moment for me
as I go with the two thousand and five the
way I did not plan this, by the way, this
is all tangent have. Yeah, we already went into the
history that this team in a similar situation. This is
in a similar situation to that of last year. What
lessons can you take from last year that can help
navigate this year?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think last year we kind of just got
a little complacent, obviously, which led to our losses, and
then once we did lose, I think we almost gave
it up a little bit last year. But I think
this year we understand and we've been through it and
some of those learning moments, so this year we're able
to go all the way and win out this year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's hope you's gotta win. Gotta win.
Speaker 1: Final thing here, how close do you and the team
pay attention to the college football rankings? Okay, we're having
a little techic to it. I don't think he's gonna say, oh,
not really like all of them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not really. Let me see him every once in
a while, and not really that's what you're gonna say.
It's the right answer.
Speaker 6: It's but I do have this little qualm okay with
players and coaches when we have do you guys do
you guys pay attention to Yes, they pay attention, but
they always say they don't. I'm like, just just be honest, say, hey,
it ticked us off a little bit that we dropped
five spots.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's see what he said that we
both guessed, like I kind of sort of it's gonna
be a kind of sort of not really, Let's see
what he says.
Speaker 2: Not too much.
Speaker 8: I think coach always tells us just like blackout the
outside noise.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: Actually, Coach Pop walking.
Speaker 8: In the locker room the other day it was playing
on our TV, sorry, putting on our TV, and me said,
it doesn't matter until the end of the month. You know,
whoever comes out on top of the end of the
month is what it's gonna be. So right now, it really.
Speaker 2: Has no effect on us.
Speaker 6: Like I said, you're telling me it's playing on the TV,
but you're not paying attention to it. Like, like, just
just beyond tell us, tell us that you're mad that
you dropped five spots, and then go prove it on Saturday.
Speaker 2: We're pissed off.
Speaker 3: This is when gets funny. It's like, oh, we're not watching.
Speaker 7: It's like okay, well then it's like, were you watching
the Iowa State Canastay game.
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, we were watching. It's like, yes, you're
they're watching. They're watching.
Speaker 7: There's you can't say that you're not watching your human
You get tagged doing stuff just like that.
Speaker 3: Look I get access.
Speaker 7: To you know, what is the ESP and the fan Twitter,
Like I get the tags on my phone and on
my laptop. Don't act like you don't see it like
they do been It's just like interesting. I just wrapped
them straight up beyond honest.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we see it. We're gonna go win Saturday. Then
do it and then it backs up.
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Speaker 1: All Right, a couple of things here, insider report wise,
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BYU and others that aren't respecting by You. Want to
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Crital Benjamin and it's ESPN College football analyst Greg McElroy
picking BYU over TC you. Okay, picking the Kugs to
get the dub. Okay, so we'll play that here momentarily
for you. There are still analysts out there that love
themselves some of the Cougars, and BYU is a slight
favorite here, and that's what the analysts are picking right now,
some of them at least as we get prepped for
this horn Frog Cougar matchup. All right, Greg, Nikelroy, you
got it. You got to dialed in. Okay, let's play
for all of kugarnation to behold.
Speaker 9: BYU's defense on the other side, very much a bend,
don't break unit. They're top eleven in the FBS and
red zone defense. Then they allow scores on just under
seventy three percent of the trips inside the twenty. They
allowed just two touchdowns on seven red zone trips last
week against Texas Tech. I'm taking BYU in this game.
I think TCU's lack of a rushing attack will bite
them here.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 9: And like Texas Tech, I think too often they'll set
for field goals when they get in the red zone
in set of scoring touchdowns. And they also think cold weather.
I think altitude.
Speaker 2: I think night.
Speaker 9: This is not just a great recipe for a really
successful passing game from the horn Frogs, and give me
the Cougars and lay the points.
Speaker 2: Taking the Cougs baby. Some at ESPN don't like the Cougs.
Speaker 1: Earlier this week, ESPN Rider College Football Insider did his
bottom ten rankings mister McGee and took a shot at
the Book of Mormon in Joseph Smith.
Speaker 2: He thought it was funny.
Speaker 1: Cougarnation did not like it, and other advocates came into
the corner of of for BYU and BYU fans.
Speaker 2: For those that missed it, this is what he said.
He ranked b YU fifth.
Speaker 1: He called it by who and and so in doing
our due diligence, bred always bringing the hammer. He's uh,
he's monitoring this this this bottom ten list. There there's
always the middle slot that is typically a higher ranked
team that lost that doesn't deserve maybe to be in
the top ten, as they may they may a pine
and that's where BYU ended up. Okay, So every single
week the bottom ten lists their number five in the
bottom ten as one of these highly ranked.
Speaker 2: Teams, and ba, you got that slot. But I didn't
have any problem with that. It is what it is.
You lost to Texas Tech. It wasn't pretty.
Speaker 1: But then he says, legend has it is, mister McGee
that after the angelral Run I showed Joseph Smith to
going plates upon which the Mormon Church was founded. He
also warns you, a Smith, to make sure to heed
the oft forgotten inscription located on this on the scratched
up backside of the plates. Beware the coveted fifth spot
lest it bites you in the behind.
Speaker 2: It love it. So I didn't understand the joke.
Speaker 1: I don't think I personally don't think he's like taking
a shot at the LDS faith. I just think he's
he's making it. That's more of an inside joke. And
and then he went on to say essentially like, well,
my dad used to say something about the.
Speaker 2: The eleventh Commandment, and he talked about that, and in
a follow up tweet anyway, he.
Speaker 1: In a nice, quiet manner, went back to the article.
I don't know if you guys saw this or not,
and he changed it. The article has changed, so there
was enough backlash that he changed it.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Look, I am of the opinion that we should not
be female female canines and complain about every little thing
that being said.
Speaker 2: You know, our religion is dear to us.
Speaker 1: Our religion is something that we take a lot of
pride in the fruits of the faith, and it's sacred
and we don't like to get poke fun at and
and quite honestly, over the years, it's been completely kosher, completely.
Speaker 2: Approved publicly to poke.
Speaker 1: Fun, degradate and dunk on the church, just Christ, a
lot of saints, some moans.
Speaker 2: It's been completely like fair to do that.
Speaker 1: And now it's kind of switching up, like, hey, maybe
we shouldn't be doing this, maybe shouldn't be poken. I
don't think the original joke was funny, nor do I
think it was necessarily like making fun of us, but
he was just he was trying to be funny in
his own inside joke, Ryan McGee was anyway new and revised.
He said, bottom ten is up. Apologies for earlier in sensitivities.
Certainly wasn't my intent, and I don't think it was
an intent. I think he was just trying to make
me funny.
Speaker 2: I think he thinks he was funnier than he was. Yeah,
it's his own thing.
Speaker 1: People right all the time in columns and opinions, and
you can disagree with what they say, and everyone's going
to disagree with humor what ap thinks is funny. I
might not think it's funny, but I think it's funny.
Like sometimes I make jokes and I'm like, that's funny,
and these guys are looking at me like you're an imbectory,
like that's not funny, Ben, You're not funny, And I'm like, dude,
that was great.
Speaker 2: That hits, That hits. Brett's shaking his head like I
don't understand what it means.
Speaker 6: I've never had a joke that didn't land.
Speaker 1: Vick is over there like, oh gosh, what did I
get myself into? And Ronald's over there just like you don't.
I wish I had a dumb button. Right, it's Okay,
it's okay to miss on jokes, but he says, certainly
wasn't my intent. I don't think his intent was to
to necessarily poke fun and mock the churches. Christ writer says,
but b Yu is still in the coveted fifth spot.
Ill advised jokes can be deleted, ill advised game plans, Canna,
I think he's having a fun.
Speaker 2: Time with it. Look, have you ever watched the have
you ever watched South Park?
Speaker 6: I've seen clips.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's really inappropriately. I'm never if you are a
child listening to the show, do as I say, not
as I do. Do not watch South Park. But the
adults you can watch, like the there's a there's a
number of Book of Mormon. There's a Joseph Smith like
episodes one of them all the all the people are
in Hell and Satan comes up and he's like he's like,
welcome to you know, eternal donation and hell.
Speaker 10: Right, And I was like, wait a second, I was
a good Christian, I was a good Lutheran. I was
a good to post and like, no, sorry, that was wrong,
Like that was the wrong church. And then they're like, well,
who was the right faith?
Speaker 1: It was the moments, the moments of the so like
they're giving you some love and then they're on the
on the other side South Park. We'll also have a
Joseph Smith story and the song that's that's kind of
underlaid on it is Joseph went to It's got the
plate dumb dumb, dumb, dum dumb.
Speaker 2: It's called like that that.
Speaker 1: It's all dumb, it's all fake, it's all fictations. They're
making fun of you in a funny way. Anyway, Look,
if someone is openly and aggressively mocking our faith, you
should defend it. We got to defend the faith. Like
this one, I think there's a bit of an overreaction
to it. Like I don't think I think it was
pretty docile. My personal opinion is pretty docile.
Speaker 6: My take, My take is credit to him for going
in and changing it when.
Speaker 2: His follow up joke was much better.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's right, But credit to him for going and
changing I think he I think he missed on on
the joke.
Speaker 1: The joke was an inside joke. No one's gonna get
your inside joke. That was the biggest issue. He took
a Bible like experience with his dad and then turned
it into a book of Mormon fictitious.
Speaker 6: I personally didn't get worked up about it when I
was seeing it online. But I think where people are
is that they don't want national media to be widely
making fun of the church, and I think that's where
it was coming from. And yeah, I just think he
thought it was funnier than it really was, to be honest,
And I just want to give him credit for going
out and changing it when when he realized that he
hurt some feelings, he went and changed it. Indeed, I
don't think he meant to be incredibly rude or anything.
Speaker 2: Well, was it rude? I don't know. I think it's
just that's the reaction he got, was that is it
rude to like?
Speaker 1: Legend has it that after the Angel Moroni showed Joseph
Smith the golden plates upon which I mean it's falls
and so if someone reading that would be like, huh,
Like most people were like did that really happen?
Speaker 2: Which the Mormon Church was founded.
Speaker 1: He also warned Smith to make sure to heed the
oft forgotten inscription located on the scratched up backside of
the plates, Beware the coveted fifth.
Speaker 2: Spot, referring to the fifth spot of the list. That
is always.
Speaker 1: The highly ranked team that lost or did not performed
well and the Covenant fifth spot lest it bites you
in the behind and lobb it.
Speaker 7: And I think it's maybe to the religion, like the church,
like the religion, but like for you myself and Andrew
in individualensive about him, what it is making light well,
I mean, I mean I'm saying that in the terms
of like freedom of religion, the country, the religion itself,
but for us, no, like for me, when I read that,
I'm like, well, I'm not really offended by this, Like
I'm not gonna lose my collection.
Speaker 1: When God talked to Moses in the burning bush like
it's his own insight jokes.
Speaker 2: You know that.
Speaker 7: I wouldn't have got mad at that one. I'd be like,
that's a bad joke. I wouldn't do that, but like
that's about I wouldn't take offense to that.
Speaker 2: I think we're a little overly sensitive.
Speaker 3: I agree.
Speaker 6: I just think that it's a it's been building up
for a while where like you know, you get that
we're standing up for ourselves. We've started standing up for
ourselves ourselves.
Speaker 2: Always do it. Now you will not desecrate our sacred faith.
Speaker 1: That brings us so much happiness and joy, like but
we're happy, like you could, Like, I mean, I've been
hearing it for like a long time high school. I
remember having a debate with an evangelical Christian that was
on my football.
Speaker 2: Team, and you know what I mean, Like I've heard
it all. You know what I mean, I'm de sensitized.
I'll stand up.
Speaker 1: But like I don't think that was I think that
was very docile. I think that was very uh, this
is minor.
Speaker 7: But everybody's I understand how everybody's feeling that way been
Like you said that the Mormon chance. I mean you
literally had the Texas Tech men's basketball coach say don't
do this, and the crowd was like booing him, like
mixed roars, like because people want to say those like
nasty things like to us of the faith and what.
Speaker 3: Happened with the people in Michigan. So people are tired
of it, rightfully.
Speaker 7: So, but like this is one of those where it's like, nah,
you can't really lose sleep about this is not the
big video. It's a terrible joke, inside joke. Don't do that,
as someone that says inside jokes and says things that
people understand having eighty ah D. When you put that
pin to paper and put it out for everybody to see,
you failed on it.
Speaker 3: So shout it. And I want to give him break, absolutely.
Speaker 2: If it's inside joke.
Speaker 3: Exactly. Yeah, but give him grace. He changed it been
Let's let's focus on the positive.
Speaker 7: He changed it, and not a lot of people will
go back and correct their mistakes, will shout out to
him for correcting it.
Speaker 6: So a lot of the time they'll just block everyone.
Speaker 3: So yeah, they'll they'll be a you know, dismissive.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to him for For Drake Tol said,
I didn't go to the AU. I'm not a member
of the church. He descriptions with oy saints and I'm
no expert on the topic. But here's what bothers me. No,
no one references the Bible, the Torah or the Koran
with legend has it.
Speaker 2: That doesn't fly.
Speaker 1: Mocking faith is off limits, even for ESPN. Yeah, I mean, look,
there's plenty of people out there that think the Scripture's Bible,
the Torah, the Quran, it's all made up anyway, you know.
Speaker 2: But yeah, you don't want people like mocking it. Legend
has it. It's it's fake, you know, but you don't
have to believe it, I guess right.
Speaker 1: So anyway, all right, there you have it, A little
inside report for you, Ryan McGee retracting his inside.
Speaker 2: Show about the Book of Mormon inscription on the back
of it.
Speaker 1: All right, big o' tires in American Fork, guys, head
on over to Big old Tires in American Fork.
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