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<v Speaker 1>This is Hudson River Radio dot Com.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello out there in podcast land and beyond and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>out in space. Who knows. We've got a credible crew

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<v Speaker 2>out there right now. I'm Maxi margat Rubin along with

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<v Speaker 2>my co host Malcolm Berman. And this is the Many

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<v Speaker 2>Shades of Green, a program that adds a dash of

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<v Speaker 2>green into your life. As we engage in conversations that

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<v Speaker 2>move to inform, educate, activate, and raise your eco and

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<v Speaker 2>social consciousness through culture, politics, music, books, art, science, community,

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<v Speaker 2>we hope to inspire you to pick a shade of

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<v Speaker 2>green and become a steward of this beautiful, blue, green

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<v Speaker 2>planet we call Earth. So I'll start out in l a.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi Malcolm Land and Hi Gay, are you out? And

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<v Speaker 2>where the island you're in?

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<v Speaker 3>Are you in the island? Long Island? Long Island? Beautiful

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<v Speaker 3>Long Island.

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<v Speaker 2>Long Island. Hey has some pretty cool beaches over there. Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And we got Neil back there in studio and and

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<v Speaker 2>so welcome, Welcome.

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<v Speaker 4>We're going to do a direct hook up with the astronauts.

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<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't I wouldn't know what to do with myself

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<v Speaker 2>if that happened. Uh. Again, I am a space space

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<v Speaker 2>freaky space geeky whatever you want to call it.

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<v Speaker 4>Could you could you? Could you call control headquarters?

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<v Speaker 2>They were ready, he put he said, heave us the

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<v Speaker 2>thumbs up. We're gonna they're gonna patch us into uh

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<v Speaker 2>to the to the center that gives all that incredible

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<v Speaker 2>information all the Houston I think there and now that

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<v Speaker 2>that and also in space Cape Kennedy or Kennedy Space Center,

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<v Speaker 2>I should say, used to be Cape Canaveral anyway, So okay,

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<v Speaker 2>as you can tell, I'm infatuated with the moon dancing

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<v Speaker 2>in the moonlight by a group called top Loader, which

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<v Speaker 2>is very interesting because the orion is on the top

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<v Speaker 2>of the what was on top of the rocket. We

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<v Speaker 2>can play it.

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<v Speaker 4>We get it most gathering.

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<v Speaker 5>Wind Gilfain so that any fine here, it's out of shide.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't bar and there don't five day keep.

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<v Speaker 5>Their few stick, keep her tiring, every body, damn sound

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<v Speaker 5>in the mule live down slight ever fire.

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<v Speaker 6>Skill, let lod sup up fine out of side.

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<v Speaker 4>Their fines that sound. We like our fine and will

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<v Speaker 4>never fight.

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<v Speaker 2>You can down Sam stay. I'm tied at the super match.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll roll the bike.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever by.

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<v Speaker 2>There was dawn sound m the mule live.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, We're Dancing in the moonlight, And I had to

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<v Speaker 2>pick that song because even though it kind of has

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<v Speaker 2>a dark side of it, which I didn't realize until

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<v Speaker 2>this is it. The song has a natural vibe and

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of gentle, sunshiny kind of pop sound which

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<v Speaker 2>emphasizes a natural gathering of people enjoying life contrasted against

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<v Speaker 2>the unnatural, like supernatural delight of a perfect peaceful night.

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<v Speaker 2>The song was written in nineteen sixty nine. This cut

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<v Speaker 2>was from nineteen ninety nine two thousand by Top Loader

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<v Speaker 2>and it was by Herman Kelly, and the origin is

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<v Speaker 2>a bit dark because she was recovering from her personal trauma.

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<v Speaker 2>He was assaulted apparently, and he's trying to recover and

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<v Speaker 2>he was imagining better things during that recovery, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of has the uplifting parts to it with

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<v Speaker 2>something that is a little chaotic, which seems to be

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<v Speaker 2>what's happening now. We're looking for some joy and celebration

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<v Speaker 2>amidst we're living in chaos and we need some diversion

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<v Speaker 2>and we need joy, and right now, on our personal level,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm getting immense joy from the Lunar Mission Artemis two

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<v Speaker 2>and the amazing crew floating and working right now in

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<v Speaker 2>the Orian Capsule. Human kind of has always been fascinated

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<v Speaker 2>by the moon. The glow of a full moon brings

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<v Speaker 2>inner peace and beauty to the night sky as it

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<v Speaker 2>illuminates the dark. The historic diverse four astronaut team of

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<v Speaker 2>Artemis to includes Commander Reid Wiseman, who's been on many missions,

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<v Speaker 2>Pilot Victor Glover, who's I think the only I have

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<v Speaker 2>to check that person of color to go on a

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<v Speaker 2>Moon trip. There we have mission specialists Christina Cook, she's

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<v Speaker 2>the first women woman to go to to the to

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<v Speaker 2>the Moon, and Jeremy Hansen is the first Canadian to

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<v Speaker 2>take a trip. So we have some international things going uh.

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<v Speaker 2>The crew has made history as being the first units

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<v Speaker 2>to have reached the furthest point away from Earth as

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<v Speaker 2>they flew by the dark side of the Moon. The

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<v Speaker 2>mission has brought people together. It's bringing back science and

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<v Speaker 2>getting students interested in stem and steam. We need that

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<v Speaker 2>art party in there, which is important. It gives us

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<v Speaker 2>joy in these divided times and people are feeling some

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<v Speaker 2>positive energy. When I look online and I see the

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<v Speaker 2>artemist things that it's all positive and people have pride

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<v Speaker 2>in this artemist mission. Mankind wants to explore the galaxy

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<v Speaker 2>and is exciting to witness space travel. And while we

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<v Speaker 2>must band together to take action against the dismantling of

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<v Speaker 2>democracy before our eyes, we have to take a respite

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<v Speaker 2>from the calamity being brought currently. So you know, Gay

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<v Speaker 2>and I talked about this because we were bantering back

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<v Speaker 2>and forth, you know, with notes. But I came across

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you did too. Gay about Kelly Corrigan,

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<v Speaker 2>a New York Times writer, when she said that, so

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<v Speaker 2>what's the responsible citizen to do? How do you count

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<v Speaker 2>to balance the drain of constantly standing guard? And she

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<v Speaker 2>said the answer is simple. Seek moments of wonder in

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<v Speaker 2>your everyday life. Awe inspired by nature, art where the

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<v Speaker 2>feats of a man is justified. And this is a

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<v Speaker 2>feat of man, this this Artemis project. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>reach a mon moment of joy during the as I said,

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<v Speaker 2>this chaos, Perhaps we all need to meditate, look for

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<v Speaker 2>joy and find the common storm, which recently a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months ago, the Boost monks who walked that twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three hundred miles for peace have done and we had

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<v Speaker 2>the Winter Olympics these amazing athletes, and now we have

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<v Speaker 2>Artemis two crew who are up in space and they're

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<v Speaker 2>on their way back now to Earth, and it's just

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<v Speaker 2>amazing that they saw the dark side of the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>I was going to play Pink Floyd brain Damage, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just couldn't bring myself to it. I wanted something

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<v Speaker 2>a little more so Today anyway, we are joined by

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<v Speaker 2>Gay Paulasner to discuss what we can do in this

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<v Speaker 2>moment to be proactive and finding some joy amidst the chaos,

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<v Speaker 2>and how kindness and empathy can bring back morality. Hopefully,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk about all different things, you know, we'll see

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<v Speaker 2>where this all lands. Will also get a bit into

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<v Speaker 2>her art and her books, uh and a lot more.

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<v Speaker 2>Gay is the author of young adult and adult novels.

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<v Speaker 2>She's also a family law attorney and mediator. She co

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<v Speaker 2>authored a book with Nora Rawley Baskin and titled Consider

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<v Speaker 2>the Octopus. I love octopus or creatures that are amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's a that's something.

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<v Speaker 4>So what do you do in your spare time?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? Yeah, I don't know, she doesn't see. You're busy

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<v Speaker 2>in general with a lot of things. But this right

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<v Speaker 2>right anyway, The book is a heartfelt story about friendship

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<v Speaker 2>and an empowering call to environmental protection, especially to young

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<v Speaker 2>people who are already stepping up to help save our

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<v Speaker 2>oceans and our earth. So Gay, welcome to the Many

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<v Speaker 2>Shades of Green Again. You're a friend of the show

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<v Speaker 2>because you've been on and we have. Yes, she's family,

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<v Speaker 2>she's she's miss miss b we have she's she's cousins

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<v Speaker 2>to our monthly political guy. And believe me, he hit

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<v Speaker 2>that politics George Paulisner. He's out and he's out west now.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I just want to do a quote from

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<v Speaker 2>one of the Artemis crew members, Victor Glover. He's the pilot,

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<v Speaker 2>and again I mentioned the first person of color on

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<v Speaker 2>a lunar mission, and I think some of this was

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<v Speaker 2>towards his wife, but also some of it was general

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<v Speaker 2>when he said, as we prepare to go out of

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<v Speaker 2>radio communication, which they did yesterday, we're still going to

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<v Speaker 2>feel your love from Earth and to all of you

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<v Speaker 2>down there on Earth and around Earth, we love you

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<v Speaker 2>from the moon. We will see you on the other side.

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<v Speaker 2>This crew has been incredible. This crew has made me cry.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're speaking. We wanted to hit on some Joy,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, I went to Apollo sixteen, and I

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<v Speaker 2>was at Apollo seventeen launch, which was the last lunar launch,

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<v Speaker 2>which I can't believe was fifty four years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>was only a baby, but but I went. I went

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<v Speaker 2>to the launches, and I've gone to Shuttle launches. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was at one of the Shuttle launches that took

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<v Speaker 2>off from from Kennedy Space Censor and landed at Edwards

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<v Speaker 2>and my brothers saw the landing in Edwards and I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the takeoff. So it was just really pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And so so we're coming, you know, from a crazy

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<v Speaker 2>point that doesn't seem to be. It's just spiraling constantly,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, And we're also kind of always asking ourselves

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<v Speaker 2>like who's going to save us? Like again, I just

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<v Speaker 2>wrote letters to my senators like who is going to

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<v Speaker 2>save us? Gay, Who's going to save us?

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<v Speaker 3>There is an unloaded question.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I just you know, and I said that

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<v Speaker 2>to Malcolm earlier today when we were in the phone.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Who's when is you know, how low is low?

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<v Speaker 2>And it just gets lower.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, I don't know if it's one of the astronauts,

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<v Speaker 7>I said it. They said, you know, looking on the Earth,

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<v Speaker 7>you know, looking at all the stars and everything around us,

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<v Speaker 7>and that we are there, as far as we know,

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<v Speaker 7>the only planet that has people, and we are in

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<v Speaker 7>a charge of the planet to keep it whole.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and we might be that we might be the

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<v Speaker 4>only planet you know that we know of.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're not. We're not that advanced to be transporting

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<v Speaker 2>ourselves to other galaxies star Trek. You know, I wish

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<v Speaker 2>we were, because I transport myself somewhere right now, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. But anyway, I mean, you know, there's

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<v Speaker 2>there's heroes, there's it seems to be more villains. Uh

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<v Speaker 2>so what what what say you on this any any

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>I want I mean, the first thing I want to

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<v Speaker 6>say is, you know, talking about transporting us. It was

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<v Speaker 6>really hard to get on this podcast today. It was

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<v Speaker 6>really hard to do anything today. I made a sign

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<v Speaker 6>and I'm going out in the streets by myself after this.

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<v Speaker 6>Hopefully some people will join me because I don't know

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<v Speaker 6>what to do. But one of the things we can do,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's something you know, you and I were talking

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<v Speaker 6>about on our own, is the simple things we can

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<v Speaker 6>do to survive. At this point, and man, you just

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<v Speaker 6>you just did one of them turn on music. It's incredible.

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<v Speaker 6>If you guys could have seen us on our little

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<v Speaker 6>zoom we're clean like that music comes on and you

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<v Speaker 6>go from complete despair to momentary lightness. And you and

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<v Speaker 6>I both have musicians, singer songwriters. Music is an important

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<v Speaker 6>part of our families. And I think about it all

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<v Speaker 6>the time for me personally, and I'm a writer, I'm

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<v Speaker 6>an artist. I think music is maybe the most life

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<v Speaker 6>saving form of art that is out there. And thank

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<v Speaker 6>goodness for the people who make it and who create

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<v Speaker 6>both intense activist songs that carry us through dark dark

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<v Speaker 6>times and also light songs that we can turn on

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<v Speaker 2>It's it's I know, I mean, your sons are musicians.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole family is basically you know, musicians and uh

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<v Speaker 2>in the Dancing is another form art form, whether it's

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<v Speaker 2>at a bar mitzvah, I don't know, but anyway, it's

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<v Speaker 2>very artistic and theater, and it's just the arts. That's

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<v Speaker 2>took this prodest this lunar, you know, mission to just

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<v Speaker 2>he literally, I don't know if you saw the clip,

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<v Speaker 2>actually played the clip too, but that just said it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, that just said it. But again it's the

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<v Speaker 2>the art part of you know, Stam. We need, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people becoming engineers and people scientists, you know, the unfortunately

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<v Speaker 2>they decimated, like all these departments, the Union of Concerned Scientists,

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<v Speaker 2>gone on the air because they're decimating the science population.

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<v Speaker 6>They might be, but this is happening now, So where

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<v Speaker 6>is this piece of hope coming from?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 6>Like, I was actually wondering that and I literally asked

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<v Speaker 6>see this decimation, We know there's a decimation, Yet somehow

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<v Speaker 6>in the middle of this decimation, this mission right was

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<v Speaker 3>Do we know how?

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<v Speaker 2>Like where?

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<v Speaker 6>Because if we know how, then that tell like it's

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<v Speaker 6>not a nebulous piece of hope. It's a serious, true, practical,

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<v Speaker 4>Well when did this mission? Starret? How long have they

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<v Speaker 2>Have they been planning this for years? I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like just just think of was it sixty one

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<v Speaker 2>And they went to the moon by the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the decade, they didn't have a computer as sophisticated as

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<v Speaker 2>my cell phone right here in my hand, which by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, is partially a product from NASA because it

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<v Speaker 2>has the worst pr And if you look at what

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<v Speaker 2>NASA has done in terms of inventions, medically and everything else,

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<v Speaker 2>I should have had to listen in front of me,

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<v Speaker 2>But they've done. You know, everyone's going, you're spending money, like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh what, I guess there's something going on in the

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<v Speaker 2>Middle East now for two billion dollars a day, this

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<v Speaker 2>project probably costs about four billion I think I don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the exact amount, but look what it's producing. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people, the humankind has this this quest to

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<v Speaker 2>part of that. I mean, we just would love to

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<v Speaker 2>be able to take you know, people up. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>the five minutes from these billionaires that send up and

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<v Speaker 2>you know that what is that. This is serious and going,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, going to the moon, hitting the dark side

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<v Speaker 2>of the moon, losing you know, communication for forty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>They go, they ask the guys, what did you do?

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<v Speaker 2>And and the Canadian guy brought some maple cookies from Canada,

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<v Speaker 2>they go, we ate the maple cookies.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, tell me, wasn't Jewish?

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I couldn't eat the cookies if he was well

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<v Speaker 4>pass over, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>I give him dispensation. If they are to eat whatever

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<v Speaker 2>they want. They they got, they got the rabbis going, no,

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<v Speaker 2>no problem. And then and then they had you know

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<v Speaker 2>the moment where they named crater uh so moving and

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<v Speaker 2>in tears and and and they and they hugged each other.

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<v Speaker 7>In a they've all been family for all these years

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<v Speaker 7>that they were working together. Yeah, in close contact. But

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<v Speaker 7>I have a question.

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<v Speaker 8>Uh uh.

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<v Speaker 7>The NASA has invented there's a lot of things that

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<v Speaker 7>you know is due to space space travel. But if

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<v Speaker 7>they took that money and they were working on those projects,

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<v Speaker 7>would they have come up with any solution any of

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<v Speaker 7>the products that they have now if they were working

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<v Speaker 7>in different areas, not necessarily going into the moon.

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<v Speaker 2>The project makes you, do you know it? When you

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<v Speaker 2>have something like this, the amount of people on it,

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<v Speaker 2>the amount of scientists, engineers, tech people, they're always inventing,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my uncle on the lunar module, which is up

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<v Speaker 2>there still because it stays there. The module goes off

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<v Speaker 2>with the lamb, the base stays on the moon. So

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<v Speaker 2>there's bases on the Moon from the modules from all

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<v Speaker 2>the previous you know, the Moon missions. And he developed

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<v Speaker 2>the bottom part of the lamb. It comes out and

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<v Speaker 2>it goes on and there's legs. There's legs. But they

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<v Speaker 2>needed to develop big pods on the bottom of those

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<v Speaker 2>legs for the landings, so it would be a soft

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<v Speaker 2>land it wouldn't be a hard landing. And he was

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<v Speaker 2>a sub contractor for Grumming and he worked on the

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<v Speaker 2>Apollo project. And the various engineers engraved on one of

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<v Speaker 2>the pods their names. Okay, so if this is true,

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<v Speaker 2>which I don't think, my uncle would lie, nor would

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<v Speaker 2>any of the engineers lie. I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>back in the day I was a little young there.

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<v Speaker 2>This is all true. My uncle's name is on the

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<v Speaker 2>moon read Uncle Duke, we called him. And so there's

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<v Speaker 2>like this science part of my family with the music

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<v Speaker 2>part of my family. So that's that's the theme. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's the theme. But anyway, it's you know the practicalness

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<v Speaker 2>of when you're working on projects like this, like the

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<v Speaker 2>problem that they had. The biggest problem they had was

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<v Speaker 2>the toilet on this mission so far, you know, things

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<v Speaker 2>simple like that. To me, I would have asked for

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<v Speaker 2>a Japanese engineer on that because they make the best

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<v Speaker 2>toilets in the world. It's like, you know, this is international,

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<v Speaker 2>this is you're dealing with, not just you know, American

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<v Speaker 2>tech people and engineers. This is all over the this

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<v Speaker 2>is a global thing. This is not just And then

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<v Speaker 2>they have you know, bases and places all over the world.

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<v Speaker 2>And so it is true, you know, and the crew

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<v Speaker 2>is true, is diverse, is very diverse. I mean the

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<v Speaker 2>first woman, I mean yeah, baby, and a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>the mission controllers are women now. And of course it's

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<v Speaker 2>just something. But anyway, if anyone is you know, wants

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<v Speaker 2>to check that out, go to the NESSA website and

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<v Speaker 2>you can see, you know, up close and personal what's

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<v Speaker 6>So but that reminded me of something somebody wrote on

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<v Speaker 6>threads today. I don't know who they were, but it

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<v Speaker 6>was a really compelling She's called Motherhood for Good and

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<v Speaker 6>she was writing about the mission and she said she's

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<v Speaker 6>talking about the women that are on board the mission,

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<v Speaker 6>and she says Artemis is Apollo's twin sister, Goddess of

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<v Speaker 6>the Moon, a hunter like her twin brother, but also

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<v Speaker 6>a steward of the wildness. She is also known as

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<v Speaker 6>the protector of women and children, the Goddess of childbirth.

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<v Speaker 6>And so it seems fitting that this mission carries with

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<v Speaker 6>it the first woman to travel this far from Earth,

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<v Speaker 6>the first person of color, the first non American. The

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<v Speaker 6>spacecraft carrying them on this historic journey is called the Integrity.

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<v Speaker 6>Maybe I'm reaching or hearing what I want to hear,

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<v Speaker 6>but to me, this is a new beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, that's amazing. And also, you know decades ago

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<v Speaker 2>that they did a movie about the black women, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Catherine Johnson and others who got got this going. You

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<v Speaker 2>know literally was they were doing math, you know, on

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<v Speaker 4>That was. That was a great movie, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And now again we have these phones that you can

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<v Speaker 2>ask a question, it's going to answer. The only thing

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<v Speaker 2>I worry about is AI right now with all of this.

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<v Speaker 2>And also, you know when you said music creation, I

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<v Speaker 2>was worried about. I'm worried about that because they're now

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<v Speaker 2>one of the labels has an AI, you know, component

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<v Speaker 2>to it, and it's a music, it's AI developed music.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just mm hmm, Hannah, I'm binder who's in hacks.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, she did a whole thing, and she said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I f you guys who are doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, because she goes, you need creativity, you need talent,

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<v Speaker 7>Do we if you're combined to AI gave the machine

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<v Speaker 7>all the information about all the great musicians in the world,

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<v Speaker 7>all the great writers in the world, and combine them,

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<v Speaker 7>could they come up with something creative?

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<v Speaker 2>But then you're taking from all those artists.

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<v Speaker 3>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>The question is if they can, would that be? Would

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<v Speaker 4>that would they be able to create?

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<v Speaker 6>They well, if they are, they're still taking they still

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<v Speaker 6>have to take the various components.

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<v Speaker 3>In fact, I'm involved, they're not creating.

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<v Speaker 6>There's a big lawsuit by authors right now against AI

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<v Speaker 6>who stole our work to use to train AI to

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<v Speaker 6>write like other authors. They can't train that AI unless

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<v Speaker 6>they take something skilled and feed it into it. So

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<v Speaker 6>what they did without permission was fed hundreds of thousands

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<v Speaker 6>of books into their systems.

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<v Speaker 7>So now as an individual, we do that. As an individual,

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<v Speaker 7>you listen to music, you know the music, and then

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<v Speaker 7>you created by the things that you've learned from other musicians.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But if I took your words.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's your melody, which is copywritten, then you're you're then.

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<v Speaker 6>I was saying, it's not just saying you're using it

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<v Speaker 6>for the underlying ability to do so, But.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's a different. One is a sort of

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<v Speaker 6>osmosis of being human, and the other one is training

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<v Speaker 6>to take it away from the human and using it

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<v Speaker 6>to do so. Those feel somehow very different. And right

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<v Speaker 6>now there's a successful suit for taking those works, and

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<v Speaker 6>there's already a settlement on the table worth I think

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<v Speaker 6>the number is like one point five billion, Not that

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<v Speaker 6>any of us authors see much of it, because there's

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<v Speaker 6>so many of us. But still to take those words,

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<v Speaker 6>feed them in and say, if you want to write

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<v Speaker 6>a story about two humorous kids at the Great Pacific

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<v Speaker 6>garbage Patch, here take Gaye Hollers in his book. This

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<v Speaker 6>is how you would create that story. They may not

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<v Speaker 6>be directly stealing every word I wrote, but they're using

422
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<v Speaker 6>every word I wrote in order for them to reshape

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<v Speaker 6>it into their own. Right.

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<v Speaker 7>But if you're an author you get ideas from other

425
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<v Speaker 7>books that have been written, and you see other styles

426
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<v Speaker 7>that have been written. Now, instead of feeding this into

427
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<v Speaker 7>you as an author, it's feeding. It's fed into a machine.

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<v Speaker 7>I think there's there's a lot of questions in there.

429
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<v Speaker 3>Ye, I think human nature.

430
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<v Speaker 6>But humans work differently. You could say that about everything,

431
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<v Speaker 6>but humans work differently. What we're able to assimilate into

432
00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.720
<v Speaker 6>our worldview is always going to be taken from the

433
00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:35.200
<v Speaker 6>things around us. But it's not a methodical lifting, stealing, feeding,

434
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<v Speaker 6>and spitting out.

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<v Speaker 4>Which technology is it.

436
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<v Speaker 2>I'll give you example quickly if I can. There's a

437
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<v Speaker 2>song called My Sweet Lord.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember this.

439
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<v Speaker 2>It is probably the first thing you'll hear in your

440
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<v Speaker 2>intellectual property class. I told this to my son when

441
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<v Speaker 2>he was in law school. I said, the first case

442
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<v Speaker 2>you going to hear an intellectual property right is Brightoons music,

443
00:28:03.839 --> 00:28:09.079
<v Speaker 2>which is my company versus Harris songs. Okay, he didn't

444
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<v Speaker 2>quite believe me until the first day in class. He

445
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<v Speaker 2>gets that teacher, professor, and he gets the case. It's

446
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<v Speaker 2>on the black point and he's squirming in his seat

447
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<v Speaker 2>and the the professor goes, you know, young Ruber, what

448
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<v Speaker 2>are you doing? You know you know, sit still, and

449
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<v Speaker 2>he goes, you don't know, you don't know. My mom

450
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<v Speaker 2>said I was going to get this and and this

451
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<v Speaker 2>is my mom and my uncle's company, Brighton's Music, And

452
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<v Speaker 2>he goes, Brightons Music. It's your family's company. And it's

453
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<v Speaker 2>like the quintessential you know copyright case that they use

454
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<v Speaker 2>in all like copy it's always cited. You know that

455
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<v Speaker 2>as a lawyer, and all the copyright cases, infringement cases,

456
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<v Speaker 2>and that's us. And when I went to the library

457
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<v Speaker 2>at Congress and saw it on the wall, it even

458
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<v Speaker 2>freaked me out even more because there was also a

459
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<v Speaker 2>picture of the Chiffons in there, you know, because they

460
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<v Speaker 2>did he's you know, he's so fine, My sweet lord,

461
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<v Speaker 2>he's so fine. So it's it's just when I saw

462
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<v Speaker 2>that is it's in the library of Congress, you know,

463
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<v Speaker 2>to me, I was like freaking out. But that's but

464
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<v Speaker 2>they if they took that, they took many bars of

465
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<v Speaker 2>that song. I don't think he did it consciously, George,

466
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<v Speaker 2>because he was listening to the music. Because they put

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<v Speaker 2>out a song called the King of Fuh which was

468
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<v Speaker 2>originally Beat Puppy Records, And this is a song that

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<v Speaker 2>they should have now out the mighty f king we

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<v Speaker 2>played on a Hutchson River Radio O'Neil because it's spelled

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<v Speaker 2>f U h K I n G. So you got that.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, I can't say it on the air, but

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<v Speaker 2>I guess I don't know on the internet you can

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<v Speaker 2>say that. I mean, they won't clear it off.

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<v Speaker 7>But I think one of the things that are present

476
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<v Speaker 7>is doing answer. He's making language that we always toward

477
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<v Speaker 7>our kids you can't use, and now we can't tetch

478
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<v Speaker 7>them that now. Now, yeah, they could say, well the

479
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<v Speaker 7>president says that, why can't I use it? And what

480
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<v Speaker 7>do you answer?

481
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<v Speaker 2>Is he your president? Because he ain't mine? And we

482
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<v Speaker 2>just hit the brake. So we're gonna have the time.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna have to. Yeah, I'm glad we got off

484
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<v Speaker 2>of his thanks Neil, because I was about to use

485
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<v Speaker 2>the actual word, but I didn't. We'll be back in

486
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<v Speaker 2>a flash with gay Polis and to talk about more

487
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<v Speaker 2>things that are happening currently and what we need to

488
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<v Speaker 2>do to get things. Maybe I don't know, No Kings,

489
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<v Speaker 2>is that protest gonna work? We'll see anyway, Please come

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<v Speaker 2>back after these quick messages. Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>This is Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson River Radio dot This is Hudson River Radio dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>And we are back with Gaye Paulisner. We were talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the our our Artemis mission and and things we

495
00:31:33.480 --> 00:31:36.119
<v Speaker 2>really should like think about that we need to do

496
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<v Speaker 2>also to to either fight backward do something we all

497
00:31:40.400 --> 00:31:43.680
<v Speaker 2>feel helpless. You said before we started the show that

498
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<v Speaker 2>you weren't even sure you know that you were in

499
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:49.319
<v Speaker 2>the mindset to do, you know, do the podcast today

500
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 2>because of how you were feeling about what's going on.

501
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<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know, people put their head in the

502
00:31:55.440 --> 00:31:58.319
<v Speaker 2>send a lot of people, at least almost the third

503
00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:00.480
<v Speaker 2>of the people, and then there's the third of us

504
00:32:00.519 --> 00:32:03.279
<v Speaker 2>whose brains are melting, and then there's the third of

505
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:08.519
<v Speaker 2>the you know, the cult. I'll say that to be nice,

506
00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:13.240
<v Speaker 2>and you know, what can we do? You know what

507
00:32:13.359 --> 00:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>can we do? And one of the things we did

508
00:32:14.960 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 2>recently was the No King's Day and uh, there the

509
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<v Speaker 2>numbers aren't completely out, but it was over eight million,

510
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<v Speaker 2>close to nine which made it a million more than

511
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<v Speaker 2>the previous one which was seven And there were every

512
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<v Speaker 2>state and smaller towns and red towns, and yet we

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<v Speaker 2>have this this regime in the White House. Now that

514
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<v Speaker 2>does not care about the American people. They care about power.

515
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<v Speaker 2>They care about money.

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<v Speaker 3>Money.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you know, that's a shade of green, right, Yes, money, money,

518
00:32:58.759 --> 00:33:01.480
<v Speaker 2>money at least, you know. And if I get one

519
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<v Speaker 2>of those dollars, one of those bills with his signature,

520
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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to rip them. I'm going to burn it.

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<v Speaker 4>If I rip it up.

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<v Speaker 7>And if you go to the bank and they give

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<v Speaker 7>you one of those that's an one hundred dollar bill,

524
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<v Speaker 7>can you say, excuse me, I don't I don't want

525
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<v Speaker 7>this one?

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<v Speaker 2>I could.

527
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<v Speaker 8>Then?

528
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<v Speaker 2>Will that caught me off?

529
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<v Speaker 3>You know what?

530
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<v Speaker 8>What?

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<v Speaker 2>I what I would I burned the hundred I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think so for me.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't think I burned the money. But I think

534
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<v Speaker 7>I could say, no, I don't want this, give it

535
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<v Speaker 7>to me in twenties, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, well, I don't know. That's the that's the

537
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.000
<v Speaker 2>craziest thing too. But but okay, what do you what

538
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<v Speaker 2>do you feel about you know, the protesting you said

539
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<v Speaker 2>you know you were going to go out. What what

540
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<v Speaker 2>do you think that impact is having an impact?

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<v Speaker 6>I think, like so many things, the answer to that

542
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:57.480
<v Speaker 6>is complicated, complex, not simple, and also one of the

543
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<v Speaker 6>mistakes that we on the left are making, which is

544
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<v Speaker 6>to judge whether something's valuable or not very in the

545
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<v Speaker 6>black and white, and then dismiss it if we deem

546
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<v Speaker 6>it not valuable, versus say, hey, that was great, and

547
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<v Speaker 6>what will we do next. I think that the protests

548
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<v Speaker 6>have been inspiring, have kept people going, have helped people

549
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<v Speaker 6>to see how many people we have who feel the

550
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<v Speaker 6>way we do and are willing to give up a

551
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<v Speaker 6>day to.

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<v Speaker 3>Go do something.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think that one of the biggest problems with

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<v Speaker 6>these protests is that one day here and there won't

555
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<v Speaker 6>do it.

556
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<v Speaker 3>We really need to.

557
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<v Speaker 6>Take to the streets and stay in the streets and

558
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<v Speaker 6>shut everything down. We're in the streets, and it's easy

559
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<v Speaker 6>to see how difficult that is. And I think that

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<v Speaker 6>one of the things I'm realizing, because if you watch

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<v Speaker 6>a smaller country do it, the people take to the streets,

562
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<v Speaker 6>they stay in the streets there there day and night.

563
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<v Speaker 6>They don't leave the streets for periods of weeks until

564
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<v Speaker 6>something gives.

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<v Speaker 3>And in the beginning of this regime, I was.

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<v Speaker 6>Constantly saying, why aren't we doing it, Why aren't we

567
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<v Speaker 6>doing it?

568
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<v Speaker 3>Why aren't we doing it?

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<v Speaker 6>But one of the things I don't think I was

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<v Speaker 6>taking into consideration is how large a country we are.

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<v Speaker 4>And well, it's not the largeness of the country, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Well it's read out. Well that too, I get.

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<v Speaker 6>That was my next That was the second half agreed,

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<v Speaker 6>the second half of the sentences. But number one, how long,

575
00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:03.199
<v Speaker 6>marge and spread out we are is a problem because

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<v Speaker 6>if you took those eight million and you put them

577
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<v Speaker 6>all in one place, the momentum might be different, it

578
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:12.719
<v Speaker 6>might feel differently, it might be more sustainable. But when

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<v Speaker 6>you have instead these kind of pockets of things where

580
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<v Speaker 6>it's easy to walk away and say, okay, I got

581
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<v Speaker 6>to get back to regular things, and it doesn't seem

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<v Speaker 6>to amount to enough.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the how.

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<v Speaker 6>Large and spread out, And then you bring in the diversity,

585
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<v Speaker 6>and I think that our diversity has become incredibly challenging

586
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<v Speaker 6>in that even amongst ourselves, whatever your self is, we

587
00:36:45.000 --> 00:36:48.559
<v Speaker 6>have become split on so many things, and that we

588
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<v Speaker 6>have lost sight of the fact that unlike some of

589
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<v Speaker 6>the other countries we look to and see the things

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<v Speaker 6>that they're doing, they don't have the kind of diversity

591
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<v Speaker 6>we have, so they don't have the amount of complexity

592
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<v Speaker 6>we have and what we've ended up doing here is

593
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<v Speaker 6>kind of taken on these impossible standards for everything, and

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<v Speaker 6>it also makes it hard to maintain these actions.

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<v Speaker 3>And our immediate.

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<v Speaker 6>Way of functioning right now seems to be to tear

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<v Speaker 6>down instead of build up. And so one of the

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<v Speaker 6>things I'm trying to model is one human being with

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<v Speaker 6>a small platform combined of maybe five thousand people between

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<v Speaker 6>my various you know, it's not big, but the people

601
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<v Speaker 6>who know me through my books for a long time

602
00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:54.519
<v Speaker 6>and then through my activism seem to care what I

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<v Speaker 6>have to say, and it seems to motivate them. And

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<v Speaker 6>one of the things that I try to bring to

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<v Speaker 6>the table is that everything is not in either or situation.

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<v Speaker 6>You can speak out against this while not hating everybody.

607
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<v Speaker 6>You can speak out against this while not hating everybody.

608
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<v Speaker 6>You can speak out against this while not trying to

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<v Speaker 6>destroy or tear it down.

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<v Speaker 2>It's tough. It's tough to figure out though, as a

611
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<v Speaker 2>person when you want to do something and you want

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<v Speaker 2>to find like people, like minded people, but sometimes like

613
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<v Speaker 2>minded people don't look as what you said. On the

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<v Speaker 2>other side of the coin, you know, they're they're they're

615
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<v Speaker 2>planted in what they believe, and you need to kind

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00:38:40.360 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>of look look around. You know that you know people,

617
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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you don't look around, you're going to

618
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<v Speaker 2>miss it. That's Ferris Bueller. You know, you know you

619
00:38:48.199 --> 00:38:49.880
<v Speaker 2>got to take a look at life, and if you

620
00:38:49.920 --> 00:38:52.920
<v Speaker 2>don't look around sometimes you're going to miss it. And

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<v Speaker 2>things I think get lost in translation in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>and that you know, people are The good part is

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<v Speaker 2>that there are like minded people and we all feel

624
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<v Speaker 2>the same way. And the question is how do we

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<v Speaker 2>get how do we get to where we want to go?

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<v Speaker 6>And how do you think about one of the things

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<v Speaker 6>that I'm thinking as you say that, And it is

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<v Speaker 6>not in small part influenced by the fact that my

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<v Speaker 6>sister is a very practicing Buddhist and she's a Buddhist teacher,

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<v Speaker 6>and I've been going to her teachings on a regular

631
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<v Speaker 6>basis as a completely a religious but very spiritual.

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<v Speaker 3>Human being, whatever that means.

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<v Speaker 6>And when Buddhists and we were talking about the Walk

634
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<v Speaker 6>for Peace and how moving all of that was. When

635
00:39:39.719 --> 00:39:42.960
<v Speaker 6>Buddhists talk about their mind, you were just saying, you know,

636
00:39:43.360 --> 00:39:46.760
<v Speaker 6>like minded. When Buddhists talk about their mind, it's not here,

637
00:39:46.880 --> 00:39:49.400
<v Speaker 6>it's here. And I think that one of the I'm

638
00:39:49.440 --> 00:39:51.719
<v Speaker 6>pointing to my heart for people who can't see me,

639
00:39:51.840 --> 00:39:54.400
<v Speaker 6>my chest, my heart, where my heart lives. And I

640
00:39:54.480 --> 00:39:56.480
<v Speaker 6>think that one of the things we really need to

641
00:39:56.639 --> 00:40:01.199
<v Speaker 6>do is to stop worrying about if we're perfect like minded,

642
00:40:01.920 --> 00:40:05.480
<v Speaker 6>and worry about whether we're perfectly like hearted, and that

643
00:40:05.760 --> 00:40:08.760
<v Speaker 6>is that all human beings have a right to exist.

644
00:40:09.920 --> 00:40:12.239
<v Speaker 6>They have a right to safety, they have a right

645
00:40:12.360 --> 00:40:16.199
<v Speaker 6>to peace, they have a right to happiness if they

646
00:40:16.280 --> 00:40:19.000
<v Speaker 6>can find that, they have a right to be safe

647
00:40:19.159 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 6>in their own homes. You know, there are some very

648
00:40:22.320 --> 00:40:25.159
<v Speaker 6>basic things we can all agree on. And I think

649
00:40:25.199 --> 00:40:27.760
<v Speaker 6>that one of the things this regime has done, being

650
00:40:28.679 --> 00:40:32.280
<v Speaker 6>ten years in office or still in the psyche of

651
00:40:32.360 --> 00:40:37.400
<v Speaker 6>what's going on, is convince us that we're not like hearted.

652
00:40:37.599 --> 00:40:40.800
<v Speaker 3>But we are. So many of us are like hearted.

653
00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:47.280
<v Speaker 6>We might be misguided, we might be ignorant, but most

654
00:40:47.400 --> 00:40:50.280
<v Speaker 6>of us, the majority of us, want the same thing.

655
00:40:51.559 --> 00:40:54.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you want your kids to be safe, you want

656
00:40:54.199 --> 00:40:55.679
<v Speaker 2>to have a roof over your head, you want to

657
00:40:55.760 --> 00:40:59.960
<v Speaker 2>have food. I mean, right now, the liveability, the affordability

658
00:41:00.679 --> 00:41:03.239
<v Speaker 2>is we're paying you know. I know in La Malcolm,

659
00:41:03.239 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what. The guess is always higher there, but.

660
00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:06.920
<v Speaker 3>We're six dollars.

661
00:41:07.840 --> 00:41:10.960
<v Speaker 7>Yes, it's close to six dollars. It's like about five

662
00:41:11.039 --> 00:41:14.719
<v Speaker 7>to eighty right. Well here with cash not credit cards.

663
00:41:14.920 --> 00:41:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Here it's over four dollars. It's it's over four dollars

664
00:41:18.599 --> 00:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>a gallon now and when I'm getting gas and becausen't

665
00:41:22.960 --> 00:41:23.119
<v Speaker 2>like that.

666
00:41:23.400 --> 00:41:30.920
<v Speaker 8>Before this debacle in Iran taking things philosophical, we were

667
00:41:31.239 --> 00:41:33.639
<v Speaker 8>never I mean, first of all, we're still an experiment.

668
00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:36.039
<v Speaker 7>You know, we're going to be two hundred and fifty years.

669
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<v Speaker 7>That is nothing in comparison to Iran or a lot

670
00:41:39.920 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 7>of other countries. I mean, who've been around you know,

671
00:41:42.599 --> 00:41:45.360
<v Speaker 7>thousands of year, thousands of years, but have been around

672
00:41:45.480 --> 00:41:49.239
<v Speaker 7>many more reas than we are. And also technology that

673
00:41:49.400 --> 00:41:53.800
<v Speaker 7>we can destroy ourselves. Now, this was made you know

674
00:41:54.320 --> 00:41:56.199
<v Speaker 7>when I was in high school and they had the

675
00:41:56.559 --> 00:41:58.039
<v Speaker 7>Adam bomb, the atomic bomb.

676
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:01.239
<v Speaker 4>H this was a big bomb.

677
00:42:01.280 --> 00:42:04.000
<v Speaker 7>Now that's that's nothing in comparison what we could do

678
00:42:04.159 --> 00:42:07.559
<v Speaker 7>now and destroy ourselves. I don't know if you've ever

679
00:42:07.599 --> 00:42:11.800
<v Speaker 7>seen this movie King of Hearts with Alan Bates. King

680
00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.880
<v Speaker 7>of Horse takes place in World War World War One

681
00:42:16.039 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 7>and there's a village in France that the English troops

682
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:25.960
<v Speaker 7>are liberating, but they're not sure whether the nazis nothing.

683
00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:29.599
<v Speaker 7>The Germans have left, so they send Alan Bates into

684
00:42:31.440 --> 00:42:34.679
<v Speaker 7>a look at there. In the meantime, the Germans have left,

685
00:42:34.920 --> 00:42:37.960
<v Speaker 7>but they let the doors of the insane asylum open.

686
00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:41.840
<v Speaker 2>All the people were nuts and it's about right here now.

687
00:42:42.559 --> 00:42:45.159
<v Speaker 7>And they inhabited the town. But that you know, they

688
00:42:45.199 --> 00:42:47.519
<v Speaker 7>were not violent nuts. They were fun nuts.

689
00:42:49.360 --> 00:42:52.360
<v Speaker 2>And and and then sometimes you feel like a nuts.

690
00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.360
<v Speaker 7>Sometimes when Alan Bates comes into the town, they think

691
00:42:55.400 --> 00:42:57.800
<v Speaker 7>he's the king of hearts, and then you know, they

692
00:42:57.840 --> 00:43:00.760
<v Speaker 7>make him the king, and then the Germans are and

693
00:43:00.840 --> 00:43:03.440
<v Speaker 7>then he goes back to his troops and says, you know,

694
00:43:03.639 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 7>they're out of town. Then the Germans come back, and

695
00:43:07.480 --> 00:43:11.559
<v Speaker 7>the Germans and the English troops look at each other

696
00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:14.639
<v Speaker 7>and they all get in the line ready and fire,

697
00:43:14.679 --> 00:43:15.840
<v Speaker 7>and they all shoot each other.

698
00:43:16.800 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh fabulous.

699
00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:22.280
<v Speaker 7>Wait and and the people in the asylum see this

700
00:43:22.559 --> 00:43:24.000
<v Speaker 7>and they say, no, we don't want this, and they

701
00:43:24.039 --> 00:43:27.679
<v Speaker 7>take a fold their costumes and go back into the asylum,

702
00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:33.000
<v Speaker 7>which they think is outside. And then the end you see,

703
00:43:33.559 --> 00:43:35.880
<v Speaker 7>you see Alan Bates naked, you know what, we see

704
00:43:35.960 --> 00:43:39.719
<v Speaker 7>his butt and he's carrying a bird cage and he's ringing,

705
00:43:40.480 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 7>and he's ringing the asylum because he wants to get

706
00:43:42.320 --> 00:43:44.039
<v Speaker 7>in because the world is crazy.

707
00:43:44.119 --> 00:43:46.800
<v Speaker 4>That's what I feel happening now. The world is crazy.

708
00:43:46.880 --> 00:43:49.440
<v Speaker 2>It is crazy, and you want to go back to

709
00:43:49.960 --> 00:43:50.760
<v Speaker 2>see the asylum.

710
00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:54.880
<v Speaker 4>Didn't see that destroy the world?

711
00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:55.719
<v Speaker 2>You know?

712
00:43:56.079 --> 00:43:56.320
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

713
00:43:57.239 --> 00:43:59.480
<v Speaker 2>I mean these people have the nuclear codes. You know,

714
00:43:59.599 --> 00:44:01.199
<v Speaker 2>that's scared a living crap.

715
00:44:01.679 --> 00:44:03.480
<v Speaker 7>Well, that one person then has the nuclear code. I

716
00:44:03.480 --> 00:44:05.400
<v Speaker 7>don't know what would happen if he decides to do that.

717
00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Say goodbye to Hollywood where.

718
00:44:08.719 --> 00:44:09.800
<v Speaker 4>Anyone would stop him?

719
00:44:10.039 --> 00:44:12.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know. I don't think, I don't know.

720
00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:14.039
<v Speaker 2>No one seems to be able to stop him.

721
00:44:14.119 --> 00:44:17.119
<v Speaker 6>So that's that's a so far we seemed to talk

722
00:44:17.199 --> 00:44:20.119
<v Speaker 6>about stopping him. Every time I see one of our

723
00:44:20.239 --> 00:44:25.280
<v Speaker 6>politicians saying like, we're we were considering, I'm like, how

724
00:44:25.360 --> 00:44:28.519
<v Speaker 6>long you're going to consider before taking action?

725
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:29.239
<v Speaker 8>Yeah?

726
00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:32.519
<v Speaker 7>Especially well the general is what I think he's fired

727
00:44:32.559 --> 00:44:34.960
<v Speaker 7>four generals in the last four months.

728
00:44:35.119 --> 00:44:39.079
<v Speaker 2>No, who's like twelve? Much more? No, it's more than

729
00:44:39.920 --> 00:44:42.239
<v Speaker 2>three four months, it's a dozen already.

730
00:44:42.440 --> 00:44:44.800
<v Speaker 6>I want to take you back to one of back

731
00:44:44.880 --> 00:44:47.000
<v Speaker 6>to Artemis for a second, because I think it's one

732
00:44:47.039 --> 00:44:52.320
<v Speaker 6>of the reasons why Artemis is so important is when

733
00:44:52.400 --> 00:44:56.840
<v Speaker 6>my kids were home for the pandemic and we were

734
00:44:57.119 --> 00:45:00.880
<v Speaker 6>at the middle end of you know who's regime, and

735
00:45:01.039 --> 00:45:04.599
<v Speaker 6>I was out protesting every week, and it was all

736
00:45:04.679 --> 00:45:05.800
<v Speaker 6>I was talking about and.

737
00:45:07.440 --> 00:45:08.199
<v Speaker 3>My sons.

738
00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:11.079
<v Speaker 6>One of my sons, I think my younger son said

739
00:45:11.119 --> 00:45:15.639
<v Speaker 6>to me, you know, kind of said to me, there's

740
00:45:15.679 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 6>got to be another side to you. There's got to

741
00:45:18.239 --> 00:45:20.559
<v Speaker 6>be He didn't say exactly this, but he was kind

742
00:45:20.599 --> 00:45:24.480
<v Speaker 6>of like, we admire all you're doing. It's great what

743
00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:27.320
<v Speaker 6>you're doing, but it's kind of the only thing you're doing.

744
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:34.440
<v Speaker 6>And from an adult perspective, you might have thoughts about that.

745
00:45:35.360 --> 00:45:40.320
<v Speaker 6>But from a kid's perspective, especially forget my son now,

746
00:45:40.400 --> 00:45:42.840
<v Speaker 6>but the children in grade school and middle school and

747
00:45:42.960 --> 00:45:46.960
<v Speaker 6>high school, from their perspectives, they have been living through

748
00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 6>this so long. It's all they know and it's all

749
00:45:50.840 --> 00:45:53.880
<v Speaker 6>they see, and it's in their faces. And it is

750
00:45:54.199 --> 00:46:00.760
<v Speaker 6>why something like this mission, like the Olympics, like the

751
00:46:00.880 --> 00:46:06.320
<v Speaker 6>people who do smallly heroic things, is so freaking important

752
00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:10.760
<v Speaker 6>because it gives us a collective look how hard it

753
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.639
<v Speaker 6>is for us to not go there, right before the

754
00:46:13.760 --> 00:46:16.639
<v Speaker 6>podcast we say like, okay, we can't talk about this,

755
00:46:16.840 --> 00:46:22.400
<v Speaker 6>but it has permeated understandably everything we do. So to

756
00:46:22.639 --> 00:46:28.800
<v Speaker 6>have something of significant value, of historic value, like this

757
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:34.760
<v Speaker 6>space mission gives them something to hold on to, some

758
00:46:35.159 --> 00:46:40.039
<v Speaker 6>a shared shared humanity to talk about that's not negative humanity,

759
00:46:40.199 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 6>that's not the loss of humanity, but actually allows them

760
00:46:44.079 --> 00:46:47.000
<v Speaker 6>to see the beautiful side of humanity.

761
00:46:48.000 --> 00:46:52.079
<v Speaker 2>And this is I mean from this whole mission so far.

762
00:46:52.199 --> 00:46:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm just you know, pray for the safety of the

763
00:46:55.119 --> 00:46:58.400
<v Speaker 2>crew there and everything goes well on their reentry. But

764
00:46:58.719 --> 00:47:02.880
<v Speaker 2>what they have accomplished is amazing. Again, it took fifty

765
00:47:02.920 --> 00:47:08.280
<v Speaker 2>four years to do this, and uh, you know after

766
00:47:09.239 --> 00:47:13.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, after the the Shuttle that you know, blew up.

767
00:47:13.480 --> 00:47:16.840
<v Speaker 2>It just that NASA program just that was that it was.

768
00:47:17.400 --> 00:47:20.320
<v Speaker 2>It was gone for a long time. And then you

769
00:47:20.440 --> 00:47:24.119
<v Speaker 2>got SpaceX and you got virgin and you got Bezos.

770
00:47:24.280 --> 00:47:29.199
<v Speaker 2>You know, uh with his penis looking rockets, I mean,

771
00:47:29.239 --> 00:47:33.000
<v Speaker 2>look at his rockets. You can see what that is. Yes,

772
00:47:33.440 --> 00:47:36.599
<v Speaker 2>and and and and and you know, and the and

773
00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:39.519
<v Speaker 2>then we didn't even touch billionaires in their effect on

774
00:47:39.639 --> 00:47:46.480
<v Speaker 2>what's happening. Any No, No, I don't believe it does

775
00:47:46.559 --> 00:47:49.280
<v Speaker 2>don't totally quote me, but from what I'm reading, it's

776
00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:53.400
<v Speaker 2>NASA and Boeing and and it's the NASA, you know,

777
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:58.199
<v Speaker 2>all all the engineers and technology people and and it's

778
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.599
<v Speaker 2>to do this is amazing. It's something.

779
00:48:01.880 --> 00:48:06.119
<v Speaker 6>It really is magical. It's actually magical. It's actually the

780
00:48:06.280 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 6>magic that is missing.

781
00:48:07.880 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 4>I was watching the launching and it's, oh my god,

782
00:48:10.079 --> 00:48:11.719
<v Speaker 4>that they put that thing up.

783
00:48:12.280 --> 00:48:15.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, I saw that the apollos were the Saturn

784
00:48:15.920 --> 00:48:19.199
<v Speaker 2>five rockets, which I think this is even more powerful.

785
00:48:19.920 --> 00:48:24.559
<v Speaker 2>But when I was there in the viewing area, the earth,

786
00:48:24.679 --> 00:48:26.599
<v Speaker 2>you know the song, I feel the earth move under

787
00:48:26.639 --> 00:48:29.800
<v Speaker 2>my feet. The earth know, Carol King hit it right,

788
00:48:30.679 --> 00:48:33.199
<v Speaker 2>you know, the earth was moving under my feet and

789
00:48:33.280 --> 00:48:37.599
<v Speaker 2>everyone else's and it would just rumbled through. I had

790
00:48:37.679 --> 00:48:40.519
<v Speaker 2>never felt an earthquake before until my family moved to

791
00:48:40.679 --> 00:48:41.920
<v Speaker 2>l A, and then I felt many.

792
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I felt the earthquake right.

793
00:48:44.000 --> 00:48:46.840
<v Speaker 2>But but but the rumble and the way it goes

794
00:48:46.960 --> 00:48:49.360
<v Speaker 2>up and you're tracking it and just tracking, and then

795
00:48:49.639 --> 00:48:52.440
<v Speaker 2>when the second part of it comes off, it trails

796
00:48:52.480 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 2>down falls into the ocean, and then you know, like more,

797
00:48:55.920 --> 00:48:58.360
<v Speaker 2>they're on their way and they're going to be you know, hitting.

798
00:48:58.440 --> 00:48:59.119
<v Speaker 4>Going into the.

799
00:49:01.239 --> 00:49:04.440
<v Speaker 7>Amazing that they can contact the people in the spaceship

800
00:49:04.920 --> 00:49:07.199
<v Speaker 7>and talk to them. And the only time they couldn't

801
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:08.800
<v Speaker 7>talk to them when they were in the dark side of.

802
00:49:08.800 --> 00:49:12.039
<v Speaker 2>The morning, the dark side of the moon, and and

803
00:49:12.280 --> 00:49:14.320
<v Speaker 2>and I could. And what they saw, I mean, no

804
00:49:14.440 --> 00:49:17.199
<v Speaker 2>one else has seen. And they have to be the

805
00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:21.239
<v Speaker 2>ones explaining it. They are the storytellers. Not only they

806
00:49:21.400 --> 00:49:26.920
<v Speaker 2>are an incredible you know, crew with amazing abilities, but

807
00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:29.599
<v Speaker 2>to be able to see that and then can be

808
00:49:29.800 --> 00:49:33.840
<v Speaker 2>reporting reporting back and pictures and such. Uh, it's just

809
00:49:34.360 --> 00:49:35.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, and what.

810
00:49:36.840 --> 00:49:38.920
<v Speaker 7>They still have that pressure when they when the rocket

811
00:49:39.000 --> 00:49:40.920
<v Speaker 7>takes off. They don't talk about that anymore.

812
00:49:41.159 --> 00:49:44.639
<v Speaker 2>The G force is insane and they.

813
00:49:44.559 --> 00:49:47.039
<v Speaker 7>Don't talk I don't think I've heard them talk about

814
00:49:47.079 --> 00:49:50.039
<v Speaker 7>that anymore. Used to be the one of the main topics.

815
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:53.599
<v Speaker 2>And say the G force and have that pressure on you,

816
00:49:54.239 --> 00:49:58.360
<v Speaker 2>I mean they they have. I'm sure there's still plenty.

817
00:49:58.440 --> 00:50:00.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean that look what you're sitting on top of.

818
00:50:00.559 --> 00:50:05.840
<v Speaker 2>It's this small capsule sitting on a huge rocket. You know,

819
00:50:05.920 --> 00:50:08.239
<v Speaker 2>it's you know, rocket man, it's still it's a rocket.

820
00:50:08.679 --> 00:50:12.360
<v Speaker 2>And uh, it's it's just to see it into and

821
00:50:12.480 --> 00:50:15.480
<v Speaker 2>then you know, and they said, like four hundred thousand

822
00:50:15.559 --> 00:50:19.039
<v Speaker 2>people in the vicinity were watching this, and they would

823
00:50:19.039 --> 00:50:23.880
<v Speaker 2>be in Titusville and Cocoa Beach, you know, and Daytona.

824
00:50:23.960 --> 00:50:25.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, you can see it from all those spots.

825
00:50:27.159 --> 00:50:29.440
<v Speaker 2>I was lucky enough again to be able to through

826
00:50:29.519 --> 00:50:33.039
<v Speaker 2>my uncle who got us these passes, to be in

827
00:50:34.360 --> 00:50:36.440
<v Speaker 2>on the ground itself in the area.

828
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<v Speaker 6>You know, what I was thinking would be a cool thing.

829
00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.199
<v Speaker 6>You forgive me if I'm throwing out like a ridiculous idea,

830
00:50:43.239 --> 00:50:45.440
<v Speaker 6>but I was thinking as you're talking, I'm just thinking

831
00:50:45.480 --> 00:50:47.280
<v Speaker 6>about what I was saying and what you're saying, and

832
00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:50.800
<v Speaker 6>the fact that our kids so desperately need this hope

833
00:50:50.840 --> 00:50:52.800
<v Speaker 6>and magic and miracle to hang on to. In that

834
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<v Speaker 6>in addition to you know, the adults that have been

835
00:50:55.880 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 6>watching it probably in classrooms around the country. Yeah, that's

836
00:50:59.840 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 6>what The teachers are, fabulous educators who you know, do

837
00:51:03.719 --> 00:51:06.760
<v Speaker 6>everything they do, are doing in these classrooms, and I

838
00:51:06.920 --> 00:51:10.039
<v Speaker 6>was thinking it would be really cool to have a

839
00:51:10.159 --> 00:51:13.760
<v Speaker 6>classroom teacher and their kids on and let them talk

840
00:51:13.800 --> 00:51:19.000
<v Speaker 6>about what they got out of watching this space mission

841
00:51:19.079 --> 00:51:23.280
<v Speaker 6>and how it helps their world view and what they

842
00:51:23.440 --> 00:51:27.320
<v Speaker 6>learn from it. Because I think somewhere along the line,

843
00:51:27.360 --> 00:51:32.800
<v Speaker 6>we have to keep steering these kids towards that space

844
00:51:33.039 --> 00:51:37.239
<v Speaker 6>and magic and spirituality that comes with watching something like that.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't mean religious spirituality. I mean it's something bigger

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<v Speaker 6>than yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>My spirituality is in the same the same spot as yours.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was thinking of it just like that.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, I do, Yes, I do because of my books.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's let's maybe get together and have to be

852
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<v Speaker 2>sooner rather than later. And they had some kids asking

853
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<v Speaker 2>questions to the NASA people, and they were then giving

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<v Speaker 2>those questions to the astronauts and they and one of

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<v Speaker 2>the kids like basically said, if there's an emergency and

856
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<v Speaker 2>you have to do CPR in space, how do you

857
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<v Speaker 2>do it? This is a kid thinking this like this

858
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<v Speaker 2>is a question. Yeah, uh, And I think it was Hansen.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know which it was Hansen or Wiseman. I'm

860
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<v Speaker 2>not sure or they They did that this is how

861
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<v Speaker 2>they would do it, because they they're floating in space, right,

862
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<v Speaker 2>So how do you get yourself in a position to

863
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<v Speaker 2>keep yourself still, you know, and keep the person still?

864
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<v Speaker 2>And they said that they had to back up into things,

865
00:52:40.159 --> 00:52:43.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, to put themselves against stuff in this small little.

866
00:52:44.079 --> 00:52:47.960
<v Speaker 2>It's like two minivans traveling in space and they were

867
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<v Speaker 2>able to pump you know and show the kid, you

868
00:52:51.199 --> 00:52:53.559
<v Speaker 2>know what that they would do, and you know, just

869
00:52:53.599 --> 00:52:56.960
<v Speaker 2>stuff stuff like that, I mean, and what they're thinking about,

870
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<v Speaker 2>you know. So yeah, it would be great to have

871
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<v Speaker 2>some some kids.

872
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<v Speaker 4>And simple thing.

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<v Speaker 6>How do you go to the bathroom without yes, I all, yeah,

874
00:53:06.599 --> 00:53:09.760
<v Speaker 6>that's the first kid question and usually the second adult question.

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00:53:10.079 --> 00:53:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Right, Well that's yeah, well that's that's the bathroom. The

876
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<v Speaker 2>toilet wasn't working.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, you know, there's no gravity there, so you know,

878
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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't they.

879
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<v Speaker 2>Had they had a resort to they had to resort

880
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:26.440
<v Speaker 2>to bags again. But it's uh, it's it's something else

881
00:53:26.519 --> 00:53:30.639
<v Speaker 2>to just think about. Again. If there's any Japanese engineers

882
00:53:30.679 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 2>out there, helps out.

883
00:53:32.960 --> 00:53:35.679
<v Speaker 4>Uh always say, don't want to get close to the

884
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<v Speaker 4>astronauts when they come off till the shower.

885
00:53:38.480 --> 00:53:42.199
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well they do get to wash around or something.

886
00:53:42.320 --> 00:53:45.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, and then the big thing used to be tanged,

887
00:53:45.199 --> 00:53:50.280
<v Speaker 2>but now it's uh, it's nutella. I mean, you talk

888
00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:54.639
<v Speaker 2>about an ad campaign that they don't have to do anything.

889
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:58.519
<v Speaker 2>They get permission to show the astronauts sending nutella through

890
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:02.039
<v Speaker 2>gravity and the other one atching it. You know, I

891
00:54:02.159 --> 00:54:05.039
<v Speaker 2>want this, But that was to me that was very

892
00:54:05.119 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>funny that, you know, of all the things that they

893
00:54:07.119 --> 00:54:09.719
<v Speaker 2>showed and focused on, it was they liked nutel office.

894
00:54:09.880 --> 00:54:16.320
<v Speaker 2>It's okay that nothing. Apparently this is free ads. They

895
00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:19.559
<v Speaker 2>should Their next ad should just be you know the guys.

896
00:54:20.800 --> 00:54:24.079
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so, I mean, I think we're getting to

897
00:54:24.599 --> 00:54:28.679
<v Speaker 2>the rap here. What I never asked your shade of green? Quickly?

898
00:54:28.800 --> 00:54:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I know it's at the end. I usually do it

899
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<v Speaker 2>in the beginning. Do you have a shade of green

900
00:54:32.280 --> 00:54:35.119
<v Speaker 2>today that we have to get out? I never I

901
00:54:35.199 --> 00:54:37.719
<v Speaker 2>didn't ask that question, which is usually my front question.

902
00:54:37.679 --> 00:54:39.039
<v Speaker 3>And I forgot to think about that.

903
00:54:39.159 --> 00:54:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Today's a bad question. It's okay.

904
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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to give you a very practical shade of green, sure,

905
00:54:45.320 --> 00:54:48.960
<v Speaker 6>which is I have been very into the color green

906
00:54:49.039 --> 00:54:51.000
<v Speaker 6>in my art, which is funny because as a kid,

907
00:54:51.119 --> 00:54:53.880
<v Speaker 6>I didn't like the color green, but I especially like

908
00:54:53.960 --> 00:54:58.920
<v Speaker 6>sort of a spring right right right, but the green.

909
00:55:00.000 --> 00:55:03.320
<v Speaker 6>And when we hang up, there was no protest near me,

910
00:55:03.400 --> 00:55:05.199
<v Speaker 6>and I just felt like I couldn't stay in the

911
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.039
<v Speaker 6>house today the whole day and go about business as usual.

912
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<v Speaker 6>So I put out a call on my Facebook page

913
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<v Speaker 6>that at six o'clock Eastern time, I'm just going to

914
00:55:13.920 --> 00:55:16.360
<v Speaker 6>go out to the usual spot in my town where

915
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<v Speaker 6>we usually protest and stand there with a sign that

916
00:55:20.119 --> 00:55:22.800
<v Speaker 6>says peace, and I'm going to make wishes for the

917
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<v Speaker 6>world and for the people and Iran that I know

918
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:28.239
<v Speaker 6>and the people in our country who are suffering that

919
00:55:28.320 --> 00:55:33.840
<v Speaker 6>I know. And that sign is primarily green. So there's

920
00:55:33.880 --> 00:55:36.320
<v Speaker 6>a very practical answer for you in terms of the

921
00:55:36.719 --> 00:55:37.840
<v Speaker 6>lettering on the sign.

922
00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:41.639
<v Speaker 2>Now, we got some green at the piece. We like

923
00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:43.719
<v Speaker 2>to keep that. And where can people get information? You

924
00:55:43.800 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 2>have so many books? We didn't we only mentioned one

925
00:55:45.599 --> 00:55:49.039
<v Speaker 2>or no. That's okay, but next time we'll do more

926
00:55:49.119 --> 00:55:52.760
<v Speaker 2>on the books. But where can they get hold of you?

927
00:55:53.519 --> 00:55:56.480
<v Speaker 6>They can find me on social media at gay Paul

928
00:55:56.760 --> 00:56:00.840
<v Speaker 6>g A E p O L. They can find me

929
00:56:01.239 --> 00:56:06.400
<v Speaker 6>my books. Wherever our books are sold online, they can

930
00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:08.320
<v Speaker 6>find me through you.

931
00:56:11.239 --> 00:56:15.199
<v Speaker 2>It's it's at g A G A O L g

932
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<v Speaker 2>A p O L.

933
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<v Speaker 3>So I'll use that in my all my social media

934
00:56:19.440 --> 00:56:21.000
<v Speaker 3>there right right, Okay.

935
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<v Speaker 2>All right, well, you are an amazing person and and

936
00:56:26.480 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 2>I just love to have you on and there's so

937
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:31.039
<v Speaker 2>much to talk about. There's so much going on in

938
00:56:31.119 --> 00:56:36.679
<v Speaker 2>the world. And and I hope that cooler heads. No,

939
00:56:36.880 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>I I just giving it. Think he gives an eight

940
00:56:40.440 --> 00:56:44.039
<v Speaker 2>o'clock dead. I mean, I just people are nervous at

941
00:56:44.199 --> 00:56:47.920
<v Speaker 2>eight o'clock. It's like something's going to explode, you know. Uh.

942
00:56:48.440 --> 00:56:51.480
<v Speaker 2>And you know we both have kids, and you know

943
00:56:51.519 --> 00:56:55.880
<v Speaker 2>we're just nervous wreck, you know, and nervous wreck at

944
00:56:55.920 --> 00:56:58.519
<v Speaker 2>this point. I mean, I just I try to be

945
00:56:59.079 --> 00:57:03.239
<v Speaker 2>calm in uh. You know, music is what makes me calm.

946
00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:07.760
<v Speaker 3>And this this space, some of that beautiful music. It's

947
00:57:07.840 --> 00:57:09.679
<v Speaker 3>still Sonny out, go outside.

948
00:57:10.239 --> 00:57:12.519
<v Speaker 2>I'll take the dog out again. It's pretty windy, but

949
00:57:12.639 --> 00:57:15.920
<v Speaker 2>it's okay. Uh. And yeah, it's just you know, you

950
00:57:16.039 --> 00:57:17.480
<v Speaker 2>have to have your health. You know, I had a

951
00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:21.480
<v Speaker 2>little health issue, but okay, so far I'm not going

952
00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:26.559
<v Speaker 2>on the wood and and that's that's it. So all right.

953
00:57:26.719 --> 00:57:30.280
<v Speaker 2>Go find Gay at Gay Paul the a E. P O.

954
00:57:30.440 --> 00:57:32.559
<v Speaker 2>L with the little ad percent in front of it,

955
00:57:33.119 --> 00:57:35.599
<v Speaker 2>and check out her books. Check out all the great

956
00:57:35.679 --> 00:57:40.199
<v Speaker 2>things she's doing. Get activate yourself. People, do what you can,

957
00:57:40.360 --> 00:57:42.840
<v Speaker 2>whatever you can, as small as it is, whatever it is.

958
00:57:42.920 --> 00:57:46.360
<v Speaker 6>Putting kindness out into the world is something, it really is.

959
00:57:46.679 --> 00:57:48.920
<v Speaker 6>I hugged a stranger in a parking lot the other

960
00:57:49.039 --> 00:57:50.639
<v Speaker 6>day and it changed my whole day.

961
00:57:51.159 --> 00:57:55.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, just do do things. Acts of kindness are important

962
00:57:55.320 --> 00:57:59.360
<v Speaker 2>now because right now there's a there was a song

963
00:57:59.480 --> 00:58:04.519
<v Speaker 2>Goodbye True World, Bye Crew Worll. I'm off to join us,

964
00:58:05.159 --> 00:58:08.320
<v Speaker 2>go gonna be a brokenhearted coom. I remember that I

965
00:58:08.440 --> 00:58:10.880
<v Speaker 2>remember all these crazy songs because I grew up in

966
00:58:10.920 --> 00:58:13.360
<v Speaker 2>a house of music that played all these crazy songs.

967
00:58:13.760 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 2>But anyway, so we're gonna, we're gonna peace out right now,

968
00:58:18.599 --> 00:58:20.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'm gonna say thanks for joining us. For the

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00:58:20.880 --> 00:58:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Many Shades of Green. For more info and shows, go

970
00:58:23.199 --> 00:58:26.480
<v Speaker 2>to Hudson River Radio dot com, Malcolm Presents dot com

971
00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:29.159
<v Speaker 2>and the Many Shades of Green dot com. Send you

972
00:58:29.280 --> 00:58:32.360
<v Speaker 2>to send us your thoughts at TM Shades of Green

973
00:58:32.519 --> 00:58:36.480
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974
00:58:37.360 --> 00:58:39.440
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975
00:58:41.079 --> 00:58:44.480
<v Speaker 2>Please subscribe to our podcast on all major podcasts apps.

976
00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.119
<v Speaker 2>A shout out to Neil, who I cannot do any

977
00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:51.639
<v Speaker 2>of this without. Thank Thank you Neil. Also to Brian

978
00:58:51.760 --> 00:58:56.679
<v Speaker 2>and Malcolm for their help. Remember to pick malcome Malcolm.

979
00:58:57.199 --> 00:58:59.320
<v Speaker 2>Malcolm gives us the move he has all the movies

980
00:58:59.360 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 2>in the back of it.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

982
00:59:00.239 --> 00:59:03.480
<v Speaker 2>I love that he knows all these movies from from

983
00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:05.960
<v Speaker 2>He goes into his way back machine and brings them out.

984
00:59:06.079 --> 00:59:06.239
<v Speaker 3>You know.

985
00:59:06.559 --> 00:59:08.159
<v Speaker 4>Well that was the job that I had with the

986
00:59:09.280 --> 00:59:10.320
<v Speaker 4>screening old movies.

987
00:59:10.639 --> 00:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that.

988
00:59:11.679 --> 00:59:14.199
<v Speaker 4>That's My favorite is Casablanca.

989
00:59:15.559 --> 00:59:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Well now we know when I ask you what your

990
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:20.079
<v Speaker 2>favorite movie is, what the answer is going to be. Anyway,

991
00:59:20.480 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 2>So Picocheted Green, remember to Picocheted Green and raise your

992
00:59:23.920 --> 00:59:27.840
<v Speaker 2>eco and social consciousness Maxie Margot Rubin and we'll see

993
00:59:27.880 --> 00:59:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you again next time. Thanks.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Hudson River Radio dot com.